Raiders interested in Broncos coordinators; Saints OC in the mix — update
By Steve Corkran
Monday, January 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am in Oakland Raiders.
Note: Mike Triplett of the Times-Picayune, who covers the New Orleans Saints, reports that the Raiders were given permission by the Saints to interview offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr., but that Carmichael Jr. has not interviewed yet, as reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter earlier today.
The Raiders asked for, and received, permission to interview Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen, according to an ESPN report.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter also said that the Raiders interviewed New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. last Friday, soon after Carmichael arrived in the Bay Area for his team’s NFC Divisional Playoff game against the 49ers.
Carmichael Jr. presided over the league’s top-ranked offense this season, which has sent his stock soaring.
McCoy already has been contacted by the Jacksonville Jaguars and Miami Dolphins about their head coaching vacanies, with the Jaguars ultimately hiring Mike Mularkey to replace Jack Del Rio before McCoy interviewed.
McCoy flew to Miami today for his interview with the Dolphins. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers also are thought to be interested in speaking with McCoy at some point.
Broncos head coach John Fox said the amount of interest in his coordinators speaks volumes about his team’s success this season.
“It’s very complimentary to this organization that they’re having that opportunity and to their work,” Fox said in his season-ending news conference today. “That’s any assistant coach’s aspirations, to be a head coach. It speaks for what this organization has accomplished this season and time will tell.”
McCoy, 39, has become a hot commodity for his impressive work with quarterback Tim Tebow this season. McCoy was forced to shift from a traditional offense to an unconventional one midstream once Fox replaced Kyle Orton with Tebow.
McCoy succeeded in implementing a read-option scheme so that the Broncos could take advantage of Tebow’s unique skill set. People around the league took notice when the scheme worked and the Broncos soared from 2-5 to the AFC West title.
“He’s done a tremendous job,” Fox said of McCoy, in his season-ending news conference today. “As I mentioned even when I came here and hired Mike McCoy as the offensive coordinator, I knew him a lot better than you guys did, having coached with him for seven, eight years in Carolina. He’s definitely capable. He’s got those abilities. We’ll see how it goes.”
Allen made over a Broncos defense that was among the league’s worst in 2010 and jelled into a comprehensive unit, Sunday’s thrashing at the hands of the New England Patriots notwithstanding.
Allen, 39, also has garnered interest from other teams in need of a head coach this offseason. The St. Louis Rams spoke with Allen before they hired Jeff Fisher.
It’s conceivable that Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie is seeking to glean information into the inner workings of the Broncos by picking the minds of the guys who direct their offense and defense.
That’s a strategy used by the late Al Davis for years.
At some point, McKenzie is expected to turn his interest toward Green Bay Packers assistant head coach/linebackers coach Winston Moss.
Two people who have dealt with McKenzie over the years said the McKenzie said he would hire Moss as his head coach if he ever reached a position where he had the say to do so.
Well, McKenzie now is in that position. We’ll see whether he follows through on that intention or whether someone such as McCoy, Allen or another candidate sways him in another direction.
Dolphins interim coach Todd Bowles interviewed with McKenzie last week. He is the only other candidate known to have interviewed for the vacancy created by the firing of Hue Jackson six days ago.
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January 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I though the HC would have autonomy…
January 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
IF we don’t have the HC, then why are we talking to DCO’s and OCO’s???
January 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I don’t know what the world is coming to,….
January 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
My bad, should have read the article…
we are interviewing them as potential HC…
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
What’s up Thec? I think he wantsto interview those Denver coordinators for HC position, right? You mention Perry Fewell (SP?) yesterday…I say he did an impressive job turning that D around!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
This is just one of the many of those decisions. Not signing Jared Gaither is another. Not putting Jason Campbell on IR is another. And so on and on and on. Blame them not DMC. That guys is a warrior
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Has anyone touched on the medical staff situation?
Reggie have the power to replace them?
One would think, despite they’re being there for some time as I undersand, GM could do that. WOnder if he would have to get approval from Mark/Amy or shouldn’t that fall under ‘football operations’ like scouting?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Thec07 <——- Needs a 1 day ban for posting nonsense.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
What is funny is that I read that Spags may interview with Fisher to be his DC back in St Louis…has that ever happened before?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
What is funny is that I read that Spags may interview with Fisher to be his DC back in St Louis…has that ever happened before?
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Wow, would that be awkward.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
I wold think so, LA…or do the also perform medical duties for the admin and exec staff?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
This is just one of the many of those decisions. Not signing Jared Gaither
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This solidified the oline for the Disc…
He should have never got out of Oak…
Was one of the MAIN reasons we lost to the disc, as we got ZERO pressure on rivers like we did the game before…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Raiderbuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I agree but these contracts aren’t going to go away overnight. It will take years to recover from the overpaid players union. Even the great Reggie will need time to move them out of here.
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I give him one season.
All that was needed to make the Raiders a SB contender in 2012 was a legitimate DC to come up with better schemes and maximize the talent already on the roster. He fired Hue after one 8-8 injury-filled season.
Anything less than 12-4 or at least 10-6 with a deep playoff run is a total failure, in my opinion, and should cost Reggie his job.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hire Moss،
I hope Moss keeps Saunders as the OC.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Has Winston had a chance to mourn with the Packers and get on a plane yet?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
What’s up Thec? I think he wantsto interview those Denver coordinators for HC position, right? You mention Perry Fewell (SP?) yesterday…I say he did an impressive job turning that D around!
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What’s up Hwnrdr? Fewell would be a good choice however, I will trust the GM’s judgment.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:04 am
I’m not sure there’s any scheme that uses two 3-tech DTs on the inside, another 3-tech DT at LDE, and 3 SLBs.
The talent on the roster was a HUGE problem. The Raiders were a 9-7 team at best.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
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I give him one season.
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The ghost of Al returns.
Next…..
January 16th, 2012 at 11:04 am
After yesterday’s performance and being the only SB defending champion with 15 or more wins in the reg season to lose on their first playoff game…at home mind you…I wouldn’t waste my time with those assistants! My attitude could change later…maybe…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Thec,
I think it’s pretty fair to say that their was an interest in signing Gaither in Oak. You can’t ignore him not passing the physical. Especially knowing how our docs seem to clear anything.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:06 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:04 am
I’m not sure there’s any scheme that uses two 3-tech DTs on the inside, another 3-tech DT at LDE, and 3 SLBs.
The talent on the roster was a HUGE problem. The Raiders were a 9-7 team at best.
Which at least would have gotten us in…and possibly in this past Saturday’s game in NE!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:06 am
The next Head Coach of the Raiders will be:
1. Winston Moss
2. Dom Capers
3. Other GB assistant _________
4. Todd Bowles
5. Mike McCoy
6. Dennis Allen
7. Write in candidate __________
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January 16th, 2012 at 11:07 am
LA To TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:06 am
The next Head Coach of the Raiders will be:
1. Winston Moss
2. Dom Capers
3. Other GB assistant _________
4. Todd Bowles
5. Mike McCoy
6. Dennis Allen
7. Write in candidate __________
?????????????????
Rob Ryan? LOL…just kidding
January 16th, 2012 at 11:08 am
1. Winston Moss
2. Dom Capers
3. Other GB assistant _________
4. Todd Bowles
5. Mike McCoy
6. Dennis Allen
7. Write in candidate; Tim Tebow
January 16th, 2012 at 11:08 am
The talent on the roster was a HUGE problem. The Raiders were a 9-7 team at best.
Which at least would have gotten us in…and possibly in this past Saturday’s game in NE!
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Exactly.
We all knew changes needed to be made, particularly on D.
I would have settled for a qualified DC and a piece or two.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:09 am
I hope R McJenzie is doing the same as Al. I think the 2 assistants are one year wonders with no real resume.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:09 am
WINSTON MOSS!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I give him one season.
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come on man, you can’t be serious. If the Hue firing was wrong which I know you believe it was, then this would be wrong as well and two wrongs don’t make a right
January 16th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Al interviewed Moss before, but I can’t remember for what position.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Chucky should be interviewed
January 16th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Really, does Reggie need to interview Moss?
I think he’s doing due dilligence.
Maybe interviewing guys under pretense of HC but actually interviewing to pick brain/possible OC or DC.
If Bowles is a secondary coach, we can hire him with a promotion, correct?
I don’t know all the rules (and frequently break them anyway).
January 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Which at least would have gotten us in…and possibly in this past Saturday’s game in NE!
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Possibly, if the Raiders played to their potential. Too many players on this roster don’t feel the need to do anything of the sort on a regular basis. That’s another problem entirely, and one that McKenzie needs to fix immediately.
Either way, I don’t think the Raiders would have gotten past the Steelers with the talent on the roster right now. Total mismatch for them at this point.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Reg wants to get inside that read-option bs thats all
January 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Al interviewed Moss before, but I can’t remember for what position.
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HC, I believe.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Happy MLK day!
Being a day of equality and fairness.
Does Reggie have to interview a white head coaching candidate to satisfy the Rodney King rule?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Reggie’s gut has been talking to him.
Over…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
I though the HC would have autonomy…
2.Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
IF we don’t have the HC, then why are we talking to DCO’s and OCO’s???
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McKenzie is talking to these OCs & DCs about the head coaching position for the Raiders.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Didn’t Tebow come in for an interview prior to draft day?
I thought I read that he was in Oakland and they gave him scenarios and he aced it…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:17 am
#35
just silver & black ones
January 16th, 2012 at 11:19 am
similar to nyg raiders have Dline RB WR S and qb talent. Our oline and special teams are solid. Get me a corner an NT and coaches to get us playing to our potential. Oh and pretty funny how everyone rags on Sanjay but the Jets were quick to snatch him up
January 16th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Jacoby Ford also tweeted that he will miss coach Lal!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:21 am
LA,
That’s what I thought too, but I wasn’t sure.
Thx bro.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:21 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
I though the HC would have autonomy…
2.Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
IF we don’t have the HC, then why are we talking to DCO’s and OCO’s???
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McKenzie is talking to these OCs & DCs about the head coaching position for the Raiders.
Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
My bad, should have read the article…
we are interviewing them as potential HC…
I checked myself on that one. Should be ban from posting nonsense.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:22 am
La the rule is its only a promotion if your hired as a HC they count coordinator positions as a lateral move because your still an assistant coach. But Bowles is probably out anyway when Miami hired its new HC
January 16th, 2012 at 11:23 am
“Jacoby Ford also tweeted that he will miss coach Lal!”
He also tweets at 3Am the night before a game!
Tweeting is for 13 year old girls!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Maybe we can trade Jacoby to NY Jets than?
McKenzie WILL trade some player for a draft pick, and guys like Seymour, TK, Wimbley, Boss and others have little to no value.
If we are going to get a pick, we have to trade someone with some value.
I believe it will be Ford, but we shall see.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
If Reggie hires Joe philbin as hc.. you can bet were going after Matt Flynn as our qb… bye bye Carson… maybe moss as our d coordinator. .
January 16th, 2012 at 11:27 am
It’s a great coach-searching day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Should be prepping for a fockin’ Championship Playoff game.
Dom Capers?? As HC, thanks but no thanks. He had ONE remarkable season — his second as HC — and since then, he’s had a miserable W-L record. He’s not even an average HC…and his Defensive background smothers any Offensive philosophy (see: NYJ’s HC RRyan).
Capers was hired as HC in Houston because he had experience in all facets of the organization in Carolina. Houston needed that front-office experience, and saved a little money by getting it in their HC…good for organizational stability, but not for wins on game day.
The Raiders need a fresh face at the start of their new era. Capable and professional coaches are great to have. Great coaches are even better to have…and there’s a lot of talent out there to pick from.
If we can’t have a proven (winning) HC come in, I want to see a brand new HC come in, bringing with him a fresh energy…and an enthusiasm that can’t be ignored. Not a speech-maker…a real player motivator.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Whoever the next HC and DC is, I am 100% positive they will be colossal upgrades to our version of the Perfect Strangers last year at those spots.
Than we can roll up our sleeves and break down some draft and player personnel moves.
That’s were the semi-pro cream rises to the top.
I will see you up there.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
666.. tweeting is for 13 yr old girls. .LOL… especially at 3am.. someone should take jacoby fords man card away..LOL
January 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
“I believe it will be Ford, but we shall see.”
I think you are right on that.
I think it will be our first trade this off season.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I’m fine with this since Ford has as many foot injuries as DMAC but gets almost no scrutiny for it.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Maybe we can trade Jacoby to NY Jets than?
McKenzie WILL trade some player for a draft pick, and guys like Seymour, TK, Wimbley, Boss and others have little to no value.
If we are going to get a pick, we have to trade someone with some value.
I believe it will be Ford, but we shall see.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
How many of our other assistant/position coach’s are we at risk of loosing? Reggie is on record that if he was ever in a position to hire a HC, it would be Winston Moss. Don’t know that I agree, but if that is “his guy” then get it done.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
47. You have to wonder if Joe Philbin’s head is right to be taking on this job so soon.
My sister lost he daughter who was 19 and my sister has never been the same.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I would try and move Murphy or Schitlens first as they are both extreme dead weight but if had to be Ford and his Feet so be it.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I like JFORD, and DMO We are paying those 2 peanuts however, everyone on the current 53 man roster should be available for picks…
We need to do things like winning orgs do, and thats build thru the draft.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Keep Wylie!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I was in my weekly drunken Sunday night state, but did I see the Warriors won a road game last night?
Holy crap!!! Only get a handful of those a year, lol.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Chaz is a FA, so we can’t trade him.
We could look to trade Lou Murph, but it will be like a Kirk Morrison type deal, where we trade 5th and Murphy for a 4th.
Basically use him as a piece to move up 15-25 spots in the draft.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Thec if people were banned for posting nonsense this place would be pretty empty most of the time.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Like it was mentioned on here before…change is coming…and I believe that it will divide the Nation! But I also believe that it will work out in the end!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Starting with you.
Would you like to take this opportunity to say NYG’s defense is not winning them games?
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lefty12 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Thec if people were banned for posting nonsense this place would be pretty empty most of the time.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Lefty12 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Thec if people were banned for posting nonsense this place would be pretty empty most of the time.
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hhahahahaha…Whats good Left?
I put my foot in my mouth without thinking, or reading the post…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Like it was mentioned on here before…change is coming…and I believe that it will divide the Nation! But I also believe that it will work out in the end!
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Agreed…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Corkan,
YOU SUCK!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:37 am
You guys think we hire a HC by the end of this week?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Maybe we can trade Jacoby to NY Jets than?
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Didn’t the Jets give us a 2nd rd pick for Doug Jolley?
I laugh at the notion that there are not teams out there that will give us a #1 for McFadden or a decent pick for Ford.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I believe McKenzie will tell Wimbley and Boss to restructure or kick rocks.
McClain and Huff maybe as well.
On the flip side of things, which hasn’t been discussed in here yet, McKenzie will give some extensions to some players on the roster, outside of the FA’s (Branch, Bush, etc.)
Carlisle could get another year added to his deal, Veldheer could get some nice up front money he deserves, maybe McFadden will get a year added to his deal to spread out his 2011 salary.
Just some food for thought.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:38 am
it will divide the Nation! But I also believe that it will work out in the end!
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That reminds me, what’s with all this “Packer Nation,” “9er Nation,” “Steeler Nation” BS??
January 16th, 2012 at 11:39 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:37 am
You guys think we hire a HC by the end of this week?
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Yes.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:40 am
That reminds me, what’s with all this “Packer Nation,” “9er Nation,” “Steeler Nation” BS??
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All of those thing you mentioned in the last post do not exist…
No such thing as a packer nation steeler nation, or whiner nation…
Only 1 Nation exist…. everything else is make believe…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:40 am
LA To TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:38 am
it will divide the Nation! But I also believe that it will work out in the end!
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That reminds me, what’s with all this “Packer Nation,” “9er Nation,” “Steeler Nation” BS??
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! But we all know, there is only one Nation!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:40 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:37 am
You guys think we hire a HC by the end of this week?
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If he can get the interviews out of the way, hopefully.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:40 am
That reminds me, what’s with all this “Packer Nation,” “9er Nation,” “Steeler Nation” BS??
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All of those thing you mentioned in the last post do not exist…
No such thing as a packer nation steeler nation, or whiner nation…
Only 1 Nation exist…. everything else is make believe…
Beat me to it!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:42 am
No.
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LA to TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:39 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:37 am
You guys think we hire a HC by the end of this week?
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Yes.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:42 am
One thing I want to know is…wtf was up with every team waving towels around now! And I saw during the Niner game that the video screen showed…”Wave your towels”…WTF?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
What’s up Mista? You don’t think so? You think Reggie takes his time?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Carlisle could get another year added to his deal,
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
I for one hope we get a HC this week. Senior bowl is coming up. Would like to get these guys to work pronto.
We will have to wait until the GB assistant interviews happen. Would imagine we will hear something today that MOSS, and or Capers will be coming in this week.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:42 am
One thing I want to know is…wtf was up with every team waving towels around now! And I saw during the Niner game that the video screen showed…”Wave your towels”…WTF?
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Wipe off the quiche and wine.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:44 am
JFB,wasn’t it mentioned the Raiders have some sort of out clause in Wimbley’s contract.If so,we’d be wise to use it.Let Bush go.He could be replaced by someone making a 1/4 of what he will demand.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:44 am
maybe McFadden will get a year added to his deal to spread out his 2011 salary.
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I was thinking that was in the plans for Seymour, or else we’ll cut him before the 7.5 million dollar roaster bonus is due.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:44 am
I hope not to Capers…but in all reality…GB did have the #5 D last year…lost 2 guys and they dropped to last…so, is that coaching? Kinda the same like Indy. You mean to tell me that you lose ONE player and you lose your first 13 games?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:45 am
“Packer Nation,” “9er Nation,” “Steeler Nation” BS??
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This sht doesn’t even sound right…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Bo,
Keep Saunders, Wylie, and Rod.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Let Bush go.He could be replaced by someone making a 1/4 of what he will demand.
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The thought of franchising Bush and paying him 7 million a year is laughable when folks are complaining about paying D Mac 5 million.
Sign Marshawn Lynch for 4 million a year plus incentives, trade DMac, and let Bush go to Cleveland.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Jacoby Ford and DHB would probably have the same trade value. JFord because of what he’s proven he could do in multiple roles (in flashes), and DHB because he’s starting to live up to his potential. Murph wouldn’t carry near the value of those two.
DHB can’t go anywhere. DMoore and DHB are two pieces of a great WR corps to be. JFord can only be part of it if he stays on the field AND keeps his spark. Another DMoore-like find, to push JFord (and replace him when injured) is what we really need. Murph needs to rekindle his spark, too…otherwise, he’s just another average WR. Don’t need to load-up on average.
Schilens should be re-signed on the CHEAP, don’t wait…he can easily do what Hoosyermama did this year. No more slow, old WR’s…unless they’re home-grown and belong here!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I would be surprised if Reggie hires any not named Winston moss as our coaching… he should stop yanking on people chain and hire the dude already… if its moss. ..its moss…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:47 am
If so,we’d be wise to use it.Let Bush go.He could be replaced by someone making a 1/4 of what he will demand.
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Agreed…No way he gets a franchise tag either. If he wants to go and “be the man” go for it. No need to overspend on Bush.
we can get some rook, to tote the rock…Plenty of UDFA RB’s that were really good in college wont sniff the NFL…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I was thinking that was in the plans for Seymour, or else we’ll cut him before the 7.5 million dollar roaster bonus is due.
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Not sure if we have to pay him or what, but no matter what happens, Seymour counts $7.5 million towards the salary next year from what Corky says, even if we cut him.
That’s a lot of dead money.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Cooper C wasn’t the problem with our OL. It was Barnes, and satele is OK but we can use an upgrade.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:49 am
You guys think we hire a HC by the end of this week?
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College post season and draft stuff coming up.
Needs to be wrapped up by the weekend.
Unless there is a candidate from the so called final 4, what could possibly be the hold up?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:49 am
If I could keep someone on this coaching staff other than Saunders. .it would be Steve wisniewski.. he did a good job with our oline. .. cut Barnes though.. he sucks ass! !
January 16th, 2012 at 11:50 am
JFB,wasn’t it mentioned the Raiders have some sort of out clause in Wimbley’s contract.If so,we’d be wise to use it.
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From what Corky says, yes.
Not sure how it works, but I can’t see McKenzie paying Wimbley more than what Suggs will make next year.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Sign Marshawn Lynch for 4 million a year plus incentives, trade DMac, and let Bush go to Cleveland.
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I am not sure that Oakland is a good environment for him.
he would be susceptible to getting into issues…
I like the idea however, in the best interest of him, and the Raiders not a good idea…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:51 am
The only way Seymour goes anywhere is if he is traded and I doubt that will happen.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:53 am
I don’t think Seymour will be traded or released or restructured.
That is one problem McKenzie will probably just eat for 2012 and just let it go away after that.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:53 am
barnes sucks and satale is the weak link need to cut bait with those for sure
January 16th, 2012 at 11:53 am
We can’t afford to pay 2 RBs 6+ mil, and expect to fix all our problems.
I like Bush a lot, but I don’t think we will keep him.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:54 am
LA To TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:06 am
The next Head Coach of the Raiders will be:
1. Winston Moss
2. Dom Capers
3. Other GB assistant _________
4. Todd Bowles
5. Mike McCoy
6. Dennis Allen
7. Write in candidate __________
?????????????????
Kyle Shanahan
January 16th, 2012 at 11:54 am
banes <—–Drive killer extraordinaire…I almost hate this guy…
January 16th, 2012 at 11:54 am
DHB can’t go anywhere. DMoore and DHB are two pieces of a great WR corps to be. JFord can only be part of it if he stays on the field AND keeps his spark. Another DMoore-like find, to push JFord (and replace him when injured) is what we really need. Murph needs to rekindle his spark, too…otherwise, he’s just another average WR. Don’t need to load-up on average.
Schilens should be re-signed on the CHEAP, don’t wait
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Agreed.
No one is giving Chaz big money, if any money if FA. I can’t think of a better #5 or #6 WR we could have.
Murphy is a solid option to be our 4th WR. Agree with JFB on that one.
DHB and Moore are foundation.
Ford can be traded.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Apparently Huebris is still yapping to the media….per today’s article on CBS…
“No it wasn’t,” Jackson said, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. “I did coach and recruit Carson in college, I was with him in Cincinnati, I do know Mike Brown because I did work there so naturally everybody is going to say it was Hue that did it. Well no, Hue was the person when it was all said and done that was able to get the sides together. The decision was made as an organization. I don’t make a decision to give away draft picks, I didn’t make a decision on how much money someone was going to make. That’s not my domain. I don’t do that.
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Anytime anyone refers to himself in the 3rd person, BIG RED FLAG. Those people are usually full of sh$ttt.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Kiss these days good bye;
Scholarship Sundays.
Reaches in the Draft.
Professional Prospects.
Player Positional Switches.
Ridiculous contracts.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:56 am
NEVER BEEN A NFL HEADCOACH B4,BUT WHAT THE HELL..I CAN DELIGATE..1 THING 4 SURE WOULD HAPPEN,JOHN HERRERA WOULD SLEEP WITH THE FISH’S.WITH MR MCKENZIE’S OK OFCOURSE..
January 16th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Barnes is a FA I believe, so he is toast.
Remember, Green Bay is a hardcore ZBS team, so McKenzie may lean that way.
Just saying.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Cooper C wasn’t the problem with our OL. It was Barnes, and satele is OK but we can use an upgrade.
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Barnes was the biggest culprit on the Oline. I’d puke if we bring him back to start. Him and Routt prob accounted for 20% of our penalties.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:59 am
arnes was the biggest culprit on the Oline. I’d puke if we bring him back to start. Him and Routt prob accounted for 20% of our penalties.
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Like I said, I almost hate the guy…
I bet he has caused a many of busted TV sets…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
That is one problem McKenzie will probably just eat for 2012 and just let it go away after that.
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I’d like to see us try and restructure Seymour if we are moving to the 3-4. I think he can be a pretty good RDE for 3 or 4 more years in the 3-4.
15 million for one year is ridiculous.
Add 2 years and 7 million to the deal and it looks a lot better.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Ford can be traded
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Agreed…
We need picks, going to have to do some creative stunts however, I trust the org…
No more invisible forces at work…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
If so, we’d be wise to use it.Let Bush go.He could be replaced by someone making a 1/4 of what he will demand.
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Agreed…No way he gets a franchise tag either. If he wants to go and “be the man” go for it. No need to overspend on Bush.
we can get some rook, to tote the rock…Plenty of UDFA RB’s that were really good in college wont sniff the NFL…
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WTF are you guys talking about? There are plenty of rookie and/or UDFA RB’s that can do what MBush does?? Show me “plenty.” We thought (still do) that we have a DMC2.0 right here with Taiwan…and how’d that work for us this past season? It doesn’t work, if it doesn’t play!
Replacing good NFL RB’s is a tough thing to do…even though RB’s are “easier” to find. Being easier to plug right in and play is one thing…being able to play at a high level, for more than 2 games at a time, is a lot tougher to do.
I want DMC and MBush both on the team. But…if one has to go, and one has to be relied upon…I’d have a whole lot of trouble relying on DMC as the bedrock of my RB corps.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Kiss these days good bye;
Scholarship Sundays.
Reaches in the Draft.
Professional Prospects.
Player Positional Switches.
Ridiculous contracts.
Guys Half assing it game time.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Routt had 17 penalties.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I like Ford, and wouldn’t be upset if we didn’t trade him.
His value as a kick returner was greatly diminshed with the rules change though, and he has had a tiny issue with injuries, drops and fumbles.
And he looks like he wears eye-liner.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
There is absolutely ZERO change McKenzie panics and franchises Bush.
We should offer him 4 years 13 million and see what happens.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
108.Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:59 am
arnes was the biggest culprit on the Oline. I’d puke if we bring him back to start. Him and Routt prob accounted for 20% of our penalties.
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Like I said, I almost hate the guy…
I bet he has caused a many of busted TV sets…
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LOL…No TV’s yet, but a remote and some drywall repair….
January 16th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Barnes was the biggest culprit on the Oline.
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I know it seems that way.
But I’m pretty sure JFB has some stats on hand that will paint a different picture. He’s always pointing out Veldheer’s big time holding penalties. And those are the 10 yarders vs Barnes 5 yd false starts.
I happen to agree with you, by the way. I expect to see Barnes replaced if for no other reason he is a FA.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I like Ford a lot, he was a 3rd pick, he is cheap, he can return kicks, so I wouldn’t trade him. I also don’t think a team will offer more than a late 2nd-3rd.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
WTF are you guys talking about? There are plenty of rookie and/or UDFA RB’s that can do what MBush does??
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It is my belief that This is a good draft for RB’s.
It is also my beleif that we can find a guy that does what Bush does on the cheap.
If he walks I am ok with it. As I would imagine he will want to be a starter, and be paid as such…
We have TJ, and we can bring in another RB to spell DMAC and replace bush.
It would be interesting to see how it plays out however, you cannot pay 2 RB’s top dollar starting money…Both will not be in training camp 2012…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Remember, Green Bay is a hardcore ZBS team, so McKenzie may lean that way.
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Are they?
So you think McKenzie may be more Holmgren than Wolf?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Barnes and Veldheer both had 10 penalties last year.
Way too many.
But your LT is SUPPOSED to have the most penalties on the O-line, because he is blocking Julius Peppers and Jared Allen, while Barnes is picking up the blitzing safety.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
James Campen is the Packs O-line coach (from Sacramento as well) since 2007, who is a former NFL center and a strict ZBS guy.
Could be coming aboard.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
id rather see jared save cp ass from a blindside than see barnes move for no reason
January 16th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
McKenzie is going to interview a few white applicants just to satisfy the Ron Paul rule, then he’s expected to hire Winston Moss.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
LOL…No TV’s yet, but a remote and some drywall repair….
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watching this guy play means something is going to get destroyed…
We will be in the middle of a stellar drive when you get a the following;
False start offense number 69 5 yard penalty repeat first down…
Or
Holding number 69 offense 10 yard penalty repeat 3rd down…
then all hell breaks lose…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Today’s fun fact: The same people calling for Hue Jackson’s head will be calling for McKenzie’s head as soon as the team loses its second consecutive game!
January 16th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Did you guys noticed that both NO and Balt finished the game with 0 penalties…I don’t think I seen even a flag thrown their way…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
There are plenty of rookie and/or UDFA RB’s that can do what MBush does?? Show me “plenty.”
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Denver picked up McGahee off the scrap heap and he damn near led the league in rushing.
Did you see NE use Hernandez as their RB this weekend?
What round were Jacobs and Bradshaw drafted in?
Starks from GB?
Heck, I’ll take SFs backup RB for a million instead of paying Bush. That buy runs hard as heck.
I’m more interested in Wiz moving to C and who will be playing LG and RT next year.
Carlisle may in fact be back, JFB. We’re already changing C, LG, and RT.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
MR — We noticed your other troll attempts at race-baiting awhile back…and nobody bit. Keep flailing away, pathetic one.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
JHill knows.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
When you make fun of white people, it’s “race baiting”. When you make fun of black people, it’s “refreshing honesty”.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Hayes,
You mentioned you’d like to see an energetic fresh face come in as HC.
Who did you have in mind?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Hayes Daze is beyond racism, as long as the blacks are scoring touchdowns for his Raiders.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Move Wiz to C, sign B Grubbs, keep CC, and let Campbell and Barksdale compete for RT. I would also sign a FA to compete for with our young guys.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
HayesDaze, let’s recite MLK’s “dream” speech. You do the part about everyone getting along, I’ll do the part where he calls out the state of Alabama.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Today’s fun fact: The same people calling for Hue Jackson’s head will be calling for McKenzie’s head as soon as the team loses its second consecutive game!
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Do you think they’ll actually wait that long, or will the chants start the first time we fall behind in the second quarter?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I want Reggie to sign guys who take pride in their fundamentals–blocking, tackling.
In looking at Michael Bush, I have to ask myself: what, other than a primadonna attitude developed in JFL, junior high and high school football, fostered further in college, and ultimately accepted by his employers at the pro level, would make Michale Bush unable to block as well as players 60 pounds lighter than he and not as deft on their feet as he?
There is simply no excuse for his inability to block. There can be only one reason: “I am a running back; I should be the featured back.” Even then, even if he were the featured back, however, his logic would be faulty. Featured backs, good one, learn to keep opponents from walking right over them to the qb.
Let Bush go. He’s not worth the money, and he could get our quarterback killed. His poor blocking limits the plays the OC can call when he’s in there not as the runner, and defenses know that.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Haze Dayze is going to celebrate Dr. King’s birthday by watching highlights of black guys scoring touchdowns for the Raiders. He’s not concerned with any other accomplishments by black people.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
122.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
James Campen is the Packs O-line coach (from Sacramento as well) since 2007, who is a former NFL center and a strict ZBS guy.
Could be coming aboard.
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As what?
You really think GB is going to let McKenzie gut their staff?
Would Moss or Capers promote this guy to OC?
Would he even want to leave a SB contending team like GB to be our Oline coach?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RaiderDuck,
They’ll turn on McKenzie the minute he drafts a QB that isn’t a bomb thrower.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
By week 6, they’ll be calling McKenzie a “big mouth”, “river boat gambler”, “scoundrel”
January 16th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Harbaugh had a vision for the 49ers that wasn’t exactly in the 49ers tradition, he’s “just awesome”. “A genius”.
Hue Jackson had a vision for the Raiders that wasn’t exactly in the Raider tradition, he’s “a big mouth”, “A scoundrel”
January 16th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
for us to have any superbowl asperation we need a wall in front of cp
moving wiz to c improves the interior and guards are not as hard to come by and compition at rt would give us the best chance
agree with YA on our rb dilemma but keep in mind contract year for mcfadden could be his best year but would not resign (him a mil a year maybe)
January 16th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
J — Out of HUNDREDS of NFL players, you come up with a few…and a WR being used as one (he got hurt yesterday, btw…wonder how bad).
Point is…Bradshaw, Jacobs, et al, are all PROVEN players, and they don’t come cheap. They’re also hard to find…not as easy as you guys are making it out to be. Just getting Bradshaw and Jacobs to produce at the same time has been an issue from time to time.
Replacing 1200+ yard RB’s ain’t so easy…DMC is one, and MBush would’ve probably been one if he started all year. Taiwan couldn’t do that yet…he proved it already. There isn’t one player in the draft, from first to last drafted, who I would replace MBush with willingly. They may end up being great RB’s…but they haven’t proven a thing yet.
We need picks. I say re-sign MBush, and trade DMC for a 2nd this year and a conditional 2nd/3rd next year. Coach-up Taiwan, and replace DMC with another young RB with big-time potential. Replacing either MBush or DMC won’t be easy at all, and it’s time to decide.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Harbaugh had a vision for the 49ers that wasn’t exactly in the 49ers tradition, he’s “just awesome”. “A genius”.
Hue Jackson had a vision for the Raiders that wasn’t exactly in the Raider tradition, he’s “a big mouth”, “A scoundrel”
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To be fair, Hue shot his mouth off a lot more, made more questionable personnel moves, and had worse results.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
My prediction:
HC: W Moss
DC: D Perry
OC: Saunders.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Maybe we should hire SFs strength and conditioning coach…they’re players hardly had injuries this year…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
My prediction:
HC: W Moss
DC: D Perry
OC: Saunders.
I kinda hope not, but I could see that happening!
January 16th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Hayes,
I was just using the guys who played this past weekend or in the playoffs.
Our goal is to make it to the playoffs, so I thought it was a fair example to show that we can certainly advance in the playoffs with a FA like Lynch and a draft pick.
Mind you I think the potential of our passing game is the only thing that would afford us the luxury of that line of thinking.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Scratch Greg Williams. He went to the Lambs.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Hwnrdr,
Why not bro?
Saunders is one of the best OCs in the game, and Moss and Perry can fix our defense.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
J — Not sure…would like to know more about the candidates. If Winston Moss is the pick, I’m OK with it partially because he’s a fresh face — an unknown, outside certain circles — and I know there’s a ton of coaching talent out there.
That cheater Bill Belichik is/was an average HC…and then came Brady. The Raiders are ready to move up, and it’s the perfect time to do it with a brand new face. Bill Cowher’s probably not coming over.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If the new HC will have the ability to bring in his own staff, why is there some speculation that Saunders will be retained?
Does Saunders have any ties to any of these names mentioned?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
By week 6, they’ll be calling McKenzie a “big mouth”, “river boat gambler”, “scoundrel”
Do they allow coloreds on river boats? I thought they couldn’t swim
January 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Saunders to HC?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Im Shocked reading about Hue distancing himself from making the greatest trade in Football..I know its time to move on all, just Hue droping his nuts an things he defended at the time leaves me feeling far from sorry for the dude..
January 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
That cheater Bill Belichik is/was an average HC…and then came Brady.
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Ummm, I love the Raiders as much as the next guy but what a ridiculous statement.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If the new HC will have the ability to bring in his own staff, why is there some speculation that Saunders will be retained?
Does Saunders have any ties to any of these names mentioned?
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It’s not out of the question the incumbent OC would be retained, even with a new coach… especially if the new coach is a D guy.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If the new HC will have the ability to bring in his own staff, why is there some speculation that Saunders will be retained?
Does Saunders have any ties to any of these names mentioned?
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No, but they may not wish to upset something (our offense) that’s been running pretty well. Also, Saunders is very respected in the NFL.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
J — If I allow a hire to be made by a manager, I’m still allowing it to be made, ya dig? I’m sure Reggie McK is going to have a big say in who his HC hires onto staff.
I hope Saunders is well-though of enough by the new staff to stick around.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Don’t want Cowher or any other TV personality.
My only real concern is the new defensive philosophy.
Moss concerns me because it seems like his main qualification is he’s an Ex-Raider. Has he really been a serious candidate anywhere else?
Is Moss really better than Bowles or say Josh McDaniels?
Should Todd Haley get an interview?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Does Saunders have any ties to any of these names mentioned?
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I think Saunders’ reputation stands on its own. And if the HC is a defensive guy, he might want continuity on the defensive side.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Clements be the OC, though.
I wonder if the new GM and HC think Todd Haley would play nice here. The Raiders could use some discipline, and though Haley is a world-class a**hole he is a talented coordinator.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Duck, these things were said of Harbaugh and Jackson when both teams were playing well.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
LA — What was it that the cheater Belichik did before Tom Brady??
What did the cheater Belichik do without secretly taping other teams’ (including the Raiders?) pre-game practice sessions??
The answers? NOTHING. And…NOTHING. If not for Tom Brady, Belichick would be another coordinator.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I like what I’ve read about Bowles. Also the possibility of bringing in Nolan with Bowles is pretty intriguing.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
BTW, Duck, getting Carson Palmer when you’re left with Kyle Boller as your starting QB is not a “questionable” personnel move. It’s the only option.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Wouldn’t it be a shame if Wylie and Wisnewski were let go?? That O-line played really good all season long. A part of the team that seemed like the weakness turned out to be the strength.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Truth: Hue did more to uphold the Raiders’ winning tradition of the ’70s in this past season than Al Davis has done in the past 20 years.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
J — Winston Moss has the title of Asst Head Coach because he was under constant rumors to be hired-away from GB. He was given the title in large part thanks to Al Davis.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Well, Belichick was on his way to the playoffs with Bledsoe the year they won. Obviously, Brady has been tremendous for them but Bill continues to outsmart everyone most of the time.
They don’t win 11 to 14 games a year JUST because of Brady. BB also has a significant input on scouting, player acquisition, scheme, etc…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Now after all this talk about trading players let’s look at the other side. If you trade Ford, DMAC, DHB or any other productive young player for an unknown draft pick. And any of the above has a great career (See Charles Woodson) how does that make you look as a new GM especially a guy who is suppose to be able to evaluate talent.
I don’t see any productive players getting moved. But I do see some dead weight getting the ax.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Truth: Mark did more to uphold the Raiders’ winning tradition of the ’70s in this past season than Al Davis has done in the past 20 years.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Marios,
McKenzie already said that the head coach will be hiring his own staff. If Wisnewski is as valuable as you say he is, McKenzie can always put him on the market and see if it’s so. If nobody else wants him, why should our new HC?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
at was it that the cheater Belichik did before Tom Brady??
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Let him play in the shotgun.
Come up with an offense that features those TEs he drafted.
I think Belechick has certainly been a part of Brady’s success.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I don’t see any productive players getting moved. But I do see some dead weight getting the ax.
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Boom.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
To me having Boller would have pretty much been the same as Palmer. Still at home watching the playoffs and hoping for next year……just with draft picks to rebuild and a chance to resign Jason Campbell.
The “Best Trade in Football” will show if it can be justified next year. Nothing short of a Super Bowl appearance will do it for me.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I like what I’ve read about Bowles. Also the possibility of bringing in Nolan with Bowles is pretty intriguing.
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Was Bowles ever a DC?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Green Bays defense wasnt impresive at all, why considers their defensive coaches as our HC?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
In the past week alone, who has looked more like a big mouthed river boat gambler? Hue Jackson, or Mark Davis? Game.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I think Belechick has certainly been a part of Brady’s success.
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Exactly. BB offered Brady stability and brings in complementary pieces every year.
An organization that just finds a way to win even with retreads and undrafted guys.
Danny Woodhead??
January 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I don’t see any productive players getting moved. But I do see some dead weight getting the ax.
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Who would you consider to be dead weight?
January 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Baby Slash,
Losing for draft picks, huh? Hue had us within one game of the playoffs. And you’re saying losing out would have been better? The object of this game is to win the Super Bowl, in case you have forgotten.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I like what I’ve read about Bowles. Also the possibility of bringing in Nolan with Bowles is pretty intriguing.
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Was Bowles ever a DC?
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No, but he does have college head coaching experience, well respected and has already been sought after by other teams.
Specializes in secondary, which is a huge area of need. Former SB winning player at FS.
Knows Mckenzie, first guy to get an interview.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
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Sooooo you’d be happy to be drafting in the top 10 AGAIN this year?? F$ck Boller, we needed to make a move at QB and got the best available. He never played 1 down with the best player on our team, and you wanna pout around and say SB or Bust to “prove it was worth it to you?” Asinine statement. If you’ve only been a fan for a little while I understand your statement. But many in here are sick of 4-12 and THATS what we wouldve been without Palmer.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Raiders were the first wild card team to win a SB. And to think there’s actually Raider fans that think losing out for better draft picks beats missing the playoffs by a game. Unbelievable. Raider fans are something else.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I’d rather see Bowles as the HC and Nolan as the DC than the other way around.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
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Routt, Kelly, Huff, Barnes, Murphy. For starters.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I’d rather see Bowles as the HC and Nolan as the DC than the other way around.
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yezzir!
January 16th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Kelly’s been playing well.
Not sure why you guys wanna get rid of him.
Not his fault he’s asked to be one of two pass rushers in the middle of a 4-3
January 16th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Baby Slash,
Losing for draft picks, huh? Hue had us within one game of the playoffs. And you’re saying losing out would have been better? The object of this game is to win the Super Bowl, in case you have forgotten.
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Thank you!!! Too many people here dont understand that we had (basically) a playoff game the last game of the year THANKS to CP. We wouldve been done by thanksgiving without him. Sheeple.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
I think Belechick has certainly been a part of Brady’s success.
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trask wanted him as hc, i wonder how good her evalution skills have been in other instances…
January 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
this is the first move from mckenzie that i hate….cant bring no dungover crap to the silver and black….fool
January 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Say what you want about Routt and Kelly (Routt is a solid #2 CB, not an elite #1; Kelly is undisciplined, inconsistent, and a poor fit in a 4-3 when he has to play next to another 3-tech DT), but they contributed more than Darren McFadden did this season.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Thank you!!! Too many people here dont understand that we had (basically) a playoff game the last game of the year THANKS to CP. We wouldve been done by thanksgiving without him. Sheeple.
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And CP was lights out in that game as well.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Forrest Hump, a lot of Raider fans are so used to losing and getting high draft picks that’s what they look forward to every year. lol.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
No doubt Belichik is a good coach. But, what vaults him into the “great” category is Tom Brady, and the freedom that only winning allows successful coaches to have. Bledsoe was an excellent QB, too, btw. Put one of those QB’s in Oakland for a long period, and the Raiders would’ve been winning, too.
Belichik is a good coach. One of the greatest ever? Top-20…nowhere near #1. Some people (usually under 35 yrs-old, unless his name is Salisbury) have given him waaay too much credit. His legacy is stained by the cheating, and by the Tuck-rule game of NFL tricks.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Happy MLK Day Nation. And with the Ville game on ESPN, I’m gone as quick as I came…
Rack ‘em
January 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Not his fault he’s asked to be one of two pass rushers in the middle of a 4-3
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who do the giants start at NT? i know they often have a bunch of de types getting after the qb (osi, pp, tuck)
January 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
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Name me 1 time we have been top 10 in the league against the run with Kelly in the 8 years he’s been here. Take your time, I’ll wait. I dont care if he’s ASKED to get the QB. He can TAKE SOME INITIATIVE to stop the run and EARN the right to rush the passer. Dead weight, and wouldnt make it on another NFL team.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
olinesux Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
this is the first move from mckenzie that i hate….cant bring no dungover crap to the silver and black….fool
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This is dumb.
Willie Brown was from the Broncos.
Real organizations don’t think this way.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I could understand why this is a let down for a lot of Raider fans. This time of year, that high draft pick was something they had to look forward too. But that damn Hue Jackson nearly got them into the playoffs, so now they’re picking late.
January 16th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
FYI for those interested….
Prior to the SD final game, Veldheer had 10 penalties and Barnes had 10 penalties per a Jerry Mc article. Barnes was false starting though. So I’ll be jaded and blame it all on him.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Tom Brady, and the freedom that only winning allows successful coaches to have.
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pretty impressive what he did with Cassell and the man has 3 rings with the potential for another this year, hate the man but gotta give him his due
January 16th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
who do the giants start at NT? i know they often have a bunch of de types getting after the qb (osi, pp, tuck)
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Linval Joseph and Chris Canty are the 1-tech DTs on the Giants’ roster.
Tuck and Pierre-Paul do frequently shift inside on passing downs.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
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Exactly Sully. Bunch of madden players on this blog. Been watching dumb comments for years, but this year some of the idiocy is truly stunning.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Tuck Bowl game. Winner goes on to win the Super Bowl. One team kept their coach for another decade. The other one traded their coach just days later. You tell me who had more success the following decade.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
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Name me 1 time we have been top 10 in the league against the run with Kelly in the 8 years he’s been here. Take your time, I’ll wait. I dont care if he’s ASKED to get the QB. He can TAKE SOME INITIATIVE to stop the run and EARN the right to rush the passer. Dead weight, and wouldnt make it on another NFL team.
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that’s ridiculous he was #1 or #2 in qb pressures from a DT this year that’s a very valuable asset
January 16th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
that’s ridiculous he was #1 or #2 in qb pressures from a DT this year that’s a very valuable asset
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Yeah, because QB pressures tooooooooooootally tell the whole story.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
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Name me 1 time we have been top 10 in the league against the run with Kelly in the 8 years he’s been here. Take your time, I’ll wait. I dont care if he’s ASKED to get the QB. He can TAKE SOME INITIATIVE to stop the run and EARN the right to rush the passer. Dead weight, and wouldnt make it on another NFL team.
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that’s ridiculous he was #1 or #2 in qb pressures from a DT this year that’s a very valuable asset
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Every year he’s been here he gets pressure on the QB. We’ve also NEVER won more than 8 games with him on the roster, and consistently been in the bottom 3rd of the league against the run. Valuable my a$$. Stop the g@dd@mn run then rush the QB. He was an undrafted FA and only Al thought he was a player. He would be cut from any other team long ago.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
I’VE SEEN IT ALL!!!!!!
“he was #1 or #2 in qb pressures from a DT this year”
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! HA HA!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
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Exactly. How valuable are all those pressures if we never win more than 8 games and constantly get the ball ran down our throats. Cut or trade him, but get him the flock outta here!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
BTW, Duck, getting Carson Palmer when you’re left with Kyle Boller as your starting QB is not a “questionable” personnel move. It’s the only option.
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He definitely overpaid for Palmer, although he was kind of stuck.
I was thinking more of benching DHB without explanation then denying he’d been benched, not IRing J. Campbell, stuff like that.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Linval Joseph and Chris Canty are the 1-tech DTs on the Giants’ roster.
Tuck and Pierre-Paul do frequently shift inside on passing downs.
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we need to copy that model, i like kelly (pass rush) and seymour (pass rush and run support as a ut) but need an nt next to them and there are plenty in FA this year. I’m thinking Kelly is the most tradeable piece so Shaughnessey NT Seymour Houston next year if we go 4-3?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I know how much the homers here hate Warren Sapp, however, he said something so true that applies to this discussion about Kelly: “You’ve got to stop the run first, then you get to tape your ears back and chase the QB”
January 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Hey Hwn,
I think its too big of a decision to make this week. This move is going to define Reggie’s GM career. He better make a good choice and end the coaching carousel.
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hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
What’s up Mista? You don’t think so? You think Reggie takes his time?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
“So by rule, if Jennings’ calf was on the ground prior to the ball coming loose, he is down by contact. Contrary to what was suggested during the game, there is no need for the runner’s knee to be on the ground.”
That’s a not-so-subtle slap at FOX, whose broadcasters (including rules analyst and former NFL V.P. of officiating Mike Pereira) believed that Leavy had committed a pretty big blunder.
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More proof that Pereira is a complete tool. Can’t understand Fox’s obsession with this guy and why they want to bvring him in on the most marginal, trivial circumstances (he can’t even get those right!).
January 16th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
TK will have some value to 4-3 teams who need a 3-tech DT.
Since the Raiders currently have FOUR 3-tech DTs on the roster (Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Houston), I think they could spare one – especially one who is making $5 million next season.
He’d also be a questionable fit for a 3-4 system.
Trade him for a 3rd or 4th round pick.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
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Exactly. How valuable are all those pressures if we never win more than 8 games and constantly get the ball ran down our throats. Cut or trade him, but get him the flock outta here!!!
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we didn’t win alot with Nnamdi so is he not valuable? The 9ers didn’t win alot till this year with basically the same team so are they not valuable?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Fundamental rule for D linemen: Stopping the run is the true lumber. Gotta get that done first. Chasing the QB is having a beer after work. That’s the fun part. A D lineman that’s weak against the run but a good pass rusher is absolutely worthless vs. a team that can run the football.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
wasn’t kelly a pro bowl alternate? who votes on that?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Comparing Nnamdi to TK is so completely idiotic that I wont even bother dignifying that with a response.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Remember, the reason our previous GM, Al Davis, drafted all of these D linemen that can pass rush but can’t stop the run for crap, is because Al always thought our offense would score so many points that opposing offenses would have no choice but to throw the ball. lol. I’m not joking. This was our actual GM…in the National Football League.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Elway = Shanahan
Favre = Holmgren
Young = Seifert
Aikman = Johnson, Switzer
Brady = Belichik
Lots more examples. All capable NFL assistants…all successful NFL HC’s, thanks to their starting QB’s.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
wasn’t kelly a pro bowl alternate? who votes on that?\
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Tim Tebow was an alternate too. So whoever votes (fans get a 3rd) are maybe as clueless as you are.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
103.aig-raiders Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Apparently Huebris is still yapping to the media….per today’s article on CBS…
“No it wasn’t,” Jackson said, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. “I did coach and recruit Carson in college, I was with him in Cincinnati, I do know Mike Brown because I did work there so naturally everybody is going to say it was Hue that did it. Well no, Hue was the person when it was all said and done that was able to get the sides together. The decision was made as an organization. I don’t make a decision to give away draft picks, I didn’t make a decision on how much money someone was going to make. That’s not my domain. I don’t do that.
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Anytime anyone refers to himself in the 3rd person, BIG RED FLAG. Those people are usually full of sh$ttt.
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Then shame on Mark Davis for allowing his HC to make multi million dollar franchise changing moves.
What owner allows his coach do that?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Sully
According to YoungAmerican any team with any 3 scrubs off the street can run the ball. So any pass specialist on D is worthless.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Pro bowl is meaningless; see R Seymour
The players dont give 100% and nobody watches anymore.
lmao @ pro bowl
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inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
wasn’t kelly a pro bowl alternate? who votes on that?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
4-3 or 3-4, the Raiders’ needs are similar.
With a 4-3 they need a 1-tech DT who can stay in his gap and disrupt the running game. They also need a DE so they can more consistently bring 4-man pressure v.s. the pass, and seal the edge against the run. Then they can move Houston inside to his natural 3-tech DT position.
With a 3-4, they need a true 0-tech NT to anchor the line. They also need to find a playmaker to put at OLB on the blind side to make things happen behind the LOS.
And in either system, they need help in the secondary.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
KK Munster reading fortune cookies now. I guess cut & paste got old huh?
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KoolKell Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
LOL. THE PARTY JUST DOESN’T STOP…
Inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
wasn’t kelly a pro bowl alternate?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Remember, the reason our previous GM, Al Davis, drafted all of these D linemen that can pass rush but can’t stop the run for crap, is because Al always thought our offense would score so many points that opposing offenses would have no choice but to throw the ball. lol. I’m not joking. This was our actual GM…in the National Football League.
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Other teams use that model, MR.
Saints come to mind. Certain incarnations of Patriots D. Packers D. Indy.
Granted, they were coached better and had rosters filled better, but that philosophy is not unheard of at all.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
King concluded the February 1968 sermon by imagining his own funeral. Urging the congregation not to dwell on his life’s achievements, including his receipt of the Nobel Peace Prize, King asked to be remembered as one who ‘‘tried to give his life serving others’’ (King, ‘‘The Drum Major,’’ 185). He implored his congregation to remember his attempts to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and comfort prisoners. ‘‘Yes, if you want to say that I was a drum major, say that I was a drum major for justice,’’ King intoned. ‘‘Say that I was a drum major for peace. I was a drum major for righteousness. And all of the other shallow things will not matter’’ (King, ‘‘The Drum Major,’’ 185–186).
January 16th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
From 2003 to 2009 the Raiders were pretty much NFL alternates, so it makes sense some fans would brag on a pro bowl alternate.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Here were go. One of them just compared Al Davis’s defense to the Patriots…
January 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Here were go. One of them just compared Al Davis’s defense to the Patriots…
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Don’t be an @$$#0le, you know I did not.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
214.Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I know how much the homers here hate Warren Sapp, however, he said something so true that applies to this discussion about Kelly: “You’ve got to stop the run first, then you get to tape your ears back and chase the QB”
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Sapp is a douche, but he is also right in his criticism of our defense not doing the “gap discipline thing”.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
They always cut out the part of the I have a Dream speech that calls out Alabama, just before he talks of races getting along. Corporate media= cowards and liars.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”
– Martin Luther King, I Have a Dream Quote
January 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Alabama is still a racist state. Dr. King’s criticism still applies. That’s why they cut it out. Cowards.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
MLK = Code Black
January 16th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Anybody who even remotely compares Al Davis’s defense to that of Belichick’s patriots = Code Retard
January 16th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”
So why do we have affirmative action and things like the Rooney rule?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Anybody who even remotely compares Al Davis’s defense to that of Belichick’s patriots = Code Retard
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LOL.
Fair enough.
That’s what I get for thinking you’d read the post and take it seriously.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I suggested Capers about the same day as Reggie’s presser as DC not head coach before his name was mentioned here.
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You also said cut DHB, cut Seymour and cut Janikowsky. And you also supported Gingrich who has fallen so far off he is an irrelvant wack job. Just like you.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Mitt Romney celebrates Dr. King’s legacy today by hitting the campaign trail with a known white supremacist.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/16/on-the-day-remember-a-leader-of-peace-romney-campaigns-with-white-supremacist-video/
January 16th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Yeah, you better have been joking trying to make Al Davis’s defense seem modern.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Does a black GM have to interview a black candidate for head coach if he already has his sights on a white head coach?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Kiss these days good bye;
Scholarship Sundays.
Reaches in the Draft.
Professional Prospects.
Player Positional Switches.
Ridiculous contracts.
Guys Half assing it game time.
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10 penalties a game
Coaches with no real authority to instill discipline
4.3 corners with no feel for the game
Head cases
Seven step drops….
What else???
January 16th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Peymour Bish, I support anybody running against our socialist/marxist complete failure of a libtard pres.
Do you have a problem with that?
Take your left wing commie politics somewhere else, meatball.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Pro bowl is meaningless;
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No, your posts are meaningless. Look if any of us need advice on how to go dumpster diving to find some food that is only partially rancid, we will contact you. Other than that, eff off.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
al davis became predictable and his teams his philospy are still used but they are built upon as basis not as guidelines to build a team to
January 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Al Gores father?
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Mitt Romney celebrates Dr. King’s legacy today by hitting the campaign trail with a known white supremacist.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
No, just that the pass rushing defense built around an offense that scores lots of points is not unheard of at all.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Al davis never gets the credit he deserved for hiring minorities. .. especially from idiot haters like kk and sandusky44… you guys both 69 each other.. that’s all You’re good at. You hipocrites..
January 16th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I like JFORD, and DMO We are paying those 2 peanuts however, everyone on the current 53 man roster should be available for picks…
We need to do things like winning orgs do, and thats build thru the draft.
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Let me ask this, what would you trade guys like Ford and Moore for in terms of picks? Because if they were doing a re-draft of the 2010 and 2011 drafts those two would quite likely go in the 1st round of each draft.
So what sense would it make to trade those guys for anything less than first-round picks in 2012? Do you believe we would get 1st round picks for them? And what are the odds an unproven first round pick in 2012 turns out to be a better player than either of those guys — do you think it’d better or worse than a 50% chance they’d be any better? I would probably argue worse.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Like I said, anyone who even remotely compares Al’s defense to that of the Patriots is a retard. Kidding or not, really.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
(D) Senator Byrd ?
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Mitt Romney celebrates Dr. King’s legacy today by hitting the campaign trail with a known white supremacist.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
al davis became predictable and his teams his philospy are still used but they are built upon as basis not as guidelines to build a team to
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Yup.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Probably because Al Davis spent the last 20 years of his life treating black people like crap, Ghost.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
MB, Byrd and Gore’s father are irrelevant. Romney’s going to be the GOP presidential candidate this year.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
sorry to rain on your parade but the NY Giants run a very similar Defense to the on Al ran when he was here.
The difference is they have the horses to do it successfully.
So when we do it we are outdated old Al Davis scheme….but when the Giants do it its cutting edge!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
trade young stars for draft picks…
that hopefully become young stars?
The heck thec?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Like I said, anyone who even remotely compares Al’s defense to that of the Patriots is a retard. Kidding or not, really.
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Througout most of the season, wasn’t our defense better than the Patriots’ LOL?
There were other teams mentioned as well.
Not in design or personnel.
Just in philosophy. Indy did it for years. Primarily pass rushing, attacking defenses designed to disrupt QBs forced to throw because their down by a few scores.
That is all.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
The Giants over the last 8 years have been ALLOWED to learn how to play zone D so they can mix up their looks.
That’s the difference.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Probably because Al Davis spent the last 20 years of his life treating black people like crap, Ghost.
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Disagree. He made at least 2 dumb,black people richer than their wildest dreams. See: Kelly, Tommy and Russell, JaBolbus
January 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
At a time where white owners were letting their former black players buy shares of the franchise, like Dr. Buss allowed Magic Johnson to do in LA, Al Davis was treating black players and coaches like jerks and had no plans whatsoever on cutting them into general management or ownership. Al was a civil rights hero in the ’60s. By the ’90s, he was behind the corporate world in race relations.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
KK Munster, what do you think MLK would think of all your race baiting and nonsense you post here? He is prob rolling in his grave watching pres purp lips divide the country.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
246.Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Mitt Romney celebrates Dr. King’s legacy today by hitting the campaign trail with a known white supremacist.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/16/on-the-day-remember-a-leader-of-peace-romney-campaigns-with-white-supremacist-video/
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Romney has chosen this day to campaign with Kris Kobach, the author of Arizona’s and Alabama’s draconian immigration laws.
Before he became Kansas’ secretary of state, Kobach worked for Immigration Reform Law Institute, the legal branch of Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR
January 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
The Giant’s believe they can get pressure with their front 4 so they don’t blitz very often……sound familiar?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
You’re full of it Sully. . What coach or players that are black got treated differently than blacks.. you idiot.. give credit where credit is due.. you sh!t head..
January 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Except Indy valued the QB position (Manning) that would allow for points to be scored,
while Mr. Davis believed in reclamation projects (I found the next Plunkett! I did it! Me!) like Aaron Brooks, Daunte Culpepper, Kerry Collins, and Jason Campbell.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Guys, keep reading. It’s hilarious. One of them is comparing Al’s defense to Belichick’s. And he’s serious as a heart attack.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
I figured since you were talking white supremacist you were talking about those 2 Democrat KKK members is all.
My bad…
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
MB, Byrd and Gore’s father are irrelevant. Romney’s going to be the GOP presidential candidate this year.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
What impresses me the most about the Niners defense is how they tackle. I rarely see missed tackles from them.
They hit you hard and they wrap you up. They also cause turnovers real well. Best in the NFL in those two areas.
I’ll admit, I was a little envious watching their defense play. Secondary was good but not great. But then again, they were playing against Drew Brees…
Just give me a freaking sound defense and watch us steamroll through the AFC West!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
MLK day is probably irrelevant nowadays. I think it is time to end the holiday. It’s just an excuse for the post office and the teacher’s union to have a day off. What a bunch of lazy f8cks.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
MR, when I think of KKK supremacist I think of Gore & Byrd both Democrats. Who do you think of ?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Does a black GM have to interview a black candidate for head coach if he already has his sights on a white head coach?
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Yup. A few years back, the Lions got in mucho trouble with the league when Steve Mariucci became available and they immediately fired Marty Mornhinweg and hired him.
Even though they’d specifically fired Mornhinweg for the express purpose of bringing in Mooch, the Lions still got a big fat fine for not following the Rooney Rule.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Sully
In the 90’s Al made Amy Trask CEO. Way ahead of the curve in terms of MINORITY hiring. You cant make any case that Al was racist in any way at all.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
MLK would frown at the first black president, MB? He’s Martin Luther King Jr., not Uncle Tom.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Point taken!
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Hey Hwn,
I think its too big of a decision to make this week. This move is going to define Reggie’s GM career. He better make a good choice and end the coaching carousel.
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hwnrdr Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
What’s up Mista? You don’t think so? You think Reggie takes his time?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
It doesn’t matter if they mix zone in with man to man Alex the point is that they play the same kind of defense as we do and it WORKS!
All this talk about “Scheme” guess what…..if you cant tackle or shed blocks and you take bad angles and miss your gap assignment you will fail no matter what the “scheme” is.
Players that are more disciplined are actually care about playing football not gangster in the streets make tackles and do not take bad angles. They listen to the coach and they play hard.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I see the Raiders interviewed Saints offensive coordinator on Friday when he was in San Fran, according to Shefter.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Amy trask. . Tom Flores. . Art Shell… all three the first woman at her position in NFL.. Flores. First Latino coach in NFL… art shell. . First black coach.. NFL.. You’re hatred for davis keeps you from giving the old man anything because it goes against your disdain for him… you hipocrite..
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
“What impresses me the most about the Niners defense is how they tackle. I rarely see missed tackles from them.
They hit you hard and they wrap you up. They also cause turnovers real well. Best in the NFL in those two areas.
I’ll admit, I was a little envious watching their defense play. Secondary was good but not great. But then again, they were playing against Drew Brees…
Just give me a freaking sound defense and watch us steamroll through the AFC West!”
So guess what? with players that can tackle and hit the right gaps (well disciplined)they can play whatever “Scheme” they want to and it will work most of the time!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Under Al Davis, Raiders had no black people in limited partnership, no black executives, no black GM or personnel director of any kind. Not exactly at the forefront of race relations. Dr. Buss cut Magic Johnson in on ownership of one of the NBA’s most storied franchises. By the ’90s, Al was BEHIND the times on corporate race relations.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Yup. A few years back, the Lions got in mucho trouble with the league when Steve Mariucci became available and they immediately fired Marty Mornhinweg and hired him.
Even though they’d specifically fired Mornhinweg for the express purpose of bringing in Mooch, the Lions still got a big fat fine for not following the Rooney Rule.
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Was there GM black?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Raider Ray Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I see the Raiders interviewed Saints offensive coordinator on Friday when he was in San Fran, according to Shefter.
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Link?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
To me, these were the issues on defense this year:
- Bad schemes and/or players blowing their responsibilities. Think 250 pound LBs covering jitterbug WRs like Welker, Royal, Bess in the red zone. Or ends failing to hold contain against Tebow. Or receivers being left completely alone in zone coverage because two defenders both decided to cover the same guy.
- RoMac half-azzing it or attacking the wrong gap on running plays.
- Inconsistent effort including defenders failing to shed blocks.
- Lack of a consistent speed rush off the edge.
- Seymour being injured at playing at maybe 70% the last 11 games of the season.
I don’t think it requires a total overhaul unless you decide these guys don’t care and won’t respond to a new DC.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Yup. A few years back, the Lions got in mucho trouble with the league when Steve Mariucci became available and they immediately fired Marty Mornhinweg and hired him.
Even though they’d specifically fired Mornhinweg for the express purpose of bringing in Mooch, the Lions still got a big fat fine for not following the Rooney Rule.
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Was there GM black?
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Millen? No.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Reggie McKenzie is the Raiders’ first black front office executive, ever. Hired by Mark Davis, not Al. So, thanks you to Mark Davis for at least getting the Raiders up to par on modern day race relations. With Al, we were decades behind.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
MR, when I think of KKK supremacist I think of Gore & Byrd both Democrats. Who do you think of ?
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That isn’t really fair MB. In the 50s and early 60s, the Dems were southern and conservative. It was a result of the Civil War. The Republicans were more about free markets and pro-business without the social conservatism.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Forrest hump.. forget it bro.. he’s blinded by his hatred…it would be easy to say… yea I have to give al davis props for that.. he was good in that area.. but he wont!! Why? Because sully despises al davis more than he likes the raiders… pretty sad.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Raider Ray Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I see the Raiders interviewed Saints offensive coordinator on Friday when he was in San Fran, according to Shefter.
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Link?
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Shifter tweeted it.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
The Giant’s believe they can get pressure with their front 4 so they don’t blitz very often……sound familiar?
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The difference is the NYGiants GET pressure with their front four. The same was true with the Whiners. They at times would only send 4 and still get pressure. That didn’t happen much with us.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RaiderDuck
A Saints coordinator would have not been allowed to interview on Friday.
Ray is making it up, or the Raiders are going against NFL rules and interviewing people illegally, right before their biggest game of the season.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Tackling is a state of mind its a desire to bring another man down and bring him down hard to the ground.
Sure you can teach proper tackling techniques or how to wrap a guy up but the player has to “want” to bring another player down.
How many guys on our defense have that “desire” to bring a guy down hard….besides Curry?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
MB, you can bring up Gore’s father (his father? really?) and Senator Byrd all you want to. They’re not running for president on the GOP ticket this fall. Mitt Romney is.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Raiders interviewed Saints OC Pete Carmichael Jr. for their HC vacancy on Friday while New Orleans was in the Bay Area for Saturday’s game.
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January 16th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
OK, Ghost, name one single black front office executive or limited partner appointed by Al Davis. I’ll wait.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
If you don’t believe me Alex7, get your ass on twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter
January 16th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
What impresses me the most about the Niners defense is how they tackle. I rarely see missed tackles from them.
They hit you hard and they wrap you up. They also cause turnovers real well. Best in the NFL in those two areas.
I’ll admit, I was a little envious watching their defense play. Secondary was good but not great. But then again, they were playing against Drew Brees…
Just give me a freaking sound defense and watch us steamroll through the AFC West!
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Very good point.
I think the issues on D largely boil down to effort, discipline and decision making. What RM will have to figure out is who can be coached up and motivated to play with consistent effort and discipline and who can’t.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
“Seymour Bush Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
The Giant’s believe they can get pressure with their front 4 so they don’t blitz very often……sound familiar?
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The difference is the NYGiants GET pressure with their front four. The same was true with the Whiners. They at times would only send 4 and still get pressure. That didn’t happen much with us.”
Yes and I agree with you 100% my point was all this talk about Al Davis “scheme” is outdated is just plain ignorant. Guys need to execute, play hard and want to get to the QB not just pick up a check after playing paddy cake all day in the trenches!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
To me, these were the issues on defense this year:
- Bad schemes and/or players blowing their responsibilities. Think 250 pound LBs covering jitterbug WRs like Welker, Royal, Bess in the red zone. Or ends failing to hold contain against Tebow. Or receivers being left completely alone in zone coverage because two defenders both decided to cover the same guy.
- RoMac half-azzing it or attacking the wrong gap on running plays.
- Inconsistent effort including defenders failing to shed blocks.
- Lack of a consistent speed rush off the edge.
- Seymour being injured at playing at maybe 70% the last 11 games of the season.
I don’t think it requires a total overhaul unless you decide these guys don’t care and won’t respond to a new DC.
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Yes and no. The scheme wasn’t nearly as bad as everyone here thinks. Poor execution was. The issues were very bad LB play and as you say here absolutely no pass rush off the edge. Once the Dline wore down, it was over for us.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
I’m down with Saints OC as coach. Palmer can be just as good as Brees.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
“Very good point.
I think the issues on D largely boil down to effort, discipline and decision making. What RM will have to figure out is who can be coached up and motivated to play with consistent effort and discipline and who can’t.”
Yes I agree totally! good post!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
What impresses me the most about the Niners defense is how they tackle. I rarely see missed tackles from them.
They hit you hard and they wrap you up. They also cause turnovers real well. Best in the NFL in those two areas.
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That is Mike Nolan right there.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Yup. A few years back, the Lions got in mucho trouble with the league when Steve Mariucci became available and they immediately fired Marty Mornhinweg and hired him.
Even though they’d specifically fired Mornhinweg for the express purpose of bringing in Mooch, the Lions still got a big fat fine for not following the Rooney Rule.
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Was there GM black?
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Millen? No.
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So I wonder if the rule applies. If it does it just goes to show what a joke of a rule this is. I don’t think it opens up opportunities for minorities. If a black GM has to waste a minority coaches time to interview when the GM has his guy picked out. It is insulting to both men to have to follow this process.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
MR, its irrelevant who Romney is hanging out with. Just like when we found out 0hbhama was chillaxin with that proud terrorist Bill Ayers or that despicable racist Rev Wright.
The Amer people dont care, get over it.
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
MB, you can bring up Gore’s father (his father? really?) and Senator Byrd all you want to. They’re not running for president on the GOP ticket this fall. Mitt Romney is.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Sully. .. today is a whole different ballgame than it was 20,30, ,40 yrs ago… atleast admit davis was a pioneer in giving minorities an opportunity in the NFL.. when no other team bothered with minorities. .. things are a lot different now compared to 30-40 yrs ago.. don’t you know that??
January 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
What impresses me the most about the Niners defense is how they tackle. I rarely see missed tackles from them.
They hit you hard and they wrap you up. They also cause turnovers real well. Best in the NFL in those two areas.
I’ll admit, I was a little envious watching their defense play. Secondary was good but not great. But then again, they were playing against Drew Brees…
Just give me a freaking sound defense and watch us steamroll through the AFC West!
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Very good point.
I think the issues on D largely boil down to effort, discipline and decision making. What RM will have to figure out is who can be coached up and motivated to play with consistent effort and discipline and who can’t.
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Our D has lacked heart for years because we have no Ray Lewis style leader on that unit. No killer instinct like Hue said. We need someone to step up and demand perfection from the D. Needs to start with Reggie!!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Since they are bringing in some ex-Bronco’s I wonder if Rick Dennison in Houston might be worth a look.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
MR, google 0hbamas “close associates”.
Frightening stuff…
January 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
MR, its irrelevant who Romney is hanging out with.
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Haha!!!! You wish, dummy. This is a presidential election.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
MR, its irrelevant who Romney is hanging out with.
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What a moron. Tell that to Mayor Marion Barry of Washington DC.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Nope, keep trying Peymour Glenn eventually you will get something right.
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Since they are bringing in some ex-Bronco’s I wonder if Rick Dennison in Houston might be worth a look
January 16th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Tackling is a state of mind its a desire to bring another man down and bring him down hard to the ground.
Sure you can teach proper tackling techniques or how to wrap a guy up but the player has to “want” to bring another player down.
How many guys on our defense have that “desire” to bring a guy down hard….besides Curry?
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Yeah. Curry is really the one guy on this defense that I would consider superior at tackling. The 49ers are loaded with guys like that.
I think it’s something that can be mostly learned and instilled through the culture established by the HC, DC or whoever is leading the defense.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Pete_Carmichael,_Jr.
Carmichael could be an interesting choice. As good as Saunders is, we could definitely use some of the Saints’ offensive pyrotechnics…
January 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
MR, its irrelevant who Romney is hanging out with. Just like when we found out 0hbhama was chillaxin with that proud terrorist Bill Ayers or that despicable racist Rev Wright.
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Haha!!!! You wish, dummy. This is a presidential election.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Hmmmm…..interesting…so far McKenzie hasn’t interviewed any of the Packers personnel. Maybe this “hiring only from within the Packers” is a media thing. Either that or he does have his mind made up but wanted to glean some other data or look at some other point of views.
I guess the O-Coordinator who leads the #1 offense in the NFL does deserve to be looked at.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
MR, google 0hbamas “close associates”.
Frightening stuff…
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No worse than Bush or Cheney’s…
January 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
MR, what would MLK think of 0hbama sitting in Rev Wrights church for 20 yrs?
He is rolling in his grave, right ?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Wow some real ignorant backwards talk in here about potential KKK members.
I am neither Democrat or Republican I hate all forms of government in my life.
However common sense would tell you that Liberals defend civil liberties and Conservatives want to do away with them to help the war on drugs or stop abortion or whatever they are debating about this week.
Southern states are largely RED or conservative states that hold on to older ideals (Hence the word Conservative) I would bet a months salary that if you looked at potential KKK members there would be exponentially more in the Republican party than in the other party, hell common sense would tell you that…..must not be that common for some people in here from what I have been reading.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
MB’s in denial.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Wow. Another guy who hates “all forms of government”, who takes the freeways to work every day.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Hard cold facts. Something you haven’t acquainted yourself with SeyGlenn.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Wow some real ignorant backwards talk in here about potential KKK members.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I’m actually supprised Charmichael hasn’t garnered more interest. He has had the #1 offense in the NFL for 3 out of the last 4 years I think. Sure Brees is awesome, but that takes some creativity with the pieces to be #1 multiple times.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Rev Wright and MLK said a lot of the same things. But you wouldn’t know that MB because the only MLK quotes you know of are the bits and pieces of the “dream” speech heard on the news.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
MB’s in denial.
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No, Jamista is just plain stupid. There’s a difference.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Hmmmm…..interesting…so far McKenzie hasn’t interviewed any of the Packers personnel. Maybe this “hiring only from within the Packers” is a media thing. Either that or he does have his mind made up but wanted to glean some other data or look at some other point of views.
I guess the O-Coordinator who leads the #1 offense in the NFL does deserve to be looked at.
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Today is really the first day that would even be possible and even that is not practical considering they’re in Wisconsin and their season just ended less than 24 hours ago and could not have really made any plans to go to Oakland before that time.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
MB thinks the white cops who beat blacks in Alabama in the ’60s were “liberals”. ha ha. Just shows how dumb he is.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Wow. Another guy who hates “all forms of government”, who takes the freeways to work every day
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At least he has a job. Unlike all the occupy tards. Someone has to pay taxes to support the Libs.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I’m actually surprised Carmichael hasn’t garnered more interest. He has had the #1 offense in the NFL for 3 out of the last 4 years I think. Sure Brees is awesome, but that takes some creativity with the pieces to be #1 multiple times.
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The big concern is how much of the offense is Carmichael’s. You don’t want to end up like those teams who hired Mangini or Crennel, thinking they were getting some awesome defensive mind. Wrong.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Don, so there still are a lot of good jobs available?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
For those of you above arguing about Charmichael being interviewed while in town Friday getting ready for the 49ers game, it’s right in the ARTICLE above. Stupid to argue about the twitter or anything. It’s IN THE ARTICLE!
“ESPN’s Adam Schefter also said that the Raiders interviewed New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. last Friday, soon after Carmichael arrived in the Bay Area for his team’s NFC Divisional Playoff game against the 49ers.
Carmichael Jr. presided over the league’s top-ranked offense this season, which has sent his stock soaring.”
January 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Isnt any job a good job?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I have met Bill Ayers multiple times. He is a cool guy. He used to come into my work place.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I’m actually supprised Charmichael hasn’t garnered more interest. He has had the #1 offense in the NFL for 3 out of the last 4 years I think. Sure Brees is awesome, but that takes some creativity with the pieces to be #1 multiple times.
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I think because people attribute the creativity and offensive success to Sean Payton there. Being OC of the Saints is kind of like being DC of the Jets. You’re really not viewed as the true leader of that unit, the head coach is. So whatever success or failure comes on that side of the ball is going to the HC.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
MB thinks the white cops who beat blacks in Alabama in the ’60s were “liberals”. ha ha. Just shows how dumb he is.
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Whoah, don’t bring up cops or the army to Jamista Clown. Yer dag nabbig talkin socializm there.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
People kill me talking about that Carson Palmer trade and blaming it all on Hue. Mark Davis said himself that it was his move and he was the owner so he would have had to sign off on the deal anyway.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
How would you describe the job market right now, Don?
January 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
In the end I appreciate what Hue Jackson did for the Raiders. He failed to deliver on his promise to bring us to the playoffs, but I don’t doubt for a second his effort to bring us there. Thank you, Hue.
With that said, I believe Mark Davis’ decision to hire Reggie McKenzie, and give him full control of football operations, will produce in the 2012-2013 season an Oakland Raider football team unlike any Raider team we have seen before, for better or for worse.
Reggie, you have got my support.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
We have two types of people, tax payers and tax takers.
The Dem party represents tax takers.
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DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
At least he has a job. Unlike all the occupy tards. Someone has to pay taxes to support the Libs.
January 16th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Seymour,
MB was the guy at the tea party rally with the sign, “Government keep your hands off my medicare!” ha ha ha!!
January 16th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
“Seymour Bush Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
MB’s in denial.
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No, Jamista is just plain stupid. There’s a difference.”
I would have to agree with you on that, the guys is really ignorant he needs an education maybe the Republican party can get him a student loan to go back to school?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
The big concern is how much of the offense is Carmichael’s.
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That is a good concern. The answer would be hardly any. Carmicheal most likely is up in the booth giving Payton and Brees another set of eyes. Don’t know if that warrants a HC position.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Ty branch Is a Damn good tackler, mm34 needs to step up. DVD gets abused, huff has never been able to tackle. We need a safety a cb, 2 lb’s and 2 na.sty fat but but strong dts’s.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
MB’s just part of a long line of modern day Republicans who willfully ignore how much money the wealthy get from the government.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
The only thing anyone could ever bring up in the defense of our government is roads they built.
Yes the government has provided roads for us to drive on and as much taxes as some of pay, if that’s all they are giving me is roads I want a golden one!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Don, I’ll take your non-answer as an admission that the job market is not good. Fair enough? Unless you can chime in and say with confidence that the job market is good right now. Still waiting.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
The Dem party represents tax takers.
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whatabout George W’s bailout? or what about his daddy when after saying “read my lips” increased taxes? Some of you guys are just too dumb like the guys screaming Kelly sucks we should trade him! Umm if he sucks so bad how are we supposed to trade him?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
666, do you use those government roads? If you’re anti-government, back it up and use dirt roads only. Until you do that you’re just a babbling hypocrite.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/16899912
15 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Report: Raiders interviewed Saints offensive coordinator
The Raiders interviewed New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. on Friday for their head coaching job, ESPN is reporting. New GM Reggie McKenzie also interviewed Dolphins interim head coach Todd Bowles last week and plans to interview Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and defensive coordinator Dennis Allen.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
I just said it is bad.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
“MB’s just part of a long line of modern day Republicans who willfully ignore how much money the wealthy get from the government.”
The 10 poorest states in the USA are all Red states, all 10 of them!
So yes just because someone is uneducated, poor and is asking for a hand out does not mean they vote Democrat. A good percentage of people on the dole like Brownstains are in fact republican voters!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
At least if Reggie DOES end hiring Moss, we can be confident that he talked to a number of people and still decided Moss was the best man for the job.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Well then you admit, Don, there aren’t that many jobs available. So just where are the occupy protesters supposed to get these jobs you speak of? You just said the job market’s bad. That means some people are going to be jobless, no matter how hard they search. Right?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Plunketthead Says:
Who knows? Al is gone and the Oakland Raiders have now become just like the other 31 other teams.
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Some folks in Dallas would disagree with that. LOL
They’re calling Jerry Jones an Al Davis who wears Armani suits instead of jumpsuits. He is the owner and GM of the team.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Ty branch Is a Damn good tackler, mm34 needs to step up. DVD gets abused, huff has never been able to tackle. We need a safety a cb, 2 lb’s and 2 na.sty fat but but strong dts’s.
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Branch is a very good player. The 2ndary is actually pretty decent. Seymour, Kelly, Howard did well. What we need is a new LB corp and a DE or OLB that can rush the passer ala Aldon Smith,Suggs or Andre Carter. Not having that guy KILLED us. And with no lst or 2nd rounder, it doesn’t look like we will be drafting one. THAT is a BIG problem for us.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
At least if Reggie DOES end hiring Moss, we can be confident that he talked to a number of people and still decided Moss was the best man for the job.
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good point. also what makes me comfortable with the Reggie hire is the most important thing in any sport is personell
January 16th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
“666, do you use those government roads? If you’re anti-government, back it up and use dirt roads only. Until you do that you’re just a babbling hypocrite.”
bad analogy you are using there sully!
I was born in Santa Clara and have lived here all of my life paid state taxes and also as a home owner here in this county for over 20 years. So if anyone has a right to use these roads in Santa Clara County its me not some illegal immigrant sucking off the system or some part time blogger who moved here from the East Coast.
Try again!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
severeraiderz Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
People kill me talking about that Carson Palmer trade and blaming it all on Hue. Mark Davis said himself that it was his move and he was the owner so he would have had to sign off on the deal anyway.
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I dont think the point is Mark. The point is Huebris is trying to distance himself from that trade. He was the mastermind of that trade and then tried to distance himself from it. He told Peter King he was calling Mike Brown at 3 am in the morning. Imagine being the architect that drew up the plans for a new skyscraper and then tried to say that he wasnt responsible for that building being built.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
You guys see what Don just did? He said the occupy protesters need to get jobs, then he admitted the job market is bad. He admitted there aren’t that many jobs. This is the idiocy we’re dealing with.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Plunketthead Says:
Who knows? Al is gone and the Oakland Raiders have now become just like the other 31 other teams.
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And the problem with that is…?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Sully,
I said it is bad. But there are jobs out there. Most people I know on unemployment and Welfare don’t want to take these jobs. Because it’s not as easy as the job they had before or they are lazy and on the Gov dime.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
I get that half of the country will always vote Republican. I just have never found anyone who could explain to me why. – Bill Maher
January 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
watching the texans 9ers and ravens it’s evident our secondary excluding Branch and Routt needs to be more physical at the line and needs to make plays on the ball. Our dline needs to maintain gap responsibility and every player on d is responsible for stopping that run that includes DVD and Huff. Our lb’s are not even close to being top level
January 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
MR, you are so smart yet you cant discern the difference between basic things govt should provide and govt fat & bloated and over reaching? Go read the constitution or have someone with brains interpret for you…
Maybe you should start at 1st grade and work your way up?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hey Sully. Do you have a job?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
Plunketthead Says:
Who knows? Al is gone and the Oakland Raiders have now become just like the other 31 other teams.
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And the problem with that is…?
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In fairness to Plunketthead, I only copied part of his statement. I don’t think he was saying that like it was a bad thing.
I was only pointing out that the Raiders are now like 30 other teams. There’s still an NFL team that will continue to be dysfunctional – the Cowboys.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Al davis never gets the credit he deserved for hiring minorities. .. especially from idiot haters like kk and sandusky44… you guys both 69 each other.. that’s all You’re good at. You hipocrites..
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hipocrites???????What a dumbass idiot. Lol.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
lmao
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DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hey Sully. Do you have a job?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
I also believe that we interviewed the Bronco’s OC to get a handle on the read option for possible use by Terrell Pryor in the future.
I also would like to add Bowles as our HC
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Reports have leaked that Herrera has been seen changing the lettering on the HC office door. The first name starts with a W.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RaidingTexas – 1OAKLANDRAIDERS1 Champion Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I was only pointing out that the Raiders are now like 30 other teams. There’s still an NFL team that will continue to be dysfunctional – the Cowboys.
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And the Redskins, next time Snyder decides to stick his nose in the operation again.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hey Sully. Do you have a job?
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Don’t know that you can call it a “job” but for 5 bucks, MR will give you the happiest ending you could ever dream of (so I guess it’s a “job” some kind ;D), then ruin it by ranting about Al Davis for an hour.
Discounts available for family members (only immediate family need apply).
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
MistaBrown Says:
Go read the constitution or have someone with brains interpret for you…
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The Constitution is amendable. Shall I read the 16th aloud to you?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
morilla Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Reports have leaked that Herrera has been seen changing the lettering on the HC office door. The first name starts with a W.
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Link, or it’s BS.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
watching the texans 9ers and ravens it’s evident our secondary excluding Branch and Routt needs to be more physical at the line and needs to make plays on the ball.
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Compare those three teams on a DE OLB pass rushing basis to us. Right there you will see what the problem is. One of the lst rules of defensive coaching is your pass rush is only as good as your secondary and your secondary is only as good as our pass rush. Our outside pass rush was not very good.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
No secret that I want Rob Chudzinski for Head Coach and Winston Moss as DC then keep Saunders in place as OC so the offense can keep some momentum moving into next year.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
LA
LOL! He didn’t answer me. He must be out trading his food stamps for beer and cigarettes.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
hipocrites???????What a dumbass idiot. Lol.
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Maybe he was referring to Hippocrates – saying you guys need medical help! lol
January 16th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
“Our outside pass rush was not very good.”
It sure was a lot better when Matt Shaughnessy was in there!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Our outside pass rush was not very good.
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Wimbley was top tier pressures wise does having him with a healthy Shaughnessey solve this problem? Didn’t we have the most sacks from the dline in the league last year?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Nobody said it wasn’t amendable. Way to follow along retard.
Our current WH occupier has been circumventing and sh!tting on the constitution since the day he took office though.
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RaidingTexas – 1OAKLANDRAIDERS1 Champion Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
MistaBrown Says:
Go read the constitution or have someone with brains interpret for you…
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The Constitution is amendable. Shall I read the 16th aloud to you?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Maybe he was referring to Hippocrates – saying you guys need medical help! lol
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Lol, I doubt it.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
La
I see he switched handles over to RaidingTexas.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Yes read it out loud to me over the internet you FK’ng meatball. Dems want nothing more than to amend and piss on the constitution.
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RaidingTexas – 1OAKLANDRAIDERS1 Champion Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Shall I read the 16th aloud to you?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Sully,
I said it is bad. But there are jobs out there. Most people I know on unemployment and Welfare don’t want to take these jobs. Because it’s not as easy as the job they had before or they are lazy and on the Gov dime.
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I don’t think there are many Occupy protesters on welfare.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Nobody said it wasn’t amendable. Way to follow along retard.
Our current WH occupier has been circumventing and sh!tting on the constitution since the day he took office though.
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Republicans started the sh!tting after 9-11. Its called The Patriot Act. Maybe you’ve heard of it??
January 16th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Dems want nothing more than to amend and piss on the constitution.
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Really BrownStains?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Albert Says:
I don’t think there are many Occupy protesters on welfare.
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They’re mostly trustafarians. They’re on mommy’s and daddy’s welfare.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
morilla Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Reports have leaked that Herrera has been seen changing the lettering on the HC office door. The first name starts with a W.
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Link, or it’s BS.
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There have been reports that Herrera has been seen cleaning toilets at Raider headquarters.
BTW, I wonder if Reggie has moved into Al’s office. That would be weird if he has.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RaidingTexas – 1OAKLANDRAIDERS1 Champion Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
MistaBrown Says:
Go read the constitution or have someone with brains interpret for you…
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The Constitution is amendable. Shall I read the 16th aloud to you?
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Funny how that amendment would be ratified just as we were handing the coinage of OUR money to private banksters. The federal reserve.
Pffft.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
AIG
False. There is a huge difference between masterminding the deal and bringing the parties to the table to negotiate. He knew Mike Brown personally and was probably one of the few guys that could get him on the phone. Mark Davis took credit for the deal, instead of using it as the perfect opportunity to justify firing the coach that took ur offense out of the stone ages and got valuable production out of two former 1st round picks previously labeled as busts. He had no reason to take credit for the controversial deal and he did. That speaks volumes to me.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I’d go join the Occupy Protesters, but I have to go work so I can make rent
January 16th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Nobody said it wasn’t amendable. Way to follow along retard.
Our current WH occupier has been circumventing and sh!tting on the constitution since the day he took office though.
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guess you prefer a war for wmd’s that weren’t there, Bin Laden alive, home loans to people who don’t qualify, bailouts allowing for golden parachutes, over ending the war in Iraq and the unemployment level being the lowest in 3 years?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Points for in one word
January 16th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
“Nobody said it wasn’t amendable. Way to follow along retard.
Our current WH occupier has been circumventing and sh!tting on the constitution since the day he took office though.
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Wow again very ignorant post.
In the 1980’s the police could not search your car or your house without a search warrant because of our 4th amendment rights.
Ronald Reagan and Judge Rehnquist, because of the war on drugs, removed those rights from us. Now a police officer only needs to think in his own head that there is a reason to search your car or your house and they can do it.
Reagan robbed us of a very important civil liberty just to fight his losing war on drugs.
You want to talk about politicians taking the constitution and wiping their ass with it well there is a perfect example of just that!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
points for 666
January 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Raiderbuck
You think you could stand to bang some skanky smelly chick that hasn’t showered in days?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Republicans = welfare for the rich. Too big too fail banks and too small to matter people. But lets get back to football.
CUT Tommy Kelly 1st!!! Bad Attitude and worse performance!!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Raiderbuck
You think you could stand to bang some skanky smelly chick that hasn’t showered in days?
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haha what’s funny is i went to check out the protests a few times and i was still in “creep mode”, hitting on the occupiers
January 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Raiderbuck
You think you could stand to bang some skanky smelly chick that hasn’t showered in days?
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Why, is your sister available??? (hahahaha just kidding, had to)
January 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Raiderbuck
You think you could stand to bang some skanky smelly chick that hasn’t showered in days?
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You mean a trailer park skank?
January 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:40 am
That reminds me, what’s with all this “Packer Nation,” “9er Nation,” “Steeler Nation” BS??
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All of those thing you mentioned in the last post do not exist…
No such thing as a packer nation steeler nation, or whiner nation…
Only 1 Nation exist…. everything else is make believe…
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yes indeed 07
January 16th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Debtors prison is unconstitutional but every day out of work fathers that cannot make their child support payments are arrested and locked up for not having any money.
I am not talking about dead beat dads that avoid paying child support I am talking about hard working people that are out of work right now and cant find work.
I have 100’s of these unconstitutional acts taken on by government every day!
Don’t get me started!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
“Nobody said it wasn’t amendable. Way to follow along retard.
Our current WH occupier has been circumventing and sh!tting on the constitution since the day he took office though.
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Wow again very ignorant post.
In the 1980’s the police could not search your car or your house without a search warrant because of our 4th amendment rights.
Ronald Reagan and Judge Rehnquist, because of the war on drugs, removed those rights from us. Now a police officer only needs to think in his own head that there is a reason to search your car or your house and they can do it.
Reagan robbed us of a very important civil liberty just to fight his losing war on drugs.
You want to talk about politicians taking the constitution and wiping their ass with it well there is a perfect example of just that!
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BS.
A search warrant for a house, demonstating/proving probable cause, same for an officer with a vehicle stop.
The “eyes can not trespass.” So if a cop looks in your car and see’s an open container, he has probable cause.
If he suspects something is amiss and can’t prove probable cause, he will ask for permission to search.
It’s within your rights to refuse such request. And then let the chips fall were they may.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Our outside pass rush was not very good.
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Wimbley was top tier pressures wise does having him with a healthy Shaughnessey solve this problem? Didn’t we have the most sacks from the dline in the league last year?
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You cannot have enough good pass rushers. We didn’t lead the league in 2010 but we were awfully close. And that was probably one of the main reasons why our defense played better last year than this year. LB and outside pass rush is probably our biggest area of need.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
380.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
No secret that I want Rob Chudzinski for Head Coach and Winston Moss as DC then keep Saunders in place as OC so the offense can keep some momentum moving into next year.
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I was hoping that Reggie would interview Chris Peterson from Boise St. Oh well, sounds like he just renewed his contract for the next 5 years.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I don’t agree with Forest position. But I do agree with this. This is a football blog and sorry for getting of course.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
McKenzie better know what he is doing. I have four season tickets and if we regress this year, I am done wasting my money watching this nonsense. If you can’t go and get a credible head coach Hue Jack should be the man in charge. Regardless of his mistakes as a rookie head coach mismanaging situations, he was a breath oif frsh air into our organization. Two years in a row we finished with a top 10 offense. He wasnt the problem, AL was. I would have like to see Hue back with a staff he assembled. We are sniffing the playoffs for a change and if McKenzie crushes this little momentum we have, I officially will stop spending my hard erned money supporting mediocre football at best. As a fan, all I ask for is competency…..
January 16th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
353.RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/16899912
15 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Report: Raiders interviewed Saints offensive coordinator
The Raiders interviewed New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. on Friday for their head coaching job, ESPN is reporting. New GM Reggie McKenzie also interviewed Dolphins interim head coach Todd Bowles last week and plans to interview Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and defensive coordinator Dennis Allen.
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I want Alex7 to come in here and admit he’s full of sh*t.
He knows why, and so does everyone else that’s had to read his whiny drivel over the past few days.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Who said I was in favor with the Patriot act?
See the problem with you libtards is you are ok with purp lips sh!tting on the constitution but when Bush did it you get your panties in a knot. Im not in favor of it regardless.
It’s called “hypocrisy”.
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Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Republicans started the sh!tting after 9-11. Its called The Patriot Act. Maybe you’ve heard of it??
January 16th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
2010 season the Raiders were tied for 1st with # of sacks. I forget who with though.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Looks like Jamista Clown is getting thumped in here AGAIN. As usual. Very good. Carry on.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
2010 season the Raiders were tied for 1st with # of sacks. I forget who with though.
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Actually Pitt was l. We were tied with SD and someone else for 2.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Forrest, see what happens when you “assume” things?
Now go sit in the corner and lick yourself.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Wait, somebody explain to me how we can interview Saints OC before a game but not Packers coaches.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
jmeds Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
McKenzie better know what he is doing. I have four season tickets and if we regress this year, I am done wasting my money watching this nonsense. If you can’t go and get a credible head coach Hue Jack should be the man in charge.
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If you want a copy of the last game of the season against SD call me. you will see a team that is completely disorganized, can’t get plays in, waste timeouts, have delay of game penalites, can’t manage the clock in crucial situations. Jackson is not HC material. Sorry.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
“BS.
A search warrant for a house, demonstating/proving probable cause, same for an officer with a vehicle stop.
The “eyes can not trespass.” So if a cop looks in your car and see’s an open container, he has probable cause.
If he suspects something is amiss and can’t prove probable cause, he will ask for permission to search.
It’s within your rights to refuse such request. And then let the chips fall were they may.”
What are you a judge or some kind of ass holish cop?
You are wrong, all a law enforcement official needs is to suspect something is wrong……think about that for a minute…if they just “Think” something is wrong they have to right to search you and your property without a warrant!
I could walk by anyone’s house and “Think” something is wrong get real!
When the DEA comes smashing in your door and destroys your property because someone “thinks” there is something wrong its called “we have no civil liberties they are gone”
This whole idea that law enforcement needs this right to help them catch drug dealers is because they are to lazy to do their jobs!
If you are going to defend the government in taking away civil liberties why not just turn into a George Orwell 1984 society right now!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
By entertaining the possibility of interviewing the Donks coordinators (particurlarly on offense) one of two things are possible’
The Raiders new management team are embracing Terrell Pryor as a future QB/special package guy or said staff still has Al’s fingerprints on the methodology. . .and the donks “D” sure executed a turnaround. . .but methinks this is for picking of minds or comparative analysis with the incoming Packer coaches. . .
January 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
CUT Tommy Kelly 1st!!! Bad Attitude and worse performance!!
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was part of the #3 d in the league during Sapp days. elite pass rusher for the dt position. Was VERY good versus the run at the DE position, check the tackle #’s if you don’t remember. With the right coach/scheme could have a beast on your hands. that being said if Seymour is untradeable because of his contract and kelly isn’t although I’d prefer the younger kelly, if it means being able to afford getting an NT by trading him, do it
January 16th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Forrest, see what happens when you “assume” things?
Now go sit in the corner and lick yourself.
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Mista, maybe that kind of Keyboard Commando-ism works against other people here, but your cute little commands mean d!ck to me. If you want to have a conversation where we share ideas and I show you how stupid you are we can do that. If you wanna be an internet tough guy then go back to punching the clown and telling yourself your opinion matters.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Bottom line is Reagan and Judge Rehnquist screwed us and wiped their ass with the constitution no matter how you want to SPIN it!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Wait, somebody explain to me how we can interview Saints OC before a game but not Packers coaches.
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It’s a matter of what each organization allows.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
424
Despite your love affair with TK, he sucks. And what year were we # 3 in the league?? The year we were 2-14 and teams just ate up the clock by running the ball on us all day?? That year?? Yeah, boy was that successful. Again I say, we’ve never won more than 8 games in a season with this undiscilpined bag of sh!t on our line. I’m glad you love mediocrity. I want championships.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I HAVE ABANDONED GOODOLE00 AS MY MONIKER ON HERE. SO IF YOU SEE NEGATIVE POSTS YOU’LL KNOW IT AIN’T ME.
I’LL BE POSTING AS FORMERLYGOODOLE00. NO WAY THIS BAST*RD GUESS THIS PASSWORD…
SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION
January 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Well I hope Mongo and Dorothy Hamill get something done soon. We need something new to argue about.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Well I hope Mongo and Dorothy Hamill get something done soon. We need something new to argue about.
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pathetic dick wad
January 16th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
424
Despite your love affair with TK, he sucks. And what year were we # 3 in the league?? The year we were 2-14 and teams just ate up the clock by running the ball on us all day?? That year?? Yeah, boy was that successful. Again I say, we’ve never won more than 8 games in a season with this undiscilpined bag of sh!t on our line. I’m glad you love mediocrity. I want championships.
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ok what’s the most # of the games the 9ers before this year? What about the Texans? In case you didn’t realize there are good players on bad teams.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Actually Pitt was l. We were tied with SD and someone else for 2.
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Yep, just googled it and you’re absolutely right.
Pitt-48
Raiders-47
SD-47
GB-47
January 16th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
How many times have you heard this from a law enforcement official:
“I observed what I believed to be suspicious behavior”
Come on man!
I observe suspicious behavior all day long in this blog, at my office and in my neighborhood and so does anyone else who pays attention.
IT’S BS!!!
Its exactly like “Failure to use do care”
This is actually a charge cops can use to pull you over.
What does that mean “failure to use do care”
Its called a BS reason to rape you of your civil liberties just for the sake of doing so and you cant convince me otherwise.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
424
Despite your love affair with TK, he sucks.
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The defensive tackles on this team are not the problem. The LB’s and the DE’s are. When Shaughnessy is in there we are a better team. Clearly we need depth along that line tho. Henderson clearly was not the answer.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Did a little research on Capers.
I know some are down, some not.
JFB likes the D numbers of his past 4-5 years.
Excluding His Pittsburgh years as DC 92-94, (Dick Lebeau was his sounding board)
Capers led defenses were ranked in the top 10 of His previous 15 years coaching.
He also had 4 defenses ranked 27th or less. Houston (2), Carolina (1) his last season, and Miami (1)
Guy seems real good at times, and less than average at others.
This is not the Guy for Me.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
How many times have you heard this from a law enforcement official:
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One point you have not made is cops lie. With watered down civil liberty protections and lying cops, no one is safe from anything.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
424
Despite your love affair with TK, he sucks. And what year were we # 3 in the league?? The year we were 2-14 and teams just ate up the clock by running the ball on us all day?? That year?? Yeah, boy was that successful. Again I say, we’ve never won more than 8 games in a season with this undiscilpined bag of sh!t on our line. I’m glad you love mediocrity. I want championships.
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ok what’s the most # of the games the 9ers before this year? What about the Texans? In case you didn’t realize there are good players on bad teams.
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Know what those 2 teams are pretty good at this year?? Stopping the run. Know what we’ve NEVER been any good at with TK trying to get sacks on 3rd and 1?? Stopping the run!!! Its pretty simple really. Add that to the ridiculous amounts of off-sides penalties the guy has had over the years and it just doesnt work. Send him packing for a guy that cares about WINNING!! Not stats!!
January 16th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
“One point you have not made is cops lie. With watered down civil liberty protections and lying cops, no one is safe from anything.”
Good point. Some people say when they see a cop they feel safe but most of us are smart enough to know that is not the case. These cops are no longer protect and serve they are now revenue generators for the state so when you see one coming hold on to your pocket book because another form of government is coming to take your money!
January 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Wait, somebody explain to me how we can interview Saints OC before a game but not Packers coaches.
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Been asking that since last week when the Denver assts were interviewing.
I was thinking GB might have made it a condition of releasing McKenzie early that he not rape their staff.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
666, Its assumed law enforcement is on our side to serve the people. Clearly that is no longer the case as they have become part of Homeland security with Federal powers if the occasion arises.
And it will.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
If you are going to defend the government in taking away civil liberties why not just turn into a George Orwell 1984 society right now!
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Not defending the government at all.
I just called BS on your statement.
Watch any F…ing Police “real life” show. ( This is for your help in understanding the process.)
I was already aware of it.
It’s all about warrants and building a case of probable cause, which you then take before a judge…TO ISSUE a SEARCH WARRANT.
I’m ALL about Civil Liberties.
So We are actually on the same page, just a different knowledge of what can and can’t be done by the PO-lice…legally.
Peace.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
The main reason the DEA is equipped as such is they are the biggest customer of the war industrial complex. . .it is more important to issue contracts to defense contractors for over equipping the DEA to combat “controlled substances” than to legalize, tax/tarriff & control the industry. . .Also, this reinforces the antiquated premise that greenery leads to stronger drugs. . .I think some of today’s available inventory would prove that a “myth.” So, S&B 666 you are on the right track. . .
We used to build “bombers for Jesus (our nickname for the B-2)” until the Iron Curtain fell. . .in the process we were building to scale model prototypes based on that design that have become drones. . .now North Dakota has employed drones issued to border patrol to monitor skirmishes betwen cattle ranchers. . .the ACLU intervened, citing civil rights & first amendment protection. . .if their efforts are rebuked big brother takes a large step towards Marshall Law (a bit more tyrannical than the Patriot Act. Then they would have something remisicent of a true Facist government).
But the true constituency of the government will still be able to “get.” And they won’t be visited by black helicopters. . .
January 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
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No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
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No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
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Dick LeBeau
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Hubris Jax’s spin doctor should be sued for malpractice. . .I’m as weary of that as I am (was, thankfully) of the ‘Pack’s arrogance (vacation time!). . .
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
it’s not the individuals it’s the system. know good ppl gone bad once becoming a cop. former buddy told me he’d pull me over if he saw me driving because you gotta stop crime before it happens and it’s not like i pack a gat or anything
January 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
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No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
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Dick LeBeau
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Dick LeBeau’s only been a Head Coach once. What are you talking about?
January 16th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
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No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
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Dick LeBeau
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Dick LeBeau’s only been a Head Coach once. What are you talking about?
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You didnt specify HC.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Lets look at a scenario that takes place 20 years ago, the end result, and then look at that exact same scenario would take place today shall we?
1982
You are at a party with a few friends and a fight breaks out inside the house, its loud and the neighbors call the police. The police come they ask you if everything is alright everyone talk to the cops, they see that no one is injured and the fight is over so the cops say its cool and leave the house.
2012
You are at a party with a few friends and a fight breaks out inside the house, its loud and the neighbors call the police. The police come they ask everyone there for their drivers license and do a warrant check on everyone at the house. They ask everyone questions, the search the house and find out who is at fault make a couple of arrests and ask everyone else to leave the house.
They come back book the guys who were fighting and they now have to pay bail a fine court costs and go before a judge.
You see nowadays when the police are called someone is going downtown regardless of what happened they need to justify financially their trip to to that complaint.
Now they can log it as more crime in that area the need for more police and patrol cars in that area more court dates more lawyers more judges and more MONEY!
This is how government has gotten to be so big, by loosely falsifying the stats!
All of this only means one thing MORE MONEY for local law enforcement!
January 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
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No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
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Dick LeBeau
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Dick LeBeau’s only been a Head Coach once. What are you talking about?
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You didnt specify HC.
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You knew what I meant. Quit being disingenuous.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
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regardless he had us in the playoffs regularly and won a superbowl with a different team, would at least warrant an interview I’d think
January 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
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No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
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Dick LeBeau
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Dick LeBeau’s only been a Head Coach once. What are you talking about?
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I have much respect for Mr LeBeau, but I don’t want a 70 plus man in the hot seat.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
The team has to grant you permission to interview their coaches after the end of the regular season, if the coaches are under contract.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
The team has to grant you permission to interview their coaches after the end of the regular season, if the coaches are under contract.
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However, if you’re asking to interview someone for Head Coach after their team’s season is over, the team has to say “Yes.”
January 16th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Forrest Hump Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bring chucky in for an interview!
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No. Name one recent coach returning to his previous team whose return wasn’t mediocre at best.
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Dick LeBeau
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Dick LeBeau’s only been a Head Coach once. What are you talking about?
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You didnt specify HC.
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You knew what I meant. Quit being disingenuous.
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Fair enough.
That being said I wouldnt have any problems with Gruden being interviewed. I would also love to see Marty Schottenheimer get an interview. His attitude is just what this bunch of overpaid pansies needs. Someone who will take no BS!!
January 16th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
“So We are actually on the same page, just a different knowledge of what can and can’t be done by the PO-lice…legally.
Peace.”
Len I am not trying to berate you are find you wrong and I do enjoy a good debate.
Do you really think that a cop needs a warrant to come into your home?
Because they do not.
Just that one question?
January 16th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Lets look at a scenario that takes place 20 years ago, the end result, and then look at that exact same scenario would take place today shall we?
1982
You are at a party with a few friends and a fight breaks out inside the house, its loud and the neighbors call the police. The police come they ask you if everything is alright everyone talk to the cops, they see that no one is injured and the fight is over so the cops say its cool and leave the house.
2012
You are at a party with a few friends and a fight breaks out inside the house, its loud and the neighbors call the police. The police come they ask everyone there for their drivers license and do a warrant check on everyone at the house. They ask everyone questions, the search the house and find out who is at fault make a couple of arrests and ask everyone else to leave the house.
They come back book the guys who were fighting and they now have to pay bail a fine court costs and go before a judge.
You see nowadays when the police are called someone is going downtown regardless of what happened they need to justify financially their trip to to that complaint.
Now they can log it as more crime in that area the need for more police and patrol cars in that area more court dates more lawyers more judges and more MONEY!
This is how government has gotten to be so big, by loosely falsifying the stats!
All of this only means one thing MORE MONEY for local law enforcement!
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I don’t disagree.
Thank the Lawyers and Politicians for tying the hands of “smart” Cops.
People get booked and processed because they have to cover their ass now.
Back in the day, Street cops had a longer leash, and could satisfy the complaint with out writing people up.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Marty Schottenheimer get an interview.
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love Marty, but he truly hates the Raiders, couldn’t imagine he’d want to coach us
January 16th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Raiderbuck
You think you could stand to bang some skanky smelly chick that hasn’t showered in days?
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In Iowa, thats all we have to work with,….
January 16th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
In Iowa, thats all we have to work with,….
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nice!
January 16th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Donald Driver is a FA.
If we decide to trade Ford, it won’t be too hard to fill in some pieces around DHB and Moore.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Marty doesn’t hate the Raiders he just hated Al Davis ..sounds like the idiots that say I don’t hate the Lakers I just hate Kobe.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Next year We’ll have the Saints Offense and the Broncos Defense #whoCaresWhoTheCoachIs
January 16th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I think it is interesting that the Saint’s OC has already interviewed and we have interest in talking to the Donkey’s OC.
Maybe McKenzie looked at the GB offense with Farve and Rogers as the driving force of those winning teams instead of the defensive contributions?
January 16th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
If we decide to trade Ford
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nah too valuable as a receiver and a special teamer. Ford Moore DHB =Cruz Nicks Manningham
January 16th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
“So We are actually on the same page, just a different knowledge of what can and can’t be done by the PO-lice…legally.
Peace.”
Len I am not trying to berate you are find you wrong and I do enjoy a good debate.
Do you really think that a cop needs a warrant to come into your home?
Because they do not.
Just that one question?
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“The eyes can not trespass” If a Cop can clearly see thru a door or the windows of your home a crime being committed, “violent act” comes to mind, He then does have probable cause to enter the property and “fix it”
Do the Police enter the wrong Home, or Illegally…YES
Emphasis on Illegally.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Donald Driver is a FA.
If we decide to trade Ford, it won’t be too hard to fill in some pieces around DHB and Moore.
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Dude is light years ahead of ol Javon.
Works for me. At thew right price.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Ps I would like to send a personal apology to Hakeen Nicks for ever saying that DHB would be way better than him.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Marty doesn’t hate the Raiders he just hated Al Davis ..sounds like the idiots that say I don’t hate the Lakers I just hate Kobe.
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Agreed. He hated Al and would never have worked for him. But to be the coach that brings us out of the dark ages, and instill discipline and command the respect of the current Raiders and just maybe get himself a couple of playoff wins?? I think he would LOVE that opportunity. And he’d be damn good at restoring some sanity aroudn here.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Ps .I would like to send a personal apology to Hakeen Nicks for ever saying that DHB would be way better than him.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
“Thank the Lawyers and Politicians for tying the hands of “smart” Cops.
People get booked and processed because they have to cover their ass now.
Back in the day, Street cops had a longer leash, and could satisfy the complaint with out writing people up.”
Good point!
Many years ago I had roommates in Santa Clara and one night the police broke into our house and woke us all up at gun point because my roommate hit a stop sign with his corvette and fled the scene a few hours earlier. None of us knew he did this and of course he was not home when this happened so the rest of us got rousted. It was a rude awakening for me and the other guys involved that the police could break into our house with guns blazing because of this. They can and they will.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
What about Vjax?
January 16th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
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The same VJax that just let Gio intercept that pass in the 1st game without even trying to make a play??? Pass. Our WR core is one of the bright spots on this team (Thank you Al). We dont need any more damn prima donnas than we already have. VJax can stay in SD.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Good point
January 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I like how covert Reggie is no one knew about the Saints coach being interviewed until today.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
VJax is going to want to much $.
We are fine with Moore and DHB as the #1 and #2 WRs on the team, imo.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I like how covert Reggie is no one knew about the Saints coach being interviewed until today.
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he seems to be more thorough an interviewer than his boss
January 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
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And with a healthy Ford in the slot?? Yeah buddy, our WR’s are NICE. Actually our whole offense is just fine. Too bad our defense stinks like yesterdays cheeseheads.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Now it’s being reported that the Raiders have been granted permission to speak with Carmichael, but no actual interview has happened yet.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I like how covert Reggie is no one knew about the Saints coach being interviewed until today.
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he seems to be more thorough an interviewer than his boss
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Which is why Mark was smart enough to hire him and get the hell out of his way.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
J Hill Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
VJax is going to want to much $.
We are fine with Moore and DHB as the #1 and #2 WRs on the team, imo.
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Yes, no need to overpay for a V Jackson given the development curve of the current WR group.
We have a defense to rebuild.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Why would R McKenzie trade ford? He is cheap, he has 2 more years on his contract, he can return kicks, and he doesn’t have a lot of trade value. 3rd rd, or second if we get lucky.
If he wants to trade players to get more picks, then he will trade players with trade value like TK, Routt, Huff, etc…
January 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Draft another RB or two, maybe find another in FA.
Draft another OG/RT or two, or go after Evan Mathis in FA.
Other than that, the offense should be fine.
Most important is finding a gap-plugging DT or NT, and a playmaking OLB or DE. The Raiders should also look at CB Brandon Carr.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Saints beat writer Mike Triplett confirms Raiders seek permission to interview off. coord. Pete Carmichael Jr. Adds no interview taken place
13 minutes ago
January 16th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Ford & Moore are our best WRs, DHB is still learning, and LM is a good backup.
No way R McKenzie trades Ford. That doesn’t make sense.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
420.Seymour Bush Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
jmeds Says:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
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If you want a copy of the last game of the season against SD call me. you will see a team that is completely disorganized, can’t get plays in, waste timeouts, have delay of game penalites, can’t manage the clock in crucial situations. Jackson is not HC material. Sorry.
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He made some rookie mistakes and needs improvement, but Raider football was exciting again and who deserves that credit? Hue also made some great gutsy calls and that is the beast as a coach, can you win more than you lose. At the end of the day, Hue needed to be more humble but the man enudred alot as a first year head coach. I hate to see him go and us have to hold our breath with another “rebuild.” Hue has the wild card, as in the cohonas to do what it takes to win. He uses his pieces to the puzzle and puts them in postion to play to their strengths and make plays. A healthy Raider team coasts into the playoffs this year, lets not kid ourselves.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Who wants the Donks defense? They gave up 40 plus points like 6x.
We need a tough ass coach, period!!
See Tom c,Jim mad John H and Belicheat. If Moss is a tough coach, bring him in!!
January 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
“Why would R McKenzie trade ford?”
1. He doesn’t want to trade McFadden but wants to trade the next best value for draft picks.
2. He tweets at 3AM the night before the biggest game of his career.
3. He had a bad attitude about the Palmer trade not a company man.
Now those are 3 reasons but I am in no way saying that is the case or should it be because as you pointed out there are far better reasons to keep him.
January 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
We’re in Hurry up and Wait Mode…..
I’m pretty sure no matter who McKenzie picks they’ll be a group that hates the pick ….
Human nature…
January 16th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Raiders have until tomorrow to inform coaches under contract whether they will be retained. If not, they are free to seek work elsewhere.
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This means besides, Chuck B. You probably can say adios to the entire staff. Wylie, Wiz1.0, and Bones included…….
January 16th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Defense is winning championships again! Besides Ne, all the other teams playing next Sunday have smart, physical, tough defenses.
Spend most of the money on Defense!!!
January 16th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
That’s the diffrence in Raider and Donkey fans … We’re pizzedoff about going 8/8… Fired our coach… And the Donk fans are giddy about going 8/8 and losing 4 of the last 5.. Plus a Qb that doesn’t have a Qb passing rate any higher the Jamarcus Russell ….
January 16th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Whats the name of B’s cousin who plays for Mizzou?
January 16th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Players to build around:
Offense:
Palmer
DMC
Moore & Ford
Veldheer & Wiz
Defense:
Matt S, Houston, and Dez
McClain, Curry, & Wimbley
Branch, DVD, Chekwa
I wouldn’t trade any of them. I think they are talented, and they live the game.
January 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Love the game.
January 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
NEW POST..
January 16th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Raider O #495
What kind of a f’n rock did you climb out from under, genius?? Rebuild the D around ebony sub-moron McClain?
Hopefully, that worthless jackass will be sent packing, first with an ax handle upside his brainless head. The fact that he was named captain of the D was both appalling and a testament to the stupidity of Hue the Pimpin Magnificient. Just look at dink McClain: the small animal looking eyes, sluffed off chin, and nasty goatee. Hopefully he’ll go right down to Coontown in Alabama or where ever the hell he’s from, and promptly get shot in the head. That will void his contract and save us cap space, unless he already has a passel of lil chillenz who would represent his estate in case of a head shot to “der daddy.”
DVD, Chekwa are in the same category as McClain; they won’t pan out. Their on-field level of performance this season is as good as it will ever get.
Also, the serial foot problem DMAC, should be traded quickly before he gets hurt walking down the street in the off season. He’s worthless since he can’t maintain his presence on the field, and because he does little against top tier teams. He can only perform against serial losers like himself.
January 16th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Al D Davis U Racist punk I bet u wouldn’t say any of that crap to anyones face ur just a computer tough guy. Punk.
January 16th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Spotn @ %450, S&B 666. . .It has become a quantifiable, inventory controlled corporation. . .I realize this is good in so far as doing business but when the veil is pulled off then they are directly accountable to their master, the weapons manufaccturere. . .Also, this just in. . .speed traps, seatbelt awareness & safety checks are (and DUI enforcement)are just there for “probable cause” suspicion and, ultimately a revenue tool. . .
In the late ’80’s i was broken into repeatedly. . .I only called the cops to appease the insurance company. . .because we factored in the intangables we were able to aprehend the (alleged) perps ourselves. . .Upon their arrival the cops defined the rules of engagement. . .
Three weeks later I was pulled over for running a stop sign & given a ticket. . .so, it is cheaper, safer & more profitable to sit in wait for potential traffic offenses than to cruise throughout neighborhoods, establishing a presence thatm may deter a large percentage of breakins or home invasion (the cops would rather do this themselves, mistaken identity be damned!)incidences. ?Again, cheaper, safer, more cost effective. . .thank you law enforcement. And my porch @ front lawn aren’t consider my property if I shoot someone that wants to break into my castle & steal my hard earned possessions? This IS America!
January 16th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
eastoaklandraider #499
Yo tough guy: if I procurred a $25M contract for services I would put every living, waking, sleeping second into it, to be the best I could be.
Saying this directly to your face: in east Oakland I am sure it’s cool to bang, live a worthless life and kill your own brothers, clan, and culture, since you lack drama in your everyday life to fulfill the evolutionary patterns of fighting and aggression imbedded within young men: if a war doesn’t exist without against real enemies of the state, young men with too time on their hands will create a war, within, banging and killing in the inner city.
Sorry brah, not in my world. Maybe that’s because I worked my azz and earned with my own two hands everything I have, and didn’t depend on a welfare checks or food stamps.
Now this ebony sub-moron McClain, all nig.a rich and stupid, spits in the face of the Raiders and the Nation, claiming his “uncle died” and immediately gets involved in gunplay at a party.
I have more respect for JaMarcus Russel than him. At least JaMarcus was just confused and lazy, without the maliciousness of the sub-moron. And in sub-moron McClain’s mind he performed just great, especially after the “incident.” (His Moma told him so: she probably is big as a refrigerator and has 6 kids from 6 different men.)
Sub-moron McClain, was nothing but a whirling windmill, runners going right through his ineffective arm tackles, missed tackles completely, or was too slow or flying through the air ass-over-tea kettle while RB’s, QB’s, Tightends, and WR’s ripped off huge chunks of yardage.
Tell you what my unwise friend, go back and watch the Saints/49′er game and you will see how “real” linebackers perform: not the same as McClain the pretender – nig.a rich – who, 4 or 5 yrs from now, will be living in a ditch, and dead broke.
(That is unless we are fortunate enough that some crazy nig.ar caps caps his ugly azz, and gets rid of him for good.)
Lastly, at least I have the courage to speak what most fans and the Nation believe, but are hesitant to articulate regarding the Sub-Moron and Pimpin the Magnificent Hue.
January 16th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Good evening fellas,
Why would we trade DHB? Please explain how drafting an unproven player for a player who is improving and is our most productive WR.
January 16th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
…would make sense.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Starting to question Reggie..
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
January 16th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Why not GRUDEN????!!!!