Morninhweg interviewing with McKenzie today
By Steve Corkran
Friday, January 20th, 2012 at 3:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg is interviewing with general manager Reggie McKenzie for the Raiders coaching vacancy today, according to NFL.com.
Mornhingweg has spent the past nine seasons with the Eagles, the past eight directing one of the league’s most-productive offenses. He coached the Detroit Lions in 2001-02, when he compiled a 5-27 record.
Mornhinweg attended Oak Grove High School in San Jose and coached for the 49ers from 1997-2000.
In other news, the Miami Dolphins settled upon Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin to be their new head coach, which leaves Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and Dolphins secondary coach Todd Bowles still on the open market.
McCoy canceled his planned interview with McKenzie on Wednesday so that he could concentrate on the Dolphins job. McKenzie reportedly wasn’t thrilled by McCoy’s change of plans.
Philbin’s hire also figures to quicken McKenzie’s pace if he has any intention of hiring one or more Packers coaches. Philbin no doubt will consider bringing along Winston Moss, Darren Perry and Tom Clements.
Moss is thought to be the front-runner for the Raiders coaching job, though he has yet to be interviewed.
Bowles and Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen are the only two candidates for the Raiders job known to have interviewed. ESPN’s Adam Schefter maintains that the Raiders interviewed New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. one week ago, though Saints general manager Mickely Loomis said it didn’t happen.
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January 20th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Where’s Moss.
January 20th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Miami wants Bowles to stay as DC.
We need to be making a move.
January 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
122.RaiderLen Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
If Tressel or Childress get hired by the Colts, the Raiders should try to get their second round pick in return for McFadden.
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Colts would make that deal.
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Yeah, trade our best player for a 2nd round pick in a weak draft and when our other RB is a free agent.
That’s the ticket!
January 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Go Marty Go.
January 20th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Can Marty bring Nnamdi back with him?..
January 20th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Okay Reggie, time to pick up the pace!
January 20th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Sucks to be Jamista Clown.
January 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Dakota Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
122.RaiderLen Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
If Tressel or Childress get hired by the Colts, the Raiders should try to get their second round pick in return for McFadden.
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Colts would make that deal.
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Yeah, trade our best player for a 2nd round pick in a weak draft and when our other RB is a free agent.
That’s the ticket!
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I have to agree. I am not seeing the logic in trading arguably the most explosive offensive back in the entire league for who know’s what.
January 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Dakota Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
122.RaiderLen Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
If Tressel or Childress get hired by the Colts, the Raiders should try to get their second round pick in return for McFadden.
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Colts would make that deal.
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Yeah, trade our best player for a 2nd round pick in a weak draft and when our other RB is a free agent.
That’s the ticket!
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I’m personally on the fence with respect to trading McFadden.
LOVE the Guy when He’s on the field.
I’d want more than the 1st pick in the 2nd round for Him, and if I were offered more, I would consider it.
January 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Just so you guys know: hire slowly, fire quickly.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Mike Silver; “My only question is; Is the guy they get to replace Hue Jackson a better coach than Hue Jackson?” “..if its Jon Gruden, then I’ll shut up…”
dude is ALL OVER the Raiders on PFT
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Mike if you think Hue jackson is ALL THAT, you have no cred. And Gruden for that matter. If Jackson was as good as some think, he would already have a job.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Dolphins hire Philbin as HC.
Race is on for Packers assistants.
Hope Reggie is paying attention.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Awesome tweet from “RAIDER_NATION”:
“I’m sure McCoy would fly to Cambodia to interview with Reggie now.”
Once again, with feeling: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
January 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Mike Silver; “My only question is; Is the guy they get to replace Hue Jackson a better coach than Hue Jackson?” “..if its Jon Gruden, then I’ll shut up…”
dude is ALL OVER the Raiders on PFT
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Mike if you think Hue jackson is ALL THAT, you have no cred. And Gruden for that matter. If Jackson was as good as some think, he would already have a job.
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Silver has an opinion.
We all do.
We just never did the nasty with Hue like Silver apparently has.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Just so you guys know: hire slowly, fire quickly.
Naw dawg dis Jig McKenzie thinks slow and nevermind he just thinks slow real talk
January 20th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
So GB Assistants would be quick to follow Philbin? Well, Reggie, cancel that interview with Tice and lets get moving…
January 20th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
13.. I’m glad that jackass McCoy backed out of Raiders interview… whata idiot.. McCoy actually had some fans here earlier in the week.. Lmao! !
January 20th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Just so you guys know: hire slowly, fire quickly.
Naw dawg dis Jig McKenzie thinks slow and nevermind he just thinks slow real talk
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Gotta love these cowards that troll BS through additional screen names.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
If Reggie f’ks up his first coaching hire after firing a semi-popular Hue Jackson he lose a lot of fans.
The clock is ticking while Reggie interviews stupid losers like Morningwood and Tice.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
So GB Assistants would be quick to follow Philbin? Well, Reggie, cancel that interview with Tice and lets get moving…
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I’m more skeptical of the greatness of all of the GB assistants.
Not to demean their contributions, but Rogers atones for a lot of sin.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Very good point Seymour Bush… if hue as good as everybody thought he was. He would have at minimum an offensive coordinator position by now… I doubt Jackson is turning jobs down… and I admit, I initially wanted his return… not anymore.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I still say, cancel the interview with Tice and bring back Bowles….unless that interview stunk it up for 4 hours!
January 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Pretty sure Bowles willing to accept DC position with Raiders. .. I hope we end up with Bowles and Moss..
January 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I still say, cancel the interview with Tice and bring back Bowles….unless that interview stunk it up for 4 hours!
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I get the sense that Reggie operates with integrity.
If he set an interview, he’ll honor it.
Reggie can still talk to Bowles by phone, right now.
No need to worry.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
My sources tell me Reggie was planning on interviewing packers coaches Tuesday at the senior bowl, thats the same day as Tice, but with the recent Dolphins hire Reggie plans on moving quickly and could be heading to Greenbay tonight.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Al Saunders would be a better hire than these bums McNigga in dating.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Pretty sure Bowles willing to accept DC position with Raiders. .. I hope we end up with Bowles and Moss..
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One thing I’m sure of in all of this.
I’m ready for a Head coach who’s made his bones on the defensive side of the ball.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
LMAO! McCoy you loser!! Go back to denver with your tail betwen your legs.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
LMAO! McCoy you loser!! Go back to denver with your tail betwen your legs.
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Guess He didn’t read the room very well. lol
January 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Raider Len… that’s the truth brother.. no matter how bad your offense is. A great defense will always keep you in the game. I miss having a great raider D… three of the four teams in the playoffs have good defenses.. lets fix our D Reggie!!
January 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Pretty sure Bowles willing to accept DC position with Raiders. .. I hope we end up with Bowles and Moss..
Now instead of KFC Slaw and McD’s Burgers, we serve straight KFC Fried Chicken.
Real Talk though Watermellon with that Chili shake the beaners use is da bomb my jigs
January 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
LOL@Marc Davis when are you guyz gonna tell that kid to cut those BANGS OFF. I hope you guyz trade McFadden you losers.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
F McCoy…glad he got turned down…and he pissed off Fozzy Bear!
January 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Al Saunders would be a better hire than these bums McNigga in dating.
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Don’t you have some crosses to go burn or something?
January 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
LOL@ the raiders for interviewing McCoy.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Pretty sure Bowles willing to accept DC position with Raiders. .. I hope we end up with Bowles and Moss..
Now instead of KFC Slaw and McD’s Burgers, we serve straight KFC Fried Chicken.
Real Talk though Watermellon with that Chili shake the beaners use is da bomb my jigs
Wow…that reminded me of Fuzzy Zoeller when Tiger won the Masters…
January 20th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
We didn’t interview McCoy you Fk
January 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Is this sullys new sockpuppet racist handels. . You stupid loser!!
January 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
LOL ya b-cuz he turned your loser team down LOSER.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Raider Len… that’s the truth brother.. no matter how bad your offense is. A great defense will always keep you in the game. I miss having a great raider D… three of the four teams in the playoffs have good defenses.. lets fix our D Reggie!!
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Yep
Great D allows for more 3 and outs and turnovers.
It compensates for the O by providing it more opportunity.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Tweedy – Must be hard to type with that white pointy hood on.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
When are you gonna tell Marc Davis to cut those bangs. The face of your loser team has a womans hair style.LMAO@URAIDER FANZ.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
MadTaktix Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
LOL ya b-cuz he turned your loser team down LOSER.
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And I see “Charged Up” and “Dvrick” now has a new sockpuppet…
January 20th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
don’t feed the trolls guys. Steady now. It takes strength. They guy after awihle. Trust me…
January 20th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
*will be gone*
January 20th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
LOL @ u raider fanz. U girls don’t have any DRAFT PICKS HA? No Hue Jackson ha and I bet you losers trade McFadden Ha.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Talking to Morning is a waste of time.
Only reason he is getting looked at is due to his and Reids ties to the Pack in the past.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
LOL@ McKenzie You girls need to call Jenni Craig before its too late.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
MadTaktix Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
When are you gonna tell Marc Davis to cut those bangs. The face of your loser team has a womans hair style.LMAO@URAIDER FANZ.
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It’s a Dorthy Hamill cut.
It’s impossible to cut them any further.
They would no longer be bangs.
BY the way…He owns an NFL Franchise.
I’m sure he’s doing just fine….You? LOL
January 20th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Folks Reggie is screwing up allready made you guys think he had a vision for this team well he doesn’t. Bone head coaching interviews with lousy coaches. Things are not changing IMO they gettin worse. They fire hue and this crap is goin on. I’m telling you if he don’t get a good coach soon we will lose out. If your happy about what has gone on post the hue firing something’s wrong.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
I got a fresh Fade. I’d give Marc Davis a fresh fade too. Your LOSER team needz the SWAGGA.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
MadTaktix Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
I got a fresh Fade. I’d give Marc Davis a fresh fade too. Your LOSER team needz the SWAGGA.
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Bald is not a fade.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
LOL what are you girls gonna do for this years DRAFT? UMMH we are going to be standing around watching everybody else get better.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Who would have thought we could replace the second head coach I ever seen screw up a coin toss (Hue Jackson) with the first coach I seen screw up a coin toss (Moronwig)?
January 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Oh and here is another thing fellas.
If Moss is hired and Clements is hired as his OC here, does that mean Raiders go back to running a ZBS stretch blocking system in the running game like what the Pack do?
Hope not. Running an exclusive ZBS system is too predictable….even though it works for the Texans, but changing back to running the exclusive ZBS here would be a mistake.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
MadTaktix Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
I got a fresh Fade. I’d give Marc Davis a fresh fade too. Your LOSER team needz the SWAGGA.
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MadTaktix still goes for the Bobby Brown look.
“Who’s Bobby Brown?” some of the younger fans may be asking.
Exactly my point.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Speaking of NFL owners, any of you watch that lil interview on espn with the Colts owner? He looked smoked out, he was either smoking somethin before the interview are drinkin.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
While we’re waiting here, Philbin was just hired in Miami, and they might go after Clements as OC. Even if they don’t and Green Bay promotes him to OC we still can’t get him. so we really gotta go fast.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Tweedy – Must be hard to type with that white pointy hood on.
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Ya,
When He cut the eye holes he mis aligned them.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
This Moronweig is a waste of time. Forget being old buddies…we gotta find someone we really would intend to hire. I agree with being thorough but bringing in people you ain’t gonna hire is a waste of time.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
LOL@U GIRLS at least RAIZE UP. No wonder you girls are alwayz losing year after year after year. You don’t even stand up to a guy like me LOL u girls just keep silent and hope I go away. RAIZE UP LADIEZ.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
50.jmcclain Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Folks Reggie is screwing up allready made you guys think he had a vision for this team well he doesn’t. Bone head coaching interviews with lousy coaches. Things are not changing IMO they gettin worse. They fire hue and this crap is goin on. I’m telling you if he don’t get a good coach soon we will lose out. If your happy about what has gone on post the hue firing something’s wrong.
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Reggie is picking the brains of the different coaches around the league, especially from the ones who beat us to see how they beat us, what they consider our weaknesses, strengths, what they think of our players and how they improve the team as HC. I’m sure he is taking a crap load notes.
Reggie knows Winstom Moss is his ace in the hole.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Realtruraider Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Speaking of NFL owners, any of you watch that lil interview on espn with the Colts owner? He looked smoked out, he was either smoking somethin before the interview are drinkin.
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I believe Irsay has a “History”
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I went back and took a look at Morningwig’s roster.
Pretty sad roster. Defense was worse than ours.
Went back to school, so to speak, with Reid for 9 years and you guys don’t think he’s ready for a 2nd shot?
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
While we’re waiting here, Philbin was just hired in Miami, and they might go after Clements as OC. Even if they don’t and Green Bay promotes him to OC we still can’t get him. so we really gotta go fast
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Now Reggie will talk to McCoy again and will probably ask Clements to wait for a bit.
I think Clements will be looked at as the OC here if Moss gets hired and IF they don’t keep Saunders as OC, which I think they should do keep Saunders as the play caller.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
MadTaktix Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
LOL@U GIRLS at least RAIZE UP. No wonder you girls are alwayz losing year after year after year. You don’t even stand up to a guy like me LOL u girls just keep silent and hope I go away. RAIZE UP LADIEZ.
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I see your powers of observation are as poor as your spelling, fashion and womanizing “skills.”
Now go play outside.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
64.J Hill Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I went back and took a look at Morningwig’s roster.
Pretty sad roster. Defense was worse than ours.
Went back to school, so to speak, with Reid for 9 years and you guys don’t think he’s ready for a 2nd shot?
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Nope.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I vote for a return to the ZBS.
Got to be diversified in your schemes.
Run some ZBS, run some mis-direction bootleg stuff off of it, than when they least expect it, quick count and fire off the ball quickly.
Same on D. Show some 3-4, some 4-3, some 2-4-5, zone blitzes, straight man, etc.
We need to get up on this chess game the league is playing, and get off this macho-man building a bully nonsense.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
What I wanna know is when Is Reggie gonna fire that POS John Herrera? Why that hasn’t happened already is beyond me.
That’ll be addition by subtraction to the Raiders image.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
63.RaiderLen Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Realtruraider Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Speaking of NFL owners, any of you watch that lil interview on espn with the Colts owner? He looked smoked out, he was either smoking somethin before the interview are drinkin.
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I believe Irsay has a “History”
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Probably drinking the hard stuff.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
J Hill Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I went back and took a look at Morningwig’s roster.
Pretty sad roster. Defense was worse than ours.
Went back to school, so to speak, with Reid for 9 years and you guys don’t think he’s ready for a 2nd shot?
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4 out of the last 6 years, his offense has been in the top five in the league.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
What I wanna know is when Is Reggie gonna fire that POS John Herrera? Why that hasn’t happened already is beyond me.
That’ll be addition by subtraction to the Raiders image.
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I suspect Herrera’s been totally on his best behavior. As long as he stays that way, I don’t have a problem with him.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
68.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I vote for a return to the ZBS.
Got to be diversified in your schemes.
Run some ZBS, run some mis-direction bootleg stuff off of it, than when they least expect it, quick count and fire off the ball quickly.
Same on D. Show some 3-4, some 4-3, some 2-4-5, zone blitzes, straight man, etc.
We need to get up on this chess game the league is playing, and get off this macho-man building a bully nonsense.
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Raiders have been diversified with the running schemes the last two years since Hue has been the play caller.
He mixed up power blocking, power zone blocking, with some ZBS blocking mixed in with counters, pulling and trap blocking.
That’s the way to do it these days….keeps DLines off balance.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
LOL@U RAIDER LOSERS. You just let the driver of the car drive in the wrong direction and u girlz can’t even come up with anything better than go play outside. LOL@U OLD TIMERZ.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
John Herrera is awesome!!!
January 20th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
especially from the ones who beat us to see how they beat us, what they consider our weaknesses, strengths, what they think of our players and how they improve the team as HC.
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Interesting angle.
Fits for everyone excpet Morningwig and Tice though, right
January 20th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
71.RaiderDuck Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
J Hill Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I went back and took a look at Morningwig’s roster.
Pretty sad roster. Defense was worse than ours.
Went back to school, so to speak, with Reid for 9 years and you guys don’t think he’s ready for a 2nd shot?
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4 out of the last 6 years, his offense has been in the top five in the league.
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Vick inflated those numbers. Reid was the primary play caller also.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
J Hill Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I went back and took a look at Morningwig’s roster.
Pretty sad roster. Defense was worse than ours.
Went back to school, so to speak, with Reid for 9 years and you guys don’t think he’s ready for a 2nd shot?
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4 out of the last 6 years, his offense has been in the top five in the league.
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My concern would be…Is He a Norv Turner type.
X and O all day long, but not “The Best” at running an entire team.
I’m a bit skeptical.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
76.J Hill Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
especially from the ones who beat us to see how they beat us, what they consider our weaknesses, strengths, what they think of our players and how they improve the team as HC.
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Interesting angle.
Fits for everyone excpet Morningwig and Tice though, right
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I think Morning is a just being nice interview and seeing what he thinks of our offense. Morning and Reid were there when Reggie first started with the Pack I think.
Tice offensive line played well versus the Raiders defense when the Bears came in here and almost stole another one from Chuck B and that crappy D.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
71.RaiderDuck Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
J Hill Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I went back and took a look at Morningwig’s roster.
Pretty sad roster. Defense was worse than ours.
Went back to school, so to speak, with Reid for 9 years and you guys don’t think he’s ready for a 2nd shot?
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4 out of the last 6 years, his offense has been in the top five in the league.
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Vick inflated those numbers. Reid was the primary play caller also.
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Even two years ago, when you had a has-been McNabb, a fresh-out-of-prison Vick, and a never-was Kolb, his offense was still 11th in the league.
He’s a major talent as a coordinator. Whether he can be an HC is in major doubt, however.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Tice offensive line played well versus the Raiders defense when the Bears came in
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Forgot about that.
I appreciate you giving me SOMETHING that ties all these guys together.
I drink enough kool aid to buy it, lol.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
68.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I vote for a return to the ZBS.
Got to be diversified in your schemes.
Run some ZBS, run some mis-direction bootleg stuff off of it, than when they least expect it, quick count and fire off the ball quickly.
Same on D. Show some 3-4, some 4-3, some 2-4-5, zone blitzes, straight man, etc.
We need to get up on this chess game the league is playing, and get off this macho-man building a bully nonsense.
^^^^^^^^
Raiders have been diversified with the running schemes the last two years since Hue has been the play caller.
He mixed up power blocking, power zone blocking, with some ZBS blocking mixed in with counters, pulling and trap blocking.
That’s the way to do it these days….keeps DLines off balance.
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I like the Idea of diversification, but when it comes to the guys in the trenches, I want Big nasty MFrs.
No finesse OL. Nobody gettin pushed back 5 yards.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
He’s a major talent as a coordinator.
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If we can add that offensive mind to our potent weapons, plus another mind he’d bring over as an OC. we might be on track.
Of course I’d still be interested first and foremost in who he’d bring over as a DC.
His defenses were turrible when he last coached.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
JFB and Dakota …
U out there?
Perfect time to look at Bynum vs Howard.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Dont hire morninhweg get bowles and moss while you have the chance reggie. And get some defensive players in FA that has heart
January 20th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
11.Seymour Bush Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Mike Silver; “My only question is; Is the guy they get to replace Hue Jackson a better coach than Hue Jackson?” “..if its Jon Gruden, then I’ll shut up…”
dude is ALL OVER the Raiders on PFT
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Mike if you think Hue jackson is ALL THAT, you have no cred. And Gruden for that matter. If Jackson was as good as some think, he would already have a job.
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Somebody should challenge Silver on that. It’s a good point.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
11.Seymour Bush Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Mike Silver; “My only question is; Is the guy they get to replace Hue Jackson a better coach than Hue Jackson?” “..if its Jon Gruden, then I’ll shut up…”
dude is ALL OVER the Raiders on PFT
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Mike if you think Hue jackson is ALL THAT, you have no cred. And Gruden for that matter. If Jackson was as good as some think, he would already have a job.
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Somebody should challenge Silver on that. It’s a good point.
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Twat…Twit…Tweet?… Him.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
The people (both on this board and the media) who keep pining for Jon Gruden don’t understand one big thing:
The Gruden they’re thinking of, be it the young-and-hungry Gruden of 1998, or the itching-to-prove-himself-away-from-Al Gruden of 2002, no longer exists.
What does exist? The middle-aged, media darling, has-the-whole-sports-world-slobbering-over-him-when-he-hardly-has-to-work Jon Gruden.
Is this Jon Gruden still a good coach? I don’t know. And neither do you. But would he be all kinds of expensive? Yes. Would he demand total control? Yes. Would he be more concerned with keeping up his “Chucky” persona than actually coaching? Quite possibly.
Pass.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Yeah, trade our best player for a 2nd round pick in a weak draft and when our other RB is a free agent.
That’s the ticket!
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Not really a week draft at some key positions, though. Pretty good depth at CB, RB, and DT – all of which happen to be needs for the Raiders.
A higher pick (ie beginning of the second round) will give the Raiders a better chance at getting a difference-maker, though. Dontari Poe, Alameda Ta’amu, Chris Polk, Lamar Miller, Brandon Thompson, Fletcher Cox, Stephon Gilmore, Bruce Irvin, etc..
January 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
could you imagine if Reggie had a list like the Bucs, people would be jumping off bridges. Old time Shotty, Sherman, Childress, etc. The list goes on and on.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I’m sure glad we let go of Hue so we could spend 1 month trying to find who will be “his guy”. The Raiders are almost as dysfunctional as the comments on this blog.
Method to My Fatness and Master Biatchem are still the worst…
January 20th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Important point to remember: Al Davis always was the last one to hire a coach when he had an opening. Valued taking his time, being thorough
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I thought we were finished doing things the Al Davis way.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I don’t get the people he’s interviewing. Moronweg?Tice? Getting turned down by Denver’s Offensive Coordinator who realy wasn’t that offensive.
I can understand Miami’s T/Head Coach. I can understand Charmichael Junior. Philbin would make sense. These guys are up and coming people who are creative schemers and were productive.
The more I see McKenzie the more it worries me…
January 20th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
And then to QUICKLY deny the rumor that we hired someone that is not bad to work under the GM. As if that’s the important thing. Deny rumors of good news. Don’t do anything productive.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
ddsman Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I’m sure glad we let go of Hue so we could spend 1 month trying to find who will be “his guy”. The Raiders are almost as dysfunctional as the comments on this blog.
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So you would prefer Reggie interview potential replacements while a still-employed Hue twists in the wind? No. That’s the Dan Snyder way.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
And then to QUICKLY deny the rumor that we hired someone that is not bad to work under the GM. As if that’s the important thing. Deny rumors of good news. Don’t do anything productive.
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He’s completely rebuilding the personnel department while simultaneously interviewing (so far) four different guys for the head spot. That sounds pretty “productive” to me.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Wow …
8 whole points, Lake Show????
LMFAO!
January 20th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Does Mortonweg or Reid call the plays in Phily?
January 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Looks like our Black Cat has more lives.
Hue hired as HC of the Indy Colts.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Miami fans definitely not happy about philbin as their new head coach. Apparently a notable coach that wanted the job but was not offered an interview by Miami is upset and said undercover of anonymity that Miami front office wants someone they can control.. does that sound familiar??? The front office also wants to keep Todd Bowles as DC and philbin was apparently OK with it!! … I’m glad we didn’t get this schmuck… Miami fan said the Guy is 50 but by philbins looks, you would think he’s closer to 80… LOL.. Ouch!!
January 20th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
i laugh at the guys who kept sayin – and i quote ” i cant wait for al davis to die so we can get back to winning ” now u all saying sum of the same things u said about al davis about mckenzie. slow hiring process … etc,,
January 20th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Logic might have suggested Reggie wait before firing Hue and see how this all plays out first.
I’m sorry, but hring Morninwheg or Tice does not smack of the type of brilliant GM move we all hoped.
It sounds like Al Davis in his worst years.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Looks like our Black Cat has more lives.
Hue hired as HC of the Indy Colts.
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Link, or it’s BS.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Looks like our Black Cat has more lives.
Hue hired as HC of the Indy Colts.
Serious?
January 20th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
#103,
When, where, how?
January 20th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Well, I guess we could always tell Hue that we wanted to just interview other options but in the end decided he was really best. We haven’t let go any of the other people yet really.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
101.doriangray Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
i laugh at the guys who kept sayin – and i quote ” i cant wait for al davis to die so we can get back to winning ” now u all saying sum of the same things u said about al davis about mckenzie. slow hiring process … etc,,
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For the record and not that anyone cares, I was NOT one of those who wanted Al Davis dead. I DID however want him to hire a GM and let him do his thing.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Well, I guess we could always tell Hue that we wanted to just interview other options but in the end decided he was really best. We haven’t let go any of the other people yet really.
True, but they are all free to go elsewhere!
January 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Face it,no matter who Reggie decides to hire there will be many on here that won’t like him and will complain to the max.If he hired someone today there will be those that want to know why he didn’t take his time and do a more thorough job.In other words there will always be those that complain because things aren’t done the way they want.Just as there are those who constantly complain because we don’t get the players they want.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
101… I found it pathetic to hear Raiders fans talk that garbage.. I heard even people in my own family saying stuff like that. Really stupid comments!!.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
101… I found it pathetic to hear Raiders fans talk that garbage.. I heard even people in my own family saying stuff like that. Really stupid comments!!.
AMEN! Never, ever wanted him to pass on…I know it’s inevitable, but…never wished death (seriously) on anyone!
January 20th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
#109,
True.
Also, if he hires Morninwheg most of us will dig up old high school scores and anything else to make us feel better about it and to justify Reggies choice.
“Sure Marty was 5-27 but that was with a bad team” etc. etc. and “When u look at that coin toss snafu, Marty was just relying on his defense to make a stop against the Bears, as he should. Actually, it was the right move”.
It’s already starting.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Raiders denied interviewing Morningweg or anyone else for that matter. They have disavowed any knowledge of knowing a Reggie McKenzie or being affiliated with any organization known as the “NFL.”
January 20th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
i actually said this to a guy who said he wanted al davis to die – ” i hope yur mom and father die ” he got upset . so i said ” well al davis has kids, he has a family , how u think they would feel ” he was like i get your point dude but damn .
January 20th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
[...] Reggie McKenzie sat with Marty Mornhinweg to pick is brain about the coaching vacancy in Oakland. Through sources which will remain anonymous [...]
January 20th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
im so anti morninweg it aint funny . why on earth would n.f.l. owner want this dude and guys like brian billick cant get a job ? maybe they know way more than any of us .
January 20th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
113.joker94583 Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Raiders denied interviewing Morningweg or anyone else for that matter. They have disavowed any knowledge of knowing a Reggie McKenzie or being affiliated with any organization known as the “NFL.”
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Ha. That’s good stuff.
The best comedy has a subtle semblance of truth to it.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
I haven’t heard people wishing for Al’s death, just his retirement.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
I think Hue would of ben a good fit as the Miami coach. Wonder why they didn’t make a run at him.
Can’t you see him in one of those button up flower shirts with some sunglasses and a glass of Irish coffee with ice and you know he would request to have a fresh mani pedi daily in the lockerroom.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
doriangray Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
im so anti morninweg it aint funny . why on earth would n.f.l. owner want this dude and guys like brian billick cant get a job ? maybe they know way more than any of us .
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Brian Billick’s a cruddy coach, that’s why. For an “offensive guru,” his Baltimore offenses were terrible.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’ve heard more people here, wishing for my death. Lol.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
well koolkell u got to be lying as much as u on this blog cus its been posted 300 times in the last 5 years . people say it in bars . i even heard it on the radio by a sportscaster at night .
January 20th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
ghostraiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
McCoy! ! You idiot.. I’m glad he backed out from the Raiders interview. ..Lmao. .
yes sirrrrrrr!
January 20th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
I actually thought at one point that Al would’ve been smart enough to try to hire Harbaugh last year.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Bill Williamson of ESPN is suggesting the Colts take a look at Hue for their HC.
Somehow that turned into Hue being already hired and there’s no report the Colts are even thinking about it.
Please stop the bs posts.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
The nut jobs on this blog consider any critic a “hater”. Yes, there’s been Al critics, but, I never wanted him dead.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I guess it all comes down to if these guys that are being talked about can lead a group of men and run a locker room.
Chudzinski Panthers OC
Carmichael Saints OC
Morninhweg Eagles OC
Bowles Dolphins IHC
I would also ask these two questions:
If you take the lead against a high-powered offense by the score of 26 to 14 with 7 minutes left do you try for the 2 pointer or kick the easy PAT to go up 27-14?
If you are on the opponents 5 yard late in the game and its 4th down and 1 and you are leading 24 to 17 do you go for the first down or kick the FG to put the game away?
We know what Huey did.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Maybe the weekly mani/pedi news, while the Raiders were in the playoff hunt, may have dampened Hue’s reputation in the league?
January 20th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Well, Im off to get my nails done. No Im not a woman, Im Hue mutha fking Jackson.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
LOL at the tweet
cottovic Victor Cotto
Will Sean Jones join McKenzie in #Raiders front office? Friends w/Reggie, played for s&b & #Packers.. Oak is denying hiring – all good signs
January 20th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Plunk-It Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I would also ask these two questions:
If you take the lead against a high-powered offense by the score of 26 to 14 with 7 minutes left do you try for the 2 pointer or kick the easy PAT to go up 27-14?
If you are on the opponents 5 yard late in the game and its 4th down and 1 and you are leading 24 to 17 do you go for the first down or kick the FG to put the game away?
We know what Huey did.
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I’d like to have a person that is in the position to make that mistake. I figure Huey will learn after never having been in that position before. And if we had a better “D” these mistakes wouldn’t have bit us in the arse.
But, better that than always being behind and having a lousy HC.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
If Reggie is in charge of the HC and everything else football why did it sound like Mark told Reggie to fire Hue?
Wonder if Reg would have kept him.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
This whole coaching vacancy “process” is starting to piss me off.The more things change, The more they stay the same in Oakland. Total B.S.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Hue Jackson traded away the house for Carson Palmer, then went 1-4 down the stretch.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I think Jim Tressel would be a very good NFL head coach. Ohio State is a huge football school, and probably has more fans in the state of Ohio than the Browns and the Bengals combined. He was head of state over there, and did very well. Coached in a ton of big games, turned out a lot of NFL players.
Could he handle an NFL team? I think so. The only question I would have is whether or not he has the connections within the league to build a good staff.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
LOL at the tweet
cottovic Victor Cotto
Will Sean Jones join McKenzie in #Raiders front office? Friends w/Reggie, played for s&b & #Packers.. Oak is denying hiring – all good signs
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Also, notice that Oakland didn’t deny that they were talking to him or considering him, just that they had already hired him. Jones could come on tomorrow and say “Well, I hadn’t actually signed anything yesterday and that’s why the team denied it.”
January 20th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
One Nation
Unda God
January 20th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
I would also ask these two questions:
If you take the lead against a high-powered offense by the score of 26 to 14 with 7 minutes left do you try for the 2 pointer or kick the easy PAT to go up 27-14?
If you are on the opponents 5 yard late in the game and its 4th down and 1 and you are leading 24 to 17 do you go for the first down or kick the FG to put the game away?
We know what Huey did.
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I’d like to have a person that is in the position to make that mistake. I figure Huey will learn after never having been in that position before. And if we had a better “D” these mistakes wouldn’t have bit us in the arse.
But, better that than always being behind and having a lousy HC.
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The stupidest armchair quarterback would know what to do in each case, but Hue who is the head coach of a National Football team did not know what to do. And the argument for having a lousy defense is why he should have went for the 2 pointer and kicked the FG. The Browns game didn’t hurt us, but the Lions game probably cost us the division. We win the Lions game and the Broncos miss the playoffs.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Jim Tressel also knows Tyrelle Pryor.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
The Miami game was the killer.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
HairyBush Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
This whole coaching vacancy “process” is starting to piss me off.The more things change, The more they stay the same in Oakland. Total B.S.
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Nah, I couldn’t see Al interviewing these type of people. He would have found some obscure up and coming coach from somewhere or someone with a big history with the Raiders where he foolheartedly thinks they can coach better now than they did 10 years ago.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
If Reggie f’ks up his first coaching hire after firing a semi-popular Hue Jackson he lose a lot of fans.
The clock is ticking while Reggie interviews stupid losers like Morningwood and Tice.
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Reggie only fired Hue because it was a mandate in order to take the job. I’m sure Reggies ‘gut’ feeling was that he didn’t like it. Welcome back to Oakland.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Hue Jackson traded away the house for Carson Palmer, then went 1-4 down the stretch.
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Sad, but true. Wish you could change history to read “Chuck B and the Defense went 1-4 down the stretch”.
In all fairness and logic, Hue deserved another year with a DC of his choosing.
Our GM wants the new HC to pick his own staff, well, we aint got a HC and assistants are gonna be slim pickins.
Only change that was remotely necessary was a new DC.
Fck it oh dear anyway………smh
January 20th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Morninhweg interviewing with McKenzie today
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Why?
January 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
If Reggie is in charge of the HC and everything else football why did it sound like Mark told Reggie to fire Hue?
Wonder if Reg would have kept him.
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Somebody in the Raidah management could have at least afforded Hue an interview and said, ‘Hue, I know you get a little emotional and excited, but we got to reel you in a bit, OK?’
Hue could have said, ‘cool’, or fck you, I’m outta here. But canning him was harsh, wrong, and typical of what is wrong with this organization.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
McKenzie could’ve even said to Hue “We’re re-evaulating everything. We’d like to interview you and will interview a couple other HCing candidates. We’ll let you know within 2 weeks if we’ll retain you”.
Then wouldn’t have been so stupid if he doesn’t find anyone worthwhile or better.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
McKenzie could’ve even said to Hue “We’re re-evaulating everything. We’d like to interview you and will interview a couple other HCing candidates. We’ll let you know within 2 weeks if we’ll retain you”.
Then wouldn’t have been so stupid if he doesn’t find anyone worthwhile or better.
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There is a good possibility we’ll have down graded at the HC position before all this is said and done.
Hue may not have been perfect, but I believe he had the smarts to learn from his mistakes.
Just cuz we fired him and he is no longer a Raider is no reason to hate on him. Firing him was a mistake. The DC should have been fired.
Another rush to judgement by Raider management.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
146. Yeah they could have retained him for another year if they could find anyone they liked. Instead of looking as dumb as they did in that presser.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Our new HC better command the respect of the locker room, cause typically this is a organization that can mail it in pretty quickly and without to much trouble.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Rotten Fish Stank Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
There is a good possibility we’ll have down graded at the HC position before all this is said and done.
Hue may not have been perfect, but I believe he had the smarts to learn from his mistakes.
Just cuz we fired him and he is no longer a Raider is no reason to hate on him. Firing him was a mistake. The DC should have been fired.
Another rush to judgement by Raider management.
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I don’t think it was just not evaulated really at all. McKenzie really just wanted to “go with someone he knew” and didn’t even look into Hue which I think is a big mistake.
How many of these guys out there that we’re interviewing do you feel more confident will get us to the playoffs than the staff we had with a REAL Defensive Coordinator and scheme?
January 20th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Maybe it’s taking so long because the real candidate for our coaching vacancy is still playing playoff games.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
http://phillysportsdaily.com/eagles/2011/01/11/is-there-any-interest-in-eagles-marty-mornhinweg/
January 20th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
None maverick
January 20th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Oh what the fck.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
The reporters kept asking why McKenzie on what grounds did he fire Hue and he kept stumbling and never gave any sort of an answer at all except it “was his gut” and later “because he wants to bring in “his guy”".
January 20th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
i’ll give my 2cents tomorrow…
January 20th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Uh
January 20th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Al Green told me I was hotter than cooked Grits. Hire me!
January 20th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
The reporters kept asking why McKenzie on what grounds did he fire Hue and he kept stumbling and never gave any sort of an answer at all except it “was his gut” and later “because he wants to bring in “his guy””.
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Well he couldn’t come right out and say it was a directive from command on high. Big mark made me do it.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
155.raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
The reporters kept asking why McKenzie on what grounds did he fire Hue and he kept stumbling and never gave any sort of an answer at all except it “was his gut” and later “because he wants to bring in “his guy””.
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I think he was just trying to not say anything bad about him.
That presser was actually a nice departure from previous Raider coaching fires.
They both seemed annoyed at the continuing questions on regard to Hue. It seemed they were surprised anybody cared.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Don’t have to read very far back to see you in the same boat.
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lefty12 Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Face it,no matter who Reggie decides to hire there will be many on here that won’t like him and will complain to the max.If he hired someone today there will be those that want to know why he didn’t take his time and do a more thorough job.In other words there will always be those that complain because things aren’t done the way they want.Just as there are those who constantly complain because we don’t get the players they want.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
132.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
If Reggie is in charge of the HC and everything else football why did it sound like Mark told Reggie to fire Hue?
Wonder if Reg would have kept him.
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Remember that Mark told the reporter “Ask the guy who fired him” then looked at Reggie. I don’t think Mark would’ve thrown Reggie under the bus like that at his first press conf.
I think this was Reggie wanting to make a statement that “I’m the man now”.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Eat Crow McCoy. Feathers and all.
McKenzie better pick up the pace. There are few good choices out there left. Other teams seem to know what they want and move quickly towards that goal. I understand we want to make the right choice, but sometimes waiting too long leaves you with “whats left” instead of the “right choice”.
I don’t know if anyone has brought him up or not, but what about Jim Caldwell?
January 20th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
J,
6 points and 4 fouls?
Seriously, that dude is garbage.
I’m sure he probably picked up a foul or two, crashing into some guard who was looking to finish below the rim.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
It didn’t seem like that to me. When the reporter asked Mark why Hue was fired Mark said “ask McKenzie, he’s the one who decided”.
McKenzie kept saying it was his choice and he just wanted to come in with his own guy.
I don’t think he really looked into keeping Hue at all. Don’t think he knew much about Hue and didn’t bother looking much into it because he already had a fixed idea wanting to bring in people he knew.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
SEEMS I REMEMBER MORNINHWEG’S WIFE MOUTHING OFF IN THE PRESS ABOUT HER MAN OVER SOMETHING WHEN HE WAS WITH DETRIOT..
January 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
132.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
If Reggie is in charge of the HC and everything else football why did it sound like Mark told Reggie to fire Hue?
Wonder if Reg would have kept him.
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Remember that Mark told the reporter “Ask the guy who fired him” then looked at Reggie. I don’t think Mark would’ve thrown Reggie under the bus like that at his first press conf.
I think this was Reggie wanting to make a statement that “I’m the man now”.
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They just didnt seem to have there story streight.
That move worries me at this point. But maybe others are right. Our guy is still in the playoffs.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I go back to this.
We are all anxious to see who the new coach will be and may be jumping the gun with questioning Reggie.
Admittedly, by trotting out Morninwheg and Tice as potentials…and not hearing anyone real decent, it’s not too exciting.
Does Reggie really need to put everything on hold till Tuesday so he can interview Tice?
January 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Another thought I had, why is he interviewing guys that have had experience with very mobile QBs in the recent past? Last I checked Palmer is our QB, and he is NOT very mobile. Or are we not keeping him? He was a direct Hue guy, and I always wondered what would happen if Hue was not the HC anymore. I would think that the two go hand in hand. Though giving away a first and second for him probably bought him another year or two.
But still, why would we be interviewing guys with experience in offenses based on mobile QBs?
January 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
They both seemed annoyed at the continuing questions on regard to Hue. It seemed they were surprised anybody cared.
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No, they both seemed unprepared. Probably because Mark probably didn’t dig in and let McKenzie decide, and McKenzie didn’t really base it on anything.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Hue said in his interview after he was fired that McKenzie just told him that he wanted to bring in his own guy. Didn’t give him any real explanation, just that he was bringing in his guy.
Kind of goes along with what McKenzie said in the presser. Plus I think I even remember Mark saying something along the lines that changes were taking place and that Hue was just part of that.
So basically, no real reason why Hue was fired, just a casualty of the hostile take over by BigMac. Well, maybe not so hostile…
January 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I was under the impression that Mac wanted his “own” guy? Meaning someone he was close with. Interviewing anyone and everyone means he’s not after his guy, but any guy who’s not Hue.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Okay, let’s say that McKenzie is just passing time now picking people’s brains (I hope that’s the explanation) and who he wants is still in the playoffs (meaning definitely NOT on Packers staff).
Who do we have left?
I think a wild choice might be Chuck Pagano. He did GREAT as the DBs Coach for the Raiders (they were #1 in pass yards against the year he was coach DB coach). He’s now the Defensive Coordinator of one of the top Defenses in the NFL.
Obviously not the Patriots O’Coordinator (he’s going to Penn State).
I wouldn’t really consider anyone on the Giants staff (maybe I’m missing someone I should see).
Maybe the 49ers D-Coordinator Vic Fangio? He’s been around some darned good defenses the last few years and he seemed to do a pretty darned good job there with the 49ers (allowing 2nd least points of any defense in the NFL).
January 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Hue plus a good D cord we win the West next year.
It’s on Scooter and Mongo if we dont make it.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Like he’s not really looking for a HC, but looking at how if we keep Pryor how they utilize mobile QBs. I’m trying to find some(any?) logic to the people he’s talking to. He’s just passing the time, gathering info on that, and then will talk to who he’s really looking for when one of those guys become available….gosh…hope so…
January 20th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
R8rArt Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I was under the impression that Mac wanted his “own” guy? Meaning someone he was close with. Interviewing anyone and everyone means he’s not after his guy, but any guy who’s not Hue.
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I think that was everyone’s impression and why the newspapers ran wild with all those Packers assistants even though he didn’t even interview any of them.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Scooter Davis wanted Hue fired because Hue slapped his propeller hat off his head and told him to shut the f@ck up when he was talking to Trask about bring Palmer in.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Scooter Davis wanted Hue fired because Hue slapped his propeller hat off his head and told him to shut the f@ck up when he was talking to Trask about bring Palmer in.
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A well thought out post…thank you for your contributions…
January 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Anytime
January 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
It just occurred to me this crazy thought. Don’t know if there are rules against how many assistant head coaches you can have but:
Maybe Reggie will hire somebody like Moss as HC and Mornhiweg as OC asst. HC, Bowles DC asst. HC.
The 3 headed monster.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Hope it means Terrelle Pryor our starting QB for 2012.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
151.Just Win Baby Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Maybe it’s taking so long because the real candidate for our coaching vacancy is still playing playoff games.
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I’m sure Reggie will play this card if tomorrow Philbin announces that Clements and Moss/Perry/or Greene are coming with him to Miami.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Hope it means Terrelle Pryor our starting QB for 2012.
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I’d be really shocked if he was. I mean I’d let him challenge Palmer, but I really don’t think so. I mean Palmer will have a really good year next year with an offseason under his belt, keeping in shape and now more familarity with the receivers.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Hope it means Terrelle Pryor our starting QB for 2012.
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Don’t be ridiculous..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Scooter Davis wanted Hue fired because Hue slapped his propeller hat off his head and told him to shut the f@ck up when he was talking to Trask about bring Palmer in.
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Now that is funny!
January 20th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Could find Palmer is worth more for trade value to McKenzie, and knowing he’s rebuilding roster and facing a sub-500 year, could be thinking go with the young guy and see what happens. Also dont know if Palmer is angry with the Hue firing. Also could be about finding cap room.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
doriangray Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
im so anti morninweg it aint funny . why on earth would n.f.l. owner want this dude and guys like brian billick cant get a job ? maybe they know way more than any of us .
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I totally agree with you, but the deal is that Reggie is on a fact finding mission.. He is basically interviewing anyone that will show up so he can hire his coach, then when the coach is hired he can say…”Well, I interviewed these guys too, you might want to take a look at them and see what you think”
Also, Reggie is learning alot of stuff about his competition and the rest of the coaches out there.
The reason the dude from Denver declined to interview was simply because he either thought he was a shoo in for the Miami Job, OR, His agent advised against it..Sometimes guys get interview after interview, but never get the job..eventually Owners are reluctant to hire a guy who has had 6 interviews and no job offers because they think to themselves “Why hasn’t this guy been hired? Am I missing something?”…..
Reggie is doing his due diligence, but its a tough call between getting ANOTHER rookie head coach or a retread head coaching failure…
That is why I think we should have stuck with Hue..and nobody can convince me otherwise.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Serious LOL @ Pryor being the starting QB in 2012.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Lol away. It’s speculation, and it’s as good as any other speculation others are making about whatever else.
If it does come true I’ll LOL back harder.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I wouldn’t take Corkran’s word on how Pryor looks. This is the same person who pushed the anti-DHB wagon so hard all year only to get burned by it repeatedly. And many other predictions and observations.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Could find Palmer is worth more for trade value to McKenzie, and knowing he’s rebuilding roster and facing a sub-500 year, could be thinking go with the young guy and see what happens. Also dont know if Palmer is angry with the Hue firing. Also could be about finding cap room.
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Palmer is a good QB, Period..I don’t mean to be overly contrarian here but there isn’t a chance in hell we go to battle with Pryor as our starting QB next year. Reggie would be laughed out of the NFL if he showed up for next season with his wagon hitched to a total project for a QB, hell, he is a project for a WR….
We are gonna roll with Palmer, make no mistake. A big question is who is going to back him up? Pryor is nothing more than a 3rd at BEST.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
The only word you should take is your own eyes when you see him in pre-season after a full training camp, and THEN we (as in the whole raider nation/blog) can arrive at a consensus of opinion.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Personally, I’d be SHOCKED if Pryor is even the #2 on the depth chart. He’ll likely be the #3, inactive most weeks. Far, far too raw to compete in the NFL at this point. Hell, he never even reached his potential on the collegiate level.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Which HC openings are left?
Just the Raiders and Colts?
Next week, Reggie will be interviewing Hue the way its going.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Moss or Bowles as HC
January 20th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I wouldn’t take Corkran’s word on how Pryor looks. This is the same person who pushed the anti-DHB wagon so hard all year only to get burned by it repeatedly. And many other predictions and observations.
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I don’t take Corks word or evaluation on Talent for anything. That is why I don’t participate in his garbage live chats..he doesn’t know crap about football. I read his words for reports..nothing else. His ‘insight’ is worthless to me.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
The only word you should take is your own eyes when you see him in pre-season after a full training camp, and THEN we (as in the whole raider nation/blog) can arrive at a consensus of opinion.
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Concur 100%
January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
#191…
MikieG, yeah i agree Palmer is a good QB, Pryor is a project, etc etc. Just speculating that we really dont know what could be in the works, how reggie is thinking etc. Just chipped in after someone else keenly observed a lot of HC candidates Reggie is interviewing are OC’s who have experience with mobile QBs. Adding in some extra speculative reasons like reggie knowing he’s facing a sub-500 year, needs picks, needs to rebuild defense, palmer’s cap hit, palmer maybe angry about hue, etc whatever.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
@SI_PeterKing Peter King
Brian Schottenheimer, not Hue Jackson, likely offensive coordinator in St. Louis.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
#196, yeah concur with you there too.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
I wish though Mark had picked a GM with a different name. Every time I see Reggie in print, I keep thinking Reggie Jackson bought the Raiders.
I guess the image will fade in time….
January 20th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
#191…
MikieG, yeah i agree Palmer is a good QB, Pryor is a project, etc etc. Just speculating that we really dont know what could be in the works, how reggie is thinking etc. Just chipped in after someone else keenly observed a lot of HC candidates Reggie is interviewing are OC’s who have experience with mobile QBs. Adding in some extra speculative reasons like reggie knowing he’s facing a sub-500 year, needs picks, needs to rebuild defense, palmer’s cap hit, palmer maybe angry about hue, etc whatever.
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I hear ya man, there is alot of speculation going on. I am just of the opinion that we can’t just start dumping proven talent (Carson, Dmac, Ford) for unproven picks..you just can’t do it..The only way you can do such a thing is if you replace talent WITH talent..ie..You dump Dmac, you better bring in a STUD like Suggs, or Willis, to replace him..If you dump Carson, you Better bring in a somebody who is just as good at his position that we have a NEED for..To trade away our best players just to get a handful of question marks is really dangerous gambling..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Wonder if the Raiders will train at the Marriott this year. Many teams are not even going to camp.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Consider something as primeval as this….Reggie fired Hue, thus Hue’s QB is on the hot-seat too. He will want “his” guy (someone he drafted or someone he already might like the potential of). Could re-sign Campbell, trade Palmer for picks to use on D, Pryor #2 ascending to #1 eventually. etc. Dunno just throwing ideas out there.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
I hope Hue’s mouth didn’t get him Blacklisted in the NFL.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Consider something as primeval as this….Reggie fired Hue, thus Hue’s QB is on the hot-seat too. He will want “his” guy (someone he drafted or someone he already might like the potential of). Could re-sign Campbell, trade Palmer for picks to use on D, Pryor #2 ascending to #1 eventually. etc. Dunno just throwing ideas out there.
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I hear ya loud and clear..Let me ask you..who would You rather have though..Campbell, Palmer, or Pryor?
January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
#202…
MikieG. I agree/understand. But also can agree/understand the alternative. Look at Reggie’s track-record as GM so far — he fired a good talent in Hue purely to hire his “own guy”. Intends to restructure the football dept with his own guys. One could speculate (however unlikely or unwise one might think it is) that Reggie is ok with burning the building to rebuild it, taking a step back (2012) to take three steps in 2013. Reggie was very much involved in the whole drafting style of the packers, finding their own guys, building a dynasty not just rebuilding a roster, all done thru the draft and starting young guys for the most part.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
#204,
That happens and we take a major step backwards becauseit would mean yet another OC and system for JCamp.
HueJax, Reggie McKenzie and everyone on this blog knows we are an adequate DC away from making serious noise this time next year.
And with the SB here in the 504 next year, I pray we are in it.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
#206…
I would start Palmer obviously, Campbell #2, Pryor #3 — until Pryor can match them in weekly training reps. Then I would start that Pryor (the young guy with 10+ years and no losing mentality) over two over the hill QBs.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Another thought I had, why is he interviewing guys that have had experience with very mobile QBs in the recent past? Last I checked Palmer is our QB, and he is NOT very mobile. Or are we not keeping him? He was a direct Hue guy, and I always wondered what would happen if Hue was not the HC anymore. I would think that the two go hand in hand. Though giving away a first and second for him probably bought him another year or two.
But still, why would we be interviewing guys with experience in offenses based on mobile QBs?
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That is a profound observation. If he thinks getting Pryor ready for the 012 saeason is the direction he wants to go, it will be a rough haul.
And, who is Reggies’ guy anyway?
January 20th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
MikieG,
Palmer. And it ain’t even close.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
#202…
MikieG. I agree/understand. But also can agree/understand the alternative. Look at Reggie’s track-record as GM so far — he fired a good talent in Hue purely to hire his “own guy”. Intends to restructure the football dept with his own guys. One could speculate (however unlikely or unwise one might think it is) that Reggie is ok with burning the building to rebuild it, taking a step back (2012) to take three steps in 2013. Reggie was very much involved in the whole drafting style of the packers, finding their own guys, building a dynasty not just rebuilding a roster, all done thru the draft and starting young guys for the most part.
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Yep, your right, and that is why I say that he is seriously putting his reputation and balls on the line to gamble with question marks..
Let me be the first to say that if Reggie gets rid of our talented guys and for every one of them brings in 2 starters, I will be the first to get out my Yoga mat, and declare myself ‘not worthy’ of his genius..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
#208…yeah that’s the ’smart’ thinking. But we just don’t know. Maybe Reggie is well aware 2012 is a wash no matter, and he NEEDS draft picks and plenty of them not just to rebuild the defense, but also cos he loves the whole personnel game, drafting his own players. That would be the reason I would speculate as to WHY reggie might do that if he does that.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Palmer’s by far the best QB we have. Pryor might be able to be a back-up. I wouldn’t totally dump him. But, maybe not. If not, I hope we turn him to WR right away as he does have a hellova freakish athleticism.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
It almost seems like Al is still running things around here….whats up with this ish?!!!
Pick a EFFIN Coach already!!!!
January 20th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Yeah, someone did have astute observation on the interviews tending towards people with mobile QBs that have been developed. Maybe with an eye to the future, although I don’t think it’d be this year. I mean we did give up a 3rd round pick, so if nothing else I’m sure we’d want to make something out of it.
As I mentioned before though I hope these aren’t serious candidates and he has someone in mind still in the playoffs.
Ravens DC Pagano has been running pretty viscious defenses, and was GREAT as our Defensive Back’s coach when he was here.
49ers D-Coordinator also seems to be quite competant. If he’s looking for a defensive-minded head coach those aren’t bad options to look at (because it’s really them that are running the defenses too…it’s not like it’s a defensive minded head coach in those places).
January 20th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
MikieG,
Palmer. And it ain’t even close.
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GG Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
#206…
I would start Palmer obviously, Campbell #2, Pryor #3 — until Pryor can match them in weekly training reps. Then I would start that Pryor (the young guy with 10+ years and no losing mentality) over two over the hill QBs.
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Palmer is Clearly the better QB….What if we are winning and Pryor starts matching them in Reps..you still gonna pull Palmer? Hell no you wouldn’t..Burning your own Defense is one thing..Diagnosing and Burning Defenses that have Schemed for you is an entirely different ball of wax…
Pryor needs to go out for passes..he will never be an NFL QB IMO…but my opinion is no better than Corks..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Palmer’s by far the best QB we have. Pryor might be able to be a back-up. I wouldn’t totally dump him. But, maybe not. If not, I hope we turn him to WR right away as he does have a hellova freakish athleticism.
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Palmer will get us into the post season next year. Pryor has an unconventional throwing style and I wonder can he throw that way being chased in the pros. I hope Reggie and Mark know what the hell they are doing. Just because a person is in a position of power sure doesn’t mean they know what the fck they are doing.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
#212…lol, yeah, everyone’s still unsure about reggie, we cried for so long wanting one, we finally got him, but in this first month of his hire, we’re all unsure what he’s doing, where he’s going, he hasn’t proved anything yet, good or bad, so we can’t second guess him but we’re also scared and questioning, using for the most part common-sense observations, comparing how reggie is doing things so far compared to other orgs, and also worried that we’re still the same old raiders with nepotistic type hirings (moss, jones, etc) not sure about whether that breeds accountability, still operating like Al were here with media denials, iron curtains, etc.
wont be too long tho before we get a better feel for reggie with his coaching hires.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I’d like to see what Pryor can do in the pre-season at QB. If he look horrible then give him a DVD cut-up of every snap Jimmy Graham played this season and go from there.
Or just have him watch the replay of Saints/49ers game from last week to see that clinic Graham and Vernon Davis put on.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
reg said he wanted his guys that could indicate he wants to hire hc oc dc and so on ..with moss knowing he is the guy .all these other guys think their up for hc but reg is looking at assistant coachs on the down low . maybe or i could just be full of sheet .there has to be a reason he hasnt made a move tho,i dont think its indecision
January 20th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Don’t get me wrong though, I really wish Carson was more mobile. I mean you see it with alot of QB’s nowadays..There is no way in Hell Carson would have been able to run, let alone score on that QB sweep that Alex took to the house last weekend..and how many times have we seen Rogers evade pressure..dudes a good running QB..
Carson is of the Brady, Manning, Manning, Collins model..the Defense knows where they are going to set up, but they get the ball out so fast it doesn’t matter..
It really just depends on what kind of O you run..
January 20th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
@RaiderNewsFlashOaklandRaidersNews
@JDJohnDickinson Winston Moss is the Raiders head Coach. Reggie likes to see whats out there but he knows who he is hiring
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January 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
imaquaman Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
reg said he wanted his guys that could indicate he wants to hire hc oc dc and so on ..with moss knowing he is the guy .all these other guys think their up for hc but reg is looking at assistant coachs on the down low . maybe or i could just be full of sheet .there has to be a reason he hasnt made a move tho,i dont think its indecision
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Yeah, doesn’t fit…I’ll explain why:
1. The HC would bring in the assistants…but more importantly
2. The people he’s hiring couldn’t be hired by us for any other capacity than Head Coach. An Offensive Coordinator can’t switch teams if they’re under contract unless they become a HC. So those guys aren’t options for us on our staff unless it’s for HC.
If McKenzie were really doing that he’d interview QB coaches, position coaches etc. that could be moved up to OC or DC. but he’s not.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
@RaiderNewsFlashOaklandRaidersNews
I will be flying to Oakland on Saturday, I just want to be close for the announcement which will happen in the next 7 days at some point
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Found this twit on twitter too.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
I wont hate on people who ‘hate’ pryor, see him as a WR or Arena QB only, etc. But i DO hope/insist/extol that everyone (haters or lovers) at least wait till we see him ourselves in meaningful pre-season action before we break down his game with all our own observations and gradually build a consensus of him.
On an earlier question…yeah, if Pryor is matching the ability and playbook knowledge that Palmer/Campbell are showing at some point in 2012, that’s when he’s ready to start and I’d bench the older QBs for sure. Because THAT pryor would be a major weapon then, feet and hands, and has 10 years ahead of him, so why waste time on Palmer/Campbell by then.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Smee Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
@RaiderNewsFlashOaklandRaidersNews
@JDJohnDickinson Winston Moss is the Raiders head Coach. Reggie likes to see whats out there but he knows who he is hiring
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If it’s true it’s stupid he’s waiting this long. He should’ve gotten his interviews over with FAST to “get a feel” and then hired Moss. We’re losing valuable people who could be hired as part of our coaching staff who other teams are signing up now (like Spags for Defensive Coordinator)
January 20th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Well, My cough medicine is kicking in kids, I gotta roll into some R.E.M sleep, plus I got my son snoring on my shoulder right now..
#219–Couldn’t agree more. Gonna be a Looooong offseason, but I tell ya, if Reggie is thinking rebuild in 2012 instead of re-load, were going to have to put some Raider fans on suicide watch…
January 20th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
@CorkOnTheNFLSteve Corkran
Now that Joe Philbin is headed to Miami, will he attempt to bring along some of his former Packers coaching mates? The race is on, Reggie.
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More twit.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
#225
next 7 days means he still wants to interview guys currently in the playoffs ?/!
January 20th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Night, MikieG
January 20th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
224 he’s got to have a plan ,if it were just m davis that hired him i’d really be sweating him ,but john madden has enough credibility and he was there to give the thumbs up so im not too worried i just wish he’d flippin sheet or get off the pot
January 20th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I think we might be allowed to interview coaches during the bye between the AFC/NFC Championships and the Superbowl. Hope so if that’s what he’s looking for.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
****** To the tune of “Ms. Jackson.” ******
[Mark Davis]
Yeah this one right here goes out to all the Raiders coaches, coaches …
Coaches, coaches, buenos noches, coaches
Yeah, go like this
I’m sorry Hue Jackson [OOOH]
I am for real
Never liked you since my father died
I wanted to hire my own guy
I’m sorry Hue Jackson [OOOH]
I am for real
Never liked you since my father died
I wanted to hire my own guy
[Reggie McKenzie]
I been through Brett Favre drama, in Green Bay
He’d be doing things like showing up at Lambeau for a scrimmage with Deanna watching Rodgers play
McCarthy told him, “Brett you are no longer the guy, now get the hell out”
That’s Ted’s house – he overhauled the roster but didn’t sell out
Now I’m in Oaktown so get ready, cause I’m the GM
Al is gone, Amy’s here, we all know I’m “The BM”
I love your plays and formations, but see yours is the team that laid down
You wanna rip your guys cause you can’t take anymore, then throw the mic down
And then you went Al Haig
You said, “I am gonna take charge” – you got excited
Gave up a first and second
For Carson Palmer – you were delighted
Despite it, we still got our asses kicked by Fox and Tebow
Fool’s gold, though we share the same agent you got to go, yeah
I’m sorry Hue Jackson [OOOH]
I am for real
Gonna give some boring coach a try
Now it’s time for you to say goodbye
You’re fired Hue Jackson
That is the deal
Gonna give some boring coach a try
Now it’s time for you to say goodbye
[Mark Davis]
Me and my father … had a special thang goin on
You thought he dogged me out (arf arf arf)
Now I am King Kong (ARF ARF WOOF!)
People thought Al would … run this team forever
You can draw a pretty game plan
but you can’t predict the weather, Hue Jackson
Now this team is mine, you think I’m lyin’? Fine
You should be muzzled ‘cause you’re smarter and you’re on the grind
With Reggie, I foresee dynasty, together dream
bout that ring Winston Moss will bring
back to Oaktown, it goes down – can’t wait ‘till September
Remember to rev the blender, another bender?
Bartender where’s the mirror? Oh my, my hair has grown
And Edward Scissorhands is my barber, please keep it long
Hue Jackson my dad thought you were good, I wish I could
enter a time machine and hire John Madden like Aladdin
A genie, it would be, a party
And Marinovich back there brewin’ his herbal tea
Dad, I didn’t like the way you treated me, bad
Now those days are over and I’m a be, rad
So know this, know that I filled your role
And yes I will be present to wave to the Black Hole
And at draft meetings
I’m sorry Hue Jackson [OOOH]
I am for real
Never liked you since my father died
I wanted to hire my own guy
I’m sorry Hue Jackson [OOOH]
I am for real
Never liked you since my father died
I wanted to hire my own guy
[Reggie McKenzie]
Uh, uh, yeah
“Look at the way Mark did me”
Shoot, this decision was Reggie’s
You see your big-mouth comments to the press
done got your butt sent back to Cincy
Without employment, and no enjoyment
I had to kick you out
Now you ain’t buildin’ a bully no more
cause I’m what it’s all about
You know what I’m talking about Carson P., T.J. Houshmand-Z, DMC
Kiffin to Cable, 8 and 8 record you got the same thing
So who you placin’ the blame on, you keep on singin the same song
Let bygones be bygones, you can go on and get the hell on
You and your bully
I’m sorry Hue Jackson [OOOH]
I am for real
Gonna give some boring coach a try
Now it’s time for you to say goodbye
You’re fired Hue Jackson
That is the deal
Gonna give some boring coach a try
Now it’s time for you to say goodbye …
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_friday_offerings_49ers_saints_playoffs_011312#silver_lyric
January 20th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Mike Silver for H.C Mike Mayoc for O.C and Mike Singletery for D.C.
Step up to the MIKE biotch!!!
January 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
I would love to know what Reggie’s gut thinks about all this.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Hello.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
The only reason McNigga wont hire Moss is cause he is Black.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Djohnnyg what’s good big Dawg
This place ain’t the same without you.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
John Tweedy, that’s obvious but what else do you think is the reason that it’s taking so long?
January 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I think we might be allowed to interview coaches during the bye between the AFC/NFC Championships and the Superbowl. Hope so if that’s what he’s looking for.
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Would like to see Reggie interview Perry Fewell – DC of the Giants.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH BABY #234
Dude, you sh.t is brain garbage. I always appreciate a rymthed entry with music behind it, but yours is trash. Please try again.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Alrighty…..here we go w/Alzheimer’s AL and his stanky stuff……entitled, “Revolving Coaches” (Please sing to the melody of “Green Acres” TV show.
AL’s folly is for all to see,
Oakland Raiders is the team for me,
Coaches spreading out so far and wide,
Keep hiring and firing, just give me those days gone by.
Coach upon coach is what I’d rather do,
Dementia and inconsistency is the cardinal rule,
AL just adores paying coaches half the price,
Dah-Ling I love you, but AL’s fantasy is not-so-nice.
Vertical attack, 1969
Man to man, mighty fine,
Revolving Coaches, aint so cool…..
AL knows best, nobody’s fool….
You are AL’s life,
Cable’s gone, now Jackson’s his wife,
Oakland Raiders We Are There!
January 20th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Al Saunders would be a better hire than these bums McNigga in dating.
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You’re the bum! Ignorant ass
January 20th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Too bad Travis LaBoy didn’t deliver the ultimate knock out blow this past week to the slug Campbell so Monkey AL would have to place the reincarnation of Jim Plunkett on the IR….hmmm…..lost for the season….how sad, lol, put a slug out of its misery.
K…..sooo…here we go…”Ode to Alzheimers AL” (please sing this to the melody of the Beverly Hillbillies’ theme song):
Come ‘n listen to my story ’bout Alzheimers AL
A shadow of himself, at the moon he would howl,
And then one day, dreamin of days gone by
Purple Drank appeared causing AL to sigh,
JaDumbarse, that is, black gold, BamaBoy…
Well, the first thing you know, AL’s 2 and 14
Nother seasons gone by, AL still has a dream,
Told ole Lance Californy is a place you ought’nt be
So Lance loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee
Hollywood..vertical attack, man-on-man, 1969…..
So AL’s still thinkin its 1969,
With a vertical attack everything’ll be fine
And Big AL know alls he gotta do, grab a Plunkett incarnate name of Campbell boo…
After 6 long quarters Campbells a slug,
ALs frothin at the mouth while Cable pulls the plug,
Overhead projectors burnin a hole, better turn AL out fore he has em all on the dole.
Well, now it’s time to say goodbye to AL and all his kin,
AL would like to thank you folks for kindly droppin’ in
Insanity and alzheimers, superbowls and gin.
You’re all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of AL’s hospitality
Dementia, that is, set a spell, take your shoes off
Y’all come back now, hear?
January 20th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
We should at least talk to David Shaw head coach of the Standford Cardinals. SF seemed to do really well with Harbaugh.
Mac doesn’t need to act like a bag lady rummaging through stinking dumpsters for garbage and cast-offs. We need to hire someone who has coached in the NFL or at least in the NCAAF. We don’t someone too long in the tooth with a losing record.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
I believe McKenzie knows and has told Moss he will be the HC.I wouldn’t be surprised if Moss and/or McKenzie haven’t had contact with the guys they want as DC and OC.What I’d like to see is lists of FA from teams where RM is conducting interviews.What better way to get an idea of the mindset of a player than to interview the coaches who coached them.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
I have a GUT feeling, the fkn 49ers are going to win win the Super Bowl. Ugh i hate it so much. I have alot of Niner facebook friends, and there starting to get on my nerves now. The whole “Who got it better than us” is killin me!!!!!
January 20th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
248 thats why they play the game ,cause it aint over till its over,,,,,but i think i agree
January 21st, 2012 at 12:02 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
John Tweedy, that’s obvious but what else do you think is the reason that it’s taking so long?
Cause it ain’t good at what he is doing. Small Brain = poor performance.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:06 am
A yo Real Talk my nigs I am not a member of dat scht Sock Pupet Army bru bru that ish be wack man itz for House Jigars real talk
January 21st, 2012 at 6:56 am
I see the matchup really working in the Giants favor tomorrow.
The thing the 49ers do really well (stop the run) the Giants could give a crap about.
The NYG were dead last in the NFL in rushing yards per game and ypc. In fact, their YPC average of 3.5 yards is the worst in the NFL in the last 3 years. So if the Giants can’t run the ball, it is business as usual.
On the flip side, what the Giants don’t do well, play defense and stop the pass (27th in total defense, 26th in scoring D, 29th in passing D) the 49ers don’t do well, and won’t be able to exploit it as the Giants are used to seeing weekly.
Giants 27 49ers 17
January 21st, 2012 at 7:00 am
JFB,
Glad you checked in.
It was SIX (6) hours between posts.
That’s the least active I’ve ever seen this place.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:01 am
I guess Marty Moronwig doesn’t move the meter, lol
January 21st, 2012 at 7:03 am
The Senior bowl and all the other all-star bowls will not be as fun to watch without draft picks this year.
Pretty bummed about it.
By this time, I am usually working on a mock draft (had Wiz and D Moore in mine last year), digging in on certain players, etc..
Now? Not even sure if I will do one.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:08 am
I will be looking at mid round picks at TE, because I believe Reggie really values having multi-use TE’s, and all our guys seem like one trick ponies.
Boss can catch, but can’t block as good as Myers. Myers can block, but is not athletic enough to push the field. Ausberry can stretch the field, but can’t block and has inconsistant hands.
We will be picking a TE, with one of our top 2 or 3 picks.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:09 am
Well at least u can tune in to listen to all the prognosricors critcize the Raiders for not being in the draft.
We need a new coaching rumor to liven this place up.
Do we really have to wait for Reggie to interview Tice?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:14 am
Mike Tice, lol.
The Bears O-line has been a mess for years.
I appreciate McKenzie’s desire to do his due-dilligence and not hurry into anything, but fkn Moronwig and Mike Tice?
A couple of meatheads!!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:15 am
I’m for that JFB.
Palmer could use a good TE option for those big 3rd downs…and for blocking.
We need to protect him.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:16 am
Well, I have to go to work today.
I’m sure it’ll pick up in here as the day goes by.
Have a good one.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:25 am
Working in the AM on a Saturday.
Booooooooo!!!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:33 am
From an article about the Haley wire-tapping accusation, quoting this part with emphasis on the last couple sentences…
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In Kansas City’s case, tapping the coach’s phone hardly seems worthwhile: they stink. And yet, a veil of secrecy and a devotion to uniformity seems to have worked for the Patriots. Some out-of-town reporters in Foxboro last weekend grumbled that the Patriots never say anything of interest. (Deion Branch, who spent time out of the New England organization before returning, was a notable exception.) There has been none of the boasting that has marked the Giants playoff run, which lends at least some credence to a connection between rigid corporate discipline and organizational success. Ask the Jets.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:34 am
I work at a radio station so i’ll probably be jumping on to see if anythings happened anyway.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:37 am
I think Reggie already has his guys in mind and isn’t too concerned that they’ll be scooped up.
At least that’s what i’m hoping. lol
If he’s just winging it with no clear cut HC in mind, then that explains the Tice and Morninhweg interviews.
Or he’s eyeing someone in the playoffs, cause i don’t understand the 2-3 day lapse in interviews.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:40 am
The Giants weren’t too concerned about losing Boss in the offseason. They offered a fair contract and he walked.
This 2nd year kid Ballard filled his shoes just fine, with 600 yds and 4 TD’s.
Heard he’s questionable this weekend with a sore knee, but stated he’s not going to miss this game.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:44 am
If he knows who his HC should be, he should hire him immediately if not sooner.
Offseason is only so long, you need as many days as possible with the staff, IMO.
Unless Mike Tice is a serious candidate to be a HC, and I sure in the hell hope not, it just seems like a waste of time.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:48 am
Mush, who do you like?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:51 am
I agree JFB, if he is certain his guy is Moss, Capers or whoever, than he shouldn’t be lolly gagging around.
We have a roster that that needs to be evaluated and the college ranks as well.
Most teams are already evaluating Free Agency players and college prospects now. We’re still looking for an entire staff.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:52 am
When we signed Boss, I went to a NY Giants blog just like this one, and the Giants fans had a link where he lead the NFL TE’s in drops, and said he had concussion issues.
When I brought it up in here, people brushed it off.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:52 am
How is this good for Rams fans? I know they have at least one. My ex-wife. Well screw it play them all over there.
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LONDON — The St. Louis Rams took the first step to becoming Britain’s “home” team Friday, agreeing to play a regular-season NFL game in London in each of the next three seasons.
And first up are the New England Patriots, who are two wins from another Super Bowl title.
The Rams and Patriots meet at Wembley on Oct. 28, about two months after the closing ceremony of the London Olympics. That will be followed by games at Wembley against undetermined opponents in 2013 and 2014.
The Rams are owned by Stan Kroenke, who is also the majority shareholder in the English soccer club Arsenal. The team will give up home games in St. Louis for the three seasons they are in London.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:56 am
So we can hire anybody at any level to become our head coach.
We can’t hire a OC, DC or position coach still under contract for a lateral move, correct?
What OC’s and DC’s are on the open market this offseason?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:02 am
JFB, you are a bit of a know it all, no?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:05 am
I hope Oakland doesn’t get involved in this international game in the future.
It’s bad enough they can’t adapt to just a 3 hour difference on the east coast.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:06 am
1. Deja vu Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:56 am
So we can hire anybody at any level to become our head coach.
We can’t hire a OC, DC or position coach still under contract for a lateral move, correct?
What OC’s and DC’s are on the open market this offseason?
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We can hire anyone we want as HC. We could hire the peanut salesman out of the stands as HC. Which I think we have done at least once. See Mike White.
To hire for a lateral move. I think only if the team is willing to let him out of his contract. I don’t know how many of these contracts are year to year. It seems from the talk in here all our coaches were on a one year deal except Hue.
For your last question. Hue Jackson if the only one I know of.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:08 am
JFB, you are a bit of a know it all, no?
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I do my research.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:11 am
raiders gotta hurry up & hire a coach be4 we completely lose it on this blog . soon well be disscusing what is the best toilet tissue to buy . i prefer charmin .
January 21st, 2012 at 8:11 am
Thanks Don for clearing that up.
So the chances are we will get denied like NY did last year. I don’t see any team allowing us to gut their staff.
Worst case scenerio is hope Saunders doesn’t sign on with another team and retain him for OC this year.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:16 am
#276: Just stay away from those budget brands…Rip you to shreds.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:18 am
Worst case scenerio is hope Saunders doesn’t sign on with another team and retain him for OC this year.
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I have to wonder with his reputation if Scooter and Mongo hadnt talk to him already about staying. It seems he would have been picked up already by another team. But I could be wrong.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:18 am
Further to post #278: Doesn’t impress lady guests either.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:19 am
You should do some research on your flaws.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:19 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:16 am
#276: Just stay away from those budget brands…Rip you to shreds.
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ScoTissue used to be the strongest stuff you could buy. Now they make it so thin that it takes double the amount to get the job done.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:20 am
Don’t they call Canadian toilet paper “John Wayne paper”?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:23 am
#279: I’m also worried about losing Saunders. He’s the perfect OC for our skill set on offense. Palmer’s strengths are very similar to Kurt Warner’s, DMAC’s to Faulk’s and we have lots of speed at WR. A “Greatest show on turf” style offense would be perfect for us.
Don’t want to lose Wylie either…Great line coach.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:27 am
#282 and #283: My old workplace had this industrial stuff that could pull a car. Edges were like razor blades.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:28 am
283.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:20 am
Don’t they call Canadian toilet paper “John Wayne paper”?
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I was told because it’s rough and tough and doesnt take $hit off of nobody.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:30 am
#286: LMAO…The Duke is an icon…Word is he was one nasty SOB when he was drinking.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:32 am
Funny…I just watched “True Grit” (the original) and “Rooster Cogburn” within the last week. Gotta love cable.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:33 am
Reports are in that Jim Tressell may get the HC gig at Indy. Wonder if he will stick with Luck or make a play for Pryor?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:36 am
#289: I really hope for your sake that was sarcasm Aig. With all the changes in Indy I can really see Peyton in NY next season.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:41 am
Well, got to go. Tacos and beer today…Better go get some Charmin Kitten-soft first.
Go Ravens!…Go Giants!
January 21st, 2012 at 8:41 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:36 am
#289: I really hope for your sake that was sarcasm Aig. With all the changes in Indy I can really see Peyton in NY next season.
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The elephant in the room is the $28 million bonus they either pay Peyton or watch him become an unrestricted FA. That’s a lot of money to dish out to someone who hasn’t even practiced in almost a year, and has no timetable for when he might play again.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:45 am
Exactly RaiderDuck. By dumping his salary the Colts can get some much needed help in other areas as well. That team has a bunch of holes to fill. Great as Peyton’s been it’s time to move on to the Luck era.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:58 am
Canuck,
Tressell was so in love with Pryor that he basically ruined his legacy at Ohio bending over backward for that kid. Who knows. Stranger things have happened before. he can trade the Luck pick for a bunch of players and picks and win with Pryor. He knows Pryor best.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:01 am
Everyone blasted Houston for passing on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams at the time. I was in that group too. But that turned out to be a genius move. I wouldnt be surprised if Indy spurns Luck for another player and picks.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:04 am
aig-raiders Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:01 am
Everyone blasted Houston for passing on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams at the time. I was in that group too. But that turned out to be a genius move. I wouldn’t be surprised if Indy spurns Luck for another player and picks.
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They’re idiots if they do. Luck is considered the most “sure-thing” QB since Peyton and Elway. You don’t blow off someone like that.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:10 am
Oh, goody!
January 21st, 2012 at 9:12 am
I get to jump online while i’m playing the ‘Classic Rock That Really Rocks’.
97theeagle.net if u wanna listen to me live.
I’ll send out a special shout out to the Nation if u guys want.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:12 am
Anyone mind if I take the rest of the day off work?
January 21st, 2012 at 9:12 am
967theeagle.net
*correction*
January 21st, 2012 at 9:13 am
298
That URL didnt work.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:14 am
ok there we go.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:15 am
Are you Johnny Rude?
January 21st, 2012 at 9:15 am
Got a request Don?
January 21st, 2012 at 9:17 am
Johnny Walker. U have to click on “Weekend Losers” or something like that.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:21 am
Yeah! Read your Bio. LOL! Funny stuff. Cant connect to the live stream. Keeps fairing. Could be my work network not letting me in.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:23 am
Why do I find myself trying to find every good thing I can think of about Mike Tice?
Having trouble finding much good about Marty Morninwheg except he was the Eagle’s OC.
Can’t get over that whole 5-27 thing.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:27 am
Yeah…5-27 would bring us right back to post-Gruden.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:28 am
Thanks Don, It shouldn’t be messing up like that. We’re supposed to be promoting the online thing. Maybe it is on your end but it could be us.
I made up the Joan Jett thing. Then I found out she outed herself.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:29 am
I think “Al Davis” would be a great fake radio name.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:36 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:23 am
Why do I find myself trying to find every good thing I can think of about Mike Tice?
Having trouble finding much good about Marty Morninwheg except he was the Eagle’s OC.
Can’t get over that whole 5-27 thing.
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I have no doubt Reggie and Morhninweg spent a good hour or two on that record alone.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
I didn’t wake up to Marty Morningwood this morning.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
Dakota Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
122.RaiderLen Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
If Tressel or Childress get hired by the Colts, the Raiders should try to get their second round pick in return for McFadden.
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Colts would make that deal.
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Yeah, trade our best player for a 2nd round pick in a weak draft and when our other RB is a free agent.
That’s the ticket!
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What an awful idea.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:04 am
aig-raiders Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:01 am
Everyone blasted Houston for passing on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams at the time. I was in that group too. But that turned out to be a genius move. I wouldn’t be surprised if Indy spurns Luck for another player and picks.
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They’re idiots if they do. Luck is considered the most “sure-thing” QB since Peyton and Elway. You don’t blow off someone like that.
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Yeah. Colts will not pass on Luck. Best QB prospect in probably 29 years (since Elway, don’t think Manning was even this highly regarded considering it was probably a 60-40 split on those debating Manning vs. Leaf).
Passing on a somewhat undersized back who had a great college career but with the benefit of playing on a loaded team is not the same as passing on a possible once in a generation QB prospect. If I’m the Colts, it’d probably take three 1st rounders and two 2nd rounders to even think about parting with the chance to pick Luck. And even then I’d be stuck on thinking about what Manning meant to the franchise for the last decade+ and do I really want to part with this pick at any price.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:23 am
Having trouble finding much good about Marty Morninwheg except he was the Eagle’s OC.
Can’t get over that whole 5-27 thing.
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If this will make you feel better, he had Charlie Batch and Joey Harrington as his Q’s. Coincedentally, Hue Jackson took over with Harrington in Atl, and couldn’t do ANYTHING with him either. Steve Mariucci followed Mohrinweg and didn’t do much better. Then came Rod Marinelli and an 0-16 season. What I am saying is no one seemed to do very well with the personnel they had over there.
But Andy Reid hired him, he has been in Phila 10 years, and they seem to have perennial playoff teams year in and year out, whether it is Donavon McNabb, Kevin Kolb or Mike Vick at the Q. And notice how no one has won with Mcnabb after he left Philly.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
# wasbanned Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
I didn’t wake up to Marty Morningwood this morning.
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Try that Omega 3 stuff.
A popsicle stick and rubberband always work for me.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:45 am
Moss at Hc and Bowles at Dc or vice versa. Maybe Capers at DC and if saunders isnt retained then get Pete from the saints to be OC. Keep Wylie and give rod another shot. Having bowles and rod working on the defense coule be a plus. And spray bresnahans office with febreeze and burn his chair and get a brand new one
January 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
#315,
True to all that.
I’m sure if it goes down that Marty’s the man then we will all find stuff to make us all feel better about it.
Me included.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:53 am
No one could win with Joey Harrington as their Q, and Charlie Biotch was no better. McNabb left him and is barely hanging on in the league, Vick walks out of prison and becomes the new Johnnie U. There has to be something to what Mohrinweg is selling.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:55 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:48 am
#315,
True to all that.
I’m sure if it goes down that Marty’s the man then we will all find stuff to make us all feel better about it.
Me included.
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Yeah, I guess I just consider that a truely top coach will always find ways to win by putting his personnel into the best positions to win.
Too many radical turn arounds on teams to discount that a good coach can make that happen.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:55 am
But wasnt reid calling all the plays?
January 21st, 2012 at 10:09 am
Reggie could be thinking long term with Marty..or short.
If Pryor is in the plans to be groomed as starter sometime soon, Reg could be looking at Marty’s work with Vick as evidence of what he would/could do with Pryor.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:11 am
Wonder if Mike McCoy regrets blowing off the interview now.
I bet he hates Miami now.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:15 am
As much as we say it comes down to the players so much, the niner turn around is certainly something to point to for making a case for how dramatic a change can happen with the right coach.
Does anybody think SF would be one game away from the SB if Singletary were still there?
(BTW. I hate SF just as much as anybody in here)
January 21st, 2012 at 10:17 am
@ Chris and Raiderduck,
I like Luck ALOT but there is no sure thing in the NFL, especially at the QB positions.
The % is extremely low. The only sure thing in sports that is decent is the NBA. You looked at guys like Shaq, DHoward, and LeBron and you knew they were sure things. The NFL is an entirely different animal at the QB position. There are so many things that has to go right for the QB to be successful and a lot of it is out of his hands.
I like Luck a lot but he is far from a sure thing for me.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:18 am
POST-319,SOUNDS LIKE U R TRY’N 2 CONVINCE YOURSELF.I THINK HE IS A GOOD COACH ALSO.NOT SURE ABOUT HEADCOACH..
January 21st, 2012 at 10:21 am
Hah….Rams just hired Brian Schottenheimer as OC….What happened Hue? Even the lowly Rams passed on him for a lousy Schottenheimer.
Back to college Hue.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:21 am
POST-324,THE 9ER TURNAROUND TO ME SAYS MORE ABOUT THE PLAYER’S THAN THE COACH.SAME TEAM BASICALLY.THEY R PLAY’N NOW BUT WOULD NOT 4 SINGELTARY.2DAYS PLAYERS DONT TAKE 2 DISCEPLINE IMO..
January 21st, 2012 at 10:23 am
GOOD DAY 2 ALL BY THE WAY..
January 21st, 2012 at 10:23 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:11 am
Wonder if Mike McCoy regrets blowing off the interview now.
I bet he hates Miami now.
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He’s got no one to blame but himself, the fool.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
aig-raiders Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:21 am
Hah….Rams just hired Brian Schottenheimer as OC….What happened Hue? Even the lowly Rams passed on him for a lousy Schottenheimer.
Back to college Hue.
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After he looked at the knives in Cable’s, Soup’s and Mark Davis’s backs, Fisher probably decided he didn’t need the aggravation…
January 21st, 2012 at 10:27 am
330.RaiderDuck Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:23 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:11 am
Wonder if Mike McCoy regrets blowing off the interview now.
I bet he hates Miami now.
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He’s got no one to blame but himself, the fool.
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He might get a look elsewhere. But if he asks if he can reschedule his interview the Raider should require Herrera gives him the Mark Davis bowl cut before he sits down with Reggie.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
The Raiders need a head coach…not an offensive coordinator. Hue Jackson is an ok coordinator…but can’t do jack about getting a team ready to play.
Glad he was fired and rightfully so. Team went into the tank down the stretch and his much vaunted offense scored was held to 20 or fewer points in three of the last 5 games – with everything on the line.
Hurt our ability to get better by trading draft picks for an aging QB with big question marks.
And then was not focused enough on winning games.
Get me a head coach, I don’t care what his background. Jon Harbaugh is a former Special Teams coach…..just get a leader of men..someone that won’t put up with leading the league in penalties, have his team ready and will minimize the B.S off the field.
Keeping Hue would have been a disaster
January 21st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Tommy Kelly and Kamerion Wimbley are on the watch list….one of them will have to go
January 21st, 2012 at 10:45 am
Brian Schottenheimer beat out Hue Jackson for OC job for the Rams.
Hue is having a bad few weeks.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:47 am
Hue kight become oc for either denver or kc i sure hope not
January 21st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Funny how you stupid Raider fans blame Hue and not Al Davis and his defensive coordinator from 2001.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:55 am
336.BewareofRaiders Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:47 am
Hue kight become oc for either denver or kc i sure hope not
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That would be bad. I think Atlanta would be a good fit for Hue as OC. Their offense needs a spark.
Or Hue can go back to college and take over for Tedford at Cal. Tedford is ruining that program to the ground! Tedford should have been fired two years ago.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:58 am
Hue is a good OC just not a good HC if anything reggie shouldve just demoted him back to OC and find a HC
January 21st, 2012 at 10:58 am
SharkCatcher Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Funny how you stupid Raider fans blame Hue and not Al Davis and his defensive coordinator from 2001.
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Being a Raider fan can be exhausting and draining at times.
These fcks get under your skin and there is no getting rid of it.
I hope the new coach has some staying power and builds his team around what we got, not what he thinks we should be. Hope the coach is Moss cause there doesn’t appear to be much out there.
Want a HC with some attitude. A coach that doesn’t need to buddy up with the players, and one who isn’t afraid to let go or bench someone for fckin up, on or off the field.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:59 am
If Moss gets the HC gig, than it will be critical for him to hire GOOD Coordinators.
On offense he will need to keep Saunders as OC, or bring in Pack QB coach Clements as OC.
On defense, I think he will look to get Pack DLine coach Dan Trgovac or maaaaaaaybe secondary coach Darren Perry as the DC.
I also would like to see Bowles be considered as the DC here and Ravens LB coach and former Pats DC Dean Pees be looked at also.
I would prefer to see Bowles, Trgovac or Pees as DC’s under Moss, ahead of Perry.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
#333, you hit the nail on the head. I went to UOP with Hue, actually kinda liked him and his fiery personality… but still wasn’t too disappointed when he got the axe. Leader of men is exactly it. I’m tired of coordinators who get HC jobs just because they had some OC or DC success. Bring in a guy who can motivate his team, and bring on a successful staff to run the O, D and ST.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
337.SharkCatcher Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Funny how you stupid Raider fans blame Hue and not Al Davis and his defensive coordinator from 2001.
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Oh yeah. There are plenty of idiot Raiders “fans” in here without a doubt. It’s disturbing.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:03 am
If Moss gets the HC gig, than it will be critical for him to hire GOOD Coordinators.
On offense he will need to keep Saunders as OC, or bring in Pack QB coach Clements as OC.
On defense, I think he should look to get Pack DLine coach Dan Trgovac or maaaaaaaybe secondary coach Darren Perry as the DC. I don’t like Perry as a DC at this point of his coaching career however.
I would like to see Bowles be heavily considered as the DC here and Ravens LB coach and former Pats DC Dean Pees be looked at also.
I would prefer to see Bowles, Trgovac or Pees as DC’s under Moss, ahead of Perry thats’ for sure.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Hope that RegMac runs out of auditioning from the heap pile. Hiring Morninhweg for HC would be a serious disaster. I don’t care if Marty was born on a bench in Lake Merritt, he sucks worst than Hue.
What’s up RegMac? Stop foolin’ around the crap and get serious about the Raiders.
Better get it done Reg or you’re going to be seriously laughed out of OakTown.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:13 am
Jim Tressel gets 2nd interview with Colts
January 21st, 2012 at 11:15 am
wasbanned Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:13 am
Jim Tressel gets 2nd interview with Colts
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Have we done any ‘2nd interviews’ yet?
January 21st, 2012 at 11:17 am
347. Have they admitted to doing any first interviews?
January 21st, 2012 at 11:21 am
I really hope Hue ends up an OC in our division, but I don’t think he will.
Would love for the Chiefs to taint their clubhouse with that hack, who undoubtedly would leave for one reason or another in 1-2 years, and they would start over again.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:22 am
My guess Mongo and Moss struck a deal before Mongo flew out here. Mongo is interviewing guys for there staff to recommend to Moss. But he is doing most of this to look like he turned every stone and gain info on players and how other teams do things.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:23 am
I wouldn’t mind seeing Vic Fangio or Chuck Pagano getting a shot at HC. Both of them coach top, hard hitting defenses. Players seem to play hard for them also. Hopefully McK’s taking his time because he’s waiting for them to become available.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:24 am
SharkCatcher Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Funny how you stupid Raider fans blame Hue and not Al Davis and his defensive coordinator from 2001.
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I don’t blame Hue for Chucky B, I blame Hue for not doing something ABOUT Chucky B
January 21st, 2012 at 11:24 am
If “Mongo” is taking co-ordinators from other jobs, interviewing them under the guise as HC candidates to be able to speak with them without consent from their current teams, but really is just interviewing for other staff positions, that is highly illegal by NFL rules and would probably cost us draft picks.
Let’s hope to tell that isn’t what’s going on.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:24 am
I wonder where Mike Waufle is gonna fit in the new staff? DC? DL/AHC?
January 21st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Undercover cops will be dressing up as Giants fans at Candlestick during the game. That’s funny. I wonder if they would have the balls to do that at a Raider game. Hilarious.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:32 am
Just a question… how many interviews has Moss had with other teams for their HC position?? I think its alarming to settle for a Guy no other team in the NFL wants as their head coach… I hope we get Todd Bowles. .
January 21st, 2012 at 11:34 am
JFB
Ifthese guys are still under contract.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:37 am
Well who have we interviewed that isn’t under contract?
Fact is, Tice and these others are being interviewed for the HC job ONLY, whether McKenzie is serious about them as candidates or not remains to be seen.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:38 am
ghostraiders Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:32 am
Just a question… how many interviews has Moss had with other teams for their HC position?? I think its alarming to settle for a Guy no other team in the NFL wants as their head coach… I hope we get Todd Bowles. .
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Remember, though, that Moss and Reggie know each other personally. Also, Moss may not be putting his name out there for a lot of other positions. He’s got a good gig in GB, and the “Assistant Head Coach” title means he’s being paid well.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:38 am
Todd Bowles could be like a Mike Tomlin. Both are tolerate no bs and will get in your face. Both were db coaches. Bowles did go 2-1 could have went 3-0. Moss could be our dc
January 21st, 2012 at 11:40 am
Green Bay would have to allow Moss to be our DC, and they could just reject it like the Jets did to us last year.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:43 am
Al Saunders and Mike Wauffle are gone.
Any new HC is going to bring in 99% of his own staff.
They only position coach that sometimes sticks around is the ST coach.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:45 am
Can we make carmichael our Oc?
January 21st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:43 am
Al Saunders and Mike Wauffle are gone.
Any new HC is going to bring in 99% of his own staff.
They only position coach that sometimes sticks around is the ST coach.
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Don’t count on it. Saunders and Waufle are both very well respected around the league.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:47 am
The Raider offense was not this all-world beast you guys are making it out to be. It was ok for the most part and had a few good games…but mostly I saw an average offense…that could put up some yards but couldn’t deliver the touchdowns in critical times.
Al Saunders is not some genious that has to be retained at all costs. A new competent O.C with great leadership from the head coach will do just fine.
You Raider fans in here have such soft expectations…you’d think Hue was a Super Bowl coach or something….the guy went a lousy 8-8 and the team ran out of gas down the stretch.
And it was the most undisciplined team in NFL history.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:47 am
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:44 am
# wasbanned Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
I didn’t wake up to Marty Morningwood this morning.
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Try that Omega 3 stuff.
A popsicle stick and rubberband always work for me.
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Marty Morningwood has a reputation as a real hard worker, an early riser with impressive staying power.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:21 am
I really hope Hue ends up an OC in our division, but I don’t think he will.
Would love for the Chiefs to taint their clubhouse with that hack, who undoubtedly would leave for one reason or another in 1-2 years, and they would start over again.
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You’re a schmuck. You really want the Chiefs to suddenly have a potent offense AND the defense they have?
January 21st, 2012 at 11:51 am
Checking in on this blog and the ongoings in the Raider organization is starting to depress me. WTF.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:55 am
So according to PFT the reason why McCoy wasnt hired as Miami HC is because he didnt want to hire bowles as his DC. He wanted “his guy” to be a DC so he can worry about the offense. Ha donkey loser. But we better get our coaches now before they run out and we are stuck with the left overs. Moss is on lay away
January 21st, 2012 at 11:55 am
You’re a schmuck. You really want the Chiefs to suddenly have a potent offense AND the defense they have?
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Hue Jackson is a dime a dozen OC.
He has been an OC for 3 teams, and none of them kept him longer than 2 years.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:56 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:47 am
The Raider offense was not this all-world beast you guys are making it out to be. It was ok for the most part and had a few good games…but mostly I saw an average offense…that could put up some yards but couldn’t deliver the touchdowns in critical times.
Al Saunders is not some genious that has to be retained at all costs. A new competent O.C with great leadership from the head coach will do just fine.
You Raider fans in here have such soft expectations…you’d think Hue was a Super Bowl coach or something….the guy went a lousy 8-8 and the team ran out of gas down the stretch.
And it was the most undisciplined team in NFL history.
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Compare our offensive production the last 2 years to the years before that.
Enough said.
He turned a bunch of late-round picks, dumped players and “busts” into a very productive unit.
Before he came everyone was convinced to just dump “DMC’s dead weight”. Our o-line is mostly cast-offs. the only high draft pick is Wiz in the 2nd round. Our WRs are 4th round pick Ford, 5th round pick Moore and as you call him DH Bust or “drop hella balls”. Our QB was Campbell who was dumped in favor of…god, I can’t even remember the losers they played this year in Washington that he was dumped for.
That scrap heap of players became suddenly potent.
You guys can keep dissin’ the man. Maybe he was full of crap. But trying to say he wasn’t productive in what he was good at means you are just biast or blind.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:58 am
Hue Jackson was an OC for 1 year in Washington = fired
Hue Jackson was an OC for 1 year in Atlanta = fired
Hue Jackson, was HC/OC for 2 years in Oakland = fired
He sucks, and may not even land as an OC with a team next year.
He probably will go back to coaching WR’s.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:58 am
Hue Jackson was 16th in scoring offense last year.
Average production with above-average talent.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:55 am
You’re a schmuck. You really want the Chiefs to suddenly have a potent offense AND the defense they have?
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Hue Jackson is a dime a dozen OC.
He has been an OC for 3 teams, and none of them kept him longer than 2 years.
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Damned…I’m glad every dime-a-dozen Offensive Coordinator can turn a team from dead last almost to #6 in the NFL in scoring in his first year on the job.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:58 am
Hue Jackson was 16th in scoring offense last year.
Average production with above-average talent.
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Yep, scoring went down a bit. Yards went up a bit. Probably being a first year HC took a bit of attention away from the offensive nuances he could’ve put his attention on as an O’coordinator.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Hue Jackson is a good OC.
He is not a good HC.
He also has an unfortunate tendency to stab people in the back (see Cable, Reggie, Mark Davis, DHB, Jason Campbell, etc, etc).
January 21st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Again with the SOFT expectations.
Comparing anything to the last 8 years is not the right approach or attitude.
The shortcomings of the last 8 yrs are well-documented and known….
The fact is, moving forward, the Raiders can build up a coaching staff and organization that doesn’t make the collosal mistakes of the past…nor relies on check cashers that don’t produce.
A new head coach and staff will be able to replicate Hue’s “success” in no time flat.
Comparing anything to JaBust, McCown, Culpepper, Brooks, Walter, Tui and Collins….let alone George, Hollas and Schroeder is a waste of time.
Hue was part of the last 8 years and benefitted from it due to the lowest of low expectations from a Raider fan base.
Hue is not a competitive candidate….as you all can see right now.
The Raiders deserve better
January 21st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Average production with above-average talent
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A lack of leadership qualities, getting out coached, not having a solid game plan and not having his team ready to play on Sundays will do this.
I did like the fact that Hue called some pretty interesting plays…but they didn’t always work and seemed to be called out of desperation.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
What the Raiders need right now is discipline and a team of players that go every play.
Scheme helps…but when you have guys like Tommy Kelly jumping offsides, Stanford Routt getting a ridiculous amount of penalties…the false starts on the o-line…
You quickly become “unlucky”…….
A good OC, DC and ST will fix a scheme…a head coach has to instill discipline and run the lazy off the roster
January 21st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Yep…so…as was stated before…I’m fine with it as long as we get an upgrade in coaching talent across the boards.
Otherwise, I have little doubt we could have built a playoff team with a good defensive coordinator change instead.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
The team lack of cap space and the fact that Hue and Al traded all the draft picks….means the team you see today will most likely be the team you see tomorrow
January 21st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Blah…blah…blah.
Fact of the matter is, Hue was a rookie head coach…rookie head coaches make mistakes. That’s the way it is.
It wasn’t Hue fault his DC was INCOMPETENT, and Chuck B should have NEVER been hired in the first place. That’s old man Al’s fault.
Not Hues fault his best player on offense DMC got hurt midway thru the season and it is not his fault his starting QB got hur halfway through as well. D Moore, J Ford and T Jones and Murphy missed significant playing time also.
The Raiders had one of the WORST, if not THE worst damn defense in the league and in the end that is what cost this team a playoff appearance…plain and simple.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
It will interesting to see what happen if another rookie head coach is hired like Moss and how many game changing and game costing rookie head coaching he makes compared to Hue.
Then again, the people who hated Hue, will make sure to point out Moss or any other new rookie head coach who is hired is only in his first year. Go figure.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Dknight007,
Hue was a decent offensive coordinator. But what did he do with what he had? Teams that were grossly undisciplined, teams that layed down with everything on the line on multiple occassions….and a disaster of a trade that has handcuffed this team’s ability to get better.
He also is not trustworthy and was quick to sell everyone down the river to absolve blame.
Raiders deserve better.
And where is Hue interviewing next week? So the marketplace doesn’t think much of him as a head coach, yet he’s a perfect fit fot the Raiders?
Again, the Raiders deserve better
January 21st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
375.raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:58 am
Hue Jackson was 16th in scoring offense last year.
Average production with above-average talent.
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Yep, scoring went down a bit. Yards went up a bit. Probably being a first year HC took a bit of attention away from the offensive nuances he could’ve put his attention on as an O’coordinator.
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Uhh…you people forgetting the best weapons on the team DMC and Ford were hurt half the year and the starting QB Campbell got hurt also at the midway point??
The DEFENSE SUCKED….PERIOD!!
January 21st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
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Probably mix in a little Cinderella for some added street flava
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Shout out to Mother Jamaica and my homie Bob Marley (wizzle)
January 21st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
“Fact of the matter is, Hue was a rookie head coach…rookie head coaches make mistakes. That’s the way it is.”
I disagree I think it is Hues Fault he is the Head Coach which means he is in charge of the offense and the defense. When Al passed away Hue had control he could have taken a more proactive approach to the defense he could have paid more attention to the sloppy tackling and made guys work harder on fundamentals like shedding blocks and gap assignment.
Being the head coach he could have told Chucky B what to work on every day its his job.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
For me, any one of three scenarios would have led to me supporting Hue.
1. Not trading a 1st and a 2nd for Carson Palmer regardless of final record…you don’t mortgage the future unless its a sure thing
2. Fighting down the stretch…fighting against Miami and Green Bay…..that was pathetic
3. Making the playoffs
January 21st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
384.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Dknight007,
Hue was a decent offensive coordinator. But what did he do with what he had? Teams that were grossly undisciplined, teams that layed down with everything on the line on multiple occassions….and a disaster of a trade that has handcuffed this team’s ability to get better.
He also is not trustworthy and was quick to sell everyone down the river to absolve blame.
Raiders deserve better.
And where is Hue interviewing next week? So the marketplace doesn’t think much of him as a head coach, yet he’s a perfect fit fot the Raiders?
Again, the Raiders deserve better
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Raiders deserve better, but does better deserve them??
COMMITTMENT TO EXCELLENCE to me means bringing back Jon Gruden, selling a crap load of season tickets and getting serious about turning this team around!
Bringing another rookie head coach to replace Hue is another gamble and it may set this team back 2 years…at least.
Discipline has always been a problem with the Raiders, will Moss change that or will the league still look to throw flags all over the place when it comes to the Raiders?
January 21st, 2012 at 12:38 pm
387.Silverandblack666 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
“Fact of the matter is, Hue was a rookie head coach…rookie head coaches make mistakes. That’s the way it is.”
I disagree I think it is Hues Fault he is the Head Coach which means he is in charge of the offense and the defense. When Al passed away Hue had control he could have taken a more proactive approach to the defense he could have paid more attention to the sloppy tackling and made guys work harder on fundamentals like shedding blocks and gap assignment.
Being the head coach he could have told Chucky B what to work on every day its his job.
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Fact of the matter is….Hue Jackson worked his AZZ for this team and organization.
The guy was dynamic, if he had a REAL DC and REAL D scheme, the team would have made the playoffs….PERIOD!!
January 21st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Jon Gruden is overrated and has never developed young talent.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
It’s a waste of time talking about Hue.
Let’s see who Reggie hires as the HC and see what coordinators and assistants he hires and than we can pick them apart!
January 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
391.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Jon Gruden is overrated and has never developed young talent.
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Blah…blah…blah…
January 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
It’s a waste of time talking about Hue AND Gruden.
Let’s see who Reggie hires as the HC and see what coordinators and assistants he hires and than we can pick them apart!
January 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Also, the head coach has to be trusted by the General Manager and Owner….not running to Mike Silver and giving him the inside scoop the whole way.
Would Hue be on board if Reggie decided to trade Carson Palmer? Or would there be a risk that Hue tries to sabotage the GM?
Its more important that everyone trusts one another and is on the same page……that where you get rid of dysfunction.
Hue did nothing but run his mouth and show that he is anything but a team player
January 21st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Read this again SNB,
It’s a waste of time talking about Hue AND Gruden.
Let’s see who Reggie hires as the HC and see what coordinators and assistants he hires and than we can pick them apart!
January 21st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Dknight,
Gruden is good if you have a veteran team that needs motivation.
Name me one young player he developed? He has no patience for that.
If Gruden is the coach, like Hue, he would trade or sign a bunch of vets, go on a two year run…and then be back in the hole for another decade.
Hue is from the same line of thinking too.
Reggie is going to get players that can give the Raiders 8 to 10 years of elite play….not signing those same players after their best years are behind them
January 21st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I guess the bottome line is did the players want to give 110 percent for Hue? I don’t remember hearing any public outbursts from Lechler or the other players like when Cable was let go.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Waste of time interviewing guys like Tice and Morningwheg.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Also, the head coach has to be trusted by the General Manager and Owner….not running to Mike Silver and giving him the inside scoop the whole way.
Would Hue be on board if Reggie decided to trade Carson Palmer? Or would there be a risk that Hue tries to sabotage the GM?
Its more important that everyone trusts one another and is on the same page……that where you get rid of dysfunction.
Hue did nothing but run his mouth and show that he is anything but a team player
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Comment of the Year Nominee.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I guess the bottom line is did the players want to give 110 percent for Hue? I don’t remember hearing any public outbursts from Lechler or the other players like when Cable was let go.
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I’m assuming that was sarcasm…
January 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Well then why didn’t Mr. Dynamic get rid of his incompetent DC after the old man died?
January 21st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Bottom line.
The next hiring of a HC is going to be VERY important and the hiring of Coordinators and assistants will be in even more important.
Reggie better make the right decision when it comes to a HC and his staff or this team will regress from what they have done the last two years.
If that happens, well at least the will have a top 10 pick in teh 1st round in 2013 and that should make some of you happy. Sheesh.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
397.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Dknight,
Gruden is good if you have a veteran team that needs motivation.
Name me one young player he developed? He has no patience for that.
If Gruden is the coach, like Hue, he would trade or sign a bunch of vets, go on a two year run…and then be back in the hole for another decade.
Hue is from the same line of thinking too.
Reggie is going to get players that can give the Raiders 8 to 10 years of elite play….not signing those same players after their best years are behind them
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How do you know what he would do with AL yelling in his ear “Win Now”? How do you know what Reggie will do?You dont know and neither does anyone else.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
402.lefty12 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Well then why didn’t Mr. Dynamic get rid of his incompetent DC after the old man died?
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I call Hue dynamic because he was intense and he had balls to call plays put of the box and catch some defenses and special teams off guard.
Nobody else better on that GREAT D staff to replace Chuck B him with.
Woodson, Biekert, Ross?? They don’t have any experience.
Maybe Waufle could have taken over, but that was a big IF.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Dknight,
Gruden is good if you have a veteran team that needs motivation.
Name me one young player he developed? He has no patience for that.
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That’s easy. Jerry Porter for starters, and…um…well…uh…
That’s was it, actually…
January 21st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Pissed me off when they showed chuck B and zoomed in on him on the sideline during the greenbay game and that sob looked lost i was cussing at my tv wanted to throw my beer at the screen when they showed him. Im glad he wont be back and his sorry @ss play calling
January 21st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Bottom line.
The next hiring of a HC is going to be VERY important and the hiring of Coordinators and assistants will be in even more important.
Reggie better make the right decision when it comes to a HC and his staff or this team will regress from what they have done the last two years.
If that happens, well at least the will have a top 10 pick in teh 1st round in 2013 and that should make some of you happy. Sheesh.
I highly doubt Raider Nation will stand for seeing more 5-11 or 6-10 teams for 3 more years.
No more sellouts at the Coliseum thats for damn sure if that happens.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Read this again SNB,
It’s a waste of time talking about Hue AND Gruden.
Let’s see who Reggie hires as the HC and see what coordinators and assistants he hires and than we can pick them apart!
Move on….
January 21st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Bottom line.
The next hiring of a HC is going to be VERY important and the hiring of Coordinators and assistants will be in even more important.
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As with any team.
But I am not concerned so much about having some big “name” but more that the entire staff is aligned on what they want to do. That the position coaches are coaching to the scheme of the DC, who is designing defenses that play to the strength of the players on the roster that the GM selected/drafted based on the scheme of the DC and the insights of staff that were scouted by people who know all the below….with an owner that’s all on board.
Names…who cares, competence is what matters.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
REggie needs to free up cap space…..
Tommy Kelly
Wimbley
Palmer
Routt
Someone is going to have to come up with some money.
Unfortunately, Seymour’s $15million is guaranteed
January 21st, 2012 at 1:02 pm
The Gruden teams were full of Vets:
Offense:
Gannon
Thunder & lightning, C Garner
Tim Brown, J Rice, A Rison
The 2 young guys we had on defense were Charles & D Russell (RIP)
Gruden loves a vet team.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Wimbley & Palmer are not going anywhere.
They are 2 of our best players.
TK will be traded IMHO. The others can always restructure.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
It’s a waste of time talking about Hue.
Let’s see who Reggie hires as the HC and see what coordinators and assistants he hires and than we can pick them apart!
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I’m waitin’ to see who he hires…that’s why it keeps coming back to Hue. I don’t see any of these interviews as obvious upgrades…
And, if they aren’t obvious upgrades, then I disagree. Hue didn’t lose the locker room (look at the people interviews when he was fired). He was working with a defensive coordinator who was out of the NFL and not even at college level (like bringing our Bread and Breakfast Offense again, but on defense).
If we brought in a good defensive coordinator I KNOW that we’re a playoff bound team. He kept that offense going despite a multitude of injuries to KEY KEY KEY offensive staff. Not backup players. Our starting QB, starting RB, starting two WRs all injured most of the year. We brought in a QB who was retired and out of shape. And still had a pretty darned good offense.
Give us a defense and I know where we’re heading next year. Now…it’s wait…and hope…and see…and wait…and hope…and see if Reggie’s gut and slow thinking makes the right choice.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I agree with Lefty (did I really say that). Hue could have fired Chucky, he could have been more involved, or he could have found another way to fix the issue.
Your job as a HC is to fix the team’s issues, and improve them.
Hue improved our offense, but our defense was worse than previous years.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Well then why didn’t Mr. Dynamic get rid of his incompetent DC after the old man died?
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Noone on staff to turn it over to. Waufle was the only expereienced competent position coach out there really. Others were new ex-player types or unproven.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I can’t believe You People are still upset about the Hue being fired. He wasn’t that good, so get over it.
If he was so great then why is he still unemployed?
January 21st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
2012 FA
Not a whole lot of money saved here. On the other hand not many if any will be asked to resign.
Khalif Barnes T UFA Oakland TBD —
Darryl Blackstock LB UFA Oakland TBD —
Kyle Boller QB UFA Oakland TBD —
Tyvon Branch CB UFA Oakland TBD —
Michael Bush RB UFA Oakland TBD —
Rock Cartwright RB UFA Oakland TBD —
Jon Condo LS UFA Oakland TBD —
Quentin Groves DE UFA Oakland TBD —
Stephon Heyer T UFA Oakland TBD —
T.J. Houshmanzadeh WR UFA Oakland TBD —
Jarvis Moss DE UFA Oakland TBD —
Samson Satele C UFA Oakland TBD —
Chaz Schilens WR UFA Oakland TBD —
Trevor Scott DE UFA Oakland TBD
January 21st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I agree with Lefty (did I really say that). Hue could have fired Chucky, he could have been more involved, or he could have found another way to fix the issue.
Your job as a HC is to fix the team’s issues, and improve them.
Hue improved our offense, but our defense was worse than previous years.
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Come on – Chuck Bresnehan was the defensive equivilant of Tom Walsh. It’s the Bread and Breakfast defense we had. The only reason it was #30 in the league instead of dead last is that we have some quality pieces to our “D” there…but damned, you wouldn’t think it by looking at them play under that guy.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I can’t believe You People are still upset about the Hue being fired. He wasn’t that good, so get over it.
If he was so great then why is he still unemployed?
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I see…so I guess you’d prefer Tice…? Or mohronweg?…Or maybe one of those Denver coordinators?
January 21st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Player 2011/2012 2012/2013 2013/2014 2014/2015 2015/2016
Richard Seymour at at 15,000,000 7,500,000 UFA – – at
Stanford Routt at at 10,000,000 5,000,000 11,500,000 UFA 11,500,000 at
Darren McFadden at at 7,055,000 5,650,000 5,856,250 UFA – at
Tommy Kelly at at 5,500,000 6,000,000 6,500,000 7,000,000 UFA at
Kamerion Wimbley at at 5,000,000 11,000,000 11,000,000 10,000,000 11,000,000 at
Jason Campbell at at 4,500,000 UFA – – – at
Aaron Curry at at 3,725,000 5,700,000 UFA – – at
Shane Lechler at at 3,200,000 3,800,000 UFA – – at
Michael Bush at at 2,610,000 UFA – – – at
Sebastian Janikowski at at 2,600,000 1,700,000 3,800,000 UFA – at
John Henderson at at 2,500,000 4,000,000 UFA – – at
Carson Palmer at at 2,500,000 12,500,000 13,000,000 15,000,000 UFA at
Hiram Eugene at at 2,000,000 2,500,000 2,750,000 3,250,000 UFA at
Stephon Heyer at at 1,700,000 UFA – – – at
Jarvis Moss at at 1,250,000 UFA – – – at
Kyle Boller at at 1,250,000 UFA – – – at
Darius Heyward-Bey at at 1,000,000 1,605,000 2,210,000 UFA – at
T.J. Houshmanzadeh at at 910,000 UFA – – – at
Rock Cartwright at at 800,000 UFA – – – at
Michael Huff at at 685,000 4,000,000 4,000,000 4,000,000 UFA at
Trevor Scott at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Chaz Schilens at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Tyvon Branch at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Quentin Groves at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Louis Murphy at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Matt Shaughnessy at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Mike Mitchell at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Brandon Myers at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Rolando McClain at at 405,000 970,000 1,535,000 2,100,000 RFA at
Travis Goethel at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Bruce Campbell at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Jacoby Ford at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Lamarr Houston at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 RFA – at
Jared Veldheer at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Denarius Moore at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Stefen Wisniewski at at 375,000 – – – UFA at
Taiwan Jones at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Terrelle Pryor at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
DeMarcus Van Dyke at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Chimdi Chekwa at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Joe Barksdale at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
David Ausberry at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Richard Gordon at at – – – – UFA at
Darryl Blackstock at at – UFA – – – at
Khalif Barnes at at – UFA – – – at
Jon Condo at at – UFA – – – at
Kevin Boss at at – – – – UFA at
Josh Bullocks at at UFA – – – – at
Samson Satele at at – UFA – – -
January 21st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Sey, Routt and Kelly could all go and we would hardly notice on the field. Well aside from the number of penalties called.
But look at the savings.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I agree with Lefty (did I really say that). Hue could have fired Chucky, he could have been more involved, or he could have found another way to fix the issue.
Your job as a HC is to fix the team’s issues, and improve them.
Hue improved our offense, but our defense was worse than previous years.
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Come on – Chuck Bresnehan was the defensive equivilant of Tom Walsh. It’s the Bread and Breakfast defense we had. The only reason it was #30 in the league instead of dead last is that we have some quality pieces to our “D” there…but damned, you wouldn’t think it by looking at them play under that guy.
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I do find it interesting that since Hue blew the lid off the whole “Al dictated the defenses” thing, neither John Marshall, Rob Ryan or Chuck Bres has come forward and said “Oh, no! That’s not true! We ALWAYS ran our own defenses!” Instead, it’s just been silence.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I can’t believe You People are still upset about the Hue being fired. He wasn’t that good, so get over it.
If he was so great then why is he still unemployed?
….
I see…so I guess you’d prefer Tice…? Or mohronweg?…Or maybe one of those Denver coordinators?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I see…. So it’s Tice, some no name Coordinator, or Moron weg? Those are our only options?!
LOL
January 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
At least Hue had balls and he did the best he could without having his best offensive weapon DMC out for half the year and not having Ford for half the year, not having D Moore for 4 games and losing his starting QB halfway thru the season and also having an incomptetent POS crap Chuck B as a DC. On top of all that, Hue had to deal with losing his legendary owner and defacto crazy GM in old man Al! Not an easy first season for Hue, but he did the best he can, despite the circumstances.
What a waste of time talking to clowns Morning and also a waste of time talking to Tice? Ugh
If Reggie is going hire Moss, then he should just do it already, before the good Coordinators or Assistants get scooped up.
The plan should be:
If Moss is hired as HC, then he needs to either keep Saunders as OC (to maintain Offensive continuity with playbook) or hire Pack QB coach Tom Clements as OC. He should keep Bob Wylie and Wiz as OLine coaches.
Then on Defense, he should hire Pack DLine coach Mike Trgovac as the DC or look to hire Ravens LB coach and former Pats DC Dean Pees as the DC. I would also like to see Todd Bowles as DC here also. That’s if they go to more of 3-4 base defense. If they stick to a 4-3, Del Rio should be looked at.
I’m not a fan of hiring Darren Perry as a DC. He is too inexperienced. The Raiders D needs a solid, legit, and experienced DC who knows what he is doing and is not learning on the job.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
The people who actually keep bringing up Hue are the ones who “love” him so much…and those are his haters.
Move on…
January 21st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Was a lot more you neglected to bring up. Horrible clock management. Horrible at snap decisions. Horrible motivator of players. Horrible at being a leader. Man was a train wreck.
Should have been given the nickname Lionel.
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DKnight007 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Blah…blah…blah.
Fact of the matter is, Hue was a rookie head coach…rookie head coaches make mistakes. That’s the way it is.
It wasn’t Hue fault his DC was INCOMPETENT, and Chuck B should have NEVER been hired in the first place. That’s old man Al’s fault.
Not Hues fault his best player on offense DMC got hurt midway thru the season and it is not his fault his starting QB got hur halfway through as well. D Moore, J Ford and T Jones and Murphy missed significant playing time also.
The Raiders had one of the WORST, if not THE worst damn defense in the league and in the end that is what cost this team a playoff appearance…plain and simple.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I rather have Moss, D Perry, or Rod Marinelli over those clowns.
I rather have Capers over Tice, Moron Weg, or anyone from Denver.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Coaches I like to keep:
Saunders
Wylie
Wiz
Rod Woodson
Waufle (if we stay with 4-3 defense)
January 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
You guys are beating a dead horse. Go read a book or go for a walk . Play with your kids. And for crying out loud, put some pants on.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Per Bill Williamson…
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that former Oakland coach Hue Jackson was bypassed for the St. Louis offensive coordinator job. The paper reports new Rams coach Jeff Fisher picked former Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer over Jackson.
That has to be a tough blow for a former head coach to be bypassed in favor of a former offensive coordinator. There are other offensive coordinator jobs available, so perhaps Jackson will land somewhere. As of now, there has not been any reported interest in Jackson, including in Kansas City, where the Chiefs are looking for an offensive coordinator.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Cable was 8-8, people were upset, and they wanted him fired (myself included).
Hue goes 8-8, gives the division to Denver, and people want him to stay.
KC was a good team when Cable was the coach, they won the division, but people still wanted him fired because he couldn’t win outside of the division.
Hue lost to Denver, SD, and KC, and he lost 4/5 games to give the division to Denver.
I don’t understand it?!
January 21st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
430.Just Win Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
You guys are beating a dead horse. Go read a book or go for a walk . Play with your kids. And for crying out loud, put some pants on.
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Listen to JWB!
Dont go for a walk or play with your kids without your pants.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I’m glad Hue was Fired!
We were 7-4, so don’t try to use any excuses like:
Injuries
Chucky
Al
He lost 4/5 last games, and gave the division to TeBlow!
Hue is a good OC, but he is not a good HC.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I wanted hue gone along with bresnahan after the miami game. And once that huge meltdown we had against the lions and the sd game i was already giving hue the finger he isnt cut out to be a HC. OC he is good but not All that. He isnt someone GMs drools over.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
432.Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Cable was 8-8, people were upset, and they wanted him fired (myself included).
Hue goes 8-8, gives the division to Denver, and people want him to stay.
KC was a good team when Cable was the coach, they won the division, but people still wanted him fired because he couldn’t win outside of the division.
Hue lost to Denver, SD, and KC, and he lost 4/5 games to give the division to Denver.
I don’t understand it?!
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All of Cables wins were credited to Hue. We were not close to the playoffs under Cable. Cable didnt bring hope to most fans and Hue looked to be done in by Bresh. I for one am in the Hue camp until they show me someone better.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
And we created that teblow bs
January 21st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Be interesting if Tebow is replaced this offseason.
January 21st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
So I guess no word on how the interview went last night for what’s his name…don’t wanna butcher his name!
Another dead news day except for Brain S getting the job in St Louis instead of Hue!
January 21st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
god created that tebow b.s. and i wonnder what coach in this planet coudlve gotten us to the playoffs ? u wanna blame hue ? ok who couldve gotten these lazy bums to play harder ?
January 21st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Hue was a liar.
Nobody wants a liar on their staff.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I’m glad Hue was Fired!
We were 7-4, so don’t try to use any excuses like:
Injuries
Chucky
Al
He lost 4/5 last games, and gave the division to TeBlow!
Hue is a good OC, but he is not a good HC.
7-4 and Shane told everyone that we still have a lot of football left…I guess no one listened!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
since we talk bout what we want on this blog .. lol .. im want to post bout the greatness of lebron james again and say to u haters of the king . (laker fans ) why should lebron stay in cleveland on sum crap team when kobe didnt want 2 go to charlotte ? i meAN
January 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Too bad Dick Lebeau will never come here as DC…
January 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
didnt majic johnson have a lot of talent on his laker teams ? didnt shaq have a lot of talent ? so whats wrong with lebron playin with dewayne wade ?
January 21st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
jeff fisher picked {terrible coach} b shottenheimer because he will run the boring conservative offense jeff fisher loves .
January 21st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
What greatness do you speak of with LeBron! He’s a good player, maybe a great player, but we all seen the 4th qtr meltdowns when it mattered the most…LeBron will get one, but…
January 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Hwnrdr,
No one listens to punters and kickers!
They are not part of the team. They are accessories to the team like the cover for your phone.
LOL
January 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Doriangray Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
didnt majic johnson have a lot of talent on his laker teams ? didnt shaq have a lot of talent ? so whats wrong with lebron playin with dewayne wade ?
The difference is…Magic won 5, and Shaq won 4, and I’ll admit….2000-2002, those were Shaq’s Lakers…
January 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
432.Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Cable was 8-8, people were upset, and they wanted him fired (myself included).
Hue goes 8-8, gives the division to Denver, and people want him to stay.
KC was a good team when Cable was the coach, they won the division, but people still wanted him fired because he couldn’t win outside of the division.
Hue lost to Denver, SD, and KC, and he lost 4/5 games to give the division to Denver.
I don’t understand it?!
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All of Cables wins were credited to Hue. We were not close to the playoffs under Cable. Cable didnt bring hope to most fans and Hue looked to be done in by Bresh. I for one am in the Hue camp until they show me someone better.
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Cable was 17-27. Stop saying he was 8-8. Gotta take the whole tenure into account.
Plus, the year we went 8-8 under Cable we had a top-5 offense. It was the 1st year Hue came in and installed his system and called the plays. The year before when Cable was running the offense I believe we were ranked 31st or 30th.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Hwnrdr,
No one listens to punters and kickers!
They are not part of the team. They are accessories to the team like the cover for your phone.
LOL
Good One O!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
what greatness ? rebounding , passing , scoring , posting up now . lol . . 6-8 / 260 pound beast that runs a 4.5 . and cun jump over the sears tower . mvp trophies . took the terrible cavs to the finals . etc etc
January 21st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
I heard Tressel will be interviewing with Oakland as well as Indy.
If this is true, it would put the icing on the cake that we’re looking at trading Palmer, returning Campbell maybe, and fast-tracking Pryor to start.
As someone astutely observed, that most our HC candidates have experience developing mobile QBs.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
448.Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Hwnrdr,
No one listens to punters and kickers!
They are not part of the team. They are accessories to the team like the cover for your phone.
LOL
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Did you look above to see how expensive our phone covers are?
January 21st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
well hwndr , guess what ? if lebron james played with young shaquille oneal , yeah hed have rings too … if he had alot of talent on his team like majic johnsaon had,, guess what . hed already have rings too dude.. u cant deny that .
January 21st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Chris, it kind of makes me wonder…if Al kept Cable on for one more year, with Hue as OC…would Cable have had enough motivation for the guys to win the last game at home? If Cable stayed…Marshall would have, and say what you want…he is better than Chucky B!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
I thought Lebeau was offered a HC position a few years back, and he declined it to stay with the Steelers.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
448.Raider O Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Hwnrdr,
No one listens to punters and kickers!
They are not part of the team. They are accessories to the team like the cover for your phone.
LOL
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Did you look above to see how expensive our phone covers are?
LOL
January 21st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
yep . should a never fired cable. like ive said over and over guys like hue and norv turner should be coordinators for life . cable seems to be able to motivate a squad , all he needed was great players and coordinators.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Doriangray Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
well hwndr , guess what ? if lebron james played with young shaquille oneal , yeah hed have rings too … if he had alot of talent on his team like majic johnsaon had,, guess what . hed already have rings too dude.. u cant deny that .
True, and those were also different times! When LeBron came in, I thought that it was time to move in to the James era…he still has to prove it now, and I hope last year has provided enough spark for him to finally prove himself!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
459.
Only players get away with beating there wives and parting on the road. Cable is gone because he was an idiot. Loved by his plays but an idiot all the same.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
And remember now, I am a Laker Fan! LOL…I think what motivated Dallas in the Finals was that presser that James and Bosch and Wade did…how many championships LeBron said he was gonna win without even stepping on the court?
January 21st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Anyways…I guess that Giovanni guy is a fraud…haha! Someone that he wasn’t telling who, verbally agreed to a 4 year deal and that Philly guy came in yesterday…haha!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I’m a Cavs fan, and I will never forget what Queen James did.
We made him a song to stay!
Damn you James.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I agree O, my cousins live in Cleveland… they hated him ever since!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Chris, it kind of makes me wonder…if Al kept Cable on for one more year, with Hue as OC…would Cable have had enough motivation for the guys to win the last game at home? If Cable stayed…Marshall would have, and say what you want…he is better than Chucky B!
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I guess we’ll never know. But if Al stuck with Cable who knows what would’ve happened, who would’ve played, etc. Remember Cable is the guy who preferred Fargas to DMac and Bush. He’s the guy who once called a sweep to Janikowski, so I don’t know who’s even on the field if Cable had total control for the last 10 games of the season. Certainly not Carson Palmer. We probably play the last 10 with Boller. Likely don’t even get close to 8-8 if that’s the case.
Plus Cable didn’t even get fired, technically. His contract was up. Would’ve had to give him 2-3 years if you wanted to keep him around.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
see i never understood why that made so many people upset . if the raiders signed peyton manning 5 years ago and he said im gonna win 3 ringhs here!!! yeah lets do it!! i wouldnt be mad. people that are fans of other teams are so scared of the heat that they hate without reason . u all are just afraid that lebron will one day overtake kobe . wuts wrong with any athlete being confident ? even if it is overconfidence ?
January 21st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I am more impressed that Cable got 12 points a game from Jamarcus, Fargas, JLH and Mario Henderson (how about a QB-RB-WR-LT tandem that was all out of the league in 2 years??) than Hue getting 25 points a game from Soup, Veldheer, DMAC and a better crew of WR’s.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Nope , Paints still dry’n in here….. Hear it ?
January 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Hwnrdr,
The city went all out to keep him, and he did that espn crap ” The Decision”.
What a tool?!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
when the heat signed james and bosh laker fans wet their pants. . it was hilarious . then after the finals lost . they were like ” they should break up the big 3 ” lol so afraid that lebron will win a ring . do u all remember when that was on espn ? and now their askin ” are the heat better without wade ” lol just ridiculous.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
and what was so wrong about The DECISION ? if so many people were sooo offended by it ? umm then why did it do so outstanding in the ratings ? people just really want 2 hate lebron . lebron didnt get to put on his chosen college hat out of high school so he made up 4 it . and it was a new marketing thing . an event .
January 21st, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Vegas,
I agree but not about Fargas. He loved Fargas. We had Bush & DMC, but he preferred
Fargas.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:23 pm
The worst part about “The Decision” is Lebron donated the proceeds it made to the Boys and Girls Club.
What’s wrong with that you say?
He did it for the Boys and Girls Club of Greenwich, CT!!!
Greenwich is home to mostly hedge fund owners and CEO’s, and has a per capita income of over $125,000.
Way to really help some kids out lol. He helped the richest, most spoiled kids in America out!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
its to the point that if lebron turned into a superhero and saved the world from sum supervillain . every1 would say ” YEAH HE SAVED US , BUT HE LET DR. EVIL BLOW UP WYOMING, I HATE SUPER LEBRON ” .
January 21st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
“The Decision” is another example of what’s wrong with this country! We care more about sports than politics.
Who cares, sign your contract and go play. I miss the good ol days.
The Decision had better ratings than the state of the union.
Who cares about Education, health, and Taxes. Who is LJ going to sign with?
January 21st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
476.
5 MILLION WATCH CNN DEBATE [6.2 MILLION MTV 'JERSEY SHORE', 18 MILLION 'AMERICAN IDOL']…
January 21st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Vegas,
LMAO
I didn’t know that!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:36 pm
477,
I know bro. I know.
Best way to rule people is to have them occupied and keep them ignorant.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
nah.. thats wuts right bout this country . this aint freakin lybia. to hell with politics. we live in america. we get to go to maroon 5 concerts and wear abercrombie while driving our s.u.v.s .. we want to enjoy life in our free country . thats why i say we need 2 stop letting evil muslims into america . no more arabs. !!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
The Great Roman empire established that system, and Govs all around the world still use that method.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Bowles is the only interivew so far I give any credence to as far as potential possibility. And he is the only one who could also be a DC for us if we act quickly.
He’s not under contract now.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
In two years as Detroit’s head-man, Mornhinweg compiled a 5-27 record. One event that highlighted his tenure was an overtime contest against the Bears, in which he elected to kick then to receive. The Bears scored on their first possession in sudden death extra time and the coach was ravaged in the media and by the fans.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Damn those Muslim Arabs, if they want us to care about politics and issues that will help us.
Damn them all!!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
The reason Coach Jackson was unprofessionally fired was because Cable was let go. We finally made the leap to a .500 average club and we allowed Cable to walk. He improves the team with Hue as the OC, Marshall as the DC and instead of building on that, boooom, bye-bye. So insert Coach Hue and he is expected to improve on that.
Well guess what, we also let the DC go and Hue didn’t have a choice in the matter. So since Hue couldn’t best Cable, the disfunctionallity of the Radiers fired him.
Some could say if Hue had a better DC we could have made it to the play-offs, and you are right. The DC cost us the play-offs.
If Cable was kept, we coulda built on that cuz Hue is a good OC. But in keeping with precident, Hue followed Cable.
So in other words, had Cable gone say 12-4, 13-3, he’d kept his job and Hue would still be OC. But we know how trigger happy management is, and Hue thus became HC, only to get fired in keeping with Raider management tradition.
It all reeks of bull schitt, horse schitt and sewer odor. Cuz inless Reggie reels in Moss for HC, we’re prolly lookin at 4-12 next year.
Whoop-D-fckin-do..
January 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
This was on the comments on the Dolphins news report about McCoy (from the Broncos) not being hired…
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KIR says: Jan 21, 2012 3:06 PM
You have the 24th ranked offense turn down an interview with the Raiders and think you can make demands on another team considering you for the Head Coaching Job?
What again is the problem that you all have with Hue Jackson who had the 9th ranked offense after losing possible MVP and best player RB Darren McFadden, QB and 2 best receivers?
January 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
1. Would love to see Huebris as the OC in KC. He would start planning on becoming the HC there and undermine their current HC.
2. Seeing sour grapes from McCoy about losing out on the Miami job makes me feel so happy he turned us down.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
if raiders hire marty morninwig . media gonna laugh at raiders and say ” al davis must still be running things ” and all u that wanted al dead so that , i quote ( we wont be the laughing stock of the league ) will still be in the same place.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Hue set an NFL record for penalties, that may never be broken.
I don’t care what else you put on his resume, that goes right at the very top.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
This was on the comments on the Dolphins news report about McCoy (from the Broncos) not being hired…
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KIR says: Jan 21, 2012 3:06 PM
You have the 24th ranked offense turn down an interview with the Raiders and think you can make demands on another team considering you for the Head Coaching Job?
What again is the problem that you all have with Hue Jackson who had the 9th ranked offense after losing possible MVP and best player RB Darren McFadden, QB and 2 best receivers?
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And a third rate DC!
SPOT FCKN ON………………………….
This short tempered bad hair day owner shoulda kept Hue. Fckn Preiod…………………….
January 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I cant wait for reggie to name a HC so all of Hue”s fan club can focus on the future. i dont get it. Please some one tell what good HC qualities did Hue possess that made him a HC we shouldnt have fired. Was he a great leader in the lockerroom, was he able to get his team to win clutch games, was he honest, did he take responsibility for the offense and defense, was he capable of making quick decisions like not going for the 2 against detroit or not kicking a fg with 10 seconds left in the half against SD when we had no timeouts, or being up 14 in the 4th quarter and on 4th down inside the 10 yd line against the browns he goes for it instead of kicking a fg that would have ended the game. STOP CONFUSING A GOOD COORDINATOR VERSUS HC!!Hue blamed everyone but him and his team collapsed. He did not earn another year. Help me understand what HC qualities you saw in hue. He fixed nothing, took blame for nothing and now he ’s not coaching!
January 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
the refs gonna always call excessive penalties on the raiders until we get new refs all over the league or they get it in their head that this isnt 1978 .
January 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I think we should give McCoy another chance to interview. Right after he agrees to let Herrera give him a Mark Davis bowl cut.
They should have a Mark Davis game next season where all the fans come in with the bowl cut.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Replacing the second HC I ever seen botch a coin-toss (Hue Jackson) with the first coach I ever seen botch a coin-toss (Moronwig) would be very odd.
I believe Reggie is looking at all the good offensive minds he can, to see if he wants to go that direction, because if he names a defensive-minded guy the HC, he already knows who that will be (Capers/Moss).
January 21st, 2012 at 2:48 pm
the refs gonna always call excessive penalties on the raiders until we get new refs all over the league or they get it in their head that this isnt 1978 .
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The record we broke was the Kansas City Chiefs.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Reggie gonna re-hire Hue as HC. Ya’ll wait and see. Print it.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:51 pm
nycraider . what hue was , was a rookie head coach . now no team in the nfl should hire a rookie coach then ? is that what youre saying ? because everybody aint a harbaugh . u gota learn sometimes. but i refuse to blame hue jackson becus idiots like richard seymour hit qbs 5 seconds after they thropw the ball or because dmac is a wussy or because jason campbell broke his clavicle.. or because rolando mcclain wont rush the line on ruunning plays or because jacoby ford got hurt or because chucky b blitzes a saftey and a linebacker on 3rd and 14 ……. oh that was all hues fault
January 21st, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Butt Gum Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Reggie gonna re-hire Hue as HC. Ya’ll wait and see. Print it.
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Sure, pal. Whatever.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Once the HC search is over, I hope Mckenzie finds the next Jack Lambert.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Was Hue a rookie coach?
I could have sworn I have been told he was the HC and the #1 reason the team improved in 2010.
I will let the league speak for his worth.
He has been fired from most organizations, was never given a year 2 in any of his stops as an OC, and is currently unemployed.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Replacing the second HC I ever seen botch a coin-toss (Hue Jackson) with the first coach I ever seen botch a coin-toss (Moronwig) would be very odd.
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Typical standard operating procedures for Mark Davis.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Doriangray Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
when the heat signed james and bosh laker fans wet their pants. . it was hilarious . then after the finals lost . they were like ” they should break up the big 3 ” lol so afraid that lebron will win a ring . do u all remember when that was on espn ? and now their askin ” are the heat better without wade ” lol just ridiculous.
I don’t care you hate the Lakers, I know many people who give me crap about it since I live in the Bay, but I don’t know any Laker fans who wet their pants brah…
Its cool you like LeBron, I got no problem with it, but come on bro…
January 21st, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Doriangray Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:51 pm
nycraider . what hue was , was a rookie head coach . now no team in the nfl should hire a rookie coach then ? is that what youre saying ? because everybody aint a harbaugh . u gota learn sometimes. but i refuse to blame hue jackson becus idiots like richard seymour hit qbs 5 seconds after they thropw the ball or because dmac is a wussy or because jason campbell broke his clavicle.. or because rolando mcclain wont rush the line on ruunning plays or because jacoby ford got hurt or because chucky b blitzes a saftey and a linebacker on 3rd and 14 ……. oh that was all hues fault
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How many rookie head coaches have their team collapse, lose the lockeroom, blame evryone else and then walk up to the podium and demand more power. i have no issue with rookie head coaches but Hue didnt posses many if any good qualities to be a good HC..maybe you can name some so i can be educated
January 21st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I wonder why Jeff Fisher went with Shotty instead of Hue? I didn’t think the Jets O was that spectacular! But who knows…anyone with inside info from MO?
January 21st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Fisher and Hue both are USC guys as well.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Oh Tanks Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Replacing the second HC I ever seen botch a coin-toss (Hue Jackson) with the first coach I ever seen botch a coin-toss (Moronwig) would be very odd.
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Typical standard operating procedures for Mark Davis.
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You know this because of the years he’s run the team???
Now quit reading that idiot Mike Silver and actually pay attention. Thank you.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Time for scouitng diamonds in the rough players at East/West Shrine game. Researching and scouting DLinemen, LB’s, and RB’s. Marc Tyler from USC would be a good replacement for Bush.
Need to take a look at big CB’s also and another Safety.
These diamonds in the rough from East/West Shrine game can be had when Raiders start to pick in Round 3 and after.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Maybe Fisher just got tired of hearing the word “obviously” too many times in one sentence.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:05 pm
504.hwnrdr Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I wonder why Jeff Fisher went with Shotty instead of Hue? I didn’t think the Jets O was that spectacular! But who knows…anyone with inside info from MO?
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Schotty is more a yes man.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Time for scouting diamonds in the rough players at East/West Shrine game. Researching and scouting DLinemen, LB’s, and RB’s. Marc Tyler from USC would be a good replacement for Bush.
Need to take a look at big CB’s also and another Safety.
These diamonds in the rough from East/West Shrine game can be had when Raiders start to pick in Round 3 and after.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:08 pm
In sales, when you repeat the same words many times, they are typically triggers to buy time because you are talking out of your azz.
I have to catch myself with my “in the grand scheme of things”.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
468.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I am more impressed that Cable got 12 points a game from Jamarcus, Fargas, JLH and Mario Henderson (how about a QB-RB-WR-LT tandem that was all out of the league in 2 years??) than Hue getting 25 points a game from Soup, Veldheer, DMAC and a better crew of WR’s.
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Man, isn’t that the fuk’n truth?!
Also, you watch the team playing this year, guys laughing it up on the sideline when we’re losing and you have to think that they played harder for Cable.
Reggie showed some smarts just for firing Hue the drama queen.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Goooooooooogle NEW AND IMPROVED Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
The reason Coach Jackson was unprofessionally fired was because Cable was let go. We finally made the leap to a .500 average club and we allowed Cable to walk. He improves the team with Hue as the OC, Marshall as the DC and instead of building on that, boooom, bye-bye. So insert Coach Hue and he is expected to improve on that.
Well guess what, we also let the DC go and Hue didn’t have a choice in the matter. So since Hue couldn’t best Cable, the disfunctionallity of the Radiers fired him.
Some could say if Hue had a better DC we could have made it to the play-offs, and you are right. The DC cost us the play-offs.
If Cable was kept, we coulda built on that cuz Hue is a good OC. But in keeping with precident, Hue followed Cable.
So in other words, had Cable gone say 12-4, 13-3, he’d kept his job and Hue would still be OC. But we know how trigger happy management is, and Hue thus became HC, only to get fired in keeping with Raider management tradition.
It all reeks of bull schitt, horse schitt and sewer odor. Cuz inless Reggie reels in Moss for HC, we’re prolly lookin at 4-12 next year.
Whoop-D-fckin-do..
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I disagree. Cable got three seasons to prove himself. Hue got one. Cable had two terrible years then came the famous “we’re not losers anymore” proclimation after going 8-8. Not to mention the whole Randy Hanson incident.
Cable got far more chances than most coaches get. How many 9-19 coaches endure something like the Randy Hanson thing. Then, if they go 8-8 that year and their contract is up, how many are getting a new deal out of it.
Hue is at the opposite end of the spectrum. Almost never do coaches get fired after one season. Exponentially more rare if they go 8-8 that season. And unheard of if they have even a fraction of what Hue had to overcome with Al’s passing, becoming de facto GM, Campbell going down and DMac going down.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Well, Chris, it isn’t “unheard of” anymore.
Hue was axed, and we will be better off for it.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Players at the East/West Shrine game that I like as possible Round 3-5th round picks for Raiders:
Josh Kaddu- LB Oregon
Jerry Franklin- LB Arkansas
Tyrone Crawford- DL Boise State
Marc Tyler- RB USC
January 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, I disagree.
Cable got three seasons to prove himself. 2012 at 3:09 pm
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Three seasons?! What three seasons? Is that in New York time?
He got about a year and a half in anyone else’s time.
Regardless, Cable + Jackson = average coaches.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Face facts. Hue didn’t lose the lockerroom. There’s no proof of that. Hue didn’t deserve to get fired for performance issues.
It was exactly what Reggie said: “I want to bring in my own guy.”
And that and that alone is what this coaching search is all about.
People want to rationalize it and assume it’s a just decision and tell themselves that life is fair and if a guy got fired then, well, he must have done something to deserve it. But that’s not reality. Reality is Reggie got this opportunity and if he fails it’ll be the only one he gets. So he wants to bring in “his guy.” That means a guy he’s comfortable with. Probably a guy he has a history with. A guy that’s beholden to him. And a guy who doesn’t threaten his authority or his share of the credit if things go well.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Chris,How many rookie head coaches have their team collapse, lose the lockeroom, lblame evryone else and then walk up to the podium and demand more power. i have no issue with rookie head coaches getting a fair chance but Hue didnt posses many if any good qualities to be a good HC.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I was wondering if the college ranks held anymore Jim Harbaugh types. Those with the personality to win over a pro team.
I dont think Chip Kelly is one but Mike Gundy might be.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
OT Bobbie Massie from Ole Miss is another guy I like this year. More of a RG prospect, but I bet he can plat RT in the NFL.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Players at the East/West Shrine game that I like as possible Round 3rd-5th round picks for Raiders:
Josh Kaddu- LB Oregon
Jerry Franklin- LB Arkansas
Tyrone Crawford- DL Boise State
Marc Tyler- RB USC
January 21st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Face facts. Hue didn’t lose the lockerroom. There’s no proof of that. Hue didn’t deserve to get fired for performance issues.
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Cable went 8-8 and swept the division.
Hue went 8-8 the following year and didn’t sweep the division.
Maybe he was too busy having his toenails done.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:27 pm
I heard that Hue the Pimpin Magnificient was fired because he was seen rolling with Jerry Sandusky, naked from the waist down, and also:
1) He failed to remedy the “D” which he knew full well was sub-par unprofessional, with little talent;
2) He did not best Cable’s record in 2010 of 8/8;
3. He was a mercenary to his own cause and promotion;
4. He talked too much, without a basis to do so;
5. He orchestrated the “best trade in football” (best trade for CP and Bengals; worst trade for the Raiders) which blew up in his face.
6. He made unfounded and outrageous claims and promises about the club making the playoffs;
7. He made unfounded and outrageous implications that he alone controlled the club and would be back as HC, GM, and OC next year.
8. He didn’t have the ability, talent, or intelligence to be a HC, or to manage the club toward dynasty;
9. His play calling was insubstantial, and often ridiculous as was his time and penalty management.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Nick Jean-Baptiste- NT/DT Baylor 6′1, 330lbs
This guy would be a good 3rd or 4th round pick for Raiders.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
OT Bobbie Massie from Ole Miss is another guy I like this year. More of a RG prospect, but I bet he can plat RT in the NFL.
Players at the East/West Shrine game that I like as possible Round 3rd-5th round picks for Raiders:
Josh Kaddu- LB Oregon
Jerry Franklin- LB Arkansas
Tyrone Crawford- DL Boise State
Marc Tyler- RB USC
January 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Hue didnt have Performance issues, cmon..you lose 4 out of 5 , the last game at home which would have put you in the playoffs, your team blows 2nd half leads consistently, your team sets a record for penalties which you promised to fix ..dont know what performance means to you
January 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
If Reggie hires someone like Tice or Moronwig, or the Bronco’s or Saints guy, he has zero experience with those guys.
And I doubt he has the same agents as those either.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:35 pm
nycraider Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I cant wait for reggie to name a HC so all of Hue”s fan club can focus on the future. i dont get it. Please some one tell what good HC qualities did Hue possess that made him a HC we shouldnt have fired. Was he a great leader in the lockerroom, was he able to get his team to win clutch games,
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I tell you what…it’s tough to win clutch games when your defensive coordinator is someone who was out of the NFL for a few years and who allows teams to march down the field and score at will in the 4th quarter and who busts quite a few records of “Worst in the history of the Raiders”
January 21st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Nycraider, #526
Here is what performance means (to me;
1. working effectiveness: the way in which somebody does a job, judged by its effectiveness
2. thing accomplished: something that is carried out or accomplished
3. accomplishment of something: the act of carrying out or accomplishing something such as a task or action
January 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Defense was awful at times, but they played pretty well in wins against Denver, San Diego, and KC.
Same with Minny and the Bears. Not great offenses there, and got shaky at the end, but created turnovers.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
nycraider Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Hue didnt have Performance issues, cmon..you lose 4 out of 5 , the last game at home which would have put you in the playoffs, your team blows 2nd half leads consistently, your team sets a record for penalties which you promised to fix ..dont know what performance means to you
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Again…you have the defensive equivilant of Tom Walsh running the defense (which actually got WORSE after Mr. Davis died and stopped ‘controlling’ the “D”). That defense stops at least a team from marching 99.5 yards down the field. Or stops the Bills in the 4th quarter. Or the Lions for that matter. Or stops ANYBODY. We’re in the playoffs.
I can’t place the blame on Hue because he had NO SAY in his defensive coaching staff. If he had chosen that schmuck then of course it’s on him. It’s his hire. But, we all know it wasn’t and we all know it was a complete idiotic hire from the moment it took place.
And, despite having the WORST defensive coordinator in the league and a staff made up mostly of rookie coaches on defense of ex-raider players he STILL almost made the playoffs.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:35 pm
nycraider Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I cant wait for reggie to name a HC so all of Hue”s fan club can focus on the future. i dont get it. Please some one tell what good HC qualities did Hue possess that made him a HC we shouldnt have fired. Was he a great leader in the lockerroom, was he able to get his team to win clutch games,
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I tell you what…it’s tough to win clutch games when your defensive coordinator is someone who was out of the NFL for a few years and who allows teams to march down the field and score at will in the 4th quarter and who busts quite a few records of “Worst in the history of the Raiders”
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chick b did suck but maybe a good HC would have spent more time on the D..instead of distancing himself and blaming it on everyone but him
January 21st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
And the offense didn’t play well in the losses to the Patriots, Chiefs, Dolphins and Packers.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Hue is at the opposite end of the spectrum. Almost never do coaches get fired after one season. Exponentially more rare if they go 8-8 that season. And unheard of if they have even a fraction of what Hue had to overcome with Al’s passing, becoming de facto GM, Campbell going down and DMac going down.
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When J. Camp went down Hue arranged the trade for Palmer.
DMAC went out but M.Bush almost had a 1000 yd season.
DHB damn near had a break out season
Coach cuts Hagen for TJ.
Coach doesn’t utilize the four TE’s
Coach doesn’t utilize Reece
Coach on 2nd down and 2 runs the ball to Bush for 3 yds instead of taking a shot down field.
Coach can’t contain penalties
Coach who is the qb coach doesn’t have time to coach Palmer
Coach who thinks he is GM and can’t maintain disipline on the defensive side
Coach on 4th and goal goes for it instead of the easy 3
Coach in the 2nd Denver game gets out coached because he didn’t make any adjustments.
The list is too long. I understand players got hurt but WTF happened to next man up. Bush and DHB were still in it to win.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I wonder who will find work first, Chuck or Hue?
January 21st, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Hue, was charged with performance of the “D”, as HC.
After AL died Hue did whatever he wanted. Instead of focusing on, and re-formulating the “D” he accomplished “football’s greatest trade” which left the club indebted for years to come to a has been QB who quit on the Bengals that paid CP over $120M over the past 8 seasons.
Hue’s performance wasn’t insubstantial, it was a failure to perform, not only regarding the “D” but on many levels as stated in my post #529. In the language of contracts same lack of performance is known as material breach.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Josh Norman is one of the few CB’s I would like for the Raiders in Round 3 or 4. He is big and physical, maybe a conversion guy to safety.
I also really like OLB Cordarro Law from Southern Miss. He would fit the 3-4 scheme more though 6′2, 265 and his strong, physical and athletic.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
On a slightly related note, it’s being reported on Twitter that Paterno’s about to pass on.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Face facts. Hue didn’t lose the lockerroom. There’s no proof of that. Hue didn’t deserve to get fired for performance issues.
It was exactly what Reggie said: “I want to bring in my own guy.”
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Did Reggie know who ‘his guy’ is/was and what type of ‘his guy’ is he looking for?
I think Hue should have been kept for:
-having a GM to ‘manage’ him
-he would have learned from his mistakes (granted there were a number of them)
-givin they play calls to Al S.
-got a competent DC
-allowed some consitancy to remain for at least one more year.
But it is what it is. Just hope the new HC instills some hard core disciplines and values.
Times wasting.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Hue the Pimpin Magnificient, broke a cardinal Raider Rule, when, in the wake of the SD debacle, (the outcome of which I predicted 3 weeks in advance) he came to the podium, and, admitted: 1) after the Buffalo loss he knew the nature of the team (to give up big leads), implying that he also knew the team wasn’t playoff bound; 2) threw the defensive roster under the bus; 3) used the phrase “pissed-off” multiple times; 4) made startling claims, the implication of which was that he needed more power and would be HC, GM and OC next season.
Hue is a pimp, a defrauder, a liar: in essence, a loud-mouthed bully, who could not deal with the results he himself created.
And after all that hot air, he produces an 8/8 record -same as Cable whom he dethroned.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
On a slightly related note, it’s being reported on Twitter that Paterno’s about to pass on.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/joe-paternos-first-interview-since-the-penn-state-sandusky-scandal/2012/01/13/gIQA08e4yP_story.html
January 21st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
I’m not going to keep saying how good Hue is. I think his body of work gives him the opportunity to have another year with his choice of DC. That’s all I’m sayin’. He’s learning on the job and kept us competitive and with a half-way-descent “D” would be in the playoffs. One year ain’t right…
But even more importantly, I just want to see that whomever replaces him is better than he would have been.
I ain’t seen that yet with who he interviewed. That’s why I’m speaking up so much.
I believe that Hue deserved another shot. I’m not shouting out how ritcheous he was. He wasn’t perfect. He made some stupid decisions. But despite the biggest sabotage in the universe (having the WORST Defensive Coordinator in the league shoved down his throat and his NEVER having coached the defensive side of the ball) he almost had us in the playoffs. That’s a pluspoint no matter what you’re saying. And he overcame MAJOR injuries to our QB, RB and top two WRs for half the year and still somehow kept us competitive despite that defensive major deficiency.
Now, again, he wasn’t perfect. Fine…but the new person better give us more opportunity to win. And the reason I’m personally speaking up is that the candidates he’s chosen so far do NOT show me that better chance to win. Maybe he finds a better one down the road with his SLOW decision making process. If so than GREAT! I’m already happy to move on from the Hue Jackson Era. But…come on…let’s find someone or at least interview people that MIGHT be an upgrade then.
January 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Wow! From the power hungry maximus, building a bully and getting a mani-pedi on the throne…To can even get a waterboy gig?
What happened?
January 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7487597/spokesman-says-joe-paterno-condition-serious-further-complications
January 21st, 2012 at 4:02 pm
There really should be a new post of some kind. Anything.
“Morningwheg inteview TODAY” “Today” was yesterday.
Shoot. Make up something.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I seem to remember the re-tread Bilichick, passed over by many teams, like our own, as a washout.
Maybe some of these guys we’re interviewing could use a second chance!
January 21st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
raiderzmaverick #542:
It is a mystery to me how you justify giving the Pimpin Magnificient the 2nd year on his contract. He made critical and material errors that we, simple and unprofessional bloggers, would not have made. When one holds him or herself out as a professional, or an expert, that person must then perform at that self-declared level. Anything less is grounds for dismissal.
Besides, Pimpin Hue came away with the balance of his contract of $2M, for a contractual total of $4M.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
#542,
Fair post.
I don’t quite understand the hate and vitriol toward Hue.
Seems like some of the same guys that find it intolerable that Hue didn’t take us to the playoffs (even with all the obstacles, and there were many) are some of the same ones saying we need to be patient for a rebuilding process.
I’m disappointed in Hue for not winning the West; it was right there for the taking, but what I saw was a defensive coor. who allowed us to have just 10 men on the field during that critical game at Houston on the last play and could not scheme his way out of a paper bag.
I don’t get the outright hatred of Hue.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
djohnnyg #548:
I think the motivation for outright hatred of Hue derives from the fact that he misrepresented certain facts, in order to steal our dreams.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
When u compare what Chicago gave up for Cutler and AZ. for Kevin “freaking” Kolb, the Palmer deal doesn’t look as bad.
IMO Palmer is better than both of them.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Aw man, I think most people were good with the offense that Hue produced, but was anyone surprised with the firing after that CRAZY-AZZ last presser? Dude sounded like a lunatic.
In watching the NFL for 30+ I have never seen anything like it!
Dude was throwing his Current Defense, Former Owner/”mentor”, current owner/son of Davis, all under the bus, AT THE SAME TIME he was demanding more power!
If he pulls a Billicheat and says “we need to improve,” “we did not make plays” “Its my fault,” etc. etc. etc. –>HE PROBABLY STILL HAS A JOB.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Link to the game anyone?
January 21st, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Smee, #544:
Thanks for the link. Maybe it’s better Paterno goes quickly: for him and us. He’s had a darn good run, but now it’s over.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
raidertalk #551,
good and correct post
January 21st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
djohnnyg
I’ve been meaning to ask…what do you do at the radio station?
My Dad works for radio bilingue (spanish station) in Mid Cal,
just wondering.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
edward teach Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Per Bill Williamson…
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that former Oakland coach Hue Jackson was bypassed for the St. Louis offensive coordinator job. The paper reports new Rams coach Jeff Fisher picked former Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer over Jackson.
That has to be a tough blow for a former head coach to be bypassed in favor of a former offensive coordinator. There are other offensive coordinator jobs available, so perhaps Jackson will land somewhere. As of now, there has not been any reported interest in Jackson, including in Kansas City, where the Chiefs are looking for an offensive coordinator.
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Why would KC be AT ALL interested in jackson? The lst time they played, he put up NOTHING! NADA. ZERO. ZILCH. NOONKA. The second time it took extra time to get 16 points. One touchdown in two games. An average of 8 points a game. Plus, he threw a guy out there who had one practice, hardly any reps, just to save his own ass. Plus he had a guy who he had coached for a couple of seasons and he could not get that guy remotely ready. The only reason Pioli and Crennel would bring him in would be to piss all over him from the balcony of the hotel as Hue arrives.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Palmer is not better than Cutler
January 21st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
When u compare what Chicago gave up for Cutler and AZ. for Kevin “freaking” Kolb, the Palmer deal doesn’t look as bad.
IMO Palmer is better than both of them.
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Palmer is waaaaay better than both of them.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
555.Raiders for life Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
djohnnyg
I’ve been meaning to ask…what do you do at the radio station?
My Dad works for radio bilingue (spanish station) in Mid Cal,
just wondering.
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I’m an announcer (Dj) on a classic rock station.
I used to be a talk show host on an AM station, but those spots are few and far between anymore.
Everything is syndicated stuff now; Hannity, Limbaugh etc.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
djohnnyg #550:
Bears and Cardinals got shafted too. Lack of expertise and pure football instinct is the cause. That’s why both clubs are in the doldrums. It relates to the Raiders too: same thing. Do you actually think the 49′ers, Pat’s, Raven’s or Giants would have been stuck with such a deal?
The nature of an agreement is the bargain: “bar-gain” means to bar, gain; both sides theoretically receive equal consideration in the deal. The reality is that it rarely happens. That is why the Raiders took the loss on this bargain while CP and Bengals took heavy gain.
CP will never perform better than he did this past half season with the raiders. He is aged, beat-up, almost totally immobile and unelusive in the pocket, and cannot scramble. That is not to say I advocate a running QB like Vick, but notice Alex Smith’s scrambling touchdown last weekend; it changed the face of the game.
In essence CP is a single dimension QB who will continue to be up and down, throwing too many int’s.
CP was a horrible deal for the Raiders. If Hue hadn’t panicked, the combination of Boller and Pryor would have produced the same record after JC went down.
FYI, I feel JC is a schlub, a competent game manager who would have never led us into the playoffs.
Also, in their 8 wins, it can truly be said that the Raiders had 6 wins against bottom tier teams. Once we reached up into top tier teams, our cause was hopeless.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Seymour Bush, #556:
Great post: excellent reasoning, lol.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Hey now whats good up in here?
January 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I got 4 tickets for the NFC Title game tomorrow,…600 per…San Mateo. Lower reserved.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
453.GG Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
I heard Tressel will be interviewing with Oakland as well as Indy.
If this is true, it would put the icing on the cake that we’re looking at trading Palmer, returning Campbell maybe, and fast-tracking Pryor to start.
As someone astutely observed, that most our HC candidates have experience developing mobile QBs.
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Or, Pryor will be groomed to replace Palmer and the offense will be gradually built around him. I think this is the more likely scenario; Green Bay could have traded Rodgers at any time and they stuck to their guns until it was time to move on from Favre.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Good Christ I read this blog, theres much better Raider blogs out there guys. This blog seems like a haven for the men who arent even fans really, just bitter guys needing a place to lob insults at each other…sad cast of characters in here fo sho. Enjoy the game tomorrow though,..and hopefully some fool with take the vacant head coaching job,..not that it will matter,…some teams, and fan bases, are born to lose.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Good Christ I read this blog, theres much better Raider blogs out there guys. This blog seems like a haven for the men who arent even fans really, just bitter guys needing a place to lob insults at each other…sad cast of characters in here fo sho. Enjoy the game tomorrow though,..and hopefully some fool with take the vacant head coaching job,..not that it will matter,…some teams, and fan bases, are born to lose.
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Got any URLs?
January 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Edward, reread that post of yours. You truly are clueless. In my opinion, not a Raider fan clearly, Hue was a decent enough coach to keep, the Raiders will NEVER have a winning season again, so it doesnt matter, but Hue was entertaining, you at least had that. But you guys will hire some fool that will be boring, and will lose. Sorry.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Re-hire Hue. Do the right thing. Re-hire Hue.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Google Raider blogs sir,..have you heard of Google? Enjoy the game tomorrow,..it will look odd to you though,..its real football,..you havent seen it before probably in your lifetime.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Congo,…even though that will not happen it would be great for you guys. But not happening…and Winston Moss is a disaster,…hes Mike Singletary,…prepare for 3-13, with less penalties. Zzzzzz…
January 21st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Google Raider blogs sir,..have you heard of Google? Enjoy the game tomorrow,..it will look odd to you though,..its real football,..you havent seen it before probably in your lifetime.
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Oh, you’re a troll. Never mind. Enjoy your blowout by Eli tomorrow :p
January 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Must roll, getting the gear ready for tomorrow,..the tix I mentioned are in craigslist/SF….San Mateo in the location…600 per, not a cent less….goin to the Superbowl!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Google Raider blogs sir,..have you heard of Google? Enjoy the game tomorrow,..it will look odd to you though,..its real football,..you havent seen it before probably in your lifetime.
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This one is BY FAR the best and most populist one with intellectual depth ALL ACROSS THE MUTHAFCKIN BOARD.
HHHHEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLL YYYYYEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
No blog anywhere gets as many hits as does this Raida blag. Thats why jer and cork tollerate the loon bin.
We just need some Raida wins to get this thang smokin……
Just Raida Baby!
January 21st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Face facts. Hue didn’t lose the lockerroom. There’s no proof of that. Hue didn’t deserve to get fired for performance issues.
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2010 8-8 hc fired
2011 8-8 performance enough?
January 21st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, I disagree.
Cable got three seasons to prove himself. 2012 at 3:09 pm
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Three seasons?! What three seasons? Is that in New York time?
He got about a year and a half in anyone else’s time.
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Um, Cable had 44 games as head coach of the Raiders. A season and a half would = 24 games.
No, he didn’t have a full three seasons, he had 2.75. Close enough, IMO.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
We beat Eli a couple months ago,..tomorrow will be a cake walk. Superbowl…oh by the way, Jim Harbaugh,…you guys didnt want to interview him last January…how did that work out for you? Enjoy the game tomorrow loser.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Sure its a great blog for you Bumpin, its a blog of losers that throw insults at each other,..you fit right in. Sucks to be a Raider fan with no life.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Face facts. Hue didn’t lose the lockerroom. There’s no proof of that. Hue didn’t deserve to get fired for performance issues.
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2010 8-8 hc fired
2011 8-8 performance enough?
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Let me just modify that and see if this makes sense:
2010 8-8 hc (who was 17-27 over three seasons, celebrated “not being losers anymore” after going 8-8 and probably broke an assistant coach’s jaw inside team facilities) did not get his contract renewed.
2011 8-8 hc fired
January 21st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Cable had Jawalrus. Hue had JC and CP. Not even close of a comparison. We were lucky we scored any points with Jawalrus, DHB and that sorry a$$ Oline at that time.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I was wondering if the college ranks held anymore Jim Harbaugh types. Those with the personality to win over a pro team.
I dont think Chip Kelly is one but Mike Gundy might be.
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Chris Peterson. One of the best coaches on any level, IMO.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Chris,
You want performance? Is winning or losing a good indicator of performance for you?
99% of Raider fans thought we had a good enough team in 2010 to make the playoff INCLUDING YOU.
We had an even better roster in 2011 and we finished 8-8. Couldnt even improve on one game.
Stop with your BS excuses. Hue couldnt even get an OC job with the Rams. That should tell you something. The only place/person that thought Hue was worthy was Al Davis. Al had nobody in the league worth a lick willing to coach under him. The whole world knew that.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
COMEDY CENTRAL
January 21st, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Hue didnt have the owner of the team deducting his pay during the season like Cable had. Cable still finished decent for the first time in 7 yrs in Oakland. Hue was the defacto football guy in Oakland since October 8 and he FAILED.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
567.AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Edward, reread that post of yours. You truly are clueless. In my opinion, not a Raider fan clearly, Hue was a decent enough coach to keep, the Raiders will NEVER have a winning season again, so it doesnt matter, but Hue was entertaining, you at least had that. But you guys will hire some fool that will be boring, and will lose. Sorry.
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January 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
That was weird. My computer just sort of took on a life of its own for a second.
Anyway. To respond to your post AlexSmith; I wasn’t advocating anything. I was just speculating on how the Raiders would handle the QB situaion if they did hire Tressel.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
QB situation?…ok…but before you have QB situation you need a QB,…currently you dont have one.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
QB situation?…ok…but before you have QB situation you need a QB,…currently you dont have one.
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Compare Palmer’s career numbers with Alex Smith’s.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Patriots win in the morning, Niners win in blowout fashin in afternoon…Niners shut out Pats in Superbowl. Other prediction is the Raiders hire a head coach you will all hate, and ESPN will laugh about.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Patriots win in the morning, Niners win in blowout fashin in afternoon…Niners shut out Pats in Superbowl. Other prediction is the Raiders hire a head coach you will all hate, and ESPN will laugh about.
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HAHAHAHA. If you’re lucky, the Whiners will only lose by 3 or 4…touchdowns.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I can understand the angst in here, there are not many Raider fans that have a clue about what it takes to be successful in the NFL. Thirty years of losing will do that to you.
Be patient, eventually you will see that this is not the same old Raiders, it’s a whole new era.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Duck,…whos playing tomorrow, Alex or Carson,…who is leading his team to wins and who quit on his team a year ago…you really are a loser buddy,…but thanks for the laughs.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Ok Duck, thats a bold prediction. I bet you made the same one when the Raiders were playing, at home, for the division,…oops. Lmao.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
586.AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
QB situation?…ok…but before you have QB situation you need a QB,…currently you dont have one.
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Well, there are three on the roster. My guess is that one of them will be gone before the season starts next year, but I don’t think it’ll be Palmer or Pryor.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Pryor, hmmm,…not a NFL QB by any stretch,..and Palmer, hes a quitter who the team he quit on instantly became a team and made it to the playoffs. No coincidence.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
I disagree that the Bears gave up too much for Cutler. You won’t find a QB of his caliber in the mid to late 1st round (where the Bears usually draft).
Palmer, I think we just gave a tad too much for. Just a bit, nothing crazy.
Kolb? Yup, that was a fleecing. He had like 6 good quarters of football under his belt.
Matt Flynn will be the next Kevin Kolb.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Duck,…whos playing tomorrow, Alex or Carson,…who is leading his team to wins and who quit on his team a year ago…you really are a loser buddy,…but thanks for the laughs.
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Loser??? I’M not the one trolling another team’s message boards. Now go spank it to a Crabtree photo.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I think we are kind of stuck with Palmer. If we can get two decent years out of him that would be okay.
We’ve had worse.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
AlexSmith:
You are correct regarding the SF victory tomorrow. Of course everyone wants to jump upon the bandwagon after NY beats GB last week and proclaim that NY will be victorious. However, life is never so simple.
NY was the beneficiary of a GB team which was damaged by the 1st seed, 2 week layoff: they played an anxious, dispirited game, and appeared both de-energized and lazy.
I am sure that the predatory antics of Reggie McKenzie as to the ranks of exec’s and coaches didn’t help GB’s collective state of mind. Also, the fact that the son of an important coach drowned, did GB no good.
Bottom line is that NY didn’t earn a victory. Their “D” was nowhere near as provocative or robust as was the 49′ers over the Saints. One thing is certain; playing the 49′ers, will be to NY, like sticking it’s head directly into a buzz saw.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Palmer will be starting, and Pryor will be the #3, unless we draft a rookie in the middle rounds and let them compete for the backup job.
Palmer has proven to be pretty durable over his career. He didn’t miss a snap for years there, so I don’t think there is as much need for a quality #2 like there were here in years past with either garbage at QB (Jamarcus), a guy with a penchant for dings and missing drives and/or games (Soup) or someone who was both (Gradkowksi).
January 21st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
So what happened with Morninhweg?
January 21st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Scroll up, I came to mention playoff tix I have on SF`s craigslist…thought maybe you sorry fans might like to go to a title game,..seeing how if the Raiders ever make it to the playoffs again, say in ten years or so, it will be in L.A.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
C’mon Giants
January 21st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The Niners defense is an A+, unlike the Packers. It’s going to be too close to call.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
The Giants are coming out for a butt whoopin,..they did it two months ago, they know the drill. NinerNation.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Bewareofraiders?…seriously?…beware of what?…sad blog name.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Scroll up, I came to mention playoff tix I have on SF`s craigslist
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So you are actually not a fan, you’re just a lame Whiner profiteer. Here, I’ll give you 100 bucks for all four. You might as well take it, you’ll probably just end up eating the tickets anyway.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I think I am more excited for the New Mexico-UNLV game tonight than the 49ers-Giants.
What a snoozer that is for a championship game.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I want the giants to destroy the 49ers sunday cant stand the fans
January 21st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Just Fire Baby #599
You might be listening to Corky too much regarding his assessment of Pryor. And you are incorrect about CP: he has suffered several season ending injuries, knee and ankle. Also, CP is a one demensional QB who remains statuesque in the pocket, immobile and un-elusive. Also, he literally never scrambles.
CP will never do better than he did for us this season. That doesn’t mean he is a complete bust, but he is what he is, and we’ve seen the best he can be.
Over the past 29 seasons since the Raiders last won the SB, we have not had a champion caliber QB, (except for Rich Gannon). Thus we suffered 21 losing seasons out of the past 29.
QB is the key; what we have now does not measure up. Let’s try Pryor to test his potential. May as well just get it done.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I like watching good football teams play the game, and while I root for the Raiders, they are not worth watching. Hopefully next season will be different.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I think I am more excited for the New Mexico-UNLV game tonight than the 49ers-Giants.
What a snoozer that is for a championship game.
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No doubt. And next year, the real Alex Smith will no doubt show up, and the Niners will be lucky to win 6 games.
And that “AlexSmith” troll will be nowhere to be found.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Alex Smith,
Timeline for the tix @ $600/per is growing thin, my friend. Maybe you think about discounting, so not to suffer a complete loss.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I think I am more excited for the New Mexico-UNLV game tonight than the 49ers-Giants.
What a snoozer that is for a championship game.
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Are you kidding? That is going to be a HARD HITTING game. I love hard hitting games. It’s something Raider fans haven’t seen for about 10 years.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Alex Smith is awesome, is 2-0 against The Raiders…going to easily beat the Giants then be the SB MVP,…only reason you call tomorrows game a snoozer is because youre terrified of our success,..you are all losers. Nighty night. NinerNation
January 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Alex Smith is a free agent at the end of this NFC Championship game. Say hello to the Denver Bronco’s new starter, errr, a healthy competition with Teblow’s.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Just Fire Baby #599
You might be listening to Corky too much regarding his assessment of Pryor. And you are incorrect about CP: he has suffered several season ending injuries, knee and ankle. Also, CP is a one demensional QB who remains statuesque in the pocket, immobile and un-elusive. Also, he literally never scrambles.
CP will never do better than he did for us this season. That doesn’t mean he is a complete bust, but he is what he is, and we’ve seen the best he can be.
Over the past 29 seasons since the Raiders last won the SB, we have not had a champion caliber QB, (except for Rich Gannon). Thus we suffered 21 losing seasons out of the past 29.
QB is the key; what we have now does not measure up. Let’s try Pryor to test his potential. May as well just get it done.
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Odds on starting QB next season:
- Carson Palmer 50%
- Matt Flynn 35%
- Anyone else 14.9%
- Terrell Pryor 0.1%
If Pryor plays well in camp and the preseason he could emerge as a No. 2 with promise or even a No. 3 with promise. If he looks real bad he could get a position change.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
I doubt that Smith will leave SF and Harbaugh. He must realize that he’s in a good spot.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
If Tressel gets the HC job here, I don’t believe it would mean a phasing out of Carson Palmer. I think Tressel would be brought in more for just commanding respect from the players and leading men.
The new OC would call plays and the DC would control the defense. Tressel would simply rally the troops, punt or go for it on 4th down, and throw the challenge flag. That’s how I see it.
If you really think about it. That is exactly what former special teams coach John Harbaugh does for the Ravens.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
On Hue Jackon’s final presser. The guy had his heart fully into the season. You telling me you never lost and been TOTALLY pissed afterwards. I prefer that and letting it out than someone who isn’t committed to winning and is lackadasical about the whole thing.
Yeah, he said some stupid stuff. He was pissed.
So…who’s our next HC again?
January 21st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
614.AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Alex Smith is awesome, is 2-0 against The Raiders…going to easily beat the Giants then be the SB MVP,…only reason you call tomorrows game a snoozer is because youre terrified of our success,..you are all losers. Nighty night. NinerNation
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Crickets, churp churp
January 21st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
If Tressel gets the HC job here, I don’t believe it would mean a phasing out of Carson Palmer. I think Tressel would be brought in more for just commanding respect from the players and leading men.
The new OC would call plays and the DC would control the defense. Tressel would simply rally the troops, punt or go for it on 4th down, and throw the challenge flag. That’s how I see it.
If you really think about it. That is exactly what former special teams coach John Harbaugh does for the Ravens.
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That’s why I consider Pagano (Defensive Coordinator Ravens) a descent shot for a HC. He must be damned good as he doesn’t have one of those purely defensive-minded head coaches, and yet the defense is always in the top 5.
And, Pagano when he was with the Raiders as the Secondary coach had the #1 pass defense in the NFL.
January 21st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Seymour,
I hate the 49ers and Giants, but don’t hate them enough to be all that interested.
I will root for the Giants, and anticipate a complete snoozer of a second half.
Go Lobo’s!!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
AlexSmith Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Alex Smith is awesome, is 2-0 against The Raiders…going to easily beat the Giants then be the SB MVP,…only reason you call tomorrows game a snoozer is because youre terrified of our success,..you are all losers. Nighty night. NinerNation
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Alex Smith is a mediocre, game manager quarterback. He’s comparable to a Jason Campbell, maybe a little better than Matt Cassel. Not as many mistakes as Kyle Orton but not as big a threat though.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I think most people in the league have figured out Hue Jackson. We are going to have to wait and see if he is as good as some of you think he is.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
On Hue Jackon’s final presser. The guy had his heart fully into the season. You telling me you never lost and been TOTALLY pissed afterwards. I prefer that and letting it out than someone who isn’t committed to winning and is lackadasical about the whole thing.
Yeah, he said some stupid stuff. He was pissed.
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I completely agree with you. But Carson Palmer was saying he did not meet with the Q’s nearly enough, he clearly was not involved with the defense, and Jon Condo drew up the special teams blocks in KC not Jackson. I am sure Jackson was totally into it, I’m just wondering what the fook he was doing with his time?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Wow. Paterno just died. Sad way to go out. I guess he is off the list.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Experienced QBs’ (Brady and Eli) earn the right to go to the SB. Inexperienced Flacco and Smith lose out.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
On Hue Jackon’s final presser. The guy had his heart fully into the season. You telling me you never lost and been TOTALLY pissed afterwards. I prefer that and letting it out than someone who isn’t committed to winning and is lackadasical about the whole thing.
Yeah, he said some stupid stuff. He was pissed.
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I completely agree with you. But Carson Palmer was saying he did not meet with the Q’s nearly enough, he clearly was not involved with the defense, and Jon Condo drew up the special teams blocks in KC not Jackson. I am sure Jackson was totally into it, I’m just wondering what the fook he was doing with his time?
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Umm, he was the playcaller the last two seasons when we finished top 5 and top 10 in offense. You also had veterans like Seymour and Houshmanzadeh (who also noted Palmer) as saying Hue was a great coach who was really on top of things.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I told you guys he was running Cable’s offense last year, and installed his own offense this year. And he went backwards. With much better players. What does that tell you?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Seymour (Post 625). I know what you mean in that he should’ve gotten more involved in the Defense. Maybe was thinking he could blame it on Bresnehan – or was just pissed he was stuck with such a loser and didn’t know what to do about it mid season. Probably aggrivating as hell.
I haven’t seen him at any level coaching defense so it’s probably not his strong point…but that would be fine if we had a good defensive coordinator.
I think he was full of hot air. Made promised he couldn’t or didn’t keep (like handling the penalties). But overall I’m still of the opinion that until I see someone better hired, that it was stupid to fire him.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I told you guys he was running Cable’s offense last year, and installed his own offense this year. And he went backwards. With much better players. What does that tell you?
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He was running CABLE’s Offense LOL…come on! That’s hilarious. Look at the year before and “Cable’s Offense”. It was flat-out offensive.
You can knock the man many ways. That ain’t one of them.
Cable’s Offense had Dmac as a “major bust” and none of the offensive weapons were clicking.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I’ll let you guys argue about whether HJ was a great offensive coach or not,but I do have a question.Should someone be considered an offensive guru if his offensives are outscored 3 to 1 in the second half of games the way Hue’s were?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Joe Pat did die! That was quick. Anyone hear he was seen with Sandusky, pants down around his knees ?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:17 pm
I think Mac needs to go to Washington state and hire the whole coaching staff of the University of Washington. Looks like Sarkasian is putting together one hell of a coaching staff.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Hue the Pimpin Magnificient was a literal idiot in the offensive realm, came in from the Ravens legacy. The Ravens never won anything through offense but by defense only.
I always wondered what the rap about Pimpin was, coming from the Ravens.
Totall illiogical.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I’m cracking up about Pimpin losing out at the Rams. They were way smart. He should keep pimpin and whoring, his fat black, naked azz in the air. Maybe he can become OC of the “houseflies”.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
with a stank like that, he should be successful!
January 21st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Another thing-why is Cable blamed for playing Fargas over McFadden when McFadden was injured,yet when HJ played Bush over McFadden because he was hurt the blame is on McFadden.And don’t bring up Bush because the Raiders were essentially red-shirting him plus under Cable backs were required to block and we all know Bush can’t block.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I told you guys he was running Cable’s offense last year, and installed his own offense this year. And he went backwards. With much better players. What does that tell you?
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He was running CABLE’s Offense LOL…come on! That’s hilarious. Look at the year before and “Cable’s Offense”. It was flat-out offensive.
You can knock the man many ways. That ain’t one of them.
Cable’s Offense had Dmac as a “major bust” and none of the offensive weapons were clicking.
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“Cables” offense had Jamarcus, Luke Lawton, Fargas a non existent Javon Walker, DHB and Murphy as rookies and Mario Henderson at LT. “Jackson’s” had Campbell, an improved DMac, Jacoby Ford, Marcel Reece and Veldheer at LT. Which group would you rather have?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Most likely Lefty, DMAC is perceived as a malingerer?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I think he was full of hot air. Made promised he couldn’t or didn’t keep (like handling the penalties). But overall I’m still of the opinion that until I see someone better hired, that it was stupid to fire him.
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Honestly, I think we will be fine. We will get someone in here who can win.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seymour Bush,
Pimpin back slid on offense considering the upgrade he had in personnel over Cable.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
In any case DHB is still crap; he catches the ball and gains yds but doesn’t win games, either coughs it up or drops it. He still has to trap the ball against his body.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Al,He is now.But as you can see by some of the comments above,when he malingered under Cable it was Cable’s fault for playing his backup and ’sitting’ McFadden.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
veldheer 2012 pro-bowl left tackle
January 21st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
And especially aggrevating is that after a cough up or a drop, you see him smiling along the sidelines.
grrrrr…..I think he needs to go, ushered out with the ax handle upside the head, eggs clipped at the city limits.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Lefty, I am not saying DMAC is a malingerer, I feel he is perceived as one.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
In any case, I think it’s time to trade DMAC due to serial foot problems and the missing of major chunks of the season. The problem with DMAC is that he runs right through bottom tier teams but is fully throttled against at the higher level.
We should trade him quickly for several picks before hurts himself walking home from the supermarket tonight.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I wonder how long Joe Pa was dying?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Since he was fired.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Whether he is or not isn’t the point.The point is Cable sat him when he was injured and gets blamed for playing his backup.HJ sat him while he was injured and many use that as an excuse for HJ’s failure.Same circumstances,different evaluations based on like or dislike of an individual.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
chemo + hospital stay = certain death
January 21st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
lefty12 #651:
True enough Lefty
January 21st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
In free agency:
Get Wells the GB center, leave Wisniewski at guard.
Tolbert from SD as a replacement for Bush.
Hill the NT from Detroit.
ILB either Hawthorne from Seattle or Conner from Carolina.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Probably the chemo is what actually killed him. Chemo is a homicide waiting to happen.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Twocents #655
For godsakes man, why would you want Tolbert as a replacement for Bush? Bush gained 1000 yds mostly against top tier teams.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Plus Bush is not an every down back as was proven this season. When he gets gassed he fumbles.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
it’s amazing how folks are still hating on DHB after the productive year he had . less catches than crabtree yet more yards. he still going to be better as a receiver. the funny thing is cliff branch would catch and drop passes his first 3 years in the league. and became one of our all time greats. and deserve to be in the hall.
dhb has got alot better in his pass routes, catching and the kid is strong and hard to tackle. he is a weapon on our offense. for some reason hue benched towards late in the season ; but he clearly showed he’s better than murphy . the receiver who was disappointing was schillen and murphy . murphy kinda show no heart and has alligator arms going across the middle.dhb still has upside.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Bush won’t block and wore down when he had to carry the laod. Let someone else pay him big bucks.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Or use them (DAMC and Bush) as The Giants use Bradshaw and Jacobs…
January 21st, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Twocents:
If McGlassden hadn’t injured his lil toe and sat out 9 games Bush could have enjoyed the role he deserved: secondary back, bull-in-the-china cabinet, thunder to DMAC’s lightening.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Almost positive we are going to play some kind of hybrid 3-4 next year. I hope we land Bowles as our DC.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
No update on the interview yesterday?…Mark taking a dump and losing his weed? F**K!!! Anything?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
All this hate on Hue is wrong man, aint right. Its just the way the cookie crumbled, kinda like the defense. Crumbled.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
space man spiff #659,
Space Man…..hmmmmmm……let’s see, in his 3rd season Branch caught 62 passes for 1062 with 16 TDs.
DHB in his 3rd season (this year) caught 64 passes for 974 with 4 TDs.
Remember, DHB had the ball force fed to him since he was AL’s pet.
Finally, as I said, he caught balls gained yds but rarely scored, and with the game on the line either coughed up or dropped the ball: witness our last game against the Bolts. He lost that game for us.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Corkran doesn’t work weekends and Jer is concentrating on the NFC game.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
666
January 21st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Space Man that was 1062 and 974 yards ****, respectively.
Also I seem to recall that Crabtree made a critical TD against the Saints last weekend. Does that tell you anything ?
January 21st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
witness our last game against the Bolts. He lost that game for us.
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Revisionist history!
January 21st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I told you guys he was running Cable’s offense last year, and installed his own offense this year. And he went backwards. With much better players. What does that tell you?
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He was running CABLE’s Offense LOL…come on! That’s hilarious. Look at the year before and “Cable’s Offense”. It was flat-out offensive.
You can knock the man many ways. That ain’t one of them.
Cable’s Offense had Dmac as a “major bust” and none of the offensive weapons were clicking.
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“Cables” offense had Jamarcus, Luke Lawton, Fargas a non existent Javon Walker, DHB and Murphy as rookies and Mario Henderson at LT. “Jackson’s” had Campbell, an improved DMac, Jacoby Ford, Marcel Reece and Veldheer at LT. Which group would you rather have?
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The talent is better now, but the success was also the result of play calling and putting guys in position to do what they do best.
- McFadden was being called a bust after two seasons. Cable wasn’t even giving him 10 touches per game behind Fargas, even when healthy. There was an instant transformation in McFadden when Hue took over. I don’t think it was a coincidence.
- Campbell is a QB we got for a 4th round pick two years out. He was horrendous in his first few games and most of the first season. Gradkowski was a veteran minimum free agent QB. Between the two of them back and forth we somehow averaged 26 ppg.
- Marcel Reece has been here for 4 or 5 seasons. It wasn’t until Hue came along that he started to actually be utilized.
- DHB is still not very polished. Definitely better thanks largely to his hard work, but I also believe Hue put him in a better position to make plays this season and that had a large amount to do with it. No more deep bombs that DHB had to track down and use his hands to go up and get. Instead we used the threat of his speed to run defenders off and then break it off into an out or a stop pattern where he didn’t have to anticipate the flight of the ball but instead got it right in his hands where he could pick up yards after the catch.
It’s hard to differentiate how much of the improvement was a boost in talent level and how much was coaching. But I think it’s fair to say that both had plenty to do with going from a bottom 2 or 3 offense to a top 5 in one season.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Police will be dressed in Giants gear for the Halas Trophy game!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8262f9d3/article/49ers-take-zerotolerance-approach-after-saints-fans-complain
January 21st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I rated our offense as a C and our defense as a D-.
We have to upgrade our offense to a B+ and our defense has to improve to a C just to be competitive.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
GG…good!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Will DHB continue to improve now that Lal is gone? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?? DHB tweeterred he was not delighted about the exodus to NY but wished him well,
January 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Twocents #655
For godsakes man, why would you want Tolbert as a replacement for Bush? Bush gained 1000 yds mostly against top tier teams.
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Yeah. Tolbert is kinda garbage. I don’t think we should franchise Bush or pay him top dollar. Wouldn’t mind something in the $3-4 mil per year range for three years but that’s about how high I’d go.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
668 yeah it tells me crabtree made the playoffs. as i recall ford slipped carsons pass was intercepted.game over had nothing to do with dhb. branch had nore touchdowns. my point is he started off slow his first couple of years. people were calling him a bust back them. lets not throw dhb under the bus .he’s one of the few players on our team who is committed to getting better. it shows.
i don’t recall crabtree catching a touchdown aginst the saints. but i do notice him getting shutdown alot, and dropping passes against the saints . you make it seem like dhb sucks and is not trying but lets be real.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Crabtree caught the first TD against the Saints…after Sproles fumble, I believe!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
If Hue wasn’t such a great coach, why the hell did Mark fire him?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
cottovic Victor Cotto
Per La Canfora, Mike Waufle is now the #Raiders former defensive line coach. He’ll join J.Fisher’s staff in St. Louis. #Rams get good coach.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
675.Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Twocents #655
For godsakes man, why would you want Tolbert as a replacement for Bush? Bush gained 1000 yds mostly against top tier teams.
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Yeah. Tolbert is kinda garbage. I don’t think we should franchise Bush or pay him top dollar. Wouldn’t mind something in the $3-4 mil per year range for three years but that’s about how high I’d go.
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Tolbert looked pretty good when he made that 42 yard run against us when we had em pinned down. How many tackles did he break? A ton. If he is “garbage” than what the heck does that say about our POS defense? With everything on the line and down only five we let that “garbage” seal our season?
That is so pathetic it still makes me irate thinking about it.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
We’re definitely going to a 3-4 now with Wauffle leaving.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
cottovic Victor Cotto
Per La Canfora, Mike Waufle is now the #Raiders former defensive line coach. He’ll join J.Fisher’s staff in St. Louis. #Rams get good coach.
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Instead of building on a 8-8 mediocre .500 season and reloading, we just break it down and rebuild. 5-7 years baby.
Just re-build baby!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Wasbanned Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
cottovic Victor Cotto
Per La Canfora, Mike Waufle is now the #Raiders former defensive line coach. He’ll join J.Fisher’s staff in St. Louis. #Rams get good coach.
Here we go…
January 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
GG Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
We’re definitely going to a 3-4 now with Wauffle leaving.
I can see that…
Funny is, where did Spags go again?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
We lost one of our better coaches in Wauffle.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
683.hwnrdr Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Wasbanned Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
cottovic Victor Cotto
Per La Canfora, Mike Waufle is now the #Raiders former defensive line coach. He’ll join J.Fisher’s staff in St. Louis. #Rams get good coach.
Here we go…
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What do u mean?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
cottovic Victor Cotto
Per La Canfora, Mike Waufle is now the #Raiders former defensive line coach. He’ll join J.Fisher’s staff in St. Louis. #Rams get good coach.
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And we keep on waitin….tick…tick…tick…
January 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Our defense sucked major ass and we go and single out Hue for it. His last game presser was emotional and the cat was pissed. Don’t blame him for a word he said.
When a season is over and as a coach you talk to your team, its emotional. Then Hue has to face national press and explain the embarrassing breakdown.
I don’t blame him a bit and felt he should of had another year. The defense flat out stunk. Retool the D a bit with a new DC and all woulda been well.
Now where are we? Nowhere yet I’d venture.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Bliff Bliff Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
If Hue wasn’t such a great coach, why the hell did Mark fire him?
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To give Reggie his gut and slow thinking…damned I’m getting pessimistic. Normally not and give the guy the benefit of the doubt…it’s just the guys that he brought in so far as total crap! I hope he really has his eye on someone left in the playoffs that’s REALLY worth it.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Fisher can have our trainers if he wants.
A guy has a hang nail and he’s out 6-8 wks.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
and by the way…Paterno still alive and ticking…
January 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Space Man, #677
Regarding Crabtree’s TD catch – it came with 41 seconds in the 1st quarter last week:
San Francisco 0:41 Michael Crabtree 4 yd pass from Alex Smith (David Akers kick)
January 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
00raiders00 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Our defense sucked major ass and we go and single out Hue for it. His last game presser was emotional and the cat was pissed. Don’t blame him for a word he said.
When a season is over and as a coach you talk to your team, its emotional. Then Hue has to face national press and explain the embarrassing breakdown.
I don’t blame him a bit and felt he should of had another year. The defense flat out stunk. Retool the D a bit with a new DC and all woulda been well.
Now where are we? Nowhere yet I’d venture.
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exactly…
January 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Also, Joe Paterno is still alive, according to his family, but “fighing for his life.”
January 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Again and as usual, we will end up being the last org. to hire our new coach.
Not a departure from Mr. Davis.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
chris in ny: read alot of your post some i agree. but lets face it bro. hue jackson is gone lets move on. he failed. all he had to do was win one game ( denver at home, detroit winning by 13, sad diego for the playoffs). hue jackson never led this team. he never put his stamp on this team. it was his team.
he said he knew the defense sucked after the buffalo game but never took charge. not only should he have punched suck bresnahan in the face . he didn’t fire him after the detroit game. he was a wizzard with his special team tricks . let’s face it though “WE COULD HAVE MADE THE PLAYOFFS ” under his watch, but failed.
unexceptable !
January 21st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
I mean who’s next? But then again…may as well if the HC, whoever the heck that will be, gets to choose his staff!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Again and as usual, we will end up being the last org. to hire our new coach.
Not a departure from Mr. Davis.
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Traditionally we wait till last so the bargainning chips are in our favor. That’s why they come so cheap.
And Chucky, bet we got hime for a steal. Probably keep him as he makes good financial sense.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
#696, I agree. He should’ve done more. And I’m willing to move on. I just also don’t stand by while people are flat-out trashing the man.
I think he fought for the team. I think he had a VERY good grasp on the offense and turned it from a bunch of LOOSERS into a very productive unit.
I also think he’s not entirely at fault with the defensive coaching staff he was given to work with. I mean Art Shell hired and chose Tom Walsh so I totally blamed him for that crappy offense. I promise Bresnehan wasn’t Hue’s choice, and the HC should always at least get to chose his coaching staff.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Hue was right in everything he said at that last presser.
It was as he said… “a joke”.
He voiced everything I was feeling.
It was better than the usual b.s stuff.
-”We just came up short”.
-”I’m proud of my guys. We just didn’t get it done”.
Now I understand why HC’s always say those boring cliches…so they can keep their jobs.
I think some here have lost sight of how bad our defense let us down.
IMO the offense was enuff to get us into the playoffs.
Bres. and that POS defense was the problem.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
I mean who’s next? But then again…may as well if the HC, whoever the heck that will be, gets to choose his staff!
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Is there going to be any coaching talent left? And you can’t take someone from another team whos’ under contract if its not an upgrade? It stinks.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I always liked Waufle, he is a intellectual. But coaching NFL players is not exactly like teaching in college. It takes a different skill set. And then again you need smart players. Al was never big on drafting “smart” players.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
al d. (# 692) i believe he had 2 drops also. anyway F–K crabtree. F–k the forty- niners. bottom line dhb isn’t what’s wrong with the raiders.
satele,garbage. carlisle,garbage. barnes,garbage. seymore, garbage. suck bresnahan, garbage. his defense,garbage. run defense,garbage. pass defense, damn near garbage.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
700. Exactly. Then you’ve got guys like Steve who have a clear bias toward “Hubert”. Seems to have a genuine dislike for the man.
Considers him a lying self serving ladder climber.
Pretty sure some of that comes from people close to him but none the less seemed like a decnet guy who did not lose the locker room and got fired because Mark had his mind made up to revamp.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
GG Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
We’re definitely going to a 3-4 now with Wauffle leaving.
I can see that…
Funny is, where did Spags go again?
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Exactly, I thought we had a strong chance of getting Spagnuolo as DC because we had Wauffle. But McKenzie obviously wants to focus on a 3-4 defense. Which I don’t have a problem with. But yeah, the re-uniting of Spags/Wauffle was writing on the wall.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Everyone knows the D sucked,but don’t you think we could have won at least one more game if our offense hadn’t been outscored 3 to 1 in the 2nd half of games?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
post:699, the thing is when mr.davis died. he had his moment to take control. he did ala: carson palmer trade. yet there was no leadership on his part. i like hue jack,
but he should have came in and said i’m the boss. somewhere that wasn’t established. (record for penalties). everybody in the league knows we have know we have know discipline and we can’t stop the run . this is what kills us every year.
hue jack knew, said those areas would be addressed under his watch. HE FAILED. time to move on .
January 21st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Yeah, if our “D” didn’t give up 2 touchdown leads, I do think we could have won lefty.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Bliff Bliff Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
If Hue wasn’t such a great coach, why the hell did Mark fire him?
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Maybe he didn’t. Maybe Reggie was telling the truth when he said it was his call and it wasn’t about Hue, it was about Reggie “bringing in his own guy.”
Or maybe Mike Silver was right and Mark is in over his head.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
if…. we can establish a defense that can play solid. stop the run pressure the quarterback,consistantly to help the pass defense. build an offensive line to give palmer time. like gannon had.
establish kevin boss more in the offense (which hue jack didn’t do). we’re not that far away. until my next post…………. ” peace out b—-es !
January 21st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
698.00raiders00 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Again and as usual, we will end up being the last org. to hire our new coach.
Not a departure from Mr. Davis.
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Traditionally we wait till last so the bargainning chips are in our favor. That’s why they come so cheap.
And Chucky, bet we got hime for a steal. Probably keep him as he makes good financial sense.
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That’s not seriously what you want is it? For Raiders to get the best deal for a HC and DC?
I thought we were leaving those days behind and we were gonna get “good” coaches ? Not who we can get the cheapest.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
chris in ny: mike silver has always been a raider-hater. he would love nothing more than to see us fail ,then write some mickey mouse column. he’s a punk. that’s the bottom line.
al davis punked him back in the day, and he ain’t over it. f–k mike silver. now i’m gone …..peace out
b–ches !
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