NFL Network: Waufle to Rams as DL coach
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, January 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive line coach Mike Waulfe will be the second Raiders assistant coach to leave for another job while the club awaits the hire of a new head coach, according to the NFL Network.
Waufle, who coached the last two seasons with the Raiders after an earlier stint from 1998-2003, was added to the staff of the St. Louis Rams Friday, according to Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network.
Wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal accepted a job with the New York Jets earlier this week.
Waufle was in attendance at the press conference of new general manager Reggie McKenzie, who said he will leave it to the new Raiders head coach to make all hires on his staff. McKenzie is still in the process of interviewing prospective candidates.
As of Friday, Waufle was still included on the Raiders’ roster of assistant coaches.
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January 21st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
1st…
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hwnrdr Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
GG Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
We’re definitely going to a 3-4 now with Wauffle leaving.
I can see that…
Funny is, where did Spags go again?
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Exactly, I thought we had a strong chance of getting Spagnuolo as DC because we had Wauffle. But McKenzie obviously wants to focus on a 3-4 defense. Which I don’t have a problem with. But yeah, the re-uniting of Spags/Wauffle was writing on the wall.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
January 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Any other news, like where’s Reggie?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
That increases our odds of Dom Capers or Todd Bowles being DC.
I don’t buy the reason McCoy wasn’t hired by the Dolphins — that he didn’t want Bowles as DC, but more like Philbin could attract Flynn to Miami.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
00raiders00 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Our defense sucked major ass and we go and single out Hue for it.
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When Al was around, we didnt dare play anything that Al didnt approve. After Oct 8, we started blitzing more and played more cover 2. Hue was the HC in charge of the ENTIRE GAME PLAN without Al around. So who is ultimately responsible for allowing the cover 2 against Megatron twice? Huebris.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Damnit C’Mon Reggie make some Moves!!!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
I see Fischer is hard at work. Good to see Wauffle iron out his new job.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
WHERE IS REGGIE JACKSON THESE DAY’S ?
January 21st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Or when we pin the other team at the .5 yard line not to let them just march down the field 99.5 yards to beat us.
I mean the defense was soooo bad it was the WORST in MANY categories in HISTORY for the Raiders.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Seriously who’s even out ther to pic up maybe we can kidnap a harbaugh
January 21st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Ouch.. Waffle loss hurts. McKenzie needs to make up his mind this week. Part of the game is making the right choice but also doing it before the best assistant coaches are taken. Reggie is looking a little green right now.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Reggie is scratching his head going who the he’ll can I get
January 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Patience!
January 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Waufle’s a good coach, but the Raiders need to try something new.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
675.Chris in NY Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Twocents #655
For godsakes man, why would you want Tolbert as a replacement for Bush? Bush gained 1000 yds mostly against top tier teams.
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Yeah. Tolbert is kinda garbage. I don’t think we should franchise Bush or pay him top dollar. Wouldn’t mind something in the $3-4 mil per year range for three years but that’s about how high I’d go.
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Tolbert looked pretty good when he made that 42 yard run against us when we had em pinned down. How many tackles did he break? A ton. If he is “garbage” than what the heck does that say about our POS defense? With everything on the line and down only five we let that “garbage” seal our season?
That is so pathetic it still makes me irate thinking about it.
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Says alot about our defense. Some very, very weak tackling on that play.
Don’t forget too it was Tolbert who helped us break the streak against SD last season when he fumbled on our goalline. Without that play we lose that game.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Rome was being built then they blew it up and started over
January 21st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
“@ScottPaterno: CBS report is wrong – Dad is alive but in serious condition. We continue to ask for your prayers and privacy during this time.”
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Found this tweet
January 21st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Now we def need a NT a new DL coach along with a DC. I hope rod gets another chance and our first FA signing should be finnegan
January 21st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I see panic in the Nation and it makes me sick to think that I am associated with such cowards.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Herrera just announced the new HC of the Raiders will be Pat Summitt. She will leave the Lady Vols and head to Oakland. She was hired to instill discipline and fundamentals. “I will cut down on the penalties or I’ll cut off some big ass, over bloated balls.”
January 21st, 2012 at 7:54 pm
If in the end Winston Moss is the choice, someone at the presser needs to question him on his past transgressions. Makes McClain look like a choir boy.
January 21st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Btw, just on the Rams situation posted in PFT…
It’s starting to take shape…
St Louis Jaguars (still afc south)
LA Rams (still nfc west)
Either LA Chargers or Raiders (still afc west)
January 21st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
All the doubters will change their names and claim they were all aboard from the beginning. Such wimps.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Also, Joe Paterno is still alive, according to his family, but “fighing for his life.”
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Great news because he’s the next guy Reggie was hoping to interview for the Raiders’ head coaching position.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Com’on Reggie. You got to do something, like throw us a bone. Give a dog a bone man!
January 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Atleast McClain can do better if we run a 3-4 because he is a 3-4 ILB
January 21st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Chris in NY, what are you going to change your name to after you realize that you have been wrong about everything?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Maybe all of this covert silence at HQ means something big is in the works. I doubt it though. Been a fan too long.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
If Reggie wanted to fire hue and bring in his own guy, who is that guy and where is he? I wonder if Moss ain’t the guy because if he was he’d be working on his staff. Chuck still here?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Morilla, what it means is that things have changed. There is a new boss. Get on board or find another team.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Reggie is probably still trying to convince Hue to unbind himself from his desk and vacate the premises.
But seriously, as soon as Reggie announces some coaching hires, we’ll get a good grasp what’s going on. Whether it’s Reggie there to keep the Raider status quo going, or whether he’s burning to rebuild.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Reggie stated in the presser that we have some pieces, which players are the pieces is what has me on the edge of my seat.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Chris,Usually you are pretty level-headed when discussing the team,but you are letting the HJ dismissal get in the way of far minded thinking.Think about it.How often do you see a new GM take over a team and keep the staff that was there before he was hired?It just doesn’t happen.It doesn’t make any difference whether Jackson deserved to be back or not.With a new GM he wasn’t coming back.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:20 pm
pat summit would be hard on these fools ,, im bout to empty my bank account to put up a HIRE BRIAN BILLICK billboard .
January 21st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
will there be any excitement in the fanbase when reggie mc annoumces marty f`in morninweg as the new head coach ?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Chris,Usually you are pretty level-headed when discussing the team,but you are letting the HJ dismissal get in the way of far minded thinking.Think about it.How often do you see a new GM take over a team and keep the staff that was there before he was hired?It just doesn’t happen.It doesn’t make any difference whether Jackson deserved to be back or not.With a new GM he wasn’t coming back.
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I’m just afraid that we may be going back to rebuilding for an indefinite amount of time just so some unproven GM can put his stamp on things.
I think this is a team that was finally headed in the right direction. Has a lot of young, talented players. Has the first bigtime QB it’s had in a decade. And we had a coach who I believe is not only a great playcaller and offensive mind, but someone who embodied what the Raiders are all about and was carrying on in the tradition of Al Davis and the Raiders.
Now, who knows? Firing Hue was Reggie’s first move and I believe it was a huge, huge mistake. Now he’s taking his sweet time bringing in guys like Mike Tice to interview for the position. And who knows what he has in mind for the roster.
Maybe it works out. I guess we’ll see. But I had big expectations for this team with DMac back, Palmer in for a full off-season, and Hue calling the plays. With a legit DC, I was expecting a 12-4 season. But if Reggie fails or decides he wants to rebuild who knows where that goes. It could easily set the franchise back another 10 years.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
And, yes, new GMs typically bring in their guys. But this was anything but the typical GM hire. The only reason Reggie McKenzie is here because the previous GM passed away. So you can’t really compare it to what happens in other situations where the team blows and gets progressively worse and a new GM comes in and cleans house.
This is a very unique situation.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Twocents Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Chris in NY, what are you going to change your name to after you realize that you have been wrong about everything?
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How about “Chubby Checker’s Manservant”?
January 21st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
I suggest you give it time and wait to see what happens before predicting doomsday and throwing yourself off the Brooklyn Bridge.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Who do you guys like tomorrow? Any given Sunday, but I’m betting on a Giants-Pats rematch.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Meanwhile, it gets even better for Numbnuts McCoy:
Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy reportedly believes he wasn’t hired to coach the Dolphins because he wasn’t willing to keep interim head coach Todd Bowles as the team’s defensive coordinator, replacing Mike Nolan. As it turns out, new coach Joe Philbin may not be keeping Bowles, either.
According to Jason La Canfora of NFL Network, Bengals defensive backs coach Kevin Coyle (pictured) is under consideration for the position.
Coyle, 56, has spent a decade in Cincinnati, his only NFL job. He reportedly was on Philly’s radar last year, but owner Mike Brown wouldn’t grant the Eagles permission to interview him for the job that went to Juan Castillo.
So if Bowles goes and Coyle or someone else gets the job, McCoy’s future candidacy for other head-coaching jobs could be affected adversely.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/bowles-may-not-be-staying-in-miami-after-all
Once again: HAHAHAHAHAHA
January 21st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
If McKenzie hires anyone other than Pete Carmichael.I’m not going to be too excited because honestly he’s the best option left.right now. Hurry up and fetter done fat boy.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
The team has blown for the last 10 years.The new guy in charge hasn’t been here for any of that time.I think we should wait and see what he does before condemning the guy.We don’t know if he plans on tearing the roster apart or just continue to built what was started 3-4 years ago.He’s only been on the job for 3 or so weeks.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
But yeah, the re-uniting of Spags/Wauffle was writing on the wall.
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Spags went to New Orleans… I said weeks ago the rumor of a Spags Wauffle reunion was way overblown. Spags could have hired Wauffle in STL if he wanted him, or convinced New Orleans to bring him too.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Damn,Bcz,cluttering this place with facts again.
January 21st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
i know i know….
January 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Meanwhile, it gets even better for Numbnuts McCoy:
Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy reportedly believes he wasn’t hired to coach the Dolphins because he wasn’t willing to keep interim head coach Todd Bowles as the team’s defensive coordinator, replacing Mike Nolan. As it turns out, new coach Joe Philbin may not be keeping Bowles, either.
According to Jason La Canfora of NFL Network, Bengals defensive backs coach Kevin Coyle (pictured) is under consideration for the position.
Coyle, 56, has spent a decade in Cincinnati, his only NFL job. He reportedly was on Philly’s radar last year, but owner Mike Brown wouldn’t grant the Eagles permission to interview him for the job that went to Juan Castillo.
So if Bowles goes and Coyle or someone else gets the job, McCoy’s future candidacy for other head-coaching jobs could be affected adversely.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/bowles-may-not-be-staying-in-miami-after-all
Once again: HAHAHAHAHAHA
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As i tried several times to post there on PFT but they keep deleting it…
lol @ McCoy, turning down an interview with the Raiders, and ending up shooting himself in the foot. Hurt his profile now as a young HC candidate by rejecting the Raiders, and then running to the media about the Dolphins
January 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
But yeah, the re-uniting of Spags/Wauffle was writing on the wall.
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Spags went to New Orleans… I said weeks ago the rumor of a Spags Wauffle reunion was way overblown. Spags could have hired Wauffle in STL if he wanted him, or convinced New Orleans to bring him too.
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Sorry, it came out bad, was trying to say here in oakland the re-uniting. I had tipped Spags being DC in Oakland due to Wauffle. But i guess this means for sure we’re moving to a 3-4. Which i am happier to see anyway.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Yeah he killed himself. He went to the media and said he was the front runner in Miami, then he says that stuff about Bowles. Stupid Donkey trash. Denver isn’t going to want him back now either.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Eventually it will left that there are no coaches and nor players in Oaktown. Just one Reggie McKenzie. This is fine, what with the approach of 12-21-12. Reggie is simply aligning things for the possibilities that exist on this side of the time line as well as the other side of the come what may.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Bowles coming to oakland then
January 21st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I’ll reserve judgment about moving to a 3-4 when I know who our coaches are. Don’t care either way, I don’t believe a 3-4 or a 4-3 is a better scheme, its about execution. Our 4-3 would be fine if it was executed better, and I don’t believe we conclusively have the pieces one way or the other. I guess we will see when we have a staff how it goes.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
GG-actually,it doesn’t mean anything for sure.not saying it won’t happen,but you can’t say that for sure.Just like you can’t for sure the team is planning to go to Pryor because of the people we’ve interviewed.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Lefty….yeah, agree can’t say anything for sure. Just playing sleuth and speculator as updates/info occur around the league.
But i think that strengthens the odds of moving to a 3-4 tho. I also think the odds of Bowles coming to Oakland increased too. Whether that’s DC or HC dunno.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:27 pm
The team will remain in tact for the most part and the coaching staff will all be in sync with the same philosophy dor the first time in forever. al used to hire coordinators first. Coaching will be improved and the team will follow suit….relax raider nation
January 21st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Marty morningweg or whatever may be our new coach. I like it. Name a better offense over the last 10 years
January 21st, 2012 at 9:37 pm
If Mornihweg gets the job, I hope Chewbaka mandates that he leaves the field at the end of regulation especially if the game is tied. The assistants and players can handle the extra period.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Waufle ia a good coach the Rams are lucky. As for the Raiders? So far not so much…
January 21st, 2012 at 10:01 pm
48.GG Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
But yeah, the re-uniting of Spags/Wauffle was writing on the wall.
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Spags went to New Orleans… I said weeks ago the rumor of a Spags Wauffle reunion was way overblown. Spags could have hired Wauffle in STL if he wanted him, or convinced New Orleans to bring him too.
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Sorry, it came out bad, was trying to say here in oakland the re-uniting. I had tipped Spags being DC in Oakland due to Wauffle. But i guess this means for sure we’re moving to a 3-4. Which i am happier to see anyway.
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ANYTHING different (3-4) is ok with me.
There is NOTHING about our defense I would wish to save.
It can’t get any worse than what we saw.
Now teams will take 1:20 instead of 1:30 to go 99 yds. for a TD with the game on the line?
I would hope not.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
What would worry me with Marty is not so much that he wouldn’t have learned from his mistake of the coin flip, it’s just that somewhere in his mind he at one time thought it was a good idea in the first place.
What other ridiculous ideas might lurk in that mind of his?
January 21st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
http://twitter.com/WhatSheOrderO_o/status/153944330879504384/photo/1
Here’s what happened to Sterling Moore after we didn’t keep him this preseason…I’m sure we could’ve used the help in our secondary…
January 21st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
ANYTHING different (3-4) is ok with me.
There is NOTHING about our defense I would wish to save.
It can’t get any worse than what we saw.
Now teams will take 1:20 instead of 1:30 to go 99 yds. for a TD with the game on the line?
I would hope not.
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I would’ve said the same thing about our offense 2 years ago. Nothing worth keeping. It was one of the worst in the league. Looks like with good coaching suddenly the players look good. I don’t think our whole defense has crap players. Think a good coach and scheme would suddenly “magically” have the players playing better.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Going to Pryor right now and waiving the white flag on a 32 yr. old potential top 10 QB who has tons of NFL experience and has shown DEFINTIVELY he can play at high level in this league would be the most foolish thing I have ever seen the Raiders do, and I have seen alot of foolishness over the yrs.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Waufle is a good coach? Maybe but the defense blew and the def line never helped stop the run, too concerned with getting sacks
January 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Did Palmers 417 yds. his last game prove he doesn’t have it anymore?
If this is gonna turn into a circus we may as well bring back Jamarcus and Cable.
Why not. What the heck.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
That was a blunder we all saw coming. S.Moore. Saw it in pre-season, he was making plays, getting to the ball, breaking up some passes. But Al and then Hue messed up. Mind you, I think Belichick knows how to utilize Moore better. Moore did get signed then released from the Colts, and from the Patriots, before re-signing with the Patriots.
Also, Walter McFadden was signed to a future’s contract with the Steelers.
For the most part we haven’t been burned by the players we released last few years. If one should emerge that we erred on, we’d have a pretty good percentage of not getting burned.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
A good coaching staff with ONE vision will be in and the team will take off with the talent we have now. Very soon raider nation. Very soon
January 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
#62,
I think our defense may be alot worse talent wise than that offense that revived.
McClain does not impress me one bit.
I think it starts from the top down. Who is our “leader” on D? Seymour?
The D seriously lacks someone who will stand up and say “No! You are NOT going to just drive down the field on us like this. We are going to stop you and walk away with the AFC West, in front of 65,000 of our closest friends and supporters. No way is that happening. Not today b****es!”
Instead, they just fold up and roll over like they can’t wait for the season to end so they can get on with more important things.
BS.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Waufle coaching the D-line for Gregg Williams’ defense. I like the fit, and I wish him well. Hate to lose him.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
If we can get some picks…
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The big mover during the week’s practice for the East West Shrine Game was CB Josh Norman (Coastal Carolina).
Norman has good size 6′ 203lbs and 4.40 40 yard speed. I’ll be keeping an eye on him when he gets to the combine.
This is from Bucky Brooks @ nfl.com…
Coastal Carolina CB Josh Norman has been the star of the week with his extraordinary display of ball skills. He has picked off at least six passes over the past three days, and gotten his hands on several others. What has been most impressive about watching him work has been his ability to thrive in off coverage. Most big corners want to jam at the line of scrimmage to use their superior size to disrupt the release of the receiver, but Norman has shown the footwork and quickness to blanket receivers from distance. He takes excellent cutoff angles and is rarely out of position on double moves. In speaking with him after practice, he talked about learning how to read the three-step drop (corners will align at eight yards, key the quarterback’s drop before taking their eyes back to the receiver and jumping the route). This week has taken his game to another level. If he can continue to build on the momentum created by his strong performance here, Norman might make a strong push into consideration for the draft’s second day.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Crow Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Waufle coaching the D-line for Gregg Williams’ defense. I like the fit, and I wish him well. Hate to lose him.
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Similar situation to Lal: Waufle had no idea who the new head guy would be or whether the incoming regime would want him or not, and he was offered a sure thing with the St. Louis/London Rams. Good luck to him and his multiple time zones.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:33 pm
One thing about Fischer is he’s probably refreshed after some time off and ready to dive right in. What’s Reggie doing and do we have a DC yet?
January 21st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
28.morilla Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Maybe all of this covert silence at HQ means something big is in the works. I doubt it though. Been a fan too long.
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Big? As in Jon Gruden big? Something similar?
Just curious.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Not saying it’s good or bad, but SO FAR it’s business as usual from Mr. Davis yrs. with us being the last team to bring in our new HC.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Alex Smith will return to his usual form tomorrow. I anticipate the Giants D to treat him like the Ravens D did back in November!
January 21st, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Consider the current “D” completely blown up.
DL coach Wauffle was the best part of the Raiders’ defense.
Every player on defense is now aware he may not be back in the Silver & Black.
Some are more than good enough to start or at least play on other teams; I expect at least seven new starters on defense now.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
#76,
Good!
Or better said “Good Riddance” to them.
I’ve never been so let down by an athletic unit than the one you reference.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Guys on D i’m ok with staying are:
-Schaughnessy
-Branch
…sorry, can’t think of anyone else right now.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:48 pm
djohnnyg #78:
What about Boyd, we should keep him….
January 21st, 2012 at 11:50 pm
And Waufle….hmmmmm……well good riddance to anyone associated with what was alleged to be the “D”: except Schaughnessy, Branch…..and Boyd.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:53 pm
and Boyd, don’t forget Boyd, we really, really need him……
January 21st, 2012 at 11:54 pm
I admit a part of me felt sorry for Hue getting canned like that. Impossible for me to hate on a guy who was so passionate about the Raider org. Some say it was all bs but I don’t believe that.
Whether it was becuz (as some have suggested)that he was just so appreciative that Al gave a gimp like him a chance to be a HC in the NFL or not, the guy was authentic in his wanting to win and validate the faith in him.
Did he fail on alot of levels? Yes. This league is unforgiving. You don’t get the job done you’re out, but the guy bled silver and black.
I think his grab for power was less sinister than what others say, but rather him believing he did know best what the org. needed to get better.
I think that’s what scared Fisher off; being concerned Hue would think he knew better than Fisher. That’s gonna be a problem for Hue going forward; that perception which is based on reality- Hue really does think he knows what’s best.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:59 pm
81.al d. davis Says:
January 21st, 2012 at 11:53 pm
and Boyd, don’t forget Boyd, we really, really need him……
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Yes, Yes, Yes!!!
Boyd is the man.
My apologies for leaving him out.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 am
Guys here down on Reggie already and his foot just got in the door ?
i think im with Madden and Wolf on this one
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 am
djohnnyg #83,
shame on you for leaving out Boyd.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 am
I for one support Terrelle Pryor and hope he does well as our future QB. However, he is too raw and needs to working on his passing ability. I just hope he is working hard on improving his passing mechanics this off-season.
I like to watch college football early in the season when a top team is faced against a scrub team to see how the less talented team schemes to overcome their talent defeatist. Also, how a team with a Heisman candidate plays to display their superior player.
I know that in the NFL every offense and defensive scheme gets put to the ultimate test but I’m just saying…
I really believe that you have to been able to pass to score points, and run the ball in the Redzone for field-goals instead of turnovers. Being a run first team you can easily find yourself in second and long and third and long situations because defenses stack the box against you.
If your defense sucks, blitz as much as possible because you’re going to give up points anyways, might as well try to get a turnover.
The Raiders habit of trading away draft picks for veteran players is great in the short term but it really takes a long time to rebuild afterwards.
I just hope that Reggie McK has a long-term solution to improve the Raiders. But as a fan we have no input on the outcome of our team. We can only watch and hope.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 am
I know Al. I am ridden with guilt for ignoring such a fine talent such as Boyd.
He is the cornerstone of everything.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 am
lol
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 am
Angry Villager with Pitchfork # 86,
Hey Pitchfork, say what ????
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 am
If your defense sucks, blitz as much as possible because you’re going to give up points anyways, might as well try to get a turnover.
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Villager, that statement right there is exactly what I thought we should have tried doing.
As if we were really gonna stop Det. or SD when we had em pinned down by rushing 3 or 4 of our lamers.
I would’ve held up my hands and said ‘Aww hell. Send everybody. It’s our only chance anyway’.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 am
The thing that Wolf and Madden both say is Reggie knows who can play and who cant ,it will be exciting off season
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 am
Angry Villager with Pitchfork # 86,
Pitchfork, I got you now. Thank djohnnyg for the clarification.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 am
Violent Hands #91:
Violent, Wolf and Madden be incorrect. Anything can happen. Check out this newflash:
10-Year-Old Girl Swallowed By Giant Crocodile
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 am
Wolf and Madden may **** be incorrect.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:24 am
No way can they both be wrong i trust they know how the Raiders need to be run
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:30 am
93.al d. davis Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 am
Violent Hands #91:
Violent, Wolf and Madden be incorrect. Anything can happen. Check out this newflash:
10-Year-Old Girl Swallowed By Giant Crocodile
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Al,
If Jerome Boyd were there that tragedy would never have happened.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 am
Three players Mr. Mckenzie must keep in the Silver & Black [it goes without saying all are on offense] also I’m keeping it to players under the Raider’s control- therefore Reece & Branch are not included as they have as much to say about where they are playing as do the Raiders:
Vehldeer, Wisniewski, & Moore are the three the Raiders must not trade.
All others trade at will, for other players, or more importantly draft picks.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 am
Can see it now.
A press conference in July.Reggie asking Art to come back for the third time.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 am
If Reggie waits any longer all that’ll be left will be chaff.Maybe that’s what Mark Davis wants – a coaching staff on the cheap.
Hardly a new era.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 am
MAYBE MCKENZIE WILL NAME HIMSELF HEADCOACH…
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:22 am
Can’t do everything in one year. Our O is actually pretty good. Can just tweek it and concentrate on revamping D. We had an identity at season’s start for the first time in 10 yrs.- best running game in league. Can’t trade DMAC. Will have to do w/o Bush – not worth $ as he’ll find out. Hope Taiwan is a player. By the way , biggest waste of a draft pick wasn’t CP it was Pryor. Would love to see Reece step up as second back.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:23 am
who have we really lost out on in terms of head coaches, zero in my book.
No head coach hiring this off season has made me go, “gosh darn golly gee whiskers, why couldn’t we have signed him as our head coach.”
There have been a few top defensive coordinators we’ve lost out (Nolon, Spagnola) & lost Waufle; I think that has us more bummed out.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:24 am
I do think Kurt Russell’s wife is still available as head coach.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:26 am
We don’t really know yet on Pryor.
He was a winner in college; he was the top recruit when he graduated.
He could be another Tui or he could be another Snake.
January 22nd, 2012 at 3:38 am
I think Reggie is waiting until the games are over today. Just think , out of 4 teams playing 3 have good D’s. GB’s D was awful. Look at the Bradshaw run before the end of the first half. How could you let that happen??? Keep Moss , Capers! Watch what Romeo does with KC this year. I think you’re allowed to talk to teams during the SB bye . Does anyone know if this is true?
January 22nd, 2012 at 4:31 am
I heard McKenzie will interview Will Ferrell Tuesday….
January 22nd, 2012 at 4:32 am
Good morning Raider fans,..getting the truck geared up…enjoy the game today…sold those tix,..550 per. Paid 112.
January 22nd, 2012 at 4:48 am
Get rid of Herrera! He’s a cancer. Org. needs to be more fan-friendly. Give fans some info to pique their interest = ticket sales. George did that for years with the Yankees. Kept them on the back pages. This cloak of secrecy only shows contempt for media and therefore the fan base. There’s more info on this blog than anything coming out of HQ. If the Jets or Giants were looking for a HC. there’d be 5 columns a day in the papers. NY writers would be using all their sources. The writers we have find out from ESPN or NFL network. Awful coverage!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:04 am
Fisher wasting no time getting his staff together
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:29 am
Hi Raider Nation!…you guys ready for the new era? Exciting times!
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 am
LOL at people who though Waufle might stay.
Same with Al Saunders. He is gone as well.
The only guys who ever stick with a new coaching staff, is the ST coach, because that isn’t a “system” thing.
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 am
This GM needs to get his stuff togather. He should have had a game plan put togather instead of just jumping at the chance to be a GM. From what I see he is just flying from the seat of his pants. We are loosing coaches, and he does not seam to care!!!!! What makes him think that he is the know it all of a good team. Green Bay was a one and done!!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 am
I think Reggie is waiting until the games are over today. Just think , out of 4 teams playing 3 have good D’s. GB’s D was awful.
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New York Giants were 27th in total defense, and gave up more points than Green Bay’s defenses, and generated barely half as many turnovers.
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 am
He had better get going, I hope that it is a waiting game and not one that no one would want to play for him the way he let Hue go, that did not say anything good about him.
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 am
DIRT-LOT….
A cold chill went down my spine when I read that.
January 22nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
Billy Bob Thornton interviewing on Wednesday,then Steve Bruce on Thursday.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:07 am
Dont forget Jim Carrey Interview friday
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:11 am
We all would love to Have Gruden back but we have a lot of people in the office right now hungry for power and I do not see the GM giving any of it up to get a top coach.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:17 am
Following Reggie McKenzie’s hire as the new general manager of the Oakland Raiders — and McKenzie’s firing of Hue Jackson — many assumed that the former Green Bay Packers personnel man would hire a head coach off of Mike McCarthy’s staff. Perhaps those assumers didn’t give the process enough credit.
According to Dan Pompei of National Football Post, Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has emerged as a “strong candidate.”
Mornhinweg “has Bay area roots, was a success with the 49ers and has ties to new general manager Reggie McKenzie from their days together in Green Bay,” Pompei writes.
Another assumption being made in recent days regarding the Raiders’ opening was that a defensive coach would be the one tapped for the post, however the Mornhinweg candidacy would refute that idea as well.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Games over .500: -22
Super Bowl Wins: 0
Overall Championships: 0
Conference Championships: 0
Division Championships: 0
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 am
Our next head coach just watch and see
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:40 am
Giants D had alot of injuries. Once those guys came back it was huge difference. I just didn’t like what I saw of GB’s D against the Giants , Lions and the Giants again. But then again the Steelers’ D wasn’t exactly the STEEL CURTAIN either.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:42 am
—”According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, there have been “whispers” amongst Packers ILB AJ Hawk’s teammates about “how little his game has to offer.”Signed to a new five-year, $33.8 million deal last March as Nick Barnett was allowed to walk, Hawk tallied just 84 tackles and 1.5 sacks while failing to force a turnover in 14 games this season. He graded out as Pro Football Focus’ 35th best 3-4 inside linebacker. A favorite of GM Ted Thompson, Hawk is unlikely to be released despite his 2012 base salary of $4.4 million”—
Not the greatest endorsement for Winston Moss!
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 am
A.J. Hawk will be a Raider next season.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:49 am
Why do I have such a bad feeling about this season? I just have this vision of Mongo trying to explain why things have not worked out over his first 3 years.
Worse part is I have to hire a southern derelict translator so I can understand what his is tried to say.
You know how hard a translator like that is to find?
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
Here’s hoping for a HC announcement by early in the week. If Reggie waits too long all of the best assistants will be off the market. Don’t want to lose Wylie or Saunders. I’m not too concerned about the rest, especially if we’re going to more 3-4 and hybrid defense.
C’mon Reggie…No waffling…Pun intended.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
We will be fine next season.
Hue Jackson = addition by subtraction
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:52 am
Don’t want to lose Wylie or Saunders.
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Dude, there gone.
Our future HC will bring in an entire new staff.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 am
I dont know JFB. The light of a bright future went out for me the moment he started talking in that presser. Between him and Mark I will have to see it to believe it.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 am
Don,
Trust me, we need more steak and less sizzle.
Hue Jackson was all hat and no cattle.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 am
Im not just concerned about losing Hue. I just have to see if these two can run a team.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 am
I like how you put that though.
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:58 am
Are you sure he wasn’t all hat and no sizzle?
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
#128: That would be a shame. I said before the season that Wylie is one of the best o-line coaches around and he proved it with the work he did with a weak bunch (center to RT). Saunders’ system would be a perfect fit with our skill set at QB, RB and WR if actually allowed to call plays.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
Hey Mike, Don’t dip in the mustard if you can’t ketchup.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
#135: Stop it…You’re bringing back memories of my first move away from home…Ketchup sandwiches and soup…Mustard was a luxury.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:05 am
No PCs back then…You had to steal the squirt bottle of ketchup or mustard from the restaurant.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 am
I have been coming to this blog for 4 or 5 years. This is the worst it has ever been. How do we get Jerry back?
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 am
Time to go now. Have to check out the attic…Been hearing scrabbling noises up there for a while now…Raccoon?…If I don’t post next week call Homeland Security.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
Good luck!
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 am
Everyone is so negative, wow.
RMac is taking it low and slow. He’s smart, he’s waiting until after the SB to make his decision. I mean the teams left playing have good coordinators?
Again, he is copying the GB org. They have won 2 SB since h was there, numerous playoff appearances.
Dude inherited an organization that was ran like Cuba. Guy needs a lot of air refreshener and Clorox. Gonna take a minute to find the right guy.
Like he said: “I’m an Aim,Shoot, Fire, type of Guy”.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 am
So out of the 4 remaining teams, who could possibly be on Reggies list?
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
124.Albert Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 am
A.J. Hawk will be a Raider next season.
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Why? Because he’s bad?
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:19 am
Cowboys news
he said Thursday at Valley Ranch in a press conference to introduce offensive coordinator/offensive line coach Bill Callahan.
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LOL! First Ryan noe Callahan. Ok I dont feel so bad about our team now. Thank you Mr. Jones or should I say “Coach”
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 am
we he has his chance to show his talent, just hope its not just arrogance because he is the GM
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 am
Some are saying that Hue was such a POS HC, but then will ALSO say how little talent we have.
It can’t be both.
If Raiders had/have very little talent then Hue’s 8-8 is actually pretty good.
Which is it?
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:24 am
pretty good, look at what happen to our team and injurie. Injuries – 8-8 with Hue, No injuries = 12-4 with Hue
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
Saw Woodson on NFLN this morning.
We can look forward to him joining the ex-Raider critic panel next season I guess.
It’s just human nature to be mad at the employer who fired you.
I’m sorry. Raiders let his “contract expire”.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 am
You would not be impressed with Mclain either, if you were LB having to cover WR’s, Please come on!
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
Hue was so great that the Rams passed him over to be OC.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Djohnnyg Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
124.Albert Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 am
A.J. Hawk will be a Raider next season.
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Why? Because he’s bad?
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Because he is a Packer and the Raiders need linebackers. He is probably an upgrade to what we have now.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
Maybe Niners, Ravens, or NY DC’s.
We need a DEfensive HC. Time to fix that side of the ball that has sucked the last 11 years.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 am
Last 9 years, I meant, sorry.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:36 am
#151,
I cannot argue that Hawk would be an upgrade to what we have.
Someone posted they think we will have as many as 7 new starters on D.
I’m fine with that.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 am
As long as Dom Capers is coming over, as either the DC or HC, I will be beyond happy.
No better person to install a new defensive scheme from scratch.
He has done it multiple times in his career, and they D usually dominates for a few years before it becomes a little stale.
Look at the Packers. Top 5 D for a few years, #1 rushing defense one year, Super Bowl run, than this year the wheels came off a little.
I will gladly sacrifice 2015, for some dominating D for 3 years.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 am
Here we go Ravens and Giants!
Rematch baby!
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:46 am
Interesting stat revealed on NFLN this morning.
The Patriots have not beaten ANY teams this yr. that ended up with a winning record and are 0-2 against teams that did.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:47 am
I know it’s been ten years, but I sure hope the Ravens kick the crap out of the Cheatriots today!
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 am
Chris In NY Says: January 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Who do you guys like tomorrow? Any given Sunday, but I’m betting on a Giants-Pats rematch. Chris In NY Says: January 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Who do you guys like tomorrow? Any given Sunday, but I’m betting on a Giants-Pats rematch.
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God i hope so. All these retarded bandwagon Niners fans need to be knocked down a few pegs.
January 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 am
Of the teams that are left which one has someone left on their staff that is HC material?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
There is NO PLAYER, COACH OR ASSSISTANT from the 2011 Raiders that must be kept. Not one!
You all worry about losing Wauffle? What did he do for that raggedy bunch up front?
And the players….you can blame Breshnahan, and he deserves it, but damn….its not like the Raiders were running some complex zone blitz system. It was mostly a man up defense.
Did the scheme change that much? And on those multiple 99 yard drives…that wasn’t about scheme…nope..that was about 11 guys just making a play…which they didn’t…because they are terrible football players.
Clean the whole damn house Reggie! And take your time and get it right
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:01 am
Anyone have ESPN Insider? They have an article on Raiders coaching search but I can’t see it.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:09 am
People have talked about how this team was just a good DC away from being a playoff team, and that may or may not be true (no way to find out).
The common example given is Wade Phillips and what happened in Houston. PHillips does deserve a lot of credit for that turnaround, but it’s not like he took over the same personnel.
They added Jonathan Joseph, a top 3 cover man, and arguably the best coverman in the NFL.
Added JJ Watt, a beast of a DE with a non-stop motor. Also drafted Brooks Reed, an elite edge pass-rusher.
We aren’t adding anyone like this to our defense this year, and really we have to hope that McClain, Houston and Shonasty develop, to offset the extra year/miles on TK, Huff and Seymour.
We can bring in Dick Lebeau, and he will have his hands full making this unit above-average in one offseason.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:10 am
DJonn
You working today?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:13 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote No in LA Times poll of who wants the Raiders to move to LA. Vote No!
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:13 am
R.I.P. Joe Paterno
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:15 am
Will be McClain’s third DC in 3 years in the NFL, after coming from a completely different system in college.
Not making excuses for the guy, but we make excuses for QB’s that go through this type of turnover, shouldn’t it factor into the defensive “QB” as well?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Reggie is waiting to hire a coach that is still coaching in one of today’s games.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Buzz on Raiders’ job
7:51AM ET
Oakland Raiders
A front-runner appears to have emerged, and it’s a bit of a surprise.
Subscribe to Insider for as low as $2.50/month to access the complete rumor insider
……
Anyone have ESPN Insider?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 am
Reggie is waiting to hire a coach that is still coaching in one of today’s games
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I disagree.
I think he is bringing in all these offensive guys, to see if he would rather go that direction than his defensive guys he knows (Capers/Moss).
I believe a decision will be made the middle of next week.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:26 am
Although, waiting it out to be the last HC position available, isn’t the worst strategy to maybe bring in some quality co-ordinators.
It does, however, put said new HC behind the 8-ball a little when it comes to assembling his staff.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
No mas…I mean Moss!
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Reggie is looking for a head coach….a person that leads the entire team. I hope he interviews some Special Teams guys.
With no draft picks, it will be hard to add a “JJ Watt” or that pass rusher from San Fran this year.
With the team having little cap room, it may be good just to take the cap hit this year and get rid of the highly paid, no production types that LITTER this roster.
In my opinion, the ceiling for the Raiders up to now was 8-8….to breakthrough, Reggie has to clean house and he started with the head coach.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Last year was just a bizarre year, with a ton of distractions. From Al (RIP), to Hue going power-crazy, to McClain, to CP getting thrown in the middle of the year, and so on.
Next year, will be a breath of fresh air for these guys, with a new OBVIOUS person in charge at GM, and some quality minds across the sidelines.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Sure, or he has no clue who or what. Based on the press conf he looks completely clueless and over his head. Kinda like pres purp lips.
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KingDan Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Reggie is waiting to hire a coach that is still coaching in one of today’s games.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Right on!
Special teams guys always turn into HOF head coach’s.
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SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Reggie is looking for a head coach….a person that leads the entire team. I hope he interviews some Special Teams guys.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
What if he already gave it to Breshnahan?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
What if he already gave it to Breshnahan?
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BITE YOUR TONGUE!
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
What if Reggie is waiting on Vic Fangio from the Niners?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
178.
LOL! Bowl cuts of everyone!
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Albert Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 am
A.J. Hawk will be a Raider next season.
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Can’t be any worse than what we have now.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:54 am
“Right on!
Special teams guys always turn into HOF head coach’s.”
John Harbuagh was The Eagles special teams coach for nine years, he is playing in a championship game today….how are you so damn stupid didn’t you think to do any research first before opening your uneducated babbling mouth?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 am
I think Reggie is wanting to interview Perry Fewell.
Giants defensive coordinator.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Ditka was the Cowboys Special Teams coach before he went to Chicago to become their HC.
Again how stupid are you Brownstains?
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Peymour OakGlenn 666,
Harbough was the HC at Stanford you moron not a ST coach. ST coaches dont get elevated to HC.
How stupid do I feel? Not at all sh!t for brains!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:54 am
John Harbuagh was The Eagles special teams coach for nine years, he is playing in a championship game today….how are you so damn stupid didn’t you think to do any research first before opening your uneducated babbling mouth?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 am
Your mom was probably a special teams coach too, so what?
Dumb as Fk wanting a ST coach to be our HC!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Ditka was the Cowboys Special Teams coach before he went to Chicago to become their HC.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
I think you got Jim and John confused.
John, Ravens coach, was a ST coach.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 am
@AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Raiders interviewed Winston Moss for 4 hours last Saturday. Mike Tice interviews Tues. Coach to watch for job is Eagles OC Marty Mornhinweg.
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Worries me, considering how often Schefter is right about the Raiders.
But maybe Mornhinweg’s game management skills have improved since his last shot at being a head coach?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
Paterno should have died 6 months ago before his reputation was sullied.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
Ditka absolutely ruined the No Saints and the ONLY reason the Bears won a SB was because of Buddy Ryans defense. Basically they won despite Ditka as their coach.
You are slightly more intelligent than a chimpanzee.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Ditka was the Cowboys Special Teams coach before he went to Chicago to become their HC.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
So Moss was interview. Was really wondering about that. Why waste time with Tice? So if it’s Marty, Does he take us Back to the Future?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 am
Morning Whig looks like a complete dork. Don’t feel good him coaching team. Need someone like Harbaugh who will command respect. Moss is that guy.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
Hue still looking for a job huh.
lol
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
“Harbough was the HC at Stanford you moron not a ST coach. ST coaches dont get elevated to HC.
Wow where to start with this dribble….First you misspelled Harbaugh and I said John not Jim…damn you stupid.
Did you know there are 2 Harbaugh brother coaching in the NFL little brain.
One coaches the Baltimore Ravens his name is JOHN he was the Special Teams coach in Philadelphia for 9 years before be coming the Ravens head coach.
His brother JIM is the 49ers HC that came from Stanford.
WOW your stupidity has now reached a new level!!
Keep cut and pasting like KK you are looking dumber every time you write and everyone here can see it!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Interesting article. “Is Morning Whig the next great coach?”
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/1/21/2723928/is-marty-mornhinweg-the-next-great-head-coach
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Seriously, you are supposed to be an “insider” working for a blog called “inside the oakland raiders” and you still get beat to the news by other people. Plus no updates on how an interview went that happened 2 days ago, and no word on an interview that took place with the candidate most believe to be the front runner.
Steve, I dont know you, but you are not making the most of the so called “insider” name.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
Coaches hired before their 36th birthday have won just 36% of their games and really Mike Tomlin is the only guy making that number as high as it is.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
For the uneducated monkey named Brownstains….if the little man can read it?
“ohn Harbaugh (born September 23, 1962) is the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens.[1] Before his assignment with the Ravens, Harbaugh coached the defensive backs for the Philadelphia Eagles[2] and served as the Eagles special teams coach for nine years. Harbaugh and his younger brother, San Francisco 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh, are the first pair of brothers to serve as head coaches in NFL history.[3]ohn Harbaugh (born September 23, 1962) is the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens.[1] Before his assignment with the Ravens, Harbaugh coached the defensive backs for the Philadelphia Eagles[2] and served as the Eagles special teams coach for nine years. Harbaugh and his younger brother, San Francisco 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh, are the first pair of brothers to serve as head coaches in NFL history.[3]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harbaugh
Yes Special Teams coaches can be a HC
I know you feel pretty dumb now if you don’t we all feel it for you!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:18 am
Under Mornhinweg’s direction last year, Philadelphia scored a club-record 416 points.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:18 am
Peymour666Glenn, I guess you are talking to JFB in post # 194?
hahaha
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
I think you got Jim and John confused.
John, Ravens coach, was a ST coach.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
The Eagles have a lot of fat coaches.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hope its not mornhinweg or tice as our HC. Its a waste to even bother interviewing them
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
There are more I can keep proving you wrong all day long just let me know how much longer you want to be beat up and embarrassed here in this blog because I can beat your ass all day long you have zero brain power to defend yourself with!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
No JFB can see how dumb you are he is smart enough to know the difference between the Harbaugh brothers!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
Morning Whig may be kind of fun, though. He looks like a goof ball.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
JFB please explain to Brownstains the difference between the Harbaugh brothers because he is not smart enough to read from Wiki articles.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
I have a feeling Morningwood will end up as HC. If it was going to be a GB assistant I think McKbighead would have already hired him so he could start getting his staff in place. It makes sense that he might be waiting for someone who is still in the playoffs. Pagano or Fangio would be good candidates.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 am
I didnt make any mention of where Jim or John coach so why are you ranting and raving about Jim and John and posting their bio like some retarded a$$ FK’ng monkey?
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
No JFB can see how dumb you are he is smart enough to know the difference between the Harbaugh brothers!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
All I said was its retarded wanting a ST guy to be our HC and you have spent the last 20 mins babbling about John and Jim.
You FK’ng nut case moron!!!!
Cross posting troll you come in here and stick your nose where it doesn’t belong and go off on something irrelevant I didn’t even speak on…..take your FK’ng meds you ADHD monkey!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
JFB please explain to Brownstains the difference between the Harbaugh brothers because he is not smart enough to read from Wiki articles.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 am
Albert Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
Paterno should have died 6 months ago before his reputation was sullied.
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You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/22/winston-moss-already-interviewed-in-oakland/
Winston Moss already interviewed in Oakland
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 22, 2012, 1:07 PM EST
The presumptive favorite for the Raiders head coaching job quietly interviewed for the job before anyone realized it.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss met with Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie for four hours last Saturday after the Packers completed preparations for their game against the Giants. Mike Tice interviews on Tuesday.
Moss has long been seen as the favorite for the job, although speculation recently is starting to go in another direction. Schefter adds to the growing speculation that Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhingweg has a good chance to get the job.
The Raiders are expected to make their choice by the end of the week.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Firebaby!!
Whats the name of B’s cousin?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 am
Unless Perry Fewell is on Big Mac’s radar, sounds like the Tice interview is the last one.
MY PREDICTION:
Head Coach: Winston Moss
Offensive Coordinator/Primary Play-Caller: Marty Morhningweg
Defensive Coordinator: Todd Bowles
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Offensive Coordinator/Primary Play-Caller: Marty Morhningweg
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Not possible. Lateral move. Mornhinweg would have to be the HC.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Mista and 666,
Why dont you guys just meet up nd throw down. Post it on You Tube and we here on this blog will vote on the winner.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Offensive Coordinator/Primary Play-Caller: Marty Morhningweg
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Not possible. Lateral move. Mornhinweg would have to be the HC.
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Very possible. Mornhinweg may have a contract that says he can leave for another OC position, or if he wants to go to us (where, unlike Philly, he would be the offensive play-caller), Philly may opt to let him leave.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 am
What up NATION?
Green Bay Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss said Monday, Jan. 16, that he is willing to listen to Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie if he is interested in him for the team’s head coaching vacancy.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/01/16/moss-says-hes-all-ears-when-it-comes-to-raiders/#more-18454
So why is schefter reporting that McKenzie allready talked with MOSS, and MOSS saying he has not heard anything?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Albert Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Interesting article. “Is Morning Whig the next great coach?”
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/1/21/2723928/is-marty-mornhinweg-the-next-great-head-coach
Nice post. bring on Marty!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Also, if Philly doesn’t allow Marty to come here for an OC position, we could totally ask Saunders to stay on.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 am
MistaBrown Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Sure, or he has no clue who or what.
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If there is one person on earth completely clueless it is you. Every day you prove this over and over. Just like we signed Randy Moss as a free agent. You forgot the lst rounder and lst round LB we sent over for him. Those were just gifts right? Stupid moron.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 am
Thec07 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 am
What up NATION?
Green Bay Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss said Monday, Jan. 16, that he is willing to listen to Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie if he is interested in him for the team’s head coaching vacancy.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/01/16/moss-says-hes-all-ears-when-it-comes-to-raiders/#more-18454
So why is schefter reporting that McKenzie allready talked with MOSS, and MOSS saying he has not heard anything?
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Lying to media about a job you may or may not be looking at is an old sports tradition.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
Did Rod Woodson say anything about the Raiders today on NFLN?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
Lying to media about a job you may or may not be looking at is an old sports tradition.
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AKA pointless subterfuge…Stupid gamesmanship, or womanship…
Not gaining anything by lying…
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
MistaBrown Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
Hue still looking for a job huh.
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Maybe you could take him in at your dumpster and feed him some of that government cheese you have been hoarding.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
new report, hue could wind up back in bmore if cam cameron leaves.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
“If there is one person on earth completely clueless it is you. Every day you prove this over and over. Just like we signed Randy Moss as a free agent. You forgot the lst rounder and lst round LB we sent over for him. Those were just gifts right? Stupid moron.”
Exactly!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Wasbanned Says: January 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Buzz on Raiders’ job 7:51AM ET Oakland Raiders A front-runner appears to have emerged, and it’s a bit of a surprise.
Subscribe to Insider for as low as $2.50/month to access the complete rumor insider ……
Anyone have ESPN Insider?
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All I’m finding is this about Mornhinweg posted at 7:51am est (and it says nothing about a “surprise”)
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Following Reggie McKenzie’s hire as the new general manager of the Oakland Raiders — and McKenzie’s firing of Hue Jackson — many assumed that the former Green Bay Packers personnel man would hire a head coach off of Mike McCarthy’s staff. Perhaps those assumers didn’t give the process enough credit.
According to Dan Pompei of National Football Post, Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has emerged as a “strong candidate.”
Mornhinweg “has Bay area roots, was a success with the 49ers and has ties to new general manager Reggie McKenzie from their days together in Green Bay,” Pompei writes.
Another assumption being made in recent days regarding the Raiders’ opening was that a defensive coach would be the one tapped for the post, however the Mornhinweg candidacy would refute that idea as well.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
I’m tellin ya, Goldie Hawn will be our next head coach; Wild cat; she’ll get Pryor motivated to play every play baby.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 am
Man, after watching the Texans LBs finish off tackles with agression and violence I would not care at ALL if Rolando McClain was DITCHED by McKenzie.
Yeah, yeah, the Al Davis 3 yr development project with all his high DPs but still, REAL Linebackers don’t play like McClain.
Proofs in the game film. Yes, he played with a bad ankle but gives up on the run waaay too easy and out of position just alittle less than Morrison.
Could be a bubble player. I’d bundle his azz and trade for picks.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 am
^ that’s it
Can you post the link?
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 am
PLunk,
Last name is Dixon
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Conventional NFL wisdom has always had it that an effective and experienced coordinator will naturally become a successful coach. But Mornhinweg’s excellence at his current position is actually one of the few strikes against him. Good coordinators, it turns out, don’t always make great coaches.
The Eagles learned this the hard way, which led to their study. Back in 1995, Philly exec Joe Banner thought he had hired the perfect coach in Ray Rhodes, a former defensive coordinator for the Packers and 49ers. But after going 30-36-1 in four years with the Eagles, Rhodes was fired. Before his next search began, Banner analyzed 16 “elite” coaches who had appeared in at least two Super Bowls. He was startled to learn that many of the NFL’s greats — Bill Parcells, for instance — weren’t coordinators for a long or particularly successful period of time. And seven elites — Chuck Noll, Jimmy Johnson and Marv Levy among them — hadn’t been NFL coordinators at all.
Since there seemed to be no correlation between the expertise that produces or prevents touchdowns and the leadership that wins titles, Banner says his study “liberated” the Eagles to think outside the traditional pool of candidates. The result was the hiring of Reid, the Packers QB coach at the time, who impressed everyone with his attention to detail, willingness to argue with his then-boss, Holmgren, and reputation as a leader. NYU’s analysis validates the Eagles’ theories: The regular-season winning percentage of former coordinators (49.1%) is ever-so-slightly lower than that of noncoordinators (49.3%).
interesting… so moss without any coordinator experience would fit this theory
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
oh yeah plus this: 1.
They were between ages 41 and 49.
2. They had at least 11 years of NFL coaching experience.
3. They were assistants on teams that won at least 50 games over a five-year span.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Only thing against Moss it’s that he has never been a HC other than that the study shows that he would be a successful coach. If only it was that easy…
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
233. Marios. Nice job buddy! Go Raiders!~
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 am
Raider Nation-Station
Some players bewildered by angry messages from fans. They’re shocked and clueless why Raider fans are so mad.
Thats a pretty good indicator they’re likely NOT McKenzie men. Clueless to the frustration, the humiliation true Raider fans have endured all these years. Clueless to how dis-heartening it was to watch ridiculous D collapses when our team should’ve been fighting for the Legacy of one of the greatest football Legends the world has ever known.
Clueless…and why they have to go.
Theres a new era and if you don’t care about us, or winning, enjoy your off seasons somewhere else. We plan on working during the post season from now on.
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Off their FB page. Too harsh or dead on?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
How do we get Steve fired?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
I just watched the MOSS video of him describing certain aspects of the 3-4 scheme on a youtube.
what was inetresting about the video is that, they featured pittsburghs defense, during diffrent era’s.
not green bays…
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
dead on
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
Here is the story on ESPN insider:
Following Reggie McKenzie’s hire as the new general manager of the Oakland Raiders — and McKenzie’s firing of Hue Jackson — many assumed that the former Green Bay Packers personnel man would hire a head coach off of Mike McCarthy’s staff. Perhaps those assumers didn’t give the process enough credit.
According to Dan Pompei of National Football Post, Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has emerged as a “strong candidate.”
Mornhinweg “has Bay area roots, was a success with the 49ers and has ties to new general manager Reggie McKenzie from their days together in Green Bay,” Pompei writes.
Another assumption being made in recent days regarding the Raiders’ opening was that a defensive coach would be the one tapped for the post, however the Mornhinweg candidacy would refute that idea as well.
- Tim Kavanagh
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
Seems to me the NFL need to put in a new rule: no coaching hired AT ALL from any team, until the Super Bowl is over.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Sounds as if Reggie read that article.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Not mine it’s from the link Albert shared:
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Albert Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Interesting article. “Is Morning Whig the next great coach?”
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/1/21/2723928/is-marty-mornhinweg-the-next-great-head-coach
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
If Marty is our new HC, who will be the OC? I’d assume Marty would want his own guy and not Saunders.
Also, would Moss settle for DC, or would it be Bowles?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Thec07 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
new report, hue could wind up back in bmore if cam cameron leaves.
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That report is most likely from Jackson’s agent trying to drum up some buzz. Baltimore won 13 games the year before Jackson got there. The next year with Jackson they won five. Now they are in the AFC Championship Game. Right now Ozzie Newsom is “unfriending” jackson off his facebook.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Thec07 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
new report, hue could wind up back in bmore if cam cameron leaves.
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That report is most likely from Jackson’s agent trying to drum up some buzz. Baltimore won 13 games the year before Jackson got there. The next year with Jackson they won five. Now they are in the AFC Championship Game. Right now Ozzie Newsom is “unfriending” jackson off his facebook.
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Didn’t Harbaugh and Hue hate each by the time he left?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
New HC for the Raides does not mean Coach Saunders will not return as OC.
Conventional wisdom a new HC would bring in his “own guy” however, If we bring in a D minded HC, he may be open to keeping Saunders as the OCO.
HC – MOSS
OCO – Saunders
DCO – Perry
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
“Some players bewildered by angry messages from fans. They’re shocked and clueless why Raider fans are so mad.”‘
Mad? Yeah, when you have a Stanford Routt in an interview saying that “we play pretty good defense.”
ARGGGGGGGG.
The problem with this team may be the Al cared little about a player’s IQ.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
The Oakland Raiders, hoping to hire their next head coach by the end of the week, have already interviewed Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss, according to league sources.
The four-hour interview was held in Green Bay on Jan. 14 after the Packers finished a walk-through practice for their divisional playoff game against the Giants, the sources said.
Next up for the Raiders is an interview with Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice, who is scheduled to meet with Oakland officials Tuesday at the Senior Bowl.
However, multiple league sources believe Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has emerged as one of the favorites in Oakland.
Mornhinweg, the sources said, had an impressive interview with Oakland officials. He previously worked with Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie in Green Bay and was the Packers’ quarterbacks coach when Green Bay won the Super Bowl with Brett Favre.
Under Al Davis, Oakland always hired offensive-minded head coaches, and Mornhinweg would continue a decades-long tradition.
Adam Schefter as an NFL Insider for ESPN.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
I know we all want a Head Coach now but whats wrong with waiting it out for the best guy, whoever that may be? McKenzie isn’t just looking for a Head Coach, the guy is gutting the whole office and he a lot of work to do. I’m sure he is busy doing multiple things right now. And don’t forget, there are 4 teams left in the season who may have some of the best coaches. Ravens DC, Niners OC and DC. Maybe Reggie wants to wait and talk to these guys as well?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 am
aig-raiders Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
What if Reggie is waiting on Vic Fangio from the Niners?
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That would be an interesting hire. He’s looked after some real good defenses. Been in a lot of different situations, college and pros.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
Vic Fangio bio from the Niners’ website:
With an extensive coaching background that spans over two decades, Vic Fangio is in his first season as defensive coordinator of the San Francisco 49ers.
Fangio enters his 25th season coaching in the NFL, which includes 11 years of experience as a defensive coordinator for three NFL teams – Carolina (1995-98), Indianapolis Colts (1999-2001) and Houston Texans (2002-05). As a defensive coordinator, Fangio has directed defensive units that have led the NFL or ranked among the top three teams in seven or more major statistical categories.
Fangio most recently served a one year stint as the defensive coordinator for Stanford in 2010, where he led one of the nation’s top defenses. He was unanimously selected as college football’s Defensive Coordinator of the Year by three different media entities.
The Cardinal defense made significant strides under Fangio’s guidance, improving from a 90th ranked unit nationally in 2009 to a defense that ranked in the top-25 nationally in six major defensive categories in 2010. Stanford finished the year ranked 10th in scoring defense (17.4 points/game), 11th in sacks (36), 16th in passing defensive efficiency (112.79), 19th in rushing defense (120.8 yards/game), t-19th in interceptions (18) and 21st in total defense (322.8 yards/game). Within the Pac-10 Conference, the Cardinal improved from 8th to 1st in both scoring defense and sacks, while moving from 9th to 2nd in takeaways and yards allowed. In addition, Stanford posted three Pac-10 shutouts on the year; marking the first time ever the Cardinal had held opponents scoreless in three contests in a single season.
Prior to joining Stanford, Fangio served on the Baltimore Ravens coaching staff from 2006-09 as a special assistant to the head coach and linebackers coach. In his four seasons with Baltimore, the Ravens led the NFL in total defense in 2006, ranked second in 2008 and third in 2009. …
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
Hue Jackson is going to end up coaching that indoor football league team that T.O. signed with.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
I bet Raiders don’t have girls this hot at their games:
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0908/what-does-it-take-49ers-football-famous-gal-coming-over-demotivational-poster-1251610675.jpg
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 am
Whos ready for the new era?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
If the Raiders end up getting a defensive-minded DC, the Raiders will likely take a long look at Todd Haley for OC.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
Lets root for the local team today,…not east coast.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 am
FAngio was Dom Capers’ DC at Carolina and Houston.
So since people wail on Capers W-L record, should we do the same for Fangio, or applaud him for having a top 10 defense on a 5-11 team?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Fairwll coach Waufle and thanks for your service here with the Raiders.
Waufle was the best D coach the Raiders have had the last two seasons.
Since he has left, then the chances of Raiders moving more towards a 3-4 scheme is much more likely.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Lets all root for the Forty Niners today,..our local boys!
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
And morons are STILL talking about Hue Jackson in here??
Nice blog. Sheesh.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Screw the Niners and Screw the Pats!
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:36 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Screw the Niners and Screw the Pats!
Amen!
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
The Oakland Raiders, hoping to hire their next head coach by the end of the week, have already interviewed Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss, according to league sources.
The four-hour interview was held in Green Bay on Jan. 14 after the Packers finished a walk-through practice for their divisional playoff game against the Giants, the sources said.
Next up for the Raiders is an interview with Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice, who is scheduled to meet with Oakland officials Tuesday at the Senior Bowl.
However, multiple league sources believe Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg has emerged as one of the favorites in Oakland.
Mornhinweg, the sources said, had an impressive interview with Oakland officials. He previously worked with Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie in Green Bay and was the Packers’ quarterbacks coach when Green Bay won the Super Bowl with Brett Favre.
Under Al Davis, Oakland always hired offensive-minded head coaches, and Mornhinweg would continue a decades-long tradition.
Adam Schefter as an NFL Insider for ESPN.
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Wow…potentially replacing Hue Jackson with Marty freakin Morningwheg??
Ugh….Ooof!
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7489857/sources-oakland-raiders-already-interviewed-winston-moss-green-bay-packers
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
So, a week later, Schefter reports that Moss has interviewed last Saturday? And the coach to watch for is that Philly guy???
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Giants… 27.. 9ers 24 ….
Patriots 31..Ravens ..17…
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Marty Morningwheg? Really? For Hue?
Not feelin in it fellas
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Giants 21
9er 17
Pats 17
Ravens 31
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:36 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Screw the Niners and Screw the Pats!
Amen!
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Man…nobody really to root for…
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
No way Baltimore would even let Hue sells hot dogs in Baltimore.
Remember this article before the season started? I brought it up, but of course, it was just the media picking on the Raiders again.
“As for new Raiders head coach Hue Jackson, the team’s former offensive coordinator, let’s just say there’s very divided opinion around the league when it comes to him. Some view him as a strong motivator, and others consider him something of a manipulator and self-promoter. I know this to be true: When Jackson left his gig as Ravens quarterbacks coach after the 2009 season, joining Oakland as its offensive coordinator, Baltimore and head coach John Harbaugh didn’t mind seeing him go in the least.”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/08/17/snaps.judgments/index.html#ixzz1kDZUjPr9
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:43 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
If the Raiders end up getting a defensive-minded DC, the Raiders will likely take a long look at Todd Haley for OC.
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WTF does this mean?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Yep…nobody to root for today…. So im just rooting for good entertaining games…..and some nice Buds
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Actually there is someone to root for.I’ll never write it in June,July,Aug. but in January I’ll gladly write it-GO GIANTS.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
Why not Todd Haley for coach?
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
Reggie hires Matthew Costello to replace Hue.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
I dislike New York teams. I don’t care about Ravens. Go 49ers and Patriots!
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Someone better remind Reggie that in order to bring in your own guy, you need to have one. His short list was longer than the Oakland white pages. C’mon man! Let’s get on with it. Name a HC and lets get our staff in order. Reggie needs to get a move on before all the good assistant coaches are taken.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
My money is on Moss.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
luvmarvhub Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
“Some players bewildered by angry messages from fans. They’re shocked and clueless why Raider fans are so mad.”‘
Mad? Yeah, when you have a Stanford Routt in an interview saying that “we play pretty good defense.”
ARGGGGGGGG.
The problem with this team may be the Al cared little about a player’s IQ.
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If these guys a really this clueless it explains alot about the mentality they have as players. How could any one of them not see there is a problem? I just do not understand. Obviously “Wonderlick” scores did not factor in to any of Al.s picks
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
It is disgraceful that any bonafide Oakland Raider fan would root for the bishes from the other side of the bay.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
McKenzie is doing his best to keep operations the same as if Al was here.
He will take his time, interview a lot of coaches, abd then hire the only coach he didn’t interview.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
If these guys a really this clueless it explains alot about the mentality they have as players. How could any one of them not see there is a problem? I just do not understand. Obviously Wonderlic scores did not factor in to any of Al.s picks.
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For years, all Al cared about was size, speed and strength. After the JaMarcus debacle, he also began paying attention to character and commitment (for all of DHB’s faults, the man is a super-hard worker). Football IQ just never entered into what Al was looking for.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
The only NFC team I like is the Giants. Giants/Ravens SB revenge this time without Kerry Collins!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I want the Ravens to lose just because of Flacco’s lame wanna-be hipster mustache.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I’ll be rooting for Giants-Pats. Why? Put a few bucks on the Pats and a lot more on the Giants. Don’t love giving 7 with the Pats but haven’t been real impressed with the Ravens this year, especially on the road.
Don’t view the Giants as any kind of Raiders rival, the only play once every four years and there’s no notable history there, plus most of my friends are G-Men fans, so I’ll probably hang, watch the game with them and root for my money.
Pats 31, Ravens 20
Giants 20, 49ers 13
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
It is disgraceful that any bonafide Oakland Raider fan would root for the bishes from the other side of the bay.
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I don’t live in Oakland, so it doesn’t mean sh*t to me. Would much rather see 49ers win than any other AFC West team.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Did anyone else see how Troy Smith once again became a FA?Wonder how long it will be before the GMs on here will once again be begging to sign him.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
cargo plane fly-over? lame.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I agree DHB is a hard worker. I did not see alot of character on this team especially on the defensive side of the ball. We need a motivator or two on this team. Some true leaders of men.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Everyone should be sick of the Fairy 9ers & the Cheatriots in the SuperBowl by now.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
GO GIANTS
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
It is disgraceful that any bonafide Oakland Raider fan would root for the bishes from the other side of the bay.
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I stand by this statement.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I want the Ravens to lose just because of Flacco’s lame wanna-be hipster mustache.
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I’m down with the chu!!!
That thing is 1950’s gangster!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
We have TP, so we don’t need another Great QB from the best college program in the World: The Ohio State University!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
JFB, that stache looks terrible on Flacco.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Pats-Giants SB would have the 27th and 32nd ranked defenses in the Super Bowl, lol.
And of course, the #2 and #3 ranked passing offense.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
We have TP, so we don’t need another Great QB from the best college program in the World: The Ohio State University!!!
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Always with the humor and jokes,O.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Flacco is going to have a terrible day today.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Albert Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
JFB, that stache looks terrible on Flacco.
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That stach looks terible on anyone. Except Yosemite Sam
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Stats don’t tell the entire story. Giants have a great DL, and that DL is enough to win them games. They can rush the passer, and they are good against the run.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Patriots 30
Ravens 13
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Ravens 2
Pats 0
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I can’t stand the Ravens,but watching their LBs and Reed is special.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
JFB,
That’s the modern NFL. Plus the Giants D has been nasty the last few weeks. Pats don’t have to overcome another great offense between Den and Balt. Neither should be able to exploit them.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I wonder if the Raiders will make the “Al” sticker a permanent part of the uniform.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Lefty,
I wasn’t joking!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Didn’t we pass on Reed for Philip B? Wrong guy from the U!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I dont like the ravens nor the patriots so idc who wins this game just as long as the giants make it and beat them. Also hate the 49ers so i hope the giants kill them
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
anybody know a good link?
my tv wont get cbs
firsrow isnt up yet
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Albert, I hope so.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Really,well it was pretty funny.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
PUCK THE FAITRIOTS!!!!!
Go Ravens!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Sterling moore with the stop
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Pats D looks pretty good so far.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Offense alone is not enough IMHO. You need a good defense, or a defense that can creat TOs.
You can’t win with just a good offense.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
307. Judging by the way Al’s name was never mentioned during the presser and how Mac and Cheese are dismantling Davis’ legacy as fast as they can I’d say no. No they will not.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Marty was just so bad at so many aspects on-and-off the field in Detroit. He took a team that was 9-7 that made the playoffs in ’00 & won 2 games his first year in Detroit with pretty much the same group.
Showed no improvement in his 2nd year, didn’t win a road game his first 2 years in the league, and got fired after just his 2nd season because his players turned on him publicly because they realized he simply was in over his head.
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Some eagle fan wrote this about Marty.
I really hope this is not Reggies guy.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
LOL
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
You don’t get CBS? Where the hell do you live?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
LEFTY12 POST-282,YES SIR.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Marty seems like a cool guy and maybe a decent offensive coach, but doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who can assert his will over 50+ millionaire professional athletes. Just my two cents.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The Ohio State University is not the best place for QBs. We are know for our RBs & Defense.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Sterling moore with the stop
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Every time I see Sterling Moore, it makes me sick.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
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I was wondering the same thing lol. Maybe he lives in Australia or some shvt.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Known*
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Ocho not even activated lol. yikes
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
It would be hilarious if Patriots cut Ocho Cinco the week before the Super Bowl.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
CasserlyCBS Charley Casserly
Source tells me @AZCardinals to interview former @RAIDERS HC Hue Jackson for QB coaching position.
CasserlyCBS Charley Casserly
.@RAIDERS have officially requested permission to @Packers DC Dom Capers; has not interviewed yet.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Lol, that would be funny MaddenRaider.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Wow way to cheat the ravens on that one ref
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
How many times do you think we will here about the tuck rule game today?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Lol, that would be funny MaddenRaider.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Ray Lewis was covering Welker
You see a MLB has to cover for all of those who said why was McClain in coverage.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Said that was 1st Ravens penalty in last 180 plays, wow. Wonder what that would feel like.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Lol, that would be funny MaddenRaider.
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You like that Brien?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Ray Lewis was covering Welker
You see a MLB has to cover for all of those who said why was McClain in coverage.
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That’s like compairing a Lamborghini to a Hyundai.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I called it last week,alias.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Why did hue release Moore again?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I will trust Reggie’s decision on the next head coach.
Just get someone that will get the Raiders to play faster and hit harder. The Raiders always look like the softest group of football players in the league.
No push from the D-Line.
Gashed in the run defense
No secondary
Offense that is only good for a half
Stop the penalties and start getting guys that want to be out there and not just collecting a check.
The level of production for the dollars paid here in Oakland is disgraceful.
Too many so-called players took advantage of Al Davis!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
“That’s like compairing a Lamborghini to a Hyundai.”
Yeah I get that but everyone was saying how a MLB should not be in coverage and he has to its part of the job.
Sure ours sucks, but its still his job.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Too bad when the old man made the trade we couldn’t have gotten Wilford like he wanted instead of Seymour.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Why did hue release Moore again?
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Al Davis released Moore. He wanted to keep scrubs like Boyd on the team.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
morilla Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Ray Lewis was covering Welker
You see a MLB has to cover for all of those who said why was McClain in coverage.
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That’s like compairing a Lamborghini to a Hyundai.
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Why insult Hyundais like that?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Man I really want the pats to lose, but fking Flucko looks like hot garbage
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
If we hire Winston Moss as our HC he could teach McClain how to properly brandish a firearm.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
SI_PeterKing Peter King
Sterling Moore, former Raider practice-squadder, has been best NE DB through 2 possessions. What trust they have in him.
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UGHHHHHHH!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
We need a tough, mean, no no-nonsense coach!!
See:
Belicheat
hardBallz brothers
coughlin
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Hue had a couple chances to bring Moore back, Im pretty sure the Pats released him twice.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Sources: Raider Reggie McKenzie’s search for the next head coach of the Oakland Raiders has been delayed as he awaits the chance to interview Cam Cameron, offensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Too bad when the old man made the trade we couldn’t have gotten Wilford like he wanted instead of Seymour.
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Agreed. But its doubtful that New England would trade a difference maker like Wilfork in his prime years of production.
Much better to trade a player like Seymour who’s best years were behind him for that 1st rounder.
and therein lies the problem in my opinion. Too much reaching for players who’s best years are behind them….the Raiders end of buying the regressing years of these old veterans.
I can only hope Carson Palmer is an exception
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Sources: Raider Reggie McKenzie’s search for the next head coach of the Oakland Raiders has been delayed as he awaits the chance to interview Cam Cameron, offensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens.
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I hope that Reggie is waiting to talk to Chuck Pagano and Perry Fewel.
Again, the penalties and B.S would go out the door
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I don’t remember Al trying to get Wilfork. How do you know that?
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
So raiders allready interviewed moss but no one knows until now. Marty mornhingen is the front runner to get the job. Is the nation happy bout this. I’m not
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Trading draft picks for players hasn’t really worked out.
Randy Moss – 1st rounder
deAngelo Hall – 2nd rounder
Richard Seymour – 1st rounder
Carson Palmer – 1st & 2nd rounder ?????
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Trading draft picks for players hasn’t really worked out.
Randy Moss – 1st rounder
deAngelo Hall – 2nd rounder
Richard Seymour – 1st rounder
Carson Palmer – 1st & 2nd rounder ?????
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Redskins tried this for a few years….didn’t work out for them either.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
I have no problem with Morningweigh if this is the guy Reggie thinks should be the man.
He wouldn’t be my choice…but I will trust Reggie’s judgement.
The biggest thing I want to see is a Head Coach that manages the team and an OC, DC, ST that each run their sides of the ball and call the plays.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Ben-Stiller Cam Jarvis Red Green Monta Ellis for the TD!!!!!!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
354.Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I don’t remember Al trying to get Wilfork. How do you know that?
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Thats who Al called the patriots about, they didn’t want to deal him but they offered up Seymour
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
How many names does one dude need? Dikembe is even laughing at that guy.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Dakota,
About the only time I can see trading a top pick for a player is something like the Jay Cutler situation.
Where you get an top talent that still has SEVERAL prime production years ahead of him. Which means a player somewhere between 25 and 28 years old.
Once a player gets to 33-35…..they decline quickly
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I understand that Detroit was a black vortex for alot of coaches, etc. is Morningwig that bad or is his name that bad?
What’s the knock on Jack Del Rio?
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
1st round picks are for getting elite players that can give you high levels of production from 21 – 31 or 10 years or so.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
They ran it for the TD. Damn! I hate both teams, but I hate the pats more than any team in the NFL including:
Division teams
Whiners
Ravens
Giants
Jets
My other favorite NFL team (IF I had to pick one) would be GB. The Fans own the team.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Trading draft picks for players hasn’t really worked out.
Randy Moss – 1st rounder
deAngelo Hall – 2nd rounder
Richard Seymour – 1st rounder
Carson Palmer – 1st & 2nd rounder ?????
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The above list could be at least 5 diff makers/starters.
These days are over…With a sound personnel dept, you can build thru the draft…
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Is it possible we can get carmichael as our OC? Of we have to get him to be HC
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
363 I think Del Rio is still getting paid. He will get back in the game after a couple years off IMO
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
360,
Thank you, but how do you know that?
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I guess Detroit went 9-7 the year before Marty got there, Then he took the same team and only won 2 games
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
The above list could be at least 5 diff makers/starters.
These days are over…With a sound personnel dept, you can build thru the draft…
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McKenzie has his work cut out….Ravens driving for a score to tie…lets see if they can punch it in, Pats up 10-3
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Once a player gets to 33-35…..they decline quickly
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the pats have made it a sceince in getting all they can out of guys then at a certain age or contract term they pawn them off to some unsuspecting dupe, and get primium picks….
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
369,
Thats what was being reported
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Fluko looks like the guy on the Tapitio hot sauce bottle. Wish he would get it in gear I hate the Pats
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
That guy New England drafted with the Seymour pick (Solder) is dominating.
I would trade them Seymour back and another #1 pick for him as our RT.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
354.Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I don’t remember Al trying to get Wilfork. How do you know that?
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Thats who Al called the patriots about, they didn’t want to deal him but they offered up Seymour
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That’s the story I remember as well Raider O. The old bait and switch.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
CharleyCasserly Charley Casserly
.@RAIDERS have officially requested permission to @Packers DC Dom Capers; has not interviewed yet.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
If Carson Palmer still has fuel in the tank and can give the Raiders 2 or 3 more years….then Morningweigh should be able to do something with him.
In detroit, he had Joey Harrington
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
TW,
I wanted to keep Saundes, Waufle, Wylie, Wiz, and Rod.
HC: Moss
DC/ Assistant HC: Del Rio keep 4-3 defense.
OC: Saunders
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Once a player gets to 33-35…..they decline quickly
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the pats have made it a sceince in getting all they can out of guys then at a certain age or contract term they pawn them off to some unsuspecting dupe, and get primium picks….
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Pats are good at finding players ; Danny Woodhead, BJ Green-Ellis, Julian Edelman, the back ups simply just come off from vets (the way the Raiders used to do it)
Pats get special teams guys who can also contribute to sub packages
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I read some article that said Barnes is a must-resign guy for the Raiders?
WTF is that a joke?
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
If Carson Palmer still has fuel in the tank and can give the Raiders 2 or 3 more years….then Morningweigh should be able to do something with him.
In detroit, he had Joey Harrington
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I agree. decent hire
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
TD Dennis Pitta, Ravens tie.
they needed that one
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Here you go Joe!
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Jeeez, every channel I turn on has the Paterno story, even the major news networks….you’d think the Pope died or something.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
article that said Barnes is a must-resign guy for the Raiders?
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Talking banes gets my blood boiling…If i could hate someone he would be that guy…
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
354.Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I don’t remember Al trying to get Wilfork. How do you know that?
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Thats who Al called the patriots about, they didn’t want to deal him but they offered up Seymour
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That’s the story I remember as well Raider O. The old bait and switch.
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Neither won a Super Bowl after the deal, so it was actually a good deal for the Raiders, because they got to .500.
That being said , they have under-achieved, and are not getting the most out of highly paid players like Huff, Wimbley, etc.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Pats are good at finding players
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This is wehre I hope to see the biggest improvement with the org…TeGM being able to build thru the draft, and find that talent…
No more reaches
No more prospects
No more converts
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dakota,
Since all of you agree, I’m assuming it was mentioned by the media.
I’m very familiar with the good ol’ Bait & Switch.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
354.Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I don’t remember Al trying to get Wilfork. How do you know that?
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Thats who Al called the patriots about, they didn’t want to deal him but they offered up Seymour
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That’s the story I remember as well Raider O. The old bait and switch.
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Neither won a Super Bowl after the deal, so it was actually a good deal for the Raiders, because they got to .500.
That being said , they have under-achieved, and are not getting the most out of highly paid players like Huff, Wimbley, etc.
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Actually, the Pats still have a chance to win the SB in the first year with the pick they got from us don’t they?
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dakota,
Since all of you agree, I’m assuming it was mentioned by the media.
I’m very familiar with the good ol’ Bait & Switch.
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IU believe Bilicheat talked about it.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
We should use M Reece same way the Pats use A Hernandez.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
To be honest, I was generally indifferent to trading the draft picks before the Carson deal. The reason was I didn’t feel Al Davis put the proper value on the 1st and 2nd round picks and ended up using them to draft reaches.
With Reggie and staff making the picks AND the new salary agreeement for rookies….those top picks are worth a heck of a lot more.
Hue should not have traded those draft picks for 32 year old Carson Palmer
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I wasn’t sure which team I wanted to win this game, but I am finding myself rooting for the Pats.
I think I am still pissed about the Fat Fuk Flop that cost us a SB in 2001. More pissed at the Ravens about that deliberate play than I am at the Pats about the refs fking us in the early part of the playoffs in the Snow Job game.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Too bad we didn’t get Wilfork. He is younger, and he is better against the run. He can also rush the passer, but not as good as Seymour.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Too bad we didn’t get Wilfork. He is younger, and he is better against the run. He can also rush the passer, but not as good as Seymour.
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Trades for vets like Seymour and Palmer should be no higher than a 2nd rounder…….and that would be a mid-2nd rounder to boot.
AND the team should be on the cusp of doing something great….not just trying to get over.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I hate the Pats! I’m still pi$$ed about the tuck rule.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
354.Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I don’t remember Al trying to get Wilfork. How do you know that?
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Thats who Al called the patriots about, they didn’t want to deal him but they offered up Seymour
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That’s the story I remember as well Raider O. The old bait and switch.
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Neither won a Super Bowl after the deal, so it was actually a good deal for the Raiders, because they got to .500.
That being said , they have under-achieved, and are not getting the most out of highly paid players like Huff, Wimbley, etc.
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Actually, the Pats still have a chance to win the SB in the first year with the pick they got from us don’t they?
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Irrelevant. They already won and had Tom Brady.
too much was made about “what we gave up”. What the f&%k did we do when we had the pick?
JaMarcus Russell, Huff, McLain – not ONE impact player
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Damn!
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I hate the Pats! I’m still pi$$ed about the tuck rule.
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I hate them too, but what was worse, a deliberate attempt to injure our starting qb in the afc championship, or the refs fking us against the pats. The Pats really didn’t have anything to do with that. I hate what it started, but really the Ravens fked us on purpose.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
When you play good defense….you can keep yourself in the game even if your offense isn’t playing lights out or even very well.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Man are they letting the Ravens hold.Those are some of the most blatant holds you’ll ever see and there are no flags.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I wasn’t sure which team I wanted to win this game, but I am finding myself rooting for the Pats.
I think I am still pissed about the Fat Fuk Flop that cost us a SB in 2001. More pissed at the Ravens about that deliberate play than I am at the Pats about the refs fking us in the early part of the playoffs in the Snow Job game.
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13-10, Pats, good playoff game…i got a feeling Pats methodically will move down the field, where the Ravens will get a big bomb – they just missed a huge one with Torrey Smith (why wasnt DHB fast, like this guy?)
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Raider Sam #398,
Agreed, with Al making the picks, those 1st & 2nd rounders were not really worth much.
But when Al passed, it was unfortunate that the team allowed Hue to trade two picks that now have long-term value for a quick fix that didn’t even work
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
To be honest, I was generally indifferent to trading the draft picks before the Carson deal. The reason was I didn’t feel Al Davis put the proper value on the 1st and 2nd round picks and ended up using them to draft reaches.
With Reggie and staff making the picks AND the new salary agreeement for rookies….those top picks are worth a heck of a lot more.
Hue should not have traded those draft picks for 32 year old Carson Palmer
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They beat San Diego, were not having this discussion – bottom line is THEY COULDNT DRAFT, PERIOD.
Thats why they had to make these deals – the drafts were awful around 2010
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
2001-Fat Fuk Flop on our QB
2002-Snow Job
2003-Gruden destroys us
How did any of us survive that run? Probably not as bad as watching the Raiders lose so many big games in the 1970s, but still…
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Give it up SnB,quit your whining.It has been proven you can win with a great offense and a lousy to mediocre defense,just as it has been proven you can win with a great defense and a mediocre to lousy offense.Not one way is ‘THE ANSWER’.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Raider Sam #398,
Agreed, with Al making the picks, those 1st & 2nd rounders were not really worth much.
But when Al passed, it was unfortunate that the team allowed Hue to trade two picks that now have long-term value for a quick fix that didn’t even work
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I will say that this is a defensive heavy draft – wouldve been good to get Courtney Upshaw at rush OLB, or Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson.
Ravens will be lucky to get off the field…just hold onto the ball and keep Brady off. Brady had it going on that last series
3rd and 14 for Ravens – nice 15 yard gain
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
2001-Fat Fuk Flop on our QB
2002-Snow Job
2003-Gruden destroys us
How did any of us survive that run? Probably not as bad as watching the Raiders lose so many big games in the 1970s, but still…
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I heard that after that SB loss, Greg Papa said Al Davis’ health really began to decline
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Al was drafting good these past few years, imo
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Gibson
Philip B
Washington
N Harris
Gallery
T Baryton
Jabustus
RIP Al
Get to work McKenzie
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Did we draft any of those guys in the last 3 years?
I just hope Reggie can find the talent like Al has ben doing in the middle rounds, cause thats where all of are picks are going to be this year
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Espn saying that raiders have already interviewed Moss
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7489857/sources-oakland-raiders-already-interviewed-winston-moss-green-bay-packers
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
402.
Ray Lewis has already killed one man… the refs might be worried he’ll kill again.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
409.RaiderSam Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
2001-Fat Fuk Flop on our QB
2002-Snow Job
2003-Gruden destroys us
How did any of us survive that run? Probably not as bad as watching the Raiders lose so many big games in the 1970s, but still…
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I heard that after that SB loss, Greg Papa said Al Davis’ health really began to decline
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3 SB’s we could have easily been in and won and so many in here say no way to gruden coming back.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Gallery is the worse pick in Raiders history IMO. That was one of the best drafts in history, and we get a G. Not a PB G. Guard!
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Last 3 years:
Seymour
McClain
DHB
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Gallery was a can’t miss type player, I believe he didn’t give up any sacks over a two year period at Iowa. It just goes to show you there is no such thing as a sure thing.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
@RaiderNewsFlashOaklandRaidersNews
breaking:Mark Davis has told me personally that they will have a new coach within 7 days, basically this week..I believe its Moss
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January 22nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
2010 8 Rolando McClain MLB Alabama
2009 7 Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
2008 4 Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
2007 1 JaMarcus Russell QB Louisiana State
2006 7 Michael Huff SS Texas
2005 23 Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
2004 2 Robert Gallery T Iowa
2003 31 Nnamdi Asomugha CB California
2003 32 Tyler Brayton DE Colorado
2002 17 Phillip Buchanon CB Miami (Fla.)
2002 23 Napoleon Harris MLB Northwestern
2001 28 Derrick Gibson DB Florida State
2000 17 Sebastian Janikowski K Florida State
1999 18 Matt Stinchcomb T Georgia
1998 4 Charles Woodson CB Michigan
1998 23 Mo Collins T Florida
1997 2 Darrell Russell DE USC
1996 9 Rickey Dudley TE Ohio State
1995 18 Napoleon Kaufman RB Washington
1994 22 Rob Fredrickson OLB Michigan State
1993 12 Patrick Bates DB Texas A&M
1992 16 Chester McGlockton DT Clemson
1991 24 Todd Marinovich QB USC
1990 11 Anthony Smith DE Arizona
1989 No Pick –
1988 6 Tim Brown WR Notre Dame
1988 9 Terry McDaniel DB Tennessee
1988 25 Scott Davis DE Illinois
1987 15 John Clay T Missouri
1986 24 Bob Buczkowski DE Pittsburgh
1985 23 Jessie Hester WR Florida State
1984 No Pick –
1983 26 Don Mosebar C USC
1982 10 Marcus Allen RB USC
1981 21 Ted Watts DB Texas Tech
1981 23 Curt Marsh G Washington
1980 15 Marc Wilson QB Brigham Young
1979 No Pick –
1978 No Pick –
1977 No Pick –
1976 No Pick –
1975 24 Neal Colzie DB Ohio State
1974 19 Henry Lawrence T Florida A&M
1973 23 Ray Guy P Southern Mississippi
1972 21 Mike Siani WR Villanova
1971 19 Jack Tatum DB Ohio State
1970 24 Raymond Chester TE Morgan State
1969 22 Art Thoms DT Syracuse
1968 25 Eldridge Dickey WR Tennessee State
1967 17 Gene Upshaw G Texas A&M – Kingsville
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Raider O Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I hate the Pats! I’m still pi$$ed about the tuck rule.
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I cant stand the ravens for what saragoose did to Gannon, and no flag.
Tuck rule was such a sham.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Gallery isn’t even close to being the worst pick in Raider history.How can you say that when the bust was the worst pick in NFL history?
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Let the Capers era begin!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Realtruraider Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Gallery was a can’t miss type player, I believe he didn’t give up any sacks over a two year period at Iowa. It just goes to show you there is no such thing as a sure thing.
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They didnt take into account his arm length – something big time Player-Personnel people and scouts regularly acknowledge, along with off – field issues. We missed on that aspect, Russell’s apnea/purple drank addiction, and McClain off-field issues/in Decauter (shot at once, shot someone by ear)
that ENDS with McKenzie here. He is doing due diligence and probably just seeing how candidates would go on with putting a staff together and playcalling strategem, etc.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
John Clay was the worst Raider 1st round pick.
Who is John Clay you say?
Exactly!!!
He played like 10 games and was out of the league.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Is AL the only Owner/GM to take a kicker twice in the first round? Ray Guy and Sea
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
So many bad picks to choose from. Patrick Bates…Dudley etc
The Gallery pick bothers me the most.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Capers, Morningweg, Carmichael
LOL at Brady talking smack to Ray Lewis!!!
hilarious, they’re driving…..
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Dakota Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
So many bad picks to choose from. Patrick Bates…Dudley etc
The Gallery pick bothers me the most.
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they passed on Rothlisberger, Fitz and Sean Taylor
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Many of those picks were considered ’safe’ picks when they were made-players that were can’t miss guys.As someone said,it shows what a crap shoot the draft really is.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
The Oakland Raiders recently met with Packers assistant head coach/inside linebackers coach Winston Moss in Green Bay about their open head-coaching position, and multiple league sources said the session did not go particularly well.
At this point in their search, the Raiders have only interviewed one person in Oakland — Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg.
Sources said Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie is expected to expand his search for Hue Jackson’s replacement this week. The Raiders also have interviewed Denver Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen and former Miami Dolphins interim coach Todd Bowles, but those interviews happened outside Oakland.
Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy also is on the Raiders’ list of candidates, along with Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers and New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr.
Follow Jason La Canfora on Twitter @JasonLaCanfora.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Sam,so did a lot of other teams.It is easy to be correct using hindsight.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Al was starting to get his swagger back in the middle rounds these past few years.
You could check out other teams first rounders, I believe its like 50/50 on actually getting a player in the first round that produces like a first rounder should.
Yeah he wasn’t the best when it came to first rounders, no doubt
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
431. Wonder is Scooter didnt want to pay Moss what he wanted. How else would it not go well?
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Gallery isn’t even close to being the worst pick in Raider history.How can you say that when the bust was the worst pick in NFL history?
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Gallery was the biggest bust with respect to who was passed on
Rothlisberger – SB appearance
Fitz – SB appearance, numerous receiving records
Taylor – tragic death, but S with explosive, jarring tackling
if fact; Phillip Rivers, DeAngelo Hall, Jonathan Vilma, DE Will Smith and Vince Wilfork all came from that draft
then the 2nd bust was Jake Grove – passing on Nick Hardwick, Darnell Dockett and Shaun Phillips – 2004 appeared to be a fantastic draft for Chargers.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
How else would it not go well?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Ah,maybe he(Reggie) didn’t like what he heard.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
JFB,POST-425,BOB BUCZKOWSKI..
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Al Loved The Ohio State university. He drafted 3 players in the 1st RD from there, but we all know his favorite was USC ( 4 players).
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Lefty
That was suppose to be Reg’s boy. I dont see where all of a sudden they had a bad interview.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Fk I was pulling for Moss, Wonder what happened in the interview
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Oakland traded out of the 42nd pick in the 2010 Draft to Get the 44th Pick and 190th Pick
Raiders drafted Lamar Houston 44th and Travis Goethel 190th
New England used the 42nd Pick to get Rob Gronkowski.
What if Raiders would have taken Gronkowski at 42 instead of trading the pick?
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
WONDER IF $$ WAS AN ISSUE WITH MOSS..
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
If the Pats win the SB they should cut that trophy in half and send it to Oakland.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Hindsight,Sam,hindsight.When he was picked EVERYONE said Gallery was the best T to enter the draft in years.He was compared to All-Pros.It was said the Raiders would have their starting LT for 10-15 years.All the scouts and GMs were saying the same thing.Certainly he was a bad pick because he didn’t turn out,but he wasn’t the wrong pick like the bust was if the old man had done any homework.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
new post
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Dan,did we ever actually hear McKenzie say Moss was his guy?Maybe after interviewing others he realized possibly Moss wasn’t his best choice.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Theres Sterling Moore for ya
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Sterling Moore with the Raider-ish missed tackle.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
S. Moore and I thought he was going to be good.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Hindsight,Sam,hindsight.When he was picked EVERYONE said Gallery was the best T to enter the draft in years.He was compared to All-Pros.It was said the Raiders would have their starting LT for 10-15 years.All the scouts and GMs were saying the same thing.Certainly he was a bad pick because he didn’t turn out,but he wasn’t the wrong pick like the bust was if the old man had done any homework.
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Agreed. hindsight sticks out like a whore in a monastery with this franchise. I mean, they just missed and they missed a lot.
They have to get that sorted out. It just was not their era, period. No 1,000 yard rushers no double digit interception DBs, no double digit sackers, no 15-20 TD rbs, etc.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Oakland traded out of the 42nd pick in the 2010 Draft to Get the 44th Pick and 190th Pick
Raiders drafted Lamar Houston 44th and Travis Goethel 190th
New England used the 42nd Pick to get Rob Gronkowski.
What if Raiders would have taken Gronkowski at 42 instead of trading the pick?
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wouldnt matter, the Raiders dont employ their TE the same way, and Jacoby Ford pretty much balances that “miss” out.
There is NO way Gronkowski would put the same numbers up – we had a transition in QB’s, OC’s, etc
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
They got that call wrong. Smith’s foot touched the ground out of bounds before he hit the pylon.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
oh snap!
Ravens recovered!!!! Woodhead fumbles!
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Redshirt Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
They got that call wrong. Smith’s foot touched the ground out of bounds before he hit the pylon.
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Oh well. Guess Brady will have to “pull out” another SNOW JOB.
LOVIN IT!
in fact,
McLovin it!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I watched the entire 45 min press conference – McKenzie never mentioned Moss
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
The more I read about morninhwig the more I like him.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
And don’t bring that trash in here – “what if we got Gronkowski instead of the Pats?” He’d be sitting at home right now with 1 or 2 TD grabs in his career and records left unbroken. Brady is why he is so good.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
QB sneak, T.Brady – Pats back in lead
reviewing the play
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Redshirt Says:
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
And don’t bring that trash in here – “what if we got Gronkowski instead of the Pats?” He’d be sitting at home right now with 1 or 2 TD grabs in his career and records left unbroken. Brady is why he is so good.
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Agree. great QB, functional organization…dominant organization with player-personnel…
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
DEFENSIVE STAND RAVENS!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Damn!!!!
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Brady sneaks it in anyway…..
February 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
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