Raiders without more than head coach right now; Tice scratched
By Steve Corkran
Monday, January 23rd, 2012 at 6:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie is in Mobile, Ala., for the Senior Bowl. He arrived there Monday, with eight scouts in tow and no coordinators or assistant coaches. For good reason: all effectively are out of work.
For now, at least. The Raiders removed the coaches page from their official website. That lends further credence to McKenzie’s stance that whoever he hires as the replacement for the fired Hue Jackson will be allowed to hire his own staff.
Given that, some, most or none of the coaches from Jackson’s staff will be back in 2012, even those whose contracts haven’t expired.
Defensive line coach Mike Waufle and wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal already bolted, with Waufle going to the St. Louis Rams and Lal to the New York Jets in the same capacity they served the Raiders.
During his few days in Mobile, McKenzie intends to interview some prospective candidates for the Raiders head coaching vacancy.
His scheduled interview with Chicago Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice on Tuesday has been canceled, according to multiple reports from Chicago.
“I was disappointed I wasn’t able to complete the interview process,” Tice told ESPNChicago.com. “But let me say this: I’m very excited about the opportunity and the new position I have with the Bears. I strongly believe everything happens for a reason. And I think there are some great reasons to be in Chicago.”
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January 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
1st
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Hopefully, Wylie and Classic Wiz will be back at the very least…
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
According to nfl.com, Tice will not be interviewed…looks like Reggie getting closer to making a decision
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Take your time Reggie.
Our division sucks, so no need to panic and hire someone just to satisfy the fans.
Bring in a defensive minded HC, and fix the side that caused us the division!
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
546.303Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Lovie Smith is an exception. I should have clarified by asking can anyone point to a time where the new GM who came kept the current coach AND had success the following year?
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I don’t think you can compare our situation to most. Most GM jobs come open because the other GM gets fired, which usually happends because the team had a bad year and they want change from the top to the bottom, so firing the HC is usually what happends. We had a unique situation where the long time owner/GM Passed. Our HC had a decent year considering everything that happend in his first year as a HC.
If Reggie would of kept Hue I would of ben more than fine with it, I understand he wants his own guy and Im fine with that to.
I just don’t think its fair to compare the Raiders GM hire to any Ol’ GM hire, it is a vey unique situation, don’t you think?
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
The difference between the Al Davis era and the Reggie McKenzie era is that Al Davis could not be fired. It is a big difference.
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
If Reggie fired Hue because he wanted to bring in his own guy, who is that guy of his he wants to bring in?
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
I believe AJ Smith took over in SD when the old GM was sick or passed away or something like that. He kept Marty Schottenheimer around for 3 or 4 years after that.
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Years of failure with Al went unpunished. Reggie is going to have to stand on his own.
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
If it is Allen we should be kicking the doncos butts for years
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
I heard on the radio today that Bowles is staying put in Miami.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
At least Tice is out of the running. I hope that Wylie and Wiz 1.0 stay. I understand allowing the new head coach the freedom to hire their own staff but what they did with the talent or lack of talent on the OL last season was amazing. Since we are a couple of (more) years away from even thinking about playoffs Reggie needs to make keeping talented coaches already under contract a priority. Some of Reggie’s choices for interviews have been suspect so far. I don’t understand how Reggie isn’t interviewing Chuck Pagano or Vic Fangio if he is thinking defensive minded coach. At least consider someone from the Raven’s or 49′ers staff. If he wants offense why not go the college route? What about guys like WV’s Dana Holgorsen or Mike Leech? They would be flat out fun to watch! Since my favorite Trestman isn’t being considered. (BIG MISTAKE REGGIE!!) At least bring someone in that’s gonna shake things up. That’s the Raider Way.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
http://justblogbaby.com/2012/01/23/raiders-whiffed-on-sterling-moore/
It was Hueless!
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Allen is known for his aggressive “bend but don’t break” defensive play calling that gives up a lot of yards, but also forces many sacks and turnovers. In 2009 in New Orleans, the Saints ranked 3rd in interceptions despite giving up 321 yards per game.[1] Allen’s Broncos finished the year 20th in yards allowed, T-9 in sacks, and T-29 in takeaways.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
NFL Network reporting Bowles not expected back in Miami.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Allen was also on a team that was ball control oriented. And his Defense still gave up 49 to the Packers, 45 to the Lions, 40 to the Bills, 32 to the Vikings (with no Adrian Peterson……..WTF!!!???) and the 40+ to the Pats (twice). And that’s with personnel that fit the 3-4 scheme. I’ll pass on Allen…….Not very impressive.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Wonder if Michael Huff is still gonna be converted to a Corner Back! That’s what Hue Jack said
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
RealTrueRaider:
I agree our situation was unique. I wanted HueJax to stay and made the case for him to keep his job.
I have come to realize Reggie was gonna bring in his own guy, especially since Hue went 1-4 down the stretch and was mouthing off in the final press confenrce.
Doesn’t matter as he is long gone and so far no one wants him.
Got to give ReggieMac time….
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
If we become a 3-4 defense, I bet Asomugha is gonna wanna come back for less money.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
If Bowles not returning to Miami is in any way linked to Oakland, this is what I see:
HC: Morninhweg
OC: Saunders
DC: Bowles
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
That’s why I would like to see Saunders retained as OC for some continuity is retained on the offensive side of the ball.
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At this point, couldn’t agree more. And to Tice, whew!
But, what is Carson gonna do? I hope he is all in on these changes…
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Finally some good news. Thanks for scratching Tice.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Allen is a 4-3 guy.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
If nobody knew Moss had interviewed over a week before it was revealed then it stands to reason that McKenzie could have interviewed many more and we just don’t know about it yet.
I don’t think any of those “other guys” include Gruden.
As fun as that might be.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Well Gruden would pay for himself just in ticket sales
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I heard somebody mention whay Gruden did with Gannon and how the Palmer situation would be pefect for Gruden to come into.
Why “work” for your millions if u don’t have to.
We can blame the media for over glorifying the guy to the extent they have for turning a good coach into a celebrity who doesn’t need to do the distasteful stuff like coaching, although I recall him saying how he loves coaching so much he could never see himself doing anything else.
I guess that lasted as long as it took ESPN to show him how much he could make by NOT working.
He gave up his supposed “passion” of coaching for money and an easier life.
Who could blame him I guess.
I want to though.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Dennis Allen Coaching tree
NFL head coaches under whom Dennis Allen has served:
Wade Phillips: Dallas Cowboys
Sean Payton: New Orleans Saints
John Fox: Denver Broncos
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Twocents Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Tweedy, no, that is not what I’m saying. I would not hire either of them to coach my team. Don’t think they are in the top tier.
Is it cause Gruden is White?
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Mongo gave no real reason for letting Hue go except for he wants to bring in his own guy. But then we find out he doesn’t know who that guy is. Then he seeks out a bunch of guys that every other GM in the league has forgotten that they are still alive. Interviews some and cancels an interview with another.
And people trust that he knows what he is doing? If it ends up being Moss, He is still a tard for screwing around all this time. If it’s not Moss he was talking out his a$$ during the presser and put us in a real bind if he is unable to secure a real coach and not some loser retread.
I would think when you say your going to bring in YOUR guy….you should maybe know who that guy might be.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
I think we should go after Del Rio. But, he hasn’t been mentioned anywhere.
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/jim-harbaugh-compares-bradshaw-non-fumble-to-tuck-rule/
Harbaugh is sounding like a sore loser
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Mongo gave no real reason for letting Hue go except for he wants to bring in his own guy. But then we find out he doesn’t know who that guy is. Then he seeks out a bunch of guys that every other GM in the league has forgotten that they are still alive. Interviews some and cancels an interview with another.
And people trust that he knows what he is doing? If it ends up being Moss, He is still a tard for screwing around all this time. If it’s not Moss he was talking out his a$$ during the presser and put us in a real bind if he is unable to secure a real coach and not some loser retread.
I would think when you say your going to bring in YOUR guy….you should maybe know who that guy might be.
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How was he “talking out his a$$ during the presser?” He didn’t even mention the name “Winston Moss” at any point.
By “his own guy,” he meant someone he could trust and who would have the same vision for the team. That obviously wasn’t Hue “Greatest Trade in History/I Had Nothing to Do with It” Jackson.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Well, no matter who it is, at least they’ll hire their own staff, and there won’t be any game plan meddling by an owner who insists on man coverage and throwing the ball 3 times for every running play.
But I still think away from that kind of hands on football meddling, Mark will be similar to his dad. We’re seeing it in this coaching search. There is nothing about this head coaching search that isn’t more of the same.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
I’ll be convinced it’s a new day in Alameda when Reggie takes a brick laying, run stopping linebacker with our first pick.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Duck
I’m not sticking up for Hue. But if you want a new job is it responsible to quit the job you have before or after you find another? No.
My point is. If he had no idea who his guy was, Wasn’t it irresponsible to fire a guy who can come to work tomorrow and take you into next season. The position we are in is if Reg is unable to find HIS guy right now what do we do? Bring in someone to cover for this next season? Bring in someone who is not quit his guy…but might be?
Just saying looking at how this has played out I just don’t feel what he did was well thought out.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Sully, do you really think that Mark Davis is telling McKenzie who to interview?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Harbaugh is exposing himself. Jim Schwartz is vindicated. The media made Schartz out to be some kind of grouch and Harbaugh out to be a compassionate competitor. Then Harbaugh burns the same media on one of the industry’s most important events, the conference championship post game interview. I don’t know when the media’s going to learn to stop sucking off every white athlete or coach that has a good run. Give credit where it’s due but stop trying to create heroes.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Twocents Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Sully, do you really think that Mark Davis is telling McKenzie who to interview?
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Haven’t I been saying it all day? Yes.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
All home games were sold out with H Jackson as coach how is Gruden going to improve on that?
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Raiderbuck Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Well Gruden would pay for himself just in ticket sales
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Gruden is so awesome, he improves AWAY ticket sales
More shared revenue.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
M Tice is a brick head.
Problem is our GM might be as well…
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I’ll say this, and i’m speaking strictly for myself, but i would have more respect for Gruden if he came back to coaching instead of sticking with his cushy job in broadcasting.
He’s a young guy and could have a lot left to give as a HC.
I don’t need him on tv telling me how great this or that guy is.
I get it. Who can blame him.
Apparently the burning desire to become a truly noteworthy HC and really make his stamp on this game are just not there for him.
Again, I get it. Selfish part of me just doesn’t like it.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Why does everyone assume that when McKenzie said “I want to bring in my own guy” that he already had someone in mind for the HC job?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Can anyone think of someone that was a mediocre position coach or coordinator that became a very good head coach?
I can’t think of any. People that are the best head coaches were known as exceptional coordinators or position coaches before moving up.
That’s why I don’t like the Tice one (glad he’s not an option) or the Denver guys.
I really like Pagano or Fagio as possibilities though if we do interview them.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
They would actually be purchased by fans and not Mark Davis
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MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
All home games were sold out with H Jackson as coach how is Gruden going to improve on that?
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Raiderbuck Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Well Gruden would pay for himself just in ticket sales
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I think we normally speak for ourselves. With the exception of Peymour666, she likes to speak for the entire blog.
Have you spoke for others before?
Just curious.
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Djohnnyg Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I’ll say this, and i’m speaking strictly for mysel
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Why does everyone assume that when McKenzie said “I want to bring in my own guy” that he already had someone in mind for the HC job?
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Because he fired the coach and let the coaching staff go on there way. Why would you do that Not knowing who YOUR guy is. What if your guy isnt just sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring. Just seems like a bad idea.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Raider For Life
At this high level, it’s considered dumb business to fire someone without having a better replacement ready.
And yes, this often entails some behind-the-scenes work. That McKenzie didn’t do this is a red flag for him and/or Davis.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
I don’t think Mark Davis has any intention of interfering with McKenzie. I believe the man has put the football side of things in the hands of McKenzie.
Now, if McKenzie doesn’t deliver, then he will be like any other owner and have to make a decision.
I don’t think that is going to be a problem for many years.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
39.MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
All home games were sold out with H Jackson as coach how is Gruden going to improve on that?
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Raiderbuck Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Well Gruden would pay for himself just in ticket sales
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How many sellouts will Raiders have if Reggie blows it all up for a 2-3 yr. “rebuilding” process?
How many people in the seats when Raiders are sitting at 2-7?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
I really like Pagano or Fagio as possibilities though if we do interview them.
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Pagono is interviewing with the Colts.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Why does everyone assume that when McKenzie said “I want to bring in my own guy” that he already had someone in mind for the HC job?
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Yeah. Who would draw that conclusion? Of course, what he could have meant by “one guy” is searching the entire league for retreads.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I don’t see any panic in McKenzie, he seems to have everything under control. If people want to leave, it is fine with him. He is a man with a plan, looking at the best options to turn this franchise around. Give him some time and you will get on board.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
In fairness we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.
It took us aover a week to find out he had interviewed Moss and NOONE (Shefter, et al) knew about it till well after the fact.
We can hope it’s all just part of his grand scheme and in the end, we’ll have a guy we can hang our hat on.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
MR, where is your spooning partner KK?
Making you some dinner and then dim the lights ?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
We already have someone we can hang our hats on, Reggie McKenzie.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
So much confidence in Reggie, as if he has rebuilt any franchise in his life!
Blind faith.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
I hope he proves me wrong. But unless the entire GB staff walks out of Wisconsin things might get thin as far as coaches if he doesn’t act soon.
My guess is Bresh is his plan “B”. Would you be on board with that?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
twocents, you don’t even know McKenzie. He was an obscure front office employee in Green Bay just two weeks ago. Would you quit it with the engaging write ups on him?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
46.MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I think we normally speak for ourselves. With the exception of Peymour666, she likes to speak for the entire blog.
Have you spoke for others before?
Just curious.
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Djohnnyg Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I’ll say this, and i’m speaking strictly for mysel
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I guess I just say that cuz I know it’s an unpoular point and know there aren’t many who would agree with me.
True. I guess we all are “speaking for ourselves”.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
“During his few days in Mobile, McKenzie intends to interview some prospective candidates for the Raiders head coaching vacancy.”…
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McKenzie to the guy behing him buying nachos at the snack bar… “Hey… Ever coach any football?’
I don’t know whether to be worried or not…
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Twocents Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
We already have someone we can hang our hats on, Reggie McKenzie.
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LOL.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Mista, what can I say, you see someone that you think knows what they are doing and you go with him. Who is your man?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Djohnnyg speaks for me.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Reggie McKenzie was there when my kid needed an emergency operation.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 pm
When my daughter graduated from college, there was Reggie McKenzie. He’s the right man for us.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Good God, me and MR are on the same page with Reggie.
Time to re-evaluate the “gut”
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
His guy means the guy for his team. This is his team now. With the playoffs and scheduling and his own hire, he is going to find the guy he can work with and win with for the next ten years. Does any one really think Reggie isn’t putting a ton of weight into this decision? More he knows what works. We have to trust this process.
When gruden was hired all of us were like who is he…now he is an icon. Reggie is looking for anew, better, gruden.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
I once had trouble getting to a shock underneath my Ford Explorer. Who did I call? You guessed it. Reggie was there in 10 minutes. In his business suit, he dropped to the ground, rolled under my explorer, and just tinkered away at that thing until he popped my shock right into place. Saved me $500. Reggie McKenzie.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
64.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Djohnnyg speaks for me.
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Ha. That’s too much pressure. I’d rather you speak for me actually.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Two, you watched that press conference and Reggie made you feel warm & fuzzy? Like “Oh yeah that’s my guy” ?
My guy for Gm or HC ?
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Twocents Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Mista, what can I say, you see someone that you think knows what they are doing and you go with him. Who is your man?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
MR, where is your spooning partner KK?
Making you some dinner and then dim the lights ?
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Are you jealous that we get romantic and take it slow, while Brien just crawls through your window drunk at 3am and rapes you?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
59.Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
twocents, you don’t even know McKenzie. He was an obscure front office employee in Green Bay just two weeks ago. Would you quit it with the engaging write ups on him?
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I recall you being totally behind Reggie when he was hired becuz of Ron Wolf’s endorsement.
Were u hijacked?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Because he fired the coach and let the coaching staff go on there way. Why would you do that Not knowing who YOUR guy is. What if your guy isnt just sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring. Just seems like a bad idea.
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I get that Don, but why isn’t “The guy” here yet? I guess the point that I was trying to make is maybe Reggie had a few guys in mind and is actually having some quality interviews with potential candidates.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
64.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Djohnnyg speaks for me.
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Ha. That’s too much pressure. I’d rather you speak for me actually
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I have to run out real quick. So take over. I’ll be back.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
twocents, your feigning first hand knowledge of Reggie is hilarious.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RFL
I hope so.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Way to come out of the closet on a chilly rainy Monday night MR.
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
MR, where is your spooning partner KK?
Making you some dinner and then dim the lights ?
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Are you jealous that we get romantic and take it slow
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Well I guess I am the only one that believes McKenzie was the right choice. The rest of you will have to admit that you were wrong and nobody ever admits that they were wrong.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
johnny, I was totally behind Reggie until it started to look as if Reggie was nothing more than Mark’s puppet. You know, one’s opinion can change in light of events. It’s not unheard of. Let’s say I buy a car, and it runs good. I say the car’s awesome. Then the car breaks down, for no reason. Then I say it sucks. I’m really flip flopper, aren’t I?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
I would rather be patient and sure than go thru another lane kiffin or norvelle or cable or mike white or bill Callahan.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
MB, nobody cares what you think.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Two cents I’m with you. Book it
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
All of the usual Davis loyalists are now in McKenzie’s corner. That’s telling.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
A lot of people admitted to being wrong about R Seymour after I brought it to their attention he is a overrated overpaid chump.
Lots!
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Twocents Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Well I guess I am the only one that believes McKenzie was the right choice. The rest of you will have to admit that you were wrong and nobody ever admits that they were wrong
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Why does everyone assume that when McKenzie said “I want to bring in my own guy” that he already had someone in mind for the HC job?
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Yeah. Who would draw that conclusion? Of course, what he could have meant by “one guy” is searching the entire league for retreads
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Sully, I skip your comments, don’t read mine.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Maybe not but you just admitted you and KK hump each other in the dumper.
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
MB, nobody cares what you think.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Of the 3rd degree.
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I’m really flip flopper, aren’t I?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Sully, it just shows that you know nothing about cars, just like you nothing about anything else.
MistaBrown, you are indeed one of the dumbest commenters on this blog.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
“I skip your comments….and respond to them.” That makes sense.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
twocents, even according to that logic, if the car’s broken down, I’m still correct in saying it sucks, even if I couldn’t predict it beforehand. It’s obvious now Reggie’s being ordered around by Mark Davis when it comes to this coaching search. So I’m right in calling it. Doesn’t matter if I wasn’t aware of it beforehand. I’d rather face facts than be in denial.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I’m the dumbest “commenter” Based on what?
You are sucking on Reggie’s crank based on what?
And what is a “commenter” ?
lol
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Twocents Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
MistaBrown, you are indeed one of the dumbest commenters on this blog.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
MB, are you and Brien prison gay, or is there a real spark?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
80.Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
johnny, I was totally behind Reggie until it started to look as if Reggie was nothing more than Mark’s puppet. You know, one’s opinion can change in light of events. It’s not unheard of. Let’s say I buy a car, and it runs good. I say the car’s awesome. Then the car breaks down, for no reason. Then I say it sucks. I’m really flip flopper, aren’t I?
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I get that. I too am a bit disconcerted by the retread interviews.
Right now i’m in wait and see mode.
I don’t think he’s Marks puppet though.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Looks like the Patriots still know how to get a true “homefield advantage”. Did anyone else read this?
http://deadspin.com/5878655/billy-cundiff-rushed-his-kick-because-of-an-error-on-the-gillette-stadium-scoreboard
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
MR, after you admitted to banging KK in the a$$ your not about to get me to admit to anything I sure as hell don’t do.
Freak show!
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
MB, are you and Brien prison gay, or is there a real spark?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
For some reason I hope Moss is Reggies guy, Not sure what it is, Its just a gut feeling I have about him.
I did watch a clip on youtube of Marty Morhinwig, I can see where he would do good in an interview. He seems like a smart guy and he knows his schit, But can he lead men? Thats the question I have about Marty.
Moss probably didn’t interview as good as Marty for a couple reasons, He hasn’t had alot of interviews for HC, so he probably didn’t come off being as well prepared as Marty. Moss could of figured he was Reggies guy and wasn’t expecting the hard questions.
I prefer Moss but if it was between Dennis Allen and Marty, my votes for Marty.
I couldn’t find any clips of Dennis Allen, so I couldn’t do a gut check on him, not sure what to think about having a Donkey DC for headcoach.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Sully, if your knowledge can’t predict an outcome then it is useless knowledge. You look at a car and decide that it is a good purchase and then it breaks down. Who’s fault is that?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
MB, you and Brien are too close to be anything but gay.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
twocents, how is it my fault that Reggie is a Mark Davis puppet? Your logic is flawed.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Probably because Moss has never been a HC and Reggie has never been a GM.
That always fills me up with confidence!
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Realtruraider Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
For some reason I hope Moss is Reggies guy, Not sure what it is, Its just a gut feeling I have about him.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
MB, any guy your age who isn’t married, doesn’t have a girlfriend, and spends as much time as you do all buddied up with another guy? You’re gay.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
MR on he and KK.
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Are you jealous that we get romantic and take it slow
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Don feels that Reggie should have put a little more thought before outright canning Hue from the get go.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
LOL
You don’t know my age. You dont know my status. Very solid comment…haha
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
MB, any guy your age who isn’t married, doesn’t have a girlfriend, and spends as much time as you do all buddied up with another guy? You’re gay.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
MB, stop pretending you’re not gay. Anyone your age with no wife or girlfriend, spending as much time as you do buddying up with another guy? You can hide behind this sports thing all you want to.
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Mista
You watching this Warrior game?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Sully, it is your opinion that McKenzie is a Mark Davis puppet, but what is your opinion worth if you can’t even make a decent choice on a car?
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
MB, do you expect anyone here to believe you’re married or have a girlfriend? Come on.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
twocents, you’re grasping at straws with this stupid analogy. Let’s move on.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Sully,
Why are you making Reggie change his mind so much?
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Dogg,
Not yet I got the DV-R rolling.
shhhhhhh
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
The internet was but a baby when Gruden was hired. Thus the lack of knowledge.
Today, different story.
None of the guys we’re interviewing have the experience that Gruden had (3 years OC in Philly) or the success.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Sully, how so? You admit that you know nothing.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Logging off don’t want a GSW update.
Later smellas!
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Oh ok
This year’s squad looks scrappy, still need an effective big man as usual. I like the focus on defense…
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
I wouldn’t do you like that
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Dogg,
Not yet I got the DV-R rolling.
shhhhhhh
……….
Warriors 63, Memphis 43, 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Closet case.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
WARRIORS ARE BEATING MEMPHIS 63 TO 43, LATE IN THE 3RD QUARTER….
But I won’t tell anybody else, though.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
MistaBrown logs off because, like Sully, he is lacking in any ability to defend his worthless opinion.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
lol
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
He’s logging off because I’m talking about his thing with Brien.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
What a dumbass. Announces to a blog full of people who hate him that he’s recording the game and doesn’t want an update.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Catching-up-with-Dennis-Allen/860882eb-9ec9-4e5f-ad34-9faa843fb98f
If it doesn’t put some terrible bronco type virus on ur computer, here is a Dennis Allen interview from the buncoo website.
Dude looks young.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
59.Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
twocents, you don’t even know McKenzie. He was an obscure front office employee in Green Bay just two weeks ago. Would you quit it with the engaging write ups on him?
—
I recall you being totally behind Reggie when he was hired becuz of Ron Wolf’s endorsement.
Were u hijacked?
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He was Huejacked
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Yes, I am down with McKenzie, I believe the man knows something about football. And what is your opinion?
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Please Vote No to the Raiders moving to LA
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
On the Dennis Allen video–notice he kept talking about the “culture of the defense”.
I wonder if his emphasis on that is what has made Reggie interested in him.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Sully , is a moron…he blasts Twocents, for talking good about Reggie, based on his gut feeling.Then turns around bashing Reggie for being a M.Davis puppet, when Sully obviously has no proof, go to bed jr, let the men talk….
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
I bet Al Davis left Mark a to do list right before he died! And getting rid of the coach was one of them. Lol!!!
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
I like some of the stuff that he said as far as creating a culture but that dude is young. What kind of staff would he put together?
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
As we hire a coach…we are taking tha first step in hiring a whole staff. We need some experience.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Good work djon
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
128.luvmarvhub Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
On the Dennis Allen video–notice he kept talking about the “culture of the defense”.
I wonder if his emphasis on that is what has made Reggie interested in him.
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BTW thanks Raider Guy for the link.
Marv, I like the ‘culture’ reference as well, but i’m not thrilled with the “bend don’t break defense that gives up tons of yards but relies on sacks and turnovers”.
I think it’s the whole “gives up alot of yards” thing.
I don’t think you can ever “rely” on turnovers as a defensive strategy.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I have stated my opinion in no uncertain terms.
Those that disagree are entitled to their opinions.
Make a good case and I can be persuaded.
But the critics make no case, they just throw up straw man arguments, call names and expose themselves as the know nothings that they truly are.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Al’s to-do list that Mark inherited:
“Look at whaat thaa best teams in thaa league are doing, Maaark. And do tha exact oppaaasite.”
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Djoh,
Yeah what if you need a stop on d to get a chance to win the game. I dont think bend is what you want.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Twocents….Sully is just a hater…we finally get a GM, and he still has his Davis meddling rants… Now that Al is dead he just grabs for straws and wears his tin foil hat…he is a troll….or a very delusional woman.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I think turnovers are more the natural result of being a hard hitting, stout defense and having guys on the field who can make plays.
I can hear the introductory presser now.
“Oh yeah. We’re gonna give up a ton of yards, and yes…we’ll bend a lot but our plan is to force turnovers when they get in the redzone or hope we can get a sack. But don’t think we’ll be able to stop the run folks. That’s really not the plan.”
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Well, what am I supposed to think when Winston Moss was all set to go, then suddenly his name just evaporates and we’re on this fruitless search for retreads? And even the retreads are rejecting us! I don’t think Mark’s as much of a meddler as his dad. Probably won’t mess with actual field football operations. But with this coaching search, I’m not buying for one second that the same GM who came right in wanting Winston Moss just suddenly changed his mind. They worked together in GB for 6 years. They’re fam. We know who changed their mind.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
137.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Djoh,
Yeah what if you need a stop on d to get a chance to win the game. I dont think bend is what you want.
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I think the bend not break thing is what analysts say when they know you’re a bad defense but they’re trying to say something nice about you.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
My co-worker was right. Said right off the bat that Mark only hired McKenzie so that he could have a scapegoat for canning Hue Jackson, and that McKenzie’s race made it all the better. I gave him the Raiders’ company line, that Hue was fired because he’d just clash with McKenzie. He laughed. Now I know why. I came off as a typical Raider homer, and for that moment I was. Every time I drink your guys’ kool aid, I get burned. That’s why I’m usually so cynical about this team.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
This decision is an important one. The fact that he is thinking of his team instead of his friendships as indicated by his search is great for us.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Sully, I get what you’re saying but no retreads have rejected us… yet.
It’s just the hapless underlings that are rejecting us so far.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
the media implied Winston Moss was a lock…Reggie at his PC disputed that…your logic has many holes…u blast twocents for liking Reggie with out proof of his qualifications…But then you go and blast Reggie and Mark on pure speculation on your part…wise up man
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Twocents Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
MistaBrown logs off because, like Sully, he is lacking in any ability to defend his worthless opinion.
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hahaha, Jamista gets rolled again. And just so all of you know, when Jamista says he is logging off, it’s not a computer term…..
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
The only one who recected us was McCoy…you make sh*t up , to get a point across…
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
133.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Good work djon
—
It was a pleasure speaking for you pal.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Sullivan, a little kool aid every now and then is important for fans. Why not have a simpatico the time of one of the biggest transitions in our teams history? Fear of being disappointed? Can’t get more disappointing than it has been so hope for the best.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Fk it, just get Tom O’Brien. Discipline and marching orders.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
# 149
THIS….i was no Al lover…and to be honest the jury is still out with Reggie…but im willing to give him a chance, and see where he can take us.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Raider For Life
At this high level, it’s considered dumb business to fire someone without having a better replacement ready.
And yes, this often entails some behind-the-scenes work. That McKenzie didn’t do this is a red flag for him and/or Davis.
^^^^^^^^
Exactly!! That is my problem with this whole process. Did Reggie even have a REAL short list of coaches at the ready? Or was he full of it?
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
I think by the end of this we will have discovered that Reggie made a good choice for our new HC.
If he doesn’t…we can all chip in with obscure stats and comparisons to talk ourselves into it.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Warriors are going to choke! hahaha
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Parcells had that approach get the job hire your guy the next day. How did that work out…except when they would beat us…
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Based on the shotgun approach of his interviews, it seems like he was nudged into firing Hue, and during his presser gave us no logical explanation for doing it, other than the silly “my guy” argument, while not knowing who his guy was, or whether he’s out there.
Just odd.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Dolphins won their division first season under Parcells.
Guess that’s something. Then Belichick got Brady back…
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Maybe it is as important to know who your guy isn’t as who your guy is
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Of course, Dolphins were coming off 1-15, us one D stop from the playoffs,
but compare away.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Good knowledge. I was talking about when he moved into the gm role
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:02 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Based on the shotgun approach of his interviews, it seems like he was nudged into firing Hue, and during his presser gave us no logical explanation for doing it, other than the silly “my guy” argument, while not knowing who his guy was, or whether he’s out there.
Just odd.
^^^^^^^
Very odd. When Davis was asked who and why they fired Hue, and Mark answers a question with a question…”why we fired Hue”….then Mark points to Reggie and says “ask the man who made that decision”….putting Reggie on the spot.
Mark forced Reggie to fire Hue….period!
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Mark forced Reggie to fire Hue….period!
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Good!!!!
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Guy
winning is winning, I don’t care if the HC has an “I’m the best ever” cocky attitude, in fact, I want that from a coach. Being overly passionate or emotional and angry after juuuuuust missing the playoffs isn’t the end-all offense it was made out to be.
Guy was crushed by what happened and by not having a say in his staff to fix it. Look at Harbaugh today. Pride, drive, ego, who cares.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Guess I’ve seen too many Art Shells, Turners, and Mike Whites.
I even liked Callahan’s passionate “dumbest team in America.”
He knew what was wrong and wanted a change.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
To be honest, i would have liked to give Hue one more year under Reggie, and Reg could have focused on retooling the D…But that being said.Hue tanked a 7-4 record down to 8-8, we broke records for penalties under his watch,he wanted more power in the org. and he broke the bank for Palmer..This…”Mark forced Reggie sh*t” is kinda lame
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Do you think Reggie may know what’s wrong and wants to fix it. What if we have a gm that has some power and sees things as clearly as you me and Callahan have seen them for years?
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Why is it Hue tanked the record, and not the 30th-ranked D that gave up 32 points per game down the stretch?
What’s an OC supposed to do about that? Score 33 every game?
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Players being pampered by Al Davis for years was the problem….Reggie just might have to gut the whole org. from coaching all the way down to the players, to get some real change.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Last yr if we scored 33 they would have scored 35
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Marauder I agree completely
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Hue was not the OC, he was the HC…as we all know, he ultimately takes on the responsibilty of the whole team
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The Saints and Pats…made playoffs with good records and 30th ranked D’s….
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
And a middle 1st rounder (Fabian Washington/Nap Harris/PBuch) and future middle second (Mike Mitchell) isn’t exactly “breaking the bank” when you get in return the best QB play since Gannon.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
no Marader
as we all know, a Raiders HC under Al Davis NEVER takes on the entire responsibility. That’s what he WANTED, not what he had.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
to be fair…. i like Palmer…i dont hate the trade personally…i was looking at it from a stand point of Reggie, coming in with no draft…
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
He had it from the Texans game…
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Saints D ranked 13th in points allowed.
Patriots D ranked 16th.
Raiders D ranked 30th.
Terrible post, Marader.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
iwas going off total d ranks…but point taken..
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
lol Marader.
you know so little. The heck can you do 5 weeks into an NFL season? Rummage through other team cuts? Tamper with coaches under contract? Re-invent the D philosophy on the run?
terrible.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
it was a tough situation no doubt…if read above i stated i would have prefered to keep Hue and retool the D….
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm
oh ok, I’ll lighten up.
Mackenzie is coming in with this draft:
1st – Palmer
2nd – Barksdale
3rd – Taiwan Jones
4th – Jason Campbell’s 2 seasons
5th – has it
6th – has it
7th – Aaron Curry
plus a 3rd/4th for Nnamdi, and 5th/6th for Gallery. That’s kinda good.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO! Keep the RAIDERS in OAKLAND!
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Smee Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
If Reggie fired Hue because he wanted to bring in his own guy, who is that guy of his he wants to bring in?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A point I have considered myself. Maybe our new HC is the prize found in that box of Cracker Jacks on Reggie’s desk.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm
agreed.
There was no downside to keeping Hue for one season, and letting him pick out his D-coordinator.
If it works and you win, great. (high probability)
If it doesn’t work out, fire him, start your coaching search.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 pm
NFL Defense Stats regular season from NFL.com:
1. Steelers
2. Texans
3. Ravens
32. Greenbay
31. New England
27. NY (giants)
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
well i hope he really does have a good eye for talent…like some have said…because we will be needing some late round gems…one thing i will credit Davis for…is he might have whiffed on 1st 2nd round picks , but he could hit homeruns late in the draft
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
AL Davis was a skank who kept the Raiders in the cellar for the past 29 seasons (except for the Gruden anomaly) since we last the won the SuperBowl in 1983.
Thank God he is and also thank God that AL’s namesake, Hue the Pimpin Magnificient, is fired.
Anything has to be better.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
In Al D. Davis’ world
the team with the most yards wins the game.
Points are of no consequence.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
If Reggie told Pimpin, “hey pimpin, what you need to do to remain in your HC position is allow me to paddle your fat naked fanny, live, on national television while you bark like a dog”, I am sure Hue would have done so.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
post 37 thats just a little bit racist huh
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
alex7 #188,
don’t think I can’t discriminate and interpret defensive stats, Alex. I was merely clarifying defensively ranking as put forth by marader508.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
defensive *** ranking
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
You know why good teams often give up plenty of yards?
Backups, prevent D, 4th quarter, 20 point lead
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Marader
I’ve always felt we hit in the later rounds of the draft because that’s when Al would allow his scouts to pick the players
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Alex7, #193
true enough
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
193 garbage time
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Pittsburg and SF gave up fewest overall pts and few pts per game.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 pm
im still baffled how we could be up 14 -20 points in the 4th so many times and still lose that many games its a combination of offense 30% and defense 70% at fault ,we may have been up but one more field goal or another first down and they dont comeback
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
I said here years ago us offering LeBeau 8 million a year would still be a bargain.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
dont even mention the 35 point blowouts its clear why we lost those games ,coaching first players second .hue wasnt very good at making adjustments was he
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO to the Raiders moving to LA!
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
yeah
Hue couldn’t figure out how to make Chuck B. become a competent D-Coordinator. That’s quite the adjustment to ask of anyone.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
194 probably spot on
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
imaquaman, #198,
welcome to “queer world” man. blame it on “boyd” and “shepard.”
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
defense cordinator should set the game plan for defense ,but at half time the head coach should make adjustments .ultimately its his azz and he calls the shots ,no adjustments means hes good with it
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:56 pm
204 does that mean your queer ?
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
imaquaman #206,
no….
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
ididnt need to know that if thats what you are saying .if not misunderstanding
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
sorry imaquaman
Sean Payton doesn’t sit around at halftime telling Gregg Williams what blitzes and coverages to call on certain 2nd half down and distances.
That’s just silly. Head coaches know one half of the game, O or D. Rarely both (Belichick might be the only one).
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Hue: “Hey Chuck, we need to change our D up.”
Chuck: “Well, they beat us in man coverage, they beat us in zone, they beat us when I blitz, they beat us when I don’t blitz, they beat us with runs, they beat us with passes, and they beat us through penalties. Got any ideas?”
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:03 pm
ok sorry
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
im talking like
hue :chucky if you send a linebacker out to cover deep one more time im gonna call cable and have him kick your azz like your his beetch ,you feelin me
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
what am i thinking he didnt even know when to go for two ,game management plus make adjustments …what was i thinking
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:11 pm
yep, he made some rookie mistakes.
Happens. John Harbaugh should have called time out and given his kicker time to settle down.
Happens. Learn as you grow in your career.
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
good night all “win lose or tie”
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:13 pm
night
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Imaquaman, sorry,
It’s just a word that popped up. I just picture our “D”, and those on its roster – losers, rejects, submissive, non-playmakers, something the bag lady scrounged in the local dumpster; includes Chuckie too.
And Hue the Pimpin Magnificient didn’t have the courage to stand up to AL, (nor the smarts to manipulate him)regarding the D, a dissapated old fart, delusional, who showed up half-dead in public with oozing facial sores.
I see members of the “D” as lady-boys, gay, mouth kissing with Jerry Sandusky, his pants down around his ankles, and it makes me sick.
Just think about the the ebony sub-moron McClain, who Pimpin proclaimed as Captain of the “D”. He gains a $25M contract and is arrested for gunplay on his x-high school friend when he was supposed to attending his grandfather’s funeral.
If you wonder why we lost those leads consider the sub-moron described above: complete lack of intelligence and football savvy, beady little animal eyes, sluffed off chiny and a nasty goatee.
Welcome to gay world: Oakland’s “D”; the sub-moron, boyd, shepard, worthless cb’s and defensive line, and most of all a DC, washed up and worthless in and of himself.
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:15 pm
yea i think cundiff makes that kick when its 4th and 6 at that time and field pos.his confidence was crushed by the time he took the field
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
#
# marader508 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The Saints and Pats…made playoffs with good records and 30th ranked D’s….
^^^^^^^^
Uhh…those teams have top 3 QB’s in Brady and Brees….maybe….just maybe…while the Raiders had JC for half of the season and had to get Carson off of the couch mid season…plus the Raiders best offensive weapons like DMC and Ford were hurt.
You lose…
# DKnight007 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:09 pm
# Albert Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
“I had a great experience, or sentence,” Pagano said at the time regarding a prior stint with the Raiders. “Well, I can’t say sentence, a two-year sentence in Oakland. And congratulations to Hue Jackson, it’s well deserved. And he will earn every cent that they pay him. It won’t be much, but he will earn every nickel. But I had a great experience out there. And two years was plenty.”
It’s a pretty safe bet that Pagano won’t be added to the interview list with the Raiders.
———–
Sad but true.
^^^^^^^^^
Proof that old man Al and Mark Davis are cheap when it comes to hiring a good to great head coach.
# DKnight007 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
# RaiderDuck Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
lol Duck
good job not posting the NAMES of those guys interviewed.
You probably wouldn’t be able to contain your laughter as you typed.
Or mention how no one else is interviewing most of them.
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Todd Bowles: Interviewed for multiple HC jobs, and went 2-1 as an interim head coach.
Marty Morhninweg: Former HC who’s run one of the NFL’s top offenses for half a decade.
Dennis Allen: Up-and-coming defensive coordinator whose unit showed substantial improvement with very little personnel turnover.
Winston Moss: Assistant head coach for one of the NFL’s most successful teams for several years running.
Again, these are all good candidates. But go ahead and continue to hate on anyone not named Hue Jackson or Jon Gruden. Yawn.
Pete Carmichael: OC for another of the NFL’s top offenses.
^^^^^^^^
It’s funny none of these alleged “hot” candidates got a sniff from other teams except Bowles in Miami and that was too satisfy Rooney Rule.
# DKnight007 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Told you all there was slim pickens out there regarding actual REAL candidates to replace Hue, not named Cowher, Fisher or Gruden.
The bad retreads list, Morning, Tice and Capers makes me want to puke and the psuedo coordinators like Carmichael, Bowles and Allen or terrible REACHES!!
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
wow you just threw the D under the bus lol
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm
agreed.
There was no downside to keeping Hue for one season, and letting him pick out his D-coordinator.
If it works and you win, great. (high probability)
If it doesn’t work out, fire him, start your coaching search.
^^^^^^^^
Thats exactly the way it should have worked out, but nope…
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 pm
219 every name brought up to interview has been a nightmare except moss and bowles and maybe off,def cordinators from denver they impressed me with what the did given what they had to work with
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Imaquaman, #220
As you can imagine it’s been building for years, layer upon layer of crap and corruption. AL was a has-been 20 yrs ago. He stole his ownership interest in the team from the majority owners, forged documents and became the majority owner with full control over the partnership.
AL’s rendition of the D was ridiculous and idiot. The team, both O and D, needs to be blown up.
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
M Tice is a brick head.
Problem is our GM might be as well…
Might be? Have you seen the dude?
Real Talk, ol boy is a Purple Soda, A Piece of Fried Chicken, and a oz of Dank short of a Method Pick-A-Nig ger.
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Hagar the Horrible, #222 Says:
“I doubt if McFadden will be able to run the plays he prefers as Hue let him do. So, we’ll have a drop off in Darren’s overall performance.”
1. McGlassden, with his serial foot injuries, should be traded while he still has value, before he trips in the offseason, compound fractures his leg, and he is lost permanently. How can “Darren’s Performance” drop off anymore than it already is considering the games he has missed?
2. The O line is coming along: replacement of Satele and Barnes will cure any defect quite handily.
3. AL Davis was worthless as the running, oozing sores present on his face in press conferences. Thank God he is dead and not coming back
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO to the Oakland Raiders moving to LA on the link above
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 pm
The only players for sure worth keeping on this roster are
Shaughnessy
Houston
Veldheer
Wiz Jr
Barksdale
McFadden
Reece
Moore
Ford
Possibly depth
DHB
Boss
Campbell
Bush
Satelele
Barns T and JTE
Dez Bryant
McClain
Curry
Mitchell
Branch
By depth I mean Second String or Third.
January 24th, 2012 at 12:10 am
cfrylopez, #227:
Lopez, Mark wants a new stadium “yesterday”; and I want a new Lear Jet today. Unfortunately, Mark demonstrated in that press conference an conscionable lack of business acumen and has probably never heard of the second rule of acqusition, namely:
“Value seeks its own level.”
1) The Raiders have lost 20 of their last 29 seasons since they last won the Superbowl in 1983, in LA.
Thank God AL is dead.
2) According to Forbes Magazine Raiders are 31st in overall value and revenue earning ability of all teams in the NFL.
3) This Raiders haven’t come close to selling out their home games in any single season recently, except for this year when they purchased back their own tickets.
4) Therefore, the Raiders lack leverage, in the form of value and hard cash, to go anywhere, except stay in their current facility. (Would you build a $1.5B dollar stadium for them based on the past 29 season losing history; extremely doubtful.)
5) The Raiders have to bring several championships and a SuperBowl, including a real movement toward establishment of a dynasty. (anything ekse is a waste of time discussing.)
6) Brand new $1.6B stadiums don’t grow on trees and are not subject to losers.
7) Mark has made his 1st public mistake asking for a stadium, and has embarrassed himself and the club.
9) I hope you now have the wisdom to understand your postings are ridiculous.
January 24th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Lopez,
BTW, the first rule of acquisition reads:
“The definition of ‘business’ is making profit.”
January 24th, 2012 at 12:29 am
al d. davis Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Imaquaman, sorry,
It’s just a word that popped up. I just picture our “D”, and those on its roster – losers, rejects, submissive, non-playmakers, something the bag lady scrounged in the local dumpster; includes Chuckie too.
And Hue the Pimpin Magnificient didn’t have the courage to stand up to AL, (nor the smarts to manipulate him)regarding the D, a dissapated old fart, delusional, who showed up half-dead in public with oozing facial sores.
I see members of the “D” as lady-boys, gay, mouth kissing with Jerry Sandusky, his pants down around his ankles, and it makes me sick.
Just think about the the ebony sub-moron McClain, who Pimpin proclaimed as Captain of the “D”. He gains a $25M contract and is arrested for gunplay on his x-high school friend when he was supposed to attending his grandfather’s funeral.
If you wonder why we lost those leads consider the sub-moron described above: complete lack of intelligence and football savvy, beady little animal eyes, sluffed off chiny and a nasty goatee.
Welcome to gay world: Oakland’s “D”; the sub-moron, boyd, shepard, worthless cb’s and defensive line, and most of all a DC, washed up and worthless in and of himself.
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LMAO! I referred to our defense as running the “bendover” style of D.
January 24th, 2012 at 12:32 am
alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Hue: “Hey Chuck, we need to change our D up.”
Chuck: “Well, they beat us in man coverage, they beat us in zone, they beat us when I blitz, they beat us when I don’t blitz, they beat us with runs, they beat us with passes, and they beat us through penalties. Got any ideas?”
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Pretty much sums our predicament right there
January 24th, 2012 at 12:43 am
alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
yeah
Hue couldn’t figure out how to make Chuck B. become a competent D-Coordinator. That’s quite the adjustment to ask of anyone.
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Pimp hand baby. Hue did not have the pimp hand.
January 24th, 2012 at 12:46 am
marader508 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
To be honest, i would have liked to give Hue one more year under Reggie, and Reg could have focused on retooling the D…
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Absofckinglutely! Period!
January 24th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Are we the last team to be putting our schitt together? Mia and Ind I suppose, but we don’t have to worry bout them. Well, least not Ind. Sooooo, where do we stand? 31st right now. Bring back Hue, give him some pimp hand and we be just fine.
Hue and Cable, Co-Head Coaches. They would be the pimp hand brothers and NOBODY fck with them. We would be some bad asses. Just pimp hand baby!
January 24th, 2012 at 12:53 am
imaquaman Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
im talking like
hue :chucky if you send a linebacker out to cover deep one more time im gonna call cable and have him kick your azz like your his beetch ,you feelin me
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Thats what I’m talkin about.
January 24th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Oakland Raider kick ass all-star coaching staff:
Gruden HC
Hue OC
Cable: roaving thug
Singletary DC
Romo DBs’
Greene just his presence will get it done
Cowher asst HC,OC,DC
January 24th, 2012 at 1:00 am
Ya’ll got to be kinder.
January 24th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Once the Raiders move back to Los Angeles, they become a top ten team in terms of $$$ value.
January 24th, 2012 at 1:45 am
I think Dennis Allen is going to be the HC. Him being interviewed a second time BUT AT the senior bowl is pretty indicative imo. Senior Bowl where he can scout alongside McKenzie, talk to other coaches to fill out his coaching staff, etc.
Kinda like how Al hired Gruden (was it?) where he just told him to do this and that as a way of ‘interviewing’ and seeing what he was like as a HC, and weeks went by and Gruden was just the HC eventually without an announcement made.
Also, Allen coached under Wade Phillips, so he would be knowledgeable of the 3-4 as well as 4-3.
I think Bowles could end up DC.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:33 am
Denver’s OC got a 2nd interview in Miami; Philbin got the HC gig.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:33 am
I actually think it is someone we have not heard of.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 am
2 points that I want to make:
1) Firing Hue the way he did was a mistake by Reggie. If we kept all our coaches from last year and picked up a good DC then we would be better off than we are now. Now we have to replace ALL coaches instead of just one. What are the odds that we can get a better HC than Hue and that all the other new assistants we get are better than the ones we have now? CHUCK B was the only one who should have gone.
2) Now the Reggie is going for “his guy” whoever that is, he better be a disciplinarian in a major way. Bringing in some technical geek with no people skills and no power would be a huge mistake. Look at who’s in the super bowl. 2 coaches that are demanding and pay attention to details. Both the Giants and Pats are run businesslike with a tough approach from above.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:50 am
Just a random question and hope to get some feedback.
What “players coaches” ever won the super bowl?
1. John Madden
who else?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:06 am
Mind you, after reading the link posted in FF
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/1/21/2723928/is-marty-mornhinweg-the-next-great-head-coach
I kinda ‘hope’ we sign Mornhinweg.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:44 am
The coaching page on the Raider web site probably went blank because they are about to announce the new coaches.
That the Tice interview is cancelled suggests that Reggie has made up his mind.
He did say that he would pick someone this week.
Mornhinweg was interviewed twice so I’m going to guess that he’s been picked and the later interviews this week are for other coaching positions.
Reggie is bound to be at the Senior bowl with just the scouts since he just fired all the coaches under Hue.
Just watch closely Steve to see if anyone joins him.
It’s a new era Raider Nation and it starts this week!
January 24th, 2012 at 3:49 am
Grr, I hate posting the same thoughts on more than one forum, but anyway…
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My memory is failing me, not sure if it was Gruden or someone else around that time, but Al did that a couple times with a coach he eventually hired, put them thru their paces during a senior-bowl/off-season, running things, as part of the interview process. You’re right too, Cable was also another instance of that.
As for second interviews, I think Mornhinweg and Bowles also got 2nd interviews.
Both were interviewed on the phone, and/or McKenzie flew to them, and then Mornhinweg came here for another interview just recently. I’m pretty sure it was reported that Bowles had a second interview, one of the media outlets (ibabuzz, espn, somewhere).
But that Allen is getting a second interview at the Senior Bowl is indicative of that Al thing.
Which reminds me, I was gonna say/ask….McKenzie has been very Al-like as a GM so far. I wonder if Al did indeed leave some kind of 10 commandments or model for his GM-heir to read over. Not so much telling him what to do, but giving pointers and advice.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:54 am
Good morning from the east coast Nation!
January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 am
certain ‘Raider-like’ ways to do things etc.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 am
Ahh, now I remember, it was Bill Callahan who Al did that too, as well as Cable, and probably some others too.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:37 am
Get Raheem Morris would be a good DC…..
January 24th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Article on PFT about jerseys switching to Nike and them going to drastically change every team’s design. Gawd no! The Raiders better be left the same.
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We write this item not to create problems for our friends at the NFL. But our loyalty lies primarily to the millions (and, amazingly, there really are millions) who rely on us for information about the sport they love.
If you love the NFL enough to plunk down some jack for a jersey, replica or official, you probably should wait three months.
In April 2012, Nike takes over the apparel contract from Reebok. And on the day that the switch was announced in October 2010, Nike Brand president Charlie Denson told Darren Rovell of CNBC that significant adjustments are coming.
“We plan on changing the NFL jersey dramatically just like we’ve done with the college programs, using new thinking and the greatest technology available,” Denson said. “The NFL program hasn’t had the same type of advancement in recent years.
The looming change possibly explains why players like Vikings running back Adrian Peterson are contemplating a number change. Recently on his Twitter page, Peterson mused about shifting to No. 21 or No. 23. (Maybe Peterson knows something that cornerback Asher Allen, who currently wears No. 21, doesn’t.)
In past years, a player-initiated number change would have been met with a requirement that the player refund Reebok for the existing inventory of jerseys with the number he wants to abandon. With the new Nike jerseys coming soon, there’s a chance that it will be open season for the shifting of numbers.
Regardless of whether we’ll see players changing numbers, the jerseys apparently will be changing. And it would make sense to refrain from breaking out your change purse until the new designs are unveiled.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:27 am
McKenzie has it all under control.
Some perspective people!!!!!
Hue is not being interviewed for a HC position, and is now down in the QB/assistant coach role.
We are interviewing guys who either are being interviewed by other teams, or have been HC’s before.
We are moving up the ladder in the HC hierarchy. Hue is at the bottom of this hierarchy.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:38 am
Hey thanks Just Fire Bay,…we all feel better now. Thanks.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 am
The hater was out last night beating dead horses.
You would think he would get tired of it after 5 years but its like he was born again with the death of Al.
The legion of “new” followers dont help. Already hating on Reggie and Mark is a shame. Proof that some people will never be happy unless they are directing the events.
Bottom line = They get a few years, not a few weeks to prove they can turn things around. And they inherit a 8 – 8 team that is lucky they did not finish under 500 (imo)
January 24th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Sullivan44 kept saying how great Ron Wolf was, so Mark Davis hired Reggie only because Wolf suggested he do so,…and yet Sullivan44 still cries…get a life MR.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Reggie is playing chess. I get the feeling he wants to hire certain people and he has to find a head coach who will be more then willing to work within that framework. He is building a foundation that will last even if the head coach changes more then he is hiring the “best” coach.
Give Mark credit for listening to Wolf and Madden and dont forget theres 31 other teams to compete with.
And last but not least pray we get one of these future hall of fame QB’s that seem to popping up like wildflowers. I have never seen a era with this many great QBs especially rookies coming in and playing like pro bowlers.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 am
They mostly look “great” because of the soft pass-friendly rules currently in place.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Ravens defensive coordinator Chuck Pagano will interview Tuesday for the head-coaching vacancy with the Colts.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:57 am
GG Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 am
They mostly look “great” because of the soft pass-friendly rules currently in place.
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Correct which is why we need a passer like Palmer to take advantage of those rules to stay competitive.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Does Mark have any kids?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:27 am
McKenzie has it all under control.
Some perspective people!!!!!
Hue is not being interviewed for a HC position, and is now down in the QB/assistant coach role.
We are interviewing guys who either are being interviewed by other teams, or have been HC’s before.
We are moving up the ladder in the HC hierarchy. Hue is at the bottom of this hierarchy.
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Exactly. Yet we get a lot of “fans” on this board who think Hue was Gruden 2.0 or something (he wasn’t even close)…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
All these people bringing up the main reason to keep Hue is that things are better than they were before.
I do agree with this loser-type logic.
Was Jay Schroeder a good QB because he replaced Mark Wilson?
Our run D was 32nd in the NFL and gave up 158 yards a game 3 years ago. The last two years, we gave up around 138 yards a game and are in the mid 20’s ranking wise. Is our run defense any good, or even improving?
Hue sucked, as evidenced by his resume before coming here (fired everywhere, never retained for years 2 in his OC stints) and where he is going now (crickets…).
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Now that Tice and other coaches are scratched off the list, and Reggie moves on to round 2 of interviews (2nd phase), we can put that Gruden talk to rest.
Here’s the list of guys already interviewed and our next Head Coach. Pick em:
Dennis Allen
Marty Mornhinweg
Todd Bowles
Pete Carmichael Jr.
Winston Moss
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Sullivan44 kept saying how great Ron Wolf was, so Mark Davis hired Reggie only because Wolf suggested he do so,…and yet Sullivan44 still cries…get a life MR.
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Sullivan44 cannot be happy unless he’s whining about something the Raiders are doing that he doesn’t like. When there’s nothing to whine about, he just starts making crap up.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
I do agree with this loser-type logic.
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*Do NOT agree*
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 am
JFB,
as head number crunching peon, I have discovered some contracts that are out of line. These are all on defense
Kamerion Wimbley
8/1/2011: Signed a five-year, $48 million contract. The deal contains $29 million guaranteed.
Michael Huff
7/31/2011: Signed a four-year, $32 million contract. The deal includes $16 million in the first year.
Tommy Kelly
2/28/2008: Signed seven-year, $50.5 million contract. The deal contains $18.125 million guaranteed, including a $13 million signing bonus and a $4.5 million in-season “signing” bonus in the second year. Another $2 million is available through incentives. 2011: $5.5 million, 2012: $6 million, 2013: $6.5 million, 2014: $7 million, 2015: Free Agent
Richard Seymour
2/16/2011: Signed a two-year, $30 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed — all in the form of Seymour’s first-year base salary. 2011: $15 million, 2012: $7.5 million (+ $7.5 million roster bonus), 2013: Free Agent
John Henderson
2/24/2011: Signed a two-year, $8 million contract. The deal contains $5.5 million guaranteed, including a $1.5 million signing bonus, all of Henderson’s first-year salary, and $1.5 million of his second-year salary. 2011: $2.5 million, 2012: $4 million, 2013: Free Agent
Aaron Curry
2012: $5,757,500, 2013: Free Agent
Stan Routt
8/4/2011: Signed a five-year, $54.5 million contract. The deal contains $20 million guaranteed, including both of Routt’s first two base salaries and a $5 million “signing” bonus in the second season. 2011: Under Contract, 2012: $5 million, 2013-2015: $11.5 million, 2016: Free Agent
Rolando McClain
7/29/2010: Signed a five-year, $40 million contract. The deal contains $23 million guaranteed. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $970,000, 2013: $1.535 million, 2014: $2.1 million, 2015: Free Agent
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Deja Vu Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Now that Tice and other coaches are scratched off the list, and Reggie moves on to round 2 of interviews (2nd phase), we can put that Gruden talk to rest.
Here’s the list of guys already interviewed and our next Head Coach. Pick em:
Dennis Allen
Marty Mornhinweg
Todd Bowles
Pete Carmichael Jr.
Winston Moss
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Corkran’s imprecations aside, I’m thinking Dennis Allen at this point.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 am
I agree GG and I think they are here to stay no matter what we think. Just like whatever crappy unis they dress in next year.
I am getting “sick and tired” of the NFL. Between all the commercial breaks and the huge prices and the penalties that refs use to control games and the new rules
January 24th, 2012 at 6:07 am
#260…agree Palmer is an upgrade over Campbell, for sure.
I’m rooting for Pryor, if he can get there, but until then Palmer is the first franchise QB we’ve had for a long time who can actually threaten downfield.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Dear GM,
We’re going to pay Seymour, Kelly & Henderson a combined $25 million in 2012?
We’re going to pay Wimbley, Curry & McClain a combined $16 million in 2012?
JFB…. might I suggest we just blow up the roster on Defense and start over?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:12 am
#269…
Yep. The NFL as an entertainment too has lost a lot in Goodell’s reign of terror. Sure, the numbers are up, the network dollars are up etc. But deep down every football fan dislikes the product on the field, the actual rules, the ad breaks, the stoppages, the BS officiating and NFL fixing, Goodell himself, the fines, the Nike uniforms, talk of London franchise, etc etc.
Why I was so keen on seeing the UFL grow, but unfortunately it bombed. That’s what the current NFL needs, like the old NFL needed…a rival league that is more traditional and thus forces the NFL to come back a little, ensure the game is more balanced.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Btw, the one piece of comfort we have is that the Niners lost and therefore Sullivan is gutted and angry.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Rockstar,
I’m keeping Rolando and TK, and will dangle the rest.
I appreciate your efforts early in the AM.
What happened to J Hill? I thought he said he wanted to come in at 2am?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:16 am
John Henderson at $4 million?
I will contact his agent.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:16 am
RaiderDuck,
I would lean torwards Allen as well, but Reggie is a hard person to figure out.
I hate it that this team is still so tight lipped on information shared with the fans, but i can see why they have to be during a hiring process.
Who knows, maybe Reggie had Moss in his back pocket and Allen came along and impressed the sh!t out of him.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Deja Vu Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:16 am
RaiderDuck,
I would lean torwards Allen as well, but Reggie is a hard person to figure out.
I hate it that this team is still so tight lipped on information shared with the fans, but i can see why they have to be during a hiring process.
Who knows, maybe Reggie had Moss in his back pocket and Allen came along and impressed the sh!t out of him.
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Could very well be; this is what can happen when you think “outside the box” a little and interview people who weren’t on your radar a short time ago.
How bad is Mike McCoy kicking himself right now? Schadenfreude can be so much fine sometimes…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 am
WHY NOT STAY AT RAIDER HEADQUARTERS AND WORK ON HEADCOACH & STAFF AND LET THE SCOUTS ATTEND SENIOR BOWL ? GOOD MORNING ALL..
January 24th, 2012 at 6:23 am
*so much FUN, that is…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:24 am
278.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 am
WHY NOT STAY AT RAIDER HEADQUARTERS AND WORK ON HEADCOACH & STAFF AND LET THE SCOUTS ATTEND SENIOR BOWL ? GOOD MORNING ALL..
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Hey DL, Reggie is a personnel guy, he SHOULD be at the senior bowl. Lets face it, our scouts haven’t proven to be the greatest in the world.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:24 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 am
WHY NOT STAY AT RAIDER HEADQUARTERS AND WORK ON HEADCOACH & STAFF AND LET THE SCOUTS ATTEND SENIOR BOWL ? GOOD MORNING ALL..
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Because Reggie wants to see some of the prospects for himself, and also because he can talk to other GMs and maybe get some trades informally hashed out (even if nothing can officially happen until mid-March). A lot of these post-season bowls are kind of the equivalent of the baseball Winter Meetings.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I just heard that a sh!t load of people put a LOT of money on the Gaints, back when they were 6-6, to win the super bowl at very high odds. Apparently it will be a huge hit to Vegas sportsbooks… might the fix be in come Feb. 5th?
Not sure what the odds were but I’m gonna guess they had to be at least 50-1.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:28 am
GOOD POINT BCZ.WAS JUST THINKING HE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON 1 THING AT A TIME.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:29 am
273.GG Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Btw, the one piece of comfort we have is that the Niners lost and therefore Sullivan is gutted and angry.
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That guy is a fvcking lunatic! Like maybe he should be locked up in a padded room.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Hey Rock and JFB… I know I wasn’t even interviewed for any positions in the org, but I feel I would be remiss if I didn’t point out a major flaw in your thinking. The salary cap will be flat for ‘12 and ‘13, with no significant increase until ‘14. If we indeed ‘blow it up’ and release the players you have suggested, we will be in a dire situation in terms of cap room, as the guaranteed portions of their contracts will account for significant room in the form of ‘dead money’ on our cap, I would politely recommend that we sit these gentlemen down and rework their salarys (reduce the ‘up front’ guarantees, and heavily backload them with incentives and bloated salarys in years we wont have them around). I believe, with the proper negotiating tactics, at least 50% of these players would restructure, to benefit the team, reducing the over cap # and damage to the team to more managable levels.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I just heard that a sh!t load of people put a LOT of money on the Gaints, back when they were 6-6, to win the super bowl at very high odds. Apparently it will be a huge hit to Vegas sportsbooks… might the fix be in come Feb. 5th?
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Not a chance. The FBI watches those sportsbooks like a hawk.
Besides, how would you even fix the Super Bowl? The important players all make too much money, and the refs aren’t decided until a few weeks before the game.
The biggest reason why it will never happen is because you can’t ever fix just one game, because you don’t know what will happen. You could pay the QB off, and the RB has the game of his life. The defense suddenly has 5 pick-6’s. The opposing QB does even worse. That’s why successful fixes are always for a string of games; that way, when a scrub has the odd awesome game or something else weird happens, it doesn’t really hurt. But fixing just one game is too risky.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Nwr8r Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
I believe AJ Smith took over in SD when the old GM was sick or passed away or something like that. He kept Marty Schottenheimer around for 3 or 4 years after that.
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Smith was preceded by John Butler , who lay the foundation for the Chargers with the deals that brought L.Tomlinson and Drew Brees (who really defined himself once he went to N.Orleans)
January 24th, 2012 at 6:33 am
282.Carl Weathers Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I just heard that a sh!t load of people put a LOT of money on the Gaints, back when they were 6-6, to win the super bowl at very high odds. Apparently it will be a huge hit to Vegas sportsbooks… might the fix be in come Feb. 5th?
Not sure what the odds were but I’m gonna guess they had to be at least 50-1.
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100-1 after they lost to the packers week 13. Could a ref or two be paid off?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/New-York-Giants-now-least-favorite-team-in-Las-Vegas-011712
January 24th, 2012 at 6:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 am
JFB,
as head number crunching peon, I have discovered some contracts that are out of line. These are all on defense
Kamerion Wimbley
8/1/2011: Signed a five-year, $48 million contract. The deal contains $29 million guaranteed.
Michael Huff
7/31/2011: Signed a four-year, $32 million contract. The deal includes $16 million in the first year.
Tommy Kelly
2/28/2008: Signed seven-year, $50.5 million contract. The deal contains $18.125 million guaranteed, including a $13 million signing bonus and a $4.5 million in-season “signing” bonus in the second year. Another $2 million is available through incentives. 2011: $5.5 million, 2012: $6 million, 2013: $6.5 million, 2014: $7 million, 2015: Free Agent
Richard Seymour
2/16/2011: Signed a two-year, $30 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed — all in the form of Seymour’s first-year base salary. 2011: $15 million, 2012: $7.5 million (+ $7.5 million roster bonus), 2013: Free Agent
John Henderson
2/24/2011: Signed a two-year, $8 million contract. The deal contains $5.5 million guaranteed, including a $1.5 million signing bonus, all of Henderson’s first-year salary, and $1.5 million of his second-year salary. 2011: $2.5 million, 2012: $4 million, 2013: Free Agent
Aaron Curry
2012: $5,757,500, 2013: Free Agent
Stan Routt
8/4/2011: Signed a five-year, $54.5 million contract. The deal contains $20 million guaranteed, including both of Routt’s first two base salaries and a $5 million “signing” bonus in the second season. 2011: Under Contract, 2012: $5 million, 2013-2015: $11.5 million, 2016: Free Agent
Rolando McClain
7/29/2010: Signed a five-year, $40 million contract. The deal contains $23 million guaranteed. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $970,000, 2013: $1.535 million, 2014: $2.1 million, 2015: Free Agent
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lot of that is backloaded, so what they can do is extend it so that its the same amount over a longer period of years, then accelerate the final amount in the option year – then another club can match it or the player is free to move on (right of first refusal).
i think the guys too hard to deal are Routt, Wimbley and Seymour. I agree that those numbers are ridiculous – just look at the Patriot numbers in comparison, and i know that franchise is clocking more revenue at the gate, b/c they have a relatively new stadium. built 2002
January 24th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:33 am
282.Carl Weathers Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I just heard that a sh!t load of people put a LOT of money on the Gaints, back when they were 6-6, to win the super bowl at very high odds. Apparently it will be a huge hit to Vegas sportsbooks… might the fix be in come Feb. 5th?
Not sure what the odds were but I’m gonna guess they had to be at least 50-1.
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100-1 after they lost to the packers week 13. Could a ref or two be paid off?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/New-York-Giants-now-least-favorite-team-in-Las-Vegas-011712
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Just read the article. Sounds like somebody put in a huge sucker bet on the Giants in week 13, and the book got greedy and didn’t lay it off. Sucks to be them, but that’s no evidence of a fix.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:37 am
RaiderDuck a single referee could decide the outcome of a game, no doubt about it. Look at that fuggin ref that called Ryan Grants fumble vs. the Giants 2 weeks ago, NO FUMBLE!
Remember that ref in the NBA just a few years ago??
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 am
DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE ORGANISED CRIME AND SPORTS GAMBLING..
January 24th, 2012 at 6:42 am
DIRT, some people can concentrate on more then one thing at a time,…not all are as limited as you.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:37 am
RaiderDuck a single referee could decide the outcome of a game, no doubt about it. Look at that fuggin ref that called Ryan Grants fumble vs. the Giants 2 weeks ago, NO FUMBLE!
Remember that ref in the NBA just a few years ago??
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I remember Tim Donaghy well. Two things to remember: he was eventually caught and even with all of his questionable calls, he wasn’t always successful in swaying the spread. Plus, his was a multi-year involvement.
Now contrast this to a Super Bowl ref, who’s not even picked until a few weeks before the game, and who is picked because of the LACK of controversial calls. Unless someone pulled real a Manchurian Candidate fix, it’s hard to see how that kind of ref could even get picked for this kind of game.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Re: the Giants fix…
If true, I guess this means “political forces” will ensure the Patriots win?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Also don’t forget the Steelers-Seahawks SB, clear official interference to swing that game.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:49 am
who are the 8 scouts with McKenzie?
guys he just recently hired or guys that Al hired that are still under contract ???
January 24th, 2012 at 6:51 am
THE LOSER WILL CLAIM THE FIX WAS IN.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:56 am
297.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:49 am
who are the 8 scouts with McKenzie?
guys he just recently hired or guys that Al hired that are still under contract ???
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I was wondering the same. New owner/GM same old secrecy.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:00 am
I’m keeping Rolando and TK, and will dangle the rest.
I appreciate your efforts early in the AM.
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JFB,
McClain is going into his 3rd year. He will have his 3rd different DC & 3rd different LB Coach
Marshall, Bresnahan and ???
Haluchak, Biekert and ???
Any thoughts on how to salvage this guy?
Can we sent BCZ as our “Eddie Anderson” ?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:10 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO to The OAKLAND Raiders moving to LA, in LA Times Poll! Vote NO
January 24th, 2012 at 7:22 am
GG
I was a big fan of the AFL. I got a toy set of small helmets with stickers and the AFL had much cooler stickers then the NFL.
Another league would be great
January 24th, 2012 at 7:23 am
We better bring back John Fassel. He’s done very well with the special teams.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Lopez, stop weirding out, the poll might well as say move-to-Mars,…theres no stadium in LA, none in the works, there are two entities in LA sueing each other on who gets to build one, so theres 5 years in court, maybe 10, probably closer to 15…then as soon as one gets the go ahead to build in 2028, all the so called investors you hear about will not be here, (fact is there are no investors, just fictional ones made up by stadium developers)…then around 2033 when some fool ponies up the bread to have one built, 5.5 billion by that year, the environmental whackos will squat on the site for years….so, enough with that lame poll.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:25 am
I feel I would be remiss if I didn’t point out a major flaw in your thinking. The salary cap will be flat for ‘12 and ‘13, with no significant increase until ‘14. If we indeed ‘blow it up’ and release the players you have suggested, we will be in a dire situation in terms of cap room, as the guaranteed portions of their contracts will account for significant room in the form of ‘dead money’ on our cap, I would politely recommend that we sit these gentlemen down and rework their salarys (reduce the ‘up front’ guarantees, and heavily backload them with incentives and bloated salarys in years we wont have them around). I believe, with the proper negotiating tactics, at least 50% of these players would restructure, to benefit the team, reducing the over cap # and damage to the team to more managable levels.
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BCZ,
Sam agrees with you. The Raiders were 29th in total defense with these overpaid clowns.
(Giants were 27th. Pats were 31st)
Allowed 27 ppg – 4th worst in the league
Raiders had the 27th ranked pass defense. avg 251 pass yards per game. allowed 31 TD’s – 2nd worst in the league.
Raiders had the 27th ranked run defense. avg 136 run yards per game. allowed 15 TD’s – 7th worst in the league.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:27 am
We better bring back John Fassel. He’s done very well with the special teams.
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JFB,
i’m not a personnel guy – but I agree. retain Bones!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:29 am
#302…
The ironic thing Plunketthead is that the AFL is the one that razzamattazz’d the onfield/off-field product, introduced exciting aerial football, away from the three yards and the cloud of dust, etc. Where the NFL is now is due to the AFL. But yeah, the AFL was effing great, and what it influenced and changed was great.
Just now, the way the game is headed, it does need to be balanced back up a bit. Changing the contact rule from 5 yards to 10 yards would help a lot.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Or maybe fck-knuckle Goodell could be ousted and the new commish bring back the 70’s-80’s rules.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I do agree with this loser-type logic.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:40 am
BCZ,
Sam agrees with you. The Raiders were 29th in total defense with these overpaid clowns.
(Giants were 27th. Pats were 31st)
Allowed 27 ppg – 4th worst in the league
Raiders had the 27th ranked pass defense. avg 251 pass yards per game. allowed 31 TD’s – 2nd worst in the league.
Raiders had the 27th ranked run defense. avg 136 run yards per game. allowed 15 TD’s – 7th worst in the league.
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Unfortunately the previous personnel guy put us in a very tricky prediciment with regards to the monetary function of the team, unfortunately we will have to let some of these contracts run their course, as we prepare for the future of the organization. There is no one year quick fix.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Would anybody be upset if Al Saunders was replaced by Jim Fassel or Brian Billick as OC?
what about Jim Caldwell or Bob Wylie?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:41 am
What a fall down a greased slide. Hue Jackson interviewing to be Arizona QB Coach.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I wouldn’t want Bob Wylie to be our OC, nor would I think he would accept it. He is an OLine coach. I am no more sold on Caldwell than you are on Pagano. You say Pagano is a product of have Lewis/Reed/Suggs… I say Caldwell is nothing more than the guy lucky enough to be assosciated with Peyton Manning. Look at his offence without Manning… garbage.
I don’t think Billick would jump back into coaching as an OC
January 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Deja Vu Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Now that Tice and other coaches are scratched off the list, and Reggie moves on to round 2 of interviews (2nd phase), we can put that Gruden talk to rest.
Here’s the list of guys already interviewed and our next Head Coach. Pick em:
Dennis Allen
Marty Mornhinweg
Todd Bowles
Pete Carmichael Jr.
Winston Moss
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Ok! So we need to start a list of who you think we will take. Maybe Q would be kind enough to keep track.
Im going with Moss.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:53 am
1.) Bowles
2.) Moss
3.) Allen
In order of preference.
Since it’s Senior Bowl week, though, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a dark horse candidate pop up in the next couple days.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:53 am
cfrylopez Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:10 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO to The OAKLAND Raiders moving to LA, in LA Times Poll! Vote NO
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Already voted yes. Enough spamming.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:54 am
The Raiders belong in Oakland. All we can do is hope they get the stadium issue resolved.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:03 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Lopez, stop weirding out, the poll might well as say move-to-Mars,…theres no stadium in LA, none in the works, there are two entities in LA sueing each other on who gets to build one, so theres 5 years in court, maybe 10, probably closer to 15…then as soon as one gets the go ahead to build in 2028, all the so called investors you hear about will not be here, (fact is there are no investors, just fictional ones made up by stadium developers)…then around 2033 when some fool ponies up the bread to have one built, 5.5 billion by that year, the environmental whackos will squat on the site for years….so, enough with that lame poll.
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I don’t know where you’re getting your information, but that’s dead wrong. There are two entities, but they’re not suing each other.
AEG wants to build Farmer’s Field in downtown LA, near the Staples Center.
Ed Roski’s group wants to build Los Angeles Stadium out in the City of Industry.
Both stadiums will probably end up getting built. Both groups are just waiting for a team to sign before they break ground.
Leading Candidates:
The Vikings (their Metrodome lease expired last month, and negotiations with MN are not going well)
The Rams (their lease runs for two more years)
The Jaguars (three consecutive years with an operating loss, and they can move)
The Chargers (will stay this year, but can now buy out of the lease any year they want)
The Raiders (lease runs for two more years, ties to the LA area)
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Unfortunately the previous personnel guy put us in a very tricky prediciment with regards to the monetary function of the team, unfortunately we will have to let some of these contracts run their course, as we prepare for the future of the organization. There is no one year quick fix.
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BCZ,
Agreed. Lets dive into this a little further, since we have no idea what “cap hits” we’d take. One option is unload by trade. Dismiss the idea that nobody will trade for this guy due to the size of his contract. contracts can be negotiated – as you’ve so graciously pointed out. What players would you ask to rework their contracts and which ones would you like to just place on the trade block and get them off the team?
the defense is a hot mess right now and I’m not blaming Chuck for all of it. He didn’t have Nnamdi Asomugha (#1 CB in the NFL). He lost ShoNasty, CJ37, Chekwa, Eugene & Goethel to injuries. Seymour, Henderson, McClain & Huff were banged up more often than not. Tried to get creative with a bunch of guys that were schooled in Al’s defensive philosophy. no offseason to implement any such changes. I think we could win 10+ games with Chuck returning as DC
Fire Away!!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 am
If it looks like a Duck…Iv done my research, you havent, theres more info out there then what you read in this blog. You thinking both stadiums get built proves youre clueless.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:10 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 am
If it looks like a Duck…Iv done my research, you havent, theres more info out there then what you read in this blog. You thinking both stadiums get built proves youre clueless.
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Then please back your assertion that the two sides are suing each other. And where is this “research” you’re referring to. Links, please.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Good morning Raider brethren.. Hue Jackson apologists.. Giordano lovers.. and ‘others’..
January 24th, 2012 at 8:21 am
DD,
Tom Cable = O-Line/Asst HC for Seattle
Hue Jackson = QB Coach for Arizona
at least Lane Kiffin used us as a stepping stone!
amazing how Al Davis with an overhead projector can take you from zero to hero. wow
January 24th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Duck, Im not your daddy, or your mommy. You are a lazy person that as soon as there is information needed you instantly cry, “let me see the link!”…there comes a time when people have to put in their own work, not rely on others to simply place the info on the table for you…I myself have talked to Sam Farmer, the man on top of this story down there more then anyone, maybe if you spent less time on a blog and learned something you wouldnt have to beg others to provide you with facts.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Matt Giordano will coach this team to an 8-8 record and eventually succeed Bill Belichick in N.E. for another 5 Super Bowls
January 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Interesting in how “ArmysInCharge” cut and ran as soon as I asked for evidence. Typical troll.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Ya, I ran,..try scrolling up loser.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:26 am
272 did you see any xfl games ,they played old school football .no fair catch .it was a hitting game .i enjoyed watching them.if they couldve held on a few seasons they could have stole some of the show imo
January 24th, 2012 at 8:27 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Spoil LA Times & ESPN’s Plan to Move the OAKLAND RAIDERS to LA! Vote NO! to the Raiders moving to LA in link above! Vote NO!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:21 am
DD,
Tom Cable = O-Line/Asst HC for Seattle
Hue Jackson = QB Coach for Arizona
at least Lane Kiffin used us as a stepping stone!
amazing how Al Davis with an overhead projector can take you from zero to hero. wow
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And look where Art Shell is..
January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Duck, Im not your daddy, or your mommy. You are a lazy person that as soon as there is information needed you instantly cry, “let me see the link!”…there comes a time when people have to put in their own work, not rely on others to simply place the info on the table for you…I myself have talked to Sam Farmer, the man on top of this story down there more then anyone, maybe if you spent less time on a blog and learned something you wouldnt have to beg others to provide you with facts.
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“I myself have talked to Sam Farmer” — HAHAHAHA. Sure, pal. So did I, just last week. He was sitting at a table with Jimmy Hoffa and Elvis.
“there comes a time when people have to put in their own work, not rely on others to simply place the info on the table for you” — In other words, the old “I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, BUT YOU DON’T DESERVE IT, SO THERE!” dodge. That didn’t even impress me back in grade school.
Like I said: Typical troll.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 am
@PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
Plenty of @raiders coaches here @seniorbowl – Ross, Bresnahan, Skipper, Hunley, Saunders..
January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:33 am
282.Carl Weathers Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I just heard that a sh!t load of people put a LOT of money on the Gaints, back when they were 6-6, to win the super bowl at very high odds. Apparently it will be a huge hit to Vegas sportsbooks… might the fix be in come Feb. 5th?
Not sure what the odds were but I’m gonna guess they had to be at least 50-1.
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100-1 after they lost to the packers week 13. Could a ref or two be paid off?
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Yeah but they probably made it all back on the Raiders. If the 6-6 Giants were 100-1 then what was the 7-4 Raiders? 50 million to 1??
January 24th, 2012 at 8:31 am
PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
Plenty of @raiders coaches here @seniorbowl – Ross, Bresnahan, Skipper, Hunley, Saunders..
…..
They are looking for work too.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:35 am
No Bresnahan is going to be our new HC.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
And look where Art Shell is..
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Working for the NFL in a cushy office gig… Not too bad if you ask me, I bet they pay him more than Al did.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
bcz24 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
And look where Art Shell is..
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Working for the NFL in a cushy office gig… Not too bad if you ask me, I bet they pay him more than Al did.
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Exactly.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
wasbanned Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:31 am
PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
Plenty of @raiders coaches here @seniorbowl – Ross, Bresnahan, Skipper, Hunley, Saunders..
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They are looking for work too.
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Yup, and/or hoping Allen or whoever keeps them on.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Would anybody be in favor for trading dmac for 2 2nd rounders?
Seymore 3rd rounder, boss for a 4 th, huff for a 3rd or 4 th.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:38 am
The only one you might get that out of is DMAC.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:39 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Would anybody be in favor for trading dmac for 2 2nd rounders?
Seymore 3rd rounder, boss for a 4 th, huff for a 3rd or 4 th.
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If they could get anything for Sey and Huff then I would do it. I don’t think it would be that hard to replace their production.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Teams will unfortunately not be interested in Huff. His reputation with other teams around the league is that he’s “soft”.
He sure had a nice contract year, though.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Duck, some people know people that you hear of, like say media people, sports figures,..however you do not, so anytime someone says theyve spoken to a person who is semi-famous, well you instantly doubt it, only because YOU dont know anyone. Bingo. Typical troll that you are.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Seymour could get a 3rd rounder from a 3-4 team who needs a solid veteran. He’d have to restructure his contract first.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Injuries happen. Huff never got a chance to really get it going.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
I am against trading McFadden away. He is a rare talent, and not easily replaced, we already saw what our season turned into without him. I would change my opinion if we could pry Forte from the hands of Chicago, but that is fairly unlikely. McFadden isn’t going anywhere.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Trade Seymour back to NE for a 3. He would do fine in their scheme and provide them with a situational pass rusher they could certainly use. Unfortunately NE would probably give us a 6 for him and laugh about it too.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:43 am
If we stay predominantely 4-3, then we can talk about trading Seymour.
If we go with a heavy 3-4. No way. Re-structuring his contract would have to happen in either scenario.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:45 am
When, other than his contract year, has Huff ever looked like an above-average, or even an average NFL safety?
January 24th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Seymour isn’t the type of player you’d use as a situational pass rusher. He’d be a 2-down base DE in a 3-4.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:47 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:45 am
When, other than his contract year, has Huff ever looked like an above-average, or even an average NFL safety?
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He’s looked average his whole career. The first year he got switched to the other side of the field he had a good year. Hi contract year was good.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I remember before season started and any of our free agents we’re re signed and that fs from sf gholston was available and a lot of people said he was soft and couldn’t tackle, lol mo fo is a pro bowler and can tackle better than any of our db’s except branch. We missed out on Carlos Rogers too, I guess it wouldn’t of mattered since our players were put in wrong place all day compliments of bres.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:49 am
DMac is a rare talent in the sense that he’s rarely on the field.
Even McFadden isn’t unstoppable when he’s healthy. Elite running backs quite simply don’t help their teams win. If they did, the Chargers, Vikings, Jaguars, and Seahawks would all have rings by now.
The Raiders would be wise to stock up on RBs who can do enough to keep the offense moving, and use the draft picks and cap space they’d get in return for McFadden to improve the other parts of the team.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Missed out on Carlos Rogers??
He was a 1st round bust who nobody wanted.
He was one of the last FA CBs to sign.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Adam Schefter
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
Hmmm
January 24th, 2012 at 8:51 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I remember before season started and any of our free agents we’re re signed and that fs from sf gholston was available and a lot of people said he was soft and couldn’t tackle, lol mo fo is a pro bowler and can tackle better than any of our db’s except branch. We missed out on Carlos Rogers too, I guess it wouldn’t of mattered since our players were put in wrong place all day compliments of bres.
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Goldson has actually missed A LOT of tackles this season. But a good supporting cast covers the weaknesses in his game.
He’s not great in coverage. Good instincts in run support, but an inconsistent tackler. Still a better player than Huff, if only because of those instincts.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:51 am
video to the xfl here. the play may be sub nfl ,but the players had fun .its everything the nfl doesnt like
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http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=xfl
January 24th, 2012 at 8:52 am
If anything, the Raiders missed on Johnathan Joseph, who signed for less money than Stan Routt got.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
And you cant ‘miss’ on a FA that doesnt or didnt want to sign with you in the first place.
People talk like we could have had all these FAs..
This isnt Madden.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
If Allen is the guy, Broderick Bunkley and Wesley Woodyard would be free agents to watch. Both had very good seasons in Allen’s system.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:55 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
And you cant ‘miss’ on a FA that doesnt or didnt want to sign with you in the first place.
People talk like we could have had all these FAs..
This isnt Madden.
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Which is too bad! My Raiders beat the crap out of everybody on Madden!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Dennis Allen doesnt give me goosebumps, but thats not whats needed.
If he is the right guy, make the hire.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:56 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
And you cant ‘miss’ on a FA that doesnt or didnt want to sign with you in the first place.
People talk like we could have had all these FAs..
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It’s about money. And if Al was going to hand out $11 million per season to cornerback other than Routt, do you think Joseph would have refused to listen? Very, very, very unlikely.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Raiderbuck Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:55 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
And you cant ‘miss’ on a FA that doesnt or didnt want to sign with you in the first place.
People talk like we could have had all these FAs..
This isnt Madden.
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Which is too bad! My Raiders beat the crap out of everybody on Madden!
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Speed kills. :0
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Duck, some people know people that you hear of, like say media people, sports figures,..however you do not, so anytime someone says theyve spoken to a person who is semi-famous, well you instantly doubt it, only because YOU dont know anyone. Bingo. Typical troll that you are.
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Whatever. Go back to your fantasy world. I’m done with you. Just don’t speak up about stuff like stadium moves unless you know what you’re talking about next time. That’s all I ask.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider Nation Station Facebook:
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:58 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:56 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
And you cant ‘miss’ on a FA that doesnt or didnt want to sign with you in the first place.
People talk like we could have had all these FAs..
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It’s about money. And if Al was going to hand out $11 million per season to cornerback other than Routt, do you think Joseph would have refused to listen? Very, very, very unlikely.
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An assumption that cant be made. Cant.
You opinion (or mine) doesnt equate to fact.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:58 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider Nation Station Facebook:
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
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Is Raider Nation Station in the business of lifting updates from Adam Schefter?
January 24th, 2012 at 8:58 am
“There’s another candidate in the mix for the Colts’ head-coaching vacancy: 49ers special teams coach Brad Seely.”
Another Special Teams coach moving to a head coaching gig in the NFL!
According to our blog expert Brownstains, Special Teams coaches cant be a Head Coach in the NFL.
It never gets old burning that guy on his lack of football knowledge!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:59 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider Nation Station Facebook:
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
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Did you just quote the ‘Raider Nation Station Facebook’??…
Oh geeze..
January 24th, 2012 at 8:59 am
An assumption that cant be made. Cant.
You opinion (or mine) doesnt equate to fact.
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The fact is that free agents go where the money is. It’s ludicrous to assume that this situation would be any different.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:00 am
368.
Is that where they got it?
Had to com e from somewhere. I imagine thats where Jerry, Steve, Silver ect ect are going to get it but you’ll note jacka-s-s they had it b4 them
January 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:59 am
An assumption that cant be made. Cant.
You opinion (or mine) doesnt equate to fact.
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The fact is that free agents go where the money is. It’s ludicrous to assume that this situation would be any different.
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Its ludicrous to assume period.
Free Agents arent lumped into “go where the money is”.
There are other factors like..winning.. organization.. etc.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Free agents talk to any body that pays duech deuch and AD paid stupid money so I am sure it was the other way around. I doubt that many players turned the head when AD pulled out his check book.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Dennis Allen? Good choice.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Another thing to check: what the former team thinks. I checked out what a few Bronco fans were saying, and they are NOT happy about potentially losing Allen. They like him a lot better than John Fox.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Its ludicrous to assume period.
Free Agents arent lumped into “go where the money is”.
There are other factors like..winning.. organization.. etc.
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A winning organization is what vets who have already had their payday look for.
Guys whose rookie contract just expired? Especially guys who are borderline Pro Bowl players? They’re looking for long-term, big-money deals. Like the one Routt got, even though he’s a #2 CB at best.
Joseph took less money to be the Texans’ #1 CB. And before last season, the Texans were never a “winning organization”.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Duck- “Im done with you” = I cant outsmart with this guy so Im moving on. Typical troll.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Put 10 lbs of muscle on TJ and we got dmac Jr.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:05 am
John Fox and Dennis Allen got the Broncos to the playoffs. They allowed the Broncos offense to put up 10, 13 points and still win games.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:05 am
The Raiders would be wise to stock up on RBs who can do enough to keep the offense moving, and use the draft picks and cap space they’d get in return for McFadden to improve the other parts of the team.
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You assume we can get compensation worthy of what McFadden provides for this team. There is a derth of free agent RB’s. No one is going to give up 2 2’s for an oft injured RB, when there are 20 other running backs to chose from from FA pool.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Bag on RNS all U want in fact, stay away from it then I can continue to skewl you pretentious fewls.
Funny, the bring the funk day after day year after year and people think they still know better and dismiss it.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
You assume we can get compensation worthy of what McFadden provides for this team. There is a derth of free agent RB’s. No one is going to give up 2 2’s for an oft injured RB, when there are 20 other running backs to chose from from FA pool.
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Plenty of teams will be attracted by DMac’s potential. There are also teams who have few other areas to improve, where bringing in a part-time player who can be a difference maker when healthy isn’t a huge risk.
Personally, I’d take a 2nd and a 4th for McFadden. If the Raiders can’t get that, then they should just restructure his contract.
Either way, the Raiders need to add two more running backs to the roster. One to replace Bush if he leaves in free agency. One to fill McFadden’s spot when he gets injured again.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:08 am
NE would trade 2 2nd rounders for dmac and he would be a pro bowler for 4yrs.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Paul Gutierrez
Plenty of Raiders coaches here @seniorbowl – Ross, Bresnahan, Skipper, Hunley, Saunders..
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What about Biekert, Woodson, Wylie, Henry & Wiz ???
January 24th, 2012 at 9:09 am
384. Darn tootin’. We ditch DMC hes gonna be the shizz nite. Best RB in the game hands down till he got injured…again.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:10 am
385. I imagine they can’t take them all but suspiciously most of the missing are hardcore Davis men.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Is it unusual to have so many “Raider” coaches at the Senoir bowl or does this mean McK plans on acquiring more draft picks. He did say he loves them…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Bag on RNS all U want in fact, stay away from it then I can continue to skewl you pretentious fewls.
Funny, the bring the funk day after day year after year and people think they still know better and dismiss it.
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Well, if they’re the type of site that steals from other journalists and doesn’t give them credit? I have no use for them. That’s simply unethical. Total lack of integrity there.
Also, unless this has changed in the last couple years, the grammar is horrendous in the few articles I’ve read from there in the past. Terrible syntax, spelling and punctuation errors – it’s like there’s no editing process whatsoever. Even if the “insight” from that site was something I couldn’t get anywhere else (and it definitely isn’t), it’s unreadable. That’s why I haven’t been back since finding a link in this blog a couple years ago.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Have you ever heard a GM say he hates draft picks?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:14 am
I just hope Allen keeps most of the offensive staff. Our offense was NOT the problem last year. Defense and discipline were what cost us.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Personally, I’d take a 2nd and a 4th for McFadden. If the Raiders can’t get that, then they should just restructure his contract.
Either way, the Raiders need to add two more running backs to the roster. One to replace Bush if he leaves in free agency. One to fill McFadden’s spot when he gets injured again.
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Why would he restructure the last year of his deal? You know what McFadden is going to do next year. Its a contract year. He is going to be an absolute beast. 2000+ total yards from scrimmage easily.
I would love to sign Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis to replace Bush. He would be a solid contributor, he is an excellent pass protector (something Bush has proven he absolutely is NOT) and he literally has NEVER fumbled in the NFL. Not a single time.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:15 am
our players were put in wrong place all day compliments of bres.
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DR55,
complete & utter horse crap!
gimme some examples… thanks
January 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:15 am
our players were put in wrong place all day compliments of bres.
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DR55,
complete & utter horse crap!
gimme some examples… thanks
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McClain covering WR’s?
Houston covering ANYONE???
Wimbley used in coverage instead of charging upfield?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:17 am
393.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:15 am
our players were put in wrong place all day compliments of bres.
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DR55,
complete & utter horse crap!
gimme some examples… thanks
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It is completely unprovable. You will NEVER know what the play called required of the players to say they were put out of position versus, just didn’t know what the fck they were doing.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I don’t know where y’all keep getting this, but it is NOT the last year of McFadden’s deal. He’s making $5.5 million in 2012 and a little more in 2013.
The Raiders are already over the salary cap, with several other areas of the team they need to improve. At this point they couldn’t even sign BJGE, much less any impact defensive player.
$5 million a year is too much for a player who has recurring toe and foot injuries. Too much for a player who isn’t effective when he’s not 100% healthy. Too much for a running back when running backs can’t carry teams against elite defenses.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:18 am
389. lol! I’m sure they could care less if one grammar school teacher gets offended by their lack of syntax. Honeslty, have U ever read ANY raider sites other than this one?
RN times, Silver and black pride, TFDS all horrible. At least this one has the right info most of the time and yeah, the best insight.
No need to argue with you. Have your opinion. I’m sure they could care less. i9 know I couldn’t.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:18 am
If DMC tried to play with a broken foot you guys would say trade him for a 5th rounder,..but he tried desperately to rehab his foot in hopes he could get out there and help, but wasnt enough time, so you guys want a 2nd rounder for him,…you guys call in sick at McDonalds when you have a hangover but you want a running back with a broken foot to play,…nobody here is educated beyond high school.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:19 am
The only guy you have to stick with is richard seymour. All his money is guaranteed and he has few productive years left. So you either play him or sit him. Doesn’t matter you still pay him.
The rest of these check cashers have time still left in their careers. Something needs to be done, restructure or release.
If u take the hit this year, u have a CLEAN slate next year. You won’t miss their collective lack of production
January 24th, 2012 at 9:19 am
twocents, you don’t even know McKenzie. He was an obscure front office employee in Green Bay just two weeks ago. Would you quit it with the engaging write ups on him?
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How long has Sully been swinging on Wolf’s Nutzsack and now we get a GM recommended by Wolf and Sully44
“You’re talking about the ability to evaluate, right?” Wolf told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal. “Pure evaluation. Yeah, I would think so. He’s just as good as Ted is.
“Reggie’s a tremendous evaluator. He can tell you who can play and who can’t play. That’s what it’s all about. Some can write reports but can’t tell you who can play.
“Whatever that is, he has that. He has a feel.”-Ron Wolf
and Big Mac says:
“It’s interesting because of my history. I’m a Raider fan. They allowed me to come into this NFL. I’m forever grateful. I had some good years up there.”
January 24th, 2012 at 9:20 am
396. McFadden’s injured too much period. BUT if anyone can lead an O over an elite D at RB its DMC.
Most complete back in the game and waaay under used especially split out.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:22 am
398. Then of course you’ve got people who say he sat and the D tanked so Mark could fire Hue.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I know our 2010 defense was better than our 2011 defence and I know we got a new d. Cord. In 2011 o and the other big factor we had the same fugggin players except namdi. Get off me
January 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am
nobody here is educated beyond high school.
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I assume you are including yourself in such a broad statement… you haven’t exactly demonstrated Harvard class intelligence.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Looks like it’s Dennis Allen according to ESPN.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:18 am
389. lol! I’m sure they could care less if one grammar school teacher gets offended by their lack of syntax. Honeslty, have U ever read ANY raider sites other than this one?
RN times, Silver and black pride, TFDS all horrible. At least this one has the right info most of the time and yeah, the best insight.
No need to argue with you. Have your opinion. I’m sure they could care less. i9 know I couldn’t.
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Well if you’re trying to be any kind of journalist, even if it’s just in the form of taking 2nd- and 3rd-hand information and repeating it in your blog as if you sourced it yourself, you SHOULD be concerned about your grammar. If they can teach it to elementary school students, why can’t you learn to properly use the English language? The only reason is laziness, and why am I supposed to believe the insight of anyone who is too lazy to use the spell check feature in Microsoft Word?
You’re right. They’re all horrible. That’s why I prefer to read sites where the writer is A) a professional, and B) has some means of contacting people close to the situation.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
We dog Chucky B and Al Davis, but sometimes players have to play. There have been guys that have excelled in al’s system.
To be sure, al made big contract mistakes. However, these check cashers took advatage of Al Davis’ trust and confidence on them to be great.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
I didnt go to an Ivy League school but do have a four year degree.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:22 am
398. Then of course you’ve got people who say he sat and the D tanked so Mark could fire Hue.
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QUIET! Don’t give MR and his sockpuppets any ideas.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Dennis Allen…McKenzie must believe in him….at least he’s a Defense guy ..
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
our players were put in wrong place all day compliments of bres.
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DR55,
complete & utter horse crap!
gimme some examples… thanks
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It is completely unprovable. You will NEVER know what the play called required of the players to say they were put out of position versus, just didn’t know what the fck they were doing.
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How about the Buffalo game, shouldn’t we have been playing some type of press coverage? Do you remember the quotes from the D-lineman? That they were not even being blocked, the pass was getting off so fast that the pass-rush was non-factor?
Or just the fact that Bres was being out coached and out schemed:
Curry on Devone Bess?
Houston on Antonio Gates?
Practice squad safety and middele linebacker on the BEST RECEIVER IN THE LEAGUE!
Or the texans game? 10 men on the field in the final play of the game?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
395. ?????
Of course you can tell which players where and the plays called!
Bres is an idiot who failed to make proper adjustments based on opposing Os, who he had to field and their strengths weaknesses.
Again and again from the Texans to Detroit to SD he kept calling the same crap, getting us killed and costing us games.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
402.FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:22 am
398. Then of course you’ve got people who say he sat and the D tanked so Mark could fire Hue.
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Any player who sat, or delibrately lost to get his coach fired, NO MATTER WHO the coach was is not welcome on my team.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7497230/oakland-raiders-hope-hire-denver-broncos-dennis-allen-coach-sources-say
Link to ESPN, saying Raiders hope to finalize negotiations with Allen.
They always say “Start with the ability to beat the opponent in your own division.”
Perhaps Reggie figures that Allen will give us a heads up on what he figures will be a persistent challenge from Elway for the division title?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Two young coaches in the Bay Area?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT:
Let me just say first, that as an ardent Raider Fan, I love rooting against Philip Rivers and the Chargers, and no doubt despite the article linked here, I will continue to do so next year, but every now and then like when the season is over I read an article like this and I’m reminded that these are real people who do some really special things. Check it out.
http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Rivers-makes-wish-come-true/94e827c3-f5ae-46b5-8525-b7f2162fd773
January 24th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Is it unusual to have so many “Raider” coaches at the Senoir bowl
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Ole,
they are all FORMER raider assistants. they are there looking for work. a few might get snapped up by other NFL teams. the rest will probably blow kisses at Dennis Allen or whoever the Raiders hire as new HC
If Allen tells’em to go kick rocks they may go sniff around the UFL …
January 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:20 am
396. McFadden’s injured too much period. BUT if anyone can lead an O over an elite D at RB its DMC.
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Well, even in 2010 – he struggled against the Steelers, Colts, Dolphins, and Texans. And only one of those teams was an “elite” defense at the time.
This season, the Patriots shut him down and the Texans contained him once again.
The NFL has changed. Offenses can’t lean on RBs, even if the RB in question is an “elite” guy. Again, how much good have AP and MJD done for their teams? Ladanian Tomlinson ever get SD to the big dance? What did Jamaal Charles do for KC against the Ravens in the playoffs in 2010?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:29 am
YoungAmerican, your teetering on the line of passing your ‘opinions’ off as facts.
You have some good insights, ideas & opinions. But please remember your on an internet blog.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:29 am
However, these check cashers took advatage of Al Davis’ trust and confidence on them to be great.
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ROFLMAO….Truth
Per huff, they all have direct deposit…Either way we spend way to much money on a no performing asset which is the D
Seymo
MccCLain
Wimbley
Routt
Huff
TK
All of these guys are making HOF money…yet I would not consider any of them a “PLAYMAKER”
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
@YoungAmerican
How about Ray Rice, really didn’t do anything in both playoff games….
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Only Raider fans can complain all year about how our offense isnt the same and how we cant win without DMC, then suggest we trade him in the off-season. LOL. Classic.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am
whoever we hire hope he turns the D on its head…
I would be okay with firing everyone on that side of the ball…Including the ball boy…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am
One more scrap of a head coach option has been eaten by the wolves. At least we know whoever the coach is going to be, its not going to excite anyone.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Maybe the name “Allen” is a good luck charm for the Raiders? A return to glory….
January 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Only Raider fans can complain all year about how our offense isnt the same and how we cant win without DMC, then suggest we trade him in the off-season. LOL. Classic.
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These same “fans” will start bagging on Allen by this evening at the latest.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:33 am
So Matt Giordano is a cant lose player. But DMC isnt.
Nice..
Now here is where someone mentions “trying hard”…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I think we could win 10+ games with Chuck returning as DC
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That would really put that theory of a coach being as good as his players to test, now wouldn’t it?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:33 am
408.AmysInCharge Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
I didnt go to an Ivy League school but do have a four year degree.
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I see. Is your degree in ‘internet assumptions’?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:34 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
@YoungAmerican
How about Ray Rice, really didn’t do anything in both playoff games….
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Yep. Had a pretty good day against the Patriots in 2009 (or 2010? I think it was ‘09…), though. And Ray Rice is, I think, the best, most complete, most reliable running back in the league.
A VERY nice asset for the Ravens to have (especially as a 2nd round pick), and helps take some pressure off Flacco. But when push comes to shove? Teams have to make things happen through the air to knock off elite opponents.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:34 am
406. *Yawn* enjoy that.
I could care less what you read or think. Not my site Becky. Just one I believe tells it like it is and gives me info on a team I love.
Like I said, don’t read it. 100s of thousands of other people have. !@#$ I should start a site…lets see 2.5 to 5 cents per click, half a million clicks…at lets say 3.5…
F!@#! I need to build a raider site! THEN you can come and hate on it Dung Americun! Why am I wasting my time here on hatin bishes?!
lol!
Enjoy the day nation!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Dennis Allen it is I guess.
Well, at least the guy is not a proven loser like Moron-weg or a dull dude like Tice…..at least not yet.
Nice to have a HC who will focus on the D. Keep Saunders around for some continuity on the O, bring in a DC and get the ball rollin’!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:35 am
AdamSchefter
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
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New post????
January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
I think we could win 10+ games with Chuck returning as DC
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Some things should not be smoked…Whoever made this comment is on some psychotropic type ish…
Put it down man…Put it down….
January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Was this Allen’s first year as the Donkey DC?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
whats good DMAC?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
417. Niiice! Thanks RR
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Actually, I AM excited if it’s Allen.
Young coaches, like Gruden, are often consumed by their passion. They are also open to trying new things, open to looking for the kinds of guys others might not look at, and their enthusiasm is often infectious.
I think that what is most important is the coaching team, the people that the HC gathers to him, and the responsibilities and freedoms the hc gives his team members. You can’t be held accountable for anything if you’re never given some freedom.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Another perspective:
http://www.milehighreport.com/2012/1/23/2727591/denver-broncos-dennis-allen-to-interview-a-second-time-with-raiders#comments
Between all the standard Raider-hater comments, they are NOT happy at Allen leaving. They’d rather we would have taken that numbskull McCoy.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
.PGutierrezCSN
Plenty of @raiders coaches here @seniorbowl – Ross, Bresnahan, Skipper, Hunley, Saunders..
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Only Raider fans can complain all year about how our offense isnt the same and how we cant win without DMC, then suggest we trade him in the off-season. LOL. Classic.
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The Raiders’ offense stagnated because they rolled with Bush and Cartwright for the rest of the season, with Bush playing 30+ snaps a game – something he is NOT built to do.
Have to spell the guy. Should have promoted Lonyae Miller, at the very least. Needed another warm body, with fresh legs. Need a guy who opens up the playbook a little because Bush can’t run off tackle.
The Raiders didn’t need a gamebreaker. Just a guy who could help keep Bush’s carries around 15-20 by specializing in the things Bush doesn’t do effectively.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Thec07 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
whats good DMAC?
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Another day, another $
Glad the Whiner bandwagon fever is finally OVER!
What up w/ u?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Reggie McKenzie had to know he was going to be the GM for the Raiders for a long time before it was announced. Didn’t he know who he wanted to bring in as head coach or did his evaluation start after his signing was announced?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
J Hill Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:35 am
AdamSchefter
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
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New post????
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It’s not noon yet, so Corkran’s still in bed.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
If it is Allen .. Then id agree that I hope Saunders stays on ..
January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
best rb on the ravens is Ricky Williams…
Cam Cameron is an idiot…Williams was trucking pats
rice goes off to the sidelines hobbling…comes back in and later gets stuffed on a draw play on 3rd down…
Dumb azz play call, dumb use of personnel.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
HC – Fangio
OC – Saunders
DC – Bowles
January 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
434.
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider Nation Station Facebook:
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
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Dung Americun can bag all he wants but they’re faster than Steve lol!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
DMAC Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Thec07 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
whats good DMAC?
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Another day, another $
Glad the Whiner bandwagon fever is finally OVER!
What up w/ u?
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Ish is like ground hog day..Wake up to the same ish every day…Its ok though…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
1996-1999 Texas A&M University(Graduate Assistant Coach)
2000-2001 Tulsa University(Secondary Coach)
2002-2005 Atlanta Falcons(Defensive Assistant/Quality Control Coach)
2006-2007 New Orleans Saints(Assistant Defensive Line Coach)
2008-2010 New Orleans Saints(Secondary Coach)
2011-Present Denver Broncos(Defensive Coordinator)
January 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/24/dennis-allen-is-the-leading-candidate-in-oakland/
January 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Question:
I liked a lot of the trick plays we started seeing with Hue, although on occasion they weren’t executed by the players (the offsides one killed us).
Do you think Hue designed those plays or Saunders?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
434.
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider Nation Station Facebook:
Raiders have identified Broncos DC Dennis Allen as the leading candidate to become their next HC. Raiders told other candidates they’re out.
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Dung Americun can bag all he wants but they’re faster than Steve lol!
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I posted it here before RNS did. And I cited my source, whereas RNS plagiarized.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
DMAC Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
HC – Fangio
OC – Saunders
DC – Bowles
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I can dig that…
Would love to see whoever is hired keep Saunders… He is a stand up guy in my opinion, and could keep this O rolling. Only question is can he or is he willing to call the plays????
January 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
According to Schefter…I guess Dennis Allen it is…
Anyways, he did do good for that Donkey D…kept them in a lot of games, like the Niner D…only question…who would his DC and OC be?
Thec, DMAC…what’s up guys?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am
best rb on the ravens is Ricky Williams…
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Some cats on here seemed to think that Williams wouldn’t have been a good pickup for us last offseason.
I’d take Lynch and Williams as my 2 main backs next year.
Wouldn’t hesitate at all!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Maybe Allen was out sick when the Donkeys Defense played the Bills …
January 24th, 2012 at 9:44 am
442. The knock on Taiwan wasn’t his dyslexia it was his inability to stay healthy.
The injuries and under performance of WRs and TEs truncated the Raider attack as well allowing teams to key on Bush.
BTW,Bush ran 30 times only TWICE in week 10 and 11 after that it was 24, 10,23, 18 and 19 times.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Like I said.. second interviews normally a good indication that you found your new hc… it normally works that way outside of the NFL too.. I think it will be Allen as well..
January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
is Dennis Allen known around the league as a bright young defensive mind?
is he a discipline guy or a players coach?
a dummy like Cable or an egghead like Jackson?
He’s been a coach in the NFL since 2002 and he’s working his way up the chain. Is he ready for HC though at 39 years old and only 1 year as Coordinator under his belt? I’ll be interested to know who “his guys” are for OC & DC
If it’s Saunders for OC & Richard Smith for DC, color me NOT IMPRESSED!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
441.J Hill Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
.PGutierrezCSN
Plenty of @raiders coaches here @seniorbowl – Ross, Bresnahan, Skipper, Hunley, Saunders..
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Bresnahan??! BRESNAHAN?!? How the fvck is this guy still associated with this team?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
458.. LOL. . Ouch.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
new post!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Second interview didn’t quite work out so well for McCoy!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
#416,
While I hate him when he shreds our defense, I have always thought Philip Rivers a classy individual, and have, in years past, wished he were our qb. I LIKE his passion, both on and off the field.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Perhaps Allen got the inside track in his interview because having faced us twice, he was able to offer Reggie a very astute assessment of our defensive strengths and weaknesses, not just regarding scheme, but regarding “talent.”
I have always felt that the media gave Davis too much credit for assessment of talent while scorning his meddling, and I do believe their assessments became rote:”Ohhh, the Raiders–sooooo much talent, soooo little achievement.”
Give me defensive backs that look back at the ball before you talk to me about talent.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Oh, yeah, and not for many years have we had more than adequate talent on the offensive line. Finally, this year, with Wiz and Veldeer, we have 2/5ths of what we need.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am
#464,
Where’s the “new post”?
January 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Raiders for life Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Why does everyone assume that when McKenzie said “I want to bring in my own guy” that he already had someone in mind for the HC job?
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1. part of the reason is that he stated in his first press release as gm that he has a “short list of candidates”.
that’s a big reason why. that comment alone lead fans to believe that he had a clear idea of who he wanted to bring in.
on a side note: seems sensible that you don’t fire a guy without have a good idea of who will be (better than him) to replace him.
in truth, as far as most can see, the list seems to continues to grow on a daily basis with no ryhme or reason.
V
January 25th, 2012 at 1:51 am
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