CSN-Bay Area: No negotiations with Allen yet
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, January 24th, 2012 at 2:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie was scheduled to meet with Denver defensive coordinator Dennis Allen Tuesday night for a second interview for the club’s vacant head coaching job, but McKenzie told CSN-Bay Area reports of “negotiations’’ were premature.
ESPN reported Tuesday morning the Raiders had identified Allen as the lead candidate and were negotiating a contract.
“There’s no negotiations (right now),’’ McKenzie said.
Citing “multiple league sources,’’ the ESPN reported Tuesday that other candidates, including Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice have been formed they are no longer under consideration.
Asked by CSN-Bay Area if Allen could lock up the job Tuesday night, McKenzie said. “He could. Depends. He’s got a lot of stuff he needs to answer. Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
McKenzie said the fates of other candidates would depend on Allen’s interview.
Tice, according to reports in the Chicago media, removed himself from consideration Monday night. Other candidates reported to have interviewed include Mornhinweg, Green Bay assistant head coach Winston Moss and Miami defensive coordinator Todd Bowles.
Allen, 39, would be the first Raiders head coach with a defensive background since John Madden was hired by Al Davis in1969 to succeed John Rauch. Before being hired by Denver, Allen was a defensive backs coach with the New Orleans Saints and also worked with the defensive line in both New Orleans and Atlanta.
McKenzie is in Mobile, Ala., scouting for the Senior Bowl and told CSN-Bay Area Monday he hoped to have a coach named by the end of the week. McKenzie said at the time of his hiring he wanted his “own guy’’ as head coach and dismissed Hue Jackson after one season.
Allen’s strong candidacy is somewhat of a surprise given that he and McKenzie have no known background. McKenzie reportedly interviewed Allen for the first time last week in Denver while the Broncos other candidate, offensive coordinator Mike McCoy, pulled out of the running to concentrate on the vacancy in Miami.
In terms of defensive philosophy, Allen told the Broncos Web site heading into the 2011 season “We’re going to be built off speed and athleticism. We want to be a very fast, violent, aggressive type of defense.’’
Defensive collapses against Buffalo, Denver and San Diego in the season finale helped keep the Raiders out of the playoffs.
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January 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
January 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
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January 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
January 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
There was a defense in those games?
January 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Reggie seems to be a deliberate man, from a deliberate organisation.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Peace hello.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Asked by CSN-Bay Area if Allen could lock up the job Tuesday night, McKenzie said. “He could. Depends. He’s got a lot of stuff he needs to answer. Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
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AKA, “We’re going to be cheap as hell about this. How little are you willing to work for?”
If the answer is $8/hour then Allen is in. Otherwise, the search continues.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Defensive collapses against Buffalo, Denver and San Diego in the season finale helped keep the Raiders out of the playoffs.
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Like Hue Jackson, Denver’s Defense only showed up once in the final five games!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Asked by CSN-Bay Area if Allen could lock up the job Tuesday night, McKenzie said. “He could. Depends. He’s got a lot of stuff he needs to answer. Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
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AKA, “We’re going to be cheap as hell about this. How little are you willing to work for?”
If the answer is $8/hour then Allen is in. Otherwise, the search continues.
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Just can’t wait to bash Reggie Mac, can you? How long are you going to carry a torch for Hue?
January 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Asked by CSN-Bay Area if Allen could lock up the job Tuesday night, McKenzie said. “He could. Depends. He’s got a lot of stuff he needs to answer. Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
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AKA, “We’re going to be cheap as hell about this. How little are you willing to work for?”
If the answer is $8/hour then Allen is in. Otherwise, the search continues.
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LOL. Thought the exact same thing. Damn the raiders are cheap, just look at the haircuts!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
If Allen is at the senior bowl is he still working for Denver right now and did Reggie bring him a collared raider logo shirt and baseball cap with the raider logo on it? If he did I will be very impressed.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
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Damn Reg!
Irregardless?????
January 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I live in Denver and this guy is good.
The Donkey Defense was bad through week 7. Then the Defense was really responsible for that win streak as they were holding opponents to an average of 17 years for like 7/8 games.
the Donks offense was horrible and punted the whole game so even more kudos to D Allen.
We need a defensive HC, maybe he is our guy!!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Davis and Reggie having bad hair day = fired Hue.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
no donk coaches!!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
“He’s got a lot of stuff he needs to answer,” McKenzie told the website. “Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.”
Wow, what an articulate and professional executive.
I always wondered why McKenzie was passed over for every other GM position he has applied for…After reading this and seeing his press conference, I think we know.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
My son told me today one of his friends read one of my stories posted on the wall while taking a leak at Hooters. Imagine the pride . . .
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LOL!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
If Reggie says it’s Allen then I’m behind Allen. Not sure I understand all the negativity in here towards Reggie. Give the man a chance.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
# jmcneal333 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I just hope that the Raiders retain Al Saunders as the Offensive Coordinator. He knows the team and they know his offense. We need to keep going in the direction that we are going in there.
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I agree. If Allen or Moss or mystery guy wind up with the gig, than there is no point in switching to a new offensive terminology and bringing in a whole new offensive coaching staff.
Keep Saunders, Wylie, Wiz and even that Penguin looking RB coach Skipper.
I think Bones Fassel should stay also.
Allen and Bones can have a competition and see who can get bigger and stronger and gain the most weight first! LO
January 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
If Reggie says it’s Allen then I’m behind Allen. Not sure I understand all the negativity in here towards Reggie. Give the man a chance.
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People are upset that Gruden’s not coming back…
January 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Jerry keeps on forgetting about the Defensive collapse versus Detroit and the Defense not even showing up versus Miami.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Asked by CSN-Bay Area if Allen could lock up the job Tuesday night, McKenzie said. “He could. Depends. He’s got a lot of stuff he needs to answer. Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
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AKA, “We’re going to be cheap as hell about this. How little are you willing to work for?”
If the answer is $8/hour then Allen is in. Otherwise, the search continues.
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Did it ever occur to you that this hiring is his first big step. If he screws up it will set him back. He has to get the right guy in on his first try. He wants to know that this guy can lead this team. I don’t think it has anything to do with money. Give the man a little more credit than that!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Did Mark Davis go for the Dumb & Dumber look in order to distract attention from McGinger’s inability to articulate ideas properly?
January 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Just like Hue, there’s a reason Gruden isn’t coaching.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Jerry, still nuzzling Hue’s bikini-waxed crotch says..”Defensive collapses against Buffalo, Denver and San Diego in the season finale helped keep the Raiders out of the playoffs.”
No mention of the offensive collapses against Miami and Green Bay where we were outscored 68-0 in those two first halves.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Jerry > Corky
Keep up the good work Jer!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Just like Hue, there’s a reason Gruden isn’t coaching.
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With Hue, it’s because he’s stabbed everyone in the back.
With Gruden, it’s because he gets more money for less work as a broadcaster.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
# No Mas Diamante Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
If Reggie says it’s Allen then I’m behind Allen. Not sure I understand all the negativity in here towards Reggie. Give the man a chance.
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Oh Reggie and his head coach will get their chance.
We it be the same chance Hue got?
We’ll see….
January 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
Like Hue Jackson, Denver’s Defense only showed up once in the final five games!
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The Denver defense was on the field a lot thanks to their crappy quarterback play.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I have no problem with Allen as our HC. If it means instilling discipline and attn to detail on D, i’m all in!
Think Reggie would lose it if this was all a sick and twisted joke by Elway. Allen backs out after Reggie offers him a job, like McCoy walked. LOL
January 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
# I am Spartacus Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
No mention of the offensive collapses against Miami and Green Bay where we were outscored 68-0 in those two first halves.
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Those are just team collapses in general.
The team would have had a chance though in Miami, if the D didn’t let Matt Moore have his way with them.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Wouldn’t be surprise to find out that the Reggie haters are racist.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
# jmcneal333 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I just hope that the Raiders retain Al Saunders as the Offensive Coordinator. He knows the team and they know his offense. We need to keep going in the direction that we are going in there.
^^^^^^^^^
I agree. If Allen or Moss or mystery guy wind up with the gig, than there is no point in switching to a new offensive terminology and bringing in a whole new offensive coaching staff.
Keep Saunders, Wylie, Wiz and even that Penguin looking RB coach Skipper.
I think Bones Fassel should stay also.
Allen and Bones can have a competition and see who can get bigger and stronger and gain the most weight before training camp! LOL!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Time will tell with all this. Just think it’s stupid to start out hating on the guy so early in the game. but I guess that’s just football…
January 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
KK Munster, did you see MR admit you and him have gay sex last night? Don’t shoot the messenger its in the blog…
lol
January 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
23.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Did Mark Davis go for the Dumb & Dumber look in order to distract attention from McGinger’s inability to articulate ideas properly?
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Troll or MR.
Go screw yourself.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I just picture our “D”, and those on its roster – losers, rejects, submissive, non-playmakers, something the bag lady scrounged in the local dumpster; includes Chuckie too.
And Hue the Pimpin Magnificient didn’t have the courage to stand up to AL, (nor the smarts to manipulate him)regarding the D, a dissapated old fart, delusional, who showed up half-dead in public with oozing facial sores.
I see members of the “D” as lady-boys, gay, mouth kissing with Jerry Sandusky, his pants down around his ankles, and it makes me sick.
Just think about the the ebony sub-moron McClain, who Pimpin proclaimed as Captain of the “D”. He gains a $25M contract and is arrested for gunplay on his x-high school friend when he was supposed to attending his grandfather’s funeral.
If you wonder why we lost those leads consider the sub-moron described above: complete lack of intelligence and football savvy, beady little animal eyes, sluffed off chiny and a nasty goatee.
Welcome to gay world: Oakland’s “D”; the sub-moron, boyd, shepard, worthless cb’s and defensive line, and most of all a DC, washed up and worthless in and of himself.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Chris I am really disappointed in your posts, you keep carrying a torch for the egomaniac ex-car salesman of a coach, did you happen to give hue his pedi?
January 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RMK
Please do not butcher the English language!!!
“Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.”
There is no such word form as “irregardless”.
Regardless of such verbiage, get a coach that will butcher opponents.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
When Tebow kept winning, half of you guys kept coming on here saying that it wasn’t Tebow it was all because Denver’s defense was doing it.
Now you say Denver’s defense sucks.
They were 20th, we were 29th.
Hell a defensive HC would make a change since the last one was Madden at 32.
Personally I was hoping for an experienced HC but at least he’s a DC.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Chas Malloy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RMK
Please do not butcher the English language!!!
“Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.”
There is no such word form as “irregardless”.
Regardless of such verbiage, get a coach that will butcher opponents.
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He’s a former LineBacker. Not a college professor.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
News Flash – UPI Reports:
Joe Paterno was found in his casket within the mortuary which contracted with the Paterno family to carry out the late Mr. Paterno’s internment, this afternoon approximately 3:21 p.m. (e.s.t.). Mr. Paterno’s pants were reportedly pulled down around his ankles. When a mortuary representative investigated Mr. Paterno’s condition Jerry Sandusky was discovered concealed underneath the casket. After security was called Mr. Sandusky allegedly fled the the building, and drove away at a high rate of speed in his car. The police were notified and are now seeking the whereabouts of Mr. Sandusky for questioning.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
KK Munster, did you see MR admit you and him have gay sex last night? Don’t shoot the messenger its in the blog…
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Get a Life, dumbass.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
News Flash – UPI Reports:
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Wasnt funny the 1st time you posted it.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
News Update – UPI:
Jerry Sandusky has been apprehended at an unidentified location near Penn State which presiding law enforcement officials have described as a “homosexual lovenest” consisting of a small guesthouse.
As reported earlier Sandusky fled the mortuary responsible for the internment of Joe Paterno after Paterno was discovered lying in his casket with his slacks pulled down around his knees. When authorities were notified of the situation and came on scene Sandusky ran from the funeral parlour and exited it by car.
Acting on a tip from an anonymous caller, police then raided Sandusky’s alleged lovenest and found him there, along with two black men, one, whom police identified as Hue Jackson, former head coach of the Oakland Raiders, and a second man, who identied himself as, “Boyd, Jerome Boyd.” All those present in the “lovenest” were naked from the waist down.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
al d. davis Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
News Flash – UPI Reports:
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Wasnt funny the 1st time you posted it.
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Haven’t Sandusky jokes kind of run their course? Multiple times?
January 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NOOOOO0000000oooooooooooooo! To Oakland Raiders moving to LA in LA Times poll
January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I personally would have no problem with scrapping saunders or the hu jack /suanders offense. Dont get me wrong I think it is a good system, but Im not sure who needs the so called continuity. We are not looking at a situation where we have a qb locked as our franchise starter over the next 4-5 years. Our qb is only a stop gap, so changing systems is not a big deal.
Big mack and his new coach will install what they like, then we will be drafting a qb in 2013 as the man for the future. Who cares if palmer likes it or doesnt like it, he played like crap last year.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
cfrylopez Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NOOOOO0000000oooooooooooooo! To Oakland Raiders moving to LA in LA Times poll
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January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
When Tebow kept winning, half of you guys kept coming on here saying that it wasn’t Tebow it was all because Denver’s defense was doing it.
Now you say Denver’s defense sucks.
They were 20th, we were 29th.
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ENGLAND,
I gave all the credit to Tim Tebow. In fact, I still do
I think that team would have only won 4 games with Kyle Orton or Brady Quinn at QB.
…but that doesn’t mean I think Dennis Allen is a terrible coach or think he’d fail here!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Here we go ’round the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush……
January 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
39.Chas Malloy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RMK
Please do not butcher the English language!!!
“Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.”
There is no such word form as “irregardless”.
Regardless of such verbiage, get a coach that will butcher opponents.
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Actually, the word “irregardless” is commonly used in place of regardless and the reality that it is used frequently makes it acceptable.
The great thing about English is that it is a living, changing, language.
It is usuage that determines whether a word is proper or not.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Or usage. But ya.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
ESPN sucks, they are part of the group trying to move the Oakland Raiders to LA
January 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Bottom line we need someone who is a disciplinarian……end of story I am dying to see a defense that is intense and focused, our offense is not the issue guys!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Chas Malloy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RMK
Please do not butcher the English language!!!
“Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.”
There is no such word form as “irregardless”.
Regardless of such verbiage, get a coach that will butcher opponents.
What do you really expect from a Black?
January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
You don’t have to be racist to realize Reggie isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. However doesn’t mean he can’t evaluate talent and coaches which is more important. Al Davis was very bright and he whiffed on coaches and players often
January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I personally would have no problem with scrapping saunders or the hu jack /suanders offense. Dont get me wrong I think it is a good system, but Im not sure who needs the so called continuity. We are not looking at a situation where we have a qb locked as our franchise starter over the next 4-5 years. Our qb is only a stop gap, so changing systems is not a big deal.
Big mack and his new coach will install what they like, then we will be drafting a qb in 2013 as the man for the future. Who cares if palmer likes it or doesnt like it, he played like crap last year.
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Palmer may only be a stop gap but who is to say he could not take us deep into the playoffs. He has NEVER had this much talent around him. Add the fact that RUN DMC is in a contract year and that offense could be one of the most dangerous in the league. The best thing we can do is keep what is working.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I dont care if the statement starts with LA or Oakland, as long as it ends with Super Bowl Champs.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
ENGLAND,
I gave all the credit to Tim Tebow. In fact, I still do
I think that team would have only won 4 games with Kyle Orton or Brady Quinn at QB.
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RRS:
Yeah, I know you did brother and I agree with you on the latter.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
John Tweedy is hanging out on the Raiders board before he heads off to his cross-burning.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
KK Munster, did you see MR admit you and him have gay sex last night? Don’t shoot the messenger its in the blog…
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Get a Life, dumbass.
Link? Proof?
January 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Here’s an article on Allen.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18875430
January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
offense may not be an issue, but it shouldn’t be an obstacle either. I for one would not be upset with big mack if he decided to change direction with the offense, our stop gap qb should not be considered in the equation. Pick the coach and pick your offense, install it and draft for it over the next few years.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Ohhh….the “mystery candidate” ? haha…Come on Paul Gutierrez stop trying to create unecessary suspense with that ‘mystery candidate” crap.
Cut the BS Paul!
January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
offense may not be an issue, but it shouldn’t be an obstacle either. I for one would not be upset with big mack if he decided to change direction with the offense, our stop gap qb should not be considered in the equation. Pick the coach and pick your offense, install it and draft for it over the next few years.
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Agreed.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
That poll on the Raiders moving south in the LA Times is about 50/50.
You put that same poll in an Inland Empire paper and it would be Raider dominated.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
John Tweedy is hanging out on the Raiders board before he heads off to his cross-burning.
No, I don’t do that. Why would I? I have no Beef with Christ.
That was a dumb thing to say, you must be a small brained darky too.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
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Sounds like that Herrera charm is rubbing off on Reggie!!
January 24th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
You don’t have to be racist to realize Reggie isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Reggie comes highly recommended by Ron Wolf. You are the dumbass.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
jmcneal333 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I personally would have no problem with scrapping saunders or the hu jack /suanders offense. Dont get me wrong I think it is a good system, but Im not sure who needs the so called continuity. We are not looking at a situation where we have a qb locked as our franchise starter over the next 4-5 years. Our qb is only a stop gap, so changing systems is not a big deal.
Big mack and his new coach will install what they like, then we will be drafting a qb in 2013 as the man for the future. Who cares if palmer likes it or doesnt like it, he played like crap last year.
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Palmer may only be a stop gap but who is to say he could not take us deep into the playoffs. He has NEVER had this much talent around him. Add the fact that RUN DMC is in a contract year and that offense could be one of the most dangerous in the league. The best thing we can do is keep what is working.
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I think he had incredibly talented cast in cincy, they underachieved. Palmer was in the same offense for years in cincy, but was still turn over prone.
If you are going a new direction on offense, do it now. Dont waste a year of our rebuild with an offense and qb that will not be around for the long term. Do it all at once so 2013 wont be starting over on offense, and we can hit the ground running, system in place ready to groom geno smith to take the helm
January 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
48.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I personally would have no problem with scrapping saunders or the hu jack /suanders offense. Dont get me wrong I think it is a good system, but Im not sure who needs the so called continuity. We are not looking at a situation where we have a qb locked as our franchise starter over the next 4-5 years. Our qb is only a stop gap, so changing systems is not a big deal.
Big mack and his new coach will install what they like, then we will be drafting a qb in 2013 as the man for the future. Who cares if palmer likes it or doesnt like it, he played like crap last year.
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I Quit reading after the Palmer is just a stop gap QB.
Who would you rather have as QB for the next 4 years? Let me guess, Campbell?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
offense may not be an issue, but it shouldn’t be an obstacle either. I for one would not be upset with big mack if he decided to change direction with the offense, our stop gap qb should not be considered in the equation. Pick the coach and pick your offense, install it and draft for it over the next few years.
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oh no here we go with CP JC debate. Why don’t we just start Pryor to prove to the world a brother can play QB!
January 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Here comes Mistic1 with his Palmer hating blather.
zzzzzzzzzz
January 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Repost
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Sullivan44 Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
MR, where is your spooning partner KK?
Making you some dinner and then dim the lights ?
……….
Are you jealous that we get romantic and take it slow, while Brien just crawls through your window drunk at 3am and rapes you?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
You don’t have to be racist to realize Reggie isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Reggie comes highly recommended by Ron Wolf. You are the dumbass.
Why r u a Racist KoolKell??
January 24th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
John Tweedy is hanging out on the Raiders board before he heads off to his cross-burning.
No, I don’t do that. Why would I? I have no Beef with Christ.
That was a dumb thing to say, you must be a small brained darky too.
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Cross-burning is a KKK practice. If you’re really that ignorant about what your alleged spiritual brothers and sisters do, then you’re not really racist, just pretending to be one.
In other words: Obvious troll is obvious.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
If Manning is cut by the Colts due to his pending $28 million dollar option bonus, where will he end up?
49ers?
Jets?
Tennessee?
Washington?
Arizona?
Seattle?
Hate to say it, but I think his best shot at winning more SBs would be with the 49ers, and maybe the Jets.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Mannings ending his career back home in Tenn
January 24th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
80.inonewordraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Mannings ending his career back home in Tenn
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They have some talent….Britt and Washington would be on my FF team if they signed Peyton….and CJ getting those screens….watch out.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Did you hear Eli on the thought of Peyton playing in NY for the Jets…paraphrase: he digs it…
January 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
There is a video clip of Paul G interviewing Dennis Allen on CSNCalifornia.com. This guy looks impressive, confident in his answers and not so much of an empty talk like Hue Jackson.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
whats up with post 62, is Tweedy really MR?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
umm guys, you are getting stuck on palmer, but my post is about the offense and if saunders should be retained.
To be clear i only believe retaining suanders is a must if big mack feels that this is the offense he wants moving forward. This decision should be strictly based on big macks and the new coaches vision. This should in no way take into account the current personnel, that includes the often injured dmac and the stop gap starter palmer.
Saying palmer is a stop gap isnt about what i think of him as a player. rather it is the most accurate description of qb brought in by a now defunct regime.
If big mack feels he wants a different offense, I say go for it, regardless of the current roster of players. the roster will be turned over to fit the new regimes liking anyway.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
harbaugh talking about Cali
“Is it just California that everybody just wants to know how you feel? Care about what you thought, what you did, how you felt, how your pinky feels. Is that just a California thing? Back where I come from, nobody really cares. In my opinion, it is a California thing.”
January 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
KK Munster, 1 year ago you thought Hue Jack walked on water. Now you are blindly hitching your wagon to another “unknown”. And I thought tj was the blind homer.
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KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Reggie comes highly recommended by Ron Wolf. You are the dumbass.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
All I know is we are entering a new ERRRA!
January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
KK Munster, 1 year ago you thought Hue Jack walked on water. Now you are blindly hitching your wagon to another “unknown”. And I thought tj was the blind homer.
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I don’t think anybody cares what you think, I certainly don’t. IG-nert boy.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Well, they said Allen’s second interview would be “this evening,” and it’s now past 6PM in Mobile. Hopefully, we’ll have an informal announcement TONIGHT.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
harbaugh talking about Cali
“Is it just California that everybody just wants to know how you feel? Care about what you thought, what you did, how you felt, how your pinky feels. Is that just a California thing? Back where I come from, nobody really cares. In my opinion, it is a California thing.”
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LMAO!
Man, I really wanted Al Davis to get this guy as HC and kept coming on here to say so but unbelievably Al Davis completly ignored me.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
48.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I personally would have no problem with scrapping saunders or the hu jack /suanders offense. Dont get me wrong I think it is a good system, but Im not sure who needs the so called continuity. We are not looking at a situation where we have a qb locked as our franchise starter over the next 4-5 years. Our qb is only a stop gap, so changing systems is not a big deal.
Big mack and his new coach will install what they like, then we will be drafting a qb in 2013 as the man for the future. Who cares if palmer likes it or doesnt like it, he played like crap last year.
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I Quit reading after the Palmer is just a stop gap QB.
Who would you rather have as QB for the next 4 years?
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why does the term stop gap bother you? Hu jack brought him in as a temporary solution and a potential long term upgrade, he proved to be neither.
The coach and personnel guy that brought him here, hu jack is gone. This places palmer in a spot where he must now prove he is the long term answer, as opposed to being the assumed long term answer.
this maybe a sore spot for palmer fans, but being objective his status and tenure are up in the air. hence the term stop gap
January 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
76.. Lmao. . Classic!!
January 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Oh god
““We’re going to be built off speed and athleticism. We want to be a very fast, violent, aggressive type of defense.’’
That’s what every defense strives to be. That’s nothing new.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Comedy hour in here
January 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Vote NO! 2 the RAIDERS MOVING TO LA IN LA TIMES POLL
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
January 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I really hope Reggie dumps Palmer. I think he will once he sees how talented Pryor is. A lot of you guys are really underestimating Pryor. Kid is gonna ball.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Mistic… I would agree with you if Palmer was no longer our qb. . But if Reggie and the new coach are looking at him as our qb for the next 3-4 seasons.. continuity on offense would be good. I do think Carson Palmer needs to restructure his contract though..
January 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
cfrylopez Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Vote NO! 2 the RAIDERS MOVING TO LA IN LA TIMES POLL
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
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So what’s everyone’s favorite SPAM flavor? I like the bacon-flavored myself.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
What is a IG-nert boy? Some kind of govt cheese slang ?
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KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I don’t think anybody cares what you think, I certainly don’t. IG-nert boy
January 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I really hope you swallow clorox.
Pryor is in a VERY nice spot right now. He is not getting thrown to the wolves. He can come along slowly behind Palmer like Rogers did with Favre. When he is ready then he will push Palmer out.
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TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I really hope Reggie dumps Palmer. I think he will once he sees how talented Pryor is. A lot of you guys are really underestimating Pryor. Kid is gonna ball.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
“Irregardless”is not a word.This is so irritating to me,regardless is the word. Please tell me that was a misquote. We don’t need an illiterate GM.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Tp.. I totally agree man… I think Pryor is going to surprise a lot of people. . I just hope we don’t trade him or throw him out with the garbage… he’s going to be good. He just needs time. ..
January 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Here’s a pretty good pick of Dennis Allen:
http://bit.ly/AxUYmU
January 24th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Yeah, that’s brilliant. Let’s dump Palmer after giving up a king’s ransom for him.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
ghostraiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Mistic… I would agree with you if Palmer was no longer our qb. . But if Reggie and the new coach are looking at him as our qb for the next 3-4 seasons.. continuity on offense would be good. I do think Carson Palmer needs to restructure his contract though..
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I think it would be short sighted to lock in an offense based on palmers 3-4 years. He may not even get that far along in a silver and black uniform.
I would much rather have big mack and the new coach decide on the offense they want to see here over the next 10 years. This would allow them to draft and sign free agents that can grow in the system, rather than holding off on their vision for an aging qb, that didnt fare well in this offense last year.
besides big mack made it clear in his presser when asked about the qb that palmer is no lock to be here beyond next season. The very first words out of big macks mouth when questioned said it all. “i like my own players”
January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Tp.. I totally agree man… I think Pryor is going to surprise a lot of people. . I just hope we don’t trade him or throw him out with the garbage… he’s going to be good. He just needs time. ..
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That’s what I am talking about. Pryor is going to make everyone forget about Tebow.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
souldogdave Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
“Irregardless”is not a word.This is so irritating to me,regardless is the word. Please tell me that was a misquote. We don’t need an illiterate GM.
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Irregardless of what you think, I continue to believe this word is appropriate. I will not be undeterred.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Well, you won’t have an owner meddling with game time decisions, drafting track stars with zero football skills, forcing the coaches to use press man coverage, etc. No matter what there’s an organizational improvement. But this still stinks.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER says
Actually, the word “irregardless” is commonly used in place of regardless and the reality that it is used frequently makes it acceptable.
Proper or not,you are kidding…. sorry language[s] have rules that actually make the use of non-words unacceptable and in this case regrettable due in part that the Highest ranking football executive of the Oakland Raiders was the person to utter the non-word.
As for your assertion The OED states but the negative prefix ir- merely duplicates the suffix -less, and is unnecessary. The word dates back to the 19th century, but is regarded as incorrect in standard English.
Perhaps you should take up Esperanto, which is a living, changing, language
January 24th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Questions Reggie needs to ask prospective HC Allen:
When you were scheming against us, how are you going to use that now to benefit us?
Are you gonna allow the players to remain loose, or do you take away the ‘helmet squatting’ like Shanohananohanohan (sp?) did?
Would you like Chuck to remain as the DC or will you act as the DC? (trick question)
Will you spill the beans on John Fox? And can I expect you to beat his offense?
I like that your being chosen from with in our division because you already know three of our opponents that constitute six games. Can you guarentee me a 6-0 afc west conference record?
I want dirt on the Broncos. Do you need a whellbarrow?
Buy me dinner and you got the job.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
MB, are you and Brien a prison thing, or is it true love?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
I really like Allen hire. Word is he could be the next Bill Belichick.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
What could dennis allen mean for pryor? having seen tebow in his spread option live evry week, i would be interested in allens take on that offensive style.
personally i would prefer a spread attack but a much more pass oriented version, like the one cam newton runs. Or the offense they run in oregon, or clemson or west virginia. i just believe that with all of our speed guys this would be a natural fit. Of course you need an athletic qb to run it, and palmer wouldnt fit that mold at all.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Then again he could be the next Josh McDaniel.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Allen-impressed-with-Raiders-excited-for?blockID=637482&feedID=5885&awid=5067572019774332594-766
Latest Allen interview. Dude speaks very well.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
huh huh. huh. He said “spread”
January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
My earlier assertion that the Raiders bring back Marc Trestman as HC was a good one, except that he will be going to the Colts from recent reports today. Big miss he would have been a great hire
January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Defensive head coach! Fukc yeah!!!! He could suck balls it would still be cool to have a defensive head coach. Have we even had one since Madden was promoted from linebacker coach? Mi gusto.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
I don’t think Palmer will last all year. Probably get injured. Pryor will probably step in and never look back. Get ready to witness greatness.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
souldogdave Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
“Irregardless”is not a word.This is so irritating to me,regardless is the word. Please tell me that was a misquote. We don’t need an illiterate GM.
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This from Webster…
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Here is Allen at the Senior Bowl…. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/01/quick-blast-on-dennis-allen-from-senior.html
January 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
“We played them twice this past year,” Allen said. :I think they’re an outstanding organization and it would be an honor to be able to work for them.”
Well, he better hope he lands the job because when Elway hears this he might get fired from the Broncos!
January 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
VOTE NO TO THE RAIDERS MOVING TO LA
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
January 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
You have to excuse Big Mac. Too much time with the hokies in GB.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Chas Malloy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
My earlier assertion that the Raiders bring back Marc Trestman as HC was a good one, except that he will be going to the Colts from recent reports today. Big miss he would have been a great hire
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agreed, i love the ghost reverse motion offense. It would have fit nicely with all of our speed demon receivers
January 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
souldogdave Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
“Irregardless”is not a word.This is so irritating to me,regardless is the word. Please tell me that was a misquote. We don’t need an illiterate GM.
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Irregardless of what you think, I continue to believe this word is appropriate. I will not be undeterred.
Duck check out my post 110, and if undeterred still take up Esperanto as well
January 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
No stupid LA Times poll will have any baring on whether or not a move will happen.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
cfrylopez Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
VOTE NO TO THE RAIDERS MOVING TO LA
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
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The no is now in the lead. Keep up the good work my fellow voting bloggers. Vote NO. Raiders need Oakland and Oakland needs the Raiders. LA not good place for the Raiders.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
per wiki….get this guy in here already bigmac.
Allen was a highly-recruited defensive back at L. D. Bell High School in Hurst, Texas before choosing to follow in his father’s footsteps and play for Texas A&M. Allen was a 4-year letterman for the Aggies as a safety from 1992-1995. He started the final 21 games of his career on the top-rated Texas A&M “Wrecking Crew” defense
January 24th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
in fact i think the only players that should be considered when deciding on our offense should be our young line men, and receivers.
Dmac has proven tooo fragile to count on, plamer is only a band aid and has maxed out his potential.
our young wr group and line men still have a ways to go before they hit their ceiling. I would build around these components based on age and upside. everyone else would be expendable
January 24th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
109.Sullivan44 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Well, you won’t have an owner meddling with game time decisions, drafting track stars with zero football skills, forcing the coaches to use press man coverage, etc. No matter what there’s an organizational improvement. But this still stinks.
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MR = necrophiliac.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Mistic, aren’t you glad McKenzie and Allen will be making the call on Palmer, and not Al Davis?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
any bets on where jasoup lands?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Davy, I’m not a necrophiliac. Your mom and sister are alive and well.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
here is the only highlight I can find on our potential hc at A&M. He is number 39 and a starter for The Wrecking Crew.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=p8JX0w9VGOM#t=271s
January 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Soup will be a backup somewhere.
His best bet would be the Jets, IMO.
He is going to be disappointed at his value in the FA market.
Good enough to get a look, but not good enough and too old to get the keys to the organization like he had his first two organizations.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Allen was with the Wrecking Crew? With Dr. Dre and DJ Yella?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Hey Hue, firing your dumb azz and hiring the DC from the division champs, was the greatest coaching change in NFL history.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
besides being similar in stature, Reggie realizes the impact Raji has on the D, and that’s a VERY good thing
January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Mistic, aren’t you glad McKenzie and Allen will be making the call on Palmer, and not Al Davis?
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sorry sully, im a huge Al Davis fan. I loved his hand picked qb Jason Campbell. i loved the fact that he didnt sell the farm for palmer and vetoed hu jack original overtures.
I am eager to see what big mack has up his sleeve though. I like big mack and i will not view his regime as being juxtaposed to davis. he is a raider and groomed and trained by ron wolf. I see it more as an update or amended version of the Al Davis system.
Nope, big mack and al davis are not in conflict in my view.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Well, all Allen has to do to prove he’s better than Hue is win 9 games. No pressure.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Soup will be a backup somewhere.
His best bet would be the Jets, IMO.
He is going to be disappointed at his value in the FA market.
Good enough to get a look, but not good enough and too old to get the keys to the organization like he had his first two organizations.
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very possible
January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I just hope that whoever Reggie hires is given time to develop this team and bring stability and accountability.
I am tired of changing every year. Why should the players care or listen to the Coach considering there will be a new one next season?
If Allen is hired and he doesn’t make the playoffs next season, will the organization, fans, and media give him time to instil changes or will it be the same culture of instability we’ve seen over the last decade?
January 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
139.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Hey Hue, firing your dumb azz and hiring the DC from the division champs, was the greatest coaching change in NFL history.
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Why are you so emotionally attached to Hue? He’s gone. Get over it.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Raiders win anything less than 9, Hue will be smiling.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Chas Malloy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
souldogdave Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
“Irregardless”is not a word.This is so irritating to me,regardless is the word. Please tell me that was a misquote. We don’t need an illiterate GM.
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Irregardless of what you think, I continue to believe this word is appropriate. I will not be undeterred.
Duck check out my post 110, and if undeterred still take up Esperanto as well
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Don’t know if you’re a “Sopranos” fan, but I cribbed the “I will not be undeterred” line from when Tony tries to ask Melfi out on a date.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
What is a IG-nert boy? Some kind of govt cheese slang ?
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KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I don’t think anybody cares what you think, I certainly don’t. IG-nert boy
Anyone else find it funny Jamista Jig boy shows up at the meat mention of Gov. Cheese?
Must be in the genes.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Soup will be a stop gap for someone that drafts a QB in the first or 2nd round this year.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
hmmmm. Donkey D did improve substancially in 1 year.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
besides being similar in stature, Reggie realizes the impact Raji has on the D, and that’s a VERY good thing
And Both are colored. So you know what that means…
January 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Wasbanned-the organization will,but I doubt the fans will.Half of the fans on here want him fired and he hasn’t even gotten the job yet.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
110.Chas Malloy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER says
Actually, the word “irregardless” is commonly used in place of regardless and the reality that it is used frequently makes it acceptable.
Proper or not,you are kidding…. sorry language[s] have rules that actually make the use of non-words unacceptable and in this case regrettable due in part that the Highest ranking football executive of the Oakland Raiders was the person to utter the non-word.
As for your assertion The OED states but the negative prefix ir- merely duplicates the suffix -less, and is unnecessary. The word dates back to the 19th century, but is regarded as incorrect in standard English.
Perhaps you should take up Esperanto, which is a living, changing, language
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MR:
Amazing how many times you can be wrong MR.
English is a living, changing, language and a word that was once deemed unacceptable becomes acceptable upon common use.
You would know this if you actually spoke English.
Another word that has gained currency through common usuage is dikhead and it so aptly describes you.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
If Dennie Allen it is, then so be it. I trust that John Madden and Ron Wolf didn’t draw a name from a cap when selecting Reggie Mckenzie to be our G.M. He’s been associated with an organazation that has been winning for quite awhile now, something we aren’t accustomed to doing.
Him not hiring Moss, goes to show you that you aren’t going to be granted the head coaching position, just cause. Obviously, Winston didn’t say the correct things that Reggie would want to hear from a potential head coach. Interested in seeing who would come in as assistants.
Go Raiders!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Allen was with the Wrecking Crew? With Dr. Dre and DJ Yella?
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Sully! lol Thats awesome
January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
2012: Pryor 2,400 yards passing 800 yards rushing 16 TD 10 INT 6 Rushing TDS
January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Bowles for DC?
January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Seems like Sanders is staying if he’s at the Senior Bowl with Reggie and the scouts.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
I agree, Aig and JFB. Soup would make a great stop gap or backup. Wish he’d stay here in case of injury.
He’ll surely test the waters but unless he gets picked up by Seattle, pickings will be slim.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
2012: Pryor 2,400 yards passing 800 yards rushing 16 TD 10 INT 6 Rushing TDS
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Seriously…STFU with this crap.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I hope Saunders does stay. Bowles for D.C would make me one very happy Raider fan.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Hey Hue, firing your dumb azz and hiring the DC from the division champs, was the greatest coaching change in NFL history.
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No doubt that Reggie got his information about Allen from Raider Sleeper agent: Paige Green….deep cover.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Vote NO & Keep the RAIDERS IN OAKLAND
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
January 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Breaking News:
JOE BUGEL HIRED AS HEAD COACH
lubbockonline.com/news/013197/oraiders.htm
January 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
raiderdav Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Breaking News:
JOE BUGEL HIRED AS HEAD COACH
lubbockonline.com/news/013197/oraiders.htm
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Nice try, but we can read the date in the link.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
CFRYLOPEZ STOP it already you douche, did anyone tell you that its just a Poll? your vote doesnt count fking moron.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Here’s Harbuckle for you in his Monday Whine Session, er I mean presser…
“In my opinion, that was a fumble,” 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said during his news conference Monday. “I’m sure the league will defend it and the officials will defend it. But to me, that play was still going on. There was still struggling by Bradshaw. … I felt like it was analogous with the tuck rule.”
that is weak sauce. but that Dbag always was weak sauce….
January 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I am excited to see Hue speak here in about 45 minutes.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
LOL at #166. Still laughing….
January 24th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
qb predictions for 2012
Indy-Luck
Vikings-Ponder
Cleveland-RGIII
Skins- Flynn
Jags-Gabbert
Titans-Peyton
Miami- JC
KC-Cassell
Seattle-Jackson
January 24th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
if i would have had to watch brady vs the niners in the superbowl I would have dropped dead on the spot
January 24th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Ddsman Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
2012: Pryor 2,400 yards passing 800 yards rushing 16 TD 10 INT 6 Rushing TDS
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Seriously…STFU with this crap.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You need to STFU and open your eyes. Pryor is our future. The future starts now.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Does this mean Bowles is still an option?
January 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
im curioes to know what happens to russel wilson and darron thomas, they could be good picks late in the draft
January 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Him not hiring Moss, goes to show you that you aren’t going to be granted the head coaching position, just cause
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very important point
January 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
What Harbuckle refuses to acknowledge is that linesman was ALL OVER that call. He started blowing his whistle and pointing at the ground immediately upon deciding that forward progress had stopped (which it had, clearly) and the runner was just being mugged.
It was NOTHING like the Brady fumble caused by ChasWoodson. NOTHING analogous whatsoever. Even my mom knows that was a legit ref call you crybaby douche Harbuckle. But then you always have been a crybaby douche haven’t you?
January 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
qb predictions for 2012
Indy-Luck
Vikings-Ponder
Cleveland-RGIII
Skins- Flynn
Jags-Gabbert
Titans-Peyton
Miami- JC
KC-Cassell
Seattle-Jackson
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What happens to Jake Locker?
January 24th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Can’t stop Pryor
you are a liar
#6 is gonna take us higher..higher…higher…higher
he runs so fast he throws so hard
wide receivers going to be running out the yard
January 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
I’m out. Pryor for 2012 MUP!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Darren Thomas will be picked up by the Bronco’s in the 5th round to backup Tebow, and Russell Wilson should stick to baseball.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
What happens to Jake Locker?
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my guess he has to wait his turn with Peyton running the show for a few years…
January 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Can’t stop Pryor
you are a liar
#6 is gonna take us higher..higher…higher…higher
he runs so fast he throws so hard
wide receivers going to be running out the yard
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Really would be a nice story, Al Davis’s last draft pick…hope the Raiders put some effort into turning him into a legit NFL QB.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Terrell Pryor has a greater chance of being cut after the preseason than starting any games the next 2 years.
New GM is not pot-committed to any of our draft picks, from Rolando, to MM34, to Pryor.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Imagine Manning in a Raider jersey::::lol Ahhh, that was quick.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
I don’t see how Peyton lands anywhere but with the Jets.
They will gladly overpay for him.
Irsay said that he will not trade Peyton. Either keep him or cut him.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Bradshaw no-fumble analogous to the tuck rule? Al must be spinning in his grave! Nobody even remembers the play, you heard the whistle before he was stripped…tuck rule…you dont know zhit about the tuck rule!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I would over pay for Manning. Dude won 10+ games for 10+ seasons, take him away and they get the 1st pick in the draft! thats how worthless your pro-bowlers (reggie wayne, dallas clark, dwight freeney, etc) are!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
MR,
KK saw your post from last night and didn’t even protest or get angry. Yawl must have a real strong relationship.
haha
January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
cfrylopez Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Vote NO & Keep the RAIDERS IN OAKLAND
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
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For those of you who think this poll means nothing: if I’m investing and developing and I see a fan base opposed to the move, I sure as hell ain’t gonna build for them. Get a clue. Vote NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Too late you have one.
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Souldogdave Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Please tell me that was a misquote. We don’t need an illiterate GM.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Raidah 101 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
cfrylopez Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Vote NO & Keep the RAIDERS IN OAKLAND
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
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For those of you who think this poll means nothing: if I’m investing and developing and I see a fan base opposed to the move, I sure as hell ain’t gonna build for them. Get a clue. Vote NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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And the minute they get wind that a bunch of Oakland residents are deliberately logging in and skewing the results, the poll loses any validity it may have had.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
173.BewareofRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Does this mean Bowles is still an option?
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Your darn right Bowles is still an option, Moss is also still in the running.
Its not over yet folks!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Jason Campbell going to Seattle or Miami most likely. Maybe to Jags also.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
173.BewareofRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Does this mean Bowles is still an option?
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Your darn right Bowles is still an option, Moss is also still in the running.
Its not over yet folks!!!
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Actually, Moss has been told he’s out. It’s either Allen or Bowles at this point. I’d LOVE to see both (with Bowles at DC).
January 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Bowles was the token Rooney interview.
Nothing more, nothing less.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
If Allen or Moss get the gig, then I would rather see Bowles or Trgovac be the DC’s than Richard Smith??
Ooff…
January 24th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Jason Campbell going to Seattle
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So when Soup takes a few shots at Hue on his way back to reuniting with Cable, can we blame the Gradkowski experiment on Hue Jackson?
January 24th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Jason Campbell going to Seattle
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So when Soup takes a few shots at Hue on his way back to reuniting with Cable, can we blame the Gradkowski experiment on Hue Jackson?
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Gradkowski? Soup? Cable? Hue? Who cares? They’re in the past. I’m more concerned with the future!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Hmmm…For a guy who went 2-1 almost 3-0 not even considered a DC spot interesting
Todd Bowles will not remain with the Dolphins organization in 2012.
New Packers coach Joe Philbin has decided not to retain Bowles, according to Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Bowles was the secondary coach (and interim head coach) in Miami last year, and was a finalist for the team’s head coaching job.
A favorite of management, it was believed that Miami’s front office supported Bowles getting the team’s defensive coordinator job. Philbin has discretion to hire his own staff, however, and will go in another direction.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/24/report-bowles-will-not-be-back-in-miami/
January 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
So when Soup takes a few shots at Hue on his way back to reuniting with Cable, can we blame the Gradkowski experiment on Hue Jackson?
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Turns out the Gradkowski experiment was really the HueJackson experiment. Grads was just used as a pawn in the big picture. Campbell was a casualty along the way. Hopefully we are now out of the lab and onto the field. Wonder who the lab rat was?
January 24th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Dennis Allen, Al Saunders…Al, still in the building! lol
January 24th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
CorkOnTheNFLSteve Corkran
Dennis Allen ran a 4-3 scheme with the Broncos, but he is well versed in defensive concepts after coaching under Greg Williams and John Fox.
5 hours ago FavoriteRetweetReply
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A Cork twit.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
194.RaiderDuck Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
173.BewareofRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Does this mean Bowles is still an option?
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Your darn right Bowles is still an option, Moss is also still in the running.
Its not over yet folks!!!
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Actually, Moss has been told he’s out. It’s either Allen or Bowles at this point. I’d LOVE to see both (with Bowles at DC).
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Actually, I just heard on ESPN Moss is still an option, theres also one more mystery guy. Im just guessing Bowles is the mystery one.
The report from Millwauke was half right, they did tell Capers he wasn’t going to be interviewed.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
199.BewareofRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Hmmm…For a guy who went 2-1 almost 3-0 not even considered a DC spot interesting
Todd Bowles will not remain with the Dolphins organization in 2012.
New Packers coach Joe Philbin has decided not to retain Bowles, according to Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Bowles was the secondary coach (and interim head coach) in Miami last year, and was a finalist for the team’s head coaching job.
A favorite of management, it was believed that Miami’s front office supported Bowles getting the team’s defensive coordinator job. Philbin has discretion to hire his own staff, however, and will go in another direction.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/24/report-bowles-will-not-be-back-in-miami/
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If Allen or Moss get the head gig, lets hope they consider Bowles as their DC!
January 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I am all in, geeked, and ready to let it rip with Dennis Allen.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I thought McClain was doing well his first couple of years, hitting hard (goodbye Sproles). But this last season he seemed to slow down a little. It might have been because of injury though, beleived he missed some time and just toughed it out before he healed. Looked to be playing hurt in the Buffalo game IMO.
He might have been adjusting to Breznahan stlye D though. But then there was the police stuff. His play also seemed to degenrate down the stretch, but again It was not his fault that Brez had him one-on-one with Megatron and V jackson (a hard assignment for DBs)
Hopefully RegMAC can evaluate him being a former LB and All. Would like to know what REGMAC thinks about ROMAC.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Well, what an uninspired pick Dennis Allen will be. Theres nothing really impressive about his resume and its not long at all.
Lets hope the coordinators are on point.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Well, what an uninspired pick Dennis Allen will be. Theres nothing really impressive about his resume and its not long at all.
Lets hope the coordinators are on point.
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Sounds like an awesome pick to me, especially the parts about detail-oriented and a disciplinarian. ANYTHING to get those drive-killing penalties down.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Come to think about it might be a good move for REGMAC to hire a former DB Coach for Headcoach. Reggie has an intimate knowledge about LBs and a DB coach, either Moss or Allen, would presumably have expertise coaching the secondary. They could team up to bring some REAL expertise on the defensive side of the ball.
As for Offense Saunder might be a good hire, or someone familiar with Palmer. Palmer is at the stage in his career where he does not need to be spoon-fed and can run the offense with input from a OC or HC.
If Reggie Mac and the new HC can get the Defense ready come week one. Watch out league!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
JLofty Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Here’s Harbuckle for you in his Monday Whine Session, er I mean presser…
“In my opinion, that was a fumble,” 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said during his news conference Monday. “I’m sure the league will defend it and the officials will defend it. But to me, that play was still going on. There was still struggling by Bradshaw. … I felt like it was analogous with the tuck rule.”
that is weak sauce. but that Dbag always was weak sauce….
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Ridiculous. Bradshaw’s forward progress was clearly stopped and Whiner defenders were shoving him backward. The play is over right there. Right call, really dumb for Harbaugh to argue. As for Brady, that was a “Snow Job”.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I still cant wait to see what TP looks like in preseason… I know everyone thinks he isnt good but the kid has serious potential. He has an arm and is mobile the kid loves football and his “ACCURACY ISSUES” arent as bad as led on to….. TP has more potential in the NFL then TEBOW
January 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
209-Good post bro-chacho!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Well, what an uninspired pick Dennis Allen will be. Theres nothing really impressive about his resume and its not long at all.
Lets hope the coordinators are on point.
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I agree. Kid Allen is going to need to hire good-great coordinators and assistant coaches and hope he stays away from the inexperienced coaches and the Chuck Bresnahan types as his assistants.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Terrell’s accuracy problems are very much as bad as advertised.
Guy blew chunks vs Miami, USC, Iowa, Wisconsin… completed less than half his passes vs real defenses.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
TP has more potential in the NFL then TEBOW
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Is that why he was a 3rd rounder and Tebow was a 1st rounder?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
If Pryor played this season at Ohio State, and then entered this draft, he’d be a 1st rounder. Period. Hes gonna learn under Palmer, just like Rodgers under Favre. And Im sure Dennis Allen, if hired, would like to see what he can get out of a mobile QB that can ACTUALLY throw, after seein how Tebow was able to throw defenses off track.
I think the Raiders are in a much better position, QB wise, then people think. If it goes right, this QB thing can transition beautifully from Palmer to Pryor, in the next few.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
If Pryor played this season at Ohio State, and then entered this draft, he’d be a 1st rounder. Period.
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LOL
If Al didn’t take him in the 3rd, he might have lasted until the 5th.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
raidertalk
there’s a reason most top coaches weren’t NFL players. Being great at something and being able to TEACH something are two completely separate things.
I don’t think I want McKenzie trying to “teach” our LBs modern schemes just because he played the position 4 decades ago.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Bowe vs. Golota II on ESPN classic.
So sad for me to watch, as a hardcore boxing fan.
We will never see athletes EVEN as good as these two fighting as heavies ever again.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I’m going back to my pre Raiders drafting Pryor stance.
He should be a WR for us.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
thats what coaches are for
January 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
No actually his accuracy isnt that bad. Only real issue is he steps out a little too much with his left foot and which widens out his stance too much…
January 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Pryor vs:
USC 11 for 25
Wisconsin 5 for 13
Penn State 8 for 17
Miami 12 for 27
Wisconsin again 14 for 28
Iowa 18 for 33
But he TORE UP the Ohio Bobcats, Indiana, Purdue, and Minnesota.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
TP has more potential in the NFL then TEBOW
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Is that why he was a 3rd rounder and Tebow was a 1st rounder?
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Tebow of Nazareth was a first-round pick because of his hokey “Jesus Christ Lord and Savior” schtick, which made the “liberal media” fall in love with him. People love religious zealots.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
A lot of back and forth, J on Pryor.
If he is a member of the heart of a lion club, he may have a chance.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
218-Where did that post say that R.M was going to coach?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Resign Glo to backup Palmer.
He won’t get a starting gig anywhere else.
Go ahead and give him 4 million a year or so.
Rather pay him than Bush.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Tebow went to Denver, one of the most liberal places in America.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
J Hill Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I’m going back to my pre Raiders drafting Pryor stance.
He should be a WR for us.
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I use to share that stance, but after seeing what Cam and Tebow were able to do, I like the idea of Pryor sitting behind Palmer for a while and learning the game. Getting an opp to humble himself and mature. Athletically, hes a Defenses nightmare. Im not sayin its guaranteed to work out, but with the proper coaching, it could be a beautiful thing.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Well, what an uninspired pick Dennis Allen will be. Theres nothing really impressive about his resume and its not long at all.
Lets hope the coordinators are on point.
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I don’t know, he was a starter on RC Slocums “Wrecking Crew” defense that was #1 in the nation, then went to Dan Reeves in Atlanta and had one losing season there. He learned the league from Wade Phillips possibly one of the top defensive coordinators ever, before being recruited by rival New Orleans. There he was with Sean Payton, Gary Gibbs and Gregg Williams. Then he goes to another defensive guru John Fox to be HIS defensive coordinator and gets pretty good results there with not alot of talent. Am I missing anything? Oh, right, he won a World Championship Ring while in New Orleans. It might not be very long, but it sure is impressive. At least to me it is.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Id rather sign Reggie Bush than Michael Bush, honestly.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I know, JFB.
I admitted that Tebow had me wanting to see Pryor because I figured that he could add the throwing element to the run option.
Too many negative reports about him actually being able to sit in the pocket and make throws.
I HATED the thought of Vince Young being our QB. I think Tebow is a JOKE. So how can I possibly be sitting here saying I want to see Pryor?
I’m off it!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Miami
the post I was replying to stated McKenzie could.
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“Reggie has an intimate knowledge about LBs and a DB coach, either Moss or Allen, would presumably have expertise coaching the secondary. They could team up…”
January 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I wouldnt blame him for all those incompletions… They give him a chance and everyone will be happy with what they see
January 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Man this may not be popular…but we need a vet to go with DHB Moore and Ford…..my vote is Reggie Wayne….he is perfect for us IMO….what y’all Raider guys think?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Vince Young
was considered a MUCH better pocket passer than Terrell Pryor, which is why VY went in the 1st and carries a lifetime winning record,
while Pryor was rescued from the 5th round by Al’s 3rd round reach.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
JFB have you been to DENVER sure didnt feel very Liberal to me.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
No actually his accuracy isnt that bad. Only real issue is he steps out a little too much with his left foot and which widens out his stance too much…
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Its THIS.
He has a very strong arm, and he has zip on a lot of his passes, even on the run. Someone needs to coach him on his footwork, and I think hes willing to learn. Truth be told, Carsons footwork is very good, and he would be an excellent QB for Pryor to learn from.
Again, at 6′5, 235 solid muscle, and a 4.3 forty, with a laser arm, that potential alone is enough to TRY to see what you potentially have. We’ll know in a few, either way, but it could be real nice if it all falls into place in our favor.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Moss or Allen could team up? I understood it like that, oh well.
Reggie Wayne would be an awesome pick up. Love my Hurricane players!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Just memorize this when you start feeling that ridiculous urge to watch Pryor throw the football:
vs:
USC 11 for 25
Wisconsin 5 for 13
Penn State 8 for 17
Miami 12 for 27
Wisconsin again 14 for 28
Iowa 18 for 33
68 for 143 (47% !!!!) in games vs top defenses.
But he TORE UP the Ohio Bobcats
January 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Man this may not be popular…but we need a vet to go with DHB Moore and Ford…..my vote is Reggie Wayne
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Why would that not be popular?
May be able to get Donald Drive much cheaper.
Wayne is going to want to start.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I love the Reggie Wayne idea,…hes ready to split that mess in Indy.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Tebow > Pryor > Pat White (but only by a little bit)
We’re not an Arena Football team.
Aim higher.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Any vet receiver that caught more then 30 balls last year will instantly be the number one here.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I have been many times.
Not sure if it is the mayor of the congress spot, but it hasn’t had a non-Democrat in 50 years.
Very, very liberal.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
what about boldin flacco aint doing that guy no justice
January 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Gannon coaching up Pryor would be a great thing but I’m sure that will never happen. =(
January 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
actually, an innovative offense like our last one was Pryor’s best chance at NFL success.
We’ll see if that changes much with our O coaching turnover.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Alex7 you a pro scout? Or do you have NFL experience?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Man this may not be popular…but we need a vet to go with DHB Moore and Ford…..my vote is Reggie Wayne….he is perfect for us IMO….what y’all Raider guys think?
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Nastiness. It would be crazy seeing what Wayne and Palmer could do after learning each other. Wayne is a master route runner.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Man trade Palmer for a 3rd and don’t resign JC
January 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Reggie Wayne would be freaking awesome!!
Would probably take him a minute to get used to lining up in a different spot sometimes.
With Peyton, they line up on one side of the field EVERY PLAY, and never go in motion.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
lol Miami. Would make good TV though.
Gannon: “Listen, if the strong drops in the box and you read outside fire, but they overload on the weak side, you can’t slide the line, audible the RB to SS side. K?”
Pryor: “Rich, check out this here TAT I gots last night!”
January 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Terrell Pryor 2010 vs Arkansas a top ranked SEC team in a Bowl game.
56% 221 yds 2 TDs
156 yds rushing
Dont let the haters fool you.
Enough Said!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Reggie Wayne and Peyton are going to be with the Jets.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
B, did you see MR admit he spoons KK ?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
purple
was a writer for raidernews.com, so watched and learned poring over film. played and coached a bit at local HS.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Man Wayne should start if he signed jhill are you nuts?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Trade Palmer, dump Campbell,..who the F is throwing the ball???
January 24th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
230.Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Breaking_Black Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Well, what an uninspired pick Dennis Allen will be. Theres nothing really impressive about his resume and its not long at all.
Lets hope the coordinators are on point.
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I don’t know, he was a starter on RC Slocums “Wrecking Crew” defense that was #1 in the nation, then went to Dan Reeves in Atlanta and had one losing season there. He learned the league from Wade Phillips possibly one of the top defensive coordinators ever, before being recruited by rival New Orleans. There he was with Sean Payton, Gary Gibbs and Gregg Williams. Then he goes to another defensive guru John Fox to be HIS defensive coordinator and gets pretty good results there with not alot of talent. Am I missing anything? Oh, right, he won a World Championship Ring while in New Orleans. It might not be very long, but it sure is impressive. At least to me it is.
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Like we are saying…IF this kid gets the gig, lets hope he hires GOOD EXPERIENCED COORDINATORS AND ASSISTANTS.
Those decisions will be a big key and may make or break him as a head coach here.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Terrell Pryor 2010 vs Arkansas a top ranked SEC team in a Bowl game.
56% 221 yds 2 TDs
156 yds rushing
Dont let the haters fool you.
Enough Said!
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Yeah, I mean, one time in college he played well against Arkansas. He’s sure to be a star!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Aig
56% is below average in OSU’s conservative offense. I don’t care about his rushing stats, we all acknowledge that skill.
We’re talking about passing.
47% in 6 games vs top defenses. That suuuuucks.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Been reading this blog every day for a few years now and just want to give props to everyone in here for being such a die hard Raida Fan. In regards to Allen, the key words I see in describing him are disciplined and hard-nosed. That’s what we need on this team cuz I’m tired of the freakin’ penalties and lack of focus, especially on D. If he can do to our D what he did with Denver’s, then we win the AFC West next year for sure. But in the long run, I’m looking forward to seeing what Reggie can do to improve personnel. Instead of mortgaging the future by reaching for aging veterans, these Raiders will be built through the draft. Value is the key word gentlemen…
January 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Terrell Pryor 2010 vs Arkansas a top ranked SEC team in a Bowl game.
56% 221 yds 2 TDs
156 yds rushing
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I watched that game, and he looked awesome in the first half, and than went like 3 of 9 in the second half and did nothing.
The reverse Tebow.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Raidernews.com sucks ass…..Chucky24 and Tomycar are btches…..and the writers are wimps
January 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
ol’ Raider OC mastermind Marc Trestman a candidate for Colts HC gig.
Appreciated his talent throwing the rock around. Hope he gets it.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Golotta and Bowe.
Two more heavies that would have pulverized Tyson if he would have fought them.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Yeah, I mean, one time in college he played well against Arkansas. He’s sure to be a star!
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BS. Look up his college stats. He blows away Jasoup in every category at every year in college. He threw for 57 TD’s, rushed for 11 TDs and caught 2 TDS. 69 effin TDS in 2 yrs and you guys act like the guy can’t play. Give me an effin break.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Tebow > Pryor > Pat White (but only by a little bit)
We’re not an Arena Football team.
Aim higher.
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Haaaaaa, ahhh man, thats cold. Pat White. Truth is, Pryor shouldnt have gone to Ohio state. Tressel failed miserably in developing Pryor, ran a boring offense, and didnt allow Pryor to maximize his skills and abilities. And so hes still very raw, but like I said, if hes willing to put in the work and learn, and gets adequate coaching, while watching Palmer operate, it COULD go really nicely. Or not. Theres definitely no guarantee he’ll be successful, but its still a nice prospect.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Method
you remember random blog people that strongly? Odd.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
B@uce! lol
January 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Amy….as long as it ain’t Palmer I don’t give a schit….Palmer is a loser….I like JC but its time to really start from scratch
January 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
John
true about the odd fit of Pryor at OSU.
I’ve just studied long enough to know that accuracy issues in college almost ALWAYS = accuracy issues in the NFL.
See: Kyle Boller
January 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Pryor wont be a Raider soon, along with about half the current roster.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Man this may not be popular…but we need a vet to go with DHB Moore and Ford…..my vote is Reggie Wayne….he is perfect for us IMO….what y’all Raider guys think?
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Wayne more than Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe or Stevie Johnson?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
SI_PeterKing Peter King
RT @AdamSchefter: Now official: Oakland Raiders are hiring former Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen as head coach. Deal done.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
AlexisMR….I have a great memory…I remember everything…I don’t forget schit 99pct of the time….how is Sac treatin ya? Odd?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Cam Newton threw for 140 and rushed for 188. Jeez I dont hear you whiners complain about Cam anymore. I predicted Cam would play well in the NFL.
Winners win. Period (to quote BHP)! Some have it and some dont.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
It’s being twitted that the Raiders have hired Allen.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Aig,
to many of the folks venturing here the glass is never half full. hell, it isn’t even half empty. it a cracked glass which cannot hold water at all.
all is flawed to them. McKenzie, whomever he hires, Pryor…all doomed.
to those many folks prognosticating failure contorts as wisdom in their minds.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Palmer will be a Pro Bowler and AFC West Champion in 2012.
Book it!!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Method’s logic:
“Palmer is a loser….I like JC”
Now ask him which guy has been to the playoffs before or even finished a season with his team having a winning record.
Not the latter.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
JayGlazer Jay Glazer
The Oakland Raiders have agreed to hire Dennis Allen as their new head coach. He has already informed the broncos
January 24th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Good Job Wasbanned!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Allen just got the job.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Alex was in here mocking Tebow early in the season comparing him to White as unsuccessful QB. Than Tebow went on a winning streak. Alex started using Tebow to support his argument. Give it up already loooooser!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
scheffter reporting it on twitter
January 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Cam set NCAA passing efficiency records in the SEC.
Pryor was a below-average passer in the Big 10.
Comparison? Ummm…they can run. They’re black. That’s it.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Len, you should tell wasbanned to stop living on Twitter, instead of sending him congrats.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Dennis Allen hired
January 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If it is Allen then what my guy told me about the Moss interview was correct….Moss was leading candidate but vehemently doesn’t want Palmer as his qb
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Man trade Palmer for a 3rd and don’t resign JC
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Come on Bri you’re coming off as a dummass of Jamista proportions here. Who are we going to start then, Donavon McNabb?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@JayGlazer Jay Glazer
The Oakland Raiders have agreed to hire Dennis Allen as their new head coach. He has already informed the broncos
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Len, you should tell wasbanned to stop living on Twitter, instead of sending him congrats.
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You tell Him.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Damn you, slow work internet!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Aig
I’ll repeat what I’ve always said.
Tebow = below-average QB. Love the guy for what he represents and does outside the lines. Guy is clutch if game is close, but he’s still being replaced in the next 2 seasons (once that 2013 QB class comes out).
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
per Jay Glacier
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Congrads allen now get Bowles as your Dc and Keep Saunders or get carmichael
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Glazer*
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Allens gonna be a tough Head Coach.
Cant wait to see the OC and DC.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Method
so Palmer has McKenzie’s support? That’s good.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@JayGlazer Jay Glazer
The Oakland Raiders have agreed to hire Dennis Allen as their new head coach. He has already informed the broncos
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w00t!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Peter King is nails, as much as everyone hates him.
Dennis Allen it is.
Improve our team, while hurting a division rival.
I like the way Reggie thinks!!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Cam set NCAA passing efficiency records in the SEC.
Pryor was a below-average passer in the Big 10.
Comparison? Ummm…they can run. They’re black. That’s it.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Ask AlexisMR who quit on his team with a super large contract
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Randy Moss.
Worked out well.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
We have an inside track now to stop the great Jesus Tebow! lol
Now it’s time to hire the Coordinators!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
if peyton mannings smart he will go to the baltimore colts i mean ravens
and were stuck with palmer he better up his game this offseason
January 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Inside sources say the Broncos are not exactly “crushed” at losing the DC of the NFL’s 8th-worst defense.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Moss didnt get hired for reasons not Palmer related. The facy is Moss isnt head coaching material, and Reggie knew it.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Allen a defensive guy…interesting…..so we go 4-3 again? My god move Houston to UT and dump kelly and seymour both
January 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
WE ARE GOING TO F#CKIN CRUSH DENVER NEXT SEASON
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Alex7 your inside source is your mother and she needs to use the computer. Printing out some coupons for your pop tarts.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
I highly doubt Big Mac is gonna wanna pay Seymour 15million this year to get ejected 3 games a year and play below average
January 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Amy….not true at all…Moss had that in bag…..lol how the hell he knows Allen is?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Solid post, Hagar.
We replaced a top-10 O coordinator with the DC of the 24th-ranked D.
We’ll see.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Kelly is a keeper, Seymour will retire.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Excellent Article giving the Good & Bad on Dennis Allen
http://raidernationtimes.com/2012/oakland-raiders-head-coach-search-the-good-and-bad-of-dennis-allen/#comment-38752
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
309.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Inside sources say the Broncos are not exactly “crushed” at losing the DC of the NFL’s 8th-worst defense.
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let me guess your that inside source f the donks
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I just pray Brad Roll is out…. Maybe he and Hue Jack can go sip martinis in some other city
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
and than went like 3 of 9 in the second half and did nothing.
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Only 9 pass attempts in the 2nd half?
When he was looking “awesome” in the first half???
Bad coaching?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
For the haters on the blog, there are 31 other teams to root for. Do it and no one here, who is a Real Raider fan, would care.
Hate reading that sh&t on here from “raider fans”. Poof, vamoose son of a bcht.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Is cork still taking a nap?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Because he interviewed him twice,..he didnt interview Moss twice because he found out what he needed to know in first interview,..Im rollin with Reggie.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Chubby Checker lmao….Hagar…points for that
January 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Ask AlexisMR who quit on his team with a super large contract
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Eli Manning quit on the Dischargers and a Super Large contract. Not seeing a lot of downside here….
January 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Is cork still taking a nap?
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Cork? I thought you guys ran this blog…….
January 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
worth repeating.
Guys McKenzie interviewed:
Allen (no other interviews)
Mornhigweg (no other interviews)
Moss (no other interviews)
Tice (almost) no other interviews
January 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Yresh Amy…he found out him and Moss ain’t 100pct on all things…I.e. Palmer…Ill never be sold on Palmer and logical football eyes in the world aren’t either
January 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Im not sure who ever told you Moss had anything in the bag,…Reggie has talked well of him, but alot of that likely was he just likes the guy and was hoping him saying good things about him in past years was to get his name out there to other teams,…Reggie is smart…went with a guy he sees as a future head coaching star, not a buddy from the Packers.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Hue became a liability running around the town sippin Mai Tais with our strength and conditioning coach during the middle of the season when he should of been taking care of business
January 24th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Rod Woodson did wonders??
He will never coach again.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I just pray Brad Roll is out…. Maybe he and Hue Jack can go sip martinis in some other city
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Brad Roll is the Chuck Bresnehan of Strength and Conditioning coaches, and has not gotten enough flak from The Nation.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Why not wait and see what reggie and Allen say about Palmer?…they didnt sign him, they might crapcan him. Be patient.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
The gut has spoken!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Elway quit on the Colts drafting him.
Moss quit on the Raiders.
Eli quit on the Chargers.
Players usually know what they’re doing. And if you hate your boss and company, you too are allowed to quit.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Solid post, Hagar.
We replaced a top-10 O coordinator with the DC of the 24th-ranked D.
We’ll see.
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And the only job he could get was QB coach for the Cardinals? Top 10?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Did eli play for sD? Glenny come on…u smarter than this….Eli made it clear way in advance he wasn’t gonna play in SD……see his two SB appearances? That’s why Eli didnt
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Bowles was the token Rooney interview.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Why not call it the Art Shell Rule?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
I did think Hue would even have the sack for a Mai Tai.
He is more of a frozen dacquiri guy.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
worth repeating.
Guys McKenzie interviewed:
Allen (no other interviews)
Mornhigweg (no other interviews)
Moss (no other interviews)
Tice (almost) no other interviews
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Marty was interviewed (IIRC) by Indy.
Allen was interviewed by someone-or-other else.
We never interviewed Tice.
You also left off Bowles and Carmichael.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Obviously, the great coaches don’t eat or drink. They inject vitamins at 3a.m. at their team’s headquarters.
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PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Hue became a liability running around the town sippin Mai Tais with our strength and conditioning coach during the middle of the season when he should of been taking care of business
January 24th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I remember seeing Brad Roll drunker than a skunk walking pass the Metro on broadway probally tryna find a hooker when he should of been tryna figure out why all our players were out with hamstring injuries
January 24th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
BSPN says it is done in principle, no contract signed yet.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7499385/sources-oakland-raiders-hire-dennis-allen-denver-broncos-coach
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
When your out in the middle of the week gettin wasted and gettin pedicures and not speaking to the QB you traded the house away for is a giant issue…
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Duck
Colts did NOT interview Marty.
Allen was NOT interviewed by someone-or-other
Carmichael has not interviewed with anyone else either.
Tice was on our “short” list and will not interview anywhere else.
Bowles = 2012 rooney rule interview.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
yeah Drank
how dare a coach have a life outside the facility.
I saw pictures of Coughlin’s wife bringing him water at Giants headquarters. She was stopped at the perimeter gate. Coughlin doesn’t drink water!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
.Moss was leading candidate but vehemently doesn’t want Palmer as his qb
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Yeah, right!
Moss gave up a chance to be an NFL head coach because he didn’t want to coach Palmer?
Not buying that for a second.
And if he was dumb enough to take that stance, our new GM made a wise choice to move past him.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
303.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Peter King is nails, as much as everyone hates him.
Dennis Allen it is.
Improve our team, while hurting a division rival.
I like the way Reggie thinks!!
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What, was Peter the first to report this or what man?
Why do think everybody hates him? I actually like it when he comes on CSN, he knows his schit
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
rod woodson came aboard out of respect for al davis and the situation of his secondary woodson knew they were horrible and he tried to make them better woodson didnt need the job but you can only do so much with our crappy secondary not including branch gio and huff who actually looked as if someone was coaching them up a bit
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
OK… Raiders now have an Aggie as a HC.
Let the jokes begin…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
“Well, what an uninspired pick Dennis Allen will be. Theres nothing really impressive about his resume and its not long at all.
“Lets hope the coordinators are on point.”
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Actually, I think it quite inspired. A hiring of a re-tread may have worked out, may not have, but “inspiring” would not have been an adjective for such a hire.
If “inspiring” means “stimulating hope,” “causing belief in positive change,” I think you’re wrong. Al identified a talent like Sean Payton, but alas, Payton went elsewhere. SP says he has always seen Dennis Allen as future head-coaching material–bright, detail-oriented, having leadership abilities, and innovative.
All a guy can do is go with what he sees and hears. Reggie has done his thing. Sounds good so far to me.
The rest, I think, will depend on the culture of change both of these men can bring to a culture of failure and mediocrity.
Now, they have to strip the place of deadwood. That may take a season or two, but I feel we’re in better hands than we’ve been since Al lost it.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Solid post, Hagar.
We replaced a top-10 O coordinator with the DC of the 24th-ranked D.
We’ll see.
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And the only job he could get was QB coach for the Cardinals? Top 10?
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Cardinals didnt win SQUAT. The Saints won the SB with an aggressive turnover inducing defense, that Allen was part of – in fact ,the pick by Tracy Porter sealed it.
I’m riding with Reggie on this one.
ya’ll can see your way off the bandwagon, anytime.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:27 am
why do they have 3 or 4 different head lines ,and they all say the same thing almost word for word ,,,oh i got it copy and paste