Raiders hire Allen to replace fired Jackson
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders have reached agreement with Dennis Allen to be their head coach, according to Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer.
Allen and Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie met for a second time in Mobile, Ala., on Tuesday and hammered out the details of a contract that will make Allen the franchise’s 18th coach — Art Shell had two stints.
The Raiders have not commented on Glazer’s report, which later was reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter. A news conference introducing Allen likely will take place in Alameda before week’s end. McKenzie still is in Alabama for the lead up to the Senior Bowl.
Allen, 39, was the Denver Broncos defensive coordinator last season. Under his guidance, the Broncos defense improved from 29th in average yards allowed to 20th and from 32nd in points to 24th.
He also interviewed for the St. Louis Rams coaching vacancy, which ultimately went to Jeff Fisher. Allen also has coached the secondary and defensive line during his 10-year NFL coaching career. He has spent time with the Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints and Broncos.
McKenzie said the day he was introduced as the Raiders general manager that he fired Hue Jackson, in part, because he wanted “my guy.” In the end, McKenzie hired a guy in Allen in which he has no previous ties.
Allen is well regarded in NFL coaching circles as bright, energetic, hard-working and driven to succeed. He inherits a Raiders team that went 8-8 the past two seasons but has no winning seasons since 2002, when they advanced to the Super Bowl.
Late Raiders managing general partner Al Davis favored offensive-minded coaches. John Madden in 1969 was the last coach hired by the Raiders with an offensive-based background.
Allen will have sole authority to hire the coaches on his staff. Offensive coordinator Al Saunders has a strong shot at sticking around so that Allen can go about the process of improving the Raiders without having to worry too much about that side of the ball.
It’s defense where the Raiders need the most work, and that happens to be Allen’s specialty. The Raiders allowed 31 touchdowns passes last season, 5.1 yards per carry and the third-most points in franchise history (431).
Allen employed a 4-3 defensive scheme with the Broncos last season. McKenzie said he favors whichever scheme works best.
For now, the Raiders personnel is best suited to running the 4-3. We’ll wait until speaking with Allen to see what his intentions are along those lines.
Here’s how Allen described what he expected from the Broncos defense before last season, in an interview with the Broncos website: “We’re going to be built off speed and athleticism. We want to be a very fast, violent, aggressive type of defense.”
McKenzie fired Jackson on Jan. 10 and immediately set about identifying the best person to help the Raiders emerge from their nine-year funk.
He also interviewed Todd Bowles (Dolphins), Marty Mornhinweg (Eagles), Pete Carmichael Jr. (Saints) and Winston Moss Packers). Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy, Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice and Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers also surfaced as potential candidates, though none interviewed.
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January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Bowles was the token Rooney interview.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Why not call it the Art Shell Rule?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Bring back Hue
January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Sweet. Bye Hue.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Welcome Allen
January 24th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
AlexisMR is a moron…..elway and eli never played for those teams u lying btch….u are such a fkin liar all the time….please show up at a game becuz I’ll make sure u never post again
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
At least Hue Jackson can be head coach of the El Segundo High School Spartans. Coach ‘em up Hue!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Adam Schefter on ESPN right now had nothing but good things to say about Allen. “Dynamic, energetic, leader, commanding” etc.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Eli was traded to NY on draft day he didn’t quit on anybody. Didn’t miss a practice. Didn’t miss an OTA. Never even sniffed the Chargers playbook.
You are dumb as sh!t.
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Eli Manning quit on the Dischargers and a Super Large contract. Not seeing a lot of downside here….
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Are we now having that live chat with Cork tonight?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Greatest coaching change in NFL history!!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Hue Jigson for JC
Janitorial Coordinator.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Hue has been gone for 2 weeks and you just now are telling him g’bye?
You got a screw loose boy…
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Sweet. Bye Hue.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Anyhow…gettin ready to see if Kentucky loses tonight….if they do and mizzou wins vs ok st and tx tech on Saturday….Mizzou and lil Cuzin will be number one ranked team in Nation….eat it Mistress Beecher
January 24th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
‘Bout Time! Now, Mr. Dennis Allen, lock up OC Al Saunders quickly before you lose him. That goes for all Offensive Assistants now in place. You can dump Brad Roll the strength & conditioning coach. His plan last year didn’t help with injuries, in particular hamstrings. That smacks of poor conditioning.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
AlexisMR is a moron…..elway and eli never played for those teams u lying btch….u are such a fkin liar all the time….please show up at a game becuz I’ll make sure u never post again
Hi Method.
How’s Oakland treating you tonight?
January 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I agree JB. Keep Saunders!
January 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
349.J Hill Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
.Moss was leading candidate but vehemently doesn’t want Palmer as his qb
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Yeah, right!
Moss gave up a chance to be an NFL head coach because he didn’t want to coach Palmer?
Not buying that for a second.
And if he was dumb enough to take that stance, our new GM made a wise choice to move past him.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Hue Jackson for Janitor? Please he would blame the mop and towels for not gettin the job done
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Is the derelict marxist in chief going to speak tonight?
Sweet, tell us again how you are going to redistribute wealth purple lips!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Moss quit and went to the Super Bowl, setting TD records.
That was kinda cool.
I quit a few jobs in my youth. And…???
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Next Bowles for DC
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
With Saunders we should get the best of what we saw last year but without some of the rookie dumb calls. Those were the Hue specials.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Now let’s see what kind of staff he puts together. hope he brings back wiz and saunders.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Well Jhill u don’t buy a lot of things like brushes or combs or anything that has to do with having hair
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
like Palmer was the only guy who couldn’t wait to get out of cincy. And that’s AFTER leading them to the playoffs twice.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I like.
Things they are a brewin!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
AlexisMR….how is Sac treatin ya?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18875430
January 24th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Lol this Organization is a JOKE, sad day a year from now we are all going to be here whining on how McKenzie and Allen set the Raiders back 5 years, Bad Hire, fuk this team.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Eli was traded to NY on draft day he didn’t quit on anybody. Didn’t miss a practice. Didn’t miss an OTA. Never even sniffed the Chargers playbook.
You are dumb as sh!t.
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Eli Manning quit on the Dischargers and a Super Large contract. Not seeing a lot of downside here….
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Eli told the Dischargers he would not play for them. That is quitting on them. But hey, you thought we found Randy Moss walking along the avenue and brought him in you idiotic fuktard.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
I doubt he brings back anybody from the staff.
Saunder and Bones are the only ones who stand a chance.
4-3 and ZBS!!!!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Raiderdav is wise.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
OK… Raiders now have an Aggie as a HC.
Let the jokes begin…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Mista…what dry ass. Speech will Dumbama make tonight?…..”Americans blah blah blah blah and our resolve and hope for a better America blah blah blah blah….let’s shoot hoops and work on our dance moves”
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Is the derelict marxist in chief going to speak tonight?
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Yup. What are you going to do? Check out a gay porn rag?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Allen, (put name here) fixes our defense. Saunders takes over our offensive duties and calls plays. The gut tweaks our roster on offense and then goes to work on our defense.
Word.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Alright, wasn’t too thrilled about a Donk HC but I’ll gete over it. Ain’t like I ever met any of these people in person….
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Palmer is a loser and always has been…He will never win a playoff game in his life…never ever ever forever ever
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Hue Jackson for Janitor? Please he would blame the mop and towels for not gettin the job done
Nice, I sooo agree. He is a typical ….
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Of course Vegas Raider likes the Zbs…he enjoys soft svelte btch ass linemen like Cooper and Satele
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@sharper42 Darren Sharper
Congrats to my former position coach Dennis Allen being hired as new head coach of Oakland raiders. Raider nation,u got a good one. #success
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
raiderdav Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Lol this Organization is a JOKE, sad day a year from now we are all going to be here whining on how McKenzie and Allen set the Raiders back 5 years, Bad Hire, fuk this team.
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Does that mean you’re leaving? BYE.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
The guy was a donkey for one season.
Seriously, it’s not like we hired John Elway or something.
Besides, that’s only something fans care about, and TV networks promote. That’s why the pregame shows big hits between the teams, and than they cut out of all the warm and fuzzies at midfield after the game after about 10 seconds.
Players and coaches could care less.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Palmer is a loser and always has been…He will never win a playoff game in his life…never ever ever forever ever
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Based on that, you would rather have Tebow than Carson. You might want to take a nap and sleep it off Bri.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Geez
January 24th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Our roster doesn’t need an upheaval. As you’ve noticed, guys on D leave here and play better elsewhere. Or D guys (Seymour, McClain, Huff) come here and underperform.
Just need better coaching, better scheme.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Dictator in Chief is going to decide whats fair and who gets what and who makes how much money. And then of course where he is going to steal it to give it to those he feels need it….ahhhhh our first dictator in amer history
mope & change
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Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Mista…what dry ass. Speech will Dumbama make tonight?…..”Americans blah blah blah blah and our resolve and hope for a better America blah blah blah blah….let’s shoot hoops and work on our dance moves”
January 24th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Welcome Dennis! Keep Saunders as OC and retain Wiz.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Not down with Satele, but Savage is a valuable commodity.
Play every snap, never get penalties, dominate at times in run-blocking.
If we had 53 Cooper Carlisle’s, we would have been in the postseason.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Well Kentucky game on….college hoop rules…y’all take care…so Allen is the guy? Well let’s give him room and let his actions and work speak for itself…..Good luck D. Allen…cut the waste from roster….outro
January 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Well Jhill u don’t buy a lot of things like brushes or combs or anything that has to do with having hair
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Save a lot of $!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
351.realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
303.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Peter King is nails, as much as everyone hates him.
Dennis Allen it is.
Improve our team, while hurting a division rival.
I like the way Reggie thinks!!
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What, was Peter the first to report this or what man?
Why do think everybody hates him? I actually like it when he comes on CSN, he knows his schit
January 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Honestly I don’t know why we waste our time with rooting this organization, commuted to crap, McKenzie is a FRAUD, a year from now I’m going to be laughin at all of you who think this is a Good Hire, Mike Shsnahsn revisited Disgusting , I’m just ashame calling myself a Raider Fan.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Here’s how fans badmouth athletes:
“He’ll never win!” Guy wins.
“He’ll never make the playoffs!” Guy makes the playoffs.
“He’ll never win a playoff game!” If guy wins playoff game…
“He’ll never win a Super Bowl!”
Can’t win with some of them.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
“If you make over 20,000 a year you are rich and shall be punished”
Sincerely
Barback 0hbama
January 24th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
2 more years of Big-game Timmy Tim = 1 more World Series
January 24th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Good hire …… Defense …fix it ..
January 24th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RaiderDav, you arent being forced to watch or support the Raiders. Nobody will even know youve left.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Monte Poole has it right, and he probably was scanning this blog. That’s right, RegMac better score with this hire, or he will be laughed out of OakTown in a minute. I have nothing on Dennis Allen, never heard of him, which is probably a good thing. He had a helluva defense with the donkeys, with nothing more than a few players and chump. Was that more John Fox, though?
Have to see Allen in action to tell. I’ll at least give him a few games see what he can do with the Raiders sorry arse defense, and with the whole team.
When RegMac said he was going for change he sure meant it. No connections at all to the Raiders, that’s a new one.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
JB Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
With Saunders we should get the best of what we saw last year but without some of the rookie dumb calls. Those were the Hue specials.
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Hue called ALL of the offensive plays…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
What was the feeling when no names gruden and Peyton were offered jobs. The dude’s description sounds like both
January 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
SeymourGlenn….um no I wouldn’t want either but Tebow beat Palmer and wins playoff games at home and inspires his teammates….now u go to sleep lol
January 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
sharper42 Darren Sharper
Congrats to my former position coach Dennis Allen being hired as new head coach of Oakland raiders. Raider nation,u got a good one. #success
January 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@KMcCarthy34 Kyle McCarthy
Congrats to Coach Allen landing the Raiders head coaching job. I think they got themselves a good one.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
but RaiderDav
McKenzie PLAYED FOR US! That’s sooooo important! And he had Aaron Rodgers and McCarthy making everyone in GB look like a genius! And John Madden recommended him! (obviously Madden’s long history of successfully finding upper management clients…oh wait).
And Ron Wolf recommended him! (And Wolf’s son gets promoted through it. Hmmm.)
January 24th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Cheese Mckenzie better be right on this one. He got “his guy”. This better not be Shannarat 2.0.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Allen to Bresnahan: “Why are you still here”?
Bresnahan: “Uh, I thought I might able to help”
Allen: “Are you schitting me? You gotta be one ignorant MF’er.”
Allen to Herrera: ” John, insn’t it your job around here to show people out? Well”?
Herrrera: “You mean I still got a job”?
Allen: “I dunno. Show his a$$ outta here pronto. Then go talk to Reggie to see if he needs his shoes shined or laundry picked up. If not. then I guess you’re outta here too”.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
pres…WTF is a TALLYBON?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Jhill lmao good one Headie King Jr
January 24th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Raider Guy
Gruden was a no-name because the internet was a baby.
Peyton was NOT a no-name to most of us. Huge success in New York and a Bill Parcells’ guy.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
La Confora on NFL Network saying that Dennis Allen is considered a rising star in many league circles.
He is a Task Master & Disciplinarian
January 24th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Ok really gone…prez is scammin er I mean talkin….” We can do this!” Lol
January 24th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
ZBS!!!!!!
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I don’t see us going back to the ZBS. IF Allen is smart he will keep Wylie and let him continue his work with this group, they were the ONLY part of the team that improved from 2010.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
The Prez is knocking this speech out of the park! Good for him.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Method wassup boi
January 24th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
One good thing about the O’bummer tenure?
He helps sharpen my BS sales skills. If people bought this crap, than funding your retirement is a no-brainer!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Agree keep al Saunders
January 24th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
And once again, our fearless Raiders insiders (17 years of covering the Raiders) and Bay Area cess, err press pool, get beat out of a major breaking story. How is it that Glazer or Sheetler always beat them to a story that matters? What creeps!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Give it some time NATION!!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Im not watching this speech, but you can bet the prez didnt write it, but spent the last month rehersing it.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
The last Raiders head coach not to be hired by Al Davis was hired in 1963. His name? Al Davis.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Dictator in Chief taking us back to Poland & East Germany 1934.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Not for nothing but, Glazer beats EVERYONE on stories that matter.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
I wonder if Dennis Allen pays his fair share.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Oh well, it really depends on the OC and DC. HC’s not named Belichick are overrated. See:
Kubiak’s Texans pre and post Wade Phillips.
Childress pre/post Favre.
Caldwell pre/post Manning.
Reid pre/post Jim Johnson.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
The worst part about this hire is that we won’t get to see Al intro him.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
QBs, DCs both matter more than HCs.
DC hire will make or break us.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
I think Peter King was the first to tweet this.
I heard him once say he has over 250 players and coaches cell phones in his blackberry and texts a lot of them daily.
I wonder if Jerry and Cork have a dozen between them.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
JB Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
With Saunders we should get the best of what we saw last year but without some of the rookie dumb calls. Those were the Hue specials.
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Hue called ALL of the offensive plays…
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Yes, but it was an offensive playbook created by Al Saunders. Those were Saunder’s play designs. Hue was in effect the Chinese repeater.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
We need more govt to fix the problems govt created.
hahaha
January 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
LET THE DEFENSIVE OVERHUAL BEGIN!!!!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
18.Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Hue Jackson for Janitor? Please he would blame the mop and towels for not gettin the job done
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Those “players” let us down just as much.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
govt needs to back off
January 24th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
JB
a guy who chooses when to call a play is the same as a repeater? Weird logic. Where was this Saunders success when in Washington? Nowhere.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Who is this guy? I was sure we would get a Green Bay coach.
When is the presser?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Im from MASS and Tim Thomas Goalie of the Bruins refused to attend white house visit….good for him
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Dennis Allen, you got to like that name, atleast I do, my middle name is Dennis, and who doesn’t like that last name? I hope he can coach, all the early repots on him sound good.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Allen should hire Saunders to get Terrelle Pryor ready to be the QB that gets Cam Newton type comparisons, give continuity to our young receiving corps and leave him free to retool the D.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Finally some news in this place. Alright Allen, get to business.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
I think Peter King was the first to tweet this.
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Negative. PK just said on Twitter he got it from Glazer
January 24th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
the players that quit dont respect who they are working for and i dont expect them to be around much longer
January 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Oh well, it really depends on the OC and DC. HC’s not named Belichick are overrated. See:
Kubiak pre and post Wade Phillips.
Reid pre/post Jim Johnson.
Childress pre/post Favre.
Caldwell pre/post Manning.
Fox pre/post Tebow.
Haley pre/post QB/RB injuries.
DC and OC hire is what matters now.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
We hired Marcus Allen? Sweeeeeet!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Dictator in Chief taking us back to Poland & East Germany 1934.
Um no, if you were to go “back” it would be to Africa. Ya dig nig
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
505
logically, would the teams that “fire/cut” a player be equally disrespectful? Or is it just two sides of business?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
See ya Slowlando.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Yes, but it was an offensive playbook created by Al Saunders. Those were Saunder’s play designs. Hue was in effect the Chinese repeater.
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Really… interesting… I guess you are going to tell me the plays Hue called in 2010 were Tom Cables…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
so be it….will he bring a rb like mcgahee who will play hurt? at least we can dump thst nonsense of a 3-4 defense…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
DC and OC hire is what matters now.
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Except when the HC repeatedly tries to steal all the headlines and face time, makes horrendous end of game decisions, and fails to install even the faintest notion of discipline.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Who was tomlin? No one knew em but as a bucs DB coach then became steelers HC and look what happens…two superbowl appearences and won one. What about raheem morris? Went 10-6 his second year and the others…cough… And look at jim harcrybaby. He was a college coach adjusting to the NFL and took the whinners to the NFC Championship game. Just Give Allen some time. The offense he worked with had Teblow as QB. It was so many 3 and outs im surprised the D wasnt tired but they was clutch to get into the playoffs. I am all for bringing in Bowles as DC. I hope reggie recommended him to allen
January 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
its saunders offense not foolhue….
January 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
interesting article on PFT:
Andrea Kremer explores the NFL’s “magic potion” that “masks pain from head to toe.”
The wonder drug goes by the name of Toradol. It’s not a narcotic, it’s not addictive, it’s legal to use.
The popular medication entails risks, including destruction of joints and damage to the stomach, liver, and kidneys. And the players aren’t necessarily aware of those risks.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/24/nfls-magic-potion-has-risks-players-like-urlacher-dont-care/
January 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
53.raiderdav Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Honestly I don’t know why we waste our time with rooting this organization, commuted to crap, McKenzie is a FRAUD, a year from now I’m going to be laughin at all of you who think this is a Good Hire, Mike Shsnahsn revisited Disgusting , I’m just ashame calling myself a Raider Fan.
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Then go by a Brady jersey and get lost you frontrunner.
Nobody’s holding a gun to your head to call yourself a Raider fan.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
so why didn’t saunders’ offense work for JC in Washington?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
WTF
lol
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John Tweedy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Um no, if you were to go “back” it would be to Africa. Ya dig nig
January 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
best thing about the hire is that no one in this blogset saw it coming – 10,000 entries since HueJack was handed his stale twinkie and told to hit the bricks – blindsided by Reggie. now that is good.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
if you cant do the job your paid to do then your SOL
January 24th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Well Allen get to work now
January 24th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Nobody’s holding a gun to your head to call yourself a Raider fan.
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Have you checked McClain’s whereabouts recently?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
because it was jc!!! what other reason do you need?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Raheem Morris Went 10-6 his second year and the others
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Actually he overachieved at 10-6 his first year, went 4-12 his second year and was promptly fired, most people in the media citing his lack of disciple in the team making the Raiders look like a R Lee Ermey bootcamp.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Alex,
I have to admit, that was good.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Great for Jackie, but who needs funding to pay for community college?
It’s like $50 a semester.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
olinesux Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
its saunders offense not foolhue….
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Oh I got you… welp then Saunders should not be retained because one of the reasons you jackasses site for firing Hue is the ineffective offense in the second half… that means Saunders offense is 50% effective and is sh1t then.
Well played genius
January 24th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RaiderDav……
Joe Bugel
Mike White
Norn Turner
Art Shell
Lane Kiffin
Tom Cable
But now your mad, and not gonna take it anymore?….Get a Life…. I dont LOVE the hire but D. Allen is considered a rising star im willing to wait and see….Idiot
January 24th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
I hope he proves me wrong, but I still can’t believe that let Hue go without a better back-up plan than this.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Lonetree
can you give me an example of a successful HC who was a coordinator for only one 24th-ranked season? Awfully raw.
McCarthy, Sean Payton, Gruden, Tomlin all had a little more success prior.
This hire is groundbreaking in the lack of experience. We’ll see if that’s good or not.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Hue sucked, that’s why he was fired from just about every organization he worked for in 2-3 years, and will be taking a massive paycut and step down the ladder next year.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
She can get educated for a job that doesn’t exist under his policies.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Great for Jackie, but who needs funding to pay for community college?
It’s like $50 a semester.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Why did no one else interview this rising star?
Again, this is groundbreaking in the lack of HC or DC experience before taking a HC job.
Can’t think of a single person with less successful experience taking a HC job.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Rams interviewed Allen.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
bcz moron the reason huesux got fired was his big mouth matched by his big ego and stupid calls at stupid times….(his calls of als offense, theres a difference).
January 24th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Hue Jackson was the OC for a 19th and 27th ranked offense before he came here, and was fired after each season.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Hue sucked, that’s why he was fired from just about every organization he worked for in 2-3 years, and will be taking a massive paycut and step down the ladder next year.
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I can take your loathing of Hue because you don’t try to disguise your ‘opinion’ by saying completely stupid sh1t like it was Al Saunders playbook when we scored, but Hue’s when we didn’t.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Next move for McKenzie? May be to hire Moss, Bowles or Darren Perry as defensive coordinator & retain Al Saunders as offensive coordinator
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Do it baby! Then dump Palmer and make Pryor your QB!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
JFB
so agreed? This hire has the LEAST HC/OC/DC experience of anyone we can think of? ONE year as a 24th-ranked DC.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
We didn’t run Saunders playbook. You guys call Hue an egomaniac but think he would run someone else’s playbook? Thats the stupidest fvcking thing I have ever heard
January 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Comprehensive illegal immigration policy = amnesty
January 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Why did no one else interview this rising star?
Again, this is groundbreaking in the lack of HC or DC experience before taking a HC job.
Can’t think of a single person with less successful experience taking a HC job.
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Read the posts, Einstein. The Rams interviewed Allen. And quit your bizarre Hue man-love.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Guys, let this play out! To me, it all depends on who his coordinators are!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Allen coached the Saints secondary the led the NFL in turnovers, and defensive points scored and won the Super Bowl (in large part due to a pick 6 by his secondary)… the guy has NFL experience.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
YA
Rams were SCHEDULED to interview Allen January 14th.
Rams hired Jeff Fisher on January 13th.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Dennis Allen was a finalist along with Fisher for the Rams job.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Comprehensive illegal immigration policy = amnesty
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(Read in lispy liberal voice.)
This is a nation of immigrants you RACIST.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
“COACH WANTS TO SEE YOU,BRING YOUR PLAYBOOK”
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
This incoherent babbling buffoon is a embarrassment to the US.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Bcz
we all agree Allen has NFL experience.
Allen also has the LEAST HC/OC/DC experience I’ve EVER seen for a guy getting hired as a HC.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
At the very least we just made the Donkeys start over at DC again for the 7th time in 7 years.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Next move for McKenzie? May be to hire Moss, Bowles or Darren Perry as defensive coordinator & retain Al Saunders as offensive coordinator
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Do it baby! Then dump Palmer and make Pryor your QB!
Only thing with this is that Reggie has said that, now it’s Allen, will get to hire his own staff! But he could “recommend” those guys to see if Allen wants them or not!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Bcz
we all agree Allen has NFL experience.
Allen also has the LEAST HC/OC/DC experience I’ve EVER seen for a guy getting hired as a HC.
Tom Cable?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
So Chucky B is unemployed??
D is a problem, might be a good thing.. anxious to get the next season going..
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
but again, HC (non Belichick) is overrated.
OC/DC/QB run the league.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I can take your loathing of Hue because you don’t try to disguise your ‘opinion’ by saying completely stupid sh1t like it was Al Saunders playbook when we scored, but Hue’s when we didn’t.
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In all honesty, Hue’s brashness worked for a short period with our team, but like a bully, they usually cower when punched back, like our team was.
The next HC biggest challenge, is to continue on the few things Hue did right, and build on all the things he did wrong.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Bcz
we all agree Allen has NFL experience.
Allen also has the LEAST HC/OC/DC experience I’ve EVER seen for a guy getting hired as a HC.
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Lane Kiffin?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
the good ole your a RACIST claim, because some want enforced border policies….pfffft, good one
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
it is…thats why only a pedicure wanting, press loving, “me” and “i” interview responding ex coach would do it…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Immigration is one thing illegal immigration is another.
Comprende libtardo ?
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Sweep The Leg. Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
(Read in lispy liberal voice.)
This is a nation of immigrants you RACIST.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Cable at least had 3 years as HC in NCAA.
This guy went grad assistant, D-line assistant, secondary, 1 year DC, Raiders HC.
wow.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Bcz24 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
At the very least we just made the Donkeys start over at DC again for the 7th time in 7 years.
If the report of Del Rio rejoining Fox in Denver is true…could be scary!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
missesbrown the raiders hired a coach go talk about your delusions on the rush limbaugh page…
January 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
That was sarcasm brother.
Slow your roll ‘yo.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Kiffin had 2 years of OC experience (shared) at USC before jumping to Oakland.
Kiffin’s close, but Allen still wins.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Make sure to short whatever stock that company Brian works for in Michigan.
An out of work, 55 year old former furniture worker, now works in the lab?
LMAO!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Allen also has the LEAST HC/OC/DC experience I’ve EVER seen for a guy getting hired as a HC.
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Bal-Harbaugh was a ST coach, NEVER an OC/DC at ANY level
January 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
allen impressed mckinnzie
and rmac is a football guy not a local highschool coach like alex7
but a pro football minded guy thats enough for me
January 24th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Cable at least had 3 years as HC in NCAA.
This guy went grad assistant, D-line assistant, secondary, 1 year DC, Raiders HC.
wow.
Hey not everyone is gonna like it…but we all have to live with it! I rather have had Bowles, but hey, I’m not Reggie!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
I guess you need to cut your teeth as a HC for the first time at some point, and Allen is going to ..HERE…
Lets see what he can do with this overpaid underwhelming D of ours.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
McKenzie at press conference said team would “probably” switch to 3-4.
Hires down the list 4-3 guy.
Interesting to see how DC plays out.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
D Allen and T Pryor are the next BB and Brady!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Bcz
we all agree Allen has NFL experience.
Allen also has the LEAST HC/OC/DC experience I’ve EVER seen for a guy getting hired as a HC.
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Hue Jackson, Mike tomlin, there are alot dude, chill
January 24th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
His lapdog Dems don’t even know when to clap and sometimes only like 3 people clap.
lmfao
January 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
505!!
We got two people posting from the ‘Burque lol.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
yeah BlackMamba
kinda tired of coaches’ first HC gigs being in Oakland
And we complained about rookie HC mistakes. What do we expect?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Realtru
Jackson and Tomlin had either more OC/DC years experience, or a better season (Tomlin 8th-ranked D).
January 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
WHATSUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
[...] Dennis Allen has agreed to become the new head coach of the Oakland [...]
January 24th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Dennis Allen;
Can’t say it’s a good hire, but I can’t say it’s a bad hire. We won’t know until we play real games. I will say this,, our defense with the exception of Von Miller,,E Dumerville,,and Champ Bailey is far more talented than Denvers,, the big difference is that our Ds Football IQ was by far inferior to Denvers because of the DCs. If Dennis had our D personell we may have been in the top 15,,maybe. I do like the fact we didnt hire the usual retreads, and got some young blood in to bring some needed energy. If Allen can get Rolazy McClain to play half as hard as Von Miller, then we may have something special.
So I’ll wait and see before judging D-Allen.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Tomlin also has that Hall of Fame DC to lean on
But yeah, in terms of experience, it goes
Allen
Tomlin
Kiffin
Cable
Hue
for raw names thrown out. This is as green as it gets. Will be fun to see it play out.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
That Donkey defense played with a passion, energy and unity last season.
6th best 3rd down D as well (important in today’s NFL)
If we can get anything close to that from our guys, we will be just fine.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Looking at Raider website, see 4 of the top 10 scoring teams in Raider history were Gruden offenses. LOL at all you who said he is overrated.
I expect a Pryor led offense to break the top 10 soon.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Like I said, John Harbaugh was NEVER a coordinator at any level of football.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Dennis Allen brings a fresh, clean slate.
Defensive minded. Hard core disiplinarian. Young. According to players he knows how to get thru to them. Won’t tolerate the b.s.
Part of the fun of this is not knowing exactly what to expect, but almost everything i’m reading sounds good so far.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
WONDER IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE ON THE DENVER STAFF THIS GUY WILL TRY AND BRING OVER..
January 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Terell Pryor will never be the starting QB here, Al Davis is gone, that project will die soon too.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
See if Allen can get McClain to play with some passion, Wimbley with some consistancy, and Curry with some brains.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
This moron is now telling milk jokes and going back to the farmer.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
John Harbaugh, there you go, he will make the top of that list
January 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
“I will not back down from kids getting mercury poisoning”
This is the most embarrassing moment in amer history!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Maybe he can teach Routt the value of turning your head and at least attempting to play the ball.
And Branch to work on his zone coverage skills more than his post-sack fencing dance (or whatever the fck that is).
January 24th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Mista…LoL
January 24th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
173.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
yeah BlackMamba
kinda tired of coaches’ first HC gigs being in Oakland
And we complained about rookie HC mistakes. What do we expect?
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Yeah bro the Lazy Susan that is the HC role at the raiders continues..
Have to trust in that Slow metabolism Mckenzie and his choice.. YIKES !!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Yeah, how bout John Madden, he will make the top of that list too.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Evening Raiders fans and others! (with the others flapping their pieholes pretty heavy tonite)
I wasn’t in love with the idea of a Donk coming here, but the more I read about D. Allen, the more I like. And the Donks loss is our gain. Welcome Dennis.. my beloved Raiders are yours brother.. Kick some ass.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
God, the guy does nothing but drone. 1,000 days without a budget and counting………
Fits the description of a narcissist: “But don’t I sound purdy?”
January 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
HC-Dennis Allen
OC-Saunders
DC-Del Rio or Bowles
Seems like Allen would prefer Bowles, he would look over his shoulder with Del Rio.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Dennis Allen’s first order of business:
Order shipment of 10,000 protein bars to DVD, and demand to see each empty box before training camp.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
The border has never been more secure…
Well except for all those AK47’s you sold to the mex drug lords!
January 24th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Every (R) poll numbers will go up 7-10 % in a head to head poll after tonight
January 24th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Dennis Allen’s first order of business:
Order shipment of 10,000 protein bars to DVD, and demand to see each empty box before training camp.
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Second order of business: Ship a DVD of “Full Metal Jacket” to McClain, and let him know that he’s Private Pyle until further notice.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
This SOTU seems subdued, even from the left side of the aisle. (He has established no friendships with those of his party. He clings to his Chicago friends who put him there.)
January 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
MistaBrown, leave Barrack alone. He is trying hard and seems like a good guy. Much better than Republican candidate.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
DVD, eh?
So you don’t believe the Huff to CB thing is still part of the plan?
January 24th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Man, we get a new coach but all you want to talk about is politics.. Go to a Fox news or MSNBC blog to get your rocks off.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I wonder if BO ACTUALLY knows the reason why Buffet pays a lesser tax rate than his secretary.
And if so, does he understand that a cap gains tax increase will affect every person with a 401K.
January 24th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
IF / WHEN ALLEN COMES FACE-2-FACE WITH CHUCKY B. WE COULD HAVE A CABLE/HANSON REPLAY..
January 24th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
KNBR is going to talk about Raiders next.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
I thought this was a Raider blog-we just got a new coach-take politics somewhere else!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
I really hope Allen doesn’t come in and try and call the defensive plays.
Manage the whole team, mayne!
Hire some coordinators you trust!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
yup DVD needs to gain about 20 lbs
seymore, mcclain, and bush need to lose 20 those knees and ankles hurt for a reason
worst shape of seymores career didnt see that ish in NE
January 24th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Hell Yeah RaiderNation we now have a coach. Time to go clip this beard and then shave. “I’m so excited. And I just can’t hide it.”
January 24th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Huff to CB is a last ditch effort by Hue to act like he had a clue, and for Huff to act like he is worth his salary.
I was told of how fluid DVD’s hips were, so let’s see these fluid hips with some meat on them.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
“I wonder if BO ACTUALLY knows the reason why Buffet pays a lesser tax rate than his secretary.
“And if so, does he understand that a cap gains tax increase will affect every person with a 401K.”
Yeah, he knows it, but he’s banking on the American public, most of whom who work have either a 401k, a 403b or retirement funds invested in them as not knowing.
What an example of leadership, huh? At a time like this just blames “Washington” as if he’s not part of Washington.
The problem is that too many who don’t pay taxes get to vote.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
the Broncos were tied for the sixth-most blitzes on pass plays in the league this season, according to STATS LLC.
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I figured some of you would like to hear this
January 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
MistaBrown, leave Barrack alone. He is trying hard and seems like a good guy. Much better than Republican candidate.
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He is trying hard to create a Marxist dictatorship, and destroy the constitution.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Did you all know you can listen to radio stations on the internet? I just found that out.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
MistaBrown, leave Barrack alone. He is trying hard and seems like a good guy. Much better than Republican candidate.
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He is trying hard to create a Marxist dictatorship, and destroy the constitution.
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Who MistaBrown?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Comprehensive illegal immigration policy = amnesty
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(Read in lispy liberal voice.)
This is a nation of immigrants you RACIST.
Actually, a large portion of our Citizens are offspring of people that were captured and brought here by force, then Sold at Auction to the highest bidder.
So if you are from one of these Tribes please understand you are NOT an immigrant at all you are a… Never mind
January 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Donkeys were a 4-3 team that blitzed a ton.
And not that tired old double-safety blitz that has now got 2 DC’s and two HC’s fired.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Agreed, if you are not a taxpayer, you should not vote…Why should someone else vote on matters of other peoples money?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Fvck this.. enjoy your blather.. out
January 24th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
like Palmer was the only guy who couldn’t wait to get out of cincy. And that’s AFTER leading them to the playoffs twice.
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Yup…the other guys that wanted out were:
Ocho Cinco
TJ Housh
Great company
January 24th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Biden is looking around for his scotch & soda
January 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Lost in here so far, is this dude sharpened his teeth and rose up the NFL coaching ranks, coaching stellar secondary play.
Clearly, a major fkn problem last year for us.
Great job Reggie!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
The greatness of the Raiders can be found with Terrelle Pryor.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
marader508 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Agreed, if you are not a taxpayer, you should not vote…Why should someone else vote on matters of other peoples money?
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Bingo. And repeal the ban on a poll tax.
And institute a basic civics test before you can vote.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Allen was a GREAT hire.
The Check Cashers better get ready to roll. This guy will be able to run the defense at an NFL caliber…1st time ever.
If Allen keeps Saunders then that would be great….if he lets him roll on and gets his own guy…that would be great too.
Great job Reggie…..
Now go find some young, hungry college players and free agents to replace these check cashers!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
“Hell Yeah RaiderNation we now have a coach. Time to go clip this beard and then shave. “I’m so excited. And I just can’t hide it.”
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Your girlfriend or wife will appreciate it.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Dems don’t even think its necessary to show I.D when you vote and you want a civics test?
lmao
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Sweep The Leg. Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
And institute a basic civics test before you can vote.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
So what Bay Area scribe will get the first quote from Dennis?
Over/under on how long it will take to get said quote?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
I dont love the hire…but i am warming up to it…Lets see what he can do…Its a new era of Raider football , and glad to be apart of it…Im not saying we win a SB with Allen , but i think some people also need to chill, and quit ranting on how we are going to suck for 5 more years now…No one knows how this will pan out… sit back and support the team…
January 24th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Reggie should trade Palmer to 49ers for 1st rounder. Pryor is the future, might as well play him.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
KNBR fool just called him David Allen.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
And not that tired old double-safety blitz that has now got 2 DC’s and two HC’s fired.
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Thank goodness!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I have confidence Jerry has at least attempted to contact Dennis Allen, his agent or Mr. Herrera for some accessibility.
Corkran? He is probalby watching Kenny Powers eating a microwave chicken dinner.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Tommy Kelly, Kamerion Wimbley, Stanford Routt, Michael Huff need to get their agents on the phone
January 24th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
So what Bay Area scribe will get the first quote from Dennis?
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Gutierrez is in Alabama with them, so pretty easy money says it will be him.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Clean house Reggie!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
This kid better hire the right Coordinators and Assistants and they better be GOOD!
Or else this kid Allen is going to be overwhelmed.
I hope he also realizes they if he is going show more 4-3 looks, than Wimbley needs to moved to line into the full time down RDE spot so he can concentrate and focus on doing on what he does best and that is rush the passer and cause disruption in the backfield.
Then he needs to add at LEAST two more OLB’s and one that can push McClain to be better and compete with him.
He also needs to keep Saunders, Wylie and Wiz on the offensive side of ball and keep Bones as special teams coach.
He needs to replace Brad Roll as strength and conditioning coach. He stinks.
Only coach on D he maaaaaaybe should consider keeping is Woodson…the rest can kick rocks.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Maybe D-Allen will move Lamar Houston to DT where he belongs and get nice fat NT to stop the run while ShoNasty and Moss take care of the DE spots.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
The people most ripping on this hire are the ones who don’t know anything about him.
The ones that DO know him, and who played for him are all saying it’s a great move.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
You right Luvmarvhub. The wife can’t wait.
And to the comment about our blitz will be much better next year. I’m all for that. Blitzing the safety from the punt return position was killing us this season.
Allen will take one look at that on film and call his wife to say “Honey you’re not gonna believe some of these blitzes Bresnahan pulled down the stretch this season.”
January 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I can’t wait to hear the presser. Will it be the same old BS we have heard from last 5 coaches? Or maybe something meaningful?
This kid Allen better hire the right Coordinators and Assistants and they better be GOOD! Hey maybe be a good talker do win the interview process, but can hire the right coordinators and assistants and can things done and make this team more disciplined?
If he doesn’t hire the right coordinators and assistant coaches this kid Allen is going to be overwhelmed.
I hope he also realizes they if he is going show more 4-3 looks, than Wimbley needs to moved to line into the full time down RDE spot so he can concentrate and focus on doing on what he does best and that is rush the passer and cause disruption in the backfield.
Then he needs to add at LEAST two more OLB’s and one that can push McClain to be better and compete with him.
He also needs to keep Saunders, Wylie and Wiz on the offensive side of ball and keep Bones as special teams coach.
He needs to replace Brad Roll as strength and conditioning coach. He stinks.
Only coach on D he maaaaaaybe should consider keeping is Woodson…the rest can kick rocks.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Rod Woodson is on NFLN network and I doubt he will coach again.
Interesting quote from him the week of the San Diego game:
“Plus, I want to influence these guys on and off the field. A lot of these guys are younger, getting a lot more money faster than when I played. And I think a lot of these guys are lost. Can I make a difference? I don’t know. But I’m going to try.”
January 24th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Dems don’t even think its necessary to show I.D when you vote and you want a civics test?
lmao
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If ANY test was required to be passed before voting, you would never be able to vote on anything you dumb POS.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
New team Doctor should be Dr. Scholl’s.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
241 –
I just think some of the old Al Davis lovers , cant get over the fact.. Reggie fired the Al guy and brought in his own….the cant move on from Davis…Then you got the flip side of tht , like sully who wants to believe mark davis , is now a meddler…Davis haunts our fans
January 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
The people most ripping on this hire are the ones who don’t know anything about him.
The ones that DO know him, and who played for him are all saying it’s a great move.
^^^^^^^
This organizations reputation when it comes to coaches is pretty freakin bad.
Have to pray McK and this kid Allen can actually stick around for 3 years.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
352.505raiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
rod woodson came aboard out of respect for al davis and the situation of his secondary woodson knew they were horrible and he tried to make them better woodson didnt need the job but you can only do so much with our crappy secondary not including branch gio and huff who actually looked as if someone was coaching them up a bit
January 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
504, is your wife hot?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
I can’t wait to hear the presser. Will it be the same old BS we have heard from last 5 coaches? Or maybe something meaningful?
This kid Allen better hire the right Coordinators and Assistants and they better be GOOD! Hey maybe be a good talker do win the interview process, but can hire the right coordinators and assistants and can things done and make this team more disciplined?
If he doesn’t hire the right coordinators and assistant coaches this kid Allen is going to be overwhelmed.
I hope he also realizes they if he is going show more 4-3 looks, than Wimbley needs to moved to line into the full time down RDE spot so he can concentrate and focus on doing on what he does best and that is rush the passer and cause disruption in the backfield.
Then he needs to add at LEAST two more OLB’s and one that can push McClain to be better and compete with him.
He also needs to keep Saunders, Wylie and Wiz on the offensive side of ball and keep Bones as special teams coach.
He needs to replace Brad Roll as strength and conditioning coach. He stinks.
Only coach on D he maaaaaaybe should consider keeping is Woodson…the rest can kick rocks!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I just picture our “D”, and those on its roster – losers, rejects, submissive, non-playmakers, something the bag lady scrounged in the local dumpster; includes Chuckie too.
And Hue the Pimpin Magnificient didn’t have the courage to stand up to AL, (nor the smarts to manipulate him)regarding the D, a dissapated old fart, delusional, who showed up half-dead in public with oozing facial sores.
I see members of the “D” as lady-boys, gay, mouth kissing with Jerry Sandusky, his pants down around his ankles, and it makes me sick.
Just think about the the ebony sub-moron McClain, who Pimpin proclaimed as Captain of the “D”. He gains a $25M contract and is arrested for gunplay on his x-high school friend when he was supposed to attending his grandfather’s funeral.
If you wonder why we lost those leads consider the sub-moron described above: complete lack of intelligence and football savvy, beady little animal eyes, sluffed off chiny and a nasty goatee.
Welcome to gay world: Oakland’s “D”; the sub-moron, boyd, shepard, worthless cb’s and defensive line, and most of all a DC, washed up and worthless in and of himself.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Woodson coached the DB’s, and chimed in that they are making a lot of money, are lost personally, and he is not sure if he can help them.
Was he talking about the DB’s or other guys on defense or on the team?
Where’s the read-between-the-lines team?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
245.504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
New team Doctor should be Dr. Scholl’s.
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LOL get mcfadden some gellin soles so he can be gellin not breaking his ankle
January 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Dennis Allen brings a fresh, clean slate.
Defensive minded. Hard core disiplinarian. Young. According to players he knows how to get thru to them. Won’t tolerate the b.s.
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All it’ll take is a disiplinarian. When you add up the yardage we gave away with flags, thats what, maybe another 3 wins?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Let’s hope this Dennis Allen comes in swinging his ax handle: first one he clips upside the head in Richard Seymour, big jackazz, can’t do anything except gain 15 yd unsportsman penalites.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I wonder if the mantra for this coach will be “MY GUY”? lol
January 24th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Hue was fired because Mark was havin a bad hair day. Nuff said.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Send sub-moron McClain back to queer nation with a banana between his teeth.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
258
that did make LOL
January 24th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Hope Allen has some pimp hand.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Or maybe sub-moron will get capped this offseason, down in Alabama and save us paying the balance of his contract. Of course we know he has 5 lil chillens, from 5 different hoes, all as big as westinghouse refrigerators, so they’ll make a claim against the balance of sub-moron’s estate.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
McClain is going to ball this season.
All you haters are being tallied.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Wow, KNBR is a fking joke, does any Raider fans in the bayarea ever listen to these fools?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Man. Can you imagine the pressure Reggie and His Guy Allen are gonna be under just to get to 9-7? And that is not a guarenteed ticket to the post either. Not in this division. Gonna be funky whack.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Wow, KNBR is a fking joke, does any Raider fans in the bayarea ever listen to these fools?
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KNBR blows ass.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
509Raider Says:
“Hope Allen has some pimp hand.”
Maybe Reg can bring back Hue the Pimpin Magnificient on the sly. Hue has an expert pimpin hand. All Reggie has to do is supply the ax handle so Pimpin can clean out the “D”, all w/ax handle upside the head. After that, give Pimpin a lil sack full of cash, a slap on his big fanny, and a high 5…..
Problem solved.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Mista…what dry ass. Speech will Dumbama make tonight?…..”Americans blah blah blah blah and our resolve and hope for a better America blah blah blah blah….let’s shoot hoops and work on our dance moves”
Ignorant dumbass, I bet ur part of the dumbass section of our country that make less then 40k a year, barely graduated high school and vote republican because your daddy told you too. Get a clue or just don’t vote.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
I live in the Rocky mtn area and watched every Denver Broncos game this season from beginning to end. I saw a Denver defense that was seen as the weakness of the team at the beginning of the season that turned into a pretty good unit by seasons end. If anyont thinks Tim Tebow was the man responsible for the Broncos winning the division, they are crazy. The defense is as much to credit for their season as Tebow is. I like the Dennis Allen hiring and it’s about time we had a defensive minded coach to lead this team. The Autumn Wind is blowing in a different direction next year and this is going to be a good defense soon.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
9-7 is acceptable
8-8 with a playoff win is acceptable
anything less will suck
January 24th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Stevah, can we puhleeeze get that transcript of Reggahs interview with ah Allen puhleeeze?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
# realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Wow, KNBR is a fking joke, does any Raider fans in the bayarea ever listen to these fools?
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I gave up on KNBR years ago. Even though The Game has its problems,,,they are by far better than KNBR.
Heck even the Sac station The Fan is better than KNBR!
Radnich needs to retire, Barbieri needs to retire or forced to resign and Fitz needs to be Fired!!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Wow, KNBR is a fking joke, does any Raider fans in the bayarea ever listen to these fools?
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What’s KNBR?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
262.Just Fire Baby Says, #262:
“McClain is going to ball this season.
All you haters are being tallied.”
We are being tallied; tallied by whom?? Certainly not you my erudite friend. Sub-moron won’t “ball” anything next season except a stink hoe at the end of line…once she pulls the scabs and the pus flows.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
The race is on baby. 9-7 or bust.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
DKnight007…. whats the best sports talk radio covering Raider football?…I live in MASS , and would like to see if they have an app i could get , to listen when im working out…thanks in advance
January 24th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Seymour, KNBR is the San Francisco sports station.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
The only coach we should keep is Fassel. Saunders is ok but its not like we really need the consistency. Palmer hasnt been here very long and our wide recievers dont run very good routes anyway.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I was hoping that Reggie would have at least interviewed with the whiners DC, only because they had a top ranked defense. However very glad that Reggie did not hire another retread. I feel we need someone fresh and new and most of all if true, I like hearing that Allen is not afraid to get into a player’s face; this is what is needed with our lazy players.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
I can’t wait to hear the presser. Will it be the same old BS we have heard from last 5 coaches? Or maybe something meaningful? Or maybe it will meaningful BS?
This kid Allen better hire the right Coordinators and Assistants and they better be GOOD! He may be a good talker to win the interview process, but can he hire the right coordinators and assistants and can he things done and make this team more disciplined?
If he doesn’t hire the right coordinators and assistant coaches this kid Allen is going to be overwhelmed.
I hope he also realizes that if he is going show more 4-3 looks, than Wimbley needs to move the to line into the full time down RDE spot so he can concentrate and focus on doing what he does best and that is rush the passer and cause disruption in the backfield.
Then he needs to add at LEAST two more OLB’s and one that can push McClain to be better and to compete with him.
It would be advisable and wise for him to keep Saunders, Wylie and Wiz on the offensive side of ball and keep Bones as special teams coach also.
He needs to replace Brad Roll as strength and conditioning coach. He stinks! He also needs to hire quality control coaches and film analysts on both sides of the ball.
Only coach on D he maaaaaaybe should consider keeping is Woodson…the rest can kick rocks!!
I would love to see McK hire Mike Mayock as his head personnel man! Mayock works his butt off!
January 24th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
John Tweedy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Comprehensive illegal immigration policy = amnesty
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(Read in lispy liberal voice.)
This is a nation of immigrants you RACIST.
Actually, a large portion of our Citizens are offspring of people that were captured and brought here by force, then Sold at Auction to the highest bidder.
So if you are from one of these Tribes please understand you are NOT an immigrant at all you are a… Well your a JaMistaJig or a JaMethod
January 24th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
We got us a new sheriff in town. Hope hes got the nuts to clean the place up. Toss out the deadwood. Whos that you ask? Just look at trash soon enough.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
249.TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
504, is your wife hot?
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Of course she is. The creole type. She’s from the 7th ward. Only people from here know what that means. Basically a certain breed of blacks who are light skinned with straight (good hair) hair like hispanics. She could pass for someone from Hawaii or Belize.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
# marader508 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
DKnight007…. whats the best sports talk radio covering Raider football?…I live in MASS , and would like to see if they have an app i could get , to listen when im working out…thanks in advance
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There is no best Raider station and that has been a problem for quite sometime.
No flagship Raider station and it is a waste.
You have to listen to 95.7fm The Game for decent Raider talk and even the 1140am The Fan from Sacramento is an alternative.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Just Win Baby, # 268:
That’s right Baby, I remember the 1st game with the Broncos, McGlassden ran right over them for 150 yds. By the time Allen came onboard for the 2nd game they gave us a solid whuppin: held to 100 yds rushing.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
284 – whatever happen to JT the Brick?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
sorry to hear fluffer the professor been cryin ever since the 09ers lost. well, not really sorry. just laughin so hard i think i broke a nut vessel.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Westboro Baptist Church is going to protest Paterno’s funeral. What a bunch of losers. I would like to see all of those freaks mowed down with an Uzi.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
i suppose the professor wants the giants to forfiet the game so the 09ers can go to the super bowl, but it don’t work that way sack muncher.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
249.TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
504, is your wife hot?
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Of course she is. The creole type. She’s from the 7th ward. Only people from here know what that means. Basically a certain breed of blacks who are light skinned with straight (good hair) hair like hispanics. She could pass for someone from Hawaii or Belize.
$$$$$$$$$$
She is from the 7th ward. Does that means she is a hooker?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RealJRock2 Jamarcus Russell
First day officially enrolled back in LSU… Moms is too excited!!
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Good for you Jamarcus. Get that education.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
His resume reads like ‘Steve Spagnuolo-lite’… There better be more there than meets the eye.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
“Defensive collapses against Buffalo, Denver and San Diego in the season finale helped keep the Raiders out of the playoffs.”
Don’t forget the defensive collapse against Detroit and the near collapse in Minnesota against a Peterson-less Vikings team.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Wow, we got what, our 9th coach in 11 years? Whoooaa. I’ll believe when I see it. Go get’em. That’s all I got time to say. Got to get back to drivin long haul. Big Rig. 18-wheeler. Truck stops and candy shops.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
249.TP Killa Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
504, is your wife hot?
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Of course she is. The creole type. She’s from the 7th ward. Only people from here know what that means. Basically a certain breed of blacks who are light skinned with straight (good hair) hair like hispanics. She could pass for someone from Hawaii or Belize.
So you are saying the best thing about your Black Wife is that she does not resemble a typical Black girl?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
HAS JOHN HERRERA PUT HIS OK ON THIS YET?
January 24th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
wow it is a “new-era” indeed. raiders hire a discplinarian defensve-minded coach. wish allen the best. don’t his plan but part of it is to change the nonsense ehae we in the nation have witnessed year in and year out. the same dumb stupid pernalties over and over and over again.
penalties that would kill drives. penalties thar would keep opposing teams on the field. penalties that costed us way to many games.
everybody outside of the organization know this.
that’s what got hue fired. he hadan opportunity to bring discipline he failed. didn’t seem like it mattered.
i like how reggie mac. is going againstthe grain. he said he wants football players,and to play as a football team. when did we see the raiders on defense as a ream attack the ball, gang tackle, 11 hats to the ball. we are always so out of position all the time. can’t tackle the running-back safties never in position to naske plays.
this for years. i think reggie knows this. madden knows this. he’s found his coach now lets find the players who got some mutha-f—en heart. …………. GO RAIDERS
January 24th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Code Black
January 24th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Problem with this team the last decade has been defense. Finally raiders hire a defensive minded coach nation should be happy. Hiring offensive head coaches has not worked for this team hello have you seen the last decade. I’ve seen nothing but great things said about him. Defense defense defense us what we need and know the coach in place finally.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
HAS JOHN HERRERA PUT HIS OK ON THIS YET?
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Not sure, but he probably went out and got some kfc and BK after hearing the news.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Does “creole type” mean they started as French Slaves? Just asking. Real Talk.
January 24th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Mannnn I’d kill for some KC Cole Slaw rite now
January 24th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
*KFC
January 24th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RaidahRaidah Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
HAS JOHN HERRERA PUT HIS OK ON THIS YET?
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Not sure, but he probably went out and got some kfc and BK after hearing the news.
Did he run into JaMista and JaMethod there?
January 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
TP Killa and David Duke,
I see I can’t answer non football questions with you guys. So I’ll stick to Raiders Only with you two.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Raiders hire Allen to replace fired Jackson
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, January 24th, 2012 at 5:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders have reached agreement with Dennis Allen to be their head coach, according to Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer.
Allen and Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie met for a second time in Mobile, Ala., on Tuesday and hammered out the details of a contract that will make Allen the franchise’s 18th coach — Art Shell had two stints.
The Raiders have not commented on Glazer’s report, which later was reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter. A news conference introducing Allen likely will take place in Alameda before week’s end. McKenzie still is in Alabama for the lead up to the Senior Bowl.
Allen, 39, was the Denver Broncos defensive coordinator last season. Under his guidance, the Broncos defense improved from 29th in average yards allowed to 20th and from 32nd in points to 24th.
He also interviewed for the St. Louis Rams coaching vacancy, which ultimately went to Jeff Fisher. Allen also has coached the secondary and defensive line during his 10-year NFL coaching career. He has spent time with the Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints and Broncos.
McKenzie said the day he was introduced as the Raiders general manager that he fired Hue Jackson, in part, because he wanted “my guy.” In the end, McKenzie hired a guy in Allen in which he has no previous ties.
Allen is well regarded in NFL coaching circles as bright, energetic, hard-working and driven to succeed. He inherits a Raiders team that went 8-8 the past two seasons but has no winning seasons since 2002, when they advanced to the Super Bowl.
Late Raiders managing general partner Al Davis favored offensive-minded coaches. John Madden in 1969 was the last coach hired by the Raiders with an offensive-based background.
Allen will have sole authority to hire the coaches on his staff. Offensive coordinator Al Saunders has a strong shot at sticking around so that Allen can go about the process of improving the Raiders without having to worry too much about that side of the ball.
It’s defense where the Raiders need the most work, and that happens to be Allen’s specialty. The Raiders allowed 31 touchdowns passes last season, 5.1 yards per carry and the third-most points in franchise history (431).
Allen employed a 4-3 defensive scheme with the Broncos last season. McKenzie said he favors whichever scheme works best.
For now, the Raiders personnel is best suited to running the 4-3. We’ll wait until speaking with Allen to see what his intentions are along those lines.
Here’s how Allen described what he expected from the Broncos defense before last season, in an interview with the Broncos website: “We’re going to be built off speed and athleticism. We want to be a very fast, violent, aggressive type of defense.”
McKenzie fired Jackson on Jan. 10 and immediately set about identifying the best person to help the Raiders emerge from their nine-year funk.
He also interviewed Todd Bowles (Dolphins), Marty Mornhinweg (Eagles), Pete Carmichael Jr. (Saints) and Winston Moss Packers). Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy, Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice and Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers also surfaced as potential candidates, though none interviewed.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Out: The coach who went 8-8 spearheading the 9th ranked offense this season.
In: The guy who went 8-8 leading the 20th ranked defense.
Out: The guy took over a unit that was 31st in ppg and transformed them to 6th in ppg in his first season as OC.
In: The guy who took over a unit that was 32nd in ppg allowed and transformed them into 24th in ppg allowed in his first season as DC.
Yup. Makes sense … if you’re a borderline illiterate Chubby Checker look-a-like.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Like I’ve been saying for 2 weeks!!
Hire a Defensive HC, that is tough, no-nonsense, and will fix our lazy, overpaid defensive players and fix the stupid penalty issue!!
He worked with John Fox and knows Defense, which has been our Achilles heal for 9 years!!
Last year we gave up 433 points, second most in Franchise history!!
Keep Al Saunders, our offense will only get better, period!
On top of that, we hire a coach from the Division winner!!
We will own this Division, as we have the last 2 years, but now we will actually Win the West!!
New Era Baby!!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Well if we keep Saunders at least we can probably build on last year. Our Defense will get better and hopefully our offense will at least remain at the same level or better. That would equal playoffs.
Depends on keeping Saunders and who we bring in as D-Coordinator.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Out: The coach who went 8-8 spearheading the 9th ranked offense this season.
In: The guy who went 8-8 leading the 20th ranked defense.
Out: The guy took over a unit that was 31st in ppg and transformed them to 6th in ppg in his first season as OC.
In: The guy who took over a unit that was 32nd in ppg allowed and transformed them into 24th in ppg allowed in his first season as DC.
Yup. Makes sense … if you’re a borderline illiterate Chubby Checker look-a-like.
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Doesn’t make sense. But I really think it was Reggies first directive if he wanted the job.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Many of his former players are saying many good things about him, Champ called him very good teacher! Let’s see as this goes down! Pre-season…didn’t Hue go 0-4? Really doesn’t matter…but the key will be who he hires as OC and DC! Let’s wait and see!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Our new HC spent alot more time with Sean Payton and Gregg Williams than he did John Fox. So if anything he’s a Gregg Williams disciple. Spent a year with Wade Phillips too.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Oakland Raiders To Do List:
1) Find someone who can actually handle modern personnel matters—-check
2) Get rid of POS who could not find a way to win games because he was getting his nails done——check
3) Find replacement for POS who can figure out a way to stop opponents from breaking big run after big run—–check
4) Have personnel guy go to Senior Bowl and start finding new replacements for “On Field POS’s” that don’t give a fukk.—–check
5) Start 2012 Season
January 24th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Our new HC spent alot more time with Sean Payton and Gregg Williams than he did John Fox. So if anything he’s a Gregg Williams disciple. Spent a year with Wade Phillips too.
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I think he spent more time with Gibbs than Gregg Williams when Gibbs was the DC down there. Still, any time spent with Sean Payton, Gregg Williams and Wade Phillips can only help.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Guys,
We hired from in the Division, Reggie’s a Smart Dude!
Allen and the Dinks beat SD, Us, and KC, on the Road!!!
That Defense for those games played really good.
They shut us out in the second half.
They held Rivers to under 14.
They beat KC when there offense completed 2 passes!!
Defensive HC from our Division, Genius!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
I remember when Saints won SB and Tracey Porter described his pick 6 off Peyton Manning. He said his position coach kept showing him all the favorite throws that Manning likes throughout a game and a particular route from the receiver. Porter said when he saw the exact route being run by the WR that a lightbulb went off in his head about what Allen was talking about. So he (Porter) went straight to the spot and sure enough the ball was there.
Game, Set, Match.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
303 I am pretty excited about this hire. This is another SOLID HIRE.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
I am really proud of Jamarcus for going back to school.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Out: The coach who went 8-8 spearheading the 9th ranked offense this season.
In: The guy who went 8-8 leading the 20th ranked defense.
Out: The guy took over a unit that was 31st in ppg and transformed them to 6th in ppg in his first season as OC.
In: The guy who took over a unit that was 32nd in ppg allowed and transformed them into 24th in ppg allowed in his first season as DC.
Yup. Makes sense … if you’re a borderline illiterate Chubby Checker look-a-like.
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BS.
Out – the guy who took the team to 8-8 that finished 8-8 the season before!
IN – the guy who improved his defense from 32nd in the league while having an offense that completes 9 passes per game.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Seymour Bush:
For sure Bro! I live in Denver. They are pissed out here that WE hired him! I LOVE it!!
Tough Minded, No Nonsense coach like Coughlin, Belicheck, John Harbaugh..
January 24th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Glad to see Allen as coach. Hack Jackson was putting the shackles on Pryor because of his boy Palmer. Hopefully Allen sees Pryor’s talent and lets that boy loose.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Seymour,
He was with the Saints from 2006-10. That would put 2 years with Gibbs and 2 years with Williams.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Out: The coach who went 8-8 spearheading the 9th ranked offense this season.
In: The guy who went 8-8 leading the 20th ranked defense.
Out: The guy took over a unit that was 31st in ppg and transformed them to 6th in ppg in his first season as OC.
In: The guy who took over a unit that was 32nd in ppg allowed and transformed them into 24th in ppg allowed in his first season as DC.
Yup. Makes sense … if you’re a borderline illiterate Chubby Checker look-a-like.
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Yea imagine Hue with another year to build on his rookie season as a Head Coach and his own guys for assistants. We would be in the process of truly building something. Now we’re starting over again with a less qualified coordinator-promoted-to-first-time-Head-Coach. Let’s just hope Allen gets more than 1 year to build his team….psssh yea right it’s playoffs this year or we’re looking for another new coach, again.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Now we don’t have to depend on our Offense so much.
Carson doesn’t have to be a SuperHero where last year he KNEW his defense sucked do he was forcing throws.
We will stop people and wear them out on Offense with the Run, and then throw deep when they are tired with some Play Action Bombs!!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Regardless, Raiders should be better next year with McFadden returning, Carson Palmer getting a full off-season and camp to gel with the team and a competent leader for the defense.
Of course, keeping Hue and hiring a legitimate defensive coordinator — which Hue was planning to do — would’ve been a better route. But, it is what it is.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Who was more at fault for the Jets offensive demise:
Brian Schottenhimer or Mark Sanchez
January 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
According to a saints blog the year Allen left them they went from the 4th ranked pass defense to the 30th ranked pass defense.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Of course, that’s assuming Reggie doesn’t trade McFadden for a 3rd round pick and Palmer to recoup our 2013 2nd rounder.
The way he was so eager to downgrade at the HC position you really can’t put moves like that past him.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Out: The coach who went 8-8 spearheading the 9th ranked offense this season.
In: The guy who went 8-8 leading the 20th ranked defense.
Out: The guy took over a unit that was 31st in ppg and transformed them to 6th in ppg in his first season as OC.
In: The guy who took over a unit that was 32nd in ppg allowed and transformed them into 24th in ppg allowed in his first season as DC.
Yup. Makes sense … if you’re a borderline illiterate Chubby Checker look-a-like.
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Out: coach who scoring offense went down considerably even with better players.
In: coach who improved defense considerably even tho offense led the league in fumbles and was at the bottom in passing O.
Out: coach who made promise after promise that never came true.
In: Coach who didn’t promise anything, yet made it to 2nd round of playoffs.
I may not be a borderline illiterate Chubby Checker look alike, but it makes perfect sense to me.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Lets go coach Allen…get the D up to its potential!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Who was more at fault for the Jets offensive demise:
Brian Schottenhimer or Mark Sanchez
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Mark Sanchez. Teams realized that Sanchez doesn’t have the strongest arm, is inaccurate at the boundaries and gets rattled easier than you would think.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Sanchez is terrible…and it couldnt of happen to a better guy!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Seymour,
He was with the Saints from 2006-10. That would put 2 years with Gibbs and 2 years with Williams.
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thank you. I really don’t get much of a chance to follow the Saint’s coming and goings. Thank you for the corrections.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Out: A guy who fiddled while his team set an all-time NFL record for penalties.
In: A guy with a rep as a disciplinarian.
Out: A guy who’s having a hard time getting a position coach job.
In: A guy who probably finished second to Jeff Fisher for the St. Louis job.
Sounds good so far!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Out: coach who made promise after promise that never came true.
In: Coach who didn’t promise anything, yet made it to 2nd round of playoffs.
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Wow really? Hue takes the blame for no playoffs with no mention of d-coordinators failure? Broncos make it to 2nd round with all praises due to their d-coordinator and no mention of their head coach? You may not be chubby checkered or illiterate but you might be insane.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Denver fans not happy. Saints fans still miss him. All good signs.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
326.Dakota Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
According to a saints blog the year Allen left them they went from the 4th ranked pass defense to the 30th ranked pass defense.
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This is true. And the Natives here were screaming for Gregg Williams’ head. Fisher getting the STL job saved Gregg Williams alot of embarrasment because Payton was going to fire him. There was not one once of resistence from Payton when Fisher came calling for Williams. I wouldn’t doubt if Payton told Williams to keep in touch with Fisher so he doesn’t get someone else. A Times-Picayune writer did an article defending Williams defense that it was not to blame for the loss to the 49ers. The loss of Dennis Allen was more of a factor than anything for the Saints this year.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
CHRIS IN NY,IT IS WHAT IT IS.WE WLL NEVER KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF HUE WAS KEPT AS COACH/GM.WE AS FANS CAN ONLY DEAL WITH WHAT WHOM EVER IS IN CHARGE GIVES US IN THE WAY OF STAFF AND PLAYERS.I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS SOMETIMES,BUT AS A FELLOW RAIDER NATION MEMBER,I APPRECIATE YOUR FIRE 4 THIS TEAM..
January 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
This is what we can expect from OUR defense this year. Smarter defenders swarming to the ball. The man with the ball will be stood up while one or two guys strip the ball out.
That’s what Allen brought to the Saints and Donkeys.
Allen does not care as much about yards as he does putting the QB on the ground and creating turnovers.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Raider 510 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Out: coach who made promise after promise that never came true.
In: Coach who didn’t promise anything, yet made it to 2nd round of playoffs.
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Wow really? Hue takes the blame for no playoffs with no mention of d-coordinators failure? Broncos make it to 2nd round with all praises due to their d-coordinator and no mention of their head coach? You may not be chubby checkered or illiterate but you might be insane.
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Hue’s scoring offense went down. That put extreme pressure on the Raider defense. Look at the playoff defenses that collapsed. (See playoffs, 2011, NFL, Saints, 49ers, Patriots, Texans). The Bronco defensive unit was the one thing that kept them in games this season. So the credit would have to go to the lst year coordinator, don’t you think? I may not be insane but I know more football than you.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
While I agree that Sanchez is horrible, I also think Schottenheimer is bad too. And that fool got hired over Hue for a job.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Responses on MileHighReport.com
i am glad that i cant reach a gun…
Fire john fox and keep allen… Or SWITCH THEM LET FOXY BE Defensive coach man. dont let our best coach walk to our BIGGEST rivals.
by garetrose on Jan 24, 2012 8:25 PM MST up reply
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O M G
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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They don’t deserve this guy
the fans barely know who he is and have been talking smack about him today on their site. It’s pathetic how these losers are in for a pleasant surprise.
This is a big loss for us. I had high hopes for the D next year.
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
by Horsepower on Jan 24, 2012 7:17 PM MST up reply
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Allen go the absolute best out of our talent
He had our D playing outstanding football. Screw the stats. He had our defense playing at a high enough level to get us to the playoffs.
It’s a big loss seeing him go…to the Raiders nonetheless.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
We don’t know, but it’s possible the Rams may have even preferred to hire Allen, but with Fisher in the mix it would have been impossible to do so.
Imagine what the media, fans etc. would have said if they’d hired Allen turned down Fisher.
There would have been anarchy in the streets and most certainly a public humiliation of the Rams GM.
Not saying Allen is a better choice than Fisher, just saying it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to hire Allen even if they thought he would be a better in the long run.
The Rams are also fighting public apathy in St. Louis as well. They HAD to hire Fisher over him.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I enjoy all of the different viewpoints. The fact is Mark Davis is now the owner of the team and he chose Reggie McKenzie to run the team. Reggie wanted to pick a Head Coach that he could believe in. He could not believe in “the gambler” Hue, who wanted alot of power for somebody that only understood offense. I think it is extremely refreshing to have a Head Coach with a background in defense. It is a new era in Raider football, hopefully one that starts with a winning season!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
CHRIS IN NY,IT IS WHAT IT IS.WE WLL NEVER KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF HUE WAS KEPT AS COACH/GM.WE AS FANS CAN ONLY DEAL WITH WHAT WHOM EVER IS IN CHARGE GIVES US IN THE WAY OF STAFF AND PLAYERS.I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS SOMETIMES,BUT AS A FELLOW RAIDER NATION MEMBER,I APPRECIATE YOUR FIRE 4 THIS TEAM..
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I know most of you do not agree with this but the team regressed badly. I know you all are going to say how is 8-8 a regression from 8-8, at which point I am going to say 3-3 in the division is a HUGE regression from 6-0. And we had momentum. And we had a better team this year. The team played very poorly in the end. If not for Richard Seymour making a couple of outstanding plays, this team should have been 5-11. We are going to be a MUCH BETTER team next year. Jackson couldn’t get a coin flip right. Jackson couldn’t go for two when he needed. Jackson could not get plays in. Jackson blew timeouts left and right. That is the sign of a disorganized coach who was in over his head.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Chris,
During the bolshevik revolution the new leaders had to murder czar Nicholas II and his family in order to move on.
Mckenzie had to sacrifice hue and nearly the entire staff in order to purge the raiders of the malignancy in the organization that AL had created over the years, and which hue was the last vestige thereof.
Had to be done, so get over it.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Allen needs to get on a plane and head down to Hattiesburg with a bag of $ as his first order of duty.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Dennis Allen getting the job has to say everything about him and that we got the right guy.
Reggie said that if he ever was put in a position to hire a coach it would be Moss. Well that was until he came across Allen who knocked his socks off.
This is exactly what happened to the Steelers when they interviewed Tomlin. They were like lets get this Rooney Rule out the way and have a conversation with this guy.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Raider 510 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Out: coach who made promise after promise that never came true.
In: Coach who didn’t promise anything, yet made it to 2nd round of playoffs.
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Wow really? Hue takes the blame for no playoffs with no mention of d-coordinators failure? Broncos make it to 2nd round with all praises due to their d-coordinator and no mention of their head coach? You may not be chubby checkered or illiterate but you might be insane.
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Hue’s scoring offense went down. That put extreme pressure on the Raider defense. Look at the playoff defenses that collapsed. (See playoffs, 2011, NFL, Saints, 49ers, Patriots, Texans). The Bronco defensive unit was the one thing that kept them in games this season. So the credit would have to go to the lst year coordinator, don’t you think? I may not be insane but I know more football than you.
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Scoring offense was actually up from last year thru six games before McFadden went down and we had to shift QBs on the fly. Carson Palmer was out there playing with virtually no experience with his WRs and admittedly knowing only 10% of the playbook. McFadden is one of the most dynamic players in the league at any position. Ford and Moore missed significant time. This is why the offense slipped a little from 2010 when Hue took over.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
#344.
Seymour, don’t expect that Allen won’t make some of the same mistakes his rookie year.
IMO Hue would’ve learned from his mistakes.
Belichek, with the big losing record he had when he started probably made alot of the same mistakes.
It is what is though and I am excited about this Allen guy.
Everything i’m reading and hearing about him sounds great.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
ASK ME ON 24-JAN.-2013 HOW I FEEL ABOUT MCKENZIE & ALLEN.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
346.djohnnyg Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Allen needs to get on a plane and head down to Hattiesburg with a bag of $ as his first order of duty.
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Nah, T Pryor is way better than Favre’s nephew.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Hue’s scoring offense went down. That put extreme pressure on the Raider defense. Look at the playoff defenses that collapsed. (See playoffs, 2011, NFL, Saints, 49ers, Patriots, Texans). The Bronco defensive unit was the one thing that kept them in games this season. So the credit would have to go to the lst year coordinator, don’t you think? I may not be insane but I know more football than you.
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Wrong. Our defense doesn’t completely collapse in buffalo, or doesn’t allow a 98 yard drive by Detroit and Hue brings this team to the playoffs. The O regressed? Uh yea, when the best player on offense goes down the O is gonna take a hit. Seymour Bush needs to see more reality.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
231. What a fool! Pryor can’t play QB in the NFL. Carson Palmer is the man for the Raiders!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Saying Allen is the right hire is reaching just a bit huh fellas.
Let’s see if he can get the right coordinators and assistants who are worth a damn and see how things happen in the field first.
We have seen coaches come and go around here for years. Its ridiculous!
I’m skeptical until crap gets cleaned up and winning happens on the field.
Allen has a lot of work to do.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Dennis Allen getting the job has to say everything about him and that we got the right guy.
Reggie said that if he ever was put in a position to hire a coach it would be Moss. Well that was until he came across Allen who knocked his socks off.
This is exactly what happened to the Steelers when they interviewed Tomlin. They were like lets get this Rooney Rule out the way and have a conversation with this guy.
So you are saying the Steelers knew a Black HC would never work? So they took a big chance and lucked out?
January 24th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Hue could not even get the coin toss right in his 1st decision. If that’s not a bad omen, I don’t know what is!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
From Mile High Report on Allen:
“He is considered one of the hottest coaching prospects in the NFL and should be a great hire for the division rival Raiders.”
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I can’t wait to hear the presser. Will it be the same old BS we have heard from the last 5 coaches? Or maybe something meaningful? Or maybe it will be meaningful BS? Lol!
This kid Allen better hire the right freakin Coordinators and Assistants and they better be GOOD!
He may be a good slick talker to win the interview process, but can he hire the right Coordinators and Assistants and can he get things done and make this team more disciplined? Can he earn the players respect?
If he doesn’t hire the right Coordinators and Assistant coaches, who know what they are doing, this kid Allen is going to be overwhelmed and this can get ugly real quick.
I hope he also realizes that if he is going show more 4-3 looks, than Wimbley needs to move to the line and into the full time down RDE spot so he can concentrate and focus on doing what he does best and that is rush the passer and cause disruption in the backfield.
Then he needs to add at LEAST two more OLB’s if not three and one that can push McClain to be a better pro and to compete with him.
It would be advisable and wise for him to keep Saunders as the OC, and Wylie and Wiz as the offensive line coaches and keep Bones Fassel as special teams coach also.
He needs to replace Brad Roll as strength and conditioning coach. He stinks! He also needs to hire quality control coaches and film analysts on both sides of the ball.
Only coach on D he maaaaaaybe should consider keeping is Woodson…the rest can kick rocks!!
I would love to see McK hire Mike Mayock as his head personnel man! Mayock works his butt off!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RaidersBlog Chris Hansen
Worth noting Greg Papa mentioned Aaron Kromer as potential OC a name I mentioned earlier today.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
355.John Tweedy Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Dennis Allen getting the job has to say everything about him and that we got the right guy.
Reggie said that if he ever was put in a position to hire a coach it would be Moss. Well that was until he came across Allen who knocked his socks off.
This is exactly what happened to the Steelers when they interviewed Tomlin. They were like lets get this Rooney Rule out the way and have a conversation with this guy.
So you are saying the Steelers knew a Black HC would never work? So they took a big chance and lucked out?
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No David Duke, they took him lightly and had their visions on other well known guys. Until he blew them away with his plan for the team. He was young and they didn’t think he was ready.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
From Mile High Report on Allen:
“He is considered one of the hottest coaching prospects in the NFL and should be a great hire for the division rival Raiders.”
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We all should know by now…especialy you Hue lovers…I mean haters….that talk is cheap.
The pressure is on McK and Allen now, to get this team over the .500 hump!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Kromar worked with Allen with the Saints. Great O-Line coach and RBs.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
# wasbanned Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RaidersBlog Chris Hansen
Worth noting Greg Papa mentioned Aaron Kromer as potential OC a name I mentioned earlier today.
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Now that is what I’m talking about!
Aaron Kromer is a young talent! I wanted him to considered as the HC here ahead of these other clowns!
January 24th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Del Rio to Denver
January 24th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
If Kromar comes aboard I hope it would be as O-Line/Asst HC. And keep Saunders as the OC.
I just don’t see Kromar as a good passing game coordinator..
January 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
504, of course they took him lightly, because he is Black.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Allen’s thoughts on the 2011 Raiders
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By Bill Williamson
New Oakland coach Dennis Allen will likely speak at length about his new team soon. However, we found (thanks to the Broncos public-relations staff) some comments he made about the Raiders during the 2011 season, when he was Denver’s defensive coordinator. Here is a sampling of his thoughts of the team he is about to take over:
On preparing for an Oakland team with a new quarterback in Carson Palmer:
“We don’t have a lot of new tape on him, but we’ve seen him a lot. I’ve played him in the past; he’s obviously an outstanding quarterback. With them having the bye week, I’m sure there will be a few new wrinkles that they’ll have for us, so we’ll have to be able to prepare for the unexpected and be able to react to it.”
On running back Darren McFadden and Oakland’s ground game:
“This guy is an outstanding player. He’s had a lot of 100-yard games against a lot of people. He’s one of the better backs in this league, but I think when you go back and look at last week’s game, he gets hurt, and they hand the ball off to [RB Michael] Bush, and I think he had about 100 yards rushing in the game. I think schematically what they do, their personnel allows them to be a really good running football team, and when you put a special talent like Darren McFadden back there, it makes it even that much better.”
On Oakland running back Taiwan Jones
“He’s extremely fast and extremely talented. He’s one of those guys that every time he gets the ball in his hands, he’s a threat to go all the way. Again, I see him a little bit more in the lines of McFadden, where you’ve got to make sure you set down the edges and not let him get to the boundary, not let him get outside on you. If you can do that, you’ve got a chance.”
January 24th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Good to see some structure starting up, instead of a paranoid, crotchety micromanager down to where the wastebaskets are placed being in charge. Next year won’t be great because not much in the cupboard, but at last the Raiders have an organization starting that will give some leeway to someone who’s bright. Looks like a good hire and things are looking up.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
U.S. 3
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January 24th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
#358
Sounds like Allen is not coming with your typical raw raw Go Raiders attitute like Hue.
This guy is from way out there. When asked earlier today what he thought about the Raider organization,
his response: We played them twice this year, they are good.
Thats about all he knows! Might be refreshing!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
BS.
Out – the guy who took the team to 8-8 that finished 8-8 the season before!
IN – the guy who improved his defense from 32nd in the league while having an offense that completes 9 passes per game.
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Even though they didn’t complete alot of passes, they ran the ball really good, My guess would be that there time of possesion was average.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Hagar the Horrible Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I doubt if Chubby Checkers’ new headcoach will be running “fake punts” that go for 48 yards, or “fake field goals” that go for long gains. Most coaches don’t have the bzlls.
I’ll watch the new coaching staff and I’ll wish them sucess because I’m a Raiders’ fan first. However, I wish we still had Hue and I would have liked to see how sucessful he could have been. I also like Wisnewski and Woodson as first year coaches and I hate to see us lose both of them.
Ya, thanks Chubby Checkers, you freaking idiot.
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This is how I feel.
Hue is one of the greatest playcallers I’ve ever seen. I’m dead serious about that.
It’s a given that the defense should be dramatically better next year. We had waaay too much talent on that side of the ball to be anywhere near the 29th-ranked D this past year.
The key will be on offense. A ton of talent there so even in my worst nightmare I don’t see us regressing to the pre-Hue days of averaging 10-12 ppg. But can whoever takes over the offense keep us at 25 ppg or more? That is the question. I think with Hue, Carson, a healthy McFadden, Ford, Moore and DHB all improved and more seasoned, an emerging o-line, Reece, Boss, etc. that this was a 30 ppg offense going into next year. We’ll see but whoever takes over the offense is filling some big shoes and there will be very big expectations … unless Chubby Checker blows it all up so he can get some extra draft picks for the continued sake of “bringing in his own guys.”
January 24th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
The O regressed? Uh yea, when the best player on offense goes down the O is gonna take a hit. Seymour Bush needs to see more reality.
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Tell that to the Houston Texans. Their Pro Bowl Q went out, then their 2nd string Q, their All Pro WR and the NFL leading rusher from last year. They made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. But of course their head Coach knew how to manage a game, when to go for two, not settle for Field Goals, and do the things it takes to win. Our guy didn’t. So he is gone.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
More from Mile High Report:
&^%$in #$^$lickin $$## holy #%##@!!!! Piss!!! Nuts!!!!
We get the first good D-Coordinator in what seems like 20 years… and he jets out to the Raiders after one season?
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I hate the Raiders even more now. Bunch of jackasses. There should be stealing of coaches within the same division. As a Bronco, Allan has a moral responsibility to not work for the Raiders.
At least that’s how it should work.
Now I have to root against him and hope that he fails miserably. Maybe he’ll only last eight games, like Shanny.
by Jason Witte on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 PM MST reply actions
January 24th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I for one was on the fence about whether Reggie kept Hue or not…and now he is replaced by another young guy but with a defensive background and with knowledge of how to beat one of our division rivals…
Whether we like the hire or not, it is all mute because it is done! All I can hope for is that this will be a good hire…it still remains to be seen! But if he can bring discipline to NFL’s most penalized team in History…might not be a bad idea! Give it time fellas!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
More from Mile High Report:
&^%$in #$^$lickin $$## holy #%##@!!!! Piss!!! Nuts!!!!
We get the first good D-Coordinator in what seems like 20 years… and he jets out to the Raiders after one season?
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I hate the Raiders even more now. Bunch of jackasses. There should be stealing of coaches within the same division. As a Bronco, Allan has a moral responsibility to not work for the Raiders. At least that’s how it should work.
Now I have to root against him and hope that he fails miserably. Maybe he’ll only last eight games, like Shanny.
by Jason Witte on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 PM MST reply actions
LOL, but it was ok to get Shanarat from us huh?
January 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Hue is one of the greatest playcallers I’ve ever seen. I’m dead serious about that.
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This is the thing that I don’t understand about some of you. Jackson’s play calling was ATROCIOUS! Now, I liked the fake FG’s and punts as well, but teams caught up to him. He did that the lst time against Cleveland I believe and he needed that fake to win that game.
Teams had no real tendencies on Jackson and the fakes caught teams by surprise. By week 8, teams knew Jackson was going to run reverses at times, and his tendencies and he really did not do very well. His halftime adjustments were non-existent and he got flat out coached in the 4th quarter of games. Unless somehow you guys are going to explain to me that goose eggs in the 4th quarter is somehow good.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
This sure seems like the type of hire that we needed in a lot of ways. Dude has a couple of years to turn this ship.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Keep Woodson.
Shame we lost our Lal, receivers coach. They were a bunch of ball-dropping injury prone freaks before he got here.
Saunders has some good plays drawn up.
Jackson was 16th in red zone and we kicked a lot of field goals. Didn’t improve on last years record and choked down the stretch.
Lets face it, for years…YEARS other teams have known that if you keep it close our D will cave in the 4th.
Foundation for the offense is in place.
Makes sense to hire a defensive-minded coach right now.
Denver had a tough defense that put them in the situation to go 8-8 w/ an offense that hardly ever worked except at the end.
So what the hell, give Allen a chance.
Everybody hates the Raiders anyway. Except us. Time for the Raiders to return to a defense that EARNS that hatred by knocking the hell out of people.
Smashmouth Raider football. Old school.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Tell that to the Houston Texans. Their Pro Bowl Q went out, then their 2nd string Q, their All Pro WR and the NFL leading rusher from last year. They made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. But of course their head Coach knew how to manage a game, when to go for two, not settle for Field Goals, and do the things it takes to win. Our guy didn’t. So he is gone.
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Hue Jackson was a rookie Head Coach. Dennis Allen was a rookie coordinator, and is now a rookie Head Coach. I pray the fat man knows what he’s doing.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Any time your head coach uses the word violence as much as he does that has to be a good sign
January 24th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I for one was on the fence about whether Reggie kept Hue or not…and now he is replaced by another young guy but with a defensive background and with knowledge of how to beat one of our division rivals…
Whether we like the hire or not, it is all mute because it is done! All I can hope for is that this will be a good hire…it still remains to be seen! But if he can bring discipline to NFL’s most penalized team in History…might not be a bad idea! Give it time fellas!
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This is how I feel. I can think of 100 reasons to keep Hue and 100 reasons he was fired.
Bottom line is its over for Hue. He’s gone. Crying, arguing, and disrespecting Reggie & Allen won’t bring him back.
Time to support the new guy.
I don’t care if Allen’s better than Hue. I just care about Allen’s ability to be successful.
Dude seems like a good hire.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Pretty tired of getting hacked think I;ll go l33t sp34k for my new pass word., That’ll stop whoever it is but it sucks.
Noticehow who ever it is actually seems to have some raider knowledge. Its like they read RNS and hate on them. Not sure if its them OR me or both but it is annoying.
Will find a new name and be back. Still, have to point out RNS saw thru all the BS and reported the hire accurately 24 hours b4 the bigs and thats pretty cool.
Hate away. I’m sure hwoever they are they’re alright wit it…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Hue is one of the greatest playcallers I’ve ever seen. I’m dead serious about that.
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This is the thing that I don’t understand about some of you. Jackson’s play calling was ATROCIOUS! Now, I liked the fake FG’s and punts as well, but teams caught up to him. He did that the lst time against Cleveland I believe and he needed that fake to win that game.
Teams had no real tendencies on Jackson and the fakes caught teams by surprise. By week 8, teams knew Jackson was going to run reverses at times, and his tendencies and he really did not do very well. His halftime adjustments were non-existent and he got flat out coached in the 4th quarter of games. Unless somehow you guys are going to explain to me that goose eggs in the 4th quarter is somehow good.
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Reverses were working all the way thru Week 17 when Louis Murphy took one in for a TD. How about the call on the first play of OT vs. KC. The one that set up the game-winner and kept the season alive. Was that one any good? We went for 500+ yards in that Week 17 game. That’s a sign that teams had clued into Hue’s tendencies? His 32nd game as our playcaller and we rack up 500+ yards. Yeah, opposing defenses really had Hue’s number. SMH.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
This is the thing that I don’t understand about some of you. Jackson’s play calling was ATROCIOUS! Now, I liked the fake FG’s and punts as well, but teams caught up to him. He did that the lst time against Cleveland I believe and he needed that fake to win that game.
Teams had no real tendencies on Jackson and the fakes caught teams by surprise. By week 8, teams knew Jackson was going to run reverses at times, and his tendencies and he really did not do very well. His halftime adjustments were non-existent and he got flat out coached in the 4th quarter of games. Unless somehow you guys are going to explain to me that goose eggs in the 4th quarter is somehow good.
Weasel:
Absolutely. In SD game we’d get down inside the 20 in 4 or five plays,passing. Then the passing(which was working) went away and in came the same old running plays and then field goals. Silly play calling in the red zone.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
382. Just win baby
January 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
i am glad that i cant reach a gun… Fire john fox and keep allen… Or SWITCH THEM LET FOXY BE Defensive coach man. dont let our best coach walk to our BIGGEST rivals.
by garetrose on Jan 24, 2012 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
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Sucks for us Genius for the Raiders.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale “Hoosiers”
by dmitchell624 on Jan 24, 2012 6:54 PM MST reply
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January 24th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Welcome to Raider Nation, Mr. Dennis Allen.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
“He’s a rising star in this league, and he’s studied under some of the better coordinators in the league,” Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network said. “And as much as everyone talks about “Tebow Time,” [the Broncos] were winning games with their defense and their pass rush. Dennis Allen is very polished, and a lot of people thought he was ready to make this jump.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Man, what a bunch of crybabies we have in here.
For the first time in years, the Raiders have a GM who won’t be obsessed with HWS project players. They have a coach who will be allowed to implement his own schemes and pick his roster. They have a staff who can hold the players accountable, instead of an owner/GM who doesn’t believe in responsibility, chemistry, or the importance of coaching.
And people are in here still crying about losing Hue Jackson?
The Raiders needed a real GM, and since Hue evidently believe that was a job he had earned, he had to go. During the last few decades of Al Davis’ reign, we saw what dysfunction between the front office and the coaching staff leads to. The GM needs to be on the same page as his coaching staff. He needs people who are going to work with him, not people who are going to try to shirk off the blame when things don’t go well. Keeping Hue around would send mixed messages about who had real control – and for that reason, there is no way he could have been kept.
THIS is the reason we’ve been wanting Al to find a GM for years. As fans, we’ve wanted to see a GM take this team by the balls and change the culture entirely. And now we finally have that.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
385. Agree to an extent but Jackson’s play calling may have been hampered by injuries and replacements but yes, you’re right about back half red zone and bashing Bush repeatedly with 3 and out especially, ESPECIALLY because Hue knew Bresnahan’s D was struggling to stop anyone late in games.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
“You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes.” -John Wooden
Hue Jackson is officially a failure.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Hue could end up as OC in Indy if Pagano gets that job. My guess is Tressel will be the guy there though, but that’s really just a guess.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
The best thing about McKenzie? If he doesn’t get the job done, he can be fired. You couldn’t say that about Al Davis, that’s for damn sure.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Reverses were working all the way thru Week 17 when Louis Murphy took one in for a TD. How about the call on the first play of OT vs. KC. The one that set up the game-winner and kept the season alive. Was that one any good? We went for 500+ yards in that Week 17 game. That’s a sign that teams had clued into Hue’s tendencies? His 32nd game as our playcaller and we rack up 500+ yards. Yeah, opposing defenses really had Hue’s number. SMH.
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That was CARSON PALMER. Palmer had the option to check out of plays. Out of that 500 yards Palmer was attributable to over 400 of them. Which when Kiffin and Cable were here, they had Jamarcus and he was not allowed to check out of plays. He had to run them.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
What no one is saying _ Reggie McKenzie simply didn’t think he could trust Hue Jackson. New GM didn’t want to be undermined.
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
If Raiders keep Al Saunders (my guess is they will), like the idea of radically changing defensive culture under Allen.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
391. Think people are sad to see the Davis legacy wiped out over night but man, like many people ahve said maybe thats EXACTLY what needs to happen.
The Hue talk is moot. Hes gone and those thinking he might come back as OC?!
That seems like the longest of shots.
In the end Ws are gonna count but U know Young, like others have already said, we bomb out next yr and people gonna be callin for their heads.
Peace owt and I’m changin my name again after the hackings.
Haven;t scoured to find out exaclty what was said but if any insults fired your way apologies.
Peace out Raiders!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
THIS is the reason we’ve been wanting Al to find a GM for years. As fans, we’ve wanted to see a GM take this team by the balls and change the culture entirely. And now we finally have that.
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Exactly. And it appears we are going to be getting successful guys from all kinds of different environments not just the Green Bay tree, which is completely refreshing. This is a very exciting time to be a Raider.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
What no one is saying _ Reggie McKenzie simply didn’t think he could trust Hue Jackson. New GM didn’t want to be undermined.
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In my mind, that thinking is the equivalent of playing not to lose. Nice tone to set as your first move for the franchise being entrusted to carry on the legacy of Al Davis and the Raiders.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
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January 24th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
396. Okay. Understandable but pretty sure Steve-a-rino made it clear hes in the camp of “Hues a ruthless ladder climber.”
Could also be Mark and Mack had it in their mind to 180 the Raiders away from Al’s deal and thats who Hue was. An Al man wanting to carry on the Al way and that meant conflict day one.
Hue gone, moving on…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
we got a defensive-minded guy who’s considered a great hire by many who know the game well.
I’m looking forward to seeing who he hires.
Especially looking forward to training camp.
Just want to see our Raiders turn back into a team you don’t want to play on Sunday.
You play against Ravens or Steelers defenses and you know you’re going to be hurting the next day. Used to be like that here.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
399. Oh dude, I think thats exactly the opposite. For whatever reason Mark wants to do the opposite of dads 40 year legacy.
Maybe thats a good thing. We’ll have to see…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
“Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
What no one is saying _ Reggie McKenzie simply didn’t think he could trust Hue Jackson. New GM didn’t want to be undermined.”
Look, this was the undercurrent all along. Hue has a reputation everywhere he’s been as competent, but always looking at the next job before he’s settled in to the one he has…and looking to feather his nest at someone else’s expense.
Surely Reggie was filled in by those in the know about Hue’s strengths AND weaknesses and they jived with what Reggie had heard from Hue’s previous jobs.
You can’t blame a guy who has been given the keys to the expensive car for hiring his own driver, esp. when he’s heard some tales of reckless driving from the driver he inherited.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Regarding Reggie having accountability unlike Al, don’t expect RM to get the Hue Jackson treatment and be fired if we fall short of the playoffs next season. Guy’s got a 5-year contract and the book on Mark Davis is he doesn’t have the stomach to fire people.
Reggie’s here for the next 5 years, easy and no matter what. Look at Norv and AJ Smith hanging on in SD. How long did Millen hang on in Detroit. I suspect that good, bad or ugly, Reggie is locked in here for several years, regardless of how well the team does or doesn’t perform.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
402. RNS (yeaqh, there I go again) pointed out very few of Macks short listers had the connections or knowledge to select thier own staffs.
Sure he’ll have to clear it with the powers that be.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
517 Raiderrrrrr Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
We got us a new sheriff in town. Hope hes got the nuts to clean the place up. Toss out the deadwood. Whos that you ask? Just look at trash soon enough.
I just nicknamed Dennis Allen…THE DA.
Either wise up, work hard, listen up, play tough or I will condemn you all! :~)
January 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18875430
January 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Seymour’s blocked kick kept Oakland from going 3-6 after the bye week.
This 9 game stretch included loses of 38-24, 34-14, 46-16, & 38-26
………
Personally, I’m ok with a change from the TOP down.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
405. U know it. Reggie for better or worse. Hope his gut is dead on and he finds the football guys we need to kick but-t
January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
What no one is saying _ Reggie McKenzie simply didn’t think he could trust Hue Jackson. New GM didn’t want to be undermined.
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Haven’t we been talking about what a backstabber Jackson was for weeks in here? I thought Jerry read the comments posted on his site.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
409. Want to say injuries and they did matter but Giants had a devastated secondary this yr too.
Prob with Oakland was team O built on speed and all those speed guys were in and out of the line up.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Fox’s wife, Robin, turned the den in their home in North Carolina into a makeshift office — complete with whiteboards and a full supply of dry-erase markers — so Fox could interview Allen, a man who, until that day, he had known only afar and by reputation.
“I had heard good things about him, and then once you put him on the board and you listen to what his philosophies are and you hear similarities that fit me, I thought it was a perfect fit for us,” Fox said
January 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
411. Jerrys been busy with 9ers but yeah, lotta Hue bashers saying exactly that especially Steve who disliked Huebert early on and alot!
January 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Why hasn’t Hue been interviewed for Colts or Bucs job?
If he is so talented, teams should be jumping at him.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
..more from Mile High Report posters:
crap This totally sux bovine excretement.!!!!!!!!!! Damn these people who do not appreciate how damn much we hate the damn faiders.
DAMN ! DAMN !!! DAMN!!!!!!
one more year with our team trying to implement a new scheme.
DAMN…. DAMN…. DAMN…. DAMN…
can I use other words here, cause I am vocally using them now…
by windblocker on Jan 24, 2012 6:58 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The thinking man’s wrecking ball
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by KarlMecklenburg77 on Jan 24, 2012
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GOD, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
by Matt In Canada on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 PM MST reply
January 24th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
So Jack Del Rio supposedly talking to Denver about being their DC…
January 24th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
From an AP article on 1-10-12:
“Oakland joined this season’s Tampa Bay team as two of the four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season, a distinction achieved previously by only the 1950 Baltimore Colts and 1952 Dallas Texans. The Raiders also became the sixth team since the 1970 merger to allow at least 2,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a season. ”
Holy crap.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Regarding Reggie having accountability unlike Al, don’t expect RM to get the Hue Jackson treatment and be fired if we fall short of the playoffs next season. Guy’s got a 5-year contract and the book on Mark Davis is he doesn’t have the stomach to fire people.
Reggie’s here for the next 5 years, easy and no matter what. Look at Norv and AJ Smith hanging on in SD. How long did Millen hang on in Detroit. I suspect that good, bad or ugly, Reggie is locked in here for several years, regardless of how well the team does or doesn’t perform.
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I’ll take a 5-year plan over an owner running the team with an iron fist, or a head coach/GM any day of the week.
This is the entire point of hiring a GM in the first place. A GM is hired because the owners trust his vision for the team. If you don’t trust a GM candidate enough to let him choose the head coach and oversee personnel, then don’t hire him as GM.
A GM can only succeed if the organization trusts him to make the right decisions. Whether Reggie McKenzie is capable of making the right decisions or not remains to be seen – but again, it’s preferable to an 85-year-old owner or a guy who has to be the head coach as well as the GM.
Also, that’s a pretty ridiculous assumption about Mark Davis, especially if you believe Hue’s account of how his firing went down. If you believe Hue, then Mark was the one who made the move.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
416. GOOD! Never liked Mecklenburg! lol!
Hearing good and bad things about Allen. We’ll have to see. For a rookie HC, staff selections will be crucial. No way he can manage it all with out great help and accountability form his Coaches
January 24th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
first order of business…see ya chucky b
January 24th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
wasbanned Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Why hasn’t Hue been interviewed for Colts or Bucs job?
If he is so talented, teams should be jumping at him.
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The El Segundo High Spartans still have their $42,000 offer on the table. But he has to teach gym class too.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
416. GOOD! Never liked Mecklenburg! lol!
Hearing good and bad things about Allen. We’ll have to see. For a rookie HC, staff selections will be crucial. No way he can manage it all with out great help and accountability form his Coaches
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One thing is he does not have to learn the league, and he especially does not have to learn the division. Both those things are going to help him out alot.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Wow. So this is what it comes down to. I have to say, I am not really thrilled by this hire, not because he was a bronco, or any of those silly reasons. But because this seems like a “oh shoot, I better hurry and hire somebody” move by McKenzie.
Now, I know there’s no way to know for sure until the games start and the W-L start piling up. But I just don’t feel it, at least not yet. I guess my “gut” is not digesting it too well right now. But I am willing to give Allen and BigMac the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise.
Some things I did noticed though, Allen’s whole “defensive philosophy” of building a defense that is fast and aggressive sounds a lot like the whole “build a bully” thing we had going on for a while here.
Another, how now Schefter and all the talking heads are saying he was a rising star in the league and how he is “Dynamic, energetic, leader, commanding” etc. sure sounds a lot like what they said about Jackson when we hired him.
I don’t know, we’ll just have to wait and see I guess…
January 24th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Let’s face it. If Raiders hired Belichek or Cowher we’d be coming up with reasons why ’s not gonna work.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Wow, the Raiders hired him, eh? I think his energy will be great, trans-formative, like Gruden when he got here.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
If Saunders is not retained as OC or if they don’t keep Wylie or Wiz as OLine coaches. Look for Aaron Kromer to be looked at as a possible OC or OLine/Asst Head Coach. Kromer has been the OLine and RB’s coach with the Saints for a while now.
He is a talent and worked with Allen in New Orleans. Kromer was also part of Gruden and Callahans staff during their solid tenures here with Raiders.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Here is my pick for this year’s MUP List:
Quentin Groves
He was a beast at Auburn and had a couple good ones at Jax. A real Coach will get it out of him.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
AD = DA = AD reincarnated
January 24th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
I’m going to email Tittle and ask him to ask Allen during the presser if he plans to move Wimbley to the full time down RDE spot to maximize his strengths of getting to the passer and causing disruption on the backfield.
I hope Tittle also asks what the plan is to improve the play of McClain and if they plan to add some more LB’s!
January 24th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
#429-
What would’ve been even weirder/funnier is if his first name was David instead of Dennis, and if in 10 years from now he would’ve been running the whole ship. lol…
January 24th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
I’m convinced some of you refuse to allow yourself any semblance of joy or fun about anything regarding the Raiders.
If Raiders announced they traded Jerome Boyd for Tom Brady there still would be naysayers.
“Well, i for one don’t like the trade. Brady was good for NE but he’s getting older and not the same guy he was a few yrs. back and we gave away a young player who was growing in his position in an area where we are already thin who showed some promise on special teams too. Do you wanna see guys returning punts for TD’s cuz we gave away a solid special teams guy for an aging QB who’s best days are behind him?” “I don’t think so”.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
lol #432, I don’t think any of us would be crying about trading for Tom, and as far as Jerome, I would trade him for a bag of pork skins.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
If Saunders is not retained as OC or if they don’t keep Wylie or Wiz as OLine coaches. Look out for Aaron Kromer to be looked at as a possible OC or more than likely OLine/Asst Head Coach. Kromer has been the OLine and RB’s coach with the Saints for a while now.
He is a talent and worked with Allen in New Orleans. Kromer was also part of Gruden and Callahans staff during their solid tenure.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Djohnny, Keep those Donkey post coming, thats some funny schit, they really liked this cat. Hope he turns out as good as some of them think he could.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
We are going to find out soon enough how much of a defensive “genius” this Allen kid really is.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I can see Coach Allen purging these two guys from the Saints Staff:
Travis Jones
Asst. Defensive Line; born June 6, 1972, Milledgville, Ga. Linebacker Georgia 1991-94. Pro linebacker Balitmore Stallions (CFL) 1995. College coach: Georgia: 1997, Appalachian State 1998-2000, Kansas 2001-02, Louisiana State 2003-04. Pro coach: Miami Dolphins 2005-07, joined Saints in 2008.
Aaron Kromer
Offensive Line/running game; born April 30, 1967, Sandusky, Ohio. Offensive tackle Miami (Ohio) 1986-89. No pro playing experience. College coach: Miami (Ohio) 1990-98, Northwestern 1999-2000. Pro coach: Oakland Raiders 2001-04, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2005-06, joined Saints in 2007.
We all know about Kromar but Jones is a rising guy as well. He worked under Nick Saban at LSU and Nick took him with hith him to Miami Dolphins. After Nick went to Bama, Jones joined Paytons staff.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
What no one is saying _ Reggie McKenzie simply didn’t think he could trust Hue Jackson. New GM didn’t want to be undermined.
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In my mind, that thinking is the equivalent of playing not to lose. Nice tone to set as your first move for the franchise being entrusted to carry on the legacy of Al Davis and the Raiders.
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Corkran said Jackson didnt want to worry about “reigning in” Hue Jackson. In other words worrying about him running his stupid mouth.
Rex Ryan could get away with the stuff he was saying, because he went to AFC Championships, then that all ended – now they have a fractured, divided house.
Think McKenzie was even going to risk that? Not on his watch….
January 24th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
It will be interesting to see how a un-neutered Raider Head Coach, with his own staff, how they handle the Penalty, Discipline, dysfunctions that’s built up over the years.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Alright, I’m taking this one to bed and seeing how I feel about it in the morning.
I kinda feel like a kid at Christmas after he opened his present expecting that shiny new toy, but instead finding a pair of socks. Sure, they will keep my feet warm and I did need new ones, but it just doesn’t feel the same.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
It will be interesting to see how a un-neutered Raider Head Coach, with his own staff, how they handle the Penalty, Discipline, dysfunctions that’s built up over the years.
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It’ll be more interesting to see people eating crow if this guy succeeds.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I can see Coach Allen purging these two guys from the Saints Staff:
Travis Jones
Asst. Defensive Line; born June 6, 1972, Milledgville, Ga. Linebacker Georgia 1991-94. Pro linebacker Balitmore Stallions (CFL) 1995. College coach: Georgia: 1997, Appalachian State 1998-2000, Kansas 2001-02, Louisiana State 2003-04. Pro coach: Miami Dolphins 2005-07, joined Saints in 2008.
Aaron Kromer
Offensive Line/running game; born April 30, 1967, Sandusky, Ohio. Offensive tackle Miami (Ohio) 1986-89. No pro playing experience. College coach: Miami (Ohio) 1990-98, Northwestern 1999-2000. Pro coach: Oakland Raiders 2001-04, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2005-06, joined Saints in 2007.
We all know about Kromar but Jones is a rising guy as well. He worked under Nick Saban at LSU and Nick took him with hith him to Miami Dolphins. After Nick went to Bama, Jones joined Paytons staff.
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I think bringing in Jones to coach the DLINE OR LB’s is a possibility also.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
If Allen can shut out the first team on the schedule and we commit less than 5 penalties, Reggie should tape a 5 year extension to a game ball and give it to him on the spot.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
433.EMRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
lol #432, I don’t think any of us would be crying about trading for Tom, and as far as Jerome, I would trade him for a bag of pork skins.
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You’d give up that much?
You’re too generous.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Good Night Nation. Our team just got better today. Believe that.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I expect some significant, and probably surprising roster changes as well.
They’ll be finally free the change that culture, without Al’s interference.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Then again. There is nowhere to go but up for Allen when it comes to how crappy the Chuck B led defense played last year.
Shouldn’t be too difficult for Allen to improve upon that.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I think McKenzie is a deliberate man, not a flashy man.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Good Night Nation. Our team just got better today. Believe that.
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I believe it. In fact I think we got a lot better.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
444.djohnnyg Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
433.EMRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
lol #432, I don’t think any of us would be crying about trading for Tom, and as far as Jerome, I would trade him for a bag of pork skins.
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You’d give up that much?
You’re too generous.
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I meant to say you’d be asking for too much.
I would accept ONE single pork skin.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I think McKenzie is a deliberate man, not a flashy man.
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Very deliberate. Seems like he wants deliberate, solid, non flashy players as well.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Very deliberate. Seems like he wants deliberate, solid, non flashy players as well.
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Yep, I would think so.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
If Allen can shut out the first team on the schedule and we commit less than 5 penalties Reggie should tape a 5 year extension to a game ball and give it to him on the spot.
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I’ll settle for a 49er-like (ugh) 10 game winning streak and an upset bid in the first round over the Pats with an AFC Championship appearance….the way this team has struggled and teased, only that will do.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
440.EMRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Alright, I’m taking this one to bed and seeing how I feel about it in the morning.
I kinda feel like a kid at Christmas after he opened his present expecting that shiny new toy, but instead finding a pair of socks. Sure, they will keep my feet warm and I did need new ones, but it just doesn’t feel the same.
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Curious. Which HC would have given you that happy Christmas morning feeling?
January 24th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Weaselbit Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
we got a defensive-minded guy who’s considered a great hire by many who know the game well.
I’m looking forward to seeing who he hires.
Especially looking forward to training camp.
Just want to see our Raiders turn back into a team you don’t want to play on Sunday.
You play against Ravens or Steelers defenses and you know you’re going to be hurting the next day. Used to be like that here.
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still is kinda
Brian Cushing – bloodied up by Cooper Carlisle
Marcus McNeill – knocked out by Aaron Curry
Adrian Peterson – knocked out on a tackle by Michael Huff (possibly career threatening follow up injury in final game)
Greg Jennings – knocked out
January 24th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Back in the day, the Raiders were a blue-collar team.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
435.realtruraider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Djohnny, Keep those Donkey post coming, thats some funny schit, they really liked this cat. Hope he turns out as good as some of them think he could.
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Oh yeah. They’re miserable.
I think about how they feel about losing their DC and how we’d feel about ours.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Back in the day, The Pharcyde was my favorite rap group.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Ok We have a coach now. I hope he does well. Have to sit back and wait now to see how he handles things.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
What is the Dennis Allen going to say when the penalties keep coming and we break our own record from last year?
January 24th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
What is the Dennis Allen going to say when the penalties keep coming and we break our own record from last year?
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I can tell you exactly what he is going to say so that doesn’t happen: “Hey (so and so) get the fukk off the field. Yo, (so and so) get in there.”
January 24th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I think McKenzie is a deliberate man, not a flashy man.
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Very deliberate. Seems like he wants deliberate, solid, non flashy players as well.
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I must agree. Mr. McKenzie is probably an extremely calculated guy, not worried about being a crowd pleaser with the status quo decisions and typical path, just worried about getting it RIGHT and Winning.
Now let’s see the WINS Baby
January 24th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
my man Marc Trestman is on the Colts radar.. Trestman and Manning together will be some scary effective sh!t..
January 24th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
just read that it wont really matter much who the defensive coordinater will be, due to D allen calling all the shots on defense..
it will be an interesting couple of weeks as we find out who allen will pick as his coaching staff..
January 24th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Raiders have structure.
McKenzie as GM
Allen as Head Coach (a defensive minded head coach)
So far we have gotten what we hoped for.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
I wonder if the scouts realize they are being screened by Reggie as well as the players at the Senior Bowl.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I think McKenzie is a deliberate man, not a flashy man.
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Very deliberate. Seems like he wants deliberate, solid, non flashy players as well.
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I must agree. Mr. McKenzie is probably an extremely calculated guy, not worried about being a crowd pleaser with the status quo decisions and typical path, just worried about getting it RIGHT and Winning.
Now let’s see the WINS Baby
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Yes, McKenzie showed he deliberately had no plan after firing Hue, as you can tell is a very solid (chunky) man, and if by non-flashy you mean an average, do nothing to stand out in a crowd public speaker, then I would say you guys described Reggie exactly how I saw him. Now let’s just hope his reputation and blessing from Ron Wolf is really what we’re all hearing it is. Raiiiiiiddddeeeerrrssss!!!
January 24th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Boyd ?? We need him.
Chinedum Ndukwe: ‘Memba him ??? He replaced Boyd and Boyd then replaced him.
Bring back Ndukwe and keep Boyd: shutdown corners.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Best thing is about this hire. Allen will know how to crush Tebow next season. He will be praying to God for other reasons.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
All Allen has to do is tell those two to: 1) run with the receiver; 2) turn and spot the ball; 3) put a hand up.
Yeaaaa…..shutdown corners.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
440.EMRaiders Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Alright, I’m taking this one to bed and seeing how I feel about it in the morning.
I kinda feel like a kid at Christmas after he opened his present expecting that shiny new toy, but instead finding a pair of socks. Sure, they will keep my feet warm and I did need new ones, but it just doesn’t feel the same.
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Curious. Which HC would have given you that happy Christmas morning feeling?
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To be honest, I’m not sure. If it had to be a D guy, then maybe someone like Del Rio or at least interview the DC from SF.
A Jim Caldwell or someone from Baltimore or NO might’ve sparked some excitement as well.
I don’t know, I think it’s just that to me Allen is too much of an unknown. But like I said, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. So I’ll hold my final opinion about him until I see him in action. I do hope that he turns out great though.
Only time will tell.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
I just hope DVD is eating a few more steaks this off season, I think he might be the only player skinnier than Pike.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
How difficult can it be to stop Tebow from running? assign your best linebacker to him, then break him in half when he gets frisky and tries to run. That was sub-moron McClain’s job this season but he was too busy planning gunplay in Alabama to perform.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
473
You would think it’s that easy. But everyone had a hard time stopping it.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
RaiderRetribution, #472:
Now DVD and Chekwa, there are a couple of winners. Keep the shutdown corners instead, Boyd and Ndukwe.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I do think having a young, up and coming head coach will establish the chain of command more so than an experienced one; this will allow Reggie to take in input/requests from his scouts and coaching staff to draft & sign players with a more “if I want it done right, gotta do it myself,” feel to it.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Now Reggie can focus on the 53-man roster.
Allen can focus on the coaching staff.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
I guess the next news worthy will be the press conference right before or on the day of the Superbowl just to get The RAIDERS name out there. That’s what yo daddy woulda done Mark “Tommy Boy” Davis
January 24th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
474…..Apparently the Pats, Bills, Chiefs or Lions toward the end of the season didn’t find it that hard.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
477
Should be interesting to see who gets cut. You know some of these cuts are going to be very unpopular.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Just checking in here tonight and haven’t read through all the comments and posts.I do like the fact that Allen’s Denver players are upset he is leaving.Champ Bailey is saying he is hard nosed and intense.That is exactly what we need and have lacked for a loooong time.No more Al scholarship players and some one demanding and laying down the law.
I will always miss AL but it is time for a new era in Oaktown.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Al D
Have to go back and look at his rushing yards and scores. But I think teams figured out how to score more points as well.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Of course the Raiders couldn’t stop a two-legged jackrabbit. All we get is the sub-moron, windmilling through the air, ass-over-teakettle, and out of position, or wrong angle, with Tebow whistling right through his arm tackles.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
heard it here first-
things i think will happen this off-season:
- S. Routt gets released
- M. Mitchell gets released
- S. Satele gets released
- C. Carlisle gets released
- T. Scott gets released
- M. Bush will walk
- And for the first time in a long time, we go hog-wild and pig-crazy in the free agent pool..
D. Allen is gonna load our defense up with reliable vets and get rid of guys on our roster getting paid for below-average play..
January 24th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
In our 2nd game against Denver Tebow rushed for 118 and McGahee rushed for 163.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Al D
De’s all season were frozen on that stupid opt play. Pats made him hand the ball off. The DE or Safty just stood on the edge and spyed him.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
J-Raider #484,
Can we welcome out Seymour and McClain too, hopefully with an ax handle upside the head ?
January 24th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
J
The only thing i disagree with is the FA. We wont have the cap space.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Neighbor, true enough. Tebow needs to learn to throw, and very soon, since next season he will be fully defensed against running. Hopefully Tebow won’t suffer too many concussions.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
only reason i say that we go through free agency this year is because of the cap space we will get credited for cutting guys with 30 million dollar contracts..
remember what we did last year with 1 million in cap space? im pretty sure if we cut all the above listed players, we will be somewhere in the 10-15 million range.. we could do some damage in free agency this year, of course with back-loaded contracts..
January 24th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
490
I think Routt has a pretty big guarantee. But I dont disagree about the cuts. B Campbell has to go to. Wasted roster spot.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Not sure Bush walks. Im not sure he will get the offers people think. But I could be wrong.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
490, I agree with 488. I think it would be a mistake to go too heavy into FA. After AL’s folly regarding FA in the early past the mid-2000’s, Mackenzie should be very wary going down the same path.
Since Reggie’s expertise is spotting talent we should be able to trade for low round draft picks, to find gems there. Remember Tom Brady was a 5th round pick as was Joe Montana. Low first round picks are normally worthless; look at sub-moron, underperformer McClain.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
and as far as im concerned, our offense only needs 3 things…
1. a REAL fullback
2. jeff saturday (free agent this year)
3. desean jackson (also free agent)
defense needs to be gutted in my opinion.. we cant continue to pay guys like routt, huff, wimbley, seymore, kelly, and mcclain without some production.. we have to get some free agents in here on this defense to make it easier to cut our overpaid guys.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
So Al I getting the feeling you dont like McClain.
But your right. We should be looking young with a vet here and there.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
494, true enough. BTW who is Jeff Saturday ?
January 24th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
J-Raider Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
- S. Routt gets released
- M. Mitchell gets released
- S. Satele gets released
- C. Carlisle gets released
- T. Scott gets released
- M. Bush will walk
- And for the first time in a long time, we go hog-wild and pig-crazy in the free agent pool..
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• Routt – Don’t think he’s going anywhere. I do think his contract will be restructured and lowered.
• Mitchell – Traded (6th or 7th) or released.
• Satele – Moved to Back-up center.
• Carlisle – Moved to back-up or released.
• Scott – Released
• Bush will walk. That’s OK. We can get FA Marshawn Lynch for $2M – What we are paying Bush now.
• I think we go after DeSean Jackson – WR/Phil. as our BIG FA acquisition. I also think we’ll go after Aubrayo Franklin, NT (NO) & Anthony Spencer, OLB (DAL).
January 24th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
$496
Jeff Saturday is rumored to be retiring.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
493,
i understand your point, but Reggies expertise is the exact reason why we should look closely at free agency as well.. there is also talent to be evaluated in the free agency pool, where al davis signed all the big names, i can see reggie looking for quality talent.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
J
Wouldn’t DJ be a hirer paid J Ford with attitude and selfishness?
The rest I can’t argue with Saturday would be that Vet on the oline that can help Wiz become a HOFer.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
495, McClain makes me sick: lack of performance, bad attitude, demeanor, lack of intelligence, enabled toward bad behavior. Can you imagine Hue the Pimpin Magnicient constantly sung his praises after naming him captain of the “D”? McClain himself considered his game performances after the “incident” in Alabama were superlative: his momma even told him so!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Guys that will be restructured & take pay cuts:
• Routt
• Wimbley
• McClain
• Huff
• Palmer
• DMac
• DHB
• Seymour
• Kelly
• Houston
January 25th, 2012 at 12:01 am
496,
jeff saturday is the center for the colts.. basicly the smartest center in the nfl. i was listening to bspn radio this morning and he is saying how bad it is in indy right now and how glad he is that he has a chance to explore free agency..
January 25th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Not sure we need to restructurer DHB or Houston. If I remember right they werent at the top of our pay list.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:04 am
502.JB Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Guys that will be restructured & take pay cuts:
• Routt
• Wimbley
• McClain
• Huff
• Palmer
• DMac
• DHB
• Seymour
• Kelly
• Houston
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see guys, this is my point.. i can maybe see one player on this list that wouldnt laugh in reggies face if asked for a pay cut, and thats dhb. all these other guys would rather hit the road…
January 25th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Sign Saturday on wednesday to play on Sunday’s.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:05 am
J-Raider, 503
Yeah, we should acquire him and release Satele. I am sure he was the anchor of the O line for many years there. Peyton Manning was also commenting on the bad conditions in Indy now, too.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:06 am
Everyone loves Saturdays.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:07 am
We should sign Vincent Jackson in FA and release DHB. DHB makes catches and gains yds, but coughs up or drops the ball everytime in critical situations. Also, a WR can never be truly great catching the ball by trapping on his body. Just won’t work.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:07 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Not sure we need to restructure DHB or Houston. If I remember right they weren’t at the top of our pay list.
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DHB is finally coming around & is a hard dedicated worker. But, he is getting #7 pick $’s which he really didn’t earn the first couple of years. Taking the pay cuts enables us to bring in better FA talent which will make the team more competitive. Houston’s performance fell off this last year. For the same reason stated above, he should take a little cut too. Cut the base pay but improve the contracts with performance bonus’s.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:08 am
500.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
J
Wouldn’t DJ be a hirer paid J Ford with attitude and selfishness?
The rest I can’t argue with Saturday would be that Vet on the oline that can help Wiz become a HOFer.
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about d jax, i honestly think that guy just needs a change of scenery.. he went to a place that has had locker room trouble since d mcnabb was drafted, not to mention when t.o. was there, and then on top of everything else he was never really disciplined correctly by the eagles organisation.. i could see djax, dhb, dmoore, and jford being our four wide outs this comming season.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:09 am
In his 3rd yr DHB caught only 3 TDs, while Jerry Rice caught 16. Both had similiar number of catches and total yds gained, though Rice beat DHB in those categories too.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:11 am
Let’s bring BOTH DeSean Jackson & Marshawn Lynch home to Oakland. Both were standout players at Cal. The Raiders were their team when they were kids. Both would excel here.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:11 am
Finally. Let’s get on with this new era. Still think Mark had his hooves in this. But nonetheless, he can’t be as bad as his dad when it comes to drafting, FA, and game plan meddling. So here we go. Let’s strap on our seat belts and Just Win Baby.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:12 am
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/yearly/
Player 2011/2012 2012/2013 2013/2014 2014/2015 2015/2016
Richard Seymour at at 15,000,000 7,500,000 UFA – – at
Stanford Routt at at 10,000,000 5,000,000 11,500,000 UFA 11,500,000 at
Darren McFadden at at 7,055,000 5,650,000 5,856,250 UFA – at
Tommy Kelly at at 5,500,000 6,000,000 6,500,000 7,000,000 UFA at
Kamerion Wimbley at at 5,000,000 11,000,000 11,000,000 10,000,000 11,000,000 at
Jason Campbell at at 4,500,000 UFA – – – at
Aaron Curry at at 3,725,000 5,700,000 UFA – – at
Shane Lechler at at 3,200,000 3,800,000 UFA – – at
Michael Bush at at 2,610,000 UFA – – – at
Sebastian Janikowski at at 2,600,000 1,700,000 3,800,000 UFA – at
John Henderson at at 2,500,000 4,000,000 UFA – – at
Carson Palmer at at 2,500,000 12,500,000 13,000,000 15,000,000 UFA at
Hiram Eugene at at 2,000,000 2,500,000 2,750,000 3,250,000 UFA at
Stephon Heyer at at 1,700,000 UFA – – – at
Jarvis Moss at at 1,250,000 UFA – – – at
Kyle Boller at at 1,250,000 UFA – – – at
Darius Heyward-Bey at at 1,000,000 1,605,000 2,210,000 UFA – at
T.J. Houshmanzadeh at at 910,000 UFA – – – at
Rock Cartwright at at 800,000 UFA – – – at
Michael Huff at at 685,000 4,000,000 4,000,000 4,000,000 UFA at
Trevor Scott at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Chaz Schilens at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Tyvon Branch at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Quentin Groves at at 555,000 UFA – – – at
Louis Murphy at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Matt Shaughnessy at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Mike Mitchell at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Brandon Myers at at 480,000 565,000 UFA – – at
Rolando McClain at at 405,000 970,000 1,535,000 2,100,000 RFA at
Travis Goethel at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Bruce Campbell at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Jacoby Ford at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Lamarr Houston at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 RFA – at
Jared Veldheer at at 405,000 490,000 575,000 UFA – at
Denarius Moore at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Stefen Wisniewski at at 375,000 – – – UFA at
Taiwan Jones at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Terrelle Pryor at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
DeMarcus Van Dyke at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Chimdi Chekwa at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Joe Barksdale at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
David Ausberry at at 375,000 465,000 555,000 645,000 UFA at
Richard Gordon at at – – – – UFA at
Darryl Blackstock at at – UFA – – – at
Khalif Barnes at at – UFA – – – at
Jon Condo at at – UFA – – – at
Kevin Boss at at – – – – UFA at
Josh Bullocks at at UFA – – – – at
Samson Satele at at – UFA – – -
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 am
i think dhb is really comming into his own.. yes, its taking too long, but gotta give him credit. he definetly out-did what i expected of him. to compare him to the greatest wide reciever of all time is very entertaining to say the least.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Marshawn Lynch is way too old as is DeSean Jackson.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 am
McKenzie said the day he was introduced as the Raiders general manager that he fired Hue Jackson, in part, because he wanted “my guy.” In the end, McKenzie hired a guy in Allen in which he has no previous ties.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:14 am
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January 25th, 2012 at 12:15 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
What is the Dennis Allen going to say when the penalties keep coming and we break our own record from last year?
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I can tell you exactly what he is going to say so that doesn’t happen: “Hey (so and so) get the fukk off the field. Yo, (so and so) get in there.”
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Listen up players…….
THE DA is in the house!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 am
al d. davis Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Marshawn Lynch is way too old as is DeSean Jackson.
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Old is Jeff Saturday. D.Jackson & M.Lynch are good for at least another 2 years.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:18 am
517.al d. davis Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Marshawn Lynch is way too old as is DeSean Jackson.
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djax is 25
m lynch is also 25
both probably havent even hit their prime..
January 25th, 2012 at 12:19 am
BTW, I didn’t watch the SOTU tonight, but even Republicans I know said it was a great speech. I think Prez O’s gonna get another 4 to clean up Bush’s mess. Thank goodness.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Lopez, I already replied to you with a long post stating the reason why the Raiders cannot currently contract with a development group to play in a new stadium: mainly because they are serial losers the past 10 seasons (actually have 20 losing season out of the last 20). They are 31st in the NFL in value and revenue earnings. No one will take a chance on them. They need to bring several AFC championships and win a Superbowl or two. Stadiums these cost at least $1.5B. No one will gamble that on losers.
Dude, quit it already. You have nothing to worry about. The Raiders will stay where they are for at least 5 to 10 yrs. You won the war.
Stop posting that nonsense. Get a life already.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:20 am
522, oh okay…..I thought they were mid-30’s already.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:20 am
20 losing seasons out of the past 29 ****
January 25th, 2012 at 12:21 am
saturday just turned 36 but would be a good one year vet to teach our young guns veldheer, wiz, campbell, and barksdale the ropes..
January 25th, 2012 at 12:21 am
@JeffDarlington Jeff Darlington
Not a knock on Mike McCoy, but Dennis Allen was the coordinator many in Denver saw as a 2012 head coach. Several guys raved about him to me.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 am
527, yeah that’s true. And also a center doesn’t have to run far, some still play well at an advanced age.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 am
Is Saturday from a ZBS or Power blocking. He’s a bit on the small size I believe. I was thinking of moving Wiz to center, Satele to BU, Heyer to LG, Barksdale to LT and either BCampbell or a FA at RG.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 am
kevin boss needs to be replaced as well.. the guy turns 29 this year and hasnt lived up to expectations at all.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 am
RT
January 25th, 2012 at 12:25 am
J-Raider Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 am
kevin boss needs to be replaced as well.. the guy turns 29 this year and hasnt lived up to expectations at all.
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Hue hardly threw the ball to him. That’s on Hue, not Boss. Boss is a BIG target & great blocker. His only downside is concussion history.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:27 am
Give Boss another year while we groom Ausberry.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:27 am
jb,
aint no way barksdale goes to LT, veldheer has that on lock.. and as for wiz, he did a damm good job at LG. i see RG as biggest need since barksdale got alot of good experiance at RT already, i think he could eventually shine at RT.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 am
J-Raider
I corrected the post 2 spots down to RT
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 am
boss just looked slow and out of it when i watched the games.. almost like he played hurt all season.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:30 am
Good discussion, gotta run. G’nite all.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:30 am
I’d like to see:
Veldheer-Heyer-Wiz-Carlisle/Campbell-Barksdale/rookie
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 am
jb,
ok i see that now. my bad. still think a solid vet C should come in and show those young linemen how to correctly read blitz packages, instead of what satele did and just half a$$ shoving guys around.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:44 am
I wonder if the scouts realize they are being screened by Reggie as well as the players at the Senior Bowl.
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I’m sure they do. Since Reggie is going to screen the ticket sellers and parking lot attendants, he’ll definately screen the scouts.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Hey are we ready for a losing season of 1-15 this year, raider fans! Spuds doesn’t know Foxtrot Alpha thing! Nothing more than pure losing. They will this clown two seaon before he’s fired! What was Mark thinking! Another losing season is upon us again!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Raiders OLine for 2013:
Vehldeer Nicks Wisniewski Barksdale Gaither
back ups Satele or Carlisle, one of our practice squad players, or Beachum (rookie SMU)
January 25th, 2012 at 1:32 am
Richard Seymour might take a paycut in a trade to another team that is a front runner to a Super Bowl; N.E., NYs, SF, GB, Det, Atl, Balt,or N.O.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:20 am
I wanted an experienced head coach since we have an inexperienced owner and an inexperienced general manager but I am warming up to this hire.
Our biggest problem is the defense and Allen has a good record on that in Denver.
In one year he took them from the 32nd defense to the 20th and they went from 23 sacks to 41.
I also like the hints that Al Sanders will stay on as offensive coordinator.
There is nothing wrong with the playbook and Sanders wrote most of it.
The problem was some of Hue’s play calling and his game management.
Sanders staying would mean also that the offense doesn’t have to learn a new system.
I like Sanders anyway.
With Al Sanders anything can happen and it’s bombs away baby!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:39 am
McKenzie said the day he was introduced as the Raiders general manager that he fired Hue Jackson, in part, because he wanted “my guy.” In the end, McKenzie hired a guy in Allen in which he has no previous ties.
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Anyone ever tell you that at times you can sound like a whiny child? Sheesh. Don’t think Reggie meant that literally, Cork. Chill out. My guy as in the guy he chooses as the best candidate in his mind. Not my guy as in my home boy from back when. Calm down, Cork. Sounding like that dbag from CSN grilling Mark Davis on whether he’ll fire the GM after 1 year if the team doesn’t make the playoffs.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:19 am
England Raider..
I feared we would hire Morhinweg, Tice or McCoy.. they never impressed me! but I liked the idea of Allen right away.
most our mistakes in the last decade have been on defense.. if we get a strong defense our offense will have it so much easier.
As you point out if Saunders stays, then the playbook stays, WE NEED THAT.. I hated Hue’s playcalling from the start.. even when we were winning, but people here just called me a pessimist..
but who will be our DC?? rumor say it will be miami’s Bowles.. i honestly dont know what to say about that..
January 25th, 2012 at 4:05 am
Good morning from the east coast…zzzz…
January 25th, 2012 at 4:24 am
I think the offense would be more sound under Saunders; under Hue it was more gadget oriented rather than sound execution.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:30 am
The four players I definately want to see return in a Raiders uniform are:
Vehldeer
Wisniewski
Moore
Reece
Ford
Shaughnessey
Branch
others that I hope we retain, but would understand if we traded for top draft picks and/or players:
Palmer
Barksdale
Gordon
Curry
Houston
McFadden
Heyward-Bey
Chekwa
Giordano
all others, Reggie you are free to trade/cut/restructure/release/fire as you see fit
January 25th, 2012 at 4:37 am
“Several sources” tell the Palm Beach Post the Dolphins are expected to switch to a 4-3 defense in 2012, and that as a result free agent NT Paul Soliai will be allowed to walk.
New coach Joe Philbin has yet to even hire a defensive coordinator, but this could be a sign he’s not planning to lure an assistant from his former Green Bay. The Packers have run a 3-4 since hiring DC Dom Capers in 2009. Soliai had a disappointing season playing under the franchise tag in 2011, grading out as Pro Football Focus’ 38th best defensive tackle.
Source: Palm Beach Post
Jan 24 – 11:30 AM
January 25th, 2012 at 5:01 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
McClain is going to ball this season.
All you haters are being tallied.
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Fair enough.
Put me at the top of the ‘hater’ list.
I have doubts that McClain will even be on the roster.
And for the good of the Raiders, I hope he isn’t.
Cat can’t play. Period. Need evidence ? Watch the whiff on Stafford again. That’s all you need to see.
Even if he COULD ball, there’s just too much detrimental garbage in the Slowlando picture for him to succeed.
Best that he stays in Bama and plays gangsta.
And looking at the way Dick Seymour’s contract is structured – he got 15 mill guaranteed last year, scheduled to get 7.5 this year with an additional 7.5 million roster bonus – there’s a good chance Seymour is a goner too.
There’s a new sheriff in town and heads are going to roll. There must be accountability for the dismal defensive performance.
You start with Slowlando, and unless Seymour is willing to take a pay cut, you drop him like a toilet seat too.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:01 am
Dennis the Menace
Next: Free Agency
January 25th, 2012 at 5:07 am
Why do Steve, Jer and a boat load of you semi’s keep bringing up the whole Reggie wants his own guy comment as a way of making him out to be full of shat?
Let me explain something, Hue was not hired by Reggie, therefore, NOT HIS GUY!
Allen is now hired by… Reggie McKenzie, making Allen HIS GUY!
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
January 25th, 2012 at 5:12 am
The Dennis Allen hire sucks. I hate it. Denver’s defense sucked. Why does everyone keep saying that they were good? The 41 sacks were the only good thing about it.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:13 am
#546, didn’t see your post, but glad to see someone else mentioning it.
Steve “the Spoon” Cockring is a 9er fan is he not? Still cryin over sundays loss…
January 25th, 2012 at 5:19 am
Youre right Apollo Creed, some fools think “his guy” had to mean some guy from Green Bay,…clueless. You are right on and Im laughing that others didnt pick up on that. Sorry that big Russian killed you man.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:20 am
JB
a guy who chooses when to call a play is the same as a repeater? Weird logic. Where was this Saunders success when in Washington? Nowhere.
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This is true. I’m in DC and with Saunders at OC Skins did nothing
January 25th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Chiefs had one of the top offenses when they had Saunders as OC.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:37 am
i got no problem with our offense. just as long as they run more screens. nfl teams dont do that enuff anymore .
January 25th, 2012 at 5:38 am
Bowles or Moss at DC
Saunders or Trestman at OC
and keep woodson and wiz as assistants
January 25th, 2012 at 5:40 am
is there an explanation for raider fans love for marc trestman ? he does seem to have a lot of (fire ) in him .
January 25th, 2012 at 5:44 am
THIS IS HOW ITS GOIN DOWN : A. raiders trade carson palmer & tyvon branch to seahawks for a second rounder & 1 of their corners. B. raiders trade 2nd round pick , richard seymour & darren mcfadden to colts for number 1 overall pick . C. colts trade 2nd round pick & reggie wayne to a team in the top ten and draft
January 25th, 2012 at 5:44 am
- RG3 … EVERYBODY WINS
January 25th, 2012 at 5:47 am
RM99,
I think Dennis Allen is going to be a welcome relief to Rolando.
He came from a diverse d, and a fiery top-tier coach Saban in college.
Than he went in his rookie year, to some 65 year old DC, with CAble and Hue fighting over who is HC, than got stuck with Chuck B and Huester.
I seriously think the light is going to turn on for Pain McCLain this season.
If not, he will certainly be gone next year.
Can’t remember any top 10 picks only getting 2 years.
Even Jamarcus and Ryan Leaf got three years.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Can’t trade Branch, he is a FA.
Seymour is do $15 million dollars. No organization will trade anything more than maybe a 6th rounder for him.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:50 am
stop killing my dream JFB
January 25th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Sorry, lol.
We just have to be realistic.
Heard Mort say the Colts won’t trade the #1 overall pick, and that teams have already inquired if a swap in the 1st round and 3 FUTURE #1′S would do it.
Nope, it won’t.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:57 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.A FAST AGGRESIVE,MEAN DEFENSE SOUND GOOD 2 ME.WONT HAPPEN OVER NIGHT THOUGH.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:47 am
RM99,
I think Dennis Allen is going to be a welcome relief to Rolando.
He came from a diverse d, and a fiery top-tier coach Saban in college.
Than he went in his rookie year, to some 65 year old DC, with CAble and Hue fighting over who is HC, than got stuck with Chuck B and Huester.
I seriously think the light is going to turn on for Pain McCLain this season.
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Poor RoMac. Guy just can’t catch a break.
Fans need to remember this and hopefully the law in ‘Bama takes these things into account as well. Playing professional football under the tutelage of John Marshall and sensing a possible power struggle at the head coaching position is hard times. Kid’s been through enough, Judge.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:01 am
As an example for McFadden’s trade value, Marshall Faulk was fresh off a 2,500 yard season (rushing + recieving) and had missed only a few games over the previous few years, and was traded for a 2nd round pick.
I don’t think we could get a 2nd rounder FOR ANY PLAYER ON OUR ROSTER except for maybe Palmer.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
2nd Bronco to caoch the Raiders…hopefully this time arround, its a good one!
January 25th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Allen is well regarded in NFL coaching circles as bright, energetic, hard-working and driven to succeed.
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yahoo!
January 25th, 2012 at 6:07 am
517.al d. davis Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Marshawn Lynch is way too old as is DeSean Jackson.
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They both turn 26 this year? WTF do you mean they are too old?
Whoever said sign Marshawn for $2 million is also an idiot. Lynch will be the top paid FA RB this year (Forte will get franchised). Lynch is going to get the money that Bush THINKS he is worth.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:09 am
I saw the $2 million for Lynch last night as well.
That is pretty close to the vet minimum lol.
RB’s don’t get long-term contracts, but I think Lynch might get a 2 year $12 million deal easy.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Romac was either injured, out of shape or he sucks. One more year to prove he belongs.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Denver’s defense sucked. Why does everyone keep saying that they were good?
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Damon,
I agree. the Donkeys defense was trash. Tebow won the AFC West
However – that doesn’t mean Dennis Allen is a bad coach or will flop as HC in Oakland
Bowlen & Elway didn’t give him much to work with imo
January 25th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Take health out of the equation and Lynch is not in DMac’s league.
Trading DMac for a draft pick would be one of the four most FOOLISH things we could do this off-season. The others, in no particular order:
- Trading Carson Palmer
- Firing Hue Jackson (Already did this one)
- Keeping Chuck B and the defensive staff in tact (Presumably not happening)
January 25th, 2012 at 6:15 am
One thing you have to worry about with RoMac is I believe he has two more years on his contract. I would expect him to have a big 2013, unless he just flat-out can’t play. That production could creep into 2012. But can’t get suckered into giving him mega-bucks based on that.
That’s something to think about when talking about Marshawn Lynch as well. Guy was declining each year pretty much. Then goes off in his contract year. Be wary of those guys. I call it the “Haynesworth Doctrine.”
January 25th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Lynch would be a HUGE upgrade over Bush though. Lynch CAN carry the team if need be if DMAC is out for any extended period, where Bush proved he can’t. Lynch was almost unstoppable at the end of last season, and I think our O-Line is better as group at run blocking than Seattle’s
Thing is, Reggie isn’t going to pay Lynch or Bush or any other back that kind of coin to back up DMac.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Under his guidance, the Broncos defense improved from 29th in average yards allowed to 20th and from 32nd in points to 24th.
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Damon,
pretty easy to improve when you’re DEAD LAST (or close to it) in a category, isn’t it?
Chuck Bresnahan could have coached the Donkeys to a 20th ranked defense last year imo
#1 Rushing offense in 2011.
2010 Donks didn’t have McGahee and didn’t start Tebow until the season was basically over. Dumervil missed the ENTIRE year and Von Miller was drafted this year
January 25th, 2012 at 6:16 am
McFadden and Lynch are different type of players but Lynch averages a TD every 36 touches, D-Mac every 32 touches.
Lynch, three 1,000+ yard seasons in 5 years, D-Mac 1 out of 4.
And of course the health issue, WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WITH NFL RB’S.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Von Miller on Dennis Allen:
“First and foremost, they’re getting a guy that’s going to come in right away, and he’s going to get it done,” Miller said. “That’s what he did for us. He came in, he laid out a plan for us, he told us, ‘This is how we’re going to do it, and this will work,’ and that’s what happened. We improved our defense an incredible amount. It was a night and day team from a year before.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:18 am
That’s something to think about when talking about Marshawn Lynch as well. Guy was declining each year pretty much. Then goes off in his contract year. Be wary of those guys. I call it the “Haynesworth Doctrine.”
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I dont know if I would say his product was declining. In Buffalo he was very unhappy, and was running behind a garbage line. Plus at the end of his tenure there they were giving more looks to Freddie Jackson (more versatile as a receiver). Last year in Seattle he was in a constant rotation with Forsett and Washington, but near the end of the year he really came on. Thats the thing with Lynch, he runs BETTER in December than in September.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:18 am
If both players were healthy, and for one game I would much rather have McFadden.
But, I would much rather have Lynch at the beginning of the year, because I can count on him being there at the end of the year.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Lynch’s thing has ALWAYS been that he breaks a ton of tackles, even going back to his days in Cal.
Bush proved, that as he wears down, he become easier and easier to tackle.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Champ Bailey on Dennis Allen:
“He knew how to get us ready,” Bailey said. “I give him a lot of credit for the success we had this year.
“(He’s) serious about the business,” Bailey added. “He’s one of the most intense coaches I’ve had. It was a pleasure working with him. You knew what he was going to bring you every day.”
“I know what type of team he’s going to have,” Bailey said. “Very intense, hard-nosed, tough. That’s the way he is. That’s what I expect his team to be.”
January 25th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Reggie Mac hired Dennis Allen because he has a solid reputation. no-nonsense guy. can relate to players. bright & hard working. energetic & driven
pretty much the opposite of Rolando McClain!
He didn’t just hire him because he wanted the job. He didn’t just hire him based upon his performance as Horse Humpers DC last year either … he was the “right guy” for the job we’ve been looking for and finally found
January 25th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I hope Allen installs some accountability on our defense.
I don’t want to see TK or Wimbley jump offsides for the umpteenth time, and just shake their head and have the HC just stare into space (see, Huebert).
Pull their azz out of the game and make a point. Don’t have to scream at them, just pull them and let them think about it on the sidelines.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Bush will not be back, guaranteed. RB’s are a dime a dozen and there are a bunch in free agency that can be had for half of what Bush will haul in and can be just as productive.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:27 am
You know if guys like Champ and Von Miller can say that about Allen, then I will take it…but, can anyone find stuff the Broncos were saying about Shanahan back in 88 when we hired him away from Denver?
January 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
RRS and JFB at 588 and 589 are ON POINT.
Mornin’ Nation. A new day has dawned!
January 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
oh the great optimism by fans ,,, reggie mc is so smart huh ? tell me what reggie mc would do about the national debt why dont ya ? anywhow. i would rather have a healthy dmac over any running back in the n.f.l. healthy . and dennis allen already hasa bid fast defense here. he needs to be looking for a smart one .
January 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I don’t want to see TK or Wimbley jump offsides for the umpteenth time, and just shake their head and have the HC just stare into space (see, Huebert).
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Can somone find out the details of denvers penalties? I know they were middle of the pasck bu I’m curios as to the numbers on the defensive side, obviously
January 25th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Bush will regret getting the ball and just falling forward for 2-3 yds. the last 6 games for a 3.8 avg.
The best thing financially for him would’ve been for DMAC to come back after the SD game and for Bush to sit the remainder of season.
He probably lost millions playing the rest of the season, giving GM’s across the league a chance to see what he was really about over the longer haul.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:30 am
HWNDR football players are idiots. athletes dont know jack about which coach can get it done. if it were up to raider players tom cable woulda never left . laker players want brian shaw. who gives a good goat damn what von miller & overrated champ bailey say . not like they hall of famers
January 25th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Traditionally, Matt Flynn would’ve been a classic, high contract, Raider move with his 2 game flash of greatness.
Not enuff of a sample size and a huge gamble if any team looks to him to be their franchise dude.
As I said, Raiders (traditionally) make that move..amid much fanfare.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:32 am
DORIANGRAY,IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A HEALTHY DMAC 4 16GAMES ?
January 25th, 2012 at 6:32 am
i remember two games when jerry porter was giving champ bailey the bizness. i recall when ronald curry straight went ham on champ . u guys think stanford routt is bad ? sheesh .
January 25th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Champ Bailey will be a FIRST BALLOT HOFer.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:34 am
dirtlot , dmac couldnt stay healthy during an all day orgy . he would sprain his groin and have to be replaced.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:35 am
D-Mac is like the hot azz girlfriend who rocks your world, but only really wants it once or twice a month.
It’s great when it happens, but you have to have a plan B or C for the rest of the month.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:37 am
POST-601,NEXT MAN UP…
January 25th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Allen wasn’t a part of Gregg Williams’ plan when he took over New Orleans’ defense two years ago. Williams wanted to hire someone else to coach his defensive backs when he arrived, and Payton insisted Williams give Allen a year to prove himself.
Allen’s secondary intercepted 26 passes and helped the Saints to a dominant plus-11 giveaway/takeaway ratio on their way to the Super Bowl last season.
This season, New Orleans’ defense took another leap. The Saints’ takeaways plummeted from 39 to 25, but they were stingier across the board, improving from 25th in the league in total defense to fourth.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:39 am
This Patriot stuff is nauseating. So sick of Willie McGinest gushing like a bridesmaid about his history with them.
“The Patriot Way” etc. “First of all nobody ever out coaches Bill Belicheck”. “I know Tommy (Brady), and Tommy wants to win more than anything. That’s the Patriot way of doing things. That’s why they are the best organization in all of sports”.
McGinest just absolutely eats up the media perception of the Pats. I think he has an orgasm anytime he’s given the chance to gush about them, and his relationship with them.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:42 am
605.djohnnyg Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 6:39 am
This Patriot stuff is nauseating. So sick of Willie McGinest gushing like a bridesmaid about his history with them.
“The Patriot Way” etc. “First of all nobody ever out coaches Bill Belicheck”. “I know Tommy (Brady), and Tommy wants to win more than anything. That’s the Patriot way of doing things. That’s why they are the best organization in all of sports”.
McGinest just absolutely eats up the media perception of the Pats. I think he has an orgasm anytime he’s given the chance to gush about them, and his relationship with them.
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It’s nauseating when you hear it about a rival, but I wouldn’t mind hearing that about the Raider Way.
Maybe we’ve taken a couple of small steps in that direction.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:43 am
makes u wonder what boston fans & the media gonna think of the PATRIOT WAY when tom brady & belicheck are gone. reality hits hard , ask colts fans .
January 25th, 2012 at 6:44 am
I like this hire, just for the simple fact there will be discipline and attn to detail on the D for once. This unit has pissed me off for so many years and i think this is the piece of the puzzle we’ve been waiting for.
People will critcize and pick apart every play and move Allen will make, but i’m giving him a fair shot.
Hue is gone, water under the bridge…let’s move on.
I have that CB mentality. Brush off the last play, whatever happened in the past move on and work harder the next play.
Things that i expect will happen with the new changes.
Discipline: Finally have someone to hold players accountable for stupid penalties, blown assignments, filling wrong gaps, etc.. Attn to detail is important.
Turnovers: How many times do we watch these players on D tackle or in pass coverage and not look for the ball? I can’t understand that they rarely ever go for the strip or look up for the ball. They will have a seek and destroy mentality now, locating the ball, trying to create turnovers.
Scheme: I feel this new hire will put players in better position to succeed. We’ll see more timely blitzes and less 3rd and longs repeatedly converted.
I’m also looking forward in who is brought in to run the D. Just by not retaining Bres is a huge upgrade. The O will be fine, the D desperately needed change!
January 25th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Allen’s secondary intercepted 26 passes and helped the Saints to a dominant plus-11 giveaway/takeaway ratio on their way to the Super Bowl last season.
This season, New Orleans’ defense took another leap. The Saints’ takeaways plummeted from 39 to 25, but they were stingier across the board, improving from 25th in the league in total defense to fourth.
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This makes sense; Allen’s defensive style, from what I’ve read, is hyper aggressive. that’s going to lead to a lot of turnovers, but also you’re going to give up a lot of yards.
Above all, it needs playmakers in the secondary. I really hope the Raiders can land Roman Harper. Huff could be a guy to be moved out for a 2nd rounder, maybe.
Harper plays strong safety, though…could Branch handle FS? Giordano’s a good backup/spot starter, but no way do I want him playing full time.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Show me what the great Bill Belichek has done without Tom Brady in his coaching career? What’s his record without Brady again?
It’s not fair to take away his success for that reason, as I hate whn people say dumb stuff like “Without Jordan, the Bulls don’t win jack”. Or “If the Lakers didn’t have Kobe they wouldn’t have won anything”, as if it somehow taints the titles.
But…I would love to see what the “MASTER” Belichek would do without Brady. If he’s as great as they make him out to be, he would win regardless.
Just sick of the Belichek crap.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:48 am
But…I would love to see what the “MASTER” Belichek would do without Brady. If he’s as great as they make him out to be, he would win regardless.
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Not for nothing, but he went 11-5 without Brady in 2008
January 25th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Scratch Harper; he was re-signed to a contract extension after the lockout….the site I was looking at hasn’t been updated. NEVERMIND!
January 25th, 2012 at 6:50 am
what belichech seemingly has done well is what i think head coaches should do . 1. make the right roster moves. 2. get the team ready to play each week (motivated, practice). 3. give a good pre game speech .
January 25th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Allen’s Bronco D was the 6th best in 3rd down %
That is a lot more valuable a stat than yards per game.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Allen’s Bronco D was the 6th best in 3rd down %
That is a lot more valuable a stat than yards per game.
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Exactly.
I’m glad there’s sites like Football Outsiders trying to delve deeper into the numbers much like sabermetrics in baseball.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:57 am
bcz24 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 6:48 am
But…I would love to see what the “MASTER” Belichek would do without Brady. If he’s as great as they make him out to be, he would win regardless.
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Not for nothing, but he went 11-5 without Brady in 2008
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He also wons two rings as DC of the Giants. So he’s been to the Super Bowl in a significant capacity (HC or DC) six times and has five rings.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Make that seven times a week and a half from now.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:58 am
614.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Allen’s Bronco D was the 6th best in 3rd down %
That is a lot more valuable a stat than yards per game.
I will take that and less scoring td’s…rushing or passing…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:00 am
SnbPA,
I never understood the value of yards per game defensively.
I can see it a little more offensively, but I would rather my team give up 10 yards on 3rd and 12 than give up 5 yards on 3rd and 4.
Defensively, I like to look at turnovers created, points per game, 3rd down % and QB rating allowed.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:03 am
what up NATION?
January 25th, 2012 at 7:04 am
I am logged in under this account as Thec07 was block yesterday.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:04 am
they were stingier across the board, improving from 25th in the league in total defense to fourth
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CW,
they added Shaun Rogers & Aubrayo Franklin to the D-Line. that made a HUGE difference
January 25th, 2012 at 7:04 am
So why was I banned or blocked????
January 25th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:00 am
SnbPA,
I never understood the value of yards per game defensively.
I can see it a little more offensively, but I would rather my team give up 10 yards on 3rd and 12 than give up 5 yards on 3rd and 4.
Defensively, I like to look at turnovers created, points per game, 3rd down % and QB rating allowed.
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Yards against means fvck all. If the Raiders give up 95 yards and 0 points when Romac shoulda stopped Stafford, it’s a succesful stop, regardless of the yards. Same goes for that other 98 yard drive.
Keep them outta the end zone, go after the ball and keep the 3rd or 4th down %’s low. Succesful defense.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Thec07 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Jerry you are only a few hours late…Scoped again by the Semi’s however, you are much better than cockran…
He is always sleep at the switch…
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Comments like this get you banned
January 25th, 2012 at 7:07 am
4.Thec07 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Jerry > cockran…
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Comments like this get you banned
January 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Thec07 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:50 am
DMAC Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Jerry,
Time to sign a semi-pro blogger to pinch hit for you.
Corky is batting .133 w/ 0 homeruns
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cockran coundnt hit a home run 10 ft from the fence…
Semi Pro’s > Jerry, cockran, becker
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Comments like this get you banned
January 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
yep, the mods run this blog like a communist country thec. u better get in line .
January 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
What’s up Thec?
January 25th, 2012 at 7:10 am
622.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:04 am
they were stingier across the board, improving from 25th in the league in total defense to fourth
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CW,
they added Shaun Rogers & Aubrayo Franklin to the D-Line. that made a HUGE difference
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The SB season was 2009, so the following season would be 2010, franklin and Rogers weren’t on the team.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Free agents to keep your eyes on:
Carl Nicks, G, Saints…Holy sh!t, an interior line combo of Nicks-Wiz-Carlisle would be dominating.
Robert Mathis, DE, Colts…Still got a few years left in his tank and he could create a tremendous pass rushing force with Shaughnessy coming off the other edge. It’d also allow Houston to move inside where he belongs.
Cortland Finnegan, CB, Titans…Exactly the kind of playmaking, physical corner the Raiders need. Likely to be franchised though.
Jermichael Finley, TE, Packers…A weapon every QB would love to have
Wes Welker, WR, Patriots…Would be amazing, but it’ll be a cold day in hell before he leaves the Pats
Mario Williams, DE, Texans…If the Raiders could land him, it’d be the most important FA signing they’ve made since Rich Gannon. But I don’t see any way the Texans let him walk.
Ben Grubbs, G, Ravens…Would be a GREAT second choice if Nicks can’t be had
Curtis Lofton, MLB, Falcons…One of the most underrated players in the league, this guy is everything RoMac should be. If I could make one move happen this off-season, it might be trading McClain for a pick or two and signing Lofton.
Marques Colston, WR, Saints…Would instantly be the Raiders’s #1 WR and combined with DMoore and DHB, would give the Raiders a fearsome top 3.
Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Broncos…This one may actually happen. Bunkley is an incredibly strong run stuffer who performed very well for Allen in Denver.
Paul Soliai, NT, Dolphins…If Allen brings in a DC who runs the 4-3, Soliai is just the guy you want manning the middle. Not sure how he’d fare in a 4-3 though.
Aubrayo Franklin, NT, Saints…See above. He didn’t fare so well in a 4-3 this year.
Reggie Wayne, WR, Colts…Even at 33, would be the Raiders’s #1 receiver. Probably has 3 good years left in him. Seems to be on the outs with the Colts.
Peyton Hillis, RB, Browns…If Bush departs, he’d be a good replacement as he can handle the load if (when) DMac gets hurt but is probably better suited as a backup. Seemed to iron out his attitude problems as the year went on.
Robert Meachem, WR, Saints…If New Orleans locks up Colston, they may not have the dough left to retain Meachem who would be a good addition.
Tracy Porter, CB, Saints…Would make an excellent #2 CB paired with Routt.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Hey steve cockran, you do suck at this blog thing. the Semi’s allways scope you. you are the worst of the worst when it comes to getting intel on time. You are supposed to be an isider and yet PFT and RNS allways have intel hours if not days before you jerry, and becker.
Without the Semi’s posting on this blog, this blog would be nada, zip, nothing….
Semi Pro’s> fat kidd, cockran, and alias
January 25th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Paul Soliai, NT, Dolphins…If Allen brings in a DC who runs the 4-3, Soliai is just the guy you want manning the middle. Not sure how he’d fare in a 4-3 though.
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First 4-3 should be 3-4. But you probably knew that.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:12 am
doriangray Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
yep, the mods run this blog like a communist country thec. u better get in line .
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hahahaha… no way man…. the mods are the ones posting as aliases, and cloning peoples logins….
January 25th, 2012 at 7:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
What’s up Thec?
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whats good Bruh? same story diff day…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:13 am
627.Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Thec07 Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:50 am
DMAC Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Jerry,
Time to sign a semi-pro blogger to pinch hit for you.
Corky is batting .133 w/ 0 homeruns
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cockran coundnt hit a home run 10 ft from the fence…
Semi Pro’s > Jerry, cockran, becker
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Comments like this get you banned
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I guess I can expect to be banned from this I posted earlier, and again right now
556.Carl Weathers Says:
Steve “the Spoon” Cockring is a 9er fan is he not? Still cryin over sundays loss…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:14 am
I guess I can expect to be banned from this I posted earlier, and again right now
556.Carl Weathers Says:
Steve “the Spoon” Cockring is a 9er fan is he not? Still cryin over sundays loss…
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you just might…
cockran took it personal and made it about himself…well he does suc at the blog thing…
hey cockran stick to twitter, ya suc at the blog…
kick rocks…lol
January 25th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Defensively, I like to look at turnovers created, points per game, 3rd down % and QB rating allowed.
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JFB,
Chuck’s defense bested Dennis’ in 2 out of 4 last year.
18 INT’s to 9
QB rating allowed
January 25th, 2012 at 7:19 am
SilverandblackPA, solid post on FA’s Bruh. I see a few potential issues with picking up FA’s;
1. the cost
2. how much tread left?
3. Injury issues?
Now if we can get some of the guys on the cheap that have some tread like a reggie wayne that would be cool.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Corky = hacky
January 25th, 2012 at 7:22 am
IMO you guys can forget about marshawn lynch coming to oakland. Too many negative influences in the town.
Too easy to get into trouble…Not good for him or the NATION.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Corky = hacky
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cockran = dichead
January 25th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Tracy Porter would be an awesome pickup, that would make plenty of sense.
He would easily push Routt for the #1 CB spot.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Raiders hire Allen to replace fired Jackson
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hey cockran why include jackson in the title?
I know you hated jackson, but why did he bang ya broad?
Oh i forgot you don’t like women…Never mind.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:25 am
I don’t think criticism of Steve or Jerry will get one banned. At least I would hope not.
My guess would be the use of names like ‘cockring’ and ‘cockran’ is the actual trigger.
A bit thin skinned ? Perhaps. IMO, not worthy of a banning, but I can understand why Steve and the moderators would be offended by this.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Paul Soliai, NT, Dolphins – this guy would be very nice…
We have needed a real young hungry run stuffer in the trench…He would fit the build…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:27 am
RRS, why are you downplaying what Allen did in denver last year?
Made the switch from 3-4 to 4-3 with no offseason for the players.
Lost Ty Warren boefore the season started and all the other starters worth anything missed games throughout the season.
Half the starters on the field would be back ups on most other teams.
He didn’t take them from worst to first but he did make them a tough defense that improved to respectability with a weak offense.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
A bit thin skinned ? Perhaps. IMO, not worthy of a banning, but I can understand why Steve and the moderators would be offended by this.
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Truly thin skinned….
steve knows he sucs at the blog…and his live chats are lame…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Thec,
you gotta quit with the Steve Corkran bashing. You’re starting to sound like one of his bitter ex-girlfriends
Steve & Jon do an excellent job. Jerry fills in when Steve isn’t available.
If Jerry Mac gets the “blog pimp” title back, i’m sure we’ll be notified – until then, just chill
Corkran > McDonald 24/7
January 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
I miss Jerry Mac.
As much as people may hate on him, I got the inside raw on him as his old man lived a few houses down from my uncle, and my cousin worked with him at the Trib.
Hard worker, doesn’t take himself too serious, and the whole family is diehard Raider Nation.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:29 am
raidermann .. i was banned for 3 years on my ip adress for critiscizng jerry under the name SATANOWESALDAVIS . i just got back in months ago .
January 25th, 2012 at 7:30 am
I do think Cork’s chats are a little more opinionated than Jerry’s though.
I think Mr. Mac mailed it in on a few of his chats.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:30 am
good no more 3-4 nonsense……
January 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
I am gald we went D coach, not sure if he is the one or not.
First order of business for allen
1. fire bres
2. Restructure the check cashers
3. Focus strickly on the D to FIX THE TRENCH
January 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
The 15 million the Raids save when they release Seymour will go a long way to signing a viable FA MLB to replace Slowlando.
Writing is on the wall.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Thec,
you gotta quit with the Steve Corkran bashing. You’re starting to sound like one of his bitter ex-girlfriends
Steve & Jon do an excellent job. Jerry fills in when Steve isn’t available.
If Jerry Mac gets the “blog pimp” title back, i’m sure we’ll be notified – until then, just chill
Corkran > McDonald 24/7
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RR, I was bashing the clown before I was banned, I wont stop now.
Jerry > corckran the clown all day every day…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:33 am
You guys need to slow up a bit. Reggie isn’t going to just release a guy like Seymour. Just because you don’t like the guy doesn’t mean he isn’t respected. Plus just cutting him will not help our salary cap situation. Seys salary is guaranteed, and would be a massive cap hit in the form of dead money.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
and the whole family is diehard Raider Nation.
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I knew Jer was a Raider fan, many times he mentioned having grown up around the team and gone to the games as akid. I understood his bitterness towards the team and appreciated his criticism and skepticism.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
The 15 million the Raids save when they release Seymour will go a long way to signing a viable FA MLB to replace Slowlando.
Writing is on the wall.
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“IF” we stay stay 4-3 I do not want him playing mike…
He is an ILB playing out of position. We could have kept morrison…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:35 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
The 15 million the Raids save when they release Seymour will go a long way to signing a viable FA MLB to replace Slowlando.
Writing is on the wall.
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Seymour is guaranteed $7.5 million of that, so they’d only be saving $7.5 million, but the point still stands.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:37 am
lets not forget he had bookends that caused havoc in dumervill, and miller…
Miller’s broken thumb impacted the D…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:37 am
lets not forget he had bookends that caused havoc in dumervill, and miller…
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Miller was playing strongside LB, so I wonder if Allen can make Wimbley into the same player.
Hopefully Shaughnessy can be his Dumervil.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Seymour is guaranteed $7.5 million no matter what, and I am not sure how the other half works towards the cap if we cut him.
I think we need to just suck it up and take our medicine with him, pay out his last year and let him walk next year (or re-up at a much deeper discounted price).
January 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
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January 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Seymour is guaranteed $7.5 million of that, so they’d only be saving $7.5 million, but the point still stands.
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Not even, because the 15 million he got last year was in the form of a bonus and prorate over the 2 years of the deal. So if 7.5 is guaranteed, plus the 7.5 cap hit from last years bonus, we are talking 15 million of cap space for a player NOT on the roster… mediocre production is better than NOTHING.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am
lets not forget he had bookends that caused havoc in dumervill, and miller…
Miller’s broken thumb impacted the D…
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So did Dawkins being out with his neck.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am
i dont understand how skip bayless and several sports writers can say ravens got robbed on the lee evans play ??? even if his foot came down he had the ball for 0.75 of a second. now how is that more of a catch than the louis murphy catch in the endzone years ago against san diego ?? louis murphy had 2 feet down , knee hit ground , rolled over & ball came out .
January 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am
I know you hated jackson, but why did he bang ya broad?
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Thec,
did Steve bang yours?
Hue Jackson was a joke and a bunch of people knew it, not just Raider fans & journalists
As evidence, he’s just hoping to latch on as a QB Coach someplace …
January 25th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Rolando McClain does not have “IT” to play mike in the 4-3….
1. Sideline to sideline?
2. Ball attack skills?
3. hitting?
4. Sheding blocks?
5. instincts?
6. crebral capacity?
7. commitment to the nation?
His only hope is to play ILB in a 3-4.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Good points JFB & Bcz24.
Kelly has been paid most of the big guaranteed money in his deal, so I wonder if he could be dealt for a 3rd round pick and a run stuffing specialist like, say, Bunkley signed.
A DT rotation of Seymour, Houston, Bunkley and Bryant could do good things.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Welcome to the Raider Nation, Coach Allen! It’s always a good day when the Raiders D get stronger and the Donks D gets weaker. GO RAIDERS!
January 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
RaiderRockstar, I noticed every time someone says something neg about cockran you allways jump up and defend. Do you know him personally? Are you a relative perhaps?
January 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
I find it more than a little amusing that the Donks have lost within a week the OC that helped Tebow perform to any degree at all and the DC that bailed him out so many times.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Thec,
did Steve bang yours?
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He may have, the real question would be which one?
January 25th, 2012 at 7:43 am
At first I was depressed days on end with the dismissal of Hue Jackson. After some counseling and meds I’ve moved on, but I hope this new coach is no nonesense and the players have enough fear instilled in them by Allen that they perform at a professional level. At least we can look forward to a professional level of defense now, not that quack job we had.
BTW steve, we knew Coach Jackson was fired. No need to mention that. You could of said:
Raiders hire Allen to fill HC vacancy, or
Reggie gets his guy, or
Allen new HC of Raiders, or
Meet the new Raider HC
January 25th, 2012 at 7:43 am
So did Dawkins being out with his neck.
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yeah, dawkins still had some left in the tank…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:44 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/25/jack-del-rio-could-pop-up-in-denver/
This would suxxors
January 25th, 2012 at 7:44 am
I just hope we keep Saunders at OCO, and his playbook…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:45 am
jerry mc lives in the past like most raider fans. expect another article next season about jamarcus russel and one titled WHAT THE RAIDERS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF AL WERE STILL HERE …
January 25th, 2012 at 7:45 am
First order of business for allen
1. fire bres
2. Restructure the check cashers
3. Focus strickly on the D to FIX THE TRENCH
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Thec = semi pro, even when disgruntled
1. Bresnahan is NOT under contract
2. this is Reggie Mac’s job
3. couldn’t agree more!
January 25th, 2012 at 7:46 am
We could have kept morrison
He may have, the real question would be which one?
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LOL!
Thec, I love you bruh. I miss the AM crew
good morning, gents
January 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Adding Jackson’s name to the blog line was not needed.
This is about the NATION getting a new head coach, not the ex raider coach.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Didn’t Allen’s D just give up 45 points to the Pats? Is that overlooked because it was “against the Patriots”?
I am not excited about this hire. I’m not disappointed in Allen being the coach, I’m more disappointed in the fact that with ALL THE EXPERIENCE and CONTACTS McKenzie was supposed to bring to the Raiders, he hired a guy he has NO REPORTED TIES to. I don’t know if budget for HC was the reason, but I hope that McKenzie is not simply running on pride by not pulling anybody from Greenbay.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:46 am
We could have kept morrison
He may have, the real question would be which one?
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LOL!
Thec, I love you bruh. I miss the AM crew
good morning, gents
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Hey Bruh you know we can can always agree to disagree..In the end we are still RAIDER NATION….
January 25th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Hope we get a good OC cuz he gonna be calling the plays.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Big Mac, and Allen about to perform surgery on this pathetic D….
January 25th, 2012 at 7:51 am
he hired a guy he has NO REPORTED TIES to
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That’s a good thing, dude, it means he actually did his due diligence on each candidate and took the hiring process seriously rather than doing a couple token interviews and then just hiring a buddy.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Duke of Earl Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Hope we get a good OC cuz he gonna be calling the plays.
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I wonder if coach Saunders can call the plays. It would be a coup if we can keep him and his war and peace sized playbook….
January 25th, 2012 at 7:51 am
So much for bringing the Packer championship mentality to Oakland. I’m not saying it cannot be setup with this hire, but I AM saying it doesn’t happen overnight as it would have IF McKenzie had a HC from Greenbay to drive the philosophy.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Adding Jackson’s name to the blog line was not needed.
This is about the NATION getting a new head coach, not the ex raider coach.
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Steve really has it bad for Hue. During a live chat a few weeks ago he even went so far as to imply that Hue’s sorrow for the late Al Davis was ingenuine.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:55 am
I was under the impression that the 15 mill Seymour got last year was the only guaranteed portion of his contract.
Thought the 7.5 he is scheduled for this upcoming season wasn’t guaranteed. Obviously, the 7.5 million roster bonus isn’t.
Anyone know when the roster bonus kicks in ? Also, when does trading kick in again ?
It would be better to trade Seymour if at all possible, but the date that trading commences and the date of his roster bonus coming due might make that impossible.
He’s not likely to fetch much in a trade due to salary, age, declining production (can you believe he made the pro-bowl ?), but something is better than nothing.
Unfortunately for the Raids, if they want to free up some money and move on from RS, releasing him might be the only option.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Many of his former players are saying many good things about him, Champ called him very good teacher! Let’s see as this goes down! Pre-season…didn’t Hue go 0-4? Really doesn’t matter…but the key will be who he hires as OC and DC! Let’s wait and see!
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Yeah, and Seymour, Palmer and other key guys had good things to say about Hue. What players have to sway doesn’t matter much unless the guy is sooooo bad that there’s a major rift.
Here’s what I’m worried about. In Denver, Fox is a Defensive Minded head coach. This guy was the DC for him. The defense only improved 8 points with both of these guys…and how much of it was Fox and how much was Allen?
What I get is that he’s an intense guy, and is very “Attack” oriented. That’ll be good. I guess if he has a good Defensive Coordinator and Offensive Coordinator then it’ll be fine.
But…it looks like Jack Del Rio will go to Denver meaning that they are getting an upgrade over our HC there as the Defensive Coordinator. Not a good thing.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Paul Gutierrez
@Raiders have a “handshake” agreement with #Broncos DC Dennis Allen and are working feverishly to get contract done today.
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I assume this means we’ll get the standard Raider homepage shot of him signing his deal. I kind of like those, actually.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Gilligan Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:43 am
At first I was depressed days on end with the dismissal of Hue Jackson. After some counseling and meds I’ve moved on, but I hope this new coach is no nonesense and the players have enough fear instilled in them by Allen that they perform at a professional level. At least we can look forward to a professional level of defense now, not that quack job we had.
BTW steve, we knew Coach Jackson was fired. No need to mention that. You could of said:
Raiders hire Allen to fill HC vacancy, or
Reggie gets his guy, or
Allen new HC of Raiders, or
Meet the new Raider HC
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Spot on…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Steve really has it bad for Hue. During a live chat a few weeks ago he even went so far as to imply that Hue’s sorrow for the late Al Davis was ingenuine.
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Dude went beast mode on jackson after he was fired.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:58 am
RaiderRockstar, I noticed every time someone says something neg about cockran you allways jump up and defend. Do you know him personally? Are you a relative perhaps?
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Thec,
Nope. I’m just a fan of his work – just like you are of Jerry’s
I give credit where credit is due.
I defend him like you defend JFORD … or Debo defends JaMarcus … or Mistic defends Campbell … or Jhill defends McClain … or Dakota defends DMAC … or BSJ defends Jimmy Carter
January 25th, 2012 at 7:59 am
15 mill Seymour
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Including all the other intagibles you listed, this is a main reason why he will not be traded…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Thec,
Nope. I’m just a fan of his work – just like you are of Jerry’s
I give credit where credit is due.
I defend him like you defend JFORD … or Debo defends JaMarcus … or Mistic defends Campbell … or Jhill defends McClain … or Dakota defends DMAC … or BSJ defends Jimmy Carter
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Fair enough…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:00 am
SilverNBlackPA…
he hired a guy he has NO REPORTED TIES to
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That’s a good thing, dude, it means he actually did his due diligence on each candidate and took the hiring process seriously rather than doing a couple token interviews and then just hiring a buddy.
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I hear you BUT its interesting that he didn’t already have a couple of guys in mind after being in the league for so long. NOBODY he knows was a qualified candidate and willing to come take the job??? I’m not saying he should have hired a buddy, but at least hire someone that caught your eye or you had ties with and was capable. Nobody he knew after all these years fit that bill????
What did Allen do to impress him this much?? 20th in defense at Denver? If he hired someone he didn’t have any ties to BUT they were the D Coordinator for Baltimore, thats a different story. This hire is nobody he knew, PLUS, unproven and undistinguished carrer…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:00 am
“I was under the impression that the 15 mill Seymour got last year was the only guaranteed portion of his contract.
Thought the 7.5 he is scheduled for this upcoming season wasn’t guaranteed. Obviously, the 7.5 million roster bonus isn’t.”
Even if we let him go right now we would be on the hook for 7.5 and that counts against the cap. I am guessing on this one but I would assume that whoever we trade him to would also have to agree to pay him the other 7.5. So in essence we would be paying half his salary if we traded him.
This is my understanding of how hard it would be to trade Seymour.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Steve really has it bad for Hue. During a live chat a few weeks ago he even went so far as to imply that Hue’s sorrow for the late Al Davis was ingenuine.
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Dude went beast mode on jackson after he was fired.
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I think he and other bay area reporters were a little cheesed off at Hue running to his BFF Mike Silver with that “Tommy Boy” crapola. On a Paul Gutierrez CSN chat, I asked if he (Paul) thought Silver’s piece was legitimate sports journalism, or a mindless hit piece. His response, after printing the question? “No comment.”
January 25th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Steve really has it bad for Hue.
Dude went beast mode on jackson after he was fired
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Corkran was right about Hue Jackson. He always was!
Jerry McDonald was the dude talking him up, getting his nails done too and jerking him off after all the pressers
Glad ‘Jer’ got demoted and Hue Jax got the axe.
I’m ready to start fresh with McKenzie & Allen!!
January 25th, 2012 at 8:03 am
“I defend him like you defend JFORD … or Debo defends JaMarcus … or Mistic defends Campbell … or Jhill defends McClain … or Dakota defends DMAC … or BSJ defends Jimmy Carter”…and the way Silberandblack666 defends Palmer….in fact I heard that he even has a shrine of Palmer in his house!
January 25th, 2012 at 8:03 am
BRING BACK NICK MILLER…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:03 am
gotta meeting. BBL
January 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
This guy seems like an upgrade over Hue to me. Now let’s see what he can get the team to do. Hue and the team bottomed out at the worst possible time this past season so he had to take one “for the team.” With all of the changes and McKenzie coming in, Hue had to go. I like what this Allen guy is saying (fiery) and noone can deny that the defense needs some work. He is the right guy for the job at this time.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I think he and other bay area reporters were a little cheesed off at Hue running to his BFF Mike Silver with that “Tommy Boy” crapola. On a Paul Gutierrez CSN chat, I asked if he (Paul) thought Silver’s piece was legitimate sports journalism, or a mindless hit piece. His response, after printing the question? “No comment.”
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And rightly so, one of the most shameful displays I’ve ever seen in sports journalism and that covers a lot of ground let me tell you. Silver was flirting dangerously close to libel there.
It was clear he & HueJax were tight and I understand wanting to come to the defense of a pal, but that was NOT the way to do it.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
whatever we do at OCO we should not look at cam cameron once he is banished from balt….
in the pats game he had boldin 1 on 1 with edelman…
didnt play rick williams much
ray rice draw play on 3rd and 2.
this guy is like norve turner, he should be demoted to line or QB coach….
January 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
LTR RR
January 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
IF COACH ALLEN DOESNT MAKE NICE WITH ALL THE PRESS THEY WILL TURN ON HIM TOO .
January 25th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:00 am
“I was under the impression that the 15 mill Seymour got last year was the only guaranteed portion of his contract.
Thought the 7.5 he is scheduled for this upcoming season wasn’t guaranteed. Obviously, the 7.5 million roster bonus isn’t.”
Even if we let him go right now we would be on the hook for 7.5 and that counts against the cap. I am guessing on this one but I would assume that whoever we trade him to would also have to agree to pay him the other 7.5. So in essence we would be paying half his salary if we traded him.
This is my understanding of how hard it would be to trade Seymour.
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He’s a declining DL with a big contract who can still get upfield to rush the passer and can be a big help during the week with the younger linemen in terms of professionalism and preparation.
He also can be controlled in the running game with a single good blocker, and he has a propensity for stupid, drive-extending Personal Fouls.
No team will want to pay $15 Mil for that package.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:06 am
The one thing we know about Allen is discipline it is the one word associated with him and he has a military background.
I think that Reggie knows this is an area that has not been addressed in Oakland for a long time and probably the reason we have been last in run D for almost a decade.
You watch and see who gets the boot now with the new Sheriff in town and his disciplinarian coach.
Going to be interesting.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:07 am
I think that Reggie knows this is an area that has not been addressed in Oakland for a long time and probably the reason we have been last in run D for almost a decade.
You watch and see who gets the boot now with the new Sheriff in town and his disciplinarian coach.
Going to be interesting.
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Amen to that. The inmates are no longer in charge of the asylum.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Not like anyone really gives a rats but this is FormerlyGoodOle and GoodOle00.
Changed names and accounts bcuz of hacks.
WHY?!
I’m thinking its s rival to RNS cuz they seem to actually know some stuff about Oakland. Crazy stupid but they must be doing something right to pizz people off that much.
Speaking of RNS…(Know how much some of U love it
They bring up a good point. Is ALlen experienced enough to pick his own staff?!
Will Mac turn him loose and say pick whoever like some obscure Div II college coach or what?
It’ll be interesting to see who comes on board AND if Bresnahan STAYS…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Big question 4-3, or 3-4?
January 25th, 2012 at 8:15 am
“And rightly so, one of the most shameful displays I’ve ever seen in sports journalism and that covers a lot of ground let me tell you. Silver was flirting dangerously close to libel there.”
Great post that article had me fuming for days I don’t understand how guys are allowed to print articles like that Silver better hope I never meet him in a dark alley!
January 25th, 2012 at 8:15 am
713. “Amen to that. The inmates are no longer in charge of the asylum.”
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Last time I heard that tired cliche? When we hired Art Shell the 2nd time…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Steven A and Skip are hilarious TV, mayne.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:16 am
niether thec. we need to run a 4-6 . . bring it back
January 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
716. So inflammatory it must be true because if it wasn’t and I was marky mark I’d have sued his azz Al D style…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
719. Like we did against Jacksonville a couple of years ago with 6 Safeties on the field.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:18 am
719. Hope that was a joke cuz the 4-6 as a base is no longer viable because of West coast O picks it apart.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Big question 4-3, or 3-4?
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Both.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:18 am
4-3!!!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Great Morning Raider brethren, Hus Jackson apologists, Giordano lovers and you other wierdos!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 8:22 am
RaiderWeaponX Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:08 am
They bring up a good point. Is ALlen experienced enough to pick his own staff?!
Will Mac turn him loose and say pick whoever like some obscure Div II college coach or what?
It’ll be interesting to see who comes on board AND if Bresnahan STAYS…
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At this point, I wouldn’t care if Bres DOES stay. It’ll be Allen’s defense all the way. A good DC would be nice because he could add some of his own ideas into the mix, but if Bres stayed and was just ordered to run Allen’s D without question, that’d be OK too.
As for the assistants, I’m sure it will be a collaborative process, with Allen having the final say. Allen won’t have nearly as many contacts as Reggie.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:28 am
721.RaiderWeaponX Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
719. Like we did against Jacksonville a couple of years ago with 6 Safeties on the field.
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Actually the 46 doesnt have 6 safties, it has 1. I am not quite sure of why it is called the 46 when in reality is a 5-3. 5 down lineman, with each lineman lining up over an olineman (or in a gap if they offset) with three LBs.
It is stout against the run, but will get you destroyed in the passing games employed today.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:29 am
At this point, I wouldn’t care if Bres DOES stay.
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I would rather shave my nuts with a cheese grater than see this clown on the sidelines again. Slap yourself and don’t post again until you come to your senses.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:30 am
So does Allen keep Al Saunders and coaches like Wisniewski?? Or does he cut bait?
January 25th, 2012 at 8:30 am
726. Nice Duck but I would care if Bres stayed. Not sure what it’ll be like with a GM now but pretty sure a super green rookie HC is gonna have more to do than babysit and call D plays.
I’d worry if Bres stayed. Alot.
If Saunders stays, maybe the O can take care of itself for the most part but it seems like this is an awfully young inexperienced cast incuding the 18 yr vet Mac who has never been a GM.
Frankly, I’m not smart enuff to know the diff between “Director of Football Ops” and “General Manager” but thinking they must have commonality.
Either way just hope we win…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:32 am
727. Oh yeah, I’m aware its not run with 6 safeties but thats what our DC did and pretty sure it was part of the reason he was fired!
We do run a 5-3 and did last yr until Shaughnessy was injured.
In fact, that TD we gave up to Buffalo that cost us the game?
That was a 5 man front…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:42 am
what it do Nation?
I am in the minority here, but I am excited with this hire.
1. Not a tired re-tread like Tice, Morning-wood, et al
2. Defensive-minded coach a la Madden
3. Stolen from our rival
4. Good pedigree between Sean Payton and John Fox
I know this is so preliminary, but some thoughts on who Allen might bring on to the coaching staff as OC and DC:
-Joe Lombardi, QB Coach for the Saints, former Defensive QC with the Falcons, and Vince Lombardi’s grandson. I could see him being brought over as the QB coach and eventual successor to Al Saunders if that doesnt work out; or he might just be hired as the OC outright
-Richard Smith, LB coach for the Broncos, former DC for Texans and I think Miami, so he has defensive play-calling experience and might be able to help Allen institute his vision for the defense.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:29 am
At this point, I wouldn’t care if Bres DOES stay.
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I would rather shave my nuts with a cheese grater than see this clown on the sidelines again. Slap yourself and don’t post again until you come to your senses.
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You didn’t read my whole post. It will be ALLEN’S defense all the way. The actual DC doesn’t matter a whole lot. If Bres was NE’s defense coordinator, would there be some massive drop-off? No, because it’s Belichick’s defense. Same thing here.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:47 am
733. Actually Duck there couldn’t be a massive drop off because the Pats D was one of the WORST. Coming on when it counts though thanks to Sterling Raider Moore…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:47 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:42 am
what it do Nation?
I am in the minority here, but I am excited with this hire.
1. Not a tired re-tread like Tice, Morning-wood, et al
2. Defensive-minded coach a la Madden
3. Stolen from our rival
4. Good pedigree between Sean Payton and John Fox
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Actually, you’re not in the minority. Most of us LOVE this hire, but it’s the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism (to quote Spiro Agnew) who write a lot of the posts.
Knowledgeable Raider fans are behind Allen 100%.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Vote NO to the OAKLAND RAIDERS Moving to LA
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
January 25th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Cfrylopez Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Vote NO to the OAKLAND RAIDERS Moving to LA
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
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Then again, Hickory Smoked Spam has its uses as well, particularly when fried…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:55 am
BTW, has anyone else noticed the site’s servers crashing a bunch this morning?
January 25th, 2012 at 8:57 am
site keeps crashing becuase becker let cockran touch it…
fire cockran, and slaker becker…
January 25th, 2012 at 8:57 am
“I am in the minority here, but I am excited with this hire.”
I like it as well this is a change from how we have always done things in the past so I will cal it a positive move in the right direction until I see it otherwise.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Meanwhile, no deal has been signed, but they’re expecting one later today.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/McKenzie-Allen-have-handshake-agreement?blockID=637914&feedID=2801
January 25th, 2012 at 9:00 am
i am not going to call it one way or the other until I see the guy actually do something. He hasn’t even signed his contract yet, so I think its a bit early to judge if it is a good or bad move…
January 25th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Raider duck.. I’m behind him just because of the simple fact he’s not Mike Tice. . Allen will be a good coach.. I trust Reggies gut. D Allen reminds me of a young Mike Riley. HC if the Oregon St beavers. .. he had a stint as hc in San Diego awhile back.. he was a good coach. Always good defensive teams But just had a bad team with ni qb.. I hope Allen is better than him ofcourse. But I’m OK with Allen.. I know the broncos don’t get a taste of the playoffs without Allen’s defense. That’s fir sure..
January 25th, 2012 at 9:22 am
LMAO at #728.
Oh, and it’s about time someone called Bayless the d-bag that he is on television.
Good morning, Nation.
January 25th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Yeah, nothing to do but wait and see how it goes. Long Live Raider Nation!!
January 25th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Post 738 jinxed the servers.
January 25th, 2012 at 9:41 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NOOOOO000000oooo to the Oakland Raiders moving to LA!
January 25th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Emmitt Thomas our next DC?
I can get behind that.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
The more I learn about Allen the more excited I get. For once we actually get a young up and coming guy that doesnt reject us like Sean Payton or Sarkisian did.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 01-25-12: ROOKIES AT THE HELM
With a 1st time GM and HC whats in store for the post Davis Raiders?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
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Only time will tell…
January 25th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Dennis Allen
Aaron Kromer
Emmitt Thomas
Make it happen.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am
aig-raiders Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
The more I learn about Allen the more excited I get. For once we actually get a young up and coming guy that doesnt reject us like Sean Payton or Sarkisian did.
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Hypothetically, if Al were alive, would John Fox recommend Allen take the job, if he asked Fox for his advice?
January 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Man, see what U mean about the site cutting out Duck. Agravating!
Enjoy the day all. I’ll try back later
January 25th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Dennis Allen
Aaron Kromer
Emmitt Thomas
Make it happen.
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I think Kromer just took another job with someone.
Thomas I wouldn’t mind.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
A lot of talk about Jack Del Rio going to Denver.
I would hope that we keep Al Saunders so Palmer can start his off season work with him.
As far as a DC I doubt this will be someone we al know this will probably be where our new Coach brings in his own guy.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Dennis Allen
Aaron Kromer
Emmitt Thomas
Make it happen.
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I think Kromer just took another job with someone.
Thomas I wouldn’t mind.
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He’s been with the Saints for the past few years.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:41 am
I personally hope we DONT keep Saunders as OC.
Wylie/Wiz is the only coaches I would want back. And thats only if Allen wants them.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Yesterday I voiced my opinion against Allen for HC.
But today is a new day, and you know what? Im excited! Lets get this baby on the road! Trim the fat, get players in here who want to prepare and play hard!
Our D sucks! but Allen could fix that (Cant be worse than Chuky B).
Our O is solid. Keep it that way!
Lets kick some AFC West butt!
January 25th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Allen / Kromer / Thomas
Win the West.
We dont need no stinking continuity.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
This site is jacked up.
Just trying to kill some time and get stonewalled.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Mark Davis – “I know what I don’t know.”
Various semi-pros here – “I don’t wanna know what I don’t know ’cause my opinion is all that counts!”
January 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
The only continuity we need is when we find a coach that wins games and can get the most out of players, we freakin’ keep him!
January 25th, 2012 at 10:48 am
arj Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 8:00 am
SilverNBlackPA…
he hired a guy he has NO REPORTED TIES to
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That’s a good thing, dude, it means he actually did his due diligence on each candidate and took the hiring process seriously rather than doing a couple token interviews and then just hiring a buddy.
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I hear you BUT its interesting that he didn’t already have a couple of guys in mind after being in the league for so long. NOBODY he knows was a qualified candidate and willing to come take the job??? I’m not saying he should have hired a buddy, but at least hire someone that caught your eye or you had ties with and was capable. Nobody he knew after all these years fit that bill????
What did Allen do to impress him this much?? 20th in defense at Denver? If he hired someone he didn’t have any ties to BUT they were the D Coordinator for Baltimore, thats a different story. This hire is nobody he knew, PLUS, unproven and undistinguished carrer…
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This is a good point. For a guy who was so decisive about firing Hue — before the two men even met — he seemed to be out there blindly groping through this coaching search.
I’m just glad he didn’t offer the job to Sandusky.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:52 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO! IN LA Times poll asking should the Oakland Raiders Move to LA!
January 25th, 2012 at 10:54 am
cfrylopez Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 10:52 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO! IN LA Times poll asking should the Oakland Raiders Move to LA
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With all due respect. SHUT THE HELL UP.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Hey Chico, we get it,…now go get a life. F that poll. And F you too.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Steve Hutchinson is looking like a cap casualty in Minnesota.
Would be a good signing. Moves Wiz to C.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I’m going to vote–Yes!..thanks
January 25th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Honestly CfRY, are you that fking retarded? Its a POLL numbnuts, you know the OUTCOME of this result wont affect whether Lloyd Christmas will move the team to LA.
Anyways, why hasnt the RAIDERS made the HIRE OFFICIAL? theres nothing in their website.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Because no contract has been signed.
Hard to announce something that isnt official.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:02 am
I love the new hire,…its exactly what we needed.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:03 am
303Raider here reporting from Donktown, USA.
Since I live in Denver, ALL i am hearing is that is a BIG BLOW to the Donkies! We all watch football and the ONLY reason the donks won the West was Because there defense was better than ours and the denfese keep them in Games. During that 6 game streak, they were holding opponents to about 13 points, besides the Minnesota game.
Of course they had the worst Passing Offense and towards the end, the defense tired out, and teams figured out to stack the Run adn how to play Teblows.
This is a GREAT hire also as the ONLY current NFL coach that was hired withing the Division is: Bill Belicheat. How did that work out for NE the last 10 years?
I know some of you are in the ‘wait & see” approach, but this is EXACTLY what we need!
FIX THE STUPID, PENALTY, KNUCKLEHEAD, PLAYS WE HAVE MADE FOR YEARS AND BRING IS SOME SMART PLAYERS!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Welcome to the Nation Mr. Allen.
I can’t believe there’s so many whining crybabies on this blog.
Ya’ll need to stop complaining like some little b!tches.
At least give the dude a fair shot to coach, before judging him.
Nuff said!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:04 am
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
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whats good???
January 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Wattup TheC?
January 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Its not Thec,..its The C!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Welcome to the Nation Mr. Allen.
I can’t believe there’s so many whining crybabies on this blog.
Ya’ll need to stop complaining like some little b!tches.
At least give the dude a fair shot to coach, before judging him.
Nuff said!
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hahahahahahaha….guy has not made 1 move and he is getting dunked on…awesome…
January 25th, 2012 at 11:06 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Its not Thec,..its The C!!!
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Hello…Question, how in the hell do you know that?
Who are you?
January 25th, 2012 at 11:07 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Wattup TheC?
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Whats good Amy? Do I know you????
January 25th, 2012 at 11:07 am
What up Thec?
I’m blessed to breathing 2day man.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:08 am
its funny how the “hue ” loyalists just cant let it go. now they are all over reggie for hiring an ex bronco, not having a clear candidate before the interview process, and actually having more than 5 candidates to interview. For guys who support a coach who lost 4 out of the last 5,had his team go from 1st to 3rd in 5 weeks, lost the last game at home that would have gotten into the playoffs, never delivered on any of his promises, made a ton of bad decisions its seems like they are unfair to question reggie right now. IMO reggie’s decision to fire Hue was alot easier than who to hire. It’s tough to guarantee allen’s success or failure at this point but I do know getting rid of Hue was 100% the right thing to do. Let it go guys, you can still have your mancrush on Hue but move on..
January 25th, 2012 at 11:09 am
FIX THE STUPID, PENALTY, KNUCKLEHEAD, PLAYS WE HAVE MADE FOR YEARS AND BRING IS SOME SMART PLAYERS!!
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Truth
no more check cashers, or college scholarships
no more reaches, or “potential players”
January 25th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:07 am
What up Thec?
I’m blessed to breathing 2day man.
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Glad to hear Bruh… I didn’t wanting you cussing anyone out this morning…lol
January 25th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Thec
If you get a chance, check out our new slap I just uploaded to youtube. Its called “packin”
Its dope!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
nycraider Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:08 am
its funny how the “hue ” loyalists just cant let it go. now they are all over reggie for hiring an ex bronco, not having a clear candidate before the interview process, and actually having more than 5 candidates to interview. For guys who support a coach who lost 4 out of the last 5,had his team go from 1st to 3rd in 5 weeks, lost the last game at home that would have gotten into the playoffs, never delivered on any of his promises, made a ton of bad decisions its seems like they are unfair to question reggie right now. IMO reggie’s decision to fire Hue was alot easier than who to hire. It’s tough to guarantee allen’s success or failure at this point but I do know getting rid of Hue was 100% the right thing to do. Let it go guys, you can still have your mancrush on Hue but move on..
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GREAT COMMENT NYCRAIDER,
Let me also state to the Hugh lovers (here’s looking at you chris in NY) How many HC openings has Hugh interviewed for, as of today, ZEROOOOOOOO. Hugh has had one Offensive Coord position interview and was not selected, Hugh was beaten out by Schottheimer, and now Hugh is maybe in the runnning for Ariz QB coach. Yes that’s a guy you are crying about, get over your man hump and start thinking with your head on your shoulders not the head in the middle of your body.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:16 am
What up Dell?
January 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Yes ya do The C! Hows it goin bro?
January 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Mornin DMAC,
Real dissappointed with the Nation on the hiring.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
What’s up DMAC?
January 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Dell,..disappointed?…well change your tampax and get the F out of here. No more crybabies. New era.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I’m very excited for a hard-nosed Defensive minded coach to take charge and call slackers out – (McClain).
Hope the offensive staff stays largely intact so DAllen can clean house on the D side.
Singletary is an interesting suggestion for DC.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Tarfur says Emmitt Thomas a consideration for our new DC…
January 25th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Raider Dell Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Mornin DMAC,
Real dissappointed with the Nation on the hiring.
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dissapointed w/ the blog or the hiring?
January 25th, 2012 at 11:22 am
What’s the name of the group …I know a guy that knows a guy that’s cousins with p diddys uncle
January 25th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Who is Emmitt Thomas?
January 25th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Raider Dell Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
nycraider Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:08 am
its funny how the “hue ” loyalists just cant let it go. now they are all over reggie for hiring an ex bronco, not having a clear candidate before the interview process, and actually having more than 5 candidates to interview. For guys who support a coach who lost 4 out of the last 5,had his team go from 1st to 3rd in 5 weeks, lost the last game at home that would have gotten into the playoffs, never delivered on any of his promises, made a ton of bad decisions its seems like they are unfair to question reggie right now. IMO reggie’s decision to fire Hue was alot easier than who to hire. It’s tough to guarantee allen’s success or failure at this point but I do know getting rid of Hue was 100% the right thing to do. Let it go guys, you can still have your mancrush on Hue but move on..
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GREAT COMMENT NYCRAIDER,
Let me also state to the Hugh lovers (here’s looking at you chris in NY) How many HC openings has Hugh interviewed for, as of today, ZEROOOOOOOO. Hugh has had one Offensive Coord position interview and was not selected, Hugh was beaten out by Schottheimer, and now Hugh is maybe in the runnning for Ariz QB coach. Yes that’s a guy you are crying about, get over your man hump and start thinking with your head on your shoulders not the head in the middle of your body.
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and btw Chris in NY should know how bad schottheimer was as a coordinator..he was the worst and for him to beat out Hue is enough said
January 25th, 2012 at 11:23 am
741. McKenzie seems to be having fun jerking Guiterez off.
Hilarious!~
January 25th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Raider Dell Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Mornin DMAC,
Real dissappointed with the Nation on the hiring.
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dissapointed w/ the blog or the hiring?
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What they have said about Reggie, and his challenge to find the right HC and when Reggie Allen hired, all the naysayers.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Good morning/Afternoon fella’s!
Although it could be said for all teams, who knows how much better the Bronco’s defense is with a full off season and training camp.
Love the hire.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:25 am
http://www.farmersfield.com
January 25th, 2012 at 11:25 am
796. Who is Emmitt Thomas?
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Raider Nation-Station Thomas is a KC Hall of Famer leads the team with all time career picks (58) and worked with Dennis Allen in Atlanta 2002-2005. Current Secondary Coach at KC.
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This might actually be a good hire. KCs secondary under rated…
January 25th, 2012 at 11:25 am
What up miami
January 25th, 2012 at 11:28 am
The LA Rams would look great playing in farmersfield.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:31 am
All any of us in the Raider nation want is to WIN. Hope this all works out but remember even Gruden took 2 years of 8-8 b4 we started winning
January 25th, 2012 at 11:32 am
A couple years old, but here’s a write-up on Emmitt Thomas:
Emmitt Thomas was named the Falcons’ assistant head coach on January 24, 2008.
For the seventh straight season, the Falcons will heavily lean on the expertise of 28-year coaching veteran Emmitt Thomas. A highly-respected and universally-liked NFL “lifer”, Thomas’ added experience built from a stellar 13-year playing career as a defensive back will bode well for the entire Falcons defense again in 2008. Thomas will take on a new role in 2008, serving as assistant head coach to new head coach Mike
Smith.
Since his arrival to Atlanta in 2002, the Falcons rank in the top 10 among all NFL teams for total interceptions with 86.
In 2006, the Falcons were forced to be creative with personnel as cornerbacks battled through injuries during the season. CB DeAngelo Hall continued his high caliber play as the third-year defender posted four interceptions, while allowing less than half the passes thrown his way to be completed, on the way to his second consecutive Pro Bowl and first as a starter. Thomas also made an impact in the successful transition at the safety position as Lawyer Milloy and Chris Crocker joined the team during the offseason and lined up as starters during all 16 games.
In 2005 under Thomas’ guidance, the team’s passing defense finished 14th in the NFL and improved in key areas from the year before. The defense led the League by allowing an NFL-low 30.2% (58 of 192) of opponents third down conversions. The passing yards per game average and completion percentage were both down from 2004. The Falcons defense was also among the NFL leaders in preventing big pass plays, allowing only 28 passes of 20-plus yards to rank in the top three. The nickel and third down defensive packages were very stingy when opponents attempted to move the chains in 2005. When Atlanta’s defense forced its opponents into a third and long situation of 6-plus yards, the team only allowed 14 conversions out of 101 attempts (13.9%), which was the League’s best mark. Hall evolved into a Pro Bowler in just his second year with Thomas’ help.
The Falcons secondary accounted for three of the five defensive touchdowns scored with interception returns in 2004, which tied for the second-highest total of defensive touchdowns in team history. Hall came on strong after being injured in the first part of his rookie season, returning two interceptions for scores.
In 2002, Thomas’ first year guiding the Falcons defensive backs, the Falcons finished tied for third in the NFL with 24 interceptions Also, Atlanta’s pass defense improved from 30th in 2001 to 16th in 2002.
Thomas has been a winner in the NFL during his 42-year career as a player and coach. He has captured a total of three Super Bowl rings with two titles coming as an assistant coach and one as a player.
Prior to landing in Atlanta, Thomas served as the Defensive Coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings from 2000-2001. In his first season in Minnesota, Thomas helped the Vikings win the NFC Central crown and advance to the NFC Championship Game. Under his direction, Minnesota’s rushing defense finished sixth in the NFC in 2000.
Thomas’ extensive coaching career began at Central Missouri State University, where he coached the secondary from 1979-80, and his NFL coaching career started with the then St. Louis Cardinals in 1981. This product of Angleton, Texas, moved on to the Washington Redskins for nine seasons from 1986-94 as a Wide Receivers Coach and then as a Defensive Backs Coach. His time with the Redskins was marked with five trips to the playoffs, two NFC Championships and victories in Super Bowls XXII and XXVI.
Thomas joined the Philadelphia Eagles as a Defensive Coordinator for four seasons (1995-98) before taking a similar post with the Green Bay Packers (1999). The Eagles’ 1998 defense was ranked No. 1 against the pass and was third in the NFL in sack percentage. His 1996 unit finished fifth in the league overall and his 1995 defense was fourth overall in yards surrendered as the Eagles posted back-to-back 10-6 records and a pair of playoff berths.
Thomas was a standout defensive back for 13 years with the Kansas City Chiefs (1966-78). He played in 181 NFL games, including Super Bowls I and IV, and was selected to play in five Pro Bowls. Thomas finished his career with 58 interceptions, including one in Super Bowl IV against Minnesota, which is the ninth-most ever in NFL history and he led the League in interceptions twice in a single-season. He is a member of the Chiefs Hall of Fame and his name is etched on the stadium walls at Arrowhead Stadium. A quarterback and receiver at Bishop College in Dallas, he was converted to defensive back as an undrafted rookie free agent with the Chiefs.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Tired off messing with IBA’s server screwing up. Check in later but hope all my Raider brethren have a great day!~
Peace owt!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:34 am
RaiderWeaponX Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:25 am
796. Who is Emmitt Thomas?
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Raider Nation-Station Thomas is a KC Hall of Famer leads the team with all time career picks (58) and worked with Dennis Allen in Atlanta 2002-2005. Current Secondary Coach at KC.
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This might actually be a good hire. KCs secondary under rated…
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I like.
Bring on Emmit.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:35 am
806. Very nice Young American. Sounds like a darn good secondary guy and potential
January 25th, 2012 at 11:36 am
arj Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Didn’t Allen’s D just give up 45 points to the Pats? Is that overlooked because it was “against the Patriots”?
I am not excited about this hire. I’m not disappointed in Allen being the coach, I’m more disappointed in the fact that with ALL THE EXPERIENCE and CONTACTS McKenzie was supposed to bring to the Raiders, he hired a guy he has NO REPORTED TIES to. I don’t know if budget for HC was the reason, but I hope that McKenzie is not simply running on pride by not pulling anybody from Greenbay.
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Maybe the reason he didn’t bring in someone he has ties to is he thinks Dennis Allen is better. You know, I would MUCH rather have Allen then say Winston Moss. One of the big pluses I see here is not only do we get a little bit of what Green Bay was doing successfully, but now we also get a little bit of what made N.O. World Champs and John Fox a contender for a decade. That can’t be bad.
On another note, you bring up the fact that he gave up a 40spot to NE in the playoff game. Well, all Tom Brady heard about that week was how great Tim Teblow was. When you bring in a VERY motivated Brady, and then Teblow goes 9 for 30, guess what, you are going to get blown out.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:37 am
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:28 am
The LA Rams would look great playing in farmersfield.
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I think the best case scenario would be if Farmers Field is The Raiders second home. It will be a lot better than the crappy one we have in san diego. Sure we’re spoiled with 9 home games compared to every one else’s 8, but still Farmers Field would be the better trip.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:40 am
jraider Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I’m very excited for a hard-nosed Defensive minded coach to take charge and call slackers out – (McClain).
Hope the offensive staff stays largely intact so DAllen can clean house on the D side.
Singletary is an interesting suggestion for DC.
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No, no he is not.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Dennis Allen
Aaron Kromer
Emmitt Thomas
January 25th, 2012 at 11:40 am
#797, I would like to add something to that, but I think you guys basically nailed it. Here, I thought of something: Jamista Clown sucks aholes.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Allen
Saunders
Bowles or Thomas
January 25th, 2012 at 11:41 am
What’s good DMAC? Hope all is well out West!
Go RAIDERRSSSS!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:41 am
SAY NO TO SAUNDERS!! SAY NO TO SAUNDERS!!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Omg did some loser in hear suggest Singletary? Ya? Ok, did you see what the Niners did as soon as that fool was kicked the heck out? Omg some of you hear are flat clueless.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:44 am
YES TO SAUNDERS! YES TO SAUNDERS!
January 25th, 2012 at 11:44 am
HC – Dennis Allen
OC – Aaron Kromer
DC – Emmitt Thomas
DB/Asst HC – Todd Bowles
January 25th, 2012 at 11:44 am
I agree to say no to Saunders,…the deal was say Reggie was to let the head coach hire his staff,..let the kid Allen assemble his own friggin staff, let Reggie assemble the roster, thats how it should be, and thats how it will be.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:45 am
DMAC you are a loser.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:47 am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO in LA Times poll asking should the Oakland Raiders move to LA
January 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
He didnt call plays.
Our clock management was still horrible.
Im having a hard time seeing why he is so important.
Raider fans are good about going with myths, without actually thinking about the facts.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
ok ok ok lets stop all of this and get down to the real reason we are all here… to fk with kool kel !!!
lol lol lol
January 25th, 2012 at 11:52 am
If Mario Williams is available..
Man. I dont want to get my hopes up. Nevermind.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:53 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
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Al Saunders didn’t do any of that. What Al Saunders brings is extreme expertise in game planning. That’s why for the lst half of the season we were up big early in games. It was later in the season that we didn’t do quite so well, which coincidentally mirrored Hue Jackson’s 4th quarters.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
My favorite part about this hire is that Donkey fans are pissed off. McKenzie’s first move is one that hurts the enemy – gotta love the strategy in that
January 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
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Decades of experience in pro football. Experience as a designer of offenses including some very good ones. Proven track record as a play caller.
Basically anything and everything having to do with offense, something the new coach has no experience with. Kind of important stuff if you’d like to score points and win.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:53 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
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Al Saunders didn’t do any of that. What Al Saunders brings is extreme expertise in game planning. That’s why for the lst half of the season we were up big early in games. It was later in the season that we didn’t do quite so well, which coincidentally mirrored Hue Jackson’s 4th quarters.
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Understandable. But that’s not been the reasoning behind people calling for his “needed” return.
Offensive continuity has been the excuse. Thats bull.
So now you say gameplanning. Ok.
Still dont see that vital of a reason he needs to be brought back. We werent even that solid in our offensive gameplanning.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:53 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
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Al Saunders didn’t do any of that. What Al Saunders brings is extreme expertise in game planning. That’s why for the lst half of the season we were up big early in games. It was later in the season that we didn’t do quite so well, which coincidentally mirrored Hue Jackson’s 4th quarters.
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Absolutely. Had nothing to do with the defense falling apart in some big spots, being without our biggest offensive weapon after week 6, Bush wearing down, Ford & Moore missing a long stretch with injuries, and having to rely on a just-signed quarterback who admittedly knew 10% of the playbook when he first took over.
January 25th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
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Decades of experience in pro football. Experience as a designer of offenses including some very good ones. Proven track record as a play caller.
Basically anything and everything having to do with offense, something the new coach has no experience with. Kind of important stuff if you’d like to score points and win.
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Unless he is the only guy in the NFL with those attributes, im still not seeing a vital need for him to return.
We NEED whoever Dennis Allen wants.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I have no problem with Al Saunders staying in the organization as a concultant.
But we dont need him as OC.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
then who for DC?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
consultant*
January 25th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
jraider Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
then who for DC?
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Emmitt Thomas.
Joe Vitt.
Those are my 2 choices.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Deuce, shut up.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
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Decades of experience in pro football. Experience as a designer of offenses including some very good ones. Proven track record as a play caller.
Basically anything and everything having to do with offense, something the new coach has no experience with. Kind of important stuff if you’d like to score points and win.
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Unless he is the only guy in the NFL with those attributes, im still not seeing a vital need for him to return.
We NEED whoever Dennis Allen wants.
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Saying we “need whoever Dennis Allen wants” amounts to nothing more than blind faith in a guy, Dennis Allen, who we know next to nothing about. And the faith in Allen stems from blind faith in Reggie McKenzie. Another guy who we know next to nothing about.
I love the optimism and I don’t mean to rain on the fantasy that these guys are the golden ticket, but there’s really no basis for it.
There’s much more to base an opinion on Saunders than there is Allen or Reg McKenzie and their ability to find good coaches.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Seymour Bush Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:53 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
What does Saunders bring? Experience? Help with managing a game, play clock?
That didnt help with Hue. Why would it now?
He’s not that critical.
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Al Saunders didn’t do any of that. What Al Saunders brings is extreme expertise in game planning. That’s why for the lst half of the season we were up big early in games. It was later in the season that we didn’t do quite so well, which coincidentally mirrored Hue Jackson’s 4th quarters.
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Absolutely. Had nothing to do with the defense falling apart in some big spots, being without our biggest offensive weapon after week 6, Bush wearing down, Ford & Moore missing a long stretch with injuries, and having to rely on a just-signed quarterback who admittedly knew 10% of the playbook when he first took over.
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I would certainly interview saunders and would start by asking him
1) whose decision was it to line up in the shotgun formation 90% of the time when you were in the redzone -yours or Hue
2) who decison was it to throw bombs on 3rd and 3 in 2 games when all we needed was a first to win- yours or Hue
3) who decision was it to constantly throw lobs in the end zone to dhb(which is still one of dhb’s weaknesses although he improved alot) when denairus/chaz was standing on the other side- yours or Hue
If Al takes credit for any of the above have him sent to pasture like Chuck B
January 25th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
At the Senior Bowl, Oakland met with:
Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David, Washington defensive tackle Alameda Ta’amu, Appalachian State wide receiver Brian Quick, Marshall defensive end Vinny Curry, Arkansas defensive end Jake Bequette, Arizona wide receiver Juron Criner, Troy offensive tackle James Brown, South Carolina safety Antonio Allen and UAB offensive tackle Matt McCants
Ta’amu, Curry, and Bequette are all on the big board I’ve posted before. The Raiders showing interest in these guys is a sign that they plan on moving up in the draft, to at least the 2nd round.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Saunders is a stud!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
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Its not blind faith.
Its letting the guy hire who he wants.
The same way we let Reggie.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
The Raiders also met with:
Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead, Washington running back Chris Polk, Penn State defensive end Jack Crawford, Missouri tight end Michael Egnew and Connecticut defensive tackle Kendall Reyes
January 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
At the Senior Bowl, Oakland met with:
Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David, Washington defensive tackle Alameda Ta’amu, Appalachian State wide receiver Brian Quick, Marshall defensive end Vinny Curry, Arkansas defensive end Jake Bequette, Arizona wide receiver Juron Criner, Troy offensive tackle James Brown, South Carolina safety Antonio Allen and UAB offensive tackle Matt McCants
Ta’amu, Curry, and Bequette are all on the big board I’ve posted before. The Raiders showing interest in these guys is a sign that they plan on moving up in the draft, to at least the 2nd round.
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Good lord. Watch this imbecile trade McFadden and Palmer next.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
If Jack Del Rio had his choice between dungver and Oakland…
Make it happen guys. I read that the LB coach in dungver will probably take over for Allen, Smith? He worked under Fox in Carolina as well.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Raiders talking with late first early second round potential draft picks; means someone is getting traded.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
I dont think people understand the concept of building a winning organization.
WE WANT TO WIN FOR YEARS TO COME, NOT JUST NEXT YEAR.
Theres a big picture.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Appalachian State wide receiver Brian Quick
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Al Davis would pick this guy in a heartbeat!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
825.DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
He didnt call plays.
Our clock management was still horrible.
Im having a hard time seeing why he is so important.
Raider fans are good about going with myths, without actually thinking about the facts.
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Its because Hue haters say that everything GOOD about our offense was because of Al Saunders, and everything BAD about our offense was Hue
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Caught a few Nebraska’s games this season. Liked what i saw from David.
Maybe a bit undersized for LB though.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Not mad at Hue, but the dude is GONE!
Time to fk’n move on!
New era!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
It’s been a long time since the Raiders have had their GM at the Senior Bowl
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Raiders talking with late first early second round potential draft picks; means someone is getting traded.
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Not necessarily. Mike Bush was a bona fide lst round talent that fell to the 4th. And just because we don’t draft a guy on draft day doesn’t mean one day he doesn’t wear silver and black (See Curry, Aaron).
January 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Chris in Ny your objective analysis of the current situation is refreshing. Let’s just hope the hype beasts on this blog are right. We all want the Raiders to win in the end.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If the Raiders get Ta’amu, they’ll finally have a run-stuffing gap-plugger in the middle of the defensive line. He will give the Raiders enough scheme versatility to run 4-3 and 3-4 sets.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If the Raiders get Ta’amu, they’ll finally have a run-stuffing gap-plugger in the middle of the defensive line. He will give the Raiders enough scheme versatility to run 4-3 and 3-4 sets.
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Great insight.
And thats what we need to do. Be able to run both.
Im also starting to see a small beam of hope in your “Mario Williams” possibility..
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If the Raiders get Ta’amu, they’ll finally have a run-stuffing gap-plugger in the middle of the defensive line. He will give the Raiders enough scheme versatility to run 4-3 and 3-4 sets.
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Great insight.
And thats what we need to do. Be able to run both.
Im also starting to see a small beam of hope in your “Mario Williams” possibility..
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I think there’s more of a chance of landing Avril. Super Mario is going to get cashed the fk out.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html Keep Raiders in Oakland! Vote NO!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Its because Hue haters say that everything GOOD about our offense was because of Al Saunders, and everything BAD about our offense was Hue
………
And remember when Cable won a few games, they were saying it was only thanks to Hue. Establishment Raider fans are in interesting bunch.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Would much rather have Mario Williams than Carl Nicks, but I do expect Houston to frnachise tag him;
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Oh…and when Kiffin’s offense started to improve, they credited Cable! You can’t make this up!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Does anyone think R Mac is still gonna be here next year? We better look to find a replacement for him. Blastin a gun off in homies ear is not something we should over look. Come on.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If the Raiders get Ta’amu, they’ll finally have a run-stuffing gap-plugger in the middle of the defensive line. He will give the Raiders enough scheme versatility to run 4-3 and 3-4 sets.
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Great insight.
And thats what we need to do. Be able to run both.
Im also starting to see a small beam of hope in your “Mario Williams” possibility..
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We DO run both already. And we run the Old 46 as well as other defenses. Every team does. Bellichik was commenting a week or so ago on the fact that 3/4 or 4/3 really doesn’t matter that much anymore. Go back and look at the tape and you will see.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If the Raiders get Ta’amu, they’ll finally have a run-stuffing gap-plugger in the middle of the defensive line. He will give the Raiders enough scheme versatility to run 4-3 and 3-4 sets.
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Great insight.
And thats what we need to do. Be able to run both.
Im also starting to see a small beam of hope in your “Mario Williams” possibility..
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Yep. There are no guarantees Williams will be available, obviously. If anyone is worth the franchise tag, he is. But will the Texans be willing to pay that much when Barwin and Reed have been playing so well? We’ll see. Worth keeping an eye on the situation, for sure.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Raiders are moving to Spokane, Washington in 2013.
Take it to the bank!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
So, Kiffin’s offense starts to improve.
Davis loyalists: “It’s all Cable”
Cable wins a few games in ‘10.
Davis loyalists: “It’s all Hue Jackson”
Hue Jackson wins a few games as HC.
Davis loyalists: “It’s all Al Saunders”
January 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I like these players for Raiders. Taamu will be gone by the time the Raiders pick in late 3rd Round.
Marshall defensive end Vinny Curry, Arkansas defensive end Jake Bequette, Troy offensive tackle James Brown, South Carolina safety Antonio Allen
January 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Saunders is a long-respected OC. Nothing wrong with keeping him on. I’d also like to see Wylie and Classic Wiz stay on (if Wiz has learned enough to take over the OL full-time, we can slide Wylie over to TE coach).
If the O-staff IS let go, it’s because Reggie and Allen want to start over with a 100% clean slate on the coaching side (in other words, new EVERYTHING), which given the organizational rot that Al left behind, might not be a bad idea either.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
That old Davis loyalist faction does everything they can to discredit the current HC. The more credit an HC gets for success, the more of a threat he is to the old guard.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Thec
If you get a chance, check out our new slap I just uploaded to youtube. Its called “packin”
Its dope!
++++++++++
Send The Link…..
January 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Not mad at Hue, but the dude is GONE!
Time to fk’n move on!
New era!
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Don’t tell us what to talk about. Ever.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
People who don’t want you to talk about something ALWAYS have an agenda.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
First thing Dennis Allen did after agreeing to become HC :
text Matt Giordano and ask him if he’s willing to become Starting Safety/Defensive Coordinator.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
We DO run both already. And we run the Old 46 as well as other defenses. Every team does. Bellichik was commenting a week or so ago on the fact that 3/4 or 4/3 really doesn’t matter that much anymore. Go back and look at the tape and you will see.
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The Raiders actually didn’t show that many 3-4 looks last season. They mainly went to a three-man line when they started showing their “prevent” looks.
They simply don’t have an interior lineman who is strong enough at the point of attack to anchor a true 3-4 defense. Nor do they have a player who truly excels at stuffing the run. Ta’amu would give them that, and thus they would be able to show a far greater variety of defensive looks than they’re currently able to.
But yes, the ideal situation would be to have a defense like the 49ers or Ravens, who have a roster that allows them to be very versatile defensively.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
That old Davis loyalist faction does everything they can to discredit the current HC. The more credit an HC gets for success, the more of a threat he is to the old guard.
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You flip flop back and forth every day, just for attention, you POS. You actually think anyone but you and your 30 different names care?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Does anyone think R Mac is still gonna be here next year? We better look to find a replacement for him. Blastin a gun off in homies ear is not something we should over look. Come on.
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mcClain has been terrible. He has probably been a C- player since he came in the league overall. That being said, he is miscast as a 4-3 MLB. Most of the time you want a smaller, faster guy ala Jon Vilma in N.O. or if you remember Zack Thomas who played for Miami and Dallas. Zack went 5′10″, 225 and was a pro bowl player. Vilma is not much bigger. We have a 6′3″ 255 guy who is slower than Jamista Clown’s government cheese packed brain. Is he miscast? Probably. Can he improve. I say one more year to find out, or switch to an odd front base and find out.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Does anyone think R McClain is still gonna be here next year? We better look to find a replacement for him. Blastin a gun off in homies ear is not something we should over look. Come on.
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If he stays out of the Crossbar Hotel (which is not a given), I can see Allen giving him one and ONLY one more chance. After that, it’s Waiver City.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Did you have to google what “Old Guard” meant?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Its because Hue haters say that everything GOOD about our offense was because of Al Saunders, and everything BAD about our offense was Hue
………
And remember when Cable won a few games, they were saying it was only thanks to Hue. Establishment Raider fans are in interesting bunch.
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The difference is that Cable had almost two full seasons as HC/playcaller before Hue arrived and we were 31st in the league in scoring after that second year, not to mention Cable had a horrendous head coaching record in his background already.
Then Hue comes on board and we’re top 6 in scoring in one season. The Cable apologists will credit jettisoning the anchor that was JaMarcus as the reason for that improvement. But, seriously, how many offensive coordinators would squeeze a top-6 offense out of a Jason Campbell/Grads tagteam effort?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
He’s talking to prospective players because that’s his job–top familiarize himself with the talent.
That might come in handy for this year’s draft or for trades down the line.
It means nothing at this point.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Raiders are moving to Spokane, Washington in 2013.
Take it to the bank!
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Oh sure. Because of that new stadium they just finished.
What was the name of it again?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
793.RaiderWeaponX Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Tarfur says Emmitt Thomas a consideration for our new DC…
^^^^^^^
That wouldn’t be bad choice as DC under Allen. He has years of experience and improved the play of KC’s secondary this year.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
we need to get on with the rest of the coaching staff and start evaluating players…
1. fire bres
2. Fix the D
3. Fix the trench
4. get rid of the check cashers, and other non performing assets.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
It seems as if its your latest catch phrase. You need catch phrases. When you get to be your age, have no point to make, catch phrases sometimes can deflect, but it doesnt work with everyone. Sad old guy still here, years later, treading water. Sad.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
878
I would be ok giving him a chance to see if he can live up to his hype, but we better have a plan B. He is getting charged in Alabama for f*ck sake. How you think that could work out?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Amy? do you know the difference between hear and here?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Luvmarvhub Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
He’s talking to prospective players because that’s his job–top familiarize himself with the talent.
That might come in handy for this year’s draft or for trades down the line.
It means nothing at this point.
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I have no doubt that Reggie and Allen already know the players they want to keep, and they players they’d let go for the right price. Also, we’ll have at least one compensatory pick at the end of Round 3, and there’s always at least one or two highly-ranked guys that slide down that far.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
MR, how many years are you going to be able to do this? Year one, understandable,..year two, weird, year three, disturbing, year four, scary, year five, sad. Go out on a date, with a woman, and DO NOT tell her of this secret life of yours. Best of luck.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Not mad at Hue, but the dude is GONE!
Time to fk’n move on!
New era!
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Don’t tell us what to talk about. Ever.
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You still mad that no one is going to your weak azz web page?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcClain has been terrible. He has probably been a C- player since he came in the league overall. That being said, he is miscast as a 4-3 MLB.
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the guy is not mike material…He is playing out of position….He is non hitting ilb….
We stay strickly 4-3, I want us to go get a mike….
Move him to will
January 25th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Amy? You admitted above you are posting under a different name, and yet you comment to MR doing the same thing?
Pot, meet kettle.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
793.RaiderWeaponX Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Tarfur says Emmitt Thomas a consideration for our new DC…
^^^^^^^
That wouldn’t be bad choice as DC under Allen. He has years of experience and improved the play of KC’s secondary this year.
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Since Allen will undoubtedly be calling the defense in Year 1, you don’t really need defensive expert at DC, but you will want a coordinator who’s a good teacher, especially with regards to our crappy tackling. Thomas could fit that bill.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Hi Bob!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
MR
Stop talking to yourself
January 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
MR, how many years are you going to be able to do this? Year one, understandable,..year two, weird, year three, disturbing, year four, scary, year five, sad. Go out on a date, with a woman, and DO NOT tell her of this secret life of yours. Best of luck.
+++++++
This post reminds me of the great one…I see ya now…
Good to see you post…
January 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Show me where I said I was posting under a different name,..you cannot, because I havent.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Not mad at Hue, but the dude is GONE!
Time to fk’n move on!
New era!
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Don’t tell us what to talk about. Ever.
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You still mad that no one is going to your weak azz web page?
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Just annoyed at people who are losing an argument who all of a sudden are telling everyone to stop talking about it, as if anyone cares. BHP did that nonstop, because his heroes were being blasted. Couldn’t cope. Just like you.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
… 4. get rid of the check cashers, and other non performing assets.
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How is eliminating the Accounts Receivable Dept. going to improve the team? In any event, Chubby Checker better first make sure the outsourcing of that function would be more a cost-effective approach than keeping it in-house.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcClain has been terrible. He has probably been a C- player since he came in the league overall. That being said, he is miscast as a 4-3 MLB.
++++++++++++
the guy is not mike material…He is playing out of position….He is non hitting ilb….
We stay strickly 4-3, I want us to go get a mike….
Move him to will
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I just watched the backers in both playoff games lay the wood on the opposition. I ain’t never seen Mc hit anyone half as hard EVER!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Its because Hue haters say that everything GOOD about our offense was because of Al Saunders, and everything BAD about our offense was Hue
………
And remember when Cable won a few games, they were saying it was only thanks to Hue. Establishment Raider fans are in interesting bunch.
———————————
The difference is that Cable had almost two full seasons as HC/playcaller before Hue arrived and we were 31st in the league in scoring after that second year, not to mention Cable had a horrendous head coaching record in his background already.
Then Hue comes on board and we’re top 6 in scoring in one season. The Cable apologists will credit jettisoning the anchor that was JaMarcus as the reason for that improvement. But, seriously, how many offensive coordinators would squeeze a top-6 offense out of a Jason Campbell/Grads tagteam effort?
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Did you actually watch Jamarcus Russell play? Did you see the way the TEAM played behind Russell? To give that credit all to Jackson is a little misdirected. The team wanted to win and wanted Russell out of there, there is NO ARGUING that point. Was Jackson the recipient of that? Probably. I have always felt Cable was a MUCH MUCH better coach than Jackson. And to my point, NFL people know who is good and who isn’t in the leauge. Within days of Cable getting the axe, Pete Carrol picked him up and put him on his offensive staff. Same can’t be true of Jackson.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
The C,…I have given you a new name,..you are now,..The Ladies Man,..Iv seen you operate…maybe it was my liquor.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
How is eliminating the Accounts Receivable Dept. going to improve the team? In any event, Chubby Checker better first make sure the outsourcing of that function would be more a cost-effective approach than keeping it in-house.
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hahahahahahaha….I need to be careful…lol
January 25th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Not mad at Hue, but the dude is GONE!
Time to fk’n move on!
New era!
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Don’t tell us what to talk about. Ever.
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You still mad that no one is going to your weak azz web page?
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Just annoyed at people who are losing an argument who all of a sudden are telling everyone to stop talking about it, as if anyone cares. BHP did that nonstop, because his heroes were being blasted. Couldn’t cope. Just like you.
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If you miss Hue so much, why don’t you meet him at the nail shop and talk football? I’m sure he has all the time in the world for you.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Bob, remember when you said you were going to pay off an IBA employee, get my address, and kill me? What happened with that? Haven’t seen you since.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
COMEDY CENTRAL..
January 25th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
I just watched the backers in both playoff games lay the wood on the opposition. I ain’t never seen Mc hit anyone half as hard EVER!
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Oh come on! How’s about the hit he put on 5′4″ 135 pound Darren Sproales? It’s just any back that goes 225 or more, somehow Rolando is out of position, trailing the play yelling, “get him….”
January 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
MR, neither me, nor anyone, is looking for you. Sorry man.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I just watched the backers in both playoff games lay the wood on the opposition. I ain’t never seen Mc hit anyone half as hard EVER!
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thats my point…He should be beastin 99% of the time, we get a throw hear but never a smashmouth raider of old type of hit….
January 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I wouldn’t be shocked if Chubby Checker trades McFadden and Palmer for some middling draft picks.
Also wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up trading Lechler and/or Seabass. Could decide it’s better to go with a couple of schlubs in the kicking game and apply the savings to another position or to Mark Davis’ bank account.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Show me where I said I was posting under a different name,..you cannot, because I havent.
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LIAR!
Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:07 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Wattup TheC?
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Whats good Amy? Do I know you????
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AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Yes ya do The C! Hows it goin bro?
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Thec Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:06 am
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Its not Thec,..its The C!!!
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Hello…Question, how in the hell do you know that?
Who are you?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
And to my point, NFL people know who is good and who isn’t in the leauge. Within days of Cable getting the axe, Pete Carroll picked him up and put him on his offensive staff. Same can’t be true of Jackson.
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Some of that is A) The season-ending presser Jackson gave, and B) That Mike Silver hit piece that Hue was undoubtedly the source for.
If you were hiring for your staff, would you want someone like that?
If nothing else, Cable never shot his mouth off publicly.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
AH, I see. A new improved, easy going Bob. We’ll see how long it lasts, before you flip out and start making death threats again. lol.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I dont seek out dudes in Sac who are your age living with their moms,…and I dont need to look for you, you are here if I ever need you. Even ten years from now.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
The C,…I have given you a new name,..you are now,..The Ladies Man,..Iv seen you operate…maybe it was my liquor.
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You know you got me twisted, you can be 1 of 4 possible people… however, its good to have you posting.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I wouldn’t be shocked if Chubby Checker trades McFadden and Palmer for some middling draft picks.
Also wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up trading Lechler and/or Seabass. Could decide it’s better to go with a couple of schlubs in the kicking game and apply the savings to another position or to Mark Davis’ bank account.
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Why don’t you go root for another team if you hate it here so much? Reggie’s turning around this team, and you’re upset that he hasn’t built the New England Patriots in 20 days.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
McKenzie says he wants “his guy”, then he hires someone he has no connections with whatsoever. The only good thing about this is that Allen is a defensive minded coach. So whoever’s pulling the strings, they’re at least a little smarter than Al Davis.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Lol all ya like old buddy, but Im only here during this new head coaching time, then away I go, to the real world, something you should try. By the way Im in Kaanapali, more to life them moms house in Sac.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
lol. OK, bob. Like the new and improved personality. We’ll see if it holds up. Anyone who flips out and makes death threats once…
January 25th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Even from his grave, old Al still owns the walking dead. Awesome.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
902.AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
The C,…I have given you a new name,..you are now,..The Ladies Man,..Iv seen you operate…maybe it was my liquor.
Yup, Amy knows you, Thec…
January 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Cool, Bob. Always liked it when you made up stories about places you were visiting, celebs you were hanging out with, etc. That personality is funny. You were a little creepy when you flipped out that night.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
The C,..you know me and my boy Brien will always have the tailgate waiting for you,..you da man.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Al can own whatever he wants, he doesn’t own the Raiders anymore. That’s fine by me.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
McKenzie says he wants “his guy”, then he hires someone he has no connections with whatsoever. The only good thing about this is that Allen is a defensive minded coach. So whoever’s pulling the strings, they’re at least a little smarter than Al Davis.
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Reggie McKenzie’s the guy pulling the strings. And after hearing you whine and moan about what a lousy hire Moss would’ve been, all of a sudden you’re mad that he WASN’T hired?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Youre getting nowhere MR,..but keep trying. Maybe that old fool with no real job pretending to have one will be here soon to bail you out…geez more sadness.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
918.AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Lol all ya like old buddy, but Im only here during this new head coaching time, then away I go, to the real world, something you should try. By the way Im in Kaanapali, more to life them moms house in Sac.
At the beach bar?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am
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Hypothetically, if Al were alive, would John Fox recommend Allen take the job, if he asked Fox for his advice?
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A big FAT NO. Nobody who had any leverage or potential wanted to do anything with Al Davis. Huebris was only here because this was the only place that gave him a chance at being the HC. Sean Payton, Ken Wisenhunt, and Sarkisian were some of the folks that said no thanks to us. Even Rex Ryan said no thanks to us.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Al owns you, clearly. Just try and not mention him anymore,..you and I both know you wont be able to.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Anyone find it odd, that as much as Bob and Brien talk about hanging out with each other, we’ve never seen so much as one pic? Everyone takes pictures these days, for facebook, etc. Is there a pic in existence of Bob and Brien?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
The C,..you know me and my boy Brien will always have the tailgate waiting for you,..you da man.
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Not me you Bruh you…
I have the UTMOST respect for ya…
Look forward to tailgating it with you next year….
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Kromer & E. Thomas.
Let’s get it done Dennis.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Hey Hwn, nice to meet you last year,..Im at the Cave Bar,…Hyatt.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
By the way Im in Kaanapali, more to life them moms house in Sac.
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Sure you are, Lol.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Its because Hue haters say that everything GOOD about our offense was because of Al Saunders, and everything BAD about our offense was Hue
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And remember when Cable won a few games, they were saying it was only thanks to Hue. Establishment Raider fans are in interesting bunch.
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The difference is that Cable had almost two full seasons as HC/playcaller before Hue arrived and we were 31st in the league in scoring after that second year, not to mention Cable had a horrendous head coaching record in his background already.
Then Hue comes on board and we’re top 6 in scoring in one season. The Cable apologists will credit jettisoning the anchor that was JaMarcus as the reason for that improvement. But, seriously, how many offensive coordinators would squeeze a top-6 offense out of a Jason Campbell/Grads tagteam effort?
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Did you actually watch Jamarcus Russell play? Did you see the way the TEAM played behind Russell? To give that credit all to Jackson is a little misdirected. The team wanted to win and wanted Russell out of there, there is NO ARGUING that point. Was Jackson the recipient of that? Probably. I have always felt Cable was a MUCH MUCH better coach than Jackson. And to my point, NFL people know who is good and who isn’t in the leauge. Within days of Cable getting the axe, Pete Carrol picked him up and put him on his offensive staff. Same can’t be true of Jackson.
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We’ll see. Cable was hired as an o-line coach. Don’t recall if it was “within days” but that’s irrelevant. Hue was just fired a couple of weeks ago and was quickly a finalist for St. Louis’ OC position under Jeff Fisher after they had already leaked Schottenheimer’s hiring.
If Cam Cameron is out in Baltimore, as expected, and/or Pagano lands the HC job in Indy, we could very well see Hue as an OC next season for one of those two teams.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Al can own me, that’s fine. As long as he doesn’t own the Raiders anymore, I’m happy!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I gotta scam meeting to get to however, day after we get a new HC the great comes in and post…Classic…
1 NATION
January 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Kell, notice we’ve never seen a picture of Bob and Brien, for as much as they talk about hanging out? Who doesn’t take pictures these days?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
The C,..we will do it again in August,..A lot,..you know it!…gotta roll bro,..if Im not around here til some news hits, cya next season,..bring that soda can, I will add something to it!!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
933.AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Hey Hwn, nice to meet you last year,..Im at the Cave Bar,…Hyatt.
NICE!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Bye Bob! Have fun at whatever imaginary vacation destination you’re at today! Give “Brien” a call.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
MR,..good luck to you, youre a sad old fool whos hoggin the desktop computer from your mom all day long, if I need to find you, I know where,..here!…Al`s prisoner…good luck with that,..cya The C!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
New era!
853.KoolKell Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
It’s been a long time since the Raiders have had their GM at the Senior Bowl
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WTF are you talking about. Until Al Davis became immoble, he attended the Senior Bowl workouts, timer in hand with the overhead projector in his hotel room.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Bob, nothing sad about you. Going on a blog and making up stories about being in exotic locations is perfectly normal. All the best!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
ok i am confused…..amy=bob and MR=sullivan ???
hey whats up hwnrdr ? how ya feeling today?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Cool, Bob. Always liked it when you made up stories about places you were visiting, celebs you were hanging out with, etc. That personality is funny. You were a little creepy when you flipped out that night.
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I was always partial to you having lengthy convo’s with yourself, while pretending to live in remote places, while you googled the town and posted the local bars at the top of the list.
Fun stuff.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
893.RaiderDuck Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
793.RaiderWeaponX Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Tarfur says Emmitt Thomas a consideration for our new DC…
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That wouldn’t be bad choice as DC under Allen. He has years of experience and improved the play of KC’s secondary this year.
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Since Allen will undoubtedly be calling the defense in Year 1, you don’t really need defensive expert at DC, but you will want a coordinator who’s a good teacher, especially with regards to our crappy tackling. Thomas could fit that bill.
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I would prefer Ravens LB coach Dean Pees personally. I think he would be a better teacher and fit here. Has worked with great D players in BMore and ran a solid D when he was with the Pats.
Then again, it’s all about who Allen has worked with before and previous relationships and who you know and who you are familiar with and all that jazz.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
New era!
853.KoolKell Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
It’s been a long time since the Raiders have had their GM at the Senior Bowl
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WTF are you talking about. Until Al Davis became immoble, he attended the Senior Bowl workouts, timer in hand with the overhead projector in his hotel room.
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More revisionist history from the delusional faction of the fanbase that believes replacing Al Davis and everything he stood for with Chubby Checker guarantees us 5 Super Bowl titles in the next 4 seasons.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
WTF are you talking about. Until Al Davis became immoble, he attended the Senior Bowl workouts, timer in hand with the overhead projector in his hotel room.
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WTF are YOU talking about. That’s been a long time ago.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Oh you know, same ol, same ol…what’s up with you?
945.R8ER MIKE Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
ok i am confused…..amy=bob and MR=sullivan ???
hey whats up hwnrdr ? how ya feeling today?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
He also had his Bell and Howell 8mm projector that John Herrera treaded.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
We need to address the 4 levels with a key FA.
OL, DL, LB, DB.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
920.AmysInCharge Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Even from his grave, old Al still owns the walking dead. Awesome.
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Al can own me, that’s fine. As long as he doesn’t own the Raiders anymore, I’m happy!
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LMAO! This place is a riot!
January 25th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Kell, notice we’ve never seen a picture of Bob and Brien, for as much as they talk about hanging out? Who doesn’t take pictures these days?
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Brien posted a pic of both him and Bob at a game.
You saw it.
You commented on it.
You take drugs, MR?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
So, a young man walks into a bar with his wife Allison.
Bartender – “What’ll you have?”
Allison – “Give us two top shelf margaritas. My husband and I are celebrating his new job.”
B (to the husband) – “What’s the new job?”
Husband – “I am the new head coach of the Oakland Raiders.”
B – “Well, you ceratinly have your work cut out for you to deal with all the knuckleheads.”
H – “Knuckleheads? You mean because of all the penalties?”
B – “Oh I didn’t mean the players. They’ll be fine. I’m talking about all the knuckleheads that visit the Raiders blog.”
January 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Should take a look at finnegan and keep rod around especially if we get bowles as a DC
January 25th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
932.DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Kromer & E. Thomas.
Let’s get it done Dennis.
^^^^^^^
I would like to see Kromer as the OLine/Assistant Head Coach.
Not to confident he is ready to call intricate passing plays full time at this stage of his career.
More comfortable keeping a vet like Saunders around to call plays. Saunders needs to shorten and edit his playbook though. He is known to have a long azz unecessary playbook.
Hope he keeps the same offensive terminilogy they used last year to maintain that offensive continuity and familiarity.
I don’t want the offense to start all over. It is not needed.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Should take a look at finnegan and keep rod around especially if we get bowles as a DC
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Dont really care if Rod is back. Especially if we get Bowles as DB coach.
I like Finnegan.
January 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Maybe now we won’t have a late season letdown while our HC is at the nail salon.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
So, a young man walks into a bar with his wife Allison.
Bartender – “What’ll you have?”
Allison – “Give us two top shelf margaritas. My husband and I are celebrating his new job.”
B (to the husband) – “What’s the new job?”
Husband – “I am the new head coach of the Oakland Raiders.”
B – “Well, you ceratinly have your work cut out for you to deal with all the knuckleheads.”
H – “Knuckleheads? You mean because of all the penalties?”
B – “Oh I didn’t mean the players. They’ll be fine. I’m talking about all the knuckleheads that visit the Raiders blog.”
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Wow.
Sad.
Beyond sad.
Pathetic.
I feel bad for you.
Seriously, that was juvenile.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I would love to see Cortland Finnegan on this Raider team.
He brings intensity and attitude and he isn’t afraid to hit and tackle!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
If Cam Cameron is out in Baltimore, as expected, and/or Pagano lands the HC job in Indy, we could very well see Hue as an OC next season for one of those two teams.
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Cable got an asst HC gig in Sea. Huebris got a QB coach position in AZ. Enough said.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
More revisionist history from the delusional faction of the fanbase that believes replacing Al Davis and everything he stood for with Chubby Checker guarantees us 5 Super Bowl titles in the next 4 seasons.
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More revisionist history from someone who thinks “Al’s Way” had any level of success after Reagan’s first term. Gruden years aside, it’s been a two-decades-long slog through mediocrity. More of “Al’s Way” is not what we need.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Maybe now we won’t have a late season letdown while our HC is at the nail salon.
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Obviously.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
More revisionist history from the delusional faction of the fanbase that believes replacing Al Davis and everything he stood for with Chubby Checker guarantees us 5 Super Bowl titles in the next 4 seasons.
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Can I get your address? I’d like to send a box of Kleenex to wipe those Huebris tears.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
post 963
Amen.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Maybe now we won’t have a late season letdown while our HC is at the nail salon.
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Obviously.
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Palmer should have gone there to flag him down rather than waiting in his office.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Reading through some of the last posts. LMAO We have some comedians in here and that makes for good entertainment. Better than the politics and racism!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Coming down the stretch to another 1000 posts…
January 25th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Coming down the stretch to another 1000 posts…
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Race you there
January 25th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Ready
set
January 25th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Go!!!!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Ready
set
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Obviously.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
First one to 1000 gets an autographed Gio pic.
U want in Deuce?
January 25th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
First one to 1000 gets an autographed Gio pic.
U want in Deuce?
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January 25th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
These guys opinions echo those of some in here.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82650e3f/article/instant-debate-is-dennis-allen-the-right-man-for-oakland?module=HP11_cp
January 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
When did Hue get the Arizona job. I thought he just interviewed for the QB Coach job there.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote No in LA Times Poll to help keep the Raiders in Oakland!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
http://siriusxmsports.posterous.com/john-madden-host-of-madden-football-on-sirius-69500
Madden likes the Allen hire as well.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
974.DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
First one to 1000 gets an autographed Gio pic.
U want in Deuce?
LOL…
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Cfrylopez Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote No in LA Times Poll to help keep the Raiders in Oakland!
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I personally like pan-frying all varieties of Spam, but will probably try grilling it sooner or later.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Pagano to the Colts
January 25th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Our coach said there were some similarities between Taiwan Jones and DMAC. If I were Allen, I would call T.J and encourage him to bulk up and be ready, in order for us to possibly trade DMAC for draft picks.I love what Darren has done but he is Bynum reliable and that isn’t anything us fans should have to worry about all year. Re-sign Bush or get Lynch and we can be set in our backfield.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
nwr8r Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Pagano to the Colts
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Obviously
January 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
come on guys lets get this thing going… i wand the pic for gio
January 25th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
When did Hue get the Arizona job. I thought he just interviewed for the QB Coach job there.
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I thought I read that he got the job. Maybe Ken Wisenhunt doesnt want the knife in the back yet.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
*want
January 25th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Pagano to the colts
January 25th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Another former Raiders assistant got a HC gig..
January 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Will be interesting to keep an eye on next year. There’s quite a bit of similarities between Pagano and Allen in NFL coaching experience.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
990
January 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
nwr8r Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Will be interesting to keep an eye on next year. There’s quite a bit of similarities between Pagano and Allen in NFL coaching experience.
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Except Pagano looks better because he had better talent to work with.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Hue probably the favorite to land in Indy as OC.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Hwnrdr
You those 4 wheels back on the road?
January 25th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
*get
January 25th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
994.DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Hwnrdr
You those 4 wheels back on the road?
Yup…a cool grand later…
January 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
979.RaiderDuck Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
http://siriusxmsports.posterous.com/john-madden-host-of-madden-football-on-sirius-69500
Madden likes the Allen hire as well.
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Thanks for the link, RaiderDuck.
“You’re a head coach. Become a head coach and act like one.”
Hmmm.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
nwr8r Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Will be interesting to keep an eye on next year. There’s quite a bit of similarities between Pagano and Allen in NFL coaching experience.
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Except Pagano looks better because he had better talent to work with.
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True, with the Ravens he did. He also did pretty well as DB coach at his other stops with less talent though.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Did I win?..
January 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Good advice!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@VittorioTafur
Eliot Wolf is moving up and taking McKenzie’s old job with Packers
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Interesting.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Now?..
January 25th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Did I win?..
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You didn’t want it enough.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Alright, an autographed pic of Gio…LOL
January 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Did I win?..
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You didn’t want it enough.
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How fitting…
I didnt “try hard enough” to win something with Giordano on it.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Pagano to Colts as HC.
Good hire by Colts.
Pagano should have been interviewed here, but he knows how the Davis’ are cheap with paying head coaches.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Alright, an autographed pic of Gio…LOL
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Or do you want the fan favorite?
Blackstock?
January 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Brien posted a pic of both him and Bob at a game.
You saw it.
You commented on it.
You take drugs, MR?
…………
When? Around what date? I’ll look for it right now.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
1007.DMAC Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Alright, an autographed pic of Gio…LOL
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Or do you want the fan favorite?
Blackstock?
OUCH! LOL
January 25th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
On an earlier post I questioned why Cheese never interviewed Chuck Pagano for the Head Coaching job, then I read Pagano’s comments about the Raiders. Still not 100% sold on Allen but I was completely wrong about Pagano, he’s a tool. Since its pretty obvious that I don’t know what I’m talking about when it comes to coaching hires, I’ll just shut my cake hole from here on out and hope for the best.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
gotta wait till 1500 for the fan fav pic !!!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I’ll take the defensive minded coach. First defensive coach since Madden to be hired as Raiders’ HC. Already some change. But the timeline reeks of Mark pulling McKenzie’s strings. Reggie comes in, says he wants his guy, then hires someone he has no prior connections with? The fugg outta here.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I’ll take the defensive minded coach. First defensive coach since Madden to be hired as Raiders’ HC. Already some change. But the timeline reeks of Mark pulling McKenzie’s strings. Reggie comes in, says he wants his guy, then hires someone he has no prior connections with? The fugg outta here.
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“His Guy” was more in the context of, someone HE hires. Not someone inherited.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Not that it is worth much, but Russilo and that Coachmen dude, were talking Raiders, and they both seemed to think it was a given that McKenzie would just ditch Carson and start over.
I don’t see that happening though. I think he gets 2012 to prove he is still a franchise QB, and if he proves otherwise, than the ditching will begin.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Not that it is worth much, but Russilo and that Coachmen dude, were talking Raiders, and they both seemed to think it was a given that McKenzie would just ditch Carson and start over.
I don’t see that happening though. I think he gets 2012 to prove he is still a franchise QB, and if he proves otherwise, than the ditching will begin.
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I think he proved that already.
His trade value cant go any higher, but it can go lower.
So moving him now would make the most sense, if thats what they want to do.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Is Carson still owed 12 million this year? lol That amount needs to be adjusted and re worked with some incentives if he performs well next season.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Is Carson still owed 12 million this year? lol That amount needs to be adjusted and re worked with some incentives if he performs well next season.
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Yep.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Does anyone actually think that Mark Davis could even stay sober for some of these 4 hour coaches interviews?
After about an hour, he would let Reggie take care of it, and hit it happy hour.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
When did Hue get the Arizona job. I thought he just interviewed for the QB Coach job there.
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Come on, Method will have the Az QB coach job before Jackson will.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
““His Guy” was more in the context of, someone HE hires. Not someone inherited.”
Why is that so hard for people to comprehend!
I get it if you are a word twisting troll and you are determined to make a guy look bad but most of us who speak English understand what he meant…..he wants to hire his own guy not work with people someone else hired DUH!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I will have to check with Bcz24 on this, but I thought you could only restructure each contract once.
Carson restructured last year, and I don’t think he could restructure again.
He could rip up the contract and sign a new one, but players will only do that if there is more guaranteed money in the new contract.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Not that it is worth much, but Russilo and that Coachmen dude, were talking Raiders, and they both seemed to think it was a given that McKenzie would just ditch Carson and start over.
I don’t see that happening though. I think he gets 2012 to prove he is still a franchise QB, and if he proves otherwise, than the ditching will begin.
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I think he proved that already.
His trade value cant go any higher, but it can go lower.
So moving him now would make the most sense, if thats what they want to do.
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Would be a complete disaster. QBs of Palmer’s caliber aren’t easily replaced. First bigtime QB we’ve had in about a decade.
With that in mind, yes, Chubbs will most likely go that route.
Wouldn’t be surprised if McFadden, Lechler and Seabass are also sent packing.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Don’t worry about Palmer he is the man he will be one of the top 5 QB’s next year.
You know that show where Kurt Warner rates his top 5 QB;s every week….yeah Palmer will be there often next year you can print that.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Shane Lechler might have as much trade value as Darren McFadden.
Well maybe not as much, but I would bet he would only be about a round or two off.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I will have to check with Bcz24 on this, but I thought you could only restructure each contract once.
Carson restructured last year, and I don’t think he could restructure again.
He could rip up the contract and sign a new one, but players will only do that if there is more guaranteed money in the new contract.
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Didnt Bob Gallery re-do his contract like every 2 weeks?
January 25th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
“Wouldn’t be surprised if McFadden, Lechler and Seabass are also sent packing.”
That has to be the second dumbest thing I have read in here (Because #1 always goes to Brownstains) Why would you get rid of the best Special Teams unit in all of football?
Come on man!
January 25th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Does anyone actually think that Mark Davis could even stay sober for some of these 4 hour coaches interviews?
After about an hour, he would let Reggie take care of it, and hit it happy hour.
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Drunk NFL owners are more the norm than the exception. How about Bensen in New Orleans. Or Do you remember the story back in the day that Eric Dickerson was going to be traded from the Rams to the Colts? There was joke in the league at the time that said that deal could never go down. Because Georgia Frontinere never got up before noon on any give day, and by that time Robert Irsay the Colts owner was too drunk to do any business. Now you know why the Polians and Manning are out of Indy.
January 25th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
“His Guy” was more in the context of, someone HE hires. Not someone inherited.
………..
Hmm. Interesting. If he’s the one doing the hiring, and we all know it, why would he feel it’s necessary to emphasize “my guy”?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
“His Guy” was more in the context of, someone HE hires. Not someone inherited.
………..
Hmm. Interesting. If he’s the one doing the hiring, and we all know it, why would he feel it’s necessary to emphasize “my guy”?
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Because there was someone in the position who wasnt “his guy”.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
““His Guy” was more in the context of, someone HE hires. Not someone inherited.”
Why is that so hard for people to comprehend!
I get it if you are a word twisting troll and you are determined to make a guy look bad but most of us who speak English understand what he meant…..he wants to hire his own guy not work with people someone else hired DUH!
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Seriously.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Brien posted a pic of both him and Bob at a game.
You saw it.
You commented on it.
You take drugs, MR?
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When? Around what date? I’ll look for it right now.
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Ask Brien, he’ll remember.
Besides, you already know what Brien looks like, right?
You ran into him at a game, remember?
You said you were right in front of him, wearing your MaddenRaider jersey, that all he had to do was look up.
*gasp*
Are you saying you lied on that?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Why is that so hard for people to comprehend!
………..
I don’t think it’s a matter of comprehension. I think it’s a matter of it being BS!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
GoodOle, there’s no picture of “Brien” or “Bob” in existence. If you know of one, post the link.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Hmm. Interesting. If he’s the one doing the hiring, and we all know it, why would he feel it’s necessary to emphasize “my guy”?
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Because there was someone in the position who wasnt “his guy”.
How about this I will interpret for the reading impaired….Reggie wants the Head Coach of his football team to be his “Choice”
You see insert the word “Choice” for “His Guy”
Same thing you just have to have a form grasp of the English language.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Didnt Bob Gallery re-do his contract like every 2 weeks?
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I am not sure if he ripped up his contract, or if that was allowed in the previous CBA.
All I know, is I hard you could only restructure a contract once.
Could have been hogwash that I heard.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Really? No news all day?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
The words “my guy”. Too profound to just be referring to a typical hire of someone you choose, imo. Why would he need to emphasize? Why not just make the moves? I don’t buy it for one second. Reggie’s “guy” was Winston Moss. Somebody had other plans.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Really? No news all day?
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We landed on the moon!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
when Reggie says “His Guy” he means a guy he chooses.
Its pretty simple……unless like I said earlier you are a word twisting troll who is trying to make Reggie look bad.
I am pretty sure most of us here get it.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Don’t worry about Palmer he is the man he will be one of the top 5 QB’s next year.
You know that show where Kurt Warner rates his top 5 QB;s every week….yeah Palmer will be there often next year you can print that.
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This is now officially the dumbest comment made on this blog.
How can he be in the top 5 next year when he sucked this year? a 80 qb rating? 13 tds with 16 interceptions? No, not talking about total yds, which is the only excuse Carson lovers run, that he came in half way through. Regardless (or irregardless, as our Mensa GM likes to say)of when Carson started, he immediately sucked and continued to suck. Lots of yards. Lots of turnovers.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
The words “my guy”. Too profound to just be referring to a typical hire of someone you choose, imo. Why would he need to emphasize? Why not just make the moves? I don’t buy it for one second. Reggie’s “guy” was Winston Moss. Somebody had other plans.
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And we did 9/11 to ourselves..
And Kennedy wasnt shot from the grassy nole..
January 25th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
when Reggie says “His Guy” he means a guy he chooses.
Its pretty simple……unless like I said earlier you are a word twisting troll who is trying to make Reggie look bad.
I am pretty sure most of us here get it.
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Cut & Print.
There should be no more addressing of the issue.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
The reason McKenzie said “his guy” is because he has class and didn’t want to say, actually Hue Jackson is a hack of a HC, and we are obviously not sticking with him.
It was a way of cushioning the blow to Hue, again, because McKenzie is a stand up dude, and they share agents as well (what’s good for the goose is good for the gander).
Quite trying to make everything an X-files show.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
What up Raider Nation!?
I like the hire personally.
I will ask Lechler, Condo, Seymour and Seabass at the prow bowl practice tomorrow
Don’t be jealous.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
666, It’s simple, alright. Simply BS. Just drop it. Several reports had Reggie hiring Moss, suddenly his name dissolves. Then we go in this Al-like coaching search for no-names and retreads. You’ll never convince me in a million years McKenzie wanted Allen over “HIS GUY” in Green Bay. Drop it.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
There should be no more addressing of the issue.
………
Can’t handle the truth, huh?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
How about this……Reggie had a person in mind but Allen nailed the interview and gave Reggie the feeling that this is the right guy for him.
So Reggie hired “His Guy” a person he chose that he feels comfortable with, a person whom he trusts to bring structure and discipline to the team that it has lacked for so many years.
Allen has a military background and maybe this is what Reggie wanted was for his players to be held accountable.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
While I would have preferred taking the overhead projector out for one more spin around the block, and highlight Hue’s shotty game management and ridiculously disingenous quotes, McKenzie took the high road.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
McKenzie comes in, says he wants “his guy”.
Several reports point toward Winston Moss being “his guy”.
Suddenly, the Raiders go on this bizarre, lengthy, Al Davis-esque search for all of these cheap retread and no-name coaches.
Raiders end up hiring a HC that McKenzie has absolutely on prior work relationship with.
These are the facts. This is the timeline.
You guys have your interpretation, I have mine.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Only thing official is the “handshake agreement,” so far.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
MR I could care less about convincing you of anything you are a word twisting troll who harbors hate towards the entire organization including Amy Trask who you don’t even know anything about.
You are such a little hateful man with no scruples to the point where you berate a successful woman out of jealousy and hate.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Reggie McKenzie hired his guy, his name is Dennis Allen.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Bizarre and lengthy?
What was it, like two weeks?
He brought in a few interviews, and hired one of them shortly thereafter.
This isn’t like your interviews at Domino’s, where you stand in line with a bunch of dudes with neck tattoo’s and they hire 5 people the next day.
Get a grip.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
GoodOle reminding us how dumb Raider fans can be:
“Carson immediately sucked and continued to suck.”
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6 solid games, 4 wins, off the street, out of 9
Chargers- 14-20, 299, 2/1 Td/INT
win – 17-23, 163, 1/0
win – 21-37, 301, 0/1
Chiefs – 16-26, 237, 1/2
Detroit – 32-40, 367, 1/0
Chargers – 28-43, 417, 2/1
Why is intelligence so difficult for some?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
1016.MiamiRaider78 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Is Carson still owed 12 million this year? lol That amount needs to be adjusted and re worked with some incentives if he performs well next season.
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If Campbell was worth $8 million, then Palmer is worth $12 million.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Bears and Vikings the other two games.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Come to think about it might be a good move for REGMAC to hire a former DB Coach for Headcoach. Reggie has an intimate knowledge about LBs (playing the position and through personnel duties)and a DB coach, like Allen, would presumably have expertise coaching the secondary. They could team up to bring some REAL expertise on the defensive side of the ball (evaluating players and coaching).
As for Offense Saunders might be a good re-hire, or someone familiar with Palmer. Palmer is at the stage in his career where he does not need to be spoon-fed and can run the offense with input from a OC or HC.
If Reggie Mac and the new HC can get the Defense ready come week one. Watch out league!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
McKenzie comes in, says he wants “his guy”.
Several reports point toward Winston Moss being “his guy”.
Suddenly, the Raiders go on this bizarre, lengthy, Al Davis-esque search for all of these cheap retread and no-name coaches.
Raiders end up hiring a HC that McKenzie has absolutely on prior work relationship with.
These are the facts. This is the timeline.
You guys have your interpretation, I have mine.
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Those ARE all facts. And mean nothing other than he hired HIS guy of choice.
Dennis Allen.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
GoodOle reminding us how dumb Raider fans can be:
“Carson immediately sucked and continued to suck.”
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6 solid games, 4 wins, off the street, out of 9
Chargers- 14-20, 299, 2/1 Td/INT
win – 17-23, 163, 1/0
win – 21-37, 301, 0/1
Chiefs – 16-26, 237, 1/2
Detroit – 32-40, 367, 1/0
Chargers – 28-43, 417, 2/1
Why is intelligence so difficult for some?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
“Wouldn’t be surprised if McFadden, Lechler and Seabass are also sent packing.”
That has to be the second dumbest thing I have read in here (Because #1 always goes to Brownstains) Why would you get rid of the best Special Teams unit in all of football?
Come on man!
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They’re also:
1) Highly paid at their respective positions. Reg might feel that it’s not good value.
2) Deeply entrenched in the organization and Reg wants a clean slate.
3) Probably have some mid-round trade value.
I believe Condo is up for a new contract as well. All three could be out.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
“You guys have your interpretation, I have mine.”
Yes that is true, while our interpretation is closer to the truth and yours was derived out of a demented fantasy you had while drinking too much cough syrup one night.
Face it everything out of your mouth is negative hate spewed on our team. Never once have you ever made a logical or realistic statement on this blog.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
No word twisting, 666. Just FACTS.
Reggie McKenzie is hired as Raiders GM.
Reggie says he wants to hire “his guy” as head coach.
Several media reports, in fact, just about every report pertaining to the Raiders’ HC situation, point to Winston Moss being “his guy”.
Winston Moss and Reggie McKenzie had worked together for 6 years in Green Bay.
The Raiders go on a lengthy head coach search, interviewing several unwanted no-names and retreads, Moss’s name all but dissolves from the Raiders HC hunt.
Raiders eventually hire HC that has no prior work relationship with Reggie McKenzie.
No twisted words. Just facts. Interpret them however you wish.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
MR has to be at odds with whoever is in charge of the Raiders.
Its in his contract. He’s just doing what he has to contractually.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
1049.Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
McKenzie comes in, says he wants “his guy”.
Several reports point toward Winston Moss being “his guy”.
Suddenly, the Raiders go on this bizarre, lengthy, Al Davis-esque search for all of these cheap retread and no-name coaches.
Raiders end up hiring a HC that McKenzie has absolutely on prior work relationship with.
These are the facts. This is the timeline.
You guys have your interpretation, I have mine.
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So you are saying Al isn’t dead!
I FKN KNEW IT!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
sigh
other dumb fans want us to trade our best players for draft picks that hopefully turn out to be…
good players.
So we have save a few million. While we go 5-11 and lose millions on revenue.
Seriously.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
, interviewing several unwanted no-names and retreads,
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Including Winston Moss
January 25th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
“Mistakes will happen. They happen because of haste, and I don’t want to act in haste. So we’ll evaluate all our personnel and when the time comes, when it’s time to make a move, if we have to, we will.” R.M
January 25th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Chris in NY you are physically 3,000 miles from this team and your little brain is even further from what is happening here.
Go stroke Sanchez’s hot dog a few times and come back to tell us about it.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
, interviewing several unwanted no-names and retreads,
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Including Winston Moss
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Point being that Winston Moss is being put on hold for other no-names and retreads. I could see if we were letting Moss lie in wait because we were working on Cowher or Parcells…
January 25th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
“MR has to be at odds with whoever is in charge of the Raiders.
Its in his contract. He’s just doing what he has to contractually.”
That actually makes more sense than the babble his is trying to sell us in here today.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
MR has to be at odds with whoever is in charge of the Raiders.
Its in his contract. He’s just doing what he has to contractually.
……….
Ooooh, yeh, that’s it. The Broncos, The Chargers, The Chiefs, Mike Silver, Adam Schefter and Mike Lombardi have collectively hired me as an operative to bring down the Raider nation with negativity! ooooooh! Good conspiracy.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
They’re also:
1) Highly paid at their respective positions. Reg might feel that it’s not good value.
2) Deeply entrenched in the organization and Reg wants a clean slate.
3) Probably have some mid-round trade value.
I believe Condo is up for a new contract as well. All three could be out.
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This is stupid too. You really think a team with a defensive head coach is going to get rid of the best punter in the league and a kicker who can make field goals from 63 yards out?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Pagano to coach the Colts.
Sure this will send some of you in to a hissy fit because you wanted him…..but you forget that he trashed the Raiders on his way out….rightly so, but still, it burns a bridge.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Lets See,first D Coach hired as Head Coach since Madden,Helloooo,that was my early 20s,nothing but greatness followed,Karma for us?Raiders!!!!!!!!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Broncos are about to upgrade at DC with Del Rio, while we downgrade our OC.
DC hire better be incredible, or we’ll be looking up at the Broncos again.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
“This is stupid too. You really think a team with a defensive head coach is going to get rid of the best punter in the league and a kicker who can make field goals from 63 yards out?”
I agree that was almost as stupid as a Brownstains comment!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
So, a young man walks into a bar with his wife Allison.
Bartender – “What’ll you have?”
Allison – “Give us two top shelf margaritas. My husband and I are celebrating his new job.”
B (to the husband) – “What’s the new job?”
Husband – “I am the new head coach of the Oakland Raiders.”
B – “Well, you ceratinly have your work cut out for you to deal with all the knuckleheads.”
H – “Knuckleheads? You mean because of all the penalties?”
B – “Oh I didn’t mean the players. They’ll be fine. I’m talking about all the knuckleheads that visit the Raiders blog.”
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Wow.
Sad.
Beyond sad.
Pathetic.
I feel bad for you.
Seriously, that was juvenile.
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Hilarious and appropriate considering the comments thrown around (don’t be so sensitive, its true)
January 25th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
MR has to be at odds with whoever is in charge of the Raiders.
Its in his contract. He’s just doing what he has to contractually.
……….
Ooooh, yeh, that’s it. The Broncos, The Chargers, The Chiefs, Mike Silver, Adam Schefter and Mike Lombardi have collectively hired me as an operative to bring down the Raider nation with negativity! ooooooh! Good conspiracy.
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It’s more retardation than negativity.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Broncos are about to upgrade at DC with Del Rio, while we downgrade our OC.
DC hire better be incredible, or we’ll be looking up at the Broncos again.
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Downgrade? That statement is laughable.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
“DC hire better be incredible, or we’ll be looking up at the Broncos again.”
The Bronco’s with Tebow will never be better than 8-8!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Broncos are about to upgrade at DC with Del Rio, while we downgrade our OC.
DC hire better be incredible, or we’ll be looking up at the Broncos again.
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Didnt these chicken littles say the same thing when Gruden was hired.
Too funny. The season hasn’t even started yet…..but consistent losing seasons turn you into people like this….
January 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
S&B666,
We’ll see. Maybe all I know is this:
When you hire Chubby Checker to run things, you better be prepared for a whole lot of twists.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I just realized Dennis Allen was a Graduate Assistant Coach at Texas A&M when Lechler was a freshman.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
“It’s more retardation than negativity.”
Post of the day and 100% true!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
S&B666,
We’ll see. Maybe all I know is this:
When you hire Chubby Checker to run things, you better be prepared for a whole lot of twists.
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I’d be glad to make assumptions about your competency based on a picture of you..
January 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
lMFAO@ 1082
January 25th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Albert Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I just realized Dennis Allen was a Graduate Assistant Coach at Texas A&M when Lechler was a freshman.
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Lechler for QB.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
“When you hire Chubby Checker to run things, you better be prepared for a whole lot of twists.”
I get that you want to make fun of how people look I did that too when I was a teenager but look at Stephen Hawking the smartest guy on the planet (not very handsome) look at Paul Allen (Microsoft) not a very handsome guy but Billionaire yes he is.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
When you hire Chubby Checker to run things, you better be prepared for a whole lot of twists.
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LOL!!
Just when I was starting to get sick of your constant Hue lovefest……..
January 25th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
1049.Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
McKenzie comes in, says he wants “his guy”.
Several reports point toward Winston Moss being “his guy”.
Suddenly, the Raiders go on this bizarre, lengthy, Al Davis-esque search for all of these cheap retread and no-name coaches.
Raiders end up hiring a HC that McKenzie has absolutely on prior work relationship with.
These are the facts. This is the timeline.
You guys have your interpretation, I have mine.
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Madden was a no-name coach, Gruden was a no-name coach, Sean Payton CERTAINLY was a no-name coach, John Fox, Mike Smith,
and an “interpretation” with no logical foundation, since the season, free agency, etc. hasn’t even started yet….
I will say this; the real issue is could a young, new hire reach overpaid, unproductive players – or is McKenzie ready to get the chopping block ready to slash payroll, trade and stockpile picks?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
S&B666,
We’ll see. Maybe all I know is this:
When you hire Chubby Checker to run things, you better be prepared for a whole lot of twists.
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I’d be glad to make assumptions about your competency based on a picture of you..
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Here you go: http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/79434a0300bc56685c79eac35103a906/446326.jpg
January 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
“When you hire Chubby Checker to run things, you better be prepared for a whole lot of twists.”
I get that you want to make fun of how people look I did that too when I was a teenager but look at Stephen Hawking the smartest guy on the planet (not very handsome) look at Paul Allen (Microsoft) not a very handsome guy but Billionaire yes he is.
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Mike Shanahan looked like a goof as well. Chubby Checker reference is hilarious….loved to see people make the comment to his face.
but, LMAO, its funny.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Without many draft picks, tradable assets, and cap space, I don’t think Reggie will make MAJOR changes this offseason.
The summer of 2013 will be the great purge.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
“The Raiders joined this year’s Tampa Bay team as one of the four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season, a distinction last reached by the 1952 Dallas Texans. The Raiders also became the sixth team since the 1970 merger to allow at least 2,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a season.
One of Allen’s first tasks will be fixing two long-standing problems: stopping the run and reducing penalties. The Raiders set an NFL record last season with 163 penalties for 1,358 yards.
Since the start of the 2003 season, Oakland has committed a league-worst 1,183 penalties — 133 more than second-worst Arizona, which is the same difference between second and 14th place.
The Raiders also have the worst run defense in the league over that span, allowing 175 touchdowns on the ground and 141.7 yards rushing per game.”
Ouch.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
The single most glaring thing that has been missing on our team is “Accountability” which is why Reggie wants a disciplinarian as a HC.
Allen comes from a Military background so I get the hire.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
umm
raidersam
no one said anything when Gruden was hired, because most of us weren’t chatting online yet.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
we were also coming off a 4-12 season, but continue your dumb comments.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Without many draft picks, tradable assets, and cap space, I don’t think Reggie will make MAJOR changes this offseason.
The summer of 2013 will be the great purge.
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Nice to see you’re feeling so confident about the 2012 season.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
umm
raidersam
no one said anything when Gruden was hired, because most of us weren’t chatting online yet.
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LMAO.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
The single most glaring thing that has been missing on our team is “Accountability” which is why Reggie wants a disciplinarian as a HC.
Allen comes from a Military background so I get the hire.
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A situation made for “eye rolling” and mutiny…especially with an under-achieving group – Allen has to pump the breaks gently and give tough love and nurture. Camp Allen could be a mistake with so many highly paid people – thats what makes those salaries Al Davis shelled out so, unbelievable….
January 25th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
and 141.7 yards rushing per game.”
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Both of McClain’s years, we averaged less than that!!
Progress MFers!!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
1085, I would agree with you except that we have sub-moron McClain:
small, beady, animal eyes (with no luster that would demonstrate human intelligence;
sluffed off chin;
nasty goatee;
horizontally striped sweater (green and white)suggestive of circus clown rather than defensive team captain NFL team, present in his booking photo in which he shrugged off a $25M contract in favor of gunplay at a party in Alabama.
LOOKS DO COUNT>>>>>>>
January 25th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
on the list of things Raiders need:
Improved D scheme.
Improved DT, DE, OLB, SS, CB1, CB2.
better backup RB that won’t wear out down the stretch.
smarter players that won’t commit as many penalties.
A full off/pre-season for Palmer and his WRs.
Better fortune with health to core players.
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Coach with military background talking up “accountability.”
January 25th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
There was a youtube that showed a Fox Sports update on like 3 teams making serious offers toward Gruden before the Raiders hired him, think it was from ‘96. It’s not there anymore. But anyway, Alex is right. Internet was in its infancy then so all that existed was hearsay amongst the media establishment. Think the Cowboys were one of the teams interested in Gruden. If there were a blogosphere and twitter, etc., then, that would have been big news.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
umm
raidersam
no one said anything when Gruden was hired, because most of us weren’t chatting online yet.
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LMAO.
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Same garbage – who’s this kid? etc. I will say that its a situation made for a power struggle early when someone young attempts to change the culture without a lieutenant like Rich Gannon to filter out the scrubs. Almost too laid back culture of very well spoken people in that locker room, very few “piss and vinegar” types. – thats one thing that definitely needs to change.
Many players almost too deferential to opposing teams down the stretch….need that “so what, us-against-the-world mentality” of those early Raven teams. I’m hoping Allen brings that swag, scheme and Mac gets some players that bring that attitude.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
As long as Allen doesn’t pull out the quote:
“We are going to usher in a new era of accountability”
Because, we know how that turned out.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I’m sure Reggie has been reading this blog to get some ideas what Raider fans are looking for.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Here is a Raiders’ fan who probably isn’t paying much attention to the hiring of our new HC:
“After mom’s untimely death, Reno dad embarks on raising newborn baby alone
SIOBHAN McANDREW Reno Gazette-Journal
First Posted: January 25, 2012 – 5:16 pm
Last Updated: January 25, 2012 – 5:16 pm
RENO, Nev. — Today, Karli Johnson should be rocking her baby.
The first-time Reno mom might call her baby “Peanut,” like she did when she saw him for the first time on an ultrasound.
She might put him in an Oakland Raiders onesie, the one she bought for her husband, Will Johnson, who is a fan of the football team.
The new parents would laugh through lots of yawns as their once adult conversations were now mostly about baby poop.
Karli Johnson, 26, should be smiling because she had everything she really wanted, friends and family say.
Instead, baby Bodie and his proud father, Will, left Renown Regional Medical Center Jan. 18 without mommy.
“It’s bittersweet,” said Will, who faces the future as a single father.
Karli died on Dec. 17, two days after giving birth.
The new father left the hospital where his son stayed for 33 days. He hasn’t gone home or to the yellow room he painted for his son since his wife died.
He plans to stay with Karli’s mother for now.
“It’s too sad to go back to that home that we were getting ready for the baby,” he said. He bragged about his wife who picked out the owl and tree decals for the walls of the baby room.
“She got him this baby book about a raccoon in Yosemite,” he said. “We loved Yosemite.”
The day he brought Bodie home, he smiled and made goofy faces, while sometimes fighting back tears, as he fed his son a bottle filled with donated breast milk.
“He looks just like Karli’s baby pictures,” he said.
Karli was 7 months pregnant and getting off work as a nurse at Renown Regional Medical Center when she had chest pain.
She was diagnosed with a lower dissection of the aorta. The serious condition is when a large tear develops in the inner layers of the blood vessel branching off the heart.
“The doctor told me it was a one in a 10 million chance it could happen to someone as young as Karli,” Will said. It wasn’t caused by her pregnancy, and could have happened anytime, he said.
At first, the couple was relieved it wasn’t as serious as an upper dissection, and doctors treated the condition with medicine, hoping the tear would fix itself.
“She handed me the thing,” he said of the pregnancy test. “She took like four of them to make sure.”
But it was serious enough that Karli was taken to Labor and Delivery for an immediate C-section.
Bodie was born on Dec. 15, weighing 5 pounds and 1 ounce.
“How handsome is my baby?” Karli asked the nurse.
Bodie was taken to the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit and put on a ventilator before Karli had a chance to see him.
The new mother stayed in cardiac intensive care and was having trouble breathing. But the next day, she seemed to be getting better.
Doctors were optimistic, and plans were made for Karli to move out of the ICU.
She got to go see her son the next day.
“She touched his feet and his head,” Will said.
Mom, Dad and baby took one picture together.
After seeing Bodie, Karli said, “He’s so sweet, and I’m so sad.”
Her condition also got worse.
“She was cold and pure white,” Will said. He kissed his wife and told her he loved her as they took her in to surgery.
“When the doctor came out and told us she died, I thought it was a sick joke,” Will said.
Karli died on the operating table.
The nervous new father said he remembers Karli sitting him down on the edge of the couple’s bed to tell him she was pregnant.
“She handed me the thing,” he said of the pregnancy test. “She took like four of them to make sure.”
Friends and family said Bodie will grow up hearing about Karli and how excited she was to be a mom.
“She wanted a career, to get married and have a kid,” Will said. “Bodie was her greatest accomplishment.”
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Raiders “accountability” last season.
- D player: “Yes coach, I don’t know how to play zone. Hasn’t been taught here in 40 years.”
- Mike Bush: “Yes coach, I could use a backup and breather.”
- DTs: “Yes coach, that’s me playing out of position in this scheme.”
- DEs: “Yes coach, we’re intstructed to go get the QB, run D be damned.”
- Boyd: “Yes coach, I’m not sure why Mr. Davis has no one better.”
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Hey, we hired a D minded coach. That’s an improvement, and probably just the shot this franchise needs. We’re an improved franchise. But I still think Mark’s doing more meddling than he wants us to believe. see you guys later.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I hope Dennis Allen continues to rock the visor look like he did in Denver.
A dorky white dude, with a visor on, will lower our penalties by 1 game on looks alone.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless
Tebow 100% responsible for Dennis Allen getting Raiders job. If Orton had kept job, team finishes maybe 4-12 & nobody knows D coordinator.
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Enough with the Tebow sh*t already.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I hope Dennis Allen continues to rock the visor look like he did in Denver.
A dorky white dude, with a visor on, will lower our penalties by 1 game on looks alone.
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You are probably right about that.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
ust Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
As long as Allen doesn’t pull out the quote:
“We are going to usher in a new era of accountability”
Because, we know how that turned out.
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Must be very careful with “cliches” – because this bunch has gone through 4 head coaches in 4 years…team becoming close to self-parody….must be very shrewd and get production and improvement from inconsistent bunch…tall order
January 25th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
What Will become of Mcclain and are we resigning Branch I think our the Raiders biggest question about personal.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Albert Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I’m sure Reggie has been reading this blog to get some ideas what Raider fans are looking for.
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Wait … you mean there’s an app that translates this blog’s posts into picture stories?
Cool!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Albert Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless
Tebow 100% responsible for Dennis Allen getting Raiders job. If Orton had kept job, team finishes maybe 4-12 & nobody knows D coordinator.
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Enough with the Tebow sh*t already.
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I see Skip didnt learn his lesson from that absolute smack down New England put on Tebow and Denver. Allen has a lot to deliver to win over press…Jackson, for some reason was liked by the press…
January 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Sam
if the internet was bigger in ‘98, we’d have easily seen that Gruden had been the Eagles successful OC 2 out of his 3 years there, and had a background working with Mike Holmgren. This would have been an upgrade over 4-12 Bugel to anyone.
8-8 top-12 O two-years-running OC/HC to Dennis Allen…we just don’t know.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I hope Dennis Allen continues to rock the visor look like he did in Denver.
A dorky white dude, with a visor on, will lower our penalties by 1 game on looks alone.
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Implying the NFL has white supremacist tendencies. Hmm. I’ll check in later.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Must be very careful with “cliches”
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You mean, you aren’t “all in” and “geeked” about “letting it rip” while “building a bully”?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
As to Branch:
Whenever a player sucks for his entire career, and suddenly has a “breakout season” in their contract year it is a red flag. Offer him a contract for an average SS, and if he walks, then just move on.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Dakota that was like one of those crack baby commercials that come on during South Park episode on Comedy Central.
thanks buzz kill!!
January 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
http://siriusxmsports.posterous.com/john-madden-host-of-madden-football-on-sirius-69500
Madden likes the Allen hire as well.
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Interesting take by John Madden. I think I heard criticism of Hue Jackson. When coordinators, offensive or defensive get the promotion to Head Coach, they have to run the whole deal. Not just their specialized side of the ball.
Listen to it.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Sam
what’s Skip supposed to learn about from NE smackdown of Denver? That their DC gave up 6 TD passes?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Albert Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless
Tebow 100% responsible for Dennis Allen getting Raiders job. If Orton had kept job, team finishes maybe 4-12 & nobody knows D coordinator.
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Enough with the Tebow sh*t already.
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Skip Bayless has perfected the art of trolling. There’s no way he believes 90% of the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. He’s a professional troll.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Dakota
isn’t it like Branch’s 3rd or 4th year? Aren’t they supposed to blossom right around there?
He was solid last year too.
Couldn’t it simply be an upward career trend?
I’d understand if he was 32 years old and suddenly had his first outstanding year.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
1116.Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Albert Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I’m sure Reggie has been reading this blog to get some ideas what Raider fans are looking for.
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Wait … you mean there’s an app that translates this blog’s posts into picture stories?
Cool!
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McKenzie = Valedictorian
Chris in NY? You seem pretty bright, but I doubt you were the valedictorian of your class.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
“If Orton had kept job, team finishes maybe 4-12 & nobody knows D coordinator.”
Kinda true. Denver’s defense actually got worse down the stretch.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
to all that talked bad about hue for ,makin ROOKIE coach mistakes. let us all enjoy our new ROOKIE coach who will undoubtedly make sum ROOKIE coach mistakes. welcome coach allen to the land where u better start off 6-0 or hear firing rumors .
January 25th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Tyvonn Branch blew his opportunity for big bucks while pefecting his stupid fake fencing, chi-chi Rodrgiuez looking celebration, at the expense of learning how to not bite on the play action and play a little zone defense.
I’m with Dakota, give him a fair contract, and let him walk otherwise.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Skip Bayless has perfected the art of trolling. There’s no way he believes 90% of the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. He’s a professional troll.
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So true. He is always a contrarian. Gets him higher ratings. He is kind of like the MR of sports writers.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
KK
do you blame interim Head Coaches for whatever suckiness is brought about by their coordinators?
Wasn’t Hue after Al’s death suddenly the de facto interim HEAD coach? Before that he just ran the O, like EVERY SINGLE RAIDERS HEAD COACH for the last 4 decades.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
“If Orton had kept job, team finishes maybe 4-12 & nobody knows D coordinator.”
Kinda true. Denver’s defense actually got worse down the stretch.
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Did you take into account they were never that talented and had injuries to the little talent there was?..
January 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
There are rookie mistakes for HC’s, and than there are I-am-in-way-over-my-head HC mistakes.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
If anyone tries to keep bringin up Dennis Allen’s D rankings last year my reply will just be : Mike McCarthy.
Done trying to explain.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
true. Remember Allen is greener than Hue as far as HC or coordinating experience.
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doriangray Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
to all that talked bad about hue for making ROOKIE coach mistakes, let us all enjoy our new ROOKIE coach who will undoubtedly make sum ROOKIE coach mistakes.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
1126.alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Dakota
isn’t it like Branch’s 3rd or 4th year? Aren’t they supposed to blossom right around there?
He was solid last year too.
Couldn’t it simply be an upward career trend?
I’d understand if he was 32 years old and suddenly had his first outstanding year.
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He is 25, going into his 5th year, solo tackles down each year, 3 CAREER ints, 3 CAREER forced fumbles.
Just not worth the hype Jackson was squaking about all of last year.
Offer him a contract that is for an average SS, and if he walks then don’t even worry about it.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
KK
do you blame interim Head Coaches for whatever suckiness is brought about by their coordinators?
Wasn’t Hue after Al’s death suddenly the de facto interim HEAD coach? Before that he just ran the O, like EVERY SINGLE RAIDERS HEAD COACH for the last 4 decades.
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Take up your complaint with John Madden. The Head Coach has to be ultimately responsible, it’s his name on the product.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ummm, Deuce Deuce??
As O-Coordinator of the Saints, Mike McCarthy, prior to heading off to Green Bay, lead the Offense to the following rankings in points scored:
10th, 13th, 3rd, 14th, 14th.
Compare that to Allen’s 24th? The heck??
January 25th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Allen could go 1-15 next year and probably still get a three-year trial because he’s now Reggie’s guy.
I will say this: if key guys stay healthy (Palmer, McFadden, etc.) and Reggie doesn’t blow up the roster (Palmer, McFadden, Lechler, Seabass, etc.) then we’re built for a 12-4 type season, or at least 10-6 and a deep playoff run. That’s what I would’ve expected of Hue w/ a new DC and a chance to make some tweaks. And I’m not lowering expectations just because the new coach is a rookie.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Dakota
isn’t it like Branch’s 3rd or 4th year? Aren’t they supposed to blossom right around there?
He was solid last year too.
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He was actually not very good last season. But he played very well in his second season. This wasn’t his only good season, unlike Routt and Huff in their contract years.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
“The Head Coach has to be ultimately responsible, it’s his name on the product.”
So it was Norv Turner’s fault for the defense sucking.
It was Kiffin’s fault for the drafting and playing of Jamarcus.
Norv’s fault for Rob Ryan’s 3-4 short-circuit?
We are talking about Al Davis’ Raiders, right?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ummm, Deuce Deuce??
As O-Coordinator of the Saints, Mike McCarthy, prior to heading off to Green Bay, lead the Offense to the following rankings in points scored:
10th, 13th, 3rd, 14th, 14th.
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You left out his one-year stint in San Fransisco, where McCarthy presided over an historically bad offense.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
“If anyone tries to keep bringin up Dennis Allen’s D rankings last year my reply will just be : Mike McCarthy.
Done trying to explain.”
People do not understand that McCarthy had one of the worst offenses in the league as an OC before he was brought to Green Bay….whats does his offense look like now?
January 25th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
All of You,
Quit trying to analyse AL, especially the past 29 seasons in which his record was 9 and 20, as “Coach.” You can of course continue on your merry way but will only accomplish the paralysis of over-analysis:
After the victory in Superbowl ‘83 AL found it easier to earn money winning lawsuits than winning football games. Most here think the Raiders were Davis’ team: they were not. Davis only had ownership interest of 60% in the Raiders, most of which he obtained unlawfully by forging an agreement with the actual majority owners of the Raiders in the mid-60’s, which gave AL 100% operational control of the club. This contract was challenged by the minority owners years later but AL’s legal machinery was so well organized he beat them down and won the case. That is after he gained $150M from the NFL and City of Oakland in lawsuits and had a full warchest to pursue that litigation indefinitely.
Now then, when AL became over 70 yrs old he began suffering mental infirmities of the aged (not to mention a permanent brown racing stripe in his underpants). Except for the Gruden anomaly AL’s “way” was the way of deterioration and disaster.
I personally advocated that the minority owners file an action based on oppression by AL, the majority partner, subject to evidence of his negligence and willful and wanton acts which harmed the minority to AL’s benefit. Such actions can vitiate even the most iron-clad power sharing agreements in a partnership.
In conclusion, AL’s actions past 2002 were demented and appalling, including his presence at press conferences with open, running sores on his face.
In order to move forward from “Alzheimer’s AL’s nightmarish decade”, 2002 – 2011, we have to hope the club is gutted an all evidence of AL’s taint is eliminated, and that somehow the path of the Raiders is turned again toward dynasty.
Analysis of AL’s actions in the time periods described herein are not only futile, but follow the ravings of a mad man.
THANK GOD AL IS DEAD….
NOW LET’S FORGET HIM, FOREVER.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Dennis Allen will lead his defense to another AFC West championship next season.
I am confident of this, and anything less (save for say a 10-6 wild card berth) will be viewed as a failure in my eyes.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Dakota
can’t we assume INT and FFumble numbers go up in a better system where you play more zone and actually face the play longer?
I don’t blame ANY Raider D-players for not having enough INTs. Learned that after Woodson and Nnamdi left and promptly saw their INT numbers escalate.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
“You left out his one-year stint in San Fransisco, where McCarthy presided over an historically bad offense.”
That is the one I was talking about.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
have any of u ever seen a team that makes the “wrong ” hire more often than oakland. how do all of our head coach tenures end badly ? every head coach weve had now hates the organizization . now everybody sayin hue was a bad hire. when there was so much positive optimism when he was hired. i just sat back & observed. and now im observing all the positivity over reggie mc and coach allen . i wonder , oh how i wonder how this will end. i can see it now
January 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
then we’re built for a 12-4 type season, or at least 10-6 and a deep playoff run.
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Chris, really? No Raider fan in their right mind should ever believe that this team is set for a 12-4 season and a deep playoff run. Let’s just make the playoffs first before we start dreaming of Super Bowls.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ummm, Deuce Deuce??
As O-Coordinator of the Saints, Mike McCarthy, prior to heading off to Green Bay, lead the Offense to the following rankings in points scored:
10th, 13th, 3rd, 14th, 14th.
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You left out his one-year stint in San Fransisco, where McCarthy presided over an historically bad offense.
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Thank you.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Broncos go 1-4 down the stretch, praise their DC.
Raiders go 1-4 down the stretch, blame the OC/HC.
Makes sense.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Dennis Allen will lead his defense to another AFC West championship next season.
I am confident of this, and anything less (save for say a 10-6 wild card berth) will be viewed as a failure in my eyes.
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I think that’s fair. The only pass I’d give to Allen would be if CC decides to blow up the roster and bring in a Matt Flynn to replace Palmer, trade DMac for a mid-round draft pick, etc.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
http://siriusxmsports.posterous.com/john-madden-host-of-madden-football-on-sirius-69500
Listen to the Madden interview, and skip all the straw man fake arguments, Alex.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Deuce Deuce
so you admit there’s no comparison?
McCarthy = 5 solid years of OC, 1 bad with no QB
Allen = 1 bad year as DC.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
if Peyton Manning returns to Indy, are they still a “finesse” team under Chuck Pagano?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Well, this explains why Kevin Boss had an underperforming year with us last season. He had a finger injury that the team decided not to disclose:
http://misseye.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/fingers16xy14zy0cs.jpg
January 25th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Broncos go 1-4 down the stretch, praise their DC.
Raiders go 1-4 down the stretch, blame the OC/HC.
Makes sense.
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One was in control of the defense.
One was in control of the ENTIRE team.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ummm, Deuce Deuce??
As O-Coordinator of the Saints, Mike McCarthy, prior to heading off to Green Bay, lead the Offense to the following rankings in points scored:
10th, 13th, 3rd, 14th, 14th.
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You left out his one-year stint in San Fransisco, where McCarthy presided over an historically bad offense.
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Thank you.
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So does this mean Tom Walsh (of the Art Shell Part II B&B offense) would’ve made a great HC hire in 2007? Or does this mean that McCarthy’s season with the Niners was an anomaly that was written off and the guy’s previous experience and track record is what got him the job.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
KK
why on earth would I take Madden’s word on anything that isn’t about coaching in the 60s and 70s?
What makes him an expert in any other field?
Should we ask Madden what PLAYERS are supposed to act like? So he can point at his collection of flagrant-fouls, stick-um wearing, beer-drinking, steroid-using guys that he presided over?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Interesting article on ProFootballFocus about safeties, Branch rates quite high.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
Vote NO in LA Times poll. LA Time & ESPN LA are trying to take the Raiders away from Oakland! Spoil their plans! Vote NO & Help Oakland Keep the Raiders!
January 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ummm, Deuce Deuce??
As O-Coordinator of the Saints, Mike McCarthy, prior to heading off to Green Bay, lead the Offense to the following rankings in points scored:
10th, 13th, 3rd, 14th, 14th.
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You left out his one-year stint in San Fransisco, where McCarthy presided over an historically bad offense.
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Thank you.
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So does this mean Tom Walsh (of the Art Shell Part II B&B offense) would’ve made a great HC hire in 2007? Or does this mean that McCarthy’s season with the Niners was an anomaly that was written off and the guy’s previous experience and track record is what got him the job.
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It means you cant judge a HC by 1 year of “rankings” while a coordinator.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Chris
I don’t think Deuce understands the word anomaly, much less uses it in statistical analysis.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
KK
why on earth would I take Madden’s word on anything that isn’t about coaching in the 60s and 70s?
What makes him an expert in any other field?
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Now, you’re just being a Troll.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Chris,
I don’t see why he would “blow” things up.
If he does that, the team fails and he is canned, than he probably won’t be offered a GM job again and take a significant paycut FOR LIFE.
He will make changes, no doubt. But blow it up? Don’t see it.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
So would everyone be happier with someone who has proven to be a great coordinator?
Like say, Norv Turner.
Exactly.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Here’s Deuce’s logic:
Coach Allen – 1 year of underwhelming DC experience.
Coach McCarthy – 5 of 6 years of outstanding OC experience.
Hey, let’s compare the two!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Madden said Allen should definitely give up defensive play calling.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Well, now we have a Defensive Coach who has the support of the GM. Now they can work together. If certain palyers cop attitude with the new D-system and try to draw a paycheck RegMAc will have to come down and make some personnel moves; his neck is on the line as well.
Defensive Players you are now ano Notice. Pleased be advised that all scholarships have expired.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Chris
I don’t think Deuce understands the word anomaly, much less uses it in statistical analysis.
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Your pe-nis is an anomoly.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Umm,
Norv Turner of the back-to-back-to-back AFC West championships? And playoff victories?
My choice is him with a legit DC and Davis out of the way, or Allen?
Umm….
January 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
**on** Notice
January 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Madden’s advice for Allen sounds like a criticism of Hue. Head coach has to run team, should not be calling plays.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Allen = 1 bad year as DC.
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How bad of a year was it, really?
The Denver defense improved drastically from 2010 in literally every category.
This is spite of having lower-tier players for much of the season at every level of the defense.
Bunkley and Thomas at DT
Woodyard and Mays at LB
Goodman at CB
Bruton and Carter at S
The defense allowed the Broncos to win games in spite of having an offense that couldn’t put up points.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
DD
now that is true. Thank you
January 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Here’s Deuce’s logic:
Coach Allen – 1 year of underwhelming DC experience.
Coach McCarthy – 5 of 6 years of outstanding OC experience.
Hey, let’s compare the two!!!
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Dont put words in my mouth.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
now stop peeking through my bathroom window you perv.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
u tell em alex.. lol.. ask john madden whats the best foot fungus medication or sum sh^t ….
January 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
With Dennis Allen a secondary guru, if Branch leaves, he might be looking at a whole completely different safety rotation.
MM34 and Boyd suck, and should be cut. Huff makes too much, and should restructure or be cut. Giordano is a rotational guy only.
Could be a whole new unit back there, and I would expect a S or 2 to be drafted in April.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Don’t put what words into your mouth? These?
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
If anyone tries to keep bringin up Dennis Allen’s D rankings last year my reply will just be : Mike McCarthy.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
When we sign a player, I like to go to the blogs for the team that player was at previously and see what they have to say…..for instance, 49er fans were laughing their azzes off when we signed Kwame Harris, and Atlanta fans couldn’t wait to watch MeAngelo leave.
Reading Broncos’ blogs, and even Saints’ blogs yesterday, it was overwhelmingly sadness and anger at Allen leaving.
Not a guarantee, but a very good sign too me that Allen is going to be the real deal.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Alex7
If John Madden’s & Ron Wolf’s opinions about the Raiders doesn’t mean anything, your’s damn sure doesn’t, ok?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
YA
some of us don’t think a jump from 32nd to 24th is a “drastic” improvement, especially when you played the Chiefs twice, the Vikings without AP, and the Bears without a QB.
You also had Dumerville, Bailey, and a possible D rookie of the year.
I dunno. Now Wade Phillips? That’s a turnaround.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Someone on twitter has already gave Allen a nickname, “Dennis the Menace”.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
chuck pagano looks like a gat dang football coach too . he just looks like he konws sumtin . dunno wut it is.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Reggie has been on the job for all of 2 weeks and Allen has barely signed his contract and we got guys in here crucifying them both!
Sorry blog dweebs you will have to wait 8 months to see weather or not these moves are good or bad.
So keep on yapping for the next 8 months talking smack with little or nothing at all to back it up because this is the off season.
I myself am going to be patient over the next 8 months until I pass judgement on either Reggie or Allen.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
KK
Seriously. MADDEN WAS A PLAYER’S COACH who let them get away with A LOT! He’s going to tell me about how a coach should “act”?
The heck does he know about today’s NFL coaches’ styles, player behavior, etc.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
KK
why on earth would I take Madden’s word on anything that isn’t about coaching in the 60s and 70s?
What makes him an expert in any other field?
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Alex7
If John Madden’s & Ron Wolf’s opinions about the Raiders doesn’t mean anything, your’s damn sure doesn’t, ok?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Don’t put what words into your mouth? These?
DeuceDeuce Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
If anyone tries to keep bringin up Dennis Allen’s D rankings last year my reply will just be : Mike McCarthy.
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Exactly.
What other words do you see besides Mike McCarthy?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
S&B
are you making fun of us for “yapping”…
in a chat forum?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
well, I see all these Deuce.
If anyone tries to keep bringin up Dennis Allen’s D rankings last year my reply will just bethere are exactly
you know, the ones COMPARING them.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Allen could go 1-15 next year and probably still get a three-year trial because he’s now Reggie’s guy.
I will say this: if key guys stay healthy (Palmer, McFadden, etc.) and Reggie doesn’t blow up the roster (Palmer, McFadden, Lechler, Seabass, etc.) then we’re built for a 12-4 type season, or at least 10-6 and a deep playoff run. That’s what I would’ve expected of Hue w/ a new DC and a chance to make some tweaks. And I’m not lowering expectations just because the new coach is a rookie.
….
While I’ll agree that Chuck B sucked and had to go, I still have 1 question…
Why do you feel a DC alone would make up for the deficiencies in talent on the defensive side of the ball?
A coach is not a magician who can presto-chango a unit into winners simply by changing the gameplan.
I can understand if you feel the Raiders were stacked on Defense and just underperformed, but I just don’t see it that way. Too many positions lack depth and true standouts as starters.
As for 12-4 expectations for next year…
Have you seen the schedule for 2012?
The Raiders have ROAD games against the Ravens, Bengals, Dolphins, Falcons, and Panthers… That’s 3 playoff teams, a team that’s blown out Oakland 2 years in a row, and Cam Newton on the ROAD!That’s not even counting the Division road games.
At home, where the Raiders had a losing record this year under your boy Hue Jackson, the Raiders host the Saints, Steelers, Bucs, and Browns along with the AFC West teams. That is 2 more playoff teams.
So the Raiders face 5 playoff teams (3 of those on the road), Cam Newton, the Dolphins, and the AFC West that the Raiders split with in 2011.
You really expect 12-4 out of that?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
When we sign a player, I like to go to the blogs for the team that player was at previously and see what they have to say
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I did this last year after we signed Boss.
When I reported that the NYG semi-pro’s were saying he was injury prone and drops too many passes (even providing a link showing him leading the NFL TE’s in dropped passes) people threw tomatoes at me.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
well, I see all these Deuce.
If anyone tries to keep bringin up Dennis Allen’s D rankings last year my reply will just bethere are exactly
you know, the ones COMPARING them.
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try that again…?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
almost to 1200. time for a new post.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Alex because you are making assumptions on things that have yet to transpire.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
agreed. Now there’s a good hire. A guy proven to know his x’s and o’s based on RESULTS,
not excuse-making on why his unit sucked.
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Doriangray says:
chuck pagano looks like a great dang football coach too . he just looks like he konws sumtin . dunno wut it is.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
KK
Seriously. MADDEN WAS A PLAYER’S COACH who let them get away with A LOT! He’s going to tell me about how a coach should “act”?
The heck does he know about today’s NFL coaches’ styles, player behavior, etc.
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WTF do you know about football, that John Madden doesn’t know?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
agreed. Now there’s a good hire. A guy proven to know his x’s and o’s based on RESULTS,
not excuse-making on why his unit sucked.
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So he didnt have superior talent?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
S&B
we were a good DC hire away from DOMINATING the AFC West.
Everyone knows this.
But we’re starting over again instead. Maybe it’ll work out, maybe not.
But there’s a commitment to “being comfortable with my HC” instead of winning. Don’t dig that.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
1182.Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
When we sign a player, I like to go to the blogs for the team that player was at previously and see what they have to say…..for instance, 49er fans were laughing their azzes off when we signed Kwame Harris, and Atlanta fans couldn’t wait to watch MeAngelo leave.
Reading Broncos’ blogs, and even Saints’ blogs yesterday, it was overwhelmingly sadness and anger at Allen leaving.
Not a guarantee, but a very good sign too me that Allen is going to be the real deal.
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I live in Denver and the players going on the local talk radio shows are all saying the same thing. For what that’s worth.
Also, wtf was all that talk about Shawn Jones being hired as our Assistant GM about?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I really hope Mark Davis becomes some wild, eccentric owner.
It will be a welcome change of pace.
He can party it up with the Warriors guys, and just be visible.
Unlike Al.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
DD
Talent is what you make of it.
Some coaches get results, others have excuses made for them that they need 11 first-rounders on their unit.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Obviously. The Huebert Jackson apologists are still in mourning.
Obviously.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Wade Phillips showed up, 8 of 11 same starters on D, and turned them from 30th to 3rd.
No excuses for “lack of talent.”
Same with Harbaugh and the Ravens O. Made them better. Similar players.
Same with Harbaugh and the Niners O and D. Made them better. No excuses.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
The Indianapolis Colts borrowed a page from the Oakland Raiders playbook on Wednesday, hiring Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator Chuck Pagano as their new head coach.
Pro Football Talk was first to report the story, and ESPN.com and multiple other outlets confirmed the hiring.
Pagano, like Dennis Allen, whom the Raiders agreed to terms with Tuesday night, are moving into the head coaching ranks after just one year in their current positions as defensive coordinators. New Colts GM Ryan Grigson explored a number of avenues interviewing several candidates before settling on Pagano.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colts-hire-Ravens-DC-Pagano-as-head-coach.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
January 25th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
good job DD
always revert to non-scientific, not-statistical comments. Much easier to sound like you’re right when you do that.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Wade Phillips showed up, 8 of 11 same starters on D, and turned them from 30th to 3rd.
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Two of those 3 starters were a top 3 cover man (Joseph; maybe the best coverman in the game) and a top 12 pick in JJ Watt who is a beast DE.
And they added Brooks Reed, who doesn’t start, who is a better edge pass rusher than anyone we have.
Wade deserves a lot of the credit, but that wasn’t the same personnel.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Wade Phillips showed up, 8 of 11 same starters on D, and turned them from 30th to 3rd.
No excuses for “lack of talent.”
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Name 1 player on our starting D that the texans would give up cushing for?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Wade Phillips showed up, 8 of 11 same starters on D, and turned them from 30th to 3rd.
No excuses for “lack of talent.”
Same with Harbaugh and the Ravens O. Made them better. Similar players.
Same with Harbaugh and the Niners O and D. Made them better. No excuses.
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He also changed the entire system, and had the #1 Rushing offense.
And when did the Ravens offense get better?? Especially seeing as John H. has nothing to do with that side of the ball.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
For what it’s worth,
some players were lamenting losing Cable as HC. I wouldn’t put TOO much stock on what players say when their coordinator leaves.
Whether they “like” a guy or not should be a bit lower than “what were the results?”
24th, aka 8th-WORSE in the NFL, is what it is.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
KK
Seriously. MADDEN WAS A PLAYER’S COACH who let them get away with A LOT! He’s going to tell me about how a coach should “act”?
The heck does he know about today’s NFL coaches’ styles, player behavior, etc.
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LMAO! Another armchair expert…an overabundance of those in here.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Wade Phillips showed up, 8 of 11 same starters on D, and turned them from 30th to 3rd.
No excuses for “lack of talent.”
Same with Harbaugh and the Ravens O. Made them better. Similar players.
Same with Harbaugh and the Niners O and D. Made them better. No excuses.
…….
BULLSH!T You are a f’n moron.
The Texans, Ravens, and Niners are all stacked with talent.
GTFO!
January 25th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Deuce!!!
I thought head coaches should be blamed for EVERYTHING!
What do you mean John Harbaugh has nothing to do with offense?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
So the 30th-ranked Texans defense last year was “stacked” with talent.
The terrible 49ers offense last year was “stacked” with talent.
The laughable Ravens offense before Harbaugh showed up was “stacked” with talent.
Ok buddy
January 25th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Deuce!!!
I thought head coaches should be blamed for EVERYTHING!
What do you mean John Harbaugh has nothing to do with offense?
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When did I say HC’s should be blamed for everything?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Texans starting d has the lkes of these playmakers;
JJ Watt
Demeco Ryans
Brian cushing
Conner Baldwin
Jonathan Joseph
Who on the Raid D is a playmaker?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Let me count the number of pro bowl players those units had before their coaches turned them around.
ummm, zero…one…two…three…four…that’s about it. for 3 teams.
Mario Williams, Frank Gore, Ray Rice, Vernon Davis?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
1182,Dakota,good Point,those in Denver are NOT Happy Campers,lets wait for the DC pick as well as the OC.Could be interesting,its Allens call
January 25th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
i wonder if theres a defensive coordinator alive that coulda made the 2001 ravens defense suck ? or maybe even this seasons 49ers defense ? if the raiders had the giants d- line and palomalu u all would be calling chucky B a genius right now and then sumbody woulda hired him as their head coach . ya gotta have sum good players but i agree that sum defensive coordinators are just useless.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Wimbley made plenty of plays last year.
Seymour made plenty of plays last year and this year vs Texans.
McClain, Huff, Houston all “playmakers” in college before showing up to Al Davis’ house of cheap coaches.
Curry made plays.
Shonasty made plays.
Just need better coaching/scheme. Talent is spread out throughout the league.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Become a BLOGGER and act like one
January 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
So people are crying about us hiring some young DC who was considered and up and coming HC candidate and was well respected by his players, and was missed by fans when he left his prior two jobs.
Well, to me this means things have changed big-time in Oakland. Last time we had a chance to hire a guy like that it was Sean Payton, but he was advised by multipe NFL people to steer clear of the Raiders. We have turned that page, and now we can go after young rising stars without the fear that they will choose to remain assistant coaches instead of taking the HC gig in Oakland.
Times are changing for the better.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
i wonder if theres a defensive coordinator alive that coulda made the 2001 ravens defense suck
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I would not challenge the depths of Chuck B’s worthlessness.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Spin, spin, spin!!
January 25th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Chucky B. had the following talents his last stint in Oakland:
Charles Woodson, Eric Allen, William Thomas, John Parella, Rod Woodson, Greg Biekert, Trace Armstrong, Bill Romanowski.
Yet he still was under-whelming. O helped their D ranking a bit, but they still were run on frequently, and weren’t considered a dominant D.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I guess the Raiders haven’t confirmed anything yet.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
1224.Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
So people are crying about us hiring some young DC who was considered and up and coming HC candidate and was well respected by his players, and was missed by fans when he left his prior two jobs.
Well, to me this means things have changed big-time in Oakland. Last time we had a chance to hire a guy like that it was Sean Payton, but he was advised by multipe NFL people to steer clear of the Raiders. We have turned that page, and now we can go after young rising stars without the fear that they will choose to remain assistant coaches instead of taking the HC gig in Oakland.
Times are changing for the better.
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What he said.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Some of you goons get way to hung up on stats. I like stats myself, but you have to realize that Big Mac didn’t hire Allen because he took the Denver D up just under 10 spots in yardage rankings. He hired him because he felt he had what it took to lead a team. You can be an offensive or defensive genius and not be a good head coach. Some guys have it. Some guys don’t. Word on the street was that this guy was going to the top and had what it took. Maybe not as soon as it happened, but McKenzie saw something in his interview with him that I don’t know if he even expected to see. Whatever it was, Big Mac’s gut said this is the guy. Let’s see what happens.
Stick your stats right up your keister.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
actually . i believe aaron curry , as dumb as he is , is a playmaker . lamarr houston too . matt shaughnessy also . and by some miracle mike huff has that ability to be a playmaker . just wish he wasnt soft .
January 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
The Big Banana Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Some of you goons get way to hung up on stats. I like stats myself, but you have to realize that Big Mac didn’t hire Allen because he took the Denver D up just under 10 spots in yardage rankings. He hired him because he felt he had what it took to lead a team. You can be an offensive or defensive genius and not be a good head coach. Some guys have it. Some guys don’t. Word on the street was that this guy was going to the top and had what it took. Maybe not as soon as it happened, but McKenzie saw something in his interview with him that I don’t know if he even expected to see. Whatever it was, Big Mac’s gut said this is the guy. Let’s see what happens.
Stick your stats right up your keister.
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Well said.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Dennis Allen has now been compared to:
Mike McCarthy (5 of 6 outstanding OC years)
and
Sean Payton (3 years outstanding OC, Super Bowl appearance)
January 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
JFB
Mr Prez was pretty smooth last night, huh?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
way to keep it real
January 25th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Allen’s last year with the Saints as DB coach…..ranked 4th in pass D.
Year after Allen left….dropped to 30th.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
1225,Vegas,killin me,suffice to say,You dont have a Chucky B poster?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Dennis Allen sounds like a Hungry, Intense, Grinder, like Jon Gruden.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Offensive Quality Control guy for Denver is Bill Callahan’s son. Maybe Allen will bring him with.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
I have no problem with the Allen hire..
As long as Herrea is allowed to take him down to the nearest self-serv carwash, to blast the Donkey stench off, before he sets foot in Alameda…
At some point Allen must have been in the same room as ‘ol mule gums Elway. Thus, a thorough cleansing is required…
January 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Deuce Deuce
can you name me a successful HC that wasn’t a successful HC or OC or DC or ST coordinator before?
Sean Payton was, Rex Ryan, Belichick, Gruden, Tomlin, Cowher, McCarthy, Dungy.
Successful coaches tend to be successful coordinators first.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Wade Phillips showed up, 8 of 11 same starters on D, and turned them from 30th to 3rd.
No excuses for “lack of talent.”
Same with Harbaugh and the Ravens O. Made them better. Similar players.
Same with Harbaugh and the Niners O and D. Made them better. No excuses.
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That’s because there wasn’t a lack of talent on those defenses.
Texans = Ryans, Cushing, Williams (then Reed after he got injured), Watt, Joseph, Smith, Manning
49ers = Willis, Bowman, Smith, Smith, Sopoaga, Whitner, Rogers
Also, neither of those teams had an offense that would go three-and-out on 90% of their drives until the 4th quarter. You keep giving the ball back to the opposing offense, and they’ll eventually pad their stats.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
909RaiderLifer,What kind of soap?Bleach?and for how long?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Deuce Deuce
can you name me a successful HC that wasn’t a successful HC or OC or DC or ST coordinator before?
Sean Payton was, Rex Ryan, Belichick, Gruden, Tomlin, Cowher, McCarthy, Dungy.
Successful coaches tend to be successful coordinators first.
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I cant because your interpretation of success wont allow me.
ello govna’
January 25th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
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Dont waste your breath..
January 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
And with that. Im off work.
Good day fellows.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
1194.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
When we sign a player, I like to go to the blogs for the team that player was at previously and see what they have to say
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I did this last year after we signed Boss.
When I reported that the NYG semi-pro’s were saying he was injury prone and drops too many passes (even providing a link showing him leading the NFL TE’s in dropped passes) people threw tomatoes at me.
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Most NYG fans loved them some Boss before he came here, then they all said hes not that good.
Kind of like how people here did the same thing when Miller took off
January 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
YA
yet all that “talent” wasn’t getting it done, until the real coach showed up.
So we agree that coaching is more relevant than talent, being that similar talent was turned into top units, despite mostly same players being there.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
true Realtrue
Raider “fans” bashed Gallery, Miller, and Asomugha, three of our best players, when they left.
Fans know little. Can’t trust their opinions.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
this has JOSH MCDANIEL writing all over, I HOPE Im Wrong, but I dont know I cant see a REBEL UNDISCIPLINED team listening to a PUNY SKINNY 39 year Old Nobody.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Deuce Deuce
success = having your coordinated unit in the top half of the league.
Easy. Now go find me a successful HC that didn’t do that as an OC/DC/or ST coordinator.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
“You’ll never convince me in a million years McKenzie wanted Allen over “HIS GUY” in Green Bay.”
No one cares what you’re convinced of. You’re evidently and very bored or lonely person.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
we get allen, they get del rio as dc.
good trade?
January 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Now, go away.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
1248.alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
YA
yet all that “talent” wasn’t getting it done, until the real coach showed up.
So we agree that coaching is more relevant than talent, being that similar talent was turned into top units, despite mostly same players being there.
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Shanny may disagree. With Elway he was the “mastermind.” Without Elway he is just another s-head that will probably be looking for work at the end of next year.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
YA
yet all that “talent” wasn’t getting it done, until the real coach showed up.
So we agree that coaching is more relevant than talent, being that similar talent was turned into top units, despite mostly same players being there.
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Yes, coaching always trumps talent. That’s why the Broncos defense was able to keep them in games, even with Tebow struggling, in spite of having only a few players who could crack the starting lineup on any other defense in the league.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
wow, herm edwards as our d coordinator . never thought about it . tthat would make sum headlines. he would be soo intense .
January 25th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Deuce Deuce
success = having your coordinated unit in the top half of the league.
Easy. Now go find me a successful HC that didn’t do that as an OC/DC/or ST coordinator.
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So you term for success isnt winning? Its stats.
Because Perry Fewell is one of the hotter HC candidates. His D ranked near the bottom of the league this year. And he’s in the Super Bowl.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Raiderdav Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
this has JOSH MCDANIEL writing all over, I HOPE Im Wrong, but I dont know I cant see a REBEL UNDISCIPLINED team listening to a PUNY SKINNY 39 year Old Nobody.
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Reggie will cut their ass if they don’t get in line.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
1250.raiderdav Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
this has JOSH MCDANIEL writing all over, I HOPE Im Wrong, but I dont know I cant see a REBEL UNDISCIPLINED team listening to a PUNY SKINNY 39 year Old Nobody.
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The skinny punk sounds like he is a no-nonsense type of guy, and don’t forget, he will have that huffing, puffing, mouth breathing giant GM standing behind him taking copious notes on all the overpaid fools who look like they are not standing at attention to their new General.
Party is over you fools. No more pizza parties! Time to work or get the fk out! Yeah, I am talking to you Slowlando McFatazz!
January 25th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
true Freddie B.
QBs trump all. Manning showed that.
To win, necessary is
QB play, DC, HC in that order.
Mr. Davis ignored the first two for a long, long time.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
OK, Im really out this time. Couldnt resist that meatball.
Raider on, Raiders.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I guess it’s a good thing McKenze didn’t hire Winston Moss. The Racist dog-whistle’s would be going off like hell.
The food-Stamp General Manager, for example. Lol.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
1261.alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
true Freddie B.
QBs trump all. Manning showed that.
To win, necessary is
QB play, DC, HC in that order.
Mr. Davis ignored the first two for a long, long time.
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Agree.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Dakota
you don’t blame McClain for being as fast as he is, do you?
Not sure how much a guy can improve that.
He succeeded at the top college program.
He was drafted by an organization with cheap coaches.
He was placed in a new position.
Blame the organization first.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
There will be no bullsh*t with this coach I would be willing to bet. Players need to do what they are asked or told to do and shut the fu*k up period! It is as simple as that. That attitude is what we need to turn this around.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
DD
coordinators aren’t in charge of winning.
They can only control their side of the ball.
See ya.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
that would get me excited. hire herm edwards as the raiders defensive coordinator . i just bet the players would listen to him .
January 25th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
lol @ perry felwell being one of the “hottest” coach candidates around.
How many interviews? How many HC openings are there left?
Thought so.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
of course coaching trumps talent! sf 49ers proved that, they went that far with basically the same team singletary had. the proof is in the puddin
January 25th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
1265.alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Dakota
you don’t blame McClain for being as fast as he is, do you?
Not sure how much a guy can improve that.
He succeeded at the top college program.
He was drafted by an organization with cheap coaches.
He was placed in a new position.
Blame the organization first.
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Bull scht, the organization is not to blame for his double chin, his pot belly, and his tendency to quit on plays the second a player has gone by him.
That stuff in inexcusable.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
This is 2012, not 1970. Adjust reality accordingly. Unless you’re Bill Belichick or Tom Coughlin and can get away with it because your x’s and o’s knowledge is 50 times higher than your opponent (Bill) or you have Eli Manning (Tom).
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jesusraiderjim Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
There will be no bullsh*t with this coach I would be willing to bet. Players need to do what they are asked or told to do and shut the fu*k up period! It is as simple as that. That attitude is what we need to turn this around.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Dakota
you’re saying McClain quit on plays more often than others?
Or was it an ORGANIZATION-wide failure? Because I saw “pro bowler” Seymour quit on many plays.
Yet McClain was our leading tackler game after game. Odd.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
This man gets it! It’s all about the DC and OC, scheme baby.
araiderso Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
of course coaching trumps talent! sf 49ers proved that, they went that far with basically the same team singletary had. the proof is in the puddin
January 25th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Coaching does not trump talent. Good coaching puts players in positions where they can be successful. Need both. Never seen a coach fill a gap or make a tackle.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Madden Raider,
Richard Seymour is how old? McClain is like 24 and plays like he is an old dog vet who has little left in his tank.
Seymour is disappointing too. But plenty of other guys are hustling around the field.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Common Sense….. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/01/common-sensetime-to-come-up-free-agency.html
January 25th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
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January 25th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
FreddiB
other than QB, coaching matters more.
49ers, Ravens, Patriots with Matt Cassel, Texans with Wade Phillips, Raiders after Gruden hangover season, Bucs after Gruden left, Chargers going from Mike Riley to Norv Turner…
January 25th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
So Dakota
McClain at his sluggish self was still one of our best tacklers and play-makers.
Sounds like a success-story waiting to happen once he’s given a legit DC.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
1279.alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
FreddiB
other than QB, coaching matters more.
49ers, Ravens, Patriots with Matt Cassel, Texans with Wade Phillips, Raiders after Gruden hangover season, Bucs after Gruden left, Chargers going from Mike Riley to Norv Turner…
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Agree. Dosen’t “Trump.”
January 25th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Look at McClain,
Small, beady animal eyes without luster demonstrating lack of intelligence;
Sluffed off chin demonstrating under-breeding;
Nasty goatee demonstrating a knack for eating bad puzzy…
In his booking photos (regarding “the incident” in which he shrugs off a $25M contract in favor of ghetto gun-play) he wears horizontal green striped sweater demonstrating he is a circus clown instead of the captain of the defense of one of the NFL’s most storied franchises.
Enough said ?????
January 25th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
this team has the talent to make the tournament for years to come. we need the proper defensive coaching, hopefully its arrived. if not we made a mistake not let hubert bring in his own man.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
alex7, #1280,
How do justify such an allegation, Alex?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Has anyone heard an explanation of what all that Shawn Jones was hired as asst GM talk was all about?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
i cant stand the fact that gay people use the rainbow as a sign of homosexuality . god gave us the rainbow as a sign of what will happen if u can just endure the storm . but gay people hve the audacity 2 pervert a true visual miracle .
January 25th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Almost 1300 posts in less than 24 hours since the last post.
That is almost one every minute.
Pretty impressive.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
KevinBossman Kevin Boss
Very excited about the hiring of our new head coach Dennis Allen! #RaiderNation
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Interpretation: So glad that Hue is gone. That jack ass would rather throw the ball to Housh than use the tight end.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
God created man-on-man rimjobs, too.
PRAISE THA LAWD JESUS-AHH.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
The worst part of the McClain arrest, wasn’t the charges, his stupid smile or the timing of it.
I say, it was the fact that our starting MLB was wearing BORDERLINE SKINNY JEANS WITH SOME TYPE OF DESIGNER WHITE BELT.
Puke!!
January 25th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Al D. Davis
if someone as shallow as you can be intelligent enough to post online,
then there must be hope for all, no?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Alex, I am waiting for you to justify statistically your claim about the sub-moron, McClain. I say send him packing, back to queer-nation with a banana between his teeth.
Mostly what I saw of the sub-moron was out of position, bad angles, mis-reads, cartwheeling, arms churning, missed arm tackles, as runners of all types -RBs, QB’s (Tebow just destroyed him), WR, FBs – blew right past him.
I can’t forget his unmitigated audacity to claim that he would never talk to the press again while 3 days later in an interview stating he was playing very well since the “incident”; even his Momma said so.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
If your going to be a MLB in the NFL, and are going to be thugging it up, than dammit, give me a nike hoodie and some sweat pants hanging off your azz.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
1288.Albert Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
KevinBossman Kevin Boss
Very excited about the hiring of our new head coach Dennis Allen! #RaiderNation
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Interpretation: So glad that Hue is gone. That jack ass would rather throw the ball to Housh than use the tight end.
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So the players are acknowledging it before the team? Some things never change.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
dorian
that was so randomly interesting lol
January 25th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
alex7 #1292,
Save the small talk about me and prove your claim….
January 25th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
D Davis
did you see anything BETTER from any of our other players?
Can’t blame all 11.
Just like you couldn’t blame the Texans D two seasons ago before Wade arrived and actually coached them.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Pagano to Colts as HC.
Good hire by Colts.
Pagano should have been interviewed here, but he knows how the Davis’ are cheap with paying head coaches.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Any word yet on who Allen is looking to hire as his Coordinators and Assistants??
These hires will be CRITICAL for kid Allen if he wants to succeed.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Al D. Davis
would have cut Vernon Davis after his first season,
and Alex Smith by now too.
And Reggie Bush after his first few years.
And DMac after his first two.
Or you can just give them a real coach. I like the latter.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Just Fire Baby #1293:
I am all for it, and I would praise the sub-moron for his gunplay if he only performed.
Performance is key, not external trapping of dress and attitude without the performance.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Im not crazy about the hire at all, however i am willing to wait and see what he brings to the table. I will take it with guarded optimism, after all big mack knows more football than anyone on this board. I was fired up when hu jack came on, i would term my feelings today as luke warm or tepid enthusiasm. Not because he doesnt have the big name, simple because the stops he has made didnt produce very good defensive numbers. This doesnt mean he isnt the guy to get it done necessarily, but to a degree as a fan base we are flying blind. “use the force luke”, and trust in big mack
January 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
good post Mistic.
I haven’t seen a successful HC that wasn’t top-15 as a coordinator before.
That said, HCs are a bit overrated, while DCs and OCs are underrated. The next few hires will make or break next season, along with the health of Palmer and DMac.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Well, I’m glad “Chubby Checker” haha….didn’t hire the bad retreads like Morningwood, Tice or Capers.
If he was going to look at retreads, at least look at GOOD retreads like Gruden, Fisher and Cowher.
Allen is going to need to make the right choices for his staff. If he hires the Chuck B’s of the coaching world, that will not do him, the team or fans of Raider Nation any damn good!
January 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Dennis Allen won a Super Bowl with his EXACT unit picking off Peyton to house the game-winner.
I don’t care if he picked his nose for the rest of his career, that is something none of our recent hires ever even came close to.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
alex7 #1300,
No Alex, I wouldn’t have cut those players you listed. Because they were mired in a horrible system worse than the Raiders and had little to no chance to perform.
Plus they didn’t shrug at a huge contract in favor of ghetto nonsense aka “the incident”.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Alex, you are correct about applying a good coach. If memory serves me, you supported retaining Hue?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Al D. Davis Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Look at McClain,
Small, beady animal eyes without luster demonstrating lack of intelligence;
Sluffed off chin demonstrating under-breeding;
Nasty goatee demonstrating a knack for eating bad puzzy…
In his booking photos (regarding “the incident” in which he shrugs off a $25M contract in favor of ghetto gun-play) he wears horizontal green striped sweater demonstrating he is a circus clown instead of the captain of the defense of one of the NFL’s most storied franchises.
Enough said ?????
So you are saying RoNegro is Black AND G@Y?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
alex , these guys post about hitler in here and other crap . i thought that was OUR thing . heck lol . & jfb , thats how young ( thugs) dress these days. tight pants and pink bubble coats. in the 70`s im sure tough guys had a screwed up sense of style also .
January 25th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
1271,Dakota on fire,and RIGHT
January 25th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
good post Mistic.
I haven’t seen a successful HC that wasn’t top-15 as a coordinator before.
That said, HCs are a bit overrated, while DCs and OCs are underrated. The next few hires will make or break next season, along with the health of Palmer and DMac.
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That is it in a nutshell. There are now two questions in my mind that will determine the fate of next seasons team.
1.) can allen elevate the play of our dreadful defense? If not for epic collapses starting in buffalo, we should have made the playoffs.
2.) can palmer improve his play and cut down the pics? i dont need 25 tds and 20 picks. He can give us 20-25 tds and 10 picks or less we will be in good shape offensively.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
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January 25th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
When was the last time Al Saunders even called a play in the postseason?
It was almost 10 years ago!!
Dennis Allen was doing it a few weeks ago.
Great hire.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
All this talk about Allen pro and con. One thing I can say and I watched I think all the games on Rewind this year is that our defense often looked confused and often gave up big plays with people out of position. There were also strange exotic coverages like DE’s and LBs covering receivers that did not fool anybody. Bresh in 2001 had really good veteran smart talent and they probably covered a lot of the lack of him as a Coach. Now in 2011 he had young players and they made all kinds of mental mistakes. It sounds like Allen is the exact opposite and for that I think the Def. will improve. If they keep Saunders I think the offense will improve because of the extra time Palmer will get in off season. Also we wont have Hue’s silly play calls to deal with.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
& jfb , thats how young ( thugs) dress these days. tight pants and pink bubble coats.
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Cam’Ron at SS?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Dennis Allen won a Super Bowl with his EXACT unit picking off Peyton to house the game-winner.
I don’t care if he picked his nose for the rest of his career, that is something none of our recent hires ever even came close to.
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I dont think allen called the defense for the saints, so i cant give him all of the credit for that play. The saints defense wasnt very good that year, just good enough. they reminded me of our defense during our last super bowl window, middle of the pack but coupled with an explosive offense giving them a slight edge, playing with a lead often.
Lots of people vouch for him and say he is something special so I will give big mack the benefit of the doubt in the mean time.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
1960
weren’t Hue’s “silly” playcalls the reason we went from 31st in offense to 5th, and 12th last year?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
The 2009 World Champion Saints, had the 3rd most int’s and the 2nd best QB rating (67 on the year!!!) allowed.
I would say Allen should have got a HC job after that season.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
1289,Just threw up,thanks for the bs
January 25th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
John Tweedy # 1308,
I am saying McClain plays like he is gay. Skin color is irrelevant to me, Tweedy. Mostly though he is underbread and very unintelligent with little football savvy.
I attack him on personally because he is creepy, was given every chance and blew it.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
wow JFB
secondary coach to Head Coach huh? Going straight for the historically quickest ascension?
No rose-colored glasses there
January 25th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
1322 posts. What the hell is going on here? you call this reporting? please post something, anything, on madden, on wolf, on marc davis, get the hamster on the treadmill and do something!
January 25th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
In Reggie we trust
January 25th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
alex7 #1317,
There were a number of factors beyond Hue’s control regarding the success of the offense in 2010. The fact that JaMarcus was cut gave the offensive a tremendous life. Also, in 2010, our schedule was very easy, in which we played mainly bottom tier teams with losing records.
However, this season, 2011, we suffered a drop-off, maybe due to injuries, maybe not. Hue’s play calling did go stagant however, even with Al Saunders present.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
The 2009 World Champion Saints, had the 3rd most int’s and the 2nd best QB rating (67 on the year!!!) allowed.
I would say Allen should have got a HC job after that season.
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those numbers dont mean much to me the way I remember it the saints were a scoring Juggernaut that year. teams playing from behind had to pass and were in very predictable situations. this allowed them to turn up the heat and get their hands on a lot of passes. Im not certain how much allen had to do with it, other than having his guys ready to seize opportunities when they came up.
I wont put to much stock in the stat line from the saints super defense, it wasnt all that.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
1322 posts. What the hell is going on here? you call this reporting? please post something, anything, on madden, on wolf, on marc davis, get the hamster on the treadmill and do something!
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I guess Corkran/Jerry are waiting for a official announcement from the Raiders?
January 25th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I wonder if Allen will try to bring in CB Tracy Porter.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
cfrylopez Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
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January 25th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Atleast we can actually be active in FA instead of sitting back watching good players go. Finnagen would be a good pick up (let lito and cj walk) if possible get beast mode and trade murphy let chaz walk and get desean jackson i dont see the eagles coughing up money. Having Moore DHB Ford and DJackson is scary. And he is from Cal. And he can return our punts and we wouldnt have to worry about throwing moore back there. And use Boss some more unlike Hue. And get Bowles as DC. Del rio might land in donkeyville
January 25th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Albert Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless
Tebow 100% responsible for Dennis Allen getting Raiders job. If Orton had kept job, team finishes maybe 4-12 & nobody knows D coordinator.
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Enough with the Tebow sh*t already.
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Why you hate Tebow so much?
January 25th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
I can’t guarantee that Allen will be the next tomlin but I think many of you hue Jackson supporters going after Reggie is uncalled for. Chris in Ny who loves huejack is talking about jano n shane being let go is crazy. Mark Davis said he needs a new stadium and we will have trouble competing for the big ticket free agents without one. So that signals that guys like Mario Williams is off the table but I didn’t get the feeling he was not tearing our roster apart. Hating on Reggie in January is so uncalled for. Bottom line , hue was part of problem not solution. Reggie made a good move. Also Madden and wolf were both involved in getting Reggie here. So until I see the team that’s gonna hit the field I remain,positive.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
@RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
Hearing lbs coach dean pees very likely to get ravens defensive coordinator job
January 25th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Latst scuttlebutt is that Allen may be looking at Niners secondary coach Ed Donatell and Queef secondary coach Emmitt Thomas as possible Raider DC’s.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Allen could be a hire that vaults Reggies GM status thru the roof. Finding his guy might mean something more than words. If Allen is able to take the Raiders to the Super Bowl and win as a rookie HC, Reggie comes out of it as pure genius. Sifting thru available coaches like a private detector, Reggie comes up with Dennis Allen:
-a competitor in our own division. Has the scoop on all AFC West teams.
-a defensive minded disciplinarian is exactly what this team needs
-eager to prove himself, Allen has the support of a legit GM
Reggie has out done himself with this hire. The big one is ours for the taking. Good job Reggie, now lets get busy.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
The DENNIS ALLEN HC report is NOT A DONE DEAL according to NFLN.
(Siciliano about a half hour ago).
January 25th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Reggie may be having second thoughts according to NFLN.
It is interesting that if it were a done deal why no announcement from Raiders yet.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
I think Dennis Allen will be good for the Raiders. He knows how to defend the offenses in the AFC West. I rather take a chance on a young hungury coach than an old an retread coach. Many of these old retreads haven’t won anything yet either. Champ Bailey was talking on ESPN Radio about how Dennis Allen pays attention to detail and he holds players responsible.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Interesting words from John Madden regarding what a “head coach” means. Ie, not someone who runs one side of the ball, but someone who is in charge of everything and responsible for everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhPkoJTZIk
January 25th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I heard Jay Glazer yesterday on local sports talk radio, when he broke the news on Allen..
He said that one thing that could hang up the deal, was the amount of money for asst. coaches saleries..
Allen doesn’t want to be forced to get guys on the cheap..
Could help explain the delay of confirmation from the Raiders, on the hire…
foxsportsradio.com. petros and money show link.. If you want to hear it for yourselves…They have an show archive link…
January 25th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
djohnny
to be fair, the Raiders rarely announce anything before the rest of the press does, even when it’s official.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Walterfootball reports that the Raiders have interviewed NT Ta’Amu (Washington) and a couple of possesion type receivers (Quick, Criner) believed to be late round prospects, among others, at the Senior Bowl.
I know it’s not much but food for thought.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Hmm, and we know Hue was passionate about bringing in some real coordinators (not cheap).
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909RaiderLifer Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
I heard Jay Glazer yesterday on local sports talk radio, when he broke the news on Allen..
He said that one thing that could hang up the deal, was the amount of money for asst. coaches saleries..
January 25th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Weird GG, being that Davis continually hired head coaches to basically run the O, and were shunned when they tried to tamper with the D or the D-Coordinators.
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GG Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Interesting words from John Madden regarding what a “head coach” means. Ie, not someone who runs one side of the ball, but someone who is in charge of everything and responsible for everything.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
No worries dude, he will never figure it out. The only one you need is Brian Duke.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
1332.YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
@RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
Hearing lbs coach dean pees very likely to get ravens defensive coordinator job
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Not surprising and that makes sense for the Ravens.
That sucks, I was hoping Pees would be considered as the DC here with Raiders.
Slim chance though, since Allen has never worked with him before.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Al passed away week 4. Hue was in total control week 5-17.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
1340.alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
djohnny
to be fair, the Raiders rarely announce anything before the rest of the press does, even when it’s official.
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Raiders PR department is a mess.
Can’t wait until Reggie cleans that dept up and fires John Herrera.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Fire John Herrera NOW!
January 26th, 2012 at 11:19 am
So, in other words, what 66 and other backwards posters are saying, Mac saying he wants his guy, didn’t mean he had his own guy in mind, he was saying he wanted anyone than the one chosen by the deceased owner?
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really?
It’s one or the other.
If he had no one close to him, in mind, then Hue should have gotten the same consideration anyone got.
If mac had no one in mind, means hes not confident in running things with someone other than someone owing him.
Not all that impressed with Mac, to be honest.
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