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Allen was on a fast track to HC job

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 25th, 2012 at 9:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Spent a lot of time the last two days digging into the background of Dennis Allen, the choice of Reggie McKenzie to be the next coach of the Raiders.

Talked with Allen’s high school coach, Tim Edwards, (Allen played for the L.D. Bell Blue Raiders in high school) as well as his college coach at Texas A&M, R.C. Slocum. Reached a pair of his former college teammates and former NFL Players in Terry Mickens and Hunter Goodwin, as well as Allen’s father Grady, a former NFL player with the Atlanta Falcons.

“He’s always been ahead of the game,” Slocum said. “He’s mature beyond his years.”

Slocum said Allen, who was under consideration for the St. Louis Rams job that went to Jeff Fisher, had three different job offers when he left the Atlanta Falcons for the New Orleans Saints. According to Grady Allen, his son’s mentor while with the Falcons was longtime defensive coordiantor and defensive backs coach Emmitt Thomas.

Said Grady Allen: “He’s always had a knack for being around the ball, making plays, and he probably played at a level maybe one or two steps above what his athletic ability would lead you to believe that he could play because he’s such a student of the game.”

Click here for a link to the story which runs in Thursday’s Bay Area News Group papers.

Raiders punter Shane Lechler, another part of the Texas A&M family, was a redshirt in 1995 during Dennis Allen’s senior year at Texas A&M and was the Aggies’ punter when Allen served as a graduate assistant coach.

Lechler told reporters at the Pro Bowl he was intrigued to see what Allen can do as a head coach.

Near the end of our conversation, Slocum relayed the story about how the East Bernard High School standout switched from quarterback to punter.

“I got him one day and said, you know, you can hang around here for a few years and probably play some quarterback, because you’re a good athlete. But if you work on your kicking you can kick for a long, long time and make a living doing it,” Slocum said. “I told him, what I want you to do is go over there every day with the deep snappers and work every day on your punting and you’ll be the best punter in college football. Next time you see him tell him he owes coach Slocum.”

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  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    Inland empire Raider Nation. Riverside. San Bernardino. Where you at? Amtrak specials. Send the players to sports bars in the I.E. Radio shows. Malls. What about the high desert Raider Nation? Lancaster? Palmdale? Aint nothing but a one hour flight. Players can get down there, meet and greet, take pics with fans, be home for a late supper.

  • aig-raiders

    Also keep in mind that a very small percentage of black people were made slaves or born slaves.
    ——————-
    Mistic, Please excuse me. I didnt realize Black folks paid for their way to America from Africa.

    I was taught that they were kidnapped and came here because of slavery. And that they were bred based on their physical ability rather than the minds. (sarcasm)

  • http://raiders.com Albert

    RaiderChaos, quit spamming the blog.

  • YoungAmerican

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    789.YoungAmerican Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    4-year deal = front office now hiring coaches for real

    For as much as people saw Hue Jackson as “the chosen one” in the wake of Al’s death, even he only got a 2-year “prove it” deal.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hey Young,

    Who are you hoping to see Allen hire as his DC?

    I’m hoping he hires Bowles or Donatell as his DC.

    I think Thomas is too comfortable being a Queef and he is 70 years old. He may not want the added stress of being a DC.

    I’m not a fan of Richard Smith either.

    ——————-

    Not a fan of Richard Smith here, either. But if Allen designs the defense and Smith just calls the plays, it might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Bowles could be an option, but they have no connection to each other and they’re both secondary coaches.

    Del Rio would be best case scenario, but he might go work with his buddy Fox.

    Emmitt Thomas is best case scenario. He and Allen have a good relationship and Thomas has been a successful coordinator for a couple different teams. His age is a concern, but hey, LeBeau is 70 isn’t he?

    Don’t know much about Donatell.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    KoolKell Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    If the original man had not survived then there would be no human life. he had to be given the best i order to survive, this cleared the way for human life to diversify and populate the entire earth.
    —————————–
    White racists rationalize their racism, too.
    aig-raiders Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    not racist its reality.

    If the original man had not survived then there would be no human life. he had to be given the best i order to survive, this cleared the way for human life to diversify and populate the entire earth.
    —————
    Sure but you do realize that Nazi’s believed in this concept too. They just take it further and say that they evolved more than the original man. That’s what the Nazis believed in. You can’t have it both ways man.
    =====================

    I think you guys are misunderstanding me all together.
    There is nothing that i have posted remotely analogous to nazi propaganda.

    The fact that the first humans were black is documented science. naziism was cultism, and folklore, not backed by any science what so ever.

    If the first human was a weakling how could humanity grow from that point?

    Not my fault, the black man is the root of all human kind and civilization, and maybe a direct descendant of the creator, if you believe in such things

  • LA to TheBay

    Antelope valley has a lot of LA transplants and a decent Raider Nation following.

  • J Hill

    The NC guys look pretty solid.

  • http://raiders.com Albert

    RaiderChaos, you have an isider? LOL I heard on twitter 3 or 4 days ago that Richard Smith may be DC.

  • aig-raiders

    JB,

    It’s really sad. I doubt the cycle will ever be broken.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Big Strong hindquarters are popular with all Breeders.

  • LA to TheBay

    At this point, its all speculation, correct?

    Guys look at where Allen was before and who he was coaching with and make assumptions, like Winston Moss was a lock for head coach with McDouble.

    Well, Allen now has access to more candidates through Big Reg, so I wouldn’t call it an automatic that he picks Smith or Thomas.

  • Just Win Baby

    If by root you mean most primitive, then you are completely contradicting yourself. Just saying.

  • aig-raiders

    Mistic,

    Nazis believed in evolution and were a big proponent of that. Obviously, you believe in evolution too based on your post of the original man. You think the original man is the greatest. The Nazis believed that the white man is the greatest since they have evolved further than the original man. Get it?

  • http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com RaiderChaos

    819.Albert Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    RaiderChaos, quit spamming the blog.

    _____________________

    Spam doesn’t respond ass clown.

  • J Hill

    Amtrak Specials????

    As in special train routes to Oakland on game days?

    Right now train schedule makes it a 2 day trip. No possible way to leave after the games ends.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    With the Raider fan base in LA, there’s no reason why the Raiders shouldn’t covet it and try to lock LA up, even if another team moved there. Work out deals with Amtrak, southwest, etc, to make it easy as possible for fans to get to that coliseum on Sunday.

  • SilverLining20

    LA to TheBay Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Adam Schefter said there are plans for it to be in an East LA parking lot, open to the public.

    ————-

    Cowboys grew a significant fan base in S. California, particularly in the Hispanic community, by training in Oxnard for so many years (and then later on in San Antonio, TX).

    It’s a joke but actually not such a bad idea.

    ——

    Could you imagine the crowds of thirsty NFL fans that would show up if they had it anywhere in LA county?

  • aig-raiders

    KoolKell Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Big Strong hindquarters are popular with all Breeders.
    ————-
    Yup. From what I learned, a good number of Koreans tend to have long backs and short legs. They were slaves so I assume bred that way to work harder.

  • marader508

    its official… 4 year deal

  • http://raiders.com Albert

    RaiderChaos Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    819.Albert Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    RaiderChaos, quit spamming the blog.

    _____________________

    Spam doesn’t respond ass clown.
    ——
    You are a charlatan just like Hue Jackson.

  • Dakota

    834.aig-raiders Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Big Strong hindquarters are popular with all Breeders.
    ————-
    Yup. From what I learned, a good number of Koreans tend to have long backs and short legs. They were slaves so I assume bred that way to work harder.
    +++++++++++

    Slaves to the Island of Japan?

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    J Hill, something to look into, that’s all. You could also have flight specials, hotel specials. Easy for Raiders to reach out to that industry and make deals. For years the Raiders have believed in selling themselves. That they don’t need to engage. It’s one of the reasons the Raiders have had so many financial troubles.

  • aig-raiders

    Later boys. Off to the gym. Big lift day. more caffeine pls!!!!!

  • JB

    aig-raiders Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    JB,

    It’s really sad. I doubt the cycle will ever be broken.
    ****************

    Which cycle? There seems to be multiple cycles running on this blog at any given time.

    I know personally I get tired of the racial & political arguments that seem to pop up all the time. This is a Raider blog and should, for it’s own good, stick to football without coloring aspects of it. Right now, the NFL is one of the most color blind organizations around. I guess some people are never happy or satisfied.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    For years the Raiders believed that the Raider image sells itself, rather.

  • http://raiders.com Albert

    From ESPN:

    Are the Kansas City Chiefs taking a page out of the Oakland Raiders’ playbook when it comes to former coach Todd Haley?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/39262/chiefs-refusing-to-pay-haley

  • aig-raiders
  • J Hill

    Big Strong hindquarters are popular with all Breeders.

    ——————————————————

    Yeah, most fellas like a nice arsse!

  • RaiderRetribution

    Jerry & Steve you got scooped by a girl;
    Kate Longsworth of csn just posted Allen signed a four year deal, it’s official.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    aig-raiders Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Also keep in mind that a very small percentage of black people were made slaves or born slaves.
    ——————-
    Mistic, Please excuse me. I didnt realize Black folks paid for their way to America from Africa.

    I was taught that they were kidnapped and came here because of slavery. And that they were bred based on their physical ability rather than the minds. (sarcasm)
    ============

    i know that is why i am here to educate you.

    1.) black people were amongst the very first people in the americas, way before the first slave ship in 1555 ( named the jesus). We are responsible for the oldest civilization in the americas, the olmecs. In fact our history here stretches so far back into antiquity it is truly unknown exactly when we arrived!! we have no birth record.

    2.) compared to our entire population world wide, only a small percentage of black people were slaves. in fact the reason they started the willie lynch program was because trying to capture slaves was far too expensive. The cost of trying to capture in Africa was to high as very few slave holders ever made it back to their ships. They were killed by black people defending their own. Ships were often lost at sea, due to revolts on board. Once here people born free would kill the masters and destroy the plantation. This was the reason for trying to BREED a slave as opposed to MAKING a slave out of free people.

    The school books lied to you and misrepresented the facts. they have made you believe we were just helpless canon fodder when in truth we fought tooth and nail and still to this day are fighting as the continued attack on my home land and for the minds of my people rages on.

    your excused, its not your fault you are a victim of propaganda

  • Dakota

    Thanks AIG….interesting.

  • jraider

    Is this a Raider blog, or did I stumble onto a FoxNews chat?

  • J Hill

    Gameday trains from Downtown LA to Oakland is a great idea. No question they would be filled.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    This slave conversation is neither interesting or provocative, in case that’s what any of you are going for.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    The Olmecs look more Mongol than African… but what the heck!

  • DKnight007

    820.YoungAmerican Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    789.YoungAmerican Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    4-year deal = front office now hiring coaches for real

    For as much as people saw Hue Jackson as “the chosen one” in the wake of Al’s death, even he only got a 2-year “prove it” deal.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hey Young,

    Who are you hoping to see Allen hire as his DC?

    I’m hoping he hires Bowles or Donatell as his DC.

    I think Thomas is too comfortable being a Queef and he is 70 years old. He may not want the added stress of being a DC.

    I’m not a fan of Richard Smith either.

    ——————-

    Not a fan of Richard Smith here, either. But if Allen designs the defense and Smith just calls the plays, it might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Bowles could be an option, but they have no connection to each other and they’re both secondary coaches.

    Del Rio would be best case scenario, but he might go work with his buddy Fox.

    Emmitt Thomas is best case scenario. He and Allen have a good relationship and Thomas has been a successful coordinator for a couple different teams. His age is a concern, but hey, LeBeau is 70 isn’t he?

    Don’t know much about Donatell.

    ^^^^^^^^
    I believe Allen worked under Donatell in Atlanta in 2005 and 2006.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    aig-raiders Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Mistic,

    Nazis believed in evolution and were a big proponent of that. Obviously, you believe in evolution too based on your post of the original man. You think the original man is the greatest. The Nazis believed that the white man is the greatest since they have evolved further than the original man. Get it?
    ===========

    at some point you always want to put words in my mouth, i dint say anything about evolution vs creationism. I only stated the facts as they are known, black people were the very first people on earth in other words the original man.

    I also clearly stated it doesnt make us better than anyone else, only gives us a unique post in the line of human kind.

    i never said anything about being “the greatest”

  • Dakota

    851.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    The Olmecs look more Mongol than African… but what the heck!
    +++++++++++++++++
    I don’t know….this Olmec thing does look a lot like Mike Brown….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hollowbaby.jpg

  • Seymour Bush

    LA to TheBay Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    So Pagano gets A+ and Allen gets a D?

    LOL. Some things will never change.
    ========================================

    There is no doubt that Chuck Pagano is a very solid hire for Indy. But A+ versus a D? Both come from similar circumstances. Both have ten years in the league, both have one year of coordinator experience and both coached DB’s. One had a much better personal collegiate career, coached defensive line at the pro level and also has a World Championship ring. That is our guy.

  • LA to TheBay

    J Hill Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    Gameday trains from Downtown LA to Oakland is a great idea. No question they would be filled.

    ————

    It takes like 5 hours to get from LA to Santa Maria (central coast, appx. half that time to drive it)… probably another 7 or 8 to get to the Bay.

    Not sure if that will fly.

  • LA to TheBay

    RE: 856….. appx. TWICE the time as driving*

  • Seymour Bush

    I believe Allen worked under Donatell in Atlanta in 2005 and 2006.
    ===============================

    This is true.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    The Olmecs look more Mongol than African… but what the heck!
    ==========

    try again Olmecs were black people with big lips and broad noses, and were acknowledged as being black by their offshoot cultures, aztec and maya. There are huge stone carved eads of the olmecs that are so old they cant be dated by modern science.

    Theye are very similar to the giant statues of angkor wat cambodia, were the stone statues clearly depict african features, as it is in india, and china.

    I know people dont like it but it isnt my fault.

  • jraider

    LA To TheBay Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    J Hill Says:
    January 26th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    Gameday trains from Downtown LA to Oakland is a great idea. No question they would be filled.

    ————

    It takes like 5 hours to get from LA to Santa Maria (central coast, appx. half that time to drive it)… probably another 7 or 8 to get to the Bay.

    Not sure if that will fly.
    LA to Santa = 2.5 hrs.

    SD to the bay – 7 hrs

  • LA to TheBay

    LOL, nm, got it right the first time.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com Sullivan44

    Props to President 0bama for being the better person and being the adult yesterday when meeting with a very agitated and confrontational governor. It’s a rough job. He handles it well.

  • LA to TheBay

    Jraider,

    On Amtrak??

    Is that non-stop?

    Used to take that trip a LOT (Surfliner). Think its a different route (inland vs. the 101/PCH) but that sounds hard to believe.

  • J Hill

    So you think it would take about 12 hours to get to the bay from downtown via train?

    Yeah, that’s not going to work.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    The Olmecs look more Mongol than African… but what the heck!
    ==========
    try again Olmecs were black people with big lips and broad noses, and were acknowledged as being black by their offshoot cultures, aztec and maya.

    ++++++++++++
    The theory that the Olmecs were of African origin popularized by Ivan van Sertima’s book They Came Before Columbus, have become well-known within popular culture, they are not considered credible by the vast majority of Mesoamerican researchers.

    …Not my fault the researchers dont agree.

  • http://raiders.com Albert