McKenzie has ‘handshake agreement’ with Allen
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, January 25th, 2012 at 5:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Spoke with several people at the Raiders since word broke that they had agreed to hire Dennis Allen as the replacement for fired head coach Hue Jackson. Every person interviewed said this is general manager Reggie McKenzie’s show, and they are waiting for word from him just like everyone else.
Allen and McKenzie reached agreement last night in Mobile, Ala., where they were to watch players practice in advance of the Senior Bowl. McKenzie was scheduled to return to Alameda today. No word on whether Allen stuck around for another day or two.
As of now, a news conference introducing Allen as the Raiders 18th coach — Art Shell served two stints — has not been scheduled. McKenzie told Comcast Bay Area via text message that he and Allen have a “handshake agreement” for Allen to be the Raiders new head coach.
It’s likely that Allen will sign the contract real soon and a news conference will take place before week’s end.
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January 25th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
first…they need to finalize that Sh1t already
January 25th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Oh and Welcome Allen
January 25th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Clock’s ticking. Eager to see who he hires on his staff. Still hoping for the Dolphins D coordinator to come over along with retaining Saunders on O.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
@daringantt Darin Gantt
Here’s a blast from the past. Appalachian State hires Alvis Whitted as its WR coach. Only his hands kept him from being a Pro Bowler.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Bruce Allen did well.
Dave Allen, most excellent comedian.
Dennis Allen, the way to pluck a division and NFL championship from the ashes.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Would love someone to explain this thinking once and for all:
Some posters keep talking about how “Hue was in COMPLETE control after week 4.”
Do these posters acknowledge that you can’t go find new DC’s mid-season, can’t change your entire D philosophy and teach it correctly mid-season, can’t go draft higher-IQ football players instead of just athletes mid-season, can’t bring in many quality free agents mid-season.
Or do these things not matter, and it’s expected that one can turn a defense around MIDWAY through a season, instead of through an off-season?
January 25th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Alex = Vomito ergo sum.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Allen has been contacted by The Washington RedForskins, they are offering the DC/ AHC job and 3.75 Mil a year.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
No word twisting, 666. Just FACTS.
Several media reports, in fact, just about every report pertaining to the Raiders’ HC situation, point to Winston Moss being “his guy”.
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Media reports are not always fact, but don’t allow that to alter your screetching hatred, MR
January 25th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
I think the most disappointing thing about Hue was his inability to adjust to what the other team was doing. I know it’s not all his fault, Al Davis was the head of football operations and when he departed there was no structure in place to help him. But if he was truly HC material he would have found a way to win one more game.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
1332.YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
@RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
Hearing lbs coach dean pees very likely to get ravens defensive coordinator job
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Not surprising and that makes sense for the Ravens.
That sucks, I was hoping Pees would be considered as the DC here with Raiders.
Slim chance though, since Allen has never worked with him before.
1347.DKnight007 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
1340.alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
djohnny
to be fair, the Raiders rarely announce anything before the rest of the press does, even when it’s official.
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Raiders PR department is a mess.
Can’t wait until Reggie cleans that dept up and fires John Herrera.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Reminds me of when Sean Payton was supposedly offered the job by Al, then told everyone and his brother about it, only to turn down the HC job… Let’s see if this drags out.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
3.. I hope we could get Bowles as well as our D coordinator but according to Mike McCoy. . The reason he did not land the Miami hc job is because he( McCoy’) was not willing to keep Bowles on his coaching staff… if this is true, I’m glad we didn’t get his dumb asss. . Bowles is a good defensive coach. Apparently philbin has no problem with Bowles. He got the job.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
twocents
do you expect the same out of a rookie HC as a veteran HC? Do you think John Harbaugh’s non-time-out gaff makes him unqualified? And that’s a vet.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Hue was a great coach for us and deserved a season with his own defensive coaches. McKenzie could have concentrated on the free agent market, rebuilding the infrastructure (personnel department), including scouting, and a cap guy, restructuring contracts
January 25th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
No Alex, I don’t think that.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
you’d feel the same about Lovie Smith’s inability to win one or two more games and make the playoffs?
January 25th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
or can you tell a broken season when you see one?
January 25th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Good post Artillery. We were so close.
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ArtilleryShell Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Hue was a great coach for us and deserved a season with his own defensive coaches. McKenzie could have concentrated on the free agent market, rebuilding the infrastructure (personnel department), including scouting, and a cap guy, restructuring contracts
January 25th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Shell.. I think hue had to go. After having that meltdown after the SD loss and firing coaches left n right.. mark davis had to say to himself. .” Who the hell do you think you are hue?”.. Reggie and hue would have started butting heads immediately. . I would like al Saunders to stay though..
January 25th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Y is Allen better than Hue? Def played very well for Broncos, but stats weren’t so great. However, they kept it close for Tebow from mid season on. However, I didn’t see a dominant def just one playing well except for patriots game
January 25th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
lol “Who the hell do you think you are, Hue?”
Umm, the head coach, who should have the ability to pick a different DC after we just blew a playoff season due to our 30th-ranked D.
Is that odd?
January 25th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Hue should have been fired simply for not having a better back up than Boller
January 25th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Saunders I hope stays too, Ghost. Hue shoulda disciplined McClain, I did lose some respect for him for that. I hope we don’t go back to a zone blocking scheme on offense, or adopt a totally passive bend but don’t break def
January 25th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
I’ll try to relate this word for word.
“On Tuesday, NFLN’s Michael Lombardi broke a report saying the Oakland Raiders had had agreed to make Denver Bronco’s DC Dennis Allen their next head coach. Dennis Allen then told the Broncos he had accepted the head coaching positon of the Raiders. But hold on…there has been no official confirmation from the Raiders, and as you know, nothing escapes the Black Hole. Stay tuned…”
-Andrew Siciliano on NFLN about an hour ago.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
fixed it for you Wickedjedi.
“Al Davis should have been fired simply for not having a better back up than Boller.”
January 25th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
# 23
Funny bad as Boller played, he should have gotten all the reps that week maybe a bad decision on Hues part to split reps with Palmer. Mind you, Boller sucks, but not 100% on him
January 25th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
it says something that NONE of the THREE QBs Al Davis put on our roster (JC, Boller, Pryor) have a future with our team.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Alex.. I assume you know hue started firing coaches without the owners approval. . The reason Reggie and Allen have a handshake agreement is because mark davis needs to sign off on him… hue was not the Guy having to pay the remainder of those fired coaches salaries. . Its mark davis the Guy who had to pony up that money.. mmm. . You figure hue should have let mark davis know..don’t you think??
January 25th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raiders also met with these players at the Senior Bowl today:
Quinton Coples
Melvin Ingram
Dwight Jones
DeQuan Menzie
Alfred Morris
January 25th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
All the pundits love to talk about how disfunctional the Raiders are, the joke of the NFL. Things have changed, it will take these idiots awhile to catch up.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Ghost
you mean Hue “wanted to” fire coaches. Obviously he couldn’t actually do it without the appropriate signatures and such.
And for wanting that, I don’t blame him one bit.
Hue had more passion for fixing the Raiders than Mark did.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Would ANYONE have blamed Mark if he’d simply said “Yep Hue, you’re right, all those guys on the D side need to go. Time to get some better coaches on that side.”
Again, if Mark had done that, we’d simply have praised him on here.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I think Hue has more passion for Hue than he has for football.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Alex.. you are correct in saying that hue has more passion than m davis.. but apparently hue thought he had Almighty power to do what he wanted. . The Guy was drunk with power after davis passed away. . He and Reggie would have locked horns immediately. . He had to go IMO. . But like I said I wish we could keep Saunders. .his contact runs thru next season..as far as Hue. . Why hasn’t he been able to land any job in the NFL yet?? Mmm? ? The Guy might have some character issues. .
January 25th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Ghost,
FWIW, rumors have Hue possibly replacing Cam as Baltimore’s OC.
Regardless of character issues, the guy was providing results, would have given us a legit DC, and likely won the AFC west a few times going forward.
You pass this up because he has character issues? Why?
January 25th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I would assume that MOST successful HCs think highly of themselves, very much so, and have ticked off or rubbed others the wrong way, especially when the “others” are leading a 30th ranked D in what should have been a special playoff season for Mr. Davis.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Like saying Harbaugh in SF has a big head, or character issues.
But he made the playoffs because the D kicked butt.
Anyone think they want him gone for his bull-headedness or sore demeanor after losses?
January 25th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raiders also met with these players at the Senior Bowl today:
Quinton Coples
Melvin Ingram
Dwight Jones
DeQuan Menzie
Alfred Morris
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Apart from the underrated Morris and reinstated Ingram, these are top tier draft picks…trade anyone?
January 25th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Menzie and those others are considered 3rd round picks. We’ll have a supplemental 3rd round pick.
Don’t think it means much.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Alex
Its no point in arguing with these guys. They don’t care that our off. went from 30th to tenth under Hue and our running game from 27th to 2nd. These guys actually give Saunders the credit, even though a season before Saunders arrived Hue had the same success on offense. He got to choose no one on his defensive staff and Hue actually reached out to Asomugha when he was a free agent before signing with the eagles
January 25th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I don’t know Alex, there are some people that strive to be successful by accomplishing something and then there are others that just try to BS their way to notoriety.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Menzie and those others are considered 3rd round picks. We’ll have a supplemental 3rd round pick.
Don’t think it means much.
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I had seen estimates of 1st round for Coples and Jones…Not sure if stock has fallen.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Would love to snag Menzie.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
twocents
read the post above yours (41) and realize that Hue was our most successful coach since Gruden.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
you don’t do running game from 27th to 2nd
because of Jason Campbell.
You kinda know your x’s and o’s.
You don’t score points off fake FGs even when the league knows your propensity for it, by BSing your way.
You kinda know your x’s and o’s.
You aren’t the FIRST HEAD COACH to give Jason Campbell a winning season because you bs through things.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Excited about the new era of Raider football. But i need to see the off coord, def coord and a draft and then the picture will become more clear
January 25th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Listen to what John Madden has to say regarding Dennis Allen. More importantly, Madden inadvertently tells us why Hue wasn’t successful here as the HC. The truth speaks loudly. I hope Dennis Allen seeks some advice every now & then from Madden. He’s still got it.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Here’s that link:
http://siriusxmsports.posterous.com/john-madden-host-of-madden-football-on-sirius-69500
January 25th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
There are players that need to be axed too, seymour and mcclain? Huff? Another LB?
January 25th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Perhaps I am mistaken and Hue will get a HC job and win a Super Bowl. We’ll have to wait and see.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Spoke with several people at the Raiders since word broke
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Several people, lol
Does that include the two people who put you on hold, and Trask’s secretary who took your message and threw it in the trash?
January 25th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
When did the Raiders sign NT Travis Ivey to the practice squad? I just noticed that.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Raiders for life Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
When did the Raiders sign NT Travis Ivey to the practice squad? I just noticed that.
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According to Raider website – January 3rd, 2012
January 25th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
JB (49) that Madden interview is sick!
Must watch as Madden and the host praise dennis Allen hire.
BIG THINGS NATION
January 25th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
That ivey signing could indicate some change on def line! Get rid of those bums
January 25th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
A couple of NT’s. a couple of OLB and we’ve got a 3-4 defense.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Aside from sources I think Allens’ the man because Mac stopped interviewing people days ago…
Granted, theres no signed contract far as we know but c’mon…
January 25th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
There’s a handshake verbal contract. They are all at the Senior Bowl scouting talent. They’ll sign the paperwork as soon as that’s over. Hopefully they’ve called Al Saunders & told him he’s still employed as the OC. I’d hate to lose him & have to start the offense all over again.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
No 3-4 defense happening.
Bronco’s had the 3-4, and Allen came in and promptly changed it to a 4-3.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
57.JB Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
A couple of NT’s. a couple of OLB and we’ve got a 3-4 defense.
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I was wondering the same thing. But if Ivey was signed around Jan. 3rd that would have been Hue….hmmm interesting. Anyways, I’m looking forward to seeing who McKenzie brings to the roster.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Broncos ran a 4-3 but von miller is more of a 3-4 lb….and that guy can ball
January 25th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Hopefully ( best case scenario ) kam wimbley is the raiders von miller
January 25th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raiders also met with these players at the Senior Bowl today:
Quinton Coples
Melvin Ingram
Dwight Jones
DeQuan Menzie
Alfred Morris
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Be nice if Melvin Ingram would be available during the draft. Hell of a player from Univ. of SC. Probably late 1st/early 2nd pick IMO
January 25th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
That is the type of player big reg and d allen will be after… The hybrid. Guys like von miller and mathews on gb. Look for them to look for players with the same attributes
January 25th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Why are they scouting talent when they have a 6 and a 7 round pick? Maybe a late 3rd comp pick. Yeah those picks should help…
January 25th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Big deal: we were 8/8 under Hue as an OC then H/C. Of course the offensive got a lift when JaMarcus was dismissed, with or without Hue or Cable. When McGlassToes finally decided he was going to run we received another boost, irregardless of Hue. The fact that Ford then Moore were drafted gave us a boost also.
We finally drafted some good O line components for which AL was responsible, and not Hue, finally giving us some sort of line.
Hue admitted when we lost to Buffalo he discovered the losing character of the team, and had neither the moxy nor intelligence to confront and manipulate a dying old man, whose face was full of running sores. (I wouldn’t have faulted Hue for applying a chokehold on AL, putting him to sleep early.)
Then Hue began making horrific mistakes in play calling, game management, clock management etc. which cost us games.
Worst yet, was Hue’s unwavering support for Jason Campbell who has neither the talent nor football moxy to lead us to the playoffs. After all JC’s bottom lip hangs down to his knees; he is an apt game manager but patently stupid. JC’s winning record derives mainly from the fact we played all bottom tier teams with him at the helm, that had losing records. That is nothing to shout about.
Hue’s most egregious negligent act was his hiring of Carson Palmer, which Hue claimed as the “greatest trade ever”: greatest trade for CP and Bengals on a washed up QB, injury prone, who gave up on his former team after earning $120M in 8 seasons. Palmer was no better than JC, was immobile, a statue in the pocket, couldn’t scramble and was completely non-elusive: thus high INT and fumble ratios, in failing to avoid the rush.
Palmer will never be better than he was this season. If CP still “has it” why did no other team pick him up?
As a result of the CP trade, Hue forewent the Raiders immediate future in draft picks and cash. Fact of the matter is Boller, if given a chance, and/or Pryor would have produced the same 8/8 figure.
Now then, Hue lied, exaggerated, misrepresented our chances in getting to the playoffs knowing full well that we wouldn’t make it: he admitted it in his loud press conference after the SD fiasco, then threw the entire team under the bus.
I for one believe we are well rid of Hue the Pimpin Magnificient. Fact is Hue is a bully: action cannot support his talk, cannot solve the trouble he himself created, runs like the yellow dog he is from trouble.
Of course, once he became ego-manical toward the end of the season, he sealed his own fate. So it is written.
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