Reminder to keep comments respectful
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, January 26th, 2012 at 10:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Some recent comments on this site crossed the line and were downright offensive. This is your forum to converse on all things Raiders. It’s a privilege, not a right. Keep it clean, respectful and within the bounds and things roll along without further moderation.
If things get out of hand, comments will be deleted, posters will be blocked and much-stricter controls will be put in place.
For the most part, you do an admirable job abiding by the groundrules and making this site the most viewed and popular around. Let’s keep it that way.
As always, feel free to contact myself or Jon Becker if you notice something that needs to be addressed.
Steve Corkran — scorkran@bayareanewsgroup.com
Jon Becker — jbecker@bayareanewsgroup.com
Steve Corkran
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January 26th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Wow, they finally posted their email address.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
What was it that you finally found offensive, all the N-word usage?
January 26th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Maybe all the personal threats by the poster, Method to My Madness?
January 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Corkran, please remember that political talk in this forum is a tradition and is reasonably related to raider football by way of the commerce clause.
…especially in an election year!
Carry on.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Steve,
You need to remove that dude John Tweedy. No place for him on this blog.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Gnite, Gents.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Steve,
You need to remove that dude John Tweedy. No place for him on this blog.
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Seconded. This is a Raiders blog. Al Davis, love him or hate him, despised racism in all its forms.
Racist conduct has no place on a forum dedicated to the team he loved so much.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Steve & John, better set your spam filters to intercept 80-90 emails a day from krappykell@kaneandassociates.com.
And please remember to buy my new solo album, Wrecks N Effect, dropping this year, word
January 26th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Raiderduck,
from you prev post, yeah I see BS loans from my brokers all the time. F&F are still being exploited every minute.
January 26th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Mr Beeecham,post 8,that is FUNNY,and please buy my Album,HaHaHaHa
January 26th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Who’s going to the Pig Bowl?
January 26th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
When or who was the last Raider HC to get a 4 year deal?
January 26th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Cant remember Raccoon. 4 years is a big deal. That means BigMac is committed to Allen for a long term.
January 26th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
If that is true,4 years,the players are on notice,Coach isnt goin anywhere,RAIDERS!
January 26th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
just because you get a 4 year contract doesnt mean youll last that long,,,,you do read the fine print.ask aso ..
florez was here awhile
January 26th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Respectful?? Haven’t you read the posts for years?? It’s like a shooting gallery half the time.
I don’t know what you mean by moderating, but I never saw any on this blog.
January 26th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Ron Paul 2012!!!!!
January 26th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
in defense of all the raider fans we have more passion for our team than your run in the mill ,but i have seen things on here that i would bet would never be said face to face
January 26th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
According to draftcountdown, we are observing RBs, OLBs, and DL @ the Senior Bowl.
January 26th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Raiders, politics, love this site but Al D. Davis with his ultra creepy Sandusky necrophilia posts all the time are beyond disturbing and some serious serial killer BS.
Clearly we all know who it really is.
Hope the Nation has a good week end ande congrats to our new Coach Allen.
All we can say is, welcome, and you better F’in WIN!!! lol!~
Seriously though, win…
January 26th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
20. Not in that order I would think…unless Mac is going to go bargain basement, trade DMC, let Bush walk and correctly thinks Taiwan is too injured and immature. But even then RB is not going to be our first pick of the draft.
Draft count seesm wrong on this one. They seem to be thinking we’re going 3-4. If we do, yeah but reality is we need help on OL and secondary more.
January 26th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Trolls have plagued this blog for years. JMac would address the problem indirectly but I like Cork’s approach instead. Need to take the same approach that McKenzie and Allen should take to correct the penalties and poor play on defense. No threats or warnings, just get rid of the perpetrators and move on.
January 26th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Darren Mcfadden Highlights 2011 http://youtu.be/UYmj2NGjBnw
January 26th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RAIDERS!!!!
January 27th, 2012 at 12:02 am
RAIDER OOOOO,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Hey Steve,
Anyway to let us know which comments are offensive?
January 27th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Raider O Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
According to draftcountdown, we are observing RBs, OLBs, and DL @ the Senior Bowl.
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Awesome
January 27th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Steve’s just upset because you guys call him lazy,lol
truth is,im surprised it took this long.
Anyhoo looking at prospects is all fine and well but what about coach Allens staff?
January 27th, 2012 at 12:44 am
the culture is already changing ….all the way down to the blogs! carry on team!
January 27th, 2012 at 1:04 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Steve,
You need to remove that dude John Tweedy. No place for him on this blog.
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Seconded. This is a Raiders blog. Al Davis, love him or hate him, despised racism in all its forms.
Racist conduct has no place on a forum dedicated to the team he loved so much.
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AMEN.
“Al was saying “Let it go, Man!! You’re holding back the game!!”
-Eldridge Dickey, QB, Oakland Raiders 1968
January 27th, 2012 at 1:06 am
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Corkran, please remember that political talk in this forum is a tradition and is reasonably related to raider football by way of the commerce clause.
…especially in an election year!
Carry on.
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Politics was the LAST thing on Al Davis’ mind.
it was about football…the game we all love. In no way is Democrap or Republitard or socialist or any other b.s. related to the Raiders.
January 27th, 2012 at 1:09 am
Congratulations to Dennis Allen. May he have instant & long lasting success.
Whip the slackers and cut the hackers.
January 27th, 2012 at 1:17 am
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January 27th, 2012 at 1:20 am
Could Todd Bowles be our DC?
Updating a previous report, the Miami Dolphins are expected to hire Cincinnati Bengals secondary coach Kevin Coyle as their new defensive coordinator.
January 27th, 2012 at 1:21 am
DID DORKRAN JUST ORDER THE CODEBLACK?
January 27th, 2012 at 1:22 am
Rise & Shine Nation! Have a great Friday and enjoy the weekend.
Coffee is brewing…
January 27th, 2012 at 1:35 am
7.RaiderDuck Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Steve,
You need to remove that dude John Tweedy. No place for him on this blog.
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Seconded. This is a Raiders blog. Al Davis, love him or hate him, despised racism in all its forms.
Racist conduct has no place on a forum dedicated to the team he loved so much.
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Amen to that.
January 27th, 2012 at 1:39 am
Odds are Mac and Allen alraedy have staff choices in mind. Cannot imagine any GM hiring a rook without some idea of concept and staff preferences to a 4 yr deal.
Allen at Mondays presser: “Thank you. I’d like to announce my first hire. OC Lane Kiffin and assistant HC Mike Silver…
January 27th, 2012 at 1:40 am
37. very nize! enjoy the week end!
January 27th, 2012 at 2:16 am
TO STEVE AND JON………..
While you’re keeping it clean do you think you can sort out the problem that I keep getting.
I can post for maybe 20/30 mins then my posts go missing.I don’t get a “you’re banned” message.I don’t get a “you’ve already said that” message.My posts just go missing and it’s pi$$ing me off.
My geek of a brother in law says that it’s from your end.Will you please sort the problem out.
Thank you.
January 27th, 2012 at 2:23 am
Morning fellas!
Steve, damn good thing to give the folks a reminder..
I havnt joined in on football talks recently because of all the noise!
January 27th, 2012 at 2:24 am
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Corkran, please remember that political talk in this forum is a tradition and is reasonably related to raider football by way of the commerce clause.
…especially in an election year!
Carry on.
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I second that..
January 27th, 2012 at 2:25 am
Neil B..
yup its on their end.. I think the hamsters running the server sometime make a glitch on purpose!
and we all know you wouldnt get banned!
January 27th, 2012 at 2:26 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 1:20 am
Could Todd Bowles be our DC?
Updating a previous report, the Miami Dolphins are expected to hire Cincinnati Bengals secondary coach Kevin Coyle as their new defensive coordinator.
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I’ve read other post the same thing here, and they have ties so why not?
January 27th, 2012 at 2:37 am
Corky killed MR.
Long live Corky!
January 27th, 2012 at 3:25 am
Rise n shine (yawning),,,,racist comments on this blog site,, who wouldve known,,exactly why I post less these days. There’s got to be a place where civilized football discussions take place.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:15 am
Wow! It looks like Steve put the bottle down and finally took some time to read his blog. Why the sudden interest Steve? I bet Becker made you do it.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:17 am
Any word on coaching hires by Allen ?… Or perspective hires ?…
Really wanna know who’s gonna run the D ….
January 27th, 2012 at 4:42 am
Thanks Steve. Kick out the hijackers and let’s stick to football.
January 27th, 2012 at 4:51 am
Test:
Immolate Jon Condo!
Trade the spoiled quitter DMAC!
Jimmy Carter for the HOF!
January 27th, 2012 at 5:23 am
Any inside information on who Allen’s people are going to be? Who’s staying, who’s going, and who he’s bringing in?
January 27th, 2012 at 5:30 am
I’m looking for the same info Raiderbuck, haven’t been able to find anything confirmed or even a solid rumor yet…Ihope we get Todd Bowles as DC and keep Saunders as OC
January 27th, 2012 at 5:38 am
R8drinOK Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 5:30 am
I’m looking for the same info Raiderbuck, haven’t been able to find anything confirmed or even a solid rumor yet…Ihope we get Todd Bowles as DC and keep Saunders as OC
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All I’ve heard is Emmet Thomas the secondary coach from KC as possible DC – but not much after the official report.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:45 am
KC secondary was great last season..would be great to have him and Bowles, Someone on the board said Shannon Sharpe rumored we are after the broncos LB coach Richard Smith as well.
January 27th, 2012 at 5:52 am
The comments I find most offensive are all the one’s clamoring for Hue Jackson still.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Steve & Jon just delivered the knockout punch to all the haters, clown & d-bags.
I love it!
Jerry Mac never would have had the balls to do this.
Corkran > McDonald 24/7
January 27th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
No word yet on anything huh?
January 27th, 2012 at 6:10 am
55.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 5:52 am
The comments I find most offensive are all the one’s clamoring for Hue Jackson still.
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Funny.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:12 am
The comments I find most offensive are all the one’s clamoring for Hue Jackson still.
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JFB,
does that mean Chris, BCZ & Marley got banned?
January 27th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Don’t forget 510 Raider
January 27th, 2012 at 6:18 am
What do you guys think our REAL needs are this offseason, and what are the positions you WANT upgraded.
Offensive Needs: RT, RB
- I think the only position of NEED is aRT to replace Barnes, whether its Heyer, Barksdale or someone not on the roster. BCampbell will be gone, out of the NFL by the end of camp. Just my opinion.
- We need a RB to replace Bush. Someone is going to give him more money than he is rightfully worth. I think some cheap alternatives could be BJGE, Ryan Grant, Mike Tolbert or Khalil Bell.
Offensive wants: LG (to move Wiz to center) or C upgrade, TE, posession receiver
-Either a guard to replace Wiz as we move him to Center or a better Center and keep Wiz at guard, either way, I would like an upgrade here. Carlisle is serviceable for another year.
-I would like to see us upgrade our TE position with a more dynamic tight end. Our 12 and 22 personnel doesn’t really create much in the way of match up problems at TE.
-Not crapping on our WR’s but I still think we need a veteran possession type receiver. A big body, fight for the ball kind of guy, who will also roll coverage away from our younger guys. Very low on the list of priorities.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Get em Cork!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:19 am
When Cable left, I told everyone Hue’s biggest challenge would be to continue on with what Cable had success with.
Playing tough down the stretch (epic fail), dominating in the division (fail), solid O-line play (I’ll say Hue succeeded here). Of course 95% of the posters told me that Cable did nothing and all credit should go to Hue. I said Hue has to watch out about being too cute, only Armond was in agreement with me.
Well now, Allen needs to continue on the things Hue succeeded on, scoring offensively, the tricky ST plays, solid O-line play, and ability to get the ball to our WR’s.
And improve his many failures, no-shows on the road, penalties and discipline, horrific game and clock management.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:21 am
does that mean Chris, BCZ & Marley got banned?
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No I dropped the HJax thing awhile ago. Like I said when he was fired, I didn’t like it, but sitting here whining about it ain’t bringing him back. Peace out Hue, Dennis, what can you do for me now!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Todd Haley was fired “for cause”
Chiefs refuse to pay him the balance of his salary
hot dang!
KC is dysfunctional
January 27th, 2012 at 6:21 am
I agree with all of the people that want that tweety clown gone!!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:23 am
THERE ARE SOME IN HERE WHO’S LIFE WOULD TRULY BE OVER IF THEY RECIEVED THE BLOG DEATH SENETENCE..GOOD DAY EVERYONE..COFFEE & BREAKFAST ON ME THIS MORNING.START THE TAB..
January 27th, 2012 at 6:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Todd Haley was fired “for cause”
Chiefs refuse to pay him the balance of his salary
hot dang!
KC is dysfunctional
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I was thinking the same thing!!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:24 am
The Browns had narrowed their search for an offensive coordinator down to two men: Mike Sherman and Brad Childress.
With Sherman expected to land in Miami, well, you can guess where this is going.
-PFT
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who are the Raiders courting?
January 27th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Biggest needs are:
-RT (weakest link of our Offense)
-S (back end of defense was horrific)
-OLB (Curry is great with the play in front of him, terrible otherwise;Wimbley is out of position at times as an OLB)
-TE (need a solid TE that doesn’t make $5 million a year)
January 27th, 2012 at 6:25 am
And improve his many failures, no-shows on the road, penalties and discipline, horrific game and clock management.
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Aside from the Miami and GB games, we were much better on the road this year than we have been in a lot of years. Won the 3 division games, Won @ Houston and Minnesota, and played tough at Buffalo and should have won (no way you are pinning that melt down on Hue, he called damn near a perfect game, that one is on the Defensive players)
I think we were much worse at home than on the road.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:27 am
I said the “no-shows” on the road, especially down the stretch.
Not saying it got worse under Hue than years before, but it was still a problem, and still needs to be improved upon.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Thanks Dirt Lot! Already starting…
January 27th, 2012 at 6:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:24 am
The Browns had narrowed their search for an offensive coordinator down to two men: Mike Sherman and Brad Childress.
With Sherman expected to land in Miami, well, you can guess where this is going.
-PFT
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who are the Raiders courting?
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I’m sure they have a plan,….. don’t they? The Raiders need to hire a PR person to handle things like this, it’s arguing with family and they don’t talk to you for a while.
Reggie needs to get this done so they can concentrate on recruiting, get the people we need for the price we need.
Again I’m sure they are doing a ton of stuff behind the scenes, but that’s not helping my anxiety,…
January 27th, 2012 at 6:33 am
I’m hoping Allen was scouting for his coaching staff while in Mobile also! Or Reggie gave him some ideas because he has interviewed another Defensive guy and a few Offensive guys…or get a DC and keep Saunders! Well…
January 27th, 2012 at 6:34 am
AIG mentioned Dat Ngyuen for LB coach…hey, why not!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:39 am
70.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Biggest needs are:
-RT (weakest link of our Offense)
-S (back end of defense was horrific)
-OLB (Curry is great with the play in front of him, terrible otherwise;Wimbley is out of position at times as an OLB)
-TE (need a solid TE that doesn’t make $5 million a year)
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Our whole defense was horrendous, I think with better coaching Huff and Branch are an above average combo at safety. Huffs injury plagued season really hurt, Giordano was on the field WAY too much. We DEFINITELY need better depth behind them.
I agree we need to upgrade over Curry, he is quality depth, or a guy you would stick in in gl/short yardage packages, because he is good at attacking the run. He shouldn’t be asked to play coverage, unless its covering the screen game or a FB maybe.
I like Boss at TE, he was just way under utilized in Hue’s offense. I will admit, the great blocking skills he was rumored to have in NY didn’t materialize here. He was equally as pathetic a blocker as Miller. I think he is adequate but we need to upgrade over meyers.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Bcz24, There are a lot of FA RB’s out there and I’m sure that’s the direction we will go as Bush will get a solid payday somewhere and step out of DMC’s shadow. Ryan Grant is a strong possibility.
AS for Bruce Campbell… 3rd year coming up, Mario Henderson was a spectator his first 2 years and tehn had a solid 3rd. Maybe Bruce comes out of his shell this year? Barnes needs to be replaced as the starter as he should be retained for depth only.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:42 am
I really want Dat on the staff!!!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I like Boss as well, until I realized we pay him more than Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Jermichael Finley and Jimmy Graham COMBINED!!
Worst contract on the roster.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Glad that bizarre slavery debate got the attention of the mods. That was over the top.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:45 am
I think Curry is too talented to give up on so soon.
Boss and Myers at TE are good enough to be brought back in 2012 with other glaring holes needing immediate repair.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:45 am
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I mean, why do the Raiders take their time in reporting everything? Always a big secret, denying reports only to announce a week or 2 later. I thought they would be more fan friendly after Al passed.
Why no official announcement of Allen? Reggie has been back since yesterday from what i read.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Bruce Campbell…lol, always liked that name…Evil Dead!
I hope he comes through this year! Beast at the combine, hope he beasts it on the O line this year! We’ll see!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Fistbumps for Cork and Becker. Long overdue.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:48 am
There was no denying the report of Allen, just Jerry said that 2 Raider officials couldn’t confirm the signing! Jerry tweeted that maybe nothing was said because nothing happens without Reggie now! I read press conference on Monday. Maybe with a DC or OC in place as well…??? I don’t know, I do wish they announce it already though so we can move on to the offseason!
January 27th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Neilb, you really asked your brother in law about your comments being deleted here? And you’re call him a geek?
January 27th, 2012 at 6:49 am
The RB situation is what i’m going to be looking for. Gonna be interesting to see what route they go here.
I think we need to pick up another vet in FA and possibly draft a rookie in case Bush leaves.
TJ has not showed me anything except for keeping the bench warm. Not a good start for him, taking after his mentor.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I like Boss as well, until I realized we pay him more than Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Jermichael Finley and Jimmy Graham COMBINED!!
Worst contract on the roster.
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That’s not entirely fair, since all those guys you list are working under rookie contracts, which have always been low outside of first rounders (which none of them were)
Plus, Boss was criminally underutilized by Hue.
Won’t exactly shed tears if he’s not back, but there are worse contracts on the roster.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Deja,
Our owner has only been owner for 3 months. Our GM has only been GM for a couple of weeks. Sounds to me like the old guard is running the p.r. It’s not rocket science as to why they’re slowing down the process. Regime change doesn’t bode well with them. Regardless, Mark and Hue are in motion. New HC signed to 4 year deal.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Not Mark and Hue, Mark and Reggie, I meant. Have a field day with it, haters.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:52 am
With Big Mac supposed strengths are talent, we’ll see what he does soon…Soon?
January 27th, 2012 at 6:52 am
I think they will try to bring Bush back, under reasonable contract talks.
I don’t think Bush is going to make huge money on the market.
I think Darren only has 1 year left on his deal (maybe an option for 2013??), so if you give Bush 3 years, it will protect us moving forward if Darren continues to get hurt or Reggie moves on from him.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Sounds to me like Allen was signed when first reports said he was. The way it’s working in Oakland right now is, just because the Raiders aren’t confirming it, doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Mark hasn’t had a chance to clean house with the p.r. department yet. Now that he has his GM and HC in place, it’s review time for these clowns.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:56 am
That’s not entirely fair, since all those guys you list are working under rookie contracts, which have always been low outside of first rounders
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With all due respect, that is kind of my point.
You can get TE’s who are just as good if not better than Boss, in the 2nd-4th round range, pay them around 1 million a year and have more cap flexibility.
I just can’t see paying Boss, who is coming dangerously close to curtains on his career with all these concussions, that type of salary next year.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:56 am
I’d like to see Herrera gone and then breaking news that him and Kawakami traded blows…LOL
January 27th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Sully,
Go back to bed, nobody cares.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:57 am
You can get TE’s who are just as good if not better than Boss, in the 2nd-4th round range, pay them around 1 million a year and have more cap flexibility.
I just can’t see paying Boss, who is coming dangerously close to curtains on his career with all these concussions, that type of salary next year.
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Fair enough, I see your point better now.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:58 am
19.Raider O Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
According to draftcountdown, we are observing RBs, OLBs, and DL @ the Senior Bowl.
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Can’t think of any better positions to be observing at this point.
Front 7 blows, and our insurance policy RB is a FA.
McKenzie already scoring points with me.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:59 am
I’ll bet you anything Kawakami would kick Herrera’s ass. Herrera was shaking during that confrontation. Watch the video. Herrera’s a wannabe. He was the most scared person in that room. Kawakami could have just flinched at him and yelled, “Boo!!”, and Herrera would have crapped his pants.
January 27th, 2012 at 6:59 am
ou can get TE’s who are just as good if not better than Boss, in the 2nd-4th round range, pay them around 1 million a year and have more cap flexibility.
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With all due respect to you, guys like Finely, Gronk, Hernandez and Graham are rare talents at the TE position.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:02 am
There are guys making waaay too much money all over the roster. Do you really think Reggie will spend one of the few draft picks on a TE when it’s not a real position of need?
Here’s his contract:
8/5/2011: Signed a four-year, $16 million contract. The deal contains $8 million guaranteed, including a $3 million signing bonus. 2012: $2 million, 2013: $3.5 million, 2014: $4.5 million, 2015: Free Agent
January 27th, 2012 at 7:03 am
The free agent pool at TE outside of Finely (who will be staying in GB) and Fred Davis (likely to be resigned in Was) includes no players that would be an upgrade for us…
January 27th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Boss at $2 million is very fair.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:05 am
The free agent Tackle pool likes awfully weak too. IMO Demetrius Bell is the best FA tackle out there this year.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:05 am
102.Carl Weathers Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:02 am
There are guys making waaay too much money all over the roster. Do you really think Reggie will spend one of the few draft picks on a TE when it’s not a real position of need?
Here’s his contract:
8/5/2011: Signed a four-year, $16 million contract. The deal contains $8 million guaranteed, including a $3 million signing bonus. 2012: $2 million, 2013: $3.5 million, 2014: $4.5 million, 2015: Free Agent
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Yeah, that is a deal we can live with, at least for next year.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:05 am
The FA guard pool looks much better.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:06 am
lol. It’s comical, really.
When Davis started having problems with Kiffin, Davis’s loyalists credited Kiffin’s few wins early on that season to Tom Cable’s offensive line.
When Cable fell out with Al, Davis’s loyalists credited Hue Jackson with the improvement to 8-8.
When Hue Jackson ruffled their feathers by taking control of a rudderless ship, they credited Al Saunders with Hue’s success.
I’m guessing as soon as Saunders angers them with a west coast passing attack and 11 wins, they’ll credit one of his assistants.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:09 am
108.Sullivan44 Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:06 am
lol. It’s comical, really.
When Davis started having problems with Kiffin, Davis’s loyalists credited Kiffin’s few wins early on that season to Tom Cable’s offensive line.
When Cable fell out with Al, Davis’s loyalists credited Hue Jackson with the improvement to 8-8.
When Hue Jackson ruffled their feathers by taking control of a rudderless ship, they credited Al Saunders with Hue’s success.
I’m guessing as soon as Saunders angers them with a west coast passing attack and 11 wins, they’ll credit one of his assistants.
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I am sure all the credit will go to Herrera, for making sure things remain running “Al’s Way”, despite the new coaching staff, GM etc.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Curtis Lofton would be a HUGE upgrade over ROMAC at MLB. I would also like to look at Chris Gocong. He is a beast at Sam in the running game (anybody watch when he stuck Mendenhall at the goalline 3 times in a row). Signing him could move Wimbley full time to DE maybe. I would also like to look at Gary Guyton from NE, he is a very solid LB and wouldnt cost much
January 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am
McKenzie’s Overpaid Cut Target List
1. Routt
2. McClain
3. Seymour
4. Wimbley
5. Huff
January 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am
John Herrera is an accomplished martial artist and would have easily disposed of Kawakami.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Moral of the story, Davis fans will never give the head coach the credit.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Then why was herrera shaking in that video, johnny? He couldn’t even talk.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:12 am
McKenzie’s Overpaid Cut Target List
1. Routt
2. McClain
3. Seymour
4. Wimbley
5. Huff
Not saying all 5 have to go, just one or two to make a point to the remaining slackers. I would like it to be Seymour and McClain personally.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:14 am
So, you have to wonder if the criticism of Hue Jackson is part of this mentality, blame the head coach for everything, give the head coach no credit, etc. Got to take it with a grain of salt. Same people in here that are critical of Hue will turn on Allen midway into this season. McKenzie too. Mark, even.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:14 am
112.djohnnyg Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am
John Herrera is an accomplished martial artist and would have easily disposed of Kawakami.
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Watching non-stop re-runs of the Karate Kid Part II and American Ninja in his office between issuing disinformation does not qualify one as a martial artist.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:15 am
112.djohnnyg Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am
John Herrera is an accomplished martial artist and would have easily disposed of Kawakami.
Could be, but how you know Kawakami isn’t one too? My guess would be what he told Herrera that he would love to own a part of this org if he got punched…but, still!
January 27th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Packers already had Jermichal Finley at TE, and they drafted 3, count them 3, TE’s in last years draft.
McKenzie loves himself some TE’s.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Could be, but how you know Kawakami isn’t one too?
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Is that a racial stereotype, lol?
January 27th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Reminder to keep comments respectful
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F*ck you.
LOL.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Finnegan, Brent Grimes, Eric Wright, Rashean Mathis, Brandon Carr, Carlos Rogers should be on our CB watch list. Im sure a few will be too pricey, or stay with their current teams, but there is a nice pool of CB talent available.
I would also love to sign Tom Zbikowski at safety for depth and his special teams play. Laron Landry would be a nice pick up, maybe cheap too because of his injury this year.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:29 am
120.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Could be, but how you know Kawakami isn’t one too?
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Is that a racial stereotype, lol?
LOL, I know many Asians that aren’t martial artists…
January 27th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Packers already had Jermichal Finley at TE, and they drafted 3, count them 3, TE’s in last years draft.
McKenzie loves himself some TE’s.
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I only see 2, in the 5th & 7th rounds. Finley was coming off a serious injury so they weren’t certain he’d be healthy.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Wonder if Le’ron McClain gets resigned in KC. I would love to bring him our way. He is Romacs cousin, maybe he could whip his ass into shape too.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Glad to hear some moderation is coming.
Tweedy definitely has to go.
I played ball in HS and AZFL.
Wrestled in college.
Never saw any racism.
It has no place in sports, or sports discussion. Unless it’s an actual topic like the Jimmy the Greek implosion years ago.
Couldn’t believe how racist some of these f@ks were getting. New names. Mostly Tweedy.
Most of us ignored him. You know he just wants a reaction.
What really surprised me was who was agreeing with him. Some Names who’ve been in here awhile.
Anyway, Dmac’s never played a full season and you always have to keep someone expensive who can step in. (Bush)
So cut the cord and get some durable RB’s. they’re out there. You got a line that opens holes and you can just plug a big RB in. already got a good FB.
Remeber Van Egan and Hubbard? Damn that was fun. And they were durable.
And get a second receiving tight end. There’s more out there, since colleges have integrated the receiving gigantic tight end into their offenses. it’s working well for NE.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Boss was criminally underutilized by Hue.
Won’t exactly shed tears if he’s not back, but there are worse contracts on the roster.
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Agreed with PA!
Carson Palmer and whoever the new OC is, will make sure KB gets his touches
January 27th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Hello boys
January 27th, 2012 at 7:40 am
You can get TE’s who are just as good if not better than Boss, in the 2nd-4th round range, pay them around 1 million a year and have more cap flexibility.
I just can’t see paying Boss, who is coming dangerously close to curtains on his career with all these concussions, that type of salary next year.
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solid comeback by JFB!
I heart the AM crew ….
January 27th, 2012 at 7:41 am
test
January 27th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Dakota Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:12 am
McKenzie’s Overpaid Cut Target List
Not saying all 5 have to go, just one or two to make a point to the remaining slackers. I would like it to be Seymour and McClain personally.
Weasel: Definitely those 2. D-Line got better since Seymour’s arrival but I think some of his idiot penalties may have actually lost a couple of games.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Dakota Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am
McKenzie’s Overpaid Cut Target List
1. Routt
2. McClain
3. Seymour
4. Wimbley
5. Huff
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Keep McClain. He’s only 22 and has never had a real DC that he’s had to answer to. Needs to step up but too young to give up on.
Keep Seymour and get rid of TK. Seymour knows how to win. 8-8 both years as a Raider. 3 SB Rings and a leadership attitude. TK is an offsides machine and we are always abysmal against the run with him.
Wimbley: Move to DE and get after the qb
Routt: Bye Bye or restructure. Not a playmaker. Ever
Huff: Also bye bye. Not a play maker but if he restructures could provide some depth.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:47 am
-TE (need a solid TE that doesn’t make $5 million a year)
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You’re trying to phugg with me this morning, aren’t you?!?!
Cut Boss.
Move Reece to TE.
Gordon is a BEAST!
Meyers is solid/reliable.
Ausberry back to WR.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Gigantic leaping tight ends with huge freaking hands. They’re cheap.
There’s plenty of them in the draft.
Hell, as long as they’re airborne when they catch it, they can’t get hit till they get their footing.
Can’t be smacking a defenseless receiver.
DB’s get hurt trying to hit them once they land.
It’s just physics.
Big vs small.
Seams and shallow crossing patterns all day.
Teams that do it are killing people.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:53 am
would also love to sign Tom Zbikowski at safety for depth and his special teams play. Laron Landry would be a nice pick up, maybe cheap too because of his injury this year.
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Tyvon Branch may have played his last down as a Raider.
HE might be your cap casualty.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:56 am
135.
We have several people we should let get away before we let Branch get away. I say let Bush walk and franchise Branch if we have to. He’s about the only guy on our D that could start for a lot of other teams.
January 27th, 2012 at 7:59 am
132.
You makes some good points about Seymour.
This thing with McClain in Alabama.
The face punch I can understand. But what kind of person fires a gun next to someone’s head just to mess w him?
Maybe he’s salvagable. Got a bad feeling though.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Reese at TE?
I like that.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Finnegan, Brent Grimes, Eric Wright, Rashean Mathis, Brandon Carr, Carlos Rogers should be on our CB watch list. Im sure a few will be too pricey, or stay with their current teams, but there is a nice pool of CB talent available.
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I wouldn’t mind anyone on this list. I would love Finnegan, i love his swagger and physical play. He get’s into the head of WR’s, ie..Andre Johnson and takes them out of their game.
Restructure Routt and let him be the #2 CB and let the young guys develope. Everyone has their man that they dislike, Mine is Routt. He irritates the hell out of me but has gotten better. The stupid penalties he commits gets me going. Always holding, grabbing beyond 5 yds. What was it like 17 penalties on him alone? Geesh!
January 27th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I know we can’t cross the line, but can we touch the line? How about sniff the line?
January 27th, 2012 at 8:06 am
There are guys making waaay too much money all over the roster. Do you really think Reggie will spend one of the few draft picks on a TE when it’s not a real position of need?
Here’s his contract:
8/5/2011: Signed a four-year, $16 million contract. The deal contains $8 million guaranteed, including a $3 million signing bonus. 2012: $2 million, 2013: $3.5 million, 2014: $4.5 million, 2015: Free Agent
The free agent pool at TE outside of Finley (who will be staying in GB) and Fred Davis (likely to be resigned in Was) includes no players that would be an upgrade for us…
Boss at $2 million is very fair.
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Leaning towards PA, BCZ, CW & Dakota here … sorry JFB
although I agree that another shot or two to the coconut and he could be eating soup for the rest of his life. Didn’t we say the same thing about Zach Miller?
January 27th, 2012 at 8:07 am
138.weaselbit Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Reese at TE?
I like that.
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Hahahaha funny stuff.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:08 am
I think it’s going to take us some time to get rid of the dead weight. It took ten long crappy years to get the contracts typed up, it’s going to take at least three years to get rid of some of them.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:11 am
wow. what happened? who went ballistic? why the reminder to keep it clean?
Forget about restructuring Routt. Set an example and cut him. Give Mclain very little room, he continues being a spoiled brat, cut his ax!
January 27th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Weasel
On the McClain front I have some concerns as well but a couple things stand out.
A. They never found a weapon. Doesnt mean it didnt happen, but gonna be pretty hard to get a conviction without a weapon.
B. That picture of McClain. Some see it as the arrogance of a rich guy. I see it as a guy who is so amused at being charged for something he didnt do that he finds it hilarious. At least thats my hope.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am
McClain is not as advertized. That damnned Saban said he was the smartest player he ever coached…Truth be told, the kid is not high on effort and is miles away from reading plays fast enough to make up for his lack of speed.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I say we keep Kelly he is a true raider he is top 8 dts and cutting him really would hurt us than not. We need depth so if we can get some rotation guys we will be better off . We already paid him all the big $ so hes not that exp. If McClain was a decent lb and could hold down the second level we wouldn’t be pointing fingers at seymore and Kelly.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Curtis Lofton would be a HUGE upgrade over ROMAC at MLB.
Finnegan, Brent Grimes, Eric Wright, Rashean Mathis, Brandon Carr, Carlos Rogers should be on our CB watch list.
I would also love to sign Tom Zbikowski at safety for depth and his special teams play. Laron Landry would be a nice pick up, maybe cheap too because of his injury this year.
Wonder if Le’ron McClain gets resigned in KC. I would love to bring him our way
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BCZ,
I like where your head is at on Fridays!
far cry from the “we’re stuck with who we got on Defense” mentality you displayed earlier in the week
January 27th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Bring in Singletary! Those LBs in Baltimore and SF can read plays like gypsies!
January 27th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Packers already had Jermichal Finley at TE, and they drafted 3, count them 3, TE’s in last years draft.
McKenzie loves himself some TE’s.
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Hard to know how much of that was McKenzie.
Could be Ted Thompson or Mike McCarthy that has the TE fetish in Green Bay …
January 27th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am
McClain is not as advertized. That damnned Saban said he was the smartest player he ever coached…Truth be told, the kid is not high on effort and is miles away from reading plays fast enough to make up for his lack of speed.
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I’ll give McClain one more shot, but right now he’s looking like another Brian Bosworth: A good college linebacker on a great college defense that made him look like a great linebacker. As soon as he leaves that scheme and supporting personnel, his weaknesses are magnified.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am
McClain is not as advertized. That damnned Saban said he was the smartest player he ever coached…Truth be told, the kid is not high on effort and is miles away from reading plays fast enough to make up for his lack of speed.
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McClain might still be the smartest player Saban has ever coached, but that’s an argument that even a touch of stupidity could be a good thing for a player.
A lot of smart guys will take that split second to stop and overthink and that is killer in a game as fast as pro football. Just be instinctive and go.
Give me the dumbazz who barely knows the ABCs and multiplication tables who will just go out there and react.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:22 am
VOTE NO IN LA TIMES POLL ASKING IF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS SHOULD MOVE TO LA!
The Raiders spent 12 years in LA, but were born & have spent 39 years in Oakland. Mark Davis says he wants to build a new stadium in Oakland, but if it can’t get done he’ll move the team to Santa Clara, or LA or where ever he can get a new stadium for the Raiders, LA Times & espnLA is doing a poll to see how many people want the Raiders in LA, in order to lure the Raiders to Los Angeles . Please vote no & tell another Real OAKLAND RAIDERS FAN
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
January 27th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I say cut Kelly, for the same reason teams cut Albert Haynesworth. He may have a good play every so often, but he does not care about winning, he laughs it up after looses, and sets a bad example for the rest of the D. You can get the similar production for a minimum wage vet without all the drama.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:26 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I say we keep Kelly he is a true raider he is top 8 dts and cutting him really would hurt us than not. We need depth so if we can get some rotation guys we will be better off . We already paid him all the big $ so hes not that exp. If McClain was a decent lb and could hold down the second level we wouldn’t be pointing fingers at seymore and Kelly.
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Kelly has been with us for what?? 8 years?? Whats our combined record those 8 years???
Comical to stick with a guy thats damn near 30 that always jumps offsides and has been a member of a defense that ALWAYS is in the bottom 3rd of the league against the run but cut a guy thats 22, was a consensus 1st rd pick, that won a NC in college and has never been under .500 in his NFL career.
Just silly.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I say cut Kelly, for the same reason teams cut Albert Haynesworth. He may have a good play every so often, but he does not care about winning, he laughs it up after looses, and sets a bad example for the rest of the D. You can get the similar production for a minimum wage vet without all the drama.
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Exactly Macho Man. Kelly is a cancer. Only cares about sacks and paydays, not about wins/losses.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:29 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am
McClain is not as advertized. That damnned Saban said he was the smartest player he ever coached…Truth be told, the kid is not high on effort and is miles away from reading plays fast enough to make up for his lack of speed.
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McClain might still be the smartest player Saban has ever coached, but that’s an argument that even a touch of stupidity could be a good thing for a player.
A lot of smart guys will take that split second to stop and overthink and that is killer in a game as fast as pro football. Just be instinctive and go.
Give me the dumbazz who barely knows the ABCs and multiplication tables who will just go out there and react.
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Horrible comment. How many “dumbazz” players do you think NE has drafted in the last 10 years?? To say that a smart FB player is a step behind a dumb football player in terms of reacting is maybe the least intelligent thing I’ve ever seen in this blog. And thats saying something.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Wow. That poll about moving the team to LA is close! 50/50. what does that tell me? That we should most definitely cut Routt, Kelly and Mclain!
January 27th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Anybody in here a soccer fan? where is la milicia?
January 27th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Cut Boss.
Move Reece to TE.
Gordon is a BEAST!
Meyers is solid/reliable.
Ausberry back to WR.
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Jhill & JFB are in lockstep on the TE issue, I see.
Boss’ biggest issue was not getting enough opportunities … he’s way more talented than Myers, Gordon & Ausberry! He’s the only dual threat we’ve got. He can block & catch. We don’t have many draft picks this year and I’d rather spend them on bigger NEEDS. If we get some undrafted rookie or cheap free agent that matches or outplays Boss? Fine, get rid of him! We’re not tied at the hip, but he’s far from being an issue. Oakland has bigger fish to fry !!!
January 27th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Testing 1…2…3…
January 27th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Boss’ biggest issue was not getting enough opportunities … he’s way more talented than Myers, Gordon & Ausberry! He’s the only dual threat we’ve got. He can block & catch. We don’t have many draft picks this year and I’d rather spend them on bigger NEEDS. If we get some undrafted rookie or cheap free agent that matches or outplays Boss? Fine, get rid of him! We’re not tied at the hip, but he’s far from being an issue. Oakland has bigger fish to fry !!!
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Agreed.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:38 am
far cry from the “we’re stuck with who we got on Defense” mentality you displayed
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I’m just spitballing stuff around, trying to generate FOOTBALL related conversation.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:39 am
He can block & catch
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Boss’s blocking abilities seem to have been greatly overhyped to me… IMO he is about as good a blocker as Miller was.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Team sucked past 8 yrs cause of Kelly your stupid for saying that. There are way too many issues and retards on our team that contributed, :Jr, gallary, buchanon……,firing coaches every yr, NFL screwing us on Sundays, Rob Ryan, bresnahan, Jr, Jr, AD medling team way to much causing no good d. Cordinators…….. Just sayin tk is a decent dt and we will see what mckenzie thinks since he is evaluator rnd my money is on that tk stays.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Team sucked past 8 yrs cause of Kelly your stupid for saying that. There are way too many issues and retards on our team that contributed, :Jr, gallary, buchanon……,firing coaches every yr, NFL screwing us on Sundays, Rob Ryan, bresnahan, Jr, Jr, AD medling team way to much causing no good d. Cordinators……
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Na. It’s all Kellys fault!
January 27th, 2012 at 8:47 am
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I never said WE sucked because of TK. I said he constantly jumps offsides. I said we constantly suck against the run with him. Those are both facts. Look them up if you dont believe me.
My opinion of TK is one of a selfish player only worried about sacks and a payday. His play on the field, and the fact that he can barely formulate a sentence only reinforce my negative perception of him.
Contantly jumping offsides is a selfish act. Shows that all he really cares about is trying to sack the QB. Our run defense suffers because of his tunnel vision. If we had even 1 good year of stopping the run with him on our DLine I could possibly be persuaded. But we suck EVERY year. Now I’m not saying he’s the ENTIRE problem, but I’ve seen enough to know he’s a good part of the problem. He’s an AD scholarship player and most people know it.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Does anyone think Mark’s going to make his decision based on an LA Times poll? It all comes down to investors. And Oakland is just as much in the running as anyone, especially with Al now out of the picture. No disrespect to Al and his fanatics, but let’s be honest, in the bay area business circle he was giant red flag. The Raiders are a much more attractive investment now.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Macho man what is your idea of a bad azz dt that we can obtain in free agency or a realistic trade? You were probably a turdell sands fan, huh.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:53 am
The fact is that we need draft picks and we are going to let some guys go.
It does not make any sense to trade Mcfadden as much as we have invested in him plus he is injured and you cant get much for an injured player. The only way to get a low 1st rounder or high second round pick for him is if we were in mid season and he was tearing it up like he did at the beginning of the year.
With all that being said why not keep him for the last year of his contract and if he does well then leaves via free agency we can get a compensatory pick for him maybe a late 3rd or 4th rounder. Which may be all we could get now for trading him while injured.
Even if he is healed right now there is no way to showcase that to other teams as its the off season.
Mcfadden stays and plays out his last year of his contract here there is no value in trading him at this point.
January 27th, 2012 at 8:53 am
brong in romo to help biekert with lbs…
January 27th, 2012 at 8:56 am
I’m just spitballing stuff around, trying to generate FOOTBALL related conversation.
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BCZ,
much appreciated, trust me!
January 27th, 2012 at 8:59 am
yall in trouble again?
January 27th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Dakota Lakers need a new coach Brown is bad but not in the word used in bad as good the other bad
January 27th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Boss’s blocking abilities seem to have been greatly overhyped to me… IMO he is about as good a blocker as Miller was.
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I think he’s the best blocking & pass catching TE on the roster
Top 10 in the NFL in either category? Maybe not …
January 27th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Team sucked past 8 years because of Kelly?
That’s just rich.
So, it was Kelly who traded Jon Gruden for cash and draft picks.
It was Kelly who, instead of making a serious run for eventual Super Bowl winner Sean Payton, hired Norv Turner.
It was Kelly who drafted Gallery over Phillip Rivers, when our current QB was a 90 year old Rich Gannon.
It was Kelly who drafted Fabian Washington over a QB from Cal named Aaron Rodgers, and instead settled on Kerry Doofus Collins as QB.
It was Kelly who, instead of making a serious run at more qualified candidates, decided to hire Art Shell as head coach.
It was Kelly who drafted Michael Huff over Leinart and Cutler, by no means future hall of fame QBs, but still quite needed when you consider we settled on Aaron Brooks!
It was Kelly who hired Lane Kiffin, Monte Kiffin’s son, who had already been at USC, and expected him to twiddle his thumbs and follow orders like a puppet.
It was Kelly who drafted JaMarcus Russell.
It was Kelly who, instead of just cutting ties with Kiffin and paying him what he was owed, putting the mistake behind him and moving into the future, tried to get out of payment by creating a huge national spectacle and accuse Kiffin of misconduct. “overhead projector” now one of the most memorable, embarrassing Raider moments, right up there with Gruden beating us in the Super Bowl.
It was Kelly who drafted Darius Heyward Bey over Raji and Orakpro.
Yeah, you know, it’s amazing Kelly still has a job here. That kind of GM record is unacceptable.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:04 am
R McKenzie is doing a great job scouting talent at the Senior Bowl. He is observing RBs, OLBs, and DL. Also mentioned are a few DBs and 1 TE.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:04 am
According to Draftcountdown.vom.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:08 am
McFadden has 2 more years left on his rookie contract.
He has shown to be too good when healthy to give up on. The OC needs to limit him to 15-20 touches a game. That’s still averages out to be 280 touches in a 16 game season. Bring in Ryan Grant or some other guy to back him up and give him and Taiwan 10-15 touches combined.
Unless Reg can somehow snag a 1st for him, I think he is staying put. I hope so anyways.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:09 am
I like Crawford, Bequette, and Curry as pass rushers.
Draft a RE, and move So Nasty to LE.
Draft a NT, move Houston inside to rotate at DT, and trade TK or Seymour.
Seymour, TK, Dez, and Houston play the same position.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:11 am
You let opposing DCs know that McFadden will only be getting 15 handoffs a game, they’ll never respect our run game. One of the perks of having a talented RB is that defenses have to respect him and play up, opening up windows in the intermediate passing game. Duh! Duh!!!
January 27th, 2012 at 9:12 am
brong in romo to help biekert with lbs
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Biekert had no experience coaching LB’s when he joined us 2 years ago as asst under Mike Haluchak.
when John Marshall & Mike Haluchak (Cable guys) were kicked to the curb.. Biekert was promoted to LB Coach and given Rickey Hunley from the UFL as an assistant
I don’t want any more “on the job training” guys attempting to develop Rolando McClain. He requires the best in the business and even that may not be good enough to save him from BUST status…
January 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am
You draft for 3 years down the road. You only draft for immediate need when the player is an absolute no brainer, like Andrew Luck. We should take the best QB available with our first pick. We will need a QB in 3 years.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Funny. “Great.” I wonder what all the other people who aren’t doing as “great” a job as him are doing. Remove lips from buttocks please, and relax.
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R McKenzie is doing a great job scouting talent at the Senior Bowl. He is observing RBs, OLBs, and DL. Also mentioned are a few DBs and 1 TE.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Who let the monkey out of its cage?
January 27th, 2012 at 9:14 am
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Youre right but what youre missing is AD undermined everyone on the defensive side of the ball. I think with a hard a$$ coach with a defensive penchant and no meddling, McClain will be just fine. Time will tell though.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Good thinking Sullivan, but I think we wait until next year when there’s a better QB class coming out, AND we have a 1st round pick.
If I were GM, I’d honestly draft a QB every 2 years or so. Nothing move valuable, necessary, and trade-able.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:16 am
you can’t label a guy like McClain a bust when he’s playing out of position.
To think an ILB in a 3-4 is the same as a 4-3 ILB is silly.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:19 am
R McKenzie is doing a great job scouting talent at the Senior Bowl. He is observing RBs, OLBs, and DL. Also mentioned are a few DBs and 1 TE.
According to Draftcountdown
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O,
Do you think he’s looking for starters or depth?
Impossible to know if any GM is doing a “great job” until players are drafted and starting producing on the football field …
January 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Raider O Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
According to draftcountdown, we are observing RBs, OLBs, and DL @ the Senior Bowl.
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What that tells me is we are switching to a 3-4 defense. Also, MBush is walking which is OK with me. He’s NOT a starter. Good BU but definitely NOT starter. Hope we go after FA Marshawn Lynch as a replacement.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Raider O, I think the Dline should look like this:
LDE-Shaugnessy/Moss
LDT-Kelly/FA or draft pick
RDT-Houston/FA or draft pick
RDE-Wimbley/Bryant
Seymour the great leader has lead this team in bonehead penalties, ejections and disappearing acts. I won’t miss him at all. Kelly I don’t think has a big price tag this year so keep him for one more year unless Reg can trade him for a pick and drafts a DT or FA pick up.
My 2 cents on the subject, now back to work…
January 27th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Don’t the Giants use a 4-3? Interesting to watch for this SB. Could this be the ultimate formation bowl? 4-3 vs. 3-4? That Giants d line gets in Brady’s face and they win, I think that goes a long way to debunk the theory that we’re in a 3-4 era.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Mike Sherman and Kevin Coyle are your Dolphins coordinators
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Go interview Bowles, Denny!
January 27th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I think McClain needs one more year with a different DC. He was expected to do too much in pass coverage, as was Wimbley. He was reading pass first most of the time instead of run first. On snap of the ball, he’s back on his heals ready to back-pedal into pass coverage instead of ready to come up and fill gaps.
As for the gun thing, who knows what really happened.
You may have some guy that McClain used to to pick on
starting crap with him at a party and then going to the cops saying he fired a gun next to his head. Any witnesses?? Now the guy is suing McClain. I think there is the answer. Looking for a payday!!!
January 27th, 2012 at 9:26 am
192
The Patriots have switched to a 4-3 as their base D this year.
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We’re a .500 team with Seymour the last 2 years. Go back and look at what our record is with TK and tell me which one we should keep again. And yes TK has a big price tag as a result of the deal he got 4-5 years ago that was the biggest ever for a DLineman at the time.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I think that goes a long way to debunk the theory that we’re in a 3-4 era.
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So-called 3-4 teams play so much in the nickel these days, with either two down linemen or even four, that stuff doesn’t mean what it used to anyway.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Packers I think use mostly a 4-3 too. I’m trying to google this because I really don’t pay attention to formations when watching teams other than the Raiders. One article I have in another window says packers are a base 3-4 team, but they mostly use a 4-3. Whatever the hell that means.
What do the Saints use?
January 27th, 2012 at 9:28 am
AD undermined everyone on the defensive side of the ball. I think with a hard a$$ coach with a defensive penchant and no meddling, McClain will be just fine. Time will tell though
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FH,
Al Davis, you’re presumed 82 year old DC paid $40 million to a guy to make tackles behind the LOS, force turnovers, display leadership and improve the run defense. Ultimately make the players around him better and make Al Davis look like a genious for drafting him.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:28 am
MR, did you read the topic from Cork?
That means no more marxist propaganda from you KK and Peymour, thanks in advance.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Still think with the Raiders’ personnel they should use a Tampa 2. Tampa 2 is different from the cover 2 in that instead of the CBs having the sideline from the l.o.s to about 20 yards deep, they have the sideline from the l.o.s. all the way to the goal line. It’s an optimal defense for fast CBs that can keep up with WRs. This added responsibility by the CBs frees up the safeties to close up the deep middle, which is typically vulnerable in a regular cover 2 because of course the safeties are then responsible for their respective half of the deep field, all the way to the sideline.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:34 am
you can’t label a guy like McClain a bust when he’s playing out of position.
To think an ILB in a 3-4 is the same as a 4-3 ILB is silly.
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Alex,
Dennis Allen will run a 4-3 Defense in Oakland, so what is your suggestion?
dump the guy? trade him?
January 27th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Teams often mix 3-4 looks with 4-3 and 2-4-5 looks depending on down and distance.
The Raiders don’t, because they’ve only been allowed to do 4-3 for the last 2 decades.
Will be a nice change.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Wow, what the heck happened around here to warrant this post?
January 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Sully,
talking about base defense?
Saints = 4-3
Packers = 3-4
not exclusively, of course
January 27th, 2012 at 9:44 am
195.Forrest Hump Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:26 am
192
The Patriots have switched to a 4-3 as their base D this year.
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We’re a .500 team with Seymour the last 2 years. Go back and look at what our record is with TK and tell me which one we should keep again. And yes TK has a big price tag as a result of the deal he got 4-5 years ago that was the biggest ever for a DLineman at the time.
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Look at our offense for those years and compare. One dog goes this way, the other dog goes the other way…
January 27th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Well, I guess its official…Raiders will announce Allen as HC on Monday at Noon! Season Ticket holders will get a chance to ask a question during the presser if you submit a question to askcoach@raiders.com by 5PM tomorrow.
Sorry guys, came via email under season ticket holder update!
January 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am
The Giants run the old fashioned out of date Al Davis style of defense where they rush 4 and do not blitz very often they expect their front 4 to get pressure. they plan man and zone in the secondary not much difference between what they and what we did when Al Davis ran the defense.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am
gmoring from da phils anyway out of angeles city running a muck and i took time to see we are being censored now? lol who’s flault is this
January 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:12 am
I don’t want any more “on the job training” guys attempting to develop Rolando McClain. He requires the best in the business and even that may not be good enough to save him from BUST status…
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got a name for you. One of the all time overachievers…current inside LB coach for Texas A&M…Dat Nguyen. Coached Vonn Miller. Assistant LB coach for Wade Phillips in Dallas for 2 yrs. Played with Allen in 1995 at A&M. They just changed the coaching regime down there and I would love to see Allen bring him in.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:48 am
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-to-Introduce-Head-Coach-Dennis-Allen/fe1767ae-2f37-44fd-8885-c6409f5102ca
Raiders to Introduce Head Coach Dennis Allen
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The Oakland Raiders will introduce Head Coach Dennis Allen on Monday, January 30, 2012 at noon…
The Oakland Raiders will introduce Head Coach Dennis Allen on Monday, January 30, 2012 at noon.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:49 am
The difference is that the Giants execute it well and they have a great front 4 probably the best in the league. They also tackle well and are well disciplined enough to handle gap assignments.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am
The Giants run the old fashioned out of date Al Davis style of defense where they rush 4 and do not blitz very often they expect their front 4 to get pressure. they plan man and zone in the secondary not much difference between what they and what we did when Al Davis ran the defense.
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the difference is that they have people on the line too make plays
January 27th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:45 am
The Giants run the old fashioned out of date Al Davis style of defense where they rush 4 and do not blitz very often they expect their front 4 to get pressure. they plan man and zone in the secondary not much difference between what they and what we did when Al Davis ran the defense.
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True but only difference is Coughlin is a disciplinarian and does not institute a scholarship program like AD did. Most of our guys would never be on his roster.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:50 am
RaiderDuck Says:
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-to-Introduce-Head-Coach-Dennis-Allen/fe1767ae-2f37-44fd-8885-c6409f5102ca
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Dude needs to work on that haircut.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am
i like dat nywn lol
January 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am
“old fashioned out of date defense?” you mean the one in the super bowl? Al had it right 4 good dlinemen man to man (bump n run) is the way to go none of this crappy zone stuff…
January 27th, 2012 at 9:53 am
RaiderDuck Says:
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-to-Introduce-Head-Coach-Dennis-Allen/fe1767ae-2f37-44fd-8885-c6409f5102ca
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Dude needs to work on that haircut.
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Maybe Mark liked the cut!
January 27th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Dude needs to work on that haircut.
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For a multi billion dollar business, they got some of the worst mug shots of their coaches. You’d think they can pay $50 for a decent photo shoot.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:55 am
205. Ok I’ll bite. How bout quotes from our own guys when Seymour came aboard. Even Nnamdi said he felt the need to pick his game up when Seymour came aboard. Have you ever heard ANY player say anything complimentary about TK? No. All other things being equal I’ll take the guy with SB rings.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:56 am
So I guess we have to wait til Monday to maybe find out who is assistants are gonna be?
January 27th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Real Talk those of you talkin all that political stuff have been warned It will not be tolerated any longer if you wanna voice your political opinion go on Rush Limbaugh’s blog just leav us raider fan alone Real Talk
January 27th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Coughlin is a disciplinarian and does not institute a scholarship program like AD did. Most of our guys would never be on his roster.
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Agreed. They shape up or get shipped out!
January 27th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Would you guys quit it with Mark’s haircut? Bizarre hair cuts do run in the family. Al had a pompadour in the ’90s, when he still had hair. He was the only notable figure with a pompadour since Grease wrapped up production.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Al had that disco duck hairdo a little late in the ’80s, too.
January 27th, 2012 at 9:59 am
do yall watch da games TK the best we got Seymore living off hype and to keep it real Seymore cost us some games acting like Rondo after a funeral but on da field
January 27th, 2012 at 9:59 am
RR
I’m not suggesting anything for McClain, simply stating that you shouldn’t label someone a bust when he is playing out-of-position.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Dennis Allen has a long way to go before his haircut competes with Mark Davis’. You wanna talk about bad do’s, start there…
January 27th, 2012 at 10:00 am
To demand no political speech is a political stance in and of itself. It’s to insist that the status quo is working just fine, and it perpetuates the fear of rattling it.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Both Seymour and Kelly will be gone by the beginning of our 2013 season.
Both part of constant bottom-5 run defenses. Old. Expensive.
It’s obvious and almost not worth talking about, being that everyone knows they’ll be replaced this or next year.
Seymour can at least be moved over to LDE and give us production this year.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:02 am
new post !!
January 27th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Real Talk Sully these gentelmen keep talking bout Marks hair but I know what they are really trying to say Real Talk the main colprate is JaMists and Method Real Talk I think they are upset over Marks display of his ability to grow nice clean long healthy Blond hair
Real Talk
January 27th, 2012 at 10:04 am
True but only difference is Coughlin is a disciplinarian and does not institute a scholarship program like AD did. Most of our guys would never be on his roster.
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Not true. Tolefson was a practice squader here who couldn’t crack the roster, and he is playing a heavy rotation in NY right now.
January 27th, 2012 at 10:15 am
current inside LB coach for Texas A&M…Dat Nguyen. Coached Vonn Miller. Assistant LB coach for Wade Phillips in Dallas for 2 yrs. Played with Allen in 1995 at A&M.
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eh, i’m not too excited either way
January 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Get Jack Del Rio call it a day
January 27th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Anybody catch any of the Pro Bowl stuff on NFL Network.
Seymour looks totally out of shape!! I didn’t realize his gut was that big!!
January 27th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Corky
Now are burdening the site with content restrictions . Anyway it’s your right, The News Group being a corporation with the rights of an individual, not subject to Constitutional muster.
But, I told you once and I’ll tell you again: part of the reason posters become disrespectful is when you and Jerry Mac take too long between article entries.
Whenever you start to see 1000 comments under an article the line begins to get crossed. My analogy is when a dog is left on a chain in the hot sun without food or water, that dog will begin to raise he.l, barking, straining the chain, biting, etc.,etc.
I hope this comment is helpful to you.
January 27th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Must be another slow football news day … Mark Davis hair?… Really .. Who cares ….
January 27th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
communist blog
January 27th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
I read this blog every day and usually don’t say much about the comments made, because I don’t really think some of you guys even watch the whole game or understand football. But someone wrote that we should cut Kelley because he ” jumps offsides”, it is Seymour who habitually jumps offsides (see Patriots and Packers games). TK is one of the better DT’s in the league, cutting him would be a huge mistake.
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