Report: Allen signs 4-year contract
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, January 26th, 2012 at 4:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Dennis Allen signed a four-year contract to coach the Raiders, according to Kate Longworth of CSN Bay Area.
Allen and Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie reached agreement on a contract Tuesday night in Mobile, Ala., where Allen interviewed for the second time.
The Raiders still have not confirmed the hiring. CSN says the introductory news conference is scheduled for Monday. Given the news conference will be broadcast on CSN, it’s a safe bet to say the Raiders have confirmed it to CSN.
McKenzie returned to Alameda on Wednesday. Allen should be through checking out pro prospects in Mobile today or Friday.
Allen could not be reached for comment. Two Raiders officials said they cannot confirm Allen signing a contract.
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January 26th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
#1
January 26th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Make up ya damn minds
January 26th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
We already knew this Steve. Quit piggy backing and get us some real news.
January 26th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Now, on to hiring (or retaining) the coordinators!
OC: Al Saunders
DC: Richard Smith, Bill Johnson, Todd Bowles or…?
ST: John Fassel (hopefully)
January 26th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I know…why post something then say they cannot confirm it? I guess for the good of it, it stopped 1000 posts!
January 26th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
We already knew Steve.
Did it just get STUPIDER in here? Yup, it sure did. JAMISTA CLOWN! So the rich pay more in taxes. Mitch Romney pays more than Seymour Bush. Well, halleluleah!!! Do you not think it is weird that out of $21mm in income, Romney pays only around $3mm in taxes? 14%?? While middle income earners pay almost 50% of theirs when you factor in Fed, State, Local and sales taxes. Oh right, I forgot, math was never your strong subject. Neither was English, writing, logic, political science, history…..
January 26th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Nice! Let’s move forward as a Nation.
January 26th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Fking report this, Kate > Jerry > Corky
January 26th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Repost: Seymour Bush
Responding to that degenerate is senseless he is so uneducated its like arguing with a drunk.
No one pays 70% income tax unless you live in England.
50% is the highest tax bracket but yet guys like Romney and warren Buffett pays 16% or whatever it was.
Nixon ended that era and so did Reagan again in the 1950’s that was true tax was that high.
How come guys like Elton John, Mick Jagger, Eric Clapton, Paul McCarney and many many other proud English people became American citizens because they were getting taxed at 70% in Europe so they now live here and pay US taxes because its considerable less.
January 26th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Repost: Seymour Bush
Responding to that degenerate is senseless he is so uneducated its like arguing with a drunk.
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Good point. I didn’t think I was responding to him as much as I was wiping my ass with him.
January 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
When you pay taxes you are paying tribute to your rulers. It has never occured to most that they, as individuals, could pay for services that they actually desire and leave out the middle man.
January 26th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I like it. Finally some consistency.
January 26th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
when they fire coach allen after his 1st season i just hope brian billick gets an interview. and we need 2 hire herm edwards as our defensive coordinator.
January 26th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Twocents Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
When you pay taxes you are paying tribute to your rulers. It has never occured to most that they, as individuals, could pay for services that they actually desire and leave out the middle man.
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Ok. So let’s say you live in SF Bay area and it is Dec 8, 1941 and you and 36 of your friends decide you need an aircraft carrier. How do you cut out the middle man then?
January 26th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
doriangray Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
when they fire coach allen after his 1st season
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Allen is going to be here for awhile. Might as well relax and enjoy the ride.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Vittorio Tafur
Am told no official announcement from #Raiders coming today. New coach Dennis Allen is busy putting a staff together. Proceed as you were.
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Sounds like they might have the coordinators named by the presser. Good.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
one of the candidates needs 2 have a platform about legalizing the green…. its the only way one of them could beat the president.. whats the point of a war on drugs when its a civil war ? we fightin ourselves becus most americans enjoy drugs. thats like mexico waging war on pita bread
January 26th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
doriangray Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
we fightin ourselves becus most americans enjoy drugs. thats like mexico waging war on pita bread
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Huh? I thought pita bread was from the Balkans.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Last night I made the following comment under Corky’s post: “McClain will stand trial.”
“Ebony, sub-moron McClain needs to get his contract rescinded by the Raiders for moral reasons, and sent back to queer-nation with a banana between his teeth for the ape/half-monkey that he is.
I hope he burns over his crimes. Hopefully, he will “f” around in Alabama from whence he came and get capped between the eyes while entertaining some ni.ga nonsense in ‘bama’ ghetto.”
Later I made the following comment under this article submitted by Jerry Mac: “Allen was on a the fast track to HC.”
“McClain fits right into certain sterotypes and will be the cause of his own demise for engaging in nig.a nonsense. But it is all on him.
JaMarcus was the same way. Couldn’t even speak standard English, but instead spoke fluent ghetto slang, was lazy and fat and enjoyed purple drank more than lasting fame and fortune.
Because these boys don’t grow up with a daddy to whip their azz’s for bad behavior, they feel entitled as high-profile college athletes, then later as pros, to do anything they wish.
Then it all goes away, and rather quickly at that, and they wonder why? Look at TO who earned $80M during his career and is now dead broke and in arrears for $500k to his babies mamas: 4 kids by 4 different women, all as big as refrigerators.
Also, under the 1st Amendment and freedom of speech in an open and public forum such as this content of an individual’s speech is protected unless same person advocates illegality or such speech instigates “a clear and present danger” of violent behavior.
A person’s thoughts and speech are his own. Thank God for the U.S. Constitution.”
It seems that my two entries spawned a running discussion on race and racism which threaded throughout almost 900 comments.
Let me say this:
65% to 70% of all NFL players are black, while demographically blacks represent 13% of the U.S. population. It seems that most of the black NFL players came from the predominant class of blacks in this country born and raised in the inner city, in single parent, father-absent-households, collecting serial welfare and public assistance, generationally.
This dominant sub-culture of blacks seems to disdain education and work, opting for ignorance and easy money. The young people from this sub-class (the ruined and enslaved generation) aspire to be either gang members, drug dealers, or “ballers”. In the case of “ballers” only a hyper-micro percentage will make the cut. Thus the vast over-numbers of young black men in prison and on death row, according to percentage of black population within the demographic ranks.
It cannot be denied that the blacks, due to past slavery, John Crow discrimination, and subsequent government entitlements and affirmative action programs are now on the brink of destruction.
To condone athletes’ behavior, like McClain, is disgusting. McClain gained his $25M contract because the fans like you and me put down our hard earned money toward it. His arrogant attitude in which he will not deign to do interviews or otherwise make himself available to his fans flies in the face of common sense and reason. His lack of performance and off-field antics don’t help his cause.
Even if McClain is not guilty of crimes he is alleged to have committed, he should have never been in the situation in that “bama” ghetto, engaging in “nig.a nonsense.”
He spits on and soils his fans, the Nation, and makes unclean one of the most storied franchises in the NFL.
I hope Reggie sends him away, if the justice system in Alabama does not!
January 26th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Seymour, all these wars could have been avoided. The powers that be gin them up for profit. If you are a believer then sign up and fight or send your children.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Whats up Nation!!
January 26th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Oh BTW, we’ve killed millions in the middle east since WWI when the allied powers partioned the entire area and divided it into the nations with which we are now familiar.
We continue to kill and should only blame ourselves since it has always been, and will always be about their oil, refined into gasoline we put into our cars.
We all elected an oil President and Vice-President, both of whom in the past administration have abridged our personal liberties with national security acts supposely enacted to deal with “terrorists”.
Sorry to say that we are the terrorists: always have been and will be.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Rumor has it that Lady Gaga is going to use HueJack as poster boy for her anti-bullying pulpit with the motto : Build a bully and lose everything
January 26th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
i see this blog carries a wide variety of topics…..
January 26th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
What is up with the host of NFL Network and those Giant ears? I find it too distracting. Any thoughts out there in The Nation
January 26th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Millions of dead people is miniscule in comparison with the number of slain brain cells incurred from reading comments here.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Good evening, Raider bro-himes!
Any insider news on coordinators, since we can’t really get any from the writers?
January 26th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Regarding Coach Allen, let’s hope they must sign him to an extension due to his great success in Silver & Black…
…GO RAIDERS
January 26th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
LouisianaRaider,
glean what you can from actual information and Raider dialogue here and don’t fret the rest
January 26th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
no joke No 26
January 26th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
“The power to tax is the power to destroy”
Chief Justice John Marshall
McCulloch v. Maryland
17 U.S. 316 (1819)
January 26th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Heard the guy from the chiefs maybe comin over, emmitt thomas.. that or some robison guy from the donks
January 26th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Al D. Davis, well said.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Al D. Davis, c’mon bro. There has to be a site customized to your ideal blogging topics. This isn’t the one, it’s for Raider football.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
ok who thinks what of the allen hire??
January 26th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
mexicans love pita bread
January 26th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
50% is the highest tax bracket but yet guys like Romney and warren Buffett pays 16% or whatever it was.
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The highest tax bracket is 35%.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Chas. .. Andrew Suciliano does not have BIG ears…. he just has a small head…LOL. I can’t stand that idiot anyway..
January 26th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
MiamiRaider78, #34
Miami, I understand your point, however, I was only responding to subjects put forth in the comments by other writers.
I’ll try to stay on track.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
coach allen is the youngest coach in the nfl now. and hes gonna be a rookie coach. with a very knowledgable raider fanbase rookie coach mistakes are rarely tolerated. coach allen will undoubtedly be fired after the 2012-2013 season . we raider fans thought his denver defense was tough although they gave up many yards. we also think hes skinnier than a white vegetarian guy from fresno.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
What do you guys think of that Greg Schiano hiring? Talk about unexpected! Not sure that will work out but Uck the Bucs!
January 26th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
KoolKell, if you believe that the government needs more money, then give, give and give some more. What’s stopping you?
January 26th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
doriangray #36,
“Mexicans love pita bread.” huh ????
January 26th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Understood, Al D. Davis. I do like when you call McClain a…is it sub-moron? Bahahahaha I’ll start using that to deserving candidates.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
wow, think he’ll be fired after one yr? No not anymore, those days are over.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
we think greg schiano shoulda left rutgers 3 years ago when he was a hot name. not like u can ever win at rutgers. also. schiano sounds like sum sort of foreign sextoy.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Twocents Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
KoolKell, if you believe that the government needs more money, then give, give and give some more. What’s stopping you?
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Why don’t you go live in Somalia, where there’s no govt?
January 26th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
#37 is correct. Thanks to the Bush tax cuts,the highest is 35%. It goes up next year if nothing is done. I am a 15 percenter. Next year, it goes up to 25 percent. Yuch.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Sorry KK I included capitol gains tax (15%) on top of the 35% I should have explained it better.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Twocents Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
When you pay taxes you are paying tribute to your rulers. It has never occured to most that they, as individuals, could pay for services that they actually desire and leave out the middle man.
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Ok. So let’s say you live in SF Bay area and it is Dec 8, 1941 and you and 36 of your friends decide you need an aircraft carrier. How do you cut out the middle man then?
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Exactly. Paying taxes is a way that the government make sure everyone contributes because there is always someone who comes up short when you go out to eat dinner
January 26th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Dorian. .. I hope he does well.. but knowing most Raiders fans.. they will be asking for his head on a platter if we go 6-10 or 5-11 next season. . I also think the Denver defense took it upon themselves to do what it took to stay in the game.. They knew They were screwed if They tried depending on tebow game in n game out.. playing strong defense was their only choice.. I’m hoping Allen had something to do with that..
January 26th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I doubt Allen will be fired after a year. Remember this is Reggie’s team now and with all the autonomy the HC and OC as supposed to half it’s highly unlikely Reggie will allow exposure by any actions or series of actions by his underlings to place him in jeopardy.
The light is shining in now as AL’s taint dissipates.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Twocents
According to the Human Development Index, these countries have the highest standards of living in the world.
Do you see any without any govt on the chart?
http://www.skeptically.org/economics/id21.html
January 26th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
why wouldnt they fire him after one season ? they fire everybody else hell … coach allen better win at least 10 games or hes screwed.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Al D. Davis Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I doubt Allen will be fired after a year. Remember this is Reggie’s team now and with all the autonomy the HC and OC as supposed to half it’s highly unlikely Reggie will allow exposure by any actions or series of actions by his underlings to place him in jeopardy.
The light is shining in now as AL’s taint dissipates.
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Exactly. If Allen gets fired it will be because of his own incompetence. I believe Reggie knows how to understand situations like when McFadden got hurt. All the time he just wanted his guy.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I see it like this. If the offense is overhauled, then we might be looking at, maybe not so good of a season. Very premature but i’ll say 9-7. I def believe they will not be 500 or under. If Denvers defense improved that much during a short training camp, then I think Allen and co could do wonders with ours. We have players but they need direction and to be disciplined.
Leave the offense alone and we can easily be 10-6, I truly truly believe that…no kool-aid, no crap.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
With every government failure the masses call for more government. We are doomed.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
barring a scandal; Allen will be our coach for at least two full seasons
January 26th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Twocents
According to the Human Development Index, these countries have the highest standards of living in the world.
Do you see any without any govt on the chart?
http://www.skeptically.org/economics/id21.html
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There is no better example of why we need taxes then the federal highway system. If you drive to work on it your tax dollars are at work!
January 26th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Al d… if we come in last place next season.. the stadium is empty on Sundays. . Raider fans start losing interest.. you can bet it will be nervous time for Reggie and Allen.. but perhaps You’re right.. Raiders fans have a lot of patience after 9 years of losing…. LOL
January 26th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
the tea party said that the govt doesnt believe in the constitution .. when did this happen ?
January 26th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Twocents
According to the Human Development Index, these countries have the highest standards of living in the world.
Do you see any without any govt on the chart?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Human_Development_Index
January 26th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
signing now posted on NFL.com about ten minutes ago
January 26th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Twocents Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
With every government failure the masses call for more government. We are doomed.
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I hear the weather in Somalia is very nice right now.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
MiamiRaider78, #56,
I agree Miami. However, I do think the offense needs some tweaking such as replacement of Satele and Barnes, replace several non-producing WRs, and install some truly creative play-calling. After that we’ll have the bomb.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Anyway, Allen will get two full seasons at least no matter what happens. I think the main reason why Hue got fired was because he could not understand a defensive scheme enough to make it effective.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I think everyone is looking toward the radical almost miracle shift in the 49′ers this season. If they can do it why not us ?
January 26th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Satele n Barnes have to go.. Carlisle was good.. but that dude is old.. we need a replacement for him too..
January 26th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Al D. Davis Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
MiamiRaider78, #56,
I agree Miami. However, I do think the offense needs some tweaking such as replacement of Satele and Barnes, replace several non-producing WRs, and install some truly creative play-calling. After that we’ll have the bomb.
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This is where we will really know if Reggie was worth the money. If we start getting a bunch of crap free agents then we’re screwed.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Ghostraiders, #60,
Just getting rid of the drag and anchor around our necks (Al Davis), the result of which we were bound in a strange, demented, and retro nether-world, will give us a 100% lift. It will at least 10 times more of a lift than when JaMarcus was dismissed.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Al D. Davis Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I think everyone is looking toward the radical almost miracle shift in the 49′ers this season. If they can do it why not us ?
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It only takes a competent coach with an effective scheme and we’ll be right on top. Harbaugh’s offense wasn’t that impressive but he had a sound football team that executed the fundamentals.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Its easier to go from avg to good than from good to elite… I think 49ers take a step back next season.. tougher schedule. .teams will be looking to cream them..
January 26th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
It will be like jumping into a hot new Ferrari, with the pink slip in “our” name.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
8RaiderReign8, #71,
Very true !!
January 26th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
ghostraiders, #72
That may be true. They should upgrade their offense to compensate.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Its easier to go from avg to good than from good to elite… I think 49ers take a step back next season.. tougher schedule. .teams will be looking to cream them..
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Been thinking the same thing. Especially because they’re the winners of their division.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Al D. Davis Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
8RaiderReign8, #71,
Very true !!
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Only reason they lost was because they had ONE player that didn’t follow the fundamentals..
January 26th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
70.. very true.. atleast we’ll finally be relevant in the NFL once again. . Atleast I hope we are.. I’m really pulling for Allen.. I’m hoping Reggie found a diamond in Denver. .that would be awesome. .
January 26th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Head Coach has got to be the Head Coach, not a coordinator
-John Madden
Ergo, he can’t stand around like a fool, while Rolando McClain is assigned to cover Megatron 40 yards downfield.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
the 49ers and raider are a bit similar. remember when they went undefeated in their division few years back & didnt get in the playoffs? they have the advantage of playing in the weaker NFC. WHERE 12 DIFF TEAMS IN 14 YEARS IN THE SUPERBOWL .
January 26th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The main thing to remember is we have 10 years of crap to rebuild from. Getting rid of the high skilled low brained players could take a year or so.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
65. In saying overhaul, I should have explained I wouldn’t mind some tweaking. I agree with what you said. Our line only gave up 25 sacks this year compared to 44 from last year. It is incredibly important for us to retain Wiley and Wiz. They did a helluva job with our line.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I know Allen will tweak for defense, but what I’m really interested in is what he does to the offense. I think Hue had alright playcalling, but there were several situations where he flat out called the wrong play.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
So Allen is in Alabama still putting a staff together, eh?
No more inheriting 2/3rds of your staff in Raiderland.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Head Coach has got to be the Head Coach, not a coordinator
-John Madden
Ergo, he can’t stand around like a fool, while Rolando McClain is assigned to cover Megatron 40 yards downfield.
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Yeah, Hue simply didn’t know enough about the defensive side of the football. However, with Al around it didn’t matter.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
R8RNAZ, #81,
Actually, we suffered through 20 losing seasons, out of the last 29.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
So you guys think we just need a little tweaking on both sides of the ball?
Scheme wise or roster wise?
January 26th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Head Coach has got to be the Head Coach, not a coordinator
-John Madden
Ergo, he can’t stand around like a fool, while Rolando McClain is assigned to cover Megatron 40 yards downfield.
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Truer words have never been spoken. Granted, Hue was powerless regarding the defense while Al was alive. Bresnaham basically reported to Al. After Al’s death is a different story. Rather than ignore the obvious defensive meltdown, Hue should have either fired or at a minimum demoted Bresnahan and appointed anyone else to stand in as the interim DC. At the very least he should have put a lot more pressure on him for results. That simply didn’t happen. That’s why people are saying Hue was in actuality our OC. He wasn’t acting as a HC should. This is one main reason he’s no longer the HC of the Raiders. There were many other reasons too but this ws a big one IMO.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
J Hill Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
So Allen is in Alabama still putting a staff together, eh?
No more inheriting 2/3rds of your staff in Raiderland
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Yeah and I heard he was over to talk to Mc-Lames mom too
January 26th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
ghostraiders #78,
I wouldn’t worry too much. The main hurdle was getting past Al and his poisonous tenacles.
January 26th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Yeah, Hue simply didn’t know enough about the defensive side of the football. However, with Al around it didn’t matter.
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That’s true too, but Al was dead, when they had McClain covering Megatron 40 yds downfield.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Yeah, Hue simply didn’t know enough about the defensive side of the football. However, with Al around it didn’t matter.
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That’s true too, but Al was dead, when they had McClain covering Megatron 40 yds downfield.
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And when Wimbley was playing linebacker instead of end against the Chargers in the second game? He single handedly disrupted that offense the whole during the first game in San Diego….second game he was getting burnt by Gates.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Can anyone photoshop the picture of Allen in his Donkey gear? Just lookin at orange and blue makes me queasy
January 26th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
If the Raiders win the AFC West this year, I will get the Mark Davis aka Lloyd Christmas haircut, just for my Raider bro’s! LOL
January 26th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
93
He will be in the colors soon enough. Yhe most encouraging thing is hearing a bronco fan bit….g about us taking one of their coaches.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
It should help us for sure. I am pretty pumped to tell you the troth. Time to get back to winning
January 26th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Seymoe Bush>>>Do you Romney tax is based on Capital Gains tax MORON. It has already been taxed at 38% Moron 15% is Capital Gain Tax Moron.. Its not Income tax Moron. Before you show your complete lack of understanding you might want to Edumucate yourself.. Should Romney Pay MOre than he is Required? If you Seymore Bush Invested your money after Government takes its share, and you make money on that investment you too will pay 15% CAPITAL GAINS.. BUT YOU WONT YOU WILL STAY IGNORANT AND COMPLAIN THAT ITS UNFAIR THAT YOUR STUPID….
January 26th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
WHEN JOHN HERRERA SAY’S IT,I’LL BELIEVE IT.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Wow.. #97.. That was kind of.. well.. unintelligible
January 26th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
id it just get STUPIDER in here? Yup, it sure did. JAMISTA CLOWN! So the rich pay more in taxes. Mitch Romney pays more than Seymour Bush. Well, halleluleah!!! Do you not think it is weird that out of $21mm in income, Romney pays only around $3mm in taxes? 14%?? While middle income earners pay almost 50% of theirs when you factor in Fed, State, Local and sales taxes.
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You’re wrong about middle income people paying “almost 50% of theirs when you factor in Fed, State, Local and sales taxes.” In fact, you just made it up.
BTW, Romney’s 2011 income tax returns show that taxes paid +money given to charity comprised a bit over 40% of his total income for the year.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
between Satele, Carlisle, & Barnes; I would be okay with Carlisle starting and either Satele or Barnes as backups.
Campbell and/or Barksdale need to step up and earn a starting spot.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
50% is the highest tax bracket but yet guys like Romney and warren Buffett pays 16% or whatever it was.
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The highest tax bracket is 35%.
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Thanks KK, I didn’t have the energy to say anything. #flu
January 26th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Thanks KK, I didn’t have the energy to say anything. #flu
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I’m just getting over it. It’s definitely going around.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Wow.. #97.. That was kind of.. well.. unintelligible
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Yeah, and that imbecile probably got a 4 year degree from Va Tech. He’s a product of what happens to the American education system when trillionaires don’t want to pay their taxes.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
GM: Mr. McKenzie
HC: Mr. Allen
DC: Mr. Breshnahan
the only thing that would make a progressive liberal more enlightened would be a tyrannical police state.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
The Buffett Rule rocks.
Billionaires should pay 30%.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
now Reggie can focus on personnel; while dennis focuses on his coaching staff.
I’m sure if one remains so does the other between Palmer & Saunders.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
id it just get STUPIDER in here? Yup, it sure did. JAMISTA CLOWN! So the rich pay more in taxes. Mitch Romney pays more than Seymour Bush. Well, halleluleah!!! Do you not think it is weird that out of $21mm in income, Romney pays only around $3mm in taxes? 14%?? While middle income earners pay almost 50% of theirs when you factor in Fed, State, Local and sales taxes.
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You’re wrong about middle income people paying “almost 50% of theirs when you factor in Fed, State, Local and sales taxes.” In fact, you just made it up.
BTW, Romney’s 2011 income tax returns show that taxes paid +money given to charity comprised a bit over 40% of his total income for the year.
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You are completely wrong on both counts. lst off, if you are in the 35% tax bracket which most middle income earners are, and you pay say 8% in CA state income taxes, not including say another 7.5% in self employment taxes, right there you will approximate almost 50% against income. And that is not including sales and gasoline taxes that would increase that number sharply. I have a hard time believing that Mitt Romney drives around enough to budge a point or two against his $2,000,000 a month income. Romney tithed 10% of his income to the mormon church. Add that to the 13% he paid and he is less than half proportionately to other middle income earners. And no I didn’t just make this up.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
25.Chas Malloy Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
What is up with the host of NFL Network and those Giant ears? I find it too distracting. Any thoughts out there in The Nation
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Add to that the weird lighting they use on those anchors.
Siciliano is kind of a cocky bloke.
Dumbo with an attitude.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Any legit source to the rumor of Saunders not being retained?
Someone mentioned it earlier here.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Seymour is an idiot thats why 0hbama can go around saying the rich need to pay their fair share when the truth is the top 10% earners are contributing to 70% of what the govt takes in. Meanwhile the bottom 50% (Seymour Bush) contributes ZERO. Class warefare is a cornerstone of the Dem party, and retarded voters (Seymour Bush).
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Yogispappa Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Seymoe Bush>>>Do you Romney tax is based on Capital Gains tax MORON. It has already been taxed at 38% Moron 15% is Capital Gain Tax Moron.. Its not Income tax Moron. Before you show your complete lack of understanding you might want to Edumucate yourself.. Should Romney Pay MOre than he is Required? If you Seymore Bush Invested your money after Government takes its share, and you make money on that investment you too will pay 15% CAPITAL GAINS.. BUT YOU WONT YOU WILL STAY IGNORANT AND COMPLAIN THAT ITS UNFAIR THAT YOUR STUPID…
January 26th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Time to fire up the old overhead projector! Raiders officials have yet to confirm the death of Al Davis. John Herrera was quoted as saying “What??? That’s a lie! I just spoke to him and changed his diaper! Wanna fight about it???”
January 26th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Every time taxes are increased for the wealthy and decreased for everyone else, the economy improves. MB I know you want to believe the ’90s economy was a late surge of Reaganomics but it wasn’t. Reaganomics put us right into the shat house that Clinton had to get us out of. We were in a recession in ‘92.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
MB, of course you don’t make 200k/year, nor anything close to it. 0bama’s going to lower your taxes! Does it really make you that angry?
January 26th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
What percentage of your production qualifies you as a slave.
Certainly 100%, but even the cruelest slave master would try to keep you alive and productive, it increases his profits.
I suggest that our current slave masters have reached the limit. When you tally up all the taxes we pay from State and Federal, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, excise taxes and on and on, not to mention the hidden tax of inflation, we are slaves to the US government.
I guarantee that we are going to screwed by these bastards.
January 26th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
DC – Emmitt Thomas, Ed Donatell, Richard Smith, or Jack Del Rio
OC – Al Saunders or Todd Haley
Trade Darren McFadden for a 2nd and 4th
Trade Tommy Kelly for a 3rd
Trade 2013 2nd round pick for 2012 3rd and 4th round picks
In order to get additional salary cap room, the Raiders should also restructure the contracts of Richard Seymour, Michael Huff, Kamerion Wimbley, Stanford Routt, Kevin Boss, and Carson Palmer if they haven’t already.
Next, they should re-sign SS Tyvon Branch, FB Marcel Reece, OL Stephon Heyer, LS Jon Condo, and make a competitive offer to RB Michael Bush. The Raiders need to try to retain DL Desmond Bryant, C Samson Satele, and FS Matt Giordano for depth.
Draft targets:
2 – DT/NT Dontari Poe, DT/NT Alameda Ta’amu, RB Lamar Miller, LB Lavonte David, DE/OLB Vinny Curry, RB Chris Polk, or DT Fletcher Cox
3 – RB Doug Martin, RB David Wilson, LB Bobby Wagner, or S George Iloka
3 – CB Leonard Johnson, LB Danny Trevathan, or DT/NT Kendall Reyes
3 (compensatory) – LB Emmanuel Acho, LB Keenan Robinson, or CB DeQuan Menzie
4 – OL Jeff Allen, DT/NT Mike Martin, OL Levy Adcock, or DE Julian Miller
4 – S Harrison Smith, OL Lucas Nix, or DT/NT Dom Hamilton, or RB Bernard Pierce
4 (compensatory) – DE Jake Bequette, DE Jack Crawford, or RB Isaiah Pead
5 – RB Tauren Poole, RB Daniel Herron, or OL Matt Ryan
6 – WR Marvin Jones, OL James Brown, WR Lavasier Tuinei, or RB Terrance Ganaway
Free agency targets:
DL – DE Mario Williams or DE Cliff Avril
CB – CB Brandon Carr, CB Richard Marshall, or CB Tracy Porter
LB – MLB Dan Connor, MLB Barrett Ruud, OLB Rocky McIntosh, OLB Leroy Hill, or OLB Wesley Woodyard
QB – QB Josh Johnson, QB Shaun Hill, or QB Chad Henne
RB – if Bush leaves, RB Mike Tolbert or RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis
Possible cuts:
T.J. Houshmanzadeh, QB Kyle Boller, OT Khalif Barnes, LB Darryl Blackstock, LB Aaron Curry, LB Ricky Brown, LB Quentin Groves, DE Trevor Scott, DT John Henderson, S Jerome Boyd, S Hiram Eugene, CB Bryan McCann, CB Lito Sheppard, and CB Chris Johnson.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
I don’t think we can trade our 2013 2nd (or first) round pick, w/o permission from Cincinnati.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
21.LouisianaRaider Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Whats up Nation!!
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Welcome aboard! What part of the boot?
504, 985, 225, 318 or 337?
January 26th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
I don’t think we can trade our 2013 2nd (or first) round pick, w/o permission from Cincinnati.
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Good call, forgot about that.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Raiders need to keep Curry; as of now he is our best run defender next to Shaughnessy.
FA targets> Mario Williams, Landry, & Carl Nicks
although I would be very happy with Avril
January 26th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Of course if you are starving to death you won’t have to pay any taxes, but I’m sure you can rely on the benevolence of your masters.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Raiders need to keep Curry; as of now he is our best run defender next to Shaughnessy.
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The Raiders could save $5.5 million by cutting him. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him go, for that reason alone.
Also, being the “best Raiders run defender” is a lot like being the “smartest Kardashian sister”.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
122 LMAO
January 26th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
More from Denver in regard to what we’re getting with Dennis Allen:
“He knew how to get us ready,” cornerback Champ Bailey told NFL Network, via the San Francisco Chronicle. “I give him a lot of credit for the success we had this year. . . . He’s one of the most intense coaches I’ve had.
“I know what type of team he’s going to have. Very intense, hard-nosed, tough. That’s the way he is. That’s what I expect his team to be.”
Linebacker Von Miller agreed. “They’re getting a guy that’s going to come in right away, and he’s going to get it done,” Miller told NFL Network. “That’s what he did for us. He came in, he laid out a plan for us, he told us, ‘This is how we’re going to do it, and this will work,’ and that’s what happened. We improved our defense an incredible amount. . . . I think he’ll do the same thing with the Oakland Raiders.”
Raiders fans asking “Dennis Who?” should keep that in mind. Instead of latching on to an established name (i.e., someone who has been fired from an NFL head-coaching job), the Raiders are trying to find the next big-name coach before he becomes the next big-name coach.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Been to the grocery store lately, it is only going to get worse. Hey, don’t worry, there is a bureaucrat working on the problem as we speak.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
More than a few of the denver fans are so distraught about losing Allen to us that they are coming to terms with it by hoping he comes here for a year or two then decides to “come back home” to Denver..ala fartface.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Seymour is an idiot thats why 0hbama can go around saying the rich need to pay their fair share when the truth is the top 10% earners are contributing to 70% of what the govt takes in. Meanwhile the bottom 50% (Seymour Bush) contributes ZERO. Class warefare is a cornerstone of the Dem party, and retarded voters (Seymour Bush).
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The top 10% is the middle class. The top 10% incorporates (pardon the pun) individuals making slightly more than $100,000 a year and above. Once again you can use statistics to prove anything. The bottom 50% make less than 30,000 a year. That is not that much in this society. Especially for a family of four.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
You guys are some very smart and funny mother fakers.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Twocents Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Been to the grocery store lately, it is only going to get worse. Hey, don’t worry, there is a bureaucrat working on the problem as we speak.
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Obviously the “free market” system is not going to take care of the problem any more than some bureaucrat who is being bought off by the “free market” system.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Well Seymour, everybody has to pay their share. I’m sure that sooner or later your share will be your life, all for the greater good you know.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Seymour, do you really believe we have a free market?
January 26th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
This from another outlet:
“The Raiders joined this year’s Tampa Bay team as one of the four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season, a distinction last reached by the 1952 Dallas Texans. The Raiders also became the sixth team since the 1970 merger to allow at least 2,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a season.
The Raiders also set an NFL record last season with 163 penalties for 1,358 yards”
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Seriously. Words can’t even describe how pathetic that is.
STILL. With all of THAT, this team managed 8-8.
Sue me for being optimistic, but if Allen can just get this defense to AVERAGE, and we can maintain the same ofensive we had with our best offensive weapon on the bench and a QB who was sitiing on a couch eating bon-bons for half the season…
We can be scary this coming year.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Twocents, 0bama is going to lower your taxes. If that’s too tyrannic for you (lol), let me know. I’ll take your savings, you can pay more of my share.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
WHAT’S IT GOING 2 TAKE 2 GET THAT DAMN SAN DIEGO GAME BOXSCORE OFF OF THE HOMEPAGE?
January 26th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
No successful nation in the history of the world has every had a truly free market. So what’s the point? The free market is a fantasy. There’s not a rich person in America today that didn’t get to where their at without some help from those tyrannical politicians in Washington.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Thank you Sully, I feel so much better now. By the way, who is stupid enough to have any savings?
January 26th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Hom Dennis Allen with a job and the great Hue is still unemployed. But i thought he was good what happend? And can Allen bring in Bowles or Del Rio for DC. Get Finnagen jackson nicks and if possible beastmode lych in FA. Melvin Ingram would make one hell of a ILB or OLB if we were to go to 3-4. But Melvin would would go in the first round but we dont have a 1st rounder
January 26th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
I must temper my optimism by noting that elevating that defense of ours to AVERAGE is no small task and may be easier said than done.
Is it a stretch to suggest we should be able to go from where we are on D to a 15th or 16th ranked D this coming season?
If what we’re hearing about Allen is true, then it is not a stretch.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Post 132
we can ne very scary this coming seasons
but we won’t know til septiembre
January 26th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Twocents, your ideology is about as compatible to the world we’re living in as a horse and buggy.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Can’t wait for the press conference! Just to look at Mark Davis hair to laugh my ass off.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Sully says that no successful nation has had a free market economy. I reply that there has never been a successful nation, they all end in disaster.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I am surprised that Hue didn’t get an interview with the Bucs?
spagnolo got a job with the saints after failing as a head coach…what’s hue waiting for.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
141.silver-on-black Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Can’t wait for the press conference! Just to look at Mark Davis hair to laugh my ass off.
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It’d be funny to see everybody in the Black Hole sporting Mark’s dubious hair do as a show of support.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Post 137
hue is the QB coach for Arizona. I read somewheres
January 26th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Hom Dennis Allen with a job and the great Hue is still unemployed. But i thought he was good what happend? And can Allen bring in Bowles or Del Rio for DC. Get Finnagen jackson nicks and if possible beastmode lych in FA. Melvin Ingram would make one hell of a ILB or OLB if we were to go to 3-4. But Melvin would would go in the first round but we dont have a 1st rounder
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look for at least 3 trades for picks on draft day involving 3 of our players likely to go; Houston, Murphy and sad to say it, but Michael Mitchell – giving them a total of 7 picks (97th, 140th and the 178th
watch for DeJohn Harris, Donte Paige-Moss, Nicholas Jean-Baptiste, an unknown beast out of Regina (Canada) named Akeim Hicks (superb pass rushing late pick), another is Harrison Smith of Notre Dame and Carmen Messina.
in free agency, expect; Jarret Johnson, Legedu Nanaae, Gary Guyton, Haruki Nakamura, Rod Hood, Adam Snyder (from the Niners) and Antonio Garay. They will not over spend so you can count out – RB Lynch, NT Paul Soliai, Vincent Jackson or Robert Mathis (Colts).
If Bush doesn’t sign or moves on….wouldnt mind giving a long look at BenJarvus Green-Ellis.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
From Yahoo Sports:
“I like what I’m hearing, and though we won’t know what will happen until the Silver and Black get back on the field for the 2012 season, the naysayers might want to give this guy a chance. McKenzie just might know what he was doing after all.”
January 26th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Twocents
You’re a stupid arse retard.
January 26th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
KoolKell, how so?
January 26th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Twocents Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Sully says that no successful nation has had a free market economy. I reply that there has never been a successful nation, they all end in disaster.
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EVERY NATION FALLS. The expectancy is about 200 years – history has proven it – any capitalism-communism argument is garbage, since they were created and funded by the central banking powers of Europe. Congress is another well-paid, outmaneuvered illusion that has been bought off or corrupted or intimidated following 9/11 and the murder of Paul Wellstone (D-Minn).
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed – from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abudnance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage.”
-Sir Alexander Fraser Tytler, History Professor, University of Edinburgh (1747-1813)
they spin the “courage to liberty” part to the lemmings (the public) in this non-sensical War on terror
January 26th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Bowles isn’t being promoted to Dcoordinator in Miami. I liked what I read about him, wonder if he will be considered about Allen.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Bowles isn’t being promoted to Dcoordinator in Miami. I liked what I read about him, wonder if he will be considered by Allen.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
The Tytler cycle, that is not discussed among those educated by the state.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
I know Michael Douglas is no genius, but he said something interesting on, I think, Charlie Rose on PBS when promoting that Wall Street sequel a couple years back. He said that 18th century belonged to the French, the 19th century to England, the 20th century to America(something like that, I’m paraphrasing, I don’t know the timelines myself…), and that’s just it. The 21st century is going to belong to a new empire (China?). Every century or so, the power shifts. Our time just could be up.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
If you believe in karma, you have to believe that at some point America has to face some kind of demise for slaughter of native Americans, enslavement of blacks, etc. We can tell people to put it behind them. But if there’s such thing as karma, everyone pays.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
141.silver-on-black Says: January 26th, 2012 at 7:40 pm.
Can’t wait for the press conference! Just to look at Mark Davis hair to laugh my ass off.
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It’d be funny to see everybody in the Black Hole sporting Mark’s dubious hair do as a show of support.
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LMAO!!!!
January 26th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
It’d be funny to see everybody in the Black Hole sporting Mark’s dubious hair do as a show of support
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Now that is fkn funny.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
“If you believe in karma, you have to believe that at some point America has to face some kind of demise for slaughter of native Americans, enslavement of blacks, etc. We can tell people to put it behind them. But if there’s such thing as karma, everyone pays.”
If you’re right, it appear the whole world will face such karma, esp. those who are still practicing slavery.
First, take the entire of the African continent, a place where slavery has always existed, as far as we can tell. All the descendants of those tribes who sold the members of others tribes into slavery would face such karma.
However, we needn’t look to centuries ago for the enslavement of peoples by other peoples. Much of the African continent still practices slavery and the stealing of children from other tribes to use as slaves and as sacrifices to their gods.(Yes, they kill them). They also steal adults to use as barter or to use as slaves. And, we can’t forget the practice of female circumcision. God, the whole of Africa is, therefore, doomed, having to face karma.
Then, there’s Asia, of course, where slavery is still practiced, from north Asia to Southeast Asia, where the sex slave practices make a lot of money for the practitioners.
Ahhh, humanity.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Luvmarv, if karma truly exists, its out of both of our hands. We can argue about it all we want. Karma will have in store for us what it has in store for us. You can’t look karma in the eye and say, “hey, other countries did it too”. Anymore than you could look at St. Peter at the pearly gates and tell him that others have committed the sins you’ve committed. Too late for that.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
BTW, Sullivan,
Go back and study the enslavement of Amerindians by other Amerindians. You can go all the way back to the 1600s and read accounts of it by the earliest Euros who witnessed such things and were enslaved themselves.
Or you can read more up-to-date accounts. Wow. Talk about violent. My poor Cherokee ancestors were pretty darned passive, poor things.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Could it be the real difference between the American liberal and the American conservative is that the American liberal takes full accountability for America’s wrong doing, America’s sins, and seeks redemption, while the American conservative deflects blame and makes excuses? If there’s someone up there watching, you tell me who’s in better with them.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Luvmarv, if what you say is true, it only means they’ll face the music as well. If karma or Christianity exists, you’re not going to get out of damnation or ruin just because someone else did it too. Not how it works.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Bowles isn’t being promoted to Dcoordinator in Miami. I liked what I read about him, wonder if he will be considered by Allen.
Agreed!
January 26th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
I know Michael Douglas is no genius, but he said something interesting on, I think, Charlie Rose on PBS when promoting that Wall Street sequel a couple years back. He said that 18th century belonged to the French, the 19th century to England, the 20th century to America(something like that, I’m paraphrasing, I don’t know the timelines myself…), and that’s just it. The 21st century is going to belong to a new empire (China?). Every century or so, the power shifts. Our time just could be up.
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Correct. Hence the conflict in Iran, with China-Soviet-Sino interests being threatened, and them being dragged into it – particularly if war in Pakistan is an option.
War will be waged to obstruct China’s eventual empire – it will be done through the balkanization and weakening of the Middle East- Syria first to weaken Iran, then some R2P Humanitarian “Crisis” will be foisted on to the public to gain sympathy and public consent/ and Congressonal “act” to attack Iran.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Could it be the real difference between the American liberal and the American conservative is that the American liberal takes full accountability for America’s wrong doing, America’s sins, and seeks redemption, while the American conservative deflects blame and makes excuses? If there’s someone up there watching, you tell me who’s in better with them.
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Could it be they are two sides of the same corrupt coin?
January 26th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Not a one of you talking back and forth have any idea how hard life is for most of the 7 billion that live on this planet.
All your talk about the demise of this and that….
Going forward, size, scale and wealth will determine what people have an ability to craft their own destiny.
For you frontier guys….a small nation made up of individuals can’t defend itself economically or militarily.
You will get taken over. Every culture in the world that was unable to achieve scale, wealth, education etc….was absorbed either directly or indirectly.
You all should be hoping the USA (us) get this right.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I am usually very pessimistic about the future and the fate of mankind. But the internet reformation has given me great hope. One can get information about anything, a complete education on any subject. It is changing the world.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Sully, the only problem with the American liberal is that they don’t squat about economics.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I guess I’ll be back…no football talk! LOL…
January 26th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
It’d be funny to see everybody in the Black Hole sporting Mark’s dubious hair do as a show of support
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Now that is fkn funny.
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Now that’s a great idea.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Talking about demise on the internet. Those with the FREE TIME, DISPOSABLE INCOME and INFRASTRUCTURE to be able to sit on a web site talking about sports (a leisure activity)
January 26th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Not a one of you talking back and forth have any idea how hard life is for most of the 7 billion that live on this planet.
All your talk about the demise of this and that….
Going forward, size, scale and wealth will determine what people have an ability to craft their own destiny.
For you frontier guys….a small nation made up of individuals can’t defend itself economically or militarily.
You will get taken over. Every culture in the world that was unable to achieve scale, wealth, education etc….was absorbed either directly or indirectly.
You all should be hoping the USA (us) get this right
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The USA (US) wont get it right, because its policies are being run by someone else.
I think we know who that is, and what true interests they represent.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Romney crushed newt tonight. It is over. The prez will have a major challenge now.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
I guess its time to learn Chinese then…seriously!
January 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Twocents
You’re a stupid arse retard.
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Krappy, remind us again how much you hate name calling.
For laughs.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
football talk?
You have to have a top flight QB to win SB’s in this Era. Since 1993, 2 teams have won without one, Ravens 2001 and Bucs 2003.
We become a playoff team with our new coach, fixing the stanky Defense.
BUT
Until you get that QB, it’s rare to win it all without one.
We should trade CP for Tony Romo,….lol.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“Could it be the real difference between the American liberal and the American conservative is that the American liberal takes full accountability for America’s wrong doing, America’s sins, and seeks redemption, while the American conservative deflects blame and makes excuses?”
What a joke. As my friend the social scientist pointed out, “There is a strong, positive correlation between being liberal and living as far away from poor ethnic people as possible.”
January 26th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Romney’s solution for the economy may as well be to punch himself in the face. 0bama beats either Romney or Gingrich 52%-48. He’ll just outclass Gingrich. Gingrich is already overplaying the “food stamp” thing. He’s no Reagan. Can’t sell it.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Luvmarv, tell that to Newt. He calls 0bama the “food stamp” president. Would these liberals moved far away from ethnic people be on food stamps?
January 26th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Why are The Raiders all weird about coaching announcements?
All secretive and hush hush…
January 26th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
303, Herrera and those clowns still run the p.r. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out why they’re downplaying the obvious regime change there. Bottom line is Allen is signed. Mark and Reggie are in motion. Herrera and Al’s leftover goons can play all the games they want. Frankly, I think Mark is doing that thing where he’s not going to fire them, he’s just going to give them the hint. They’re out. They know where the door is.
January 26th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Our problems are all fixable.
Most people around the world live in utter poverty and despotism.
And if this country melted down as many of you believe.
The replacement will be true totalitarianism….not the make-believe goblins you all make up.
Buck up
January 26th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Like frog face said back during bush-Clinton…. It’s the economy stupid. Independent voters will decide the election. They won’t buy the “it could be worse” campaign. The prez is in trouble against Romney who will appeal to the middle.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
SnB, I never said the country would melt down. Just said we won’t be an empire anymore. We’ll be like England and France, failed empires. Question is, could the American white conservative handle sharing this country’s benefits with people of color? So far we see how they’re taking it. It’s going to be a rough transition. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of them foolishly try to start a revolution against an army that will be backed by Israel and China. lol. Good times. But when that dust settles, they’ll have no choice but to adapt.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Sully said,
“Luvmarv, if what you say is true, it only means they’ll face the music as well. If karma or Christianity exists, you’re not going to get out of damnation or ruin just because someone else did it too. Not how it works.”
I have no idea if it exists, Sully, but you know that wasn’t the point. Everyone noticed that you restricted your comments to this country when historically, as a period in history, we are less defined by slavery and enslavement by class and gender than any other nation on earth. E-V-E-R.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Romney’s going to appeal to the middle, with no economic plan whatsoever, Dakota? I’m sure the middle will definitely relate to the absurdly low tax rate Romney’s paying, despite his wealth. I’m sure the middle will relate to the fact that Romney made it rich through a firm that gutted struggling companies. That just resonates with the middle of those road independents, Dakota.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Luvmarv, I was just saying that no deity would ever fall for your excuse making and deflection of blame when it comes to America’s wrong doing, that’s all.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
No Sulli, we wouldn’t be like England or France. England and France had an American benefactor…without the USA they would have succomed to a superior German technology or Russian muscle…
Our future would be the total dismemberment by enemies foreign and domestic and it wouldn’t be pretty.
I hate thinking about such things because you only get 1 life to live….and having to live that life in survival mode is not something I am remotely interested in finding out.
As for White Conservatives…the only injustice in the USA is the unequal levels of education to our children.
All the other stuff is B.S
January 26th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
SnB, we’d be toast if it weren’t for Israel doing our fighting in the middle east.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I know you hate thinking about those things, SnB. It’s because you know it’s true. If not, why would it bother you anymore than fictional lore?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Thanks Sully…
I just want to see them add cordinators and personnel…
January 26th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
If Peyton Manning is healthy, that will be interesting to see where he plays….
Hope his Brother kicks Belicheats ass….
January 26th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
SnB, we’d also be toast if it weren’t for China’s money. Our empire’s already on credit. Everything that’s happening with us right now is in line with the crumbling of England and France’s empires.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Sully,
I repeat–Romney, a very wealthy man, paid 40% of his 2011 wealth to taxes and charity. Good man.
Besides, I don’t want to take another’s money. I want to earn my own way. Don’t you? I want my children to feel they are obligated to pay their own way. Don’t you? I want my kids to learn the value of being productive, not living off the efforts or even the luck of others, don’t you? And when I die, if there’s anything left, big or small, I want my kids and grandkids to get what I have worked for all my life not strangers who eat bag after bag of Doritos and drink beer (or Purple Drank)while they watch Jerry Springer while their own kids run around in dirty diapers, don’t you?
Americans spend all kinds of money teaching people to fish for themselves, but a growing number don’t want to pick up the rod and bait the hook–too much trouble.
BTW, for a guy who’s into liberalism, I’d think you’d forgo professional sports. After all, a bunch of rich owners, a bunch of spoiled rich athletes who blow their money on materialistic nothingness, and who are, in large measure, bad role models for kids.
Hmmmm.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
P. Manning’s got a few more years in him. Gonna be the story of the off season, that’s for sure.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
“charity”. Ha ha ha!!! Good one.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Lots to look forward to next year. Complete regime change in Oakland. Defensive minded head coach. Wow. Where Manning will play. Already two big things to look forward too this August.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Sully,
“Luvmarv, I was just saying that no deity would ever fall for your excuse making and deflection of blame when it comes to America’s wrong doing, that’s all.”
No, dear, that is not what you “were saying”–go back to your first post on the subject.
And, it wasn’t a “deflection”–just a statement of fact about what you termed “karma”–that if karma catches up with this country, it would have to catch up with Africa, Asia, and all of humanity, even today’s humanity. That’s if you believe in karma, of course.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Wait, 4 years? When was the last time a Raider HC got a 4 year deal?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
LuvMarv, this conversation ended when you tried to morph Romney’s “charity” into the tax debate. Oldest 1 percent tactic in the book. Move along.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Sully,
How’s your depression over the Niners loss?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Unlike angry liberals, independents understand that Romney already paid the highest income tax On his money when he earned it , and the tax rate he is now paying is on investment income, which means he invests his money in companies who give people jobs. Increase his taxes and the other 25% he gives to charities will be reduced and the money that is invested in companies that give people jobs will be decreased.
Independents realize that the more mOney that goes to the government the more they spend.
And people just have to look at Europe to see the fall of those socialized nations to see what the left desires is unsustainable.
Romney is center enough on social issues and on the real issue, the economy , he is able to show he has actual experience In the real world.
The prez falls far short. He controlled congress for two years and couldnt bring the economy back. His promises ring false now that he has proven himself as unable to get the job done.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Big changes in Oakland, Raccoon. I don’t even care if we have a worse record than last year. We have a modern day NFL structure now. GM and HC with clean slates, both endorsed by some pretty big names. Can’t wait.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Dakota, yeah, independents will entirely forget about Bush’s role in what our economy is today. That’s what Republicans like you don’t understand. Independents aren’t stupid.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Sully said.
“LuvMarv, this conversation ended when you tried to morph Romney’s “charity” into the tax debate. Oldest 1 percent tactic in the book. Move along.”
Yes, charity. Lots of it. I give to charity, do you? I don’t give the % of income to charity that Romney did, though. Do you?
Move along? You’re trying to change the subject. Oldest tactic in the book. You’re very transparent. Very needy. Are you married?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
We should draft the best QB available this year with our first pick, btw. Or trade for one. You draft for 3 years down the road. I’d say we will need a QB in 3 years.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Well mr I hope the prez will try running another blame bush campaign. The “I suck , but bush was worse” campaign might have worked, if bush was running, but the people are going to start holding the prez responsible for the state of the nation. They want seine who can get things back on track, and a guy who knows how to trim the fat, make businesses more efficient, and the leave behind a profitable business will be a very appealing candidate to the middle.
Everyone wishes the prez would have turned into the savior he presented himself as, but it just didn’t happen. Time for some hope and change!
January 26th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
I’ll be watching pre-season very closely this coming season for the fact that almost every “trend” we saw this past yr. carried on to the reg. season. Not the final scores; that doesn’t matter, but we saw a defense that was porous and couldn’t stop anybody, some solid offensive output, poor kick covering, lack of depth, etc. etc.
I’ll be looking for this team to show some new “attitude” and i’ll be paying close attention to “adjustments” in the defense- however vanilla it will be.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Anyone but O,IMO
January 26th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Dakota, how would blaming Bush hurt any candidate? Do you have any idea how much of this country hates Bush, and knows he’s to blame for this economy? There is no scientific argument demonstrating that blaming Bush would hurt any candidate. Republicans are just saying don’t blame Bush. I say, blame him! Candidates could get elected into the white house for the next 20 years blaming Bush. And 0bama will get re-elected this year doing so. lol. Like Bush is some sacred figure in America or something. He’s one of America’s favorite punching bags, and will be for a generation.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Anyone but a Republican. Just as in ‘08.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
The prez falls far short. He controlled congress for two years and couldnt bring the economy back.
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I understand you live in Dakota. But there is the internet so please tell me you’re not this naive. You DONT fix an economy in 2 years after it was trashed in 8. It will take at least 20 yrs to fix the schytttt we are in if we dont fugg it up again. Please identify one industry that would rescue America out of this mess right now?
Recession after VN war, rescued by Reagan borrowing money and putting in the defense industry. Yes he borrowed money and spent more.
Recession after the first gulf war, rescued by dotcom
Recession after dotbomb, rescued by the fake mortgage boom
Recession after the fake mortgage boom, rescued by what? I guarantee you that you aint got any answer.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
mrs,We will see,the Marxist can return home,and spew to the birds,anyone but o,imo
January 26th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
0bama got more votes than any presidential candidate in American history blaming Bush, and blaming him often! Yeah. What a failed strategy! Ha ha! Haaaaa!!!!!!!!
January 26th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
lol @ president controlled congress.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
You should really get off Fix News and actually read articles from a few sources.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
When the real unemployment rate, those looking for jobs now and those who have been looking for jobs long enough to just be dropped off the count, when that number is 15.6%, the sitting prez is in deep trouble.
People are no longer looking for a scapegoat like bush, they want someone who can do something about it. Romney is proven that he can accomplish real world growth. The prez doesn’t have a leg tO stand on in that fight.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
0bama never had filibuster proof congress. Some people are so stupid. They just repeat anything they hear on Foxnews.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
The prez is in deep trouble? HA ha!!!! Is he losing to Gingrich or Romney on one single poll yet?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Big changes in Oakland, Raccoon. I don’t even care if we have a worse record than last year. We have a modern day NFL structure now. GM and HC with clean slates, both endorsed by some pretty big names. Can’t wait.
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Yeah I wouldn’t freak if we regressed a little in the win loss column, IF it was for good reason. Like totaly revamping the roster, which would cause a short term lack of talent and production, for futer draft picks. I would not be ok with consistantly poor game management, or lack of preparedness, or low energy on the field.
If we keep 80% of the starters we MUST be 9-7 and in the playoffs or better.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I love how they say our President apologize and appease. Yup he authorized an incursion in Pakistan and apologized to Bin Laden. Then he apologized to his Muslim friends in Africa the other nite too. Seesh.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
0bama wins 52% to 48, against either Gingrich or Romney. Paul goes and does something stupid like run as an independent? 0bama 60%, Paul 20, Gingrich or Romney 20.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Mitt Rommey?
Isnt 0biecare a knock off of Mitt Romneycare? Checked!
He pays 13% on his taxes and was so patriotic he hid his money in the Cayman. Checked!
Newt?
Fat chance. No pun intended.
Paul? I actually like him. But his racist past and his looks will never get him elected. The soccer moms will never vote for him.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
That’s the game they play with the prez, Aig. It’s just like what this Brewer is doing right now. If 0bama had sunk down to her level and fought with her, they’d scold him for acting like a thug, fighting with a girl, etc. He takes the high road, he’s “timid”.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Oh is that what a president needs now, a filibuster proof congress, to get anything done?
What a great leader! Needs all the cards in the deck to win a hand. Do you realize what a pathetic light that places the prez in? Lol
January 26th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
0bama saw that trap with Brewer from a mile away, and just foiled it. Played it perfect. You know he’s got spies in the GOP. It’s not hard to infiltrate them. All you have to do is hate women, minorities, and progress, and you’ll fit right in and they’ll tell you everything.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Anyone but O,Period,can we get back to FOOTBALL?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
We should draft the best QB available this year with our first pick, btw. Or trade for one. You draft for 3 years down the road. I’d say we will need a QB in 3 years.
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In my opinion we need to take 1-2 QB’s evert year until we have a true Franchise QB, and a compotent back up. Nothing is nearly as important to a franchise than the starting QB. That is step one, step 1A is an O- Line
January 26th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
You said he controlled congress, dummy. How do you control congress when your opposition party has power to filibuster? You have to google that, Dakota. They won’t answer that on FoxNews for you.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Oh is that what a president needs now, a filibuster proof congress, to get anything done?
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There are 3 branches of govt. You need all three to get things done. Last that I checked, we aint South America or China.
The president can only do so much with a Congress that has half of its members’ goal is to make sure HE FAILS. I am sure even you are well aware of it. Boehner couldnt even get his group in line to support Boehner’s grand bargain. Dude, do you even understand that?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I don’t think America is quite ready to go back to Republican economics, which Mitt Romney certainly represents.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
oops,Forgot,I love and respect Gov Brewer,you all want bs or the TRUTH,IMO
January 26th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Help me understand how you are ok with paying more % of taxes from your own income than the guy running for President? I assume you are at least in the 20% bracket.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Aig, wasn’t there some memo retrieved where GOP told it’s congress members to reject everything coming from 0bama, no matter what? And with a power to filibuster on top of it. Dakota still thinks 0bama controlled congress just because Dems had the majority. It’s amazing how some people insist on talking politics when they don’t know crap.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Hey the prez deserves much credit for taking out a lot of terrorists. Awesome job on that front. Took a normally weak position for his party and made it a strength.
However, historically, people care about the economy over every other issue. 15.6% real unemployment rate.
If the economy was recovering at a decent rate, the prez would be untouchable, but it isn’t, so the election will be difficult for him. I know you guys wanted newt, but he was swatted away tonight.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Just the fact, that Romney wanted to let GM fail, will beat him.
Now GM is the worlds best selling Automaker, again.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Gov Brewer never graduated from college and it showed her lack of class as a governor. She said she respected teh office of the Pres. If so, why did she grandstanded for the camera yesterday? I am sure the far right loved every minute of it though.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
National security a weak position for Democrats? Who was in the white house on 9/11/2011, Dakota? Who attacked the wrong country in response, gutting our treasury in the process? Dakota do you realize you’re getting dumber with each comment?
January 26th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Nobody will ever look at it as 15.6%. The mainstream media is going to report 8.5%. Only the hardcore right will report it as 15.6%. Obie was never going to get the far right vote anyways.
The question of the day is, are we better off today than we were in 2008? 100% YES.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
However, historically, people care about the economy over every other issue.
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Yep, and everyone remembers how George Bush and the Republicans, ran the country into the ground
January 26th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
9/11/2001, I meant. Who was in the white house then? Hint: NOT a Democrat. So tell me again how strong Republicans are on national defense when the biggest attack in American history happens on their watch, and then they attack the wrong country in response, gutting the treasury and putting the war into the hands of their private contractor buddies in the process? Dakota Republicans just ruined this country. And that’s why 0bama will get reelected and why you won’t see a Republican in the white house again for 20 years.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
They want seine who can get things back on track, and a guy who knows how to trim the fat, make businesses more efficient,
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Under” free-market principles” it is the company’s responsibility to make itself more efficient, not the government.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Until the Republicans come in with better candidates than Paul, Romney, Newt or Rick, Obie is a slamdunk. Print that. I will wager $50 on any of you here that Obie will beat the above four. If Coburn comes in, then he will beat Obie. Until then, none of the above will have any chance.
January 26th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Right, I didn’t hear you guys complaining about the do-nothing congress that sat on it’s hands for the last two years of the bush administration lol.
Selective memory , but that is okay. Keep playing the bush card, it plays well with all your liberal friends but it is falling on deaf ears for the middle.
Good luck with that strategy.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Uh, Dakota, maybe congress did nothing to help Bush because a) he allowed the biggest attack in American history to happen on his watch, b) attacked the wrong country in response, c) gutted the treasury in his war with the wrong country? Bush is lucky they weren’t impeaching him.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
If the economy was recovering at a decent rate, the prez would be untouchable, but it isn’t
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Actually it is. It just happens that the last administration put us in such a deep hole it’s taking a while for us to climb out of it.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Newt Gingrich vs Mitt Romney, 0bama’s got to be relieved.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
The problems with our economy go well beyond the President’s office. This schit has been in the works for years. We will never again have our old booming economy. Write that down. It will never come back. Not if we continue down the path we are going. Large corporations like Walmart have killed the American dream. Go and talk to all the small business owners that have been pushed out by these behemoths that only contribute to the rising rate of folks living in the red and relying on public funds for health care and essential needs.
And then there’s China. Thanks to Nixon, we’re in bed with the devil. We complain about their very well documented human rights issues then turn around and feed the monster by becoming their largest trading partner.
The future isn’t too bright folks. The American Dream is all but dead.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Bright stars for the Right are goign to be Scott Brown and Tom Coburn. One of those 2 guys will win the nomination. Scott Brown will prob lose in Mass to Warren but he is extremely appealing to most American voters in the middle.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Someone posted that Saunders was on his way out but failed to provide a source. Hope that’s not true unless they can make a significant upgrade.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Right, I didn’t hear you guys complaining about the do-nothing congress that sat on it’s hands for the last two years of the bush administration lol.
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This Congress for the last two years has the most filibusters on the record of any Congress in history. A Republican congress.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
I see how you think maddenraider, an attack that happened about eight months into the bush administration is bushes fault, but three years into 0bama administration we are still not allowed to place any responsibilty on him for the current economy. Lol
Sad
January 26th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Dakota, the economy could go into the tank, total depression. 0bama’s still winning. America is not putting a Republican back into the white house for at least 20 years. You know that.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Post 249 is dead on. Very nice.
I’d add Apple to that group too. Sure they are doing R&D here but they are using cheap mfg in China. We’ve got to bring mfg back to states like Ohio. Not sure if that will ever happen though. Intel is investing big time to mfg in Chandler, AZ.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Dakota, Bush was given prior intelligence of the 9/11 attacks. FACT. Common knowledge. That excuse stopped flying years ago. He did nothing. A do-nothing president gets a do-nothing congress. LIke I said, he’s lucky Democrats didn’t impeach him when they took over in ‘06. I don’t know why they didn’t.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
252,bingo
January 26th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Really mr, you justify the do nothing congress based on punishing bush? Funny, I thought they were there to help govern the nation.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Dakota you’ve been wrong about everything tonight. I can’t believe you’re still at it. You’re like a boxer in a corner beaten to a pulp.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Dakota you must have gotten excited because Romney gave some good speech. Let me know when one poll has him beating 0bama, numbnuts.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Mitt Romney running against “0bama-Care” what a joke. Independents see through that.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Really mr, you justify the do nothing congress based on punishing bush? Funny, I thought they were there to help govern the nation.
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Dude this Republican Senate HAS MORE FILIBUSTERS THAN ANY OTHER SENATE EVER!!!!
January 26th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Mitt Romney, stashing money in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. Independents see through that, too.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Let’s see if Dakota comes back for more. All wobbling, beaten to a pulp.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Any idea what the “magical words” are that keep getting my posts marked for “moderation?”
January 26th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Any idea what the “magical words” are that keep getting my posts marked for “moderation?”
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“Friggle frack” usually gets me moderated
January 26th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Any idea what the “magical words” are that keep getting my posts marked for “moderation?”
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@bama
January 26th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
8raider,
You are out of your water here. Once you realize the senate is controlled by the dems and that the repubs have Only been in control of the house for one year then maybe we can talk.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
“Mitt Romney, stashing money in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. Independents see through that, too.”
Stashing? It’s legal. I have some money in a Swiss bank account, KoolKell. I put it in 15 years ago. Little ole me. You too can do it, babe.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
The prez will have a major challenge now.
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“Major challenge” might be overstating things. Mitt is very weak: He has constantly shifted positions (to the point where I don’t think anyone knows what he truly stands for), lost two of the three major races he’s run in, would have lost by double-digits if he’d run for re-election in Massachusetts, and on the GOP’s signature bogeyman issue (”@bamacare”), crafted something very similar when he was Governor.
There’s also Bain Capital, which will be painted as “making million$ by firing people,” and finally an untold number of evangelicals who will refuse to vote for a Mormon. Can’t elect someone who believes in a slightly different imaginary friend in the sky, now can we?
January 26th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
ANYONE but O,blind sheep,IMO
January 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
#265
Same thing is happening to me.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
8raider,
You are out of your water here. Once you realize the senate is controlled by the dems and that the repubs have Only been in control of the house for one year then maybe we can talk.
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Republican Senators. Don’t act stupid.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Oh my, money that has been legally placed in a bank account with all taxes being fully paid! Oh yes that will sink Romney lol.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
8raider,
You are out of your water here. Once you realize the senate is controlled by the dems and that the repubs have Only been in control of the house for one year then maybe we can talk.
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ughhhhh!!!!! dude, here you go…..per wiki
Senate
Main article: Filibuster in the United States Senate
In the United States Senate, rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless “three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn”[36] (usually 60 out of 100 senators) brings debate to a close by invoking cloture under Senate Rule XXII.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Any idea what the “magical words” are that keep getting my posts marked for “moderation?”
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@bama
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Yup. That was it. Ridiculous that inserting the name of the President of the United States will cause a post to be blocked. When he has the 2013 Raiders to the White House after the Super Bowl win, will we have to call him “Pres Whatshisface?”
January 26th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Hendu Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
ANYONE but O,blind sheep,IMO
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Veeeery Intelligent. (sarcasm)
January 26th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Dakota you clearly don’t get it. Look at Dakota purport to speak for independents when he’s doing nothing but speak for Republicans.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Thank God there aren’t a bunch of blog dweebos talking politics on a football blog!
Anyway, keeping things on topic, I just received a spectacular BJ while cranking Kajagoogoo’s “Too Shy”. The irony was sweet.
After the tramp left for her shift at Spearmint Rhino, I smoked some weed, ate a tub of Quarterback Crunch from Baskin Robbins and dropped a duece a mule would be proud of.
Now watching the Clip Joint Take the Wiz out of the Griz (patent pending) and grilling up some lobster tails on my hibachi.
It is thurs night after all, represent
January 26th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Virginia and N. Carolina much more diverse now, two states 0bama won in 2008. A lot of med. sized cities in Ohio and Fla have grown larger, more ethnically and culturally diverse. The angry racists in those states don’t have the pull they used to.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
This article explains a lot of why people act the way they do….
“Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs…..”
http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html
January 26th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Oh my, money that has been legally placed in a bank account with all taxes being fully paid! Oh yes that will sink Romney lol.
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The President of the United Stated, stashing money in foreign countries?
Get a clue.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
kk,one of the sheep,So smart,NOT
January 26th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Leave it to the dems to have a majority in both the house and the senate for two years and coming off a huge election, and still complain about not having enough power to get anything done! I don’t believe reagan had a republican controlled congress his entire two terms yet he managed to get things pushed through. I thought the prez was a great leader?
Kinda weak and pathetic politically speaking.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Republicans make their money on the uninformed. That’s why they hate College Professors and Public
education.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Part of the GOP’s problem is that the Prez is a formidable campaigner, probably the best since Kennedy (and maybe even better). There’s a reason the GOP A-listers (Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie, Haley Barbour, Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan) all sat this one out.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Fannie and Freddie–affirmative action in housing loans that caused the housing collapse, and yes, Bush, along with Franklin Raines, Barney (I am getting married soon ) Frank, Maxine Watters and the Dems were all over this.
Ever since his days as Gov. of Texas, Bush believed that people who owned their own homes would create better neighborhoods. (Too bad he didn’t realize that they should have to be able to afford them). Of course, his buddy, Karl Rove, thought this would get him votes too, but Bush believed in the policy as “compassionate conservatism.” Truly.
However, he was stupid, and the others were feathering their minority nests, trolling for votes. You don’t give people something that’s worth a lot for free or for very little. That’s true whether it’s giving your kid a new video game or giving people a house with little to no down payment.
Lots of people love to blame the banks and brokerage firms, but early in the game, they were actually ORDERED to give these loans to people who, in previous years, would be considered bad risks. It was simply too easy to conclude that housing values would continue to rise, something sane people would have questioned, but beyond that, you need to require a decent down payment.
Both parties were to blame for that. The Pres, the Dem-controlled Fanny and Freddie. Fanny and Freddie need to be gradually phased out. For good. Forever and ever.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Part of the GOP’s problem is that the Prez is a formidable campaigner, probably the best since Kennedy (and maybe even better). There’s a reason the GOP A-listers (Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie, Haley Barbour, Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan) all sat this one out.
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Yep.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Leave it to the dems to have a majority in both the house and the senate for two years and coming off a huge election, and still complain about not having enough power to get anything done! I don’t believe reagan had a republican controlled congress his entire two terms yet he managed to get things pushed through. I thought the prez was a great leader?
Kinda weak and pathetic politically speaking.
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Part of it is the increasing reliance on the threat of a filibuster. Now, having 60 Senators is pretty much a requirement for any major piece of legislation. If you don’t have 60 votes, then you’re not getting it passed.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
KrappyKell, the King of the Trolls, what are doing up so late trolling for political blog talk?
Shouldn’t you be warming up some bath water for KrappyWife and her bunyuns?
Poor woman needs that nightly soak or she won’t be able to fit into her panty hose tomorrow.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Dakota is kickin youre ASS,Im out,and Well done!
January 26th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I don’t believe reagan had a republican controlled congress his entire two terms yet he managed to get things pushed through. I thought the prez was a great leader?
Kinda weak and pathetic politically speaking.
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Again. I love debunking your myths on politics.
1. Reagan and Oneil actually would have drinks together after 5pm. Oneil actually had his crew on a tight leash so Reagan can negotiate with Oneil and know that Oneil will deliver. Boehner and his crew? NOPE.
2. I doubt Oneil was ever quoted that his number 1 priority is to make sure Reagan fails.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
2. I doubt Oneil was ever quoted that his number 1 priority is to make sure Reagan fails.
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Quite the opposite. Tip believed that since Reagan was elected President, his agenda deserved a fair hearing and an up-or-down vote. Boehner and co. do not extend our current President the same courtesy. They just plain don’t.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Hendu Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Dakota is kickin youre ASS,Im out,and Well done!
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Dude can barely put together a sentence.
Republicans make their money on the uninformed. That’s why they hate College Professors and Public education.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Anyone see Krappy call 2 Cents a retard earlier?
So awesome, coming from a blog troll who hates name calling!
January 26th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Post 287, very well written.
I am still in the mortgage industry (in whole sale) and yes fannie/freddy are still being exploited. I see it from my brokers all the time. You can actually still get a 1% or 3% downpayment mortgage. They do need to be phased out. You can let their fate be decided by the market but that would mean some MAJOR SHORT TERM pains (and I mean at least 5 yrs). I doubt there are enough politicians with balls to support the short term pains.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Homies, keep an eye out for my hot new rap album, Wrecks N Effect, coming soon!
Hype is building, just bought a black BMW that my housekeeper is going to drive into the Bay for added publicity.
Should put my likes on facebook through the roof.
TWIZZLE MY DIZZLE
January 26th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Oh we need a super majority in congress to even take a piss!
Cry me a river.
Face it, the left had all the cards and they couldn’t even get their own party on board to pass their agenda. You blew your chance lol.
You blew it like the undefeated patriots and now the sad reality that the president is no savior is crashing home.
Night my liberal friends!
January 26th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Looks like we’re sticking with the 4-3 which makes sense bu McClockup needs to go. Wondering who the DC will be.. Another year of chain my brethren but I see the rainbow.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Post 287, very well written.
I am still in the mortgage industry (in whole sale) and yes fannie/freddy are still being exploited. I see it from my brokers all the time. You can actually still get a 1% or 3% downpayment mortgage. They do need to be phased out. You can let their fate be decided by the market but that would mean some MAJOR SHORT TERM pains (and I mean at least 5 yrs). I doubt there are enough politicians with balls to support the short term pains.
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A few months back, someone claiming to work with Fannie and Freddie posted on (I think) The Consumerist. He stated that he had just killed a proposed home loan for a single mother with two kids and a car payment who was GROSSING $2K/month. Everyone was mad at him for nixing it, but he rightly felt that she’d be late the first month, later the second month, and wouldn’t have the whole payment for the third month, which means they’d foreclose and everybody would be right back where they started. What would be the point? He couldn’t believe that ANYBODY had thought trying to sell this woman a house was a good idea.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Can the Raiders please announce this on their frikin website? Makes me think Al is still calling the shots.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Gnight, Dakota! Keep working that burrito cart!
Brahs my manager just announced I might be doing a few super secret SF shows on the Wrecks N Effect publicity tour.
Obviously will be traveling with my security team, the Beeech Dawgettes (4 totally wasted strippers) and my man on the turntable, DJ 10 Toes.
We’ll be bringing the heat, now just gotta lock down that Bartles & James sponsorship
January 26th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Can the Raiders please announce this on their frikin website? Makes me think Al is still calling the shots.
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It IS a little ridiculous. Nothing on their Twitter page either, but we are getting a lot of updates from the Raiderettes in Honolulu.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Oh and one more thing….how soon you forget the landslide 2010 election….no I am sure all those independent voters who kicked the dems out of congress have now been somehow satisfied that the dems can get the job done lol.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Oh and one more thing….how soon you forget the landslide 2010 election….no I am sure all those independent voters who kicked the dems out of congress have now been somehow satisfied that the dems can get the job done lol.
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Yeah, LOL LOL LOL LOL. Gnite funny guy.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
They are hot though, just sayin.. Want to rub on basically all of them.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
8raider,
You are out of your water here. Once you realize the senate is controlled by the dems and that the repubs have Only been in control of the house for one year then maybe we can talk.
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It takes 1 US Senator to filibuster. Are you smarter than an eighth grader?
January 26th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
MR, you going to the Pig Bowl?
January 26th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Dakota Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Leave it to the dems to have a majority in both the house and the senate for two years and coming off a huge election, and still com plain about not having enough power to get anything done! I don’t believe reagan had a republican controlled congress his entire two terms yet he managed to get things pushed through. I thought the prez was a great leader?
Kinda weak and pathetic politically speaking.
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I think what is more pathetic is the Republicans ignoring the will of the people to happen
January 26th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Post 287, very well written.
I am still in the mortgage industry (in whole sale) and yes fannie/freddy are still being exploited. I see it from my brokers all the time. You can actually still get a 1% or 3% downpayment mortgage. They do need to be phased out. You can let their fate be decided by the market but that would mean some MAJOR SHORT TERM pains (and I mean at least 5 yrs). I doubt there are enough politicians with balls to support the short term pains.
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A few months back, someone claiming to work with Fannie and Freddie posted on (I think) The Consumerist. He stated that he had just killed a proposed home loan for a single mother with two kids and a car payment who was GROSSING $2K/month. Everyone was mad at him for nixing it, but he rightly felt that she’d be late the first month, later the second month, and wouldn’t have the whole payment for the third month, which means they’d foreclose and everybody would be right back where they started. What would be the point? He couldn’t believe that ANYBODY had thought trying to sell this woman a house was a good idea.
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I heard something similar from my tax guy the other day. Unbelievable, isn’t it?
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January 27th, 2012 at 1:18 am
Luvmarvhub Says:
January 26th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
“If you believe in karma, you have to believe that at some point America has to face some kind of demise for slaughter of native Americans, enslavement of blacks, etc. We can tell people to put it behind them. But if there’s such thing as karma, everyone pays.”
If you’re right, it appear the whole world will face such karma, esp. those who are still practicing slavery.
First, take the entire of the African continent, a place where slavery has always existed, as far as we can tell. All the descendants of those tribes who sold the members of others tribes into slavery would face such karma.
However, we needn’t look to centuries ago for the enslavement of peoples by other peoples. Much of the African continent still practices slavery and the stealing of children from other tribes to use as slaves and as sacrifices to their gods.(Yes, they kill them). They also steal adults to use as barter or to use as slaves. And, we can’t forget the practice of female circumcision. God, the whole of Africa is, therefore, doomed, having to face karma.
Then, there’s Asia, of course, where slavery is still practiced, from north Asia to Southeast Asia, where the sex slave practices make a lot of money for the practitioners.
Ahhh, humanity.
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Uh, you’re leaving out the complete control of Africa and genocide of its people since the 1600s by England, and the monarchy, silly.
Generations of British race patriots declared the British Empire the finest empire on earth and made sure that it would encircle the globe again. Your largely stereotyped arguments dont enclude the encirclement and OWNERSHIP, i.e. “Theft” of the Congo, by Leopold the 2nd, nor the complete utter theft by diamond merchants such as the DeBeers Dynasty, and the division of Africa by the European Monarchies, which advanced slavery – through equally corrupt africans and of course, JEWS. (some of whom traffic human organs from Haiti to this day).
These kind of childish, misinformed statements and complete absence of real history is what is destroying America from within.
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January 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Racist people suck!! GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!