Fassel gone, Knapp invited back
By Steve Corkran
Monday, January 30th, 2012 at 11:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Dennis Allen today acknowledged that Al Saunders is under contract with the Raiders. From there, he talked more about what he wanted from an offensive coordinator and not what Saunders might offer.
Perhaps that had to do with the fact that Allen had offered the job to Houston Texans quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp, who held that title here in 2007 and ‘08 under Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable.
Fox Sports’ Alex Marvez said late Monday night that Knapp has been offered the job. No word yet on whether Knapp said yes or if he intends to accept the post held by Saunders last season.
“The type of offensive coordinator I’m looking for is, really, at the end of the day, the same things I talked about offensively and what we want to do,” Allen said. “We want to be a up-tempo offense that can run the ball and be explosive in the passing game. So those are the things that we’re looking for, for guys that can get that accomplished.”
Knapp played a hand in developing rookie quarterback T.J. Yates this season, once starter Matt Schaub and backup Matt Leinart suffered season-ending injuries.
Knapp, 48, was with the Raiders in 2007, when their offense ranked 23rd in points per game and 25th in yards per game. He was stripped of his play-calling duties late in the 2008 season, when interim coach Tom Cable felt the need to take over.
Knapp bolted for the Seattle Seahawks in 2009 and spent the past two seasons with the Texans. Allen and Knapp worked together in Atlanta in 2004-05.
In other news, Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com reported that special teams coach John Fassel has signed with the St. Louis Rams. Fassel spent the past three seasons with the Raiders.
Previously, defensive line coach Mike Waufle and wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal signed with the Rams and New York Jets. respectively.
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January 30th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Eh, new era
January 30th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Wow, it really is lonely at the top.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Knapp? We couldn’t the ball when he was here ..right?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Move*…(wish, slow down your typing too fast)
January 30th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
I wonder how the Al Davis faction of the Raider Nation are going to handle us running a defensive oriented system in the foreseeable future. Our offense will be designed to run high percentage plays, take less risks, give the D rest. No more gambling, and making off season moves for speedy receivers and has-been QBs.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
I Suck.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Oh crap! Knapp! This is getting worse and worse.
We SUCKED on offense with him as offensive coordinator!
WTF are we doing here? Why can’t we keep a good offense and build the defense. It’s like 1 step forward…1 step back…maybe 2 steps back.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Best case scenario we’re like Tampa a decade ago. Worst case scenario is we’re kind of like da Bears…meaning we’re good, but just boring and not good enough to win it all.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Maverick, we were an offensive team when Knapp was here the first time. We’re a defensive team now. Different system. Knapp will be expected to keep the ball on the field, score about 17 points per game. Last time he was here, he was expected to score 90 points a game. Under Al’s offense…
January 30th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
keep the ball on offense, I meant. Goodnight. Why can’t this blog have an edit function?
January 30th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Knapp hasn’t been successful as OC since 2003. He had a few good years in San Fran.
Other than that. SUCK
January 30th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Knapp? Really? Good grief. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Fire Mark bring back Al.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Jerry seems to think Knapp will run system more like Green Bay rather than the dink, dunks, and roll outs he made famous (more like infamous) here the first time.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Ok, so I was just able to watch a little of the presser, and did anybody else notice that Allen has the “crazy eye” thing going on? He was so wide eyed that it looked like he was going to jump out and start yelling “AGGRESSIVE! AGGRESSIVE! AGGRESSIVE!” at the reporters or something…
January 30th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Never seen this place so empty…
January 30th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Knapp! Fuuuuuuuuuuu@@@@kkkkkkk!!!!!
January 30th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
For those shortsighted people out there, let’s not forget JaMungus Russell was our QB under Knapp. I don’t think GOD himself would have produced an offense. Knapp wouldn’t have been my #1 choice, but seriously, the talent in ‘07 and ‘08 SUCKED!!!
January 30th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Re: Greg Knapp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc&feature=related
January 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
30. Greg Knapp / Seahawks
Injuries have to be taken into consideration given a hard-hit offensive line, but evaluators were not quick to give Knapp a pass for the offense’s shortcomings.
SCOUT’S TAKE: “Knapp runs a ball-control offense to the hilt. You don’t see creativity to go downfield or open it up as far as big plays go. I think a lot of that is tied into the quarterback (Matt Hasselbeck), but historically that has always been his game. It probably hurt that offense this year because they did not have the personnel to have sustained drives. They needed to get the ball downfield more — and it forced the quarterback into a lot of bad situations.” … “They could not run at all. The quarterback quit on them. (Knapp) did a terrible job, and it is the reason why Mora was fired and should have been fired.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/11/ranking-the-offensive-coordinators
January 30th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
I say let coach Allen find HIS guys. It really is about accountability, from Mark Davis, to Reggie McKenzie, down to every head coach, and all 53 players. The entire organization needs to preach and believe in winning Super Bowls, forget about rebuilding. Dennis Allen and HIS staff might not make it happen next year, but the Raiders have to make playoffs. It will be interesting to see if Reggie commits to HIS guy, or lets him go if the Raiders miss the playoffs next year. My gut says he’ll commit. And that’s a change I hope fans can understand is the best way to do business.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Just watched the press conference and I must say that I am excited. DAllen and Big Mac handled that press conference masterfully. Big Mac seemed a lot more comfortable than in his first press conference and had some real good answers; especially the last question on if he’d pick the players and Allen would handle all the coaching, where he responded by saying it will be a team effort.
As for Dennis Allen, the man talked like a general. Like a guy that was already in charge. A guy that knows exactly how he wants to run things. Says what he means and means what he says. None of the questions seemed to phase him.
And look at Big Mac in all black. Playah status!
January 30th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Great point, #18. Heck, we could have had Sean Payton and our offense would have sucked with JaDumass at the helm. Talk about being handcuffed as a coach. The coaches couldn’t wait to get rid of his azz.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
As for Fassel leaving, don’t let the door hit you on the azz.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Great point, #18. Heck, we could have had Sean Payton and our offense would have sucked with JaDumass at the helm. Talk about being handcuffed as a coach. The coaches couldn’t wait to get rid of his azz.
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Yes, but unfortunately Knapp went on to stink just as bad in Seattle. Sucked so bad he caused the whole coaching staff to get fired.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:00 am
Head Coach FINALLY gets to choose his own staff and the 1st thing he does is f’k it up.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:19 am
You already mentioned he had good years in SF. He also improved Atlanta’s O when he took that job. Improved Seattle too. Not by much, but it was an improvement from the previous year.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:21 am
2008 Raiders under Greg Knapp
Offensive Ranking – #32
Quarterback – JaMeatloaf Russell
Running Back – Justin Fargas (DMAC was injured most of that year)
Recieving Leader – Zach Miller 778 yards 1 TD.
Top Wide Receiver – JLH 366 yards 4 TD.
Tom Cable, Head Coach.
This is who he had to work with. He didn’t have much better prospects in Seattle either.
Not saying he is my first choice. I would much rather keep Al Saunders.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:24 am
Not that I’m excited about the hire. I’m just not going to be doom and gloom about it either. He’s improved most the offense most everywhere he’s been. And based on what I’ve seen from so far, I’m trusting our new coach’s judgement. He certainly knows more football than you and I combined.
If it doesn’t work out, then he deserves to be judged on it.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:25 am
He had a brainless dummy posing as an NFL QB and a human wrecking ball at RB. Pretty bleak, friends.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:27 am
I don’t see what the big deal is with Mark Davis’s hair. Frankly I think it’s childish to sit there and insult people based on their physical appearance. From this angle, his hair looks quite normal.
http://bit.ly/w5AKMC
January 31st, 2012 at 12:28 am
Knapp? Really? I thought this was a new era? Knapp is old news. And he wasn’t all that good to begin with.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:28 am
And you have to credit Knapp with how the backup QB played after the Texans lost their star starter. Not too shabby.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:31 am
It will be wait and see for Knapp,but it is a good thing Fassel is gone.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:40 am
That would be horrible if the defense turns around and we basically have the Chuck B of offense.
I can’t rely on any stats that involve Jawalrus, so he gets the benefit of the doubt until I see things fall apart. But all I ask of any coordinators of ours is to please do what Hue did and realize that DMac is our offense and it must go through him, even if that only lasts through week 10.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:41 am
Yates was hardly prolific, an fostor an tate leadingnthe charge, but yeah he did ok, so credit knapp i guess….
Im not feeling good about the mcfadden rumours, please keep him i know the blahblah rara injury thing, he aint 25 yet,
January 31st, 2012 at 12:45 am
Blackmamba – We can’t expect Knapp to get a prolific performance from Yates. My point was just that he backup was well prepared to lead the team into the playoffs. They didn’t have the dropoff you’d expect from losing their starting QB. The wheels friggin fell off here in Oakland when we had to play our backup.
January 31st, 2012 at 12:52 am
Yea your right, in preparing him he did well, poor choice of words on my part, the wheels always fall of for the nation, seems so long since soup was dinking us up field, an darren ooh an ahhring us in the endzone…
January 31st, 2012 at 12:54 am
Wasbanned Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 12:00 am
Head Coach FINALLY gets to choose his own staff and the 1st thing he does is f’k it up.
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I’m thinking the same thing. Al would have done better than this guy… Wait Al did hire this guy or did Lance? Or uh did Al hire Lane or did I?
Maybe Saunders Playbook and influence and Knapps Ball security will combine to form the Greatest Offense Ever, or maybe not just 3yards and a pile of dust and an occasional screen to Reece.
January 31st, 2012 at 1:17 am
This green Butter mixed in instant oakmeal cookie dough is the bees knees.!!
January 31st, 2012 at 1:17 am
And tight ends coach Adam Henry has left as well to go to the college ranks
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Another one bites the dust hope we keep Wiz1 R.Woodson K.Skipper
January 31st, 2012 at 1:20 am
I think Saunders will request his termination; if Knapp refuses the job; no way he wants to be Dennis’ 2nd choice
January 31st, 2012 at 1:21 am
Knapp returns as OC, Breshnahan promoted to assistant head coach
January 31st, 2012 at 1:24 am
Strike one for Dennis the Menace
January 31st, 2012 at 1:26 am
#37, we never really gave our back up a chance;
Mr. Boller held his own finished off the victory against Cleveland;
Hue had Carson split reps with the 1st team offense, cutting Bollers reps in half, even ran some plays with Pryor, who had been suspended up to then;
Boller leads the team to a first and goal; Hue runs 3 straight times; on 4th and goal Hue calls a wild cat with Bush taking the snap,
Boller was never given a real shot.
January 31st, 2012 at 1:30 am
I seem to recall Fred Flinstone stripped Knapp of play-calling duties, lets hope he declines the offer
January 31st, 2012 at 1:40 am
When finally got out a bad situation, it gets worse. No matter I will str!!!!!!!!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 1:53 am
Good morning Raider Nation, ah what few post I put on here. I was one of the let the gm and coach make there mark.Pick there guys but ah Im not feeling good at all with greg knapp. Dude there has to be some young new offensive coordinator greg knapp. The raider fans need good decisions and this is a big one already .
January 31st, 2012 at 2:09 am
The only reason I can think that Knapp is going to be OC is because Allen wants to trade DMAC for picks, Knapp will run West Coast Offense with Zone Blocking scheme where its not supposed to matter who the running back is
January 31st, 2012 at 2:33 am
MakeItRain , I hear ya. Somethings I was worried we might lose tha is raider football and the west coast offense has never been my thing. Power running and taking shots the raider way. Ah some of this change might be tough. Can you imagine the o linemen another change back to zone blocking and teh funny thing is we let some guys go last year just to find more power running linemen
January 31st, 2012 at 3:09 am
I pray that Knapp rejects the job offer. Dennis Allen can do so much better at OC (and DC). But this goes back to what I said last week. We took too long hiring Allen, that by the time he was official, most of the good position coaches and co-ordinators had all taken up jobs with other teams, and now teams like the raiders and buccaneers have to scramble to grab someone – as opposed to hiring someone they specifically wanted – just like reggie targeting and getting Allen.
January 31st, 2012 at 3:53 am
Rise n shine (yawning),,, DA considering Gregg (take a) Knapp as OC scares me a little but it could be worse I guess (Phil McCoy). But if that means going back zbs, that also means we may have to completely redo the O-line again and be forced to keep CC, (rrrh). If it happens I just hope the offense will mentally be on board having to learn another playbook,,,again. But then again who else is out there for OC? Now if DA brings back Chuck Bresnahan then we’ll be in major trouble, and my heart can’t take another year of that sh?t.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:31 am
I really hoped we would had kept Saunders, I would like to see what he could do on offense without Hue effing up the playcallng..
Fassels gone is not good either!
January 31st, 2012 at 4:38 am
The ZBS is where it’s at!!!!
McKenzie comes from the Packers, who are a ZBS team, and there offense seems to be fine.
I tried to tell you guys all year, that the notion that we went back to some “power” blocking offense last year was a joke.
We were still doing a lot of ZBS stuff.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:51 am
Whoever our OC is, I knew it wouldn’t be Saunders, I am confident they will score more points than Hue’s offense last year, without the turnovers, and of course the penalties.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:57 am
JFB,,,I hope you’re right,,now the question is do we want another year with CC, and is Gregg Knapp really the answer for us? I’m lil nervous about that.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:58 am
Cooper Carlisle hasn’t missed a snap in two years.
I hope they give him an extension!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:04 am
Khalif Barnes was supposed to be some type of “power” blocker, and he was God Awful.
Meanwhile, undersized athletic O-lineman like Veldheer and Carlisle were our best offensive lineman.
Wiz 2.0 is a guy who may be better served in the ZBS as well, as he is not a huge drive-blocker, at least that was the reports on him coming out of college.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:08 am
The Texans, with a 3rd string hack of a QB, went into Baltimore with Knapp and the ZBS, and pushed them around the field and ran for more yards than anybody has ever run on the Ravens in the playoffs, and in any game in years.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:10 am
Good morning Nation!! I’ve been begging for some kind of indication on coordinator prospects, cant say I’m thrilled with what I learned this morning about Knapp…
One poster did make a great comment about the level of talent (or lack thereof) that Knapp dealt with in his first stint with Oakland. In short, Japorka$$ Russell..
This is a much improved O-line, RB and WR corps to work with… Just wished Saunders was kept around for continuity…
Anyone think there is a chance Al S. sticks around as some sort of assistant/consultant to Knapp??
January 31st, 2012 at 5:15 am
Anyone think there is a chance Al S. sticks around as some sort of assistant/consultant to Knapp??
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Yes.
Al Saunders turns 65 tomorrow. No matter where he goes, this should be his progression.
Do we want an OC who is on Medicare?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:16 am
20.wasbanned Says:
January 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
30. Greg Knapp / Seahawks
Injuries have to be taken into consideration given a hard-hit offensive line, but evaluators were not quick to give Knapp a pass for the offense’s shortcomings.
SCOUT’S TAKE: “Knapp runs a ball-control offense to the hilt. You don’t see creativity to go downfield or open it up as far as big plays go. I think a lot of that is tied into the quarterback (Matt Hasselbeck), but historically that has always been his game. It probably hurt that offense this year because they did not have the personnel to have sustained drives. They needed to get the ball downfield more — and it forced the quarterback into a lot of bad situations.” … “They could not run at all. The quarterback quit on them. (Knapp) did a terrible job, and it is the reason why Mora was fired and should have been fired.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/11/ranking-the-offensive-coordinators
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Notice #29 on this list. In 2009, JaMarcus’ supporting cast (OL, RBs, WRs, and offensive coaching staff) was the worst in the history of the NFL! And it’s not even close.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:23 am
I’ve always said that we never should have let Knapp go to Seattle in the first place. By the end of 2008, the offense was humming and he had JaMarcus playing very well. Even during the bad games, he and JR were joined at the hip after every offensive series. I think he did a hell of a job here. Trading he and John DeFillipo out for Buddy Whackit and Ted Tollner was a mistake that cost JR and Cable their jobs.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:40 am
29. Tom Cable / Raiders (head coach)
JaMarcus Russell will handcuff any offense, and the inability to extract any consistent production from the QB position limited the offense, but evaluators questioned what Cable was able to do even without Russell in the lineup.
SCOUT’S TAKE: “(Cable) has not been able to develop any pattern of consistency outside of knowing they are going to run the ball all the time. The reality is that their passing game has been very inept, to the point of futility, and it is not just the lack of productivity at the quarterback position. It is one of those offenses where if they are not playing well on defense, you know they are not going to generate enough points to beat you.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/11/ranking-the-offensive-coordinators
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Blame JR all you want. I’ll go with the “coaches” on this one.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:44 am
Only Cable found work immediately, and Jamarcus hasn’t.
But I like Knapp, and think he will get D Moore 75+ catches next season.
And Palmer will be a top 10 QB.
The ZBS may prefer the more atheltic O-lineman, but these teams (like the Texans) want a brute of a FB, like we had with Oren O’neil during our full-on ZBS years.
Not sure what a switch to a fully embraced ZBS means for Reece as the FB.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:45 am
I don’t care who we have as offensive coordinator, I just want to WIN!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:46 am
Not sure I would want Knapp back…but I guess Allen is familiar with him…oh well…back to mediocrity!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:48 am
I don’t care if we win games 6 to 3 or 10 to 7, I just want to win.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:50 am
If the Raiders go 12-4 or 11-5, nobody will remember how we won those games.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:53 am
I haven’t been this excited for a Raiders season in awhile.
Love the direction we are going with things.
Next step is the draft, and the trading of a player or two (will happen) and the restructuring and/or cutting of some overpaid underperformers.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:44 am
Only Cable found work immediately, and Jamarcus hasn’t.
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Cable was demoted, and rightly so. JR hasn’t found work, yet.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:55 am
Yet, lol.
He will NEVER find work in the NFL without going to a lower-tier league first.
Jamarcus’ “demotion” was one of the greatest “demotions” in the history of sports.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:56 am
Wait…Knapp was ranked behind Cable? Is that thing for real???
January 31st, 2012 at 5:56 am
72.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:55 am
Yet, lol.
He will NEVER find work in the NFL without going to a lower-tier league first.
Jamarcus’ “demotion” was one of the greatest “demotions” in the history of sports.
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Cable’s was the greatest.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:00 am
AS WE ALL KNOW,ON ANY COACH AND/OR PLAYER,1/2 THE PEOPLE HERE WILL LIKE THEM,1/2 WONT.THE OTHER 1/2 DONT COUNT..GOOD MORNING NATION..
January 31st, 2012 at 6:01 am
Cable’s was the greatest.
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Don’t be stupid. He is still recieving an NFL pay-check and having someone else contribute to his pension. Hell, Hue Jackson is falling down the ranks farther than Cable.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:04 am
2 full seasons have passed since JRuss was cut. At this point it should be obvious that he isn’t coming back. I mean look at the teams that had QB injuries this year, Russell wasn’t brought in by ANY of them.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:05 am
Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com reported that special teams coach John Fassel has signed with the St. Louis Rams. Fassel spent the past three seasons with the Raiders
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Jeff Fisher stole “Bones” as well?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:05 am
So ok…if Knapp takes this job…who you guys think the DC will be? Friggen Manusky?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 am
Jamarcus Russell said HIMSELF in his SI article, he didn’t want to come back last year.
Yet Debo was in here saying this team and that team will give him a look, lol.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 am
So much for all that Packers West talk huh?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:07 am
Happy Birthday to BSJ!
And to Greg Skrepenak! A great Raider and Wolverine.
Also of note: today may be the greatest single birthday in the history of baseball: Jackie Robinson, Ernie Banks and Nolan Ryan.
Let’s play two!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:07 am
Greg Knapp for OC?
he’s a bit too conservative for me. I understand Dennis Allen expressing interest, but to offer him the job already? who was he competing against?
to be fair … GK was saddled with JaMarcus Russell last time around
January 31st, 2012 at 6:08 am
Adios Fassel. You SUCKED! Coverages and returns were abysmal.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:08 am
76.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:01 am
Cable’s was the greatest.
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Don’t be stupid. He is still recieving an NFL pay-check and having someone else contribute to his pension. Hell, Hue Jackson is falling down the ranks farther than Cable.
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He can collect checks and contribute to his pension all he wants and he’ll still never have as much money as JR. As for Hue vs Cable, apples and oranges. Offensive mind vs offensive monkey. Feel pretty safe that the “scouts” see it my way. Hue will be just fine.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:09 am
Jamarcus Russell said HIMSELF in his SI article, he didn’t want to come back last year.
Yet Debo was in here saying this team and that team will give him a look
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JFB,
I think Debo said there will be a “bidding war” for Russell’s services this offseason, didn’t he?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:10 am
Hue Jackson fired himself. I mentioned on this blog early last season that Hue needed to put that play calling card down and let Al Sanders call the plays. I like what Dennis Allen said about letting his coordinators do their jobs. Allen said he is going to manage the game and that’s what head coaches are suppose to do. Most successful head coaches don’t call plays.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 am
“…and he’ll still never have as much money as JR.”
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Just shows you what Debo values. It ain’t winning, that’s for sure.
Debo, you got a poster on your bedroom wall of JaMonstrous wearing that fur coat by the Lear jet?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:13 am
Greg Knapp for OC?
he’s a bit too conservative for me. I understand Dennis Allen expressing interest, but to offer him the job already? who was he competing against?
to be fair … GK was saddled with JaMarcus Russell last time around
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His offense wasn’t very conservative in Houston. It WAS here, but they had to limit the playbook to about 30 plays for Russell. I think it will be a LOT different with the weaponry we have now.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:13 am
with Greg Knapp, I assume we’re switching back to the ZBS and Cooper Carlisle will be retained.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:14 am
80.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 am
Jamarcus Russell said HIMSELF in his SI article, he didn’t want to come back last year.
Yet Debo was in here saying this team and that team will give him a look, lol.
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Already got looks before Seal Team Six raided his house for that bottle of Robitussin. Can’t blame the guy for taking a deep breath after the sht storm he was in here. But he possesses a golden arm. He will get another shot.
When did I say “this
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am
88.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 am
“…and he’ll still never have as much money as JR.”
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Just shows you what Debo values. It ain’t winning, that’s for sure.
Debo, you got a poster on your bedroom wall of JaMonstrous wearing that fur coat by the Lear jet?
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That pic was cool as Hell. The fur and shades he wore after we blew out Denver in 2008 were classic. We had the second coming of Joe Namath and completely fcked it up!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am
You got a point Bcz…how was his offensive ranks with Garcia and Owens?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am
Greg Knapp Zone Blocming scheme once again LMBO!!!!!
That is what I call change! Get back Knapp!!!!
I see 7 wins MAX this year. If you all think this is an upgrade from Saunders or even Hue Jackson, good luck.
This team will be a rebuilding joke once again!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:18 am
I gotta roll actually, and do it another day.
Raider On
January 31st, 2012 at 6:18 am
If he isn’t on a team when training camp opens this year, he never will be. Even you won’t be able to deny that after 3 years he is NEVER coming back.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:20 am
Why Knapp?????
To develop Pryor?
I just don’t get it.
back to zone blocking with DMAC and Bush? Well at least they know how to read zone blocks. I think I am going to be sick.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:20 am
LMAO. When JaWalrus took a “deep breath”?
I thought he had ass apnea?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:23 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am
That pic was cool as Hell. The fur and shades he wore after we blew out Denver in 2008 were classic. We had the second coming of Joe Namath and completely fcked it up!
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You are a fool. JaMammoth was only there to suck start the plane engines with one of his “deep breaths”.
And Joe Namath backed it up. Russell just ate, drank and sucked.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:23 am
I don’t think your OC determines your Oline. Our youngest, most valuable Olineman are big dudes, not really ZBS guys. I would say Satele and Carlisle are the only ZBS guys left. They will build from what they have, not start over.
You guys way over-react some times. Its rumored we are talking to Greg Knapp OMG ITS ANOTHER 4-12 STINKER OMG OMG REGGIE IS SO STUPID ALLEN IS AN IDIOT…. relax. It ain’t even February.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:23 am
Hold on guys…has KNapp been confirmed???
January 31st, 2012 at 6:24 am
DID I JUST READ JAMARCUSS RUSSELL & JOE NAMATH IN THE SAME SENTENCE ?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:25 am
In all fairness…who else is out there? Read yesterday that Denver and KC denied permission for Allen to talk to his guys that he wanted…You guys think Carmichael will walk through that door?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:25 am
They better keep Wylie.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
102.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:24 am
DID I JUST READ JAMARCUSS RUSSELL & JOE NAMATH IN THE SAME SENTENCE ?
LOL, Yes you did! Good Morning Dirt Lot!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
Maybe Knapp can talk management into giving Russell another try out and Knapp can bring him along as a back up with Pryor?
I mean Russell can’t be blamed for all the loses. He did not have alot of talent on that team.
LOL!!!! Knapp again? Really???? Knapp? I would be shocked if Knapp came back after hsi stay here with the Raiders, but who knows.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
RAIDER_NATION
Why judge Knapp based on two seasons with Jamarcus Russell as his QB?
7 minutes ago from Twitter for Android
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Exactly. Nobody could have looked good running Kiffin’s offense with JaPaycheck taking the snaps and handing off to Fargas. If you look at Knapp’s career as OC, he does well when he has offensive weapons. He’ll have those here.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
96.bcz24 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:18 am
If he isn’t on a team when training camp opens this year, he never will be. Even you won’t be able to deny that after 3 years he is NEVER coming back.
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It’s all up to JR. If he wants back in, it’s a done deal. There are a lot of smart guys in the league who know the guy was in a no-win situation here, just like every other player that has played for the Raiders the last decade. Combine that fact with his legendary arm talent and you’ve got yourself a second chance.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
We gotta have at least ONE coach old enough to remember Jim Otto…
January 31st, 2012 at 6:29 am
Knapp also had McClown and Culpepper before HAVING to go with JaMarcus! But, that is not saying much! That’s why I asked…what was his offense rankings with Garcia and TO?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:30 am
107.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
RAIDER_NATION
Why judge Knapp based on two seasons with Jamarcus Russell as his QB?
7 minutes ago from Twitter for Android
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Exactly. Nobody could have looked good running Kiffin’s offense with JaPaycheck taking the snaps and handing off to Fargas. If you look at Knapp’s career as OC, he does well when he has offensive weapons. He’ll have those here.
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WHy judge Hue jackson after one year with all the injured players he had from week to week? We can’t have it both ways.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:31 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
96.bcz24 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:18 am
If he isn’t on a team when training camp opens this year, he never will be. Even you won’t be able to deny that after 3 years he is NEVER coming back.
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It’s all up to JR. If he wants back in, it’s a done deal. There are a lot of smart guys in the league who know the guy was in a no-win situation here, just like every other player that has played for the Raiders the last decade. Combine that fact with his legendary arm talent and you’ve got yourself a second chance.
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Really? In an NFL where JOSH MCCOWN was signed off the street and put in the starting lineup, yet nobody’s even given JaFat@ass a second look? Keep dreaming, buddy.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:32 am
I think once the Raiders announce they are moving to LA in a new stadium they are going to get all types of coaches wanting to jump aboard.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:33 am
Morning Nation!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:34 am
107.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
RAIDER_NATION
Why judge Knapp based on two seasons with Jamarcus Russell as his QB?
7 minutes ago from Twitter for Android
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Exactly. Nobody could have looked good running Kiffin’s offense with JaPaycheck taking the snaps and handing off to Fargas. If you look at Knapp’s career as OC, he does well when he has offensive weapons. He’ll have those here.
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Only problem is that JR looked damn good running it the last six games of 2008. We went 3-3 with a blowout at Denver and two consecutive wins to end the season over a hot Houston team and at Tampa, with the Bucs needing the win to make the playoffs. He essentially retired Guden and Garcia with that victory. JR had a 92 QB rating during that stretch, better than Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Letting Knapp and DeFillipo out the door after that season was a huge mistake.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:34 am
They better not make that same mistake twice, CJ…seriously! But I get your sarcasm!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:34 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:32 am
I think once the Raiders announce they are moving to LA in a new stadium they are going to get all types of coaches wanting to jump aboard.
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Especially now that the “Colosseum City” idea is dead. Is Oakland run by a bunch of incompetent morons, or what???
January 31st, 2012 at 6:37 am
Collosseum City is dead? Already?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:37 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:34 am
107.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
RAIDER_NATION
Why judge Knapp based on two seasons with Jamarcus Russell as his QB?
7 minutes ago from Twitter for Android
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Exactly. Nobody could have looked good running Kiffin’s offense with JaPaycheck taking the snaps and handing off to Fargas. If you look at Knapp’s career as OC, he does well when he has offensive weapons. He’ll have those here.
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Only problem is that JR looked damn good running it the last six games of 2008. We went 3-3 with a blowout at Denver and two consecutive wins to end the season over a hot Houston team and at Tampa, with the Bucs needing the win to make the playoffs. He essentially retired Guden and Garcia with that victory. JR had a 92 QB rating during that stretch, better than Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Letting Knapp and DeFillipo out the door after that season was a huge mistake.
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Yes, he did look good for stretches in 2008…then he just quit trying. 2009 was a disaster, and the kicker was when they had their final meeting with him after the season, they asked him to lose 10-15 pounds before minicamp. He showed up at minicamp…having GAINED 20 pounds. That’s when Cable, Tollner and Hackett went to Al and said “Dude’s not even TRYING.”
January 31st, 2012 at 6:40 am
Bcz24 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:37 am
Collosseum City is dead? Already?
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Yeah, they’re going to try to “revitalize” O.co instead.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:42 am
I hope they offered him a job as QB coach. OC makes me cringe… Morning Nation.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:42 am
That means the focus is solely on revamping the O.co Coliseum complex with retail, restaurants, hotels and new sports facilities for the Raiders and Warriors.
The Coliseum City may be dead, but that is because Jacka** Wolff doesn’t want to stay there…there are in talks of moving along without the A’s…although they do want to keep them!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:43 am
Sorry, here’s the link…
http://www.mercurynews.com/oakland-as-move/ci_19854839
January 31st, 2012 at 6:44 am
119.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:37 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:34 am
107.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 am
RAIDER_NATION
Why judge Knapp based on two seasons with Jamarcus Russell as his QB?
7 minutes ago from Twitter for Android
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Exactly. Nobody could have looked good running Kiffin’s offense with JaPaycheck taking the snaps and handing off to Fargas. If you look at Knapp’s career as OC, he does well when he has offensive weapons. He’ll have those here.
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Only problem is that JR looked damn good running it the last six games of 2008. We went 3-3 with a blowout at Denver and two consecutive wins to end the season over a hot Houston team and at Tampa, with the Bucs needing the win to make the playoffs. He essentially retired Guden and Garcia with that victory. JR had a 92 QB rating during that stretch, better than Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Letting Knapp and DeFillipo out the door after that season was a huge mistake.
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Yes, he did look good for stretches in 2008…then he just quit trying. 2009 was a disaster, and the kicker was when they had their final meeting with him after the season, they asked him to lose 10-15 pounds before minicamp. He showed up at minicamp…having GAINED 20 pounds. That’s when Cable, Tollner and Hackett went to Al and said “Dude’s not even TRYING.”
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Quit trying? What a joke! 2009 was a disaster because Tom Cable had no clue what he was doing on offense. JR was in his second year and playing with rookies at WR. And one of those rookies was DHB! Tom Cable’s incompetence hurt the offense a Hell of a lot more than a few extra pounds put on in the OFFSEASON!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:45 am
His offense wasn’t very conservative in Houston. It WAS here, but they had to limit the playbook to about 30 plays for Russell. I think it will be a LOT different with the weaponry we have now.
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BCZ,
Gary Kubiak & Rick Dennison get all the credit for Houston’s offense. Knapp was QB Coach. He gets credit for developing and working with Schaub, Leinart & Yates. Not taking anything away from him, I think he’s a good coach – but he wasn’t the OC
January 31st, 2012 at 6:45 am
Unless Houston was willing to give him up…I don’t think Allen could have offered him QB Coach!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:46 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:44 am
Quit trying? What a joke! 2009 was a disaster because Tom Cable had no clue what he was doing on offense. JR was in his second year and playing with rookies at WR. And one of those rookies was DHB! Tom Cable’s incompetence hurt the offense a Hell of a lot more than a few extra pounds put on in the OFFSEASON!
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Which explains why the team played so better for Gradkowski and even CHARLIE FRYE, for that matter.
Face it. Russell’s a crybaby chump.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:47 am
Wait…are we really arguing over JaMarcus??? Come on people, he is not gonna walk through that door again!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:45 am
His offense wasn’t very conservative in Houston. It WAS here, but they had to limit the playbook to about 30 plays for Russell. I think it will be a LOT different with the weaponry we have now.
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Yup. I remember Campbell’s first camp, when Zach Miller was quoted as saying it was so nice to have a starting QB who actually knew the playbook and formations FOR A CHANGE.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:48 am
Hmm. I remember how I felt last year when Al hired Bresh. I hated it. I hated it because of what I remembered of Chuky B’s defenses…
I dont feel the same way on Knapp. He was OC on a very unstable team with very poor coaches and undeveloped players. today we have a solid core of vets on O, perhaps they are ready to execute Knapp’s brand of O.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:49 am
Also, didn’t Al even say that he had no choice but to cut him because he wasn’t trying? And Al never cuts his first rounders, let alone #1 after 3 years!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:49 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:47 am
Wait…are we really arguing over JaMarcus??? Come on people, he is not gonna walk through that door again!
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Don’t blame me. Debo is one who keeps comparing him to Namath and saying there’ll be a BIDDING WAR (lulz) for his “services” next year…
January 31st, 2012 at 6:50 am
I know, Duck…I know…
January 31st, 2012 at 6:50 am
Knapp now would have better personnel , he’s not stupid, and either is Teggie or The D.A.
Moore, DHB, Ford, CP3, Knapp is excited to come back! Explosive on Offense!!
Knapp had Fat JaMarcus and Fargas, who wouldn’t suck with that Personnel?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:51 am
Jamarcus might become a serviceable janitor…one day.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:54 am
I wanna know who the DC is gonna be. I’m ok with Knapp if that is the guy.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:54 am
deal done knapp as oc , tweeted by lacanfora
January 31st, 2012 at 6:54 am
GET YOUR #2 JERSEY’S NOW..
January 31st, 2012 at 6:54 am
Jason La Canfora
Greg Knapp has agreed to deal to become Raiders offensive coordinator #insideslant
2 minutes ago from Twitter for BlackBerry®
January 31st, 2012 at 6:54 am
JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Greg Knapp has agreed to deal to become Raiders offensive coordinator #insideslant
January 31st, 2012 at 6:55 am
Gotta say this. That O-line in Houston is the best in the league, hands down awesome. Reminds me of Jimmy Johnson’s Dallas O-line.
Knapp wont have that here. dammm!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:55 am
SO WHAT’S UP WITH SAUNDERS ?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:56 am
You’ll hear me use that word a lot, aggressiveness, and I think that’s critical in the game of football. We want to be fast, we want to be up-temp.
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This statement alone from Coach Allen gets me pumped up! Reminds me of the teams we had back in the day, attacking on both sides of the ball.
Too many times this past season it took the team to long to line up. I would be yelling for more hurry up offense to keep the D on their heels.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:56 am
127.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:46 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:44 am
Quit trying? What a joke! 2009 was a disaster because Tom Cable had no clue what he was doing on offense. JR was in his second year and playing with rookies at WR. And one of those rookies was DHB! Tom Cable’s incompetence hurt the offense a Hell of a lot more than a few extra pounds put on in the OFFSEASON!
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127.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:46 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:44 am
Quit trying? What a joke! 2009 was a disaster because Tom Cable had no clue what he was doing on offense. JR was in his second year and playing with rookies at WR. And one of those rookies was DHB! Tom Cable’s incompetence hurt the offense a Hell of a lot more than a few extra pounds put on in the OFFSEASON!
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Which explains why the team played so better for Gradkowski and even CHARLIE FRYE, for that matter.
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This is one of the greatest myths going on the blog today. Did you actually watch any of the games Scabs or Frye played that season? You, like so many other sheep Raider fans, have been blinded by one miracle quarter against a Steeler team that had lost three straight games, including being dominated by Cleveland (this isn’t a joke) just the week before. Scabs replaced JR at halftime against the Jets. How did that work out? How did we look against Dallas on Tanksgiving or against the Bengals? How did Frye look against Cleveland, a game JR should have started after his heroics in the victory at Denver the week before? I know it’s hard to come to grips with, but JR wasn’t to blame for all the offensive woes. As is the case with just about every team, it started at the top.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:57 am
Saunders will continue his prior job scouting for retirement homes…..oooooooo yeaaaaaaaaaah!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:59 am
Greg Knapp?? I thought Allen said he wanted an aggresive up tempo offense? Knapp = opposite
January 31st, 2012 at 7:01 am
Wow. Someone is actually taking Jamarcus side, even though Jamarcus never took a side, he just sat there getting fatter and dumber by the minute, looking confused at the clock, hoping the game would end soon.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:02 am
Ok, so Knapp it is! Haven’t we learned from bringing coaches back? Well, I will run with it because he is back with the Raiders, but…who will be our DC?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:03 am
Not a fan of this hire at all, primarly for the reason Carl Weathers says at #146. Knapp is not the first name I think of when I think of an attacking offense.
It’ll mean more high percentage throws for Palmer, which should cut down on the INTs but at the same time, Palmer’s big arm & ability to fit balls into tight windows will go to waste.
That said, I’m willing to give him a chance because now he’ll have a real QB to work with instead of the unholy trinity of McCown/Culpepper/Russell and being caught in the middle of the Kiffin/Davis/Cable circus.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:05 am
Allen wants smart, ball control and uptempo on offense 2/3 can be had with knapp. Allen will fill that 1/3 for uptempo. We can say all we want but when we start winning consistantly all will be good and everyone will be happy.. Go Raiders
January 31st, 2012 at 7:05 am
thats the spirit hwnrdr.. lol
January 31st, 2012 at 7:07 am
Wait, didn’t we beat Cinci that year, and Frye was the one who got us close, and JaMarcus just found Murphy in the end zone on 4th down…after almost fumbling the ball away on third down…
Point is, the team has moved on without him and has gotten better…now what would have impressed me if he was with Hue and improved! I guess we won’t know…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:07 am
Allen might boost Knapp’s offense by insisting on a more attacking style, but it’s looking to me that the gameplan is going to be a conservative offense that can generally score just enough points to win and an aggressive all-out attack defense that can generate turnovers and give the offense good field position.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:08 am
Knapps offense last time was limited by personnel. Lets see what he does with our current offense which compared to the last group of guys he worked is like comparing Nuclear tipped Tomahawks to a slingshot…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:08 am
Knapp?!?!
Really?!?!?!?!
What’s next?? Keeping Chucky as DC?!?!?!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:09 am
Wait, didn’t we beat Cinci that year
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We beat cincy because we forced a fumble on a kickoff inside their 20 with like 1 minute to go… lol
January 31st, 2012 at 7:09 am
155.Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:08 am
Knapp?!?!
Really?!?!?!?!
What’s next?? Keeping Chucky as DC?!?!?!
If Chucky is kept…there will be a riot at Alameda!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:10 am
156.bcz24 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:09 am
Wait, didn’t we beat Cinci that year
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We beat cincy because we forced a fumble on a kickoff inside their 20 with like 1 minute to go… lol
That’s right…forgot about that
January 31st, 2012 at 7:10 am
Why Knapp? Was Tom Wash busy managing another B&B?
Why not bring back Cable too?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:10 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:03 am
Not a fan of this hire at all, primarly for the reason Carl Weathers says at #146. Knapp is not the first name I think of when I think of an attacking offense.
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Would you prefer Mike Martz?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:10 am
Knapp?!?!
Really?!?!?!?!
What’s next?? Keeping Chucky as DC?!?!?!
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Dont Jinx it!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:10 am
Who was playing QB for us that game? Was it Frye, Grads, or JR…those years were blurs!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:11 am
As relying on winning the field postion battle with Lechler at the helm booming those kicks. Glad Fassel is gone bring in a coach that will keep these guys in their lanes to many big returns allowed this year. Our return game was sorry as well, I know JFord was hurt but damn couldn’t produce anything on kick returns
January 31st, 2012 at 7:11 am
Martz retired didn’t he?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:11 am
Hwnrdr,
If he keeps Chucky, I will go to Alameda myself…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:12 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:08 am
Knapp?!?!
Really?!?!?!?!
What’s next?? Keeping Chucky as DC?!?!?!
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that would be Ed Donatell of the Niners. He’s was the defensive backs coach, and he could include 3-4 hybrid/4-3 schemes for the defense. Bill Johnson (DT coach for Saints could be another)
another name for OC if Knapp declines would be Jeremy Bates.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 am
Agree. Glad Fassel is gone. Special teams shined because of skill of our kickers, not coaching of the unit.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 am
Chucky B is gone folks, don’t worry. You think Allen would want his fingers anywhere near his new baby?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 am
C’mon man!!!!
Knapp?!?!
I thought D Allen wanted an EXPLOSIVE offense!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:14 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:11 am
Martz retired didn’t he?
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They all say that…Martz was interested in being head coach and Jerry Porter
wanted him..but that was long ago…maybe he’s hung it up for good.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:14 am
Anyone but Knapp!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 am
I knew the second Allen started stuttering when asked about Saunders that he was gone as OC. I can’t say I’m excited about Knapp. All my Shehawk fan friends will be laughing at me.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 am
408RAIDER Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:54 am
JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Greg Knapp has agreed to deal to become Raiders offensive coordinator #insideslan
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Knapp it is…onto the DC, next… could it be…gasp Emmitt Thomas?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 am
Sam, I believe Knapp is a done deal, based on Jason LaConfora’s tweet!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:16 am
Whomever is brought in as OC it looks as if Al Saunders wil be kept to run out his final year in his contract and be a consultant and/or QB coach.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:16 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 am
Agree. Glad Fassel is gone. Special teams shined because of skill of our kickers, not coaching of the unit.
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Ford broke off a few KOR with that special teams group Fassel coached – 2 wins were instrumental – KC in OT in 2010, and the Cleveland game in 2011
January 31st, 2012 at 7:16 am
The Texans run Kubiak’s offense, they have for the last few years, and Knapp had nothing to do with that offense other than coaching QBs.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:17 am
I heard Emmitt Thomas is staying in KC! I think they declined interview….I guess they didn’t want Allen tearing apart the AFC West!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:17 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 am
Sam, I believe Knapp is a done deal, based on Jason LaConfora’s tweet!
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Got it. (sigh), well, maybe they make it more aggressive?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:17 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:07 am
Wait, didn’t we beat Cinci that year, and Frye was the one who got us close, and JaMarcus just found Murphy in the end zone on 4th down…after almost fumbling the ball away on third down…
Point is, the team has moved on without him and has gotten better…now what would have impressed me if he was with Hue and improved! I guess we won’t know
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You guess we won’t know???? Of course he would have improved. Just like Joe Flaco, Darren McFadden and DHB all improved under Jackson! One of these days, all the sheep will understand just how dismal our coaching situation was between Kiffin and Hue.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:18 am
Saunders taking over by week 5!
Print that!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:19 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:16 am
The Texans run Kubiak’s offense, they have for the last few years, and Knapp had nothing to do with that offense other than coaching QBs.
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Strange hire. Knapp ran the ZBS here in Oakland under Cable and Kiffin. He also ran it in Atlanta…that possibly means Carlisile and Satele will be back as they are athletic enough to pull in that system….one really good idea would be to get a deal to get the Texans Ben Tate if Bush leaves via Free agency.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:20 am
If we are going to bring anyone back, I rather have Hue as my OC over Knapp.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:20 am
Point is, Debo…he is no longer here! The what if game won’t matter! Even if Allen wanted to give him another look…Russell won’t come back here! Didn’t he say he wanted revenge on the Raiders? It’s been two years…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:21 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:20 am
If we are going to bring anyone back, I rather have Hue as my OC over Knapp.
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This is the youngest coach in the league, so it’ll be interesting to see how much control he will really exert. Did he really bring up Sean Payton as a mentor in the PC? What the heck was up with Knapp.? He was at Atlanta, and..Vick didnt really light it up until he left and got under Andy Reid and Morningweg.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:22 am
Sam,
Great point about the ZBS. Vegas predicted that. I hate it when he is right.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:22 am
Greg Knapp Zone Blocming scheme once again LMBO!!!!!
That is what I call change! Get back Knapp!!!!
I see 7 wins MAX this year. If you all think this is an upgrade from Saunders or even Hue Jackson, good luck.
This team will be a rebuilding joke once again!
Why Knapp?????
To develop Pryor?
I just don’t get it.
back to zone blocking with DMAC and Bush? Well at least they know how to read zone blocks. I think I am going to be sick.
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CJL,
99% of Raider Nation wanted an experiened OC & DC since we have a Rookie GM & Rookie HC
Knapp has experience and a solid resume. I’ll take a 48 year old guy from the playoff Texans squad that Allen trusts and has worked with before over a 64 year old guy who was a holdover from Jackson’s staff!
Saunders hasn’t been a successful OC since his KC days
January 31st, 2012 at 7:23 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:20 am
Point is, Debo…he is no longer here! The what if game won’t matter! Even if Allen wanted to give him another look…Russell won’t come back here! Didn’t he say he wanted revenge on the Raiders? It’s been two years…
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Russell isn’t even associated with Football, now.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:23 am
D Allen said he wanted an explosive offense. Knapp is known for being a conservative OC.
Makes no sense to me.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 am
Knapp has experience and a solid resume. I’ll take a 48 year old guy from the playoff Texans squad that Allen trusts and has worked with before over a 64 year old guy who was a holdover from Jackson’s staff!
Saunders hasn’t been a successful OC since his KC days
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Hoping Wiz and the OL dont go, either..the line was highly ranked as giving up the least sacks….
January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 am
Post 113,,,, careful CJ you don’t wana wake up the angry bears by talking about the inevitable move thats gona take place in a year or two.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 am
And Jerry just tweeted it that Knapp has agreed! Well, Rockstar does have a point…Knapp is experience, but…so does Suanders…I think its the point of bringing in “his” guys!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:23 am
D Allen said he wanted an explosive offense. Knapp is known for being a conservative OC.
Makes no sense to me.
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Ok, he mentions Sean Payton as a mentor…he was obviously uptempo…so why wouldnt he give Pete Carmichael a look? Carmichael was a HC candidate…wondering if Bowles saw the tea leaves and said, screw this, I’m going to Philly
January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 am
RR,
Knapp is not a successful OC.
Saunders > Knapp
January 31st, 2012 at 7:28 am
I would be ok with Knapp depending on who is DC! Well, we got no choice really!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 am
Sam,
Exactly. Why not offer Carmichael the job, or did he? Carmichael may have dating no thx.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:32 am
I think once the Raiders announce they are moving to LA in a new stadium they are going to get all types of coaches wanting to jump aboard.
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For the millionth time. The commish said..he wanted the Niners and Raiders to share a stadium (the same way the Jets and Giants do) – the visiting teams would split the revenues among BOTH AFC and NFC teams in the same season , thus making more for the clubs. L.A., as usual, has too many chefs in the kitchen, which is why they failed before with Roski and Katzenberg having those two competing bids, and the Texans ended up getting approved.
Until GROUND is broken, the thing is paid for, nobody is going anywhere. It could be the Los Angeles Rams AND the L.A. Chargers before its the L.A. Raiders.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 am
187.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:22 am
Greg Knapp Zone Blocming scheme once again LMBO!!!!!
That is what I call change! Get back Knapp!!!!
I see 7 wins MAX this year. If you all think this is an upgrade from Saunders or even Hue Jackson, good luck.
This team will be a rebuilding joke once again!
Why Knapp?????
To develop Pryor?
I just don’t get it.
back to zone blocking with DMAC and Bush? Well at least they know how to read zone blocks. I think I am going to be sick.
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CJL,
99% of Raider Nation wanted an experiened OC & DC since we have a Rookie GM & Rookie HC
Knapp has experience and a solid resume. I’ll take a 48 year old guy from the playoff Texans squad that Allen trusts and has worked with before over a 64 year old guy who was a holdover from Jackson’s staff!
Saunders hasn’t been a successful OC since his KC days
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I hear you RR but you know what? Before all of the injuries our offense was looking pretty good. Even after the injuries we were still putting enough points on the board to win the game. Our run game was on fire. I don’t recall our run game looking that good under Knapp. If I recall it was as lethargic as our passing attack. Lets be honest we did not get a strong run game until Hue Jackson arrived on the scene people, like it or not.
Our stinking defense was holding us back 90% of the games. Last year, and the bone headed penalties.
I know Allen worked with Knapp and trusted Knapp but we have seen this show pony once at the fair alredy. I hope I am wrong but right now I am not excited one bit.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:30 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 am
Sam,
Exactly. Why not offer Carmichael the job, or did he? Carmichael may have dating no thx.
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True. I’m honestly stunned on the hire, but McKenzie said, the guy can pick his own staff.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:09 am
Jamarcus Russell said HIMSELF in his SI article, he didn’t want to come back last year.
Yet Debo was in here saying this team and that team will give him a look
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JFB,
I think Debo said there will be a “bidding war” for Russell’s services this offseason, didn’t he?
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The bidding war is for the JaMarcus Russell motivational speaker curcuit sponsorship.
I beleive the highest bid right now is up to 4 dollars and 2 bottles of purple drank.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:30 am
We finally had a good offense, and now we hire Knapp?!
What has Knapp done in this league to be called successful?!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:31 am
I let my daughter pick her own toys till she asks for a knife, Then I have to say no.
Just say no Reggie!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:31 am
Well, Knapp is Allens first hire…so…Knapp better be on watch teh whole time here!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:32 am
202.Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:31 am
I let my daughter pick her own toys till she asks for a knife, Then I have to say no.
Just say no Reggie!
Good One!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:33 am
197.RaiderSam Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:32 am
I think once the Raiders announce they are moving to LA in a new stadium they are going to get all types of coaches wanting to jump aboard.
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For the millionth time. The commish said..he wanted the Niners and Raiders to share a stadium (the same way the Jets and Giants do) – the visiting teams would split the revenues among BOTH AFC and NFC teams in the same season , thus making more for the clubs. L.A., as usual, has too many chefs in the kitchen, which is why they failed before with Roski and Katzenberg having those two competing bids, and the Texans ended up getting approved.
Until GROUND is broken, the thing is paid for, nobody is going anywhere. It could be the Los Angeles Rams AND the L.A. Chargers before its the L.A. Raiders.
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LMAO!!! The last time Oakland and SF was at the same stadium people were stabbed, shot and beat down or sjust stabbed and beat down or just shot and beat down. You get my drift they were assulted. You know Al Jr. Wants a new stadium. He wants what ever his Dad did not want. He is making a name for himself now. Well except for allowing his head coach to put Knapp back on the team. Puke!!!!!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:33 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 am
RR,
Knapp is not a successful OC.
Saunders > Knapp
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Why am I having these nightmares of Carson Palmer holding on to the ball and taking sacks, then taking off his chin strap in disgust.
bio; is currently the offensive coordinator for the Oakland Raiders of the of the National Football League. This is his second stint in Oakland. Previously he was the quarterbacks coach for the Houston Texans, and before that the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. He was named to the position in January 2009 by new head coach Jim L. Mora. Knapp, whose forte is the West coast offense, was offensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons from 2003-2006 under former coach Jim L. Mora. Prior to joining the Falcons, Knapp spent nine years in various positions with the San Francisco 49ers, which include Offensive Coordinator from 2001–2003, Quarterbacks Coach from 1998–2000 and Offensive Quality Control from 1995-1997.”
source; wikipedia
Well, they did light it up with T.O. and Jeff Garcia back in 2002, before getting dismissed by the Giants in the playoffs – maybe Knapp gets his mojo back?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 am
Offical!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82678765/article/texans-knapp-accepts-offer-to-become-raiders-oc?module=HP11_headline_stack
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 am
Definitely like this Dennis Allen guy, hopefully he knows what he’s doing.
The Texans offensive system has been in place for years, I doubt Greg Knapp had much to with their success except for getting Yates to play decent ball, not an easy task by the way.
But it’s hard to understand how Allen kept mentioning the Saints offense and offered the job to Knapp, not a lot of similarities there.
If we are adjusting our blocking scheme back to primarily ZBS, we do have the athletic players to pull it off, Veldheer, Wiz, Satele and Carslile can all move.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 am
Adios Fassel. You SUCKED! Coverages and returns were abysmal.
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Either you dont realize that he was our ST coach for three seasons or you have a very short memory. We lost some key players on ST this past year both to injuries and to waivers.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
Marley Bob Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 am
Definitely like this Dennis Allen guy, hopefully he knows what he’s doing.
The Texans offensive system has been in place for years, I doubt Greg Knapp had much to with their success except for getting Yates to play decent ball, not an easy task by the way.
But it’s hard to understand how Allen kept mentioning the Saints offense and offered the job to Knapp, not a lot of similarities there.
If we are adjusting our blocking scheme back to primarily ZBS, we do have the athletic players to pull it off, Veldheer, Wiz, Satele and Carslile can all move.
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“hopefully, he knows what he’s doing” – that is going to be an echo chamber all year. Poole, Silver and Kawakami will be ALL OVER this guy if they dont get off to a fast start….
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
Maybe, Maybe, Maybe, Maybe…..
maybe we need to rename this team the Oakland or LA MAYBES next year.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:38 am
Winning is the one cure all …When we start tallying them up on the win column all will be good Nation!! New Days in Oakland, gone are the days when the Raiders lose games by shooting themselves in the foot. Teams are going to earn their stripes againsts the Raiders. Just Crush Em Baby!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:38 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
Maybe, Maybe, Maybe, Maybe…..
maybe we need to rename this team the Oakland or LA MAYBES next year.
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8-8 back to back will do that to you – especially after two coaching changes after posting that record….
January 31st, 2012 at 7:40 am
210.Marley Bob Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.
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And they should Marley this rehire of average coaching terms is getting ridiculous.
I mean I get the whole hire who you are comfortable with but come on man. At least have the track record with thte team to go with it.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:41 am
I hope the Oline becomes multiple like how Allen said the D will look…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:41 am
Calirock83 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:38 am
Winning is the one cure all …When we start tallying them up on the win column all will be good Nation!! New Days in Oakland, gone are the days when the Raiders lose games by shooting themselves in the foot. Teams are going to earn their stripes againsts the Raiders. Just Crush Em Baby!!
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Only problem with that is, how do you motivate overpaid players, who haven’t turned the corner and have struggled with the same problems dating back to 2009. Mac has to hit some home runs with some undrafted players and every draft pick to bench some of these higher priced guys.
thats what infuriated me about the Sterling thing, the Pats have 18 undrafted players – they reward on merit – Ocho Cinco is on the bench in that system, they have hobbits like Woodhead, Edelman and Welker BALLING.
He’s got to light a fire under some of these guys, put a gun to their heads, SOMETHING!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:43 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:40 am
210.Marley Bob Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.
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And they should Marley this rehire of average coaching terms is getting ridiculous.
I mean I get the whole hire who you are comfortable with but come on man. At least have the track record with thte team to go with it.
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Precisely, and some of the players will be thinking the same thing. Its so difficult to win over guys and get them to ride with you…Is Palmer thinking “What did I get myself into?”
January 31st, 2012 at 7:44 am
Funny, is after watching the presser yesterday…Allen reminds me of the guy “Psycho” from Stripes…”Don’t ever call me Francis!” LOL
January 31st, 2012 at 7:46 am
Did anyone ever think about this.
What would this team look like if we just kept Cable, kept Knapp and let them play through 4 years. With the players we have on this team now. Do you honestly think they could not have acheived a 8-8 season?
Or how about Cable HC, Hue Jackson OC, and Knapp QB coach?
Thank God we got a GM and I hope he does not fire coaches every year or two like Al did. Can you see how this hurt the franchise in the big picture?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:46 am
Let’s just hope Gregg (take a) Knapp absorbed Kubiaks playcalling tendencies and the players put forth an effort to execute them. I guess this means no more punt and fg fakes every game, and no more double reverses.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:49 am
218.RaiderSam Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:43 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:40 am
210.Marley Bob Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.
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And they should Marley this rehire of average coaching terms is getting ridiculous.
I mean I get the whole hire who you are comfortable with but come on man. At least have the track record with thte team to go with it.
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Precisely, and some of the players will be thinking the same thing. Its so difficult to win over guys and get them to ride with you…Is Palmer thinking “What did I get myself into?”
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Palmer is thinking about retirement or Palmer is thinking West Coast Offense? Bombs away!!! 2-3 INTs a game book it! Will make a great throw then a What the %#*??? throw the next.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:50 am
Hwnrdr,
Sometime it’s better to smile/ laugh than to get angry on issues you can’t control.
I learned that the hard way.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:51 am
I don’t think your OC determines your Oline. Our youngest, most valuable Olineman are big dudes, not really ZBS guys. I would say Satele and Carlisle are the only ZBS guys left. They will build from what they have, not start over.
You guys way over-react some times. Its rumored we are talking to Greg Knapp OMG ITS ANOTHER 4-12 STINKER OMG OMG REGGIE IS SO STUPID ALLEN IS AN IDIOT…. relax. It ain’t even February.
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BCZ,
Agree with your 2nd comment. A ton of semi pro’s are freaking out right now – sour grapes from the Kiffin/Cable era, I guess
I think your OC does determine your O-Line though. Maybe not the players, but definately the system & scheme. McKenzie & Allen will get us some players. Knapp & Wylie (???) will coach’em up. I don’t see Veldheer, Wiz or Carlisle going anywhere. Satele will probably return as well. The rest can go kick rocks imo
Knapp = ZBS everywhere he’s been since 2004. Doubtful that changes in 2012!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:51 am
The problem with Knapp is not just his body of work. The problem is that with a new Offensive Coordinator is that he has to learn the strengths and weakness of his personnel. If we are lucky it will take a half a season. Offering Knapp the job is an indication that Coach Allen is in rebuilding mode, not reloading mode. It’s going to take at least 2-3 years to build an 8-8 team.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:53 am
Sam,
Wasn’t the WC system one of the reasons Palmer wanted out of Cincinnati? I wonder how Palmer feels about this hire, and is he still excited about next season?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:54 am
221.Pretty Rick Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:46 am
Let’s just hope Gregg (take a) Knapp absorbed Kubiaks playcalling tendencies and the players put forth an effort to execute them. I guess this means no more punt and fg fakes every game, and no more double reverses.
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P. Rick Hue did way to many trick plays at times but you know what after dealing with the lame offense we had for the last 5 plus years. I enjoyed some of the trick plays. WRs with speed love reverses and a number of them did work. And we did a fake field goal and we did score! The GB call was a bad call but the way our D was being blew out it really did not matter. The funny thing is on all of the fakes the players were in position to make plays they just did not do it. The fake field goal near the ned of the season the back was wide open, defense was tricked and the ball was over thrown. But yeah, Hue could have done less trick plays but I don’t think it would have saved his job.
Hue is a good O Coordinator, we will see him again on another team.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:54 am
RR,
Damn right I’m freaking out. So should you!
January 31st, 2012 at 8:02 am
I hear you RR but you know what? Before all of the injuries our offense was looking pretty good. Even after the injuries we were still putting enough points on the board to win the game. Our run game was on fire. I don’t recall our run game looking that good under Knapp. If I recall it was as lethargic as our passing attack. Lets be honest we did not get a strong run game until Hue Jackson arrived on the scene people, like it or not.
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CJL,
We were EXCELLENT at running the football in 2007 with Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes & Echemandu! 6th in the NFL!
10th in the NFL @ Rushing in 2008..
Al Saunders doesn’t get any credit for our offense the past 2 years. Hue Jackson was the play caller. He punched his own ticket outta town, so no use crying over spilled milk. Saunders was basically the QB Coach last year. Keeping him doesn’t do anything for “continuity” except the fact that he knows the players. Knapp will know just as much about their skills when he rolls the film from last season
January 31st, 2012 at 8:02 am
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:53 am
Sam,
Wasn’t the WC system one of the reasons Palmer wanted out of Cincinnati? I wonder how Palmer feels about this hire, and is he still excited about next season?
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See, this is one of the things they really didnt consider…this puts more pressure on the running game, which means they need to franchise Bush , or see if Reece offers a little more, because taiwan is more of a change of pace back.
That type of offense is predicated upon a back that can catch passes and create. It might not be so bad, in that a conservative offense would keep CP3’s interception total down, but we have to control the clock with defense and get turnovers – and Allen is going to do it with THIS BUNCH?
January 31st, 2012 at 8:03 am
New post up. Its a done deal.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:04 am
new post!
January 31st, 2012 at 8:10 am
224.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:51 am
I don’t think your OC determines your Oline. Our youngest, most valuable Olineman are big dudes, not really ZBS guys. I would say Satele and Carlisle are the only ZBS guys left. They will build from what they have, not start over.
You guys way over-react some times. Its rumored we are talking to Greg Knapp OMG ITS ANOTHER 4-12 STINKER OMG OMG REGGIE IS SO STUPID ALLEN IS AN IDIOT…. relax. It ain’t even February.
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BCZ,
Agree with your 2nd comment. A ton of semi pro’s are freaking out right now – sour grapes from the Kiffin/Cable era, I guess
I think your OC does determine your O-Line though. Maybe not the players, but definately the system & scheme. McKenzie & Allen will get us some players. Knapp & Wylie (???) will coach’em up. I don’t see Veldheer, Wiz or Carlisle going anywhere. Satele will probably return as well. The rest can go kick rocks imo
Knapp = ZBS everywhere he’s been since 2004. Doubtful that changes in 2012!
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RR – Save the positive in contol stuff brother. I have heard you freak out a time or two on this blog as well. As long as it is not Hue Jackson as Head Coach you could careless. : ) I hated the Kiffin error with a passion, Cable’s lat season with Hue as the offensive coordinator was not terrible, the games were “watchable”.
We have saw the ZB system on this team for years and it has not worked. WHat makes the o-line we have now tcandidates for the zone blocking system?
We have some strong rookies who were starting to look good on the o-line blowing some holes open. Now we are back to relarning a position.
Like it or not the problem with this franchise has been to much wasted change. Reults don’t lie and score don’t lie!
January 31st, 2012 at 8:23 am
Am I the only one who thinks the most important hire might be the strength and conditioning coach? I mean injuries seems to be the 2nd biggest problem beside our vanilla D.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:41 am
Pretty Rick Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:23 am
Am I the only one who thinks the most important hire might be the strength and conditioning coach? I mean injuries seems to be the 2nd biggest problem beside our vanilla D.
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problem with 4.4 and 4.3 guys is hammys and turf toe and numerous issues…the velocity they run with and those quick twitch strings which grant them that speed are troublesome..”Ferarri’s are temperamental cars”
January 31st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 12:27 am
I don’t see what the big deal is with Mark Davis’s hair. Frankly I think it’s childish to sit there and insult people based on their physical appearance. From this angle, his hair looks quite normal.
http://bit.ly/w5AKMC
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Thanks for that Sully. Remember appearances are never show fodder.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:52 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am
88.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 am
“…and he’ll still never have as much money as JR.”
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Just shows you what Debo values. It ain’t winning, that’s for sure.
Debo, you got a poster on your bedroom wall of JaMonstrous wearing that fur coat by the Lear jet?
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That pic was cool as Hell. The fur and shades he wore after we blew out Denver in 2008 were classic. We had the second coming of Joe Namath and completely fcked it up!
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“We” had the second coming of Joe Namath? Do you have a mouse in your pocket. We? In-f’ing-credible!!
To this day I find it inconceivable that Al David elected to give 39 cents, let alone 39 million to JaDonut. Especially after hearing the dumbass speak.
Joe Namath? That’s absolutely rich!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 10:56 pm
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Some Bay Area writers can’t understand fans frustration with the report of OC Greg Knapp returning to the Raiders. We’ll help them out…
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