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Fassel gone, Knapp invited back

By Steve Corkran
Monday, January 30th, 2012 at 11:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Dennis Allen today acknowledged that Al Saunders is under contract with the Raiders. From there, he talked more about what he wanted from an offensive coordinator and not what Saunders might offer.
Perhaps that had to do with the fact that Allen had offered the job to Houston Texans quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp, who held that title here in 2007 and ’08 under Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable.
Fox Sports’ Alex Marvez said late Monday night that Knapp has been offered the job. No word yet on whether Knapp said yes or if he intends to accept the post held by Saunders last season.
“The type of offensive coordinator I’m looking for is, really, at the end of the day, the same things I talked about offensively and what we want to do,” Allen said. “We want to be a up-tempo offense that can run the ball and be explosive in the passing game. So those are the things that we’re looking for, for guys that can get that accomplished.”
Knapp played a hand in developing rookie quarterback T.J. Yates this season, once starter Matt Schaub and backup Matt Leinart suffered season-ending injuries.
Knapp, 48, was with the Raiders in 2007, when their offense ranked 23rd in points per game and 25th in yards per game. He was stripped of his play-calling duties late in the 2008 season, when interim coach Tom Cable felt the need to take over.
Knapp bolted for the Seattle Seahawks in 2009 and spent the past two seasons with the Texans. Allen and Knapp worked together in Atlanta in 2004-05.
In other news, Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com reported that special teams coach John Fassel has signed with the St. Louis Rams. Fassel spent the past three seasons with the Raiders.
Previously, defensive line coach Mike Waufle and wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal signed with the Rams and New York Jets. respectively.

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  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    We finally had a good offense, and now we hire Knapp?!
    What has Knapp done in this league to be called successful?!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I let my daughter pick her own toys till she asks for a knife, Then I have to say no.
    Just say no Reggie!

  • hwnrdr

    Well, Knapp is Allens first hire…so…Knapp better be on watch teh whole time here!

  • hwnrdr

    202.Raider O Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:31 am
    I let my daughter pick her own toys till she asks for a knife, Then I have to say no.
    Just say no Reggie!

    Good One!

  • CJ Legend 34

    197.RaiderSam Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 am
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 6:32 am
    I think once the Raiders announce they are moving to LA in a new stadium they are going to get all types of coaches wanting to jump aboard.
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    For the millionth time. The commish said..he wanted the Niners and Raiders to share a stadium (the same way the Jets and Giants do) – the visiting teams would split the revenues among BOTH AFC and NFC teams in the same season , thus making more for the clubs. L.A., as usual, has too many chefs in the kitchen, which is why they failed before with Roski and Katzenberg having those two competing bids, and the Texans ended up getting approved.

    Until GROUND is broken, the thing is paid for, nobody is going anywhere. It could be the Los Angeles Rams AND the L.A. Chargers before its the L.A. Raiders.

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    LMAO!!! The last time Oakland and SF was at the same stadium people were stabbed, shot and beat down or sjust stabbed and beat down or just shot and beat down. You get my drift they were assulted. You know Al Jr. Wants a new stadium. He wants what ever his Dad did not want. He is making a name for himself now. Well except for allowing his head coach to put Knapp back on the team. Puke!!!!!!!

  • RaiderSam

    Raider O Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 am
    RR,

    Knapp is not a successful OC.
    Saunders > Knapp
    ================
    Why am I having these nightmares of Carson Palmer holding on to the ball and taking sacks, then taking off his chin strap in disgust.

    bio; is currently the offensive coordinator for the Oakland Raiders of the of the National Football League. This is his second stint in Oakland. Previously he was the quarterbacks coach for the Houston Texans, and before that the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. He was named to the position in January 2009 by new head coach Jim L. Mora. Knapp, whose forte is the West coast offense, was offensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons from 2003-2006 under former coach Jim L. Mora. Prior to joining the Falcons, Knapp spent nine years in various positions with the San Francisco 49ers, which include Offensive Coordinator from 2001–2003, Quarterbacks Coach from 1998–2000 and Offensive Quality Control from 1995-1997.”
    source; wikipedia

    Well, they did light it up with T.O. and Jeff Garcia back in 2002, before getting dismissed by the Giants in the playoffs – maybe Knapp gets his mojo back?

  • CJ Legend 34
  • http://none Marley Bob

    Definitely like this Dennis Allen guy, hopefully he knows what he’s doing.

    The Texans offensive system has been in place for years, I doubt Greg Knapp had much to with their success except for getting Yates to play decent ball, not an easy task by the way.

    But it’s hard to understand how Allen kept mentioning the Saints offense and offered the job to Knapp, not a lot of similarities there.

    If we are adjusting our blocking scheme back to primarily ZBS, we do have the athletic players to pull it off, Veldheer, Wiz, Satele and Carslile can all move.

  • uglyorc

    Adios Fassel. You SUCKED! Coverages and returns were abysmal.

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    Either you dont realize that he was our ST coach for three seasons or you have a very short memory. We lost some key players on ST this past year both to injuries and to waivers.

  • http://none Marley Bob

    And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.

  • RaiderSam

    Marley Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 am
    Definitely like this Dennis Allen guy, hopefully he knows what he’s doing.

    The Texans offensive system has been in place for years, I doubt Greg Knapp had much to with their success except for getting Yates to play decent ball, not an easy task by the way.

    But it’s hard to understand how Allen kept mentioning the Saints offense and offered the job to Knapp, not a lot of similarities there.

    If we are adjusting our blocking scheme back to primarily ZBS, we do have the athletic players to pull it off, Veldheer, Wiz, Satele and Carslile can all move.
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    “hopefully, he knows what he’s doing” – that is going to be an echo chamber all year. Poole, Silver and Kawakami will be ALL OVER this guy if they dont get off to a fast start….

  • CJ Legend 34

    Maybe, Maybe, Maybe, Maybe…..

    maybe we need to rename this team the Oakland or LA MAYBES next year.

  • Calirock83

    Winning is the one cure all …When we start tallying them up on the win column all will be good Nation!! New Days in Oakland, gone are the days when the Raiders lose games by shooting themselves in the foot. Teams are going to earn their stripes againsts the Raiders. Just Crush Em Baby!!

  • RaiderSam

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
    Maybe, Maybe, Maybe, Maybe…..

    maybe we need to rename this team the Oakland or LA MAYBES next year.
    ==============================
    8-8 back to back will do that to you – especially after two coaching changes after posting that record….

  • CJ Legend 34

    210.Marley Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
    And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.

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    And they should Marley this rehire of average coaching terms is getting ridiculous.

    I mean I get the whole hire who you are comfortable with but come on man. At least have the track record with thte team to go with it.

  • hwnrdr

    I hope the Oline becomes multiple like how Allen said the D will look…

  • RaiderSam

    Calirock83 Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Winning is the one cure all …When we start tallying them up on the win column all will be good Nation!! New Days in Oakland, gone are the days when the Raiders lose games by shooting themselves in the foot. Teams are going to earn their stripes againsts the Raiders. Just Crush Em Baby!!
    ================================
    Only problem with that is, how do you motivate overpaid players, who haven’t turned the corner and have struggled with the same problems dating back to 2009. Mac has to hit some home runs with some undrafted players and every draft pick to bench some of these higher priced guys.

    thats what infuriated me about the Sterling thing, the Pats have 18 undrafted players – they reward on merit – Ocho Cinco is on the bench in that system, they have hobbits like Woodhead, Edelman and Welker BALLING.

    He’s got to light a fire under some of these guys, put a gun to their heads, SOMETHING!

  • RaiderSam

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:40 am
    210.Marley Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
    And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.

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    And they should Marley this rehire of average coaching terms is getting ridiculous.

    I mean I get the whole hire who you are comfortable with but come on man. At least have the track record with thte team to go with it.
    ======================
    Precisely, and some of the players will be thinking the same thing. Its so difficult to win over guys and get them to ride with you…Is Palmer thinking “What did I get myself into?”

  • hwnrdr

    Funny, is after watching the presser yesterday…Allen reminds me of the guy “Psycho” from Stripes…”Don’t ever call me Francis!” LOL

  • CJ Legend 34

    Did anyone ever think about this.

    What would this team look like if we just kept Cable, kept Knapp and let them play through 4 years. With the players we have on this team now. Do you honestly think they could not have acheived a 8-8 season?

    Or how about Cable HC, Hue Jackson OC, and Knapp QB coach?

    Thank God we got a GM and I hope he does not fire coaches every year or two like Al did. Can you see how this hurt the franchise in the big picture?

  • Pretty Rick

    Let’s just hope Gregg (take a) Knapp absorbed Kubiaks playcalling tendencies and the players put forth an effort to execute them. I guess this means no more punt and fg fakes every game, and no more double reverses.

  • CJ Legend 34

    218.RaiderSam Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:43 am
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:40 am
    210.Marley Bob Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 am
    And Greg Knapp better get the offense going early on, he’s not a popular pick and the crowd will turn on him fast if we go back to a lame offense.

    —————————————————–
    And they should Marley this rehire of average coaching terms is getting ridiculous.

    I mean I get the whole hire who you are comfortable with but come on man. At least have the track record with thte team to go with it.
    ======================
    Precisely, and some of the players will be thinking the same thing. Its so difficult to win over guys and get them to ride with you…Is Palmer thinking “What did I get myself into?”
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    Palmer is thinking about retirement or Palmer is thinking West Coast Offense? Bombs away!!! 2-3 INTs a game book it! Will make a great throw then a What the %#*??? throw the next.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Hwnrdr,

    Sometime it’s better to smile/ laugh than to get angry on issues you can’t control.
    I learned that the hard way.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I don’t think your OC determines your Oline. Our youngest, most valuable Olineman are big dudes, not really ZBS guys. I would say Satele and Carlisle are the only ZBS guys left. They will build from what they have, not start over.

    You guys way over-react some times. Its rumored we are talking to Greg Knapp OMG ITS ANOTHER 4-12 STINKER OMG OMG REGGIE IS SO STUPID ALLEN IS AN IDIOT…. relax. It ain’t even February.

    ***

    BCZ,

    Agree with your 2nd comment. A ton of semi pro’s are freaking out right now – sour grapes from the Kiffin/Cable era, I guess

    I think your OC does determine your O-Line though. Maybe not the players, but definately the system & scheme. McKenzie & Allen will get us some players. Knapp & Wylie (???) will coach’em up. I don’t see Veldheer, Wiz or Carlisle going anywhere. Satele will probably return as well. The rest can go kick rocks imo

    Knapp = ZBS everywhere he’s been since 2004. Doubtful that changes in 2012!

  • DT42

    The problem with Knapp is not just his body of work. The problem is that with a new Offensive Coordinator is that he has to learn the strengths and weakness of his personnel. If we are lucky it will take a half a season. Offering Knapp the job is an indication that Coach Allen is in rebuilding mode, not reloading mode. It’s going to take at least 2-3 years to build an 8-8 team.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Sam,

    Wasn’t the WC system one of the reasons Palmer wanted out of Cincinnati? I wonder how Palmer feels about this hire, and is he still excited about next season?

  • CJ Legend 34

    221.Pretty Rick Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:46 am
    Let’s just hope Gregg (take a) Knapp absorbed Kubiaks playcalling tendencies and the players put forth an effort to execute them. I guess this means no more punt and fg fakes every game, and no more double reverses.

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    P. Rick Hue did way to many trick plays at times but you know what after dealing with the lame offense we had for the last 5 plus years. I enjoyed some of the trick plays. WRs with speed love reverses and a number of them did work. And we did a fake field goal and we did score! The GB call was a bad call but the way our D was being blew out it really did not matter. The funny thing is on all of the fakes the players were in position to make plays they just did not do it. The fake field goal near the ned of the season the back was wide open, defense was tricked and the ball was over thrown. But yeah, Hue could have done less trick plays but I don’t think it would have saved his job.

    Hue is a good O Coordinator, we will see him again on another team.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    RR,

    Damn right I’m freaking out. So should you!

  • RaiderRockstar

    I hear you RR but you know what? Before all of the injuries our offense was looking pretty good. Even after the injuries we were still putting enough points on the board to win the game. Our run game was on fire. I don’t recall our run game looking that good under Knapp. If I recall it was as lethargic as our passing attack. Lets be honest we did not get a strong run game until Hue Jackson arrived on the scene people, like it or not.

    ***

    CJL,

    We were EXCELLENT at running the football in 2007 with Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes & Echemandu! 6th in the NFL!

    10th in the NFL @ Rushing in 2008..

    Al Saunders doesn’t get any credit for our offense the past 2 years. Hue Jackson was the play caller. He punched his own ticket outta town, so no use crying over spilled milk. Saunders was basically the QB Coach last year. Keeping him doesn’t do anything for “continuity” except the fact that he knows the players. Knapp will know just as much about their skills when he rolls the film from last season

  • RaiderSam

    Raider O Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:53 am
    Sam,

    Wasn’t the WC system one of the reasons Palmer wanted out of Cincinnati? I wonder how Palmer feels about this hire, and is he still excited about next season?
    ================
    See, this is one of the things they really didnt consider…this puts more pressure on the running game, which means they need to franchise Bush , or see if Reece offers a little more, because taiwan is more of a change of pace back.

    That type of offense is predicated upon a back that can catch passes and create. It might not be so bad, in that a conservative offense would keep CP3′s interception total down, but we have to control the clock with defense and get turnovers – and Allen is going to do it with THIS BUNCH?

  • Just Win Baby

    New post up. Its a done deal.

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post!

  • CJ Legend 34

    224.RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 7:51 am
    I don’t think your OC determines your Oline. Our youngest, most valuable Olineman are big dudes, not really ZBS guys. I would say Satele and Carlisle are the only ZBS guys left. They will build from what they have, not start over.

    You guys way over-react some times. Its rumored we are talking to Greg Knapp OMG ITS ANOTHER 4-12 STINKER OMG OMG REGGIE IS SO STUPID ALLEN IS AN IDIOT…. relax. It ain’t even February.

    ***

    BCZ,

    Agree with your 2nd comment. A ton of semi pro’s are freaking out right now – sour grapes from the Kiffin/Cable era, I guess

    I think your OC does determine your O-Line though. Maybe not the players, but definately the system & scheme. McKenzie & Allen will get us some players. Knapp & Wylie (???) will coach’em up. I don’t see Veldheer, Wiz or Carlisle going anywhere. Satele will probably return as well. The rest can go kick rocks imo

    Knapp = ZBS everywhere he’s been since 2004. Doubtful that changes in 2012!

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    RR – Save the positive in contol stuff brother. I have heard you freak out a time or two on this blog as well. As long as it is not Hue Jackson as Head Coach you could careless. : ) I hated the Kiffin error with a passion, Cable’s lat season with Hue as the offensive coordinator was not terrible, the games were “watchable”.

    We have saw the ZB system on this team for years and it has not worked. WHat makes the o-line we have now tcandidates for the zone blocking system?

    We have some strong rookies who were starting to look good on the o-line blowing some holes open. Now we are back to relarning a position.

    Like it or not the problem with this franchise has been to much wasted change. Reults don’t lie and score don’t lie!

  • Pretty Rick

    Am I the only one who thinks the most important hire might be the strength and conditioning coach? I mean injuries seems to be the 2nd biggest problem beside our vanilla D.

  • RaiderSam

    Pretty Rick Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 8:23 am
    Am I the only one who thinks the most important hire might be the strength and conditioning coach? I mean injuries seems to be the 2nd biggest problem beside our vanilla D.
    =========
    problem with 4.4 and 4.3 guys is hammys and turf toe and numerous issues…the velocity they run with and those quick twitch strings which grant them that speed are troublesome..”Ferarri’s are temperamental cars”

  • Raidernationdave

    Sullivan44 Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 12:27 am

    I don’t see what the big deal is with Mark Davis’s hair. Frankly I think it’s childish to sit there and insult people based on their physical appearance. From this angle, his hair looks quite normal.

    http://bit.ly/w5AKMC

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    Thanks for that Sully. Remember appearances are never show fodder.

  • Raidernationdave

    RaiderDebo Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am

    88.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 am
    “…and he’ll still never have as much money as JR.”

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    Just shows you what Debo values. It ain’t winning, that’s for sure.

    Debo, you got a poster on your bedroom wall of JaMonstrous wearing that fur coat by the Lear jet?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    That pic was cool as Hell. The fur and shades he wore after we blew out Denver in 2008 were classic. We had the second coming of Joe Namath and completely fcked it up!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “We” had the second coming of Joe Namath? Do you have a mouse in your pocket. We? In-f’ing-credible!!

    To this day I find it inconceivable that Al David elected to give 39 cents, let alone 39 million to JaDonut. Especially after hearing the dumbass speak.

    Joe Namath? That’s absolutely rich!!!

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