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Fassel gone, Knapp invited back

By Steve Corkran
Monday, January 30th, 2012 at 11:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Dennis Allen today acknowledged that Al Saunders is under contract with the Raiders. From there, he talked more about what he wanted from an offensive coordinator and not what Saunders might offer.
Perhaps that had to do with the fact that Allen had offered the job to Houston Texans quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp, who held that title here in 2007 and ’08 under Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable.
Fox Sports’ Alex Marvez said late Monday night that Knapp has been offered the job. No word yet on whether Knapp said yes or if he intends to accept the post held by Saunders last season.
“The type of offensive coordinator I’m looking for is, really, at the end of the day, the same things I talked about offensively and what we want to do,” Allen said. “We want to be a up-tempo offense that can run the ball and be explosive in the passing game. So those are the things that we’re looking for, for guys that can get that accomplished.”
Knapp played a hand in developing rookie quarterback T.J. Yates this season, once starter Matt Schaub and backup Matt Leinart suffered season-ending injuries.
Knapp, 48, was with the Raiders in 2007, when their offense ranked 23rd in points per game and 25th in yards per game. He was stripped of his play-calling duties late in the 2008 season, when interim coach Tom Cable felt the need to take over.
Knapp bolted for the Seattle Seahawks in 2009 and spent the past two seasons with the Texans. Allen and Knapp worked together in Atlanta in 2004-05.
In other news, Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com reported that special teams coach John Fassel has signed with the St. Louis Rams. Fassel spent the past three seasons with the Raiders.
Previously, defensive line coach Mike Waufle and wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal signed with the Rams and New York Jets. respectively.

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  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    I pray that Knapp rejects the job offer. Dennis Allen can do so much better at OC (and DC). But this goes back to what I said last week. We took too long hiring Allen, that by the time he was official, most of the good position coaches and co-ordinators had all taken up jobs with other teams, and now teams like the raiders and buccaneers have to scramble to grab someone – as opposed to hiring someone they specifically wanted – just like reggie targeting and getting Allen.

  • Pretty Rick

    Rise n shine (yawning),,, DA considering Gregg (take a) Knapp as OC scares me a little but it could be worse I guess (Phil McCoy). But if that means going back zbs, that also means we may have to completely redo the O-line again and be forced to keep CC, (rrrh). If it happens I just hope the offense will mentally be on board having to learn another playbook,,,again. But then again who else is out there for OC? Now if DA brings back Chuck Bresnahan then we’ll be in major trouble, and my heart can’t take another year of that sh?t.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    I really hoped we would had kept Saunders, I would like to see what he could do on offense without Hue effing up the playcallng..

    Fassels gone is not good either!

  • Just Fire Baby

    The ZBS is where it’s at!!!!

    McKenzie comes from the Packers, who are a ZBS team, and there offense seems to be fine.

    I tried to tell you guys all year, that the notion that we went back to some “power” blocking offense last year was a joke.

    We were still doing a lot of ZBS stuff.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Whoever our OC is, I knew it wouldn’t be Saunders, I am confident they will score more points than Hue’s offense last year, without the turnovers, and of course the penalties.

  • Pretty Rick

    JFB,,,I hope you’re right,,now the question is do we want another year with CC, and is Gregg Knapp really the answer for us? I’m lil nervous about that.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Cooper Carlisle hasn’t missed a snap in two years.

    I hope they give him an extension!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Khalif Barnes was supposed to be some type of “power” blocker, and he was God Awful.

    Meanwhile, undersized athletic O-lineman like Veldheer and Carlisle were our best offensive lineman.

    Wiz 2.0 is a guy who may be better served in the ZBS as well, as he is not a huge drive-blocker, at least that was the reports on him coming out of college.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The Texans, with a 3rd string hack of a QB, went into Baltimore with Knapp and the ZBS, and pushed them around the field and ran for more yards than anybody has ever run on the Ravens in the playoffs, and in any game in years.

  • Raider-in-PA

    Good morning Nation!! I’ve been begging for some kind of indication on coordinator prospects, cant say I’m thrilled with what I learned this morning about Knapp…

    One poster did make a great comment about the level of talent (or lack thereof) that Knapp dealt with in his first stint with Oakland. In short, Japorka$$ Russell..

    This is a much improved O-line, RB and WR corps to work with… Just wished Saunders was kept around for continuity…

    Anyone think there is a chance Al S. sticks around as some sort of assistant/consultant to Knapp??

  • Just Fire Baby

    Anyone think there is a chance Al S. sticks around as some sort of assistant/consultant to Knapp??

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    Yes.

    Al Saunders turns 65 tomorrow. No matter where he goes, this should be his progression.

    Do we want an OC who is on Medicare?

  • RaiderDebo

    20.wasbanned Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
    30. Greg Knapp / Seahawks
    Injuries have to be taken into consideration given a hard-hit offensive line, but evaluators were not quick to give Knapp a pass for the offense’s shortcomings.

    SCOUT’S TAKE: “Knapp runs a ball-control offense to the hilt. You don’t see creativity to go downfield or open it up as far as big plays go. I think a lot of that is tied into the quarterback (Matt Hasselbeck), but historically that has always been his game. It probably hurt that offense this year because they did not have the personnel to have sustained drives. They needed to get the ball downfield more — and it forced the quarterback into a lot of bad situations.” … “They could not run at all. The quarterback quit on them. (Knapp) did a terrible job, and it is the reason why Mora was fired and should have been fired.”

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/11/ranking-the-offensive-coordinators

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    Notice #29 on this list. In 2009, JaMarcus’ supporting cast (OL, RBs, WRs, and offensive coaching staff) was the worst in the history of the NFL! And it’s not even close.

  • RaiderDebo

    I’ve always said that we never should have let Knapp go to Seattle in the first place. By the end of 2008, the offense was humming and he had JaMarcus playing very well. Even during the bad games, he and JR were joined at the hip after every offensive series. I think he did a hell of a job here. Trading he and John DeFillipo out for Buddy Whackit and Ted Tollner was a mistake that cost JR and Cable their jobs.

  • RaiderDebo

    29. Tom Cable / Raiders (head coach)
    JaMarcus Russell will handcuff any offense, and the inability to extract any consistent production from the QB position limited the offense, but evaluators questioned what Cable was able to do even without Russell in the lineup.
    SCOUT’S TAKE: “(Cable) has not been able to develop any pattern of consistency outside of knowing they are going to run the ball all the time. The reality is that their passing game has been very inept, to the point of futility, and it is not just the lack of productivity at the quarterback position. It is one of those offenses where if they are not playing well on defense, you know they are not going to generate enough points to beat you.”

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/11/ranking-the-offensive-coordinators
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    Blame JR all you want. I’ll go with the “coaches” on this one.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Only Cable found work immediately, and Jamarcus hasn’t.

    But I like Knapp, and think he will get D Moore 75+ catches next season.

    And Palmer will be a top 10 QB.

    The ZBS may prefer the more atheltic O-lineman, but these teams (like the Texans) want a brute of a FB, like we had with Oren O’neil during our full-on ZBS years.

    Not sure what a switch to a fully embraced ZBS means for Reece as the FB.

  • RaiderReggie

    I don’t care who we have as offensive coordinator, I just want to WIN!!

  • hwnrdr

    Not sure I would want Knapp back…but I guess Allen is familiar with him…oh well…back to mediocrity!

  • RaiderReggie

    I don’t care if we win games 6 to 3 or 10 to 7, I just want to win.

  • RaiderReggie

    If the Raiders go 12-4 or 11-5, nobody will remember how we won those games.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I haven’t been this excited for a Raiders season in awhile.

    Love the direction we are going with things.

    Next step is the draft, and the trading of a player or two (will happen) and the restructuring and/or cutting of some overpaid underperformers.

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 5:44 am
    Only Cable found work immediately, and Jamarcus hasn’t.

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    Cable was demoted, and rightly so. JR hasn’t found work, yet.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Yet, lol.

    He will NEVER find work in the NFL without going to a lower-tier league first.

    Jamarcus’ “demotion” was one of the greatest “demotions” in the history of sports.

  • hwnrdr

    Wait…Knapp was ranked behind Cable? Is that thing for real???

  • RaiderDebo

    72.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 5:55 am
    Yet, lol.

    He will NEVER find work in the NFL without going to a lower-tier league first.

    Jamarcus’ “demotion” was one of the greatest “demotions” in the history of sports.

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    Cable’s was the greatest.

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    AS WE ALL KNOW,ON ANY COACH AND/OR PLAYER,1/2 THE PEOPLE HERE WILL LIKE THEM,1/2 WONT.THE OTHER 1/2 DONT COUNT..GOOD MORNING NATION..

  • Just Fire Baby

    Cable’s was the greatest.

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    Don’t be stupid. He is still recieving an NFL pay-check and having someone else contribute to his pension. Hell, Hue Jackson is falling down the ranks farther than Cable.

  • bcz24

    2 full seasons have passed since JRuss was cut. At this point it should be obvious that he isn’t coming back. I mean look at the teams that had QB injuries this year, Russell wasn’t brought in by ANY of them.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com reported that special teams coach John Fassel has signed with the St. Louis Rams. Fassel spent the past three seasons with the Raiders

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    Jeff Fisher stole “Bones” as well?

  • hwnrdr

    So ok…if Knapp takes this job…who you guys think the DC will be? Friggen Manusky?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Jamarcus Russell said HIMSELF in his SI article, he didn’t want to come back last year.

    Yet Debo was in here saying this team and that team will give him a look, lol.

  • Just Fire Baby

    So much for all that Packers West talk huh?

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Happy Birthday to BSJ!

    And to Greg Skrepenak! A great Raider and Wolverine.

    Also of note: today may be the greatest single birthday in the history of baseball: Jackie Robinson, Ernie Banks and Nolan Ryan.

    Let’s play two!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Greg Knapp for OC?

    he’s a bit too conservative for me. I understand Dennis Allen expressing interest, but to offer him the job already? who was he competing against?

    to be fair … GK was saddled with JaMarcus Russell last time around

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Adios Fassel. You SUCKED! Coverages and returns were abysmal.

  • RaiderDebo

    76.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 6:01 am
    Cable’s was the greatest.

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    Don’t be stupid. He is still recieving an NFL pay-check and having someone else contribute to his pension. Hell, Hue Jackson is falling down the ranks farther than Cable.

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    He can collect checks and contribute to his pension all he wants and he’ll still never have as much money as JR. As for Hue vs Cable, apples and oranges. Offensive mind vs offensive monkey. Feel pretty safe that the “scouts” see it my way. Hue will be just fine.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Jamarcus Russell said HIMSELF in his SI article, he didn’t want to come back last year.

    Yet Debo was in here saying this team and that team will give him a look

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    JFB,

    I think Debo said there will be a “bidding war” for Russell’s services this offseason, didn’t he?

  • RaiderReggie

    Hue Jackson fired himself. I mentioned on this blog early last season that Hue needed to put that play calling card down and let Al Sanders call the plays. I like what Dennis Allen said about letting his coordinators do their jobs. Allen said he is going to manage the game and that’s what head coaches are suppose to do. Most successful head coaches don’t call plays.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    “…and he’ll still never have as much money as JR.”

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    Just shows you what Debo values. It ain’t winning, that’s for sure.

    Debo, you got a poster on your bedroom wall of JaMonstrous wearing that fur coat by the Lear jet?

  • bcz24

    Greg Knapp for OC?

    he’s a bit too conservative for me. I understand Dennis Allen expressing interest, but to offer him the job already? who was he competing against?

    to be fair … GK was saddled with JaMarcus Russell last time around
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    His offense wasn’t very conservative in Houston. It WAS here, but they had to limit the playbook to about 30 plays for Russell. I think it will be a LOT different with the weaponry we have now.

  • RaiderRockstar

    with Greg Knapp, I assume we’re switching back to the ZBS and Cooper Carlisle will be retained.

  • RaiderDebo

    80.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 am
    Jamarcus Russell said HIMSELF in his SI article, he didn’t want to come back last year.

    Yet Debo was in here saying this team and that team will give him a look, lol.

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    Already got looks before Seal Team Six raided his house for that bottle of Robitussin. Can’t blame the guy for taking a deep breath after the sht storm he was in here. But he possesses a golden arm. He will get another shot.

    When did I say “this

  • RaiderDebo

    88.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 am
    “…and he’ll still never have as much money as JR.”

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    Just shows you what Debo values. It ain’t winning, that’s for sure.

    Debo, you got a poster on your bedroom wall of JaMonstrous wearing that fur coat by the Lear jet?
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    That pic was cool as Hell. The fur and shades he wore after we blew out Denver in 2008 were classic. We had the second coming of Joe Namath and completely fcked it up!

  • hwnrdr

    You got a point Bcz…how was his offensive ranks with Garcia and Owens?

  • CJ Legend 34

    Greg Knapp Zone Blocming scheme once again LMBO!!!!!

    That is what I call change! Get back Knapp!!!!

    I see 7 wins MAX this year. If you all think this is an upgrade from Saunders or even Hue Jackson, good luck.

    This team will be a rebuilding joke once again!

  • Just Fire Baby

    I gotta roll actually, and do it another day.

    Raider On

  • bcz24

    If he isn’t on a team when training camp opens this year, he never will be. Even you won’t be able to deny that after 3 years he is NEVER coming back.

  • CJ Legend 34

    Why Knapp?????

    To develop Pryor?

    I just don’t get it.

    back to zone blocking with DMAC and Bush? Well at least they know how to read zone blocks. I think I am going to be sick.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    LMAO. When JaWalrus took a “deep breath”?

    I thought he had ass apnea?

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    RaiderDebo Says:
    January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 am

    That pic was cool as Hell. The fur and shades he wore after we blew out Denver in 2008 were classic. We had the second coming of Joe Namath and completely fcked it up!

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    You are a fool. JaMammoth was only there to suck start the plane engines with one of his “deep breaths”.

    And Joe Namath backed it up. Russell just ate, drank and sucked.

  • bcz24

    I don’t think your OC determines your Oline. Our youngest, most valuable Olineman are big dudes, not really ZBS guys. I would say Satele and Carlisle are the only ZBS guys left. They will build from what they have, not start over.

    You guys way over-react some times. Its rumored we are talking to Greg Knapp OMG ITS ANOTHER 4-12 STINKER OMG OMG REGGIE IS SO STUPID ALLEN IS AN IDIOT…. relax. It ain’t even February.