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Raiders live chat today at 2:30 p.m. to discuss Dennis Allen

By Jon Becker
Monday, January 30th, 2012 at 8:20 am in Oakland Raiders.

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  • lefty12

    ET-actually Reggie said we would evaluate all free agents and go after ones that could help the team.He didn’t endorse Campbell or even insinuate we would try and keep him.

  • http://raiders.com Albert

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    You people need to stop acting like a bunch of Media led SHEEP!

    Screw the media what have they ever done for you to give them so much credibility.
    ——–
    You are funny. Are you John Herrera’s son?

  • RaiderRockstar

    OC & DC are important hires.

    highly doubtful guys like Saunders & Bresnahan will be retained … these guys will be hand picked by Dennis Allen and they’ll probably be tough, disciplined dudes like him

    no excuses, no nonsense. I wonder how many guys from the previous staff were “players coaches” ???

    Tom Coughlin is one tough SOB. His players hate him, but they respect him and do what he says. I can see Allen being that way.

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Wheres the presser video?

  • HairyBush

    Comments from press confrence:

    -Lane Kiffin loved the word “explosive”, As does the youthful Allen.

    -Reggie responding to several questions with the response “It was good”-He was showing off his endless vocab apperently.

    -Cliches were a plenty per ususal upon a new hiring

    -If accountability actually happens with the new regime It gives me hope.

    -There will be no in between with our next few seasons.
    Either we are really good and players are on board or there is a mutiny and Allen loses the locker room and we are the Cleveland Browns. (write that down)

    -Allen is sponsored by Gatorade

    -go Raiders

  • RaiderRockstar

    CODE CONDO, SUCKAS!

    -Dennis Allen

    that was the best part of the presser…

  • edward teach

    497.8RaiderReign8 Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Edward Teach Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    Interesting that Allen wants to go up-tempo on offense, and that there was mention of making an attempt to keep Jason Campbell.

    I would have thought that going up-tempo and keeping Campbell around would have been mutually exclusive. I always thought while watching him that Campbell was a bit slower to read and react than he should have been, and that he didn’t audibilize well.

    At least if Allen brings in a new coordinator Campbell will know THAT part. He’s had about a hundred of ‘em.
    ____________________

    Hue call to a lot of unnecessary timeouts because he didn’t get the plays in on time. I don’t blame Campbell or Palmer for this.

    ********************************************************

    Disagree. If there were issues getting plays in to the QB on time we would have seen it with both guys. Palmer audibled all the time and we didn’t call a whole lot of pre-snap timeouts with him under center. With Campbell it happened a lot. Same coach, same coordinator.

  • JB

    ddwight Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 6:08 am

    I dont think that Mckenzie & Allen, are going to just stand by and allow Palmer to throw the amount of picks that he threw and still be our starter (no matter how much he cost), these 2-guys appear to be no nonsense, they will go a different route instead of settling for a QB who skills and decision making is on the decline. Hue forced himself to have to rely on Palmer, and probably would have continued the trend next season no matter how Palmer would perform…I dont get the sense of that here with this new staff coming in, they will play the players that will give them a better chance to win without making the mistakes that have cost us. If Palmer is QB-ing he will have to cut way down on his Int’s, because these new guys GM and Coach will not settle for it!
    *******************

    You seem to be forgetting that thee are 3 parts to an INT. They include the QB, the WR and the defender. Any one of these three may be the reason for the INT although all the stats will post against the QB. There’s other considerations that also contribute to INT’s. They include the size of the open window at the point of reception, the timing aspect between the WR & QB, the crispness of the route and any undetected interference induced by the defender. So as we can see, an INT could be a very complex interaction of multiple parts and rationale.

    I’m really tired of people jumping on CP’s ball sack about INT’s. He actually one of the most accurate passers in the NFL. He makes throws that he majority of QB’s, including JCampbell whom I like, wouldn’t even consider. This last year, the main problems were for the mostpart WR driven. That is to say the timing was bad, the WR wasn’t where they were supposed to be, they ran bad routes, they didn’t fight for the ball or they just plain droped or tipped the ball resulting in an INT. Were there some INT;s that were just bad throws? Yes the were a couple but those were when CP was injected into the game (KC game)with virtually no practice at re there some just great defensive plays? Yeah, there were a couple but why are those held against the QB? The defender just outplayed he WR and got to the point of reception first or took the ball away. Those should be on the WR and not the QB.

    I think with a full camp under their belt, more practice time, more maturing of the WR’s, etc., we are going to see a much stronger passing game. Will there be INT’s? Yes, but that’s the price of greatness. If you don’t go for the great pass, it won’t happen. No guts, no glory. CP will prove, IMO , to be one of the all time great Raider QB’s in Raider history. And yes, HE will take us to the SB & win it within the next 3 years.

  • Silverandblack666

    “You are funny. Are you John Herrera’s son?”

    Are you Kawakami’s son?

    How much dumber can you get there Albert?

  • edward teach

    501.lefty12 Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    ET-actually Reggie said we would evaluate all free agents and go after ones that could help the team.He didn’t endorse Campbell or even insinuate we would try and keep him.

    ********************************************************

    I don’t know that he endorsed him Lefty, but he did interrupt a followup question to interject that Campbell was certainly in the mix to return.

  • RaiderRockstar

    There will be no in between with our next few seasons.
    Either we are really good and players are on board or there is a mutiny and Allen loses the locker room and we are the Cleveland Browns. (write that down)

    ***

    HB,

    all scholarships have term’d. If guys don’t ask “how high?” when Allen tells them to jump, they might as well catch the next train out of town

    Reggie seems like he cares more about respect & discipline than he does about saving a few extra bucks. Doubtful he’d balk if Allen told him he didn’t some overpaid slacker around either that contaminates the locker room

  • lefty12

    Both Reggie and DA made it plain that Palmer is the QB.Hopefully that can be put to bed once and for all.

  • RaiderRockstar

    why wouldn’t Jason Campbell return?

    if he gets a shot to compete for a starting job elsewhere.

    Otherwise, I expect him back at a reasonable rate

  • HairyBush

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    There will be no in between with our next few seasons.
    Either we are really good and players are on board or there is a mutiny and Allen loses the locker room and we are the Cleveland Browns. (write that down)

    ***

    HB,

    all scholarships have term’d. If guys don’t ask “how high?” when Allen tells them to jump, they might as well catch the next train out of town

    Reggie seems like he cares more about respect & discipline than he does about saving a few extra bucks. Doubtful he’d balk if Allen told him he didn’t some overpaid slacker around either that contaminates the locker room
    ——————-
    I’m getting that impression, There may be quite the shake up in Oaktown. I figure there will be a minimum of 6 new starters on the 12′ squad.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Code Condo my ass, liar!

  • lefty12

    As DA said it takes more than talent to win in the NFL.If a talented guy isn’t doing his job,he will be replaced.That equals accountability and it is something this team has lacked for far too long.

  • Silverandblack666

    Nice post JB #508

    Very nice

  • jesusraiderjim

    . CP will prove, IMO , to be one of the all time great Raider QB’s in Raider history. And yes, HE will take us to the SB & win it within the next 3 years.———————
    With ya! We are gonna be exciting to watch again. And we are gonna win!

  • RaiderRockstar

    As DA said it takes more than talent to win in the NFL.If a talented guy isn’t doing his job,he will be replaced.That equals accountability and it is something this team has lacked for far too long.

    ***

    Lefty,

    accountability & consistency!

  • hwnrdr

    What’s the over/under on when a post of the transcript will be on here?

  • PurpleDrank81

    CONDO EQUALS FUTURE MICHIGAN HEADCOACH

  • lefty12

    No way Campbell resigns with the Raiders knowing he has no chance of starting.

  • edward teach

    Lefty,

    I agree with you. I wanted it put to bed the minute Palmer arrived in Oakland. It was pretty clear at that time (or seemed to be, anyway) that Jason Campbell had played his last down as a Raider.

    I just thought it was a bit unusual that McKenzie would have interrupted a reporter’s question to specifically say that efforts were going to be made to bring Campbell back. Maybe it’s just window dressing, but I thought it interesting that he would say something like that when the PC was moving forward. He could have just let it go, and he didn’t.

  • hwnrdr

    522.lefty12 Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    No way Campbell resigns with the Raiders knowing he has no chance of starting.

    You never know…it could be that he was hurt when Hue Jack handled that situation and basically was saying F you to the man! But I will have to lean on him NOT returning either!

  • RaiderRockstar

    CP will prove, IMO , to be one of the all time great Raider QB’s in Raider history. And yes, HE will take us to the SB & win it within the next 3 years

    ***

    Palmer & Pryor = Favre & Rodgers

  • hwnrdr

    The new “Discount Double Check”?

  • RaiderRockstar

    What’s the over/under on when a post of the transcript will be on here?

    ***

    Steve is typing as fast as he can, man!

    30 min = early
    90 min = likely

  • jesusraiderjim

    525

    That is logic I could buy into. I am totally down with CP. I have been a fan for 40+ yrs and I haven’t been this excited since my first piece lol. We are again going to have a “Commitment To Excellence” Book It!

  • http://www.cannacenters.com R8rArt

    For all the great things Al did, one he was lacking was holding players accountable. You let players do whatever they want, including getting drunk before games, and say it’s ok, as long as you win, pretty much backfired on Al, unfortunately.

  • HairyBush

    Palmer & Pryor = Favre & Rodgers
    ————————–
    Palmer & Pryor= Roethlisberger & Kordel Stewart

  • jesusraiderjim

    That sh.t stopped being cool with Snake!

  • lefty12

    ET-I didn’t get the impression Reggie was saying efforts were going to be made to bring him back.To me it seemed he was saying all FAs would be evaluated and the team would put the best 80 players together it could.The question was asked of the coach and it looked like Reggie was watching his back.It goes back to hearing the same words but hearing different things.

  • hwnrdr

    529.R8rArt Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    For all the great things Al did, one he was lacking was holding players accountable. You let players do whatever they want, including getting drunk before games, and say it’s ok, as long as you win, pretty much backfired on Al, unfortunately.

    Agreed! But those days with Stabler being still drunk and playing were fun to watch! LOL

  • RaiderRockstar

    No way Campbell resigns with the Raiders knowing he has no chance of starting.

    ***

    how many teams need a starting QB that wont take one in RD1 of the NFL draft? or trade for one? or acquire one in free agency?

    Campbell’s chances of starting next season depend on another guy getting injured or filling in until a rookie 1st rounder is READY

    how much is he worth in a scenario like that? Is it worth uprooting the family from Oakland if he has an offer on the table for reasonable #2 QB pay?

  • jesusraiderjim

    Agreed! But those days with Stabler being still drunk and playing were fun to watch! LOL——————————
    Always felt like we were never out of the game back in those days. Wish we still had a Big Ben to get all uo in someones grill.lol. Them boys formed our attitude and we certainly need to get it going again! IMO

  • RaiderLen

    Edward Teach Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    Lefty,

    I agree with you. I wanted it put to bed the minute Palmer arrived in Oakland. It was pretty clear at that time (or seemed to be, anyway) that Jason Campbell had played his last down as a Raider.

    I just thought it was a bit unusual that McKenzie would have interrupted a reporter’s question to specifically say that efforts were going to be made to bring Campbell back. Maybe it’s just window dressing, but I thought it interesting that he would say something like that when the PC was moving forward. He could have just let it go, and he didn’t.
    —————————-
    Regarding Campbell,

    I didn’t hear it the same way.

    I might have missed the context.

    I got that Campbell would be a consideration just like all other FA’s.

  • edward teach

    Could be, Lefty. We all hear and interpret things differently.

    It’ll be interesting to see the transcript.

  • HairyBush

    how much is he worth in a scenario like that? Is it worth uprooting the family from Oakland if he has an offer on the table for reasonable #2 QB pay?
    —————-
    It would be nice if he stayed, Always nice to have a solid backup.-Although I don’t see him sticking around.

    I think the only way he stays is if he truly buried the hatchet with the way things went down after his injury last year. With a new regime it’s possible, Still not likely.

  • lefty12

    If Campbell knows he has no chance to start because an established QB already has the job,or has the chance to go to a team that has a rookie,I’d bet he went where the rookie was-or somewhere like Miami where he thinks he might get a chance to become the starter.

  • jesusraiderjim

    Live chat is late. Stating the obvious!

  • ottocrat

    New drinking game. Take a shot everytime Reggie says the word “Guys”

  • RaiderRockstar

    Palmer & Pryor= Roethlisberger & Kordel Stewart

    ***

    HB,

    they were never on the same team at the same time.

    KS left the Steelers for Chicago in 2003. BR was drafted in 2004

    Meanwhile- Rodgers sat behind Favre for 3 full seasons. I can see that being the case with Palmer & Pryor. These guys were buddies last year and Pryor pretty much clung to him like a flea on a dog’s back. even weight lifting partners. I like it

  • JB

    lefty12 Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    No way Campbell resigns with the Raiders knowing he has no chance of starting.
    ***********************

    The magic word there being starting. He’s at an age now where it might count against him as a starter. Those teams needing a franchise QB most likely won’t want to invest time & effort for a guy that can’t be “their guy” for multiple years. I don’t see JC as ever becoming elite. He’ll be good but not elite. It’s going to be very tough competing against younger equal talent. Teams will go for the younger guy every time. Jason would fit in here at Oakland as the BU QB very well. I also believe the Reggie would pay him very well for what he has to offer. Actually, Oakland is more of a home to Jason than anywhere else. this is where he got along well, was a leader (Still is if he wants), has a history of success and is for the most part respected by the fan base. Can’t say he gets that combination of goodies anywhere else, past, present or future. He’d be well advised to take the Oakland BU QB role. He’d be paid very well, would have reasonable longevity, could still be part of the leadership, would be part of a winning organization, would get a SB ring and possibly play in that SB. He would be very well respected within the community. He could look back 10 years from now, be $30M+ richer, not all banged up and have a good second half of his life. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that picture. He’d be smart to think this proposition over before he jumps.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Live chat is late. Stating the obvious!

    ==========================================

    No, it’s scheduled for 2:30 PM PST, which is 50 minutes from now. Be patient.

  • HairyBush

    ottocrat Says:
    January 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    New drinking game. Take a shot everytime Reggie says the word “Guys”
    ————–
    It will replace “Obviously”

  • jesusraiderjim

    543 Great Post. Can’t argue with none of it. Having a reliable backup is key to our future. QB’s are droppin like flies lately.

  • RaiderRockstar

    (Live Chat) scheduled for 2:30 PM PST, which is 50 minutes from now. Be patient.

    ***

    Corkran will have a new post up by then. Book it!

  • da trinity

    OC will be will be that guy from NO, carmichael I believe his name is.
    Print that!!!!!!

  • jesusraiderjim

    No, it’s scheduled for 2:30 PM PST, which is 50 minutes from now. Be patient————————–

    My Bad I am in Utah. I am just geeked.

  • RaiderRockstar

    OC will be will be that guy from NO, carmichael I believe his name is.

    ***

    that would be a lateral move. is his contract up?

    If not, the Raiders will have to ask the Saints for permission and they’ll likely be denied