Skipper coming back, Manusky interviewed
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, January 31st, 2012 at 4:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Fox Sports is reporting that new Raiders coach Dennis Allen has decided to retain running backs coach Kelly Skipper and that he interviewed Greg Manusky for the defensive coordinator position held by Chuck Bresnahan last season.
Skipper has been with the Raiders the past five seasons. He coached tight ends in 2007-08, running backs the past three seasons.
Manusky, 44, has spent 11 seasons coaching in the NFL. He was the San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator last season, until he was dismissed by head coach Norv Turner at season’s end.
Before that, Manusky was the defensive coordinator for the 49ers from 2007-10 and coached linebackers for the Chargers (2002-06) and Washington Redskins (2001).
In summary, Greg Knapp has replaced Al Saunders as the offensive coordinator, Skipper is back as the running backs coach, defensive line coach Mike Waufle and special teams coach John Fassel signed with the St. Louis Rams and wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal went to the New York Jets.
Allen and the Raiders have not confirmed any coaching moves yet.
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January 31st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
dos?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
uno?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
lol
January 31st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Next move is to retain Wylie and Classic Wiz.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Next move is to retain Wylie and Classic Wiz.
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Hope so.
Quality.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Has Dennis Allen asked Art Shell for the address of the Bed and Breakfast yet. These hires stink. Thought a lot of Allen but these coaches?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Manusky sounds like a dog fart. Don’t hire a dog fart for D coord!
January 31st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
We are bringing back the B&B coaching attitude!
January 31st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Why do so many of you want to retain staff from a team that hasn’t had a winning season in 10 years, and has only one every down player in the pro bowl?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
BDAtlanta Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
We are bringing back the B&B coaching attitude!
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So we are bringing in guys that have been out of the loop for 5 or more years?
BS.
Knapp is not sexy, I’m underwhelmed, but let’s see what happens.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
4.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Next move is to retain Wylie and Classic Wiz.
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Hope so….but I’m not expecting it.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Wow I just figured it out. Allen hired Knapp so he could blame our 3-13 record on him while building our Defense, avoiding giving Cincinnati another 1st round pick, and securing a high 1st for us in 1013. Then he has good reason to fire Knapp and hire a real OC like Norv Turner.
The man is a genius.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
coaches are only as good as their talent.
very few…let me re-phrase that, VERY FEW coaches are like parcells in that they can eek out 10 wins with sub-par talent.
we have always had the talent. now, we dont have al davis meddling.
lets give allen a chance. because i tell you one thing for sure, if we dont support this team, they definitely wont succeed. so lets at least hedge our bets and start thinking positive.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Manuski. Ugh
I would rather Donatell or Johnson ahead of him.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Manusky has to be better than Bresnehan. Allen will probably have a heavy hand in the defense. Skipper’s seems to have done a good job with RB’s. Bush seems to understand tip toeing through the tulips doesn’t cut it, and Mcfaddens an beast.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Wow I just figured it out. Allen hired Knapp so he could blame our 3-13 record on him while building our Defense, avoiding giving Cincinnati another 1st round pick, and securing a high 1st for us in 1013. Then he has good reason to fire Knapp and hire a real OC like Norv Turner.
The man is a genius.
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LOL
You be crazy.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Why do so many of you want to retain staff from a team that hasn’t had a winning season in 10 years, and has only one every down player in the pro bowl?
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Because letting go is hard…
January 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
My prediction is the Raiders will have a top 15 pick in the 2013 draft.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Manuski. Ugh
I would rather Donatell or Johnson ahead of him.
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Me too.
Manusky should have done more with the talent he had in SF.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Why do so many of you want to retain staff from a team that hasn’t had a winning season in 10 years, and has only one every down player in the pro bowl?
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because we haven’t had many 8-8 seasons either. That and our o-line was horrid until Wylie showed up. Wiz is a Legacy guy and his nephew is doing well with him here.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Except we don’t.
The owner is a rookie at the job.
So is the GM
And so is the head coach.
going to be a lot of trial by error.
Kirk Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:47 am
This is a great day for Raider Nation.
We finally have smart experienced football people running the organization.
We have been in the wilderness for a long time…
January 31st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
My prediction is the Raiders will have a top 15 pick in the 2013 draft.
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Yes that is the plan. Maybe top 10 again.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:23 pm
JB Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
CARSON IS A STOP GAP I DOUBT HE SURVIVES INTO 2013, NOT ONLY BECAUSE HE DOESNT FIT THE WCO, BUT HE NEEDS TO LEARN A NEW PLAYBOOK (WHICH WE SAW IS A STRUGGLE FOR HIM) AND HE WILL CONTINUE THROWING PICKS.
Sorry guys, enjoy it while you can his time is running out
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Sour grapes from a BroMance with JCampbell that didn’t fly. Get over it Mystic. Your saga has already gotten old and many of us are tired of it. If you don’t like CP, that’s your right. But please don’t come in here and try to blow smoke up our a$$ about how bad CP is. I too happened to like Soup. I think he’s a good person and decent QB. But, he’s not CP level of ability nor will he ever be. Peole like you come in here trying to beat down CP for INT’s. There are 3 people involved in and possibly responsible for an INT. In CP’s case here, the vast majority on INT’s while at Oak were not his responsibility. CP will make passes that Soup would not even try. Therein lies the difference.
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Nope jb it you that cant bear the thought of your golden hair hero being reduced to the level of seat warmer and that is exactly what has happened.
You may try to make it about something else fro the sake of self comfort, but the facts remain.
palmer was brought in as a band aid, and he hasnt been able to elevate himself from that role.
Worship him if you must, but he will have to prove on the field that he can cut the mustard, and the deck is firmly stacked against him.
I dont know why this is such a sore spot for some raider fans, but face it, to this point the palmer move has been a debacle and failure of mammoth proportions.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Kawakami:
“Pinning your emotions to AL SAUNDERS in some bizarre transference of Al/continuity/rage-love is not how you win in the NFL, it just isn’t.”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Does anyone have anything informative to say about Knapp? Like where he coached last year? What are his typical schemes? How do his offenses perform?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Kawakami:
“It’s hilarious to me that suddenly I’m the one defending the team’s decisions and Raiders fans are all over me about it, but I guess that’s what happens when a formerly-weird team tries to do things the normal way, and the frantic fans haven’t quite caught up yet–or just want the weird. Or they demand the weird.”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Kawakami:
“Pinning your emotions to AL SAUNDERS in some bizarre transference of Al/continuity/rage-love is not how you win in the NFL, it just isn’t.”
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That quote totally rocks.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
No playoffs in 10 years. No winning season in 10 years. Our pro bowlers? A kicker, a punter, a long snapper, and one, read, one every down defensive player. And fans want to retain the assistant coaches? Do these fans want to win, or do they have some vested interest in certain people staying employed with the team? Weird.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Kawakami:
“But this is where the Raiders fan meltdown comes from: They are not used to normal, haven’t experienced it… ever… and have been encouraged to have their rage ready to go, at the first sign of non-Raider-like activity.”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Time to change the needle again Mystic. This one’s about down to the nub. Even diamond is no match for your blind hatred of Palmer.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
22.Mum-O-killowe Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
My prediction is the Raiders will have a top 15 pick in the 2013 draft.
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Yes that is the plan. Maybe top 10 again.
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I think Raider Nation should keep their expectations for next season low, just so they won’t be shocked by the possible struggles next season.
They probably go 6-10 next year of 7-9. Anything better will be a nice surprise.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Kawakami must read this blog.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:28 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Except we don’t.
The owner is a rookie at the job.
So is the GM
And so is the head coach.
going to be a lot of trial by error.
Kirk Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:47 am
This is a great day for Raider Nation.
We finally have smart experienced football people running the organization.
We have been in the wilderness for a long time…
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The new owner made His call.
He’ll actually have the foresight to exercise patience if it’s required. He has said so.
The GM is a Rookie by definition only.
18 years in a winning organization having worked his way from bottom to top, means He just now has an opportunity to do what He already knows.
The Head coach is the real wild card. But from all accounts he’s bright, driven, and ready.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Interesting that whenever Kawakami writes a critical piece, some fans go right to the Herrera incident. As if Herrera should only write sunshine blowing suck up articles now since an employee of the team became confrontational with him.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
For years we fans complained about how Al ran the team without a GM and with Head Coaches who had no authority. Now we finally have both and amazing some of you are already complaining before one down has been played. None of us know half as much about football as the new GM or Head Coach knows, not even close. Knapp has been a successful coach except for when he was stuck with JaMarcus, which really name me one coach who could have produce with him? The 49ers D under Manusky every year was far better than anything we have seen in Oakland for awhile. I’m tired of us acting like we were so close last year. The only reason why we even had a chance at the playoffs was because our division was terrible. We beat only 1 winning team all year and that was the Al game versus Houston. This team wasn’t that good, so why cry for keeping Saunders, Hue or any other coach? Let’s move forward in a new way, allowing the new guys to do their thing and then judge based on wins and loses.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Knapp is back with the Raiders but a REAL coach like Gruden will never be back??
How ironically weird! haha
January 31st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
lol. Exactly, Tim.
“So… you can love Al Saunders as the Raiders offensive coordinator all you like, and apparently many, many, many Raiders fans do.
They love him with a depth and devotion that seems incredibly odd to me (how many Super Bowls did he win with the Raiders again? 10? 14?), but again, that is the Raiders-fan option.”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Knapp is back with the Raiders but a REAL coach like Gruden will never be back??
How ironically weird! haha
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Gruden’s not a coach anymore. Might as well ask for Madden to come back, coaching Frank Gifford and Pat Sumerall.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Looks like Tim isn’t all that scared of Herrera after all. Cause he brought it today.
“Didn’t the Raiders prove that for the last 10 years? Is that what Raiders fans want–continuity for the sake of what you consider AD’s legacy, and 7-9 or 8-8 every year?”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Why do so many of you want to retain staff from a team that hasn’t had a winning season in 10 years, and has only one every down player in the pro bowl?
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Yeah, that nice and all, but that still doesn’t explain Allen talking about the offense being up tempo and explosive and then hiring Greg Knapp as the play caller?
Is something missing here? haha
January 31st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
From Tim to you, John. Eat the words.
“But this is where the Raiders fan meltdown comes from: They are not used to normal, haven’t experienced it… ever… and have been encouraged to have their rage ready to go, at the first sign of non-Raider-like activity.”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Yeah, that nice and all, but that still doesn’t explain Allen talking about the offense being up tempo and explosive and then hiring Greg Knapp as the play caller?
Is something missing here? haha
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Maybe.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
BTW, Tim’s wrong about one thing. Those of us in our late 30s or older remember when the Raiders were normal, at least from a football standpoint. We had a defacto GM in Ron Wolf and had a team full of real football players. But Tim’s right in the sense that most fans under 35 have no freaking clue what a Raider team with normal football players looks like. This blog is proof of it.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I thought I had killed the braincells that held those memories.
Much to my chagrin, it’s all coming back to me now.
Knapp 1.0 offense as I remember:
1st.dn. Run to left, 2yrds.
2nd.dn. Run up the middle, 1yrd.
3rd.dn. Pass to TE, 5 yrds.
4th.dn. Pray for Shane to pin ‘em
Sound familiar?……
January 31st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Knapp is back with the Raiders but a REAL coach like Gruden will never be back??
How ironically weird! haha
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Gruden’s not a coach anymore. Might as well ask for Madden to come back, coaching Frank Gifford and Pat Sumerall.
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It’s funny though I things work out. Knapp back as OC of the Raiders….never would have thought of that one.
We’ll see how that turns out. I’m keeping my expectations low.
I would think this is Knapps last chance at being an OC in the NFL.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Gruden’s not a coach anymore. Might as well ask for Madden to come back, coaching Frank Gifford and Pat Sumerall.
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LOL, Duck you’ve “dated” yourself.
Liked all those guys.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
It’s KAMAKAZI!!
Loving that Al Davis is dead and Herrera will be fired and loving Knapp being hired as OC!
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
we hired a coach with the 20th ranked defense,we fire everyone responsible for a top ten offense with plenty of injuries and hire an old coordinator who had us ranked 27th when he was here.he uses a zbs we just got rid of to become one of the better lines in football.i am looking for something positive.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Knight, all defensive minded coaches promise an explosive offense. What are they supposed to say? But in reality, a good defensive team only needs an offense to score 20 or so points. Knapp is good enough for this system.
Knight, if you want to see a Raider team that scores 40 points a game, I’d decline to watch any games for a few years, and instead bust out the VHS tapes from the ’80s. Cause with a defensive minded GM and HC, it’s not happening.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Man some of yuse guys are really on the ledge. With all the carp you’ve seen as Raider fans over the last 10 years, you’re gunna let TODAY get to you?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
It’s funny though I things work out. Knapp back as OC of the Raiders….never would have thought of that one.
We’ll see how that turns out. I’m keeping my expectations low, so I won’t set myself for a huge letdown later.
I would think this is Knapps last chance at being an OC in the NFL….without a doubt!
January 31st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
909,
Anything more than a 5yd pass to the TE with Jamarcus was simply asking too much.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Wow. Herrera’s confrontation of Kawakami certainly had long term effects. Kawakami must have been shaking as he typed this. lol.
“AD would have forced Saunders on his new coach, period. That’s the way Al did things. No HC candidate with options would’ve ever accepted that–Dennis Allen wouldn’t have accepted that.”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Semi-pro reality – “Waaaaah! I want every coach hired to have already won 3 Super Bowls. These new hirees haven’t so they suck! Waaaaah!”
Raider/NFL reality – Management and coaches on same page regardless of past affiliations = possibility of success.
(Mike McCarthy sucked before Pack. Belicheat sucked before cheating. Jimmy Johnson sucked in Miami. Mariucci sucked in Detroit.)
man up children, the ride is only beginning.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Profound words by Kawakami. Best Raider article written in some time. Just nails it right here.
“And I know that the Raiders would’ve had to settle for a lesser HC candidate if they forced the HC to keep Saunders. They would not have gotten Allen under those circumstances.
They’re bad circumstances.
That’s how they got Norv Turner, Lane Kiffin, Art Shell Part 2, Tom Cable and Hue Jackson, by the way.
That’s how they had a split locker room and zero accountability. It worked when Al was at the top of his game, but that wasn’t the case lately.
And it’s not the way the Raiders are doing things now. Raiders fans have to get used to this, or they will be screaming a lot.”
January 31st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Chuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
we hired a coach with the 20th ranked defense,we fire everyone responsible for a top ten offense with plenty of injuries and hire an old coordinator who had us ranked 27th when he was here.he uses a zbs we just got rid of to become one of the better lines in football.i am looking for something positive.
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The positive, Satelle, and Carlisle are best suited to ZBS. lol
I think that Wiz and Vheldeer will be fine in any system.
Let’s just see what happens.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:41 pm
49.Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Knight, all defensive minded coaches promise an explosive offense. What are they supposed to say? But in reality, a good defensive team only needs an offense to score 20 or so points. Knapp is good enough for this system.
Knight, if you want to see a Raider team that scores 40 points a game, I’d decline to watch any games for a few years, and instead bust out the VHS tapes from the ’80s. Cause with a defensive minded GM and HC, it’s not happening.
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With Knapp they will lucky to score 20 bruh.
By all rights with all the talent they have on offense, they should be scoring 25-26 points a game or more…depending on the matchup and depending on who is hurt or not on offense.
Can the defense improve enough to pick up the offenses slack?
We’ll see….once again, it comes to Allen hiring the right GOOD coaches.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Semi-pro reality – “Waaaaah! I want every coach hired to have already won 3 Super Bowls. These new hirees haven’t so they suck! Waaaaah!”
Raider/NFL reality – Management and coaches on same page regardless of past affiliations = possibility of success.
(Mike McCarthy sucked before Pack. Belicheat sucked before cheating. Jimmy Johnson sucked in Miami. Mariucci sucked in Detroit.)
man up children, the ride is only beginning.
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Yep, just now starting the boarding process.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Required reading for the Raider Nation: Who Moved My Cheese by Ken Blanchard.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Posted on a Kwaikami article. This kind of says it all from a person who isn’t even a Raider fan:
Lance Newberry says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
If I were a Raider fan I would be deeply upset with Greg (take a) Knapp, and it would have absolutely nothing to do with tradition or Al Davis or whatever.
Knapp totally failed with the 49ers the three years he called plays and ran their offense, despite having superior talent each year. Those Mariucci/Knapp teams under-performed and were out-coached every year, and lost in the playoffs even with future Hall of Famers Steve Young, Jerry Rice, a young and brilliant Terrell Owens & much more, to teams that were inferior on the field, but not on the sideline.
Then he goes to Atlanta with his buddy Jim Mora Jr. and is given full control of the offense – FAILURE, big-time.
Then after failing in Oakland it was on to Seattle, again with Mora and again with full control – FAIL.
Even if you ignore the Jamarcus Raider years the guy has NEVER had success as an OC.
What continually amazes me is how this failed retread keeps getting OC jobs. I understand the good-ol-boy crony network that exists in major league baseball, and I hate that as well, but in football where coaching is so much more important and is DIRECTLY connected to every play, every game, it boggles my mind that Knapp is getting ANOTHER chance, and this time he will again be in total control since the head coach is a defensive guy.
It’s pretty much guaranteed that by mid-season anyone paying attention will know exactly what the Raiders are going to do in specific situations – 3rd-&-short, goal-line, 3rd-&-long, two minute drill, etc. because Knapp is totally predictable and basically runs the same plays in the same situations over & over.
To me this is a sign of Allen’s inexperience, going with a guy he knows instead of digging around and finding the RIGHT guy.
Good luck with Take a Knapp, Raider fans.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Herrera has bean neutered by McKenzie.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Step back in the window, get off that ledge…it’s going to be okay.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
With Knapp they will lucky to score 20 bruh.
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Dis agree.
It’s all about talent and matchups, and how the OC puts players in position to make plays.
Knapp has tools to work with.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
54.M Lonetree Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Semi-pro reality – “Waaaaah! I want every coach hired to have already won 3 Super Bowls. These new hirees haven’t so they suck! Waaaaah!”
Raider/NFL reality – Management and coaches on same page regardless of past affiliations = possibility of success.
(Mike McCarthy sucked before Pack. Belicheat sucked before cheating. Jimmy Johnson sucked in Miami. Mariucci sucked in Detroit.)
man up children, the ride is only beginning.
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Fans don’t need to man up bruh. Upper management, the coaches and players need to man up.
Wins and losses are on them!
This is Knapps last shot at being an NFL OC. Can he step his game up? Or will Raider Nation despise him as much as Chuck B was despised?
We shall see….
January 31st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
We need to grab us one of these FAST and ATHLETIC type TE’s this year. We seem to be behind the curve on this one. Thinking like a Gresham type kid. Anyone coming out this year you guys know of?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Herrera is a great office worker. Get ova it…
January 31st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
909,
Anything more than a 5yd pass to the TE with Jamarcus was simply asking too much.
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What about the great McCown, or the legendary Bellpepper?
Good point on JaMeatloaf, Saint….
January 31st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DKight, the man has been steadliy employed in the NFL for well over a decade and you arbitrarily decide it’s his LAST chance to be a OC? too funny today…
January 31st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Time to change the needle again Mystic. This one’s about down to the nub. Even diamond is no match for your blind hatred of Palmer.
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you can accuse me of hatred if you want, im only connecting the dots as i see them. i know its hard for palmer fans to digest but the circumstance he finds himself in isnt favorable in terms of him being the qb here after the 2012 season.
I cant understand how or why mere mention of this sends some fans into a tailspin, or constitutes hatred for palmer.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:47 pm
One thing I am looking forward to with the new regime and McK and his peeps are the drafting of players!
I expect us to draft smart, athletic, physical FOOTBALL players more consistently now and not just focus on straight line 40 times and height, weight, speed guys and former track guys.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
knapp sucks.
i can see why he didnt keep saunders. but i cant see how knapp is better. knapp has no track record of success and he’s had talent on other teams so his last stint with us is no excuse.
oh, and did i forget to mention that kawakami deserves to die?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Greg Knapp ??
Really ?
Ughh.
Let me get this straight…you talk about an up tempo aggressive offense…and then Greg Knapp ?
In an era where rule changes have made passing the ball the key to being a prolific offense – and when the Raids finally have a QB that can actually throw the ball with some success – we’re going to Greg Knapp ?
Maybe I’m missing something here but I don’t like this hire.
Would have liked to see what the current offensive scheme could do with a healthy DMAC, full complement of WRs and Palmer with an off-season of preparation.
Why re-invent an offense that performed pretty well despite a rash of crippling injuries ?
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Wish I could say that about the defense.
As always, hoping for the best… but this is a real head scratcher to me.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
68.JLofty Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DKight, the man has been steadliy employed in the NFL for well over a decade and you arbitrarily decide it’s his LAST chance to be a OC? too funny today…
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If he fails here as OC, do you think any other team in the NFL will hire him as an OC and primary play caller again?
I didn’t see any other teams in the NFL clamoring to add Knapp as their OC this off season or even last season.
He is a good QB coach at this stage of his career IMO. Still has alot to prove if he can be a good to great OC and play caller.
It’s wait and see man. I would love to be proven wrong.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RaiderLen,
read an article today that should serve as a caution to all the columnists/pundits here.
the read entailed how Whiner fans of decades are to be forced to pay for a new stadium by paying from 1,300 dollars this year for a good seat to 33,500 dollars for the same seat the first year in Santa Clara.
130 bucks/game is a rip-off, the other is castration
January 31st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Oh, my bad Mistic.
However, I think he is the PERFECT QB for this offense so I guess we just lucked out!!
January 31st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Does it really matter who the OC is? The offense will probably be better and more consistent just because all the stupid mistakes and penalties will disappear (hopefully).
January 31st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
What was the name of that guy that Cable punched? I wonder what he is doing now.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
One thing I am looking forward to with the new regime and McK and his peeps are the drafting of players!
I expect us to draft smart, athletic, physical FOOTBALL players more consistently now and not just focus on straight line 40 times and height, weight, speed guys and former track guys.
Oh and I think cap management will be better also.
I think the way the draft will be operated and ran will be more strategic as well. I think McK will try and add future picks much like what Belicheat and Thompson have done with their teams.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
76.Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Does it really matter who the OC is? The offense will probably be better and more consistent just because all the stupid mistakes and penalties will disappear (hopefully).
^^^^^^^^
Most of the Raiders penalties were on the defensive side of the ball.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
We need to grab us one of these FAST and ATHLETIC type TE’s this year. We seem to be behind the curve on this one. Thinking like a Gresham type kid. Anyone coming out this year you guys know of?
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What’s wrong with the TE’s we already have?
• Boss, Kevin 6-6 255
• Ausberry, David 6-4 245
• Gordon, Richard 6-4 265
• Myers, Brandon 6-4 250
We are not behind he curve. We already have BIG TE’s that can get open & catch. Hue just chose not to throw to them all that often. We don’t need new TE’s. We just need to use what we already have.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Knapp offense= run, run, pass, punk.
Remember 2007/2008? Some of the most predictable play calling in the NFL. Horrible
January 31st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Knapp over al saunders that is scary.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
After watching the interview my feeling is DA will be intense but not cocky like Hue. Discipline while not having players garner anger towards him as Hue possibly did. I get the feeling he’ll be more poised than Hue. However I will miss the fake punts/fg’s, going for it on 4th down, and deep passes on 3rd and short
January 31st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
January 31st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DKight, the man has been steadliy employed in the NFL for well over a decade and you arbitrarily decide it’s his LAST chance to be a OC? too funny today…
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If he fails here as OC, do you think any other team in the NFL will hire him as an OC and primary play caller again?
I didn’t see any other teams in the NFL clamoring to add Knapp as their OC this off season or even last season.
He is a good QB coach at this stage of his career IMO. Still has alot to prove if he can be a good to great OC and play caller.
It’s wait and see man. I would love to be proven wrong.
Plus he has alot of talent to work with here in Oakland on offense. If he can’t get it done here with this talent and no Al around, then he won’t get it done anywhere bruh.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
What was the name of that guy that Cable punched? I wonder what he is doing now.
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Randy Hanson? Whatever happened to that cat, anyway?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Carson Palmer is the first QB for the Silver and Black in a decade, that when he fakes the hand-off and drops back to pass I envision something good is about to occur.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
When i heard Allen say “explosive” “up tempo” offense i was think Oregon Ducks no huddle style offense. Maybe they bring in the O cord form the ducks or something like that.
Gregg Knapp? what the hell?
January 31st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Knapp offense= run, run, pass, punk.
Remember 2007/2008? Some of the most predictable play calling in the NFL. Horrible
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Remember who the Q was then? If Bill Walsh was our OC it would have been run, run, pass, puke.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
chuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Knapp over al saunders that is scary.
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And this from Bresnahan….
Kind of says it all
January 31st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Knapp offense= run, run, pass, punk.
Remember 2007/2008? Some of the most predictable play calling in the NFL. Horrible
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Remember who the Q was then? If Bill Walsh was our OC it would have been run, run, pass, puke.
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Again, any assistants who were here with JaPaycheck get a mulligan.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Man I can’t believe they let John Fassel walk! The man had two, TWO, passing TDs on ST this season.
I am OUTRAGED!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Randy Hanson is from Sacramento. Maybe he is MR.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
feels like the raiders are turning into a vanilla team again…,
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
What’s wrong with the TE’s we already have?
• Boss, Kevin 6-6 255
• Ausberry, David 6-4 245
• Gordon, Richard 6-4 265
• Myers, Brandon 6-4 250
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Two of those guys never saw an NFL field before, one was mainly an after thought and the other one was injured a lot. Not quite in the Gates, Gresham, Gronkowski mode, but certainly guys you hope can develop.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Knapp offense= run, run, pass, punk.
Remember 2007/2008? Some of the most predictable play calling in the NFL. Horrible
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Remember who the Q was then? If Bill Walsh was our OC it would have been run, run, pass, puke.
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One word= predictable
Also run heavy teams do not win champions which is what Knapp likes to do.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Randy Hanson is from Sacramento. Maybe he is MR.
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That would make a lot of sense. Especially his smarmy attitude and more than one person wanting to smash his grill.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Penalties 2011 = minus 100 yards/game
Hidden yards from returns or plays negated by penalty = 50 yds per game?
150? yds/game X 16 games = 2,400 yds of field position as well as innumerable first downs, touchdowns and scoring opportunites for both sides of the line of scrimmage.
cut the penalty/hidden yards in half and the Raiders win any game regardless of OC/DC.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
i wish kawakami would die.
i miss al davis.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Peace boys, you were entertaining as always….Mistic, you might want to spend LESS time connecting the dots and lay off the crazy pills…
January 31st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Randy Hanson is from Sacramento. Maybe he is MR.
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LMAO @ Alias
January 31st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Randy Hanson is from Sacramento. Maybe he is MR.
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That would make a lot of sense. Especially his smarmy attitude and more than one person wanting to smash his grill.
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It’s possible that Al or Herrera assigned Hanson to monitor this blog as MR.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Holy crap Lonetree.
WOW!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Raiders fans fear change. I think they prefer to have their team lose so they have something to complain about. Went to my first game in 1970 so I am not new to the nation. Seems to me that if we knew what we were talking about we’d be coaches not fans. Trust in McKenzie and Allen and let the results be what they are.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
102
thats actually quite believable.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Carson Palmer is the first QB for the Silver and Black in a decade, that when he fakes the hand-off and drops back to pass I envision something good is about to occur.
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I usually envision an INT= Reality
January 31st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Randy Hanson is from Sacramento. Maybe he is MR.
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That would make a lot of sense. Especially his smarmy attitude and more than one person wanting to smash his grill.
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It’s possible that Al or Herrera assigned Hanson to monitor this blog as MR.
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ROFLMAO @ Alias
January 31st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
What’s wrong with the TE’s we already have?
• Boss, Kevin 6-6 255
• Ausberry, David 6-4 245
• Gordon, Richard 6-4 265
• Myers, Brandon 6-4 250
We are not behind he curve. We already have BIG TE’s that can get open & catch. Hue just chose not to throw to them all that often. We don’t need new TE’s. We just need to use what we already have.
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JB,
I would say 7th rounder Ausberry is the cream here. Boss and Gordon are slow. Meyers is useable but as you have seen is pretty inconsistent. Ausberry is a little undersized as well but has some speed. I’m looking for us to go get one of these freaks that I see every weekend. There’s about 15 of them in the league now.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
He admits he is RMR, and then he starts talking crap about himself?!?!?!
WOW!!!!
I love this place!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Lmao! Great post #86
January 31st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Misty – you’re propaganda is falling flat on it’s face. Time to hang it up.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
can this nightmare end already…no imagination just retreads….
January 31st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Lonetree
Mike McCarthy ran a top-15 offense for 5 out of his 6 years as OC before going to Green Bay. Had a couple top-7 ones as well.
He did not suck.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
He admits he is RMR, and then he starts talking crap about himself?!?!?!
WOW!!!!
I love this place!
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Are you talking about me? I never admitted I was MR because I am not MR.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Can anyone that actually saw the presser announcing DA as HC tell me if this transcript is accurate ?
“McKenzie: “This is a team effort. When we go about getting players, work on getting a staff in here, how we gonna do things on the football side, we gonna do these things together.”
Did he actually say ‘how we gonna do things…and…’we gonna do these things together’ – or did he say “we’re” ?
I don’t believe there’s necessarily a direct correlation between being an effective GM and speaking English properly. I’m pretty sure being inarticulate won’t get in the way of being a good judge of talent.
But I’d still feel better about RM if he didn’t speak like a buffoon.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
BTW, find proof that I admitted that I was MR.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Raiders fans fear change. I think they prefer to have their team lose so they have something to complain about. Went to my first game in 1970 so I am not new to the nation. Seems to me that if we knew what we were talking about we’d be coaches not fans. Trust in McKenzie and Allen and let the results be what they are.
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Optimism is great but the reality is out of all the OC’s in college and potential OC’s in the NFL he picks frikin Knapp? Yeah change is good when it’s an improvement. 10th rank Offense even with the starting QB and RB down. If they don’t go down raiders would have been a top 5 offense and been in the playoffs
January 31st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
olinesux Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
can this nightmare end already…no imagination just retreads….
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Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen certainly are not retreads.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Spot On.
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chuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
we hired a coach with the 20th ranked defense,we fire everyone responsible for a top ten offense with plenty of injuries and hire an old coordinator who had us ranked 27th when he was here. He uses a zbs we just got rid of to become one of the better lines in football.i am looking for something positive.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Not liking the knapp signing. He will be the bresnahan of this offense this year
January 31st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
It’s OK RMR. What ever makes you happy. I don’t care, but I do think it’s funny.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Carson Palmer is the first QB for the Silver and Black in a decade, that when he fakes the hand-off and drops back to pass I envision something good is about to occur.
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Exactly! With Jscrub I was always expecting a pick6.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
jraider Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Carson Palmer is the first QB for the Silver and Black in a decade, that when he fakes the hand-off and drops back to pass I envision something good is about to occur.
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Exactly! With Jscrub I was always expecting a pick6.
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With Campbell I’d usually cover my eyes on any kind of tight throw into coverage. Palmer can usually rifle them in there.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:25 pm
the same zbs mcfadden had problems with we are bringing back very smart?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
If you watch enough film, you’ll see that when JC threw the deep ball, the cheerleaders started scattering right away, while fans in row 4 started anticipating a football coming their way baseball-style.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
jraider Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Carson Palmer is the first QB for the Silver and Black in a decade, that when he fakes the hand-off and drops back to pass I envision something good is about to occur.
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Exactly! With Jscrub I was always expecting a pick6.
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With Campbell I’d usually cover my eyes on any kind of tight throw into coverage. Palmer can usually rifle them in there.
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Oh come on? Campbell was having a great year.
Only 4 int’s in 6 games while Carson throws like 3 int’s a game.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
What’s wrong with the TE’s we already have?
• Boss, Kevin 6-6 255
• Ausberry, David 6-4 245
• Gordon, Richard 6-4 265
• Myers, Brandon 6-4 250
We are not behind he curve. We already have BIG TE’s that can get open & catch. Hue just chose not to throw to them all that often. We don’t need new TE’s. We just need to use what we already have.
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JB,
I would say 7th rounder Ausberry is the cream here. Boss and Gordon are slow. Meyers is useable but as you have seen is pretty inconsistent. Ausberry is a little undersized as well but has some speed. I’m looking for us to go get one of these freaks that I see every weekend. There’s about 15 of them in the league now.
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I know what you are saying but we have plenty of speed at WR now. I view the TE’s as the go to type guys. I’ve been around a long time and have seen some of he best Oakland TE’s play. Ray Chester was the big fast TE. Casper was the new hybrid. But, when it came to a go to guy, we had a smaller converted FB known as Todd Christensen who ended up as being the best of the bunch.
Brady is going to his dial TE’s because all he’s got besides them is Welker.
Brees is going to Graham because all he has besides him is Coleston.
We’ve got D-Wow, Ford, DHB, Reese, Bush & DMac (when he’s healthy) to throw to and that’s before we even get to the TE. I’d rather see us spend our efforts on replacing 3 O-Linemen (Satele, Carlisle & Barnes) and then we’d compete offensively with anybody – no doubt a top 5 offense.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RaidO Says:
10th rank Offense even with the starting QB and RB down.
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It was 16th ranked in the category that really matters: Scoring.
I wish you guys would stop with that top 10 offense crap already. Top 10 offenses don’t go MIA in the 4th quarter of 5 straight games. Top 10 offenses don’t get down 28-0 in multiple games.
The offense was not that good. A few good quarters – including garbage time – skewed those stats.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
DKnight, what’s Knapp’s career average ppg as OC? I honestly don’t know. If it’s near 20, he’s good enough for this system.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
this is just managing decay…..where are the bold steps forward. remember, to win championships, one has to something that has never been done.
me thinks we are going backwards here. I may be incorrect.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
to do ** something
January 31st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
jraider Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Carson Palmer is the first QB for the Silver and Black in a decade, that when he fakes the hand-off and drops back to pass I envision something good is about to occur.
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Exactly! With Jscrub I was always expecting a pick6.
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With Campbell I’d usually cover my eyes on any kind of tight throw into coverage. Palmer can usually rifle them in there.
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Oh come on? Campbell was having a great year.
Only 4 int’s in 6 games while Carson throws like 3 int’s a game.
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RaidO – are you Mystic’s alter ego?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
alex7 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Spot On.
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chuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
we hired a coach with the 20th ranked defense,we fire everyone responsible for a top ten offense with plenty of injuries and hire an old coordinator who had us ranked 27th when he was here. He uses a zbs we just got rid of to become one of the better lines in football.i am looking for something positive.
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Let me see if I can find something to boost some of your spirits. When Knapp went to Atlanta as the OC his teams went 11-5 then 8-8 then 7-9. Hue Jackson then took over as OC and went 4-12.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Albert, what these guys do is they’ll post something under your name that they wish you would say, then they hold you to that. They did that to me. They made it to where it seemed I was caught posting under multiple names. 666 will even post it routinely, as if it proves anything. This is a blog where anyone can go into their account and change their nickname to someone else’s name here. Desperation. An awful cologne.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Von Miller is about to be on 95.7 to talk about Allen as a coach….
January 31st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
i like Allen but not his hires so far…i would like to think that the new regime would rid me of having to convince myself that who we have on the staff are the right people……one question…why knapp?..why?..everyone knows why not…i need to know why?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
So, I guess Romney sang America The Beautiful to contrast 0bama’s singing of Al Green, to give the impression that he sings patriotic songs and not black soul songs. What a dork.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RaidingTexas – 1OAKLANDRAIDERS1 Champion Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RaidO Says:
10th rank Offense even with the starting QB and RB down.
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It was 16th ranked in the category that really matters: Scoring.
I wish you guys would stop with that top 10 offense crap already. Top 10 offenses don’t go MIA in the 4th quarter of 5 straight games. Top 10 offenses don’t get down 28-0 in multiple games.
The offense was not that good. A few good quarters – including garbage time – skewed those stats.
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I don’t write the rules but when people talk about overall stats Raiders were 10th in offense. Just like how people rant and rave about the offenses of:
Rankings,
1.Saints
2.Pats
3.Packers
I guess those stats don’t mean anything uh?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Ron Paul 7%. That Libertarian spirit comes through again.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Even if you don’t agree with the premise that it’s silly to make substantial changes to an offense that performed rather well despite a rash of crippling injuries, you’ve got to admit that Greg Knapp is a less than inspiring hire.
Don’t feel good about this at all.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Sullivan, I know. Someone hijacked by name a few times.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
I read this article about Knapp being named as OC:
ANALYSIS:
It may not be an inspiring choice to many, but he has been a very good staffer in the league and has a working relationship with Allen. Knapp was good enough for “Lance” and just the fact that he would’ve never be brought back by the old regime, may be good enough of an excuse to hire him to lead the offense.
Seriously, Knapp did a great job in Houston this past season after season ending injuries to Matt Schaub and Matt Leinart and eventually working with rookie T.J. Yates.
Ultimately, it’s imperative they get a play caller and coach that can work together with Carson Palmer and continue to develop their youthful receiving unit. Incorporating Kevin Boss into the attack more will be a priority, along with maintaining the team’s strength the last few years – their ground attack.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
ROFLMAO @ Alias!!!
Dude is too funny.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Not sure why some in here would think that the WCO would be a bad fit for Palmer. The guy can make every throw and is very good at “throwing receivers open”, which is an important skill for a WCO quarterback to have. He’s a veteran, he’s smart, and he’s accurate. All characteristics you look for in a WCO quarterback.
Palmer’s “demise”, as some of you are predicting (and even hoping for), is farther away than you might think. It’s not like there’s anyone on the roster that could take his place, now or in the near future.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
ET,
I thought Palmer wanted out of Cincinnati due to Lewis trying to go with more WC system.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Romney’s speech sucked as bad as his singing.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Sandusky44 don’t lie you got caught red handed by me and Seymour Bush posting under your other pseudo names.
You know exactly what happened!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I scroll right through all of these wannabe inspector gadget comments about who’s posting as who. As long as people are capable of posting under any name they want on this blog, anything’s possible. So it’s all stupid.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I remember that. Priceless!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
ET,
I thought Palmer wanted out of Cincinnati due to Lewis trying to go with more WC system.
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Palmer wanted out because the Bengals organization sucks.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Not sure why some in here would think that the WCO would be a bad fit for Palmer. The guy can make every throw and is very good at “throwing receivers open”, which is an important skill for a WCO quarterback to have. He’s a veteran, he’s smart, and he’s accurate. All characteristics you look for in a WCO quarterback.
Palmer’s “demise”, as some of you are predicting (and even hoping for), is farther away than you might think. It’s not like there’s anyone on the roster that could take his place, now or in the near future.
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Yeah, but the QB needs to be some what mobile. That is not Carson. Plus the quick throw dink and dunk thing is going to equal a boat load more INT’s for Carson. He is already bad enough now in the current offense and through out his career.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Most QBs favor a west coast system. It’s a stat and QB rating booster. Which transcends into $$$ come next contract negotiation.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Palmer is going to be fine no matter what offense we run Reggie is committed to Carson there is no debate here move along people….
January 31st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
He admits he is RMR, and then he starts talking crap about himself?!?!?!
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Rather than being able to respond with a cogent point……it’s oh, you’re MR.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
I guess you are right Sullivan. I apoliogize.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
KoolKell, what’s up my man?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
144.Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
ET,
I thought Palmer wanted out of Cincinnati due to Lewis trying to go with more WC system.
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I’ve heard rumors O, but the prevailing one is that he was just tired of Mike Brown and his shenanigans and wanted a change of scenery. If he couldn’t get it he was just going to retire.
Reggie and coach Allen said yesterday that they’d both spoken to Palmer. I’m speculating here, but given that Allen was only hired about a week ago and Knapp is coming on board so shortly thereafter leads me to believe that Palmer knew about Knapp’s hiring way before we did.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Nice try monkeys!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
So, I guess Romney sang America The Beautiful to contrast 0bama’s singing of Al Green, to give the impression that he sings patriotic songs and not black soul songs. What a dork.
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Romney was soooo lame.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Palmer in a WC system= Pick 6 all day long.
Jason Campbell get ready….
January 31st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Here comes the Blog’s idiot to the rescue. Should you be busy doing a gray job of copy & paste from wiki?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m out. About to watch me some Glee.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
I can just go under SNB666’s name right now, post a comment. Then go under a different name, make the same point. Then post under 666 again, and say something that the other person would have said. Then I’ll back to my name, and go, “Caught! Caught you 666!!! Caught you posting under different names!!!”. That’s basically what they did. Junior high schit.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RaidO = MysticSuperVillian
There’s no doubt now!
He just can’t get over the Bromance
January 31st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
What is this? The sky is falling and the sun hasn’t even come up yet. Gnashing of teeth, rending the breasts, tearing the hair. Bricks without straw. Let it play out and then you can say I told you so. But no one right now has a clue. Even those that think so.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Monkey,
What is Glee?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Yeah, but the QB needs to be some what mobile. That is not Carson. Plus the quick throw dink and dunk thing is going to equal a boat load more INT’s for Carson. He is already bad enough now in the current offense and through out his career.
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Not necessarily. The WCO is a style of play, not a list of plays. There are many different versions of it. As an example, Steve Young was a very mobile QB that thirved in the system. Brett Favre was not. Both are in the Hall of Fame.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Palmer is going to be fine no matter what offense we run Reggie is committed to Carson there is no debate here move along people….
January 31st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
150,QB of the Oakland Raiders is Palmer,for the next few years,period.Stop being a whiner,you and m1,relax,see what happens,fellas
January 31st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
ET,
We should continue this chat later.
It’s time to go Zoo Keeper on those Monkeys!!!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Did Brien get banned?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Uh oh, look at this!!!!
Do these two comments look familiar or what?
IT’S PROOF!!! PROOF THAT 666 IS POSTING UNDER MULTIPLE NAMES!!!!
PROOF!!! PROOF!!!! LOOK, IT’S RIGHT HERE!!!!!!!
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Palmer is going to be fine no matter what offense we run Reggie is committed to Carson there is no debate here move along people….
Fat Loser Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Palmer is going to be fine no matter what offense we run Reggie is committed to Carson there is no debate here move along people….
January 31st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
No copy and paste today?!?!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
169.Raider O Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
ET,
We should continue this chat later.
It’s time to go Zoo Keeper on those Monkeys!!!!!
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Peace out, Raider O!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
666 and Fat Loser are the same person!!!
I proved it!!!!
Proved it!!!!!!
Scroll up!!!!
The proof is right there!!!!
It’s proof!!!
Proof!!!!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
See how easy this stupid game is?
Next.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Sullivan44, #171,
Or, Fat Loser may cut and pasted 666’s original entry ?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
So you admit you are a troll who just jacked my name?!
You are dumber than I thought.
January 31st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Hardline, what other names do you post under?
January 31st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
HOT!~ 01-31-12: CAUGHT KNAPPING
Some Bay Area writers can’t understand fans frustration with the report of OC Greg Knapp returning to the Raiders. We’ll help them out…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
January 31st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
666 and Fat Loser are the same person!!!
I proved it!!!!
Proved it!!!!!!
Scroll up!!!!
The proof is right there!!!!
It’s proof!!!
Proof!!!!!!
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Calm down you little monkey. You are disturbing the other monkeys.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I also post under Master Beeecham, Method to My Madness, and Mista Brown.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Albert #178,
Just this one Albert, Hardline. Although I was one of those who was recently banned under an old screenname which now is listed as “invalid screenname”.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I believe I was banned for irreverence toward AD, and general disrespect toward Raider staff and players.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Hardline Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Albert #178,
Just this one Albert, Hardline. Although I was one of those who was recently banned under an old screenname which now is listed as “invalid screenname”.
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So were you John Tweedy or Al D. Davis?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Hardline, if you ever get banned again. You can use a free proxy site. They can’t trace your IP address that way.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
[...] 2007-10 and coached linebackers for the Chargers (2002-06) and Washington Redskins (2001). Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
January 31st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Albert, #181,
you really post under Master Beeecham, Method to My Madness, and Mista Brown?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RD,
I was thinking the same thing.
Who let the monkeys out?!?!
Oohhh Oohhh
Eehhh eehh
Ahh ahh
January 31st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Albert #185,
I was AL D. Davis
January 31st, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Somebody correct me if I’m misremembering, but Knapp had us as a top 10 rushing attack while he was here, and I think we were either top 5 or close to it during Russell’s rookie year.
Word came from the top that Russell wasn’t drafted to hand the ball off, and the offense suffered greatly the following year because he wasn’t ready to play a bigger role. Sorta scuttled the overall effort, and may skew Knapp’s record here a little bit.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Hardline Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I believe I was banned for irreverence toward AD, and general disrespect toward Raider staff and players.
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Is that you KK? LOL
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
wow. one dude owns all the monikers. so its just you and me, eh buddy?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Albert, congratulations on such sophisticated articulation of the various screennames: Master Beeecham, Method to My Madness, and Mista Brown.
Each sounds different from the others. I think it is easy to know I was once AL D. Davis
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
When Knapp was here last i’m pretty sure DMAC made some comment saying that the offense did not fit his style.
Trade bait?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Hardline Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Albert, congratulations on such sophisticated articulation of the various screennames: Master Beeecham, Method to My Madness, and Mista Brown.
Each sounds different from the others. I think it is easy to know I was once AL D. Davis
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Yeah, I am trained in method acting. I get into character every time I post on this blog. I take it real serious.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
I’m not Sullivan, though.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
194.RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
When Knapp was here last i’m pretty sure DMAC made some comment saying that the offense did not fit his style.
Trade bait?
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Whew. Now THAT would divide the Nation.
All I can say is that if McFadden IS traded for picks, those picks had better pan out. Hell to pay if they don’t.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
watching newt say he will never retreat! lol. i love newt!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
So for all of us trying to pretend the Knapp hiring isn’t a grease fire ready to happen… lets take a trip down memory lane.. shall we (I bet Tom Cable is laughing his ass off over this hire)
Interim head coach Tom Cable has taken over the play-calling duties for the Oakland Raiders from offensive coordinator Greg Knapp in another move to spark the NFL’s lowest-scoring offense.
Cable said that he relieved Knapp of his duties before last week’s 17-6 loss to the Carolina Panthers and would remain in that role for the rest of the season.
“I feel responsible for where we’re at offensively,” Cable said. “With that being the case and my nature and my personality I’ve got to find a way to do more and help where I can. I really haven’t been active in that role, obviously as the line coach, but I feel that responsibility now and want to shoulder that responsibility so I’m more involved.”
Knapp was replaced after the worst offensive output for the Raiders in 47 years, when they gained just 77 yards and had a franchise-low three first downs in a 24-0 loss to the Falcons. Things picked up a bit in Cable’s first game calling plays, with Oakland gaining 259 yards and making 17 first downs against the Panthers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3699316
January 31st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
That DMAC comment about Knapp’s offense not fitting his style was when Hue came in as OC.
I bet somebody in the media will bring it up.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:13 pm
You heard it her first
January 31st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
That DMAC comment about Knapp’s offense not fitting his style was when Hue came in as OC.
I bet somebody in the media will bring it up.
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Did he say about the 2008 Kiffin/Knapp offense, or the 2009 Cable/Tollner fiasco?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Trade Dmac! overpaid for production. either sign him for half a season, or pay him half the salary, either way, he produces great stats for 8 game seasons.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
watching newt say he will never retreat! lol. i love newt!
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He won’t retreat. He would go over the cliff Thelma and Louise style himself, with his wife, his family, his party and take the country with him, but admit he was wrong…NEVER!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
watching newt say he will never retreat! lol. i love newt!
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He won’t retreat. He would go over the cliff Thelma and Louise style himself, with his wife, his family, his party and take the country with him, but admit he was wrong…NEVER!!!
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And I’m sure he would “fundamentally transform” the cliff on his way down, too…
January 31st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Albert, # 195
Seriously ?
BTW, how do you like the new format since Corky cracked his whip regarding disrespect, race-baiting, irreverence to the powers-to-be, and off-the-Raiders-Topic chat ?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Hardline Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Albert, # 195
Seriously ?
BTW, how do you like the new format since Corky cracked his whip regarding disrespect, race-baiting, irreverence to the powers-to-be, and off-the-Raiders-Topic chat ?
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No, I was just joking. But, I doubt anything will change on this blog. I guess you got banned, though. You could use a proxy site and they can’t catch you.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
The Knapp hiring is a poor choice….Manusky would be the choice that gets DA out of Oakland quickly and McKenzie unemployed soon after!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:26 pm
dog Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
So for all of us trying to pretend the Knapp hiring isn’t a grease fire ready to happen… lets take a trip down memory lane.. shall we (I bet Tom Cable is laughing his ass off over this hire)
Interim head coach Tom Cable has taken over the play-calling duties for the Oakland Raiders from offensive coordinator Greg Knapp in another move to spark the NFL’s lowest-scoring offense.
Cable said that he relieved Knapp of his duties before last week’s 17-6 loss to the Carolina Panthers and would remain in that role for the rest of the season.
“I feel responsible for where we’re at offensively,” Cable said. “With that being the case and my nature and my personality I’ve got to find a way to do more and help where I can. I really haven’t been active in that role, obviously as the line coach, but I feel that responsibility now and want to shoulder that responsibility so I’m more involved.”
Knapp was replaced after the worst offensive output for the Raiders in 47 years, when they gained just 77 yards and had a franchise-low three first downs in a 24-0 loss to the Falcons. Things picked up a bit in Cable’s first game calling plays, with Oakland gaining 259 yards and making 17 first downs against the Panthers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=369931
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Nice find.
Great, Raiders go 6-10 or 7-9 in 2012
January 31st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
“Knapp was replaced after the worst offensive output for the Raiders in 47 years, when they gained just 77 yards and had a franchise-low three first downs in a 24-0 loss to the Falcons. Things picked up a bit in Cable’s first game calling plays, with Oakland gaining 259 yards and making 17 first downs against the Panthers.’
When Cable is calling plays better we have a “Big” problem. Same players.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:30 pm
202.RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
That DMAC comment about Knapp’s offense not fitting his style was when Hue came in as OC.
I bet somebody in the media will bring it up.
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Did he say about the 2008 Kiffin/Knapp offense, or the 2009 Cable/Tollner fiasco?
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Say what you want about Kiffin, but his desire to bring Russell along slowly was the ONLY way it was going to work. Al got impatient and decided that Kiffin wasn’t moving fast enough with Russell, whom Davis had drafted to heave the ball down the field and strike fear into opposing defenses.
That was the beginning of the end. Knapp was an extension of Kiffin, hence the great rushing stats in Russell’s rookie year. As the pressure increased from the top, the game plans changed to the point where Cable, after taking over from Kiffin, decided to appease the old man and throw the ball more. Knapp was caught in the middle.
It will be interesting to see what he can do with more freedom and a real NFL quarterback.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
edward teach, #211,
Teach, you are probably correct. Anyway, Kiffen saw the writing on the wall. I wonder if he ever was paid the balance on his contract ?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Randy Hanson is from Sacramento. Maybe he is MR.
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hahahahahahahahahaha…
January 31st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Man..what a depressing move.
I tried to keep level-headed about these things but hiring Knapp basically has me already giving up on 2012 season. I live in the Seattle area and I saw this guy with the Seattle Seahawks after his days in Oakland and what a joke of an offense..very predictable and conservative.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Not particularly happy with the decision to run Saunders however, I will support this move 100%.
Hopefully with the new toys/tools Knapp has, he can build an explosive offense. I will wait until week 8.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
HC. Allen
OC. Knapp
DC. Manusky
= Horrible
= Raider fan outrage
= 6-10 2012 season
= Allen and McKenzie shown the door.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Maybe Knapp’s bad record resulted from circumstances beyond his control. Afterall he did resurrect the Texans from the grave when they were headed south in heaps of trouble. If we regress next season, I think Allen’s head will roll, as well as Knapp’s.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Like Al’s meddling doesn’t factor at all into any OC’s lack of success here in the past. A lot of Raider fans are too stupid for words. Glad Mark is just ignoring their irrelevant yipping and doing what he thinks will make the Raiders a real football team for the first time in a decade.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Knapp as OC and Manusky as DC= Puke
January 31st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Greg Knapp has coached with guys like Seifert, Pete Carroll, Mohrinweg, Kubiak, and coached players like Steve Young, Mike Vick, Matt Schaub, and he just turned a guy who never played before into a guy who won a playoff game this year. I’m glad you guys are nervous. It means the Raiders are on the right track.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
fansince1982 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Man..what a depressing move.
I tried to keep level-headed about these things but hiring Knapp basically has me already giving up on 2012 season. I live in the Seattle area and I saw this guy with the Seattle Seahawks after his days in Oakland and what a joke of an offense..very predictable and conservative.
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And in Seattle, his QB, RB, OL, and WRs were way worse than what we had.
Example: his best running back was Julius Jones, who would be the FOURTH-best RB on this team.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Tickets are going to sell like hot cakes now that Al’s gone. You know how many fans were avoiding games because of Al’s management? So, any season tix holders outraged over us becoming a defensive team can cancel any time they want. They won’t be missed. Stay home, drink, and kick your dog while the rest of us enjoy this new era of Raider football.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Nice find.
Great, Raiders go 6-10 or 7-9 in 2012
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I will disagree with the predicted records.
Compare our offensive roster then and now.
1. Better RB’s
2. Better *TE’s
3. Better WR’s
4. Better Oline
5. Better QB
*only area where you can make a case for zmill otherwise our current team is head and shoulders more talented than the past team.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
The more you “fans” whine, the more I know it is the right choice to bring these guys in here.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Maybe Knapp’s bad record resulted from circumstances beyond his control. Afterall he did resurrect the Texans from the grave when they were headed south in heaps of trouble. If we regress next season, I think Allen’s head will roll, as well as Knapp’s.
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Knapp was only the QB coach. Kubiak and the OC Rick Dennison run the texans offense.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
JB Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
CARSON IS A STOP GAP I DOUBT HE SURVIVES INTO 2013, NOT ONLY BECAUSE HE DOESNT FIT THE WCO, BUT HE NEEDS TO LEARN A NEW PLAYBOOK (WHICH WE SAW IS A STRUGGLE FOR HIM) AND HE WILL CONTINUE THROWING PICKS.
Sorry guys, enjoy it while you can his time is running out
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Sour grapes from a BroMance with JCampbell that didn’t fly. Get over it Mystic. Your saga has already gotten old and many of us are tired of it. If you don’t like CP, that’s your right. But please don’t come in here and try to blow smoke up our a$$ about how bad CP is. I too happened to like Soup. I think he’s a good person and decent QB. But, he’s not CP level of ability nor will he ever be. Peole like you come in here trying to beat down CP for INT’s. There are 3 people involved in and possibly responsible for an INT. In CP’s case here, the vast majority on INT’s while at Oak were not his responsibility. CP will make passes that Soup would not even try. Therein lies the difference.
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Nope jb it you that cant bear the thought of your golden hair hero being reduced to the level of seat warmer and that is exactly what has happened.
You may try to make it about something else fro the sake of self comfort, but the facts remain.
palmer was brought in as a band aid, and he hasnt been able to elevate himself from that role.
Worship him if you must, but he will have to prove on the field that he can cut the mustard, and the deck is firmly stacked against him.
I don’t know why this is such a sore spot for some raider fans, but face it, to this point the palmer move has been a debacle and failure of mammoth proportions.
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Mistic1 Tha Supamoron, Do us a favor and get a clue before you continue to post your negative, fact less nonsense on this blog.
First off, where do you come up with the statement that Palmer had a problem learning the offense? Are you serious? The guy had two practices and managed to grasp enough of the playbook to actually play in the game. I know he did have a pretty bad game with the INT’s, but half of those pics actually were do to the WR’s not catching the ball and tipping it into the air. To even be able to come into that game and run plays says a lot about his intelligence and grasp of his football knowledge.
Your second statement, saying Palmer can’t run a West Coast offense is another fact less blabber coming from your stubby fingers. Palmer ran the West Coast offense at USC, where he was the nation’s best college QB and best college player period, winning the Heisman.
Third, are you color blind? Carson’s golden hair? News flash genius, he has red hair……
Like I said, get a clue before you post your garbage….
Thank you,
Real Raider Fans
January 31st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Sullivan44, # 218,222
In your opinion why is Knapp a proper choice of OC ?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Manusky was key in building a 49er defense that’s one of the best in the league, then he only gets one year in SD, and gets scapegoated for a defense he built about 5% of. You guys don’t want him because he was with the niners. I know you types of Raider fans too well..and you are just drowning in a lake called Stupidity. You’re embarrassing. You’re the reason why everyone thinks Raider fans are stupid. Kawakami is spot on.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
This is easy. Dennis Allen, sight unseen, is a better HC than Hue Joke-son. Greg Knapp is a better play caller than Jackson. Greg Manusky is a defensive upgrade to Chuck Bresnahan. Enuff said.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Manusky was key in building a 49er defense that’s one of the best in the league, then he only gets one year in SD, and gets scapegoated for a defense he built about 5% of. You guys don’t want him because he was with the niners. I know you types of Raider fans too well..and you are just drowning in a lake called Stupidity. You’re embarrassing. You’re the reason why everyone thinks Raider fans are stupid. Kawakami is spot on.
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I couldn’t care less where someone coached before. Either he’s the best man for the job based on his skill set, or he’s not.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I hope Manusky was in just for an interview…and that is it!
January 31st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Hardline,
I like Knapp for this system because of his personality. He’s not the type of OC that’s going to try to score 50 points in a defensive system, and clash with the offensive coaches. He’s a good team player, doesn’t have an ego. And on a defensive minded team, that’s what you need as OC. The last thing we need are fights on the sideline because we have an OC who’s trying to wag his junk around and throw deep every other down, giving our defense no rest. We need high percentage and ball control out of our offense, and about 20 points a game. We need an OC that will understand and work under a defensive system. Knapp is perfect.
January 31st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Sullivan44, #228
Why your fondness for Manusky? I have heard some really bad things about him. Was he really responsible for building the current rendition of the 49′ers “D”?
If so who can argue against him being our DC ?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
We have all been asking for coaching upgrades…
looks like we willl get them….
I bet the Semi Pro’s can call a better game than Bres…
January 31st, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Since coming in as a personnel guy in 1994, the Green Bay Packers are one of the top two or three teams in the entire league. McKenzie v. Al Davis, might have to give the nod to McKenzie these last years. Check mate.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Doom and Gloom. Wow, one minute most of you are excited, next Suicidal.
We have been the laughingstock of the NFL for 9 years!
Change, any change is needed and welcome!!
Reggie know what he is doing, period!! He gets the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise!
No more Al Davis ways. The D.A. is fresh, no raided ties and all that other crap.
This is a new ERA!! Get used to it!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Unless he is the absolute best we can come up with! I rather see if Donatell is interested, however, is it true that he wanted to kick Knapp’s a** while they were in Atlanta together? If that is true,then it could mean that he wouldn’t want to come here based on past experiences!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Manusky is as good as anyone available for DC. He was intricate in building what is one of the best defenses in football right now. He’s only gone because Harbaugh wants his guys. His termination in SD is a joke. He was there one year, and is being blamed for years of failure. McKenzie/D. Allen/Manusky. We should be solid on defense. And we’ll only need around 20 points from Knapp. We’re going to have a lot of low scoring games and in time, we’re going to win most of them. I’m ready to go. I like this system. Will be buying game tickets for the first time in a decade. I’m behind what Mark has done. It all looks good.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
But Thec is right! Manusky will be an upgrade to Chuck B!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Unless he is the absolute best we can come up with! I rather see if Donatell is interested, however, is it true that he wanted to kick Knapp’s a** while they were in Atlanta together? If that is true,then it could mean that he wouldn’t want to come here based on past experiences!
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Ah a little intrigue. Something new to Raiderland…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Sullivan:
Agree 100%!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
This is easy. Dennis Allen, sight unseen, is a better HC than Hue Joke-son. Greg Knapp is a better play caller than Jackson. Greg Manusky is a defensive upgrade to Chuck Bresnahan. Enuff said.
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LOL, you are crazy. If DMAC and J Campbell don’t go down the raiders would have had a top 5 offense, in the playoffs, and we would not be having this conversation.
All they had to do was get Hue a decent D cord and everything would have been fine.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
But Thec is right! Manusky will be an upgrade to Chuck B!
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We have guys on this blog that know more about football than bres without a doubt. The guy should not be in the NFL…
I wouldnt let him DCO a pop warner team.
He should switch to coaching baseball, or tennis.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
This is easy. Dennis Allen, sight unseen, is a better HC than Hue Joke-son. Greg Knapp is a better play caller than Jackson. Greg Manusky is a defensive upgrade to Chuck Bresnahan. Enuff said.
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LOL, you are crazy. If DMAC and J Campbell don’t go down the raiders would have had a top 5 offense, in the playoffs, and we would not be having this conversation.
All they had to do was get Hue a decent D cord and everything would have been fine.
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What about that all-time NFL record for penalties, or the repeated flat and uninspired performances in our biggest games last year?
Hue was NOT the answer.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
303, any fans that haven’t faced the fact yet that the Davis era is over are in for a tough rude awakening. They will never again see a Raider team that tries to win with the deep ball and man defense. Never again. If they haven’t faced it yet, it’s going to be rough for them. I just don’t know what to say. I feel bad for them. It clearly hasn’t sunk in yet. When we start winning, they’ll be on board. But in the meantime they’re going to be an unstable bunch, and their panic, knee jerk reaction will be to go back to Al’s failed ways, hoping some of that 1960’s magic will kick in. It will never happen. There’s nobody in the front office with any executive power that will go back to those days. Not Mark. Not Reggie.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
If my Aunt had Ballz, she’d be my Uncle!!
The stank of Al Davis is gone!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Let me ask you MR, since I really don’t follow the Niners…was it Manusky? I know there D has gotten better through the Nolan years and Singletary, but it wasn’t like it was this year…based on watching the 2 playoff games this past few weeks…So, did Manusky build up the “nucleus” and Vic Pangino made it better, or were they just missing the secondary which is what everyone says?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Hardline,
I like Knapp for this system because of his personality. He’s not the type of OC that’s going to try to score 50 points in a defensive system, and clash with the offensive coaches. He’s a good team player, doesn’t have an ego. And on a defensive minded team, that’s what you need as OC. The last thing we need are fights on the sideline because we have an OC who’s trying to wag his junk around and throw deep every other down, giving our defense no rest. We need high percentage and ball control out of our offense, and about 20 points a game. We need an OC that will understand and work under a defensive system. Knapp is perfect.
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You talk like Raiders have a top 5 defense. lol
January 31st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
212.Hardline Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
edward teach, #211,
Teach, you are probably correct. Anyway, Kiffen saw the writing on the wall. I wonder if he ever was paid the balance on his contract ?
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No idea. Probably making enough at SC that he doesn’t care.
On another topic, I saw your comment about my conversation with Corkran last night. For the record, the only thing I pointed out to him was Tweedy’s post about Hue’s genetic makeup. I copied him on it. Never mentioned you or any of your posts.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
I mean these guys don’t want Manusky. Because he rebuilt the Niner defense. That’s the exact reason I do want him! The Niners defense has been on beast mode for the past few years.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Like I’ve said, until the Old Man dies we would go in circles.
God bless his soul! New sheriffs are in town!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Raid O,
We’re in year one of McKenzie/Allen/. And our defense is supposed to be top 5 already? You’re funny!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Were a top 15 defense next year, book it!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Were a top 15 defense next year, book it!
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That will get us in the tournament….
January 31st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
It’s going to take a couple of years. As I said, we’re going to lose some games this year. It’s not going to be pretty in year one. But when we do start to land those defensive players, it’s going to gel. And we will start winning games in which we only score 20, like those top 5 defenses. That’s what this system is designed to do. It doesn’t happen overnight, Raid0. Not for us, not for anyone.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
This is easy. Dennis Allen, sight unseen, is a better HC than Hue Joke-son. Greg Knapp is a better play caller than Jackson. Greg Manusky is a defensive upgrade to Chuck Bresnahan. Enuff said.
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LOL, you are crazy. If DMAC and J Campbell don’t go down the raiders would have had a top 5 offense, in the playoffs, and we would not be having this conversation.
All they had to do was get Hue a decent D cord and everything would have been fine.
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wouldashouldacoulda. funniest part is the guy who you would rather have, couldn’t get it done. Yet the guy who lost his Pro Bowl starting Q, 2nd string Q, All Pro WR, league leading rusher, did get it done. And then took a guy who had no business out there and won a playoff game with him. That guy is now here. Jackson is on the talk show circuit.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
And before you bring up Harbaugh, remember he inherited a pretty good defense. Harbaugh inherited a solid defensive system 5 years in the making. He didn’t just come in and rescue a talentless team. And I’m betting he starts to dismantle that defense the Niners regress. I’ve been saying that since he was hired. We’ll see. That being said, it doesn’t happen overnight. We’re not going to get overnight results from this system. Reggie and Dennis inherited a team that’s been the door mat of the league for the past decade.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
303Raider Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Were a top 15 defense next year, book it!
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We need a VERY very good outside pass rusher. And a good ILB. Then we will be a top 7 defense.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Raid O,
We’re in year one of McKenzie/Allen/. And our defense is supposed to be top 5 already? You’re funny!!
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That’s the point Raiders did not need a top 5 D. They just needed a decent D. This is based on the CURRENT offense. Raiders are/ “were” close.
Once again If DMAC and J Campbell don’t go down the raiders would have had a top 5 offense, in the playoffs, and we would not be having this conversation.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
I will say this, one area of improvement will be finding the great players everyone else sleeps on.
Pats, and GB build thru the draft and UDFA.
Our new GM specifically mentioned that he would be active in UDFA.
I do not expect us to make a big splash in FA however, I do expect us to build through the draft, which is a much better methodology in my opinion.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
255.Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
It’s going to take a couple of years. As I said, we’re going to lose some games this year. It’s not going to be pretty in year one. But when we do start to land those defensive players, it’s going to gel. And we will start winning games in which we only score 20, like those top 5 defenses. That’s what this system is designed to do. It doesn’t happen overnight, Raid0. Not for us, not for anyone.
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I hope we’re better than that on offense. The Achilles’ heel for those great defenses is more often than not an offense that can’t score when they need to. With a rare excetion here and there those teams usually get beat in the playoffs.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
And San Diego proved in our final game last year that we were STILL the doormat of the league, despite our streaky success mid season. Must win game if there ever was one, and we looked as bad as any Raider team in the past 9 years.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I’m not sure about Knapp, but I’m all in with McKenzie and Allen.
Keep in mind that if Hue was such a hot commodity, why aren’t teams lined up to hire him for an open position? I was very disappointed when AD elevated him to head coach, especially after researching his resume. It seems that he talks his way into a higher position at every stop, and is gone soon after.
I’m guessing the league has caught on, especially after he ran off the rails here.
Looking for good things from the Silver & Black…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
We need a VERY very good outside pass rusher. And a good ILB. Then we will be a top 7 defense.
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We go top 7 in D we lose our 2013 1st rd pick…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
One thing I keep leaving out, is that in today’s game, you need a QB, too. Franchise QB is as key as a defense. That’s where the balance comes in. That’s where you get your Brady and Roethlibergers. Take Brady and Big Ben out of the equation, and the Steelers and Patriots are defensive teams, living and dying by their defense. Knapp is fine. We need a QB. You draft for 3 years down the road, and we have nobody that can be relied upon 3 years from now. We have to take the best QB we can get, either this year or next.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Looking for good things from the Silver & Black…
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Good things are in store. In my opinion the org is on solid footing. We will be better.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Its been slow but interesting…
No reason to get down on this team right now.
Time to get behind the GM/HC and support this team.
1 NATION…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
edward teach, #249,
Thanks for your opinion.
I think it is appropriate that the blog be a marketplace of ideas, and that issues are settled with words instead of deeds. It’s better a heated conversation and on-going discussion then violence or insurrection: or so the founding fathers declared.
However, this blog is a private blog and the content can be burdened. Also there was some non-protected speech going on here, which was inappropriate in content.
With that said, we don’t want to suppress content too much so the blog is boring.
In any case Teach you are welcome voice.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Thec Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
We need a VERY very good outside pass rusher. And a good ILB. Then we will be a top 7 defense.
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We go top 7 in D we lose our 2013 1st rd pick…
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I don’t think that’s true. I think if we made the playoffs this year, our 2013 2nd rounder would then become a lst rounder to Cincy. Correct me if I am wrong..
January 31st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
So ok, it was Manusky who did it…I wonder why SD players hated him and so called petitioned him out?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
on the hiring of Knapp;
Palmer is a better qb than Schaub & Russell;
so we shall find out good he really is.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
He is reaching guys and I have obviously upset him he is in full spin mode trying to defend himself.
Its fun to watch.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
we have to reach the AFC championship game [win or lose] in order for Cincinnati to gain our 1st round selection instead of our second round pick.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
The 2013 1st round pick would have went to Cinci if we made the AFC Championship game…now, I’m not sure, but I think it was mentioned that if we make it this coming year also, then it will be upgraded to 1st!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Remember what I told you guys two weeks ago. We have a GM who has never been a GM before. We have a HC who has never been a HC ON ANY LEVEL before. If we went for some hot shot position coaches and elevated them, we would have more guys doing things they have never done and that is a recipe for disaster. We needed some guys who have “been there and done that”, at the coordinator spots. If they don’t pan out, and we can upgrade those spots in the future, we will.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2012/1/17/2696253/was-greg-manusky-a-scapegoat
‘Was Greg Manusky a Scapegoat?’
January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
The only thing making this deal seem better is that when he was here look who the qb was. Jabustus!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
From PFT:
Manusky, who came from San Francisco with an excellent reputation, oversaw San Diego’s defensive decline in 2011. The team fell from tenth in points allowed to 22nd and first in yards allowed to 16th.
It was a soft defense that struggled against physical competition. But the blame for that should primarily go to Chargers G.M. A.J. Smith, who has missed a lot more than he’s hit in drafts over the last few years. It’s not a talented group.
Chargers owner Dean Spanos talked about patience with Norv Turner, but Manusky won’t get the same consideration.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
2007 NFL League Rankings:
Total offense – 25th
Passing – 31st
Rushing – 6th
2008 NFL League Rankings:
Total offense – 29th
Passing – 32nd
Rushing – 10th
Can’t fault Knapp for JaWalrus though, so we’ll see…
January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Charger defense under Manusky finished 16th. That isn’t bad compared to our pathetic defense.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Hardline,
Agreed. There are justifications for just about every type of speech, including objection to racist content.
I enjoy the different points of view expressed in here. Sometimes you shake your head, sometimes you learn something. I just found no redeeeming quality to the denigration of other people based on their ethnic background, and pointed it out. I don’t make the decision about what’s allowed and what’s not. Your next-to-last sentence would be better addressed to Corkran.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Charger defense under Manusky finished 16th. That isn’t bad compared to our pathetic defense.
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Yeah that’s also better than Allen’s 20th with the Broncos
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Broncos defense probably would have finished higher if they had a real QB. That offense had a lot of three and outs.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Albert, #278
Off topic somewhat but A.J. Smith is an ego driven maniac who would put his own stiff necked ego-centrism before the team. What he did regarding Vincent Jackson, with refusal to franchise tag Jackson several years ago, and refuse to pay him more than the rookie minimum was outrageous. I can’t believe a savvy business family would retain Smith. The Raiders should acquire Jackson.
Now there would be the plum of Reggie’s cap.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Palmer is a better qb than Schaub
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Id beg to differ, protecting the ball is vital to a QB’s performance, not just making a long sexy pass now and then… Although im behind carson, as of now i think schaub is a better QB
January 31st, 2012 at 7:35 pm
savvy business family such as the Spanos’
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
These coaches are all gonna fit in with a fast aggressive coach….this will work!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Teach,
That 2nd to last line was just an opinion not necessarily pointed at you.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
The 2013 1st round pick would have went to Cinci if we made the AFC Championship game…now, I’m not sure, but I think it was mentioned that if we make it this coming year also, then it will be upgraded to 1st!
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No, we had to make the Championship game this season in order for the 2013 2nd to become a 1st. What happens this year is irrelevant.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Be patient and trust that the same guys will be back BUT WITH DISCIPLINE!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Also, I am not sure Corky would welcome my thoughts, considering he kicked me off here, albeit most of my posts derived from hyperbole and puffery.
Oh well….
January 31st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
And mcclain will be a beast!! Heard it here first
January 31st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Broncos defense probably would have finished higher if they had a real QB. That offense had a lot of three and outs.
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And Rivers was averaging about 2 picks per game. Real tough for defenses when your offense is turning it over and over.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
288.Hardline Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Teach,
That 2nd to last line was just an opinion not necessarily pointed at you.
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Appreciate that, Hardline. We have a ways to go before this blog gets boring, anyway
January 31st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Ok, thanks JB!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
StevenTyler Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
These coaches are all gonna fit in with a fast aggressive coach….this will work!!!
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Nothing about Knapps offense or play calling abilities are “aggressive” “explosive”or “High tempo” as Allen says about the offense wants. It’s the ultimate contradiction and makes Allen look like an idiot.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The defense improves and offense becomes more consistant…thats 2 more wins right there
January 31st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Besides Manusky and Donatell…who else is out there?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Hardline Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Also, I am not sure Corky would welcome my thoughts, considering he kicked me off here, albeit most of my posts derived from hyperbole and puffery.
Oh well….
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Did he say ” Kick Rocks”?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
The players will dictate and execute the explosiveness….you saying d mac and d moore arent gonna make big plays??? Oh and have you heard of jacoby ford???? This is a good team!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Mike Singletary anyone?
January 31st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
This team will be explosive…if healthy
January 31st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
And i believe they will be healthy, these young guys wanna cash that first big check…d mac wants a payday and a monster year next year makes the RAIDERS contenders, and gets him PAID
January 31st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
We wont know anything until we see a couple of preseason games or if we get some similiar tweets from beat writers about cetain players standing out with talent such as D. Moore did during training camp.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
The idea being posed of trading Darren Mcfadden is poor, i dont know why i even read the damn articles..
Hes not yet 25, infact not till august.. Some rotten luck and some brittle feat.. I expect huge things from him this year, reckon we could do more to use his receiving skills also..
HOW MANY GAMES HE PLAY WITH CARSON?? HMmmmm scary potential.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Knapp play calling= run, run, pass, punt.
run, run, pass, punt.
run, run, pass, punt.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:53 pm
D mac isnt going anywhere . That guy is an absolute gamechanger. Therw is nobody as explosive as d mac period
January 31st, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I’m not too worried about Manusky’s performance in San Diego. First of all, their defense last year was a lot better than ours. Secondly, it was his first year down there after a pretty good run with the Niners’ D.
As far as the players petitioning to get rid of him; it’s the Chargers. They are soft, and they are crybabies. Pretty well known. He probably called them out on it and they ran to the owner. Any time a professional football team petitions to get rid of a coach you have to wonder about the players. That’s high school stuff.
We have our share of slackers on defense, for sure. Anybody that runs to management if they’re called on it here will no doubt be told to leave a forwarding address.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:57 pm
@307 music to my ears bro..
January 31st, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Run run run 1st down
Run deep pass touchdown
January 31st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Mike Singletary anyone?
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yeah, I’d be cool with that.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
StevenTyler Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:53 pm
D mac isnt going anywhere . That guy is an absolute gamechanger. Therw is nobody as explosive as d mac period
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When Healthy.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
232.Sullivan44 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Hardline,
I like Knapp for this system because of his personality. He’s not the type of OC that’s going to try to score 50 points in a defensive system, and clash with the offensive coaches. He’s a good team player, doesn’t have an ego. And on a defensive minded team, that’s what you need as OC. The last thing we need are fights on the sideline because we have an OC who’s trying to wag his junk around and throw deep every other down, giving our defense no rest. We need high percentage and ball control out of our offense, and about 20 points a game. We need an OC that will understand and work under a defensive system. Knapp is perfect.
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LMFAO! Sully,
Knapp and the DC in Atlanta got into it cause Knapps offense couldn’t stay on the field, Google the story. Pretty fking funny that its the opposite of what you think will happen here.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Black mamba.
How could anybody believe the raiders would be better without our best player? D mac makes a pro bowl and the RAIDERS wil be in the playoffs
January 31st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Besides Manusky and Donatell…who else is out there?
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Marshal
January 31st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Mike Singletary anyone?
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This is just flat out crazy and assinine that Allen does not pick up Singletary. Can you imagine Singletary flipping out and laying his balls on the table? Dude would be awesome. He could put flames in the asses of these defensive players. I been saying for years to pick this cat up.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Knapp play calling= run, run, pass, punt.
run, run, pass, punt.
run, run, pass, punt.
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Correct me if Im wrong,but wasn’t that mostly Justin Fargas making those runs and wasn’t the guy dropping back to pass some guy name Jamarcus??
January 31st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
StevenTyler Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Run run run 1st down
Run deep pass touchdown
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Knapp runs a run heavy offense. Run heavy teams never win super bowls especially in the last 10 years. It will not work. Actually if the raiders were not so reliant on the run with DMAC they would have done better this season.
A potent pass attack is the key, ie: Saints, Packers, Pats, Giants, ext ext.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
558Raidahs Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Albert Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Mike Singletary anyone?
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This is just flat out crazy and assinine that Allen does not pick up Singletary. Can you imagine Singletary flipping out and laying his balls on the table? Dude would be awesome. He could put flames in the asses of these defensive players. I been saying for years to pick this cat up.
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It sounds like DA’s looking for someone who’s been a DC before. Singletary hasn’t.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Skipper coming back, Manusky interviewed
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, January 31st, 2012 at 4:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Fox Sports is reporting that new Raiders coach Dennis Allen has decided to retain running backs coach Kelly Skipper and that he interviewed Greg Manusky for the defensive coordinator position held by Chuck Bresnahan last season.
Skipper has been with the Raiders the past five seasons. He coached tight ends in 2007-08, running backs the past three seasons.
Manusky, 44, has spent 11 seasons coaching in the NFL. He was the San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator last season, until he was dismissed by head coach Norv Turner at season’s end.
Before that, Manusky was the defensive coordinator for the 49ers from 2007-10 and coached linebackers for the Chargers (2002-06) and Washington Redskins (2001).
In summary, Greg Knapp has replaced Al Saunders as the offensive coordinator, Skipper is back as the running backs coach, defensive line coach Mike Waufle and special teams coach John Fassel signed with the St. Louis Rams and wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal went to the New York Jets.
Allen and the Raiders have not confirmed any coaching moves yet.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Hey Blog Goobers
Just got back to the crib with The Certified Platinum Posse (my all star hip hop production team) and getting ready to check out the Beeech Dawgettes do a little lingerie fashion show.
Gonna soak my nads in the hot tub while they prance around, gots to keep it real
Turns out they got high while we were out at the all you can eat Chinese buffet, then charged a ton of Victoria Secret crap on my Visa Black.
I’m sure we’ll have a loud orgy soon then start Season I of Men of a Certain Age on VHS.
What are you zeros doing? I’m sure whatever it is, you’re completely disappointed
January 31st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Knapp may be a run heavy OC, but that is the Raider way. The way Al would have liked it. While we may want palmer to pass pass pass, he aint the type to get off 40-50 passes a game. Run heavy and quick strike. We gonna be fine gents.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
314.stevenTyler Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Black mamba.
How could anybody believe the raiders would be better without our best player? D mac makes a pro bowl and the RAIDERS wil be in the playoffs
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Plenty of Mugs up in here have said it…. I cant fathom the reasoning, just give up on him?? not at 24..
January 31st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Just curious. What Head coach in the league hires who his fans want instead of who he wants?
January 31st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
He better be looking for some one who’s been a great DC before,…
January 31st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
My Dream Team
John Madden- Coach
Hue Jackson- O.C coordinator
Lane Kiffin -QB -Coach
Art Shell – Line Coach
Defense – Al Davis
January 31st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
“he better”? lol. or else what? Mark Davis is giving McKenzie at least 5 years. The only way he doesn’t is if McKenzie doesn’t have a winning season in the next 3. You know, like Al Davis didn’t 8 years straight.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
My Dream Team
SharkCatcher Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
John Madden- Coach
Hue Jackson- O.C coordinator
Lane Kiffin -QB -Coach
Art Shell – Line Coach
Defense – Al Davis
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Correction…..The 1970’s Al Davis
January 31st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Blue Balls And A Nutcracker Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Knapp may be a run heavy OC, but that is the Raider way. The way Al would have liked it. While we may want palmer to pass pass pass, he aint the type to get off 40-50 passes a game. Run heavy and quick strike. We gonna be fine gents.
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Once again RUN HEAVY teams do not win super bowls.
Example: When it’s the start of the 4th and your down by 14 teams with potent passing attacks are still in the game. Run heavy teams not so much
January 31st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Kanpp would pull that kind of crap back in 2007/2008.
4th down by 14 still run, run, run, punt
January 31st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Hey Blog Goobers
Just got back to the crib with The Certified Platinum Posse (my all star hip hop production team) and getting ready to check out the Beeech Dawgettes do a little lingerie fashion show.
Gonna soak my nads in the hot tub while they prance around, gots to keep it real
Turns out they got high while we were out at the all you can eat Chinese buffet, then charged a ton of Victoria Secret crap on my Visa Black.
I’m sure we’ll have a loud orgy soon then start Season I of Men of a Certain Age on VHS.
What are you zeros doing? I’m sure whatever it is, you’re completely disappointed
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Spock; “Captain, I m registering sensor readings of SWAG at zero.”
Kirk; “Yes, obviously a primitive culture… the term “posse” evaporated from the hip-hop lexicon sometime in the mid 80’s”
Spock; “Fascinating”
-”Star Trek; The Search for Swag”
January 31st, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Blue Balls And A Nutcracker Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Example: When it’s the start of the 4th and your down by 14
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See, ” that’s where ya done messsed up” We ain’t never..ever..forever..? ever? (Andre 3000 voice)Gonna be down 14!
January 31st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
I’m glad Skipper is stayin. Glad we got Knapp. Excited about Allen. Elated we got Reggie as a GM. Lookin forward to all the new hires. Grateful we got Amy and good to see Mark keepin the Raiders relavant. Good to see we’re gettin a DC. Happy to hear Palmer is coming back. Lookin forward to a healthy DMAC. Excited to watch Moore play. Glad the infield dirt will soon be gone. Good to see the Raiders stayin in Oakland where they belong.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
This is just flat out crazy and assinine that Allen does not pick up Singletary. Can you imagine Singletary flipping out and laying his balls on the table? Dude would be awesome. He could put flames in the asses of these defensive players. I been saying for years to pick this cat up.
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It would backfire tremendously. Dudes do not relate to screamers. See Todd Haley, for example. I remember the Raider-Seattle debacle on MNF during the Art Shell era, when Jackie Slater was screaming at Kevin Boothe…who just cruised right on by him without a word.
This is a bunch with extremely fragile confidence….they need tough love and assured, measured teaching. When you scream at people, it tends to either make them defensive, then tenative or angry and rebellious – and the team mutinied on Coach Bill Callahan when he tried that act. Need enthusiasm, measured patience and discipline, not out of control anger.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I met an ex player of Dennis Allens at dinner tonight. He said we will love him. Called him young and vibrant, and reminded him of Gruden.
Even said he is a Raider fan now.
It made me feel relieved to hear that kind of praise for our new coach.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Love the tone from some fans. “He’d better”. lmfao. Or else what? Think it’s just a coincidence that the year Al dies is the first year we sell out every game? For some time the Raiders’ needed the Davis faithful to stay in business. It’s the only consumer base they had. That’s no more.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Manusky was DC for the 49ers from 2007-2010. In 2007, they were 20th in the NFL in total defense. By 2009 they were the 4th ranked defense in the NFL, falling to 16th in 2010. In 2010 they were second in the NFL (to the Ravens) in run defense yards per carry, allowing 3.5 YPC, and 6th overall in total run defense.
If you are reading this blog you know that the Raiders’ defense during that period (and since) bears no resemblance.
Manusky and Allen running this defense is just fine with me.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
He better be looking for some one who’s been a great DC before,…
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Not many out there.
1 – Keith Butler coached the linebackers under the legendary Dick LeBeau, but hasnt been a DC, he may have learned a lot, but we do not exactly have 3-4 personnel or the picks to get the players to fit that.
2 – Ed Donatel, worked together w/Allen at Atlanta, but he had Patrick Willis, and a number of great players in that scheme…he coached the SF secondary, and that secondary was lights out until the Giants game and Victor Cruz torched them
3 – Dean Pees – got promoted to DC of the Ravens, before Allen could even get to him
4 – no one else – Manusky is decent…Chargers d’ed up fairly well against some teams…might even get us Takeo Spikes, a professional that would really, really help McClain become a professional.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Kawakami is a dildo that knows more about starching shirts and ironing socks than he does football.
Saunders > Knapp
January 31st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Manusky was DC for the 49ers from 2007-2010. In 2007, they were 20th in the NFL in total defense. By 2009 they were the 4th ranked defense in the NFL, falling to 16th in 2010. In 2010 they were second in the NFL (to the Ravens) in run defense yards per carry, allowing 3.5 YPC, and 6th overall in total run defense.
If you are reading this blog you know that the Raiders’ defense during that period (and since) bears no resemblance.
Manusky and Allen running this defense is just fine with me.
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co-sign; but remember Patrick Willis was their ILB, Justin Smith set the edge and played his butt off. Hoping they can get Shawnte Spencer (who will not be resigned) if Manusky does come…he was a decent big corner, until he got k’od by injuries.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Hey Ya’ll. Really gotta dig what the Raidahs been up to.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Great RB’s don’t win SB’s in this modern ERA.
Everyone says DMAC is our best player? You have to play, to be our best player.
I’d trade him in a second. For a couple proven players.
You need a Stud QB, great O-line, decent overall defense, and a front 4 that can sack the QB: see the 2011 NY Giants.
And yeah, the running game is overrated……
January 31st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
This is just flat out crazy and assinine that Allen does not pick up Singletary. Can you imagine Singletary flipping out and laying his balls on the table? Dude would be awesome. He could put flames in the asses of these defensive players. I been saying for years to pick this cat up.
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It would backfire tremendously. Dudes do not relate to screamers. See Todd Haley, for example. I remember the Raider-Seattle debacle on MNF during the Art Shell era, when Jackie Slater was screaming at Kevin Boothe…who just cruised right on by him without a word.
This is a bunch with extremely fragile confidence….they need tough love and assured, measured teaching. When you scream at people, it tends to either make them defensive, then tenative or angry and rebellious – and the team mutinied on Coach Bill Callahan when he tried that act. Need enthusiasm, measured patience and discipline, not out of control anger.
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Exactly. Occasionally, an NFL team will hire a flat-out dictator who never lets up, be it Mike Singletary, Les Steckel, Ray Perkins or what have you. You’ll get a season AT MOST (and usually a lot less) before the players stop listening and start saying, “Yeah, whatever, coach.”
Parcells, Belichick, Lombardi and others always had reps as dictators, but they really weren’t. Yes, they’re no-nonsense and would definitely get in your face if you started slacking, but they also cared about their guys. Look how Parcells and Lombardi had players who would follow them around from stop to stop.
In other words, Singletary (if he behaved like he did in SF) would have a very short period of effectiveness.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RaiderSam,
He did have Patrick Willis, and Justin Smith. Which means he had a front office that knows how to draft and acquire players and build a team. One of his main problems in San Diego (not just my opinion, but the current prevailing thought) is that AJ Smith did a terrble job drafting and/or acquiring defensive players to replace the aging stars that were leaving.
Here’s hoping that Reggie can work his magic and Allen and whomever he selects to be his DC can teach and motivate the guys that are already here.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Sooooo, what does everyone one think of the Raiders new HC? I think its a fine move we got a defensive minded fella for a HC.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Great post, RaiderDuck. I don’t understand the Singletary love. Guy lacks composure, and as you say, players tune that out after awhile.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Com’on peoples. Singletary will drop his drawers and put his nuts on the table. You got to respect a coach who can strike that kind of fear into the playahs.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Wow. This is just getting worse and worse.
Hue out. Replaced with the coordinator for the 24th ranked D. Knapp as OC? Manusky as DC?
This thing is turning into an absolute sh–show.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
@342
Have another mad jacks buddy, what load of crap..
A run first team, who hope too run the ball..haha so lets trade the only player who moves the chains..
January 31st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Wow. This is just getting worse and worse.
Hue out. Replaced with the coordinator for the 24th ranked D. Knapp as OC? Manusky as DC?
This thing is turning into an absolute sh–show.
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I know what your sayin. Doesn’t make any sense nor does it add up. I hope knapp has the wherewithall to build an offense around his players and not what he thinks it should be. Does him and allen have any history together? I wish we had Hue or Saunders for OC and Marshall for DC.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Mamba:
How does Dmac move the chain from The sidelines?
Look who’s won the SBlast 5 years:
Packers
NO
Pitt
Giants
Colts
What great RB was on those teams? Exactly…..watch some football and get educated…
January 31st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
#351
Same thing again this year. QB driven teams into the big one.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
415Raider Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Com’on peoples. Singletary will drop his drawers and put his nuts on the table. You got to respect a coach who can strike that kind of fear into the playahs.
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Cute stunt (in a mildly disgusting way), but I’d rather have a coach who knows the proper defensive schemes to go up against the offenses we’ll be facing. Nobody ever accused Singletary of being a good X’s and O’s guy.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Chris in NY:
Get over it Bro. We went 1-4 last 5. Hue is responsible for The WHOLE Team! He had control of the whole team afte r Houston and did nothing about the defense.
Why hasn’t he benn hired? Because he didn’t know how to be a Head Coach. The Miami game was the beginning of the end.
Most penalized team ever? C’mon bro, get with D.A,
January 31st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Mamba:
How does Dmac move the chain from The sidelines?
Look who’s won the SBlast 5 years:
Packers
NO
Pitt
Giants
Colts
What great RB was on those teams? Exactly…..watch some football and get educated…
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oh right watch some football.. nice one pwhahahaha
do we have
rodgers,
p.manning
e.manning
brees
big ben
no we have a trun over crazy QB,
so we kind of need our star players… dck
January 31st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Isn’t the point to have a good run game period?
We aren’t better off without DMC.
Let him get to finish his contract.
January 31st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Wow. This is just getting worse and worse.
Hue out. Replaced with the coordinator for the 24th ranked D. Knapp as OC? Manusky as DC?
This thing is turning into an absolute sh–show.
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And yet, this year’s team will probably win more games…
January 31st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RaiderSam the Cupcake
So obviously you’re at home on your mom’s lap, trying not try cry when you fart.
Star Trek nerds are the worst. Besides always hounding me for an autograph because I remind them of Jim Kirk (with a bigger dong), they always tattle on me when I pull their underwear over their heads.
Seriously though, how many Weird Al concerts have you been too — this year?
January 31st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
303Raider Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Mamba:
How does Dmac move the chain from The sidelines?
Look who’s won the SBlast 5 years:
Packers
NO
Pitt
Giants
Colts
What great RB was on those teams? Exactly…..watch some football and get educated…
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Great comment.
Yeah who was the last team to win a super bowl that had a featured star RB? Was it Denver with Terrel Davis?
January 31st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Manusky was DC for the 49ers from 2007-2010. In 2007, they were 20th in the NFL in total defense. By 2009 they were the 4th ranked defense in the NFL, falling to 16th in 2010. In 2010 they were second in the NFL (to the Ravens) in run defense yards per carry, allowing 3.5 YPC, and 6th overall in total run defense.
If you are reading this blog you know that the Raiders’ defense during that period (and since) bears no resemblance.
Manusky and Allen running this defense is just fine with me.
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I wouldn’t be mad if he hired Manusky, heck I will be fine with whoever he hires for DC, as long as its not Bres.
The Knapp hire I think caught alot of us off guard, it was like a sucker punch to the gut.
Not sure why these beat writers don’t understand why were upset, Its not just because they let Saunders go, its who they brought in to replace him. I believe most of us would of ben fine with almost anybody not named Knapp. Atleast we wouldn’t be freaking out like some of us are.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Knapp = fundamentals, something that Dennis Allen spoke about yesterday.
Not exactly the fast in your face offense that he talked about either.
I wonder if one of Reggie’s interview questions to D.A. was. “If you could bring in your own OC who would it be and why?”
January 31st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
Can we get Tjs’ take on:
♦ the new HC
♦ the new OC
♦ the defensive situation
♦ if Dalls cans Ryan, do we go after him
♦ if the Jets dump Sanchez, do we get him as a 2 or 3
♦ does the league cut back on the flags they throw against the Raiders now that they appear to be ‘conforming’
♦ now that the Raiders are staying in Oakland and the A’s are movin out, do we modernize the O or go hog wild for the new stadium
♦ what is up with that lame assed pro bowl game
January 31st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
How is Dmac our best player when he is NOT aviliable?
Very few RB’s have 5-6 years of solid production. So far Dmac has had 1.
If Reggie feels we can get some good players, a CB, DL, or an upgrade on the O-Line, then so be it. I have his jersey and love watching him play.
Last great RB to win the SB was Davis and before him Emmit Smith.
Sorry Bro, he is expendable and can get us some picks and maybe some proven players, get over it.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RaiderSam the Cupcake
So obviously you’re at home on your mom’s lap, trying not try cry when you fart.
Star Trek nerds are the worst. Besides always hounding me for an autograph because I remind them of Jim Kirk (with a bigger dong), they always tattle on me when I pull their underwear over their heads.
Seriously though, how many Weird Al concerts have you been too — this year?
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Capt Kirk; “What was that..nerd? What is that, some kind of insult”
Spock; -”Yes. Most peculiar. They used that term to denigrate someone of higher intelligence.” It appears that this form of life is attempting some kind of insult…”bigger dong”? “tattle” Nerd references from the 80’s again?
Capt. Kirk–”It was how they entertained themselves in that decade.”
Spock; -Perhaps we should send a landing party?
Capt. Kirk-No, observe the non-interference directive. Make him make a complete ass of himself!”
Star Trek; “The Search for Swag”
Star Trek; “The Search for Swag”
January 31st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
RaidO Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
303Raider Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Mamba:
How does Dmac move the chain from The sidelines?
Look who’s won the SBlast 5 years:
Packers
NO
Pitt
Giants
Colts
What great RB was on those teams? Exactly…..watch some football and get educated…
___________________________________________________
Great comment.
Yeah who was the last team to win a super bowl that had a featured star RB? Was it Denver with Terrel Davis?
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Marcus Allen and the Raiders.
Raiders 38
Redkins 9
January 31st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Great comment.
Yeah who was the last team to win a super bowl that had a featured star RB? Was it Denver with Terrel Davis?
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Steelers, with fast willy parker. They won with a good run game and defense
January 31st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
We’re talking great RB’s ,Willie P was good, not great.
We can fill Dmacs production easily. What did he have 600 yards last year, c’mon!!
January 31st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RaiderSam,
He did have Patrick Willis, and Justin Smith. Which means he had a front office that knows how to draft and acquire players and build a team. One of his main problems in San Diego (not just my opinion, but the current prevailing thought) is that AJ Smith did a terrble job drafting and/or acquiring defensive players to replace the aging stars that were leaving.
Here’s hoping that Reggie can work his magic and Allen and whomever he selects to be his DC can teach and motivate the guys that are already here.
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I agree. AJ Smith did do a terrible job. Much of the success was attributed to John Butler, who drafted L.T. and Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers, then Buddy Nix, who drafted Shawne Merriman, Luis Castillo and Antonio Cromartie.
Im hoping Reggie can work that magic. I’m just concerned will Manusky be able to adjust his defensive match-ups? Can Knapp play call and make adjustments with a conservative approach when things aren’t working? Hoping that Knapp is less predictable and a little more creative in his approach this time around.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Anybody else mildly wondering if this will be the second straight late night where a coordinator’s hired?
January 31st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
http://2011playoftheyear.nfl.com/?module=HP11_content_stream
January 31st, 2012 at 9:13 pm
English, SamBorg! Remember, you really should try to assimilate once you finish Junior High.
Although I know human life forms frighten you, someday you just might get to touch a female member of the species. Actually, that probably won’t happen.
Holla!
I remember these Star Trek goobers that used to hang out at the library eating Whatchamacallits and pretending garden lizards were their enemies.
Man, they were so easy to push in the fountain
Sounds pretty familiar, huh SamBorg?
I KNOW IT DO, HOLLA
January 31st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
600 thru what 6 games, leading the league, unfortunate he got hurt again..yes again…
So we throw away our run game completly an put it all in carsons arm, wow great idea 303, maybe coach could hire you to the staff. whos filling the production cuz ?? Bush ?? Nuga pleeeeease…
January 31st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Teach, don’t bother. Basically these guys are going to bittch and whine until they get coordinators that will run Al’s system. That’s all this is. They’re fearing change. And now that the change is inevitable, they’re playing that “anybody but those in charge” game. They get who they want, they’ll start bashing them and want them out. They just want to keep Al’s system alive, and the only way to do that is with a constant turnover of coaches and staff.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:16 pm
These guys would rather lose 14 games a year Al’s way than win 14 games a year someone else’s way. They’re a strange bunch.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
You can pick up good RB’s either in FA or let’s see what Taiwan Jones can do.
We have too many holes to Franchise Bush and pay a RB who barely suits up for half the games.
I’m not saying put everything in Palmer. I’m saying since Dmac is brittle, he can be replaced with a cheaper alternative that can give us similar production.
He does Minnesota look by paying All that money to AP, and now he will never be the same….
January 31st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Brahs the Beeech Dawgettes just finished the lingerie fashion show and I just set up my DJ booth for some sweet orgy jams!
I’ll try to keep blogging while I 69 a shorty, but you guys should tee off on SamBorg for fun while I’m busy.
My newest minion-in-training is an easy target, but it’s also fun watching him spazz out and revert to Clingon.
TWIZZLE MY NIZZLE, MO WIZZLE?
January 31st, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Watching the replay of The Pats vs Rams SB.
That was our SB to win…..
January 31st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Knapp has nine years of experience as an NFL coordinator. Each of the past three offenses he’s led have ranked in the bottom-10 of the league,
January 31st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
It’s odd that some guys that frear change were happy & excited about the hiring of R McKenzie & D Allen.
Very odd!
Is it possible that they just don’t agree with the Knapp hiring, and would rather have a different OC?
Is that possible?
January 31st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
you dont know that about AP.
But yes i agree i like the look of taiwain jones, hardly going to carry the load however.
An i agree we could pick up some good players with a trade, but i dont want it to go down with mcfadden, i guess we disagree, no biggie, thats what we here for…
January 31st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
# Blue Balls and a nutcracker Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Knapp may be a run heavy OC, but that is the Raider way. The way Al would have liked it. While we may want palmer to pass pass pass, he aint the type to get off 40-50 passes a game. Run heavy and quick strike. We gonna be fine gents.
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Al would have liked that? Old man Al stripped Knapp of his play calling duties the first time around!
I would have much rather have seen Packer QB coach Tom Clements be hired as the OC, but once again, this is not about the best candidates for the job, this is about the buddy network of coaches.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Everyone is crying about Knapp.. get over it!
Dude was stripped of play calling once they fired Kiffen in 2008.
His only real season was 2007 and Mike Mart, Norv turner, and Mike Shanihan would have sucked with the offense in 2007 with Purple Drank Russel!
He will do fine with Carson and The Gang!!
January 31st, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Knapp has nine years of experience as an NFL coordinator. Each of the past three offenses he’s led have ranked in the bottom-10 of the league.
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That would be our two JaPaycheck years, and one year in Seattle with JULIUS JONES as the top offensive threat.
Not a valid basis to make an assessment.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
You’re right, I don’t know that. I’m just goin by stats and AP gets a lot of carries and it’s rare after Major injuries to have good production.
Again, I love Dmac, wear his jersey every Sunday but the only reason I say this is cuz he doesn’t suit up on Sundays and it is impossible to help your team when you are there only half the time…
January 31st, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Knapp better not be too conservative and he better be creative when need be and show defenses plenty of different formations
If not….I hope Palmer audibles out plenty of times our Knapp crappy conservative predictable play calling which he is known for.
Knapp better know how to use ALL the weapons on offense on a consistent basis, or he won’t make it past a year here.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
What about ATL & Seattle? Did they have Kiffin there too?
His teams were below avg in the passing game, but they did well rushing the ball.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Knapp can be considered as bad retread hire. LOL
He won’t be as bad as the Chuck B hire though! haha
January 31st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I get a kick out of the very few minority of Knapp lovers in here.
Your hoping he turns out okay….hope is good…just don’t expect too much from him. Expect the offense to regress.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
LAKER FANS STAND UP N REPRESENT
Yo yo yo popped the Lake Show on the JumboPlasma right before the orgy commenced, checking out my boy Kapono lay it down island style.
My reggae band played a few UCLA frat parties back in the day and JK would get super high on dirt weed and get rejected by Deltas.
Of course, the Beeech Dawg always had the swoop on the youngster.
That’s just how we roll in the 714, word
January 31st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Knapp may be a run heavy OC, but that is the Raider way. The way Al would have liked it. While we may want palmer to pass pass pass, he aint the type to get off 40-50 passes a game. Run heavy and quick strike. We gonna be fine gents.
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Al would have liked that? Old man Al stripped Knapp of his play calling duties the first time around! LOL
I would have much rather have seen Packer QB coach Tom Clements be hired as the OC, but once again, this is not about the best candidates for the job, this is about the buddy network of coaches. Sheesh
January 31st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
We can do worse than Chucky.
What about Tom Wash aka Mr. B&B?
January 31st, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Can you imagine Chucky as DC, Tom Wash as OC, and Rob Ryan as HC?
January 31st, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Cable would be the GM!
January 31st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Knapp’s gotta show me on the field…but I’m OK with the hire at this point. He’s been around long enough, and he’ll have a lot of tools at his disposal here. In Reggie and D.A. I trust…they know the dude well enough.
Hopefully, Knapp and Palmer bond in a hurry…and whatever changes happen to the playbook/terminology are easy to transition to. It won’t take long to see how Knapp’s going to run the Offense…here’s to also hoping he knows how to shape his Offense around players’ talents, and not the other way around.
The “new” NFL has QBs’ stats going through the roof, and the numbers being put on scoreboards are staggering…the Raiders need to put up 24-ish points per game, no matter what the D looks like. The realistic ability to occasionally put 30+ points per game on the board is a must.
Unlike JaMarcus, Knapps’ QB this time around CAN throw a 5-yard dink, as well as a 45-yard bullet. With DMC healthy and/or MBush29 getting 70% of the load (because DMC’s been traded)…this is a team that can average 24-points per game.
Now…for the D to keep teams under 20-points on average!
January 31st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
The 2013 1st round pick would have went to Cinci if we made the AFC Championship game…now, I’m not sure, but I think it was mentioned that if we make it this coming year also, then it will be upgraded to 1st!
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Trust me. We will maintain our 1st rounder in 2013 and it will probably be top 15 pick!
January 31st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
D.A. & McK has a good ring to it. Sounds like an action duo.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Knapp’s gotta show me on the field…but I’m OK with the hire at this point. He’s been around long enough, and he’ll have a lot of tools at his disposal here. In Reggie and D.A. I trust…they know the dude well enough.
Hopefully, Knapp and Palmer bond in a hurry…and whatever changes happen to the playbook/terminology are easy to transition to. It won’t take long to see how Knapp’s going to run the Offense…here’s to also hoping he knows how to shape his Offense around players’ talents, and not the other way around.
The “new” NFL has QBs’ stats going through the roof, and the numbers being put on scoreboards are staggering…the Raiders need to put up 24-ish points per game, no matter what the D looks like. The realistic ability to occasionally put 30+ points per game on the board is a must.
Unlike JaMarcus, Knapps’ QB this time around CAN throw a 5-yard dink, as well as a 45-yard bullet. With DMC healthy and/or MBush29 getting 70% of the load (because DMC’s been traded)…this is a team that can average 24-points per game.
Now…for the D to keep teams under 20-points on average!
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Another key for this offense to not regress will be how good our OLine coaches are. By all rights we should keep Wylie and Wiz, but I doubt they stay, because this is the good old buddy network of coaches, when it comes to change.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Another key for this offense to not regress will be how good our OLine coaches are. By all rights we should keep Wylie and Wiz, but I doubt they stay, because this is the good old buddy network of coaches, when it comes to change.
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On the other hand, they already kept Kelly Skipper, so they can’t be TOTALLY against some of Hue’s coaches sticking around…
January 31st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Maybe Knapp keeps Saunders as QB coach? CPalmer would get to give his opinion on that, I’d think. I’m of the mind it would be a good thing to keep Saunders right where he is. Saunders gets a lot of respect around the League…and I hope he, Palmer and Knapp can make a good trio.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Maybe Knapp keeps Saunders as QB coach? CPalmer would get to give his opinion on that, I’d think. I’m of the mind it would be a good thing to keep Saunders right where he is. Saunders gets a lot of respect around the League…and I hope he, Palmer and Knapp can make a good trio.
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Alternatively, Saunders was a WR coach in both KC and St. Louis. Bottom line is if Allen and Knapp want him around, they’ll find a spot for him.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Okay, so you rip on the fans who want Saunders to stay, by suggesting it’s a bizarre attachment to Al Davis and the way things USED TO BE,by criticizing the fans not fully embracing the same guy WHO WAS ALREADY HERE UNDER AL’S REGIME….WHO AL DAVIS HIRED IN THE FIRST FREAKING PLACE.
Makes so much sense.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
395.DKnight007 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
The 2013 1st round pick would have went to Cinci if we made the AFC Championship game…now, I’m not sure, but I think it was mentioned that if we make it this coming year also, then it will be upgraded to 1st!
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Trust me. We will maintain our 1st rounder in 2013 and it will probably be top 15 pick!
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Yeah, so you’re absolutely certain we are gonna suck this year.
You guys are really a bunch of buzzkills.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
I hope Allen doesn’t hire this clown as the next Raiders DC:
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/2639483/84601_Chargers_Camp_Football.jpg
January 31st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Think about this: Knapp has several guys who can both run AND catch…a healthy DMAC, Reese, maybe Taiwan Jones (still don’t really know what he can do since he hasn’t played enough).
I think most OCs would be drooling over keeping the other teams wondering….deep pass to speedsters Moore or DHB or Ford…or play action to DMAc or Jones (or some other back as yet unknown) or pass to DMac or Reece,slipping out of the backfield or split out…and Carson Palmer’s ability to throw an out or a deep ball.
We’ll find out if Knapp has talent because we DO have talent on the offensive side of things. Mixing things up but getting those guys to operate with military discipline is key.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
You’re right, Johnny — There is an awful lot of whining going on in here. It’s not like the team’s going to be completely gutted.
We have talent, and I believe ReggieMcK is going to bring in some more good ones via trade/s. There is no reason — NO REASON — for our Offense to go backwards from where it was last season…just forward, with a more stable environment being a major factor.
DMC or MBush29?? Doesn’t matter in one sense…we still need another RB, even with Taiwan in the wings. He hasn’t proven much yet.
Franchise MBush29…trade DMC for picks, before he stubs a toe.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Hey Blog Goobers
Just got back to the crib with The Certified Platinum Posse (my all star hip hop production team) and getting ready to check out the Beeech Dawgettes do a little lingerie fashion show.
Gonna soak my nads in the hot tub while they prance around, gots to keep it real
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The only thing real is that his “production team” is his mom and dad.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Even if Carson Palmer were to get rid of his ints and develop into a pinpoint passer like Aaron Rodgers, we have to remember he’s not mobile and he’s got a bad knee.
The OC will want to have a variety of plays to keep the defense from always rushing Palmer and he’ll also probably insert more quick hitting passes.
The problem with T. Jones is that when he’s in there the D can eliminate some plays because Taiwan can’t block. I think he’s as bad as Bush, which is really bad.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
You guys can spin it any way you want, but this Knapp hire is as if Al Davis came back and did this himself.
This hire couldn’t be more Al if it rolled up in a motorized golf cart with a yamika and a pompadour hair do attached to it.
It’s mind boggling to me.
“We are moving forward”
“It’s a new era in Raider football”.
“In celebration of this new era, my first act as new Head Coach is to hire the same guy Al Davis hired a few years back under the old Raider regime, and who didn’t accomplish anything”.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
On the other hand, they already kept Kelly Skipper, so they can’t be TOTALLY against some of Hue’s coaches sticking around…
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Kelly Skipper was brought in here by Cable and Kiffin.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Bring back Skip Peete
January 31st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
I don’t necessarily mind this Knapp hire.
I think he may have been a bit hamstrung by Jamarcus etc. but I just find it disingenuous all this talk from Allen about this “New Era in Raider football’ stuff when his frist move os to hire Greg Knapp.
That being said I STILL THINK there is alot to be excited about.
Those of you who felt like you missed Al Davis and the old Raider ways of Al will be gone can at least feel better now.
The “old Al” is still very alive and well in the person of Dennis Allen.
If Dennis gives us the “good Al”, then we’ll be fine, but Al Davis hasn’t gone anywhere.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:33 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
You’re right, Johnny — There is an awful lot of whining going on in here. It’s not like the team’s going to be completely gutted.
We have talent, and I believe ReggieMcK is going to bring in some more good ones via trade/s. There is no reason — NO REASON — for our Offense to go backwards from where it was last season…just forward, with a more stable environment being a major factor.
DMC or MBush29?? Doesn’t matter in one sense…we still need another RB, even with Taiwan in the wings. He hasn’t proven much yet.
Franchise MBush29…trade DMC for picks, before he stubs a toe.
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If we wanna keep Bush it don’t make sense to Tag him, just give the guy a fair contract.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
# Cranberry Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
Can we get Tjs’ take on:
♦ the new HC
♦ the new OC
♦ the defensive situation
♦ if Dalls cans Ryan, do we go after him
♦ if the Jets dump Sanchez, do we get him as a 2 or 3
♦ does the league cut back on the flags they throw against the Raiders now that they appear to be ‘conforming’
♦ now that the Raiders are staying in Oakland and the A’s are movin out, do we modernize the O or go hog wild for the new stadium
♦ what is up with that lame assed pro bowl game
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What happened to that old crazy guy Priest??
January 31st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Might have to Franchise him to negotiate the long-term contract…as long as he knows he’s being treated fairly, I think he’d gladly accept the tag.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
It’s been fun, but I’m out.
Raiders…Playoff bound in 2012-13!
January 31st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Will Dennis AL-len reach out to John Shoop too?
How about Gunther Cunningham for new DC?
January 31st, 2012 at 10:51 pm
415.HayesDaze37 Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
It’s been fun, but I’m out.
Raiders…Playoff bound in 2012-13!
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I agree.
With Al Davis alive and well to continue running HIS team, we’ll be able to see his efforts rewarded this coming year.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Have to say the rookies and retread routine not inspiring. I think we all expected upgrades when Allen mentioned “Chasing Championships every year” but we’ll have to see how it plays out.
Hope springs…
January 31st, 2012 at 11:11 pm
There may have not been a SB winning team to win a SB with an elite RB, but that last one to win B2B was Denver.
With an elite RB and a franchise QB.
We have an elite RB and a franchise QB… back to back SB’s sounds good to me!
We haven’t even seen the two on the field together yet and people want to trade one of them? Kinda stoopid…
January 31st, 2012 at 11:11 pm
413. Got schooled hard and disappeared. Suddenly we start getting these free priest posts from a brand new blogger. Interesting…oh wait no, what the opposite of interesting, Thats what I meant…
January 31st, 2012 at 11:13 pm
419. Pretty sure Al Saunders Rams had and elite QB and an elite RB in Warner and Marshall Faulk
January 31st, 2012 at 11:13 pm
IF we ever get DMC back.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:15 pm
419.Gdog Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 11:11 pm
There may have not been a SB winning team to win a SB with an elite RB, but that last one to win B2B was Denver.
With an elite RB and a franchise QB.
We have an elite RB and a franchise QB… back to back SB’s sounds good to me!
We haven’t even seen the two on the field together yet and people want to trade one of them? Kinda stoopid…
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Great point.
So simple it makes too much sense.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
So… Roman Harper
January 31st, 2012 at 11:19 pm
419 I have to agree with you on that point; but if someone wants to give us two 1sts for either Palmer or McFadden, Raiders have got to jump on it.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:19 pm
V. Jax talk. People forget his 2 DUIs not long ago and the diva hold out.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:20 pm
425. Would hate that but whoa, 2 1st rounders for either? Have to.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Nobody would give us two first rounders for BOTH.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Greattttt…let’s just get a bunch of coaches that failed recently and put them on our staff and get rid of the ones that were doing well.
I definitely thing we should change our Offensive Line coaches and our Offensive Coordinator. I mean it’s not like our line did well and allowed the fewest sacks in god knows how long…or actually opened up big running lanes despite being a bunch of misfits.
And it’s not like our offense somehow kept producing despite multiple injuries to all our key starters at QB, WR and RB. Probably should just change them all and bring in guys who were middle-of-the-pack at best for an upgrade.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:31 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 11:13 pm
419. Pretty sure Al Saunders Rams had and elite QB and an elite RB in Warner and Marshall Faulk
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Do you mean that same Al Saunders who we just dumped for Knapp?
The same Knapp that couldn’t get the ball moving in his last couple OC gigs?
January 31st, 2012 at 11:31 pm
And… we want to hire the same DC who was just fired from the Chargers because the defense was SOOOO bad that it regressed horribly despite major talent?
January 31st, 2012 at 11:33 pm
The Chargers defense fell off after replacing Ron Rivera with Manusky while the 49ers defense surged to elite status after moving on from Manusky.
According to the Union-Trib San Diego, “many in the organization, including several players, had been convinced for some time that hiring Manusky was a mistake.”
HOW ARE WE CHOSING THESE PEOPLE TO BE ON OUR STAFF????? JUST OLD BUDDIES?
January 31st, 2012 at 11:34 pm
429,
C’mon. It’s a “New era in Raider football”.
“In the spirit of taking a fresh new approach and mindset for the new Raiders, I give you an offensive coordinator who was already here, and failed miserably”.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Knapp has nine years of experience as an NFL coordinator. Each of the past three offenses he’s led have ranked in the bottom-10 of the league.
I really don’t like this new era. At least we had some hope when Al brought in totally new unknown guys that we might have found some diamond in the rough. Here we already know we are getting failures with plenty of history to document it.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Whomever is hired as DC will receive a close and scrutinizing eyes. I dont believe for one second same new DC will be the cock of the walk, totally independent. Reggie would have to be a fool to allow that.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:38 pm
If I were Reggie and Mark, I would never, ever, ever allow free rein to the co-ordinators. That would be suicide..
January 31st, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Gregg Knapp has a plan.
It’s just that it’s never worked.
How can they expect “the Nation” to be excited about that?
January 31st, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Belichik, of course has mostly free rein. But he has proven himself and needs little scrutiny of the higher-ups.
I own a transportation company. Do you think I would ever hire a new drive and send him out alone, without DMV record check, criminal check, and driver’s test, then out with a veteran driver for a week?
If I put a new hire without taking the proper safeguards out on the street and negligently caused injury or death to another driver, and knew, or should have known about that driver’s bad driving propensities, I would be charged, same as the driver.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:49 pm
yeah well Johnny, I am just saying at least we have something to fall back on – maybe. of many here will say now we are imposing AL’s standards on the OC and DC. maybe so, but you can believe that Harbaugh is receiving strict scrutiny from the owner’s of the 49′ers who are telling him to beef up his offense.
That is why the 49′ers lost to NY, because their offense went to sleep and their defense suffered a let down.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:49 pm
How do we know Allen didn’t offer OC job to Saunders and he turned it down?
How do we know Saunders wants play calling duties again?
He hasn’t called plays for several years… maybe he doesn’t want to.
Maybe this late in the game(Because the GM took to f’n long to make a hire – just like I said he would – all the good coordinators are locked up. Unless you want Todd Haley?) Knapp was the only EXPERIENCED OC left out there that would take the job.
Now Allen is in the same boat as Jackson last year for DC. Jackson requested to interview a Ravens assistant and was denied. He had to settle for Chucky B.
Allen requested to interview Broncos LB coach for DC and was denied. So now he is stuck looking at Manusky or whatever his loser name is.
Every year its the same sh!t in Oakland. They wait too damn long to hire a coach and he is behind the 8 ball when it comes to assembling his staff.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:49 pm
438. What? You don’t just hire guys just based on your gut?
January 31st, 2012 at 11:51 pm
I can hear AL-len now:
“I’d like to inroduce a coach who has had a lot of suc….err, well he’s been here before and he, uhhhh, well, he’s coached in this league a long time, and he has a system that uhhhh, well…here’s Gregg Knapp”.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:53 pm
plus that one fool fumbled the ball and let it hit his knee. talk about a bone-head decision by Harbaugh to allow #10 to remain in the game when he didn’t have the fortitude to jump on the first kick that eventually hit him in the knee.
DuHHHH, c’mon Harbaugh you can’t suffer rookie mistakes like that; #10 should have been benched immediately.
There is not time for “touchy/feely, fuzzy head logic in this game. It’s a business. Harbaugh should have put his best WR or tight end to field next the punt which #10 fumbled away.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:54 pm
442. The GOOD news is we finally have a QB capable of audubling every play if he needs to. Knapp sack is known for running running running.
Allen’s presser hes said Raider O wants to pass more…okay…
January 31st, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RaiderWeaponX 441,
Hire a guy based on my gut ???? That is a quick way to lose everything.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:59 pm
I don’t hire drivers with too much experience, because too long in the tooth leads to trouble. I do have drivers who have worked for me for many years but I broke them in as rookies. Ff the guy has clean records, I personally break him in the first day based on his potential. I can tell in the first 60 seconds if he is cut out for the job.
BTW, I own a home and office moving business which is much like a professional football team: you have to maintain a good mix of old veterans, journeymen, and rookies to be successful; and always, the bigger, stronger, faster….the better.
February 1st, 2012 at 12:09 am
Starving Students hirews guys right off the street, with no inquiry whatsoever. That is why they had to pay a $3M fine to a class of shippers who fell victim to Starving Students bad procedure. They were also order to shut down for a year by the CPUC, our licensing authority.
We moved a lady previously moved by Starving Students. She claimed they did an okay job, but nothing superlative. Several hours after the move was completed there was a knock at her door; it was a crew member from her move, helper, who claimed he left his sunglasses in her new house. She let him in to find them and he forcibly raped her. He had been released 3 weeks before her move, early from state prison on good behavior in northern CA, after spending 5 yrs in the joint for forcible rape.
That rape cost Starving Students big time. That’s what you get when you hire someone through gut feelings, or worse yet, no inquiry at all.
February 1st, 2012 at 12:18 am
447. Was riffing on our new GM always talking about going with his gut.
I hope he doesn’t re-sign Darrell Russell…
February 1st, 2012 at 12:25 am
lol….hmmmm……he’ll have to be looking 6ft under.
February 1st, 2012 at 1:36 am
The only sign I need (except for the fact that his last 3 stints as OC were bottom 10 in the league).
Remember McFadden? Under Knapp EVERYONE in here was saying “BUST!”. It was “Mc trip over showlaces”. I don’t know if you have a very short memory but I remember that. His first two years as Offensive Coordinator we played FARGAS because McFadden didn’t fit in his system. He had one of the top 5 RBs in the league and couldn’t work out how to use him because he’s not bright. He’s not a person that will use the players to the best of their abilities. He’ll try to fit people in where they don’t fit…and then keep doing that. Thus Fargas was a better RB in his system than McFadden.
Then “magically” year 3 when we got rid of Knapp and Hue came “suddenly” McFadden was a BEAST. Same number of injuries…but suddenly productive when on the field.
Who the hell knows if we had a real O-Coordinator if Jamarcus might have turned out better. I mean when you’re in a system that doesn’t fit you and you’re failing PLUS you have your close family dying…I’m not saying for sure. But, if you’re winning and enjoying the game you suddenly will put in more effort. I kind of doubt it, but we never will know.
If we kept Knapp McFadden would be cut by now and a waste of a first round pick until someone else got him that knew how to use him. He was literally as bad as Jamarcus those first couple years.
February 1st, 2012 at 1:37 am
…and now the same on defense…
The Raiders reportedly interviewed ex-Chargers DC Greg Manusky for their defensive coordinator vacancy.
“The Chargers defense fell off after replacing Ron Rivera with Manusky while the 49ers defense surged to elite status after moving on from Manusky. According to the Union-Trib San Diego, “many in the organization, including several players, had been convinced for some time that hiring Manusky was a mistake.”
February 1st, 2012 at 1:48 am
And…Todd Bowles (A HC candidate for many teams) was just hired as the DBs coach for the Eagles.
I feel like we’re taking a step backwards here guys…maybe 2 or 3 steps backwards.
February 1st, 2012 at 2:21 am
wasbanned #440,
Wasbanned, you are 100% correct. It’s ridiculous. Reggie and Allen aren’t getting any kudos for their belated hiring.
Of course Big Reggie, if questioned, would give you hiw look of smug superiority. I doubt Allen has a clue.
C’mon man, in order to win championships you have to do something the NFL has never seen. That takes younger, up-and-coming coaches who have a vision and know how to install it. If you sew your garden with the same ole seeds, forget to fertilize and water it, what will you get? nothing. You can’t keep running over the same old ground and think anything will change. It’s just common sense.
Looking at Reggie and Mark, seems as though they need another bong hit. And Allen, dude seems lost in space. We don’t need too-long-in-the-tooth, has-been failures. We need people who can win.
February 1st, 2012 at 3:19 am
STATS for Knapp:
OC Atlanta Falcons:
2004 #30 Passing Offense
2005 #27 Passing Offense
2006 #32 Passing Offense (DEAD LAST!)
OC Oakland Raiders
2007 #31 Passing Offense
2008 #32 Passing Offense (DEAD LAST!)
OC Seattle Seahawks
2009 #16 Passing Offense
Look at those stats.
Here’s for Points Scored:
OC Atlanta Falcons
2004 #16 Scoring Offense
2005 #14 Scoring Offense
2006#25 Scoring Offense
OC Oakland Raiders
2007 #23 Scoring
2008 #29 Scoring
OC Seattle Seahawks
2009 #25 Scoring
Now, the HIGHEST he EVER made as an OC was #14 in Scoring. The BEST he’s been is middle-of-the pack. And, for 2 years he was WORST out of ANY Offense in the NFL.
How do you hire this guy?
February 1st, 2012 at 3:22 am
I don’t care about “something we’ve never seen”. I care about “successful”. People who have consistently improved the ranking of the units they are in charge of.
In Knapp’s last position (QB Coach for Houston), they were #1 passing Offense in 2009 before he took the QB Coach position.
in 2010 they dropped 3 spaces to #4. In 2011 they dropped to #18. So, in the two years he was QB Coach there they dropped from #1 in the NFL to #18.
So…why are we hiring this guy?
February 1st, 2012 at 3:23 am
wasbanned Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 11:49 pm
How do we know Allen didn’t offer OC job to Saunders and he turned it down?
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We know because Saunders stayed around. He was the only coach staying around. And because if you listen to Allen’s interview you know that Saunders wasn’t “his guy”.
February 1st, 2012 at 3:55 am
it’s a mystery to me why they would hire knapp…..seems obvious according to the stats.
February 1st, 2012 at 3:59 am
It’s not a point of contention, but I want something that has never been seen in the NFL, to ensure dynasty. Al Davis had it a long, long time ago, but he burned out and couldn’t resurrect it. Bill Walsh had it wheh he developed the west coast offense.
You have sold me on your point of view Raiderzmaverick.
February 1st, 2012 at 4:24 am
Just not impressed with these coaches.Looks like we’ve gone for the cheapest hire.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:20 am
This is some baffling shhhhhh to say the least.You already had the offense in place with John Saunders and the guy goes backwards and gets this used tire…why?
February 1st, 2012 at 5:20 am
If you read what I said above, I think I’m pretty clear.
But another point. This is a PASSING LEAGUE now. Proof?
Out of the top 10 Passing teams only 2 are not in the playoffs.
Out of the top 10 Rushing teams 6 out of 10 are NOT in the playoffs.
So, 8 out of the top 10 passing teams are in the playoffs.
4 out of 10 of the top rushing teams are in the playoffs.
I rest my case. Knapp was a STUPID STUPID hire.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:28 am
Al Saunders turned 65 today, for crying out loud.
We don’t need old guys like that around. I want an OC on the field, not one that needs to sit down.
How long would Saunders be around? Not like he would have worked 3-4 years and served out Allen’s contract.
We would have been looking at OC’s in a year or so if we kept Saunders, so we made the decision to start fresh today.
I like the move. I hope we go back to the ZBS, bring in a brute FB that all ZBS teams have, and score more in the red zone and this offense will IMPROVE from last year.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:36 am
Are Hue Jackson and Al Saunders even going to be employed in 2012?
February 1st, 2012 at 5:38 am
461.raiderzmaverick Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:20 am
If you read what I said above, I think I’m pretty clear.
But another point. This is a PASSING LEAGUE now. Proof?
Out of the top 10 Passing teams only 2 are not in the playoffs.
Out of the top 10 Rushing teams 6 out of 10 are NOT in the playoffs.
So, 8 out of the top 10 passing teams are in the playoffs.
4 out of 10 of the top rushing teams are in the playoffs.
I rest my case. Knapp was a STUPID STUPID hire.
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Knapp had JaMarcus Russell for a QB when he was here last. He was lucky that clown could even hand the ball off, and it is a testament to his playcalling (and the o-line) that we were able to run as effectively as we did. Defenses didn’t have to worry about Russell being able to throw the ball so they stacked the box, and we still had a top ten rushing attack.
The guy actually has an NFL quarterback this time. Watch a few games before you slit your wrists.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:40 am
Darren McFadden’s rise had nothing to do with his OC, and everything to do with his ability to break tackles.
His first few years, the first defender brought him down every time. 2010, the first guy NEVER took him down.
Also, injuries played a case. His best career game, in KC game 2 of his career, came with Knapp calling the game. He got hurt afterwards, and wasn’t the same for awhile (sounds familiar doesn’t it)
February 1st, 2012 at 5:41 am
455.raiderzmaverick Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:22 am
I don’t care about “something we’ve never seen”. I care about “successful”. People who have consistently improved the ranking of the units they are in charge of.
In Knapp’s last position (QB Coach for Houston), they were #1 passing Offense in 2009 before he took the QB Coach position.
in 2010 they dropped 3 spaces to #4. In 2011 they dropped to #18. So, in the two years he was QB Coach there they dropped from #1 in the NFL to #18.
So…why are we hiring this guy?
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Knapp wasn’t the playcaller in Houston, nor was he the offensive coordinator. He was the quarterbacks coach.
Houston’s slide in passing stats also probably had something to do with Arian Foster developing as an elite running back.
I hate to bang on you bro, but you’re not thinking past you initial reaction.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:45 am
Teach,
A lot of the Hue “truthers” are out trying to prove they were right.
About 11 months from now, they won’t be, but we may have to put up with it for the offseason.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:48 am
Any word on Saunders status? Maybe he will have input on passing game as a QB coach/assistant OC. Knapp has always done well with the running game, sounds like a good combo. Just looking for the positive in the Knapp hire.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:49 am
Morning, boss. Yeah, I know. They would be a lot more compelling if they were able to come in with something a little more substantial now and then. It’s all knee-jerk, with no thought behind it.
It’s amazing to me that the guy still has any credibility in here anyway. He obviuosly(!) doesn’t have any around the league.
February 1st, 2012 at 5:55 am
Looks like I’m not the only one that noticed the pathetic display of effort at the Pro Bowl this year;
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7524660/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-says-nfc-pro-bowlers-embarrassed
February 1st, 2012 at 6:00 am
If they want to make the Pro Bowl a little more compelling?
Winning team gets a first class flight home, losers ride coach.
You might see at least SOME effort, here and there.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:01 am
Good Morning Nation!!! F Knapp…any word on a DC hire besides Manusky coming in for an interview?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:01 am
if Manusky is hired, does that mean we’re switching to a 3-4 Defense?
I assume so …
February 1st, 2012 at 6:03 am
One thing about the ZBS, is that while it prefers the more “athletic” O-lineman, most ZBS teams have a road-grader of a FB.
Wonder what this will mean for Reece as a FB.
J Wiggity, this is your cue to tell us how we should move him to TE/HB.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:04 am
471.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:00 am
If they want to make the Pro Bowl a little more compelling?
Winning team gets a first class flight home, losers ride coach.
You might see at least SOME effort, here and there.
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I’ll take it one step further. Winners get a week’s paid vacation with their families after the game. Losers pay their own way home.
How ’bout it?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:04 am
Are Hue Jackson and Al Saunders even going to be employed in 2012?
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JFB,
Al Saunders is under contract. He wont make waves like Hue would. He might be re-assigned to the scouting dept
Hue Jackson may be the new Texans QB Coach?
we hired away GK!
February 1st, 2012 at 6:08 am
WANT TO MAKE THE PRO BOWL A LITTLE MORE COMPELLING..CANCELL IT..I AGREE WITH POST-9.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:08 am
I hope Donatell or Manusky get hired today.
also hope Wylie & Wiz are retained!
February 1st, 2012 at 6:12 am
RaidO Says:
I don’t write the rules but when people talk about overall stats Raiders were 10th in offense. Just like how people rant and rave about the offenses of:
Rankings,
1.Saints
2.Pats
3.Packers
I guess those stats don’t mean anything uh?
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But those three teams were also the top three scoring teams – in a different order. So what’s your point?
Being top 10 in yardage doesn’t mean a thing if you can’t punch it into the end zone.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:13 am
I want Todd Haley as QB Coach or WR Coach
we may not have the opportunity. He interviewed with Pittsburgh yesterday
February 1st, 2012 at 6:13 am
if Manusky is hired, does that mean we’re switching to a 3-4 Defense?
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Did you not hear Coach Allen’s presser?
3-4….4-3….it doesn’t matter, you have to show multiple looks.
May we run a tad more 3-4, probably. But we will NOT be in a base defense often.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:16 am
I miss watching ESPN and seeing things like this,..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvPIAXpu7eg&feature=g-vrec&context=G2be02ecRVAAAAAAAAAw
February 1st, 2012 at 6:16 am
JFB,
question is, who the BLEEP is gonna play NT if we go 3-4 – even just on occassion?
and who are we gonna put next to McClain at ILB?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:16 am
Discipline alone will help this team immensely. That will continue drives and lead to more points/stop 3rd and longs on D. Something that is desperately needed on this team.
On the flip side…IF these over paid players don’t buy into it, or Knapp fails down the stretch. The O sputters and these guys may mail it in. Discipline will fly right out the window.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:17 am
and who are we gonna put next to McClain at ILB?
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McClain is so awesome he can handle two spots by himself.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:19 am
Seymour-Kelly-Houston
Moss-Curry-McClain-Wimbley
thats our 3-4 Defense ???
I just dont want to see much 4-3 if Manusky is “the guy”
Rob Ryan was forced to do that crap here and failed miserably. Let a DC do what he knows best
Allen = 4-3
Manusky = 3-4
I’m confused
February 1st, 2012 at 6:24 am
http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20120201/SPORTS/202010308/Miller-Grieco-take-Raiders-strength-jobs
Here’s an article about our new Strength & Conditioning guys, Al Miller and John Grieco.
Hopefully, we can have fewer guys stuck on the shelf this year.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:28 am
Rob Ryan failed I believe because of Warren Sapp! He was out of position…
February 1st, 2012 at 6:28 am
Well, adios Brad Roll…lets see what happens this year! Can DMAC stay heathy all year???
February 1st, 2012 at 6:30 am
Thanks for the link, RaiderDuck.
It’s amazing, isn’t it? Everyone has something good to say about DA. Really looking forward to next year. It sounds like we FINALLY have some professionals in Oakland.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:34 am
Duck,
Not sure if these guys will be an upgrade from the last Strength and Conditioning guys, but i’m hoping these guys can help with the injury issues.
Here’s what Peter King had to say about our injury problem that i thought was interesting.
One of Allen’s first jobs will be to get to the bottom of why their skill players have been so injury-prone. Darren McFadden’s career is in danger of being a washout. He’s missed 12 games with injuries in the past two years, and he’s never made it through a season healthy in four years. Same thing with the wideouts. With prior deals robbing the Raiders of so many draft picks, it’s essential the players they do have can stay on the field.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:34 am
question is, who the BLEEP is gonna play NT if we go 3-4 – even just on occassion?
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Reggie is going to trade into the 2nd round and grab that big NT from Washington. Watch.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:37 am
OUCH! But funny…
The Raiders are not expected to bring back free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
Housh may be a favorite of Carson Palmer, but he was only signed last year because Hue Jackson was running the show in the front office. Now that Reggie McKenzie has taken over, beat writer Steve Corkran jokingly suggests Houshmandzadeh is “getting his nails done with Hue.”
February 1st, 2012 at 6:37 am
And if this is true…Branch ain’t going anywhere…
The Raiders are expected to place a priority on re-signing free agent SS Tyvon Branch.
Branch led the team with 109 tackles, excelling in run support while holding his own in coverage. New coach Dennis Allen comes from the Gregg Williams school of blitzing, so Branch’s role could be expanded if the Raiders are successful in bringing him back.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:38 am
Both tweets by Corky of course!
February 1st, 2012 at 6:38 am
I FOR ONE WILL GIVE THIS NEW REGIME A 2-3 YEAR WINDOW TO MAKE THE OAKLAND RAIDERS RELIVENT AGAIN ON A CONSISTANT BASIS.NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER.DONT HAVE TIME 4 TO MANY MORE REBUILDING PLANS..
February 1st, 2012 at 6:40 am
Agreed Dirt Lot!
February 1st, 2012 at 6:42 am
Carson Palmer is not a west-coast type QB, I dont like this Knapp hire, we did not throw the ball down the field when he was here, and we Manusky is not a great hire either. What is going on here…we lost on Bowles and we could have done better that Knapp. We goin backwards!
February 1st, 2012 at 6:43 am
Edward Teach Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:38 am
461.raiderzmaverick Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:20 am
If you read what I said above, I think I’m pretty clear.
But another point. This is a PASSING LEAGUE now. Proof?
Out of the top 10 Passing teams only 2 are not in the playoffs.
Out of the top 10 Rushing teams 6 out of 10 are NOT in the playoffs.
So, 8 out of the top 10 passing teams are in the playoffs.
4 out of 10 of the top rushing teams are in the playoffs.
I rest my case. Knapp was a STUPID STUPID hire.
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Don’t trends change at some point? The thing with a sound running game and a balanced passing attack is that you don’t turn the ball over as often. I’m sure..well, i hope Knapp has learned to throw some “wrinkles” in.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:43 am
Regarding this post:
909RaiderLifer Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I thought I had killed the braincells that held those memories.
Much to my chagrin, it’s all coming back to me now.
Knapp 1.0 offense as I remember:
1st.dn. Run to left, 2yrds.
2nd.dn. Run up the middle, 1yrd.
3rd.dn. Pass to TE, 5 yrds.
4th.dn. Pray for Shane to pin ‘em
Sound familiar?……
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Many have asked what Knapp’s offense might look like – it won’t be like that and it was not like that in 2007 or 8 which was more like.
1st Down – Run left for 7 yards
2nd Down – False start 5 yards
2nd Down – McCown or JR incomplete pass in JR’s case ball thrown over RB’s head by 10 feet. Kind of like Tebow without the ability to run.
3rd Down JR or McCown 5 yard dump off pass complete because no one downfield could get open. Holding penalty declined.
The problems in 07-8 were that we had scrub QB’s or JBustus and poor WR play. Teams would begin to load the box and dare us to throw. Our QB’s were erratic and inaccurate among the worst to ever start for Oakland.
With a decent QB and improving/fast WRs, other teams will have to respect play action and not load the box and when they do load the box, Palmer is more than capable to make them pay. So like I said earlier you are going to see a mixed blocking scheme Zone man and hybrid, You are going to see a ton of play action, you are going to see more WC like timing routes which CP is good at by the way, you are going to see more use of the TE and RB with short high percentage throws used like runs (one critisism of last years offense is RBs and WRs were not used consistently although some of the designed plays for the FB were awesome!). While I thought the current offense was fine, Knapp is no bread and breakfast guy (referring to our OC in 06 which serves to illustrate that coaching does matter!). I am sure when an OC job comes up he is always on “the list” for other teams. He has not been out of the league and Allen and him probably have a repore and an understanding of what they think will work with the personal we have.
Like I said hiring Knapp is not the end of the world here because he really is a competent OC.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:45 am
Ddwight Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:42 am
Carson Palmer is not a west-coast type QB, I dont like this Knapp hire, we did not throw the ball down the field when he was here, and we Manusky is not a great hire either. What is going on here…we lost on Bowles and we could have done better that Knapp. We goin backwards!
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To add to that..McFadden would have to be a one cut runner, but he would have to slide and pick in a ZBS…he’s much better coming straight then jump cutting….Foster ran with slight lean but at an angle so he was difficult to tackle then seemed to gather momentum and bounce off of people.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
501.RaiderSam Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:45 am
Ddwight Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:42 am
Carson Palmer is not a west-coast type QB, I dont like this Knapp hire, we did not throw the ball down the field when he was here, and we Manusky is not a great hire either. What is going on here…we lost on Bowles and we could have done better that Knapp. We goin backwards!
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To add to that..McFadden would have to be a one cut runner, but he would have to slide and pick in a ZBS…he’s much better coming straight then jump cutting….Foster ran with slight lean but at an angle so he was difficult to tackle then seemed to gather momentum and bounce off of people.
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No doubt Palmer & Mcfadden do not equal Gregg Knapp…the jury is out here…I dont understand it because this hire does not play to our strenghts…Knapp equals CRAPP!
February 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
HOW MUCH IS A HEADCOACH WORTH TO A FOOTBALL TEAM (WINS/LOSSES)OR A MANAGER TO A BASEBALL TEAM ?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:49 am
You can’t build a blocking scheme around a RB who is so injury-prone.
McFadden is a year older, and has another injury on that body.
Anything over 200 touches next season is a house money, IMO.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:50 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:28 am
Rob Ryan failed I believe because of Warren Sapp! He was out of position
Rob Ryan did not have Warren Sapp in Dallas this year! The guy sucked and still sucks. In 06 we had the statistics because other teams went ball control in the 2nd half because our offense was incapable of scoring but he was a disaster and when you listen to him talk he barely is coherent.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:51 am
Edward Teach Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:34 am
question is, who the BLEEP is gonna play NT if we go 3-4 – even just on occassion?
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Reggie is going to trade into the 2nd round and grab that big NT from Washington. Watch.
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He might last until the 66th pick, but Indianapolis or St. Louis would want him.
More realistic would be a Hebron Fangupuo out of BYU or an LB like Bobby Wagner of Utah at 83 or 84 in the 3rd – maybe swing a deal with Tennessee or Cincinnati.
Indianapolis might be an ideal partner as they would have a high 3rd, and we could dangle Houston or Shaughnessey,…the thing is, none of them have 3-4 experience, but could do a future pick.
Another NT candidate would be Dontae Poe or Nicolas Jean-Baptiste out of Baylor.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 am
McFadden’s best season, was in 2010, when we were still using a majority of Cable’s ZBS blocking scheme.
Remember, Hue was going to build this bully and go to more of a power-blocking scheme.
McFadden improved in 2010, because he started breaking tackles, we had a QB who defenses at least took serious, and we got a top-flight LT.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 am
Are you talking about Alameda Ta’amu?
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Reggie is going to trade into the 2nd round and grab that big NT from Washington. Watch.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:54 am
Ddwight Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
501.RaiderSam Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:45 am
Ddwight Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:42 am
Carson Palmer is not a west-coast type QB, I dont like this Knapp hire, we did not throw the ball down the field when he was here, and we Manusky is not a great hire either. What is going on here…we lost on Bowles and we could have done better that Knapp. We goin backwards!
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To add to that..McFadden would have to be a one cut runner, but he would have to slide and pick in a ZBS…he’s much better coming straight then jump cutting….Foster ran with slight lean but at an angle so he was difficult to tackle then seemed to gather momentum and bounce off of people.
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No doubt Palmer & Mcfadden do not equal Gregg Knapp…the jury is out here…I dont understand it because this hire does not play to our strenghts…Knapp equals CRAPP!
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I think the only way this thing realistically works is if they craft McFadden into more of a pass catching back, and they have that in Reece, then have a big receiver that can get yards after the catch – but are guys are more like slant and streak receivers. I mean, the offense is made to be wide open and they have to get these guys IN SPACE. We don’t have the cutback type runner for this…unless they plan on drafting one that fits this , or trading for somebody like say, Ben Tate of the Texans, who has been in this type deal.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:54 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:48 am
HOW MUCH IS A HEADCOACH WORTH TO A FOOTBALL TEAM (WINS/LOSSES)OR A MANAGER TO A BASEBALL TEAM ?
Having a bad coach can cost you a couple of games a year. A good coach likewise. It is like limiting factors. What is limiting your team. If you have talent with poor coaching then you are coach limited (AKA San Diego). If you lack talent but have good coaching often a team overperforms with the talent they have and wins a few extra games (AKA NE). However, you probably can not win a Superbowl on talent alone or coaching alone because they other team facing you will be hot, talented and have at least decent coaching. I thought we had decent coaching last year. I think we will have at least as good coaching this year. I say decent becuase Hue had good offensive schemes but the defense schemes sucked and there was a lack of discipline and focus on the team as evidenced by breaking the record for penalties.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:55 am
Who is that NT we have on the practice squad now?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:55 am
Dennis Allen = NFL quality chess-player
Hue Jackson = doesn’t know how to even setup the chess pieces
February 1st, 2012 at 6:56 am
Knapps official nickname : RRPP= run, run, pass, punt.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:57 am
Here’s an article about our new Strength & Conditioning guys, Al Miller and John Grieco
adios Brad Roll!
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2012 Raiders = 12 wins, 4 losses
February 1st, 2012 at 6:58 am
When are we due to renew the season tix? Dirt Lot, anyone that are season tix holders?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:01 am
“Who the hell knows if we had a real O-Coordinator if Jamarcus might have turned out better. I mean when you’re in a system that doesn’t fit you and you’re failing PLUS you have your close family dying…I’m not saying for sure. But, if you’re winning and enjoying the game you suddenly will put in more effort. I kind of doubt it, but we never will know.”
Really? Do you really believe that. This year Knapp was the QB coach in Houston and got a late round QB to be serviceable on a playoff team. Jbustus was bad from day one and a drug addict. Give me a break! At LSU he had an awesome OL and WRs and could just wait till they were open against most teams like ND. I thought the day he picked him he was Ryan Leaf but I was wrong he was worse than Ryan Leaf.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:01 am
HWNRDR,SHOULD GET 1ST INVOICE IN FEBUARY.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:01 am
Reggie is going to trade into the 2nd round and grab that big NT from Washington. Watch.
He might last until the 66th pick, but Indianapolis or St. Louis would want him.
More realistic would be a Hebron Fangupuo out of BYU
Another NT candidate would be Dontae Poe or Nicolas Jean-Baptiste out of Baylor
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Draft talk, already?
well… I guess it is February!
I like it
February 1st, 2012 at 7:03 am
Put together, both Knapp and Manusky spell disaster. I don’t understand anything that’s going on with RegMac and Allen, obviously the changes are spiraling in, but at least for me, I don’t see how this could be for the good.
I know RegNac wants his “guy” to do the staff hiring, but Knapp? Manusky? If you have Knapp, what would Saunders do? Same as last year, nothing.
Whatever happened to Dennis Turman?
Are the donkeys going to have a better defense with Jack del Rio? That would be too much to take. How did the donkeys manage that hire? And the Raiders are talking to Manusky?
Please somebody tell me that’s not true. From the outside, these changes look highly questionable. I guess I just have to wait for the season.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:04 am
The Raiders are not expected to bring back free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
Housh may be a favorite of Carson Palmer, but he was only signed last year because Hue Jackson was running the show in the front office. Now that Reggie McKenzie has taken over, beat writer Steve Corkran jokingly suggests Houshmandzadeh is “getting his nails done with Hue.”
The Raiders are expected to place a priority on re-signing free agent SS Tyvon Branch.
Branch led the team with 109 tackles, excelling in run support while holding his own in coverage. New coach Dennis Allen comes from the Gregg Williams school of blitzing, so Branch’s role could be expanded if the Raiders are successful in bringing him back.
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great news!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:05 am
Who are we going to trade for a 2nd rounder?
Compensatory picks can’t be traded, so we can’t package that 3rd rounder with say TK and move up to the 2nd.
We can package a 5th with a player to move up I guess.
I don’t think anyone on the roster outside of Carson Palmer or Dennarius Moore would get us a 2nd rounder in return.
McFadden maybe, but his salary and injury history works against his value.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:12 am
SS Branch “excels in run support” , but we’re still a horrible run defense?
who gets the blame? Seymour, Kelly or McClain?
Chuck Bresnahan = John Marshall = Rob Ryan.
blame the system?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:13 am
Edward Teach Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:34 am
question is, who the BLEEP is gonna play NT if we go 3-4 – even just on occassion?
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Reggie is going to trade into the 2nd round and grab that big NT from Washington. Watch.
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I had my draft watch power rankings set for
1. Marvin McNutt, WR, iowa
2. Audie Cole, ILB, N.Carolina St.
3. Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas (they have already visited at Sr. Bowl)
4. Markell Martin , FS, Oklahoma St.
5. Senio Kelemenie, G, Washington
6. Harrison Smith, SS/FS, Notre Dame
7. Desmond Wynn, OG, Rutgers
8. Kenny Tate, S, Maryland
9. Derek Wolfe, DE, Cincinnati (fits either a 3-4 or a 4-3)
10. Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise St.
11. Akiem Hicks, DT, Regina (Canada) – project, beastly size and power
12. Asa Jackson, CB, Cal-Poly – late-possibly UDFA
13. Patrick Witt, QB, Yale
14. Chigbo Anunoby, DE/DT, Morehouse
15. Doug Martin, RB, Boise St – know he’s going much higher (a slower, but equally tough Ray Rice that plays special teams and can pick up the blitz)
16. George Iloka, S, Boise St – another big safety, like Tate that can light up people
FA shopping list
Adam Snyder – RT and RG right across the bay
Legedu Naanee, WR – good possession receiver if they move on from Glass Schillens
Gary Guyton, ILB – great in coverage from the pats
Robert Mathis, DE – likely to be released, could come cheap
Geoff Schwartz, G/T – offers great depth at guard or could start at tackle
Greg Toler, CB – cheap depth from AZ can play specials and corner
Lofa Tatupu LB – has had a year off and could rebound nicely at ILB
Takeo Spikes LB – long in the tooth, but could be a good mentor of McClain
Travis LaBoy, LB – like Takeo, played for Manusky at SF and San Diego (if Manusky becomes DC)
Brandon McKinney, NT – could either play end or nt for 3-4
Jeremy Zuttah G/T – interior back up
Broderick Bunkley, DT – was with Allen at Denver
Shawnte Spencer, CB – big corner but banged up a lot at SF, worth a look if Manusky becomes DC, because he coached him at SF
February 1st, 2012 at 7:14 am
We have gone backwards!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:14 am
JFB,
we can trade future picks!
However, I would trade Seymour or McClain for a 2nd in a heartbeat …
February 1st, 2012 at 7:15 am
Palmer and Campbell: Campbell is 95% gone as a free agent and not coming back. Some people never liked him for the wrong reasons. Some of the same folks defending Campbell are now bashing Palmer, for all the same wrong reasons.
To those on both sides of this debacle: If you can’t get over your own issues with these guys, keep your old-fashioned thinking to yourselves.
Focus on the future; its never as bad as it appears because you can make it better.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:55 am
Dennis Allen = NFL quality chess-player
Hue Jackson = doesn’t know how to even setup the chess pieces
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Whose offense dropped 59 on Denver again? Lets let the season playout, it will be ultimately proven then.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:17 am
F Manusky and poaching coaches from our hated rivals…Dude got canned by the Chargers, please remind me why we would want this guy again???
Should have stayed with Hue, and hired Spags..
Now were going to suck for the next 3 years. Real nice.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:18 am
527.RaiderSam Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:55 am
Dennis Allen = NFL quality chess-player
Hue Jackson = doesn’t know how to even setup the chess pieces
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Whose offense dropped 59 on Denver again? Lets let the season playout, it will be ultimately proven then.
——————————————————I agree, I seem to remember that we also dropped another 39 points on them with Hue as our OC…guess Allen was DC for donkeys huh?!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:18 am
Whose offense dropped 59 on Denver again?
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LOL, we are bragging about hanging 59 on the NFL’s worst ranked defense that year? When we got a pick 6 on the first play, and than recovered a fumble at the 10 yard line the next play?
That’s like bragging about how easy it was to pull the ugliest chick at the bar!!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:19 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:14 am
JFB,
we can trade future picks!
However, I would trade Seymour or McClain for a 2nd in a heartbeat …
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Trick is…what can we actually get for one of them, and if it is then worth it. I honestly doubt either will fetch a 2nd rounder. Thoughts?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:20 am
FA shopping list:
Gary Guyton
Greg Toler
Takeo Spikes
Travis LaBoy
Brandon McKinney
Broderick Bunkley
Shawnte Spencer
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nice list, Sam. tell me where to sign!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:20 am
Greg Manusky Biography:
Once a tough, hard-nosed NFL linebacker, Greg Manusky has since translated those qualities into a successful seven-year professional coaching career.
Manusky brings that mentality to the 49ers defense as he enters his first season as defensive coordinator in San Francisco. Manusky joined the 49ers after serving as the linebackers coach for the San Diego Chargers from 2002-06 and in the same capacity for the Washington Redskins in 2001.
During his 12-year stay as a linebacker with Washington (1988-90), Minnesota (1991-93) and Kansas City (1994-99), Manusky was known as a tenacious workhorse. He said his passion for the game, and mental will to do anything necessary to make an impact on the team, carried him throughout his playing career.
I told Mike (Nolan) during the interview process that I’ve never really had an interview, Manusky said. Coming out of college, my goal was to go to the pros. My only interview was, ‘Can you run as fast as you can, hit the wedge square on and make a play?’ My attitude and experience playing special teams was mostly my forte. I had a heck of a year in 1991 with the Vikings. I used to play a lot of practical jokes on guys. I think that’s how I made the team.
Head Coach Mike Nolan echoed Manusky’s sentiments.
I found Greg to be a very good teacher, not only through our meeting, but also through talking with Dallas Cowboys Head Coach Wade Phillips and other league representatives about him, Nolan said.
He’s got great energy. His organizational skills were very impressive to me. I was very impressed with his ability to organize a staff and delegate the responsibilities, especially since he’s not yet been a coordinator. Although it’s all on paper and just in discussion, he has a very good plan and a very good thought process in putting those things together.
Manusky played in 113 consecutive games during his career. Following the 1991 season, he was selected to the All-Madden Team put together by Hall of Fame broadcaster and former coach, John Madden.
Manusky said the encouragement he received from his coaches during his playing days instilled in him the confidence to enter the coaching profession.
During my sixth year in the league, I played under Tony Dungy and Monty Kiffin in Minnesota. They were the first ones to say, ‘Hey, you’d be a pretty good coach.’ Manusky recalled. That’s the road I’ve traveled since. During the number of years that I spent in Kansas City and even in my past few years as a coach, I’ve continued to try and push myself and adopt the mindset of an offensive or defensive coordinator. I’ve been fortunate to have the opportunity to do that here in San Francisco.
After retiring from the NFL in 1999, Manusky spent the 2000 season as a volunteer at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ training camp where he worked with the linebackers and special teams. One year later, he accepted the job as linebackers coach with the Redskins.
A well-regarded teacher and communicator, Manusky developed the Chargers linebacking corps into one of the NFL’s stingiest units. They were part of a defense that finished the 2006 season ranked seventh against the rush and third in turnover margin with a plus-13 balance. The unit alone accounted for 43.5 of the defense’s 61 total regular season sacks.
In six years as a pro coach, Manusky has sent four players to the Pro Bowl, including San Diego’s Shawne Merriman in 2006, Donnie Edwards and Junior Seau with San Diego in 2002 and LaVar Arrington with Washington in 2001. Merriman, Arrington and Edwards all went to their first career Pro Bowls under Manusky’s tutelage.
Manusky was born in Wilkes-Barre, PA where he prepped at Dallas (PA) High School. He went on to attend Colgate University where he was a four-year letterman and an All-Colonial league selection. He was named the league’s Defensive Player of the Year as a senior and graduated with degrees in education and geology.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:21 am
We have gone backwards!!!
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dwight,
turn around!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:22 am
Post 533 was back when he was hired as the 49ers DC.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:22 am
I would rather our defense not have the same identity as the 2010 Chargers….
Puke.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:23 am
Were in for a long 3 years until Allen gets canned.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:23 am
With his contract, the only way we get a 2nd rounder for Seymour is if it is in 2020.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:24 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:18 am
Whose offense dropped 59 on Denver again?
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LOL, we are bragging about hanging 59 on the NFL’s worst ranked defense that year? When we got a pick 6 on the first play, and than recovered a fumble at the 10 yard line the next play?
That’s like bragging about how easy it was to pull the ugliest chick at the bar!!!!
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well based on Greg Knapp’s offense having the lowest output in Raider history vs. the Falcons, back in 2008, he must really pull ugly chicks. I seem to recall Tom Cable taking over the play calling duties?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:24 am
Greg Manusky = stud
February 1st, 2012 at 7:24 am
527.RaiderSam Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:55 am
Dennis Allen = NFL quality chess-player
Hue Jackson = doesn’t know how to even setup the chess pieces
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Whose offense dropped 59 on Denver again? Lets let the season playout, it will be ultimately proven then.
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I can if you open your eye’s and tell me where we are going R.Star!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:25 am
Allen wasn’t the DC when we dropped 59 on them…
February 1st, 2012 at 7:25 am
534.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:21 am
We have gone backwards!!!
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dwight,
turn around!
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I can if you open your eye’s and tell me where we are going R.Star!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:26 am
542.hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:25 am
Allen wasn’t the DC when we dropped 59 on them…
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Do you know who was?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:27 am
We WILL the AFC West next season.
Not a doubt in my mind.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:28 am
retreads….
February 1st, 2012 at 7:29 am
well based on Greg Knapp’s offense having the lowest output in Raider history vs. the Falcons, back in 2008
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The game where Jamarcus ran for 18 yards, and was so winded, he just willingly took a delay of game penalty?
The Jamarcus era stained everyone involved.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:29 am
I recall the 49ers having a tough D under Manusky, not as good as this year but solid overall.
I’m not really concerned about Manusky because Defense is Allen’s area of expertise, I think Manusky will be implementing Allen’s ideas and game plans.
Now Greg Knapp is the one I’m concerned about.
He’s been around and should at least have some coaching and teaching skills, I hope.
But our offense is full of explosive players, we need an agressive, attacking style just like Allen said, nothing we’ve heard and seen from Knapp suggests he’s the right man for the job.
But hey, if our Defense can step up we may not need to score 25 plus to win games.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:30 am
With his contract, the only way we get a 2nd rounder for Seymour is if it is in 2020.
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package him with ROMAC!
McClain + Seymour = 2nd rounder in 2012
JFB, I’ll make the sell for you
Top 10 draft pick MLB entering his 3rd NFL season only scheduled to have $970k salary this season.
Pro Bowl DT (future HOF’er) that can still give you 2 or 3 good years. Excellent leadership skills
These players just need a fresh start. We’re not looking to unload them for any other reason than to get Reggie McKenzie (our new GM) a few draft picks to work with in his first season here. He wants “his guys”
Willing to buy ???
thought so. gimme that draft pick, sucka!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:20 am
FA shopping list:
Gary Guyton
Greg Toler
Takeo Spikes
Travis LaBoy
Brandon McKinney
Broderick Bunkley
Shawnte Spencer
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nice list, Sam. tell me where to sign!
The number is the key – all probably have to come in at a base of 1.5-2 million or less.
if we went the trade route;
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie – wants to start, but stuck as a slot corner
Dan Conner – also wants to start
Jo Lonn Dunbar – Saints – did a bang up job subbing for Jonathan Vilma, and Allen is familiar with him from the Saints
let me put some other names out
S Michael Adams – 30, but a decent hitter coming off a good season with the Browns
LB Tim Dobbins – same as above with the Chiefs, good if we go to 3-4
DE Anthony Spencer – better at setting the edge v. the run, so-so pass rusher, but fits 3-4
LB Ahmad Brooks – again, looking for a pay day is an FA, Manusky had him at SF, Alden Smith got all the accolade and the sacks
S Reggie Smith – could come cheap, and would be an upgrade over Matt Giordano, again – if Donatel becomes DC, great pick-up from hard-hitting SF secondary
CB Roderick Hood – outstanding v. run, but a little older
LB DeAndre Levy – coming off great season, but is a restricted FA, would need a considerable trade or offer to pry him away.
DE Cliff Avril – will be a free agent.
OT Breno Giacomini – took over for RT James Carpenter and excelled, McKenzie had him over at Green Bay
the key is the San Diego and S.F. rosters – a bunch of their players could come over cheap, because they didnt have too many big names to begin with and they were effective in the 3-4 that Manusky ran over in S.F.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:33 am
I can if you open your eye’s and tell me where we are going R.Star!!!
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LOL, touche
dwight: I already told you, 12-4 baby!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:34 am
Ddwight Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:26 am
542.hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:25 am
Allen wasn’t the DC when we dropped 59 on them…
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Do you know who was?
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Don “Wink” Martindale. 59 points is 59 points – McFadden ran wild, and did so on Allen’s defense on MNF in week one. That came down to that wacky turnover by Kyle Orton. And yes, the JaMarcus era stained everyone.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:34 am
McKenzie and Allen seem to have high hopes for Rolando McClain, he’s not going anywhere.
Manusky, a former LB is an experienced position coach, he might help McClain get his game together.
Why are people so desperate to get a 2nd round pick?.
This won’t be the last draft in history you know?.
Next year we have close to a full slate of picks (minus the 2nd rounder), we’ll get several new players then.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:35 am
RIP Don Cornelius, you were an awesome dude, met you when I was like 12…living in LA will drive a decent man to suicide…very common there…Im not surprised at the daily blogheads here going through box after box of Kleenex crying about Knapp, and now Manuskey,…you all truly are clueless, you have no idea of the teams plan, your own plan is to cry and complain about whomever was going to be named to OC and DC,…and now Im reading some season ticket holders, like myself, (section 130), are actually trippin, hoping like Hell their 2012 invoice would hurry the heck up and arrive,..really?…dang…anyway, see you all around the draft because Im sure Reggie will get us a day one or two pick, hes awesome and so is the new head coach,…but you losers can continue to cry, its all you know. Ciao.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:35 am
Willing to buy ???
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Not a good close line.
Leave it open-ended (”so do you want to give up the 2nd in 2012, or a 5th in 2012 and a 2013 2nd”)
or the assumed close (”After this swap, when do you want to start looking at swapping picks in later rounds, as we got a few young WR’s you can look at”?)
If I keep hearing weak closes like that, I will have to call mandatory sales technique classes for our blog organizations.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:37 am
551.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:33 am
I can if you open your eye’s and tell me where we are going R.Star!!!
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LOL, touche
dwight: I already told you, 12-4 baby!
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I hope you are right R.Star.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:37 am
544.ddwight Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:26 am
542.hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:25 am
Allen wasn’t the DC when we dropped 59 on them…
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Do you know who was?
Was it Wink? Then again, yeah…McFadden did run wild on Monday night?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:38 am
Edward Teach, JFB…show me the stats that back you up.
My initial reaction is based on his last 3 stints as Offensive Coordinator FAILING. He couldn’t throw it because “Vick sucked”. The Offensive Coordinator will make the offense look good or bad unless you have Payton Manning sitting there.
Proof? Look at how the offenses flourished within 2 years of Knapp leaving by some weird miracle.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 am
I just read that…RIP Don Cornelius!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:37 am
544.ddwight Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:26 am
542.hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:25 am
Allen wasn’t the DC when we dropped 59 on them…
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Do you know who was?
Was it Wink? Then again, yeah…McFadden did run wild on Monday night?
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Denver fought harder in that game…in the previous game, they just gave up (Tommy Kelly’s exact words)
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 am
Well, I’m off to go meet a city manager and close him on adding a payroll ROTH IRA for his employees.
2012 = Best year ever!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 am
or the assumed close (”After this swap, when do you want to start looking at swapping picks in later rounds, as we got a few young WR’s you can look at”?)
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JFB,
I like this one.
You looking to unload Ford or Murphy?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:29 am
well based on Greg Knapp’s offense having the lowest output in Raider history vs. the Falcons, back in 2008
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The game where Jamarcus ran for 18 yards, and was so winded, he just willingly took a delay of game penalty?
The Jamarcus era stained everyone involved.
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Skip the Jamarcus era than (although I think innovative creative play calling and work could’ve made more out of him).
Look at his other stints. He was DEAD LAST in the league 2 times in passing offense. And was below 15 in both points scored and offense EVERY SINGLE YEAR he was O-Coordinator for 9 years in a row. Is that not enough proof?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:41 am
R.I.P. Don Cornelius…its gonna be stone gas, Honey!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:42 am
554.AmysInCharge Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:35 am
RIP Don Cornelius, you were an awesome dude, met you when I was like 12…living in LA will drive a decent man to suicide…very common there…Im not surprised at the daily blogheads here going through box after box of Kleenex crying about Knapp, and now Manuskey,…you all truly are clueless, you have no idea of the teams plan, your own plan is to cry and complain about whomever was going to be named to OC and DC,…and now Im reading some season ticket holders, like myself, (section 130), are actually trippin, hoping like Hell their 2012 invoice would hurry the heck up and arrive,..really?…dang…anyway, see you all around the draft because Im sure Reggie will get us a day one or two pick, hes awesome and so is the new head coach,…but you losers can continue to cry, its all you know. Ciao.
You know what, this is right! None of us know the plan…I personally don’t like the hire of Knapp but let’s see where this takes us! We finally have what everyone was crying about for the last decade or so…let’s see what happens! Bit**ing about it is really not gonna help!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:43 am
561.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 am
Well, I’m off to go meet a city manager and close him on adding a payroll ROTH IRA for his employees.
2012 = Best year ever!!!
Let me ask you about that…I left the IRA department where I worked for awhile as soon as Roth was available! Is it still one of the best for younger employees or anyone for that matter?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:49 am
we all know.. by the time Dennis Allen was hired, there weren’t many talented OC’s or DC’s to choose from. Thats why we were all complaining that McKenzie was taking too long to make the HC hire!
I’m sure Allen looked at the list of umemployed guys with OC experience and wasn’t impressed. He looked at Saunders and wasn’t impressed. Next step would be to look at all the QB Coaches around the league. Do any of them have OC (and play caller) experience? Have I worked with any of these guys before? Who has a good reputation around the league?
Knapp went 3 for 3
February 1st, 2012 at 7:51 am
STATS for Knapp:
OC Atlanta Falcons:
2004 #30 Passing Offense
2005 #27 Passing Offense
2006 #32 Passing Offense (DEAD LAST!)
OC Oakland Raiders
2007 #31 Passing Offense
2008 #32 Passing Offense (DEAD LAST!)
OC Seattle Seahawks
2009 #16 Passing Offense
Look at those stats.
Here’s for Points Scored:
OC Atlanta Falcons
2004 #16 Scoring Offense
2005 #14 Scoring Offense
2006#25 Scoring Offense
OC Oakland Raiders
2007 #23 Scoring
2008 #29 Scoring
OC Seattle Seahawks
2009 #25 Scoring
Now, the HIGHEST he EVER made as an OC was #14 in Scoring. The BEST he’s been is middle-of-the pack. And, for 2 years he was WORST out of ANY Offense in the NFL.
How do you hire this guy?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:52 am
…and now the same on defense…
The Raiders reportedly interviewed ex-Chargers DC Greg Manusky for their defensive coordinator vacancy.
“The Chargers defense fell off after replacing Ron Rivera with Manusky while the 49ers defense surged to elite status after moving on from Manusky. According to the Union-Trib San Diego, “many in the organization, including several players, had been convinced for some time that hiring Manusky was a mistake.”
February 1st, 2012 at 7:55 am
And, there were plenty of options as far as Defensive or Offensive Coordinators. Jack Del Rio, Todd Bowles are two that were available when Allen was hired that now aren’t. Both would have made good DC’s and have good production records.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:00 am
Mav,
Manusky had an EXCELLENT reputation from 2001-2010.
1 year as Dolts DC doesn’t convince me he’s a complete failure.
Manusky brought with him veteran inside linebacker Takeo Spikes and Travis LaBoy. Other than that, he was playing with the team AJ Smith had made for him. A team that everyone knew lacked playmakers to begin with but had promise at all key positions, but promise that almost never realized. As already described by Orz, Manusky’s unit took a huge blow, and it was something that lasted all year, not just a few games. There has been talk that some players in some way may have ‘given up’ on Manusky but that shows character flaws in the players more than coaching flaws, which is worrisome. But where was that during the 4-1 start?
http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2012/1/17/2696253/was-greg-manusky-a-scapegoat
February 1st, 2012 at 8:01 am
Yes, the Niners D surged to elite status after Manusky was let go, but all that happened was they added CB’s like Carlos Rogers and who was that colided with Gholston? Prior to that, they were already stopping the run! Not sure what happened in SD, but Ron Rivera was a good DC there!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:08 am
there were plenty of options as far as Defensive or Offensive Coordinators. Jack Del Rio, Todd Bowles are two that were available when Allen was hired that now aren’t. Both would have made good DC’s and have good production records
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Mav,
Bowles has NEVER been a DC before. zero play calling experience
Del Rio hasn’t been a DC in 10 years. He has one year experience doing it (under John Fox) and that team went 7-9
February 1st, 2012 at 8:16 am
the Niners D surged to elite status after Manusky was let go
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Hwnrdr,
the 49ers Defense was already good. the 49ers start winning football games because their offense improved
I give Manusky credit for that transformation.
YOU PEOPLE (like Sandy Eggo) can give him all the blame
February 1st, 2012 at 8:17 am
what did the 49ers Defense look like before Manusky got there as DC?
anybody know?
February 1st, 2012 at 8:17 am
I was in line and in agreement with everything that we were doing in this change of leadership and front office but this OC hire of Knapp has me scratching my head.
I will trust in the new front office and hope that we can still be as explosive on offense as we were last year.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:25 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:17 am
I was in line and in agreement with everything that we were doing in this change of leadership and front office but this OC hire of Knapp has me scratching my head.
I will trust in the new front office and hope that we can still be as explosive on offense as we were last year.
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I hope it works out too, but why in the world should we trust a rookie GM, HC, and failed OC? Pick a year, any year Knapp is K rap!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:26 am
# raiderzmaverick Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:51 am
Now, the HIGHEST he EVER made as an OC was #14 in Scoring. The BEST he’s been is middle-of-the pack. And, for 2 years he was WORST out of ANY Offense in the NFL.
How do you hire this guy?
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Yep, and it makes it even worse that we GOT RID of Saunders for this guy…its not like we didn’t even have anyone..
“I got a bad feeling about this”
-Han Solo
February 1st, 2012 at 8:26 am
Everyone is up in arms about the Coordinators for one reason only. They all just KNEW that as soon as Al was gone, we were getting an All-Star coaching staff. Cower as HC, Gruden as OC, Rex Ryan as DC Etc Etc… They didn’t think that we would be looking at the same group of guys that Al would have been looking at. Its a matter of unrealistic expectations.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:27 am
McKenzie & Allen want to be physical. they want to run the football. Greg Knapp is a run-oriented play caller
We were Top 10 both years he was here as OC last time around. Expect smashmouth football. Carson Palmer will love it because it’s takes a bunch of pressure off of him. We’ll have a mix of ZBS & power (like last year) and I don’t see any reason why Wylie & Wiz couldn’t handle the duties.
Darren McFadden will adjust nicely. Mike Bush will be retained at a reasonable rate
no more Air Coryell football heaving it down the field, just because Al Davis loves it or Al Saunders knows it. turnovers & penalties will decline. the Raiders will win more football games
I’m on board with the Knapp hire …
February 1st, 2012 at 8:27 am
RaiderLen Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Next move is to retain Wylie and Classic Wiz.
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Hope so.
Quality.
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That would be nice, but not sure Wylie is the guy for Knapp’s style.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:29 am
574.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:16 am
the Niners D surged to elite status after Manusky was let go
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Hwnrdr,
the 49ers Defense was already good. the 49ers start winning football games because their offense improved
I give Manusky credit for that transformation.
YOU PEOPLE (like Sandy Eggo) can give him all the blame
I know…that is why I said that they were already stopping the run…
February 1st, 2012 at 8:29 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:26 am
Everyone is up in arms about the Coordinators for one reason only. They all just KNEW that as soon as Al was gone, we were getting an All-Star coaching staff. Cower as HC, Gruden as OC, Rex Ryan as DC Etc Etc… They didn’t think that we would be looking at the same group of guys that Al would have been looking at. Its a matter of unrealistic expectations.
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Not true….there were and are better OC’s and DC’s available than these retreads from other crappy teams.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:30 am
You guys ready to look like the Chargers defense from 2010? Im sure as hell not.
How about the 2009 Seattle Seahawks Offense?
Again…Barfville
February 1st, 2012 at 8:31 am
How would the Manusky hire not a genius move? lets see….whom do we have to beat this year?
Denver
San Diego
Kansas City
Who knows how to beat Denver? Dennis Allen who was their defensive coordinator – Check
Who knows San Diego’s weaknesses? Greg Manusky!, wonder when we call Todd Haley in for an interview
February 1st, 2012 at 8:31 am
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Wow I just figured it out. Allen hired Knapp so he could blame our 3-13 record on him while building our Defense, avoiding giving Cincinnati another 1st round pick, and securing a high 1st for us in 1013. Then he has good reason to fire Knapp and hire a real OC like Norv Turner.
The man is a genius.
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POST of the WEEK!
Spot on MUM. Turner will be fired as HC next year, and he is a MUCK netter OC than HC.
Well said.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:32 am
Not true….there were and are better OC’s and DC’s available than these retreads from other crappy teams.
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Who?
Name them… and tell me why they are better. Remember, teams can deny position coaches from interviewing for coordinator positions.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:33 am
Everyone is up in arms about the Coordinators for one reason only. They all just KNEW that as soon as Al was gone, we were getting an All-Star coaching staff. Cower as HC, Gruden as OC, Rex Ryan as DC Etc Etc… They didn’t think that we would be looking at the same group of guys that Al would have been looking at. Its a matter of unrealistic expectations.
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BCZ,
Agreed – to a certain extent. Al Davis wouldn’t have hired a GM. He wouldn’t have hired a defensive minded HC. He wouldn’t have brought back Knapp (Kiffin connection). He wouldn’t have brought in Manusky (if that works out) due to his 3-4 Defense knowledge & preference
If Al Davis was still around, Jackson & Saunders would run the offense again. Bresnahan (or somebody like him) would be brought in to run Al’s Defense with pressure from the front four and man2man coverage. Penalties & turnovers would continue to plague this team. We’d win no more than 8 games again
February 1st, 2012 at 8:35 am
Knapp will tailor the offense around C Palmer, DMAC, and our WR’s. Come down off the ledge its not a disaster. The DC will do what D Allen tells him too.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:39 am
this team is going to be softer than before if thats possible….
February 1st, 2012 at 8:45 am
Greg Manusky?
Tell me who else is available?
It’s not fancy but it might work.
Could have done better than Knapp tho
IMO
February 1st, 2012 at 8:48 am
Knapp sucks and so does his philsophy……..Manuskyfor DC?…..49er loving bullschit……6-7 wins max this season and we will still suck in 2013 until we rid ourselves of niner bs
February 1st, 2012 at 8:49 am
Someone mistook my last post by adding Allen bashing in to it.
Let me be clear. I like the Allen hire. I think he can do the job.
My problem is the time it took Reggie to get him here really hampered his ability to build a quality staff.
I feel the Knapp hire wouldn’t have taken place if there were better qualified candidates available. However, look around the NFL… there were multiple coaching changes and quality assistants are a luxury. The Steelers are contemplating Todd Haley for Pete’s sake.
And Oh how things might have been different if Hue Jackson’s “good friends” at the Ravens would have allowed him to hire the Assistant he wanted for DC last year.
Now Allen has been denied “his guy” by the Broncos.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:52 am
49er loving bullschit……6-7 wins max this season and we will still suck in 2013 until we rid ourselves of niner bs
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LOL @ ROG
I knew he would chime in on the former 49er coaches!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:52 am
olinesux….yep and we will be softer than medicated cotton until those 49er coordinators are gone
February 1st, 2012 at 8:54 am
RRS….I’m flying to podunk tomorrow!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
Knapp to Palmer: ” I know you wanna throw it on a post corner route to denarious but we don’t throw pass the sticks. Dink it the the man underneath and pray he breaks tackles. It will raise your Qb rating…EFFICIENCY`
February 1st, 2012 at 9:05 am
It seems that any interview of a Head Coaching candidate should involve a question regarding their plan for a coaching staff. Seems that question wasn’t asked or wasn’t realistic in this situation. In my mind it make McKenzie look like he didn’t do his homework.
I don’t mind the Knapp hire but I don’t see it as an upgrade over Saunders.
Manursky as far as I can tell is not a bad choice considering he is the third or fourth option at this point.
It would have been nice to see guys like Del Rio land here but Allen may have to prove he can win first (and McKenzie that he can draft) before we can draw names like that.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:07 am
Also, we should keep in mind that the last time Knapp was OC for us he was creating game plans for a sleepy rookie named Jamarcus Russell.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:07 am
all raider fans should think like method…
February 1st, 2012 at 9:12 am
I think Allen is here to ruin the Raiders, Greg Knapp now Manursky, this guy had a 49er defense and didnt do jack with it, he had a Charger Defense a year ago and look where they ranked, bad hires. I think the reason a lot of us here all angry is that we were that close of being a GOOD TEAM, I think Hue given another year and a better DC would had gotten this team to the Playoffs, yes he HUE messed up and got himself where he is today FIRED!, but now that I see all these moves we are back to Square 1, after we were so close of a Playoff Berth. Im just waiting to see this time next year on how all you ALLEN lovers are going to be whining, like all the PRO HUE fans are right now. NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO 2012
February 1st, 2012 at 9:15 am
I’m not into Manusky as DC. Don’t see how it fits, but maybe Allen just needs a guy who can implement his scheme?
Personally, at this point I’m hoping for Donatell, who worked with both Allen and Knapp.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:16 am
B A U C E is da Sauce! What’s up B?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:17 am
597.Method To My Madness Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:57 am
Knapp to Palmer: ” I know you wanna throw it on a post corner route to denarious but we don’t throw pass the sticks. Dink it the the man underneath and pray he breaks tackles. It will raise your Qb rating…EFFICIENCY`
He better not, and I hope Palmer will tell him BS!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:17 am
things might have been different if Hue Jackson’s “good friends” at the Ravens would have allowed him to hire the Assistant he wanted for DC last year.
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WB,
Poor Hue.
Lane Kiffin wasn’t allowed to bring his dad in as DC, ya know?
Who did Gruden, Callahan, Turner, Shell & Cable want as DC? we’ll never know.
Needless to say, things were “different” here when Al Davis was in charge!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:18 am
Knapp?!
I really don’t get it?!
Is that the best we can do? I don’t think so.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:17 am
things might have been different if Hue Jackson’s “good friends” at the Ravens would have allowed him to hire the Assistant he wanted for DC last year.
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WB,
Poor Hue.
Lane Kiffin wasn’t allowed to bring his dad in as DC, ya know?
Who did Gruden, Callahan, Turner, Shell & Cable want as DC? we’ll never know.
Needless to say, things were “different” here when Al Davis was in charge!
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Wasn’t Willie Shaw a Gruden hire?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Manursky, this guy had a 49er defense and didnt do jack with it
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LOL!
dav = uneducated
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Gruden wanted Johnson from the eagles or Kiffin from TB as I remember.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:21 am
DMAC,
F You bro!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:22 am
I’m not into Manusky as DC. Don’t see how it fits, but maybe Allen just needs a guy who can implement his scheme?
Personally, at this point I’m hoping for Donatell, who worked with both Allen and Knapp.
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YA – did Donatell run a 4-3 as DC in Atlanta ??
how about GB before that?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:22 am
610.DMAC Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Good Morning DAMC!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:22 am
Sorry…LOL,
Good Morning DMAC!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Manursky, this guy had a 49er defense and didnt do jack with it
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LOL!
dav = uneducated
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I actually thought he did a fine job.
The Whiners added a few missing pieces to that D to help them out tremendously.
Manusky is like LoBaeu compared to Bres.
Bring him on!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 am
YA – did Donatell run a 4-3 as DC in Atlanta ??
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I thought he did. Green Bay, too… I think Capers was the one who installed the 3-4 there. Could be wrong, though.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 am
I’m not into Manusky as DC. Don’t see how it fits, but maybe Allen just needs a guy who can implement his scheme?
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Well he was the fall guy in SD. Hopefully he is a very angry man with somthing to prove.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:22 am
610.DMAC Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Good Morning DAMC!
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Why you gotta call me a DAMC?
lol
February 1st, 2012 at 9:25 am
I do wonder how multiple the Raiders intend to be. They’ll need to bring in a couple more pieces if they do intend on running more 3-4 looks than the Raiders traditionally have. The Raiders don’t even have a 4-3 1-tech type, much less a true NT. And outside of Wimbley, I don’t see any real option at rush linebacker on the roster.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:25 am
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:21 am
DMAC,
F You bro!
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OK
A little taste of my own medicine.
“Taste like schiiit!”
lol
What up?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:26 am
DMAC,
LOL
You know I’m playing!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:27 am
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:26 am
DMAC,
LOL
You know I’m playing!
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Never no hard feeling w/ me bruh.
Its all good in da hood.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:28 am
I am slowly starting to feel like this is no longer the Raider team we all grew up with and came to love.
Al being gone is a part of that sure but some things are making me scratch my head like Knapp?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:29 am
And outside of Wimbley, I don’t see any real option at rush linebacker on the roster.
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What up YA
What are your thoughts on ShoNasty playing a rushing LB?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:30 am
For all you Knapp lovers,
Do you really like the hiring of Knapp, and do you really think he is the best guy for the job?
I don’t remember a single post about Knapp before he got hired.
You People are Homers!!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:31 am
People say Matt S can’t play OLB in a 3-4 scheme, but I remember the dude dropping in coverage and getting an INT.
Not bad for a guy who is suppose to rush the passer.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:31 am
What are your thoughts on ShoNasty playing a rushing LB?
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I’m not sure he’s fluid enough to do it consistently. He makes sense as an elephant rusher, and he can drop into coverage from DE on occasion, but I don’t see him as the kind of guy who can change direction suddenly.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:31 am
I looked at the Head Coach Allen. In 1 word – not impressed. Looks like a man who just won the lottery with a Head Coach’s salary in the NFL.
And hiring Knapp – Yuk. Been there and done that. Total unsuccessful retread.
And interviewing Manusky – another retread unsuccessful fat man. So far it looks like another 8-8 season or worse in Raiderland.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 am
I actually thought he did a fine job.
The Whiners added a few missing pieces to that D to help them out tremendously.
Manusky is like LoBaeu compared to Bres.
Bring him on!
Well he was the fall guy in SD. Hopefully he is a very angry man with somthing to prove.
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DMAC & Dutch: Manusky, baby!
do it, Allen
February 1st, 2012 at 9:34 am
B,
Trade Monta.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:35 am
Coaching staffs are like political administrations. Is the current success of a team like the 49ers attributable to the current staff or the previous staff that was responsible for getting those players in place for Harbaugh to come in and take the credit? Or is Harbaugh’s staff responsible for getting them to the NFC Championship game in spite of the previous coaches? I think it happens both ways and hopefully this Raiders coaching regime can do something with what they’ve inherited. I can’t really say I hate the hirings until I see what they do next season.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:36 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:34 am
B,
Trade Monta.
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Should of been traded a looooong time ago.
I’ll take Iggy for Monta.
Straight up!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:37 am
What the hell is Allen thinking? Manusky? What’s this guy ever done except get fired? What a horrible hire that would be. D was our biggest issue last year besides key injuries. Wow, suddenly I’m not so looking fwd to next season. Not terribly pumped about Knapp either but at least he had some success with Houston and dealing with a 3rd string QB and Johnson out for a good part of the year. Hell, you may as well just keep Chuckie B. if that’s the case
February 1st, 2012 at 9:37 am
I do wonder how multiple the Raiders intend to be. They’ll need to bring in a couple more pieces if they do intend on running more 3-4 looks than the Raiders traditionally have. The Raiders don’t even have a 4-3 1-tech type, much less a true NT. And outside of Wimbley, I don’t see any real option at rush linebacker on the roster.
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YA,
If Donatell ran a 4-3 Defense in Atlanta & Green Bay, less roster changes would be required. I think we’d be missing 2 or 3 starters if we switched to a 3-4 Defense (even on occassion) and who knows how some of our players will transition? I don’t want this to be another Rob Ryan type of situation trying to fit square pegs into round holes. However, if Reggie truly plans on “gutting” the roster … real change is coming
February 1st, 2012 at 9:39 am
Manusky is a Mike Nolan protege.
Last I checked, EVERYBODY wanted that dude to be our DC …
February 1st, 2012 at 9:40 am
A well-regarded teacher and communicator, Manusky developed the Chargers linebacking corps into one of the NFL’s stingiest units. They were part of a defense that finished the 2006 season ranked seventh against the rush and third in turnover margin with a plus-13 balance. The unit alone accounted for 43.5 of the defense’s 61 total regular season sacks.
In six years as a pro coach, Manusky has sent four players to the Pro Bowl, including San Diego’s Shawne Merriman in 2006, Donnie Edwards and Junior Seau with San Diego in 2002 and LaVar Arrington with Washington in 2001. Merriman, Arrington and Edwards all went to their first career Pro Bowls under Manusky’s tutelage.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:41 am
AMEN to that! that RAIDER MYSTIQUE slowly but surely will ge GONE, what MADE THE RAIDERS is that unlike the other 31 teams in the NFl, the Raiders have their own entity, whether its good or bad. Really Sad
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Silverandblack666 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:28 am
I am slowly starting to feel like this is no longer the Raider team we all grew up with and came to love.
Al being gone is a part of that sure but some things are making me scratch my head like Knapp?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:42 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:40 am
In six years as a pro coach, Manusky has sent four players to the Pro Bowl, including San Diego’s Shawne Merriman in 2006, Donnie Edwards and Junior Seau with San Diego in 2002 and LaVar Arrington with Washington in 2001. Merriman, Arrington and Edwards all went to their first career Pro Bowls under Manusky’s tutelage.
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Are any of those guys even still in the League??
February 1st, 2012 at 9:42 am
#558: That “some weird miracle” was Al realizing that JaJackass was a bum and cutting him loose.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:42 am
Manusky played in 113 consecutive games during his career. Following the 1991 season, he was selected to the All-Madden Team put together by Hall of Fame broadcaster and former coach, John Madden.
Manusky said the encouragement he received from his coaches during his playing days instilled in him the confidence to enter the coaching profession.
During my sixth year in the league, I played under Tony Dungy and Monty Kiffin in Minnesota. They were the first ones to say, ‘Hey, you’d be a pretty good coach.’ Manusky recalled. That’s the road I’ve traveled since. During the number of years that I spent in Kansas City and even in my past few years as a coach, I’ve continued to try and push myself and adopt the mindset of an offensive or defensive coordinator. I’ve been fortunate to have the opportunity to do that here in San Francisco.
After retiring from the NFL in 1999, Manusky spent the 2000 season as a volunteer at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ training camp where he worked with the linebackers and special teams. One year later, he accepted the job as linebackers coach with the Redskins.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:43 am
McKenzie on what impressed him about Dennis Allen: “His knowledge for the game. I had to get me a football… what I call a football guy. His total understanding of football, his vision. He understood the big picture, not just defense.
He understood the big picture as far as putting a plan together, how to do this, this and this… we went over everything. And how you treat people, how you treat players, getting a staff together. It was all right in line (with) the way I was thinking.
So we had a whole lot of like thoughts about football, the Raiders, players and his passion, his intensity and his drive, that was just icing on the cake.”
A good HC leads and makes his coordinators look like geniuses.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:43 am
RIP Al.
We miss you.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:44 am
Once a tough, hard-nosed NFL linebacker, Greg Manusky has since translated those qualities into a successful seven-year professional coaching career.
During his 12-year stay as a linebacker with Washington (1988-90), Minnesota (1991-93) and Kansas City (1994-99), Manusky was known as a tenacious workhorse. He said his passion for the game, and mental will to do anything necessary to make an impact on the team, carried him throughout his playing career
February 1st, 2012 at 9:45 am
When was the last time raiders had a pro bowler lb. Burgess?? Anybody … That positions was ignored for a decade.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:45 am
When I first saw this headline, it was very small on my Iphone. For a second, it looked like: “Stripper coming back, Sanduski interviewed.”
February 1st, 2012 at 9:46 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:45 am
When was the last time raiders had a pro bowler lb. Burgess?? Anybody … That positions was ignored for a decade.
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I thought Burgess played end for us
February 1st, 2012 at 9:46 am
Mcfadden already said that knapps offense does not fit his style. He made this comment when hue became OC which makes this knapp hire even more stupid. Allen is failing already. Lol at all blind ‘i will trust allen’ talk. Blow up the offense yeah great idea.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:46 am
Mike Nolan on Greg Manusky:
I found Greg to be a very good teacher, not only through our meeting, but also through talking with Dallas Cowboys Head Coach Wade Phillips and other league representatives about him, Nolan said.
He’s got great energy. His organizational skills were very impressive to me. I was very impressed with his ability to organize a staff and delegate the responsibilities. He has a very good plan and a very good thought process in putting those things together.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:47 am
Mcfadden already said that knapps offense does not fit his style. He made this comment when hue became OC which makes this knapp hire even more stupid..
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Link? Source?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:48 am
Too many people freaking out here to have a real discussion. Talk to ya soon, gents.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:48 am
LMAO @ 645!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:48 am
RaidO Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:46 am
Mcfadden already said that knapps offense does not fit his style. He made this comment when hue became OC which makes this knapp hire even more stupid. Allen is failing already. Lol at all blind ‘i will trust allen’ talk. Blow up the offense yeah great idea.
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You assume that DMC is in the plans for next year. Dont count out a trade.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:50 am
Definitely surprised by the Knapp hiring. While most of the problems on offense during his previous stint here were the result of terrible QB play (See Purple Drank as exhibit #1), he is a “west coast” guy and our personnel is more suited to a deep passing attack. Will Knapp adjust to our strengths or try to fit round pegs into square holes?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:50 am
647.RaidO Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:46 am
Mcfadden already said that knapps offense does not fit his style. He made this comment when hue became OC which makes this knapp hire even more stupid. Allen is failing already. Lol at all blind ‘i will trust allen’ talk. Blow up the offense yeah great idea.
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You’re right – Knapp’s offense does NOT fit McFadden’s style. McFadden’s style is run until you get injured, then spend the rest of the season on the shelf. I don’t like that style of offense!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:52 am
Can Kelly Skipper still suit up and play? We may need him!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:53 am
Positive Change…. For Once… http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/the-strength-of-our-team-is-now-in-good.html
February 1st, 2012 at 9:54 am
Is Darnell Dockett under contract?
I would luv to see him in a silver and black uni.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC,
No more pass rushing DTs/ UTs. We have Seymour, TK, Houston, and Dez is a RFA.
We need a NT.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:56 am
#657: There’s lots of good talent at DT and LB available in FA this year. We’ll definitely be taking a run at some of them.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:57 am
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC,
No more pass rushing DTs/ UTs. We have Seymour, TK, Houston, and Dez is a RFA.
We need a NT.
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Dockett is no TK.
Dude is solid all around. IMO
February 1st, 2012 at 9:58 am
Darnell Dockett = beast
Dockett > Ngata!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:58 am
Darnell Dockett = beast
Dockett > Ngata!
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We’re finally on the same page RR.
Cheers brother.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:01 am
Bring Rob Ryan back to play the nose!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:02 am
Darnell Dockett
9/1/2010: Signed a six-year, $56 million contract. The deal contains $30 million guaranteed, $28 million of which is guaranteed for both skill and injury. Dockett is eligible for annual $250,000 workout bonuses. 2011: $2.35 million (+ $15 million option bonus), 2012: $3.4 million, 2013: $4.45 million, 2014: $5.5 million, 2015: $6.55 million, 2016: Free Agent
February 1st, 2012 at 10:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:02 am
Darnell Dockett
9/1/2010: Signed a six-year, $56 million contract. The deal contains $30 million guaranteed, $28 million of which is guaranteed for both skill and injury. Dockett is eligible for annual $250,000 workout bonuses. 2011: $2.35 million (+ $15 million option bonus), 2012: $3.4 million, 2013: $4.45 million, 2014: $5.5 million, 2015: $6.55 million, 2016: Free Agent
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Well I guess we can scratch him off my wish list.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:03 am
Isnt Dockett an undertackle, one of those pass rushing DTs? haven’t we learned that those dudes cant stop the run? john randle,rod coleman, warren sapp, tommy kelly. good names that played here, yet never could stop the dammned run.
bring in a fat man to anchor the middle.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:03 am
666
February 1st, 2012 at 10:04 am
Just want to put out there that when Knapp was O coordinatorn in Oakland last time Lane Kiffin was calling the plays, not Knapp, so u can’t put all the blame on knapp. When he was OC for the niners in 01-03 they were ranked top 10 on offense all 3 yrs (4,8,5) with less offensove talent than the raiders have now. and with the falcons he was ranked #20,#12,#12 the years he was there where he had vick but nobody else on that team. And recently hes been coaching with the texans as qb coach and they have been a pretty high powered offense the last cpl years so hopefully he brings that to oakland. And manusky, is hes hired i dont think it will b that terrible. I mean think about when he coached the niners they had a top 15 defense his last three years the and their offense was terrible (not ranking above 23rd in offense any season he was there and having a ton of turnovers *ale smith). And even last yr when he got fired bc they were giving up a lot of points, waant philip fag boy rivers turning it over like 4 times a game when he got fired, hard to put up good defensive numbers when that happens in my personal opinion. I just think we should wait and see. I’m an optomist tho when it comes to te raiders. So i am still juiced for 2012 season
February 1st, 2012 at 10:05 am
Campbell is pretty stout 2. (cardinals)
I think he’s a FA.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:05 am
Ben Tate
7/29/2010: Signed a four-year, $3.337 million contract. The deal contains $1.58 million guaranteed. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
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Can we trade for this guy if Mike Bush wants a monster contract?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:06 am
NGRaiderfan Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:04 am
Just want to put out there that when Knapp was O coordinatorn in Oakland last time Lane Kiffin was calling the plays, not Knapp, so u can’t put all the blame on knapp. When he was OC for the niners in 01-03 they were ranked top 10 on offense all 3 yrs (4,8,5) with less offensove talent than the raiders have now. and with the falcons he was ranked #20,#12,#12 the years he was there where he had vick but nobody else on that team. And recently hes been coaching with the texans as qb coach and they have been a pretty high powered offense the last cpl years so hopefully he brings that to oakland. And manusky, is hes hired i dont think it will b that terrible. I mean think about when he coached the niners they had a top 15 defense his last three years the and their offense was terrible (not ranking above 23rd in offense any season he was there and having a ton of turnovers *ale smith). And even last yr when he got fired bc they were giving up a lot of points, waant philip fag boy rivers turning it over like 4 times a game when he got fired, hard to put up good defensive numbers when that happens in my personal opinion. I just think we should wait and see. I’m an optomist tho when it comes to te raiders. So i am still juiced for 2012 season
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That may be true, but what about when Cable stripped him from his playcalling?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:08 am
Offensive Coordinator Knapp Stripped of Play Calling Duties
November 11th, 2008 Matt Loede
The Raiders offense has been awful during parts of the 2008 season, and now the team is doing something about it, as offensive coordinator Greg Knapp has been stripped of the play calling duties according to the Oakland Tribune. Tom Cable, acting head coach, is taking over the duties, meaning that he is the third different coach to call offensive plays in Oakland in 08.
Reports say that Cable called the plays Sunday during the Raiders 17-6 loss at home to Carolina. The move likely was made quickly after the team put up just 77 yards and three first downs against the Falcons at home during a 24-0 loss two weeks ago.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:08 am
When you are the last one or so to pick a coach, that doesn’t leave too many assistant coaches out there except perhaps at college level or ones that were fired.
Maybe some great assistants is a dream of the future.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:09 am
Manusky > Bresh
That’s how I look at it. SF defense was 13th and 15th during his last 2 seasons there. Last season, they added Carlos Rodgers and he became a stud FA for them at CB, which was their biggest issue. Manu was there when they drafted those stud LB’s now. Stop panicking.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:10 am
qodrn1 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:08 am
When you are the last one or so to pick a coach, that doesn’t leave too many assistant coaches out there except perhaps at college level or ones that were fired.
Maybe some great assistants is a dream of the future.
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Thats what I was trying to say to people, but they kept saying RegGie was brain picking these other candidates.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:58 am
Darnell Dockett = beast
Dockett > Ngata!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I didn’t know they let you drink at work!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:11 am
I wouldn’t be mad at all w/ Manusky on board.
Allen/Manusky could be a nice combo on the D.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:11 am
Raiders denied by Dallas Cowboys… Asistant Head coach???
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4689879/cowboys-deny-raiders-permission-to-speak-with-joe-d
February 1st, 2012 at 10:12 am
a POS is > Bresh
February 1st, 2012 at 10:12 am
In case you missed it, there are new trainers afoot at Raider central.
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Im glad Brad got his ass Rolled up outta here!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Thec
What up homie
February 1st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Thank You Qodrn1….. Here is their full story…. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/the-strength-of-our-team-is-now-in-good.html
February 1st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Davis fired Kiffin 09/30/08
Cable decided to call his own plays before 11/09/08
Knapp was play caller for a total of 4 games in 2 years with the Raiders!
JaMarcus Russell was his starting QB in all 4 of those games and he went 1-3. FACTS
February 1st, 2012 at 10:15 am
Manusky > Bresh
That’s how I look at it. SF defense was 13th and 15th during his last 2 seasons there. Last season, they added Carlos Rodgers and he became a stud FA for them at CB, which was their biggest issue. Manu was there when they drafted those stud LB’s now. Stop panicking.
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Stepped into the dark side and read a dis-charger opinion of Manusky. The article breaks the Charger defenseive issues from game to game. Big problem raised was lack of CB play…
http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2012/1/17/2696253/was-greg-manusky-a-scapegoat
February 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am
I think DMAC will be fine w/ Knapp.
Lets remember that we had sorry ass Jasizzurp at QB.
Defenses were stacking the line of scrimmage all day!
I still think it would be a smart move for Allen to keep Wylie and Big Wiz.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am
DMAC Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Im glad Brad got his ass Rolled up outta here!
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hahahahahahahahahaha….In the running for post of the day…
All is well bruh, the new slap is tight…
February 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am
DMAC,
Skipper + Wylie + Wiz = continuity for McFadden
February 1st, 2012 at 10:18 am
Davis fired Kiffin 09/30/08
Cable decided to call his own plays before 11/09/08
Knapp was play caller for a total of 4 games in 2 years with the Raiders!
JaMarcus Russell was his starting QB in all 4 of those games and he went 1-3. FACTS
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Good points! Anybody look at Knapp’s tenure with the Seachickens? I remember that Hassleback getting killed and their big time playmakers of Housh and Branch were overated. Also no running game, Julius Jones…
February 1st, 2012 at 10:18 am
Mcfadden already said that knapps offense does not fit his style. He made this comment when hue became OC which makes this knapp hire even more stupid. Allen is failing already. Lol at all blind ‘i will trust allen’ talk. Blow up the offense yeah great idea.
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Dmac may not even be around next year. Who cares…
February 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am
What’s this “aasistant HC” stuff?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:20 am
Corkran, you have any intel on the Assistant HC position?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:21 am
Outside of that atlanta game, the offensive numbers looked pretty similar before and after he relieved him of Playcalling duties. That tells me it wasnt all the Playcalling. I mean loom at that teams roster, russell, a rookie mcfadden/bush combo, johnnie lee higgins our leasing wr? Our offensive line was garbage. Cmon man thats a completely different team. Im just sayin look what ue did when he had talent. We’ll never know until next season. In that atlanta game they got down by a lot early and had to put it in russells hands. Every raider fan knows what happened next. Just sayin.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:22 am
Thec…. John Greico is the assistant to Al Miller, the new Strength and Conditioning Coach
February 1st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Mcfadden already said that knapps offense does not fit his style. He made this comment when hue became OC which makes this knapp hire even more stupid. Allen is failing already. Lol at all blind ‘i will trust allen’ talk. Blow up the offense yeah great idea.
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LOVE DMAC but…..I sincerely hope Allen and RM arent planning our team around DMAC. Dude hasnt played an entire season yet in his nfl career.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:24 am
691.Thec Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am
What’s this “aasistant HC” stuff?
You know, the stuff that Winston Moss does! LOL
February 1st, 2012 at 10:25 am
@Dutch
2009: Knapp had Hasselbeck & Wallace at QB
Jones, Forsett & James at RB
Griffith & Schmitt at FB
Housh, Burleson, Branch & Butler at WR
Carlson & Owens at TE
Mare at K
Ryan at P
February 1st, 2012 at 10:27 am
Knapp lovers,
-Did you want Knapp before he was hired because I don’t remember a single post about hiring Knapp before he was hired?
-Why do you think Knapp will do better this time? Is it because Cable and JaBustus are gone?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:27 am
#Raiders confirm hiring of Greg Knapp as offensive coordinator. Al Saunders’ future uncertain.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:27 am
RaiderChaos Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:22 am
Thec…. John Greico is the assistant to Al Miller, the new Strength and Conditioning Coach
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Yeah I went to your blog, read the article and watched the video.
However, what I am talking about is that we were denied speaking to Joe DeCamill the special teams coordinator for dallas regarding our assistant HC position.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:24 am
691.Thec Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:19 am
What’s this “aasistant HC” stuff?
You know, the stuff that Winston Moss does! LOL
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hahahahahahaha…lol…Ok you got me on that 1…
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Thec, I think to get him here, an Assistant HC will be a promotion! Because it sounds like Allen wants him to run the ST!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:30 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Thec, I think to get him here, an Assistant HC will be a promotion! Because it sounds like Allen wants him to run the ST!
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Oh i get it. Its like in the movie Vegas, when Deniro gets the title of food and beverage chairman…Got it
February 1st, 2012 at 10:30 am
702.hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Thec, I think to get him here, an Assistant HC will be a promotion! Because it sounds like Allen wants him to run the ST!
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Positions coaches aren’t afforded the luxury of interviewing for other positions, even if it is a promotion and can be blocked by the current team
February 1st, 2012 at 10:31 am
Oh i get it. Its like in the movie Vegas, when Deniro gets the title of food and beverage chairman…Got it
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Bringing out the Casino references… lol
February 1st, 2012 at 10:32 am
Wow, these coaching hires are really a lot better than Al Davis’ coaching hires . . . how, exactly?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:32 am
R McKenzie was recommended by Madden and Wolf.
Allen is a young guy who is well respected in the NFL.
Knapp hasn’t had success since the whiners, and that offense was loaded.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:33 am
704.bcz24 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:30 am
702.hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Thec, I think to get him here, an Assistant HC will be a promotion! Because it sounds like Allen wants him to run the ST!
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Positions coaches aren’t afforded the luxury of interviewing for other positions, even if it is a promotion and can be blocked by the current team
I know…I think Allen was just reaching/trying
February 1st, 2012 at 10:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am
DMAC,
Skipper + Wylie + Wiz = continuity for McFadden
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I can dig it!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:35 am
Seattle’s O-Line allowed 41 sacks in ‘09
Offense ranked 21st in the NFL at 317 yards per game
Ranked 25th at 17.5 ppg
Ranked DEAD LAST in fumbles with 33 (12 lost)
QB’s threw 19 INT’s
February 1st, 2012 at 10:35 am
Bringing out the Casino references… lol
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thats one of my all time fav movies…
Dinero one of the best to ever do it IMO.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:36 am
time to evaporate…
1 NATION
February 1st, 2012 at 10:37 am
I don’t understand why you people are excited about Knapp. I’m trying to understand your positiin, but I don’t get it.
The guy hasn’t done anything in the last decade to earn this much respect.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:41 am
O,
see post #710
there is your ammo for the Knapp lovers
btw, I support the GK hire.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:42 am
You People complained that Al didn’t do well the last decade, but you are happy with an OC who was below avg (at best) the last decade?!!?!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:44 am
Gregg Knapp, eh?????
No way in heck you can use his last stint with the Raiders as an indicator one way or the other.
Weapons he was at QB and WR are LIGHT years ahead of what was here the last time.
I like Houston’s approach on offense the past few years.
Good hire!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:45 am
If we are gonna go W.Coast offense, couldnt we have at least taken a look at Mark Trestman? I’ve always remembered Trestmans offenses being able to move the ball, although I realize personnel makes a difference.
Additional issue is that we don’t have W.Coast off personnel. The players we have fit more into the Mike Martz, Ernie Zampese, Don Coryell’s type of offense.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:45 am
well, here it is once again Groundhog’s Day Eve with fans and trolls complaining about coaches, management, schemes, QBs, D-linemen, linebackers…just about anything Raider-related…except Darrius Heyward-Bey.
if DHB can make such positive strides in his career why can’t other players and maligned coaches do the same?
otherwise just cue up Sonny and Cher while fastforwarding to next year.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:46 am
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Employment in the nation’s private sector is improving at a moderate pace, with two years of job gains now on the books, according to a monthly labor-market report released Wednesday by payrolls-processor Automatic Data Processing Inc.
Nonfarm private employment rose 170,000 in January, marking the 24th consecutive month of gains, led by small businesses and the service-providing sector, according to ADP. In December, private employment rose 292,000, compared with a prior estimate of 325,000.
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Jan. 31, 2012, 8:56 p.m. EST
Romney trounces Gingrich in Florida primary
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Is it safe to say Jamista Clown has hanged himself?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:46 am
In terms of knapp i just think we need to look at his whole body of work, not jus the time he had in oakland when it was in its most disfunftional time of the franchise.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:46 am
I don’t understand why you people are excited about Knapp. I’m trying to understand your positiin, but I don’t get it.
The guy hasn’t done anything in the last decade to earn this much respect.
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Looking at Knapp’s past as an OC it looks kinda bleak for the team we have on paper, but could he actually have learned somthing under Kubiak? Texans have had a pretty dynamic offense and maybe the old dog has learned some trick…we can hope and pray.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:48 am
RR,
Thank you, but it’s not about ammo and winning a debate. I’m trying to understand your position (support for Knapp), but I can’t understand the logic behind it.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:48 am
J Heeeeezy!
What up?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:48 am
720.NGRaiderfan Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:46 am
In terms of knapp i just think we need to look at his whole body of work, not jus the time he had in oakland when it was in its most disfunftional time of the franchise.
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But Knapps offenses havent been halfway decent sense his 49er days.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:49 am
would Marc Trestman leave his post as HC of the Montreal Alouettes (CFL) to come be our QB Coach?
If so, I would be elated!
He has a 48-24 win/loss record there since 2008
February 1st, 2012 at 10:50 am
OCs are as good as the talent that is on the field.
Knapp had shyytte to work with his last stints as OC.
The position is not called miracle worker!
Like you mentioned, O …..
The last time Knapp had a talented roster with the 9rs, that team was pretty good.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:50 am
725.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:49 am
would Marc Trestman leave his post as HC of the Montreal Alouettes (CFL) to come be our QB Coach?
If so, I would be elated!
He has a 48-24 win/loss record there since 2008
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Maybe if we gave him an offer he would leave the CFL, to come back to the NFL?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Wassup DMac.
Trying to get caught up on the goinz own around hurr.
About to read the presser transcript.
What’s your thoughts on Allen and the potential assts?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:53 am
Look at his resume the last 10 years:
ATL
OAK (I agree that this wasn’t the best situation for any OC)
Seattle
TO blasted him on the SL, and he just had that dumb look on his face. That man is going to teach our offense discipline?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:56 am
Im not a knapp lover or hater. I want to see what he does with this talent that we have and then i’ll make my judgment on him. All this talk about the past and what offense is not relevant because nobody outside of knapp, allen, an mckenzie really know anything about it.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:56 am
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Wassup DMac.
Trying to get caught up on the goinz own around hurr.
About to read the presser transcript.
What’s your thoughts on Allen and the potential assts?
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I like Allen, but the Knapp hire was a head scratcher.
I wouldn’t mind Mausky though as our DC.
I like that we brought back Skip. Hopefully we retain Wylie and Big Wiz.
I’ll just have to kick back and see what Allen has in store for us.
I’m on the train bruh.
ALL ABOARD!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:57 am
J,
What about ATL? Vick is not good enough?
His teams don’t do well in the passing game, and he hasn’t has success since the Whiners. Was it him, was it the takent, or Mariucci? We don’t know, so you can’t give him credit for that. You are as good as your record/ resume, and his is below avg!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:57 am
hey guys, dont laugh.
I would consider John Shoop for QB Coach as well
OC of the North Carolina Tar Heels since 2007
February 1st, 2012 at 10:58 am
That man is going to teach our offense discipline?
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No, Allen is.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:58 am
That man is going to teach our offense discipline?
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Allen is the father, Knapp is the mother…
February 1st, 2012 at 10:58 am
Maybe if we gave him an offer he would leave the CFL, to come back to the NFL?
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He’s turned down more than a few interviews for HC gigs in the NFL… he ain’t coming back to be a position coach or coordinator.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:59 am
Mike Vicks teams in Atlanta never have any quality receivers.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:59 am
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:50 am
OCs are as good as the talent that is on the field.
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So was is your take on DC’s?
We didn’t have enough talent on the D?
Not Bres fault at all?
Etc
Etc
February 1st, 2012 at 11:00 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:58 am
That man is going to teach our offense discipline?
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Allen is the father, Knapp is the mother…
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Knapp is the stepson that no one wanted.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:01 am
For the record:
I love the Allen hire.
I am OK with the possibility of Manusky.
I hope Woodson, Wylie, Wiz stay on board.
I would have greatly preferred Saunders to Knapp and that hire scares me.
I do not want to trade Mcfadden.
I do anticipate big FA acquistions.
I am sad that Sterling Moore is no longer with the team (and said as much when he was first gone)
Here’s to hoping for a great 2012 season!
February 1st, 2012 at 11:02 am
If I was your financial advisor, and 10 years ago I had a great return of 20% (the market was doing better, and i was working for a different firm), but my avg since then is below avg 1-2%, would you keep me as your advisor?
February 1st, 2012 at 11:03 am
731.DMAC Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:56 am
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Wassup DMac.
Trying to get caught up on the goinz own around hurr.
About to read the presser transcript.
What’s your thoughts on Allen and the potential assts?
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I like Allen, but the Knapp hire was a head scratcher.
I wouldn’t mind Mausky though as our DC.
I like that we brought back Skip. Hopefully we retain Wylie and Big Wiz.
I’ll just have to kick back and see what Allen has in store for us.
I’m on the train bruh.
ALL ABOARD!
That is what I am gonna do also! Just wait and see what happens!
February 1st, 2012 at 11:03 am
I need some car insurance.
Who knows some cheap ones?
February 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:02 am
If I was your financial advisor, and 10 years ago I had a great return of 20% (the market was doing better, and i was working for a different firm), but my avg since then is below avg 1-2%, would you keep me as your advisor?
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Probably. 20% was significantly over the market rate at the time, and given market conditions over the last decade, 1-2%, while subpar, is still understandable – though I would question you thoroughly as to WHY the portfolio performed so poorly and make sure that while you advise me in my investing you did not continue to make the same mistakes.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am
No more excuses for knapp! There is no logic behind the blind support, and that’s your right as a fan (I respect that), so let’s move on.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am
DMAC Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:03 am
I need some car insurance.
Who knows some cheap ones?
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State Farm is best.
Geico is cheapest. (imo)
February 1st, 2012 at 11:06 am
sorry, in my experience, not imo
February 1st, 2012 at 11:06 am
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am
No more excuses for knapp! There is no logic behind the blind support, and that’s your right as a fan (I respect that), so let’s move on.
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O,
I think we need to kick back and see what happens.
Hopefully we add more talent to the team.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:06 am
Looks like me and Hwnrdr are more or less on the same page.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:06 am
RedneckRaider Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:05 am
DMAC Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:03 am
I need some car insurance.
Who knows some cheap ones?
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State Farm is best.
Geico is cheapest. (imo)
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Cool
I’ll check them out
February 1st, 2012 at 11:07 am
RR,
LOL
You are a nice guy.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:08 am
Hey O
You live in the LA area?
February 1st, 2012 at 11:09 am
If Allen is getting denied by Dallas for a ST coach…did he settle on hiring Manusky? Or is he just calling around tryna fill his staff?
February 1st, 2012 at 11:10 am
I agree that the raiders should not build the o around dmac. That is one of the main things that got them into trouble this season. The raiders main o force should be a potent passing attack. That is what wins super bowls. Not a run heavy o which is what knapp likes to run. Run. Run. Pass. Punt. Seems now a days you can get by with a mediocore run game. Its a pass happy league qb’s are breaking passing records.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:11 am
DMAC,
I’ll be watching Knapp like a hawk!
LOL
February 1st, 2012 at 11:11 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:09 am
If Allen is getting denied by Dallas for a ST coach…did he settle on hiring Manusky? Or is he just calling around tryna fill his staff?
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My guess, he was looking for a ST coach to replace Fassel and trying to sweeten the deal by offering an assistant HC title to an old friend with HC aspirations himself.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:11 am
Vick was a one man show in ATL who had yet to develop a consistant passing game.
I just think I could coach our offense with the weapons that are present. Don’t see it being that difficult.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:12 am
DMAC,
San Diego bro.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Full disclosure: I’m an AR Razorback fan… I want Mcfadden to retire a Raider.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:12 am
J
738???
February 1st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:12 am
DMAC,
San Diego bro.
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What the dispenseries looking like out there?
February 1st, 2012 at 11:14 am
O,
blind support ???
I’ve posted my reasons many times in many ways to many different semi pros. People are gonna beleive what they want to beleive
don’t think my opinions are crap just because you don’t agree with them. for all you know, I could be right!
You’re basing your opinions on Knapp from 2009. If you’re basing them off his previous OC stint in Oakland well frankly, you’re an idiot
February 1st, 2012 at 11:15 am
We didn’t have enough talent on the D?
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Nope!
Secondary was depleted all year due to injuries.
Groves started at OLB half the season.
CJ37 and Huff healthy all year = playoff defense.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:15 am
new post peeps
February 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am
DMAC,
It’s a good business, but there are a lot more restrictions and regulation than before.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am
DMAC when it comes to insurance I look for the company with the best commercials. Geico lost me when they went away from the cave man. These days I favor the magically appearing state farm agent who shows up after you sing that little jingle.
There’s some sound financial advice for you.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:17 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:16 am
DMAC when it comes to insurance I look for the company with the best commercials. Geico lost me when they went away from the cave man. These days I favor the magically appearing state farm agent who shows up after you sing that little jingle.
There’s some sound financial advice for you.
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Thanx bro
February 1st, 2012 at 11:18 am
new post
February 5th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
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