Fassel replacement hired; Saunders on the move
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, February 1st, 2012 at 6:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Dennis Allen once again is sticking within the AFC, with particular interest within the AFC West, when it comes to hiring assistant coaches.
Allen hired Steve Hoffman as the special teams coordinator today. That fills the vacancy created by the departure of John Fassel to the St. Louis Rams.
In other news, Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders has interviewed with the Kansas City Chiefs for their offensive coordinator opening. That indicates that Allen has no intention of retaining Saunders in any capacity — he already hired Greg Knapp to be the offensive coordinator — or Saunders isn’t interested in coming back in a lesser role than the one he filled in 2011.
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February 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Riaderzzzzz
February 1st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
nice spelling mamba !!! idiot
February 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Hello?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
With Ford fit an Moore and DHB & carson full camp etc man i think you would reconsider, Jacoby is electric, what would you want to pick up with a 3rd rounder?? just askin.
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Legit question, and I would say a full-time starter at a position of need (RT, OLB, DB) rather than a 3rd string player at a possession of strength.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Whats this Hoffman guy all about?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
what would you want to pick up with a 3rd rounder??
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NT, LG(Wiz to C), or a FS.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Nice, Thats why i ask ya JFB..
Pains me to think of drafting ANOTHER DB, considering Mcfadden,ware,DVD,Chekwa…..and Super Bowl player Sterling Moore… but it is a need.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Let’s just hope this new ST guy can teach our punt returners how to run up and fair catch a bad punt, rather than wave everyone off and watch a 41 yard punt roll into a 56 yarder.
I liked Bones, but that ish has been ridiculous for years now!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Hoffman knows how to teach kickers and punters how to kick & Punt, but has no clue about return game and blocking schemes! Another brilliant hire…is iot 2013 yet?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Realtruraider Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Whats this Hoffman guy all about?
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He’s gotta be an improvement over Fassel. Our coverage and return units sucked. The only good ST components we had were Lechler and Seabass, and they’re there no matter who is coaching them.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
TAKE A PRESSURE-WASHER TO THE PLACE..IT’S ALL GOOD.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
dont we need to improve on Kicking an punting…eerr yeah your right @9
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Im starting to wonder if any of these coaches we didn’t hire back even wanted to comeback.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
I wonder what Dallas would give us for Huff?
I think Branch should be far enough into his film study to take over the FS position. I think that addresses the need to upgrade the tackling on the backend.
Draft a tough SS with our comp pick.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
I wouldn’t be mad if we DIDN’T trade Jacoby, obviously when healthy he is a big-time, big-play guy (although I am not sure if he is an everydown player).
And if we had a full slate of picks, I probably wouldn’t consider it, unless an offer just blew us away.
But we have depth issues, no picks, and we need to move somebody, and we got some WR’s to play with.
I wouldn’t be suprised if we tried to package Murphy as well, but I think it would be the Kirk Morrison type trade, where we trade him to move up 20 picks.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Chiefs have had a great return averages the last two years, but that’s because Javier Arenas is a stud.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Darren McFadden
Carson Palmer
DHB
D Moore
Jacoby Ford
Marcell Reece
Kevin Boss
Ausberry
Taiwan Jones
And some of you are worried about our offense?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
SURELY…FOR GAWD SAKE, Jerome Boyd doesnt make another camp…..
February 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Was Hoffman the special team coach in KC or an assistant? How did we steal him or did they dump him?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Gosh, wonder why Crennell is interviewing Saunders? Doesn’t he realize that Hue was the genius behind the Raiders’ offense?
lol
February 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
@J HIll
Im more than satisfied, the NFL is full of injuries but if we could be spared just once for a consitent chunk of the season it would be scary…
February 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Realtruraider Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Was Hoffman the special team coach in KC or an assistant? How did we steal him or did they dump him?
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Dunno, but he’s been an ST guy for DECADES. His contract may have said he could leave whenever he wanted. Maybe we offered him more $$$, or maybe he wanted to live by the beach, or maybe…?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Darren McFadden
Carson Palmer
DHB
D Moore
Jacoby Ford
Marcell Reece
Kevin Boss
Ausberry
Taiwan Jones
And some of you are worried about our offense?
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Well sure….
Greg Knapp cancels out all of the above.
Right?……
February 1st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Gosh, wonder why Crennell is interviewing Saunders? Doesn’t he realize that Hue was the genius behind the Raiders’ offense?
lol
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That’s funny.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
If Saunders doesn’t get a OC gig he will be back.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Hue was a funny guy and he was right about one thing, there gutting this mofo, for better or for worse. we shall see.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Meanwhile, ol’ Wink Martindale was hired by the Ravens. SO, I guess we can count on all of their linebackers not named Ray Lewis completely sucking this year.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
If Saunders doesn’t get a OC gig he will be back.
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He’ll get the Chiefs job. And best of luck to him, too.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Duck is on a roll.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Realtruraider Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Hue was a funny guy and he was right about one thing, there gutting this mofo, for better or for worse. we shall see.
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With respect to the front office and coaching staff,
sometimes it’s just easier to knock down the old house and start over.
A remodel of an old structure that has massive issues is more costly and very inefficient.
Best to move out the occupants, bulldoze and start with a fresh set of blueprints.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Love Mark Davis to Get his hair to match Mckenzies, or visa versa…
February 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
With respect to the front office and coaching staff,
sometimes it’s just easier to knock down the old house and start over.
A remodel of an old structure that has massive issues is more costly and very inefficient.
Best to move out the occupants, bulldoze and start with a fresh set of blueprints.
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I wish they would apply that line of thinking to the Coliseum. Or Mausoleum, as Sal Bando used to call it.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Love Mark Davis to Get his hair to match Mckenzies, or visa versa…
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Either way would be hilarious.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
With respect to the front office and coaching staff,
sometimes it’s just easier to knock down the old house and start over.
A remodel of an old structure that has massive issues is more costly and very inefficient.
Best to move out the occupants, bulldoze and start with a fresh set of blueprints.
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I wish they would apply that line of thinking to the Coliseum. Or Mausoleum, as Sal Bando used to call it.
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No kidding.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Greg Knapp cancels out all of the above.
Right?……
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Ryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyght!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Greg Knapp cancels out all of the above.
Right?……
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Ryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyght!
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lol
Knapp will do fine with what’s in place.
He will have no excuses if those players are healthy and active.
Just a matter of finding the best match ups on any given Sunday.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Len,just like a new stadium,knock down the O,and build a NEW O,cmon Mark and Amy,get er DONE! Raiders!!!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Hendu Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Len,just like a new stadium,knock down the O,and build a NEW O,cmon Mark and Amy,get er DONE! Raiders!!!!!
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That would be the Best possible plan.
I hope Oakland can pull a stadium out of the hat.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
This place is full of Knappers.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
for the past few years we have all been saying (and everyone else around the league) that this team has the talent to go far.. if that is the case the problem is the coaching staff…i say give reggie a chance and good for him for doing what he wants to do and not what the owner is telling him to do..whats the worse that can happen?..we go 8-8 again?..like that was going to change with who we have coaching this “talented team” anyway..
February 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Blackmamba_20, #18
Blackmamba, we need Boyd, Jerome Boyd; he’s material cog in our “D”.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
This place is full of Knappers.
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You know how it goes O.
Winning cures all.
Knappers, anti Knappers…
It’ll be one big group hug when the Raiders win.
Might be a bit boring around these parts when it happens though. lol
February 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I hear you Len.
I’m not a fan of Knapp, and I’m disappointed with him as OC. I wanted proven coaches, or young talent on the rise.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I think D Allen was a good choice, and I understand a new HC wants his own people, but is Knapp the best we can do? I don’t think so.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I hear you Len.
I’m not a fan of Knapp, and I’m disappointed with him as OC. I wanted proven coaches, or young talent on the rise.
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I hear ya.
Knapp seemed uninspired, but I’m ok with it. He has talent to work with.
If He can’t put points on the board, he’ll be gone.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
41.Hardline Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Blackmamba_20, #18
Blackmamba, we need Boyd, Jerome Boyd; he’s material cog in our “D”.
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Lol, ok youve twisted my arm, bring him back…we need someone to cover that open field
February 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
He did well with the whiners (that team was loaded), and he hasn’t done anything special after that. That was a decade ago.
Same people Bashing Al for having a below avg team the last decade are the same people who are excited about Knapp.
What has he done the last decade to impress so many fans?
And please stop the “he gets a free pass due to Cable & JR”. What about ATL & Seattle?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Raider OOOOO,whats up? Keep the faith,Im not thrilled with some staff,but I will support them w/ season tickets.Cant but Hope the DC will excite,we will see. Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Len,
That’s the point. We are so close, we can win our division, and now we are going to rebuild the entire team.
I think the better choice would have been to keep the offense and the coaches (add a Few position coaches, etc..), and focus more and rebuild the defense.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Stop it already – all those talking about a new stadium. Previously, I elucidated irrevocably the reasons why the Raiders are out of the stadium game for a least 5 years: 1) 20 non-winning seasons out of the last 29, with 10 non-winning seasons out of the last 10; 2) Raiders are 31st in value of all NFL teams, including revenue raising per season; 3) Raiders are unable to sell out consistently for the past 10 seasons, except when they purchased their own tickets; 4) the reorganization of the club is only beginning with no certainty of success.
Keeping in mind that the average price of a colisium now costs $1.5B, and that most municipalities are insolvent, and that much of the financing must come through bond receipts or tax dollars, the chance that a serial losing, as yet dysfuntional team, has leverage enough to pull off a new stadium deal, is approximately 0%.
Remember, the first rule of economics, according to me, is that value seeks its own level. The scales are now tilted against the Raiders.
I pose the following question: if you were suddenly the CEO of a development company, a mayor, councilman or supervisor of a suitable jurisdiction, would you vote to build the Raiders a new stadium? highly doubtful, unless you wanted to be greeted by a citizentry group wielding ax handles and tar and feathers. Also, the public in the past 5 years has rejected taxpayer infused stadium projects using public monies.
Mark was very disappointing at his first press conference with Reggie when he claimed his first order of business will be negotiate a new stadium deal, showing his inexperience and facile reasoning.
I say this: dream on pal, take another bong hit freckle face, because you will have a new stadium when pigs fly. Until you bring in 4 to 5 AFC Championships, and several Superbowls no one will listen at all. That is the way big money is.
Finally, if the transistion and reorganization doesn’t result in progress toward dynasty very quickly, the Raiders will be playing at a high school football field, like Kezar Stadium used to be.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Blackmamba_20, #46
Blackmamba, we need Lito, Lito Shepard, back too !!!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
50,says who? hardline,wtf
February 1st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
they talk about how knapp is a good qb coach. he took a no name qb (yates) and they made it to the play-offs. i get the impression he may be grooming pryor(he is our back-up). knapp does know the west coast offense. i think he was limited his first round in oakland.
the west coast offense is pretty much the same league round. it’s whether or not knapp can scheme and make adjustments during games .
February 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Len,
That’s the point. We are so close, we can win our division, and now we are going to rebuild the entire team.
I think the better choice would have been to keep the offense and the coaches (add a Few position coaches, etc..), and focus more and rebuild the defense.
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I understand your point of view, but I’d reserve judgment until we actually see what happens on the field.
Ownership and management often times have a different view than the workers/fans.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Hendu, # 52,
look and postings 34, 37, 38. there are other postings under this article too.
I am just sick and tired of all the new stadium talk; it’s not going to happen anytime soon, Hendu.
Because big AL died and the stage is set (supposedly) for the reorganization, most seem to think a new stadium is in the works: ridiculous !
February 1st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
hardline is a crack smoker- stadium sits in LA or Santa clara already without taxpayers-not to mention asia money may come to O town!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Because big AL died and the stage is set (supposedly) for the reorganization, most seem to think a new stadium is in the works: ridiculous !
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Speaking only for myself, I’ve not heard or read of any evidence that suggests a Stadium is “in the works”
Only speculation, and what if’s.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Mikeschoice, #56,
Wrong Mike. Stadiums have been talked about in LA (I live in LA) and Santa Clara for years and years now, but you won’t see the Raiders moving anytime soon.
Me a crack-smoker? never tried it. I don’t do drugs, nor do I drink.
The 49′ers may get a new stadium in Santa Clara, but the club will need to win more divisions, and a Superbowl, before that happens.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah: new stadium talk regarding the 49′ers and Raiders is cheap. I haven’t seen a ground breaking yet.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
i always thought our wr’s ran to long of routes. everyone knew this. our offense was predictable. defenses would always have safety help because our receivers would run deep paterns. every team goes deep. even west coast offenses throw deep. pose the threat with the shorter pass. then we hit-em deep.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RaiderLen, #57,
That’s right Len; you are a wise man.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
rif: reading is fundamental !
February 1st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
stadium proposals in LA asking for tax $$$?
February 1st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Mark Davis looks like Lloyd Christmas
“Pull over you pumpkin pied hair cutted freak”
“No it’s a cardigan,but thanks for noticing”
“Ya, killer boots man”
February 1st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
realtruraider Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Im starting to wonder if any of these coaches we didn’t hire back even wanted to comeback.
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Dude, no sh!t….Getting sketchy around here.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Gosh, wonder why Crennell is interviewing Saunders? Doesn’t he realize that Hue was the genius behind the Raiders’ offense?
lol
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That’s funny.
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I wish I thought that was funny…It makes me sick.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
He did well with the whiners (that team was loaded), and he hasn’t done anything special after that. That was a decade ago.
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Dude he is the Quarterback Coach on a team that has been ranked 3rd or 4th in the league in total offense for the last two years in a row. What you are thinking is he didn’t have anything to do with that success. You might want to rethink that.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
mikeschoice Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
stadium proposals in LA asking for tax $$$?
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Ed Roski is putting the LA taxpayers up to build a stadium, and then he gets part or all of the franchise. Sure. So Roski himself gets part or all of a team for little or no investment. No one is going to fall for that. Unless he gets the shareholder list from Bernie Madoff.
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
[...] Now he’ll get the chance to impress in St. Louis where he’ll join Jeff Fisher’s staff. Taking over for Fassel will be Steve [...]
February 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I luv the WIZ is staying… but not to thrilled Sanders is going… I am not to up about this new HC… I hope I’m wrong!!!
Nice self deprecation Mamba… Very cool:) Never taking oneself to serious is a key to a happier life!
Go RAIDERS my friend Go RAIDERS IN DEED!!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
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