Raiders interested in Packers assistant

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, February 1st, 2012 at 11:06 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders reportedly have requested permission to speak with Green Bay Packers cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt Jr. about the Raiders defensive coordinator vacancy.
Whitt Jr., 33, has spent the past four years with the Packers and worked with new Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie during that time.
NFL.com says the Raiders have asked the Packers for permission to let coach Dennis Allen interview Whitt Jr. Allen is seeking a replacement for Chuck Bresnahan.
The Packers have the right to deny the Raiders permission, given the position Whitt Jr. would interview for is not a head coaching job. Whitt Jr. also was with the Atlanta Falcons, in 2007. He coached in the college ranks for five years before signing with the Falcons.

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realtruraider

That doesn’t mean the Texans won’t make every effort to retain the foursome, but they’re already up against the salary cap with Mario Williams and Arian Foster as the top priorities. Myers was arguably the top center in the NFL in 2011, though he’s a purely a fit for zone-blocking teams.

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Interesting, some in here seem to think it doesn’t matter what scheme you use because everybody uses both.

Well it sure does matter when you have to draft or sign certain types of players to play in a ZBS or a power, so it is kind of a big deal, NO?
DutchRaider77

So really RT is the only real position of need?
Dakota

Watched Branch look lost and miss tackles for his first few years, now he just happens to have a decent year in his contract year?

Offer him an average contract for a SS, if he passes, then watch him go disappoint some other team with a huge contract.
YoungAmerican

DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm

So really RT is the only real position of need?

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Yep. Same as before.

Barksdale and Campbell will both get a shot at the job in camp.
DennisAllensVisor

Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Watched Branch look lost and miss tackles for his first few years, now he just happens to have a decent year in his contract year?

Offer him an average contract for a SS, if he passes, then watch him go disappoint some other team with a huge contract.

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He’s put together 2 good seasons back 2 back.

Letting him leave would make an already shaky secondary even shakier.
RaiderWeaponX

Just Fire Baby Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Sign Branch as a kickoff return specialist and then sign a REAL SS to play on defense.

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Another classic Hue-ism.

Put a guy back there, than claim you had no idea he was that good, than talk about how great he is all the next week, and than never use him again.

Awesome.

Addition by subtraction.

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Example of mis-information.

Foolish to risk the leading tackler and best defensive player on your sagging defense returning kicks full time when Moore or Ford was coming back.
lefty12

McFadden was injured(turf toe) Sept. 14 of his rookie year.Maybe they should have played him hurt instead of protecting him for the future.It seems he is always going to be injured anyway.
edward teach

Veldheer, Satele, Carlisle, Barnes. All on the roster when we last had ZBS as our primary scheme.

Heyer played for the Rat for two years in Washington. Wisniewski and Barksdale are entering their second year in the league. Even if they didn’t run SOME zone in college (doubtful) they are still quite coachable in the scheme.

Roster overhaul? Don’t think so.
Just Fire Baby

Foolish to risk the leading tackler and best defensive player on your sagging defense returning kicks full time when Moore or Ford was coming back.

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Agree 110%.

But our former HC felt the need to think he was the coolest dude around and could just schlepp off a bunch of nonsense to the media and the fans.
realtruraider

Well then you’d know the reason Fargas played over McFadden was due to the fact McFadden was INJURED-HE COULDN’T PLAY.

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C’MON MAN, Everybody knows Cable had a hard on for Fargas, thats why Fargas started, almost everybody I knew would btch about Cable starting Fargas over DMC, what you can’t remember? Now do you, OK? NEXT
DutchRaider77

I know Branch was a former CB, but do you think it is fair to expect your SS to match up against a #1, #2 or a really good #3 receiver in man coverage?
RaiderRockstar

Tyvon Branch is excellent in run support, but our run defense sucks.

He’s excellent in coverage, but our secondary gave up 60 TD passes the past two seasons.

how much are we gonna offer this guy, again?
RaiderRockstar

I’m with Dakota.

buyer beware with Bush and Branch
DutchRaider77

Tyvon Branch is excellent in run support, but our run defense sucks.

He’s excellent in coverage, but our secondary gave up 60 TD passes the past two seasons.

how much are we gonna offer this guy, again?

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I know, I know, but Branch is AWESOME in Madden!
Dakota

612.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Tyvon Branch is excellent in run support, but our run defense sucks.

He’s excellent in coverage, but our secondary gave up 60 TD passes the past two seasons.

how much are we gonna offer this guy, again?

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The dude is waaaaay overrated. Can’t count the number of times I saw him near a TD in the end zone with a clueless look on his face, or watched him get juked out of his jock on a big run play over the years.

Huff can go too. What good is a safety who can only cover TEs?

bye bye losers!
RaiderRockstar

Mike Bush = Natrone Means
DennisAllensVisor

RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Tyvon Branch is excellent in run support, but our run defense sucks.

He’s excellent in coverage, but our secondary gave up 60 TD passes the past two seasons.

how much are we gonna offer this guy, again?

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By that logic you wouldnt want Charles Woodson, because the Packers were dead last in defense.
RaiderSam

Manusky going to the Colts…so he’s out. Guess he felt better about his chances with Chuck Pagano.

“New Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie knows Whitt from their time together in Green Bay, where the 33-year-old rising position coach has helped develop former undrafted free agent cornerbacks Tramon Williams and Sam Shields into starters. The Packers, however, can opt to decline Oakland’s request to interview Whitt because the promotion offered does not involve a head-coaching job.

Whitt has been on the Packers’ staff since 2008. In Oakland, Whitt would answer to defensive-minded new head coach Dennis Allen.”
Source; Pro Football Talk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis The Realist Dirty Raccoon

DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
An emphasis on zone blocking would help Wisniewski stick at LG, and would better cater to Satele and Carlisle’s strengths.

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Also make it easy on a young tackle..

Might also negate us from having to get a big FA o-lineman..

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If we get Myers from Houston we can play the best LG, C, RG combo between:
Wiz
Satelelele
Coop
Myers
Barks

Best 3 win a starting spot the other two are depth. Draft a RT, it will be the only concern. Maybe Barks or Campbell can win the job.
RaiderRockstar

I know, I know, but Branch is AWESOME in Madden!

The dude is waaaaay overrated. Can’t count the number of times I saw him near a TD in the end zone with a clueless look on his face, or watched him get juked out of his jock on a big run play over the years.

Huff can go too. What good is a safety who can only cover TEs?

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Jhill is a film junkie and I remember the season before last (under Marshall) he pointed out TB being downright atrocious against both the run AND pass

Chuck B made him a player ???
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
anybody hear about the pink goo in McDonalds hamburgers?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/02/02/12/mcdonalds-drops-use-pink-slime-hamburger-meat
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I’m surprised our dictatorial government allowed this. (not)
DutchRaider77

@Rockstar
Who would you like as the #2 back?

Also, how many runningbacks should we carry?

4, Also I do not count Rock….
RaiderSam

Branch might be a priority to bring back – he’ll be offered a pretty big sum if he’s franchised, then we’d risk losing Bush.

“The Raiders are expected to place a priority on re-signing free agent SS Tyvon Branch.
Branch led the team with 109 tackles, excelling in run support while holding his own in coverage. New coach Dennis Allen comes from the Gregg Williams school of blitzing, so Branch’s role could be expanded if the Raiders are successful in bringing him back”
Source; Rotoworld
DennisAllensVisor

For the money IDK if Myers is worth it thought.. Is he gonna be that much of an upgrade.
RaiderRockstar

By that logic you wouldnt want Charles Woodson, because the Packers were dead last in defense

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Agreed. C-Wood is overrated and long in the tooth!
RaiderSam

KoolKell Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
anybody hear about the pink goo in McDonalds hamburgers?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/02/02/12/mcdonalds-drops-use-pink-slime-hamburger-meat
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I’m surprised our dictatorial government allowed this. (not)

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I’m lovin it! (ugh)
YoungAmerican

Interesting, some in here seem to think it doesn’t matter what scheme you use because everybody uses both.

Well it sure does matter when you have to draft or sign certain types of players to play in a ZBS or a power, so it is kind of a big deal, NO?

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It’s not that it doesn’t matter. It’s that one isn’t inherently better than the other, and that most teams use both. Some teams lean heavily one way or another. Ravens are known to emphasize power blocking, Texans zone, etc..

Like with ANY position in the NFL, certain players excel at different things. With the offensive line, some players are better in space. Some players are better in a phone booth. Some players get to the second level quickly, others don’t. The key is identifying what a player is good at and then putting him in a position to use the strengths of his skill set.

With the Raiders, their linemen tend to be more athletic. Satele and Carlisle are along the lines of Myers and Brisiel. If the emphasis was on power blocking, Wisniewski’s best position would be C. With more emphasis on zone blocking, he’d be fit at either C or OG.
DennisAllensVisor

RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
By that logic you wouldnt want Charles Woodson, because the Packers were dead last in defense

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Agreed. C-Wood is overrated and long in the tooth!

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Zzzz..
http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

JFB…

Sweet, company picking up the tab…

I’ve takin a cab or five from ONT.. All those dudes think they’re trying out for NASCAR.. You just might have a helluva a ride down to Temecula..Pull that belt tight, and hang on….
RaiderLen

Just Fire Baby Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Barksdale at RG or RT
The other RT-RG???

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Savage Carlisle is firmly entrenched as our RG.
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If you were to incorporate a gay lisp in this statement it would have greater affect. lol
RaiderSam

Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Watched Branch look lost and miss tackles for his first few years, now he just happens to have a decent year in his contract year?

Offer him an average contract for a SS, if he passes, then watch him go disappoint some other team with a huge contract.
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also 109 tackles mean the linebackers or dt’s werent getting stops, and Branch was making tackles when the opposing team had a first down – its the tackles for loss category thats the main one.
Master Beeecham

SamBorg, the Raider blog Star Trek dweebo is back!

Brah, try not to have an all out NERD MELTDOWN this time where you start talking Clingon and tinkling your sweat pants.

Remember how embarrassing that was for you last time? Although we all had a sweet laugh at your gnarly crash and burn!

Speaking of smackdowns, there was this one Star Trek tool bag I used to pour my Kearns on at AM/PM back in the day.

Sure, it was a waste of $1.85, but you can’t put a price tag on joy.

HOLLA!
edward teach

I actually like the Whitt idea for DC. Yes, he’s young, but it’s not like he’s running the D on his own.

He also had a pretty big hand in developing GB’s young corners and could be a big help with DVD’s and Chekwa’s growth as NFL players.

Also, if things go well he could be here for more than a couple of years. Teams probably won’t start looking at a guy to be their HC unntil he’s in at least his late 30′s. There are exceptions of course, and obviously I’m projecting a little, but it is important to look beyond just this next season or two.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

dont see what al of the whining about saunders is about. It isnt like the stop gap qb played well in that system, in fact he flat out stunk up the joint. Why not start fresh, under a new coach, and give mr stop gap a chance to redeem himself. Maybe he can play better in knapps system than he did under hu jack and suanders, although thats is difficult for me to see actually happening.
r8eray

It’s confirmed….9ers are getting a new stadium and are moving to Santa Clara in 2015!!

WTF….NFL is also funding them with $$??
Silverandblack666

“Realtruraider”

The post clearly states GAMES STARTED not GAMES PLAYED.

Why is that so hard for you to deal with its plain as can be written in English.
YoungAmerican

@CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Raiders hire Justin Griffith as offensive quality control coach. Eric Sanders returns as defensive quality control coach.
qodrn1

from the Raider web site:

The Oakland Raiders have added seven coaches to the 2012 coaching staff, including three assistants who were with the Silver and Black last season.
The Oakland Raiders have added seven coaches to the 2012 coaching staff, including three assistants who were with the Silver and Black last season.

Kelly Skipper returns for his sixth season with the Raiders and his fourth as running backs coach, while Frank Pollack joins the Silver and Black as offensive line coach. Steve Wisniewski will serve as assistant offensive line coach after spending last season in the same capacity, while Al Miller joins the staff as strength and conditioning coach and will be assisted by John Grieco. Defensive quality control coach Eric Sanders returns to the Raiders for his third season, while former Raiders fullback Justin Griffith assumes offensive quality control duties.

Skipper, who tutored tight ends for the Raiders for two years before taking over running back duties in 2009, oversaw a unit that ranked seventh in the NFL in rushing last season with an average of 131.9 yards per game. In 2010, the Silver and Black’s running game ranked second in the league in rushing (155.9 ypg.) and set a franchise record by averaging 4.9 yards per rushing attempt. The Brawley, Calif.-native joined the Raiders after coaching in numerous capacities at Washington State (2003-06), UCLA (1998-02) and his alma mater, Fresno State (1989-97).

Pollack comes to the Raiders after five years (2007-11) as the assistant offensive line coach for the Houston Texans. He helped tutor a unit that enabled the Texans to rank second in the NFL with a franchise-record 153 rushing yards per game last season. Pollack, who played nine years in the NFL with San Francisco and Denver, began his coaching career at Northern Arizona (2005-06).

Wisniewski returns for his second season on the Silver and Black’s coaching staff after helping the Raiders offensive line lead a potent rushing attack in 2011. He joined the staff after spending the 2010 season as strength and conditioning intern at Stanford. Wisniewski earned eight Pro Bowl selections and was named to the NFL’s All-Decade Team for the 1990s during his 13-year playing career with the Raiders.

A member of the USA Strength and Conditioning Hall of Fame, Miller brings two decades of NFL coaching experience to the Silver and Black, having previously coached for the Atlanta Falcons (1997-05), New York Giants (1993-96) and Denver Broncos (1985-92). Miller, who began his coaching career at Mississippi State in 1980, also served in a strength and conditioning capacity at Northwest Louisiana (1981) and under legendary coach Paul “Bear” Bryant at Alabama (1982-85).

Grieco comes to the Raider staff after serving as head strength and conditioning coach at the University of Louisiana at Monroe for two years. While at ULM, Grieco was named the top strength and conditioning coach in the nation by the Professional Football Strength and Conditioning Coaches Society. Previously, Grieco oversaw the strength and conditioning efforts for 17 varsity programs at UNLV for four years.

Sanders returns for his third season with the Raiders and first as defensive quality control coach. A native of San Francisco, Sanders was an offensive assistant on the Raiders coaching staff for two years (2010-11).

Griffith, who played in 96 career games over seven pro seasons, begins his first season on an NFL coaching staff. Griffith played two years for the Raiders (2007-08), playing in 23 games with 14 starts.
DutchRaider77

@Master Beeecham
You haven’t shared your Super Bowl party plans yet!

Suggestion: Get your laies to cover themselves in bean dip and walk around with a plate of chips…somthing to start with.
RaiderRockstar

Who would you like as the #2 back?

Also, how many runningbacks should we carry?

4, Also I do not count Rock….

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@Dutch

the ZBS is very RB friendly. If DMAC only plays 8 games we would do fine with Jones, Miller & Rankin back there

the O-Line performance & a devastating FB is way more crucial to our success in running the rock imo
qodrn1

Also, an ESPN “insider” is posting the Payton has been cleared to play.
http://raiders.com Albert

CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Raiders hire Justin Griffith as offensive quality control coach. Eric Sanders returns as defensive quality control coach.
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Curious that they would retain the defensive quality control guy since there was absolutely no quality to be found in the Raider defense last season.
RaiderLen

Edward Teach Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I actually like the Whitt idea for DC. Yes, he’s young, but it’s not like he’s running the D on his own.

He also had a pretty big hand in developing GB’s young corners and could be a big help with DVD’s and Chekwa’s growth as NFL players.

Also, if things go well he could be here for more than a couple of years. Teams probably won’t start looking at a guy to be their HC unntil he’s in at least his late 30’s. There are exceptions of course, and obviously I’m projecting a little, but it is important to look beyond just this next season or two.
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Co signed.

Could be great for longer term success.
RaiderRockstar

Raiders hire Justin Griffith as offensive quality control coach. Eric Sanders returns as defensive quality control coach

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suhweet!
YoungAmerican

Terrance Ganaway and Isaiah Pead will be targets for the Raiders in the draft. I like Ganaway a lot, big guy with speed.
RaiderLen

R8eray Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
It’s confirmed….9ers are getting a new stadium and are moving to Santa Clara in 2015!!

WTF….NFL is also funding them with $$??
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200 mil which is probably 20 to 25% of the actual cost.

Raiders should get in on that action and get the NFL to foot another 200 mil.
Silverandblack666

Repost for those who cant read well:

GAMES STARTED and I included GAMES PLAYED which are two very different categories that most of us can easily disseminate between.

Look at the numbers:

In the last 4 years Frank Gore has started:

2011 15 games played in 16
2010 11 games played in 11
2009 14 games played in 14
2008 14 games played in 14

McFadden Games Started vs played in

2011 7 games Started 7 games Played in
2010 13 games Stared 13 games played in
2009 8 games Stared 12 games played in
2008 5 games stared 13 games played in

Does that help you out a little there guy who cant tell the difference?
DennisAllensVisor

Albert Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Raiders hire Justin Griffith as offensive quality control coach. Eric Sanders returns as defensive quality control coach.
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Curious that they would retain the defensive quality control guy since there was absolutely no quality to be found in the Raider defense last season.

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He was on offense the past 2 years..
RaiderLen

It’s a loan by the way.
edward teach

642.Albert Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Raiders hire Justin Griffith as offensive quality control coach. Eric Sanders returns as defensive quality control coach.
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Curious that they would retain the defensive quality control guy since there was absolutely no quality to be found in the Raider defense last season.

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Lol. Probably felt bad that he couldn’t find any and volunteered to work for free this year if they would just let him keep looking.

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