Wisniewski retained on Allen’s staff
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, February 1st, 2012 at 7:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Not sure how the responsibilities will break down with offensive line hire Frank Pollack, but the Raiders have retained the services of assistant line coach Steve Wisniewski.
Both Pollack and Allen were assistant line coaches last season, Pollack under John Benton and Wisniewski under Bob Wylie.
Pollack was a tackle as an NFL player, Wisniewski a guard. Haven’t heard whether they’ll be co-line coaches or if there will be a line coach and an assistant.
The Raiders had co-line coaches one time in 2006 under Art Shell and it was a disaster, with Irv Eatman and Jackie Slater essentially taking their cue from Shell.
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February 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
uno
February 1st, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Booya!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
dos
February 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Len,
That’s the point. We are so close, we can win our division, and now we are going to rebuild the entire team.
I think the better choice would have been to keep the offense and the coaches (add a Few position coaches, etc..), and focus more and rebuild the defense.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Announcement for DC should be coming soon.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Raider O, you don’t know sh*t!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
cool
February 1st, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Kelly Skipper and original Wiz! Now that’s continuity.
Actually I’m happy for them both.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Hendu,
Good evening my brother.
I will always support My Raiders, but like you said: I’m not thrilled with some of the staff.
RAIDERS
February 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Albert,
I know you are RMR, Sully44, and I know you like your cousin and your aunt. I also know that you are a troll.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Oh well…DC then his assistants is left right?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Albert,
I know you are RMR, Sully44, and I know you like your cousin and your aunt. I also know that you are a troll.
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I am not MR. And, you still don’t know sh*t.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Well that makes me feel alittle better. But whats pollacks history? Is it a good one or bad. Bob wylie was good for this line. Maybe the rams will take him and saunders will get the KC job. Im guessing our DC will be Manusky since he is the only one we interviewed. No word on us interviewing Donatell?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
With the exception of Skipper, this coaching staff is looking pretty white so far.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Hwnrdr,seems that way.Hope its NOT a retread!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
say hello to your new Oakland Donks….
February 1st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
That’s good news.Does that mean no ZBS.thanks for the report,
Can you fill us in on Steve Hoffman, new special teams coach.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Hendu Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Hwnrdr,seems that way.Hope its NOT a retread!
What’s up Hendu? I know…Any word on Donatell, his name and Manusky’s was said to have been thrown around out there…?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Anybody know if the Giants or cheatriots have some one the Raiders might look at,for DC?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:56 pm
4 posts in 1 day, Jer and Cork keepin’ the nation fed.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:57 pm
why do you think its not zbs? That is exactly what the texans ran…
February 1st, 2012 at 7:57 pm
i want donatel
February 1st, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Albert Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
With the exception of Skipper, this coaching staff is looking pretty white so far.
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Who cares? All that matter is whether they can do the job.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
HWNRDR POST-11,WITCH WAY U GOING,LEFT OR RIGHT MY FRIEND ?
February 1st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Good question, Hendu! Do you think he’s going after Perry Fewell? or another Giants D-Line coach? Not sure who he would be looking at for NE…
February 1st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Great news!
February 1st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
HWNRDR POST-11,WITCH WAY U GOING,LEFT OR RIGHT MY FRIEND ?
Good one! I’ll say up the middle!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
I guess Wiz will be the assistant O-line Coach. It will give him a chance to learn some ZBS.
I’m glad they kept him.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Raider Nation-Station
Hawt!~ 02-01-12: CAMPBELL STAYS PALMER GOES?!
Thats the hot new rumor. Thing is, with Oakland you never really know…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle
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WTH?!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
14. Ricochet race baiting AGAIN.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
HE RAIDERS 2012 SEASON: A POST-MORTEM
It’s hard to believe that the groundhog hasn’t yet ventured out of his winter home, yet, the Raiders 2012 season is all but lost! It is understandable that fans would be tempted to try and reconstruct what has transpired and wonder “what went wrong?” How could a season filled with so much promise be over before it has even begun? Our inquiry of course, takes us back to the beginning, the early off-season.
That first week of January was filled with so much promise. Finally, the Raiders would get a GM with real power, and a coach who could choose his own assistants. Back then, the sky was the limit. Super Bowl? heck, yeah! Reggie McKenzie seemed like the guy with the right pedigree, he was part the Ron Wolf management tree, a former Raider. But then, it all started to go horribly wrong. In his first presser Reggie used the word “irregardless”. The bullies of the Corkran blog understandably blew up. How the heck can a man have an eye for football talent if he shows so much irregard for the English language? Reggie could see he was out of his grammatical depth. In order to obfuscate his verbal shortcomings and realizing that they would prevent any proven coach from coming aboard, he reached and chose a coach who had no ties to the silver & black and probably thinks “The Ghost to the Post” is a blogging term for a guy who kicks the bucket while venting his spleen on Corkran blog site.
Dennis Allen, in his first presser failed the first test of a Raider head coach. He wore a black & white tie to the event; not a black & silver tie. Huejack never would have made such an obvious sartorial blunder. Heck, Big Al never would have let him on the stage. You had to wonder if the thing was a clip on.
Just when it seemed like the season couldn’t move any further off course, Allen sealed the team’s fate by hiring Greg Knapp as its new offensive coordinator. Fans shrewdly and quickly came to the only plausible conclusion: that the team would be completely re-built to suit a zone blocking system and the west coast offense. What else could it mean? This offensive scheming stuff is complicated!! Ever tried to enrich uranium? Then, you know what I’m talking about. How could, or would a guy like Knapp be able to run anything other than what he had in the past? Even if his team was drafted for a completely different scheme, it was clear he going to jam a round peg in a square hole. Somebody stop him!! But it was too late, there was no going back. Fans were left to look ahead to 2013 and hope for better days.
Many players when asked about these moves agreed that there wasn’t much hope. Some candidly mused to the press “What is the point? Why continue this charade, that this team can accomplish anything?” Like Sisyphus condemned to roll the rock up the hill for eternity, they faced the existential crisis of going through the motions, showing up for the Spring OTAs, training camp and finally, a season devoid of any hope. Why risk injury? Better to save it for 2013 when the lessons of 2012 could be addressed. To a man, they all agreed with the proverbial words of Al Davis; that the greatness of the Raiders is in its future!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Was Wizzer the reason our O line improved at the beginning of the year? maybe partly.
A healthy DMC made those guys look GOOD.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Albert is not Rich (i dont think). That guy had some good posts, but this guy is ignorant.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
I don’t think the Giants will allow us to interview him. Do you know if he is still under contract after this season.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Hwnrdr,HAHA,good comeback,up the middle!Im not sure if we can get Fewell,hope so!For the ne tuckers,maybe someone they are lookin at,gotta be better than chucky B
February 1st, 2012 at 8:09 pm
29.I would not like the idea of Saunders to KC and Campbell playing QB for Denver…
February 1st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Loved Wiz as a player growing up and like him as coach too. Good move Mr DA
February 1st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
The house cleaning has begun. Cleaned out the offensive staff…which was overrated..and a new DC with a slew of assistants will be on board.
Then the free agency period begins….there will be more house cleaning.
Keep on cleaning house Reggie!
Only way to fix this mess is to start with a new staff and then remove those players not getting it done
February 1st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
The house cleaning has begun. Cleaned out the offensive staff…which was overrated..and a new DC with a slew of assistants will be on board.
Then the free agency period begins….there will be more house cleaning.
Keep on cleaning house Reggie!
Only way to fix this mess is to start with a new staff and then remove those players not getting it done
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Agreed. The Spring Cleaning has begun. w00t!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Finally some good news.
Chances Wiz 2.0 stays at LG?
February 1st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Campbell couldn’t beat out Tebow.No worry there.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
-R McKenzie: well respected by Wolf and Madden which is good enough for me.
-D Allen: young talent on the rise who is well respected in the NFL: good hire.
-Knapp: he is not a young talent on the rise, and he is not a proven winner: what makes this an issue for most fans (I think), is the fact that we have/ had a well known proven OC (considered one of the best OCs) in Saunders, he is under contract, but we get Knapp and let Saunders leave.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Yeah, Make sure you get rid of Wylie tho…
FVcking Dumbass..
February 1st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
The house cleaning has begun. Cleaned out the offensive staff…which was overrated..and a new DC with a slew of assistants will be on board.
Then the free agency period begins….there will be more house cleaning.
Keep on cleaning house Reggie!
Only way to fix this mess is to start with a new staff and then remove those players not getting it done
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Yeah way to go. Clean house and fix this mess. First order of business bring back an old problem, the worst OC the Raiders have ever had next to Walsh.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
-R McKenzie: well respected by Wolf and Madden which is good enough for me.
O, how and why is that good enough for you?
February 1st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Raider OO,BingO.Why?I Dunno
February 1st, 2012 at 8:18 pm
“With the exception of Skipper, this coaching staff is looking pretty white so far.”
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God forbid…. No team has EVER won a championship with white coaches.
As if their color matters. The Raiders are color blind.
They’re all silver & black…..
Now, go somewhere and pine for Campbell or something. We’ve got football business here.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:20 pm
47. Lazy f***. We remember stablers beard as ANOTHER one of your aliases RMR.
Nigh nigh…
February 1st, 2012 at 8:20 pm
47,Well Said,Raider Nation!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Because Ron Wolf and Madden are football legends, they are winners, and they are Raiders.
That’s good enough for me.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
-R McKenzie: well respected by Wolf and Madden which is good enough for me.
O, how and why is that good enough for you?
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Both Wolfe and Madden know a lot more than all the wanna be experts on here.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Hendu,
I don’t get it, and I can’t say I trust 2 rookies to make the best choices every time. McKenzie and Allen are new at their positions, so we should expect a few mistakes.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Lefty,
And they both love the Raiders and Al. I trust them 100%.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
FVCK THIS!
Is it Baseball Season Yet???
Hopefully I don’t get back on this site for another 8 months..
Raiders are going to be the 2009 Seahawks next year..I am retiring from NFL fandom..
I don’t need this crap..Its all a waste of time. My St. Louis Cardinals won the World Series last year and you know what, my life hasn’t changed one Iota..It has made me fully realize that all this hand wringing about the state of the Raiders means absolutely NOTHING…
As a lifelong fan, I am over it..I am going to concentrate from now till the start of the 2012 season not giving a Sh!t about this team anymore. It means nothing, and is a colossal waste of time, money, energy, emotion, and pursuit of things that actually matter like Health, Family, and Spirituality..
I played the game, I don’t need to live Vicariously through overpaid, apathetic, pampered crybaby athletes, who could care less whether they win or lose..while Raider fan gets their heart torn out year after year, decade after decade for one reason and one reason only..Because they care….
I am pledge to NOT care anymore..Just like the rest of the team.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Ummm… I’ve never been anyone else here, and don’t spend much time at it. Surely not enough to come up with other names….
Sorry.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
So some of you are ok with the old way of doing things where our HC had his staff chosen for him?
The HC is choosing his own staff.
Guys he is comfortable with teaching HIS way of doing things.
I don’t see the problem.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Aw man… I’m crushed….
February 1st, 2012 at 8:31 pm
The problem is Allen isn’t hiring the names these blog GMs want.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Say what you will but that Texans O-line is the bomb! I wish we had an O-line like that, DMAC would have 1000 total yards per season (8 game seasons you see), and Palmer would have even more time to pick the right defender to throw the ball to. Its gonna be awesome!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Good rehire DA, it might be your only good one so far but I like it, now go get us a DC.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
So was it the move to bring Wiz back that says the team doesn’t care and sent dude over the ledge?
February 1st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
J,
Let the new HC hire his staff, but don’t forget that he is a rookie, so you can’t let him do everything he wants.
Ask Denver is they are happy with Josh McDaniel, and what he did as a Rookie HC.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
No!!!!
The problem is Allen hiring a guy with an avg resume at best, and trying to rebuild the entire team when we were so close to wining our division.
I’m sure even you can understand something this simple.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Have a look in the mirror “Mikeg” and ASK yourself can YOU really walk away from the S&B
February 1st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Damn, it’s not like Allen hired Jim Jones.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
J Hill,it’s so funny that all the GMs used to cry that they wanted us to operate like a ‘real’ NFL team and now that we are they can’t handle it.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Lefty,
Not one of “my guys” got hired either, lol.
But I can see where things are headed, and they don’t look so bad in my eyes.
Houston’s offensive system was pretty solid and we arguably have better weapons, or at least as good.
Strength coach replacement was something that’s been long overdue. We’ve had jokes about our training room for a while now.
I’m still waiting to see who the DC is going to be, but it really isn’t going to matter since it will be Allen’s plan that is installed.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
No!!!!
The problem is Allen hiring a guy with an avg resume at best, and trying to rebuild the entire team when we were so close to wining our division.
I’m sure even you can understand something this simple.
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What clue do you have that we are going to rebuilt the entire team?There is none.He even said in his press conference we didn’t have to start from scratch.That is just some BS being thrown out by a bunch of unhappy,whining blog GMs.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Houston’s offense was good before Knapp got there, and it will continue to be good after he is gone. It’s Kubiak’s offense.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Dennis Allen won’t be running the draft like Josh McDanielshad the opportunity to do.
McDaniel’s won’t have the ability to cut McFadden, trade Palmer, etc.
Allen will be fine with McKenzie handling the GM stuff.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Time Out,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
What do you call it when we hire a new GM, new HC, new OC, and new DC? Most people that have a clue about sports would call such actions rebuilding the team, but not you. You are special. lol
February 1st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Lefty, Its not to hard to see why people are unhappy with most of Allens hires so far, mainly Knapp. So let the Nation vent a little, we will all be on board once the new season kicks off
February 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
We will have the same QB,the same RB(McFadden),the same WRs,the same nucleus in the Oline.We will have most of the same starters on Def.How does that equate to rebuilding the team?Since you seem to be the one without a clue,I’ll answer it for you-it doesn’t.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
74 Realtruraider,TRUE,HaHa
February 1st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
mikeschoice Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
stadium proposals in LA asking for tax $$$?
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Ed Roski is putting the LA taxpayers up to build a stadium, and then he gets part or all of the franchise. Sure. So Roski himself gets part or all of a team for little or no investment. No one is going to fall for that. Unless he gets the shareholder list from Bernie Madoff.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
He did well with the whiners (that team was loaded), and he hasn’t done anything special after that. That was a decade ago.
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Dude he is the Quarterback Coach on a team that has been ranked 3rd or 4th in the league in total offense for the last two years in a row. What you are thinking is he didn’t have anything to do with that success. You might want to rethink that.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Real-whoever we bring in as DC will be an improvement over what we had last year and he won’t even be Allen’s 1st choice-we were denied access to them.The new ST coach can’t be worse than who he replaced.Knapp is a wash as far as i’m concerned.Our offense was inconsistent last year and totally ineffective in the 2nd half of games,which helped cost us as many games as our pathetic defense.Why the outrage?
February 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Lefty,
1- You do know you made assumptions, and your basing your entire argument on those assumptions. You don’t know who will stay, get cut, traded, or gets added.
2- changing the entire coaching staff and scheme is a form of rebuilding the team. You don’t have to change your entire roster to rebuild the team.
February 1st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
What do you call it when we hire a new GM, new HC, new OC, and new DC? Most people that have a clue about sports would call such actions rebuilding the team, but not you. You are special. lol
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I would agree we are rebuilding. But after 5-11, 8-8, and 8-8, we SHOULD be rebuilding. Unless you guys are all fine with 8-8. Personally, I think 8-8 sucks ass.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Although Manusky is a upgrade from bresnabullsh’t.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
The Texans were doing well before Knapp got there, and they well continue to do so after he is gone.
Like I said: it’s Kubiak’s offense!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Finally!!!!
We agree on something!!!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Hendu,
Good evening my brother.
I will always support My Raiders, but like you said: I’m not thrilled with some of the staff.
RAIDERS
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Agreed. This whole “new era” jazz the Al haters have been waiting on and been celebrating is shaping up to be a disaster. Hate to say it, but it really could set the franchise back indefinitely.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Anyone is an upgrade over Chucky!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
O,those that claim we are tearing the team apart and totally rebuilding are making more assumptions than I.They are assuming we will have many new players.Going by what the HC said,that may not be the case.Perhaps our choice of words should be different.We are rebuilding the organization,but will be fielding pretty much the same team.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
The Ideal situation (IMHO as FAN) would have been to keep some position coaches on offense with the OC who did well for us, keep the focus on rebuilding/ fixing the defense, and let’s win the west and compete in the POs.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Lefty,
Never the same team. Especially after FA. Every year is a new team.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
So interesting to see so many people who criticized Al Davis Apologists now take the same role as those they criticized. Just because the Raiders took the correct steps to fix organizational issues doesn’t mean that those hired are 100% right all of the time. Too many of these hires are questionable. A lot of coaches that have had mediocre careers are going to be wearing Silver and Black next season. Maybe Allen leads them to new heights but outside of the Strength and Conditioning coach there is not one hire so far that exceeds the coach he is replacing. McKenzie moved slow to hire Allen and now Allen is stuck picking from the bottom of the barrel. Why not wait until next week after the Superbowl and try to hire some quality coaches from the Pats and Giants staff? Or maybe college assistant coaches that will hungry to win?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Chris in NY,Keep the faith,we all may be surprised,one way or another
February 1st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
You do understand PRETTY MUCH doesn’t mean the exact same.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I don’t think the Houston Texans were a bad team this year. . .be a bit more of a visionary & less of a revisionists. . .the Texans still went downfield. . .the Raiders are bettr stocked (outside of Andre Johnson, arguably the best WR, when healthy, in the game)@ WR than Houston. . .a bit behind @ TE. . .but a threat in the running game. . .don’t think Knapp will “hamstring (bad choice of words?)” DMAC (if he’s not traded) with a straight running game. . .the stretch play is made for DMAC. . .just think (not hard to do; used to have nightmares about him)Terrell Davis; not to mention one Arian Foster, not only the best RB in the league but easily the most intelligent. . .if you’re keeping score. . .
And, yes, the new “D” coaches may be coaching this Sunday. . .so shove the doom & gloom. . .and #31, you meander so much you must be drowning your sorrows @ “happy hour. . .” you used the word “obfuscate” to illustrate Reg McKenzie’s lack of ability to attract talented coaches? How many coaches have you EVER heard use such a multicyllabilic word? (outside of marv Levy, who was an English major or Brian Billick, an offensive minded HC whose offenses were, well offensive) Absolute paradox. . .one has nothing even remotely to do with the other. . .
What about rejecting the guy he privately had annointed (Winston Moss, whom would have been a PR nightmare, especially on roadtrips) as his choice for HC if he ever was graced with a GM gig? Was that dumb? Have you ever listened to alot of coaches in the sport, regardless (I used it right! gold stars for me!)of the level of competition? You couldn’t be farther from the truth! Coaches notoriously abhor intelligence; A strong willed intelligent player can split the lockerroom gone wrong. . .coaches hate free thinkers. . .I know firsthand; I was one (how can you call a kid “professor” on the high school level? But I was perceived as a “threat”. . .perhaps because they found “Out of their League” in my locker (Dave Meggysey wrote his less than humurous “Ball Four” type dissertation of his football memories. . .dehumanization @ it’s finest)
And then to compare offensive (an apt desccription of your ramblings)scheming with enriching uranium? Who do you work for, the IAEA? My girlfriend fugures out the game faster than most guys!
So, would you rather have what the Raiders offered last year on “O” & “D” or what Houston brought to the table on “O” and what Denver, once they jelled, brought on “D?” Your choice. Just do so wisely. . .
So do you think Allen is misrepresenting Carson Palmer when he indicates Carson is “excited” at the pfospect of the future? Wouldn’t that be considered divisive? Misrepresenting his QB? A little common sense, let alone logic required!
Also; who are the “many players” you refer to? No credability without sources. . .unbelivable. . .seems Huebris is rubbing off on you. . .get a clue. . .
February 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
The Texans were doing well before Knapp got there, and they well continue to do so after he is gone.
Like I said: it’s Kubiak’s offense!
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Until this year that was a franchise that never made the playoffs. Kubiak’s head was on the the executioners block. This year, not only did they make the playoffs, they advanced. With a THIRD STRING guy. Who just happened to also be a rookie. Who was coached by Knapp. Our offense went backward under Jackson. With much better players. I’ll take Knapp.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
What do you call it when we hire a new GM, new HC, new OC, and new DC? Most people that have a clue about sports would call such actions rebuilding the team, but not you. You are special. lol
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I would agree we are rebuilding. But after 5-11, 8-8, and 8-8, we SHOULD be rebuilding. Unless you guys are all fine with 8-8. Personally, I think 8-8 sucks ass.
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We were 8-8 for two years under Gruden before going to the AFC Title Game 2 of the next 3 years (the third being the Tuck Rule game season, which would’ve put us there again that year).
We were a 8-8 team on the ascension. Full-blown rebuilding here is completely idiotic. If Al were still alive, obviously this wouldn’t be happening right now.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Just to pile on; was Arian Foster a “dink & dunk” type RB? More like Marshaal Faulk or Priest Holmes. . .DMAC any different? Don’t think so! Just so you know!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Some of you Act like we have been dominating the league like The Patriots.
Last time we won a SB, I was frickin’ 11 years old.
That’s 28 years ago. We needed to gut the place of anything tied to Al Davi’s way of building what he thought was the way to do things.
Karma slapped him in the head when he traded Gruden to Tampa Bay and “Chucky” got the last laugh.
Sorry Raider Nation, but for the last 9 years we set records for consecutive 11 loss seasons, and last year we won the Award for Most Penalized Team.
Any change with Reggie’s and D.A.’s stamp of approval is fine with me.
They inherited a House that was old, outdated, and frankly not too much curb appeal either.
9 non-winning season is not good.
9 years of watching the Patriots,Steelers, Colts, dominate the AFC has Sucked!
Watching Frickin’ Tim Teblows win the West still makes me puke!
We are still going to compete and in my opinion with this Division. A couple smart Free Agent signings and a creative trade or 2 improves this team quickly and it’s not like we have a Juggernaut in our division..
Keeping Wiz was a smart move.
Papa Reggie knows what he is doing. He did spend 19 years in GB watching that organization win 2 SB’s, draft well, sign smart FA’s, etc.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Had to jet for awhile…darren traded?
:’(
February 1st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Lefty,
You are right. We dont have to rebuild the entire team.
Harbaugh didn’t rebuild the whiners and John Harbaugh didn’t rebuild the Ravens, but the coaches knew they had a strong unit that they didn’t have to alter that much, and they should focus on the weak unit which was the offense for both teams.
I think we should have done the same. We had a strong offense, we had some strugles, but we also had a rookie HC who had a lot on his plate, and we had a lot of key injuries. Our offense wasn’t the reason we lost most games. It was our defense.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Did you enjoy your headache?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
The Texans were doing well before Knapp got there, and they well continue to do so after he is gone.
Like I said: it’s Kubiak’s offense!
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Until this year that was a franchise that never made the playoffs. Kubiak’s head was on the the executioners block. This year, not only did they make the playoffs, they advanced. With a THIRD STRING guy. Who just happened to also be a rookie. Who was coached by Knapp. Our offense went backward under Jackson. With much better players. I’ll take Knapp.
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Absurd. From No. 31 to back-to-back top 10 rankings is going backwards?
Knapp is one of these guys who’s been around the league for a hundred years but never been elite. He’s pretty much the definition of mediocre.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Lefty, I think the Hiring of Knapp caught the Nation by surprise, everyone was expecting someone from the Saints or Packers. I think its obvious why people are not happy with the Knapp hire, Im not going to go over all that, to be honest Im already over it.
I do agree that no matter who the DC is he will be an upgrade over what we had if for no other reason than Allen will have a heavy hand on that side of the Ball.
Allen made some good hires today, strength and conditioning looks like very solid hires, I think keeping big wiz was also a good move, so lets just say I feel alot better than I did yesterday. Give it time and I believe most of the Nation will come around, we really don’t have a choice.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Wiz probably refused to leave, and Allen didn’t feel like calling security.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
What do you call it when we hire a new GM, new HC, new OC, and new DC? Most people that have a clue about sports would call such actions rebuilding the team, but not you. You are special. lol
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I would agree we are rebuilding. But after 5-11, 8-8, and 8-8, we SHOULD be rebuilding. Unless you guys are all fine with 8-8. Personally, I think 8-8 sucks ass.
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How many times does this need to said??? You know if J Campbell and DMAC don’t go down this team wins the division and is in the playoffs. Raiders “were” on the up and up. Keeping Hue and getting a decent D cord was what was needed. Even with the crap defense they still would have been in the playoffs. Imagine if next season they had a decent defense with that offense= Top 5 team in the NFL.
Even with all the injuries, AD passing, and the penalties they missed the playoffs by like one Damn game. ONE GAME. First year head coach Hue should of had another year to make some adjustments.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
A DMAC based offense = doom.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
IMO,what it boils down to is those that liked Jackson will pi$$ and moan while those that didn’t find the changes to be ok or at least have more of a wait and see attitude.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
McKenzie moved slow to hire Allen and now Allen is stuck picking from the bottom of the barrel. Why not wait until next week after the Superbowl and try to hire some quality coaches from the Pats and Giants staff? Or maybe college assistant coaches that will hungry to win?
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I can tell you why. As I have said in here many many times, we have a rookie GM, a rookie HC. If we hire position guys, or even worse college guys who have to learn the league, it would be a recipe for disaster. We are going to have to hire veteran playcallers to fill out the coordinator positions. It’s just what we have to do.
Well, since it is a lateral move, no team is going to allow us to grab their veteran playcallers. Especially guys that are really good like Carmichael or Wade Phillips or Scott Linehan. So our choice is to grab the best veteran guys we can get. And just between me and you, who is better? That is available right now?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
So you are going to credit Knapp for improving the team and Wade who made the Texans defense a strong unit after they were the tram’s weakness the last 3-5 years.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I don’t blame the Davis guys for being totally skeptical of all of this and dissing it until it brings results. It’s only fair. Those of us Davis critics were gloomy of his ways (and dead right, all of the time), and his supporters had to play the role of the shill and talk up the system. Now it’s our turn to make futile attempts at selling the angry masses on a current system. It’s karma. Let the Davis camp be skeptical. Just like when the shoe was on the other foot, the only way to quell the criticism is to win.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:21 pm
How many times does this need to said???
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How many times do you need to hear wouldashouldacoulda. Dude, if “if’s and but’s were candy and nuts we’d all have a happy Christmas.”
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Wiz probably refused to leave, and Allen didn’t feel like calling security.
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LOL.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
So you are going to credit Knapp for improving the team and Wade who made the Texans defense a strong unit after they were the tram’s weakness the last 3-5 years.
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The reason the Texans did better this year, hands down is because of Wade Phillips. But you act like Greg Knapp was running a bed and breakfast. You absolutely cannot discount the value that Knapp added.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
RaidO Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
… How many times does this need to said??? You know if J Campbell and DMAC don’t go down this team wins the division and is in the playoffs. Raiders “were” on the up and up. Keeping Hue and getting a decent D cord was what was needed. Even with the crap defense they still would have been in the playoffs. Imagine if next season they had a decent defense with that offense= Top 5 team in the NFL.
Even with all the injuries, AD passing, and the penalties they missed the playoffs by like one Damn game. ONE GAME. First year head coach Hue should of had another year to make some adjustments.
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Boom. Nailed it.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Ban Joe Rudi!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Seymour, you seem to be Victor vascillating. . .
February 1st, 2012 at 9:25 pm
DMAC did not go down. He refused “treatment”.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
103,MR,thats funny
February 1st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Even with all the injuries, AD passing, and the penalties they missed the playoffs by like one Damn game. ONE GAME. First year head coach Hue should of had another year to make some adjustments.
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All excuses. The facts are rookie HC lost control of his team. And if he didn’t win a coin flip to get the ball in overtime in KC would have ended the season 0-5. As it was with everything on the line, and with better personnel than the year before, his team played .200 to finish. Not only did Jackson deserve to be fired, he deserved the firing squad.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I didn’t like Hue (sorry Chris), and I’m happy with R McKenzie and D Allen, BUT I’M NOT WITH KNAPP and rebuilding/ altering/changing/ (add your favorite word) the entire team. The offense lost its starting QB & RB, we had to get a new QB, we had some more injuries on offense (WRs), and we were still above avg.
Do you really think we should be altering our offense, or adding a good backup RB and some OL help.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:28 pm
This is a new ERA. Get on board as we are building a new “Culture” and “Enviroment”.
We are addressing the issues tha have plagued this team the last 9 years:
1) Defense- The side of the ball that has dragged this team down for years.
2) GM- someone from a proven winning organization on how to set up a Real Modern NFL Franchise and scout and develop talent
3) Coaching Decisions- invest into a talented coach and surround him and empower him with tools and resources.
We have a good enough QB and offense that dealt with a myriad of issues. They will have an offseason which will Bly hel, there is a ton of talent on Offense.
The really question is DMAC and his health. It is a gamble any way you slice it up with that guy, he is either feast or famine.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:28 pm
antispy3 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Seymour, you seem to be Victor vascillating. . .
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Explain that in English please.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:30 pm
You guys like excuses. Real football people like results. That’s the difference in what we are talking about.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
14.Albert Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
With the exception of Skipper, this coaching staff is looking pretty white so far.
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Is that a bad thing?
Green Bay is the “whitest” team in the league and they do okay for themselves.
It doesn’t matter if a coach or player is black or white as long as they can play or coach.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:32 pm
The NY Giants were 6-6. We were 7-4 and in control of the division. They are playing for a World Title. You guys are making excuses.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Duh
Darren = famine
And I won’t even pun on feminine…
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Because Ron Wolf and Madden are football legends, they are winners, and they are Raiders.
That’s good enough for me.
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Al Davis was a bigger and better Football Legend than both Madden and Wolf combined, Al made both of them, and Al made plenty of personal mistakes. Hell he made the same mistake (Knapp). How can you have such blind faith in anyone?
If McKenzie flops it ain’t no sweat off Madden or Wolfs back.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Didn’t Condo outcoach our new ST coach in week 16?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I guess some of you believe that it was Jim Caldwell’s fault the Colts sucked this year. I believe they had some QB problems too.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
123,PERIOD
February 1st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Because Ron Wolf and Madden are football legends, they are winners, and they are Raiders.
That’s good enough for me.
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Al Davis was a bigger and better Football Legend than both Madden and Wolf combined, Al made both of them, and Al made plenty of personal mistakes. Hell he made the same mistake (Knapp). How can you have such blind faith in anyone?
If McKenzie flops it ain’t no sweat off Madden or Wolfs back.
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And what had Al (RIP) produced in the last decade? One losing season after another? Our beloved Raiders becoming a punchline? NO. Al’s gone. Time to move on.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Hue lead a team that gave up the most penalties, rushing yards against average, 2nd most in points, over 2000 rushing yards, etc….
I couldn’t be happier and as long as Reggie is in charge, I’m all in.
Houston lost 2 QB’s, top Defensive player, Best WR for games and they WON in the playoffs.
Reason:
coaching and our old friend Knapp was involved in some capacity and I’ll take that over what he have had the last 9 years.
We were 7-4, selling out the O……you know the rest…
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:32 pm
The NY Giants were 6-6. We were 7-4 and in control of the division. They are playing for a World Title. You guys are making excuses.
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Losing your starting QB and star RB is excuses????
The colts lost their QB and look what happened to them. Raiders lost their QB “AND” star RB
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RaidO Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I guess some of you believe that it was Jim Caldwell’s fault the Colts sucked this year. I believe they had some QB problems too.
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It probably wasn’t Caldwell’s fault that his team was terrible. But he certainly wasn’t the solution either. That’s what NFL people will say.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Raiders rank 14th in the NFL in wins over the last two yrs.
That’s the upper half of the league.
Of course we all wanted, and should have had many more wins.
I think you blow up a 4-12 team, NOT an 8-8 team that was so close.
It’s like driving the family to disney world and getting as far as Gainesville, then turning around and going back home and wasting 3 days of your vacation cuz you forgot your camera.
Buy a camera and get to disney world.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
It’s hard to credit a Position coach for the success of the Texans offense when that unit has been performing at a high level for 3-5 years (before he was hired as a QB coach).
Did he do a great job with their rookie QB? Yes he did.
Can he help develop TP? I think so due to what he did with TJ, and also due to his style of offense.
Is he the best fit for our situation? I don’t think so. He would be as a QB coach, but I would have liked us to keep the same offense.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Yes, it is Kubiak’s offense in Houston
It will be Allen’s offense in Oakland, NOT Knapp’s.
This HC is taking responsibilty for the entire team, O.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RaidO Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
I guess some of you believe that it was Jim Caldwell’s fault the Colts sucked this year. I believe they had some QB problems too.
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It probably wasn’t Caldwell’s fault that his team was terrible. But he certainly wasn’t the solution either. That’s what NFL people will say.
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Yeah it’s kind of hard when you lose your star QB/OC
February 1st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Offensive game plan will be installed by the HC.
Knapp will get to design his playcalling based on how Allen wants the offense to run.
If you think Allen’s version of an up-tempo offense is running on 1st and 2nd down, then I don’t think you have been paying attention.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:43 pm
82.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
With Knapp running our offense, is Ford officially on the trade block?
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I put him on the block weeks ago.
Ford and a 5th for an early 3rd.
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more stupid sh1t. u guys didnt pay attention to mckenzie in his inaugural presser. he said the one thing he loves more than draft picks is good players. a pick is nothin but a blank piece of paper that you use to get a player that u HOPE will be good. why the fugg would u entertain trading a young proven player for that? saying his value as a returner has diminished cuz of the rules is just asenine. he is a threat to score every time he touches the ball as a returner and wr. he can also get better at both. thats just why u dont trade dmc. these guys are game breakers which is what teams kill for. i swear u guys want to trade these guys just so u can watch that dumbazz draft. thats whah this is about. all of u wannabe gm’s need somethin to argue about in april to prove who was right or wrong. this aint no damn puzzy azz fantasy football yall geeks like to play. its real life we dealin with.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:43 pm
RaidO Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Losing your starting QB and star RB is excuses????
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They replaced a journeyman QB with an Heisman Trophy overall number one, a two time pro bowler that has led the NFL in both completion percentage and TD’s. They replaced the star RB with a Heisman frontrunner who got almost 1000 yards in just 9 starts. And had 37 receptions. Sounds like more excuses to me.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Excuses?
DMAC was the leading rusher in the league when he went down.
If this were Minnesota and it were Adrian Peterson going down, THAT IS ALL YOU WOULD HEAR ABOUT as the reason they failed to make the playoffs.
That is a fact!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Offensive game plan will be installed by the HC.
Knapp will get to design his playcalling based on how Allen wants the offense to run.
If you think Allen’s version of an up-tempo offense is running on 1st and 2nd down, then I don’t think you have been paying attention.
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How do you know?
What we do know is there is nothing “up tempo” about Knapps Offensive style or play calling abilities. Never has been.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Close is good if you are playing Horse Shoes.
This is a win the SB or nothing else league, add to that no winning seasons in 9 years, a new coach every year, breaking penalty records, second longest playoff drought next to the Cleveland Browns.
Change was needed and more is coming. We only needed 1 stupid more win to have played and beating up Pitt but HueJax couldn’t rally this team.
Good coaches don’t go 1-4 in final 5 games and lose the Division to Tim Shebow.
Reggie is bringing in the right guys to “coach up” the so called talent on this team, we will see.
I still see us wining the West next year and making the playoffs, anything can happen in the Modern NFL, which now we have a Modern Guy running it.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
J,
Kubiak was an OC and QB coach for over 10 year with Shanahan. Allen (as fas as i know) has no experience with any NFL or college offense.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Excuses?
DMAC was the leading rusher in the league when he went down.
If this were Minnesota and it were Adrian Peterson going down, THAT IS ALL YOU WOULD HEAR ABOUT as the reason they failed to make the playoffs.
That is a fact!
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A voice of reason. VERY very true
February 1st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
i swear u guys want to trade these guys just so u can watch that dumbazz draft. thats whah this is about.
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LOL!
Yeah, that’s it.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Why are you so convinced that Allen has an offense?
February 1st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
we waited all this time for guys like ford , dmc, shawny and others to develop and now yall want to trade them for some picks that u will b1tch about 2 months from now. damn yall really make me sick. 1 of the main reasons this blog isnt what it use to be. you spend all damn day talkin about the same sh1t that never comes true but yall act like u have the answers. we have a young team worth supporting and u wanna get rid of them, just stupid. alot of u dont believe in the talent like u claimed to. ive seen people say for years that we just need quality coaches to turn us around. well now that we are getting them lets just see how they use these guys compared to the jackazzez we’re accustomed to.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
It’s hard to credit a Position coach for the success of the Texans offense when that unit has been performing at a high level for 3-5 years (before he was hired as a QB coach).
Did he do a great job with their rookie QB? Yes he did.
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You asked, what has he done? As a QB coach you are VERY MUCH integrated into forming the game plan and game day decisions. Remember, it’s not like Rick Dennison has been Sean Payton for ten years. Two years ago Rick Dennison was maybe calling plays for his kids pee wee team. He teamed up with Knapp and they have done well. You can’t say Knapp had nothing to do with it.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:49 pm
134 Djohnny
That was pretty good, LOL!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:50 pm
The only real problem the Raiders have is the gamble of keeping/trading DMAC.
That will be the first real tough decision Reggie and D.A will make.
Changing the coaches was easy.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I don’t agree in using Palmer replacing JC as a legit “excuse” for the reasons Seymour cited but having DMAC go down is legit.
Just cuz Bush did okay he only had 3.9 a carry and he is not a gamebreaker like DMAC.
DMAC was averaging over 5 yds. a carry.
Forget excuses though Each team has to man up and when the smoke cleared we still were right there.
You can’t make excuses for failing to take care of SD that last game.
I agree that Bush was/is good enuff for us to win that last game.
I mean SHOULD of been good enough.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
1) Defense- The side of the ball that has dragged this team down for years.
2) GM- someone from a proven winning organization on how to set up a Real Modern NFL Franchise and scout and develop talent
3) Coaching Decisions- invest into a talented coach and surround him and empower him with tools and resources.
We have a good enough QB and offense that dealt with a myriad of issues. They will have an offseason which will Bly hel, there is a ton of talent on Offense.
The really question is DMAC and his health. It is a gamble any way you slice it up with that guy, he is either feast or famine.
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1. Last year the defense ran all of the same coverage’s that everyone else ran in the league. And failed. Square peg (scheme)with Round hole (personnel)
2. GM – whats that difference between a GM that didn’t make a decision before 3pm and a GM that gives a rookie coach NO SUPPORT. Just run out there and hire whoever you want Coach Allen! No it doesn’t matter that you’ve never hired anyone before. No it doesn’t matter that you’ve never been a head coach you’ll figure it out. Sounds irresponsible to me. Where is the support? Where is all of the years of experience? Oh and maybe you didn’t know but all of the Broncos defensive coaches had ties to John Fox. None of them were Allen’s guys. And a lot of them were under contract with the Broncos when Fox got there.
3. Do I even need to get into the “talented coaches” part?
Rookie coach has been thrown to the wolves. I am not impressed with the “New Era”. Hire a rookie coach was fine. Hue Jackson leaving didn’t break my heart. He made his share of mistakes, but if your going to replace him with a guy who has never been a head coach how about giving him a chance to succeed? They are setting this kid up for failure.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Really????
You guys don’t think Allen has an idea of what he wants to see on offense?
He’s Knapps’s boss!!!!!
He’s not just giving Knapp a blank canvas and waiting on Sunday’s like the rest of us.
Allen will let Knapp know what he means by up-tempo, and I guarantee you it won’t be some run left, run right crap.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Post 139, LMFAO!!! Good stuff
February 1st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I know he has an idea about his offense. I hope he does, but that’s different that a guy who has his own offense/ scheme like Kubiak.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:56 pm
DC – Joe Whitt Jr.
Pull the trigger Allen!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
J Hill
if he runs ZBS its 2 running plays, Wide and Tight. Sorry but that’s the system.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
i believe reece will benefit the most from knapp as the OC. if he attacks the way the texans do then reece might be used like walters. ive felt that reece is actually very similar to dallas clark. there is no way marcel should have less than 50-60 catches. i also think we will see dmc be used more creatively as a reciever. arian foster will run a nice amount of wheel routes which is what ive always felt dmc should run.the only offensive moves i would make is to upgrade the oline and backup qb. i dont care how good pryor looks we need much better than boller. have no doubt we will get a good backup rb if we dont keep bush.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
djohnnyg Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Raiders rank 14th in the NFL in wins over the last two yrs.
That’s the upper half of the league.
Of course we all wanted, and should have had many more wins.
I think you blow up a 4-12 team, NOT an 8-8 team that was so close.
It’s like driving the family to disney world and getting as far as Gainesville, then turning around and going back home and wasting 3 days of your vacation cuz you forgot your camera.
Buy a camera and get to disney world.
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Good post. I think a lot of professional personnel guys would rather have a 4-12 or 3-13 year than 8-8, and I will tell you why. When you get into that 8-8, 9-7 rut, you don’t get access to the really great players. It seems if you are in that mid area, sometimes you get stuck in that .500 level for awhile.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Reece will be gone if we adapt the Texans offense. Blocking FB takes priority.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Really????
You guys don’t think Allen has an idea of what he wants to see on offense?
He’s Knapps’s boss!!!!!
He’s not just giving Knapp a blank canvas and waiting on Sunday’s like the rest of us.
Allen will let Knapp know what he means by up-tempo, and I guarantee you it won’t be some run left, run right crap.
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Allen’s a D guy. He brings no offense or offensive playbook. It will be all Knapp.= run, run, pass, punt
You heard Allen in the presser say he believes in letting is coaches call the plays. He said he will be a “game manager”
February 1st, 2012 at 9:59 pm
The great part of all this is it will be settled on Sunday.
I guess most of you have been so used to 2-5 wins for so long that 2 8-8 seasons has everyone thinking SB.
This team had issues that needed to be cleaned up plus The Owner Died.
changes were in order, again our Divison is weak, we hired the D Corrdinator from the team that won the Division.
It wont take much to win this Divison next year. Shoot all we needed to to stop a couple teams from driving 99 yards.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Really????
You guys don’t think Allen has an idea of what he wants to see on offense?
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I know J Hill. Some of the fans in here were trying to tell me that Jackson has no idea about defense or how to fix it. I was thinking if Jackson has no idea how a defense runs, how can he design plays to beat a defense?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:01 pm
NO ONE on the team is untradeable!
Stop falling in love with the names on the back of the damn jersey!
Understand that it takes pieces to complete the puzzle.
IF we switch to the 3-4, we should certainly entertain trade offers for MY boy ShoNasty. I have no interest in seeing him try to convert to OLB or play a 3-4 DE. NEVER said to trade him if we stay 4-3.
I’d trade DMac for 2 #1s all day long. PHUUGGG what you are talking about! A #2?? Never.
WR is our deepest position. You have to give up SOMETHING to get something. I’m not giving up DHB or Moore. Murphy and a vet like Drive can MORE than handle the #3 and #4 WR slots. Especially if we mix in our TE mismatches more next year with Ausberry and Boss.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Reece is a RFA, but the guy is so talented there is no way we let him go. If we have used him right like the Pats use Hernandez, he would be in the PB. He was a good/ huge WR at college.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Even with all the injuries, AD passing, and the penalties they missed the playoffs by like one Damn game. ONE GAME. First year head coach Hue should of had another year to make some adjustments.
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All excuses. The facts are rookie HC lost control of his team. And if he didn’t win a coin flip to get the ball in overtime in KC would have ended the season 0-5. As it was with everything on the line, and with better personnel than the year before, his team played .200 to finish. Not only did Jackson deserve to be fired, he deserved the firing squad.
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Regarding your point about the KC game, the majority of games could swing one way or the other on a given play. If we get a 4th down stop against Buffalo we’re in the playoffs. If McClain makes an open-field tackle on Stafford we win that game and end up in the playoffs. If Denver gets flagged for one of about a half dozen illegal blocks on the punt return in the second game we may win that game and wind up in the playoffs. If the D makes one stop against SD with the ball on the .5 yard line after a narrowly avoided special teams safety we may win that game as well.
So if you want to play that game, you could argue we were 4 plays away from being 12-4 as well.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Yo Blog McNuggets
While you’re all wetting your jammies dorking out on the blog, I’ve been rapping my new hit single to this busty coed from Cal State Long Beach.
Now that I’ve established my street cred, them panties are coming off faster almost as fast as the wrapper on my package of Magnums
Anyway, if any of you goobers want to cry about how bad you want to be me for 10 minutes, I’ll listen
February 1st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
303, don’t tell people to get on board. Let’s be fair. We were on board when people were getting hyped over Turner and Shell? I know I wasn’t. Before game one I’d written the team off. I didn’t give it a chance. Granted, I wound up being right. But still, I had zero pre season optimism. Now that I’m on board with the team’s system, it’s only fair my optimism is met with the same pessimism I gave for years. Is what it is. These fans critical of what’s going on right now have every right to complain until we start winning.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Allen told Wiz he was being let go, then Wiz roll blocked him and bit him in the shoulder. Allen said fukc it and decided to sleep on it. Wiz will probably stay.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Understood Sullivan.
I don’t like mediocrity and weirdness. Never did. I like Structure, Character, Stability, and Leadership.
Reggie Mac and D-Allen bring that.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Because Ron Wolf and Madden are football legends, they are winners, and they are Raiders.
That’s good enough for me.
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Al Davis was a bigger and better Football Legend than both Madden and Wolf combined, Al made both of them, and Al made plenty of personal mistakes. Hell he made the same mistake (Knapp). How can you have such blind faith in anyone?
If McKenzie flops it ain’t no sweat off Madden or Wolfs back.
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And what had Al (RIP) produced in the last decade? One losing season after another? Our beloved Raiders becoming a punchline? NO. Al’s gone. Time to move on.
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that’s the point. If Al can make bad choices so can Madden, Wolf, and their puppet McKenzie.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
The Ideal situation (IMHO as FAN) would have been to keep some position coaches on offense with the OC who did well for us, keep the focus on rebuilding/ fixing the defense, and let’s win the west and compete in the POs.
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That’s yours & about 95% of us on here. That’s why everybody is upset. The O wasn’t broken – just need some changes on the O-line & we’d be good to go. The work needed was on the D. They should have kept Saunders & Wylee. Knapp – NOT!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Calling plays does not mean it will be his system..
Cmon mayne!!!!
Are you really telling me you think Allen hired Knapp to install a boring run left, run right, short pass, punt type of offense?
You think Knapp had the mouthpiece to seel Allen on that approach during the interview?
Or is Knapp going to surprise Allen with that BS opening day?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:09 pm
So if you want to play that game, you could argue we were 4 plays away from being 12-4 as well.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
That’s funny!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:09 pm
303Raider Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Understood Sullivan.
I don’t like mediocrity and weirdness. Never did. I like Structure, Character, Stability, and Leadership.
Reggie Mac and D-Allen bring that.
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Just curious. What do you base your high opinion of Chubby Checker and D-Allen on?
I’m all for blind faith and optimism in rooting for you team, but I’m just wondering if there’s anything else those excited about Chubby and Allen are basing their feelings on.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Our offense regressed and got stale the last 5 weeks. In other games we won, Minnesota, Chicago, our offense stalled in the 2nd half.
I’m fine with Knapp because Reggie and D-Allen say so.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Trading DMAC for two # 1’s only makes sense for us cuz of DMAC’s injuries.
Draft picks, even # 1’s are a crapshoot and a HEALTHY DMAC is a sure thing; one of the best players in the league. Why trade a sure thing for a crapshoot?
But he’s not healthy.
4 seasons and he’s missed almost an avaerage of more than 1/3rd of each season.
Suggesting a trade for high picks is not ridiculous.
That being said, i wanna give him another shot.
I love seeing him blow by defenders and into the end zone. It’s beautiful.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Dennis Allen was five years with Sean Payton. We will probably closer to Payton’s offense than George Seiferts.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Offensive game plan will be installed by the HC.
Knapp will get to design his playcalling based on how Allen wants the offense to run.
If you think Allen’s version of an up-tempo offense is running on 1st and 2nd down, then I don’t think you have been paying attention.
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Jhill you are usually on top of things, so I’ll let you explain. What in the world is the Dennis Allen offense? I don’t like Knapp, but knows a world more about Offense than Allen.
Knapp’s O plays + Allen’s O Plan = A hot pile of convoluted dog poo.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Our offense wasn’t the problem. It was:
1- Discipline: we broke the record in penalties in number and yards.
2- Injuries: we lost our starting QB, RB, and a few young WRs
3- Defense: Chucky!!!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Did anyone else happen to notice that Ron Wolf’s son was promoted into Reggie’s former position in Green Bay?
I’m not suggesting Ron Wolf would suggest Chubby Checker for Raiders GM just to advance his own son’s career. But the appearance of impropriety there has to at least throw a little cold water on the recommendation.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:16 pm
303Raider Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Our offense regressed and got stale the last 5 weeks. In other games we won, Minnesota, Chicago, our offense stalled in the 2nd half.
I’m fine with Knapp because Reggie and D-Allen say so.
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That’s due to BUSH being out of gas and injuries to WR’s.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Just curious. What do you base your high opinion of Chubby Checker and D-Allen on?
I’m all for blind faith and optimism in rooting for you team, but I’m just wondering if there’s anything else those excited about Chubby and Allen are basing their feelings on.
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Reggie McKenzie joined the GB Packers in 1994. His last position was director of football ops. Since 1994 GB is arguably one of the top two or three franchises in the entire league. He has been credited by more than one well respected person as being integral in their success. As soon as he left GB, they lost.
Dennis Allen has been successful every where he has gone. He took over a defense that was just plain bad and it improved and he won a division in spite of the fact that the offensive team of his team was flat out awful. That’s why. Or maybe it’s just the shiny World Championship Rings they have.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
No sense in crying over spelled milk, but it feels good to Vent.
I think I have earned that right as a fan to do that.
BTW, is Knapp from Mich?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Second half scoring:Raiders 156;Opponents 249.Granted our terrible defense lost games,but maybe scoring a few more points in the 2nd half of games would have gotten us a couple of more wins.We were out-coached on BOTH sides of the ball in the second halves of games.
BTW,calling the plays and setting up game plans are not the same thing.The HC and the offensive staff meet and set up the game plans.The play caller-whether it is the HC or the OC-then calls the plays to carry out that plan.If he doesn’t carry out the wishes of the HC he won’t be here long.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
1) Reggie spent 19 years in GB and the success that organization has had during that time and how they are positioned now is one reason.
2) Reggie understood that the Defense was and has been for awhile the side of the ball that needed attention and he hired Dennis Allen
3) We now will have the structure of a Modern NFL franchise.
4) Al is gone, R.I.P.
5) our Divison sucks, Carson gets an offseason, Hopefully DMAc will either be healthy or we trade him to fix holes.
Hue screwed it up, it was all in front of him, he made crucial mistakes and the timing of Al dying, breaking the penalty record, mis-handling the McClain incident proved he was in over his head.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Knapp’s O plays + Allen’s O Plan = A hot pile of convoluted dog poo.
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I prefer “diddly poo”. In honor of one of the unintentionally funny HC’s of all time-Jim Mora Sr.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
lol at blind optimism ,. thats wut my last date had be4 i pulled down my underwear. but seriously,, its tough being a raiders fan. and u know what? i friggin love the raiders,. i mean LOVE ! and i think we all do. who else would get on their computer and blog about a horrid football team if they werent totally in love with said team. each & every1 of us on here loves the raiders more than we do our family. dont deny it . were stuck. and it hurts. i need a great season asap or i think im gonna die.. im not playin man. this is tragic.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Get out of the new road if you can’t lend a hand, for the times they are a changing.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Great post Seymour Bush!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Spilled*
February 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Our offense wasn’t the problem.
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Our offense went five straight games without scoring ANY 4th quarter points. Our second half offense was absolutely dismal which put a lot of strain on a suspect defense.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Even though Allen says he’ll let the coordinators call the plays, I can’t picture him just standing on the sideline doing nothing the whole time.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
165.J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:01 pm
NO ONE on the team is untradeable!
Stop falling in love with the names on the back of the damn jersey!
Understand that it takes pieces to complete the puzzle.
IF we switch to the 3-4, we should certainly entertain trade offers for MY boy ShoNasty. I have no interest in seeing him try to convert to OLB or play a 3-4 DE. NEVER said to trade him if we stay 4-3.
I’d trade DMac for 2 #1s all day long. PHUUGGG what you are talking about! A #2?? Never.
WR is our deepest position. You have to give up SOMETHING to get something. I’m not giving up DHB or Moore. Murphy and a vet like Drive can MORE than handle the #3 and #4 WR slots. Especially if we mix in our TE mismatches more next year with Ausberry and Boss.
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more stupid bullah!t!! stop falling in love with changing YOUR tune about players day to day like a woman. u always speculate about a 3-4 and the sh!t doesnt happen. how do you know shawny couldnt play end in a 34? i dont believe in trading bigtime players at 24 years old. fugg 2 #1’s!! how do u know those fuggers would be any good? wr wouldnt be as deep if u trade ford. he is a game breaker as a #3 option. not many teams have that on top of his return ability. yall problem is that yall change everything up every year. some of this years draft picks are on the roster. taiwan, barksdale and pryor. we will get some comp picks. we have to stop the bleeding now. we may have to eat the draft this year for all of the trading of our future picks. eventually that was gonna catch up to us. so we will trade current young proven players for future unproven players becuz we traded for future unproven players? that makes no damn sense. we were 1 game away from the playoffs in a injury filled wierd type of year where the owner/gm died. this isnt the time to get wild and crazy. bite the bullet for one year and get on with it.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:22 pm
lol @ its hues fault that rolando mclain got arrested. anyway… back to my psychotic rant — if we ever win the superbowl in my lifetime im gonna lay on the floor of wuteva superbowl party im at and openly weep.. i may go to jail that night cus im gonna streak down elvis presley blvd wit my raiders flag. raider love is hard love .
February 1st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
WTF is all the whining about?? 2-weeks ago, this blog was crawling with people saying they had faith in letting the new HC build his own staff…now, there’s a bunch of sniveling, and threats to jump ship.
Hello!?! If you’re going to jump, just jump already…nobody here will care. Especially since half of these “threats” are made by new-name trolls just shopping for a little dust-up. Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Dennis Allen will take full control of his team…he said so at the presser. Both McKenzie and Allen are doing exactly what they said they would do when they got here.
Knapp will run an Offense the way Allen wants it run, or he won’t call plays long. D.A. will run this team. I’m not that thrilled with the Knapp hire, but I’m not disappointed, either. They all get the benefit of the doubt from me at this point. There’s no reason to think Knapp’s not a better coach, and a better play-caller now than a few years ago. He has/will have talent on this team, and CPalmer will make his Offense work.
Those saying CPalmer can’t run a WCO don’t know what they’re talking about.
Those saying DMC isn’t a one-cut back don’t know what they’re talking about.
Those who say we should swap MBush29 for Hillis are just plain crazy.
Those saying this team is suddenly a ZBS team don’t know what they’re talking about. Houston’s O used different blocking schemes. Just like on Defense, using multiple schemes, maximizing our playmakers’ individual talents will be key. Whatever scheme works, I’m for.
Just Win, Baby.
In ReggieMcK and Dennis Allen I trust.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
who cares if we run a 3-4 or a 4-3 ,, just play hard & stop sum dang body .. i 4 one hope we ru na 4-6 .. it would at least be interesting to see the espn dweebs break us down every week,,, but anyway.. i N E E D the raiders to win.. like i mean i desire it within the bowels of my auroa .. is that how u spell that ?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
What in the world is the Dennis Allen offense? I don’t like Knapp, but knows a world more about Offense than Allen.
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I’m not so sure why this point is not being grasped.
The Boss tells the employees what to do.
Knapp may in fact be the Xs ond Os guy. But he has to come in to Allen’s office everyday and present his plan of attack, RIGHT???
He’s got to explain each week to Allen how he plans on attacking the other team.
Allen is NOT going for what some of you guys are trying to sell us as Knapps offense.
ALLEN is the one that will point out the weaknesses in the other teams defense and tell Knapp how to go about it.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
mckenzie also said that u have to check the waiver wire and get some the college FA’S along with some under the radar FA’s. there are several ways to fill out our roster without doing the stupid sh1t constantly talked about in here. i believe we will go after some vets who can play well on special teams and challenge for playing time if not start for us. i expect mm34 to have competition as the #2 SS. we may have the same starters but have better depth behind certain guys who can fill in if needed. we need depth at certain positions more than we need an overhaul.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
we need to keep boyd, jerome boyd – where he at ?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Raider O Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
-R McKenzie: well respected by Wolf and Madden which is good enough for me.
-D Allen: young talent on the rise who is well respected in the NFL: good hire.
-Knapp: he is not a young talent on the rise, and he is not a proven winner: what makes this an issue for most fans (I think), is the fact that we have/ had a well known proven OC (considered one of the best OCs) in Saunders, he is under contract, but we get Knapp and let Saunders leave.
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Saunders likely headed to KC as he would not take a demotion. Fortunately, Cassell is garbage, but Saunders will create a lot of opportunities for Dexter McCluster and Jamaal Charles – they will be better, i’m sure.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
lefty12 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Second half scoring:Raiders 156;Opponents 249.
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Yeah, and if you guys remember 30 of those 2nd half points came against Miami and GB when their teams were walking off the field celebrating and we got some late scrub points. What that says is our second halfs sucked ass.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
the oakland donks…damm never thought id see the day…
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
anyone want to come to AL with me and cover the McClain trial ?? we could write a daily article and maybe sell it to Corky.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
djohnnyg Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Raiders rank 14th in the NFL in wins over the last two yrs.
That’s the upper half of the league.
Of course we all wanted, and should have had many more wins.
I think you blow up a 4-12 team, NOT an 8-8 team that was so close.
It’s like driving the family to disney world and getting as far as Gainesville, then turning around and going back home and wasting 3 days of your vacation cuz you forgot your camera.
Buy a camera and get to disney world.
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Exactly.
Heyyy….but Wiz was kept? Wow…a nice surprise.
I like that we replaced the strength and conditioning coach Roll and added two guys to replace that lousy guy Roll.
I don’t mind the hire of the KC special teams guy either. Maybe they just did good cause of Arenas….but we Ford, Moore and hopefully Branch and Jones.
Just gotta hope Knapp isn’t this years version of Bresnacrap!
Hope the DC he hires is worth a damn also.
Hoping for Ed Donatell and not Manusky!
February 1st, 2012 at 10:30 pm
im no astro physicist ,,, but uhh ,, who knows what coach allen knows? theoretically doesnt a defensive coordinator need 2 know plenty about offenses to do his job effectively ? it is in the opinion of this writer that a defensive coordinator would be a good offensive playcaller because he went up against & strategized against the best offenses in the n.f.l. weekly . plus many coaches in the n.f.l. know offense & defense and positions. why would their brains only work 1 way ?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:31 pm
In most WCO the driving philosophy of the system is “pass to set up the run.” With knapp it’s the opposite. He is a run heavy OC.
He has been with Kubiak for about a year and tends to run a more traditional West Coast Offense. He’s not run-heavy.
But it seems Knapp will back to his old ways.
I have been saying Knapp= run, run, pass, punk.
HUGE RED FLAG from Allen’s presser when talking about offense:
“We’re going to be able to run the football and run the football solidly so we can stay ahead of the chains on first and second down. ”
Knapp= run, run, pass, punk.
Run heavy teams do not win super bowls.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Armond Says: #200
What about Boyd, Jerome Boy ? He can fill in.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
BTW , what is a astro pyhcisist ? but i digress, im really hoping reggie mc can bless our team with sum long haired white linebackers that alledgedly take testorone .. im just saying .
February 1st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
stop falling in love with changing YOUR tune about players day to day like a woman. u always speculate about a 3-4 and the sh!t doesnt happen. how do you know shawny couldnt play end in a 34?
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What players have I changed my tune about?
I specualte about the 3-4 when the coaches try and hire 3-4 personell.
ShoNasty has never played OLB before, has he? You fine with experimenting with that type of dumb da dumb dumb shyytee then I think all that bad buffet food is phuggin with your brain.
You like the team the way it is. Don’t want to trade anyone to try and get better at other positions that are CLEAR needs.
Got it.
How’s that working for the Ws????
February 1st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/02/01/wisniewski-retained-on-allens-staff/
Wisniewski retained on Allen’s staff
By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
Wednesday, February 1st, 2012 at 7:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Not sure how the responsibilities will break down with offensive line hire Frank Pollack, but the Raiders have retained the services of assistant line coach Steve Wisniewski.
Both Pollack and Allen were assistant line coaches last season, Pollack under John Benton and Wisniewski under Bob Wylie.
Pollack was a tackle as an NFL player, Wisniewski a guard. Haven’t heard whether they’ll be co-line coaches or if there will be a line coach and an assistant.
The Raiders had co-line coaches one time in 2006 under Art Shell and it was a disaster, with Irv Eatman and Jackie Slater essentially taking their cue from Shell
February 1st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Tedy Bruschi on the crowd noise issue for the Pats in the Super Bowl:
“The Super Bowl is not like a regular game. You will have a portion of the crowd rooting for the Patriots and a portion rooting for the Giants”.
I don’t know what i’d do without that kind of keen insight.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RaidO, #208
Sounds familiar RaidO: 1st down, run up the middle for a 2 yd gain; 2nd down; pass to dhb, dropped; 3rd down, run up the middle no gain, or CP gets dumped by the rush losing 10 yds. 4th down, unnecessary roughness 15 yds backwards, then punt, opposition recovers on the 50 yd line, score the next play – long pass.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
this isnt the time to get wild and crazy.
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And how is trading ONE PLAYER getting all wild and crazy???
Ford is not that damn important.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:37 pm
DorianTroll — Having a creative, innovative mind for Offense is way different than having a reactionary, Defensive mind. There are excellent long-time Defensive coaches throughout the League who have never worked on the other side of the ball…and they’d make terrible playcallers.
I’m thinking if D.A was ready to call plays on O, he would be doing it.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:38 pm
doriangray, #210,
Watch out Dorian,you are crossing the line regarding respect and irreverence. There is a blog policeman this very moment cutting and pasting your comment and emailing it to Corky.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Armond Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
mckenzie also said that u have to check the waiver wire and get some the college FA’S along with some under the radar FA’s. there are several ways to fill out our roster without doing the stupid sh1t constantly talked about in here. i believe we will go after some vets who can play well on special teams and challenge for playing time if not start for us. i expect mm34 to have competition as the #2 SS. we may have the same starters but have better depth behind certain guys who can fill in if needed. we need depth at certain positions more than we need an overhaul.
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Raider Nation targets via drat
NT
Dontari Poe, Memphis St.
Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, Baylor
DT
Marcus Forston, Miami
pass rushers – under the radar
Brandon Lindsay, Pitt
Kyle Wilber, Wake Forest
Akiem Hicks, Regina, Canada
Inside LB or OLB
Audie Cole, N.C. St.
Carmen Messina, New Mexico
Tyler Nielson, Iowa
corner depth
Dwight Bentley, Univ Louisiana-Lafayette
Josh Norman, Coastal Carolina (Mike Mayock thought he distinguished himself in Senior Bowl)
Trumaine Johnson, Montana
Robert Blanton, Notre Dame
Micah Pellerin, Hampton
OL
Desmond Wynn, Rutgers
Mitchell Schwartz, OT, Cal
Lamar Holmes, OT, S.Miss
OG
Senio Kelemente, Washington
cheap FA
Gary Guyton, LB, Patriots
Tim Dobbins, LB, Chiefs
Roderick Hood, CB, Rams
Greg Toler, CB, Cardinals (coming off injury, though)
Breno Giacomini, OT, Seahawks
Geoff Schwartz, OG/OT, Panthers
Anthony Collins, OT, Bengals (a real find, likely Cincy snaps him right up)
a little more pricey
Robert Mathis, Colts
Courtland Finnegan, Titans (such a goon, perfect Raider, lol)
Aaron Ross, Giants
Adam Snyder, Niners
Richard Marshall, Cardinals (no way he’s leaving AZ, too good)
February 1st, 2012 at 10:40 pm
djohnnyg, #213
Bruschi has had a few too many concussions.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
this isnt the time to get wild and crazy.
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And how is trading ONE PLAYER getting all wild and crazy???
Ford is not that damn important.
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Hey, Ford is good stuff if he can lay off the bone enhancers. He’s another weapon in our wide reciever arsonal.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:41 pm
214.Hardline Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RaidO, #208
Sounds familiar RaidO: 1st down, run up the middle for a 2 yd gain; 2nd down; pass to dhb, dropped; 3rd down, run up the middle no gain, or CP gets dumped by the rush losing 10 yds. 4th down, unnecessary roughness 15 yds backwards, then punt, opposition recovers on the 50 yd line, score the next play – long pass.
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Sounds like you just finished watching…let’s see….EVERY SINGLE GAME WE PLAYED LAST YEAR.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RaiderSam, #218
Nice accounting of potential draft picks Sam. The problem is we only have 2 (picks) after HueJack made “the greatest trade in football.”
February 1st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
how amusing .. im so proud to be labeled a troll .. trolls wear cool shoes. maybe if i posted about my political stance or what happend in 1978 or my racist beliefs then i wouldnt be a troll . there are billions of people on the planet earth dude. we dont all think the same.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
You are correct djohnnyg, lol.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
So we went from 3 picks to 2 picks after the great trade …
HUGE drop in draft picks, eh?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
In other words, you are a sheep.
Why not just say that from the beginning?
You blindly go along, regardless, and never ever question anything.
That’s what sheep do.
Have a baaaaaaa-d day.
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HayesDaze37 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
WTF is all the whining about?? 2-weeks ago, this blog was crawling with people saying they had faith in letting the new HC build his own staff…now, there’s a bunch of sniveling, and threats to jump ship.
Hello!?! If you’re going to jump, just jump already…nobody here will care. Especially since half of these “threats” are made by new-name trolls just shopping for a little dust-up. Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Dennis Allen will take full control of his team…he said so at the presser. Both McKenzie and Allen are doing exactly what they said they would do when they got here.
Knapp will run an Offense the way Allen wants it run, or he won’t call plays long. D.A. will run this team. I’m not that thrilled with the Knapp hire, but I’m not disappointed, either. They all get the benefit of the doubt from me at this point. There’s no reason to think Knapp’s not a better coach, and a better play-caller now than a few years ago. He has/will have talent on this team, and CPalmer will make his Offense work.
Those saying CPalmer can’t run a WCO don’t know what they’re talking about.
Those saying DMC isn’t a one-cut back don’t know what they’re talking about.
Those who say we should swap MBush29 for Hillis are just plain crazy.
Those saying this team is suddenly a ZBS team don’t know what they’re talking about. Houston’s O used different blocking schemes. Just like on Defense, using multiple schemes, maximizing our playmakers’ individual talents will be key. Whatever scheme works, I’m for.
Just Win, Baby.
In ReggieMcK and Dennis Allen I trust.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
208-but it seems Knapp will (go) back to his old ways.
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It seems you are jumping to conclusions without seeing him call one play for our offense.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I really like what this new GM and HC are doing. Somebody got their heads screwed on pretty good. Now lets go win some ball games. Ooops, we still need that DC.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
doriangray, 233:
Our speech and expression are now being burdened, by Corky, I would argue contrary to our 1st Amendment rights.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Whoops, my bad, Seymour (but you DO know what vascillating means, right? If not Merriam Webster is awaiting your call. .. .).
I didn’t thoroughly decipher the author of comment # 101, Chris from NY. . .I misread the thread when he proclaimed Knapp as the height of mediocre. . .sorry, bro. . .this point & counterpoint thing is sometimes built up too much. . .especially when I’m watching two b-ball games simultaneous to blogging. . .the girlfriend left the room in disgust. . .
One thing to take into consideration. . .the Raidere are onlu one year removed from the dreaded ZBS. The only Raiders bereft in this knowledge are Lil’ Wiz & Joe Barksdale. . .so the transition should be more smooth than one might think (talking about a total rebuild. . .)
February 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Man, Dorian, that’s some creative outta the box thinking. . .only one thing wrong. . .
If this was a recipe for success why isn’t Belichick doing (among others) that?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
yep hardline.. i noticed that the blog was hijacked by communists way back. youd think this was a soft colts blog or a homo 49ers blog . corkan is a publican so he gets mad at political comments. aint this posed to be a raiders blog ? for raiders fans? might as well be a pop warner football blog now.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
any content based suppression of speech or expression is a Constitutional violation under the 1st and 14th Amendments. The problem is the suppression must come from a state action, meaning private actors can inhibit speech. I am sure Bay Area News Group is a private actor……so there goes the violation.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Those saying CPalmer can’t run a WCO don’t know what they’re talking about.
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Palmer IS NOT A WCO QB:
The quarterback has to be extremely accurate, quickly scan the field, be willing to develop those close relationships with his receivers, and be able to roll out in a play-action, as the WCO has begun to incorporate more “moving pockets”, “mobile qb” to offset the increased speed of the modern NFL pass rush. In the traditional scheme, the quarterback should be getting the ball out of his hands within three seconds. It’s a quick strike offense that starts with the quarterback. Outside of the Reid/Kyle Shanahan WCO, throwing the deep ball isn’t really needed all too much aside from the occasional shot downfield.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:50 pm
what you say is correct. not only that, there are several regular contributors here, working with Corky to report violators.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:50 pm
In the last 90 min MR has posted under no less than 5 different names.
Can he BE any more pathetic?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:51 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Those saying DMC isn’t a one-cut back don’t know what they’re talking about.
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McFadden told Jackson that he liked “just getting downhill” in a power running scheme, instead of the slower-developing zone scheme. He said he liked to “make one cut and go.” “And then of course I like being on the edge so I could use some of my speed more,” McFadden added.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Teams these days are a combination of musical chairs and corporate greed. Al Davis kept Raider tradition by sticking true to his instincts. Now it seems the coaching staff is a hodge podge of anyone who’ll take a job. I guess we get this by bringing the Raiders into the 21st century. WTH.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Sheep? Haha.
I’ve got plenty of opinions that might (or might not) differ from the Org’s stance…such as believing we should trade DMC and keep Bush…and such as being not too happy about the Knapp re-hire.
However…I’m not gonna get panty-twisted like so many of you others, who are so quick to throw in the towel. For all we know, this could be a great staff taking shape…and the team has plenty of potential to be good.
Not whining about it, and looking forward to better things, is not being a sheep. It’s being optimistic. One can be optimistic and still have disagreements with his team’s actions. I just hope they work out, and I won’t jump ship even if they don’t work out. There’s always more ways to improve.
Optimism…try it sometime.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RaidO?
I didn’t say that. Hayes did. I quoted his comment.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RaidO, #234
You are correct RaidO. CP is almost totally immobile in the pocket, incapable of evading the rush, cannot roll out to improvise success out of a busted play, and cannot scramble whatsoever. Hence his high rate of INT’s throwing as he gets hit.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:56 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RaidO?
I didn’t say that. Hayes did. I quoted his comment.
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Sorry dude. Miss Post.
HayesDaze37 knows that was for him
February 1st, 2012 at 10:56 pm
235.Hardline Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:50 pm
what you say is correct. not only that, there are several regular contributors here, working with Corky to report violators.
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Yes. I think those u allude to are deriving much satisfaction in doing so as well.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Reality, Hayes. Try it sometime.
You already make it clear you will always toe the company line, like good little sheep do.
They rush to squash any talk that doesn’t praise all.
You said it above. “They all get the benefit of the doubt from me.” Yes, a sheep.
You’re so pathetic you actually believe that if you question the team, you’re less of a fan.
Actually you’re just more of a mouse.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
perfect offense for Terrell Pryor. . .he can roll out, eh (tongue firmly planted in my cheek)?
February 1st, 2012 at 10:58 pm
The Raider Brew Crew and the Shaggin Ground Keepers Exclusive #238,
AD stuck true to his instincts, huh ? Well those wonderful instincts gained him 9 winning seasons out of the past 29 since we last won the Superbowl.
Now then, if you call alzheimers fantasies, failed and unresurrected genius, Al’s “instincts”, who am to dispute that?
The worst part of it was we were treated to pus-filled, oozing open sores during Al’s press conferences.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Chris In NY Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Did anyone else happen to notice that Ron Wolf’s son was promoted into Reggie’s former position in Green Bay?
I’m not suggesting Ron Wolf would suggest Chubby Checker for Raiders GM just to advance his own son’s career. But the appearance of impropriety there has to at least throw a little cold water on the recommendation.
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I and a couple other astute posters said the same thing as soon as the “recommendation” news broke.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:59 pm
djohnnyg #243,
Johnny, I call it, “the crown of their moral superiority”, tattling to Corky against the wrong-doers.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
“pus-filled, oozing open sores”
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I saw them in concert. They’re awesome.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
You guys discussing CPalmer don’t know what you’re talking about. He has excellent feet in the pocket, and he knows how to get out of the pocket. He knows how to step-up in a collapsing pocket and throw the ball accurately.
Some of CPalmer’s best plays ever at SC and in Cincy, were on plays he rolled out of the pocket. He’s no Mike Vick while running…but Palmer knows how to use his pocket better than Vick ever did.
Knapp will know how to use CPalmer’s talents…and the Raiders O will be top-10 with either a healthy DMC or MBush holding up for the year.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Hardline Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RaiderSam, #218
Nice accounting of potential draft picks Sam. The problem is we only have 2 (picks) after HueJack made “the greatest trade in football.”
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oh yeah, thats right…..well maybe they can swing some trades? (LOL)
February 1st, 2012 at 11:01 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Reality, Hayes. Try it sometime.
You already make it clear you will always toe the company line, like good little sheep do.
They rush to squash any talk that doesn’t praise all.
You said it above. “They all get the benefit of the doubt from me.” Yes, a sheep.
You’re so pathetic you actually believe that if you question the team, you’re less of a fan.
Actually you’re just more of a mouse.
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PLEASE, ENOUGH OF THE PURSE SWINGING. THIS IS NOT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HERE. NOW BEHAVE.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:01 pm
ya know , i was watching the interview with cam newton and the guy says to him. ” youre like -6-5 ? 240 , right ” ? ” theres not many guys like u that can run and throw wit yur size ” . and i instantly thought about terrel pryor. hes taller weighs more and im sure he can run faster , pryor also has a strong arm . all we have to wonder about is if he can throw accurate passes and can he operate in a pocket ? reading defesnes & such .
February 1st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Mum-O-killowe, #247
interesting theory
February 1st, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Hardline Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RaidO, #234
You are correct RaidO. CP is almost totally immobile in the pocket, incapable of evading the rush, cannot roll out to improvise success out of a busted play, and cannot scramble whatsoever. Hence his high rate of INT’s throwing as he gets hit.
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Brady isn’t exactly Michael Vick, and he does just fine. You did see him side step and shuffle out of trouble to hit Denarious Moore on a strike v. San Diego.
Palmer didnt like the WCO at Cincinnati, but ITS DONE. Let’s let the season play out, and judge then.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:06 pm
211.J Hill Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:34 pm
stop falling in love with changing YOUR tune about players day to day like a woman. u always speculate about a 3-4 and the sh!t doesnt happen. how do you know shawny couldnt play end in a 34?
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What players have I changed my tune about?
I specualte about the 3-4 when the coaches try and hire 3-4 personell.
ShoNasty has never played OLB before, has he? You fine with experimenting with that type of dumb da dumb dumb shyytee then I think all that bad buffet food is phuggin with your brain.
You like the team the way it is. Don’t want to trade anyone to try and get better at other positions that are CLEAR needs.
Got it.
How’s that working for the Ws????
——————————————————-fugg you and that biotchazz dubs comment. u have changed your mind on shawny,dmc and ford to name a few. u have advocated trading more than just 1 guy. who in the fugg said that the team should COMPLETELY stay as is? we will get some FA’s and draft picks. i dont believe in trading quality players that make us have an advantage over teams. ford is better than u give him credit for. A wr and returner who can be a game changer. are u so simple you dont understand that we can upgrade those other positions without getting rid of our core? i think bri@n is right about the jerri juice fuggin with your head. most of the pieces are in place and yall either too stupid or blind to notice. u got alot of nerve thinkin that im with the dumb da da dumb sh!t when YOU thought trevor scott was gonna be a MLB a few years ago. u speculating on us going to a 3-4 when dennis allen just said 2 much is made of that. u never saw me say shawny playing anything other than DE.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:06 pm
HayesDaze37, #250
That may be true Hayes, but CP for SC a long, long time ago before suffering severe knee injuries in the pros.
He’s lost at least 4 or 5 steps since then. I watched every game he played in for us and I noticed his lack of mobility, inability to evade the rush and roll out.
He still can pass, but it’s tough to do without throwing many INT’s as a bevy of 300 lb lineman are bearing down.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Hardline,
That’d be pretty low of Ron Wolf to take advantage of Mark like that, knowing he doesn’t know anything about what to do with his dad gone and seizing the ooportunity to advance his son’s cause.
I will say that the McKenzie hire seemed to be pretty well heralded across the media outlets as being a solid one.
For what that’s worth of course.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:08 pm
pryor also has a strong arm . all we have to wonder about is if he can throw accurate passes and can he operate in a pocket ? reading defesnes & such .
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Yeah,that’s all,just those minor things.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:09 pm
00 — I don’t know what you didn’t get about me saying I disagree plenty…but I’m always a fan.
Never said you weren’t a fan…just said you don’t know what you’re talking about regarding CPalmer. Sorry I hurt your feelings, dude.
Raiders have a GOOD chance to be a Playoff team next season. Why can’t I believe in the guys putting the team together? Can’t we see how the team comes together before condemning it? Hey, if not, do your thing.
But…if somebody comes in here just to say they’re quitting being a fan, or jumping ship…who cares? A fan who is on the wagon, off the wagon, back on when they’re winning isn’t a real fan. He’s a loser. That’s just the way it is.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:09 pm
I know CP is our QB next season, and I wouldn’t try to cut or trade him since he cost us way too much to get. I am just saying that we saw the best CP has to offer this past season. The well is dry after that and the light is off.
Hopefully the OC will install a scheme so that CP sheds the ball more quickly, beef up the O-line to take pressure off him.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:12 pm
oh yeah.. new post . lol
February 1st, 2012 at 11:14 pm
djohnnyg, #258
Johnny, I wouldn’t discount a mercenary spirit in Wolf regarding his son. Much more egregious acts have been committed by lesser men. And Mark, well, he’s not the brightest bulb in the pack; he could fall to such manipulation, especially with John Madden’s recommendation, who by the way has had nothing to do with football management since the stone age.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Carson Palmer tried to run the west coast offense at USC under Paul Hackett and looked worse than Jamarcus Russell did trying to run it…
and that one of the reasons he wanted out of Cinci. Jay Gruden was brought in and runs a WCO.
Palmer will be traded.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:17 pm
lefty12 Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
We will have the same QB,the same RB(McFadden),the same WRs,the same nucleus in the Oline.We will have most of the same starters on Def.How does that equate to rebuilding the team?Since you seem to be the one without a clue,I’ll answer it for you-it doesn’t.
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It equates to rebuilding the team because the concensus is by value and skills sets of who they hired Allen is going to change the O to a ZBS and hybrid the D more.
It equate to rebuilding when you keep 1 or 2 staffers and let the rest walk for people that are not condsidered by some to be an upgrade.
Seems like a rebuild to me or a serious over haul. Pulling that big of a change with the questionable group of acquaintances and freinds Allens made in his short time seems like a tall order to have us competing for the play offs next season but sure hope so.
Lot of talent. One of the best teams Davis assembled. Have to see who stays and goes. Could get crazy, could stay pretty much the same roster wise but I think many may go.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:17 pm
RaidO, #264,
The question is, traded when ?
February 1st, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RaiderWeaponX #265
Weapon, hmmmmmm……one of the best teams Davis every assembled? I could go on and on, but consider this: can you really compare the running tandem of Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson, to McGlassfeet and Bush ?
If you can, that is a huge leap of faith and logic.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Hardline Says:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:17 pm
RaidO, #264,
The question is, traded when ?
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Before the draft would be the best bet. I hope the Raiders don’t gamble on Carson running Knapps WCO next season. Very bad gamble. “INT and pick 6 city”
February 1st, 2012 at 11:23 pm
New Post —————->>>>>>>>
February 1st, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RaidO, #268,
As much as I would like to see that happen, I doubt that it will. Management’s view point is move the ball down the field with safe passes and runs, and allow the D to win the game.
Plus, we would take a total bath money and pick wise to trade CP. The Raiders are not the most solvent club in the group.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Perhaps you should read more instead of just selected items.I stated we are rebuilding the organization,but the team we put on the field,the players, will be pretty much the same team we put on the field last year.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:28 pm
As far as trade value for CP, I didn’t see any team jumping to pick him up after he quit on the Bengals. I think his trade value, cash and picks, is light – very light.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:29 pm
lefty12 #271,
only god can help us then Lefty, and doubt he wants to be involved.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
I just can’t see us going better than 6 and 10.
February 1st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Management’s view point is move the ball down the field with safe passes and runs, and allow the D to win the game.
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You don’t know this to be fact.This is just something you are assuming.But don’t let facts get in the way of a good argument.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:57 am
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