Griffith added to staff
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Former Raiders fullback Justin Griffith has been added to the coaching staff as a quality control coach, the club announced while confirming several staff hires.
Griffith played for the Atlanta Falcons while offensive coordinator Greg Knapp was there as well as Raiders head coach Dennis Allen.
Oakland also confirmed the return of running backs coach Kelly Skipper and assistant offensive line coach Steve Wisniewski as well as the addition of offensive line coach Frank Pollack, strength coach Al Miller and assistant strength coach John Grieco.
Eric Sanders, a quality control assistant for the last two years, will also return.
Among the positions the Raiders have not hired include defensive coordinator, quarterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends, defensive line, linebackers and secondary. The Raiders did not have a quarterbacks coach last season.
The club reportedly has sought permission to talk with Packers cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt Jr. about the defensive coordinator position, but it’s not yet known if Whitt is still under contract. If Whitt is under contract, it would be the Packers’ call as to whether to allow him the opportunity to interview for another job.
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February 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Always number one!
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
First, but will defer.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
That’s a good suggestion, but I refuse to plan a party around anything featuring the Cheats and that chick Ellen Brady.
Instead I’ll be sailing the Reggae Party boat and 75 VIP guests to Catalina Island, getting some romantic fellatio from some Cal State Long Beach sorority hos, macking on shrimp cocktails and doing ecstasy until my nads go numb.
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DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@Master Beeecham
You haven’t shared your Super Bowl party plans yet!
Suggestion: Get your laies to cover themselves in bean dip and walk around with a plate of chips…somthing to start with.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
641.qodrn1 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Also, an ESPN “insider” is posting the Payton has been cleared to play.
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If we hadn’t traded for Palmer I would be screaming for the Raiders to go after Manning, especially since it will not cost a team any picks since the Colts will be forced to cut him before he gets his $28 million dollar bonus.
Since the Raiders are out, I’d like to see him end up in SF or NYJ. He deserves to be on a team with a great defense for once.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
repost:
“Sanders returns for his third season with the Raiders and first as defensive quality control coach. A native of San Francisco, Sanders was an offensive assistant on the Raiders coaching staff for two years (2010-11).”
The guy with the 800 page play book an offensive expert is demoted to quality control coach of the defense because he was still under contract.
If Al Davis did this to a well respected coach instead of DA he would be crucified by the media all week for this.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Albert Puss, we’re not interested in what you do in your diapers
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Albert Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Always number one!
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
29th!……..oh wait, that was our Defense.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
For the money IDK if Myers is worth it thought.. Is he gonna be that much of an upgrade.
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The upgrade would be huge. At it gives us some serious depth and flexibility on the interior of our line. Myers has done a great job blocking some big time DT’s.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
J Hill Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
JFB will be in town on business, O.
He’s taking cab around for goodness sakes.
If you want to hook up with him, you should be able to roll 30 minutes to a plush golf course.
You could meet us after the round at the 19th hole if you don’t play.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You have my email. Let me know.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
The guy with the 800 page play book an offensive expert is demoted to quality control coach of the defense because he was still under contract.
If Al Davis did this to a well respected coach instead of DA he would be crucified by the media all week for this.
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Pssst… Eric Sanders, not Al Saunders.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Beeecham, I hope your boat sinks.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
This keeps getting better & better!?!?!
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
16th!!
Oh wait that was our offense.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Silver,
Eric Sanders … not Al Saunders!
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I found myself asking wtf does a quality control coach actually do, so I did some digging and found this:
“The Role of an NFL Quality Control Coach
The path to become an NFL head coach can be rigorous. An education along with a football background helps. Being able to teach and communicate is an asset as well. However, even if you were born into the middle of a coaching tree (see Kyle Shanahan), you still have to pay your dues to get there. You can take the road through the High school and college ranks in order to gain the background experience necessary, but in many instances you will need to do an internship as a Quality Control Coach.
Contemporary coaches are always searching for an edge over their opponents. Now that the Computer Age is upon us, the analyzing has become more technical. Many of those coaches have assistants called the “Quality Control Coach.” However, the QCC doesn’t really do much coaching at all. They spend all day multitasking, breaking down film up to five weeks in advance and analyzing data. They work all hours, in hotel lobbies, on airplanes and at their team’s headquarters producing reports for their Head Coach. They do get to do some coaching though. The QC coaches often run the “Scout” team in practices. From their extensive film work and breaking down plays, the QCC can be a great help preparing their team because they know the tendencies of their opponents. They make sure the Scout teams give the starters an accurate look at what they’ll face on Sunday in practice during game weeks.
Denver Broncos Head Coach John Fox knows just what to do more with the data from his QC Coaches. In addition to being able to call up any game on video, he can pull up any statistic to match that play. “What you do is chart the tendency of that (opposing) coach, so that you can tell your team that ‘in this situation it’ll always be a run or always be a pass,’” says Fox. “So your team knows what to expect.”
Quality-control coaches also learn N.F.L. systems from the long hours spent watching film. In no time they absorb the ins and outs of the chess match known as football and the ingenious distinctions between wins and losses. They also pickup how Pro teams organize their practices and their off-season, weight training and conditioning programs. Having access to the scouting, all the video, the personnel departments and the front office, the Quality Control Coach might be the best on the job training for anyone aspiring to become an NFL Head Coach.
Todd Haley called it:
“The greatest job in football as far as learning.”
Tony Sparano added:
“That job was the most valuable experience I had. That was my first piece of work in this league. Quality control rounded me, made me a better coach.”
The position as we know it in modern day football was created by Mike Holmgren in 1990 when he was the Offensive Coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers. Mike needed someone to transcribe the Niners Playbook and copy it to a computer. That someone was Jon Gruden. The job also included analyzing opponents, breaking down statistics, tracking and charting plays during games and fetching coffee. Gruden earned a salary of $500 a month, turned 18 hour days and often spent his nights on a cot in the office drawing up plays on his computer. Burning the midnight oil allowed him to pick up the necessary seasoning for his jobs as Head Coach with Oakland and Tampa Bay.
Gruden:
“I was one of the first guys in the 49ers organization to put the game plan on a computer and store the information so that it was accessible next week, next year and later on down the road for future games. Over the years, all of my computer files became outdated because the software improved. We had to hire a couple of guys – we called them the ‘sweatshop’ – to go in there and really do nothing but re-draw all of the plays and re-type all of the information. That’s not a lot of fun, but when you’re doing that you learn the offense. You learn what ‘Zoom’ is and what ‘Slot’ is, and what the difference is. You learn the different protections and blocking schemes and calls that are made.”
The list of NFL coaches that have completed an “Apprenticeship” as the QC Coach include Todd Haley, Eric Mangini, Steve Spagnuolo, Brad Childress, Tony Sparano and Raheem Morris. Former Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan’s son Kyle did a QCC stint under Jon Gruden with Tampa Bay in 2004 and is now the Offensive Coordinator for the Houston Texans. Don’t be surprised if Kyle isn’t a Head Coach sometime in the near future. Other NFL sons that are currently employed as QC Coaches are Tony Sparano, Jr., Kevin Gilbride, Jr., Sam Mills III, Bobby April, Jr., Chad Grimm and Ryan Slowik. The Offensive Quality Control Coach for the Denver Broncos is Brian Callahan, son of former head coach Bill Callahan. On Defense, that distinction belongs to Jay Rodgers. Hopefully, the next step up for these QC coaches will be as a position coach.
Tim Berbenich spent his first two seasons (2006-07) as an offensive quality control coach with Tampa Bay. He is entering his fifth season with the Buccaneers in 2010 and second as assistant wide receivers coach.
“Our number one responsibility is to get the coaches prepared to start studying the game plans,” Berbenich said. “At the end of the day, I have to draw the plays, and if I don’t know them I can’t draw them. If you don’t know what they’re doing on defense you can’t break the film down. You can’t just know what one guy does, you have to know what all 11 players are doing. As far as drawing the plays and learning the playbook, I learned it all. I had no choice.”
That $500 a month salary is roughly $22,000 per year these days. The QC job has become so important that even Special-Teams coordinators are asking for their own Quality-Control coaches, and QC coaches now have agents.
If Quality is Job One as the Ford Motor Company claims, The Quality Control Coach is an essential element to any NFL team.”
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
http://twitter.com/RAIDERS/status/165123829318955008/photo/1
This is a link to a picture of the RAider Indy Car.
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
5.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
repost:
“Sanders returns for his third season with the Raiders and first as defensive quality control coach. A native of San Francisco, Sanders was an offensive assistant on the Raiders coaching staff for two years (2010-11).”
The guy with the 800 page play book an offensive expert is demoted to quality control coach of the defense because he was still under contract.
If Al Davis did this to a well respected coach instead of DA he would be crucified by the media all week for this.
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You are thinking of Saunders, not Sanders?????
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Lmao at #5 and #10!
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
16th!!
Oh wait that was our offense.
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Hehe
Both will be better next year.
I love koolaid.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
That’s a good suggestion, but I refuse to plan a party around anything featuring the Cheats and that chick Ellen Brady.
Instead I’ll be sailing the Reggae Party boat and 75 VIP guests to Catalina Island, getting some romantic fellatio from some Cal State Long Beach sorority hos, macking on shrimp cocktails and doing ecstasy until my nads go numb
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Possibly Capt Steubing’s funniest post to date..
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
“Silver,
Eric Sanders … not Al Saunders!”
Thanks guys I just had a blond moment!
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Albert Puss, even if my party boat sinks you’ll still be going #1 in your diapers.
Gots to keep it real, whut
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
“Among the positions the Raiders have not hired include defensive coordinator, quraterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends, defensive line, linebackers and secondary.”
Am I the only one concerned?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
First, but will defer.
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Hue said you mean Decline right?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
A short clip of the Master of the Reggae Party Boat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3zMpCuUpg&feature=fvsr
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Would have been nice if our Raiders would have at least offered Manusky the linebackers coaching position. If he would have taken that position then we could have refused permission for the damn Colts to interview him, what are you thoughts on this?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Pack your bags Raider Nation! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/200-million-reasons-why-its-time-for.html
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
That’s close, except that skanky island ho next to me would be greasing up my wanker with bronzing cream
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PlunkforHOF Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
A short clip of the Master of the Reggae Party Boat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3zMpCuUpg&feature=fvsr
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
greggrosenthal gregg rosenthal
Sterling Moore on diff. between oakland and NE: shakes head, “much more … businesslike here”
9 hours ago Retweeted by @CorkOnTheNFL
I know it’s old news but damn, I thought these days were over
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
greggrosenthal gregg rosenthal
Sterling Moore on diff. between oakland and NE: shakes head, “much more … businesslike here”
9 hours ago Retweeted by @CorkOnTheNFL
I know it’s old news but damn, I thought these days were over
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Al’s dead….they are.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Teach, good points on 608 last post. Some ZBS schooled guys on O line. Good post.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
I hope Rod Woodson is either retained or asked back. Lots of positions to be filled. Pretty exciting times in The Nation!
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Those bashing Branch clearly don;t know or remember what it was like at Safety before Al hit on Branch in the 4th round.
Yikes man…
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Dorsett strike fear into your heart?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Has Rod Woody definatly gone?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
33.RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Those bashing Branch clearly don;t know or remember what it was like at Safety before Al hit on Branch in the 4th round.
Yikes man…
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Lots of pass TDs and missed tackles….like with Branch!
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Romo, 95.7, Mark Davis is having talks with sharing stadium with SF…
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I hope they keep Eddie Anderson on the staff.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
” Mark Davis is having talks with sharing stadium with SF…”
Good this is a very short light rail ride for me!!
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Romo, 95.7, Mark Davis is having talks with sharing stadium with SF…
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@Dutch
Help me out. I’m listening to the game bet stepped out for a bit.
Cliff notes on what was said?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
For the money IDK if Myers is worth it thought.. Is he gonna be that much of an upgrade.
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The upgrade would be huge. At it gives us some serious depth and flexibility on the interior of our line. Myers has done a great job blocking some big time DT’s.
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Myers would be stellar if the $ worked out. We have his old OLC and OC. We could keep Sampson and save some $ there too. With Myers our O line would be in great shape.
Dare I say best O line in the NFL?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Branch doesnt miss many tackles.. Pretty poor on coverage, but thats the norm for our secondary..
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
29.inonewordraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
greggrosenthal gregg rosenthal
Sterling Moore on diff. between oakland and NE: shakes head, “much more … businesslike here”
9 hours ago Retweeted by @CorkOnTheNFL
I know it’s old news but damn, I thought these days were over
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He sounds a lttle bitter to me, who gives a fk what he said anyway, he plays for the cheatriots, Eli’s going to torch that secondary, you can print that!!!
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Those bashing Branch clearly don;t know or remember what it was like at Safety before Al hit on Branch in the 4th round.
Yikes man…
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Yeah, we could re-sign Stuey! Schweigert was the Director of Player Development for the Saginaw Sting…
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Jraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
“Among the positions the Raiders have not hired include defensive coordinator, quraterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends, defensive line, linebackers and secondary.”
Am I the only one concerned?
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No need. Lots of good position coaches out there. Once we the hire the defensive coordinator, everything else will fall into line.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
36. Not so much last few years. At first yes, but he improved alot. Not many of those ugly deep passes can be attributed to him last season unless he was swapping jerseys with Jerome Boyd on occasion
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
“Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.”
Lets see a $2 light rail ride to see my team or a $150 plane ticket….hmmmmmm
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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I assume that in order to get Mark’s buy-in, it would have to be a deal like Meadowlands stadium, with the colored louvres and whatnot to totally change the look of the facility at a moment’s notice.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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That didn’t work out so well the 1st time.
Winning means playing second fiddle to nobody.
Lakers / Clippers not a fair analogy.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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I assume that in order to get Mark’s buy-in, it would have to be a deal like Meadowlands stadium, with the colored louvres and whatnot to totally change the look of the facility at a moment’s notice.
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Sure.
If the Raiders strike a deal, the NFL will pony up additional bucks to make it happen.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
http://kaplanforoakland.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/oaklandlive.jpg
A picture of the Oakland proposed site for the Raiders. The city owns 11 miles of land between the Airport & Fruitville it will sell or use as a bargaining chip to get developer into the Coliseum City project, as well as 4 miles in west Oakland right across the Bay from SF, both LA groups want 40% ownership & some control of the of the Team they bring to LA. I believe the Davis family owns 47% of the team but has 100% control of the Raiders as long as the maintain 45% ownership or more. Will the Davis family give up total control of the Raiders? As for Santa Clara there are still 5,000 resident trying to sue the city to stop the project, no one really know what will happen over the next year as far as building a new stadium goes. These are uncertain time.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
5000 people are pissing in the wind.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
” As for Santa Clara there are still 5,000 resident trying to sue the city to stop the project, no one really know what will happen over the next year as far as building a new stadium goes. These are uncertain time.”
I live here in Santa Clara was born here as well so I understand the stadium issues and its going to happen, ground has been broken and permits have been issued its a done deal the only question left is this going to be a one team venue or a 2 team venue.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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Thought you would want the VikQueens to move to match the Laker Queer colors….
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Chaotic View also known as Raider Chaos is a Great Raiders fan, but not a bay area guy who has told me he has no loyaly to Oakland or the bay & really wants the Raiders to move to LA
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Vote NO!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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I agree. The Raiders would be “borrowing” the stadium every other week. A stadium I’m sure will be clad in Red.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Cfrylopez Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Vote NO!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
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Dude, you were doing well, posting relevant info…
But you just couldn’t help yourself.
Fight on…
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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I agree. The Raiders would be “borrowing” the stadium every other week. A stadium I’m sure will be clad in Red.
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What about the JETS/GIANTS? That a bad situation?
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
56.cfrylopez Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Chaotic View also known as Raider Chaos is a Great Raiders fan, but not a bay area guy who has told me he has no loyaly to Oakland or the bay & really wants the Raiders to move to LA
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Correctamundo! You guys can piss and whine all you want, but at the end of the day, Santa Clara belongs to the Whiners and the Raiders woiuld be a sub tenant. 2nd rate. And second, the City of Oakland is not going to cough up the 2-3 billion dollars it is going to cost what the City Of LA already has in place. Mark will go where the money is…. Pack your bags!!!!!
http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/200-million-reasons-why-its-time-for.html
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Jraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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I agree. The Raiders would be “borrowing” the stadium every other week. A stadium I’m sure will be clad in Red.
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Read RaiderDucks post regarding the Jets / Giants shared Stadium.
Mark, imo, would not sign off on a RED and GOLD stadium deal.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
What about the JETS/GIANTS? That a bad situation?
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That’s the model.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Raiders should borrow the stadium for two years, while the newly remodeled stadium is rebuilt, right where it stands today.
If during those two years, the city of Oakland balks, than they are going to have to move on.
To borrow a great line from the Wire:
“It’s not personal, it’s business. Always business”
-The Greek
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
cfrylopez Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Chaotic View also known as Raider Chaos is a Great Raiders fan, but not a bay area guy who has told me he has no loyaly to Oakland or the bay & really wants the Raiders to move to LA
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Hes a great fan but his blog is sh-ite. No nutritional value.
Its the OAKLAND RAIDERS far as I’m concerned and always should be. p-izz on L.A.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Jraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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I agree. The Raiders would be “borrowing” the stadium every other week. A stadium I’m sure will be clad in Red.
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Read RaiderDucks post regarding the Jets / Giants shared Stadium.
Mark, imo, would not sign off on a RED and GOLD stadium deal.
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OK. Fair enough. So now we know its possible. So what is the benefit to the 9ers in allowing a shared stadium if they have already secured funding?
P.S – Dont think we have direct San Diego to Santa Clara flights.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Raiders should borrow the stadium for two years, while the newly remodeled stadium is rebuilt, right where it stands today.
If during those two years, the city of Oakland balks, than they are going to have to move on.
To borrow a great line from the Wire:
“It’s not personal, it’s business. Always business”
-The Greek
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If I could wave my magic wand, this is what would happen.
Colosseum location is best. Money is an issue.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
61. “Pi-ss and whine all we want”?
The only people doing that are the ones lamenting the time they wasted visiting your blah-gue.
I think what I think but am smart enough to know Mark ain’t Al.
The team will go where the money is. Period.
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Oh snap! Did JFB just mention Jimmy the Greek?!
Aulde school ref if it was…unfortunate end that…
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
65.RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
cfrylopez Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Chaotic View also known as Raider Chaos is a Great Raiders fan, but not a bay area guy who has told me he has no loyaly to Oakland or the bay & really wants the Raiders to move to LA
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Hes a great fan but his blog is sh-ite. No nutritional value.
Its the OAKLAND RAIDERS far as I’m concerned and always should be. p-izz on L.A.
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Love ya too! LOL…..
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Raider chaos I down with the raiders coming to LA, can u say season tickets, yeah boy!!!
Sorry Oaklanders but the move seems eminent .
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
68.RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
61. “Pi-ss and whine all we want”?
The only people doing that are the ones lamenting the time they wasted visiting your blah-gue.
I think what I think but am smart enough to know Mark ain’t Al.
The team will go where the money is. Period.
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So we agree on at least one thing then….. The Raiders will be in LA….Where the money is!
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Checking up at Super Bowl. The Raiders paid big money to hire Greg Knapp as OC, He’ll install zone blocking scheme.
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Big money for Knapp-time… He better deliver.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7531753&categoryid=2378529
Frank Caliendo talks about meeting Madden for the first time, and other things.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Not Jimmy the Greek, The Greek from The Wire.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Also pretty much says McFaddens a goner. Won’t keep both Bush annd DMC.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
So we agree on at least one thing then….. The Raiders will be in LA….Where the money is!
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Not if the money ends up in the developers pockets.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
75. Then I revoke my coolness points. Baltimore…sucks
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
The Federal Reserve can create a billion dollars in an instant. So why not just have them give that money to Oakland so that they can build a first class stadium and everybody will be happy. What is wrong with that?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
78.RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
So we agree on at least one thing then….. The Raiders will be in LA….Where the money is!
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Not if the money ends up in the developers pockets.
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That would be considered “illegal” and there are watchdogs who find those things out. Last thing Mark wants. Especially in this era of slow economic trends. Next….
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
71.da trinity Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Raider chaos I down with the raiders coming to LA, can u say season tickets, yeah boy!!!
Sorry Oaklanders but the move seems eminent .
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Sorry bruh, I will be first in line! LOL. Campin #NSchyt
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
80.Twocents Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
The Federal Reserve can create a billion dollars in an instant. So why not just have them give that money to Oakland so that they can build a first class stadium and everybody will be happy. What is wrong with that?
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I will call the Chairman of the Federal Reserve right now and see if he wants to go along with your option. Or maybe we should find out if Mitt Romney is concerned about the “Poor” and “Middle Class” who will be building this stadium….
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RaiderChaos Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
78.RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
So we agree on at least one thing then….. The Raiders will be in LA….Where the money is!
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Not if the money ends up in the developers pockets.
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That would be considered “illegal” and there are watchdogs who find those things out. Last thing Mark wants. Especially in this era of slow economic trends. Next….
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Next?
What percentage of ownership do the developers want?
What percentage does Mark Davis own?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
So dont keep bush…
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
There will be jobs for everyone. Hell the Fed gives money to foreign banks, why not poor old Oakland.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Occupy the Fed, demand that we get our fair share of conterfeit money.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Twocents Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Occupy the Fed, demand that we get our fair share of conterfeit money.
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LOL
No kidding.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
84.RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RaiderChaos Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
78.RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
So we agree on at least one thing then….. The Raiders will be in LA….Where the money is!
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Not if the money ends up in the developers pockets.
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That would be considered “illegal” and there are watchdogs who find those things out. Last thing Mark wants. Especially in this era of slow economic trends. Next….
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Next?
What percentage of ownership do the developers want?
What percentage does Mark Davis own?
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Carrol Davis owns 67% of the team at this moment. Once she dies, Mark will have to sell the majority share because of the Estate tax that will be handed down to him. He does not have the money. Of course, with the trends in this league, who knows what the true net worth of the team is right now, but I can tell you that Mark will have a pretty penny to pay. Betcha not too many people know about that….
As far as what the developers want, they are paid in contract sum. The revenue gets split annually amongst all stake holders. I do not do Amy Trasks’ job, so I don’t have exact figures.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I would like hear if Donatell is going to be interviewed or if the Allen has asked permission to the Niners?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Standard knowledge about inheritance tax.
Rams had to be sold because of inheritance tax that couldn’t be paid. couple of other teams as well.
How can Al’s wife own 67%? Thought Al owned 51%, and then sold some of that to raise money 5 yrs or so ago?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
91.R8rArt Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Standard knowledge about inheritance tax.
Rams had to be sold because of inheritance tax that couldn’t be paid. couple of other teams as well.
How can Al’s wife own 67%? Thought Al owned 51%, and then sold some of that to raise money 5 yrs or so ago?
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Thats the number. 67%. She and Mark inherited it, Mark just decided to wear the Managing General Partners cap.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Gregg Knapp is a joke, and will bite us for that hire. Has zero creativity, and is so predictable.
And neither Reggie or Allen know offense, so hold your breathe Raider fans because this could be ugly.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
73.wasbanned Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Checking up at Super Bowl. The Raiders paid big money to hire Greg Knapp as OC, He’ll install zone blocking scheme.
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Big money for Knapp-time… He better deliver.
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Is this a joke? Big money for Knapp? I sure hope that Mark put a out clause or whatever in his contract, No need to pay him big money for nothin if we do have to get somebody else after his first year of stinking up the place. I hope hes worth it, Reggie and Allen must think so, I guess we will see.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Where did you get 67%?
Again, seemed to be common knowledge that Al owned 51%, thus making all the decisions. Sold some 50 million worth, under the stip it couldn’t be sold to other partners, and only back to him, if sold.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
From an article written by Mike Silver October 10, 2011…
In an interview Sunday night, Raiders CEO Amy Trask, confirming comments she had made the previous night to the San Francisco Chronicle, told Y! Sports that “the team is not for sale. It will remain in the Davis family.”
Technically, Al Davis’ interest in the franchise will be passed to his wife, Carol, meaning that by law Mark can run the franchise without having to pay estate taxes. Upon his mother’s death, Mark would face a potentially hefty tax bill; however, an organizational source said that Al Davis anticipated this issue and put a plan in place that should allow the team to stay in the family under that circumstance.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
As far as Carrol Davis is concerned medical science has stipulated they could keep a potato alive indefinitely. . .so just keep the brain waves a notch above “flatline” and Mark avoids the hefty estate tax syndrome. . .
Is cliff Avril considered a playmaker? he can line up @ either end; now just ned a one technique tackle, an actual “Will” LB, a shutdown CB & depth (or upgrade) @ both safeties (SS can be handled by resigning Branch). . .
Wow; the NFL (what a surprise) firmly committed to the 40 whiners Santa Clara project. . .they will bank on the L.A. market procuring two teams via addition by subtraction. . .thus the stadium projects come full circle. . .
And Master Beechum IS the Love Goat. . .(strike up the theme music with an updated hip hop baseline. . .or something reminiscent of George Clinton. . .)
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Also, if Al’s wife and Marc inherited it, then they are on the hook for inheritance tax, now. Not when his wife dies.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Al Davis had owned 67 percent of the Raiders, but that dropped to 47 percent in 2007 when he sold a 20 percent interest to a group of investors led by East Coast businessmen David Abrams, director of the Abrams Capital investment firm, Paul Leff, founder of the Perry Corp. money-management firm, and Dan Goldring, managing director at Perry Corp. The deal gave the group no control of the franchise at the time of the sale or in the future.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/08/SPLP1LEMCC.DTL#ixzz1lH31fQPR
Per SFGate .com, the week after Davis passed.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
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February 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
256.armond Says:
u have changed your mind on shawny,dmc and ford to name a few. u have advocated trading more than just 1 guy. who in the f### said that the team should COMPLETELY stay as is? we will get some FA’s and draft picks. i dont believe in trading quality players that make us have an advantage over teams. ford is better than u give him credit for. A wr and returner who can be a game changer. are u so simple you dont understand that we can upgrade those other positions without getting rid of our core?
u got alot of nerve thinkin that im with the dumb da da dumb sh#t when YOU thought trevor scott was gonna be a MLB a few years ago. u speculating on us going to a 3-4 when dennis allen just said 2 much is made of that. u never saw me say shawny playing anything other than DE.
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Ok, you’re making shy##te# up now.
Trevor Scott at MLB??????
Was that one of my anyone in place of Morrison rants?
Please show me where I ever said he should be our MLB. Starting OLB over Groves??? Absolutely. Didn’t understand why that switch was made last preseason. Scott played well at OLB to finish that season. Better than Groves BY FAR, anyway.
I’ll trade anyone on the roster for THE RIGHT PRICE.
Just trade DMac??? NEVER said that. I’d trade him for 2 #1s though. He has NOT been a HOG for us. I’d replace him with Lynch and draft the best available player to upgrade my front 7. You talk about a gamble? DMac’s foot isn’t a gamble???
NEVER said trade ShoNasty until we started talking about Hue replacing the DC. He already tried last offseason to go with a 3-4 HC. We hired a GB GM and there were big rumors about Moss or Capers coming over. ShoNasty does NOT fit in a 3-4. NO I do NOT want to see him try and play OLB.
Ford is the 3rd best WR on the team, imo. We have PLENTY of receiving options. IF we can use Ford to get a starter at another position, I’m pulling the trigger.
Chopping up scenarios is what we do here, bruh. You like things the way they are. You trust the GM to fill in the gaps with UDFAs and low round draft picks instead of MAYBE cashing in a chip that another team is willing to overpay for. Well, I think THAT is some dumb da dumb dumb a##rsse thinking.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Why would private investors build a stadium for the Davis family?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Also, if Al’s wife and Marc inherited it, then they are on the hook for inheritance tax, now. Not when his wife dies.
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No, The federal estate tax law includes an unlimited marital exemption. This means that Davis could have passed as much as he wanted onto his wife — both before he passed away through gifting, and after through his estate plan — and none of it would be subject to the 35% estate tax.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
I was reading post 95,
And man say what u want about AL, but that man knew how to handle the business side of the NFL
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Family businesses, farms, houses all have to be sold to satisfy the voracious appetite of the ruling class.
After all, it is only your fair share they’re asking for.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
From an article posted October 9 2011 by Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle……
Al Davis had owned 67 percent of the Raiders, but that dropped to 47 percent in 2007 when he sold a 20 percent interest to a group of investors led by East Coast businessmen David Abrams, director of the Abrams Capital investment firm, Paul Leff, founder of the Perry Corp. money-management firm, and Dan Goldring, managing director at Perry Corp. The deal gave the group no control of the franchise at the time of the sale or in the future.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/08/SPLP1LEMCC.DTL#ixzz1lH4nkfWx
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
From an article written by Mike Silver October 10, 2011…
In an interview Sunday night, Raiders CEO Amy Trask, confirming comments she had made the previous night to the San Francisco Chronicle, told Y! Sports that “the team is not for sale. It will remain in the Davis family.”
Technically, Al Davis’ interest in the franchise will be passed to his wife, Carol, meaning that by law Mark can run the franchise without having to pay estate taxes. Upon his mother’s death, Mark would face a potentially hefty tax bill; however, an organizational source said that Al Davis anticipated this issue and put a plan in place that should allow the team to stay in the family under that circumstance.
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describe plan in place.
Seems the rams and the steelers lawyers would have applied any legal plan, if there is one. The IRS makes sure they get their money, lol..the bas****s
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
ShoNasty does NOT fit in a 3-4. NO I do NOT want to see him try and play OLB.
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Is he that different from Mario Williams? I thought the Mario Williams OLB was going to be a complete failure, but….
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
@Teach, #98 you beat me too it! lol
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Appears you’re right, Dutch. Seems Frontiere kept the Rams, and after her death her kids were saddled with the tax, and had to sell.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
In 1972, while managing general partner Valley was attending the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, Davis drafted a revised partnership agreement that made him the new managing general partner, with near-absolute control over team operations. McGah signed the agreement. Since two of the team’s three general partners had voted in favor of the agreement, it was binding under partnership law of the time. Valley sued to overturn the agreement once he returned to the country, but was unsuccessful. Valley sold his interest in 1976, and from that point onward none of the other partners had any role in the team’s operations. This was despite the fact that Davis did not acquire a majority interest in the Raiders until 2005, when he bought the shares held by McGah’s family. At his death he owned approximately 67 percent of the team.
In 2007, Davis sold a minority stake in the Raiders for $150 million and said that he would not retire until he wins two more Super Bowls or dies.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I can’t believe that Americans have become so compliant, so willing to be enslaved.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Id love to see gannon back in some capacity….itd be nice!!!!…and i can for sure seein it workin!
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Santa Clara Raiders??
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RaiderChaos
You would think that revised-partnership agreement would at least end with Al Davis’ death, no?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
R8rArt Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
From an article written by Mike Silver October 10, 2011…
In an interview Sunday night, Raiders CEO Amy Trask, confirming comments she had made the previous night to the San Francisco Chronicle, told Y! Sports that “the team is not for sale. It will remain in the Davis family.”
Technically, Al Davis’ interest in the franchise will be passed to his wife, Carol, meaning that by law Mark can run the franchise without having to pay estate taxes. Upon his mother’s death, Mark would face a potentially hefty tax bill; however, an organizational source said that Al Davis anticipated this issue and put a plan in place that should allow the team to stay in the family under that circumstance.
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describe plan in place.
Seems the rams and the steelers lawyers would have applied any legal plan, if there is one. The IRS makes sure they get their money, lol..the bas****s
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You’d have to ask Amy. lol
Al was nobody’s fool. Except for some players…ugh
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
@RaiderChaos
Dude do a NEWS google search, everything says 47%.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RaiderChaos
You would think that revised-partnership agreement would at least end with Al Davis’ death, no
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You know that man would not allow complete control to remain in the Davis family. LOL. That legal binding document pushed 2 partners out of the organization in a moment of trickery…. He wasn’t stupid.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
@RaiderChaos
Dude do a NEWS google search, everything says 47%.
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The 47% doesn’t work with the financial metrics of the downtown LA stadium.
He’s not willing to go there.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
116.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
@RaiderChaos
Dude do a NEWS google search, everything says 47%.
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Better then your Google search…. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
118.RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
@RaiderChaos
Dude do a NEWS google search, everything says 47%.
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The 47% doesn’t work with the financial metrics of the downtown LA stadium.
He’s not willing to go there.
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Len come on dude. If the NFL Owners gave the Raiders 200 Million to build, that means that the Raiders would only need to cough up 400 mil to build. Now because it is on AEG property, they would have to only cough up 200 mil and half of the ownership. Mark Davis makes out with 500 mil in his pocket, immediate revenue and half the revenue going forward. Who the hell wouldnt take that deal?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Oakland Live sounds like a GREAT idea. Let’s hope they cab pull it off.
What’s the backup plan?
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
121.J Hill Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Oakland Live sounds like a GREAT idea. Let’s hope they cab pull it off.
What’s the backup plan?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Santa Clara ….. Visitors Locker Room…
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Plain and simple….. The Raiders have no financial future in Oakland unless they move out of that Stadium. There is no reason to upgrade it, because renovation costs just as much as ground up, but no one has the funds there to build 2 stadiums. They are moving and my Raider Bretheren up north…. you guys need to tune up the rides and change the oil…. its time for some road trips…..
http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/200-million-reasons-why-its-time-for.html
Laters!!!!
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Let’s not pretend here, that we know the inner-workings of Raider finances.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RaiderChaos Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
118.RaiderLen Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
@RaiderChaos
Dude do a NEWS google search, everything says 47%.
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The 47% doesn’t work with the financial metrics of the downtown LA stadium.
He’s not willing to go there.
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Len come on dude. If the NFL Owners gave the Raiders 200 Million to build, that means that the Raiders would only need to cough up 400 mil to build. Now because it is on AEG property, they would have to only cough up 200 mil and half of the ownership. Mark Davis makes out with 500 mil in his pocket, immediate revenue and half the revenue going forward. Who the hell wouldnt take that deal?
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The 200 million to the Raiders is speculation on my part.
It’s in reference to the 200 million loan that was approved for the 49ers today. The only way the NFL cuts that check is if the Raiders and 49ers come to an agreement on a shared stadium in Santa Clara.
The estimated cost of that build is 1.1 BILLION.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Let’s not pretend here, that we know the inner-workings of Raider finances.
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No Kidding.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Sorry Chaos, it’s 47. Common knowledge…like the Earth being round.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
JLofty Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Sorry Chaos, it’s 47. Common knowledge…like the Earth being round.
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Yep.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
People pretend knowledge on here all day every d@mn day…
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
J Hill Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Oakland Live sounds like a GREAT idea. Let’s hope they cab pull it off.
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That’s the best possible outcome as far as i’m concerned.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The 200 million to the Raiders is speculation on my part.
It’s in reference to the 200 million loan that was approved for the 49ers today. The only way the NFL cuts that check is if the Raiders and 49ers come to an agreement on a shared stadium in Santa Clara.
The estimated cost of that build is 1.1 BILLION.
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The other Caveat is the Raiders are not the only franchise that is threatening to move to LA, the Rams, the Jaguars and Vikings all have threatened to move to LA…
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The 200 million to the Raiders is speculation on my part.
It’s in reference to the 200 million loan that was approved for the 49ers today. The only way the NFL cuts that check is if the Raiders and 49ers come to an agreement on a shared stadium in Santa Clara.
The estimated cost of that build is 1.1 BILLION.
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The other Caveat is the Raiders are not the only franchise that is threatening to move to LA, the Rams, the Jaguars and Vikings all have threatened to move to LA…
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I’d venture a guess that all of those Teams might be in a better position to actually make that move if “Ass nuts” the downtown developer wants a 40% stake in the team.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Later Fellas
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
67%
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
realtruraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
73.wasbanned Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Checking up at Super Bowl. The Raiders paid big money to hire Greg Knapp as OC, He’ll install zone blocking scheme.
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Big money for Knapp-time… He better deliver.
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hahaha..IF true, it makes me even more pissed Knapp was hired! Big money for Knapp??
WTF?
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Adam Schefter
Green Bay Packers named Tom Clements their new offensive coordinator Thursday.
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Knapp haters, ever wonder “what could have been?”
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Trent Edwards visited with the Eagles this week.
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Boller haters, ever wonder “what could have been?”
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I want the Giants to beat the Pats again, but I fot a value bet Pats -3 at +105.
I bet that and hope the Giants beat them!
If the Giants win, they I don’t mind losing a few hundred.
If the Pats win, than I get compensated for a team that I hate winning the Super Bowl! Lol
If I took the Giants money line, than I would be all in financially and emotionally on the Giants and that is not a good thing if they lose.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The 200 million to the Raiders is speculation on my part.
It’s in reference to the 200 million loan that was approved for the 49ers today. The only way the NFL cuts that check is if the Raiders and 49ers come to an agreement on a shared stadium in Santa Clara.
The estimated cost of that build is 1.1 BILLION.
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The other Caveat is the Raiders are not the only franchise that is threatening to move to LA, the Rams, the Jaguars and Vikings all have threatened to move to LA…
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The Rams could very well move. One of Jeff Fisher’s sticking points (and the reason he almost went to Miami instead) was the possibility of a move back to LA.
The Chargers can move any year they want now, as their lease contains an escape clause. They’ve said they won’t move THIS year, but nothing beyond that is guaranteed.
The Jaguars can only break their lease if they can show three straight years of operating losses, and even then it has to be approved by a FL judge. Tough, but not impossible.
The Vikings may be staying in MN, and a new stadium may be built on the current Metrodome site.
If the NFL really wants two teams back in LA, the Rams look like one, but the other could be us. I almost wonder if the league isn’t trying to subtly goose the Raiders back to LA with today’s announcement.
Remember that in LA, we wouldn’t be sharing a stadium. One team would get Farmer’s Field in downtown, and the other would get Ed Roski’s stadium out in the City of Industry.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Ravens have hired Jim Caldwell as their quarterbacks coach.
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another guy we could have tabbed as OC
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Or maybe the league wants that shared stadium. If they offer to pony up more $$$ if we come in, then that’s what it is.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Adam Schefter
Green Bay Packers named Tom Clements their new offensive coordinator Thursday.
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Yep! I wanted Clements to be the OC here, that’s if Saunders wasn’t retained.
Promoting from within, that’s good depth within the coaching staff in GB.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Ravens have hired Jim Caldwell as their quarterbacks coach.
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another guy we could have tabbed as OC
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Since Peyton Manning will not be wearing Silver & Black, no thanks.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Hello,niners WON with that JUNK place,the O isnt that bad ,near term,much BLOWING GOING ON,that includes Raider owners and haters,YES,need a new dig,lets get er done,with FACTS on the table,Raiders!!!
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Ravens have hired Jim Caldwell as their quarterbacks coach.
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another guy we could have tabbed as OC
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Since Peyton Manning will not be wearing Silver & Black, no thanks.
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Ravens go through a lot of QB coaches…think if things don’t work out will Caldwell or Flacco get the axe?
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Promoting from within, that’s good depth within the coaching staff in GB.
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DK007,
thats the way we’ll be in Oakland – eventually!
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Ravens go through a lot of QB coaches
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Yup!
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Shared stadium is best for us and the NFL would love it. Roger Goodell was here trying to make it happen but Al was against sharing now that Al is gone maybe Mark sees the value in doing it.
The only ones who would lose out would be the 49ers because they could have it all to themselves making them share it with us instead of us being a tenant would increase the value of our team.
Why should the 9ers have the South Bay?
The NFL would contribute twice as much money if we shared the stadium like the Giants and Jets do.
I am not for us being the 49ers tenants while we consider where to be permanently.
The biggest reason I want to share the Santa Clara stadium is that I live here I would be less than 5 miles from the stadium.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaiderChaos Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
67%
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No.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
is Hue Jackson OC for the Steelers yet?
is Al Saunders OC for the Chiefs yet?
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Alex Van Pelt interviewing with Bears for QB coach job. Rams, Colts and Steelers have inquired as well
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Should the Raiders pursue this guy?
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Falcons have agreement in principle with former Fresno State head coach Pat Hill to become O-line coach
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the Raiders need to start looking at college coaches imo
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Al took on more limited partners when he sold that 20 percent. He raised enough cash to pay off the death bills, and add some players to the team. I remember many were trying to figure out after the sale if Al had robbed a bank. No, a small town owner found an infusion of cash.
Death tax during the year George Steinbrenner died was 0. This year the death tax is still very limited. The son may get some tax breaks as well. Grandchildren do also, if gifted. The death tax is being overhauled by Congress. My dad’s estate was large; he paid 0. When mom goes, us kiddies will still pay 0.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
So, can every franchise just relocate? We’ll make it like musical chairs.
So many of the wealthy, instead of using their wealth and influence to help their local economies, are instead acting like the typical suburban family and running for it at the first sight of plight or despair. Just imagine if the wealthiest Americans decided to tuck tail and run during the Great Depression. Every one of us would have grown up in a war torn ghetto. Instead most of us grew up in a middle class culture, and watched our parents go to work at decent paying jobs, thanks to a government and a business culture that understood their role as civic leaders as well as they did their own personal ambitions and economic success. Make no mistake, today’s wealthy are every bit as timid as the poor, whom they openly loath.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Death taxes should be eliminated.
It is the essence of double-taxation.
Let the kids spend the money, and fuel the economy, because we know sending somewhere between 15-35% of to the Fed doesn’t do anything.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Qodrn1
You don’t just pass on half of a 750 million dollar asset without Uncle Sam getting his piece of the pie.
I would bet you that during his later years Al was paying a boat load of money in life insurance premiums in order to pass the team to his wife and son.
I think you can only pass on up to 600K or 1.2 million depending on how many heirs without paying taxes.
Not sure on the exact numbers but I might be close or the laws may have recently changed.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
*tap tap tap*
is this thing on?
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Shared stadium is best for us and the NFL would love it.
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Also, Hosting the Super Bowl, every 7 years(?). Plus we if the seats are Red, we can just spray paint them…
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
I think you can only pass on up to 600K or 1.2 million depending on how many heirs without paying taxes.
Not sure on the exact numbers but I might be close or the laws may have recently changed.
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Heard it was $5M, there were a lot of Law Firms writing about Al Davis’s death and estate tax for client development…really weird.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
JFB, all taxes should be eliminated, why not just pay for the services that we want out of our own pocket.
What is a government really good for? Lying, stealing and killing, that’s about it.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
I can’t imagine a late 70 year old in declining health, purchasing more life insurance.
Bad investment, premiums would be completely out of whack.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Not all government is bad Twocents, let’s not overstate things to make a point.
We need more police officers, especially to put some of these occupy bozo’s in a headlock.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
college coaches should have been hired all down the line…
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
JFB, what you are saying is that you want a police state to protect you from the crazies. But who is going to protect you from the police state?
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
But who is going to protect you from the police state?
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I manage their retirement plans.
Money talks.
More police!!!!
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Police state?? Everytime we watch the news, everything is about how to handle situations with newfound non-violent means, the media is out to make every officer involved shooting to be the cops fault.
We need more policing. Mouth off to a cop, lose two teeth. I would write that into the law.
Drive drunk and go on a police chase, lose a finger.
I ain’t kidding. People are out of control.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
JFB, yes if provide a service to your rulers, you may be spared.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Let them eat cake – Marie Antoinette
Local blackouts if the stadium isn’t sold out – NFL
I don’t care about the poor – Mitt
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Anytime an officer is in a dustup, he has a dozen pansies with a camera-phone in his face threatening all kinds of things.
Meanwhile, someone’s house can catch on fire, fire fighters can show up an hour late, fail to put out the fire and suck at their job, and the neighbors will make them cookies and tea’s, women will throw themselves at them, and the media will pine away at how brave they were.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
randblack666 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
“Silver,
Eric Sanders … not Al Saunders!”
Thanks guys I just had a blond moment!
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LOL! Your whole life is one big “blond moment”. Confirms what I’ve always known about your knowledge of the NFL. Now please STFU while the grownups talk football!
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Triple6,
did you read about the costs to fans with a new Santa Clara stadium? the dollars asked to Whiner season ticket holders priced all but the few out of the market.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
All a police officer has to do is claim that his life was in danger and he can gun you down. They may get a slap on the wrist, but you are dead.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
New stadium will not be cheap.
I thought it was bad in general, until I went to AZ.
A bought a round of 4 beers, some nachos and a pretzel, and it was something like $91, lol.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
“I can’t imagine a late 70 year old in declining health, purchasing more life insurance.
Bad investment, premiums would be completely out of whack.”
No way is that a bad investment in fact there are few other ways its one of the ways you can pass on that kind of wealth you should know this.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Police are human beings just like everybody else, with human frailties. There’s plenty of Police corruption cases, as well.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
My bad on the tangent.
I was watching Mitt on Hannity and had a Chris Matthews moment.
My leg is still tingling, lol.
Soooooo………….the who wants to bet the new ZBS system will produce more rushing yards than last year?
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Any news yet? No…ok, dinner time!
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
“did you read about the costs to fans with a new Santa Clara stadium? the dollars asked to Whiner season ticket holders priced all but the few out of the market.”
Yeah I saw that you bring up a good point.
Games are expensive $9 beers $10 hot dogs.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Police are human beings but they are a part of government and government has a monopoly on violence and theft.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
No way is that a bad investment in fact there are few other ways its one of the ways you can pass on that kind of wealth you should know this.
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You can’t buy term at that stage, so your are looking at whole life, and not many insurance agencies are going to do that, or they won’t sell a large policy.
He should have just bought Apple shares, just like Forrest Gump.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
“Soooooo………….the who wants to bet the new ZBS system will produce more rushing yards than last year?”
The O-Line is the strongest part of this team it would be the last thing I would think they want to change…but it might happen.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
So what’s the deal with Donattel? Or since it is reported that we asked for permission to talk to Joe Whitt…what’s going on with that? Secrecy at its best!
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
“You can’t buy term at that stage, so your are looking at whole life, and not many insurance agencies are going to do that, or they won’t sell a large policy.
He should have just bought Apple shares, just like Forrest Gump.”
Al is a smart business man he probably bought whole life in his 50’s and 60’s then supplemented it with some universal or term in his latter years.
Tell me how else do you pass on 350 million dollars. I don’t know of another way I would like to hear how you would do it?
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
There’s always an Estate Tax except the Year Steinbrenner died.
Big Life insurance policies are used to “Offset” Estate Taxes..
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
92.R8rArt Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Gregg Knapp is a joke, and will bite us for that hire. Has zero creativity, and is so predictable.
And neither Reggie or Allen know offense, so hold your breathe Raider fans because this could be ugly.
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I think Knapp did a hell of a job in his 1st stint with us. By the time he left, JaMarcus was thriving and we were winning games. Losing him to the Seahawks was definitely a setback that forced Al to go out and get Hue.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Vegas,
the Giant’s running back has played the last eight games with a broken bone in his foot and there is no way the injury is going to keep him out of the Super Bowl.
“Its just the love of the game”, says Ahmad Bradshaw, “I don’t like missing games for nothing.”
Raider McFootinjury – crickets
is that what you mean by successful ZBS?
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
By the time he left, JaMarcus was thriving and we were winning games.
JaMarcus and thriving used in the same sentence LOL
How do you get dressed in the morning does your mom dress you?
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
39 million bottles of codeine on the wall, take one down and pass it around, 38,999,999 bottles of codeine on the wall…
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
By the time he left, JaMarcus was thriving and we were winning games.
JaMarcus and thriving used in the same sentence LOL
How do you get dressed in the morning does your mom dress you?
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But how can you dispute these “staggering” passing number from JRuss (LoL)
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2008.htm
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Lol Lonetree.
Way to serve up some bitter truth with a chaser of regret.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@greggrosenthal
gregg rosenthal
Sterling Moore on diff. between oakland and NE: shakes head, “much more … businesslike here”
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LOL Hopefully that changes now.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Raider McFootinjury – crickets
is that what you mean by successful ZBS?
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Yes it is, lol.
McFadden needs to sack up with his next injury, he has a label (right or wrong) and sitting there spitting seeds on Sundays for a month is not going to fly.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Dakota – you were WRONG.
First time for you I’m sure.
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Al is a smart business man he probably bought whole life in his 50’s and 60’s then supplemented it with some universal or term in his latter years.
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Absolutely, I don’t doubt that at all.
I just don’t see him shuffling around his last years, screwing around paying extreme premiums on 1 million face policies.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Does Vegas have a line on Dmac’s next injury?
BSJ predicts a burst ovarian cyst.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
BoSJack,
its all over now except Reggie driving a hard bargain to get a bug zapper and an X-ray of a healthy metatarsal in exchange for McRunningback. (maybe a side of slaw if he’s pushing it.)
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Don’t worry about McFadden he is in a contract year if ever there is a year to get 15 or 16 games out of him this is the one!
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
PID
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
JFB
A 70 year old man can buy 5 million dollars in life insurance for 7,400 a month do you want a link.
I just want to know another way to pass on wealth as I have asked you a couple of times please tell me I want to know.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
We should get motivated guys in contract years, and get max effort.
Instead Al got guys with questionable effort to start with, than unloaded a ton of cash on them, and watched them give next to no effort.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
I don’t claim to be an expert on the subject I have read a lot about people using life insurance to pass on wealth and I want to know how else they can do it.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
A 70 year old man can buy 5 million dollars in life insurance for 7,400 a month do you want a link.
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Al was 80, and I doubt that blood test he would have to take came up in spades.
Tax wise, it is probably your best way to go, but he could have muni’s in a different trusts with his spouse and probably shelter a majority of it that way.
I am not an estate lawyer, so I probably should stay within the lines here.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Vegas,
the Giant’s running back has played the last eight games with a broken bone in his foot and there is no way the injury is going to keep him out of the Super Bowl.
“Its just the love of the game”, says Ahmad Bradshaw, “I don’t like missing games for nothing.”
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Maybe its a good thing we don’t have a 1st rounder this year…
There First Round PRIMADONAS don’t want to chip their nails, while a 7th Rounder is out there for the love of the game.
Pitfull when compared
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Walrus
McF
DHB
RoMac
All overpaid certainly, but only one has cared enough to improve.
as was written in the USA Today celebrating their All-Joes team
DHB surpassed this year any season of Crabtree.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
DHB definately has a passion to working hard and improving.
He would probably drag himself on one leg, JUST TO GO BLOCK DOWNFIELD ON A SCREEN PASS.
How many other of our players would play hurt, and go EAGERLY play a background role?
Not many. We know Darren, Jacoby and Taiwan won’t.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Triple6,
do you actually believe that McF can/will play a full season even in a contract year?
Vegas gave an over/under of 9 games a while back including playoffs.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Raider debo.. you might want to take your own advice and stfu! I can’t believe your still with. .” Jamarcus is a great qb bull sh!t”.. LOL. . You really are embarrassing yourself.. you knuckle head.. you know absolutely nothing about football. Lol
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
39 million bottles of codeine on the wall, take one down and pass it around, 38,999,999 bottles of codeine on the wall…
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38,999,999 bottles of codeine on the wall, take one down and pass it around, 38,999,998 bottles of codeine on the wall…
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Vegas,
don’t bag too much on Jacoby and Taiwan and Denarius. they were just following McFootinjury’s lead.
given a better example they’ll come around.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Gracias Raider Nation.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I’m warming up on Greg Knapp.
Here’s something from a Texans site about Knapp’s job coaching their QB’s last season, specially like what Jeff Garcia had to say about his work and preparation.
- Four years ago, Greg Knapp was Oakland’s offensive coordinator. Back then, the Raiders were flip-flopping JaMarcus Russell and Josh McCown at quarterback, and Knapp said that was the most unusual circumstance he’d encountered on the sideline.
And then came this season.
“I’ve never lost two guys on injured reserve before,” Knapp said.
Knapp, the Texans’ quarterbacks coach, was referring to season-ending injuries to Matt Schaub (foot) and Matt Leinart (collarbone). While his responsibilities never changed — “My job is to get the backups ready,” he said — Knapp also admitted that the last month has been challenging.
He has gone from the known — Schaub didn’t miss a snap last season, while Leinart had been around for a year and rookie T.J. Yates wasn’t being force-fed anything — to the unknown, a reality in which Yates is entrenched as the starter while a couple of guys fresh off the couch, veterans Jake Delhomme and Jeff Garcia, are his backups.
Knapp has had five quarterbacks under his supervision this season: Leinart, Yates, Kellen Clemens (who was cut to make room for Garcia this week), Delhomme and Garcia.
Sunday will be the second professional start for Yates, who was victorious last week against the Atlanta Falcons despite air-mailing a few balls early.
“The first couple balls I wasn’t really following through and kind of just going through my mechanics as a thrower,” Yates said.
“Knapper got in my ear a little bit, told me just to calm down and just go out there like I’m going through practice and follow through and everything.”
History with Garcia.
Unlike with Schaub, Knapp is more involved with Yates. There is a meeting on Tuesday morning to watch the upcoming opponent, even though it’s supposed to be the rookie’s day off. There is extra time after Thursday’s practice, gauging his thoughts on what should be included in the first 15 plays.
That sort of preparation is what attracted Garcia to the Texans.
“(Knapp) hasn’t changed,” Garcia said.
“The offense may have changed in ways, but he is such a detail-oriented guy, and that’s one thing I always remembered, respected and appreciated about him in San Francisco — he prepared like no other. He was always on top of everything.”
The two were together with the 49ers from 1999-2003.
Pushed to extreme.
When Gary Kubiak said a couple of weeks ago that Knapp wasn’t getting much sleep, the head coach was only sort of kidding. But the Saturday night before Yates’ first start, Knapp said he fell into a deep, peaceful slumber.
“Seeing his progress occur, even when running the scout team, I was very comfortable,” he said.
The feeling is mutual.
“From the second I got here, he’s pushed me mentally to the extreme, especially during training camp,” Yates said.
“Every day through the first 10 weeks of the season when I was going to be inactive … he was quizzing me just as much, if not more, than the guys that are out there getting those reps.”
Garcia summarizes what Yates is saying.
“Whatever it is with the quarterback position, (Knapp) wants you to do it to perfection,” he said.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
So Knapp should be able to make Pryor a stud. We shall see.
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Good Deal!
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Marley Bob Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I’m warming up on Greg Knapp.
Garcia summarizes what Yates is saying.
“Whatever it is with the quarterback position, (Knapp) wants you to do it to perfection,” he said.
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So why didn’t we keep Saunders as the OC and just make Knapp the QB coach then?smh
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:47 pm
knapp sux
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Been off line for a few days. Just read up on our new hires. Why do i feel sick to my stomach? I have a bad feeling.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
So why didn’t we keep Saunders as the OC and just make Knapp the QB coach then?.
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Well, Knapp would not have made a lateral move to come coach the QB’s here, in Houston he had his guy Schaub, they go all the way back to Atlanta and Yates looks to be his new project.
Not to mention the fact that Knapp and Saunders run different systems.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Wonder why Mangini hasn’t had any interviews for a DC job, I think Allen should give him a call. Hes good on ESPN, actually one of my favorites on that POS network. Seems like a really smart dude. Does anyone have a clue why he doesn’t get any looks for a DC job?
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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No thanks. Shootings, stabbings , beatings into a coma – not down with that. Steeler fan got hit in the head and killed in L.A. – They will share the stadium and will do so on a co-lease. Raider fans will go on Raider days and Niner fans will go on Niner days – With this economy, fans will have to swallow their pride – and its stupid , anyway. Both teams have a rich legacy and a move would force them to shut the f$%k up and play and dominate.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Marley Bob,
Good read on knapp, that has ben the only positive thing I have read on him since we hired him again.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Realtruraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Wonder why Mangini hasn’t had any interviews for a DC job, I think Allen should give him a call. Hes good on ESPN, actually one of my favorites on that POS network. Seems like a really smart dude. Does anyone have a clue why he doesn’t get any looks for a DC job?
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He had the spygate thing with Belichick, and i’m sure Bill pretty much got the word out he’s not to be trusted. There was an incident with the Browns, where he pulled down a very popular mural with Jim Brown and the old time Browns stars, and he was criticized and it turned off a lot of the organization. He was secretive, petty, and played games…
Remember when McKenzie said; I asked around, and heard nothing but good things about Dennis Allen. It was likely the opposite with Eric Mangini – you see he hasnt got a sniff, and he’s a good X’s and O’s type coordinator..he just couldnt quite relate to players.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Realtruraider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Marley Bob,
Good read on knapp, that has ben the only positive thing I have read on him since we hired him again.
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Perhaps statistics sometimes don’t tell the whole story. A lot of “perfectionist” stuff goes out the window when its not winning or scoring, which is the entire point of offense.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
220
Makes since, there has to be something going around that turns teams off.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Marley Bob Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I’m warming up on Greg Knapp.
Here’s something from a Texans site about Knapp’s job coaching their QB’s last season, specially like what Jeff Garcia had to say about his work and preparation.
- Four years ago, Greg Knapp was Oakland’s offensive coordinator. Back then, the Raiders were flip-flopping JaMarcus Russell and Josh McCown at quarterback, and Knapp said that was the most unusual circumstance he’d encountered on the sideline.
And then came this season.
“I’ve never lost two guys on injured reserve before,” Knapp said.
Knapp, the Texans’ quarterbacks coach, was referring to season-ending injuries to Matt Schaub (foot) and Matt Leinart (collarbone). While his responsibilities never changed — “My job is to get the backups ready,” he said — Knapp also admitted that the last month has been challenging.
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Seems like Knapp gets it in Two’s
Raiders;
BRL + mcclown = 2 garbage QB’s
texans
schaub + lienart = 2 inuried QB’s
Raiders
Palmer + Pryor = 2 Good QB’s
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Going back to Knapp’s tenure here.
He didn’t call plays, Kiffin did in 2007 and for the first 4 games of 2008, then Knapp took over after Kiffin was fired but that lasted only 4 games and then Tom Cable took over.
So Knapp got 4 games as play-caller with JaMarcus as your starting QB, Justin Fargas as your leading RB and Javon Walker, Ashley Lelie and a washed up Ronald Curry getting most of the snaps at WR … not to mention the Kwame Harris-Mario Henderson LT combo and Cornell Green at RT.
Knapp’s got a lot more to work with now and the guy must be bright since he keeps getting jobs and coaching up QB’s, maybe his time has come.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
“Whatever it is with the quarterback position, (Knapp) wants you to do it to perfection,” he said.
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This will bode well for Pryor…
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
“Triple6,
do you actually believe that McF can/will play a full season even in a contract year?
Vegas gave an over/under of 9 games a while back including playoffs.”
NO I do not think he will play a full season I do think he will try to.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
and then Tom Cable took over.
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Thats when cable should have been canned…
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Good moves so far that may pay off for DMc:
Keeping RB & OL coaches of a very good/potentially great Raider running game, bringing in OL coach of a league leading rusher,
…AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, bringing in Hall of Fame strength and conditioning coaches to prepare these consistently injured players for 16+ games.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Knapp doesn’t suck you morons.
Look at the player she coached? What a joke.
He did a really good job with Houston, no matter what anyone says, he deserves some of the credit for a team that dealt with as many injuries to key players as anyone inthe NFL.
D.A is smart, he is going after guys from teams that were a part of a winning team. knapp learned from Kubiak and The Texans Offense which was pretty damn good late year, even with a 3rd string QB.
Why was Al Saunders so good again and wasn’t he part of an offense that went 1-4 during the stretch?
Al Saunders= OverRated
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Al Saunders= OverRated
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Opinions are like a……… Everybody has one!
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RaiderSam Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Dakota Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Raiders will be the Bay Area version of the Clippers, playing second fiddle to the 49ers in a stadium?
Any self-respecting Raiders’ fan would rather watch them go dominate L.A.
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No thanks. Shootings, stabbings , beatings into a coma – not down with that. Steeler fan got hit in the head and killed in L.A. – They will share the stadium and will do so on a co-lease. Raider fans will go on Raider days and Niner fans will go on Niner days – With this economy, fans will have to swallow their pride – and its stupid , anyway. Both teams have a rich legacy and a move would force them to shut the f$%k up and play and dominate.
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Wow. Haha. And didn’t they have to cancel play between the 9ers and Raiders in preseason because of fighting and shooting?
I expect that stupid labeling of LA from BSPN and ridiculous east coast sports fans who have never been to an LA sporting even but from a Raider fan? C’mon. I would like for the Raiders to stay in Oakland but don’t rule out LA with this BS.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Throw deep! Palmer has the arm, Moore and Ford have the speed
Spread the defense wide with speed, then gash up the middle with McFadden
Knapp will do much better this time around. Particularly if coach Allen has a plan, which I suspect he does
But you gotta throw deep!
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
More Greg Knapp, an interview when he was hired by Jim Mora in Seattle for the 2009 season.
“Greg Knapp’s hiring as the Seahawks’ offensive coordinator raised questions about whether Seattle would become predominantly a running team.
Knapp’s offenses in Atlanta and Oakland favored the run by a wide margin.
Former Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren always thought a team needed to pass the ball effectively to win playoff games.
Knapp echoed that thought during an interview with KJR radio’s Dave Mahler.
Knapp: “I am a big believer in balance. You can’t be dominant in one or the other and expect to win in the playoffs. You can probably get to the playoffs being like that, but if you want to win the playoffs, you have to have balance and you have to do both well.”
Knapp also pointed to his time as the 49ers’ offensive coordinator from 2001 to 2003 as evidence he can favor the passing game when the personnel dictates.
The 49ers ran the ball 51.3 percent of the time on first down during those years.
As the chart shows, the percentages rose to 56 percent with the Falcons from 2004 to 2007 and 54.1 percent with the Raiders over the past two seasons.
Knapp: “If I was to be interviewed after my San Francisco days, they probably would have emphasized, ‘Why do you throw the ball so much?’ With Jeff Garcia and my times with Steve Young, we had a lot of success throwing the ball.
The makeup of the personnel there said, ‘Let’s do that.’ My last two stints it has not been that way because for one, we had a running quarterback in Atlanta and two, in Oakland, we had a very young quarterback in JaMarcus Russell. The running game is your best friend for a young quarterback.”
* Knapp indicated he will probably work Seneca Wallace into the offense, possibly with Hasselbeck also on the field.
Wallace’s mobility could pair nicely with some of the zone blocking schemes in the running game, Knapp indicated (with the zone run going one way and the keeper or keeper fake going the other way).
* Knapp also said he was eager to have an experienced, traditional passing quarterback as his starter.
Knapp: “A lot of it is dictated by the personnel. Here we have a very experienced, Pro Bowl, played-in-a-Super Bowl quarterback in Matt Hasselbeck and I am
kind of licking my chops because I am back with a guy who has a lot of savvy, a lot of experience, has made tough decisions in close ballgames and has done well. It helps my cause as far as what to choose from when you are using the playbook.”
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* Replace Seneca Wallace with Terrelle Pryor and Matt Hasselbeck with Carson Palmer … definitely an upgrade for Knapp to work with.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
303 raider:
Why was Al Saunders so good again and wasn’t he part of an offense that went 1-4 during the stretch?
Al Saunders= OverRated
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It was the D collapsing. Not Saunders O.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
“Greg Knapp’s hiring as the Seahawks’ offensive coordinator raised questions about whether Seattle would become predominantly a running team.
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I wonder why? Hmmmmm
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
303 raider:
It was the D collapsing. Not Saunders O.
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True dat. If the D could have stopped the Chargers or Lions just once, the offense would have pulled it out
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Bob,
Great articles. Thank you.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Don’t forget the Bills’ game!
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
235.Raider O Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
“Greg Knapp’s hiring as the Seahawks’ offensive coordinator raised questions about whether Seattle would become predominantly a running team.
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I wonder why? Hmmmmm
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You could always read the entire article. The explanation is there.
Thanks, Marley, for the posts. I’ve maintained since the guy was hired that he will work with what he has here and do well.
Maybe some of these guys who say all w’re going to do is run the ball, be boring and not competetive will read those articles and at least begin to understand what the heck is going on.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Or if the. offense scored a little more. I watched this team last year, I know the Defense sucked.
We couldn’t score in the second half of some late season games.
All I’m asking is what did Al Saunders do that was so great?
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
So glad the Raiders becoming a bona-fide 21st century team. Love the Allen hire. Reggie is the legit schitt. Now all we gotta do is somehow keep that tough mentality and cut back on the flags. Lookin good so far, lookin good.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
303Raider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
All I’m asking is what did Al Saunders do that was so great?
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Compared to the offenses before, it was a big improvement. Also, the offense was fun. Long passes, reverses, breakout runs, just creative stuff. Not sure how much of that was Huebert, however
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
ET,
I did. I just don’t like excuses!
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Billick said some things on 95.7 today in regard to Knapp and how hes a ZBS and WC OC coming to coach where the star running back is better in a power scheme and the QB isn’t a rollout WC type of guy, He made it sound simple, he said if your coaching a RB thats better in a power scheme, well you better run more power scheme, If your QB is more of a pocket guy don’t make him rollout. simple, huh
OK, this is the part I hope he is right about. He also said Knapp is smart enough to know he has to play to the strength of his players. I hope Knapp has become smarter since the last time he was here and has learned some things, like don’t force the ZBS on DMC. Pretty simple right, lets hope so
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Trent Edwards visited with the Eagles this week.
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Boller haters, ever wonder “what could have been?”
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Edwards probably wins that KC game and we’re in the playoffs gettin ready for this week-end.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
That was Hue, not Al Saunders.
The personnel makes a HuGE difference.
Everyone wants to condemn Knap. When he has here and head to deal with JaWalrus and Co.
But no one wants to give him any credit for his success in Houston?
What DID Al Saundres do that was so Great?
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Really good news Raiders are staying in Oakland.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
So how did it turn out in Seattle for Knapp?.
“This time, the Seahawks’ injured and ineffective offensive line wrecked new offensive coordinator Greg Knapp’s running game – and quarterback Matt Hasselbeck’s health. The three-time Pro Bowl passer missed 2 1/2 games, then played through broken ribs, a sore passing shoulder and thumb injury, while throwing a career-high 17 interceptions.”
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Jim Mora and Greg Knapp were canned after just 1 season (5-11) as Seattle fell in love with Pete Carroll and handed him control of the team.
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
speculation schmeculation
10 wins or bust. I’ll even take 10-7.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Forty Niners had a good run but came up short. I expect the Raiders to be in the same boat next year.
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Keep your raunchy niner talk outta here you loser. Your niners suck now matter how you try and spin it. Now get back to your job answering phones for ‘male love talk’ you freakin loser.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
INDIANAPOLIS — The NFL has approved a decision to loan $200 million to the San Francisco 49ers to help finance a new stadium in Santa Clara, Calif., where the team’s headquarters are located.
Team president and CEO Jed York said the construction timeline — which was part of the proposal to the NFL — projects that the stadium will be built by 2015, but added that the stadium could be done by 2014.
I asked York if there are any plans to share the stadium with the Oakland Raiders. He said the stadium has been approved to house two teams but the 49ers are the only team going in for now.
York also said the 49ers will get in on bidding for a Super Bowl.
He called the development “a big step forward” on his Twitter feed.
“With the NFL’s muscle now behind the new stadium, we are moving forward,” York said in a release issued by the team. “I expect an official ground-breaking ceremony very soon. Get your hard hats ready; we are embarking on the path to the next generation of 49ers football.”
According to the release, the 49ers are the first team to draw from the so-called “new stadium fund” that came out of the league’s new collective bargaining agreement.
York also said the 49ers will get in on bidding for a Super Bowl.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8268ad55/article/nfl-will-help-49ers-pay-for-new-stadium-in-santa-clara?module=HP11_headline_stack
The team and Santa Clara announced in December that they’d received an $850 million loan to cover most of the estimated $1 billion cost.
The rest of the cost will be covered by the league’s loan, a hotel tax and Santa Clara’s redevelopment funds.
The 49ers play in Candlestick Park. The stadium made headlines when the lights went out twice during the 49ers game against the Steelers on Dec. 19.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8268ad55/article/nfl-will-help-49ers-pay-for-new-stadium-in-santa-clara?module=HP11_headline_stack
Read it and weep Humpster you deginerate.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Chopping up scenarios is what we do here, bruh. You like things the way they are. You trust the GM to fill in the gaps with UDFAs and low round draft picks instead of MAYBE cashing in a chip that another team is willing to overpay for. Well, I think THAT is some dumb da dumb dumb a##rsse thinking.
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da dumb azz thinking is the sh!it youre saying. yes u did mention sh!t about scott playing mlb a couple years ago. i never said anything about shawny playing olb in a 34. the way u undervalue ford is ignorant. we lacked explosiveness in the passing game without him and his return ability can NEVER be overlooked. your NEW gm and coach just said that the roster is talented enuff. you can have fun with trade scenarios all u want but ill take the young budding talent over those picks. YOU hope the gm can cash in on what a team may overpay for by trading ford dmc and shawny. yall can have fun saying the same dumbazz sh1t as usual all offseason. maybe this year after so many failed attempts yall will get it right.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Who cares about the Whiners!?
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
so now we have so much depth at wr that we can get rid of a guy like ford that gives a dimension that most teams dont have. be damned if we let the strength of our team grow into a dominant force. thats how the colts won all of those years.the best teams dominate in ways other teams cant. never understood why u get rid of players becuz youre deep. guys get hurt so u need as many good players as possible. this season proved that. no lets just weaken ourselves at this one position so we can maybe spread the love around. who knows what will happen but this sh1t just gets too crazy in here. have fun with yall bullsh1t.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
No one is trading Ford!! He is a young talent, he doesn’t cost a lot (like DHB, Boss, DMAC), and he is out best KR.
And for what? A 2-3rd RD pick? Really?!?!
RELAX!!!!
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Our*
Talk about value, the guy plays offense and STs, he can score any time he has the ball, he is young, and he is cheap.
Why would you trade him?
You People…….
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
And he has 2 more years on his contract (I think).
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
All of our WRs don’t cost much, The TE Boss is probably the highest paid out of all of them, I believe DHB already got most of his money in the non cap year, over 20 mil that year I believe.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Been watching tape of RG3. The kid really throws the ball well, especially deep. I just hope Terrelle Pryor is working on his throwing mechanics because on tape TP doesn’t throw as well as RG3.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
From the LA Times. It is the off season.
L.A. NOW
Southern California — this just in
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‘Jack Sparrow’ pepper-sprayed in Hollywood action figure brawl
February 2, 2012 | 7:39 pm 215
A brawl between several people dressed as action figures erupted in front of the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood on Thursday evening, resulting in a Jack Sparrow character being pepper-sprayed by an attacker, police said.
Jack Sparrow was treated for minor injuries in the fracas that included Catwoman, an alien and a second pirate, the Los Angeles Police Department said.
Officers were searching streets in Hollywood after Catwoman, the alien and pirate fled following the free-for-all that played out in front of tourists on busy Hollywood Boulevard, Officer Norma Eisenman said.
The incident was the latest run-in between characters who pose for pictures with tourists and then aggressively demand money, according to police.
In September, a man dressed as SpongeBob SquarePants was detained by police outside Grauman’s Chinese Theatre in Hollywood after an altercation with two women. In another incident, Spider-Man was led away in handcuffs.
Police officials acknowledge that maintaining peace in the area has been challenging. At one point, LAPD officials held a summit with characters to improve relations in the popular destination and even resorted to a temporary ban after problems persisted.
City rules allow people to tip characters, but prohibit them from demanding payment.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
BREAKING NEWS!!!
My source tells me if the Raiders don’t hire a DC by Friday, well that means we are looking to interview some people off of the superbowl teams. LOL!!!
source = my gut
anybody have a clue who we could be looking at on either of those teams?
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Those guys dressed as superheros on Hollywood blvd. are always fighting. Most of them are druggies.
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Brah/Dorks
Did you all check out the Bruin recruiting class? “Bringing home the magic & the power” (patent pending) in 2012, yo!
Mora is taking this thing to the limit, kind of like what Krappy’s diapers do every day, word
Gots to keep it real, whut?
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7535394/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-says-34-teams-likely-nfl-adds-franchise-los-angeles
This bodes well for the Raiders not moving.
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
$20,000 and $325 per ticket if I bought my same seats in Santa Clara to watch the 49ers. York is smoking something funny if he thinks he can sell those seats!
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Santa Clara residents and most 49er fans are furious with the cost. I think there are big problems brewing over this stadium site in Santa Clara.
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
That being said, our owner worked out and had lunch with York today in Indy.
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
The makeup of the personnel there said, ‘Let’s do that.’ My last two stints it has not been that way because for one, we had a running quarterback in Atlanta and two, in Oakland, we had a very young quarterback in JaMarcus Russell. The running game is your best friend for a young quarterback.”
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Now would be a good time to have a young QB on the roster to groom because this guy obviously gets it. Losing him was a huge blow to our offense in 2009. I’d love to hear his thoughts on his time working with JR. I’d be willing to bet a hell of a lot of money that he’d describe him as hardworking, bright and coachable.
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
So Knapp got 4 games as play-caller with JaMarcus as your starting QB, Justin Fargas as your leading RB and Javon Walker, Ashley Lelie and a washed up Ronald Curry getting most of the snaps at WR … not to mention the Kwame Harris-Mario Henderson LT combo and Cornell Green at RT.
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Hmmmm….What an awesome supporting cast for our young QB. Surpised we didn’t go undefeated. Funny thing is, this is an All Pro group compared to the one we had in 2009, especially when you consider the shtty coaching staff. Poor JaMarcus!!!
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Interesting Sterling Moore say it’s “a lot more businesslike that’s for sure” in NE than Oakland.
Made me think that the great Raider teams that won 3 SB’s in 7 yrs appeared to be anything but “businesslike”.
You read the books about the partying, getting drunk the night before games etc. and wonder was that businesslike?
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
I think with Allen at the helm we won’t have to worry about a lack of being “businesslike”.
Reading more about Knapp makes me feel a bit better about him.
Most media outlets I see are not negative about Raiders hiring him.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
repost:
“Sanders returns for his third season with the Raiders and first as defensive quality control coach. A native of San Francisco, Sanders was an offensive assistant on the Raiders coaching staff for two years (2010-11).”
The guy with the 800 page play book an offensive expert is demoted to quality control coach of the defense because he was still under contract.
If Al Davis did this to a well respected coach instead of DA he would be crucified by the media all week for this.
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That’s Eric Sanders LOL…not Al Saunders. I understand your shock though.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
The Raiders in 1976, year of their first Superbowl victory, were anything but business-like. That is what made the Raiders, the Raiders.
It was their swashbuckling, un-orthodox ways, killer hits by the D, bold risky plays by the O, the unconventional backgrounds and tactics of the greatest players in football whose greatest talent was winning football games and a never-say-die attitude.
Most in here are too young to remember those days, and so they get confused as to who and what the Raiders are.
And that is a shame.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
303Raider Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
That was Hue, not Al Saunders.
The personnel makes a HuGE difference.
Everyone wants to condemn Knap. When he has here and head to deal with JaWalrus and Co.
But no one wants to give him any credit for his success in Houston?
What DID Al Saundres do that was so Great?
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It’s not just here that I am condemning Knapp. Somehow his personnel just “suck” when he’s there…good coaches make something of the personnel they have. We could have just sat here and said “well, our starting QB, RB and top 2 WRs are injured here. That’s why we have a #26 offense”. But the coaches didn’t, worked out how to make use of everybody and kept the offense going through the whole thing…and all this despite having no defense.
Knapp somehow at best manages to have a #16 offense, and more average has a #25 – #30 offense (bottom of the league). He had #32 twice. TWICE he had the WORST offense in the league that he was guiding.
He can make “reasons” why his offenses were bad because “bad players” or “injuries” but that just shows that he isn’t that good and doesn’t adapt and doesn’t work out ways to use the players he does have.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
I think Knapp did a hell of a job in his 1st stint with us. By the time he left, JaMarcus was thriving and we were winning games. Losing him to the Seahawks was definitely a setback that forced Al to go out and get Hue.
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Haaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You’re funny man! Great sense of humor.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
So Knapp got 4 games as play-caller with JaMarcus as your starting QB, Justin Fargas as your leading RB and Javon Walker, Ashley Lelie and a washed up Ronald Curry getting most of the snaps at WR … not to mention the Kwame Harris-Mario Henderson LT combo and Cornell Green at RT.
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Hmmmm….What an awesome supporting cast for our young QB. Surpised we didn’t go undefeated. Funny thing is, this is an All Pro group compared to the one we had in 2009, especially when you consider the shtty coaching staff. Poor JaMarcus!!!
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You’re right. Most overall number ones are saddled with bad players around them and bad staffs. It is up to them to suck it up and make everyone around them better. Carson Palmer was 8-8 his lst year as a starter, then 11-5. Jamarcus Russell folded faster than superman on laundy day.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
AL Davis was the ring leader of this crew: his genius was giving his players their lead, turning them loose, and in the end receiving the booty and spoils they won.
That was a time of genius, rebellion, and insurrection.
But then the world changed. The merger took place, the NFL was formed and teams became business-like. AL neglected his team and made more money suing the NFL, Pete Rossell, and the city of Oakland than he did winning football games. Meanwhile, the sport evolved economically, and AL was left behind; his style of management just didn’t work as football became a 12 month per year industry. The more he tried the more it eluded AL, until finally he sank into the oblivion of old age and dementia, and then became a laughing-stock.
The players (and staff) the Raiders now have, just don’t figure: the Raiders at their greatest were blue collar, working class players. There would have been no DMAC sitting out 9 games with a sprained foot or an aching toe. Teams would have never run right through the old Raiders. Most every game QB’s would fall and be out for the count. Causing concussions was a good thing back then. You would never see a JC, bottom lip hanging down to his knees, the Raiders settling for a “game manager”. It was attack, attack, attack.
Before the Raiders can transistion to dynasty they have to know who and what they are, players and staff. That may be no longer possible.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Here’s an article which pretty much exemplifies Knapp:
“Darren McFadden never flourished under former coach’s zone-blocking scheme, only emerging once Hue Jackson molded the offense to his strengths. ESPN’s John Clayton suggests the Raiders will have to decide whether to re-sign free agent Michael Bush or trade McFadden this offseason. Knapp has been a decidedly run-heavy play-caller, though it’s odd that the Raiders are now installing an offense that won’t cater to the skills of its most dynamic players.”
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Beach Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
$20,000 and $325 per ticket if I bought my same seats in Santa Clara to watch the 49ers. York is smoking something funny if he thinks he can sell those seats!
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Well, at least the cholos won’t be a problem anymore.
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
277.Seymour Bush Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
So Knapp got 4 games as play-caller with JaMarcus as your starting QB, Justin Fargas as your leading RB and Javon Walker, Ashley Lelie and a washed up Ronald Curry getting most of the snaps at WR … not to mention the Kwame Harris-Mario Henderson LT combo and Cornell Green at RT.
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Hmmmm….What an awesome supporting cast for our young QB. Surpised we didn’t go undefeated. Funny thing is, this is an All Pro group compared to the one we had in 2009, especially when you consider the shtty coaching staff. Poor JaMarcus!!!
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You’re right. Most overall number ones are saddled with bad players around them and bad staffs. It is up to them to suck it up and make everyone around them better. Carson Palmer was 8-8 his lst year as a starter, then 11-5. Jamarcus Russell folded faster than superman on laundy day.
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Except Carson Palmer wasn’t saddled with bad players around him. That is unless you think Chad Johnson, T.J. Housh and Chris Henry sucked. And how about Willie Anderson at tackle, along with Rudi Johnson running the ball? As for CPs 8-8 record, John Kitna did the same thing the previous season as Carson watched from the bench. Remember the Raiders’ record the year before JR started? 4-12!
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:52 pm
About Knapp and the Dmac thing. Here is one way to look at it. Are any of the leading rushers on the two SB teams? No. Are they in the top ten? No. Are they in the top twenty? Barely, Greene (NY) makes it in at 19. The law firm shows up at #42. Don’t put so much stock into the glitz and glamour.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 am
morilla Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:52 pm
About Knapp and the Dmac thing. Here is one way to look at it. Are any of the leading rushers on the two SB teams? No. Are they in the top ten? No. Are they in the top twenty? Barely, Greene (NY) makes it in at 19. The law firm shows up at #42. Don’t put so much stock into the glitz and glamour.
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No, exactly, it’s NOT a rushing league any more. More than half of the top 10 rushing teams did NOT make the playoffs.
But that’s ALL Knapp has EVER been good at. Look at his past 8 years as Offensive Coordinator. Never had a passer in the top 15 in the league. Never had a TOTAL offense in the top 15 in the league. Never been top 15 in the league in points scored. Most of the time near dead last in passing yards.
He does a run first, run 2nd offense that is not high powered and does not score a lot of points. AND that offense which is based on the run does not fit our top RB’s strengths. So that makes it doubly bad.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:44 am
269.RaiderDebo Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
The makeup of the personnel there said, ‘Let’s do that.’ My last two stints it has not been that way because for one, we had a running quarterback in Atlanta and two, in Oakland, we had a very young quarterback in JaMarcus Russell. The running game is your best friend for a young quarterback.”
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Now would be a good time to have a young QB on the roster to groom because this guy obviously gets it. Losing him was a huge blow to our offense in 2009. I’d love to hear his thoughts on his time working with JR. I’d be willing to bet a hell of a lot of money that he’d describe him as hardworking, bright and coachable.
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I’d take that bet, except that Knapp would probably take the high road and issue a “no comment”.
February 3rd, 2012 at 4:44 am
Raiderzmaverick Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 am
morilla Says:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:52 pm
About Knapp and the Dmac thing. Here is one way to look at it. Are any of the leading rushers on the two SB teams? No. Are they in the top ten? No. Are they in the top twenty? Barely, Greene (NY) makes it in at 19. The law firm shows up at #42. Don’t put so much stock into the glitz and glamour.
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No, exactly, it’s NOT a rushing league any more. More than half of the top 10 rushing teams did NOT make the playoffs.
But that’s ALL Knapp has EVER been good at. Look at his past 8 years as Offensive Coordinator. Never had a passer in the top 15 in the league. Never had a TOTAL offense in the top 15 in the league. Never been top 15 in the league in points scored. Most of the time near dead last in passing yards.
He does a run first, run 2nd offense that is not high powered and does not score a lot of points. AND that offense which is based on the run does not fit our top RB’s strengths. So that makes it doubly bad.
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Even if, he did open up the passing game half-way or full-tilt, he needs a runner that can catch passes and adapt, like Shady McCoy of the Eagles. If you look at his running style – its skip, bounce and accelerate. McCoy is similar to Charlie Garner, who did a similar style with Knapp during the Garcia days over in SF. – McFadden is cut, then burst, very little side to side motion.
Then, making it worse, the WC offense is predicated on precise pass patterns and routes, and Knapp doesn’t even call a balanced ratio – he’s run-heavy…which negates our speed and explosiveness on the perimeter with Ford and Moore.
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:20 am
Whats up raider nation, Reading the latest post , I believed right after seeing a young coach this team is in complete mode but understandingly doesnt wanna say it to hard luck raiderfans for a reason. This team is gonna get another qb somehow low draft or undrafted and even another RB which i wouldnt mind we need him. You have to see how our WRs are not west coast wideouts
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 am
I wonder if we will get the 2nd MNF opener again this season.
I am thinking Tebow will probably be involved with that.
I honestly hope we just play a road game (in KC maybe) on Sunday to start this year.
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 am
GOOD DAY JFB,WILL GET 2PRIME TIME HOME GAMES IN 2012 IMO.PROBABLY DENVER ON MNF AND SAN DIEGO ON SNF OR TUURSDAY NIGHT LATE IN SEASON.MAYBE 1 OTHER.DARREN MCFADDEN WILL NOT PRACTICE 4 EITHER GAME BY THE WAY..
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:49 am
Happy Aloha Friday guys! Coffee and breakfast on me! Gabby, get these boys some grub!
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:53 am
Is it me or does Tebow look like he’s going to be really hungry in about an hour?
http://sports.yahoo.com/
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:57 am
EDWARD TEACH,NOT AN EASY THING HEALING THE SICK & RAISING THE DEAD..LOT OF PRESSURE THERE..
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:59 am
292.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:57 am
EDWARD TEACH,NOT AN EASY THING HEALING THE SICK & RAISING THE DEAD..LOT OF PRESSURE THERE..
LOL!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:08 am
Ed Donatell hired yet?
Whitt Jr. , Greene or Moss could be in the mix for DC from the Packers.
I also like Mike Singletary, Pepper Johnson & Jim Herrmann
Kirby Smart, John Chavis, Todd Grantham, Lorenzo Ward or Pat Narduzzi for Raiders DC ???
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:09 am
Next stop: White Castle!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:10 am
Happy Aloha Friday guys! Coffee and breakfast on me! Gabby, get these boys some grub!
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Gabby: I’ll have the steak & eggs
thanks Hwnrdr!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:15 am
RaiderRockstar,You dont think the guy from the Giants is worth a take,Perry F?
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 am
Quiet sports wise…I guess becuase its SB weekend!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 am
At least our OL seem to fit Knapp’s zone blocking style.
Veldheer is very athletic for a LT, Wiz and Satele are smart and can move which is a must, Carslile is proven in the scheme and maybe Bruce Campbell and his freakish size-speed numbers translate well, but if not, you can find these ZBS blockers in mid-low rounds and even as undrafted free agents.
The one guy who may not be a fit is last year’s 3rd rounder Joe Barksdale, if the coaching staff feels like he won’t be able to handle it, perhaps he can be traded to a team that prefers bigger linemen, maybe for a 4th round pick or he can be used to trade down from say the 3rd (Nnamdi’s pick) to the 2nd round if we covet some player.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:19 am
And tell Gabby,a spicy Bloody Mary would be nice
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:21 am
What about Kacy Rogers to coach our D-Line? His contract is up in Miami, but for the past 4 years there his line has helped create a top 7 defense in stopping the run and has played well in general.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:22 am
Marley Bob Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 am
At least our OL seem to fit Knapp’s zone blocking style.
Veldheer is very athletic for a LT, Wiz and Satele are smart and can move which is a must, Carslile is proven in the scheme and maybe Bruce Campbell and his freakish size-speed numbers translate well, but if not, you can find these ZBS blockers in mid-low rounds and even as undrafted free agents.
The one guy who may not be a fit is last year’s 3rd rounder Joe Barksdale, if the coaching staff feels like he won’t be able to handle it, perhaps he can be traded to a team that prefers bigger linemen, maybe for a 4th round pick or he can be used to trade down from say the 3rd (Nnamdi’s pick) to the 2nd round if we covet some player.
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It’s true, our linemen could probably do it for the most part. I just don’t get why we change something that was so successful to something that will take time to adapt to. We were #4 in the NFL as far as fewest sacks given up, and were great running the ball until Bush wore down towards the end of the year.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:24 am
maybe for a 4th round pick or he can be used to trade down from say the 3rd (Nnamdi’s pick) to the 2nd round if we covet some player.
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Compensatory picks cant be traded
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
It’s true, our linemen could probably do it for the most part. I just don’t get why we change something that was so successful to something that will take time to adapt to. We were #4 in the NFL as far as fewest sacks given up, and were great running the ball until Bush wore down towards the end of the year.
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Veldheer, Satele, Carlisle and Barnes were all on the roster when we last ran the ZBS. Heyer played for the Rat in Washington for two years.
Not sure how you would figure they would take time to adapt. They’ve all done it before, and recently.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
300.hendu Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:19 am
And tell Gabby,a spicy Bloody Mary would be nice
There you go, Hendu! Start the weekend off right!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:31 am
We ran a bunch of zone blocking plays last year. Of course we ran some power too, but truthfully I dont think you will see a drastic change in the blocking schemes.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:34 am
Watching the Texans last year, they used a true FB and a TE (Owen Daniels) most of the time, but their other 2 TE’s (Joel Dreessen and James Casey) saw a lot of playing time as well.
Casey a TE/FB in particular was used in a variety of ways and made plays at FB, TE and split out
Hopefully Knapp takes a page out Kubiak’s playbook and gets Reece more involved, Casey is a good player but he has nothing on Marcel when it comes to skills.
Now if Reece remains as the starting FB, maybe David Ausberry is the one who gets more playing time like Casey.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:08 am
Ed Donatell hired yet?
Whitt Jr. , Greene or Moss could be in the mix for DC from the Packers.
I also like Mike Singletary, Pepper Johnson & Jim Herrmann
Kirby Smart, John Chavis, Todd Grantham, Lorenzo Ward or Pat Narduzzi for Raiders DC ???
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Singletary is just what our defense needs!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:38 am
306.bcz24 Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:31 am
We ran a bunch of zone blocking plays last year. Of course we ran some power too, but truthfully I dont think you will see a drastic change in the blocking schemes.
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Agreed. I also think that our young wideouts will thrive under Greg Knapp, especially DHB. His speed and physicality will be a huge asset on the quick hitters; LBs can’t stay with him and safeties and cornerbacks aren’t big and/or strong enough. I alwys thought he’d be better used in the slot anyway, for those reasons.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:41 am
Speaking of Marcel Reece and Justin Griffith.
Take a look at what the FB role is in the ZBS and Knapp’s system in particular:
“Justin Griffith is unselfish like a throwback fullback, blocks like a throwback fullback and relishes doing the dirty work like a throwback fullback.
So it’s only right to deduce that he’s, um, I don’t know, a throwback fullback.
Wrong.
“No, no, no!” Griffith exclaims, slapping at the label.
He makes it sound like someone nicknamed him Charmin.
“I’m not a throwback guy at all,” Griffith says.
“I’ve been fortunate and blessed to be a part of this offense most of my career. It doesn’t beat you up. There aren’t a lot of isolations, power blocking and all that kind of stuff. We’re a zone-scheming team. And I get to catch the ball, too.”
Delve into Griffith’s past, and you start to understand why he doesn’t want to be associated with the griminess of the position.
He’s a converted tailback. Back in Magee, Miss. (pop: 4,332), he was celebrated for rushing for more than 4,700 yards — and 66 touchdowns! — during his junior and senior years of high school.
He switched to fullback while in college at Mississippi State. He’s not a natural mauler, and he’s quite effusive in explaining why.
Then he goes onto the football field, and mauls people.
Don’t think he’s having an identity crisis, however. Griffith refuses to be pigeonholed, but he knows who he is and understands his role perhaps better than anyone in this variation of the West Coast offense.
Why? Because this is Griffith’s sixth season working with new offensive coordinator Greg Knapp.
His experience and knowledge of the system will prove invaluable for the adjusting Seahawks. In fact, he may be the key to revitalizing the running game.
* In Knapp’s offense, the fullback must think like a tailback just to block the right defensive player.
Instead of being assigned a specific player to block, the fullback must read the defense and react on the fly.
It’s not an easy task. Maybe that’s why it takes a reluctant throwback fullback to master it.
“It’s really important with our outside zone run game, where he is the lead guy,” Knapp said of the fullback.
“We teach our fullbacks to read it like the halfback. There are certain indicators based on the run call that’s being made. He has to see it the same way we want the halfback to see it, so he’ll lead that halfback to the right hole. He is kind of that floating guy, where if the defense overflows, he can cut back and clean up the backside.
“If they try to stunt inside, he makes that read and bounces it out and the running back follows him. So there’s a lot of burden on him in identifying what’s the correct path in the run game.”
Knapp has had a top-10 rushing attack in all eight of his seasons as a coordinator. Griffith has been around for five of those.”
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We’ll see if Marcel Reece can adapt, at least he has a great teacher now and with his skill-set, it should not be hard to find ways for him to contribute more.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:41 am
Edward Teach Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
It’s true, our linemen could probably do it for the most part. I just don’t get why we change something that was so successful to something that will take time to adapt to. We were #4 in the NFL as far as fewest sacks given up, and were great running the ball until Bush wore down towards the end of the year.
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Veldheer, Satele, Carlisle and Barnes were all on the roster when we last ran the ZBS. Heyer played for the Rat in Washington for two years.
Not sure how you would figure they would take time to adapt. They’ve all done it before, and recently.
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They’d all be fine in the ZBS, except Barnes who totally sucked when Cable was here. HOWEVER, even at his “best” for us last year, he wasn’t that good. If Barksdale and Campbell can’t do it, there’ll be a dozen free agent RTs out there who can play at least as well as he did.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 am
Nah DHB doesn’t need to be in the slot, he just needs to learn how to be more physical and fight for the ball. JFord should be our slot receiver
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:46 am
We’ll see if Marcel Reece can adapt, at least he has a great teacher now and with his skill-set, it should not be hard to find ways for him to contribute more.
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Maybe but Offensive Quality Control coaches really just sit up in the booth doing situation charts to let the coach and OC know whats working and what isn’t
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:48 am
312.bcz24 Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 am
Nah DHB doesn’t need to be in the slot, he just needs to learn how to be more physical and fight for the ball. JFord should be our slot receiver
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He catches the short ball a whole lot better than he does the long one and is very physical when he has the ball. He’s a matchup nightmare in the slot.
Just playing to the guy’s strengths, rather than putting him in positions where he’s struggled more often than not. Ford is much better than he is at adjusting to balls in the air.
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
Hwnrdr,yes sir,and as HayesDaze37 would say,its a great day,week,month,year to be a RAIDER Fan!!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Knapp has had a top-10 rushing attack in all eight of his seasons as a coordinator. Griffith has been around for five of those
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hot dang!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 am
I wish I could have one of those right now! LOL…anyways, looked in my beer and alcohol refridgerator last night…I’ll be good his weeked!
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 am
Justin Griffith is here to help Kelly Skipper make Reece & Tonga stud ZBS FB’s
does Reece think like a RB, FB, WR or TE though ???
Could Rashawn Jackson or James McCluskey be “that guy” ?
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 am
looked in my beer and alcohol refridgerator last night…I’ll be good his weeked!
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Hwnrdr,
translation: if the Patriots win, I don’t want to remember it!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Knapp used Miller in Oakland (07 & 08) and Carlson in Seattle (09) quite a bit in his last OC stints …
We all know Kubiak & Dennison did the same thing in Houston the past two seasons when Knapp was QB Coach there.
anybody think Kevin Boss will be more involved in the offense this season?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:02 am
Wondering how many Raider fans are rooting for the cheatriots this Sunday? I say frig the tuckers,go GIANTS!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:02 am
319.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 am
looked in my beer and alcohol refridgerator last night…I’ll be good his weeked!
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Hwnrdr,
translation: if the Patriots win, I don’t want to remember it!
LOL…yeah but the media will surely bring on the headache no matter what I do!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:03 am
As much as I like Shane Lechler, I don’t want to see him on the field this season
with the Allen/Knapp/Palmer trio I don’t think we will!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 am
Man, what I would give to get Peyton Manning in here. We gave up all these draft picks for some washed up Carson Palmer…who will not be able to run a Wcoast off. Manning could run any type of off. Now we stuck with also a washed up OC-Knapp. I wished things looked better. Our Personnel on offense does not fit what Knapps likes to run, and there is no proof that he knows how to run anything but boring RUN-HEAVY Zone Blocking throw the ball no longer than 5-yards garbage. I could see if he was a good W.coast OC, wouldnt mind the change, however its going to be interesting to see how this thing is gonna work.
Im not optimistic…trusting things to Knapp & Palmer…its like Oil & Water!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
trusting things to Knapp & Palmer…its like Oil & Water!
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Como?
Knapp & Palmer go together like peanut butter and jelly
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
Watching the Texans last year, they used a true FB
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I would love that guy over here (Leach I think it is) but let’s not throw him too many passes.
His drop in the red zone against us probably saved the game for us.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:11 am
JFB,
you wont find too many bruising FB’s with hands like Marcel Reece
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:12 am
325.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 am
trusting things to Knapp & Palmer…its like Oil & Water!
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Como?
Knapp & Palmer go together like peanut butter and jelly
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If you believe that R.Star, than tell me how there a good match?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:12 am
We did a lot of ZBS stuff with Gruden than Callahan, went back to traditional with Norv and Art Shell, and than back to the ZBS with Kiffin and Cable, and kind of a hybrid last year.
So basically, the last 14 years, we have been mostly a ZBS team, with our playoff runs and at least 8-8 years under the ZBS and hybrid, and some 5-11, 2-14 seasons with the power scheme.
Yet people want to kick and scream about hiring a ZBS guy???
Ohhh….the logic!!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:13 am
lol. Any raider fans that are not sure who they will be rooting for should just go on youtube and look at the raider/pats tuck rule play. That should do the trick. Go giants!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:15 am
329.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:12 am
We did a lot of ZBS stuff with Gruden than Callahan, went back to traditional with Norv and Art Shell, and than back to the ZBS with Kiffin and Cable, and kind of a hybrid last year.
So basically, the last 14 years, we have been mostly a ZBS team, with our playoff runs and at least 8-8 years under the ZBS and hybrid, and some 5-11, 2-14 seasons with the power scheme.
Yet people want to kick and scream about hiring a ZBS guy???
Ohhh….the logic!!!!
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Like I said if it wasnt Knapp, maybe I’d be more positive.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 am
I am rooting for whoever helps me win the point square pools, lol.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:18 am
Knapp’s resume is massively more impressive than Hue’s was before he got here.
Knapp will prove, that there is a ton of talent on our offensive side of the ball, as we will score more points next year than last year.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:20 am
Probably going to catch some sh*t for saying this, but I have a lot of respect for the Patriots. They take care of business, don’t showboat, and perform as well AS A TEAM as anyone in the league.
For what it’s worth, they didn’t make the call in the Tuck Rule game. They just happened to be the beneficiaries of one of the worst officiating blunders in the history of the league (I have a picture of Brady with BOTH hands on the ball right before he got hit by Woodson, so I don’t buy what the NFL is still selling on that one).
As far as taping opponents’ walkthroughs and so forth; as Raider fans we would be completely hypocritical to have a problem with that. That has the classic Raider approach written all over it, and the old timers know what I’m talking about.
Plus, Belichik is about as anti-establishment as it gets. I wish Al would have listened to Amy, although it’s debatable whether he would have had success here or not.
Hard to hate them when they are so much like the Raiders of old.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Joe Whitt is okay. packers 10th in passing defense last year.
We should be interviewing Bengals or Texans assistants.
They had the top NFL defenses.
cinci #1 in D last year. out of the blue.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:22 am
330.RaidO Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:13 am
lol. Any raider fans that are not sure who they will be rooting for should just go on youtube and look at the raider/pats tuck rule play. That should do the trick. Go giants!
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U right, I dont know how any of our fans could ever root for the Cheatriots & Belicheat.
NFL network had a nerve to make it the 10th year anniversary of the Tuck Rule. Man, they have really had it in for Al…everytime I see it I cringe with disbelief!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:23 am
tell me how there a good match
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Simple. the ZBS is very run-oriented and RB friendly
the Raiders are gonna have a Top 10 (probably Top 5) rushing attack next season, which will take a ton of pressure off of Palmer. He’s no longer in the Air Coryell offense that features the long ball. They didn’t run a WCO in Cincy either, did they? Palmer has been giving the ball away like toothbrushes at a dentist office. The WCO calls for quick accurate throws and timing is paramount. leadership and trust are mandatory. We have the fastest group of WR’s in the league. Get the ball to your playmakers and let them make plays. Throwing it up for grabs and hoping for the best hasn’t really worked out for us.
Cry all you want about losing Jackson, Saunders & Wylie … but those guys got DUMPED. They didn’t leave here by choice. We’re upgraded and this team will be better for it. less penalties & turnovers. more discipline. more wins.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:24 am
332,Vegas,Cmon man,we know that about ya!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 am
You watch these Giants boast, talk all this trash this week, and it makes it hard to root for them.
I do like Victor Cruz though. Great WR, cool dude, cooler name, and a sweet TD celebration (the salsa in remembrance of his grandma).
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:26 am
We lost that Pats game cause idiot Gruden punted on 4th and 1. Even though Raiders had a 5yd rushing avg for the game. They couldn’t stop us. We couldn’t stop them.
so on 4th and 1 Gruden punts.
Shouldn’t have even come down to tuck play.
Gruden only won SB cause they knew our plays.
Just a poser.
tampa went bunghole after that.
Worse evry yr till gruden got fired.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:26 am
I dont remember ZBS with Gruden.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
Dont know why so many want to bl@w gruden on this blog.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 am
Justin Griffith is here to help Kelly Skipper make Reece & Tonga stud ZBS FB’s
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Griffith may have some interaction on the field with Skipper and the backs, but probably not too much.
“A quality control assistant’s job is rooted in game preparation. They usually work at least one or two weeks ahead in the regular season.
They prepare the statistical analysis as well as the initial video study of upcoming opponents. The defensive quality control assistant breaks down opposing offenses, including how often they line up in specific formations and how they use various personnel groupings.
He charts down-and-distance situations, field position, substitutions, etc., and then gives that report to the team’s defensive staff when they begin their game planning each week during the regular season.
The offensive quality control assistant would do the same in regard to opposing defenses and then give the reports to the offensive staff.
Because of that they must work ahead of the coaching staff. If the Broncos face say, the Chiefs, in Week 3, the quality control guys have to have their reports done before the rest of the staff begins the game planning for that game.
When the team is getting ready to face the Chiefs, the quality control guys are already scouting the next opponent.
It’s a difficult job that requires a grind-it-out work ethic with a detail-oriented approach because the charts have to be correct.
Most coaches start on the vocational path with the job. The guys who don’t do it well don’t make it long enough to get promoted most of the time.
Often it’s also an ex-player’s first taste of coaching after he expresses interest in trying to be a coach, a job that weeds out those who aren’t interested enough to keep at it.”
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
333.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:18 am
Knapp’s resume is massively more impressive than Hue’s was before he got here.
Knapp will prove, that there is a ton of talent on our offensive side of the ball, as we will score more points next year than last year.
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Man, I hope you right. Because Hue doesnt have the long track record that Knapp has, and many of Knapps offenses have been very conservative, which I find hard to believe, given thats its Wcoast-off.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:29 am
We should be interviewing Bengals or Texans assistants.
They had the top NFL defenses
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Weasel,
Interesting.
Jay Hayes or Jeff FitzGerald from Cincy?
Bill Kollar or Reggie Herring from Houston?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:29 am
I do like Victor Cruz though. Great WR, cool dude, cooler name, and a sweet TD celebration (the salsa in remembrance of his grandma).
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All I can think of is Eminem “My Salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take of their underpants…” LOL
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
Hue’s offense was nothing to right home about in Washington or Atlanta, and he was the QB coach of Joe Flacco and his horrendous playoff games back than.
Hue had some of the same challenges as Knapp, limited talent and young QB’s, but if Hue Jackson and his resume can put up points, I don’t see how Knapp and his better resume can’t.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
337.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:23 am
tell me how there a good match
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Simple. the ZBS is very run-oriented and RB friendly
the Raiders are gonna have a Top 10 (probably Top 5) rushing attack next season, which will take a ton of pressure off of Palmer. He’s no longer in the Air Coryell offense that features the long ball. They didn’t run a WCO in Cincy either, did they? Palmer has been giving the ball away like toothbrushes at a dentist office. The WCO calls for quick accurate throws and timing is paramount. leadership and trust are mandatory. We have the fastest group of WR’s in the league. Get the ball to your playmakers and let them make plays. Throwing it up for grabs and hoping for the best hasn’t really worked out for us.
Cry all you want about losing Jackson, Saunders & Wylie … but those guys got DUMPED. They didn’t leave here by choice. We’re upgraded and this team will be better for it. less penalties & turnovers. more discipline. more wins.
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R.Star, you sound convincing lets hope you right!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
I miss White Castle & Mark Pi’s.
I miss the Waffle house!!!!
I miss Ohio!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 am
None of these guys have been hired or interviewed based on production. It’s not about WHAT you know, its WHO you know. These guys all have ties to Allen or McK, or in the case of our new oline coach, to Knapp.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 am
You watch these Giants boast, talk all this trash this week, and it makes it hard to root for them.
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Yep, and Brady getting unfavorably compared to Manning in the press, who also keeps bringing up the Patriots’ record against teams with winning records and so forth. I even saw an article that suggested that Brady is overrated.
All the while the Patriots are silent. I’m tellin’ you, I would NOT bet against them on Sunday.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 am
I love Belichick, the guy just doesn’t give a crap what anybody thinks and he has won with a ton of different players and schemes, these guys change up their game-plan by the week, nobody is harder to prepare for.
And contrary to popular belief, Belichick screws up a ton of his early (1-2-3) draft picks, he sure knows how to get many picks but doesn’t use them as well as people seem to think.
He just finds players and coaches them up.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 am
Griffith may have some interaction on the field with Skipper and the backs, but probably not too much.
“A quality control assistant’s job is rooted in game preparation. They usually work at least one or two weeks ahead in the regular season.
They prepare the statistical analysis as well as the initial video study of upcoming opponents
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BCZ,
thanks for the education. Justin Griffith is a nerd?
who knew ???
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 am
Hue’s offense was nothing to right home about in Washington or Atlanta, and he was the QB coach of Joe Flacco and his horrendous playoff games back than.
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Hue Jackson’s agressive style was a good match for our personnel.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 am
You got me there Rockstar.
Just looking at overall team stats.
I suppose if I researched it further I could give an answer.
My point is that we should pick from VERY successful organizations.
anyone who can go into Cinci and change the loser mentality to a #1 D is worth major consideration. Question is, who’s responsible?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 am
None of these guys have been hired or interviewed based on production. It’s not about WHAT you know, its WHO you know. These guys all have ties to Allen or McK, or in the case of our new oline coach, to Knapp.
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BCZ,
we have ties to both Ed Donatell & Tim Lewis.
get one of those guys in here for DC!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 am
I’m sure Justin Griffith can take some time to pull Reece aside and teach him the nuances of playing FB in the ZBS, even if he’s not his position coach.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:35 am
BCZ,
thanks for the education. Justin Griffith is a nerd?
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QC coach is just the entry level position. He expressed interest in coaching and thats where it starts. I learned about this for Kirwans book. It has all the charts and teaches you how to use them. If you get good at it, could be your door into the NFL…
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
bcz24 Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 am
None of these guys have been hired or interviewed based on production. It’s not about WHAT you know, its WHO you know. These guys all have ties to Allen or McK, or in the case of our new oline coach, to Knapp.
Weasel:Good point.
cronyism.
If his cronies are good, we’re set.
But if not….
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Just looking at overall team stats.
I suppose if I researched it further I could give an answer.
My point is that we should pick from VERY successful organizations.
anyone who can go into Cinci and change the loser mentality to a #1 D is worth major consideration. Question is, who’s responsible?
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Weasel,
Mike Zimmer & Wade Phillips
thats why Zimmer interviewed for a few HC jobs this offseason and Phillips was invited for a HC interview, but declined …
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Gruden was the last good coach we had and one out of very few xraider coaches who doesn’t bash AD and Raidernation. Guy actually embraces raider nation, so why Hate?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:37 am
Hue Jackson’s agressive style was a good match for our personnel.
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It really worked for Soup, who needed a push to be more aggressive.
Palmer is aggressive by nature, so I think the reverse effect with Knapp will help.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 am
And contrary to popular belief, Belichick screws up a ton of his early (1-2-3) draft picks, he sure knows how to get many picks but doesn’t use them as well as people seem to think
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Belichiks drafts have been horrible… worse than ours in a lot of respects, the difference is his picks arent magnified by being top 10s, and he is the master of collecting and stockpiling picks. He can easily move on from his mistakes, without major detriment to his team
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 am
It’s easy to win when you cheat!!!!
Billisacheat and the Tuck rule are the reasons why I hate the Pats.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:40 am
I’m sure Justin Griffith can take some time to pull Reece aside and teach him the nuances of playing FB in the ZBS, even if he’s not his position coach.
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exactly what I was thinking (errr.. hoping) Marley!
I hope Skipper spends considerable time with RB’s Miller & Jones this offseason. Those guys will be called upon if DMAC gets injured, as expected
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Louis Rankin (Stockton native, baby!) back either
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
The patriots didn’t cheat with the Tuck Rule. They benefitted from it but they didn’t call it. Sh1z happens, time to get over it.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:42 am
I think I read somewhere that there are only 7 players remaining from the Patriots’ last Super Bowl team, and they have been GOOD since they last won one.
So much for roster turnover spelling disaster.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
Deathrow I agree.
Just that we never won even an AFC championship under Gruden and people talk about him like he’s a deity.
If I’m going to revere former coaches, it’s Madden or Flores.
And that 4th and 1 thing dumb@ss Gruden decision against Pats will piss me off forever. That was our year right there.
Kind of like the SD game this year. almost no passing in red zone against SD. But well over 400 yds passing everywhere else. no wonder Hue was 16th in red zone offense. That game was winnable. They couldn’t stop our pass game. Only Hue could. and he did every time we got in the red zone.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
Palmer is aggressive by nature, so I think the reverse effect with Knapp will help.
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Yup. Palmer is a gunslinger. Not a guy you want heaving it up for grabs to a bunch of young unproven WR’s.
not a fit for the WCO because he has a strong arm? slap yourself. Palmer is 32 years old and if anything, this offense will prolong his career – if he’s successful at it
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:45 am
Before we worry about who Skip should spend his time with, we need to know who is going to be on our team. We know we are not keeping Bush and DMac. Who goes? I can’t see any rookie coach being ok with trading his best offensive weapon, even if he is injury prone. Who then do we look to to replace Bush? With our limited draft ammo you have to think FA
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 am
Lack of utilizing our TE killed us in the red zone at times.
Our trickeration stuff that really worked, all the screens and reverses and stuff, isn’t really useful in the red zone.
Knapp will improve red zone offense in 2012.
Sorry, Seabass no more 6 FG games and Pro Bowls.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Gonna have the grills fired up by noon…probably a little buzz by 1…should be a good Sunday!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Bcz24 Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
The patriots didn’t cheat with the Tuck Rule. They benefitted from it but they didn’t call it.
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Really? You mean the Ref wasn’t part of the Pat org? Who knew?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 am
I think we bring back both.
But I would rather keep Bush at a cheaper rate and get the draft pick from trading McFadden, than just crossing our fingers on Darren and letting Bush walk.
And I wouldn’t have said that 6 months ago.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 am
Those trickeries were great! Only 2 missed right? The one Lechler overthrew Rock and the one in KC where the clock ran out!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:49 am
Dmac is not on the field enuf.
Just when we start to rely on him he hurts his poor little ankle and we struggle to replace.
Bush started out good but later was tiptoing to the line like Lamont Jordan.
Need a good reliable back.
Cut the cord.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
Really? You mean the Ref wasn’t part of the Pat org? Who knew?
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Put “Patriot” and 2001 together and see what you come up with.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
Tuck Rule aside,
I hate the Patriots because of Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Chad OchoCinco & Gerard Warren.
I like them because of Rob Gronkowski, Logan Mankins, Vince Wilfork & Sterling Moore.
4-4. I’m rooting for Eli Manning because his brother is tabbed the better QB and Eli would have more rings. Plus he dissed the Chargers on draft day. I still love that. EM was my fantasy QB this year and did pretty well. A lot better than I expected. I wasn’t sure he’d even outplay my backup Jay Cutler, LOL
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
I wouldn’t be suprised to see Pryor in on some red zone packages.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 am
Yeah.
Rooting for Giants.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 am
Love to see what Pryor can do.
Raiders should have a good look at him before they decide his fate.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 am
Eli does have something to prove! He is in the shadow pf Peyton, but is it because Eli just had better teams around him…remember Peyton did go twice, but I still question Caldwell’s decision to rest his starters on week 16!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
Putting palmer in a wco system is like putting him in option run system. It’s not going to work. Already tried it at usc. It’s not his style of play. In a wco palmer=JRbust. Actually JRbust looked better than palmer running a wco system.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
Pryor HAS to be our backup this year.
If he is still 3rd string this season, that is not a good sign.
Knapp will coach him up, and get him some good reps in the preseason.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
ET,
I get the Patriot act!!!
LOL
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Carson Palmer = 2012 Pro Bowler, top 10 QB rating
Print that!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
I can’t see any rookie coach being ok with trading his best offensive weapon
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BCZ,
Lane Kiffin insisted that we unload Randy Moss (Al’s prized possession) and Davis, as stubborn as he was, signed off on it – for only a 4th rounder!
You don’t think McKenzie would allow Allen the same?
and no, I’m not comparing McFadden to Moss – let’s not open that can of worms
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:55 am
Seriously RaidO?
Gotta be honest.
I think JM was the worst nfl QB I have ever seen hands down.
I actually just stopped watching the games cause I couldn’t take it. Too painful to watch.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:56 am
Putting palmer in a wco system is like putting him in option run system. It’s not going to work. Already tried it at usc. It’s not his style of play. In a wco palmer=JRbust. Actually JRbust looked better than palmer running a wco system.
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is it April Fools Day?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 am
385.Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
ET,
I get the Patriot act!!!
LOL
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You’re on the right track, O!!!
I just think that it was very important to certain people that the “Patriots” did well in the 2001 season, and that’s all I’m going to say on that subject.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 am
I’ve been negative on DMAC for a long time, but if we take a step back and look at it, he had the foot injury and he was about ready to be able to play and he’ll be good to go by camp.
The only thing to prevent from playing a full season is another injury. History says he’ll have another one, but we don’t know that for a certainty.
The upside is he was the top rusher in the league when he went down and he’ll be fresh to go at it again.
The other thing is, if we give him up in lieu of someone else, you’re not gonna find anyone as talented as him FOR him, and how does anyone know the guy we get in return won’t get injured himself?
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:59 am
is it April Fools Day?
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It must be. Debo was in here last night saying that he’d bet a whole lot of money that Knapp would say that Russell was “bright, a hard worker, and very coachable”.
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:59 am
ET,
I thought I was the only one who thinks that.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:00 am
Yeah JRbust was really bad but he did have a few very few flashes of greatness. Chiefs game come back.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 am
you don’t even CONSIDER trading McFadden unless one of two things happen:
1. Allen, Knapp & Skipper think he’ll flop in the ZBS
or
2. somebody offers you the farm!
I don’t want to pitch him out the backdoor because of his injury history and watch him become the best RB in the league for the next 5 or 6 years. Al Miller just put 5 gallons of milk in DMAC’s fridge. Let’s see what happens
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
At what point do we call Dmac unreliable?
Never any guarantees a new RB wont get injured but it’s pretty certain dmac will hurt his ankle again this season. Unless something changes. His off season workout routine has been solid last 2 years. so i think he just has glass ankles, feet.
Then again might be freak coincidence.
Words gotta be out about his ankles. This might be happening because D
players are focusing on the ankles.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
Debo was in here last night saying that he’d bet a whole lot of money that Knapp would say that Russell was “bright, a hard worker, and very coachable”.
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ET,
the Raiders are in the market for a #3 QB. I guess we’ll find out!
Go ahead and bet Debo a pancake breakfast at IHOP. Me thinks you will prevail
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:07 am
393.Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:59 am
ET,
I thought I was the only one who thinks that.
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If you are referring to post #390, then you are not. We are in agreement, my friend.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:09 am
Go ahead and bet Debo a pancake breakfast at IHOP. Me thinks you will prevail
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Lol. I told him I’d love some of that action, but I thought that Knapp would do take the high road and issue a “no comment”.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
JR’s pass to J Porter for a TD.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
edward teach Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 am
You’re on the right track, O!!!
I just think that it was very important to certain people that the “Patriots” did well in the 2001 season, and that’s all I’m going to say on that subject.
Weasel: cmon. Say more. Are you talking about the video cheating? Cause no doubt they were cheaters and the nfl destroyed the evidence.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
400.
Couple games there he got my hopes up that I was wrong.
Maybe he ran out of p-drank those days.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 am
I was aiming a little higher than the NFL, Weaselbit.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 am
JR had all the talent in the world:
He was big
Strong arm
He can moved or a big guy
Too bad he likes to get wasted more than playing football.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 am
Teach. Never heard this. Tell me.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:15 am
“Debo was in here last night saying that he’d bet a whole lot of money that Knapp would say that Russell was “bright, a hard worker, and very coachable”.
Debo is also about as smart as Billy Bob Thorton in Slingblade.
Give him some of them french fried potatoes.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:15 am
Just a theory running around in my little brain, Weaselbit. You could probably figure out what I meant.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 am
you don’t even CONSIDER trading McFadden unless one of two things happen:
1. Allen, Knapp & Skipper think he’ll flop in the ZBS
or
2. somebody offers you the farm!
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1 – and DMC’s reliability are a huge obstacle…its all but obvious, when they are starved for picks, and 16-18 people are unsigned – its an opportunity to fill in the team with “his guys” lot of FA’s and affordable ones that fit what Allen is attempting to do, and there needs to be a house cleaning, anyway. – the nucleus is overpaid, and they need a new bunch of over-achievers that ball, and additional picks that can contribute right away. I wouldn’t be surprised if DMC, Murphy, Michael Mitchell, maybe even Bruce Campbell would be served up.
I don’t want to pitch him out the backdoor because of his injury history and watch him become the best RB in the league for the next 5 or 6 years. Al Miller just put 5 gallons of milk in DMAC’s fridge. Let’s see what happens
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Yeah-but-Knapp-hiring-has-many-points-co?blockID=642918&feedID=2801
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
I still have my JaBustus Jersey! I have gained weight, so it doesn’t fit anymore. How ironic.
I’m too fat to wear my JaBustus Jersey!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 am
409.Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
I still have my JaBustus Jersey! I have gained weight, so it doesn’t fit anymore. How ironic.
I’m too fat to wear my JaBustus Jersey!!!
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He probably has one big enough for you AND a friend.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:21 am
Sh@t Teach.
Just got it.
Took a minute.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
I’m sure he does.
Our QB was bigger than a few OL on the team.
6′6 300+
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
Not so far-fetched, is it?
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:23 am
RaiderSam. Makes sense. but get some young killer backs for cheap to back him up and be prepared for the injury contingency.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:24 am
I can’t understand it?! He did order the Fish plate during his interview!
LOL
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:26 am
3rd and longs were so painful during the Jamarcus era.
Anytime we converted those, and there were a few, I looked around to see if a picture was going to fall off the wall or something.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
I can’t understand it?! He did order the Fish plate during his interview!
LOL
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Probably covered it in butter and tarter sauce.
And not the fat-free sauce!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
no Teach it’s not.
We were getting flagged a lot for some weird sh@t that day.
Leveled the playing field.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
DMC’s reliability are a huge obstacle…its all but obvious, when they are starved for picks, and 16-18 people are unsigned – its an opportunity to fill in the team with “his guys” lot of FA’s and affordable ones that fit what Allen is attempting to do, and there needs to be a house cleaning, anyway. – the nucleus is overpaid, and they need a new bunch of over-achievers that ball, and additional picks that can contribute right away. I wouldn’t be surprised if DMC, Murphy, Michael Mitchell, maybe even Bruce Campbell would be served up.
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Sam,
As many Jackson, Saunders & Wylie fans point out … offense wasn’t the problem last year.
Here are DMAC’s base salaries (per roto)
2012: $5.65 million
2013: $5.85 million
2014: Free Agent
Here were the Top 10 highest paid RB’s of 2011
1. Jamaal Charles
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Darren McFadden
5. Maurice Jones-Drew
6. Michael Turner
7. Frank Gore
8. Brandon Jacobs
9. Chris Johnson
10. Cedric Benson
does Mike Bush expect to join that company in 2012?
We have no idea what his contract demands are!
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
I would prefer to keep both Bush and Darren.
But gun to my head, I would trade Darren and keep Bush, and focus on drafting another RB in a year or two.
I can’t see letting Bush walk, and than rolling with Darren and Taiwan, and risk having Reece and Cartright toke the rock down the stretch of a playoff run.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Here were the Top 10 highest paid RB’s of 2011
1. Jamaal Charles
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Darren McFadden
5. Maurice Jones-Drew
6. Michael Turner
7. Frank Gore
8. Brandon Jacobs
9. Chris Johnson
10. Cedric Benson
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Take out Jacobs (who is part of a 1-2 combo) and there aren’t a whole lot of playoff wins in there, FOR THEIR CAREERS.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
I have that dumb fucccccgks Jersey to it was a gift fits awesome its an authentic one too so it sux it just hangs in my closet. I tried to see if I could get NFL shop to change name at least but they don’t do that.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Weaselbit,
I don’t know about the whole game, but that was a critical play. Someone may have been watching that game and a light may have come on regarding an opportunity.
The review took an awful long time.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
Bush is more reliable.
One of the reasons his impact diminished with time was Hue’s predictable play calling which had defenses stacking up against him. Dude takes off when there’s a hole. O-line can only do so much when defense knows who’s getting the ball.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
After the Bengals/Gradkowski game, I offered to mail my authentic #2 jersey to whoever wanted to pay for me to ship it to them.
The great 504 jumped on it, and other than that, I got one taker from Memphis who said he works for at-risk kids and he could give it away, lol.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:40 am
LMAO Vegas! He probably did.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:40 am
lol! Yeah my friend burned his JRbust jersey.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
I would prefer to keep both Bush and Darren.
But gun to my head, I would trade Darren and keep Bush, and focus on drafting another RB in a year or two.
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JFB,
Texans will place the franchise tag on Foster if they can’t hammer out a long term deal. Either way – he’ll join that Top 10 list
Would would we expect to get via trade for DMAC’s services?
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:44 am
I can’t see letting Bush walk, and than rolling with Darren and Taiwan, and risk having Reece and Cartright toke the rock down the stretch of a playoff run.
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If any of our running backs are “toking the rock” we’re in big trouble.
Sorry, Vegas. Couldn’t help myself
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
Mike Bush turns 28 in June. buyer beware
that guys has 2 good years left, tops.
He’ll probably be asking for a 4-year $50 million contract … same with Tyvon Branch
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
If any of our running backs are “toking the rock” we’re in big trouble.
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LOL…..go sign Stanley Wilson and Timmy Smith!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
the magical age that RB’s decline is 30 …
McFadden is 3 or 4 years younger than Bush, he’s under contract and he’s twice as explosive
I see DMAC being the #1 RB in the league next season. Especially with the ZBS & WCO
Can’t wait to see all the haters eat some crow. Let me pass you fools some forks!
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
I bought my son a Russell jersey when Russell first was drafted (it was the only one that was offered in his size)…after the horrible 3 years here, the next year, I brought him to a tailgate! My wife said, here have him wear this one…I grabbed it and threw it away! So I gave him one of my hats instead…
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
ET,
That’s the problem. The amount of time it took to make that decision.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
Would would we expect to get via trade for DMAC’s services?
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Probably a mid 2nd and another mid round pick.
Say a 2012 2nd and 5th or a 2012 2nd and a 2013 3rd
Again, I would prefer to keep both (I doubt Bush gets big-boy money) but we have to be prepared for all angles.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
is Travis Henry still available?
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Here were the Top 10 highest paid RB’s of 2011
1. Jamaal Charles
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Darren McFadden
5. Maurice Jones-Drew
6. Michael Turner
7. Frank Gore
8. Brandon Jacobs
9. Chris Johnson
10. Cedric Benson
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Take out Jacobs (who is part of a 1-2 combo) and there aren’t a whole lot of playoff wins in there, FOR THEIR CAREERS.
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Yep, exactly why I was saying that we’re going the wrong way with our offense and Offensive Coordinator. Running backs don’t get teams into the playoffs any more.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 am
The wifey had the opportunity to buy a Jamarcus jersey like myself, and instead opted for the generic 00 pink one, lol.
Pretty astute evaluator she is. She doesn’t read any blogs, keep on the draft or college or any of that stuff, and watched about 2 games this season and decided that D-Moore was awesome and going to be great, and now has a white #17 jersey she can be proud of.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 am
Timmy smith?! Is that the Redskins RB who ws busted a few times?
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
434.Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
ET,
That’s the problem. The amount of time it took to make that decision.
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You could say that there was enough time there for a couple of phone calls to be made.
Just sayin’.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 am
Timmy Smith and Stanley Wilson = rock tokers
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Carson Palmer = 2012 Pro Bowler, top 10 QB rating
Print that!!
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What exactly are you basing this on?
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
is Travis Henry still available?
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Sure, when he gets out of Federal Prison this July…
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Carson Palmer = 2012 Pro Bowler, top 10 QB rating
Print that!!
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What exactly are you basing this on?
If we had a pass-oriented OC or one that at least has done moderately well in any recent history I could see you saying this…
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
ET,
We are on the same page.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:58 am
It’s almost pointless burying players jerseys seems like we haven’t had a great real raider that’s been on the team longer than 5 yrs. I just can’t wear a fighting kicker or punters jersey lol.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
What exactly are you basing this on?
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The fact he has a full offseason, a ton of talent around him, and a better coaching staff than last year.
The top 10 QB rating is the most important thing, Andy Dalton and Tebow were “Pro Bowlers” this year.
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
I got a McClain jersey.
Kind of worried if that is going to be worn in 2013.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:00 am
RUMSPRINGA!!!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:01 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
I should have bought Nnamdi’s, but I went for the throwback Bo.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
I wonder if Pryor will change his number to #2 , you know AD was the one who banned that number and mccenzie prob don’t give a fat rats asszzz.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
Morning DMAC.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
I got a McClain jersey.
Kind of worried if that is going to be worn in 2013.
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I’ll trade you my authentic Luke Lawton jersey for your Romac. What do you say?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
Gotta run, gentlemen. Thanks for the opportunity to shoot it with the semi’s.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
I wonder if Pryor will change his number to #2 , you know AD was the one who banned that number and mccenzie prob don’t give a fat rats asszzz.
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Aaron Brooks, Jamarcuss….burn all #2 jerseys
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
I got a “throwback” snake jersey I bought at the county fair here in ABQ, and even though it has all the Mitchell and Ness stuff on it, I know it is some type of knock-off and I don’t feel comfortable wearing it.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
What exactly are you basing this on?
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The fact he has a full offseason, a ton of talent around him, and a better coaching staff than last year.
The top 10 QB rating is the most important thing, Andy Dalton and Tebow were “Pro Bowlers” this year.
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JFB, I think the place where you and I have the biggest disagreement is on the Offensive Coordinator.
I’m of the opinion based on seeing him in action here, in Atlanta and in Seattle that he isn’t creative enough to use the talent that we have properly. They’re not precise timed route runners at WR. It’s not playing to Palmer’s strengths. And, McFadden wasn’t good under him except for 1 game.
I hope that he is able to make more of it like he did in SFO a decade ago, but since then the NFL has changed. The rules have changed and it’s opened it up a lot for WRs and QBs and I don’t think he has adapted to that.
The only good thing I can say about Knapp is that normally the running game goes well with no name RBs under him. But, these days, the running teams don’t make the playoffs for the most part.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
I’ll trade you my authentic Luke Lawton jersey for your Romac. What do you say?
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Throw in a 2 for 1 at the Golden Corral and we may have a deal!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
I wonder if Pryor will change his number to #2 , you know AD was the one who banned that number and mccenzie prob don’t give a fat rats asszzz.
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Probably not. I heard it comes w/ a hefty price tag, if you want to change your #.
Didn’t AP just flip out for trying to change his #.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
Running backs don’t get teams into the playoffs any more.
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Mav,
Foster, Rice & McGahee didn’t get the Texans, Ravens & Donkeys into the playoffs?
Cincy & Pitt don’t need Benson or Mendenhall?
Where would the 49ers be without Frank Gore?
Bradshaw isn’t needed in New York?
Turner isn’t needed in Atlanta?
not everybody is the Patriots, Saints, Packers & Lions!
not every team has a QB like Brady, Brees, Rodgers or Stafford either
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
I’ll trade you my authentic Luke Lawton jersey for your Romac. What do you say?
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Throw in a 2 for 1 at the Golden Corral and we may have a deal!!!
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I’ll see what I can do.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
448.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
I got a McClain jersey.
Kind of worried if that is going to be worn in 2013.
LOL, or 2012!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
we would be stupid to get rid of DMC, he is the type of back that would kill the raiders if on another team, he is too explosive, many of bush’s long runs would of been touchdowns if mcfadden was running the ball, we need both. i would be very upset if they got rid of DMC, i’m already upset with the coaching hires and al saunders going to KC but i’ll have to see how they play next year to be for sure, i’m giving them the benefit of the doubt since this is a new raider era
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
According to the NFL, a player has to buy all the old jerseys with the old #.
AP has to pay 1 million to change his #.
R Goodell is making the NFL more of a business than a sport. I hate that.
It’s all about $$$ with him.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
I can believe Walton is still with the Lakers now that’s a motha fugggin scholarship .
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
460.DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
I wonder if Pryor will change his number to #2 , you know AD was the one who banned that number and mccenzie prob don’t give a fat rats asszzz.
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Probably not. I heard it comes w/ a hefty price tag, if you want to change your #.
Didn’t AP just flip out for trying to change his #.
Yeah but that is because he is a starter and have a bunch of jerseys that is probably on the market still! Changing his number means that they would have to thrash it and then create new ones. I am not sure if there are any Pryor jerseys out there…
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
Sports shouldn’t be just about profits and $$. It shouldn’t be a business.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
RaiderZMaverick,
You do realize Knapp called plays for only a couple of games here right? Kiffin called plays and than Knapp for a month, and than Cable.
Knapp is a guy who has had many different organizations hire him and promote him, so either they all are stupid, or he knows what he is doing.
I trust it is the latter. He isn’t going to stick to some system that is going to fail. He isn’t Mike Martz.
He will play the players to their strengths.
He knows he doesn’t have Jeff Garcia, Matt Hassleback or Mike Vick here (his previous QB’s), guys with great athleticism with either limited arm-strength or accuracy issues.
We will be fine. Knapp got promoted, Hue demoted.
The league has spoken on who is the better OC, IMO.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
468.Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
Sports shouldn’t be just about profits and $$. It shouldn’t be a business.
Just like the throw back days!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
Coming from a Dubs fans perspective. Luke Walton’s a stud.
lol
Vote David Lee to the all-star. Dude is well deserved.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Ocho cinco did it, that dumb azz going To be the next TO.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
Luke Walton: $5,680,000 2011-2012
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
Hwnrdr,
Exactly!!
Players played because they loved Football. Things are way too complicated now due to $$.
Simplify!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 am
raider O because of the contracts the nfl has with reebok or nike the nfl player has to buy the jersey’s to pay reebok or nike for the jersey’s. they make a certain amount with that number for that player so someone has to pay them back for jerseys not sold for changing numbers.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 am
The David Lee was trade was a great one.
I was the only one who was on board with that. Everybody loved Anthony Randolph.
I never got the love with underproducing talent. I mean, if a guy is much faster, athletic, taller and can jump higher than just about everybody, but still sucks, shouldn’t that be a pretty good sign?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:14 am
I miss HUE he was a Raider Coach, fit the whole description.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
So when MJ came back w/ the .45, I wonder how much he cashed out?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
Big Chill,
I understand.
I’m excited about switching back to Nike next season.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
What’s Reebok supposed to do, just be hung out to dry with a rack full of jerseys they can’t sell, because a player want a new number?
Fck that. Why should a player really care what number he is? It’s the most superficial thing I can think of.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 am
The David Lee was trade was a great one.
I was the only one who was on board with that. Everybody loved Anthony Randolph.
I never got the love with underproducing talent. I mean, if a guy is much faster, athletic, taller and can jump higher than just about everybody, but still sucks, shouldn’t that be a pretty good sign?
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Not everybody.
Randolph was waaaaaaaaaaaay overhyped, just like Brandon Wright.
Don’t miss these dudes at all.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
The RB situation is going to be interesting this offseason.
I know DMAC is an injury waiting to happen, but the broken eye socket was just a freak accident. His foot problems have been irritating and hopefully the injury doesn’t affect his career.
I can see Bush testing the waters and i doubt Reggie over pays for his services.
The FA RB pool isn’t the greatest this year, so i’m anxious to see how this plays out.
I expect Forte, Rice and Lynch to be Franchised. I would love to have Lynch, but he expressed his desire to return to Seattle.
However, we do have to bring somebody in to possibly replace Bush. DMAC and Jones have not been reliable.
Do we draft a rb this year? What do ya’ll think of S. Slaton to be a back up? He’ll come cheap.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
yeah i liked nike jersey’s better too. i had a nike charles woodson authentic back in the day when he was a raiduh
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:18 am
anybody got a list of the RB’s available in FA?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:18 am
Matt Forte is a stud!
The most underrated back in the league. IMO
Dude can do it all.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
Wright would be a decent 7th or 8th guy off the bench, but he can’t stay healthy.
That J-Rich trade set us back. He was the heart and soul of our squad, and we schlepped him off for a role player.
SMH
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
the Raiders were running all over people in 2007 with horses like Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes & Echemandu (Bush was put on ice)
I like the Raiders will be fine in 2012 with horses like McFadden, Jones, Miller & Rankin!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
Is Steve Slaton still in the league?
I thought he fumbled himself right out of a paycheck.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
How does Nike/ Reebok/Puma get that NFL contract? What’s in it for the NFL other than sports equipment?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
FK Rankin!
Didn’t he talk schit about the organization after he got cut.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
I luv DMAC, but I would replace him w/ Forte any day.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
490.DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
FK Rankin!
Didn’t he talk schit about the organization after he got cut.
Kinda sorta like Sterling Moore, now that he is playing in the SB!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
2012 RBs: McFadden, Tolbert/ Hillis, T Jones, and Reece will get some snaps
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
I actually think Reece should get more carries.
Pretty good running with the ball, and pushs the pile.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Can Ronnie Brown still play?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
I think Jason Snelling could be a possible cheap replacement for Bush, if he leaves.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Can Ronnie Brown still play?
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I was just going to ask the same ?
I’ve always like this dude for some reason.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
I think Reece should be more involved in passing situations. IMHO he can be better than Hernandez from the Pats. He was a Good/ Huge WR at Washington.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
I think Jim and Moore have the best hands on the team.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
My boy “rock head” is a FA.
I hope we bring back our leader on special teams.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Him*
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
I actually think Reece should get more carries.
Pretty good running with the ball, and pushs the pile.
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Agreed!
Reece makes Bush expendable imo
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
DMAC has the best hands on the team.
Hands down.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
So when can we start cutting players?
“stiff armed ” Eugene has a nice contract for a backup safety/special teams player.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Rock Cartwright is an absolute must re-sign.
Leaders like him, who are dirt cheap anyways, should not be shown the door.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMAC has great hands for a RB, but not better than Moore & Reece. Go look at some video of Reece. Great hands.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
So now that we saw what Gaither has and after he shut down Wimbley, can we sign him to be our new RT?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
The good news is Reece is a RFA.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
I don’t think Gaither is a good fit in ZBS.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMAC has great hands for a RB, but not better than Moore & Reece. Go look at some video of Reece. Great hands.
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Yeah, Reece has great hands. (I remeber meeting him and shaking his hands. Dude had some huuuuge fk’n hands.)
I don’t see how these NFL dudes drop so many balls w/ such big hands.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Not a great year in FA for OTs.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
D-Moore certainly has the best hands in traffic. He brings down catches with defenders around him, that nobody else can.
But he did drop 2 easy ones that I could remember last year.
Consistancy will come with some time.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
I don’t think Gaither is a good fit in ZBS.
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I don’t think we’ll be strictly ZB’s. We’ll mix it up.
If thats the case Coup should of been let go a long time ago, when we switched over to power blocking.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
LOL DMAC
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
2012 Free Agent RB’s
R. Rice 25
A. Foster 26
Forte 26
M. Lynch 26
M. Bush 28
P. Hillis 26
Tolbert 26
K. Smith 25
R. Grant 29
K. Bell 25
T. Hightower 26
C. Benson 29
BenJarvus Green-Ellis 27
Steve Slaton 26
Justin Forsett 26
LaRod Stephens-Howling 25
Tashard Choice 27
Jason Snelling 28
LaDainian Tomlinson 33
Cadillac Williams 30
Mewelde Moore 30
Kregg Lumpkin 28
Jackie Battle 28
Ronnie Brown 30
Maurice Morris 32
Jerious Norwood 29
Thomas Jones 34
Sammy Morris 35
Rock Cartwright 32
Lorenzo Booker 28
Derrick Ward 32
Chester Taylor 32
Jerome Harrison 29
Kevin Faulk 36
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
DMAC,
I hope so. I’m not a huge fan of ZBS.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
432.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
the magical age that RB’s decline is 30 …
McFadden is 3 or 4 years younger than Bush, he’s under contract and he’s twice as explosive
I see DMAC being the #1 RB in the league next season. Especially with the ZBS & WCO
Can’t wait to see all the haters eat some crow. Let me pass you fools some forks!
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i gotta go with rock. No way they get rid of the most explosive RB in football. Bush will walk and someone will pay him to be a feature back. There are plenty of RBs to be had to fill in for DMac or lighten his load. BJGE would be my first choice. He is cheap, because he doesn’t get a lot of work. Plus you have to love a RB whos career statline for fumbles is ZERO
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Can you guys imagine LT in a silver and black uni.
Puuuuuuuke!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
516.Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
DMAC,
I hope so. I’m not a huge fan of ZBS.
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Based on what? Why aren’t you a fan?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
512.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
D-Moore certainly has the best hands in traffic. He brings down catches with defenders around him, that nobody else can.
But he did drop 2 easy ones that I could remember last year.
Consistancy will come with some time.
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DMo is our true #1 primary receiver. He made some rookie mistakes but I truly believe that kid is gonna be a stud for years to come.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
Kregg Lumpkin would be an inexpensive 3rd down back.
Great hands and good blocker.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Not a great year in FA for OTs
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Much better year for FA guards
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
DMo is our true #1 primary receiver. He made some rookie mistakes but I truly believe that kid is gonna be a stud for years to come.
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Co-sign!!
Hard worker as well, seems to have the right attitude and focused on winning.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
521.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
Kregg Lumpkin would be an inexpensive 3rd down back.
Great hands and good blocker.
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Thats another reason why I don’t want to keep Bush, he can’t pass protect for sh1t, and why I would love to replace him with Green-Ellis
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
FA Wish list:
1- Mario Williams
2- C Nicks/ B Grubbs
3- T Porter
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
We need to get Moore off punt returns.
Not sure why Jacoby can’t do that and be our full-on returner, but we need a punt returner.
Literally, white webster has been our best punt returner the last 3 years, and he was still awful!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
I know about Lumpkin, because I picked him up on my FF team, and would watch him hoping for some 3rd down lighting.
Unfortunately, I would watch him pick up the blitz flawlessly, but you don’t get any FF points for that.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
I’m not a fan cause I can!! lol
I like my OL to out power the DL more than trying out scheme them.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
I think JLH was our best punt returner, BEFORE he took that hit from Weddle.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Who the hell is Lumpkin?
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
I Also like, if you are interested:
1- Vertical offense with a good running game. Use PA a lot.
2- Man Coverage, and 4-3 defense
3- power blocking > ZBS
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
530.DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Who the hell is Lumpkin?
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3rd down back in TB
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
T. Hightower 26
BenJarvus Green-Ellis 27
Steve Slaton 26
LaRod Stephens-Howling 25
Tashard Choice 27
Jason Snelling 28
Jackie Battle 28
Jerious Norwood 29
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I would roll the dice with ANY of these guys if Mike Bush can’t be retained at a reasonable rate
DMAC + Reece + Jones + Miller + Rankin (or one of the above) = Top 5 Rushing offense
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Dmo wont be returning punts anymore. That was stupid. Ford will be the full time return guy. Taiwan should get some looks too, he was a nasty returner in college.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:58 am
Returning punts would be ideal for Taiwan Jones.
At this stage, I would be happy with a guy who isn’t afraid to take a few steps in and fair catch a 41 yard punt, and who can not run directly to the sidelines on the return.
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
LaRod Stephens-Howling should be signed as our return man. I think he could be productive in the ZBS as well
Tell Bush & LMiller to kick rocks!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
It takes a lot of heart and courage to be a return man in the NFL.
Its not for everyone.
We need to find someone who is fearless!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
Why can’t Ford return punts?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
DMAC + Reece + Jones + LSH + Cartwright = Top 5 Rushing offense
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
LaRod Stephens-Howling should be signed as our return man. I think he could be productive in the ZBS as well
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Not a bad idea.
Can he return punts?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
I still don’t understand these teams that deny permission to speak with their position coaches. I mean, I can understand if they think their DC might be a HC candidate in a year or two and they have that position coach in mind for a promotion. But not if they’re just keeping him at the same position.
Take Richard Smith (Broncos LB coach) for example. If I’m Smith, I’m fuming at the fact the Donks have denied permission for me to be interviewed for a promotion to DC and yet overlooked me for their own vacancy.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
Is Steve Slaton still in the league?
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I was trying to think of who A. Fosters back up was last year that played well against us.
I mixed him up with D. Ward, now that you mentioned that.
He (Slaton) was on the Dolphins this past season.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
I think JLH was our best punt returner
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DMAC,
newsflash: Housh out, Higgins (back) in!
Schilens out, Hagan (back) in!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
I think JLH was our best punt returner
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DMAC,
newsflash: Housh out, Higgins (back) in!
Schilens out, Hagan (back) in!
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I can dig it.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
Ford from 2010-11 was our best returner and would blow the doors off of. Jlh, who would want to trade this guy, best wr performance I even saw was him vs Kc 2010
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
I still don’t understand these teams that deny permission to speak with their position coaches. I mean, I can understand if they think their DC might be a HC candidate in a year or two and they have that position coach in mind for a promotion. But not if they’re just keeping him at the same position.
Take Richard Smith (Broncos LB coach) for example. If I’m Smith, I’m fuming at the fact the Donks have denied permission for me to be interviewed for a promotion to DC and yet overlooked me for their own vacancy.
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Which is why the assistants with any clout will have their contracts written so they can leave for promotions with other teams.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
What does it matter who your 5th & 6th WR’s are?
DHB, Moore, Ford & Murphy are your Top 4
JLH contributes on ST and was our leading WR for 2 years. you can’t say he’s not explosive. BCZ hates the guy and even he was screaming and jumping up & down when he housed that short lazy throw from JaWalrus against Buffalo
Hagan was a preseason stud at WR and as JFB points out – a monster on ST as well
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 am
I think Knapp will keep Reece at FB, but he will use him a lot.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
Assistants with clout? Is that an oxymoron?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
If you people want to trade a WR, then trade Murphy.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
EJ Henderson?
Anyone?
EJ > Romac
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
Assistants with clout? Is that an oxymoron?
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If someone’s well-known as a top assistant and several teams are wanting his services…
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Bruce Campbell is a physical specimen. a height/weight/speed guy already under contract that obviously hasn’t made an impression anywhere on the O-Line. strength & speed are his two biggest attributes. technique must be the problem. I haven’t heard any rumors about him being “soft” like Mario Henderson.
Try him at FB!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Hagan should have never been dropped in favor of slow old man Housh. Big Al was right. But we all know that…
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:13 am
DHB, Moore, Ford, and Murphy are young, under contract, CHEAP, and played well last season. I really don’t think we should trade any WR, and we should add a proven 2nd tier FA.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
We need to get Moore off punt returns.
Not sure why Jacoby can’t do that and be our full-on returner, but we need a punt returner.
Literally, white webster has been our best punt returner the last 3 years, and he was still awful!!
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This is one of the things we need that we can fill in the draft this year. We’ll be getting mostly project players but I dont see why we cant draft an immediate punt returner.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
DMAC + Tolbert/ Hillis + T Jones + Reece =
TOP 3 Rushing offense!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Permission granted or denied to interview Whitt Jr. ???
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
JLH contributes on ST and was our leading WR for 2 years. you can’t say he’s not explosive. BCZ hates the guy and even he was screaming and jumping up & down when he housed that short lazy throw from JaWalrus against Buffalo
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I don’t hate him. I just think we have better guys now, and he wasn’t worth retaining. I got no beef with JLH. I don’t HATE anybody who gave their all for the silver and black. Now, if you want to talk about players I hate… Warren Sapp and Jamarshmallow Russell come to mind.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
I wouldn’t mind Tolbert. Not totally sold on Hillis. He had one good year, but last year was a joke. I mean he sat out a game for a sore throat? Come on man
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Now, if you want to talk about players I hate… Warren Sapp and Jamarshmallow Russell come to mind
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Co-signed!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Tolbert would be my favorite to replace Bush if he leaves. BenJarvus Green-Ellis wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize.
Isaiah Pead and Terrance Ganaway should be draft targets.
DMac should be traded for picks.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hillis and the Browns had contract issues I think.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Now, if you want to talk about players I hate… Warren Sapp and Jamarshmallow Russell come to mind
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word.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Hillis sat out a game for a sore throat?
I bet Jack Lambert wishes he could play against Cleveland twice per season
Heck, I don’t know what Lambert is doing these days at 59 years old … but I’d hire that guy as LB Coach tomorrow just to whip Rolando’s ace!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
DMac should be traded for picks.
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You will never get the value for the player IMO. The only way I give up Dmac is if someone makes an offer you cant refuse.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
True statement Raider O
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Yep, Hillis missed week 3 vs Dolphins due to ’strep throat’…
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
FA Wish list:
1- Mario Williams
2- C Nicks/ B Grubbs
3- T Porter
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1. Mario
2. Myers
3. Finnegan
4. V. Jackson
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
You will never get the value for the player IMO. The only way I give up Dmac is if someone makes an offer you cant refuse.
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I’d take a 2nd rounder and maybe another mid/late-round choice if a team offers that up. All it takes is one team to be enamored with DMac’s “potential” – and I would argue that there are a few teams out there who would be.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 am
I think Allen should take a look at Peter Giunta for our DC spot.
Dude did wonders w/ his secondary after losing so many players to injury.
The G-Men still manage to rank 4th in pass D.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
YA,
the draft is a crapshoot. a 2nd & 3rd rounder could net us another Mike Mitchell & Mario Henderson
we know what we have in DMAC and there are plenty of Raider fans still enamored with DMac’s “potential”
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Good call, DMAC. Does he have clout?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Good call, DMAC. Does he have clout?
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I’ll be honest w/ you.
I don’t know what the hell clout means.
lol
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
DMAC,
interesting choice!
Giunta served as defensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams from 1998–2000
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:36 am
part-time DMAC > Full-time Bush
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Banana,
Rob Ryan definately had clout!
…or was that gout?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
YA,
the draft is a crapshoot. a 2nd & 3rd rounder could net us another Mike Mitchell & Mario Henderson
we know what we have in DMAC and there are plenty of Raider fans still enamored with DMac’s “potential”
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The draft is how you build a team. Sticking with an oft-injured RB whose salary outweighs his production is not.
I’d rather take a chance on improving other, more important parts of the roster than take a chance that DMac will ever be healthy when it counts.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
Permission granted or denied to interview Whitt Jr. ???
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If nothing’s been said publicly, I would assume permission’s been granted, but who knows?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
LOL
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
LOL
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Give me some context clues.
lol
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 am
577.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Banana,
Rob Ryan definately had clout!
…or was that gout?
I was the GUT!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 am
I’d rather take a chance on improving other, more important parts of the roster than take a chance that DMac will ever be healthy when it counts.
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We finally just got rid of the bum S&C coach, and brought in a world class strength coach and NOW you wanna give up on DMAC. If the guy stays healthy he will lead the NFL in rushing and yards from scrimmage.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
OK
Here’s my prediction.
After Sundays Giants win, Allen will get on the phone and contact Peter Giunta for our DC position.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Give me some context clues.
lol
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RaiderDuck was kind enough to explain that assistant coaches with any clout will have language written into their contracts allowing them to leave. Those without clout get sh1tty contracts where the team has all the power and can deny access.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:44 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Give me some context clues.
lol
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RaiderDuck was kind enough to explain that assistant coaches with any clout will have language written into their contracts allowing them to leave. Those without clout get sh1tty contracts where the team has all the power and can deny access.
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OH!
Gotcha!
I think if the G-Men win, they’ll give him permission to interview anyway.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:44 am
clout=power
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:44 am
DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Can you guys imagine LT in a silver and black uni.
Puuuuuuuke!
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Something tells me if Al were still around we would have him for at least 1 year.
LT=washed up
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
GOT CLOUT?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
i say give DMAC a year under the new S&C coach and see what happens.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
HairyBush Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:44 am
DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Can you guys imagine LT in a silver and black uni.
Puuuuuuuke!
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Something tells me if Al were still around we would have him for at least 1 year.
LT=washed up
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With Al still around.
Yes he would have.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
and gave him wayyy to much money.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
DMAC will be back!
Wouldn’t trade him for drafts picks.
You never know what you’ll be getting w/ picks.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
Raccoon,
Who is Myers?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
I have visions of Brandon Jacobs coming in and serving in the Tyrone Wheatley mold of yesteryear.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
We finally just got rid of the bum S&C coach, and brought in a world class strength coach and NOW you wanna give up on DMAC. If the guy stays healthy he will lead the NFL in rushing and yards from scrimmage.
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I couldn’t care less about McFadden’s potential individual achievements if he ever manages to stay healthy.
The Raiders need to be under the salary cap if they want to improve THE TEAM. The Raiders need more draft choices if they want to improve THE TEAM.
It’s a team game. Which is why teams that have been built around the skills of one running back haven’t sniffed the playoffs in over a decade.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
clout/klout/
Noun:
A heavy blow with the hand or a hard object.
So I guess the Cable guy has a little clout in him, right?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Rob Ryan definately had clout!
…or was that gout?
I was the GUT!
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Remember when R. Ryan donated his hair to the children’s hospital to make a wig for cancer victims?
Thought it was a really nice story, but they don’t tell the child who received the hair where it came from do they?
“Little girl your wig was made from the hair from that man….”
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
http://www.sportsmd.com/SportsMD_Articles/id/283/n/what_is_a_lisfranc_injury.aspx
Excerpt:
Stable Lisfranc injuries that do not require surgery may cause an athlete to miss 2 months or more of their season. However, most athletes are able to successfully return at some point. Those injuries that are unstable, and require surgical repair, are serious injuries that almost always cause the injured athlete to miss the remainder of their season. It is also not uncommon for a high level athlete to not be able to return to the same level of athletic performance even in following seasons. Two well-known examples are Eric Rhett and Duce Staley both of whom had surgery for a serious Lisfranc injury and never successfully returned to their pre-injury form.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
LT = Raider Hater!!
Never in Silver & Black
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
Raccoon,
Who is Myers?
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C’mon O!
You never heard of Michael Myers?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
LOL DMAC. Is he going to stab & slash ?
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
LOL DMAC. Is he going to stab & slash ?
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He can stab fat ass Kelly in his titties.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Satele will stick at C. He excels out in space. I look forward to seeing him do it more often next year because he really looked overwhelmed on power running plays, especially in the red zone.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
Or is it Slash & Stab in the ZBS?!
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
TE Brandon Myers = Michael Myers son ???
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
TK is a Good DL IMO. Not his fault we don’t have a solid NT.
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
TE Brandon Myers = Michael Myers son ???
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lol
foster son
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
TK is a Good DL IMO. Not his fault we don’t have a solid NT.
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Maybe w/ a NT, but him and D!ck Seymour def. ain’t getting it done!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
If you people want to trade a WR, then trade Murphy.
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Agreedwith this. And Maybe Ford as well. He was another guy who didn’t see the field much. Like to see us cut housh, who has nothing left, and sign a top notch veteran WR. Schillens can hang for one more year. we also need to develop our young TE’s. That was a problem area lat year because we had to keep them in to block so much.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
Seymour, TK, and Houston should play the same position. UT!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
Seymour, TK, and Houston should play the same position. UT!
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I actually think Houston is stout against the run.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:09 am
He has no pass rush tho
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:14 am
Didn’t you know R Seymour is a perennial pro bowler and STUD! If you dont know ask Seymour Bush Glenn 666 she will tell you!
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DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Maybe w/ a NT, but him and D!ck Seymour def. ain’t getting it done!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hard to analyze Houston because he is not playing his natural position.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hard to analyze Houston because he is not playing his natural position.
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Don’t get me wrong. I’m a huge fan of Houston. Loves his high motor.Would like to see him in the middle.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hard to analyze Houston because he is not playing his natural position.
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If we maintain a 4-3, Houston should take Seymour’s spot at 3-technique DT. Seymour should either be a part-time player on passing downs, or gone.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
RaiderDuck Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hard to analyze Houston because he is not playing his natural position.
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If we maintain a 4-3, Houston should take Seymour’s spot at 3-technique DT. Seymour should either be a part-time player on passing downs, or gone.
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What about Seymour on the edge?
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
Sorry YA. I respect your opinion, but you just wont get me to agree with trading McFadden.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Brian Billick had some good things to say on 95.7 today in regard to Knapp and how hes a ZBS and WC OC coming to coach where the star running back is better in a power scheme and the QB isn’t a rollout WC type of guy, He made it sound simple, he said if your coaching a RB thats better in a power scheme, well you better run more power scheme, If your QB is more of a pocket guy don’t make him rollout. simple, huh
OK, this is the part I hope he is right about. He also said Knapp is smart enough to know he has to play to the strength of his players. I hope Knapp has become smarter since the last time he was here and has learned some things, like don’t force the ZBS on DMC. Pretty simple right, lets hope so
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I posted this last night, now after doing more research and reading tweets from John Clayton, I am convinced Knapp will force his schemes on our players, To be honest he sounds like a guy who is to set in is ways, hes just not creative enough to think outside the box, with that said I expect big changes to come on offense, regarding personal and such, almost a complete overhaul. I myself strongly disagree if this is the route he takes, he needs to scheme to our players stengths, thats what good creative OCs do period.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
That was a good draft:
McClain
Houston
Veldheer
Ford
Campbell
Great Draft!!!!
RIP Mr. Davis.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
DMAC,
I rather have Dez and Matt outside and Wimbkey in passing situations.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
515.Deja vu Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
2012 Free Agent RB’s
R. Rice 25
A. Foster 26
Forte 26
M. Lynch 26
M. Bush 28
P. Hillis 26
Tolbert 26
K. Smith 25
R. Grant 29
K. Bell 25
T. Hightower 26
C. Benson 29
BenJarvus Green-Ellis 27
Steve Slaton 26
Justin Forsett 26
LaRod Stephens-Howling 25
Tashard Choice 27
Jason Snelling 28
LaDainian Tomlinson 33
Cadillac Williams 30
Mewelde Moore 30
Kregg Lumpkin 28
Jackie Battle 28
Ronnie Brown 30
Maurice Morris 32
Jerious Norwood 29
Thomas Jones 34
Sammy Morris 35
Rock Cartwright 32
Lorenzo Booker 28
Derrick Ward 32
Chester Taylor 32
Jerome Harrison 29
Kevin Faulk 36
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i like to a least two of these guys on the roster next year of the guys we can have at the right price
ronnie brown
mike tolbert
steve slaton
tashard choice
jackie battle
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Brian Billick said Knapp is smart enough to know he has to play to the strength of his players
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the rest of that is just trash. Knapp was play caller for ZERO games in 2007 and FOUR games in 2008!
McFadden was a ROOKIE in 2008 with an injured shoulder and turf toe on both feet. The only reason Kiffin & Cable gave any carries to Justin Fargas in 2008 was due to the fact he rushed for 1,009 yards on 222 carries and four touchdowns in 2007 and Al Davis gave him a 3-year $14 million contract!
JaMarcus Russell was QB for all 4 games Knapp was play caller and we won 1 of the 4. What did you friggin expect?
you people are driving me crazy with your ignorance. Blaming Greg Knapp for the Raiders lack of offense in 2007 & 2008 = go stick your d1ck in a blender
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Tashard Choice and Steve Slaton are both garbage at this point.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
RaiderDuck Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hard to analyze Houston because he is not playing his natural position.
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If we maintain a 4-3, Houston should take Seymour’s spot at 3-technique DT. Seymour should either be a part-time player on passing downs, or gone.
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What about Seymour on the edge?
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As a part-time player, sure. The biggest problem is that Seymour’s simply not able to play full-out for 60 snaps a game anymore. 20-30 snaps would be better.
Of course, $15 mil (with 1/2 of that guaranteed) for this upcoming season is a LOT to pay for a part-time player, but the guy who made that contract is gone, so no sense lamenting it.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
Seymour takes too many plays off. He needs to play less snaps or rotate with Houston.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 am
knapp is not creative. Not sure why some of you on here think he will up and change his ways. Like doing what it takes to win a super bowl. Which means being a pass first team not a run heavy team which is his oc style and always has been. Its like thinking mike leach or june jones would run a run heavy offesnse. Lol
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 am
Lamarr Houston has been great in short yardage situations.
Suprisingly, with our horrendous run D, we have actually been pretty good in goalline and 3rd/4th and 1 plays.
And usually, Houston is right there, doing his weird Hulk Hogan celebration.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
I guess there won’t be anything newsworthy til after the Super Bowl…maybe McKenzie and Allen are looking at the Giants and Patsies coaching staff!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
I guess there won’t be anything newsworthy til after the Super Bowl…maybe McKenzie and Allen are looking at the Giants and Patsies coaching staff!
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Peter Giunta
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Since there was such uproar after we were suppoedly looking at the Packers (31st ranked D) defensive guys, should we be upset if we look at the Giants (29th ranked) or Pats (32nd ranked) defensive guys?
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Maybe we can pull an Andy Reid, and move Bob Wylie to DC
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 am
Lamarr Houston has been great in short yardage situations.
Suprisingly, with our horrendous run D, we have actually been pretty good in goalline and 3rd/4th and 1 plays.
And usually, Houston is right there, doing his weird Hulk Hogan celebration.
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Jersey sold!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
knapp is not creative. Not sure why some of you on here think he will up and change his ways. Like doing what it takes to win a super bowl. Which means being a pass first team not a run heavy team which is his oc style and always has been.
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False. you don’t have to be “pass happy” to make it to the playoffs or the Super Bowl. I debunked that myth earlier – perhaps you didn’t catch it
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Interesting BIO:
Peter Giunta’s coaching resume
1978-1980Swampscott High
1981-1983Penn. State (asst.)
1984-1985Brown (TE/WR coach)
1986-1987Brown (Off. coordinator)
1988-1990Lehigh (TE/WR)
1991-1994Philadelphia Eagles (DB coach)
1995-1996N.Y. Jets (DB coach)
1997St. Louis Rams (DB coach)
1998-2000St. Louis Rams (Def. coordinator)
2001-2005Kansas City Chiefs (DB coach)
2006-presentN.Y. Giants (DB coach)
He was either DB coach or DC on pretty good teams! Say what you want about the Giants 30th ranked D, but they got better down the stretch after players came back from injury!
Good choice DMAC!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
So when do they announce the schedule?
I am thinking we won’t get the week 1 MNF opener, the Carolina game will be a random prime time game, and we will get a Thursday night HOME game for once.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Schedule comes out in April!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Is his name Chuck Breshanan?
Nope? I’ll take him!!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
SCHEDULE USUALY ANNOUNCED IN APRIL..AROUND DRAFT TIME
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
He was either DB coach or DC on pretty good teams! Say what you want about the Giants 30th ranked D, but they got better down the stretch after players came back from injury!
Good choice DMAC!
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His pass D was ranked 4th.
With all the injuries they had in the secondary.
Did a hella of job if you asked me.
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Thank you, thank you, thank you
A home game is on the books for this season.
Maybe wrap around an early season home game, with a Gigantes playoff game.
That is the plan.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I don’t believe the Giants pass D was 4th, at least not this season.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Check out Matt Schaub
http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/careerstats
I think this guy is talented, but Carson Palmer is a better QB.
This guy operates in a ZBS/WCO and puts up some pretty decent numbers. People think run-first offense and assume we wont have ANY passing game. Which is pretty funny if you look at our passing offense the past 2 years under Hue Jackson and see that his fans are the guys making all the claims about us not being able to pass the ball under Knapp. See the results, fellas. spoiler alert!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
642.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Thank you, thank you, thank you
A home game is on the books for this season.
Maybe wrap around an early season home game, with a Gigantes playoff game.
That is the plan.
So you’re saying, 1. that the Giants are making the playoffs, and 2. if will be late September, October?
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
WHERE U AT JFB ?
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Yards per game.
1. Cincinnati Bengals 152.0
2. Houston Texans 182.0
3. New England Patriots 195.0
4. New York Giants 200.7
5. Baltimore Ravens 209.0
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
WHERE U AT JFB ?
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Albuquerque
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
sorry post season stats
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DMAC,
I believe those are postseason rankings, lol.
Giants gave up 255 yards per game, 29th in the league.
With an elite pass-rush.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
U GET A LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE,WE CAN GET CONTACT INFO.I WILL HOOK U UP WITH SOME TIX..
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
So you’re saying, 1. that the Giants are making the playoffs, and 2. if will be late September, October?
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Playoffs?
We are going to the series!!!
And yes, early October I’m thinking.
I have to come watch the great Rolando McClain in person!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
649.DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
sorry post season stats
Well, They did shut down Atlanta, and Green Bay…although something was terribly wrong that day in Green Bay, and having defensive numbers against Alex Smith ain’t really nothing!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Raiders pass offense ranked 11th in yards. 16th in points per game. 15th in completion percentage. 18th in TD’s. 17th in QB Rating
23 INT’s = 5th most in the league
all despite the O-Line only giving up 25 sacks (4th best in the league) and the Raiders having the #7 Rushing offense
was Hue Jackson saddled with JaMarcus Russell? nope
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DMAC,
I believe those are postseason rankings, lol.
Giants gave up 255 yards per game, 29th in the league.
With an elite pass-rush.
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That secondary was depleted w/ injuries.
They’re barely getting players back and it shows on the field.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
652.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
So you’re saying, 1. that the Giants are making the playoffs, and 2. if will be late September, October?
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Playoffs?
We are going to the series!!!
And yes, early October I’m thinking.
I have to come watch the great Rolando McClain in person!!!
Would be good to meet you…I hope the schedule has us playing a good team when you come!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
U GET A LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE,WE CAN GET CONTACT INFO.I WILL HOOK U UP WITH SOME TIX..
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I’m on that.
My buddies tailgate in the RV section.
Thoughts? They seem to think it is great.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Tailgated there once because my friend picked everyone up in the RV…I believe that was in 2006…
Anyways, what I do like about it is the room and the bathroom line is never long…maybe because everyone is using the RV???
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
However, you gotta be with the crazies in D and A!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 am
Running backs don’t get teams into the playoffs any more.
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Mav,
Foster, Rice & McGahee didn’t get the Texans, Ravens & Donkeys into the playoffs?
Cincy & Pitt don’t need Benson or Mendenhall?
Where would the 49ers be without Frank Gore?
Bradshaw isn’t needed in New York?
Turner isn’t needed in Atlanta?
not everybody is the Patriots, Saints, Packers & Lions!
not every team has a QB like Brady, Brees, Rodgers or Stafford either
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I’m not saying a RB isn’t needed. But out of the top 10 RBs in the league, only 2 or 3 made the playoffs. Out of the top 10 running teams only 4 made the playoffs. All I’m saying is that it’s way way less important these days than say 10 years ago.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Would be good to meet you…I hope the schedule has us playing a good team when you come!
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I can’t believe I haven’t seen a home game since the day Randy Moss got hurt against SD.
That was like 7 years ago!!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
the rest of that is just trash. Knapp was play caller for ZERO games in 2007 and FOUR games in 2008!
McFadden was a ROOKIE in 2008 with an injured shoulder and turf toe on both feet. The only reason Kiffin & Cable gave any carries to Justin Fargas in 2008 was due to the fact he rushed for 1,009 yards on 222 carries and four touchdowns in 2007 and Al Davis gave him a 3-year $14 million contract!
JaMarcus Russell was QB for all 4 games Knapp was play caller and we won 1 of the 4. What did you friggin expect?
you people are driving me crazy with your ignorance. Blaming Greg Knapp for the Raiders lack of offense in 2007 & 2008 = go stick your d1ck in a blender
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Hey man Im just repeating what I have heard from experts, John Clayton, Brian Billick, Sorry you can’t handle an honest opinion and have to resort to telling me to stick my dick in a blender.
I obviously hit a nerve with you, perhaps you are a lttle worried I am right. I really hope he is more creative than what everybody thinks, OK? Can I say that?
In regard to him not calling plays here, I could care less, Its his overall performance and philosphy every where hes ben is what Im skeptical of, and thats my right man. I stated I hope he has learned from his mistakes, so don’t get it twisted Im on board with What Allen is doing, I believe Allen is smart and creative enough not to let Knapp Fk up a good thing just because he is stuck in his ways.
You have your opinion I have mine, its a blog theres going to be different opinions, Can you deal with it?
Im not going to end this with calling you a name are telling you to stick your dick in a blender, Thats not how I roll, I fk people up for real in real life not on a blog, no thats not a threat, I just find it odd to act like a tough guy on a blog when all people can do is just get more pssed.
Go smoke somethin and calm down a lil, relax.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
What’s the section that is closest to the Warriors arena?
That’s where my uncle and all his cop buddies hang out.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Raiders pass offense ranked 11th in yards. 16th in points per game. 15th in completion percentage. 18th in TD’s. 17th in QB Rating
23 INT’s = 5th most in the league
all despite the O-Line only giving up 25 sacks (4th best in the league) and the Raiders having the #7 Rushing offense
was Hue Jackson saddled with JaMarcus Russell? nope
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What Jackson was sattled with was the top 2 WRs injured much of the year and a starting QB who came off the coach literally from retirement in the middle of the year.
I think our O-Line did great (would’ve liked to kept the coaching staff intact for them).
Only one game we had Moore, Ford & DHB on the field at the same time and we had 400+ yards (one of the highest yards total in Raiders History).
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
663.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
What’s the section that is closest to the Warriors arena?
That’s where my uncle and all his cop buddies hang out.
Depends on what side…Hegenberger side or 66th?
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
The crazy schit is we never got to see a full series w/ CP3 and DMAC both on the field.
DMAC did wonders for Campbell.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
realtruraider Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
the rest of that is just trash. Knapp was play caller for ZERO games in 2007 and FOUR games in 2008!
McFadden was a ROOKIE in 2008 with an injured shoulder and turf toe on both feet. The only reason Kiffin & Cable gave any carries to Justin Fargas in 2008 was due to the fact he rushed for 1,009 yards on 222 carries and four touchdowns in 2007 and Al Davis gave him a 3-year $14 million contract!
JaMarcus Russell was QB for all 4 games Knapp was play caller and we won 1 of the 4. What did you friggin expect?
you people are driving me crazy with your ignorance. Blaming Greg Knapp for the Raiders lack of offense in 2007 & 2008 = go stick your d1ck in a blender
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Hey man Im just repeating what I have heard from experts, John Clayton, Brian Billick, Sorry you can’t handle an honest opinion and have to resort to telling me to stick my dick in a blender.
I obviously hit a nerve with you, perhaps you are a lttle worried I am right. I really hope he is more creative than what everybody thinks, OK? Can I say that?
In regard to him not calling plays here, I could care less, Its his overall performance and philosphy every where hes ben is what Im skeptical of, and thats my right man. I stated I hope he has learned from his mistakes, so don’t get it twisted Im on board with What Allen is doing, I believe Allen is smart and creative enough not to let Knapp Fk up a good thing just because he is stuck in his ways.
You have your opinion I have mine, its a blog theres going to be different opinions, Can you deal with it?
Im not going to end this with calling you a name are telling you to stick your dick in a blender, Thats not how I roll, I fk people up for real in real life not on a blog, no thats not a threat, I just find it odd to act like a tough guy on a blog when all people can do is just get more pssed.
Go smoke somethin and calm down a lil, relax.
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Hey before you get all huffed up about this, why don’t you look at how Knapp did in his other two recent Offensive Coordinator gigs.
I don’t think Allen has ANY expereience with the offensive side of the ball either playing or coaching so I don’t think his input will be that great on what Knapp is doing.
And…knapp has really sucked things up recently as OC. Not just in Oakland, but also in Seattle and in Atlanta.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
What’s the section that is closest to the Warriors arena?
That’s where my uncle and all his cop buddies hang out.
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Is you uncle the dude that looks like the Big Boss Man?
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Actually DMAC got hurt the second play of the game against KC…DMAC and CP3 never was on the field at the same time (unless you call sidelines part of the field…lol)
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Wow.
RIP DJ Solomon
A Bay Area Native, the guy was a good mashup DJ and he was the DJ at Warrior home games.
Sad.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
LOL LOL LOL… stick your d1ck in a blender !!!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Check out Matt Schaub
http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/careerstats
I think this guy is talented, but Carson Palmer is a better QB.
This guy operates in a ZBS/WCO and puts up some pretty decent numbers. People think run-first offense and assume we wont have ANY passing game. Which is pretty funny if you look at our passing offense the past 2 years under Hue Jackson and see that his fans are the guys making all the claims about us not being able to pass the ball under Knapp. See the results, fellas. spoiler alert!
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From everything I see of Knapp I do think he’s a very good teacher. Would be a great QB coach or RB coach or probably even O-Line coach. He is a good teacher. What I don’t think he is is a good schemer, or deviser of plays, or creative use of the weapons at hand.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Here were the Top 10 highest paid RB’s of 2011
1. Jamaal Charles
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Darren McFadden
5. Maurice Jones-Drew
6. Michael Turner
7. Frank Gore
8. Brandon Jacobs
9. Chris Johnson
10. Cedric Benson
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Mav,
Charles missed the entire year. McFadden missed half the year
Benson, Peterson & MJD had rookie QB’s
the rest of those runners made the playoffs
Steven Jackson is the only guy I don’t have an excuse for, lol! … but he did carry the Rams to one game from clinching the NFC West last year with a rookie QB
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
LOL LOL LOL… stick your d1ck in a blender !!!
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The new Jamba Juice?
I’m never going back to that place.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Is you uncle the dude that looks like the Big Boss Man?
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More like Tom Selleck, lol, with the stache.
Hwnrdr,
Hegenberger, that’s the south part right?
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
???Jamba Juice ???
must be a west coast thing.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
knapp is not creative. Not sure why some of you on here think he will up and change his ways. Like doing what it takes to win a super bowl. Which means being a pass first team not a run heavy team which is his oc style and always has been.
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False. you don’t have to be “pass happy” to make it to the playoffs or the Super Bowl. I debunked that myth earlier – perhaps you didn’t catch it
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No, I didn’t catch that. Maybe you don’t have to be “pass happy” but 8 out of the top 10 passing teams made the playoffs. Shows that the best of the “pass happy” teams are making it.
And 4 out of the top 10 “rushing teams” made the playoffs. So over half of the “rush happy” teams did NOT make it.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
A full season of CP3 at the helm, with Ford, DHB, Moore, and DMac healthy would put this offense in the GB/NE/NO realm.
It would be scary good.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
???Jamba Juice ???
must be a west coast thing.
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Fruit Smoothies
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
DMAC Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
LOL LOL LOL… stick your d1ck in a blender !!!
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The new Jamba Juice?
I’m never going back to that place.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
What is the story?
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
673.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Here were the Top 10 highest paid RB’s of 2011
1. Jamaal Charles
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Darren McFadden
5. Maurice Jones-Drew
6. Michael Turner
7. Frank Gore
8. Brandon Jacobs
9. Chris Johnson
10. Cedric Benson
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Mav,
Charles missed the entire year. McFadden missed half the year
Benson, Peterson & MJD had rookie QB’s
the rest of those runners made the playoffs
Steven Jackson is the only guy I don’t have an excuse for, lol! … but he did carry the Rams to one game from clinching the NFC West last year with a rookie QB
^^^^^^^
All of those RB’s have been hurt on and off in their career except for Chris Johnson really.
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I believe so because Hegenberger is an exit away from 66th heading South on 880!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
New post
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Put it this way…when we tailgate in D Lot, we’re usually looking at the North Entrance of Oracle!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Gregg Knapp is mediocre or slightly below mediocre OC and play caller….until proven otherwise!
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
In regard to him not calling plays here, I could care less, Its his overall performance and philosphy every where hes ben is what Im skeptical of, and thats my right man. I stated I hope he has learned from his mistakes, so don’t get it twisted Im on board with What Allen is doing, I believe Allen is smart and creative enough not to let Knapp Fk up a good thing just because he is stuck in his ways.
You have your opinion I have mine, its a blog theres going to be different opinions, Can you deal with it?
***
Tru,
fair enough, but don’t quote Billick’s one line and follow it with a bunch of your opinions and pretend like he said it
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
got ya. dont have them here.. all we have is drive up liquor stores !! dont even have to get out of the car to get your cold beer, hard liquor , or mixed drink. (but they wont mix it for you any more, they just give you the mixer, a cup of ice and the miniture bottle of liquor).
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
O,
post 667
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
got ya. dont have them here.. all we have is drive up liquor stores !! dont even have to get out of the car to get your cold beer, hard liquor , or mixed drink. (but they wont mix it for you any more, they just give you the mixer, a cup of ice and the miniture bottle of liquor).
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Swear?
Drive up Liquor?
I need to open one of those in East Oakland. (my town)
I can make a killing!
Where you at?
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
realtruraider Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Brian Billick had some good things to say on 95.7 today in regard to Knapp and how hes a ZBS and WC OC coming to coach where the star running back is better in a power scheme and the QB isn’t a rollout WC type of guy, He made it sound simple, he said if your coaching a RB thats better in a power scheme, well you better run more power scheme, If your QB is more of a pocket guy don’t make him rollout. simple, huh
OK, this is the part I hope he is right about. He also said Knapp is smart enough to know he has to play to the strength of his players. I hope Knapp has become smarter since the last time he was here and has learned some things, like don’t force the ZBS on DMC. Pretty simple right, lets hope so
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I posted this last night, now after doing more research and reading tweets from John Clayton, I am convinced Knapp will force his schemes on our players, To be honest he sounds like a guy who is to set in is ways, hes just not creative enough to think outside the box, with that said I expect big changes to come on offense, regarding personal and such, almost a complete overhaul. I myself strongly disagree if this is the route he takes, he needs to scheme to our players stengths, thats what good creative OCs do period.
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This is exactly what I am worried about. He seemed to try the exact same thing year after year despite having totally different QBs (he had Vick in Atlanta for god sakes and tried to make him a pocket passer only).
February 3rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-Name-Hoffman-Special-Teams-Coordinator/6d4d0a41-5a93-4046-b9da-1ea4fbd1b80e
Who?
February 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Raider O Says:
February 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
If you people want to trade a WR, then trade Murphy.
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Agreedwith this. And Maybe Ford as well. He was another guy who didn’t see the field much. Like to see us cut housh, who has nothing left, and sign a top notch veteran WR. Schillens can hang for one more year. we also need to develop our young TE’s. That was a problem area lat year because we had to keep them in to block so much.
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Schilens is a FA and will be gone. Murphy never returned to 100% after his injury. He still might bring a 6th round pick. Ford needs to stay. He’s our future PR & possible KOR in addition to his WR duties.
#1 WR – Open
#2 WR – Ford
#3 WR – D-WOW
#4 WR – DHB
#5 WR – TJones – From RB to run the slot
#6 WR – Ausberry – From TE
I’d like to see us get DeSean Jackson in FA as our #1 WR position. He’s a definite play-maker and wants out of Phi.
I’d also like to see us pick up Marshawn Lynch from FA. Bush who now makes $2M will be gone. Marshawn now makes $1M. We should be able to get him for $2-$2.5M per year.
#1 RB – DMac
#2 RB – Lynch
#3 RB/KOR – TJones
#4 RB/ST – Cartwright
February 3rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
@RUSSLANDE Russell Lande
@RAIDERS – OAK makes grt hire as Hoffman is an elite special teams coach. KC made huge mistake getting rid of person who found PK R. Succop.
February 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Check out Matt Schaub
http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/careerstats
I think this guy is talented, but Carson Palmer is a better QB.
This guy operates in a ZBS/WCO and puts up some pretty decent numbers. People think run-first offense and assume we wont have ANY passing game. Which is pretty funny if you look at our passing offense the past 2 years under Hue Jackson and see that his fans are the guys making all the claims about us not being able to pass the ball under Knapp. See the results, fellas. spoiler alert!
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Schaub has always been a WCO system QB, even in college. I think Matt Flynn will be simuliarly successful as long as he stays in a WCO.
Palmer on the other hand hasnt been a WCO QB and that’s the concern. McKenzie said he thinks Palmer can make the transition and be a good WCO QB. It remains to be seen. He’s not going to walk right into it like Schaub or Flynn. He’s going to have to learn it.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:16 am
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February 10th, 2012 at 1:32 am
Andy Griffith added to staff
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February 10th, 2012 at 1:32 am
Fife hired as assistant jock strap snaffer. Yes snaff
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February 10th, 2012 at 1:33 am
698.
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February 10th, 2012 at 1:34 am
699. bi-ches
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February 10th, 2012 at 1:35 am
with the sizzle
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