Stanford’s Tarver on Raiders’ radar?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, February 4th, 2012 at 2:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver is under consideration to be the defensive coordinator of the Raiders, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
Tarver coached on the 49ers staff from 2001 through 20010, working as an offensive quality control coach from 2001-03, assistant running backs coach in 2004 and outside linebackers from 2005 through 2010.
He joined David Shaw’s staff in 2011 to work as co-defensive coordinator and linebackers, replacing Vic Fangio, who joined Jim Harbaugh with the 49ers.
Tarver, 37, attended Foothill High in Pleasanton and also played at West Valley College after Santa Clara cut it football program in 1994-95.
It’s been slow going for the Raiders in their search to find a replacement for Chuck Bresnahan. Oakland reportedly interviewed Greg Manusky, to accepted the defensive coordinator position with the Indianapolis Colts. They have reportedly been denied permission to talk with Bill Johnson of New Orleans and Richard Smith of Denver. Other names that have surfaced include Green Bay cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt Jr. and 49ers secondary coach Ed Donatell, although it’s not known if either man has actually interviewed or has been given permission to be interviewed.
Coaches under contract can be denied permission to interview if under contract except in the case of a head coaching position.
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Dickinson is now tweeting that Tarver’s on staff.
How reliable is this guy???
February 4th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Per Twitter, Tim Brown is saying that neither he nor any WRs got in to the HoF this year.
HoF voters are ignorant boogerheads.
February 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
As long as its not Chucky B im happy. His defensive calls were horrible
February 4th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jason_Tarver
This guy wouldn’t be terrible. Probably better than Manusky.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Not too worried about our DC.
DA will be mentoring whoever comes in so it makes sense it’s someone like Tarver.
We all need to stop worrying, trust Reggie and judge this team on W’s and L’s.
Everyone here thinks they could be a GM, Lol…
February 4th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Doing taxes
February 4th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
277.RaiderDuck Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Per Twitter, Tim Brown is saying that neither he nor any WRs got in to the HoF this year.
HoF voters are ignorant boogerheads.
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Until Cliff Branch, Ray Guy and Tom Flores are there the Hall of Fame does not exist for me.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@JDJohnDickinson John Dickinson
Footballscoop.com reporting sources say Stanford DC Jason Tarver has agreed to be #Raiders DC. No confirmation from Raiders organization
February 4th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
270-previous thread-no foolish one.Pete told the Coliseum board they didn’t have to negotiate with Davis because he couldn’t move.Once they were told this they gave Davis a take it or leave it proposition.The rest is history.You should try and learn it.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Stanford’s D was 5th in the country in run defense this year, behind Alabama, LSU, Florida State and UConn. Not too shabby.
They were primarily a 3-4 team.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Yup, seems to be a done deal:
https://twitter.com/#!/footballscoop…29622209429506
Sources telling us Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has accepted the defensive coordinator job w the Raiders
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Another reach choice huh?
Gotta hope the guy isn’t as bad Chuck B was.
HOPE is the key word. Ugh
February 4th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/28/SPH01LAOMK.DTL
Jason Tarver bio. Look like Allen and Reggie have themselves a real up-and-comer.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
A young, bright DC to go with our young, bright defensive-minded HC.
Somehow I suspect we’ve seen the last of the Al Davis Plain Vanilla Specials.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I sure do know about investing.
It’s about paying as little as possible and then generating a long term steady return and payout.
As an investor, I look at the Raiders as a franchise that already has a rich tradition and does well with merchandising, and has all the potential in the world to increase their value, net worth and revenue…ESPCIALLY now that the stubborn, delusional owner old man Al is not running things anymore.
The key with turning a profit quickly with these new stadiums is getting to a host a Super Bowl withinn 5 years of that new stadium going up.
Especially with the NFL handing out a 200 million loan to any new stadium being built.
They want a Super Bowl in that city/stadium as quickly as possible, so they can get that $200 million investment back!
February 4th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Like I said, when you building a staff in today’s NFL, you have to take from the underqualified, unemployed, or from the college ranks, due to teams able to just deny you accesss to the more qualified.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Out of all the college teams and all DC’s in college they go after this guy. Geez, REACH!
February 4th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
15.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Like I said, when you building a staff in today’s NFL, you have to take from the underqualified, unemployed, or from the college ranks, due to teams able to just deny you accesss to the more qualified.
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If he and Allen can have anything approaching Stanford’s performance stopping the run, then it’s a spectacular hire. Top five in the country, despite losing key players from your defense to the NFL and graduation, is VERY impressive. He also has nine years of NFL experience, with five of those as the Niners’ outside linebackers coach. Apparently Harbaugh would have kept him on but he decided to take the job at Stanford instead.
I like this hire a lot.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Everyone at this point would have been a reach…Stanford has quietly become a power house in the NCAA! If this is true, then hey…a reach is also better than a retread in my opinion!
February 4th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Stanford’s D was 5th in the country in run defense this year, behind Alabama, LSU, Florida State and UConn. Not too shabby.
They were primarily a 3-4 team.
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Tackling is a beautiful thing.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Although you and Jerry were scooped. (As, per usual.) At least you reported the news while it was still luke warm.
Reward yourself with a can of Keystone Light, Steve…
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Here some of you go again with the old way of thinking. “Stop the run”. Great, if have have not noticed this is a passing league. Nice try over hyping this guy. It’s a reach.
I guess it may not matter he will probably be Allen’s “yes man”
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
interesting hire, sounds like he’s a really smart dude, similar to Allen in a couple of ways, lets hope theses two skinny whiteboys can demand the respect they will need from our players to turn this Defense around.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
At least we’ll have the only NFL coach with a Master’s degree in Bio-chemistry and molecular biology….can’t get much brighter than that, hope it translates to his scheming.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RaidO, yes I agree…it’s a passing league, but teams have been gashing us on the run for years now…I will take a good run defense and forcing the pass!
February 4th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
At least we won’t be playing a regular season game and have Collinsworth say, “The Raiders defensive sets…they look like what most other teams run in the first week of training camp, before they really install anything.”
February 4th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Wow, we gonna have an all Rookie staff. Good thing we have Knapp to blame our 6-10 record on, then fire his lame for it.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
HEY HWNRDR.HOW’S UR WEEKEND GOING ?
February 4th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Tackling is a beautiful thing.
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What a concept!
That should be the new sign above the door for the defence’s meeting room…
February 4th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Wow, we gonna have an all Rookie staff. Good thing we have Knapp to blame our 6-10 record on, then fire his lame for it.
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lol
February 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
21.RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Here some of you go again with the old way of thinking. “Stop the run”. Great, if have have not noticed this is a passing league. Nice try over hyping this guy. It’s a reach.
I guess it may not matter he will probably be Allen’s “yes man”
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What a completely uninformed statement to make. Ten of the top twelve teams in rush defense in the NFL made the playoffs this year, and two of them are in the Super Bowl.
Please.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Hey Dirt Lot! Good so far! Started it off when a few drinks and friends over! Getting ready for tomorrow!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Does anybody know if he called the plays on Defense, I see it says co-defensive coordinator.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
I’d be happy with some no name high school coach as DC rather than Donut Neck Bresnahan. Sounds like the Hall Of Shame is continuing its Raiders hating ways. Oh well I think we all saw it coming.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Here’s a link for you, RaidO, just in case you’d like to actually read about something before forming an opinion;
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2011&seasonType=POST&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
February 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Anyone that is predicting a negative season is a troll and knows nothing about this Team,
We are In a Division that is bad with no Juggernaut to worry about.
CP3 will have an offseason to get better and whetherDmac is back, our run game will get better too.
We hired a Defensive HC to fix the unit that has plagued this franchise for years!!
Get out of here with your negative crap, we have a Normal, Modern NFL franchise and sky is the limit!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
21.RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Here some of you go again with the old way of thinking. “Stop the run”. Great, if have have not noticed this is a passing league. Nice try over hyping this guy. It’s a reach.
I guess it may not matter he will probably be Allen’s “yes man”
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What a completely uninformed statement to make. Ten of the top twelve teams in rush defense in the NFL made the playoffs this year, and two of them are in the Super Bowl.
Please.
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WRONG:
New England Patriots ranked 17th in rushing D
New York Giants 19th
next
February 4th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RUN & STOP THE RUN.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Pass, stop the pass, intercept the pass, and get to the passer!!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
You know, Indianapolis had the worst run D a few years ago when they entered the playoffs! Suddenly, they stopped everyone cold in there tracks en route to winning the SuperBowl! Both NE and The Giants have been able to stop the run much better towards the back half of the season and in the Playoffs!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Also, with an average O, the Niners had the #1 Rush D, allowing no one to rush for a 100 yards and only 3 rushing touch downs in a year! And that was the last 2 games of the year that happened! They were one fumble away from playing tomorrow…and gawd, I hate the Niners!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
If you can’t stop the run, good QBs will make you pay with the play action pass.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
JUST MAY TAKE A REAL GOOD ALL-AROUND TEAM TO GO TO THE BIG GAME.ALLSO DONT HURT TO BE HOT LATE..
February 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
NE put a stop to the #1 running team, the donkeys and they put the clamps on Ray Rice
the giants shut down atllants and SF’s running offense.
Stopping the run is still important to do to win in the playoffs.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Meanwhile, I see Belichick just cut some backup WR. The day before the Super Bowl. Is this guy cold or what???
February 4th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
21.RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Here some of you go again with the old way of thinking. “Stop the run”. Great, if have have not noticed this is a passing league. Nice try over hyping this guy. It’s a reach.
I guess it may not matter he will probably be Allen’s “yes man”
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What a completely uninformed statement to make. Ten of the top twelve teams in rush defense in the NFL made the playoffs this year, and two of them are in the Super Bowl.
Please.
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Agreed. Allen comes FROM the Defensive Secondary, so of course stopping the pass is going to be a staple of this defense.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
The Giants to me are the best all around team playing tomorrow.
Giants-24
Cheatriots: 20
February 4th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
I dont know about all you guys but Im excited about everything all the youth even all the dead weight thats been playing for teh raiders. This is more fun everyday and a dream for year. I dont know about the west coast offense and knapp like everyone else but I love the young defensive minds. Years ago I was so excited about three coached that were being interviewed and we gave it to gruden instead of belicheck. So I have my defensive minded coach lets go. Keep doing reggie and dennis.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
44.RaiderDuck Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Meanwhile, I see Belichick just cut some backup WR. The day before the Super Bowl. Is this guy cold or what???
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I actully thought he might cut Ocho
February 4th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
21.RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Here some of you go again with the old way of thinking. “Stop the run”. Great, if have have not noticed this is a passing league. Nice try over hyping this guy. It’s a reach.
I guess it may not matter he will probably be Allen’s “yes man”
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What a completely uninformed statement to make. Ten of the top twelve teams in rush defense in the NFL made the playoffs this year, and two of them are in the Super Bowl.
Please.
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WRONG:
New England Patriots ranked 17th in rushing D
New York Giants 19th
next
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LET THE GODDAMN SEASON BEGIN THEN MAKE STATEMENTS! Jesus f’n Christ!
chicken little’s all over the place.
ITS DONE. Let it go
next…..
February 4th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
AGREE QUE..
February 4th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Anyways, if you look at all the teams in the NFL and ALL the stats offensive and defensive the most important thing in having a super bowl caliber team in “Todays NFL” is a potent passing attack. Pass first.
Then the Raiders go and hire a run first run heavy OC.
Great
February 4th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
realtruraider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
interesting hire, sounds like he’s a really smart dude, similar to Allen in a couple of ways, lets hope theses two skinny whiteboys can demand the respect they will need from our players to turn this Defense around.
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I was a doorman at a bar that catered to the local College crowd 20+ years ago..
Always kept an eye on the “skinny whiteboys”. They were more likely to try and start something, and didn’t give a ufck if they’re night was going to end badly…
February 4th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
realtruraider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
interesting hire, sounds like he’s a really smart dude, similar to Allen in a couple of ways, lets hope theses two skinny whiteboys can demand the respect they will need from our players to turn this Defense around.
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I was a doorman at a bar that catered to the local College crowd 20+ years ago..
Always kept an eye on the “skinny whiteboys”. They were more likely to try and start something, and didn’t give a ufck if they’re night was going to end badly…
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Was one of them Lane Kiffin?
February 4th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Tarver graduated with a degree in biochemistry. No dummy. Hopefully some of those brain cells translate over to defensive football.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
909, hahaha, That is true
February 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Knapp had to run the ball when he was here, also in Houston when there QB’s got hurt, and in Seattle cuz Hasslbeck was hurt that year.
Stop whining, we will be balanced but he has Arguably the best QB he has ever worked with AND our young, fast WR’s.
We will be jacking the ball inthe air plenty….
February 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Anyways, if you look at all the teams in the NFL and ALL the stats offensive and defensive the most important thing in having a super bowl caliber team in “Todays NFL” is a potent passing attack. Pass first.
Then the Raiders go and hire a run first run heavy OC.
Great
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Yeah, the Knapp hire has me concerned , too.
Anyway to put the toothpaste back in the tube?
Make someone “unpregnant”?
I mean, the OC is set, ZBS is comin back (or a modified version of it)
Maybe Palmer revolts and says I’m playing to win and throwing no matter what the WCO dictates.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Anyways, if you look at all the teams in the NFL and ALL the stats offensive and defensive the most important thing in having a super bowl caliber team in “Todays NFL” is a potent passing attack. Pass first.
Then the Raiders go and hire a run first run heavy OC.
Great
That is where I scratched my head too! But…let see how this plays out
February 4th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Power running, ZBS who fricking cares?
Passing attack > running attack
Our strength righ now going into the offseason is our O-Line, WR’s, and QB….
February 4th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
What does a quality control coach actually do?
February 4th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Twocents Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
What does a quality control coach actually do?
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Somebody posted a big long article about it a day or two ago. Basically, they break down film from everyone we’re about to play, looking for tendencies. They also run the scout teams during practice.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Twocents Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
What does a quality control coach actually do?
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Accumulate game film, reviews for specific plays, play calling and results and will report back to the offensive or defensive coordinator. Some teams have both offensive and defensive quality control. Some coaches are so hands on, they want to review film, then delegate tasks in meetings to each separate coaching group, then that group will have meetings. (New England) – I remember Lawyer Milloy was talking saying “I’m sick of going to meetings!!” – but the Pats won a lot.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Bottom line, i would like to see the Raiders put together a team to win the Super bowl not just get in the playoffs. So far some of the moves do not point in that direction especially with that “Knapp” hire but we will see.
Yeah it used to be “Defense wins championships”
Now it’s ” A potent passing attack with a mediocre/average defense wins championships”
Seems the Raiders did not get the memo.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
TWOCENTS,THEY ALSO DOCUMENT STATS DURING GAMES KEEPING COACHES & CORDINATORS UPDATED ON WHATS WORKING AND WHAT IS NOT
February 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Thanks Duck. I was going to apply for the job if it was just about pointing out that Ray Lewis was quality and McClain was something less.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Truth is we’d of been in the playoffs with half the semi-pros on this blog calling the defense!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Dirt, Tone it down a little your hurting my ears, LOL!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
*eyes
February 4th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Martin is the fourth-leading rusher in NFL history. He is joined by Chris Doleman, Cortez Kennedy, Willie Roaf, Dermontti Dawson, and senior selection Jack Butler.
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More proof the HOF voting people are a joke!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Knapp had to run the ball when he was here, also in Houston when there QB’s got hurt, and in Seattle cuz Hasslbeck was hurt that year.
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He also had to run the ball a lot in Atlanta because Mike Vick was his QB. Vick has admitted himself that he didn’t care to work on other parts of his game at that time because his athleticism and running ability had gotten him the bulk of the success that he’d had to that point. It wasn’t until he got out of prison with a new appreciation for his life and career that he made the decision to improve himself as an NFL quarterback.
Hard to be “pass-happy” when you’re dealing with Vick’s attitude in Atlanta and Jamarcus’ attitude here. Kinda limits what you’re able to do.
He has a real quarterback now, at least according to Al Saunders. Let’s see what he does before jumping off a cliff.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Twocents Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Thanks Duck. I was going to apply for the job if it was just about pointing out that Ray Lewis was quality and McClain was something less.
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When Gruden did in San Fran 20 years ago, it was $500/month for 18-hour days and ENDLESS film study, but he said he learned a ton.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Yeah, a reach like Tarver at least has some upside compared to a bad retread hire I guess.
I’m not excited at all about Allens coaching staff hires.
Oh well.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Quality Control Coaches study film and opponents weaknesses and are supposed to see what other coaches don’t have time to see during the heat of the moment during the game and offer suggestions during the game to the coordinators or assistant coaches.
Basically, I don’t think the Raiders had a quality control defensive coach last year under Chuck B, if they did, he should be fired and never allowed to be a quality control coach again, just like Chuck B will NEVER be a DC again in the NFL! LOL
February 4th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Thanks guys, I knew I could count on the Nation.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
REALTRURAIDER,MY EYE’S ARE BAD ALSO,CANT HEAR A THING..MEANT NO HARM LOL.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
I am hoping that next week the Giants allow us to interview Herrmann their LB coach for our DC opening.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Wasn’t Big Wiz Offensive Quality Control at Stanford prior to coming here as assistant O-Line?
February 4th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Dirt, Yeah I know, just fk’n wit ya
February 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
So no one knows If Tarver was the defensive playcaller this year at Stanford?
February 4th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
As long as chuck bullsh’t is gone im cool. it wouldnt really metter who are DC is because wont allen call most of the plays? And i hope reggie and allen is looking to bring in a vet CB like finnegan. Allen use to be a secondary coach and would be good for him and also if we are keeping rod will do good. He is a phyiscal hard-nose trash talking sob and that is what are defense is missing. Even thought Andre johnson did kick his @$$
February 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
if i hear one more thing about that Pats TE im goin to Gronk all over my self…..geeez
February 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
It wasn’t Andre Johnson, it was LaGarette Blount I believe!
February 4th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Dennis showed his inexpertise when he publicly stated that he didn’t believe an HC could be an effective HC if he also engaged in a game day role as OC or DC.
he is the de facto DC, knows it and now can’t admit it.
shame.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Hwnrdr,
got any kahunas working on vexing the Belicheats tomorrow?
February 4th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Hwnrdr,
got any kahunas working on vexing the Belicheats tomorrow?
Haha! I wish…they are working on vexing my debt collectors!
February 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Hv1qtkyA0
Video of Tarver
February 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
you da man Hwnrdr. you da man.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
7.edward teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
277.RaiderDuck Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Per Twitter, Tim Brown is saying that neither he nor any WRs got in to the HoF this year.
HoF voters are ignorant boogerheads.
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Until Cliff Branch, Ray Guy and Tom Flores are there the Hall of Fame does not exist for me.
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So Plunkett who won two Superbowls and the great Snake don’t come into it with you?
February 4th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Truth is we’d of been in the playoffs with half the semi-pros on this blog calling the defense!
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Hell, we’d be looking at two SB rings according to some of these bloggers calling the defense.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
7.edward teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
277.RaiderDuck Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Per Twitter, Tim Brown is saying that neither he nor any WRs got in to the HoF this year.
HoF voters are ignorant boogerheads.
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Until Cliff Branch, Ray Guy and Tom Flores are there the Hall of Fame does not exist for me.
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So Plunkett who won two Superbowls and the great Snake don’t come into it with you?
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Stabler’s never getting in. Too many picks and he “held on” too long on bad Houston and New Orleans teams.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
15.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Like I said, when you building a staff in today’s NFL, you have to take from the underqualified, unemployed, or from the college ranks, due to teams able to just deny you accesss to the more qualified.
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True that.
Other head coaches are always going to deny a new head coach access to their assistants.
Can’t say that I think that coaches from the college ranks should be placed in the same category as the “underqualified” or the “unemployed”.
This might just be a good hire.
Either way, Allen needs to have his own hand picked team of assistants.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Have to wait and see how McKenzie’s roster moves shake out this spring/summer. Hopefully he’ll mine a few nuggets for us, while thinning out the malcontents, and check cashers..
I am also going to take a wait and see approach on the new coaching staff. Not going to get my blood pressure in a uproar, just yet. OTA’s are around the corner, and I’m sure Steve and Jerry will give us some unbiased opinion of how they are running the show. After they finish eating the free grub, of course..
Speaking of grub. Getting about time for some homemade fish tacos..
Take care, all..
I got the G-men tomorrow. UFCK the Cheatriots!…
February 4th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
We ALLshould be excited about this coaching staff!!
Any staff put together by anyone Not Named “Al”, R.I.P. can’t do any worse!!
We all, most, have been Screaming for a GM. Also, one that used to play for us!
We won’t really know how Good Reggie, D.A., his staff, until Reggie can pick and draft and sign his “own” players.
This team is not his. He will get his roster, the way he saw it being built in GB. You know that franchise that in last 19 years won 2 SB’s, only had 2 QB’s, stability.
Last 28 years we haven’t won any SB’s.
I guess most of you are used to garbage teams, garbage QB’s, most penalties, etc.
Normal looks foreign to most Raider Fans
February 4th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Twocents Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Thanks Duck. I was going to apply for the job if it was just about pointing out that Ray Lewis was quality and McClain was something less.
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Hilarious!!!!! LMAO!
February 4th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
88.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
7.edward teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
277.RaiderDuck Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Per Twitter, Tim Brown is saying that neither he nor any WRs got in to the HoF this year.
HoF voters are ignorant boogerheads.
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Until Cliff Branch, Ray Guy and Tom Flores are there the Hall of Fame does not exist for me.
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So Plunkett who won two Superbowls and the great Snake don’t come into it with you?
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The Snake is my favorite Raider QB, England. No one else is close. I’m just trying to be realistic, though. He doesn’t have the career stats that would qualify him though, and winning one SB doesn’t matter when to comes to getting into the Hall if you don’t have the career stats to go along with it.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
If you go college go Kirby Smart, Alabama…he is a winner with a big D in Alabama, pro ready from working with that scumbag Saban. More importantly he coached McClain into a first rounder and the Tide D has been rolling in the SEC for a while [5 years] with him as the coordinator.
He wants to be a HC in College but would be a great aggressive addition to the Raiders staff
February 4th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
I like to watch good football teams play, so I will watch the SB until I get tired of the BS. Not rooting for anyone in particular although I usually root for the team that is being screwed by the officials, that comes from years of being a Raider fan.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
303,
the dolphins and the chiefs and the chargers and the bills and the bengals and the browns and the panthers and the jaguars and the jets and the seahawks and the lions and the vikings and the cardinals and the eagles and the texans and the titans etc etc haven’t won in longer.
y’all cam always do worse.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
280.edward teach Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
It’s convenient how some of you forget the cards Hue was dealt before and during the season in his FIRST year as HC.
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What seems to be lost on the remaining Hue supprters in here is that it isn’t only Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie that doesn’t want Hue to be a part of their organization.
It seems that the rest of the league feels the same way. When Ron Wolf said that he knows Hue by reputation only, it seems that the reputation he was referring to was not a good one.
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What’s done is done. Some of the reasons some of these Hue haters come up with Hue on why Hue was fired, just because the team lost 4-5 games is not the reason.
The guy was dealt a bad hand in his first year and he did the most he could.
New owner and CEO didn’t want him around anymore and that what their call. IMO, it was a premature decision and they jumped the gun to quick on him and we gotta hope Allen gets this turned around…or else we can be seeing another 4 years of struggling, when this team was one game away from the playoffs, DESPITE all the adversity Hue had to overcome in his first year.
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ya an he only had to win 2 out of the last five games
an couldn’t get the team to pull it out. That speaks volumes on why he may have Bern canned. Not to mention he ran his mouth to much. Promised everything an delivered boxes with bricks in them = nothing
February 4th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Can’t wait for SamBorg the Star Trek Goober to get worked up and start rambling in Clingon!
So funny when blog virgins get backhanded then meltdown for our enjoyment.
Guess that’s why the Beeech Diggity runs the playground. Holla back, Kool Moe Dee
Yo, countdown on for UFC Pajama Jammy Jam at the penthouse. Got some strippers in the hot tub getting loose on banana daiquiris.
Those are the only bananas in the house not wearing Magnums. Get it, my weiner is ready for sexual intercourse in an XL condom.
TWIZZLE
February 4th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Trends come, trends go; it all comes down to executing on both sides of the ball. The 49′ers were a couple of plays away from being in the Super Bowl. Yes I would have liked for someone else other than Knapp to be our play caller but it is what its is. Love the d.cord hire, can’t wait to see how his coaching translates to our play on the field.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Smart article http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2012/01/07/kirby-smart-says-hes-ready-to-make-jump-to-head-coach/
an excerpt from Jeff Schultz article
Smart officially said no to Georgia on Jan. 11, 2010. Alabama matched the Dogs’ offer ($750,000 annually, which equated to a $390,000 raise). Smart said at the time he “wouldn’t have even considered discussing the [coordinator] position with any other school.”
He would be a great steal from Bama….. I hope RMK and Coach Allen think Smart for a new DC
February 4th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Don’t know what to tell you, DKnight.
If the rest of the league felt the way you do he’d be employed right now.
NFL owners and GMs want to win games, and the NFL is a small fraternity. People in the league know who’s who, and what’s what. I’m inclined to think that if they thought that he could help their team they’d hire him. No one has.
Kinda speaks for itself, don’t you think?
February 4th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Post 100
are u 16yo kid?
Just askin. Or are you tryin to provide entertainment to this blog
February 4th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Chas Malloy Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Smart article http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2012/01/07/kirby-smart-says-hes-ready-to-make-jump-to-head-coach/
an excerpt from Jeff Schultz article
Smart officially said no to Georgia on Jan. 11, 2010. Alabama matched the Dogs’ offer ($750,000 annually, which equated to a $390,000 raise). Smart said at the time he “wouldn’t have even considered discussing the [coordinator] position with any other school.”
He would be a great steal from Bama….. I hope RMK and Coach Allen think Smart for a new DC
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I mentioned this same ideal at the beginning of the week.
Allen should look at Alabama or LSU for a DC.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
How many coaches are left to hire?
Back to taxes.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
The Snake is my favorite Raider QB, England. No one else is close. I’m just trying to be realistic, though. He doesn’t have the career stats that would qualify him though, and winning one SB doesn’t matter when to comes to getting into the Hall if you don’t have the career stats to go along with it.
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You and me both ET.
Stats can be very misleading.
Some players work on those stats.
Snake could never have cared less about stats.
Snake should get into the Hall based just on how many shots of Jack he could down and still stay on the barstool, how many women he could still take home after the bar, and whether he still managed to show up the next day and win the game.
Even then the sob almost always let the opposition catch up with the score because he got bored.
Here’s looking at you Snake.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
R8, it’s probably best if you just keep an eye out for my upcoming hip hop solo album, Wrecks N Effect, taking the swizzle back to the streets.
That is, if you’re into dope rhymes and sick beats by the party school master (me).
Speaking of my huge johnson, just took a shower with a major babe from Spearmint Rhino.
This shorty knows EXACTLY how to operate a bottle of conditioner, trust me.
Hey I’d love to hear what the rest of you blog dorks are up to tonight, could use a good laugh
February 4th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Trends come, trends go; it all comes down to executing on both sides of the ball. The 49′ers were a couple of plays away from being in the Super Bowl. Yes I would have liked for someone else other than Knapp to be our play caller but it is what its is. Love the d.cord hire, can’t wait to see how his coaching translates to our play on the field.
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Yeah the 49ers are a great example. Top 5 defense(4th). Good rushing offense(8th), 29th in passing offense.
No “potent pass attack”= No super bowl
February 4th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Lmao Beech, always providing a good laugh.
Bomba ras clot mon’!
February 4th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Snake should get into the Hall based just on how many shots of Jack he could down and still stay on the barstool, how many women he could still take home after the bar, and whether he still managed to show up the next day and win the game.
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If there was a category for that he’d be in on the first ballot, along with Paul Hornung, (the real) LT, and Broadway Joe.
Maybe they should establish a committee, lol.
February 4th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RaidO, the passing game didn’t hold them back from reaching the Bowl. Number 10 did with those turnovers…or that’s how I see it.
Go Raiders!
February 4th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Yeah the 49ers are a great example. Top 5 defense(4th). Good rushing offense(8th), 29th in passing offense.
No “potent pass attack”= No super bowl
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ya I think you need to be somewhere btween 1-10 in all those catagories
to get to the big dance an win
February 4th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RaidO, the passing game didn’t hold them back from reaching the Bowl. Number 10 did with those turnovers…or that’s how I see it.
Go Raiders!
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49ers got there with forcing turnovers. Saints game
February 4th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Miami, I had a meeting this morning with my production team – the Certified Platinum Posse – where we did bong rips and discussed the Wrecks N Effect VIP tour.
Looks like I’ll be doing a few dates at the Fontainbleau this Summer, will need address of all nearby strip clubs that feature Asian babes shaved down below.
Gotta keep it clean if you wanna pleasure “The Machine” (again, referring to my johnson).
Also hit me back with every drug store within walking distance that sells Magnums & margarita mix in bulk
February 4th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Sometimes college coaches don’t translate to the pros well
ie see patrino an saben
February 4th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
I’m just speculating here, but I would bet that the percentage of players that would take a Super Bowl ring over a Hall of Fame jacket is pretty close to 100.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
I’m happy with our choice for d-coordinator, a possible up and comer, besides was there really any other option, we were denied the opportunity to speak with a couple of coaches, so don’t be mad at the choice, Allen tried to hire someone else, like I said befor, I’m willing to take the “let’s wait and see approach.”
February 4th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
NickMiller89 Nick Miller
So excited to have Coach bones as the special teams coordinated in STL!!
43 minutes ago
February 4th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
footballscoop FootballScoop Staff
by Jerrymcd
Sources telling us Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has accepted the defensive coordinator job w the Raiders
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Just to update Jerry’s own story with a tweet from Jerry.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Bahahaha.
Seriously though Beech, you don’t come to South Beach to look for Asians like I wouldn’t fly to L.A to look for hot cubanita’s. Agree? Lol
Mos def hitting the Bleau to check out the dope album and phat rhymes, yo. Strip clubs are like liquor stores in the hood here.
Nizzle! Lol
February 4th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
footballscoop FootballScoop Staff
by Jerrymcd
Sources telling us Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has accepted the defensive coordinator job w the Raiders
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I think we’re going to be happy with this. He’s young too, so if he does what he seems capable of he could be here awhile.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Tarver sucks!
February 4th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Albert Puss, I’m going to need Tweets of every kick returner in the NFL cut & pasted to the blog STAT
If your mom gets pissed because you’re not coming down for dinner, tell her you’re finishing up a school project – no, not the one that involves sticking a Whatchamacallit up your poop chute.
And then I’d love to hear what DVD you’ll be watching tonight with your parents
I’m betting on Kung Fu Panda
February 4th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Albert Puss, I’m going to need Tweets of every kick returner in the NFL cut & pasted to the blog STAT
If your mom gets pissed because you’re not coming down for dinner, tell her you’re finishing up a school project – no, not the one that involves sticking a Whatchamacallit up your poop chute.
And then I’d love to hear what DVD you’ll be watching tonight with your parents
I’m betting on Kung Fu Panda
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I don’t have time for your nonsense. Too busy getting a hand jobs from all the Kardashian sisters.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I banged a few Cubanos in Mazatlan and my nads always end up smelling like cojita cheese.
Got a bad case of yellow fever right now, been hooking up with this Asa Akira look-a-like (but with bigger cans and a bad nose job) who knows the score.
The score, as in, she’s extremely experienced when it comes to interracial love making.
My manager is suggesting I double wrap to keep the hog unblemished, gotta keeping it real
February 4th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
I am happy with the new hires, we needed to get rid of all the old AL garbage. I figured we would have needed to start looking at the college ranks when other teams were denying us access to interviews. Now, I do think we should look to Alabama to get a linebackers coach, they seem to do well with their linebackers. We need to finish our coaching hires so Raiders can start sorting through all the underachievers and dead wood and get rid of them all. I much rather start with a whole new clean house instead of having old pieces getting in our way.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Anyone know why the Raiders aren’t denying the Chiefs interviews with Saunders while there are tons of teams doing the same with their assistants?
Attention to details McKenzie.
Attention to details…
February 4th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
R8dercain Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Post 100
are u 16yo kid?
Just askin. Or are you tryin to provide entertainment to this blog
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Master is just a character on this blog that provides fictional prose. He could be another poster on here as well. I have my suspicions.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Capt Steubing is on a roll tonite..lol
February 4th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Gdog Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Anyone know why the Raiders aren’t denying the Chiefs interviews with Saunders while there are tons of teams doing the same with their assistants?
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Maybe he’s not in our plans, and Reggie’s being a class act about it.
Maybe it’s so we don’t have to pay him if he catches on with another team.
Flip a coin.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Saunders is under contract for another year, isn’t he?
February 4th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Saunders is under contract for another year, isn’t he?
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At this point he is, unless he catches on with another team.
Interesting that the Chiefs didn’t want him. Thought that’d be a slam dunk.
February 4th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
131.RaiderDuck Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Gdog Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Anyone know why the Raiders aren’t denying the Chiefs interviews with Saunders while there are tons of teams doing the same with their assistants?
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Maybe he’s not in our plans, and Reggie’s being a class act about it.
Maybe it’s so we don’t have to pay him if he catches on with another team.
Flip a coin.
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Could also be that the guy is a well-respected veteran coach that’s been around the league for a long time and paid his dues, and the org feels like he deserves to see what else is out there since he’s not part of the long term plan and it would be kinda sh*tty to keep him here under the current circumstances.
February 4th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Could also be that the guy is a well-respected veteran coach that’s been around the league for a long time and paid his dues, and the org feels like he deserves to see what else is out there since he’s not part of the long term plan and it would be kinda sh*tty to keep him here under the current circumstances.
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Which is sort of a long-winded way of saying exactly what Duck posted in his first sentence, lol.
I wish I was that concise sometimes.
February 4th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Morilla does this look like fiction to you -
Yo, all blog dweebs give the Pats the Bird
Cause Bill Belichick is a straight up nerd
Step it up Eli, you know business calls
Now I gotta get in the bath to scrub my balls
(cause I’ve been having mad sex, whut)
MO DIZZLE
February 4th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Very surprised that Parcells didn’t make the Hall of Fame. The guys’ coaching tree alone should have gotten him in. It’s an intangible, but there’s no denying the effect it’s had on the game.
February 4th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Master Beeecham, #136
Why would you have to scrub those if you are wearing condoms? Well, no matter. Just get a blood workup done once per year, and remember Hep C. It’s passed through saliva – a condom does you no good there; unless you just F your girls with no kissing.
You are a young man, having fun (as you should). Stay that way Beecham. I know how it is in LA because I live here too, in west LA. You can have as many women as you want. If you have something and find it early, it’s always curable or treatable.
My friend found out too late, and now he’s done.
February 4th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
What has Al Saunders ever done?
Dude is old, we don’t need him.
New ERA, no more Al Stank…
February 4th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Hardline, I appreciate your concern for the health of my weiner and nads, but you’re killing my buzz.
I promise I always respect my junk and have a closet full of Magnums and fruit roll ups (as backup).
The only reason I’m scrubbing my junk is because the boys are caked with stripper frosting. Goes on smooth like Parkay, comes off flaky like parmesan cheese.
Brah, maybe you should make yourself a Manwich and a few cold brews. Bad news about your pal, but you gotta pick yourself up and keep it real!
February 4th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Update on whats twizzlin at my casa.
My two ton bbw wife, sent me to the grocery store again to pick up more razors so she could shave that mop under her arms. Yo dig it.
Then, to get her whack on she made me get in position and coerced me to “clean out my pipes”, (meaning she forced me to insert an enema into myself for her own personal sadistic enjoyment.)
Yo shnizzle, we’ll be sippin on herbal chamollie tea all night while she makes me rub her fat feet.
Just keepinz it real yo.
February 4th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
sucks to be you
February 4th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
275.FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
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You don’t know anything about investors, do you? 800 million of their dollars for a team at the bottom, with the idea the team can only go up? Would you invest a fortune with a hope the team gets out of the cellar?
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I sure do know about investing.
It’s about paying as little as possible and then generating a long term steady return and payout.
As an investor, I look at the Raiders as a franchise that already has a rich tradition and does well with merchandising, and has all the potential in the world to increase their value, net worth and revenue…ESPCIALLY now that the stubborn, delusional owner old man Al is not running things anymore.
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I beg to differ. If your answer is you explaining you knowing investing, you obviously flunked the class. Your post is full of red flags. “rich tradition: “has all the potential” “especially now that someone is gone”. Every investor would run from that analysis.
Lots of companies had rich traditions that foolish investors counted on, and lost everything.
and merchandise? Raiders don’t get the money from merchandise. all money goes to NFL, and is divided evenly.
Again, investing 800 million on “hopeful” and “optimistic” is for fools.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jason_Tarver
Nothing official yet but check the second line. I was checking it periodically & it was recently changed – within the last 1/2 hour. I like it…I think. A lot of unknowns coming into this season, but isn’t there always?Raiders 4 Life!
February 4th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
If the Raiders go to la la land, they’ll be as fake as a boob job in that plastic garbage town better known for its septic tank odors. But I suppose if your in la la land and can’t distinguish the difference between a three dollar bill and a four dollar bill nobody would even know the Raiders were in town. The Raiders moved back to Oakland? Huh? I thought they were from Oakland. Yeah, LA the land of no brains and couch potatoes and potatoesses.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Hardline, I appreciate your concern for the health of my weiner and nads, but you’re killing my buzz.
I promise I always respect my junk and have a closet full of Magnums and fruit roll ups (as backup).
The only reason I’m scrubbing my junk is because the boys are caked with stripper frosting. Goes on smooth like Parkay, comes off flaky like parmesan cheese.
Brah, maybe you should make yourself a Manwich and a few cold brews. Bad news about your pal, but you gotta pick yourself up and keep it real!
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I know someone who gets ass all day and all night and he don’t say a word about it.
Word!
February 4th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Beecham, your just plain nasty.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
And filfthy.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
I knew a guy so raunchy he had to go to the fire department just to get hosed down before he could take a shower.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
This may be the whitest Raider coaching staff in a long time.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I knew a skank so leaky that she came with flood warnings.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
808, Beeecham is full of sh*t. That guy probably hasn’t been with a real woman in ten years. He seems like a blow up doll type of guy.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/should-mark-davis-move-the-oakland-raiders-back-to-la-poll.html
February 4th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
150.Albert Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
This may be the whitest Raider coaching staff in a long time.
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And their leader and boss is a black man that made it all happen.
I don’t care if the staff is black, white, red or polkadot.
Well, if we had a polkadot coordinator I might have a problem with that.
Never liked those folks.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Giants 38
Patriots 24
February 4th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
808, if you’re new to the blog, let me offer you a personal VIP Beeech Dawg invitation to tee off on Albert Puss.
The Blog Punching Bag has been shooting blanks and taking upper cuts for years now and you’re missing out if you don’t get a sweet slap in on a dope Sat night!
DEM LADIES GETTIN LOOSE
February 4th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
#143,
I think it makes sense.
There’s a reason the Raiders are ranked 31st in value.
Smart money says that can only get better. How much worse can it get?
New management. A long term PLAN to improve the situation and relocate if necessary to grow?
February 4th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
#154: Why you not like the spotty people?
February 4th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
144.RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jason_Tarver
Nothing official yet but check the second line. I was checking it periodically & it was recently changed – within the last 1/2 hour. I like it…I think. A lot of unknowns coming into this season, but isn’t there always?Raiders 4 Life!
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I like it too. It’s more fun than Greg Knapp.
I’d prefer to get the DC of Alabama for two reasons:
1- Did u see what they did to LSU?
2- Familiarity with McClain and what makes him tick. What it might take to get him to take this whole “NFL thing” seriously.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
158.CanuckRaider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
#154: Why you not like the spotty people?
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I don’t know. Just don’t trust ‘em i guess.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
#160: It’s them shifty eyes.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
#161,
Exactly. Lol.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Kinda weird with all the talk of this becoming “Green Bay West” we don’t have anybody from GB that Reggie brought along.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Jason Tarver’s Wikipedia
“In February 2012, Tarver was hired by new Raiders head coach Dennis Allen to replace former defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan”
2012–present Oakland Raiders (DC)
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February 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Ok, we just hired a new DC.
This is a moment all of us have been waiting for quite a long time and everybody’s gone except for me and our friend from Vancouver.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
164.RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Jason Tarver’s Wikipedia
“In February 2012, Tarver was hired by new Raiders head coach Dennis Allen to replace former defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan”
2012–present Oakland Raiders (DC)
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How do you like the hire RaidO?
February 4th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
164.RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Jason Tarver’s Wikipedia
“In February 2012, Tarver was hired by new Raiders head coach Dennis Allen to replace former defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan”
2012–present Oakland Raiders (DC)
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How do you like the hire RaidO
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Since Tarver does not have much of a defense identity looks like he will be running whatever and doing whatever Allen wants to do. A “yes man”. A rookie DC calling some else’s plays and scheme may be a little ruff.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I’m not too excited about this staff. They are young and raw, so I hope it works out.
February 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
We have rookies at GM, HC, and DC. Not an ideal situation for a team that finished 8-8, and was trying to compete for the division
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February 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Excerpt of article on Jason Tarver from Sept. 2011:
Here’s all you need to know about his skills as a coach: He was hired by Mariucci, then retained by Dennis Erickson, Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary. Counting Jim Tomsula, who coached the 2010 finale after Singletary was fired, he worked for five head coaches in one organization.
Jim Harbaugh would have kept him, too, but David Shaw offered him a key position at Stanford.
He’s 37 now, and still gets asked: “Why coach?”
He says he caught the coaching bug at West Valley College in Saratoga. He had gotten a scholarship to play at Santa Clara, which dropped football a few months later. He took a detour to play at the junior college and later coached there while completing his degree.
“I really love the look on guys’ faces when you help them make a play,” he said. “It’s almost better than doing it yourself. That’s what really made me want to do this.
“And then, I like to see 22 guys running around and see how it all fits together. That’s a puzzle that’s always fun. It’s a moving puzzle every single play, and you’ve got to figure it out between the plays.”
February 4th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Was/ is trying to compete….
February 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Anyone here excited about the new DC? I like to hear your opinions.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Where is Mike Singletary, and why couldn’t we offer him the DC position?
February 4th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Hey my fellow RAIDAHS! New to this Blogging thing. I have been reading ALL the comments & have decided to chime in. The neg tones & optimism seem about even as far as the moves & hires. I for one did not like the firing of Hue but, I’ve accepted & respected Reggie’s decision for a clean slate. I’ve watched the press conference twice I can’t help but feel that energy & intensity from coach Allen.I am a BIG FAN of defenses that SWARM, don’t miss tackles & punish the ball carrier.I am amazed @ times how our DB’s play the receiver instead of the ball.(They never look back for the ball!)It’s obvious that those type of techniques were being taught! Time for change, the players we have in the secondary are good enough. Stanford get’s BS calls for being aggressive, I can live with that.The real key is not having a dominant DE! we have a bunch of middle of the pack guys that are decent. Qb’s have too much time & tend to get comfortable in the pocket. We are going to be Okaaay Fellas! Big name coaches were no name coaches 1st. I don’t have to comment on the offense if we stay healthy can’t nobody see us! Players make plays & if they can’t you get someone in that can. Overpaid, chronically injured, No HEART, & Lazy players have to be weeded out & shipped off! (SCHILLINGS) I have a phrase I heard 15 years ago “You can’t make the club in the tub” There are others but I’m tired of hearing about this cat on IR. I’ve played the game & have watched for thirty years I can breakdown how many Blitz pick up blocks Micheal Bush missed that prevented a touchdown or or a big play. Please my brothers were three to five players away from doing it BIG! We going to the SHIP SOON! PLEASE BELIEVE IT! Just thought I’d bring some Nostalgia! Too old for SWAAG, besides I had that when I was swimmin in my DADDY BAG! lol Look forward to chopping it up with you guys!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Raider O Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Where is Mike Singletary, and why couldn’t we offer him the DC position?
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He’s never been a coordinator, and Tarver has (sorta).
February 4th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Not too worried about our DC.
DA will be mentoring whoever comes in so it makes sense it’s someone like Tarver.
We all need to stop worrying, trust Reggie and judge this team on W’s and L’s.
Everyone here thinks they could be a GM, Lol…
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Why do we need to blindly trust Reggie? What has he shown us besides some questionable, uninspired decisions regarding the coaching staff and difficulty in stringing together multiple coherent sentences in public.
If our opinions don’t mean squat as you suggest then why even post here in the first place?
February 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Saunders jobless too i see but he is under contract so could he come back and be assistant oc to knapp and they could mix in their schemes for the offense. Not happening though
February 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Why isn’t a rookie GM, HC, and rookie DCnot an ideal situation?
We haven’t done crap for 9 years with experienced coaches.
Reggie knows what he’s doing. He spent a lot time working for one of the Best Orgs.
No one on this Blog has watched this team do squat for NINE years!
I trust Reggie, I will take his word over anyone’s, period.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Yeah, Tarver is a big “?” we really don’t know his style or scheme because he does not really have one yet. Every coach OC or DC has an identity. Kanpp likes run the ball, Gregg Williams is a blitz heavy DC, Andy Reid is a pass happy guy. ext, ext. I do think Stanford runs a 3-4.
He may just end up being Allen’s proxy.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I trust Reggie because he worked as a key evaluator of talent for a team that is a Model Franchise.
Evaluating talent I would say is a good thing.
He addressed our biggest need and picked a good, young, tough, Discipkined Defensive HC, perfect for what this team needs.
Now he can go to work and evaluate personnel and start putting a better Raider team in 2012.
Your a Hue lover so maybe a pedicure is in order for you.
BTW, how come your Boy Hue is still posting his resume on Career Builder.
Get behind Reggie, he’s running the show and ain’t going anywhere!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Raider O Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Anyone here excited about the new DC?
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I’m ok with it.
He’s definitely an intelligent guy and I like how he talks about liking the challenge of seeing 22 guys run around and trying to put it all together.
I hope he’ll be able to “put it all together” as far as preventing opposing teams from driving length of field in under 1:30.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Raider O Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
We have rookies at GM, HC, and DC. Not an ideal situation for a team that finished 8-8, and was trying to compete for the division
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Agreed. Not to mention new schemes. New terminology. New relationships. New staff getting to know what the players’ strengths and weaknesses are and how to best motivate each guy. All with rookies running the entire organization.
Very scary setup for a team that would’ve been 12-4 with Hue and a good DC.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Chris In NY Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Not too worried about our DC.
DA will be mentoring whoever comes in so it makes sense it’s someone like Tarver.
We all need to stop worrying, trust Reggie and judge this team on W’s and L’s.
Everyone here thinks they could be a GM, Lol…
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Why do we need to blindly trust Reggie? What has he shown us besides some questionable, uninspired decisions regarding the coaching staff and difficulty in stringing together multiple coherent sentences in public.
If our opinions don’t mean squat as you suggest then why even post here in the first place?
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Yeah that “trust Reggie” stuff is nonsense. So far seems Raiders are getting the “whats left” or “reaches” in these hires.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
DONT TAKE LIFE TO SERIOUS..YOUR NOT GOING TO LIVE THROUGH IT.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Why isn’t a rookie GM, HC, and rookie DCnot an ideal situation?
We haven’t done crap for 9 years with experienced coaches.
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We almost did “crap” this season and the season before that. We finished 8-8 the last 2 seasons. One season we went 6-0 in the division, but finished 2-8 outside it. The next year we finish 8-8 despite losing our owner/ GM, starting QB, and starting RB. We also had a defense that was ranked 29th in the NFL, and we broke the penalty record for number and yards.
This team is ready to win, has talent, but needs better coaching.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
12-4 with Hue??
Explain our 1-4 record at end of the year?
Explain our penalty record?
Why hasn’t hue been hired?
I thought he was great too and I realized he was a liar and he couldn’t get his team to win one game when we needed it!!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I trust Reggie because he worked as a key evaluator of talent for a team that is a Model Franchise.
Evaluating talent I would say is a good thing.
He addressed our biggest need and picked a good, young, tough, Discipkined Defensive HC, perfect for what this team needs.
Now he can go to work and evaluate personnel and start putting a better Raider team in 2012.
Your a Hue lover so maybe a pedicure is in order for you.
BTW, how come your Boy Hue is still posting his resume on Career Builder.
Get behind Reggie, he’s running the show and ain’t going anywhere!
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Being an assistant or being associated with a great team does not mean you were the driving force for that success nor is there any likelihood it will carry it on elsewhere at this level.
For examples of this, just look at all the ex Patriots and early 90s Cowboys coaches who have flopped since leaving those situations.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Raider O Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
We have rookies at GM, HC, and DC. Not an ideal situation for a team that finished 8-8, and was trying to compete for the division
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O, that is why Knapp is here. To “guide” these young guys through a 7-8 8-8 season. Then be told he is the reason we did not make the playoffs again. So Allen fires him and hires a real OC (Norv Turner), who then changes the O system and the O line blocking system and start again. Good news, we will then have our D dialed in and a legit O. 2013 = 15-1 & a Superbowl WIN Baby!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
LMAO
February 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
12-4 with Hue??
Explain our 1-4 record at end of the year?
Explain our penalty record?
Why hasn’t hue been hired?
I thought he was great too and I realized he was a liar and he couldn’t get his team to win one game when we needed it!!
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Finished up against an unbeaten GB team on the road, a red-hot Miami team on the road, and the Detroit and SD games were almost solely lost by the defense. Defense was not Hue’s side of the ball and he was going to clean house and bring in his own guys this year if given a chance.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
You forgot to add that we don’t want to give Cinci a 1st RD pick, and we want high draft picks in 2013!!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Anything is better than how we were doing things.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
The Miami game was the game a Good Coach would have won.
A real head coach is responsible for the whole team.
No excuses, HueSux…
February 4th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Flow chart system now. That means the HC picks his staff. No point quibbling over who he picks. Basically, when it comes to coordinators, Dennis Allen is Al Davis. He’s going to do what he wants. Period.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Chris In NY Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
12-4 with Hue??
Explain our 1-4 record at end of the year?
Explain our penalty record?
Why hasn’t hue been hired?
I thought he was great too and I realized he was a liar and he couldn’t get his team to win one game when we needed it!!
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Finished up against an unbeaten GB team on the road, a red-hot Miami team on the road, and the Detroit and SD games were almost solely lost by the defense. Defense was not Hue’s side of the ball and he was going to clean house and bring in his own guys this year if given a chance
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and you know how Al ran things. Hue had the offense and Bresnahan ran the defense. Hue did not have much say in the defense. The offense was not the problem.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
We lost 4 game due to our defense:
1- Bills
2- Denver
3- Lions
4- Chargers
We lost 2 game to better teams:
1- Pats (playing tomorrow in the SB)
2- GB (played in the POs, and win the SB last season)
We lost to KC because we lost our stating QB.
Fix the Defense, install discipline, no Injurues, and this team can be 12-4!!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Won the SB last …..
Starting* QB….
February 4th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
168,Raider O,perhaps they are Real Hungry,on a mission together,just KICK ARSE,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
McKenzie drafts the players, probably with some input from HC and his staff, hires and fires HC.
HC runs football operations aside from player acquisitions/releases. Chooses his staff.
Coordinators organize their squads, call plays/schemes.
The.
End.
It’s not like the old days where the GM would hire the head coach AND hand pick his staff for him.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Raider O Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
We lost 4 game due to our defense:
1- Bills
2- Denver
3- Lions
4- Chargers
We lost 2 game to better teams:
1- Pats (playing tomorrow in the SB)
2- GB (played in the POs, and win the SB last season)
We lost to KC because we lost our stating QB.
Fix the Defense, install discipline, no Injurues, and this team can be 12-4!!
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So true man. Next season is little different than most. Raiders should be a playoff team but with all these changes now there is a big “?”
February 4th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
You know what this whole situation reminds me of? Carlito’s Way.
The Raiders are like Carlito. Finally poised to escape the mess. Ready to move on and start anew. Right there, inches from escape, poised for a monstere season in 2012. And out of nowhere comes Billy Blanco from the Bronx (played in this case Mark Davis) to unexpectely and heartbreakingly snuff out the whole thing.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
HC is responsible for his staff, the staff he chooses. Under Al, the assistants would be chosen by Al, and the HC would STILL be responsible for them! Any wonder why we couldn’t land big name coaches? Who puts up with that?
February 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Hendu,
I hope so brother. The last 2 seasons got me real excited, and I don’t want to go back to those sub .500 years.
RAIDERS!!!!
Who is going to win tomorrow?
February 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Chris In NY Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
You know what this whole situation reminds me of? Carlito’s Way.
The Raiders are like Carlito. Finally poised to escape the mess. Ready to move on and start anew. Right there, inches from escape, poised for a monstere season in 2012. And out of nowhere comes Billy Blanco from the Bronx (played in this case Mark Davis) to unexpectely and heartbreakingly snuff out the whole thing.
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lol, good metaphor. This may be the “Carlito’s Way” season.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Chris,
I love that movie!!!!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
You’re not a lawyer no more, Dave. You’re a gangster now. Whole new ball game. You can’t learn about it in no classroom. And you can’t get a late start.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
“Pachanga would murder his own mother for 10 dollars”
“most people would”.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
SASSO!!!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Chris,you have a defeatist attitude toward next season without seeing what is going to happen between now and the start of the season;without seeing what this staff is going to do in the pre-season.There is nothing wrong with having a degree of doubt,but you keep saying things are beyond hope.Shouldn’t the current regime be given a chance before proclaiming them failures?
February 4th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Pachanga!!!!!!lol
Great movie.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Ok, we just hired a new DC.
This is a moment all of us have been waiting for quite a long time and everybody’s gone except for me and our friend from Vancouver.
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Tarver is just a reach with upside at least, since Allen could not get anyone else.
At least it is not a bottom of the barrel old and bad retread like Chuck B.
I’m not happy about ANY of the Coordinator hires by Allen. Can’t do anything about it though….just have to wait and see and PRAY!
Sassooooo! LOL
February 4th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
oooooooo,Giants,fuk the tuckers,Brady with that sfbs smirk,Ya,I was throwing a pass,yup,incomplete,CW WHIPPED youre ARSE,sorry fellas,Im gettin more PISSED OFF AGAIN,GP,its only a game,yes Sweetheart,youre right
February 4th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Sasso
Pachanga
Dave
Carlito
Benny Blanco
February 4th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Chris In NY Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
You know what this whole situation reminds me of? Carlito’s Way.
The Raiders are like Carlito. Finally poised to escape the mess. Ready to move on and start anew. Right there, inches from escape, poised for a monstere season in 2012. And out of nowhere comes Billy Blanco from the Bronx (played in this case Mark Davis) to unexpectely and heartbreakingly snuff out the whole thing.
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Great analogy and comparison.
It’s what is going to happen IMO. We were this close to getting back to the playoffs and all Hue needed was a REAL DC.
Now McK and Allen be battling to stay within or out of the top 10 in the 2013 draft me thinks.
February 4th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Hendu,
LOL
I hate the Rats and Billisacheat too. I hope the Giants win. My favorite NFC team is GB. Fans own the team! You gotta love it! I wanted the Texans to win the AFC, but it’s hard to do that with your 3rd string QB.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Ive never been wise with money,any chance we can buy into the team,new digs,etc?What would have to happen?GB West
February 4th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
lefty12 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Chris,you have a defeatist attitude toward next season without seeing what is going to happen between now and the start of the season;without seeing what this staff is going to do in the pre-season.There is nothing wrong with having a degree of doubt,but you keep saying things are beyond hope.Shouldn’t the current regime be given a chance before proclaiming them failures?
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You’re right. The reality is that Allen and McKenzie may work out. They’ve certainly got a lot to work with coming in with the weapons and talent this team has.
I just know that we’d be better off with Hue. That Greg Knapp is a huge downgrade from Hue and Saunders. Having said that the defense should almost certainly be better under Allen, but the defense almost certainly would’ve been better under whoever Hue brought in anyway.
And in firing Hue, Chubby Checker severed the guy that Al Davis passed the torch to before said guy had a real, fair shake to vindicate Al and win the Raider way: by being brash, bold, fun and with a commitment to excellence. To me the death of Al hit a little harder with Hue’s firing than it did with Al’s actual death. Because the death was unavoidable but the decision to fire Hue certainly was avoidable. And even with Al’s death, it felt like Hue was carrying the team forward in the spirit of Al Davis and what the Raiders have always been about. Now, with Hue’s firing, I suspect that the Al Davis Raiders may be dead. And the new Raiders will no longer be a franchise that’s one of a kind in all of sports and instead just 1 of 32 corporate cookie-cutter teams, just with cooler uniforms.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
holy cow…you guys are still whining about Huebris being fired? I thought one of you predicted Hue would get a job as OC with Pagano in Indy?
I could careless who we get as DC in Oak. Allen is the DC. PERIOD (in honor of BHP)! You think Allen is going to be hands off in an area that he made a living in? Please tell me you’re not that naive.
Go Raiders.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Carlito’s Way is based on the book “After Hours”, which is actually a sequel to the book “Carlito’s Way”. In the late ’90s some rappers made a straight to video movie about the original book, which details Carlito’s life before going to prison. Think it’s called Carlito’s Way, Rise To Power. I think Fat Joe, Big Pun, et al were involved with it. Notice that the movie Carlito’s Way, the one we all know of, picks up right at Carlito being released from prison, and trying to start a new life by owning a night club with his lawyer, hence, “After Hours”.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
I’m not sure about the structure of the Raiders shares, but i kbow Mr. Davis sikd sime of his shares a few years ago.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
I know Mr. Davis sold some shares a few years ago.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Hue could not stay with a GM. Once Mark made the choice to hire a GM, Hue was toast. That was a no brainer. Mark doesn’t want to be involved with football operations. Really, Hue’s fate was sealed when Al passed. Because Mark had no interest in playing the role of owner/empty suited GM. He’d be putting himself in a position where he’s responsible for Hue. He doesn’t want that responsibility. So he hired a GM. And the GM….*obviously* te he, is going to hire his own HC.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Hendu,
Mark Davis is the Majority owner now after Al passed away. There are other owners, and the Shares are Private.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
That’s all I know.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
On another note, how is Tim Brown not in the Hall of Fame yet? Didn’t that seem like a foregone conclusion near the end of Brown’s career.
How do guys like Cortez Kennedy, Chris Doleman, Dermontti Dawson, etc. make it in before #81. Nothing against those guys per se, but you can’t seriously tell me they were better or made a bigger impact than TB.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Hendu,
Legally, the club is a limited partnership with nine partners — Davis’ heirs and the heirs of the original eight team partners. From 1972 onward, Davis had exercised near-complete control as president of the team’s general partner, A.D. Football, Inc. Although exact ownership stakes are not known, it has been reported that Davis owned 47% of the team shares before his death in 2011.[71]
According to Wiki
February 4th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Hue was campaigning for the HC job as soon as he walked through the door here, especially with an oaf like Cable in the position. Who knows how many people Hue crapped on along the way? Guys like Hue never make it without screwing people over. He was probably undermining Cable every minute and sabotaging him one way or another. Hue’s not innocent. He politicized his way to the top under Al’s regime, and Al kicked the bucket. As they say in Russia: Tough shiztzky.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Raider OOO,seems if the fans could buy in,The Nation,wow,what kind of stadium could be built?Much better than LA,PERIOD
February 4th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Weird to say that many of you(on a Raider blog) will hate this, but just now on “NFL Honors” they showed a video compilation of those former players, coaches, owners, refs, etc. who passed this year and the ONLY ONES who received applause were when they showed and Myra Kraft and …oh gasp….Al Davis.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Cable was pretty much a dead man walking entering that last year. Really don’t think Hue had to do much campaigning as people suggest he must’ve.
I think Hue was Al’s guy but instead of making him HC right away, he gave him a trial year as OC while Cable was a lame duck coach in the final year of his contract. When Hue turned the offense from No. 31 to No. 6 in his first season that’s what sealed the deal. Had nothing to do with backstabbing and everything to do with results.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Hue would be the perfect coach if Al were still alive. We probably would have seen Gruden like success. 12 win season withing a couple of years, but no SB because Al would have meddled just enough to screw that up. But we would have been good. Would have had an identity and swagger, would have won. Now that Al’s gone, Hue’s the worst thing we could have because his grandiose ambitions would only clash with the new flow chart type of organization Mark would inevitably put in place. Mark doesn’t need any of this. He just wants to fly to Hawaii and drink a couple of cocktails, and enjoy what’s left of his spoiled brat life. He doesn’t want to grow old obsessing over this game, like he watched his dad do.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
226,Thanks,Raider OO,Mark and Amy,frig,ALL of us want the Raiders here with a New Stadium,Why cant we be GB West?
February 4th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Wheres Chaos? HaHa
February 4th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
#231,
I get the same idea from Mark.
He wants to make money though and I’m sure he wants to win and be a successful organization but he’s smart enough to “know what he doesn’t know” and let guys that do run the show for him.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Chris, you think the same owner who shipped Gruden across the country when we were one of the best teams in the league gives a rat’s ass about results?
February 4th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
johnny it’s not that serious. It’s the family business but it’s not the mafia for crying out loud.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Chris, you think the same owner who shipped Gruden across the country when we were one of the best teams in the league gives a rat’s ass about results?
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Fair enough. Although people who like comparing the Carson Palmer trade to the Herschel Walker trade should first review what the Raiders got in return for Gruden. It was an insane haul including multiple first rounders, multiple more high picks and millions in cash.
Of course, didn’t work out for the Raides like it did the Cowboys. But still, hard to imagine any coach in today’s NFL outside of maybe Belichick of being traded for that much in return.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Hendu,
I’m not sure what the terms are conditions are for this limited partnership, but I’m assuming that you/ we can buy one of the partners’ shares.
February 4th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RaidO Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Chris In NY Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
You know what this whole situation reminds me of? Carlito’s Way.
The Raiders are like Carlito. Finally poised to escape the mess. Ready to move on and start anew. Right there, inches from escape, poised for a monstere season in 2012. And out of nowhere comes Billy Blanco from the Bronx (played in this case Mark Davis) to unexpectely and heartbreakingly snuff out the whole thing.
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Great analogy and comparison.
It’s what is going to happen IMO. We were this close to getting back to the playoffs and all Hue needed was a REAL DC.
Now McK and Allen will be battling to stay within or out of the top 10 in the 2013 draft me thinks. However, the Raiders have talented players on offense. It will take a major screw up by Knappy, if he doesn’t get the offense to score TD’s and regress from what Hue and Saunders accomplished.
I think a coach like Knapp is the type that can screw it up and I hope I’m wrong!
SASSOOOOO! LOL
February 4th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
First time chkin in and long time raider….This house cleaning had to happen like it or not…I for one am excited for the combine an off-seson already…Im optimistic about the new blood in the coaches locker room…we just need some football players and less athletes…play makers!!
February 4th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Terms & conditions…..
Also Mark is the GP (general partner), so he has final say in things. We share profit and some liability.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Thanks Raider OOO,If Mark Davis would consider public buyins,Im sayin the Nation would come up with LOTS of cash,think of what stadium could be built,WOW.Anyway,Im out till tomorrow,RAIDERS!!!!!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
I heard Peyton Manning was throwing passes, working out with Colt receivers this week.
I wonder if Carson is doing that on his time off?
February 4th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
226.Raider O Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Hendu,
Legally, the club is a limited partnership with nine partners — Davis’ heirs and the heirs of the original eight team partners. From 1972 onward, Davis had exercised near-complete control as president of the team’s general partner, A.D. Football, Inc. Although exact ownership stakes are not known, it has been reported that Davis owned 47% of the team shares before his death in 2011.[71]
According to Wiki
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Raider O
I noticed that in your limited partnership analysis, the business entity aka the Raiders, carried a legal name of “A.D. Football, Inc.”
That absolutely cannot be so since a Limited Partnership and a Corporation are two distinctly separate entities. One cannot be the other. BTW, CA law under the Corporations Code makes it a requirement that all limited partnerships carry the moniker LP, i.e
A.D. Football, LP.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
I can take a Nap on the hiring of Greg!
If Al Saunders was the author of the “greatest show on turf”,why doesn’t anyone(Raiders included) want him?
Raider Nation,if we think some of these coaching transactions are bizarre,wait until Reggie gets to the roster.There are gonna be some moves that will have most of us in an uproar when the spring comes.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
However, A.D. Football Inc. could be the General Partner in the LP know as the Raiders, LP, in which case AL would have held all management control, as you said, over the team.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Hardline,
My understanding was AD football inc.(or lp as u stated it should be) was the legal “entity” of the person of Al Davis.
Is that possible?
February 4th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Djohnnnyg-no offense,but I wouldn’t put to much into that rumor.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
I meant to say Al Davis Inc. would be the “entity” having controlling shares in the Raiders LP.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
I mean A.D Football Inc.
Okay, I give up.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Just to clarify, according to Wiki:
“After resigning as AFL commissioner, Davis formed a holding company, A.D. Football, Inc. and returned to his old club as one of three general partners, along with Wayne Valley and Ed McGah. He owned a 10% stake in the team, and was also named head of football operations.”
and:
“In 1972, while managing general partner Valley was attending the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, Davis drafted a revised partnership agreement that made him the new managing general partner, with near-absolute control over team operations. McGah signed the agreement. Since two of the team’s three general partners had voted in favor of the agreement, it was binding under partnership law of the time. Valley sued to overturn the agreement once he returned to the country, but was unsuccessful. Valley sold his interest in 1976, and from that point onward none of the other partners had any role in the team’s operations. This was despite the fact that Davis did not acquire a majority interest in the Raiders until 2005, when he bought the shares held by McGah’s family. At his death he owned approximately 67 percent of the team.”
Apparently the team is a general partnership with the partnership agreement specifying Al held all operational control.
Maybe it’s true, but as Lefty12 says, I wouldn’t put much into it.
Surprising that the partners didn’t sue AL for oppression or at least negligence in the management of the team, especially the past 10 years. However, the other partners must have come out approximately $25M ahead in lawsuit revenue when AL sued the NFL, City of Oakland, Irwindale, and Los Angeles in his anti-trust lawsuit.
I guess the partners share of $150M judgment was enough for them to turn a blind eye to AL’s mismanagement and hijinks.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
djohnnyg, #247
Johnny, if the information according to Wiki that I just posted is true, you are correct: A.D. Football Inc. was a corporation, actually the alter-ego of AL, which was the managing partner in the general partnership known as the “Raiders.”
Any business entity or individual can be a general partner in a general partnership.
Now, general partnerships in are in disfavor since in a general partnerships the partners assume general partnership liability on a personal basis.
The vast majority of partnerships are usually limited partnerships, which means the liability of the limited partners only flows to the amount of money they invested in the LP. However, the general partner, person or entity holding management control, still holds liability that flows to him/her or it personally.
That is why most general partners of a LP are corporations, so that no liability flows past the corporate structure to the investors personally.
That is how Al, apparently, set himself up in the Raiders.
February 4th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Ravenaider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
I can take a Nap on the hiring of Greg!
If Al Saunders was the author of the “greatest show on turf”,why doesn’t anyone(Raiders included) want him?
Raider Nation,if we think some of these coaching transactions are bizarre,wait until Reggie gets to the roster.There are gonna be some moves that will have most of us in an uproar when the spring comes.
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Like trade Veldheer and Wiz…
February 4th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
johnny it’s not that serious. It’s the family business but it’s not the mafia for crying out loud.
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Lmao… Yeah, that’s what you think.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Nor sure about the Mafia, but it was rumored back in the day that AL belonged to the Hell’s Angeles Motorcycle Club, and ran drugs, stolen bikes, and girls.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:21 am
As I assess it, there have been two major sports figures whom the public has feared, hated and admired all at the same time.
First would be Muhammed Ali. I personally remember Ali as a kid; I was afraid of him, coming out with the Muslims who were told were radical terrorists who wanted to overthrow America. I remember with each of Ali’s victories, before he was stripped of his title for refusing involuntary induction into the U.S. Army,
the newspaper would show Ali, fist in the air, his face highlighted by his mouthpiece (teeth guard). For some reason that just took my breath away, in fear.
Second public sports figure feared by the public was Al Davis. Rumor was you didn’t want to criticize the Raiders because if Al heard about it, somehow, somewhere, he would get back at you using violent methods and enlisted the Hells Angeles to do so. The unorthodox, violent and swash-buckling nature of the Raiders reinforced our idea about Davis, especially considering his black dress and hoodlum looking jelly roll haircuts.
However, once the Raiders won the 76 SuperBowl, we still fear Davis, but admired him too.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:39 am
303Raider Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Pass, stop the pass, intercept the pass, and get to the passer!!!!
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yep, this is the beat of the NFL now. Anyone not with this program is falling behind. Only a few who sell the “old way” even made the playoffs and it’s a dying breed.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:32 am
And in firing Hue, Chubby Checker severed the guy that Al Davis passed the torch to before said guy had a real, fair shake to vindicate Al and win the Raider way: by being brash, bold, fun and with a commitment to excellence. To me the death of Al hit a little harder with Hue’s firing than it did with Al’s actual death. Because the death was unavoidable but the decision to fire Hue certainly was avoidable. And even with Al’s death, it felt like Hue was carrying the team forward in the spirit of Al Davis and what the Raiders have always been about. Now, with Hue’s firing, I suspect that the Al Davis Raiders may be dead. And the new Raiders will no longer be a franchise that’s one of a kind in all of sports and instead just 1 of 32 corporate cookie-cutter teams, just with cooler uniforms.
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I don’t know about the “cooler uniforms” stuff. Have you seen those “Nike 2012 Uniform Analysis artist ideas? NFL quickly shot that down. The Steelers, Chiefs, Patriots and Redskins’ were laughable.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:22 am
I know it’s after the event (work gets in the way)but I just wanted to say that the HoF can kiss my ar$e right in the crack.
No respect shown to Tim.FU HoF.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:15 am
dennis hiring a younger DC wouldn’t surprise me at all.
It’s always tough to mold people that are older than you.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:23 am
Mark, Reggie and Dennis ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING!
Cleaning up this mess on BOTH sides of the ball….upgrading ALL the coaching positions and establishing clear lines of responsibility and accountiblility.
Stop whining over Hue Jackson. Just because the Raiders threw a couple of nice TD passess and that contrasts with the JaBustus area..does not make that offense all world.
I saw an offense that got a lot of “garbage time” stats….and offense that would seize up in the 2nd half of most games…an offense that couldn’t put the ball in the end zone.
It wasn’t all that great….just average.
And Hue was a below the line coach….as can be seen by his demand in the marketplace.
If Hue was a can’t miss find…Reggie would have kept him.
And Hue would still have job if he knew how to win.
Any fool can go 8-8
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
February 5th, 2012 at 5:35 am
And if you think about it knapp had to work with the biggest bust in the NFL. I dont think we will just run all ZBS he coule mix it up. Mcfadden stays PERIOD! whoever trades Mcfadden should lose their job. Because it will hurt us in the long run and watching him excel somewhere else and be the.best in the league would make me puke. Kind of like what marcus allen did. But i dont want them to trade mcfadden at all. Bush is good but he is not a starter. We should just fix the oline and thats it for the O now on the defensive side i dont really care who we get rid of or trade etc. That D needs to be fixed ASAP. Find some people who wont make stupid mistakes and actually have a nack for football instead of just showing up to collect a pay check. Truthfully the only wild player on D had to be henderson and shonasty along with curry. If there was more let me know i didnt really see. But the D needs a huge improvement.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:47 am
“Nike 2012 Uniform Analysis artist ideas?
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Those were fake.
And LOL at people lamenting the Al Davis way of doing things.
I’d rather the Raiders have a real shot at winning than have an organization run like a circus for the sake of being “unique”.
The Raiders will always be unique. That doesn’t mean they can’t do business like a modern, sustainable football organization.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:49 am
The Defense ?.. We had one ?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Fingers Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:49 am
The Defense ?.. We had one ?
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Officially we did, similar to how Pompeii officially had protection from Vesuvius. Did about as much good, too…
February 5th, 2012 at 6:26 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:47 am
“Nike 2012 Uniform Analysis artist ideas?
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Those were fake.
And LOL at people lamenting the Al Davis way of doing things.
I’d rather the Raiders have a real shot at winning than have an organization run like a circus for the sake of being “unique”.
The Raiders will always be unique. That doesn’t mean they can’t do business like a modern, sustainable football organization.
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I agree…new era for better or for worse (hopefully , for better)
February 5th, 2012 at 6:49 am
261.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:23 am
Mark, Reggie and Dennis ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING!
Cleaning up this mess on BOTH sides of the ball….upgrading ALL the coaching positions and establishing clear lines of responsibility and accountiblility.
Stop whining over Hue Jackson. Just because the Raiders threw a couple of nice TD passess and that contrasts with the JaBustus area..does not make that offense all world.
I saw an offense that got a lot of “garbage time” stats….and offense that would seize up in the 2nd half of most games…an offense that couldn’t put the ball in the end zone.
It wasn’t all that great….just average.
And Hue was a below the line coach….as can be seen by his demand in the marketplace.
If Hue was a can’t miss find…Reggie would have kept him.
And Hue would still have job if he knew how to win.
Any fool can go 8-8
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
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I know it’s early, but this is the post of the day.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:53 am
259.neilb Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:22 am
I know it’s after the event (work gets in the way)but I just wanted to say that the HoF can kiss my ar$e right in the crack.
No respect shown to Tim.FU HoF.
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I know I said this yesterday, but I’m going to repeat it anyway; until Flores, Branch and Ray Guy are in there the Hall of Fame is meaningless to me.
It’s a popularity contest, nothing more.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Finished up against an unbeaten GB team on the road, a red-hot Miami team on the road, and the Detroit and SD games were almost solely lost by the defense.
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That’s a lot of excuses there Chris. Are you going to grant ANY future Raider HC that line of credit?
And red-hot Miami? You mean the same team that lost the week before we played them and the week after? The one that went 3-3 to finish the season?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:56 am
None of the WR’s made it, and honestly, Andre Reed and Chris Carter SHOULD and will make it ahead of Timmy.
Brown will get there, but it will probably be in 5-8 years.
No big postseason moment hurts Tim, and CC as well. At least Reed went to a lot of Super Bowls and had that big comeback against Houston in the playoffs that everybody remembers.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:07 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:23 am
Mark, Reggie and Dennis ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING!
Cleaning up this mess on BOTH sides of the ball….upgrading ALL the coaching positions and establishing clear lines of responsibility and accountiblility.
Stop whining over Hue Jackson. Just because the Raiders threw a couple of nice TD passess and that contrasts with the JaBustus area..does not make that offense all world.
I saw an offense that got a lot of “garbage time” stats….and offense that would seize up in the 2nd half of most games…an offense that couldn’t put the ball in the end zone.
It wasn’t all that great….just average.
And Hue was a below the line coach….as can be seen by his demand in the marketplace.
If Hue was a can’t miss find…Reggie would have kept him.
And Hue would still have job if he knew how to win.
Any fool can go 8-8
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
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If its so easy to finish .500+, how come we had to go an entire decade with sub .500 record??
If any fool can go 8-8, then how come 1/2 the league finish with a sub .500 record?!?! Are they retarded?!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:15 am
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
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You should follow your own advise
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!!!!!
R McKenzie who I like a lot is still a rookie, so he is not a proven GM.
Allen: Rookie HC who is well respected in the NFL, but hasn’t accomplished anything to earn that much respect as a HC. How many great OCs/DCs fail as HCs?!?!
Knapp’s offense is known for having below avg passing game. Then this rookie DC, who was only a DC for ONE year at Stanford!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Doesn’t anyone proof read or edit these posts? I hope the fish wrap isn’t as choppy.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Advice*
Feel better?
February 5th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I totally forgot about Curtis Martin. I have watched a lot of football, and the fact that I didn’t remember who Curtis Martin was means he probably didn’t belong in the Hall of Fame before Tim Brown.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Raider O,
8-8 is no heroic accomplishment in any given year. The Broncos went 8-8. The Chargers have made a franchise of going 8-8. 8-8 is a failure among most fan bases.
The reason the Raiders have failed to come close to that mark the last decade has to do four things in my opinion:
1. Al Davis was limited in the talent of coaching he could bring in AND there was high coach turnover
2. Several free agents (some still on the team) did not play to the money and trust Al Davis invested in them
3. The Raiders failed to accumulate enough good young players in their prime due to bad drafts and trading picks for over-the hill vets
4. The structure in Oakland under Davis appears to have blurred the lines of accountability and may have had an overly negative impact on player discipline
February 5th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Raider O,
The issue isn’t experience with Reggie McKenzie, Dennis Allen or any of these assistants.
The bonus is that these are all guys that were well regarded around the league. These are guys that were considered as SERIOUS candidates for similiar positions around the league.
Rarely do you get an experienced head coach/GM that just comes available. Unless they were not successfull in previous stops. Most coaches and GMs start new…thats how new talent gets developed.
The marketplace says these are good candidates.
Good enough for me.
Clean house Reggie!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:45 am
And I am sure that Mark Davis, Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen have aspirations to be playing in games like later tonight….than pat themselves on the back on a shoddy 8-8 record
February 5th, 2012 at 7:48 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:41 am
4. The structure in Oakland under Davis appears to have blurred the lines of accountability and may have had an overly negative impact on player discipline
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THIS. I saw Romanowski on CSN a few days ago and he said that when he played there, everybody knew it was really Al’s team and it didn’t much matter if the coaches were happy with you or not; as long as Al was on your side, you didn’t have to worry about anything.
It is in no way a bad thing that this “structure” is gone, replaced by a head coach with absolute power, a GM who’s got his back, and an owner who stays out of the way. This is how successful teams are run.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Let’s not get things mixed up around here.
We are talking about an 8-8 record in a division with:
Tim Tebow at QB
A KC team without Cassell, Charles or their safety
A San Diego team that was in the wilderness all year
Plus games against bottom feeder teams like Cleveland, Buffalo, Miami, Chicago (without Cutler) and Minnesota (without Pederson).
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:55 am
OK I am getting sick of this Raiders will start to run a ZBS crap. Why? Because I have NFL rewind and you can watch certain plays and you can see the 2011 Oakland Raiders doing what – running a ZBS. Now don’t get me wring they power block the majority of times but a Coach that just zone blocks is giving away the element of surprise and diversity and giving the Defense an advantage it does not need – offensive predictability.
I know Cable was interviewed once and he said even the Texans do not run a pure ZBS which means they mix in power blocking. I think we get all held up on this issue. Our current lineman like Veldeer, Wisnewski, Sattlle and definitely Carlise can all ZB. That leaves maybe one lineman that might be in trouble if we do this more often. Last I checked you can get a RB out in space with a ZBS and that is what DM needs not necessarily a power blocking system. My prediction is DM stays and he is going to catch a lot more passes and be in space with safeties a lot more which will help him stay healthy!
While I wanted Hue to have another chance under a real GM and with his own staff, I am a little surprised that he has not even got an OC offer yet that we know of. I think that says something. Al Saunders is not exactly a hot commodity either.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:56 am
RaiderDuck,
YOu are right…the B.S behind the scenes did not make the Raiders. Dominating on the field made the Raiders.
Leading the league in false starts, neutral zone violations, holds and encroachment are not tough penalties.
GEtting smashed on the ground game is not Raider football.
I could go on.
Hue Jackson has thankfully been moved on.
New GM, New Coach…and soon….a lot of new players.
They are going in the right direction!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Lol @ Belichik. He’s got half the team listed as questionable for tonight’s game.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:06 am
….a lot of new players.
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Backups and STs players, yeah.
Depth.
90% or more of the starters from last year will be back.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:15 am
S&B,
The “Marketplace” said Josh McDaniels was a good candidate. Did that work well for Denver?
Rookies make mistakes, and I don’t want a lot of mistake that can cost us our division. No one is happy with 8-8, but most fans see progress when their team improve from 4-12 & 5-11 to 8-8 for 2 consecutive years despite bad coaching, lack of discipline, and Injurues.
Some fans display blind trust due to a lot of reasons:
1- they are sick of losing and they want a fresh start with anyone.
2- some want change regardless of it being an upgrade or not.
3- some are happy that Al is gone
4- some think R McKenzie walks on water.
I like R McKenzie, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to trust every decision made by him and Alken who I also like. Did you trust every decision made by Al?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:25 am
The Facts are:
1- R McKenzie hasn’t done much with us to earn that much respect and credibility.
2- Allen is a rookie at the HC position, so we don’t know what he is capable of doing or accomplishing.
Some show blind trust and while others like to question and analyze!
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Jhill — It will be interesting to see how the roster plays out….I think you will see some turnover
Raider O — The marketplace isn’t perfect…that’s for sure. See my post on the Raiders 8-8. I don’t think it was all that remarkable.
Baselining improvement to anything related to the JaBust, McCown, Walter era is misguided.
Its very hard to get that bad. That entire situation was the result of Davis yielding to some of his worst impulses, a coach in Kiffin who had no business being paired with Davis and JaBust…the biggest, most collosal BUST in the history of sports. The guy didn’t even try.
Will Reggie and co. make mistakes…sure. But getting critical and negative on them this early seems shortsighted to me.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Also, the best time to make “change” is when you first takeover.
Reggie should build it his way since he’s in charge. Not build it on a shaky foundation of panic trades, underachieving veterans, hobbled opponents and a questionable coach.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Hue Jackson is still unemployed? Why?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:29 am
and don’t forget the bed-n-breakfast offense…or the Breshnahan defense….somethings are just a byproduct of overall dysfunction
February 5th, 2012 at 8:32 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Hue Jackson is still unemployed? Why?
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Hue Jackson would have a job if wasn’t for his personality.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:32 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Hue Jackson is still unemployed? Why?
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Because no HC wants to pull a knife out of his back. Brutus and Cassius had nothing on this guy.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:38 am
90%??? That seems a little high.
That would mean only two changes. I am pretty sure Barnes and CJ/Lito won’t be starting, and I am sure there will be a few others.
Maybe Boss, our safeties, and even an OLB.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:41 am
The Facts are:
1- R McKenzie hasn’t done much with us to earn that much respect and credibility.
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He hasn’t done anything to lose any respect or credibility either.
Dennis Allen will be a massive upgrade over Hue Jackson, by about week 5 next year.
Give him a month to iron out a few wrinkles.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:41 am
For all the Hue lovers who think he should have been given a another year with a new DC. If we are denied permission now from other teams, where do you think Hue would have come up with a new DC. Beside seeing Hue in his pressers no one would have probably wanted to coach under him. So now the Raiders have to rely on new fresh young coaches and we should all wish them all the best. We really needed to rid ourselves of the old Al stanks and also can get rid of most of the defensive players as far as I am concerned.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:42 am
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Report-Raiders-interested-in-Stanfords-T?blockID=645310&feedID=5885
It was reported last night that he HAD accepted the job. Either the reports were inaccurate, or (more likely) the NFL’s asking teams to not announce anything until after Super Sunday.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Great point JohnnyRaider.
Hue would have had very little options in a willing DC, after throwing his previous one and players under the bus to end the season.
He probably would have just elevated Wauffle, or someone like that, who had zero experience calling defensive plays.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Adam Schefter
Commissioner Roger Goodell told ESPN’s Mike and Mike that, after what he saw last Sunday, the NFL will consider eliminating the Pro Bowl.
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Thank goodness for that. As system-oriented as the NFL is, an all-star game makes zero sense.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:44 am
How about the 505 representing over the 209 last night in UFC?
That guy went to the same high school as my wife.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Those Pro Bowl players should be proud of themselves.
Because of their unwillingness to exert even about 20% effort, they are going to screw the fine people of Hawaii out of all kinds of revenues and their typical annual boost to the economy.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Why do you guys keep talking about Hue when some of us question some of the decisions made by Reggie or Allen?
I don’t care if Hue is employed or not? I care about my Raiders.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:58 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Let’s not get things mixed up around here.
We are talking about an 8-8 record in a division with:
Tim Tebow at QB
A KC team without Cassell, Charles or their safety
A San Diego team that was in the wilderness all year
Plus games against bottom feeder teams like Cleveland, Buffalo, Miami, Chicago (without Cutler) and Minnesota (without Pederson).
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
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2 points here:
- You said before anyone can go 8-8, how many rookie HC win 8 games in their first season?.
And…
Raise your standards you say…
Ok then, what should we consider a good season in 2012?.
What does Dennis Allen, who I really like, has to accomplish in his first year?.
From your words, he has to be better than 8-8 right? anyone can get 8 wins according to you, even a first time coach.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:59 am
286.Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:25 am
The Facts are:
1- R McKenzie hasn’t done much with us to earn that much respect and credibility.
2- Allen is a rookie at the HC position, so we don’t know what he is capable of doing or accomplishing.
Some show blind trust and while others like to question and analyze!
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!!!
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O,
SnB detailed how he feels the standard has been raised. You have second-guessed just about everything so far, and now are mocking his insistence that Raider satisfied that things are going in the right direction should “raise their standards”.
Other than that, you’ve said nothing concrete about how YOU feel the standard should be raised. Within the scope of reason, what are YOUR ideas?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:59 am
*Raider FANS, sorry.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Dennis Allen will be a massive upgrade over Hue Jackson, by about week 5 next year.
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Based in what? Hopes & dreams!!
Don’t get me wrong. I like Allen & Reggie a lot (not Knapp & One year wonder Tarver), but I’m not willing to trust everything they do.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Based in what?
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Based on the fact that Hue was a hack of NFL HC with horrible game management.
What we were after 5 games with Hue? 3-2 and leading the league in penalties?
We will be 3-2 or 4-1 at that point next year, and out of the top 5 in penalties.
Book it!!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Anything less than a division title (or at least a 10-6 wild card berth) will be a disappointment in my eyes.
Even 9-7 without a playoff berth would be disappointing.
I said Hue would and should have been kept if Al were still around. Allen should return in 2013, just as long as we are not 6-10 or worse.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I refuse to say Allen is better than any other coach we had till he does something, and prove to US that he is better than Hue, Cable, Norv, Etc….
February 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Vegas has spoken.
What about you SnB?.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:08 am
I don’t believe this is a one step back for two step forwards situation.
Our last 4 head coaches (Shell, Kiffin, Cable and Hue) were HORRENDOUS NFL COACHES that will never be HC’s in the NFL again and held this team back, IMO.
I think Allen is going to ultimately be in a completely different class than that quartet, but time will tell.
Best year ever!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Anything less than a division title (or at least a 10-6 wild card berth) will be a disappointment in my eyes.
Even 9-7 without a playoff berth would be disappointing.
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I agree 100%.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Many say that we were only a defensive stop or two from the playoffs, and while that is true, we have to take it into context.
8-8, and 3-3 in the divison will not get you in the playoffs 98% of the time.
We just as easily could have been playing for nothing but pride down the stretch under most normal situations.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Other than that, you’ve said nothing concrete about how YOU feel the standard should be raised. Within the scope of reason, what are YOUR ideas?
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I was talking about fans increasing their standards in terns of hiring coaches. we already talked about this, and what I thought was the ideal situation for this team.
People are excited about Allen and some say in Allen & Reggie we Trust. I was wondering why, and why trust someone who hadn’t done anything for you/ your team.
Reggie never hired a HC before, so how do you know he made the right decision?
Allen never assembled his own NFL staff before, so why trust his choice?
February 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Who hasn’t*…..
February 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
JohnnyRaider Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:41 am
For all the Hue lovers who think he should have been given a another year with a new DC. If we are denied permission now from other teams, where do you think Hue would have come up with a new DC. Beside seeing Hue in his pressers no one would have probably wanted to coach under him. So now the Raiders have to rely on new fresh young coaches and we should all wish them all the best. We really needed to rid ourselves of the old Al stanks and also can get rid of most of the defensive players as far as I am concerned.
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He could’ve had Spags, Del Rio or any number of the good coordinators that were fired as HCes that were now free. At least for starters.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The thing is, people are claiming that we finished 8-8 because Hue Jackson can’t coach.
So the new staff is gonna come in with the same talent Hue had and a much better situation with a full training camp to get ready and no big time FA’s to replace (Nnamdi and Miller last year, even Gallery).
So what’s gonna happen if we get worst instead of better?.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:16 am
So, did we replace the genious that led us to over 6000 total yards, over 5 yards per carry, and a ridiculous amount of TD’s passing and rushing?
February 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Raider O, my post from earlier this morning was directed at Jerry & Steve.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:18 am
So what’s gonna happen if we get worst instead of better?.
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Massive disappointment and a HC on the hot seat going into 2013.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I don’t like Blind trust. I loved Mr. Davis, but I didn’t trust every decision he made. I know you guys didn’t, so why trust 2 rookies to make all the right decisions?
It makes no sense to me.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Other than that, you’ve said nothing concrete about how YOU feel the standard should be raised. Within the scope of reason, what are YOUR ideas?
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I was talking about fans increasing their standards in terns of hiring coaches. we already talked about this, and what I thought was the ideal situation for this team.
People are excited about Allen and some say in Allen & Reggie we Trust. I was wondering why, and why trust someone who hadn’t done anything for you/ your team.
Reggie never hired a HC before, so how do you know he made the right decision?
Allen never assembled his own NFL staff before, so why trust his choice?
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I don’t mind the choice of Allen as HC. I haven’t seen enough material to really love the choice, but no reason to really be against it.
I’m really really against the Knapp hiring. I’d love to be proved wrong and to say that somehow magically Knapp has changed his ways from his last 3 stints as Offensive Coordinator. At least if he had some good years and some bad I’d say it’s okay, but he never in 8 years finished above #16. That’s like ALWAYS in the bottom half of the league. Including teams that had good personnel (you can’t say that Vick sucks when he also had a very good RB there). He just didn’t work out how to use them. He wasn’t creative. He didn’t work out the best utilization and they ALWAYS ended up towards the bottom in the league in total yards, passing yards and points scored. The ONLY thing he has ever done was have running yards.
But, these days the top running teams mostly don’t make the playoffs (yes, over 50% of the top 10 running teams did NOT make the playoffs).
February 5th, 2012 at 9:19 am
He could’ve had Spags, Del Rio or any number of the good coordinators that were fired as HCes that were now free. At least for starters
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ZERO chance those guys turn down an offer to coach with Jeff Fisher and John Fox to hope aboard Hue Jackson’s staff.
Get real.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Marley Bob Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The thing is, people are claiming that we finished 8-8 because Hue Jackson can’t coach.
So the new staff is gonna come in with the same talent Hue had and a much better situation with a full training camp to get ready and no big time FA’s to replace (Nnamdi and Miller last year, even Gallery).
So what’s gonna happen if we get worst instead of better?.
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I know for SURE our defense is going to get better. No doubt. Anyone could make that defense better.
But, how much will our offense regress? It shouldn’t regress at all. It has a very good QB, RB and now WRs that are more experienced and have spent some time together.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:19 am
He could’ve had Spags, Del Rio or any number of the good coordinators that were fired as HCes that were now free. At least for starters
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ZERO chance those guys turn down an offer to coach with Jeff Fisher and John Fox to hope aboard Hue Jackson’s staff.
Get real.
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Absolutely they would. It was damned near a playoff team. And they wouldn’t wait for other offers. John Fox wouldn’t have an opening if we didn’t hire Allen. Come on!
February 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
And believe me, no one is rooting harder for Reggie than me, but it’s only fair to question his decisions until proven right, no blind trust here.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:21 am
We will not get worse if we fire DMAC. Period.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Again,
I’m not against Reggie and Allen.
I wanted Reggie to be our GM, and I thought Allen was a good hire (young, talented, and well respected in his field). That doesn’t mean I’m willing to trust every decision made by them.
It’s not rocket science. It’s very simple.
I like you, but you have to earn credibility.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:22 am
You earn credibility with actions, wins and losses, etc….
February 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
DMAC is a glaring example to the other young players that if you get PAID your megamillions you can quit during a playoff race. You can refuse pain meds. And nothing will happen to you.
To get the rest of the team to play hard DMAC must be sacrificed. Trade him to Minny to sit behind a real RB.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Anyways, the question is, can our defensive be improved enough to overcome how much our offense will probably get worse. Probably it can because we had the worst defense that we’ve had in years (probably one of the worst EVER on a Raiders team).
So, really if we don’t make 9-7 or 10-6 then we did worse than we would’ve done keeping Hue and getting a real defensive coordinator.
Heck, maybe we will, because our offense does have weapons. I just think the Knapp will switch everything and not utilize them like they could.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:25 am
RadierZMaverick,
Hue has earned a reputation, OBVIOUSLY, by the fact he performed well offensively here, and can’t find a job, and is being turned down for low-level offensive position jobs.
To think former HC’s would come join his staff is laughable.
He would have elevated Wauffle.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Carl,
It’s all good bro. I don’t mind improving my writing skills. I need all the help I can get.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Does it matter that the whole offense is designed to rely on you? No. Not if your foot is sore.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:26 am
That’s the main thing I”m against so far. They let Hue go…okay, fine. They brought in Allen. Fine also. Looks like it could(ul) turn out okay.
But, they bring in Knapp…you know where that one goes. It’s not like he hasn’t been given the chance recently. He was OC for the Falcons, Raiders and Seahawks and the offenses SUCKED around him.
Our offense sucked also before we had a bright mind make good use of them. DMac was a total bust etc. etc.
Why is Houston’s defense suddenly going from the worst in the league to one of the top in the league suddenly when they get a new DC. Not a HUGE amount of shift in personnel. Sign a couple players. That’s not that big of a difference. It’s the coach that makes that. Earlier all their players sucked basically. Suddenly they’re good. Magic.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Reggie and Allen want to trade DMAC for another LS to be Condo’s backup!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
If we have any other players with DMAC’s agent, cut them too.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
But, how much will our offense regress?
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Your right, it won’t.
Points per game will go up next season, due to better red zone efficiency.
Hue’s offense stalled at money-time, consistantly. Red-zone, 4th quarters, final drives of games. Massive failure almost weekly.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
335.Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Reggie and Allen want to trade DMAC for another LS to be Condo’s backup!!!
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With my blessing.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Did you see Phily’s defense this year. Before they were always top 10, viscious, smart. This year they brought in a new coach who wasn’t so good at it. The pieces weren’t used well. Suddenly Nnamdi “sucks”.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
But, how much will our offense regress?
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Your right, it won’t.
Points per game will go up next season, due to better red zone efficiency.
Hue’s offense stalled at money-time, consistantly. Red-zone, 4th quarters, final drives of games. Massive failure almost weekly.
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Name the last time Knapp had an offense that produced more points than us last year?
February 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
I like how people are so certain the offense will be worse. As if Hue’s offense was the model of consistency.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Dmac with pain meds is still rusty, hasn’t taken game-level contact in two months, and can’t make a defensive stop vs lions or chargers.
We didn’t even need dmac down the stretch. We needed a D stop.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
…or put up more yards…
February 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Having a elite RB doesn’t guarantee a team a spot in the playoffs. Just look at the two teams in the bowl. Superstar RBs don’t mean squat when all is said and done. It’s about the coaches and the offensive schemes put in place.
Belichick could get to the Super Bowl with Gary Coleman as the starting RB.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
I like how people are so certain the offense will be worse. As if Hue’s offense was the model of consistency.
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Look at the statistics.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Let’s be frank: my Condo rants are tongue-in-cheek.
Post 329 is dead serious.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:30 am
THERE ARE NO GUARNTEE’S IN THIS LEAGUE.COULD HAVE THE “DREAM-TEAM” OF A COACHING STAFF,AND STILL HAVE A TEAM THAT DOES NOT WIN 4 WHATEVER REASON.HAVE 2 HAVE THE RIGHT MIX OF COACHES AND PLAYERS TO MAKE THINGS WORK.WONT KNOW WHAT WE HAVE UNTIL WE SEE THINGS PLAY OUT.JUST THE WAY IT IS..
February 5th, 2012 at 9:30 am
alex7 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
We didn’t even need dmac down the stretch
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Why would the D play hard if DMAC can quit with no repurcussions? Our D acted like they were playing in the Pro Bowl.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
YA
People remember our constant 30th ranked O before Hue showed up. Their worry is at least based on reality. He got career-best seasons from dmac and jc.
Palmer and dmac’s health next year will be key.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
LOL @ Bo.
Why do you think DMAC didn’t have injury problems at ARK? He had a good amount of carries there.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
A real coach would punish DMAC like Ocho got his.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
LOL @ Bo.
Why do you think DMAC didn’t have injury problems at ARK?
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Because the biotch was working hard to get paid in the NFL.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:32 am
alex7 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
YA
People remember our constant 30th ranked O before Hue showed up. Their worry is at least based on reality. He got career-best seasons from dmac and jc.
Palmer and dmac’s health next year will be key.
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Not only that, but I’m also ranting about Knapp’s production record. Consistantly towards the bottom in the league in scoring and passing. 8 years in a row.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Our D played that way all year.
PAIN MEDS DON’T CHANGE THE FACT HIS FOOT TENDONS WERE WEAK AND HIS RB ABILITY LOW AT THAT TIME.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I hear you Bo. I’m getting tired of all the foot Injurues too, but I can’t let him go. He is too good when he is healthy.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Look at the statistics.
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The statistics of what? When Knapp has a season with this Oakland Raiders team, with this personnel, then the statistics will matter.
Until then? All conjecture.
Knapp was more successful from 2001-2003 in San Fransisco than Hue was in either of his previous stints as an NFL offensive coordinator before coming to Oakland. What does it mean? Nothing.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Name the last time Knapp had an offense that produced more points than us last year?
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Apples to oranges. I will show you one in about 11 months.
But if you want, we can compare Knapp’s 2006 ATL offense (12th in yards, 24th in points) to Hue’s 2007 ATL offense (23rd in yards, 30th in points).
February 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Dmac: “wow, I don’t feel pain! Still can’t cut or accelerate worth a ++++ though!”
February 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
#356, no, look at his stats at his last 3 gigs.
He not only sucked with Oakland. I wouldn’t only take that into account…because although he could’ve done better (I mean he was #32 in the NFL here), he also was given a bad hand.
But, look at the last 8 years as OC. Not just Oakland. Look at Atlanta. Look at Seattle.
The NFL has changed a lot since 2001-2003. He didn’t catch up to the changes.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:38 am
maverick
I know for SURE our defense is going to get better. No doubt. Anyone could make that defense better.
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It has to, right?.
I’m not sure people get how bad it was, the “Defense” made history last year:
- Raiders 6th team since merger to allow 4000+ yds passing, 2000+ yds rushing in a season.
- Not since the 1950’s had a team allowed 30+ TD passes and 5+ ypc in a season, the 2011 Raiders and Bucs did it, Tampa finished 4-12, we managed to go 8-8 thanks to Hue’s offense.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Kevin Gilbride “sucked” in Jacksonville, San Diego, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo. Now his offense is the main reason the Giants will be playing in the Superbowl today.
Statistics from previous teams mean absolutely nothing. Not for Hue Jackson, not for Greg Knapp, not for any NFL coach.
The only thing that matters is their ability to get the most out of the players they have on their roster. Until Knapp gets a chance to work with this Raiders offense, the jury will be out. I’m not making any assumptions.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Name the last time Knapp had an offense that produced more points than us last year?
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Apples to oranges. I will show you one in about 11 months.
But if you want, we can compare Knapp’s 2006 ATL offense (12th in yards, 24th in points) to Hue’s 2007 ATL offense (23rd in yards, 30th in points).
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Hmmm…you’re right about that. Hue sucked it up for the 2 years that he was OC before he came here.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:42 am
We averaged 22.4 points per game last year.
Knapp’s offense scored 21.4 and 21.9 two of years in Atlanta.
Pretty much the same.
And yards are skewed a little with the new offensive production.
In all of Knapp’s years as an OC, only once (2009) did any other NFL team average 397+ yards a game. Last year, 4 teams did that.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Also, Knapp will be a benefactor of a new found discipline in this team, and won’t have as many drive-killing penalties.
Not saying that Knapp will be the cause of that, or that Hue was the sole cause as well.
But it certainly will help our offense.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Palmer is also a better QB than Knapp has ever had. I still don’t think Palmer is “elite”, but he’s definitely better than Jeff Garcia and Michael Vick before he learned to pass the ball ( I still think Vick is massively overrated).
February 5th, 2012 at 9:45 am
About Greg Knapp.
Obviously not a popular choice, it seems to me he’s a fine coach, a student of the game and very detailed in his preparation, all in all a knowledgeable offensive mind.
But, play-calling is an art, it’s not enough to be prepared for the opponent’s Defense, you have to get into a rythm and make the right call on 50 or 60 downs
Seems to me, from afar obviously, that Knapp can coach and probably draw a fine game-plan but maybe he’s just not a good play-caller.
Let’s hope I’m dead wrong.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Hue sucked it up for the 2 years that he was OC before he came here.
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That’s been my point.
The talent here is more than anything Hue had previously, and will also hold true for Knapp as well.
I think there are PLENTY of coaches that can get us to 22 points per game, and any type of top-flight OC would and should be disappointed with 22 ppg with this type of talent.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Palmer is also a better QB than Knapp has ever had. I still don’t think Palmer is “elite”, but he’s definitely better than Jeff Garcia and Michael Vick.
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That’s true, this is the most talented offense Knapp’s had since his 49er days.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Let’s not assume that a new coach is all we needed to change the discipline/penalty problem. Hue and kiffin also were guts who expected intelligent play.
It will take at last 2 years of drafts and free agency to turn over enough of the roster and get real results.
Don’t forget to officials we are still the raiders and still wear black.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
And I know it was a long time ago, and shouldn’t hold too much water, but Knapp’s offense in SF from 01-03, outscored our offense last year EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Good Morning Nation! Happy Super Sunday!
February 5th, 2012 at 9:54 am
So in total, Knapp has been an OC 9 years (didn’t call plays though his 2 years here), and he outscored our 2011 offense 3 times, pretty much the same twice, and below production 4 times.
So pretty safe to assume off that, that our offense will be right about the same in 2012 than 2011 on the whole.
Get less flags, and a few more red zone TD’s and we should easily outproduce it.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Yeah, the thing about Knapp is it’s not just about the personnel he has. It’s his horrid vanilla predictable play calling through out is WHOLE OC career and it’s unlikely that all of a sudden it will change. OC’s and DC’s have identities. ie: Blitz happy, zone guys, pass happy, run heavy, creative, gamblers(Hue) ext ext
February 5th, 2012 at 10:05 am
It’s his horrid vanilla predictable play calling through out is WHOLE OC career
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Whole career?
Again, not as pertinant as recent history, but his 01-03 run in SF produced top 10 offenses (some top 3) in points and yards per game EVERY SEASON, and was more productive in points per game than we were last year EVERY SEASON.
I’ll take anything close to that, no matter how “vanilla” it is.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:12 am
here it is a few days after National Rodent Shadow Day and many of you are complaining about coaches who haven’t even gone through an OTA with their players yet let alone won or lost a regular season contest.
at which point does being a semi-pro fortune teller seem a bit silly?
coulda got Lamont Jordan to coach RBs, JaWalrus to coach QBs, Kwame Brown to coach OL, Terdell Sands to coach DL, Elvis Patterson to coach DBs and Stryker Sulak to coach LBs…then I woulda understood all the whining going on
February 5th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I want to wait until OTA’s until making an opinion. Gag order must have come down from Captain Kangaroo on the players. Not even a leak.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:05 am
It’s his horrid vanilla predictable play calling through out is WHOLE OC career
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Whole career?
Again, not as pertinant as recent history, but his 01-03 run in SF produced top 10 offenses (some top 3) in points and yards per game EVERY SEASON, and was more productive in points per game than we were last year EVERY SEASON.
I’ll take anything close to that, no matter how “vanilla” it is.
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Way different era.
Yeah for the Raiders 2001 was the tuck rule game and in 2002 they were in the super bowl. Things have changed.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Your the one who said “whole career”.
Don’t write a check if your not prepared to cash out.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:18 am
You put it in all caps for effect, lol.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:18 am
JFB, here’s my thing. Knapp has pretty much stuck to his zone blocking scheme. He’s stuck to a run first offense. Last year our offense took a step back compared to what it would’ve been if remotely healthy (I mean honestly who has ever seen a QB come from retirement and then have a good year mid season). He threw for 400 yards when he has Ford, Moore & DHB in the lineup…and that was with a worn-out Bush.
I am just worried that Knapp seems to want to get his players to fit his system even if he doesn’t have the players.
But, I can ease up a bit on it. Maybe a light turns on when Knapp sees that our WRs are not posession WRs, don’t run the best routes, but are explosive as hell. And when he sees the deep-ball that Palmer throws and then looks at him when he tries to throw on the run, and decide to implement a different type of system than he’s used to. And he sees what kind of a weapon we have a FB, and how McFadden could probably be used out of the slot catching balls more…
It can happen. My only concern was that even having Vick he didn’t really work out how to use him, when he was a weapon. And, that he puts a HUGE premium on the run game, when these days that hasn’t been the most successful thing in the league recently.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Anything less than a division title (or at least a 10-6 wild card berth) will be a disappointment in my eyes.
Even 9-7 without a playoff berth would be disappointing.
I said Hue would and should have been kept if Al were still around. Allen should return in 2013, just as long as we are not 6-10 or worse.
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We could probably go 2-14 next year and Chubby Checker won’t get rid of Allen. That’s “his guy” now and if things don’t go well don’t expect RM to pull the plug on the head coach. He’ll tear the roster to shreds before ever doing that because the perceived performance of the head coach will be how CC gets judged from here on out.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Have a nice sunday people.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am
We could probably go 2-14 next year and Chubby Checker won’t get rid of Allen.
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I highly doubt that.
And we won’t go 2-14, so knock that nonsense off.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am
The game has changed a lot since 2001-2003. It was a rushing league then. CBs could bump and run a lot more. Meant that passing wasn’t at as much of a premium. If you could run and control the game you probably could win. Many of the top teams were rushing teams…so his style was perfect.
Now, it’s a totally different league. I just hope that with the weapons he adapts a bit.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am
We could probably go 2-14 next year and Chubby Checker won’t get rid of Allen.
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I highly doubt that.
And we won’t go 2-14, so knock that nonsense off.
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I doubt we will. All I’m saying is that 8-8, 7-9, 6-10, whatever will not get Allen fired after one year. He’ll get at least three years regardless of performance.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
JFB, I still think Saunders would’ve gotten more out of this offense…but I can move on. Hope we find a good DC so even if we do a conservative Run-first offense we can still control games like Baltimore and SFO (the only two teams that are really successfully implementing that these days).
February 5th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Knapp needs to deviate from the script, no doubt.
And I think he will to some extent, in the passing game and not as much in the running game.
This isn’t going to be a dink and dunk offense. Dennis Allen said he wants an aggressive, up-tempo offense.
I’m sure he told Knapp this as well, and I can’t see Knapp saying “OK, sure will coach” than draw up a game filed full of 3 yard passes.
But in the running game, we will run more ZBS like we did in 2010 (and were very effective) and get a true blocking, road-grading FB.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:26 am
All I’m saying is that 8-8, 7-9, 6-10, whatever will not get Allen fired after one year
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Nor should he. 6-10 will definately put him on the hot seat going into 2013 though.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Raiderzmaverick Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am
The game has changed a lot since 2001-2003. It was a rushing league then. CBs could bump and run a lot more. Meant that passing wasn’t at as much of a premium. If you could run and control the game you probably could win. Many of the top teams were rushing teams…so his style was perfect.
Now, it’s a totally different league. I just hope that with the weapons he adapts a bit.
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True. A record 10 QB’s threw for over 4,000 yards this year. I hope Knapp noticed this. 7 made it to the playoffs. 2 are in the Super bowl today.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:28 am
http://youtu.be/hQ_fkc4I6lk
Here’s our new DC (probably). I LIKE THIS GUY.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:23 am
… This isn’t going to be a dink and dunk offense. Dennis Allen said he wants an aggressive, up-tempo offense.
I’m sure he told Knapp this as well, and I can’t see Knapp saying “OK, sure will coach” than draw up a game filed full of 3 yard passes.
But in the running game, we will run more ZBS like we did in 2010 (and were very effective) and get a true blocking, road-grading FB.
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Take comments made by coaches in an introductory press conference with a grain of salt. How do you think it’d go over if Allen said “We’re going to run a conservative, ball control offense to lighten the load on my defense.”
And does your last comment mean you think we will not make an effort to bring back Marcel Reece?
February 5th, 2012 at 10:29 am
The last time Knapp had anything resembling the talent we have on offense was in SF.
Different era???
Yeah, it EASIER to pass now with the rules being what they are.
Offense won’t skip a beat.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:29 am
JFB,THAT IS WHY THE HUE SUPPORTERS R SAYING I THINK.MAYBE HUE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE “HOT-SEAT” 4 ANOTHER SEASON..
February 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Is it ok to talk about the 3-4 now that we have ANOTHER DC candidate who MIGHT run that system?
February 5th, 2012 at 10:31 am
And does your last comment mean you think we will not make an effort to bring back Marcel Reece?
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Marcel Reece is the best TE we have on the roster. Would be extra dumb to let him walk.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:33 am
This isn’t going to be a dink and dunk offense. Dennis Allen said he wants an aggressive, up-tempo offense.
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I don’t see what wrong with the so called dink and dunk.
I want to see DHB, Reece, DMac, Boss, and Ausberry used on the short underneath routes A LOT more than they have been.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:36 am
And does your last comment mean you think we will not make an effort to bring back Marcel Reece?
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I don’t think he will play much FB next year, whatever team he is on.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:38 am
JFB,THAT IS WHY THE HUE SUPPORTERS R SAYING I THINK.MAYBE HUE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE “HOT-SEAT” 4 ANOTHER SEASON..
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Maybe he should have been.
But that seat is always a little extra hot, when the GM is not the guy who hired you, and it would linger over a team that starts 2-3 more so than normal.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Reece is a lot like Monta Ellis.
A tweener, who can be a weapon and help score, but is stuck without a real position, and if he doesn’t have the ball in his hand, is pretty much useless.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Speaking of Reece.
There was an article about Justin Griffith and Greg Knapp:
“In Knapp’s offense, the fullback must think like a tailback just to block the right defensive player.
Instead of being assigned a specific player to block, the fullback must read the defense and react on the fly.
“It’s really important with our outside zone run game, where he is the lead guy,” Knapp said of the fullback.
“We teach our fullbacks to read it like the halfback. There are certain indicators based on the run call that’s being made. He has to see it the same way we want the halfback to see it, so he’ll lead that halfback to the right hole. He is kind of that floating guy, where if the defense overflows, he can cut back and clean up the backside.
“If they try to stunt inside, he makes that read and bounces it out and the running back follows him. So there’s a lot of burden on him in identifying what’s the correct path in the run game.”
Justin Griffith, Knapp’s FB for 6 seasons:
“I’ve been fortunate and blessed to be a part of this offense most of my career. It doesn’t beat you up. There aren’t a lot of isolations, power blocking and all that kind of stuff. We’re a zone-scheming team. And I get to catch the ball, too.”
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Griffith was no road-grader, he was kind of small actually but quite effective.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Is ShoNasty the 4-3 RDE we need to keep us in a 4-3?
Where do we get one from if that answer is no?
Do we move ShoNasty to LDE and play Wimbley at RDE full time?
February 5th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Ok, now I’m out, enjoy the game everyone.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:43 am
ShoNasty-Kelly-Seymour-Wimbley
Guess that makes Houston and Bryant the primary backups.
How does that starting unit hold up against the run?
February 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Griffith was no road-grader, he was kind of small actually but quite effective.
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Reece actually is 4 inches taller and 10 pounds heavier, but Griffith was a much more willing and productive blocker.
Not Reece’s fault entirely, he has is just learning the position, but I don’t think he will ever evolve into even a good blocker, as far as FB’s go.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Guess that makes Houston and Bryant the primary backups.
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Not bad depth, as both those guys might be better than the guys starting ahead of them.
Desmond Bryant needs to be on the field more often than not. I am not sure Shonasty as all that much better than him, if at all.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Yeah, I got to run and get everything ready for the game and hosting about 20+ people.
Good talk Nation.
Raider On
February 5th, 2012 at 10:56 am
If you have talent and a roster that’s in the upper half of the league….then anything less than the playoffs puts you on the hot seat.
So that would apply to Allen as well.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Kelly and Seymour in the middle would be more of the same ole stuff from the last 5 or 6 years.
I wouldn’t expect much in run defense…maybe some pass rush occassionally….
February 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am
About a week ago, I talked to an ex-all pro NFL player that was at the Falcons when Dennis Allen was there.
He was very complimentary of him. He said he reminded him a lot of Jon Gruden.
He told me we are going to love him.
Sounds like we got a real coach — finally.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Man, the PM crew is still complaining about the coaching changes? I’m not a big fan of reloading the coaching staff either, but complaing about it isn’t going to change things.
No team is going to let us gut their coaching staff, that’s just the way it is. I’m all on board and hopefully Reggie and Allen stumbled across some great up and comers.
The team is still intact, and Palmer, DMAC and our wide outs should be healthy. The D will be better just by getting rid of Chucky and plugging in some new players.
After spending a half hour in here, i may need to see a shrink. lol Where’s Beeecham with those Magnums in his head band? LOL This blog could use some humor.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Reece is a lot like Monta Ellis.
A tweener, who can be a weapon and help score, but is stuck without a real position, and if he doesn’t have the ball in his hand, is pretty much useless.
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Same is often said about Antonio Gates.
Blocking definitely isn’t Reece’s strong suit, but he’s a willing body to at least get on a defender and to me the matchup problems he presents defenses as an offensive weapon makes him very valuable to this or any team.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Deja vu Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:05 am
… No team is going to let us gut their coaching staff, that’s just the way it is. I’m all on board and hopefully Reggie and Allen stumbled across some great up and comers. …
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With that in mind, you’ve got to wonder if RM isn’t having second thoughts at this point about his decision to switch coaches. Probably would’ve been better off giving Hue at least one season with a legit DC. If we didn’t at least make the playoffs or Hue was causing problems I don’t think people would’ve begrudged him bringing in his own guy at that point.
That all assumes this was RM’s call as Mark Davis and RM have maintained all along. It could be possible they’re lying and Mark Davis demanded the change. We’ll probably never know for sure.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Chris In NY Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
With that in mind, you’ve got to wonder if RM isn’t having second thoughts at this point about his decision to switch coaches. Probably would’ve been better off giving Hue at least one season with a legit DC. If we didn’t at least make the playoffs or Hue was causing problems I don’t think people would’ve begrudged him bringing in his own guy at that point.
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Doubt it. One more season with Hue wasn’t going to improve the penalty situation, and Reggie would have to worry about a knife in his back at every turn. Better just to start fresh.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
RaiderDuck Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Chris In NY Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
With that in mind, you’ve got to wonder if RM isn’t having second thoughts at this point about his decision to switch coaches. Probably would’ve been better off giving Hue at least one season with a legit DC. If we didn’t at least make the playoffs or Hue was causing problems I don’t think people would’ve begrudged him bringing in his own guy at that point.
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Doubt it. One more season with Hue wasn’t going to improve the penalty situation, and Reggie would have to worry about a knife in his back at every turn. Better just to start fresh.
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Letting Hue have another year with a decent D cord would have been the smart thing to do. At least from most Raiders fans perspective. Actually that’s what most expected would happen. Now if the Raiders miss the playoffs or even worse go like 6-10 it will look really bad.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Not to revisit Hue Jackson but he did do one thing right. He actually asked DMAC “What plays make you successful?” HJ then put them in and away he went until he got injured. I’m hoping that the new offensive staff does the same thing.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
RaidO Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
RaiderDuck Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Chris In NY Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
With that in mind, you’ve got to wonder if RM isn’t having second thoughts at this point about his decision to switch coaches. Probably would’ve been better off giving Hue at least one season with a legit DC. If we didn’t at least make the playoffs or Hue was causing problems I don’t think people would’ve begrudged him bringing in his own guy at that point.
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Doubt it. One more season with Hue wasn’t going to improve the penalty situation, and Reggie would have to worry about a knife in his back at every turn. Better just to start fresh.
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Letting Hue have another year with a decent D cord would have been the smart thing to do. At least from most Raiders fans perspective. Actually that’s what most expected would happen. Now if the Raiders miss the playoffs or even worse go like 6-10 it will look really bad
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And it puts Allen and Knapp in a particularly tough spot.
If we don’t at least win the division Allen, as a rookie head coach, is going to be considered a failure.
Same goes for Knapp if we don’t have a top 5 or at least 6 or 7 offense. I’m not sure he’s ever had an offense produce at that level. Expectations for this team are much higher this time around than last time when he was stripped of playcalling duties.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Better to just get the new car…than hope that old rusty one can make it another year
February 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Not to revisit Hue Jackson but he did do one thing right. He actually asked DMAC “What plays make you successful?” HJ then put them in and away he went until he got injured. I’m hoping that the new offensive staff does the same thing.
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That speaks more to Cable’s suckiness as an OC. ANY good coordinator puts his players in position to make plays.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Not to revisit Hue Jackson but he did do one thing right. He actually asked DMAC “What plays make you successful?” HJ then put them in and away he went until he got injured. I’m hoping that the new offensive staff does the same thing.
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That speaks more to Cable’s suckiness as an OC. ANY good coordinator puts his players in position to make plays.
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Yep. No good offensive coordinator would end up #32 in the league in yards or points no matter what…ooh crap….Knapp did it TWICE?
February 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I actually was pretty happy the first time we hired Knapp. I’m gonna try to lay off him and give him another chance. At least until we see what he does this time around. Maybe wasn’t the smartest choice, but gotta start supporting…sigh…I remember saying that about the last couple Raider retread OC and DC’s…hope this one turns out better.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Hey anyone know a stream tonight for the superbowl.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Letting Hue have another year with a decent D cord would have been the smart thing to do. At least from most Raiders fans perspective.
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As soon as you say this, getting rid of Jackson is obviously the right thing to do. But seriously, you guys in here keep talking about whether Knapp and Allen can X and O, X and O, X and O. Of course they can X and O. I can X and O. I think some of the posters in here can X and O. The better question is can they lead this team?
You guys claim that Jackson did well for a rookie head coach. Well, technically I guess Jackson was a rookie head coach. But he was with the team the year before. He knew the players, their personalities, how they would react to certain situations. Allen and McKenzie have no idea how these guys are going to react to certain situations. The big question is can McKenzie and Allen lead? Even knowing the players, Jackson could not. I would expect a step backwards. Until some of the dead wood can be cut from the roster.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Not to revisit Hue Jackson but he did do one thing right. He actually asked DMAC “What plays make you successful?” HJ then put them in and away he went until he got injured. I’m hoping that the new offensive staff does the same thing.
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That speaks more to Cable’s suckiness as an OC. ANY good coordinator puts his players in position to make plays.
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Yep. No good offensive coordinator would end up #32 in the league in yards or points no matter what…ooh crap….Knapp did it TWICE?
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Where’d you get that from? The last time he had an offense with our level of weapons (SF a decade ago), he did quite well.
Here are his stats:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/KnapGr0.htm
February 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Que Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Hey anyone know a stream tonight for the superbowl.
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NFL.com is streaming it live. NFL.com is really a crappy site tho.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
long ways from home, i hope this is my last time having to not watch in american time zone. Some help would be much appreciated
February 5th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Where im at they block the nfl.com for playoffs and superbowl ,its funny because I actually have paid for years the 200 plus bones to watch the season online
February 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Here’s to Eli still shi((ing on the chargers and the tuck rule still waking me up at night.
Go Giants.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Not to revisit Hue Jackson but he did do one thing right. He actually asked DMAC “What plays make you successful?” HJ then put them in and away he went until he got injured. I’m hoping that the new offensive staff does the same thing.
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That speaks more to Cable’s suckiness as an OC. ANY good coordinator puts his players in position to make plays.
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The issue with McFadden in Cables offense was McFadden kept putting the rock on the ground. McFadden fumbled 8 times in 109 touches. THAT, was completely unacceptable. Fargas coughed it like 4 times in 400 touches. McFadden was coughing up the rock like 8 times the number Fargas was. And McFaddens protections were atrocious. That’s why he was under utilized his lst two years not the playcalling.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Que Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
long ways from home, i hope this is my last time having to not watch in american time zone. Some help would be much appreciated
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Is it P2P4U.com?? That might work.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Not to revisit Hue Jackson but he did do one thing right. He actually asked DMAC “What plays make you successful?” HJ then put them in and away he went until he got injured. I’m hoping that the new offensive staff does the same thing.
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That speaks more to Cable’s suckiness as an OC. ANY good coordinator puts his players in position to make plays.
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The issue with McFadden in Cables offense was McFadden kept putting the rock on the ground. McFadden fumbled 8 times in 109 touches. THAT, was completely unacceptable. Fargas coughed it like 4 times in 400 touches. McFadden was coughing up the rock like 8 times the number Fargas was. And McFaddens protections were atrocious. That’s why he was under utilized his lst two years not the playcalling.
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Also, remember that by DMac’s second season (2009), Knapp was already gone to Pugent Sound. So there’s no way he can be blamed for that.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Gov’t seized over 300 sites last week including FirstRow Watch Live.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Gov’t seized over 300 sites last week including FirstRow Watch Live.
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DID THEY REALLY????? Fukk them.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Seymour Bush thank you last time I need help because of blackout on nfl.com youhelp. Much appreciated and hey guys im so sick I just got done watching my oakland raiders history cds lol . Raiderfans were sick bunch
February 5th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Government seizes 307 illegal web sites before Superbowl http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/sports-domains-seized/
February 5th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Interesting. I just tried to post an alternative, and the post was blocked.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
nfl and sports like everything else so greedy. I mean how is it I pay over 200 dollars and find out the games being blocked its happened a few times. Miami game chicago and a few others. Greed , even the thought of more expansion. I mean Im happy about the nfl network hopefully you wont need a dish or go out to the local bar. You can watch it online for a free and not miss your squad ever. Go giants I hope that front for beats tom brady up no more superbowl wins im hoping. Its our turn guys in the future to reclaim whats the raiders. The laughing stock will and I do mean WILL come to and end
February 5th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RaidO Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
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Letting Hue have another year with a decent D cord would have been the smart thing to do. At least from most Raiders fans perspective. Actually that’s what most expected would happen. Now if the Raiders miss the playoffs or even worse go like 6-10 it will look really bad.
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Hue sucked as HC, so how is that smart?
He made so many stupid/moronic calls during the year, that alone should get him canned. Add into it he had no control, and no discipline means it’s an easy call.
He lied about when he put in Palmer game 1, and when he sat DHB and Boss.
Add to it that on almost every bad decision he made? I don’t recall him even once saying he was wrong. He actually stated he would make the same stupid call again, more than once.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
When Tom Brady mentioned last week that he watched last years SB on a free streaming site, that got the ball in motion to close sites down.
Way to go Tom.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Try http://ilemi.me for a stream of the game. Don’t know but I watched all Raider games there.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
firstrow is now .eu instead of .tv
February 5th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
That’s a European net registration. All .coms and .nets are U.S. domaines and the Gov’t can seize them.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I’m going home to watch the game. Wish it was the Raider’s.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I ll be here and much appreciated my brothas
February 5th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
I was thinking of getting gamepass for the upcoming season.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
QUE…..
Try the bbc websites.They’ve got the game on normal tv live.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RaidO Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
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Letting Hue have another year with a decent D cord would have been the smart thing to do. At least from most Raiders fans perspective. Actually that’s what most expected would happen. Now if the Raiders miss the playoffs or even worse go like 6-10 it will look really bad.
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Hue sucked as HC, so how is that smart?
He made so many stupid/moronic calls during the year, that alone should get him canned. Add into it he had no control, and no discipline means it’s an easy call.
He lied about when he put in Palmer game 1, and when he sat DHB and Boss.
Add to it that on almost every bad decision he made? I don’t recall him even once saying he was wrong. He actually stated he would make the same stupid call again, more than once.
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Double 00 is exactly right. Jackson wore Mike Bush out, he threw Carson in there with virtually no practice, and strangest of all Dmac injures himself on the very lst play of the KC game, goes into the locker room, runs out of the tunnel with his lid in his hand looking like he is going back in and we don’t see him again. ALL YEAR. Something didn’t add up there. Unless the players felt they were being poorly used and openly revolted. Given the way the season ended, that makes sense.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
308.Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I refuse to say Allen is better than any other coach we had till he does something, and prove to US that he is better than Hue, Cable, Norv, Etc….
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Allen is hands down better than Hue right now. Hasn’t said “obviously” one time.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Does Huey have a job yet? Didn’t think so.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Que Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Hey anyone know a stream tonight for the superbowl.
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NFL.com is streaming it live. NFL.com is really a crappy site
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At least they’re streaming it. You could be getting NOTHING. NFL.com is tied to NFL Network, and it beats nothing at all or firstrow sports (replete with pop-up ads every other play)
That kind of attitude is why SOPA nearly passed through Congress.
Be glad any content is on and just watch it. That streaming wont last forever.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Reggie would have been justified firing Hue for game management alone. Who can forget not kicking the FG against Cleveland and failing to go for two against Detroit ? Hue also opted to throw several hard to complete passes late in games (even on 3rd and 3 situations) when he should have been playing for a first down and running clock.
Some very poor decisions.
Then you add in the completely flat, dismal, might as well have not shown up, performances in Miami and GB – and it’s hard to make a case for keeping him on.
Despite all this, Hue MIGHT have survived, but he sealed his fate after the SD finale. Hue had to have known Mark Davis was bringing in a GM. Hue’s rant made him come off as power hungry and had to have raised doubts about his ability to successfully co-exist within a new organizational hierarchy.
Hue tried to back off from his post SD comments in subsequent interviews, but too late. The damage was done. Easy to understand why Davis let him go.
Off to the casino for what promises to be a fine SB party.
Giants 31
Patsies 17
Dump Slowlando.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Flooring…
[...]Stanford’s Tarver on Raiders’ radar? – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
February 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
As painful as it is,being an old AFL guy,got to root against the G-men.41-38 AFC.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Hello Nation!!
Another SB without our Raiders, SUCKS!
Tom B and Belicheat still owe some “Karma” debt for the “Tuck” Rule.
It will be paid off in full after today’s loss:
G-Men- 24
Cheatriots: 20
February 5th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I can’t root for either team today. I just hope it’s a good game.
I predict 31-23 Pats.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
452.lefty12 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
As painful as it is,being an old AFL guy,got to root against the G-men.41-38 AFC.
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The last orginal AFL franchise to win a Super Bowl other than the Patriots was, believe it or not, the Broncos in 1999.
We need to step it up!
February 5th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
OK Nation! Have a good Super Sunday! Got the grills fired up and beers are cold! TTy all laters!
February 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Raider O Says:
February 4th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
We have rookies at GM, HC, and DC. Not an ideal situation for a team that finished 8-8, and was trying to compete for the division
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And a rookie owner too going into his first season.
And BTW, I don’t give a rip snortin cats ass about this suppa boll cuz the Raidahs aint in it. So eff off the Giants and the Pats and a big eff off to madona, queen of the slutts.
February 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
First time blogger. Got a bold estimate on the game:
Giants 52
Pats 3, maybe 6
February 5th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
What’s wrong with sluts?
February 5th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Patriots are going to run away with this game.
February 5th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Patriots 31
Giants 23
February 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
715Raiders Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
First time blogger. Got a bold estimate on the game:
Giants 52
Pats 3, maybe 6
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That’s a pretty embarrassing way to start your blogging career.
February 5th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Flooring Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Flooring…
[...]Stanford’s Tarver on Raiders’ radar? – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…
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What can Allen do? teams blocked him from talking to Johnson, Manusky went to Indy and why would Donatel leave a fairly good group that was one game from the Super Bowl?
You have to have a track record for the better DC’s to come on board, no matter if Al Davis is there or not. All you can do is ponder in amazement that Whisenhunt couldn’t be allowed to select his group of coaches, etc.
February 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
715Raiders Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
First time blogger. Got a bold estimate on the game:
Giants 52
Pats 3, maybe 6
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That’s a pretty embarrassing way to start your blogging career.
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If its over the Pats, GOOD CALL, my man! But seriously, Brady probably won’t be denied this time around, and the Giants were talking WAY TOO MUCH this time.
sigh..Patriots.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Reggie would have been justified firing Hue for game management alone. Who can forget not kicking the FG against Cleveland and failing to go for two against Detroit ? Hue also opted to throw several hard to complete passes late in games (even on 3rd and 3 situations) when he should have been playing for a first down and running clock
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Yep, AND Hue would run the ball on 2nd and short to get the first down. Seems like an opportunity to go downfield when the defense is stacking the box…..Nope, not Hue.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
i cant believe it . but i may want the pats to win. and i despise brady . but im sick of the giants and their arrogant fans now. and brady is the 2nd greatest qb ever so ,, wut can u do ?
February 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
pats 31 -20 .. brady is a football god. matter fact . dude may throw 6 tds in this game. breaking records and crap .
February 5th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I wouldn’t bone that skinny country skank with Albert Puss’s mini weenie.
Hanging on the reggae party boat, getting high on stinky skunk weed and rocking my 5th margarita.
Oh yeah, and this hot bod Asian babe from Cal State Long Beach is rubbing my knee. Meaning, she’s only half an inch from the tip of my schlong-a-dong.
Should be rocking some sweet doggy style action by kickoff, just keeping it real.
Love to hear what you dorks are up to, can always use a good laugh
CERTIFIED PLATINUM POSSE N EFFECT
February 5th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
hue hue hue.. do yall want hue jackson back ? damn. let it go. why u all on hues nuts u just better hope that allen is some genius that can get the stupidest team in the league to show discipline.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Cheatriots must die
February 5th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
The Patriots getting booed for the introduction onto the field? This game is over before it even started.
Might as well give the trophy to Bill now and start getting the ring sizes ready.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Giants 30
Cheatriots 17
February 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Country is so wack. I wouldn’t smell Shania Twain’s box for all the margaritas in Cabo.
Any of you hicks got a problem with that, tell it to your tractor.
I gotta have an emergency meeting with the Certified Platinum Posse to delete the slide guitar track we put on “Gang Bangin’ Hos”, a hot joint on my upcoming album Wrecks N Effect
February 5th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
http://player.nbcsports.com/SNFPlayer.html?PID=61&referrer=http://t.co/WQCQIwCY
NBC has streaming online there.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Go Patriots! I don’t like New York teams.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Beeecham, if you are such a party animal, why are you posting during the Super Bowl?
February 5th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I hope Sterling Moore wins Super Bowl MVP.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
When did Bresnehan get hired by the Patriots?
February 5th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Albert you dumb goober – I’ve had wifi hooked up to my hot tub, the Ritz jacuzzi, my DJ station and the Party Boat for years.
The real question is how did Kung Fu Panda with your parents go last night? Did you pop your traditional boner during the scary parts?
February 5th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Good one Albert! LOL
February 5th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Congratulating yourself now, Twinkletoes?
February 5th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I wonder which alter Albert meant to sign into that time.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Albert is a funny guy.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Now look at him nervously trying to play it off
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Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Albert is a funny guy.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
My guess is Sullivan44. He loves using those two sock puppets to compliment each other
YoungAmerican Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I wonder which alter Albert meant to sign into that time.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Not too impressed with the commercials yet. The game is boring too. I think I might watch the Lord of the Rings special edition on blu ray.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Come on Albert, crack open a cold one and kick back with the homies.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
I’ve always thought Beecham was Sulli. Still do.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Morilla, he might be. I wouldn’t doubt it. Sullivan is a pretty talented guy. He must take method acting lessons or something.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person here who isn’t MR/Sulli/etc..
February 5th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
That’s because you’re an idiot
morilla Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
I’ve always thought Beecham was Sulli. Still do.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person here who isn’t MR/Sulli/etc..
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You may be.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
That’s because you’re an idiot
morilla Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
I’ve always thought Beecham was Sulli. Still do.
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Sorry, you’re not going to change my mind.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I think Beeecham is Brien.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I think Beeecham is Brien.
______________________________________________
ROTFLMAO.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Moronilla, I could care less about your sock puppet conspiracy theories.
While you sit around in your peanut butter stained jammies worrying about the identity of your favorite bloggers, I’ll be 69ing babes in the Captain’s Quarters.
Loser
February 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Hey Beecham, what are your pros and cons on the new APC Renaissance?
February 5th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Beeech, your party must be rocking hard. You barely have time to post your lame comments in here.
February 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I like the Doritos commercials..
February 5th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Beeech is partying with his sex dolls and his nerdy cousin.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
who still wouldnt have sex with madonna..? she could be 76 .. wed all still hit that
February 5th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
http://www.sockshare.com/file/5159E03A3118BD40#
this is so worth watching .
February 5th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
i bet madonna old experienced azz could suck the d.n.a off ya pole.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Doriangray Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
who still wouldnt have sex with madonna..? she could be 76 .. wed all still hit that
—————————————————————————————————————————Betcha Beech would…as for me, HELL 2 DA NO!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Would rather see some fat tits or badunka duk bouncing instead of modana, like young tender meat nt dry and old jerky.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Still waiting Beech, you wanna talk music gear let me know.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Beeech would do Betty White.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Albert, everyone is counting down the minutes until you forget which alias you’re using and congratulate yourself again.
Priceless.
Moronilla I know nothing about gear, my production team The Cerified Platinum Posse outfits my stage while I’m doing push ups in the Green Room.
As long as the 808 is pumping and I’m covered in Volcanic Tanning Oil, I’m straight
Go to Guitar Center or a Star Trek convention with SamBorg if you want a tech nerd out.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Ocho Cinco!
February 5th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I hope the rest of Goodie Mobb recieves some royalties for making Ce-Lo’s career.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I bet Bellichick was saving Ocho Cinco all season for this moment.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
5-6 years ago, Ce-Lo Green is singing backup on Trick Daddy tracks, now he is sharing the stage at halftime with Madonna.
Only in America
February 5th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
I LMFAO at the dink and. Dunk haters. Brady is about to dink another ring!
February 5th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
cee lo green made himself. well and the fact that he let quincy jones have anal sex with him . but goodie mob a bunch of drug addicted bums. he the most talented of that group.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Jack and the Box just pissed the self righteous crowd off.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
billromanowski Bill Romanowski
This is a critical poss for the #giants. Brady has gotten more comfortable than a hobo in cardboard. #Giants #patriots #superbowl
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February 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Albert, everyone is counting down the minutes until you forget which alias you’re using and congratulate yourself again.
Priceless.
Moronilla I know nothing about gear, my production team The Cerified Platinum Posse outfits my stage while I’m doing push ups in the Green Room.
As long as the 808 is pumping and I’m covered in Volcanic Tanning Oil, I’m straight
Go to Guitar Center or a Star Trek convention with SamBorg if you want a tech nerd out.
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You just proved yourself with me. You’re a fake.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
yea hjhill but brady is brady. & brady is surrounded by the belief of greatness. and a evil genius coach. u let the raiders try that. wont work .. cant do it .. ahh i miss bill callahan ..
February 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
*Jack in the Box
February 5th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
bill romo is such an idiot. although hes very honest and has tons of indide info. its like dugh.. this is a critical drive for the giants.. u dont say !!
February 5th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Sorry, but we could certainly spread things out, put Palmer in the shotgun, and isolate Reece and Boss against LBs.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Gee Moronilla, I’m gonna cry myself to sleep tonight because of your feelings
Goober, the next time you pleasure yourself to blog conspiracy theories and nerdy tech talk, hit up KrappyKell.
He’d love to trade links with you
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morilla Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Albert, everyone is counting down the minutes until you forget which alias you’re using and congratulate yourself again.
Priceless.
Moronilla I know nothing about gear, my production team The Cerified Platinum Posse outfits my stage while I’m doing push ups in the Green Room.
As long as the 808 is pumping and I’m covered in Volcanic Tanning Oil, I’m straight
Go to Guitar Center or a Star Trek convention with SamBorg if you want a tech nerd out.
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You just proved yourself with me. You’re a fake.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I think Beeecham is Brien.
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Hey Sully,
Why, when you stupidly forget who you’re posting as, and pull another brain fart, and get busted, do you then start with the nonstop saying “bee ch is brian” or “so and so , is so and so”?
reeks of desperation, not to mention it’s just plain weak.
I didn’t see your answer on the last time you had a date? With a woman. That’s not related to you.
February 5th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Good one Albert! LOL
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We know you can’t explain this, because we all know you are MR.
But for fun, why don’t you try?
Either explain it, or admit you’re a cross posting tool.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Albert posts for 3 hrs straight, from 2:30 to 5:30. then is caught cross posting, and immediately leaves.
Coward. Fool. Loser.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Notice how Beecham is gone as well?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
About the 10th knucklehead thing you’ve said today, Moronilla. Let’s go for 15!
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morilla Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Notice how Beecham is gone as well?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Yeah,but formerly is here and ole00 admitted his new name is RaiderweaponX.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Now I’m starting to think that besides his sock puppet MaddenRetard/Sullivan, Albert Puss is also Moronilla.
I mean seriously – who is this stupid?
Just keeping it real, party freaks
February 5th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Sweet. Go Giants
February 5th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Got to go peoples. Got my date at the door. Goin out for a double bacon cheese. It might not be an uptown place to go eat, but we’ll be downtowning after a milkshake.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Does Belichick look like he’s put on about 50 pounds or so?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
I like how spikes plays , you can tell the aggressiveness difference between him and McClain, we screwed up on that pick, we could of got MLB in the 2nd round instead of 8th over all.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Who ever made the call to cut Sterling Moore is an idiot!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Patriots get another non call against them. WTF
February 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Moore commits pass interference once again and doesn’t get called.If he was a Raider flags would fly every play-ie. Stan Routt.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
If brady wins this game, is he the greatest ever and the pattyroits the best ever? go giants!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
5-6 years ago, Ce-Lo Green is singing backup on Trick Daddy tracks, now he is sharing the stage at halftime with Madonna.
Only in America
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LOL
February 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Oh, hey there Albert/Sullivan/Morilla
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Roll the Pole Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Got to go peoples. Got my date at the door. Goin out for a double bacon cheese. It might not be an uptown place to go eat, but we’ll be downtowning after a milkshake.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
how the hell does brady escape that?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
sick
February 5th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I like C Lo Green. I like Crazy.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
O,you beat me to it,He should be a Raider,period.So,I say whomever put Him on the practice squad is a Jackarse,Idiot,Moron,and should be fired,probably Hue,whos already Fired.HaHa,not Funny,tho
February 5th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Gotta double date tonight, and I mean double trouble if you can dig my drift.
HOLLA WHEN YOU GET ROCKIN AND BALLA LIKE RABBITS
February 5th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
FormerlyGoodOle00 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Good one Albert! LOL
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We know you can’t explain this, because we all know you are MR.
But for fun, why don’t you try?
Either explain it, or admit you’re a cross posting tool.
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You losers sure are gullible. Can’t you tell when someone is f*cking with you.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
What are the giants playin chuck b prevent? wtf
February 5th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
LMAO Hendu!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
way to go chuck b defense on display. wtf
February 5th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
stop those pukriots. wtf
February 5th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
When someone is tackled by either of these teams there are numerous guys there.What a novel concept-gang tackling.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
play of the game comin up. right here.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Eli is not pulling it off this time.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
FFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Nice play!! Beat those Cheaters!!!
Let’s GO ELI!!!!
I will talk so much crap to charger fans, if Eli wins one more.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Yesssszszzzzzzz
February 5th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Eli is not pulling it off this time.
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Bullll schiittt he aint’.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
HHEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
yyyyyeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
February 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
That’s a Catch!!!!
I hope Billisacheat never wins another SB, and the other SB wins have the cheating issues!!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Raider Magic Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Eli is not pulling it off this time.
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Bullll schiittt he aint’.
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Sterling Moore will get an INT.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Hope he doesn’t.American Football League baby.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Thats a catch. If they reverse it, the cheatriots cheat again.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Stick it to Billisacheat!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
That’s a Catch!!!!
I hope Billisacheat never wins another SB, and the other SB wins have the cheating issues!!!!
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You don’t think Al Davis ever cheated?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Strlg Moore got burnt don’t feel bad now.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
If you aren’t cheating,you aren’t trying-Al Davis
February 5th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
I like AFC teams, but I can never support Pats, Ravens, SD, KC, and Denver.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Hey Beech, I’m not Sulli. People on here know that. I thought you were some big wig musician, producer type that knows music. I guess not.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
It may be time to let the Giants score a TD.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Albert, RMR, Sully, Alias,etc…
We are Raiders!! We do what ever the F we want. You will never understand it!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
AFL not AFC.Probably before your time.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
It may be time to let the Giants score a TD.
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Doesn’t mean the pats will score tho. Giants gonna milk it to a last second FG.
Yeah Baby!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Is it OK for the Raiders to cheat? Yes, it’s encouraged and expected!!!
Is it OK for the rest of the league to cheat? No!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Man some of these people in the commercials look like doofusses inside and out.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Fuk the pats glad they bout to choke on dic in a minute
February 5th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
We know the difference between the AFL and AFC you old goat. lol
I was sharing a thought. Is that OK?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Run the ball!!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
He couldn’t stop!!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
February 5th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Brady to Ocho Cinco for the win!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
patriots fumble.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
I’m just wondering.No matter the outcome of this game, in the pre-season I was arguing Eli was an elite QB and there were those on here who ridiculed me and said he couldn’t hold Campbell’s jock.What do those of you who said that have to say now?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
brady will choke. print it.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
February 5th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
O,even if you do know the difference,why do you have to act like such a jerk?
February 5th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Aint over yet.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Lefty,
I like watching old school football. AFL vs NFL.
GB vs KC
GB vs OAK
Ind vs Jets
February 5th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Talking QBs….
Thing I notice is that both Eli and Tom Brady were drafted by their original teams….not free agents looking for that last chance
February 5th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Lefty,
I like messing with you, but I will stop if it bothers you. I apologize.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
At least it was a good game.Congratulations Giants.
February 5th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Eat THAT Cheatriots!!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Guess playing good defense still DOES matter
February 5th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
February 5th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
i sure didnt see defenses win championships
February 5th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
ABP..anyone but patriots
February 5th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Thing I notice is that both Eli and Tom Brady were drafted by their original teams….not free agents looking for that last chance
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Eli was drafted by the Chargers.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
LOL @ALBERT
Correct you are.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Guess having an elite QB who can drive the length of the field in the final few minutes still DOES matter.Both teams were in the bottom half of defensive stats for the season.Both teams stepped it up in the post-season.Both teams had ELITE QBs.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Raider Nation thanks again for letting a brotha know where he could see the game. NOw the Real fun begins the building of our once proud team of the decades again
February 5th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
The NFL’s WORST rushing offense on the season just won the Super Bowl.
Trade D-Mac for a nickle back!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
boring superbowl.. madonna performance was great but who cares.. commercials good as usual but were older now, and its 2012 . whats gonna excite us now? but can u imagine if next years superbowl was cowboys VS raiders? omg the ratings would be amazing .
February 5th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
which will get more discussion, Manningham’s catch at midfield or the one singer/rapper flipping the bird at halftime (that was premeditated).
February 5th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
New York Giants = highest scoring 4th quarter team
When you score counts!!!!
Hue Jackson may have been able to score in the first half, but when you can score means everything (hello Alex!!)
February 5th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
madonna performance ended well, at the beginning it was slow & methodica/mechanical, more reciting the words than singingl; towards the end much better special effects and signing.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
lefty shut the fkk up wit that ” i guess having a big dong does mattetr when banging a porn star ” crap.. of course having an elite q.b. matters .. what in the hell u tryna prove? but u act like elite qbs grow on trees,,, please tell me , the nation and the raiders front office where we gonna find one.. and to U , the other idiot , ok get rid of dmac, so now our running game is less effective.. well our defense will still suck so what now???
February 5th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Lefty12 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Guess having an elite QB who can drive the length of the field in the final few minutes still DOES matter.Both teams were in the bottom half of defensive stats for the season.Both teams stepped it up in the post-season.Both teams had ELITE QBs.
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Good thing we have Carson.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
New York Giants = highest scoring 4th quarter team
When you score counts!!!!
Hue Jackson may have been able to score in the first half, but when you can score means everything (hello Alex!!)
+++++++++++++++++++
Raiders not scoring in the 4th quarter for what 4-6 games in a row cost us the playoffs.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
JFB,great point,I’ve posted many times how we were outscored by over a 100 points in the 2nd half of games last year.If we had scored more often in the 2nd half,maybe some of those defensive meltdowns wouldn’t have been so devastating.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
JFB will u please just go paint hue jacksons toe nails.. my god!!!!!!!!!!! we get it. u think that a first year coach should have taken the raiders to the superbowl. ok…
February 5th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
And that’s why Eli didn’t want to go to SD hahahahahahahahaha….Eli is officially better than Peyton
February 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Need frontline players on the lines to get up on that stage.
Reggie has a lot of work to do
February 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
JFB every thing somebody says u relate it to hue jackson.. it doesnt matter what it is.. they can bring up a trade,,
justfirebaby : jan 21 2012 :
well hue jackson traded for carson ,, so blah blah blah , stupidity blah ..
February 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
It wasn’t a high scoring game, and defense played well tonight. You need a good QB to win PO games, but you can’t win a SB with a bad defense IMO. Even The colts improved their defense to win that SB.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Next year, I can’t wait to see Reggie and Mark Davis accepting that trophy.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
What a great weekend…out here in Missouri after seeing a classic college game at Mizzou Arena beating KU as lil cousin had a good game while Dickie V was praising my cousin!…oh and yes the party afterwards was crackin……but to top it off Brady and the Pats lose in big game again lmao
February 5th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
i mean fkk!!! will u please in the name of all that is decent stop bringin up hue jackson ????
hue didnt bring down the twin towers dude. hue didnt kill anna nicole smith dude. gat damn!!!! he was a very effective offensive coordinator that shouldnt have been rushed into any head coaching position. and understand that coach allen will make rookie coach mistakes too .
February 5th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Brien, I thought you either got banned or arrested.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
I hope they can do something about the advertising…..
February 5th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
599.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
The NFL’s WORST rushing offense on the season just won the Super Bowl.
Trade D-Mac for a nickle back!!!
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Is that a Joke JFB ??
February 5th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Madonna was an EMBARRASSMENT
Old songs and a stiff old broad. I wouldn’t nail her with Albert’s pencil weiner
Worst half time show in Super Bowl history, just keeping it real
But watching the Cheats go down in flames was worth the mediocre BJ I got from this wannabee Spearmint Rhino trainee.
WRECKS N EFFECT, Y’ALL
February 5th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Do we really need a Chevy advert during the trophy presentation
February 5th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
That sucked.
3 minutes ago
February 5th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
604-usually I wouldn’t even acknowledge such an in-comprehensive bunch of babble,but I was answering SnB who feels the only way you can win is with an elite defense.Neither one of the SB teams had one,but they both had elite QBs.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
599.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
The NFL’s WORST rushing offense on the season just won the Super Bowl.
Trade D-Mac for a nickle back!!!
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Is that a Joke JFB ??
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Trade Dmac for Revis.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
what football fan in the world doesnt think it ‘matters ‘ to have an elite q.b. ?
February 5th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
According to many that comment on here there are a lot of them.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
What I should have said was by reading the comments on here,there are a lot that feel that way.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
You have to have the defensive personnel to hold offenses like the two on display today to under 21 points.
And if you hold a team under 21…you have a chance….elite QB or not.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
We have an almost elite QB.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
And if everything hinges on getting an “elite” QB…then the Raiders chances aren’t very good…..
February 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Here is wha we learned today, some new , and some old news:
1) Eli > Peyton in the clutch.
2) you need an elite, clutch QB to win it all
3) Your Defense in the playoffs has to be great. NY’s defense hold Atlanta to 2 points, GB to 20, SF to 14 and the Pats to 17.
4) both SB coaches are “Defensive” minded first. They drafted their QB from there.
5) don’t need to spend a lot of money on your running back or running game in general. Ahmad Bradshaw was drafted in the 7th round, he has 2 SB rings.
6) The Karma debt form the Tuck Rule is paid off!!
Cheatriots suck!!
Dennis Allen was the right choice, no doubt.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
You need an Eilte QB because at some pint your QB is forced to make clutch throws under pressure.
Only 2 SB winners since 1993 did not have an Elite QB, ravens in 2000 and Bucs in 2002.
You need a cool, laser dart throwing, clutch QB, period, end of story.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
I wasn’t a Hue Jackson fan but I will give him credit for acknowledging the need for the team to upgrade at the QB position if we were ever going to challenge for the SB.What we had before the trade might have equaled play-offs but never the big dance.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Lefty12,We do have a Very Good QB,and he may prove to be elite.Must say,for me,Brady and the Pats must continue to LOSE,in big games,cuz they have a debt to pay,the friggin tuck game.Sorry,I wont get over it,like so many others.HaHaHaHa,pats LOSE,yes
February 5th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
doubt that EVERYTHINGa hinges on an elite q.b. but it sure makes life easier . but what if u had an average q.b a great o line. an outstanding defense & a hall of fame running back? well u could win every year .
February 5th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
No doubt Lefty. We were going nowhere fast with JC….
February 5th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
In 2002,Johnson(QB) played at an elite level.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
In 2002 The Bucs Defense was great and of course karma bit Old Al in the arse…
February 5th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Hendu,Palmer may not be in the same class as Brady and Eli,but he is closer than Campbell was,thereby giving us at least a chance.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
im just sick of people bagging on hue. i liked the dude. its like if u were a lower tier employee at any job and u were great at what u do. and one day the CEO of the companyt said ” hey u , yeah u, youre now the president of this company ” and then u did a fairly decent job for a year and the CEO dies and the company is sold to japanese businessman & every1 turns on u and they fire u and youre sittin in yur living room thikin ( how in the fkk did this happen ?) like , what were u supposed to do ? tell the CEO ” uhh thats ok, i dont want yur promotion” hue did a good job, he wasnt ready, not his fault .
February 5th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Look at the 2 coaches inthe game today.
Hue is Not anything
Iike those 2 guys, DA is more like Coughlin and Belichick than HueSux.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
what if andrew luck is a complete bust ? im talking cant handle the pressure 27 ints in his first season . gets cut 9 games into season 2 bust ? it seems like every1 just believes hes gonna be great. without a shadow of doubt . why ?
February 5th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Hue shoulda been accepting that Lombardi with Carson as the MVP. Effin pisses me off Hue lost his job and the playoffs and the Super Bowl cuz we had a DC who couldn’t stop a fckng runaway shopping vart in an empty parking lot.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Doriangray Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
what football fan in the world doesnt think it ‘matters ‘ to have an elite q.b. ?
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Watch Football much?
February 5th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
#639 I am with you on that one
February 5th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Hey new england chowder, bang this:
Giants win
February 5th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
oh my god! u moron. coughlins been coaching since moses played football. belicheck is a hall of fame greatest coach ever status. u comparing hue jackson to them ? im glad my girlfriend doesnt compare me to rico strong or brad pitt .
February 5th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
I would prefer you build up a team first unless you can get a young elite or high potential elite. Those QBs “USUALLY” have to be drafted in the 1st round and developed
This is still a TEAM game.
The Raiders panicked and went reaching under the idea that you HAVE to HAVE an elite QB to compete.
With that logic, the Raiders reached out and spent everything they had to get the best thing available….
February 5th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
If you don’t have that “elite QB” then go with what you got and continue building the other pieces
February 5th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Only SB winning QB lately that was a FA was Brees. Rodgers, Brady, Manning’s, and Rapistburger were all drafted by their teams.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
This game again proves it is time to trade DMAC. No way we pay him and give Bush a lot of money…
February 5th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
SNB if a genie offered the raiders a choice of: (aaron rodgers) right now or u can have (jared allen and patrick willis) . which would u take?
February 5th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
You have to have the patience to develop “Elite” QBs…
You can’t be on that “Quick Fix” thing…..
Eli wasn’t a sensation overnight
February 5th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Maybe cuz Hes a Stanford Guy,ya know,SMART,and Talented,right?
February 5th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
cus id take rodgers, cus eeven if we had allen and pat willis our defense would still suck for sum reason .
February 5th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
I may be new here to the blog, but can someone tell me who got the MVP of the game. My wife was so upset the Giants won she threw a full bottle of beer right at center of the flat screen and broke it. Then she took off to the corner tavern. She can stay there for all I give a f^ck.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
So much for…
“There’s no way a 9-7 team can win the Super Bowl”.
If we beat SD we get in and beat a banged up Pittsburgh and DMAC and Shonasty come back for the showdown in NE and we get Baltimore at home for the AFC Championship and then DMAC rushes for a SB record and we win the Lombardi.
That’s what I would of liked to have seen, and oh…Reggie still fires Hue to bring in “his guy”.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
You would take Aaron Rodgers! That is a stupid question…
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raider fan whining starts regarding no-call on Moore. If Raiders didnt lead league in penalties, change rep, it’s no-call for them, too.
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That’s real talk.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Is that a Joke JFB ??
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Kind of.
I would prefer a starting DB, lol.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Eli won the MVP…..
February 5th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
, the Raiders reached out and spent everything they had to get the best thing available….
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What an utter bunch of BS.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Doriangray,
I’ll take Aaron Rogers. I can find a suitable alternative to Allen and Willis easier than I can find an alternative to Aaron Rogers.
Plus Aaron is under 30
February 5th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raider fan whining starts regarding no-call on Moore. If Raiders didnt lead league in penalties, change rep, it’s no-call for them, too.
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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That’s real talk.
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Word!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Dorian,
I don’t think Luck is going to be great.
He is going to be a slightly better version of Matt Ryan. Good but not great.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
lefty12 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
, the Raiders reached out and spent everything they had to get the best thing available….
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What an utter bunch of BS.
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That’s your “humble” opinion
February 5th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
SterlingMoore Sterling Moore
Preciate all the support Im getting from you guys. Really means the world to me. Never want this feeling again EVER. End of the day #BLESSED
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Hang in there and be glad the Raiders were stupid enough to cut you.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
rank and file Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
I may be new here to the blog, but can someone tell me who got the MVP of the game. My wife was so upset the Giants won she threw a full bottle of beer right at center of the flat screen and broke it. Then she took off to the corner tavern. She can stay there for all I give a f^ck.
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if flat screen was 50 inches or bigger, time to get a new wife.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
303Raider Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Eli won the MVP…..
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Thanks bud.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raider fan whining starts regarding no-call on Moore. If Raiders didnt lead league in penalties, change rep, it’s no-call for them, too.
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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That’s real talk.
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Yup
February 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
well SNB u like great q.b.s better than defense too… but umm.. i dont know. where in the hell u gonna find p;ayers comparable to jared allen & patrick willis tho .
February 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
611.doriangray Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
JFB every thing somebody says u relate it to hue jackson.. it doesnt matter what it is.. they can bring up a trade,,
justfirebaby : jan 21 2012 :
well hue jackson traded for carson ,, so blah blah blah , stupidity blah ..
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I love Carson Palmer, so WTF are you talking about, and why are you making up quotes for me??
February 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
I am making a request:
Next poster that says we needed to keep Hue, needs to get their balls smashed, really?
I mean do you see the 2 “Defensive”, tough, no nonsese coaches tonight?
HueSux is not HC material.
D.A. With his defensive and tough background is exactly the type of HC we need and want!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Raiders new season officially begins today.
I like the prospect of the Raiders hiring a college coach who has NFL experience for defensive coordinator
February 5th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
totally disagree with that dbag jerry mc. i saw osi umenyora hit tom brady after a throw today and instantly thought : if that had beeen richard seymour that was a 15 yard penalty. in these playoffs there has been fights after the whistle & no fouls called. there has been games with 0 penalties!! the refs have it in their brains to throw flags on the outlaw raiders.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
That’s right, I love Carson Palmer
Why? Because what he can potential means WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY more at the end of games than what ANY RB can do.
You need a guy to drive down the field and score when it counts. It don’t fckn matter if it is 17-13, or 38-34, at the end of games, there is an opportunity to win, and you aren’t going to do it running the ball.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raider fan whining starts regarding no-call on Moore. If Raiders didnt lead league in penalties, change rep, it’s no-call for them, too.
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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That’s real talk.
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That is a lie and “Jer” knows it.That play is Pass Interference if a Raider is involved.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Patriots and Brady are going to come back and win this thing. There is still plenty ‘o tome left. 59 sec. is still plenty ‘o time.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
hire a new dc and new assistants;
cut players not earning their paychecks; take the hit this year so we don’t have to for the next two decades
February 5th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
303Raider Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Only SB winning QB lately that was a FA was Brees. Rodgers, Brady, Manning’s, and Rapistburger were all drafted by their teams.
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That’s about it 303 when it comes to ELITE QBs….
I don’t think there is much common mentality with those who believe in developing an elite QB and those which would trade multiple high picks for 30+ year old QBs that haven’t won a playoff game
Maybe Carson can get it done….there were tons of doubts on Drew Brees
February 5th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Dorian,
Most of the penalties that were a
Problem for the Raiders were pre-snap penalties.
The kind they throw when you are stupid and not disciplined.
Kind of like there old coach, HueSux…
February 5th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
They’re creepy and they’re kooky,
Mysterious and spooky,
They’re all together ooky,
The Addams Family.
Their house is a museum
Where people come to see ‘em
They really are a scream
The Addams Family.
(Neat)
(Sweet)
(Petite)
So get a witches shawl on
A broomstick you can crawl on
We’re gonna pay a call on
The Addams Family.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
As long as the Oakland Raiders exist, they will always be flagged for no other reason than they are the Raiders.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Hue Hue Hue …. we surly are not going to be talking about could have/should have/what if with Hue Fckn Jackson all year are we.. Dudes done, Backed up nada on what he promised..
Allen ERA !!!
February 5th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Reggie is on the phone trying to trade DMAC.
Today’s game proved you have no business paying a RB lots of cash, especially one that doesn’t play…..
February 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
So I’m guessing there is a coach we are targeting for a DC on one of the two teams tonight.
Seems like we were striking quickly and then it just ground to a halt.
I bet we hear something tomorrow about a new candidate.
February 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Bmyers83 Brandon Myers
I’m gonna practice for next years celebration about this time
11 minutes ago
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Do it.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Hue Hue Hue …. we surly are not going to be talking about could have/should have/what if with Hue Fckn Jackson all year are we.. Dudes done, Backed up nada on what he promised..
Allen ERA !!!
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Sorry dude, just cant help but think that if Hue had a bona-fide DC he’d be the one collecting the Lombardi tonight. Just sayin…….
Word…….
February 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Is Perry Fewll or the Giants Dline or secondary coach under contract?
The Giants played great Defense in these playoffs. They held the Packers to 20 and The Pats to 17 points…
February 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
670.doriangray Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
well SNB u like great q.b.s better than defense too… but umm.. i dont know. where in the hell u gonna find p;ayers comparable to jared allen & patrick willis tho .
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Dorian, I think you can find effective and sometimes dominant defenders in the draft and free agency. Von Miller was a force….Pierre Paul is a force…Clay Matthews is a force…Suh is a force….Mayo is a force…I think defenders are easier to find….and guys like Julius Peppers come available more often that elite QBs….
No argument with you on the scarcity of elite Qbs….
I didn’t think Carson was an elite QB worth what was traded. I still don’t. I am afraid that once the rest of this team is ready to compete…he’s going to decline.
Its not like having a QB playing at this level in their 20’s …Carson is the same age as Eli…maybe a year older….and he hasn’t accomplished anything. If Carson was 28,…I’d be jumping up and down and shouting to the heavens in joy.
But at 32….I don’t know man…is Carson a bridge..or is he the destination?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
@GOOSE
Yeah D did let him down terribly, i just cant wash those final pressors and later comments from my final opinon on dude, ..wonder who will pick him up .
February 5th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Giants 21
Patriots 17
February 5th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Nobody is picking up HueSux….
February 5th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
@GOOSE
Yeah D did let him down terribly, i just cant wash those final pressors and later comments from my final opinon on dude, ..wonder who will pick him up .
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Hue will be joining T.O. in the indoor football league.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
@GOOSE
Yeah D did let him down terribly, i just cant wash those final pressors and later comments from my final opinon on dude, ..wonder who will pick him up .
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Gotcha. Those pressers in the final days were painful no doubt. And a little off the wall. I think losin in the manner in which he did (no thanks to the effed up D) rattled his brain a tad bit.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
You know one season can change your view of any player.
Sometimes it is a coaching change, a better supporting cast, gaining a little maturity, or even a few lucky breaks.
I think Carson can achieve a higher level than most think in here. Alex Smith sure is viewed much different now than 12 months ago.
Let’s give him a training camp and a real coaching staff and hopefully a competent defense before we write him off.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
How many 1st round picks do the Super Bowl champions have on the O-line?
Zero!!!
Fck an $8 million dollar LT!!!
Give me an elite QB (like Palmer) and an O-line that’s been together a few years.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
come on 303, he was arrogant & completly full of himself, a bully of sorts but he did have some talent.. He could be useful if he swalloed his EGO..to someone else.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
You know one season can change your view of any player.
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And any coach for that matter eh?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Bmyers83 Brandon Myers
I’m gonna practice for next years celebration about this time
11 minutes ago
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Cut this idiot.
How about banging out a few reps on the bench instead of twittering??
Killers don’t talk Brandon!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
As I said earlier,the one thing Jackson knew was we needed an upgrade at QB to ever have a chance to win the big game.Is Palmer the guy that can do it?That remains to be seen.But it was obvious that what we had before him never would have and that now at least we have a chance.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Can we get a new post please Jer? The super bowl just happened and we’re still on the same tripe here? Give us a layout of the game. Com’on man………..
February 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
The guy drafted right before we took Gallery has 2 rings.
How come we didn’t draft Rivers and trade him to SD? Not like we’ve had better QBs since, or that Gallery amounted to anything worthwhile. Hopefully RMac does better with these opportunities.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
694.Goose Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
@GOOSE
Yeah D did let him down terribly, i just cant wash those final pressors and later comments from my final opinon on dude, ..wonder who will pick him up .
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Gotcha. Those pressers in the final days were painful no doubt. And a little off the wall. I think losin in the manner in which he did (no thanks to the effed up D) rattled his brain a tad bit.
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Lol, yea he needed to take a shower and simmer down.. seems he has done some damage to his rep currently, i definalty thought he would be coach this coming season. Schit here i am talking about dude after saying we better not… HA !!!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
lefty12 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
As I said earlier,the one thing Jackson knew was we needed an upgrade at QB to ever have a chance to win the big game.Is Palmer the guy that can do it?That remains to be seen.But it was obvious that what we had before him never would have and that now at least we have a chance.
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Allen and McKenzie like Palmer, so obvious they want to keep him cause they know he could be that guy. Maybe Reggie has a ‘gut’ about Palmer.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
LOL at the 32nd ranked rushing offense and 27th ranked total defense winning the Super Bowl!!!
Can we draft more WR’s and D-lineman now?
Modern NFL is about making big plays offensively and getting some sacks and forcing some holds defensively.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Balls of Brass Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
You know one season can change your view of any player.
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And any coach for that matter eh?
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What, you didn’t care for Art Shell 2.0?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
mamba,
I was a Hue supporter and stuck with the “keep” Hue rant.
I finally realized 2 things:
1) Papa Reggie was bringing in his own guy
2) blaming just the defense for our 1-4 finish was not correct. A coach like Coughlin and Belicheat motivate there players and hold players accountable. Letting Slowlando play vs Miami was a bad move and he never could fix the Defense.
And after you see DA, he is exactly what we need.
If Hue was such a hot commodity, why didn’t St Louis, Or KC hire him?
He could even get a QB coach gig?
He was the lat of Al’s stoog hires….
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Great game.. love to see the Cheats lose… meanwhile, too friggin funny as MR as Albert forgets which sockpuppet he is AGAIN. This is at least the third time I recall. Must have gotten so drunk on his mom’s beer that he just gave up trying to switch personalities. Of course his hatred of everthing Raider rears its head as he cheers on Sterling Moore(who, yes we should have kept) and his man-love Tom Brady. Albert, you should pull another Favre-like retirement until tomorrow, and maybe we’ll be able to stop laughing at you.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I liked JC, and I thought he did a good job wuth us. He was 4-2 before getting injured, but I do think Palmer is a better QB.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
694.Goose Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
@GOOSE
Yeah D did let him down terribly, i just cant wash those final pressors and later comments from my final opinon on dude, ..wonder who will pick him up .
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Gotcha. Those pressers in the final days were painful no doubt. And a little off the wall. I think losin in the manner in which he did (no thanks to the effed up D) rattled his brain a tad bit.
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Lol, yea he needed to take a shower and simmer down.. seems he has done some damage to his rep currently, i definalty thought he would be coach this coming season. Schit here i am talking about dude after saying we better not… HA !!!
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I have a ‘gut’ Hue will land in Cincinatti before next season starts. Don’t ask me why. just a ‘gut’.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I’d rather overpay and give myself a chance than underpay and know I had no chance-and that is what it boils down to with the Palmer trade.We might have overpaid,but at least now we have a chance.Before we had none.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
With*
February 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
707.303Raider Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
mamba,
I was a Hue supporter and stuck with the “keep” Hue rant.
I finally realized 2 things:
1) Papa Reggie was bringing in his own guy
2) blaming just the defense for our 1-4 finish was not correct. A coach like Coughlin and Belicheat motivate there players and hold players accountable. Letting Slowlando play vs Miami was a bad move and he never could fix the Defense.
And after you see DA, he is exactly what we need.
If Hue was such a hot commodity, why didn’t St Louis, Or KC hire him?
He could even get a QB coach gig?
He was the lat of Al’s stoog hires….
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Oh i agree on all of the above, i was just saying in response to HUESUX as you call him that i mean he does have some talent in some capacity as a coach..
I love the Allen Era, good feel right of the bat about dude.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Like I said yesterday:
pass, stop the pass, get to the passer, and intercept the pass!!!
That’s how win in the NFL!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
We had a chance to make it with JC. Rex made it to the SB, and that Bears defense wasn’t that special like TB with Dungy and the Ravens.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
How many 1st round picks do the Super Bowl champions have on the O-line?
Zero!!!
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Yeah, but the guys that they went toe to toe with have a lst rounder and two second rounders on theirs. And the team they beat in overtime in the conference championship game has nothing but lst and 2nd rounders on theirs.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
We had NO chance with JC.
Absolutely NO chance.
Did you see our defense? No chance….
February 5th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
303Raider Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Like I said yesterday:
pass, stop the pass, get to the passer, and intercept the pass!!!
That’s how win in the NFL!!!
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In the modern NFL you are not going to stop the pass. No one can. But their are teams that can send 4 guys and get to the passer. Do that, and you can win in the NFL.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
LOL @ 303.
I agree. Not with that defense.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Patriots never should have traded Seymour. Their defense isn’t very good anymore.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
The Giants Defense stopped the pass tonight. Only 17 points for the Pats, that is stopping the pass in m eyes!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
599.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
The NFL’s WORST rushing offense on the season just won the Super Bowl.
Trade D-Mac for a nickle back!!!
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Fk all that noise, DMC ain’t goin nowhere
The Al Davis style of Defense just won a superbowl, Long live Al D’s defense.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Trade Seymour back to the Pats for Wilfork!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Patriots never should have traded Seymour. Their defense isn’t very good anymore.
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They couldn’t afford to keep both. So they got rid of Seymour. Most inside the Pats org thought that was a mistake and they should have figured a way to keep both.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
If we tied to trade DMac, he wouldn’t be able to make it to the airport, he would sprain his footprint something.
I would trade Dmac ASAP.
Let’s get a couple pass rushers, cornerback or 2.
BTW, another great example of a LineBacker in coverage making a play tonight. Blackburns pick off of Brady was a great play!! Hopefully DAcan “coach up” Slowlando and get him to play like a 1st round pick!!!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
303Raider Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
The Giants Defense stopped the pass tonight. Only 17 points for the Pats, that is stopping the pass in m eyes!!!
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you are right actually. I think their Dline had a lot to do with it tho.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Defense is the reason why the Giants won today. Eli was 30/40 for 296 yards and 1 TD. Brady was 27/41 276 yards and 2 TDs & 1 INT.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Is Reggie McKenzie on the phone to Pepper Johnson yet?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
No, really?
Very astute observation Peymour!
Genius…
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Seymour Bush Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
you are right actually. I think their Dline had a lot to do with it tho.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Defenses will eventually catch up to all this passing going on….what comes around goes around.
I think the fundamentals will always ring through….blocking, tackling, throwing, catching, running with SMARTS and DISCIPLINE
The minute you chase one trend…another one starts
February 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
The Pats wouldn’t give us a nickle for R Seymour. They got the best of that trade.
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Raider O Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Trade Seymour back to the Pats for Wilfork!
February 5th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
JustSpinBaby Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
The guy drafted right before we took Gallery has 2 rings.
How come we didn’t draft Rivers and trade him to SD? Not like we’ve had better QBs since, or that Gallery amounted to anything worthwhile. Hopefully RMac does better with these opportunities.
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Because if we selected Rivers, they would have kept Manning. The only reason that deal went down was because Rivers fell to the NYG and they wanted him more than Manning. Foolish of them.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
JAMISTA CLOWN!!!! How’s your boy Newt looking? Like sh** just like you. Sucks to be you. But now we know why you are old and bitter.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
I don’t like playing Monday Morning QBs in the draft.
The Raiders were not in the right state to do anything with a rookie QB. They would have just Andrew Walter’d Rivers, Rogers, Manning, Big Ben and all.
The past is the past. Gotta move forward…and I need to take my own advice and get on board with Carson Palmer
February 5th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Peymour we are talking football. If you want to talk about politics go to a left wing commie blog.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Defenses will eventually catch up to all this passing going on….what comes around goes around.
I think the fundamentals will always ring through….blocking, tackling, throwing, catching, running with SMARTS and DISCIPLINE
The minute you chase one trend…another one starts
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I think you are right about this, but with all the rule changes over the last ten years guys are running down the field wide open and QB’s are standing there rifling it right to them. I would expect some of the rule changes to be eased up a bit back towards the defenses.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Peymour we are talking football. If you want to talk about politics go to a left wing commie blog.
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You’re not talking football. You’re speaking gibberish. Can anyone on this blog translate gibberish into English for jamista?
February 5th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
To run a successful 4-3 defense, you need those amazing DEs like Pierre-Paul and Justin Tuck.
Those guys are HARD to find.
To run a 3-4 defense, you need a solid (average) NT, and athletic LBers. MUCH easier to find.
Both will work. One is just more simple and cost-effective to develop.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
alex7 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
To run a successful 4-3 defense, you need those amazing DEs like Pierre-Paul and Justin Tuck.
Those guys are HARD to find.
To run a 3-4 defense, you need a solid (average) NT, and athletic LBers. MUCH easier to find.
Both will work. One is just more simple and cost-effective to develop.
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Notice tho that the top odd front defenses have excellent OLB’s or pass rushing defensive ends. And the teams that don’t like GB aren’t very good defensively even tho they run the 3 man.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raider fan whining starts regarding no-call on Moore. If Raiders didnt lead league in penalties, change rep, it’s no-call for them, too.
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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That’s real talk.
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“Real Talk”??
Hmm… Albert… So you were John Tweedy.
February 5th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Alex7 Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
To run a successful 4-3 defense, you need those amazing DEs like Pierre-Paul and Justin Tuck.
Those guys are HARD to find.
To run a 3-4 defense, you need a solid (average) NT, and athletic LBers. MUCH easier to find
Both will work. One is just more simple and cost-effective to develop.
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Irrelevant since our HC has already said we will run both and the base is,well,irrelevant.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
There is NO Defense that will EVER catch up to a TOP flight QB who can throw a football into a shoe box.
You guys seem like this is the first time that a top flight QB wins.
Joe Montana, Steve Yong, troy Aikman, Brett Favre, John Elway, are top flight QB’s and no defense caught up to those guys.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Irrelevant since our HC has already said we will run both and the base is,well,irrelevant.
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Right now the NUMBER ONE thing I would put on our wish list is a better pass rusher somewhere along the Dline. That is something we must get and must get quickly.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Seymour,that is true,but whether we run a base 4-3 or a base 3-4 is irrelevant according to the Head Coach since we will play both.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Seymour
Gotta agree on the need for a legit pass rusher. Give most QBs time and they will get you
Raiders need to get Houston inside and a pass rusher in his place. But there are a lot of other problems on that defense that Dennis will have to get to work on….some scheme and some talent
February 5th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
708.PlunkforHOF Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Great game.. love to see the Cheats lose… meanwhile, too friggin funny as MR as Albert forgets which sockpuppet he is AGAIN. This is at least the third time I recall. Must have gotten so drunk on his mom’s beer that he just gave up trying to switch personalities. Of course his hatred of everthing Raider rears its head as he cheers on Sterling Moore(who, yes we should have kept) and his man-love Tom Brady. Albert, you should pull another Favre-like retirement until tomorrow, and maybe we’ll be able to stop laughing at you.
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I use to listen to Howard stern a few years ago when I had sirius, there was this little fker called Eric The Midget, he was a fan of Howard but he hated everything about the show. He reminds me alot of MR-sully.
Eric The Bedhumper is actually a big Raiders fan, I was listening/watching a clip on youtube the other day of this little fker and he was wearing Raider gear. Could Sully be Eric the Midget? I seriously think he could be.
I will post the vid tommorrow on here, you will just have listen to this dude, he is very negative like this cat Sully, then when you look at the picture in the vid with him in Raider gear I think most of you will agree with me, Sully very well could be this fker
February 5th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
To Hue Jackson’s credit, he wanted a PHYSICAL football team. That super Bowl game today was a PHYSICAL game. Too bad Jackson created a bunch of wooses, not physical football players.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
shout out to 4eva for giving mt laptop a virus! lol hope all is well with you brethren!
February 5th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Seymour
Gotta agree on the need for a legit pass rusher. Give most QBs time and they will get you
Raiders need to get Houston inside and a pass rusher in his place. But there are a lot of other problems on that defense that Dennis will have to get to work on….some scheme and some talent
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No doubt. Losing Shaughnessy turned out to be a disaster for this team. Trevor Scott turned into the worlds tallest invisible man, and the Dline just plain wore out by the end of the year. We need a good pass rusher. Emphasizing the word “good”.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Can you guys say “Mark Anderson DE New England?” Now right there, is a free agent we could REALLY use.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
663.Snowflake Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Albert Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raider fan whining starts regarding no-call on Moore. If Raiders didnt lead league in penalties, change rep, it’s no-call for them, too.
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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That’s real talk.
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Word!
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The SAME RULES should apply whether a team has a bad rep. or not.
Either it’s a penalty or it’s not. Period.
There shouldn’t be any b.s of “well THAT team deserves the calls and that other team doesn’t”.
Rules are just that…RULES, and EVERYBODY should abide by the same ones bad rep or not.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Yo yo yo just docked the Reggae Part Boat and brought the party up to the penthouse!
Dem ladies gettin’ loose and Hebrew Nationals poppin’ on the hibachi
Speaking of my new album Wrecks n Effect, bustin’ a lyric writing session in the bathroom in about 5 mins
Got an angry duece working its way down the pipes, word
February 5th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
I swear if the Raiders were to win the SB next year you would still hear a ton of negative posts discrediting the team from some of the “fans”.
“Let’s face it guys, it was a down year in the nfl. The Raiders got lucky in the leagues weakest division; got a first round bye and played a home game against a beat up Ravens team, then lucked out that Pittsburgh upset NE so we could get to host the AFC chapionship game, and if not for a bunch of bad calls by the refs we would’ve lost.
Then we win what was probably the worst SB in history by being lucky enuff to beat a team that lost their starting left tackle.
Let’s be real; we should’ve lost that SB and in my book we did.
There’s no way this team repeats next yr. with an aging Palmer and a defense that got lucky at the right time. Plus, Allen will most likely up and leave to a better offer anyway.
Sure it’s cool we won the SB but it really means nothing in terms of historical significance.”
February 5th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
752.Master Beeecham Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Yo yo yo just docked the Reggae Part Boat and brought the party up to the penthouse!
Dem ladies gettin’ loose and Hebrew Nationals poppin’ on the hibachi
Speaking of my new album Wrecks n Effect, bustin’ a lyric writing session in the bathroom in about 5 mins
Got an angry duece working its way down the pipes, word
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You show that turd who’s boss man.
February 5th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Was 8-3 in my playoff picks.
Was perfect in AFC/NFC Championships and the Super Bowl.
I wish I had the money to gamble. lol
February 5th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Oh, and to everyone dogging me because I wanted Reggie to interview Perry Fewell for the Head Coaching job…
Giants are Super Bowl Champions
February 5th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
A potent passing attack wins super bowl championships. ever thing else you guys say is just pure nonsense. FACT
February 5th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RaidO Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
A potent passing attack wins super bowl championships. ever thing else you guys say is just pure nonsense. FACT
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Well, yes. And Palmer’s yards per attempt would coincidentally put him right behind Rodgers, Brady and Eli Manning and just ahead of Brees and Rothleisberger. Seems we are on the right track with that guy.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RaidO, #757
RaidO, what you say is true, however, the Giants running game knocked a big hole in the Patriots game, depriving them of offensive downs for at least a quarter. I thinkst the running and passing work together.
Also, I am not sure anyone else noticed the overriding fear in Brady’s eyes. The guy is a coward and his boss Belichik is a fraud. The only thing a team has to fear from the Patriots is fear itself.
And by the way, the magnificient Wes Welker lost the game for the Pats, 2nd to last Pat’s possession with 4 mins left when he inexplicably dropped Brady’s pass up the middle which gave the ball to the Giants.
Personally, I didn’t care which team won.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Man those 13 shrimp cocktails came back and got the Beeech Dog in the end.
Almost sprained my ankle pinching that loaf.
Luckily I successfully busted world class lyrics while I was wiping, this is a jam honoring my weiner called National Monument:
The White House is wack, gimme a break
The Grand Canyon so boring, can’t stay awake
Mt. Rushmore? Gimme a break, son
You know my weiner dog is #1
FIZZLE
February 5th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Hey all, just bout readdy to puff puff my sweet new york steak eatin bessie goin in for some tang tang. Yo nerds of blog land aint got no chain on this one.
Just tryin to keep it real for some who aint slam slammin and bounce bouncin.
Just a bit shout out to all my babes waitin in line. Will git to ya, fo sho sho.
WHUT YUT YEAH HEY GIZZ GIZZ
February 5th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
757-The team that scores the most points wins every time and anything else you say is nonsense-FACT.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Somebody took one in the rear tonight, huh?
February 5th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
I’m tellin ya this shoulda been HueJacks Suppa Bowl. But if luck has it, the Patriots can still pull this thing out.
Restore Hue to HC of the Oakland Raiders. Do it.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Ode to “Tom Brady”
Lil Tommy is married to a Brazilian wife,
Claims he loves her, she aint nothin nice,
If you ask me she looks like a sleazy tramp,
She calls herself a model cuz she walks down a ramp,
Seems good for nothing which is only known to a few,
She should be turned out to Beecham and his motley crew,
Why in the world Tommy would let her turn him into goldilocks?
Thats real hard to say since she’s stuck on his jock.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Man those 13 shrimp cocktails came back and got the Beeech Dog in the end.
Almost sprained my ankle pinching that loaf.
Luckily I successfully busted world class lyrics while I was wiping, this is a jam honoring my weiner called National Monument:
The White House is wack, gimme a break
The Grand Canyon so boring, can’t stay awake
Mt. Rushmore? Gimme a break, son
You know my weiner dog is #1
FIZZLE
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Ouch man, Ouch!
February 5th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Ironic?
A guy named “Tuck” ends up harrassing Brady and sacking him in the SB.
This time the “Tuck” beat Brady.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
I lost 100, but that’s OK. Nice seeing Belicheat and Brady go down to the NY Giants again! Unreal how a 7-7 team ends up 13-7 and Super Bowl Champs. Holy Toledo!
February 5th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Whoever said this should have been Hues’ Super Bowl nailed it. Hue should right now be planning the victory parade in Oakland. And looking for a new DC too! No bull.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
#765,
Good Stuff! Lol.
Your lyrics brought tears to my eyes.
I haven’t been so moved since the Carpenters were around.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Coughlin is the King of NFL Head Coaches in the modern era. There is no doubt now. Eli is # 1, too. He reminds me of Jim Plunkett in the sense that he never gets credit for being elite; he just wins Super Bowls!
February 5th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The linebacker taking the ball from Gronk was huge. The Giants were the hungrier team, no doubt. Welker’s drop was bad, too.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
This should have been Oaklands Super Bowl. We lost too many games because of the defense. It’s to bad Hue had to take the credit for a DC that mailed it in, and Hue was hapless to muster any defense to the lack of defense.
Shoulda been Hues’ Bowl. Damn, we were that close.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
I am so happy Hue was fired. 7-4 to 8-8. No excuses. He was a lousy Head Coach!
February 5th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Ironic?
A guy named “Tuck” ends up harrassing Brady and sacking him in the SB.
This time the “Tuck” beat Brady.
Especialy in the beginning when Tuck caused Brady to throw for 40 yards while not getting out of the box…2-0! Karma is a biatch!
February 5th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
773. I hear you. At the same time, winners win, and losers lose. Our team is still stuck in the “loser” category.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Pats can still pull this one out, plenty of time left.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Hey Swordfish, the game is over dude.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Who won?
February 5th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Giants.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Huh? Anyways…good night Nation!
February 5th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Posts # 773 & 777
Please check your spelling and refrain from using extremely vulgar language.
Thank You for your co-operation.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Rich Eisen said after the game “Well guys, who’s gonna challenge the Patriots next season? You’ve got The Steelers, Ravens,…i’m sure the Chargers will have something to say and we’ll keep an eye on Tebow and all that there. What do you guys think?”
NO mention of Raiders whatsoever of course.
Well, that’s what we get I guess.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Have we resigned Sterling Moore yet? Dude is goign to be a FA. He’d be the best DB in our back field immediately.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Was it Hue that made the call on Sterling?
If so, that was a bad decision.
I’m on record as saying that was a bad move when it happened. As were a few others on here.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
We sign Moore and then everyone can complain weekly that he is getting called for PIs while other teams CBs do less and get away with it.Guaranteed he is a Raider and Balt wins due to a PI call and today he would have had one too-regardless of what ‘Jer’ says.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Patriots were not even that good this season. The AFC is up for grabs next season!
February 5th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
realtruraider Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
708.PlunkforHOF Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Great game.. love to see the Cheats lose… meanwhile, too friggin funny as MR as Albert forgets which sockpuppet he is AGAIN. This is at least the third time I recall. Must have gotten so drunk on his mom’s beer that he just gave up trying to switch personalities. Of course his hatred of everthing Raider rears its head as he cheers on Sterling Moore(who, yes we should have kept) and his man-love Tom Brady. Albert, you should pull another Favre-like retirement until tomorrow, and maybe we’ll be able to stop laughing at you.
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I use to listen to Howard stern a few years ago when I had sirius, there was this little fker called Eric The Midget, he was a fan of Howard but he hated everything about the show. He reminds me alot of MR-sully.
Eric The Bedhumper is actually a big Raiders fan, I was listening/watching a clip on youtube the other day of this little fker and he was wearing Raider gear. Could Sully be Eric the Midget? I seriously think he could be.
I will post the vid tommorrow on here, you will just have listen to this dude, he is very negative like this cat Sully, then when you look at the picture in the vid with him in Raider gear I think most of you will agree with me, Sully very well could be this fker
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Please do post.. sounds great
February 5th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Well the “experts” will have us at 7-9 or worse going into the season.
Depends a little bit on who we might pick up in FA.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Hardline, excellent rap lyrics
I definitely feel the hate for Tom’s ho. That nasty skank best check herself before she wrecks herself
You’ve obviously got mad flow, check out this dizzle I wrote about my massive dump called Shout Out To Prunes:
Yo, Beeech Dizzle Dope needs some cooling cream
Cause that duece I dropped was completely obscene
Stay out of the john the sight is blinding
Like a horror movie more frightening than the Shining
WHUT WHUT PIZZLE
February 5th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Moore made plays when he was with the Raiders during the preseason and wasnt called for a PI. If you havent noticed, the dude is always around the ball. He’s got great awareness and a natural feel for the game. Stanford Routt is a track star trying to play football and you can clearly see why the game doesnt come naturally to him. I’ll take my chances with Moore over Routt any day. Even Belicheat felt comfy enough to put him out there one on one in the biggest game of the year.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
We can thank a lot of this on R.Reagan for closing all the state mental hospitals when he was Governor.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Well the “experts” will have us at 7-9 or worse going into the season.
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Let them. I’d rather be under the radar anyways. We got a veteran QB getting more time with his players. We’ll be fine on the O side. The D will be improved because Allen is here and not Bresh. We’re 10-6 next season. You can quote me on that.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
AIG-I’m not knocking Moore,just pointing out the obvious.
February 5th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
djohnnyg Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Was it Hue that made the call on Sterling?
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I used to think it was Al but I believe Moore became available when he was briefly cut from the Pats (after Al passed away). So it’s both their faults.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Man, almost 800 posts about what was and ain’t going to be no more and what nobody knows will happen. You guys have too much time on your hands.
February 5th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Yeah,the AFC looks pretty weak next season. pittsburg didn’t impress, baltimore is looking older everyday, the dolts have Norvel Turner, and the denver has tebow. If we get a Defense we could make a run.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:09 am
Hey a big shout out to the Giants. I always like to see a guy make good like Sterling when the Raiders in all their wisdom cut a guy like that.
But how can some of ya’ll be surprised by that when we drafted a guy like Jamarcus Russell. And everyone throws Hue under the bus now but what, its all Hues fault? Just dont get it man.
Starling Moore might of been cut because he wasn’t any good wearin silver and black. But he goes to a team with a good DC and has a good year. I wished we kept him, been saying that for six months. But hey ya’ll, we cut Derek Hagan who I think was a huge mistake.
Typical Raider m. o. but all that is gonna change now. But if we get rid of Denarius Moore like some of ya’ll are talkin in here, I’ll start to think this team cannot find a way to pull its head out of its arse.
Ya know they say even a blind squirrell can find a nut, but this team can’t sometimes recognize what a nut even is. But if the new gm and hc has some serious nuts, we gonna be fine. We just chill on that.
Peace.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:15 am
I is sooo glad the giants won just wished it coulda been da raidas. I keep pinchin loafs too and splits me bad. I make a mean prune cocktail.
Are we gonna bring back Hue cuz that what I keep heerin in here. I dont know if you can hire someone after you fire them, but I keep lettin some tramp back in this trailer can all the time so I guess you can re hire Hue. The man was stud.
So I guess I stool with my name on it down at the ron-d-voo lounge gonna hang til I get good and sloppy.
GUZZLE GUZZLE GIZZLE SLURP SLURP
February 6th, 2012 at 12:23 am
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/09000d5d826a9edb/article/mia-uses-obscene-gesture-during-super-bowl-halftime-show?module=HP11_headline_stack
February 6th, 2012 at 12:28 am
http://www.raiders.com/team/coaches.html
February 6th, 2012 at 12:29 am
652.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
You have to have the patience to develop “Elite” QBs…
You can’t be on that “Quick Fix” thing…..
Eli wasn’t a sensation overnight
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Jamarcus agrees with you 100%.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:32 am
http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/2012/02/02/report-raiders-have-interest-in-packers-whitt/
February 6th, 2012 at 12:34 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1051633-2012-nfl-mock-draft-7-round-oakland-raiders-predictions
February 6th, 2012 at 12:41 am
Raiders bringin Hue back as QB coach? Makes sense to me.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:14 am
802-you didn’t read his comment.He was talking about QBs not useless masses of human waste.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:22 am
djohnnyg Says:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Was it Hue that made the call on Sterling?
If so, that was a bad decision.
I’m on record as saying that was a bad move when it happened. As were a few others on here.
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Me too. Thought it was a horrible call. That’s the thing I was pissed at Hue about. Being such a hypocrite at the time with what he said in the Pressers and then what he did and who he cut.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Tommy didn’t get a ring.Nevermind.He won the afc championship game so he won the Imac Hunt Trophy.
February 6th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Herm Edwards is killing sterling Moore on mike and mike for not jamming manningham at the line of scrimmage and forcing him inside.
February 6th, 2012 at 5:07 am
…on the big 4th quarter play of course.
February 6th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Jim Trotter, SI writer and member of the HOF voting panel, with an article explaining how these people think…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jim_trotter/02/04/hall.of.fame/index.html
February 6th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Jezus I am getting old.
6-7 beers and 2 cocktails used to be nothing.
Now, after such, I hop on the blog, use tons of exclamations points and feel like complete crap the next morning.
Ugghhhhhh……………
February 6th, 2012 at 5:54 am
809.Dakota Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Herm Edwards is killing sterling Moore on mike and mike for not jamming manningham at the line of scrimmage and forcing him inside.
Good Morning Nation!!!
Herm Edwards should shut the hell up! Although that shoudl have been the play of the game, that wasn’t the play that cost the Pats the SB!
February 6th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Herm Edwards is a blow hard and a joke.
February 6th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Whoever commented about Eric the Midget being Sullivan, here is a video with him in a 49er jersey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuMx-TqjVk8
February 6th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Jason Tarver for DC?
another ex-49er … wow
ROG is probably not pleased
February 6th, 2012 at 6:07 am
You know what the funniest thing about yetserday…all the Niner fans saying that it should have been them to win the SB and that The Giants got lucky! LOL…
February 6th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Good morning Hwnrdr!
at least that 49er lovin’ qu33r Tom Brady didn’t win another ring
pretty sweet to see Coughlin & Manning snag another ring from Belicheat & Pretty Boy
February 6th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Pepper Johnson, Josh Boyer, Jim Herrmann & Peter Giunta are now free to interview for Raiders DC !!!
February 6th, 2012 at 6:51 am
I’d rather have Tim Lewis or Ed Donatell than any of those guys (above) …
I think even Kevin Greene or Joe Whitt Jr. from GB would be an upgrade over Chuck Bresnahan though!
February 6th, 2012 at 6:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 6:51 am
I’d rather have Tim Lewis or Ed Donatell than any of those guys (above) …
I think even Kevin Greene or Joe Whitt Jr. from GB would be an upgrade over Chuck Bresnahan though!
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Randy Hanson would be an upgrade over Bresnehan.
February 6th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Randy Hanson would be an upgrade over Bresnehan
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Bert,
didn’t JFB suggest Bob Wylie for DC last week?
I mean, he worked some pretty sweet magic with that O-Line … right ???
February 6th, 2012 at 7:03 am
what has Hanson been doing since 2010?
February 6th, 2012 at 7:06 am
GUY CAN TAKE A RIGHT-HOOK,THATS 4 SURE..
February 6th, 2012 at 7:07 am
It is pretty funny that the NFL is so lame that they didn’t even know who M.I.A. was when allowing her to perform in the halftime show. If they had done any research at all, they would have known she is not Super Bowl halftime material.
http://youtu.be/IeMvUlxXyz8
February 6th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Has their been anymore talk on Tarver?
February 6th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Tarver coached on the 49ers staff from 2001 through 20010, working as an offensive quality control coach from 2001-03, assistant running backs coach in 2004 and outside linebackers from 2005 through 2010.
He joined David Shaw’s staff in 2011 to work as co-defensive coordinator and linebackers, replacing Vic Fangio, who joined Jim Harbaugh with the 49ers.
Tarver, 37, attended Foothill High in Pleasanton and also played at West Valley College after Santa Clara cut it football program in 1994-95.
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I don’t watch college ball. How was Stanford’s Defense last year ???
February 6th, 2012 at 7:19 am
818.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Good morning Hwnrdr!
at least that 49er lovin’ qu33r Tom Brady didn’t win another ring
pretty sweet to see Coughlin & Manning snag another ring from Belicheat & Pretty Boy
Yup, I agree! 49er fans last night was saying that “at least Brady is still not better than Montana!” I had to chime in with…you don’t even know who Montana is! Many of them don’t…they only know that he’s the one that got them 4 SBs!
February 6th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Joe Montana is the greatest QB I have ever seen play. Brady is good, but no Montana.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:23 am
As a fan of Joe Montana (Due to his ND connection) I must say that I looked at my wife last night after the game and said, “Joe Montana wouldn’t have lost that game.”
I think you can put to bed the Brady vs Montana talk for good now.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Like Aaron Rodgers & Drew Brees, Brady’s receiving options failed him in the postseason …
WR’s, TE’s, RB’s, FB’s – you name it
February 6th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Montana did have pretty good defenses and played with the greatest WR ever. If Brady had Rice, or even someone as good as any of the Giants receivers, Patriots would have won game easily. That team was all Brady this year.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:30 am
the Pats’ window is closing.
Brady turns 35 years old before the next NFL season
the Colts window has already closed with Peyton’s bent neck
the Donkeys, Texans & Bungles made the playoffs last year for pete’s sake!
the AFC is ripe for the picking next year. McKenzie & Allen are the men to get us there
February 6th, 2012 at 7:33 am
MONTANA DID WIN A COUPLE OF SB’S B4 JERRY RICE ARRIVED.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Montana v. Brady is a lot like Kobe v. Jordan….Brady and Kobe are two of the greatest of all time, but they are not Montana and Jordan, respectively.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:35 am
AGREE DAKOTA
February 6th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I was uber pizzed when Al didn’t go after Montana when the 49ers dumped him.
We signed every other ex-49er for fks sake!
Lott, Rice, Rathman, Craig, Romo….
February 6th, 2012 at 7:40 am
834.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 7:33 am
MONTANA DID WIN A COUPLE OF SB’S B4 JERRY RICE ARRIVED.
You are correct there! But the first 2 he also had Dwight Clark and a very good defense!
February 6th, 2012 at 7:42 am
830.Dakota Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 7:23 am
As a fan of Joe Montana (Due to his ND connection) I must say that I looked at my wife last night after the game and said, “Joe Montana wouldn’t have lost that game.”
I think you can put to bed the Brady vs Montana talk for good now.
Agreed!
February 6th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I was uber pizzed when Al didn’t go after Montana when the 49ers dumped him.
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Dakota = Jeff Hostetler hater ???
February 6th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I don’t hate Hoss, but when you have a chance to get a great player…..
February 6th, 2012 at 7:49 am
montana > brady…
montana played in the real football era…
You could hit players, esp the QB…
NFL = National Fineness League
February 6th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Jeff Hostetler was a stud QB for us in ‘93 & ‘94 when Montana played for KC.
O-Line gave up 50 sacks in ‘93
RB’s were Greg Robinson & Nick Bell
O-Line gave up 50 sacks in ‘94 as well!
RB’s were Harvey Williams and Tyrone Montgomery
February 6th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Still no DC?
I just heard that Goodell may axe the probowl! It’s about time they shut that shlt show down.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:51 am
I don’t hate Hoss, but when you have a chance to get a great player…..
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Dakota,
Hoss was a great player. He didn’t have an O-Line or running game!
February 6th, 2012 at 7:52 am
843.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Jeff Hostetler was a stud QB for us in ‘93 & ‘94 when Montana played for KC.
O-Line gave up 50 sacks in ‘93
RB’s were Greg Robinson & Nick Bell
O-Line gave up 50 sacks in ‘94 as well!
RB’s were Harvey Williams and Tyrone Montgomery
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Hoss held onto the ball too long lol.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Just like with Manning, if we had not traded for Palmer I would be yelling for us to make a run at Manning this offseason.
Heck, if we could trade Palmer for a 2nd rounder and sign Manning for 3 years, I would be down with that!
February 6th, 2012 at 7:55 am
DONALD HOLLIS >JEFF HOSTETLER
February 6th, 2012 at 8:02 am
brady could not have played in the 70’s and 80’s… No qb protection back then…
February 6th, 2012 at 8:03 am
rapistburger is one of the only qb’s in ths “modern era” that could attempt to play.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Kobe will be greater than jordan so don’t use that comparison.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
What’s up Thec?! I hear ya…brady would have cried with his first experience of getting blasted by Tatum, Atkinson…
February 6th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Hwnrdr, whats good?
brady would have cried with his first experience of getting blasted by Tatum, Atkinson…
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Truth
February 6th, 2012 at 8:08 am
851.DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Kobe will be greater than jordan so don’t use that comparison.
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I am a Lakers fan and no fan of Jordan’s, but I can admit that Kobe isn’t on Jordan’s level. Close, but not there.
But Jordan is nowhere near Magic’s level!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Brady is overrated.
Manning > Brady
February 6th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I just heard that Goodell may axe the probowl!
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CW,
Richard Seymour may as well retire then. He’ll finish this season and collect his $15 million though.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Al Davis made the final call on cutting Sterling Moore first for Porter, then for Parker. However Al Davis wasnt around the practice field this year. They never really gave Moore a fair shot. He was the last guy in the preseason games playing only against the scrubs. It didnt matter that he played well because he wasnt playing against the better players. Porter was on the field first in preseason and made some big special teams plays. We also had 4 drafted CBs and Sheppard all getting the real attention and opportunity in training camp. Moore’s only chance was the practice squad which he made. However Al Davis also had his eyes on Parker who was on Seattle’s practice squad. When we needed a CB, Davis signed 40 time wonder Parker and cut Moore.
The lockout didnt help but the bottum line is that guys like Ward, Walter McFadden, Van Dyke, and Chekwa were drafted and given much more opportunity because of their 40 times.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
851.DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Kobe will be greater than jordan so don’t use that comparison.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Please share what you are smoking.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Jordan is better than:
Kobe, Wade, Hanes, Rose, Durant, erc….
February 6th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Wade, James*, ….
February 6th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Jordan’s legacy is tainted as he never had to go through the Celtics or Lakers in their prime, and didn’t get through the Pistons until they were old azz too.
Then he got to play in the expansion era when the talent level was really dried up.
But, since the media sucked his blz, everyone thinks he was the greatest of all time…..but the greatest of all time was Wilt.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:16 am
There will never be another Jordan. NEVER!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:17 am
uglyorc Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Al Davis made the final call on cutting Sterling Moore first for Porter, then for Parker. However Al Davis wasnt around the practice field this year. They never really gave Moore a fair shot. He was the last guy in the preseason games playing only against the scrubs. It didnt matter that he played well because he wasnt playing against the better players. Porter was on the field first in preseason and made some big special teams plays. We also had 4 drafted CBs and Sheppard all getting the real attention and opportunity in training camp. Moore’s only chance was the practice squad which he made. However Al Davis also had his eyes on Parker who was on Seattle’s practice squad. When we needed a CB, Davis signed 40 time wonder Parker and cut Moore.
The lockout didnt help but the bottum line is that guys like Ward, Walter McFadden, Van Dyke, and Chekwa were drafted and given much more opportunity because of their 40 times.
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Good point. I’d like to add that Davis’ spies and his inner circle of wizards gave him bad advice and poor reports, especially with the #1 pick a few years ago. How could he still have trusted them after that?
And BTW, any truth to the rumor HueJacks could be coming back as Raiders QB coach?
February 6th, 2012 at 8:19 am
And BTW, any truth to the rumor HueJacks could be coming back as Raiders QB coach?
Huh? Seriously? I guess a man has to swallow his pride!!!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:20 am
101Raider Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:17 am
And BTW, any truth to the rumor HueJacks could be coming back as Raiders QB coach?
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We’ll have men on Mars first.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Dakota Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:08 am
851.DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Kobe will be greater than jordan so don’t use that comparison.
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I am a Lakers fan and no fan of Jordan’s, but I can admit that Kobe isn’t on Jordan’s level. Close, but not there.
But Jordan is nowhere near Magic’s level!
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Huh???
February 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
I have to be smoking to say kb24 will be greater than mj, not saying hes better right now but after we win championship this yr. thre will be talks of it.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:25 am
uglyorc,
if Hue Jackson thought Sterling Moore was a stud, we could have signed him off of the Patriots practice squad after Al’s passing!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Quote form Giselle:
“You [have] to catch the ball when you’re supposed to catch the ball,” she said in a video posted by TheInsider.com, via TBL. “My husband cannot f–king throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time. I can’t believe they dropped the ball so many times.”
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Tom, you may want to keep your woman quiet. She isn’t helping your cause at all.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:33 am
And BTW, any truth to the rumor HueJacks could be coming back as Raiders QB coach?
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Ahaha. What do you think?
February 6th, 2012 at 8:37 am
DR55,
Are you a member of The Green Party?
BTW, I’m a Laker Hater.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:38 am
That pass to Gronkowski where he got open behind Chase Blackburn but couldn’t come back for the ball when Brady underthrew it and Blackburn intercepted it:
All the Semi-pros in here was upset at McClain in coverage deep on Megatron but I told you dorks that a MLB job is to drop back into coverage and when its done right like we saw with Blackburn the MLB can make a play on the ball.
Players that make plays on defense no matter what the scheme is what we need not a better scheme!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:41 am
uglyorc,
if Hue Jackson thought Sterling Moore was a stud, we could have signed him off of the Patriots practice squad after Al’s passing!
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Like I said Al Davis wasnt on the practice field. It was the Raider coaches who didnt put Moore in the preseason games until scrub time. It was the coaches who didnt give him any first team practice reps. Davis had too many health problems to be there. NOBODY gave Moore an equal opportunity. All this Hue talk and Al Davis talk is 99 percent bull. I dont care about the bull. What I’m saying is that Moore never got a fair shot. I’m not blaming an individual, it was a team effort like everythign else.
BTW, nobody should think Sterling Moore is a stud. Even in New England he’s on the bubble.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Jordan > Magic
February 6th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Magic > Kobe
February 6th, 2012 at 8:43 am
That Laker team with Magic was loaded with talent. It wasn’t all Magic.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Moore may be on the bubble because it is NE and Bellicheck, who cut a wr the day before the SB…you need to really perform under him! But, Sterling Moore had a dam good last 4 games to end the season!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:46 am
BTW, what are we talking about the Fakers on a Raiders blog.
Real men wear black not purple!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Hue Jackson had about 6 weeks to get Sterling Moore back (after Al Davis passed) before the Pats promoted him to the 53 man roster and made him active in games …
He chopped Jerome Boyd & Joe Porter and replaced them with Chinedum Ndukwe & Lito Sheppard instead
then added Jerome Boyd to the practice squad.
then chopped Ndukwe and added Boyd back to the 53!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Ndukwe was a good addition. Massive upgrade over Boyd. Shame he got hurt again.
But cutting Ron Parker and signing Moore of the Pats practice squad should have been a no-brainer.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:51 am
880.YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Ndukwe was a good addition. Massive upgrade over Boyd. Shame he got hurt again.
But cutting Ron Parker and signing Moore of the Pats practice squad should have been a no-brainer.
Especially when he was the only one shutting down D Moore!
February 6th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Puzzling, and then he cuts Hagan for Doucheyermomma. The beginning of the end for Baby Huey!
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RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Hue Jackson had about 6 weeks to get Sterling Moore back (after Al Davis passed) before the Pats promoted him to the 53 man roster and made him active in games …
He chopped Jerome Boyd & Joe Porter and replaced them with Chinedum Ndukwe & Lito Sheppard instead
February 6th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Correction: it wasn’t 6 weeks
Hue Jackson had a full month to get the Antioch native back to Oakland …
Al Davis passed on 10/08.
Sterling Moore was signed to the Pats active roster on 11/09.
February 6th, 2012 at 8:53 am
I’m sure Hue was watching the game yesterday and kept seeing S Moore making plays in the post season. I doubt he never questioned himself though, obviously
February 6th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Raider o , I am a fug every other team thats not Raiders or Lakers. Your opinion don’t count if your a hater, I am not a Jordan hater he was a beast and clutch , but mamba is a bad mo fo too and would of done the same damage back in Jordan era, seems like their is more competition in kobes era and he still got 5 rings to back hand a fucgin laker hater .
February 6th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:03 am
What’s up DMAC?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:08 am
DR55,
LOL
Real men wear black not purple.
Go Raiders!!!
Go Buckeyes!!!
Go Aztecs!!!
Go Cavs!!!
GO Clippers!!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/06/mrs-brady-rips-toms-teammates-for-dropping-passes/
What a beotch!
Man she should be made to go work at Burger King for 6months and see if her perspective changes any!
Nice to see that Lady Brady can’t control his woman who obviously understands the game of football.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:10 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:03 am
What’s up DMAC?
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Whats your thoughts of the game?
I thought it was a little dull, until the last few minutes of the game.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I actually thought Madonna’s performance was kind of cool.
lol
Was trying to focus on Nicki Minaj’s ass, but the camera work didn’t help at all.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
890.DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:10 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:03 am
What’s up DMAC?
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Whats your thoughts of the game?
I thought it was a little dull, until the last few minutes of the game.
Well, considering I don’t really care for the two teams…I do like the fact that they beat 2 of my top five most hated teams in a row to win the SB! Basically snagging it away from the whining and the poster boy who ironically…got TUCKED!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:16 am
she should be made to go work at Burger King for 6months and see if her perspective changes any!
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Buck,
I don’t see that happening. Gisele would probably go back to modeling and start humping a different QB before that happens
February 6th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Lip sync fest by a geriatric plastic surgeons test dummy.
Really ?
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I actually thought Madonna’s performance was kind of cool.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:16 am
she should be made to go work at Burger King for 6months and see if her perspective changes any!
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Buck,
I don’t see that happening. Gisele would probably go back to modeling and start humping a different QB before that happens
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Don’t ever count out a semi-pro blogger RR.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:17 am
“As a fan of Joe Montana (Due to his ND connection) I must say that I looked at my wife last night after the game and said, “Joe Montana wouldn’t have lost that game.”
“I think you can put to bed the Brady vs Montana talk for good now”
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I was rooting for the Giants, have NY roots, but I think a fair assessment is to say that no way this Pat team in any way resembles any of those 49er teams.
Put Brady on those teams and he wins too. I’m not saying he’s better than Joe; he’s different. Once Joe was slowed by injury, he was a goner. Brady took what for most would have been a career-ending knee injury and still can sidestep the rush when he has some protection.
Truth is, this was a weak Pats team this year and w/out Brady/Welker and two great tight ends they are nothing but mediocre. Their O-line is weak. Even Joe needed that great, great O-line the Niners had.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Lip sync fest by a geriatric plastic surgeons test dummy.
Really ?
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I actually thought Madonna’s performance was kind of cool.
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Name a better performance the last few years?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:21 am
What? You didn’t like The Who a few years ago? LOL
February 6th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I actually thought Madonna’s performance was kind of cool.
lol
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DMAC,
Madonna’s hole is bigger than the one in the middle of the Raiders D-Line.
Dennis Rodman wrecked that!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction didn’t suck.
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Name a better performance the last few years?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Madonna = Courtney Love sober
February 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I actually thought Madonna’s performance was kind of cool.
lol
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DMAC,
Madonna’s hole is bigger than the one in the middle of the Raiders D-Line.
Dennis Rodman wrecked that!
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Not a fan of Madonna, but I’m sure she has the cash to tighten that back up “Like A Virgin”
February 6th, 2012 at 9:25 am
They should have too $hort in next yrs half time show with a bunch of fine azz hos on stage.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:26 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction didn’t suck.
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Name a better performance the last few years?
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The tittie? I thought you was trippin on the plastic surgery?
lol
I’m talking about performance. Yeah she lip sanged, but the set up was kind of cool. If I actually watched a few min. of it, It was better than past half time shows.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:25 am
They should have too $hort in next yrs half time show with a bunch of fine azz hos on stage.
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I can def. dig it.
“Biiiiiiiiiiiiitch!”
February 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
N Minaj sounds like a robot with a short circuit.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:16 am
she should be made to go work at Burger King for 6months and see if her perspective changes any!
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Buck,
I don’t see that happening. Gisele would probably go back to modeling and start humping a different QB before that happens
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Agreed, but man people are clueless
February 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
The best thing about the halftime show is that it gave me some time to get the eats ready, grab a round of drinks and set the coffee pot up for later.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Janet Jackson hasn’t been hot for about 15 years now!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
N Minaj sounds like a robot with a short circuit.
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Not a fan either.
I just want to fk her!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Funny thing is…all performers lip sync! Have you ever seen a Michael Jackson concert?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop
Oakland Raiders: Just reconfirming what we told you Saturday afternoon. Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has accepted the defensive coordinator job with the Raiders. Done deal.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Janet always scared me…Figured she might turn into Michael in the middle of a sex romp.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Im not even sure she is hot. Once you strip away the makeup and wigs what are you left with?
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Not a fan either.
I just want to fk her!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:32 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Im not even sure she is hot. Once you strip away the makeup and wigs what are you left with?
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Not a fan either.
I just want to fk her!
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Ass and tits bruh
What else could you ask for?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Cant be worse than R Ryan or C Bres and with D Allen overseeing things I expect a little better.
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RaiderDuck Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop
Oakland Raiders: Just reconfirming what we told you Saturday afternoon. Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has accepted the defensive coordinator job with the Raiders. Done deal.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
- silicone
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Ass and tits bruh
What else could you ask for?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Best super bowl moment???????
That little string of hear sticking out of Woodhead’s helmet. Priceless.
(I kept laughing. I don’t know why?)
February 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
- silicone
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Ass and tits bruh
What else could you ask for?
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I ain’t trippin, but didn’t you say you liked Janet’s?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
lol that was funny it looked like a feather
February 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Well, if it doesn’t last with Tommy there’s always Beeecham’s party boat for Giselle.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Janet’s not silicone but yeah that was as cool of a halftime moment we will see in our lifetime. She’s nothing extraordinary but i’ll take that between quarters.
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DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
I ain’t trippin, but didn’t you say you liked Janet’s?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Nicki Minaj looks like your typical ghetto skank. MIA is much hotter.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Dennis Rodman wrecked that!
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lol
February 6th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Really makes me laugh that the media is blaming Gronkowski for Chase Blackburn’s pick. They’re all “he couldn’t jump high enough!” The ball was WAY underthrown. Brady is to blame, not the TE who couldn’t jump over the top of the linebacker and catch the ball in front of the guy’s chest.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Bad drafting finally caught up with Bill Belichick last night.
I mean, they did make the Super Bowl and could have won the game, so they’re obviously not doing all that bad.
But Belichick’s often praised draft maneuverings where he stockpiles tons of picks has not paid off as expected.
Since the Pats started trading down for more picks back in 09 they have had 17 picks in the first 3 rounds but by my count they only have 5 or 6 starters out of those picks and just one truly outstanding player (Gronkowski).
Belichick’s a great Coach, I really like him and nobody beats him at picking up players nobody wants and have them contribute but if he could draft better he’d have a juggernaut out there.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
#925: That was a floater Goldilocks threw up in a panic.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Albert Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Nicki Minaj looks like your typical ghetto skank. MIA is much hotter.
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Dude, MIA is another skank. Having been around lots of beautiful Pakis…she ugly bro.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Patriots lost because their defense was not Super Bowl quality. Looked almost as bad as Raider D at times.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Racist.
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Albert Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Nicki Minaj looks like your typical ghetto skank. MIA is much hotter.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Aig the “skank” detector, lol too funny!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop
Oakland Raiders: Just reconfirming what we told you Saturday afternoon. Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has accepted the defensive coordinator job with the Raiders. Done deal.
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thanks, Duck!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Man, I love the Giants front 4. That is a hard core front four. They dont look out of shape and they can get to the QB from any position. One thing Al Davis is right about….the QB must go down. Supposedly the Giants wanted Romac and they took JPP as a 2nd option. Dang it. This is the one time Al should have gone with combine stats.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:47 am
ESPN is reporting that Brian Daboll, former Dolphins and Browns offensive coordinator, has accepted the same role with the Chiefs
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Al Saunders re-assigned to the Raiders scouting dept?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Hey idiot. MIA is not Pakistani. She is Sri Lankin. She is still better looking than Minaj.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:48 am
YoungAmerican Says:
Really makes me laugh that the media is blaming Gronkowski for Chase Blackburn’s pick.
They’re all “he couldn’t jump high enough!” The ball was WAY underthrown. Brady is to blame, not the TE who couldn’t jump over the top of the linebacker and catch the ball in front of the guy’s chest.
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Really?.
I agree with you, Gronkowski was playing on a high ankle sprain and obviously could not jump very high, plus Blackburn is 6′3 so it’s not like Gronk could have just reached over a 5′10 CB or Safety and pick up the ball.
And alse the Welker “drop” come on, that was a tough catch to make, Brady’s pass off the mark, the location was not that bad but it was too high, it’s one thing to turn around and catch it, Welker would have pulled that off, but having to turn and jump because the ball was over his head made it a real difficult catch.
That was on Brady too.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Aig the “skank” detector, lol too funny!
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Grew up in East San Jose with the Chicanos and used to do the cruising thing on Story and King. Lived right next door to the Projects in the Dirty South for 3.5 yrs recently. Enough street cred for you Brownie?
February 6th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Skank-hos…I’ve seen better looking women in soup kitchen lines.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Blackburn is 6′3 so it’s not like Gronk could have just reached over a 5′10 CB or Safety and pick up the ball.
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My thoughts exactly. Gronkowski would have had to jump over a 6′3 LB, reach back down to the level of Blackburn’s chest, and then outreach him to even knock the ball down.
Terrible throw by Brady. Key mistake in a game where it looked like the first team to make one would cost themselves the game.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop
Oakland Raiders: Just reconfirming what we told you Saturday afternoon. Stanford co-defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has accepted the defensive coordinator job with the Raiders. Done deal.
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thanks, Duck!
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I posted a couple days a gao that it wouldn’t surprise me to see Allen go with a younger guy he could mold. Should be intersting between Rookie GM/HC/DC to see how this season unfolds. We will have 10 wins or 6
February 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
*ago
February 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
The key to the game and momentum changer was the Welker dropped pass. Yeah, it wasn’t perfect, but he still should of caught it.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:53 am
*interesting
I’m a typo machine!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:53 am
What’s wrong with skanks those are the ones you be rough with and are the freaks in bed. We need them in this world.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Rodney Harrison, of all people, said that he’d take Eli over Goldilocks with the game on the line late in the 4th.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Albert,
Sorry if I said she was Pakis….to me, they’re all Indians by culture. Minaj and MIA still both ugly.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
945.CanuckRaider Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Rodney Harrison, of all people, said that he’d take Eli over Goldilocks with the game on the line late in the 4th.
I know…but funny how at half time, he was praising Brady at being the best in the game!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
“DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Name a better performance the last few years?”
Prince in the rain, Colts Bears Super Bowl he played guitar like Jimi Hendrix and sang like Otis Redding!
The guy is a phenomenal musician no matter all the guy jokes I will now hear about the guy but he sure can play!
February 6th, 2012 at 9:56 am
#944: Agreed…Just have to make sure the roll-ups are extra thick.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Aig, your ghetto stats are very impressive.
lol
February 6th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Eli is ice cold man. Dude may not put up great numbers but he can handle pressure moments really well.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Aig lived nextdoor to a gang so he knows whats up in regard to “skanks”
lmao
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CanuckRaider Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Skank-hos…I’ve seen better looking women in soup kitchen lines.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:58 am
#947: Yeah…After all of his Patsies cheer-leading the last few years that really stunned me.
February 6th, 2012 at 9:59 am
I remember our good ole friend priesttj in here bashing Eli just before KK Munster ran him out…
tj, you might wanna just keep lurking a few more months longer, haha
February 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Mistabrown,
I didnt realize you have to be in a “gang” to know what a skank is? Much kudos to you man. You a gangster bro? Damn proud of you man.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
#952: Worked with a dude who used to run down everyone’s taste in women…Then he was spotted cruising the low track a few times…Karma.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Don’t really care for Eli, but you know what? You have to give it up to him! He was under pressure the last 2 games, getting sacked like what? 9 times total! He still made the plays when asked of him!
February 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
No those are your words not mine.
You cant remember what you posted 5 mins ago ?
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aig-raiders Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Mistabrown,
I didnt realize you have to be in a “gang” to know what a skank is? Much kudos to you man. You a gangster bro? Damn proud of you man.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Winning is what the game’s all about…and Eli is a winner.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Please show where I said anything about “gang”. Brownie, your life is sad bro. Is that what you get off to everyday? Pls tell me your life has more sunshine than whining on this blog day after day.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Ok Aig you said “projects” not “gangs” because those two dont go hand in hand.
My bad.
haha
February 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Another bad coaching move by Belicheat – Dressing the rookie RB instead of Faulk. Faulk might be 36 but that guy has always made big plays at important times for them. Would’ve given Brady another weapon coming out of the backfield.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Eli owns Brady and I think we can all thank him because now we do not have to endure an off season of Bellichick and Brady masturbation by the media for another 7 months.
Blah Blah Blah Brady is Montana blah blah the greatest ever to walk the earth blah blah.
Eli thank you so much from sparing us the off season of Brady suckling!
February 6th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Aig, you are a authority on skanks because you cruised east SJ and lived nextdoor to projects…
I get it ok!
haha
February 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Well, it’s off to read the whining in the Boston papers for a bit of cruel humor.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Aig, you are a authority on skanks because you cruised east SJ and lived nextdoor to projects…
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According to you I am. That’s good enough for me. If this makes your day brighter go ahead. You’re welcome.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
A year from today we’ll be talking about our Raider super Sunday victory!
February 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Eli owns Brady…
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He sure did. 2 SBs to prove it too.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Not your average semi pros
http://www.raidernationstation.com/
February 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
967.DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
A year from today we’ll be talking about our Raider super Sunday victory!
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Raiders pay 51:1 to win SB next year.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Eli owns Brady and I think we can all thank him because now we do not have to endure an off season of Bellichick and Brady masturbation by the media for another 7 months.
Blah Blah Blah Brady is Montana blah blah the greatest ever to walk the earth blah blah.
Eli thank you so much from sparing us the off season of Brady suckling!
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well said bra
February 6th, 2012 at 10:32 am
We need a NT.
My FA wish list:
DE: Mario Williams
G: C Nicks/ B Grubbs
CB: T Porter
HB: Tolbert/ Hillis
NT: Bunkley/ Sammie LH
It’s not a good year for OTs, so let’s hope Campbell can play RT.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Jason Tarver worked under Mike Nolan 2005-2008
He worked with Mike Singletary 2005-2008
He worked for Mike Singletary 2009-2010
He worked with Derek Mason 2011
He graduated from Santa Clara with a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry in 1997. got his masters degree @ UCLA
Allen is a DB Coach. Mason is a DB Coach. Tarver himself played DB in college
Jason Tarver looks to be a tough, smart guy!
check him out:
http://www.49ers.com/news-and-events/article-2/Coach-Tarver-Lab-to-the-Gridiron-/e5b2c709-3086-4eaf-af7f-5b2001c63c20
February 6th, 2012 at 10:33 am
962.CanuckRaider Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Another bad coaching move by Belicheat – Dressing the rookie RB instead of Faulk. Faulk might be 36 but that guy has always made big plays at important times for them. Would’ve given Brady another weapon coming out of the backfield.
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That was pretty disrespectful I thought. Faulk has been on that team forever, how do you bench him in favour of Ridley with his fumblitis? The guy made a living and was one of the better 3rd down backs for a number of years.
Looks good on bellicheat.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Thats a cool list O.
Except for Porter. He’s a good corner, but is injury prone.
I’d take Aaron Ross for the G-Men at a cheaper price.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
We should also resign Branch & Dez.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
We should also resign Branch & Dez.
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Bring back Branch, but don’t over pay.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:38 am
I wonder if Jason Tarver can lure Derek Mason from Stanford as Raiders DB Coach?
that would be sweet!
February 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
DMAC,
You are right. He hasn’t played a full season yet, but that’s why I think we can get him chrap, and if he stays healthy, then he can be special.
He has Raiders speed.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
My wish list:
DE – Williams would be immense, but Avril would be slightly more practical. Similar player to Dumervil.
CB – Tracy Porter would be ideal because of his connection to Dennis Allen, but Richard Marshall would be an inexpensive consolation prize.
DT – Broderick Bunkley would be a nice stopgap until the Raiders can find a good young 1-tech DT – or until the rookie the Raiders find is ready for a starting role. Bunkley played very well for Allen in Denver.
LB – Wesley Woodyard would be a nice depth piece, and if the Raiders end up cutting Curry, Woodyard would get his chance to start. Athletic LB who played well in Allen’s system, and would provide a backup option even if Allen trades up for a player like Bobby Wagner.
RB – There’s a good chance Bush will price himself out of what is practical for the Raiders. Mike Tolbert could come a little cheaper, and BenJarvus Green-Ellis would be another solid change-of-pace back.
Backup QB – Chad Henne or Shaun Hill would be ideal, but they might want more than the Raiders are prepared to offer. But the Raiders need to upgrade their backup QB position.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Thanks for the link RRS.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
the Raiders new coaching staff intrigues me.
so far it’s filled with a bunch of family guys that are tireless workers and dont take crap from anybody. they are young & smart. with a lot to prove
2012 Raiders = 12-4
print it
February 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
so, which one of the blog setters will sober up first and post an entry, Corky or JerryMc?
February 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
“DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Name a better performance the last few years?”
Prince in the rain, Colts Bears Super Bowl he played guitar like Jimi Hendrix and sang like Otis Redding!
The guy is a phenomenal musician no matter all the guy jokes I will now hear about the guy but he sure can play!
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I agree. Prince is the best halftime show I can remember in recent years.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Cheap
February 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Not Tom Brady’s finest hour, if they’re looking for someone to blame out there, # 12 made the key mistakes.
First of all, not Brady’s call, but it was not a good idea to call for a 7 step drop where Brady had to go back to his own end zone on the 1st play from your own 6 yard line against the NYG pass-rush, that’s what they do best!.
I’m guessing it was a 7 step drop since Brady took the snap on his 6 and dropped all the way back to his end zone.
But still, he had someone running a crossing pattern from left to right, he could have thrown the ball at him or to the sidelines and it would not have been a safety, he had a guy on his face but this is Tom Brady we’re talking bout, not your average starting QB.
And Brady missed 2 key throws, he underthrew the 6′7 Gronkowski and overthrew the 5′9 Welker, with Gronkoswki a better throw and he may get it, but the smart thing to do was to pick up a yard or two and slide or just throw it away since he was out of the pocket and with Welker it was just too high, had Welker not had to jump in addition to turn his body around, he makes the catch.
On the other hand, with the outcome on the line, Eli comes up with the throw of the game(Manningham).
But Brady will probably get a free pass from most of the media.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
I love this kid, i would trade our entire team to get him.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/02/03/robert-griffin/index.html
February 6th, 2012 at 10:42 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
so, which one of the blog setters will sober up first and post an entry, Corky or JerryMc?
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Won’t be Cork. He was probably out late last night partying. I heard the guy likes to do keg stands.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:43 am
i would trade our entire team to get him (RG3)
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I would trade Seymour, Kelly & McClain to the Pats in exchange for Vince Wilfork
plus both tradeable draft picks this year (5th & 6th)
February 6th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Calias Campbell is a beast at end, but he’ll probably be franchised by the Cards.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Steve Corkran is doing his research.
Perhaps he doesn’t think this is a legit source?
http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop
WIKI already ran with it. Cork has “his sources” and I’m sure he’s calling, sending texts & emails trying to verify this info as we speak – unless he already has and is writing up a nice bio on the guy
February 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
YA,
I like Henne more than Hill.
Yes Bo. I know he is from Mich.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Channing Crowder should also get a look at. Sure he’s making a comeback, but he only played 6 nfl seasons. Should have something left in the tank.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am
984.Albert Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
“DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Name a better performance the last few years?”
Prince in the rain, Colts Bears Super Bowl he played guitar like Jimi Hendrix and sang like Otis Redding!
The guy is a phenomenal musician no matter all the guy jokes I will now hear about the guy but he sure can play!
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I agree. Prince is the best halftime show I can remember in recent years.
^^^^^^^^
Prince was fantastic in Miami in the rain!
Bruce Springstein and E Street band were great. Tom Petty was great….I thought Black Eyed Peas were good.
Rolling Stones were great!
Madonna was saved last night by LMFAO, MIA, and that slacklining guy with the afro doing the wire tricks.
She was underwhelming and Celo was nothing special.
Ending the set/act with ‘Like a Prayer” was a bad choice!
February 6th, 2012 at 10:54 am
If Tarver learned everything he knows about coaching defense from Mike Nolan & Mike Singletary I think it’s safe to say the Raiders will run a 3-4 Defense next season … even if it’s not our primary “base” defense
interesting.
Manusky = 3-4 coach
Whitt Jr. = 3-4 coach
Bill Johnson = 4-3 coach
Richard Smith = 4-3 coach
February 6th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Ending the set/act with ‘Like a Prayer” was a bad choice!
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It must have inspired that last pass by Tom Brady to his 2 big TE’s surrounded by 5 G-Men
February 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am
CanuckRaider Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Janet always scared me…Figured she might turn into Michael in the middle of a sex romp.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
In the running for post of the week…
BTW, janet is hot…
February 6th, 2012 at 10:58 am
have the Patriots cut ties with dead weight Chad Ochocinco and traded half of the guys in their secondary for 7th round picks yet?
February 6th, 2012 at 10:59 am
JeromeBoyd_ Jerome Boyd
“@B2Davis44: Just saw a guy smoking crack @10:30am on the street in downtown Oakland #Fasho”<<~~~ hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha JOKES
48 seconds ago
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Little does he know that he saw B@uce, one of the Raiders most loyal fans.
February 6th, 2012 at 10:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
the Raiders new coaching staff intrigues me.
so far it’s filled with a bunch of family guys that are tireless workers and dont take crap from anybody. they are young & smart. with a lot to prove
2012 Raiders = 12-4
print it
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Yeah, sure seems so. That Tarver guy is pretty impressive.
I’m thinking the Raiders will pursue those types of players, too. Character guys.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:00 am
yesterday was a good day…brady loses…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:00 am
YESSSSSSS!
Way to go Giants by beating the Pats…AGAIN!
I lost my full game bet, but I won side bets, UNDER in first half and for the whole game and won prop bet with Tynes making over 1.5 FG’s.
Screw Belicheat, Shady Brady and the Pats!
Pats 0-2 in post Spygate Super Bowls!
Eli IS Elite!
The refs tried to help the Pats a bit with the non PI calls and by by that BS holding call on the Giant when they converted the 1st down and were going to score on that drive.
Where are the Sterling Moore lovers in here again? He is what we thought he was. If he was still on Raiders, he would have been called for PI’s all over the place in this game! haha
Manningham makes the amazing catch and Welker doesn’t…plain and simple.
Pats do not take advantage of Giants fumbles.
I knew Gronk would be ineffective, but I would have thought Giants would have covered Hernandez more tightly than they did.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:00 am
For next year:
Set the DT rotation with Kelly and Seymour handling one spot and sharing playing time instead of lining up next to each other so we can get the most out of both.
They are older players and their productivity would go up seeing less snaps.
The other DT spot should be handled by Houston and Bryant.
Those two are young, fast, strong and hungry, they can bring a lot of energy inside, DE is not their best position, even if they can play there in a pinch, Houston and Bryant need to become full-time DT’s so we can see what we have in them.
That doesn’t mean we can’t play those guys together at times.
Shaughnessy has obviously secured an End spot, but maybe he switches to the Left side and Kamerion Wimbley plays the Right side, Dennis Allen went with Dummervil at that spot in Denver, both are undersized pass-rushers DE/LB hybrids.
At least until we find a complete DE to start opposite Shaughnessy, maybe with our 1st rounder in 2013.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
I’m thinking the Raiders will pursue those types of players, too. Character guys.
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Agreed however, this may mean doom for our ILB impersonating a MLB…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
anybody seen DD?
imagine if the Pats signed Matt Giordano instead of Oakland !!!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Plus the commercials SUCKED overall….AGAIN!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Stanford co-defensive coordinator / inside linebackers coach Jason Tarver is likely to be announced as the Oakland Raiders defensive coordinator early this week
http://www.coachingsearch.com/home/304-a-ton-of-coaching-movement-expected-this-week.html
February 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
We need to bring in a real NT for the Dline.
The only time the D trench has looked good was when Henderson was playing. He is injury prone most the time, so we need a couple of young guys, that can stuff the run…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
FK the G-Men 2!
But I do give them credit for beating the patsies twice.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
YESSSSSSS!
Way to go Giants by beating the Pats…AGAIN!
I lost my full game bet, but I won side bets, UNDER in first half and for the whole game and won prop bet with Tynes making over 1.5 FG’s.
Screw Belicheat, Shady Brady and the Pats!
Pats 0-2 in post Spygate Super Bowls!
Eli IS Elite!
The refs tried to help the Pats a bit with the non PI calls and by by that BS holding call on the Giant when they converted the 1st down and were going to score on that drive.
Where are the Sterling Moore lovers in here again? He is what we thought he was. If he was still on Raiders, he would have been called for PI’s all over the place in this game! haha
Manningham makes the amazing catch and Welker doesn’t…plain and simple.
Pats do not take advantage of Giants fumbles.
I knew Gronk would be ineffective, but I would have thought Giants would have covered Hernandez more tightly than they did!
Way to pull it out Giants!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
DKnight007 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Plus the commercials SUCKED overall….AGAIN!
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Agreed..a couple were funny however by and large sucked…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:06 am
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
FK the G-Men 2!
But I do give them credit for beating the patsies twice.
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Flat out… fuk them and the horses they ride…
good to see brady get a swift kic int the azz…
brady needs to shut his broad up also…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:07 am
first coordinator hire I’m excited about
February 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
All you wishing on a star for some big FA signings, doubt we do a whole lot in this area. coaches are going to coach up what we have. dangle a few carrots for more picks however, we will be stuck with the sum of parts on this D.
Look for us to be more active in the UDFA market.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Alameda Ta’amu, Kendall Reyes, and Nick Jean-Baptiste should all be draft targets for the Raiders.
Broderick Bunkley is a low-dollar option to fill the 4-3 1-tech role if whatever rookie they find isn’t quite ready for a starting job.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Only question I have is who was the brains behind wacking sterling moore?????
February 6th, 2012 at 11:09 am
DKnight007 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
YESSSSSSS!
Way to go Giants by beating the Pats…AGAIN!
I lost my full game bet, but I won side bets, UNDER in first half and for the whole game and won prop bet with Tynes making over 1.5 FG’s.
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I lost a small parlay with the over but Bradshaw falling into the endzone at the end won me large! I had NY -2.5 paying 2.65. If he stops at the one, like Eli was telling him, they probably kick an 18 yard FG and I lose!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:09 am
All you wishing on a star for some big FA signings, doubt we do a whole lot in this area. coaches are going to coach up what we have. dangle a few carrots for more picks however, we will be stuck with the sum of parts on this D.
Look for us to be more active in the UDFA market
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Thec = right again
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Mistic a writer for Silver and Black Pride?
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/2/6/2775428/oakland-raider-thoughts-from-the-cuff-trade-carson-and-keep-campbell
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Thec Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
All you wishing on a star for some big FA signings, doubt we do a whole lot in this area. coaches are going to coach up what we have. dangle a few carrots for more picks however, we will be stuck with the sum of parts on this D.
Look for us to be more active in the UDFA market.
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Who are those carrots Thec?
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Unless we get creative and move some parts around, and get a trade up, Alameda Ta’amu, will not be on the board when we pick…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Steve Corkran suffers from the deadly sin of SLOTH
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Eli is more poised than Peyton in the big games and under pressure.
Peyton tries to do too much and out thinks himself and gets rattled with the happy feet and will make the big mistake or will not convert an important 3rd down.
Eli goes with the flow more, is more poised under pressure and makes the big throws and converts more than Peyton in big games.
This should be obvious by now.
Eli and the Giants did it the hard way and beat the best of the best this in winning their division, beating the best in the NFC playoffs and beating the Pats in the Super Bowl, when they were underdogs again!
I think Eli just solidified himself as my Fantasy Football Franchise Keeper in one of my leagues next year!
Much respect to Eli.
Would have been great if the Raiders had a chance at drafting Eli or Fitz ahead of that mediocre bust Gallery! Dammit!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Thec Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Unless we get creative and move some parts around, and get a trade up, Alameda Ta’amu, will not be on the board when we pick…
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Yeah Ta’amu will be out of the Raiders’ range unless they trade up. They were doing their due diligence on him, but unless they find a way to get into at least the second round (and given that both NYJ and PIT are NT-needy, maybe not even that…), Ta’amu won’t be an option.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:12 am
1016.Thec Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Only question I have is who was the brains behind wacking sterling moore?????
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He looks like one that got a way, doesn’t he. Thanks Huey.
There were a total of 28 undrafted FA’s in last nights game. NY 17 & NE 11
February 6th, 2012 at 11:12 am
YA,
I thought NY was set w/ Pua?
February 6th, 2012 at 11:13 am
And Pitt has Hampton.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:14 am
who was the brains behind wacking sterling moore?????
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My best guess is … Al Davis
However, Hue Jackson had PLENTY of time to get the guy re-signed after Al passed and Moore was promoted to the Pats 53
February 6th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Thec Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
All you wishing on a star for some big FA signings, doubt we do a whole lot in this area. coaches are going to coach up what we have. dangle a few carrots for more picks however, we will be stuck with the sum of parts on this D.
Look for us to be more active in the UDFA market.
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Who are those carrots Thec?
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Slim azz pickens…
JFORD <— Would not want to see it.
LMURPHY
Condo…. lol
DMAC <—-Rumor mill material
the Entire Defensive side of the ball.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:15 am
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:12 am
YA,
I thought NY was set w/ Pua?
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Free agent, old as dirt.
As for Hampton with PIT? Old as dirt AND tore his ACL against the Broncos.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:15 am
YA, you hit it on the head though Bruh…Tamu would look very good in S&B…. He is a monster…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Pitt has Hampton
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DMAC,
Casey Hampton is like 49 years old and just suffered a torn ACL, didn’t he?
February 6th, 2012 at 11:17 am
1025.Carl Weathers Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:12 am
1016.Thec Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Only question I have is who was the brains behind wacking sterling moore?????
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He looks like one that got a way, doesn’t he. Thanks Huey.
There were a total of 28 undrafted FA’s in last nights game. NY 17 & NE 11
^^^^^^^^
Sterling Moore is nothing.
He got beat bad in the Super Bowl. Eli was picking on Moore and he should have been called for at least two PI’s.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I really like UConn’s Kendall Reyes. High motor, very active against the run, and can even get to the passer.
Baylor’s Jean-Baptiste apparently looked very good at the Senior Bowl, but I don’t know as much about him.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Pitt has Hampton
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DMAC,
Casey Hampton is like 49 years old and just suffered a torn ACL, didn’t he?
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I don’t know about the torn acl, but I do know he still can play at 49.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Eli is more poised than Peyton in the big games and under pressure.
Peyton tries to do too much and out thinks himself and gets rattled with the happy feet and will make the big mistake or will not convert an important 3rd down.
Eli goes with the flow more, is more poised under pressure and makes the big throws and converts more than Peyton in big games.
This should be obvious by now.
Eli and the Giants did it the hard way and beat the best of the best this in winning their division, beating the best in the NFC playoffs and beating the Pats in the Super Bowl, when they were underdogs again!
I think Eli just solidified himself as my Fantasy Football Franchise Keeper in one of my leagues next year!
Much respect to Eli.
Would have been great if the Raiders had a chance at drafting Eli or Fitz ahead of that mediocre bust Gallery! Sheesh!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
There were a total of 28 undrafted FA’s in last nights game. NY 17 & NE 11
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Great point Carl…KK made the same point a few blog post ago about how the team’s are made up of UDFA’s.
This is where we need to hope that our GM can excel. A lot of talent will go un-drafted like last year.
the difference is that we may be able to identify and attract the best of this group.
Those guys will have the potential to compeat for a starting position…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
That no-call on Sterling Moore was correct. It wasn’t interference by any stretch of the imagination.
Moore would immediately be the second best CB on the Raiders. He was all of training camp, the entirety of preseason – and now that’s a good, young, inexpensive piece the Raiders don’t have at a position they are VERY weak at.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:20 am
The Chargers in April of 2004 had Eli Manning, Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers on their roster at one point.
The 2 QB’s they let go have won 3 Super Bowls while Rivers has NONE!
Thank you front office of San Diego!!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Thec Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
There were a total of 28 undrafted FA’s in last nights game. NY 17 & NE 11
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Great point Carl…KK made the same point a few blog post ago about how the team’s are made up of UDFA’s.
This is where we need to hope that our GM can excel. A lot of talent will go un-drafted like last year.
the difference is that we may be able to identify and attract the best of this group.
Those guys will have the potential to compeat for a starting position…
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Fan favorite Franz Joesph?
February 6th, 2012 at 11:21 am
A huge NT is coveted by every team in the NFL, you can’t just say let’s get one of those.
They are rare and it goes beyond size, there are tons of DL in college, as well as NFL journeymen, who go 6′3 330 or so, that does not mean they can play NT effectively, most of them are lazy, out of shape and easy to block.
What we need, more than a huge NT, are effective inside players, that means guys who are disrputive enough to command a double team so somebody else can come up and make a tackle, you can get that by being quick, strong or developing great technique.
That’s why I think Houston and Bryant could become real good inside, they have a motor, they are quick for their size and they are strong, they need to work inside full-time, so they can develop their technique and power to handle the point of attack, without having to worry about losing speed to beat OT’s off the edge, something they can’t do if they keep switching back and forth between DE and DT.
Not that they can’t play DE once in a while, their versatility is certainly a plus.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
That no-call on Sterling Moore was correct. It wasn’t interference by any stretch of the imagination.
Moore would immediately be the second best CB on the Raiders. He was all of training camp, the entirety of preseason – and now that’s a good, young, inexpensive piece the Raiders don’t have at a position they are VERY weak at.
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He wouldn’t survive in a silver and black uni. He would get the Stan Routt treatment. PI!!!!!!!!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
No way Minaj is hotter than MIA. And no way MIA is hotter than Minaj.
They’d be lucky to get jobs as anchors on my party boat. I wouldn’t bang them with Albert Puss’s mini weenie.
Madonna was a TRAINWRECK
I wonder if Krappy tried to manually stimulate his junk for her show, but failed miserably due to his Metamucil lunch.
Probably passed out in the broom closet in the 3rd quarter
February 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
One player who seems to have got away from Raiders IF MClain doesn’t start to step it up is Pierre-Paul.
He could have been plugged in as our RDE from the get go.
I think Allen needs to move Wimbley to full time RDE spot and let him just go after QB and cause disruption in the backfield.
Coachime him to hold the edge on run plays shouldn’t be too difficult. He is already a vet now.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am
1043.Master Beeecham Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
No way Minaj is hotter than MIA. And no way MIA is hotter than Minaj.
They’d be lucky to get jobs as anchors on my party boat. I wouldn’t bang them with Albert Puss’s mini weenie.
Madonna was a TRAINWRECK
I wonder if Krappy tried to manually stimulate his junk for her show, but failed miserably due to his Metamucil lunch.
Probably passed out in the broom closet in the 3rd quarter
^^^^^^^^
HAHAHAAAAAAAA!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
That no-call on Sterling Moore was correct. It wasn’t interference by any stretch of the imagination.
Moore would immediately be the second best CB on the Raiders. He was all of training camp, the entirety of preseason – and now that’s a good, young, inexpensive piece the Raiders don’t have at a position they are VERY weak at.
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Nope!
Moore was their way early and if you should know if he was still on Raiders he be getting PI’s all over the place.
That’s the way it is in Raider land.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:29 am
1039.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:20 am
The Chargers in April of 2004 had Eli Manning, Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers on their roster at one point.
The 2 QB’s they let go have won 3 Super Bowls while Rivers has NONE!
Thank you front office of San Diego!!
Actually, Eli was drafted #1 and he aid he didn’t want to play for the Chargers, hence the trade when The Giants drafted Phillip Rivers at #4
February 6th, 2012 at 11:30 am
1041.Marley Bob Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:21 am
A huge NT is coveted by every team in the NFL, you can’t just say let’s get one of those.
They are rare and it goes beyond size, there are tons of DL in college, as well as NFL journeymen, who go 6′3 330 or so, that does not mean they can play NT effectively, most of them are lazy, out of shape and easy to block.
What we need, more than a huge NT, are effective inside players, that means guys who are disrputive enough to command a double team so somebody else can come up and make a tackle, you can get that by being quick, strong or developing great technique.
That’s why I think Houston and Bryant could become real good inside, they have a motor, they are quick for their size and they are strong, they need to work inside full-time, so they can develop their technique and power to handle the point of attack, without having to worry about losing speed to beat OT’s off the edge, something they can’t do if they keep switching back and forth between DE and DT.
Not that they can’t play DE once in a while, their versatility is certainly a plus.
^^^^^^^^^
Exactly!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Moore went over the top at the same time the ball got to the receiver. Hand on the receiver’s back does not equal interference. He made a good play – one of several he made last night. Eli was attacking Arrington and Moulden most of the night.
The Raiders bring the penalties on themselves. Unless they start playing with more discipline, it will always be that way.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Houston should be inside as the 3-tech DT. Bryant should rotate between 3-tech and LDE.
Raiders don’t have a player who can hold the point of attack against double-teams. That’s what a 1-tech DT needs to do on pretty much every play.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Moore went over the top at the same time the ball got to the receiver. Hand on the receiver’s back does not equal interference.
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In Oakland it is.
Ask Stan Routt.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:32 am
1046.DKnight007 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
That no-call on Sterling Moore was correct. It wasn’t interference by any stretch of the imagination.
Moore would immediately be the second best CB on the Raiders. He was all of training camp, the entirety of preseason – and now that’s a good, young, inexpensive piece the Raiders don’t have at a position they are VERY weak at.
^^^^^^^
Nope!
Moore was their way early and if you should know if he was still on Raiders he be getting PI’s all over the place.
That’s the way it is in Raider land.
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Agree 10000% that there would have been AT LEAST 2 penalties called on Moore if he was in Silver and Black.
Those are the EXACT calls Routt gets flagged for weekly.
Complete BS!!!!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Sterling Moore > DVD and Chekwa?
Wasn’t he the talk of camp (Cockran)?
February 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Mistic a writer for Silver and Black Pride?
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/2/6/2775428/oakland-raider-thoughts-from-the-cuff-trade-carson-and-keep-campbell
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LOL no but this is the way i see it. Then there is the last 19 starts for these two qbs, which clearly shows one guy playing high level foot ball and the other floundering.
JC 12-7, with 10 ints
palmer 6-13 with 30 ints, 8 returned for tds
I have to agree with the writer of the article, jc is much better fit, and has some experience in a wco, and played decent football in that system.
One problem though, I just dont believe the rest of the nfl values Carson the way this fan base and hu jacked seemed to. I dont see ant team giving up more than a 3rd rounder for him, maybe a 2nd. i would package him with mcfragile
February 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Thec Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
There were a total of 28 undrafted FA’s in last nights game. NY 17 & NE 11
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Yeah, I expect McK to hit the Undrafted Free Agents hard this offseason.
One of those undrafted free agents was NY Giants FB Henry Hynoski, who I wanted the Raiders to draft in Round 6 last year ahead of TE Richard Gordon!
Another that got away! Damn!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Wah wah wah wah wah Raiders always get called for penalties wah wah wah wah wah wah wah.
Play with more discipline, and you’ll get fewer questionable calls. Play stupid football, and you’ve put a target on your own back.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Wah wah wah wah wah Raiders always get called for penalties wah wah wah wah wah wah wah.
Play with more discipline, and you’ll get fewer questionable calls. Play stupid football, and you’ve put a target on your own back.
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When you are winning 31-3 questionable penalty calls won’t matter.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
It was a penalty.
You can’t wrap your arm around the receiver before the ball gets there, it’s that simple.
That being said, Sterling Moore can play some, he gets burned often but remains close enough to prevent the WR from making the catch … and he’s a rookie making a huge leap in level of competition so he’s bound to have ups and downs but he should play in the league for a while, at least as a Nickel Back.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Moore did not wrap his arm around the receiver. That’s why it wasn’t a penalty.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Sterling Moore would be crap for us.
A bunch of flags and would get beat deep. Who would be the safety helping his cover 2 over the top? Giordano?
Manningham beat Moore for the KEY play on that last drive. Had him beat deep on the series before but Manningham drifted OOB.
Moore is nothing special people.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Marley Bob Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
It was a penalty.
You can’t wrap your arm around the receiver before the ball gets there, it’s that simple.
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I dont think its called that way any longer, you can have your hand or arm on the wr, but you cant hold him, or turn him or otherwise interfere with his ability to get his hands on the ball
February 6th, 2012 at 11:39 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Moore did not wrap his arm around the receiver. That’s why it wasn’t a penalty.
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It wasn’t a penalty, because he plays for the Pats.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Moore is nothing special people.
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And he would still be the #2 CB in Oakland.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Sterling Moore would be crap for us.
A bunch of flags and would get beat deep. Who would be the safety helping his cover 2 over the top? Giordano?
Manningham beat Moore for the KEY play on that last drive. Had him beat deep on the series before but Manningham drifted OOB.
Moore is nothing special people.
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Thank you!
He’s ok, but nothing special.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Moore is nothing special people.
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And he would still be the #2 CB in Oakland.
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Healthy CJ > Moore
February 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
And when, exactly, was Chris Johnson healthy last season?
February 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Everyone has their opinions and I have mine…remember reports about Denarius Moore beating CJ and Routt on a routine basis…and the only one constantly challeging Moore, was Sterling Moore! I say he could have been something! This past year, maybe not considering we were the most penalized team, but with the coaching change, he could have been something!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
And when, exactly, was Chris Johnson healthy last season?
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Never said he was.
When healthy, CJ > Moore
Thats what I meant to say
February 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
YA,
They replayed that one play several times. All the announcers agreed that was PI.
I actually don’t think it “should” have been PI just like I don’t think a lot of the calls against Routt were justified.
Your wah wah wah comments are ridiculous. No one is talking about jumping offsides or personal foul penalties. PI and illegal contact are completely subjective. Let them play for crying out loud!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
And when, exactly, was Chris Johnson healthy last season?
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better question when has he ever been healthy? He had injury issues before coming to oakland, and they have only continued
February 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
YA,
They replayed that one play several times. All the announcers agreed that was PI.
I actually don’t think it “should” have been PI just like I don’t think a lot of the calls against Routt were justified.
Your wah wah wah comments are ridiculous. No one is talking about jumping offsides or personal foul penalties. PI and illegal contact are completely subjective. Let them play for crying out loud!
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I got your back w/ this one J Heezy!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
And I will take an agressive penalty any day then a dumb a** penalty! Unfortunately, Routt has also made those!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
And he would still be the #2 CB in Oakland
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Really?
Well he’s a FA as of now.
Let’s see if the GM and HC agree with you.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
And when, exactly, was Chris Johnson healthy last season?
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better question when has he ever been healthy? He had injury issues before coming to oakland, and they have only continued
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The year he took over for Hall, and did a fine job the rest of the season.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
1074.DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
And when, exactly, was Chris Johnson healthy last season?
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better question when has he ever been healthy? He had injury issues before coming to oakland, and they have only continued
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The year he took over for Hall, and did a fine job the rest of the season.
Hence the big contract!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I think Aaron Ross can be good player for us and we won’t have to break the bank to sign him.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:42 am
And when, exactly, was Chris Johnson healthy last season?
===============
better question when has he ever been healthy? He had injury issues before coming to oakland, and they have only continued
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The year he took over for Hall, and did a fine job the rest of the season.
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exactly my point, he wasnt the starter for the full year, and that year was his healthiest to date. In fact Im not sure he has ever played a full season as a starter at any time n his career. His hammies and groin are made of margarine.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Wah wah wah wah wah Raiders always get called for penalties wah wah wah wah wah wah wah.
Play with more discipline, and you’ll get fewer questionable calls. Play stupid football, and you’ve put a target on your own back.
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Yep.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Your wah wah wah comments are ridiculous. No one is talking about jumping offsides or personal foul penalties. PI and illegal contact are completely subjective. Let them play for crying out loud!
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Commit enough penalties and refs will start to notice everything. And the Raiders sure do commit enough penalties.
The Moore call wasn’t PI by any stretch of the imagination. That’s why it didn’t get called. Didn’t turn the WR. Didn’t wrap his arm around him. Didn’t even grab him. Hand on the back of his shoulder, jumped over top at the same time as the ball got there. Clean play.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am
remember reports about Denarius Moore beating CJ and Routt on a routine basis…and the only one constantly challeging Moore,
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I remember Moore being part of the getting beat crowd too.
Something special, Hwn????
He made ONE play against BMore AFTER he GOT BEAT for a TD. Lucky strip.
Was getting beat deep yesterday and imo was making plays that CLEARLY would be penalties if he were in SnB.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:53 am
On the real though, I think Allen needs to go holla at Roger and let him know that Al is no longer around.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Commit enough penalties and refs will start to notice everything. And the Raiders sure do commit enough penalties.
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I agree with that.
Had NE commited a few more penalties, maybe Moore’s play gets noticed.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:53 am
“Actually, Eli was drafted #1 and he aid he didn’t want to play for the Chargers, hence the trade when The Giants drafted Phillip Rivers at #4″
Doesn’t matter they made the wrong choice and if it was us they would beat that into the ground that Al Davis made a mistake.
AJ Smith screwed up!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Moore also forced a fumble last night. Got called back because the Pats had 12 men on the field.
Moore played well for the Patriots all season. Especially for an undrafted rookie.
Disingenuous, sour grapes to criticize Moore’s play when he contributed more for the Pats than any Raiders DB did for the Raiders.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:54 am
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am
remember reports about Denarius Moore beating CJ and Routt on a routine basis…and the only one constantly challeging Moore,
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I remember Moore being part of the getting beat crowd too.
Something special, Hwn????
He made ONE play against BMore AFTER he GOT BEAT for a TD. Lucky strip.
Was getting beat deep yesterday and imo was making plays that CLEARLY would be penalties if he were in SnB.
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J Heezy
I don’t see how the rest don’t get it.
Moore would lead the league in P.I.’s w/ the Raiders.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Moore is, even at this point in his career, a league-average starter at CB.
Better than what the Raiders have right now, except for arguably Stan Routt. And last I checked, you need to field at least two CBs…
February 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Moore would lead the league in P.I.’s w/ the Raiders.
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LOL.
Hyperbole, hooray!
February 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
“exactly my point, he wasnt the starter for the full year, and that year was his healthiest to date. In fact Im not sure he has ever played a full season as a starter at any time n his career. His hammies and groin are made of margarine.”
This is true kind of like all of us wondering if Gothel will ever be a good MLB always hurt we will never know how good he could have been.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@RAIDERS OAKLAND RAIDERS
Jason Tarver has been named defensive coordinator for The Oakland Raiders.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Truth hurts
February 6th, 2012 at 11:58 am
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Tarver-Named-Raiders-Defensive-Coordinator/5cb81089-62ce-46b8-a2bb-1c6cb643210e
February 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Truth =/= wishful thinking.
Sorry, no matter how you’d like to justify it, the Raiders got rid of a player who could have been a solid contributor at their weakest position. And instead that kid helped another team get to the Superbowl.
As you said… truth hurts.
February 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Jason Tarver has been named defensive coordinator for The Oakland Raiders. Tarver served as co-defensive coordinator and inside linebackers coach at Stanford in 2011 after spending 10 seasons in various coaching capacities with the San Francisco 49ers.
Tarver was appointed co-defensive coordinator and inside linebackers coach at Stanford in February 2011 and coordinated one of the top defensive units in the Pac-12 Conference. The Cardinal ranked either first or second in the conference in six defensive categories, including rushing defense (1st; 84.4), third-down conversion defense (1st; 31.1), scoring defense (2nd; 21.9), total defense (2nd; 337.6), sacks-per-game (2nd; 3.0) and opponent first downs (2nd; 17.5). Stanford finished third nationally in rushing defense, sixth in third down conversion defense (31.0; 51-164) and 11th in sacks per game (3.0).
Tarver spent the previous decade on the staff of the 49ers, coaching San Francisco’s outside linebackers for six seasons (2005-10) prior to his appointment at Stanford. He began coaching at the NFL level as a quality control coach for the 49ers (2001-03) before being promoted to assistant running backs/offensive assistant coach for the 2004 campaign.
Under Tarver’s guidance in 2009, the 49ers outside linebackers recorded 15 takeaways, 17.5 sacks and nine forced fumbles, setting the edge for a run defense that ranked sixth-best in the NFL. Linebacker Manny Lawson enjoyed a breakout season as he led the team with a career-high 6.5 sacks, while Ahmad Brooks recorded a career best 6.0 sacks. Parys Haralson also posted 5.0 sacks. Both Lawson and Brooks recorded four forced fumbles, which tied the 49ers single season record. The 49ers finished the season ranked tied for third in the NFL in sacks (44), tied for first in forced fumbles (21) and fourth in points allowed per game (17.6).
In 2007, Tarver played an instrumental role in the development of Haralson, who was elevated to a starting role after Lawson was lost for the season with injury during the second week of the season. A year later, Haralson led the team with a career-high 8.0 sacks, a total which tied for second among NFC linebackers.
Prior to joining the 49ers in 2001, Tarver spent three seasons (1998-2000) as a graduate assistant coach at UCLA, where he worked primarily with the defensive backs while assisting with the special teams. During his tenure with the Bruins, three defensive backs – cornerbacks Ricky Manning and Jason Bell along with safety Marques Anderson – joined the NFL ranks.
A Northern California native, Tarver played football at West Valley Junior College in Saratoga from 1994-95. He spent the 1996 and 1997 seasons as an assistant coach on the West Valley staff, tutoring linebackers, defensive backs and special teams.
Tarver earned his bachelor’s degree in chemistry in 1997 from Santa Clara University, where he was a member of Phi Beta Kappa. He also earned his master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology from UCLA and received the departmental prize for distinguished teaching in 1998 and 2000.
Tarver and his wife, Katie, have two children.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
>>>>
AJ Smith screwed up!
>>>>
SD got Tomlinson and Brees that year instead of Eli… which is FAR from a screw up. The screw up was releasing Brees.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Yes the Raiders make stupid ass penalties, but if you guys don’t see that the NFL’s zebras are after the Raiders. Your totally blind.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
1083.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:53 am
“Actually, Eli was drafted #1 and he aid he didn’t want to play for the Chargers, hence the trade when The Giants drafted Phillip Rivers at #4″
Doesn’t matter they made the wrong choice and if it was us they would beat that into the ground that Al Davis made a mistake.
AJ Smith screwed up!
Yup, that I agree!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
saw Herm Edwards on BSPN this morning.
while people were gushing over Eli and Manningham, Herm was freaking piZZed at Sterling’s coverage on the play. he explained that the CB had only one responsibility on that play, to force the receiver inside the numbers and not let him go up the sideline.
Herm said Sterling should’ve lined up outside of Manningham instead of toward the slot.
Herm explained it as basic cover2 responsibilty in that formation.
so, Sterling got beat by Evans for the game-winning touchdown against the Ravens (if ruled a TD on the field it would’ve stood)
then yesterday
and y’all are crowing about how good he is.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
The refs are “after” the Raiders because the Raiders are known for playing without discipline. And when you regularly live up to your reputation, you better believe the refs are going to look that much closer at every play.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Truth =/= wishful thinking.
Sorry, no matter how you’d like to justify it, the Raiders got rid of a player who could have been a solid contributor at their weakest position.
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I agree, but people are making him to be the next Dion or something.
The kid is average, and yes he could of contributed for us.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Tarver earned his bachelor’s degree in chemistry in 1997 from Santa Clara University, where he was a member of Phi Beta Kappa. He also earned his master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology from UCLA.
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Maybe he can design a drug or cook up a cocktail to keep McFadden healthy, as well as coordinating the D.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
So Sterling Moore is not good enough to hold a ROSTER SPOT on the Raiders?
But he is good enough to start for the Patriots in the Super Bowl?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
new post, it’s official!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
1101.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
So Sterling Moore is not good enough to hold a ROSTER SPOT on the Raiders?
But he is good enough to start for the Patriots in the Super Bowl?
Thank you! Pretty much the point I was trying to make…he’s what? 22? He made his mistakes and I did hear that from Edwards…but he could have had a chance to be great here!
And no, I didn’t say he was the next Dion! LOL
February 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
1056.YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Wah wah wah wah wah Raiders always get called for penalties wah wah wah wah wah wah wah.
Play with more discipline, and you’ll get fewer questionable calls. Play stupid football, and you’ve put a target on your own back.
^^^^^^^
Wah wah wah….the Raiders have been called for crazy amounts of penalties for years, despite who the coach is.
The refs call penalties against who they want to call penalties on and when.
I saw Pats O-Linemen holding for most the game yesterday against the Giants pass rush and there were maybe two holding calls against them?
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