Raiders make Tarver official as DC
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, February 6th, 2012 at 12:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders confirmed the hiring of former 49ers and Stanford assistant coach Jason Tarver to be their defensive coordinator Monday as coach Dennis Allen continues to put his staff together.
Tarver, 37, served as the co-defensive coordinator for the Cardinal in 2011 and before that worked from 2001 through 2010 through five different head coaches with the 49ers.
Under the direction of Tarver and co-coordinator Derek Mason, Stanford’s defense ranked either first or second in the Pac-12 in eight categories, finishing first in rushing (93.3), first in red zone defense (74.0), first in third-down conversion percentage (30.9 percent), first in total defense (331.4) and first in fewest first downs per game (17.8).
Stanford was second in sacks per game (3.2), scoring defense (20.3) and tackles-for-loss per game (7.3).
The Cardinal was fifth nationally in rushing defense, an area where the Raiders have struggled, giving up 5.1 yards per carry in 2011 under Chuck Bresnahan.
Tarver, who attended Foothill High in Pleasanton, was first reported as a candidate Saturday by ESPN, which was confirmed by a source with knowledge of the situation. The Web site Footballscoop.com reported Saturday Tarver had accepted the position.
The Raiders now have all three coordinators in place, with Greg Knapp replacing Al Saunders and Steve Hoffman taking over for John Fassel, but still have a number of assistant coaching positions to fill.
On offense, the Raiders still have not hired assistant coaches for quarterbacks, wide receivers and tight ends. Oakland went without a quarterbacks coach in 2011 with head coach Hue Jackson and offensive coordinator Al Saunders handling the position, but are likely to hire one this season to assist Knapp.
Allen’s background is entirely in defensive football.
On defense, the Raiders have not hired assistants for the defensive line, linebackers and the secondary (Oakland had two coaches for defensive backs last season, Rod Woodson for cornerbacks and Kevin Ross for safeties).
The Raiders could also be in the market for a special teams assistant for new special teams coordinator Steve Hoffman.
Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown, a member of the Raiders organization for 41 years, including the last 15 listed on the coaching staff as being in charge of “squad development’’ is currently not on the coaching roster.
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February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who is this cat
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
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February 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Raider2DaHeart Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who is this cat
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Pssst… there is an article above your post. You can, you know, READ it.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
WOO HOOO 5TH
February 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Where you guys at??
February 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Boy is this Team going to suck in 2012 4-12 here we come.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
The refs are “after” the Raiders because the Raiders are known for playing without discipline. And when you regularly live up to your reputation, you better believe the refs are going to look that much closer at every play.
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wrong!
There after the Raiders, because of Al.
He is no longer around, so they need to start calling the games fair now.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Duh
February 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Tarver earned his bachelor’s degree in chemistry in 1997 from Santa Clara University, where he was a member of Phi Beta Kappa. He also earned his master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology from UCLA.
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At least we’ll have the only NFL coach with a Masters in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology.
Maybe he can design a drug or cook up a cocktail to keep McFadden healthy, as well as coordinate the D.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Truth =/= wishful thinking.
Sorry, no matter how you’d like to justify it, the Raiders got rid of a player who could have been a solid contributor at their weakest position.
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I agree, but people are making him to be the next Dion or something.
The kid is average, and yes he could of contributed for us.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
You’re right, DMac. The fact that the Raiders constantly commit stupid penalties has nothing to do with how many penalties the refs call on them.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Raiders could have used an average CB this season.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Glad to see Jerry woke up !!! dont know how he could type through those blood-shot eyes !!!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Now that our staff is taking shape and the season is over I am anxiously waiting to see who gets cut or traded.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
so are we going 3-4 now?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
1101.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
So Sterling Moore is not good enough to hold a ROSTER SPOT on the Raiders?
But he is good enough to start for the Patriots in the Super Bowl?
Thank you! Pretty much the point I was trying to make…he’s what? 22? He made his mistakes and I did hear that from Edwards…but he could have had a chance to be great here!
And no, I didn’t say he was the next Dion! LOL
February 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
So, Rod Woodson wont be back as CB coach?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Cork must still be nurseing a hang-over !!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
You’re right, DMac. The fact that the Raiders constantly commit stupid penalties has nothing to do with how many penalties the refs call on them.
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I’m not talking about the stupid penalties.
You throw a flag, when you commit a penalty.
If Routt makes the same play as Moore last night. He gets flagged fa’sho.
Do you not agree?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Raiders could have used an average CB this season.
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I agree
February 6th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
815.Albert Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Whoever commented about Eric the Midget being Sullivan, here is a video with him in a 49er jersey.
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It won’t let me post the one with you/MR/Sully/Alex, in Raider gear. The clip is boring anyway, when I use to listen he would call in and just complain about everything about the show but yet he said he was a big fan of the show. Sound familiar?
Hes a Raider/49er fan to, ummmm, interesting, now I really am starting to wonder.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DVD started 4 games opposite Routt. Sheppard started 7. CJ37 started 3. Chekwa started 1
February 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Wow, interesting hire of DC. Don’t know enough to see if he’s an amazing up and commer or just a reach. Co Defensive Coordinator doesn’t really show who the brains were of that operation.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DVD started 4 games opposite Routt. Sheppard started 7. CJ37 started 3. Chekwa started 1
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Makes you miss Nnamdi
February 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
why beat up moore? The kid can play, and made a great play in the championship game. he made some very good plays in the sb too. Sure he made some mistakes but after all he is a rookie, and rookies will do that. He made far more positive plays than mistakes while he has been on the field this season, and for the life of me i still dont know why or how he was left off of our roster. He will only get better.
Thanks hu jack
February 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I’m not talking about the stupid penalties.
You throw a flag, when you commit a penalty.
If Routt makes the same play as Moore last night. He gets flagged fa’sho.
Do you not agree?
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Can’t say. I’ve seen questionable calls v.s. Routt, though. That’s the product of being on a team that routinely commits penalties. When lack of discipline is routine, refs look that much closer at every single play.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
An article about Tarver from 49ers.com, from june 2010:
“Jason Tarver didn’t study for biochemistry tests in college. That would have made them too easy.
Instead, Tarver went into tests and figured out the problems as they came. That made it more challenging – and more fun.
Tarver loves problem solving.
It is part of what makes the 49ers outside linebackers coach so good at what he does. He enjoys analyzing opponents, then figuring out how to stop them.
Now entering his tenth season with the 49ers, Tarver has solved countless problems, and for him, that’s the best part of the job.
“I like figuring out what the problems are and how to attack things and how to fix things,” he said. “That’s what drew me to coaching.”
But, if Tarver wasn’t coaching, he could probably be doing anything he wanted.
Bill Walsh knew it the first time he met Tarver.
When Tarver interviewed for a coaching position with the 49ers in 2001, Walsh asked the then 26-year-old why a man with a masters degrees in biochemistry and microbiology would want to coach football.
For Tarver, the answer was simple.
“I just knew this was what I wanted to do, and I told him that,” Tarver said. “There’s nothing else like coaching, and it is truly what I love doing.”
Tarver grew up in nearby Pleasanton, and loved football from a young age, but he didn’t start playing until he was 12. He was too small, and his parents didn’t want him to get hurt.
But, by the time Tarver was a senior in high school, his size didn’t matter anymore.
Tarver had become one of the better defensive backs in the state and his skills earned him scholarship offers to several small schools.
But when he tore his anterior cruciate ligament during his senior season, those offers disappeared. Tarver’s grades, however, did not. They were good enough to give him an academic scholarship to Santa Clara University.
He enrolled in the fall of 1993, but the Broncos had dropped their football team the year before. Tarver still wanted to play.
So, a year later he was on the field at West Valley College where he played two seasons. In his second season however, Tarver blew out his knee again, and his playing days were done.
He then spent his senior year as an assistant coach at West Valley and thought it was what he wanted to do with his life, but he wasn’t positive.
All of his knee surgeries intrigued him, and he thought he might want to use his chemistry degree to become an orthopedic surgeon.
In 1998, Tarver had a chance to pursue both career paths when he went to UCLA to earn his masters and coach as a graduate assistant for the Bruins.
Those days were hectic for Tarver, but they were some of his most fun.
He would focus on football work all day before practice, then after practice he would sprint across campus, put on a lab coat and teach a four-hour lab. After that, he would start his masters research.
“There was so much going on with teaching and coaching, but it was amazing,” Tarver said. “I learned a lot about football, chemistry and myself.”
Tarver sees lots of similarities between chemistry and football. He said football is more mental than physical, and Tarver uses the same problem-solving techniques on the field that he did in the lab.
“You have to adjust very fast to everything else that is going on in both,” he said. “In chemistry you have to deal with chemical reactions and things like that, and out here you have to adjust to what the other guys are doing.”
Tarver is only in his mid 30s and could see himself as a head coach in college or the NFL some day. He’s not out looking for those opportunities, but he knows if he keeps working hard one will present itself.
And when it does Tarver will be ready.
He has notebooks filled with everything from how he would recruit in college, to how he would organize a road trip, to the plays he would like to run.
“But, like the great John Wooden said, ‘Stay in the moment,’ Tarver noted.
And in the moment, Tarver is doing something he didn’t do much of in college – studying.
He spends more hours preparing for opposing offenses than he ever did for tests.
Just don’t tell his old teachers, he doesn’t want them to think football is tougher than chemistry.”
February 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Without getting permissions from other teams, I like the selection of coaches so far. Maybe could look to Alabama for a linebackers coach. Al spent way too many seasons wasting 1st and 2nd round draft picks trying to find a speedy CB, most all those chosen picks are no longer with us and was a complete waste. Need to get rid of overpaid lazy defensive players and bring in some new guys that will play with heart and pride.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
oops. Joe Porter started a game last year too
that makes 16
February 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Wow, interesting hire of DC. Don’t know enough to see if he’s an amazing up and commer or just a reach. Co Defensive Coordinator doesn’t really show who the brains were of that operation
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stanfords defense was really good, and they play against some outstanding offenses in the pac 12. The thing that jumps out to me is the fact that stanfords defense was very good and they dont get the same athletes as other major schools. the defense was a defense of over achievers, this tells me that the coaching was outstanding, both from the x & o stand point, to the ability to sell the plan to the players.
Good hire
February 6th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I’m not talking about the stupid penalties.
You throw a flag, when you commit a penalty.
If Routt makes the same play as Moore last night. He gets flagged fa’sho.
Do you not agree?
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Thought A. Curry got screwed on a few plays that I don’t think would have been called on other teams.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I’m not talking about the stupid penalties.
You throw a flag, when you commit a penalty.
If Routt makes the same play as Moore last night. He gets flagged fa’sho.
Do you not agree?
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Can’t say. I’ve seen questionable calls v.s. Routt, though. That’s the product of being on a team that routinely commits penalties. When lack of discipline is routine, refs look that much closer at every single play.
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I totally understand what your saying YA, but let me give you an example.
If your a known drug dealer in the hood. Police can’t just arrest you, and lock you up, because your known. They need evidence.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Reggie McKenzie has pledged to butt out.
asst coaching hires on offense will be decided by Allen & Knapp.
asst coaching hires on defense will be decided by Allen & Tarver.
if you’re looking for QB, WR & TE coaches on offense or DL, LB & DB coaches on defense you gotta look at what connections these guys might have to the above mentioned HC & Coordinators imo
February 6th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
REACH!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
So now can we draft Shane Skov????
Yeah I know he had his injury, but I would roll the dice w/ him in the later rounds,if he enters the draft.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Tarver sounds interesting. But you cant get too excited about him considering that the Raiders were turned down for interview requests by several other Teams before they turned to this guy.
Hard to get excited about the 5th option who was a last resort.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
God answered everyone of Raider Nations’ prayer, led Allen to hire a brand new defensive coordinator for the Raiders’ defense.
Here’s to a top tier defense in 2012!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
So Jason Tarver is kind of a younger Dennis Allen, both former High School Safeties who turned to coaching early on, both described as smart and hard-working.
Other than that there’s no connection between the two.
Just a guess but Maybe Greg Knapp was the one who told Allen about Tarver.
Tarver was the 49ers Offensive Quality Control coach when Knapp was their OC from 01 to 03.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Time to be extremely excited, a college hire with NFL experience, top D in Pac-12 against high flying offenses of the Pac-12.
of all the other considerations this one I think was the best option
February 6th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
anybody think Tarver will “gut” Stanford’s coaching staff?
DL Coach: Randy Hart
LB Coach: Lance Anderson
DB Coach: Derek Mason
February 6th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Raiders now need?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
1099.DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Truth =/= wishful thinking.
Sorry, no matter how you’d like to justify it, the Raiders got rid of a player who could have been a solid contributor at their weakest position.
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I agree, but people are making him to be the next Dion or something.
The kid is average, and yes he could of contributed for us.
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I know…some people acting like Moore is something the Raiders were stupid to let go?
Give me a break.
You people should more pissed off about the screw ups in past drafts and missing on 1st round draft picks.
Those screw ups have hurt this team more than anything.
F**k Sterling Moore! He is nothing!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
23.realtruraider Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
815.Albert Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Whoever commented about Eric the Midget being Sullivan, here is a video with him in a 49er jersey.
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It won’t let me post the one with you/MR/Sully/Alex, in Raider gear. The clip is boring anyway, when I use to listen he would call in and just complain about everything about the show but yet he said he was a big fan of the show. Sound familiar?
Hes a Raider/49er fan to, ummmm, interesting, now I really am starting to wonder.
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He’s an A’s fan as well. The midget that is. Don’t know about the troll.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Wes Welker is a FA. Does the SB drop cost him?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
How many guys where the Raiders denied interviews with? Yeah, don’t overrate.
Tarver= Last resort
February 6th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I think Dennis Allen’s plans may have changed a bit after failing to hire an experienced DC.
With such a young DC, Allen may have to spend more time with the Defense than he originally expected to.
And that’s just fine with me, I want a Dennis Allen Defense, not a Jason Tarver Defense, at least not yet.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
34.DMAC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I’m not talking about the stupid penalties.
You throw a flag, when you commit a penalty.
If Routt makes the same play as Moore last night. He gets flagged fa’sho.
Do you not agree?
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Can’t say. I’ve seen questionable calls v.s. Routt, though. That’s the product of being on a team that routinely commits penalties. When lack of discipline is routine, refs look that much closer at every single play.
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I totally understand what your saying YA, but let me give you an example.
If your a known drug dealer in the hood. Police can’t just arrest you, and lock you up, because your known. They need evidence.
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16 Personals in a season… no excuses for one paid his money let alone anyone for that matter
February 6th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Not excited about this hire.
I would rather have Tarver ahead of Manusky though.
It’s all wait and see with this team. They need a good LB coach…a good DLine coach and a good secondary coach that know what the hell they are doing….PERIOD!
They should probably hire two LB coaches….1 for the OLB’s and 1 coach for the ILB’s.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Tarver was the Stanford co-Defensive coordinator along with Derek Mason. But Mason was the game day manager NOT Tarver.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Disingenuous, sour grapes to criticize Moore’s play when he contributed more for the Pats than any Raiders DB did for the Raiders.
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That’s your spin on it.
I’ve simply been pointing out that a lot of people disagree with you that that one play wasn’t PI.
I haven’t seen one thing that tells me Moore would have been the #2 corner on the Raiders.
I think it’s sour grapes on your part directed at the Raiders that they let a player like Moore go to another team.
Fact of the matter is we had a need at S and Moore didn’t play that position. We were not going to cut a draft pick who looked promising for an UDFA. Happens all around the league.
Moore had what, 2 good games? Specifically 4 good plays, and he’s our starting corner?
Those 2 pass breakups yesteday are PIs for us ALL DAY LONG. I’ll concede that the team draws attention to itself, and attention WOULD BE drawn to Moore’s contact.
Other than that, what has this guy done to deserve to be a starter for the Raiders?
Knock the ball outta Lee Evans hands after gettin toasted?
Getting beat by Manningham?
Where are the examples of press man coverage that he would have to play here?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I want a Dennis Allen Defense, not a Jason Tarver Defense, at least not yet
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Marley,
you’re going to get a combination imo
February 6th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
And it’s not accurate to call Tarver a College Coach.
He spent 10 years as and NFL assistant before going to college for 1 year.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
take welker in a heart beat… tought catch, should of made it, didnt…still a good player.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
47.RaidO Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
How many guys where the Raiders denied interviews with? Yeah, don’t overrate.
Tarver= Last resort
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Yep…last resort. Definitely. Gotta hope he is better than Chuck B.
It should be kind of hard not be better than Chuck B, but we shall see….
February 6th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
*an
February 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
IF Sterling Moore was still on the roster, we would still have a need for a CB this offseason.
Moore = DVD = Chekwa
Same guy.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Marley Bob Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I think Dennis Allen’s plans may have changed a bit after failing to hire an experienced DC.
With such a young DC, Allen may have to spend more time with the Defense than he originally expected to.
And that’s just fine with me, I want a Dennis Allen Defense, not a Jason Tarver Defense, at least not yet.
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A Allen defense that was ranked 20th were the head coach Fox is a D guy. Some are over hyping this guy Allen to much
February 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Not excited about this hire.
I would rather have Tarver ahead of Manusky though.
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DK007,
both are Mike Nolan protege’s. Manusky just has more experience as DC
February 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Video of Tarver:
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/2/5/2772542/a-look-at-jason-tarver-grudens-young-doppelganger
Gotta Tell ya… I Like him
February 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Peace out ya’ll!
I’m ghost.
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@J Hill
Was Moore as a rookie undrafted Free Agent good enough to make the roster for the Raiders?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Well, we didn’t get David Shaw as I wanted, but we got his Co-DC.
Hooray?.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
52.J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Disingenuous, sour grapes to criticize Moore’s play when he contributed more for the Pats than any Raiders DB did for the Raiders.
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That’s your spin on it.
I’ve simply been pointing out that a lot of people disagree with you that that one play wasn’t PI.
I haven’t seen one thing that tells me Moore would have been the #2 corner on the Raiders.
I think it’s sour grapes on your part directed at the Raiders that they let a player like Moore go to another team.
Fact of the matter is we had a need at S and Moore didn’t play that position. We were not going to cut a draft pick who looked promising for an UDFA. Happens all around the league.
Moore had what, 2 good games? Specifically 4 good plays, and he’s our starting corner?
Those 2 pass breakups yesteday are PIs for us ALL DAY LONG. I’ll concede that the team draws attention to itself, and attention WOULD BE drawn to Moore’s contact.
Other than that, what has this guy done to deserve to be a starter for the Raiders?
Knock the ball outta Lee Evans hands after gettin toasted?
Getting beat by Manningham?
Where are the examples of press man coverage that he would have to play here?
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Exactly!
People reaching when it comes to saying Moore is anything special and the Raiders screwed up by letting him go.
Big deal, then whole defense sucked last under Chuck B. Moore is nothing!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Moore is alot more physically imposing than DVD or Chekwa..
still like too see more from both our guys as they ballted injuries all year..
February 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
So is this a 3-4 defense now, or are we still going with the 4-3?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown is listed on the coaching staff as being in charge of “squad development’’ is currently not on the coaching roster.
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Willie, we have a very important job for you. We’re going to need you to run down to Ike’s and pick up some lunch for the actual coaches . Can you handle that?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
60.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Not excited about this hire.
I would rather have Tarver ahead of Manusky though.
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DK007,
both are Mike Nolan protege’s. Manusky just has more experience as DC
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At least Tarver has upside. Manusky not so much.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Wassup DMac!!!!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Some of you guys on here talk like Allen was running the top D in the NFL
lol
February 6th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
I like it. Fresh blood. New thinking from a young man with a “Mensa”-like IQ. Outstanding.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Tarver has upside. Manusky not so much
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DK007,
Tarver is all mind. Manusky is all muscle
hard to say which is more important in a DC
February 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
i see your on baord with the new staff “Raido” ??
February 6th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
926.Marley Bob Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Bad drafting finally caught up with Bill Belichick last night.
I mean, they did make the Super Bowl and could have won the game, so they’re obviously not doing all that bad.
But Belichick’s often praised draft maneuverings where he stockpiles tons of picks has not paid off as expected.
Since the Pats started trading down for more picks back in 09 they have had 17 picks in the first 3 rounds but by my count they only have 5 or 6 starters out of those picks and just one truly outstanding player (Gronkowski).
Belichick’s a great Coach, I really like him and nobody beats him at picking up players nobody wants and have them contribute but if he could draft better he’d have a juggernaut out there.
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Yep!
Without Brady, the Pats would be average.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Dutch,
Yes, he was IMO.
I thought he had a shot a S back in camp. I actually predicted that either him or Chekwa would get moved to S and all of them would make the roster over McFadden and the other 2nd year player whose name I forget right now.
I like DVD. I think with another 15 lbs, this guy will be out corner for the next 10 years.
I also think Chekwa has a lot of potential.
I’d like to see us bring in a solid vet to start opposite Routt though. And Moore AIN’T him!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Sounds like only the fans are going to care about the whole 4-3 / 3-4 question. It appears the smart people, who actually know football and understand what they are trying to do and are (thankfully) in charge of doing it, don’t care about stuff that simple. Outstanding. I love that we may finally be able to outsmart other teams/coaches. Haven’t seen much of that since Chucky got traded to the west FLA coast….
February 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RaidO Says:
Marley Bob Says:
I think Dennis Allen’s plans may have changed a bit after failing to hire an experienced DC.
With such a young DC, Allen may have to spend more time with the Defense than he originally expected to.
And that’s just fine with me, I want a Dennis Allen Defense, not a Jason Tarver Defense, at least not yet.
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A Allen defense that was ranked 20th were the head coach Fox is a D guy. Some are over hyping this guy Allen to much.
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Not at all, I said before Allen has not proved anything, I liked the Denver D but they were not exactly a dominating unit and whatever success they had, you have to give some of the credit to John Fox, we just don’t know how much.
My point is, we hired Dennis Allen because he supposedly can coach a Defense, so I want our D to be run mostly by Allen with Tarver’s help.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Raid,
I wasn’t impressed with the Donkey’s defense last year. Tim Tebow single handedly won the AFC West for them and beat the Steelers in the playoffs
so what? Bowlen, Elway & Fox didn’t give the guy much to work with. That doesn’t mean he’s not a quality coach or that he’ll fail as HC in Oakland!
Give the guy a chance. I like everything I’ve seen & heard and heard about him up to this point. Have you seen the guy serve as HC for an NFL team and flop? me neither, so as a Raider fan I’m pumped and ready to see my Raiders finally rise & shine under a new regime
February 6th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
1060.J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Sterling Moore would be crap for us.
A bunch of flags and would get beat deep. Who would be the safety helping his cover 2 over the top? Giordano?
Manningham beat Moore for the KEY play on that last drive. Had him beat deep on the series before but Manningham drifted OOB.
Moore is nothing special people.
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Truth
Didn’t he get beat a couple times on that last drive?
If he did that with the Raiders everybody in here praising him, would be the first ones calling him a bum.
Seriously, he played for one of the worst secondarys, he had a part in that. So lets chill on crowning him just yet.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
YESSSSSSS!
Way to go Giants by beating the Pats…AGAIN!
I lost my full game bet, but I won side bets, UNDER in first half and for the whole game and won prop bet with Tynes making over 1.5 FG’s.
Screw Belicheat, Shady Brady and the Pats!
Pats 0-2 in post Spygate Super Bowls!
Eli IS Elite!
The refs tried to help the Pats a bit with the non PI calls and by by that BS holding call on the Giant when they converted the 1st down and were going to score on that drive.
Where are the Sterling Moore lovers in here again? He is what we thought he was. If he was still on Raiders, he would have been called for PI’s all over the place in this game! haha
Manningham makes the amazing catch and Welker doesn’t…plain and simple. Bas throw by Brady though to Welker. He threw it too high for the 5′8 Welker and over his other shoulder. BlackBurn made a helluva play to pick Brady on that deep ball to Gronk!
Pats do not take advantage of Giants fumbles.
I knew Gronk would be ineffective, but I would have thought Giants would have covered Hernandez more tightly than they did!
Way to pull out the win Giants!
The Giants, Coughlin and Eli OWN the BeliCheat, Brady and Pats! Love it!
Pats 0-2 in post SpyGate Super Bowls! haha
February 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I would like to hire Troy Calhoun as QB Coach
February 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Thought A. Curry got screwed on a few plays that I don’t think would have been called on other teams
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Tyvon Branch too.
Patrick Chung’s hit on Nicks on that sideline play wasn’t the defenseless receiver call that Branch got eff’d over on?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
And yet a few posters in here, you know the ones – have IQ’s in the range of a women’s bball game score, will trash about trying to find a box to put the new way of doing things in to.
Doesn’t sound like there will be any more boxes. No more coaches who are hired because they are willing to do whatever Al told them to do.
New blood, new thinking. People with huge IQs to plan to battle with the other teams who have legions of really smart people working….
Outstanding!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Joe Pendry would also make a solid QB Coach
February 6th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Didn’t he get beat a couple times on that last drive?
If he did that with the Raiders everybody in here praising him, would be the first ones calling him a bum.
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Exactly.
Just like the DET game.
Routt had a played a DAMN good game. Had a bad series towards the end and got ROASTED by some folks in here.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Kinda funny that two of the three players that Cockran mentioned turning heads at camp were cut…(D. Moore, Hagan and S. Moore)
February 6th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Tarver has upside. Manusky not so much
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DK007,
Tarver is all mind. Manusky is all muscle
hard to say which is more important in a DC
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Mind wins period.
Manusky is more than muscle, dude knows how OC’s think and knows how to get his personal in posisition to make a play.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
77.JLofty Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Sounds like only the fans are going to care about the whole 4-3 / 3-4 question. It appears the smart people, who actually know football and understand what they are trying to do and are (thankfully) in charge of doing it, don’t care about stuff that simple. Outstanding. I love that we may finally be able to outsmart other teams/coaches. Haven’t seen much of that since Chucky got traded to the west FLA coast….
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I don’t care if they go 4-3 or 3-4….in this day and age teams need to be scheme diverse and must play smart, physical, mentally tough and disciplined defensive TEAM football. Allen and Tarver need to get these back into to the top 20 overall with this defense. Improving over 10 spots from last year would be step in the right direction.
They also need to do some adjusting when it comes to personnel and the positions they play. Wimbely is NOT a true SAM LB in 4-3 alignments.
Everyone must be on the same page and not run around like chickens with their heads cut off like what the D with Chuck B leading them last year.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Dan Henning or Danny Abramowicz would make solid QB coaches too
February 6th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Right on. The new regime is set in place.
Owner, principle business decision maker- Mark Davis
Business advisory – Amy Trask, John Herrera (that’s where the smell’s coming from…)
General Manager, ultimate decision maker on all player acquisitions and the status of the head coach – Reggie McKenzie
Head coach, ultimate decision maker for all game preparation and execution, fate of coordinators – Dennis Allen
Offensive coordinator, primary play caller and organizer on offense – Greg Knapp
Defensive coordinator, primary scheme caller and organizer on defense – Jason Tarver.
Here was the organization one year ago:
Owner, principle business decision maker- Al Davis
Business advisory – Trask, Herrera
General manager – Al Davis
Head coach, ultimate decision maker for mostly offensive game time decisions, little defensive decisions – Hue Jackson
offensive coordinator – Jackson, Saunders? Same responsibilities as head coach.
defensive coordinator, organizes defenses designed by the general manager, allowed to make few adjustments – Chuck Breshnehan.
Huge improvement, especially where general management and defensive coaching are concerned. Bring on 2012. I’m excited.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Giants allowed 14 points/ game in the post season.
Who said you don’t need a defense to win a SB?
Elite QBs are great, but you still need to play defense to stop the other team. GB is a great team with an elite QB, but their defense didn’t play well this season, so they are not in the SB.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
The sock puppet army is excited.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I hope Tarver can make this defense better.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
JLofty Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
And yet a few posters in here, you know the ones – have IQ’s in the range of a women’s bball game score, will trash about trying to find a box to put the new way of doing things in to.
Doesn’t sound like there will be any more boxes. No more coaches who are hired because they are willing to do whatever Al told them to do.
New blood, new thinking. People with huge IQs to plan to battle with the other teams who have legions of really smart people working….
Outstanding!
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What are you talking about? Allen just hired a “yes man” as a D cord. Tarver will run and do whatever Allen wants seeing as Tarver has no real D identity.
Also retread “kanpp” is Allens guy and a horrid hire. Good ol boy style. It’s a lot like how AD did things.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Screw the Pats and ALL Boston Teams!!
Yeahhhhhh!
February 6th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Gil Haskell for QB coach?
February 6th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Overall, offensive change is neutral to slight negative. 8-8 Hue Jackson to often flat Greg Knapp.
Defensive change is profound and encouraging! Al Davis/Breshnehan to McKenzie/Allen/Tarver. Unproven as they are, it’s an automatic improvement over a GM and defacto DC that has proven himself to not understand how to build a modern day NFL defense.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
While Knapp is not as exciting as Hue Jackson, he’ll bring less mistakes as well. Hue was a risk taker, a gambler. And when a gambler ends at .500, it’s like breaking even and not winning a dime. He may as well have stayed home.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
I would not be a bit surprised to see both former coordinators Saunders & Bresnahan retained as QB Coach & LB Coach …
February 6th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
The Old Rule is Still True:
Preasure the QB and Stop the Run = Win Football games!!
Tarver will make McClain play up to his potential
He may not have been the 1st choice (or even the 5th for that matter) but i like Tarver … maybe its the Gruden look and attitude, but i think he has that IT factor
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/2/5/2772542/a-look-at-jason-tarver-grudens-young-doppelganger
Rolando McClain will have a DHB type of improvement next season.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
And that’s just fine with me, I want a Dennis Allen Defense, not a Jason Tarver Defense, at least not yet.
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A Allen defense that was ranked 20th were the head coach Fox is a D guy. Some are over hyping this guy Allen to much
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Yes 20th, but here are the facts:
- He took over a defense that was ranked 32nd the previous season. Moving up 12 spots in one year is leadership.
- Donkey’s defense was dealt a very short hand having to play opposite 3 and out for 80% of the game Tebow. I think that the Donkey offense was in the bottom 5 in the NFL in time of possession.
- Despite the above, when that defense was clicking on all cylinders mid season, they were only giving up about 10-17 points per game.
- They had 4 games, all against top 6 passing teams (GB, NE, Det, SD) where they gave up a ton of yards in blowouts that hurt their average. Most teams that they are ranked against didn’t have that many high potent offenses to match up against.
But the most important fact for me:
- Raiders defense was ranked 29th.
If Allen and his new protege can affect a 10-12 step climb in the defensive rankings, that puts the Raiders in the middle of the pack. Combined with an offense that should be top 10 ranked (if Knapp doesn’t make any radical changes) and a very solid special teams unit, and we’re looking at a playoff caliber team.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Defensive minded organization probably better off with an OC that’s considered “boring”. Having an OC with aspirations of putting lots of points on the board can only create conflict with a defensive minded HC and GM. Was Knapp the best choice? If you’re thinking chemistry, probably yes. But if you just want to see the Raiders score lots of points (something you should perhaps let go of, considering we now have a defensive minded GM), then of course you’ll hate the choice of Knapp. But when you’re dealing with assistant coaches, chemistry is more important than the actual record of the coordinators, imo.
February 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
90.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Dan Henning or Danny Abramowicz would make solid QB coaches too
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Please say you’re joking. Abramowicz makes Tom Walsh look like Jack Pardee.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Knapp likes to run the ball. That will go over well with a defensive minded organization. Organizational cohesiveness. Before, it was chaos. And it could have had something to do with the Raiders not making the playoffs in a decade. Our most recent league MVP sure thinks so.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
We can be a great team, if we:
1- Run the ball well.
2- Use PA
3- play good defense
4- play with discipline
5- get Reece more involved in the passing game
February 6th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Abramowicz makes Tom Walsh look like Jack Pardee.
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LOL @ 504. I’m serious bro
February 6th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Tarver will make McClain play up to his potential
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I was thinking about this awhile ago. I think everyone can agree that it looked like McClain took a step backwards in his sophomore season. He seemed to be in the wrong place at the right time way too often.
This could very likely be a symptom of the system and what the MLB was supposed to do as opposed to his lack of ability. Given that he played better under a non-Bres system previously, I have some optimism that he can do likewise again now that Bres and his “play the MLB in deep cover” defense is gone.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
i really enjoyed yesterdays game. loved watching belicheat and brady get beat by a better team.
Thing about football is no matter how big the names, the better team usually wins. The Giants have all-around a better team than NE, with a clutch QB.
if you are going to use a team as a blueprint to build a champion, use the NY Giants: awesome Dline paired with a very solid QB.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
We can learn some lessons! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/superbowl-lessons-for-raidernation.html
February 6th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Zymurge Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
And that’s just fine with me, I want a Dennis Allen Defense, not a Jason Tarver Defense, at least not yet.
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A Allen defense that was ranked 20th were the head coach Fox is a D guy. Some are over hyping this guy Allen to much
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Yes 20th, but here are the facts:
- He took over a defense that was ranked 32nd the previous season. Moving up 12 spots in one year is leadership.
- Donkey’s defense was dealt a very short hand having to play opposite 3 and out for 80% of the game Tebow. I think that the Donkey offense was in the bottom 5 in the NFL in time of possession.
- Despite the above, when that defense was clicking on all cylinders mid season, they were only giving up about 10-17 points per game.
- They had 4 games, all against top 6 passing teams (GB, NE, Det, SD) where they gave up a ton of yards in blowouts that hurt their average. Most teams that they are ranked against didn’t have that many high potent offenses to match up against.
But the most important fact for me:
- Raiders defense was ranked 29th.
If Allen and his new protege can affect a 10-12 step climb in the defensive rankings, that puts the Raiders in the middle of the pack. Combined with an offense that should be top 10 ranked (if Knapp doesn’t make any radical changes) and a very solid special teams unit, and we’re looking at a playoff caliber team.
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Yes, with no injuries to the starting QB and the league leading rusher RB the Raiders would have been a playoff team last season. Even with that crap D
February 6th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
This all being said, I don’t fault the skeptics. I was a skeptic from January of 2001 to just weeks ago. And before that I was a skeptic from the Marcus Allen situation all the way up till Gruden’s hiring. What goes around comes around. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, it’s my turn to be the blindly loyal shill, and to feel the heat from more realistic fans who can easily point out the lack of NFL experience and or NFL success in our new management, in their respective positions.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Not that we don’t need big brains coaching football, but jeez, doesn’t our country have more need for its Stanford-trained scientists to teach the next generation of molecular biologists than to teach the 3-4 defnsive scheme? Doesn’t the fact that this guy stand to make so much more money in football indicate a … I don’t know…values problem?
February 6th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Zymurge>>
This could very likely be a symptom of the system and what the MLB was supposed to do as opposed to his lack of ability.
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Put McClain in a 3-4 and let him run sideline to sideline like he did at Bama.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Season tickets aren’t practical for my budget. That means I’m a broke m.f. But I’m going to a couple of games this year, at least. All I asked of the Raiders was for them to hire a GM. It’s done. Now I have to do my part and show my financial support.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
109.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
i really enjoyed yesterdays game. loved watching belicheat and brady get beat by a better team.
Thing about football is no matter how big the names, the better team usually wins. The Giants have all-around a better team than NE, with a clutch QB.
if you are going to use a team as a blueprint to build a champion, use the NY Giants: awesome Dline paired with a very solid QB.
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Yep. Yesterdays game was a solid, intense game. What made it great for me, was seeing the Giants WIN and not the cheating Patriots belicheat and shady brady.
I didn’t want to hear all the non sense and BS talk of how the Pats are a great dynasty and belicheat is a one of the greatest coaches ever and brady is one of the greateast coaches ever….blah…blah…talking head tv and radio crap!
Pats 0-2 in post SpyGate Super Bowls!
Luv it!!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Have a feeling that overall fan behavior at games will improve, too. Not because I’ll be going to games, lol. But because the culture of losing that’s permeated the franchise in the past decade has only driven away the responsible adult consumer base, and left the venue a haven for irresponsible people who only go to Raider games to indulge in their own idea of a good time, which involves drinking more than they can handle, and acting violently.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
115.Sullivan44 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Season tickets aren’t practical for my budget. That means I’m a broke m.f. But I’m going to a couple of games this year, at least. All I asked of the Raiders was for them to hire a GM. It’s done. Now I have to do my part and show my financial support.
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Might look into getting season tickets in the 141 visitors sideline area with a couple of other peeps.
If I can’t get the price and seats I want, then there is no value for season tickets for me.
Rather just pick and choose the games I go to when it comes to single game tickets.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RaiderInTexas Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Zymurge>>
This could very likely be a symptom of the system and what the MLB was supposed to do as opposed to his lack of ability.
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Put McClain in a 3-4 and let him run sideline to sideline like he did at Bama.
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I’m sorry did you just use “run” and “mcclain” in the same sentence?
February 6th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
No more Willie Brown? Things really are changing!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
BREAKING NEWS!
Raiders just announced the hiring of the corner-backs coach. A USC grad in Cardiology.
How about hiring coaches with track records in the NFL!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Looking at Dennis Allen DC search, seems to me he wanted a LB .
Dennis Allen coached DB’s and DL before, no experience with LB’s.
Jason Tarver’s specialty seems to be coaching LB’s as he did at Stanford, besides being Co-DC and earlier with the 49ers OLB’s.
2 other candidates are LB coaches by trade, that would be Richard Smith and Greg Manusky.
As for the other 2.
Bill Johnson, a DL coach, was a long-time coach at Allen’s school (Texas A&M) and worked with him in ATL so familiarity likely played a major role in Allen’s interest.
While Joe Whitt, a DB coach was probably a guy McKenzie recommended for an interview so Allen gave him a shot.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
* A LB coach.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
You and KK Munster can put your stimulus funds together and buy some 25.00 seats up in Mt Davis. Make sure you hold up a sign so we can spot you on TV.
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Sullivan44 Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Season tickets aren’t practical for my budget
February 6th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Knapp has a track record! How about some new blood because retreads suck!
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SC Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
How about hiring coaches with track records in the NFL!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
77.JLofty Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Sounds like only the fans are going to care about the whole 4-3 / 3-4 question. It appears the smart people, who actually know football and understand what they are trying to do and are (thankfully) in charge of doing it, don’t care about stuff that simple. Outstanding. I love that we may finally be able to outsmart other teams/coaches. Haven’t seen much of that since Chucky got traded to the west FLA coast….
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I don’t care if they go 4-3 or 3-4….in this day and age teams need to be scheme diverse and must play smart, physical, mentally tough and disciplined defensive TEAM football. Allen and Tarver need to get these back into to the top 20 overall with this defense. Improving over 10 spots from last year would be step in the right direction.
They also need to do some adjusting when it comes to personnel and the positions they play. Wimbely is NOT a true SAM LB in 4-3 alignments.
McLain is more effective as a 3-4 ILB, but can play the MIKE, but he needs a solid vet to push him and teach him to be a better pro.
I think Huff can be a solid free safety in this league, he just needs to be in the right system. Bringing in Chuck B last year really screwed up the players and their confidence from the year before.
Everyone must be on the same page and not run around like chickens with their heads cut off like what the D was playing like with Chuck B leading them last year.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Raiders do have a great scapegoat if they suck next season. Blame it on the rookie coaches.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
122.Marley Bob Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Looking at Dennis Allen DC search, seems to me he wanted a LB .
Dennis Allen coached DB’s and DL before, no experience with LB’s.
Jason Tarver’s specialty seems to be coaching LB’s as he did at Stanford, besides being Co-DC and earlier with the 49ers OLB’s.
2 other candidates are LB coaches by trade, that would be Richard Smith and Greg Manusky.
As for the other 2.
Bill Johnson, a DL coach, was a long-time coach at Allen’s school (Texas A&M) and worked with him in ATL so familiarity likely played a major role in Allen’s interest.
While Joe Whitt, a DB coach was probably a guy McKenzie recommended for an interview so Allen gave him a shot.
Dat Ngyuen!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Allen needs to hire TWO GOOD LB coaches.
1 coach for the ILB’s and 1 coach for the OLB’s!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RIGHT! MistaBrown….
With a lot of change, comes a transition period. Its going to be tough next year.
1.HC without headcoaching exprience
February 6th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
[...] to Jerry McDonald of InsideBayArea.com, the Oakland Raiders have hired Jason Tarver as their new defensive [...]
February 6th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Allen needs to hire TWO GOOD LB coaches.
1 coach for the ILB’s and 1 coach for the OLB’s!
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probably a few guys with ties to the 49ers
Bill Romanowski & Rickey Jackson
dave wilcox, anyone?
February 6th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Mike Singletary should be the LB coach.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
The only hire Im not thrilled about is Knapp but if he tailors the offense around Palmer, DMAC, and our young WR’s things will be fine. We have weapons, dont squeeze them into a box, unleash them! Knapp will do this or I will put a target on his back like I did SeaPerch, #21, and Seymour.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Sterling Moore was much better than Boyd, raiders win the Buffalo game with Sterling on the roster
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
oh yeah, Romanowski, we need some boar hunters.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Singletary is a buffoon. Ask Minn what they though of his act in 2011.
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aiderinparadise Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Mike Singletary should be the LB coach.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Raiders need to draft/and or sign two good linebackers.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Sterling Moore was much better than Boyd, raiders win the Buffalo game with Sterling on the roster
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Al thought he was too slow. that derranged POS, although manningham did run right by him for htat big catch.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
MB, we all came to an agreement the other day. As soon as you get laid, you’re going to cross party lines and register Democrat.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
@ 100..you realy think so RR ??
February 6th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Maybe its good that we hired a College coach. The way this deffense played last year we’re gonna have to go back to the college game just to teach these guys basics…
February 6th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Singletary is a buffoon. Ask Minn what they though of his act in 2011.
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aiderinparadise Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Mike Singletary should be the LB coach.
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Minn had a LB in the pro-bowl and all of their LB’s are solid.
and what did greg biekert do?
February 6th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
This whole thing about Willie Brown supposed to be having a secure job, if keeping him in the organization was so important to Al, why didn’t Al cut him in on a small percentage of ownership, the way Jerry Buss did with Magic? What a perfect way for Mark to address this situation. Willie won’t be on the sideline anymore, trying to teach extremely outdated cover techniques to a bunch of yawning players that know he’s not even really a coach. Instead he’ll be upstairs, sitting at the table with the team’s general partnership.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Zymurge @108 : Many/most NFL defenses have the MLB/Mike playing that deep middle zone. Its a function of having the safeties roll to outside.
I watched Ray Lewis play it in the AFC championship game against the Cheatriots. See it all the time. It’s not just Bres, and it’s not just young Rolando who stuggle with that. Thats a tall task against players like Gronkowski, Graham, Vincent Jackson etal…
February 6th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
you realy think so RR ??
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Mike,
Yes! both have a ton of experience.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Sterling Moore isn’t too slow…he wouldn’t have been in Oakland if he was too slow. Sterling Moore’s REACTIONS are slow.
Sterling Moore backed-in to being the AFC Championship hero ONLY because he recovered in time to knock the ball out of Lee Evans’ hands. Evans did what Evans does…he failed to secure the ball, after a great throw.
Lee Evans is the reason so many people think Sterling Moore’s so good. SMoore may become great someday, but he’s not even close yet.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
It does make a lot of sence RR
February 6th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
If MB did actually get laid not only would he start voting Democrat he would do his laundry and get a job to impress the heffer.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
14 arrested in New England area as fans rioted after game, yet somehow MIA’s middle finger is the story of the day.
For every 10 second clip and sound byte about the fan behavior in New England last night, they’re doing 5 minutes on MIA’s middle finger.
February 6th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
“Who is we you and your alias’s ?
haha
Just because you are the resident virgin who lusts after his cousin dont try and slap some stupid sh!t on me you cross posting kunt.”
Sounds like a very angry celibate person in need of a release. Go downtown and find an Asian massage parlor and get a happy ending then come back in here with your new perspective on life!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
With our 1st pick in the 3rd round (supplamental, I’m guessing) I would love to see the best LB on the board.
We are going to have to make a BIG impact in free angency with currently only 2 LATE picks
February 6th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
I don’t think a nerd like Tarver is gonna say or do anything to convince McClain he needs to earn his paycheck. Al Davis gave him $23 million guaranteed
Reggie McKenzie & Dennis Allen are the no-nonsense guys that need to get him in line. I’ll be interested to find out who they choose as his LB Coach
Marshall, Haluchak, Bresnahan & Biekert didn’t do much for his “development” – but then again thats like blaming Kiffin, Knapp, Defilipo, Cable, Hackett & Tollner for how JaWalrus turned out!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
new post !!
February 6th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
**If we go 3-4 that is
February 6th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I’m not too worried about the D-Coord hire because its gonna be Allen’s system.
The thing that worries my is Knapp. Hopefully he is smart enough to let CP run the offense and plan to his Strengths not his weaknesses or try to fit round pegs in square holes
February 6th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
JLofty is correct!
Defensive schemes have many D-Linemen and LB’s covering players downfield…players you wouldn’t expect to see doing it. That’s because there are more weapons/ways to use them on O nowadays…and it works more often than not.
Tom Brady (under)threw a 40-yard INT last night to a hybrid D-lineman in coverage on Gronkowski (the new best TE ever!).
Multiple schemes, and having people in the right place, are key to modern Defenses. I’m glad we brought in another fresh face…with a ton of experience for his age, and young enough to watch grow as a coach.
ReggieMcK and D.A. are putting together a strong staff…on paper. I’m betting they’re as good as advertised.
February 6th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Are we going 3-4 as our base defense now that the new dc is in? This question could determine the fate of rolando maccalin.
We know he needs a major attitude adjustment outside of football. Everything from his refusal to acknowledge how different college football is compared to college, to his self imposed ban on the media, it has been a clear pattern of entitled snob-ism, and inability to accept responsibility. I wouldn’t say this if he was playing well, but the fact remains after bad games he is glaringly silent. This bad attitude culminated in dogging it on play in game, and an alleged dirty harry reenactment. This marks the second time romac has been involved with gun play, or at least reports thereof.
In part because we dont seem to have yet had a fully engaged player it is difficult to grade his talent level for his position. Yet the fact that he hasnt been able to dial in and maximize his talent is also a part of his over all grade. this isnt lost on allen and big mack, as allen in his presser noted that he wanted to romac go full blast on every snap.
With this in mind you are left weighing romac inconsistent play in the 4-3, against his draft stock at his college position if ilb at alabama. Is his play victimized by his peculiar fascination with Scarface role play? Or is he just a fish out of water being asked to cover so much space, and far better off in a 3-4 alignment?
My personal take is after watching for two years I think if his heart was in it he would make a solid 4-3 mlb. I think he could be a star in the 3-4, where he doesnt have to cover as much ground laterally and with less gap responsibility. This way we wont have to see him flying into the wrong holes quiet as often. Either way he needs to pull his head out, Im sure he is on the bubble.
February 6th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I know a lot of fans are worried about rookie owner, rookie gm, rookie hc and some rookie assistants but I think this isn’t just a 1 or 2 year plan. The plan is to build a consistent winner again. Some fans say hey we were 8 – 8 and only needed some tweaks on D and a healthy McFadden but the problems ran deeper than that. We really didn’t have one dominate game all season and we beat only one quality team. We were fortunate to be in a weak division and barely beat horrible teams. Though the Raiders should always honor the past the organization needs a new foundation to be build on. I like the youth in the coaching staff and hopefully there just the right mix of experience as well. The reality is none of us know right now if any of these choices are good or bad. The majority of even so called great coaches have failed over time. What we do know is that for the first time in decades the decisions are being made by the GM and the coach, like most winning NFL teams do it.
February 6th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Yeah, not really worried about the D either. Once again last season if JC and DMAC don’t get hurt this is a playoff team even with that crappy D.
The big “?” is Knapp
February 6th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
The more I learn about Tarver, the more I like the guy.
People are drawing comparisons to a young Jon Gruden and that can’t be bad.
February 6th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Im anticipating at least 4 new starters on D this year and probably Bush will not be back….lots of movement in the draft and FA I think……
February 6th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I like Tarver, but I’ve seen Breaking Bad. This will not end well.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Raiders need to draft/and or sign two good linebackers.
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Yep!
February 6th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
who is?
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oldschoolraider Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
The more I learn about Tarver, the more I like the guy.
People are drawing comparisons to a young Jon Gruden and that can’t be bad.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 6th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
I don’t think a nerd like Tarver is gonna say or do anything to convince McClain he needs to earn his paycheck. Al Davis gave him $23 million guaranteed
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Something tells me that if he wants to play he’ll get on board.
This new regime is as much about culture change as it is anything eesle.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Knapp is crap in my opinion. Has he ever coordinated an outstanding offense
February 6th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I think this young coaching staff is going bring the Raiders back to being respected around the NFL. We are going to make the playoffs this year. That’s right I said it!
February 6th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Reggie McKenzie is probably going to get rid of several players on the current roster. There are a lot of good free agents on the market.
February 6th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Someone up in the posts commented about the Raiders and a 4-12 record next season. That could be very possible mainly because there will probably be massive personnel movement to fit the style of the new HC and staff.
The Raiders are stuck with Palmer, which now will have to adjust to a new offensive scheme, instead of one catered to him by Hue. There will be no Housh. So, if Palmer was mediocre in a system catered to him, here and in Cincy, he’ll most likely continue to spiral down the toilet on a system he is not used to, if he even manages to finish up the season healthy.
However, the Raiders do have a solid core of young players who can only get better, except for RoMac, who should get dump asap, and have the middle linebacker position be a high priority alongside a couple of stud defensive tackles, with no Seymour or Kelly.
So, the 2012 season will probably bring a new excitement with the young rookie GM, coaches and the revamp roster, would probably have a better disciplined team (anything would be better), however don’t expect many wins.And, if RegMac is worth all of his salt, we could probably begin to see winning seasons and playoffs in 2 or 3 years.
What I see is a team that needs to be built up from the core of young players, and add by subtraction by getting rid of the garbage, RegMac and Allen shouldn’t have any trouble find it, but in case they need help finding the garbage, anybody here in this blog could pretty easily give them a list, free of charge.
February 6th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
people still going on about carson palmer. bottom line he came off his couch and played football.should have never came in the chiefs game. he did show some great throws that only a few qb’s in the league can.personally i think the west coast offense will help . he won’t have to sit back in the pocket and wait on all receivers to run their deep routes. shorter routes’ and our receivers will be awesome.
palmer is asmart qb. an offseason with the new play-book he’ll catch on.
February 7th, 2012 at 6:15 am
The fans w who thought third place afc west was progress and were happy are losers
February 7th, 2012 at 9:58 am
These ‘hires’ starting with Allen to the retread Knapp to the youngster Tarver has Josh McDaniels trainwreck written all over it.
Three huge problems with Raiders exist: Lack of discipline all over, too many penalties, and a terrible defense.
To remedy said problems: We canned the OC and HC most responsbile for the offensive resurgence and brought in a bunch of retread and/or a youngsters promoted 2 levels above where they should be. But hey, McKenzie got ‘his guys’. These hires are making me ill.
Was Mark Trestman not available? What about Terry Robiskie? Was the Bed and Breakfast guy tied up with other commitments?
February 7th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown, a member of the Raiders organization for 41 years, including the last 15 listed on the coaching staff as being in charge of “squad development’’ is currently not on the coaching roster.
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Poor Willie lost his scholarship! I urge McKenzie to bestow Emeritus status on him, give him a small office, mail slot, etc. Gotta keep one of the old ghosts around.
February 10th, 2012 at 12:28 am
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Hope they stay
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