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Raiders 2012 coaching staff taking shape

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, February 7th, 2012 at 9:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Recently hired head coach Dennis Allen methodically has assembled his first coaching staff, with a mixture of holdovers, first-timers and NFL veterans.
Allen still has several hires to make before his first major undertaking is complete. For now, let’s take a quick look at how this year’s coaching staff compares to the one that served under Hue Jackson in 2011:

Title: 2011 — 2012 (former team)
Head coach: Hue Jackson — Dennis Allen (Denver Broncos)
Offensive coordinator: Al Saunders — Greg Knapp (Houston Texans)
Defensive coordinator: Chuck Bresnahan — Jason Tarver (Stanford)
Special teams coordinator: John Fassel — Steve Hoffman (Kansas City Chiefs)
Wide receivers: Sanjay Lal — Ted Gilmore (Southern California)
Running backs: Kelly Skipper — Kelly Skipper
Tight ends: Adam Henry — Vacant
Offensive line: Bob Wylie — Frank Pollack (Houston Texans)
Asst. offensive line: Steve Wisniewski — Steve Wisniewski
Defensive line: Mike Waufle — Vacant
Linebackers: Greg Biekert — Vacant
Asst. linebackers: Ricky Hunley — Vacant
Safeties: Kevin Ross — Vacant
Cornerbacks: Rod Woodson — Vacant
Strength and conditioning: Brad Roll — Al Miller (Atlanta Falcons)
Asst. strength & cond.: Chris DiSanto — John Grieco (University of Louisiana-Monroe)
Offensive quality control: None — Justin Griffith (None)
Defensive quality control: Eric Sanders — Eric Sanders

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314 Responses to “Raiders 2012 coaching staff taking shape”

  1. Sullivan44 Says:

    Told ya.

  2. Sullivan44 Says:

    Chaos. total chaos. Why? Every year, why?

  3. Albert Says:

    I agree Sully. We go forward two feet, back three.

  4. RaiderDuck Says:

    This should be the last coaching chaos for awhile. Reggie’s getting his guys, then it’ll be time to let them coach.

  5. olinesux Says:

    and some of you guys wanted to trade monta….crazy.

  6. Albert Says:

    Will be a nice change to see a head coach actually coach and not be distracted.
    Wait.
    Hue just did that. And was pretty bad. Oh boy, here we go again.

  7. Seymour Bush Says:

    Alex=Albert=Sullivan=MR=sh**

  8. olinesux Says:

    ^^^^ true

  9. Davy Jones Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    Chaos. total chaos. Why? Every year, why?

    ===================

    How strange that you of all people should lack for an answer. Surely this is somehow Al Davis’ fault like everything else, from beyond the grave even? #sarcasm

    I blame Ron Wolf, of course.

  10. 425Raider Says:

    Anybody know what time it is in Chicago right now?

  11. Albert Says:

    Seymour Bush=Debo=666=Oakglenn=, etc, etc
    All that he admitted to.

  12. Albert Says:

    12:13 am in Chicago.

  13. The Extremely Grand Mr. Swankahoochi Says:

    Got to love love love what the Raidahs are doin.

    Now I gotta go and pinch a loaf then call in my minions with wheelbarrows and haul my loafs to my bunker, or archives if you will, cause all my loafs will be dedicated to science when I get the right dollar amount I’m askin.

    A 15 pound loaf has to be worth a couple of cool grand.

    NOW GO HOLLA DA FRIZZLE WHILE I SCHITZZLE SCHITZZLE

  14. Mum-O-killowe Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    Mum-O-killowe Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Who needs a WR coach when all you do is Run Left, Run Right, Failed screen pass, punt…
    ——————
    That’s Greg Knapp in a nutshell
    _______________________________________________

    Knapp + Solid Defense + well Above average Offensive talent + Pro Bowl QB = < average points scored. = sub 8-8 and gets his azz fired.

  15. Alex7 Says:

    You left out a few of Seymours names there, Albert.
    Someone ran a ip trace, and most of these new goofy names just babbling have been linked to Seymours IP.
    Anything to say on that, Seymour?

  16. Alex7 Says:

    For some reason, Mum, many want to just start cheering from the rooftops because we got Knapp back.
    I remember far too many times yelling at my tv over his predictable game calling, and was glad when he left.

  17. raiderfankirk Says:

    Talking to your self is enjoyable? Never mind must be. Happens all the time.

  18. The Extremely Grand Mr. Swankahoochi Says:

    Just to let you know I just pinced a one piece loaf weighing in at 22 pounds, 19 inches long, and a symetrical diameter of 11 inches at the max. Thats gotta be worth 5 grand easy.

    Who all left is there for coaches anyway Reggie still needs to hire?

  19. RaiderDebo Says:

    truthfactory says:
    Feb 7, 2012 8:56 PM
    Well he got too much credit when they were winning Super Bowls too. Everyone forgets that Brady was more of a game manager when he won his 3 Superbowls. Only over the past 5 years has he been putting up great numbers.

    His defense has held opponents to 16 ppg average in his playoff wins, and 22 ppg in playoff losses.

    Same thing with Eli: 15 ppg allowed in playoff wins, 22 ppg in playoff losses.

    Same thing with Peyton: 17 ppg allowed in playoff wins, 23 ppg in playoff losses

    The key to being a “Clutch” QB is getting on a team that plays great defense in the postseason more often than the other guys’ defense.

    QB’s get too much credit and blame for postseason success
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    This poster on PFT gets it. Pay attention Alex.

  20. Sullivan44 Says:

    LOL. Seymour/Oakglenn disappears, and here’s his sockpuppet, Debo.

  21. BS Detector Says:

    Always cracks me up when I come in here and see someone having a conversation with themselves under a few different aliases!

    Thanks for the laughs loser

  22. RaiderDebo Says:

    16.Alex7 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    For some reason, Mum, many want to just start cheering from the rooftops because we got Knapp back.
    I remember far too many times yelling at my tv over his predictable game calling, and was glad when he left.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I’d take Knapp any day over the Cable/Tollner combo! Bringing Tollner in here as the “passing-game coordinator” along with Buddy Whackit doomed the 2009 team to failure.

  23. OakGlenn Says:

    Yeah, Debo and BS, it’s a real hoot seeing some of these tards go at it.
    Not like the old days where it was a smackfest. Now everyone gets all huffy.
    I just choose to hang out elsewhere, instead of these unmodified boards.
    Diggity.

  24. OakGlenn Says:

    Oh I agree Debo. Great post. Knapp is the man.

  25. olinesux Says:

    knapp will take this eam to 4 wins

  26. Try Some Reality Says:

    Hey, wazzup Debo, and Seymour, and BS.
    Long time no see.

  27. 24 Says:

    We might have Knapp as OC and he may be conservative in his play calling but most plays are usually designed to have at least 1 guy going deep on every play. One thing I know about Carson Palmer is that he will take chances down the field so regardless of the play thats being called, we have a QB that can go through his reads and make those plays during the game and with our speed at the wideouts, I have faith that we won’t look as conservative because of Palmer.

  28. RaidO Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
    16.Alex7 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    For some reason, Mum, many want to just start cheering from the rooftops because we got Knapp back.
    I remember far too many times yelling at my tv over his predictable game calling, and was glad when he left.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I’d take Knapp any day over the Cable/Tollner combo! Bringing Tollner in here as the “passing-game coordinator” along with Buddy Whackit doomed the 2009 team to failure.
    _____________________________________________

    Lol, Cable took over the play calling duties because Knapp sucked so much.

  29. RaiderDebo Says:

    28.RaidO Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
    16.Alex7 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    For some reason, Mum, many want to just start cheering from the rooftops because we got Knapp back.
    I remember far too many times yelling at my tv over his predictable game calling, and was glad when he left.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I’d take Knapp any day over the Cable/Tollner combo! Bringing Tollner in here as the “passing-game coordinator” along with Buddy Whackit doomed the 2009 team to failure.
    _____________________________________________

    Lol, Cable took over the play calling duties because Knapp sucked so much.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    And how did that work out? There’s a hell of a lot more to being an OC than calling plays. His work with the QBs is something that was sorely missed. We needed him to continue JaMarcus’ development.

  30. mltcjl76 Says:

    The Purple Drank experience where Knapp and Kiffin were supposed to make JR into Vick left a “stink all the way back in bloody whales!” (The Replacements) We all fear a repeat of that debacle. The rest of the staff leaves me in a quandary as well. Can a microbiologist be a great defensive coordinator? Hoffman over Fassel considering the amazing fakes we used with success. Hubert and Fassel used Jano to his full potential despite his injury. Can we finally make our LB’s and secondary into a group that is worthy of new “no passing” poster in Marks office? I think if Allen can simply take away our Achilles heel of leading the league in penalties and hopefully fewer injuries with the upgraded strength and conditioning staff, we have a chance at 10-6.

  31. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis must be spinning in his Mausoleum tonite.

  32. tengtd Says:

    Did you just reformat the Thoughts From the Dark Side “Raiders Coaching Staff Live Blog” by Levi?

    http://tfdssports.com/2012-articles/february/raiders-coaching-staff-live-blog.html

    Have you no shame? When will you do some actual journalism/reporting?

  33. rob_raider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    Chaos. total chaos. Why? Every year, why?

    __________________

    there’s no chaos moron. u r just such an idiot.

  34. rob_raider Says:

    what’s the big deal? markus davicus (the haircut) hired a good gm and that gm hired a coach-on-the-rise and that coach is hiring the guys he likes. period. some of u guys are really dumb.

  35. RaiderRetribution Says:

    #34; you are correct Raider Robbie;

    the process has been anything but chaotic

  36. RaiderRetribution Says:

    only position coach on offense that has not been filled is the TE position

  37. Try Some Reality Says:

    I see that the sock puppet army hijacked my handle. Loser.

  38. raiderzmaverick Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    16.Alex7 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    For some reason, Mum, many want to just start cheering from the rooftops because we got Knapp back.
    I remember far too many times yelling at my tv over his predictable game calling, and was glad when he left.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I’d take Knapp any day over the Cable/Tollner combo! Bringing Tollner in here as the “passing-game coordinator” along with Buddy Whackit doomed the 2009 team to failure.
    ========================
    Wow, great! That’s like saying “I’d take Knapp over Tom Walsh”. Great….way to raise the bar man!

  39. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I think this WR coach is a good hire. He’s good with younger WRs, and that’s what we got now. A bunch of 1st, 2nd and 3rd year WRs that have upside but not consistant production.

  40. raiderzmaverick Says:

    24 Says:
    February 7th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    We might have Knapp as OC and he may be conservative in his play calling but most plays are usually designed to have at least 1 guy going deep on every play. One thing I know about Carson Palmer is that he will take chances down the field so regardless of the play thats being called, we have a QB that can go through his reads and make those plays during the game and with our speed at the wideouts, I have faith that we won’t look as conservative because of Palmer.
    ======================
    Are you saying that we might still open up our offense “in spite of Knapp” because Palmer will still look deep despite what play is called?

    I know recently that Knapp has tried to put in the 49ers Offense that he had from 2001-2003 in each place he has gone despite not having the same personnel. It failed pretty badly with Vick in Atlanta. If failed worse in Oakland and didn’t go so hot in Seattle.

    Now, the question on everybody’s mind. Will he just try to put in the offense and make these players adapt who aren’t the right ones to run that kind of offense…or will he adapt and work the offense to make the most of the players skill sets that we have…

    Some think he’ll be able to do it referring to his success in SFO 10 years ago. Some point to his last 3 stints as OC and how much he sucked at them.

  41. Raider J Says:

    The coaching staff is the key to success.

    Out of the last 11 SB winning teams, the HCs worked for
    Parcells -6 (Belichick, Coughlin, Payton)
    Schottenheimer -3 (Dungy, Cowher, McCarthy)
    Dungy -1.5 (Tomlin, Gruden’s Def)
    Holmgren 0.5 (Gruden’s off)

    Dungy really branches off of the Chuck Noll tree but he did work for Marty.

    Allen is basically from the Dan Reeves / Tom Landry tree.
    Good foundation

    Get that Def staff together and “Just Win Baby!”

  42. Violent Hands Says:

    Tarver / Bill Walsh

  43. davidon Says:

    Mark = Moe
    Reggie = Larry
    ? = Curly

  44. rayraider Says:

    I’ve been a Raider fan for a long time. Big Al fan , however I really like the hiring of a young coaching staff.If we’re going to start fresh let’s start with high energy young guys who’ll think out of the box. The game is changing all the time and we don’t need old school retreads ( Capers,Tice,Del Rio etc.). I also don’t think these new guys are going to bring in a whole new offense. I think they’ll work with our strenghths. The D – anything they want to do will be better than what we had. SD loss was humiliating.

  45. GG Says:

    lol, all this time, Dennis Rockstroh has been the actual person fielding questions in the live chats.

  46. YoungAmerican Says:

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

    Oakland hired former Jets assistant coach john Defilippo as the Raiders quarterbacks coach.

  47. Raiderbuck Says:

    There are so many bloated contracts it’s going to take two years to get rid of all of them. By that time these noobs will be up and running at full steam. But yeah – do over (again)

  48. RaiderSam Says:

    Davidon Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 3:36 am
    Mark = Moe
    Reggie = Larry
    ? = Curly

    =============
    crow = what you’ll be eating in 2012

  49. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Head coach: Hue Jackson — Dennis Allen (Denver Broncos)
    Offensive coordinator: Al Saunders — Greg Knapp (Houston Texans)
    Defensive coordinator: Chuck Bresnahan — Jason Tarver (Stanford)

    *********************

    The way I see it:

    HC = massive upgrade
    OC = wash, slight decrease in talent, slight upgrade in that HC/OC/GM will all be on the same page
    DC = massive, massive upgrade

  50. hwnrdr Says:

    46.YoungAmerican Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 3:58 am
    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

    Oakland hired former Jets assistant coach john Defilippo as the Raiders quarterbacks coach.

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Was this guy any good the first time around? So, we just swapped huh? Lal for Flip?

  51. Violent Hands Says:

    John DeFilippo facts
    Born on April 12, 1978 in Youngstown, Ohio

    2010 San Jose State University quarterbacks coach
    2009 New York Jets (NFL) assistant quarterbacks coach
    2007-08 Oakland Raiders (NFL) quarterbacks coach
    2005-06 New York Giants (NFL) offensive quality control coach
    2003-04 Columbia University quarterbacks coach
    2001-02 University of Notre Dame graduate assistant
    2000 Fordham University quarterbacks coach

    Post-season participation

    2009 AFC championship game (coach)
    2006 NFC divisional playoffs (coach)
    2005 NFC divisional playoffs (coach)
    2003 Gator Bowl (coach)
    1999 NCAA Division I-AA playoffs (player)

    They played for Coach DeFilippo

    Eli Manning, QB, New York Giants, 6 NFL seasons, Super Bowl XLII MVP
    Kellen Clemens, QB,New York Jets, 5 NFL seasons
    Erik Ainge, QB, New York Jets, 2 NFL seasons
    Mark Sanchez, QB, New York Jets, 1 NFL season
    Daunte Culpepper, QB, 11 NFL seasons, 3 Pro Bowl selections
    Josh McCown, QB, 8 NFL seasons
    Marques Tuiasosopo, QB, 8 NFL seasons
    JaMarcus Russell, QB, 3 NFL seasons
    Kevin Eakin, QB, 3 professional seasons
    Jeff Otis, QB, 1 professional season

  52. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Raiders will hire USC wide receiver coach Ted Gilmore to coach wide receivers

    ***

    nice!

  53. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Oakland hired former Jets assistant coach John Defilippo as the Raiders quarterbacks coach

    ***

    decent, but I’m not mad at ya!

  54. edward teach Says:

    Footballscoop.com is saying that this guy will be our new DBs coach;

    http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/burns_keith00.html

  55. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ET,

    Keith Burns = very qualified DB Coach!

    see ya Woody :)

  56. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LB Coach will be a monumental hire. hope they take their time finding Biekert’s replacement

  57. GoodOle00 Says:

    Raiders hire former Jets Assistant Coach John DeFilippo as new QB Coach

  58. hwnrdr Says:

    54.edward teach Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 6:04 am
    Footballscoop.com is saying that this guy will be our new DBs coach;

    http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/burns_keith00.html

    Interesting!

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Meet your new TE Coach:

    http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/ex-raiders-coach-could-become-head-coach-at-fla-high-school/

  60. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    BACK TO TV GIG 4 ROD I GUESS.

  61. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anybody remember Charlie Coe, who got replaced by James Lofton?

    another ex-Kiffin guy!

  62. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    KIFFIN WHO ?

  63. hwnrdr Says:

    I hope our LB coach, whoever that may be, can light a fire under their arses! Looks like the DB and WR coaches will be good!

  64. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Madonna is more masculine than Lane Kiffin …

  65. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Looks like the DB and WR coaches will be good!

    ***

    Yup. Reggie & Dennis did their homework

  66. Raiderbuck Says:

    Lance I think

  67. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    KIFFIN SINGS BETTER THOUGH…

  68. hwnrdr Says:

    Maybe this will be the year where the receivers will run good routes and GAIN separation from the DBs and the DBs will turn their friggen heads around looking for the ball (Routt?)…should be an interesting year!

  69. hwnrdr Says:

    67.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 6:20 am
    KIFFIN SINGS BETTER THOUGH…

    LOL…I don’t wanna know how you know that Dirt Lot… :)

  70. RaiderDuck Says:

    Jason La Canfora
    Former Raiders OC Al Saunders staying with Oakland as a senior assistant. Now signed through 2013 season #insideslant

    ========================================

    So Saunders is not only staying, but we re-upped him a year? w00t!

  71. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the John DeFilippo hire is much like the Frank Pollack hire. hand picked by Greg Knapp and receives little fanfare.

    no frills. no bells & whistles

    All 3 may be replaced this time next year.

    However, I think the WCO/ZBS could be just what this offense needs!

  72. hwnrdr Says:

    70.RaiderDuck Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 6:23 am
    Jason La Canfora
    Former Raiders OC Al Saunders staying with Oakland as a senior assistant. Now signed through 2013 season #insideslant

    ========================================

    So Saunders is not only staying, but we re-upped him a year? w00t!

    That could be a good thing…

  73. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Duck

    Al Saunders as “senior assistant”?

    who called it?

    I predicted that Hue Jackson wouldn’t get a HC or OC job in 2012.

    Also predicted that Al Saunders wouldn’t get a OC or QB job in 2012.

    I guess nobody wants a HIGH POWERED OFFENSE !?!?!?

    bwahahahahahahaha

  74. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Saunders is staying just to tell Knapp & DeFilippo how great it is to work in Oakland without JaMarcus Russell …

    whatever we’re paying Big Al for that, is worth it!

  75. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who would be surprised if the Raiders have the #1 Offense next year ???

    Davis, Cable & Russell was the dysfunctional trifecta

    add Kiffin & Ryan to that mix and you get one hot mess.

    Knapp & DeFilippo are probably going to get HC & OC interviews next offseason after we win the Super Bowl

  76. alex7 Says:

    Cool, someone posted as me last night.

    Something about imitation and flattery.

    I’m cool with the staff.

  77. hwnrdr Says:

    That wasn’t you irritating Seymour last night…it was almost, almost…melt down status…

  78. bcz24 Says:

    Al Saunders is staying to because of his experience, and the fact the Knapp is aware moving to a strict WCO/ZBS does not work well with his players.

  79. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 6:34 am

    I’m cool with the Terrelle Pryor as #2 QB.

    ***

    Me too, bro!

    welcome aboard :P

  80. RaidO Says:

    Good thing sauders is staying. Takes some of the worry away with the whole knapp. I hope saunders takes a strong role in running the offense. Season saved!

  81. alex7 Says:

    Ha, only because it would land us the #1 pick for barkley.

  82. hwnrdr Says:

    80.RaidO Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 6:37 am
    Good thing sauders is staying. Takes some of the worry away with the whole knapp. I hope saunders takes a strong role in running the offense. Season saved!

    They could have told him that you are the passing game coordinator…who knows!

  83. RaiderDuck Says:

    This is good. Knapp will run a ball control offense, BUT he now gets to raid Saunders’ awesome deep-passing playbook. Best of both worlds right there.

    I assume the year extension means Saunders is getting ready to call it a career at 65.

  84. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I hope saunders takes a strong role in running the offense

    ***

    Raid,

    he’ll fetch the coffee for Knapp, DeFilippo, Pollack, Wiz, Skipper, Gilmore, Griffith and whoever the new TE Coach is

  85. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Knapp will run a ball control offense, BUT he now gets to raid Saunders’ awesome deep-passing playbook. Best of both worlds right there.

    ***

    @Duck

    senior assistant = passing game coordinator?

  86. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 6:45 am
    Knapp will run a ball control offense, BUT he now gets to raid Saunders’ awesome deep-passing playbook. Best of both worlds right there.

    ***

    @Duck

    senior assistant = passing game coordinator?

    ==========================================

    Probably something like that. No argument here.

  87. RaidO Says:

    Saunders 700 page playbook> knapp playbook. Go Raiders.

  88. edward teach Says:

    Yeah, not sold on Pryor as the #2 quite yet. The kid hasn’t taken a live regular season snap since 2010, missed his senior year in college (a critical year for most young QBs coming into the NFL) and doesn’t even have a full season as a pro under his belt.

    Get some packages put together for him. Get him as much real work as you can, but don’t rush him into anything. One more year learning the trade without him having to take over the team if something happens to Palmer, and he’ll be a better pro because of it.

  89. J Hill Says:

    Whatever the reason Saunders is staying, it’s a good thing.

    Saunders AND Knapp contributing to the offense means we not only don’t skip a beat, but are better.

  90. J Hill Says:

    Not sold on Pryor either.

    We need to throw the same 4 million a year at Campbell and have him return as our backup.

  91. RaidO Says:

    @edward teach. If newtoon and tebow are starting qb’s then pryor can play to. He is ready.

  92. Carl Weathers Says:

    I really like this staff from Allen to Al Miller. Nice to see Saunders is sticking around, Knapp should benefit from him. I have no doubt that we will resign Bush or pick a top name in FA. Probably go after another TE as well. Seems to be Knapps MO. Run o’ plenty and utilize the TE more. Not so sure everyone calling for a top end WR is gonna get their wish, fine by me.
    Now to fill the D staff…

  93. Carl Weathers Says:

    Not sad to see bones Fassell leaving. Our kickers and the talent of Ford made him look better than he was. Our coverage sucked and we haven’t returned a punt to the house since JLH was returning with Schneider as STC.

  94. RaidingTexas - 1OAKLANDRAIDERS1 Champion Says:

    I see the chicken little b!tches are out in full force around here. This coaching staff hasn’t even held a practice yet and you’re already crying like little girls.

  95. hwnrdr Says:

    93.Carl Weathers Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:02 am
    Not sad to see bones Fassell leaving. Our kickers and the talent of Ford made him look better than he was. Our coverage sucked and we haven’t returned a punt to the house since JLH was returning with Schneider as STC.

    That is true!

  96. 303Raider Says:

    What’s wrong with our coaching staff?

    Man, some of you act like we’re the Patriots or something.

    After 9 years of leading ate NFL in losses, penalties, and weirdness, anything that Papa Reggie and “The D.A.” are doing is ok by me!

    I mean, Channing the “culture” and “environment” takes a lot of work and Al left us a mess.

    Passing judgement and panicking are things women do, not “Men in Black”!

    Raider Nation Baby! We finally have some things to be “optimistic” about!!

  97. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We need to throw the same 4 million a year at Campbell and have him return as our backup

    ***

    pay JCamp $4 million to hold a clipboard?

    pass. chop that number in half, Jhill

    otherwise I’m cool to ride with Pryor for 500k or whatever it is …

  98. Dakota Says:

    93.Carl Weathers Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:02 am
    Not sad to see bones Fassell leaving. Our kickers and the talent of Ford made him look better than he was. Our coverage sucked and we haven’t returned a punt to the house since JLH was returning with Schneider as STC.
    ++++++++++++++++

    Agreed.

  99. edward teach Says:

    RaidO,

    I’m not talking about Cam Newton or Tim Tebow. I’m talking about Terrelle Pryor, and creating an ideal situation for him to properly develop as a pro.

    I watched Cam Newton play in college every chance I got. I have the Big Ten Network, and have watched vitually every Terrelle Pryor game they’ve televised since we drafted him. Pryor MIGHT be a better runner (?) but he is nowhere near Newton as a passer (yet?).

    I’m not saying the kid can’t play; he just needs a little more experience. Plenty of history to prove that the younger guys develop better if they’re not rushed.

  100. 303Raider Says:

    Pryor choked in most of the big games he played in. He needs a couple more years of watching CP3 throw bombs.

    Newton is a STUD! I watched him a Auburn and have watched most of his games this past year.

    Newton > Pryor

    Hopefully Pryor develops overtime. Right now it’s ALL about CP3!!!

  101. RaidO Says:

    Keeping Saunders is a big deal. The main grey area in all this coach hiring was knapp. No excuses for vanllia play calling because he has acces to that 700 page Sauders playbook.

  102. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Saunders AND Knapp contributing to the offense means we not only don’t skip a beat, but are better

    ***

    should be an interesting blend. expect the same on defense with Allen & Tarver

    it appears we’re trying to mix & mesh philosophies.

    2012 Raiders = hybrid

  103. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m talking about Terrelle Pryor, and creating an ideal situation for him to properly develop as a pro. he just needs a little more experience. Plenty of history to prove that the younger guys develop better if they’re not rushed.

    Get some packages put together for him. Get him as much real work as you can, but don’t rush him into anything. One more year learning the trade without him having to take over the team if something happens to Palmer, and he’ll be a better pro because of it.

    ***

    ET = semi pro blogger

  104. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I wish we’d keep Saunders, but I don’t see it. For some reason doesn’t fit with what Allen is trying to do. He wanted to change the entire offensive coaching staff despite it being the pluspoint on the team. So, he has a vision and it’s not what we had going.

  105. raiderzmaverick Says:

    We just got John Defellipo as the QBs coach.

  106. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raiderzmaverick Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:18 am
    I wish we’d keep Saunders, but I don’t see it. For some reason doesn’t fit with what Allen is trying to do. He wanted to change the entire offensive coaching staff despite it being the pluspoint on the team. So, he has a vision and it’s not what we had going.

    ==========================================

    What do you mean, “you don’t see it?” It’s been reported by multiple sources. Saunders is staying on. Done deal.

  107. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hopefully Pryor develops overtime. Right now it’s ALL about CP3!!!

    ***

    303 = solid

    why do 99% of Raider fans have a boner for Cam Newton?

    disgusting. I hope that guy gets hit by a bus tomorrow

  108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wish we’d keep Saunders, but I don’t see it. For some reason doesn’t fit with what Allen is trying to do. He wanted to change the entire offensive coaching staff despite it being the pluspoint on the team. So, he has a vision and it’s not what we had going.

    We just got John Defellipo as the QBs coach.

    ***

    Mav,

    you’re just like your girlfriend. 10 days late

  109. MattHenry Says:

    Wait, the Raiders had nobody running Offensive Quality Control last season? Wow.

  110. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Another retread from a horrid era. He was the NY Jets Assistant QB Coach 2 years ago before going to “San Jose State” to be the QB Coach. Obviously not much of a up and coming person.

    In between working for the New York teams, DeFilippo was the Oakland Raiders’ quarterbacks coach in 2007 and 2008. Daunte Culpepper, Josh McCown and JaMarcus Russell were among the quarterbacks he coached there.

  111. RaiderDuck Says:

    MattHenry Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:23 am
    Wait, the Raiders had nobody running Offensive Quality Control last season? Wow.

    ==========================================

    Al didn’t see the need for one. I loved the guy, but he never really understood, football-wise, that the 1970s were over.

  112. bcz24 Says:

    109.MattHenry Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:23 am
    Wait, the Raiders had nobody running Offensive Quality Control last season? Wow.
    ********************
    Al Saunders performed the duties of the OQC from the booth, since Hue was calling the plays. All the QC coach does is chart the offense.

  113. raiderzmaverick Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:19 am

    Raiderzmaverick Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:18 am
    I wish we’d keep Saunders, but I don’t see it. For some reason doesn’t fit with what Allen is trying to do. He wanted to change the entire offensive coaching staff despite it being the pluspoint on the team. So, he has a vision and it’s not what we had going.

    ==========================================

    What do you mean, “you don’t see it?” It’s been reported by multiple sources. Saunders is staying on. Done deal.
    =============
    No crap! Wow, didn’t see it anywhere. What’s he gonna be?

  114. raiderzmaverick Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:21 am

    I wish we’d keep Saunders, but I don’t see it. For some reason doesn’t fit with what Allen is trying to do. He wanted to change the entire offensive coaching staff despite it being the pluspoint on the team. So, he has a vision and it’s not what we had going.

    We just got John Defellipo as the QBs coach.

    ***

    Mav,

    you’re just like your girlfriend. 10 days late
    =============================
    Which is a better scene than your boyfriend…who never would have to worry about it…

  115. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:15 am
    Saunders AND Knapp contributing to the offense means we not only don’t skip a beat, but are better

    ***

    should be an interesting blend. expect the same on defense with Allen & Tarver

    it appears we’re trying to mix & mesh philosophies.

    2012 Raiders = hybrid

    *****************************
    I know we are used to coaches and owners lying to the press and overstating things at press conferences but is this not what DA said he was going to do at his press conference – i.e. multiple looks, hybrid etc…

  116. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raiderzmaverick Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:19 am

    Raiderzmaverick Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:18 am
    I wish we’d keep Saunders, but I don’t see it. For some reason doesn’t fit with what Allen is trying to do. He wanted to change the entire offensive coaching staff despite it being the pluspoint on the team. So, he has a vision and it’s not what we had going.

    ==========================================

    What do you mean, “you don’t see it?” It’s been reported by multiple sources. Saunders is staying on. Done deal.
    =============
    No crap! Wow, didn’t see it anywhere. What’s he gonna be?

    ================================================

    “Senior Offensive Assistant,” which basically means he’ll perform the same function for Knapp that he did for Hue last year: install the passing plays that he thinks will work against the D we’re facing, and then let Knapp call them.

  117. Marley Bob Says:

    Ted Gilmore as WR’s coach, he comes in with no NFL experience but at least our WR’s are young so they will probably listen to him, not sure if established vets would but we don’t have any.

    Nice to have Al Saunders back, I’m sure his experience will be helpful in a number of ways, he used to be a damn fine WR’s coach too, so he might help break Gilmore in.

  118. raiderzmaverick Says:

    What exactly does that mean a “senior assitant” (what Saunders apparently will be now)?

  119. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Marley Bob Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    Ted Gilmore as WR’s coach, he comes in with no NFL experience but at least our WR’s are young so they will probably listen to him, not sure if established vets would but we don’t have any.

    Nice to have Al Saunders back, I’m sure his experience will be helpful in a number of ways, he used to be a damn fine WR’s coach too, so he might help break Gilmore in.
    ====================
    Yeah, think he’s a good WR coach hire. He is good with young guys (which is what we got at WR).

    Dont’ like DeFelippo at QB coach much, but we have a good experienced QB that probably don’t need much tutilege. Probably would’ve been good to get one with experience with all types of QBs if we wanted to get Pryor up to speed with things.

  120. bcz24 Says:

    That means he is an offensive assistant, and they gave him a shiny new title to make him feel warm and fuzzy and stick around for 2 more years.

  121. Marley Bob Says:

    This has got to be the youngest staff in the NFL, Allen, Tarver and DeFilippo aren’t 40 yet, Gilmore is 44 I think, even Knapp is just 48, more reasons to keep a long-time NFL vet like Al Saunders.

  122. hwnrdr Says:

    Maybe its a nice way of saying he’s a senior citizen, you getthe Senior role? I don’t know…lol

  123. raiderzmaverick Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    Raiderzmaverick Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:19 am

    Raiderzmaverick Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:18 am
    I wish we’d keep Saunders, but I don’t see it. For some reason doesn’t fit with what Allen is trying to do. He wanted to change the entire offensive coaching staff despite it being the pluspoint on the team. So, he has a vision and it’s not what we had going.

    ==========================================

    What do you mean, “you don’t see it?” It’s been reported by multiple sources. Saunders is staying on. Done deal.
    =============
    No crap! Wow, didn’t see it anywhere. What’s he gonna be?

    ================================================

    “Senior Offensive Assistant,” which basically means he’ll perform the same function for Knapp that he did for Hue last year: install the passing plays that he thinks will work against the D we’re facing, and then let Knapp call them.
    ========================
    That’s good. Maybe he’ll help Knapp snap out of his 8 year funk. He might’ve just needed some new input…

  124. Carl Weathers Says:

    118.raiderzmaverick Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:32 am
    What exactly does that mean a “senior assitant” (what Saunders apparently will be now)?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Senior = he’s old

    Assistant = He’ll assist Knapp

  125. Marley Bob Says:

    So now we have 3 coaches with ties to Lane Kiffin, Knapp was his OC, Filippo QB coach and Gilmore was his choice for WR’s coach before he backed down.

    I’m guessing Knapp’s input was the primary reason we brought those guys is.

  126. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Dont’ like DeFelippo at QB coach much, but we have a good experienced QB that probably don’t need much tutilege. Probably would’ve been good to get one with experience with all types of QBs if we wanted to get Pryor up to speed with things.

    ***************
    Agree, He did wonders in NY with Sanchez didn’t he! This one is a head scratcher. I hope he does not screw up Palmer.

  127. Carl Weathers Says:

    Lets review where we have “poached” some of our coaches from:

    ~Dennis Allen, scooped from the Broncos

    ~Al Miller, who was about to sign with the donks until he heard his old buddy Allen was about to get a HC gig

    ~Ted Gilmore from Davis’ nemesis, lance kiffin

    ~Steve Hoffman from the chefs- was responsible for them drafting Succop as Mr. irrelevant and has turned out to be one of the better kickers in the league

    Somewhere Al Davis is smiling!

  128. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Marley Bob Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:39 am
    So now we have 3 coaches with ties to Lane Kiffin, Knapp was his OC, Filippo QB coach and Gilmore was his choice for WR’s coach before he backed down.

    I’m guessing Knapp’s input was the primary reason we brought those guys is.

    *****************

    If you remember the Raiders Offensive staff was gutted after the disastrous 2006 season and Kiffin hired Atlanta’s offensive staff almost lock stock and barrel at the Senior bowl after Mora was fired as HC there. It was a package of Cable and others that came with Knapp. These guys have history and background together from Atlanta and I mean DA as well.

  129. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I thought you all may like this to start dreaming about next year. Unfortunately, CBs are limited this year. Plus, I am sure many of the WRs will re-sign there are a # of key guys on the list.

    Here is a partial list of prominent potential free agents by position:

    •QB — Drew Brees, Jason Campbell, Matt Flynn, Rex Grossman, Chad Henne, Brian Hoyer (RFA), Josh Johnson, Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, Alex Smith,Vince Young

    •RB — Cedric Benson, LeGarrette Blount (RFA), Ronnie Brown, Michael Bush, Matt Forte, Arian Foster (RFA), Ryan Grant, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Tim Hightower, Peyton Hillis, Steven Jackson (has voidable deal), Marshawn Lynch, FB Le’Ron McClain, Ray Rice, FB Michael Robinson, LaDainian Tomlinson, Cadillac Williams

    •WR — Dwayne Bowe, Deion Branch, Plaxico Burress, Marques Colston, Pierre Garcon, Ted Ginn, DeSean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Mario Manningham, Robert Meachem, Laurent Robinson, Eddie Royal, Jerome Simpson, Steve Smith (Eagles), Mike Wallace (RFA), Reggie Wayne, Wes Welker, Roy Williams

    •TE — Jake Ballard (RFA), Martellus Bennett, John Carlson, Fred Davis, Jermichael Finley, Bo Scaife, Jeremy Shockey, Jacob Tamme

    •OL — Jeff Backus, Demetrius Bell, Jacob Bell, Matt Birk, Mike Brisiel, Vernon Carey, Dan Connolly, Brian De La Puente (RFA), Jared Gaither, Ben Grubbs, Andre Gurode, Nick Hardwick, Dan Koppen, Doug Legursky, Deuce Lutui, Todd McClure, Kareem McKenzie, Chris Myers, Carl Nicks, Samson Satele, Jeff Saturday, Jake Scott, Max Starks, Scott Wells, Jeremy Zuttah

    •DE — John Abraham, Cliff Avril, Dave Ball, Raheem Brock, Red Bryant, Calais Campbell, Adam Carriker, Andre Carter, Jonathan Fanene, Israel Idonije, Jason Jones, Robert Mathis, Jeremy Mincey, Cory Redding, Dave Tollefson

    •DT — Brodrick Bunkley, Antonio Dixon (RFA), Aubrayo Franklin, Antonio Garay, Sione Pouha, Shaun Rogers, Paul Soliai

    •LB — Marcus Benard (RFA), Chase Blackburn, Ahmad Brooks, London Fletcher, David Hawthorne, Geno Hayes, E.J. Henderson, LeRoy Hill, D’Qwell Jackson, Bradie James, Jarret Johnson, Manny Lawson, DeAndre Levy (RFA), Curtis Lofton, Jameel McClain, Kirk Morrison, Matt Roth, Barrett Ruud, Ernie Sims, Anthony Spencer, Stephen Tulloch, Erik Walden, Mario Williams

    •CB — Brandon Carr, Cortland Finnegan, Brent Grimes, Richard Marshall, Rashean Mathis, Tracy Porter, Carlos Rogers, Aaron Ross, Terrell Thomas, Lardarius Webb (RFA)

    •S — Jordan Babineaux, Tyvon Branch, Brian Dawkins, Thomas DeCoud, Abram Elam, Dashon Goldson, Deon Grant, Michael Griffin, Chris Hope, James Ihedigbo, Sean Jones, LaRon Landry, Jim Leonhard, Brandon Meriweather, Reggie Nelson, Bob Sanders

    •K/P — Connor Barth, Britton Colquitt, Phil Dawson, Jay Feely, Nick Folk, John Kasay, Donnie Jones, Mat McBriar, Mike Nugent, Matt Prater, Neil Rackers, Josh Scobee, Steve Weatherford

  130. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Which is a better scene than your boyfriend…who never would have to worry about it…

    ***

    Mav,

    bad day?

    I was joking with you man. lighten up!

  131. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chargers left tackle Marcus McNeill got his big contract in October of 2010. It was considered risky because of his health, and he wound up only playing nine games in 2011.

    The 28-year-old two-time Pro Bowler is expected to be waived in early March according to Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune. That would free up $10 million in cap space.

    ***

    Raiders new RT?

  132. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vick, Burress, Suh, T.O. among most disliked athletes

    -PFT

    ***

    BSJ,

    McFadden & Condo didn’t make the list ???

  133. RaiderDuck Says:

    FootballScoop.com is now reporting we’re bringing Keith Burns in, presumably as Secondary Coach.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Burns_(American_football_coach)

  134. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Duck

    you were “scooped” by edward teach – 2 hours ago

    Steve Corkran will update us on the new QB Coach, DB Coach & senior assistant shortly :)

  135. Raider O Says:

    Saunders is staying!!
    This is going to be better than I expected. He can work with Knapp on his passing game.

    Sign Mario Williams!

  136. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    @Duck

    you were “scooped” by edward teach – 2 hours ago

    Steve Corkran will update us on the new QB Coach, DB Coach & senior assistant shortly

    ============================================

    So I was scooped. Nice job, Teach.

    As for Corkran’s updates: I’d expect Jerry Mac if anything’s posted before noon.

  137. r8eray Says:

    Vincent Jackson FA…not signing back with the Chargers!

  138. bcz24 Says:

    Raiders new RT?
    *************
    I would sign McNeil (if he can play RT) to a 5 million split deal.

  139. bcz24 Says:

    Actually VJax said he just wants a long term deal, doesnt want to leave SD. They wont franchise him again, they would have to pay him like 12 Mill. I was on record last year as being a proponent of vjax so I am still on that.

  140. Raider O Says:

    FA wish list:
    1- sign DE Mario Williams
    2- Move Wiz to C & sign G: Nicks/ Grubbs
    3- Sign CB T Porter
    4- Resign S Branch
    5- Sign a big RB: Tolbert/ Hillis
    6- resign Reece & Dez
    7- sign a vet WR
    8- sign a 2nd tier NT
    9- sign OT McNeil if he is cheap due to his history with Injuries
    10- sign a backup QB to give TP more time.

  141. Raider O Says:

    That’s about 40-50 million in annual salaries.

  142. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RRS votes NO WAY to Vincent Jackson

    print it

    We need a legit FB & RT and this offense is going to be a juggernaut

    Guys like Lawton, Reece & Tonga at FB?

    Guys like Green, Barnes & Heyer at RT?

    Ain’t doing it for me!

  143. Thec Says:

    Defensive quality control: Eric Sanders — Eric Sanders

    +++++++++

    Defense and Quality should not be applied to last years team. He should be fired like the rest…

  144. Thec Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    RRS votes NO WAY to Vincent Jackson

    print it

    +++++++++

    Agreed…you guys keep wishing on a star that we get some high priced big name FA…Not going to happen.

  145. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Thec Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 8:31 am
    Defensive quality control: Eric Sanders — Eric Sanders

    +++++++++

    Defense and Quality should not be applied to last years team. He should be fired like the rest…

    —-

    He was an offensive assistant last year.

  146. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hopefully we’re done with guys like Mario Henderson, Kwame Harris & Barry Sims as well

    Can Bruce Campbell be salvaged?

  147. MistaBrown Says:

    Hue Jacks pedicurist was the head of that dept.
    ______

    MattHenry Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:23 am

    Wait, the Raiders had nobody running Offensive Quality Control last season? Wow.

  148. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Former Raiders OC Al Saunders is staying with the team as a senior assistant through the 2013 season”—

    Fantastic news!

  149. YoungAmerican Says:

    Hopefully Gilmore can do for the Raiders receivers what he did for Woods and Lee at USC.

  150. Raiderfusion Says:

    Marshawn Lynch is a bit of a headcase, but he’s a tough elusive runner that doesn’t get hurt all the time. There’s some good runners out there, maybe we could get draft picks and free up $$ by trading and letting go some of our RB’s. This teams framework is shaping up nicely, let the FA and Draft Games begin. Wasn’t it the Rams who had the Greatest Show on Earth a few years ago with Saunders as their OC. If they can sign a top wr to go w/our youngsters ala Steven Jackson, here comes the Greatest show on Earth II.

  151. Raider O Says:

    It was the Greatest Show On TURF.

  152. YoungAmerican Says:

    Marshawn Lynch = $$$

    Mike Tolbert and BenJarvus Green-Ellis would be reasonable FA targets. But the Raiders may be better off looking to the draft. Plenty of good RBs this year.

  153. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nobody knows anything about quality control guy Eric Sanders.

    Foolish to just assume he’s a dud imo

    Waufle found work pretty quickly. Rod Woodson interviewed with Cincy

    Bresnahan, Biekert, Hunley, Ross = unknown. None of them have a cushy TV gig offer from NFL Network like Rod … Impossible to know if any of those guys will be retained. the DC was just “officially” hired yesterday, right?

  154. 303Raider Says:

    Now that our coaching staf is in place for the most part, Reggie and D.A. Can focus on personnel. The NFL is a copycat league so I would like to see the following:

    1) trade Dmac for proven players or picks. Both SB participants showed you need a potent passing game to win in the playoffs PLUS Dmac is too injury prone and RIGHT NOW he has the most value! If we kept him and he gets hurt, all bets are off.
    2) DO NOT franchise Bush. Sign him to a reasonable salary, develop Taiwan Jones and bring in another low cost back to compete and be in a 3 man rotation.
    3) Beef up our Dline and signa Big Time pass Rusher: Mario Williams, Usi, whoever.
    4) bring in a couple more corners to compete with Chekwa,and DVD. You need 6 deep in the playoffs
    5) bring in a big time Guard, nicks from NO is a Beast!!
    6) figure out to keep Boss or trade him and sign or draft an athletic pass catching TE.

    That’s my wish!!!

  155. RaiderDebo Says:

    Knapp and DeFelippo being back here is so bizzare! I’ve said it a million times, we never should have let these guys leave in the 1st place. We traded two young coaches with promising futures for two blue hairs playing out the string in Tollner and Whackit. It cost this team wins and our #1 overall pick. Poor JaMarcus.

  156. Carl Weathers Says:

    146.RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 8:36 am
    hopefully we’re done with guys like Mario Henderson, Kwame Harris & Barry Sims as well

    Can Bruce Campbell be salvaged?

    @@@@@@@@@@@

    He played DE in HS all 4 years. If he can’t cut it as a Olineman, maybe he can play DE?

    From Wiki~ He played defensive end all four years and started at that spot and offensive tackle his last two years. Campbell had 50 tackles, including 4.5 quarterback sacks, while blocking two PATs and one punt as a junior, and recorded 70 tackles, including six sacks, two forced fumbles and one fumble recovery his senior season in 2005. He subsequently earned PrepStar All-American honors.

  157. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Morning Nation.

  158. Thec Says:

    He was an offensive assistant last year

    +++++++++

    May be so however, the chart above has him listed otherwise…

  159. Raider O Says:

    Bruce Campbell can blame Cable and Injurues for slowing his progress.
    That Fat monkey wanted Veldheer to play C.

  160. Raider O Says:

    Good morning DAV.

  161. Raiderfusion Says:

    Sorry gang I meant Vincent Jackson, not Steven Jackson. I guess most of you don’t like Vincent Jackson, have to admit he looked pretty bad in that first game against us. Floyd last year was the SD we should have gone after. I always like to hurt those in our division, how about Bowe from the Chiefs.

  162. Raider O Says:

    Sign Super Mario.

  163. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Knapp and DeFelippo being back here is so bizzare! I’ve said it a million times, we never should have let these guys leave in the 1st place.

    ***

    Debo,

    do you think we’ll win the “bidding war” for JaMarcus and sign him as #3 QB?

  164. Thec Says:

    Marshawn Lynch is a bit of a headcase,
    +++++

    Can you imagine Marshawn playing football in the town???

    Oil and water do not mix…

    I would love Marshwan to be a Raider however, it would not work him being home….

  165. Thec Says:

    —”Former Raiders OC Al Saunders is staying with the team as a senior assistant through the 2013 season”—

    ++++++++

    Great news if this is true… Might as well get something out of him….

  166. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    I like the Saunders move , now I am anxious to see who will be the linebackers coach. I see a lot of Romo love, that would be cool if that actually happened its nt like he would be calling plays or coming up with diff. Schemes for our defence. I could just picture him grabbing mcclains face Mask and telling him to go boar hunt and bring back some fukkkin bacon in raged !!!

  167. Raider O Says:

    JaBustus?!?!
    He is too busy getting drunk at barbershop.

  168. J Hill Says:

    DMac will be back folks.

    Bush is another story. We’ve known for a while now that Bush wanted to be a lead back and get paid. We’ll get a comp pick for him though, no biggie.

    I don’t see us spending ANY big money in free agency.

    We are 20 million over the cap as of now.

  169. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Thec Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 8:56 am
    He was an offensive assistant last year

    +++++++++

    May be so however, the chart above has him listed otherwise…

    —-

    Its wrong.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Oakland_Raiders_season

  170. Thec Says:

    Raiderfusion Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 8:57 am
    Sorry gang I meant Vincent Jackson, not Steven Jackson. I guess most of you don’t like Vincent Jackson, have to admit he looked pretty bad in that first game against us. Floyd last year was the SD we should have gone after. I always like to hurt those in our division, how about Bowe from the Chiefs.

    +++++++

    Vj is a great player IMO, is a tough match up at 6′5″.

    However,I doubt McKenzie will be signing any big name FA’s….

    We are going to go old fashion, build thru the draft, ad UDFA’s….

  171. Raider O Says:

    I don’t see us spending ANY big money in free agency.

    We are 20 million over the cap as of now.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Source please.

  172. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Amazing that we havent Franchised Giordano yet.

  173. La Milicia Negra Says:

    My wish list, in no particular order

    FB: Le’Ron McClain

    WR: Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Eddie Royal, Dwayne Bowe

    DE: Dave Tollefson, Red Bryant, Andre Carter

    LB: Curtis Lofton, , D’Qwell Jackson, Kirk Morrison

    CB: Aaron Ross, Tracy Porter

    S: Dashon Goldson

  174. RaiderChaos Says:

    The Conversation Continues…. Running Backs…… http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/conversation-continues-nfl-free-agency.html

  175. Thec Says:

    Its wrong.

    +++

    I stand corrected…Should have know considering the source.

    so because he was part of the O, we can keep him…

  176. Raider O Says:

    You can’t build thu the draft when you only have 2 late picks.

  177. J Hill Says:

    do you think we’ll win the “bidding war” for JaMarcus and sign him as #3 QB?

    ——————————————————-

    Wouldn’t that be something, lol!

    Tell me this though …..

    Boller, Pryor, or Russell as the #3 though?

  178. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:03 am
    My wish list, in no particular order

    FB: Le’Ron McClain

    WR: Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Eddie Royal, Dwayne Bowe

    DE: Dave Tollefson, Red Bryant, Andre Carter

    LB: Curtis Lofton, , D’Qwell Jackson, Kirk Morrison

    CB: Aaron Ross, Tracy Porter

    S: Dashon Goldson

    —-

    Ross & Porter, sure..

    That list isnt very sexy.

  179. J Hill Says:

    I would love Marshwan to be a Raider however, it would not work him being home….

    —————————————————–

    Why not?

  180. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t see us spending ANY big money in free agency

    I doubt McKenzie will be signing any big name FA’s….

    We are going to go old fashion, build thru the draft, ad UDFA’s

    ***

    Agreed with Jhill and Thec!

  181. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:04 am
    You can’t build thu the draft when you only have 2 late picks.

    —-

    Touche.

  182. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:05 am
    I would love Marshwan to be a Raider however, it would not work him being home….

    —————————————————–

    Why not?

    —-

    Too close to the Ganja!! Too close to the homies!!

  183. J Hill Says:

    Source please.

    ——————————————————

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.html

  184. J Hill Says:

    Plenty to BOMB tree in Seattle.

    Homies???? Guys can grow up.

    How about being closer to his family?

  185. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Operation Upgrade Defense:

    Aubrayo Franklin
    Dan Connor
    Manny Lawson
    Wesley Woodyard
    Aaron Ross

    All realistic & resonable $ wise..

  186. YoungAmerican Says:

    Reasonably-priced FA targets for the Raiders:

    Tracy Porter or Richard Marshall
    Broderick Bunkley
    Wesley Woodyard or Barrett Ruud
    Mike Tolbert or BenJarvus Green-Ellis

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see Mario Williams become the league’s highest-paid defensive player. That would more than likely put him out of range for the Raiders, but Cliff Avril would not be a bad consolation prize. Would be slightly pricey, but a perfect fit for Allen’s defense.

  187. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:09 am
    Plenty to BOMB tree in Seattle.

    Homies???? Guys can grow up.

    How about being closer to his family?

    —-

    Valid points.

    I agree.

    Dont think he’d come cheap tho. And we have bigger fish to catch & fry.

  188. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Operation Upgrade Defense:

    Broderick Bunkley
    Aubrayo Franklin
    Dan Connor
    Manny Lawson
    Wesley Woodyard
    Aaron Ross

    All realistic & resonable $ wise..

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You can’t build thu the draft when you only have 2 late picks

    ***

    add to that 3 comp picks. plus I’m sure a few players will be on the trade block

    then you get to sort thru all the undrafted guys – like Victor Cruz last year

  190. Raider O Says:

    Understanding the NFL’s salary cap isn’t easy, which is why every team has a capologist to crunch the numbers.

    Placing the franchise tag on Paul Soliai again would eat up all of the Dolphins’ cap space.
    However, being able to understand your budget is important when it comes to knowing what economic lane you or your favorite NFL team fits in.

    Some of us are ballers, and some of us are bargain shoppers. The same applies for NFL clubs heading into 2012 free agency. The Miami Dolphins are stuck somewhere in-between.

    Here’s February’s look at where every NFL team stands from an NFL salary cap standpoint headed into the free agent signing period, which begins on March 13 for players who aren’t cut before then.

    SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!!

    Before you dive into these numbers, and begin the speculation of what’s to come, it is VERY important that we point out a couple of issues.

    First, the salary cap in 2011 was $120,375,000 soft, with teams having the flexibility to borrow $3 million from future years. That means the real cap was $123,375,000.

    The salary cap for 2012 has not been set, but it is projected to be between $121-125 million, with teams being able to borrow another $2 million from future caps. Therefore, we’ll safely project the salary cap to be at $124 million in ’12. But please understand this is an estimation.

    Second, keep in mind that teams must preserve at least $5 million to sign their rookie class. The more picks, the more cap space needed.

    Third, understand that players and their salaries can be purged, or restructured to create salary cap space. However, guessing who that player might be is always risky, and complicated.

    Finally, any player given the franchise tag receivers a guarantee of his annual salary, which is an average of the NFL’s top five players at his position.

    So, last year Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai’s salary of $12.47 million was guaranteed fully, which means every dime of it comes off the books that season. A player tagged a second season receives a 20 percent raise, so if Soliai was tagged again he’d earn a salary of $15 million in 2012 (which is why he likely won’t be tagged again in 2012).

    Now….here’s a look at the numbers, and the teams are broken up in three categories, which are explained.

    POSSIBLE BIG SPENDERS

    Teams that have the cap space to make big moves in free agency.

    Cincinnati Bengals            $80,641,237

    Tennessee Titans             $92,739,765

    Washington Redskins     $94,351,284

    Kansas City Chiefs            $95,844,195

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers  $98,899,458

    Atlanta Falcons                 $100,227,174

    Denver Broncos                $101,389,121

    New England Patriots     $101,827,381

    Chicago Bears                    $101,887,741

    San Francisco 49ers         $102,938,980

    Cleveland Browns            $103,789,162

    WORKING ON A BUDGET

    Teams that aren’t up against the cap, but need to make smart moves to avoid trimming a ton of players and salaries.

    Jacksonville Jaguars        $107,270,274

    Buffalo Bills                         $108,426,522

    Seattle Seahawks              $111,742,430

    San Diego Chargers         $111,960,165

    New Orleans Saints         $113,358,069

    Philadelphia Eagles          $113,964,694

    Baltimore Ravens             $115,670,281

    Minnesota Vikings           $116,078,422

    Houston Texans                 $116,306,676

    Miami Dolphins                 $116,636,173

    Indianapolis Colts             $116,773,288

    Green Bay Packers            $118,001,169

    Arizona Cardinals             $118,787,639

    TIGHTENING THE BELT

    Teams that will be at, or over the projected salary cap once they’ve signed the rookie class. These teams must purge their roster moving forward. The higher the cap number, the more drastic the cut backs need to be.

    St. Louis Rams                   $120,982,904

    Detroit Lions                      $122,760,121

    New York Giants              $124,735,807

    New York Jets                   $128,092,733

    Dallas Cowboys                 $128,910,735

    Carolina Panthers            $129,962,768

    Oakland Raiders               $140,861,316

    Pittsburgh Steelers         $149,885,537

    After taking a look at the early numbers my hope is you’ll understand why the Dolphins can’t do it big in free agency right now (quarterback upgrade is team owner Steve Ross‘ priority, then discount shopping from bargains) without restructuring plenty of contracts, or cutting a few high profile players.

    Also, keep in mind the free agent class will get enhanced over the next few weeks as teams try to get their books in order. Those players can sign with a new team immediately, but keep in mind they are usually damaged goods (injury history, declining play, problematic personalities, etc.).
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Thx J.

  191. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Forgot about Bunkley.

    All but Franklin & Connor have ties to current Raiders also.

  192. J Hill Says:

    140.Raider O Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 8:23 am
    FA wish list:
    1- sign DE Mario Williams
    2- Move Wiz to C & sign G: Nicks/ Grubbs
    3- Sign CB T Porter
    4- Resign S Branch
    5- Sign a big RB: Tolbert/ Hillis
    6- resign Reece & Dez
    7- sign a vet WR
    8- sign a 2nd tier NT
    9- sign OT McNeil if he is cheap due to his history with Injuries
    10- sign a backup QB to give TP more time.

    ——————————————————-

    That’s a pretty good list.

    I can’t see Houston letting Williams walk. IF they did, we could in essence cut Wimbley (apparently there is an out clause in his contract this offseason) and give Williams his money.

    What do you do with ShoNasty and Bryant?

    Bryant should be our starting LDE, imo.

  193. MikieG Says:

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  194. Raider O Says:

    BTW, I don’t know if that’s the best source for cap numbers. I think it’s an estimate.

  195. J Hill Says:

    2- Move Wiz to C & sign G: Nicks/ Grubbs

    ——————————————————

    I’d be more interested in signing Houston’s FA C and leaving Wiz where he is. I think we can get that C a lot cheaper than we can get either of those OGs for.

    Resign Heyer for depth.

  196. RaiderRockstar Says:

    TIGHTENING THE BELT

    Teams that will be at, or over the projected salary cap once they’ve signed the rookie class. These teams must purge their roster moving forward. The higher the cap number, the more drastic the cut backs need to be.

    Oakland Raiders $140,861,316

    ***

    KC, DEN & SD might make a splash in free agency. uh oh!

    We’ll still go 5-1 in the AFC West next year

  197. YoungAmerican Says:

    What do you do with ShoNasty and Bryant?

    Bryant should be our starting LDE, imo.

    ————–

    Platoon Shaughnessy and Bryant at LDE. Move Bryant inside on passing downs.

    Key here is getting a 1-tech DT/0-tech NT type player who can plug gaps. Bunkley would be a decent stopgap, but the Raiders should also target Kendall Reyes and Nicolas Jean-Baptiste in the draft.

  198. RaiderDebo Says:

    What makes Eli Eli

    I’ve noticed this about the guy. Football’s his job, and he likes it a lot. But let’s say God tapped him on the shoulder tomorrow and said, “I’ve got different plans for you. You’re going to be an architect.” Manning would handle that pretty well. He is a sick competitor, but he’d figure a way to satisfy that part of his life. Golf with the other architects, Friday night poker, trying to be a better architect than anyone else out there.

    “He just doesn’t care,” Giants defensive lineman Justin Tuck said by his locker 90 minutes after the Super Bowl. “He doesn’t. If we lose the game today, life goes on. He’s fine. He’ll just start getting ready for next year. That’s who he is.”

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Sounds a lot like a guy we drafted #1 overall a few years ago. Made a few plays himself in the 4th qtr on the rare occaisons his piss-poor D could get him there. If only he’d gotten a chance with an organization as rock-solid as the Giants. Too bad for him that he went where he was drafted instead of trying to force a trade. Smart move Eli. Poor JaMarcus.

  199. J Hill Says:

    9- sign OT McNeil if he is cheap due to his history with Injuries

    ——————————————————-

    I let Campbell and Barksdale battle it out for RT.

    Something more radical is giving Gaither(FA) another shot at LT and moving Veldheer to RT.

  200. qodrn1 Says:

    Wiz is showing up as a Raider coach on the website. I think that’s 11 coaches so far. Are we done yet?

  201. qodrn1 Says:

    sorry, that’s the Raiders website. Its early yet, and the sofa repair guy was here at 7 am.

  202. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    qodrn1 Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Wiz is showing up as a Raider coach on the website. I think that’s 11 coaches so far. Are we done yet?

    —-

    I think we need more than 1 defensive coach.

    Just sayin.

  203. J Hill Says:

    Platoon Shaughnessy and Bryant at LDE.

    ——————————————————

    Those guys are too good to be platoon players.

    I’m thinking cut/trade Kelly and play Bryant at the 3 tech. Get a NT to rotate with Seymour.

    ShoNasty-Bryant-Seymour-Williams

  204. Raider O Says:

    Testing

  205. qodrn1 Says:

    Are we sure the Raider GM is not Adam Shefter? Maybe we should just twit him daily and ask for the Raider report.

  206. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:03 am
    My wish list, in no particular order

    FB: Le’Ron McClain

    WR: Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Eddie Royal, Dwayne Bowe

    DE: Dave Tollefson, Red Bryant, Andre Carter

    LB: Curtis Lofton, , D’Qwell Jackson, Kirk Morrison

    CB: Aaron Ross, Tracy Porter

    S: Dashon Goldson

    —-

    Ross & Porter, sure..

    That list isnt very sexy.
    _______________________________________________________

    Not sexy??

    WR: Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Eddie Royal, Dwayne Bowe

    are all better than any WRs on our team in this millennium..

    McClain is helluva FB, and we need one, Reece i basicly just a TE lining up in the backfield.

    Goldson, was one of the best safeties this season.

  207. J Hill Says:

    But …

    We hired a 3-4 coach, didn’t we?

    Our nickel defense will most likely have 4 DL guys with ShoNasty and Wimbley rushing the passer from the DE position.

    But what are we going to do in non nickle situations?

  208. YoungAmerican Says:

    Those guys are too good to be platoon players.

    I’m thinking cut/trade Kelly and play Bryant at the 3 tech. Get a NT to rotate with Seymour.

    ShoNasty-Bryant-Seymour-Williams

    ————————–

    Trading Kelly is definitely necessary.

    I think Seymour’s days as a starter should be over. Not consistent enough, especially against the run. Put him at DE in short-yardage situations and DT in nickel packages, but otherwise the Raiders have better options at this point.

    I think Houston is stronger against the run than Bryant. He should be the starting 3-tech DT with Bunkley/rookie 1-tech starting next to him in base packages.

    I worry about Shaughnessy’s ability to stay healthy. I say platoon him with Bryant, and if one begins to stand out, roll him him.

    To me, Bryant’s most valuable asset is his versatility. He can backup at DT and both DE spots.

  209. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Im still excited about Saunders staying..

    with Knapps run-happy Offense and Saunders pass-heavy offense, we might get a proper balanced Offense

  210. Raider O Says:

    DE: Mario
    DT: TK or Seymour (I don’t think we keep both), Dez
    DT: Houston, Cheap FA or rookie NT
    DE: Matt/ Wimbley in passing situations

    Great DL
    Our DL > Giants DL

  211. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:03 am
    My wish list, in no particular order

    FB: Le’Ron McClain

    WR: Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Eddie Royal, Dwayne Bowe

    DE: Dave Tollefson, Red Bryant, Andre Carter

    LB: Curtis Lofton, , D’Qwell Jackson, Kirk Morrison

    CB: Aaron Ross, Tracy Porter

    S: Dashon Goldson

    —-

    Ross & Porter, sure..

    That list isnt very sexy.
    _______________________________________________________

    Not sexy??

    WR: Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Eddie Royal, Dwayne Bowe

    are all better than any WRs on our team in this millennium..

    McClain is helluva FB, and we need one, Reece i basicly just a TE lining up in the backfield.

    Goldson, was one of the best safeties this season.

    —-

    Most of those guys wont be available, either due to contract size or re-signing with their team.

    So realistically, yes that list isnt that sexy.

    And Eddie Royal isnt better than DHB, Moore or Ford.

  212. YoungAmerican Says:

    I don’t think the Raiders will run a base 3-4. I expect to see mostly 4-3, since that’s what suits the personnel, with more 3-4 looks sprinkled in.

  213. YoungAmerican Says:

    Shaughnessy – Bunkley/rookie NT – Houston/Seymour – Bryant

  214. J Hill Says:

    YA,

    If I had to take a stand on one player on that DLine, I’d have to say that Bryant at LDE is a MUST.

    If we could somehow end up with Marion Williams, I’d stay in the 4-3 and build the Dline around those 2 at DE.

    Totally agree that Seymour’s snaps need to be cut in half to try and preserve his old arsse. Still a rock when healthy though.

  215. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Thomas Howard would be nice.. :(

    Never should have let him go.

  216. J Hill Says:

    Putting the Williams fantasy aside for a second ….

    Houston and ShoNasty were a solid tandem for us at DE last year.

    Wimbley has to be a full time RDE for us if we don’t cut him.

    Bryant is our best all around option at LDE.

    Is Houston a better 3 tech than Kelly?

    HUGE questions for our Dline this offseason.

  217. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d be more interested in signing Houston’s FA C and leaving Wiz where he is.

    ***

    Me too. Wiz-Myers-Carlisle is an excellent ZBS trio imo

    gotta find that RT

  218. YoungAmerican Says:

    If the Raiders don’t add a DE:

    Shaughnessy – Bunkley/rookie NT – Houston/Seymour – Bryant

    If the Raiders add Williams:

    Williams – Bunkley/rookie NT – Houston/Seymour – Bryant/Shaughnessy

    If the Raiders add Avril:

    Shaughnessy/Bryant – Bunkley/rookie NT – Houston/Seymour/Bryant – Avril/Bryant

  219. J Hill Says:

    I expect to see mostly 4-3, since that’s what suits the personnel

    ——————————————————-

    I disagree.

    I think McClain and Wimbley are better fits for the 3-4.

    I think Bryant, Houston, and Seymour are PERFECT 3-4 DEs

  220. Dmoney Says:

    By Eric Gilmore –

    Report: Former OC Saunders to stay on as offensive assistant

    Former offensive coordinator Al Saunders will remain with the the Raiders as a senior offensive assistant through the 2013 season, NFL.com is reporting.

  221. YoungAmerican Says:

    Is Houston a better 3 tech than Kelly?

    —————

    From what I’ve seen? Yes. All day.

    Higher motor. Can also pressure the passer. Younger. Better gap discipline.

  222. DMAC Says:

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

  223. DMAC Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Is Houston a better 3 tech than Kelly?

    —————

    From what I’ve seen? Yes. All day.

    Higher motor. Can also pressure the passer. Younger. Better gap discipline.
    ==========

    ditto

  224. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Thomas Howard would be nice..

    Never should have let him go

    ***

    Kirk Morrison & Sam Williams, too

    tell Ricky Brown, Darryl Blackstock & Quinton Groves to kick rocks!

  225. DMAC Says:

    Houston is great against the run, but is below-average in rushing the QB. Should be great in the middle, his natural position.

  226. 504 Raider Says:

    What up Nation! Looks like we have a killer staff.

    We don’t need a big time FA Fullback. I think Knapp and Griffith will make Reece a beast of a fullback for our offense. Griffith will Quality Control the eff out of Reece. I see big things fellas.

  227. YoungAmerican Says:

    I think McClain and Wimbley are better fits for the 3-4.

    I think Bryant, Houston, and Seymour are PERFECT 3-4 DEs

    ————–

    I don’t think you can say Wimbley is a better fit for the 3-4. He played in the 3-4 in Cleveland for years, and outside of his rookie season, he struggled.

    McClain would be, yes.

    But the Raiders have no consistent playmaker at OLB. Curry is a less-than-ideal 3-4 fit because of his inability to rush the passer consistently.

    Bryant, Houston, and Seymour fit both systems.

    The problem is that running a base 3-4 requires the Raiders to find a true 0-tech NT either in the draft or FA. They’d overpay for Soliai in FA. Franklin is another option, but it remains to be seen if he can still be a regular contributor. In the draft there are no lights-out, sure-thing NT prospects that will be within the Raiders’ range, and hoping for a late-round rookie to come in and be a solid 2-down contributor probably isn’t wise.

    To run any base defense effectively, the Raiders need similar things. I see them sticking mostly with the 4-3 this season, and slowly but surely including more 3-4 looks as the season goes on. In 2013? Who knows.

  228. hwnrdr Says:

    What’s up DMAC?

  229. DMAC Says:

    TH was great in pass coverage, but was horrible against the run, when he played for us.

  230. J Hill Says:

    Wassup DMac.

    I dunno fellas.

    I’m just not mad at Tommy “Cheeleh Dawg” Kelly as the rest of you cats are.

    He’s every bit the penetrating DT Al asked him to be.

  231. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    What’s up DMAC?
    =========

    Schit, nothin much.
    Looks like we hire a good WR coach.

  232. YoungAmerican Says:

    Houston just isn’t suited to rushing the passer from the DE spot, where he has to work against RTs who are generally longer, heavier players than he is.

    He belongs on the inside where he can use his leverage and make plays in the backfield.

  233. hwnrdr Says:

    231.DMAC Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:51 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    What’s up DMAC?
    =========

    Schit, nothin much.
    Looks like we hire a good WR coach.

    Love it, especially that we got him from Kiffin’s staff! Too funny!

  234. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DAV..

    its a freaking wishlist, no-one said it should be realistic!!!

    Eddie Royal, is helluva player! great hands, fast, but what really makes him better than any of our players, is he is a great route runner, most Carson Palmers INTs came because our WR’s didnt run the right route, or stopped running it during the pass…

  235. 504 Raider Says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing T Howard come back here.

    LBs: Wimbley, RoMac, Bad Back, and Groves shouls be the only holdovers from last year.

    Bring in FAs and Rookies to fill the rest.

  236. DMAC Says:

    J Hill Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Wassup DMac.

    I dunno fellas.

    I’m just not mad at Tommy “Cheeleh Dawg” Kelly as the rest of you cats are.

    He’s every bit the penetrating DT Al asked him to be.
    =============

    I think the interior of our line is due for a change J Heezy.
    I’m tired of getting gashed.
    It’s still hard to tell, since we have another sorry ass MLB.

  237. doriangray Says:

    why the espn folks always pick san diego to win our dividoin every year ? when the last time they won it ? & whats all this ‘ talent they see? i see rivers , floyd , jackson , gates and weddle. who else ?

  238. YoungAmerican Says:

    It’s not TK’s fault that he plays the same position as Seymour, Houston, and Bryant.

    But he’s the only one with a tradeable contract; much older than Bryant and Houston but not as old as Seymour; paid a lot more than the young kids, but not to the point of being untradeable like Seymour.

    Problem is, he’s a 3-tech being forced to play 1-tech. His gap discipline is less than stellar, though. He gets wiped out by double-teams, which 1-tech players are frequently expected to take on.

  239. 504 Raider Says:

    LMN,

    I don’t recall Eddie Royal making much of an impact after his very first game his rookie year.

  240. DMAC Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Houston just isn’t suited to rushing the passer from the DE spot, where he has to work against RTs who are generally longer, heavier players than he is.

    He belongs on the inside where he can use his leverage and make plays in the backfield.
    ===========

    Ok YA,
    We’re back on the same page 2day.
    lol

  241. J Hill Says:

    The problem is that running a base 3-4 requires the Raiders to find a true 0-tech NT either in the draft or FA.

    ——————————————————-

    I think that more myth than anything.

    The Texans pulled a guy outta nowhere who is barely 6 ft and weighs under 300lbs.

    Hampton went down for Pitts and there D kept on truckin.

    Dallas’ DT is not a big guy or high draft pick.

    When the Jets big NT went down last year, who filled in for him?

    Agree that NT and OLB would be needs if we did switch to the 3-4. Maybe ShoNasty can drop 10 lbs and make the switch to OLB like Williams did?

  242. doriangray Says:

    yep eddie royal might do good in oakland. i always wanted xavier adibi – hes very good. i wanted paul posluvsky or however u spell his retarded name. and we need 2 get the great jimmy clausen to back up palmer . i always believed he had sumtin special in him .

  243. hwnrdr Says:

    I think that has been a problem for years! Everyone playing out of position!

  244. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I see Marcus McNeil is about to be waived, and probably will struggle to pass a physical.

    So, can we stop giving “kudo’s” for knocking out McNeil in the San Diego game?

    I mean, he left the game before, suited up for about a series, got banged again and is pretty much done for.

    It’s like giving Mike Tyson kudo’s for knocking out Peter McNeeley.

  245. RaiderReggie Says:

    I like this young coaching staff. The Raiders are starting to operate like the other 31 teams in the NFL. I think we are going to be just fine. Last year I heard some people including the so call experts talking about how the 49ers were making a mistake with hiring Jim Harbaugh. That young coach made a good football player out of Alex Smith.

  246. J Hill Says:

    I think the interior of our line is due for a change J Heezy.

    ———————————————————-

    There is going to be some change.

    Scheme wise, they won’t be asked to do the same thing.

    Don’t you think part of the problems of the past few years have been what the DL was asked to do?

    Do you think the new guys will have them be more occupiers than penetrators?

  247. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kudo’s for Aaron Curry that is.

  248. hwnrdr Says:

    It’s like giving Mike Tyson kudo’s for knocking out Peter McNeeley.

    OUCH! LOL! Peter “The Hurricane” McNeeley!

  249. doriangray Says:

    tommy kelly seems like a end in a 3-4 . but i believe the nation has grown tired of his ineffectiveness. and the problem the raiders would have running a 3-4 is the same problem cleveland had — DUMB LINEBACKERS aaron curry is a moron . kam wimbley is simple minded. and rolando mcclain ? god!! we need at least 1 white boy & cerebral guys that can play 3-4 ..

    we also have soft safteies ,, huff & branch. their run support would be disastrous

  250. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You utilize your D-lineman as “occupiers” when you have confidence in your LB’s to come clean things up consistantly.

    Do we have such confidence in our LB’s?

  251. 504 Raider Says:

    242.doriangray Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:57 am
    yep eddie royal might do good in oakland. i always wanted xavier adibi – hes very good. i wanted paul posluvsky or however u spell his retarded name. and we need 2 get the great jimmy clausen to back up palmer . i always believed he had sumtin special in him .

    ————————————————————————————————————————

    Jimmy Clausen would never work in Oakland:

    Our helmets are silver not gold. Our Coach is skinny not Fat. And we play against other NFL defenses.

  252. J Hill Says:

    So, can we stop giving “kudo’s” for knocking out McNeil in the San Diego game?

    ——————————————————–

    Uh, no!

    That was a HELLUVA hit by Curry on a player much bigger than he was.

    Was THE play of the game as it allowed Wimbley to have his way the rest of the game.

  253. DMAC Says:

    So, can we stop giving “kudo’s” for knocking out McNeil in the San Diego game?
    ==========

    I’ll keep giving kudos to AC.
    He literally won that game for us.
    Wimbley didn’t do schit, until the back-up LT came in.
    It was cookies after that. The rest of the line fed off Wimbley’s play.

  254. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    242.doriangray Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:57 am
    yep eddie royal might do good in oakland. i always wanted xavier adibi – hes very good. i wanted paul posluvsky or however u spell his retarded name. and we need 2 get the great jimmy clausen to back up palmer . i always believed he had sumtin special in him .

    —————————————
    Yeah Eddie Royal knows how to get open and make yards. Pretty good hands as well.

  255. YoungAmerican Says:

    I think that more myth than anything.

    The Texans pulled a guy outta nowhere who is barely 6 ft and weighs under 300lbs.

    Hampton went down for Pitts and there D kept on truckin.

    Dallas’ DT is not a big guy or high draft pick.

    When the Jets big NT went down last year, who filled in for him?

    Agree that NT and OLB would be needs if we did switch to the 3-4. Maybe ShoNasty can drop 10 lbs and make the switch to OLB like Williams did?

    ——————————–

    It’s not that it hasn’t been done before. Nor that the NT position specifically requires a guy who is exactly 6′3 and exactly 330 pounds.

    It’s that it’s hard to find guys who can do specifically what the NT position requires of them.

    It’s not as simple as finding a guy on the street and plugging him in.

  256. doriangray Says:

    thing is. u gotta get rid of somebody substantial if u really want to change the locker rooom mindset. u gotta shake up the practices. tommy kelly & sissy azz mike huff MUST go!! must… the defense here has been bad too long . we gotta cut ties .

  257. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:54 am
    DAV..

    its a freaking wishlist, no-one said it should be realistic!!!

    Eddie Royal, is helluva player! great hands, fast, but what really makes him better than any of our players, is he is a great route runner, most Carson Palmers INTs came because our WR’s didnt run the right route, or stopped running it during the pass…

    —-

    Why even waste your time on an un-realistic wish list? This isnt Madden.

    Eddie Royal is not better than DHB, Moore or Ford. Period.

    Palmer’s picks had more to do with..hmm..idk.. no off-season, never working with these WRs before.. just a hunch.

  258. La Milicia Negra Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    LMN,

    I don’t recall Eddie Royal making much of an impact after his very first game his rookie year.
    _________________________________________________________

    well, the thing is, Denver only plays us twice a year, I guess you havent seen any of their other games then?

  259. doriangray Says:

    504raider, please, u may hate notre dame or sumtin but reallly ? our helmets aint red & yellow either but we got carson palmer . JIMMY clausen can be great. would be an huge upgrade at number 2 over kyle boller.

  260. YoungAmerican Says:

    If it’s 3-4, the Raiders need NT and OLB.

    If it’s 4-3, the Raiders need 1-tech DT and DE.

    But again, the Raiders will run both. Right now, they have players who are slightly more suited for the 4-3 (McClain is the only exception here, and make no mistake, the coaching staff will bring in a player to push him). That will be their emphasis this season. Going forward? Who knows.

  261. DMAC Says:

    Since I’ve already struck out twice on trying to guess who Allen brings in. I still have one out left to give it another shot.

    Allen brings in Standford TE’s coach Ron Crook.

  262. doriangray Says:

    disagree on edie royal being not better than jacoby ford. ford aint done much . he better show out next season cus raider fans act like hes steve smith .

  263. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Was THE play of the game as it allowed Wimbley to have his way the rest of the game.

    ************************

    If Curry didn’t do it, someone else would have.

    My point is, that dude was hanging on by a string.

    But, hey, that’s what bullies do right? Knock out the weakling and than get your azz handed to you a month later by his backup.

  264. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    doriangray Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    disagree on edie royal being not better than jacoby ford. ford aint done much . he better show out next season cus raider fans act like hes steve smith .

    —-

    What has Royal done since the Hall toasting?

    F

  265. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Eddie Royal returns punts, which is massively more valuable than kick returns in today’s NFL with all the touchbacks now.

  266. doriangray Says:

    if that big slow white linebacker for the giants in the superbowl can make plays … i know rolando mclain can. he just gotta care more. eric weddle said on jim rome hes about tp start back workin out next week. cus he wants to be great. u just know mcclain gonna take the whole summer off.

  267. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Eddie Royal returns punts, which is massively more valuable than kick returns in today’s NFL with all the touchbacks now.

    —-

    That actually sounds like a better argument FOR kick returners. :)

  268. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:54 am
    DAV..

    its a freaking wishlist, no-one said it should be realistic!!!

    Eddie Royal, is helluva player! great hands, fast, but what really makes him better than any of our players, is he is a great route runner, most Carson Palmers INTs came because our WR’s didnt run the right route, or stopped running it during the pass…

    —-

    Why even waste your time on an un-realistic wish list? This isnt Madden.

    Eddie Royal is not better than DHB, Moore or Ford. Period.

    Palmer’s picks had more to do with..hmm..idk.. no off-season, never working with these WRs before.. just a hunch.
    _______________________________________________________

    a wish, is a wish.. it doesnt have to be realistic, and no need for you to be concerned about how i use my time!

    and yeah, the lag of chemistry with the WRs was part of it, but more than half the INTs was due to our WRs not running a proper route! exclamation mark.

  269. doriangray Says:

    lets look up eddie royals stats the last two season why dont we ? cus i believe he had 80 sumtin catches the season be4 pathetic throwin tebow came. j ford cant even play 80 minutes in a season .

  270. DutchRaider77 Says:

    So did Al Saunders “interview” for the KC job to get recon for Allen on the Queefs?

  271. La Milicia Negra Says:

    you clearly havent wathced any of Eddie Royals games

  272. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Well put a disclaimer on your posts that says “DONT PAY ATTENTION TO THIS, ITS NOT REALISTIC”

    And I wont have to waste MY time on it.. :)

  273. La Milicia Negra Says:

    what was DennisAllenVisor’s former moniker ??

  274. doriangray Says:

    i just cant get over carson palmer throwin that int against green bay. i mean. us on this blog woulda just threw the ball outta bounds. he was outside the pocket. & just gave the ball 2 the linebacker. ever since pittsburgh hurt his knee in the playoffs – carson has been shaky . hes afraid on the field.

  275. J Hill Says:

    YA,

    I think the area that needs to be addresses first and foremost on our defense is the LB core.

    Let’s assume that McKenzie does the prudent thing and gets out from under the Wimbley contract.

    McClain and Curry would be best suited as ILBs in the 3-4 vs MLB and SLB in the 4-3, imo.

    We have the Dline talent to go either way with an addition here or there. 4-3 RDE is more difficult to find than a 3-4 NT, imo, but that’s debateable.

    Outside of cutting or trading McClain, it seems like it makes sense to put him and Curry in the position to be dominant playmakers for us, don’t you think?

  276. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DAV..

    maybe so, no need to pay attention to your load of bull manure, since you dont have any clue about what you are talking about.

  277. La Milicia Negra Says:

    is DAV Oakglenn? I actually think so

  278. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    DAV..

    maybe so, no need to pay attention to your load of bull manure, since you dont have any clue about what you are talking about.

    —-

    No need to get girly. I never said there was anything wrong with your posts. I was referring to the wish list being unrealistic.

    My name used to be ‘DeuceDeuce’

  279. doriangray Says:

    let the records show that im the 1st to call for jimmy clausen . so when he leads us to greatness give me my credit

  280. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So did Al Saunders “interview” for the KC job to get recon for Allen on the Queefs?

    ***

    @Dutch

    unfortunately, it’s already been made known that Matt Cassel will be retained as the starting QB over there. I was hoping we’d get to face Kyle Orton twice again next season. We’re 4-0 against the guy the past two seasons with Marshall & Bresnahan as DC’s!

    Tebow & Cassel beat us last year

  281. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Here’s Eddie Royal’s mind boggeling stats the last 3 years:

    2009 37 345 9.3 0

    2010 59 627 10.6 3

    2011 19 155 8.2 1

  282. RaiderRockstar Says:

    My name used to be ‘DeuceDeuce’

    ***

    DennisAllensVisor,

    I thought it was ‘MattGiordanoRocks’ ???

  283. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Eddie Royal = poor man’s Louis Murphy

  284. doriangray Says:

    & now … jacoby fords stats ??

  285. zopi Says:

    Talking about credibility.

    I’ve been posting comments on the Raiders blogsphere ever since they started in the late 90s. Too long to mention. Now, I don’t post anywhere else other than here, much less with any other identity. It’s hard enough keeping one let alone having multiple personalities.

    However, to see that many here have the multiple personality syndrome. So next time any of these shizoids questions my credibility, I’ll take that from the source. Be a man and stand up who you are, not who you pretend to be.

  286. Raider O Says:

    I don’t think E Royal is better than any WR on our roster including Murphy.

  287. raiderdav Says:

    Raiders assistant Saunders under contract through 2013
    Former Oakland Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders will remain with team, a league source said Wednesday.
    The Raiders hired Houston Texans quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp as their new offensive coordinator last week, and Saunders will remain on the team’s staff after seeing Dennis Allen replace Hue Jackson as head coach.

    Saunders will serve as a senior assistant and is under contract through the 2013 season.

  288. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    My name used to be ‘DeuceDeuce’

    ***

    DennisAllensVisor,

    I thought it was ‘MattGiordanoRocks’ ???

    —-

    That was my next choice.. lol

  289. doriangray Says:

    lol,, eddie royal hasnt got this much play on a raiders or broncos blog since he footbally raped deangelo hall.

  290. J Hill Says:

    So our QB has Knapp and Defilippo to go along with Saunders this season instead of JUST Saunders.

    Massive upgrade!

  291. Raider O Says:

    Keep Saunders. He has great exp, and he is good insurance if things don’t go well with Knapp.
    I love it.
    Great move. I knew Allen and Reggie were not idiots.

  292. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Eddie Royal = poor man’s Louis Murphy
    ________________________________________________________

    but Royal is without a history with injuries, and he has the ability to run routes through/to the end which Murphy doesnt.. Murphy’s hands are doubtful, I wouldnt mind a swicharoo at all

  293. doriangray Says:

    mighty funny how ya love to hate on the only dude in our secondary that made plays all season. we all know gio aint hall of fame. but weve seen thru other teams that u need slow white playmakers to win games. chase blackburn ?– is he so fantastic? rob f`n ninkovich ? matt gio made it into the nfl and he plays harder on defense than everybody on our dumb team other than aaron curry .

  294. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So our QB has Knapp and Defilippo to go along with Saunders this season instead of JUST Saunders.

    Massive upgrade!

    ***

    Jhill,

    Hue Jackson doesn’t get any credit or blame for working with Campbell, Boller & Palmer the past two years?

    I mean, the guy was a QB Coach before he got here!

  295. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Jacoby Ford:

    2010 25 470 18.8 2

    2011 19 279 14.7 1

  296. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    In 24 games the last 2 years

    Ford has 749 3

    In 28 games the last 2 years

    Royal has 782 4

  297. La Milicia Negra Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Here’s Eddie Royal’s mind boggeling stats the last 3 years:

    2009 37 345 9.3 0

    2010 59 627 10.6 3

    2011 19 155 8.2 1
    _______________________________________________________

    compare that to the WR #2 and #3 on the raider roster, and its quite all right, huh?

  298. DMAC Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Keep Saunders. He has great exp, and he is good insurance if things don’t go well with Knapp.
    I love it.
    Great move. I knew Allen and Reggie were not idiots.
    =========

    O Dog!
    wassup wit it homie?
    Its nice to have Saunders back.
    Hopefully he won’t be needed to take over the OC position.

  299. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Form your opinions..

    Royal isnt better than Ford IMO.

  300. YoungAmerican Says:

    J Hill Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 10:13 am

    YA,

    I think the area that needs to be addresses first and foremost on our defense is the LB core.

    Let’s assume that McKenzie does the prudent thing and gets out from under the Wimbley contract.

    McClain and Curry would be best suited as ILBs in the 3-4 vs MLB and SLB in the 4-3, imo.

    We have the Dline talent to go either way with an addition here or there. 4-3 RDE is more difficult to find than a 3-4 NT, imo, but that’s debateable.

    Outside of cutting or trading McClain, it seems like it makes sense to put him and Curry in the position to be dominant playmakers for us, don’t you think?

    ————————-

    You’re right, the linebacking corps is where the most question marks are.

    Curry and McClain are just as likely to be cut as Wimbley. McClain already got all his guaranteed money. Curry is set to make $5 million next season, none of which is guaranteed. And allegedly there’s an out in the Wimbley contract.

    No idea what the Raiders intend on doing at LB this season, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a couple new faces starting for the Raiders – if not by opening day, then at least by the midpoint of the season.

  301. Raider O Says:

    Veldheer playing C
    Fargas over DMAC & Bush
    B Campbell playing G

    What is the Fat monkey doing in Seattle?

  302. DMAC Says:

    Time to cut McClain and sign EJ Henderson.
    Instant upgrade!

  303. La Milicia Negra Says:

    doriangray Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 9:55 am

    why the espn folks always pick san diego to win our dividoin every year ? when the last time they won it ? & whats all this ‘ talent they see? i see rivers , floyd , jackson , gates and weddle. who else ?
    _________________________________________________________

    next season KC will be the team we compete with to win the division imo..

  304. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What is the Fat monkey doing in Seattle?

    ***

    O,

    he convinced Pete & Co to overpay for Robert Gallery & Zach Miller … who did nothing

    Their O-Line ranked 29th in the NFL, allowing 50 sacks and a league high 114 QB hits!

  305. DMAC Says:

    New post semi-slackers!

  306. DutchRaider77 Says:

    but Royal is without a history with injuries, and he has the ability to run routes through/to the end which Murphy doesnt.. Murphy’s hands are doubtful, I wouldnt mind a swicharoo at all

    _______________________________________________

    Royal has had a lot of injuries! He was injured a lot last year alone. It has been all down hill since his rookie year.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoyaEd00.htm

  307. Rekleiner Says:

    retread greg take a knapp. whew. show me that you’re a better offensive coordinator than the 7 STEP DROPS you made jaCARCUS russell make. even though russell was a terrible player, you put him in the worst position. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 steps, OH sack. the season of sacks. it was horrid. his offensive playcalling stunk.

    ooo wow texans make it to the playoffs–their team was established before take a KNAPP got there. we got the most predictable offensive mind in football. every fan in the stands knew what play was gonna happen, and you can imagine the other team did as well. i hope he’s changed. HAHAH.

    i dont know why he came back. maybe theyre gonna pay him more probably, because al wouldnt have paid him much to begin with, but are you coming back for a paycheck? i cannot hardly believe that greg knapp is ready for the verbal beatings that hes gonna get here in oakland. if i were him id stay far away from the silver and black, because the taste that he left in my mouth–IS STILL THERE. its bitter. very bitter and very sour.

    even with jabustus and the offense he had, his playcalling was not imaginary, did NOT put the players in the best position to win. this is some buuuuuushiiii. you serious? you kidding me? art shell came back #2 that was successful…tom walsh came back #2 oh that was successful…how many retreads do we need to have in oakland to know that it just doesnt work out? and WHERE are the great offensive minds of the decade? you mean to tell me that dennis allen couldnt find someone better than greg knapp to call plays? lets just take last yrs playbook and schitcan it.

    for the most part the plays were pretty dynamic last year. they were exciting, and we didnt do too bad at 8-8. i expected more, we shoulda done more, but that was on the DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL folks.

    and FASSEL. lets get rid of the guy who has done the best job here in years in special teams! he was a great special teams coach! he had our special teams playing awesome football. and hes gone. we lost the best special teams coach in the division for sure, and we lost a good, solid offensive coordinator.

    Al Saunders was the guy! all the mistakes were made by hue jackson–stupid mistakes. head coach dumb moves. saunders was the guy who made up the offense, why not let saunders call the offense that he made? it would have come out a much better season offensively, and we did pretty good offensively! THATS NOT THE PROBLEM WITH OUR TEAM! how could you let fassel go, saunders go, and hire greg LETS TAKE A knapp 2. totally new offense.

    if i hear that freakin word REBUILDING im gonna throw up all over the door of the alameda facility. did they get rid of al saunders because it would now be an excuse to go backwards and start all over and have an excuse to have a 4 win season next year? is that what this whole thing is about? because raider nation, thats how it is! i feel like they schitcanned al saunders to give them some wiggle room in the losses and wins for next season. now they can use the old and tired excuse of “well we had to put in a new offense, and the players didn’t get it.” thats bullschit. if i was making millions of dollars a year i better get that playbook down, and i better do it quick.

    i still dont see how greg knapp can fit into the mold of our current quarterbacks. jason campbell and carson palmer–BOTH of which are long ball quarterbacks. they are guys who have to stay in the pocket. jason campbell had a way better pocket presence by a MILLION TIMES than palmer. he could at least get to the outside and make a play, where palmer’s legs were like stuck in the mud or in concrete. he can NOT evade a tackle in the pocket to save his life or our team for crying out loud.

    he’s a good quarterback when it comes from passing from the pocket, but any pressure on him and he can not evade for dogcrap. and we’re gonna expect him to run the west coast offense??? knapp is gonna expect palmer to run to one side, run to the other side, keep the play alive…well let me tell ya partna it aint gonna happen. it didnt happen last year and certainly not gonna be something that happens this season. i dont care what the excuse was last year, carson palmer has legs of stone, and they dont move very fast at all.

    greg knapp = bad hire.

  308. Raider O Says:

    DMAC,

    I’m real excited to have him back my latino brother. I love you people… lol

  309. daraider09 Says:

    We are fine at the WR position.
    Theres just no 2 ways about it.

    We need to focus 1000% on the defensive side of the ball. Whether its 4-3 or 3-4 that is the problem of this team.

    Offense was extremely injured and went through a lot of BS circumstances and bad luck and still finished 9th in the entire NFL in total offense. Those arent excuses, they are facts.

    People penalize raider WRs in their evaluations for missing games due to injury, but ignore the talent when they’re actually on the field.

    Look outside of a box score for once.

    ALl the WRs get back on the field in week 17, STILL WITHOUT DMC and Carson throws for 417.

    Why is this ignored?

    The entire season is the defense’s fault. Not the WRs or QB.

    MAKE SOMEONE PUNT!!

  310. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    Is raider o really the assistant coach Randy something that cable punched in the jaw, why so much hate on cable? Cable did decent for the time he was here.

  311. raiderzmaverick Says:

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:47 am

    Marley Bob Says:
    February 8th, 2012 at 7:39 am
    So now we have 3 coaches with ties to Lane Kiffin, Knapp was his OC, Filippo QB coach and Gilmore was his choice for WR’s coach before he backed down.

    I’m guessing Knapp’s input was the primary reason we brought those guys is.

    *****************

    If you remember the Raiders Offensive staff was gutted after the disastrous 2006 season and Kiffin hired Atlanta’s offensive staff almost lock stock and barrel at the Senior bowl after Mora was fired as HC there. It was a package of Cable and others that came with Knapp. These guys have history and background together from Atlanta and I mean DA as well.
    ================================
    Problem with this was that they weren’t particularly successful in Atlanta (never finished in above #16 in scoring or total yards). And it also didn’t turn out so good with us (yeah, I know we had crappy personnel).

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