Raiders confirm Saunders’ return
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, February 8th, 2012 at 12:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders confirmed through a press release that Al Saunders will be back for a second season. Saunders’ new title is senior offensive assistant.
Saunders was the Raiders offensive coordinator in 2011. However, new head coach Dennis Allen hired Greg Knapp to be his offenive coordinator.
It’s likely that Saunders will be a resource for Knapp, Allen, new quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo and wide receivers coach Ted Gilmore. (Note: the Raiders have not confirmed the hiring of DeFilippo and Gilmore).
Allen now is free to turn his attention toward finding a defensive line coach, linebackers coach and tight ends coach to round out his staff.
Saunders interviewed with the Kansas City Chiefs for their offensive coordinator vacancy. The Chiefs ultimately went with Brian Daboll.
Saunders was under contract with the Raiders for 2012. So, it makes sense to keep him around and tap into his vast knowleged rather than to let him walk and pay him for nothing. ESPN reported that the Raiders extended Saunders’ contract through 2013.
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February 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
February 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
The last decade, Al had a certain way of doing things…if a coach he hired came to him with a different vision, he’ll tell him, “Ok, we’ll do it your way until you start losing…” Many couldn’t handle it…Whether it was talent(less) or bad coaching…whatever it was, it always led back to Al’s ways! Change came on October 8, 2011! RIP!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
tres
February 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
The Al Davis of the 1970s would have had nothing but contempt for what the Al Davis of the 2000s became.
Agreed!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
quinto
February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
YA but define Als legacy by the last decade is skewing his impact. Even in that last decade the raiders werein the super bowl, how many teams have been to the game since 2000?
before you say gruden, the team was a veteran team…made of players brought in the Al Davis way….
February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
corkran, trying to be on the ball. still getting scope by the Semi’s….
February 8th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
This is great news…
February 8th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
olinesux Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
YA but define Als legacy by the last decade is skewing his impact. Even in that last decade the raiders werein the super bowl, how many teams have been to the game since 2000?
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One Superbowl appearance in two decades – a blowout against a coach that the owner traded away.
Yes, Al helped shape the NFL. That doesn’t mean his way is the only way to win football games, nor does it mean the Raiders should eternally be beholden to one way of playing the game.
In today’s NFL, if you don’t adapt to your situation you get left behind. That’s what Al didn’t understand, and that’s why people are, on the whole, pretty excited about a new era of Raider football – where WINNING is paramount, and the team is “allowed” to do whatever it takes to win.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Thec Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
corkran, trying to be on the ball. still getting scope by the Semi’s….
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Corky wishes he could be on the semi’s level.
What up Thec
February 8th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
As I first reported, Johnny Holland finalizing deal to become our LB coach.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
As I first reported, Johnny Holland finalizing deal to become our LB coach.
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Can’t fk with the semi’s
lol
February 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I think this was the best move so far. We shouldnt see alot of drop off from last year game plan.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
ok YA, how many seasons of slow, small teams will be enough?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I’m 0-6 so far on the coaching hires
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DMAC,
I sure had the HC, OC, DC & QB Coach hires wrong..
O-Line coach I was pretty sure would remain Bob Wylie, so theres another strike on the record.
Skipper, Saunders & Wiz retained doesn’t surprise me.
I don’t have any guesses for D-Line coach.
I knew Rod Woodson wouldn’t be asked back, even if he wanted to stay. I thought maybe Lionel Washington would come back (Reggie Mac connection) – wrong again
shoot man, guess i’m 0-6 too!
Jerry Glanville for LB Coach/Asst HC ???
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Do we have the most ‘fit’ coaching staff or what?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
olinesux Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
ok YA, how many seasons of slow, small teams will be enough?
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Every team wants big, fast players. Most of them, however, look for big, fast players who can actually play football.
When your only plan is “big” and “fast”, real football teams will eat your lunch.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Saunders got a contract extension!
I’m getting real excited about our chances next season despite the salary cap issues.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RR,
I’m going w/ Ron Crook (Stanford) for TE’s coach.
Gotta nail one.
lol
February 8th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
olinesux Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
ok YA, how many seasons of slow, small teams will be enough?
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Every team wants big, fast players. Most of them, however, look for big, fast players who can actually play football.
When your only plan is “big” and “fast”, real football teams will eat your lunch.
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ex: The last 10 years.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
As I first reported, Johnny Holland finalizing deal to become our LB coach
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DD,
link? source?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
DMAC Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RR,
I’m going w/ Ron Crook (Stanford) for TE’s coach.
Gotta nail one.
lol
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Id be very happy with that hire.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Jerry Glanville for LB Coach/Asst HC ???
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I harp on this a TON, but how good a teacher is he? Can he teach fundamentals, positioning, tackling and whatnot?
He just seems a little…Hollywood.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I’m going w/ Ron Crook (Stanford) for TE’s coach.
Gotta nail one.
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DMAC,
who coached up Dwayne Allen, Orson Charles, Evan Rodriguez & David Paulson?
one of those coaches!
brb – let me get you a name or two
February 8th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
One more quick bite about Hue: how humiliating for the poor guy if JOHN FREAKING SHOOP gets an OC job while he’s still unemployed?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I guess all the “quotes” that Saunders was under contract, was a tell as they say in Poker.
Plenty of uses for a savy, old man, but plenty of reasons why said savy old men shouldn’t be calling plays.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
DMAC Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Thec Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
corkran, trying to be on the ball. still getting scope by the Semi’s….
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Corky wishes he could be on the semi’s level.
What up Thec
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whats good DMAC? All is well…cork cant touch the Semi’s….they make this blog 24/7….
February 8th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
The Al Davis of the 1970s would have had nothing but contempt for what the Al Davis of the 2000s became.
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I’d been saying the same thing for the last 6 or 7 years, got called all kinds of names for it.
Now lookey, lookey.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
One more quick bite about Hue: how humiliating for the poor guy if JOHN FREAKING SHOOP gets an OC job while he’s still unemployed?
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There are always many reasons why the hot stripper, is single.
Trust is at the top of the list.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
gonna be a sorry year with crap knapp…
February 8th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Best news so far on the O side.
Over or Under… Saunders takes over as OC/Play Caller after week 5?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I harp on this a TON, but how good a teacher is he? Can he teach fundamentals, positioning, tackling and whatnot?
He just seems a little…Hollywood.
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LOL @ Duck. Jerry G is a Podunker
many HC & DC stints. former LB himself. coached LB’s for 5 years at Georgia Tech. was named HC of the Hartford Colonials (UFL) before they dissolved
February 8th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
So are we going to have a front-loaded road schedule again this season, because the dirt infield is an embaressment to the Raiders and the NFL in general?
Kick Rocks A’s!!!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Over or Under… Saunders takes over as OC/Play Caller after week 5?
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Greater chance he is dead after week 5.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I harp on this a TON, but how good a teacher is he? Can he teach fundamentals, positioning, tackling and whatnot?
He just seems a little…Hollywood.
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LOL @ Duck. Jerry G is a Podunker
many HC & DC stints. former LB himself. coached LB’s for 5 years at Georgia Tech. was named HC of the Hartford Colonials (UFL) before they dissolved
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Yeah, and when he coached the Oilers and Falcons, didn’t he ride motorcycles onto the practice field and leave tickets for Elvis at the “Will Call” window?
That’s what I meant by “Hollywood.” He might be a little more concerned with his image than his coaching.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RDR…five games is over by 1
February 8th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Sanders being back is nothing but good news.
He may have had the title of OC but Hue was calling the plays and calling the shots.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
So are we going to have a front-loaded road schedule again this season, because the dirt infield is an embaressment to the Raiders and the NFL in general?
Kick Rocks A’s!!!!!
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Its not like the A’s are playing baseball anyways..
February 8th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Look at the NY Giants they run and Al Davis style defense and were successful at it the difference is they actually have the talent to do it and do it well.
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More importanly the have the discipline and focus. I wouldn’t say they are more talented than us on defense overall.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Al Saunders is 65 years old.
He ain’t calling plays, and standing on the sidelines for 4 hours.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Kick Rocks A’s!!!!!
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A’s = Oakland Athletics (3629-3368 W-L, 1968 – 2011) – 4 World Championships, 6 Pennants, and 15 Playoff Appearances
SF Giants = San Francisco Giants (4455-4136 W-L, 1958 – 2011) – 1 World Championship, 4 Pennants, and 9 Playoff Appearances
Get on our level!!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Look at the NY Giants they run and Al Davis style defense and were successful at it the difference is they actually have the talent to do it and do it well.
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More importanly the have the discipline and focus. I wouldn’t say they are more talented than us on defense overall.
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They have the explosive DE’s that we dont.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Greater chance he is dead after week 5.
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You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of anything about Al Saunders. The guy still runs like 20 miles a day. He is certainly the most athletic amongst our coaching staff
February 8th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Giants are an Al Davis type of defense?
They play A LOT of zone.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
@DMAC
Do you think the A’s could/would be better with a new owner?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Bcz24,
That was years ago.
Can’t find any links that he is running to work these days, and looked every bit 65 years old last season.
If he is the most “Athletic” amongst our coaching staff, than we have issues.
I would bet he isn’t more “athletic” than some of the “Athlets” posting on here.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Greater chance he is dead after week 5.
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You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of anything about Al Saunders. The guy still runs like 20 miles a day. He is certainly the most athletic amongst our coaching staff
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Ability to run doesnt equate athleticism lol..
But, I see your point, he’s in great shape for his age.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
@DMAC
Do you think the A’s could/would be better with a new owner?
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Hell fk’n yeah!
Fk Wolf and Billy!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Al Saunders might be able to shuffle along for 4 hours running, but that doesn’t mean Rod Gillmore couldn’t run circles around him in any athletic type of event.
65 years old!!!
That’s fkn old man
February 8th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dude there were articles from LAST SEASON talking about him still running to work. Hue talked in camp/preseason about Al running up and down the field with the offense. You cant find any current articles on it because there are some many stories from the last week or so about him interviewing for KC & resigning here.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
50
I do remember that^^^^^^^^^
February 8th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
DMAC,
I’ll take one of these guys for TE Coach !!!
Danny Pearman (Clemson)
John Lilly (Georgia)
Matt Rhule (Temple)
Tom Osborne (Oregon)
February 8th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
giants run man primarily…
February 8th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
It won’t let me post the link, but I found a pic of him from last training camp.
He looks good for his age, but definately looks his age.
http://grizlr.com/oakland-raiders
February 8th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
40.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Al Saunders is 65 years old.
He ain’t calling plays, and standing on the sidelines for 4 hours.
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Well, Vegas, sometimes they sit in the box and call plays. Haven’t you heard?
Not that he’s probably calling plays, that’s going to be Knapp.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
WTF? You guys planning a track meet for the coaches?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Besides, he wont be on the sidelines anyways. He will be in the box consulting the offensive staff… do you think his mind is no longer sharp or a useful resource?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Get on our level!!
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Over/Under how many more wins the Giants have than A’s (including playoffs)
34.5
February 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Glad they worked something out for Saunders and the new regime. Sooooo Excited for 2012!!!
Havent been this geeked out about the Raiders in a long time.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
do you think his mind is no longer sharp or a useful resource?
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I agree with the coaching staff.
Useful during the week, and in spurts.
Save the games for the young men, who aren’t on Medicare.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Al Saunders is 65 years old.
He ain’t calling plays, and standing on the sidelines for 4 hours.
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Again with this?
The man is in better shape than you. Guaranteed.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
are we debating Al Saunders’ health?
LOL!
I don’t think JFB wants AS to pass away, just thinks theres a greater chance of that happening than him being primary play caller in Oakland
February 8th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Look at the NY Giants they run and Al Davis style defense and were successful at it the difference is they actually have the talent to do it and do it well.
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agreed. Their front four is much better than our front four for sure. Their backfield is not bad either. Plus they dont have Al Davis allowing them to do whatever they want.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Think Al Saunders outlives the Ryan Brothers?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
The man is in better shape than you. Guaranteed
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Again, he may be able to shuffle along the track for 4 hours.
I will slaughter him in hoops, anything baseball related, I am sure I can sprint way faster than him, hell I can dust off my JV wrestling tights and break his hip on the mat.
He may get me in golf because I suck
February 8th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Raider semi pro trivia:
Al Saunders drinks more prune juice than Gatoraide
True or False?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Think Al Saunders outlives the Ryan Brothers?
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@Dutch
you can fix fat, but you can’t fix old
-Dalai Lama
February 8th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
DMAC,
I’ll take one of these guys for TE Coach !!!
Danny Pearman (Clemson)
John Lilly (Georgia)
Matt Rhule (Temple)
Tom Osborne (Oregon)
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Don’t know 2 much about these dudes or got a chance to see those teams play w/ the exception of Oregon.
Stanford has been very successful using their TE’s.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Al Saunders is pi$$ed!
http://gridironfans.com/forums/attachments/latest-nfl-headlines/33396d1328144239-chiefs-interview-raiders-assistant-al-saunders-offensive-al-saunders.png
February 8th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Think Al Saunders outlives the Ryan Brothers?
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Good call. If those fat bastards can last all game, Saunders sure as heck can too.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Think Al Saunders outlives the Ryan Brothers?
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Good call. If those fat bastards can last all game, Saunders sure as heck can too.
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Don’t know about Rob. Rex will probably inhale a weird fungus from sniffing some skank’s feet sooner or later…
February 8th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Pleasant surprise that Al Saunders returns to Raiders. He’ll be a resource for blending Knapp’s version of WC system for downfield passing
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Bombs away!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Saunders should be calling the plays. The o was pretty effective last season. It will be pretty wierd for saunders with crap knapp coming in trying to tell him how to run an o. Let saunders do his thing. Knapp can go be the qb coach.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
RNS on FB:
Saunders will serve as Senior O Assistant. Will finish off 2nd yr of his contract it seems…Holland known for focused, violent 3-4 LBs but fired from Texans after D finishes 30th in D, 32nd against the pass…No clear designation for Burns. Theoretical that Woodson could be retained…last yr Kevin Ross taught Raider Safeties and Woodsen handled CBs.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Bombs away!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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re-sign #2 (JaCannon)
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Get on our level!!
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Over/Under how many more wins the Giants have than A’s (including playoffs)
34.5
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Rings my dude. Rings.
Like I said….
Get on our level!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
72. Jerry Mac rocks…
February 8th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
So…
Holland ran a 4-3 in Houston…
February 8th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Age don’t matter. Look at Tom Coughlin.
You gotta have the brains.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
This is excellent news. If Knapp falls on his face & doesn’t produce, we have a proven back-up plan. Hopefully, Saunders will help keep Palmer as a major contributor to the offense by maintaining the bomb at a moments notice.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
75.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Bombs away!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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re-sign #2 (JaCannon)
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Yeah, let’s relive that nightmare.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Check out the shot of Patsy fans on ESPN NFL’s home page. Home boy to the left looks blasted. lol
February 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
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February 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
“She just needs to continue to stay cute and shut up” – Brandon Jacobs on Gisele
February 8th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
84. She is cute…
February 8th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
that would hilarious…jasoup with crap knapps offense? Im gonna throw up…
February 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Holland known for focused, violent 3-4 LBs but fired from Texans after D finishes 30th in D, 32nd against the pass
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X,
Johnny Holland has only been coaching since 1995. He spent the last 6 years as Texans LB Coach
Does he get any credit for the play of Mario Williams,
Connor Barwin, Brian Cushing, Brooks Reed or DeMeco Ryans ???
http://www.thegoal.com/players/football/holland_johnny/holland_johnny.html
February 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Olinesux Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
that would hilarious…jasoup with crap knapps offense? Im gonna throw up…
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He might actually be ok. He is, after all, captain checkdown. What was hilarious was watching him try to connect on his deep throws in Hubert’s offense.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
if anybody can make a player out of McClain, I think it’s Johnny Holland …
February 8th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You people are crazy! Saunders health is a topic?!?!
LMAO
February 8th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
89.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
if anybody can make a player out of McClain, I think it’s Johnny Holland …
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Where are you getting this Holland to be linebackers coach?
The only place it’s mentioned is on twitter.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Al Saunders was retained so Carson Palmer can throw it DEEP … LOL
you guys crack me up. Thats exactly why Knapp is here instead. to make sure that doesn’t happen.
we’re going to run the football. play action pass. eliminate the penalties and turnovers.
I still predict Carson Palmer will surpass 3500 yards, 25 TD’s & a QB Rating of 85
February 8th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
im so sick of them talkin bout eli.. yukk!! shut us espn. any way, ya know, raider fans complain bot the chaos evry offseason but u wanted hue fired? .. well after this season u gonna want coach allen fired. so chaos it is!!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Where are you getting this Holland to be linebackers coach?
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England,
some semi pros are never wrong. DD & YA are among them
February 8th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
after this season u gonna want coach allen fired
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Dorian,
what makes you say that?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
ya wanna cut stanford routt and sign tracy porter ? yeah HUGE UPGRADE. REALLY ? i swear raider fans are gettin dumber
February 8th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
O,
hows your health?
LOL!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
what makes me say that ? lol.. u serious? u been alive for the last 10 years ? everybody wanted cable fired. everybody wanted hue fired after 1 season . now we got another rookie head coach, and after 8 games just come on this blog & see how many want him fired.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Main Entry: age·ism
Variant(s): also ag·ism \ˈā-(ˌ)ji-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1969
: prejudice or discrimination against a particular age-group and especially the elderly
— age·ist also ag·ist \-jist\ adjective
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You People are Ageists!!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
I think it’s safe to say the coaching staff has been “gutted”
Up next?
the roster …
February 8th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
101
February 8th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I’m a little overweight, but nothing my great bone structure can’t handle.
Raider O = BEAST
February 8th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
we got another rookie head coach, and after 8 games just come on this blog & see how many want him fired.
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Dorian,
I’ll be here. You ready to eat some crow?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Great to see the Raider coaching staff looking athletical. Should lend some credibility to their authority.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I’m big
I’m hairy
I’m God’s gift to women!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I’m a little overweight
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O,
yeah I look good, but i’m no Al Saunders
my wife had a baby 14 months ago and lost all of her baby weight without working out or dieting AT ALL – back to 110 lbs
whoop whoop!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
im so sick of them talkin bout eli.. yukk!! shut us espn
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Better than hearing them talk about Brady?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
im ready to eat sum coochie. but dude. , fans are idiots. these same guys wanted mcnabb. they believe we have a super bowl calibur team. now i believe any nfl team has talent enuff to win it all, thats why they in the league, their great, but these guys will not accept anything less than playoffs next season . or they will be hollering for allen firing .
February 8th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I’m big
I’m hairy
I’m God’s gift to women!
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you know Naomi Watts wanted a peice of King Kong
February 8th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Where are you getting this Holland to be linebackers coach?
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England,
some semi pros are never wrong.
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Yeah, and some of them think Al Davis is still alive and hanging out with Elvis.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
yeah I look good, but i’m no Al Saunders
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LMAO RR
February 8th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Looks like this is turning into a solid veteran offensive coaching staff, and a young hungry defensive coaching staff. Sounds about right.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Kick Rocks A’s!!!!!
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Naw they need a baseball only stadium in Oakland.
Warriors
A’s
Raiders
W A R fan out!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
fans are idiots. these same guys wanted mcnabb.
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Dorian,
you pointing the finger at JFB?
he predicted the Redskins would make the playoffs with Shanny & McNabb, LOL
I said many times “Jason Campbell > Donovan McNabb” and got clowned for it
February 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Yeah, and some of them think Al Davis is still alive and hanging out with Elvis.
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LOL
I love this place. You People are funny.
RR,
They all want a piece of the Beast.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
fans are idiots. these same guys wanted mcnabb.
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They also want their offensive coordinators to be triathletes.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
The new GM is preparing to launch the career of Terrell Pryor as the starting Raider QB. Keeping Saunders while bringing in Knapp, a West coast offense guy, only points to Pryor as the future, sooner rather than later.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
England,
some semi pros are never wrong.
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Yeah, and some of them think Al Davis is still alive and hanging out with Elvis.
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Google it.
Google is the business, folks.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Al Davis is still alive and hanging out with Elvis.
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I Wonder If Heaven Got a Ghetto
-Dalai Lama
February 8th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
t, but these guys will not accept anything less than playoffs next season . or they will be hollering for allen firing .___
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people know now that stability has come to the raiders. Allen is here at least 4 if not more seasons. There gonna build first. IMO
February 8th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Allen is here at least 4 if not more seasons. There gonna build first.
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Allen is here to witness the “gutting” by Reggie McKenzie.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
No RR. That was Tupac.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Any background info on keith Burns since he is our new DB coach
February 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Hmmm sunders retained/ demoted, very interesting. looks like Mr. stop gap palmer is on a one year try out, just as i predicted.
Keeping suanders as an assistant to the oc, means he can look over game plans and keep knapp up to speed on palmer’s strengths and weaknesses. This in effect removes excuses for palmer and accelerates the teams ability to evaluate him, as he doesnt have to adjust to a completely foreign offense and coach. he will also be able to infuse some vertical game to knapps dink and dunk catch and run offense.
Notice suanders was not extended, simply allowed to saty on in a consultant film room/ meeting room role. If palmer flops suanders will be gone along with palmer in 2013.
This move allows carson the best opportunity to succeed. Carson will need to produce this season or we will be drafting a qb that fits the mold that knapp needs to truly run his offense.
Smart move on the part of big mack and the boys
February 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Looks like this is turning into a solid veteran offensive coaching staff, and a young hungry defensive coaching staff. Sounds about right.
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Solid!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Any background info on keith Burns since he is our new DB coach
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Google is your friend, people.
Burns was DC for USC before Carrol took over and put together some good units. Also with razorbacks prior to that. With Ole Miss until now.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
If you are delusional enough to think Saunders administered the game plan and not Hue Jack you probably believe in the tooth fairy as well.
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DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I think this was the best move so far. We shouldnt see alot of drop off from last year game plan.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Terrelle Pryor – Oakland Raider QB
Really?????
Several reports from guys on here who have watched all of his televised games SWEAR he can’t throw the ball on an NFL level.
Do we really want Tebowesque play at QB for 3/4 of the game?
WC offense for Pryor????
If we do go that route, Pryor needs to be in the damn shotgun, not under center.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Mistic, Saunders was extended.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
lol ya all pumped up bout the coaching staff.. i feel ya. its important. hope we can get pumped up bout our roster. but more importantly . im just hoping reggie MC doesnt screw up my madden team. i mean, im gonna play with the raiders no matter what .. but i know hes not gonna draft the fastest guys like al did:(
February 8th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
i may have to really learn how to run offense on the game now:(
February 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
CP’s gonna put on a show, just like he did several times last year.
Mistic, what did CP do in our season finale? Dude was lights out.
Hopefully this year, he won’t have a defense that can’t force a punt the entire game and you will have nothing to cry about.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Doriangray Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
lol ya all pumped up bout the coaching staff.. i feel ya. its important. hope we can get pumped up bout our roster. but more importantly . im just hoping reggie MC doesnt screw up my madden team. i mean, im gonna play with the raiders no matter what .. but i know hes not gonna draft the fastest guys like al did:(
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You got your priorities straight. #Sarcasm
February 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
didnt terrel pryor only play 2 seasons ? and the games i saw he kept getting better . and his passes have more velocity than tebow`s . of course its hard for a basketball player like him to learn to be a pocket q.b. but hes faster than vick & newton and bigger than tebow. such an athlete. gotta be space for sumbody that special .
February 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
With Allen here they CSM rebuild a strong defense that can match the play an intensity of our offense. Thus putting us in a position to control an win games from either side of the ball. This is a good move by the GM an coach Allen.
Nice gameplan guys!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Terrelle Pryor – Oakland Raider QB
Really?????
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Jhill,
the ZBS/WCO suits TP very well. So does having having Carson Palmer as a starting QB to serve as mentor.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Palmer will be the QB here for AT LEAST the next 3 years or so.
Not going to stress over Pryor. Maybe he can develop his passing skills during that time.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Pryor should do well in a green bay style WCO
ala Aaron Rodgers
February 8th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Before You People talk about TP you should watch him play.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
TP takes over for CP in 2 years.
Holla!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Sorry guys post 135 the “CSM” should be “Can”.
Typo my badd.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Where is the fast-forward button? Nine months until we see what we’ve got. I could drink myself to death by that time.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
They said the same thing about Cam Newton. Palmer is too immobile for the west coast offense? If not Pryor then why bring in Knapp???
February 8th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Rodgers is in the shotgun alot.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
syracuse and georgetown gonna be a game! 2 real tough teams. sum great teams this season. hopefully kentucky wins it all tho ..
February 8th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
CP’s gonna put on a show, just like he did several times last year.
Mistic, what did CP do in our season finale? Dude was lights out.
Hopefully this year, he won’t have a defense that can’t force a punt the entire game and you will have nothing to cry about.
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cry? arent we all upset that the team flopped down the stretch?
Lights out?!?!? He had 2 passes hit chargers in the chest in the first half, and the game ended with a pick? I dont think you would say that was lights out if it were any other qb on our roster.
Saunders was extended? i thought he was signed to a two year deal last season and he is only under contract for this year.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Mystic1, you’re making some sense. I think the whole next season will be an evaluation process, and I think you will see a lot of transactions, not major ones necessarily, to get as many under-the-radar guys who can play. Carrol’s first year with the Seahawks went the same way; he and his GM made several hundred moves. And he got a few hits.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Me too Twocents!!!!
Tequilla!!!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
r8dercain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Rodgers is in the shotgun alot.
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NO to the shotgun!
Romac might go Pvt. Pyle on Allen.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
im the only person in memphis that supports coach cal. go kentucky . oh and a iam a negro so shut up be4 ya start
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February 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MKTm-49uI&ob=av2n
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enjoy the best band alive
February 8th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
TP’s accuracy isn’t the problem, it’s his throwing motion.
6′6, 240, runs a sub 4.4 40, and has a strong arm that can make every throw in the NFL.
He was a 3rd pick, so let’s see what he can do before call him a bust. If he cant play QB (I’m sure he can), then I would find him a new position.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Twocents Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Where is the fast-forward button? Nine months until we see what we’ve got. I could drink myself to death by that time.
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must be drunk already. Sept. Is in seven months.
Not to mention July in five mos. When camps open around the league.
Lay off the lager man
February 8th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
3rd RD pick….
February 8th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Raider O Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
3rd RD pick….
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O Dog,
I think you need to put them fat ass fingers on a diet
lol
February 8th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Yo yo yo, my duece went great! Also was fortunate to pop out a few lyrics as well.
This’ll probably be the opening verse to the Beeech Dawg Lifestyle Collection theme song, probably sung by Beyonce or, if there are budget restrictions, Cindy Lauper -
If I were a dude, I’d get an erection
Over Beeech Diggity Dawg’s Lifestyle Collection
Yo his fragrances and fashions totally rock
Now excuse me while I go lick Jay Z’s c*$@
(the last word is a slang term for a weiner)
February 8th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Is there any way to filter the post on this blog?
It would be nice to only view credible analysis instead of the 98% BS stupidity that goes on in here..
New Day
Go Raiders
February 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Palmer will be the QB here for AT LEAST the next 3 years or so
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Jhill,
I agree. Palmer is a FA in 2015 and I think he’ll ride off into the sunset at that time. He’s already made it abundantly clear that he’s not hurting for money
Pryor = 2015 starting QB
February 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
John Calipari = great Italian
Not like that fraud Pitino!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
O Dog,
I think you need to put them fat ass fingers on a diet
lol
$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
I blame the iPhone.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
He had 2 passes hit chargers in the chest in the first half,
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LMAO at Mistic1’s weird fascination with “dropped” INT’s.
Teams drop INT’s, all the time, every game, every week.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Raider O Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
O Dog,
I think you need to put them fat ass fingers on a diet
lol
$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
I blame the iPhone.
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Someones got to take the blame.
Damn you phone.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Richard Bentley Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Mystic1, you’re making some sense. I think the whole next season will be an evaluation process, and I think you will see a lot of transactions, not major ones necessarily, to get as many under-the-radar guys who can play. Carrol’s first year with the Seahawks went the same way; he and his GM made several hundred moves. And he got a few hits.
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That is all that i am saying here. many raider fans are unfamiliar with the process, because the late uncle al would often over ride coaches on personnel matters, and tell the coach to fit the players in the the coaches system. We are now in a time that the coaches will have latitude to pick the guys they want and discard the ones they do not.
This process usually entails keeping guys with big contracts and guys that may be able to adapt to a new system in an unofficial one year try out.
This is quite common in the nfl when ever there is a regime change, and palmer is only one of the players on our team that is suddenly in this position.
Credit to the raiders keeping on suanders in an effort to try and get something positive out of palmer, based on what we gave up to get him and the money we are on the hook for.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Yes an “ignore” button would be extremely useful ’round here…
February 8th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Why do people come here and complain about US semi’s. If you don’t like it, why even post or show up?
I just don’t get it.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
credible analysis by whom bloodraider ? guys in their draws? are any of us nfl insiders ? are we sportswriters? credible ya azz…
February 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Glad to see DeFilippo back. He did a great job with Jamarcus when he was here.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
He had 2 passes hit chargers in the chest in the first half,
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LMAO at Mistic1’s weird fascination with “dropped” INT’s.
Teams drop INT’s, all the time, every game, every week.
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LMAO…maybe he’s saying the QB’s so bad, even the other team don’t catch his throws
February 8th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Got’s to complain about sumptin’ DMAC. It’s Feb, nothing real to talk about….
February 8th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
He had 2 passes hit chargers in the chest in the first half,
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LMAO at Mistic1’s weird fascination with “dropped” INT’s.
Teams drop INT’s, all the time, every game, every week.
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just because they were dropped doesnt and shouldnt absolve the qb of a poor read or throw, and is part of the evaluation process.
Just as a boxer that makes a mistake in a fight and still wins shouldnt be satisfied with the victory. Instead he needs to correct the flaws or eventually they will get you beat.
If you dont think coaches count dropped picks im afraid you dont know football
February 8th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Lefty12 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Glad to see DeFilippo back. He did a great job with Jamarcus when he was here.
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Yep….great to see Sanchez’ progress also as well as Andrew Walter….
February 8th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Mistic, I am with you. Cut Palmer and make Pryor the #1 QB.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
…He was moving up in the world…in high demand at San Jose State….
February 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
u tell em dmac!! we are raider fans. we are the blog .. WE ARE BLOG!! WE ARE BLOG!! u ever been to another raider blog ? the writer posts like 30 posts in a row with 0 comments.. he may get 2 comments on a post . this is it dude. so go be a seahawk fan.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Hmmm sunders retained/ demoted, very interesting. looks like Mr. stop gap palmer is on a one year try out, just as i predicted.
Keeping suanders as an assistant to the oc, means he can look over game plans and keep knapp up to speed on palmer’s strengths and weaknesses. This in effect removes excuses for palmer and accelerates the teams ability to evaluate him, as he doesnt have to adjust to a completely foreign offense and coach. he will also be able to infuse some vertical game to knapps dink and dunk catch and run offense.
Notice suanders was not extended, simply allowed to saty on in a consultant film room/ meeting room role. If palmer flops suanders will be gone along with palmer in 2013.
This move allows carson the best opportunity to succeed. Carson will need to produce this season or we will be drafting a qb that fits the mold that knapp needs to truly run his offense.
Smart move on the part of big mack and the boys
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“Saunders will serve as a senior offensive assistant and is under contract through 2013″. Not sure whether that means the 2012 or the 2012 & 2013 season.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Yeah, but you only count “Dropped” INT’s when it pertains to Bruce Gradkowski and CP, and you talk about it constantly.
Yet, somehow, Soup was above this “evaluation process”.
Or maybe McKenzie did it include it in his evaluation, hence the reason Soup won’t be offered a cab ride to the airport out of town.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Whats wrong with shotgun offense? elway, brees, brady, manning, Rodgers, newton all have made it work
February 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
lol @ the ‘ credible analysis of the bloggers in here . epic .
February 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Sanchez’s progress???
Wasn’t Sanchez at his best when Defillipo was his QB coach?
Regressed when he left, right?
February 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Lefty12 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Mistic, I am with you. Cut Palmer and make Pryor the #1 QB.
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I’m sure someone creative could build an offense around Pryor like Denver tried to do around schmuckhead…but, running a “normal” offense we haven’t seen anything from him yet.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Seems like an awful lot of cooks in the offensive kitchen. What exactly is a senior offensive assistant? I hope there is no clash of egos.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
J Hill Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Sanchez’s progress???
Wasn’t Sanchez at his best when Defillipo was his QB coach?
Regressed when he left, right?
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You mean when he was “assitant QB coach”?
February 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Cut Palmer? Unless Reggie can recover what we lost on it…
But yeah…cut Palmer, resign JC, and elevate Pryor!
Boller better be somewhere in the FN Bermuda Triangle by now…and Palmer is bad?
February 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
doriangray Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
u tell em dmac!! we are raider fans. we are the blog .. WE ARE BLOG!! WE ARE BLOG!! u ever been to another raider blog ? the writer posts like 30 posts in a row with 0 comments.. he may get 2 comments on a post . this is it dude. so go be a seahawk fan.
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Thats what I’m saying.
WE ARE THE GREATEST BLOG!
lol
February 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
What exactly is a senior offensive assistant?
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A pre-retirement demotion.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Yeah, but you only count “Dropped” INT’s when it pertains to Bruce Gradkowski and CP, and you talk about it constantly.
Yet, somehow, Soup was above this “evaluation process”.
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No jfb,
Campbell had very few dropped ints, and very few ints period. palmer and grads seemed to have at least 2-3 lucky breaks a game. in fact i think palmer is an even bigger offender than grads, in that depratment
February 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
…and when you say “Sanchez’s best”….he was at his best before Santonio Holmes came along LOL
February 8th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Glad to see DeFilippo back. He did a great job with Jamarcus when he was here.
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Lefty,
who else could have milked 9 wins out of Al’s pet walrus?
Knapp + DeFilippo = coaches of the decade!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
The pluspoint on Palmer is if you looked at his rating on throws over 20+ yards it had one of the highest completion rates and most completed out of any QB in the NFL (at least I remember seeing that around game 14 or so).
February 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Mistic,
I want Sanchez as our QB. He’s Mexican American and so am I.
lol
February 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Campbell had very few dropped ints, and very few ints period
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And very few wins post Thanksgiving.
Like a handful for his career.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Wow…the experts we have in here LOL!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Asst QB coach????
Were you attributing Sanchez’s “progress” to an Asst QB coach?
February 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Campbell had very few dropped ints, and very few ints period
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And very few wins post Thanksgiving.
Like a handful for his career.
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that has zero bearing on what i posted jfb, next time dont bother commenting if you dont have the ammo
February 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Speaking of Gardowski ….
I wonder if he’d be interested in coming back as the #3 QB?
February 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I gotta run ya’ll.
Keep the best blog in the world going ya’ll.
Peace!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Campbell (although I didn’t think too highly of him when watching him play) would probably fit perfectly in the Knapp conservative check down offense.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
that has zero bearing on what i posted jfb, next time dont bother commenting if you dont have the ammo
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Zero bearing?
Soup doesn’t take chances, so thus, he doesn’t win in moneytime, end of the season moments. Get it?
The only team he ever played for that finished over .500, he got hurt and the team went 4-0 without him to end the year.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Boller better be somewhere in the FN Bermuda Triangle by now
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LOL @ Hwnrdr.
Like Hue Jackson, Mr Prejean is about to take his talents to a whole new level. UFL, CFL or IFL!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
DMAC Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Mistic,
I want Sanchez as our QB. He’s Mexican American and so am I.
lol
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i dont see why posting that i see palmer being on a one year try out turns into a race issue with you.
Dmac you tucked tail yesterday, so i will ask you again.
Why is race only an issue with you and others when it comes to qb? No one brings up race if i talk about any other position, only qb? Do non white qb’s really make you that uncomfortable?
Evolve troglodyte
February 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
What exactly is a senior offensive assistant?
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A pre-retirement demotion.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
JFB,
Thanks, as a Senior Financial Analyst, I was looking for a reason to retire. You gave me a good excuse to point to as a valid reason to leave.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I don’t understand the problem with a “check down”.
TE, RBs, and underneath routes are solid 1st down chain moving options.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Look guys, Palmer and Campbell are 2 different types of QB’s! One’s a gunslinger and one is a game manager! That DOES NOT make one or the other better!!!
Also, didn’t someone post in here that Palmer and Manning (Peyton) during the same 2 year period had teh same number of interceptions? Does that mean Campbell is better than Manning? No, it doesn’t…
So come on guys…stop this beating the dead horse already! i would love JC to come back, and I thank him for getting “our” team back to respectability…but with or without him, we have to move on!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
The calls for Terrell Pryor to start at QB in 2012 are hilarious. Great work, guys. Keep it coming. Funny s***.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Whether or not CP3 has a good year, we need to develop a QB for the future.
We will know whether or not Pryor is “that guy” by seeing if Reggie and DA draft a QB In the next 2 years.
Belicheck drafted Brady
McCarthy wanted Rodgers
Peyton brought in Brees
CP3 and Pryor were not handpicked by Reggie so we will know soon enough what Reggie thinks about them.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Do non white qb’s really make you that uncomfortable?
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Your the one who is most “uncomfortable” with non-white QB’s.
Probably pretty hard for you to sit down in jeans during Panthers games I bet.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RaidO Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Saunders should be calling the plays.
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He probably will be to some extent. It was a suggestion I had last year when Jackson became predictable in the 2nd halves of games. By changing up the people making the actual calls it certainly puts some randomness into the equation.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
that has zero bearing on what i posted jfb, next time dont bother commenting if you dont have the ammo
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Zero bearing?
Soup doesn’t take chances, so thus, he doesn’t win in moneytime, end of the season moments. Get it?
The only team he ever played for that finished over .500, he got hurt and the team went 4-0 without him to end the year.
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zero bearing, my comment was about palmer and his one year try out stop gap status.
Since you brought it up though answer this,
last 19 starts, apples to apples
jc 12-7 10 ints,
palmer, 6-13 30 ints 8 returned for tds
I prefer the guy “that doesnt take chances” as you put it, or is smart with the ball is the way I would frame it. Being smart with the ball does win in “moneytime” more often then the guy that is wreckless, hence the records over their last 19 starts
February 8th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
well , now white qbs make me very uncomfortable. they all suck. cant read defenses. and who like white runnin backs dude? or white corners ? or black kickers ? or chinese basketball players ?
February 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
cry? arent we all upset that the team flopped down the stretch?
Lights out?!?!? He had 2 passes hit chargers in the chest in the first half, and the game ended with a pick? I dont think you would say that was lights out if it were any other qb on our roster.
Saunders was extended? i thought he was signed to a two year deal last season and he is only under contract for this year.
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That INT is on Ford.
And again, with all these “almost INTs.”
Shoulda, coulda, woulda, didn’t.
How many “almost INTs” did Jason throw? And you NEVER will call him out for it.
CP was lighting the Chargers up.
A halfway capable D has us in the playoffs after that game.
We’re set at QB.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Look guys, Palmer and Campbell are 2 different types of QB’s! One’s a gunslinger and one is a game manager! That DOES NOT make one or the other better!!!
Also, didn’t someone post in here that Palmer and Manning (Peyton) during the same 2 year period had teh same number of interceptions? Does that mean Campbell is better than Manning? No, it doesn’t…
So come on guys…stop this beating the dead horse already! i would love JC to come back, and I thank him for getting “our” team back to respectability…but with or without him, we have to move on!!!
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never fails i post on palmer and blog idiots bring up jc.
Of course i post on the qb ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION ON THE TEAM!!!
When its good i will say so when it isnt i will do the same, just as i have since joining the board
February 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Mistic,
You make me smile. You really know how to tweak some soules in here with your comments. You’re like my best friend, continues to drive home a point, without gashing anybody’s ego.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
The first off-season after the passing of Al. There is a long time until the season starts. With no draft picks, should be a slow off-season.
Unless speculating on who the next LB coach will be is news worthy.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
J Hill Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I don’t understand the problem with a “check down”.
TE, RBs, and underneath routes are solid 1st down chain moving options.
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I think the issue is checking down for 5 on 3rd and 15.
The case can be made for why that’s a good idea, but we’re not talking checking down for 1st downs.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
UNRELATED: Popped a bottle of Champagne after work to celebrate University of Memphis joining the Big East. Cheers Nation!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Whoever is still talking about JC, must be someone who is still talking about the semi-fat chick that almost gave them a BJ.
C’mon people, get behind Carson, he is the most talented QB we have had since Gannon. We ALL want him to succeed. I would love to see him play for the next 3 years.
Get behind this team!!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
When its good i will say so when it isnt i will do the same, just as i have since joining the board
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So a few games in, if/when Palmer is playing well, you will be M.I.A.
Got it.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
cry? arent we all upset that the team flopped down the stretch?
Lights out?!?!? He had 2 passes hit chargers in the chest in the first half, and the game ended with a pick? I dont think you would say that was lights out if it were any other qb on our roster.
Saunders was extended? i thought he was signed to a two year deal last season and he is only under contract for this year.
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That INT is on Ford.
And again, with all these “almost INTs.”
Shoulda, coulda, woulda, didn’t.
How many “almost INTs” did Jason throw? And you NEVER will call him out for it.
CP was lighting the Chargers up.
A halfway capable D has us in the playoffs after that game.
We’re set at QB.
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wrong
The fact is jc didnt have many dropped ints, that is why i didnt have to comment. i wouldnt comment on other qbs dropped ints if they didnt throw so many picks.
Palmer and grads both have more picks than tds in raider uniforms, therefore the dropped ints are alarming, because it means the qb is playing bad football. An occasional dropped int isnt a bad thing when the qb has more tds than picks.
Stop trying to tell me what i do and dont do. if jc turned ove the ball as often as these others i would harp on drop picks the same as i did when brooks russel and pep were here. Fact is he didnt, so i didnt have to
February 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I think we all can quit complaining about Palmer. HueJax did what he had to do. He hit the panic button and really not a bad result. It was Palmer who gave us some exitement, while Boller would of had us who watch TV cause we’re far away, tossing the TV sets out the window.
The culprit of the whole mess was cutting Gradkowski. Keep him as #2 and we never aquire Palmer.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The fact is jc didnt have many dropped ints, that is why i didnt have to comment. i wouldnt comment on other qbs dropped ints if they didnt throw so many picks.
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Wrong.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Popped a bottle of Champagne after work to celebrate University of Memphis joining the Big East. Cheers Nation!
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how about popping another bottle to celebrate the Raiders re-joining the AFC West !?!?!?
thanks Reggie & Dennis
February 8th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
J Hill Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I don’t understand the problem with a “check down”.
TE, RBs, and underneath routes are solid 1st down chain moving options.
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If they move the chains. Most times they don’t. When you are at a 3rd and 9 and you check down to the back for a gain of five, that’s the problem. We have been talking in here about stats for the last few days and my point is baseball is a fantastic stat game, because essentially everyone is matched up one on one. Football is not that way so stats are not quite as reliable.
But one statistic I do like is a QB’s yards per attempt. To me, that weeds out the “check down” Q’s even more so than QB rating. A Q could go into a game and complete pass after pass to his back and look great on paper, say, 14 for 15 for 55 yards, but he is really not getting the job done.
At the top of the yards per attempt this last year: Rodgers, Brady, Schaub, Eli, Carson. Next is Brees. This is one reason I keep saying Palmer is an elite Q. At the bottom of the list? Sanchez, Tebow, Bradford, Painter, McCoy, Gabbert. Pretty telling stat if you asked me.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
When its good i will say so when it isnt i will do the same, just as i have since joining the board
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So a few games in, if/when Palmer is playing well, you will be M.I.A.
Got it.
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you are full of shid
Im not going to apologize for calling out a qb when he plays poorly. I will not apologize for predicting a qb to play well, then hammering you clowns that said he wouldnt.
That is the issue that you and others really have with me, no matter how you dress it up.
You and other wanted a grads i said he was terrible it proved true.
You and others didnt like jc and predicted failure, i told you he would do well and win and he did.
You and others hailed palmer as the next elite raider qb, i said it wasnt so, and it hasnt been.
This is why you have a problem, but that is indeed your problem
February 8th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RaidO Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Saunders should be calling the plays.
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He probably will be to some extent. It was a suggestion I had last year when Jackson became predictable in the 2nd halves of games. By changing up the people making the actual calls it certainly puts some randomness into the equation.
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Is this the same Hue Jackson, who is still not employed by 31 other teams. According to some in here, he is mana from GOD and a better Offensive mind than, let’s say Bill Walsh. Oh by the way we didn’t score in the fourth quarter for like 7 games in a row, that’s not predictable, it’s a catastrophe.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Peymour the cross posting clown,
Knapp is the OC so he will be calling plays. Do you think this is Pop Warner football where everybody gets a turn to be in charge for a day?
#numnuts
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Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RaidO Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Saunders should be calling the plays.
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He probably will be to some extent.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
I got really drunk last night and almost made out with a tranny. I aint drinking that much ever again.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
WTF?
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Lefty12 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
I got really drunk last night and almost made out with a tranny. I aint drinking that much ever again.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Lefty12,
I thought you swore off drinking adult beverages.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
cry? arent we all upset that the team flopped down the stretch?
Lights out?!?!? He had 2 passes hit chargers in the chest in the first half, and the game ended with a pick? I dont think you would say that was lights out if it were any other qb on our roster.
Saunders was extended? i thought he was signed to a two year deal last season and he is only under contract for this year.
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That INT is on Ford.
And again, with all these “almost INTs.”
Shoulda, coulda, woulda, didn’t.
How many “almost INTs” did Jason throw? And you NEVER will call him out for it.
CP was lighting the Chargers up.
A halfway capable D has us in the playoffs after that game.
We’re set at QB.
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Have to agree with LA on this one. The last TD of the season was an absolute LASER thru two defenders. There is absolutely NO WAY Campbell could EVER make that throw. Again, we get a stop, Palmer is going to win that game. I don’t know if I can say the same thing about Campbell in an identical situation.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
damc and jfb….crickets LMAO!!!!
thanks for playing, we have some lovely consolation prizes for you back stage
February 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
228.MistaBrown Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
WTF?
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Lefty12 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
I got really drunk last night and almost made out with a tranny. I aint drinking that much ever again.
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You and Sully go to the same bar?
February 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Peymour the cross posting clown,
Knapp is the OC so he will be calling plays. Do you think this is Pop Warner football where everybody gets a turn to be in charge for a day?
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JAMISTA!!!! Wrong as usual. Teams do change playcallers. Look at the most prolific offense in the league New Orleans: Payton did it, Carmichael did it. Did you realize that your boy Newt got not one vote in some of the most recent contests? Kind of like you on this blog.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
PeymourGlenn, maybe the water boy will call def alignments for a quarter seein how everybody gets a wack at calling plays!
February 8th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Hmmm sunders retained/ demoted, very interesting. looks like Mr. stop gap palmer is on a one year try out, just as i predicted.
Keeping suanders as an assistant to the oc, means he can look over game plans and keep knapp up to speed on palmer’s strengths and weaknesses. This in effect removes excuses for palmer and accelerates the teams ability to evaluate him, as he doesnt have to adjust to a completely foreign offense and coach. he will also be able to infuse some vertical game to knapps dink and dunk catch and run offense.
Notice suanders was not extended, simply allowed to saty on in a consultant film room/ meeting room role. If palmer flops suanders will be gone along with palmer in 2013.
This move allows carson the best opportunity to succeed. Carson will need to produce this season or we will be drafting a qb that fits the mold that knapp needs to truly run his offense.
Smart move on the part of big mack and the boys
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Saunders was extenden through 2013
February 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Have to agree with LA on this one. The last TD of the season was an absolute LASER thru two defenders. There is absolutely NO WAY Campbell could EVER make that throw. Again, we get a stop, Palmer is going to win that game. I don’t know if I can say the same thing about Campbell in an identical situation.
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Your specualtion on which qb can make a throw and which qb couldnt has absolutely nothing to do with my post.
This cant be quantified or proven and falls into the category of worthless opinion.
Bottom line is palmer is in a one year try out, and better perform or we will lose and be drafting a qb in 2013.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
87.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Holland known for focused, violent 3-4 LBs but fired from Texans after D finishes 30th in D, 32nd against the pass
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X,
Johnny Holland has only been coaching since 1995. He spent the last 6 years as Texans LB Coach
Does he get any credit for the play of Mario Williams,
Connor Barwin, Brian Cushing, Brooks Reed or DeMeco Ryans ???
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Holland ran a 4-3 with Houston. They were a 3-4 under Capers, finished 30th under Holland and the 4-3. Swtiching back to 3-4 now that hes gone…
February 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
PeymourGlenn the cross psoting imbecile,
There you go talking politics again when you get embarrassed by your football comments.
Did you realize Newt wasn’t on the ballot hence his “not one vote” ? You dumb POS, did you know there were no Delegates in those primaries hence the reason Newt wasn’t on the ballot.
#dumb as a rock
February 8th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Jamista Other than the fact that your boy Colt McCoy is at the bottom of the stat list I posted. And your boy Newt didn’t get one vote. Man, you sure know how to pick ‘em. have YOU ever picked up a tranny at a bar? Seems like your style. And it would explain some of your emotional bitterness.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Since you brought it up though answer this,
last 19 starts, apples to apples
jc 12-7 10 ints,
palmer, 6-13 30 ints 8 returned for tds
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How about 2009? Is that apples to apples?
February 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Raider O Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Before You People talk about TP you should watch him play.
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Agreed…also need to wait and see what he can do at this level… They guys who claim he can’t play at this level have no idea what another Man is capable of…
TP will be a surprise to the NATION…
February 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Have to agree with LA on this one. The last TD of the season was an absolute LASER thru two defenders. There is absolutely NO WAY Campbell could EVER make that throw. Again, we get a stop, Palmer is going to win that game. I don’t know if I can say the same thing about Campbell in an identical situation.
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Your specualtion on which qb can make a throw and which qb couldnt has absolutely nothing to do with my post.
This cant be quantified or proven and falls into the category of worthless opinion.
Bottom line is palmer is in a one year try out, and better perform or we will lose and be drafting a qb in 2013.
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Of course you can determine which Q can make throws based on visual observation. It’s called arm strength. Rodgers, Brady, Palmer are not only all strong armed but very accurate. Brees is extremely accuarate. Tebow, not that strong armed and not that accurate. don’t need a pro scouting report to make that assessment.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I said it last season with all the JC hate, and I’ll say it again to everyone wasting their time hating on Carson Palmer.
There are no better options available to the Raiders. Palmer is the QB. He’s going to be the QB in 2012. That’s it. Sorry to break it to y’all, but sooner or later you’re going to have to stop crying all the damn time.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Peymour, you are in here talking about Colt McCoy & Newt Gingrich?
lmfao
Dude…get a grip on yourself.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Raider Blood
Here’s some credible analysis from the blog – You’re an idiot
Guys in their drawers … DG, now that is FUNNY and your boy Beeech Dawg knows funny
February 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Peymour = Mental FK’ng retard.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I have no idea what Pryor is capable of. But because Al picked him, I have doubts.
Al always seemed to pick the wrong guy.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Seymour, this was good stuff.
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“At the top of the yards per attempt this last year: Rodgers, Brady, Schaub, Eli, Carson. Next is Brees. This is one reason I keep saying Palmer is an elite Q. At the bottom of the list? Sanchez, Tebow, Bradford, Painter, McCoy, Gabbert. Pretty telling stat if you asked me.”
February 8th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Since you brought it up though answer this,
last 19 starts, apples to apples
jc 12-7 10 ints,
palmer, 6-13 30 ints 8 returned for tds
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How about 2009? Is that apples to apples?
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sure, however the recent history is far more relevant, the trends are going in two completely different directions.
Honestly though i think you and others should drop the grudge. I called it right on a few things, I have been wrong on others, as we all have. Whats the big deal?
Palmer is the qb 9 for the moment), so any comment i make on him shouldnt invite discussion on a guy that isnt
February 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Peymour = Mental FK’ng retard.
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Hahaha. You ARE a tranny aren’t you Jamista. It explains a lot.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Peymour, before you came in here and sh!tted out your mouth why didn’t you spend 30 seconds investigating why Newt didn’t get a single vote? It’s called Google, use it. Save yourself some embarrassment, if that’s even possible.
You dumb lunatic POS.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Have to agree with LA on this one. The last TD of the season was an absolute LASER thru two defenders. There is absolutely NO WAY Campbell could EVER make that throw. Again, we get a stop, Palmer is going to win that game. I don’t know if I can say the same thing about Campbell in an identical situation.
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Your specualtion on which qb can make a throw and which qb couldnt has absolutely nothing to do with my post.
This cant be quantified or proven and falls into the category of worthless opinion.
Bottom line is palmer is in a one year try out, and better perform or we will lose and be drafting a qb in 2013.
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Of course you can determine which Q can make throws based on visual observation. It’s called arm strength. Rodgers, Brady, Palmer are not only all strong armed but very accurate. Brees is extremely accuarate. Tebow, not that strong armed and not that accurate. don’t need a pro scouting report to make that assessment.
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I hear you but there is a major flaw in your analogy.
Brees, brady, rodgers even tebow through far less picks.
16 picks plus 14 dropped picks in 9 games isnt very good, no matter how strong your arm is.
i dont see why anyone would want a qb that does that
February 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Did you realize Newt wasn’t on the ballot hence his “not one vote” ?
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If I was running for President of the United States or even supporting someone who was running for President of the US, I would at least want that person to be on the ballot. And you call others an imbecile?
February 8th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
And what’s with the 19 starts?
How about this one:
Palmer November record 16-12 (best months win %), Soup 5-11 (Worst month win %)
Palmer December record 13-14 (3rd best month win %), Soup 6-13 (2nd worst month win %)
Basically, Soup plays his worst football when it matters most, and his best when it matters least, and Palmer is the opposite.
FACT!!
February 8th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
There were no delegates in those primaries like I told you earlier. You must not know what delegates are or what they do. Who ties your shoes for you?
Yes I said you are a imbecile.
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Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
If I was running for President of the United States or even supporting someone who was running for President of the US, I would at least want that person to be on the ballot. And you call others an imbecile?
February 8th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Whats the big deal?
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Palmer is going to be a great Raider QB, and not a “Stop-gap”.
I guess there is no sense going around and around on it, you will get your medicine eventually.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I said it last season with all the JC hate, and I’ll say it again to everyone wasting their time hating on Carson Palmer.
There are no better options available to the Raiders. Palmer is the QB. He’s going to be the QB in 2012. That’s it. Sorry to break it to y’all, but sooner or later you’re going to have to stop crying all the damn time.
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YA,
I posted that palmer has been placed on a one year try out, and suanders being retained is a move that gives carson the best chance to succeed. It also helps speed up the evaluation process for carson going into 2013.
Suddenly the usal suspects start hitting me over the head with jc.
I think it is reflex, but you are right. At this point it makes far more sense to talk about palmer, pryor, free agents and the 2013 draft class, then it does to bring up jc.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
You can’t make an apples for apples comparison:
JC played almost 2 full seasons under Hues offense, had an offseason , and most importantly played whenDMAC produced his best stats from all of 2010 and the first 6 games of 2011.
Palmer, off the couch, put into a game he shouldn’t have, no offseason, his WR’s hurt every week, a defense that he knew sucked, AND most importantly he has NOT played one down with DMAC.
Even with all that non-sense all we had to do is make one flicking defensive stop and no one is talking about this.
CP3> soup.
It’s not even close……
February 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Brees, brady, rodgers even tebow through far less picks.
16 picks plus 14 dropped picks in 9 games isnt very good, no matter how strong your arm is.
i dont see why anyone would want a qb that does that
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Turnovers are the number one reason between wins and losses. So I agree with you. With regards to Q’s sometimes they are the Q’s fault, sometimes they aren’t. I am thinking of the game last year in San Diego where their OLB crunches Palmer late in the game and the ball flutters and gets picked. Is that Palmer’s fault? Probably not. I think you are going to see Saunders/Knapp/DeFillipo make a concerted effort on cutting down the number of picks Palmer throws next season.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
It’s OK Jamista, just keep on supporting some guy who isn’t even on the ballot. Some how it will all work out. (For the rest of us, thank God.)
February 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
And what’s with the 19 starts?
How about this one:
Palmer November record 16-12 (best months win %), Soup 5-11 (Worst month win %)
Palmer December record 13-14 (3rd best month win %), Soup 6-13 (2nd worst month win %)
Basically, Soup plays his worst football when it matters most, and his best when it matters least, and Palmer is the opposite.
FACT!!
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interesting but, im not sure why you insist on comparison when ione guy isnt even here.
I mention palmer and you say jc, its tired.
i looked at the last 19 starts because it is the most recent fair sample size and it takes into account what jc did here as a raider( pretty solid work)
Cant you just be grateful for the the good football jc played and let it go?
February 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Of course you can determine which Q can make throws based on visual observation. It’s called arm strength.
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That’s why you hung on Jamarcus sac all that time? Because he had a strong arm, he must be able to make the throws?
You’re a tad bit loopy, aren’t you?
February 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Brees, brady, rodgers even tebow through far less picks.
16 picks plus 14 dropped picks in 9 games isnt very good, no matter how strong your arm is.
i dont see why anyone would want a qb that does that
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Turnovers are the number one reason between wins and losses. So I agree with you. With regards to Q’s sometimes they are the Q’s fault, sometimes they aren’t. I am thinking of the game last year in San Diego where their OLB crunches Palmer late in the game and the ball flutters and gets picked. Is that Palmer’s fault? Probably not. I think you are going to see Saunders/Knapp/DeFillipo make a concerted effort on cutting down the number of picks Palmer throws next season.
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100% agreed
this is why i said it was a smart move to bring back saunders, to give palmer a chance. i did not think he had any shot to succeed with knapps offense, but with saunders there to give input on palmers strengths and weaknesses will give him a leg up
February 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Cant you just be grateful for the the good football jc played and let it go?
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Probably because you took great satisfaction on every time Palmer threw a pic, or team lost.
Every game you were here afterwards, celebrating the loss, while BRINGING UP JC.
Yeah, you. Now you call someone else out for doing what you did? Get real.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Cant you just be grateful for the the good football jc played and let it go?
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Soup, as Bruce before him, is just like Hue, as Cable before him, who were a great triage situation.
This team was in shambles after the Jamarcus and Kiffin debacles.
Bruce came in and did a great job triaging that situation, working hard and providing a glimmer of hope. Soup picked up on this, and did well for a “Stop-gap”.
Cable did the same as Bruce did, than Hue did well as well, for a “Stop-gap”.
But the future is now upon us, and no more triaging. We have massively upgraded the HC/QB situations with what we have now.
So I thank Soup, just as I thanked Bruce and Cable, for doing their job, and now they most leave the room and let the doctors take over.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Albert Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Cant you just be grateful for the the good football jc played and let it go?
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Probably because you took great satisfaction on every time Palmer threw a pic, or team lost.
Every game you were here afterwards, celebrating the loss, while BRINGING UP JC.
Yeah, you. Now you call someone else out for doing what you did? Get real.
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that is a lie.
I never celebrated a loss. i never took joy in palmers picks. i only reminded people of my take on palmer, and pointed out the drop off in qb play after our leader and severely under valued captain went down. So many people trumpeted an instant upgrade theory and i tried to warn everyone that it more than likely wouldnt be the case. people trashed me for the warning and labeled me a hetr and made bold proclamations about palmer. the vast majority of upgrade talk proved untrue to this point.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
CP3> soup.
It’s not even close……
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On most throws however, I will take JC’s TD to INT ratio…
CP3 needs to improve on throwing INT’s
Needs to lose the identity of being an INT ATM…
February 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
When its good i will say so when it isnt i will do the same, just as i have since joining the board
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So a few games in, if/when Palmer is playing well, you will be M.I.A.
Got it.
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you are full of shid
Im not going to apologize for calling out a qb when he plays poorly. I will not apologize for predicting a qb to play well, then hammering you clowns that said he wouldnt.
That is the issue that you and others really have with me, no matter how you dress it up.
You and other wanted a grads i said he was terrible it proved true.
You and others didnt like jc and predicted failure, i told you he would do well and win and he did.
You and others hailed palmer as the next elite raider qb, i said it wasnt so, and it hasnt been.
This is why you have a problem, but that is indeed your problem
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You called out Palmer before he stepped foot on the field.
Your hero, JC, was benched, twice, for Grad.
JC was a choke artist. That’s why no one looks at him as the answer to anything.
Which is why WA wanted him gone.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Compare that to Mistic1, who trashed Bruce and Cable at any cost even though they massively exceeded their expectations from when they were brought into the organization, is contiunially bashing our current QB, and was Hue’s BFF until he realized he was sold a bill of goods.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Cant you just be grateful for the the good football jc played and let it go?
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Soup, as Bruce before him, is just like Hue, as Cable before him, who were a great triage situation.
This team was in shambles after the Jamarcus and Kiffin debacles.
Bruce came in and did a great job triaging that situation, working hard and providing a glimmer of hope. Soup picked up on this, and did well for a “Stop-gap”.
Cable did the same as Bruce did, than Hue did well as well, for a “Stop-gap”.
But the future is now upon us, and no more triaging. We have massively upgraded the HC/QB situations with what we have now.
So I thank Soup, just as I thanked Bruce and Cable, for doing their job, and now they most leave the room and let the doctors take over.
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see that wasnt so hard was it.
I wont go as far as you though with the “massive upgrade” talk at qb, until palmer ACTUALLY PROVES IT ON THE FIELD.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Albert Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Of course you can determine which Q can make throws based on visual observation. It’s called arm strength.
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That’s why you hung on Jamarcus sac all that time? Because he had a strong arm, he must be able to make the throws?
You’re a tad bit loopy, aren’t you?
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I cannot look at a person and judge their character or heart by appearance. I am glad you can, MR.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I am hoping that McKenzie and Allen are successful, that they bring the Raiders back to prominence.
Is it a sure thing? No, but it is better than having crazy Al at the helm.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Albert Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
When its good i will say so when it isnt i will do the same, just as i have since joining the board
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So a few games in, if/when Palmer is playing well, you will be M.I.A.
Got it.
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you are full of shid
Im not going to apologize for calling out a qb when he plays poorly. I will not apologize for predicting a qb to play well, then hammering you clowns that said he wouldnt.
That is the issue that you and others really have with me, no matter how you dress it up.
You and other wanted a grads i said he was terrible it proved true.
You and others didnt like jc and predicted failure, i told you he would do well and win and he did.
You and others hailed palmer as the next elite raider qb, i said it wasnt so, and it hasnt been.
This is why you have a problem, but that is indeed your problem
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You called out Palmer before he stepped foot on the field.
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i did call out palmer because i thought i knew what we were getting, a guy with major baggage and hype that didnt equal production.
I am still waiting to see palmers production match the elite qb hype.
i dont see why that would trouble you so
February 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Jason Campbell failed as a Raider.
He was brought in, given a contract extension, and was given one mission.
Make the playoffs.
He got benched, was unable to suit up, or left due to injury, in almost more games than he actually played in.
FAIL!!
February 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Did you realize Newt wasn’t on the ballot hence his “not one vote” ?
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Is it scary to anyone else that in a democracy this idiot isn’t even on the ballot? Something tells me he is just going to declare “victory” on election night even if no one votes for him. A lot like some of the moron’s here who get their asses handed to them, get knocked out and then get up wobbly and somehow declare “victory.”
February 8th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: CP
I guess there is no sense going around and around on it, you will get your medicine eventually.
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Vegas has this knack for saying sh’t I would say but with far fewer words.
Points.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Nothing funnier than watching old Brownstains trying to construct a complete sentence. It’s almost as if his computer threw up on the screen.
One day Brownstains will get laid (kind of like that 40 year old virgin) and when he does he might be more enjoyable to read but for now I will watch Seymour spank him daily and just sit back and laugh about it!
February 8th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Palmer DEFINATELY needs to clean up the INT’s. No doubt about that.
However, I will take some of the blame off him (some, not all) for the fact he had no offseason, was thrown into a crazy season, realized his defense was beyond pathetic, and had an ego-maniac running the offense and team, who turned a fairly solid situation into a full-on grease-fire by years end.
I believe Palmer will win the AFC West in 2012, and prove to be on the back end of the top 10 QB’s in the NFL list.
Anything less, and he probably won’t be back in 2013.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Seymour, democracy is mob rule and I’m afraid you’re part of the mob.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Compare that to Mistic1, who trashed Bruce and Cable at any cost even though they massively exceeded their expectations from when they were brought into the organization, is contiunially bashing our current QB, and was Hue’s BFF until he realized he was sold a bill of goods.
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I didnt have aproblem with grads over russel. I did not agrre with grads over jc, and most fans here disagreed with me on this. Like you did. I think play on the field proved which qb was better.
I didnt like cable, i thought he botched the o line, couldnt call plays, and was terrible with qbs and favorites. So what?
I did like hue, but he lost me when davis died, and you are right i was fooled. it wasnt the first and wont be the last.
i will always call out player that under perform even if it makes me the odd man out on this board, including blog favorite palmer.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Twocents Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Seymour, democracy is mob rule and I’m afraid you’re part of the mob.
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Works for me.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
277. Pathetic when RMR whatevah argues with himself on here as diff posters. Yick…
February 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
I wouldn’t say Palmer is a “blog favorite” would you?
I’m being serious. I think we got a majority who are on a wait and see and remaining quasi-hopefully status with him and a good faction that think he is garbage or will completely fail in the Knapp offense.
I feel like I am in the minority, when I say with confidence he will win the division and make the Pro Bowl (at least as an alternate).
February 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
279. “If you listen to fools, the mob rules”
February 8th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Pls correct me if I am wrong here but didnt Grad outplayed JC every time they went up against the same opponent?
February 8th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
“I did like hue, but he lost me when davis died, and you are right i was fooled. it wasnt the first and wont be the last.”
I can verify that as I have been jousting with Mystic1 all year long.
Even though we may not see eye to eye on some things the guy is honest and admits when he is wrong like a man. He did start the season loving Hue Jackson and it is true that he did stop supporting him after we lost AL.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RaiderWeaponX
You are lost little man and you have no credibility here I have been here for many years and most everyone here knows me.
Shut your pie hole you ignorant fool you don’t know me.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Mystic, did I call you a name? Really? And you just called me an idiot? Really? Come on brah, you are better than that…and I NEVER SAID YOU!!!! Why are we still arguing about Palmer/JC/Pryor…we will not know until OTAs, Training Camp, pre-season, or what evers!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Jason Campbell failed as a Raider.
He was brought in, given a contract extension, and was given one mission.
Make the playoffs.
He got benched, was unable to suit up, or left due to injury, in almost more games than he actually played in.
FAIL!!
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12-7 22 tds 12 ints, leading a first place team before his injury is failure?
tough crowd.
you must think palmers season was a colossal flop then
February 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Mystic, did I call you a name? Really? And you just called me an idiot? Really? Come on brah, you are better than that…and I NEVER SAID YOU!!!! Why are we still arguing about Palmer/JC/Pryor…we will not know until OTAs, Training Camp, pre-season, or what evers!!!
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when did i call you an idiot?
February 8th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
you must think palmers season was a colossal flop then
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It wasn’t a “Season”, but yes if we don’t make the playoffs next season (unless say we go 10-6 and don’t make the playoffs) than Palmer will be a flop.
It’s playoff time for this team. I do think Soup COULD have made the playoffs this year, but since he has never done so, we can’t be too confident.
But he got hurt, at something he nearly got hurt doing timeless times with us. Not sure why such a smart, hard-working guy couldn’t break out the sliding pants and learn to slide. Hell, I could have taught him how to do it in less than 2 hours.
Or maybe, we can just blame this on Hue and Saunders, since they were his coaches for most of his career.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
And yes, Palmer being brought in the way he was with Hue gushing all over the place could be considered a failure, but based on what Hue said, not so much him!
WCO is not his forte, agreed…hopefully Knapp will play design to his strengths (maybe that is what Saunders was kept for), but until I see it, I really can’t say anything! 6 more months guys…and, oh well…
February 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Sorry Mistic, re-read and you was generalizing but because you copied my post I took it that way! My apologies!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
277. Pathetic when RMR whatevah argues with himself on here as diff posters. Yick…
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Yick?
Isn’t that what children say?
Yick?
February 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Dudes….. Palmer is our QB. Get ovah it.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RaiderWeaponX
You are lost little man and you have no credibility here I have been here for many years and most everyone here knows me.
Shut your pie hole you ignorant fool you don’t know me.
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Here’s right.
He’s been posting as Seymour. As Debo. As BSDetector.
Oh, and as Oakglenn.
Plus a dozen or so more.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
you must think palmers season was a colossal flop then
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It wasn’t a “Season”, but yes if we don’t make the playoffs next season (unless say we go 10-6 and don’t make the playoffs) than Palmer will be a flop.
It’s playoff time for this team. I do think Soup COULD have made the playoffs this year, but since he has never done so, we can’t be too confident.
But he got hurt, at something he nearly got hurt doing timeless times with us. Not sure why such a smart, hard-working guy couldn’t break out the sliding pants and learn to slide. Hell, I could have taught him how to do it in less than 2 hours.
Or maybe, we can just blame this on Hue and Saunders, since they were his coaches for most of his career.
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believe it or not Jc wanted very badly to win here. he appreciated the blue collar oakland vibe, and was thankful to have Davis believe in him.
He heard the boos after sliding in his first raider game against the titans, and was keenly aware of how that slide painted him as being soft, intsead of smart. he stopped sliding because he wanted to win, he wanted to endear himself to the oakland fans, and his team mates.
He should have ignored all of that, and he would still be the qb for this team.
ironic really
February 8th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Heeeyyyyyy!
Allen and Knappy, did the smart and wise thing and kept Saunders on board.
Saunders will be the eye in the sky and offer suggestions for certain plays to be run to Knapp who will probably be down on the field calling plays.
Saunders will probably also analyze opposing defenses and help implement the offensive game plan and look to see when adjustments need to be made on the offensive end.
Two Kiffin leftovers, Knapp and DeFillipo are back huh?
When is Randy Hanson coming back? LOL
February 8th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I dont think it is fair to call palmer a flop at this point, given the circumstances he faced when signing. Not only missing camp, games and so on, but having to try and win over a locker room that was highly suspicious of him, and completely committed to their leader jc.
there is no doubt though that this the make or break for him though. i also believes he needs fast start, even if his numbers arent great but we win that would be fin in my book.
In fact i want him to be far more conservative, that is when he is at his best, like the first charger game
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Albert Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RaiderWeaponX
You are lost little man and you have no credibility here I have been here for many years and most everyone here knows me.
Shut your pie hole you ignorant fool you don’t know me.
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Here’s right.
He’s been posting as Seymour. As Debo. As BSDetector.
Oh, and as Oakglenn.
Plus a dozen or so more.
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Actually no. I am not 666. Nor Debo. Nor BS Detector. Nor Oakglenn or a dozen or so more. You on the other hand do post as different handles and you have been busted on it more than once, and you claim to live in Chicago but you don’t know anything about the place unless you google it lst. But it’s OK MR, pretty soon you will just get a brand new handle and use that one.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
You idiots still talking about Palmer and Campbell??
Oy vey…this blog is going down the toilet….AGAIN! Lol!
February 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Actually no. I am not 666. Nor Debo. Nor BS Detector. Nor Oakglenn
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Yeah, you’re Oakglenn, and Oakglenn was many.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
You idiots still talking about Palmer and Campbell??
Oy vey…this blog is going down the toilet….AGAIN! Lol!
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Well, yesterday, it was Bible Study in here all afternoon, ok?
February 8th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
You idiots still talking about Palmer and Campbell??
Oy vey…this blog is going down the toilet….AGAIN! Lol!
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Actually it beats MR, errrr, “Albert” from re-quoting comments attributed to me from 2007 or his idiotic claiming that I am someone else even tho 99% of the posters disagree with my comments.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
21.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
As I first reported, Johnny Holland finalizing deal to become our LB coach
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DD,
link? source?
^^^^^^^^
coachsearch.com
hahaha….Holland was the LB coach when the Texans D wasn’t very good. Wade Phillips decided to not keep him on staff.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
believe it or not Jc wanted very badly to win here.
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Why I wouldn’t I believe that?
Soup is a good dude, and a hard-worker.
Some guys just got a hump they can’t get over for whatever reason, and unless something drastic happens in the next few years, Jason Campbell will probably never play in a postseason game his entire career.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Actually no. I am not 666. Nor Debo. Nor BS Detector. Nor Oakglenn
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Yeah, you’re Oakglenn, and Oakglenn was many.
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I believe he is just his handle person. Yesterday there was someone posing as Try Some Reality and I don’t think people cross post as much as some say they do, just someone hijackin handles and postin as them. The cross poster probably doesn’t really have a name just usin other peoples handles. Word.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Actually no. I am not 666. Nor Debo. Nor BS Detector. Nor Oakglenn
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Yeah, you’re Oakglenn, and Oakglenn was many.
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Oakglenn was in all of us. Dude was a legend for sure. Both Jamista Clown and Rack-o-sheeit both have to check in to padded rooms because of that guy.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
DaRayduh Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Actually no. I am not 666. Nor Debo. Nor BS Detector. Nor Oakglenn
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Yeah, you’re Oakglenn, and Oakglenn was many.
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I believe he is just his handle person. Yesterday there was someone posing as Try Some Reality and I don’t think people cross post as much as some say they do, just someone hijackin handles and postin as them. The cross poster probably doesn’t really have a name just usin other peoples handles. Word.
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There was this one guy, King of the Trolls and he would hijack a bunch of handles and post as them. That went on for years.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
It would be nice if we could have a blog personality reunion one day, and everyone just air out their dirty laundry about cross-posting, who called KoolKell and all that good stuff.
Maybe we could get John Salley to host it?
February 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
4:20 fellas
February 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Lets argue about trading DMAC. Even tho NONE of us actually have fielded offers for him.
I am going to go out on a limb and say, unless the compensation is too good to pass up you keep him.
The Bush situation is more complex since he is not under contract. Still wait and see what the franchise tag would cost, but @ $7mil per, I say NO WAY! RBs are NOT that hard to find. And the young ones can come in outta college and contribute pretty quick.
So if not Bushy, who DO you franchise? Branch?
February 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
It would be nice if we could have a blog personality reunion one day, and everyone just air out their dirty laundry about cross-posting, who called KoolKell and all that good stuff.
Maybe we could get John Salley to host it?
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Or Jerry Springer. Most likely springer.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
The true identity of Master Beecham would be interesting.
I know he is one of you regulars on here!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Laughing at #310. That’s funny. Kinda scary too…
February 8th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
I don’t think we have anybody on our roster that is worth franchising.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I can’t believe Corky thinks that Bush will be franchised in the “next two weeks”.
That would be strike one against Reggie.
Bush is not that irreplacable, to where you couldn’t get any of these other veteran FA’s at a much cheaper rate and get similar if not better production.
I like Bush, and want to bring him back, but not at ANY COST.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
The true identity of Master Beecham would be interesting.
I know he is one of you regulars on here!!!
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He has to be rack-o-sheeit. Makes the most sense.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
dmac would be traded if i was the boss. not just because of his injury issue destroying his trade value, but i dont think he is good in the zone run scheme.
“he is a programatical non-fit” lol thanks brad childress
February 8th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I can’t believe Corky thinks that Bush will be franchised in the “next two weeks”.
That would be strike one against Reggie.
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Remember Bush had just under 1000 yards in what 8 starts? That extrapolates to a pretty good season.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
These La Quinta’s piss me off.
You have to be “platinum” status to get a freaking bottle of water and two cookies with your stay, which is somewhere around 30 days a year.
Yet, with my Gold status, I can’t even buy a bottle of water? WTF, I just want to buy one, and they won’t let me.
Sometimes, I feel that our society is disintegrating in front of my eyes.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
pac man and bradly both fight for top rank, bob arum wins by tko no matter how it turns out.
But there is no way bradly beats pac man, and they want to charge 60$ for this snooze fest
February 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Jonathan Holland as our new LB Coach doesnt sound too bad….
From Wiki:
After retiring as a linebacker for Green Bay, Holland moved on to an NFL coaching career. Holland began his coaching career as a defensive quality control coach for the Green Bay Packers from 1995-97. He went on to coach special teams in 1998 and linebackers in 1999. He would help to lead the Packers to back-to-back NFC Championships following the 1995 and 1996 seasons and a World Championship in Super Bowl XXXI.
In 2000, Holland moved on to the Seattle Seahawks, where he served as the assistant special teams/assistant strength and conditioning coach. While there he returned to his more familiar role as linebackers coach in 2001-2002.
For the 2003 season Holland would move to the Detroit Lions. While in Detroit, he was defensive assistant coach for 2003–2004 and linebackers coach for 2005.
Holland has returned to his Texas roots for the 2006 season. He was the linebackers coach for the Houston Texans until being fired in 2011
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I don’t think Bush would be that easy to replace. He does everything well, can break plays as a runner or receiver. And, he’s very powerful.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I will be in Vegas for the Money fight on May 5th.
I love Floyd, but I think Cotto might rough him up for a little, and it will be your typical boxing, bizarre ending.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
As I said before Dennis Allen is reassembling the Kiffin staff. That may not be a bad thing. Kiffin is known for hiring really good coaches.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I don’t think Bush would be that easy to replace. He does everything well, can break plays as a runner or receiver. And, he’s very powerful.
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He’s absolutely horrible in protections. That’s the big knock on him.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Considering when he signed an started. CP gave me you an every other raider fan what you just didn’t quite feel like with JC. Playoff hopes is what CP brought yo town. Now with an offseason healthy run game an time to gel I’m gonna sit back sn watch the fireworks cuz they gonna lite it up.
Print that!
February 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Actually no. I am not 666. Nor Debo. Nor BS Detector. Nor Oakglenn
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Yeah, you’re Oakglenn, and Oakglenn was many.
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Oakglenn was in all of us. Dude was a legend for sure. Both Jamista Clown and Rack-o-sheeit both have to check in to padded rooms because of that guy.
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Funny how time distorts memory.
As I recall MrBrown had you so flustered you actually said you were leaving, and then started up a handful of new names, including this one.
You were just too stupid to not stay away from all the exact same insults you used as Oakglenn. Everyone knew the new handles were you.
Legends don’t cry, and bow out with a whimper.
Wimps do.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I can’t believe Corky thinks that Bush will be franchised in the “next two weeks”.
That would be strike one against Reggie.
Bush is not that irreplacable, to where you couldn’t get any of these other veteran FA’s at a much cheaper rate and get similar if not better production.
I like Bush, and want to bring him back, but not at ANY COST.
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Well, I have no problem franchising Bush, if it is to give more time to hammer out a contract or to trade him if there is no agreement on a contract. The Pats did this with Matt Cassell…his stock is pretty high?
February 8th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
324.KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I don’t think Bush would be that easy to replace. He does everything well, can break plays as a runner or receiver. And, he’s very powerful.
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Flip side-Average speed and wears down as season goes on. Is not a distance threat. Power runner straight ahead who does not have the speed to get around the corner.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Albert Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Funny how time distorts memory.
As I recall MrBrown had you so flustered you actually said you were leaving, and then started up a handful of new names, including this one.
You were just too stupid to not stay away from all the exact same insults you used as Oakglenn. Everyone knew the new handles were you.
Legends don’t cry, and bow out with a whimper.
Wimps do.
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Why don’t you go find that Albert? Instead of just posting BS? But the one fact we all know is you were on here glossing Albert. Thinking you were posting as MR. Sucks to be you MR. Since you are a bona fide proven liar, nothing you say matters. Bye.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Albert
You know we busted you so just let it go.
The fact that you accuse others of cross posting is the single most hypocritical statement ever made in here.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I will be in Vegas for the Money fight on May 5th.
I love Floyd, but I think Cotto might rough him up for a little, and it will be your typical boxing, bizarre ending.
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Hmmmm,
I dont think cotto has been the same since the plaster in the gloves deal. Cotto is slick but doesnt have the foot and hand speed to keep up with mayweather. i could see the fight close until the last 4-5 rounds as cotto fades like he often does in the later rounds.
It is ridiculous that we arent watching money and pac man on the 5th, this fight may never happen
February 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
“As I recall MrBrown had you so flustered you actually said you were leaving,”
WRONG!
its the other way around there dyslexic man Seymour had old Brownstains so rattled he was paranoid accusing everyone in here of being him.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I always liked Bush, but I don’t think he is a lead back.
I think Kiffin gave him the impression that he would be #1 and then Al drafted McFadden.
Bush never got over it and that makes him a weakling.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I will be in Vegas for the Money fight on May 5th.
I love Floyd, but I think Cotto might rough him up for a little, and it will be your typical boxing, bizarre ending.
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Vegas is the bomb, when big fights are in town. I was at the Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran fight. Everybody’s in town. I met Magic & Dr Buss at a casino. Magic was surrounded by fans, Dr Buss was sitting at a .25 slot, with 2 babes in his lap, Lol. He was very nice.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
people said i was oaklglenn too, lol
cross posting is for suckas
February 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
“As I recall MrBrown had you so flustered you actually said you were leaving,”
WRONG!
its the other way around there dyslexic man Seymour had old Brownstains so rattled he was paranoid accusing everyone in here of being him.
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That’s actually the way I remember it. That Jamista was so psychotic that he would wake in the middle of night shreaking “oakglenn, oakglennnnnnnnnnnnn…..”
February 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Flip side-Average speed and wears down as season goes on. Is not a distance threat. Power runner straight ahead who does not have the speed to get around the corner.
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He’s 245 pounds, and I’ve seen him break plenty of 40-60yd runs.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I will be in Vegas for the Money fight on May 5th.
I love Floyd, but I think Cotto might rough him up for a little, and it will be your typical boxing, bizarre ending.
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Vegas is the bomb, when big fights are in town. I was at the Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran fight. Everybody’s in town. I met Magic & Dr Buss at a casino. Magic was surrounded by fans, Dr Buss was sitting at a .25 slot, with 2 babes in his lap, Lol. He was very nice
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wow! hands of stone and the motor city cobra?!?!
They both would kick the crap out of floyd in their primes
February 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Manny is Bob Arum’s cash cow and the last fight made Arum afraid to have the Pacman fight Floyd. Want 2 more fights before risking it all. Kinda like Butch Lewis having Spinks avoid Tyson. When they met, Spinks went in 1. Rumored to have smoked one to ease the fear factor before the fight. lol
February 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
people said i was oaklglenn too, lol
cross posting is for suckas
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hahaha. Exactly. Everyone was Oakglenn and Oakglenn was everyone..hahahaha
February 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Bush doesnt have good lateral speed, but his speed up the field is damn good. he is your classic one cut down hill runner, perfect in a zone scheme
February 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
He’s 245 pounds, and I’ve seen him break plenty of 40-60yd runs
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Caught from behind on all. Give me one where he went to the house from distance in the pros.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Manny is Bob Arum’s cash cow and the last fight made Arum afraid to have the Pacman fight Floyd. Want 2 more fights before risking it all. Kinda like Butch Lewis having Spinks avoid Tyson. When they met, Spinks went in 1. Rumored to have smoked one to ease the fear factor before the fight. lol
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agreed, i think he saw the last pac man fight as an omen, pac man is clearly slowing down. fighting bradly and kahn before money makes cents, so it also makes sense.
Kahn screwed himself losing to peterson, so arum took bradly as a low risk cash grab.
Even if he does fight money and loses they can always do a rematch if it is close. I think arum sees this version of pac man geting smoked by floyd, and like you pointed out is stalling
February 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I went to the Meldrick Taylor vrs. Julio Caesar Chavez fight. Still have a jacket from that one. The fight was stopped with seconds left by referee Richard Steele.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I went to the Meldrick Taylor vrs. Julio Caesar Chavez fight. Still have a jacket from that one. The fight was stopped with seconds left by referee Richard Steele.
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classic fight, controversial, but i do think it was the right call.
By the way it didnt save taylor, he continued to fight until he could no longer be granted a license. He has so many screws loose now he cant put together a coherent sentence.
Punch drunk doesnt even begin to cover it
February 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
“Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
people said i was oaklglenn too, lol
cross posting is for suckas
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hahaha. Exactly. Everyone was Oakglenn and Oakglenn was everyone..hahahaha”
Me too old Brownstains called me Oakglenn as well which leads me to believe that this Oakglen guy got in the heads of a few people here.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
richard steel was a joke, but he actually made the right call in that fight
February 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
“Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
people said i was oaklglenn too, lol
cross posting is for suckas
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hahaha. Exactly. Everyone was Oakglenn and Oakglenn was everyone..hahahaha”
Me too old Brownstains called me Oakglenn as well which leads me to believe that this Oakglen guy got in the heads of a few people here.
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i have been here since 09, and the only guy i have ever seen admit to cross posting is rmr.
By the way what ever happened to priest, the most passionate least patient poster of all time. PERIOD.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
i think most of the regulars have very funny trade mark tag lines, and very distinctive styles.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Oakglenn was one of the people who hated me for criticizing Al Davis. He cross-posted a lot to get at me. Lol
Right Seymour?
February 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
“i have been here since 09, and the only guy i have ever seen admit to cross posting is rmr.
By the way what ever happened to priest, the most passionate least patient poster of all time. PERIOD.”
Yeah I he had great information in a lot of his posts.
I have been here for 6 years and I remember guys like Raider Dell, Raider RockStar, Kool Kell, MR when he was MR and many others that are still here where here when I first found out about this blog.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Video clip of Tarver talking about coaching Defense at Stanford.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ_fkc4I6lk&feature=player_embedded
February 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I’ve been here since the beginning of this blog, under the same handle, no less. Battling trolls & cross-posters. They hate me.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
This is nothing but good.
Saunders, from the time he was a Raider ball-boy until tomorrow has more knowledge of O-schemes than Knapp and Defillippo etc. have accumulated together. An excellent resource for the staff
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No football job or analyst job for Huebris yet? Free money this year and then when that runs out his wife is gonna do a deserved Lorena Bobbitt on him for squandering it all.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
“Oakglenn was one of the people who hated me for criticizing Al Davis. He cross-posted a lot to get at me. Lol”
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That’s how Oakglen used to respond to your posts with a bunch of @ signs.
You remember that KK?
February 8th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
344.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Bush doesnt have good lateral speed, but his speed up the field is damn good. he is your classic one cut down hill runner, perfect in a zone scheme
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I’d like to see him become more decisive at the LOS. Too many times I saw him dancing around instead of hitting the hole. He will be more productive in a zone scheme the better he gets at eliminating that.
Fortunately, we have a good running backs coach. If Bush is on the roster next year he will be in good hands.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
345. The only one I remember was against the bucs in Tampa after Cable took over from Kiff.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
If Al were still running things, I’d expect to see an ex-Raider like Russell Maryland brought in as a DL coach and someone to groom for possibly a future DC role.
I think Maryland has all the right assets. He was a solid Raider DL for several seasons, had a very good work ethic, seems intelligent and well spoken, had a good blend of technique and power, and he also seemed well respected by his teammates.
The only catch — his coaching experience is limited right now to running youth football camps. That, and neither Allen nor McKenzie have any Raider ties to him (different era for Rod and Russell)
February 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I’ve been here since the beginning of this blog, under the same handle, no less. Battling trolls & cross-posters. They hate me.
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Let’s clarify those priceless statements, shall we Michael Kelly of Kane & Associates?
“I’ve been here since the beginning of this blog,”
except when traveling internationally and riding your shiny corvette in small town parades
“under the same handle, no less.”
KrappyKell
“Battling trolls & cross-posters.”
Getting smacked, slapped and backhanded by any blogger with a pulse
“They hate me.
”
They love you. Never been an easier target
February 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
KK,
hating you as a person is too much effort.
hating your incessant hating of Al was effortless.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
OK, here’s an interesting name for possible DL coach: John Parella. Another ex-Raider DL that had the work ethic that you’d look for in an ex-player turned coach. He’s also currently Head Coach at Valley Christian High School in Dublin, so he clearly has interest and some experience coaching.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Oakglenn was one of the people who hated me for criticizing Al Davis. He cross-posted a lot to get at me. Lol
Right Seymour?
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hahahahaha
i remember you posting davis’s record post free agency and when i asked why you posted it everyday you hit me with your all time line and called me a “bootlicker”
hahahahahahahah very funny stuff
February 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
perfect D-line coach for the Oaktowners – Chester McGlo
alas…RIP
February 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
hahahahaha
i remember you posting davis’s record post free agency and when i asked why you posted it everyday you hit me with your all time line and called me a “bootlicker”
hahahahahahahah very funny stuff
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Lol, I was under attack everyday. Those days are over, now most people agree, Al needed to go. Funny that.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Don’t know who the DL and LB and DB coaches will be but Tarver and Coach Dennis have to make the boys into professional men.
if they don’t wanna be adults they’ll have to take their contracts to Mr Reggie – oops.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I wonder how a Vet like Richard Seymour are going to respond to the kid, DC.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Krappy’s status as the first official “Blog Punching Bag” has long since been cemented.
For some reason the old goat thinks there’s status in getting his clock cleaned daily on a football blog.
Although it’s understandable – we’re talking about the same old goof who considers himself cultured because he’s been to Copenhagen
February 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
370. Thought it was because he had chewed copenhagen?
February 8th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
KK,
kid DC as well as kid HC, and for that matter OC are all older than the kids playing the game.
Retreading can add some life but a whole new set of tires can bring better handling and mileage.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Parella wouldn’t be bad. He was a 100% effort guy, and that usually translates well to coaching.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Although it’s understandable – we’re talking about the same old goof who considers himself cultured because he’s been to Copenhagen
Copenhagen
Stockholm
Oslo
Paris
London
Zurich
Geneva
Montreux
Tokyo
Hong Kong
Singapore
Seoul
Perth
Sydney
As well Beecham
February 8th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Amsterdam as well Beecham, read em and weep.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
you just can’t help yourself can you Kell?
Gotta jump in…
February 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Safari in Tanzania for our 20th anniversary.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
JLofty Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
you just can’t help yourself can you Kell?
Gotta jump in…
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What, aren’t I allowed to defend myself?
February 8th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
KoolKell, why not just stay home and meditate?
February 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
It’s the need/compulsion to defend one’s self that should be questioned…
February 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
John Parella…interesting choice! When healthy he was pretty bad arse!
February 8th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
JLofty Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
It’s the need/compulsion to defend one’s self that should be questioned…
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Oh, I see. but you felt the need to comment……very well.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Twocents Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
KoolKell, why not just stay home and meditate?
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Did you ever find a suitable country to live in, with no government? I suggested Somalia.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
But I see you are sorely missing a trip to Reykjavik. A man cannot consider himself cultured by merely visiting Covenhagen but not Bergen. I mean really…
February 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Richard Seymour coming off a bogus pro-bowl season = perfect time to trade him.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
No Kell, I haven’t. I am hoping that my fellow Americans will see the light. But in the meantime, I am here for the duration.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
JLofty Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
But I see you are sorely missing a trip to Reykjavik. A man cannot consider himself cultured by merely visiting Covenhagen but not Bergen. I mean really…
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I agree, Beecham, you listening?
February 8th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@385, yeah but who’ll take him? The worst GM in the league just stripped us of a No.1 and a No.2 round pick…
Maybe that guy from AZ, the heat’ll get to your head eventually…
February 8th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Krappy, please explain how rattling off a boring list of cities is “defending yourself”
That’s just sad bragging, which is why we all make fun of you.
If you really want to defend yourself, explain why all your pointless travel justifies not having a job, mooching off your wife, etc.
Now watch ladies and gentlemen, as Tubby does his classic “Run for the Hills!” routine
February 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Beecham, it’s our 27th anniversary today.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
385.Just Win Baby Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Richard Seymour coming off a bogus pro-bowl season = perfect time to trade him.
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Good point.
I don’t know if anybody would buy it though.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Congratulations, Kell.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Thank-you Ed Teach, couldn’t be happier. I’m a lucky man.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
hmmm what makes a good blog rivalry?
1.) solid football takes. you must have opinion that can be justified with hard evidence, game footage stats, quotes from players coaches or experts
2.) Creativity with insults
3.) the ability to find more than one way to make a point
4.) knowledge tah at the end of the day we are all radier fans ,and nothing here should ever be taken too seriously, or personally.
5.) if we meet somewhere lets have a beer and a few, its all in fun laughs
February 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Raiders are gonna shock the football world in 2012.
Mark has given the keys to young football guys with fresh ideas who are driven to succeed.
They know how to get the best out of this team.
12-4.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
this movie chronicle im watchin is just great… top 25 movies ever already.. not kidding dudes
February 8th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
hey mistic.. wut if we dont drink ? will u have a green tea with me ?
February 8th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Doriangray Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
kell ,, who cares bout yo anniversary… sentimental azz nicca,…. log off the internet and go take a dark bubble bath wit yo wife
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Whenever I see the N-word here, I send it straight to blog management.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
6 more months to football good grief.
We need some roster and personnel updates please!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
As for football…Without question this is the most important hire for McK & AD for not only the O but to the D as well. Saunders headcoachng experience allows AD to focus on developing his green DC and manage team and have a mentor on staff AND help Knapp become a real OC!
February 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
so, lets watch CHRONICLE , this move is superb .. –
http://www.putlocker.com/file/3A1A47CE5F18BF92#
February 8th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Doriangray Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
kell u snitch.. whenever i see a snitch. i send em straight to lucifer . my moms black & my pos irish . so im an angry ex drunk with thick hair. calm down tattle tale……
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Too Late.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Doriangray you are so juvenile let the man enjoy his anniversary
February 8th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Man, I’m starting to like this Doriangray character more and more!
Doggin’ out Krappy for his sentimentality on his anniversary is priceless!
DG, keep it up and you might find that Reggae Party Boat invite in your mail sooner than you dreamed.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
“Knapp’s background has its roots in a West Coast-type offensive system which utilizes quarterback rollouts and bootlegs and predominantly a zone blocking style of offense.
Saunders’ coaching tree, which dates back to Don Coryell and the San Diego Chargers, stressed more of a downfield type of passing attack. With Palmer being a quarterback more suited for dropback passing than throwing on the move, Saunders can assist in blending the two systems.”
I don’t know about this. Some small adjustments to the current O system would be fine. I guess they could do a hybrid thing. I don’t see Palmer doing rollouts and bootlegs.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Dorian, thanks for the chuckle, that is some funny stuff.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
LOB CITY REPRESENTIN’ IN C TOWN, WORD
Yo homies & Krappy, just finished modifying the PARTYBRO 8500 so it can now pump out Mai Tai Slurpees.
All it took was mistakenly bumping one of the Beeech Dawgette’s head into the main cooler while I was getting her from behind.
Guess the impact somehow turned the ice into slush.
Anyway the Clips are going down to the wire with the Cavs. This game is much better while getting a solid, sentimental BJ. Which, coincidentally, is occurring to your boy right at this very moment.
WIZZLE
February 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Oh man Jeremy Lin did it again tonite. Poor W’s. Can never catch a break. We let another good player go again.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
cross posting is for suckas
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
“As I recall MrBrown had you so flustered you actually said you were leaving,”
WRONG!
its the other way around there dyslexic man Seymour had old Brownstains so rattled he was paranoid accusing everyone in here of being him.
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That’s actually the way I remember it. That Jamista was so psychotic that he would wake in the middle of night shreaking “oakglenn, oakglennnnnnnnnnnnn…..”
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See what I mean, Oakglenn/Seymour/666?
Just like last night. Seymour gets his ass whipped, he then starts cross posting, and then thanks himself for helping himself out.
Here’s Oakglenn as 666, agreeing with himself as Seymour, who agreed back, with himself.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
409.doriangray Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
uhh reggae ? .. ok …
u right snb66 .. u right . kell . i hope u and your lovely wife enjoy your bottle of moscato & sirloin steak while u both watch lifetimes cheesy movie of the week. my apoligies for my juvenile behaviour.
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If he sent it in already it’s too late.
Hope we see u back sometime (with a different name of course).
February 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
LOB CITY REPRESENTIN’ IN C TOWN, WORD
Yo homies & Krappy, just finished modifying the PARTYBRO 8500 so it can now pump out Mai Tai Slurpees.
All it took was mistakenly bumping one of the Beeech Dawgette’s head into the main cooler while I was getting her from behind.
Guess the impact somehow turned the ice into slush.
Anyway the Clips are going down to the wire with the Cavs. This game is much better while getting a solid, sentimental BJ. Which, coincidentally, is occurring to your boy right at this very moment.
WIZZLE
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Good for you. I hope he’s good-looking.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
I like everything the Raiders are doing.
1) Brought in GM from GB(recent SB winner)
2) Defenseve HC from our hated Rival- His Defense Won our Divison!
3) Brought back Knapp who was on a playoff Team!
4)brought in Special Teams coach from our other hated rival!
5) DC that has NFL experience and worked with Jim Hardballz, which has to be a good thing!
So Far so good
Now it’s personnel time and the 800lb Elephant in the room is what I believe is the toughest decision they have to make which is why I feel they need to trade DMAC.
I disagree when people say he’s our best player( when healthy), which is comical because “When is He Healthy”. Answer: Not enough!
He has his most value, right now, and again we saw a Pass First Offense with 3 great WR, a nice TE, and a running game that does just enough win the SB. No Dmac is my favorite player but when he’s not playing he hurts this team, you can’t tell me that we couldn’t have used that roster spot since KC?
Anyways, get a Big Time Pass Rusher, Mario, USI, drop some of our Fat overpaid guys, trading Seymour if someone would be dumb enough to take him, would be good too if we can pull that one off.
I believ D.A. Will coach up Slowlando, definitely bring in come more corners to push DVD and Chekwa, and when he coached NO defensive backs, they were aggressive, and they were ballhawks. Upgrade one of our LB spots. We saw BlackBurn make a Pick in the SB!
We also saw Slowlando Get burned in coverage….
I like everything so far, keep going ReggieMac, we knew you inherited a weird situation, the cleaners are cleaning things up real well….
February 8th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
KoolKell,congrats to You and youre wife,wow,27years,salute! DH
February 8th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
What’s with all the double posting, multiple names, etc?
I have barely enough time to get in here every once in awhile.that all sounds creepy, lol….
February 8th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
And after Oakglenn, as Seymour says “That Oakglenn guy was a legend. got in everyone’s head” here you have Oakglenn posting as 666, saying:
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
“Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
people said i was oaklglenn too, lol
cross posting is for suckas
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hahaha. Exactly. Everyone was Oakglenn and Oakglenn was everyone..hahahaha”
Me too old Brownstains called me Oakglenn as well which leads me to believe that this Oakglen guy got in the heads of a few people here.
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Seriously? You really think a single person doesn’t know all of you are the same person?
Really?
February 8th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Duck,
#415 is LOL!!
February 8th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
The culture change is the biggest plus for the coming season.
Sterling Moore on the diff. between Oak. and NE: “It’s a lot more businesslike here that’s for sure”.
Always wondered why FA’s didn’t flock to Oakland with the laid back atmosphere. Now I know. The good ones WANT TO WIN and be CHALLENGED and COACHED.
Guys get out of college where they are getting hammered and yelled at and they get to Oakland and get a bunch of $ and basically play at their own pace.
How cool will it be to see a Raider team that takes this stuff seriously?
February 8th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Albert Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
cross posting is for suckas
Seymour Bush Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
“As I recall MrBrown had you so flustered you actually said you were leaving,”
WRONG!
its the other way around there dyslexic man Seymour had old Brownstains so rattled he was paranoid accusing everyone in here of being him.
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That’s actually the way I remember it. That Jamista was so psychotic that he would wake in the middle of night shreaking “oakglenn, oakglennnnnnnnnnnnn…..”
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See what I mean, Oakglenn/Seymour/666?
Just like last night. Seymour gets his ass whipped, he then starts cross posting, and then thanks himself for helping himself out.
Here’s Oakglenn as 666, agreeing with himself as Seymour, who agreed back, with himself.
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Pot calling the kettle black? Was it you that posted under my handle yesterday, MR?
February 8th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
You idiots still talking about Palmer and Campbell??
Oy vey…this blog is going down the toilet….AGAIN! Lol!
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It’s Misty’s favorite topic. Every single mutha effin day he comes in here with the same tired azz garbage. Poor fella’. The elevator goes up but the doors don’t open.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Thanks, Hendu.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Doriangray you are so juvenile let the man enjoy his anniversary
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What’s more juvenile, what Doriangray just did or that old fool calling someone’s mom names when all that person did was ask if he was sleeping on the couch that night?
That old frankenstein lookin’ fool is a joke. Stop defending him.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
27 years seems like a long time, but in actuality…its only beginning! Happy Anniversary, Kell! Congrats!
February 8th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Kell,
You have been married 4 less years than I have been alive.
Happy Anniversary to you and the old lady, you ‘ol bastard!!
February 8th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Raiders need to change the “image” of rebellious bikers and be more like angry gladiators.
Gladiators of ancient Rome trained extremely hard every day in the pits. They were in tremendous shape physically and mentally…more than anyone else, to take on the challenge of the life and death battles of the arena.
They didn’t sluff off or take it easy. They trained…HARD to destroy their adversaries.
I think that’s the true “image” that was originally intended. Not the drunken biker, who while “tough” was out of shape and ultimately not fit for battle.
I hope for that “gladiator” mindset to be implemented.
That is the kind of Raider “brand” we need to see without comprimise.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Why franchise Bush when you can get Marshawn Lynch who is a free agent and from OAKLAND for dang near the same price!
Cork thinks that we can’t have Mcfadden and Lynch on the roster at the same time, but I say why not????
Anybody remember Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson?
Sheesh. Some people just hate to see several weapons at the same time. With Mcfadden’s injury history I think it is perfect.
Where’s your freakin imagination Cork?
Give me Marshawn Lynch and let Bush walk…
February 8th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Well, Dorian’s post is now ghost, and I suspect, so is he, lol.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
If we get Lynch, you can let both walk.
Not that I would recommend that, but Lynch has another 2-3 years of being an everydown, all the time back.
You only get about 3-5 years from guys like that, before they break down or simply not good enough anymore to be an everydown.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Trading McF would be one of the riskiest business moves in the NFL. If he stays injury free for the team he moves to, and we struggle without him, we are talking empty stadium after week 8. You don’t trade your most exciting player because of injury. Not if you are a sound businessman. A foot injury can be tricky, but its not like he keeps blowing out knees. I’d be more worried about A. Peterson now than McF. McF hasn’t been taken a punishing… and has NEVER had a knee problem… unless I am missing something from college.
I think we should baby him more… 15 to 18 carries a game tops until playoffs… but no way trade him.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
#424, Armchair; raiders were able to have Marcus & Bo at the same time, because there was not free agency at that time.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
I think we should baby him more… 15 to 18 carries a game tops until playoffs
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He is not averaging even that for his career, so that isn’t really babying him.
That’s about the most you are going to get out of him.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
You don’t need or want an every down back.
You don’t need to spend alot of money in that area. 3 man rotation….
February 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Raiders finally started listing their coach roster on their official website again. This time however, there is a picture of each coach next to their name, that was not there before.
Coaches are getting some respect in Raider Nation.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
323.KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I don’t think Bush would be that easy to replace. He does everything well, can break plays as a runner or receiver. And, he’s very powerful.
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Not very powerful from what I saw.
How many chances did he get to make ONE FREAKING YARD on the goal line?
We saw that on more than one occasion.
ONE YARD!!!
Lots of backs can’t get that one yard when the D is stacked like that and it doesn’t kake Bush a bad back per se, but I don’t see much power.
I DO see alot of getting the ball, tip toeing a bit, then falling forward, or running through gaping holes that my grandma could get yards through.
Bush does not impress me but his 3.9 yds. a carry are not the worst i’ve ever seen either.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Raiders coaching roster
http://www.raiders.com/team/coaches.html
February 8th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
You trade him of 3reasons:
1) he rarely plays
2) it’s been proven for awhile you don’t need an “all- world” RB to win the SB. Last one was Marshall Faulk….
3) he has his most value now, if he gets injured again after 8 games, we lost an opportunity….
February 8th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Thanks Hwndr, JFB.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Marshawn Lynch is no Michael Bush.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Marshwan Lynch is more explosive, and runs Bigger than Bush, no question.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
#424, Armchair; raiders were able to have Marcus & Bo at the same time, because there was not free agency at that time.
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It doesn’t matter WHY or HOW Marcus and Bo were on the team at the same time. The point is that they were both able to CO EXIST, which was what Corkran was trying to say couldn’t happen!
Mcfadden is under contract and Lynch is a free agent. Bush made MORE than Lynch last year and the cost to franchise him would be roughly the SAME as it would cost to get Lynch.
Since most ratioanal fans realize that we need TWO capable backs, it makes more sense to get BEASTMODE to split the carries with Mcfadden .
He is a much more violent, decisive runner than Bush and if he can be gotten for the SAME PRICE it is a WIN WIN situation.
Let Bush walk…
February 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Young fellers, here’s a tip from an old ladies man: If you like women, they will like you back. Not just that particular girl. But, you have to like women in general. I’ve been blessed.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
303Raider Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Marshwan Lynch is more explosive, and runs Bigger than Bush, no question.
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303Raider has common sense. Thank you.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
We saw the Bush show on full display last year. He fizzled out. I’ll take Marshawn any day over Bush and 3 times on Sunday.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Why would you want to trade a guy in DMAC that was making our offense look real good when we had mediocrity at QB? Can only imagine with Palmer.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
We’ll see what Reggie thinks about the two.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Krappy, is KrappyWife & her Bowl Cut pretty excited you’re spending your anniversary embarrassing yourself on the blog?
Old fool, how about at least logging off for a few hours and take your old lady for a few flapjacks at IHOP.
I’m sure a little maple syrup will get her in the mood to at least give you an old fashioned hand jiggity.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Let me attempt to share some common sense with you non believers….
If Michael Bush is worth the FRANCHISE TAG, that means that he is worthy of being a STARTER on any other team. Therefore along with Mcfadden, we would essentially have 2 STARTING Running Backs on the team.
So if Bush and Mcfadden can, and HAVE played together, despite the fact that they are BOTH essentially STARTERS, then how and the hell can Mcfadden and Lynch not play together and share snaps because they are two starting caliber backs?
That logic makes absolutely no sense. Bush is a starter and is capable of sharing snaps with Mcfadden, but Lynch can’t?
Get the F outta here!
February 8th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Michael Bush isn’t worth the franchise tag, ArmChair. If he gets it, I will be disappointed.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Marshawn Lynch avgeraged 4.2 yds. per carry in 2011
Bush? 3.8
Of the leagues Top 50 running backs Bush ranks only above FIVE (5) others in that statistic.
DMAC’S 5.4 ranks him 4th in the league.
Albeit he had an agonizingly short season.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
That said, I agree with wanting Lynch here.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
One thing you CAN say for Bush is he is durable.
Never got injured. Took the rock everytime it was asked.
There is something to be said for that.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Young fellers, here’s a tip from an old ladies man: If you like women, they will like you back. Not just that particular girl. But, you have to like women in general. I’ve been blessed.
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LOL. Coming from a guy that can’t pull himself away from a blog on his ANNIVERSARY. You are absolutely hilarious.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Read my earlier post 434 about why trading Dmac may be a good choice:
1) he rarely plays
2) you don’t need a great running back to win the SB
3) his best value is now, not if he only plays 9 games and then is hurt.
4) this is his 5th year and he has only been healthy for 1 year and even then he missed a few games.
Get me Marshawn ,develop Taiwan and sign an undrafted Gem. That’s where Reggie needs to show his worth.
Put that money that was gonna go to Dmac and potentially overpaying for bush,and spend that money getting a big time pass rusher and/or upgrading our “o” line.
It’s more important that Carson stays upright then Dmac is on this team.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Doesn’t get injured but sure tires and fizzles out easily. He might as well have been injured towards the end there.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Marshwyn got stronger as the year progressed, Bush, slowed way down last 4 -5 games….
February 8th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Nobody in the ADC West wants to see a healthy McFaddy and a dialed in Palmer with Reece, Moore, Ford, and DHB on the field.
Reece as a WR, TE, FB, or HB
No body in the leauge fir that matter!
February 8th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
452.Try Some Reality Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Doesn’t get injured but sure tires and fizzles out easily. He might as well have been injured towards the end there.
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You’re right. And as # 453 says:
453.303Raider Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Marshwyn got stronger as the year progressed, Bush, slowed way down last 4 -5 games….
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…and we lost 4 of the last 5 of those games he faltered.
I still blame the defense the most. We still shoulda won anyway.
Bush didn’t help tho.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Nobody in the ADC West wants to see a healthy McFaddy and a dialed in Palmer with Reece, Moore, Ford, and DHB on the field.
Reece as a WR, TE, FB, or HB
No body in the leauge fir that matter!
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Not nearly as scary with Bush instead of McFabulous!
Bush as the FB in front of McDaddy, and Reece as TE would be interesting,
February 8th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
#451,
Yes, and it is common knowledge that the most important position on any NFL team is the QB.
Whatever it takes to keep Palmer “upright” has to be a priority.
That being said, I still love me some DMAC.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Nobody In the AfC West, NFL,have seen Dmac play much…
Trade him…..
February 8th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Dmac is my favorite player, I have his jersey and so does my son….
Dude is a high priced cheerleader with bad feet, not a good recipe for a NFL RB….
February 8th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Dmac= Leading rusher last season before injury.
But once again rushing teams do not win super bowls.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Trade dmac and develop Taiwan Jones…some people take that madden franchise mode serious..huh?
February 8th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
DMac is a beast in Madden!!!
I would not trade him. Bush will leave for the money.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
FA we should consider:
-backup QBs: JC/ C Henne/ V Young/ D Dixon/ Orton
-backup RBs: Tolbert/ Hillis/ Lynch/ Bush/ Benson/ Brown
-WR: M Colston/ S Johnson/ R Meachem/ B Edwards/ Chaz
-OL: C Nicks/ B Grubbs/ Satele/ McNeil
-DE: Mario Williams/ Calais Campbell
-DT: resign Dez/ B Buckley/ S L Hill/ Red Bryant/ P Sims
-CB: C Finnegan/ B Carr/ T Porter/ R Marshall
-SS: Resign Branch/ L Landry
February 8th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
We should also resign Reece.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
According to an article posted by J this morning, we are at 140 million in salaries, which is about 15 million over the projected salary cap.
Who should we trade/ release/ restructure?
February 8th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
We need to focus on fixing the defense, adding a backup RB, and strengthening the OL.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Hi everybody.
Couldn’t help it.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Saunders is 65. Isn’t the Steelers’ DC in his 70s?
February 8th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
well ,that sucked
February 8th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Could the Raiders franchise tag Branch or Reece, I would much rather have either of those two returning than any of the other free agents?
In fact the only free agents the Raiders have that I definately want to see return are Branch, Reece, & Bryant; next to and/or equal to Vehldeer, Moore, Wisniewski, Palmer, Shaughnessy, & and McFadden they are the most important/best players on our roster.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Dick LeBeau will be 75 next season. Excellent post.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
If we were going to retain Saunders anyway…why not keep him as the offensive coordinator. Why keep him and demote him, when his track record and body of work is superior to Knapp, and he had more success during his time with the Raiders?
Makes no sense to me. What advantage is to be gained by hiring Knapp and demoting Saunders. If Saunders is worth keeping on the staff, shouldn’t he be the OC?smh.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d826c0413/Coughlin-and-Manning-to-Hall-of-Fame?module=HP11_content_stream
Wow, Coughlin and Manning to the Hall of Fame. NOT without Flores and Plunkett.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Reece is a RFA (Dez too), so we don’t have to tag them. SS T Branch is a different story. Should we tag him?
February 8th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I think we should tag Branch, and then resign him to a long term contract. He is the only FA on the team I would tag.
February 8th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
if we dont keep branch , hell be makin plays 4 the pats next season. of course
February 8th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
279. “If you listen to fools, the mob rules”
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Naw, you misunderstood me. When I said “IF you listen to fools, the mob rules” quoting Ronnie James DIo Black Sabbath.
You’d think with a name like 666 you;d know that mang…
They’re gonna revoke your statnic church member ship
February 8th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
O — There’s no reason to Franchise TyBranch. Just sign him to a long-term deal, at not quite this year’s Franchise number for a couple of years. I don’t think he’ll be too hard to re-sign…this is an exciting time in Alameda.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
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Master Beeecham Says:
Krappy, please explain how rattling off a boring list of cities is “defending yourself”
That’s just sad bragging, which is why we all make fun of you.
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Ummm, Beeechum troll –
Sad bragging is all you do in here. What you believe goes for humor is sad…but not quite as sad as when you try to defend yourself by offering up pathetic lyrics/raps.
You’ve been busted not knowing anything about music, or the Industry…you can’t even name your favorite microphone. Your “lyrics” are so poorly written, it’s obvious you have no meter, as well as not having any concept of theory or song structure.
So, Beeech troll — Let’s just call it straight: You were just busted giving KK shat, when you are one of the blog’s leading bullshat spreaders.
Your award, sir!
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February 8th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Branch signs a modest yet fair deal Bush gets the franchise
February 8th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
465.Raider O Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
According to an article posted by J this morning, we are at 140 million in salaries, which is about 15 million over the projected salary cap.
Who should we trade/ release/ restructure?
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I don’t know how he figures it, but Cork says the cap is no problem and there’s alot of finanglin’ that can be done to get around it.
I think part of that “finanglin” wil involve dumping some big salaries though.
-Seymour should go. He really doesn’t do much. He’s got his rings and I don’t think he cares enuff to push himself and deal with a regime that’ll demand so much from him. He had enuff of that in NE-where they demand alot from guys.
-Bush
-Campbell
-Kelly
That would free up a whole heck of a lot.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I concur, X.
I’d like to hang on to Bush and DMC at least one more year (providing a good trade for DMC doesn’t materialize first). It would be nice to not need to draft another RB this year, while we see what Taiwan’s gonna look like.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Taiwan is gonna look like DMC but without the hands, the pass protection but same injury time. His knock has always been health.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
473.DaRayduh Says:
Wow, Coughlin and Manning to the Hall of Fame. NOT without Flores and Plunkett.
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Unfortunately, the great Jim Plunkett will not be voted in, 2 Super Bowls or not. His TD-to-INT ratio is upside-down, and by a lot.
If Stabler and Lester Hayes 37 (two of the most recognizable faces of the NFL during their playing days) never get in, there’s no way Plunk does.
Tom Flores does deserve to go, and I think he’s got a slim chance. Coughlin’s 2 SB wins will get people looking that direction again.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Mark and ReggieMcK both made it clear at the presser:
The salary cap will not get in the way of getting players we want on the team. There are enough deals to re-structure, and other creative ways of finding cap room.
Salary cap be damned!
February 8th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
For everyone that wants to sing Lynch to pair with DMac, you’re kinda missing one important factor: as a FA, Lynch will choose where he wants to play. A lot of that choice will be based on dollars and length of contract but the current backfield situation of the team he goes to will play into as well. He’s likely going to look for a team where he is the bonafide number 1 and won’t be in a platoon pairing with another top notch RB. He knows (or his agent will make sure that he knows) that the shelf life for a starting RB is short, so he needs to be in the right place for some big production for the next 2 years or so.
I think at worst, he would go to a team that like the Steelers or the Vikings where they have a legit star RB but with a big question mark over their health. DMac has a history of nagging injuries but nothing like Mendenhall or APs ACL issues that could mean that they’ll never be the same back that they once were.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
And Minnesota has a history of acquiring tough backups to AP.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
The issue with DMac’s injury history is not the severity of his injuries, it’s his slow healing ability. Injuries that put the average NFL player out of commission for a week or two tend to keep him down for much longer stretches. Whether it’s a work ethic thing with rehab, something genetic with how quickly their bodies rebuild tissue, a higher pain tolerance — or probably some combination of all of the above — DMac doesn’t seem to have that element.
Also, his two main injuries have been turf toe and a high ankle sprain. Each of those are known to be lingering types of injuries. There might be something about how he runs or plants that makes those types of things more likely or harder for him to recover from once he starts running again.
When I look at those two things, I don’t think that the odds are good that he can stay healthy for a full season as the primary back in a system. Maybe he is ultimately best suited for a Reggie Bush type role where he can be that extra little something that opposing defenses have to prepare for, either as a change of pace back, slot WR, or even Wildcat QB.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Knapp sux, zbs sux,Palmer forever sux,dmac was only dope when power blocking was brought to Oakland,Tarver is a 4cer btch like Knapp…reggie mckenzie is a bum and Dennis Allen is a loser…..6-7 wins max in 2012…..and fk Kell and his hideous wife’s sellout ass anniversary
February 8th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
49er btch coaches?….fk u Allen and Mckenzie….Raiders will still be undisciplined and soft
February 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Kell snitchin on doriangay’s punkass is classic….both are chumps….Kell is a sellout who sounds more white than Johnny Carson…and Dorian is some half breed pxssy who wants to talk about his dad’s irish descent as if that ever means schit….Both are some suckas….Drake lookin ass chumps that both don’t wanna see the B@uce abouth nathan!
February 8th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Kell snitchin on someone about being called -igga? Lol yet Kell has called me that repeatedly over the years…fkin hypocritical btch ass sellout UncleTom’s character having ass mthfka
February 8th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Kell snitchin on doriangay’s punkass is classic….both are chumps….Kell is a sellout who sounds more white than Johnny Carson…
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Kell is a sellout who sounds more white than Johnny Carson???? A hirsoshima blast!!!
February 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
“The issue with DMac’s injury history is not the severity of his injuries, it’s his slow healing ability.”
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Yes and no. He does stay our for long periods…but it hurts nearly as bad when he’s the focal point of the Offensive game plan, and then everything needs to change on the fly.
One of Hue’s worst failures as a HC was he couldn’t smoothly adjust out of his written game plan and into ad-lib mode while still keeping the appropriate tempo.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Kell a ladies man? Not with that Sesame Street Ernie ass nose he isn’t. Then you got that melted flat top fade with the Batman Symbol for a hairline? Plus that ugly btch of a wife for the last 27 years? What ladies? Hideous ones? Ladies man means you can nab all different types and races…..Kell how about you and black women? Not one sista in the Bay Area would ever want your corny lame nerdy sounding sorry ass
February 8th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Brien go ride your skateboard and listen to Kreayshawn.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Brien, post a picture of one of your ladies.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
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Master Beeecham Says:
Krappy, please explain how rattling off a boring list of cities is “defending yourself”
That’s just sad bragging, which is why we all make fun of you.
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Ummm, Beeechum troll –
Sad bragging is all you do in here. What you believe goes for humor is sad…
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You know, gotta go with HazeDaze on this one. The first forty times it was funny. The next 600 times………kinda lame.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Glenn….palmer sux and with Knapp’s offense it will be worse…watch blowouts on sidelines between Greg Crapp and Surfer boy this season….and now zbs is being brought back? Loser central….my god we are in trouble
February 8th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Brien, Kell posted a picture of his wife. Why won’t you post of picture of your girlfriend?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
MR….nice to see ya defend your Oreo ass hero FailKell…how’s sac treatin ya? Sorry MR bloggers who been to games see my peel action….you wanna see my bz report? Just go through the sorority houses in Columbia,Missouri like I did this weekend….don’t be mad at me because you still have you v-card
February 8th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Oooh, a troll looking for a tussle…
February 8th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Kreayshawn? Please that wannabe btch is your people….she hates white folks just like you….maybe you can lose your virginity to her while playing Gil Scott Heron
February 8th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Al Saunders just might have exactly what Knapp needs. Here’s hoping he keeps the pressure on Knapp, so Knapp keeps it on the Offense.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Nothing wrong with GSH now…
February 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Just what I thought, Brien. You have no girlfriend. Not that we didn’t know.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Then Kell proceeded to taking it down…what does that tell ya? He got roasted so bad becuz she looked like one of the dead people from that movie Contagion
February 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
“You have to come to the game to see my girlfriend”. ha ha ha ha!!!! What a liar.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Still, Brien, he posted a pic of his lady. A pic of a woman you don’t find attractive beats no pic at all. At least he proved he has a woman that gives it up to him on the reg. You haven’t. And never will.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Hahahahahahaha MR….you never have scored with a woman in your life…Kell may have a beastly looking wife but at least he isn’t a virgin….you admitted to us that you were…..remember you said you never had sex without a condom hahahahahahahahahahahahah
February 8th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Glenn….palmer sux and with Knapp’s offense it will be worse…watch blowouts on sidelines between Greg Crapp and Surfer boy this season….and now zbs is being brought back? Loser central….my god we are in trouble
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hahahha. Bri you are the best cause you understand this sh**. Naa. You are talking about a 10 year All Pro. Knapp could forward the crappiest play since Napolean went to Waterloo and I will bet Dennis will give Carson the option to check out of it. If you noticed, Palmer ran the offense between the 20’s. In the red zone, Palmer had to RUN the play. Janikowsky is in the Pro Bowl. what does that tell ya??
February 8th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Take your meds
February 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
MR sorry but fellow bloggers like dmac,dell,norco bob and hwnrdr already seen my bz action that updates my block report
February 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Brien, you have no girlfriend. Just as we all knew. Now resume running your trap. Let us know when you’re ready to post of pic of your lady, so we know you’re doing better than Kell.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Still, Brien, he posted a pic of his lady. A pic of a woman you don’t find attractive beats no pic at all.
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Uh, yeah, if you are not attracted to females. Here is a pic of my dog…………
February 8th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Hayes…no one said anything was wrong with him did I?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Everybody has a picture of their girlfriend, Brien. No picture, no girlfriend. Everyone knows that. So let’s see it. None of this, “uh, duh, so and so saw me at the game, and they know I have a girlfriend, ask them, come to a game, I’m hard core, duh!!”. No, Brien. Post a pic like Kell did. No pic, no lady. You know that. We know that. Come on, Brien. Nobody here’s that dumb.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
No you didn’t, Bri. Just saying what I feel about the man…
You gonna let MR beat on you like this?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
3rd party schit doesn’t fly, Brien. Either you have a picture, or your only lady is your hand.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
OK MR you’re not attracted to females, you’re not attacted to dogs, I don’t think I have any pics of dudes. Sorry….
February 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
MR – Bri might be a little off, but he’s not so stupid to post his info on a blog. KK wishes he never did!
February 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Hahahahahahaha better than Kell? A bum in a shack in the middle of the Oregon woods can do better than Kell….and you so quick to run to the rescue of Kell…..upset I made fun of your DL lover?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Seymour, you got a pic of your lady? Why do we have some sad, single, masturbating dweebs in here talking about someone else’s lady, have no pic of their own? At least Kell posted a pic. Something beats nothing. A pair of twos beats no hand at all. And you guys beat your meat. It’s pretty obvious.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
“Hahahahahahaha better than Kell? A bum in a shack in the middle of the Oregon woods can do better than Kell”
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Cue Alex7
February 8th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Mr couldn’t beat a drum or a bowl of eggs….Mr is constantlly scared to show up and is an admitted virgin….who is winning…Hayes we can take a survey from blog and see who wins that….thanks you have been shut down again
February 8th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Everybody has a picture of their girlfriend, Brien. No picture, no girlfriend.
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I got five hun says MR Is googling photos of Hawaiian tropic top male models.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Seymour, you got a pic of your lady?
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Of course I do. See Post #526
February 8th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Hayes, bottom line is, Kell did show a picture of his wife. MAybe he regrets it, lol. He still did it. He’s the only person on this blog who’s proven he has an ol’ lady. Brien sure hasn’t. And he never will. Because he doesn’t have a lady. With the time he spends in here?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Kreayshawn? Please that wannabe btch is your people….she hates white folks just like you….maybe you can lose your virginity to her while playing Gil Scott Heron
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Ouch. Checkmate.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
What are you talking about, Bri? MR’s smacking you around, and you’re claiming to “shut down” someone? Sounds kinda high school-y there, Bri.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
And Hayes…I’m not the one cross posting under ten screen names am I? That’s how much MR gets housed on here….at first it was me doing the damge now MR is just anEverlast punching bag for the whole blog
February 8th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
MR I will give it up to you. You are FREEAKAAAAY. Dudes are shi**ing in your face, and you love it.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Kell’s probably one of the few people who comments here that has a girlfriend/wife. Brien does NOT. MB does NOT. Seymour does NOT. Hayes definitely does NOT. That I know. Any of you want to prove to the contrary, let’s see a pic. Don’t want to send your info? Lol. If it’s worth arguing over, it’s worth proving your point. Otherwise just move on and talk football.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
THAT I can readily agree with, Brien.
MR is one of the blog’s most consistent trolls…
But, I can’t give him the satisfaction of calling him the #1 troll…that would be a little too much credit. So, he will always be the #2 troll.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Hayes u see Amrchair’s response? Thanks…you been shut down again…Hayes you are just bitter because I’ve destroyed you countless of times…and you’re a fkin hypocrite…you just talked about me not. Putting up personal schit abd now claiming MR is smackin me around? You make zero sense
February 8th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I don’t buy for one second the reason you masturbating chumps won’t show a picture of your lady has to do with not wanting to send info. Look at how much time you’ve already spent arguing about it. If it’s worth arguing about, it’s worth backing up with evidence. People know your info, so what? What do you have to hide?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Ah even semour Glenn agress…Hayes you are losing old man….now go to sleep and prepare to hit the Cracker Barrel tomorrow at 6am…you are dismissed
February 8th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
I don’t even know what you’re babbling about, Bri. If you’ve shut me down, how am I still posting? And what personal stuff have I put in here? Methinks you’re a little too stoned.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Uh oh, Brien and Hayes are having a lovers quarrel. Kell’s with is wife right now, btw.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
The Al Davis of the 1970s would have had nothing but contempt for what the Al Davis of the 2000s became.
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The 1970s didnt have multiple four receiver fronts, cover-2, Tom Brady, TE’s the size and speed of Jimmy Graham to deal with.
then again, in the 70s they could actually tackle, lead with the head, and mug receivers off the line.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Mr its not difficult to nab a woman…you make it seem as such…that’s like one of those virgin 9th graders buggin you about what its like to get to 2nd base lol
February 8th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Brien, like I said, prove it with a pic, or shut you lonely wanker.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I love to see you two go at it. MR tweeks you so easily, as does KK, and then the rest of us get to sit back and watch the show.
You’re not even aware when people bait you into responding, Bri — just so we can see what you come up with next. Sometimes worth it, but most of the time pretty lame…and almost always childish.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Al Saunders just might have exactly what Knapp needs. Here’s hoping he keeps the pressure on Knapp, so Knapp keeps it on the Offense.
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In other words a buffer between Carson Palmer and Knapp – I’m sure that conflict is coming 2 or 3 games into the season after a few stalled drives and FG ending possessions.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Nobody’s asking for your social security number, Brien. Just a pic of you and your old lady. Any pic. At least prove you have one woman out there that hooks up with you, as Kell already has.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Hayes….maybe you being 50 years past your prime you don’t understand slang anymore….you been shut down as you see folks other than I agreeing thaty again I’m whippin MR…you just have a bz like vendetta because I’ve alwats roasted your soft ass posts
February 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Sam — I can see exactly that. Knapp and Palmer are the same generation…and Saunders can be a great middle man.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
“Also, his two main injuries have been turf toe and a high ankle sprain. Each of those are known to be lingering types of injuries. There might be something about how he runs or plants that makes those types of things more likely or harder for him to recover from once he starts running again.
When I look at those two things, I don’t think that the odds are good that he can stay healthy for a full season as the primary back in a system. Maybe he is ultimately best suited for a Reggie Bush type role where he can be that extra little something that opposing defenses have to prepare for, either as a change of pace back, slot WR, or even Wildcat QB.”
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so much for my “blockbuster” trade to the Jets for the 16th overall pick scenario
February 8th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Brien, whipping me?
Brien: Kell’s wife’s ugly.
Me: Let’s see a pic of your wife, Brien
Brien: No. I don’t have a pic. Come to a game. I’m a player. I’m hard core. But I can’t prove it.
That’s whipping someone?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Sam — I can see exactly that. Knapp and Palmer are the same generation…and Saunders can be a great middle man.
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Good call, D.A. (long sigh of relief). LOL DeFillipo, Knapp and Gilmore – like a Kiffin reunion over here….
February 8th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Hayes you have been lame everytime you post on here…bloggers actually tailgate with me…..again you lose…..dummy I never mentioned MR tonight until he posted towards me…right or wrong? So its me that actually is in his head
February 8th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Saunders back eh? This is a signal from the front office that the staff is most likely going to tailor the offense around Palmer’s strengths and not force him into an offense that does not fit
February 8th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Wow Mr….a pic or a woman live and in the flesh with you that you can see live and direct? Hmmmmm which one is more real? Lol…..aced ya again…but keep trying…you been trying and failing for 4 years….why stop now?
February 8th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Yes, Bri — I admit…you’re outdoing MR in the insult department…quite an accomplishment. MR’s such a tough opponent to debate…and all you can do is threaten to whip his a$$. He’s even got you running around in circles to prove how masculine you are. Very grown-up of both of you. Sounds like 10th-grade.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Brien, Kell showed us a pic. Now you show a pic of your lady. Can’t clown someone else’s lady when you don’t have one.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Hahahahaha dumbass Hayes talking about Knapp and Palmer from same generation and schit but doesn’t acknowledge that they still don’t line up with each other as far as philosophy goes….typical dumb ass post from this lame brain..that’s like sayong a westcoast kid and down south kid are from the same lifestyles hahahahahahahahaha. Hayes even you amaze me with your idiocy
February 8th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
And actually…all of us “regulars” are in MR’s head. he couldn’t live without this blog. He loves it, and he loves every one of the blog participants. His psychological love affair with this place is truly a tragedy. You feed him quite well, Bri.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
MR not tough to debate….I’m undefeated vs him….ask entire blog….try again Hayes
February 8th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
What’s idiocy is that people don’t think Knapp will tailor plays to CPalmer’s abilities and strong points. Saunders will be Knapp’s right-hand man…and I feel pretty confident between the two of them they’ll be able to work out a great Offense.
February 8th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Hayes all of “us”….Hayes you aren’t apart of that….you are a soft ass poster who would be overshadowed in the toughness dept by girl scouts
February 9th, 2012 at 12:00 am
And 10th grade is jumping into someone else’s biz like you did Hayes….if me and MR go at it as usual what the fk do u need to drop your two cents in for? That’s high school to the max
February 9th, 2012 at 12:01 am
You don’t even know a thing about me, Bri. Not a thing. Except you know I take joy in watching people goad you into your famous flame-thrower put-downs. And for that, I bring your wrath. Oh my, so scary. The things I do for the blog!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Hayes you can’t be serious with the Knapp thing can you?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:03 am
Don’t have much choice, but to hope Knapp’s going to get the right O put in for CPalmer. We’re not gonna change anything…so we better start hoping he’s a different Knapp.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Hayes…things you do as in nothing….no one goads me…I’m built and wired like that…I think its time for your old ass to throw on the Vapor Rub and go to bed….you losing it old man
February 9th, 2012 at 12:06 am
Yeah u do have much choice….get a qb at least that fits what Knapp is all about…..no way is Palmer working with him. Sports is an ego driven biz and you know this as well…even when you started watching football in the 40s it was like that…coaches want svhit done their way…..Palmer and Knapp are a bad fit and you know it
February 9th, 2012 at 12:08 am
I am about to hit the sack, Bri, I gotta get up at 0530. It’s not too hard to see how you’re wired, either. If low-IQ guys like MR can get you going so easily.
I scrape the MR muck off as soon as he starts spewing it…where you invite more of it. Seems to me like you’ve got quite a good marriage going on there. Did the bride wear white?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:09 am
Oh yeah before I froget………RAIDERJHAWK….HOW BOUT THEM MIZZOU TIGERS BEATING THE KU BEAKERS IN THRILLING FASHION~ THE B@UCE WAS RIGHT THERE TO SEE IT TOO!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:11 am
CPalmer is a damn good QB…a Pro Bowler in the right system. There’s no way Palmer goes anywhere for less than a #1 and a #3 or #4
I don’t see that coming in, so I think we better get ready for the Knapp/Palmer show. As an ultimate lifetime fan, I can only hope they figure it out. Otherwise it’s going to be a long season.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:14 am
Hayes make sure you overdose on the sleep meds….hope u don’t wake up cuz the blog won’t miss you….you fool, you scrape nothing but butter off your crumbling teeth….people talking about IQ’s are generally mentally midgets…..Marriage? Nooooo way patna….Don’t wanna be miserable like the rest of ya….or most of y’all I should say…..A good marriage would be your casket 6 feet under….now off to bed you overage pansy
February 9th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Hayes its gonna be a long season….Palmer ain’t been good since 05….you must be hittin the opium again….Palmer will never be a PB again in any fkin system….he sux and sux bad…..Fkin pick 6 machine and Greg Crapp won’t change that….on that note…B@uce is outro
February 9th, 2012 at 12:18 am
You are such a tough guy, Bri. Always with the bad-boy name calling, too. Oooh, scary stuff!
And you don’t even know my age…pssst: not as old as KK.
Try to mellow out, Bri…
February 9th, 2012 at 12:23 am
It’s a great night to be a fan of the reloading (not rebuilding) Raiders. Isn’t it?!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:23 am
Man, not only is this blog bipolar, it’s tripolar sometimes.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:02 am
RaiderSam Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Sam — I can see exactly that. Knapp and Palmer are the same generation…and Saunders can be a great middle man.
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Good call, D.A. (long sigh of relief). LOL DeFillipo, Knapp and Gilmore – like a Kiffin reunion over here….
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well the Raiders do still need a TE coach, maybe Kiffin will want to come back
February 9th, 2012 at 2:21 am
We still need a D-line coach? Well, Fabio Capello is now available.
February 9th, 2012 at 4:19 am
So did we actually hire Holland, or is this still a rumor?
February 9th, 2012 at 5:30 am
So B@uce is not down with next season?
I guess we will have to find someone else to give us some stupid “Code Black” saying.
February 9th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What’s the matter JFB? You didn’t like the Code Black?
February 9th, 2012 at 5:55 am
JFB would have been wearing a Code Black shirt right now if we had a successful season… as it is, Code Black just gets washed away with the crappy season.
February 9th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Wow there was a lot of drivel in here last night…
February 9th, 2012 at 5:59 am
That’s true Bcz…We ordered the Code Black, someone ordered the Code Injury!
Sad really, but…let’s see what happens!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:02 am
CODE MORSE..SORRY,MORSE CODE…
February 9th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…
BTW: Yesterday I seen a post where you asked if I was still around, then you never answered me…
What’s up buddy?
February 9th, 2012 at 6:11 am
GOOD DAY HWNRDR.SORRY SIR,THINGS WENT BAT-SH&T CRAZY AT WORK.WILL CALL U WHEN I GET A CHANCE.WANTED 2 TOSS AROUND AN IDEA 4 PRKING NEXT YEAR..
February 9th, 2012 at 6:14 am
OK, sounds good!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:24 am
576.neilb Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:21 am
We still need a D-line coach? Well, Fabio Capello is now available.
Good Afternoon Neil! The England soccer coach?
February 9th, 2012 at 6:29 am
good morning AM crew!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Morning Rockstar!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:31 am
THERE IS LIFE IN PODUNK !!!GOOD DAY ROCKSTAR.YOUR CHOICE 4 D-LINE COACH ?
February 9th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Allen now is free to turn his attention toward finding a defensive line coach, linebackers coach and tight ends coach to round out his staff.
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Have any of these guys been hired yet?
any rumors floating around ???
February 9th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Only Johnny Holland for LBs is the rumor, and has been for a couple days I believe! Other than that, nothing!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:42 am
its gonna be a long season….
Palmer ain’t been good since 05….
Palmer will never be a PB again in any system….
he sux and sux bad…..
pick 6 machine
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wow, ROG!
Question to the semi-pro’s
is this what happens when you have a bad day at work, down a 12 pack and get on the computer?
February 9th, 2012 at 6:43 am
After downing a 12 pack, I guarantee you I won’t be on a computer! Brien is speaking his mind!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Johnny Holland for LBs is the rumor
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I like it!
other options include former DC’s Marshall & Bresnahan … as well as former position coaches Haluchak & Biekert
I’ll roll the dice with Johnny Boy since Duck thinks Jerry Glanville is too “Hollywood”
February 9th, 2012 at 6:47 am
YOUR CHOICE 4 D-LINE COACH ?
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Dirt Lot, tough call. let me do some research and get back to you
What do you think about the DL Coach & LB Coach from Stanford (Tarver connection) ???
February 9th, 2012 at 6:49 am
We ordered the Code Black, someone ordered the Code Injury!
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Hue ordered a Code Mani-Pedi and Rolando ordered a Code Gunshots!
“Code Yellow” for all the penalty flags?
February 9th, 2012 at 6:51 am
RRS + SnB + Dakota + ROG ordered a Code Fat Slob.
draft a legit nose tackle. or trade for one. or grab one in free agency. – just get one in here!
stuff the run = win the game
February 9th, 2012 at 6:52 am
597.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 6:49 am
We ordered the Code Black, someone ordered the Code Injury!
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Hue ordered a Code Mani-Pedi and Rolando ordered a Code Gunshots!
“Code Yellow” for all the penalty flags?
LOL, Good one!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:53 am
IF TARVER WANTS A STANFORD GUY AND ALLEN IS GOOD WITH IT,WHO AM I 2 ARGUE ?
February 9th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Speaking of a big fat slob as NT…what’s the info on that guy we had on our practice squad?
February 9th, 2012 at 6:54 am
good morning all !!!!
and happy fukin Thursday !!!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Hwnrdr.. i was never on the practice squad !!!
February 9th, 2012 at 6:58 am
i was never on the practice squad !!!
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LOL @ Mike
I think he’s referring to Travis Ivey
February 9th, 2012 at 7:02 am
whats up Rockstar
February 9th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Funny how Boston fans are just as bad, if not worse than SF fans…
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7553934/being-too-hard-patriots
“Tom Brady is a CLOWN,” tweeted Andrew Lucid (@TheFriarMan). “Selfish, choke artist, arrogant.”
“Can’t catch that lollipop? go focus on [your] mustache,” Sean Hayden (@Irishsph) tweeted of Welker.
“Fire Belichick, trade Brady, kill Welker. I’m out,” sent @VinnyDamato.
WOW! If that’s the case, Alameda would have burned down MANY years ago!!! Thank God we are the best fan base in the world!
February 9th, 2012 at 7:04 am
603.R8ER MIKE Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Hwnrdr.. i was never on the practice squad !!!
LOL…Good Morning Mike! Still waiting on that schedule to see if we’ll make it out to Baltimore this year!
February 9th, 2012 at 7:10 am
like i said .. if yall can make it , we will have to hook up !! and if you do make it stay away from the natty bos(national bohieman beer).. that sh1t is nasty !!!
February 9th, 2012 at 7:20 am
for all the Veejay fans:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/09/vincent-jackson-expected-to-hit-open-market/
February 9th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Howard Eskin of NBC 10 in Philadelphia reports that he ran into Plaxico Burress at the Super Bowl, and that Burress said he wants to play for the Eagles “badly.”
Eskin says that coach Andy Reid considered bringing Burress to Philly last season, and Eskin believes that the Eagles may make a run at him in 2012.
Burress currently remains under contract with the Jets. He’ll become a free agent on March 13.
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DeSean Jackson & Steve Smith are both UFA’s. who knows?
Maclin, Burress, Avant & Celek = not bad
February 9th, 2012 at 7:29 am
T.O. still thinks he can play in the NFL
Owens was introduced as a member of the Allen Wranglers of the Indoor Football League on Wednesday night, and he said it’s a step toward getting back into the NFL.
“I have no answers as for why I’m here,” Owens told the Star-Telegram. “I know God works in mysterious ways. It was an opportunity for myself and my family. It’s a way for myself to keep in shape. I haven’t retired from the NFL. I want to play a couple more years. I know I’m physically fit to play the game still.”
-PFT
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go get him, Reggie!
February 9th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Hope they hire Johnny Holland, former player, experienced LB coach and like Dennis Allen a former Teaxas A&M player so there’s the conection I guess.
Under Holland the Texans developed some quality LB’S DeMeco Ryans was a Pro Bowler and Brian Cushing was Rookie of the Year I think.
Some stuff on Holland when he was with Houston and Kubiak was worried he would leave to become A&M’s DC:
“Coach Gary Kubiak braced for what he worried might be the inevitable.
Mike Sherman, the Texans’ former assistant head coach/offense, had already taken the job as the head coach at Texas A&M.
Kubiak feared that linebackers coach Johnny Holland might follow suit to become the Aggies’ defensive coordinator.
Holland led the “Wrecking Crew” defense in tackles in each of his final three seasons in College Station before becoming a second-round draft pick by the Packers in 1987.
“I know how bad the Aggies wanted him and Sherman wanted him,” said Kubiak, himself an A&M product.
“But I know that Johnny likes the city of Houston and is excited about what we’re doing and the guys that he’s working with. I’m lucky I didn’t lose him.”
Holland, who is entering his third season with the Texans, has helped transform their linebacker corps into one of the strongest units on the team.
In his first season, he helped tutor DeMeco Ryans, who went on to AP Defensive Player of the Year honors.
A year later, Ryans was a Pro Bowl starter.
The idea of returning to his alma mater was tempting.
Holland, who has carved out his own niche with the Texans, has a slightly different philosophy than other position coaches.
He’s quieter, less outspoken. And he emphasizes unity in team meetings.
“We have a very good coach,” veteran linebacker Morlon Greenwood said.
“Everything stems down from him. I feel fortunate to have a coach like Johnny. He’s always positive, but at the same time, he knows how to motivate you.
“It’s tough for someone to always be positive all the time and still know how to motivate you. We all know during this game not everything is going to be positive. There’s going to be some negatives. To be able to stay positive all the time, I just want to commend him for that. I know that it’s all about his upbringing and what type of person and human being he is. He just makes you want to do better because you have a coach like Johnny Holland.”
Greenwood’s three most prolific seasons have come with the Texans — and two of those have been with Holland.
While neither the players nor Kubiak expect Holland to be a position coach for much longer, they appreciate each day they have with him.
* Kubiak said he won’t be surprised when Holland becomes a defensive coordinator in the NFL.
“That job is a multi-tasking job, and Johnny can do that; he’s a very smart guy,” Kubiak said. “So I think he’s going to get his opportunity.”
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This when he got fired along with most of the defensive staff after 2010:
- The biggest surprise was Holland, who was well-liked and respected by his players. Holland was a second-round draft choice who played for Green Bay, and a lot of the way he coached came from his experience as a player.
“I feel bad for Johnny,” Ryans said.
“He’s been my only coach. That surprised me a little bit when I heard it. I wasn’t expecting that. I was hoping he’d be back. He’s a great coach and a better person.”
After Sunday’s 34-17 victory over Jacksonville, outside linebacker Brian Cushing made an impassioned plea to keep Holland.
“I’m really disappointed,” Cushing said.
“The players play, not the coaches. I feel partially responsible. It really hurts.
“Coach Holland is a hell of a coach and an even better person. He treated us with respect. To hear that is very disappointing”.
February 9th, 2012 at 7:46 am
RR..really.. T.O. …really ??
February 9th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Mornin Nation!
February 9th, 2012 at 7:48 am
whats up brother ??
February 9th, 2012 at 7:52 am
J Holland sounds like the guy we need to coach up our sorry ass LB’s
well romac=sorry ass
February 9th, 2012 at 7:53 am
R8ER Mike,
RR likes TO & JLH, so I think he has a thing for nutty WRs.
I don’t want to sign a vet WR like Jackson or Bowe. I rather spend the money/ salary on fixing the defense.
February 9th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Man if they hired him then were set in that area!
February 9th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Romac is still 22, and he can turn it around. I have done some really stupid things when I was his age, but I wasn’t a bad person. He is young, rich, and he made a mistake. You People like Ray Lewis and he was charged with murder when he was younger.
February 9th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Zymurge Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
The issue with DMac’s injury history is not the severity of his injuries, it’s his slow healing ability. Injuries that put the average NFL player out of commission for a week or two tend to keep him down for much longer stretches. Whether it’s a work ethic thing with rehab, something genetic with how quickly their bodies rebuild tissue, a higher pain tolerance — or probably some combination of all of the above — DMac doesn’t seem to have that element.
Also, his two main injuries have been turf toe and a high ankle sprain. Each of those are known to be lingering types of injuries. There might be something about how he runs or plants that makes those types of things more likely or harder for him to recover from once he starts running again.
When I look at those two things, I don’t think that the odds are good that he can stay healthy for a full season as the primary back in a system. Maybe he is ultimately best suited for a Reggie Bush type role where he can be that extra little something that opposing defenses have to prepare for, either as a change of pace back, slot WR, or even Wildcat QB.
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Good post.
I’d take a 2nd and 4th for McFadden. Anything less wouldn’t be worthwhile for the Raiders, but a 2nd and 4th would go a long way to helping them replenish the draft. A 2nd round pick in particular would help them find a top LB or DL prospect to add some youth and talent to a defense low on both.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
If the Raiders do indeed intend to find a way out of Wimbley’s contract, I think McClain’s skill set would be perfect for the 4-3 SLB spot.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:08 am
2nd and a 4th?????
Not doing that deal. I’d rather give the new trainers a year to see if they can figure this guys feet out.
I think our biggest needs on defense are LB and CB. We need veterans in those positions. Add a veteran LB to McClain and Curry and that unit will be fine.
Move Wimbley to DE full time.
Plenty of vet corners on the market.
We can trade a player like Tommy Kelly for a 4th or better and move Houston into his spot. No need to get rid a DMac for just a 2nd rd pick.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I think McClain will be fine at MLB once we improve the scheme. I’m sure Allen and McKenzie will fix it. According to Allen and McKenzie, McClain has great talent.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:11 am
I wouldnt trade DMAC. He is by far our best player. Too bad he can’t stay healthy.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:12 am
According to Allen and McKenzie, McClain has great talent.
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What are they going to say at a press conference? That McClain sucks and they’d rather not play him if they don’t have to?
February 9th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Wimbley is not a full time DE. He well get abused by the OT, TE, etc.., and he will be a liability against the run.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:12 am
havt to say i agree with J Hill and Raider O on this one.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:14 am
YA,
He was a 1st RD pick for a reason. The Kid has talent.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:16 am
WOW!
Santonio Holmes is making 15 million next year for the Jets?????
How much are we paying Moore, lol?
What a bargain!
February 9th, 2012 at 8:17 am
J,
Wimbley should be used like V Miller. Rush the passer from the LB position, put him at DE in passing situations, and allow him to do what he does best. Set the edge as a Sam, and Rush the passer.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:18 am
I rather have Setmour over Holmes for 15 million/ Season.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Not doing that deal. I’d rather give the new trainers a year to see if they can figure this guys feet out.
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Unless the trainers can give McFadden new feet, you’re about to be disappointed.
The only place the FA LB class is deep is at MLB. So unless you want McClain replaced, a veteran LB isn’t going to have a huge impact here.
LOTS of talent in his draft’s LB class, though. Would be a shame for the Raiders to miss out on one or two because they’re waiting around for Curry, McClain, and Wimbley to all of a sudden become well-rounded, consistent players.
Wimbley at DE? Unless he, at this point in his career, learns to use more than one pass rush move, that’s not going to end well. Unfortunately he can’t play Brandyn Dombrowski every week.
Tommy Kelly can net a 3rd or a 4th. If the Raiders want a shot at a top LB or DL, they’ll need to get into the 2nd round. McFadden is their only viable chip to get there – and even a healthy McFadden isn’t going to get this team past elite defenses.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:19 am
If we were gonna retain Saunders, why hire a loser like Knapp anyway?
February 9th, 2012 at 8:20 am
DMAC didn’t have injury issues at college, so I will wait and see what the new staff can do with him.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:14 am
YA,
He was a 1st RD pick for a reason. The Kid has talent.
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Talent only gets you so far.
Poor instincts, lack of effort, inability to shed blocks? Well, we know what that gets you.
I wanted the Raiders to draft McClain. But his game didn’t translate to the NFL. Disappointing, but it happens.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:21 am
RDE are not big guys. They are pass rushing specialists.
Jarvis Moss is 260lbs
Trevor Scott is 255
Kam Wimbley is 255. He could easily put on 5-10 lbs if he were a full time DE.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:22 am
No way we dump a guy as talented as DMAC. No way. In 6 games he accounted for 768 yards and 5 TDs. That means he accounts for approximately 128 yards and a TD per game last season, and he was rushing at 5.4 yards per carry before the injury. He is only 24 years old, which means there is at least 5-6 years left before he really starts to decline. A second round pick? No effin way. Dmac is in the top 5 most explosive players in the NFL. Id rather have him for 10 games, than not at all.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I think Curry is the one who should be used like Von Miller.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:20 am
DMAC didn’t have injury issues at college, so I will wait and see what the new staff can do with him.
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And that means what, exactly?
He has injury issues NOW. And his injuries are exactly the type that are prone to flaring up again and again. And if he’s not effective playing hurt, as some players can, that doesn’t exactly help his cause.
Add to that the fact that he’s a running back – a position that isn’t exactly hard to find, and has an already-short shelf life – and I’m struggling to see why everyone is so attached to this player. Lots of talent, sure. But running backs don’t win championships for you in this league anymore.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:25 am
They are pass rushing specialists.
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This is what Wimbley isn’t. One pass rush move.
His greatest asset to the Raiders is the ability to move him around to create mismatches in various situations.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:25 am
637.bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:22 am
No way we dump a guy as talented as DMAC. No way. In 6 games he accounted for 768 yards and 5 TDs. That means he accounts for approximately 128 yards and a TD per game last season, and he was rushing at 5.4 yards per carry before the injury. He is only 24 years old, which means there is at least 5-6 years left before he really starts to decline. A second round pick? No effin way. Dmac is in the top 5 most explosive players in the NFL. Id rather have him for 10 games, than not at all.
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I agree, his talent is too explosive to take a chance and have him go to the donkeys or chargers…who dont like Matthews, or any were else in the AFC.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:27 am
and even a healthy McFadden isn’t going to get this team past elite defenses.
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Of course not. Not by himself. But his presence on the field makes you HAVE to plan for him, and with CP3 and our young WR core making strides, our passing game is a threat, and you simply cant ignore it and stack the box against DMAC.
If we were a 2-14 team in need of a major overhaul, I might agree with you, but we are not, and DMAC is going to be an integral part in getting us over the hump
February 9th, 2012 at 8:28 am
642.bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:27 am
and even a healthy McFadden isn’t going to get this team past elite defenses.
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Of course not. Not by himself. But his presence on the field makes you HAVE to plan for him, and with CP3 and our young WR core making strides, our passing game is a threat, and you simply cant ignore it and stack the box against DMAC.
If we were a 2-14 team in need of a major overhaul, I might agree with you, but we are not, and DMAC is going to be an integral part in getting us over the hump
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Plus, he’s only 24
February 9th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Adrian Peterson
Maurice Jones Drew
Chris Johnson
Elite running backs don’t translate to teams winning big games. Sorry guys.
If the Raiders can improve other areas of their team by trading McFadden, they should. It’s a team game. Having one running back who can shred non-elite defenses won’t help in the playoffs.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
A 24-year-old running back with bad feet might as well be 28. Trade him while he has some value. If (when?) he gets hurt again next season, he won’t have nearly as much value.
If you can’t justify re-signing the player when his contract is up, then get what you can for him while you can get it.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:32 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:21 am
RDE are not big guys. They are pass rushing specialists.
Jarvis Moss is 260lbs
Trevor Scott is 255
Kam Wimbley is 255. He could easily put on 5-10 lbs if he were a full time DE.
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There are reasons why Scott and Moss don’t start at DE. Only a few guys play well when they are that small. You do realize they have to play against a LT who outweighs him by at least 50 pounds the entire game.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Wimbley at DE? Unless he, at this point in his career, learns to use more than one pass rush move, that’s not going to end well. Unfortunately he can’t play Brandyn Dombrowski every week.
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Totally agree that Wimbley needs a couter move to that shoulder dip, lol.
Doesn’t change the fact that he is BY FAR our best pass rusher in terms of sacks and pressures.
I like Curry as a LB more than I like Wimbley when it comes down to it. And I like ShoNasty as a 4-3 RDE more than I like Wimbley their.
Maybe it’s an easy decision for the GM too in that Wimbley should be released based on that contract.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:33 am
644.YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Adrian Peterson
Maurice Jones Drew
Chris Johnson
Elite running backs don’t translate to teams winning big games. Sorry guys.
If the Raiders can improve other areas of their team by trading McFadden, they should. It’s a team game. Having one running back who can shred non-elite defenses won’t help in the playoffs.
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Like I said, I agree having one elite RB, and NO other real talent around him will get you no where. Those 3 guys you names are stuck being the ONLY real threats on their team. When you have an elite RB AND an above average passing game like we will have, THAT is balance. Balance DOES win championships.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:34 am
It’ll be interesting to see which contracts the Raiders negotiated with escape clauses. The Wimbley and Huff contracts are killer. Routt’s contract is bad, but at least he’s by far the best CB on the team. It’ll be interesting to see how they approach Seymour’s contract, too.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:35 am
645.YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
A 24-year-old running back with bad feet might as well be 28. Trade him while he has some value. If (when?) he gets hurt again next season, he won’t have nearly as much value.
If you can’t justify re-signing the player when his contract is up, then get what you can for him while you can get it.
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If you can’t obtain a top 7 pick for DMAC, there is no way im trading him, and I would have to still think twice on that.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:37 am
And that means what, exactly?
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It means a person should consider all the facts before making an important decision. If DMAC had health issues at college, then I would say that the guy has an injury problem, or he can handle the sport. When he never had injury issues at college, carried the ball for 3 years with no Injurues, and then he can stay healthy in the NFL should raise a few flags.
1- is the schedule? More games in the NFL.
2- is it the training, camp, etc…
3- is it the equipment?
Etc……
February 9th, 2012 at 8:37 am
What is Huffs contract? I cant see roto to look it up
February 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Moss was a 1st rd draft pick, O.
Moss and Scott don’t start because ShoNasty and Wimbley are better than they are.
I pretty sure we can look around the league and find the better RDEs in the league are around 265 to 270.
What’s Sugg’s measureables????
Pretty sure if we tell Wimbley you are a DE going forward, 265 would not be a problem for him.
And I agree he should be moved around on the Dline, YA. Just like JPP was moved to the inside against the Pats. We actually did that with Wimbley a few times this year and stunted off of that.
I’m really not worried about the Dline AT ALL.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am
637.bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:22 am
No way we dump a guy as talented as DMAC. No way. In 6 games he accounted for 768 yards and 5 TDs. That means he accounts for approximately 128 yards and a TD per game last season, and he was rushing at 5.4 yards per carry before the injury. He is only 24 years old, which means there is at least 5-6 years left before he really starts to decline. A second round pick? No effin way. Dmac is in the top 5 most explosive players in the NFL. Id rather have him for 10 games, than not at all.
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McFadden has gotten injured. But prior to this past injury, he played in 45 out of a possible 55 games!
RBs get injured.
He did not put up great numbers his first two years, but that blame gose squarely on Tom Cable for not giving him carries because he favored Justin Fargas, and only threw scraps to McFadden and Bush. No RB in the NFL excells with only 6-7 carries a game!
McFadden is the most explosive, talented player on the Raiders since Bo Jackson and some of you want to trade him for a 2nd round pick?
The reward of giving him another season or two to see what you have is so much more than getting a throw of the dice in a draft pick that may or may not turn out to be anything. We know that when McFadden plays he changes the entire offense. That is a talent worth waiting for.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Like I said, I agree having one elite RB, and NO other real talent around him will get you no where. Those 3 guys you names are stuck being the ONLY real threats on their team. When you have an elite RB AND an above average passing game like we will have, THAT is balance. Balance DOES win championships.
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Agreed.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:39 am
651.Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:37 am
And that means what, exactly?
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It means a person should consider all the facts before making an important decision. If DMAC had health issues at college, then I would say that the guy has an injury problem, or he can handle the sport. When he never had injury issues at college, carried the ball for 3 years with no Injurues, and then he can stay healthy in the NFL should raise a few flags.
1- is the schedule? More games in the NFL.
2- is it the training, camp, etc…
3- is it the equipment?
Etc……
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You are echoing my thoughts!
February 9th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Like I said, I agree having one elite RB, and NO other real talent around him will get you no where. Those 3 guys you names are stuck being the ONLY real threats on their team. When you have an elite RB AND an above average passing game like we will have, THAT is balance. Balance DOES win championships.
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Talent-wise, the Titans, Jags (pre-Gabbert), and Vikings are comparable.
And their elite running backs don’t have recurring injury issues.
When you’re already over the salary cap, have many other areas of the team that need improvement, and have a running back making $5 million when running backs are easy to find (a VERY talented group of RBs in the draft this year, even late in the draft), you need to do what’s right for the TEAM. And what’s right for the team is NOT waiting on one player to get healthy to the detriment to the rest of the team.
If the Raiders intend on leaning on McFadden to win games in 2012, they will not beat any elite teams.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Guys I read this post somewhat everyday its the only keeping me sain where im at. I just feel we have to tak the ride and yes there is a price to be paid when a team has been run the way it was by the older AL RIP. The lack of draft picks and yes I honestly believe Reggie will work the draft and get some picks and sign some free agents , find those diamonds in the rough like his rep says. We have to let this orgainzation grow and let this new coach learn and become what he can become. I feel in my heart we are gonna be back winning more superbowls just by Reggie alone and a defensive head coach.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Not going to trade a guy due to Injurues unless I know for a fact that the issues can’t be fixed. What if it’s a small issue like better shoes, or he needs to train less/ more?
You don’t trade the best player on your team for hopes & dreams because he was injured at 24?!?!
February 9th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Huff contracts are killer
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Disagree with you on Huff.
He got a concussion early and a leg injury after that this season.
Huff is our best DB. Really came on at the end of last year and deserved to be resigned. Became a student in the fil room and you could see it translating to his game.
Huff will be just fine.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:42 am
I would have to still think twice on that.
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Good football teams would not.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Huff is soft. Strong contract year among the rest of his mediocre-or-worse career. Huge mistake giving him big money.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:43 am
McFadden has gotten injured. But prior to this past injury, he played in 45 out of a possible 55 games!
RBs get injured.
He did not put up great numbers his first two years, but that blame gose squarely on Tom Cable for not giving him carries because he favored Justin Fargas, and only threw scraps to McFadden and Bush. No RB in the NFL excells with only 6-7 carries a game!
McFadden is the most explosive, talented player on the Raiders since Bo Jackson and some of you want to trade him for a 2nd round pick?
The reward of giving him another season or two to see what you have is so much more than getting a throw of the dice in a draft pick that may or may not turn out to be anything. We know that when McFadden plays he changes the entire offense. That is a talent worth waiting for.
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I don’t think I can effectively convey just how much I agree with this in print… lol
February 9th, 2012 at 8:44 am
D,
I’m glad you can understand that post with all the typos. My fat fingers need to go on a diet.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Huff is soft?????
I don’t think there is ONE “soft” player in the NFL.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I am done YA… lets move on. There is NO WAY, no evidence, no argument that you could possibly present to me that would make me agree that trading DMac is a smart move.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Huff missed his first game due to injury this year, how is that soft?
February 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
What are they going to say at a press conference? That McClain sucks and they’d rather not play him if they don’t have to?
The only place the FA LB class is deep is at MLB. So unless you want McClain replaced, a veteran LB isn’t going to have a huge impact here
Poor instincts, lack of effort, inability to shed blocks? Well, we know what that gets you.
I wanted the Raiders to draft McClain. But his game didn’t translate to the NFL. Disappointing, but it happens.
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YA gets it. always the voice of reason
February 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Is Ed Reed soft????
Why not, because he gets INTs?
If our front 7 gets better, you’re not mad at Huff for run defense.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:48 am
You don’t trade the best player on your team for hopes & dreams because he was injured at 24?!?!
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Injured at 21 and 22 as well. Didn’t even make it through his third season without getting hurt.
Are you familiar with the nature of foot injuries? Especially as they relate to running backs?
If the best player on your team is a part-time running back, your team is in trouble. Personally, I think that McFadden would be the best player on the team if and only if he played well in most of his career games. He hasn’t. You’re not looking at a player who will lead the team past elite (and even a few non-elite) defenses. Hasn’t happened thus far in his career, and there’s no reason to expect it to now.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
There is NO WAY, no evidence, no argument that you could possibly present to me that would make me agree that trading DMac is a smart move.
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For a #2, agreed.
If Cable could talk Petey into giving us their #1 and next year’s #1, and we take Lynch off their hands, then we can talk.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Ed Reed makes plays, and has for his entire career.
Huff made plays for one season. Soft against the run. Late in the passing game. Can’t press when moved to the CB spot. Can’t tackle.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
YA gets it. always the voice of reason
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So, Rock, you think trading Dmac for 2 is smart move then?
February 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Moss was a 1st rd draft pick, O.
Moss and Scott don’t start because ShoNasty and Wimbley are better than they are.
I pretty sure we can look around the league and find the better RDEs in the league are around 265 to 270.
What’s Sugg’s measureables????
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Wimbley was a 1st RD pick too. Groves was a high 2nd RD pick, but that doesn’t mean they can play DE full time. It’s not just about weight, but it has to do with the strength of the DE. Abraham is not that big, but plays well for ATL.
Suggs is a 3-4 OLB, so you can’t compare the 2. There is a difference between 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DEs. Just because a few players can play both, it doesn’t mean it’s the same thing.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
How can you expect to trade a guy if you bench him, talk bad about him or replace him?
you talk him up. promote him. make an excuse to bring in your own guy, perhaps a better system fit
and to show a little class, you STILL dont trash the guy after he’s landed on a different team. you thank him for his services and wish him well with his new squad
February 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
2 #1s and Lynch for Dmac? Ok… THAT I would agree to. I mean if you are straight going to fleece someone then fine, but I won’t agree to giving Dmac away for next to nothing.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Huff had no other suitors in free agency because other teams around the believed his game was softer than warm butter.
Al responded by signing the guy long-term, based on a single above-average season.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:53 am
I’m glad most of you are not involved in making decisions for the team.
You People want to trade every player on the roster, do you can enjoy watching the draft. LMAO
Yes, let’s trade:
McClain 22
DMAC 24
Ford 23-24
Houston 24
Erc…..
CRAZY!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Ed Reed makes plays, and has for his entire career.
Huff made plays for one season. Soft against the run
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Let’s focus on the soft label you threw out there.
I can’t think of ONE play Ed Reed has made IN RUN SUPPORT.
So if Huff steps his INT game up, do you drop the soft label?
Can’t tackle????
At all????
Or not good enough on those 80 yd runs we give up?
Like I said, if the front 7 plugs up some leaks like Baltimore’s does, we aren’t having this conversation.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Good teams build through the draft.
Bad teams hang onto non-contributing players, hoping they’ll show them something different next season.
The Raiders should trade McFadden and Kelly.
McClain already got his guaranteed money. Cutting him doesn’t help the Raiders much. Better to bench him.
Ford needs to stay healthy, but they’re not deep at WR and he seemed to have chemistry with Palmer. Making 4th round pick money, too. No reason to trade him.
Houston is the most consistent defensive player.
I’d appreciate it if you didn’t mischaracterize my argument. Intellectually dishonest.
February 9th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Huff had no other suitors in free agency
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Says who????
Because he agreed to resign with the Raiders BEFORE the lockout started, no one else wanted him?
Cmon!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Dakota Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am
McFadden has gotten injured. But prior to this past injury, he played in 45 out of a possible 55 games!
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Total and COMPLETE fkin LIE!
08 played 13 missed 3
09 played 12 missed 4
10 played 13 missed 3
THAT’S PLAYING 38 OUT OF 48!
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McFaDa00.htm
Are you counting college too? Exhibitions?
Ludicrous propaganda to prop up a blatant failure.
Stop blaming Cable. Fargas had much better YPC…FARGAS!…so how can you blame the coach?
Young American is spot on.
I told you people DMAC’s value would drop precipitously AND IT HAS! THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO GET ANYTHING FOR THE QUITTER!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Let’s focus on the soft label you threw out there.
I can’t think of ONE play Ed Reed has made IN RUN SUPPORT.
So if Huff steps his INT game up, do you drop the soft label?
Can’t tackle????
At all????
Or not good enough on those 80 yd runs we give up?
Like I said, if the front 7 plugs up some leaks like Baltimore’s does, we aren’t having this conversation.
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Tackles high, with his arms. Takes bad angles. Regularly whiffs in run support.
Can’t press WRs. Can’t cover TEs. Frequently trails in man coverage. Frequently late in zone coverage.
2010 was his only good season. For the money he’s making? The Raiders need him to play like that every season.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Good teams build through the draft.
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DMAC, Ford, McClain, Veldheer, Houston, and TP were drafted by the Raiders!!!
So we should trade our players who we drafted to draft new players (gamble) to build the team? Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Oh I see you added the 7 from 2011 before he got his hangnail. Twist it however you want Dakota, DMAC is a spoiled baby. Got paid and lost all motivation.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I do think that Dallas have to have been interested based on that Rob Ryan has worked with him in the past and that Huffy lives in D!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
you think trading Dmac for 2 is smart move then?
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BCZ,
No. I’m only trading Darren McFadden is somebody offers the farm. 2nd rounder and what else?
If YA thinks this is a good idea, I’m sure he has reasons for it. He’s banking on one or both of these things to be true. That DMAC isn’t a good fit for the zbs or that he’ll never be able to shake the injury bug. He’s reportedly 100% right now after missing half of last season with a midfoot sprain …
YA seems like he’s all about getting the most bang for your buck. I am too. The ZBS is very RB friendly. It made Justin Fargas a 1,000 yard rusher. Look at all the Donkey no names that had success it in. It made undrafted Arian Foster the most dynamic RB in the game. I can see reasons for trading McFadden, but I’m still against it.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I’d appreciate it if you didn’t mischaracterize my argument. Intellectually dishonest
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You do realize that there other posters here, and you people refers to more than one person. You PEOPLE.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
685.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Oh I see you added the 7 from 2011 before he got his hangnail. Twist it however you want Dakota, DMAC is a spoiled baby. Got paid and lost all motivation.
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So you agree that DMac played in 45 outta 55 games before this last injury?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:05 am
So we should trade our players who we drafted to draft new players (gamble) to build the team? Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.
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McFadden and Kelly are the players I advocate trading. Again, you’re creating a strawman argument. I can’t take you seriously if that’s what you’re going to do.
The “gamble” didn’t pay off with McFadden. Keeping McFadden is a gamble that will cost $11 million over the next two seasons, for a position that is easy to find and won’t help the Raiders overcome elite teams.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:05 am
676.bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:51 am
2 #1s and Lynch for Dmac? Ok… THAT I would agree to. I mean if you are straight going to fleece someone then fine, but I won’t agree to giving Dmac away for next to nothing.
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Other teams (most) around the league aren’t dumb. They aren’t gonna make a huge investment on a player showing a career long trend of not being able to get out on the field.
One season? Ok. It happens. Two? Hmmmm. FOUR? That’s a trend, and a risky investment.
Unless we basically give him away, we are stuck…hoping beyond hope, he can stay healthy.
I think there’s a way to use him in special situations and sparingly to get something productive out of him, but as an every down workhorse? No way.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:05 am
There is NO WAY IN HELL we trade Mcfadden.
i just got his jersey !!! lol lol lol
February 9th, 2012 at 9:06 am
2nd rounder and what else?
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High 1st rd pick and a player, at a MINIMUM!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Other teams (most) around the league aren’t dumb. They aren’t gonna make a huge investment on a player showing a career long trend of not being able to get out on the field.
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45 outta 55 games is not being able to get on the field?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
you think trading Dmac for 2 is smart move then?
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BCZ,
No. I’m only trading Darren McFadden is somebody offers the farm. 2nd rounder and what else?
If YA thinks this is a good idea, I’m sure he has reasons for it. He’s banking on one or both of these things to be true. That DMAC isn’t a good fit for the zbs or that he’ll never be able to shake the injury bug. He’s reportedly 100% right now after missing half of last season with a midfoot sprain …
YA seems like he’s all about getting the most bang for your buck. I am too. The ZBS is very RB friendly. It made Justin Fargas a 1,000 yard rusher. Look at all the Donkey no names that had success it in. It made undrafted Arian Foster the most dynamic RB in the game. I can see reasons for trading McFadden, but I’m still against it.
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Appreciate it, RRS.
There are definitely reasons to keep McFadden.
I’m just of the mind that those reasons don’t outweigh the alternative when a 2nd rounder and another mid-round pick are part of the equation.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Huff is ok, but we signed the wrong dude. Had a choice between Huff and Gholston, but Al went w/ his guy.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
The Jets are paying Santonio Holmes 15 million next season.
DMac for half the season at 5 million is a bargain.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Good morning DMAC
February 9th, 2012 at 9:10 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
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Well then……….
FK you guys 2 on this beautiful, sunny morning in the O-A-K
February 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Good morning DMAC
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My bad
I take it back
what up 666
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Gholston decided to go back to the 9rs.
His choice, not Al’s.
And remember how PATHETIC Tyvon Branch was last year?
Could have very well been Gholston coming in to play SS.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:12 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
The Jets are paying Santonio Holmes 15 million next season.
DMac for half the season at 5 million is a bargain.
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I don’t care about the Jet’s bad contracts. I just care about the Raiders’ bad contracts.
$5 million is too much for any running back, unless the rest of your team is lights-out.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:12 am
If we can’t get a 1st rounder for DMAC, than he needs to stay put. No way you trade him for anything less than that.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:13 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Gholston decided to go back to the 9rs.
His choice, not Al’s.
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How do you know J Heezy?
$ talks, BS walks!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:13 am
“2nd rounder and what else?
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High 1st rd pick and a player, at a MINIMUM!”
He is still injured as far as the other 31 teams are concerned he has not stepped on the field after his injury to show he is at 100%.
If it were mid season and he was running the ball well then sure we could get a 1st or high 2nd round pick but as it stands right now we would be lucky to get anything as he is not shown he is healed as there is no way for him to do that right now.
The smart thing to do is let him play out this season and hope he does well so next year if we lose him to free agency we can at least get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:13 am
YA,
Dude. Get off your high horse!
I know you said trade McFadden, but OTHERS here (i can’t tell if your realize there other posters here) have said trade Ford, TP, etc… Using the same rgument. I’m trying to make a point/ chat/ Etc with you AND OTHERS here?
If posting a few words from your posts (trying to reach and debate with other posters since they have said the same words) is the problem, then I will stop.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Assuming that trading McFadden for draft picks will land us a couple of good starting players is the mistake people make.
There’s no guarantee those picks will work out……50% of 1st round picks don’t live up to expectations, it’s been documented, 2nd rounders percentage has to be even lower.
Keep McFadden, difference makers are hard to find, think of the Marshall Faulk trade.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Classic night on this blog yesterday!
You have KK Munster pretending its his anniversary to a wife that left him 20 years ago. SeymourGlenn lying about not being 666 or OakGlenn. MR lashing out for other cross posters.
Only a mental hospital could provide better entertainment…
February 9th, 2012 at 9:16 am
When you start talking about trades, you have to have something in mind, right?
We need a NT, LB depth, and a veteran CB.
You don’t need to trade DMac to get those positions filled.
DMac’s 5 million dollar contract is WAY down the list of bad Raider contracts, imo.
Palmer’s making 12, Seymour 15, Wimbley 10. How much are we about to pay Branch?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Mike Huff is a good player, but Al Davis overpaid him, like most other guys on the roster.
Some Raider fans that claim he “can’t tackle” need to go back and re-watch a few games. I’m sure Jhill can put on a film clinic of sorts
He can’t play nickel corner in Al’s man2man system – but Stan Routt & CJ37 looked just as bad in that role
Huff is a free safety. RB’s are going to break some DB tackles – thats life in the NFL. Still, go watch the last Rams game and Huff was knocking the stuffing out of Steven Jackson in the open field, repeatedly
February 9th, 2012 at 9:17 am
J Heezy,
Gholston signed a 1 year contract. I’m sure Al could of convinced him to sign a fatter, longer contract.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
R8ER Mike,
LOL
I told you: you are a lucky man among other things. I own a #2 JaBustus Jersey. Authentic!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
We don’t “know”, DMac.
According to Huff, he had his contract offer from Al before the lockout started.
Gholston was being talked to after the lockout was over.
Remember the plan for Huff was to be the rover like Woodson, not the FS.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Some Raider fans that claim he “can’t tackle” need to go back and re-watch a few games. I’m sure Jhill can put on a film clinic of sorts
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Kinda pointless, RRS.
Back to when Huff was playing SS and 2nd on the team in tackles, folks still puttin that propoganda out there.
Ridiculous!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Marley Bob Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Assuming that trading McFadden for draft picks will land us a couple of good starting players is the mistake people make.
There’s no guarantee those picks will work out……50% of 1st round picks don’t live up to expectations, it’s been documented, 2nd rounders percentage has to be even lower.
Keep McFadden, difference makers are hard to find, think of the Marshall Faulk trade.
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Good teams don’t fear the draft.
If McFadden was a regular contributor, I’d agree. Especially if he had, at any point in his career, shown the ability to get the Raiders past teams like the Ravens, Steelers, Texans, Dolphins, Colts, Patriots… then sure.
But he hasn’t. As it is now, there are gaping holes in the defense. Plenty of running backs available in both FA and the draft – an easy position to stock up on.
If trading a player who doesn’t help you overcome elite teams gives you a CHANCE to add players who can keep opposing offense in check, a distinct weakness this Raiders team has, then you do it.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Dell,
Do you want to have a Huff Chat?
LOL
February 9th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Marley Bob Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Assuming that trading McFadden for draft picks will land us a couple of good starting players is the mistake people make.
There’s no guarantee those picks will work out……50% of 1st round picks don’t live up to expectations, it’s been documented, 2nd rounders percentage has to be even lower.
Keep McFadden, difference makers are hard to find, think of the Marshall Faulk trade.
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Yeah, you never know never know w/ the draft. I’ll take my chances w/ DMAC, because I know what he is going to give to the team when healthy.
An impact player who can put up 6 points on the board any time he touches the ball.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:26 am
An impact player who can put up 6 points on the board any time he touches the ball.
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Except when he’s hurt, or playing elite defenses.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:28 am
There are definitely reasons to keep McFadden.
I’m just of the mind that those reasons don’t outweigh the alternative when a 2nd rounder and another mid-round pick are part of the equation
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YA,
“another mid-round pick” = 3rd or 4th rounder in THIS year’s draft?
Interesting. Veteran players aren’t netting much in return anymore these days when it comes to draft day trades. I’ll give you that. What about a team like the Lions? they pick 23rd in each round. Overall picks might be #54 and roughly pick #87. two Top 100 guys
what starter quality RB would you draft and/or grab in FA?
If you think we should re-sign Mike Bush to starter money I’m gonna puke and ditch this whole RB arguement!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I’m cool w/ Huff as our starting FS.
I’m just not cool w/ his contract.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Are the Raiders going for 53 coaches or players? They are going to have a private coach for like every 3 players this year. Goodness.
Taxes Done.
School Loan Apps Done.
New Cupcake Place Next.
Find sons a job. Nextest.
Clean up Yard Sigh.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:30 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:26 am
An impact player who can put up 6 points on the board any time he touches the ball.
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Except when he’s hurt, or playing elite defenses.
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True, but how many elite D’s are their in the league, and better yet, how many will we play against?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:30 am
RR,
Excellent points. Huff’s salary is bigger than his play, and he did improve his tackling. I still think he can play NB in man coverage against big & slow WR (Colston) and fast TEs (Hernandez, Finley, etc..).
February 9th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Agreed DMAC…but I have this funny feeling, based on Reggie saying that he likes his picks that McFadden will get tangled out there like a carrot!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:33 am
723.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:30 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:26 am
An impact player who can put up 6 points on the board any time he touches the ball.
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Except when he’s hurt, or playing elite defenses.
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True, but how many elite D’s are their in the league, and better yet, how many will we play against?
This year we will be playing Pitt and Baltimore…on the flip side, we will also be playing Cam Newton and Drew Brees!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:34 am
I’ll reemphaisize BCZs point earlier.
Now that we have Palmer and the WRs to GO ALONG with McFadden, the get past elite defenses point is now an actual reality.
In past years, there has been noo passing game to compliment DMac, so yes he hasn’t been able to get past those teams.
I’m not so sure our passing game alone can get past “elite” defenses.
I’m pretty confident that the combination of DMac AND our passing game makes us one of the top offenses, if not THE top offense in the league.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
what starter quality RB would you draft and/or grab in FA?
If you think we should re-sign Mike Bush to starter money I’m gonna puke and ditch this whole RB arguement!
3rd or 4th rounder in THIS year’s draft?
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3rd or 4th, yes. The Raiders should obviously ask for more, but realistically a 2nd and a 3rd are the most they could expect in return for McFadden. I think a team with picks to burn would give up two 2nd rounders, but I’m not sure there are any teams who would be in the market for an RB and have that many picks to give up.
Not into Mike Bush at any more than $3 million per season, and even that’s a stretch.
Mike Tolbert and BenJarvus Green-Ellis would cost less than Bush inevitably will, and do similar things. Tolbert is more or less identical to Bush in my mind. Good receiver out of the backfield, isn’t a great runner off tackle but can get tough yards.
In the draft, I think the Raiders need to find a couple RBs to go along with Jones and whoever else is on the depth chart. Isaiah Pead would be a 4th round prospect. Bernard Pierce is a 5th/6th round prospect, and Terrance Ganaway would be 6th/7th/UDFA option.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:38 am
True, but how many elite D’s are their in the league, and better yet, how many will we play against?
This year we will be playing Pitt and Baltimore…on the flip side, we will also be playing Cam Newton and Drew Brees!
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RBs are taken out of the equation against high-scoring offenses.
The 2010 Texans and Colts, as well as the 2011 – not exactly lights-out defenses – shut down McFadden, as well, by beating the offensive line to the perimeter by using athletic DEs and OLBs. Shame, because even in that 2010 Colts game, the Raiders had a chance. The defense was doing a decent job at disrupting their passing game.
Ravens and Steelers are elite. Dolphins and Texans now, too.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I think DMac was being used wrong.
Or should I say, he full potential wasn’t being realized.
My man Armond strongly disagrees with me on this though.
I see DMac as a football player, not a RB. Thought Bush and DMac should have been played more together with McFadden being used as a receiver. McFadden against a LB or S is a mismatch ALL DAY LONG! If they bring in a corner for DMac, run the ball.
Hue wasn’t very creative AT ALL, imo. Risky does not equal creative.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’m not so sure our passing game alone can get past “elite” defenses.
I’m pretty confident that the combination of DMac AND our passing game makes us one of the top offenses, if not THE top offense in the league.
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What up Jhill? I agree 1000%…Had we not had the injuries we would have been top 5 O no questions asked…
February 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Except when he’s hurt, or playing elite defenses
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YA,
injuries happen, especially to RB’s (not just DMAC)
When you’re trying to POWER block with guys like Satele, Carlisle & Barnes you’re going to fail 9 times out of 10 … and Reece at FB?
come on, bro. There aren’t any games where Bush rumbled for 100+ when DMAC couldn’t have done the same (if healthy, our natural disclaimer)
February 9th, 2012 at 9:41 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I’m cool w/ Huff as our starting FS.
I’m just not cool w/ his contract.
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Same.
I don’t think Goldson would have been any better than Huff. Consistent pass rush made him look much, much better than he is.
Huff was the Raiders’ best option to re-sign last season. But it should have in no way been a long-term deal, much less one for $8 million a season.
Huff has A LOT of holes in his game, as I mentioned before. But until the Raiders are in position to make a splash in FA or use a high draft pick on a much better player, Huff will stick. I hope they can restructure that god awful contract.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:42 am
If we don’t sign Bush I see lions targetting him . We really should retain him cause he is valueable rb.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:38 am
True, but how many elite D’s are their in the league, and better yet, how many will we play against?
This year we will be playing Pitt and Baltimore…on the flip side, we will also be playing Cam Newton and Drew Brees!
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RBs are taken out of the equation against high-scoring offenses.
The 2010 Texans and Colts, as well as the 2011 – not exactly lights-out defenses – shut down McFadden, as well, by beating the offensive line to the perimeter by using athletic DEs and OLBs. Shame, because even in that 2010 Colts game, the Raiders had a chance. The defense was doing a decent job at disrupting their passing game.
Ravens and Steelers are elite. Dolphins and Texans now, too.
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Who was the QB then?
Who is the QB now?
Teams will have to respect our passing game now.
Makes a hella of difference.
No one got a chance to see CP and DMAC both on the field.
We saw what wonders DMAC did for Campbell.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Wassip The C?
Did you ever find out who that was a couple weeks ago who kept saying The C?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:45 am
I like huff but if we cut him I like tyvon at fs and mm34 at sd. Draft back ups chekwa could be nickleback.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:45 am
He is only 24 years old, which means there is at least 5-6 years left before he really starts to decline. A second round pick?
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Bcz,
With RB’s, it’s not about age, it is about touches.
5-6 years, means he will be in his 9th and 10th years, and most RB’s are out of the league at that time, not starting their decline.
I think we have 2-4 years of a 2010/2011 D-Mac, at best, before he is no longer the same type of back.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Except when he’s hurt, or playing elite defenses
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YA,
injuries happen, especially to RB’s (not just DMAC)
When you’re trying to POWER block with guys like Satele, Carlisle & Barnes you’re going to fail 9 times out of 10 … and Reece at FB?
come on, bro. There aren’t any games where Bush rumbled for 100+ when DMAC couldn’t have done the same (if healthy, our natural disclaimer)
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Agreed, but “if healthy” is exactly the thing. And as I said before, I don’t think any RB is worth $5 million a season. Especially if they would cost far more to re-sign when their contract is up.
RBs are there to be used up and discarded. Sucks, but that’s the business. A running back’s value is dramatically reduced when he’s a part-time player.
It’s why the Saints ditched Bush for Sproles, who is making $14 million over 4 years.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:46 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:41 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I’m cool w/ Huff as our starting FS.
I’m just not cool w/ his contract.
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Same.
I don’t think Goldson would have been any better than Huff. Consistent pass rush made him look much, much better than he is.
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This may be true, but Can we agree that Gholston is much more PHYSICAL than Huff?
Huff doesn’t put no fear in any WR’s.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:46 am
I don’t think we will trade a RB who can avg 5+ YPC, catch 50+, he is 24, and can score any time he touches the ball for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th…. I think if Reggie wanted to trade him, it would be to get a late 1st RD pick, which is high for a players who had a lot of Injurues in his short NFL career. The best option is to keep him for another year since he is under contract for two more, and see if he can stay health and produce, trade value, and explore other options like trading him for another player.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:47 am
731.Thec Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’m not so sure our passing game alone can get past “elite” defenses.
I’m pretty confident that the combination of DMac AND our passing game makes us one of the top offenses, if not THE top offense in the league.
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What up Jhill? I agree 1000%…Had we not had the injuries we would have been top 5 O no questions asked…
And that alone, I still say we would have been playing NE in the Divisional round had we made ONE stop this year! I believe we could have beaten a hobbling Ben and a back up Center!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
It’s why the Saints ditched Bush for Sproles, who is making $14 million over 4 years.
Wasn’t it that Bush did not want “The Reggie Bush” role, and Sproles said that he will?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
This may be true, but Can we agree that Gholston is much more PHYSICAL than Huff?
Huff doesn’t put no fear in any WR’s.
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Yes, agreed.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Wassip The C?
Did you ever find out who that was a couple weeks ago who kept saying The C?
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Norco
February 9th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Not into Mike Bush at any more than $3 million per season, and even that’s a stretch.
Mike Tolbert and BenJarvus Green-Ellis would cost less than Bush inevitably will, and do similar things. Tolbert is more or less identical to Bush in my mind. Good receiver out of the backfield, isn’t a great runner off tackle but can get tough yards.
In the draft, I think the Raiders need to find a couple RBs to go along with Jones and whoever else is on the depth chart. Isaiah Pead would be a 4th round prospect. Bernard Pierce is a 5th/6th round prospect, and Terrance Ganaway would be 6th/7th/UDFA option.
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this is why YA gets the big bucks!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:49 am
On we go…. Wideouts on the front burner! http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/02/more-on-free-agency-wide-receivers.html
February 9th, 2012 at 9:49 am
It’s about value.
Would I trade D-Mac for a 3rd rounder? Absolutely not!!
Would I trade D-Mac for a 2nd and 4th? I would consider it for sure.
Everything should be on the table!!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Wasn’t it that Bush did not want “The Reggie Bush” role, and Sproles said that he will?
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Could be. All I know is that there’s no reason to pay a guy the way Reggie Bush was being paid for the role he had in that offense, when a guy like Sproles (a more versatile player) will do the same thing for much cheaper.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
this team should spend ZERO picks on the offensive side of the the ball…
You need to fix the D side of the ball…
February 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Alright guys, time to go to work. Good chat as always.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
745.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Wassip The C?
Did you ever find out who that was a couple weeks ago who kept saying The C?
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Norco
The C is the man!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Huff was the Raiders’ best option to re-sign last season. But it should have in no way been a long-term deal, much less one for $8 million a season.
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I’m pretty sure Huff isn’t making 8 million a year. I think it is closer to $5 mill. Anyone want to post his #s?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:53 am
BTW, I still think the best option is to keep the best player on the team and not trade him for hopes and dreams (draft picks).
February 9th, 2012 at 9:53 am
749.YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Wasn’t it that Bush did not want “The Reggie Bush” role, and Sproles said that he will?
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Could be. All I know is that there’s no reason to pay a guy the way Reggie Bush was being paid for the role he had in that offense, when a guy like Sproles (a more versatile player) will do the same thing for much cheaper.
Agreed! No situational players shoudl be paid ridiculous bucks, unless that said player is feared every time he comes in!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Darren McFadden has been our “best player” one out of 4 years he has been with us, and that was in 2010.
Why do we keep calling him our “best player”? We can HOPE he is our best player next year, but I would be willing to be he won’t be.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:53 am
BTW, I still think the best option is to keep the best player on the team and not trade him for hopes and dreams (draft picks).
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Exactly!
Even the best GM and scouts whiff sometimes.
February 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Wassip The C?
Did you ever find out who that was a couple weeks ago who kept saying The C?
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Yeah, I knew who it was.. Someone I met at a game…Real Good people, a true Raider…
February 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
The draft is the biggest “crap shoot”! No one has been able to roll “7s” all the time!
February 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Vegas,
Who’s are best player on the team?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Vegas Radown for this false hope in this lame regime who will still produce pxssy ass footballider…..stupid saying? You have been removed from NorCal so long you have lost all your cool points buddy….. No I’m not down with 49er flunkies as coaches, I’m not down for the pxssy ass svelte zbs that highlights chumps ass olinemen like your hero Stooper Carlisle, I’m not down for sorry ass Carson Palmer in the WCO when he isn’t that type of qb, I’m not down watching Dmac in a blocking scheme that doesn’t take full advantage of his skills, and I’m especially not down
February 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Hwnrdr, whats happening Brother????
February 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
BTW: This convo came up during teh playoffs…
Are we all still down to taigate for an A’s game this year?
February 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Who’s are best player on the team?
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Last year?
I say Seabass, in all seriousness.
2012?
Carson Palmer
February 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
“elite defenses” get the title ELITE when they shut down running backs like a healthy Darren McFadden!
Carson Palmer at QB makes a RB’s life much easier. and an OC’s job much easier as well. Teams aren’t able to stack the box and force a QB to beat them – because he will
the days of Russell, Gradkowski, Campbell & Boller at QB are over. The Raiders will have the #1 Rushing offense in 2012
if Darren McFadden is getting shut down by Bottom 10 or 15 run defenses on a regular basis, he should just call it a career – zero trade value. zero suitors in free agency. that clearly isn’t happening
Most people wrote off Chaz Schilens, why? Because of his injury history, not his potential or production (when healthy). What happened? He was healthy & active for 15 games this year. He did it. Results = He wasn’t quite the player we all hoped he would be. The worst WR on the roster not named Housh. That wont be the case with DMAC, either
February 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
762.Thec Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Hwnrdr, whats happening Brother????
Oh, you know…woke up this morning! Must be doing something right! What’s up with you, bro?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
GOD DAMMIT I HATE THIS NEW ANDROID FKIN PHONE! Always fkin up the damn post…….fkin lame…I’m hatin this schit….I’ll take my old phone fkin back right now!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
McFadden proved (when healthy) that he is a top 5 talent at RB. The guy is fast, can catch, he is young (24), and has a great stiff arm.
Would a team trade their best player?
would the Vikings/ Bears/ Eagles/ Titans trade their Elite RBs for a 2nd & 4th RD picks?
I don’t think so.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Damn! Schit is getting crazy!
You guys heard thieves are now stealing used grease from restaurants for $$$$?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
756.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Darren McFadden has been our “best player” one out of 4 years he has been with us, and that was in 2010.
Why do we keep calling him our “best player”? We can HOPE he is our best player next year, but I would be willing to be he won’t be.
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For the 6 games he was on the field, Dmac was far and away our best player. 5.4ypc average. He was on pace for over 1700 yards rushing and probably another 5-600 receiving which would have earned him the rushing title this year.
Yeah… he sucks. Trade the bum.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
GOD DAMMIT I HATE THIS NEW ANDROID FKIN PHONE! Always fkin up the damn post…….fkin lame…I’m hatin this schit….I’ll take my old phone fkin back right now!
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I’ll shoot you dub for it.
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
stupid saying? You have been removed from NorCal so long you have lost all your cool points buddy
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Maybe, but a cheezy tag line, sounds kind of LA-ish to me.
I’m not with it.
Raider football, that’s what I call it.
I’m not “all in”, geeked, or ready to build a code black bully.
I just want Raider football, which used to be all about “Just Win Baby” but apparently that isn’t true anymore either.
It is now “Just Win Baby”, as long as the former coaches never coached in SF, the QB throws too many picks (hello Plunkett?????), and we aren’t diverse in our blocking schemes.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
With these androids you will be typing and then the fkin sentence cuts some fkin place else….God dammit I’m ready to shoot who created these phones!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I forgot about my man Foster.
Top 6 talent!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
682.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Dakota Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am
McFadden has gotten injured. But prior to this past injury, he played in 45 out of a possible 55 games!
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Total and COMPLETE fkin LIE!
08 played 13 missed 3
09 played 12 missed 4
10 played 13 missed 3
THAT’S PLAYING 38 OUT OF 48!
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McFaDa00.htm
Are you counting college too? Exhibitions?
Ludicrous propaganda to prop up a blatant failure.
Stop blaming Cable. Fargas had much better YPC…FARGAS!…so how can you blame the coach?
Young American is spot on.
I told you people DMAC’s value would drop precipitously AND IT HAS! THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO GET ANYTHING FOR THE QUITTER!
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Bo, I am going to need a better retraction than this. You were very hurtful
685.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Oh I see you added the 7 from 2011 before he got his hangnail. Twist it however you want Dakota, DMAC is a spoiled baby. Got paid and lost all motivation.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
He was healthy & active for 15 games this year. He did it. Results = He wasn’t quite the player we all hoped he would be. The worst WR on the roster not named Housh. That wont be the case with DMAC, either
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Chaz is our best red zone receiver. He doesn’t have the rapport with the qbs because he has been injured so much, if he is still here next year he will be much better. Can’t do much when you don’t get any looks.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
“Risky does not equal creative.” – well said
February 9th, 2012 at 10:05 am
DMAC,
And what do they use it for?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
773.Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
With these androids you will be typing and then the fkin sentence cuts some fkin place else….God dammit I’m ready to shoot who created these phones!
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Its the user. I have had an Android for almost 3 years since they came out and dont have any issues like that.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
773.Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
With these androids you will be typing and then the fkin sentence cuts some fkin place else….God dammit I’m ready to shoot who created these phones!
YUP!!! ANd that stupid auto correct!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
RRS…please u been stuck in podunk so long you are confused as well….CODE BLACK is not LAish at all….you can even explain yourself as to why it would be…you may not like it but you surely couldn’t fully explain yourself on that….just like you can’t explain your obessesion with that closet case vtch TO ever playing here….he is a fkin loser and will commit suicide this year…..bank on it!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
It’s not the arrow it’s the Indian
February 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
YUP!!! ANd that stupid auto correct!
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turn it off then…
February 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:05 am
DMAC,
And what do they use it for?
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People will steal it here and there and use it for their own vehicles, diesels converted to burn vegetable oil.
Thats what I read.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
YUP!!! ANd that stupid auto correct!
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All touch screen phones have auto-correct… it is certainly not exclusive to the Android OS.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Always fkin up the damn
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Shoulda got the droid 3 with the keyboard!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
If you don’t like auto correct, turn it off.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
“McFadden has gotten injured. But prior to this past injury, he played in 45 out of a possible 55 games!”
Yeah but he has only started 32 times out of 64 games.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
783.bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
YUP!!! ANd that stupid auto correct!
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turn it off then…
LOL…geez…
I have gotten around it…Been using HTC Evo for awhile now!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Bcz…..not its not…I had this since late december…..good look at post….the last part when I said I’m not especially down all of a sudden goes to the fkin first line of the post….don’t fkin say its fkin me! My fkin hands didn’t touch that damn screen….it does it on emails and texts all fkin day long
February 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Theres nothing like a Dell desktop at work.
Sorry fellas.
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
What phone do you have, B?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
I’ll shoot you dub for it.
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LOL!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
If you don’t like auto correct, turn it off.
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LOL!
There’s a thought.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
So Vegas Raider you mean the Indians on the pxssy ass zbs that will be getting punked this upcoming season? Stooper Carlisle= poster child of garbage oline play
February 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:11 am
I’ll shoot you dub for it.
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LOL!
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J Heezy,
I work, but I’m a part time hustler as well.
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Fact:
Prior to this injury McFadden played in 45 of 55 games.
Fact:
Prior to this injury, McFadden played in 20 of 23 game, during which time he ran for 1771 yards, with an average of 5.32 yards per carry, 11 TDs (only low due to bones being thrown to Bush) plus another 66 receptions and 661 yards receiving and 5 TDs through the air….
….and you want to trade that for a 2nd rounder? lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:14 am
DMAC,
Hippies are stealing grease?! They are hopped up on THC.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:14 am
It’s not the arrow it’s the Indian
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LMFAO!
The problem is certainly somewhere between the seat and the keyboard!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Dmac…..exactly…….sometimes the old fashion way is the best
February 9th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Your THC!
LMAO
February 9th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I work, but I’m a part time hustler as well.
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My man!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:16 am
CODE BLACK is not LAish at all….you can even explain yourself as to why it would be…you may not like it but you surely couldn’t fully explain yourself on that
***
ROG,
you must be confusing me with somebody else!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Theres nothing like a Dell desktop at work.
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Ipad on the golf course?????
February 9th, 2012 at 10:17 am
“….and you want to trade that for a 2nd rounder? lol”
It does not make any sense at all to trade him he is in a contract year and this year we should get the most production out of him because of this.
Let him have a big year next year and if he leaves via free agency we get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him.
That is how you get the most value out of McFadden.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Jhill….the problem is Karl Malone let you down and folled into thinking Rogaine was for black men thus making your hairline moonwalk with backwards with Olympic speed
February 9th, 2012 at 10:17 am
IPad while being out and about?????
Unplug from the damn matirx man!!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:18 am
The problem is certainly somewhere between the seat and the keyboard!
__________________________________________________
PEBKAC
February 9th, 2012 at 10:19 am
thinking Rogaine was for black men thus making your hairline moonwalk with backwards with Olympic speed
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Look here Samson!
Hair is overrated.
One less chore.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:20 am
DMAC,
I agree. I miss being employed to chat, eat, smoke, play cards, etc…
The ultimate hustle.
LOL
February 9th, 2012 at 10:21 am
807.J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:17 am
IPad while being out and about?????
Unplug from the damn matirx man!!!!
Everyone is mobile these days!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:21 am
790.Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Bcz…..not its not…I had this since late december…..good look at post….the last part when I said I’m not especially down all of a sudden goes to the fkin first line of the post….don’t fkin say its fkin me! My fkin hands didn’t touch that damn screen….it does it on emails and texts all fkin day long
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I know. Its never the user. I sold phones for a lot of years and it was NEVEr the users fault.
If the phone is performing any actions without you touching the screen, then you have a defective handset. You need to bring it in for service, or replacement.
Please be aware that the touchscreens are capacitive, they dont actually respond to ‘touch’ they respond to the electrical charge from your fingers, they also work better with very light touches than by pushing harder which is a mistake people often make.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
So how about them Ws????
February 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
chatting at the office is not frowned upon in hi-tech they expect everyone to be online.
Not that I know first hand someone told me…
February 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Lmao Jhill….good one on the Samson thing!………I think TV one is about to do an “Unsung” episode on your hair in the late 80s and early 90s
February 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
So Vegas Raider you mean the Indians on the pxssy ass zbs that will be getting punked this upcoming season?
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You do realize, we ran A TON of ZBS the last two years, right?
RIGHT????????
February 9th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Everyone is mobile these days!
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Well DMac seems to be stuck behind a damn desk.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
So how about them Ws????
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Our annually January playoff push failed, lol.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:14 am
DMAC,
Hippies are stealing grease?! They are hopped up on THC.
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????
I don’t see the connection?
Lace me w/ some game.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I know. Its never the user. I sold phones for a lot of years and it was NEVEr the users fault.
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“At one time or another, the average computer savvy geek has been drafted to the stressful and low-paying ranks of “Tech Support”. All of us at ThinkGeek have done it in one form or another. Whether due to job description or a family favor, sometimes you just have to help out a computer user in need. Unfortunately amongst the throngs of the clueless, there’s bound to be a handful that stand out for their phenomenal lack of brain cells and inability to listen and follow directions. When one of these lusers needs help, be prepared to work through your lunch break, bang your head on the table a few times, and hit the mute button on the phone and scream.
When confronted with such a vacuum in the universe of clue, the only way to classify the problem is PEBKAC. Don’t know what PEBKAC is? You may be experiencing an ID-ten-T error. But because we’re feeling generous today, we’ll help you out. PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair.”
Help Desk cats were some of my biggest customers. Used to hear them clown folks ALL DAY LONG, lol!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Zbs was barely used last year VR…..and 2010 it was used half of the way….the power scheme is what made dmac a better rb…..zbs is btch schitand the line will be softer than medicated cotton in 2012….name last zbs to win titlewithout cheating I.e. Denver……woooo I’ll wait….cuz that schit won’t win a title ever
February 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I think TV one is about to do an “Unsung” episode on your hair in the late 80s and early 90s
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LOL!
PPPHHUUGGGGG UUUUUUU NNAAAGGGAA!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
So how about them Ws????
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“Baaaaaaaalllllllllin!!!!!!!!!”
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
You’re right! Denver was the last one…glad you put cheating in there as well! Many are still in denial!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Democrats protecting drug users and the uneducated.
mope & change
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Democrats, however, rejected efforts by House conservatives to require beneficiaries to enroll in GED classes or permit states to require drug tests as conditions of getting unemployment.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I feel good about the W’s acrually….everyone sees Monta has gotta go and that he isn’t all that
February 9th, 2012 at 10:30 am
And all you have to do is go back 4 years for the last team that did that!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DMAC,
Hippies want to save the environment, they own cars that run on grease/ veg oil/ etc, and they smoke weed.
Hippies!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
828.Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DMAC,
Hippies want to save the environment, they own cars that run on grease/ veg oil/ etc, and they smoke weed.
Hippies!
LOL, and I thought we will have plutonium by now!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
I got slammed on here…in bars…all over about Monta and the fact he is a sixth man…..time to go
February 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
So how about them Ws????
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Our annually January playoff push failed, lol.
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Amazing to me that that roster is not being addressed.
NO was trying to give Chris Kaman away. Why not try and bring him over?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:32 am
dont feel alone there DMAC… i am stuck behind a desk too !!
and yes used grease is burned in converted diesel engines… here in the east they are called greasel engines.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Monta has gotta go
***
Does he want to play for the “Lake Show” ?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
I would trade Monta for a big man but nobody is going to do that trade so we are stuck with him.
6th man ?
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
i smoke weed.. am i a hippie ???
February 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Now the W’s will get a good big man at center hopefully….get Anthony Davis from Kentucky….that guy has major upside….Warriors need more size to deal with the West….can monta and let Kaly develop…..send Dorrel Wright outta town
February 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I feel good about the W’s acrually….everyone sees Monta has gotta go and that he isn’t all that
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I’m done w/ monta
See ya!!!
I think Thompson is the truth!
The kid is going to ball for years
++++++ he play some D! (Damn it)
February 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Jhill…I dunno know why Kaman isn’t in Oakland right now….time to play real basketball
February 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
The thing that boggles me is that The W’s have always needed a big man to compliment the fast pace players that they always had…why hasn’t it never been addressed? Just asking guys!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:36 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
i smoke weed.. am i a hippie ???
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Maybe a hipster???
Schit I don’t know?
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I got slammed on here…in bars…all over about Monta and the fact he is a sixth man…..time to go
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I agreed with you that one of those 2 needed to go.
Can’t compete in the West with that backcourt and no legit big man in the paint.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Jhill…I dunno know why Kaman isn’t in Oakland right now….time to play real basketball
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N-O wants waaaay 2 much, I think.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Raiders need to be focusing on the air attack more than the running game. We know they can run the ball. The super bowl is won through the air.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Jhill don’t use n word Kell will Sammy the Bull you and run to Jon Becker
February 9th, 2012 at 10:38 am
R8ER Mike,
Among other things. What’s wrong with being a hippie?
Btw, I some too.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Jhill don’t use n word Kell will Sammy the Bull you and run to Jon Becker
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Yeah.
These dudes are worst than the Twitter patrol.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
hell i thought i was just a good ole southern maryland redneck !! beer drinker dope smoker hard partyer!!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Btw, I smoke* too
February 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Jhill….clueless is why warriors and their fans think you can win without playing real basketball….we still living off 0z….damn shame
February 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
833.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Monta has gotta go
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Does he want to play for the “Lake Show” ?
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Monta and your #1 for Gasol might get it done.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
i am picking up what you are putting down Raider O .
February 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
“Smoking on purple ease my miiiiiind” “Its the schit that we get high 2″
You gotta slap the Lil Boosie, when burning one every now and then.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Jhill….clueless is why warriors and their fans think you can win without playing real basketball….we still living off 0z….damn shame
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But I thought you told me Ws fans were the most knowledgeable fans in the league?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
lol DMAC !!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
The fked up part about it is the Dubs lose now, and some games are boring as fk.
At least w/ Nellie games were always entertaining.
“It’s a great time out!”
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
788.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Yeah but he has only started 32 times out of 64 games.
+++++++++++++++
A lot of silly schyt went on when Cable was running the offense. Scripted plays for Justin Fargas to begin the game? ReallY?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
R8ER Mike,
I know CEOs, CFOs, business owners, etc.. That smoke weed, so I wasn’t calling everyone that smoked a hippie.
I smoke. I’m not a hippie.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Jhill….clueless is why warriors and their fans think you can win without playing real basketball….we still living off 0z….damn shame
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But I thought you told me Ws fans were the most knowledgeable fans in the league?
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W/ the exception of B and myself, of course.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Gasoft would like bay area I think….he use to playing with a weak ass team when his career first started
February 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
What was Mark Jackson supposed to do?
Rookie HC with ZERO coaching experience.
Bad move!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Do you guys go to W’s games. DMAC, B?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
R8ER Mike,
I know CEOs, CFOs, business owners, etc.. That smoke weed, so I wasn’t calling everyone that smoked a hippie.
I smoke. I’m not a hippie.
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I know nuns that smoke weed.
Naw, I just made that one up.
lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Wait sorry, I know B was there Christmas…
February 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
R8ER Mike,
I know CEOs, CFOs, business owners, etc.. That smoke weed
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Don’t get why you won’t open a dispensary.
Hire a monkey to do those tedius jobs you despise!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Do you guys go to W’s games. DMAC, B?
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Haven’t been this year. I might go a hand full of times all season.
I get lazy in the evening and just watch it on tv.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:47 am
They are jhill….just blinded with the monta thing….understand between 93-94 and 06-07 it was brutal basketball wise
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
859.Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Gasoft would like bay area I think….he use to playing with a weak ass team when his career first started
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Were you at the Mizzu-Kansas game Brien? I was pulling for Mizzu for you….never fun to travel to a game and watch them lose.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
The Warriors should deal Monte to the highest bidder and get an athletic BIG that can play the 4 or 5.
It’s evident, that they are not going anywhere…..AGAIN…with both on the roster.
I would like my Lake Show to deal Gasol for Monte. It would be a fair deal for both teams and it solves the needs of both teams as well.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
865.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Do you guys go to W’s games. DMAC, B?
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Haven’t been this year. I might go a hand full of times all season.
I get lazy in the evening and just watch it on tv.
Trying to hit up at least a game this year! They are always fun to watch!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Curry, Thompson, Artest, Gasoft, Kaman.
Lee, Wright, Biendris, Udoh off the bench.
That is a PLAYOFF TEAM all day long!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
90% of Raider fans smoke weed its ingrained in them from day one!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
dont see anything wrong with being a hippie, peace love and smoke dope !!! lol lol
you gotta remember i grew up in the late 60s, and 70s
knew lots of hippies. kinda looked up to them, till i found out they didnt have money a job or a house. just a cool tricked chevy van that they parked DOWN BY THE RIVER !!!!! LOL LOL LOL
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
R8ER Mike,
I know CEOs, CFOs, business owners, etc.. That smoke weed
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Don’t get why you won’t open a dispensary.
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I wish.
Feds are starting to crack down on them.
Black market will be in full effect.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
R8ER Mike,
You are right. I should have said I don’t know, not among other things.
I apologize.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Jhill….w’s fans most definitely above laker fans in bball knowledge….you even know this…..only nose bleeds in LA know the game…..don’t worry jhill I know you bandwagoners in LA rocking ya LOB city shirts now lol
February 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Got some cool seats for a good price for the W’s vs Clipps game on the 20th in Sec 122.
Gotta see Beast Griffin in live action!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:51 am
NBA talk?
Go East!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
877.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:51 am
NBA talk?
Go East!
____________________
Where is Allen Iverson playing this year Rock?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
You guys down to hit up a game? It would be ideal for a weekend game, but whatevers…
February 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
dont see anything wrong with being a hippie, peace love and smoke dope !!! lol lol
you gotta remember i grew up in the late 60s, and 70s
knew lots of hippies. kinda looked up to them, till i found out they didnt have money a job or a house. just a cool tricked chevy van that they parked DOWN BY THE RIVER !!!!! LOL LOL LOL
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LMAO, 2 fk’n funny.
I got a cousin who was lost to the Occupy Potheads here in Oakland.
True story man, I swear. He said he be chilling up in trees and schit, smoking ounces w/ his new buddies.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
You guys down to hit up a game? It would be ideal for a weekend game, but whatevers…
=====
I aint trippin
Let me know
February 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
no need to apolorize Raider O .. no harm no foul brother !!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Dakota….hell yeah I was there….going crazy!……Marcus Denmon balled out….I knew he was….nite before at the house…its midnight and he bust out the room holding scouting report yelling” Fk Kansas they not all that and we gonna smoke them btches”…..well you saw his will to win….Denmon a gangsta and cousin played well too….best hoop game I ever been to…met jay bilas digger phelps and I told dickie v I don’t like him becuz he is a duke sympathyst and only wants 4 big teams to win it every year…Pat Forde was cool
February 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
don’t worry jhill I know you bandwagoners in LA rocking ya LOB city shirts now lol
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Funny you mention that.
I’ve always THOUGHT I supported the Clippers. You know, JV team and all. Even yesterday I found myself talking myself into hoping they would win against the Cavs but was genuinely tickled that they lost, lol.
PHHUUGGG the Clippers and all this talk about them being ready to WIN THE WEST???????
Git the phhhuggg outta here!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:55 am
back in the 80s used to go to smoke ins at University of Maryland. talk about gettig BLAZED !!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:55 am
883.Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Dakota….hell yeah I was there….going crazy!……Marcus Denmon balled out….I knew he was….nite before at the house…its midnight and he bust out the room holding scouting report yelling” Fk Kansas they not all that and we gonna smoke them btches”…..well you saw his will to win….Denmon a gangsta and cousin played well too….best hoop game I ever been to…met jay bilas digger phelps and I told dickie v I don’t like him becuz he is a duke sympathyst and only wants 4 big teams to win it every year…Pat Forde was cool
+++++++++++
I figured you’d make your presence felt at the game lol.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Don’t get why you won’t open a dispensary.
Hire a monkey to do those tedius jobs you despise!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
Why do you think I should own One? I like Finance, I want to get my MBA, CFA, and make wealth mgmt my career. I also like investing and managing property and selling cars.
I like weed, but I don’t want to sell it. I know about the profits, but you also have to factor the risk. I get better returns on my investments.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:56 am
881.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
You guys down to hit up a game? It would be ideal for a weekend game, but whatevers…
=====
I aint trippin
Let me know
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Yeah, I’m down to meet y’all at Staples when the Ws play the Lakers.
Dmac has the plug on Greyhound tickets.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:56 am
884.J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
don’t worry jhill I know you bandwagoners in LA rocking ya LOB city shirts now lol
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Funny you mention that.
I’ve always THOUGHT I supported the Clippers. You know, JV team and all. Even yesterday I found myself talking myself into hoping they would win against the Cavs but was genuinely tickled that they lost, lol.
PHHUUGGG the Clippers and all this talk about them being ready to WIN THE WEST???????
Git the phhhuggg outta here!
With Chauncey out for the year…it will be harder for them! Can’t ride Paul and Griffith all year!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Where is Allen Iverson playing this year Rock?
***
Dakota,
as long as it isn’t for the Lakers or Jazz in the West
or the Nets or Raptors in the East … I’m good!
hate those 4 NBA teams with a passion. Would rather see A.I. dominate in Turkey before he plays for one of those teams
February 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Anyways my blog buddies…always fun with y’all….be cool….moving out my spot and into some place else…..all good things must come to an end….y’all cats be solid……wco,zbs and palmer suck….death to all niners!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
The Warriors should deal Monte to the highest bidder and get an athletic BIG that can play the 4 or 5 and they should start the process now. Montes’ value is good right now. They need to try and deal him and get as much as they can before its’ too late and he gets hurt or something.
It’s evident, the W’s are not going anywhere…..AGAIN…with both on the roster. Lol
I would like my Lake Show to deal Gasol for Monte. It would be a fair deal for both teams and it solves the needs of both teams as well!
February 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
888.J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:56 am
881.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
You guys down to hit up a game? It would be ideal for a weekend game, but whatevers…
=====
I aint trippin
Let me know
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Yeah, I’m down to meet y’all at Staples when the Ws play the Lakers.
Dmac has the plug on Greyhound tickets.
LOL…You know, I would if I could, but because its a 5 hour drive…
February 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Your old lady kick you out for too much time spent on the Raiders blog again Brien?
February 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Why do you think I should own One?
I know about the profits,
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There it is right there.
I know you like cheese, so it seemed like a natural thing for you.
20-30k a month?
What risks?
Shutting down and moving somewhere else?
Fed are threatening land owners who rent to dispensaries. Dispensary owners aren’t getting locked up for goodness sakes.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Got some cool seats for a good price for the W’s vs Clipps game on the 20th in Sec 122.
Gotta see the Beast Griffin in live action!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
How does one come to hate the Toronto Raptors????
February 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
896.DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Got some cool seats for a good price for the W’s vs Clipps game on the 20th in Sec 122.
Gotta see the Beast Griffin in live action!
Is that here in Oakland?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am
898.hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
896.DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Got some cool seats for a good price for the W’s vs Clipps game on the 20th in Sec 122.
Gotta see the Beast Griffin in live action!
Is that here in Oakland?
^^^^^^^^
Yep. Feb 20th at Oracle.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Dakota my presence is always known…and my presence was in full effect that entire weekend….midwest women at least in Columbia were a pleasure to be around….but now back in scandalous cali with these demons lol…its just these demons out here are fine diverse and all…trade offs trade offs and more trade offs lmao….be cool yall
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
you west coast guys with the dispensaries got it made!!i still gotta get mine on the street. would love to be able to walk into a store and pick what i want to smoke instead of taking what is offered.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Dakota,
Allen Iverson is a Raider fan
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/gallery/tawanna-iverson/tawanna-iverson-5.jpg
February 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
DKnight007,
I am not sure if it is even feasible, but I would like to see the Lakers sign JR Smith once he is done in China and trade for Ramon Sessions….and keep Gasol and Bynum for another run at the finals.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
How does one come to hate the Toronto Raptors????
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#1 they are Canadians
#2 same division as the 76ers
February 9th, 2012 at 11:05 am
JR Smith would be a great pickup for Lakes.
When are those players done in China? In like a month right?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:07 am
H,
I make good money bro. I can make more than 20-30K and not sell weed to kids that want to get high. I like smoking, and I think it should be legal.
I was one of those kids. lol
February 9th, 2012 at 11:07 am
It would be nice for Lakes to trade Gasol or Bynum for Monte now….cause then they will sign Howard after the season anyways!
Yuuuuuup! Make another title run next year!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:08 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:56 am
881.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
You guys down to hit up a game? It would be ideal for a weekend game, but whatevers…
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I aint trippin
Let me know
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Yeah, I’m down to meet y’all at Staples when the Ws play the Lakers.
Dmac has the plug on Greyhound tickets.
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Not for everyone. lol
Just the big homie J Heezy!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
J,*sorry bro.
My fingers are getting fat from eating all that cheese.
I love cheese.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:10 am
cant shake this frustration behind pac man vs bradly, this is why boxing gets clowned today. Although I dont think the sport is dying, but greed on the part of promoters has really set the sport back, along with a lack of a network tv deal. Can boxing make a come back?
There are two things needed to bring boxing back to the forefront.
1.) Free boxing on network tv that features up and coming boxers in all weight classes. Not only is this good for the fan by keeping the public abreast of the who is who, but it also allows you to follow young boxers and claim them as your favorites. Just like in other sports when you watch college players turn pro. This would also make the sport far more visible to the poor kids that dont have cable, who form the pool of potential future fighters. every kid in the hood wants to be on tv and a star, boxing on network tv could wet their appetite and give them a reason to want to be fighters. kids in the hood want to play hoop, and football because they will not only get paid, but become stars on tv , boxing needs the same.
2.) An american heavy weight champ. There are two guys that are worth following right now, seth mitchell and deontay wilder. It will be fun seeing how far these guys can go, but they need to be exposed to a wider audience. again tv would draw some of those big kids that arent boxing because they have chosen football. An american heavy wieght champ would create an instant surge i the sport. Nobody wants to watch the klitchkos, and bunch of eastern block dudes with names we cant pronounce.
Boxing is still exciting we need to create an environment which speaks to the talented youth. MMA can be very boring at times, but it is always on tv. kids are not getting rich but the are getting fame. The lure of fame is just as strong as the lure of money and wealth.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Late March Early April if his team makes the playoffs is what I am reading.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Why do you think I should own One?
I know about the profits,
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There it is right there.
I know you like cheese, so it seemed like a natural thing for you.
20-30k a month?
What risks?
Shutting down and moving somewhere else?
Fed are threatening land owners who rent to dispensaries. Dispensary owners aren’t getting locked up for goodness sakes.
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J Heezy and DMAC possible business buddies???????
What do you say?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I can make more than 20-30K
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Really???
Per month???
Doing what, property in the middle east?
You were talking about 30% annually before.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Dakota my presence is always known…and my presence was in full effect that entire weekend….midwest women at least in Columbia were a pleasure to be around….but now back in scandalous cali with these demons lol…its just these demons out here are fine diverse and all…trade offs trade offs and more trade offs lmao….be cool yall
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I can’t lie.
I love my demon thats at home!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
you west coast guys with the dispensaries got it made!!i still gotta get mine on the street. would love to be able to walk into a store and pick what i want to smoke instead of taking what is offered.
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What are the P’s going for out there?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Raider O Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
J,*sorry bro.
My fingers are getting fat from eating all that cheese.
I love cheese.
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I told you to put them fat ass fingers on the treadmill O Dog!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
you west coast guys with the dispensaries got it made!!i still gotta get mine on the street. would love to be able to walk into a store and pick what i want to smoke instead of taking what is offered.
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Word! I mean, its not too bad for me because I have some friends who are quite the farmers, but still, I would LOVE to be able to just walk into the store and cop some. Variety would be nice too.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Rockstar,
You a Sixer fan? I’m a huge Sixer Fan. Gonna make some noise this year in playoffs.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:18 am
What are the P’s going for out there?
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For quality Devil’s Cabbage? I can get ‘em for 2500 but, you gotta buy 5 or more. Singles are usally 3000
February 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Green Bay: Ben McAdoo who was coaching the tight ends, will now coach the quarterbacks
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promote from within. I like it
expect Reggie Mac to handle business in a similar manner in Oakland – However, most quality assistants were still under contract or found work with other teams quickly this offseason. Wouldn’t surprise me to see a few guys replaced next offseason – unless they make the most of their opportunity (of course)
February 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:18 am
What are the P’s going for out there?
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For quality Devil’s Cabbage? I can get ‘em for 2500 but, you gotta buy 5 or more. Singles are usally 3000
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what state?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
J Heezy and DMAC possible business buddies???????
What do you say?
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We need O!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
You a Sixer fan? I’m a huge Sixer Fan. Gonna make some noise this year in playoffs.
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504,
I was a big 76er fan when Iverson played for them. I still like them, but not as much anymore
February 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
J Heezy and DMAC possible business buddies???????
What do you say?
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We need O!
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He’s not fk’n w/ us on the business tip.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
omly get 1/4 lb… $450.00
February 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Jimmy Raye has been hired by the Bucs as “senior offensive assistant”
-Alex Marvez of FoxSports
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new Raiders regime = trend setters?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Early lunch!
“Put some hot sauce on my burrito baby!”
February 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
For quality Devil’s Cabbage? I can get ‘em for 2500 but, you gotta buy 5 or more. Singles are usally 3000
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what state?
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NY
February 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
For quality Devil’s Cabbage?
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Never heard of that.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Houston Texans: Former Miami Dolphins quarterbacks coach and UCLA head coach Karl Dorrell will become quarterbacks coach for the Texans
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Greg Knapp replaced!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Per month???
Doing what, property in the middle east?
You were talking about 30% annually before.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I know what I told you.
1-20K in $ is about 14,000 JDs. You have to factor the FX rates/ difference.
2- you do realize 30% can be more than 240-360k based on what amount you invest.
3- I will show a way to make 20-30k/ month selling cars with less than 150K invested.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:26 am
914.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Dakota my presence is always known…and my presence was in full effect that entire weekend….midwest women at least in Columbia were a pleasure to be around….but now back in scandalous cali with these demons lol…its just these demons out here are fine diverse and all…trade offs trade offs and more trade offs lmao….be cool yall
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I can’t lie.
I love my demon thats at home!
^^^^^^^^
Cali Vixens! lol
February 9th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Hey Bcz24,
Why do so many folks rock A’s hats out there? Is it just a fashion thing or are there some fans out there?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
926.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Jimmy Raye has been hired by the Bucs as “senior offensive assistant”
-Alex Marvez of FoxSports
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new Raiders regime = trend setters?
^^^^^^^
I’ll take Al Saunders as a senior offensive assistant, anyday of the week ahead of Jimmy Raye any day of the week.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:26 am
914.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Dakota my presence is always known…and my presence was in full effect that entire weekend….midwest women at least in Columbia were a pleasure to be around….but now back in scandalous cali with these demons lol…its just these demons out here are fine diverse and all…trade offs trade offs and more trade offs lmao….be cool yall
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I can’t lie.
I love my demon thats at home!
^^^^^^^^
Cali Vixens! lol
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gotta luv em’
February 9th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Great discussions in here this morning…
788.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
“McFadden has gotten injured. But prior to this past injury, he played in 45 out of a possible 55 games!”
Yeah but he has only started 32 times out of 64 games.
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And…of the games DMC started, how many did he not finish? When he trips and hurts his foot 2-plays into the game, EVERYTHING changes. Entire game plans are built around impact players like DMC, and their impact isn’t felt when on the bench.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:34 am
J Hill Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
J Heezy and DMAC possible business buddies???????
What do you say?
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We need O!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Let’s do RE here in Cali/ US. Minimize the risk.
Every time we get closed down we have to start from scratch. I know a few people that did it. Everything is great tell you get a new place, new equipment, pay a lot for a few months, and before you are ready to get your Harvest/ profits you get shut down by the Feds, and you enter the legal system to TRY to get it back, and that will cost a lot of money.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:35 am
926.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Jimmy Raye has been hired by the Bucs as “senior offensive assistant”
-Alex Marvez of FoxSports
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new Raiders regime = trend setters?
Jimmy Raye??? Really???
February 9th, 2012 at 11:37 am
“And…of the games DMC started, how many did he not finish? When he trips and hurts his foot 2-plays into the game, EVERYTHING changes. Entire game plans are built around impact players like DMC, and their impact isn’t felt when on the bench.”
It was amazing to me that he only started half the game she could have over the last 4 years…sure cable had Fargus in there a lot but still you want your RB to be in every game.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:38 am
All staff replaced at L.A. school after sex abuse allegations
Police on January 30 arrested Miramonte Elementary instructor Mark Berndt, who they say placed cockroaches on students’ faces and offered them spoonfuls of a substance found to be semen. Four days later they arrested another teacher, Martin Springer, on suspicion of molesting two students.
His arrest followed a year-long investigation that began when a drug store photo processor turned over pictures to police that showed students blindfolded and with their mouths covered with tape.
In some cases, children were pictured with large, live Madagascar-type cockroaches on their faces and mouths, the Sheriff’s Department has said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-teacher-abuse-california-idUSTRE8160HJ20120207
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Wow, there’s some sick fkrs out there.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:40 am
935.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:26 am
914.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Method To My Madness Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Dakota my presence is always known…and my presence was in full effect that entire weekend….midwest women at least in Columbia were a pleasure to be around….but now back in scandalous cali with these demons lol…its just these demons out here are fine diverse and all…trade offs trade offs and more trade offs lmao….be cool yall
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I can’t lie.
I love my demon thats at home!
^^^^^^^^
Cali Vixens! lol
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gotta luv em’
^^^^^^^
I was born and raised in the East Bay, but I went to school, did real esate and lived in SD for 10 years.
Demon chics and groupies big time in SD, but I like the ladies up in the Bay….more cultural diversity.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
933.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Hey Bcz24,
Why do so many folks rock A’s hats out there? Is it just a fashion thing or are there some fans out there?
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I literally don’t think I have ever seen a A’s hat here. LOL. Maybe in NYC, but I am no where near there. I am a little over an hour east of Buffalo
February 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
So why bring that in here, KK? Some people come in here to avoid cr4p like that.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
933.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Hey Bcz24,
Why do so many folks rock A’s hats out there? Is it just a fashion thing or are there some fans out there?
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I literally don’t think I have ever seen a A’s hat here. LOL. Maybe in NYC, but I am no where near there. I am a little over an hour east of Buffalo
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lol
Yeah, the reason I asked is a few buddies told me they saw hella people wearing them. I think they were in NYC though.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:48 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
So why bring that in here, KK? Some people come in here to avoid cr4p like that.
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Did you register a complaint when this blog was involved in Bible Study for the whole afternoon, day before yesterday?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Us upstate New Yorkers don’t even consider NYC part of New York. It should be a district like DC is, seperate from the state. We get screwed all the time with higher taxes, budget issues… etc. because of NYC. Unfortunately we can never get that legislation passed because almost 50% of the states population resides in NYC, and we are all governed out of NYC. Upstate doesn’t have a voice…
Enough of my political rant.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
So why bring that in here, KK? Some people come in here to avoid cr4p like that.
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Did you register a complaint when this blog was involved in Bible Study for the whole afternoon, day before yesterday?
Did I really commit a cardinal sin for posting a news story, really?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
KK Munster, your were on this blog last night on your anniversary?
lmfao
February 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
back in the 80s used to go to smoke ins at University of Maryland. talk about gettig BLAZED !!!!
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At least you made it out of them alive, can’t say the same for Lenny
February 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Almost as sick as mandating the catholic church to provide abortions via 0hbama care, right KK ?
What should dicktator 0hbama mandate next KK? Where should he draw the line ?
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KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Wow, there’s some sick fkrs out there.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Just wondering why you’d want to propagate such filth on a football blog.
And, no…I didn’t file a complaint when a bunch of people were discussing religion…it’s not what you’d expect to find in a football blog, but it was here.
You could’ve jumped in with a football take, and changed the subject if you wanted.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
boxing needs a network deal. i watched alexis arguello and arron pryor fight both title fights on abc.
How can boxing be mainstream if you cant even find it on tv, and lack luster match ups like bradly pac man are 60 bucks a pop??!?! plus the under cards will be fighters that most of the public is unaware of, because they have never seen them fight on tv?
February 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I’ll take Al Saunders as a senior offensive assistant, anyday of the week ahead of Jimmy Raye
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DK007,
I know, remember that guy?
He was our OC back when Norv Turner was our HC!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
BrownStains, now that the economy is clearly on the upswing, Republicans, the supposedly anti-govt party, are turning their attention to bedroom govt policy. Too funny.
February 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
boxing needs a network deal. i watched alexis arguello and arron pryor fight both title fights on abc.
Wow, memories! Ali used to be on ABC as well!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:58 am
356.M Lonetree Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
This is nothing but good.
Saunders, from the time he was a Raider ball-boy until tomorrow has more knowledge of O-schemes than Knapp and Defillippo etc. have accumulated together. An excellent resource for the staff
.
No football job or analyst job for Huebris yet? Free money this year and then when that runs out his wife is gonna do a deserved Lorena Bobbitt on him for squandering it all.
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A very WISE move by Allen to keep Coach Saunders on staff as the eye in the sky in the booth for the Offense.
Knapp and his other Kiffin cronie buddy DeFillipo are going to need Saunders BIG time me thinks!
February 9th, 2012 at 11:59 am
KK Munster, the economy is not on the upswing and if it was it would be despite ohbama’s policies. The reason unemployment dropped is because people fell off the radar after 18 months of unemployment. You can find those people on food stamps now.
You clueless fuktard!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
i watched alexis arguello and arron pryor fight both title fights on abc.
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Great fights!!!!
That was when Pryor was at his best, throwing like 7 punch combo’s lol.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Back in the late 70’s-80’s, boxing was on network TV all the time. Great fights, too…probably a third of them were title bouts of some sort.
Even with the popularity of MMA fighting, good boxing matches would be a success on TV, but only during the NFL’s off-season, when people are just dying to see more contact…and the viewing base isn’t diluted by too many other activities.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
KK Munster, I asked you where dicktator ohbama will draw the line on his marxist dicktatorship, you failed to answer.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
BrownStains, your life must be pretty miserable.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Don’t mean to bringing up Huey, but I personally would like to see Hue take over for Tedford at Cal after next season.
I think Hue would be a great fit as the new head coach for Cal football and he would renergize that whole program and he would attract better recruits…especially with the new Memorial Stadium coming.
Tedford should have been fired from Cal 3 years ago!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Don’t mean to bringing up Huey, but I personally would like to see Hue take over for Tedford at Cal after next season.
I think Hue would be a great fit as the new head coach for Cal football and he would renergize that whole program and he would attract better recruits…especially with the new Memorial Stadium coming.
Tedford should have been fired from Cal 3 years ago!
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Hell yes!!!!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Aaron Pryor drinking from his trainer’s “special” power drink in the corner…
February 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
You were on this blog during your “alleged” anniversary and you say my life is miserable? Be honest that bowl cut toad left you years ago, right ?
lmfao
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KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
BrownStains, your life must be pretty miserable.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
boxing needs a network deal. i watched alexis arguello and arron pryor fight both title fights on abc.
Wow, memories! Ali used to be on ABC as well!
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boxings fatal flaw was removing itself from tv. All tune up fights should be network tv.
I still rememebr prtor being beaten then suddenly his trainer appears in his corner with a water bottle saying “drink this drink this”.
Boxers dont drink more than a sip or two in between rounds, PRYOR DRANK THE WHOLE BOTTLE!!! came out in the next round a wild man and beat the hell out of arguello. That was one of the single most compelling moments in boxing tv history
February 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
If we were going to retain Saunders anyway…why not keep him as the offensive coordinator. Why keep him and demote him, when his track record and body of work is superior to Knapp, and he had more success during his time with the Raiders?
Makes no sense to me. What advantage is to be gained by hiring Knapp and demoting Saunders. If Saunders is worth keeping on the staff, shouldn’t he be the OC?smh.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
MB, what’s your problem with Marxism? It’s capitalism that has you living in a trailer by yourself, with a dial up internet connection.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Agreed!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
boxing needs a network deal. i watched alexis arguello and arron pryor fight both title fights on abc.
How can boxing be mainstream if you cant even find it on tv, and lack luster match ups like bradly pac man are 60 bucks a pop??!?!
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You can catch some good undercard fights on Friday nights on Telemundo or Univision. The commentators will be talking Spanish, though. Check it out.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Knapp has already been demoted. To instill more deep passing plays? lmfao. Somebody from the Davis camp still has their hand on the lever.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Somebody must’ve chummed the water…here they come.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
You were on this blog during your “alleged” anniversary and you say my life is miserable? Be honest that bowl cut toad left you years ago, right ?
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Wow, does that thought make you happy?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
You were on this blog during your “alleged” anniversary and you say my life is miserable? Be honest that bowl cut toad left you years ago, right ?
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Wow, you’re an ugly person.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
KK Munster, when did she leave you? During the Carter admin? You have been living this lie for 30 years? Blogging it up with the trolls (Seymour, MR, and 666) on your “anniversary” is as pitiful as it gets, no ?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
back in the 80s used to go to smoke ins at University of Maryland. talk about gettig BLAZED !!!!
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At least you made it out of them alive, can’t say the same for Lenny
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lenny who ??
February 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
I won’t criticize the Offense until I see what Knapp and Saunders come up with.
One of the best reasons for keeping Saunders, is because he knows what worked last year and what didn’t. He’s worked enough with CPalmer to know what he does best. He also knows what everybody else on O does best, too.
Keeping Saunders was a great move…especially if he helps Knapp open-up more.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Why dont you email Becker about you spineless twat.
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KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Wow, you’re an ugly person.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Once Brownstains gets laid he will start to see the light and he might even become a kinder gentler blogger.
But until then we are subject to his abrasive rants and horrible syntax!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Mike — You must be young. “Lenny Who?”
February 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
JFB went to smoke ins at University of Maryland in the ’80s? Didn’t he attend Chico in the late ’90s? That places him at about 10 years old in 1989.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
lenny who ??
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Bias
February 9th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I thought multiple handle names were banned.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
BCZ lives near Letchworth State Park?
sweet!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Funny what just a little partying can do to the wrong person. Sad…Lenny Bias would’ve been great as a pro.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
KK Munster, your troll boy SeyGlenn666 is here to hold your hand, give her a kiss.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I have a great idea why don’t we all start a fund to get Brownstains laid.
I will donate $20 to get it started once we reach $200 he can then actually get laid (purchase a hooker) and we will all be better of because of it.
Who else will donate?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
JFB, seriously, how old are you? You attended Chico in the late ’90s, early ’00s, if I’m not mistaken. Yet you partied at U of Maryland in the ’80s? You must have had some lenient parents. Because you couldn’t have been more than 10-12 years old at the end of the ’80s.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Didn’t he attend Chico in the late ’90s?
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98-04
The 6 year college plan!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
BCZ,
ever been to Honeoye Lake?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Lenny Kravitz = biggest qu33r ever
February 9th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I know I can be a real ass hole sometimes in here but I draw the line at some point and realize that we are all human beings.
KK was happy about his anniversary as he should be but for you to come in here and rank on him and his wife because of it is crossing the line and shows you have no class!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Dude, it was a joke, and apparently a horrible one.
Sorry to confuse you little buddy.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Is there something wrong with that, RRS?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
got ya .. but weed didnt kill Len Bias.. coke kill Len Bias. still remember getting to see him pratice back then at cole field house. my father worked at Maryland back then and was good friends with Lefty, used to go to Leftys house for bar-b-qs.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
666, BrownStains is best ignored.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
MB,
Ed Schultz admitted he became a Democrat once he met his girlfriend. So, it’s not over for you.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
We all rip on each other throughout the day in here and most of it is for entertainment value and a good laugh.
When you start talking smack about peoples wives or families that is LOW and classless.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
KK Munster,
MR is not your only spooning partner now SeyGlen666 wants to give you some cuddle time! What a great week huh, first you are blogging your tail off on your anniversary now 666 throws his name in the hat for spooning sessions.
haha
February 9th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Lenny’s heart couldn’t take that powder.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
You’re such an ugly person.
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KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
666, BrownStains is best ignored.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Happy Anniversary KK 27 years is something to be proud of.
Now back to why we should not trade Mcfadden….
February 9th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
KK Munster, your ex-wife wasn’t blogging last night, right? She was with her new man, no ?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
still dont remember people calling him lenny.. always heard just Len.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
“You’re such an ugly person.”
That’s all you got?
That has to be the weakest retort I have ever seen.
I will now up my donation to $50 because the guy is in desperate need of a hand job!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Is there something wrong with that, RRS?
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HD37,
what or whom?
plenty wrong with your boy Rolando McClain!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Wow, you’re an ugly person.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
“You’re such an ugly person.”
That’s all you got?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
So on one hand its.. Trade DMC because RBs arent that important & there are lots available in free agency & the draft..
But doesnt that go against his trade value? The “fact” that there are plenty available in free agency & the draft would make him not valuable and pointless to trade someone who ‘could’ be a game breaker.
#Logic
February 9th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
now the Seahawks want Peyton Manning, LOL
he would get KILLED behind that O-Line!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
anybody here remember a team mate of Bias named Bob McAdoo ?? lol lol my sister dated him !!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
If McClain doesn’t get suspended, he gets one more year from me. I’d like to see what these coaches can do with him. But…we MUST bring in a LB that brings the heat.
Oh, RRS — It was your reference to Lenny Kravitz that I was asking about. It was just so out of the blue.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Brownstains did you know that Craigslist is probably a good place to find prostitutes…it’s not just a place for you to sell your meager possessions for a bowl of crystal meth.
Give it a try and come back tomorrow with a better attitude.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Is that where you find yours? Is that where your Dad met your Mom?
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Silverandblack666 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Brownstains did you know that Craigslist is probably a good place to find prostitutes
February 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor,
there may be 3 or 4 DMAC’s in free agency or the draft
… but there is only one Matt Giordano.
tag him, Reggie!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
still dont remember people calling him lenny.. always heard just Len.
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Jezus I thought you were a dope-smoking former hippy???
Lighten up LOL!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
“Give it a try and come back tomorrow with a better attitude.”
That would imply he has more than one attitude to play with.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
“now the Seahawks want Peyton Manning, LOL
he would get KILLED behind that O-Line!”
Paul Allen has a big enough checkbook to bring Manning there but like you said that O-Line is weak he would be injured by week 4.
I just hope Elway is not chasing Manning I would hate to play him twice a year.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Brownstains did you know that Craigslist is probably a good place to find prostitutes…
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ACtually, craigslist is no dice anymore.
Backpage is the new place…….I mean, from what I have been told.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
lol lol i still am .. lust the lunch time buzz wearing off !! lol lol
February 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
If McClain doesn’t get suspended, he gets one more year from me. I’d like to see what these coaches can do with him. But…we MUST bring in a LB that brings the heat.
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HD37,
who do you have in mind?
Blackstock, Brown & Goethel aren’t exactly “competition”
more like clones!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Funny, SeyGlen666 cant even get “prostitutes” right.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Brownstains did you know that Craigslist is probably a good place to find prostitutes…
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ACtually, craigslist is no dice anymore.
Backpage is the new place…….I mean, from what I have been told.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
JFB, there haven’t been hippies in every day society since the ’70s. They all live in Arcata now. What’s your thing with hippies?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
“Is that where you find yours? Is that where your Dad met your Mom?”
See your attempt at humor is not even funny or logical…My mom and dad were married in the 1960’s there was no such thing as internet or Craigslist in the 1960’s.
Try giving a little thought first then type its an amazing function that most of us practice here.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
YO SULLY.. i am still a hippie !!! lol lol lol
February 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
MB, where do you get your prostitutes?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I will be rocking my double-nickel all next year, reaping the rewards of my patience, as he leads the Raider turnaround.
Who better to teach discipline than Rolando? I mean, he didn’t shoot the guy in the face, he pulled away and showed great discipline!!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Mike, are you a pacifist?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I just hope Elway is not chasing Manning I would hate to play him twice a year.
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Silver,
I’d rather play against Peyton Manning at 36 years old coming off of neck surgery learning a new offense than AFC West champion Tim Tebow going into his 3rd NFL season with a ton of mobility and potential
Dungy & Caldwell aren’t in Denver. Neither are Harrison, Wayne, Saturday & Clark
February 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
“Backpage is the new place…….I mean, from what I have been told.”
Now that’s FUNNY!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
666Glenn, how long before you login under your Seymour Bush alias and start with your Newt Gingrich & Colt McCoy off topic nonsense like a FK’ng fuktard?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
i get mine in D.C. corner of 14th street and Penn ave.
only about 6 blocks from the capitol !!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
“MB, where do you get your prostitutes?”
He cant afford hookers he drives a rape van.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Mike, are you a pacifist?
you could say that, yes.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Silver,
see comment #1028
February 9th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Mike, you’re a hippie and you exploit women by paying them for sex? I dunno.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Mike, it’s a simple yes or no question. Are you a pacifist, or not? What do you mean “you can say that?”. That tells me you are a pacifist in some instances, aren’t in others. Well then you’re not a hippie. Pretty much everybody is a selective pacifist, choosing to fight the right battles. Hippies believe in total pacifism.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
never said i paied them.. just said thats where i pick them up !! if you got it going on you dont have to pay.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
you exploit women by paying them for sex?
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You got it backwards.
These women are exploiting vulnerable men!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
666Glenn, you tried blasting me for prostitutes and of course you failed. Good news for you, alot of guys here hire prostitutes. Go after them, moron
February 9th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
JFB, what is vulnerable about a man who approaches a woman, and offers to pay her money for sex? Desperate? Yes. Vulnerable? No.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Just like KK Munster, while here on his anniversary last night he informed us he has been married 27 years and is ALSO a “ladies man”.
LMFAO
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R8ER MIKE Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
never said i paied them.. just said thats where i pick them up !! if you got it going on you dont have to pay.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
JFB, what is vulnerable about a man who approaches a woman, and offers to pay her money for sex?
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I don’t know, you will have to ask someone who is more familiar with this.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
“Silver,
see comment #1028″
I just don’t see Tebow as their starter next year.
He was a flash in the pan his 15 minutes are up.
If they do keep him next year he will have a horrific year because all the defenses will have figured out how to stop him.
Just my opinion…but until he gets an accurate arm he will struggle now that everyone has seen their game. plan
February 9th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Knapp has already been demoted. To instill more deep passing plays? lmfao. Somebody from the Davis camp still has their hand on the lever.
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not so fast sully,
Keeping suanders was the right move, and gives carson the best chance to succeed, why is that a problem? there is no conspiracy, they need to get something positive from palmer after all it took to get him.
Knapp is wher the offense will go eventually but we cant dive in with a qb that doesnt fit his offense, so they will need over site on game plans from saunders who knows carsons strengths and weaknesses.
It was a great move by big mack, as we will not have to go into next year without knowing if carson can work in this offense. they have eliminated the excuse of “its his first year in the offense”
February 9th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Haha,
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R8ER MIKE Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mista, i never pizzed in your yard, why would you compair me to KK. that my friend is a true insult!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Sully re-read what I said. I said YES
February 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
MB, do you think anyone here is buying for one second that you’re not the type of guy that pays for sex?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor,
there may be 3 or 4 DMAC’s in free agency or the draft
… but there is only one Matt Giordano.
tag him, Reggie!
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Right? What are we waiting for?!?!..
February 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
older women who go after younger guys are normally called “Cougars” , right?
Sullivan44 just called her Aunt Linda …
February 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mike, you said, “you could say that, yes”. What does that mean? Why not just a clear yes? Any hippie has one short, 3 letter answer to that question. You gave an ambiguous response, implying that in some instances you aren’t are pacifist. Well, if that’s the case, you’re no hippie.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mista, i never pizzed in your yard, why would you compair me to KK. that my friend is a true insult!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Is the blog acting up again or did Mista have a premonition that Mike was going to write that to him? Weird…
February 9th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Franchise tag, who’s it?
NFL free agency starts March 13 and the franchise tag assigning period begins later this month. Anything can happen, but let’s look at a franchise tag candidate for each team in the AFC West:
Denver Broncos, defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley: Bunkley played tremendously last season for Denver and he was an unsung hero on an improved defense. He is a priority to re-sign. But I think Denver would likely consider giving him a long-term deal instead of giving him the franchise tag. Kicker Matt Prater could also be a candidate to get the tag.
Kansas City Chiefs, receiver Dwayne Bowe: He is one of the most interesting free agents in the division. Kansas City general manager Scott Pioli has a reputation for signing his top talent to long-term deals and the Chiefs have said Bowe is a priority. If he gets to free agency, there is a chance he’d get a monster deal elsewhere. I think the Chiefs will consider giving Bowe the franchise tag if he doesn’t re-sign. Cornerback Brandon Carr is another priority, but Bowe may have a better chance of getting franchised.
Oakland Raiders, running back Michael Bush: This is the one everyone is looking at. Bush is a backup but he may get tagged because Oakland starter Darren McFadden has a history of injuries. If Bush is tagged, it could also be a sign Oakland would be open to trading McFadden to recoup lost draft picks. If Bush gets on the open market, he will very likely leave because he will get paid to be a starter.
San Diego Chargers, receiver Vincent Jackson: There are many options here. If Jackson — who was tagged last year — is not franchised, the Chargers could easily lose him. Jackson has stated he wants to remain in San Diego, but can the Chargers risk getting in a bidding war for the Pro Bowler? Still, giving him the franchise tag, could limit the Chargers from doing other things in free agency. I think the team would like to secure a long-term deal with Jackson prior to the start of free agency, but because there are no guarantees, placing the franchise tag on Jackson may be the end result.
By Bill Williamson (ESPN)
February 9th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Sully, whats your promlem dude ?? just how many hippies do you know?? and what makes you a hippie expert ?? you do know the definition of expert,dont you?
an ex is a has-been
and a pert is a drip under pressure.
he11 that does sound like you !!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I see KK and 666 rode off into the sunset together…
February 9th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
963.DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Don’t mean to bringing up Huey, but I personally would like to see Hue take over for Tedford at Cal after next season.
I think Hue would be a great fit as the new head coach for Cal football and he would renergize that whole program and he would attract better recruits…especially with the new Memorial Stadium coming.
Tedford should have been fired from Cal 3 years ago!
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Hell yes!!!!!!
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Hue Jackson would OWN as the head coach of Cal Football!
Tedford is a joke!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Hey, it’s comment roulette!!!
I bet I will land on #1049
February 9th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I think it is the curse of mocking Giordano!!!
Blog gets out of whack with such nonsense
February 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Notice as soon as Cable left, Bush started trying to run like a finesse back, looking for holes, only to get stuffed? When Cable was here, Bush was just running down hill and picking up 7 yards every other touch.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
1054.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Hey, it’s comment roulette!!!
I bet I will land on #1049
You noticed that too, huh?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
This year’s franchise tag deadline is March 5
February 9th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Makes it hard for you to post to your alias’s huh?
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Sullivan44 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Last time this happened it took weeks to fix.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Mistic, let me ask you this then.
Who do you think made the decision to retain Saunders?
Also, this blog is back to the “posting comments too quickly” thing, and scrambling the order of the comments. Last time this happened it took weeks to fix.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Tedford is complete garbage.
If it weren’t for the great Fighting Roadrunner, Aaron Rodgers, he would have been canned 5 years ago.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
The sad thing is that NO ONE on the defensive side of the ball is above getting cut/traded imo. Not one defensive player jumped out as “necessary” to the team last year. (just goes to show how valuable Aso was).
Even “boar-hunter” Branch didn’t strike me as a playmaker
Giordono the “defensive gradkoswki” made a couple of ints that made for his poor coverage and tackling.
Seymore seemed to fade as the season went on, barely made up for his lack of pressure on the QB with a couple of blocked FGs.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I don’t think we will franchise Bush, I think we will let him go and take a guy in the 4th or 5th round to replace him.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Hue Jackson would OWN as the head coach of Cal Football!
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Hue Jackson would start 6-1 and finish 7-6 @ Cal Bears
February 9th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Giordono the “defensive gradkoswki” made a couple of ints that made for his poor coverage and tackling
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LOL!
February 9th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Saunders will most likely run the scout team offence
February 9th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I would just not use the franchise tag.
Look at our last franchisee’s. Wimbley, Nnamdi, C-Wood
All backfired.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Bush is actually better for Knapp’s system than McFadden.
February 9th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Mistic, let me ask you this then.
Who do you think made the decision to retain Saunders?
Also, this blog is back to the “posting comments too quickly” thing, and scrambling the order of the comments. Last time this happened it took weeks to fix.
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big mack
Its clear that we are in deep trouble with the palmer deal, this is a way to try and salvage something good from the deal. It makes sense to give it a fair shot.
By the way big mack is a raider, and he is proving shrewd just like uncle al
February 9th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Jeff Tedford > Hue Jackson
W/L record of 79-48
Hue Jax would be more like Bruce Snyder, Keith Gilbertson or Tom Holmoe over there …
February 9th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Whats the record for most posts b4 we get a new stream?
February 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
We are not going to have a high scoring offense with this GM and HC. That’s why I think somebody from the Davis faction lobbied to keep Saunders. Probably Trask. Al probably told her one day, “no matta what happens ta me, make sure we still run tha vertical aaffense Aamy!!”
February 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
bush cant block I’d never start him
February 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Dakota,
in favor of the nickname ‘Fighting Sioux’ ???
February 9th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Didn’t he attend Chico in the late ’90s?
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98-04
The 6 year college plan!!!
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Who do you speak of? I graduated from Chico in mid 90’s
February 9th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
We are not going to have a high scoring offense with this GM and HC. That’s why I think somebody from the Davis faction lobbied to keep Saunders. Probably Trask. Al probably told her one day, “no matta what happens ta me, make sure we still run tha vertical aaffense Aamy!!”
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i will miss the vertical game, i hate the wco!!!!
R.I.P AL DAVIS
February 9th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Saunders will install opposing offences on thw scout team
February 9th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I graduated from Chico in mid 90’s
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Raccoon = party animal?
February 9th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
JFB = “Droz” from that movie PCU
February 9th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
“Its clear that we are in deep trouble with the Palmer deal”
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Mistic — Your overwhelming disapproval of CPalmer is showing…
Where does it look like we’re in deep trouble with the deal? The fact we didn’t make the Playoffs? We didn’t deserve to make them, CPalmer or somebody else at QB.
We had the talent, but not the coaching/drive/penalty-free play/intangibles…or Defense to make a Playoff run.
CPalmer has already shown he’s still got the ability to excel…now the coaches need to make sure he does. There is nothing yet to show that we’re “in trouble” with the Palmer deal. My money says we’ll be ahead in the deal at the end of this season.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Kind of Strange hearing this come out of Pittsburgh:
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The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported after the regular season that Mike Tomlin wanted to retain offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.
The Steelers and Tomlin never denied these reports. Two weeks later, the Steelers forced Arians to “retire.” Arians quickly found work with the Colts.
There is a strongly held belief in Pittsburgh that the Rooney family forced Tomlin to get rid of Arians. There is also some belief the Steelers forced Tomlin to hire Todd Haley as offensive coordinator instead of an in-house candidate.
Ron Cook of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette raises this question in a column for Thursday’s paper. PFT’s Mike Florio also heard chatter at the Super Bowl that Tomlin didn’t want to hire Haley.
The Steelers won’t ever confirm this. Tomlin will attend Haley’s press conference Thursday, but the head coach won’t speak. By the time Tomlin does speak, he’ll know just what to say to turn Haley’s hire into a non-story.
Cook notes that Tomlin’s contract runs out after the 2012 season with an option for 2013, and wonders if Tomlin might want to move on to another job because of meddlesome owners. Tomlin looks weak in all this; head coaches are supposed to have control of their staff. (Especially Super Bowl-winning head coaches.)
February 9th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
HayseDaze
When Brownstains was ragging on my wife, I didn’t hear you complain then about blog content, did I?
February 9th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
“Its clear that we are in deep trouble with the Palmer deal”
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Mistic — Your overwhelming disapproval of CPalmer is showing…
Where does it look like we’re in deep trouble with the deal? The fact we didn’t make the Playoffs? We didn’t deserve to make them, CPalmer or somebody else at QB.
We had the talent, but not the coaching/drive/penalty-free play/intangibles…or Defense to make a Playoff run.
CPalmer has already shown he’s still got the ability to excel…now the coaches need to make sure he does. There is nothing yet to show that we’re “in trouble” with the Palmer deal. My money says we’ll be ahead in the deal at the end of this season.
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relax bra,
deep trouble because of what we paid, and what we gave up (draft picks). He played very poorly last year so he has no trade value, and if he stinks this year the deal will go down as a flop.
The fact that he did not play well means the scales at the moment are tipping toward deep trouble, it isnt too late for it to be reversed. he could play well next year and ll will be forgotten.
Thats all
February 9th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Mike, are you a pacifist?
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Yes, and I am also dyslexic so,
YUCK FOU !!!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
990.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
BCZ,
ever been to Honeoye Lake?
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My mom lives on Honeoye Lake… why do you ask?
February 9th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Mistic, you miss the vertical game?
You must be in your 70s. Because the vertical game only worked for a few years in the early 1960s. The zone defense killed it. Whatever success we’ve had with the vertical offense beyond that point was accompanied with a short passing game.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
KK — I’ve defended you plenty in here, when others go over the line…back down, old-timer. You were in here…and you were throwing out your own statements. Fight your own battles, big guy. I jump in where I want…not to satisfy, nor make it seem like I ally myself with you. MB is SUCH a tough guy, you just couldn’t handle him yourself?
February 9th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
i will miss the vertical game, i hate the wco!!!!
R.I.P AL DAVIS
Agreed!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Oakland Raiders, running back Michael Bush: This is the one everyone is looking at. Bush is a backup but he may get tagged because Oakland starter Darren McFadden has a history of injuries. If Bush is tagged, it could also be a sign Oakland would be open to trading McFadden to recoup lost draft picks. If Bush gets on the open market, he will very likely leave because he will get paid to be a starter.
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This is ridiculous. NO WAY are we paying Michael Bush 8.5 million. He has never shown enough to be worth that. If he wants more than 2.5 million let him walk…
February 9th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
HD
You complained when I posted a news story, but you never say anything when people are throwing family members around, or throwing the N-word around. Just sayin.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
BCZ,
my best friend was stationed at Fort Drum, NY for a few years …
February 9th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Mistic…/…You must be in your 70s. Because the vertical game only worked for a few years in the early 1960s. The zone defense killed it.
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Oh…that must be why it’s so rare for QB’s to throw 4,000-5,000+ yards in a season now.
What a know-nothing.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Wow! Tomlin is pissed????
February 9th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
There is no free agent on our roster worth franchising.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Mistic, you miss the vertical game?
You must be in your 70s. Because the vertical game only worked for a few years in the early 1960s. The zone defense killed it. Whatever success we’ve had with the vertical offense beyond that point was accompanied with a short passing game.
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you are attemtping to paint all vertical offense with one broad stroke and that is not accurate. you must have missed when moss and tuck rule tom set the td record going vertical. maybe you didnt watch the baylor bears and RGIII goging vertical from the spread.
Vertical offense can come from lots of different schemes, it doesnt have to be limited to your idea of air corryel
February 9th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
i must be in my 70’s?!?!?!?!?! LMAO
February 9th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
KK — You don’t know what you’re talking about. Ask MB how I feel about his racist BS statements. Fight your own battles.
OR…BETTER YET…why not talk about sports yourself? It’s much more enjoyable than the filth you, MB, Brien, and MR would rather talk about most the time.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
I dont make any racist comments so why don’t you go eat a sh!t sammich.
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HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
KK — You don’t know what you’re talking about. Ask MB how I feel about his racist BS statements. Fight your own battles.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
NO WAY are we paying Michael Bush 8.5 million. He has never shown enough to be worth that. If he wants more than 2.5 million let him walk…
There is no free agent on our roster worth franchising
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Agreed with BCZ. The only way I’m paying Bush $8.5 million is in the form of a new 3-year deal
February 9th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
KK Munster, isn’t it enough MR & 666Glen spoon you like a cheap hooker, you have to reach out to GaysDaze too?
#pitiful
February 9th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
i will miss the vertical game, i hate the wco!!!!
R.I.P AL DAVIS
Agreed!
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If our WCO is anything like GB’s, then I am all good man.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
The Rams won a Super Bowl with a vertical passing game about 10 years ago then 2 years ago New Orleans did it.
Like HayesDaze37 said with 4 or 5 QB’s over 4,000 yards and close to 5,000 yards I would say the vertical passing game is a huge part of the NFL right now.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
That is true, and that could be evident based on Saunders being retained!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
“KK Munster, isn’t it enough MR & 666Glen spoon you like a cheap hooker, you have to reach out to GaysDaze too?
#pitiful”
I would say a more accurate statement would be that you have made a lot of enemies here and are staring to feel it. Don’t blame KK or anyone else just look in the mirror.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
i wonder if we get to 2000 posts if we will get a new stream ???
February 9th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Doriangray Says:
February 8th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
kell ,, who cares bout yo anniversary… sentimental azz nicca,…. log off the internet and go take a dark bubble bath wit yo wife
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Just deleted the comments you singled out, as well as others, and killed out this clown’s two usernames. Keep me posted if he reappears. Feel free to point out to the other readers that I blocked this clown.
Steve Corkran
February 9th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
The Rams won a Super Bowl with a vertical passing game about 10 years ago then 2 years ago New Orleans did it.
Like HayesDaze37 said with 4 or 5 QB’s over 4,000 yards and close to 5,000 yards I would say the vertical passing game is a huge part of the NFL right now.
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fa real bra,
just because we say vertical some people want to conjure up plunkett and branch.
rmr will come up with anything to try abd discredit davis even if it has nothing to do with davis
February 9th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
1084.KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Kind of Strange hearing this come out of Pittsburgh:
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The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported after the regular season that Mike Tomlin wanted to retain offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.
The Steelers and Tomlin never denied these reports. Two weeks later, the Steelers forced Arians to “retire.” Arians quickly found work with the Colts.
There is a strongly held belief in Pittsburgh that the Rooney family forced Tomlin to get rid of Arians. There is also some belief the Steelers forced Tomlin to hire Todd Haley as offensive coordinator instead of an in-house candidate.
Ron Cook of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette raises this question in a column for Thursday’s paper. PFT’s Mike Florio also heard chatter at the Super Bowl that Tomlin didn’t want to hire Haley.
The Steelers won’t ever confirm this. Tomlin will attend Haley’s press conference Thursday, but the head coach won’t speak. By the time Tomlin does speak, he’ll know just what to say to turn Haley’s hire into a non-story.
Cook notes that Tomlin’s contract runs out after the 2012 season with an option for 2013, and wonders if Tomlin might want to move on to another job because of meddlesome owners. Tomlin looks weak in all this; head coaches are supposed to have control of their staff. (Especially Super Bowl-winning head coaches.)
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Writers LMAO!!!!!!
Tomlin looks weak? Rooneys can be cute if they want too. Tomlin would get hired by another team in a NY minute!!!
I would love for the Raiders to be coached by Tomlin.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Mike,
Steve & Jerry are waiting for the semi pros to post some “breaking news” so they can copy and paste it up in a more official and organized format for our viewing pleasure …
February 9th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
KK — You don’t know what you’re talking about. Ask MB how I feel about his racist BS statements. Fight your own battles.
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I do, every damned day.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Notice how those teams with big receiving yards LOVE their TE’s? Boss should have a minimum of 50 catches this year…and more if he’s singled by LB’s/linemen while DMoore and DHB get more attention.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Drop it, KK — We all have our battles. We’ve moved on now…how about a football take?.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I would love for the Raiders to be coached by Tomlin
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CJL,
Dennis Allen & Jason Tarver are basically white versions of Mike Tomlin & Leslie Frazier imo
February 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
“rmr will come up with anything to try abd discredit davis even if it has nothing to do with davis”
Now that Al has passed he has targeted Amy and Herrera.
Herrera handles traveling for the team why on earth would anyone have an opinion on the job he is doing unless you were upset you were not bumped to first class on the last road trip?
February 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Hey, Kell — What time was Cork’s email back to you? At least we know he’s at the keyboard…update pending!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Gotta go. Thanks. Btw, I’ve been a good boy on here for over a month now.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
7:38pm.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
KK Munster, are you happy you got a poster banned?
A shameless snitch…
February 9th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Cork didn’t email KK. That is KK tricking you into thinking so.
lol
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HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Hey, Kell — What time was Cork’s email back to you? At least we know he’s at the keyboard…update pending!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
So much for that theory, then.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Thanks for the head up Rockstar.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
What difference does it make if there is a new post?We’d still have the same 3-4 clowns on here doing their usual BS which usually doesn’t involve football.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
That “trick” has been amazingly successful in the past for him!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
just like to get some fresh news Lefty.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Now that Al has passed he has targeted Amy and Herrera.
Herrera handles traveling for the team why on earth would anyone have an opinion on the job he is doing unless you were upset you were not bumped to first class on the last road trip?
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mad because when he flashed trask and herrera at the airport he was placed on the no fly list
February 9th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
KK Munster, are you happy you got a poster banned?
A shameless snitch…
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I’m a community man, BrownStains. Thugs and Criminals won’t like me, they want to intimidate and rob the community, What they call snitching, I call standing up for my community.
Now go fk yourself. Out.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
What difference does it make if there is a new post?We’d still have the same 3-4 clowns on here doing their usual BS which usually doesn’t involve football.
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good point, Lefty
I’m off work in 75 minutes anyways.
take your time blog pimps!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
There is no way we franchise Bush, maybe if Al was here because of his loyalty to players but those days are gone.
He is a great back sure but not worth 8 million dollars. I would guess that with the new GM here we will no longer operate like that anymore and saving money for other positions will now be a bigger priority.
I would wager that we let Bush go and pick up a RB in the latter rounds of the draft.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco expects free agent DE/OLB Mario Williams to become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL if he hits the open market.
Williams has the No. 1 overall pick pedigree, the measurables, the age (just turned 27), the versatility, and the production to incite a feeding frenzy once the cap-strapped Texans pass on the franchise tag at $22.9 million. SI.com’s Don Banks suggests the Bills, Jags, and Bucs as the top three suitors, with the Packers as a wild card. We’ve also seen the Chargers and Raiders connected to Williams.
rotoworld
February 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Tomlin could work for NFL Network, Foxsports, or espn for a year then be a head coach for a top twenty college football program or an NFL team; he would be hired in a heartbeat.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Kell,
hard to call yourself a model citizen or even blogger when you finish your comment in “go fk yourself”
isn’t that considered offensive?
Steve? Jon?
February 9th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
1128 funny!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
1067.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Hue Jackson would OWN as the head coach of Cal Football!
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Hue Jackson would start 6-1 and finish 7-6 @ Cal Bears
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Sure he would….especially if he has an incompetent DC and if his starting QB and best offensive weapon at RB wind up getting hurt for half the season.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
i agree Rockstar, time for KRAPPY TO BE BANNED !!!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
BAN KK MUNSTER his language is offensive & vulgar!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
As a Cal Bear fan the last thing I’d like to see is the snake in the grass Jackson as the HC.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
1132.HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco expects free agent DE/OLB Mario Williams to become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL if he hits the open market.
Williams has the No. 1 overall pick pedigree, the measurables, the age (just turned 27), the versatility, and the production to incite a feeding frenzy once the cap-strapped Texans pass on the franchise tag at $22.9 million. SI.com’s Don Banks suggests the Bills, Jags, and Bucs as the top three suitors, with the Packers as a wild card. We’ve also seen the Chargers and Raiders connected to Williams.
rotoworld
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Would love to see the Raiders get Super Mario, but I’m not holding my hopes up on that.
Whenever the Raiders pay big money for free agents, they always sign the wrong ones. I’m sure Chubby Checker and the Fat Boyz would do it differently than old man Al, I need to see it happen to believe it.
Chances are Super Mario goes to the Packers if anywhere. He wants to get paid, but paid by a team that is good and can go to the Super Bowl and win it!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Give MBush29 $16-18 Million for 3-years, with $12 Million guaranteed…
First year salary/bonus $8 Mill…$5 Mill in year-2…and $3 Mill + easy incentives in year 3.
$6 Mill per is about what he’s going to get on the market right now…no reason for us to let MBush go anywhere.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
1139.lefty12 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
As a Cal Bear fan the last thing I’d like to see is the snake in the grass Jackson as the HC.
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I’ll take a snake in the grass that is active, who can actually recruit and win ahead of a dead snake like Jeff Tedford, who is just collecting paychecks and doesn’t give a rats azz anymore.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
WOOO HOOO its 5:00… time for a cold beer and a big ole blunt !! have a great night
SEE YA !!!!
P.S. BAN KRAPPY KELL !!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco expects free agent DE/OLB Mario Williams to become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL if he hits the open market.
Williams has the No. 1 overall pick pedigree, the measurables, the age (just turned 27), the versatility, and the production to incite a feeding frenzy once the cap-strapped Texans pass on the franchise tag at $22.9 million. SI.com’s Don Banks suggests the Bills, Jags, and Bucs as the top three suitors, with the Packers as a wild card.
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HD37,
can you imagine if the G-Men signed him? yikes!
However, these guys are ALL still under contract:
90 Jason Pierre-Paul DE
91 Justin Tuck DE
72 Osi Umenyiora DE
94 Mathias Kiwanuka OLB
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
HayesDaze37 you know you are saying that we should pay Bush more money than Macfadden will make next year.
Is a backup RB worth 6 Million a season?
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
1116.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I would love for the Raiders to be coached by Tomlin
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CJL,
Dennis Allen & Jason Tarver are basically white versions of Mike Tomlin & Leslie Frazier imo
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RR – I hope so dude. That would be beyond cool!!!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
1141.HayesDaze37 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Give MBush29 $16-18 Million for 3-years, with $12 Million guaranteed…
First year salary/bonus $8 Mill…$5 Mill in year-2…and $3 Mill + easy incentives in year 3.
$6 Mill per is about what he’s going to get on the market right now…no reason for us to let MBush go anywhere.
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Sounds about right to me. 5.5 million a year for 3 years for Bush, plus incentives in a cap friendly deal is good for him to stay with Raiders IMO.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
You have no idea if he could recruit or not.We already know he can’t coach very well.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
That’s a lot of talent right there.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
1144.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco expects free agent DE/OLB Mario Williams to become the highest paid defensive player in the NFL if he hits the open market.
Williams has the No. 1 overall pick pedigree, the measurables, the age (just turned 27), the versatility, and the production to incite a feeding frenzy once the cap-strapped Texans pass on the franchise tag at $22.9 million. SI.com’s Don Banks suggests the Bills, Jags, and Bucs as the top three suitors, with the Packers as a wild card.
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HD37,
can you imagine if the G-Men signed him? yikes!
However, these guys are ALL still under contract:
90 Jason Pierre-Paul DE
91 Justin Tuck DE
72 Osi Umenyiora DE
94 Mathias Kiwanuka OLB
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I thought Osi is going to be a free agent, and I heard chances are the Giants will let him go?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Maybe now that the well has dryed up, Hue can go back and apply for his old job back with the Raiders.
HC??? No, no, no…….yellow-jacket wearing security guy
February 9th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
A backup RB who ends up being your starting RB, especially with Bush’s ability, is absolutely worth $6 Million.
Look at the starting salaries of top-flight RB’s…Bush is just below that level, and just as valuable to us, so he should be paid like it. The open market is a funny place…and he’ll make more than $5 Million per for at least a year or two elsewhere.
I say keep our warriors, and Bush is a good, RELIABLE, troop.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
I myself would rather let Bush go and pay a rookie 650K a year to be our backup RB and spend the 5 million on defense.
But I am not Reggie.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
I thought Osi is going to be a free agent, and I heard chances are the Giants will let him go?
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DK007,
Giants DE Osi Umenyiora refused to comment on his future following Sunday’s Super Bowl win.
“Whatever happens next season happens,” he said. The fact that Umenyiora wasn’t willing to offer the Giants an olive branch just moments after winning the Super Bowl is a sign he’s ready for another contract showdown. Going into the final season of the seven-year, $41.38 million deal he signed in 2005, Umenyiora is currently set to make $3.975 million in 2012.
Feb 6 – 8:29 AM
Source: New York Daily News
February 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
“Look at the starting salaries of top-flight RB’s…Bush is just below that level, and just as valuable to us, so he should be paid like it. The open market is a funny place…and he’ll make more than $5 Million per for at least a year or two elsewhere.
I say keep our warriors, and Bush is a good, RELIABLE, troop.”
Good point!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
1148.lefty12 Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
You have no idea if he could recruit or not.We already know he can’t coach very well.
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Really?
You have no idea how hard it is to win a division with an incompetent Defensive Coordinator, a legendary owner and defacto GM dying, and losing both the starting QB and the RB who is the best offensive weapon and best player on the team mid season is.
ALL in your 1st season as head coach.
Not too easy…..is it bruh?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I knew I recognized that dude, Vegas! Section 106!!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
JFB,he’d be backstabbing his co-workers trying to get to be head dude.I doubt he’d last too long.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
2 years is about average for big O coliseum security, too. No wonder he’s gone.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
The steeler’s released Bryant McFadden on Wednesday…I wonder if he is worth a look?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Bring me Osi…
February 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Hey, I just said he should apply, no guaranteeing he gets hired.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I do know if our HC last season hadn’t been so out-coached in the 2nd half of games and had scored a few more 2nd half points,our terrible defense wouldn’t have been put in the situations they were put in to lose games.It is also hilarious when you guys fall back on the claim he was a 1st year HC when the previous year everyone said he was actually running the team and Cable was nothing but a figure head.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
According to most, everything positive in 2010 was due to Hue and everything negative was due to Cable.
Can’t cherry-pick credit or blame, IMO.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Tough call on Bryant McFadden…he had a lost season, so he’s got a lot to prove health-wise first. 7-years in, has he lost a step?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Bryant McFadden may be worth a look, but if we are relying on him down the stretch to make 3rd down stops, we are in deep doo-doo
February 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Well…Hue didn’t do much to dispel that thinking, Vegas. Remember the (paraphrasing) “I told Coach Cable to make the switch,” or “It was my decision…oh, along with…”
The dude is one egomaniac…a machine that must be fed. He did preach Raiders, though. He carried the flag the best way he knew how. I wish him well. I’m glad he’s gone.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
“The Contra Costa Times’ Steve Corkran believes Raiders DT Richard Seymour is a candidate for release.
Seymour is due a $7.5 million roster bonus in addition to his 2012 base salary of $7.5 million, but still played at a high level at the age of 32 in 2011, grading out as Pro Football Focus’ 11th best defensive tackle. He could be more of a candidate for renegotiation than outright release”
source; Rotoworld
Maybe Seymour re-negotiates
Steelers’ McFadden could be a nickel or dime, but he was repeatedly picked on. Not an upgrade, Raiders better off keeping Lito.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Re-negotiate Seymour, see what he feels about a trade back East? Where he has kept his home?
Osi would move for the promise of the right price in negotiations…and you know Coughlin doesn’t want this headache or distraction.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
The Raiders have released cornerback Stanford Routt.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
The above post is serious. Per the Raiders’ Twitter. Wow.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I have nightmares of the once-awesome Terry McDaniel getting old-man legs and speed overnight. He was burned as much as anybody in the League his last season on the field. Sad to see.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
W O W.
This must be the big cut Corkran was talking about that was going to show everyone the Al Davis Scholarship Plan was gone.
I thought it’d be either Seymour or McClain.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Just got confirmation that Stan has indeed been released.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Really to Routt huh?
Well, nobody was a better posterchild of overpaid, undisciplined as him.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Writers LMAO!!!!!!
Tomlin looks weak? Rooneys can be cute if they want too. Tomlin would get hired by another team in a NY minute!!!
I would love for the Raiders to be coached by Tomlin.
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That was a questionable hire for the Steelers. Haley acts like a jackass at times, and needs to reign it in. If anybody will get Tomlin fired, it will be 1. getting swept by Cleveland and Haley pulling his “Bill Parcells, Jr.” act on offense.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
We knoe where were savin’ some money now
February 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
know*
February 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Routt would have perfect coverage, than out of nowhere just yank the guy done by his shoulder.
Never learned to play the ball or trust his talents.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
If Stan’s gone, I’m sure there will be more to come.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
And what will be The Rest Of The Story with Routt?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
JDJohnDickinson John Dickinson
The #Raiders announce they have cut Stanford Routt @957thegame
February 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Stanford Routt released?
Maybe its Tracy Porter time.
“ESPN’s Bill Williamson speculates that the Raiders will show interest in free agent CB Tracy Porter this offseason.
Porter had his best years in the league when current Raiders head coach Dennis Allen was coaching DBs in New Orleans. Oakland had all kinds of trouble at right cornerback this past season, rotating Chris Johnson, rookie Demarcus Van Dyke, and finally Lito Sheppard at the position. It’s the same spot Porter played in New Orleans. He also has the ability to cover the slot.”
Source;rotoworld
February 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
It’s hard to hide from the mighty Red Dot!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Wow, saw it first on Twitter. Routt definitely not who I thought would get cut first as thin as we are at corner.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Sends a very loud message
February 9th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Well, now we can go draft 3 corners next year
Al Davis lives!!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
So our starting CB’s as of right now are…DVD and Chekwa???
February 9th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
whoa i came straight here when i heard about Routt,just now
Holly shchit…
as @1180 said if he goes then peeps on notice,
he was grossly overpaid,
February 9th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
/me thinks our starting corners for next year are not yet on the squad
February 9th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
AND SO IT BEGINS..
February 9th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
I wonder if Routt’s beyond ridiculous quotes that this was a good defense at the end of the year, and his unwillingness to take any accountability all season, had anything to do with this.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
lets start shopping!
Brent Grimes
Cortland Finnegan
Brandon Carr
Carlos Rogers
Terrell Thomas
Rashean Mathis
Aaron Ross
Eric Wright
Richard Marshall
Tracy Porter
Marcus Trufant
William Gay
Tim Jennings
Jason Allen
Kelvin Hayden
Kelly Jennings
Justin Tryon
Corey Graham
Pacman Jones
Zackary Bowman
Will Allen
Benny Sapp
Dimitri Patterson
Ronde Barber
Alan Ball
Phillip Buchanon
Patrick Lee
Jonathan Wilhite
Elbert Mack
Donald Strickland
Justin King
Michael Coe
David Jones
Reggie Corner
Roderick Hood
Travis Daniels
Cletis Gordon
Frank Walker
Will Blackmon
Brandon McDonald
Leigh Torrence
Anthony Madison
February 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
VERY deep class of cornerbacks in both FA and the draft this year.
Interesting stuff.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I think Chekwa will be in the mix for sure.
Much more so than DVD.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Brandon Carr is my #1 choice. But Tracy Porter is a more likely target. Richard Marshall would be a nice low-cost option.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Sam,
how does the 11th best DT make the Pro Bowl?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
WOW ROUTT OUT RIGHT CUT?!?!?!??!?! DAAAYYYUUUUM
BIG MACK AND THEM MEAN BUSINESS
February 9th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RAIDER_NATION
The fact that Routt wasn’t traded says alot about what the rest of the league thought of his contract.
1 minute ago from Twitter for Android
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THIS. Reggie probably couldn’t find any takers at $10 mil/year.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
The only question is who’s next
February 9th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
What happened to 2 years 20 million guaranteed $ for Stan Routt that all these cats were reporting last year?
No way we just ate 10 million guaranteed.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Raiders released Routt?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I liked Richard Marshall a lot coming out of college, but I think he is in a long line of Fresno State knuckleheads.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Huff to Corner?????
LOL!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
again Youngamerican on the button
I was thinking Carr as top choice also..
And what wa sit 16PI on routt, thats just unacceptable.
Hope he dont go to a rival an pick palmer off for the next few seasons..
February 9th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
DVD and Chimdi both look like good young players. They’ll both “get it.”
February 9th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I wonder if he was given an opportunity to restructure. If Routt is gone Seymour should be the one packing bags for the both of them.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
All right Cork/Jerry, hurry up and post something, so our more pertinant conversation is not disrupted.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Methinks that if Rolando doesn’t shape up by the first OTA, he’ll be gone as well. Nobody’s safe right now.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Couldn’t get rid of Routt fast enough…. I dont care about any stat that said Routt was Ok…. He couldn’t cover a pissant with a blanket
February 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Somewhere, AIG is beyond excited!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Christopher Hansen
$5 million savings over the next 4 years + base salaries from 2013-2015. 2012 base $5 guaranteed. Total cap savings this year $1.25 million.
just now from Tweetlogix
February 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
So in 2010, the “burn” rankings had the Raiders with the #2, #3, and #5 ranked DB’s.
In 2012, none of them will be on the team, lol.
Burn this!!!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
LOL Brownie and your Seymour Schit..
February 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Huff next?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Sam,
how does the 11th best DT make the Pro Bowl?
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on reputation, no doubt – Routt release sends a message.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Huff next?
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I would doubt it, but who knows? The reshaping has begun, and Lord knows we need it.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Damn, we cut him and only saved $1.25 million in cap room?
Hell, we can get that by cutting two fringe players.
This was not a contract cutting, coach Allen and McKenzie must not have been impressed.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Let the gutting begin!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
LET THE PURGING BEGIN!
RAIDERS should put a sign outside the facility,
“UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT”
February 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Hopefully it was no worse than this…
Reggie: Hi Stan…we were wondering how open you’d be to renegotiating your contract for the Team. We’ll make it worth your while in the long run.
Routt: Ummm, No, Mr. McKenzie, it’s my one and only mega-deal, and I don’t want to give money back. Besides, I spent an awful lot of it already.
Reggie, to D.A.: Hello, Coach…can we handle losing Stanford Routt, if I bring in comparable talent for a better price?
D.A.: Yes, Reggie…I think we can handle it.
Reggie, to Routt: Please clean your locker, son. Good luck to you in the future.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I liked Richard Marshall a lot coming out of college, but I think he is in a long line of Fresno State knuckleheads.
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a long line of knuckleheads who can tackle and cover. Doubtful AZ lets him walk, Patrick Peterson was awful in coverage and Greg Toler and AJ Jefferson struggled with injuries…
February 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Next up R Seymour, and MM34 on deck
February 9th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Routt an Al man. Buh bye…
February 9th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
We saved 1.25 million in cap, and dished out $5 million guaranteed.
Obvioulsy, Reggie went on the horn to try to trade him and was laughed off the line.
Told you guys, we can’t trade any of these guys (Seymour, TK, McClain, Huff, McFadden etc.) for crap due to their contracts.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I would love to be a fly on the wall when McKenzie and Allen are evaluating personnell.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
This shows that McKenzie and Allen do have a Plan……except for a very few the Players on the Defense, they all should be waiting for a phone call…….McKenzie..Do It !
February 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
finally accountability for performance and production is at the forefront, a lot of players will be by the phone,
February 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
MM34 should be waived, and go work on his resume.
His professional football life is about over.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
So if routt can go regardless of contract and lockerooom status EVERBODY IS ON NOTICE.
romac and palmer better play well out of the gate or they will get the axe too
February 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
1221. Reggie: “Hi Stan? Heard you said I looked like I ate Chubby Checker.”
Stan: “Thats right. Lets do the twist.”
Reggie:”Twist in the wind Staniel. U hurt my feelers.”
February 9th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
What do we do about Tyvon Branch, throw the bank at him?? or not….
February 9th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Meanwhile, Holland just got added to the staff, and Keith Burns is NOT the secondary coach, but asst. Special Teams instead.
Wikipedia edits coming presently.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
I think Branch resigns…
February 9th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
I had high hopes for MM34…. Tatum he is not… All bark and no bite for Mike..
February 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
The Raiders have added two assistants to the coaching staff, assistant special teams coach Keith Burns and linebackers coach Johnny Holland.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
11th best d tackle lol
Its like little league t ball everyone gets a trophy
February 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
1218.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Damn, we cut him and only saved $1.25 million in cap room?
Hell, we can get that by cutting two fringe players.
This was not a contract cutting, coach Allen and McKenzie must not have been impressed.
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The guy signed a contract that guaranteed him 20 million the first 2 years.
How in the heck can we wipe a 10 million dollar salary off the books and SAVE 1.25 million against the cap?
NFL salaries and salary cap are a damn joke!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Mistic..agree…a lot of our players are waiting for that call …except for the Palmer part.. Lol
February 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Wonder if Routt cut was after a request to restructure or a straight our your outta here decision? Would certainly be interesting to know. Rolando McWhiffer is probably under review right now I’d imagine. Other under-performers include Huff, MM34, Lito Sheppard & Blackstock to mention a few.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Routt circles the drain and is….gone.
This schit is awesome.
Love the slap to the side of the head to the collective roster. HA!
February 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Johnny Holland
My scoop comes to fruition.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Seymour might be next. “Roster bonus” not guaranteed.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Raiders release Routt huh?
I wonder how much money was saved though when it comes freeing up cap room?
Probably not much is saved this year, but next year, I would think a crap load would be saved?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
MM34 has just scratched the surface of his career. It’s not time to toss him overboard yet…it’s time for him to play more, not less. THEN, we’ll see if he can play with the big boys.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
“What do we do about Tyvon Branch, throw the bank at him?? or not….”
Let the free agent market dictate his price and then offer him a contract based on what he is actually worth.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I wonder who’s next?
February 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Routt’s contract was only guaranteed if he was on the roster as of Friday.
Great move.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Giving Routt that contract was a joke, especially when old man Al could have used that money to keep Nnamdi if anything.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
JB Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Wonder if Routt cut was after a request to restructure or a straight our your outta here decision? Would certainly be interesting to know. Rolando McWhiffer is probably under review right now I’d imagine. Other under-performers include Huff, MM34, Lito Sheppard & Blackstock to mention a few.
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no need to wonder just know every one and evreything is in play. i doubt there are any untochables outside of lil wiz, veldeheer
February 9th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I like it ..!…. McKenzie isn’t fooling around….
No more slackers on our team ..
February 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Wow never thought i see routt get cut first. Nnamdi is somewhere laughing but that means we are really getting a FA corner i hope one is finnegan
February 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
# DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Routt’s contract was only guaranteed if he was on the roster as of Friday.
Great move.
^^^^^^^^^
My buddy just text me that.
It is a great move. I wonder if McK franchises Bush or Branch and I wonder who gets the long term deal between Branch and Bush now with Routts contract gone.
February 9th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
@HayesDaze37
I like your comment, i really like MM34 have done since he was drafted, love his passion etc.. But he is always that guy in the highlight reels getting burned, whiffing a tackle.. If he is costing us points and ultimatly games then well…we will see i guess
February 9th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
The problem with Mitchell is that he gets second round money and plays like minimum wage.
February 9th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Someone educate me on Cortlan finnegan, is he all mouth and push an shove or can he acually cover..
February 9th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Michell-gone Bush-gone cant block
February 9th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Bush cant block! Nothing over 3mil a year for that
February 9th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I think Seymour would probably prefer to get back on the East Coast, than listen to the Rah, Rah of a little kid DC.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:25 am
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