Raiders free agents quandary
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, February 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders have a penchant for re-signing a majority of their prospective free agents. Doing so this season won’t be nearly as easy, given they have 22 such players, they are $11 million over the salary cap and there is a burning need to sign a few players in free agency.
Here is a breakdown of how new coach Dennis Allen and first-year general manager Reggie McKenzie figure to approach the daunting task of what to do with the long list:
Easy calls — Two of those names can be crossed off the list simply by offering restricted free agents Marcel Reece and Desmond Bryant one-year tenders. Both players are young, productive and won’t cost much.
The Raiders can let walk quarterbacks Jason Campbell and Kyle Boller, defensive end Trevor Scott, safety Jerome Boyd, cornerback Lito Sheppard, linebackers Ricky Brown, Quentin Groves and Darryl Blackstock and wide receivers T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chaz Schilens.
They already have a starting quarterback in Carson Palmer and a No. 3 in Terrelle Pryor. Signing someone such as David Garrard would take care of the primary backup spot.
There is no burning need to bring back for any of the eight other veterans who are eligible to become free agents March 13.
Tough calls — Running back Michael Bush wants to be a starting running back. He realizes that isn’t apt to happen in Oakland as long as Darren McFadden is on the roster.
Therefore, Bush likely won’t be interested in a long-term contract. Given that, the Raiders have to decide whether they want to use the franchise tag on Bush, to the tune of $7.7 million or so for 2012.
McKenzie has a history of working for a team that finds unheralded running backs and develops them into productive players. He also has McFadden and Taiwan Jones on the roster.
That makes it unlikely that Bush will be franchise-tagged. If so, the only other player who might get that designation is strong safety Tyvon Branch.
It’s more likely that the Raiders will try to work out a long-term contract with Branch so that they can avoid committing a ton of money to Branch for 2012, when they need to use some of that money on other players.
Center Samson Satele was re-signed last year and started all season. It’s possible that the Raiders will switch second-year player Stefen Wisniewski from left guard to center and try someone else at guard. If not, look for Satele to be re-signed.
Toss-ups — Offensive linemen Stephon Heyer and Khalif Barnes, defensive end Jarvis Moss, safety Matt Giordano and running back Rock Cartwright played key roles last season.
Re-signing any of those players likely will depend upon their willingness to return at a modest price and whether they receive better offers elsewhere.
Once Allen and McKenzie sort out this mess, then they can turn their attention toward free agents from other teams.
As of now, the Raiders are in the market for a cornerback, wide receiver, linebacker and defensive lineman. Freeing up enough cap space will be key to placing the Raiders in a position to go after some of the top-tier players expected to hit the open market next month.
That process is underway right now. The Raiders can reach cap compliance by the March 13 deadline by cutting a few more players and/or restructuring wieghty contracts of players such as Palmer, linebacker Kamerion Wimbley, cornerback Chris Johnson, defensive tackles John Henderson and Tommy Kelly and free safety Michael Huff.
Here is the entire list of Oakland’s prospective free agents:
QB Jason Campbell
QB Kyle Boller
*FB Marcel Reece
RB Michael Bush
RB Rock Cartwright
WR Chaz Schilens
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh
C Samson Satele
OT Khalif Barnes
OT Stephon Heyer
*DE Desmond Bryant
DE Trevor Scott
DE Jarvis Moss
LB Ricky Brown
LB Quentin Groves
LB Darryl Blackstock
CB Lito Sheppard
CB Stanford Routt
FS Matt Giordano
SS Tyvon Branch
SS Jerome Boyd
DB Bryan McCann
*Restricted
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February 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Haze, you are 1 pathetic fool.
lmao @ this one!
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HayesDaze37 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 11:34 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
KK — Where were you last night when Dorian was in here spewing his filth? Thought you’d come swooping-in to beat him down, like Batman. Somebody should’ve shined a big K across the sky.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Let’s talk adding another WR from the Free Agent pool…
Anybody advocating bringing in a Jeremy Cotchery (hello, YA), isn’t thinking too clearly.
The last thing we need is an aged (not aging) vet, who is neither as fast as, nor as elusive as our current young group. Remember Hoosyermama last year? His addition was a forgetable one, for sure.
First…the guy needs GREAT hands. Second, he needs to be fast (and more importantly, fluid while being fast). The oldest legs, with great hands, we should even consider from the Free Agent pool is Reggie Wayne.
Bring in Manningham or Pierre Garcon or Reggie Wayne…and imagine that guy in the slot, with DHB and DMoore on the outside. And…the 4-wide sets with Jacoby Ford out there. It would be a great WR group, and the rotation would keep them all fresher.
Bring in another fast, experienced WR with great hands, and Carson Palmer will throw for more than 4,000-yds next year. Defenses will be gassed trying to cover all the possibilities.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Keep Heyer, Branch, Gio, McCann, Bryant, Reece, Cartwright, Bush
Sh!t can the rest.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
MB — Take your antagonizing, racist attitude elsewhere. You’re not worth much effort from me. Find another troll to banter with. Banter: it’s a word.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Haze,
Whats your fascination with sucking on KK’s teets ?
February 16th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Haze you aint going to label me a racist even a d-bag like 666 said he has never seen anything racist from me. You are nothing but a derelict little kunt throwing the race card around like a pu$$y.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Restructure, then concentrate on other teams FA’s…nice! March 13th…not too far away!
February 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
“MB — Take your antagonizing, racist attitude elsewhere. You’re not worth much effort from me. Find another troll to banter with. Banter: it’s a word.”
I have found that you cannot have a reasonable or logical debate with a person who can barely construct a complete sentence.
If Borwnstains went back to JR High school and learned the English language he might be able to read and write better but until that happens its useless trying to communicate with the guy.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Just please give me some Run stuffers…
February 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
David Garrard?? Healthy (or healthier), yes…but not now. His back MAY heal after surgery, it may not…or, it may for awhile, and then be bad again.
You avoid Garrard for the same reasons you avoid Peyton Manning. Either find a way to keep JCampbell, or go get Orton ($$)…but there aren’t too QB’s out there I’d feel comfy with as my #2.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
yo
February 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
*there aren’t too MANY QB’s out there I’d feel comfy with at #2
February 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Garrard wouldn’t be signed if he couldn’t pass the physical so if we signed him to be our #2 that would mean our medical staff and GM had decided he was capable of filling the role.
February 16th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
They already have a starting quarterback in Carson Palmer and a No. 3 in Terrelle Pryor. Signing someone such as David Garrard would take care of the primary backup spot.
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cockran, you automatically assume that TPRYOR is the number 3….
TPRYOR with a full training camp can and will ascend to No 2…
We don’t need garrard or any other retread. We just need to develop PRYOR…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Tag Darren McFadden!
Just make sure the tag reads: IRREGULAR – 1/2 OFF OBO
February 16th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
MB — I don’t know why you come in here just for scrappin.’ Most would just as soon not read about your attitudes…towards just about everything. And, I don’t have to make you out to be a racist…you prove it on the regular.
Now…run along and play on the freeway or something.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
15.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Tag Darren McFadden!
Just make sure the tag reads: IRREGULAR – 1/2 OFF OBO
LOL
What’s up Thec?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
TPRYOR may be a #2 but not at quarterback.
Guy is VERY WEAK MINDED and will not fool Reggie or Knapp with his supposed “athleticism”.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Keep Chaz…He is not going to cost much…
His contract should be tied to games played,games suited and games contributed…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Hwnrdr, all is well. whats up Brethren?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Why did the Raiders bother hiring RegMac when we already had Corky and his 17 years of Raiders “insider”?
What a know-nothing joker, he couldn’t break a story even if it hit him in the mug.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
IF our D could have half a$$ed stop the run last year
where do you all think we would have ended up in the end?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Keep Chaz…He is not going to cost much…
His contract should be tied to games played,games suited and games contributed…
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No. Enough with Glass Schillens wasting a roster space for 10 games so he can backup in the other 6.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Given Corkrans meeting with McKenzie yesterday, I gotta figure the above article is gospel.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
TPRYOR may be a #2 but not at quarterback.
Guy is VERY WEAK MINDED and will not fool Reggie or Knapp with his supposed “athleticism”.
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“Very Weak minded”, based on what?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
TRADE Darren McFadden…take 1st and 3rd- round picks, or this year’s 1st and next year’s 2nd.
Go after Matt Forte, in a big way…but structure his bonus to be spread long-term. Franchise Mike Bush. Pay him the $7.7 million…he would be guaranteed more than that in a long-term signing anyway, here or elsewhere.
A backfield of Matt Forte & Mike Bush = the best backfield in the NFL since Marcus and Bo. No, I don’t put Mike Bush in Bo’s category, but he’s damn good…and Matt Forte does everything just like Marcus used to.
Ahh…to dream.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Haze I don’t know you come in here falsely calling me a racist. Does it make you feel better? I also don’t know why you would suck on KK’s teets.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Wimbley snookered Al.
Wouldn’t restructure for less guaranteed dough after Al franchised him, and now probably won’t do anything contractually to help us out either.
Dude is set to make more than Terrell Suggs next year!!!
Cut his once a month, one-trick pony azz!!!!!
February 16th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Zopi Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Why did the Raiders bother hiring RegMac when we already had Corky and his 17 years of Raiders “insider”?
What a know-nothing joker, he couldn’t break a story even if it hit him in the mug.
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hahahahahahaha….Nail meet Hammer.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Wimbley snookered Al.
Wouldn’t restructure for less guaranteed dough after Al franchised him, and now probably won’t do anything contractually to help us out either.
Dude is set to make more than Terrell Suggs next year!!!
Cut his once a month, one-trick pony azz!!!!!
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Exactly. Based on his production, nobody out there’s going to pay him even 1/2 of what we would, restructure or no. If he thinks he’s getting Mario Williams-type $$$$ based on one sack every 5 weeks with a monster game against a backup SD tackle, he’s nuts.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
BrownStains, you ARE a racist pos. Hello?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Interesting, what to do with Wiz 2.0.
Pretty clear, that drafting him and immediately calling him the starter C was an Al call, and he is still fairly green as a Center (still not 16 career games under his belt at C in all of college and the pro’s).
Could be our starting Guard again next season.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
NAZRAIDER Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
IF our D could have half a$$ed stop the run last year
where do you all think we would have ended up in the end?
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1. AFC west title
2. Home game in the tournament.
3. Tournament win against picksburg.
4. Playing at NE in the tournament.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
The whole blog knows MB is a bigot.
He clearly can’t stand when our equatorial brethren get a top-notch education, start expressing themselves well, and get elected to powerful offices by the vast majority of us citizens in this progressive and diverse nation we call AMERICA.
He would rather focus on what color their lips are, perverted bigot that he is.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
KK Munster, you are a racist and a dumb POS
February 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Tag Darren McFadden!
Just make sure the tag reads: IRREGULAR – 1/2 OFF OBO
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hahahahahahahaha….Thats good…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Interesting, what to do with Wiz 2.0.
Pretty clear, that drafting him and immediately calling him the starter C was an Al call, and he is still fairly green as a Center (still not 16 career games under his belt at C in all of college and the pro’s).
Could be our starting Guard again next season.
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On the other hand, he did a really good job when called to play C last season. He’d be fine at either position.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
MB — You’re spreading manure again…
I regularly smack-around KK…when he’s WRONG. But the funny thing is…you ride KK harder than almost everyone else, and he is by FAR your intellectual superior. You can’t even manage a debate with him past “party” politics or racial boundaries. That is the sign of a very weak mind.
Stop embarrassing yourself…come back tomorrow, and try to grow up.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The whole blog knows you are a cross posting derelict, and a liar.
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Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
The whole blog knows MB is a bigot.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
“Very Weak minded”, based on what?
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Based on trading his coaches career, his senior season, and OSU’s rep for tattoos and used cars.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
KK Munster, you are a racist and a dumb POS
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YOU, calling someone “dumb”. Priceless.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Actually, In my opinion, I doubt very seriously that MB is a bigot…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Calling me a racist is a lie they repeat because they have nothing else.
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Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Actually, In my opinion, I doubt very seriously that MB is a bigot…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
“Very Weak minded”, based on what?
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Based on trading his coaches career, his senior season, and OSU’s rep for tattoos and used cars.
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Youngster making bad decisions…Has he learned from it?
Cant dismiss him as a talent based on a few indiscretions.
Truth be told, the colleges that rip off these youngsters should be paying them, above the table, not under.
Cant blame him for all t hat ails college sports however, the exploitation that goes on at that level is abysmal…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
TAG JASON CAMPBELL, GO GET JIMMY CLAUSEN , TRADE CARSON PALMER TO SEHAWKS.. WE WIN .
February 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Actually, In my opinion, I doubt very seriously that MB is a bigot…
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Well then you probably believe Sandusky44 is a Raider fan too.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Actually, In my opinion, I doubt very seriously that MB is a bigot…
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Thanks, Brien’s groupie.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Youngster making bad decisions…Has he learned from it?
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Zero evidence he has.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
TAG JASON CAMPBELL, GO GET JIMMY CLAUSEN , TRADE CARSON PALMER TO SEHAWKS.. WE WIN .
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then you awoke from your slumber…
We are tied to CP for the foreseeable future…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Youngster making bad decisions…Has he learned from it?
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Zero evidence he has.
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Zero he hasn’t
February 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
“Could be our starting Guard again next season.”
What to do with Satele what to do with Cooper Carlisle?
These kinds of decisions will effect weather or not Wiz stays at Guard or moves to Center.
I have seen Satele be dominate one week and a push over the next I am not sure if its who he is going up against or weather or not he was playing hurt.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Cant dismiss him as a talent based on a few indiscretions.
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Talent at QB requires good judgment.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Then…why can’t MB talk about anything else for more than 75% of his posts? He’s got a mind like a steel trap. It’s been padlocked closed, and rusted beyond hope. It’ll never open.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
this hands down the funniest dude on youtube . he need his own show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WbpSxvEDZs&feature=channel
February 16th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Zero he hasn’t
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Ah, so your TP evalualtion is faith based.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
My question is, why does the Ohio State University, rose bowl winning QB need to trade anything for tattoo’s?
I question his ability to be taken advantage of more so than the act.
He should be able to say, “I am Terrell Pryor, ever heard of me? Great, I’ll take 3 hours of your best artist and a Monte Cristo for lunch. Thanks”
February 16th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
WOOO HOOO … ITS 4:20
February 16th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Actually, In my opinion, I doubt very seriously that MB is a bigot…
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Well then you probably believe Sandusky44 is a Raider fan too.
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No I don’t believe that however, I have spoken with MB outside of this blog. Even tried hooking up with him before a game on sat at a bar. If he was so “Racist” as purported why would he even entertain the Idea of us hanging out?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Zero he hasn’t
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Ah, so your TP evalualtion is faith based.
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I have a gut feeling about him…It is usually right when it comes to players…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Buccaneers released DT Albert Haynesworth.
Haynesworth had no chance of returning at $7.2 million. The timing suggests new coach Greg Schiano wanted no part of the headache regardless. Failing to make a positive impact in seven games with the Bucs, Haynesworth played a part in one of the league’s most embarrassing defensive showings down the stretch. While his talent continues to tempt coaches around the league, Haynesworth is running out of opportunities entering his age-31 season.
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Here’s 1 jabroni Mckenzie will not be pursuing in Free agency.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Wow Brownstains is in here making friends again!
He does it to himself then he claims that we are all the same person posting with different monikers so he feels better about the amount of crap he eats in here.
Wake up man you are abrasive and rub many of us the wrong way. I have tired more than once to be cordial to you and you act like an ass every time.
You made your bed now you have to lie in it….back to Satele…..
February 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Cant dismiss him as a talent based on a few indiscretions.
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Talent at QB requires good judgment.
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Did he show good judgment on the filed of battle?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Youngster making bad decisions…Has he learned from it?
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Zero evidence he has.
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Further discovery of evidence is needed in the 2012 pre-season.
the Raiders will get a veteran back-up, anyway.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Further discovery of evidence is needed in the 2012 pre-season.
the Raiders will get a veteran back-up, anyway.
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and that vet will be number 3 on the depth chart…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
C’mon, Thec…you can’t be that naive. We all know (even if some of us aren’t aware of it) somebody who is a racist…who actually works, plays, eats with, and are even married to somebody from a group they blindly hate.
It took me about a week after MB started coming in here to realize his true nature. He’s mean…and hateful…and he plays the class-warfare system like a 9th-grade social studies student. Who also happens to be a racist.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
If Wimbly will not restructure I guarantee he will be cut there is no way Reggie keeps him at 11 million!
February 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Sorry, got caught up in work…lol…all good Thec! Gearing up for this 3 day weekend coming up!
February 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RGIII will be a Brown I am convinced they will go after him.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
If Wimbly will not restructure I guarantee he will be cut there is no way Reggie keeps him at 11 million!
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Raiders have interest in Vinny Curry and Jake Baquette, so that cut is a foregone conclusion….but Wimbley has to see what the market yields….
February 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
HayesDaze37
whats your opinion on Satele?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Wimbley is toast.
I think he is another dude, who is smart, rather sophisticated, and has options outside of football, that couldn’t happen soon enough in his eyes.
Football is not a way of life for him, it is a job. Earned that tag in Cleveland, and see nothing that changes my perception on it.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
C’mon, Thec…you can’t be that naive.
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Honestly, you do not know enough about me to even come close to that conclusion.
I can and have had civil conversations with MB. I got no problem with him, for those that do that on you…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Sorry, got caught up in work…lol…all good Thec! Gearing up for this 3 day weekend coming up!
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what holiday is it?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
If Palmer does not restructure then he should be cut. Over”rated
February 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
If Wimbley was a boar hunter, why would such a freak athlete like him, disappear for long stretches? Why would he let gumpy white TE’s, manhandle him from time to times. Not just block him, but ride him out to the sidelines?
Because he is thinking about trying out for Broadway and what to do with his BAC shares.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RaidO Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
If Palmer does not restructure then he should be cut. Over”rated
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even without coach Jackson we are tied to the hip with Palmer.
I just hope he improves in the int department.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Seymour got his $22.5 Mill guarantee (early…the Raiders didn’t even need to trigger the payment yet)…and he’s talking about restructuring. Wibley’s situation is like Routt’s…how much is he worth to restructure…and how much will it cost to just let him walk? He’s got extraordinary closing speed and talent when locked-on a QB…but his overall game needs upgrading.
This team is very close to having the pieces for a base 3-4 defense, with other schemes peppered in. A coached-up Kam Wimbley in a 3-4 could be a thing of beauty.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
73.Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Sorry, got caught up in work…lol…all good Thec! Gearing up for this 3 day weekend coming up!
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what holiday is it?
Presidents Day!
February 16th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
“Raiders have interest in Vinny Curry and Jake Baquette, so that cut is a foregone conclusion….but Wimbley has to see what the market yields….”
Vinny Curry 6′4 263
Jake Baquette 6′5 271
Both good prospects but will they be there when we finally get a pick?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
why people think we stuck wit carson palmer ? anybody can be cut .
February 16th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
A “Vinny” at LB?
Does he fist-pump and have a sweet blow-out?
Can I call him Vincenze?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
TRADE Darren McFadden…take 1st and 3rd- round picks, or this year’s 1st and next year’s 2nd.
Go after Matt Forte, in a big way…but structure his bonus to be spread long-term. Franchise Mike Bush. Pay him the $7.7 million…he would be guaranteed more than that in a long-term signing anyway, here or elsewhere.
A backfield of Matt Forte & Mike Bush = the best backfield in the NFL since Marcus and Bo. No, I don’t put Mike Bush in Bo’s category, but he’s damn good…and Matt Forte does everything just like Marcus used to.
Ahh…to dream.
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Forte is coming off a very serious injury … Raiders would have to match whatever Bears throw at him, then probably Franchise Bush as well (if we dont franchise T.Branch).
Think the organization is moving away from high price players and RB’s values are diminished in this era. Doug Martin and Terrance Ganaway could be had. Think Marshawn Lynch might be a value as well….
February 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Thec…just saying they are everywhere…and we have plenty of pleasant, normal conversations with them. When THEY want it that way. You dig the dude, fine…more power to ya. But, I know what I read from him…and someone else’s cordial conversations with him don’t mean anything to me.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Doug Martin would be pretty sweet.
He can return kicks (trade Jacoby), and has great hands out of the backfield.
Will he fall to pick #97? Not so sure, but maybe.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
who cares bout wimbleys interest outside of football. we want a raiders linebacker that cares bout stopping the run. knocking down a pass and sacking a q.b. so if wimbley has so mucj character and intelligence to change the world then he needs to retire so we can get sum football players .
February 16th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Anyone in here talking football?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
SandB — Satele?? More than serviceable, in the top-half of Centers in the League…BUT, I’d still like a younger Center to knock him into a utility-man position.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
why people think we stuck wit carson palmer ? anybody can be cut .
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OK, I will humor you. We cut Palmer, who starts 2012?
February 16th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
TRADE Darren McFadden…take 1st and 3rd- round picks, or this year’s 1st and next year’s 2nd.
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Nobody’s giving up a 1st AND a 3rd (or 2nd) for anyone with DMac’s injury history.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Think Marshawn Lynch might be a value as well…
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Not a good fit in Oakland, he will be staying in the Sea.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Got a good friend (old dude) who is a Browns fan, and told me about Kamerion when we picked.
Great with the community, great dude, really smart, passionate about charities and kids foundations, no passion for football, will quit or retire at an early age.
I see it all happening.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Its harder to pick FAs in reality than it is on Madden.
Simply plugging in guys like V Jax or Plax or TO or Moss doesn’t take into account factors like salary, locker room and off field issues.
I feel like thats one of Davis’ old knocks. Like somehow just because they were a Raider now the freedom they’d receive would make the grateful and make them want to perform.
Its hasn;t been the 70s for a long time and too many of these guys are Deion-ized into “collecting a check” nowdays.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
91. ONE pass rush move thats it.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Satele is a warrior. Guy plays week in and week out and gives it all up. Wish I had a whole team of guys like him. Unsung. Guy gets hurt and still shows up and brings wood. Has he been beaten by other professional athletes with talent and toughs? Sure. But the guy comes to play, hurt or not…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
We need a MLB like Samson Satele…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
88. Sure can but to cut a $12 mill player while $11 mill over the cap and then needing to replace the QUARTERBACK of your team while $20 mill over almost certainly means hurting the rest of the roster in order to afford a starting worthy QB IF you could find one.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
C’mon, Thec…you can’t be that naive.
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Honestly, you do not know enough about me to even come close to that conclusion.
I can and have had civil conversations with MB. I got no problem with him, for those that do that on you…
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That’s because you’re Brien’s groupie.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
94. Satele was brought in from Miami for the ZBS. We’re likely going back to it so he’ll stay but hes the lightest C in the game and struggles against NTs when hes not dinged.
Dinged up, yeah he plays, but hes a liability cuz he can’t handle bigger guys when hes healthy and he rarely is.
ZBS his lack of sand means hes more mobile and able to get second level but again, NOT if hes injured and again, he always is…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
You guys shuoldn’t have humored him. No one but a fool cuts Carson Palmer in 2012. Like him or don’t but cutting him is what a 7yo would contemplate…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Lunch time enjoy the after noon Raiders!~
February 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RD — Did you see the part where I said, “ahh..to dream?”
Anyway…I think DMC’s worth a 1st and 4th as a minimum. Some team wants that talent, they’ll have to pay…and if they want it enough, they’ll pay even more.
Trade DMC and get picks to fill some holes.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
“Satele is a warrior. Guy plays week in and week out and gives it all up. Wish I had a whole team of guys like him. Unsung. Guy gets hurt and still shows up and brings wood. Has he been beaten by other professional athletes with talent and toughs? Sure. But the guy comes to play, hurt or not…”
I was saying earlier that I see him play great some weeks then he gets blown up the next week I thought the reason was he will play hurt and a good portion of last year. I was asking others here what they thought about him as our Center.
Thanks for the post.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
88. He’s owed 12.5 million. It’s all a gamble but i would ratther see them keep jc or gamble on a mr 6 td matt flynn. He should not be to much and we know he can run a wco unlike pamler. That would be a decent savings and they could really use the money else. Seems Palmer is highly reguarded only by some raider fans. Cinci is laughing.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
WeaponX, our OLine was STOUT when all 5 were healthy and pretty darn good even when “dinged.” The guy is a warrior. I want warriors on my OLine….
February 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Palmer ain’t going anywhere, and him and D Moore are going to light up the AFC West next season.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
88. Sure can but to cut a $12 mill player while $11 mill over the cap and then needing to replace the QUARTERBACK of your team while $20 mill over almost certainly means hurting the rest of the roster in order to afford a starting worthy QB IF you could find one.
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Exactly…
February 16th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Sorry, had to comment on this:
Steve Cork says McKenzie is discussing “pulling bacl the steel curtain a bit”.
So that, combined with thier blind hatred of Davis is why Bay area newsies have been kissing the new regimes hind quarters.
Get a clue.
Soon as Mac and the Raiders face plant the media will pounce and that curtain gets drawn back.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
104. No, they weren ‘t.
DMC makes that O line look good by making the first unblocked guy miss.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Question:
As far as ON THE FIELD, hasn’t Rolando looked better and been more healthy his first two seasons, than Darren and DHB did their first two?
And how did their 3rd seasons go?
Thank you,
Rolando fan club
(accepting members)
February 16th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
108. We still need a right side
February 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
“Raiders have interest in Vinny Curry and Jake Baquette, so that cut is a foregone conclusion….but Wimbley has to see what the market yields….”
Vinny Curry 6′4 263
Jake Baquette 6′5 271
Both good prospects but will they be there when we finally get a pick?
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Baquette definitely.
so far its projecting as this
4th 96 (Asomugha compensatory)
Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
Emanuel Acho, ILB, Texas
Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
Shea McCleillan, DE/OLB, Boise St
Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy
Robert Turbin, RB, Utah
5th (140)
Audie Cole,ILB N.Carolina St.
Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
Mitchell Schwartz, OT, Cal
Malik Jackson, DE, Tennessee
Tony Bergstrom T/G, Utah St.
Jamelle Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
6th (170)
Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, NT, Baylor
Mychal Kendricks, ILB, Cal
Jake Bequette, DE/OLB, Arkansas
Ryan Steed, CB, Furman
Desmond Wynn, OG, Rutgers
Terrance Ganaway, RB, Baylor
6th 178 (Gallery compensatory)
Reuben Randle, WR, LSU
Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU
Akiem Hicks, NT, Regina
Brett Roy, DE/OLB, Nevada
Asa Jackson, CB, Cal-Poly
Miles Burris, ILB, SDSU
7th (240) (Thomas Howard compensatory)
Trevor Guyton, DE, Cal
Gerrell Robinson, WR, Arizona St.
Tydreke Powell, DT, N.Carolina
Omar Boldin, CB, Arizona St.
trade up/
Sean Spence, OLB, Miami
Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
Antonio Allen, S, S.Carolina
Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
Doug Martin, RB, Boise St.
Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
Mike Martin, NT, Michigan
Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati
February 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Gannaway in the 6th round?
Seems like a stretch.
Reminds of Natrone Means.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Thec…just saying they are everywhere…and we have plenty of pleasant, normal conversations with them. When THEY want it that way. You dig the dude, fine…more power to ya. But, I know what I read from him…and someone else’s cordial conversations with him don’t mean anything to me.
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I respect that Hayes. we can agree to disagree, and I will not name call or say anything disparaging to you. I have and always will respect your post as you bring football knowledge, and good conversation.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Pretty spot on article. Hopefully this ends the bush debate..
February 16th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
[...] to Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times, the Oakland Raiders will likely not place the franchise tag on running back Michael Bush, since it [...]
February 16th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Thec — That was a very nice thing to say…and I humbly tell you I appreciate it.
Raider on, brother.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
If Cork had a sit down with Reggie, than I would agree with KK, that some of this info might have been spoon fed to him.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
111. RaiderSam Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
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solid post Bruh. Glad to see you focusing on the D side.
Our D trench needs a lot of work… the front 7 is abysmal.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Lets fix the budget, and get to the playoffs!
February 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Raider on, brother.
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Yep, Raider on…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Gannaway in the 6th round?
Seems like a stretch.
Reminds of Natrone Means.
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This is way speculative…pre-combine…..some can move up and down, then the individual work out schedules for Pro Days… I agree..didnt include Temple’s
Bernard Pierce, Cal’s Sean Catthouse. Lot more prospects to look through
Will they or wont they shop McFadden will be interesting….if you look at the surface of the roster … given the amount of free agents….a fire sale is coming or major cuts…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
JIMMY CLAUSEN dudes .. jimmy clausen .. that is all.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
No way in heck I will believe a guy that is daily scooped by the Semi’s.
Cockran has an awful track record…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
I really like soliai. We have some versitile guys, but no true nose.. I think soliai can be the 5 or the nose. We have too many dt de hybrids. Plus we need a beast ilb. Or maybe rmac will take to the new coaches and wake the f up..
February 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
JIMMY CLAUSEN dudes .. jimmy clausen .. that is all.
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what do you give up for him?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I really like soliai. We have some versitile guys, but no true nose.. I think soliai can be the 5 or the nose. We have too many dt de hybrids. Plus we need a beast ilb. Or maybe rmac will take to the new coaches and wake the f up..
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soliai would go a very long way in fixing our trench…
A VERY LOOONG WAAAYY…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
111. RaiderSam Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
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solid post Bruh. Glad to see you focusing on the D side.
Our D trench needs a lot of work… the front 7 is abysmal.
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Thanks. Its based on that hybrid 3-4,4-3 concept…wouldnt be surprised if two Boise St guys get looks since they ran the 3-4,4-3 and the 3-3-5 (Billy Winn, McClellelin and George Iloka could be solid)
some dudes that are falling are Donte Paige-Moss, DaJohn Harris and Tydreke Powell – could be value picks late, if they can turn it around.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
We switch to base 3-4 we will need a new corp of LB’s….Not sure out of the current crop who I would keep…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
JIMMY CLAUSEN dudes .. jimmy clausen .. that is all.
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what do you give up for him?
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He could probably be had for a 5th, maybe a 6th. Still got a decent ceiling. Why not?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
JIMMY CLAUSEN dudes .. jimmy clausen .. that is all.
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what do you give up for him?
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NOTHING. He’s going to be cut.
“Clausen is due a $923,000 roster bonus on March 27. He spent 2011 as Carolina’s third-stringer, inactive on all 16 game days after failing to beat out Derek Anderson for the Panthers’ backup job. The Panthers are up against the cap, and need to shed $9.6 million before the new league year ”
rotoworld
February 16th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
i give up mike bush and tommy kelly . i think carolina will take them 2 , we get rid of their cap space and we get the great jimmy clausen .
February 16th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
sign and trade mike bush asap. seymour needs to go. mike huff needs to go. kelly needs to go ..
February 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
oh hes goin to be cut ? well heck thats great!!!
February 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Will m. Hasselback be a fa?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
i want jimmy clausen.. i want xavier adibi . i want vincent jackson . i want brandon carr .. no homo .
February 16th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
What will hater Cockran going to say when Prior is the #2 QB in this squad?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
NOTHING. He’s going to be cut.
“Clausen is due a $923,000 roster bonus on March 27. He spent 2011 as Carolina’s third-stringer, inactive on all 16 game days after failing to beat out Derek Anderson for the Panthers’ backup job. The Panthers are up against the cap, and need to shed $9.6 million before the new league year ”
rotoworld
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wow…I like Jimmy clausen he has moxie. I would bring him in and open the competition. only thing I would be worried about is his attitude. He clearly lost some of his moxie after being demoted with the advent of Newton…Seems like he lost some of his interest in the game…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
127. Good call on boise st. their roster is always worth a look, frrsno st. too.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
maybe snce weve given the patriots everything .. theyll let us get ryan mallet in a trade ? i know they love our players.. i bet they want mike mitchell & one of our recievers,, u know they do ,.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
What will hater Cockran going to say when Prior is the #2 QB in this squad?
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When PRYOR does ascend we can tell cockran to kick rocks…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
i bet they want mike mitchell & one of our recievers,, u know they do ,.
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hahahahahahahaha…..Truth…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
steck cockring will not hate on t pryor. even tho corky is a republican elitist that doesnt like black qbs . he is more of a raider fan than jerry mc who is a jets fan by the way.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
OT: RIP Gary Carter
February 16th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Id try clausen as #2. I just cant imagine tp will be comfortable in a wc offense after just 1 camp.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
1 NATION…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Any old wc qbs out there?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
if darren mc plays only like 8 games next season , then im gettin on a greyhound & ridin to oakland & me and him goin to have to settle this wit fisticuffs..
February 16th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Thec Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
We switch to base 3-4 we will need a new corp of LB’s….Not sure out of the current crop who I would keep…
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something along the lines of
OLB Kamerion Wimbley/FA’s Ahmad Brooks or Mario Williams?
ILB Rolando McClain
ILB Aaron Curry or Sam Acho/Audie Cole/or FA
OLB Jake Bequette or Brett Roy/Jonathan Massoquoi or FA Robert Mathis
backups
OLB ?
ILB Darryl Blackstock
ILB Jo-Lonn Dunbar as FA?
OLB Travis Goethel/Wesley Woodyard as FA
February 16th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
WOW DID I JUST READ THAT MY BOY GARRARD IS IN THE MIX!!!! YES!!!! SIGN HIM YESTERDAY, HE IS A FANTASTIC PLAYER, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT ION MY MIND THAT HE CAN WIN WHEN PALMER FALTERS!!!!!!
he is smart with the ball, makes every throw you want and is a very gifted physical runner.
i would take him in a heart beat
do it big mack!!!!
February 16th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
ya know.. our offense is straight. they bad azz enuff. get like 2 more o linemen to tigten uo the rotation ,. a new runnin back to run wit dmac & taiwan soft model boy jones and tell kevin boss that he is the focus point of the offense then the offense will be pretty good. now the defense just scares us all.. will they ever stop the run ? how in the hell we gonna defend the pass next season ? thats wuts scary .. safeties that are scared to tackle.. no experience dbs.. whew .
February 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
god daryl blackstock sucks. and dude.. david garrad best bet is to retire, its over 4 him .
February 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
“The player rep for David Garrard expects the free agent to be recovered from back surgery by mid-March or early April, and insists Garrard is intent on playing in 2012.
“He is open to all teams and any situation that makes sense for him and the team,” added the agent. Garrard’s willingness to accept a backup role is key, as he’s now 34 years old and dealing with what appears to be a chronic back condition.”
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Garrard is 34, and battling a chronic back condition. He’d only be a back-up… um
pass.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Garrard has a bad back though, and couldn’t clear a physical.
Although, the Raiders have had this weird knack of clearing guys who can’t play and waiving guys who can.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
The Raider Offense may have seemed pretty good, to some last year. That doesn’t mean they will be the same next year. Teams change from year to year. Tip.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Dorian Gray Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
god daryl blackstock sucks. and dude.. david garrad best bet is to retire, its over 4 him .
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The idea would be Blackstock had played in the 3-4 before and would be a relatively cheap re-sign.
the Niners Larry Grant would be a nice pick up, but he’s a restricted free agent.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
#154 They even change from game to game based on injuries and matchups etc…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Garrard has a bad back though, and couldn’t clear a physical.
Although, the Raiders have had this weird knack of clearing guys who can’t play and waiving guys who can.
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Afternoon fellas…….
No Kidding.
Jared Gaither anyone?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Garrard has a bad back though, and couldn’t clear a physical.
Although, the Raiders have had this weird knack of clearing guys who can’t play and waiving guys who can.
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that “weird knack” really hurt them in the Jared Gaither thing…i’m still scratching my head on that – Chargers will re-sign him, and cut loose Marcus McNeil
February 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Garrard fumbled a lot though.
Not many picks, but tons of fumbles.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
The Raider Offense may have seemed pretty good, to some last year. That doesn’t mean they will be the same next year. Teams change from year to year. Tip.
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Especially true with the change in staff.
I really think the core group on O will provide plenty of options and ultimately score a lot of points.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RaiderSam Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
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Garrard is 34, and battling a chronic back condition. He’d only be a back-up… um
pass.
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uh yes that is what we need right a back up qb that can win when he steps in?
Garrard is an excellent choice, and in my opinion could supplant palmer if palmer flops.
garrard is money in the clutch and has playoff wins, and he did it with teams with very little offensive talent besides himself and mjd
February 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
However, he could be a good backup, and a good sounding board for Pryor.
I remember when Hue was hired, many on here said he could “relate” to players better. So does that mean Garrard can “relate” to Pryor more as well?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Garrard fumbled a lot though.
Not many picks, but tons of fumbles.
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claim to fame was nearly beating the Patriots in their playoff game…
February 16th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
#154 They even change from game to game based on injuries and matchups etc…
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Looking at what the Raider Offense did last year, and predicting what they will do next year, is problematic. Especially with new schemes coming in.
You can’t just say, “Oh the offense will be good, because they were good last year”
February 16th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thanks RaiderSam for the draft predictions!
February 16th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
However, he could be a good backup, and a good sounding board for Pryor.
I remember when Hue was hired, many on here said he could “relate” to players better. So does that mean Garrard can “relate” to Pryor more as well?
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Somebody better “relate” to that kid. That doing the “Dougie” on the sidelines while getting blown out 28-0 vs. the Chiefs has got to go. Wished Romo was on the sidelines ready to smack him upside the head.
Amused when he was drafted in the compensatory draft; and they asked him what do you think about playing for the Raiders…and he responded
Oh yeah…”the Black and Silver”…most definitely.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
However, he could be a good backup, and a good sounding board for Pryor.
I remember when Hue was hired, many on here said he could “relate” to players better. So does that mean Garrard can “relate” to Pryor more as well?
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Maybe. It’s all about personalities and how they mesh.
From what little I’ve heard or read about Pryor, He seems to be coachable.
I’d love for Him to pan out as a long term starter for us.
It would go a long way in solving longer term issues.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
The Raider Offense may have seemed pretty good, to some last year. That doesn’t mean they will be the same next year. Teams change from year to year. Tip.
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Especially true with the change in staff.
I really think the core group on O will provide plenty of options and ultimately score a lot of points.
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Losing Bush, changes the whole complexion of that core group, Imo.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thanks RaiderSam for the draft predictions!
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Im trying…dude, you should’ve seen my earlier dream trade up for Trent Richardson..had one for Donta Hightower , too.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Pryor being great would be ideal.
From the “Dougie” to the Pro Bowl???
Not likely however.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
However, he could be a good backup, and a good sounding board for Pryor.
I remember when Hue was hired, many on here said he could “relate” to players better. So does that mean Garrard can “relate” to Pryor more as well?
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Word is, that Pryor follows Palmer around like a little puppy.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mistic-tell us again how not one single person on the planet, except you, introduces your date to the waiter, and that you think it’s cool, while the waiter is shaking your dates hand with his greasy hand, while she cringes.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RaiderSam Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Garrard fumbled a lot though.
Not many picks, but tons of fumbles.
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claim to fame was nearly beating the Patriots in their playoff game…
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ok the guy doesnt even play here and all ready haters are coming out of the wood work.
No his claim to fame is that he is a play off winning pro bowl qb that made chicken salad out of chicken shid in jax.
i guess anybody that is seen as a possible threat to palmer is unwelcome on this board lol
February 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Does this mean Code Black is dead?
Is it Code Reggie now?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I also didn’t like Pryor wanting a uni number (#2 at that).
Why do players care about uniform numbers? Especially mid round picks that just dodged some bullets, and backdoored into the draft.
Should be happy with a uniform, and not care if #2 looks “cooler” than #9.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RaiderSam Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
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Garrard is 34, and battling a chronic back condition. He’d only be a back-up… um
pass.
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uh yes that is what we need right a back up qb that can win when he steps in?
Garrard is an excellent choice, and in my opinion could supplant palmer if palmer flops.
garrard is money in the clutch and has playoff wins, and he did it with teams with very little offensive talent besides himself and mjd
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For some reason, i just see that dude smiling and holding a clipboard with the baseball cap on and an earpiece. His conditioning is suspect to say the least. – like Rodney Peete did. Might be worth it. I mean the Steelers had Charlie Batch and never used him for years…but he did come through….
February 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Word is, that Pryor follows Palmer around like a little puppy.
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Speaking of puppies, we just welcomed a new addition to the family, a $600, 2pound ball of Morky fun!!
February 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I do not understand y anyone thinks Pryor is going to be any good. I guess anything is possible but what has he done to make people believe he would be great? Won a Rose bowl? Also I hope the Raiders find a way to keep Bush and get rid of Khalif Barnes. Barnes is a penalty machine, he even finds a way to stand out on a team full of penalty makers.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I also didn’t like Pryor wanting a uni number (#2 at that).
Why do players care about uniform numbers? Especially mid round picks that just dodged some bullets, and backdoored into the draft.
Should be happy with a uniform, and not care if #2 looks “cooler” than #9.
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Think he wears #6. And why resurrect that Marc Wilson legacy? Ugh.
2 was JaMarcus, so he didnt get that for obvious reasons. LOL
February 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
The Raider Offense may have seemed pretty good, to some last year. That doesn’t mean they will be the same next year. Teams change from year to year. Tip.
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Especially true with the change in staff.
I really think the core group on O will provide plenty of options and ultimately score a lot of points.
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Losing Bush, changes the whole complexion of that core group, Imo.
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I hear you.
Bush I think is a piece that can be replaced without a loss of production.
A healthy McFadden opens up the entire Offense.
I understand we can’t put all of our eggs in the McFadden basket, but Jones can fill the role if/when DMAC is down.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
i guess anybody that is seen as a possible threat to palmer is unwelcome on this board lol
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I wanted Garrard last year instead of Palmer, due mostly to not having to spend anything to get him.
Than he had the back issue.
And he DOES fumble a lot. That is not opinion, it is fact.
He led the NFL in fumbles, in both 2009 and 2010.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Silver N Black Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I do not understand y anyone thinks Pryor is going to be any good. I guess anything is possible but what has he done to make people believe he would be great? Won a Rose bowl? Also I hope the Raiders find a way to keep Bush and get rid of Khalif Barnes. Barnes is a penalty machine, he even finds a way to stand out on a team full of penalty makers.
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Same reason no one thought Cam Newton would be good or Tim Tebow. They definitely will look at him in the pre-season. Why the hell not?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Word is, that Pryor follows Palmer around like a little puppy.
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Congratulations. Now, what do you think about the word that Pryor, is following Palmer around, closely?
February 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
From Twitter:
OAKLAND RAIDERS
The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent DB Brandon Underwood.
4 minutes ago from web
February 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent DB Brandon Underwood.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I’m more disturbed that Mistic is so racist. The following is just wrong.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 15th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
you are an idiot, every black dude i know tips, in fat the only people I have ever heard challenge the notion of tipping were WHITE!!!
February 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Mistic-tell us again how not one single person on the planet, except you, introduces your date to the waiter, and that you think it’s cool, while the waiter is shaking your dates hand with his greasy hand, while she cringes.
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no one said anything about shaking hands at the table. does the waiter stick hi hand out when he introduces himself to the people he is going to serve? No dumb azz.
Again just because you dont know anything about being smooth or relating to actual people doesnt mean anything.
Even if i was the only person on the planet as you put it, to do this, it works well for me.
I dont need approval from buck toothed mobile home jockey, that has a love affair with cyber chicks.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Got to love Pro Football Reference though, and their all-time rankings.
Has Garrard as #1228 all time, right behind Wayne Hawkins and ahead of Mike Minter.
I always get a kick out of those.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
The next 6 weeks will be very interesting for the Raiders and their fans.
Will Reggie try to hold the nucleus together, add a few key components in FA, and make a run for an AFC West Title in a weak Division…
Or will he purge the high contracts, bring in marginal talent at low prices, take his lumps in 2012, and then try to build a Championship team through the draft and FA in 2013?
If he can somehow combine these scenarios then he will truly prove he was the right choice for GM.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I hear you.
Bush I think is a piece that can be replaced without a loss of production.
A healthy McFadden opens up the entire Offense.
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Big if, bro. And, if he were to go sown, god forbid, were fked, without Bush.
I disagree, I don’t think he can be easily replaced. He’s going to go somewhere and start.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
“Word is, that Pryor follows Palmer around like a little puppy.”
If that’s true he is smart and shows initiative, I would assume that he knows the playbook well.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Got to love Pro Football Reference though, and their all-time rankings.
Has Garrard as #1228 all time, right behind Wayne Hawkins and ahead of Mike Minter.
I always get a kick out of those.
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Minter was clearly better imo…lol
February 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
LOL, people are still arguing about tipping and date etiquette.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
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RaiderLen Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I hear you.
Bush I think is a piece that can be replaced without a loss of production.
A healthy McFadden opens up the entire Offense.
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Big if, bro. And, if he were to go *down, god forbid, were fked, without Bush.
I disagree, I don’t think he can be easily replaced. He’s going to go somewhere and start.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent DB Brandon Underwood.
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Is this McKenzie’s first signing? I don’t know who he is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is better than anyone one else we have playing DB.
February 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Garrards fumbles can be corrected, just like other players tiki barber for example.
bad judgment on picks cant be corrected. Garrard is a hell of a player and he could supplant palmer.
Im in
February 16th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
In all seriousness, if you are at a really good restaurant, and you are a couple, the waiter should introduce himself, and it is somewhat implied for at least the guy to introduce himself.
But at Appleebee’s, not a necessity, lol.
And speaking of this whole tip thing that won’t go way, how awful is the blatant tip-generating service?
You know, like when the Hooters girl sits down at the table to take the order, and has to throw “honey” and “baby” into everything? My old stripper GF in Vegas had two Hooters friends (defectors from the all-nude game) and they told me that it was part of the training and was called “suggestive conversation” or something PC like that.
OK, that is my ramblings.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Nice post Wasbanned #189
February 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Underwood was a Packer, and apparently he had a rocky marriage:
“Underwood is facing a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge stemming from an incident in June where he allegedly ripped a necklace off his wife’s neck and then dragged her from his vehicle. All signs point to the couple being drunk at the time of the incident.”
February 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Michael Bush franchised ??? Before you say, “Nah….we can replace him for the rookie minimum” you it should be considered that had Bush been the featured back and played out all 16 games he probably would have gained 1400 yards. So how much are we willing to pay based on our need to retain Bush?
The problem is when DMAC goes down about the 5th or 6th game (and he will definitely go down for the season) we will need a viable running back to replace him. Taiwan Jones is suspect at best, since in Hue’s tunnel vision non-wisdom world, Taiwan’s playing was negligible so he don’t know his potential. Of course we have to assume the negative that he can’t replace Michael Bush. So what to do??
February 16th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I hear you.
Bush I think is a piece that can be replaced without a loss of production.
A healthy McFadden opens up the entire Offense.
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Big if, bro. And, if he were to go sown, god forbid, were fked, without Bush.
I disagree, I don’t think he can be easily replaced. He’s going to go somewhere and start.
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I like Mike Bush, and would love to have Him back, but not at Franchise Tag $$$.
McFadden is a Huge “if”, no doubt.
I guess it’s about priority and where $$$ is spent.
I think Bush’s production can be accounted for with less $$$.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
JFB
I noticed you didn’t respond to the word that Pryor is following Palmer around, picking his mind.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Now, what do you think about the word that Pryor, is following Palmer around, closely?
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I think it is great.
Palmer has a calmness to him, and has enough of a work ethic, that some wet-eared rookie could learn tons from.
I think Pryor, enjoys being “Terrell Pryor”, and will work to make sure he can keep up the life style. May not make a career out of it, but I will take a quality #2 for 3 years.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Mark Clemens:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Underwood
February 16th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
A couple of off-field incidents…but everyone makes mistakes.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/green-bay-packers-brandon-underwood-wife-says-incident-blown-out-of-proportion-070611
February 16th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Hey, sorry I didn’t drop everything and answer your question in a promptly manner.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
I would rather my MLB beat azz and threaten gun play, than some DB who beats on the women of his children.
Just saying.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
JFB
I noticed you didn’t respond to the word that Pryor is following Palmer around, picking his mind.
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Hey, sorry I didn’t drop everything and answer your question in a promptly manner.
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I guess, that doesn’t jibe with your ideas about his character. So Republican.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
It seems like a ben tate or mike bush is taken after the 1st rd ever yr.. Bush can walk. We’ll survive.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Brandie Underwood:
http://www.totalpackers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/brandie1.jpg
February 16th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Silver N Black Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I do not understand y anyone thinks Pryor is going to be any good. I guess anything is possible but what has he done to make people believe he would be great? Won a Rose bowl? Also I hope the Raiders find a way to keep Bush and get rid of Khalif Barnes. Barnes is a penalty machine, he even finds a way to stand out on a team full of penalty makers.
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Same reason no one thought Cam Newton would be good or Tim Tebow. They definitely will look at him in the pre-season. Why the hell not?
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mechanics,not much of an arm, didn’t have great numbers in college. besides that the broncos won in spite of tebow. the wins were driven by the defense. cam newton, i never understood why people gave him such a hard time. the guy has a good arm, came just short of 3000 yards his senior yr, had 30 tds to 7 ints. I think the situation with pryor is completely different than the ones with tebow and newton.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Brandon Underwood:
The case first came to our attention in June, with a report that six members of the Packers were being interviewed over a sexual assault claim by two women. The women were initially claiming that one Packers player raped them while other Packers players held them down.
That story later changed dramatically, to an allegation that Underwood brought the two women back to a cabin after meeting them at a strip club, and that he paid them for sex but threw them out of the cabin when he discovered them in the process of stealing from him.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
i do get the tebow pryor comparisons, even thoguh pryor is a better runner and passer (not by much).
Only a fool would compare pryor or tebow to newton.
Cam is in a class of his own
February 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
on deck RGIII
the future is now
February 16th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Brandie Underwood again:
http://girlsinyogapants.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/012312-002.jpg
February 16th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I guess, that doesn’t jibe with your ideas about his character. So Republican
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Don’t be stupid
February 16th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I guess, that doesn’t jibe with your ideas about his character. So Republican
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Don’t be stupid
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Lol, you’re such a ……………………………
February 16th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I think Cam is going to get a few prime time games this year.
You got to think, TV execs are drooling at getting Tebow vs. Newton on primetime TV.
Great storyline, and Tebow gets out of this world ratings.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
@108: I disagree, to open the season we had the least amount of sacks of any team in the league, DMcF was running amuck and I say the OLine was STOUT. Then when the wheels starting falling off, the line had some buckles but other than some Kaspleef Barnes penalties, overall our OL was not holding back our success….
February 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I thought tps’ feet were alittle sloppy, well his form altogether was a bit sloppy. But I think he is a 1st rd talent and a great project. Id still like a solid vet going into camp though.. We cant just add a guy week 1 if tp looks like a junior during the peseason..
February 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
mystic1,in my view youre a weak Raider fan,period.The greatness of the RAIDERS has always been,it doesnt matter who you are,its youre a RAIDER.Read some history,learn something,the RAIDERS dont care about skin color,be it players or coaches,stop with youre wish for a black QB,bashing Palmer,24/7,its junk and makes me want to hurl when I see a post from you.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2011/07/06/brandon-underwood-no-more-second-chances/
February 16th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Brandon Underwood:
The case first came to our attention in June, with a report that six members of the Packers were being interviewed over a sexual assault claim by two women. The women were initially claiming that one Packers player raped them while other Packers players held them down.
That story later changed dramatically, to an allegation that Underwood brought the two women back to a cabin after meeting them at a strip club, and that he paid them for sex but threw them out of the cabin when he discovered them in the process of stealing from him.
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sad. If a regular joe public, can mack on chicks and get what he needs, why would an nfl player have to trick like that? You are in the nfl and the scales are tipped in your favor.
Off top when i was coming up as a youngster trickn was something for the lames to do. Only people with no game pay for play.
Now it has flipped 180 degrees, dudes brag about trickn and making it rain at strip clubs. What has happened to man hood in the hood?
Why trick when the p is free
February 16th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I thought we were only after high character players this is not one of them.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Interesting, that Machete McKenzie would take the time to have an “off the record” meeting with the local hacks..
All he needed to do, was ask Herrera for the dossier’s that Al kept on all of them..
February 16th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
hendu Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
mystic1,in my view youre a weak Raider fan,period.The greatness of the RAIDERS has always been,it doesnt matter who you are,its youre a RAIDER.Read some history,learn something,the RAIDERS dont care about skin color,be it players or coaches,stop with youre wish for a black QB,bashing Palmer,24/7,its junk and makes me want to hurl when I see a post from you.
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I have no clue what you are talking about. I read this article from posted by the OAKLAND TRIBUNE TODAY (scroll up idiot) and they mentioned david garrard as a possibility. I DID NOT WRITE THE ARTICLE. I only agreed that garrard would be a good pick up.
Pleas explain how my agreement with the writer of this article constitutes racism.
Please tell me why in your mind race is an issue with qbs? I know you dont look for skin color when discussing any other position so why qb?
I cant help if a good qb is mentioned by a sport writer in a major paper, and he happens top be black.
What a clown
February 16th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Quality P ain’t free, whether it is time, energy, effort, or whatever it is your paying.
Some dudes don’t have the time for all that, and can’t be seen out with other chicks.
So, rather than “hunt” for the chick that is a willing participant under these conditions, you can get your lackey to round a handful of ones who are “willing” for about a days pay (or for NFL guys, an hour or two).
February 16th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Let Bush go and lets see what Reece can do at TB in a ZBS scheme. Schilens will be the one player that we let go that will come back to haunt this team if he ever can stay healthy. I hope that Knapp learned what HuJax learned with McFadden and keep the plays that make him a top 5 RB when healthy. Outside of Bryant I think that everyone else on that list has the potential to be gone.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Why trick when the p is free
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Have you seen the women in Wisconsin?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Here’s what I’d do:
QB Jason Campbell – try to resign as BU QB
QB Kyle Boller – Release
*FB Marcel Reece – Must resign
RB Michael Bush – Release
RB Rock Cartwright – Resign
WR Chaz Schilens – Release
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh – Release
C Samson Satele – Resign as BU center
OT Khalif Barnes – Resign as BU OT
OT Stephon Heyer – Resign as starting OLG
*DE Desmond Bryant – Must resign
DE Trevor Scott – Release
DE Jarvis Moss – Resign as BU DE
LB Ricky Brown – Release
LB Quentin Groves – Resign as BU LB / ST
LB Darryl Blackstock – Release
CB Lito Sheppard – Release
CB Stanford Routt – Already gone
FS Matt Giordano – Resign as BU Safety
SS Tyvon Branch – Must resign
SS Jerome Boyd – Release
DB Bryan McCann – Release
February 16th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Clown=mystic1,you dont fool anyone,moron
February 16th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I think Desmond Bryant is at times our best D-lineman.
Didn’t he go to school with Jeremy Lin?
Time to start Lining!!
February 16th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
@Mistic,
HE IS A FANTASTIC PLAYER, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT ION MY MIND THAT HE CAN WIN “WHEN” PALMER FALTERS!!!!!!
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C’Mon if someone said this a year ago about JC you would have been angry. Palmer is on notice and everyone agrees he has to prove himself. You could have said “if” instead of “when.”
You called a lot of people out who constantly blasted JC before the 2011 season and rightfully so b/c he was our QB and it was not going to change.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I think Desmond Bryant is at times our best D-lineman.
Didn’t he go to school with Jeremy Lin?
Time to start Lining!!
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Last season when Cork had T Kelly in during a chat I asked the question…
“Pound for Pound which Raider is the strongest”?
Answer: Dez Bryant
Surprised the hell out of me.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Oh and I would love to sign Garrard…if he is healthy.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
R$aider sign Brandon Underwood?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Oh and I would love to sign Garrard…if he is healthy.
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If healthy and the $$$ is right…absolutely.
Much better then Boller.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Last season when Cork had T Kelly in during a chat I asked the question…
“Pound for Pound which Raider is the strongest”?
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At least you got some football Q’s involved!!
The only thing I got from that chat, was that Stephen Heyer is incredibly ugly, TK loves soccer, is too much of a grown-up for Facebook and Twitter, but loves family guy.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RIP Mets and Expos catcher Gary Carter.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Still waiting for Corky to deliver us Dennarius for a live chat.
Also, whatever happened to his gathering questions from us, and than taking them to the players?
Corky = over-promise and under-deliver
February 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Quality P ain’t free, whether it is time, energy, effort, or whatever it is your paying.
Some dudes don’t have the time for all that, and can’t be seen out with other chicks.
So, rather than “hunt” for the chick that is a willing participant under these conditions, you can get your lackey to round a handful of ones who are “willing” for about a days pay (or for NFL guys, an hour or two).
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The incident happended in June. His wife filed for divorce in May and still lives with him and his three kids. Not defending his decision, but there could be more to the story. 95.7 just said he was a safety?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Interesting, that the Raiders would be interested in a scamper QB like Gerrard. Is that going to be the fit, for the Raiders future.?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
R$aider sign Brandon Underwood?
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Has to be one of Reggie’s guys.
Late round pick of GB in 2009?
His history has been made public, which tells me that Reggie must believe that the “risk” is overshadowed by the potential reward.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Mark C: yogapants – post of the day…
February 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Interesting, that the Raiders would be interested in a scamper QB like Gerrard. Is that going to be the fit, for the Raiders future.?
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Thought he had a pretty good arm? Also, isn’t a backup QB who doesn’t get a lot of snaps in practice good to have a scamper QB?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Still waiting for Corky to deliver us Dennarius for a live chat.
Also, whatever happened to his gathering questions from us, and than taking them to the players?
Corky = over-promise and under-deliver
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If that’s a personality trait, I wonder how the wife feels about it…lol
Just kidding Cork…you can take a joke…. right?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
243. Looks like were set in the secondary now
February 16th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Terrell Pryor in his last season (2010) at Ohio State completed 65.0% of his passes gaining 2772 yards through the air.
On the other hand Cam Newton completed 66.1% of his passes gaining 2854 yards through the air.
Both QBs had similiar low INT/TD ratios Newton being 30 TDs / 7 INT’s; Pryor’s being 27 TDs / 11 Int’s.
Newton gained 1515 rushing yards at 5.7 yds per attempt while scoring 21 TDs.
Pryor gained 773 rushing yards at 5.6 yds per attempt with 5 TDs.
Both QB’s had checkered collegiate histories with Newton attending Florida, sitting out his first season with an ankle injury, then being expelled from the team after being arrested for stealing a laptop computer, after which he transferred to Auburn. Newton’s stats described above came almost exclusively from his stint at Auburn for a single season.
Pryor, of course was guilty of committing NCAA violations and because he would have been suspended opted out for the supplemental draft. Pryor’s development during his first two season at Ohio State is obvious, leading to a superlative 3rd season.
Why so many Posters here claim Pryor has no talent, can’t make it as an NFL QB, I am not sure. He played for a big time collegiate school and had an excellent record. I purposely compared him to Cam Newton to show the similarity of talent, based on stats. Of course the intangibles cannot be accounted for here, and are beyond the scope of this posting. Corky, time and again, dismisses Pryor, stating that Pryor will never be an NFL QB. The problem with Corky’s opinion is that Corky never gives a reason for his contention.
I personally think there should be a heavy emphasis playing Cam Newton in pre-season just to assess his abilities.
If you look at Pryor’s throwing motion it seems natural, no artificial crimping with a hitch, like Tebow, can be seen. Also Pryor and Newton’s throwing motion are similiar. Pryor has an arm and routinely completed passes which were in the air from 50 to 60 yds.
Finally, we got Pryor for the price of a developmental player. If he bombs, very little harm suffered. However, I am placing my money on the side betting Pryor will be our franchise QB, good well into the future.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Still waiting for Corky to deliver us Dennarius for a live chat.
Also, whatever happened to his gathering questions from us, and than taking them to the players?
Corky = over-promise and under-deliver
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If that’s a personality trait, I wonder how the wife feels about it…lol
Just kidding Cork…you can take a joke…. right?
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He writes about the Raiders doesn’t he?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
C’mon now, Krappy Troll – stop trolling the blog for political talk!
I recommend any readers who are offended by Krappy’s actions to report him immediately to the moderators.
You’ve been warned, Krappy – the blog community will not stand for your constant trolling any longer.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Gerrard is a little old to be “scampering” isn’t he? Anyway if his back is okay, then I am okay with him on the team. Why’s he fumble so much? He got small hands like Culpepper?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
243. Len, whats Underwears history?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
If that’s a personality trait, I wonder how the wife feels about it…lol
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Probably a lot like mine, lol
February 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Saw this on twitter:
Since Kim Kardashian likes athletes so much, she should pursue Harvard grad Jeremy Lin. Her kids would have a shot at average intelligence
February 16th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Interesting, that the Raiders would be interested in a scamper QB like Gerrard. Is that going to be the fit, for the Raiders future.?
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Thought he had a pretty good arm? Also, isn’t a backup QB who doesn’t get a lot of snaps in practice good to have a scamper QB?
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Maybe. Maybe the new Regime, likes Mobile QB’s.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
@Mistic,
HE IS A FANTASTIC PLAYER, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT ION MY MIND THAT HE CAN WIN “WHEN” PALMER FALTERS!!!!!!
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C’Mon if someone said this a year ago about JC you would have been angry. Palmer is on notice and everyone agrees he has to prove himself. You could have said “if” instead of “when.”
You called a lot of people out who constantly blasted JC before the 2011 season and rightfully so b/c he was our QB and it was not going to change.
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i wasnt predicting failure for palmer( all though recent history suggest it is a huge possibility), I only meant garrard can step in and win in the event palmer flops.
Still dont see anything racist.
Jc was different matter all together. My stance was say whet you will as long as it is true, but jc will prove on the field what he can do, and shut the haters up. That is what happened.
I dont have that confidence in palmer, so i cant go out on a limb for the guy in that way.
Shouldnt be an issue that i suggest that garrard is more than capable of taking over for palmer, if/when palmer continues his god awful play of last year
February 16th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
So did they sign Underwood? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Still waiting for Corky to deliver us Dennarius for a live chat.
Also, whatever happened to his gathering questions from us, and than taking them to the players?
Corky = over-promise and under-deliver
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If that’s a personality trait, I wonder how the wife feels about it…lol
Just kidding Cork…you can take a joke…. right?
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He writes about the Raiders doesn’t he?
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LOL…
Hopefully the jokes will fade into distant memory.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
255. Some teams prefer diff styled QBs. A pocket starter and a scrambler back up. Its happened. I like Garrad. Thought it was his Crohn’s disease that benched him turns out it was a back injury.
If he can play sign him up
February 16th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
258. Amen brutha
February 16th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
If Lin could won 7 games in a row, and tag and release Kim K, that might go down as the greatest 2 weeks in the history of Man.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
243. Len, whats Underwears history?
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There are links posted above.
That’s all I know about “Underwear”
February 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
JB # 230
We must retain, Boyd, Jerome Boyd; he is critical.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
257. RNS says yes
February 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
lmao @ 261…
February 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
262. Thnx Len!
February 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
He may not take many three’s, but when he does, he makes them.
The Most Interesting Man in the NBA
February 16th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
If that’s a personality trait, I wonder how the wife feels about it…lol
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Probably a lot like mine, lol
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So you can relate….lol
JFB and Cork separated at birth?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Quality P ain’t free, whether it is time, energy, effort, or whatever it is your paying.
Some dudes don’t have the time for all that, and can’t be seen out with other chicks.
So, rather than “hunt” for the chick that is a willing participant under these conditions, you can get your lackey to round a handful of ones who are “willing” for about a days pay (or for NFL guys, an hour or two).
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Hmmm, i wouldnt know what its like to have money to throw at chicks like that.
I guess I just enjoy macking on chicks, so the time an effort thing isnt a chore it is a pass time, and an art form.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
250.Master Beeecham Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
C’mon now, Krappy Troll – stop trolling the blog for political talk!
I recommend any readers who are offended by Krappy’s actions to report him immediately to the moderators.
You’ve been warned, Krappy – the blog community will not stand for your constant trolling any longer.
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Beeecham,
This is your posting??? Me thinks someone hijacked your SN. Doesn’t sound like whatsoever.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Interesting, that Machete McKenzie would take the time to have an “off the record” meeting with the local hacks..
All he needed to do, was ask Herrera for the dossier’s that Al kept on all of them..
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Interesting you should mention that…
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 02-16-12: NEW DAY OR POWER PLAY?
Things have been all smiles between Reggie and the media but whats really going on behind closed doors with the media and the Raiders new regime?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
February 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
im out
February 16th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
272,good
February 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
“Terrell Pryor at Ohio State completed 65.0% of his passes…
On the other hand Cam Newton completed 66.1% of his passes…”
Sigh. Please look up the schedules they played. Pryor’s is a joke. And he choked in over half his big games.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Read the article and it says either Reggie is incredibly smart or very lucky so far.
Explains why Bay area media types haven;t called the new regime to task for questionable moves.
They think Reggie’s gonna give them the golden ticket to Davis’ Wonka factory but there was a reason Davis hated Bay area media and Reggie will learn that soon enough…
February 16th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
274. Hes a Davis project which means thin ice
February 16th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
@Just Fire Baby
Did you see the Hookers tried to rob him and he threw them out and they called the Police and then they were all Fooked.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Read the article and it says either Reggie is incredibly smart or very lucky so far.
Explains why Bay area media types haven;t called the new regime to task for questionable moves.
They think Reggie’s gonna give them the golden ticket to Davis’ Wonka factory but there was a reason Davis hated Bay area media and Reggie will learn that soon enough…
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Nonsense. It’s waaaay to early for anybody, including the media, to judge Reggie McKenzie.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Amazing….Kell taken shots at me after we both agreed to keep it football only……Thec is my groupie? I knew Thec back when I was a little child…so actually its me who looks up to him. Insulting you would ever spew such a statement. You may wanna have a convo with Thec and see how intelligent dude is. He has a mind of his own as do I so the groupie stuff you can miss me on
February 16th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
The Bay Area media is full of a bunch of half-cocked hippies.
I think the ABQ journal asks tougher questions to the UNM football and hoops coaches.
Whenever Kate Bosworth can get the floor in a coaching press conference, you know where you stand.
Did Jen Sterger get to ask questions to the Jets when they had pressers?
February 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Did you see the Hookers tried to rob him and he threw them out and they called the Police and then they were all Fooked.
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Sounds like last Saturday night.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
HitManMorris Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
So did they sign Underwood? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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Since the Raiders reported it on Twitter and he’s now listed on their roster, YES.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Amazing….Kell taken shots at me after we both agreed to keep it football only……Thec is my groupie? I knew Thec back when I was a little child…so actually its me who looks up to him. Insulting you would ever spew such a statement. You may wanna have a convo with Thec and see how intelligent dude is. He has a mind of his own as do I so the groupie stuff you can miss me on
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Lol, Sorry.
I know you guys and BrownStains are close.
February 16th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Nonsense. It’s waaaay to early for anybody, including the media, to judge Reggie McKenzie.
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Agreed.
Reggie is just now getting started and has to still address the “off field staff”, which will most likely take place in earnest after the Draft.
I like and trust in Reggie’s pedigree.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
And MistaBrown is not a racist at all….some people are just too slow….and HayesDaze has always been a soft btch that should find the nearest gun turn it on himself and pull the trigger…..the Earth would greatly benefit from his act of courage…….its sad that when someone doesn’t go with the status quo they are mislabeled by others. Very lame becuz I have too dealt with Mista outside of blog. Just becuz he doesn’t like Ohdumma doesn’t mean he is a bigot. Do you ever hear or read Mista slamming other “black” people? Nope…but the prez is open for criticisim since he is the one who volunteered for the job. Not his fault he isn’t a docile sheeped out fool being led to the slaughterhouse like other folks…….GET OVER YOURSELVES…..you can not like Mista and say he is an idiot but hollerin he is racist is a copout becuz he wrecks you jcats on the daily
February 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Kell…old man…at least keep up….you copy a post where I never mentioned Mista…..Thec was the point aand how you are outta line for your comments in post 47
February 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Bay Area media= paid off cowards
February 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Why does everyone have to hate on this blog? Can’t we all just be friends? D:
February 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Kell….to take a line from that maid in “The Help”…..aren’t you tired? Like seriously man aren’t you tired of carrying a bitter persona 100 pct of the time? Al Davis has jetted this Earth and no longer runs the Raiders….one who frequents this blog would be led to believe your nastiness and rude nature would be curbed….OH NOOOOOOO…our fault our bad….shoulda never believed Al davis is the root of your unhappiness
February 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Lol, pretty presumptuous. Have your rant. I’m gonna take a nap.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Kell….you have flown all over the world…rubbed elbows with some of the bigger people of the world…yet you still act like a person who has never stepped out of your city limits
February 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Hey I like everyone…
Except people that drive 55 in the fast lane.
People that don’t know what they want after standing in line looking at a board menu for 5 minutes.
And people that stand in a grocery line (and hold it up) after having paid their bill, examining every line item to see if they were overcharged.
Other than that I good. : )
February 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Alex7, #274,
Can you really say with a straight face that Auburn had a more difficult schedule than Ohio State ???
These schools are barely rated:
Arkansas State
Mississippi State
South Carolina
Louisiana-Monroe
Chattanooga
Auburn 2010 Schedule:
2010 schedule
Date Opponent Location
Sept. 4 Arkansas State Auburn
Sept. 9 Mississippi State Starkville*
Sept. 18 Clemson Auburn
Sept. 25 South Carolina Auburn
Oct. 2 Louisiana-Monroe Auburn
Oct. 9 Kentucky Lexington
Oct. 16 Arkansas Auburn
Oct. 23 LSU Auburn
Oct. 30 Mississippi Oxford
Nov. 6 Chattanooga Auburn
Nov. 13 Georgia Auburn
Nov. 26 Alabama Tuscaloosa
Ohio State 2010 Schedule
2010 Ohio State Buckeyes Football Schedule
Final Record: 12-1, 7-1 (Big Ten)
Date/Time Opponent Result Tickets
Thu. 09/02/10
7:30 p.m. ET Marshall Won 45-7 —
Sat. 09/11/10
3:40 p.m. ET Miami (FL) Won 36-24 —
Sat. 09/18/10
12:00 p.m. ET Ohio Won 43-7 —
Sat. 09/25/10
3:30 p.m. ET Eastern Michigan Won 73-20 —
Sat. 10/02/10
12:00 p.m. ET at Illinois Won 24-13 —
Sat. 10/09/10
12:00 p.m. ET Indiana Won 38-10 —
Sat. 10/16/10
7:00 p.m. ET at Wisconsin Lost 31-18 —
Sat. 10/23/10
12:00 p.m. ET Purdue Won 49-0 —
Sat. 10/30/10
8:00 p.m. ET at Minnesota Won 52-10 —
Sat. 11/06/10 Open Date — —
Sat. 11/13/10
3:30 p.m. ET Penn State Won 38-14 —
Sat. 11/20/10
3:30 p.m. ET at Iowa Won 20-17 —
Sat. 11/27/10
12:00 p.m. ET Michigan Won 37-7 —
2011 Allstate Sugar Bowl
at New Orleans, LA (Louisiana Superdome)
Tue. 01/04/11
8:00 p.m. ET Arkansas Won 31-26
February 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
No Kell pretty obvious….you pull a cheap move after saying let’s keep it football only which I said deal to……but you can’t help yourself…..I actually feel bad for you…CAN’T LET GO and you know like I know when you look into that mirror in the morning and at night you feel disgusted at the reflection….that’s your own fault and no one elses….go get professional help becuz at 6@ this ain’t healthy
February 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Yes take a nap and when you wake up….come back with a brand new attitude…you are making majority of the blog wanna vomit with your nonsense
February 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Len lol….funny post but Kell needs to quit….all that money he has made evidently hasn’t bought him any type of respect or “class”. Guy must have the most empty life ever
February 16th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Brien,if youre still around,not sure what you mean?Youre point is,Raider Fan?
February 16th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Anyways…I’m out….was alerted by fellow blogger of the pitiful posts of Kell and Hayes…had to speak on it….y’all be cool
February 16th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
BrownStains, you ARE a racist pos. Hello?
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And all these year I thought he was just a POS.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Hendu…did you not read the post?…and no I’m not a Raider fan…never been one and never will
February 16th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Hendu scroll up…see Kell accusing Thec,who I knew since I was a little kid, as my groupie….very offensive since Kell and I agreed to keep it football only between us. I held my end on the deal
February 16th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Glenny…..Mista is not racist…he just hard on Ohdumma as prez
February 16th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Anyways…..gotta jet…be solid
February 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
So we signed the guy who dragged the mother of his 3 kids from a car? Reg not too concerned about keeping it classy, I see.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
And people that stand in a grocery line (and hold it up) after having paid their bill, examining every line item to see if they were overcharged.
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Here in Albuquerque (The land of Manana) people sit and talk to the cashier about their cousins that knew each other from HS, what school their kids went to and on and on and on.
And the kicker? Nobody complains!!!
I thought I was in a parallel universe at first, now you just come to expect it.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Hey I like everyone…
Except people that drive 55 in the fast lane.
People that don’t know what they want after standing in line looking at a board menu for 5 minutes.
And people that stand in a grocery line (and hold it up) after having paid their bill, examining every line item to see if they were overcharged.
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People at the bank, who wait until they get to the teller’s window to fill out the transaction slip.
People that are to lazy to walk their shopping cart 50 ft. To the cart pen, and just leave it in a parking space. (This one really chaps my hide.)
People that can’t keep they’re rugrats in check, when in public.
People that don’t tip the bartender. (I as one for a time, back in the day.)
Otherwise, I’m pretty easy to get along with….
February 16th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I hate the people who make a complete stop in the middle of the road to make a right turn or people who fail to use their turn signal!!!!!
February 16th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Brien, are you finished? I gotta go to the store, I’ll be right back.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Biggest one for me is out of control kids. Control your kids, people! Just the other day at grocery store, there were 2 terrors raising he11, running around, yelling, grabbing crap.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
How about the people who walk in the exit and out the enter, and pay no attention to staying to the right?
Or the folks who stand behind you and watch you play a slot machine?
February 16th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
How about Folks approaching an intersection from opposite side and want to turn left but don’t use their blinker. You also want to turn left and have your blinker on but have to wait for them to pass. Then these goons look at you as they turn as if you’re the crazy one. Boils my blood and happens ALL THE TIME!
February 16th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Biggest one for me is out of control kids. Control your kids, people! Just the other day at grocery store, there were 2 terrors raising he11, running around, yelling, grabbing crap.
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My Sister was a cashier at a fancy overpriced grocery store and George Lucas’s wife came in. She was not paying attention to her kid and she was talking on her cell phone and her kid downed a whole box of liquor chocolates. Kid was messed up and she blamed my sister for not having the candies on a higher shelf.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Wow, I just lost some respect for Lucas.
February 16th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
As a public service here is a listing of possible “out of whack” contracts from CSN Bay area. I will put an asterisk by ones I think are gone (what I predict Team management will do and + by ones I personally think need to go or restructure and reduce:
TE Kevin Boss: due $2 million+
RG Cooper Carlisle: due $3 million+
LB Aaron Curry: due $5.76 million*+ (only will stay if restructures)
FS Hiram Eugene: due $2.25 million*+
DT John Henderson: due $4 million*+
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey: entering fourth year of five-year, $38.25-million deal with $23.5 million guaranteed (his annual hit is small at this point and much guaranteed)
FS Michael Huff: due $16 million over next three years+
CB Chris Johnson: due $3.5 million*+ (bye!)
DT Tommy Kelly: due $6 million*+ (bye!)
P Shane Lechler: due $3.8 million+ (I know hes the best but really – for a punter)
MLB Rolando McClain: entering third year of five-year, $40-million deal with $23 million guaranteed (most hit already gone and much guaranteed)
RB Darren McFadden: due $5.65 million
QB Carson Palmer: due $12.5 million, with $5 million guaranteed+
CB Stanford Routt: due $5 million, plus another $5 million “signing bonus”*+ (His day came -gone)
DT Richard Seymour: due $7.5 million, plus another $7.5 million roster bonus (His day came and went -stay)
LB Kamerion Wimbley: entering second year of five-year, $48 million contract, with $29 million guaranteed. ++** (Major Cap Savings) (Bye don’t let the door hit you on the way out)
February 16th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Method To My Madness, #295
Method,
Ditto that. Seems KK has a default defensive position: accusing others of being a racist or a troll.
My answer to that is: so what ? what if I am a racist or a troll? There is nothing you can do about it. I have been accused by KK of being that already and I could care less.
I don’t yet see a crown of moral superiority gracing KK’s head. It’s still a free country.
The 1st Amendment protects the individual from state action to be whatever he or she wants to be, think, and say whatever he or she wants, with the exception of:
producing obscenity for purient reasons only, which has no value to society at all;
fighting words designed to promote immediate violence;
incidiary words designed to promote illegal activities;
defamatory statements known to be untrue by the perpetrator;
false commerical statement known to be factually untrue.
February 16th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
BTW, any of Corky’s minions monitering the blog for transgressions, may be wise to send my posting #315 to him.
February 16th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
“Seymour Bush Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
BrownStains, you ARE a racist pos. Hello?
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And all these year I thought he was just a POS.”
That is funny I am seriously LMAO
February 16th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
KK and others of that particular ilk should be banned from this blog due to disrespect, and disparagement of individual posters, same as the posters who were banned for disrepect and disparagement regarding Al Davis, the staff and roster.
I’ll email Corky about that idea and turn in some names and suspect posts. KK will be top of my list. You all want some moral superiority: you have it !!
February 16th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Please everyone… Including you cork… Give TPryor a break. From what I remember he was said to have trailed Carson palmer like a puppy all year just trying to learn from him, hopefully he spends all offseason learning and practicing and comes in as true #2 QB next year ready to back up palmer at a moments notice and step in as the #1, I truly hope he does cause I want to see this kid succeed.
And to everyone dumping on him cause he is an “AL project” just try and remember that while Al Davis did whiff on a lot of his projects, he did hit the mark on some as well. And I hope TPryor is one of em.
February 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Ah, the Trolls…….we’ll never be rid of them….
February 16th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
KoolKell, 320
Thanks for the post KK !!
February 16th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
It’s just more ammunition against those “trolls and Pos’s” fomenting personal dissension on the blog – disrespect and disparagement of individuals. Please, say some more: the more the merrier. C’mon now, let loose, sock it to me.
February 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
In case you don’t know the definition of defamation:
A false and defamatory statement regarding an individual or entity published by one against the another to be truth.
There are certain absolute and qualified privleges applicable to defamation which don’t apply to personal attacks on a blog.
Remember, punitive damages are appropriate in defamation judgments and damages don’t have to be proven since they are implied.
Anyone being accused of certain behavior and/or called certain names such as “brown stains”, “troll”, “racist” suggesting certain traits or behavior which is untrue, need only commence an action, serve discovery on Corky to obtain the offender’s IP address, in order to ascertain the offenders identity.
From there the sky is the limit.
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