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Raiders sever ties with Herrera

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders and senior executive John Herrera, who has served the organization as a spokesman and in a front office capacity for the better part of his adult life, have parted ways.

According to someone familiar with the situation, the decision was made on the business side of the Oakland operation, and not by general manager Reggie McKenzie or coach Dennis Allen.

Herrera could not be reached for comment, and Raiders officials had no comment.

The first clue Herrera’s role had changed came Wednesday, when McKenzie held an off-the-record meeting with an informal lunch with Bay Area beat writers, and Herrera was not in attendance.

Herrera joined the Raiders out of high school, hired to run errands by owner Al Davis, and eventually moved up in the operations, leaving for stints with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and as a general manager in the Canadian Football League but eventually returning in 1985.

He was known as a fierce defender of Davis, which prompted the occasional run-inwith writers covering the team, most notably a confrontation with San Jose Mercury-News columnist Tim Kawakami that was caught on film and became a popular YouTube stop.

Since Davis died on Oct. 8, and the transfer of power with to son Mark Davis and McKenzie has general manager, Herrera’s departure is likely to be only one of several moves as the organization is restructured.

A source familiar with the situation said Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown, a longtime Raiders employee who has been in charge of “squad development’’ and has assisted coaches, will remain with the team, but his role is being “redefined.’In other news, the Raiders have signed Brandon Underwood, a defensive back who last played for the Green Bay Packers. He was a sixth-round draft pick by Green Bay in 2009, where McKenzie worked in the personnel department.

Underwood’s time with the Packers was marred by off-the-field issues, with two arrests in domestic disputes. He played in 23 games in two years, mostly on special teams.

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187 Responses to “Raiders sever ties with Herrera”

  1. C2E Says:

    it’s a miracle

  2. KoolKell Says:

    YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. YoungAmerican Says:

    Wow. End of an era.

  4. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Damn, I’m pouring some beer out for homie Johnny!!

    I loved that guy!!

  5. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Raider Nation-Station

    NOW!~ 02-16-12: New DB Uderwood’s Checkered arrest record / Kam Wimbley’s refusal to restructure…

    http://​www.raidernationstation.com/​raider_huddle

  6. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So the last words from Herrera, was during the Allen presser, when Herrera ended it with, “we have refreshments in the other room.”

    End of an era.

  7. 24 Says:

    Finally!

  8. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    can see why Hererra was let go. Doesn’t get more Davis than that but telling you all its a blood purge and a rebuild.

  9. hwnrdr Says:

    Ha! Who called this? Like YA said…end of an era! Where’s Sully to gloat about this?

  10. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Kawakami is trying to tear his own **** off with glee.

  11. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, now I wonder what Kawakami is thinking?

  12. RaiderYYZ Says:

    Not that I give 2 cents about Herrera, but with each passing day more and more the way I feel is we are now just another football team.

  13. Chris in NY Says:

    Why do so many on the board have this vendetta against Hererra? Because he teed off on Raider hater Tim Kawakami? Makes no sense.

    I guess he’s just another fall guy for the fan base. Like Mike Mitchell, Tommy Kelly and others who are frequently singled out as somehow being the cause of the Raiders struggles.

    Honestly this move, particulary with the story being that it came from Mark’s side and not Reggie’s, gives more credence to Mike Silver’s take that Mark Davis wants to purge the organization of people, like Hue and now Hererra, who have known him in his previous station and may not take him seriously as the top dog.

  14. 24 Says:

    Out with the old and in with the new. Its about time.

  15. hwnrdr Says:

    I didn’t hate Herrera, and maybe Silver was right, but one thing I do know…I don’t care either…However, I would like to see Herrera punch Kawakami in the face now!

  16. Herrera's OUT Says:

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  17. Master Beeecham Says:

    Yo yo yo, it’s time to end another era and have Corkran sever ties with Krappy.

    There’s gotta be a new clueless up and coming realtor who step in and take his place.

    BREAK OF A NEW DAWN GIVE GLORY TO MOTHER EARTH NAMASTE

  18. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Wow we let go of a guy who was doing the right thing in wanting to punch Tim Kawakami and we bring in a guy who put his hands on his wife.

    Not cool!!!!

    I guess I will step up as the next guy to punch Tim Kawakami in his lying ass face!

  19. TownRaider510 Says:

    Changes!

  20. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Why do so many on the board have this vendetta against Hererra? Because he teed off on Raider hater Tim Kawakami? Makes no sense.”

    I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Raiders and senior exec John Herrera have parted ways. Move came from business side, not from Reggie McKenzie, Dennis Allen.

    Jerry Mac

    —————

    Blood purge. Rebuild. RNS called it day one of Reggies presser. Have to laugh at some of the new raider bloggers who still think we’re simply retooling

  22. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I would like to see Herrera punch Kawakami in the face now!”

    I would pay a months salary to see it!

  23. Raiders for life Says:

    Bye mister media relations guy.

  24. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    “Why do so many on the board have this vendetta against Hererra? Because he teed off on Raider hater Tim Kawakami? Makes no sense.”

    I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ===============

    They hated the fact he was an Al man who hated the media as much as Davis buz he knew guys like Kawakami and Poole slammed the Nation every chance they could deserved or not and believe, there were plenty of times Davis decisions needed slammed but still…

  25. gfm975 Says:

    good, glad to see him gone. now if only the local rags could see fit to rid themseves of deadwood too… yeah like Kawakami and Cory, etc.

  26. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Of course Mark had to get rid of Herrera.
    Look how many years Al embarrassed his son, in front of Herrera? How many times Al insulted Mark, and Herrera, as a good lap dog, snickered on cue.
    Surprised he wasn’t the first one out the door.

  27. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderYYZ Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Not that I give 2 cents about Herrera, but with each passing day more and more the way I feel is we are now just another football team.

    ============================================

    As long as we’re a WINNING football team, no complaints here.

  28. r8eray Says:

    He will be missed……..”NOT”!!!!!

    ;)

  29. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    “I would like to see Herrera punch Kawakami in the face now!”

    I would pay a months salary to see it!
    ===============
    No doubt that $800.00 will go a long way.

  30. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “gives more credence to Mike Silver’s take that Mark Davis wants to purge the organization of people, like Hue and now Hererra, who have known him in his previous station and may not take him seriously as the top dog.”

    I was angry about that article it was slanderous and even Silver came out later and admitted he was over the top on that one.

    Still I would pay a ton of cash to see Herrera punch Michael Silver in the face….if I ever see that Silver guy in person I will lay hands on him and yes you can use this post as evidence as such.

  31. r8eray Says:

    I wonder if Kawakami will write a whole article on him?

    LHFAO!!!

    Kawa is doing the Victor Cruz ChaCha right now!!

  32. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    “I would like to see Herrera punch Kawakami in the face now!”

    I would pay a months salary to see it!
    ===============
    No doubt that $800.00 will go a long way.”

    THANKS man you gave me a raise!!!

    I was thinking more along the lines of $350

  33. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    RaiderYYZ Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Not that I give 2 cents about Herrera, but with each passing day more and more the way I feel is we are now just another football team.

    ============================================

    As long as we’re a WINNING football team, no complaints here.
    ===================
    Herrera had zero to do with wins or losses.
    Was simply a gopher, and someone who Al scripted what he wanted to say to the media.
    Wasn’t much more help than the water boy.

  34. C2E Says:

    Mark D = new sherriff = big cojones

  35. RaiderDuck Says:

    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    RaiderYYZ Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Not that I give 2 cents about Herrera, but with each passing day more and more the way I feel is we are now just another football team.

    ============================================

    As long as we’re a WINNING football team, no complaints here.
    ===================
    Herrera had zero to do with wins or losses.
    Was simply a gopher, and someone who Al scripted what he wanted to say to the media.
    Wasn’t much more help than the water boy.

    ==========================================

    But he was emblematic of everything wrong in Alameda. In pretty much any other organization, a “Senior Executive” caught on video trying to start a fistfight with a beat reporter would’ve been canned within days, or at least trotted on camera to read an apology and endure a public shaming.

  36. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    C2E Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    Mark D = new sherriff = big cojones
    ===========
    Mark “I’m special with my geeky 50’s haircut” Cojones?

  37. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    You are right, Duck, all that should have happened, but as we know, Al did things in the oddest of ways.

  38. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    You have no idea what Al did or Herrera did behind closed doors but to believe Silvers assessment of the situation is short sided and basically shows signs of dementia.

  39. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Mark D = new sherriff = big cojones”

    I was thinking the same thing.

  40. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    gfm975 Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    good, glad to see him gone. now if only the local rags could see fit to rid themseves of deadwood too… yeah like Kawakami and Cory, etc.
    ==================
    Everytime a writer is mentioned, it’s a feather in his cap.
    They want the writers to annoy you, to pizz you off, to make you scream for their heads.
    No one remembers or cares about vanilla writers.

  41. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Who cares?

    Just Win Baby.

  42. The Return of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    You have no idea what Al did or Herrera did behind closed doors but to believe Silvers assessment of the situation is short sided and basically shows signs of dementia.
    =================
    And you need to remove your head from you rear, numbnuts.
    It’s well documented that Al routinely ignored Mark, and in front of others belittled him.
    It’s also well documented that herrera is a spineless yes man.
    You, however, hit the trifecta.
    You’re spineless, enjoy being belittled, and are usually ignored.
    At least until you sign in under a different name to congratulate yourself on something no one cares about.

  43. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Kettle.

  44. R8rArt Says:

    Rather enjoyed Herreera at times. Was like a little pit bull.

  45. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “The Return Of the slow inbreed Albert Bigelow Paine

    Sure if you are some kind of feeble minded lackey who myopically believes everything the media sells them in a sheepish manner as apparently you are.

    I you actually pulled your head out of your ass like you asked me to do first you might be better at advising others to do so.

    If you want to hang on the sack of Silver and Kawakami like they are rock stars and you are a cross dressing transsexual in need of a good enema then go ahead.

  46. R8rArt Says:

    Lots of shaking up at Raider headquarters in Alameda.
    Nice change of scenery, to be sure.

  47. Simon Says:

    see ya!

  48. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We knew things would change one day.

    Seems kind of dramatic to do it all at once, but just like a band-aid, it is better to yank it all off at once.

  49. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Sorry bit late,

    Whats the Corner Back Underwood like talent wise? ever made any plays of note !!

  50. Chas Malloy Says:

    I can’t wait for the book to come out , unless a boatload of money and a non disclosure was executed.
    If not JH will profit from his years inside the inner- circle

    RMK must have the inside info on the Underwood story,

  51. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Underwood has a chance to be the 50th guy on the roster, who can play on all the teams units.

    Not much more than that.

  52. r8eray Says:

    According to Pro Football Focus, Jacoby Ford played just 38.8 percent of offensive snaps when he was healthy and in the lineup last season.
    Things may change under a new coaching staff, but it was clear in 2011 that Ford was third fantasy option behind Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore. Expect Moore to remain the No. 3 receiver, gadget player, and explosive return specialist in 2012. DHB and Moore project as top-30 fantasy receivers at the rate they produced under Carson Palmer last season.
    Related: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Denarius Moore
    Source: Pro Football Focus Feb 16 – 8:06 PM

  53. Blackmamba_20 Says:

    Thanks JFB !!!

  54. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I forgot that

    The Return Of Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Is one of MR’s (Sandusky44) monikers I do not want to engage in a blog with a troll later people!

  55. hwnrdr Says:

    And I agree…Silver is a tool himself! DO you realy believe that Al hated Mark? I mean seriously guys…
    What was also documented was the fact that Mark knew squat about football, and Al was/is a legend! It’s a father/son thing that the father wants to pass along his passion to his son…it may have been frustrating to Al knowing that his only son didn’t share his passion. Whether you see it as wrong doing for belittling his son in front of the media or not, he did always say that Mark is gonna inherit The Raiders! And if Mark was so vile, he could have easily sold out!

  56. Hardline Says:

    In case you don’t know the definition of defamation:

    A false and defamatory statement regarding an individual or entity published by one against the another to be truth.

    There are certain absolute and qualified privleges applicable to defamation which don’t apply to personal attacks on a blog.

    Remember, punitive damages are appropriate in defamation judgments and damages don’t have to be proven since they are implied.

    Anyone being accused of certain behavior and/or called certain names such as “brown stains”, “troll”, “racist” suggesting certain traits or behavior which is untrue, need only commence an action, serve discovery on Corky to obtain the offender’s IP address, in order to ascertain the offenders identity.

    From there the sky is the limit.

  57. KoolKell Says:

    Still ranting, troll? Lol.

  58. chrisram73 Says:

    This is the best offseason move yet! So happy that rat is gone! He was AD’s whipping boy and that is all! Chump should have been kicked out before Huebert.

  59. Hardline Says:

    KoolKell, #57,

    Yeah Kell, I am. I have a suggestion; why don’t you really give it me. Stage a personal attack with radical name calling and accusations.

    I would welcome it.

  60. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    HERRERA’S FATE WAS SEALED ON OCT-8TH.WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME..

  61. BewareofRaiders Says:

    Good and Underwood could be good for our special teams. Still think we should get either Grimes, Finnegan or Porter two out of three would be good

  62. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Thanks for the years of loyal service to the team we love.

    Sorry some hate you because he called out a hack journalist known for bashing Oakland.

  63. Raiders for life Says:

    Does Amy stay?

  64. R8rArt Says:

    I might be wrong, but I don’t believe you can defame a fictional name, made up for a blog, or a forum.
    There are literally hundreds of thousands of blogs, with millions of insults/accusations being exchanged daily between fictional names.

  65. r8eray Says:

    I believe Amy is McKenzie’s boss?

  66. C2E Says:

    If only Herrera’s release could help against the cap

  67. R8rArt Says:

    RaiderWeaponX Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Thanks for the years of loyal service to the team we love.

    Sorry some hate you because he called out a hack journalist known for bashing Oakland.
    ************************
    ?? that happened? Doesn’t make much sense, unless you are talking about non-Raider fans.

  68. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    The Herrera firing kept you all from talking about the Underwood signing.

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle

    Assaulted his wife “slung her to the ground” after Green Bays ring awarding ceremony.

    His wife, Brandi didnt want charges and says its over blown but Underwood also arrested for a prostitute.

    Maybe thats why the divorce?

  69. HGDaddy Says:

    Keep Amy Trask!!!

  70. R8rArt Says:

    I don’t believe Amy is anyone’s boss. She handles the legal aspect of the organization, and also was helping out in ticket sales, but can’t see her being over anyone.

  71. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    48. F’in A

  72. niceguymoe Says:

    RaiderYYZ Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Not that I give 2 cents about Herrera, but with each passing day more and more the way I feel is we are now just another football team.

    _______________________________________________________

    Is that what we want of the Raiders? To be “just another football team”? The Raiders should remain unique…

  73. GalacticGus Says:

    If it is a purely business move, I am sure there is will be some kind of behind closed doors reconciliation and Herrera will always be part of the Raider family. Call it an early retirement.

  74. C2E Says:

    The team may not be rebuilding via overhaul, but most everything is/will be. Will the brand/marketing, even uni’s, mystique change?

  75. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Gutted Coaching staff, changing schemes, firing, shuffling old guard? Rebuild

  76. alcala_m1 Says:

    Who cares about Herrera? It’s not like his presence brought wins to the team.

  77. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rebuild?

    Yes we are. Rebuilding this mess of an organization, that was a complete running joke of professional sports.

    Have we finished better than 3rd in our division, in 10 years?

    Rebuild, will be better than the “built” model in place, on day 1.

  78. djohnnyg Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Why do so many on the board have this vendetta against Hererra? Because he teed off on Raider hater Tim Kawakami? Makes no sense.

    There’s more than that. Herrera was a public relations disaster. He turned off most everybody.

    A few examples:

    -When Raiders declined to re-sign Gallery he said “The guy was just asking for too much”. Gallery in turn said “I am very grateful for my time spent with the Raiders. I’ll always have a special place in my heart for the Silver and Black. I enjoyed my time here and wish everyone in the organization the best”.

    -Gannon. He bacame incensed at Ol Rich for the inocuous statement that the Raiders needed to “blow the place up”. Herrera decided to portray Gannon as meaning that literally and then lambasted Gannon for blowing the SB by throwing 5 interceptions. Gannon was a former NFL MVP and one of the best Raider QB’s ever and did not deserve that attack by Herrera.

    -The Kawakami “incident”. Actually I wish he would’ve picked that weasel up and body slammed him. I hate that turd. That being said, it made the org. look petty and paranoid.

    I can appreciate his loyalty to Mr. Davis, but to have a guy like that in charge of public relations?

    He would’ve been better served as one of Al’s hitmen.

  79. aig-raiders Says:

    Dont let the door hit your a$$ on the way out Herrera! Dude was an embarrassment to our org.

  80. Tricky70390 Says:

    Kawakami isn’t a hater. Dude is a realist.

  81. 504 Raider Says:

    Whats up Nation!

    Later John H.

    I talked to a triner I know today who doesn’t really follow football like we do but watches some games when he’s not working. He is a certified trainer for Ochsner Sports Medicine. They cover the Saints and Hornets down here. He’s on duty 10 hrs per day during Saints training camp.

    I asked him about Dennis Allen and his eyes lit up. He said man that dude is a fierce fired up style coach. Says when he’s taping ankles or doing something else he can hear Allen in the background coaching’em up. Says he stops what he’s doing sometimes to see who Allen is coaching or getting on for mistakes.

    I told him Allen was the new coach of the Raiders and he was shocked. He didn’t know Allen was our coach. He thought Allen was still in Denver. Like I said he doesn’t follow football like us but the point is we got a great coach according to him and plenty others who really know the dude.

  82. Simon Says:

    well said.

    —————————-

    djohnnyg Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Chris in NY Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Why do so many on the board have this vendetta against Hererra? Because he teed off on Raider hater Tim Kawakami? Makes no sense.

    There’s more than that. Herrera was a public relations disaster. He turned off most everybody.

    A few examples:

    -When Raiders declined to re-sign Gallery he said “The guy was just asking for too much”. Gallery in turn said “I am very grateful for my time spent with the Raiders. I’ll always have a special place in my heart for the Silver and Black. I enjoyed my time here and wish everyone in the organization the best”.

    -Gannon. He bacame incensed at Ol Rich for the inocuous statement that the Raiders needed to “blow the place up”. Herrera decided to portray Gannon as meaning that literally and then lambasted Gannon for blowing the SB by throwing 5 interceptions. Gannon was a former NFL MVP and one of the best Raider QB’s ever and did not deserve that attack by Herrera.

    -The Kawakami “incident”. Actually I wish he would’ve picked that weasel up and body slammed him. I hate that turd. That being said, it made the org. look petty and paranoid.

    I can appreciate his loyalty to Mr. Davis, but to have a guy like that in charge of public relations?

    He would’ve been better served as one of Al’s hitmen.

    ————————–

  83. BigZ@CSM Says:

    Hey guys i havent posted in a while but i read this blog everyday. I am stoked about all the changes.
    Lets build a big bad beast of a D. Kick ass nation im out!

  84. RaiderDuck Says:

    Vittorio Tafur
    Raiders senior executive John Herrera says he is retiring
    6 minutes ago from Tweetbot for iOS

    ============================================

    OF COURSE Herrera’s retiring. Short of Al going “Night of the Living Dead,” there’s not a whole lot of demand for the guy.

  85. Dakota Says:

    This is more of an important move than many of you realize. Herrera got a lot of face time for this org, and now he will be replace with someone that doesn’t look like some small time want to be gangster.

    Big step up in professionalism with this termination.

  86. Dakota Says:

    Smoke potters!

  87. djohnnyg Says:

    12.RaiderYYZ Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Not that I give 2 cents about Herrera, but with each passing day more and more the way I feel is we are now just another football team.

    Don’t know if this will make u feel better, but Al Davis made an indelible, permanent stamp on the entity known as the Oakland Raiders. That will NEVER go away. The media will always hate us, we’ll always be the bad boy, they will constantly reference the bad boy image of the Raiders in all references to the Raiders.

    The good part about that; the stuff the org. is hopefully shedding itself from, is the dark last days of Mr. Davis and getting back to “winning”…which is what the Raiders were about for such a long time.

    We’ll still be the Raiders. Uniforms won’t change, and the bad boy image would take decades to shake no matter what happens on the field.

    Hopefully, we get back to being the Raiders that are known and HATED for WINNING so much.

  88. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I got Herrera got a nice severance package.

    Like him or not, dude was with the team 25 years, and Al’s right hand man.

  89. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    RMR using all kinds of aliases ton ite but giving blatant tells.

    Ick and yawn

    Herrera? Not crucial but those on one side or the other ie:

    I love raiders hate Davis

    Or love them both

    But

    Gannon shot his mouth off more than once about the Raiders and bit the hand of the team that took a bench warming 70 yr old QB and made him one of the most prolific passers of his era.

    Blow the buidling up and start over is what he said amongst other derogatory ****.

    NOt completely innocent but hes getting his way metaphorically.

    For better or worse it is what it is. We just want to WIN

  90. ray_d Says:

    Herrera was nothing more than Al Davis stooge and yes man. Now that Al’s gone it has been noticed that Herrera did nothing to earn his pay check.

  91. No Lo Says:

    NFL.com has reported that the Raiders will be given 2 compensatory picks in this year’s draft due to the firing of John “Can I Clean Your Teeth, Mr Davis” Herrera.

  92. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    87. Completely wrong.

    Mark Reggie and Allen are dismantling the Davis machine as fast as they can.

    The Davis Raiders died with him. The nod to him at Allen’s presser can be taken with the same grain of salt as Allen’s statement that we major changes wouldn’t be needed and that we were going back to Old school Raider football.

    No one realized by “Old school” he meant 2007.

  93. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    30 posters on here. 3 actual people

  94. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderWeaponX Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
    87. Completely wrong.

    Mark Reggie and Allen are dismantling the Davis machine as fast as they can.

    ===========================================

    You mean they’re dismantling the “Davis machine” that gave us, except for a 5-year Gruden respite, two straight decades of futility? GOOD!

  95. hwnrdr Says:

    Johnny, post 87…great post!

  96. hwnrdr Says:

    Anyways…can’t wait til March 13th! I’m sure Reggie will get this team well under the cap and make some moves! Sadly, he likes his picks, but unfortunately, this year we have none…but UDFA’s could be key! Not too sure about Underwood…when I saw ex Green Bay, I had to do a double take because I thought Woodson was back. Silly me, oh well!!!

  97. RaiderDuck Says:

    Oh, and lest anyone forget:

    http://youtu.be/ruiUgDyMf60

    A truly disgraceful day for Raider fans everywhere. Glad Herrera was finally shown the door, even if it was 3 1/2 years late.

  98. lefty12 Says:

    While it may be news that Herrera is gone ,as far as it impacting the team there is none.In reality it is a big phucking deal announcement and to those that care about football it means absolutely nothing.

  99. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    94. And 3 Superbowl Championships, tons of Divisonal Championships tons of play off appearances and the most iconic sports team on the planet?

    Few teams that have produced like that but I hope for the future.

    HAD to happen. Was inevitable but still a bit of shock to some I suppose.

    Some can’t wait for Oakland to reverse all of Davis’ life work and the identity he brought to the team but I;ve got news for you.

    None of that guarantees anything more than the Davis way…

  100. hwnrdr Says:

    Agreed Lefty…big news org wise, but impact? None!

  101. Raiders sever ties with Herrera Says:

    Raiders sever ties with Herrera

    By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
    Thursday, February 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

    The Raiders and senior executive John Herrera, who has served the organization as a spokesman and in a front office capacity for the better part of his adult life, have parted ways.

    According to someone familiar with the situation, the decision was made on the business side of the Oakland operation, and not by general manager Reggie McKenzie or coach Dennis Allen.

    Herrera could not be reached for comment, and Raiders officials had no comment.

    The first clue Herrera’s role had changed came Wednesday, when McKenzie held an off-the-record meeting with an informal lunch with Bay Area beat writers, and Herrera was not in attendance.

    Herrera joined the Raiders out of high school, hired to run errands by owner Al Davis, and eventually moved up in the operations, leaving for stints with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and as a general manager in the Canadian Football League but eventually returning in 1985.

    He was known as a fierce defender of Davis, which prompted the occasional run-inwith writers covering the team, most notably a confrontation with San Jose Mercury-News columnist Tim Kawakami that was caught on film and became a popular YouTube stop.

    Since Davis died on Oct. 8, and the transfer of power with to son Mark Davis and McKenzie has general manager, Herrera’s departure is likely to be only one of several moves as the organization is restructured.

    A source familiar with the situation said Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown, a longtime Raiders employee who has been in charge of “squad development’’ and has assisted coaches, will remain with the team, but his role is being “redefined.’In other news, the Raiders have signed Brandon Underwood, a defensive back who last played for the Green Bay Packers. He was a sixth-round draft pick by Green Bay in 2009, where McKenzie worked in the personnel department.

    Underwood’s time with the Packers was marred by off-the-field issues, with two arrests in domestic disputes. He played in 23 games in two years, mostly on special teams.

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/02/16/raiders-sever-ties-with-herrera/

    :sad:

    WOW, I dont believe it! oh well

  102. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    98. Pretty much but did distract from the hiring of a known criminal

  103. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Point, 102! One of the Davis ways that have crept back…but this is Underwood’s last chance. I say he’s gone by pre-season, unless he “wows” Denis Allen!

  104. hwnrdr Says:

    But wait, isn’t our new DB coach Underwood’s coach in 2010? Lin?

  105. Raider J Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    CB – Brandon Underwood

    2010 SEASON:

    “Was competing for the nickel CB job in training camp and for a while had the inside track, but injured his shoulder in the preseason…

    Had two special teams tackles for the third time on the year… Posted a coverage stop in eight of 12 contests… Added three special teams tackles in the postseason…
    one a stop of Devin Hester after an 11-yard return….”

    http://www.packers.com/team/roster/Brandon-Underwood/8ffcdb34-057f-4b54-ac50-8baf0dde925c

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Good post. Good acquisition. Inexpensive and addresses a need. Brandon Underwood can improve the Raider special teams coverage that gave up a TD at home with the playoffs at stake week 17.

  106. What really happened Says:

    Hererra let go cuz the Raider D sucked. When the D sucks as bed as they did, heads must roll. First Hue, now Hererra. Losing aint pretty. Hererra just another casuality of the poor chucky b D.

    Mark is one angry cat. I just hope Hererra got a few mil severance pay. Al Davis rewarded loyalty, and while some may think JH was just doin his job, the cat was loyal.

  107. Mark Clemens Says:

    Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    NFL.com says #Raiders linebacker Kamerion Wimbley not interested in pay cut. Set to earn $11 million in 2012, with $6.5 million guaranteed.
    ———
    Goodbye Kam

  108. djohnnyg Says:

    RaiderWeaponX Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
    87. Completely wrong.

    Mark Reggie and Allen are dismantling the Davis machine as fast as they can.

    The Davis Raiders died with him.

    You don’t get my point.

    There is NO WAY IN HELL, no matter how much they want to, or how many changes they make, that the PERCEPTION of the Raiders is going to completely change any time in the near future.

    You’re telling me that the media won’t constantly reference Al Davis in everything the Raiders do?

    Just as the Bears are inextricably linked to George Halas, and the Packers to Vince Lombardi in the media and in NFL lore, the Raiders will ALWAYS have the link with Al Davis; whether we go 19-0 or 0-16.

    I’m talking about the media’s “image” of the Raiders.

    We will ALWAYS be reminded that Al Davis was here.

    I’m not talking about the changes they are making now to rid themselves of the Al Davis regime which I whole heartedly acknowledge is what is taking place.

  109. RaidO Says:

    Carson Palmer and his $12.5 million should be cut next. Oh and uh “it will just be a business move”

  110. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderWeaponX Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    94. And 3 Superbowl Championships, tons of Divisonal Championships tons of play off appearances and the most iconic sports team on the planet?

    Few teams that have produced like that but I hope for the future.

    HAD to happen. Was inevitable but still a bit of shock to some I suppose.

    Some can’t wait for Oakland to reverse all of Davis’ life work and the identity he brought to the team but I;ve got news for you.

    None of that guarantees anything more than the Davis way…
    ==============================================

    Yes, the most iconic sports team on the planet, which, from 2004 on, was being OPENLY LAUGHED AT by people. Davis’ way didn’t work anymore. Look at us, for instance. We were CELEBRATING going 8-8 two straight years. CELEBRATING IT! “Yay, we’re thoroughly mediocre! Yay!”

    Davis ruled the Raiders for 5 decades:

    The first two (1963 – 1983) were awesome, and produced almost all of the success you mentioned.

    The third decade (1983 – 1993) wasn’t too bad, but the rot had set in. Al was becoming afraid to change.

    The fourth decade (1993 – 2003) was only passable because of the Gruden years.

    The fifth decade (2003 – late 2011) was a complete disaster. 7 straight 11-loss seasons. The Raiders, OUR RAIDERS becoming a national joke. People making YouTube clips lamenting that their teams have reached the bottom? Why? BECAUSE THEY LOST TO OAKLAND. That’s right; we’d become the Los Angeles Clippers of the NFL.

    His way didn’t work, and he’d become everything he once loathed. Am I glad he’s dead? NO. Absolutely not. Am I glad he’s no longer running the Raiders? Yes.

  111. hwnrdr Says:

    Mark Clemens Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    NFL.com says #Raiders linebacker Kamerion Wimbley not interested in pay cut. Set to earn $11 million in 2012, with $6.5 million guaranteed.
    ———
    Goodbye Kam

    Can’t believe that Kam is actually acting like that, but if so…goodbye Kam! Thanks for all of those sacks on Rivers!

  112. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What’s with Herrera’s faded gray jeans on that day he was messing with Kawakami?

    He should have been fired for wearing those!!!

  113. RaiderDuck Says:

    Mark Clemens Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    NFL.com says #Raiders linebacker Kamerion Wimbley not interested in pay cut. Set to earn $11 million in 2012, with $6.5 million guaranteed.
    ———
    Goodbye Kam

    =============================================

    If he’s not interested in restructuring, then goodbye. We need players who will commit 100% to the TEAM. I have no doubt Curry won’t mind restructuring, and he can slide right into Wimbley’s spot as the good-rush-but-sucky-coverage LB.

  114. hwnrdr Says:

    Duck, all I ever wanted was for him to step down. October 8th was a sad day for me…Hence Mark saying that change came that day! RIP Al!

  115. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kam doesn’t have enough passion for the game for that contract.

    Reggie will see right through his act.

  116. BewareofRaiders Says:

    Wow Kam not taking pay cut…tisk tisk

  117. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    Duck, all I ever wanted was for him to step down. October 8th was a sad day for me…Hence Mark saying that change came that day! RIP Al!

    ==============================================

    Al should have retired gracefully 20 years ago. Wolf or Herock would have taken over, and they went on to build Super Bowl teams in other organizations.

  118. downsouthraider Says:

    Mark is wise to sever ties with Al’s cronies. CODE BLACK 2012 and beyond

  119. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Curry has 5.5 sacks in 46 career games.

    I don’t think Kam is that great, but highly doubt Curry would be any type of improvement as a pass rusher.

  120. hwnrdr Says:

    I believe that too, JFB! Sad that he refuses. Anyone else refusing? Kam needs to know that there is no “I” in team! Heck, I think Groves will want to come back for a chance to prove himself with Holland!

  121. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
    Hwnrdr Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    Duck, all I ever wanted was for him to step down. October 8th was a sad day for me…Hence Mark saying that change came that day! RIP Al!

    ==============================================

    Al should have retired gracefully 20 years ago. Wolf or Herock would have taken over, and they went on to build Super Bowl teams in other organizations.

    That I will agree with! Loved Al but he needed to step down!

  122. downsouthraider Says:

    Reggie will make Wimbley and others with those high scholarships a offer or they can go kick rocks. The days of being non-productive are over.

  123. RaiderDuck Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Curry has 5.5 sacks in 46 career games.

    I don’t think Kam is that great, but highly doubt Curry would be any type of improvement as a pass rusher.

    =======================================

    But was Curry being used as a pass rusher in Seattle?

  124. JB Says:

    If Kam Wimbley refuses to be a team player by restructuring and taking a pay hit (which is justified based on last years results), he doesn’t have to be a team player. RM will simply remove him from the team leaving him simply a playah. We can do without Wimbley if need be. He wasn’t effective as a OLB and probably should be a DE anyway. Time for RM to find us some real LB’ers.

  125. JB Says:

    Curry would be good as a blitzing ILB in a 3-4 IMO. He’s no good in coverage so use him to blow up the middle of the line and make sure nobody passes the LOS with the ball. RoMac seems to perform better when Curry is next to him. Let them both play ILB in a 3-4 configuration. Curry blitzes and RoMac takes the near zone pass protector.

  126. djohnnyg Says:

    I don’t recall ANYBODY “celebrating” over back to back 8-8 seasons, unless I missed that.

    I don’t “celebrate” 8-8 but I don’t think we have been “garbage” or the ver popular “laughingstock” the last 2 yrs. either.

    32 teams in the league. Raiders rank 14th in wins over this recent 2 yr. span. Like it or not that is in the upper half of the league. That is hardly “laughingstock” or “garbage”.

    Does it suck that we could’ve been much better than that and blew it? Heck yes. Am I satisfied with 8-8? No freaking way.

  127. Just Win Baby Says:

    This fire sale is just getting started.

  128. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Al Davis would be ashamed of fans tallying regular season wins.

  129. RaiderDuck Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    Al Davis would be ashamed of fans tallying regular season wins.

    =======================================

    THIS.

    But in the last decade, that’s all we’ve had.

    It’s why I say again that the Al Davis of the 60s and 70s would have held the Al Davis of the 2000s in absolute contempt, if not hatred.

  130. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Al was clearly a brilliant man and football thinker in the 60’s and 70’s.

    Makes his recent run all that more terrible.

    In all honesty, I think he ran this club the last 5-6 years, with about 65% of his faculties with him.

  131. Raider O Says:

    RIP Mr. Davis.
    Good luck Herrera. I will miss you too.

  132. Raider O Says:

    80’s too.

  133. Raider O Says:

    According to NFL news, “The Raiders have difficult decisions with linebackers Aaron Curry ($5.75 million base salary) and Rolando McClain, whose off-field issues and attitude may have worn out his welcome with Reggie McKenzie trying to establish a new mentality as Oakland’s general manager. Kamerion Wimbley, another highly paid Raiders linebacker (due to make $11 million in 2012), is not interested in taking a pay cut to stay, league sources said. Oakland defensive lineman Tommy Kelly ($6 million base) is another potential cap target. The Raiders are likely to restructure Richard Seymour’s massive deal, as well”.

    I thought Wimbley would be more than happy to restructure his contract, but I guess I was wrong (according to the article). I hope it’s not true.

  134. Seymour Bush Says:

    Master Beeecham Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Yo yo yo, it’s time to end another era and have Corkran sever ties with Krappy.
    ======================================

    Krappy is one of the “blog personalities”. You are the backup ass wipe to Jamista Clown.

  135. Marks hair Says:

    Did I see wimbley wont restructure? That sucks, see ya..

  136. Marks hair Says:

    Send anyone overpaid packing reg..

  137. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Curry has 5.5 sacks in 46 career games.

    I don’t think Kam is that great, but highly doubt Curry would be any type of improvement as a pass rusher.

    =======================================

    But was Curry being used as a pass rusher in Seattle?
    =========================================

    He was but he was ineffectual. Again, Curry was not used right. Everyone and their blind and deaf relative knew Curry was coming off the edge, so it made him basically fodder. I have always said Curry would be best used inside. I still feel that way. Bye McLame.

  138. Marks hair Says:

    Allen: hc
    Reggie: gm
    M.Davis: owner
    Marks hair: seinor executive/spokeshair

  139. djohnnyg Says:

    128.Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    Al Davis would be ashamed of fans tallying regular season wins.

    He’d also be ashamed of fans calling his team a “laughingstock” and “garbage”.

    I point out the 14th ranking in wins to give some perspective to those fans that keep referring to the team in such derisive terms as those noted.

    8-8 is not good “in my world” at all but it shows progress from “laughingstock” status. That’s all.

  140. Marks hair Says:

    New age Raiders

  141. No Lo Says:

    Adios Wimbley. Adios Curry. Adios McClain.

  142. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Al was clearly a brilliant man and football thinker in the 60’s and 70’s.

    Makes his recent run all that more terrible.

    In all honesty, I think he ran this club the last 5-6 years, with about 65% of his faculties with him.
    ============================================

    No, Davis had his faculties up until the end. It’s just that the things that worked and worked well in the 60’s and 70’s didn’t work in the 90’s and 21st century. Times change. There’s an expression, “times change, people don’t”, well, sometimes people change too.

  143. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Back in the day, in L.A., I knew Herrera when he was an up-and-coming yes-man. It was easy to tell then that he really wasn’t smoooove enough to be anyone’s PR guy…especially the voice of a major enterprise like an NFL team.

    BUT…it was also unmistakeable: the guy was as loyal to the Raiders, and his boss, as anyone could be. He was clumsy, sometimes gruff, and often not well liked. Not the brightest bulb, but not an idiot. And, he was trusted by Al.

    I’m sure he wasn’t just kicked to the curb, he was given a nice going-away present. Mark Davis isn’t the kind of guy to just cut-off one of his father’s most loyal soldiers, with a “no thanks, see ya later.”

    The next time we hear from Herrera, he’ll be pitching his memoirs…or we’ll never hear publicly about him again.

  144. Method To My Madness Says:

    Fk it if we gonna change then change all of the way! Palmer gotta go

  145. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yeah all raider LBs can go too…Ford you can leave and Dmac too….noone is safe

  146. Marks hair Says:

    I think disguising our defense and playing aggressive will be our m.o for me, a defense like that need that nt/dt who can be the keystone.. I like soliai. Dump guys until we can afford him..

  147. Seymour Bush Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Palmer gotta go
    ======================================

    OK, Palmer’s gone. Who’s the starting Q? You?

  148. Raider O Says:

    B,

    If we let Palmer go, who will start at QB next season?
    TP is not ready IMO, and JC is a FA.

  149. Marks hair Says:

    Are there any linebackers named mathews we can draft?

  150. Raider O Says:

    I think we keep Palmer, McClain, and Curry (he will restructure his contract IMO).
    Btw, I’m still not convinced that Wimbley will not restructure. League sources have been wrong before.

  151. No Lo Says:

    Re 147. “Kyle Boller lookin’ real strong,” says me, Huebert J. Jackson.

  152. Seymour Bush Says:

    TP is not ready IMO, and JC is a FA.
    ======================================

    Pryor may NEVER be ready. And we have seen enough of JC to know Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, he ain’t.

  153. Seymour Bush Says:

    Maybe Brien can come out, 5′11″, 190, undrafted, an absolute star in the Raider parking lot C, and completely blow everyone away. But I am putting my money on a Heisman Trophy winner Palmer.

  154. djohnnyg Says:

    #148,

    Boller starts in 2012.

    (for the Edmonton Eskimos)

  155. Marks hair Says:

    Maybe draft kellen moore? Late pic looks like a wc guy. Might be a nice back up if tp fails.

  156. Raider O Says:

    Dj,

    Is my boy F Joseph still playing LB for the Eskimos?

  157. Seymour Bush Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Palmer gotta go
    ===================================

    I said this awhile ago. Other teams embrace their players. Modern Raider fan doesn’t. Raider team doesn’t develop ANYONE. Coincidence??

  158. Chris in NY Says:

    You guys kill me.

    Get rid of Wimbley.

    Get rid of Curry.

    Get rid of Palmer.

    Trade McFadden.

    Good riddance Stan Routt.

    Just answer me this: are there more than five players on this roster who you’d prefer to unknown, undrafted rookies and other teams’ castoffs? Because if you dump all these guys that’s basically the bin you’re picking from to replace them with.

  159. Marks hair Says:

    157? Yes. A.D drafted and tried to develope many bad picks.. The fans had nothing to do with it. Even the lame fans who hope our players fail..

  160. Seymour Bush Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    You guys kill me.

    Get rid of Wimbley.

    Get rid of Curry.

    Get rid of Palmer.

    Trade McFadden.

    Good riddance Stan Routt.

    Just answer me this: are there more than five players on this roster who you’d prefer to unknown, undrafted rookies and other teams’ castoffs? Because if you dump all these guys that’s basically the bin you’re picking from to replace them with.
    ===========================================

    Exactly. This is what I am talking about. So, we cut routt. And throw in some 4th rounder who plays actually well his lst game. Next thing you know, Raider fan is saying, he didn’t get four picks his lst game. Get rid of him.

  161. Marks hair Says:

    We just need to adjust a few wack contracts.. The guys who wont help out should go. But Dmac earns his $$. When he plays, we are special.

  162. Seymour Bush Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    157? Yes. A.D drafted and tried to develope many bad picks..
    ——————————————-

    How do you know they were bad picks? Raider fan booed them off the stage. Sterling Moore wasn’t a bad pick…

  163. Marks hair Says:

    Im a little surprised with wimbley. its his second nice deal, and he could really help us out.

  164. Marks hair Says:

    162. Moore wasnt a pick at all. If he was al would have given him a scholorship.

  165. Hardline Says:

    Seymour Bush, #160

    True enough. But our 4th rounder needs to get more than 11 INT’s in 8 seasons – like our supposed “shut down corner” Nnamdi.

  166. Chris in NY Says:

    Gotta remember it’s a business. Can’t get on Wimbley’s case without knowing the details. For one, it could just be part of the negotiating process. Two, we have no idea how much of a real cut they’re asking him to take.

  167. Chris in NY Says:

    Wimbley seems like a good guy. He’s no punk.

  168. uglyorc Says:

    Nobody outside the Raiders front office really knows what exactly his job was so its hard to speculate on why he was let go. Mark Davis obviously isnt going to run the organization the same way Al Davis did. So some people are going to have to either change and adjust to Mark or take a hike. I imagine Herrera made a lot of money to do whatever he did. Mark is having to dish money for McKenzie and is likely paying the coaching staff more than before. He doesnt need to be paying senior executives who’s services are no longer needed.

  169. Hardline Says:

    Uglyorc,

    I think Mark and crew are eliminating non-needed staff members. Remember: attenuate the taint.

  170. Chris in NY Says:

    Nnamdi is a shutdown corner. Absolutely. He shuts down whoever he’s guarding 99% of the time. It’s why he only give up about 16 catches per season most of the time. Teams don’t throw at him, thus the low pick totals. I wouldn’t necessarily call him a playmaker. But shutdown corner? Absolutely.

  171. Master Beeecham Says:

    YO LOB CITY HOMIES SPARK A J AND GET LIGGITY

    Whut Whut the Clip Joint is in full effect, getting ready to “Lazer the Blazers” (patent pending)

    Griffin, Paul & Co getting fly on fast break basketball. Last time I was in Portland I got baked on pot brownies and got my nads polished by a horny hippy named Freedom.

    Freedom to unleash my signature load! Yo, that’s just how the Beeech Dawg keeps it real

    Yo Hardline check these mo fresh lyrics, word

    Clip Joint rocking, Dem Blazers will fall
    Lob City frontin’ with Jordan and Paul
    Yo, Blake Griffin, homeboy gots to get meaner
    While the Beeech Dawg get another Bj on his weiner

    SIZZLE FRESH, BK BREAKFAST IN DA HOUSE

  172. Marks hair Says:

    I like wimbley, im just disappointed he’d rather play somewhere else.

  173. Hardline Says:

    Chris in NY,

    I didn’t say Nnamdi wasn’t a good player. IMO, he’s not great.

  174. Marks hair Says:

    Its 52clips 60blaz beging of the 4th. Zzzzz

  175. Hardline Says:

    Master Beeecham, 171

    Somebody hijacked your screenname today, and posted twice on it, brah. Unless, that is, you are suffering from schzophrenia and multiple personality syndrome.

    Just though you should know.

  176. Marks hair Says:

    And the Lakers put down the most lobs.. Check it

  177. Hardline Says:

    can’t help but mention the Lakers spin,
    aint no question about Jeremy Lin,
    boy is tweaking and is bad as sin,

    hits em high, hits em low,
    just where he will come from no one knows,

    meanwhile Beeecham sits quite dandy,
    with his crew and his girls, he getting sweet candy,

    someone here came off as a fraud,
    didn’t fool me cuz I’m a big dog,

    Beeecham never shows in the afternoon,
    he sleeping in late with his puerta Rican June,

    We’ll be waitin for some lyrics describing the life,
    Unless Beeecham gets stupid and finds himself a wife!

    zzzuuurip, zzzuuurip, zzzurrrip…..burp

  178. zopi Says:

    A total clean up and rebuild job is under way. Got to believe that whomever is advising Mark Davis, could be both Madden and Wolf, said clean it up boy. Herrera, was old school Raider Nation, groomed by Al Davis for over 40 years. Just think about that for a minute, through thick and thin I am sure, from gopher and errand boy, to senior mouth piece and enforcer. Heck, I am sure many of us here wouldn’t mind taking a few shots at Kakawami and the rest of the cess pool of “reporters” in the Bay Area, who have trashed the Raiders at will since the return of the team to OakTown. Too bad is Herrera that goes and not the cess pool.

    But, if the clean up is under way, why sign Packer trash?
    Can’t understand this Underwood move. I thought RegMac was serious about changing the old attitude and getting rid of our own trash. Maybe RegMac needed a gopher.

  179. UCLA Raiders Says:

    I guess Kawakami could walk the raiders hallways again without threat f John jumping him.

    Yet another embarrassment has been erased from the organization. Addition by subtraction.

    Thank you to whoever made this move.

  180. djohnnyg Says:

    156.Raider O Says:
    February 16th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    Dj,

    Is my boy F Joseph still playing LB for the Eskimos?

    Ha.

    Not anymore.

    Good ole “Franzy” is now playting for the Spokane Shock (arena league).

    Jerome Boyd can join him.

  181. djohnnyg Says:

    #177,

    Hardline,

    Layin’ down some mad lyrics in the sizzhouse.

    Don’t tell me you joined the Certified Platinum Posse?

  182. djohnnyg Says:

    I have a ?,

    IF Hue “had to go” becuz the Raiders failed to live up to expectations then that is saying that in Mark’s (or whomever’s) opinion, the Raiders had a good enuff team to make the playoffs and win the west; and possibly go deep in the playoffs.

    Ok. Then why do we need to “blow up” the team that supposedly was good enuff to do these great things that Hue was not able to get the most out of.

    On the other hand, if this team is so awful that it needs to be “rebuilt” and “blown up” etc. then actually Hue did a pretty darn good job of coaching by getting a team that needs to be “re-built” and “blown up” to an 8-8 record.

    Which is it?

  183. djohnnyg Says:

    My post above is not meant to infer that I don’t like the Dennis Allen hire. I do. Absolutely behind it, I just didn’t hate Hue.

    May I ask, if Hue did get an OC gig somewhere does that take the Raiders off the hook for the 2 mill. they owe him?

    I was wondering if that had anything to do with him not getting a shot as an asst. anywhere else.

    I’m thinking the Raiders would still have to pay him, but just curious.

  184. djohnnyg Says:

    Well, so much for talking to myself.

    I bid you all a very pleasent evening and an even more pleasent tomorrow.

  185. joker94583 Says:

    Who cares what was behind Herrera’s firing the bottom line is that A hole is gone! Thank goodness! No more diapers to change and chins to wipe so he became even more useless. Herrera couldn’t be reached for comment, oh man is that just perfect or what. See ya!

  186. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See February 16, 2012 « Raiders Central - The Ultimate Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

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  187. fingers Says:

    Herrera gone…!…ok…not much of an issue with me…… Fix the pitiful defense … Plug the holes on offense…. Those are my issues…. Don’t care either way about Herrera …

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