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NFL `guarantees’ are occasionally pipe dreams

Once upon a time the Raiders traded for cornerback DeAngelo Hall, who received a seven-year, $70 million contract with $24.5 million in guaranteed money.

The Raiders later cut Hall eight games into the season and paid him $8 million for his troubles.

Which brings us to Kamerion Wimbley, Stanford Routt, and the erratic way information regarding contracts is relayed in the NFL.

Wimbley was given an exclusive franchise tag about a year ago which guaranteed him approximately $11.3 million following a nine-sack season. The Raiders then renegotiated his deal to drop his salary cap number to $1.6 million. It was reported as a $48 million dollar deal with a whopping $29 million in guaranteed money.

Except Wimbley’s deal apparently wasn’t anything approaching $29 million in guaranteed money. The Raiders can get out of it by cutting him and paying him $6.5 million.

According to Adam Caplan, who has much of this contract stuff wired and was the first to report Wimbley’s situation last year, Wimbley earned $5 million last season ($4.25 million signing bonus, $750,000 salary).

This season, Wimbley’s base salary is $11 million and $6.5 million is guaranteed. Wimbley makes that amount even if he is cut. The rest of his contract ($4.5 million) is guaranteed as of March 17.

Add it up, and he earned almost $200,000 above and beyond his $11.3 million salary cap figure by agreeing to the restructure.

But as far as the Raiders owing him $29 million guaranteed, well, . . . the Raiders are off the hook for much of that figure if Wimbley is cut before March 17.

That’s a long way of saying take any “guaranteed” money with a grain of salt.

Routt’s three-year $31.5 million extension was reported as guaranteed to the tune of $20 million. Now there are reports that it was actually $15 million, with the Raiders having escaped a $5 million guarantee by cutting him what they did. A great deal for Routt, either way, he’ll get to sign another contract.

Still, contract reporting is one of the most imprecise parts of the business. That’s why you’ll see the word “reported” preceding most, if not all, contract issues that are dealt with here.

Agents are OK with overblown reports of guarantees because prospective clients will see it and figure they can get the same. Teams aren’t concerned with it because if they’re viewed as a team that pays that kind of money, what the heck? And it’s not as if players are going to step forward immediately after signing a contract and say, “You know, this isn’t nearly as big of a contract as it looks.”

So don’t reach too much into “guaranteed money” if the Raiders opt to part with Wimbley, frees safety Michael Huff ($4 million in salary, $4 million in bonus) or defensive tackle Tommy Kelly ($6 million in salary).

McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen could attempt to sign them for less or simply move on.

It’s hard to know what they’ve got planned for strong safety Tyvon Branch, a prospective free agent. San Diego safety Eric Weddle signed a contract last year with guaranteed money reported as high as $19 million, although it’s hard to know if it really approached that figure.

There’s a chance McKenzie, Allen and Co. may look at the defensive performance in 2011 and conclude that anyone coming in at a high price isn’t worth keeping and that those with reasonable salaries can be fitted in with low-level or street free agents and the end result couldn’t possibly be worse.

The other prominent free agent is running back Michael Bush, who if franchised would get more than $7 million.

It’s what makes this offseason the most interesting since the Raiders returned to Oakland in 1995.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Why did you have a man crush on JLh?

    ***

    I miss Johnnie Lee. that kid had PLAYMAKER written all over him.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO

  • djohnnyg

    #292,

    I do kind of remember that guy now. Interesting why that guy would choose that name.

  • bcz24

    296.MistaBrown Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Go cry to mommy…
    ***********************
    Why you haven’t had enough from a 12 year old girl, you now what my mom to school you as well?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I agree about Huff. He is an avg player who is not worth that huge contract Al gave him.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    RR,

    I never said McClain will be the next Ray Lewis. I miss F Joseph. lol

  • RaiderRockstar

    O,

    JLH was a 3rd rounder with JaWalrus as his QB

    McClain was a Top 10 pick playing behind Seymour & Kelly!

    apples & oranges imo

  • RaiderRockstar

    I never said McClain will be the next Ray Lewis. I miss F Joseph

    ***

    watching ROMAC play makes me miss Frantz Joseph as well!

  • Raider Dell

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    You remember our debates about Huff? I wanted him gone, and you wanted to give him more time.

    ***

    O,

    It was never about “more time” imo. You said he sucks, I said he’s a player.

    apparently we were both wrong. He is serviceable, but he’s not a Pro Bowler and he’s not a bum

    WAY overpaid though. another terrible contract courtesy of Al Davis

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Let’s see, Raider O has a debate with RRS, and I have a debate with Raider O on the same player, Michael Huff.

    My debate was if Huff could play corner, yet Raider O defended his position like he was his agent, and the next great corner, cause he played a little bit in Texas as a colege player. Raider O argument was to move him there to corner, cause he can’t tackle. Now I read, Raider O always thought of Huff as a player who sucked, way to be on both sides of the debate Raider O. RRS, thanks for bringing the comment up. I know now the debate was won by me, and Raider O showed his true feelings, about the player, or sort of a player.

  • hwnrdr

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 6:03 am
    WAS THERE A MUSHROOM CLOUD THIS MORNING ?? AM I THE LAST LIVING SOUL ??

    LOL, Good Morning Nation!!!
    Dirt Lot, Bcz, Dell, O, MB…what’s up guys? Off today, hence coming in here a little later than usual…

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Ok Bcz you took me to school with “blah blah blah”. I give up! You dropped some serious knowledge! Why NFLN hasn’t scooped you up by now is beyond me.

    lmfao

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Hwn how it do ?

  • hwnrdr

    Doing good Mista! Just me and the kids today!

  • Raider Dell

    Hwnrdr,

    morning

  • hwnrdr

    BBL…

  • hwnrdr

    Morning Dell…just enjoying the day off! Last 3 day weekend for awhile!

  • RaiderRockstar

    My debate was if Huff could play corner, yet Raider O defended his position like he was his agent, and the next great corner, cause he played a little bit in Texas as a colege player. Raider O argument was to move him there to corner, cause he can’t tackle. Now I read, Raider O always thought of Huff as a player who sucked, way to be on both sides of the debate Raider O.

    ***

    Dell,

    some guys are just going to hate. Sort of like BSJ with DMAC & Condo. Huff is not a fit at CB imo. I think he can tackle just fine (for a safety). My issue with him is his contract. He doesn’t make enough plays to justify it. Look at Matt Giordano. We signed that guy off the street for next to nothing and he comes in with a reserve role and leads the team with 5 INT’s!

    That tells me there are plays on the football to be made and he just isn’t makng them. Decent enough in coverage and passes defensed are cool, but he’s not a game changer. I can think of 2 plays he’s made to game the outcome of ballgames since he was drafted. Sack/Fumble on Philip Rivers in 2010. Int of Matt Schaub in 2011. Anything else ???

  • djohnnyg

    As a long suffering fan, it may be selfish of me, but after all, i’m not an NFL employee, nor am i an employee of the Raiders who needs to concentrate on and worry about the business side of things and how much $ we are spending etc. Only to the extent that it affects the salary cap and things the team can do as far as signings etc.

    My job as a fan is to let THEM worry about it and me worry about turning on the TV in September and seeing a good team on the field.

    I have enuff problems.

    It’s interesting to get on here and speculate about how they will handle things as that is what this is all about, but…

    I like to hear that they are doing things everyday to get better.

    I think we know by now Herrera is leaving (or not) and Routt was let go.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    How many?
    __

    Hwnrdr Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Doing good Mista! Just me and the kids today!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Dell,

    LMAO
    I thought Huff sucked at S, and I wanted him to move around more. Play CB, NB, and FS to take advantage of his speed and coverage skills.

  • djohnnyg

    Next time I log on i’d like to see “Raiders sign Mario Williams and Cliff Avril”.

    Mark and Amy can worry about how they’re gonna pay those guys.

    We don’t always get what we want though.

  • 504 Raider

    315.hwnrdr Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Morning Dell…just enjoying the day off! Last 3 day weekend for awhile!

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    Should’ve lived down here in the N.O.

    5 day weekend. Mardi Gras tomorrow. Got to go score a king cake to get my day started.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Hwnrdr,

    Good morning brother.

  • hwnrdr

    Mista, I have 2
    504, really…NO lets you have 5 days off for the Mardi gras?
    What’s up, O?

  • Raider Dell

    Raider O Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
    Dell,

    LMAO
    I thought Huff sucked at S, and I wanted him to move around more. Play CB, NB, and FS to take advantage of his speed and coverage skills.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Raider O,

    Thanks for the clarificatio. I realize now our debate was on a player who sucks, at any position.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    MistaBrown Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    BO is an american tragedy and a disgrace to the office.

    ==============================================

    He’s a big improvement over the last guy…

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I said we should use Huff the same way GB uses Woodson, because Huff had issues with tackling, but he has good speed and coverage skills.

    My point is very simple.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Huff improved his tackling, but he is not a playmaker at S. I still think we should move him around, if we keep him (I rather keep resign Branch).

  • Raider Dell

    Raider O,

    Huff sucks, get over it.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Dell,

    I can’t say he sucks now since he improved his tackling, but I like to explore different options at this point.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    LMAO!!

  • 504 Raider

    Yep Hwnrdr,

    Monday, Tues, Wed are holidays here. Will Ferrell was king of (Bacchus) the parade i went to last night. It’s pretty wild down here right now.

  • hwnrdr

    504 Raider Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Yep Hwnrdr,

    Monday, Tues, Wed are holidays here. Will Ferrell was king of (Bacchus) the parade i went to last night. It’s pretty wild down here right now.

    NICE!!!

  • Raider Dell

    504 Raider Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Yep Hwnrdr,

    Monday, Tues, Wed are holidays here. Will Ferrell was king of (Bacchus) the parade i went to last night. It’s pretty wild down here right now.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Thanks for ruining my Monday, as I lookover balance sheets and tax issues.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Hwnrdr,

    Maybe we should move to NO. Good food & music, extras days off, and Mardi Gras.
    Mardi Gras!! Hummmm ummmm
    I got lots of beeds!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Beads*

  • 504 Raider

    Here’s where I get my king cakes. Sorry you guys can’t be here to enjoy the festivities:

    https://www.randazzokingcake.com/?gclid=CNSrkNiRra4CFYuc7Qodr2ItSg

  • RaiderRockstar

    Routt’s new deal expected today

    Posted by Mike Florio (PFT)

    On Sunday morning, we reported that former Raiders cornerback Stanford Routt will soon be picking his next team.

    We now expect that decision to be finalized and formalized today.

    Routt has visited the Bills, Chiefs, and Bengals since being released by the Raiders, who made the move to avoid fully guaranteeing his $5 million base salary for 2012. (Routt nevertheless leaves with $10 million in hand and another $5 million on the way; even DeAngelo Hall thinks that’s a good haul for a short stint in Oakland.)

    Since the Chiefs play the Raiders twice per year and they face the possible departure of Brandon Carr via free agency and they use the same kind of man-to-man style with which Routt is familiar, we’ve got a feeling Routt will be wearing an arrowhead on his next helmet.

  • 504 Raider

    You guys can get the same king cakes I get. There is a baby hidden in the cake. The tradition is whoever gets the baby has to buy the next king cake.

  • RaiderRockstar
  • Marks hair

    Huff needs to go. Bad angles, bad tackling, bad coverage..

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    504,

    Who cares about Cake. Can we get the same girls?

  • r8eray

    With today being the first day to tag players, I could see the Raiders 1 of these two things…

    1. Tag Bush, the reason I say that is because of DMC’s history with injurys. Also, if Bush were to be tagged I could see us trading DMC to recoup some draft picks in this years draft.

    2. Tag Branch, he’s a keeper, we have greater need on defense than offense. Bush leaves for starter money, watch DMC and Jones to take care of the back field!

    Also with Routt signing today with the Chiefs I wouldn’t be surprised to see Carr in the Silver and Black!!!

    Write it down, take a picture…..

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I have to see Mardi Gras in NO and the Carnival in Rio. That’s a party.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Tag Branch!

  • hwnrdr

    Raider O Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Hwnrdr,

    Maybe we should move to NO. Good food & music, extras days off, and Mardi Gras.
    Mardi Gras!! Hummmm ummmm
    I got lots of beeds!

    I know right?

  • 504 Raider

    341.Raider O Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 10:15 am
    504,

    Who cares about Cake. Can we get the same girls?

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    You gotta be down here to get that. And they were looking good out there last night I must say.

  • bcz24

    How incrediblely awesome would it be to watch the Chiefs ‘upgrade’ their CB position going from Carr to Routt… lol. If they sign him, I hope they don’t plan on using him at nickle, he is terrible inside.

  • toolnutz

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
    Former Oakland CB Stanford Routt reached agreement with the Kansas City Chiefs.

  • M Lonetree

    Huff the Tragic Longhorn
    Failed bad on D
    And stinking up the Autumn Wind
    He sucked at safety

    Huff the Tragic Longhorn
    Failed bad on D
    Now some say cornerback where
    He’d suck for all to see

    -Peter,Paul&Mary

  • r8eray

    Per a source with knowledge of the situation, he has. The source says it’s a three-year deal worth just under $20 million.