Raiders live chat today at 1 p.m.
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, February 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am in Oakland Raiders.
Join Steve Corkran today at 1 p.m. as he talks Raiders football, including discussions about replacing Stanford Routt.
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February 21st, 2012 at 10:35 am
#1
February 21st, 2012 at 10:36 am
Cut them all Reggie!!!!!!!! Burn this disease ridden defense to the ground and start over!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:36 am
Soooooooo excited!
Not!!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:37 am
I think it’s hilarious that everybody agrees the defense sucks, but everybody also agrees none of the starters should be cut or traded!
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If you can trade these contracts away, we are talking a whole different story. We are 11 million over the cap. If we cut McClain tomorrow, we are now 19 million over the cap, explain how that in anyway shape or form improves the team?
February 21st, 2012 at 10:37 am
lots of overpaid, or underachieving guys left on the defense though:
Seymour
McClain
Huff
Wimbley
Curry
Kelly
Take less money or walk and be replaced by real football players!
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Dakota, I agree
but apparently thats not fiscally responsible
the scholarship program has term’d. no contract is safe, regardless if it’s look like a steep hurdle to overcome (on paper)
McClain and many should be ON NOTICE
I think it’s hilarious that everybody agrees the defense sucks, but everybody also agrees none of the starters should be cut or traded!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Undrafted free agents and guys released from other teams could play as well as these overpaid, underachievers we have on D!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
BCZ,
we should be able to trade McClain for a 5th or 6th
February 21st, 2012 at 10:39 am
There’s gotta be a way to trade Romac and pay off some of the cap hit, isn’t there? Say like trade him for a 7th rounder, and maybe pay some of the salary and let the other team pick up the rest…
February 21st, 2012 at 10:39 am
Cut them all!
lunch time!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:39 am
Dakota,
guys released from prison could play as well as these overpaid, underachievers we have on D
replace ROMAC with Odell Thurman!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Routt was our best CB. And that is sad, very sad.
Thinking Routt is a starting CB is like when after years of Marcus Allen and Bo, fans were saddled with thinking Harvey Williams was a real RB…
Raider fans have grown so accustomed to mediocrity, that they even argue over which mediocre player is better.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Sooooooo, if we’re keeping Seymour and we have Houston who could be looking at some time in the middle. Than Kelly should kick rocks. We can sign a real force in the middle w/ this dudes $$.
Base Salary S. Bonus Misc. Bonus
2012 6,000,000 1,857,142 1,035,714
2013 6,500,000 1,857,142 1,035,714
2014 7,000,000 1,857,142 1,035,714
February 21st, 2012 at 10:41 am
Live chat = same questions answered 15 times and many questions unanswered but responded to. No thanks.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:41 am
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Undrafted free agents and guys released from other teams could play as well as these overpaid, underachievers we have on D!
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It’s kinda crazy that the statement above is true in some ways.
1. Dave Tollefson and Kevin Boothe were cut by us and got playing time with the Giants.
2. Sterling Moore made more impact plays in his brief NE career than Routt in his entire career here. Yes I am exaggerating to some extent but I’m still bitter we cut Moore.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:42 am
Nice post Lowdown #11
Perspective is everything and when our expectations are set so low we also have lowered perspective.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:43 am
I don’t mind cleaning house, as long as we use the new cap room to go after some top tier FA’s. But I don’t see that happening. We’ll all be kicking rocks then.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:43 am
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Thinking Routt is a starting CB is like when after years of Marcus Allen and Bo, fans were saddled with thinking Harvey Williams was a real RB…
Raider fans have grown so accustomed to mediocrity, that they even argue over which mediocre player is better.
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This doesn’t make any sense but I think I get your point!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:44 am
Seymour – agreed to restructure, will work a realistic contract to make cap space
McClain – prohibitively expensive to cut, would cust 13.5 million towards the cap due to signing bonus accelleration, only counts 5 mill towards the cap to keep him
Huff – cut him or keep him, cap hit is the same (about 5.5 million)
Wimbley – can save 4.5 mill by cutting him, but leaves a big hole in the already very weak LB core
Curry – will negotiate a new contract or be cut saving $5 million
Kelly – Cap hit for him is 8.92 million, looks like we can save about 3 million by cutting him (cap hit if cut would be 5.6 million due to accelleration of signing bonus)
February 21st, 2012 at 10:44 am
Live chat = same questions answered 15 times and many questions unanswered but responded to. No thanks.
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CW,
99% of questions or comments in the Live Chat will be about Stan Routt, who is no longer a Raider!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:45 am
Raider fans have grown so accustomed to mediocrity, that they even argue over which mediocre player is better.
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Personally, I’d replace mediocrity with under achievers. Still very good observation though.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:46 am
lol lol lol . almost forgot about that bobble head Harvey Williams. got scared everytime i watched him run, thought someone was going to break that pencil neck of his !!! lol lol lol
February 21st, 2012 at 10:47 am
McClain – prohibitively expensive to cut, would cust 13.5 million towards the cap due to signing bonus accelleration, only counts 5 mill towards the cap to keep him
Huff – cut him or keep him, cap hit is the same (about 5.5 million)
Wimbley – can save 4.5 mill by cutting him, but leaves a big hole in the already very weak LB core
Kelly – Cap hit for him is 8.92 million, looks like we can save about 3 million by cutting him (cap hit if cut would be 5.6 million due to accelleration of signing bonus)
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Seymour is doing the right thing. I think Curry will too
if these other guys don’t get in line … CLEAN HOUSE!
G123, I won’t be kicking rocks after we win the AFC West … will you?
February 21st, 2012 at 10:47 am
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Undrafted free agents and guys released from other teams could play as well as these overpaid, underachievers we have on D!
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It’s kinda crazy that the statement above is true in some ways.
1. Dave Tollefson and Kevin Boothe were cut by us and got playing time with the Giants.
2. Sterling Moore made more impact plays in his brief NE career than Routt in his entire career here. Yes I am exaggerating to some extent but I’m still bitter we cut Moore.
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Chris Carr never got a shot at CB, but ended up starting for the Ravens…now a Raider-Hater…
February 21st, 2012 at 10:48 am
almost forgot about that bobble head Harvey Williams. got scared everytime i watched him run, thought someone was going to break that pencil neck of his !!!
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Mike,
him and Merton Hanks must have been related
February 21st, 2012 at 10:48 am
lol lol lol must have been brothers with diffrent mothers !! lol lol lol
February 21st, 2012 at 10:49 am
I asked my friend the other day about position coaches…I forgot that the name of Ted Gilmore, asked my friend who is the wr coach…without thinking, he said Rickey Dudley! I started to laugh…I’m like, if he is coach in any capacity…well, you get the point!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:49 am
20.aig-raiders Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:45 am
Raider fans have grown so accustomed to mediocrity, that they even argue over which mediocre player is better.
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Personally, I’d replace mediocrity with under achievers. Still very good observation though.
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Maybe I’m a few brain cells shy today after a very busy weekend… isn’t the way he worded that saying Bo and Marcuse were mediocre?
February 21st, 2012 at 10:49 am
7.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
BCZ,
we should be able to trade McClain for a 5th or 6th
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That would still be a 13.5 mill cap hit for us. We paid the guy his entire $23 million guaranteed up front in the form of a signing bonus. The bonus got prorated over the life of the contract at $4.6 million per year against the cap, if he is no longer on the roster the cap hit for that bonus comes due immediately
February 21st, 2012 at 10:50 am
almost forgot about that bobble head Harvey Williams. got scared everytime i watched him run, thought someone was going to break that pencil neck of his !!!
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Didn’t AD make him a TE?
February 21st, 2012 at 10:50 am
Chris Carr never got a shot at CB, but ended up starting for the Ravens
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@Dutch
Tommy Kelly, Desmond Bryant & Marcel Reece = undrafted
February 21st, 2012 at 10:51 am
Didn’t AD make him a TE?
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that was Randall Williams (Cowboys), not Harvey!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:52 am
So why can’t we sign players, yet?
Why was Routt an exception? (was it because he just got released?)
February 21st, 2012 at 10:52 am
The Giants had 17 UDFA’s on their roster for the super Bowl, NE had 11. Go find ‘em Reg!!!
February 21st, 2012 at 10:53 am
That would still be a 13.5 mill cap hit for us
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peanuts. I’ll pack his bags for him
February 21st, 2012 at 10:53 am
DMAC, yes.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:53 am
I used to watch Chris Carr’s eyes come huge whenever he was back there on the return team when the ball was coming his way…it used to crack me up…
February 21st, 2012 at 10:53 am
if these other guys don’t get in line … CLEAN HOUSE!
G123, I won’t be kicking rocks after we win the AFC West … will you?
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If we cut those guys today we would end up around 13 million OVER the salary cap, how do you replace them?
You cant expect to field a defense made up of completely UDFAs and guys making league minimum AND still think we will win the west.
IF we bite the bullet and cut ALL of those guys, as you suggest, I expect we will win less than 7 games next year.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:54 am
Thank you sir
February 21st, 2012 at 10:55 am
So why can’t we sign players, yet?
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DMAC,
players are being signed. ones who weren’t under contract last season and ones whose contract has been terminated since the season ended
check it out:
http://www.nfl.com/transactions
February 21st, 2012 at 10:56 am
Rmac stays. But the rest can go.. Sign soliai & porter.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:57 am
34.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:53 am
That would still be a 13.5 mill cap hit for us
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peanuts. I’ll pack his bags for him
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I don’t understand how you can complain about paying McClain $5 million to play for us this year, but be ok with paying $13.5 million to NOT play here.
That doesn’t make any sense to me.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:58 am
I noticed that Bryant McFadden (CB) was cut.
I think we should take a look at him for the cheap. Could compete w/ Check and DVD for that #2 or nickel.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:58 am
Would anybody trade for kelly?
February 21st, 2012 at 10:59 am
Not sure where this $8 mill per year myth is coming from but Huff is only making $5.6 mill this year.
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Michael Huff said he’s making $8 million per year. That’s figure is an average, taking his guaranteed money into consideration.
He signed a 4-year, $32 million contract. You want to do the math on that one? It might not be exactly $8 million every single year, but it’s $32 million spread out over four years – far, far too much for Michael Huff.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:59 am
42.DMAC Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:58 am
I noticed that Bryant McFadden (CB) was cut.
I think we should take a look at him for the cheap. Could compete w/ Check and DVD for that #2 or nickel.
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We cut his brother last year, he may have some bad blood towards the org, but I would cosign this.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:00 am
McKenzie already signed Routt’s replacement. His name is Brandon Underwood. Gonna miss Routt’s physical play inside 5 yards, and his world class speed, as that’s what kept him so close in coverage, but Underwood can flat out play. He has good speed (not Routt speed, but good speed), he is also very physical, a sure tackler, as evidenced by his special teams play in GB, and he is actually a playmaker at CB. His only full season in cfb, at Cincinnatti, he was their shut down db. Bottom line, Underwood can play. If he realizes that this is indeed going to be the last chance he will be given to play in the NFL, we could have a steal, and Underwood could be starting at CB for us this year.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:00 am
No way they sign Soliai. He’s gonna cost at least $13M over a 4/5 year deal. Too rich.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:00 am
Romac stays, its kind of a no brainer. Porter might come at a fair price..
February 21st, 2012 at 11:00 am
For Lowdown,
You should have said that after RB’s like Ty Montgomery, Randy Jordan & Nick Bell, we saw Harvey “longnecker” Williams as a stud RB.
But yeah, way to may underachievers and/or over rated players the past decade. Good riddance.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
McKenzie already signed Routt’s replacement. His name is Brandon Underwood.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
bcz24 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:59 am
42.DMAC Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:58 am
I noticed that Bryant McFadden (CB) was cut.
I think we should take a look at him for the cheap. Could compete w/ Check and DVD for that #2 or nickel.
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We cut his brother last year, he may have some bad blood towards the org, but I would cosign this.
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Weezy?
Dude was getting torched. lol
February 21st, 2012 at 11:02 am
LMAO at Underwood replacing Routt.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:02 am
46. Has he ever even contended for a starting job?
February 21st, 2012 at 11:02 am
Funny:
Job at the FBI
The FBI had an opening for an assassin.
After all the background checks, interviews
And testing were done, there were 3 finalists;
Two men and a woman.
For the final test, the FBI agents took one of
the men to a large metal door and handed
him a gun.
‘We must know that you will follow your
Instructions no matter what the circumstances.
Inside the room you will find your wife sitting
In a chair .. . . Kill her!!’
The man said, ‘You can’t be serious. I could
Never shoot my wife.’
The agent said, ‘Then you’re not the right man
For this job. Take your wife and go home.’
The second man was given the same instructions.
He took the gun and went into the room. All was
Quiet for about 5 minutes.
The man came out with tears in his eyes, ‘I tried,
But I can’t kill my wife.’ The agent said, ‘You don’t
Have what it takes. Take your wife and go home.’
Finally, it was the woman’s turn. She was given the
Same instructions, to kill her husband. She took the
Gun and went into the room. Shots were heard, one
After another. They heard screaming, crashing,
Banging on the walls. After a few minutes, all was
Quiet. The door opened slowly and there stood the
Woman, wiping the sweat from her brow.
‘This gun is loaded with blanks’ she said. ‘I had to
Beat him to death with the chair.’
MORAL:
Women are crazy. Don’t mess with them
February 21st, 2012 at 11:03 am
Bryant McFadden made our CB’s look solid this year. He really has regressed.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:03 am
McClain, Huff, Wimbley & Kelly gone = 6 wins for OAK ??
LOL @ BCZ
Even if we used guys like Sam Williams, Bruce Davis II Travis Goethel (healthy?) & Ricky Brown to replace McClain & Blackstock we’d be fine
Even if we used Matt Giordano to replace Huff we’d be fine.
Even if we used Quinton Groves, Jarvis Moss or Trevor Scott (as 3-4 OLB) to replace Wimbley we’d be fine.
Even if we used Bryant to replace Kelly we’d be fine.
the offense CARRIED the defense the past two seasons. I don’t expect that to happen in 2012 – even if these 4 starters are gone.
heck, throw Branch in there too. I aint gonna tag him or pay him Top 5 safety money
February 21st, 2012 at 11:05 am
But soliai can play nose and anchor a 4-3. He would give us versitility.. Romac could play ilb, where he doest suck.. We could blitz more..
February 21st, 2012 at 11:06 am
No worries w/ Romac.
Dude will walk from that incident.
If dude can come into camp in shape and shed a few pounds, I think it would help him tremendously.
This year Romac has got to show something or he’ll be shown the door by Reggie.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:06 am
Michael Huff said he’s making $8 million per year. That’s figure is an average, taking his guaranteed money into consideration.
He signed a 4-year, $32 million contract. You want to do the math on that one? It might not be exactly $8 million every single year, but it’s $32 million spread out over four years – far, far too much for Michael Huff.
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Average numbers don’t mean much brother, I am talking about actual cap hits, which from everything I can see is $5.6 million. Either way, cut him or keep him the cap hit is about the same, I would prefer to pay him to play as opposed to paying him to play somewhere else.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:07 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 11:03 am
Bryant McFadden made our CB’s look solid this year. He really has regressed.
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Sometimes…..
Sometimes all it takes is a fresh start elsewhere.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:08 am
Perhaps this is the year where NFL teams realize you don’t need to overpay runners in free agency.
Ray Rice, Matt Forte, and Marshawn Lynch are all expected to remain with their current teams under a franchise tag or long-term deal. (We’d argue the Seahawks are likely to overpay for Lynch.)
Assuming Arian Foster — a restricted free agent — stays in Houston, that leaves Michael Bush as perhaps the most complete back likely to hit the open market. We’d rank Peyton Hillis, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Cedric Benson, and Mike Tolbert as the next guys in line.
Bush wore down late last year, failing to top 80 rushing yards in his last six starts. He’s better used as a complementary player. Tolbert may be the best value of the group because he has a versatile skill and won’t cost a lot. Benson no longer breaks tackles and can’t help on passing downs.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/21/its-an-easy-year-to-avoid-overpaying-running-backs/
February 21st, 2012 at 11:09 am
I know I’m in the minority, but I want to see Q back. He’s a solid back-up LB who can play the run good and play special teams.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:10 am
Average numbers don’t mean much brother, I am talking about actual cap hits, which from everything I can see is $5.6 million. Either way, cut him or keep him the cap hit is about the same, I would prefer to pay him to play as opposed to paying him to play somewhere else.
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Huff will restructure. He’s not going to get even half of what the Raiders are paying him on the open market. He knows his play did not justify the money he’s making, and that the new regime is not afraid to part ways with underachievers. Again, he knows how many offers he got from other teams when he was a free agent.
The Raiders should take one on the chin and cut Kelly, though. They have four 3-tech DTs on the roster, and he’s due to make $14 million in 2013 and 2014.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:11 am
Q is just fine in that role..
February 21st, 2012 at 11:11 am
DMAC Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 11:09 am
I know I’m in the minority, but I want to see Q back. He’s a solid back-up LB who can play the run good and play special teams.
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Likewise. Quentin would be a good fit in the new defensive system. Good locker room guy, too.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:11 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 11:10 am
Average numbers don’t mean much brother, I am talking about actual cap hits, which from everything I can see is $5.6 million. Either way, cut him or keep him the cap hit is about the same, I would prefer to pay him to play as opposed to paying him to play somewhere else.
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Huff will restructure. He’s not going to get even half of what the Raiders are paying him on the open market. He knows his play did not justify the money he’s making, and that the new regime is not afraid to part ways with underachievers. Again, he knows how many offers he got from other teams when he was a free agent.
The Raiders should take one on the chin and cut Kelly, though. They have four 3-tech DTs on the roster, and he’s due to make $14 million in 2013 and 2014.
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Bingo!
Cut Kelly and sign Soali
February 21st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Groves could be a backup SLB, or situational 3-4 edge rusher. Great special teams player, too.
Was never a good fit as a WLB in Al’s system.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:15 am
Even if we used guys like Sam Williams, Bruce Davis II Travis Goethel (healthy?) & Ricky Brown to replace McClain & Blackstock we’d be fine
Even if we used Matt Giordano to replace Huff we’d be fine.
Even if we used Quinton Groves, Jarvis Moss or Trevor Scott (as 3-4 OLB) to replace Wimbley we’d be fine.
Even if we used Bryant to replace Kelly we’d be fine.
the offense CARRIED the defense the past two seasons. I don’t expect that to happen in 2012 – even if these 4 starters are gone.
heck, throw Branch in there too. I aint gonna tag him or pay him Top 5 safety money
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I don’t agree. Sorry dude, no way you can convince me we will be ‘fine’ taking HUGE cap hits and replacing these players with scrubs. You can’t do it.
If you want to tell me you are cutting all those guys and replacing them with scrubs is a necessary purge, and we will have to deal with a year or 2 of 4-12 land again, while I wont agree with that right I will see validity in your point.
I am NOT buying the crazy purge AND winning the west in the same year. No way you can sell me that.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:15 am
Kellys gonzo, bush is gonzo. Huff and romac are basicly stuck because of their deals.. And wimbley is a tuff decsion too. he wont be a big savings to cut..
February 21st, 2012 at 11:17 am
Curry needs to fix his deal.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:22 am
I don’t agree. Sorry dude, no way you can convince me we will be ‘fine’ taking HUGE cap hits and replacing these players with scrubs. You can’t do it.
If you want to tell me you are cutting all those guys and replacing them with scrubs is a necessary purge, and we will have to deal with a year or 2 of 4-12 land again, while I wont agree with that right I will see validity in your point.
I am NOT buying the crazy purge AND winning the west in the same year. No way you can sell me that.
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BCZ,
it’s a tough sell. I know. But thats where I stand
you get me. However, I’m not going to assume that everybody who will come cheap is a scrub. If you assume that the highly paid guys will do better with a different scheme/system and coaches, you gotta assume the same for our depth guys, right?
Reggie has an eye for talent, thats why he was hired as GM, right?
February 21st, 2012 at 11:26 am
yes Reggie has an eye for talent. but so far theres only one guy that Reggie has picked. the rest are guys someone else picked !
February 21st, 2012 at 11:33 am
I guess its a wait and see game rock.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:34 am
yes Reggie has an eye for talent. but so far theres only one guy that Reggie has picked. the rest are guys someone else picked !
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Mike,
it’s gonna take time. I realize that. and some of these cats may become “Reggie’s guys” like Seymour if he decides to restructure and saves us money. But thats only good if he plays well enough to deserve that new renegotiated figure
a GM’s guys will be players who play up to thier contracts. It’s hard to examine our defense from a year ago and assume he has any favorites when you roll the film and look at the money these clowns are raking in
February 21st, 2012 at 11:39 am
RR , i am picking up what you are putting down.
i trust that Reggie will make the correct calls for our team and select the correct players to bring this org. back to glory. LONG LIVE RAIDER NATION !!
February 21st, 2012 at 11:41 am
I can see it now.Reggie cleans house,gets rid of any real players we have,fills the team with second rate talent and scrubs,and next year all of you would be here screaming for his head,complaining because we were so close to the div. title and play-offs before he took over.LMFAO
February 21st, 2012 at 11:42 am
I’m stil waiting to hear if Pryor will be allowed to wear his college #2 so I can change the name on my jersey!!
Come on Reg, can he, can he please!
February 21st, 2012 at 11:44 am
Boy I’m I glad some of you aren’t running this team. Rmac has regressed since his rookie year, but to try and trade him at this point doesn’t make since. A good DC can get more out of him because his is a very good player. The Raider just need to scheme that fits the personnel. That is what Allen made focus should be.
With no picks this year, how does anyone think we will perform better with undrafted free-agent and other teams garbage. Some of the player will play better if coached properly. Restructure some of the bigger contracts, don’t send out a firing squad without know what these guys can do with good coaches.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:45 am
LOL LOL LOL .. tell me about it Carl. think of the money we can save with just a name plate change. wont have to go buy another jersey. but to tell the truth i dont know if i can handle seeing #2 play q.b. for the Raiders ever again !!
February 21st, 2012 at 11:49 am
I WILL GIVE THE ROSTER A YEAR UNDER THE NEW REGIME.I HAVE MY DOUBTS ABOUT SOME,BUT I WILL LET THEM PLAY THERE WAY ON THIS TEAM GOING 4WARD.LET MCKENZIE & ALLEN KEEP / CUT AS THEY SEE FIT..
February 21st, 2012 at 11:51 am
I guess its a wait and see game rock.
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BCZ:
Yup, and I dont think either of us have Reggie pegged. He hasn’t been here long enough for us to know what to expect from him. I’m guessing somewhere in between. I dont think any guys are safe just because Al Davis gave them ridiculous contracts. At the same time, it’s hard to imagine rolling with DVD & Chekwa at corner … somebody will be brought in besides undrafted rookies to compete for the starting corner gigs (and others)
February 21st, 2012 at 11:55 am
I bet we’ll end up with more undrafted guys than anyone else this year, which is okay by me. If you get enough of them you’re bound to find a diamond in the rough.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:56 am
I can see it now.Reggie cleans house,gets rid of any real players we have,fills the team with second rate talent and scrubs,and next year all of you would be here screaming for his head,complaining because we were so close to the div. title and play-offs before he took over.
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Lefty,
go ahead and print my comments here. If it shakes down the way I think it should (which would NOT be popular in here!) and I complain about it, I’ll ship you a JaMarcus Russell tshirt I still got in the closet
according to Debo, thats gonna be worth money some day!
February 21st, 2012 at 11:57 am
raiderjhawk Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 11:55 am
I bet we’ll end up with more undrafted guys than anyone else this year, which is okay by me. If you get enough of them you’re bound to find a diamond in the rough
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Shoddy logic. You roll with say 15-18 UDFA’s on your roster and find one diamond, that still leaves 14-17 crappy players.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:58 am
RR. the only money that t-shirt is worth is the money you make washing cars with it !!
February 21st, 2012 at 11:58 am
LET MCKENZIE & ALLEN KEEP / CUT AS THEY SEE FIT..
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Dirt Lot,
you don’t want to be GM for a day?
darn it! I had you on the schedule for Thursday …
February 21st, 2012 at 11:59 am
80.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 11:49 am
I WILL GIVE THE ROSTER A YEAR UNDER THE NEW REGIME.I HAVE MY DOUBTS ABOUT SOME,BUT I WILL LET THEM PLAY THERE WAY ON THIS TEAM GOING 4WARD.LET MCKENZIE & ALLEN KEEP / CUT AS THEY SEE FIT..
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100% agree.
This year, you evaluate EFFORT. If guys were out there and not giving effort, let them go somewhere else.
If a guy was out of position or appeared to be not well coached evaluate them this year and see if good coaching can improve on field play.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 11:45 am
LOL LOL LOL .. tell me about it Carl. think of the money we can save with just a name plate change. wont have to go buy another jersey. but to tell the truth i dont know if i can handle seeing #2 play q.b. for the Raiders ever again !!
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Mike, just found this on Ebay. I’m thinking of purchasing one for my Nnamdi jersey and turning it to Cliff Branch.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NFL-Custom-Personalized-Football-Jersey-Name-Plate-Kit-Any-Name-Any-Team-/280823683347?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item4162655913
February 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I watch every game,usually 2 or 3 times,and I don’t see this lack of effort from all the players everyone alludes to.I saw more confusion and lack of coaching than lack of effort.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
the only money that t-shirt is worth is the money you make washing cars with it !!
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LOL!
good one Mike.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
hell, that will work DMAC !!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
hell, that will work DMAC !!
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You purchase one first and tell how it turns out.
lol
February 21st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
stupid…people in here are ok with losing…
February 21st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
89.lefty12 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I watch every game,usually 2 or 3 times,and I don’t see this lack of effort from all the players everyone alludes to.I saw more confusion and lack of coaching than lack of effort.
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That’s kind of my point. the defense was so poorly coached that I think it would be a mistake to get rid of player that fans think are making too much money. That is for Reggie a Denise to figure out when they look at game film. I think letting Routt go was a good idea because he clearly played horrible and I think the CB position may be one of the easiest to evaluate.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
lol lol .. dont need to DMAC, my mother is a seamstress and hooks me up with all that kinda stuff.
none of that iron on stuff either !!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I think letting Routt go was a good idea because he clearly played horrible and I think the CB position may be one of the easiest to evaluate.
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Routt was dismissed because he wouldn’t accept responsibility for his own actions.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
lol lol .. dont need to DMAC, my mother is a seamstress and hooks me up with all that kinda stuff.
none of that iron on stuff either !!
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Ok
So I’ll purchase my name plate and then send it your way w/ my jersey.
Can moms hook it up for me 2? (we’re bros.)
lol
February 21st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
dvd and chekwa better man the eff up…
February 21st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
That’s kind of my point. the defense was so poorly coached that I think it would be a mistake to get rid of player that fans think are making too much money. That is for Reggie a Denise to figure out when they look at game film. I think letting Routt go was a good idea because he clearly played horrible and I think the CB position may be one of the easiest to evaluate.
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5150,
Routt had a bunch of interest from teams after we cut him and he got a nice contract from KC
can we expect the same if we axed Kelly, Wimbley, Huff & McClain?
Sure. So what makes these knuckleheads deserve another shot with legit coaching, but not Stan?
February 21st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Huff all butt hurt over Routt! !! Lol ….
February 21st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
olinesux Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
dvd and chekwa better man the eff up…
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Or zone.. whatever’s called
February 21st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I really hope our strength and conditioning coach can really beef up DVD, every pic see of him he is getting stiff armed and I know a lot yous know what bi am taking about.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
no problem DMAC !! LOL LOL LOL
but it looks like those things would work, and the Raiders dont retire numbers so you could just keep “re-nameing” for years !! lol lol lol
only one it wont work for is jim otto 00.not because we retired it . the league did !!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Routt was dismissed because he wouldn’t accept responsibility for his own actions.
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BCZ:
add Hue Jackson to that sentence.
Rolando McClain should be next if thats all it takes to land on Reggie’s naughty list!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Routt was a solid corner….I don’t know why everyone only remembers the penalties and the last thing they saw from him (his bad game against the Chargers). Dude balled hard out there. It’s damn near impossible to play corner the way the Raiders played corner with today’s rules especially. He was let go strictly due to financial reasons. It would’ve been nice if we didn’t pay dude out the a$$ last year and we could’ve kept him for much cheaper…..
February 21st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Huff all butt hurt over Routt! !! Lol
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ray, of course he is.
when Stan Routt was here, he had the worst (most undeserving) contract in the secondary. now Huff does!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Routt was a solid corner….I don’t know why everyone only remembers the penalties and the last thing they saw from him (his bad game against the Chargers). Dude balled hard out there. It’s damn near impossible to play corner the way the Raiders played corner with today’s rules especially. He was let go strictly due to financial reasons. It would’ve been nice if we didn’t pay dude out the a$$ last year and we could’ve kept him for much cheaper…..
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agreed. plus it sounded like they approached him about a restructure and he said no thanks.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
He was let go strictly due to financial reasons. It would’ve been nice if we didn’t pay dude out the a$$ last year and we could’ve kept him for much cheaper…..
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Agreed with Bleeder.
When Al Davis gave Stan Routt that monster contract last year, he terminated his employment with the Raiders in 2012
February 21st, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Our strength and conditioning coaches got a tough job lined up in front of ‘em…More so than rehabbing our boy’s bodies, they gotta find a way to make their hearts stronger! DVD and Chekwa didn’t even hardly step on the field crying hurt all year. That goes for Taiwan Jones too!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Lefty12 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I watch every game,usually 2 or 3 times,and I don’t see this lack of effort from all the players everyone alludes to.I saw more confusion and lack of coaching than lack of effort.
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Yep, Particularly on the back end of the defense. Pass Defense.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I don’t think it’s lack of effort so much as lack of discipline and accountability.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
105.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Routt was a solid corner….I don’t know why everyone only remembers the penalties and the last thing they saw from him (his bad game against the Chargers). Dude balled hard out there. It’s damn near impossible to play corner the way the Raiders played corner with today’s rules especially. He was let go strictly due to financial reasons. It would’ve been nice if we didn’t pay dude out the a$$ last year and we could’ve kept him for much cheaper…..
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Solid corner? In what universe?
And “solid” corners should not be near the top in pay scale, which puts the player in the crosshairs if they do not perform up to the money.
This entire Routt thing is part Al’s fault for his horrible contract, and part his own fault for dry humping WRs while the ball is in the air, or getting burned for TDs at an alarming rate.
The guy is not a good football player. We should all be happy that KC weakened its secondary by signing him and wasted cap space on him (even though they have $600000trillion in cap space).
Which brings to mind another topic…..Amazing how we are almost always top 3 or 5 in payroll and never near the top in wins since 2002.
This transition to a new GM might be painful, but is completely necessary. It took years to make this mess, it might take a couple for a REAL GM to untangle.
Hope Reggie is up to the job. Al sure as hell wasn’t.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Too many times, that Pass Defense, looked flat out lost.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
When Al Davis selected Routt (out of Houston) with the 38th overall pick in 2005 … he was labeled a “track guy”
At the 2005 NFL Scouting Combine, Routt ran the fastest 40 yard dash at a time of 4.27 seconds, breaking the combine record of Deion Sanders
Raider fans griped about him being a reach and a classic Al Davis player.
Al Davis made Stan Routt and Al Davis paid Stan Routt
if not for Big Al, Routt probably would have been a 4th or 5th round selection and out of the league by now
February 21st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I don’t think it’s lack of effort so much as lack of discipline and accountability.
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Bingo, YA!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Amazing how we are almost always top 3 or 5 in payroll and never near the top in wins since 2002.
This transition to a new GM might be painful, but is completely necessary. It took years to make this mess, it might take a couple for a REAL GM to untangle.
Hope Reggie is up to the job. Al sure as hell wasn’t.
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Just Gut, Baby!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Wells might be a decent pick up at C, especially if he comes cheaper than Samson.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DD,
Scott Wells will cost more than Reece, Bryant, Satele & Giordano combined in free agency …
February 21st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Usually the teams near the bottom of the Win column are at the top of the Salary column..
Those high 1st rounders arent cheap guys.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DD,
Scott Wells will cost more than Reece, Bryant, Satele & Giordano combined in free agency …
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Possibly. Supply & Demand will dictate that.
PS. Dont mention Giordano when talking actual FAs please.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RRS #114 nice post!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Those high 1st rounders arent cheap guys.
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DD,
they’ve gotten a whole lot better with the new rookie pay scale!
February 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/sources-raiders-could-continue-roster-purge
February 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Dont mention Giordano when talking actual FAs please
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DD,
why? did he get tagged?
February 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Those high 1st rounders arent cheap guys.
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DD,
they’ve gotten a whole lot better with the new rookie pay scale!
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Too little too late for teams like ours though..
February 21st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Dont mention Giordano when talking actual FAs please
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DD,
why? did he get tagged?
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lol.. jerk.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
YA,
nice link to Adam Caplan. thanks
we’re STILL $11 mil over the cap after the release of Stan Routt ???
February 21st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
“Routt would have been a 4th or 5th rd selection and out of the league by now”-That’s why he just got a nice new contract by KC.After next year when Routt isn’t getting flagged every play because he isn’t wearing a Raider uniform you guy will be moaning about why didn’t he play like that for us.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
we’re STILL $11 mil over the cap after the release of Stan Routt ???
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Do you read the stuff I type, or do you just pick out the first point you want to argue and go from there?
February 21st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Too little too late for teams like ours though
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DD,
former 1st rounders still with Oakland:
Sebastian Janikowski (2000)
Michael Huff (2006)
Darren McFadden (2008)
Darrius Heyward-Bey (2009)
Rolando McClain (2010)
February 21st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
BCZ,
I was responding to the article Adam Caplan wrote TODAY! that YA just put out there.
If you know the answer to my question, feel free to respond.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Too little too late for teams like ours though
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DD,
former 1st rounders still with Oakland:
Sebastian Janikowski (2000)
Michael Huff (2006)
Darren McFadden (2008)
Darrius Heyward-Bey (2009)
Rolando McClain (2010)
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What are you saying?
I dont know if you understood what I said..
February 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
128.lefty12 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
“Routt would have been a 4th or 5th rd selection and out of the league by now”-That’s why he just got a nice new contract by KC.After next year when Routt isn’t getting flagged every play because he isn’t wearing a Raider uniform you guy will be moaning about why didn’t he play like that for us.
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I saw maybe a couple of calls that were questionable against Routt….the vast majority were legit.
And all of the easy TDs he allowed were legit lol.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
That’s why he just got a nice new contract by KC.After next year when Routt isn’t getting flagged every play because he isn’t wearing a Raider uniform you guy will be moaning about why didn’t he play like that for us.
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Lefty,
you’re such a negative nancy, aren’t you?
typical Al Davis Raider hater
February 21st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
What are you saying?
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DD,
that its pretty sad we only have 5 first round players on our team from the previous 12 drafts!
and a bunch of people want to cut Huff & trade DMAC, LOL
February 21st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Pretty much you will see some people in here defending Routt…..but not because Routt was good, it was because so many of them tried to fool themselves into believing that letting Nnamdi go and keeping Routt was a smart move.
lmao
February 21st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
letting Nnamdi go and keeping Routt was a smart move.
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speaking of!
anybody seen ROG lately?
February 21st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
131.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
BCZ,
I was responding to the article Adam Caplan wrote TODAY! that YA just put out there.
If you know the answer to my question, feel free to respond.
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I told you this morning, and throughout our discussions that we are still 11 mill over the cap.
February 21st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
What are you saying?
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DD,
that its pretty sad we only have 5 first round players on our team from the previous 12 drafts!
and a bunch of people want to cut Huff & trade DMAC, LOL
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Oh, ok. Yeah, Agreed..
February 21st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I told you this morning, and throughout our discussions that we are still 11 mill over the cap
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Oh, ok.
what was the number before Routt was escorted out?
$16 million ???
February 21st, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Will Routt equal Gibril Wilson 2.0?
February 21st, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Jason Campbell can’t even close a wedding and some of you thought he could win us a Super bowl?
lol
February 21st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
136.Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Pretty much you will see some people in here defending Routt…..but not because Routt was good, it was because so many of them tried to fool themselves into believing that letting Nnamdi go and keeping Routt was a smart move.
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I defended Routt, but I was never deluded enough to think he was better than Nnamdi, or that it was a good idea to retain him over Nnamdi. I also never agreed with what he was paid. We should have given Nnamdi his contract and paid Routt CJ37’s contract.
That said, I don’t think our defense would have been any better last year.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Will Routt equal Gibril Wilson 2.0?
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@Dutch
Tyvon Branch = Gibril Wilson
ya heard?
just like I said Mike Mitchell = Derrick Gibson …
February 21st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Of course we should’ve offered that bread to Nnamdi instead of Routt, but Routt actually played well for us and for awhile was at the top of the list for passes completed against last season (with the lowest obviously ranked the highest). And the fact throughout all the penalties and his rare bad games (he did not have a lot of bad games last year), that he still made sure he made it to the field every Sunday counts a lot. Can’t wait to see DVD and Chekwa’s name on the injury report next year every week! Huff was the overpaid guy who we should’ve cut.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Oh, ok.
what was the number before Routt was escorted out?
$16 million ???
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Appears that way, since Routt is the only transaction we show on NFL.com that would count towards the cap.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I just hope we offer my boy Bush a decent number (not too high but not disrespectfully low) to see if he’s gonna walk or not, so we can get to wheelin’ and dealin’, and make a decision on trading DMC or not…
February 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Routts performance over the last 5 games of the season is what sticks out in everyones heads. It was downright AWFUL. The first 11 games he played above average. He couldn’t defend a damn slant to save his life though.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
147.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I just hope we offer my boy Bush a decent number (not too high but not disrespectfully low) to see if he’s gonna walk or not, so we can get to wheelin’ and dealin’, and make a decision on trading DMC or not…
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Dmac will be here in 2012 Bush will not.
Carve it in stone.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
137.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
letting Nnamdi go and keeping Routt was a smart move.
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speaking of!
anybody seen ROG lately?
He was here on Friday…late afternoon I guess
February 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Branch = Future All Pro.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/jason-campbell-and-fiancee-jenny-montes-call-off-wedding–just-hours-before-ceremony/2012/02/21/gIQAeGVXRR_blog.html
Jason Campbell can’t even close a wedding and some of you thought he could win us a Super bowl?
LOL!
good one, Dakota
February 21st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Sign Brady Quinn as the backup!
ND BABY!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Branch = Future All Pro.
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did he sign with the Ravens or Steelers?
February 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
147.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I just hope we offer my boy Bush a decent number (not too high but not disrespectfully low) to see if he’s gonna walk or not, so we can get to wheelin’ and dealin’, and make a decision on trading DMC or not…
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Dmac will be here in 2012 Bush will not.
Carve it in stone.
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not so sure about that, and don’t understand your logic if you think thats automatic….but am anxious to find out.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
151.DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Branch = Future All Pro.
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More likely scenario:
Branch = 2012 version of Routt….one decent year, big contract and a big letdown.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
I thought JCamp was dating Mercedes Lindsay ???
February 21st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Tebow = The Great White Hype
It’s Taboo to talk about a white player benefiting from his race like Tebow, but it’s acceptable to say it about J Lin.
Espn said part of the reason Lin has so much hype is his ethnicity (being Asian).
You People……
February 21st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dakota,
Branch had a decent “contract year” like Asomugha, Routt & Huff
he’s gonna want the big bucks and he knows Al Davis would have given it to him.
Hopefully Reggie is smarter than that!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
151.DennisAllensVisor Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Branch = Future All Pro.
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More likely scenario:
Branch = 2012 version of Routt….one decent year, big contract and a big letdown.
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Cool story.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
I’m not sure that Routt will every be considered a TOP 5 CB in this league. If he hit’s the TOP Ten, I would be suprised.
It’s not true that he would have been a 4th or 5th rounder. He was projected to go in the 3rd, but with the combine showing he jumped up on some of the draft boards. Running a 4.27 he would not have lasted through round 3. Fabian washington was projected as 1st round and Routt did turn out to be better that him.
I agree the contract he signed with Al is what got him pushed out of the door. Had he been a 2 to 3 million guy, he would still be on the roster.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Either offer Branch a decent contract for an AVERAGE SS, or franchise him for next season to see if the new coaching staff can make something out of him.
At first I didn’t think franchising him was the right move, but since we have so many other holes to fill it probably wouldn’t hurt to keep him one more year simply due to his youth. Maybe he can come around. We just do not have enough assets to replace everyone who needs replacing on the defense (my cut them all references are tongue in cheek).
He is worth keeping around one more year to see if he improves with the new staff….but otherwise, he can kick rocks if he wants to be paid like the real safeties in the NFL. He is nowhere near an elite NFL safety, and the new regime will not pay him like one if his performance doesn’t justify it.
But a 1 year franchise would be okay only because we can’t afford another hole to fill.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Maybe he can come around.. lol.. *thumbs up*
February 21st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Branch has had a couple good seasons. Even played well after coming back from injury his rookie year. 2010 was terrible for him, though.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Dakota Says:
He is worth keeping around one more year to see if he improves with the new staff….but otherwise, he can kick rocks if he wants to be paid like the real safeties in the NFL. He is nowhere near an elite NFL safety, and the new regime will not pay him like one if his performance doesn’t justify it.
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With the “Raider way” of playing defense, especially considering the strain it put on our safeties, there was literally no way to judge if a player was elite on the back-end of our defensive backfield. In saying this, a franchise tag would be smart though, but lets not say dude is nowhere near an elite NFL safety. We truthfully don’t know that. He’s a lot better than you’re giving him credit.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I want ESPN to say the same things about Tebow as they do Lin.
They should say that part of the hype is due to his ethnicity/ race.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Why is it acceptable to say it about Lin but not Tebow?
February 21st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
164.YoungAmerican Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Branch has had a couple good seasons. Even played well after coming back from injury his rookie year. 2010 was terrible for him, though.
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Why, because he has high tackle numbers? How many times is there a TD caught in the end zone and you see Branch near the play looking confused?
I have seen it time and time again over the course of his career.
Let someone else overpay an average player for once.
If he comes in under the franchise tag in 2012 and starts making plays on the ball, and starts making tackles within 5 years of the LOS under the new coaching staff, then great! Sign him up!
But to give him a big contract based on what he has done thus far would be a mistake. There are a bunch of SS who can make tackles 10 yards down field and who can look just as confused as Branch while watching opponents catch TDs, but they can do it for a much lower price.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Tebow’s hype is about something worse than race,its about religion.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:27 pm
here we go.. start talking about race and religion. soon hardline will show up and krappy kell will be e-mailing corkran. havent we learned anything from the past !!!!! lol lol lol
February 21st, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Lefty,
A lot of players worship god as much as Tebow (if not more), but they don’t get the same hype. It’s acceptable / normal for players to talk/ thank God in sports. ESPN was talking about Lin (Linmania), and they said part of the hype was do to his ethnicity / race.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Sorry,Mike.BTW,you forgot Alias.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Branchs’ best attribute is actually as a kick returner. Make him do that in 2012 too.
We have been bad so long that somehow a premium is put on average players simply because they don’t suck as bad as the last guy.
I am confident that Reggie is not going to fall into that trap.
I am not saying Branch is a bad player, just an average one thus far, and there is no need to overpay him in fear of losing him.
The franchise tag for a safety isn’t that high according to some of you semi-pros, so that would be okay for one year. If he doesn’t pan out, then hopefully be then some of our cap issues will have cleared up and hopefully we don’t trade the 2013 draft to get a pick or two in the 2012 draft, and then we can look to replace him if he is still just an average Safety who doesn’t make big plays and who does little near the LOS to stop the run.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
R8ER,
There is a difference between talking about a real issue in sports, and trying to insult people.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Tebow took a 1-4 team to the 2nd round of the playoffs.
If he took a 1-4 team to 6-10, nobody would talk about him.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
O,
I don’t think Jon Becker & Steve Corkran appreciate all your pleas to discuss racism on the comments section of thier blog …
February 21st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Tebow had a lot of Hype before he did anything in the NFL.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
166.Raider O Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I want ESPN to say the same things about Tebow as they do Lin.
They should say that part of the hype is due to his ethnicity/ race.
Funny thing about this is Tebow is part Filipino, is he not? I know his parents were Missionaries there in the PI!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
I love that the Broncos are forced to keep Teblow on the team at least one more season. That is a good thing for us and the rest of the AFC West. The dude is a very bad QB.
It was great that the Steelers lost so many players going into that playoff game and during that game so that he won. Elway is forced to keep him around.
I love it.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
With the Raiders essentially playing a single deep safety more than half the time in the past half century; it’s almost impossible for our deep safety to make big plays near the LOS unless both our corners are playing outstanding. I’d bet Branch in a different system is gonna show the flashes of brilliance we saw from time to time a lot more often now. Agreed though, franchise him and lets make him prove it.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
We have been bad so long that somehow a premium is put on average players simply because they don’t suck as bad as the last guy.
I am confident that Reggie is not going to fall into that trap.
I am not saying Branch is a bad player, just an average one thus far, and there is no need to overpay him in fear of losing him.
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Dakota nailed it.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I love that the Broncos are forced to keep Teblow on the team at least one more season. That is a good thing for us and the rest of the AFC West. The dude is a very bad QB.
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Dakota,
I’d rather face Orton or Quinn!
maybe they’ll win the Peyton Manning sweepstakes and we can end his career ??
February 21st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RR,
My comments are not racist. People can talk about a lot of issues in this blog.
You sure do have a lot of time to worry about Bcz’s feelings, What Steve likes in his blog, so I suggest you get a hobby and stop wasting your employers time.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Now it looks like Quinn is trying to escape Denver the way he is thrashing the messiah and saying they were lucky.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Hwnrdr,
I don’t know.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
180.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
With the Raiders essentially playing a single deep safety more than half the time in the past half century; it’s almost impossible for our deep safety to make big plays near the LOS unless both our corners are playing outstanding. I’d bet Branch in a different system is gonna show the flashes of brilliance we saw from time to time a lot more often now. Agreed though, franchise him and lets make him prove it.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but generally it is the FS, not the SS in deep coverage. And once Al was gone, didn’t we see some changes from that? But I don’t remember seeing Branch killing people near the LOS after Al died.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Comment From ds
carson palmer 30 picks in his last 19 starts with 8 returned for touch downs, where is the evidence that suggest he is going to be better next season?
1:38
Steve Corkran:
He will know the receivers and the offense a heck of a lot better than he did last season. Also, he has the added incentive of wanting to validate the Raiders giving up so much to acquire him from the Bengals.
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LOL translation
there is no actaul evidence to support that assumption, only hopes and wishes of fans and bloggers (including steve that tried to sell us on cp as an upgrade when he signed)
February 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I really don’t think Tebow hype is about race. His Hype is based on the fact that he was projected to be a 2 or 3 round draft pick, but was drafted in the first. He actually won like 6 or 7 games in dramatic fashion. I think anyone regardless of race would have been hyped up. If anything, it’s his religious beliefs that put the extra hype in the Tebow story.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
180.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
With the Raiders essentially playing a single deep safety more than half the time in the past half century; it’s almost impossible for our deep safety to make big plays near the LOS unless both our corners are playing outstanding. I’d bet Branch in a different system is gonna show the flashes of brilliance we saw from time to time a lot more often now. Agreed though, franchise him and lets make him prove it.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but generally it is the FS, not the SS in deep coverage. And once Al was gone, didn’t we see some changes from that? But I don’t remember seeing Branch killing people near the LOS after Al died.
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More often than not, we played Branch like a FS…..with the rest of the defensive backfield in man to man…
February 21st, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I suggest you get a hobby
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O,
my new hobby is to police the blog … and you’re corrupting it with your filth!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Giordano and Branch took turns playing deep man
February 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Giordano and Branch took turns playing deep man
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and unfortunately, that’s why Giordano looked lost a lot of the times he got burned ’cause our system, lack of communication and constant rotation of those duties was wack
February 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
189.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
More often than not, we played Branch like a FS…..with the rest of the defensive backfield in man to man…
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I’ll take your word for it. Just thought the single deep safety excuse trademarked by the Huff enthusiasts as to why he sucks. Guess it can be used by all the safeties lol.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:43 pm
… and you’re corrupting it with your filth!
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For once we actually agree 100% on something.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Filth = RR’s work ethic
February 21st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Huff just sucks ’cause he does…he doesn’t excel in coverage, tackling, or free-roaming playmaking…..Thats why I say he should’ve got the axe instead of Routt
February 21st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Tebow is a White QB in the NFL
Lin is an asian point gaurd in the NBA
Where is the comparison???
February 21st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Just thought the single deep safety excuse trademarked by the Huff enthusiasts as to why he sucks. Guess it can be used by all the safeties
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LOL!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain,
So what happened this weekend? Did Jason Cambell leave his fiance at the atler for you? Just wondering….not that there is anything wrong with that or whatever, you know….just whatever!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Lefty12 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Tebow’s hype is about something worse than race,its about religion.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If it was filth, then why did you respond and comment on the subject?
February 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Dakota. are you saying that Jason Campbell left a tight end at the alter to go after a wide receiver??
February 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Delusional = Raider O’s plan for the 2012 Raiders
See how I can avoid controversial topics like politics, racism & religion?
February 21st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain,
So what happened this weekend? Did Jason Cambell leave his fiance at the atler for you? Just wondering….not that there is anything wrong with that or whatever, you know….just whatever!
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im not into the gey sub culture the way you are bra.
I cant even post without you mentioning jc, give it a rest
February 21st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
are you saying that Jason Campbell left a tight end at the alter to go after a wide receiver??
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LOL @ Mike!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Campbell isn’t sure he wants to get married?Having a difficult time trying to make a decision?Sounds like when he is playing QB and trying to read a defense.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Come on Reg, can he, can he please!
McRaider5150 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 11:44 am
Boy I’m I glad some of you aren’t running this team. Rmac has regressed since his rookie year, but to try and trade him at this point doesn’t make since. A good DC can get more out of him because his is a very good player. The Raider just need to scheme that fits the personnel. That is what Allen made focus should be.
With no picks this year, how does anyone think we will perform better with undrafted free-agent and other teams garbage. Some of the player will play better if coached properly. Restructure some of the bigger contracts, don’t send out a firing squad without know what these guys can do with good coaches.
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I think last year our players looked worse than they actually were on defense.
Two years ago they looked pretty good a fair amount of the time. A bad coordinator will make his players look bad.
Take the Texans. For years their defense was bottom of the league and holding them back. Magically, in one year a good DC comes in (and even in a shortened season) turns them totally around and suddenly that D has “players”. I think we have some pretty good guys in some things. I think we have a pretty damned good D-Line rotation. I think we think out a lot at LB and even more now in the Secondary. I’m really scared about DVD and Chewy as our CBs. Routt & Aso 2 years ago were a damned good duo. Now we got a couple of developmental speed burners. That’s more what I’d worry about.
February 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
O,
my new hobby is to police the blog …
$$$$$$$$$!
Your hobby is wasting your employers time & resources chatting here. Bad work ethic!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Lin is good not great. The story is great not good.
Lin decent ball handler passer, and can shoot. Plays no defense and turns the ball over a ton.
He is the flavor of the month
February 21st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Ignorant = RR’s posts
February 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Just curious…..Over the years have there been a lot of Raider safeties who were as constricted by the single deep safety problem in Oakland as everyone claims, who then went on to great things after they left Oakland?
Maybe Jarrod Cooper? Stuart Schweigert? Derrick Gibson? Anthony Dorsett? Siddeeq Shabazzzzzz? Jonnie Harris? Eric Johnson maybe?
Anyone?
Anyone?
February 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I like the live chat but the screening of the questions drive me nutz. Always the typical keep it close to the chest Q&A
February 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
No wonder we we are losing jobs here. Why pay someone $9+/ hour to chat all day, when you can pay 1/2 that and still get production?
February 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
205.lefty12 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Campbell isn’t sure he wants to get married?Having a difficult time trying to make a decision?Sounds like when he is playing QB and trying to read a defense.
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Wow, very true.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
In Lin’s case, the fact it’s happening in the media capital of the world that happens to also be a basketball success deprived city makes all the difference too. If it were happening in Milwaukee, we’d be like, so what……
February 21st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
apparently Jason Campbell and his fiance had communication issues. didn’t have chemistry. she questioned his heart & leadership.
Did she play WR for us ???
February 21st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Of course Lin’s ethnicity is playing a part in his 15 minutes of fame….plus his Harvard background (not exactly the birthplace of a bunch of NBA stars), plus his struggle through his first year and a half in the NBA, plus the fact that it is a NY story, plus his success ON THE FLOOR.
The Teblow thing is just weird. The guy can’t throw the ball, the defense wins them some games, but they come back to reality once their defense slows down and yet he still gets Pub like he is some hero. Whatever. All my friends are Bronco fans and they know Teblow isn’t taking them anywhere.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Your hobby is wasting your employers time & resources chatting here. Bad work ethic!
No wonder we we are losing jobs here. Why pay someone $9+/ hour to chat all day, when you can pay 1/2 that and still get production?
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hey O,
lets talk about your personal life, shall we?
wait. is this a sports blog? devoted to the Raiders?
nevermind. not interested
February 21st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Lol
One guy mentions work and suddenly the blog goes dead for a few minutes.
Sheep.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RR,
If you don’t want to make it personal, I suggest you don’t use isults. That usually works.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
LMAO Dakota.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Round ball discussions might also have something to do with it.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
So what is up with getting the Raiders a new Oakland stadium. Doesn’t even appear that Rodger Goodell gives the Raiders any love when it comes to getting other clubs their new stadiums.
W need a new stadium to make more money and to get the players we need. Al said he needed the Fans out their before he died to help, and we sold out all of 2011. That is great sign of the Raider nation coming back tho the O and supporting our team.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
If you don’t want to make it personal, I suggest you don’t use isults. That usually works
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O,
I insulted you?
link? source?
February 21st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Back at you next Tuesday at noon PDT.
So that will be 11 am Pacific Standard Time, which most of us use during February?
I don’t switch to PDT until March 11th.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Stuart shweigert lol , I remember that night mare.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RRS-you pointed out that bringing religion and race into this forum is the equivalent of filth.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Source: post # 190
February 21st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
164.YoungAmerican Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Branch has had a couple good seasons. Even played well after coming back from injury his rookie year. 2010 was terrible for him, though.
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Why, because he has high tackle numbers? How many times is there a TD caught in the end zone and you see Branch near the play looking confused?
I have seen it time and time again over the course of his career.
Let someone else overpay an average player for once.
If he comes in under the franchise tag in 2012 and starts making plays on the ball, and starts making tackles within 5 years of the LOS under the new coaching staff, then great! Sign him up!
But to give him a big contract based on what he has done thus far would be a mistake. There are a bunch of SS who can make tackles 10 yards down field and who can look just as confused as Branch while watching opponents catch TDs, but they can do it for a much lower price.
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Inaccurate assessment.
Agreed that he shouldn’t be franchise tagged. His contract should be in the neighborhood of 3-4 years, $10-$13 million.
Branch excels at many things. Can cover better than any DB on the roster right now. That’s not saying much, but he’s adequate in man coverage, and seemed to be the only player who understood zone concepts as the season went on. He’s a wrap-up tackler who is active in the run game, and a very good blitzer. Considering the new head coach likes to uses his SS as a rusher a lot, Branch will fit in well.
You’d have to point out specific red zone TDs that were against Branch, because to my eyes he was one of the better defenders in the red zone.
More often I saw Routt, McClain, Boyd, and Sheppard get beaten for TDs. Branch seemed to be the only defender who could not only stay with his man, but had enough awareness to realize what what happening elsewhere on the field. For example, his pressure on Schaub was the reason Schaub didn’t walk in for a TD, and instead forced a ball to his receiver which Huff picked off to end the game.
Branch isn’t Polmalu by any means, but he’s a good young player with room to grow, who the Raiders can lock up relatively inexpensively (between $3-$5 million per season, incentives included, should get it done).
Again – Al Davis isn’t here anymore. Time to stop being afraid of players getting handed ridiculous bloated contracts.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
you pointed out that bringing religion and race into this forum is the equivalent of filth.
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Lefty & O,
according to Steve & Jon… IT IS
right?
aren’t those comments the ones they said would be filtered because that stuff is inappropriate here?
I didn’t say that O was a filthy human being. I just said that those comments aren’t welcome here.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
It’s funny how some of you will talk about respect, and then insult posters and their views/ opinions/ etc….
February 21st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
My comments are still posted here and in the prev thread, so I don’t think I posted any filth.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RRS,I said I agree with you earlier,don’t get so defensive.
O,RRS didn’t call your comments ignorant like you did to him.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
211.raidersfreak Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I like the live chat but the screening of the questions drive me nutz. Always the typical keep it close to the chest Q&A
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Cork NEVER posts any of my questions, yet he lets gusys ask the same questions over and over and over again.
How many times was it asked about Branch and Bush and will they get franchise tag?
I asked why Cork was talking about the salary cap being a hindrance NOW when he was adamant it wasn’t a problem on so many other occasions.
Of course that never made it. Instead we got plenty of posts ASKING THE SAME THING about Wimbley.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I understand that the most important part off this off season is the Raider defense. The “O” I can pretty much roll with except the #2 QB. Soup is pretty much gone, Boller will probably not be asked back, Pryor is not ready and may never be.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
I think branch Is too light for ss. Need to move him to fs, huff will prob. Be gone give mm34 another shot at ss and draft depth or address depth in fa. Taylor Mays where you at, just playin.lol
February 21st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Best part is some dude on espn talking about the ‘chink’ in Lin’s armor…1.5 billion people over here haven’t a clue why some people in the USA were insulted by this (myself included actually)
Hillarious.
Bush walks and Bobby Rainey is drafted and becomes Darren Sproles.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Cork has it in for me on a personal level.
February 21st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
The Chinese and the Mexicans will survive the coming apocalypse, not so sure about stupid, spoiled Americans.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
@ 238, indeed, any society that eats dog, horse, donkey, beetles and scorpions has an edge on winning the battle of “survival”…at least on the culinary level.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:05 pm
238.Twocents Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
The Chinese and the Mexicans will survive the coming apocalypse, not so sure about stupid, spoiled Americans.
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Lol watched some show called doomsday preppers on NetGeo or Discovery this weekend. Bunch of fat white people storing food so they can stay fat if civilization ends.
They all want to keep it quiet so their neighbors don’t know about the food and then come take it…..but then they go on a television show and brag about it.
WTF?
February 21st, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Any people that think they are going to survive by living off other peoples money don’t know history.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Dakota, watching television will get you nowhere.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Another dude in Utah had a bomb shelter built in the mountains in case of nuclear war…..but the shelter was like an hour and a half away from his house! What, does he think the Nukes will wait for him to drive up there?
I guess if there was just fallout headed his way or something….
Another dude had fish growing in his backyard pool….in the middle of suburbia….with nothing to stop anyone from jumping his fence and taking his fish lol.
SMH
February 21st, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Didn’t Cork say the starting safeties are Branch and Huff?
But then he added Huff may still go to CB?
If Huff goes to corner, pair Branch with LaRon Landry?
Any non-Madden related opinions on Landry???
Nice and quiet since Sulli got busted for being on altarboy.com…
February 21st, 2012 at 3:12 pm
242.Twocents Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Dakota, watching television will get you nowhere.
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That why I mainly play videogames.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:13 pm
….and comment on this blog.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
I have given up trying to figure out how McKenzie is going to solve this mess he took on, but I believe he will do it.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:19 pm
244.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Didn’t Cork say the starting safeties are Branch and Huff?
But then he added Huff may still go to CB?
If Huff goes to corner, pair Branch with LaRon Landry?
Any non-Madden related opinions on Landry???
Nice and quiet since Sulli got busted for being on altarboy.com…
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At this point Cork is just as clueless as the rest of us about what is going to happen.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I still think that the NFL should publish all of the players’ contract terms on NFL.com.
That would make our little discussions in here so much more interesting!
February 21st, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Dakota,
Figured.
What is certain?
1. Big Mac and DA are in hurry.
2. No one will be franchised tagged.
3. “Outta Whack” contracts to be replaced with FA foootball players.
4. No need to watch the draft until day 2.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
250.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Dakota,
Figured.
What is certain?
1. Big Mac and DA are in hurry.
2. No one will be franchised tagged.
3. “Outta Whack” contracts to be replaced with FA foootball players.
4. No need to watch the draft until day 2.
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5. The uniforms will remain silver and black.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
lefty12 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I watch every game,usually 2 or 3 times,and I don’t see this lack of effort from all the players everyone alludes to.I saw more confusion and lack of coaching than lack of effort.
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Concur. It seemed like Chuck was flailing out there sometimes, and neither he nor Hue knew what to do to fix it.
Bresnehan just seemed to me to be limited in his flexibility and creativity, and I don’t think he put his players in positions to win as much as he tried to fit them into the scheme. The result was bad matchups when it mattered most, and it cost us a playoff berth.
Some of the players on defense are overpaid for their production, agreed. However, if a guy fits what you want to do next season you have to make that part of your evaluation.
I think we have some players on defense that can produce if they’re put in a position to.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
You guys who can still re watch the games, go back and look at the combined play of Gio, and Routt…
Although Gio did make plays, he and Routt had some catastrophic mind melts, at key times….
Not sure which one to lay the blame on however, they were clearly not on the same page.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
We seem to have a lot of players that don’t really like playing football, they would rather be doing something else but the money is good.
On occasion, I play the horses. There are a lot of horses that really don’t want to be in the game.
Horses will do what they are asked but they don’t do it well.
I good horse player learns not to bet money on those that don’t have their heart in it.
February 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
“Concur. It seemed like Chuck was flailing out there sometimes, and neither he nor Hue knew what to do to fix it.
Bresnehan just seemed to me to be limited in his flexibility and creativity, and I don’t think he put his players in positions to win as much as he tried to fit them into the scheme. The result was bad matchups when it mattered most, and it cost us a playoff berth.”
I disagree we are talking about the ancient out of date Al Davis Defense that supposedly anyone could figure out and these are professional athletes.
What I saw was sloppy tackling, missed gaps assignments the inability to shed blocks and bad angles taken by defensive players. I don’t care what scheme you are using if you cant tackle or shed blocks or maintain your gaps you will suck and get your ass beat.
Yes I saw players looking confused at times but they should know their assignment this is not a complex defensive scheme we have been running the last 40 years COME ON MAN!
You cant have it both ways so which is it?
February 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
My proof reading sucks.
February 21st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
the only play-maker we had on defense was Gio…
All the big money guys were not play-makers in my opinion.
The salaries of ALL players on the D was fiscally “out of Whack”…
Non of the guys being paid the vast sums of cash would be considered a play-maker…
February 21st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Edward Teach you do realize that you are saying we have the dumbest players in the league if they cant figure out their assignment in a 40 year old defense.
I am pretty sure Al was running the defense and when he passed in October an already sub par defense got worse because like you said Chukcky B was in over his head so the D lacked leadership but someone has to be a man and step up and lead the D and yet no one did.
February 21st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
SnB666,
That’s not what I’m saying at all. What I’m saying is that they were probably in the wrong defense for the situation half the time, and that’s on Bresnehan and the head coach.
You said it yourself; it’s a 40 year old defensive scheme, and by all accounts relatively easy to attack. If you continue to implement certain things a certain way teams figure it out, and it puts your guy at a disadvantage whether he knows his assignment or not.
February 21st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Thec,
Mind melts indeed…
Too many “gimme” TDs scored with players in the Raiders secondary staring at each other with “I thought you had ‘em” look all over their face…
February 21st, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 3:12 pm
242.Twocents Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Dakota, watching television will get you nowhere.
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That why I mainly play videogames.
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Not a lot of book reading, here? Lol.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Gasol for melo?
Done deal.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
What are these books u speak of kk? Can u smoke them?
February 21st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
We’re going to need that extra practice time. Granted we had scrubs and 3rd stringers manning the back end but we all saw how Oakland went into brain lock too often anytime something other than man coverage got called.
Alot of it was personnel and play defensive play calling IMO but if we do grab two FA CBs I think we’ll be looking alot better even when we do play zone.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
259. Blackbeard!~
February 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
259. Teach says: “If you continue to implement certain things a certain way teams figure it out, and it puts your guy at a disadvantage whether he knows his assignment or not.”
Thats the theory but the reality is showing one front TAKES AWAY THE ADVATAGE QBs have cuz when he sends a man in motion the D adjusts and its advantage QB because the D reveals itself and he can audible.
You show one front, the QB isn’t sure if you’re going to run what he sees or not.
PLUS its a myth that Oakland runs vanilla D. Yes, maybe they play more man but they also play 3-4, 4-3, Nickle, Dime, 5-2, Tampa 2-3, Wolverine ect.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
I love that the Broncos are forced to keep Teblow on the team at least one more season. That is a good thing for us and the rest of the AFC West. The dude is a very bad QB.
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And yet he still beat us.
So what you’re saying is Tebow if very bad, which makes us very very bad?
That hurt..
February 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The best truth of the day, Corky is clueless just like the rest of us. However, worst for him a supposedly “Raider insider.”
I wouldn’t count on Corky making any of his predictions, err, speculations come to fruition. Just another, in the words of Jim Domey, “fish-wrap hack” trying to make a living writing BS for the masses, I guess.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Twocents Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Dakota, watching television will get you nowhere.
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unless you are watching the Travel Channel
February 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Yes, our defense even made teblow look serviceable.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
PLUS its a myth that Oakland runs vanilla D. Yes, maybe they play more man but they also play 3-4, 4-3, Nickle, Dime, 5-2, Tampa 2-3, Wolverine ect.
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No question. We do spend a higher percentage of the time in our base defense than virtually anyone else in the league, however.
That said, the main point of my comment was that we were in the wrong defense for the situation way too often, and that caused some of that “confusion” when the other team’s offense lined up. That’s more on the coaches than the players, and I stand by my statement that we have players on the roster than can be productive if they’re put in a position to do so.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Funny how people here crack on tebow all day, and all he did was post a better season than mr stop gap palmer, and then win a playoff game something palmer has never done. Yet any mention of palmers short comings are immediately met with talk that he is a top 10 or elite qb?
One guy wins, and protects the ball, the other guy looses and coughs up the ball.
The tebow bashers and palmer worshipers are the same crowd.
head scratcher to say the least
February 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Dakota: The franchise tag for a safety isn’t that high according to some of you semi-pros, so that would be okay for one year. If he doesn’t pan out, then hopefully be then some of our cap issues will have cleared up and hopefully we don’t trade the 2013 draft to get a pick or two in the 2012 draft, and then we can look to replace him if he is still just an average Safety who doesn’t make big plays and who does little near the LOS to stop the run.
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But what if he has an all-pro year next year with better coaching and a system that fits him better?
We then have to sign him at a bigger price.
I agree with Cork on this one.. find the money this year, and sign him to a reasonable contract now.
He’s already on just about everyone’s top 50 free agent lists… no sense waiting for him to be on a top 10 list.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
PLUS its a myth that Oakland runs vanilla D. Yes, maybe they play more man but they also play 3-4, 4-3, Nickle, Dime, 5-2, Tampa 2-3, Wolverine ect.
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I don’t remember the Raiders playing any 3-4. All teams play nickel-dime.
2-3? Wolverine?……..If they did, they weren’t very good at it.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
im no tebow fan but i would have taken his season over what palmer delivered, in a heart beat
February 21st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
One guy wins, and protects the ball, the other guy looses and coughs up the ball.
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One guy can pop a balloon from 50 yards out on his second try, the other couldn’t do it from 10 yards with 50 tries.
BTW.. its “loses,” “looses” is not a word.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
im no tebow fan but i would have taken his season over what palmer delivered, in a heart beat
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Do you mean the Tebow or the Broncos defense?
February 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Gdog, signing him to a reasonable contract for an average Ss would be fine. He won’t do that though. Hue’s mouth ran his price up.
Giving him a big contract now based on the little he has done would be a big mistake. If he breaks out next year under a franchise then so be it. Don’t hold your breath.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Gdog Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
One guy wins, and protects the ball, the other guy looses and coughs up the ball.
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One guy can pop a balloon from 50 yards out on his second try, the other couldn’t do it from 10 yards with 50 tries.
BTW.. its “loses,” “looses” is not a word.
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glad we have an english teacher on deck
regardless of balloon popping, football is about protecting the ball and winning
Tebow out played palmer…sad but true
February 21st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
im no tebow fan but i would have taken his season over what palmer delivered, in a heart beat
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Do you mean the Tebow or the Broncos defense?
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I said what i meant dutch,
i would take the season that tebow had over palmers woeful flop job of a season
February 21st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
peace nation, bring in garrard or v y so we can hace a capable back up
February 21st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I was too harsh about television. One must be selective. Avoid the talking heads.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
im no tebow fan but i would have taken his season over what palmer delivered, in a heart beat
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Do you mean the Tebow or the Broncos defense?
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I said what i meant dutch,
i would take the season that tebow had over palmers woeful flop job of a season
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Not sure that Tebow+Raiders Defense=playoffs
February 21st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Edward Teach Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
PLUS its a myth that Oakland runs vanilla D. Yes, maybe they play more man but they also play 3-4, 4-3, Nickle, Dime, 5-2, Tampa 2-3, Wolverine ect.
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I don’t remember the Raiders playing any 3-4. All teams play nickel-dime.
2-3? Wolverine?……..If they did, they weren’t very good at it.
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You don’t know a damn thing about wolverine, KK, so don’t pretend you do.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Funny how people here crack on tebow all day, and all he did was post a better season than mr stop gap palmer, and then win a playoff game something palmer has never done. Yet any mention of palmers short comings are immediately met with talk that he is a top 10 or elite qb?
One guy wins, and protects the ball, the other guy looses and coughs up the ball.
The tebow bashers and palmer worshipers are the same crowd.
head scratcher to say the least
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You snivel above about how JC was brought up, yet every single chance you get to rip on our starting qb, without being provoked, you take it.
All because you are a ra-cist piece of garbage, a lowlife, and a liar.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
271. Reggie don’t.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
You don’t know a damn thing about wolverine, KK, so don’t pretend you do.
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Tell me about it, Troll. How much Wolverine did they play, Troll?
February 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
The Chiefs have $38 million to play with (will sign both Carr and Bowe). Unlike, say, the Steelers, who are still scrambling to eliminate $25 million in cap excesses for 2012.
Source: PFT
And everyone is worried about 11 million….look at the Steelers!!!
February 21st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:34 pm
You snivel above about how JC was brought up, yet every single chance you get to rip on our starting qb, without being provoked, you take it.
All because you are a ra-cist piece of garbage, a lowlife, and a liar.
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Why do you dumbass’s get so personal, everytime you’re disagreed with, on a Football matter?
February 21st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Some guy on this blog wanted Terrell Pryor to wear #2 jersey. I hope he never wears #2 because I haven’t seen a good quarterback in the NFL yet to wear the #2 because it “STINKS”.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
285. Wow, those are some pretty in depth analysees for such a new poster on here Mark Clemens aka Ricochet, RMR wut evah
February 21st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
267.Mark Clemens Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
I love that the Broncos are forced to keep Teblow on the team at least one more season. That is a good thing for us and the rest of the AFC West. The dude is a very bad QB.
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And yet he still beat us.
So what you’re saying is Tebow if very bad, which makes us very very bad?
That hurt..
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Tebow also beat Pittsburgh. Does that make Pittsburgh “very, very bad”.?
February 21st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Pryor sported #2 in college
February 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
260.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Thec,
Mind melts indeed…
Too many “gimme” TDs scored with players in the Raiders secondary staring at each other with “I thought you had ‘em” look all over their face…
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Perfect description.
February 21st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
R8eray Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
The Chiefs have $38 million to play with (will sign both Carr and Bowe). Unlike, say, the Steelers, who are still scrambling to eliminate $25 million in cap excesses for 2012.
Source: PFT
And everyone is worried about 11 million….look at the Steelers!!!
Wait, earlier today, Pitts number was same as ours…at 11 million over…
February 21st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
The “Raider way” of defense?
Dallas at one time had the “Doomsday Defense” and Pittsburgh the “Steel Curtain”. Denver had the “Orange Crush” back in 77-78. Minn.-The “Purple People Eaters”. Eagles had “Gang Green” with Reggie White and Jerome Brown. Bears had the “46″ D.
Have the Raiders EVER had a defense that had a nickname? Or one that deserved a nickname?
Think about it. In all the years the Raiders have been in existence have we EVER, EVER, EVER had a truly dominant defense?
I know we had some good ones with Hendricks, Tatum, Atkinson, and then another time we had Hayes and Haynes at corner but as a team have we EVER had a truly dominant D?
February 21st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
The 11 angry men of 67-69′ google it.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
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regardless of balloon popping, football is about protecting the ball and winning
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I guess if you ignore his 14 fumbles.
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Tebow out played palmer…sad but true
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I dunno… most people that complete 46% of their passes in a season get cut from college teams, let alone the NFL.
I bet he doesn’t start more than a handful of times the rest of his career.
But I am damn glad he is a Bronco! Not sure you would find knowledgeable AFCW rivals saying that about Palmer right now…
February 21st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Remember when Ike Lassiter broke Joe Namath’s jaw?
February 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Yes, “11 Angry Men”, I remember that, just barely.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
HOW OLD R U DJOHNNYG ?
February 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
The 11 angry men of 67-69′ google it.
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Kell’s all over it.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I would argue that the 83 Raiders had a DOMINANT defense. Not just one of the greatest pair of CBs in the league but Millen, Long, Martin, Alzado etal were pretty d@mn good. Held a terrific offense to <10pts in the SupaBo, and managed to allow only a combined total of 24 points in their playoff victories. Held Curt Warner to 26 yrds rushing.
That is dominant.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
The 11 Angry Men were sacking QB’s 60 times per year.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Later Gents.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
You could also include The Soul Patrol, but that was just the secondary.
Cool name, though.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
From the movie “12 Angry Men”, 1957.
Hollywood is always selling a sequel.
Now playing “11 Angry Men II”
February 21st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
My favorite 11 was John Holmes “11 1/2 inches of Gag”. Only in my dreams.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
304.KoolKell Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
The 11 Angry Men were sacking QB’s 60 times per year.
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Yes. I forgot about those guys.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I have never been able to understand Al Davis. In his prime, he was the man. But he never understood that times had changed, other people had advanced the game, but he refused to adapt.
Even Einstein was not wholly satisfied with his theories.
But genius Al never wavered, by god, his theory was the light, and the only path.
His ego made him a moron.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Hello.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Raiders in ‘83 were 4th in the league against the run and 13th against the pass.
13th Total D.
Dominant in the playoffs as mentioned.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
301.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
HOW OLD R U DJOHNNYG ?
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Old enuff to remember the “good ole days”. I actually went to two Raider games in Chicago back in the day.
Saw Kenny Stabler throw a td to Dave Casper and Errol Mann get a kick blocked and returned for a td.
NOT old enuff to have ever seen “11 angry men”, but I have heard of their legend.
February 21st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
I agree I only heard about the 11 angry men, but was old enough to remember all those darn Steeler rivalry! And that darn Rob Lytle fumble…uggghhhh! And yes…that 83 team was dominant on D! I don’t think we was supposed to beat Joe Theisseman and the Hogs, but 38-9 speaks for itself!!!
February 21st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Do you guys think that we could have won back to back titles had that fumble counted? Dallas was pretty good that year…
February 21st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
THAT ROB LYTLE NON CALL MAKES ME SICK 2 THIS DAY..LYLE ALZADO ON THAT ORANGE CRUSH DEFENSE 4 THE BRONCOS.THAT WAS AFTER IMHO THE GREATEST PLAYOFF GAME EVER,RAIDERS VS.COLTS & GHOST TO THE POST..
February 21st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
I agree! I forgot Alzado was there…
February 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
310.Twocents Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I have never been able to understand Al Davis. In his prime, he was the man. But he never understood that times had changed, other people had advanced the game, but he refused to adapt.
Even Einstein was not wholly satisfied with his theories.
But genius Al never wavered, by god, his theory was the light, and the only path.
His ego made him a moron.
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Good post Twocents
February 21st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
But watch it TwoCents, watch what you say about AD. There are censors watching all posters and burdening their speech: parallels to agents of the Inquisition, whose days are spent pitifully declaring that there is no room in this blog for criticism of AD, (what they identify as) race baiting, spewing filth, and trolling. These individuals, wearing wearing a crown of moral superiority, are about as colorful, humorous, and entertaining as a sack full of rusty hammers.
They have ruined this blog.
Much like Senator McCarthy of the red scare days, I suspect these “censors” pop a cork early in the morning, by noon are inebriated and by early evening cannot no longer control themselves.
They report directly to Corky any posts they consider violations and Corky takes action from there.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
314.hwnrdr Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
I agree I only heard about the 11 angry men, but was old enough to remember all those darn Steeler rivalry! And that darn Rob Lytle fumble…uggghhhh! And yes…that 83 team was dominant on D! I don’t think we was supposed to beat Joe Theisseman and the Hogs, but 38-9 speaks for itself!!!
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People might forget, but what made that dominant victory even more special was that Washington..that Washington team, was being touted as perhaps the greatest, most complete team of all time.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Johnny, yep…that is why I think Theisseman has become a hater for life against the Raiders! Wasn’t Philly heavily favored also? And Jaws was intercepted three times, which I believe still stands, by Rod Martin!
February 21st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
BTW: Who the heck is Rhett Bomar?
February 21st, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I guess another guy that never played an NFL down! Oh well…
February 21st, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Twocents Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I have never been able to understand Al Davis. In his prime, he was the man. But he never understood that times had changed, other people had advanced the game, but he refused to adapt.
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There’s a lot of old people, you can’t tell schit.
Especially when they’ve done everything.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RAIDERS DOMINATED SB18 IN EVERY WAY.SCORING ON OFFENSE,DEFENSE AND SPECIAL TEAMS..UNREAL.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Tebow + 2011 Raider Defense = 4-12
Palmer + Bronco Defense = 10-6
Tebow Blows.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
319,Please,youre so full of youreself,and as al.davis and the garbage you spewed,I would have banned youre arse,period.If any ruin the blog,take a good look in the mirror,Hello
February 21st, 2012 at 8:04 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RAIDERS DOMINATED SB18 IN EVERY WAY.SCORING ON OFFENSE,DEFENSE AND SPECIAL TEAMS..UNREAL.
I agree! I was in high school during that game…AWESOME!!!
February 21st, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Djohnnyg,
I was a Raiders, due to my sister’s boyfriend’s influence, by 1967 when Lamonica was QB, and later in 1969 when George Blanda joined the Raiders. I cheered for the Raiders in Superbowl II. If one wasn’t around in that time period, one has no real standing to call themselves a Raider’s fan today. Of course anyone can call themselves anything, but they are “wanna-bes” at best.
The Raiders then possessed an overwhelming will to win. The the players needed little coaching since they were all great. I went to several live games and watched George bring them back to win kicking and playing QB. I saw AD and shivered with fear since rumor had it he belong to the Hells Angeles MC.
In those days you never had nit QBs skipping and dancing back and forth on the line, like Peyton Manning, Brady, etc. The defensive line would rush in grab the QB and drive his head into the ground, exposing the QB to a week’s hospital stay. Any receiver or runner difficult to cover would simply be knocked out, and dragged off the field.
It’s really very simple; smell the fear; smell the blood.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
327.hendu Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
319,Please,youre so full of youreself,and as al.davis and the garbage you spewed,I would have banned youre arse,period.If any ruin the blog,take a good look in the mirror,Hello
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Dude,
Crawl back in the hole from whence you came. At least guys like HayesDaze have to chutpaz to take me on. You, my friend, are about as empowered as a wet noodle, lol.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Hendu, normally I don’t engage in presonal attacks against posters: all are entitled to their opinion, no matter how disgusting that may be.
But you started it.
By the way, you can’t type, you can’t write, you are about as funny as a garden snail, as original as a McDonald’s burger, and as entertaining as Donny Osmond.
Leave this blog to the big boys.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
personal *** attacks
February 21st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
329,youre an idiot,sorry.One doesnt choose a birthdate,Raider Fans today are just as Hungry as I was back then,cant wait for a Party in Jack London Square again,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ok,Mr,Mrs
February 21st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
If one wasn’t around in that time period, one has no real standing to call themselves a Raider’s fan today.
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HAHAHA.
So if you weren’t around to cheer for the Raiders in Super Bowl II, then you can’t be on this BLOG calling yourself a fan. So screw all the kids growing up in the bay area, refusing to root for the 9er’s to whom they were taught to hate, and buying up their Raiders gear and watching the games. They have no real standing to call themselves fans.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
334.Breaking_Black Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:15 pm
If one wasn’t around in that time period, one has no real standing to call themselves a Raider’s fan today.
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Breaking, I am also a 49′er fan, and came up watching John Brodie. I was never, ever taught to hate the 49′ers and was quite dissapointed when they were knocked out of the playoffs this past season.
As to the statement: “So screw all the kids growing up in the bay area, refusing to root for the 9er’s to whom they were taught to hate, and buying up their Raiders gear and watching the games.”
You said that and not me. When did I ever say, “So screw all the kids grwoing up in the bay area” ??
Maybe those kids will finally be able to witness dynasty, after AD ran wild and irrationally for the past 29 seasons.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Hendu, okay, okay, just calm down and forget about it.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Hardline…I do envy guys like you who was around during the late 60’s who was old enough to watch Lamonica, Blanda, etc…I became a fan in 74 with the Snake as our Qb. So, for 37, going on 38 years of my life, I was lying to myself by calling myself a fan? Come on man…In 1974, I watched the A’s beat the Dodgers with Rollie Fingers, Catfish Hunter and Reggie Jackson…never seen their first two, being that I was too young to watch baseball, but that doesn’t mean I can’t call myself a fan…
With all due respect, that sentence in your post was wrong…
February 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
335,softline breaking down,eh?Oh,Niners are JUNK TO real RAIDER Fans,get it Mr/Mrs?
February 21st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Sounds like a bunch of old dudes crying about the hot chick they onced dated 28 years ago.
Unless you own a part of the Team” the “Who is the greatest fan” debate is retarded.
We all atre part of “The Raider Nation”. I’m almost 40, and I barely remember when we beat Philly and Washington. thank goodness for NFL films….
We all can definitely remember the last 9 years of sucking real bad.
The New Regime is refreshing, deliberate, and strategic.
I say we bring in Brady Quinn or David Gerrard to compete for the backup……
February 21st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Hardline Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Breaking, I am also a 49′er fan.
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And you have the gall to say that if I wasn’t born yet in SB II that I am not a real Raiders fan.
Go back to the whiners blog where you belong.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Hwnrdr 337,
Oh yeah Hwnrdr, those Raiders with Stabler were the final distillation of greatness. You are entirely correct. Talk about an unbelievable team: they were it!
February 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
303Raider, #339,
I wish you could have witnessed it! I am hoping it will come again.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
303, I agree and I once stated that me being a fan for almost 40 years doesn’t make me a better fan than the younger guys who only witnessed the bad…in fact, I give them credit. No Championships in as long as hey were fans and still loyal to this team! My hat’s off to them! I wish all of them younger fans could have witnessed the glory years! It was awesome!!!
February 21st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Texguy #340,
Tex, I am both a 49er and Raider fan, same as you.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Hardline Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Hwnrdr 337,
Oh yeah Hwnrdr, those Raiders with Stabler were the final distillation of greatness. You are entirely correct. Talk about an unbelievable team: they were it!
The years before free agency…gotta love those years!
February 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
hwnrdr, #343
I agree with you. It’s tough for the fans since 1983: horrible as a matter of fact.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Hardline Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Hwnrdr 337,
Oh yeah Hwnrdr, those Raiders with Stabler were the final distillation of greatness. You are entirely correct. Talk about an unbelievable team: they were it!
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You two guys are speaking the language of TRUTH…
1976 Raiders, greatest NFL team of all time…
Snake Stabler = GOAT IMO…
February 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
338.hendu Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
335,softline breaking down,eh?Oh,Niners are JUNK TO real RAIDER Fans,get it Mr/Mrs?
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I am a Mr. Hendu. I disagree that the 49′ers are junk to “real” Raiders fans. I am fan of both teams and have been since the later 60s.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Yup…we all had a tease in 2000-2002. Those were good teams but nothing like before! Rule changes have a lot to do with it though!
February 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Thec, what’s up brother?
February 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I only started as a “fan” in 1970… mostly because I liked the Raider shield on my electric football game the best of all logo’s. I do kinda remember the Mad Bomber, but became more of a fan with the Snake and Freddie B… my favorite two players to this day.
But truth be told.. it was Gruden that really made me an addicted fan. Before then, there was no NFL ticket, and the Raiders were on maybe 5 times a year in the midwest, if I were lucky. So I only started watching every game in 1998? or so.
I guess that makes me a “wannabe” also. Damnit.
Sniff.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
You have to give it to alias,he never gives up.LOL
February 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Thec, what’s up brother?
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All is well. whats good with you Bruh?
February 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Gdog, #351,
Sorry Gdog, didn’t mean to lump you in.
Please forgive me, lol.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Gdog, I have to sympathize with you there…growing up in Hawaii, the Raiders were hardly on television! Back in the 70’s and 80’s, NFL in Hawaii was SF, Dallas, and Green Bay! My friends would get mad at me at times because I wouldn’t come out of the house when the Raiders were on tv…but man, those were the days!
February 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Thec Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Thec, what’s up brother?
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All is well. whats good with you Bruh?
Same ol, same ol…waiting for news, any news…are we cutting anyone else, getting under that cap, etc…oh the hardship of the offseason! Good news though, isn’t the combine this week?
February 21st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Same ol, same ol…waiting for news, any news…are we cutting anyone else, getting under that cap, etc…oh the hardship of the offseason! Good news though, isn’t the combine this week?
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I hear ya Bruh. I am just waiting to see our new GM work some miracles with the draft and UDFA’s. I dont expect us to be to active in the FA market…
February 21st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
I think it’s hilarious that everybody agrees the defense sucks, but everybody also agrees none of the starters should be cut or traded!
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Other than losing Asomugha, it was nearly the identicle group we had in 2010 when the defense was respectable. It was respectable in 2009 also.
Al Davis only had one leg in the grave not two those years. He was able to at least get down to the practice field and make some suggestions. We also had a much better DC, far less injuries, and Asomugha.
Fair weather fans have no clue which players are good. They only know how to cry when the team loses and cheer when its winning. The reality is we have a lot of good players on defense.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Gdog, I have to sympathize with you there…growing up in Hawaii, the Raiders were hardly on television! Back in the 70’s and 80’s, NFL in Hawaii was SF, Dallas, and Green Bay! My friends would get mad at me at times because I wouldn’t come out of the house when the Raiders were on tv…but man, those were the days!
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In the midwest we usually got to see both KC/Raiders games, and usually one Denver/Raiders, sometimes both. Plus the national games of course. Growing up, almost all of my friends were Vikings fans because they were on every week (and I have hated the Vikings to this day).
I notice kids now are much more likely to be fans of non-regional teams… sometimes even obscure teams. More games are available! I have a nephew that is a frigging Seahawk fan. Fans of crappy non-regional teams when I was growing up was almost unheard of. I think I like it better the way it is today.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I remember watching with my uncle on TV. Man he hated the Niners, lol…
I remember Al Davis sending Marcus Allen to the bench and then shipping him to KC and he killed us.
I remember Al Davis trading John Gruden, WTF??
I had season tickets from 99- 2004, then moved out to Denver. I still fly out to 2 games a year in The O, the game here vs Donktown, and to Kansas City.
My 7 year old is a Big Raider fan, watches the games with me, my 11 year old cheers for the Devil, I blame his Mom for that one.
It’s time we get this organization back to being “Respected”. I don’t care if we win like we did in the 60’s,70’s, 80’s, etc. I just want to win, whether it’s by breaking passing records or running the ball.
I know we need to fix the defense, penalty issue, and dump some overpaid check cashiers.
Change is welcome, refreshing, and necessary.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:08 pm
348,Mr/Mrs,You are clever with comedy,just admit youre a niner lover and RAIDER Hater,We can move on,mm
February 21st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Change is welcome, refreshing, and necessary.
Amen, 303!
Thec, I agree…will probably have to wait til after the draft to see what he finds in the UDFAs!
February 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Out!
February 21st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
See you in the AM! Peace out and goodnight, Nation!!!
February 21st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Ltr Raiders….1 Naton.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
303Raider Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I remember watching with my uncle on TV. Man he hated the Niners, lol…
I remember Al Davis sending Marcus Allen to the bench and then shipping him to KC and he killed us.
I remember Al Davis trading John Gruden, WTF??
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Hold on a sec. I know we all loved Gruden..heck I loved him…still do, but…Gruden WANTED out. He had been actively pursuing other coaching jobs when Al “traded” him to TB.
Al Davis would have been more nuts than what everyone thinks he was if he didn’t do this deal.
Here’s what Al got in the deal:
-Tampa’s NUMBER 1 pick in 2002
-Tampa’s NUMBER 2 pick in 2001
-Tampa’s NUMBER 1 pick AGAIN in 2003
-Tampa’s NUMBER 2 pick AGAIN in 2003
PLUS…
$8,000,000 in cash.
Al did alot of stuff we can rip him on but how does anyone in their right mind pass on that?
February 21st, 2012 at 9:37 pm
…sorry, i meant # 2 pick in 2002 not 2001.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Here’s what we can rip on Al for…not doing anything with all those picks he got from Tampa. THAT is the true “WTF” in this whole deal.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Should never rip on on a dead person. Bad form.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:01 pm
#358,
The Raider D has been pretty bad for awhile now imo.
2009- 23rd overall 29th against the run. 7th against the pass.(good).
2010-20th overall 29th against the run. 20th against the pass (with Nnamdi)
2011-29th overall 27th against the run. 27th against the pass.
True. The passing game dropped even further without Nnamdi.
With this hard nosed Tarver guy, and a few good acquisitions I think we CAN get to “average”.
That would be awesome.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Notice since Herrera’s been canned, this blog’s been dead?
February 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
I too love the Raiders and the Niners. Grew up with both of them, and love rooting for both of them. Nothing wrong with that. Favorite player of all time is Montana, second favorite is the Snake.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Notice since Herrera’s been canned, this blog’s been dead?
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you would think he would have more time now to spice things up.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:49 pm
He had nothing but time on his hands when he was employed, Weapon. When a front office employee is fighting with reporters in the midst of a 7 year melt down, you know working toward solutions is pretty low on the priority list.
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:18 am
[...] Raiders live chat today at 1 p.m. Join Steve Corkran today at 1 p.m. as he talks Raiders football, including discussions about replacing Stanford Routt. Live chat: Inside the Raiders, Tuesday at 1 p.m…. [...]
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 am
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February 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:47 am
Dakota Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Undrafted free agents and guys released from other teams could play as well as these overpaid, underachievers we have on D!
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It’s kinda crazy that the statement above is true in some ways.
1. Dave Tollefson and Kevin Boothe were cut by us and got playing time with the Giants.
2. Sterling Moore made more impact plays in his brief NE career than Routt in his entire career here. Yes I am exaggerating to some extent but I’m still bitter we cut Moore.
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That says more about the stability and continuity that the Patriots and Giants had in terms of coaching, management. If you recall the Pats had Raiders on their roster up to the first SB run v. the Rams. The had Sale Isaia, a center, Rob Holmberg, a back-up LB, and Je’Rod Cherry, a special teams guy. The Pats cherry picked off the Raiders for quite awhile…i even think the Pats had Lamont Jordan, once we cut him loose, if Im not mistaken.
I just recall Kevin Boothe jogging off the field as Jackie Slater was yelling at him in the Seahawk loss on ESPN MNF during the Art Shell era. Boothe just completely ignored him and jogged to the bench as Slater screamed at him. Moss had a look like “How could this be happening, what am I going to do?”
i mean, they have to get “their guys”, but they have to establish a baseline of performance. Too many players like Routt have been through what? 4 head coaches in 5 years (Shell, Kiffin, Cable, then Jackson, (5 if you count Norv Turner, who was there in Routt’s rookie year)
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 am
The last remaining second-round quarterback on the roster, Chad Henne, becomes a free agent on March 13. Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel (via NFL.com) reports that the team won’t make Henne an offer.
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Looks like we found Palmers back up.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 am
Djohnnyg Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:01 pm
#358,
The Raider D has been pretty bad for awhile now imo.
2009- 23rd overall 29th against the run. 7th against the pass.(good).
2010-20th overall 29th against the run. 20th against the pass (with Nnamdi)
2011-29th overall 27th against the run. 27th against the pass.
True. The passing game dropped even further without Nnamdi.
With this hard nosed Tarver guy, and a few good acquisitions I think we CAN get to “average”.
That would be awesome.
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the key is
1. how much cap space could they clear to get FA’s
2. what existing players could they deal on draft day to get scheme specific players that will transition to the hybrid 3-4/4-3 more easily – like Brett Roy, Sean McClellin of Boise St. or Emmanuel Acho of Texas, Cincy’s DE Derek Wolfe, a corner like Montana’s Trumaine Johnson.
3. what 2nd tier FA’s like Jo-Lonn Dunbar or Wesley Woodyard could be signed that “get it” and hustle to make up for the lack of a big name
4. the FA’s they sign have to be top-notch to build the rest of the role players around – not necessarily Paul Solai, but maybe Abrayo Franklin….not necessarily Mario Williams, but maybe Ahmad Brooks (Niners). Not necessarily Brandon Carr , but maybe Cortland Finnegan or Jacksonville’s William Middleton or both..at a cheaper price.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 am
FYI Herrera wasnt fired.
He retired from his position as senior executive and is expected to continue to be involved with the team in a part time capacity.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 am
HairyBush Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 am
The last remaining second-round quarterback on the roster, Chad Henne, becomes a free agent on March 13. Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel (via NFL.com) reports that the team won’t make Henne an offer.
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Looks like we found Palmers back up.
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More curious about Brady Quinn…think he wouldnt want to stick it to Denver every year for like the rest of his career? But, i digress Henne would be…OK, i guess. Vince Young has the propensity for the comeback, but i’m thinking they’d want insurance in case Pryor doesnt pan out.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:55 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.MR POST-371,PLACE MAY BE A LITTLE SLOW BUT NOT TO SURE IT IS DUE TO HERRERA.IT IS LATE FEBUARY..
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 am
RaiderSam Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 am
HairyBush Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 am
The last remaining second-round quarterback on the roster, Chad Henne, becomes a free agent on March 13. Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel (via NFL.com) reports that the team won’t make Henne an offer.
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Looks like we found Palmers back up.
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More curious about Brady Quinn…think he wouldnt want to stick it to Denver every year for like the rest of his career? But, i digress Henne would be…OK, i guess. Vince Young has the propensity for the comeback, but i’m thinking they’d want insurance in case Pryor doesnt pan out.
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Quinn has potential and possibly a higher ceiling than Henne, but I believe Henne is the safer pick.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 am
TP=gimmick QB in red zone (best case scenario)
No thanks to Vince Young, He would be counter productive to what the the new Raiders brass is trying to acomplish.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 am
Not necessarily Brandon Carr , but maybe Cortland Finnegan
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I like your thinking, but Finnegan will get more money than Carr. Its kind of a tie between Grimes and Finnegan for the top FA CB, but Carr is close.
We won’t be getting any of those guys. If we are lucky we will get one or two 2nd tier FAs, but I think 3rd tier and lower are the guys we will be looking at.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 am
We won’t be getting any of those guys. If we are lucky we will get one or two 2nd tier FAs, but I think 3rd tier and lower are the guys we will be looking at.
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In your opinion, Is it a combonation of lack of money with the Raiders regarding not picking up “name” free agents. As well as Reggie maybe taking another year evaluating the “talent” currently on the roster. Or is it something else? thoughts?
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 am
Get finances in order in 2012 then 2013 spending spree perhaps?
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 am
POST-387-388,I AGREE AND THINK THIS IS CORRECT PATH
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 am
Tom Brady’s long-time quarterback mentor Tom Martinez has passed away at the age of 66.
Martinez, who died of a heart attack, served as Brady’s personal “guru” since Brady was 13. Martinez most recently met with Brady in September, when an “off” Brady summoned him to New England on Labor Day weekend. After meeting with Martinez for three days, Brady went on to shred the Dolphins for 517 yards in Week 1. Martinez coached at California community college powerhouse College of San Mateo from 1974-2005.
RIP! The sad thing is, he died on his birthday!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 am
And in other news…
The Cincinnati Enquirer’s Joe Reedy lists Michael Bush, Mario Manningham, and Robert Meachem as the three free agents most likely to draw an offer from the Bengals.
The team’s top priority is believed to be re-signing FS Reggie Nelson, but the Bengals have the salary cap room to plug holes at running back and wide receiver as well. Profootballtalk’s Gregg Rosenthal astutely pointed out that Bush may have cemented his 2012 role as a complementary back after fading under a heavy workload in the final six weeks of the season.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 am
I THINK TRAINING CAMP WILL SHOW US A LOT ABOUT THE PLAYERS ON THIS TEAM.WHO SHOWS UP IN SHAPE AND READY TO GO,MAYBE A LITTLE EARLY..
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 am
RIP! The sad thing is, he died on his birthday!!!
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It isn’t so sad, I saw a piece on him on 60 minutes and if I remember correctly he should have passed away months ago, maybe even longer. The guy definitely lived for a good period on borrowed time, and his passing didn’t come as a surprise.
RIP to him though.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:50 am
Wow…just another example of a person who told death to step back…It’s not my time! Thanks Bcz…I didn’t know that!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Cut ‘em all!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
What’s your thoughts on Bynum these days, Dakota.
Have you come to your senses yet?
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 am
Here’s the trick though J Hill…can he stay healthy the rest of the season?
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 am
He looks pretty spry to me, Hwn.
I think Kobe wants to win, I doubt he takes out his knee again this year.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 am
Andrew Bynum = Darren McFadden
Million dollar talent, ten cent body
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:32 am
398.J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 am
He looks pretty spry to me, Hwn.
I think Kobe wants to win, I doubt he takes out his knee again this year.
Good one! Key for them this year is consistency! But yes, Kobe is starting to get that look again!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 am
HairyBush Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 am
TP=gimmick QB in red zone (best case scenario) ___________________________________ lol thats what some said about Vick. Once again if newton and tebow are starting QBs in the nfl then TP can too. CP tree trunk is more than likely going down so get ready for the TP show this season.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Interesting Corky’s chat yesterday.
With him and other scribes, getting an invite for a sit down with Reggie, makes you think some of what he says his almost straight from the proverbial horses’ mouth.
So thusfore (according to the chat):
-Bush won’t be franchised, and probably will walk
-Darren will be dangled for a trade, and players in his own lockerroom had some questions on why he couldn’t suit up
-Jason Campbell won’t be offered a contract
-TP will not be the #2
-Wimbley will be asked to restructure or kick rocks
-John Henderson will be waived
-TK is fairly likely to be waived
-DVD is not considered in the mix to be a starter
-Chekwa is
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 am
RaidO Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 am
HairyBush Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 am
TP=gimmick QB in red zone (best case scenario) ___________________________________ lol thats what some said about Vick. Once again if newton and tebow are starting QBs in the nfl then TP can too. CP tree trunk is more than likely going down so get ready for the TP show this season.
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I would love to be wrong, Maybe he will show some flashes during training camp, I won’t set the bar to high though.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 am
Mike Vick and Cam Newton have elite arm talent, Tebow and Pryor do not.
Even with that, Vick has been a major disappointment, is never healthy, and hasn’t won a playoff game in almost 8 years.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 am
Interesting JFB! Unfortunate (or not) I can see that happening!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 am
Hwn,
Blake being out those 3 weeks was HUGE. Cost us at least 3 wins.
I’m more interested in replacing Artest in the starting lineup than anyone else.
I wouldn’t trade Gasoft or Bynum.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:45 am
That’s true!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 am
I didn’t say that O was a filthy human being. I just said that those comments aren’t welcome here.
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I didn’t that RR was a lazy human being who steals from his employer. I just said that bad work ethic is costing us jobs, and such a bad work ethic is not welcome here in this country.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:47 am
I was reading last night that the Lakers were trying to get Beasley from Minny with the trade exception.
I stick with someting along those lines, keep Bynum and Gasol, and use those 2 first round picks we have this summer to add depth to the PG situation when Fish retires this summer.
Goudelock and Blake are good enough if we can add Beasley, imo.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 am
Btw,
I guess my filth was acceptable by this site (Steve & John) because it is still posted here.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
People with a good work “ethic” are the ones without the brains and pizazz in my book.
I always produce near the top of my peers, in multiple jobs, with multiple companies, in multiple states, and my work ethic is horrible.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 am
I didn’t say*……
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
People with a good work “ethic” are the ones without the brains and pizazz in my book.
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Interesting.
You make good money with this attitude?
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Yup….in a nutshell!
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Interesting Corky’s chat yesterday.
With him and other scribes, getting an invite for a sit down with Reggie, makes you think some of what he says his almost straight from the proverbial horses’ mouth.
So thusfore (according to the chat):
-Bush won’t be franchised, and probably will walk
-Darren will be dangled for a trade, and players in his own lockerroom had some questions on why he couldn’t suit up
-Jason Campbell won’t be offered a contract
-TP will not be the #2
-Wimbley will be asked to restructure or kick rocks
-John Henderson will be waived
-TK is fairly likely to be waived
-DVD is not considered in the mix to be a starter
-Chekwa is
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:56 am
Vegas,
Maybe if you improve your work ethic, you can a own business instead of working for others. There is nothing wrong with a good work ethic.
You can have a great work ethic and still smart to not waist your time, but still work hard to achieve your personal goals.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 am
Bush won’t be franchised, and probably will walk
-Darren will be dangled for a trade, and players in his own lockerroom had some questions on why he couldn’t suit up
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Wow, Bush AND DMac gone, and no way to reload with high powered runners. Hope Taiwan Jones is a BEAST
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
411.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
People with a good work “ethic” are the ones without the brains and pizazz in my book.
I always produce near the top of my peers, in multiple jobs, with multiple companies, in multiple states, and my work ethic is horrible.
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Amen! I just won my third branch of the year out of the 5 years I have been here.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 am
Vegas,
Maybe if you improve your work ethic, you can a own business instead of working for others.
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I have no desire to do so.
A perfect example of my work ethic, lol.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:01 am
Henne,
May not be bad pick but he has 0 mobility so our line will really have to protect the guy. He is a big dude and he can throw a nice ball when he is hot.
Would be a batter upgrade than our last two back ups. Yuck!!!!
Still, if I could sign JC as a back up if there are no head QB openings. I would.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
416.bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 am
Bush won’t be franchised, and probably will walk
-Darren will be dangled for a trade, and players in his own lockerroom had some questions on why he couldn’t suit up
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Wow, Bush AND DMac gone, and no way to reload with high powered runners. Hope Taiwan Jones is a BEAST
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Can’t afford to lose both of those guys. And no Taiwan has not proven he can handle the full load.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:04 am
Vegas,
LOL
There is a difference between working hard and working Smart. I understand your point, but if you combine the two, you can do anything you want.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:04 am
Still, if I could sign JC as a back up if there are no head QB openings. I would.
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Cork said you can etch it in stone, he will not be offered the opportunity to return.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:04 am
R8RAY,
If that’s all that happens and we don’t get any, or very few NEW players on D, then I have to change my prediction that we will be good this coming yr.
I beg the powers that be to please watch tape of the SD game (if nothing else) and see how that D reacted and played when all the chips were down and make an honest assessment of what you really have with this defense.
That game spoke volumes as to the talent and desire of that unit.
Take the Univ. of Alabama (as currently assembled) and switch uniforms with the Raiders D and I would be more confident in their ability to make a stop with the season on the line.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 am
There is a difference between working hard and working Smart. I understand your point, but if you combine the two, you can do anything you want.
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I agree, and I am certainly not reaching my max potential.
But I am sure there are some putz at Rockstar’s job, stressing all day long at the job, making mistakes, and getting lapped by RR, who don’t spend a minute blogging, and have great work “ethics”.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 am
Bcz,
I thought you were a hard worker with a good work ethic. You are the best Cap Expert in this blog.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 am
Didn’t the NFL All Star game used to consist of the college champions vs. the NFL All Stars back in the day?
Or was it the college all stars vs. the SB champion?
Anyone remember that?
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
But I am sure there are some putz at Rockstar’s job, stressing all day long at the job, making mistakes, and getting lapped by RR, who don’t spend a minute blogging, and have great work “ethics”.
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Yeah, and I’m sure there is some dude who is a hard worker, smart, knows how to network, and was promoted a few times while his co worker spent the last few years chatting on the net.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 am
425.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 am
Bcz,
I thought you were a hard worker with a good work ethic. You are the best Cap Expert in this blog.
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I am a hard worker, with a good work ethic, but I could be construed as otherwise considering the amount of time I spend posting in here. My job affords me the time to do so, especially at this time of year. Not a whole heck of a lot going on in the swimming pool business in NY in February.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:16 am
Not a whole heck of a lot going on in the swimming pool business in NY in February.
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LOL
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:19 am
385.HairyBush Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 am
TP=gimmick QB in red zone (best case scenario)
No thanks to Vince Young, He would be counter productive to what the the new Raiders brass is trying to acomplish.
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The perfect situation where we could’ve used Pryor was that 3rd and 3 against Detroit that could’ve sealed the game.
Instead of the sideline route to Schilens (that failed of course) you give it Pryor who if noone is open can simply do a quick juke move and fall forward for the first.
Pryor is not the best passer but if utilized correctly could be a very usefiul weapoon.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 am
Weap-oon. def: A cross between weapon and harpoon.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 am
I am interested to see Pryor play, but I am not that optimistic.
Teams are going to force him to beat them down the field, and I am not sure he has the ability to do so.
Red zone weapon though? Sure, I am sure his athleticism can be utilized.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
Raiders FS Michael Huff’s 2012 base salary of $4 million is fully guaranteed.
He also has a $4 million roster bonus due on March 16. While the Raiders are in cap-clearance mode, they’d have to eat a large chunk of money to get out of Huff’s deal. Huff played well when healthy last year, so it remains to be seen whether he’s even on GM Reggie McKenzie’s chopping block. Over the past three seasons, Huff has caused 11 turnovers with 4.5 sacks and 25 pass breakups.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
TP has a huge problem with his throwing motion which affects his strength and accuracy. We can fix that.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 am
The player rep for free agent Cortland Finnegan indicated Monday that the Titans have not made any contract offers to his client.
“I can’t negotiate with myself,” said agent Terry Watson. “The Titans are going to have to put some numbers in a counter proposal.” Either the Titans are secretly planning to slap Finnegan with the franchise tag, or they’ve already moved on. Finnegan is a top-five free agent cornerback, along with Brent Grimes, Brandon Carr, Carlos Rogers, and Terrell Thomas.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 am
someof TP throws do not look that good but he gets it done. 2010 10th ranked passer rating in the NCAA.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 am
If that is true then I believe Huff counts $9.8 million toward the cap this year then. 4 mill base, 4 mill bonus plus the proration of his signing bonus which accounts for 1,828,750 every year for the life of the contract.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:38 am
Feeling optimistic today.
Carson Palmer, with a full offseason realizes this IS IT for him. He realizes if he wants to leave his ‘mark’ on the league..a legacy, he has to kick some butt this yr. And he does.
DMAC stays relatively healthy and plays to his talent level.
DMoore plays lights out (as he’s shown he can do even as a rookie).
Reese is used correctly and more often. Matchup nightmare.
Defense improves to just below “average”. Maybe 20th in the league-i’m not asking for much and how can it get any worse?
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 am
TP can’t be any worse than #2 (refuse to mention his name)!
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/22/jimmy-clausen-is-candidate-for-release/
If Clausen is released, I’d love to see him at least get a tryout here. He did well in college, has a big upside, and wouldn’t cost much.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
The top 2010 passer rating leaders in the NCAA
1- Kellen Moore (late round pick)
2- Cam Newton (stud)
3- Andrew Luck (stud)
4- Greg McElroy (late round pick)
5- Andy Dalton (stud)
6- Scott Tolzien (undrafted, 3rd stringer in SF)
7- Ryan Mallett (uncertain)
8- Bryant Moniz (never heard of him)
9- Dan Persa (never heard of him)
10- Terrell Pryor (uncertain)
11- Chandler Harnish (never heard of him)
Not sure we want to go off NCAA passer ratings.
The eye in the sky, don’t lie.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
417.bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:59 am
411.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 am
People with a good work “ethic” are the ones without the brains and pizazz in my book.
I always produce near the top of my peers, in multiple jobs, with multiple companies, in multiple states, and my work ethic is horrible.
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Amen! I just won my third branch of the year out of the 5 years I have been here.
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I think I’m somewhere in between, lol.
Smoked before I went to sit in my cubicle EVERY MORNING.
Strolled around the building half the day getting my social butterfly on.
Surfed the net 25% of the time.
Got promoted 6 times in 5 years, and was the “star BA” before I “injured myself at home” and had to take a medical leave for 6 months, lol.
Started my own business though and haven’t looked back sense. O is right, JFB. I’ve never been able to maximize my lack of wrok ethic more than I can these days, lol.
Getting bread is way too easy to still be plugged into the matrix.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:42 am
Steve Corkran: Reggie McKenzie will attempt to trade up into the second or third, maybe even the first, but only if the price is right and there’s a player he feels he has to acquire.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 am
I’ve heard just as many good reports from fans in here on Pryor as I have bad reports.
I’ll reserve judgement on the kid if for no other reason my man TheC is putting his stamp on him.
Priest believes in the guy big time too.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 am
Raiders might not wanna overspend for players, but they have to realize that if they want to be competitive in the league they will HAVE TO spend some $.
You can’t be successful in the league and try to go all cheapo being afraid you’ll get burned.
Calculated risk. There’s no way to avoid it. It’s the nature of good business. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose.
In hindsight, with Mr. Davis at the GM helm these past yrs. he spent tons of $, had tons of top draft choice opportunities, and all we got was losing.
Can’t re-write history, but when you think of “what if”? with all the draft chances and $ spent? If we had had a good GM who knows where we’d be right now.
Drives you nuts to think about that.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:46 am
Still laughing at the idea of the hard worker vs the slacker who still outshines him.
That is some funny shyyyddd mayne.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:47 am
JFB, I can help you out with one of those QB’s…Bryant Moniz was the QB in Hawaii last year! Did well, but a product of the ol’ run and shoot offense! May be like Colt Brennan…we’ll see though!
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 am
LOL @ J.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 am
J,
If I was an employer, I will refuse to pay someone $9+/ hour here when I can pay 1/3 of that in India, China, etc…. and get the same (if not better) production.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:05 am
If I hire people here, their salary will be based on Comissions. Not paying anyone here by the hour. lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:06 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Morning DMAC
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:13 am
DMAC…what’s up, bro?
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
People used to admire and respect a good work ethic, and now we make fun if it while losing our jobs to other countries.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
Good morning DMAC.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 am
I work on about 60% of my pay as commissions/bonuses.
I can’t do the hourly thing.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Commissions is the way to go but unfortunately they are taxed at a higher rate than salary.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 am
454.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
People used to admire and respect a good work ethic, and now we make fun if it while losing our jobs to other countries.
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That is a wonderful myth that makes hard workers feel all warm and fuzzy, but in truth most of the hourly salaries for overseas employees are about the same as they would be here. The difference is in corporate taxation. The companies save billions of dollars in payroll tax and benefits versus what they would pay here.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:19 am
What up O, 666, Hwnrdr, J Heezy and the rest of the crew.
Hope everything is going well w/ ya’ll.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:20 am
Commissions is the way to go but unfortunately they are taxed at a higher rate than salary.
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It is all ordinary income and comes out in the wash when you do your taxes.
But yes, the % you pay on commissions and bonuses will be higher than a standard paycheck.
But ordinary income is ordinary income come tax time.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 am
Bcz,
Who told you it’s a myth? I lived abroad, and I can assure you it’s not.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 am
So we have Underwood, DVD, and Check as our DB’s. (not sure about Lito & CJ)
I think we sign our #1 DB in a few weeks.
Who?????????
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:23 am
All good DMAC! All good!
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 am
O,
Comission wouldn’t be a problem.
Stats were hit and exceeded all the time which is why the promotions were always there.
Might even be easier for us slackers since I wouldn’t be tied to “hours”.
The outsourcing is the main reason I set my sights on leaving that business. They literally were transitioning a lot of the jobs in the building to those Indian cats (who were ALL cool as phugg) right in front of us. Even had us training them. Writing was clearly on the wall.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Avg income in countries like India and China is the same as the US?! The only difference is Taxes?!?! Where do you get that info from.
Corp tax is lower (I agree), but so are the wages.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:25 am
“I think we sign our #1 DB in a few weeks.
Who?????????”
Tracy Porter.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:27 am
People used to admire and respect a good work ethic, and now we make fun if it
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Not at all.
I think folks are just recognizing their strengths and weaknesses.
I value a good work ethic without question. If I’m hiring someone to do a job I’d have to say I’d be more results oriented.
I guess the real question is what do you consider work ethic?
Not blogging on company time?
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:25 am
“I think we sign our #1 DB in a few weeks.
Who?????????”
Tracy Porter.
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I like Porter, but dude is injury prone. Don’t need anymore talented injury prone dudes like DMAC. You guys might have 2 guys to be frustrated at.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
DMAC,
Talking about work ethic. Lol
We cant keep talking about the same OL stuff. Huff, restructure, wish list, etc….
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
I guess the real question is what do you consider work ethic?
Not blogging on company time?
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I get the job done buddy!
Multitasking at it’s finest.
lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 am
China’s average salary per worker is about 1/4 of ours.
And their VAT (17%) is higher than what we pay in cap gains, and their top end tax bracket is higher than ours as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:31 am
J,
When you pay someone by the hour, you are paying them to work. I don’t think employers are paying by the hour, so employees can chat, surf the net, day dream, etc…
Work 8 hours, and then go home and do what you want on your own time.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:31 am
Tracy Porter would be good, as long as the price tag is not too high.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
People used to admire and respect a good work ethic, and now we make fun if it while losing our jobs to other countries.
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Actually, most European countries think we’re a nation of workaholics. An average firm in France or Germany would never DREAM of asking you to work overtime, or work during your lunch break. It’s just not done.
There’s also no such thing as probationary periods for new employees. From the first day you go to work, you’re a full member with full union representation and everything.
Of course, this means that since it’s much more difficult to fire bad employees, anybody without a spotless employment record can’t get hired.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Ok
Here’s my 2 cents on work.
If these peoples would pay me more, I wouldn’t have to do my side hustle.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:34 am
I get the job done buddy!
Multitasking at it’s finest.
lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
I read an article that said multitasking is more harmful to the brain than smoking weed.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Work 8 hours, and then go home and do what you want on your own time.
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In sales, you have no “own time”.
No shifts in sales. I probably log a good 4-7 hours just on the weekends, doing expense reports, filing forms, sending e-mails, printing crap, etc.
Doesn’t matter if you work 30 hours or 60 hours a week, the bottom line is what it is about.
If Rockstar can blog and produce all at once, more power to him. I am sure his compensation is based off his productions, for the most part. So if his employer wants to him not blog, he should tell them to pay him more.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:34 am
I get the job done buddy!
Multitasking at it’s finest.
lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
I read an article that said multitasking is more harmful to the brain than smoking weed.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOhhhh schit! Really?
They fk’n lied to u O!
lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
475.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Ok
Here’s my 2 cents on work.
If these peoples would pay me more, I wouldn’t have to do my side hustle.
That’s all of us, bro!
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:38 am
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Ok
Here’s my 2 cents on work.
If these peoples would pay me more, I wouldn’t have to do my side hustle.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Keep hustling bro, and try to get your business going.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
And F running my own business.
I take enough risks in my life. From my lifestyle, drugs, alcohol, gambling, tricking, etc, etc.
The J-O-B is about the only stable thing in my life, and I would like to keep it that way.
I couldn’t imagine running my own show. I would be a colossal fkn trainwreck.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
Man!
Its a beautiful morning 2day.
I heard its suppose to reach the 70’s most of the week.
In February?
Wow!
Climate change fa’sho!
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:40 am
Vegas,
Most Sales jobs pay Comissions, and there is a reason for that. I was talking about hourly wages.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:41 am
“In sales, you have no “own time”.”
Also it is a results driven position where you are judged by what you did every month or quarter. They want to see reports on what you brought in and what you are forecasting to bring in next quarter.
Our top sales reps come and go as they please but are held to a quota.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Doesn’t matter if you work 30 hours or 60 hours a week, the bottom line is what it is about.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It Does when you get paid an hourly wage.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
And F running my own business.
I take enough risks in my life. From my lifestyle, drugs, alcohol, gambling, tricking, etc, etc.
The J-O-B is about the only stable thing in my life, and I would like to keep it that way.
I couldn’t imagine running my own show. I would be a colossal fkn trainwreck.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Owning and running a business is not for everyone. We can’t all be business owners. Who will sell us cars, clean our stuff, help us at best buy, etc…
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
The Tampa Tribune believes free agent Michael Bush’s skill set “could be intriguing” to the Buccaneers.
The Bucs figure to be one of free agency’s most aggressive teams this year. Despite the presence of LeGarrette Blount, the Tribune has now connected the team to a pair of big backs in Bush and Mike Tolbert because they can play on third downs and convert in short-yardage situations.
Related: Buccaneers
Source: Tampa Tribune
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
I would kill to be hourly again… yeah, might suck a bit in the winter, but from mid-march straight through until November I work 60+ hours a week. I figured it out on year, I worked over 200 hours of overtime that of course was not paid because I am on salary. Another reason why I don’t feel bad blogging on company time.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
And F running my own business.
I take enough risks in my life. From my lifestyle, drugs, alcohol, gambling, tricking, etc, etc.
The J-O-B is about the only stable thing in my life, and I would like to keep it that way.
I couldn’t imagine running my own show. I would be a colossal fkn trainwreck.
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I’ve had several immediate family members who ran their own businesses as their sole source of income for a decade or more. Not for me.
For one thing, that “Be Your Own Boss” line is a load of birdseed. You don’t have one boss to keep happy. You have DOZENS of them, all with their own likes, dislikes, and ways of doing things. Some are reasonable, some not.
Also, if you’re working for a business and they have a bad quarter, you have every legal right to say “Business is down? I’m sorry. That really sucks. NOW PAY ME.” If your own business has a bad month, you just…don’t get paid. Hope you have money in the bank.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
DMAC…wait…did that little piece just say convert on short yardage situations? How many times we’ve seen Bush get stopped???
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
O,
I doubt you are talking with any hourly employees here.
They may have a set shift, but I’m pretty sure these folks are at least salaried.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
“…convert in short-yardage situations.”
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Are they talking about twinkle toes? Guess they didn’t watch any film on him…
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Hey O,
I’m looking for a nice 87-93 mustang LX coupe or hatchback.
Can find schit up here in the bay and don’t want to buy a # job ass car either.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
I couldn’t imagine running my own show. I would be a colossal fkn trainwreck.
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You just have to make sure the first person you hire is the smartest person in the room.
With a good work ethic, of course!
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
DMAC…wait…did that little piece just say convert on short yardage situations? How many times we’ve seen Bush get stopped???
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Yeah they did.
They need to pass whatever they puffing on, this way.
lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
“Routt signs with Chiefs”…LOL, sukas!
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
J,
Other than RR yesterday, I’m not talking about any poster here. I’m talking about it in general.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
Running a bitness is cake, O.
Of course it depends on what type of business you are trying to run.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
DMAC,
Did you look in the autotrader on the net? You can search any where in Ca or the country.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:54 am
J,
Tell that to my mother, Father, uncles, cousins, etc… I’m telling you dude: owning/ running a business is not for everyone. Consider yourself luck.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Lucky
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Raiders FS Michael Huff’s 2012 base salary of $4 million is fully guaranteed.
He also has a $4 million roster bonus due on March 16. While the Raiders are in cap-clearance mode, they’d have to eat a large chunk of money to get out of Huff’s deal. Huff played well when healthy last year, so it remains to be seen whether he’s even on GM Reggie McKenzie’s chopping block. Over the past three seasons, Huff has caused 11 turnovers with 4.5 sacks and 25 pass breakups.
Source: The Sideline View
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 am
DMAC,
Did you look in the autotrader on the net? You can search any where in Ca or the country.
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Actually I haven’t. I’ve been using craigslist.
I’ll check it out.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 am
DMAC,
If you can’t find anything in the autotrader, let me know.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
495.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 am
DMAC…wait…did that little piece just say convert on short yardage situations? How many times we’ve seen Bush get stopped???
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Yeah they did.
They need to pass whatever they puffing on, this way.
lol
Puff puff give!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 am
The Cincinnati Enquirer’s Joe Reedy lists Michael Bush, Mario Manningham, and Robert Meachem as the three free agents most likely to draw an offer from the Bengals.
The team’s top priority is believed to be re-signing FS Reggie Nelson, but the Bengals have the salary cap room to plug holes at running back and wide receiver as well. Profootballtalk’s Gregg Rosenthal astutely pointed out that Bush may have cemented his 2012 role as a complementary back after fading under a heavy workload in the final six weeks of the season.
Related: Bengals, Robert Meachem, Mario Manningham
Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter
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Looks like a few teams are interested in Bush, but as a complementary back.
Interesting to see how we handle this.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
Btw,
I’m looking for a job, so please don’t assume I was talking negatively about working for wages. Owning a business is great, but so is doing what you like. If you like playing with wood (lol) then go be a carpenter.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
I don’t disagree with you, O.
Trying to break into an established market and run your own business can certainly be a headache in terms of turning a profit vs going under.
I agree that we need people who can help is at Best Buy.
I still say that work ethic is way down the list of what makes it “hard to run a business”.
I’d say cash and connections top the list.
Takes money to make money ….
Not what you know, it’s who you know!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 am
autotrader.com????
Might as well walk into a dealership like Carmax.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Again, O!!!
It’s about who you know who can get things done.
Autotrader.com????
My man needs to you open your rolodex and give him a # to someone who can make it happen, bruh!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:07 am
J,
I agree.
My mother has the best work ethic IMO, she is a hard worker and her employers love her, but none of her businesses were successful.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
DMac,
O is not happy with the work ethic you’ve put forth towards purchasing your hooptie.
He needs you to log more hours under research, bruh.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
I used to read Joe Reedy when I was still jonesing for Gradkowski updates.
Solid writer.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
If I read this dumbass “kicking rocks” reply/comment from Cork one more time I’m gonna scream. I deactivated him from my twitter because he says it 10 times a day. Enough already… Answer the damn question you were asked or say you don’t know.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Seems O hit a nerve questioning RRS’s work ethic… he hasn’t been here at all today
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
J,
I will teach you this business before I leave this great country. What do you know about the autotrader? I made a lot of money off the autorader.
Autotrader is the best place to look at cars and learn about prices. If DMAC was here, then I would take him to the Auction myself. Not flying to Oakland unless my man is willing to pay my expenses, and that will increase the price of his 87-93 mustang LX. lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
DMac,
O is not happy with the work ethic you’ve put forth towards purchasing your hooptie.
He needs you to log more hours under research, bruh.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
LMAO
Speaking of hoopties, I still own my 94 Nissan that I bought in 96. Money doesn’t grow on trees. Like you said, it takes money to make money. I rather drive a hooptie and have money than drive a BMW and be broke.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
I rather drive a hooptie and have money than drive a BMW and be broke.
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The problem comes when the hooptie becomes prohibitively expensive to drive, because sh1t keeps breaking all the damn time.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:18 am
Not flying to Oakland unless my man is willing to pay my expenses, and that will increase the price of his 87-93 mustang LX. lol
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LOL!
Absolutely.
All I know about Autotrader is they are much higher than I want to pay. Seems like it is a bunch a dealerships linked to that site vs back in the say when it used to be more personal listings.
I used to list cars in Autotrader hardcopy back in the early 90’s.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:18 am
O,
Big money clients, that you want to invest there money for them, want to see you in the BMW and not the hooptie.
Trust me, I lost a few sales as a broker when I pulled up in my fairly new Chrysler Sebring.
You either upgrade, or park around the corner.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Seems O hit a nerve questioning RRS’s work ethic… he hasn’t been here at all today
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I hope not. RR is a good poster. I was just trying to make a point.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Building a Bully > Kicking Rocks
Think of a new one Steve!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Geeked > Kicking Rocks
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
My take on the entrepreneur vs. employee?
Most important thing in home economics is cash flow. You have enough CF to pay for your living? then you can save the extra or invest in a business.
So. Married? wife makes enough? go be an etrepreneur? not enough? go find that CF you are missing.
and there is my thesis on the whole thing.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 am
J,
I agree. I rent nice cars when I have such meetings.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 am
DMac,
My cheap arsse is STILL rollin the 98 Camry with over 200k.
Moms clowns me everytime she sees me.
Disgusted that I won’t buy another car.
My daughters are too young to know better.
Wifey is siding with Moms though, so I think I’m going to have to break down in a minute, lol.
I want either the Avalanche or a 5 series Bmer, but they are both 8 cyliders = hitting the pockets hard at the gas tank.
I can find a million excuses to roll the Camdogg for another year!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 am
So what are the Lemon Cars you would never buy?
I heard Saab’s and Audi’s are terrible to buy used?
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Get over it > Kicking Rocks
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
J,
A lot of regular people advertise in the autotrader (private sellers), so it gives the buyer an idea about the true value of the car regardless of what Kelly’s BB has listed. You can also see cars in different states, which will also help you.
If you are a dealer, there is nothing better than buying Subaru outback from Ca, Texas, and AZ and selling up north in Oregon. You can buy, sell, and transport the car from home.
We will meet bro.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
I could never be a salesman, JFB.
That whole play the role thing ….
I’d last about a day before a “Well F you too” came flying outta my mouth.
ANd I’d probably finish it off with “ya baaaasssturrrrrdddd!!!!!”
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 am
If I were buying a used car, id start with the japanese. good quality.
I’d stay away from the high tech stuff, ie beemers, mercs, cadies, etc, the cars that have a ton of electronics, those things break down and cost a ton to fix. id also stay away from 4×4s, those tranies are expensive.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:27 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
J,
I will teach you this business before I leave this great country. What do you know about the autotrader? I made a lot of money off the autorader.
Autotrader is the best place to look at cars and learn about prices. If DMAC was here, then I would take him to the Auction myself. Not flying to Oakland unless my man is willing to pay my expenses, and that will increase the price of his 87-93 mustang LX. lol
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I got hook up on them Grey Hound tix.
Just ask the big homie J Heezy.
lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
I’d last about a day before a “Well F you too” came flying outta my mouth.
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Sales is great, you just have to wait in the car before you do that.
Clients are like puppies, you just have to mold them. You let them piss on the carpet early, than they will always piss on the carpet.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:20 am
J,
I agree. I rent nice cars when I have such meetings.
$$$$$$$$$
Sorry Vegas. I agree. Investors want to be assured that you are successful at what you do before they give you their money, but image can only take you do far. Smart investors with real cash want to see my returns and not my cars.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
I’m sure you’re right, O.
I was searching the site for an ‘08 Caddy a couple of years ago, and I saw zero personal listings.
Wifey got the green light to pick up another vehicle and she wasn’t happy with them either. She prefers Edmunds.
We’ll definitely talk.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
I could never be a salesman, JFB.
That whole play the role thing ….
I’d last about a day before a “Well F you too” came flying outta my mouth.
ANd I’d probably finish it off with “ya baaaasssturrrrrdddd!!!!!”
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ROFLMAO
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
396.J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
What’s your thoughts on Bynum these days, Dakota.
Have you come to your senses yet?
+++++++++++++++++++++
Trade him for Howard asap.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
Smart investors with real cash want to see my returns and not my cars.
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Absolutely.
But to find the investors and make them clients initially, you have to play the part and pass the first impression test.
“Act as if”, as Afleck said in the greatest sales movie ever, Boiler Room.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
I’d stay away from the high tech stuff, ie beemers, mercs, cadies, etc, the cars that have a ton of electronics
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I might as well keep my damn Camry then.
Glad you talked some sense into me.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 am
DMac,
My cheap arsse is STILL rollin the 98 Camry with over 200k.
Moms clowns me everytime she sees me.
Disgusted that I won’t buy another car.
My daughters are too young to know better.
Wifey is siding with Moms though, so I think I’m going to have to break down in a minute, lol.
I want either the Avalanche or a 5 series Bmer, but they are both 8 cyliders = hitting the pockets hard at the gas tank.
I can find a million excuses to roll the Camdogg for another year!
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I know.
Thats why I’m still iffy on selling my 97 honda civic to my sister-in-law. That fker runs and is great on gas, but I luv dem mustangs man.
Still have my 66′ mustang, but I also want a lx.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 am
I got hook up on them Grey Hound tix.
Just ask the big homie J Heezy.
lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
First class flying only. Round trip too.
Last time I tried to help a friend, I went to Chicago, I stayed at his house with the wife and kid, had to go with him to work, and I had to pay for my flight home.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 am
It’s just not an option driving a car that’s crappier than your clients daughters car.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 am
517.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
DMac,
O is not happy with the work ethic you’ve put forth towards purchasing your hooptie.
He needs you to log more hours under research, bruh.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
LMAO
Speaking of hoopties, I still own my 94 Nissan that I bought in 96. Money doesn’t grow on trees. Like you said, it takes money to make money. I rather drive a hooptie and have money than drive a BMW and be broke.
++++++++++++++++++++
Hell ya, drive those cars into the ground. i remember a commercial where a dude was driving around a used car that was paid off, and money was blowing out of the vents in his face lol. Think it was an auto supply commercial or something.
I made my wife drive around a 99 caddy for 2 years with a blown head gasket. It would overheat any time we left town with it, but it did fine getting her to work and back, and it was paid off! But we finally caved and bought a used Camry xle last summer. I hate car payments.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 am
Curtis Lofton and John Abraham are both stalwarts of Atlanta’s defense, but as free agency approaches, the Falcons will let both of them walk.
Source: PFT
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 am
Just like in here, you gotta Act as If you know what the flip you are talking about around the Semi’s.
Weak propaganda will not be tolerated!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 am
“Act as if”, as Afleck said in the greatest sales movie ever, Boiler Room.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
My ol boss made me watch that movie with him a few times. It is his favorite.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
What about Curtis Lofton at MLB he is a free agent and it looks like the Falcons are not going to try to keep him.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Lofton would be a huuuuge upgrade over Romac.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
And I don’t drive nothing nice, just a new Sonata.
Company will be pay depreciation on the whip (tax-free), but the car has to be 5 years or newer.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Dakota,
You’re not at all concerned about the drama queen aspect of Howard?
If Howard is not making Oralando a threat to Miami, how is he going to help us?
We’d still have Artest at SF and D Fish at PG and a guy at C who is worse offensively.
I’d rather keep Bynum and Gasol, and trade for Beasly.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
“Act as if”, as Afleck said in the greatest sales movie ever, Boiler Room.
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True story. That movie is great.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
Lofton was my FFL LB last year, and helped me win a championship in Dell’s league.
He’s a winner!!!
Lofton and Double-nickel in the middle of Dennis Allen’s D will be cracking dudes heads-open.
Print that!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
The Lake show ain’t going no where peoples!
They’re old and washed up.
Time to blow that schit up and come fresh.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 am
Lofton and Double-nickel in the middle of Dennis Allen’s D will be cracking dudes heads-open.
Print that!
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I 2nd that!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
548.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Lofton would be a huuuuge upgrade over Romac.
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Unfortunatly there is no way we can afford him. The cap hit to cut Romac is absurd ($13.5 mill, vs 45 mill to keep him) Lofton is going to command a big deal as he is the top available MLB.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
What would be Lofton’s price, is the question!
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February 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
I made my wife drive around a 99 caddy for 2 years with a blown head gasket. It would overheat any time we left town with it
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LMAO
That’s just wrong dude.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
I’ll never buy another Caddy, those fking things are money pits. Great ride when they work, but can’t fix anything on them for less than $2k seems like.
They wanted close to 6K to fix the head gasket on our DeVille and only gave us a 50-50 chance to fix would work. Then said they could install a used engine for the same price, but again, on that particular north star v8 the head bolts were made with cheap material and the used engine might have the same issue.
Fk that.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
Caddy’s are GM’s. GM’s come equipped with a little known factory option called built in obsolesence. They are designed to fail between 100-150k miles. Some genius thought they would get more sales if people had to replace their cars every 5 or 6 years…
Japanese cars last forever, and yet the manage to sell the most cars too? The flunkies in GM could never figure that out, hence the bankruptcy
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
Good day Nation, or at least the hard cores…
Before we add large contracts, we’ve got to get rid of some. I can only see us signing middle of the pack FA’s(at best) and like Reggie said, he’ll be scouring through the waiver wire and UDFA’s for talent.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
Dakota,
Sometimes buying new cars is better than used if you are financing. Special rates on new cars (0.9%, 1.9%, etc) can make your payment the same as the used car with the higher rate 5%+.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
553.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
The Lake show ain’t going no where peoples!
They’re old and washed up.
Time to blow that schit up and come fresh.
LOL…sorry!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
I made my wife drive around a 99 caddy for 2 years with a blown head gasket. It would overheat any time we left town with it, but it did fine getting her to work and back,
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LOL!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
Dakota Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
I’ll never buy another Caddy, those fking things are money pits. Great ride when they work, but can’t fix anything on them for less than $2k seems like.
They wanted close to 6K to fix the head gasket on our DeVille and only gave us a 50-50 chance to fix would work. Then said they could install a used engine for the same price, but again, on that particular north star v8 the head bolts were made with cheap material and the used engine might have the same issue.
Fk that.
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You can’t ride a newer caddy. Those schits break down all the time. You gotta roll w/ the ol’ school caddys.
I had 73′ coupe deville. Ran like a champ, but was killing me w/ the gas.
You could literally see the gas guage moving down slowly when hitting the gas.
I would drive that thing like a O.G. Pimp, 20 miles per hr. on the streets.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
The only thing that keeps them around is the over-sized American population that can’t comfortably fit in the undersized japanese automobile.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
The Lake show ain’t going no where peoples!
They’re old and washed up.
Time to blow that schit up and come fresh.
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We are 1 game outta 1st place and we need to blow it up?
So what do the Ws need to do?
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 am
6 Gs for a used engine?!?! I would pass on that too. And unless you own a special car, 6 Gs is way too much to spend fixing a used car that Will have the same problem again or another problem soon.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
Lol, I go with cheap cars:
Cars in order from age 14 till now:
1972 Toyota Land Cruiser (hated it then, wish I still had it now)
1985 Ford Tempo
1991 Ford Taurus
1995 For Taurus
1995 Mazda 929 (fking awesome car-hit a deer and the insurance agency totalled it)
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix
1999 Caddy DeVille
and now we have a 1989 Dodge Power Ram (dump runner) truck, a 2008 Camry and a 2003 Chevy Tahoe. I love my Tahoe until gas prices hit $4.00 a gallon.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 am
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix
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I have a 2000 GTP, I absolutely love the car but I could literally spend 2 hours telling you all the little problems with it, because of garbage GM manufacturing. The 3.8L V6 is GM’s most reliable motor though, you have to try damn hard to kill one.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
The Lake show ain’t going no where peoples!
They’re old and washed up.
Time to blow that schit up and come fresh.
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We are 1 game outta 1st place and we need to blow it up?
So what do the Ws need to do?
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Playoffs won’t equal championships J Heezy. The Lakers are old and it will show in the playoffs.
As for my Dubs……….
We need to trade Monta, start Thompson at the 2 and find us a legit big man.
We’re one of the youngest teams in the league dude.
I gotta live w/ the bumps and bruises.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
Caddy’s are GM’s. GM’s come equipped with a little known factory option called built in obsolesence. They are designed to fail between 100-150k miles. Some genius thought they would get more sales if people had to replace their cars every 5 or 6 years…
Japanese cars last forever, and yet the manage to sell the most cars too? The flunkies in GM could never figure that out, hence the bankruptcy
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The recent bailout was caused by the institutional arrogance of the American automakers back in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. The quality of their vehicles kept deteriorating, but they never made any serious attempts to fix anything, because it was felt that “real Americans” would always BUY American. (There was a famous sign in Detroit in the early 80s that said “80,000 unemployed UAW workers don’t like your import. Please park it in Japan.”) They finally got their act together in the early 90s, but by then it was too late.
Two entire generations had grown up with their parents cursing cruddy GMs, Fords and Chryslers for breaking down all the time, then buying a Toyota, Honda or Subaru and never having a problem with it. So when it comes for these young adults to buy a car, it’s only natural they’d stick with the Japanese brands that had served their families so well.
Detroit’s fall was its own damn fault. PERIOD.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock suggests that Midwestern State T/G Amini Silatolu has a chance to be a second-round pick.
Silatolu is not a well-recognized name because he played D-2 ball, but the two-time Lone Star Conference Offensive Lineman of the Year has gained steam recently in the public eye. “This kid played left tackle. Most people think he’s gonna kick inside,” says Mayock. “But I put the tape on … I couldn’t believe how well this thick-bodied left tackle moved laterally. Trust me folks, he’s nasty as can be. He might be a second-round pick.”
Source: NFL.com
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
561.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
Dakota,
Sometimes buying new cars is better than used if you are financing. Special rates on new cars (0.9%, 1.9%, etc) can make your payment the same as the used car with the higher rate 5%+.
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Absolutely! I have just realized this after replacing the transfer case, brakes and tires totalled almost 6 grand for my 2004 1 ton Chevy. Buying new this spring and giving mine to my foreman and then buying new for myself every 3-4 years.
Would you rather payment and a new truck/car or repairs and an older one? I think it works out the the same money in the long run.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
570.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
The Lake show ain’t going no where peoples!
They’re old and washed up.
Time to blow that schit up and come fresh.
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We are 1 game outta 1st place and we need to blow it up?
So what do the Ws need to do?
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Playoffs won’t equal championships J Heezy. The Lakers are old and it will show in the playoffs.
As for my Dubs……….
We need to trade Monta, start Thompson at the 2 and find us a legit big man.
We’re one of the youngest teams in the league dude.
I gotta live w/ the bumps and bruises.
Do you really believe that?
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
567.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 am
6 Gs for a used engine?!?! I would pass on that too. And unless you own a special car, 6 Gs is way too much to spend fixing a used car that Will have the same problem again or another problem soon.
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Yep, near 6G installed. no guarantees or warranties.
No thanks and we drove that sucker until it started overheating just going across town. Then I sold it to a guy for $500 (and kept our stereo lol) who thought he could fix it himself….he later sold the tires and sent it to the scrap heap.
Great ride though. Damn, no outside noise or road noise, and it could put you to sleep on a long drive it was so smooth, and that v8 could get up and go and still got about 26 on the hwy.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 am
I spend the dough on one of those Honda Civic hybrids if I could find one with the carpool sticker.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
570.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
The Lake show ain’t going no where peoples!
They’re old and washed up.
Time to blow that schit up and come fresh.
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We are 1 game outta 1st place and we need to blow it up?
So what do the Ws need to do?
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Playoffs won’t equal championships J Heezy. The Lakers are old and it will show in the playoffs.
As for my Dubs……….
We need to trade Monta, start Thompson at the 2 and find us a legit big man.
We’re one of the youngest teams in the league dude.
I gotta live w/ the bumps and bruises.
Do you really believe that?
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yes
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 am
569.bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 am
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix
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I have a 2000 GTP, I absolutely love the car but I could literally spend 2 hours telling you all the little problems with it, because of garbage GM manufacturing. The 3.8L V6 is GM’s most reliable motor though, you have to try damn hard to kill one.
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Yes, we sold that to my sister-in-law and she still loves it. Has over 200K miles on it, and had to have the transmission replaced, but she won’t give it up. I liked it, but damn the seat was uncomfortable on long trips, and the interior was all plastic junk. Got 32-34 mpg on the hwy though! Just as good as our Camry with the V6 in it.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 am
576.J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 am
I spend the dough on one of those Honda Civic hybrids if I could find one with the carpool sticker.
I thought California put a stop to that…stickers no longer work!
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
DMAC…look at the Spurs…
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 am
That 1999 caddy we purchased at an auction in Denver….it was a secret service car lol.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
I can’t believe gas is over $4/ G again. Some places $5+. The wife wanted a BMW, I laughed for a few hours, and told to look at the new Made in America Passat. I hate that 5 cyl engine they have, and she doesn’t like Diesel, so the only other option is the VR6 engine. It’s a good engine, has great gas mileage compared to other 6 cyl engines, but I don’t want to pay $100+ in gas every week.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
BTW: I wasn’t referring to your take on what’s wrong with the W’s…I was referring to your old washed up idea…
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 am
DMAC…look at the Spurs…
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Like I told J, playoffs won’t equal championships.
I think it will come down to the Thunder and Heat in the finals.
Heard it here first peoples!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
And the new Passat is cheaper than before, but it’s still expensive. 35K, and it’s made in America?!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
You may be right on that one…but as long as the Lakers do get in…you know that you can never count them out!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Cali stopped issuing the stickers years ago.
But if you have one, they most certainly do work.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:01 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
BTW: I wasn’t referring to your take on what’s wrong with the W’s…I was referring to your old washed up idea…
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I think the Lakers are turning into the Celtics. Lots of great talent, but they’re getting old.
They’ll make the playoffs, but won’t win any championship.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
I think it will come down to the Thunder and Heat in the finals.
Heard it here first peoples!
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Heard what here first?????
PUHHHH LEEZE!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Cali stopped issuing the stickers years ago.
But if you have one, they most certainly do work.
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Thanx for the 411 J
I think its time to peel me one
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
Yes, we sold that to my sister-in-law and she still loves it. Has over 200K miles on it, and had to have the transmission replaced, but she won’t give it up. I liked it, but damn the seat was uncomfortable on long trips, and the interior was all plastic junk. Got 32-34 mpg on the hwy though! Just as good as our Camry with the V6 in it.
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I have the supercharged version, gets about 26mpg on the highway, but I have done some mods to it and push 305hp out of it vs the stock 238. I also need new plugs and wires which would certainly get me back to 30mpg.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
587.J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Cali stopped issuing the stickers years ago.
But if you have one, they most certainly do work.
They still do? Cool…
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
You may be right on that one…but as long as the Lakers do get in…you know that you can never count them out!
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Its possible, but I wouldn’t count on it.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 am
593.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
You may be right on that one…but as long as the Lakers do get in…you know that you can never count them out!
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Its possible, but I wouldn’t count on it.
LOL…Hater!!! LOL…You know its all good bro!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 am
More ‘foreign’ cars are made in America than American cars LOL.
BMW produces cars in South Carolina, Toyota, Nissan and Honda have plants here…
GMs and Chryslers? Made in Canada… go figure
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Fisher and Artest are old.
Bynum and GaSTUD are not old
Blake and Goudelock aren’t old.
Kobe is still Kobe
Lakers pick up Beasly, a ring is a lock!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
CW,
I suggest every 5-8 years. Take full advantage of the factory warranty 5 yr/ 60K, and spread your cost over a longer period. You shouldn’t have problems the 1st 5-8 years.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
BTW: Still trying to figure out the costs and sho’s going on the 10th for the Warriors/Mavs game…will keep you posted!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 am
593.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
You may be right on that one…but as long as the Lakers do get in…you know that you can never count them out!
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Its possible, but I wouldn’t count on it.
LOL…Hater!!! LOL…You know its all good bro!!!
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Hey, I’m a keep it real tho.
I always roll w/ the west coast tho.
I rather see the Lakers take it than the Celts or any other east coast team.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
591.bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
Yes, we sold that to my sister-in-law and she still loves it. Has over 200K miles on it, and had to have the transmission replaced, but she won’t give it up. I liked it, but damn the seat was uncomfortable on long trips, and the interior was all plastic junk. Got 32-34 mpg on the hwy though! Just as good as our Camry with the V6 in it.
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I have the supercharged version, gets about 26mpg on the highway, but I have done some mods to it and push 305hp out of it vs the stock 238. I also need new plugs and wires which would certainly get me back to 30mpg.
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We looked at one of those just before we purchased the Camry….all black with a black leather interior….I was picturing Raider helmets stitched into those seats, but we must be getting old because we went with the reliable Camry instead lol.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
Sounds like Reggie is on his way to Indianapolis!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
JFB,
Weather is looking pretty good for this weekend.
Will be getting in a couple of rounds.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
I agree DMAC!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
597.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
CW,
I suggest every 5-8 years. Take full advantage of the factory warranty 5 yr/ 60K, and spread your cost over a longer period. You shouldn’t have problems the 1st 5-8 years.
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So when you trade it in, or sell it, don’t you normally get less than what the amount is still owed on it? Do you just roll that into your new financing?
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Bcz,
Toyota, Nissan, Honda, BMW, and VW have factories in the US.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
BTW: Anyone see the picture floating around with MJ peeling off Jeremy Lin’s face with the caption of “Gotcha” ?
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
I’m not buying a new ride.
I’m looking for the deal of the century at the auction.
Roll it for 6 months to a year, flip it, and start the process all over again.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Fisher and Artest are old.
Bynum and GaSTUD are not old
Blake and Goudelock aren’t old.
Kobe is still Kobe
Lakers pick up Beasly, a ring is a lock!
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Kobe ain’t getting old?????
Even MJ’s game started declining when stacking a few years to him.
Blake is garbage and can’t guard anyone.
Googlock?? (who the fk is that)
You guys want a ring???????
Add D. Will to your team and watch out!!!!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Dakota,
I rather not do that, and that’s why I suggested 5-8 years. Most car loans are 5 years. If you add it, then you are increasing the loan on the new car, but it’s value will not change, so you end up owing a lot more than the car is worth, which will make it harder to trade and will keep you in that cycle.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
O Dog,
How can I get my auction license?
Is there a lot to it?
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
J,
That’s what I did for years. Smart thinking bro, but you need to learn how to buy those cars. You need to steal cars from the auction, and you need to make sure they are in good shape.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Jhill,
From what i am reading the cheap azz Lakers are back, lead by Jim Buss, and they are looking to cut salary, not add talent. So I do not picture the Lakers using the trade exemption to bring in any additional salary. Lamar was a salary dump, now they are looking to dump Gasol’s contract off on someone, and not necessarily bring back as much talent.
Jim Buss is getting a second bite at the apple and he is, once again, sinking the ship.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 am
609.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Dakota,
I rather not do that, and that’s why I suggested 5-8 years. Most car loans are 5 years. If you add it, then you are increasing the loan on the new car, but it’s value will not change, so you end up owing a lot more than the car is worth, which will make it harder to trade and will keep you in that cycle.
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Oh, I see, totally missed that in your post. My bad.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
DMAC,
It can be a little expensive. You have to get a bond, pay fees, etc…
You can go to some auctions without a license. I suggest you do that 1st, and if you like it, then get your license.
You can look at Gov auctions, police repo, etc..
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
604.Dakota Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
597.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 am
CW,
I suggest every 5-8 years. Take full advantage of the factory warranty 5 yr/ 60K, and spread your cost over a longer period. You shouldn’t have problems the 1st 5-8 years.
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So when you trade it in, or sell it, don’t you normally get less than what the amount is still owed on it? Do you just roll that into your new financing?
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I’m at 60K after 2 and a half years!
I figure if I start fresh with a 4 year deal, after 3 years I sell and have a nice size down payment for the next one, keeping my monthjly payments lower. Mind you, I’m talking trucks, which keep their value higher for longer.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
I think that is that babble of some impatient writers, Dakota.
Let’s sit back and wait and see if they use that trade exception or not.
I’ve read they would use it on a player like Ramon Sessions or Beasly but want to wait and see how the D Howard thing shakes out. They might need that trade exception and a 3rd team to make it work.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaiderDuck,
Your post reminds me of all those, ummmm, forget the word for them. You know, What does FORD stand for?
Fvcker only runs downhill
Fix or repair daily
Found on road dead…
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
Dakota,
Remember what I told you about the special rates on new cars compared ti higher rates on used cars. I bought my mother a demo Matrix, had less than 1K miles, I bought it below invoice since it was used, but got the new car financing and warranty.
Less than 300/ month with no down payment.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
and you need to make sure they are in good shape.
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Yeah, I have a couple of decent mechanics in the rolodex.
Just need to free up some time so I can get in the game.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 am
For Old Retard Drivers. Fvcked Over Rebuilt Dodge
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:24 am
CW,
Do you consider buying an extended warranty? That may help. If you own your business, you can lease for 3 years, and deduct it as a business expense.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
618.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
Dakota,
Remember what I told you about the special rates on new cars compared ti higher rates on used cars. I bought my mother a demo Matrix, had less than 1K miles, I bought it below invoice since it was used, but got the new car financing and warranty.
Less than 300/ month with no down payment.
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Yep, there are some good deals out there. Often times though, the 0% financing are on the models I am not interested in lol.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Just read some ish on this kid Shea McClellin OLB out of Boise…..projected to go in the 2-3 RD of this years draft.
Watched some video highlights on this kid…not bad, kid has a MOTOR!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1RFVe8dxfok#!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
It can be a little expensive. You have to get a bond, pay fees, etc…
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Or you can put a guy on the payroll who has his license.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
I was listening to an interview with Brandon lloyd and they asked him if he would like to be reunited with Josh McDaniels, not just in St.Louis this past season but also in Dungver and I thought, Is Hue Jackson ever not a popular guy in the NFL!
McDaniels makes Hue look like Parcells in comparison and HE is still able to land consecutive OC jobs while Hue is now an ASSISTANT DB and ST’s coach!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 am
DMAC,
It can be a little expensive. You have to get a bond, pay fees, etc…
You can go to some auctions without a license. I suggest you do that 1st, and if you like it, then get your license.
You can look at Gov auctions, police repo, etc..
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Yeah I been to lots of auctions w/ out a license, but it ain’t the same as the gov auctions.
+ you almost got fight muthaphuckas at those auctions open to the public, cuz dudes be trippin on winning the bids
True story……..
Years back I went to this auction in SF. This one older dude was bidding on a car that someone else wanted and there was a disagreement. The younger cats starts punching the dude in the face w/ a cast on. I must admit though. Schit was kind of funny because the dude that was getting punched was yelling “arrest this man, he hit me!!!”
lol (I will never forget that)
Oh, and to top it all off, I tried to tell my patna that the tranny on Buick he was about to buy was slipping hard.
We got half way threw the bay bridge and heard a “Popp!”
The tranny had blown out and we coasted to angel island and left it there.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 am
624.J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
It can be a little expensive. You have to get a bond, pay fees, etc…
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Or you can put a guy on the payroll who has his license.
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That’s what we did…..we had a “guy”
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
621.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:24 am
CW,
Do you consider buying an extended warranty? That may help. If you own your business, you can lease for 3 years, and deduct it as a business expense.
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My accountant finds writing off the purchase, and then the depreciation of a purchased vehicle is more beneficial to me than leasing, so I don’t argue!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
616.J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
I think that is that babble of some impatient writers, Dakota.
Let’s sit back and wait and see if they use that trade exception or not.
I’ve read they would use it on a player like Ramon Sessions or Beasly but want to wait and see how the D Howard thing shakes out. They might need that trade exception and a 3rd team to make it work.
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They sat on their last trade exemption. Farmar I think, or maybe Vlad.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
I ride Ford Mustangs!
Fk the haters!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
It can be a little expensive. You have to get a bond, pay fees, etc…
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Or you can put a guy on the payroll who has his license.
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LMAO
You don’t want to do anything. You want to invest, and get good returns. That’s it! Dude, you don’t want to be a business owner, you want to be an investor!
Still LMAO
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 am
I’d take a mustang.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
I ride Ford Mustangs!
Fk the haters!
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I owned two, an ‘85 and then a ‘91 5.0. I loved them, they were cheap to fix back then and I could put 5 bucks in gas and ride for 2 days!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
I can see I am the minority here buying German cars all of my life.
We bought our 328i about 4 years ago and have put 70K on it since then only changing the oil every 6K (synthetic) we get 27MPG as it is a stick shift.
I had a 525i before that and had it for 8 years again only changing the oil and brakes great cars I would not own anything else.
Like I said I realize that it may seem anti american to buy German cars but until they make better cars here I will stay with what works for me.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
5.0 is the best toughest motor Ford has ever built.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
DMAC,
It’s much worse at dealer auctions. You have to compete and deal with people like me. Its better to start at gov auctions, most people don’t know what they are doing, so you have a better chance of stealing a good car from there than a deaker’s auction full of experts who know exactly what to pay. Much much room for mistakes or profits.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
….Would rather have a 1970 Chevelle though.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:36 am
I thought putting people on the payroll was Boss type stuff, O?
I realize that there are A LOT of people out there with very good skills.
I have no problem paying for services.
I want to go to the auction with my “guy” but I don’t see the need in going through all the rigamarow of getting a license. For what?
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
DMAC,
It’s much worse at dealer auctions. You have to compete and deal with people like me. Its better to start at gov auctions, most people don’t know what they are doing, so you have a better chance of stealing a good car from there than a deaker’s auction full of experts who know exactly what to pay. Much much room for mistakes or profits.
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Yeah I here you, but I’m not trying to fight some dumb ass fool for a car.
I’m a lover, not a fighter!
lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
My accountant finds writing off the purchase, and then the depreciation of a purchased vehicle is more beneficial to me than leasing, so I don’t argue!
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That works too. I’m not an accountant.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
I had a 525i before that and had it for 8 years again only changing the oil and brakes great cars I would not own anything else.
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I’m with you.
5 Series is on my radar right now.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
I’m a Mustang man, but if I were to go Chevy it would have to be 70′-72′ Nova.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
My tax lady is better than any of your accountants, lol.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
666,
We test drove an Audi S4 or something, we loved it, but living in a small town I decided to call around to some of the local mechanics and none of them would touch it, and I only found 1 guy in Rapid City who would work on them.
Couldn’t do it.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
640.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
My accountant finds writing off the purchase, and then the depreciation of a purchased vehicle is more beneficial to me than leasing, so I don’t argue!
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That works too. I’m not an accountant.
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Me either, how these fvcking guys know all that they do, especially when it comes to taxes is beyond me!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
If I go Beamer its gotta be the big body 745LI boy, on them 22″ Ashanti’s.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
I owned an RX-7, that was a sweet ride, until I smashed it.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
DMAC,
You don’t have to fight, but you may need a good “work ethic”. See if you can go to the auction the night before, and see if you can price the cars and target a few before the auction is open. When the auction opens the next day, you can be fully prepared, and you don’t have to try to compete/ deal with those fools over every car. You can always to try to find someone who is willing to sell a few cars before the auction starts, but you really have to take care if that person.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Sorry, my opinion but I’d rather have a Mercedes than a Beamer! Don’t know why…
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
DMAC,
You don’t have to fight, but you may need a good “work ethic”. See if you can go to the auction the night before, and see if you can price the cars and target a few before the auction is open. When the auction opens the next day, you can be fully prepared, and you don’t have to try to compete/ deal with those fools over every car. You can always to try to find someone who is willing to sell a few cars before the auction starts, but you really have to take care if that person.
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Fa’sho
Thanx for the heads up
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
RX-7s are good rotary engine cars…boy, you can soup the little sucker and go really fast!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:43 am
J,
No more 5 series for me since the only two options for engine are a 4 cyl turbo & a v8. No thank you.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
“We test drove an Audi S4 or something, we loved it, but living in a small town I decided to call around to some of the local mechanics and none of them would touch it, and I only found 1 guy in Rapid City who would work on them.
Couldn’t do it.”
This is something to take into consideration as parts can be very expensive, luckily for me I live in the Bay Area and the junkyards are full of cars like mine so instead of paying $400 for a broken tail light I can easily go down to the Pick n Pull on Monterrey Highway and get one for $15.
If I did not live here and have access to the pick and pull I would not own a bmw.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
22’s ain’t nuthin but askin for trouble.
Don’t want or need any of that attention.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
RX-7s are good rotary engine cars…boy, you can soup the little sucker and go really fast!
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Thats all my bros. fk with are these mazda rotary engines and hype them up. Then they slap them in these ol’ school toyotas and race them.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Hwnrdr,
The older I get, the more I agree with your statement. BMW is for drivers, and the Benz offers a smoother, heavier, and more luxurious ride IMHO.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Not really trippin if I can get in for a “steal” and flip it when I get tired of it, O.
I don’t really care what I drive.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
655.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
RX-7s are good rotary engine cars…boy, you can soup the little sucker and go really fast!
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Thats all my bros. fk with are these mazda rotary engines and hype them up. Then they slap them in these ol’ school toyotas and race them.
I bet one of those old school 86 Toyota Corolas! LOL
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 am
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
22’s ain’t nuthin but askin for trouble.
Don’t want or need any of that attention.
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Thats why you just bring it out on the weekends or on special occasions, then you park it at pops house and drive the bucket back home.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 am
If I could “steal” an E Class from the auction, I wouldn’t be mad either.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
“22’s ain’t nuthin but askin for trouble.
Don’t want or need any of that attention.”
Young guys just don’t get that low profile thing….I always say I am flying under the radar. I do what I can to blend in and never draw attention to myself.
These law enforcement ass holes are out there trying very hard to take your money on every street corner and every freeway and the last thing I want to do is give them any more of my money!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
655.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
RX-7s are good rotary engine cars…boy, you can soup the little sucker and go really fast!
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Thats all my bros. fk with are these mazda rotary engines and hype them up. Then they slap them in these ol’ school toyotas and race them.
I bet one of those old school 86 Toyota Corolas! LOL
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Corollas and Datsons all day
lol
Not me though. I’m the only one who fks w/ Mustangs. They talk schit all the time.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
656.Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Hwnrdr,
The older I get, the more I agree with your statement. BMW is for drivers, and the Benz offers a smoother, heavier, and more luxurious ride IMHO.
Yup…if I’m gonna spend the money…might as well be smooth!
I used to own an ‘03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
Sold it because I was just tired of 1) driving stick, and 2) people always coming up to me and reving their engine! Sometimes, you just can’t help but fly past these idiots though!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
J Heezy,
You said you lived in AZ right?
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
666
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
662.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
655.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
RX-7s are good rotary engine cars…boy, you can soup the little sucker and go really fast!
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Thats all my bros. fk with are these mazda rotary engines and hype them up. Then they slap them in these ol’ school toyotas and race them.
I bet one of those old school 86 Toyota Corolas! LOL
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Corollas and Datsons all day
lol
Not me though. I’m the only one who fks w/ Mustangs. They talk schit all the time.
Datsuns are cool though! But it has to be the non smog years!
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Combine important dates:
Workout for DL, LB on Monday, and Tuesday will be DB’s.
The Raiders need to look at LB’s and Db’s as needed most to revamp their Defense.
I believe they will draft a DB for sure and try to find a servicable LB as a back up with future potential to start.
Free agency will tell us what direction they decided to go, and looks to me offensively they want some pieces, but the main parts are in place. Look for defensive guys who will fit a hybrid scheme, or guys who can stand up or get in a three point stance.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
POST-565,THAT WOULD BE ME…
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
I’m the same way bro, but I’m getting tired of driving Japanese cars. They are small, loud, and you feel every bump in the road. American cars are not made to last anymore (not the same as 50’s – 80’s), and German cars are too expensive to own and maintain/ fix.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Jacoby Ford and Louis Murphy were in the wedding party and didn’t return until two days ago. As for everyone else, they probably didn’t get a compensation package for their expensive stay in the Dominican Republic.
Cold feet…..?
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am
I do what I can to blend in and never draw attention to myself.
These law enforcement ass holes are out there trying very hard to take your money on every street corner and every freeway and the last thing I want to do is give them any more of my money!
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My sister was a Sheriff and tried to tell me that for YEARS.
Stay off THEIR radar. They don’t have crystal balls.. Plenty of people falling into their laps for them to chase people.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Dell, did you check out that kid (Shea McClellin)?
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
J,
German cars are easy to steal. Try stealing a Honda or Toyota. Lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
662.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
655.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
RX-7s are good rotary engine cars…boy, you can soup the little sucker and go really fast!
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Thats all my bros. fk with are these mazda rotary engines and hype them up. Then they slap them in these ol’ school toyotas and race them.
I bet one of those old school 86 Toyota Corolas! LOL
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Corollas and Datsons all day
lol
Not me though. I’m the only one who fks w/ Mustangs. They talk schit all the time.
Datsuns are cool though! But it has to be the non smog years!
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Yeah, they got ol’ school early 70’s
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
664.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
J Heezy,
You said you lived in AZ right?
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Moms did for years.
Definitely trying to get back there.
You got those GH tickets to Tucson on the cheap, hit me up.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Speaking of work ethic, I should do more for the draft, but it’s hard to get excited about the draft when you only have a few late round picks.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
I remember those days DMAC…72 Datsun 510 wagon and a 73 Datsun 240Z…miss those cars, but getting up there in age to mess with those cars now a days!
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
J,
German cars are easy to steal. Try stealing a Honda or Toyota. Lol
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You can use scissors to take some of them.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
664.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
J Heezy,
You said you lived in AZ right?
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Moms did for years.
Definitely trying to get back there.
You got those GH tickets to Tucson on the cheap, hit me up.
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Fa sho!
lol
Can’t you ride strapped in AZ?
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
According to draftcountdown.com, the Raiders were interested in LBs, DL, RBs, and a few DBs (Ss as I remember) at the SR bowl.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
r8eray Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Dell, did you check out that kid (Shea McClellin)?
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Afternoon to you r8eray. Yes I have. I’m looking at what scouts say will be available in rounds 5-7. Can any of you guys tell me what you know or have seen for the following:
Asa jackson Cal Poly
Jeremy Jones WayneSt-MI
Jerron McMillian Maine
Joshua Norman Coastal carolina
Information is very limited. I don’t care about the intangibles of HS, and all other nawards, just want to know are they football players.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
630.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
I ride Ford Mustangs!
Fk the haters!
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I hear that, I am looking for an 02-03 Stang to turn into a monster. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQX3cOAbes for my ‘inspiration’ Thats where a few bonus checks over the next couple of years are headed.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I wish Marley would take the next few days off, it would help us out who are curious about this years draft class.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr,
So are we going to check out “MannyHood” and the A’s at the coliseum?
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
630.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
I ride Ford Mustangs!
Fk the haters!
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I hear that, I am looking for an 02-03 Stang to turn into a monster. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQX3cOAbes for my ‘inspiration’ Thats where a few bonus checks over the next couple of years are headed.
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Can’t see it at work, but I bet it’s a beast!
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DBs Trumaine Johnson and Leonard Johnson would be worth a look with the first compensatory pick.
I like Janzen Jackson would be worth a 6th round flier if he lasts that long. Character concerns, but 5th round compensatory pick or a 6th round pick would be easy to cut ties with if he proves to be a problem in the locker room. SUPER talented kid – 2nd round prospect if Tennessee didn’t dismiss him. Raiders need playmakers badly, and will have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find them.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I think* Janzen Jackson would be worth a 6th round flier
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
684.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr,
So are we going to check out “MannyHood” and the A’s at the coliseum?
Heck yeah! Even if Manny wasn’t coming…that was in the plans! I think Dirt Lot said that he had Yankee tix…maybe we all meet up for that game?
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
684.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr,
So are we going to check out “MannyHood” and the A’s at the coliseum?
Heck yeah! Even if Manny wasn’t coming…that was in the plans! I think Dirt Lot said that he had Yankee tix…maybe we all meet up for that game?
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Let me know.
But 1st things 1st.
Let’s hook up for the Dubs game.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DMAC,
I like Chevy more than Ford, but the Ford Mustang is a beast.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
DMAC,
I just watched it. It’s a beast.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Raider O Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DMAC,
I like Chevy more than Ford, but the Ford Mustang is a beast.
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Can I be a Mustang fan, but not a Ford fan?
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DBs Trumaine Johnson and Leonard Johnson would be worth a look with the first compensatory pick.
I like Janzen Jackson would be worth a 6th round flier if he lasts that long. Character concerns, but 5th round compensatory pick or a 6th round pick would be easy to cut ties with if he proves to be a problem in the locker room. SUPER talented kid – 2nd round prospect if Tennessee didn’t dismiss him. Raiders need playmakers badly, and will have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find them.
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I would think YA, our end of the third round compensatory pick, will be like our first round pick, meaning he must play on ST and be in a rotation on sundays come this fall. He can’t be a pick we groom.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Can’t see it at work, but I bet it’s a beast!
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600+ hp supercharged cobra. The whine from the blower is seriously intoxicating. When I was going to school in NC a friend had built one similar, and I had the opportunity to drive it… lets just say when I build my own, I fully expect to lose my license within about a week… lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
The draft gurus are stating the DB’S are the best overall group in this year’s draft. Let’s hope we find a player, that can play football.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Can’t see it at work, but I bet it’s a beast!
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600+ hp supercharged cobra. The whine from the blower is seriously intoxicating. When I was going to school in NC a friend had built one similar, and I had the opportunity to drive it… lets just say when I build my own, I fully expect to lose my license within about a week… lol
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No man!
You need your L’s.
High speed gettaway!
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Can’t you ride strapped in AZ?
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Sort of.
Don’t see it much though.
Except for the yay-hoos, of course.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
I would think YA, our end of the third round compensatory pick, will be like our first round pick, meaning he must play on ST and be in a rotation on sundays come this fall. He can’t be a pick we groom.
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Agreed, but you’re not going to find too many guys like that at pick #97. The DBs I mentioned should at the very least be able to compete for playing time as nickel DBs, and will be able to contribute on special teams.
LOVE watching Leonard Johnson play. Only DB in college football who was able to compete with both Blackmon and Kendall Wright. Doesn’t have great size or speed, but has everything else. Fearless defender with good closing speed, wrap-up tackler, and even has some skills against the run.
A couple other options for the #97 pick would be Audie Cole, Kendall Reyes, Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, Emmanuel Acho, Jeff Allen, Isaiah Pead, and Nigel Bradham.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
689.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
684.DMAC Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Hwnrdr,
So are we going to check out “MannyHood” and the A’s at the coliseum?
Heck yeah! Even if Manny wasn’t coming…that was in the plans! I think Dirt Lot said that he had Yankee tix…maybe we all meet up for that game?
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Let me know.
But 1st things 1st.
Let’s hook up for the Dubs game.
Yup, will keep you informed!
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
683.Raider Dell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I wish Marley would take the next few days off, it would help us out who are curious about this years draft class.
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What ever happened to Tommy Trojan????
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
DMAC,
The Mustang is one of the reasons why ford had more success in our market than GM & Chrysler.
So to answer your question, why not? I like Mustangs too, I wouldn’t buy one, and enjoy driving them when they work.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
If the Raiders are really intent on finding an impact defender, they’ll have to trade up to at least the early 2nd round.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
YA,
Thanks for the response. I agree finding a dynamic football player at #97 is not realistic, but until I see a trade it’s wait until round three.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I’m not excited over the draft at all.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Hopefully we pull a few trades off and make it interesting.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I’m always excited for the draft. Whether they have 10 picks or 4 picks, #1 or #97, it’s how good teams build for the future.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
The Prez, Jammimg with Buddy Guy, BB King, Mick Jagger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyvgIyS4sm0
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Santourm…..not so much.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
700.J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
683.Raider Dell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I wish Marley would take the next few days off, it would help us out who are curious about this years draft class.
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What ever happened to Tommy Trojan????
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That guy was pretty good. Big McFadden fan too as I recall.
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports that the Packers and free agent C Scott Wells will likely part ways this offseason.
The Packers have reportedly low-balled Wells based on their perception of his market value as an undersized, 31-year-old, zone-blocking center. Green Bay’s center since 2004, Wells made his first Pro Bowl in 2011 and has 46 straight starts. GM Ted Thompson is likely playing his cards right — as usual — but it’s still a bit surprising that the Packers view Wells as so low a priority. The lone in-house replacement would be Evan Dietrich-Smith (three career starts).
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
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Don’t know 2 much about this dude, but he did make the pro bowl.
Zone blocking Center.
Is he an upgrade over Satele?
Will Reggie take a look at him?
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
The only FA center the Raiders should go after is Satele.
I’ve criticized him as much as anyone on here, but there are no clear upgrades available in free agency. Chris Myers is slightly better, but will come with a much steeper price tag.
Satele is at his best when he’s allowed to block in space. If the Raiders intend on doing more of that in 2012, then they’d do well to retain him. He’s young, and has been here for a couple years and seems to have decent chemistry with the guys around him.
If the Raiders are intent on helping the offensive line, they need to start at RT. There won’t be a lot of options in free agency, so their best options are in-house and through the draft. Barksdale and Campbell will both get their chance to earn the spot. Jeff Allen from Illinois is an option in the draft. Very athletic player, good footwork, and an excellent pass protector. Could give the Raiders that “bookend” to pair with Jared Veldheer for the next decade or so. He’s a solid 4th round prospect right now, although a good showing at the combine might move him out of the Raiders’ range.
February 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
What ever happened to Tommy Trojan????
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I thought he was working in ticket sales but I’m not sure. It’s been a long time since I have seen a post from Tomny.
February 22nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
The draft will be exciting and this blog will explode if BigMac trades some players (e.g., DMAC—which I oppose, DHB or Ford, etc…).
Only then will it be exciting.
And per above, Mercedes thinks it’s the Cadillac of cars…Drive Caddy…
And the wages in China are lower (for the commomn unwashed masses), but the purchasing power parity for non-foregin goods is favorable for them.
It’s like 1849 Gold Rush era over…mad money being made and homes are more expensive than San Francisco.
Starbucks and Cold Stone ice cream, however, are the same as in the USA.
Now that ya’ll are caught up with current events, let Bush walk, sign Branch long term, draft Bobby Rainey, and let Travis Ivey start at NT…if he can’t handle he load get Solai from Miami.
February 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Hi Steve,
I’m confused??!!
Where do we go with Rolando McClain??
Is he really any good in your opinion?
February 22nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RGIII, mention’s Ken Stabler as one of the QB’s his dad had him watch….
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7601432
His father is very astute to show him footage of one of the Greatest ever in THE SNAKE….
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
KK Munster, after 4 years of wrecking the economy and making the US a laughing stock Bo will have plenty of time for square dancing and karaoke.
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KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
The Prez, Jammimg with Buddy Guy, BB King, Mick Jagger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyvgIyS4sm0
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Santourm…..not so much.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
714.Thec Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RGIII, mention’s Ken Stabler as one of the QB’s his dad had him watch….
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7601432
His father is very astute to show him footage of one of the Greatest ever in THE SNAKE….
NICE! too bad that we won’t get him…at least this time around!
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hwnrdr, whats going on Bruh?
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Nothing much…almost time to go home! What we call in the islands…Pau hana time!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Pau hana time!!!
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Glad to hear it…I Hope everyone on the blog is doing well…
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
What’s the good word, Thec?
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Anyways…its time to go…be good Nation!
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
What’s the good word, Thec?
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The all new “RAIDER NATION”.
Excited about the org moving into the 21st century, across the board….
Even though we dont have a lot of picks, i look forward to our GM finding REAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS…
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
#710,
Do we really need help on the o-line?
Didn’t seem like Palmer was under much duress.
Maybe the run blocking could use some help?
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
#722,
I think the offense will only get better with Palmer and a full off season and DMAC back.
With the defense getting better…I am convinced it will for the simple fact they were so horrible last year.
I am of the “How much worse could it possibly get?” camp.
If the O is improved even a little bit, and the D elevates to maybe 20-22 ranked than we SHOULD be a better team than this past season.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
703.Raider Dell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
YA,
Thanks for the response. I agree finding a dynamic football player at #97 is not realistic, but until I see a trade it’s wait until round three.
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Remember Tom Brady was a 6th round pick.
We will no doubt find the next Tom Brady this yr.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
No doubt.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
This place is dead.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Raider Dell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DBs Trumaine Johnson and Leonard Johnson would be worth a look with the first compensatory pick.
I like Janzen Jackson would be worth a 6th round flier if he lasts that long.
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I follow Tennessee football pretty closely, which is why I KNEW when we picked up D. Moore he would be a very good player or us. He did even more than I expected though, but what a steal we got.
Anyway, I have the same great feeling about Janzen Jackson. This guy was by ar the best guy in the Vol secondary before getting booted off the team for operating a meth lab or something, but the guy is a hevay hitting beast back there.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
We don’t need the next Tom Brady. We have TP!
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
727.Dakota Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
This place is dead.
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Don’t worry. I’ll stop posting and things will pick up.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Guess I will get back to reading my book. Conqueror by Conn Iggulden…..will Kublai Khan succeed where Genghis failed?
Stay tuned…..
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
#731,
Lol. I’ll be standing by for updates.
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
djohnnyg Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
#722,
I think the offense will only get better with Palmer and a full off season and DMAC back.
With the defense getting better…I am convinced it will for the simple fact they were so horrible last year.
I am of the “How much worse could it possibly get?” camp.
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Yeah, Alot of bad things came together last season on the Defensive side of ball (FATE-WISE). Our main Defensive coach Davis, passed-on mid season. His assitant Chuck Bresnahan was lost without the leadership and grossly underqualified, coming in from UFL, and tried to mix things up increasingly adding zone-coverages as the season progressed.
Our vet D tackle played hurt down the stretch, our MLB got arrested and was in and out of the lineup per injuries.
Also, the new penalties that favor the Offense caused our already flag-beleaguered team to increase its total.
Further, our Offensive minded coach broke the bank on Offensive acquistions and failed to address the Defensive gapping talent holes, particularly in the secondary.
I think Mark Davis has made some stabilizing moves and Reggie Mac should give this org some stability that it lacked as Al Davis becam more physically unable to run the show.
Barring major injuries, this Defense should calm down and be able to improve from last year
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Janzen Jackson*, FS, McNeese State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 180.
Projected 40 Time: 4.40.
Projected Round (2012): FA.
12/31/11: Jackson had 31 tackles with five passes broken up, two interceptions and a forced fumble this year. He need to dominate and show that his personal problems are behind him in order to get drafted. Perhaps Jackson has cleared up his off-the-field problems, but he did not produce a big season against lesser competition.
8/26/11: Janzen Jackson has been dismissed from Tennessee’s program for off-the-field issues, rumored to be positive drug tests. In February, he withdrew from the school to deal with personal problems. He re-enrolled last month, but head coach Derek Dooley dismissed him from the team. Jackson will now have to find a new collegiate home and be productive on the field in order to get drafted into the NFL. Last season, he notched five interceptions with 69 tackles and six passes broken up. In 2009, Jackson started as a freshman next to Eric Berry and recorded 37 tackles with three passes broken up and an interception. Jackson is a fast and physical defender who could have been a third-round pick if he had stayed at Tennessee and improved his production.
Draft him Reggie!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Btw, According to other reports, his weight is 190-195.
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
12.DMAC Says:
February 21st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Sooooooo, if we’re keeping Seymour and we have Houston who could be looking at some time in the middle. Than Kelly should kick rocks. We can sign a real force in the middle w/ this dudes $$.
Base Salary S. Bonus Misc. Bonus
2012 6,000,000 1,857,142 1,035,714
2013 6,500,000 1,857,142 1,035,714
2014 7,000,000 1,857,142 1,035,714
^^^^^^^^
Agreed. I have been saying this for awhile also. If Seymour is staying, than Kelly and his contract need to go also. Raiders have Houston and Bryant who can take Kellys snaps no problem.
They are younger and cheaper. Plus TK plays too high and sucks against the run anyways.
The Raiders can sign a cheaper true NT type or draft one one in the mid rounds.
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
We should also consider CB Omar Bolden.
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Charley Casserly thinks the 40 yd dash at the Combine is overrated. We’d have to agree, yes?
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/09000d5d8271d5f5/article/combine-serves-a-purpose-but-its-influence-is-overrated-?module=HP11_hot_topics
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Jerry’s in Indianapolis…I’m sure we’ll have a new post soon!
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
CB Coryell Judie is another guy to watch for. He is from Texas A&M.
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Don’t think RM will give the same credit to the track stars that AD did. RM will be looking first for football players who can run fast. There IS a difference.
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Yeah, Alot of bad things came together last season on the Defensive side of ball (FATE-WISE). Our main Defensive coach Davis, passed-on mid season. His assitant Chuck Bresnahan was lost without the leadership and grossly underqualified, coming in from UFL, and tried to mix things up increasingly adding zone-coverages as the season progressed.
Our vet D tackle played hurt down the stretch, our MLB got arrested and was in and out of the lineup per injuries.
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You can call Bresnahan a lot of things, but “underqualified” wouldn’t be one of them. He coached our defense in 1983. You of course remember what happened that year.
And, dare I say, liberating any of the coaching staff from Davis’ vengeful and meddlesome eye will be a net positive this coming year.
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
#742
Instead of under-qualified, would incompetent work for you?
Bresnahan was in way over his head and did a lot of stupid things. He made the D worse with his leadership or better yet, lack of leadership.
Remember, no matter what color you paint a turd, it’s still a turd.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
This might be a tad glib, but it seemed like anytime we went zone coverage Offenses threw the ball against us with impunity.
Makes one wonder if they ever practiced zone coverages during the week or just winged it on game day.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
It was not just the Raiders. Think back to the season and all the games that came dowm to the last few minutes of the 4th quarter. It seems like teams with a good two minute offense just seem to be able to put the defense back on thier heels. It is a must to go no huddle and have a good two minute drill.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
This might be a tad glib, but it seemed like anytime we went zone coverage Offenses threw the ball against us with impunity.
Makes one wonder if they ever practiced zone coverages during the week or just winged it on game day.
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They’ve never been good at Zone, for obvious reasons.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
It seems like teams with a good two minute offense just seem to be able to put the defense back on thier heels. It is a must to go no huddle and have a good two minute drill.
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Well, I agree. And, I don’t think in my 45 years or so watching the Raiders, that I’ve ever seen a Raider QB no-huddle as much as Palmer did last year. Yet, they lost 4 of the last 5.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
K2,
Agreed. For years you talked about Al having his grubby fingerprints all over the D.
The only part of the D that didn’t have his fingerprints was the Zone…and that’s because he never touched it.
Nor did any other DC, for that matter.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
But then, Bresnahan calls some kind of Zone down the stretch of the Detroit game, when McClain is covering Megatron 40 yds down the field. Go figure.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I was at the Browns game in 2007 when 11 men dropped back into coverage and let them get the ball to 22….thank god they missed the FG.
Even Kiffin was like, “Dude, where’s my Zone?”
11 men in coverage. Jesus wept…
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Bresnahan No longer had the luxury of Mr. Coach Davis helping him with the gameplan after his unfortunate death.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Can’t remember where I read this but the jist of it was that in todays game you need a great tight end, maybe two.
We carried four tight ends last year, are any of them great?
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
“Let me start with a simple premise that most Oklahomans will understand,” he said, pausing for the punch line. “You cannot put a gun rack on a Volt.”
-Newt Leroy Gingrich.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Can’t remember where I read this but the jist of it was that in todays game you need a great tight end, maybe two.
We carried four tight ends last year, are any of them great?
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Afternoon Fellas,
We’d have to have used them this past season to help make a determination.
We’ll find out in 2012/13.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Scum politicians will say anything when running for office. Why do we even listen?
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
“Let me start with a simple premise that most Oklahomans will understand,” he said, pausing for the punch line. “You cannot put a gun rack on a Volt.”
-Newt Leroy Gingrich.
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I call BS.
A true redneck can find a way around any problem.
Just Google their “inventions” lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Scum politicians will say anything when running for office. Why do we even listen?
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Fact.
Now I’m done with whoring or politics, whichever term you prefer.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
A true redneck can find a way around any problem.
Just Google their “inventions” lol
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There he is!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Gun-rack-in-Volt-screengrab.jpg
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
A true redneck can find a way around any problem.
Just Google their “inventions” lol
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There he is!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Gun-rack-in-Volt-screengrab.jpg
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LMFAO!
You see!
F….me
LOL!
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Hamilton Berger to Perry Mason, “I’m going to get to the ‘TRUE FACTS’”. – circa 1960
anyone misdeunderstandmanatin’ those words is political.
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
KoolKell thinks there are good politicians (Democrats) and evil politicians (Republicans).
To me they are all the same. Lies, war, taxes and counterfeit money.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Hamilton Berger to Perry Mason, “I’m going to get to the ‘TRUE FACTS’”. – circa 1960
anyone misdeunderstandmanatin’ those words is political.
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I admit I had to read it twice.
Spot on.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Democracy, Bro.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Democracy is a total failure.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Not going down the Political road.
I’d like to see Knapp utilize more 2 TE sets this season.
I like all 4 we have on the current roster.
Boss and Meyer could be legit.
I’m also intrigued by Ausberry.
Gordon is a Load, but so far limited in the receiving part of His game.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
MistaBrown Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
KK Munster, after 4 years of wrecking the economy and making the US a laughing stock Bo will have plenty of time for square dancing and karaoke.
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The economy is clearly recovering. There is no doubt about that. And that is with the conservatives doing everything possible to further tank the economy. Why anyone would cast one vote in their direction is stupefying.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Democracy is a total failure.
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I don’t know if I would say it is a total failure, but at this juncture there needs to be changes. Maybe a French style revolution where oligarchists are beheaded.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Democracy is a total failure.
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It’s better than anything else. And, like I’ve been told by my “light-skinned” brothers many, many times. You can’t always blame society for your problems.
Get an education
Take responsibility for your own life
etc, etc, etc…………..
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Representative Republic is not Democracy.
Just sayin.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
“Let me start with a simple premise that most Oklahomans will understand,” he said, pausing for the punch line. “You cannot put a gun rack on a Volt.”
-Newt Leroy Gingrich.
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Guns, God and Gays. The perennial battle mantra of the conservatives as soon as they start losing. This hasn’t changed in 25 years. Sad that they have no answers to a 21st century planet.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
The economy is not clearly recovering, the debt is increasing to the point that the entire GDP of the world could not pay it off. Seymour, you are living in denial.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Take responsibility for your own life
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My Golden Rule.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The one or 2 times they threw Gordon the ball, he looked pretty good to me. Absolute beast of a blocker.
Agree, we need to go with more 2 TE sets.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Well, maybe Republican Trans-V@ginal Probe requirements, will pickup the economy?
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I thought Gordon looked like a keeper as a FB.
Not sure about a TE, may be too one-dimensional to be any type of player that recieves considerable snaps.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
I was at the Browns game in 2007 when 11 men dropped back into coverage and let them get the ball to 22….thank god they missed the FG.
Even Kiffin was like, “Dude, where’s my Zone?”
11 men in coverage. Jesus wept…
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The genius of Rob Ryan.
Drop 11 in coverage, and still give up a completion and let the WR get out of bounds.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The one or 2 times they threw Gordon the ball, he looked pretty good to me. Absolute beast of a blocker.
Agree, we need to go with more 2 TE sets.
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How you been J Hill?
I read your gonna flip some Autos.
I hope you can find a nice little profit center there.
Ya, I really do see good attributes in all the current TE.
If Gordon can take another step,(given the opportunity) he could be beastly.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
When the Chinese and Russians succeed in convincing the oil producing nations to only accept gold for oil and the dollar loses it status as the reserve currency our standard of living will fall to below third world status.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
LOL at 778
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China is pot-committed, as a huge investor in American treasuries, to the USA being fiscal sound and fully fuctional.
The only thing that probably could bring down China, is us going down first. We are joined at the hip.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I thought Gordon looked like a keeper as a FB.
Not sure about a TE, may be too one-dimensional to be any type of player that recieves considerable snaps.
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He has to demonstrate that He can get separation and catch the ball… consistently.
Don’t know how much of an opportunity he’ll get.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Jhill- I have purchased my last 3 cars at auctions here in Reno.. I’m driving a Ford Explorer that I paid $1000 for five years ago.. I’ll never buy a car again any other way.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
More 2 TE sets? At the expense of…? DHB? Ford? Moore?
No thanks.
Balance in everything. No need to force “more” of something just for the sake of doing it more often.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Jhill- I have purchased my last 3 cars at auctions here in Reno.. I’m driving a Ford Explorer that I paid $1000 for five years ago.. I’ll never buy a car again any other way.
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Way to go Plunk!
I’ve never done it, but I respect a good Business transaction. lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
“When the Chinese and Russians succeed in convincing the oil producing nations to only accept gold for oil…”
would be the day the USA would acquire all the gold needed.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Alex7 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
More 2 TE sets? At the expense of…? DHB? Ford? Moore?
No thanks.
Balance in everything. No need to force “more” of something just for the sake of doing it more often.
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We had pretty much nothing of this last year.
So how about finding from game to game the match ups that best exploit the other Team.
See the difference?
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
When the Chinese and Russians succeed in convincing the oil producing nations to only accept gold for oil and the dollar loses it status as the reserve currency our standard of living will fall to below third world status.
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Really, c’mon man. Lol. Dude?
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The game is about matchups.
What kind of match-up advantages do Eric Gordon and Myers create?
Not a lot.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Alex7 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
“When the Chinese and Russians succeed in convincing the oil producing nations to only accept gold for oil…”
would be the day the USA would acquire all the gold needed.
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You know, as F….up as things are, I wouldn’t doubt this.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The game is about matchups.
What kind of match-up advantages do Eric Gordon and Myers create?
Not a lot.
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Gotta give Knapp an opportunity to see if he can find them.
Of the 4 TE’s on the roster, if we are looking at receiving attributes, the best 2 TE set would be Boss and Ausberry.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
First it was Saddam Hussein who floated the idea of only accepting gold for oil. He was invaded and hung.
Next it was Mommar Khadafy that proposed the same idea, he has been disposed of.
Now it is Iran than threatens the dollar. War is imminent.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
First it was Saddam Hussein who floated the idea of only accepting gold for oil. He was invaded and hung.
Next it was Mommar Khadafy that proposed the same idea, he has been disposed of.
Now it is Iran than threatens the dollar. War is imminent.
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Could you provide a link?
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
First it was Saddam Hussein who floated the idea of only accepting gold for oil. He was invaded and hung.
Next it was Mommar Khadafy that proposed the same idea, he has been disposed of.
Now it is Iran than threatens the dollar. War is imminent.
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Though these observations come from the conspiracy view, (discounted by MSM) what you say is true.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Our good buddies of Israel can handle Iran for us with no problems.
As long as O’Bummer doesn’t piss off our good buddies too much.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Len, do you live in a rural area, may I ask?
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Why are we talking politics???
Dammit, you lured me in.
Do we move Wiz to Center or not?
I think he could be an elite Guard, and a slightly above average center.
Centers are more valuable though, and harder to find.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Our good buddies of Israel can handle Iran for us with no problems.
As long as O’Bummer doesn’t piss off our good buddies too much.
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Which is the tail, which is the dog?
From what I read, Israel want’s to do the deed.
We have the “Public” position of restraint.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Len, do you live in a rural area, may I ask?
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Born in San Mateo, raised and still live in Fremont.
51 yrs old.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The Prez has done himself, and us well, as Commander in Chief.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
KoolKell, why do I need a link, it is history. Do you need someone from the MSM to verify what you can see with your own eyes?
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Alrighty then Len.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Why are we talking politics???
Dammit, you lured me in.
Do we move Wiz to Center or not?
I think he could be an elite Guard, and a slightly above average center.
Centers are more valuable though, and harder to find.
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I get sucked in too.
That’s why the age old warnings about discussing “religion and politics” is what it is.
Centers are more valuable. I say find another good O-lineman at G or C and figure it out from there.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Linsanity is putting it on the Hawks.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
KoolKell, why do I need a link, it is history. Do you need someone from the MSM to verify what you can see with your own eyes?
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Doesn’t need to be an MSM link. This is the internet son. Is there any scholarship that points to Khaddfy and Huessein were killed because, the world is not on a Gold Standard? That’s all. Lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
The Prez is killing Arabs if that is what you mean. Arab men, women and children. Heil Hitler!
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
I wonder what Young Wiz’s wants.
Centers make more money, and get more pub.
But, he has played most of his life at Guard, his uncle was a Raider guard, and he seems more comfortable there.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Len, do you live in a rural area, may I ask?
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What was the purpose of the question?
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
KoolKell, why do I need a link, it is history. Do you need someone from the MSM to verify what you can see with your own eyes?
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Nahhhh, those are your eyes.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
KollKell, google the “petro dollar”. Look at the history of the US and Saudi Arabia. Do your own research.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
I wonder what Young Wiz’s wants.
Centers make more money, and get more pub.
But, he has played most of his life at Guard, his uncle was a Raider guard, and he seems more comfortable there.
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He’ll probably would not admit His preference now,( publicly) if he has one.
At the end of the day, if He gets to the Pro Bowl, He’ll get His.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
How you been J Hill?
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Good, Len.
Thanks for asking. Hope all is well on your end.
Yeah, I like our TE group. Don’t think we need 4 of them though. I like Gordon and Ausberry the most.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Len, do you live in a rural area, may I ask?
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What was the purpose of the question?
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With regard to the conspiracy theories, I thought you were maybe out in the boonies, with limited access to information. forgive me.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I thought Gordon looked like a keeper as a FB.
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Goal line, ok fine.
Too big to be a FB. I thought you were against position changes.
Leave the beast at TE.
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
KollKell, google the “petro dollar”. Look at the history of the US and Saudi Arabia. Do your own research.
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Allegedly negotiated by Kissinger.
I know where you are coming from.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Surely people conspire, why does the word even exist?
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I thought you were against position changes.
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I don’t like on the job training, but Gordon seemed like a fast learner.
Ol’ Hue had more confidence in him at the beginning of the year as a FB, over Tonga.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
With regard to the conspiracy theories, I thought you were maybe out in the boonies, with limited access to information. forgive me.
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LOL!
I really did just belly laugh.
Thanks Kell!
Christ I’m still laughing as I type this.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
778.Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
When the Chinese and Russians succeed in convincing the oil producing nations to only accept gold for oil and the dollar loses it status as the reserve currency our standard of living will fall to below third world status.
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I would think that would somehow translate to an act of war and you’d see the start of World War … what # are we on, 7?
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
How you been J Hill?
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Good, Len.
Thanks for asking. Hope all is well on your end.
Yeah, I like our TE group. Don’t think we need 4 of them though. I like Gordon and Ausberry the most.
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We’re good on this end.
So you like the youngsters.
I’m open to whatever Reggie and coaches think is best.
Could save a few bucks without Meyer and Boss.
Gordon has to show me a bit more though.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
I’m driving a Ford Explorer that I paid $1000 for five years ago..
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I hear you mayne.
I need to get into that car game.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Why would it be an act of war to not want to accept our worthless paper money?
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Surely people conspire, why does the word even exist?
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It’s human nature.
I often conspired when I was very young, to stay out of trouble, or to get what I wanted.
It was a response to authority, and how to get around it.
Some conspirators never grow up…lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
More 2 TE sets? At the expense of…? DHB? Ford? Moore?
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I wouldn’t say expense.
Last year, all of those guys were hurt at one point while at least 3 of the TEs were always healthy.
Gordon is a good enough blocker to be an everydown TE, imo. I thought he looked good catching the ball and running routes the VERY FEW times his number was called.
Ausberry and Reece would be matchup nightmares for LBs and Ss from the TE position.
I’ve been told that Boss is a 6′7 matchup nightmare.
I think there is actual talent at the TE position and there should certainly be some pages in the playbook dedicated to multiple TEs.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
There have been many paper currencies in history, they all end up worthless.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
The game is about matchups.
What kind of match-up advantages do Eric Gordon and Myers create?
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Eric Gordon will win most blocking matchups.
His size??? You do realize positioning and using your size to gain space is a skill too, right.
I’d bet a lineup with Gordon and Ausberry in it would force more LBs or Ss on the field for the defense. Pretty sure that would translate to an easier time for the 2 WRs on the field. If they come with an extra DB, we run.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
More 2 TE sets? At the expense of…? DHB? Ford? Moore?
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I wouldn’t say expense.
Last year, all of those guys were hurt at one point while at least 3 of the TEs were always healthy.
Gordon is a good enough blocker to be an everydown TE, imo. I thought he looked good catching the ball and running routes the VERY FEW times his number was called.
Ausberry and Reece would be matchup nightmares for LBs and Ss from the TE position.
I’ve been told that Boss is a 6′7 matchup nightmare.
I think there is actual talent at the TE position and there should certainly be some pages in the playbook dedicated to multiple TEs.
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My name is RaiderLen, and I endorse this observation.
Agree 100%
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Okay, I’m through. I know I am a pain when I get on these rants.
But in my defense, I will steal a phrase from Butch Cassidy, “I have 20-20 and the rest of the world wears bi-focals.”
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
would be the day the USA would acquire all the gold needed.
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You know, as F….up as things are, I wouldn’t doubt this.
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All dem big guns we have????
Warships the size of a small city????
LOL at the thought of trying to take the US’s seat away from the table.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
There have been many paper currencies in history, they all end up worthless.
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It’s because the paper is be based. It has nothing tied to it like for instance ….gold.
It’s called a Fiat currency.
Average life span….I think is 70 years.
I could be wrong on this point.
We tied our Fiat currency to OIL with the Saudis etc.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
First it was Saddam Hussein who floated the idea of only accepting gold for oil. He was invaded and hung.
Next it was Mommar Khadafy that proposed the same idea, he has been disposed of.
Now it is Iran than threatens the dollar. War is imminent.
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Yeah, you already see the propoganda starting.
Iran is close to developing Nukes, they say.
Stay tuned.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Do we move Wiz to Center or not?
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If we could get a more physical RG, I’d be fine with leaving Satele at C and Wiz at LG.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
would be the day the USA would acquire all the gold needed.
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You know, as F….up as things are, I wouldn’t doubt this.
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All dem big guns we have????
Warships the size of a small city????
LOL at the thought of trying to take the US’s seat away from the table.
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It’s true, in spite of all the BS, we are still the biggest, baddest MOFO on the block.
We can be much better.
Our International Arrogance needs to hit the road though.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Boss is the tallest receiver we have. He DOES have good ands. He’s only making $2M which by today’s standards is not a lot of compensation for a productive veteran.
Last year, for whatever reasons, the TE was not being used for other than a blocker. That was a bad decision on Hue’s part. The TE can easily be CP’s best friend this year and a most effective red zone receiver. Do we need 4 of them? Probably not but one of them has been BU-FB and the other hardly saw the field but may have the best upside – Ausberry. I guess we could ask the Pats if 4 TE’s are too many. But, the real answer is that it depends on how they are going to be used. I can see Ausberry as a “tweener” between WR & TE – playing both positions at times. Until we get bigger (taller) WR’s I’d say keeping Boss is a must. If there were to be an odd man out, I’d pick Myers.
If you look at our receiver corp for 2012 (omitting FA & draft picks after the fact) it looks like:
• D-Wow (2)
• DHB (4)
• Jacoby Ford (3)
• Eddie McGee (1)
• Derrick Jones (R)
• Louis Murphy (4)
The last three on this list are on the bubble. Personally, I’d like to see what TJones could do running out of the slot. He could be our Wes Welker.
Tight End line-up looks like:
• Kevin Boss (6)
• Brandon Myers (4)
• Richard Gordon (2)
• David Ausberry (2)
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
First it was Saddam Hussein who floated the idea of only accepting gold for oil. He was invaded and hung.
Next it was Mommar Khadafy that proposed the same idea, he has been disposed of.
Now it is Iran than threatens the dollar. War is imminent.
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Yeah, you already see the propoganda starting.
Iran is close to developing Nukes, they say.
Stay tuned.
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That’s how they do what they do.
Gotta have a “bad guy” to Justify.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Could save a few bucks without Meyer and Boss.
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I think we need to keep 3 of them.
Or, we could just go with 5 WRs if we are going to keep 4 TEs.
Is Reece moving to another position, or will Knapp keep him at FB?
We might actually have 5 TEs, lol.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
If we could get a more physical RG
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Savage is still in the mix my friend.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Only a retard or a troll would make a statement this ridiculous. Or both
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KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
The Prez has done himself, and us well, as Commander in Chief.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
With our new regime in place, I believe drafting Kellen Moore is much more likely.
Not that I think he will is talented enough, but tough to argue against his production collegiately, and presents great “value” as a 5th or 6th rounder.
I am all about value
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Why would it be an act of war to not want to accept our worthless paper money?
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The actual act of war is going to be something related to Nukes.
The reason behind the propoganda will be the attempted removal of the US from the seat at the table.
You really think the US would just “go for that”???
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Do we move Wiz to Center or not?
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If we could get a more physical RG, I’d be fine with leaving Satele at C and Wiz at LG.
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My vote is Wiz to center. Resign FA Heyer and put him at LG. Barksdale to RG and pick up Gaither from FA to run at RT.
Satele would be OK as a BU-C. If they want to keep Carlisle as a BU-OG I could live with that and I could even accept Barnes as BU-OT. I’m not familiar with any other OL BU’s we might already have under contract. There might be some talent there that would be a better choice over Barnes, Carlisle & Satele.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
JB Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
#742
Instead of under-qualified, would incompetent work for you?
Bresnahan was in way over his head and did a lot of stupid things. He made the D worse with his leadership or better yet, lack of leadership.
Remember, no matter what color you paint a turd, it’s still a turd.
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Yes, it would. Underqualified suggests a lack of prior experience.
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Goldie7 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Bresnahan No longer had the luxury of Mr. Coach Davis helping him with the gameplan after his unfortunate death.
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Only in your prayers, bible boy.
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Savage is still in the mix my friend.
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What are you going to do when Beast Campbell beats him out?
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Yeah, like I said …
Not trading GaSTUD or Bynum.
Use the trade exception to get Beasly.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Savage is still in the mix my friend.
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What are you going to do when Beast Campbell beats him out?
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LOL!
Man I hope that would be the case.
JFB had a question or two answered in Corks last chat.
I think it had to do with the lifespan of B Campbell and ?
I think he was looking for an affirmation to justify Savage.
Feel free to rebut JFB..lol
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Holy cr*@. I just realized that Jason Tarver, our DC, is Jason – son of my dad’s best friend who has always been an up and coming coach. I’ve known him since he was a kid. Thought that whole molecular biology thing sounded familiar.
Way to go Jason!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Yeah, like I said …
Not trading GaSTUD or Bynum.
Use the trade exception to get Beasly.
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I don’t like the Lakers, but getting Beasly would be a good move…imo.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
I think I got 3 questions in to Corky on the last chat.
One was along the lines of when are they going to cut DVD and Bruce Campbell, because they stink.
I was told they will get a look in camp, but our definately on the hot seat.
How about BSJ sneaking in a trade value of Condo Q, and also the somewhat toungue-in-cheek Q of D-Mac losing credibility in the locker room for not taking a shot, and Cork completely confirming it?
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Until the Lakers find a PG, they have ZERO chance of doing anything in the playoffs.
Didn’t they get swept last year in the playoffs, and got housed by like 30 points the last few games?
What has changed? Mike Brown? Gaudolock or whatever?
Get the F outta here!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:11 pm
The Dubs are only 5.5 games behind the Lakers, and we are trimming a game off that tonight!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
That’s Goudelock!
For threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
LOL at worse bench in the league propoganda.
Yeah, when Artest was coming off the bench and Blake was hurt.
How long ago was that????
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
I think I got 3 questions in to Corky on the last chat.
One was along the lines of when are they going to cut DVD and Bruce Campbell, because they stink.
I was told they will get a look in camp, but our definately on the hot seat.
How about BSJ sneaking in a trade value of Condo Q, and also the somewhat toungue-in-cheek Q of D-Mac losing credibility in the locker room for not taking a shot, and Cork completely confirming it?
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Because they stink…that’s right!
I did see BSJ and the whole Condo routine, and I think Cork did confirm in the case of DMAC without naming Names.
You do realize I hope JFB, it’s better for the Raiders long term if Beast kicks Savage to the curb in an open competition…Agree?
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:28 pm
So DVD stinks and is on the hot seat???
LOL!
This stuff is funny.
Chekwa and his stiff hips are are starter material, eh?
All this based on what?
You really think Corky has gotten a peak at Allen and Tarver’s scheme on D and how our2 rookies fit into that?
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
You do realize I hope JFB, it’s better for the Raiders long term if Beast kicks Savage to the curb in an open competition…Agree?
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Open competition, sure.
But I don’t think you just hand the reins to him week 1, even if he has been a tad better in the preseason.
He has to prove he can be better than Savage, in December, and well, that won’t be easy to do.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
You do realize I hope JFB, it’s better for the Raiders long term if Beast kicks Savage to the curb in an open competition…Agree?
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Open competition, sure.
But I don’t think you just hand the reins to him week 1, even if he has been a tad better in the preseason.
He has to prove he can be better than Savage, in December, and well, that won’t be easy to do.
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Say’s you.
Savage is a declining “asset”
Beast is a prospective “comer”
If He win’s the Job in August, December will take care of itself.
As much as I bag on Carlisle, I actually respect what He has done, I just want better from that spot, as well as C and RT.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
even if he has been a tad better in the preseason.
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Yes you do.
Especially if the guy is better than Savage by even the slimest margain. Heck, if he’s his equal or slightly under him, I start him. Have to assume that the game experience will make him a better player.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
You really think Corky has gotten a peak at Allen and Tarver’s scheme on D and how our2 rookies fit into that?
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This to me is a part of what makes all of this fun.
Finding out how this new group can of coaches can put together something better than what we’ve had.
On the D side, pretty easy hurdle.
Knapp on the O side has to ring the end zone bell as well or better or we might hear about Hue all Season.
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
even if he has been a tad better in the preseason.
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Yes you do.
Especially if the guy is better than Savage by even the slimest margain. Heck, if he’s his equal or slightly under him, I start him. Have to assume that the game experience will make him a better player.
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Agree.
Game experience = sink or swim.
I bet Campbell gets better.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
When the Chinese and Russians succeed in convincing the oil producing nations to only accept gold for oil and the dollar loses it status as the reserve currency our standard of living will fall to below third world status.
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That has already happened. You are years behind.
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Cork = slacker
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Zzzzzzzzzz Herrera zzzzzzzz Burp zzzzzzzzzzz
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Just read this on twitter…
RaidersCentralUpdate
Big #Raider Player Release Coming Soon as stated By Dennis Allen New HC ..Hmmm could it be Huff or Seymour or McClain Or Even Branch
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
What do you think about the new Raider Helmet concepts. I really like ‘em. If the new regime is bent on murdering all things Al, they might as well update the logo. Just keep the colors.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fourteen85/6911934853/in/set-72157629428932925/
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
862.DT42 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
What do you think about the new Raider Helmet concepts. I really like ‘em. If the new regime is bent on murdering all things Al, they might as well update the logo. Just keep the colors.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fourteen85/6911934853/in/set-72157629428932925/
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Cool as sht.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
I think we should go Oregon Duck style and chrome one out with the logo. Keep the colors and change all of the helmets out for different games.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
>>>
The genius of Rob Ryan.
Drop 11 in coverage, and still give up a completion and let the WR get out of bounds.
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I’ll never forget that play… I was thinking at the time “WTF is Sapp running backwards for???” It actually might have worked except someone took off from his assignment… which, besides missed tackles, was SOB’s forte as a DC with the Raiders.
I still can’t believe he has a job as DC.. he is ranked in the bottom third of the NFL in defense for his career.
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
BTW.. Greg Knapp is ranked in the 44th percentile as a career as OC.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/KnapGr0.htm
Its kind of why so many of us freaked out at the hire…
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Gdog Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
BTW.. Greg Knapp is ranked in the 44th percentile as a career as OC.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/KnapGr0.htm
Its kind of why so many of us freaked out at the hire…
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He accumulated that ranking working for Dennis Erickson, “Lance” Kiffin, Steve Mariucci and Jim Mora, Jr. How many of those guys are still in the league?
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Gdog Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
BTW.. Greg Knapp is ranked in the 44th percentile as a career as OC.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/KnapGr0.htm
Its kind of why so many of us freaked out at the hire…
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He accumulated that ranking working for Dennis Erickson, “Lance” Kiffin, Steve Mariucci and Jim Mora, Jr. How many of those guys are still in the league?
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Let me rephrase that: How many of those guys are coaching on ANY level?
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Based on that logic Rob Ryan must be a good DC since teams keep offering him jobs.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
861.wasbanned Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Just read this on twitter…
RaidersCentralUpdate
Big #Raider Player Release Coming Soon as stated By Dennis Allen New HC ..Hmmm could it be Huff or Seymour or McClain Or Even Branch
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Are these people who know anything about anything?
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
#870,
Watch it be Carson Palmer.
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Jon Gruden and B Cowher are not currently working in the NFL, or coaching at any level, so should we question their coaching skills?
February 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 pm
870,
You can’t release a FA. Branch is a FA.
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Slow day.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:20 am
My money on the cut is Wimbley, if there is any validity to that rumor.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:20 am
My money on the cut is Wimbley, if there is any validity to that rumor.
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On the one hand, Wimbley is a skilled pass rusher. On the other hand, if he’s loudly refusing to restructure, cutting him would reinforce the message sent by Routt’s release: Nobody in charge now cares how much Al loved you. You play ball with management or you’re gone.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:27 am
DT42 Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
What do you think about the new Raider Helmet concepts. I really like ‘em. If the new regime is bent on murdering all things Al, they might as well update the logo. Just keep the colors.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fourteen85/6911934853/in/set-72157629428932925/
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What exactly do you mean by “murdering all things Al?”
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:33 am
RaiderDuck, those helmets are awful. Most of these modern uniform designs are sh*t. Don’t mess with the classics.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 am
Mark Clemens Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:33 am
RaiderDuck, those helmets are awful. Most of these modern uniform designs are sh*t. Don’t mess with the classics.
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My comments were on the bottom. I’m not advocating changing ANYTHING about the unis.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 am
THANKS BUT NO THANKS ON HELMET CONCEPT..
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:53 am
Ok, now I cannot friggen post on here anymore…???
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:54 am
Geez, I said Good Morning and it hit me the duplicate comment BS!!! What, it detected it from yesterday???
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 am
I don’t think Wimbley is as passionate about football as McKenzie and Allen want their defenders to be.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
I liked Wimbley when he made $3 million per year. I don’t like Wimbley for $11 million per year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
PASSION INSTEAD OF $$ JFB.PASSION AND RESPECT 4 THE GAME ..
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:37 am
Wimbley makes as much as Suggs… Wimbley had 63 tackles, 7 sacks, 4 passes defensed, 1 int, 0 forced fumbles. Suggs had 70 tackles, 14 sacks, 8 passes defensed, 2 Ints and 7 forced fumbles.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:37 am
885.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
PASSION INSTEAD OF $$ JFB.PASSION AND RESPECT 4 THE GAME ..
I miss those days!
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:45 am
0 forced fumbles, from your “premier” edge rusher.
Horrendous!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:53 am
I think Suggs had more forced fumbles than our whole defense.
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 am
Yeah, I’d take Suggs over Wimbley.
Is he available???
No???
Who’s going to replace him?
How much will we have to pay him?
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:34 am
I think we can replace Wimbley’s “production” through the schemes of our molecular biologist DC.
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:55 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:55 am
890.J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 am
Yeah, I’d take Suggs over Wimbley.
Is he available???
No???
Who’s going to replace him?
How much will we have to pay him?
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I wasn’t comparing the two because I was thinking we should replace Wimbley with suggs, I was comparing them to show the difference in production for the same salary.
I like Wimbley, but not at 11 mill, and considering 4 of his 7 sacks came against at LT that made kwame or super mario look like pro bowlers, Id say it shouldnt be hard to replace his production.
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 am
Sup ray
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 am
good morning AM crew!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
Seems O hit a nerve questioning RRS’s work ethic… he hasn’t been here at all today
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BCZ,
I took the day off yesterday and so did my wife. It was 65 degrees and sunny in Podunk! we kept our son home instead of sending him to the babysitters. Took him to Bass Pro. went to Hemingway’s for breakfast.
purchased and installed a new ceiling fan. went a few places to price tile flooring. I’m gonna rip out the carpet in a few rooms of the house next month and take care of a few things on the “honey do” list
back to work today and spent the first 2 hours playing CATCH UP
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
sup Rock. Busy day yesterday?
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:09 am
Raiders won’t sign this guy or that guy cuz of $.?
I do miss the days when that wasn’t even a concern. Al would pay whatever to get who he wanted.
Perfect scenario is spend like Al but spend it on the right players.
80% of the conversation on here lately is how Raiders can build a team on a shoestring budget.
The cap (as noted by Cork) is easily manipulated with extending years; spreading it out, etc.
We’ve seen it in baseball, and all penny pinching gets you is the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Youy either have the $ to play with the big boys or you find another business to get into.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:09 am
Issus this morning, but I’m back
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
BCZ, it’s going brother….gonna get ready here in about an hour to head out, side work to do!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 am
RaiderDuck Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:27 am
What exactly do you mean by “murdering all things Al?”
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First relax, to me there were certain things that seperated the Raiders from everyone else. It didn’t matter if you liked it or not. It was unmistakable that it was Silver and Black. Now i’m not going to debate if those things were right or wrong. The fact is that I liked it. Every team has certain things that make that team unique.
Mark Davis, McKenzie, and Allen are moving away from that. At first I was pi$$ed but when I thought about it. The bottom line is that its their team and they can go in any direction they want. Fact is that I’m just a fan. Either I accept it or move to another team. So I accept it. But lets be honest, in two years anything that made the Raiders “Al Davis’ Raiders” will be gone. I’m not going to debate it that’s just fact. In two years this team will look and act more like the Atlanta Falcons under Dan Reaves than the Raiders that we know now. I hope that it results in more wins and a SB ring becuase I’m a Raider fan. So I say new approach to the way the Raiders do business, why not new approach to uniforms too.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 am
Got to say, I am pretty geeked at having some real chess players on our sidelines.
Dennis Allen is a chess player, been known for it. Even looks like one with the dorky visor he wears.
Tarver is from Stanford, is a total egghead, and will emerge as an elite chess player.
Knapp….well he isn’t top-tier, but he can play the game, he has proven that.
When you look at those that preceeded them. Art Shell, Rob Ryan, Tom Cable, Hue Jackson, Chuck B……I mean forget playing chess, did these guys even know how to setup the pieces?
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 am
We cut Carson Palmer? Fk what a waste!
We better be bringing back JC then. We can’t roll with TP all year!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
I’m sure you guys can acknowledge that Wimbley has some pretty good skills. Maybe not Suggs like, but he’s pretty good at some things, right?
Why not trust the chess players to recognize the strengths of players like Wimbley and Curry and trust that they will put them in a position to do what they do best?
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 am
I do miss the days when that wasn’t even a concern. Al would pay whatever to get who he wanted.
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I gotta ask, when did this ever work for us?
To my knowledge, when Al was killing it in the 70’s and early 80’s, he wasn’t outspending everybody, and there was no salary cap to manage. He was simply scoring great trades like the Haynes trade, and knocking the draft out of the park.
Since Al started bucking the trend on the salary cap, and overpaying and consistantly mortgaging the future for the present, is what got us in this hole we are trying to dig out from.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 am
johnnyg Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:09 am
Raiders won’t sign this guy or that guy cuz of $.?
I do miss the days when that wasn’t even a concern. Al would pay whatever to get who he wanted.
Perfect scenario is spend like Al but spend it on the right players.
80% of the conversation on here lately is how Raiders can build a team on a shoestring budget.
The cap (as noted by Cork) is easily manipulated with extending years; spreading it out, etc.
We’ve seen it in baseball, and all penny pinching gets you is the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Youy either have the $ to play with the big boys or you find another business to get into.
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What has all that spending gotten us? You know our record since the bowl debacle. Right now we are in a position where all that spending and manipulating the cap has finally caught up. Do we mortgage more years and continue the trends that clearly aren’t working or do we bite the bullet and become a more fiscally sound team so that we don’t have do all these restructures and pay out ridiculous bonuses or WAY overpay players to get them here or have to deal with huge ‘dead money’ numbers. The Packers dont make huge FA splashes, they are competitive every year. The Patriots? Always under the cap, AND have the highest paid QB in football on the roster, AND have the most draft picks every year AND win at least 10 games a year. Being smart doesnt mean being cheap and not trying to win.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 am
JFB,
Nice take. It’s true.
We have some smart cookies on the sideline. Young, bright minds who’ll be allowed to be the best they can be without having their talents being squelched.
That’s a part of the ‘new Raiders’ i’m looking forward to.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 am
904.J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
I’m sure you guys can acknowledge that Wimbley has some pretty good skills. Maybe not Suggs like, but he’s pretty good at some things, right?
Why not trust the chess players to recognize the strengths of players like Wimbley and Curry and trust that they will put them in a position to do what they do best?
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Because our chess pieces are all pawns.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
The only FA center the Raiders should go after is Satele.
I’ve criticized him as much as anyone on here, but there are no clear upgrades available in free agency. Chris Myers is slightly better, but will come with a much steeper price tag.
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YA,
Myers is only “slightly better” than Satele ???
I never thought I’d say this to you, but please have your head examined bro. Myers is about a gazillion times better than Satele. It’s not even close
I understand you wanting to save a few bucks. I’m with you on that. When you have an opportunity to bring Myers in (the best ZBS Center in the league) and reunite him with Knapp & Pollack, you’ve got to at least consider it!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
but he’s pretty good at some things, right?
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The man can destroy inferior tackles with the best of them.
I will give him that. Great job at smelling the chum in the water.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
Dakota Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 am
We cut Carson Palmer? Fk what a waste!
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Come on Dakota, usually you at least post a fake link… your slacking brother!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:23 am
Got to say, I am pretty geeked at having some real chess players on our sidelines.
Dennis Allen is a chess player, been known for it. Even looks like one with the dorky visor he wears.
Tarver is from Stanford, is a total egghead, and will emerge as an elite chess player.
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I know DA is well respected in the league as a coach, but I didn’t hear anything about him being a chess player.
How do you know that? Please don’t say it’s the visor and Stanford. lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 am
but he’s pretty good at some things, right?
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LOL, he is awesome at getting caught from behind by fat offensive lineman. LOL
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:26 am
“Chess player” is metaphorical speaking
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
911.bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
Dakota Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 am
We cut Carson Palmer? Fk what a waste!
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Come on Dakota, usually you at least post a fake link… your slacking brother!
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Hey, a guy has to get a little work in during the day too….give me a break!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
My point on the spending is to be willing to spend it, but doing it the right way and on the right guys.
That’s what i’m saying. Al just wasted millions and millions on garbage.
Now we have smart guys that would do much better with all that $.
Al’s over spending on garbage has put us in somewhat of a tuff spot it seems, but their is always risk involved in building a successful “business” and I just hope Reggie and Mark aren’t so $ concious that they pass on guys who can obviously help the team becuz of being worried they may not work out.
That’s a defeatest way of going about business.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
Janzen Jackson*, FS, McNeese State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 180.
Projected 40 Time: 4.40.
Projected Round (2012): FA.
12/31/11: Jackson had 31 tackles with five passes broken up, two interceptions and a forced fumble this year. He need to dominate and show that his personal problems are behind him in order to get drafted. Perhaps Jackson has cleared up his off-the-field problems, but he did not produce a big season against lesser competition.
8/26/11: Janzen Jackson has been dismissed from Tennessee’s program for off-the-field issues, rumored to be positive drug tests. In February, he withdrew from the school to deal with personal problems. He re-enrolled last month, but head coach Derek Dooley dismissed him from the team. Jackson will now have to find a new collegiate home and be productive on the field in order to get drafted into the NFL. Last season, he notched five interceptions with 69 tackles and six passes broken up. In 2009, Jackson started as a freshman next to Eric Berry and recorded 37 tackles with three passes broken up and an interception. Jackson is a fast and physical defender who could have been a third-round pick if he had stayed at Tennessee and improved his production.
Great job YA.
Draft him Reggie!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
The Tampa Tribune believes free agent Michael Bush’s skill set “could be intriguing” to the Buccaneers.
The Bucs figure to be one of free agency’s most aggressive teams this year. Despite the presence of LeGarrette Blount, the Tribune has now connected the team to a pair of big backs in Bush and Mike Tolbert because they can play on third downs and convert in short-yardage situations.
Related: Buccaneers
Source: Tampa Tribune
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The Cincinnati Enquirer’s Joe Reedy lists Michael Bush, Mario Manningham, and Robert Meachem as the three free agents most likely to draw an offer from the Bengals.
The team’s top priority is believed to be re-signing FS Reggie Nelson, but the Bengals have the salary cap room to plug holes at running back and wide receiver as well. Profootballtalk’s Gregg Rosenthal astutely pointed out that Bush may have cemented his 2012 role as a complementary back after fading under a heavy workload in the final six weeks of the season.
Related: Bengals, Robert Meachem, Mario Manningham
Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter
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Is anybody surprised that Mike Bush will get a sniff in free agency?
The issue isn’t that he sucks. It’s that he probably sees himself as a #1 RB and wants to be paid like one
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Al’s over spending on garbage has put us in somewhat of a tuff spot it seems, but their is always risk involved in building a successful “business” and I just hope Reggie and Mark aren’t so $ concious that they pass on guys who can obviously help the team becuz of being worried they may not work out.
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I agree.
I think McKenzie will have to make some tough choices the next year or two to get things in order, than once it is, monetary measures will be a much smaller factor in player movement.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:26 am
“Chess player” is metaphorical speaking
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I know, but again, how do you know that? I never heard anything that indicates they are good X’s & O’s type of coaches.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Dakota,
Let’s hope Mistic didn’t read your post.
The poor guy probably througout his back dancing around.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
I know Allen is well respected in the league, but I didn’t hear/ read anything that indicates they are good “Chess Players”.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
I think also that just becuz Al wasted tons of money on guys that didn’t work outit doesn’t make it a “bad thing” to spend alot of $ on building a great team.
Raiders had highest payroll in the league a couple yrs. ago and go 5-11, but you look at the Yankees and THEIR spending gets them a division title every year and a realistic chance at the championship.
The difference is spending it “THE RIGHT WAY”. Not foolishly like our Al Davis did.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
I know, but again, how do you know that? I never heard anything that indicates they are good X’s & O’s type of coaches.
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The man wears a visor for crying out loud, lol!!!!!
Seriously though, he has moved up the ranks of the NFL, the old fashioned way, from position coach on up, and has been very successful in all his stops.
Dorky guys in visors tend to gain their success from being smarter than everyone else, and not because they are some pound their chest, Rex Ryan buffoon.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
In lieu of NO FREAKING NEWS, time to make predictions of what the next Big move will be (re the chess comment above)….
Any takers?
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
You want to buld the team like………wait for it……the San Francisco Giants.
Not the top payroll, but more than the norm. Great defense (pitching), great homefiled advantage, above average coach, great mix of young and old players, great locker room.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 am
Michael Bush will probably end up in new england.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 am
The man wears a visor for crying out loud, lol!!!!!
Seriously though, he has moved up the ranks of the NFL, the old fashioned way, from position coach on up, and has been very successful in all his stops.
Dorky guys in visors tend to gain their success from being smarter than everyone else, and not because they are some pound their chest, Rex Ryan buffoon.
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LMAO dude.
Maybe he has a great “work ethic”. lol (sorry, but I couldn’t help myself)
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 am
Dakota,
That had to be the worse game I ever saw Kobe play. How the hell did we pull that out???
You ready to give Mike Brown’s defense props yet?
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 am
Big game against the Thunder tonight.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 am
Preview of the Western Conference Finals!!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
@RR,
In 2004 Lamont Jordan ran for 479 yards (5.2 YPC), and was deemed, at least by the Raiders, to be NFL Starting Caliber. His reward was a 5 year 27.5 Million contract…
Bush ran for almost 1000 yrds last year, you bet he’ll be looking elswhere for a big payday.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
6 straight missed free throws down the stretch, lol.
Hello, a PG maybe?
Matt Barnes won’t be there to bail you out every night.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Lamont Jordan.
Man, what a disappointment he was.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
I was just gonna say that…when did we cut Palmer? LOL…dam you Dakota! Haha!
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 am
I loved his whole, we aren’t out of the playoffs until we have 7 losses mentality, even though the team would be 2-6.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 am
Bryant Solai Seymour
ShoNasty Curry McClain Rookie
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
933.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
6 straight missed free throws down the stretch, lol.
Hello, a PG maybe?
Matt Barnes won’t be there to bail you out every night.
I know right? But speaking of Point Guards…I heard Curry went down again…man, he is the Warriors DMAC…
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
6 straight missed free throws down the stretch, lol.
Hello, a PG maybe?
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Barnes missed 2, Kobe missed 2, and GaSTUD missed 2.
How does a PG help that?
Our PGs are fine. Fish is rounding into shape after no offseason of training. Blake is healthy. The rookie Goudelock is the real deal.
Minnesota better not give us Beasly, lol.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
What the hell are we going to do about our CB situation?
That may be what gets Wimbley cut. We need 2 starters and that isn’t going to be cheap.
I like Huff and Branch as S.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 am
Can we all agree that Darren McFadden will be #1 on the depth chart?
Why on earth would Mike Bush come back to Oakland to be a backup?
Would you????
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
I like Branch, I think we should cut/ trade Huff, and draft FS Janzen Jackson.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 am
How does a PG help that?
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Top-tier PG’s find a way to get the ball on every situation that you know they are getting fouled, never turn it over, and bang down 80+% from the stripe.
The ball should never be in your PF (Gasol) or poor-shooting SF (Barnes) hands, when you know they are trying to foul you.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
We can draft J Jackson in the 5th or 6th RD.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Michael Bush will probably end up in new england.
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BB,
that would be cool. Warren & Moore couldn’t help them win a ring last year.
Moss, Jordan, Walter, Sands, Gabriel & Burgess didn’t help them win the Super Bowl either …
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:01 am
Terrence Ganaway could be a great option as a backup RB, and we can draft him in later RDs. According to draftcountdown, we showed interest in him at the Senior bowl.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
The ball should never be in your PF (Gasol) or poor-shooting SF (Barnes) hands, when you know they are trying to foul you.
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Did you watch the game?
Lakers were up 7, Barnes got a rebound and was fouled.
Kobe is that guy you described. 80% FT shooter, blah, blah, blah. He missed 2.
PG made a good pass to an unguarded GaSTUD inside the paint. That should’ve been a damn flagrant foul on Hayward. 2 shots and the ball.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
Michael Bush will probably end up in new england.
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Not unless he improves his pass blocking…
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 am
929.J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 am
Dakota,
That had to be the worse game I ever saw Kobe play. How the hell did we pull that out???
You ready to give Mike Brown’s defense props yet?
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I didn’t watch the game. Was busy with the family. Just caught us missing a bunch of FTs at the end to almost choke….so I turned the channel and didn’t check back until I knew the game was over.
I hate when I jinx my team.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 am
Whi should we sign in FA to compete with TP for backup QB? D Garrard?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
Mike Brown’s D is nice….we should keep him a d-coordinator once the season ticket holders revolt and the Lakers are forced to bring in someone who can coach a team that is watchable.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
Who*
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Think that the Raiders could franchise Bush and then trade him?
I would think the Raiders could find a trading partner?
Wouldn’t a team over pay with the Franchise tag for a RB they are not sure is a true #1 back?
Isn’t Micheal Bush kinda like Derrick Ward? Remember his signing with the Bucs?
Not sure Bush would like this…
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
That should’ve been a damn flagrant foul on Hayward. 2 shots and the ball.
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Agree there.
I saw the Jet get a flagrant on Sunday for barely chust-bumping Lin on a breakway, and yet a forearm to the neck didn’t meet the criteria last night.
NBA officials are the absolute worst.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 am
Whi should we sign in FA to compete with TP for backup QB? D Garrard?
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Gradkowski!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
Michael Bush will probably end up in new england.
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Not unless he improves his pass blocking…
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Good Point. But they perfected Ocho and Fat Albert’s game so anything is possible.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
Franchise tag would mean a 1st and a 3rd to trade.
I am not sure we could a 3rd for him, no chance getting a #1, and even laughable to think a 1 and a 3.
Teams don’t like paying big bucks to RB’s.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Think that the Raiders could franchise Bush and then trade him?
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way way way too risky. If no one trades for him then we are stuck paying him over 7 million.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
WTF!
I Just barely logged in and the server said I’m duplicating my comment.
?????????
Morning/afternoon peoples!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
Whi should we sign in FA to compete with TP for backup QB? D Garrard?
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Gradkowski!!!
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Palmer and Gradkowski, send some people on this board to a early grave…
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
953.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Think that the Raiders could franchise Bush and then trade him?
I would think the Raiders could find a trading partner?
Wouldn’t a team over pay with the Franchise tag for a RB they are not sure is a true #1 back?
Isn’t Micheal Bush kinda like Derrick Ward? Remember his signing with the Bucs?
Not sure Bush would like this…
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I don’t think any team would trade for Michael Bush as the franchise tagged player. RBs simply are not that valuable anymore unless they are freaks. Bush is maybe a slightly above-average RB, who has not shown the ability to carry a run game over a long period of time. i just don’t think teams would trade much for that. They might sign him if they have cap space like so many teams not named the Raiders seem to have, but I don’t think they would give much of value up for him.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Let’s go Dubs!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
I thought Grad signed a 2 year contract with Cincinnati.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 am
ust Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
Franchise tag would mean a 1st and a 3rd to trade.
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Actually to sign someones franchise tagged player you have to compensate them with 2 first round picks, however the 2 teams can negotiate any offer the want in trading. We could tag him a give him up for a 5th if we wanted, just to get something in return, however like I said it is VERY risky, because if you cant come to an agreement you are stuck with the guaranteed contract.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 am
I think the market for Bush will be around a 3 year, 14 million deal, with maybe 8 or 9 guaranteed.
He isn’t breaking the bank. No $50 million dollar deals like what Priest was trying to sell us last offseason.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Think that the Raiders could franchise Bush and then trade him?
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way way way too risky. If no one trades for him then we are stuck paying him over 7 million.
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Too true, but I would think you would have the trade already worked out before you franchised him.
Not many sceanrios where a player could be franchised and traded to a team; in this instance, a RB that may not have proven he is worth the big money yet…
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
I think we can get a 3rd or 4th for Bush.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
I thought Grad signed a 2 year contract with Cincinnati.
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Maybe we can trade for him, lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Let’s go Dubs!
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As brutal as we have played, we are only a few games out of the 8th seed.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
I get why everyone is into Bush but in reality RB’s are a dime a dozen he can easily be replaced by a 5th round draft pick.
Yes guys like McFadden are rare but a 2nd string RB are plentiful so I would stop clinging to Bush and get in line with the fact that he is gone.
My guess is he will sign somewhere for 4 or 5 million a year 3 year deal. we will draft a RB in the 5th or 6th round to replace him and pay him around 500K and get similar results.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Good morning DMAC. We need a new post bro.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
“Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 am
I think the market for Bush will be around a 3 year, 14 million deal, with maybe 8 or 9 guaranteed.
He isn’t breaking the bank. No $50 million dollar deals like what Priest was trying to sell us last offseason.”
Good post exactly what I was thinking.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
What about Brady Quinn to compete w/ TP for the back-up position?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
Let’s go Dubs!
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As brutal as we have played, we are only a few games out of the 8th seed.
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You think we ship Monta off before the trading deadline?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Actually to sign someones franchise tagged player you have to compensate them with 2 first round picks, however the 2 teams can negotiate any offer the want in trading
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I was thinking about the Matt Cassell situation…I think it becomes this becomes what many have just said, the value of Michael Bush. As a kool-aid drinker, I think I have a higher opinion of him.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Chicago wants to trade Boozer for Gasol? Dream on fuk faces! We’ll take Noah, Deng and Brewer…..but short of that eat dik Chi-town!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Draft RB T Ganaway, and no more trades with Cincinnati unless it involves trading Keith Rivers for M Huff or TK.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
You think we ship Monta off before the trading deadline?
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Depends on the return we can get. With Steph’s new injury (sigh) his trade value is at an all-time low, so no sense shipping him off.
And how about my man Udoh!!! He is the key to all, I have been saying it for a year and a half now.
Leads the NBA in blocks per 48 minutes. Dude is already an elite interior defender, and now he is getting the calls and respect from the zebras.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Keep Monta and make a 8th seed run. Curry is 1 ankle/foot injury from the bench. Trade Biedrins if anything that guy gives us ZERO.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
It’s a great morning to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
764.Twocents Says:
February 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Democracy is a total failure.
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Ummm…no — If democracy was a total failure, you wouldn’t have posted that.
Ask the Syrians, Chinese, N. Koreans, Iranians…and on and on and on…if they would prefer our version of democracy.
You don’t know how lucky you’ve got it. No clue.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Boozer is shot.
Big guys who start having to finish below the rim, aren’t long in this league.
Goes for Jamarcus Cousins as well.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
DMAC,
I never liked B Quinn. Avg arm and his accuracy is below avg.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
Raider O Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Draft RB T Ganaway, and no more trades with Cincinnati unless it involves trading Keith Rivers for M Huff or TK.
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Whatever happen to Rivers?
Did he play last season?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
SandB — I trust you saw my email the other day?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Udoh also has a decent shot from 12-16 feet out. I rather see McGuire get Beidrin’s minutes.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
And how about my man Udoh!!! He is the key to all, I have been saying it for a year and a half now
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Curry reminds me of Darren McFadden but iwth the willingness to play on a bad wheel. And play pretty well too.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
Udoh is my new fav player…
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Ask the Syrians, Chinese, N. Koreans, Iranians…and on and on and on…if they would prefer our version of democracy.
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Democracy is not for everyone. Look at Iraq.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
That was the issue with Ekpe last year. Wasn’t getting the calls from the refs, and getting in foul trouble.
Now he has the earned the respect, and he can go crashing into someone with his arms up….no call.
Future first-team NBA All-Defensive team.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
You think we ship Monta off before the trading deadline?
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Depends on the return we can get. With Steph’s new injury (sigh) his trade value is at an all-time low, so no sense shipping him off.
And how about my man Udoh!!! He is the key to all, I have been saying it for a year and a half now.
Leads the NBA in blocks per 48 minutes. Dude is already an elite interior defender, and now he is getting the calls and respect from the zebras.
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+ he’s actually developed a few post moves.
Don’t forget this his like his rookie year, because of that injury last season.
It’s time to start him, and bring in Tyler as the back-up.
It’s 4 against 5 when Beans is in the game.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Jlofty, if you arent a doctor and you didn’t have a look at DMAC’s feet you probably should refrain from saying he is unwilling to play. Unless DMAC told you personally he was “unwilling”.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
No DMAC. He was injured, and that’s why they signed TH and the ex whiner LB.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
988.Raider O Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Ask the Syrians, Chinese, N. Koreans, Iranians…and on and on and on…if they would prefer our version of democracy.
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Democracy is not for everyone. Look at Iraq.
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Usually if a nation didn’t fight for it in the first place, they are not going to appreciate it once they have it.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
“SandB — I trust you saw my email the other day?”
Yes I did thank you!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Beans is always fkn with that wrist band on his forearm.
It’s like he is tweaking out there, seriously.
Watch for it.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
We’ll take Noah, Deng and Brewer…..
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I’m keeping GaSTUD.
If they want to talk Derrick Rose, MAYBE we can talk.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
Its a well known fact that DMAC would not take a shot to play even the doctor went on record to say as much.
There have been several articles posted in here supporting this so why argue?
DMAC will not take the needle to play while others do this is a known fact.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
Good day!
All this talk about Wimbley being potentially released wouldn’t be an issue had the Browns not fvcked up on his contract. He would be a potential FA that Reggie would have to decide on signing or letting walk. We got screwed over on that deal. How does that even happen if these contracts are all approved by the league??
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
I’ve seen him miss rebounds, and give up positioning for rebounds, becaue he is literally fidgeting with a band around his forearm, or whatever the hell it is.
Does he have needle marks under there? WTF is up with him?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
Raider O Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
No DMAC. He was injured, and that’s why they signed TH and the ex whiner LB.
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I will take any LB from the Bengals. They are deep and solid at that position.
I wanted to draft Maluaga or Rivers.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
My guess is he will sign somewhere for 4 or 5 million a year 3 year deal. we will draft a RB in the 5th or 6th round to replace him and pay him around 500K and get similar results.
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Not sure that it’s that easy to get similar results. Bush is a tank who doesn’t get hurt. But, considering the pay difference, it’s a chance the Raiders will have to take. Need to spend some $ on defense.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
Btw, I prefer real democracy over our “version of democracy”.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’m trying to tell YOU Laker fans.
If you want another ring, make a play for D Will.
Nuff said!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
1003.DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’m trying to tell YOU Laker fans.
If you want another ring, make a play for D Will.
Nuff said!
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Wouldn’t mind Dwill, but we are not giving up Bynum to get him, and the Nets are not taking Gasol for him…soooooo what now?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
I will take any LB from the Bengals. They are deep and solid at that position.
I wanted to draft Maluaga or Rivers.
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Thomas Howard anyone??
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
I hope the Lakers to trade Gasol, and watch them end up imploding.
He is the grease that keeps things flowing.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
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Usually if a nation didn’t fight for it in the first place, they are not going to appreciate it once they have it.
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I agree.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
I’ve seen him miss rebounds, and give up positioning for rebounds, becaue he is literally fidgeting with a band around his forearm, or whatever the hell it is.
Does he have needle marks under there? WTF is up with him?
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Maybe he tucks away his e pills under his wrist band.
Dude does like a raver.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Not sure why Al dogged out T-Howard so bad.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Why on earth would we want to trade the best PF in the game for a PG????
You don’t trade bigs for smalls!!!!!
Right, Dakota?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
MBush29 for a 3rd or 4th rounder?? Pffft.
MBush is a proven RB…he had over 1300-yards combined Offense last season, and extrapolated to a full season, he would’ve been pushing 1800+. That, of course, would be if he had a viable, productive sidekick for the year…which Taiwan Jones hasn’t proven to be.
Rookie RB’s, drafted or not, are as much a coin-flip as any other rookie: you don’t know what you got, until you see what you got in NFL games. MBush has proven he can play with the big boys, for more than one game at a time…GM’s breathe a sigh of relief when they find RB’s who can do that.
MBush29 is as valuable as a 2nd-rounder all day long right now…and with another game, he probably would’ve busted that mythical 1,000 mark (it still sounds good, anyway)…his value would be even higher.
Don’t waste the Franchise tag on MBush29, just pay him a reasonable, market-based salary to stay.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
I will take any LB from the Bengals. They are deep and solid at that position.
I wanted to draft Maluaga or Rivers.
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Thomas Howard anyone??
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Loved his game playing the pass, but was horrible at the run, but I wouldn’t mind him coming back to play w/ some real D-coordinators and coaching staff.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
I wish I knew enough about basketball to get into this conversation but I don’t.
I prefer college hoops they actually play defense!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Maybe he tucks away his e pills under his wrist band.
Dude does like a raver.
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I’ve been knowing this for a few years.
Heard from someone he was just being real blatant about it.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
We should trade for K Rivers. He will be the best LB on the roster.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
You don’t trade bigs for smalls!!!!!
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Ok
Then you stay w/ that big loose puzzy. I’ll roll w/ the small tight one.
lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
Don’t waste the Franchise tag on MBush29, just pay him a reasonable, market-based salary to stay.
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agreed with HD37!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
McClain will be our best LB in 2012.
Print that!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
959.DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
WTF!
I Just barely logged in and the server said I’m duplicating my comment.
?????????
Morning/afternoon peoples!
I had that this morning too!
And not worried about getting another ring…it will come!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
“The fact that McFadden is even attempting to play speaks to his toughness; other players this season, including Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub, already have seen their seasons end due to LisFranc injuries.”
“What Anderson told McFadden after he looked at the test results on the foot is that it is about managing the pain when the injury clearly still is not fully healed.”
“…Jackson said Tuesday. “We have to be very careful with that. We don’t want to do anything that’s going to jeopardize his career or his opportunity to play.”
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666,
So in your opinion McFadden, though his foot was CLEARLY NOT FULLY healed, should have shot his foot up with painkillers, went out and played at 60%, thereby hurting his team and jeopardizing his entire future in the San Diego game?
Get real. If he had done that our defense would still have been shredded and we still would have lost and McFadden would probably had further damaged the foot and lost half of next year.
Yeah, that would have been a smart move.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
“Don’t waste the Franchise tag on MBush29, just pay him a reasonable, market-based salary to stay.”
This is where you and I disagree I thought he was a poor blocker and cost us a few sacks because of this. he slowed down at the end of the year and lost some steam.
Draft a guy who is a solid blocker and can carry the rock 5 or 6 times a game to compliment McFadden and pay him 500K that way we can save money to spend on the defense….just my opinion
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
You probably got that dupliate comment because your same greeting from yesterday is still on this thread.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
1018.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
McClain will be our best LB in 2012.
Print that!!
Printed and stored
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
MBush is a proven RB
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No he is not. He Never started an entire season, never reached 1000 yards, and his avg YPC is not that impressive. No one in their right mind is willing to trade anything better than a 3rd for him.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
1022.J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
You probably got that dupliate comment because your same greeting from yesterday is still on this thread.
You’re probably right because that is what happened to me this morning also!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
I mean seriously, what we set the odds at, for D-Mac to average say 20 touches a game the first 5 games of the season?
Less than 50/50?
35%???
15%???
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
1010.J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Why on earth would we want to trade the best PF in the game for a PG????
You don’t trade bigs for smalls!!!!!
Right, Dakota?
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You don’t trade two 7 footers for an injured OPG like Paul, but Williams is healthy and much younger than Gasol.
Of course I would want Chirs Humphries as part of the deal too….
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
Btw, Bush is a FA, so we can’t trade him unless we tag him.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
I’m all for bringing back Bush at a reasonable price.
If he wants a huge contract…….
Good bye.
NO to the Franchise!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Whoz beans?
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
This is where you and I disagree I thought he was a poor blocker and cost us a few sacks because of this. he slowed down at the end of the year and lost some steam.
Draft a guy who is a solid blocker and can carry the rock 5 or 6 times a game to compliment McFadden and pay him 500K that way we can save money to spend on the defense
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Silver,
Mike Bush failed to crack 80 rushing yards in his last six starts. I’m not advocating that we throw a bunch of money at him. I’m just saying we should offer him a fair “take it or leave it” deal to stay… if he balks or makes an insane counter offer?
Move On, as you suggest.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
You probably got that dupliate comment because your same greeting from yesterday is still on this thread.
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A smart man here.
That’s why your in the Semi-pro front office!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
McClain will be our best LB in 2012.
Print that!!
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I agree, if we don’t trade for K Rivers.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Of course I would want Chirs Humphries as part of the deal too….
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FK Chris!
Send me his ex-wife.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
FK Chris!
Send me his ex-wife.
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And her sisters.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
People want to replace MBush29 with ANYBODY.
Is DMC ready to stay healthy 2+ games in a row?
Who (Hue) knows??
Is Taiwan: 1) Healthy enough? 2) Productive when in?
Who knows??
Replacing MBush and/or DMC isn’t going to be easy, folks. Either replace Bush with PROVEN NFL talent, or don’t do it at all. DMC?? I’d say the same thing, except…a tough rookie might be able to stay on the field longer.
My point is…we NEED at least 2 RB’s we KNOW are capable of carrying the load, at least for a handful of games, when needed. Right now, the Raiders have ONE: MBush29.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
You probably got that dupliate comment because your same greeting from yesterday is still on this thread.
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A smart man here.
That’s why your in the Semi-pro front office!!
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In the front office serving me coffee. (”light on the sugar, my man”)
lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
McClain will be our best LB in 2012.
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JFB,
better than Curry, Wimbley & Goethel?
thats not hard to imagine …
almost like saying Huff will be our best safety in 2012
better than Branch, Mitchell & Giordano.
not a real SHOCKING prediction there imo, unless you love the OLB’s and hate McClain
I think all 3 could use improvement and take a paycut
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
“So in your opinion McFadden, though his foot was CLEARLY NOT FULLY healed, should have shot his foot up with painkillers, went out and played at 60%, thereby hurting his team and jeopardizing his entire future in the San Diego game?”
If the doctor tells you that you can play and not risk further damage to the existing injury all you have to do is manage the pain then I can honestly tell you that 99.9% of the NFL players before the year 2000 would have taken the shots and played.
BUT…we no longer live in that era where Jack Youngblood tapes 2 aspirin to his broken leg and goes back in the game. We now live in the spoiled athlete era where its all about “ME” and my commercials and my career and MY image. blah blah blah
Who cars about the defense in the San Diego game its the message it sends to his teammates that is what matters.
I know we disagree on this.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Gasol and two #1 picks to NJ for Williams and Chris humphries…..I’ll take that deal.
But Bynum better never injure his knee again, because then I am coming after you Jhill, for you are the one issuing guarantees that Bynum will never be injured again!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
If we don’t bring back Bush, I want Tolbert.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
I didn’t disparage DMac for not shooting up nor not playing. Just pointing out the facts…
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
1037.DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
You probably got that dupliate comment because your same greeting from yesterday is still on this thread.
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A smart man here.
That’s why your in the Semi-pro front office!!
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In the front office serving me coffee. (”light on the sugar, my man”)
lol
LOL, good one DMAC!
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Mike Bush failed to crack 80 rushing yards in his last six starts. I’m not advocating that we throw a bunch of money at him. I’m just saying we should offer him a fair “take it or leave it” deal to stay… if he balks or makes an insane counter offer?
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Agreed. And, very likely, Bush would be wise to take a better offer elsewhere. It’s just how the business works.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
1040.Dakota Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Gasol and two #1 picks to NJ for Williams and Chris humphries…..I’ll take that deal.
But Bynum better never injure his knee again, because then I am coming after you Jhill, for you are the one issuing guarantees that Bynum will never be injured again!
that’s a guarantee I would still be reluctant to make! When he proves that he can stay healthy the whole year, which would be next year due to the short season, I’ll think about making that guarantee!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
We can always draft a backup RB. I like T Ganaway.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
I need more than Humphries thrown in.
I’d want their 1st rd pick this year.
D Will is so good that he is leading the Nets to last place?
There is ZERO reason to break up GaSTUD and Bynum.
I’ll take Ramon Sessions or Mo Williams instead of giving up a pillar for a damn guard. Especially with Kobe still in that backcourt.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
“Silver,
Mike Bush failed to crack 80 rushing yards in his last six starts. I’m not advocating that we throw a bunch of money at him. I’m just saying we should offer him a fair “take it or leave it” deal to stay… if he balks or makes an insane counter offer?
Move On, as you suggest.”
Ok so lets see what kind of offer that would be….let me take a crack at it first then you tel me what you think.
3 years 10-14 million 8 guaranteed is that about right?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
I hate to point out Dischargers players, but I think Tolbert would be the perfect back-up to DMAC, if Bush decides to walk.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
Bush would be wise to take a better offer elsewhere. It’s just how the business works
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Yup. SR is correct
Mike Bush is going to the highest bidder.
He only has 2 or 3 years left imo
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
Tolbert would be a great option in FA.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
What can we get for Luke Walton…I mean, according to his dad, he is the most under rated NBA player..lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
But Bynum better never injure his knee again, because then I am coming after you Jhill, for you are the one issuing guarantees that Bynum will never be injured again!
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LOL!
I think you are tremendously undervaluing GaSTUD’s value.
Why on earth would you feel the need to give up our 2 #1s AND GaSTUD???
What do you expect D Will’s role to be with Kobe in the backcourt?
Chris Humphries to replace GaSTUD?????
No effin way!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
I like physical running backs, not those soft, non contact, scare to run over a DB running back.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
What can we get for Luke Walton
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Salary cap releif when we amnesty him next year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
What can we get for Luke Walton…I mean, according to his dad, he is the most under rated NBA player..lol
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You can always trade him for DJ MBenga.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
almost like saying Huff will be our best safety in 2012
better than Branch, Mitchell & Giordano.
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Branch is a better safety than Huff, I don’t understand your distaste for him?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Ok so lets see what kind of offer that would be….let me take a crack at it first then you tel me what you think.
3 years 10-14 million 8 guaranteed is that about right?
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Silver,
that seems fair to me. That is almost identical to the contract Al Davis gave Justin Fargas after his 1,000 yard season in 2007
and Fargas was a better leader, blocker and locker room guy!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
1055.J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
What can we get for Luke Walton
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Salary cap releif when we amnesty him next year.
LMAO!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
MBush failed to crack 80 yards rushing his last handful of games because of a number of problems, not all his own making: bad playcalling, poor blocking, the lack of a viable RB threat in relief…
And…solid RB stats come from yardage numbers all over the place: 97-yards here, 53-yards there, 113-yards over there. If a RB averages 75-yards over 16-games, he goes for 1,200-yards. When a Raiders RB runs for more than 1,200-yards, we enshrine him. If either DMC or MBush would’ve started the entire season, either would’ve eclipsed that mark — with another 600+ yards receiving. Justifiable Pro Bowl numbers.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
1056.DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
What can we get for Luke Walton…I mean, according to his dad, he is the most under rated NBA player..lol
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You can always trade him for DJ MBenga.
LOL, good one! Same player that has already won titles with LA as Walton…
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
I can teach a good RB how to block. I cannot teach a good blocker how to run.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Bush’s ypc #s are what worry me, he was at an ok 4.2ypc last year, helped a lot by that monster game at SD, but Dmac was pushing 5.4 ypc behind the same oline. He wore down. Simple as that. Not saying its entirely his fault, but true #1 rbs dont wear down at the end of the year, and its even worse in Bush’s case because he didn’t start the first 6 games.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
Branch is a better safety than Huff, I don’t understand your distaste for him?
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BCZ,
I like Huff. I just don’t like his contract
I like Branch. I just don’t like the thought of tagging him or paying him like a Top 10 NFL safety
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:13 am
So what is the prediction of a comp pick if M. Bush walks for the 2013 draft?
Remember 1/4 of the NFL are free agents?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:13 am
1062.HayesDaze37 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
I can teach a good RB how to block. I cannot teach a good blocker how to run.
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Bush been in the league 4 years, and played college ball and hs ball and he hasn’t learned to block effectively yet. He isn’t a complete back if he has to learn a fundamental skill at 29 years old
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
anch is a better safety than Huff, I don’t understand your distaste for him?
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I don’t know how you can say that.
Branch was FINALLY decent last year. He was BY FAR our worst safety in year the year before.
I think Branch has the chance to be a good one if he stays in the film room like he did last year.
Huff did the same thing the year before last and was DAMN good for us as a result. A better FS than he had ever been.
Last year Huff was HURT pretty much all year.I still say Huff is our best DB.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
“I can teach a good RB how to block. I cannot teach a good blocker how to run.”
Yes I get that but we are talking about a back up RB when we already have a lot of money wrapped up in that position in McFadden. Plus we are over the cap and we need a lot more bodies in camp between now and then.
With all of that in mind it just doesn’t make fiscal sense to keep Bush if you ask me.
Sure he is a great player I love watching him but this is a business and we are over the cap and cannot afford to pay a 2nd RB top dollar.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
O Mock draft 1.0:
5th RD: RB T Ganaway
6th RD: FS J Jackson
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
666 Says:
If the doctor tells you that you can play and not risk further damage to the existing injury all you have to do is manage the pain then I can honestly tell you that 99.9% of the NFL players before the year 2000 would have taken the shots and played.
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666,
Did the doctor really say he would “not risk further damage” to his foot if he returned? I don’t see that in the story. I think you are making that up to suit your needs.
If the Dr. said that, then why did Hue come out and talk about “jeopardizing his career” after the Anderson meeting?
McFadden played through turf toe injuries which are very painful, and he played through shoulder injuries. I think your twisting of what was stated in this argument is unfair to McFadden.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
MBush failed to crack 80 yards rushing his last handful of games because of a number of problems, not all his own making: bad playcalling, poor blocking, the lack of a viable RB threat in relief…
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HD37,
sounds like excuses.
#1 Blame Hue Jackson’s offense, yet most people say defense was the problem last year or two.
#2 Blame the O-Line, yet Bob Wylie kept up the run blocking for DMAC and reduced our sack totals by HALF. Bush’s first few starts were solid too
#3 Blame the lack of depth. If DMAC doesn’t get it done next year, are we going to blame Taiwan Jones, Rock Cartwright & Lonyae Miller ???
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
1069.Raider O Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
O Mock draft 1.0:
5th RD: RB T Ganaway
6th RD: FS J Jackson
What about 3rd?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Branch was our best DB last year, and he will be our best DB next year (if we don’t sign Carr).
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Bush’s ypc #s are what worry me, he was at an ok 4.2ypc last year, helped a lot by that monster game at SD, but Dmac was pushing 5.4 ypc behind the same oline. He wore down. Simple as that. Not saying its entirely his fault, but true #1 rbs dont wear down at the end of the year, and its even worse in Bush’s case because he didn’t start the first 6 games.
Bush been in the league 4 years, and played college ball and hs ball and he hasn’t learned to block effectively yet. He isn’t a complete back if he has to learn a fundamental skill at 29 years old
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BCZ is now allowed to speak for me in all matters regarding Michael Bush – Ron Dayne II
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hwnrdr,
That’s all we have for now. Other picks have not been awarded yet.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 am
Like those who worry about Andrew Bynum’s knee is no different than McFadden’s foot.
McFadden will be a pro bowl player for the Raiders just like Bynum is an All Star C for the Lakers!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Dakota @ 993,
Amen. That is a truism that can be writ in stone and every bit as emperical as the laws of physics and mathematics.
Bush will get his payday, but not from Reggie.
Huff and Wimbley will restructure or walk the plank, they won’t even be given the option to kick rocks.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Chuck Bresnahan made players out of Tyvon Branch & Aaron Curry.
He made Richard Seymour a Pro Bowler (again).
He obviously didn’t hurt Routt’s value on the open market
Thanks, Chuck!
you will be missed
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
1012.DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
I will take any LB from the Bengals. They are deep and solid at that position.
I wanted to draft Maluaga or Rivers.
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Thomas Howard anyone??
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Loved his game playing the pass, but was horrible at the run, but I wouldn’t mind him coming back to play w/ some real D-coordinators and coaching staff.
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One of the few recent Al davis “speed” picks that actually plays like a football player and shows some real love for the game.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
Branch was our best DB last year, and he will be our best DB next year
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Huff was hurt last year, so yes, Branch was our best DB.
This year, I think they will both stand out. I think Allen and Tarver will have both of them in position to make plays.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
I don’t know how you can say that.
Branch was FINALLY decent last year. He was BY FAR our worst safety in year the year before.
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cant argue with opinion.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Give MBush29 a 4-year, $20 million contract, with $10 million guaranteed.
Trade DMC…I’ve been looking at who else is available, and revising his value. Matt Forte is obviously the expensive prize in RB’s this year. DMC isn’t nearly as expensive as Forte will be this year, and he’s more explosive.
DMC will bring a 2nd and a 4th this year, or a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year. Nobody else on our team could do that. For the right team, that would be a bargain for DMC’s talents…and we could use the picks.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
“McFadden played through turf toe injuries which are very painful, and he played through shoulder injuries. I think your twisting of what was stated in this argument is unfair to McFadden.”
Dakota you are a staunch McFadden supporter and that is cool. I m not trying to twist words and in reality none of us will ever know what took place in the doctors office or in meetings with Hue Jackson all we can do is speculate which is what I am doing.
I love watching him play and would love to see a season where he plays in all 16 games. If I am wrong I will admit it and move on to the next topic.
Unless we personally spoke with his doctor none of knows what was really said.
So yes I am speculating.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
One of the few recent Al davis “speed” picks that actually plays like a football player and shows some real love for the game.
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CW,
DHB is entering Year #4
Murphy is entering Year #4
Ford is entering Year #3
Moore is entering Year #2
these cats all have world class SPEED. I think they are going to prove Al Davis right for drafting them and Carson Palmer is going to make his 3rd Pro Bowl this season, 1st as a Raider!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
I will take any LB from the Bengals. They are deep and solid at that position.
I wanted to draft Maluaga or Rivers.
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Thomas Howard anyone??
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Loved his game playing the pass, but was horrible at the run, but I wouldn’t mind him coming back to play w/ some real D-coordinators and coaching staff.
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One of the few recent Al davis “speed” picks that actually plays like a football player and shows some real love for the game.
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Also, as the J-Mac has pointed out in the past, T. Howard might be better suited for the 3-4 OLB gig. Bring back T. Howard and K. Morrison!
Wimbley(reduiced), Curry (reduced), T. Howard, Goethel, McClain and Morrison?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Loved his game playing the pass, but was horrible at the run, but I wouldn’t mind him coming back to play w/ some real D-coordinators and coaching staff.
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I don’t know, he has a bunch of DLineman in front of him that dont occupy blockers but he gets blamed in the run game. Groves and Curry did no better after him. I think he got a raw deal as well.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 am
I don’t know how you can say that.
Branch was FINALLY decent last year. He was BY FAR our worst safety in year the year before.
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cant argue with opinion.
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He was BY FAR our worst safety in year the year before.
Wasn’t he hurt? Sholder injury? Not saying this had an impact one way or another, know he was on the injury report a lot…
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Give MBush29 a 4-year, $20 million contract, with $10 million guaranteed.
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HD37,
I’d be cool with that, as long as the contract is backloaded. He’ll never see the last two years of that deal
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Trade DMAC?! Trade our best weapon on offense for hopes & dreams?!
No Thank you!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 am
McFadden played through a lot of injuries in college, whereas he sits for the same injuries now. His feet and shoulders have always been issues, and he’s preserving his career.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 am
“DMC will bring a 2nd and a 4th this year, or a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year. Nobody else on our team could do that. For the right team, that would be a bargain for DMC’s talents…and we could use the picks.”
Would anyone make that trade without the benefit of seeing him run in a game situation to show he has fully healed?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:32 am
Bring back T. Howard and K. Morrison!
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@Dutch
I love you too. Happy Valentine’s Day
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
I don’t understand this trade DMac for a 2nd rd pick theory.
What position would we target?
We’re paying DMac 5 million. Trading him would mean we’d have to franchise Bush and pay him 7 million.
That’s just not going to happen.
If someone wants to give us a couple of #1s then he MIGHT get moved.
Do you guys think Andre Johnson is being shopped for a 2nd rd pick?
Adrian Peterson???
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
I don’t know, he has a bunch of DLineman in front of him that dont occupy blockers but he gets blamed in the run game.
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BCZ,
expect some backlash from Jhill for this comment. Just giving you the head’s up. He is a staunch supporter of Seymour & Kelly in the middle, who ALWAYS get double teamed
If your comment is regarding Bryant & Houston at DE, my apologies
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
“DMC will bring a 2nd and a 4th this year, or a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year. Nobody else on our team could do that. For the right team, that would be a bargain for DMC’s talents…and we could use the picks.”
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Pipe dreams dude. No way DMac garners 2 2’s and a 4 in trade.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 am
1084.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
One of the few recent Al davis “speed” picks that actually plays like a football player and shows some real love for the game.
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CW,
DHB is entering Year #4
Murphy is entering Year #4
Ford is entering Year #3
Moore is entering Year #2
these cats all have world class SPEED. I think they are going to prove Al Davis right for drafting them and Carson Palmer is going to make his 3rd Pro Bowl this season, 1st as a Raider!
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He certainly did well in finding these WR’s, do you agree with the king of the rock kicking that we need a REAL # 1?? I think Moore can and will be that guy. I’ve heard he doesn’t have the size but Reggie Wayne isn’t much bigger than Moore is he?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 am
If he passes their physical, yes, they’d bring DMC in. He’d be running, cutting, stopping and jumping in the physical, too.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
He is a staunch supporter of Seymour & Kelly in the middle, who ALWAYS get double teamed
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Actaully, Gerard MONEY Warren is the guy who “ALWAYS” got doubled.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:39 am
McFadden played through a lot of injuries in college,
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Can you provide a link or source for your information. I thought he wasn’t injury prone at Ark, and the only injury he had wasn’t football related. He kicked someone at a bar, and injured his foot (as I remember it).
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
And for the record, 3 years later, yeah we do finally need another DT.
Especially since the switch to 3-4 seems to be upon us.
Go get Solai and an undrafted rookie.
Trade Kelly for a 3rd.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
I didn’t say trade DMC for two #2’s and a 4. I said a #2 this year and a #2 from next year. Or a #2 and a #4 from this year.
Very do-able, and right on value for an oft-injured, all-world talent.
And YES…TRADE DMC: He has value, and we can use the picks. Besides…so many of you guys say it’s EASY to just plug in another RB and get results. If it’s so easy, why not trade our most valuable, tradeable asset, and find a cheaper/healthier replacement?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
Wouldn’t it be disappointing if we hired a 3-4 DC and we stayed in the 4-3?
I’m not against the 4-3, but why not bring in a 4-3 DC if we are staying with that D?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
Ya know, not for nothing, but teams the switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3 are rarely ever successful in doing so.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
O — Google it, I don’t have time right now. But, you know I don’t throw out the mis-information, man. It was common knowledge when DMC was a Razorback, and he was the equivalent of “doubtful” or “questionable” a number of times before games. His shoulders, feet and skinny ankles were a worry of scouts at draft time. It is no large surprise he hasn’t held-up to the physical abuse.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
He certainly did well in finding these WR’s, do you agree with the king of the rock kicking that we need a REAL # 1?? I think Moore can and will be that guy. I’ve heard he doesn’t have the size but Reggie Wayne isn’t much bigger than Moore is he?
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CW,
I’m leaving the WR corps alone. the Top 4 WR’s are already on the roster. the starters will be determined in camp & preseason. Your 5th & 6th WR’s might as well be Hagan & JLH who will both come cheap, can catch the football and contribute on special teams
We are set at TE as well with Boss, Myers & Gordon
Ausberry can compete at both WR & TE, but will probably fall short at both and be sent packing. RRS = not a fan
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
1083.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
“McFadden played through turf toe injuries which are very painful, and he played through shoulder injuries. I think your twisting of what was stated in this argument is unfair to McFadden.”
Dakota you are a staunch McFadden supporter and that is cool. I m not trying to twist words and in reality none of us will ever know what took place in the doctors office or in meetings with Hue Jackson all we can do is speculate which is what I am doing.
I love watching him play and would love to see a season where he plays in all 16 games. If I am wrong I will admit it and move on to the next topic.
Unless we personally spoke with his doctor none of knows what was really said.
So yes I am speculating.
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No need for any more speculation, I just texted Dr. Anderson and he said McFadden is one tough SOB and is ready to roll for next year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
Loved his game playing the pass, but was horrible at the run, but I wouldn’t mind him coming back to play w/ some real D-coordinators and coaching staff.
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I don’t know, he has a bunch of DLineman in front of him that dont occupy blockers but he gets blamed in the run game. Groves and Curry did no better after him. I think he got a raw deal as well.
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I actually thought Q and AC played the run better than TH, but were horrible at defending the pass.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 am
I thought we had the talent to run away with the division last year. I think the injuries to the secondary and our starting QB going down derailed that.
We’ve rebounded nicely by upgrading the QB situation. The same way the WRs and QB looked light years better in JCs second year is the same reason it will look better Palmer’s second year.
I’m bringing back as much of the squad as possible. Just add depth at LB and CB. LB depth improves our STs as well.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 am
Q is the only guy I saw make plays behind the line of scrimmage for losses.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
do coaches have a sort of Wonderlic test to see what wattage their bulbs burn at?
sample question -
4th and 9, 17 seconds left, down by two, ball at your own 42, no timeouts…do you
a) call for pass routes over the middle to get the 1st down hoping to spike the ball?
b) call for sideline routes to get the 1st down and stop the clock?
c) run a sweep?
d) have your QB heave the ball as far as he can hoping for a TD or a PI?
e) try a 76 yd FG?
f) punt?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
yeah we do finally need another DT.
Especially since the switch to 3-4 seems to be upon us.
Go get Solai and an undrafted rookie.
Trade Kelly for a 3rd.
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ROG, SnB & Dakota,
we’ve recruited another semi pro!
a big ugly is just what the doctor ordered
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Your 5th & 6th WR’s might as well be Hagan & JLH who will both come cheap, can catch the football and contribute on special teams
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LOL!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
HD37,
I’m not saying you made it up. I was asking if you can share the source of your information. I will google it and post the results for you.
His skinny legs and fumbles were a concern, but I don’t remember anything about injuries.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
HayesDaze37,
You don’t trade a young player who is a potential superstar for 2nd and 4th round picks, who may or may not be serviceable nfl players.
Sorry to have to break this news to you.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
And for the record, 3 years later, yeah we do finally need another DT.
Especially since the switch to 3-4 seems to be upon us.
Go get Solai and an undrafted rookie.
Trade Kelly for a 3rd.
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Make it happen Reggie!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:55 am
1109.DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 am
Q is the only guy I saw make plays behind the line of scrimmage for losses.
I believe he sarted playing better when he lost his starting job to Curry!
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
1113.Raider O Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
HD37,
I’m not saying you made it up. I was asking if you can share the source of your information. I will google it and post the results for you.
His skinny legs and fumbles were a concern, but I don’t remember anything about injuries.
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Let me save you the time….McFadden had one non-football related injury while in college.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
That’s because he didn’t miss games then, O. His game attendance was great. If he missed games it would’ve been wider news. And he’d have been a 2nd-round pick.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
I’m bringing back as much of the squad as possible. Just add depth at LB and CB. LB depth improves our STs as well
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Jhill,
we just need depth at CB?
your 5 CB’s are going to be CJ37, DVD, Chekwa, Sheppard & McCann ???
speaking of LB special teamers: Sam Williams, Ricky Brown, Bruce Davis II and Isaiah Ekejiuba were all excellent on special teams!
thoughts on bringing a few of those guys back?
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Dakota,
take some of the money from Baby Long Worthy’s college fund and buy your boy McF some cleats that will prevent
the playus interruptus he suffers.
also, put a note in the shoe box reminding him that playing more games does give him the right to resurrect his fumbleitis.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
4th and 9, 17 seconds left, down by two, ball at your own 42, no timeouts…do you
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a) call for pass routes over the middle to get the 1st down hoping to spike the ball?
Have to know that the other team is going to be guarding the sideline pass.
17 seconds is plenty of time to complete a 10 yd pass over the middle, get the ball spiked, and run your pro bowl kicker in for the win.
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
In 2006, despite a slow start due to a dislocated toe from an off the field incident at a night club in Little Rock,[14] McFadden rushed for a school-record 1,647 yards, the fifth best all-time in the SEC for single season yards, scored 14 touchdowns, and threw for three more touchdowns on just nine passing attempts, becoming a first-team All-American. (according to wiki)
He started 11 games his rookie season, started 13 in 07, and starred 14 games in 08. What injuries are you talking about?
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
What do you guys think about Puhua?
Might come a little cheaper than Solai.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Let me save you the time….McFadden had one non-football related injury while in college.
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That’s what I remember too.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:01 am
your 5 CB’s are going to be CJ37, DVD, Chekwa, Sheppard & McCann ???
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I sure hope not.
Shepparf and McCann are gone.
I’d imagine CJ37 will get a shot to show what he has left in minicamp.
I think DVD is going to be a playa for us.
I think we’ll certainly sign at least one starting CB in FA.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:01 am
RRS, agreed, no need to mess with the WR/TE roster spots, aside from Louis “big play bad play” Murphy.
LMAO at JLH! I would rather resign Schilens and find Doug Gabriel than bring him back. JLH/Zack Miller/Louis Murphy = SHELL SHOCKED!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:03 am
I’ll take any of the big ugly’s.
Bryant from Det might even be a good option.
I agree that we don’t need to break the bank for a 3-4 NT. We can find one in rd 4.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:03 am
HD,
I can’t find anything about DMAC being injured at Ark other than that sigke injury which wasn’t football related.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Single*
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
I’d imagine CJ37 will get a shot to show what he has left in minicamp.
I think DVD is going to be a playa for us.
I think we’ll certainly sign at least one starting CB in FA.
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CJ37 is one starter. DVD & Check can compete for the starting gig opposite him, with the “loser” getting considerable reps as nickel corner
what would be wrong having Sheppard & McCann as 4th & 5th CB’s ???
We don’t have much fun money for FA or picks in the draft. Plus your secondary is only as good as your pass rush imo
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Like I said…he played through all injuries in college.
You guys are taking the RB situation waaay too personal. DMC is our most valuable, tradeable asset, plain and simple.
No matter who we like (I think DMC’s terrific, btw), we need to face facts: DMC can bring value to the team by being traded. Whereas, he does nothing for us on the bench.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:07 am
Why not go with 5 WRs and keep our 4 TEs?
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:08 am
LMAO at JLH! I would rather resign Schilens and find Doug Gabriel than bring him back
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CW,
I wouldn’t be upset if we re-signed Chaz Schilens for 2-years at the vet minimum!
JLH has more value on special teams though. Plus he’s more of a playmaker and less injury prone
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Whereas, he does nothing for us on the bench.
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I luv DMAC, but this is so true.
I still wouldn’t trade him though.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Why not go with 5 WRs and keep our 4 TEs?
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Jhill,
Because most of our WR’s haven’t proven they can stay healthy for 16 games
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Speaking of VALUE:
DMAC is one of the best RBs in the game when healthy. He can run and catch, and he can throw. He can score any time he touches the ball.
Draft picks are unknown. They can be great, good, avg, or busts.
The value is in keeping DMAC, and not trading him now. We can still trade DMAC next season, if he can’t stay healthy. He is still under contract for 2 more seasons.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Signing and trading MBush makes no sense — the first 2-years of his new deal is going to make it cost-prohibitive.
DMC is a maybe-mega-superstar, whose career is already HALF OVER, while riding the pines half of the time. Pair MBush with a workhorse from Free Agency, and watch the Raiders churn yardage.
Gotta run!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:13 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
Like I said…he played through all injuries in college.
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Can you support your statement with facts? I tried, but I couldn’t find anything that supports your claim.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:13 am
I like CJ37, RRS.
If he’s healthy and recovered from that terrible situation with his family, then yes I think he could start for us.
If DVD comes back with that extra 10 lbs, I think he could be the other starter
Chekwa could be much better in the new zone coverages instead of so much man. Just though he was a little stiff.
A lot of if’s with that though.
I think we need at least one starting corner via FA.
I’m so concerned about our corner situation that I’d be willing to cut Wimbley and use his salary to bring in 2 guys.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
I really hope the new regime uses Ford as our full time KR/PR in 2012.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 am
POST-1136,KEY PHRASE THERE IS “WHEN HEALTHY”.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
O Mock Draft 1.0:
5- RB T Ganaway
6- FS J Jackson
Trade Huff & TK for 2 4th round picks. Maybe a 3rd & a 4th if we get lucky.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
That’s why I added that phrase my friend. I know he is very talented, by he hasn’t proved that he can stay healthy so far. I’m willing to give him one more season with a new GM & HC since he is under contract for 2 more seasons, and he wasn’t injury prone at college.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
I think we need at least one starting corner via FA.
I’m so concerned about our corner situation that I’d be willing to cut Wimbley and use his salary to bring in 2 guys.
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Jhill,
2 questions.
#1 Who would replace Wimbley?
#2 What CB would you target in FA thats in our price range?
I mean, Reggie might cut Wimbley just to help dissolve some of that $11 million we’re over the cap – Right?
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
Lunch time!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
I AGREE RAIDER O.JUST FRUSTRATING ESPECIALLY DOWN THE STRETCH LAST YEAR WHEN TEAM REALLY NEEDED HIM.
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