Raiders going stealth for now
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am in Oakland Raiders.
Working at the NFL scouting combine covering everything local _ Raiders, 49ers, Andrew Luck and the locals. A light day for Raiders news, with coach Dennis Allen not scheduled to speak until Friday and general manager Reggie McKenzie not at all, although I’ll endeavor to track him down if possible.
Did talk to Rich Gannon informally for a few minutes on a break from his Sirius radio show. He’s excited about the potential change in culture. I asked him if he thought Carson Palmer would be a fit for Greg Knapp’s offense and Gannon said he thought it would be fine with a few tweaks.
Gannon thinks Palmer’s skill set is roughly similar to that of Matt Schwab, who flourished under Knapp with the Houston Texans.
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February 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
Go Raiders
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Fk the whiners Jerry!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
yo
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Yeah buddy!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 am
I got 5 on it!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 am
Knapp’s offense could help Palmer cut down on his picks.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Timed that right.
Usually start to get excited about the A’s this time of year but that isn’t very exciting. The future looks bleak. Go Raiders!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
CP will be very successful in 2012. Enough with all the naysayers.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
1 NATION…Only NATION…
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Matt Schwab
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I BELIEVE IT’S Shaub Jerry lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
If we keep Bush someone needs to teach him how to block.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Wasn’t STEALTH the kind of D we ran last 9 years? Just askin.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
If bush walks get tolbert cheap
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
I AGREE RAIDER O.JUST FRUSTRATING ESPECIALLY DOWN THE STRETCH LAST YEAR WHEN TEAM REALLY NEEDED HIM.
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Dirt Lot,
even without McFadden – the Raiders had more than enough talent to win at least 2 of their last 5 games!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Matt Schwab
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hahahahahahahaha….jer, you should know the Semi’s don’t miss a thing…lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Bush is gone.. Gone
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
I mean matt schaub
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 am
Knapp’s offense could help Palmer cut down on his picks.
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True, but CP will still throw some picks, because of his style of play. He takes a lot of risk, and thats ok w/ me. Its the bone headed once that hurt, and he will def. improve on that.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Knapp will build the offense around CP not vice versa.
The end
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Jesusraiderjim Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Wasn’t STEALTH the kind of D we ran last 9 years? Just askin.
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I guess you can say the D was STEALTH as in invisible…
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
How about converting Taiwan Jones to a slot WR? He could be our Wes Welker. Get him in the open against a safety or LB and it should be lights out.
Picture an O-line giving CP to check out ALL receivers in the pattern. Ford, D-Wow & DHB with Boss & Reece out of the backfield all breaking into the open. CP could have a field day.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Re: DVD
He has the “Routts,”…the proclivity to face check his opponent, sometimes hand check, the inability to look back at the ball as it arrives. Hard to re-train.
Also, too skinny. 10 pounds? Will that do it?
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Timed that right.
Usually start to get excited about the A’s this time of year but that isn’t very exciting. The future looks bleak. Go Raiders!
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Not even w/ “Mannyhood” in town?
lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Thec!
What up brother?!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Shaub is a pretty good compairison to cp3.. Better than bledsoe.. The O will be fine..
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Sign Rich Gannon as QB coach
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Did talk to Rich Gannon informally for a few minutes on a break from his Sirius radio show. He’s excited about the potential change in culture. I asked him if he thought Carson Palmer would be a fit for Greg Knapp’s offense and Gannon said he thought it would be fine with a few tweaks.
Gannon thinks Palmer’s skill set is roughly similar to that of Matt Schwab, who flourished under Knapp with the Houston Texans.
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I agree – however
what does Rich Gannon know about Greg Knapp or Matt Schaub?
His take is about as valid as ours
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Good afternoon sports fans !!!
how the hell are you all ??
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
21.JB Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
How about converting Taiwan Jones to a slot WR? He could be our Wes Welker. Get him in the open against a safety or LB and it should be lights out.
Picture an O-line giving CP to check out ALL receivers in the pattern. Ford, D-Wow & DHB with Boss & Reece out of the backfield all breaking into the open. CP could have a field day.
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Its a little more complicated than that brother. If it were that easy Reggie Bush would have been a slot reciever after his first season
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
RIPAL Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Sign Rich Gannon as QB coach
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Sign me as the water boy!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Did talk to Rich Gannon informally for a few minutes on a break from his Sirius radio show. He’s excited about the potential change in culture. I asked him if he thought Carson Palmer would be a fit for Greg Knapp’s offense and Gannon said he thought it would be fine with a few tweaks.
Gannon thinks Palmer’s skill set is roughly similar to that of Matt Schwab, who flourished under Knapp with the Houston Texans.
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I agree – however
what does Rich Gannon know about Greg Knapp or Matt Schaub?
His take is about as valid as ours
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I believe a lot of the semi’s on this blog could do a pretty good show on sirius radio and pretty amusing to boot!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
#11 :”If we keep Bush someone needs to teach him how to block.”
He doesn’t want to learn. He feels that’s his insurance–”I can’t block, so I have to be your lead back.”
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Good afternoon sports fans !!!
how the hell are you all ??
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I’m good.
Just devoured my lunch.
Wassup w/ you Mike?
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
His take is about as valid as ours
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LMAO.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
27. I think gannon might be qualified as an expert in the west coast offense and quarterbacking..
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
I agree – however
what does Rich Gannon know about Greg Knapp or Matt Schaub?
His take is about as valid as ours
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So you’re saying he’s on to something
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
YES I KNOW ROCSSTAR.EVEN WITH QUESTIONABLE COACHING,MCFADDEN WOULD HAVE BEEN THE DIFFERANCE BETWEEN A DIV CHAMPIONSHIP AND SITTING HOME..
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
I agree – however
what does Rich Gannon know about Greg Knapp or Matt Schaub?
His take is about as valid as ours
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umm, Rich Gannon was a professional QB, I think he is slightly more qualified than we are to judge if a QB can fit a system or not.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
32. Exactly! Ding ding ding! Bye bye bushy
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
I believe a lot of the semi’s on this blog could do a pretty good show on sirius radio and pretty amusing to boot!
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HB,
I agree!
I would listen to guys like Dakota, JFB, YA, BCZ, Jhill & Duck on the radio chatting Raider football.
Seems like a good blend of characters
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
HairyBush-pretty amusing is one way to put it.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
HairyBush-pretty amusing is one way to put it.
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lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Did talk to Rich Gannon informally for a few minutes on a break from his Sirius radio show. He’s excited about the potential change in culture. I asked him if he thought Carson Palmer would be a fit for Greg Knapp’s offense and Gannon said he thought it would be fine with a few tweaks.
Gannon thinks Palmer’s skill set is roughly similar to that of Matt Schwab, who flourished under Knapp with the Houston Texans.
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What kind of tweaks? Knapp was a QB coach with The Texans, so it wasn’t his offense.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
I think gannon might be qualified as an expert in the west coast offense and quarterbacking..
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Bucs Defense made him look like Jay Cutler, but I still appreciate his contributions to the silver & black
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Rb’s practically grow on trees.. Bush is gone
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Bush doesn’t pick up his blitzing assignment for the same reason he refused to be a fullback when we desperately needed him to… if he isn’t “The Man” he isn’t playing.
If the Raiders waste any premium money on him, I am going to have serious doubts about the new management. We should be able to find a 6th round RB as big as he is that could do the same thing. We will miss his hands though…
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
I believe a lot of the semi’s on this blog could do a pretty good show on sirius radio and pretty amusing to boot!
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HB,
I agree!
I would listen to guys like Dakota, JFB, YA, BCZ, Jhill & Duck on the radio chatting Raider football.
Seems like a good blend of characters
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Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
whats up DMAC ?? day off today , so i am drinking my lunch !!
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Knapp was a QB coach with The Texans, so it wasn’t his offense.
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O,
I guess some Raider fans never heard of Gary Kubiak & Rick Dennison ???
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
44. I blame calahan for not running down the fks defense all day.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
whats up DMAC ?? day off today , so i am drinking my lunch !!
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Lucky fker
lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
day off today , so i am drinking my lunch !!
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It has to be a day off to do that? woops.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
#1 Who would replace Wimbley?
#2 What CB would you target in FA thats in our price range?
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A starting CB would replace half of Wimbley’s salary. Not sure of who the FA corners are out there.
Curry or a draft pick can play OLB for us in the 3-4 in place of Wimbley.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
why yes i am !!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable.
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No way! Has to be TV, you guys up for a cable access show, it will be like a “evil” Superfans…
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
“44. I blame calahan for not running down the fks defense all day.”
I agree 100% with a healthy dose of Wheatly and Garner I saw no need to have Gannon throw more than 20 passes all game.
How can you not change the game plan when you are playing the coach who invented y9our game plan DUH!
Had to be the dumbest coach in football.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
What kind of tweaks?
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Shotgun, no huddle, more deep routes
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable
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HB,
I would also listen to Hwnrdr, Silver, DMAC, G123, Dutch & Mike on the radio chatting Raider football.
Seems like another good blend of characters imo
Right?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Gannon wasnt saying knapp ran their offense. Just that he worked with a guy similar to carson palmer. And that shwab did well in the wco.. The tweaks” would be putting in more plays that cp3 likes..
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable.
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No way! Has to be TV, you guys up for a cable access show, it will be like a “evil” Superfans…
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Even better, Cable access watch out, The dark side is coming!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable
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HB,
I would also listen to Hwnrdr, Silver, DMAC, G123, Dutch & Mike on the radio chatting Raider football.
Seems like another good blend of characters imo
Right?
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Thank you sir.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
here ya go Jhill NFL free agent DBs
2012 NFL Free AgentsHere’s an early look at next years group of NFL free agents.
•Notable players are highlighted in “Blue“•Free Agency starts March 13th
•Franchise Tag Totals•Top 50 Free Agents
Quarterbacks:
Richard Bartel – ARI (R)
Chris Redman ATL
Jake Delhomme – CLE
Kyle Orton – KC
Brady Quinn – DEN
Shaun Hill – DET
Drew Stanton – DET
Matt Flynn – GB
Tyler Palko – KC (R)
Chad Henne – MIA
Brian Hoyer – NE (R)
Chase Daniel – NO (R)
Drew Brees – NO
Sage Rosenfels – NYG
Mark Brunell – NYJ
Kevin O’Connell – NYJ (R)
Kyle Boller – OAK
Jason Campbell – OAK
Charlie Batch – PIT
Byron Leftwich – PIT
Dennis Dixon – PIT
Charlie Whitehurst – SEA
David Carr – SF
Alex Smith – SF
A.J. Feeley – STL
Josh Johnson – TB
Vince Young – PHI
Rex Grossman – WAS
David Garrard
Running Backs:
LaRod Stephens-Howling – ARI (R)
Chester Taylor – ARI
Gartrell Johnson – ATL (R)
Jason Snelling – ATL
Jason McKie – BAL
Ray Rice – BAL
Tashard Choice – BUF
Tyrell Sutton – CAR (R)
Jerome Felton – CAR
Matt Forte – CHI
Kahlil Bell – CHI (R)
Chris Pressley – CIN (R)
Fui Vakapuna – CIN (R)
Peyton Hillis – CLE
Spencer Larsen – DEN
LenDale White – DEN
Maurice Morris – DET
Aaron Brown – DET (R)
Ryan Grant – GB
Derrick Ward – HOU
Brock Bolen – JAC (R)
Thomas Jones – KC
Steve Slaton – MIA
Deon Anderson – MIA
Lorenzo Booker – MIN
Michael Bush – OAK
Rock Cartwright – OAK
Thomas Clayton – NE (R)
LaDainian Tomlinson – NYJ
Mewelde Moore – PIT
Isaac Redman – PIT (R)
Jacob Hester – SD
Mike Tolbert – SD
Justin Forsett – SEA
Marshawn Lynch – SEA
Brit Miller – STL (R)
Cadillac Williams – STL
Jerious Norwood – STL
Earnest Graham – TB
Kregg Lumpkin – TB (R)
Fullbacks:
Le’Ron McClain – KC
Lousaka Polite – MIA
Jeff Dugan – MIN
Owen Schmitt – PHI
Moran Norris – SF
Earnest Graham – TB
Wide Receivers:
Early Doucet – ARI
Harry Douglas – ATL
Eric Weems – ATL
Brandon Jones – BAL
Roscoe Parrish – BUF
Steve Johnson – BUF
Wallace Wright – CAR
Legedu Naanee – CAR
Earl Bennett – CHI
Roy Williams – CHI
Andre Caldwell – CIN
Jerome Simpson – CIN
Demetrius Williams – CLE
Kevin Ogletree – DAL (R)
Laurent Robinson – DAL
Eddie Royal – DEN
Matt Willis – DEN (R)
Bryant Johnson – DET
Rashied Davis – DET
Derrick Williams – DET (R)
Stefan Logan – DET (R)
David Anderson – HOU
Anthony Gonzalez – IND
Reggie Wayne – IND
Pierre Garcon – IND
Tiquan Underwood – JAC (R)
Mike Sims-Walker – JAC
Jerheme Urban – KC
Dwayne Bowe – KC
Greg Camarillo – MIN
Juaquin Iglesias – MIN
Devin Aromashodu – MIN
Bernard Berrian – MIN
Deion Branch – NE
Wes Welker – NE
Matt Slater – NE
Marques Colston – NO
Robert Meachem – NO
Devin Thomas – NYG
Domenik Hixon – NYG
Mario Manningham – NYG
Plaxico Burress – NYJ
Chaz Schilens – OAK
Derek Hagan – OAK
DeSean Jackson – PHI
Limas Sweed – PIT
Arnaz Battle – PIT
Jerricho Cotchery – PIT
Mike Wallace – PIT (R)
Patrick Crayton – SD
Craig Davis – SD
Vincent Jackson – SD
Isaiah Stanback – SEA
Ted Ginn Jr – SF
Braylon Edwards – SF
Josh Morgan – SF
Dominique Zeigler – SF
Donnie Avery – STL
Danny Amendola – STL (R)
Brandon Lloyd – STL
Micheal Spurlock – TB
Justin Gage – TEN
Kevin Curtis – TEN
Donnie Avery – TEN
Malcolm Kelly – WAS
Roydell Williams – WAS
Tight Ends:
Mike Leach – ARI
Justin Peelle – ATL
Joe Zelenka – ATL
David Martin – BUF
Scott Chandler – BUF
Gary Barnidge – CAR
Jeremy Shockey – CAR
Richie Brockel – CAR
Kellen Davis – CHI
Chase Coffman – CIN (R)
Garrett Mills – CIN
Bo Scaife – CIN
Alex Smith – CLE
Martellus Bennett – DAL
Martin Rucker – DAL
Daniel Graham – DEN
Daniel Coats – DEN
Joel Dreessen – HOU
Marcedes Lewis – JAC
Jacob Tamme – IND
Jake O’Connell – KC (R)
Visanthe Shiancoe – MIN
Jim Kleinsasser – MIN
Alge Crumpler – NE
Bear Pascoe – NYG (R)
Ben Hartsock – NYJ
Matthew Mulligan – NYJ (R)
David Johnson – PIT (R)
Chris Baker – SEA
John Carlson – SEA
Kory Sperry – SD (R)
Randy McMichael – SD
Kris Wilson – SD
Justin Peelle – SF
Billy Bajema – STL
Craig Stevens – TEN
Fred Davis – WAS
Donald Lee
Offensive Tackles:
Levi Brown – ARI
D’Anthony Batiste – ARI
Brandon Keith – ARI
Mark LeVoir – BAL
Demetrius Bell – BUF
Erik Pears – BUF
Geoff Schwartz – CAR (R)
Garry Williams – CAR (R)
Herman Johnson – CHI (R)
Kevin Shaffer – CHI
Andrew Gardner – CIN
Anthony Collins – CIN
Jeff Backus – DET
Tony Ugoh – DET
Corey Hilliard – DET (R)
Mark Tauscher
James Williams – IND
Guy Whimper – JAC
Barry Richardson – KC
Allen Barbre – MIA
Vernon Carey – MIA
Lydon Murtha – MIA (R)
Cullen Loeffler – MIN
Kareem McKenzie – NYG
Robert Turner – NYJ
Khalif Barnes – OAK
Stephon Heyer – OAK
King Dunlap – PHI
Ramon Foster – PIT (R)
Max Starks – PIT
Jared Gaither – SD
Brandyn Dombrowski – SD (R)
William Robinson – SEA (R)
Adam Snyder – SF
Alex Boone – SF (R)
Adam Goldberg – STL
James Lee – TB
Mike Otto – TEN
Mike Williams – WAS
Guards:
Deuce Lutui – ARI
Ben Grubbs – BAL
Chad Rinehart – BUF
Kraig Urbik – BUF (R)
Mackenzy Bernadeau – CAR
Roberto Garza – CHI
Bobbie Williams – CIN
Jason Shirley – CIN (R)
Nate Livings – CIN
Mike McGlynn – CIN
Steve Vallos – CLE
John Greco – CLE
Montrae Holland – DAL
Derrick Dockery – DAL
Russ Hochstein – DEN
Donald Thomas – DET
Jamey Richard – IND
Ryan Diem – IND
Jaimie Thomas – IND
Vincent Manuwai – JAC
Daniel Connolly – NE
Stephen Neal – NE
Carl Nicks – NO
Stacy Andrews – NYG
Mike McGlynn – PHI
Evan Mathis – PHI
Trai Essex – PIT
Ramon Foster – PIT (R)
Paul Fanaika – SEA
Mike Gibson – SEA (R)
Chilo Rachal – SF
Jacob Bell – STL
John Malecki – TB
Jeremy Zuttah – TB
Jake Scott – TEN
Will Montgomery – WAS
Kory Lichtensteiger – WAS
Centers:
Todd McClure – ATL
Matt Birk – BAL
Andre Gurode – BAL
Ryan Pontbriand – CLE
Don Muhlbach – DET
Scott Wells – GB
Chris Myers – HOU
Jon Weeks – HOU (R)
Jeff Saturday – IND
Casey Wiegmann – KC
Joe Berger – MIA
Jon Cooper – MIN (R)
Cullen Loeffler – MIN
John Sullivan – MIN
Dan Koppen – NE
Matt Katula – NE
Ryan Wendell – NE (R)
Shaun O’Hara – NYG
Samson Steele – OAK
Nick Hardwick – SD
David Binn – SD
Scott Mruczkowski – SD
Chris White – SEA
Eric Heitmann – SF
Ken Amato – TEN
Fernando Velasco – TEN (R)
Kory Lichtensteiger – WAS
Will Montgomery – WAS
Olin Kreutz
Defensive Lineman:
Calais Campbell – ARI
Vonnie Holliday – ARI
John Abraham – ATL
Kroy Biermann – ATL
Cory Redding – BAL
Hilee Taylor – CAR
Israel Idonije – CHI
Victor Adeyanju – CIN
Frostee Rucker – CIN
Ahtyba Rubin – CLE
Marcus Benard – CLE
Louis Leonard – DEN
Derrick Harvey – DEN
Jason Hunter – DEN
Mario Williams – HOU
DeMario Pressley – IND (R)
Robert Mathis – IND
John Gill – IND (R)
Tyler Brayton – IND
Jamaal Anderson – IND
Jeremy Mincey – JAC
Matt Roth – JAC
Wallace Gilberry – KC
Lionel Dotson – MIA
Igor Olshansky – MIA
Kendall Langford – MIA
Phillip Merling – MIA
Jimmy Kennedy – MIN
Eric Moore – NE
Shaun Ellis – NE
Andre Carter – NE
Alex Brown – NO
Dave Tollefson – NYG
Jarron Gilbert – NYJ (R)
Ropati Pitoitua – NYJ (R)
Trevor Scott – OAK
Jarvis Moss – OAK
Juqua Parker – PHI
Victor Abiamiri – PHI
Aaron Smith – PIT
Chris Hoke – PIT
Raheem Brock – SEA
E.J. Wilson – TB
Michael Bennett – TB (R)
Kareem Brown – TEN (R)
William Hayes – TEN
Dave Ball – TEN
Marcus Howard – TEN (R)
Jason Jones – TEN
Ma’ake Kemoeatu – WAS
Anthony Bryant – WAS
Adam Carriker – WAS
Phillip Daniels – WAS
Kedric Golston – WAS
Defensive Tackles:
Vance Walker – ATL (R)
Brandon McKinney – BAL
Amobi Okoye – CHI
Jon Fanene – CIN
Pat Sims – CIN
Brodrick Bunkley – DEN
Ryan McBean – DEN (R)
Marcus Thomas – DEN
Andre Fluellen – DET
Sammie Lee Hill – DET (R)
Howard Green – GB
Shaun Cody – HOU
Eric Foster – IND
Nate Collins – JAC
Leger Douzable – JAC
C.J. Mosley – JAC
Kelly Gregg – KC
Paul Soliai – MIA
Letroy Guion – MIN
Fred Evans – MIN
Aubrayo Franklin – NO
Shaun Rogers – NO
Sione Pouha – NYJ
Trevor Laws – PHI
Antonio Dixon – PHI
Antonio Garay – SD
Red Bryant – SEA
Gary Gibson – STL
Frank Okam – TB
Linebackers:
Clark Haggans – ARI
Will Davis – ARI (R)
Gerald Hayes – ARI
Curtis Lofton – ATL
Jarret Johnson – BAL
Brendon Ayanbadejo – BAL
Dannell Ellerbe – BAL (R)
Andra Davis – BUF
Reggie Torbor – BUF
Kirk Morrison – BUF
Garrison Sanborn – BUF (R)
Dan Connor – CAR
Thomas Williams – CAR (R)
Hunter Hillenmeyer – CHI
Brian Iwuh – CHI
Manny Lawson – CIN
Eric Alexander – CLE
Chris Gocong – CLE
D’Qwell Jackson – CLE
Titus Brown – CLE (R)
Keith Brooking – DAL
Bradie James – DAL
Anthony Spencer – DAL
Mario Haggan – DEN
Jason Hunter – DEN
Joe Mays – DEN
Wesley Woodyard – DEN
David Veikune – DEN (R)
Jordon Dizon – DET
DeAndre Levy – DET (R)
Isaiah Ekejiuba – DET
Cody Brown- DET
Bobby Carpenter – DET
Stephen Tulloch – DET
Ashlee Palmer – DET (R)
DeAndre Levy – DET (R)
Erik Walden – GB
Diyral Briggs – GB (R)
Xavier Adibi – HOU
Stanford Keglar – HOU
Jesse Nading – HOU (R)
Cody Glenn – IND (R)
Ernie Sims – IND
Philip Wheeler – IND
Zac Diles – IND
Russell Allen – JAC (R)
Alvin Bowen – JAC (R)
Slade Norris – JAC (R)
Jovan Belcher – KC (R)
Channing Crowder – MIA
Ikaika Alama-Francis – MIA
Heath Farwell – MIN
Erin Henderson – MIN
Xavier Adibi – MIN
E.J. Henderson – MIN
Kenny Onatolu – MIN (R)
Gary Guyton – NE
Tracy White – NE
Marques Murrell – NE
Rob Ninkovich – NE
Jason Kyle – NO
Jonathan Goff – NYG
Alex Hall – NYG
Bryan Thomas – NYJ
Jamaal Westerman – NYJ (R)
Quentin Groves – OAK
Darryl Blackstock – OAK
Stephen Cooper – SD
Na’il Diggs – SD
David Hawthorne – SEA
Matt McCoy – SEA
Ahmad Brooks – SF
Larry Grant – SF
Tavares Gooden – SF
Blake Costanzo – SF
Bryan Kehl – STL
Chris Chamberlain – STL
Brady Poppinga – STL
Ben Leber – STL
David Nixon – STL (R)
Jon Alston – TB
Geno Hayes – TB
Patrick Bailey – TB
Tim Shaw – TEN
Rocky McIntosh – WAS
London Fletcher – WAS
Defensive backs:
Richard Marshall – ARI
Greg Toler – ARI (R)
Kelvin Hayden – ATL
Brent Grimes – ATL
Marcus Paschal – BAL (R)
Lardarius Webb – BAL (R)
Reggie Corner – BUF
Charles Godfrey – CAR
Cletis Gordon – CAR
Zackary Bowman – CHI
Tim Jennings – CHI
Corey Graham – CHI
Adam Jones – CIN
Fred Bennett – CIN
Rico Murray – CIN (R)
Jonathan Wade – CIN
Reggie Nelson – CIN
Kelly Jennings – CIN
Coye Francies – CLE (R)
Orlando Scandrick – DAL
Alan Ball – DAL
Chevis Jackson – DEN
Jack Williams – DET
Eric Wright – DET
Jarrett Bush – GB
Patrick Lee – GB
Jason Allen – HOU
Antwaun Molden – HOU
Quintin Demps – HOU
Eugene Wilson – HOU
Jacob Lacey – IND (R)
Justin Tryon – IND
Rashean Mathis – JAC
Michael Hamlin – JAC (R)
Terrence Wheatley – JAC
Brandon Carr – KC
Will Allen – MIA
Benny Sapp – MIA
Tyrone Culver – MIA
Bret Lockett – NE
Jonathan Wilhite – NE
James Sanders – NE
Antwaun Molden – NE
Randall Gay – NO
Tracy Porter – NO
Michael Coe – NYG
Bruce Johnson – NYG (R)
Aaron Ross – NYG
Terrell Thomas – NYG
Marquice Cole – NYJ (R)
Donald Strickland – NYJ
Stanford Routt – OAK
Jamar Wall – PHI
Marlin Jackson – PHI
Keenan Lewis – PIT (R)
William Gay – PIT
Bryant McFadden – PIT
Quinton Teal – SD
Roy Lewis – SEA (R)
Marcus Trufant – SEA
Carlos Rogers – SF
Al Harris – STL
Ronde Barber – TB
Dominique Johnson – TB (R)
Elbert Mack – TB
Cortland Finnegan – TEN
Vincent Fuller – TEN
Chris Horton – WAS
Kareem Moore – WAS
Byron Westbrook – WAS (R)
Reggie Nelson – CIN
Derrick Martin
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Oops. that was supposed to just be the DBs. Sorry
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable
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HB,
I would also listen to Hwnrdr, Silver, DMAC, G123, Dutch & Mike on the radio chatting Raider football.
Seems like another good blend of characters imo
Right?
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It would be far better than the sports talk I am currently subjected to, without a doubt.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Oops. that was supposed to just be the DBs. Sorry
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That just took up a little space.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
56. yup. Stupidest game plan ever.. One of the worst days of my life..
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
LOL @ BCZ
somebody is trying to compete with Mistic & HD37 for “longest comment of the month”
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
LOL @ BCZ
somebody is trying to compete with Mistic & HD37 for “longest comment of the month”
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maybe I’ll post the Raiders all time list of players, coaches and staff.lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
maybe I’ll post the Raiders all time list of players, coaches and staff
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HB,
the list of Head Coaches since Al Davis took over is pretty lengthy. I think Kell has that one memorized
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Marks hair Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
56. yup. Stupidest game plan ever.. One of the worst days of my life..
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Ah the superbowl against the Bucs aka Raider fans on suicide watch. BAD day to say the least.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Finally a new post about…nothing!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
#64.. Bcz24.. lol lol lol
now let the shopping begin !!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
@Rockstar
Do you go out for turkey season?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Finally a new post about…nothing!
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lmao
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
With finnley off the market I guess the talk about a fa TE is over. I like our rooks from last yr anyway..
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Maybe we should sign William Gay so Sullivan44 can finally wear that jersey in his closet to the games without being harrassed?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Maybe we should sign William Gay so Sullivan44 can finally wear that jersey in his closet to the games without being harrassed?
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let’s face it he will be harrassed either way. rightfully so.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
76. Ha!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Do you go out for turkey season?
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@HB
you know it, but turkey season in Podunk doesn’t open until April
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RRS
Have you ever done any day trading?
I would love to host a radio show about the FOREX market!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
“RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Maybe we should sign William Gay so Sullivan44 can finally wear that jersey in his closet to the games without being harrassed?”
Great post!
I am seriously LOL
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Have you ever done any day trading?
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@Silver
nope. not really my thing bro
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
The Combine should be riveting to Raider Fans, since our first pick is in the 5th round. (sarcasm)
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Do you go out for turkey season?
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@HB
you know it, but turkey season in Podunk doesn’t open until April
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same here, I was considering tryin it this year, never to early to practice your calls. In the past I just went out for deer, pheasent and squirrel. Who knows maybe I’ll give it a try. Then I can add it to my list of game meats that I have prepared and turned peoples opinions around on something that they thought would be gross.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The Combine should be riveting to Raider Fans, since our first pick is in the 5th round. (sarcasm)
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@Kell
for once, we may not have a high enough draft pick to select the guy with the fastest 40 time, even if we wanted to!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Im thinking porters got to be a top candidate for us right? We need a corner, hes worked with Allen and he isnt the top cb fa..
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
next years off season should be a lot more exciting between the draft and maybe spending some cash on some decent free agents.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
same here, I was considering tryin it this year, never to early to practice your calls. In the past I just went out for deer, pheasent and squirrel. Who knows maybe I’ll give it a try. Then I can add it to my list of game meats that I have prepared and turned peoples opinions around on something that they thought would be gross
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do it, HB!
I usually breast it out and then bread & fry it like chicken… or you can wrap in in bacon and grill it (like deer) with some seasoning I use called KICKIN’ CHICKEN
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
We have compensatory picks coming. If you weren’t stuck on stupid you would have thought about that before trying to be the sour grapes old goat that you are.
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KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
The Combine should be riveting to Raider Fans, since our first pick is in the 5th round. (sarcasm)
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
@Kell
for once, we may not have a high enough draft pick to select the guy with the fastest 40 time, even if we wanted to!
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Well, With Al Davis out, a lot of those guys might fall to us anyways. Lol.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Almost as riveting as your anniversary you spent on here blogging?
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KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
The Combine should be riveting to Raider Fans, since our first pick is in the 5th round. (sarcasm)
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Well, it’s take the class clown, long, did it?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Say that again with your teeth in.
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KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Well, it’s take the class clown, long, did it?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
next years off season should be a lot more exciting between the draft and maybe spending some cash on some decent free agents.
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this offseason might be pretty doggone exciting with all the roster bonuses due to the guys on our roster next month. I’m expecting a few surprise cuts. I’m also expecting some renegotiated contracts and cheap FA signings
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Look out for Devon wylie from fresno st to run the top time.. Maybe top 3. Wr/kr/pr. Ran a 4.25 a couple yrs ago. Looks like welker on a diet.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I see about 20 turkeys every morning on my way to work, about 7 Toms tryin to get laid struttin around with their feathers up. Pretty cool to look at. Saw a All white hawk yesterday too. We call it the Albino hawk. A regular Nat Geo moment.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Thec!
What up brother?!
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Whats good Bruh??? Hope all is well.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Well, With Al Davis out, a lot of those guys might fall to us anyways
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good point Kell.
It’ll be interesting to see if Reggie drafts any height/weight/speed guys like Al used to …
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I usually breast it out and then bread & fry it like chicken… or you can wrap in in bacon and grill it (like deer) with some seasoning I use called KICKIN’ CHICKEN
——————everything is better with bacon!
my friend made a potpie with the turkey he got, Only differnce I noticed is it was maybe a tad tougher than store bought turkey, other than that it was good.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
this offseason might be pretty doggone exciting with all the roster bonuses due to the guys on our roster next month. I’m expecting a few surprise cuts. I’m also expecting some renegotiated contracts and cheap FA signings
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Who do you foree as maybe renegotiating?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I see about 20 turkeys every morning on my way to work, about 7 Toms tryin to get laid struttin around with their feathers up. Pretty cool to look at. Saw a All white hawk yesterday too. We call it the Albino hawk. A regular Nat Geo moment
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Never seen a white hawk before, must look pretty cool.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Gannon thinks Palmer’s skill set is roughly similar to that of Matt Schwab, who flourished under Knapp with the Houston Texans.
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Once again we can listen to a 15 year NFL league MVP vet, or we can listen to some of you here. I wonder who has more cred??
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
1. RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable
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HB,
I would also listen to Hwnrdr, Silver, DMAC, G123, Dutch & Mike on the radio chatting Raider football.
Seems like another good blend of characters imo
Right?
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Thank you sir! Feelihg’s mutual.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
my friend made a potpie with the turkey he got, Only differnce I noticed is it was maybe a tad tougher than store bought turkey, other than that it was good
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Yup. could have been an old boss hen or gobbler
shoot a young hen or jake? wow!
thats good eatin’
by the way, I suggest Spring turkey hunting over Fall turkey hunting to start out. the birds are more responsive to calls & decoys. Also bigger, for some reason, but you can only hunt until like 1pm
In the fall, you can hunt into evening, but you pretty much gotta scout it out and find where they are roosting. Then hide out in the timber and shoot them on the way there
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
my friend made a potpie with the turkey he got, Only differnce I noticed is it was maybe a tad tougher than store bought turkey, other than that it was good
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Yup. could have been an old boss hen or gobbler
shoot a young hen or jake? wow!
thats good eatin’
by the way, I suggest Spring turkey hunting over Fall turkey hunting to start out. the birds are more responsive to calls & decoys. Also bigger, for some reason, but you can only hunt until like 1pm
In the fall, you can hunt into evening, but you pretty much gotta scout it out and find where they are roosting. Then hide out in the timber and shoot them on the way there
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thanks for the tips, I think I’m going to give it a shot. (literally)
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Schaub to Palmer- pretty fair comparison other than I don’t think Palmer knows how t look for a te, and Schaub’s Te is the #2 recieving threat on their team.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
58.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who’s in charge over there at sirius radio? Let’s get them on the phone and make this happen!
It would make prep time more tolerable
***
HB,
I would also listen to Hwnrdr, Silver, DMAC, G123, Dutch & Mike on the radio chatting Raider football.
Seems like another good blend of characters imo
Right?
Thank you good sir!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
good ole Podunk. Good hunting.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Who do you foree as maybe renegotiating?
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Wishful thinking?
Kelly, Seymour, Wimbley, McClain, Curry & Huff. Heck – maybe even Henderson, Eugene & CJ37
Then Branch accepts a reasonable contract offer.
Honestly – I have no idea, but anybody who agrees to step up and take less money while prouding playing for the Raiders and embracing the new staff and systems is cool with me to return
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I’m sorry, I don’t see the comparison of Schwab to CP3.
What, they’re both white….and?
One’s nothing like the other, imo.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I’m sorry, I don’t see the comparison of Schwab to CP3.
What, they’re both white….and?
One’s nothing like the other, imo.
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Sort of like comparing Terrelle Pryor to Vince Young or Kordell Stewart!
i’m the redneck and i’m calling YOU PEOPLE racists, lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
jason Campbell, QB, Oakland Raiders. I admit, I love this guy. He’s as good a dude as there is in the league, a tireless worker, totally dedicated to football, who has learned to become a more vocal leader. He also has some of the worst luck I’ve ever seen. Make no mistake, Campbell’s humility, perseverance and performance had everything to do with the Raiders overcoming adverse conditions to finish 2010 with an 8-8 record. Campbell followed that up with a 4-2 start before suffering what would become a season-ending broken collarbone.
He’s able to throw now and should be fully healthy well before organized team activities begin. Any squad looking for an exemplary No. 2, someone who is more than qualified to be the No. 1 and can push most starters in this league, had better look at Campbell. He has experience in the Coryell- and Walsh-style offenses — though he is a better fit for the vertical game — and is a free agent for the first time. A strong athlete who led Auburn to an undefeated season, he throws a great deep ball and has managed to learn a new offense with a new coordinator almost every year since his early college days.
Other than Matt Flynn (who will get legitimate starter money), to me, Campbell is the best quarterback poised to hit free agency (I’m not counting New Orleans’ Drew Brees or San Francisco’s Alex Smith, who aren’t going anywhere). Campbell would make a lot of sense for the New York Jets, while if the Steelers go in a different direction from current backups Dennis Dixon, Charlie Batch and Byron Leftwich, Pittsburgh might be a heck of a landing spot, too. Dallas needs to replace backup Jon Kitna, and Seattle or Philadelphia might be able to use Campbell as well. He is a viable starter. Kyle Orton is the only other bridge quarterback available that I’d put in Campbell’s neighborhood.
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this article was on NFL.com, I thought Mistic wrote it, Sounds like the writer wants to have a love affair with Campbell. He is definetley wrong about Jason having a nice deep ball. Did he watch Raider games?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I want us to let Bush walk and use that money to sign Marshawn Lynch.
Imagine Mcfadden and Lynch, being a new millennium version of Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson.
With a slightly retooled offensive line and one more lead receiver to go with Denarius Moore, tell me that opposing defenses wouldn’t crap their pants thinking about facing our offense!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I guess Gannon was referring to the fact, that both of them aren’t very mobile.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Campbell has never thrown a nice deep ball. Unless you count ones caught by people five yards out of bounds.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Dakota Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Campbell has never thrown a nice deep ball. Unless you count ones caught by people five yards out of bounds
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exactly
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I was just looking over some info and thinking about how crappy the Raiders defense was. I always wished the Raiders never tried their Trevor Scott to LB experiment and gave Thomas Howard the shaft. So I was curious to see what Howard did this past year, 99 F*N tackles and TWO forced fumbles. Put that into perspective, Romac as a MLB had 99. Wimbly had 63, Curry 46, Groves 24,all combined for ZERO forced fumbles oh and they were one of the worst defenses in the league. The bungholes were ranked 7th in totoal D, 10th against the run. Raiders, 27th against the run. So can somebody explain to me why the Raiders benched this guy, then let him go. It always bothered me, but seeing what he is doing now kind of pisses me off!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
There is a place where I live that you can go at sunset and the turkeys fly off this 150 ft ledge and down into the trees. It is the trippyest thing I ever seen.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
he throws a great deep ball
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He sure does, as long as one of the judging criteria isn’t that the deep ball be catchable.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I want us to let Bush walk and use that money to sign Marshawn Lynch.
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So, Bush misses a few key blocks yet still shows up all season when our star RB catches his yearly injury bug, and Marshawn Lynch only turns it up in December when his team is basically out of contention, and misses tons of blocks when he plays; yet you want to let Bush walk for that guy? At least put the Lynch has Bay ties in as a disclaimer so that statement makes a little more sense….
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I want us to let Bush walk and use that money to sign Marshawn Lynch.————————————
Thought Lynch and the seagulls were in negotiation?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
JB Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
How about converting Taiwan Jones to a slot WR? He could be our Wes Welker. Get him in the open against a safety or LB and it should be lights out.
Picture an O-line giving CP to check out ALL receivers in the pattern. Ford, D-Wow & DHB with Boss & Reece out of the backfield all breaking into the open. CP could have a field day.
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Because Jones isn’t McFadden, has questionable hands and worse patterns.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Re: Campbell
….he throws a great deep ball….
stopped reading right there.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
this article was on NFL.com, I thought Mistic wrote it, Sounds like the writer wants to have a love affair with Campbell. He is definetley wrong about Jason having a nice deep ball. Did he watch Raider games?
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LOL!
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Lynch isn’t going anywhere. The hawks want him bad.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
124 Maybe Mystic was the writers source. lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
121. Lynch is a self serving punk and over rated. Yeah, has highlight plays but also disappears. When hes on hes on, when hes not…
We;ve already got a guy like that in DMC. Might as well stand pat.
IF McFadden can play (RNS broke a story a month ago DMC’s career is in doubt)that changes things. You play if he gets dinged you ditch him after this season with only 1 yr left on that contract.
Who knows with Reggibald though?
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
124. Got that right. Soup over rated.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
More to my point…………..The Raiders defense was that bad with the 9th best offense this past year. The Bungholes defense was that good with the 20th rated offense. And Thomas howard was their leading tackler. Its a shame they had idiots for coaches who like to use DE’s as OLB’s.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
IF McFadden can play (RNS broke a story a month ago DMC’s career is in doubt)that changes things. You play if he gets dinged you ditch him after this season with only 1 yr left on that contract.
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Care to post a link to said story? I have heard absolutely nothing to corroborate that.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I love Rally’s fries.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Mike Bush is a first round talent. His broken leg has clearly healed and Oakland got him for a 4th round pick.
He slipped in protection but like McFadden, one of the most complete backs in the game.
Not sure Reggie and the new system values that though.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Sombody posted that Green-Ellis would be a good signing…I concur. You know the guy can pass-block…
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
127. I disagree about Lynch being overrated. If you go back and look at the games he goes over 20 rushing attempts, he is breaking off huge gains after about 15 or so carries. He gets better as the game goes on and they feed him more. Most backs wear down after so many carries, but Lynch is a punisher who takes advantge of tired defenses. He’s money in the 4th qtr. That’s why there’s no way Seattle will let him go.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
118.jesusraiderjim Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
There is a place where I live that you can go at sunset and the turkeys fly off this 150 ft ledge and down into the trees. It is the trippyest thing I ever seen.
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That happens off the hill behind my parent’s home. They jump off the top and kind of fly/float down and land in some Russian olive trees and then pig out on the “olives”. Much more graceful than they first appear lol.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Mistic = Jason La Canfora ???
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8272138c/article/undertheradar-players-will-be-bargains-on-the-market?module=HP11_content_stream
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
133. Agree if the price is cheap.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
130. Its somewhere on their site. The cat I spoke to at RNS on FB private message said they talekd to DMC himself and the guy is very worried whether he’ll ever play again.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Would rather have an average deep ball with JC than INT city with CP. Plus in the new wco you will see less deep balls and alot more dink and dunk which is JCs specialty.
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Did you hear about JC leaving his fiancee at the alter in the Caribbean, some 200 guest’s invited?
http://now.msn.com/now-plus/0221-campbell-fiancee-ditch.aspx?OCID=MSNNow_SEM_NowPlus_10001
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
127. I disagree about Lynch being overrated…He’s money in the 4th qtr. That’s why there’s no way Seattle will let him go.
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And if they do, that means the Raiders cannot afford to sign him (B/c he wants a HUGE contract). Wonder if Skittles is ponying up any money for him to stay in Seattle…
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
He slipped in protection but like McFadden, one of the most complete backs in the game.
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I just can’t agree with that. You can’t say he is a complete back when he is clearly awful in pass protection. He has proven he can’t handle a full season workload. His finished last season at a poor 3.8 ypc, and his career # is only 4.2 ypc. He isn’t a speedy guy, and struggles with off tackle running. I just don’t see how you can call him a ‘complete’ back.
He is a bruiser, very durable (missed little to no time with injuries)and doesn’t cough up the rock. I like Michael Bush as a #2 back, and will agree he suffered by the lack of depth behind him as the season wore on. If we retain him, I am ok with it, but not for the money he is looking for
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Ha ha! Contrary to what former Raider Qb Rich Gannon reported Peyton Manning’s picture has NOT been taken off the side of Lucas Oil Stadium.
Gannon’s gears slip now and again like when he says the word “ath-uh-leet”
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
It’s quitting time here 4PM. Catch ya’ll later. Be good.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Why does everybody assume the west coast offense means dont throw the ball beyond 7 yards? When the 49ers made it famous, they were always going deep. Jerry Rice didnt rack up stats catching “dink and dunk”. Gannon didnt throw for a million yards and become MVP throwing “dink and dunk”. The west coast offnese still includes deeper routs but utilizes motion and crossing routes more.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
133.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Sombody posted that Green-Ellis would be a good signing…I concur. You know the guy can pass-block…
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He is tops on my wish list for sure. Awesome blocker, just as punishing as Bush in the short yardage, very durable, NEVER fumbles (career ZERO fumbles in the NFL) a very good receiver… everything good about Bush PLUS the addition of being one of the best pass protecting RBs in the league.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Why does everybody assume the west coast offense means dont throw the ball beyond 7 yards? When the 49ers made it famous, they were always going deep. Jerry Rice didnt rack up stats catching “dink and dunk”. Gannon didnt throw for a million yards and become MVP throwing “dink and dunk”. The west coast offnese still includes deeper routs but utilizes motion and crossing routes more.
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Yeah, agree…cause Andre Johnson only catches short passes.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Mike Bush is a first round talent.
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Maybe in his mind he is.He is a decent RB,nothing more,nothing less.He can’t ,or should I say won’t,block,he can’t get around the edges,and he doesn’t run over people unless they are 190 lb. DBs.He is easily replaceable.Unless he signs for cheap,let him go.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
lol at rich gannon. this dude really thinks he is the ish when it comes to qbs’.
SOMEONE PLEASE REMIND THAT CLOWN THAT HE TURNED IN THE SINGLE WORSE SB PERFORMANCE OF ALL TIME!!!!!
Gannon is a joke
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Did you hear about JC leaving his fiancee at the alter in the Caribbean, some 200 guest’s invited?
http://now.msn.com/now-plus/0221-campbell-fiancee-ditch.aspx?OCID=MSNNow_SEM_NowPlus_10001
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LMFAO. Dont do it JC. It’s all downhill after marriage. If you want her to stop giving you BJs, then marry her is what I heard….and it is true.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
He is a bruiser, very durable (missed little to no time with injuries)and doesn’t cough up the rock. I like Michael Bush as a #2 back, and will agree he suffered by the lack of depth behind him as the season wore on. If we retain him, I am ok with it, but not for the money he is looking for
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Where has it been reported he’s looking for a huge number? If we offer him what he’s worth, there’s nothing wrong with that, and if he walks coo…but those that think we shouldn’t even offer dude anything in here are trippin’….or maybe they just didn’t notice the fact that Taiwan Jones acted like he didn’t even wanna be on the field after a few regular season tackles. Bush is a fighter and we need to keep him; straight up… And yes, he’s missed some blocks, but has gotten a lot better and isn’t as awful as some suggest in pass protection. It wasn’t like anyone else was in the backfield with Reece going out for passes more than half the time and Carson didn’t even really get hit like that late in the season, so please don’t be quick to judge because a couple bad plays stick out in your mind.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Wow Gannon is now a JOKE?
He is the only Raider QB along with that Oline that carried us to the SB in the past 30 yrs. He’s a joke alright. (smh with sarcasm)
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I want us to let Bush walk and use that money to sign Marshawn Lynch.
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So, Bush misses a few key blocks yet still shows up all season when our star RB catches his yearly injury bug, and Marshawn Lynch only turns it up in December when his team is basically out of contention, and misses tons of blocks when he plays; yet you want to let Bush walk for that guy? At least put the Lynch has Bay ties in as a disclaimer so that statement makes a little more sense….
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So S&B Bleeder-
Are you asserting that Michael Bush is a BETTER running back than Marshawn Lynch?
Please attempt to back up this claim, while 95% of this blog tries extremely hard to not laugh you out of cyberspace.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
CVRaider Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Why does everybody assume the west coast offense means dont throw the ball beyond 7 yards?
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Doesnt GB run a version of the WC offense? I see them having no problem going down field. Houston has no problem putting up big yds in their passing game either.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
aig-raiders Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Wow Gannon is now a JOKE?
He is the only Raider QB along with that Oline that carried us to the SB in the past 30 yrs. He’s a joke alright. (smh with sarcasm)
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5 miserable picks in the biggest game of his life, surrounded by hall of famers!!!!!
yes he is a joke, a very very bad joke
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Courtland finaggen and Curtis lofton in fa would be great pick ups
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Furthermore, Lynch is a FREE AGENT. And he is from Oakland. Born and raised.
If Bush is talking about getting 7-10 million a year, do you actually believe that we couldn’t entice Lynch to come back HOME to Oakland, especially if he WANTS to play for his hometown team?
I’m not saying that it IS going to happen. But I think the Raiders should make an offer to him.
Like I said Bo Jackson-Marcus Allen 2012 could be revisited here with Mcfadden and Lynch. What defense would want to tackle them for 4 quarters? And you avoid wear and tear on either rusher.
I see two 1000 yard rushers in that scenario.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Still no word why Jason Campbell and Jenny Montes decided to pull the plug on their wedding Saturday just hours before the ceremony. Guests of the NFL quarterback and his fiancee got the news (but no details) when they arrived in the Dominican Republic for the party.
A canceled wedding is hard personally, but usually doesn’t hurt your career. In Campbell’s case, it may have even helped, argues our sports-blogger colleague Cindy Boren: His moment in the news may remind football execs that Campbell is poised to become an unrestricted free agent next month, and that he’s recovered from the broken collarbone that ended his season with the Oakland Raiders.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
142. I just can’t agree with that. You can’t say he is a complete back when he is clearly awful in pass protection. He has proven he can’t handle a full season workload. His finished last season at a poor 3.8 ypc, and his career # is only 4.2 ypc. He isn’t a speedy guy, and struggles with off tackle running. I just don’t see how you can call him a ‘complete’ back.
He is a bruiser, very durable (missed little to no time with injuries)and doesn’t cough up the rock. I like Michael Bush as a #2 back, and will agree he suffered by the lack of depth behind him as the season wore on. If we retain him, I am ok with it, but not for the money he is looking for
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He is NOT clearly awful in protection. He had THREE plays where he was beaten 1 on 1 by a blitzer. Thats a regression.
He improved greatly from his rookie season and looked good the year b4 last.
Again, regressed but 5 other RB in the game you’d consider “complete”?
Which is it? “can’t handle a full season work load” or “very durable”?
His YPC came against Ds that keyed on him while Oakland struggled with no edge threats and their speed on the sideline. We can play the sin of ommision stat game all day but the fact is, Bush came in as a back up and in 10 games and Ds clearly loading up to stop him nearly gained 1,000 yds.
Hes a complete back because:
He CAN pass block
Run block
Run
Throw
Pass
Retain the ball ect ect.
He struggles off tackle cuz he weighs 250 lbs lol! Lets find a guy whos that big that has the speed to beat LBs and Safeties to the edge and sign him!
Bush is a find at RB and if DMC and he could stay healthy Oakland easily would’ve won more games and posted TWO 1,000 yd rushers.
Truth is, no telling if Reggie values RBs (at GB he didn’t and got by with lesser talent and a big passing game) but if Bush or DMC goes…
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Gannon had 5 picks in the super bowl because Gruden knew the damn plays. He designed the offense.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
sorry dmac and bush shopuld never be mentioned in the same post as marcus and bo, unless your telling peole not to do it
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
158. And that hes done nothing in his career to show he deserves starter money
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dont do it JC. It’s all downhill after marriage. If you want her to stop giving you BJs, then marry her is what I heard….and it is true
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@AIG
hey man, I’ve been married 5 years with a 15 month old at home and my marriage is still spicy!
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RaidO Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Gannon had 5 picks in the super bowl because Gruden knew the damn plays. He designed the offense.
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weak excuse. the opposing coach knowing your offense does not cause the qb to throw the ball to the defenders. a noodle arm and major choking mixed with bone headed decision making does.
Every team in football knew what we were going to do,bceause we had done for the whole year. We only ran about 8-9 plays that year on offense
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
160. Callahan’s an idiot and it cost us our rightful title
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
164. Really?! Granted Gruden knew the O but ran 8-9 plays all season?! Exagerrated for sure but c’mon.
How come everyone else struggled to stop us running 8-9 plays? Gannon threw for nearly 5,000 yds with less than 10 plays. C’mon…thats SB was an abberation and Callahan’s fault more than anyone.
When Oakland FINALLY instituted its original game plan in the 3rd it was too late but got results.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
160. Callahan’s an idiot and it cost us our rightful title
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true bill was / is a fool
but you have no shot when the qb throws 5 horrendous picks
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Callahan’s an idiot and it cost us our rightful title
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If we’re blaming the HC every time a QB throws an INT, I can see why Hue Jackson was canned and Palmer remains
Makes you wonder why Norv Turner & Lovie Smith weren’t axed!
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Callahan gets all the blame while the QB who was on the field and could have changed the plays at the LOS gets none?Very interesting.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
There’s a lot more miles on Marshawn Lynch.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Certainly not you after your famous “Anybody with half a brain can see JaMarcus is a franchise Qb”.
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Seymour Bush Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Once again we can listen to a 15 year NFL league MVP vet, or we can listen to some of you here. I wonder who has more cred??
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Bush broke bo’s record for most rb yards in a game this yr, McFadden never did that, just sayin.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
RaiderWeaponX Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
164. Really?! Granted Gruden knew the O but ran 8-9 plays all season?! Exagerrated for sure but c’mon.
How come everyone else struggled to stop us running 8-9 plays? Gannon threw for nearly 5,000 yds with less than 10 plays. C’mon…thats SB was an abberation and Callahan’s fault more than anyone.
When Oakland FINALLY instituted its original game plan in the 3rd it was too late but got results.
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its true, tim brown, rice and gannon, have all stated that the offense only ran 8-9 plays, only the sets and formations would change. this is why the offense was so precision they were vanilla, and focused on being great at a few plays.
Gannons nightmarish meltdown on the big stage was one of the major reasons for that debacle.
In fact gannon was bad in a few playoff games here to.
Gannon is looking up at neil odonnel, craig morten, and tony eason, as he posted the single most wretched sb performance in history
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Eagles close to signing Trent Edwards
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
APIt’s rare for a G.M. give much away on the podium at the Scouting Combine, but Eagles G.M. Howie Roseman made an exception Thursday.
Roseman strongly indicated that the team will sign quarterback Trent Edwards shortly.
Of course, Roseman could be open about it because Edwards isn’t exactly in high demand. He did not finish last season with a team.
The other big takeaway from Roseman’s session: He was more optimistic than ever about DeSean Jackson’s future in Philly.
“We’re excited about the future of DeSean Jackson in Philadelphia,” Roseman said.
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I guess Vince Young isn’t welcome in Philly?
Expect RM99 to make a pitch for him to be #2 QB in Oakland
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I want us to let Bush walk and use that money to sign Marshawn Lynch.
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So, Bush misses a few key blocks yet still shows up all season when our star RB catches his yearly injury bug, and Marshawn Lynch only turns it up in December when his team is basically out of contention, and misses tons of blocks when he plays; yet you want to let Bush walk for that guy? At least put the Lynch has Bay ties in as a disclaimer so that statement makes a little more sense….
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So S&B Bleeder-
Are you asserting that Michael Bush is a BETTER running back than Marshawn Lynch?
Please attempt to back up this claim, while 95% of this blog tries extremely hard to not laugh you out of cyberspace.
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The only part of this blog that would be laughing is the folks from the Bay who are showing blind loyalty simply ’cause of his roots and Cal ties (similar to the USC heads in here with Carson Palmer but thats another story – Lol). For all the good Lynch does, why is it we only hear from dude when his team’s season is over; and the only reason he beasted that one year late with his team in contention is ’cause that division was awful. Bush had 240+ from scrimmage this year when we had most of our weapons out there. If we could have only had our weapons on the field a majority of the year, he probably could’ve done that much more. It’s not his fault every playmaking receiver took turns being hurt so he was keyed on every play and wore down without the supposed true star not toughing out his injury to give him a breather…..
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
190 yd 9 iron Tiger????
Really????
That decision probably just cost you the match, bruh.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
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Where has it been reported he’s looking for a huge number?
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All reports I have read said he is looking to go somewhere to be a STARTER, which would mean he wants starting RB numbers. I would guess that would be pretty close to the 7 mill franchise number, perhaps a mill or two under it.
Is a person that averaged 3 yards a carry his last 6 games as starter worth 5-6 mill a year?
Only to a franchise that doesn’t know what they are doing. I assume he will end up somewhere with a clueless GM… the Rams or Seattle perhaps?
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
“190 yd 9 iron Tiger????
Really????
That decision probably just cost you the match, bruh.”
Tiger won his match today he is playing tomorrow at 1:15!
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
V young? garrard? YES PLAESE
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
With all due respect, the Raiders loss to Tampon Bay in the SB was because of Barret taking the wrong turn off on I-5 and landing in the Unicorn strip joint in Tijuana. Otherwise, with Turk at center the Raiders had no chance that day. Remember, Robbins was the last All-Pro the Raiders have had at any position since. Barret was great at picking up the defensive schemes and blitzes, and call the appropriate line blocking scheme. Dan Turk, although a savvy veteran, was more a long snapper. It would amount to Condo starting in the biggest game of season.
But, yes to glorify Gannon is ridiculous, back in the day he was better known as the “back-up,” and was only able to flourish late in his career because of the Gruden/Callahan system. Gannon was able to fit the WCO to his ability, he was best at dunk and dink, Gannon was a “system Qb.”
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Sorry I was misinformed he is playing Nick Watney right now
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
And then you turn around and try and hit a 7 iron 240 yds????
Unbelievable!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Question on Garrard…will he be healthy enough? He had back surgery right?
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
J Hill
Where are you watching this?
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Noodle armed Gannon trying to deep all day was ridiculous.
Pump fake right throw back left. Yeah we get it Gannon. Try something different!
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Wait, was it Dan Turk or was it Adam treu who took over for Robbins? But yes, that is what did it…but also…Gannon, even against Tennessee the first game of 2003, played scared as heck!
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Golf Channel.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
You cats ripping Bush in here are hilarious! Lets just put Taiwan Jones out there every down so he can get blown up on the blocks then…maybe he can at least give Bush a breather…oh yea, he didn’t even want to step on the field, yet he’s seen laughing as the season goes down the drain on the sideline….
and for those saying McFadden will avoid wear and tear, are we watching the same team? McFadden has had Bush with him since jump street but bruh messes up his foot last year on a phantom tackle…can’t ya’ll see the dude is done? I love him as much as the next Raider fan, but if we get another good year out of him; it might be his last…
Bush is a back whose only had over 250 carries once in his career (last year), and only regressed late in the year ’cause all our weapons were too hurt or scared to lace ‘em up and it’s all we had. Wouldn’t it be easy to stop a 250 lb guy if you knew he was gonna get the ball and the right side of the line was as garbage as ours was/is? Ya’ll be killin’ it in here…..
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Last year i would have said no way to vince young. Talented kid, but doesnt have his head on straight, besides we had Jc in full control.
Things have changed, and I think he could be a great pick up. he is a guy that can win and his mobility and underneath passing skill would fit well with knapps offense.
He also could supplant palmer when palmer flops.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
My bad, it was Adam True. Not Dan Turk.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
VY could supplant palmer when palmer flops
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LOL @ MISTIC!
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
“He also could supplant palmer when palmer flops.”
Palmer is not going to flop next year with a full off season and camp to work with his WR’s he will excel next year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
V.Young?Gerrard?Please yes.
VY could supplant palmer when palmer flops
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So predictable.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Hey Gannon, is that Tony Siragusa behind you?
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RRS,
What qualifies as spicy for a conservative like you in that part of America…j/k man.
Kudos to you.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic,
Seattle dumps Josh Portis. Charlie Whitehurst is a FA
They sign Jason Campbell, Vince Young & David Garrard to compete with Tarvaris Jackson.
who wins that battle ???
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
lefty12 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
V.Young?Gerrard?Please yes.
VY could supplant palmer when palmer flops
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So predictable.
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we need qbs’ we only have 2 and one has 0 qb experience in the nfl.
Garrard and vy are both former probowl playoff qbs
this is a problem?
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
We already have Pryor which who I think will be better than both vy and gaurrad. Finding a 3 rd qb shouldn’t be so stressful as some of tall make it. Conerns should be cb we don’t even have a fuggin starter cb and you guys talking about 3 rd string rb and qb replacements. Lol
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
“Seattle dumps Josh Portis. Charlie Whitehurst is a FA
They sign Jason Campbell, Vince Young & David Garrard to compete with Tarvaris Jackson.
who wins that battle ???”
Tavaris Jackson because he is younger and had a very good second half of the season last year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Bush is a back whose only had over 250 carries once in his career (last year), and only regressed late in the year ’cause all our weapons were too hurt or scared to lace ‘em up and it’s all we had.
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What a crock! Bush had two games where CP put up close to 400 yards of passing late (Det and SD) and he came up with games of 77 and 66 yards rushing with 18 and 19 carries. ANY RB in the NFL can do that.
The reason he struggled after the first two games is because defenses figured out he was useless on the outside so they just stuck 8 in the box on all running plays.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
169.lefty12 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Callahan gets all the blame while the QB who was on the field and could have changed the plays at the LOS gets none?Very interesting.
^^^^^^
Umm…Gruden knew Gannons audible signals and checkdown options and hot reads as well.
That is where Callahan and Trestman screwed up. They need to change the game plan and they needed to tweak Gannons audible signals as well.
They didn’t bother changing a damn thing for the Super Bowl when facing their former head coach in Gruden who got the team to where they were at and it cost the Raiders a Super Bowl title.
Haven’t you guys watched that NFL films clip of Lynch and his secondary coach talking about what to look for with Gannon and his signals and don’t bite on his pump fakes?
Gruden and the Bucs was 5 steps ahead of Callahan and the Raiders and it showed.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic,
Seattle dumps Josh Portis. Charlie Whitehurst is a FA
They sign Jason Campbell, Vince Young & David Garrard to compete with Tarvaris Jackson.
who wins that battle ???
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sorry bra, im not into fantasy make believe or dungeons and dragons
I like to look at things that ACTUALLY HAPPEN HERE ON EARTH
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
“first two games”
(* as a starter)
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
#150 – Not the case here, my friend. In fact, believe it or not, things seems to get better each year. First year was one heck of an adjustment but has steadily improved. No BJs? Too bad for whoever reported that to you. Guess it depends on who you marry.
Also, it helps to have a big banana. LOL
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RRS,
What qualifies as spicy for a conservative like you in that part of America
***
@AIG
we hold hands in the car
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
169.lefty12 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Callahan gets all the blame while the QB who was on the field and could have changed the plays at the LOS gets none?Very interesting.
^^^^^^
Umm…Gruden knew Gannons audible signals and checkdown options and hot reads as well.
That is where Callahan and Trestman screwed up. They need to change the game plan and they needed to tweak Gannons audible signals as well.
They didn’t bother changing a damn thing for the Super Bowl when facing their former head coach in Gruden who got the team to where they were at and it cost the Raiders a Super Bowl title.
Haven’t you guys watched that NFL films clip of Lynch and his secondary coach talking about what to look for with Gannon and his signals and don’t bite on his pump fakes?
Gruden and the Bucs was 5 steps ahead of Callahan and the Raiders and it showed.
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By mid season every opponent knew gannons audible signals, check downs and so on. Tampa wasnt the only team that had that info.
Teams in the nfl have people on staff whos only job is to review cut film break down signals, audibles, plays and play design, its called scouting.
That excuse does not absolve gannon of the single worst sb performance in the history of football
Gannon flopped
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
CP tree trunk is going down this season. Bring in VY if the price is right.
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
CP putting up those numbers doesn’t necessarily mean Bush should be having monster days. You can attribute that to poor balancing, and we all know we had a few more games than we would’ve liked where Carson was chucking that thing far too often. Also, 77 on 18 carries means he should’ve touched the ball more. Give dude the rock 7 more times and he’s giving you a bill. Any RB in the NFL is not gonna give you 100 yards per 25 carries. If that was the case, there would be 1000 yard rushers galore and folks would run the rock more.
And the reason he struggled again, is due to a lot of factors. No other real back to give him a breather combined with the fact he was keyed on most of our games with Moore and Ford taking turns being hurt; along with Khalif Barnes and Coop being possibly the worst right side of the line combo out there weighs a lot heavier than you’re giving credit.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Gruden and the Bucs was 5 steps ahead of Callahan and the Raiders and it showed.
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Agreed fully. Callahan should have done everything opposite of what they did in the RS, and a 4th ring could have been secured.
Ironically, if Gruden had done the same vs Balt two years earlier… a ring could have been ours also. He tried running vs the best run defense in the history of the NFL.
We coulda beat the Giants in the SB that year!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
We already have Pryor which who I think will be better than both vy and gaurrad. Finding a 3 rd qb shouldn’t be so stressful as some of tall make it. Conerns should be cb we don’t even have a fuggin starter cb and you guys talking about 3 rd string rb and qb replacements. Lol
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pryor should not be the primary back up, HE HAS NO NFL GAME EXPERIENCE!!
former starters make the best back ups, and that is what we need. A guy that has been there and done that is what we need
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
And me mentioning Bush has had only 1 season with over 250 carries is simply a way to highlight dude has a lot of tread on his tires. We should’nt offer him the house with the 2 car garage, but the homie at least deserves a decent contract offer for being one of the few true soldiers on the squad.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
195.aig-raiders Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RRS,
What qualifies as spicy for a conservative like you in that part of America…j/k man.
Kudos to you.
++++++++++++++++
An@l beads, dirty sanchezes and golden showers?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
im not into fantasy make believe or dungeons and dragons
I like to look at things that ACTUALLY HAPPEN HERE ON EARTH
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Mistic,
like Palmer being benched for Young?
yowsa. I don’t want to live in your world, homie!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
lfmao at RRS. Too funny man. Good for you. At least you’re not bickering at each other.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
. Also, 77 on 18 carries means he should’ve touched the ball more. Give dude the rock 7 more times and he’s giving you a bill.
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We were obviously watching two different games then. Bush was never a Barry Sanders type where if he keeps getting touches he will break one. He just lumbers for 3 yards. Even when he had the ball in space he seemed to just run straight into the biggest defender. Reminded me a LOT of Lamont Jordan. I suspect his career will end much like Jordan’s. Unless he loses 20 pounds and reshapes his entire style, that is…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
First name that popped into my head when JC went down was David Garrard.
Too bad the guy was injured.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Let twinkle toes test the market. He was nothing special as the year wore down.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
What nfl team suddenly changes the entire playbook days before the biggest game of their lives?!?!?!
Nobody. you dont have time to change your calls and rework your entire system simply because you fear the other team has intel, that would be foolish and impossible.
Even if you could somehow change up how could your team suddenly execute a brand new system with such little time and expect it to function any where near as well as what they have practiced for the last 2 years leading up to that game?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
An@l beads, dirty sanchezes and golden showers?
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who ???
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
im not into fantasy make believe or dungeons and dragons
I like to look at things that ACTUALLY HAPPEN HERE ON EARTH
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Mistic,
like Palmer being benched for Young?
yowsa. I don’t want to live in your world, homie!
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RR,
I didnt say bench palmer for young. palmer should start the season, we do need a capable back up in the event that he flounders or is injured. he has been in both situations in his career by the way.
For the record though i think vy’s particular skill set, mobilty and under neath passing is a better fit for knapps offense.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
O,
I guess some Raider fans never heard of Gary Kubiak & Rick Dennison ???
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You should have seen some of their posts trying to give credit to Knapp for the success of Texans’ offense.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Not only did DMAC’s injury hurt our season, it also hurt Bush’s market value. Teams got to see what he was made of, and in a contract year…Now imagine him with money in hand and the unquestioned starter. Pass.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Gdog Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
. Also, 77 on 18 carries means he should’ve touched the ball more. Give dude the rock 7 more times and he’s giving you a bill.
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We were obviously watching two different games then. Bush was never a Barry Sanders type where if he keeps getting touches he will break one. He just lumbers for 3 yards. Even when he had the ball in space he seemed to just run straight into the biggest defender. Reminded me a LOT of Lamont Jordan. I suspect his career will end much like Jordan’s. Unless he loses 20 pounds and reshapes his entire style, that is…
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It’s not about breaking the big one all the time yet he has broken a few big ones. It’s about controlling the rock and keeping the chains moving, and provided he can’t be a superstar back, he’s the next best thing. And with the weapons we have, we just need dependability at that RB spot, and dude can give it to us. Curtis Martin didn’t always break the big one and was a simple 25 times a game, 4 yards per carry cat, but his durability and dependability gave him 10+ years, and he made it to the Hall of Fame off that simple methodic consistency. Again, I’m not saying you offer Bush the whole house, but dude deserves the respect of a solid offer.
Some of ya’ll in here act like it’s a video game and just wanna see Taiwan Jones with the 99 speed, neglecting to realize his durability and dependability rating might be a 15. It’s like the folks who kept crying for touches for Boss and wondering why Meyers is out there all the time at TE. ‘Cause Meyers is dependable! He doesn’t have a million and one concussions like Boss has had and only plays a handful of snaps before motioning to take him out; and he isn’t flashy, but gets the job done.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
You should have seen some of their posts trying to give credit to Knapp for the success of Texans’ offense
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O,
not surprised. I like the Knapp hire, but not enough to make stuff up in order to try and justify it
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
We should’nt offer him the house with the 2 car garage, but the homie at least deserves a decent contract offer for being one of the few true soldiers on the squad.
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Hey, if he wants to accept _BACKUP_ RB money, we should by all means keep him. Maybe with a new training staff he can lose 20 pounds?
The guy simply doesn’t deserve starting RB money, nor is he a guy to build a franchise around (in case anyone thinks we should trade McF and keep Bush.)
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Let twinkle toes test the market. He was nothing special as the year wore down.
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Again, for the millionth and last time today from me ’cause I’m sick of reiterating it. Who is not gonna wear down being the only option behind a shaky o-line with all the other star playmakers taking turns being hurt all the time. I’m not saying Bush is the be-all-end-all guy who can carry a team by himself, but if we’re up and running the way we’re supposed to be with our weapons, there aren’t a lot of backs out there I’d trust more than the big fella.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Gdog Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Bush is a back whose only had over 250 carries once in his career (last year), and only regressed late in the year ’cause all our weapons were too hurt or scared to lace ‘em up and it’s all we had.
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What a crock! Bush had two games where CP put up close to 400 yards of passing late (Det and SD) and he came up with games of 77 and 66 yards rushing with 18 and 19 carries. ANY RB in the NFL can do that.
The reason he struggled after the first two games is because defenses figured out he was useless on the outside so they just stuck 8 in the box on all running plays.
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So true. Bush is a BU-RB at best. He’ll NEVER be a successful NFL starter. He doesn’t have the passion & desire necessary for a top level RB.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Some of ya’ll in here act like it’s a video game and just wanna see Taiwan Jones with the 99 speed, neglecting to realize his durability and dependability rating might be a 15.
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No, I am saying a RB much like Bush could prolly be claimed in the 6th round… if all we need is a durable big guy to spell McFadden (who SHOULDN’t carry the ball more than 10-15 times a game until the playoffs.)
I think that is exactly what will happen with McK (GB never spent much money at RB) so why are we arguing about a moot point?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
“Some of ya’ll in here act like it’s a video game and just wanna see Taiwan Jones with the 99 speed, neglecting to realize his durability and dependability rating might be a 15″
No I think its more a logical business decision to not pay a 2nd string RB 8 million a year when you are already 11 million over the cap and in desperate need of adding 10-20 new players to the roster. Not to mention that we already have a lot of money wrapped up at the RB position.
Fan support and loving a certain player is one thing but at the end of the day they have to pay 53 players on the team and cannot afford to pay a backup starter money.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
there aren’t a lot of backs out there I’d trust more than the big fella.
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Bleeder,
Marcel Reece was running with more conviction than Bush toward the end of the season!
risky replacement, but the zbs is known for being very RB friendly.
by the way- our OL has been Top 10 Rushing since 2007
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
“I think that is exactly what will happen with McK (GB never spent much money at RB) so why are we arguing about a moot point?”
This guy gets it!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
“Bleeder,
Marcel Reece was running with more conviction than Bush toward the end of the season!
risky replacement, but the zbs is known for being very RB friendly.
by the way- our OL has been Top 10 Rushing since 2007″
DING DING DING correct answer!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Gdog Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Some of ya’ll in here act like it’s a video game and just wanna see Taiwan Jones with the 99 speed, neglecting to realize his durability and dependability rating might be a 15.
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No, I am saying a RB much like Bush could prolly be claimed in the 6th round… if all we need is a durable big guy to spell McFadden (who SHOULDN’t carry the ball more than 10-15 times a game until the playoffs.)
I think that is exactly what will happen with McK (GB never spent much money at RB) so why are we arguing about a moot point?
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As much as we all love McFadden, you guys still trust dude to be our franchise savior? Am I the only person that notices a disturbing trend; turf toe injury while trying to outrun a Chief defender he has beat by 10+ yards…. lisfranc injury on a phantom tackle 2 plays into the game…..Dude might be done…we need dependability……I’m simply saying Bush has shown he can be that guy…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
here’s a good place to start:
what are Bush’s contract demands?
does he want starter RB money or is he cool being DMAC’s backup and being paid accordingly?
What is an average of the Top 5 backup RB’s salary?
That is how much he’s worth imo.
nothing more – nothing less
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
You guys need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.
In June we will have 80 guys out there competing for a job 53 of them will make it and we have to find a way to pay all 53 of them and right now we are over the cap with many holes to fill.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
“Bleeder,
Marcel Reece was running with more conviction than Bush toward the end of the season!
risky replacement, but the zbs is known for being very RB friendly.
by the way- our OL has been Top 10 Rushing since 2007″
DING DING DING correct answer!
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Marcel Reece had like 3 carries a game…My grandma would run with more conviction and crispness too off of 3 carries….
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
laters Nation!!! just about 2:30…time to get the heck outta dodge!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
some people are under valuing bush. bush is dependable has good feet and runs with power. he has starting experience and usually delivers a solid game when called upon. he has also worn down defenses and has posted some big numbers at times. he catches the ball well (should be used more for this)and has excellent speed for his size.
The question is really do the raiders feel that dmac can make it through more than his customary 5-6 healthy games? Bush playing behind mcfragile makes him a valuable asset, because of dmacs issue.
Anybody that doesnt think he will get a big offer from a team that needs a starting rb is fooling themselves.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
DMAC seemed to do pretty well behind that shaky O-line. And as for being the only option, it’s not like the guy played the entire season as the starter.
Comes down to this…nobody’s saying he doesn’t make a decent backup, but the guy wants to be a starter and wants starter money. It’s not happening here. Reggie’s too smart for that. Try another team. You want to stay as the backup, then let’s talk.
And I don’t blame Bush for that, either. You only get so many chances at a big pay day. He might be able to sucker some team ala Lamont Jordan with us.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
bush leaving isnt because he isnt good enough to merit a big pay raise, it will be because he has out played his contract, increased his value and will be out of OUR price range
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
“As much as we all love McFadden, you guys still trust dude to be our franchise savior?”
McFadden is a luxury we cannot afford but he is already signed and is under contract.
What I mean is that having so many holes to fill and we are paying this guy to be a rock star half of the season.
Which makes it even more logical to get a 6th round draft choice in there at 500K a year to back up McFadden.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Oh dont forget that bush is very good in the zone scheme, he is the classic one cut down hill back. Dmac…not so much
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Which is it? “can’t handle a full season work load” or “very durable”?
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Both, they aren’t the same thing, Bush is very durable – he doesn’t get hurt, but can’t handle a full season work load because his production dropped to pretty dismal levels (1.8 ypc against the fish). He had 3.8ypc for the year, and it was only that good because of his huge game against SD.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
some people are under valuing bush. bush is dependable has good feet and runs with power. he has starting experience and usually delivers a solid game when called upon. he has also worn down defenses and has posted some big numbers at times. he catches the ball well (should be used more for this)and has excellent speed for his size.
The question is really do the raiders feel that dmac can make it through more than his customary 5-6 healthy games? Bush playing behind mcfragile makes him a valuable asset, because of dmacs issue.
Anybody that doesnt think he will get a big offer from a team that needs a starting rb is fooling themselves.
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At least someone is making sense in here…….Bush is a starter and deserves to be compensated as much…I can’t knock if we can’t afford that and we lose dude, but those failing to acknowledge that he has gotten his play to that level are simply knocking the man…..
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Oh dont forget that bush is very good in the zone scheme, he is the classic one cut down hill back. Dmac…not so much
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He is? Because I see a big bruising running back that THINKS he is built like Taiwan Jones and trys dancing around.
Listen, I don’t think ANYONE here wants to lose Bush, but the smarter amongst us know he isn’t worth more than 3 million a year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
“bush leaving isnt because he isnt good enough to merit a big pay raise, it will be because he has out played his contract, increased his value and will be out of OUR price range”
This is an accurate statement!
Can’t blame the guy for wanting to go somewhere and be the “GUY” it can’t happen here because we already have our “GUY” under contract.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Bush is as much a ’starting running back’ as Lamont Jordan was.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
“As much as we all love McFadden, you guys still trust dude to be our franchise savior?”
McFadden is a luxury we cannot afford but he is already signed and is under contract.
What I mean is that having so many holes to fill and we are paying this guy to be a rock star half of the season.
Which makes it even more logical to get a 6th round draft choice in there at 500K a year to back up McFadden.
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Honestly, I’m a huge McFadden fan..HUGE…but I’m in the camp of hoping we trade him for a couple high picks…we’re not about to win the SuperBowl this year, so let the rebuilding begin…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
…I see a big bruising running back that THINKS he is built like Taiwan Jones and trys dancing around.
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Exactly.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I’m a little concerned about Gannon’s statements. Is it normal tweak as any good OC would do to help hus starting QB, or is the kind of tweak you need to do when a QB doesn’t fit your scheme?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Dude that allegedly killed his wife while scubdiving won his case today.
Ryan Braun won his drug test appeal.
Man, this is the day to get away with something!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Interesting fact of the day, Scott Piolo said on a KC radio station today that he doesn’t believe Routt has a penalty problem, and most of his penalties wouldn’t have been flagged if didn’t wear a Raider uniform.
From the mouth of the enemy…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Marcel Reece had like 3 carries a game…My grandma would run with more conviction and crispness too off of 3 carries….
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Bleeder,
point is, Reece made the most of his opportunities.
Bush didn’t.
If Bush’s last 6 starts were anything like his first 3, the Raiders would have made the playoffs
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Like Bcz24 said I don’t think any true Raider fan would want to lose Bush or devalue him or what he has done for us.
We just simply cannot afford him with so many holes to fill.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Worry not raider fans big mack is not going to over pay for any player not named palmer, and the palmer deal isnt big macks fault.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
…I see a big bruising running back that THINKS he is built like Taiwan Jones and trys dancing around.
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Exactly.
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He’s simply a product of his upbringing. Dude was a QB his whole life until college and was taught to be light on his feet. I’m a Louisvillian myself but hate that we let Brohm take the QB reigns instead of Bush. Would’ve been something to see if he could’ve developed into a star QB like it seemed he was gonna be.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I adamantly defended Bush when the Raiders tried to tank his career by forcing him to play FB, so I am happy he now has the opportunity to cash in with another team.
But Reggie will be smart enough to see that Bush should not receive a big contract.
We can replace Bush. Hopefully with a guy his size, but who can get the tough short yards we need and is better in the Red Zone than Bush.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Marcel Reece had like 3 carries a game…My grandma would run with more conviction and crispness too off of 3 carries….
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Bleeder,
point is, Reece made the most of his opportunities.
Bush didn’t.
If Bush’s last 6 starts were anything like his first 3, the Raiders would have made the playoffs
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BS…Bush’s first 3 starts had compliments around him on the O. Receiver injuries took away half the playbook later in the year
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
T Ganaway woukd be a great fit for us IMO.
O Mock draft 1.0:
5- RB T Ganaway
6- FS J Jackson
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Interesting fact of the day, Scott Piolo said on a KC radio station today that he doesn’t believe Routt has a penalty problem, and most of his penalties wouldn’t have been flagged if didn’t wear a Raider uniform.
From the mouth of the enemy…
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Always been a big fan of Routt and hope he does well there until they see us. Would’ve much rather we paid Huff ignorantly last year and were forced to let him go now rather than Routt.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Palmers deal isn’t set in stone Mistic. He was due almost 8 million last year when we acquired him, but he played for 2.5 million. I also don’t think that 12 million is out of whack for a starting qb, not in the day and age of qbs making 20 million.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
“Dude that allegedly killed his wife while scubdiving won his case today.”
That was because the prosecution did not have enough evidence to even bring this case to trail and failed miserably. The problem here is that so many times justice is weighed in their favor that they easily get a murder conviction on circumstantial evidence. Which is BS to me. If you are going to convict a person of murder you should have some evidence or at least a body. Some cases are tired and there is not even a body or finger prints or blood.
I myself and glad that the state is not successful at winning these kinds of cases because we would all be subject to their power if they do continue to win these kinds of cases.
I could go into the police station and say Dakota killed Elvis and if they wanted to they could find a way to convict you.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
“bush leaving isnt because he isnt good enough to merit a big pay raise, it will be because he has out played his contract, increased his value and will be out of OUR price range”
This is an accurate statement!
Can’t blame the guy for wanting to go somewhere and be the “GUY” it can’t happen here because we already have our “GUY” under contract.
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seriously
besides peterson, johnson, foster, maybe forte ray rice there arent lots of rbs worth huge money
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Dude that allegedly killed his wife while scubdiving won his case today.
Ryan Braun won his drug test appeal.
Man, this is the day to get away with something!
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Don’t give me any ideas. Neighbor is getting on my nerves.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Wonder if Pioli thinks they wouldn’t have ruled been TD’s against Routt if he wasn’t a Raider also?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I was only 15 months old when Elvis died! If I did it, I certainly don’t remember doing it….
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Bush is as much a ’starting running back’ as Lamont Jordan was.
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But wasn’t Jordon a lazy Pud? Came into camp fat and out of shape?
Sapp on Jordan: “After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing. But LaMont is like the worst offseason running back I’ve ever been around; he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going.”
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
What nfl team suddenly changes the entire playbook days before the biggest game of their lives?!?!?!
Nobody. you dont have time to change your calls and rework your entire system simply because you fear the other team has intel, that would be foolish and impossible.
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I guarantee you that if Bellichick was in this exact same situation, and had two weeks to prepare, he would devise a scheme to give the defense some very different looks to at least make the game close and competitive, instead of the beat down we experienced.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
267.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Bush is as much a ’starting running back’ as Lamont Jordan was.
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But wasn’t Jordon a lazy Pud? Came into camp fat and out of shape?
Sapp on Jordan: “After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing. But LaMont is like the worst offseason running back I’ve ever been around; he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going.”
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Does Bush keep himself in top condition? I don’t think he is McClain lazy, but he is not exactly Mr. Cut either.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Palmers deal isn’t set in stone Mistic. He was due almost 8 million last year when we acquired him, but he played for 2.5 million. I also don’t think that 12 million is out of whack for a starting qb, not in the day and age of qbs making 20 million.
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I also count the draft picks as part of the “over payment” for palmer.
i do think 12 mil is way to much for a qb with so many picks and losses in such a short time span. most alarming are his last 19 starts 6-13 record with 30 picks.
I would say 12 mil is way too much
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Sapp on Jordan: “After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing. But LaMont is like the worst offseason running back I’ve ever been around; he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going.”
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I’ll take that with a grain of salt since Sapp never found a pair of football pants that fit…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
“I was only 15 months old when Elvis died! If I did it, I certainly don’t remember doing it….”
AH HA so it is possible…..
LMAO
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Dakota Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
267.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Bush is as much a ’starting running back’ as Lamont Jordan was.
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But wasn’t Jordon a lazy Pud? Came into camp fat and out of shape?
Sapp on Jordan: “After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing. But LaMont is like the worst offseason running back I’ve ever been around; he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going.”
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Does Bush keep himself in top condition? I don’t think he is McClain lazy, but he is not exactly Mr. Cut either.
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Word was Bush came into camp looking the best last year….obviously being it was a contract year played a huge part in that, but he should never be compared to Lamont Jordan…ya’ll are reaching now!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Wonder if Pioli thinks they wouldn’t have ruled been TD’s against Routt if he wasn’t a Raider also?
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nothing but spin trying to acclimate the fans and condition them for the idea of losing carr and taking routt as areplacement
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
“Sapp on Jordan: “After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing. But LaMont is like the worst offseason running back I’ve ever been around; he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going.””
I stopped watching NFLN because of Sapp I cant stand him!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
i do think 12 mil is way to much for a qb with so many picks and losses in such a short time span. most alarming are his last 19 starts 6-13 record with 30 picks.
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This is a pointless conversation. I know you don’t like Palmer. I know you don’t want him to succeed. Nothing you will say will ever make me believe he is as bad as you think he is. Don’t waste your time.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Oh, the “contract year I am finally in shape” guy! yeah, give him a big contract!
3-4 years, 11-13 Million or let him walk.
I like Bush as the backup, but anything more than that might be a reach.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Sapp on Jordan: “After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing. But LaMont is like the worst offseason running back I’ve ever been around; he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going.”
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I’ll take that with a grain of salt since Sapp never found a pair of football pants that fit…
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Only real point is that Jordon did have the skills to be a top back, just not the heart…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Bush’s first 3 starts had compliments around him on the O. Receiver injuries took away half the playbook later in the year
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Bleeder,
DHB, Moore, Murphy & Boss all played in WK17. Palmer threw for 400+ yards and 2 TD’s
meanwhile – Bush ran for 3.5 ypc and no scores
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
“nothing but spin trying to acclimate the fans and condition them for the idea of losing carr and taking routt as a replacement”
Another good one by Mysitc1!
Spin yes indeed because Carr is light years ahead of Routt as a DB and KC is too cheap to pay them both so Carr is gone.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
We need to sign Bush at any cost…cause I bought his Jersey…LOL
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
obviously being it was a contract year played a huge part in that, but he should never be compared to Lamont Jordan…ya’ll are reaching now!
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I guess we will find out this year. Why is it a reach to compare them? They both played second fiddle to a better running back, but performed well enough when given the opportunity to at least warrant consideration as a full time starter. Jordan got his chance, and didn’t perform, albeit on some pretty piss poor teams. The jury is still out on Bush until he gets his shot. Best of luck to him (unless he pulls a d1ck move like Routt and stays in the division)
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
The 2013 Acura NSX, which hit detroit like an automotive atom bomb to steal the show, is going to production, Honda says. What’s more, it will be built in Ohio – the all-wheel drive supercar will be Made in America, starting this year. Plus a new video explains a few more details on this awesome concept’s drive train.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Made in Ohio?
I should buy one, if the price is right.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
What nfl team suddenly changes the entire playbook days before the biggest game of their lives?!?!?!
Nobody. you dont have time to change your calls and rework your entire system simply because you fear the other team has intel, that would be foolish and impossible.
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I guarantee you that if Bellichick was in this exact same situation, and had two weeks to prepare, he would devise a scheme to give the defense some very different looks to at least make the game close and competitive, instead of the beat down we experienced.
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useless speculation
again i have never heard of a coach completely changing his entire system in fear of the other teams scouting.
The offense remained the same for at least a couple of seasons, you cant change it in such a short time. too difficult to teach and execute in game. this is why camp and preseason are so long, and new coaching staffs get extra camps to install their system.
belicheat didnt change when they played the giants, and they had two years!!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
KC is 60 million under the cap and has no plans of spending that money its going into the owners bank account!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Made in Ohio?
I should buy one, if the price is right
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$75-90k
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Bleeder,
DHB, Moore, Schilens & Boss all played in WK16. Palmer threw for 230+ yards and 1 TD
meanwhile – Bush ran for 3 ypc and no scores
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Bush is as much a ’starting running back’ as Lamont Jordan was.
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Do you remember Jordan’s second year when he would whiff in past protection, but would throw up his arm that he was open as the Statue Collins got slammed?
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Bush’s first 3 starts had compliments around him on the O. Receiver injuries took away half the playbook later in the year
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Bleeder,
DHB, Moore, Murphy & Boss all played in WK17. Palmer threw for 400+ yards and 2 TD’s
meanwhile – Bush ran for 3.5 ypc and no scores
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Bush practically scored for us that first drive getting us down the field! Problem there was our D didn’t show up, so we fell behind two scores early (I wanna say we were down 2 scores in the 2nd qtr) which basically takes a back like Bush out of that game. Or at least it took him out of most of the playcalling for first and 2nd down.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
If Bush is going to get a big payday its coming from a team like the Browns who were going to over pay Hillis until he pooped his pants last year.
Maybe a team like the Jets will bring him in to split caries with Shone Green. But not at 8 million a year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RR – Plus we passed the ball 43 f’n times that d@mn game! We both know Hue wasn’t gonna go out without his favorite QB in the world chuckin’ it as much as possible. Don’t get me started talking about that week 17 debacle….
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The offense remained the same for at least a couple of seasons, you cant change it in such a short time. too difficult to teach and execute in game. this is why camp and preseason are so long, and new coaching staffs get extra camps to install their system.
belicheat didnt change when they played the giants, and they had two years!!!
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The pats offense from the 07 super bowl to this years was almost completely different (thats 4 years not 2)
And there is a difference between scouting an offense, and literally knowing every play at the line of scrimmage. Gruden and other Bucs have said in interviews that they knew every play we were going to run. You don’t think the defense knowing exactly what you are going to do played a part in the outcome? Our offense was totally a timing offense, their defense didn’t even cover the receivers they just ran the routes for them and made the plays.
I bet Jason Campbell would have won that game though…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
i do think 12 mil is way to much for a qb with so many picks and losses in such a short time span. most alarming are his last 19 starts 6-13 record with 30 picks.
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This is a pointless conversation. I know you don’t like Palmer. I know you don’t want him to succeed. Nothing you will say will ever make me believe he is as bad as you think he is. Don’t waste your time.
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I do want palmer to succeed, if he doesnt we are toast next year.
If you look at the numbers i posted and think that is worth 12 mil, it is your right. I have no stake in truying to convince you.
I want better qb play, and those numbers dont look like 12 mil worth to me, but what ever floats your boat bra
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
LaMont Jordan had one good season (2005)
With Norv Turner as play caller.
Kerry Collins as QB.
Zack Crockett as FB.
Moss, Porter, Gabriel & Whitted as WR’s.
Anderson & Williams as TE’s.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
@bcz24
Think that Derrick Ward might/could be a better Bush comparison? Thinking Tampoon Bay contract fiasco? LaMont Jordon is pretty good though…
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Do you remember Jordan’s second year when he would whiff in past protection, but would throw up his arm that he was open as the Statue Collins got slammed?
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Yeah, I remember Bush getting Palmer slammed a few times too whiffing on blitz pickups.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The offense remained the same for at least a couple of seasons, you cant change it in such a short time. too difficult to teach and execute in game. this is why camp and preseason are so long, and new coaching staffs get extra camps to install their system.
belicheat didnt change when they played the giants, and they had two years!!!
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The pats offense from the 07 super bowl to this years was almost completely different (thats 4 years not 2)
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thanks mr wizard,
the giants run the same offense bilicheat still couldnt stop it.
The giants run the same defense, bilicheat still couldnt beat it
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
285.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
KC is 60 million under the cap and has no plans of spending that money its going into the owners bank account!
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Wasn’t there something about a cap floor in the new CBA? I find some info saying it starts in 2013, but I can’t find a solid article about it.
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Do you remember Jordan’s second year when he would whiff in past protection, but would throw up his arm that he was open as the Statue Collins got slammed?
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Yeah, I remember Bush getting Palmer slammed a few times too whiffing on blitz pickups.
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Do you remember that more times than McFadden falling after getting barely touched as he turned the corner on most of his ZBS runs? Doubt you remember it that much!
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
the giants run the same offense bilicheat still couldnt stop it.
The giants run the same defense, bilicheat still couldnt beat it
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1. No they don’t. They are a much more explosive offense now
2. If Brady’s recievers don’t leave their hands on the sidelines in the 4th qtr you aren’t even trying to make that comparison.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Made in Ohio?
I should buy one, if the price is right
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$75-90k
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That’s more than the 1M, and I rather have that car. Well…. Both are great cars, but the 1M reminds me of my first love: OL school M3 (E30).
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Do you remember that more times than McFadden falling after getting barely touched as he turned the corner on most of his ZBS runs? Doubt you remember it that much!
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How does the blocking scheme influence McFadden’s ability to keep his footing?
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
“Wasn’t there something about a cap floor in the new CBA? I find some info saying it starts in 2013, but I can’t find a solid article about it.”
Yes there is and I am not sure what the rules will be or when they take place.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Let’s Go J Lin!!!!!!
Go Raiders!
Go Bucks!!
Go Aztecs!
Go Cavs!
Go Clippers!
Go Lin!!!!!!!!
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
guest123 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I’m sorry, I don’t see the comparison of Schwab to CP3.
What, they’re both white….and?
One’s nothing like the other, imo.
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Almost exact same size, similar mobility, but Palmer gets a little bit of a nod in both accuracy and arm strength.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
There is a cap floor, it is 90% of the total cap, the caveat is each team doesnt have to be at 90%, as long as the 32 teams collectively are. It was ammended last year to give teams time because of the teams that were so ridiculously far under, so it doesn’t take effect until 2013.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Do you remember that more times than McFadden falling after getting barely touched as he turned the corner on most of his ZBS runs? Doubt you remember it that much!
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How does the blocking scheme influence McFadden’s ability to keep his footing?
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Hahaha, just f’n wit ya bruh…..I’m sure it doesn’t correlate, but dude took a minute to get over his “footing” issue when we used to run Cable’s scheme and it seemed like every time we thought he was gonna break one and turn the corner to the outside he would get shoved and fall off the flimsiest arm tackles…he’s a lot better now at taking contact, but I had to get a shot in since this is obviously bash Bush day in here, and I can’t let my boy get got like that!
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Lakers going to send a reality check to okl. City tonight. ! Linn Gona be the little mouse in a snake pit with LeBron and wade as the hungry snakes, he will get locked down tonight.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
218.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
What nfl team suddenly changes the entire playbook days before the biggest game of their lives?!?!?!
Nobody. you dont have time to change your calls and rework your entire system simply because you fear the other team has intel, that would be foolish and impossible.
Even if you could somehow change up how could your team suddenly execute a brand new system with such little time and expect it to function any where near as well as what they have practiced for the last 2 years leading up to that game?
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Can’t believe I agreeing but remember Vince Lombardi’s philosophy. “We are running the Green Bay power sweep. Everyone knows it. Let them try to stop it!”
It wasn’t Gruden knowing the plays as much as the loss of Barrett. He called the line plays. We did not execute and got stomped on. Did not matter if they knew our playbook. Everyone watches film and knows the other teams tendencies.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Raiders going stealth for now……what? No underwear?
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Lakers going to send a reality check to okl. City tonight. ! Linn Gona be the little mouse in a snake pit with LeBron and wade as the hungry snakes, he will get locked down tonight.
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I’m actually a Knick fan, and probably the only one in here, so I can’t let you slide with that in here homie, and I’m sure you enjoyed that L ya’ll took against us last week! Don’t worry though, I won’t run it too much about the Knicks ’cause I can’t stand Antoni. I refuse to pronounce the “D” in his name until he coaches it; but I gotta admit, I am loving the new team chemistry with Lin on the floor.
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Workday is done, and I’m out…
Rack ‘em
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
the giants run the same offense bilicheat still couldnt stop it.
The giants run the same defense, bilicheat still couldnt beat it
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1. No they don’t. They are a much more explosive offense now
2. If Brady’s recievers don’t leave their hands on the sidelines in the 4th qtr you aren’t even trying to make that comparison.
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1.) they run the same scheme, nothing has changed other than the personnel.
2.) who care about ifs, score board reads giants 2 patsies 0.
bilicheat was unable to stop the giants even though he was fully aware of what they were going to do on both sides of the ball, and had several years of film to study.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
268. Agree about your comment regarding Bellicheck, however, I think for ‘02 there was only a week between AFC Championship game and SB. Still, if it looks like there’s a possibility you may end up against your old HC, don’t you have at least some play calling variation?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!? 80 DEGREE WEATHER, PATIO DRINKING AND GORGEOUS SCANTILY CLAD WOMEN IN EVERY
DELICIOUS FLAVOR IMAGINABLE!!!!!! OAKLAND WHATS NOT TO LOVE????
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
I thought the Patriots D was outstanding vs the Giants, overall.
Not sure what you expect Belichick to do. Shut every opponent out? They took the Giants best players out of the game, made other guys beat them. That day, those other guys stepped up.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RaiderRockstar Says: February 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Did talk to Rich Gannon informally for a few minutes on a break from his Sirius radio show. He’s excited about the potential change in culture. I asked him if he thought Carson Palmer would be a fit for Greg Knapp’s offense and Gannon said he thought it would be fine with a few tweaks.
Gannon thinks Palmer’s skill set is roughly similar to that of Matt Schwab, who flourished under Knapp with the Houston Texans.
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I agree – however
what does Rich Gannon know about Greg Knapp or Matt Schaub?
His opinion is as good as ours
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And thats the problem right there..! You compare your knowledge to a guy that played in the NFL 10 plus years and is paid for his analysis. You just played high school football and John maddened video games!
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
alex7 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
I thought the Patriots D was outstanding vs the Giants, overall.
Not sure what you expect Belichick to do. Shut every opponent out? They took the Giants best players out of the game, made other guys beat them. That day, those other guys stepped up.
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proves my theory, the players will determine the outcome of the game not the coaches or scouting departmnents.
I will never blame losing the superbowl on chucky knowing our plays.
I blame the players, in particular robbins, and gannon with his hideous, deer in headlights 5 pick choke-a-thon.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Not sure how the Patriots 2011-31st ranked defense compares to Bucs 2002-1st ranked defense?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Not sure how the Patriots 2011-31st ranked defense compares to Bucs 2002-1st ranked defense?
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It doesnt. Again proving my point, there is no excuse for that ridiculously lousy melt down by gannon
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
HairyBush Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Matt Schwab
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I BELIEVE IT’S Shaub Jerry lol
……
Jerry was channeling Al Davis there for a second.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Sharkcatcher, I don’t even play Madden (much)…
But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Not sure how the Patriots 2011-31st ranked defense compares to Bucs 2002-1st ranked defense?
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It doesnt. Again proving my point, there is no excuse for that ridiculously lousy melt down by gannon
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Kinda suprised by this, I thought you would have argued that Gannon benefitted from the scheme that he was in, once the scheme was exposed by the man who manufactured it, it was over.
So your argument is that Gannon was a very good QB, but had a very bad game, a melt down? Just asking.
My point on the 2002 Bucs D v. 2012 Pats D is that if you told Aso what pattern Calvin Johnson was running he could probably defended it (Bucs 2000 D), but if you told Lito Shepherd (Scrub CB) what pattern Calvin Johnson was running he probably would not be able to defend it (Pats 2012 D).
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
dear ReggieMc,
this is contract year for McFifi. his “business decisions” to shut it down each prior season by claiming injury will not hold form in 2012. He’ll take his pain-killing injections this season to remain on the field because of the smell of big bucks.
best thing to do is to make a worthwhile trade as he still has value and let him tease another franchise. (FYI, more games = more fumbles)
sincerely,
m
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
M, McFadden sucks as a RB when he takes pain killers or plays thru the pain. Rather him heathly or let someone else get the reps…
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
mistic,
you think our coaches last year would have put the Patriots D in the same place to succeed as Belichick did this Super Bowl?
Ehhh. We would have been in too many vanilla defenses getting shredded, blitzing at wrong times, not confusing anyone.
I feel it was the gameplan that allowed the Patriots average talent on D to keep a very good offense in check for most of the game.
Talent is pretty standard across the league. Coaches in Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and New England just take different players every year and continue assimilating them into a productive unit.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
lonetree
the guy was the leading rusher for the first third of the NFL season. Kinda awesome in the passing game as well.
and all you got is more games = more fumbles?
weak.
10 games of McFadden trumps 16 games of 99% of what you’d get in a trade.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Matt Schlub and “Ice” Ryan are Brad Johnson wannabes. Try to muddle through a career long enough for other players to win them a championship.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Dutch, good post.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
@alex7 (Sully)
Exactly right, the Raiders should schemed on shutting down Welker and the healthy TE. We see that Branch and Johnson had nothing to offer. Just another Failure by Bres.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Alex,
believing in the Easter Bunny doesn’t make a rabbit lay eggs.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Matt Schaub is one of only 7 or 8 QBs in the league that can consistently make the Steelers D look average.
That’s saying something.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
If the Easter Bunny lays 150 pound egg 10 out of every 16 nights, I’m a believer.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Not sure how the Patriots 2011-31st ranked defense compares to Bucs 2002-1st ranked defense?
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It doesnt. Again proving my point, there is no excuse for that ridiculously lousy melt down by gannon
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Kinda suprised by this, I thought you would have argued that Gannon benefitted from the scheme that he was in, once the scheme was exposed by the man who manufactured it, it was over.
So your argument is that Gannon was a very good QB, but had a very bad game, a melt down? Just asking.
My point on the 2002 Bucs D v. 2012 Pats D is that if you told Aso what pattern Calvin Johnson was running he could probably defended it (Bucs 2000 D), but if you told Lito Shepherd (Scrub CB) what pattern Calvin Johnson was running he probably would not be able to defend it (Pats 2012 D).
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Dutch you missed it bra.
1.) I stated that gannon and his terrible 5 pick choke-a-thon was the main reason for getting blown out in the super bowl, after reading his thoughts in this article.
2.) someone countered with gruden knowing the plays was the reason for gannons putrid showing on that day. I couldnt disagree more.
3.) People then followed with raider coaches failing to change audible signals plays formations and so on, and cited this as the catalyst for our destruction.
4.) I then countered with the fat that we only ran about 8-9 plays in the entire year, and only changed sets and formations. This means every team in the nfl know what were going to do, as they all have scouting departments dedicated to breaking down film, tracking tendencies and so on.
5.) I also submitted that there is no way for a team to change their entire system days before a game, nor would it be possible to expect the players to be able to execute at a high level a brand new offensive system of check downs and audibles and the like.
6.) some fool follwed with bilicheat could have done it
7.) i pointed out that bilicheat couldnt solve the giants even with several years of film and head to head experience.
No i blame the superbowl on gannon primarily as he puked all over himself and pizzed his pants on the games biggest stage.
Gannon over rated journey man qb reclamation project whos carriage turned into a pumpkin, and his glass slipper ended up firmly planted in his own back side.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
McFadden was pretty much the only reason we were in position to make the playoffs week 17.
That 5-3 1st place start actually happened. That complete thrashing of the Jets vaunted run D happened. That Buffalo game where he put up like 250 total yards happened.
I’ll take that over some 2nd round prayer.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
each year McTease lays an egg which amount to nothing for his team. don’t know if it weighs 150 lbs but it = a goose egg.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
This is kinda bad:
“I then countered with the fat that we only ran about 8-9 plays in the entire year, and only changed sets and formations.”
Seriously bad.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
alex7 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
mistic,
you think our coaches last year would have put the Patriots D in the same place to succeed as Belichick did this Super Bowl?
Ehhh. We would have been in too many vanilla defenses getting shredded, blitzing at wrong times, not confusing anyone.
I feel it was the gameplan that allowed the Patriots average talent on D to keep a very good offense in check for most of the game.
Talent is pretty standard across the league. Coaches in Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and New England just take different players every year and continue assimilating them into a productive unit.
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interesting theory even if it is speculation, but it has nothing to do with what i have posted.
i dont see any connection between what you have written and gannons monumental flop job.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
as a fact, McFumbled against the Buffies costing the Raiders a victory which cost them the division.
McFumble doesn’t and the Buffies wouldn’t have had the time to torch the D.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
keep serving up those McFadden eggs. That and Palmer are about the only thing worth watching on this team, and the only reason we win games.
But hey, anyone can do what McFadden does I’m sure. Anyone can lead the league in rushing 7 games into a season, while delivering WR-like hands, and punishing blocks.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
@Mistic
No i blame the superbowl on gannon primarily as he puked all over himself and pizzed his pants on the games biggest stage.
Gannon over rated journey man qb reclamation project whos carriage turned into a pumpkin, and his glass slipper ended up firmly planted in his own back side.
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I just do not think that these opinions are mutually exclusive, Gannon could be what you think he is and Gruden intimate knowledge of the offense and Bucs stud defense all contributed to the Raiders getting smoked in the SB. Raider on!
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Take McFadden out of Buffalo and we score our usual 13 east coast game points.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
This is kinda bad:
“I then countered with the fat that we only ran about 8-9 plays in the entire year, and only changed sets and formations.”
Seriously bad.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
alex7 Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
This is kinda bad:
“I then countered with the fat that we only ran about 8-9 plays in the entire year, and only changed sets and formations.”
Seriously bad.
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who cares bra, so your an english major no any football?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
10 games of McFadden trumps 16 games of 99% of what you’d get in a trade.
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Hell, bring him in mid-season like we did with Bo… depending on how we start the season.
The success rates of a low first rounder being an impact player is 50/50, IIRC. There’s been studies of this. Draft picks are a great luxury, but they don’t make a team. Look at the Patriots… tons of high draft picks every year and they still depend almost totally on a 6th? round QB for nearly all their wins. If Brady goes down, all those high draft picks leads them to 5 or 6 wins tops…
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
This aint Madden Video games. You can’t replace Bush/Mcfadden with the click of a mouse.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
This aint Madden Video games. You can’t replace Bush/Mcfadden with the click of a mouse.
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“Pure Rhetoric”
Although in a ZBS isn’t the running back not as important-(See Broncos and Texans)…(Only in that when Foster went down [Hammy], Ben Tate did very well)
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Exactly right, the Raiders should schemed on shutting down Welker and the healthy TE.
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Not sure we had the personel to pull that off.
I remember looking forward to Huff being man to man and pressing Welker all game. He was hurt and didn’t play.
CJ37 was also out.
Wasn’t Groves still starting at OLB for us too?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
This aint Madden Video games. You can’t replace Bush/Mcfadden with the click of a mouse.
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Not McFadden.
But most of the top teams rely on journeymen RB’s… no team pays tons of money for two RB’s.
This is now a QB’s league… the rules have made it so.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Exactly right, the Raiders should schemed on shutting down Welker and the healthy TE.
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Not sure we had the personel to pull that off.
I remember looking forward to Huff being man to man and pressing Welker all game. He was hurt and didn’t play.
CJ37 was also out.
Wasn’t Groves still starting at OLB for us too?
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I would have liked the Raiders to have keyed on Welker with Routt or bracketed him, not sure he would have pulled this off. Didn’t Branch shut down their TE? It just seemed they treat all the receivers the same.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Michael Bush = Alvin Harper.
To that end, let the Bucs sign Bush and relive the Harper years all over again.
Done.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The only thing relevant in the Bush conversation is his willingness to be a #2 RB.
There is NO question McFadden is #1 on the depth chart.
If YOU were Mike Bush would YOU come back to Oakland to be a backup????
Why is it so easy to accept that Campbell won’t come back to backup Palmer, but some seem to think Bush would?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
People here, said Nnamdi was replaceable, too. Look what happened to the Pass D.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
peace nation
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Only way we keep Bush is if we franchise him.
8 million for a backup player if we do that. 20% raise the following year?
Again, for a backup?
If we franchsie Bush, I’d say we HAVE to trade McFadden, or move him to WR. You don’t pay a RB 8 million and not give him 20-25 carries per game.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
J Hill Says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Only way we keep Bush is if we franchise him.
8 million for a backup player if we do that. 20% raise the following year?
Again, for a backup?
If we franchsie Bush, I’d say we HAVE to trade McFadden, or move him to WR. You don’t pay a RB 8 million and not give him 20-25 carries per game.
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I guess you’re right.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
The wheels on the bus go ’round and ’round, the wheels on the bus go ’round and round….
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
at least Bush contributed.
Get the check cashers from the otherside of the ball off the roster.
That is the beginning, middle and end
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Get the check cashers from the otherside of the ball off the roster.
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What do you think the hold up is?
Want to go out on a limb and identify the “check cashers”?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Put Wimbley, huff and Kelley on the road
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Jeremy Lin is killing his team tonight.
Looks like a deer in headlights.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 02-23-12: CORNERING THE MARKET
The new Reggie regime will likely look to Free Agency to fill its Cornerback needs this off season…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I like some of our options in FA especially since were moving away from as much man. Surprised at how little dpeth we have at corner
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I wouldn’t call those guy “check cashers”.
Couple of out of whack salaries and a non fit in the 3-4, so it wouldn’t surprise me if 1 or more of those cats aren’t on the roster come March 13th.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Jer still hasn’t fixed Schwab?? Sounds like a native Q-tip!
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I’d like to see Chekwa get a look at FS.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Chekwa and not Huff.
Huff better at FS
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
I like Huff and Branch as our starters.
I think Chekwa might be a better FS prospect than corner. I think DVD has a better shot at one of the starting corner slots. Chekwa should be able to get in front of Gio on the depth chart.
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Misnomers to be dispelled:
Running backs are not important in today’s NFL.
Running backs are a dime a dozen and easily found.
Certainly, the passing game is king. Gone are the days where an offense revolved around a dominant, bruising running game.
Never has the importance of having a premier QB and explosive passing attack been more pronounced.
The emphasis on the passing game has made it fashionable to underestimate the importance of having a balanced attack.
It’s still immensely important.
I’ve seen it said that ‘DMAC is a luxury the Raids can’t afford’.
I prefer to think that risking discarding the best all-purpose RB in the NFL is a luxury the Raids can not afford.
Having a healthy DMAC potentially elevates the Raid offense to elite status. He’s that good.
You simply can not give up on a talent like DMAC. He’s the best player the Raids have.
No, his durability issues can not be ignored. But neither can his excellence when healthy.
Rest assured, having a solid ground game and a top notch RB is important, even in today’s pass happy NFL.
Backs like DMAC are anything but a dime a dozen and aren’t easily found.
In fact, I’d go as far as saying that the return of a healthy DMAC is the single most important element necessary to ensure the Raids being an outstanding offensive unit.
Keep DMAC.
DUMP SLOWLANDO.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
Asked McKenzie if Raiders would have fastest player in 40-yard dash. He said not if he can’t play.
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The perfect answer!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Time to get a decent fullback who can block for DMAC and keep him healthy. we were 4-2 when he went down for the season. It would also provide another check down receiver on 3rd down when the D is blitzing. Think Tom Rathman, smart aggressive, great blocking in the backfield. RAIDERS!
February 26th, 2012 at 12:22 am
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