On Allen, McKenzie
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, February 24th, 2012 at 8:14 am in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen is scheduled to be at the podium at 1:15 (ET). In the meantime, I got a chance to ask Broncos executive John Elway about Allen and Green Bay general manager Ted Thompson about Reggie McKenzie.
Elway on Allen: “I’m happy for Dennis. I think he’s going to be a great young coach. He’s very smart, a guy that is a good leader, and I’m happy for him. I’m sad that he’s in Oakland that we have to play him twice a year in our division because that’s how much I think of Dennis Allen. He’s a guy that I think is going to have success in this league.”
Thompson on McKenzie: “I think they got a gem. Reggie and I are really good friends so I’m really biased in my answer. This is a really good man, and the people there in that building, that organization, are going to appreciate the fact that he is a really good guy. He is part of that group of people that we have always patterned what we do after the training that we received from Ron Wolf. And I think that combination, plus that Ron has a history with the Oakland Raiders, that’s how he’ll go about it. And he’ll do a good job.”
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February 24th, 2012 at 8:15 am
unang una
February 24th, 2012 at 8:16 am
DMac’s presence (or lack thereof) will have no impact on the Raiders’ overall record in 2012.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:17 am
136.YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:14 am
DMac’s presence or lack thereof will have no impact on the Raiders’ overall record in 2012.
For some reson, I’d have to agree
February 24th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Change is good.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:18 am
I love the fact that Elway is sad that Allen is in Oakland…
February 24th, 2012 at 8:23 am
….This is a really good man, and the people there in that building, that organization, are going to appreciate the fact that he is a really good guy…..
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kind words for an axe-man
February 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
DMAC will have no impact on the 2012 Raiders? Seriously? puff puff pass.
Glad for Reggie and Dennis. Although the jury is still out on both. Saying and doing the right things so far though.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am
for the short term, he’s hamstrung. The work he does this spring will have Raider fans up in arms and the pitchforks will be out. His job sucks right about now.
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G123,
Agreed. 90% of Raider Nation will be calling for his head when they evaluate the moves he makes this offseason and what our roster looks like “on paper” on the defensive side
But I expect that to change rather quickly when we start winning football games in 2012. I predict we will DOMINATE the afc west in the rookie years of McKenzie, Allen & Tarver!
February 24th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Change isn’t always good. But in this case change was needed.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:28 am
RRS, I love your enthusiasm for 2012. I really do. I couldn’t want anything more than eat my words. Pour me another up of kool-aid.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:28 am
2012 is a honeymoon year. His “axeman” year of correcting old wrongs and bursting festering sores. He’s going to make this team over into “his” guys. 2013 will see a lot of old misspent money off the books, and I don’t see him carrying forward bad contracts.
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G123,
when can we finally stop paying JaMarcus Russell, Javon Walker, Gibril Wilson, DeAngelo Hall, Kwame Harris, Justin Fargas & Larry Brown?
February 24th, 2012 at 8:30 am
For some strange reason I’m leaning toward trading DMC….probably cause it’s getting closer to the draft?
February 24th, 2012 at 8:30 am
I wonder what Jerry Mac said to John Elway?
“hey man, why the long face?”
February 24th, 2012 at 8:32 am
I think theres a better chance of letting BOTH Bush & Branch walk in free agency than trading away Darren McFadden!
thats right. both. print it
February 24th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Speaking of JaMarcus Russell, I’ve been watching the draft combine shows on NFLN & they had me excited back then, the same way I see RGIII on the NFL combine shows they are running now. RGIII looks like a franchise QB. But glad we don’t have that decision to make anymore.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:33 am
DMAC was the leading rusher last season before he got hurt. No impact? Lol. Also the JC CP debate always involves people saying palmer never had dmac or palmer will be so much better with dmac. Can’t have it both ways
February 24th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Value guys in the draft:
- CB Trumaine Johnson (law issues)
- CB Omar Bolden (Injuries)
- OLB Sean Spence (size)
- FS Janzen Jackson (Law issues)
- RB Terrance Ganaway (slow 40, catching issues)
- WR Brian Quick (slow 40, 6′3 225)
I think most (if not all) will be available in the 3rd day of the draft.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Who replaces DMAC? Each year he’s better and better. Giving up on a investment that keeps growing is not what the GM of any company does.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:34 am
G123,
look at where our draft picks went this year.
1st & 2nd = Palmer
3rd = Pryor
4th = Campbell
we better have some darn good QB play this season !!!
February 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
If there are any questions on DMAC’s foot, his trade value is nothing. He can’t be thought of having a lingering issue. You can forget about getting anything for him.
Maybe the Raiders should have a DMAC pro-day to prove he’s healthy again, to increase his trade value. Maybe DMAC would welcome it to see if it gets him a big money extension. One hand feeds the other?
February 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
primussuxxx Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
DMAC will have no impact on the 2012 Raiders? Seriously? puff puff pass.
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Show me a team whose “elite” running back has carried them to an NFL title in the last decade. I’ll wait.
If fans think a healthy McFadden is going to make a difference to the Raiders’ overall record in 2012, or for that matter the Raiders’ long-term success, they’re going to be sorely disappointed.
McFadden, even “when healthy”, is not superman. Good defenses keep him in check or stop him entirely. Elite offenses negate his impact by forcing the Raiders’ offense to throw more.
The Raiders need to build a TEAM. That’s how you sustain success in the NFL. Not by leaning on a single player, ESPECIALLY a running back, no matter how talented he might be.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:30 am
I wonder what Jerry Mac said to John Elway?
“hey man, why the long face?”
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No…I think somewhere more along the lines of “If you were a horse, who would you be?” “Mr. Ed or Seabiscuit?”
February 24th, 2012 at 8:38 am
20. No doubt, Hue put all the eggs in one basket to get his QB. When you put it in those terms, man I’m kicking rocks right now looking at those picks fly by us. The repair we could have done to the defense alone!
February 24th, 2012 at 8:40 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:36 am
primussuxxx Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
DMAC will have no impact on the 2012 Raiders? Seriously? puff puff pass.
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Show me a team whose “elite” running back has carried them to an NFL title in the last decade. I’ll wait.
If fans think a healthy McFadden is going to make a difference to the Raiders’ overall record in 2012, or for that matter the Raiders’ long-term success, they’re going to be sorely disappointed.
McFadden, even “when healthy”, is not superman. Good defenses keep him in check or stop him entirely. Elite offenses negate his impact by forcing the Raiders’ offense to throw more.
The Raiders need to build a TEAM. That’s how you sustain success in the NFL. Not by leaning on a single player, ESPECIALLY a running back, no matter how talented he might be.
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Absolutely right…this ain’t the NBA!!
February 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Post #19 small correction. Our 2nd not for Palmer for a trade to get extra pics last year. Next years 2nd for Palmer but I hope it will turn into a 1st!
February 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Nice times to be a raiderfan, I just wish some of us on here would understand its all gonna be a process and we might not win 2012 but anything possible . Have to ride this out , you cant be all tough on Reggie and Dennis in 2012 not without draft picks so far! Anything possible go raiders
February 24th, 2012 at 8:41 am
McFadden, even “when healthy”, is not superman. Good defenses keep him in check or stop him entirely. Elite offenses negate his impact by forcing the Raiders’ offense to throw more.
The Raiders need to build a TEAM. That’s how you sustain success in the NFL. Not by leaning on a single player, ESPECIALLY a running back, no matter how talented he might be.
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That said, he’s in the final year (ok one more voidable year left) of his deal and he’s paid like $5M this year. That’s cheap compared to the level of player he is at his position. He’s not the team, but he’s a valuable commodity to own, whether or not you play him or trade him.
I certainly agree that he’s not nor ever will be the focal point of the offense going forward. This is a passing league, and that needs to be developed more going forward. But having a franchise back at a reasonable price is the last of our worries.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Giants run game looked dam good in the playoffs. What would it look like with DMAC? What would Baltimore do without Rice. Two most important players on 0, QB and RB. Don’t give the queen for a Bishop.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:43 am
JC and Dmac not getting hurt= raiders winning the divsion and in the playoffs. Impact?
February 24th, 2012 at 8:43 am
raiderfankirk Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Who replaces DMAC? Each year he’s better and better. Giving up on a investment that keeps growing is not what the GM of any company does.
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Especially if the guy to replace him is Bush, who has gotten worse in YPC every year behind the exact same line.
I don’t understand this issue…
February 24th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Raiders fans are preoccupied with the idea of “replacing” DMac.
Few backs have the talent DMac does.
But GOOD football teams use a rotation guys who may not have the measurables or “game breaking potential” that DMac does to keep their offense on schedule. Keeping 3-4 running backs on the roster who have varying skill sets, and rotating them in as needed, gives your offense far more options than, for instance, leaning on one player and hoping he stays healthy (especially if he has a history of recurring foot injuries).
Good teams don’t need an elite running back. If an elite running back made your team good, then the Vikings and Jaguars would be perennial Superbowl contenders.
If DMac is an investment, then the Raiders need to sell high. He’s the only bargaining chip they have that has enough value to give them more options for the future. And his salary is one of the highest on the team – and one of several that does not match the player’s production.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Our 2nd not for Palmer for a trade to get extra pics last year.
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oh, thats right
thanks AW!
February 24th, 2012 at 8:45 am
You made a point that DMAC would have no impact on the Raiders record next year. I say you are wrong. Ok, maybe a Super Bowl champ has not come with a top running back leading the way of late, but to say a top flight running back when healthy will have no impact on the record, healthy or hurt, is just plain ludicrous. Now, you argument of winning championships without a top running back is a totally different argument. I was not talking championships, I am talking record. Your assessment is wrong. For example, we did not make the playoffs this year partly because we lost DMAC, in my opinion.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:46 am
As for DMAC getting traded, it is not gonna happen. we would get zero value for him. If we could get a first round pick, I am sure Reggie would do it, but I doubt we could even get a second. Most likely a third.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Lets just say they get a first for DMAC ( which they won’t because he won’t be traded ) What unproven player are gonna draft that’s better? I’ll wait for that one. And Steelers rode bettis in Ben’s first Superbowl.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:49 am
For example, we did not make the playoffs this year partly because we lost DMAC, in my opinion.
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PART of the reason the Raiders did not make the playoffs was indeed because of the RB situation. But it wasn’t because they didn’t have DMac specifically. It was because they waited for DMac and Jones to get healthy, while Bush was playing 30+ snaps a game, and the only other running back on the roster was Rock Cartwright. It was poor management of the roster.
Bush NEEDS a change-of-pace back, in particular one who does the things he doesn’t excel at – namely, off-tackle and perimeter runs. The Raiders don’t need a superstar to do those things. They just need another warm body with a skill set that includes outside runs to help them open up the playbook.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Our 2nd not for Palmer for a trade to get extra pics last year.
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oh, thats right
thanks AW!
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We got good value, as well: Joseph Barksdale may start at RT for us, and Taiwan Jones looks to be a key third-down guy (and maybe more).
February 24th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Show me a team whose “elite” running back has carried them to an NFL title in the last decade. I’ll wait.
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Name the last team to let their best player go and win a SB.
I will wait… (Think SD wishes they kept Drew Brees?)
February 24th, 2012 at 8:51 am
26. Thats why this year is different. The raiders were on the up and up. Before all the changes most were expecting the raiders to be a playoff team next season more than ever in like the last 10 years. We were talking a few tweaks not a major overhaul. Standards should be held high. Anything less than the playoffs= fail.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:52 am
And Steelers rode bettis in Ben’s first Superbowl.
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Bettis averaged 3.3 YPC in 2005, and gained 370 yards. He was the heart and soul of that team, but the reason they got to the Superbowl is because they had a balanced offense and great defense.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:52 am
If we could trade DMAC for a first or even a second and a 4th, I’d do that deal in a heartbeat. We have an exodus of talent on defense leaving the roster this spring, and we are going to be depleted. As much talent as we can get is going to be more of an impact going forward than replacing DMAC. He’s a luxury now. He wasn’t before, but now he is.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:53 am
38.Gdog Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Show me a team whose “elite” running back has carried them to an NFL title in the last decade. I’ll wait.
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Name the last team to let their best player go and win a SB.
I will wait… (Think SD wishes they kept Drew Brees?)
Or Tomlinson?… Heck, or Marty?
February 24th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Lets just say they get a first for DMAC ( which they won’t because he won’t be traded ) What unproven player are gonna draft that’s better? I’ll wait for that one. And Steelers rode bettis in Ben’s first Superbowl.
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Denver won TWO with TD… and a veteran QB (sound familiar?)
That wasn’t that long ago.
The Raiders simply need to baby McF more until the playoffs. There’s no reason he needs more than 10-15 carries a game. Think of what Gruden did with Kaufman. We led the league in rushing once Gruden cut down on Kaufmans load.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Name the last team to let their best player go and win a SB.
I will wait… (Think SD wishes they kept Drew Brees?)
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Comparing a QB to a RB is ridiculous.
DMac is not the Raiders’ best player. Sorry. The best player has to contribute in meaningful games.
In Carson Palmer isn’t the Raiders’ best player in 2012, DMac or no, the Raiders will not make the playoffs.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Nah, Raiders did not wait. Hue was just feeding the fans a crock o crap. he knew. DMAC is still not 100%. One thing Bush did that pissed me off is, he would do that damn stutter stepping before hitting the hole. what he needs to learn how to do is, lower his should and use that weight of his and hit the hole with no hesitation. I agree on no superstars to win but with the team we got now, we will have to ride on DMACs back. I think Bush is gone, unless no one offers him starting RB salary.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Darren mcfadden is our best player , BY FAR!!!! He will have EVERYTHING to do with our success next year. You cannot duplicate his explosiveness. If he is a pro bowler next year the RAIDERS will be one of the better teams in the afc. PERIOD.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:58 am
DMAC PRO BOWL = RAIDERS ELITE. print that.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:00 am
stevenTyler Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Darren mcfadden is our best player , BY FAR!!!! He will have EVERYTHING to do with our success next year. You cannot duplicate his explosiveness. If he is a pro bowler next year the RAIDERS will be one of the better teams in the afc. PERIOD.
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Totally agree.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:00 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Raiders fans are preoccupied with the idea of “replacing” DMac.
Few backs have the talent DMac does.
But GOOD football teams use a rotation guys who may not have the measurables or “game breaking potential” that DMac does to keep their offense on schedule. Keeping 3-4 running backs on the roster who have varying skill sets, and rotating them in as needed, gives your offense far more options than, for instance, leaning on one player and hoping he stays healthy (especially if he has a history of recurring foot injuries).
Good teams don’t need an elite running back. If an elite running back made your team good, then the Vikings and Jaguars would be perennial Superbowl contenders.
If DMac is an investment, then the Raiders need to sell high. He’s the only bargaining chip they have that has enough value to give them more options for the future. And his salary is one of the highest on the team – and one of several that does not match the player’s production.
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I definitely agree. One of the misshaps of Hue Jax was that he simply would not releive his running backs. He would run Bush into the ground and have no, I mean no reliever come in. Bush would end up fumbling or losing his explosion. If we would have just used a good reliever come in at the right time DMAC might have finihsed the season and Bush wouldn’t have diminished down the stretch.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Dennis Allen knows how good DMAC is because he had to TRY and stop him…
How can anybody believe that darren mcfadden is not the best and most valuable player on this team is not a football person, or you dont understand football.
Dmac is in a contract year and will be in full beast mode!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am
As much talent as we can get is going to be more of an impact going forward than replacing DMAC. He’s a luxury now. He wasn’t before, but now he is.
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Ok.. name the first round player that can make the same impact GUARANTEED.
Chop chop…
Name one can’t-miss player we could pick up… this should be good!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Quite trying to copy what these other teams do….the only reason they use multiple backs is because they dont have a darren mcfadden…ding ding ding.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:03 am
dmac is the the raiders best player. Dude was leading the league in rushing before he got hurt. But rushing teams do not win super bowls. Maybe back in the day. Not now.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:04 am
I definitely agree. One of the misshaps of Hue Jax was that he simply would not releive his running backs. He would run Bush into the ground and have no, I mean no reliever come in. Bush would end up fumbling or losing his explosion. If we would have just used a good reliever come in at the right time DMAC might have finihsed the season and Bush wouldn’t have diminished down the stretch.
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I agree, but have a different conclusion here. All this proves is that Bush is a nancy who needs to take his 3.8 ypc elsewhere. He got worse as the carries piled up, not better, not even the same. He wore down. 1000 yards is his kryptonite. He’s a big bodied pansy. We need a guy who relishes dishing out punishment in the 4th quarter. Bush isn’t it.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Assuming the Raiders can get a 2nd and 4th for McFadden:
They can use his salary to re-sign Tyvon Branch.
In the 2nd round, an impact pass-rusher like Whitney Mercilus or Vinny Curry will give the Raiders the versatility they need to run a defense with multiple looks. Alameda Ta’amu could also be available, and would immediately give the Raiders a much-needed gap-plugger on the inside of the defensive line.
In the 4th round, Josh Chapman or Nicolas Jean-Baptiste will provide the Raiders with an NT, which is something they currently do not have on the roster, and desperately need if they intend on showing more 3-4 looks. Isaiah Pead is a running back who will be available in the 4th. He has a similar skill set to McFadden’s, although is less physically imposing. Has special teams value, too – very solid returner.
Are any of these players “sure things”? No. But neither is McFadden. And considering all of these players will cost much less and give the Raiders a chance at improving the worst part of their team, it would be a mild risk for a potentially high reward.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Teams with superior players win super bowls….DMAC IS A SUPERIOR PLAYER!! I dont give a damn about what other teams do. DMAC makes this team dangerous, without him it is boring and stale
February 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Morning/afternoon peoples! (TGIF)
Hope you guys ate your weaties.
Its a beautiful morning in the O-A-K!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
DMac is not the Raiders’ best player. Sorry. The best player has to contribute in meaningful games.
In Carson Palmer isn’t the Raiders’ best player in 2012, DMac or no, the Raiders will not make the playoffs.
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There is a difference between “important” and “best.”
McF is clearly one of the top 3 RB’s in the NFL while healthy… maybe number 1 now that AP blew out his knee.)
Can you say that about CP??
He is top 12… and ironically might be top 5 with McF playing.
But no way is he in the Brady, Brees, Rodgers class…
McFadden is clearly our most elite player.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Although I must admit, I can’t wait to see Dmac work with Palmer. Two home-run threats on offense. Throw in D-WOW Denarius Moore and we MAY have our “triplets”
February 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
We need a guy who relishes dishing out punishment in the 4th quarter. Bush isn’t it.
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Bush is that guy, but not when he’s already had 20 carries over the first three quarters.
Offer him $3-4 million a year at most. If he thinks he can get better money elsewhere, then the Raiders should go get Mike Tolbert or draft a guy like Terrance Ganaway.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Raiders fans are preoccupied with the idea of “replacing” DMac
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YA,
nah. most Raider fans just want to gamble on DMAC’s health
it’s that worthless bum McClain that fans say can’t be replaced. They just assume Reggie McKenzie can’t do better than Darryl Blackstock, Ricky Brown or Travis Goethel!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:08 am
I would love to have a dominant defense, but you cant take away the strength of the team just to try and build a defense. The offense is explosive and powerful, the defense will have to catch up, and i believe it will. Because darren mcfadden will be running wild next year. Print that
February 24th, 2012 at 9:09 am
DMAC makes this team dangerous
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The Ravens, Texans, Steelers, Patriots, Dolphins, and Colts would disagree.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Bush is gone…reggie is not gonna pay him anything….running backs are a dime a dozen…except for GREAT RBS LIKE DARREN MCFADDEN. Keep the great ones
February 24th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Again, the issue is not with DMac’s talent. It’s his durability.
He’s had ONE healthy season in four.
If we knew he’d be healthy and at or near 100% for 14 games or more next year, no way do we trade him.
But we don’t know that. And his pattern suggests that it will NOT be the case.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:11 am
I think I can agree that Bush is a complementary running back who should get complimentary pay. He doesn’t suck. But he’s no franchise guy either. If the Bengals want to pay him more to supplant Ced Benson, hey go for it.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:11 am
You cannot duplicate his explosiveness
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Or the explosiveness of his lisfranc joint.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Actually a potent passing attack, average run game, and average defense can get you a super bowl now.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Ray rice arian foster rashad mendenhall… If any of those teams had DMAC they would be MUCH better…how do you not see that??? Just like the raiders are way better with him also
February 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Why do people want to trade DMAC for draft picks?
His base salary for 2012 is 5,650,000 w/ a bonus of 1,066,667.
The draft is like shooting craps. You never know what you’ll get. You can draft a stud or a dud.
I’ll take my chances w/ an often injured, IMPACT player who can take one to the house at any moment and put 6 on the board for you.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Are any of these players “sure things”? No. But neither is McFadden.
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Are you nuts? He is while playing on an NFL playing field. The chumps you mentioned haven’t even set foot on one yet.
I can only imagine the empty stadium in Oakland after they trade their most exciting player and the team stinks next year… no CEO is this STUPID.
If so… McK deserves what he gets… a CP threatening to retire, and Mount Davis sitting 15 fans again…
February 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
it’s that worthless bum McClain that fans say can’t be replaced. They just assume Reggie McKenzie can’t do better than Darryl Blackstock, Ricky Brown or Travis Goethel!
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Good one! Friday Humor
February 24th, 2012 at 9:14 am
One great season by DMAC and the raiders will be as dangerous as any team in the afc…that is the fastest way to restore the raiders, is on the legs of darren mcfadden. Hope all you fans understand that!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:14 am
The whole get rid of Dmac because running backs dont win championships group is missing a major point, yes passing games win championships, BUT how does having an elite running back HURT your passing game? If we get rid of dmac it isn’t going to be in order to upgrade the qb or wr positions. I don’t expect Dmac to carry us to a championship, but when he is no longer the primary focus of our offense and we are more balanced teams will have a FAR more difficult time shutting him down. Dont compare past results, because McFadden never played with CP3
February 24th, 2012 at 9:14 am
He is while playing on an NFL playing field.
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Which is when, exactly?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:15 am
guest123 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:04 am
I definitely agree. One of the misshaps of Hue Jax was that he simply would not releive his running backs. He would run Bush into the ground and have no, I mean no reliever come in. Bush would end up fumbling or losing his explosion. If we would have just used a good reliever come in at the right time DMAC might have finihsed the season and Bush wouldn’t have diminished down the stretch.
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I agree, but have a different conclusion here. All this proves is that Bush is a nancy who needs to take his 3.8 ypc elsewhere. He got worse as the carries piled up, not better, not even the same. He wore down. 1000 yards is his kryptonite. He’s a big bodied pansy. We need a guy who relishes dishing out punishment in the 4th quarter. Bush isn’t it.
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I can’t really fault Bush down the stretch. If you remember CP was just coming in and Bush had the bullseye post DMAC’s foot. If everyone on the D knows that your gonna run…well. There were also periods where our receivers were hurt and we became really one-dimensional. I still beleive that Bush would have exploded in games if Hue Jax would have utilized another back just to spell him up once in while. Maybe Mcfadden saw the HUEJAX method and decided to sit out the rest of the season
February 24th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Considering Mckenzie is taking over a team that needs a serious overhaul on defense, is over the cap with “out of whack” contracts, and the team has very little to work with as far as draft picks..If the team looks any better than they did last year then Reggie deserves a ton of credit.
Now if it looks like the offense falls off a considerable amount AND the defense is hardly improved then he absolutely will have to face some criticism, even though it will be his first season as GM. And sorry Allen will get some blame also but Reggie mostly because the coaching change was his decision.
With that being said, he obviously gets more than one season to right the ship.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Darren mcafadden pro bowl = RAIDERS greatness
Embrace it
February 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
John Elway also believes Tim Tebow is the QB of the future in Denver. LMAO
February 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Trading your best players for “hot prospects” is what the Pitts Pirates keep doing.
Not sure that is the business model McK should be emulating…
February 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Bush is a nancy who needs to take his 3.8 ypc elsewhere. He got worse as the carries piled up, not better, not even the same. He wore down. 1000 yards is his kryptonite. He’s a big bodied pansy. We need a guy who relishes dishing out punishment in the 4th quarter. Bush isn’t it.
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G123 has full authority to speak on my behalf in matters regarding Mike Bush – Ron Dayne II
February 24th, 2012 at 9:17 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
We need a guy who relishes dishing out punishment in the 4th quarter. Bush isn’t it.
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Bush is that guy, but not when he’s already had 20 carries over the first three quarters.
Offer him $3-4 million a year at most. If he thinks he can get better money elsewhere, then the Raiders should go get Mike Tolbert or draft a guy like Terrance Ganaway.
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Sorry YA, but I have to disagree w/ Bush being a punisher. Looks like he’s scared of contact, because he probably doesn’t want to reinjure that leg.
I do want to see him back at that price range and if he walks Tolbert could be a great fit here.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Interally, you know that Reggie Mac knows more about where DMAC’s foot is right now. If it’s worse, he won’t be able to hide that info should trade offers come in. But if it’s better, how much of a bluff does he pull to reel in the best offer?
Will we ever know on draft day?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:18 am
stevenTyler Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Ray rice arian foster rashad mendenhall… If any of those teams had DMAC they would be MUCH better…how do you not see that??? Just like the raiders are way better with him also
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And those teams are all stronger in every aspect of the game than the Raiders are. If DMac was the final piece in the puzzle? Sure, take the chance he’ll be healthy in 2012. But he’s a questionable piece in a far from complete puzzle.
And to be fair, all of those running backs produced more than DMac did last season. And when Foster and Mendenhall were hurt? Those teams plugged in replacements who were suitable enough to keep those offenses moving.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:19 am
it’s that worthless bum McClain that fans say can’t be replaced. They just assume Reggie McKenzie can’t do better than Darryl Blackstock, Ricky Brown or Travis Goethel!
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I’m not saying Reggie can’t find a guy to replace McClain but as of today we are 11 million over the cap, if we cut McClain we are 19 million over the cap. We already have 11 million in cuts to make just to get in compliance, PLUS however much room we need to free up to add in some guys, now you want us to tack on another 8.5 million in room we have to free up? It isn’t fiscally sound, cutting romac hurts this team FAR more than it helps us. Plus, sorry to say, I don’t see Reggie or DA getting rid of a 22 yo LB without at least trying to mold him in their image.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:19 am
why are Raider fans so concerned about DMAC’s health?
Hue Jackson said he was 100% like 3 days after the season ended!
did he go ride ATV’s with JCamp, Ford & DHB or something?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:20 am
DMAC Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Morning/afternoon peoples! (TGIF)
Hope you guys ate your weaties.
Its a beautiful morning in the O-A-K!
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I guess it’s never too late.
Well then…………
Fk you guys 2 on this beautiful, sunny morning.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:21 am
There were also periods where our receivers were hurt and we became really one-dimensional.
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Revisionist history… CP gave Bush TWO 400 yard games passing to work with the last three games, and Bush responded with 66 and 77 yards, averaging 3 YPC.
Both were losses.
There isn’t a RB in the NFL that couldn’t do that.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:21 am
I don’t see Reggie or DA getting rid of a 22 yo LB without at least trying to mold him in their image.
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BCZ,
the Raiders need a MLB who isn’t afraid to pull the trigger!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Steven Tyler!! Good to see you in here, just please keep your shirt on, bro!…lol
February 24th, 2012 at 9:21 am
DMAC Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Why do people want to trade DMAC for draft picks?
His base salary for 2012 is 5,650,000 w/ a bonus of 1,066,667.
The draft is like shooting craps. You never know what you’ll get. You can draft a stud or a dud.
I’ll take my chances w/ an often injured, IMPACT player who can take one to the house at any moment and put 6 on the board for you.
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You make a good point…Which reminds me of another player that makes less than Kameron Wimbley!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:21 am
are YOU PEOPLE calling hue jackson a liar ???
February 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Was expecting to see Hue on Real Housewives of Oakland getting his nails done at the salon.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
RIP,
steven tyler is feminine. if that guy didn’t have the music thing going for him, he’d still be a v1g1n
February 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Gdog Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Trading your best players for “hot prospects” is what the Pitts Pirates keep doing.
Not sure that is the business model McK should be emulating…
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You mean Billy Beane?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
RIP,
steven tyler is feminine. if that guy didn’t have the music thing going for him, he’d still be a v1g1n
*******
yep,
dude looks like a lady
February 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I agree with #85. Romac is much like the investment made in Palmer. Reggie will give both at least a year to prove their worth.
As far as getting rid of DMAC, I say get him healthy and under the guidance of the new training staff. If he is still fragile in 2012, THEN maybe we think about other options with him…
February 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
BCZ,
the Raiders need a MLB who isn’t afraid to pull the trigger!
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They have him. He will pull the trigger right next to your head!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:21 am
I don’t see Reggie or DA getting rid of a 22 yo LB without at least trying to mold him in their image.
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BCZ,
the Raiders need a MLB who isn’t afraid to pull the trigger!
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lol
Nice one!
Ej Henderson??
February 24th, 2012 at 9:27 am
I actually do not want Bush back, unless we play Sandy Eggo every game, then I want him back. watch the tape, look at how he constantly stutter steps before hitting holes, which by then are usually getting smaller. He has no balls, unless playing the chargers who had numerous injuries on the defensive side of the ball. I would take my chance on someone else. we need a power back to compliment DMACd and Jones. Bush just looks like a power back.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
RRS & Guest, I totally agree with you… lol
Must have written that tune about himself.. and its a damn ugly lady at that!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Good/great players are gonna cost money. Good/great players are neccessary to win Super Bowls.
Too much concern over “this guy costs too much” etc. etc.
Raiders might be restricted somewhat THIS yr. cuz of contracts on bad players or guys who aren’t worth it, but eventually if you really want to win you’ve gotta spend $.
The argument of “but where has that gotten us in the past?” is funny.
Does that mean “well since we spent $ on guys that didn’t work out, we should stop spending money”. No, you just start being smarter about it.
You cannot win in this league being the cheapest. Even GB spends the big money on the RIGHT guys cuz they have to.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Hue Jax ix a liar and a snake oil salesman.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Another problem area has been identified. One of the most explosive backs in the league and leading rusher, when healthy, Darren Macfadden, makes less money than Kameron Wimbley, the pass-”pressuring” outside linebacker than can’t play the run or cover a paper weight
February 24th, 2012 at 9:29 am
The only sure thing about McFadden: He will hurt his foot/toe/ankle/ next year, and he will not play through the pain. But, he’s cheap enough to keep around until he gets hurt and he will probably perform well until it happens. That’s why Either A) Taiwan Jones needs to break out, or B) we need to get someone else (Bush or otherwise) who can fill in after McFadden goes down. Personally, I am betting McFadden doesnt even make it out of training camp this year before hitting the IR.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
As much as I appreciate having Bush, I’m all for letting him walk. As long as we bring in say, Mike Tolbert!!
Then we could call our backfield ‘Pound and pound a little more’!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Some of you cats are foolish as all get out… When DMC is on the field the D’s are back on they’re heals, whether we’re running the ball or not. In turn this sets up the passing game for wide open WR’s down the field.
Why in the world would we trade a player with DMC’s skill set? We would be left with Taiwan because Bush is a FA and I really don’t think he will be coming back. Trade DMC for a draft pick and get a player that may or may not pan out? DMC is a beast when he’s healthy, he can do it all. I agree that he is a little fragile but we have no reason to trade him considering he, at one point in the season was the best back in the league (until he got hurt). We need to pick up a bruiser and hope that Taiwan gets better.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Stole this off a Raider board…
In terms of yearly earnings (apy), here are the ten highest paid running backs in football:
1. Adrian Peterson — 7 years, 96 million. 36 million guaranteed (13.7apy).
2. Darren McFadden — 6 years, 60 million. 26 million guaranteed (10apy).
3. Chris Johnson — 6 years, 55 million. 30 million guaranteed (9.17apy).
4. DeAngelo Williams — 5 years, 43 million. 21 million guaranteed (8.6apy).
5. Steven Jackson — 6 years, 44.8 million. 20.5 million guaranteed (7.47apy).
6. Frank Gore — 4 years, 25.9 million. 13.5 million guaranteed (6.48apy).
7. Maurice Jones-Drew — 5 years, 31 million. 17.5 million guaranteed (6.2apy).
8. Michael Turner — 6 years, 34.5 million. 15 million guaranteed. (5.75apy).
9. C.J. Spiller — 5 years, 25 million. 20.8 million guaranteed (5apy).
10. Jamaal Charles — 6 years, 28 million. 10 million guaranteed (4.67apy).
February 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Said it before and I’ll say it again. The Raiders need two new running backs to crack the final roster this season. One to replace Bush, and another to compete with Jones for McFadden’s spot after McFadden gets hurt.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Fk the Dischargers, but I must admit would like to see that bowling ball Tolbert in Oakland. The perfect back-up who isn’t afraid of contact, unlike Bush.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am
The earlier Aerosmith stuff was great like their “Rocks” album.
The crap from the 90’s and beyond is more made to be commercial and it is.
I have never watched an episode of Idol I can proudly say as it is the reason music sucks so bad in the modern era. The fact that a legend such as Tyler has sold out to a commercial popularity contest is only tainting his rick legacy.
SMH
February 24th, 2012 at 9:33 am
when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy when healthy
… when?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:33 am
BCZ,
the Raiders need a MLB who isn’t afraid to pull the trigger!
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They have him. He will pull the trigger right next to your head!
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HILARIOUS LMAO!!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:34 am
DMAC Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Fk the Dischargers, but I must admit would like to see that bowling ball Tolbert in Oakland. The perfect back-up who isn’t afraid of contact, unlike Bush.
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Might be an even better receiver out of the backfield than Bush is, too.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Everybody in here wanted whole sale changes when Al was running the show. Now we got a guy that’s willing to do it and everybody is freaking out.
I trust that Reggie is the right man for the job until he shows me otherwise. Everyone else should too.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
I know McFadden has his injury history but I don’t understand the perception that he is a pvssy all of the sudden around here? I mean last year the dude cleans Groves clock in TC and cracks his own skull in the process, sits out ALL of TC and pre-season, and proceeds to drop 150 on the donkeys week 1. No one calls him a pvssy when he is destroying safeties at the tail end of a 30 yard run. No one calls him a pvssy when he puts Haloti Ngata on his ass with a vicious block. No one calls him a pvssy when he tackles Vince Wilfork after his int.
Damn a guy gets hurt in a sport with a 100% injury rate and all the sudden his a pvssy. I bet some of you lame a$$es wont even go to work when you get the sniffles… but you want to sit on your ass and imply that man is a pvssy.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
his Rock legacy
February 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
raiderjhawk Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Everybody in here wanted whole sale changes when Al was running the show. Now we got a guy that’s willing to do it and everybody is freaking out.
I trust that Reggie is the right man for the job until he shows me otherwise. Everyone else should too.
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Hell yeah dude. I am with you. For once I am at ease with whatever decisions come down the pipeline. No more overpaying for underachieving talent. No more reaching in drafts because dude can fly. No more excuses, no more overhead projectors. don’t get me wrong, I love Al, but he lost his football touch in the mid to late 80’s.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Bush thinks he’s a twinkle toes type running back, I think that he forgets that he is 245 lbs and if he hits someone head on they won’t want him to do it again. Plus he could very well get Carson killed back there!
See ya Bush, it was fun while it lasted!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Maybe McFragile and Hue get their nails did in the same salon.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Right on Primus!
Bcz24, I’m with you! At the beginning of the season DMC was lowering his shoulder and straight mowing over fools. He plays hard all the time and gets hurt alot and now everyone wants to trade him for a draft pick.
So should the Vikings trade AP because he’s had some injury history with them as well?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
They have him. He will pull the trigger right next to your head!
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BCZ,
ROMAC doesn’t take proper angles?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
I love the fact the Big Mack is in control!!!!
His message is clear, perform and earn what you are being paid, or you are out. NO ONE IS UNTOUCHABLE OR IMMUNE.
Im sure the next two season will be about turning over the roster, and implemetning new systems. This is a full on rebuild, over haul and purge.
Lots of the fat cat players will be gone this year, and guy that we couldnt cast off this year, will be gone next year if they dont perform up to standard. This includes guys that are too injured to answer the bell, dmac, and ford. This includes guys that are knuckle heads off the field and locker room divas, romac, and palmer. This also includes guys that are over rated and are no longer system fits, like palmer.
Im ok with 5-8 wins for the next two seasons as we clean house and rebuild. Year 3-4 is where i expect to be playoff ready.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
You guys still talking about trading DMAC?!
Trade our best player on offense for draft picks (hopes & dreams)?! No Thank you!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Im with you Bcz24… I dont think DMAC is a puss at all.. In fact since he’s changed his running style to ‘downhill’, he’s been a straight up BEAST!!..
Calling a RB a puss over a broken (yeah, lets come out and say broken, folks, unlike Hue) foot is like calling a boxer with a broken hand a puss… Thats his bread and butter!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am
” No one calls him a pvssy when he is destroying safeties at the tail end of a 30 yard run. ”
Well he is a 220 lb running back hitting a 180 pound safety.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Wow! I know the Cap is not the final say, but this is really telling, difference between the Raiders and whiners contracts situations…
“Their situations are different in that Baalke is hoping to properly maintain and improve a 13-3 team. He has a reported $30 million to $35 million of room under the salary cap and a full complement of draft picks.
McKenzie is a reported $11 million over the cap and has picks in only the fifth and six rounds because of trades that took place before he arrived last month.”
per Jerry MAc
February 24th, 2012 at 9:43 am
bcz24 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:36 am
I know McFadden has his injury history but I don’t understand the perception that he is a pvssy all of the sudden around here? I mean last year the dude cleans Groves clock in TC and cracks his own skull in the process, sits out ALL of TC and pre-season, and proceeds to drop 150 on the donkeys week 1. No one calls him a pvssy when he is destroying safeties at the tail end of a 30 yard run. No one calls him a pvssy when he puts Haloti Ngata on his ass with a vicious block. No one calls him a pvssy when he tackles Vince Wilfork after his int.
Damn a guy gets hurt in a sport with a 100% injury rate and all the sudden his a pvssy. I bet some of you lame a$$es wont even go to work when you get the sniffles… but you want to sit on your ass and imply that man is a pvssy.
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DMAC’s fk’n stud WHEN healthy.
Here’s a cheers, to DMAC’s first future pro bowl appearance.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Calling a RB a puss over a broken (yeah, lets come out and say broken, folks, unlike Hue) foot is like calling a boxer with a broken hand a puss… Thats his bread and butter!!
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Yup. did Raider fans expect Jason Campbell & Bruce Gradkowski to play thru shattered shoulders the past 2 seasons?
Jay Cutler wouldn’t even wrap up his friggin pinky finger!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
You People,
Let’s trade Palmer, Moore, Veldheer, and ford too.
Palmer had more INTs than TDs
Moore had less than 30 catches
Ford was injured, again
Veldheer had 10 penalties
Who else can we trade in offense?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Mistic, where are you getting that CP is a locker room diva? Sources please. I’ve never heard anything like that at all, all I’ve ever heard is that he’s a exceptional leader and great team mate.
Best QB we’ve had since Gannon, a bit of a gun slinger but I like it! He’s going to surprise the heck out of all these naysayers in here next season. You can take that to the bank my friend! I truly think he’ll be a top 5 QB for sure…
February 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
On*
February 24th, 2012 at 9:46 am
126.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am
” No one calls him a pvssy when he is destroying safeties at the tail end of a 30 yard run. ”
Well he is a 220 lb running back hitting a 180 pound safety.
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Haloti Ngate is 6′4″ 330lbs… Yeah DMac dropped him to
February 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Not saying DMAC is a pxssy for playing with a broken foot. But if he has structural issues, he’s no more realiable to us than Chaz Shilens. It is what it is. DMAC is a guy who could still be great, or we may have already seen his best work and he’s gonna retire early.
If we can unload him for a good pick, ie. sell high, co-sign on that deal. Too much unknown, too much uncertainty.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Well he is a 220 lb running back hitting a 180 pound safety.
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180 pound safety?!?! Not in the last 20- 30 years!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:48 am
“Haloti Ngate is 6′4″ 330lbs… Yeah DMac dropped him to”
That is something to talk about not destroying a 180lb safety.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
I don’t think there is a starting safety in the NFL who weighs less than 190+ pounds, and that’s a FS.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
“180 pound safety?!?! Not in the last 20- 30 years!”
Whatever you get the point!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:51 am
YA,
ditching DMAC for Bush is like ditching a supermodel who is a great lay and only gives it to you once per week in exchange for a butterface who’ll give it to you any time you like – but lies there like a dead fish
sometimes it’s worth the wait!!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:51 am
raidertalk Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Wow! I know the Cap is not the final say, but this is really telling, difference between the Raiders and whiners contracts situations…
“Their situations are different in that Baalke is hoping to properly maintain and improve a 13-3 team. He has a reported $30 million to $35 million of room under the salary cap and a full complement of draft picks.
McKenzie is a reported $11 million over the cap and has picks in only the fifth and six rounds because of trades that took place before he arrived last month.”
per Jerry MAc
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Jerry keeps talking about the cap not being an issue. Just move some money here, there, forward, etc and problem is solved. That was the Al Davis way. I don’t think that Reggie Mac wants to perform his capology strategy the same way. He’s cleaning house, taking names, whittling salary and setting up for 2013 and 2014.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
guest, DMAC is no better to us then Chaz huh? That’s insane! What has Chaz ever shown us in the regular season that you would make that comparison? Chaz showed us glimpses in pre season and usually didn’t make it any farther then that because of injury. These two guys aren’t even in the same category dude.
STOP THE INSANITY!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
CB DVD is 175-180 pounds, and most people think he should gain weight.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:54 am
ditching DMAC for Bush is like ditching a supermodel who is a great lay and only gives it to you once per week in exchange for a butterface who’ll give it to you any time you like – but lies there like a dead fish
sometimes it’s worth the wait!!
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February 24th, 2012 at 9:55 am
DMAC is staying! Get over it!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Dmac is a beast when he plays.
problem is that he doesn’t play half the time.
so if macs people can figure out what causes these injuries, keep him.
If not, then he should go.
If the line is making holes, hire an rb to go through them.
Rb’s are not indispensable. Lots of them out there.
We need Dmac if we have no freaking line.
As Belicheck says, “Do your job.”
Everybody does their job then the only star you need is a decent QB (the brains) and maybe a linebacker and safety that makes skill players fear for their life.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Not saying DMAC is a pxssy for playing with a broken foot. But if he has structural issues, he’s no more realiable to us than Chaz Shilens
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G123,
Chaz was healthy last year! he was active for 15 games and many Raider fans think he’s our best redzone WR
earlier this week I was calling for Hagan & JLH to be re-signed, but dudes countered with Chaz Schilens instead!
if DMAC is active for 15 games next season, he’s going to the Pro Bowl & the Raiders will have at least 1 home playoff game
February 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
raiderjhawk Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
guest, DMAC is no better to us then Chaz huh? That’s insane! What has Chaz ever shown us in the regular season that you would make that comparison? Chaz showed us glimpses in pre season and usually didn’t make it any farther then that because of injury. These two guys aren’t even in the same category dude.
STOP THE INSANITY!
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DMAC = Chaz as of right now. Thanks for the 2010 production DMC, but until you get a full bill of health on your foot, that’s the status you fall to. Prove the health and we can revisit this, but for now you are a huge ?
February 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Mark has stated publicly that one of his MAIN priorities is getting this stadium issue “settled”.
Does it help or hurt his chances if the Raiders win or lose right now?
Winning cures EVERYTHING.
Logic states that an 8-8 team…a YOUNG team basically would be poised to take the “next step”.
It’s a tough sell for Mark to say “Hey look. We are 4-12 but…I promise you that we will be good someday. Maybe in the next couple years for sure”.
Does it help his cause of promoting the Raiders to have 30,000 in the stands, waning interest from an already jaded fan base, and no guarantee of future success?
Unless…the goal is use that waning interest as a reason, or excuse to move the team to greener pastures.
“Hey, it’s obvious our position in Oakland is untenable. The fans don’t even support us anymore, therefore we MUST move to LA, or WHEREVER to continue to exist as a viable franchise. I’m sorry Oakland but YOU were the ones that let us down and shown us you just don’t care anymore”.
My point is LOSING right now (becuz of a massive rebuild)does not seem to support Mark’s STATED desire for a new stadium.
NOBODY WANTS LOSERS.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
raiderjhawk Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Mistic, where are you getting that CP is a locker room diva? Sources please. I’ve never heard anything like that at all, all I’ve ever heard is that he’s a exceptional leader and great team mate.
Best QB we’ve had since Gannon, a bit of a gun slinger but I like it! He’s going to surprise the heck out of all these naysayers in here next season. You can take that to the bank my friend! I truly think he’ll be a top 5 QB for sure…
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thats easy,
In cicny he went to owner mike brown and demanded certain players be traded or cut, and demanded the firing of head coach marvin lewis. This is classic locker room diva behavior. Further more when he was rebuffed and didnt get what he wanted he demanded to be traded. When that didnt happen he packed his bags and went home quitting on the queen city, and his team, and failed to honor his huge contract that he recently signed with the bungles.
I also saw him throw a pick then blow a chance at an end of half field goal to keep the game close. When time was running out he made a bone headed pass (out of sheer panic) to a guy that was no where near the side line. instead of taking responsibility, and being accountable, he proceeds to get into a shouting match with head coach hu jack as they are walking into the tunnel!!!!!!
DIVA
February 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Raider O Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
CB DVD is 175-180 pounds, and most people think he should gain weight.
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Maybe 175lbs, soaking wet, w/ pads, helmet, cleats, mouth piece, gloves, earrings, wave cap, and a football on his hands.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
138.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
“180 pound safety?!?! Not in the last 20- 30 years!”
Whatever you get the point!
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The average strong safety in the NFL weighs 207+, not a huge difference from McFadden
February 24th, 2012 at 9:58 am
If we are truly in rebuilding mode we would trade DMAC but of we want to compete for a title next year and in 2013 then we will keep him.
DMAC is a luxury that we cannot afford (Rock Star that plays half a season) but he is already under contract.
I would assume that if we keep DMAC that Reggie feels we can compete next year for the AFC West.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:58 am
DMAC had no impact? Dude was huge in the first half of the season. Carried the team.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:58 am
You guys all realize that there isn’t any post that mentions Darren Mcfadden without using the word “if”.
“If” and DMC are mutually exclusive.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:59 am
DVD weighs less than most of your girlfriends!
February 24th, 2012 at 9:59 am
raiderjhawk Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:39 am
So should the Vikings trade AP because he’s had some injury history with them as well?
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Peterson hasn’t suffered injuries that caused him to miss most of the year in 3/4 of his seasons so far. DMac has.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:00 am
If DMAC stays healthy RR, Palmer has a better season, and our Defense improves, then we can be a real contender.
Look at the whiners and Texans.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:00 am
“Bcz24 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
138.Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
“180 pound safety?!?! Not in the last 20- 30 years!”
Whatever you get the point!
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The average strong safety in the NFL weighs 207+, not a huge difference from McFadden”
yeah well I meant corner and typed safety in response so kill me for making a freaking typing error.
SMH
February 24th, 2012 at 10:00 am
hopes & dreams
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About sums up the chance that McFadden will have a healthy season where he contributes where it counts.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:58 am
If we are truly in rebuilding mode we would trade DMAC but of we want to compete for a title next year and in 2013 then we will keep him.
DMAC is a luxury that we cannot afford (Rock Star that plays half a season) but he is already under contract.
I would assume that if we keep DMAC that Reggie feels we can compete next year for the AFC West.
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I say “eff it” and admit we are in rebuilding mode. No shame in it.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Huejack called stupid @ss plays. 16th in red zone. Cp probably had issues w him.
And who the hell wouldn’t want out of Cinci, the bunghole of the nfl at the time?
I get it. Do the job you’re paid for. But cinci. comes a point when enuf is enuf.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I agree with others that say that DMC (healthy or not) isn’t going to make the Raiders a playoff team next year. If his presense is only good to sell tix, why keep him if we can get valuable picks for him (if that is still the case)?
February 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:59 am
DVD weighs less than most of your girlfriends!
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Why are you insulting people again, and calling their girlfriends fat cows? LOL
5′6- 6′ and 175+?!?! No thank you!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Peterson hasn’t suffered injuries that caused him to miss most of the year in 3/4 of his seasons so far. DMac has.
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AP destroyed his knee last year, there is a chance he will never be the same player again… should they trade him? They are rebuilding and could certainly use the draft picks elsewhere.
The main reason you guys want to trade Dmac is because of his history of injuries, but you think the other 31 teams in the NFL will overlook that and give us fair compensation for the guy. Deluded thinking. If we are willing to part ways with DMac, that would be a clear red flag to the rest of the league that there is something wrong with his foot and his market value would drastically drop.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Healthy Palmer + healthy DMAC + improved D = playoffs
Why give up on that?
February 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Why are you insulting people again, and calling their girlfriends fat cows? LOL
5′6- 6′ and 175+?!?! No thank you!
******
36-24-36? Only if your 5 foot three…
February 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider O Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:59 am
DVD weighs less than most of your girlfriends!
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Why are you insulting people again, and calling their girlfriends fat cows? LOL
5′6- 6′ and 175+?!?! No thank you!
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I’ll take 175lbs in ass, titts and hips.
Booooooooya!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Why are you insulting people again, and calling their girlfriends fat cows? LOL
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O,
you’re excluded. I know you’re married with kids
btw, your boy Linsanity got destroyed by my Heat!!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am
“And who the hell wouldn’t want out of Cinci, the bunghole of the nfl at the time?
I get it. Do the job you’re paid for. But cinci. comes a point when enuf is enuf.”
yeah I get that when the inmates are running the asylum and you are working hard to win a championship its very disheartening.
I liken it to me at the office working hard trying to meet a deadline while my coworkers come in hung over and take a 2 hour lunch and surf the web all day. Nothing pizzes a guy off more than that!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am
yeah well I meant corner and typed safety in response so kill me for making a freaking typing error.
SMH
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No you didn’t because you specifically replied to me mentioning him running over safeties.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I liken it to me at the office working hard trying to meet a deadline while my coworkers come in hung over and take a 2 hour lunch and surf the web all day. Nothing pizzes a guy off more than that!
^^^^
February 24th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Did you guys see that fool Laron Laundry?
Dude is probably on the juice and the first pic is hella fake.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/photos-laron-landry-big-incredible-hulk-big-225404479.html
February 24th, 2012 at 10:09 am
hopes & dreams
======================
About sums up the chance that McFadden will have a healthy season where he contributes where it counts.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
DMAC is under contract for TWO more seasons, so if he can’t stay healthy, then we can trade him next year.
I understand that wanting to keep DMAC (thinking he can stat healthy) is also based on “Hopes & Dreams”, but that’s not the only reason. The main reason is the fact that he is under contract for TWO more seasons, and we can all agree that when healthy he is a top tier RB.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am
DMAC is under contract for TWO more seasons
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last yr is voidable.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Im ok with 5-8 wins for the next two seasons as we clean house and rebuild. Year 3-4 is where i expect to be playoff ready.
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No way. We are 10-6 min next year. A improved D and a solid O. No more nail salons either.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am
guest123 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I liken it to me at the office working hard trying to meet a deadline while my coworkers come in hung over and take a 2 hour lunch and surf the web all day. Nothing pizzes a guy off more than that!
^^^^
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Got to luv them slackers!!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:12 am
wasting a lot of time speaking about DMAC. I may as well join in! His is valued only by us at this point. Need replacements bottom line!Has to be addressed , but he has no trade value and only upside is that he is close to contract year. Pitch hitter is what he should be with the bulk gevin to someone else! He is a back up due to durability period!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:12 am
“No you didn’t because you specifically replied to me mentioning him running over safeties.”
When I was referring to 180lb players that would be corners sorry I made a mistake and said safety.
Yes I was responding to you but I was trying to make a point that a lot of guys in the secondary might not be that big compared to a running back.
You were right I was wrong is that enough for you Bcz24?
February 24th, 2012 at 10:13 am
RR,
I was joking bro. No way I can be with a girl who weighs as much as I do/ did.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:13 am
People put too much ‘hope and dreams’ into draft picks… I personally value free agent pickups over draft picks because they’re a proven commodity…
Plus Oakland has had too many high round busts… Jamarcus and Gallery to name a few..
DMAC isnt going anywhere THIS year.. IMO
February 24th, 2012 at 10:14 am
165.The Big Banana Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Healthy Palmer + healthy DMAC + improved D = playoffs
Why give up on that?
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Exactly.
And it’s not just becuz we are long suffering fans who want instant gratification.
My gosh. Look what we’ve been through the past 9 yrs.
You gut a 4-12 team. NOT an 8-8 team that was a defensive stop from probably playing at N.E in the second round. (Yes I think we would’ve beaten a beat up Pittsburgh team at home n the 1st round).
February 24th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Gotta get back to work, have a good one, my Silver & Black brethren!!!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
This years Raiders motto isn’t “Committment to Excellence” or “Pride & Poise”, it’s “Hope & Change”
February 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Dennis Allen says DL and LB will be priorities this offseason. #Raiders
February 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
RR,
Lin can’t do it all by himself. Get Lin some real talent.
Btw, I didn’t watch the game, but I know he had 10+ TOs.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
I liken it to me at the office working hard trying to meet a deadline while my coworkers come in hung over and take a 2 hour lunch and surf the web all day. Nothing pizzes a guy off more than that!
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Silver,
what about a guy that blogs all day, while still getting more work done in between comments than ANY of his co-workers? always gets the highest possible reviews from the Supervisor and is looked up to by his peers?
February 24th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Dennis Allen says DL and LB will be priorities this offseason. #Raiders
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thanks, YA
it seems Kelly, Seymour, Henderson, Curry, McClain & Wimbley aren’t all safe!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:20 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Dennis Allen says DL and LB will be priorities this offseason. #Raiders
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Great news.
Hit the draft w/ D-line and LB’s.
Pretty positive that they’ll sign one of those top to mid FA DB’s.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Eddie Borsilli @Borsilli
Allen non committal on Wimbley, saying that no decisions have been made and they will continue to evaluate
February 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Eddie Borsilli @Borsilli
“Carson Palmer is athletic enough to run the style of offense that Matt Schaub ran in Houston”
February 24th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Guest123 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:11 am
DMAC is under contract for TWO more seasons
******
last yr is voidable.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
By him or the team?
February 24th, 2012 at 10:23 am
The Raiders have enough pieces in place to Rebuild and still contend next season….especially in the Afc west …lots of questions about Allen & His staff .. As well as McKenzie , but people who should know seem to have high praise for them…I think we have a lot to look forward to…
February 24th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Eddie Borsilli @Borsilli
Darren McFadden will be ready to go when they get started. He was in town last week, working out
February 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Allen non committal on Wimbley, saying that no decisions have been made and they will continue to evaluate
“Carson Palmer is athletic enough to run the style of offense that Matt Schaub ran in Houston”
-Eddie Borsilli
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woohoo. the haters shall be silenced!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
here we go again, i mentioned several players that are on the hot seat for this season and next and everyone gets stuck on palmer and the fact that i called him a diva. Then people roll out all the excuses why its is acceptable for a qb to sign a contract and quit when he doesnt have his demands met, and why it is ok for him to yell at the head coach after his own ridiculous screw up cost us crucial points.
Bottom line you only make excuses for the guy because you are his fan.
The good thing is big mack isnt a prisoner of fan hood, and palmer is under the microscope. If he continues to demonstrate these kim kardashian / j.lo-esque diva tendencies while at the same time serving up his massively under whelming qb play he will be gone by 2013.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
187.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Dennis Allen says DL and LB will be priorities this offseason. #Raiders
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thanks, YA
it seems Kelly, Seymour, Henderson, Curry, McClain & Wimbley aren’t all safe!
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Yey. Dennis watched tape and analyzed what is truly messed up with this team.
I like that.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:25 am
“Silver,
what about a guy that blogs all day, while still getting more work done in between comments than ANY of his co-workers? always gets the highest possible reviews from the Supervisor and is looked up to by his peers?”
Yes I am that guy as a sales manager we have quota’s and you either make your quota or you don’t there is no excuses. When you are over quota you can spend time here blogging but when I am not near quota I will not be here as I am sure you operate in a similar fashion.
Being good at what you do allows you the time to enjoy being a Raider fan!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am
“RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Allen non committal on Wimbley, saying that no decisions have been made and they will continue to evaluate
“Carson Palmer is athletic enough to run the style of offense that Matt Schaub ran in Houston”
-Eddie Borsilli
***
woohoo. the haters shall be silenced!”
It should silence the doubters but it wont….
February 24th, 2012 at 10:27 am
192.fingers Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:23 am
The Raiders have enough pieces in place to Rebuild and still contend next season….especially in the Afc west …lots of questions about Allen & His staff .. As well as McKenzie , but people who should know seem to have high praise for them…I think we have a lot to look forward to…
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Optimism?
Don’t worry, there will be plenty here who will tell you that everything sucks and there is no reason to be excited about anything.
Unless. you can get excited that there is a CHANCE that after gutting the team, that in 3-5 yrs. we MIGHT have a team that MIGHT be able to contend.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:27 am
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
Raiders Head Coach Dennis Allen, “First and foremost is guys have to be held accountable for their actions. We will preach that message.”
February 24th, 2012 at 10:28 am
“Bottom line you only make excuses for the guy because you are his fan.”
YES I am a Carson Palmer supporter and I firmly believe that he will be a top 5 QB next season.
No excuses many of players have been in bad situations and have risen above it as Palmer will do.
If Reggie and Coach Allen are in his corner then all the negative talk about Palmer is just that.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
DMac’s presence (or lack thereof) will have no impact on the Raiders’ overall record in 2012.
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Absolute nonsense.
His absence in the 2nd half of 2011 was severely felt.
From the moment he went down against KC, the Raider offense lost a vital component – the ability to score from anywhere on the field on the ground.
You don’t know squat if you think DMAC’s explosiveness wasn’t missed or didn’t/won’t have an impact on the Raider’s overall success.
Obviously, the QB is king – but besides the way Palmer performs – there isn’t a single player besides DMAC whose presence will have a greater impact on the Raider’s offensive fortunes in 2012.
If he’s able to go, the best all purpose RB in the NFL will certainly make a difference.
If he can’t go or is traded, he’ll be severely missed.
DUMP SLOWLANDO.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I need to add more LBs & DL to my Draft Value list.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Eddie Borsilli @Borsilli
Darren McFadden will be ready to go when they get started. He was in town last week, working out
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DMAC will play a total of 15-16 games next season and make his 1st pro bowl. (playoffs and superbowl included)
Yeah I said it!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Eddie Borsilli @Borsilli
“Carson Palmer is athletic enough to run the style of offense that Matt Schaub ran in Houston”
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This means nothing. The real question that must be answered ,is he good enough to run the system like schuab?
We also no he wont be running the exact same offense as schuab, this is why suanders is still on staff. It appears that this twitter opinion doesnt match big mack or knapps opinion.
Does anybody remember that schaub was eagle 7’s back up in atlanta, when knapp was there?
Knapp knows palmer is not a system fit, it doesnt matter what fans or twitter says
February 24th, 2012 at 10:30 am
I am sure you operate in a similar fashion.
Being good at what you do allows you the time to enjoy being a Raider fan!
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Silver,
I was talking about me! LOL
but I agree with ya
February 24th, 2012 at 10:30 am
193.YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Eddie Borsilli @Borsilli
Darren McFadden will be ready to go when they get started. He was in town last week, working out
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You mean his career is NOT over?
The Niner fans here will not be happy to hear that news.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am
It appears that this twitter opinion doesnt match big mack or knapps opinion.
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It’s a quote from Dennis Allen’s press conference.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raiders Head Coach Dennis Allen, “First and foremost is guys have to be held accountable for their actions. We will preach that message.”
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Reggie is swinging that axe right now. meeting with the agents of those slackers. I predict at least 3 starters from last year’s defense (Routt not included) will be whacked prior to the draft
February 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am
“Silver,
I was talking about me! LOL
but I agree with ya”
I figured you were.
I would like to chat with you about your corporate environment and what you do unfortunately we cant do it here.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am
I was thinking:
Hue said he asked McFadden what he likes to do, and installed a few plays just for him, which helped improve his production.
Does that mean that Knapp’s offense was not a good fit for McFadden?
February 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Q: Who is Ed Borsilli and is he qualified as a doctor to make this claim about DMAC being ready to go?
Follow up Q: Ready to go meaning, ready for workouts and no chronic flareups expected or full bill of health?
TIA
February 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am
#209,
Fine. Bring it on.
I won’t miss any of those doofuses on defense that ruined my football joy.
Curry and Dick Van Dyke can go too. I liked him in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, but his coverage sucked.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:28 am
“Bottom line you only make excuses for the guy because you are his fan.”
YES I am a Carson Palmer supporter and I firmly believe that he will be a top 5 QB next season.
No excuses many of players have been in bad situations and have risen above it as Palmer will do.
If Reggie and Coach Allen are in his corner then all the negative talk about Palmer is just that.
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recounting negative actions on the part of the player, is negative talk, and ther is no way to revise the history and produce a positive spin. The talk is negative based on actual history, not because of any thing else.
Why doesnt romac get the same pass for his diva behavior? he has failed leading and under performed as well, in fact his performance on field was far better than palmers last year.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Do you think Steve will post what was said at the Allen presser today?
February 24th, 2012 at 10:37 am
199.after a decade of subpar football in Oakland I’m ok with changes…. I don’t expect the team to be gutted but I do expect a more reasonable approach to contracts and drafts…. So yep, I’m optimistic .. And yep,plenty in here will always find something to be pessimistic and complain about… Human nature….like the Palmer trade… Somebody’s always gonna want to smear a high caliber trade like that…. It will be another season till we know if it’s was worth it… I like the potential Palmer has , so I’m ok with the trade till I have reason not to like it..
February 24th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I would like to chat with you about your corporate environment and what you do unfortunately we cant do it here.
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Silver,
simply put? I’m a desk jockey. I crunch numbers and do paperwork for a big hospital chain. no quotas. mon thru fri 8-5
I don’t make 6 figures, but I pay the bills and have ZERO credit card debt – including school loans
February 24th, 2012 at 10:37 am
My Weight Cap is 150 pounds, and that better be distributed to all the right places.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Turf toe, broken foot, lisfranic ankle sprain, …..call it what you want, McFragile wont play more than half a season. Which is why plan b at running back is crucial for this team.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am
“Why doesnt romac get the same pass for his diva behavior? he has failed leading and under performed as well, in fact his performance on field was far better than palmers last year.”
McClain held a gun to someones head Palmer has done nothing of the sort. Palmer came in midway through the season and had to adapt McClain has been here and knows the system or should know it.
There is no way to compare the two. Its easy to knock a guy that came in here midway through the season and had to try and carry a team without its star player and a total lack of defense. Sure Palmer made mistakes but give the guy a chance with a full off season and camps to show what he can do.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I don’t make 6 figures, but I pay the bills and have ZERO credit card debt – including school loans
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That’s the way to do it. Zero loans.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Nobody has complained about the palmer trade today. I only mentioned that he is under the microscope along with everyone else, and as usual it ruffles feathers of his fans.
His diva act and grossly under whelming on field performance has made it so.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am
simply put? I’m a desk jockey. I crunch numbers and do paperwork for a big hospital chain. no quotas. mon thru fri 8-5
I don’t make 6 figures, but I pay the bills and have ZERO credit card debt – including school loans
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This is eerie, we are like identical twins you and I, except I don’t crunch numbers.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am
That’s the way to do it. Zero loans
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O,
just the mortgage. truck is paid off. car will be paid off next month
February 24th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:40 am
“Why doesnt romac get the same pass for his diva behavior? he has failed leading and under performed as well, in fact his performance on field was far better than palmers last year.”
McClain held a gun to someones head Palmer has done nothing of the sort. Palmer came in midway through the season and had to adapt McClain has been here and knows the system or should know it.
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hmmm, ok i concede that is a fair point.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Raider O Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am
I was thinking:
Hue said he asked McFadden what he likes to do, and installed a few plays just for him, which helped improve his production.
Does that mean that Knapp’s offense was not a good fit for McFadden?
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No, it means CABLE’s offense wasn’t a good fit for DMac. Remember that when Hue came in, Knapp had been gone for over a season.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
The only loans You People should apply for should be from BOO.
Help us
Help you
BOO!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Housh on Palmer
Q: You played with Carson Palmer in his prime. You played with him after his injuries and coming out of “retirement.” Is he close to being back to what he was?
A: He’s different — was much more vocal in Oakland then I ever remember him in Cincinnati. That aspect he is different. Throwing the ball, it’s weird man. I thought he threw the ball with more velocity. I’m biased toward Carson, but when we worked out (during Palmer’s retirement) he was throwing the ball so hard — more so than going into his last year in Cincinnati. I think he noticed that. It was hard coming in midway. He said when he went in the first game against Kansas City, he only knew a few plays.
Then they had a bye, but it was harder than he thought. He admitted it to me. I think now, the offense he’s in with (coordinator Greg Knapp) is perfect, perfect, perfect for him. Greg Knapp probably has one of the best playbooks of any offensive coordinator I played under. What he likes to do with his quarterback is perfect for Carson. I think he’s going to do really well.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827174ed/article/houshmandzadeh-expects-palmer-to-rebound-with-raiders?module=HP11_content_stream
February 24th, 2012 at 10:45 am
“Silver,
simply put? I’m a desk jockey. I crunch numbers and do paperwork for a big hospital chain. no quotas. mon thru fri 8-5″
Sounds great because I take my work home with me and even on the weekends am filling out sales reports and preparing for next week.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:45 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am
It appears that this twitter opinion doesnt match big mack or knapps opinion.
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It’s a quote from Dennis Allen’s press conference.
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Ya -1
Supavillian -0
February 24th, 2012 at 10:46 am
@Dutch
good news, but I hope Housh doesn’t think he’s gonna be retained just because he’s talking up Knapp & Palmer!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:46 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Housh on Palmer
Q: You played with Carson Palmer in his prime. You played with him after his injuries and coming out of “retirement.” Is he close to being back to what he was?
A: He’s different — was much more vocal in Oakland then I ever remember him in Cincinnati. That aspect he is different. Throwing the ball, it’s weird man. I thought he threw the ball with more velocity. I’m biased toward Carson, but when we worked out (during Palmer’s retirement) he was throwing the ball so hard — more so than going into his last year in Cincinnati. I think he noticed that. It was hard coming in midway. He said when he went in the first game against Kansas City, he only knew a few plays.
Then they had a bye, but it was harder than he thought. He admitted it to me. I think now, the offense he’s in with (coordinator Greg Knapp) is perfect, perfect, perfect for him. Greg Knapp probably has one of the best playbooks of any offensive coordinator I played under. What he likes to do with his quarterback is perfect for Carson. I think he’s going to do really well.
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funny how I never heard any of this from Cork or Jerry
February 24th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Mystic1
I know we do not always see eye to eye on some aspects of our team but I do see your passion and respect that.
when a player on our team is under preforming we as rabid fans tend to get on them. I think that is acceptable and the reason we have this blog is to opine.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Silver,
when I go home, I don’t have to think about work. it’s family time. my weekends are my own
life is short bro. Gotta find time for fun & relaxation
Raider O was talking about owning your own business and climbing the corporate ladder the other day. that isn’t for everybody. that isn’t for me.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am
RR,
In this country:
Buying a home = getting a loan (unless you are Filthy rich, or build your own home on your property).
I want to own a home, but I refuse to pay more than 200K. I’m not paying a 1/4 million + for a POS house in CA, when I can own something better & cheaper in a different state/ country. The problem is I like CA, and I refuse to leave, so I will continue to rent till I find a solution for my problem.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Morning Raiders..
February 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Raider O Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am
RR,
In this country:
Buying a home = getting a loan (unless you are Filthy rich, or build your own home on your property).
I want to own a home, but I refuse to pay more than 200K. I’m not paying a 1/4 million + for a POS house in CA, when I can own something better & cheaper in a different state/ country. The problem is I like CA, and I refuse to leave, so I will continue to rent till I find a solution for my problem.
*********
You really should look outside of CA. That’s why I left, and I still own houses in CA and rent em out. You get a lot more for your money outside of CA. Trust me and thank me later.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:55 am
“Raider O was talking about owning your own business and climbing the corporate ladder the other day. that isn’t for everybody. that isn’t for me.”
When you work at a start up you have to put in the hours. I do not like what I do now compared to what I did 15 years ago (musician) but I do like money and for that there is a sacrifice.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Mystic1
I know we do not always see eye to eye on some aspects of our team but I do see your passion and respect that.
when a player on our team is under preforming we as rabid fans tend to get on them. I think that is acceptable and the reason we have this blog is to opine.
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LOL, its good bra, you kicked my ass that time. I can admit when im wrong, and that comparison was over the top…even for me.
My fingers are moving faster than my mind today
But you havent seen the last of the SupaVillain
muhuhuhahahaha
February 24th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Lets trade Wimbley to the Patriots..
3rd or 4th rounder should do.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Tommy Kelly to the Saints or Falcons..
These guys would probably re-do their contract for winning teams like these..
February 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Very informative Tj DoucheYerMomma. Now clean out your locker if you haven’t done so already.
Thanks in advance!
February 24th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Lets take a vote.
I have not seen Sully44 in a while he has either:
A: Been banned
B: got a job
C: his mom took his computer
So guys take a vote and lets see what we think happened to the troll.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
yep add tj to the locker room diva list
February 24th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Jerry Mac is workin up a good story about Allen after the presser today
February 24th, 2012 at 11:00 am
SeymourGlenn666, I have a job and I’m here. You “allegedly” have a job and you are here. So maybe remove B: from your attempt to take a troll poll.
Bottom line, who cares the reason Sully isn’t here!
February 24th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Lets take a vote.
I have not seen Sully44 in a while he has either:
A: Been banned
B: got a job
C: his mom took his computer
So guys take a vote and lets see what we think happened to the troll.
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Checked in for rehab.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am
243. Hes operating under a slew of new names. Admitted it a week or so ago.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Sounds like Wimbley and Huff are GONE
February 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
“243. Hes operating under a slew of new names. Admitted it a week or so ago”
Yes this is the most logical choice and is probably 100% correct.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:04 am
O,
nothing wrong with paying rent. My parents lived in the same house in Cali and paid rent for 25 years. Problem was, their landlord was a lazy bum who had health problems. nothing ever got fixed and they had to pay for their own home repairs & landscaping. If you add up the rent they paid, they could have purchased the home TWICE and got something in return after my mom passed away and my dad moved to Missouri
February 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am
243. Hes operating under a slew of new names. Admitted it a week or so ago.
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Anybody see the movie the “Thing” (John Carpenter).
February 24th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Sounds like Wimbley and Huff are GONE
^^^^^^^^
This is for the best, too expensive to keep for what they bring to the table. Time to move on.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Re a few previous posts. The 2 best players on the Raiders(and have been the past 3 years): Lechler and Jano.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
RRS
So you live in MO?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
sounds like there may be a Jeff Fisher & Albert Haynesworth reunion in St Louis ???
February 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
When could the Raiders trade players currently under contract?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:10 am
When could the Raiders trade players currently under contract?
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@Dutch
next month
February 24th, 2012 at 11:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
sounds like there may be a Jeff Fisher & Albert Haynesworth reunion in St Louis ???
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bradford could be gone too
February 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am
“I go to work…………….do my cat daddy………..CAT DADDY CAT DADDY CAT DADDY”
February 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am
@Silver
yes. Podunker since 2006
February 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am
When could the Raiders trade players currently under contract?
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@Dutch
next month
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Thanks!
February 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Tommy Kelly leave…Seymour yo can go too…..TJ Douchemanzadeh needs to shut up an retire….its way over…Wimbley redo the contract or get the fk out as well…..sick of this losing schit
February 24th, 2012 at 11:13 am
linsanity?!?!?! LMFAO
lin = flavor of the month
NEXT!!!!!
February 24th, 2012 at 11:14 am
You really should look outside of CA. That’s why I left, and I still own houses in CA and rent em out. You get a lot more for your money outside of CA. Trust me and thank me later.
$$$$$$$$$$$
Where do you recommend? I prefer warm areas & coastal weather, Mediterranean, or Tropical.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Wonderful weather today in the Bay Area on this glorious last Friday of February………..yall be cool and JUST WIN
February 24th, 2012 at 11:17 am
You really should look outside of CA. That’s why I left, and I still own houses in CA and rent em out. You get a lot more for your money outside of CA. Trust me and thank me later.
$$$$$$$$$$$
Where do you recommend? I prefer warm areas & coastal weather, Mediterranean, or Tropical.
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Florida! My girlfriends family lives in Orlando, you can buy a mansion for 275K that would be $1.5 in CA.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Wonder if we are going to trade anybody to Buffalo?
Did a google search for Kirk Morrions yeaterday and they may resign him to be a backup, but they might be going to a 4-3. They seem to like former Raiders…
February 24th, 2012 at 11:18 am
McKenzie said he expected to get more out of interview sessions and medical updates than the actual physical drills, which are tests of physical skill which may not have a lot to do with football, and chuckled at the notion that the Raiders may not have the fastest player in the 40-yard dash this season.
“If he can’t play football, then no, I’m afraid not,’’ McKenzie said.
So what are the Raiders looking for?
“The combine will really just tell you what kind of athlete, not what kind of football player he is,’’ McKenzie said. “We’re not looking to grade these guys out as football players. We’re looking to grade them out on what kind of athletes they are, and medically.
“You look at that and see what they do on film, and see if that co-relates.’’
While there is speculation that McKenzie plans on making major changes in the scouting department once the draft is completed, he said the process is going smoothly for this session.
“The communication has gone very well, and the guys have been very good about adjusting to things, and myself adjusting to them,’’ McKenzie said. “We’re looking to get on the same page and that’s what we’re doing.’’
^^^^^^^^
Focus on drafting FOOTBALL players first…and not focus on straight line 40 times!
That’s what I like to hear!
February 24th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I guess the Raiders are all done hiring coaches now.
Do ya’ think?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Lunch time suckas!
February 24th, 2012 at 11:27 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:17 am
You really should look outside of CA. That’s why I left, and I still own houses in CA and rent em out. You get a lot more for your money outside of CA. Trust me and thank me later.
$$$$$$$$$$$
Where do you recommend? I prefer warm areas & coastal weather, Mediterranean, or Tropical.
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Florida! My girlfriends family lives in Orlando, you can buy a mansion for 275K that would be $1.5 in CA.
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Florida sucks! I live in Tampa. Trust me, it’s no good. Orlando is a sweathole with no wind and burning hot. Makes the SJ valley seem like an oasis. Property taxes are horrific and crime is insane. Don’t go to Florida. I deeply regret it.
I have lived in Alabama. Now that’s a great place to live. Half the cost and quadruple the ammenities. Alabama is the place for me. Sweet Home Alabama, how I long to go back.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:27 am
If all the slots are filled yes. If there’s an open slot, no. Basic common sense!
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qodrn1 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I guess the Raiders are all done hiring coaches now.
Do ya’ think?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:28 am
How about them Lakers? LMAO
February 24th, 2012 at 11:30 am
W’s are gonna go get a big man and slide past LA into the 8th spot.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Re a few previous posts. The 2 best players on the Raiders(and have been the past 3 years): Lechler and Jano.
>>>>>
There’s tons of Raider fans that wanted Jano gone too.
Thats why they play Madden instead of GM a football team.
McFadden is staying unless someone throws McK an offer he can’t refuse (not likely.) Bush is not coming back because McK can find a comparable replacement at a fraction of the cost.
I thought Raider fans were excited about McK because he will bring logical football decisions back to the fold… why all this demand for crass, illogical, gambles and reaches?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Florida is a terrible state to live in. Bunch of weirdos living down there from what I understand.
Only thing good about it, is no state income tax.
You should look at Austin, Tx for investment property.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
if the knicks want to win, they better sit lin and start barron davis
lin had his 15 minutes its over
February 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I guess the Raiders are all done hiring coaches now.
Do ya’ think?
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Q,
we could still add a few defensive assistants.
otherwise Terrell Williams & Johnny Holland are on their own with a Defensive front seven that hasn’t been able to stuff the run in 9 years and faces some major scheme & personnel changes over the next 6 months
February 24th, 2012 at 11:33 am
HUGE NEWS OUT OF THE BEEECH DAWG CAMP
Yo blog brahs, goobers & assorted dweebos
Oh and you too, Krappy
After a week of meetings with my all star production team, the Certified Platinum Posse, smoking almost a pound of Santa Cruz skunk weed and snapping the springs in the PARTYDUDE 8000 from overuse, I have a major announcement:
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Peace out, Mon, to Jamaica.
Of course I will continue recording and mass marketing my upcoming hip hop release Wrecks N Effect, so don’t run into the bathroom crying just yet
I’ve been rehearsing in the penthouse all week and am getting dread lock extensions this afternoon. I’m also trying to smoke more weed but my lips are getting chapped and I just ran out of Tiger Balm.
So let me run and take a watery dump and then I’ll hit you back with some sweet new Rasta Ganja lyrics
PRAISE BE TO BROTHER BOB MARLEY
February 24th, 2012 at 11:33 am
As opposed to these derelicts & nutjob’s here in Cali.
smh
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DKnight007 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Florida is a terrible state to live in. Bunch of weirdos living down there from what I understand.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Florida! My girlfriends family lives in Orlando, you can buy a mansion for 275K that would be $1.5 in CA.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I was thinking about that, but do they still offer home insurance there?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Happy Friday Fellas,
Regarding McFadden…and durability.
Suited up in 45 of 64 NFL games.
08…..13 gms
09…..12 gms
10…..13 gms
11…..07 gms
The aberration is 2011.
McFadden was utilized properly in 2010 and stayed Healthy.
We all know how He performed.
In 2011 He was on pace to better 2010 and went down.
McFadden has been suited up for 70% of the games in His career.
47% of the games he has missed during His career took place last year.
Why should we believe 2011 is the standard, when His history actually demonstrate otherwise?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:37 am
There are nut jobs everywhere….buwhahahahaah!
February 24th, 2012 at 11:38 am
DKnight007 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Florida is a terrible state to live in. Bunch of weirdos living down there from what I understand.
Only thing good about it, is no state income tax.
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I agree! Florida got to be the perv capital of the US. Seriously fggd up folks over here. I’m stuck, wish I knew better. Been to Texas many times, never liked what I see. It’s a carbon copy of California but with even meaner people. sorry
February 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am
SistaBrownStains,
Don’t talk to me about nutjobs.
Your one of those nutjobs who thinks the Warriors have been a better team than the Lakers for the past 10 years. haha
February 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Yeah, Califas is f’d up too mayne.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Too close to home huh ?
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DKnight007 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am
SistaBrownStains,
Don’t talk to me about nutjobs.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Question is, in a WCO (if that is what the Raides will run), how important is it to have two running backs ala DMAC and Bush?
I would think it’s more important to have one good back, and a solid TE, and a 3rd down scat-back like Taiwan Jones (in the mold of Charlie Garner).
I just don’t see importance of retaining Bush when we should be talking about Boss or Meyers stepping up their game.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Link of my post stating that or are you just spewing more lies?
Rhetorical question…
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DKnight007 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Your one of those nutjobs who thinks the Warriors have been a better team than the Lakers for the past 10 years. haha
February 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
I heard good things about Alabama, but I never been there myself.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Lin proved he can play in this league and play well.
I get a kick out Warrior fans who are now rooting for Lin to fail….when he won’t.
The W’s screwed up by not properly evaluating him and letting him go prematurely and that lost asset cost them a shot at improving the team by either trading Ellis, Lin or Curry and bringing in a versatile big small forward or legit Center.
The W’s screwed up….AGAIN when it came to Lin.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Florida! My girlfriends family lives in Orlando, you can buy a mansion for 275K that would be $1.5 in CA.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I was thinking about that, but do they still offer home insurance there?
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Yeah, problem is that the rates have jumped in the last few years (Hurricanes). That is the major complaint from her family.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am
291.Raider O Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
I heard good things about Alabama, but I never been there myself.
^^^^^^^^
Only good things about Bama, is that the real estate is dirt cheap….otherwise, living in the South full time is not recommended or advised.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am
On the contrary, in a WCO, look at the ones that are successful, they all need a 2 back RBBC. We need to find a replacement for Bush, and we can’t count on DMC to be healthy for 16 games neither.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Didn’t Lin go 1 for 11 last night in getting thrashed by the Heat?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Oh and commit 8 turnovers?
February 24th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Yeah, problem is that the rates have jumped in the last few years (Hurricanes). That is the major complaint from her family.
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nah, bad info. the real buggaboo is the sink hole coverage.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am
296.bcz24 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Didn’t Lin go 1 for 11 last night in getting thrashed by the Heat?
^^^^^^^^
One bad game….doesn’t take away what he has accomplished so far.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I also like Texas. I love their gun laws. You can carry, large capacity mags, fully automatic assault rifles, etc…
February 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Lin was good enough to beat the Lakers, but not the Heat!
February 24th, 2012 at 11:48 am
DKnight007 Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am
291.Raider O Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
I heard good things about Alabama, but I never been there myself.
^^^^^^^^
Only good things about Bama, is that the real estate is dirt cheap….otherwise, living in the South full time is not recommended or advised.
^^^^^^^
if you visit, you may think you want to escape ASAP. But if you lived there (I lived there 6 yrs) the place grows on you. you kinda start being like the local rednicks. it’s all cool.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Only good things about Bama, is that the real estate is dirt cheap….otherwise, living in the South full time is not recommended or advised.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I love southern food.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am
post 177, DMAC is a back up period.
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Holy Crap! This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. 31 teams in the NFL wish they had DMC based on production when he’s healthy alone, period.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
if the knicks want to win, they better sit lin and start barron davis
lin had his 15 minutes its over
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Can’t agree with ya there my dude. Though I was raised in KY; I’m actually a life-long Knick fan, and seeing what Lin brings to the table (which isn’t amazing, but works for us) and his savvy-ness off the pick and roll which is perfect with Antoni’s (No D) system; I like his chances a lot more than I like Baron’s. Now, was Baron better in his hey-day? By far. But today’s a new day. I live in SoCal now and have for the past half decade so I’ve seen the Baron the Clipps got from the W’s. He isn’t the same guy. He either doesn’t want to play the right way and isn’t fully engaged, or he wants to play the right way but his body won’t let him. Baron will be cool off the bench, and anything he gives the Knicks is a bonus 4real4real.
The best thing for Baron to do now is share stories with fellow old head broke-down body buddy Mike Bibby on the bench on how the Pac-10 used to be a decent basketball conference. No, the Knicks aren’t going to win the East with Lin, but they wouldn’t with Baron either. That has a lot to do with Antoni (No D) coaching, and all the possessions they take off on defense, but that’s a different story. Lin will get ‘em out the first round this year and Knick fans need to be content with that with our recent history. Miami makes a lot of guards look horrible; not just Lin. Baron was 0 for 8 last night too….
February 24th, 2012 at 11:54 am
how did Jason Campbell go from Mercedes Lindsay to Jenny Montes?
yuck!
who is he gonna date when he goes to Cleveland next year?
Vanessa Bayer ???
Yvette Nicole Brown ???
February 24th, 2012 at 11:55 am
new post
February 24th, 2012 at 11:55 am
O,
There is always New Mexico!!!!!
Got a brand new, 2900 square foot home, in the nice “newer” part of town.
215K
February 24th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Craig
Ricky Waters
Greene in Green Bay
Cadillac Williams in Tampa.
Kaufaman and Wheatley is the only dou I can remember…
Seeing a whole lot solo players on that list without memorable backups.
Bush walks and BigMac drafts Darnell Scott to fill the void.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:57 am
What if bush signs with Diego or Denver?
February 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Yeah, problem is that the rates have jumped in the last few years (Hurricanes). That is the major complaint from her family.
******
nah, bad info. the real buggaboo is the sink hole coverage.
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WRONG!
http://www.insurance-website.com/Content/2011/01/12/report-55-percent-rate-hike-possible-for-some-florida-homeowners/
February 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Dennis Allen says DL and LB will be priorities this offseason. #Raiders
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Yeah, no schit, and everybody on here is obsessed with DMAC and Bush, forgetting that this is a pretty good dilemma for any team to have.
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