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Mark Davis talks change

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, February 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders owner Mark Davis, accepting the Tank Younger Award on behalf of his late father Friday night, talked to the NFL Network about organizational change.

Under his father, the Raiders have been referred to as a “mom and pop” organization in a league that has become corporate. Without being specific, Davis said the Raiders are going to be more modern.

“The business part really wasn’t there. It was all football. Just win,” Davis said. “Over the years, it just grew and grew and grew, and I think the size of the league and the size of the organization and the different things you had to deal with, media and all those things, kind of dwarfed the capabilities of the organization. Instead of a clean start with the organization, there’s been a lot of plugging holes.”

Davis has entrusted the football side of the operation to Reggie McKenzie, saying, “I have the utmost confidence he can do it.”

The Tank Younger Award is presented on behalf of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, which promotes diversity in all areas of a football organization.

“He wouldn’t have accepted this award because he hired great people for jobs, and that’s just how he felt,” Davis said. “He wasn’t doing it for awards. That’s the truth.”

Both McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen have talked about how the Raiders intend to scout and identify players, getting away from the height-weight-speed prototype that Al Davis favored and putting a heavier emphasis on film study and football skill.

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319 Responses to “Mark Davis talks change”

  1. toec Says:

    1st o_O

  2. kvnbntly Says:

    alright gave yall a chance
    ducie

  3. RaiderDebo Says:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/36505/only-way-to-fix-cowboys-leadership-issue
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Great article. I don’t want to hear another thing about “leadership” or “fire”. We need to get some players in here.

  4. MikieG Says:

    Gonna be an interesting season that is for sure..I predict a 5-11 or 11-5 season LOL! This thing could go either way on us…Either we will be totally dominant, or we will be dominated..I think things are going to be real tough for us this year because our Schedule is essentially BRUTAL outside our Division..If we win our division, We will be able to have a home playoff game which will be huge..Were gonna have our hands full this year. I think its another 9-7 or 10-6 team that takes this division..
    In Palmer we Trust.

  5. Dhidee99 Says:

    Long live Mark Davis!!!

  6. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Al Davis was a great man! Period!

    Other than the coaching turnover/chaos…there was no questioning his will to win and he proved it by spending that money.

    The check cashers took advantage of this trust….taking the money of an elite player and then laying down and not making a play game after game after game after game.

    Clean house Reggie. Those losers on defense have to go and go now!

  7. da trinity Says:

    Good morning turds, j/k.
    Mark changing franchise from the inside out. Been long time over due

  8. da trinity Says:

    @ 6
    True but the old man left the team in bad shape financially when he died.
    It’s about time we operate like a real team

  9. StraightRaider Says:

    I say we trade McFadden to the Rams for the #2 pick and select RG3 as or future QB..

  10. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Am I up early or did I sleep late…….a bachelors life!

  11. RaiderDuck Says:

    StraightRaider Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am

    I say we trade McFadden to the Rams for the #2 pick and select RG3 as or future QB..

    =========================================

    The Rams would want a LOT more than McFadden, and they’re going to get a lot more, value-wise. Think of the deal SD gave AZ for the right to take Ryan Leaf: 2 #1 picks, a #2, and Eric Metcalf (rough equivalent to Taiwan Jones).

  12. MistaBrown Says:

    I like what Mark has done since he has been thrust into his role. How this all works out I have no idea but he hasn’t done anything stupid as of yet. He seems intent on keeping the identity of the organization while moving into modern times. We are lucky that the team wasn’t sold to some wealthy schmuck that turned things into something we wouldn’t recognize or like.

    Do your thing Mark and cut Seymour!
    :)

  13. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    StraightRaider Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
    I say we trade McFadden to the Rams for the #2 pick and select RG3 as or future QB..

    Take that in a heart beat…. Also would buy a brand new Jag for $50 dollars as well… I have some great pristine lowlands I want to show you in Florida.

  14. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    MistaBrown

    Why would we cut a guy we just gave 15 million to whether he plays or not? Guys drink some coffee

  15. MistaBrown Says:

    Simply because Seymour is no longer a force. If he wants to take a pay cut I wouldn’t mind seeing him in the rotation but not as a starter.

  16. RaiderDuck Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Do your thing Mark and cut Seymour!
    :)

    =======================================

    Reggie is the one who would cut Seymour, not Mark.

  17. MistaBrown Says:

    I realize that however Mark signs Reggie’s paycheck and he can tell reggie when to jump and how high. This thread is about Mark not Reggie so I threw it at Mark, ok?
    _____

    RaiderDuck Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Reggie is the one who would cut Seymour, not Mark.

  18. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Duck

    He is still thinking the AD way… Needs some transition time.

  19. uglyorc Says:

    Al Davis was a great man! Period!

    Other than the coaching turnover/chaos…there was no questioning his will to win and he proved it by spending that money.

    The check cashers took advantage of this trust….taking the money of an elite player and then laying down and not making a play game after game after game after game.

    Clean house Reggie. Those losers on defense have to go and go now!
    —————————–

    Its like when the kids are being babysitted by Grandpa. The kids get away with a lot more because Grandpa just cant keep up as well. That’s what happened to Al Davis. He was great at what he did. As he got older and older, he just couldnt keep up. He had to rely more and more on other people and just couldnt find the right coaches after Chucky.

    Hopefully Mark found the right GM and hopefully Reggie found the right HC. Because if we start acting coorporate and lose anyways it will really suck.

  20. MistaBrown Says:

    I give Mark props and all you dweebs want to talk about is a guy that has given us nothing for 3 years except penalties & meltdowns….R Seymour.

    Idiots

  21. RaiderDuck Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I give Mark props and all you dweebs want to talk about is a guy that has given us nothing for 3 years except penalties & meltdowns….R Seymour.

    Idiots

    ============================================

    You realize YOU’RE the one who even brought up #92 in the first.

  22. RaiderDuck Says:

    *first PLACE, that is.

  23. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Great to hear Mark!!

    Part of the evolution into a modern franchise, is finding a new stadium.

    That joint, as much as we all love it, was outdated when we moved back to Oakland, almost 20 years ago.

  24. RaiderDuck Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Great to hear Mark!!

    Part of the evolution into a modern franchise, is finding a new stadium.

    That joint, as much as we all love it, was outdated when we moved back to Oakland, almost 20 years ago.

    =============================================

    Hopefully, we can get a new one in Oakland, or at least a complete stadium rebuild like the Bears got.

    If not, there’s always those two locations in LA…

  25. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:38 am

    I realize that however Mark signs Reggie’s paycheck and he can tell reggie when to jump and how high.
    ================================================

    I would guess not more than an inch and a half tops.

  26. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hopefully, we can get a new one in Oakland, or at least a complete stadium rebuild like the Bears got.

    *************************

    The location is ideal, the current stadium is not.

    I liked what they did in Chicago for the White Sox, which is build the new stadium at the other end of the parking lot and play in the old one until it is finished.

    Than tear it down when the new joint is finished.

    Would probably mess up some parking and tailgating for a year or two, but there is always going to be some type of collateral damage.

  27. No Lo Says:

    Re post 4.
    I agree with your take. It will be feast or famine this season. Everything falls into place(no injuries, McFadden breaks out for the whole season, WRs progress, Allen fixes the D and the penalties) or it will be rebuilding city. I’d say 10-6 or 5-11.

  28. Just Fire Baby Says:

    There is no rebuilding here.

    We have a veteran QB, WR’s in their 2nd and 3rd years with the team, veteran RB’s, and an O-line with parts that have been together for years.

    Yes, the D will be a work in progress, but really, how can a work in progress by any worse than last year?

    In reality, we could still have a fairly crappy defense in 2012, and still have that be a significant upgrade from the steaming hot turd that was the 2011 Oakland Raiders defense.

  29. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Coaching staff is going to be a major upgrade.

    I believe the H/C will be a massive upgrade, D/C a massive upgrade, and I think Hue was a pretty good O/C and Knapp will have his hands full being an upgrade, but basically we had a HC/OC last year, and now we have two bodies to fill that one spot.

    Two minds usually are better than 1.

  30. jesusraiderjim Says:

    That joint, as much as we all love it, was outdated when we moved back to Oakland, almost 20 years ago.

    ——————————————————
    I was born in Oak town I never knew joints were outdated. I knew bongs were cool but I thought joints would never go out of style. Go Raiders Go Mark Davis Chico bong loads!

  31. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL….. Go Chico State bong loads!!!

    Never been prouder to be alumnus

  32. RaiderDuck Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Coaching staff is going to be a major upgrade.

    I believe the H/C will be a massive upgrade, D/C a massive upgrade, and I think Hue was a pretty good O/C and Knapp will have his hands full being an upgrade, but basically we had a HC/OC last year, and now we have two bodies to fill that one spot.

    Two minds usually are better than 1.

    ========================================

    The only coach changes I’d worry about are Hue/Saunders to Knapp/Saunders, Wylie to Pollack and Fassel to Hoffman. Everything else looks like moderate to major upgrades.

  33. da trinity Says:

    Seymore said he was willing to restructure contract. FYI

  34. RaiderDuck Says:

    The two biggest coaching upgrades are Hue to Allen and (especially) Bres to Tarver.

  35. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only coach changes I’d worry about are Hue/Saunders to Knapp/Saunders

    ************************

    Remember, that last year, as a HC/OC combo, we had only Hue and Saunders.

    This year we got an extra body. We got Allen, Knapp and Saunders.

    I think that will help bridge that potential gap a little.

  36. Chris in NY Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    There is no rebuilding here.

    We have a veteran QB, WR’s in their 2nd and 3rd years with the team, veteran RB’s, and an O-line with parts that have been together for years.

    Yes, the D will be a work in progress, but really, how can a work in progress by any worse than last year?

    In reality, we could still have a fairly crappy defense in 2012, and still have that be a significant upgrade from the steaming hot turd that was the 2011 Oakland Raiders defense.

    ——————————–

    Absolutely. The time is now. Loads of talent on this roster. Enough to win a championship this season, health and coaching permitting.

    The offense is loaded.

    The special teams are loaded.

    And I think the talent on defense is far, far superior to the results achieved last season. There are a few spots that need to be filled, but I think a modern scheme and a better DC can instantly turn that unit from bottom 4 to say top 12.

    The wild cards are how much will Reggie look to blow up the roster for the sake of getting his guys. And will the combination of rookie owner, rookie GM, rookie HC and rookie DC and the massive amount of turnover set this team back. Or will those guys who are all basically unknown be up to the job.

  37. jesusraiderjim Says:

    February 25th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Seymore said he was willing to restructure contract. FYI
    ——————————————————–
    I don’t see it hasppening. We would be on the hook for a couple more years and more money for a vet that has done very little for us. I do not know how a guy that melts down and commits stupid penalties, and basically under performs can be a “leader” in the locker room. Makes 0 sense

  38. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Also, just the perception that this a “new” organization, and our GM and HC are all about holding players accountable, will help the penalty situation.

    Hell, we could still be, say, the 3rd worst team in penalties next year, and have that shave off 2-3 penalties and 25 or so yards PER GAME.

    That will help out massively.

  39. da trinity Says:

    @28
    Rightly said brother

  40. jesusraiderjim Says:

    JFB
    That is a true statement. I can’t wait to see the first guy f..k up and get his arse yanked out of the game. It will be epic. These guys need to suck it up and have some pride.

  41. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The wild cards are how much will Reggie look to blow up the roster for the sake of getting his guys. And will the combination of rookie owner, rookie GM, rookie HC and rookie DC and the massive amount of turnover set this team back. Or will those guys who are all basically unknown be up to the job.

    ****************************

    Granted a lot of new faces, and “greenness” amongst these guys.

    However, Reggie isn’t “blowing” things up to get his guys. Who are his guys? He never worked with Allen, Tarver, Saunders or Knapp before.

    Also, no matter how “green” some of these guys are, they aren’t taking over for some Super Bowl led, Vince Lombardi coached team. They are replacing a .500 team that had maybe the worst combination of HC, DC and GM the NFL has ever seen.

  42. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Just watched the end of “Lombardi” on HBO. Great show. Great man who got the most out of his personell. In the end he regretted not telling his men more. I recommend watching it.

  43. jesusraiderjim Says:

    I think our biggest obstacle next year is our strength of schedule. Reg and Allen will fix the problems and put a fighter on the field we just need to play smart football and have a few things go our way. We need to be the team that other teams fear with the clock winding down at the end of the half. You know, like the Raiders used to be!!!Jano will set the NFL record for longest this year. Write it!70 yds

  44. ohioraider Says:

    And I think the talent on defense is far, far superior to the results achieved last season. There are a few spots that need to be filled, but I think a modern scheme and a better DC can instantly turn that unit from bottom 4 to say top 12.
    ———————————–
    This is wildly optimistic. Defense needs to be rebuilt and I think that’s exactly what they intend. Week corners, weak linebackers, and DL weak against the run. I don’t know how you come to your conclusion other than wishful thinking.

  45. ohioraider Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    I think our biggest obstacle next year is our strength of schedule. Reg and Allen will fix the problems and put a fighter on the field we just need to play smart football and have a few things go our way. We need to be the team that other teams fear with the clock winding down at the end of the half. You know, like the Raiders used to be!!!Jano will set the NFL record for longest this year. Write it!70 yds
    ————————————
    Our biggest obstacle, by far, is the defense.

  46. RaiderDuck Says:

    One thing that’s really surprised me is Reggie’s lack of cronyism so far.

    A bunch of us expected to have Moss at HC, Clements at OC, and Trgovac or Perry at DC.

    Instead, only Moss and Whitt even got interviews and neither was hired.

  47. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Schedules are typically not as easy or as hard as we think in the offseason.

    Basically we are replacing the Packers, Lions, Bears and Vikings, with the Saints, Falcons, Panthers and Bucs. Seems like a wash, or hell, maybe even a tad easier.

    Replacing the Jets, Pats, Bills and Fins, with the Bengals, Browns, Ravens and Steelers. Again, a wash I would imagine, maybe a tad harder.

    If we can improve our division record from 3-3, to 4-2 or even 5-1, that will give us some wiggle room with the rest of the schedule.

  48. RaiderDuck Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am

    Just watched the end of “Lombardi” on HBO. Great show. Great man who got the most out of his personell. In the end he regretted not telling his men more. I recommend watching it.

    ===================================

    It was shocking how fast the Packers fell apart when he left. OTOH, George Allen was able to build on his success in Washington.

  49. jesusraiderjim Says:

    #46
    I agree and I think with both Reg and Allen being D minded guys they are going to be of the mind set that they can have a GREAT defense. Pride,and poise Allen is going to get the most out of who he puts on the field. I can’t wait til the season starts.

  50. oldschoolraider Says:

    I don’t expect the Raiders to set the division on fire anytime soon, and that’s ok. The kinds of problems the Raider organization had don’t get fixed overnight.
    For the time being I’ll be happy to see changes being made. Every step in the right direction is a big step.
    Gotta bring the Raiders into the 21st century

  51. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Division record is definitely the key to all of it. One more division win last year would have made a huge difference.

  52. da trinity Says:

    @37
    U do realize that Seymore restructuring is a good thing right? It means he is willing to take less this year to help the team get under the cap and possibly get some solid free agents. He is already getting 15 million this year, why not spread it out. We can do a lot worse then him folks. He may not ne the player he once was but he can be darn right dominant at times. His penalties can be fixed I believe. He didn’t have that problem in New England. I think being on a sorry defense is enough to make any player more aggressive and edgy.

  53. RaiderDuck Says:

    A big reason Allen’s keeping Seymour around (IMHO) is Seymour’s work ethic and experience playing for Belichick. DA’s planning on working the players like dogs during camp with strict discipline, which will be old hat to #92. If the impressionable young newbies see Seymour busting his backside everyday, they won’t have much choice but to go along with it.

  54. RaiderRetribution Says:

    We can’t cut Richard now, past due, he is guaranteed fifteen million now , at the trade deadline though we will probably get a mid round draft choice for him from a super bowl contender

  55. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Any of yall watching the Combine?? Ladarius Green having a pretty good workout and had a pretty productive college career…I know we dont need a tight end but this guy is gonna be succesful.

  56. BewareofRaiders Says:

    Damn if only we had a first round pick hell even a second or third would be nice

  57. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Not much interest in the draft for me this year. Raiders 2012 draft picks are already on the team!

    Palmer
    Barksdale
    Van Dyke
    Pryor
    Curry

    HOpe this works….rarely are teams successful trading away draft picks for a veteran with no playoff wins, a 1st round bust and 3 mid-tier players.

    The coaches will have to get the most improvement out of the guys on offense and find some UFAs and free agents with hustle to replace the lack of hustle, discipline and smarts on defense

  58. djohnnyg Says:

    I hope Seymour has some semblence of pride left after “his” defense was humiliated and his manhood called into question after what Detroit, Buffalo and SD did to them.

    With the season on the line against SD. he and his pathetic cohorts could not man up and say “No you don’t. You are not going to just do whatever the heck you want to us and run it down our throats. This is our house and our division and we have some pride”.

    Nope. Seymour and the rest of those losers just bent over and took it.

  59. J Hill Says:

    JFB,

    Shot a fat arsse 94 today.

    I don’t think you’ll have anything to worry about.

  60. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Djohmnyg,

    And let’s not forget the defense did all it could to lose that Chicago game in the 4th too.

    I am tired of hearing excuses for the defense. Better off cleaning house and starting over.

    Just a lack of will to win. Get burned once…sure it happens…but to get burned week after week means a lack of talent and players getting beat.

    You could cut the cost of the defense 60% and not miss a beat.

    Clean this house Reggie

  61. djohnnyg Says:

    #60,

    Yes Chicago and Caleb freaking Hanie no less.

    I haven’t forgotten about that, OR Minnesota, Cleveland, or Houston either.

    ALL OF THOSE came down to the wire when it shouldn’t have even been close.

    The Raiders have ALWAYS given up the obligatory 4th quarter TD to make it close.

    It’s like they just concede it.

    Oh, the KC game at Arrowhead too.

  62. LBRAIDERS Says:

    Seymour n Palmer will be restructuring whoever thinks were trading mcfadden you’re crazy!!

  63. Sullivan44 Says:

    Basically, your new Raiders may not win right away, but we won’t see a 7 year drought with 11 or more losses per season again.

  64. Sullivan44 Says:

    Both McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen have talked about how the Raiders intend to scout and identify players, getting away from the height-weight-speed prototype that Al Davis favored and putting a heavier emphasis on film study and football skill.

    ………..

    I now have a hard on.

  65. Twocents Says:

    J Hill, If you are slicing your shots, I have a drill that may help.

  66. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    boring…..

  67. da trinity Says:

    Sully back?

  68. Sullivan44 Says:

    Whether or not Allen’s an improvement over Jackson will be determined when Allen wins his ninth game.

  69. DKnight007 Says:

    “Both McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen have talked about how the Raiders intend to scout and identify players, getting away from the height-weight-speed prototype that Al Davis favored and putting a heavier emphasis on film study and football skill.”

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Now this is what I like to hear!

    Drafting in the 3rd-6th middle rounds might actually be a blessing in disguise for McK and Allen.

  70. Sullivan44 Says:

    I don’t see a lot of people mourning the termination of John Herrera. I thought he was pivotal to those winning years. Thought he was the point man. You’d think there’d be a little more grieving. People care about as much as they would if a stadium janitor were fired.

  71. Sullivan44 Says:

    DKnight, that is real change. No more combine stats being top priority. Raiders management now scouting based on how players actually play the game.

  72. DKnight007 Says:

    # Twocents Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    J Hill, If you are slicing your shots, I have a drill that may help.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Make sure you keep club face closed when your swinging through the ball….keep your head on the back of the ball all the way through the swing and slow down your back swing and don’t try and kill the ball.

    Nice and easy…all the way through the ball.

  73. RaiderDuck Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    I don’t see a lot of people mourning the termination of John Herrera. I thought he was pivotal to those winning years. Thought he was the point man. You’d think there’d be a little more grieving. People care about as much as they would if a stadium janitor were fired.

    ===========================================

    The only positive thing Herrera ever did was make that awesome deal with Irwindale that netted Al $10 Million.

  74. Sullivan44 Says:

    The economy can’t be that bad if people are still golfing. Ironically enough, many of these people who say the president ruined the country are the same people out there at the country clubs in their slacks and polo shirts. Just putting away their misery. “noooobody knows…..”

  75. Sullivan44 Says:

    Herrera didn’t make any deal with Irwindale.

  76. Twocents Says:

    My instructor had me stand with my feet together and take half swings until I could consistenly draw the ball. I helped immensely.

  77. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hey twocents, you can still afford to golf? 0bama must have really ruined the economy? I mean, you’re golfing. It’s not a cheap hobby.

  78. Raider O Says:

    Who let the Monkey out of the cage?!

  79. Sullivan44 Says:

    twocents, aren’t you glad comrade 0bama left you with enough money to go golfing? I thought he took everything from you?

  80. Sullivan44 Says:

    Reminds me of Dale on King of the Hill. When he leaves the message on Hank’s answering machine threatening to kill Peggy for teaching kids about abortion or whatever, then he tells Hank they have a Sunday tee time. That’s twocents. 0bama ruined America. But we’re golfing this afternoon at 3!!! lmao.

  81. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I was sad to see that Herrera left the organization, Jerry wrote a column on him with around 100+ comments wishing Herrera well.

    Without any type of doubt, there were more comments in here speaking highly of John and wishing him well, than there were for Hue Jackson.

    Without a doubt.

  82. Sullivan44 Says:

    The great Kenyan black panther warlord 0bama can’t be all that bad. He rationed two cents enough money to go golfing!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

  83. RaiderDuck Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Herrera didn’t make any deal with Irwindale.

    ========================================

    http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/59860477.html?dids=59860477:59860477&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=May+11%2C+1988&author=Scott+Ostler&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+%28pre-1997+Fulltext%29&desc=Raiders+Quietly+Have+Put+Down+Roots+in+the+Gravel+of+Irwindale&pqatl=google

    “That (deal with MCA) really has no affect on us at all,” said John Herrera, a Raider senior executive and commander of the Irwindale outpost. “We maintain that when we are legally free to leave the Coliseum, we will do so, that there is no valid reason for the (Irwindale) stadium not being built. We’ve worked too hard, won too many battles, made too much progress, not to go forward.”

  84. Sullivan44 Says:

    I haven’t heard one person yet say the Raiders will suffer football-wise with Herrera’s termination.

  85. DKnight007 Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    The economy can’t be that bad if people are still golfing. Ironically enough, many of these people who say the president ruined the country are the same people out there at the country clubs in their slacks and polo shirts. Just putting away their misery. “noooobody knows…..”

    ^^^^^^^^
    Actually from what I understand, certain courses have had to lower prices the last year. Not as many people have been playing as much apparently.

    I played at a course that will be closing soon in Valley Springs called Trinitas. Owners developed the course without using the proper permits. It’s too bad….not a bad course either.

  86. Raider O Says:

    Herrera is a Raider, and will always be a Raider.
    Get over it.

  87. Sullivan44 Says:

    Herrera was a team spokesperson, Duck, and an embarrassing one at that. He had nothing to do with the Irwindale deal. LOL. Herrera didn’t broker stadium deals. He got coffee.

  88. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We are all just trying to keep up with Obummer, who has golfed over 90 days since he has been in the white house, easily the most of any US president since Woodrow Wilson.

    Look it up, it is a fact.

  89. RaiderDuck Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    I haven’t heard one person yet say the Raiders will suffer football-wise with Herrera’s termination.

    =========================================

    Because they won’t.

  90. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, when you kill Bin Laden, you’ve earned a little bit of golf time. I don’t know what to tell you.

  91. RaiderDuck Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    We are all just trying to keep up with Obummer, who has golfed over 90 days since he has been in the white house, easily the most of any US president since Woodrow Wilson.

    Look it up, it is a fact.

    =============================================

    He’s still an improvement over the last guy…

  92. Raider O Says:

    He plays Golf and BBall. Athletic dude.

  93. Sullivan44 Says:

    Agreed, Duck. 0bama is an improvement over the last guy. And he’s far better than any candidate the GOP has this year.

  94. lefty12 Says:

    DK007-where did you hear that about Trinitas?

  95. Sullivan44 Says:

    He cleaned up Bush’s Iraqi mess while trying to clean up Bush’s economic mess…and toe tagged Bin Laden in the process. Easiest reelection ever. Romney? lol.

  96. Raider O Says:

    He’s still an improvement over the last guy…
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    A monkey is an improvement over the last guy!

  97. Raider O Says:

    Iraq is still a mess, and we may have a new problem/ mess after Israel bombs Iran.

  98. DKnight007 Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    DK007-where did you hear that about Trinitas?

    ^^^^^^^^
    My dad and brother. My parents live in Valley Springs and La Contenta and Trinitas are my dads and his retirement buddies home courses.

    Then I looked up what the deal was online and it seems the owners were appealing a bunch of stuff, and some sort of resolution was supposed to happen on the 21st on whether or not people can still play golf until a decision is made. Im gonna look it up and see if folks can still play golf or not.

    Supposedly the owners owe the banks and some investors close to 3 million. Yikes.

    They also produce olive oil on that land, since they’re a crap load of olive trees around the golf course.

  99. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Iraq is still a mess, and we may have a new problem/ mess after Israel bombs Iran.

    =======================================

    The current President can hardly be blamed for Iraq. As for Israel and Iran, why should we even care? Meddling in disputes halfway around the world does not help us.

  100. Raider O Says:

    The current President can hardly be blamed for Iraq. As for Israel and Iran, why should we even care? Meddling in disputes halfway around the world does not help us
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You do realize our economy is based on oil, Iran is one of the largest oil producing/ distributing countries, and Israel bombing Iran will hurt our economy and relations with that area. That will create more problems for us.

    Get out of your bubble.

  101. lefty12 Says:

    DK007-thanks.I just looked it up myself.It seems they got a stay but things don’t look too good.Been putting off playing there,might have to rethink that.Supposed to be a nice course.

  102. Marley Bob Says:

    Have to say I’m impressed by Mark Davis, he says the right thing every time, seems like his own man already but always respectful about old Al.

  103. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    You do realize our economy is based on oil, Iran is one of the largest oil producing/ distributing countries, and Israel bombing Iran will hurt our economy and relations with that area. That will create more problems for us.

    Get out of your bubble.

    ========================================

    Well, if Romney, Santorum or Newt gets elected, we’ll have an Iranian war. Thought Iraq was bad? This will be 10 times worse.

  104. da trinity Says:

    I respect the president because he is in charge of our country, but I do not agree with how he is running this country. I didn’t vote for him nor will I vote for him in the upcoming election. He is running up debt just like bush but he gets a pass? I could go on with more of his errors but libtards and demacraps seem to be to blind to see any truth.
    I’m out

  105. Just Win Baby Says:

    I think we are just waiting for Iran to nuke Israel so we can swoop in, smear Iraq off the map, save the day and control their govt/oil. Just my take for what it’s worth.

  106. Raider O Says:

    Well, if Romney, Santorum or Newt gets elected, we’ll have an Iranian war. Thought Iraq was bad? This will be 10 times worse.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I agree. I hope we calm things down in that area. We should have some influence over Israel. We give them a lot of money/ military equipment/ etc in the form of aid.

  107. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Israel will smash on Iran if they need to.

    We will not get involved outside of assisting Israel.

  108. Raider O Says:

    I think we are just waiting for Iran to nuke Israel so we can swoop in, smear Iraq off the map, save the day and control their govt/oil. Just my take for what it’s worth.
    $$$$$$$$

    You can’t save the day after Israel gets Nuked by Iran.

  109. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It is going to be Romney and Rubio, and they will either win or barely lose.

    It is going to come down to like 6 states (Ohio, New Mexico, Nevada, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan)

  110. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Iran won’t even get off the ground.

    The Israel air force is the second best and one of the most heavily funded in the world, and if things get crazy, I am sure we will loan them as many SR blackbird’s as they need.

    Meanwhile, Iran will be trying to take off in some single jet, 1980 Russian thing.

  111. Raider O Says:

    We will not get involved outside of assisting Israel.
    $$$$$$$$
    Some people never learn. Let’s keep effing with those Muslims over there, and they will keep effing with us.

    Genius!!

  112. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Some people never learn.

    **********************

    Yup, those stupid rock-throwers just don’t get their place in the world.

  113. Raider O Says:

    You do realize a lot of Muslims/ Arabs live in Israel, so if Israel bombs Iran this time will be different than what they did in Iraq a few decades ago.
    Muslims will not tolerate any more carp from us or Israel. We should know!

  114. Raider O Says:

    Yup, those stupid rock-throwers just don’t get their place in the world.
    $$$$$$$$

    You do remember 9/11? Leave these people alone. We have enough problems.

  115. Just Fire Baby Says:

    They may not tolerate it, but they can’t really do much about it.

    20% of Israel is Arab (according to Wiki). They get out of pocket, they will be handled as well.

  116. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You do remember 9/11? Leave these people alone.

    **************************

    Fck that.

    They wrote the check, now they have to cash it.

  117. Raider O Says:

    **********************

    Yup, those stupid rock-throwers just don’t get their place in the world.
    $$$$$$$$$$

    Those stupid rock throwers and their friends managed to bomb us and disturb our freedom and life style.

  118. DKnight007 Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    DK007-thanks.I just looked it up myself.It seems they got a stay but things don’t look too good.Been putting off playing there,might have to rethink that.Supposed to be a nice course.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah, its not a bad course for where it is located. It’s too bad though, if the owners lose it which they probably will. However, I think Calaveras County can’t wait to kick the owners out and take over that land.

    I think whoever takes it over, will keep the course and probably try and make improvements.

    You have to play target golf there.

    I started off fast on the front 9 and then I got caught in some sand traps in the back nine and I hurt my game.

  119. Raider O Says:

    They wrote the check, now they have to cash it.
    $$$$$$$$$

    The same could be said about us.

  120. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My brother is on the USS Abraham Lincoln as we speak, on the way home from flexing a little muscle over there.

    And of course, Iran started with the threats once they left.

  121. Raider O Says:

    20% of Israel is Arab (according to Wiki). They get out of pocket, they will be handled as well.
    $$$$$$$$$

    LMAO

    Get educated about the subject then we can talk about it some more.
    You obviously don’t know what you are talking about.

    A lot of Arabs are considered Israeli. Only Arabs in the west bank are considered Arabs and not Israeli

  122. DKnight007 Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    They wrote the check, now they have to cash it.
    $$$$$$$$$

    The same could be said about us.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Exactly.

    People seem to forget, the Bush family was in bed with the Saudis for years.

  123. Raider O Says:

    My cousin is a green Beret. I rather have my cousin safe at home (protecting us) than fighting someone else’s war.

  124. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I want my brother to continue to fulfill his duties, serving the Commander in Chief.

    It’s not like W sent him over there a few weeks ago.

  125. Raider O Says:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Exactly.

    People seem to forget, the Bush family was in bed with the Saudis for years.
    $$$$$$

    Who helped Sadam, Mubarak, and the rest of those schmucks get power? Wasn’t Iraq our ally against Iran?

  126. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    Dude, you are miss informed brother, so I don’t blame you for the things you say.
    Remember: I’m thinking of us first, and not trying to protect Arabs/ Muslims. I’m not from Iran.

  127. Kirk Says:

    “Flim study”

    What a concept!!!

  128. Raider O Says:

    DK,

    Most of the people responsible for 9/11 and other bombings were from Saudi, so how come we never took actions against them?
    Crazy!!!!

  129. Sullivan44 Says:

    Trinity, the Iraq war bankrupted the country. And Bush owns that war. Bush, Republicans, and the overall American right wing mindset. You OWN that war, and that war has ruined our economy. So sit there in the sticks and blame 0bama all you want, for “running up a deficit”. LOL. Don’t make me laugh. History will have the last word. And in 100 years school students will be laughing at people like you that exist today.

  130. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t doubt that I am not fully informed. Never said I was up to speed historically on all that goes on there.

    I just know, they don’t like me, so I don’t like them.

    I am from the school of “step on my toes, and I will stomp on your feet” mentality.

    And I come from a military, gun-toting, police officer type family. Not afraid to paint with a broad brush if on the whole, it helps the community and/or country.

  131. Raider O Says:

    I want my brother to continue to fulfill his duties, serving the Commander in Chief.
    $$$$$$$$

    My cousin serves his country. Period!

  132. Raider O Says:

    I just know, they don’t like me, so I don’t like them.
    $$$$$$$$$$

    Wow!!!!
    You have a lot to learn. They don’t hate us, they hate our Gov. Many of us Americans feel the same way.

  133. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Greetings Raider brethren!

    Have to say RNS mentioned this first:

    Jerry Mac says KC may trade up to get RG III

  134. Sullivan44 Says:

    Republicans will not be in the white house for another 20 years, and the Iraq War is the reason for it. But go ahead and talk about 0bama and his deficit, trinity. lol. Yeah, that will be remembered in history. 0bama’s deficit. Not a war against a nation that wasn’t even a threat, that turned out to be nothing more than a cash grab by private contractors at the expense of the American tax payer.

  135. wasbanned Says:

    I see the trolls are here today.

  136. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB is a failed hip hop producer from rural, Northern California, in case anyone wants a little more background than what he just offered.

  137. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Politcal discussions?

    Its soooo far beyond Repub / Dem right now. BOTH parties are owned by multi-national Corporations bent on takin over the WORLD not just America.

    Thats why you’ve got 10s of MILLIONS of Occupy protesters on every Continent on earth.

  138. Sullivan44 Says:

    Excuse me, JFB is a failed hip hop promoter, is what I meant. He used to try to sign rappers. He’s from Tracy, CA. lol. Guess he was rebelling against his military police upbringing?

  139. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Hate that Davis football died with him but hate the fact we may need to suffer through even more losing seasons while we rebuild.

  140. Sullivan44 Says:

    Nnamdi the difference is at least most Democrats went into politics for the right reasons, some just got corrupted along the way. Republicans went into politics because they really want to help big business and they hate minorities. There’s a difference between the two. Two different mindsets.

  141. Sullivan44 Says:

    0bama pulled troops from Iraq. Bush/Cheney promised Iraq to be an “endless war”. That’s a difference.

  142. Raider O Says:

    If they hate US, then how come there are a lot of Americans (not part of the military) in that area?
    If they hate us so much, then why do they immigrate here, live here, and join our military?

    Stop being Racist dude. I thought you were better than that, but I guess I was wrong.

    Btw, I know that some of those things you will not say to my face. Let’s be civil.

  143. Sullivan44 Says:

    If there’s no difference between Democrats and Republicans what are tea partiers so afraid of?

  144. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL

    Sign rappers? I just had some good friends that I grew up with that are still rapping (Dubbsack Music). I tried to ride some coattails and be involved, but those coattails weren’t very long.

  145. Sullivan44 Says:

    0,

    JFB isn’t a racist. He’s a wannabe hip hopper from Tracy. He’s said so. I think he got rejected by the hip hop biz and this is his revenge. In real life he probably kisses every black ass he’s in the presence of.

  146. Sullivan44 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    I tried to ride some coattails and be involved

    …………

    Next.

  147. Just Fire Baby Says:

    In real life he probably kisses every black ass he’s in the presence of.

    **************************

    Just Cashmere, Katrina and Mercedes’

  148. Sullivan44 Says:

    A lot of racists today are former wannabe blacks who got rejected. They want full circle to the other end of the political spectrum. They’re basically overreacting to not being accepted by blacks. THAT is Just Fire Baby aka Vegas Raider. You can see this sentiment in every one of his political comments.

  149. RaiderDuck Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Politcal discussions?

    Its soooo far beyond Repub / Dem right now. BOTH parties are owned by multi-national Corporations bent on takin over the WORLD not just America.

    ===========================================

    “I like the puppet on the LEFT!”

    “Well, I like the puppet on the RIGHT!”

    “Wait a minute. The same guy’s holding BOTH puppets!”

    (hat tip to the late great Bill Hicks)

  150. Sullivan44 Says:

    Vegas, the only reason you’re hanging around white republicans and golfing is because black people rejected you. If you’d been accepted in hip hop, you’d still be in the bay promoting shows. Your entire identity is founded on your scorn for black hip hoppers.

  151. Sullivan44 Says:

    Even Bill Hicks said that Democrats were corrupted along the way. There’s a difference. The very gist of Bill’s famous sock puppet routine is mocking liberals who were put through the gantlet and made to be conservatives.

    “any questions?”

    “no. Just, what’s my agenda?”

  152. Sullivan44 Says:

    Republicans go into politics as conservatives. Shills for big business, racist agendas.

    Democrats go into politics to help people, wind up getting checked by power and money on the way up, and turn into corrupted moderates.

    That’s the truth.

  153. Just Fire Baby Says:

    O,

    I just don’t do the political correct stuff, and I will always support our military.

    It ain’t just some thing to argue about on a internet blog with me. It’s in my families DNA, and my wife is a VA nurse, helping all our heroes when they get home.

    I realize it is probably the same with you, with your families background in the region and all.

    So, just Raider On is all I can say, because I am sure neither one of us is going to change each others opinion.

  154. Raider O Says:

    Vegas is not a bad dude, but he is miss informed like most of us in this country. He needs to travel more, and get a different perspective on life.

  155. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My perspective will probably never change, and I have done a pretty fair amount of traveling for a 31 year old, although only in the America’s (North and South).

    At last count, I have had a drink in over 20 states.

    I think I will get close to 45 by the time my time is up.

  156. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    I almost joined the military, but I have a problem with authority, so it wasn’t a good fit.
    I love my country, my cousin is in the Army, my other cousin is in the Navy (I think, it’s been a long time since we talked), and most of my family members here/ there are Proud American citizens.

  157. Just Fire Baby Says:

    On that note, it has been fun, glad Sully is still keeping tabs on things.

    Off to go gamble and fuel the local economy

  158. Raider O Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    My perspective will probably never change, and I have done a pretty fair amount of traveling for a 31 year old, although only in the America’s (North and South).
    $$$$$$$$$

    Changing your perspective can help you grow as a person.

  159. edward teach Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    Republicans go into politics as conservatives. Shills for big business, racist agendas.

    Democrats go into politics to help people, wind up getting checked by power and money on the way up, and turn into corrupted moderates.

    ********************************************************

    I tend to agree with this, with one exception; I think it’s more about class warfare than it is a racist agenda with the Republicans. The bigger the divide between them and the poor the better they like it.

    The unfortunate thing is that people could change things if they wanted to. They just refuse to be informed.

  160. Raider O Says:

    The unfortunate thing is that people could change things if they wanted to. They just refuse to be informed.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    People love their bubbles! It gives them a sense of safety & comfort.

  161. Raider O Says:

    Btw,
    I don’t think this system is working.
    People come here for business and education, make a lot of money, then use the knowledge and money to hurt us.
    Giving countries aid, improve their living standards, and we don’t have health or free upper level education.
    I want a gov that works for me, and has my interest as its most important priority.

    I’m done talking politics.

  162. Seymour Bush Says:

    Mark Davis talks change
    ==============================

    Change is good.

  163. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Btw,
    I don’t think this system is working.
    =================================

    The system is clearly NOT working. Except for a very very few.

  164. Seymour Bush Says:

    The unfortunate thing is that people could change things if they wanted to. They just refuse to be informed.
    ==================================

    I don’t know if I would say most refuse to be informed, I think they get beaten down by day to day existence and tend to latch onto easy distractions such as sports or sensationalized Bullsh** news.

  165. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    yawn….

  166. raiderimmortal Says:

    My sources are telling me we are looking closely to Boise state players. Cb George iloka kid can ball Doug rb Doug Martin lil mike bush and ol potter dl McClellan and qb Moore after watching these guys play for years there is no downside to them they are disciplined, prepared and well motivated. More to come later.. One nation

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  168. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    kellen moore? the guy cant throw a deep out with a chicago wind behind his back….this just gets worse and worse…

  169. Tricky70390 Says:

    I’d rather have Isaiah Pead. Kid can ball. I watch a lot of Big East Football (USF Bulls fan here). Guy has some Ray Rice to him.

    I think if the Raiders plan to trade DMC they do this: Let Michael Bush test the market, sign him on the cheap after he doesn’t find the contract he wants, then make a draft day trade dealing McFadden for a high 2 and a 3 (possibly a 4), then draft Pead in the 2nd

  170. Tricky70390 Says:

    Also, Pead can pass-protect. Something Taiwan Jones can’t do and Bush has often failed at.

  171. severeraiderz Says:

    Did someone just suggest we trade our best player for a RB out of the big east and a 3rd round pick…….madness

  172. DKnight007 Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Trinity, the Iraq war bankrupted the country. And Bush owns that war. Bush, Republicans, and the overall American right wing mindset. You OWN that war, and that war has ruined our economy. So sit there in the sticks and blame 0bama all you want, for “running up a deficit”. LOL. Don’t make me laugh. History will have the last word. And in 100 years school students will be laughing at people like you that exist today.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

  173. DKnight007 Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Republicans will not be in the white house for another 20 years, and the Iraq War is the reason for it. But go ahead and talk about 0bama and his deficit, trinity. lol. Yeah, that will be remembered in history. 0bama’s deficit. Not a war against a nation that wasn’t even a threat, that turned out to be nothing more than a cash grab by private contractors at the expense of the American tax payer.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

  174. DKnight007 Says:

    The Brownies or Redskins will probably be the ones to trade up for RG3.

  175. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Trinity, the Iraq war bankrupted the country. And Bush owns that war. Bush, Republicans, and the overall American right wing mindset. You OWN that war, and that war has ruined our economy. So sit there in the sticks and blame 0bama all you want, for “running up a deficit”.
    ===========================

    To blame 0bama for the running up the deficit is preposterous. All you have to do is look up deficits for the last 30 years and you can clearly see the conservatives are the ones running up deficits. And there is a reason for that: because larger amounts of money go to wealthy bond holders and foreign countries and less go to “entitlements”. It’s a well thought out plan.

  176. wasbanned Says:

    The ignorance on this board is astounding when it comes to politics.

    You guys should really stick to football.

  177. Seymour Bush Says:

    severeraiderz Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Did someone just suggest we trade our best player for a RB out of the big east and a 3rd round pick…….madness
    ===================================

    Yep. Trade arguably the best running back in the league for God knows what. And then how do we know that new guy won’t get injured and not play?

  178. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    173.DKnight007 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    # Sullivan44 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Republicans will not be in the white house for another 20 years, and the Iraq War is the reason for it. But go ahead and talk about 0bama and his deficit, trinity. lol. Yeah, that will be remembered in history. 0bama’s deficit. Not a war against a nation that wasn’t even a threat, that turned out to be nothing more than a cash grab by private contractors at the expense of the American tax payer.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And here is MR agreeing with MR even though he was wrong the first time.

  179. Seymour Bush Says:

    wasbanned Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    The ignorance on this board is astounding when it comes to politics.

    You guys should really stick to football.
    ========================================

    And I thought the ignorance on football matters was astounding. 99.9% of the posters here must be the result of the American educational system. The same system that the conservatives have been gutting for the last 25 years.

  180. edward teach Says:

    severeraiderz Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    Did someone just suggest we trade our best player for a RB out of the big east and a 3rd round pick…….madness

    ********************************************************

    Agreed. First of all, who in the third round would be so valuable to your team that you would give up McFadden to get him? If all you need is another third-round pick I’m sure there are better ways to get one than to downgrade at running back.

    Aside from last season, McFadden has averaged playing 13 games per year during his career, and there are very few backs in the league that can do what he can when he’s in the game.

    He’s our best weapon on offense. I have a hard time believing that a rookie running back and whomever we’d find in the third round would make a bigger impact.

  181. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    12.MistaBrown Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:27 am
    I like what Mark has done since he has been thrust into his role. How this all works out I have no idea but he hasn’t done anything stupid as of yet. He seems intent on keeping the identity of the organization while moving into modern times. We are lucky that the team wasn’t sold to some wealthy schmuck that turned things into something we wouldn’t recognize or like.

    Do your thing Mark and cut Seymour!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And here is Mistabrown getting at least two out of three right.

    1. Mark hasn’t done anything stupid yet and in fact things look good.
    2. He hasn’t sold the team. That prospect did occur to me also and I didn’t like it.

    You’re wrong on the Seymour thing though.
    Why the hell would he cut him when he’s already paid him?

  182. Raiderjambo Says:

    Actually Seymour, that’s the beauty of “The Raider Nation”, it transcends national borders, and I say less than 99.9% of the posters are the result of the American educational system!

  183. Seymour Bush Says:

    Good point jambo.

  184. edward teach Says:

    Raiders interim head coach Tom Cable, who took over after Kiffin was fired by owner Al Davis, was criticized for not playing McFadden later in the season. Responding to criticism, Cable stated “Well what really dictated was the rotation we were in, terms of the game, the flow of the game. I think [Justin] Fargas played pretty well. It’s just those situations present themselves.” Oakland Tribune writer Jerry McDonald responded to Cable’s statement, saying “If the flow of the game means keeping McFadden, an excellent receiving back, off the field on third down plays which call for a pass, then the flow needs to be changed by the play-caller.”

    ********************************************************

    Remember this?

  185. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    179.Seymour Bush Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    wasbanned Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    The ignorance on this board is astounding when it comes to politics.

    You guys should really stick to football.
    ========================================

    And I thought the ignorance on football matters was astounding. 99.9% of the posters here must be the result of the American educational system. The same system that the conservatives have been gutting for the last 25 years.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now wait a minute Oakglenn.
    Democrats have been running the state of California for decades.
    Democrats have been in charge of the educational system not conservatives.
    How’s that working out?

  186. Seymour Bush Says:

    Democrats have been running the state of California for decades.
    Democrats have been in charge of the educational system not conservatives.
    How’s that working out?
    ======================================

    No, we haven’t. We’ve had conservative governors here for almost 30 years. Arnold came in and ruined everything and he was preceeded by the only democrat for about two years who was recalled for BS reasons so another conservative could go in and eff things up. Prior to that were two administrations of conservatives. Funny how that completely parallels the fall of the state.

  187. Seymour Bush Says:

    edward teach Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Raiders interim head coach Tom Cable, who took over after Kiffin was fired by owner Al Davis, was criticized for not playing McFadden later in the season. Responding to criticism, Cable stated “Well what really dictated was the rotation we were in, terms of the game, the flow of the game. I think [Justin] Fargas played pretty well. It’s just those situations present themselves.” Oakland Tribune writer Jerry McDonald responded to Cable’s statement, saying “If the flow of the game means keeping McFadden, an excellent receiving back, off the field on third down plays which call for a pass, then the flow needs to be changed by the play-caller.”

    ********************************************************

    Remember this?
    ==================================

    The issue with McFadden if you remember his lst two years in the league he put the ball on the ground over and over again. And his protections were not the best as well. So, putting him in crucial late game situations was probably not the best thing to do. Funny how Cable recognized this and the team played hard for him at the end. That is the “accountability” card and how to exercise it.

  188. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Yes you have.
    Democrats have controlled the legislature for decades and that is what counts.
    Democrats have also been governor for a decade and a half since Arnold definitely wasn’t a Republican–more like a Bill Clinton Democrat.

  189. RaiderDuck Says:

    edward teach Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Aside from last season, McFadden has averaged playing 13 games per year during his career, and there are very few backs in the league that can do what he can when he’s in the game.

    ===========================================

    He may have averaged 13 games, but except for 2010, a goodly number of those games where were he was obviously gimpy and would play just a few series.

    2010 was the only year where he was on the field in the amount you’d expect from a #1 back.

  190. edward teach Says:

    The issue with McFadden if you remember his lst two years in the league he put the ball on the ground over and over again. And his protections were not the best as well. So, putting him in crucial late game situations was probably not the best thing to do. Funny how Cable recognized this and the team played hard for him at the end. That is the “accountability” card and how to exercise it.

    ********************************************************

    I remember the debates in here about that. We should all be thankful that he listened to Kelly Skipper and worked on those aspects of his game. Hopefully he’ll be fully healed by the time he needs to be and we can look forward to seeing him with the ball in his hands next year.

  191. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    188. Republicans spent the last 12-15yrs rolling back 40 yrs worth of Democratic safeguards that protected us from exactly what happened. AGAIN.

    The great depression 2 was a deliberate act.

  192. Seymour Bush Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Yes you have.
    Democrats have controlled the legislature for decades and that is what counts.
    ==========================================

    Not in this state. There was a constitutional mandate that any taxes would have to be raised by two thirds congressional majority. So for the last 30 years we have had tyranny of the minority here. While 57% of Democratic legislators wanted to increase taxes to balance the budget, the 30+% conservatives would not allow it, so deficits ballooned.

    And to say Schwarzenegger was not a conservative is just plain silly. He campaigned on crushing “special interests” but those special interests just happened to be the teachers, nurses and fire fighter unions. Of course the prison guard union, maybe the one that needed to be reined it, he left alone. Classic conservative no tax, tough on crime policies that ruined the state.

  193. Tricky70390 Says:

    Severeraiderz Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    Did someone just suggest we trade our best player for a RB out of the big east and a 3rd round pick…….madness
    ======================
    And just where was Ray Rice drafted out of? Do you even watch college football? If a kid can play a kid can play, no matter the conference. Crawl out from under your Pac-12 rock for a change.

  194. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Oakglenn,
    Arnold was not a conservative. He was an opportunist. And a damn poor one.
    The Democratic Party controls BOTH houses of the California legislature RIGHT NOW.
    If the Republicans controlled it they would have cut taxes and spending a long time ago and all those businesses wouldn’t be fleeing the state for more hospitable climates.

  195. edward teach Says:

    He may have averaged 13 games, but except for 2010, a goodly number of those games where were he was obviously gimpy and would play just a few series.

    2010 was the only year where he was on the field in the amount you’d expect from a #1 back.

    ********************************************************

    He will definitely have to show that he can be healthy this year. That said, he’s under contract for this year and next, and we’d be hard pressed to find a playmaker at that position to take his place.

    I think sometimes folks forget just how dynamic the guy is. You don’t trade that for a draft pick or two, especially when you have glaring holes elsewhere.

  196. Jumbo Gumbo Says:

    Anybody know what Amy and Mark have been doin behind the scenes. Is Amy Commander in Chief doing Marks bidding? Is Mark just the figurehead and Amy the fountainhead? So many questions.

    Man, my username has been hacked and some dog breath is goin around posting as me. Don’t buy into it. If you don’t hear it straight from me, don’t listen to it. Go Raiders!

  197. Seymour Bush Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Oakglenn,
    Arnold was not a conservative.
    ======================================

    Sure. Neither was Herbert Hoover, George W. or Warren Harding. They’re the worst politicians this side of Stalin and Pol Pot.

  198. McDoublecheese Says:

    Best damn burger in the universe.

    Supersize me baby!

  199. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Allen also thought running back Darren McFadden, who missed the last nine games of the season with a severe mid-foot sprain, would flourish in a system that will include heavy doses of zone blocking.

    When healthy, McFadden’s numbers took off when coach Hue Jackson instituted more gap and power blocking in place of Tom Cable’s zone blocking system.

    “When you look at the running games that Greg’s been a part of, they’ve all been very successful, with a lot of different styles of runners,” Allen said.”

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_20040447

    ====

    Translation?

    Fugg Dmac. He’ll run what I tell him to run! ;) OR we’ll work some stuff out for the guy.

  200. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    McDoublecheese Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Best damn burger in the universe.

    Supersize me baby!

    ==============

    I dunno…the Aurturian Krell burger pretty good…

  201. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    199.Seymour Bush Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Oakglenn,
    Arnold was not a conservative.
    ======================================

    Sure. Neither was Herbert Hoover, George W. or Warren Harding. They’re the worst politicians this side of Stalin and Pol Pot.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Well, I’m not sure what you’re saying there since

    –Hoover was not exceptionally conservative and even called for a moritorium on payment of WW1 debts (i.e.Being a Republican doesn’t make you a conservative necessarily conservative;
    — Warren was a certifiable idiot along Joe Biden lines:
    –Stalin was as far left as you can go
    –and Pol Pot was just fuk’n crazy.

  202. Lamont Says:

    RaiderWeaponX Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    McDoublecheese Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Best damn burger in the universe.

    Supersize me baby!

    ==============

    I dunno…the Aurturian Krell burger pretty good…
    ===========================================

    I spose, but I had a burger on Jupiter called the Jupitarian Squeeze that was made from dirt with melted leather. Not bad. Fries sucked.

  203. Alex7 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Oakglenn,
    Arnold was not a conservative.
    ======================================

    Sure. Neither was Herbert Hoover, George W. or Warren Harding. They’re the worst politicians this side of Stalin and Pol Pot.
    ========================
    If you aren’t Oakglenn, why do you answer to questions directed at Oakglenn?

  204. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    I dig Jerry. That guy is spot on. He calls out the stuff no one else does or will.

    Dmac didn’t flourish until we switched away from the ZBS.

    Few people seem to be questioning the highly questionable here but thats all right. Everyone gets a 2-3 yr pass cuz their new.

  205. Jumbo Gumbo Says:

    Personally I think Marc is Amy’s lackey.
    What did Amy do? Wasn’t for looks, that’s for sure. Kind of a bowser.

  206. Batarango Says:

    :lol:

  207. Jumbo Gumbo Says:

    RaiderWeaponX Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    I dig Jerry. That guy is spot on. He calls out the stuff no one else does or will.

    Dmac didn’t flourish until we switched away from the ZBS.

    Few people seem to be questioning the highly questionable here but thats all right. Everyone gets a 2-3 yr pass cuz their new.
    —————
    You ignorant or sumthing?
    2-3 yr pass? That’s for losers, loser.
    Talk that chyttt somewhere else, if you know what’s good for ya.

  208. Jumbo Gumbo Says:

    Jumbo Gumbo Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Personally I think Marc is Amy’s lackey.
    What did Amy do? Wasn’t for looks, that’s for sure. Kind of a bowser.
    ===================================================

    I hear ya. But ya gotta admit, Amy has been an eye catcher at times.

  209. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    205.Alex7 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Oakglenn,
    Arnold was not a conservative.
    ======================================

    Sure. Neither was Herbert Hoover, George W. or Warren Harding. They’re the worst politicians this side of Stalin and Pol Pot.
    ========================
    If you aren’t Oakglenn, why do you answer to questions directed at Oakglenn?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL!

    MR, posing as Alex, comes on to accuse Oakglenn of posting as Seymour!

  210. Quadraphonic Buttcheeks Says:

    Eye catcher? Blind guy wouldn’t have turned his head.
    Jumbo Mumbo was spot on.
    One of them were

  211. Mr Baseball Says:

    Quadraphonic Buttcheeks Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    Eye catcher? Blind guy wouldn’t have turned his head.
    Jumbo Mumbo was spot on.
    One of them were
    ——————————

    You tryin to tell me Amy with all that power isn’t sexy? Whoa dude. Amy is hot!

  212. Quadraphonic Buttcheeks Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    205.Alex7 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Oakglenn,
    Arnold was not a conservative.
    ======================================

    Sure. Neither was Herbert Hoover, George W. or Warren Harding. They’re the worst politicians this side of Stalin and Pol Pot.
    ========================
    If you aren’t Oakglenn, why do you answer to questions directed at Oakglenn?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL!

    MR, posing as Alex, comes on to accuse Oakglenn of posting as Seymour!
    ———————-
    So, are we due 4 answers, or 2?

  213. Quadraphonic Buttcheeks Says:

    Mr Baseball Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Quadraphonic Buttcheeks Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    Eye catcher? Blind guy wouldn’t have turned his head.
    Jumbo Mumbo was spot on.
    One of them were
    ——————————

    You tryin to tell me Amy with all that power isn’t sexy? Whoa dude. Amy is hot!=
    ——————————-
    Power perceived is power achieved.
    I don’t perceive Amy having any power, at all.

    do you? Seriously, do you? What has she ever done to exude the impression she has power?
    Just another of Al’s lackeys.

  214. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Jumbo whatever RMR gross seriously. invest in reality and get some semblance of a life

  215. Frogman and the winter worm Says:

    Amy is a Raider, that’s what makes her hot.

    http://blog.betdsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/albaoak.jpg

  216. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Yes you have.
    Democrats have controlled the legislature for decades and that is what counts.
    ==========================================

    Not in this state. There was a constitutional mandate that any taxes would have to be raised by two thirds congressional majority. So for the last 30 years we have had tyranny of the minority here. While 57% of Democratic legislators wanted to increase taxes to balance the budget, the 30+% conservatives would not allow it, so deficits ballooned.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I missed that post.

    Conservatives stand in the way of raising taxes because taxes are (a) too high already and (b) what really needs to be done is to cut back on government expenditures.
    Believe it or not but the deficit can be reduced by cutting government.

    Taxes are way too high in California and that is why both people and industry are leaving the state.

  217. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    So, are we due 4 answers, or 2?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL.
    Nice one.

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  219. Raiders for life Says:

    been reading all the predictions and speculation on the blog. The best one yet is to package DMAC and Ford for a 2nd round trade.
    I have to disagree with that one.

  220. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    been reading all the predictions and speculation on the blog. The best one yet is to package DMAC and Ford for a 2nd round trade.
    I have to disagree with that one.

    ============================================

    No way. DMac shouldn’t go for anything less than a first-rounder. DMac and Ford together shouldn’t go for anything less than a top-10 pick, which nobody is likely to give up.

  221. waklaboo Says:

    It’s a longshot but if the Raiders win the next SB I’ll grow my hair like Mark’s to start a fad.

  222. Raiders for life Says:

    If you’re Marks age, you gotta let your hair grow and be free.

  223. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    I think Marc is kinda cute, to be honest.

  224. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    He’s got that beach boy thang going, with a goofy lazy eye that makes you wonder if he’s looking at you.
    Rumbly rumbly in my tumbly

  225. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    223. MODERATORS: THIS PR*CK IS MASQUERADING AS ME AGAIN. PLEASE BAN HIS IP ADDRESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!

  226. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    223. 224. How sick and pathetic you must be. Desperate and just disturbing.

    Iggy

  227. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    222. Mark has weird ears. Thats why the dumb and dumber hair do

  228. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Back to football…

    I can see Allen saying he’d like to tailor the scheme to the team and the personnel hes got while trying to rebuild but honestly, even with a veteran staff that sounds like a tall order.

    I hope we win the dam-b super bowl next year but realistically, the Raiders look like a mess.

  229. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    227 is not me. BAN THIS PUNK

  230. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    229 IS A FRAUD. Please, Mod, just send him on his way.

  231. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Unless I say it’s me, it’s not me.
    Take it to the bank.

  232. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Unlike 229, the fraud, I don’t believe we are a mess.
    A few pieces to fill the puzzle, and we’re a team to contend with. Please just adios this sucker on 229. Ban that IP. Restore order to the force.

  233. Master Beeecham Says:

    Raider X, calm down you creampuff blog zero!

    Man, your troll sure got in your head! And no matter how hard you try to get back to “raider football”, your troll is still owning you.

    Pretty hilarious, my minion! But don’t worry, the Beach Dawg is getting a sweet laugh out of it!

  234. Gastronimical Issues and Fissures Says:

    Anybody who think Mark Davis does not mean business ought to have there ears examined. The dude has hired a bona-fide GM, hired a up and coming HC, sent Hue and Routt walking, sent Hererra off into the sunset, and probably even got computers and power point at the main office now.

    Mark grew up in football and that is all he probably knows. Well, maybe surfing perhaps, but he is a Raider football guy. We gonna be all right.

  235. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Mark is a smart business man he understands that part of running a team but he is also insightful enough to know that he is not good at evaluating talent and or player personnel so he hired Reggie to do that part while he focuses on getting a new stadium and making us a profitable team again.

  236. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Yawn. I have a life. U clearly don’t

  237. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/

  238. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Mark is a smart business man he understands that part of running a team but he is also insightful enough to know that he is not good at evaluating talent and or player personnel so he hired Reggie to do that part while he focuses on getting a new stadium and making us a profitable team again
    ==========================================================
    Wat’s wrong with you, man?
    You have to earn the title of smart business man.
    Mark hired an inexperienced doofus as GM. How does that make him smart?
    Focus on new stadium?
    Make team profitable?
    Mark Davis looks like a silverspoon in mouth kid, who even his father was embarrassed by him.
    Read that again. HIS FATHER WAS EMBARRASSED BY HIM.

  239. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Apparently raidernation dot com has been voted as one of the top 5 worst team sites currently online.
    How can this be?
    We only copy from the best sites. Because we feel some of you would be more comfortable, we don’t proofread. Is taht a crime? Help no.

  240. YoungAmerican Says:

    Re-sign:
    Tyvon Branch
    Samson Satele
    Jon Condo
    Matt Giordano

    Desmond Bryant (2nd round tender)
    Marcel Reece (2nd round tender)

    Cut Kelly, Henderson, C. Johnson, Eugene
    Restructure Curry, Seymour, Huff, Palmer

    FA targets:
    Tracy Porter
    Richard Marshall
    Ahmad Brooks
    Aubrayo Franklin

    Draft prospects:
    3 (comp) DE/OLB/ILB McClellin / LB. Au. Cole / CB L. Johnson / CB/S T. Johnson / DE Bequette
    4 (comp) NT Hicks / NT Jean-Baptiste / NT Chapman / DE/OLB J. Miller / DE/OLB Law
    5 RB Ganaway / RB Poole
    5 (comp) FS Jackson
    6 OT Reynolds / ILB Ad. Cole

  241. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, look at Mark’s father. Al may have had a respectable opinion 30 years ago, but not in recent years. Most people saw him as senile. He didn’t like his son Mark? Well, he didn’t like Gruden or Marcus Allen, either. So what?

  242. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    So what?
    I’ll tell you what.
    He liked Gruden and Marcus when he hired them. Talked to them. Schooled them. Instilled in them his trust and beliefs until they violated his trust.
    Mark was always a snot faced kid to Al. Nothing more.

  243. Raider O Says:

    Did you know Richard Marshall had a 71% burn rate in 2010?

  244. Sullivan44 Says:

    Just Fire Bay, I seriously doubt if bucking political correctness and blindly supporting US military action (no matter how criminal) is in your DNA if you spent your 20s trying to upstart a hip hop label. Your very identity today is founded on your scorn for the hip hoppers that left you behind. Had they not, you’d still be sipping Hennessey backstage with Keak Da Sneek’s dancers.

  245. Sullivan44 Says:

    If Al thought so low of Mark why did he leave him the team?

  246. YoungAmerican Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Did you know Richard Marshall had a 71% burn rate in 2010?

    ————–

    Played much better as the season went on. Regardless, he’s an inexpensive veteran player. Raiders don’t have $8-10 million to blow on an upper-tier cornerback, unfortunately.

  247. Sullivan44 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    It ain’t just some thing to argue about on a internet blog with me. It’s in my families DNA

    ………..

    LOL!

    Charlie Daniels over here. I’m sure you talked in that there southern drawl when you were trying to be Tracy’s Master P.

  248. Sullivan44 Says:

    BTW, just what did Al Davis teach Marcus Allen or Jon Gruden?

  249. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Didn’t say he taught them. Said he schooled them. Is you ignorant or what?

  250. Sullivan44 Says:

    Didn’t think you’d have an answer. Al teaching (or “schooling”) Marcus Allen or Jon Gruden on anything…hilarious.

  251. RMRGAWBLES Says:

    Hi all! Just wanted to say I’m back and vow to keep being an annoying azz because I’m sick and pathetic!

    Hang in there gloks, my example of how cr-ap your life could be should serve as cautionary example.

    U know, upon further review RAIDER NATION STATION is clearly a unique and often very reliable source for raider information!

    Don’t know why I was such a gawbler about it. I guess its because I’m stupid and ugly and lonely and pathe—well you get the picture.

    Clearly I’m unemployable so I’ll just get back to spending time annoying the world because I’m d*-*kless

    Later!

    RMR, Ricochet and 8,000 other easily identifiable aliases.

    dont forget! RAIDER NATION STATION RAWKS!!!

  252. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Al not only thought lowly of Mark, but in leaving him the team he insured his legacy.
    Al knew Mark would show him up under normal conditions. Not because Mark was good, but cuz Al knew he kept screwing up.
    Letting Mark screw everything up would have fans missing Al, and the good ole days.
    Yes, he set him up to fail.
    A moment of silence, please.

  253. Sullivan44 Says:

    And, again, why did Al leave Mark the team if he hated him so much? Mark didn’t have to lobby for the position he has now. Al dies, Mark was in charge. Just like that. And Mark has made some big moves. Herrera’s gone. New GM. House is being cleaned. Could be maybe Al himself didn’t like his own lackeys. Because the guy Al put in charge is putting them in front of a firing squad.

  254. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ha ha ha!!! Ha!!! Al thought lowly of Mark, yet put him in charge of the franchise!!! Sure. Keep rambling on.

  255. RMRGAWBLES Says:

    BY THE WAY DID I MENTION IM EXTRA LONELY TONIGHT?! I CANT GET THE REAL RAIDER WEAPON X TO TALK TO ME SO I’M PRETENDING TO BE SULLIVAN44 TOO.

    OH GAWD, OH GAWD, OH GAWD THE SOUL CRUSHING LONELINESS I SO RICHLY DESERVE!!!

    BTW, RAIDER NATION STATION, A FONT OF VITAL AND UNIQUE RAIDER KNOWLEDGE!

    SO LONELY IN MY $200 A MONTH APARMENT…I MEAN CLOSET…I RENT FROM MY MOM

    http://raidernationstation.com/

  256. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Told ya, is you ignorant or what?
    Al wanted russell. Gru wanted player who jus happened to be the best rb in the league. Al schooled him.
    Marcus wanted to play. al said sit down fool, you’re on a prolonged rest. Schooled, fool.

  257. RaiderWeaponX Says:

    Fools outta control.
    Listen up.
    Was reported here and elsewhere that Al dissed his son in public all the time. Never was it reported Mark was in on a single meeting, fool.
    Also reported that becuase Mark was so humbled by his dad, in front of all the other lackeys, Mark is disposing of all those who watch his beatdowns.
    Woe be is us. Woe we be.

  258. Sullivan44 Says:

    Marcus Allen is the Raiders’ all time leading rusher.

    He was also a Raider killer when with the Chiefs.

    Marcus Allen was the MVP of the last Super Bowl Al won.

    You tell me who schooled who, fool.

  259. Sullivan44 Says:

    And after all that, Al still leaves him the team.

  260. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “And after all that, Al still leaves him the team.”

    The proof is in the pudding if Mark was a schmuck like you claim then there is no way Al leaves him in control of a life of hard work building this team.

  261. SULLIVANSTINX Says:

    Hi all! Whoo! Just wanted to remind you all that me lay-dee bits stank!

    whoo lawdy talk about tainted meat! *gags* gurh-blaqghah!!!!

    Caught a whiff of my own business.

    Well, even though I’m a talentless jack -a-z I do know a good raider site when I read one and RAIDER NATION STATION IS IT!!!

    Its IBA and then RNS and I’m pretty much set on raider news.

    Not alot of time between scrubbings. If I don’t keep this thing submerged?

    WOOF!

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/

  262. SULLIVANSTINX Says:

    so there I am slathered in dog feces and naked as a jay bird. my neighbor says, “Sully, you sicken me but you sure know a good raider site when you see one! That RAIDER NATION STATION IS THE BEST!”

    He also mentioned what a complete and utter discgrace to the human race I am so you know…got that goin for me.

  263. RMRGAWBLES Says:

    Listen, just poked my head out my SHAME CLOSET and I don;t understand something (other than you know, decency, compassion, a clean dog bowl…) how can I be on here as me AND someone else at the same time?!

    I don;t know, but RAIDER NATION STATION SURE ROCKS!!!

    I do know that sure as I know what my Moms bunnions smell like yessir.

    Did I mention its her closet btw?

    btw, which can also stand for born this way.

    Reeking that is.

    Well I guess I’m SULLIVANSTINX and RMR, RICOCHET and all the other bat sh*t crazy stupidity I put on here so I can get some attention.

    Mom gives me some but trust ladies, it aint the kind you want…*shudder*

    So, in conclusion, I am several people on this blog, haver zero or dignity and smell just awful.

    raider nation station however is legit.

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/

  264. severeraiderz Says:

    Lol where’s that guy that was trying to compare Isaiah Pead to Ray Rice

  265. SULLIVANSTINX Says:

    Was happy there for a minute. Thought Mom was being nice and kicked a pancake under the closet door.

    Ate it and then realized it might have been a Dr Scholl’s.

    A very very old and well used Dr. Scholl’s mind you…

    Oh well, its an improvement on my breff.

    Say, did I mention RAIDER NATION STATION?! I just cant quit gushing about it like a little school girl with breath like rotten feet!

    Oops…threw up a little. Oddly it actually smells better in here now right RMR GAWBLES?

    *muffled grunt*

    He says right and to remind you all we love RAIDER NATION STATION!

    Ta ta! Oh gawd the smell!!!

  266. SULLIVANSTINX Says:

    Hey where’d Raider Weapon X’s stalker go? Lights out after dinner I guess

  267. Hardline Says:

    Man this blog has become pathetic since Corky “straightened” it out.

    Instead of colorful, original open debates we have taken to personal attacks by those who can’t type, spell or write.

    Now we have guys like Hindu, Hayes, SullivanStinx, RMRGAWBLES (trying to unsuccessfully parrot Beeechham), and the irreplaceable RaiderWeaponX.
    ******************************************************

    Time to sleep.

    Hardline, formerly AL D. Davis (and proud of it!),

    perpetrater in the past of what others call filth, hate, race baiting, which I deny.

  268. dcraiderfan Says:

    Hello bottom of the division for 4 seasons. A plain slap in the fan’s face!@

  269. Sullivan44 Says:

    How about, goodbye blogosphere, hello twitter? It’s possible.

  270. Sullivan44 Says:

    anyone who’s anyone in the sports press is on twitter now. they link to their articles but you can also just comment on their twitter. let’s face it, blogs are so 2005.

  271. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Jerry McDonald ‏ @Jerrymcd
    Reply RetweetedRetweet

    More Brian Billick on California: `You look at their budget and the way they work in Sacramento and you’d think they’re all on dope.’

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL!
    Too true!

  272. Gomer Says:

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/26/rgiii-unofficially-timed-at-4-38-seconds-in-40-yard-dash/?module=HP11_headline_stack

    I know 4.3 is fast, but what is the deal of 3/10ths of a second when some is a 4.0 or a 4.3? Fast is fast but what gives with that? I mean some guys are a 4.9 of 5.0 now you could say that is not as fast but 5.0 is fast if you got the moves. Largent didn’t tear it up but he sure could deke Lester the molester Hayes. Only WR who could ever get in Lester the molesters head. But he could shut down everyone else. Largent was slow but could put a move on anyone. Sure wish Lester Hayes could be our CB coach. He could teach anyone a thing or two. They just don’t play like he did anymore. Dude should be a HOFer. And why is everyone talking about Eli being a future HOFer just because he won two SBs’? What gives? Plunkett won two. Raiders are gonna be good this year.

  273. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I always liked that Benjamin kid from the U, and if Al were still calling the shots, you know we would be drafting him and his 4.32 forty time.

    Kind of takes some of the fun out of predicting who we will pick in the draft.

  274. YoungAmerican Says:

    Mark Davis wanted to distance himself so much from anyone who knew how his father treated him… that he brought in John Madden, Ron Wolf, and Ken Herock to help with the GM search, and then hired Reggie McKenzie.

  275. Raider O Says:

    RG3 is 6′2+, so Why is Dakota calling him a midget?

  276. RaiderDuck Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    February 26th, 2012 at 8:27 am
    Mark Davis wanted to distance himself so much from anyone who knew how his father treated him… that he brought in John Madden, Ron Wolf, and Ken Herock to help with the GM search, and then hired Reggie McKenzie.

    ============================================

    Exactly. Mike Silver’s daft hit piece doesn’t even hold up as comedy.

  277. Raider O Says:

    YA,

    He also hired Knapp Again and kept Wiz.

  278. aig-raiders Says:

    Stephen Hill GT WR just ran 4.31 for a 6-4 215lbs guy. Where’s Al Davis when we need him?

  279. Raider O Says:

    And kept Saunders too.

  280. Raider O Says:

    I hope we draft Hill in later RDs.

  281. Humdinger Says:

    Draft got to be all defense, cuz our defense is bad. Got to build it up thru the draft. Reggie is a defense GM, Allen is a defense HC, and Mark had to defend himself with that haircut. Our offense is play-off caliber, just like last year, cept the D stunk.

  282. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raiders are looking for diamonds in a vast pit of coal.

    This draft is about finding role players and depth guys.

    This team will not get much better from the April draft thanks to the “here and now” mentality of that incompetent coach that Mark and Reggie rightfully dismissed.

    This is all about free agency…which is handcuffed with oppressive contracts on the defense.

    Hopefully the offense goes “lights out” and Carson earns his $12 million

  283. Raider O Says:

    6′4, 220, and ran a 4.32.

  284. Cornfucious Says:

    :mad:

  285. Raider O Says:

    I’m not saying we should draft him with our 1st pick of the draft. The guy had 49 catches in 3 years, Al passed, so no one will draft him before the 5th round IMO.
    He had 49 catches, 1248 yards, 25+ YPC, and 9 TDs in THREE years.

  286. Raider O Says:

    I hope we get one of those huge WRs this draft. I really like Brian Quick.

  287. severeraiderz Says:

    Raider o

    And when was the last time these guys were privy to what went on bvehind the doors in Alameda on a day to day basis? Everyone has come to the same conclusion, Mark Davis wanted Hue gone, the reasoning behind it may vary but the fact is its the only conclusion that makes any sense

  288. Blowhard Says:

    Its all about getting the right frame of playahs. Hard working good athletes on and off the field. The Giants got that kind of combination of playahs and look at them. The won a suppa bowl. But we also need the nasty type who can stop the run and shut down the passing game. If the Raidahs can be a numba 1 ranking defense, you know the offense is gonna take care of business. I like what Reggie and Allen are doing, rootin out the defense and sendin a message. AD would be proud of DA. Yes, MD and RM are gonna gett’er done.

  289. Seymour Bush Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Oakglenn,
    Arnold was not a conservative.
    ===================================

    I love this more than anything. Once the conservative policies inevitably fail, which they inevitably do, then the conservatives come running out and say that is not conservatism. Of course it is. For example Huge tax breaks for the rich concentrate wealth in fewer and fewer hands directly resulting in economic catastrophe (See Europe, Dark Ages).

  290. Seymour Bush Says:

    Man, looks like a few “people” couldn’t get a date on Saturday night.

  291. Mark Clemens Says:

    Nobody on this blog gets dates on Saturday night, unless you count Brien’s prostitutes.

  292. Ladies Man Says:

    Well I guess you could say I date all week and rest it up on the week-ends.

  293. Thec Says:

    Raider O Says:
    February 26th, 2012 at 8:43 am
    RG3 is 6′2+, so Why is Dakota calling him a midget?

    ++++++++++

    Drew Bres is 6′0″….Midget tslk is ridiculous…
    If the guy can play height is irrelevant…

  294. Hot Tuna Says:

    Raidahs are a gonna be a gooda thisa yeara. Book it.

  295. djohnnyg Says:

    Watching the Nfl Combine on NFLN and if you turn on your tv right now you can see our Offensive Coordinator GREGG KNAPP working with the QB’s and barking out instructions and encouragement.

    He looks pretty intense.

    He’s probably excited about his new gig.

  296. djohnnyg Says:

    282.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    February 26th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Raiders are looking for diamonds in a vast pit of coal.

    This draft is about finding role players and depth guys.

    This team will not get much better from the April draft thanks to the “here and now” mentality of that incompetent coach that Mark and Reggie rightfully dismissed.

    This is all about free agency…which is handcuffed with oppressive contracts on the defense.

    Hopefully the offense goes “lights out” and Carson earns his $12 million

    In all fairness, Mark had to sign off on the Palmer Mark doesn’t have the cajones to stand up to a first yr. head coach wanting to spend Mark’s money. And if that’s the case, we’ve got bigger problems going on to worry about.

    I like the Palmer deal anyway. Always liked him as a QB and as a person. I like the fact he refused to play anymore for the Bengals.

  297. djohnnyg Says:

    *I meant to say Mark had to sign off on the Palmer deal.

  298. Seymour Bush Says:

    djohnnyg Says:
    February 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Watching the Nfl Combine on NFLN and if you turn on your tv right now you can see our Offensive Coordinator GREGG KNAPP working with the QB’s and barking out instructions and encouragement.

    He looks pretty intense.

    He’s probably excited about his new gig.
    ====================================

    Knapp is always that way.

  299. Seymour Bush Says:

    I like the Palmer deal anyway. Always liked him as a QB and as a person. I like the fact he refused to play anymore for the Bengals.
    =====================================

    I like all of that as well. And if there is any doubt about how tough Palmer is, put in the tape of the 2nd half of the beating we took in Green Bay. Carson is standing there getting his ass KICKED, but he does not back down an INCH. There’s a word for that. It’s called leadership.

  300. Seymour Bush Says:

    Paying $12mm for a top notch Q is not overpaying. Paying $12mm for Eli, or $14mm for Brady is not overpaying. Paying $14.5mm for Sanchez?? That is over paying. Or $20+mm for a bench warming Peyton?? That is over paying.

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  302. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Heard an interesting thing by McShay on ESPN radio this morning on RGIII.

    The concern, about the ONLY concern with him, is at the end of his throwing motion, he is overextended on his front foot, and allows him to get creamed on hits after he throws.

    Talked about a play in the Oklahoma game, where on a pass he completed for about 60 yards, he got hit by a 215 freshman LB, and his ankles ended up where his belly button was. The concern is what will happend when that is a 260 pound grown man, instead of an 18 year old.

    I watched almost all of his snaps after about the 5th game of the year, and always thought the same thing. Why is this guy, who is a legit 6′2 220 pounds, getting decleated so much. You watch Luck, Newton, even Tebow, and defenders hit them and than drag them down.

    With RGIII, these people are pulverizing him. Kudo’s to his toughness for getting up all the time, but something to watch for in his NFL career.

  303. YoungAmerican Says:

    Bears release Anthony Adams. Could be a decent low-dollar stopgap option for the d-line. Good against the run, has some ability to penetrate as well.

  304. SULLIVANSTINX Says:

    Hardline Says:
    February 25th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
    Man this blog has become pathetic since Corky “straightened” it out.

    Instead of colorful, original open debates we have taken to personal attacks by those who can’t type, spell or write.

    Now we have guys like Hindu, Hayes, SullivanStinx, RMRGAWBLES (trying to unsuccessfully parrot Beeechham), and the irreplaceable RaiderWeaponX.
    ******************************************************

    Time to sleep.

    Hardline, formerly AL D. Davis (and proud of it!),

    perpetrater in the past of what others call filth, hate, race baiting, which I deny.

    =====

    Ahh

  305. Seymour Bush Says:

    #302, that is a concern. RG III is a really good kid. Smart, funny, serious, good kid. The problem is his mechanics are not very good. Which is fine when you are playing against students and you are the superior athlete. When you are playing against professional athlete’s they may be bigger, faster and better than you are, that presents distinct problems.

  306. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Regarding mobility, I just pray Palmer doesn’t turn into Geoff George once a WCO is implemented…timing routes are so different than a “bombs away” attitude.

    And more ‘no huddle’. Palmer had that down pat after a month….soemthing even the most ardent JC man crush defenders can’t defend.

  307. SULLIVANSTINX Says:

    RNS talked about the Hybrid Nation last year. Didn;t work because of the injuries across the board but looks like they’ll expand on it scheme wise.

    Patriots are one of the teams that siccessfully hybrids. Nothing new. TE and RB. WR at CB ect ect.

  308. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am sure RGIII will work on it and fix it up.

    I get a kick out of pundits who talk about a “running” QB, and the concern of them getting hurt.

    Yet you watch Newton, Vick, Tebow, hell even Steve Young, and the only time they get hurt is in the pocket, and getting blind-sided.

    When they are running, they can brace for the hit, angle off to not get the full brunt, etc.

  309. BewareofRaiders Says:

    Robert Turbin is a big guy. Ran 4.4 if we could land him and bush walks why not get him

  310. YoungAmerican Says:

    Turbin and Ganaway are both interesting prospects if Bush walks. Really like Ganaway’s ability as a receiver out of the backfield.

  311. Carl Weathers Says:

    293.Thec Says:
    February 26th, 2012 at 10:06 am
    Raider O Says:
    February 26th, 2012 at 8:43 am
    RG3 is 6′2+, so Why is Dakota calling him a midget?

    ++++++++++

    Drew Bres is 6′0″….Midget tslk is ridiculous…
    If the guy can play height is irrelevant…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Two words, Doug Flutie. Wade Phillips is probably still losing sleep over benching him in the playoffs fro Rob Johnson.

  312. Carl Weathers Says:

    When does free agency begin?? March 13th is it?

  313. Seymour Bush Says:

    I am sure RGIII will work on it and fix it up.
    ==============================

    Tell that to Jamarcus Russell, Quincy Carter or Anthony Wright. Sometimes guys can’t get those problems fixed. But then sometimes guys don’t care to work on it, which isn’t Griffins problem.

  314. redshirt Says:

    “and Mark had to defend himself with that haircut”

    LMAO

  315. redshirt Says:

    Thought i read somewhere that Courtlain Finnegan is an FA… can we snatch him up?

  316. redshirt Says:

    Let Bush walk… has everyone forgotten about Reece?

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