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Wimbley contract a huge burden

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, March 1st, 2012 at 12:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley will earn more than $11 million from the Raiders as a result of the contract he signed a year or so ago. The Raiders aren’t so inclined to watch that figure grow to nearly $30 million.
Hence, general manager Reggie McKenzie is working with McKenzie’s agent, Joe Linta, about a reworked deal that frees up some salary cap room for 2012 and lessens the guaranteed money due Wimbley if he’s still on the Raiders roster as of Mar. 17.
Wimbley’s contract calls for him to earn $11 million in 2012. Of that, $6.5 million is guaranteed, even if the Raiders release him at any time.
ProFootballTalk.com on Thursday learned that things get even worse for the Raiders if they fail to get something done within the next two weeks or so.
The remainder of Wimbley’s 2012 contract ($4.5 million) becomes guaranteed Mar. 17, as does an $11 million salary for 2013 and $2 million of his salary for 2014.
Add up the figures, including Wimbley’s 2011 salary, and that’s the $29 million late owner Al Davis “guaranteed” Wimbley when he gave him the long-term deal last season. In reality, the only guarantee was that Wimbley would see at least $11.2 million of that amount.
How much more, if any, he gets is up to McKenzie and Wimbley.
It’s conceivable that Wimbley will hold firm, force the Raiders to release him, hit free agency and cash in on another mega deal.
One thing seems certain: Wimbley has a tough decision to make between now and Mar. 13, when the Raiders have to be in compliance with the salary cap.
He has said he enjoys playing for the Raiders, who traded for him in 2010. New coach Dennis Allen no doubt would love to have Wimbley as part of his future. Yet, it’s apparent that the marriage won’t move forward without some drastic changes.

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  • Dakota

    Just tell Huff that if he restructures we will bring his drinking buddy Vince Young in for a tryout….and a wonderlic test.

  • Seymour Bush

    Huff is the ultimate Raider soldier though. I’d be shocked if he didn’t restructure.
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    I thought Huff just signed a new deal last year.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Not one defensive player made a big enough play or put the team on there back in that last SD game to say f’k that we goin to win this game an make the playoffs. Not a ONE. That’s y my take on tyvon is what it is. Keep him get him sone decent money. An then he can go on an prove he should have been paid more.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    So let’s try this on:

    FS: Branch
    SS: Mitchell
    Backup S: Underwood

    LCB: Porter/Carr/FA-to-be-named
    RCB: Huff
    Slot CB: Chekwa and/or DVD

  • Dakota

    Huff at CB?

    McKenzie is smarter than that.

  • r8eray

    Dakota Says:
    March 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    Just tell Huff that if he restructures we will bring his drinking buddy Vince Young in for a tryout….and a wonderlic test.

    ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    BFF’s on Twitter!!

  • J Hill

    I’m ready to see Branch at FS.

    I like the fact that he turned himself into a film room junkie.

    I’m guessing I’m still in the minority with me thinking that Huff can play corner for us. Especially since we won’t be playing nearly as much island man.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Dakota Says:
    March 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    Huff at CB?

    McKenzie is smarter than that.

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    Remember that we’re running zone defenses now, where pure speed at CB isn’t as important.

  • priesttj

    You people in here are so freaking laughable it’s beyond ridiculous. You think finding players is easy as if ONLY the RAIDERS are looking for them. You think cutting everyone is the answer. There are 31 other teams bidding for their services which affects the price tag.

    What makes you guys think good or great players are going to come here JUST BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO!!!

    Great players demand large contracts whether y’all realize it or not. ANYONE better than Wimbley is probably LOCKED UP!! Not to mention the contracts they will command.

    You cannot just cut players with NO ONE to replace them with and just say “get someone else” WHOOO??? Players of Wimbleys talents aren’t walking the streets or else we would HAVE THEM and he would already be CUUTTT!! Get a freaking clue PLEASE!!

  • J Hill

    I’m not feeling Mitchell as a starter.

    We need to draft another S in rd 4 (comp pick).

  • Dakota

    Boy, when our D has to remove Huff from the field it will be quite a tell to the offense that we are about to play man to man lol.

  • J Hill

    My man Priest is in the house!

    Ima sit back and watch the ole vet school y’all.

  • Just Win Baby

    If I was Wimbley, I wouldn’t restructure. I’d take my 6.5 million dollar severence package and sign another big contract somewhere else. He will get it. Everyone says, “It’s a business” when the owners and GMs dump a guy from the roster. That, my friends, is a two way street. Cha-ching!!

  • DutchRaider77

    Special Day!
    Welcome back Priest!

  • Dakota

    159.priesttj Says:
    March 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    You people in here are so freaking laughable it’s beyond ridiculous. You think finding players is easy as if ONLY the RAIDERS are looking for them. You think cutting everyone is the answer. There are 31 other teams bidding for their services which affects the price tag.

    What makes you guys think good or great players are going to come here JUST BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO!!!

    Great players demand large contracts whether y’all realize it or not. ANYONE better than Wimbley is probably LOCKED UP!! Not to mention the contracts they will command.

    You cannot just cut players with NO ONE to replace them with and just say “get someone else” WHOOO??? Players of Wimbleys talents aren’t walking the streets or else we would HAVE THEM and he would already be CUUTTT!! Get a freaking clue PLEASE!!
    +++++++++++++

    So Priest, first nice to see you back!

    Next, are you crazy? Wimbley is a limited one-dimensional player about to lock in a guaranteed $30 million over the next three years if we don’t cut him soon, and he has been unwilling to renegotiate….if he will not change that bad contract, then of course he will be cut.

    Ahhhh it is nice to have Priest back!

  • RaiderDebo

    159.priesttj Says:
    March 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    You people in here are so freaking laughable it’s beyond ridiculous. You think finding players is easy as if ONLY the RAIDERS are looking for them. You think cutting everyone is the answer. There are 31 other teams bidding for their services which affects the price tag.

    What makes you guys think good or great players are going to come here JUST BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO!!!

    Great players demand large contracts whether y’all realize it or not. ANYONE better than Wimbley is probably LOCKED UP!! Not to mention the contracts they will command.

    You cannot just cut players with NO ONE to replace them with and just say “get someone else” WHOOO??? Players of Wimbleys talents aren’t walking the streets or else we would HAVE THEM and he would already be CUUTTT!! Get a freaking clue PLEASE!!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Post of the day.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    PRIEST

    WHATS man good to have you back.

  • J Hill

    ANYONE better than Wimbley is probably LOCKED UP!! Not to mention the contracts they will command.

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    Well, I think you need to direct some of this to the GM. There are some obvious talents that Wimbley brings to the team, but that’s not the question. It’simply about the “out of whack” contract, in the GMs opinion.

  • hwnrdr

    81.R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 1st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    ?? isnt Bart Scott from the Jets a F.A.
    do you think he is worth a look ??

    I heard he wants to go back to Baltimore

  • priesttj

    Maybe we need to replace Reggie McKenzie with the geniuses in here since they see it as so easy to fix. Yeah that’s right maybe Mck has passed his prime like the old man. Let some of you guys run the team and cut everybody and start over with highschool kids we don’t have to pay……sure!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Jhill
    what’s up bro. How’s that socal weather?

  • hwnrdr

    159.priesttj Says:
    March 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    You people in here are so freaking laughable it’s beyond ridiculous. You think finding players is easy as if ONLY the RAIDERS are looking for them. You think cutting everyone is the answer. There are 31 other teams bidding for their services which affects the price tag.

    What makes you guys think good or great players are going to come here JUST BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO!!!

    Great players demand large contracts whether y’all realize it or not. ANYONE better than Wimbley is probably LOCKED UP!! Not to mention the contracts they will command.

    You cannot just cut players with NO ONE to replace them with and just say “get someone else” WHOOO??? Players of Wimbleys talents aren’t walking the streets or else we would HAVE THEM and he would already be CUUTTT!! Get a freaking clue PLEASE!!

    Priest…welcome back!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Priest why you trippin bro. Wimbleys contract does need to be re done.
    An if he chooses not to then that’s on him. Do you not agree?

  • Hardline

    Wembley had 7 sacks last year and Jared Allen had 22. 4 of Wenbley’s sacks came against underperforming SD is the first game. Allen’s salary was as follows:

    base pay signing bonus

    8,979,438 2,583,333 – 11,562,771

    Wenbley’s sack production was 1/3rd of Allen’s yet at the same rate of pay. If you subtract the 4 sacks Wembley made against SD playing with a horrific defense, Wembley’s sack production was 1/7th of Allen’s. Also, in the last five games Wembley did little although he did make an interception.

  • hendu

    Priesttj,myself and Pete Franklin welcome you back,RAIDERS!!!!!

  • uglyorc

    If that’s correct then not only will the yet to be paid 4.5 million be guaranteed on March 17, but also 11 million in 2013 and 2 more in 2014 if he’s still on the roster March 17th this year?

    If so, Wimbley is gone. I dont think he really wants to be a Raider anyway. He forced Al’s hand and now he’ll force McKenzie’s. I’d be shocked if he agreed to a restructure with less guaranteed money. Instead he’ll take our 6.5 million and then go take money from another team. With some teams way below the minimum cap that starts in 2013, he’ll find a new sucker.

  • joker94583

    Yeah how about that delusional senile Al now. Seriously? $29 million due by 2013 guaranteed? Even $6.5 million on top of his salary for 2011 is a joke. No wonder he loves being a Raider. Seymour and his contract are a joke. Dang it could take 3-5 years for McKenzie to clean up Al’s mess. Al screwed this team good. Jamarcus anyone? D. Hall? Seymour? Routt? C’mon man!

  • UCLA Raiders

    How in the world a contract like Wimbley’s gets signed? This proves AD had lost his touch w reality. All world LB Willis gets $10m per year and then AD gives more to Wimbley.
    I like Wimbley but he’s no Willis. He should get $5M per year.

  • UCLA Raiders

    Joker94583 Says:
    March 1st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
    Yeah how about that delusional senile Al now. Seriously? $29 million due by 2013 guaranteed? Even $6.5 million on top of his salary for 2011 is a joke. No wonder he loves being a Raider. Seymour and his contract are a joke. Dang it could take 3-5 years for McKenzie to clean up Al’s mess. Al screwed this team good. Jamarcus anyone? D. Hall? Seymour? Routt? C’mon man!
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    Don’t forget Javon Walker. Another AD masterpiece signing.

  • alzadoX

    Wimbley is good and improving and has potential to be great, but way overpaid. At the right price I’d love to have him back but Al paid guys on potential. Aside from money issues, there is the anti-motivator effect, for the team and the player, when players get big paydays before they earn them. The consistent NFL teams have their player salary budget priorities straight.

    The last time we won was when Gruden convinced vets to sign at bargain rates and picked the right players.

    The cap is an accounting issue and it’s true that it can be mitigated but it is a real issue. Sure, the accounting department can make things more palatable but when we have these huge long term guaranteed contracts that Al gave out it is a hinderance to building the team we need to do better than 8-8. Jerry says you can endlessly redo the contracts to get under the cap, and you can, but you end up dragging the contracts out longer and you often end up where we’re at.

    Wimbley is inconsistent and does disappear at times but he is a great athlete, 28 years old, still improving with only 2 years as a 4-3 LB with pass coverage responsibilities, has done well at times setting the edge on runs and has made some big plays in pass defense while he’s learning there, obviously can blitz, and seems like a smart guy with his head screwed on straight. I’ll bet the new coaches would love to work with him. If he wants to stay he’ll compromise on the money, if not he can take the 11.2 million guaranteed and sign for what he’s worth with another team. I would think he’s worth about 5 million a year, but if Routt got 6.5 million maybe Wimbley will get 8. We need to decide what he’s worth to us, and if he agrees to cut pay to something near what he’s worth then we save the 11.2 million guarantee and bring him back. Otherwise, goodbye and good luck Only all pros should get 10.5 million a year

    As far as Joe Barksdale playing LG, he didn’t look comfortable there last year when they tried him (albeit without much preparation). He looks like a tackle to me. So does Campbell. However, in zone blocking scheme they could work out at guard. I have some question whether Barksdale will be a good fit for zone blocking scheme. He looked like a good tackle prospect in last year’s blocking scheme