Raiders WR situation in flux
By Steve Corkran
Monday, March 5th, 2012 at 6:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Derek Hagan and Denarius Moore managed to crack the Raiders 53-man roster last season based on strong showings in training camp and exhibition games. Moore is a lock for the 2012 team. Hagan ultimately was released, and signed with the Buffalo Bills.
For now, the Raiders have Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Moore and Louis Murphy under contract. That leaves one or two spots to be filled, assuming the Raiders don’t re-sign free-agents-to-be Chaz Schilens and/or T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
In a perfect world, the Raiders would go after a big-name receiver such as Vincent Jackson, who escaped the franchise tag and is headed for unrestricted free agency.
In Jackson, the Raiders would get a legitimate No. 1 target for quarterback Carson Palmer and someone who would take off pressure from the other receivers.
The Raiders also wouldn’t have to worry about covering Jackson twice a year any longer as they have the past seven seasons when he starred for the San Diego Chargers.
Some feel as if the Raiders are set at receiver. Problem is, that’s based on Heyward-Bey’s breakout season in 2011 and the potential of Ford and Moore. None has accomplished in a season what Jackson has several times during his NFL career.
Three times, Jackson amassed at least 1,098 yards in a season, and he has averaged a gaudy 17.5 yards per reception for his career. Make no mistake, the Raiders aren’t set at receiver and there’s room for a receiver with Jackson’s skill set.
It’s possible that Heyward-Bey, Moore or Ford one day will reach such a level. That’s the predicament facing general manager Reggie McKenzie, projecting what he has vs. what he needs from his receivers.
Signing a big-time receiver such as Jackson won’t come cheaply. The Raiders aren’t flush with salary-cap room and aren’t in a position to compete with some teams loaded with cap room. However, it can be done, as long as Jackson is willing to take more money in latter years, beginning in 2013.
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March 5th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Raider!
March 5th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
#1
March 5th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
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Well lets get one
March 5th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I don’t think the Raiders will throw out big money for a WR, if any big money at all.
March 5th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Not gonna happen…….it would be cool if it did. We haven’t had a legitimate #1 WR in years.
March 5th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
kind of a dumb post. imo, of all positions we need to throw money at, wr isnt even top 5
March 5th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Steve’s crazy! Adding Jackson would only slow D.Moore, J. Ford, L.Murphy’s & DHB’s Growth at the WR position.
I for 1 feel we don’t need to add any WR’s!
I Miss Jerry!
March 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I ran into Jackson once down here in San Diego. I got weird when I asked if I could touch his biceps.
March 5th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
kind of a dumb post. imo, of all positions we need to throw money at, wr isnt even top 5
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You have to consider the writer. The same guy that would put the franchise tag on Bush, trade McFadden, cut DHB, and throw Hagan in the starting lineup.
March 5th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Steve should have put editorial in parenthesis, nonetheless, I think adding Jackson would be a genius move by Reggie McKenzie, and, Steve, you deserve credit for putting it out there. Here’s the deal, the Raiders need a complete transformation on defense, from the overall culture, to finding the right players who can come in and get with the program. This is no easy task. So, why not add a proven stud at wr in Jackson to an already explosive offense? Jackson would guarantee this offense a spot in the top 5, and with that, we could hope that our offense could carry the team while the D finds its way throughout the year. Steve also makes a great point about taking Jackson away from the Chargers. It’s a win-win, Reggie. Make it happen.
March 5th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
El Dirty Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I ran into Jackson once down here in San Diego. I got weird when I asked if I could touch his biceps.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
March 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I have to say defense first, then worry about a No. 1 WR. Another year and we might already have one, or two
March 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
On Next Tuesday, March 6, 2012 @ 5:30pm, the Oakland City Council will meet. The last item on their agenda sometime after 6:30pm is to vote on whether to pay the Developers & the Environmental Impact Report for “Coliseum City”, the new stadiums for the Warriors, A’s & RAIDERS as well as a Mall and Business Park next to the Oakland Air Port. Oakland has the oldest professional sports stadiums in the country & if new ones are not built than all 3 Pro-Sports teams may leave Oakland by 2017.
But they are more than sports teams to Oakland & Alameda Co. They are an industry that employs 1000s of people & raise $100,000s of charity $’s for our city every year. Our pro athletes visit sick children in the hospital every week, but most of all the Pro-sport team advertise our city to the world & give people another image of Oakland besides the former murder capital of the world. If all 3 teams left Oakland, 111 year tradition of Pro-sports in Oakland would be gone forever, & it would be sad & devastating to Oakland. If you want the A’s, Warriors & Raiders to stay in Oakland, come to the Oakland City Council meeting next Tuesday in the City Council Chambers, – 3rd Floor at Oakland City Hall, located at 1 Frank H. Ogawa Plaza, Oakland, California 94612. Wear A’s, Warriors & Raiders Colors & let the city council know that you want your teams to stay & contribute to our community.
Check out this link to watch last weeks city council meeting about Coliseum City
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20762899
March 5th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Isn’t V Jax on probation for the 2 DUIs he got in one year? Also, he held out on the Chargers for most of a season.
He wants BIG money Oakland may not have it.
Have a great night everyone and Go Raiders!
March 5th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
While there is no denying Vincent Jackson is a stellar talent and another big receiver we could certainly use, he’s more of a weirdo than mistress biachi. Do you really want that here?
March 5th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Guys like Lee Evans are more in our price range me thinks…
Go Raiders!
March 5th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Think Schilens deserves another shot. His cardio wasn’t up to par after 2 straight season on the bench.
One more year at around League minimum if he survives camp.
March 5th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
“However, it can be done, as long as Jackson is willing to take more money in latter years, beginning in 2013.”
Another “WTF is Corky talking about?” moment.
Why would Jackson give the Raiders what ultimately would be a hometown discount? No player is going to take less money up front to come to Oakland.
Another ridiculous writeup by Corky the Mouthbreather.
March 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Corky keeps re-fluxing the same garbage week after week.
I thought he was cut last week, in this time of changes, Raider fans must have something a lot sharper than Corks. We sure deserve a lot better than this.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
OAK started talks with LB Kamerion Wimbley to restructure his deal. If new contract not struck, he’ll be released despite $6.5M guar in ‘12
March 5th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
To me, forget Vincent Jackson, forget Kam Wimbley and put your money on Mario Williams.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I like Wimbley, but the bottom line is do you want to stay a Raider? If not, then fck it. You’re not a Raider anymore.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
We don’t need any new WR’s. The are much larger needs to be addressed first like NT, WSLB, SSLB, CB & FS. If need be we can try to see if TJones or DAusberry can run out of the WR position. TJones could be a Wes Welker type out of the slot and DAusberry could run out of the X or Y position.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
I’d stand pat at receiver. No need to get in the way of these young guys. Let Moore, Ford, DHB and Murphy play. Wouldn’t mind resigning Chaz as well. Then just bring in a guy, either rookie or veteran, who is a special teams maven who can fill in at WR if needed.
Speaking of WRs, I do like that Hill kid from Georgia Tech who blew up the combine. He just has the look of something special.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
In a perfect world, the Raiders would go after a big-name receiver such as Vincent Jackson, who escaped the franchise tag and is headed for unrestricted free agency.
In Jackson, the Raiders would get a legitimate No. 1 target for quarterback Carson Palmer
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We got the best legit #1 in the league: Denarius Moore, and DHB is legit. Ford, Schilens and TJ Hooz aint bad either.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
SLB doesn’t need to be addressed. The Raiders’ three starting LBs are all SLBs.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Some one keeps stealing my handle. Dont believe anything you’ve read from me.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
The Raiders need edge rushers. Wimbley is fine, but his production just did not match the enormous contract. Getting Shaughnessy back as well will certainly help, but getting a good edge rusher will help this defense 100%.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
SLB doesn’t need to be addressed. The Raiders’ three starting LBs are all SLBs.
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I disagree. Wimbley will be gone and Curry is crap in coverage. I believe we will be switching to a 3-4 and given that I’d move Curry inside as a blitzing?run stuffing ILB next to Romac who would be the coverage/run stuffing ILB. That means we need at a minimum, 2 new OLB.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
The Dischargers are quietly having an interesting off season. McNeil is done, Castillo done, Vincent Jackson done, their team has been going backwards. Sounds like it is time for the rebuild for them.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
I disagree. Wimbley will be gone and Curry is crap in coverage. I believe we will be switching to a 3-4 and given that I’d move Curry inside as a blitzing?run stuffing ILB next to Romac who would be the coverage/run stuffing ILB. That means we need at a minimum, 2 new OLB.
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Agree if we’re talking 3-4 rush linebackers. SLB, however, implies 4-3 strongside linebacker. Curry is a 4-3 SLB, Wimbley is a 4-3 SLB, and McClain’s skill set is better suited to 4-3 SLB than 4-3 MLB.
Curry may very well be cut, too. None of his salary is guaranteed.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Worst WR’s in the NFL right here in Oakland. But we also have the worst Defense and that is the most glaring need. Can’t afford Jackson at the expense of the D.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I know many are high on Moore, and we have seen that when he shines, he shines. I too like the kid. However, perhaps what we saw during his rookie year is more realistic of what he truly is going to be instead of evolving into 16 full games of shine. I hope I am wrong, but it is a possibility. He is slight of build, so unless he can add weight in the weight room, he may also have some injury issues. A cheap, reliable vet receiver that has some size is not a bad thing, particularly if we are running any semblence of a west coast offense. At this point, Jackson is more of a luxury than a necessity with all of the defensive question marks.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Come on Corkran. You speak with fork tongue. You keep harping that the Raiders don’t have any play makers on defense. Your answer is to sign VJAX. I agree with the previous posts. Give the young dudes the ball and sign some “play makers” on defense. In a perfect world(with no salary cap) I’d sign Jackson to, whatever. Come on, jack ball. Be consistent in your analysis.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I’d rather see us sign a run stuffing linebacker.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
I disagree. Wimbley will be gone and Curry is crap in coverage. I believe we will be switching to a 3-4 and given that I’d move Curry inside as a blitzing?run stuffing ILB next to Romac who would be the coverage/run stuffing ILB. That means we need at a minimum, 2 new OLB.
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Agree if we’re talking 3-4 rush linebackers. SLB, however, implies 4-3 strongside linebacker. Curry is a 4-3 SLB, Wimbley is a 4-3 SLB, and McClain’s skill set is better suited to 4-3 SLB than 4-3 MLB.
Curry may very well be cut, too. None of his salary is guaranteed.
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We are thinking alike. Romac is definitely not a 4-3 MLB. He IS better suited as a 4-3 SSLB or a 3-4 ILB. I do expect Wimbley to refuse to redo his contract & therefore released. Curry would be beter at 4-3 SSLB or a blitzing ILB in a 3-4. I DO think he will renegotiate and will play for us in 2012. The things he does do well, like pass rushing & run stuffing should be emphasized from an ILB spot in a 3-4. He does seem to make Romac play better when he’s in there next to him. Those two in the middle in a 3-4 might work out very well. The OLB positions are another concern.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Aaron Curry played well for us. I too think he should be moved inside, but can’t really complain much about Aaron Curry.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
I hope Curry restructures, too. Limited as a player, but he works hard and playing ILB in 3-4 looks will help hide his shortcomings.
Still, his contract is low-hanging fruit if the Raiders find themselves running out of options to ease their financial situation.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
I don’t really understand the major criticism of Curry. He came in midseason and put forth a lot of energy and generally played well. Maybe everyone thought Curry was going to come here throw on a Raider charger and instantly turn into Lawrence Taylor. If there is a problem with run defense you can look directly at McClain and the secondary, mainly Mitchell.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Not a whole lot of options for the Raiders at 3-4 OLB.
A few guys who MIGHT fall to the Raiders at their first compensatory pick are Shea McClellin and Bruce Irvin, but I expect them to be late 2nd/early 3rd round picks. Jake Bequette might be available, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see him go in the early 3rd. Brandon Lindsey, Audie Cole, and Miles Burris could be late-round options, but the Raiders couldn’t expect them to start right away.
If the Raiders are forced to cut Wimbley, they might emphasize the 4-3 in 2012.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
The knocks on Curry are his instincts (tends to overpursue the play v.s. the run), lack of pass rushing ability, and that he is a liability in coverage.
Still, he can shed blocks and seal the edge better than any other Raider linebacker. Wrap-up tackler who has the ability to make plays in the open field.
If Wimbley goes and Curry restructures, I would expect Curry to start at 4-3 SLB next season. Very similar skills (although not as polished of a pass-rusher) to Von Miller, so maybe Dennis Allen’s schemes can unlock Curry’s potential.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
@38
Wasn’t Curry miscast up in Seattle in the 3-4? I thought the 4-3 was the fresh start he was looking for. How does the 3-4 mask his shortcomings?
March 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Some of you guys are really downers.
If some of you won the lottery you’d say “yeah, but look at all the taxes I have to pay”.
Take a look at our offensive stats from last year.
Now, consider that the NFL’s leading rusher at the time he went down, was absent for over half of the season and by all reports is healthy and ready to go for this coming yr.
You also had a QB that came in off his couch at home in the middle of the season and WE STILL were one defensive stop away from hosting Pittsburgh for a home playoff game that we most likely would’ve won.
If I based my opinion of the state of our offense on what I read here tonight I would’ve thought we were the worst offense in the league.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Curry’s main shortcoming is his pass coverage. He’s good at 1-2-3-go. He’s not good at changing the mission mid-stream, from rushing to pass covering. He gets lost easily. That’s simply not his forte. Put him in the middle. Tell him to go tackle the ball no matter who has it. If the QB has it, sack him. If the QB hands the ball off, tackle whoever has the ball. If someone is running at him with the ball, stuff him. Those are his strength assignments. Breaking off of those assignments to cover a receiver is where he fails. The answer is put him in the middle and tell him don’t let anybody run past you with the ball. That assignment he can handle well.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
guest123 Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
@38
Wasn’t Curry miscast up in Seattle in the 3-4? I thought the 4-3 was the fresh start he was looking for. How does the 3-4 mask his shortcomings?
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Seattle is a 4-3 team. Curry played SLB, which is the position he played in college.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Sign Mario Williams, release TK/ Henderson/ Wimbley, move Curry to SLB, and add a WLB.
DE: Mario Williams
DT: Houston/ Bryant
DT: Seymour
DE: Matt S
SLB: Curry
MLB: McClain
WLB: Goethel/ FA/ rookie
Bryant should get a lot of snaps rotating inside and outside, add a WLB, and this can be a great front 7 IMO.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Ok thanks, I coulda swore that it was a 3-4 D at one time up there. I was wrong.
March 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
OAK started talks with LB Kamerion Wimbley to restructure his deal. If new contract not struck, he’ll be released despite $6.5M guar in ‘12
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Stranger things have happened. Not sure theres going to be a huge market begging to pay Wimbley Davis dollars.
He might re-sign. U never know till U know.
Have a gr8 night Nation!
March 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I like Curry. Plays with passion. If we can get him Coached up he could start to live up to that lofty draft status.
Could tone down the religion a little. That might get old in the locker room. And on the plane. And in meetings. And at lunch. And pre game and…
Have a gr8 nite Nation!
March 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
The knocks on Curry are his instincts (tends to overpursue the play v.s. the run), lack of pass rushing ability, and that he is a liability in coverage.
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This is true, but his instincts are good, and no one his size is going to cover Wes Welker in the slot. The disappointment for him has been his pass rushing abilities. That’s why he was drafted so highly. Now, Dennis Allen is good at developing those guys. Let’s see what happens there.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Code Black with sirens and flashing lights!
March 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
guest123 Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
@38
Wasn’t Curry miscast up in Seattle in the 3-4? I thought the 4-3 was the fresh start he was looking for. How does the 3-4 mask his shortcomings?
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What Curry said was Pete Carroll had him watching tape all week of his own defense. Curry said he never did that at any level. Normally you want to watch tape of the opponent not yourself. Hopefully we can get him straightened out in the next year. I am pretty positive we can.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I wonder how many Tues/Weds night games on the Lifetime network the NFL will be broadcasting in 2012…
March 5th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I too like this Curry kid. He’s got a better motor for an equal pedigree as Romac. He wants to be a Raider and that’s always good. Kam doesn’t want to be a Raider so goodbye then.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Jackson would be a luxury… a frigging AWESOME luxury, but still one I bet we cannot afford. I am guessing McK spends whatever available FA money on the defense… and gambles that the young WRs keep improving. At least that is what I would do…
March 5th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Schillens is the same height, and would cost a fraction… keep gambling on him, IMO.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I don’t think Jackson is worth the money he will get on the open market. He decides to show up in some games and disappears in others. Too much feast and famine. We already have that in DHB. Pass.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Schilens won’t be in high demand. we should be able to sign him fairly inexpensively. Forget Houshmanzanda. His gas tank is on empty.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Re-sign Shilens and Hagan for vet min.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
I never liked Housyamama. Ever since he spurned us for the Ravens. He’s not a Raider, never was one.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Hagan is already signed with the Bills I believe.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Curry was a 1st team all american. The 4th pick overall in the 2009 draft.
McClain was a high first rounder, all american MLB.
Seymour is a highly touted, perennial all pro with 3 SB rings.
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With guys like this on D, you wouldn’t think we would be so darn pathetic?
March 5th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Why does steve have a chubby for a WR? First Colston now Jackson… I understand wanting to stray from the main topic, “defense”, but at least make it something we haven’t already buried.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Schillens is the kind of under-the -radar signings we were sold that McK will bring as a new change. Jackson is an Al-like signing.
Nobody else wants Chaz… and I bet he wants to stay a Raider. This is kind of a litmus test for me with Mck.
An oft injured 6′ 4″ receiver with great hands that nobody else knows about.. keep him McK!
March 5th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Be realistic we can’t afford Mario, or v Jackson get over it, scratch Stevie Johnson, and lunch to lol wet lil dreams, be more realistic lofton, finnegin, ya know.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Why does steve have a chubby for a WR? First Colston now Jackson…
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Probably because before the last season started Corkran announced DHB 9th on the depth chart. 1000 yards later…
March 5th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
I mean marshon lynch
March 5th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I rely on Cork for a lot of great info and opinions, but I agree he might be off on this. We need playmakers on defense more than a veteran WR. He bangs on the lack of playmakers all the time… not sure why he falls off the beam here.
The offense was fine with these WR’s last year. The defense was a GREASE FIRE.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Don’t know why Steve keeps on pushing the WR talk…I think we’re good on that!
Dump Wimbley and get Super Mario and Finnegin….and we’ll be set!
March 5th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Lofton and Finnegan are both going to get PAID.
If we’re being realistic? The Raiders’ options are Tracy Porter, Richard Marshall, Barrett Ruud, Wesley Woodyard, Joe Mays, Anthony Adams, Aubrayo Franklin, Antonio Garay, etc.. In other words, nothing flashy.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I used to always get a charge out of hearing the Raiders mentioned when they’d talk about big time free agents and where they might go.
Now, I hear that little turd, dweeb, John Clayton talk about Vincent Jackson and mention pretty much everybody BUT the Raiders.
This is the first time in a long time that we hear NOTHING about the Raiders being in the running for ANYTHING.
I admit, i miss that. That was part of the fun of being a Raider fan for me.
It made the offseason interesting; wondering what Al would do cuz he’d always do something to make u go “Wow. We got THAT guy”.
Raiders used to be mentioned as a possibility for almost every big name FA out there. Now…we are like the poor trailer trash who don’t have a pot to pee in.
It might not have been sound, reasonable, level-headed management..but it was always interesting and fun.
Sue me. A part of me misses that.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
ELWAYs TEETH Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Not gonna happen…….it would be cool if it did. We haven’t had a legitimate #1 WR in years.
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Poor JaMarcus.
March 5th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I bet if Steve were asked “If you were in the NFL, what position would you play?”
Steve: Wide Receiver
“If you were a GM (like a Matt Millen) what position would you draft with your 1st pick?”
Steve: Wide Receiver
“And with your 2nd pick?”
Steve: Wide Receiver
“What position would you build your team around?”
Steve: Wide Receiver
March 5th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I miss Al too. He was the most interesting man in the NFL. He wasn’t always right, but when he was, the Raiders won SBs.
RIP AL!
March 5th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
64.Gdog Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Schillens is the kind of under-the -radar signings we were sold that McK will bring as a new change. Jackson is an Al-like signing.
Nobody else wants Chaz… and I bet he wants to stay a Raider. This is kind of a litmus test for me with Mck.
An oft injured 6′ 4″ receiver with great hands that nobody else knows about.. keep him McK!
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With Schilens, did he ever really have any balls thrown to him?
We talk about how many catches a receiver makes etc. but a QB has to actually attempt to throw it in his direction.
I don’t recall many drops from Schilens.
Is he that horrible of a route runner?
March 5th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Dang Dawgs
Your boi Beeech Diggity Dawg just got muy loco on a Taco Bell grande meal and is feeling the call of ye ol Montezuma.
Gonna line the inside of my tighty whities with an old Frito bag just to be safe.
Hopefully this will lead to some tight lyrics, because it’s only 4 days until our San Diego tour and I gots to lay it down.
And I’m not talking about a huge duece, but an epic reggae performance.
Hopefully this Gatorade and Southern Comfort smoothy will kick in soon
PEACE OUT TO BIGGIE SMALLS MI MUCHACHO
March 5th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
74.Raider O Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I miss Al too. He was the most interesting man in the NFL. He wasn’t always right, but when he was, the Raiders won SBs.
RIP AL!
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I guess with Al I always thought we would find a way to get whomever we wanted.
I always figured he’d spend his own personal stash if he had to.
This is foreign territory with us talking about how we can’t even afford ONE big name player.
I never felt like a pauper with Al.
I’m excited about a new regime and what it will bring. Mostly on the D side.
Just to see a defense that can make a stop.
But…I feel like are the welfare family as opposed to the eccentric rich kids.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
We’ll be allright with our receivers everyone will be focus on mcfadden, we need to worry about our defence this year!
March 5th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
NO to V Jax!
There are others out there who can put up the same numbers, for the same or less money:
Pierre Garcon
Reggie Wayne
Mario Manningham
Meachem
Colston
Eddie Royal
and so on…
Yes, it would be nice to add a veteran WR with great hands…but not if he’ll be suspended the next time he stubs a toe in public.
V Jax is a very dangerous, big-money contract to add. Let some other team add it to their payroll. Go after somebody who doesn’t like to party quite SO much…who’s not staring down the barrel of a season-long suspension for his party ways.
And…spend NO draft picks on a WR this season. Bring in veteran/undrafted Free Agents to fill any void. A front-line, proven VETERAN WR with great hands is exactly what this O could use.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
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Two for the road
Three to get ready
And I’m droppin my load
IN DA HOUSE WIT DA SHIZZLE GRIZZLE GRIZZLE
March 5th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
#79,
Any suggestions?
March 5th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Raiders used to be mentioned as a possibility for almost every big name FA out there. Now…we are like the poor trailer trash who don’t have a pot to pee in.
It might not have been sound, reasonable, level-headed management..but it was always interesting and fun.
Sue me. A part of me misses that.
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Maybe you’ll learn to appreciate winning football, instead.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Duece on Display Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Yo Diggity Blog Dogs,
Got a duecer for the Smithsonian. Been pounding so much Taco Bell that it got me thinking. Goin for the worlds record. So I’m preparing like there ain’t no tomorrow.
So as I squat and ponder, it got me thinking.
One for the the money
Two for the road
Three to get ready
And I’m droppin my load
IN DA HOUSE WIT DA SHIZZLE GRIZZLE GRIZZLE
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Excellent work, my minion. Carry the Beeech Diggity Dawg’s message far and wide.
PROPS TO THE MAC MIGGITY RUN DMCIGGITY
March 5th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
But…I feel like are the welfare family as opposed to the eccentric rich kids.
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LOL
I understand. This is a good year for FA. Mario, V Jackson, P Manning, etc.. Al wouldn’t be able to resist the urge to shop.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Raiders WR situation in flux
By Steve Corkran
Monday, March 5th, 2012 at 6:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Derek Hagan and Denarius Moore managed to crack the Raiders 53-man roster last season based on strong showings in training camp and exhibition games. Moore is a lock for the 2012 team. Hagan ultimately was released, and signed with the Buffalo Bills.
For now, the Raiders have Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Moore and Louis Murphy under contract. That leaves one or two spots to be filled, assuming the Raiders don’t re-sign free-agents-to-be Chaz Schilens and/or T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
In a perfect world, the Raiders would go after a big-name receiver such as Vincent Jackson, who escaped the franchise tag and is headed for unrestricted free agency.
In Jackson, the Raiders would get a legitimate No. 1 target for quarterback Carson Palmer and someone who would take off pressure from the other receivers.
The Raiders also wouldn’t have to worry about covering Jackson twice a year any longer as they have the past seven seasons when he starred for the San Diego Chargers.
Some feel as if the Raiders are set at receiver. Problem is, that’s based on Heyward-Bey’s breakout season in 2011 and the potential of Ford and Moore. None has accomplished in a season what Jackson has several times during his NFL career.
Three times, Jackson amassed at least 1,098 yards in a season, and he has averaged a gaudy 17.5 yards per reception for his career. Make no mistake, the Raiders aren’t set at receiver and there’s room for a receiver with Jackson’s skill set.
It’s possible that Heyward-Bey, Moore or Ford one day will reach such a level. That’s the predicament facing general manager Reggie McKenzie, projecting what he has vs. what he needs from his receivers.
Signing a big-time receiver such as Jackson won’t come cheaply. The Raiders aren’t flush with salary-cap room and aren’t in a position to compete with some teams loaded with cap room. However, it can be done, as long as Jackson is willing to take more money in latter years, beginning in 2013.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/03/05/raiders-wr-situation-in-flux/
March 5th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
March 5th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Maybe you’ll learn to appreciate winning football, instead.
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Oh, I will.
I’m just speaking to my own selfish wishes for an interesting off season.
I acknowledge that few of those FA splashes had the results that were hyped.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Either Mario Manningham or Reggie Wayne would be my preference.
Manningham, Colston or Meachem all would make the O much more explosive — the passing game would be unbelievably flammable.
Reggie Wayne’s the only “slow” and/or old guy I’d consider adding — great hands, great moves, and great football mind. He’ll make any O better instantly.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
djohnnyg Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Maybe you’ll learn to appreciate winning football, instead.
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Oh, I will.
I’m just speaking to my own selfish wishes for an interesting off season.
I acknowledge that few of those FA splashes had the results that were hyped.
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Hey, if we get a defense that can stop a 99 and 1/2 yard drive I’ll feel like the entire makeover was worth the wait. One consistent factor that always plagued the Raiders for the last 10 years was bad defense. Defense that normally you’d see by the curb waiting for waste management. Any improvement in the D is the only wish cause you know we are just fine on the O side of the ball. I’m just excited to know that the big wheels are turning and every effort is gonna be made to bury last years nightmare of a defense. Last year our defense was skank.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Is that you…Steve?
March 5th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Just saw on NFLN that Drew Brees is “livid” about NO franchising him and has said he will NOT sign that deal. According to LaCanfora.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Master Beeecham – you have got to be the biggest poser alive.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Just saw on NFLN that Drew Brees is “livid” about NO franchising him and has said he will NOT sign that deal. According to LaCanfora.
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He helped make that team and know he will tear it apart. Just watch.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
*now, not know
March 5th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
#94,
Not a great day to be a Saints fan is it?
March 5th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
No, sir.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
If the league drags Dennis Allen into this so called ‘bounty hunting’ charade, they better drag Sara-goosa into the mix because he clearly flattened Ganon and disabled him and didn’t even get a flag. How messed up is that. So let the witch hunt begin, not a scape goat fest, but a real mud slinging purse swinging cat fight. Or, the league could just sweep it under the rug and not tarnish its global image in the name of business. They got a real messy situation brewin in there.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
duece time
March 5th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
V Jackson would make a lot of fans happy, Palmer would be better also.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
V Jackson would make a lot of fans happy, Palmer would be better also.
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Agreed! Memo to RegMac: Don’t leave out the Offense in your house cleaning of the D. Just one addition to the offense would be fine.
March 5th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Love the talent…not the Player. Purely in a business sense, of course.
Palmer would be just as happy with a MManningham or RWayne added to his young group of budding stars.
March 5th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/03/03/SP091NFQPL.DTL
All over the NFL, players are yawning, shrugging and rolling their eyes.
The commissioner’s office revealed Friday that the New Orleans Saints, under the direction of defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, ran a bounty program that paid cash rewards for injuring opponents. The league will have to hit both the Saints and Williams hard, just to make a point. But the worst fines, suspensions and draft-pick losses won’t touch the culture of the game, and the players know it.
They’re observing the fallout from the news with amusement, shocked only by the naivete and hypocrisy of outraged outsiders. Violence, however it’s encouraged, is not a secret ingredient in the NFL. This sausage factory holds nationally televised tours every fall weekend.
When the Saints clobbered Brett Favre repeatedly in the NFC title game two years ago, the promise of a $1,500 to $10,000 underground bonus would only have reinforced much larger messages about aggression. Knocking out Favre, or scrambling his body enough to minimize his talent, meant a trip to the Super Bowl for the Saints, each of whom earned an extra $83,000 when the team took the Lombardi Trophy. Just getting to the big game and losing would have meant $43,000 a head.
The Saints didn’t deliver obviously dirty hits in that game, but they played as if they didn’t care about penalties. They drew nine flags for 88 yards, and flirted with many more. They’d hit Favre a millisecond late, daring the refs to make the call, and most of the time, it didn’t happen. Did they push those boundaries for a few extra thousand bucks, or because they believed that the officials couldn’t call a penalty on every other play in a championship game?
The 49ers who complained about the Saints’ incessant blitzing in last season’s exhibition opener, a breach of protocol in a meaningless game, may feel vindicated now. They took some heat for objecting to the strategy, and the league’s report suggests that the Saints encouraged thoroughly gratuitous violence. But if Williams believes in relentless intimidation, eliminating his cash incentives won’t make much of a difference.
The NFL cited only the three years that Williams worked in New Orleans, but some of his former players from Washington – including the Redskins’ current director of player development, Phillip Daniels – have confirmed that bounties were paid there, too.
“I think it is wrong the way they’re trying to paint (Williams),” Daniels told the Washington Post. “He never told us to go out there and break a guy’s neck or break a guy’s leg. It was all in the context of good, hard football.”
Another former Redskin, defensive back Matt Bowen, stood up for Williams, while acknowledging the bounties, in a column for the Chicago Tribune.
“Money came in for more than watching a guy leave the field,” he wrote. “We earned extra for interceptions, sacks and forced fumbles. … Money jumped in the playoffs. A bigger stage equaled more coin. … That’s the truth. I can’t sugarcoat this. It was a system we all bought into. I ate it up.”
More players, who never worked with Williams, have stepped forward and said that their teams funded similar off-the-books bonuses for big plays. Sometimes older players provided the cash, or kangaroo-court fines covered the tab. In the Saints’ case, Williams has been accused of throwing in some of his own money, which would constitute a violation of the salary cap. The bonuses would also break a rule about incentive payments.
The NFL takes all of that seriously, but the investigation into the Saints was certainly spurred more by the league’s concern for safety, which has been dramatically enhanced by former players heading to court to challenge what the league knew about head injuries and kept to itself.
The public disclosure of the investigation seems admirable, but once Williams left the Saints for the Rams, the league had little choice. He had become the defensive coordinator under Jeff Fisher, who played for and coached under Buddy Ryan, the best-known proponent of bounty-hunting in football before Williams. Someone was bound to start talking to the media if the NFL didn’t do it first.
The punishment will have to be severe, but it won’t make the league any safer. Ultimately, almost everyone in the NFL earns his keep by risking his own health and threatening that of others.
Linebacker Ahmad Brooks just signed a lucrative new contract with the 49ers. He forced a fumble this season after his helmet had come off. He left the field, blood oozing from his nose and mouth.
Somehow forgetting the NFL’s new “safety first” posture, coach Jim Harbaugh raved the next day: “Loved it, loved it. Wish he could have come and wiped some (blood) off on my cheek.”
Williams never handed out a bounty worth more than that praise.
March 5th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/03/02/dennis-allen-has-no-comment-on-saints-bounty-program/
And why should he. BFD
March 5th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
85.Raiders WR situation in flux Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Raiders WR situation in flux
By Steve Corkran
Monday, March 5th, 2012 at 6:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Derek Hagan and Denarius Moore managed to crack the Raiders 53-man roster last season based on strong showings in training camp and exhibition games. Moore is a lock for the 2012 team. Hagan ultimately was released, and signed with the Buffalo Bills.
For now, the Raiders have Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Moore and Louis Murphy under contract. That leaves one or two spots to be filled, assuming the Raiders don’t re-sign free-agents-to-be Chaz Schilens and/or T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
In a perfect world, the Raiders would go after a big-name receiver such as Vincent Jackson, who escaped the franchise tag and is headed for unrestricted free agency.
In Jackson, the Raiders would get a legitimate No. 1 target for quarterback Carson Palmer and someone who would take off pressure from the other receivers.
The Raiders also wouldn’t have to worry about covering Jackson twice a year any longer as they have the past seven seasons when he starred for the San Diego Chargers.
Some feel as if the Raiders are set at receiver. Problem is, that’s based on Heyward-Bey’s breakout season in 2011 and the potential of Ford and Moore. None has accomplished in a season what Jackson has several times during his NFL career.
Three times, Jackson amassed at least 1,098 yards in a season, and he has averaged a gaudy 17.5 yards per reception for his career. Make no mistake, the Raiders aren’t set at receiver and there’s room for a receiver with Jackson’s skill set.
It’s possible that Heyward-Bey, Moore or Ford one day will reach such a level. That’s the predicament facing general manager Reggie McKenzie, projecting what he has vs. what he needs from his receivers.
Signing a big-time receiver such as Jackson won’t come cheaply. The Raiders aren’t flush with salary-cap room and aren’t in a position to compete with some teams loaded with cap room. However, it can be done, as long as Jackson is willing to take more money in latter years, beginning in 2013.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/03/05/raiders-wr-situation-in-flux/
Code Black!
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Why was Corky’s article posted again under Comment 85??? It’s already been posted as the subject matter here.
Code Knucklehead !!!
March 5th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Yeah, GaNoid. Why should Allen talk? This is all just going to go away…
March 5th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Vincent Jackson gained 4754 yds with 37 TDs in his first 7 seasons with the bolts. Granted, his first 3 seasons were typical of most WR’s, with limited production. Also, he sat out most of 2010 with a contractual dispute and did almost nothing.
Jerry Rice on the other hand gained 7,500 yds with 79 TDs in his first 7 seasons.
It’s doubtful Jackson is the superstar calibre of Jerry Rice. Considering my law of inverse proportions with demonstrates that as soon as a football or baseball player gains a huge money contract, performance of same player radically decreases.
It will cost a King’s ransom to acquire Jackson: it would be worth it if he performs on par with his past, best performance and doesn’t get injured. However, if Jackson goes bust then we have made the same mistake as we have for the past 10 yrs and have a huge, unusable contract we must serve.
It’s a balancing act: does the risk of acquiring Jackson outweigh the benefits? We saw what happened last year when Ford and Moore went down and we were stuck force feed DHB, who by the way didn’t have a “breakout” season as Corky proclaims, but merely gained yards without scoring much, and dropped passes at critical moments which cost us several games. We were very hard pressed for competent receivers.
I think I would vote to seek out new talent by trading DHB away for a 2nd round draft pick.
March 6th, 2012 at 12:24 am
We don’t need another wide receiver we def need another Hybrid guy who could rush the passer standing up n with hands down… We need a backup MLB n another WLB n a a Cb or 2 n back up for mike huff n high motor backup DT , on O we need a good backup RB , a veteran WR and C n another G
March 6th, 2012 at 12:25 am
CODE BLACK
March 6th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Code black x 2
March 6th, 2012 at 12:41 am
genius ^
psh
March 6th, 2012 at 12:42 am
106 that is^^^
March 6th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Why not cut DHB, DMC, Seymour and Palmer! Keep Moore, Ford, JC and other willing to play Raider without penalties play! Bad attitudes on the field is bad out in the community. If Spuds retain Palmer in order to pay him for the first rounds this gave up is a waste of money take the hit and move on!
March 6th, 2012 at 1:06 am
C;mon Steve. We know you got the hots for Vincent J. Are you forgetting who is our GM? I dont remember him paying for a big FA in GB for that WR corp (arguably the best group) in the NFL. Big Mac will get us WR help in the draft or UFA market. Terrible article Steve.
March 6th, 2012 at 2:01 am
Doesn’t this team need a new RT AND RG to protect our franchise quarterback? Why get a wide receiver when Carson won’t have time to pass him the ball?
March 6th, 2012 at 3:14 am
CB x 3
March 6th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Raiders WR situation in flux Derek Hagan and Denarius Moore managed to crack the Raiders 53-man roster last season based on strong showings in training camp and exhibition games. Moore is a lock for the 2012 team. Hagan ultimately was released, and signed with the Buffalo Bills…. [...]
March 6th, 2012 at 3:20 am
Um who the f$%& is posting under my handle? I haven’t posted on this blog for a while. F#$$8*++ lames.
March 6th, 2012 at 4:28 am
El Dirty in the house!
Im the real El Dirty
and Im here to say
I like to get dirty, in a major way
Nacho cheese dripping down my shirt
Was in prison too long
Boy my ass does hurt
Dip diggity doodle, Wrecks-n-Effects posse in the hizzy, what what!
March 6th, 2012 at 5:44 am
No AM crew this morning?
March 6th, 2012 at 5:45 am
CB x 4
March 6th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Bcz…sorry, just a little late
What’s up, Mcfadden?
March 6th, 2012 at 5:54 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.
March 6th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Hey Dirt Lot!
March 6th, 2012 at 5:57 am
good morning everybody!
March 6th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Not happy with Wimbley raking us over the coals like this.
I understand he is doing what he needs to do, and I won’t hold any long-term grudges towards him, but Al did him a favor and a major solid by franchising him prior to the lockout, and Kam has proceeded to use every bit of leverage from that to get as much money as possible, with only his and his agent’s best interests at heart, not the team, his teammates, or the organization that made him so wealthy.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:00 am
I heard Wimbley was working on a new deal with us though?
March 6th, 2012 at 6:01 am
JUST OUT OF SHOWER,AM NOW EL CLEAN !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Ddsman Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Master Beeecham – you have got to be the biggest poser alive.
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Gotta love how he spins mommy and daddy taking him to San Diego for the weekend as a “Mini-Rap Tour” or whatever.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:04 am
I heard Wimbley was working on a new deal with us though?
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Clearly, him and Reggie are not on the same page, or it would already be done.
Seems Wimbley is ONLY going to lower his salary cap number this year, to get MORE guaranteed money overall.
You would think he would realize how grossly we overpaid him, and he would restructure it to give us some cap flexibility and keep the guaranteed monies pretty much the same.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:06 am
I heard he is willing to restructure, but not take a pay cut…scratching my head on that one!
March 6th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:06 am
I heard he is willing to restructure, but not take a pay cut…scratching my head on that one!
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Methinks the change of heart was caused by his agent fishing around a little and finding the demand for #96 isn’t initially what he thought.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Restructuring just turns salary money into bonus money to spread it out over the length of the contract and lower our cap hit this year. ALL players are willing to do that, because they get the money up front, as opposed to waiting for game checks. Reggie isn’t going to restructure Wimbley, he is going to get him a new deal or cut him
March 6th, 2012 at 6:10 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/bills-rumored-to-have-interest-in-vincent-jackson/
Bills trying to buy a playoff team.
Raiders trying to build one …
March 6th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Gonna be teaming up with Master Beeecham for some dope ass jams. We the Jay-Z and Kanye of SoCal.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:12 am
good morning AM crew!
welcome back bcz …
March 6th, 2012 at 6:14 am
The offense was fine with these WR’s last year. The defense was a GREASE FIRE.
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That’s funny Gdog!
March 6th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I like Kam Wimbley more than most in here.
I just don’t like his contract, same as Michael Huff
can’t blame a player for signing a contract that his agent negotiated with Al Davis.
What I look at is play on the field. I’m not a senior capologist like my man BCZ and I don’t look at the remaining 3-4 years down the road (big picture). I’d pay Wimbley $11 million before I’d pay Seymour $15 million.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:16 am
BOOOO, no jackson. I’m sure someone brought it up already, but here it is again.
You remember the Chargers game where Bush went nuts and VJax gave up on a deep Rivers pass that could have won the game for the Chargers? This guy has been complaining about a contract for how long? Doesn’t seem like the type you want in a locker room that you (D.Allen) don’t have command of yet.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:10 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/bills-rumored-to-have-interest-in-vincent-jackson/
Bills trying to buy a playoff team.
Raiders trying to build one …
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Every year, someone tries for a microwave championship. Every year, it fails.
Exhibit 1: The 2011 Philadelphia Eagles.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:20 am
pass on V-Jax!
DHB, Moore, Ford & Murphy make a fine WR Corps.
they are only getting better. They finally have a QB
Boss, Myers, Gordon & Ausberry at TE is cool too
Reece returning. DMAC & Jones healthy
Knapp coming in. This is going to be a fun year. We’re going to score a bunch of points and win a bunch of games
March 6th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Bills trying to buy a playoff team.
Raiders trying to build one
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Very unlike the Bills to spend in FA, they almost NEVER do. I would hardly call signing one vet WR in FA as ‘buying’ a playoff team. The Bills are very committed to building through the draft, I doubt if they show more than minor interest in VJax. Chicago is the team that is going to make a big push for him.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:21 am
AGREE WITH MOST OF POST-137.I CAN BLAME A PLAYER 4 NOT EARNING THE $$ IN HIS CONTRACT,EXCLUDING INJURY OFCOURSE..
March 6th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Our super group gonna be called Da Peanut Butta-Jelly Crew
I got peanut butter niggas and strawberry hos
Life is tough for a playa, that’s just how it goes
If you wanna get down, heres what you do
Pump up those jams by the Peanut Butta-Jelly Crew
March 6th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Exhibit 1: The 2011 Philadelphia Eagles.
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I kind of disagree with that, only because the Eagles yes did sign a bunch of FAs, but they didn’t sign them to 1 year deals, they got most of them pretty long term. That team really came on at the end of the year. They will be a powerhouse in 2012
March 6th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Wimbley is gone. Our current LB’s are:
R. McClain
T. Goethel
A. Curry
C. Ihenacho(who?)
Free agents
D. Blackstock
Q. Groves
March 6th, 2012 at 6:26 am
whats up Duck?
you’re an asset on this blog.
since when did you become the arch nemesis of Beeeecham ??
that dude is funny. comedy is welcome here for sure
March 6th, 2012 at 6:27 am
@140. Agree. We don’t need any more WR’s. The D needs an influx of cash/talent. CP3 can work with our young guys. Give them a chance. That side of the ball is gonna be putting up 28 pts consistently. It’s the D side that needs to be fixed.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Raider Duck done suck, he one stupid f*ck
When he meet my crew, he sh*t out of luck
El Dirty gonna give him some dirty
When Master Beeecham gets down, he’s gonna hurty
Da Peanut Butta-Jelly Crew coming to your town in 2012
March 6th, 2012 at 6:30 am
I’m out playas! Gots to get my hustle on.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Wimbley is gone
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Link? Source?
March 6th, 2012 at 6:32 am
A 16+ GAME RUNNING BACK WOULD HELP MORE THAN A WIDE-OUT..
March 6th, 2012 at 6:33 am
I am still hopeful that Wimbley stays. From a bargaining position, this is where both sides are at:
Raiders cut him and pay him $6.5M to negotiate a fairly rich contract with another team. Probably what I would do in his position (if money was top concern).
The Raiders must cut him or get an even worse guaranteed clause kick in. Wimbley knows that in order to restructure, the guaranteed future money has to come off the table. He still could have a nice payday from the Raiders, but just needs to give up the $17.5M extra. Still $6.5M is a nice consolation prize, but if he plays his cards right, he could still get a nice payday after all.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Duck, I agree…his agent had more than enough time to shop around and probably found nothing…
What’s up Rockstar? How’s the fam, bro?
March 6th, 2012 at 6:36 am
I’m not a fan of Vincent Jackson. He’s a clone system WR that is the prototype for P. Rivers. He’s gonna flame out like Ochocinco if he changes teams. Schilens is as good as he is. Don’t want him, even for cheap.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:38 am
MOST WIDE RECIEVERS THAT R ANY GOOD R HEAD CASES..
March 6th, 2012 at 6:38 am
150.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Wimbley is gone
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Link? Source?
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Sorry, just my 2¢
March 6th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Amazing that you guys have so much faith in Reggie McKenzie, yet doubt he’ll be able to do much in the way of contract magic to retain players.
Seymour is staying. Branch is staying. Kelly & Huff are probably staying. Curry & McClain are probably staying too.
what do these guys all share? they are friggin WAY overpaid.
I’m guessing Stan Routt was chopped because Reggie, Dennis & Jason flat out didn’t like him or want him around
Kam Wimbley will be back with a “fixed” contract that works for both sides if Reggie wants him bad enough
Raiders fans who hate on him and then turn around and praise Rolando McClain in the next comment should be expunged
March 6th, 2012 at 6:40 am
You know…I wish I could go to sleep knowing that even if my employer finds that he no longer needs my services, that I will still get a good hefty 6 million in my account!
March 6th, 2012 at 6:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:40 am
I’m guessing Stan Routt was chopped because Reggie, Dennis & Jason flat out didn’t like him or want him around
That very well could be. I heard Chuck B did not like him at all…but that is not saying much
March 6th, 2012 at 6:43 am
What overpaid guys ever quit their jobs?
March 6th, 2012 at 6:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:26 am
whats up Duck?
you’re an asset on this blog.
since when did you become the arch nemesis of Beeeecham ??
that dude is funny. comedy is welcome here for sure
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First of all, Thank You for the kind words.
Re Beeeeeeeeeeeeecham: I’m not sure what set him off. I made some comment in passing one day and all of a sudden he’s calling me out a few times a week, and also saying I’m sockpuppeting (which I do not do for ANYBODY).
Now, if he just went on with his little fantasy rap world and didn’t say anything about me one way or the other, I couldn’t care less WHAT he does or says.
But if he starts calling me out…? I’m not going to let that slide.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:52 am
We are not going to find a BETTER player than Kam Wimbley for less than $4.5 million
If you’re not releasing McClain because of the cap hit, you’re not releasing Wimbley because of the cap hit..
in either situation you’re looking for a vet minimum guy or undrafted rookie replacement
KW puts pressure on the QB and gets some sacks.
pressure, hurries & knock downs are never taken into consideration. when you force a QB to make a bad throw? thats a good play. thats basically a loss of down or a turnover. you get a sack or force an O-Lineman to hold, thats negative yardage.
KW makes us a better football team. RM doesn’t
March 6th, 2012 at 6:52 am
WIST-AM New Orleans reports Drew Brees is “livid” about being franchise tagged, and will not sign his tender.
WIST-AM New Orleans is not typically in the business of breaking major Saints’ news, but this is certainly plausible. The Saints and Brees have been fruitlessly working toward an extension for nearly two years, and have made surprisingly little progress since talks got serious in August. The two sides now have until July 16 to work out a long-term contract. If a deal has not been reached by then, it’s entirely possible Brees will refuse to sign his tender and report to training camp.
Interesting…
March 6th, 2012 at 6:52 am
GOOD DAY RAIDERDUCK.CANT LET THAT STUFF BOTHER U.HE’S NOT CALLING U OUT,HE’S RESPONDING TO “RAIDERDUCK”..
March 6th, 2012 at 6:56 am
By the end of 2012, Rolando McClain will have played so awesome, that everyone will be trying to come up with their own cool nickname for him.
Print that!!
March 6th, 2012 at 6:57 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:52 am
GOOD DAY RAIDERDUCK.CANT LET THAT STUFF BOTHER U.HE’S NOT CALLING U OUT,HE’S RESPONDING TO “RAIDERDUCK”..
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Take a look at two threads ago. We’re talking football-related stuff, not involving Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeecham in any way, and suddenly he pops in and starts smacktalking me for no reason at all. WTF?
Again, if he’d have said nothing to me, I’d have said nothing to him. But just as I wouldn’t expect anybody to start taking insults from me without responding, I’m not going to just take insults from this little feces-for-brains without responding.
March 6th, 2012 at 6:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:52 am
We are not going to find a BETTER player than Kam Wimbley for less than $4.5 million
If you’re not releasing McClain because of the cap hit, you’re not releasing Wimbley because of the cap hit..
in either situation you’re looking for a vet minimum guy or undrafted rookie replacement
KW puts pressure on the QB and gets some sacks.
pressure, hurries & knock downs are never taken into consideration. when you force a QB to make a bad throw? thats a good play. thats basically a loss of down or a turnover. you get a sack or force an O-Lineman to hold, thats negative yardage.
KW makes us a better football team. RM doesn’t
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So what do you think will happen? I doubt that Wimbley will stick around for one year @ 11 million and then work for half next year (Half would be generous of Reg for any extended seasons) when he could get 6.5 million for free AND sign a long term contract elewhere. Money talks and I think KW is gonna opt for the cash.
Again, just my 2¢.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Kam Wimbley just feasts on bad line play. Otherwise, he disappears for weeks.
We can find cheaper alternatives.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 6:52 am
We are not going to find a BETTER player than Kam Wimbley for less than $4.5 million
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And if it were only the $4.5 mil for this season, Reggie would have picked him up already.
It’s those ADDITIONAL guaranteed years that kick in on March 17 that Reggie’s balking about. It’s another $19 million in guarantees when Reggie’s trying to get us away from that.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:07 am
I’d take KW back if he just restructured w/o a pay cut, as long as those rididculous guaranteed clauses were kicked out. If he accepted a performance clause to trigger them, that would change everything.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:10 am
BTW: Happy Birthday to Michael Huff!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:17 am
McPain!!!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Good morning nation.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:19 am
If we are going to sign a big name FA, I rather sign B Carr or Mario Williams over V Jackson.
Fixing the defense should be our number one priority.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:19 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Hwn.. O ..Duck… JFB.. how the hell are ya all
March 6th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Rise and grind everybody.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Money talks and I think KW is gonna opt for the cash.
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I don’t know Kam Wimbley personally, but I don’t think he’d be working with his agent and Reggie McKenzie on a new or restructured deal if he already had made up his mind.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Rise and grind everybody.
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i prefer to wake and bake sir !!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Cut TK, Wimbley, Henderson, and sign Mario Williams.
Henderson is done.
We don’t need TK. We have Seymour, Houston, and Bryant. We should add a NT.
Wimbley is not with his contract, cut him, and save 4.5 that we can use towards signing Mario.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:25 am
I’d take KW back if he just restructured w/o a pay cut, as long as those rididculous guaranteed clauses were kicked out. If he accepted a performance clause to trigger them, that would change everything.
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G123 = stud blogger
Agreed!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Steve, I understand there is minimal new info about the Raiders right now, That being said you probaly could have picked most any other position to talk about and the options in free agency. Seriously dissapointed in this blog. Give us something that is within the realm of possibility to banter about. V-JAX is NOT going to the Raiders! How about a courtland Finnegan or Mike Tolbert article for starters? How about who our new punter is going to be next season?
Think before you write next time.
March 6th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Mike, O….what’s up fellas? Had an earthquake yesterday morning here in the Bay and I guess my home town on Oahu blacked out due to lightning and thunder last night…hmmmm…
March 6th, 2012 at 7:26 am
179.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Rise and grind everybody.
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i prefer to wake and bake sir !!
LOL
March 6th, 2012 at 7:27 am
i prefer to wake and bake sir !!
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Who needs coffee?
March 6th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I don’t think he was talking about coffee O…lol
March 6th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Cut TK, Wimbley, Henderson, and sign Mario Williams
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if only it were that simple!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Donuts work well with a wake and bake !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Think before you write next time
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HB,
Steve is awesome. relax
if you wanna talk about punters, lets do it !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Have a gr8 tuesday Raider Nation!~
March 6th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Think before you write next time
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HB,
Steve is awesome. relax
if you wanna talk about punters, lets do it !!!
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thanks lol!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Think before you write next time
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HB,
Steve is awesome. relax
if you wanna talk about punters, lets do it !!!
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As much as I didn’t care for the article, I’m probaly even more angry about being in football withdrawl. It’s a tough time of year!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:38 am
C’mon guys, be nice to Steve. The blog entry of seriously considering a day one FA WR is garbage, and he knows it too. Might as well speculate on signing both Mario Williams and Paul Soliai in the same day.
He just wants to keep the responses to under 1,000.
Good job Steve!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:40 am
As much as I didn’t care for the article, I’m probaly even more angry about being in football withdrawl. It’s a tough time of year!
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@HB
doesn’t free agency start up next week?
what Raiders do you want retained?
March 6th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I don’t think he was talking about coffee O…lol
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LOL
March 6th, 2012 at 7:44 am
191.r8eray Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
What’s up, Ray?
March 6th, 2012 at 7:47 am
if only it were that simple!
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It is!
Cut & sign!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Might as well speculate on signing both Mario Williams and Paul Soliai in the same day
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G123,
you’ve been talking to Raider O, haven’t you?
cut Huff, Curry, Kelly, Seymour, Henderson, McClain, Wimbley, Eugene, CJ37, Goethel & Chewbacca!!!
package DVD & Branch for a 2nd rounder …
sign Mario Williams & Paul Soliai!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:53 am
i have said it before.. cut em all but 20.
IRON MAN FOOTBALL !!!
and look at all the cap room we will have !!!!
lol lol lol lol lol
March 6th, 2012 at 7:53 am
you’ve been talking to Raider O, haven’t you?
cut Huff, Curry, Kelly, Seymour, Henderson, McClain, Wimbley, Eugene, CJ37, Goethel & Chewbacca!!!
package DVD & Branch for a 2nd rounder …
sign Mario Williams & Paul Soliai!
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Co-sign!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Slow down RR. We don’t have to cut the entire team.
- cut Wimbley, CJ, TK, Eugene, and Henderson.
- restructure with Huff, Curry
- Move Curry to SLB. He is a better fit as a 2 down LB.
- Sign Mario Williams & T Porter
DE: Mario
DT: Houston
DT: Seymour
DE: Matt S
SLB: Curry
MLB: McClain
WLB: Goethel/ FA/ rookie
CB: DVD/ Chekwa/ Underwood
CB: T Porter
SS: Branch, MM
FS: Huff
Top 12 defense!
March 6th, 2012 at 7:59 am
package DVD & Branch for a 2nd rounder …
$$$$$$$$$
HATER!!!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Same old ish Hawaiian…another day another dollar!
You know…getting my hustle on.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:00 am
RR,
Branch is not going anywhere, so get over it.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:01 am
sign Mario Williams & Paul Soliai!
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in all seriousness, if we were to ditch the entire defense and bring in a few expensive key peices… I can’t think of two better players to build the defense around!
you know ShoNasty, Houston & Bryant are back no matter what.
We would have the best D-Line in the league, without question. That makes the LB’s jobs easier. That makes the DB’s jobs easier
stuff the run = win the game
March 6th, 2012 at 8:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:40 am
As much as I didn’t care for the article, I’m probaly even more angry about being in football withdrawl. It’s a tough time of year!
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@HB
doesn’t free agency start up next week?
what Raiders do you want retained?
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OK, I will breathe and focus on the task at hand.
Here’s my list…
Soup-I would like to have a good back up, keep if he’s willing.
HairyBush- Keep for the right price
Rock- As his name states he is solid. Retain
Heyer- On the fence
Chaz- Has potential but probaly time to cut ties, He may resurface in a flag football league or that celebrity game they do around the superbowl on directv. Although even then he may get hurt.
Samson-Keep
Lito- Keep,backup
Gio- Keep, good energy, backup for cheap
Des- Def keep
Reece- Def keep
Everyone else that is a free agent really don’t matter.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Slow down RR. We don’t have to cut the entire team.
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LOL!
I was just messing with you, O
March 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
This article sucks!
We should have never cut the Hagan warrior he was our #1. One of the bone head moves that Hue made in my book.
Save the big money for the little pee-wee league defense that Al “Make it Rain!” Has given this lame defense for the last three plus years.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
If Al was here, he would sign Mario. I have no doubt in my mind.
I miss Al.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:53 am
i have said it before.. cut em all but 20.
IRON MAN FOOTBALL !!!
and look at all the cap room we will have !!!!
lol lol lol lol lol
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So simple, yet brilliant lol
March 6th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Cut the defense until they bleed and throw money at new players to bandage the D up!
I hate the players on our D flat out! Only about three or four players come to play a game.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:07 am
RR,
I thought you were serious.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:07 am
yeah Hairy, i have my moments !! lol lol
March 6th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Considering our defensive and cap issues and that we are not even set at a position like Center I really miss the “Raiders were on some no-name cable station posts.” I do not think Raiders are even thinking that way right now. They are trying to retain people and prevent cuts right now and then thinking how they are going to fill gaping holes that will be created on the defensive side by cuts.
Oh that’s right, the cap is just a myth – we can sign whoever we want.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Gio was the MVP of our defense last year and he could be cut. That is how lame our defense is right now.
Wow!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
March 6th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Gio is a FA. We can’t cut him.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:11 am
If Kelly is back on this team at the begining of the year, I am wirting management a letter. How about them apples?
March 6th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Gio is a FA. We can’t cut him.
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Even worse Raider O! WHy is the MVP of our defense a free agent? I will tell you why the same reason Sterling Moore is making a contribution NE all the way to the Superbowl while our d Backs struggle. We had the guy and just let him walk away. He was the Jeremy Lin of football in my eyes.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:15 am
If Kelly is back on this team at the begining of the year, I am wirting management a letter. How about them apples?
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LMFAO !!!!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Raider Weapon X Http://Www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
OAK started talks with LB Kamerion Wimbley to restructure his deal. If new contract not struck, he’ll be released despite $6.5M guar in ‘12
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Stranger things have happened. Not sure theres going to be a huge market begging to pay Wimbley Davis dollars.
He might re-sign. U never know till U know.
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likely would end up with the Patriots, or the Seahawks (they will either re-sign or let go of David Hawthorne and will definitely release Leroy Hill)
March 6th, 2012 at 8:17 am
CJ,
Just because Gio is a FA, it doesn’t mean we cant re-sign him. We can only tag one player, and I agree that it had to be Branch. Gio did a great job for us last year, and I think most fans & the ORG want him back over Eugene.
Sterling Moore should have never been cut. Bad roster management.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:20 am
dont know O. some in here would want us to re-sign Gio. and then cut him !!! lol lol
March 6th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Since we are talking about WRs, I wonder why Steve never brought up Reggie Wayne or Steve Colston. Either one of those guys may be a good fit for our system as well. Reggie Wayne had some real good hands the last time I checked as well. Veteran player and knows how to run very good routes.
Colston is not that bad as well.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Anyone know how long this guy has been using my handle? This a new low even for this blog.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Steve Colston
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Is this a hybrid blend of Marques Colston and Steve Johnson? He’s probaly pretty good!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Reggie Wayne is going to be a package deal wherever Manning goes. Steve didn’t really meantion any of the myriad of WR’s available in FA only VJax. I think Colston will find a way to stay in NO
March 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:20 am
dont know O. some in here would want us to re-sign Gio. and then cut him !!! l
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
March 6th, 2012 at 8:24 am
bcz24 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Reggie Wayne is going to be a package deal wherever Manning goes. Steve didn’t really meantion any of the myriad of WR’s available in FA only VJax. I think Colston will find a way to stay in NO
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I was just going to say that about Wayne. I do think Colston will be playing elsewhere. They have plenty if WR’s and not enough money with paying Brees and others imo
March 6th, 2012 at 8:25 am
204.r8eray Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Same old ish Hawaiian…another day another dollar!
You know…getting my hustle on.
I hear ya, Ray!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:26 am
*of
March 6th, 2012 at 8:33 am
My bad!!!
Ahh yeah. That was his brother Steve Colston. I went to school with, ahh yeah!! So you know, I am a real cool with Steve!
He is coming out next year. Runs a 4.18 40 and is 6′4″, has hands like glue.
I also had lunch with Santa three months ago.
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HairyBush Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Steve Colston
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Is this a hybrid blend of Marques Colston and Steve Johnson? He’s probaly pretty good!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:35 am
lol lol lol… good cover there CJ !!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Sign Steve Colston, fast! We need this guy.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:40 am
FA begins next week, right? Then the draft, then OTAs…I can’t wait…right now basketball is boring to me and baseball just starting in a few weeks…uggghhh….bring on August! LOL
March 6th, 2012 at 8:41 am
HairyBush Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:24 am
bcz24 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Reggie Wayne is going to be a package deal wherever Manning goes. Steve didn’t really meantion any of the myriad of WR’s available in FA only VJax. I think Colston will find a way to stay in NO
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I was just going to say that about Wayne. I do think Colston will be playing elsewhere. They have plenty if WR’s and not enough money with paying Brees and others imo
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I keep hearing that but I don’t know if a team can sign Manning and Wayne. Wayne still has some tred and does not stay on the injured list. Can a team afford both guys?
March 6th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Could we actually rearrange the house for a QB like Manning?
I mean we are just as attractive as Miami, Clevland, or Denver.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:43 am
El Dirty Says:
March 5th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I ran into Jackson once down here in San Diego. I got weird when I asked if I could touch his biceps.
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This isnt dirty. I give the troll credit for going way back to find name to troll
March 6th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Good Morning Nation!
March 6th, 2012 at 8:46 am
What’s up 408? Been awhile…or I haven’t been on when you come on…
March 6th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I keep hearing that but I don’t know if a team can sign Manning and Wayne. Wayne still has some tred and does not stay on the injured list. Can a team afford both guys?
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Wayne and Manning will both take a little less to make it work
March 6th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I ran into Jackson once down here in San Diego. I got weird when I asked if I could touch his biceps.
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This isnt dirty. I give the troll credit for going way back to find name to troll
$$$$$$$$$
Give him credit for being funny too.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:56 am
408, whats up doggy?
@Ray_DeLos_R8ers
March 6th, 2012 at 8:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:01 am
sign Mario Williams & Paul Soliai!
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in all seriousness, if we were to ditch the entire defense and bring in a few expensive key peices… I can’t think of two better players to build the defense around!
you know ShoNasty, Houston & Bryant are back no matter what.
We would have the best D-Line in the league, without question. That makes the LB’s jobs easier. That makes the DB’s jobs easier
stuff the run = win the game
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These days it’s more stop the pass, win the game.
March 6th, 2012 at 8:58 am
hwnrdr
I read all the post but I hardly ever comment. Im always in the cuts tho. I dont want to see Bush walk but what can I do?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:00 am
mornin Ray. I was trying to find out who’s trolling El Dirty. Whats new?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I think our D-Line is solid. Still think it. I think last year was more an aberration (although Seymour is maybe getting a bit old, so we should start adding some more depth in the middle).
LBs are weak (have been weak for the Raiders for a while now).
Secondary is a mess (used to be our strong point).
Funny that we used to really specialize in a top secondary and had quite good players there almost always. Back then, it was a run-oriented league.
Now that it is turning to a pass-oriented league we end up with the weakest secondary for as long as I can remember. Gotta handle that.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:10 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:01 am
… we end up with the weakest secondary for as long as I can remember.
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That’s Al’s fault for drafting speed guys instead of players. The new GM & coach should take care of that by the end of next year
March 6th, 2012 at 9:11 am
246.408RAIDER Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 8:58 am
hwnrdr
I read all the post but I hardly ever comment. Im always in the cuts tho. I dont want to see Bush walk but what can I do?
I know, but was it wiser to give the tag to Branch who will cost less?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:11 am
A weak secondary can be masked. Look at the NY Giants. They have a weak secondary, but they pressure the QB relentlessly. A good DL that consistently pressures the QB and gets hands in his face is gold.
Al misspent the money on marquee CB’s. The way to stop the passing machine QB offensive systems is pressure on the edges and up the gut.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
?? Al’s fault??
dont know how you figure. ask me its Chucks fault.
we had good man corners that were asked to play zone.
and that just doesnt work.. See Nnamdi !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Cb x 5
March 6th, 2012 at 9:14 am
408RAIDER Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:00 am
mornin Ray. I was trying to find out who’s trolling El Dirty. Whats new?
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Dude…want some of that sticky u got!!
Lol…
March 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
March 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
We should have kept Nnamdi over Routt for $10 million/ year.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:19 am
hwnrdr
I believe bush is a luxury we can no longer afford. I really hope we upgrade or LB corps. Something has to happen with that defense.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:20 am
I agree, 408! Because we all know that had we even had a decent defense these past 2 years, we would have won the division! This is the year, though…I can feel it!!!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I believe bush is a luxury we can no longer afford.
******
speak for youself there.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
We should have kept Nnamdi over Routt for $10 million/ year.
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Yep!!! Not to mention our resoning behind doing it was to keep other key players such as Huff, Routt and Zach Miller.
Almost laughable now!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
259.guest123 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I believe bush is a luxury we can no longer afford.
******
speak for youself there.
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He did….hence the words “I believe”???? Hello McFly!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
When u look at it, the “bounty” on Favre may have actually been the key component that allowed N.O to get to the SB.
They hit Favre so hard and often, and borderline illegally, that Favre was hesitant to run for an easy 5 yards that would’ve made for an easy FG to win the game, for fear of taking another hit.
Instead, he holds up and tosses the int. that gave N.O the victory.
Not that Favre isn’t tough…he is…but if they could get into his head..just a little bit…you see the result.
Favre makes that run and Minn. is in the SB.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
guest123 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I believe bush is a luxury we can no longer afford.
******
speak for youself there.
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Yeah, I would keep Bush if he was open to working out a contract to stay here. Our offensive backfield situation is just as vulnerable as our defensive backfield situation.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
DMAC… afternoon sir..
how the he11 are ya ?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
This is fk’n football!
Why are so many people trippin’ off the bounty?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Dakota Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
259.guest123 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I believe bush is a luxury we can no longer afford.
******
speak for youself there.
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He did….hence the words “I believe”???? Hello McFly!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
You People are funny.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
He did….hence the words “I believe”???? Hello McFly!
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also used the word “we” geebs
March 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
DMAC… afternoon sir..
how the he11 are ya ?
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Pretty good. Took a 3 day weekend, but now I’m back at it at work.
Whats good w/ u?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
djohnnyg Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
When u look at it, the “bounty” on Favre may have actually been the key component that allowed N.O to get to the SB.
They hit Favre so hard and often, and borderline illegally, that Favre was hesitant to run for an easy 5 yards that would’ve made for an easy FG to win the game, for fear of taking another hit.
Instead, he holds up and tosses the int. that gave N.O the victory.
Not that Favre isn’t tough…he is…but if they could get into his head..just a little bit…you see the result.
Favre makes that run and Minn. is in the SB.
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Do you really think that was the motivation for a bunch of filthy rich tough driven millionaires to take Farve out that game? Do you think it had anything to do wit ht he fact that they were playing to get to the freakin Superbowl!!!!! They would have tried to take Farve out of that game fir a bag of chips. They did not cheap shot Farve! His punishment was legal.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
This is fk’n football!
Why are so many people trippin’ off the bounty?
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?? dont know.. maybe cause we had nobody last year that could hit hard enough to earn it !!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Good Morning DMAC.
People are tripping because it’s unethical and dirty. Trying to injure another player for an extra few thousands when you make millions.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
If Manning is cut this week look for the Raiders to jump in the running!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I have not been following the bounty story too closely. Has there been any discussions about how this bounty system is giving payments to players outside of the salary cap? Seems too me that such payments would be a violation and that alone should cause the Saints to lose draft picks.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
hwnrdr
I thought we had it last year. I was in b lot after the lions game fuming!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Good Morning DMAC.
People are tripping because it’s unethical and dirty. Trying to injure another player for an extra few thousands when you make millions.
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So fk’n what. If they play dirty than, you play dirty. If your QB takes a cheap shot, then you take a cheap shot at theirs.
It’s just like a pick-up game of hoops. If your opponent is throwing elbows and hacking you, then you start doing the same thing to them.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
268.guest123 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
He did….hence the words “I believe”???? Hello McFly!
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also used the word “we” geebs
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I am not an English teacher, but I think when someone begins a sentence with I believe it means it is his opinion, and the context in which he then used the word “we” he meant the Raiders. But hey, whatever!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Do you really think that was the motivation for a bunch of filthy rich tough driven millionaires to take Farve out that game? Do you think it had anything to do wit ht he fact that they were playing to get to the freakin Superbowl!!!!! They would have tried to take Farve out of that game fir a bag of chips. They did not cheap shot Farve! His punishment was legal.
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I agree that there’s no lousy small money bounty that can motivate more than the instaneous money grab that players get just for getting to the Super Bowl. That in itself is motivation for knocking Favre from the game. The defense knows that the deck is stacked in their favor if Favre is knocked out. That’s a lot of money spread 53 ways to get it done. A lot more than a lousy $10K skin.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Palmer > Manning in 2012
March 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
lol lol DMAC… welcom back to 1970
March 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Heard that the Saints are taking a look at Moss. (min. salary) Would anyone would be willing to bring back Moss to the silver and black? (could be bombs away w/ CP3 – Moss)
March 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
lol lol DMAC… welcom back to 1970
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I kind of wish I were alive to see those dudes play in live action, but I didn’t come along til 81′
March 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
DMAC! What’s up brother?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
No mas Moss
March 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
DAMC, because I seen Moss quit on us in the end zone where we are, I would say no to Moss…but I’m not Reggie either!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
If your opponent is throwing elbows and hacking you, then you start doing the same thing to them
$$$$$$$$$
If someone tries to get me injured, I will drop that MFer! I don’t give a crap if it was BBall, football, or anything else.
Play dirty with me and I will eff you up.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Sorry…typing too fast…DMAC
March 6th, 2012 at 9:40 am
DHB > Moss in 2012
March 6th, 2012 at 9:40 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
DMAC! What’s up brother?
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Morning brother. Had to extend my weekend to spend some extra time w/ the fam.
Back at it today though.
Wassup w/ you?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
DAMC, because I seen Moss quit on us in the end zone where we are, I would say no to Moss…but I’m not Reggie either!
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But wasn’t that disaster team w/ Walter at QB?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
If your opponent is throwing elbows and hacking you, then you start doing the same thing to them
$$$$$$$$$
If someone tries to get me injured, I will drop that MFer! I don’t give a crap if it was BBall, football, or anything else.
Play dirty with me and I will eff you up.
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Ok
So you get what I’m saying right?
If one team is playing dirty, than you play dirty.
Its pretty simple to me.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
If your opponent is throwing elbows and hacking you, then you start doing the same thing to them
$$$$$$$$$
If someone tries to get me injured, I will drop that MFer! I don’t give a crap if it was BBall, football, or anything else.
Play dirty with me and I will eff you up.
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Damn O Dog,
I thought the green party crew was laid back and mellow.
lol
March 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Palmer > Manning in 2012
I agree 100% He is going to light it up next year!!!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
wasn’t that disaster team w/ Walter at QB?
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Andrew Walter was hardly the problem in 2006, Brooks either.
Art Shell + Tom Walsh + Jackie Slater + Irv Eatman = the worst coaching disaster of all time !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Most players on defense, at all levels, are trying to take out the star player on the opposing team. Happens with or without bounties.
However it is still illegal to intentionally hurt another player, and having a team organize a reward system for doing just that is serious. It is organized crime rather than an act of passion
March 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
all this talk.. does anybody else here remember the Eagles and the body bag game?? this sh1t has been going on a long long time.
its only a problem because of the pussafacation of football.
everybody is afraid of getting sued !!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Cj Legend,
I’m not saying they were illegal; just that the hard hits he took did their job in making Favre just hesitant enough to run… instead of tossing the ill fated pass.
Didn’t mean to suggest it was a direct result of the ‘bounty rule’.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
I know Ronnie Brown might be on the wrong side of 30, but I always liked the way this dude ran.
Wouldn’t mind seeing him back-up DMAC, but I prefer Tolbert.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:47 am
DMAC,
You missed the point. If we were playing football, and another player knows you have an injured knee, and tries to take you out by hurting your knee (playing dirty which may end your career), would you be OK with that?
There is a difference between good violent hits and dirty hits.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Al Davis had a bounty program in Oakland:
any asst coach that complained about the defensive philosophy, system or schemes would be punched in the face and then re-assigned to the scouting dept
(See: Cable/Hanson)
John Marshall, Mike Haluchak & Lionel Washington could not be reached for comment
March 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
DMAC, all good! Cool you had an extended weekend…had to work on Saturday, but its all good! Extra $$$ in my pocket come next week!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Damn O Dog,
I thought the green party crew was laid back and mellow.
lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$
I’m a nice dude, but I don’t put up with any crap. I have a zero tolerance policy.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:50 am
O, kinda like Haley telling Hali or whoever it was to go after Carson’s knees on his first play…
March 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
We pay these guys to play like men !! if you want them to play like little girls in skirts, pay them like little girls in skirts !!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:47 am
DMAC,
You missed the point. If we were playing football, and another player knows you have an injured knee, and tries to take you out by hurting your knee (playing dirty which may end your career), would you be OK with that?
There is a difference between good violent hits and dirty hits.
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Schit happens all the time O Dog, thats why I think teams are always iffy on reporting injuries heading into games. They know opponents will target certain players and their injuries.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Someone needs to tell Cork to drop the mancrush on VJax or the Raiders have already hired a new GM.
If the Raiders were to address the WR position via free agency (and the Raiders have much more pressing needs than WR: See, defense, LB &/or LB, any one, or NT, ruching defense) Marcus Colston would be a better fit. The Raiders are in more need of a posession WR than another deep threat. . .
March 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
We pay these guys to play like men !!
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@Mike
what if you MLB plays like a sloth and you can’t afford to cut him?
March 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Hwnrdr,
We learned from our past. Football is not worth a life, walking, etc… It’s a game. Injurues are part of the game, but that shouldn’t be an excuse for dirty play.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Take a look at the what this POLLARD guy has done; injuring Gronkowski, Welker, and someone else…putting em out for weeks. Gronkowski came back but was totally ineffective, but if you “youtube” that play on Gronkowski, it appears he’s intentionally rolling over his ankle. I even thought that at the time I saw it without any commentary from the anncrs.
Then they mentioned how he had put out two others in the same manner.
Judge for yourselves as the video is out there.
That kind of crap is truly “cheap”. It’s not a hard hit, it’s a deliberate attempt to put a guy out..not with a hard hit, but by knowing how to just…injure a guy.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:57 am
What up y’all??
The problem with the whole ‘bounty’ thing is there is too much social media out there. Twitter is one of the most stupid ideas… Who really gives a sh!t what one person is doing on an instantaneous basis?? “Hey everybody, I just took a crap!!”… Who cares??
I think that players shouldn’t talk about what goes on in the locker room. I would suspect that the majority of defensive players are trying to f@ck up the other team’s stars. But the problem is, these Retardo Montalbans feel the need to share EVERYTHING with the rest of the world for some reason. They never shouldve brought all of this out into the light…
I dont agree with intentionally hurting another player, but this is FOOTBALL, not fairy-hoops (thats basketball in case you didnt know)!! Let them play the f@cking game already!!
March 6th, 2012 at 9:58 am
308.Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Hwnrdr,
We learned from our past. Football is not worth a life, walking, etc… It’s a game. Injurues are part of the game, but that shouldn’t be an excuse for dirty play.
Exactly! This is no longer the 70’s or early 80’s
March 6th, 2012 at 9:58 am
O Dog,
Thats why dudes need to get that education man. Too many players see them big bucks and go professional, without having a back-up plan.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:58 am
We all like hard hitting football, but we have to police the way it’s played to not let the visiousness go over the edge.
It’s kind of the same reason that Madden Football is so much more a best seller than NFL Blitz.
March 6th, 2012 at 9:59 am
This is no longer the 70’s or early 80’s
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@Hwnrdr
Even though half of the bloggers in here dress like it is!!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:00 am
We all like hard hitting football, but we have to police the way it’s played to not let the visiousness go over the edge.
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@G123
is that why ROMAC is so timid? he’s afraid to hurt somebody?
like a gentle giant … with a gun?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
This is no longer the 70’s or early 80’s
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@Hwnrdr
Even though half of the bloggers in here dress like it is!!
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I still party like it !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
274.Dakota Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I have not been following the bounty story too closely. Has there been any discussions about how this bounty system is giving payments to players outside of the salary cap? Seems too me that such payments would be a violation and that alone should cause the Saints to lose draft picks.
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Yeah I meantioned the same thing a few times. Paying bonuses of ANY amount off the books is big no no…
March 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
314.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:59 am
This is no longer the 70’s or early 80’s
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@Hwnrdr
Even though half of the bloggers in here dress like it is!!
LOL
March 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Even though half of the bloggers in here dress like it is!!
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hey now
March 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
DMAC,
It’s not about a backup plan, but I do agree. Players should take their education more seriously.
It’s about health bro. Look at Jim Otto. It’s not worth it bro.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
ESPN’s Bill Williamson is “hearing” that Kamerion Wimbley is willing to rework his contract, but is “not interested” in any type of pay cut.
In other words, Wimbley is amenable to moving money around, but not to losing any of it. This could make things difficult for the cap-strapped Raiders. They could try to convert some of Wimbley’s whopping $11 million salary into a signing bonus, but there remains a very real possibility that cutting ties will be the endgame. The franchise must make a decision by March 17.
Source: ESPN.com
March 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
NFL.com’s Jason La Canfora reports the Raiders will release OLB Kamerion Wimbley if he is not amenable to a pay-cut.
This, despite the fact that $6.5 million of Wimbley’s $11 million 2012 salary is guaranteed. ESPN’s Bill Williamson reported Monday that Wimbley is willing to rework his deal, but is “not interested” in any type of pay-cut. It sounds like he’s headed toward the open market.
Source: NFL.com
March 6th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Raider O Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
DMAC,
It’s not about a backup plan, but I do agree. Players should take their education more seriously.
It’s about health bro. Look at Jim Otto. It’s not worth it bro.
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Thats the profession they chose. They know that injuries (accidental or intentionally) happen all the time. Don’t forget these dudes make millions and millions of $$$.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:07 am
11 days to make a decision on Wimbley, eh?
I’m converting most of that salary into a signing bonus!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Andrew Walter was hardly the problem in 2006, Brooks either.
Art Shell + Tom Walsh + Jackie Slater + Irv Eatman = the worst coaching disaster of all time !!!
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Has any of them even coached again after that 2-14 abomination yet?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:07 am
11 days to make a decision on Wimbley, eh?
I’m converting most of that salary into a signing bonus!
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$300,000 (bonus) for each sack?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
It would cost $6.5 million to cut him. An additional $4.5 million to keep him … totals $11 mil
how much of that salary would you dudes convert into a signing bonus, in order to keep him?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
327.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
It would cost $6.5 million to cut him. An additional $4.5 million to keep him … totals $11 mil
how much of that salary would you dudes convert into a signing bonus, in order to keep him?
One dollar…LOL
March 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
It would cost $6.5 million to cut him. An additional $4.5 million to keep him … totals $11 mil
how much of that salary would you dudes convert into a signing bonus, in order to keep him?
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Where’s Bcz? (he’s pretty good at this schit)
March 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
ESPN New York reports the Jets have “discussed the possibility” of pursuing free-agent Jason Campbell.
This comes on the heels of ESPN New York’s Saturday report that free agent Chad Henne is on the Jets’ “radar.” It’s clear Gang Green has every intention of putting pressure on Mark Sanchez in 2012.
Related: Jets
Source: ESPN New York
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Instant super bowl contenders Mistic?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
LOL Hwn.. no more day time t.v. for you.
turn off the price is right and get back to work !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:16 am
LOL, Mike…hey, haven’t you ever wanted to “come on down!!!”
March 6th, 2012 at 10:17 am
324.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:07 am
11 days to make a decision on Wimbley, eh?
I’m converting most of that salary into a signing bonus!
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I’m only against this because his salary continues to balloon the next two years. Say you turn 9 million of that 11 mill into bonus, that will have him counting 5 mill this year, and like 20 MILLION the next 2 years towards the cap.
We can save 4.5 mill towards the cap this year and not have the headache of future cap problems with Wimbley.
Not the same as Romac (which I know is what you will say next) because Romac will COST 8.5 mill MORE to cut this year than retain.
Wimbley’s contract Is simply FAR too bloated to be managable. I mean 11 million SALARY per year for a situational pass rusher? You can’t justify it
March 6th, 2012 at 10:19 am
$300,000 (bonus) for each sack?
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tear up the contract and re-write it for 1/2 million per sack
extra $2 million if we make the playoffs.
extra $4 million if we win the Super Bowl.
extra $1 million if he makes the Pro Bowl.
he could cash out BIG TIME if he produces
March 6th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Wimbley must go….certainly not worth 30 million over the next three years…which becomes guaranteed soon.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:20 am
You know, in my mind set, I would love to have a base salary with incentive bonuses!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:20 am
16 sacks, playoff birth and a Pro Bowl trip = $ 11 million
whoop whoop
March 6th, 2012 at 10:21 am
I like it, but double the bounty to a cool mil per sack against divisional opponents.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:22 am
RR.. what , you want him to earn his money ??
wtf??
March 6th, 2012 at 10:22 am
So we rented Wimbley for two years for a 3rd round draft pick.
Not a great deal, but not the worst deal in history either.
He can’t cover very well, gets most of his sacks in just a couple of games, and has not done anything to improve the run D.
Don’t be too worried if we have to cut him. We really are not losing much. Just write it off as one of Al’s last bad contracts and move on.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I’m hoping that at the very least, Reggie Mac negotiates a sign and trade of Wimbley for a draft pick. Even if we have to pay the balance of the guarantee for this year.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Ok, who is LaMonte Wilson? He is our new Director of Player Engagement! WTF? does that mean?
I first saw that and I thought of “Big Dummy”…but his last name was Sanford…
March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
It’s clear some particular posters here simply don’t want a “white” QB.
I don’t care what color our QB is as long as he wins, but I suspect not all feel the same way.
“Aaron Brooks got a raw deal here”
“Palmer can’t carry JC’s jock”
“Jamarcus is just misunderstood”
“We need to get RGIII”
“Pryor will be an elite QB as soon as we dump that loser Palmer’
See a trend here?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
No one will take on Wimbley’s contract.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Sorry, Winston
March 6th, 2012 at 10:25 am
lol lol . but didnt the guy that played LaMonte.. his last name was Wilson right??
March 6th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Dakota Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:22 am
So we rented Wimbley for two years for a 3rd round draft pick.
Not a great deal, but not the worst deal in history either.
He can’t cover very well, gets most of his sacks in just a couple of games, and has not done anything to improve the run D.
Don’t be too worried if we have to cut him. We really are not losing much. Just write it off as one of Al’s last bad contracts and move on.
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Ditto
+ he has that same azz move, he does off the edge
March 6th, 2012 at 10:25 am
oh damn.. never mind !!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
#9 was great.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
That’s B.S. about the “white QB’s hate”. Dude can be purple with yellow stripes, but if he wins everyone would love him.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:27 am
342.hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Ok, who is LaMonte Wilson? He is our new Director of Player Engagement! WTF? does that mean?
I first saw that and I thought of “Big Dummy”…but his last name was Sanford…
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This is what I found:
“The Cleveland Browns have hired former tight end Aaron Shea as their new director of player engagement. That position was previously held by Jerry Butler for 12 years before he was let go following the 2010 season. Per the Plain Dealer, Shea’s duties will include, “helping players transition into and out of their careers and help prepare them for life after football.”"
March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Dakota Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
No one will take on Wimbley’s contract.
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Well if we are going to lose him anyway, have him step up and name his choice destination. Then he can re-work his deal, we eat the $6.5M, and ship him for a draft pick to the team of his choice with the contract he wants. Win/Win?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
344.Dakota Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
No one will take on Wimbley’s contract.
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Nope, no reason to, they KNOW we are going to cut him.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
352.guest123 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Dakota Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
No one will take on Wimbley’s contract.
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Well if we are going to lose him anyway, have him step up and name his choice destination. Then he can re-work his deal, we eat the $6.5M, and ship him for a draft pick to the team of his choice with the contract he wants. Win/Win?
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That sounds good to me.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Not the same as Romac (which I know is what you will say next) because Romac will COST 8.5 mill MORE to cut this year than retain
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@BCZ
at what point would you say it’s ok to cut ROMAC if he doesn’t improve?
It would hurt us next year too, right?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:30 am
we will not be big in FA…
WR is a position we need to stay pat…
Sign a vet WR???? We allready have 4, 5 when we resign schallens…
Pick up a UDFA guy, or turn one of the PS guy’s into the 6th…
March 6th, 2012 at 10:31 am
355.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Not the same as Romac (which I know is what you will say next) because Romac will COST 8.5 mill MORE to cut this year than retain
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@BCZ
at what point would you say it’s ok to cut ROMAC if he doesn’t improve?
It would hurt us next year too, right?
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IMO it would be as soon as we had the cap space to absorb the hit. Hopefully our cap situation will be better next year, and if Slowlando McLazy continues to be a POS, then we can cut him even if it costs more to cut him than keep him.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Noise down here the disc will take wimbley…
March 6th, 2012 at 10:35 am
@BCZ
at what point would you say it’s ok to cut ROMAC if he doesn’t improve?
It would hurt us next year too, right?
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If he doesn’t earn his keep this year next season we can cut him for a 9.2 mill cap hit, which is only about 3 million more than his cap hit to stay, AND more importantly we will have the draft ammo to replace him. Also like Dakota said, hopefully by next year Reggie will have us in a better cap position.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Come on now guys.. Rolando will be as big a star for us as JaMarcus was !!!
print it !!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
guest123 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
That’s B.S. about the “white QB’s hate”. Dude can be purple with yellow stripes, but if he wins everyone would love him.
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I could give a flying flip about what color a guy is that plays for the NATION…
I just want football players…Guys that want to hit, and make plays….Has a heart and love for the game…
March 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
it would be as soon as we had the cap space to absorb the hit. Hopefully our cap situation will be better next year, and if Slowlando McLazy continues to be a POS, then we can cut him even if it costs more to cut him than keep him
If he doesn’t earn his keep this year next season we can cut him for a 9.2 mill cap hit, which is only about 3 million more than his cap hit to stay, AND more importantly we will have the draft ammo to replace him. Also like Dakota said, hopefully by next year Reggie will have us in a better cap position.
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that sounds fair, thanks fellas
March 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Hopefully DA can work on romac’s pace maker, and desire…
March 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
361.Thec Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
guest123 Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
That’s B.S. about the “white QB’s hate”. Dude can be purple with yellow stripes, but if he wins everyone would love him.
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I could give a flying flip about what color a guy is that plays for the NATION…
I just want football players…Guys that want to hit, and make plays….Has a heart and love for the game…
That is the TRUTH right there, Thec! What’s up brother?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
We have not had a legit DC in Oakland in so long, who knows what these players are really capable of? Do we have a legit DC and a HC who can lend a hand in that area? Time will tell, but I am certainly more hopeful about them than I have been about the parade of loses Al has brought in to be straw-man DCs over the years.
Still, some players like Wimbley and Huff have to go due to their out of whack contracts and players like Slowland have to go due to a lack of heart and desire (as soon as the cap will allow it lol)
March 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Thec Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Hopefully DA can work on romac’s pace maker, and desire…
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It’ll take more than one of those to get him started. I’m afraid he’s gonna need a full replacement.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Ok, who is LaMonte Wilson? He is our new Director of Player Engagement! WTF? does that mean?
I first saw that and I thought of “Big Dummy”…but his last name was Sanford…
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It’s the big one, Elizabeth!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:16 am
LOL, Mike…hey, haven’t you ever wanted to “come on down!!!”
$$$$$$$$$$
My ex got us tickets when Bob Barker was hosting the show, but I didn’t go.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
BTW, Dakota…thanks for that info on Player Engagement…so I guess Winston will be working with Big Rich?
Duck…lol…as long as Aunt Esther ain’t there!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Is it just me or do you guys try to put picture faces on bloggers that you’ve never met?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:47 am
If you chase after Vincent Jackson, you gotta restructure DHB. If DHB does not restructure then you cant go for a high priced WR, or you gotta cut him and give that money to a top WR…
Its all about cents and dimes I guess.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Wimbley gone = Raiders emphasizing the 4-3 for at least another year.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
^^^^^^^^^
Take out the *put
March 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
370.DMAC Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Is it just me or do you guys try to put picture faces on bloggers that you’ve never met?
LOL, I try once in awhile,but all of you guys I have met have me pegged wrong! So, I stopped!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
If Wimbley goes, I expect the Raiders to target Sean Spence with their first compensatory pick.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
370.DMAC Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Is it just me or do you guys try to put picture faces on bloggers that you’ve never met?
LOL, I try once in awhile,but all of you guys I have met have me pegged wrong! So, I stopped!
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lol
I thought I was the only 1
March 6th, 2012 at 10:51 am
NBA considering selling advertising space on team uniforms.
Really? How cheese dik is that?
Maybe the Heat could sell advertising for veterinarians spaying and neutering cats? (Clippers would work here too I guess lol)
Maybe the Trailblazers can market K2 and Spice Gold?
Maybe the Knickerbockers can sell advertising for capri pants?
March 6th, 2012 at 10:51 am
lol Hwn.. let me try.. average hight, med. complexion, dark hair. little on the thick side ??
how am i doing ??
kinda got a asian vibe .
March 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am
378.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:51 am
lol Hwn.. let me try.. average hight, med. complexion, dark hair. little on the thick side ??
how am i doing ??
kinda got a asian vibe .
LOL, you’re just about right…I don’t know about that “thick side” though…lol
March 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am
However, when I do go home, I come back dark as heck though!
March 6th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I always thought MaddenRaider would be kind of an uptight, skinny dude, so I was surprised to see the image he posted of himself in here a few months ago!
http://www2.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/really-fat-guy-on-computer.jpg
March 6th, 2012 at 10:54 am
lol lol.. just kinda messin with you too Hwn. you said in here one time what you looked like lol lol lol lol.
March 6th, 2012 at 10:56 am
me , i am a fat old dude with gray hair that i cut myself with dog clippers !! hahahahhahahaha
March 6th, 2012 at 11:02 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:56 am
me , i am a fat old dude with gray hair that i cut myself with dog clippers !! hahahahhahahaha
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Is this you Mike?
lol
http://underthelobsterscope.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/photo-on-2011-04-28-at-21-57-33-e1304042552308.jpg?w=286&h=384
March 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
No problem, djohnnyg
Your my dude!!! That whole bounty rule stuff is really just being talked about in the media because nothing is going on now. There has been guys making side bets on games and rewarding guys for big hits for years.
As long as it is clean I don’t see the big deal.
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djohnnyg Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Cj Legend,
I’m not saying they were illegal; just that the hard hits he took did their job in making Favre just hesitant enough to run… instead of tossing the ill fated pass.
Didn’t mean to suggest it was a direct result of the ‘bounty rule’.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
you guys are cracking me up. I’m trying to work (in between posts) here !!!
March 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
The Delaware News Journal reports free agent ILB Dan Connor is “on the Eagles’ radar.”
The word comes via “several league sources.” The sources disagree on the extent of the Eagles’ interest, but confirm they approached the Panthers about acquiring Connor last August. Thrust into a significant role after Jon Beason tore his Achilles in Week 1, Connor made 75 tackles, and graded out well against the run by Pro Football Focus. He’d be a solid, reasonably-priced addition for an Eagles team that must shore up its linebacker corps and run defense.
Related: Eagles
Source: Delaware News Journal
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There’s my dude.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
383.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 10:56 am
me , i am a fat old dude with gray hair that i cut myself with dog clippers !! hahahahhahahaha
LOL, its all good!
March 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
damn work computer has that site blocked DMAC.
will have to check it out when i gat home and let you know !!
but if a pic of a heavy old redneck with a home made hair cut , and a beer in his hand, it just might be me !! lol lol lol
March 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Wimbley gone = Raiders emphasizing the 4-3 for at least another year
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@YA
Why??
Scott and Moss can fill the void (situational pass rusher at 3-4 OLB)
March 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mario Williams would be great…but Dwight Freeney would be more cheaper!
I wouldn’t mind picking him up!
March 6th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Scott & Moss playing OLB is a scary thought.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:14 am
I’ll take Dan Connor !!
March 6th, 2012 at 11:15 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
damn work computer has that site blocked DMAC.
will have to check it out when i gat home and let you know !!
but if a pic of a heavy old redneck with a home made hair cut , and a beer in his hand, it just might be me !! lol lol lol
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No beer, but he does have some cool azz glasses on
lol
March 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
I dont expect any impact FA signings.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Scott & Moss playing OLB is a scary thought
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@DAV
what other options are there if KW gets dumped?
find a OLB in free agency for the vet minimum or throw an undrafted kid in there?
March 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
r8eray Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Mario Williams would be great…but Dwight Freeney would be more cheaper!
I wouldn’t mind picking him up!
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A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that Colts RE Dwight Freeney’s 2012 salary cap number is a whopping $19.035 million.
Writes PFT’s Mike Florio, “Freeney, as a result, may be out.” On Monday, the Colts forked over a four-year, $36 million contract to LE Robert Mathis. The deal includes $17 million in first-year payments, bringing the total 2012 cost of Mathis and Freeney to over $30 million. Both defensive ends are on the wrong side of 30. We suspect the Colts will try to trade Freeney leading up to April’s draft. There are already strong indications that he’s not open to playing linebacker in Chuck Pagano’s new 3-4 based defense.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
March 6th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I dont expect any impact FA signings
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does tagging Tyvon Branch (aka Gibril Wilson II) count?
March 6th, 2012 at 11:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Scott & Moss playing OLB is a scary thought
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@DAV
what other options are there if KW gets dumped?
find a OLB in free agency for the vet minimum or throw an undrafted kid in there?
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Yes & yes.
Both better options.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
On Monday, the Colts forked over a four-year, $36 million contract to LE Robert Mathis. The deal includes $17 million in first-year payments
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wow, pass rushers aren’t cheap!
Maybe Al Davis was ahead of the curve (again) with KW’s contract?
March 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
WR @EdMcGee16 doing some pass catching drills & working out in Hermosa Beach, CA with @RAIDERS QB Carson Palmer #Raiders @RaidersBlog
Retweeted by John Dickinson
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McGee to take Housh or Chaz’ spot? (kid is putting in the extra work)
March 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Both defensive ends are on the wrong side of 30.
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Says it all.We are building a good young team,no need for old,over the hill players.Those days are hopefully over.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I dont expect any impact FA signings
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does tagging Tyvon Branch (aka Gibril Wilson II) count?
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‘FA’…so no.
But that was huge.
Im not one of those guys, but if I was I would save this for later when Branch is, as the youngsters say “ballin”
March 6th, 2012 at 11:21 am
If you ‘talk up’ Giordano, and ‘talk down’ Branch, I dont see me taking anything you say seriously.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 6th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I dont expect any impact FA signings
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does tagging Tyvon Branch (aka Gibril Wilson II) count?
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DA will have Branch skipping his pro bowl appearance, only to play in the super bowl.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:23 am
WR @EdMcGee16 doing some pass catching drills & working out in Hermosa Beach, CA with @RAIDERS QB Carson Palmer #Raiders @RaidersBlog
Retweeted by John Dickinson
McGee to take Housh or Chaz’ spot? (kid is putting in the extra work)
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DMAC,
Carson Palmer mentioned there was a guy Raiders fans haven’t heard of that will turn some heads next season … think maybe it was McGee?
March 6th, 2012 at 11:23 am
new post chicks
March 6th, 2012 at 11:23 am
new post
March 6th, 2012 at 11:24 am
No beer, but he does have some cool azz glasses on
lol
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lol.. DMAC… can wait to see this handsome mother f’er
March 6th, 2012 at 11:27 am
We could probably get same production from groves if we let kam go, jus resighn for a fraction of the price, I think it would go unnoticeable since they both can’t cover and are both to small and weak to play de.
March 6th, 2012 at 11:27 am
@365: Truth!
March 6th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Simply using McClain more in the blitz, and less covering the other teams best WR… will improve how he looks on our teevee’s.
And how frigging hard is it to get someone to STAY ON ASSIGNMENT??
I don’t know how many times last year all he had to do was stand there like a blob in the middle and the RB would have ran right into him… and instead he was either helping some lineman (why? who knows) or he guessed the wrong gap to jump into…
March 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am
The first thing I would ask McClain if I were Allen… “What exactly do you think a MLB is supposed to do?” And go from there.
My guess is he would say “If I see a lineman in front of me that looks like he needs help, I am to abandon my assignment and hope someone behind me covers my ass.”
Seriously… thats all he ever does on running plays…
March 6th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
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March 7th, 2012 at 7:05 am
what other options are there if KW gets dumped?
find a OLB in free agency for the vet minimum or throw an undrafted kid in there?
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Shaughnessy and 4.5 million to sign another LB to play opposite Curry. I dont want to lose KW but it wouldnt be a total loss. Steve is wrong about a lot of things. Look at Shaughnessy’s scouting reports. He’s a 3-4 OLB, not a 3-4 DE.