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Raiders WR situation in flux

By Steve Corkran
Monday, March 5th, 2012 at 6:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Derek Hagan and Denarius Moore managed to crack the Raiders 53-man roster last season based on strong showings in training camp and exhibition games. Moore is a lock for the 2012 team. Hagan ultimately was released, and signed with the Buffalo Bills.
For now, the Raiders have Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Moore and Louis Murphy under contract. That leaves one or two spots to be filled, assuming the Raiders don’t re-sign free-agents-to-be Chaz Schilens and/or T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
In a perfect world, the Raiders would go after a big-name receiver such as Vincent Jackson, who escaped the franchise tag and is headed for unrestricted free agency.
In Jackson, the Raiders would get a legitimate No. 1 target for quarterback Carson Palmer and someone who would take off pressure from the other receivers.
The Raiders also wouldn’t have to worry about covering Jackson twice a year any longer as they have the past seven seasons when he starred for the San Diego Chargers.
Some feel as if the Raiders are set at receiver. Problem is, that’s based on Heyward-Bey’s breakout season in 2011 and the potential of Ford and Moore. None has accomplished in a season what Jackson has several times during his NFL career.
Three times, Jackson amassed at least 1,098 yards in a season, and he has averaged a gaudy 17.5 yards per reception for his career. Make no mistake, the Raiders aren’t set at receiver and there’s room for a receiver with Jackson’s skill set.
It’s possible that Heyward-Bey, Moore or Ford one day will reach such a level. That’s the predicament facing general manager Reggie McKenzie, projecting what he has vs. what he needs from his receivers.
Signing a big-time receiver such as Jackson won’t come cheaply. The Raiders aren’t flush with salary-cap room and aren’t in a position to compete with some teams loaded with cap room. However, it can be done, as long as Jackson is willing to take more money in latter years, beginning in 2013.

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  • Dakota

    342.hwnrdr Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Ok, who is LaMonte Wilson? He is our new Director of Player Engagement! WTF? does that mean?
    I first saw that and I thought of “Big Dummy”…but his last name was Sanford…
    ++++++++++++++++++
    This is what I found:

    “The Cleveland Browns have hired former tight end Aaron Shea as their new director of player engagement. That position was previously held by Jerry Butler for 12 years before he was let go following the 2010 season. Per the Plain Dealer, Shea’s duties will include, “helping players transition into and out of their careers and help prepare them for life after football.”"

  • guest123

    Dakota Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    No one will take on Wimbley’s contract.

    ********

    Well if we are going to lose him anyway, have him step up and name his choice destination. Then he can re-work his deal, we eat the $6.5M, and ship him for a draft pick to the team of his choice with the contract he wants. Win/Win?

  • bcz24

    344.Dakota Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    No one will take on Wimbley’s contract.
    ******************
    Nope, no reason to, they KNOW we are going to cut him.

  • Dakota

    352.guest123 Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Dakota Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    No one will take on Wimbley’s contract.

    ********

    Well if we are going to lose him anyway, have him step up and name his choice destination. Then he can re-work his deal, we eat the $6.5M, and ship him for a draft pick to the team of his choice with the contract he wants. Win/Win?

    ++++++++++

    That sounds good to me.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Not the same as Romac (which I know is what you will say next) because Romac will COST 8.5 mill MORE to cut this year than retain

    ***

    @BCZ

    at what point would you say it’s ok to cut ROMAC if he doesn’t improve?

    It would hurt us next year too, right?

  • Thec

    we will not be big in FA…
    WR is a position we need to stay pat…
    Sign a vet WR???? We allready have 4, 5 when we resign schallens…

    Pick up a UDFA guy, or turn one of the PS guy’s into the 6th…

  • Dakota

    355.RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Not the same as Romac (which I know is what you will say next) because Romac will COST 8.5 mill MORE to cut this year than retain

    ***

    @BCZ

    at what point would you say it’s ok to cut ROMAC if he doesn’t improve?

    It would hurt us next year too, right?

    +++++++++++++++

    IMO it would be as soon as we had the cap space to absorb the hit. Hopefully our cap situation will be better next year, and if Slowlando McLazy continues to be a POS, then we can cut him even if it costs more to cut him than keep him.

  • Thec

    Noise down here the disc will take wimbley…

  • bcz24

    @BCZ

    at what point would you say it’s ok to cut ROMAC if he doesn’t improve?

    It would hurt us next year too, right?
    *********************
    If he doesn’t earn his keep this year next season we can cut him for a 9.2 mill cap hit, which is only about 3 million more than his cap hit to stay, AND more importantly we will have the draft ammo to replace him. Also like Dakota said, hopefully by next year Reggie will have us in a better cap position.

  • R8ER MIKE

    Come on now guys.. Rolando will be as big a star for us as JaMarcus was !!!
    print it !!

  • Thec

    guest123 Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    That’s B.S. about the “white QB’s hate”. Dude can be purple with yellow stripes, but if he wins everyone would love him.

    +++++++

    I could give a flying flip about what color a guy is that plays for the NATION…

    I just want football players…Guys that want to hit, and make plays….Has a heart and love for the game…

  • RaiderRockstar

    it would be as soon as we had the cap space to absorb the hit. Hopefully our cap situation will be better next year, and if Slowlando McLazy continues to be a POS, then we can cut him even if it costs more to cut him than keep him

    If he doesn’t earn his keep this year next season we can cut him for a 9.2 mill cap hit, which is only about 3 million more than his cap hit to stay, AND more importantly we will have the draft ammo to replace him. Also like Dakota said, hopefully by next year Reggie will have us in a better cap position.

    ***

    that sounds fair, thanks fellas

  • Thec

    Hopefully DA can work on romac’s pace maker, and desire…

  • hwnrdr

    361.Thec Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    guest123 Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    That’s B.S. about the “white QB’s hate”. Dude can be purple with yellow stripes, but if he wins everyone would love him.

    +++++++

    I could give a flying flip about what color a guy is that plays for the NATION…

    I just want football players…Guys that want to hit, and make plays….Has a heart and love for the game…

    That is the TRUTH right there, Thec! What’s up brother?

  • Dakota

    We have not had a legit DC in Oakland in so long, who knows what these players are really capable of? Do we have a legit DC and a HC who can lend a hand in that area? Time will tell, but I am certainly more hopeful about them than I have been about the parade of loses Al has brought in to be straw-man DCs over the years.

    Still, some players like Wimbley and Huff have to go due to their out of whack contracts and players like Slowland have to go due to a lack of heart and desire (as soon as the cap will allow it lol)

  • guest123

    Thec Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    Hopefully DA can work on romac’s pace maker, and desire…

    ********

    It’ll take more than one of those to get him started. I’m afraid he’s gonna need a full replacement.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Hwnrdr Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Ok, who is LaMonte Wilson? He is our new Director of Player Engagement! WTF? does that mean?
    I first saw that and I thought of “Big Dummy”…but his last name was Sanford…

    ===========================================

    It’s the big one, Elizabeth!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Hwnrdr Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    LOL, Mike…hey, haven’t you ever wanted to “come on down!!!”
    $$$$$$$$$$
    My ex got us tickets when Bob Barker was hosting the show, but I didn’t go.

  • hwnrdr

    BTW, Dakota…thanks for that info on Player Engagement…so I guess Winston will be working with Big Rich?
    Duck…lol…as long as Aunt Esther ain’t there!

  • DMAC

    Is it just me or do you guys try to put picture faces on bloggers that you’ve never met?

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    If you chase after Vincent Jackson, you gotta restructure DHB. If DHB does not restructure then you cant go for a high priced WR, or you gotta cut him and give that money to a top WR…

    Its all about cents and dimes I guess.

  • YoungAmerican

    Wimbley gone = Raiders emphasizing the 4-3 for at least another year.

  • DMAC

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Take out the *put

  • hwnrdr

    370.DMAC Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    Is it just me or do you guys try to put picture faces on bloggers that you’ve never met?

    LOL, I try once in awhile,but all of you guys I have met have me pegged wrong! So, I stopped!

  • YoungAmerican

    If Wimbley goes, I expect the Raiders to target Sean Spence with their first compensatory pick.

  • DMAC

    hwnrdr Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    370.DMAC Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    Is it just me or do you guys try to put picture faces on bloggers that you’ve never met?

    LOL, I try once in awhile,but all of you guys I have met have me pegged wrong! So, I stopped!
    ============
    lol
    I thought I was the only 1

  • Dakota

    NBA considering selling advertising space on team uniforms.

    Really? How cheese dik is that?

    Maybe the Heat could sell advertising for veterinarians spaying and neutering cats? (Clippers would work here too I guess lol)

    Maybe the Trailblazers can market K2 and Spice Gold?

    Maybe the Knickerbockers can sell advertising for capri pants?

  • R8ER MIKE

    lol Hwn.. let me try.. average hight, med. complexion, dark hair. little on the thick side ??
    how am i doing ??
    kinda got a asian vibe .

  • hwnrdr

    378.R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:51 am
    lol Hwn.. let me try.. average hight, med. complexion, dark hair. little on the thick side ??
    how am i doing ??
    kinda got a asian vibe .

    LOL, you’re just about right…I don’t know about that “thick side” though…lol

  • hwnrdr

    However, when I do go home, I come back dark as heck though!

  • Dakota

    I always thought MaddenRaider would be kind of an uptight, skinny dude, so I was surprised to see the image he posted of himself in here a few months ago!

    http://www2.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/really-fat-guy-on-computer.jpg

  • R8ER MIKE

    lol lol.. just kinda messin with you too Hwn. you said in here one time what you looked like lol lol lol lol.

  • R8ER MIKE

    me , i am a fat old dude with gray hair that i cut myself with dog clippers !! hahahahhahahaha

  • DMAC

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    me , i am a fat old dude with gray hair that i cut myself with dog clippers !! hahahahhahahaha
    ==========

    Is this you Mike?
    lol

    http://underthelobsterscope.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/photo-on-2011-04-28-at-21-57-33-e1304042552308.jpg?w=286&h=384

  • CJ Legend 34

    No problem, djohnnyg

    Your my dude!!! That whole bounty rule stuff is really just being talked about in the media because nothing is going on now. There has been guys making side bets on games and rewarding guys for big hits for years.

    As long as it is clean I don’t see the big deal.
    —————————————-
    djohnnyg Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    Cj Legend,

    I’m not saying they were illegal; just that the hard hits he took did their job in making Favre just hesitant enough to run… instead of tossing the ill fated pass.

    Didn’t mean to suggest it was a direct result of the ‘bounty rule’.

  • RaiderRockstar

    you guys are cracking me up. I’m trying to work (in between posts) here !!!

  • DMAC

    The Delaware News Journal reports free agent ILB Dan Connor is “on the Eagles’ radar.”
    The word comes via “several league sources.” The sources disagree on the extent of the Eagles’ interest, but confirm they approached the Panthers about acquiring Connor last August. Thrust into a significant role after Jon Beason tore his Achilles in Week 1, Connor made 75 tackles, and graded out well against the run by Pro Football Focus. He’d be a solid, reasonably-priced addition for an Eagles team that must shore up its linebacker corps and run defense.
    Related: Eagles
    Source: Delaware News Journal
    ============

    There’s my dude.

  • hwnrdr

    383.R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 10:56 am
    me , i am a fat old dude with gray hair that i cut myself with dog clippers !! hahahahhahahaha

    LOL, its all good!

  • R8ER MIKE

    damn work computer has that site blocked DMAC.
    will have to check it out when i gat home and let you know !!
    but if a pic of a heavy old redneck with a home made hair cut , and a beer in his hand, it just might be me !! lol lol lol

  • RaiderRockstar

    Wimbley gone = Raiders emphasizing the 4-3 for at least another year

    ***

    @YA

    Why??

    Scott and Moss can fill the void (situational pass rusher at 3-4 OLB)

  • r8eray

    Mario Williams would be great…but Dwight Freeney would be more cheaper!

    I wouldn’t mind picking him up!

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Scott & Moss playing OLB is a scary thought.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I’ll take Dan Connor !!

  • DMAC

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    damn work computer has that site blocked DMAC.
    will have to check it out when i gat home and let you know !!
    but if a pic of a heavy old redneck with a home made hair cut , and a beer in his hand, it just might be me !! lol lol lol
    ==========

    No beer, but he does have some cool azz glasses on
    lol

  • DennisAllensVisor

    I dont expect any impact FA signings.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Scott & Moss playing OLB is a scary thought

    ***

    @DAV

    what other options are there if KW gets dumped?

    find a OLB in free agency for the vet minimum or throw an undrafted kid in there?

  • DMAC

    r8eray Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Mario Williams would be great…but Dwight Freeney would be more cheaper!

    I wouldn’t mind picking him up!
    ============

    A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that Colts RE Dwight Freeney’s 2012 salary cap number is a whopping $19.035 million.
    Writes PFT’s Mike Florio, “Freeney, as a result, may be out.” On Monday, the Colts forked over a four-year, $36 million contract to LE Robert Mathis. The deal includes $17 million in first-year payments, bringing the total 2012 cost of Mathis and Freeney to over $30 million. Both defensive ends are on the wrong side of 30. We suspect the Colts will try to trade Freeney leading up to April’s draft. There are already strong indications that he’s not open to playing linebacker in Chuck Pagano’s new 3-4 based defense.
    Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports

  • RaiderRockstar

    I dont expect any impact FA signings

    ***

    does tagging Tyvon Branch (aka Gibril Wilson II) count?

  • DennisAllensVisor

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    Scott & Moss playing OLB is a scary thought

    ***

    @DAV

    what other options are there if KW gets dumped?

    find a OLB in free agency for the vet minimum or throw an undrafted kid in there?
    —-

    Yes & yes.

    Both better options.

  • RaiderRockstar

    On Monday, the Colts forked over a four-year, $36 million contract to LE Robert Mathis. The deal includes $17 million in first-year payments

    ***

    wow, pass rushers aren’t cheap!

    Maybe Al Davis was ahead of the curve (again) with KW’s contract?