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Report: Seymour, Huff restructured

The Raiders have begun to whittle away at their salary cap issues by reportedly restructuring the contracts of defensive tackle Richard Seymour and free safety Michael Huff.

According to Mac’s Football Blog, an independent outlet run by Brian McIntyre, who is well-sourced among agents and NFL teams in financial matters, Seymour dropped his base salary to the league minimum ($925,000) and converted the remaining $6,575 million to a guaranteed roster bonus for cap purposes.

Huff’s salary dropped to $700,000, moving additional money into a bonus structure that would drop his cap number from $9.828 million to $3.988 million.

The Raiders, according to various reports, have been anywhere from $10 million to $20 million over the salary cap and have committed $6.2 million to Tyvon Branch by virtue of the franchise tag.

The Raiders must still resolve the matter of linebacker of Kamerion Wimbley, due $6.5 million in guaranteed money and $4.5 million in salary this season. Quarterback Carson Palmer, due $12.5 million in salary, is a candidate for restructure who could help the Raiders easily get under a salary cap projected at approximately $120 million.

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  • Dakota

    What is all this 3-4 talk….I know Allen said teams can run both, but in reality you have to have completely different personnell to run the 4-3 vs the 3-4…..and Allen coached a 4-3 in Denver.

    Please, lose the 3-4 defense talk.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Mitchell and Campbell earn close to the league vet min.

    *************************

    Pretty lose translation of the word “earn”, IMO.

    Not a salary-cap move, a personnel move.

  • JLofty

    Ouch JFB…lol.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    sorry fellas, but you dont need to be wealthy or the most handsome guy in the world, or famous to get younger chicks. As long as you are not like 99% of the ame guys in the world young chicks will flock to you. Its like being a clean glass, next to bunch of dirty glasses, people naturally pick the clean one.

    I have had no problems meeting or dating young women and im no different than anyone else that is considered joe public, other than the fact that I avoid being lame. Something mist guys never figure out.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I’m willing to at least see what “Beast” Campbell can do with some reps in the preseason.

    I have seen enough of the “Missile” Mitchell. He stinks, can’t cover, can’t tackle in space, overruns plays.

    Basically he has all the negatives that Anthony Dorsett had, without the track speed.

  • DEATHROW 55

    Mm34 , huff, romac, Wimbly , Houston all looked better in marshalls scheme compared to last yr, that’s no coincidence that our guys regressed. Keep mm#34.

  • Dakota

    Personnel……dayyyum typos

  • Just Fire Baby

    Mistic,

    Just come clean, it is the Gi you wear out in public that does the ladies in right?

  • edward teach

    Dakota Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    What is all this 3-4 talk….I know Allen said teams can run both, but in reality you have to have completely different personnell to run the 4-3 vs the 3-4…..and Allen coached a 4-3 in Denver.

    ********************************************************

    He has experience with both 3-4 and 4-3 defenses, and has said that we will be “multiple” next year, to include 3-4 alignments.

    How much 3-4 we will run vs, how much 4-3 and other stuff will depend on the draft and free agency, i.e. what the team looks like afterwards. Allen is on record as saying this.

    Not arguing with you, just pointing out Allen’s comments on the subject. Obviously we need a nose tackle and way better depth at linebacker to play 3-4 with any regularity.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I vote for solid Semi-Pros not having to go back and edit typo’s.

    Seriously, did anyone not know what Dakota meant? Or J Hill earlier?

    One of the perks of Semi-Pro status, proofreadin is optionol.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Mistic,

    Just come clean, it is the Gi you wear out in public that does the ladies in right?
    =================

    lol funny bra

  • RaiderLen

    I avoid being lame. Something mist guys never figure out.
    ——————————-
    So you consciously have to avoid being lame.

    LOL

    Sounds like personality spin to me.

    Charlatan.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I mean dudes who wear a shirt and tie, or the trendy jean and suit jacket look, are a dime a dozen.

    But a dude rolling in bare-foot with a Gi? Ready to karate-kick the bartender if he doesn’t introduce himself?

    Pimping!!

  • RaiderLen

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    I’m willing to at least see what “Beast” Campbell can do with some reps in the preseason.

    I have seen enough of the “Missile” Mitchell. He stinks, can’t cover, can’t tackle in space, overruns plays.

    Basically he has all the negatives that Anthony Dorsett had, without the track speed.
    —————————-
    Now you’re talkin JFB.

    Campbell gets THIS camp to prove Himself or I’m done with Him as well.

    Raiders might be able to find a role for MM34, I’ll leave that to DA and Tarver.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Raiders might be able to find a role for MM34, I’ll leave that to DA and Tarver.

    *************************

    I hope so, otherwise that was a mighty wasteful 2nd round pick.

    We do need bodies in the secondary, so expect him to be competing with a BUNCH of other guys at the beginning of camp.

  • Gdog

    “Move the money around all you want to, just don’t take any away from me!” –
    >>>>

    They are not allowed to under the CBA.

    There is no such thing as a “pay cut” that I keep seeing people talk about in this forum. I kinda wish it would stop.

    NFL owners have these options with players UNDER CONTRACT:

    1. Honor it.
    2. Release the player
    3. Restructure, which only defers the exact same money owed until later.

    Thats it. Thats the list.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Look Corkran, if your only going to “bring it” on your live chats, you think you might be able to hammer out more than one a week?

    Thanks,

    Management

  • 1960AutumnWind
  • Seymour Bush

    Is MR still giving “love” advice? Is so I will come back later.

  • RaiderLen

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
    Raiders might be able to find a role for MM34, I’ll leave that to DA and Tarver.

    *************************

    I hope so, otherwise that was a mighty wasteful 2nd round pick.

    We do need bodies in the secondary, so expect him to be competing with a BUNCH of other guys at the beginning of camp.
    —————————
    I hear you JFB.

    Hopefully Reggie’s 2nd rounders, in the future, will contribute from day 1.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I believe a player can agree to tear up the old contract and sign a new one.

    Just very, very few players will do so without the new contract having at least as much guaranteed money.

    And most players want as much guaranteed as soon as they can. A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow (Unless you invest at the Bank of O)

  • Hardline

    MM, CJ, Huff (who apparently is staying on)all should have cut/traded: worthless as titz on a boar.

    The one guy we should retain is Boyd, Jerome Boyd, IMO, he is the key – the straw that stirs the entire defense.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Hopefully Reggie’s 2nd rounders, in the future, will contribute from day 1.

    *************************

    I remember the season-opener against SD, when MM34 was out as a rookie all preseason, and came in and leveled (I think Sproles) on a kickoff return. He was pumped, crowd was pumped, I was loving me some “Missile” Mike.

    Than, unfortunately, he started playing defensively.

  • HayesDaze37

    For all you guys who say bounty programs are harmless, and intended to promote clean, physical play…at what point is it OK as “little” payments get bigger, or payments start getting made by outsiders, including nefarious types like this guy:

    “Third, and most important, it (Sean Payton’s book) goes into extensive detail about Payton’s relationship with one of the central and most shadowy figures from this scandal and that’s felon Mike Ornstein who is a close friend of Payton’s and, according to NFL documents, himself contributed cash to the bounty pool.

    http://mike-freeman.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6264363/35073385

    ——————

    Sean Payton should be suspended by the League for at least one year, and probably for an indefinite amount of time, having to prove his worth to come back. Greg Williams should be expelled from the league. The Saints should be stripped of ALL 2012 draft choices (no #1 this year), in addition to NEXT YEAR’S #1.

    We will be fortunate if D.A. escapes relatively unscathed…it would be nice to know he wasn’t too deep into the program.

  • HayesDaze37

    And on that note…it’s time for an early cerveza. Maybe a little Don Julio today…

    It’s a great afternoon to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

  • Marks hair

    3-4 all the way. Its time to blitz.

  • Marks hair

    Al paid the fines when our players hit guys illegally..

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    Y’all, it’s all about activity & how one metabolizes. . .and not just food.

    I am blessed with a high metabolism (@ 55 years of age) regardless if I am sedenary or active. However, I prefer to run 2 1/2 miles & walk 2 1/2 miles a day. Carbs are good for me as my system naturally converts potatoes, bread, pasta & the like into natural sugar. . .I have to eat protein to keep my weight up.

    it also helps if one has fast twitch as opposed to slow twitch muscles. I am 5″ 10″ and 150 lbs. have to carry a 5 lb water bottle (when full) and my Ipod when doing cardio. I am fortunate because I have thw worst eating habits known to man; love cookies, cake, pie & brownies. Had to cut them out for awhile as the sugar attacks connective tissue (tendons, ligaments etc.) and have a tendency towards tendinitis in my left (takeoffleg) achillies tendon.

    I do eat organic jalopenos (have ‘em on sandwiches, casseroles, potatoes, rice & mexican & Italian food) and strawberries. I eat organic cucumbers as my source for potassium. Bananas aren’t really good in that regard. full of fat & have a tendency to promote lethargy (see Jamarcus Sizzle Syrup. Surprised he didn’t use that ecuse along with sleep apnia). I take fish oil, ginko biloba, zyflemend (great supplement for inflammation. See Super Supplements, vitamin C & B and, since I’m 55 a testosterone supplement with, you guessed it, HGH. So, it does matter what you eat, but more importantly what is good for your individual body type. and, oh by the way, unlike me (I eat right before I go to bed & in the middle of the night. Thank you metabolic rate) eat @ the same time of the day. I do not eat right after I rise; just a piece of peanut butter toast & 1/4 canteloupe, then two big meals daily (lunch & dinner).

    So, like they say in car ads, your mileage will vary. But be consistent & walk 1/2 hour a day; twice! Get a dog!

    Mario williams & Peyton Manning as Raiders? Hopefully fact overrules fiction. . .

  • Just Fire Baby

    I’m sorry, more power to you guys that can stay on top of this and that, and eat organic cucumbers and canteloupe and not want to rip someone’s head off.

    For me, as the saying goes, I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

    If I am going to eat a salad, you better throw some bacon, egg, croutons and some Ranch dressing on that beatch.

  • Dakota

    “The Raiders and Seymour have agreed to lower his $7.5 million cap hit to the league minimum $925,000, with the remaining $6.575 million being converted to a guaranteed roster bonus that will be spread out throughout the length of the contract. The deal also adds on an additional year running through the 2016.”

    Can’t wait to see how explosive Seymour is in 2014, 2015 and 2016…..

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    But, Just Fire, I just polished off a double cheeseborger with swiss & bacon with Jo jos (compliment of Bob’s Burgers. Beats Red robbin every time), two Red Stripes & two double chocolate chip cookies. Now I’m eyeing the second installment of my subway tuna, jalepeno sandwich with tomatoes, dijon, mayonnnase & parmesan cheese. And I’m just warming up.

    Like I said; worst eating habits in the world. . .by the truckload (I’m disgusting @ a ballgame. My Giants visit Seattle to play the Mariners in June. Three games. The concession food alone will set me back about $300 bucks. . .and that’s because the girlfriend will only run me about 20 bucks a game. . .

  • r8eray

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    I vote for solid Semi-Pros not having to go back and edit typo’s.

    Seriously, did anyone not know what Dakota meant? Or J Hill earlier?

    One of the perks of Semi-Pro status, proofreadin is optionol.

    —-

    I no eggsactlee wat yur taking abut…

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    Did you see Goldie Hawn (66 years of age) with her daughter, Kate Hudson in London? She’s looking good & partying like it is 1999.

  • JLofty

    “Can’t wait to see how explosive Seymour is in 2014, 2015 and 2016…..”
    I am sure that Big Dick will be retired by then and living comfortably on his bonus money!

  • RaiderLen

    Dakota Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    “The Raiders and Seymour have agreed to lower his $7.5 million cap hit to the league minimum $925,000, with the remaining $6.575 million being converted to a guaranteed roster bonus that will be spread out throughout the length of the contract. The deal also adds on an additional year running through the 2016.”

    Can’t wait to see how explosive Seymour is in 2014, 2015 and 2016…..
    ———————————–
    Ugh!

    I’d like to know what the $$$ is over the extended contract.

    Doesn’t look good on the surface.

  • RaiderLen

    JLofty Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    “Can’t wait to see how explosive Seymour is in 2014, 2015 and 2016…..”
    I am sure that Big Dick will be retired by then and living comfortably on his bonus money!
    ————————-
    Seriously.

  • JLofty

    Dakota and Len, you guys are fretting about nothing. Big Dick can extend his contract out as long as he wants to be a team guy and help with salaray cap. He’ll get paid what he owed, after he’s retired and its off the books. No worries mon!

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    Perhaps eventually Big Rich converts his cintract into a “personal services” agreement. . .or he becomes the Mario Lemieux of the Raiders. . .although “Super Mario” won a coupla of Stanley cups to get a statue. . .but he did save hockey in Pitt. . .

    Big shoes for Big Rich to fill (LOL). . .

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Gdog Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    “Move the money around all you want to, just don’t take any away from me!” –
    >>>>

    They are not allowed to under the CBA.

    There is no such thing as a “pay cut” that I keep seeing people talk about in this forum. I kinda wish it would stop.

    NFL owners have these options with players UNDER CONTRACT:

    1. Honor it.
    2. Release the player
    3. Restructure, which only defers the exact same money owed until later.

    Thats it. Thats the list.

    ===========================================

    The only way to actually reduce a player’s pay is to release them, then re-sign them at a lower price. Of course, by doing so, you make them an immediate UFA, so this isn’t something you do unless it’s a low-demand player.

  • RaiderLen

    JLofty Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
    Dakota and Len, you guys are fretting about nothing. Big Dick can extend his contract out as long as he wants to be a team guy and help with salaray cap. He’ll get paid what he owed, after he’s retired and its off the books. No worries mon!
    ———————————–
    Lofty, you think he’s adding years and not taking additional $$$?

    I understand it’s all about guaranteed / bonus $$$ regarding contracts, but what does the new deal look like?

    That’s what I’m trippin on. lol

  • JLofty

    No, as I understand it, they are just pushing $$ to the back of the contract. He still gets paid the same, it just comes off the books. Its gaming. Been happening for years. It’s all good. Big Dick ain’t gunna be swinging in 2015. He’s going to be coaching his kid’s youth sports team in Carolina and enjoying the good life. And the Raiders will be under the cap then as they will now…

  • RaiderLen

    RaiderDuck Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    Gdog Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    “Move the money around all you want to, just don’t take any away from me!” –
    >>>>

    They are not allowed to under the CBA.

    There is no such thing as a “pay cut” that I keep seeing people talk about in this forum. I kinda wish it would stop.

    NFL owners have these options with players UNDER CONTRACT:

    1. Honor it.
    2. Release the player
    3. Restructure, which only defers the exact same money owed until later.

    Thats it. Thats the list.

    ===========================================

    The only way to actually reduce a player’s pay is to release them, then re-sign them at a lower price. Of course, by doing so, you make them an immediate UFA, so this isn’t something you do unless it’s a low-demand player.
    ———————————–
    See ya later Wimbley.

    No way I pay that Guy the monies guaranteed under his current contract, no matter how they move the money around.

    Fk that.

  • RaiderLen

    JLofty Says:
    March 8th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
    No, as I understand it, they are just pushing $$ to the back of the contract. He still gets paid the same, it just comes off the books. Its gaming. Been happening for years. It’s all good. Big Dick ain’t gunna be swinging in 2015. He’s going to be coaching his kid’s youth sports team in Carolina and enjoying the good life. And the Raiders will be under the cap then as they will now…
    ——————————-
    OK I’m dense.

    I thought his contract expired this coming season, and by paying the 15 large we could be done with Him after next year.

    By re doing his deal, and adding years, (to reduce our cap number this season) do I understand correctly that he is not taking on addition monies?

    What am I missing?

  • JLofty

    Yeah a guy like Wimbley’s a little harder to rework. He’s young, he could still be playing at the end of whatever you extend out to…can’t play as many games with that like you can with Richard. Richard’s just going to get his check on the day he retires with no affect on the salary cap. Wimbley, not so much.
    So thus the reports that he will be cut like Len proposes. Not hard to imagine…

  • Gdog

    By re doing his deal, and adding years, (to reduce our cap number this season) do I understand correctly that he is not taking on addition monies?

    What am I missing?
    >>>

    Contracts being redone usually adds some guaranteed at worst, or just defers the same amount of money past this year (done only to help a team get under cap… ie Seymour and Huff… and prolly CP next).

    Notice Seymour only will be paid less than a million this year in salary… but he is not taking a pay cut. The money guaranteed just gets spread out over the rest of the contract. This is risky if you do it with too many veteran players that won’t be playing much longer. The entire 2001 team was still under contract after they all left, fer instance.

  • Gdog

    The only way to actually reduce a player’s pay is to release them, then re-sign them at a lower price. Of course, by doing so, you make them an immediate UFA, so this isn’t something you do unless it’s a low-demand player.
    >>>

    This is true. Good point. Thats why you hardly ever see it done… maybe in a sign and trade deal? Which is very rare in the first place…

  • Hardline

    Seymour received $14M and change playing 8 seasons for the Pat’s before coming here.

    Big AL then gave Seymour $12,398,000 in 2010. Big AL then gave Seymour a two year contract, 2011/2012 for $30,000,000.

    This is before the current re-structuring which defers Seymour’s money but doesn’t reduce it.

    It is also proof positive:

    1) AD was a certified dementia victim with no capacity to manage the team; and

    2) The law of inverse proportion took effect, which states that once a big money contract is gained, the player’s performance decreases proportionally to the salary increase in the new, big money contract.

    3) The Pat’s are great because they gain more performance and pay less.

  • JLofty

    Hiram and CJ are candidates for this to occur. They may get cut and an attempt made to resign at vet min….they may or may not choose to do so but they may have some loyalty and lack of interest in starting with a new team, etc.

    “The only way to actually reduce a player’s pay is to release them, then re-sign them at a lower price. Of course, by doing so, you make them an immediate UFA, so this isn’t something you do unless it’s a low-demand player.”

  • Gdog

    Wimbley, not so much.
    So thus the reports that he will be cut like Len proposes. Not hard to imagine…
    >>>>

    I’m guessing the only way he stays is if he agrees to a very long term deal with hardly any money in salary this year. Which means as Cork kept saying… we shall see how much he wants to remain a Raider.

    He knows he can just scoop up the rest of his guaranteed money from the raiders and sign somewhere else on top of it like Routt did…

    I think he is toast here…

  • JLofty

    Agreed.