Brown on transition to McKenzie
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, March 10th, 2012 at 9:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here is Tim Brown to say about the transition of the Raiders from Al Davis, who headed the entire operation, to a an organization in which general manager Reggie McKenzie is heading up the football operation in a partnership with coach Dennis Allen:
Life without Al Davis being involved in every corner of the organization
“That’s going to be the big change. It’s going to be a matter of people having to accept the fact that things are a little different now. A lot different, let’s say that. The fact of the matter is, there’s not one man in charge any more, and the guys who are here now they have a lot of responsibility, and they know if they don’t get certain things done there’s going to be trouble for them. I just think, there has been so much going on, so many changes, do many different things happening, that you would like to see some stability, and being that Mr. Davis passed, you knew there was going to be some shakeups, probably didn’t expect as many as happened, but I think at the same time now it’s a matter of let’s get this thing going and start building, and if we can get that done, it would be an incredible, incredible deal.”
On having seen Reggie McKenzie as a future GM _ they were teammates in 1988
“No, I mean were all young and dumb in those days. You can’t, certain things you can’t project, but certainly over what he’s done for the last 15 years of his career, it was inevitable that he was going to be in this position. I guess nobody would have thought about it here, because of what has gone on here, but I think he’s going to do a great job. He knows the game. He’s played the game. And he’s learned it in the front office, too.”
Some lineage with Ron Wolf . . .
“From that standpoint, he knows, I talked to him, when he got the job, he told me, look, T, if I don’t do the job, I’m gone. I’m out. I know that. So I’m going to get my guys in here. I’m going to do what I have to do and we’re going to make this thing happen. I think from that standpoint, it’s going to be very interesting man, because this guy’s not going to sit on his hands. If things need to be done, they will be done.”
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March 10th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
DAMN..
March 10th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
wow
March 10th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
accountability =what a concept!
March 10th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
new concept
March 10th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
previous gm wasnt even accountable to shareholders
March 10th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
player likewise werent accountable=scholarships
March 10th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
“IF THINGS NEED TO BE DONE,THEY WILL BE DONE”
YES SIR.
March 10th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Too fast
March 10th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Get this thing done reg!
March 10th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Margaritas & herbs = Yes
March 10th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I could have been first. you fkers should be busy elsrwhere
March 10th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Am I all alone? If theres been a 3rd post already im gonna be annoyed
March 10th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
My name is marks hair
March 10th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
My name is Marks hair!
March 10th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
F the celtics! Bum bum, bum bumbum! F the celtics! Bum bum, bum bum bum!
March 10th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The only mystery left is WHO ARE REGGIE”S GUYS?
As far as the Tommy Kelly beating on this blog goes, don’t forget that he had more sacks than Wimbley – and, at 1/3rd the price.
So who gets dumped first?
March 10th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Why doesn’t Tim Brown, (or any interviewee for that matter), tell the truth.
The Raiders were ruled by a madman, who didn’t fully own the team, and who should have been kicked to curb 20 years ago.
March 10th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Tim has been & continues to look for a job at the Raiders. There will only be butt-smooching until that void has been filled.
March 10th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
its going to be interesting how descendents settling his thing going forward
March 10th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
It will be interesting to see how many former Raiders finally make it into the HOF now that Big Al is pushing up daisies.
March 10th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
TK is part of the “over-the-hill” gang and just needs to go.
March 10th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
They should have released Seymour but were in too deep with his money, and couldn’t.
March 10th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Of course Bill Bellichick, brilliant as he is, dumped Seymour on us, and old, Alzheimer’s AL bit, like an old, hungry, nasty fish, and mortgaged the house for him.
March 10th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
This is called Ode to Alzheimers AL, I wrote. Sing the lyrics to the Beverly Hillbillies theme song.
Come ‘n listen to my story ’bout Alzheimers AL
A shadow of himself, at the moon he would howl,
And then one day, dreamin of days gone by
Purple Drank appeared causing AL to sigh,
JaDumbarse, that is, black gold, BamaBoy…
Well, the first thing you know, AL’s 2 and 14
Nother seasons gone by, AL still has a dream,
Told ole Lance Californy is a place you ought’nt be
So Lance loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee
Hollywood..vertical attack, man-on-man, 1969…..
So AL’s still thinkin its 1969,
With a vertical attack everything’ll be fine
And Big AL know alls he gotta do, grab a Plunkett incarnate name of Campbell boo…
After 6 long quarters Campbells a slug,
ALs frothin at the mouth while Cable pulls the plug,
Overhead projectors burnin a hole, better turn AL out fore he has em all on the dole.
Well, now it’s time to say goodbye to AL and all his kin,
AL would like to thank you folks for kindly droppin’ in
(Insanity and alzheimers, superbowls and gin.)
You’re all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of AL’s hospitality
Dementia, that is, set a spell, take your shoes off
Y’all come back now, hear?
March 10th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
16.JB Says:
March 10th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
The only mystery left is WHO ARE REGGIE”S GUYS?
As far as the Tommy Kelly beating on this blog goes, don’t forget that he had more sacks than Wimbley – and, at 1/3rd the price.
So who gets dumped first?
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We all thought “Reggies Guys” were gonna be a bunch of GB Packers.
National media and fans had already started calling Oakland “GB West”, just cuz it was rumored we would get Winston Moss as HC.
So far, we’ve got Brandon Underwood.
Not sure who “Reggie’s Guys” are just yet.
March 10th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
I don’t think Underwood even makes the 53 man roster, barring a top tier CB being signed, Huff & Chekwa will be the Raiders’ starting corners.
March 10th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Sometimes I do wonder…Reggie will have his guys in here…no name, kinda like “Who?” on our roster that will make a good impact!
March 10th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
How can Huff be converted and play corner when he can’t even play end well ??
That is an experiement that will go bad very quickly.
March 10th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Huff doesn’t play end well because he is a safety.
March 10th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
28,wtf are you talkin about?Huff plays safety,and maybe corner this year.Thanks,lA
March 10th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
24 is junk,call Beeech,maybe He can help ya.lol
March 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am
post 16 anyone still here is reggies guy.no excuse for keeping hasbeens or anybody else so in my opion there all reggies guys now
March 11th, 2012 at 4:19 am
Hardline Says:
March 10th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Of course Bill Bellichick, brilliant as he is, dumped Seymour on us, and old, Alzheimer’s AL bit, like an old, hungry, nasty fish, and mortgaged the house for him.
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and all it got him was a SB loss to the Giants…AGAIN. And the Ravens probably should have beat them as well, if it wasnt for Lee Evans drop and a missed FG, Flacco torched those fools.
March 11th, 2012 at 4:21 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 10th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Sometimes I do wonder…Reggie will have his guys in here…no name, kinda like “Who?” on our roster that will make a good impact!
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Issue is, them clearing cap space, then having to find more cap space to sign FA’s. They may have to eat the 2012 year with some low rent free agents, then move forward in 2013, once they have the picks and have a good estimation of what players will exactly fit what Allen and Tarver want done on defense.
March 11th, 2012 at 5:22 am
20.Just Win Baby Says:
March 10th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
It will be interesting to see how many former Raiders finally make it into the HOF now that Big Al is pushing up daisies.
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Nail.Hammer.Head.
March 11th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Brien’s cousin being interviewed on ESPN:
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/52870/haith-missouri-celebrate-big-12-tournament-title
March 11th, 2012 at 7:01 am
We have a very good offense. If we can make the defense work, we will have a very good team.
The question is, Was it the scheme or was it the players that made us bad on defense?
I believe Reggie will work that out.
March 11th, 2012 at 7:49 am
#37,
At some point, regardless of scheme, coaching, etc. SOMEONE has to step up and make a play.
The coaching was bad, the schemes were bad. Heck, I remember Baldinger making fun of Raiders on NFLN for the times we had only 10 men on the field on D. They all had a good laugh at that.
That’s coaching right there. But…you’d think a Richard Seymour or a Rolando Mc Clain or SOMEONE would step up and say “Not today. Not in our house. Not with the division and playoffs on the line, are u gonna just run it and pass it down our throats and embarrass and humiliate us.”
Didn’t happen.
SOMEONE…ANYONE…needed to make a play and they didn’t.
March 11th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Here are four free agent names to keep in mind:
Red Bryant
Ben Grubbs
Mike Tolbert
Stephen Tulloch
March 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
I really liked Hue Jack. The main problem that I saw was that he was too caught up in the fact that he was the newly-emerged NFL Rock Star and he was Al’s hand-picked guy. His star status rose even higher after Al’s death, making him (in essence) the new Al. i think he was focusing on that way more than on the team, its immediate direction, its long-term future and the basic fundamentals of hitting, tackling, making plays and eliminating penalties. Too bad; I would’ve liked to see it all work out …
March 11th, 2012 at 8:09 am
All i know bullies are dumb and when they get their azz kicked its twice as bad on em
March 11th, 2012 at 8:38 am
DJ Johnny Says:
March 11th, 2012 at 7:49 am
#37,
At some point, regardless of scheme, coaching, etc. SOMEONE has to step up and make a play.
The coaching was bad, the schemes were bad. Heck, I remember Baldinger making fun of Raiders on NFLN for the times we had only 10 men on the field on D. They all had a good laugh at that.
That’s coaching right there. But…you’d think a Richard Seymour or a Rolando Mc Clain or SOMEONE would step up and say “Not today. Not in our house. Not with the division and playoffs on the line, are u gonna just run it and pass it down our throats and embarrass and humiliate us.”
Didn’t happen.
SOMEONE…ANYONE…needed to make a play and they didn’t.
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Excellent post right here. Those “talented” veterans couldn’t do a dang thing during that slide….not a play.
Mostly missing plays and penalties.
Get these guys out of here.
Show Wimbley and TK the door. The Raiders can find suitable replacements in the interim….and Seymour, Houston and Bryant can take over for TK without missing a beat.
and they would save $6M
March 11th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I don’t think Hue meant “bully” in the literal sense of it, just that he was trying to build a team that was tough and imposed their will on an opponent.
I liked Hue for his devotion to the org. and i think he had good intentions, but he did not have that team prepared in the Miami game and the Packer game? The only reason I continued to watch was that I was seriously concerned GB was gonna break some long held NFL records.
I was honestly worried they were gonna post 75 or more points on us and it’d be a highlight reel that would stand for eternity.
I was releived it was ONLY 46-16.
March 11th, 2012 at 8:43 am
All they did was throw the ball high and we couldn’t defend! Tall Wr’s and gates!and no presssure on Rivers!
March 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
# 42,
Exactly.
I’d take nothing but practice squad players from other teams over our defense from last year.
Guys with “heart” that will give it 110% under a well coached coordinator and HC.
All those high priced lame-os that were bad – average in the first place, but absolutely at their lamest and most pathetic when it mattered most and the chips were down.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:02 am
44.raiderlization Says:
March 11th, 2012 at 8:43 am
All they did was throw the ball high and we couldn’t defend! Tall Wr’s and gates!and no presssure on Rivers!
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And don’t forget that 42 yard run by Tolbert.
BTW, in a situation like we were in with SD-getting absolutely ZERO pressure, isn’t that the time your “pro bowl”(gag) star (Seymour) is supposed to make some kind of play? Or TK?…. ANYBODY????
March 11th, 2012 at 9:04 am
RaiderSam Says:
March 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
“According to Schefter, “indications” are that the Dolphins aren’t as high on Manning’s list as the Cardinals and Broncos. A source who spoke with Manning prior to his trip to Arizona says his “gut” is that Manning is “leaning toward Denver.” Schefter also reports the Seahawks have been working to arrange a meeting with Manning, but have been unable to do so.”
Source; Rotoworld
uh-oh…
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No big surprise. Manning grew up in blue-collar Mississippi, went to college in blue-collar Knoxville, and then played 13 years in blue-collar Indianapolis. Miami is the land of the fake tans, beach bums, hardbodies and cocaine dealers. Not hard to see why Peyton wouldn’t like it and wouldn’t understand it.
Denver would be a lot closer to Indianapolis in tone.
Phoenix…well, speaking from experience, Phoenix doesn’t really HAVE an identity, simply because so many of us grew up in other parts of the country and moved here for one reason or another. It’s also why the local teams don’t enjoy a ton of support; we didn’t just drop our allegiances when we moved out here. I remember going to a Dodgers-Diamondbacks game at Chase Field and being too chicken to wear my Dodgers jersey. We get there and probably 1/4 of the fans were wearing Dodgers paraphernalia of one sort or another. I understand that when the Cowboys, Raiders or Redwings come to town, the “home” fans are routinely outnumbered as well.
A similar situation to Peyton’s would be Brett Favre, who’s spoken several times about how out of place he felt in New York and couldn’t wait to leave.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Just to show that this is not just pre-disposed blind hatred for everybody on the D..(like the guys who refuse to give Al Davis credit for ANYTHING he ever did in his life)I will say that Seymour DID actually step up and make the kind of play a guy who is paid like him SHOULD make once in a while, when he blocked those fg’s at KC.
Someone stepped up in a big situation that time..and it was Seymour. And the Huff int. against Houston, that was really created by the pressure from Branch.
That’s all I can remember really.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
All i know bullies are dumb and when they get their azz kicked its twice as bad on em
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Thank you.
And Hue was too dumb to realize this, and thought the whole “build a bully” was a cool tagline.
We weren’t laughing with you Hue, we were laughing at you.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I went to the AZ-Raiders game two years ago, and I would say it was 35-30% Raider fans.
I thought it was a majority of Raider fans, until the Cardinals housed the opening kickoff and that place was freaking rocking, lol.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Hugh got what he d served he sucked at being a head coach no discipline through the team under the bus I was so glad when they fired his a–!!
March 11th, 2012 at 9:19 am
We tend to blame Bresnahan for the D’s failings but Hue WAS the HC and that was ultimately his responsibility too.
It’ll be interesting to see what kind of team takes the field in about…19 weeks? Uggggh.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:20 am
If manning signs with the broncos I hope we end his career the first time we play them.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Hue did a great job motivating players for the first 1.5 years he was here, and I think he was a pretty decent X and O’s guy as far as game-planning through the week, and I think the practice tempo was in dire need of a change when Hue got here, and he definately improved upon it.
But the man was ROUTINELY outcoached on Sunday’s, would get his pants coached off him in half-time adjustments, and by the end of his time here, the team was getting worse, not better.
Hue Jackson will be addition by subtraction.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Not at all worried about Peyton.
They aren’t going to win a Super Bowl in Denver, and hell they just won the division and a playoff game, I don’t even think they would improve upon that.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:22 am
The relationship of dollars for production mean everything. Despite what some around here say.
TK could be replaced and not miss a beat. That’s $6M to fill other needs.
Wimbley? His production is not worth the $4.5M additional they have to pay over and above the $6 guaranteed.
You telling me he made $4.5M worth of plays….plus you clear him out now and you gain a bunch of money next year.
Some fans are just happy to see the Raiders play some ball.
Some of us want to see them win some games.
Being proactive in demanding production for the amount of pay is essential.
Clean house Reggie!
March 11th, 2012 at 9:24 am
The relationship of dollars for production mean everything. Despite what some around here say.
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Co-sign.
The whole “it’s not your money, why do you care what a player makes, why are you obsessed with what another grown man earns” is the stupidest, and most adolescent argument on here.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:26 am
You talk to teams that win Super Bowls, and they will all tell you that you win Super Bowls in May and June, not in December and January.
Part of that, is the managing of the cap, draft and FA’s and roster cuts.
Not rocket science.
March 11th, 2012 at 9:29 am
In a world with no salary cap and no guaranteed money….then the argument about “it’s not your money” is somewhat relevant.
But that is not how the NFL works. Overpay for Seymour, TK, Wimbley and Routt…..can’t make moves to get guys like Williams or Finnegan….or others.
The Raiders are gettting no production for all the pay….and can’t substantively improve the roster to get production from someone else.
Why? Because TK, Wimbley, Routt and Seymour have this team way over the cap.
Salary cap management is just as important as 3rd down conversions…..
March 11th, 2012 at 9:33 am
I just want to see my beloved raiders win games i dont care how they win as long as they win. All this talk about how terrible palmer is and how old Seymour is and Wimbley getting too much $$ i say eff it, pay em wat you will at the end of the day its not my money i just watch and go to the occasional game when i can afford the drive up there from LA
if the guy is playing with the raiders n wears the silver n black support em its your freaking teammm!! You should want each and every single one of em to succeed just saying. Anyway im done. Paz.
March 11th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
HADLINE DOESNT NO WHAT HE SAYING KNOW THE TEAM BEFORE U MAKE UNEDUCATED STATEMENTS
March 11th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Hardline Says:
March 10th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Why doesn’t Tim Brown, (or any interviewee for that matter), tell the truth.
The Raiders were ruled by a madman, who didn’t fully own the team, and who should have been kicked to curb 20 years ago.
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You rock, dude. A man after my own sentiments. Just look at the salary cap mess he left behind. And what to show for it?
March 11th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
After what Tim Brown said a few years ago about John Madden, I don’t listen to a single word he says, and, quite frankly, Cliff Branch deserves to be in the HOF more than Brown does.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Reggie didn’t have any guys this is his 1st GM gig…
So to say “his guys” means his choices… What’s the confusion?!?!?!?!?!
RAy guy will finally make into the HOF in the next 4/5 years Then Plunket, Flores and Lester Hayes. Timmy the Brown will take mnore time had we kept Chucky he would be sporting a ring as well as a HOF one. losing to chucky will be the excuse thety will use to keep him out thou eventually he should make it…
May he live a long time But that won’t happen until after, (unfortunately) he’s dead.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!