Bryant gets 2nd-round tender from Raiders
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, March 13th, 2012 at 4:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders placed a second-round tender on restricted free agent Desmond Bryant. That means that the Raiders are entitled to a second-round draft pick as compensation if Bryant is offered a contract by another team and the Raiders refuse to match the offer.
In other news, the Raiders declined to make a qualifying offer to safety Jerome Boyd. Therefore, Boyd is free to sign with any team, with the Raiders not entitled to any compensation if he signs elsewhere.
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March 13th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Good so far, but we need to start signing people!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
NO! We can’t lose Boyd!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
That is about what Bryant is worth, I like the guy but I’d take a second for him.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Bills are going to have a formidible line. They are dedicate to making visting FA Mario Williams “the highest paid defensive player in the League.”
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Cinco
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
What about Reece?!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
yo
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
LBRAIDERS Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Prior going to back up Palmer!!
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Learn how to smell his name first retard.
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You’re going to call someone a retard because of a spelling error? LMAO what is his name supposed to smell like, genius?
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I was hoping to keep Chaz. I realize he’d be our 5th WR and all, but I always like his game … And the fact he got after Sapp last season.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Ditch the fantasies. We won’t be signing any big name FA’s RM and DA are going to do it with smoke and mirrors.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Kevin Boss is a a dilldo and is a dime a dozen!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Nnamdi21 the bills still will suck!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Boyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Say it isn’t so lol!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
LBRAIDERS Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Prior going to back up Palmer!!
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Learn how to smell his name first retard.
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You’re going to call someone a retard because of a spelling error? LMAO what is his name supposed to smell like, genius?
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I smelled it wrong intentionally. Get a clue Jackwad.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
If JC is willing to be a back up elsewhere and the Raiders have made no push to re-sign him, it stands to reason that he is leaving because: 1) the coaches think he isn’t worthy, even as a back-up, 2) Campbell just wants out of Oakland badly enough to be a back-up someplace else but not here, or 3) Campbell realizes that nobody wants to pay him as a starter ANYWHERE and since Oakland hasn’t offered him anything at all, he has no other option but to be Cutler’s back-up.
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I’m going with a combination of #2 and #3. Campbell doesn’t want to come back to Oakland, and he and his agent have gotten nowhere trying to get anyone to commit to him as a starter.
He and his agent are now on Plan B; take the backup money as soon as possible before Henne and others get it.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
I love Bryant’s game. RFAs rarely get signed, but I wouldn’t be shocked if some team made a play for him. Guy is on the verge of becoming a beast. Team like the Pats would be wise to try to vulture him.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
We are in a whole different place now that McKenzie is in charge, I think it is a better place.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I ant us to go after Eric Wenstin
March 13th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I like Chaz too..
March 13th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
LBRAIDERS Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Prior going to back up Palmer!!
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Learn how to smell his name first retard.
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You’re going to call someone a retard because of a spelling error? LMAO what is his name supposed to smell like, genius?
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I smelled it wrong intentionally. Get a clue Jackwad.
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that post brightened my evening!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Smart move by JC. Cutler never lasts a whole season.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
@#6… Reece was tendered.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Bills are going to have a formidible line. They are dedicate to making visting FA Mario Williams “the highest paid defensive player in the League.”
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Wow, what a commitment lol.
Anyone that signs Mario Williams is going to make him the highest paid defensive player in the league, or he’s not going there.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
resign soup!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Raiders scheduled to be unrestricted free agents today:
• QB Kyle Boller – let him go
• QB Jason Campbell – resign as U-QB
• RB Michael Bush – let him go
• RB Rock Cartwright – resign as ST
• WR T.J. Houshandzadeh – let him go
• WR Chaz Schilens – let him go
• OT Khalif Barnes – Resign as BU-OT
• OT Stephon Heyer – resign as start LG
• C Samson Satele – Resign as BU-C
• DE Jarvis Moss – Resign as BU-DE
• DE Trevor Scott – let him go
• LB Darryl Blackstock – let him go
• LB Quentin Groves – resign as ST & BU-LB
• CB Lito Sheppard – let him go
• FS Matt Giordano – let him go
I’m assuming there is no real demand for BU players and they are available at low cost. Exception, JCampbell. I’d be willing to pay a little premium for him.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
we need to upgrade in the trenches
March 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Soup will become just another back up.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
JC should sign with whoever gets Manning.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
resign soup!
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I agree with you bro!!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
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I wonder if he got a couple of toe rings?….
March 13th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Twocents Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Soup will become just another back up.
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it’s to bad because he could become our backup and not just anyone’s!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
NOW!~ 03-13-12: CAMPBELL CONSPIRACY EQUALS CUTLER’S LAST STAND
“Rumors of QB Jason Campbell going to Chicago as a back up has some Raider fans wondering whats up…”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
March 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Chi got marshall for a 3. Any of you semi’s still think we can get a 3 for ford?
March 13th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
The team we have is the team you will see next year…for the most part.
The players on the team have to play better and hopefully are coached better.
Removing a couple of the check cashers = automatic upgrades in attitude and tenacity and will allow the Raiders to make moves next year.
Offense has to step up….
March 13th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
NOW!~ 03-13-12: CAMPBELL CONSPIRACY EQUALS CUTLER’S LAST STAND
“Rumors of QB Jason Campbell going to Chicago as a back up has some Raider fans wondering whats up…”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
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Yo Dizzle, your sh*t don’t work. That’s cause your blog sucks.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Chi got marshall for a 3. Any of you semi’s still think we can get a 3 for ford?
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yeah a 3 + 4
otherwise known as a 7th rounder.
stop the foolish talk we are better off keepin Ford!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Boyd a FA?! Make it happen MCkenzie. The Raiders can still make moise in FA after all!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Post 34 is truth semi’s need to stop wishing
March 13th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I like “Soup” but I think his day of being #1 are over, a perrenial back up. But if he likes to play golf, it’s not a bad gig.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Post 36 exacty
March 13th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Post 34 is truth semi’s need to stop wishing
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right on, the truth will set you free!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Getting rid of jford is equivalent to cable calling plays
March 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
CODE BOYD! ALERT CODE BOYD!
Negotiations at the Oaklnad Liqour store broke down! Boyd got greedy when offered a Bag of Spicy Hot Doritos and Vitamin Water and reached for a pack of spearmints at 35cents, greatly increasing his salary cap hit!
Boyd could be the answer to replace Wimbley as a playmaker on an already thin Defense!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Seeing as I am in football withdrawl (actual games) I think I will watch one of the games I DVR’d ( I only DVR wins) IMO the 2 best games of the season were against the Jest and 1st SD game.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Yeah, we are so looking at the rebuilding year of the Raiders,.. NFL ticket, I don’t think so,….
March 13th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Getting rid of jford is equivalent to cable calling plays
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Stupid and lame lmao!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
What will I do with my Boyd jersey!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Boss, Routt, Wimbley and now Boyd, whats the world coming to.
I mean who’s next Girdono?
March 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Code Girodono
March 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
getting rid of Jacoby is the equivelent of bringing Jamarcus Russell back to the Raiders. Well… that may be extreme lol
March 13th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Cut Lechler!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Post 50 roflmao.. Brl the gift that keeps on giving
March 13th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Cut Lechler!
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I’ll assume you’re trolling…
March 13th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I will punt in his absence and will provide my own smelling salts! All I want Is 50k a year and a meal stipend!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Seeing as I am in football withdrawl (actual games) I think I will watch one of the games I DVR’d ( I only DVR wins) IMO the 2 best games of the season were against the Jest and 1st SD game.
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DVR all 19 next year, bra. Championship!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Jerrymcd JCampbell in `serious’ talks with Bears, per PFT. Guess he’ll back up Cutler, but not Palmer. Or perhaps Raiders didn’t want him back.
about 1 hour ago
Jerrymcd @RNSCOM Indeed, Campbell was a Davis guy. And that carries no weight in the new regime. MIght even be a detriment, in some cases.
about 1 hour ago
March 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Mom and Pop days are over I talk to Cliff Branch yesterday and he say’s that the Raiders are heading in a more modern way of doing things as far as the scouting department are concerned. BTW he is in Louisiana checking out DB’s
March 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Gio needs to be on the roster
March 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Cut Lechler!
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I’ll assume you’re trolling…
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Haven’t we talked about this before? I love Lechler, But NO PUNTER should get that kind of $$. Too many more important holes bro!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
49ers also interested in Chaz.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Jerrymcd JCampbell in `serious’ talks with Bears, per PFT. Guess he’ll back up Cutler, but not Palmer. Or perhaps Raiders didn’t want him back.
about 1 hour ago
Jerrymcd @RNSCOM Indeed, Campbell was a Davis guy. And that carries no weight in the new regime. MIght even be a detriment, in some cases.
about 1 hour ago
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The current value of being an “Al Davis guy” became apparent the minute Routt got the axe.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Seeing as I am in football withdrawl (actual games) I think I will watch one of the games I DVR’d ( I only DVR wins) IMO the 2 best games of the season were against the Jest and 1st SD game.
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DVR all 19 next year, bra. Championship
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That would make my year!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
The current value of being an “Al Davis guy” became apparent the minute Routt got the axe.
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That’s real talk.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I hope Bryant is the starter at the UT position.
I hope TK doesn’t steal reps from him.
Develop this kid.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
The current value of being an “Al Davis guy” became apparent the minute Routt got the axe.
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Man, isn’t THAT the truth.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
The Gio Boyd safety combo, one of the most formidable duos ever to done the Silver and Black.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
real talk= MR?
March 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Chi got marshall for a 3. Any of you semi’s still think we can get a 3 for ford?
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Why are so many interested in trading Ford. He’s a HUGE weapon for us and to trade him for a 3rd round (maybe) pick to select what? We know what we’ve got with Ford. What’s the likelihood we are going to improve our position with Ford? I just don’t understand people wanting to trade away a sure thing for who knows what. So we won’t be as active in the draft this year, get over it. Quit trying to give away our remaining good parts.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Chaz is good, man. Huge target. Real good hands. Not afraid to go across the middle.
He used to be blazing fast too but I think he’s lost a step with all the injuries. And injuries have always been the obvious hurdle with Chaz.
Still, if he’s past them someone is going to get a real steal in free agency.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
almost as good as Eddie Anderson and Ronnie Lott!
March 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
JB Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Chi got marshall for a 3. Any of you semi’s still think we can get a 3 for ford?
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Why are so many interested in trading Ford. He’s a HUGE weapon for us and to trade him for a 3rd round (maybe) pick to select what? We know what we’ve got with Ford. What’s the likelihood we are going to improve our position with Ford? I just don’t understand people wanting to trade away a sure thing for who knows what. So we won’t be as active in the draft this year, get over it. Quit trying to give away our remaining good parts.
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JB, smart post
March 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
HairyBush,
I understand your position on Lechler. However, overpaying for a player that OVERproduces….is not going to kill this team.
If the Raiders had a defense worth a shhhhhhh Lechler would be deadly
Paying top shelf for middling talent on the defense….or better put…that middling talent not EARNING their way is what kills the team.
March 13th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Soup is what we thought he was, a backup. But wait, if he’s as good as Misty claims he is, why a backup role? Where’s Misty?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Misty – Campbell needs your help. He needs a new agent! Clearly this guy doesn’t know his true worth…
LMAO!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Whos RSNCOM Jerry’s talkin’ too?
Oh yeah, thats right, RAIDER NATION STATION.
Whos beating the bigs with breaking news first? Oh yeah, thats right…
Who always knows the real deal with Oakland?
Oh yeah, thats right…
Haters gonna hate but they wait and always late
March 13th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Misty is moving to Chicago.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Jb, just so that you are clear, i am for keeping Jford, and not trading him.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Nnamdi21, why aren’t you covering the Eagles? Get that weak ass blog outta here.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Think Defense!!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
JB Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Chi got marshall for a 3. Any of you semi’s still think we can get a 3 for ford?
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Why are so many interested in trading Ford. He’s a HUGE weapon for us and to trade him for a 3rd round (maybe) pick to select what? We know what we’ve got with Ford. What’s the likelihood we are going to improve our position with Ford? I just don’t understand people wanting to trade away a sure thing for who knows what. So we won’t be as active in the draft this year, get over it. Quit trying to give away our remaining good parts.
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JB, smart post
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Except Miami got TWO 3rd rounders for crazy Brandon. Agree we need Ford.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
HairyBush,
I understand your position on Lechler. However, overpaying for a player that OVERproduces….is not going to kill this team.
If the Raiders had a defense worth a shhhhhhh Lechler would be deadly
Paying top shelf for middling talent on the defense….or better put…that middling talent not EARNING their way is what kills the team.
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I agree for the most part, It’s just tough for me to wrap my head around a punter really changing our fortunes as far as where this team is from a serious playoff push. It is frustrating becuase Reggie is in a tough spot with the cap and to sign any of our other needs some cuts probaly have to be made from some of our “stronger” positions. It sucks but I feel we be a better team in 13′ for it. just an opinion.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Michael Bush @michaelbush29 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
For all the knuckle heads out there arizona is the meeca of training for athletes. I would never do #business on twitter.
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That’s some real ass talk!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Guys like Ford haven’t arrived yet either. He’s still under the “potential” tag.
Injuries matter…can’t help the team from the tub.
Ford has “potential” but don’t crown him or any of the receivers yet
March 13th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Gotcha Thec. Just needed a topic opener. Yours somewhat worked. Glad to hear you are part of the sane group.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Corky good to see RMR is still without a life and haunting the blog!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Had Marshall on my fantasy team this year. First time I really watched him closely for an entire season.
Guy is a straight up beast.
I think if he had a top QB, a Brees, Brady, Manning or Rodgers throwing him the ball he could go for 2,000 yards. He’ll put up big numbers reuniting with Cutler in Chicago and the Bears got a steal. It is hard for me to picture any receiver wearing a Bears uni having a monster year, but Marshall is definitely a monster. Right up there with Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson in my book.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
The current value of being an “Al Davis guy” became apparent the minute Routt got the axe.
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Yep. “Machete” McKenzie has kept a keen edge on his blade…
March 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
QB Jason Campbell reached agreement with the Bears on a one-year deal.
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Misty packing his bags as we speak.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
RNS “Campbell signs 1 yr deal with Bears
March 13th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
HairyBush,
I understand your position on Lechler. However, overpaying for a player that OVERproduces….is not going to kill this team.
If the Raiders had a defense worth a shhhhhhh Lechler would be deadly
Paying top shelf for middling talent on the defense….or better put…that middling talent not EARNING their way is what kills the team.
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Exactly. Lechler may be overpaid, but the field position he provides is invaluable. Anybody else remember the Leo Araguz era?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
C Meyers is the most important FA we need. It keeps Wiz at LG and gives us a stud at C, also Satelelel can back up G and C if he takes a pay cut.
A close second is CB Porter.
Ok Porter is more important but I want Myers more.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Going to be an exciting next few days…
Whos the top Corner Backs we realisticaly can have a crack at, Saw Cortlan F might be linking back up with fisher…
LETS MAKES SOME DOPE AS* SIGNINGS BABY
March 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
I wonder why they are taking there time with the Hendo contract? Seems like a Cut or restructure could give us about 2 million more toward the cap. Is he healed up or something?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
With guys like TK, Seymour, Routt, Wimbley and Huff not making a single play on all those 80+ yard drives for the playoffs…….
……..makes disrespecting JC seem petty
March 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Nnamdi, just read your “article”. It was awful.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Bills offering mwilliams 91 mill should put an end to the Raiders getting himfantasy talk.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
AdamSchefter QB Jason Campbell reached agreement with the Bears on a one-year deal.
4 minutes ago
March 13th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Exactly. Lechler may be overpaid, but the field position he provides is invaluable. Anybody else remember the Leo Araguz era?
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that’s kind of an extreme example,
it doesn’t have to be that bad of a downgrade for half of what sugar shane makes!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Sorry for the political intrusion, but I just saw this great quote: “The purpose of government is for those that run it to plunder those that do not.”
March 13th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Not my site I tell you dumba-ss.
If you thought this was article was awful you’re clearly an idi-ot but by your posts we already knew that loser…
“Rumors of QB Jason Campbell going to Chicago as a back up has some Raider fans up in arms…”
The Campbell Conspiracy
meets Cutler’s last Stand?
03-13-12 4:00 pm pac
Photo / Getty Images North America QB Jason “Soup” Campbell
If Jason Campbell is willing to back up Jay Cutler in Chicago why isn’t he willing to back up Carson Palmer in Oakland?
THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR
As we’ve said many times this off season “Reggie rented Moneyball from Red Box”. Truth is he probably picked up on the Patriots using a simliar system while McKenzie was with Green Bay.
Chicago may be in a better postion to pay Campbell to ride the pine than cash strapped Oakland.
It may be simple as that.
With Mark and Reggie counting pennies now the suddenly cap conscious Silver and Black is hoarding its gold this season and looking for Reggie’s gut to tell him which bargain basement throw aways he can system fit and polish into production.
THE DAVIS CONSPIRACY
The Business plot of 1933. The Mob.The JFK assassination, Water Gate, Iran Contra, Clinton Gate. When aren’t conspiracys true?!
We were told we were being dramatic by announcing Reggie and the new regime would begin a blood purge to rid the Raiders of all things Davis and if one looks at the cuts made in staff, personnel and players…
Look, all we’re saying is Campbell was a Davis guy. So was Wimbley…and Boss…and Wiley…and Woodsen and…
MOTIVE AND OPPORTUNITY
As with any conspiracy there is usually a grain of truth within and frankly both of the aforementioned could be factors in Campbell’s departure, not as a starter but as an apparent back up for Jay Cutler in Chicago.
Remember, Campbell stated and everyone reported he would not stay a Raider because he wanted to start and would get that opportunity. If the Chicago rumors are true and Campbell does back up Cutler, what gives?
The fact is, Jay Cutler has been a bit of a let down and whether they’ll admit it freely or not, some say hes kind of a prima donna.
Those in the know think Campbell will be brought in as back up AND as insurance because the Bears think 2012 is Cutler’s last stand.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Camp UDFA
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
HairyBush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
JB Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Chi got marshall for a 3. Any of you semi’s still think we can get a 3 for ford?
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Why are so many interested in trading Ford. He’s a HUGE weapon for us and to trade him for a 3rd round (maybe) pick to select what? We know what we’ve got with Ford. What’s the likelihood we are going to improve our position with Ford? I just don’t understand people wanting to trade away a sure thing for who knows what. So we won’t be as active in the draft this year, get over it. Quit trying to give away our remaining good parts.
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JB, smart post
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Agreed, I think some folks just gotta flap them lips, er keyboard!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Will J Ford be starting next year, or will it be DHB?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Whos RSNCOM Jerry’s talkin’ too?
Oh yeah, thats right, RAIDER NATION STATION.
Whos beating the bigs with breaking news first? Oh yeah, thats right…
Who always knows the real deal with Oakland?
Oh yeah, thats right…
Haters gonna hate but they wait and always late
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Dude, I posted about Campbell going to Chicago YESTERDAY.
Get over yourself.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Nnamdi, quit before I humiliate you more in front of the other blog dweebos. I own you. You are now one of minions.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Damn, my POS ssslloowww computer…. Scooped..
March 13th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Campbell signed as a back up. Go figure.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Lets see we’re about a million under the cap now…Hendo cut/restructure, His contract is 4million, Wimbleys contract is 11 million minus the 6million gauranteed, is that another 4million in cap savings? By my semi-pro observation, is that 8million in cap-space once we get rid of Wimbley and Henderson?
Not bad if thats the case.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Kam to the Pats? they love them some x- Raiders!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Kerry Collins is still playing right? At least he can complete a deep ball.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
You are now one of minions.
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Beeeech, did u get banned?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
He’s a HUGE weapon for us
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You mean has the potential to be, right?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Nnamdi, quit before I humiliate you more in front of the other blog dweebos. I own you. You are now one of minions.
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Thats right RMR, get all possessive and creepy. I give it 4 more posts before you break out the Sandusky ho-mo references lol!
Somethings never change
March 13th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Camp UDFA
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That’s about it. Have to eat those big, bloated and wasted contracts given to useless guys like Seymour, TK, Huff, Wimbley and Routt.
All that money and no production.
With Wimbley and Routt out of here, it will give some young hungry guys an outstanding opportunity to shine.
If it doesn’t work…no big deal…might as well save the money if you are going to give up 90 Yard drives and constantly get gashed in the run game
March 13th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
adbrandt The question I always asked agents about their free agents was “If he’s so good, why isn’t his own team trying hard to keep him?”
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As Ralph Lawler would say: Biiiinnnggooo!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
104. Congrats. So did they.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
If it doesn’t work…no big deal…might as well save the money if you are going to give up 90 Yard drives and constantly get gashed in the run game
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what’s the difference right? might as well have that happen for less cash!lol
March 13th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Thanks J Camp for the memories…hope soldier field is slippery enough…
March 13th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
And broke bunch of other stories too.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
So, who runs as WR out of the slot this upcoming year? Ford, D-Wow or DHB? Which WR poses the biggest threat from that position?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Good Bye and hope you learn to Slide
March 13th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Peyton Hillis’s new home could be in Kansas City.
Hillis, the free agent Browns running back, will pay a visit to the Chiefs, Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
104. Congrats. So did they.
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I suppose the difference is that I’m not in here constantly pimping some second-rate Raiders blog and claiming to scoop everybody, and when you don’t get anyone to visit your site and read your drivel you cut and paste it here. Today, not yesterday.
As I said, get over yourself.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Boyd always got burned last season, receivers were scoring TDs around him and he could not tackle. Heard earlier TK is 9 mil against the cap; he should be cut so we can best use that 9 mil to pick up some players. TK with Seymour together were poor combo against stopping the run. Use Houston or ShoNasty in TK place.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Anyone know our cap situation post Wimbley and Henderson?
Is it true that those to contracts could get us 8 million under?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Anybody got the Bears blog link for Mystic? I’m sure he will want to post about Soup.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
C’mon RAIDERS…….make some NOISE!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Go fu-k yourslef Teach you f’in creep. I could care less whether U like it read it or wipe your azz with it. I haven;t beenon here for ever and a day but you’;re still here like a know nothing lil bish.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Vincent Jackson deal in Tampa: 5 yrs, $55.55 million, including $26 million guaranteed, $36 million in 1st 3 yrs, $26 million in 1st 2 yrs.
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Yeah baby!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
125. $6.1 mill what I read on CSN
March 13th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
JohnnyRaider Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Boyd always got burned last season, receivers were scoring TDs around him and he could not tackle.
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Code Boyd! How exactly are we gonna replace him!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
LOL, Teach schooling Nnamdi too. Nnamdi the perennial biotch of this blog, after Krappy that is.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Who can replace Jerome?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Go fu-k yourslef Teach you f’in creep. I could care less whether U like it read it or wipe your azz with it. I haven;t beenon here for ever and a day but you’;re still here like a know nothing lil bish.
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Uh huh. I’m sure this helps your credibility immensely.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Boyd got called a clown last year by Billick. That is his moment in the sun.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
134. Cred? With who you? Who cares what U think? lmao. Youre the one needs to get over yourself Creech
March 13th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
125. $6.1 mill what I read on CSN
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Nice, so with about a million under right now, what we’re looking at 7-8 million under?
That could bring some good folk
March 13th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I was hoping to keep Chaz. I realize he’d be our 5th WR and all, but I always like his game … And the fact he got after Sapp last season.
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Hear hear!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Boyd got called a clown last year by Billick. That is his moment in the sun.
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Link?!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
129.Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Vincent Jackson deal in Tampa: 5 yrs, $55.55 million, including $26 million guaranteed, $36 million in 1st 3 yrs, $26 million in 1st 2 yrs.
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Yeah baby!
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Why does that make u happy?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Code Boyd! How exactly are we gonna replace him!
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I’m 51 but in decent shape… I woulda knocked that wounded duck pass down vs Detroit!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Jason Choke Campbell just signed to back up Jay Cutler. LMFAO at the semipro-blogger and you know who you are!!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
138. SChil was off last season becuz after 2 yrs in a row off his feet his cardio was shot.
He stays healthy he’ll be good. Wish we would’ve kept him but another Davis guy bites the dust.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite :With the cutting of Jerome Boyd the Raiders are a reportedly 35 dollars more under the cap
March 13th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
133.raidertalk Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Who can replace Jerome?
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Do u have a link?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
142. See post 100.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Glass Shilings is gone too! Damn it all!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Been on other blogs and honeslty Raider have the best fans and the biggest fugging douches of all time.
99% of you come correct and then theirs Maude…
March 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
The fact that Jason C signed to be a backup to a QB that he has no chance of supplanting unless injury shows you what the league pros thought of him. These national writers who hardly ever look at the Raiders like we do on a daily basis had no frickin clue. All they did was see the W’s and never realized that JC was only riding our team’s coat tails.
I was right on JC the entire time. Back up at best. Never good enough to be starting material in this league. Good day to be a Raider.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Boyd sucks. Glad he is gone.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
http://www.codeboyd.com/Jerome
March 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
raidertalk Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite :With the cutting of Jerome Boyd the Raiders are a reportedly 35 dollars more under the cap
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LMAO
March 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
If I was running things, I would trade Ford for whatever I could get. That guy is a POS.
A few good plays and he thinks he is the next comming.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Off topic: breaking news
Monta Ellis and Udoh to Bucks for Bogut and Stax Jax?
Say What?
Say its not true but just heard it on Ralph and Tom’s show!!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Boyd was “the stick that stirred the Raiders”
March 13th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I’d like to apologize before I submit this comment-SnB you are an IDIOT,yes,capital IDIOT.How the hell can you claim someone who lead the team in sacks was not a productive player.Your problem shouldn’t be with the player but what he asked to do by the coaches because it would seem he did exactly what the coaches asked and he did it very well.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
LOL
Reggie can hit home town buffet 3 times with that savings!
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Raidertalk Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite :With the cutting of Jerome Boyd the Raiders are a reportedly 35 dollars more under the cap
March 13th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Ellis,Udoh,Kwame traded for Bogut & stephen jackson
March 13th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
149. No chance of supplanting?
Campbell is waiting in the wings. He knows Bears dont like Cutler and it gives him a yr to sit and learn yet another system.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I personally think Boyd was an “Al Davis” pick and Reggie Mackenzie hated him from the start…
March 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
If this trade happened…..ill cry for you Gs Fans
March 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Twocents Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
If I was running things, I would trade Ford for whatever I could get. That guy is a POS.
A few good plays and he thinks he is the next comming.
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That view is worth exactly 2¢.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Jerome Boyd signs with pats, Bellycheck vows to transform him into 2013 pro bowler and stick it to the RAIDERS.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
MOTHER FK!!!!!!
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Tjbwall Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Ellis,Udoh,Kwame traded for Bogut & stephen jackson
March 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Any Ws fans out there? Who can confirm Ellis/Udoh trade?
Know its off topic but its not like Oak. is making any noise and this is big breaking news.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I’d like to apologize before I submit this comment-SnB you are an IDIOT,yes,capital IDIOT.How the hell can you claim someone who lead the team in sacks was not a productive player.Your problem shouldn’t be with the player but what he asked to do by the coaches because it would seem he did exactly what the coaches asked and he did it very well.
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Exactly! What Lefty said…
March 13th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Not happy but I scooped it in here first
March 13th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I’d like to apologize before I submit this comment-SnB you are an IDIOT,yes,capital IDIOT.How the hell can you claim someone who lead the team in sacks was not a productive player.Your problem shouldn’t be with the player but what he asked to do by the coaches because it would seem he did exactly what the coaches asked and he did it very well.
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This Defense got SACKS last year!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
If the Bears thought JC MIGHT be their future he would have gotten a contract for more than 1 year.Face it,the only people who believe he is capable of being anything but a back-up QB in the league comment on this board.We will have a better BU QB this year than the Bears-whomever that might be.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Looks to me like Campbell was more interested in money than starting.
And people wished we had based our franchise around him??
March 13th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
MARK JACKSON I THOUGHT YOU WERE BETTER THAN THAT
March 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
If the Bears thought JC MIGHT be their future he would have gotten a contract for more than 1 year.Face it,the only people who believe he is capable of being anything but a back-up QB in the league comment on this board.We will have a better BU QB this year than the Bears-whomever that might be.
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Maybe yes, maybe not. Time will tell. As long as its NOT Boller.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Jerome Boyd signs with pats, Bellycheck vows to transform him into 2013 pro bowler and stick it to the RAIDERS.
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Next Superbowl, Boyd 20 yards behind victor cruz allowing the game winning touchdown…tackles the air and falls down…beautifully
March 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
The W’s can kiss my FK’n ass if they did this! I was about to buy ticks for the Sac game next week…GO TO HELL GSW if this is true.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
This Defense got SACKS last year!!!
169.lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
If the Bears thought JC MIGHT be their future he would have gotten a contract for more than 1 year.Face it,the only people who believe he is capable of being anything but a back-up QB in the league comment on this board.We will have a better BU QB this year than the Bears-whomever that might be.
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Not if its Lienart
March 13th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
I’d like to apologize before I submit this comment-SnB you are an IDIOT,yes,capital IDIOT.How the hell can you claim someone who lead the team in sacks was not a productive player.Your problem shouldn’t be with the player but what he asked to do by the coaches because it would seem he did exactly what the coaches asked and he did it very well.
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Take out the 4 sacks he had against that blocking dummy they put in a jersey in SD and Wimbley only had one more sack than either of our SAFETIES! He made about 1 million less than JARED ALLEN last year and Allen had MORE than 3 times as many sacks. Wimbley isn’t getting cut because of what he did, its because of what he didn’t do. If he was a 7 mill a year player he wouldn’t be cut. Make no mistake about it, he aint getting more than 7 mill anywhere else either.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
All you guys cracking jokes about Boyd getting cut while simultaneously calling for TK, Wimbley to go and celebrating Routt getting cut: do you realize that more often than not late round picks and ufas are Boyd caliber players and that’s the type of player you’d be replacing those other guys with?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I could understand trading a Ellis package but take a look at what the Ws get JB return! Really!?!?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
BOGUT HAS WORSE KNEES THAN CHAZ THE GLASS,KENNY SMITH & BYNUM COMBINED
March 13th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Get in return
March 13th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
If we cut Chaz and keep Murphy, I will start to have suspicions about McK being the right hire…
March 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Bcz24-Kelly lead the team in sacks,not Wimbley.And he did it as an interior lineman,not as a pass rushing DE/outside linenbacker.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
176. Wimbley with the ONE pass rush move. That dip is good but he disappears for games at a time. Over rated. Over paid. Over it.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/jason-campbell-is-jay-cutlers-new-backup-in-chicago/
March 13th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Chaz is a FA.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
149. No chance of supplanting?
Campbell is waiting in the wings. He knows Bears dont like Cutler and it gives him a yr to sit and learn yet another system.
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You dumber than the Warriors ass h*le!
March 13th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
If the Bears thought JC MIGHT be their future he would have gotten a contract for more than 1 year.Face it,the only people who believe he is capable of being anything but a back-up QB in the league comment on this board.We will have a better BU QB this year than the Bears-whomever that might be.
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Yep. Also, by grabbing Marshall from the Fins today they solidified their commitment to Cutler. He and Marshall were teammates in Denver and worked very well together.
Chicago has been getting by with subpar WRs for a long time. I’m sure Cutler is ecstatic that he actually has a playmaking WR to throw to now. Hester is a ST playmaker, but not so much as a receiver.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
181. Chaz is hostory. Hes in Arizona with the Cards right now then hes flying to the 9ers then the Jets. Murphy will stay and make us pay with drops and alligator arms
March 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Is this Yahoo report true? Monta + Udoh/Kwame for Bogut/SJack? No picks? I really hope GSW is getting more in the deal than that.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
All you guys cracking jokes about Boyd getting cut while simultaneously calling for TK, Wimbley to go and celebrating Routt getting cut: do you realize that more often than not late round picks and ufas are Boyd caliber players and that’s the type of player you’d be replacing those other guys with?
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EXACTLY. Resign Boyd. Immediately
March 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Jason Campbell > Carson Palmer.
Palmer is so overrated.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Shut up Nnamdi. You dumber than sh*t.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
overrated on this blog
March 13th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
176. Wimbley with the ONE pass rush move. That dip is good but he disappears for games at a time. Over rated. Over paid. Over it.
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Pretty accurate assessment. Without that SD game against a 3rd string OLT, he’d be rated as a below average regular pass rusher. He’s also terrible in coverage and doesn’t play the run very well. Why again is he getting paid all those bucks?
March 13th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Campbell gets to learn another system. That guy could be an OC someday.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
177. Actually Chris in Ny,I am not celebrating any RAIDER being cut, but of all the players names being thrown around, Boyd was probably at the top of the list.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Bcz24-Kelly lead the team in sacks,not Wimbley.And he did it as an interior lineman,not as a pass rushing DE/outside linenbacker.
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My bad. Forgot Kelly had that extra half sack. Carry on… Wimbley is still overpaid.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
I guess I can unfollow Boyd on twitter now.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Well, at least Chaz wouldn’t land in the AFCW… I can still root for him with Ar, Stl or the Jets.
Murphy’s scared to get hit… and never had great hands, but seems like a good guy.
March 13th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Boyd or Blackstock – that’s a tough call… LOL
March 13th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I wouldn’t mind seeing Wimbley back if he were to restructure for less money,but it looks like that might not happen.But in my original comment I was talking about Kelly,not Wimbley.Kelly led the team in sacks with 7.5 last year.Cam had 7-4 in 1 game.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Campbell gets to learn another system. That guy could be an OC someday.
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Well, it takes him two years… and he’s on a one year contract. He is just in it for the money now. Obviously.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RaidO Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Jason Campbell > Carson Palmer.
Palmer is so overrated.
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Bet you he could get a starting job in another NFL city tomorrow… JC couldn’t.
Im not a jc hater, I appreciate him being part of the solution here. I appreciate what he did for our team. He isn’t a better QB than Palmer. Period. It isn’t even a debate.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Glad to see VJax out of the AFC West. One less playmaker for the Dolts.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Jason Campbell > Carson Palmer.
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Thats kind of embarrassing. No friggin WAY.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
The Ws trade away all of my fav players. I effin hate the franchise……..
March 13th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Jc is so good even lousy teams in need of a qb wouldn’t bother.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Wow! Lots of movement today around the League but Reggie sitting on his hands.
We’re going Money ball style and pluggin in system fits rather than adapting to big ticket FAs.
Good plan since we have no picks or cash!
Have a good night Raiders!~
March 13th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Manning now between 2 teams. Thinking Broncos are one of them… Would really hate that but hope we’d crush him and take him out leaving Donks in a lurch
March 13th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Wonder where Bush will end up? Denver?!
Hope like V Jax he goes outside the AFC West
March 13th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
209-yea,right.Two days ago he was down to 2 teams then he added 2 more visits.Believe nothing until he signs.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
This has bust written all over it.
I close my eyes and have visions of fat Albert lying on the field while the play goes on around him.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
All these guys getting signed, but the poor Raiders have no cabbage to sign any play makers. This will be a rebuilding year, probably two just to get the money squared away.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
210. Agreed!
211. No doubt! So many rumors back and forth! Would love it if Broncos get saddled with Tebow for another year.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Bills are going to have a formidible line. They are dedicate to making visting FA Mario Williams “the highest paid defensive player in the League.”
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This has bust written all over it.
I close my eyes and have visions of fat Albert lying on the field while the play goes on around him.
Sorry bout the above post, forgot to paste!
March 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
It would be too easy to dump on JC.Since he signed outside the division good luck,thanks for giving us your best.I’m glad he didn’t stay as a BU with us because of the way he divided the fan base(not his fault).
March 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
213. No picks no cash, new owner, new GM, new HC, rookie mid-level staff.
Pessimism warranted but U never know. Have to see who we end up with and how the “system” works…or doesn’t!
Go Raiders!~
March 13th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
oldschoolraider Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Bills are going to have a formidible line. They are dedicate to making visting FA Mario Williams “the highest paid defensive player in the League.”
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This has bust written all over it.
I close my eyes and have visions of fat Albert lying on the field while the play goes on around him.
Sorry bout the above post, forgot to paste!
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Hes dominant but isn’t he hurt alot? Think we took him out last year with a torn pec when we beat them
March 13th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Dummy Scale
Raider Weapon > Nnamdi21
March 13th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I believe we now have the cash.I just don’t think Reggie wants to put a huge chunk of it into any of these players when he feels he can get comparable production for a lot less.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Camp UDFA
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Yup i reckon maybe 10 to 15 will make the 53 man roster 2012
March 13th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
209-yea,right.Two days ago he was down to 2 teams then he added 2 more visits.Believe nothing until he signs.
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Still can’t believe KC isn’t in the mix. Young team with weapons on offense and a tough defense.
Maybe Manning isn’t a Pioli fan or something, but when you consider he’s looking at Tennessee and Arizona there has to be more to it than “winning now”. Neither one of those teams is ready to make a run. I understand the Denver thing; they went pretty far last year without a real QB, but the Titans and Cardinals???
March 13th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
219. Says the Queen of the cross posters. I’m Nnamdi21. Have been for years bish.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
DONT U HAVE TO HAVE $$ TO SIGN YOUR DRAFT PICKS ? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I KNOW ITS JUST 3RD AND LATER UNLESS A TRADE IS MADE BUT STILL..
March 13th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Michelle Beisner @MichelleBeisner
Reports earlier that RB Michael Bush arrived in AZ to meet with The Cardinals. Although, MB is in AZ, he is NOT meeting with The Cards.
Vittorio Tafur @VittorioTafur
Ta-dah RT @michaelbush29: For all knuckleheads out there arizona is Mecca of training for athletes. I would never do #business on twitter.”
March 13th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
So a 2nd round tender for Des Bryant? I hope he stays. Think hes too small to play NT in 3-4 no matter how strong team mates say he is. (supposedly the strongest on the D line)
Better as a DE. Developing some pass rush moves too…
Have a good night Nation!~
March 13th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
BIG WARRIOR TRADE..
March 13th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Im out blog dweebos. Time to read a book while getting my Johnson slobbed on by some Spearmint Rhino babes.
p.s.
Almost forgot, gonna dig into my leftover bread sticks from Olive Garden. They finger licking good!
March 13th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
ET-it was reported before he started this process that he wanted to go to a warm weather site.That is why to me the Denver rumors were surprising.He is a southern boy and the owner in Tenn. is going gaga over him,plus that is where he went to school so he is already a local god.Also,Ariz is closer than many think.I don’t believe teams in the division think that highly of the whiners.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Listening to the news about the 3 stooges (i.e. Romney, Santorum & Gingrich) is as bad or worse than having to listen to a Meg Whitman ad. I’ve never seen so many losers all in one place. It really gets old after the second or third time around. They are all like a bunch of pimps pandering their wares to the uninformed populace.
Enough with ranting. Back to football.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Chargers angry that FA RB Mike Tolbert visiting Chiefs!
Go Raiders!
March 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
JB,I’m a Stooge fan.Please use a different example when describing those fools.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Doom on Chargers and Chiefs.
Chargers on the down spiral, Chiefs with good players and no QB.
Denver suddenly looking dangerous with Manning / Wayne / Clarke attached but we’ll see…
March 13th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
We should look at Tolbert as a Bush replacement. That is unless Reggie already has other plans. At least with Tolbert, he doesn’t take 3 shots from the 1 and not get in AND he can block in pass protection. These are all Bush shortcomings.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
JB,I’m a Stooge fan.Please use a different example when describing those fools.
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LOL! Yeah, I knew I was going to get that response. Pigs, Musketeers or 3 coins in the fountain just didn’t seem to work as well.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
ET-it was reported before he started this process that he wanted to go to a warm weather site.That is why to me the Denver rumors were surprising.He is a southern boy and the owner in Tenn. is going gaga over him,plus that is where he went to school so he is already a local god.Also,Ariz is closer than many think.I don’t believe teams in the division think that highly of the whiners.
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The warm weather has to be the overriding factor, Lefty. Moreso than “winning now”, as he has said. I agre with you about the Niners, also. One really good and very surprising year does not a contender make, necessarily.
Aside from Ross being a clown, it also helps make sense of the Miami situation and him not going there. Miami is warm, but he’s going to be playing six games per year in Buffalo, New England and New Jersey if he goes there.
Makes you wonder if it’s down to the Cards and the Titans, after all.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Finnegan to the Rams – $50M.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Campbell gone…
Who the hecks gonna be our back up?!
Somebody cheap I’ll bet…
Wouldnt mind if Soup finally got it right in Chitown. Decent enough guy just bad break after another after another so far…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
March 13th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Why’s every1 mad at the warrior trade? i love it, monta wanted out, we wanted to get rid of him, we got a top notch defensive center, can sit him out for the yr bc he hurt his foot, keep our 1st pick, and let klay keep improving. udoh hurts but hes not a center anyway, and isnt better than lee
1.)curry
2.)thompson
3.) wright/s.jax?
4.)lee
5.)Bogut
plus a top 7 pick in a loaded draft
OR
1.)curry
2.)ellis
3.)wright
4.)lee
5.)udoh
and no draft pick with the same team and problems next yr
March 13th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
238. lol! Already posted that bra. Get ready for some dip sh-t haters!
March 13th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
240. Really? Thought I was the only one posting those! lol!
Sorry, should’ve scrolled up!
Have a good night!~
March 13th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Wow, CBs at a premium in our passing League now.
We better hope Reggies gut picks us some good ones off the discard pile!
Have a good night Nation!
March 13th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Looking more and more like the Broncos will win the Manning sweepstakes. That could cause them to release Quinn. Quinn could be a good replacement for Campbell.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Jason Campbell is a Chicago Bear.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Man fk the Warriors.
I hope they end up with the 8th pick in the draft now and have to send it to Utah.
Udoh was their best draft pick in a long time, and we literally got nothing for him.
You telling me you couldn’t get a oft-injured C and an overpaid swingman for Ellis?
Why the fck did they have to throw in Udoh.
I hope they lose, I can’t stand this shat.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
[...] with any team, with the Raiders not entitled to any compensation if he signs elsewhere. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
March 13th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Schefter says Wayne resigns with Colts. So much for Manning reunion in Denver thank goodness!
March 13th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Manning wasn’t using the Donkeys to drive up the price.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Seymour, are you going to change your name when Bush leaves?
March 13th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Seymour, are you going to change your name when Bush leaves?
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No. I see more bush than any of you guys here ever will. Has nothing to do with the players.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
250-what are you a gardener?LOL
March 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Man fk the Warriors.
I hope they end up with the 8th pick in the draft now and have to send it to Utah.
Udoh was their best draft pick in a long time, and we literally got nothing for him.
You telling me you couldn’t get a oft-injured C and an overpaid swingman for Ellis?
Why the fck did they have to throw in Udoh.
I hope they lose, I can’t stand this shat.
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The W’s got ripped. Jerry West could not have had a hand in this crap.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
250-what are you a gardener?LOL
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hahaha. Good one.
March 13th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I’m sure it’s hard to root for a team (Warriors) when they do everything possible to scrue it up!!
Never seem to fail!
SMH…sorry a$$ team!!
March 13th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Man fk the Warriors.
I hope they end up with the 8th pick in the draft now and have to send it to Utah.
Udoh was their best draft pick in a long time, and we literally got nothing for him.
You telling me you couldn’t get a oft-injured C and an overpaid swingman for Ellis?
Why the fck did they have to throw in Udoh.
I hope they lose, I can’t stand this shat.
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I agree. This looks like something the old regime would do. I was really hoping the new one would be smarter, but it doesn’t look that way.
An old swingman and an injury-prone center that’s never lived up to his first overall status and currently out for the year with a foot injury for our best interior defender and one of the more dynamic scorers in the NBA?
It’s hard to believe.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Seymour, are you going to change your name when Bush leaves?
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No. I see more bush than any of you guys here ever will. Has nothing to do with the players.
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Hah! Sure you do.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
man my nuts hang from my nut sack like cherries from a tree, but I’d be rakin in the dough if I put them on the market. But you know Reggie is balancing the books with the Raidah payroll. At least the money is gonna buy some good talent after he’s done trimmin.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
The W’s is a cursed franchise. Never seen any franchise that screws over its loyal fan base like the Ws. Lacob is no better than Cohan. This is a fan base that shows up almost every nite to a packed house.
Back to JC, I knew the guy never had enough balls to be a staring nfl caliber QB in this league. The fact that he took a 1 yr to back up Cutler pretty much shows how much or lack of any will to be a franchise QB in this league.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Finnegan off the table.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
“Looks to me like Campbell was more interested in money than starting.
********************************************************* It surely seems that way. He picked a really tough crowd to please, too.
I disagree with the poster who said the Bears were not happy with Cutler. I think they really like him. That whole playoff hoopla the year before last is over–he really WAS hurt. His teammates like him too.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Jason Cole @JasonColeYahoo Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
CB Carlos Rogers about to re-sign with SF. Deal will avg about $7.3 mill per year
Retweeted by Jerry McDonald
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There goes another. Looks we may be playing DVD and Chekwa at CB.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Bears learned last year that you need a quality backup QB. I hope the Raiders learned the same thing.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Why the fck couldn’t we keep JC as a back up to CP3? WTF! JC had Raider all over him, maybe not as a starter, maybe so as a starter, but sure as hell as a backup. What the fck gives with that?
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
I just pray that Boyd does not get signed in the AFCW.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
wouldn’t want to face Boyd 2wice a year.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Bears learned last year that you need a quality backup QB. I hope the Raiders learned the same thing.
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You from Chicago? If so, you gotta be happy about JC goin to da Bears. I just wish the fck we woulda kept him.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
raidertalk Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
wouldn’t want to face Boyd 2wice a year.
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Would you quit with the Jerome Boyd trolling already?
March 13th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
No. I see more bush than any of you guys here ever will. Has nothing to do with the players.
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Women still have bush these days?
Maybe the ones that don’t watch porn or something… lol
March 13th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Can you imagine Jason Campbell with his slow release facing the blitzes from the teams in the NFC North?
I can’t.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Frogman Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Why the fck couldn’t we keep JC as a back up to CP3? WTF! JC had Raider all over him, maybe not as a starter, maybe so as a starter, but sure as hell as a backup. What the fck gives with that?
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JC didn’t want to come back. Given the way our dearly departed used-car salesman treated him, can’t really blame the guy.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Can you imagine Jason Campbell with his slow release facing the blitzes from the teams in the NFC North?
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Wait until the Bears fan see him play. And he thought he had it rough in Oak.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Frogman Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Why the fck couldn’t we keep JC as a back up to CP3?
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I think Bears had plenty of cap space, Raiders, not so much.
He left for more money… plus prolly pissed how Hue treated him.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Frogman Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Bears learned last year that you need a quality backup QB. I hope the Raiders learned the same thing.
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You from Chicago? If so, you gotta be happy about JC goin to da Bears. I just wish the fck we woulda kept him.
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I am in Chicago. I bet the Bears offered him more money than the Raiders were willing to pay.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I didn’t like JC as our starting QB,I believed we could do MUCH better especially after watching him.But there is no reason to talk sh!t about him now that he is gone.He did give his best while he was here.He didn’t sign in Den,KC,SD,or SF so I’ll wish him the best.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Cork and Jerry said many times Soup wanted no part of us anymore.
I think he would have took less money to leave.
Of course they both said some team would throw him a bunch of cash to start, so I guess they aren’t the best sources.
So with Soup’s world beating here in Oakland, he parlayed it into a demotion and a paycut.
Nails as always Mistic!!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Miami trading Marshall so quickly means to me they are going all in for Manning… he no likee head-case WR’s.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
So finnegan is off the list. Did carr sign yet? If no then we still have a chance there and tolbert might land with the chiefs so we should try to snag hillis and no way mario comes here now looking at all those big contracts that has been given so far. And no Vjax either he signed with the bucs
March 13th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
When free agency started today, Raiders had a league-low $639.96 worth of salary-cap space.
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LOL! This is f’d up man.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Cork and Jerry said many times Soup wanted no part of us anymore.
I think he would have took less money to leave.
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Could anyone blame him? During his two seasons here:
2010: “Grads, Grads, Grads”
2011: “Jason’s OUR Guy” …”This IS the BEST trade ever in the NFL”
I’d sign, get paid, and get the heck out myself too!
March 13th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Well the feeling was pretty mutual
March 13th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Finnegan off the table.
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If you’re talking about the Raiders, I doubt he was ever ON the table.
Some of these guys mentioned in here as being targets for the Raiders are going to surprise some folks with how much money they get, and then reality will set in about how relevant the cap really is, and how little flexibility we actually have this year.
Watching these guys sign with other teams for far more money than the Raiders are going to spend is going to be very enlightening for some.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I sure as hell hope the Raiders have a proven back-up to Palmer. Bottom line. Not some flunky who has proven he can’t play elsewhere and Pryor is still in the wings. Lienhart (or however the fck you spell it) may be the only choice out there, but he scares the schit outta me. This ain’t Carrolls league he’s playin in.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Raiders had a league-low $639.96 worth of salary-cap space.
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You left out a 6.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
When free agency started today, Raiders had a league-low $639.966 worth of salary-cap space.
I am guessing that is $6.39 million.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Hey the salary cap doesn’t matter right? I am sure the Raiders preferred to do nothing today, lol.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Frogman Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I sure as hell hope the Raiders have a proven back-up to Palmer. Bottom line. Not some flunky who has proven he can’t play elsewhere and Pryor is still in the wings. Lienhart (or however the fck you spell it) may be the only choice out there, but he scares the schit outta me. This ain’t Carrolls league he’s playin in.
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CP tree trunk will go down. Did you hear CP talking about doing roll outs and bootlegs in Knapps WCO? LOL. It will be TP time.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
BS. JC had the keys to the franchise. He was in control of his own destiny. JC has nobody else to blame but himself. Can’t believe people are still making excuses for him. He played bad enough to allow a Grad to challenge him. Did Grad ever challenge that red headed rookie in Bunghole? But then again, I never thought JC was worth anything after that first Tenn game.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Raiders had a league-low $639.96 worth of salary-cap space.
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You left out a 6.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
When free agency started today, Raiders had a league-low $639.966 worth of salary-cap space.
I am guessing that is $6.39 million.
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According to the list I saw, that would have been $639,966.
Cutting Boss added $2.5 million to bring us up to $3.1 million. Cutting Wimbley kicks it up to $7.6 million, and dumping Henderson makes it $11.6 million.
We’ll be fine.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
If Chicago thought they were screwed last year when Cutler went down,just wait until next year if he goes down again.I’ve tried to keep the high road,but this high praise for JC is so misguided.The guy isn’t very good.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Never liked building a team through FA. Looking forward to the late round draft and UDFA. In Big Mac I trust.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Raiders had a league-low $639.96 worth of salary-cap space.
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You left out a 6.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
When free agency started today, Raiders had a league-low $639.966 worth of salary-cap space.
I am guessing that is $6.39 million.
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I am sure he tweeted that because it is $639.966
Raiders have no money to do anything in FA. Great job Reggie. It’s not all your fault though.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I didn’t like JC as our starting QB,I believed we could do MUCH better especially after watching him.But there is no reason to talk sh!t about him now that he is gone.He did give his best while he was here.He didn’t sign in Den,KC,SD,or SF so I’ll wish him the best.
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He was a class act as a Raider. Deserves props. Does still look like he was mostly interested in money over being a starter though.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
wasbanned Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
When free agency started today, Raiders had a league-low $639.96 worth of salary-cap space.
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That’s enough right there to make Michael Bush a fair offer and pick up the tab at that Steakhouse Manning ate at last week when the waiter got fired for posting the receipt.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Not as much of a need for a backup QB with Palmer at QB than Soup.
No chance of Palmer getting benched, and I think he is durable enough.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I am sure he tweeted that because it is $639.966
Raiders have no money to do anything in FA. Great job Reggie. It’s not all your fault though.
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How is ANY of it his fault?
March 13th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Great job Reggie. It’s not all your fault though.
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None of it is his fault.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Raiders had a league-low $639.96 worth of salary-cap space.
Raiders!!!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I’m glad we weren’t active this 1st day of free agency.How often do any of these guys that sign for outrageous contracts pan out?Sure,there are exceptions,but by and large you can get cheaper players and achieve the same results.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Vincent Jackson will never live up to his new contract or any of that guaranteed money. Lefty12 is right on #297.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
As a fan, I am enjoying watching the methodical change in the Raiders’ organization and in their way of doing business.
I’d like as much as the next person to compete for the AFC West title, win a playoff game or two, but if it would be nothing more than a one-year wonder, I don’t want it in place of a stronger model. I want the team BUILT, built on a solid foundation, not on sand, and I have to believe that Reggie M. and the new regime is better than anything, yes, anything Al Davis was able to provide in his later years. For far too many years, even before his physical deterioration became so painfully obvious, Al felt he was just_one_player_away_from winning the Super Bowl.
Maybe he was–one never knows when one will catch lightening in a bottle, but I always knew that even IF we had a marvelous season (we didn’t), it would be fleeting, gone almost as soon as it arrived.
Here’s to Mark and to Reggie and to Coach Allen and his staff in BUILDING a perrenial contender, the only kind worth having.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Anyway,if we had overpaid any of these players today,next year most would be here complaining about their contracts and how they weren’t worth what they are getting paid.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
This is the same drill every year… fans see other teams make moves and want something to happen with the Raiders. We’ll be a good but not great team next year, and then make a strong push for a title the following. None of this matters much… just something fun to talk about…
March 13th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RaidO Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Raiders had a league-low $639.96 worth of salary-cap space.
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You left out a 6.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
When free agency started today, Raiders had a league-low $639.966 worth of salary-cap space.
I am guessing that is $6.39 million.
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I am sure he tweeted that because it is $639.966
Raiders have no money to do anything in FA. Great job Reggie. It’s not all your fault though.
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It actually IS $639.96 worth of cap space. In other words the Raiders couldn’t even afford to fly anyone in. They would have had to sleep on Herrera’s couch, if he was still employed which saved another $42 grrr a year. Now you guys know why Al was trying to get extra “fixin’s” from KFC when courting free agents.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I don’t want any of these super high-priced guys, but I would like to do something other than waive our players today.
SOME TEAMS got better today, we sure didn’t.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
JFB,maybe we did by not doing anything.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Raiders are ready to win now. Got a QB. Got the best RB in the league for my money. Got a good o-line. Got a young, talented and deep crop of receivers. Got some additional weapons in Jones, Reece and Ausberry. On the defense we’ve got some talent all over the place from TK to Shaughnessy to Seymour to Bryant to Branch to Huff and more.
Need to figure out:
1) What’s going on with the LB corps and probably add at least one player.
2) Acquire an edge rusher, particularly if Wimbley and Moss walk.
3) Improve at CB.
I’m of the mindset that a good DC can make our defense into a top 15 if not borderline top 10 unit. DA will have to earn his money.
The thing I’m most worried about however is the offense regressing, despite all the talent, with Knapp replacing Hue.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Ohhh gawd… here comes the Al-hating. I am out…
March 13th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Anyone out there worth getting? Well, when we have more than 600K to spend…
Anyways, man what is The Warriors doing? As a Laker fan, I try to follow the Warriors because they are the home team, but they always made moves that makes you go WTF?! I know the Raiders have also done that as of late but…are the A’s and Warriors owners related??? The A’s just did that when they got rid of the pitching staff!
March 13th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Hwnrdr,
We have around $3 million. $600k before we released Boss.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Ohhh gawd… here comes the Al-hating. I am out…
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Sorry Just trying to be funny.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Misty – remind us again of the greatness of Jason Campbell. Why couldn’t he get a starting gig? Where are you Misty?
March 13th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Anyone out there worth getting? Well, when we have more than 600K to spend…
Anyways, man what is The Warriors doing? As a Laker fan, I try to follow the Warriors because they are the home team, but they always made moves that makes you go WTF?! I know the Raiders have also done that as of late but…are the A’s and Warriors owners related??? The A’s just did that when they got rid of the pitching staff!
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Idk, but let’s just be glad that our team doesnt make those kind of moves
RIP Gsw
March 13th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
If Reg Mac wants to free up some cap room I don’t see why we don’t just let Henderson walk. Nothing against the guy. He’s had a real good career and he can still play some when healthy. But no need to pay him $4.5 mil as an injury-prone 4th DT. This seems like a foregone conclusion.
My question is: where else can we free up some cash at this point aside from dumping Wimbley and Henderson?
Personally, I’d like to keep Wimbley but I realize we may need to shed some dough. Where else can we go? Seems like most of those other contracts have been restructured. What about Carlisle? He’s OK, but I’d rather see the young guys step in.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Adam Shefty tries hard to clown us!!
Too HARD!
If you read his post…he says “when free agency started today..” that was before Boss!
March 13th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
We can still release Henderson to clear $4 million.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Sign T Porter.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
I mentioned I miss the Raiders being active in the offseason and guys say “I’d rather win and have a boring offseason”. That’s fine and dandy, but is anyone going to GUARANTEE this “do nothing but cut players and hope we get some scraps” approach is going to result in wins?
Yeah. I miss the Raiders being offseason “players”. So what.
March 13th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Break it down for us Misty. Why is Campbell signing up to hold a clipboard for Cutler?
March 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Giants,Pats,Steelers,Ravens,Packers,,not a bad group to be associated with right now…no FA moves
March 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
JFB,
37 pts and 16 boards?????
Yeah, dude is terrible.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I’d rather have JC and those draft picks, than Carson Palmer. I think that’s the point Banana. Now go stick it.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Bynum’s a beast.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Someone said Michael Lombardi is a “Class A Raider hater”.
The guy has been going out of his way to be complimentary toward Raiders.
I heard him at the combine going on and on about Al Davis and how Al is missed at the combine. He even told a story on how he and Belichik “stole” (yes that’s the word he used) ideas from Al Davis and implemented them in Cleveland with Belichik.
Also, it’s more often than not that he mentions his years spent in Oakland as a front office guy.
As far as the new administration is concerned? I don’t know.
I always kind of liked Lombardi.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
PFT’s top 100 free agents: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/the-free-agent-hot-100/
Guys I’d be interested in on the list (being semi-practical, not a fantasy wish list and not saying we could get that many, just guys who I’d consider):
5. Chargers offensive tackle Jared Gaither.
8. Chiefs cornerback Brandon Carr.
10. Saints offensive guard Carl Nicks.
12. Texans offensive tackle Eric Winston.
14. Falcons defensive end John Abraham.
20. Falcons linebacker Curtis Lofton.
26. Redskins safety LaRon Landry.
33. Saints cornerback Tracy Porter.
50. Redskins linebacker London Fletcher.
61. Saints defensive tackle Aubrayo Franklin.
65. Raiders center Samson Satele.
83. Rams center Jason Brown.
85. Raiders defensive end Jarvis Moss.
91. Raiders defensive end Trevor Scott.
97. Seahawks tight end John Carlson.
99. Colts tight end Dallas Clark.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
CB market is very thin right now. I have faith that DVD and Chekwa could be coached up, and maybe Huff switches to CB.
Personally, I’d rather add Landry and move Huff to CB than sign Porter.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
KK – no, misty believes JC is head and shoulders better than Palmer even without the picks. But I wasn’t talking to u. Buzz off and mind your own business.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Chris, you missing alot of guys off that list
March 13th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
They are pretty happy about getting Campbell in Chicago tonight.
Especially after the Caleb Hanie disaster last yr.
They mentioned his winning record with Raiders and how he was well on his way to leading us to the playoffs before getting injured.
I was wrong. I expected JC to get a starter’s gig somewhere.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
If Reg Mac wants to free up some cap room I don’t see why we don’t just let Henderson walk. Nothing against the guy. He’s had a real good career and he can still play some when healthy. But no need to pay him $4.5 mil as an injury-prone 4th DT. This seems like a foregone conclusion.
My question is: where else can we free up some cash at this point aside from dumping Wimbley and Henderson?
Personally, I’d like to keep Wimbley but I realize we may need to shed some dough. Where else can we go? Seems like most of those other contracts have been restructured. What about Carlisle? He’s OK, but I’d rather see the young guys step in.
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I’d release JHenderson & Carlisle. I’d restructure DMac & DHB. Houston might be looking at also for restructuring. That’d be a start.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
The #18 pick and a QB who thinks of himself as a backup next year?
March 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I was wrong too, thought JC would start somewhere too, but there are so many QBs out there he got unlucky again, but anyone know if we will recieve compensation for campbell?
March 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
My question is: where else can we free up some cash at this point aside from dumping Wimbley and Henderson?
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Between McFadden, Lechler and Henderson, there is another 16 MILLION RIGHT THERE!!
March 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I’d rather have JC and those draft picks, than Carson Palmer. I think that’s the point Banana. Now go stick it.
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You have to have a marquee Q to win in this league. Last years final four, had two overall number one’s, a future Hall of Famer and a Pro Bowler starting at the Q positions. Glad you want to keep JC?
March 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Between Kelly & Dhb I think there is 15m
March 13th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
CB market is very thin right now. I have faith that DVD and Chekwa could be coached up, and maybe Huff switches to CB.
Personally, I’d rather add Landry and move Huff to CB than sign Porter.
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There are a few lesser options and thats the route Reggies gonna take this team. We’re going budget scrubs / system fits. Thats the new Raider way like it or not.
Its moneyball y’all!
Have a good night Nation!~
March 13th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
320-and KK you are always complaining about losing?Palmer minus the pick gives us a better chance to win than JC with the pick.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Tjbwall Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Between Kelly & Dhb I think there is 15m
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I don’t think that is right. Kelly is high, but DHB only had a million dollar salary last year. I don’t think he goes from $1mm to $7mm in a year.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Need Dmac for 16 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I was wrong too, thought JC would start somewhere too, but there are so many QBs out there he got unlucky again, but anyone know if we will recieve compensation for campbell?
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No comp or at least nothing too drastic. He was an UFA, signed w/ chicago as a backup, so I would not expect much of anything.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Tjbwall Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Between Kelly & Dhb I think there is 15m
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I don’t think that is right. Kelly is high, but DHB only had a million dollar salary last year. I don’t think he goes from $1mm to $7mm in a year.
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okay..we are both thinking then i know kelly makes atleast 9 this year and Im “thinking” about 6 for Dhb
March 13th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Kelly’s salary I believe is about 2.25 Mil.DHB also has a low salary.Their cap hit is greater due to bonuses.Pretty difficult to save money messing with their contracts.BTW,I could be totally wrong,lol.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Dude…I was just reading some of the comments that bronco fans were posting about the possibility of landing manning. those fans are f’n stupid and they love them some tebow…like I said they are f’n stupid.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Tjbwall Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Tjbwall Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Between Kelly & Dhb I think there is 15m
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I don’t think that is right. Kelly is high, but DHB only had a million dollar salary last year. I don’t think he goes from $1mm to $7mm in a year.
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okay..we are both thinking then i know kelly makes atleast 9 this year and Im “thinking” about 6 for Dhb
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Ok im reading here and its saying Kelly is 6m cap this yr and Dhb is @ 5.2m cap….so easily 11m between em
March 13th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Ok im reading here and its saying Kelly is 6m cap this yr and Dhb is @ 5.2m cap….so easily 11m between em
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You are right with Tommie Kelly. DHB had a salary last year of $1mm, and his signing bonus really wasn’t that much. He is not a huge cap hit as far as I remember.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I’d rather have JC and those draft picks, than Carson Palmer. I think that’s the point Banana. Now go stick it.
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You have to have a marquee Q to win in this league. Last years final four, had two overall number one’s, a future Hall of Famer and a Pro Bowler starting at the Q positions. Glad you want to keep JC?
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Last 10 SB QBs:
- E. Manning
- T. Brady
- A. Rodgers
- B. Roethlisberger
- D. Brees
- P. Manning
- B. Roethlisberger
- K. Warner
- E. Manning
- T. Brady
- P. Manning
- R. Grossman
- B. Roethlisberger
- M. Hasselbeck
- T. Brady
- J. Delhomme
- T. Brady
- D. McNabb
- R. Gannon
- B. Johnson
Of that list you could point to Grossman and Johnson as average QBs who got there. Maybe even Delhomme, who was actually good during that stretch. But every other QB on that list including each of the last 10 to play in the game was a top flight QB.
Palmer is capable of that level of play but Campbell, while perhaps a capable starter, is just not to that level.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Need Dmac for 16 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I was wrong too, thought JC would start somewhere too, but there are so many QBs out there he got unlucky again, but anyone know if we will recieve compensation for campbell?
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Unlucky??? Besides Manning, he was the only non-backup on the free agent market!!!
Nobody considers him a viable starter. THAT’S why he won’t be starting next year.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I’d rather have JC and those draft picks, than Carson Palmer. I think that’s the point Banana. Now go stick it.
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I thought you were a CP3 supporter.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I asked steve during our tuesday chat and he said DHB recieved mostly all his guaranteed money and only makes 1.2 mil this year. and thanks seymore bush for answering my question
March 13th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Best of luck to Jason Campbell! He was improving here but I think he’d've been exposed if he’d played the rest of the season without DMC…Moore…Ford…Jones…
Have a good night Oakland!
March 13th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Well I wish JC all the luck in the world at his new team. I just wished he coulda been our back up if indeed he was about to be a back up for some other team. But HueJax is gone and I woulda thought JC would have considered that in the mix of his decisions. I do like Palmer but wish JC the best. Just hope he ain’t the Bears QB if we play them in the Super Bowl.
March 13th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
346. I’d read that too was that your question?! Good one! lol!
I was confused cuz it says his salary is like $5.5 mill but glad hes not killin the cap and is relatively cheap!
Hope he blooms into a true no.1 receiver.
Go Raiders!
March 13th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Why would the Bucks trade for Monta Ellis with Brandon Jennings dominating the ball?
March 13th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I’ve never been a huge Campbell fan, but I do think he could at least push for a starting job with the following teams (with Luck and RGIII as foregone conclusions but not factoring in Manning):
- Jaguars
- Jets
- Browns
- Chiefs
- Seahawks
- Cardinals
- Dolphins
- Bills
- Broncos
March 13th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Chris like I said you HAVE to have that marquee Q. That’s why the Colts got rid of Manning, why the Redskins paid a kings ransom to move up to number two, and why teams are stomping all over to get a shot at…..Manning. Jason is a solid Q, a solid guy, but he is not the marquee player teams want. He would be an excellent backup, and you can see the Bears learning from what happened last year to them.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Adam Carriker’s off the table.
I’m thinking Reggie’s waiting by design. A bunch of teams are blowing their salary-cap wads right now. In a week, there’ll be a bunch of guys whose preferred teams literally won’t be able to afford them. THEN Reggie swoops in and signs them to low-front-end deals with big incentive clauses. That way, if they don’t produce, we don’t have to pay.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
This new crappy Warrior’s deal makes the old crappy Warriors deal of Robert Parrish for Joe Barry Carrol look like the “deal of the century”. This can only best be described as a salary dump.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
The San Diego Chargers have agreed to terms with Robert Meachem on a four-year deal. He will make $25.9 million over the next four years.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
what do you not understand about acquiring a top 10 center for a player who wasnt getting them anywhere?monta and curry couldnt make it. thompson will be a better player for the team than monta. score more, no, but he’ll defend more, rebound more, and shoot a better 3 ball. plus we get a LEGIT center for the first time ever since ive been alive. hurts to lose the guy, but i like the trade for next year. like it a lot
March 13th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
353. i think so too
March 13th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Adam Carriker’s off the table.
I’m thinking Reggie’s waiting by design. A bunch of teams are blowing their salary-cap wads right now. In a week, there’ll be a bunch of guys whose preferred teams literally won’t be able to afford them. THEN Reggie swoops in and signs them to low-front-end deals with big incentive clauses. That way, if they don’t produce, we don’t have to pay.
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I would love to think that Duck but we really are in a bit of a salary cap bind. We all knew this day was going to come where some one would have to come in and clean up the mess. Look at San Diego right now. Rivers is lst on their payroll, but next was Marcus McNeil due $10mm-CUT. Castillo-CUT. Dielman-gone. They are freeing up a LOT of cashola. Thank the Good Lord for Palmer, and Seymour, because both those players could have pulled a Wimbley and not restructured. And the Raiders would have been effed. They showed real leadership and commitment to the team. All of this is the bad news, the good news is guys like Ford, Veldheer, Moore and Murphy really don’t make very much.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Vincent Jackson signs a 55 million dollar deal with the bucs? No way he was coming here. LMAO
March 13th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Seymour,
I thought the “sacrifice” Palmer and Seymour made just meant they both got more cash upfront.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Need a clarification.
When the Raids traded for Palmer, it was for a first this year and either a first or second next year contingent on the Raids making it to the AFC championship game.
Does the championship game stipulation apply to this year as well ?
If so, would the Raids be able to trade next year’s first or second if they desired to move up this year ?
How would that work ?
Probably a moot point, it’s doubtful the Raids are looking to trade either pick and an appearance in the AFC championship game is unlikely, but I’m curious how trades that are contingent upon team performance impact potential future deals, and what rules govern a situation like this.
If the AFC championship provision is applicable this year, my guess is the Raids could not trade either 2013 pick in this years draft.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Bogut is the white version of Ogden. WTF were the W’s thinking.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
355.wasbanned Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
The San Diego Chargers have agreed to terms with Robert Meachem on a four-year deal. He will make $25.9 million over the next four years.
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Of course they did.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
aig-raiders Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Bogut is the white version of Ogden. WTF were the W’s thinking.
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I was hoping you were gonna tell us?
March 13th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
The Raiders are hoping he can do a lot, having traded a 2012 first-round pick and a conditional second-rounder in 2013 that can become another first if Oakland makes it to the AFC title game in either of the next two years.
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per ESPN.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Need a clarification.
When the Raids traded for Palmer, it was for a first this year and either a first or second next year contingent on the Raids making it to the AFC championship game.
Does the championship game stipulation apply to this year as well ?
If so, would the Raids be able to trade next year’s first or second if they desired to move up this year ?
How would that work ?
Probably a moot point, it’s doubtful the Raids are looking to trade either pick and an appearance in the AFC championship game is unlikely, but I’m curious how trades that are contingent upon team performance impact potential future deals, and what rules govern a situation like this.
If the AFC championship provision is applicable this year, my guess is the Raids could not trade either 2013 pick in this years draft.
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I think Cork said there was a provision in there. No matter. Let’s say we DID trade next year’s first-rounder for a first-rounder this year (which could happen if some top-ten guy that Reggie really likes tumbles down the board) and we make the AFC Championship. It would be a small matter to trade our 2014 first-rounder or some other combination of picks for that 2013 first-rounder, which we would then turn over to the Bengals.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
If so, would the Raids be able to trade next year’s first or second if they desired to move up this year ?
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Someone asked Cork that and he said yes… it would just be a stipulation in the contract. I doubt anyone would want to mess with it though…
March 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Is Don Nelson still running the Ws or something?
March 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Seymour,
I thought the “sacrifice” Palmer and Seymour made just meant they both got more cash upfront.
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Yes and no. I explained this the other day, which was for that kind of cap thing to work, the player has to extend the contract as well. So, we get another year or two minimum of each of these players. Now, I know some of you are thrilled at the prospect of more Seymour, but I watched the lst half of the Detroit game at the end of last season, and Rich played as good a lst half in that game as I have seen. Palmer was miraculous in that half as well. I don’t have the nerve to watch the 2nd half.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
And on the front page of Raiders.com, Campbell and McClain have been replaced by Palmer and Ford. That was fast!
http://www.raiders.com/
March 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
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There are a few lesser options and thats the route Reggies gonna take this team. We’re going budget scrubs / system fits. Thats the new Raider way like it or not.
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I don’t like it.
I’ll change my mind if I see division titles…and better.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
The part I don’t like is the “scrubs” part.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
I think Cork said there was a provision in there. No matter. Let’s say we DID trade next year’s first-rounder for a first-rounder this year (which could happen if some top-ten guy that Reggie really likes tumbles down the board) and we make the AFC Championship. It would be a small matter to trade our 2014 first-rounder or some other combination of picks for that 2013 first-rounder, which we would then turn over to the Bengals.
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That sounds a little iffy. The Bengals received either a first or a second in the 2013 draft from us. I don’t think we can trade either of them until we know which one is ours.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
The part I don’t like is the “scrubs” part.
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Our cap situation is not desperate, but it is tight. We can sign some guys, but we’ll have to wait until the first wave has signed, and the players left are getting antsy. THOSE are the ones you can get for the veteran minimum with some juicy incentive clauses.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Need a clarification.
When the Raids traded for Palmer, it was for a first this year and either a first or second next year contingent on the Raids making it to the AFC championship game.
Does the championship game stipulation apply to this year as well ?
If so, would the Raids be able to trade next year’s first or second if they desired to move up this year ?
How would that work ?
Probably a moot point, it’s doubtful the Raids are looking to trade either pick and an appearance in the AFC championship game is unlikely, but I’m curious how trades that are contingent upon team performance impact potential future deals, and what rules govern a situation like this.
If the AFC championship provision is applicable this year, my guess is the Raids could not trade either 2013 pick in this years draft.
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1) Championship Game stipulation applies to this year as well.
2) I believe the Raiders could make conditional trades surrounding their 2013 1st and second rounders. Gets kind of complicated. But they could trade the pick contingent on it being there, and if it goes to Cincy instead the deal would have to have some kind of backup compensation the teams agree upon (such as the same pick in 2014 instead).
3) Don’t rule out a Championship run this year. Don’t be fooled. This team is built to win now. Anything less than 2nd round of the playoffs is a failure in my book.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Need a clarification.
When the Raids traded for Palmer, it was for a first this year and either a first or second next year contingent on the Raids making it to the AFC championship game.
Does the championship game stipulation apply to this year as well ?
If so, would the Raids be able to trade next year’s first or second if they desired to move up this year ?
How would that work ?
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These are good questions. My understanding is the Raiders had to get to the conference championship game this last year, for the 2013 pick to be a lst rounder. So, right now, Cincinnati owns our 2012 lst rounder, number 17 overall and our 2013 2nd rounder. We could trade our 2013 lst rounder to get into this draft. At least that is my understanding.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I do like Palmer but wish JC the best. Just hope he ain’t the Bears QB if we play them in the Super Bowl.
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Next year? Its a one year deal. No way would I prefer JC over Cutler next year. Cutler would cut apart our crappy secondary we will almost certainly still have this coming season.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
That sounds a little iffy. The Bengals received either a first or a second in the 2013 draft from us. I don’t think we can trade either of them until we know which one is ours.
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Not really. Stuff like this happens from time to time. You just have to make sure that by X number of days before the start of the draft, you’re able to turn over the pick.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
“This guy can play and he knows how to play the game and he knows how to elevate the players around him,” Jackson said.
“There’s no question you go on offense as good as your quarterback is. I think he’s one of the best and that’s why he’s on this football team now. I didn’t bring him here because he was just a guy sitting out there. I brought him here because I think he can help this team win a championship.”
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This was also part of the same article. Remember when Hue tried to distance himself from having a major role in bringing Palmer to Oakland?
March 13th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
We could trade our 2013 lst rounder to get into this draft. At least that is my understanding.
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Correct. With a stipulation that if we don’t have a 1st rounder, we throw something else in.
Why would anyone mess with it?
Unless the “something else” is better…
March 13th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Not really. Stuff like this happens from time to time. You just have to make sure that by X number of days before the start of the draft, you’re able to turn over the pick.
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I believe you, Duck. Just sounds strange that we could trade a pick that we don’t even know whether we have or not.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
369.Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Seymour,
I thought the “sacrifice” Palmer and Seymour made just meant they both got more cash upfront.
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Yes and no. I explained this the other day, which was for that kind of cap thing to work, the player has to extend the contract as well. So, we get another year or two minimum of each of these players. Now, I know some of you are thrilled at the prospect of more Seymour, but I watched the lst half of the Detroit game at the end of last season, and Rich played as good a lst half in that game as I have seen. Palmer was miraculous in that half as well. I don’t have the nerve to watch the 2nd half.
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Thx. I guess they’re not giving up any $ per se, but they were willing to do something to help the team which is cool.
Schilens visiting the niners? Campbell to the Bears? Wimbley refusing to help?
I guess not everybody is excited about the new regime.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
s in NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I’d rather have JC and those draft picks, than Carson Palmer. I think that’s the point Banana. Now go stick it.
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You have to have a marquee Q to win in this league. Last years final four, had two overall number one’s, a future Hall of Famer and a Pro Bowler starting at the Q positions. Glad you want to keep JC?
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Last 10 SB QBs:
- E. Manning
– T. Brady
– A. Rodgers
– B. Roethlisberger
– D. Brees
– P. Manning
– B. Roethlisberger
– K. Warner
– E. Manning
– T. Brady
– P. Manning
– R. Grossman
– B. Roethlisberger
– M. Hasselbeck
– T. Brady
– J. Delhomme
– T. Brady
– D. McNabb
– R. Gannon
– B. Johnson
Of that list you could point to Grossman and Johnson as average QBs who got there. Maybe even Delhomme, who was actually good during that stretch. But every other QB on that list including each of the last 10 to play in the game was a top flight QB.
Palmer is capable of that level of play but Campbell, while perhaps a capable starter, is just not to that level.
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Really?? Then why isn’t Palmer’s name on that list?
March 13th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
And on the front page of Raiders.com, Campbell and McClain have been replaced by Palmer and Ford. That was fast!
http://www.raiders.com/
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Very interesting. Is that true that the site was featuring Campbell and McClain until recently? That strikes me as sad. A QB who was gone and a guy who has no heart were our featured players?
March 13th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
We could trade our 2013 lst rounder to get into this draft. At least that is my understanding.
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Correct. With a stipulation that if we don’t have a 1st rounder, we throw something else in.
Why would anyone mess with it?
Unless the “something else” is better…
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IF Reggie decides to trade the 2013 first-rounder for a first-rounder this year (maybe a 1 in 4 chance, but you never know) and wants to be sure, he could always call up Mike Brown and say “If we go to the AFC Championship, how about taking the second and a 2014 third-rounder instead?” Brown would probably say yes.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
s in NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I’d rather have JC and those draft picks, than Carson Palmer. I think that’s the point Banana. Now go stick it.
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You have to have a marquee Q to win in this league. Last years final four, had two overall number one’s, a future Hall of Famer and a Pro Bowler starting at the Q positions. Glad you want to keep JC?
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Last 10 SB QBs:
- E. Manning
– T. Brady
– A. Rodgers
– B. Roethlisberger
– D. Brees
– P. Manning
– B. Roethlisberger
– K. Warner
– E. Manning
– T. Brady
– P. Manning
– R. Grossman
– B. Roethlisberger
– M. Hasselbeck
– T. Brady
– J. Delhomme
– T. Brady
– D. McNabb
– R. Gannon
– B. Johnson
Of that list you could point to Grossman and Johnson as average QBs who got there. Maybe even Delhomme, who was actually good during that stretch. But every other QB on that list including each of the last 10 to play in the game was a top flight QB.
Palmer is capable of that level of play but Campbell, while perhaps a capable starter, is just not to that level.
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Really?? Then why isn’t Palmer’s name on that list?
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Largely because he played for the Bengals.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Welcome to Camp UDFA
March 13th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
And on the front page of Raiders.com, Campbell and McClain have been replaced by Palmer and Ford. That was fast!
http://www.raiders.com/
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Very interesting. Is that true that the site was featuring Campbell and McClain until recently? That strikes me as sad. A QB who was gone and a guy who has no heart were our featured players?
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If by recently you mean “a couple of hours ago,” then the answer is yes. I wonder if moving McClain off the front page is prelude to something, or maybe we’re just trying to humble him a little. Lord knows he could use it.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Seymour,
According to ESPN, the championship game thing is for both years. If we make there next year the Bengals get our 2013 first-rounder.
I posted a portion of the article at #365.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
3) Don’t rule out a Championship run this year. Don’t be fooled. This team is built to win now. Anything less than 2nd round of the playoffs is a failure in my book.
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I like the way you think, but I am guessing this is more of a two year plan. Our secondary has GLARING holes to plug…
March 13th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
DJJohnny-signing big name FAs is what got us into the cap mess we are in,if indeed we are in a mess which I don’t believe we are.A couple of moves and we could easily be 10 mil or so under it.The thing is for every guy we cut,we have to sign someone to take their place.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Jford on the front should dispel the trade talk between the semi’s
March 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Seems to me if they thought the team on the field this past season could win a ring they would have simply rolled the dice with Routt.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Really?? Then why isn’t Palmer’s name on that list?
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When you ask this question either, a) you do not understand the game of football, or b) you do not have any understanding of NFL franchises. But it is either a or b.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
3) Don’t rule out a Championship run this year. Don’t be fooled. This team is built to win now. Anything less than 2nd round of the playoffs is a failure in my book.
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I like the way you think, but I am guessing this is more of a two year plan. Our secondary has GLARING holes to plug…
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I don’t think it’s any worse than the Giants or Pats secondaries this season. Arguably better if at least one of the two second year guys plays well at CB. I’d say our safeties are easily better.
As much as it’s a passing league, I tend to think you can get buy with solid if unspectacular guys at CB. I’ll take a top notch DC over a top notch CB.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I really thought JC coulda gone to Seattle and been a starter there because he’s better than who they got. And KC coulda used a QB, and he easily coulda fit Arizona. WTF don’t these teams want a starter? Cold weather Chicago aint gonna be good for a one year healed broken bone. Fck those teams anyways.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
edward teach Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Seymour,
According to ESPN, the championship game thing is for both years. If we make there next year the Bengals get our 2013 first-rounder.
I posted a portion of the article at #365.
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Thanks for posting that. That clause was not my understanding, based on EXACTLY the question RAIDERMAN99 asked. If we don’t know what pick we have at the top of next years draft, it really limits what we do now. So, my understanding was there were performance clauses for this last year not next year. But I could be wrong.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
The Raiders placed a second-round tender on restricted free agent Desmond Bryant. That means that the Raiders are entitled to a second-round draft pick as compensation if Bryant is offered a contract by another team and the Raiders refuse to match the offer.
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That ain’t bad considering our picks are few. Always away to get around the picks. But I don’t mind giving away some picks for CP3 cuz we don’t always do well with 1st rounders. But we getta 2nd so we’ll be all right. ReggieMac is crafty, I like it.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
One Ball Man Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I really thought JC coulda gone to Seattle and been a starter there because he’s better than who they got. And KC coulda used a QB, and he easily coulda fit Arizona. WTF don’t these teams want a starter? Cold weather Chicago aint gonna be good for a one year healed broken bone. Fck those teams anyways.
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Obviously, their GMs don’t agree with you that he’s an NFL starter.
As for Chicago, he’ll be fine. He’ll be wearing a jacket during the game and his collarbone will stay nice and warm.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
One Ball Man Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I really thought JC coulda gone to Seattle and been a starter there because he’s better than who they got. And KC coulda used a QB, and he easily coulda fit Arizona. WTF don’t these teams want a starter? Cold weather Chicago aint gonna be good for a one year healed broken bone. Fck those teams anyways.
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That may be what you and many on here thought,but it obviously isn’t what GMs and coaches around the league think.Nobody but fans on this blog believes he is an NFL starting caliber QB.The only one who did isn’t with us any longer and to be honest,his evaluations of the position wasn’t exactly stellar.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Anybody got a list of free agents that probably won’t get signed right away and thus devalue their worth so that the Raiders may go after?
March 13th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
399 and 400:
I suppose. Sort of a brutal honesty. But I still wish him the best. Chicago made some moves this week. Their bonin up against their rival Packers.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Mario Williams apparently has left Buffalo without signing a contract, so the Bears could still land him to play opposite Peppers.
Glad we played them THIS year. Adding Brandon Marshall and possibly Williams, plus a healthy Forte makes them a legit threat to the Packers.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Really?? Then why isn’t Palmer’s name on that list?
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When you ask this question either, a) you do not understand the game of football, or b) you do not have any understanding of NFL franchises
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You’re making my point for me. The reason you see names like Big Ben, Rogers, the Mannings and Brady on this list is because they play more the model organizations in in the NFL. Teams make QBs, with a few exceptions. Unless this organization gets things straight, no QB is leading us anywhere.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
261.Mark Clemens Says:
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There goes another. Looks we may be playing DVD and Chekwa at CB.
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I’m sticking with my contention that I’m fine with ANYBODY who was on the field on defense in the second half against Buffalo or Detroit or SD could be replaced with practice squad players from other teams and somehow, someway those guys find a way to make a stop.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Lot of teams makin a lot of moves and spending a lot of money. Hope the FA pool ain’t dry by the time the Raiders trim their cap. Don’t really care for what Miami is doing. But maybe the Raiders will get it done from within. We’re cutting like mad and all of the other teams are spending. Wonder where this trend is headed.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
JC’s agent checked around, made some calls etc. and came to the conclusion that JC better take the Chicago offer now cuz nobody was gonna make him thier starter regardless of what Manning decides.
Otherwise, he would of stuck it out till the Manning “decision” was over.
I’m guessing JC has a bad taste about Oakland OR he was already told the Raiders really didn’t want him around…even as a backup.
I’m thinking JC wanted out.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Whoa!!!
Baldinger stepping out and saying confidently “I think with Brandon Marshall the Bears now will have a better chance competing against their division rivals the Packers and Lions”.
Really Baldy?
Thanks man.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
The Eagles went out and got every free agent they could get their hands on last year and look at all the good it did for them. Snapping up big names and throwing lots of money at them does not equal Superbowl wins.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Life is tuff when your owners like $$ mote than winning.. RIP AL..
March 13th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
I don’t know how JC felt about coming back, but it would be completely reasonable for him to not want to.
Also, I doubt RM is going to pay 3 million per year for a backup quarterback, which is what Campbell is reported to be getting from the Bears. Boller made less than half that, and my guess is that’s the ballpark figure in Oakland.
March 13th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
The warriors made one of those stupid trades I mentioned earlier today…
March 13th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Whos gonna be the mascott now that boyds gone?
March 13th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Niners sign Moss, now they’re looking at Brandon Lloyd, per PFT.
Alex Smith must be getting an arm transplant during the offseason.
March 13th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Now howard wants to finish the yr in orlando.. Should have taken bynum or rondo while the could..
March 13th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Texans not interested in manning..
March 13th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
I don’t think it’s any worse than the Giants or Pats secondaries this season. Arguably better if at least one of the two second year guys plays well at CB. I’d say our safeties are easily better.
As much as it’s a passing league, I tend to think you can get buy with solid if unspectacular guys at CB. I’ll take a top notch DC over a top notch CB.
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You make some very solid points. Well done. LB’s is still an issue though.
March 13th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
We need williams
March 13th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Also, I doubt RM is going to pay 3 million per year for a backup quarterback, which is what Campbell is reported to be getting from the Bears.
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Exactly. Not with a defense to fix. And Campbell and most of the WR’s were bro’s. A camp divided will not conquer…
March 13th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
You’re making my point for me. The reason you see names like Big Ben, Rogers, the Mannings and Brady on this list is because they play more the model organizations in in the NFL. Teams make QBs, with a few exceptions.
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I’d say its the other way around.
The only franchise playing consistent ball since the salary cap without a franchise QB is Philly… and McNabb wasn’t too shabby.
Look at SD… they are basically a grease fire at HC and GM and are prolly in the top 5-6 in w/l’s since River’s has become a franchise QB.
March 13th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
You’re making my point for me. The reason you see names like Big Ben, Rogers, the Mannings and Brady on this list is because they play more the model organizations in in the NFL. Teams make QBs, with a few exceptions.
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I’d say its the other way around.
The only franchise playing consistent ball since the salary cap without a franchise QB is Philly… and McNabb wasn’t too shabby.
Look at SD… they are basically a grease fire at HC and GM and are prolly in the top 5-6 in w/l’s since River’s has become a franchise QB.
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So what’s your take on Palmer?
March 13th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
The Eagles went out and got every free agent they could get their hands on last year and look at all the good it did for them. Snapping up big names and throwing lots of money at them does not equal Superbowl wins.
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So why were you whining about not being players during the first hours of FA today?
March 13th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
I told all you Campbell fans he was going to be history. Oakland is Carson Palmer’s town! Now let’s put a defense together!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Al Davis was legendary in his day, but he went out looking dumber than a rock! Threw good money at losers. Reggie has to fix the mess!
March 13th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Im whining.. I think we need soliai or williams
March 13th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Like a sinking ship off the coast of Oakland, spuds let JCampbell getaway from the team! It is time for meeting of the fans and reject what this team has to offer! I’m not a fair weather fan or hang in type of fan. Die-hard fan from the east coast! Moves that doomed this team and carry it to the highs. Bringing Spuds has been a disaster from the start. Unproven play from Palmer dooms us all for this season. Its the beginning of the end. Really raiders fans we’ve fallen to the basement and will be the door step for the division. But I remain a loyal fan but will not watch or attend this season or any other season until this team makes sense! Get rid of Spuds and Palmer period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Yeah, nobody was gonna offer soup a starting job.
March 13th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
jets express interest in wr chaz shillens
March 13th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
426. I hear the weathers fair back east.. Take off lame
March 13th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
The JC lovers JUST don’t get it: Campbell is NOT starting material; never has been, never will be. He won some games but all against lower tier teams, non-playoff bound, with losing records.
Now in his bid as back-up in Chicago, we have seen his worth: # 1 back-up and no more.
I am no CP advocate. As a matter of fact, I think CP will never be better than he was last year. But still, CP is worlds above JC.
I just can’t get past that bottom lip that hangs down to his knees, almost.
March 13th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
I hope all our free agents sign and play a ton. We need some extra picks.. No A.D means the draft will be key.
March 13th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
He didn’t let him get away.Reggie and Allen didn’t want him.It looks like nobody else did either as a starter.Loyal fans don’t make statements like I will not watch this or any other season until this team does what I think is right.Whether you like it or not,many of us loyal fans think what the team is doing not only makes sense,but is the absolute correct thing to do.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Dc,sorry you feel that way,when did you last attend a Raider game in Oakland?Were doomed because of Carson Palmer,excuse me!You happen to be related to Mystic?I didnt realize he had family on the East Coast,I think Id rather wait and see vs the sky is fallin.If You need tickets,give Beeech a ring,or MR,no Worries.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Idk why those guys thought cambell aka mr. glass could find a starting gig..
March 14th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Tonight’s Pool: Where does MBush end up?
Bengals
Your guess
March 14th, 2012 at 12:08 am
I think the expediency of the changes Mark made and how radical they are tell us just how much Al’s ways were supported in the organization. Basically it’s a whole new organization now, and everyone’s out but Trask. Al had a mutiny under him and all that stopped it was that iron clad control he had via his managing general partner title.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Bush to the queefs
March 14th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Bush to the queefs
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Hope you are right. He’ll be easy to stop (just stack the box) and he can’t block so that means more sacks. That’s good for us.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:13 am
dcraiderfan Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Like a sinking ship off the coast of Oakland, spuds let JCampbell getaway from the team! …..Its the beginning of the end. Really raiders fans we’ve fallen to the basement and will be the door step for the division.
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Are you sure you are as loyal as you say you are. WTH have you been these last 10 yrs? It’s the beginning of the end? We’ve been the laughingstock of the league since 2002 SB run. SMH.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:14 am
400.lefty12 Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
One Ball Man Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I really thought JC coulda gone to Seattle and been a starter there because he’s better than who they got. And KC coulda used a QB, and he easily coulda fit Arizona. WTF don’t these teams want a starter? Cold weather Chicago aint gonna be good for a one year healed broken bone. Fck those teams anyways.
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That may be what you and many on here thought,but it obviously isn’t what GMs and coaches around the league think.Nobody but fans on this blog believes he is an NFL starting caliber QB.The only one who did isn’t with us any longer and to be honest,his evaluations of the position wasn’t exactly stellar.
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Lefty,
I am a Raiders fan for many years. I knew after watching JC for 6 quarters, JC was a slug. It is that glazed look in his eyes, and that bottom lip that hangs way down.
The following are sample lyrics from part of a song I wrote on 10 / 22 / 2010 – a few days after I came to my conclusion about JC. Music to this song, “Ode to Alzheimer’s AL” is from the Beverly Hillbillies theme song:
“So AL’s still thinkin its 1969,
With a vertical attack everything’ll be fine
And Big AL know alls he gotta do, grab a Plunkett incarnate name of Campbell boo…
After 6 long quarters Campbells a slug,
ALs frothin at the mouth while Cable pulls the plug,
Overhead projectors burnin a hole, better turn AL out fore he has em all on the dole.”
So, I knew very early on about JC’s lack of ability to start in the NFL.
Finally, I must conclude that any fan who was an admirer or advocate or fan of JC’s must lack talent and ability, and be a slug: just like JC.
Good riddance to JC and his fans.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:15 am
Raiders putting pressure on wimbley letting some of the $$ get spent.. But he’s still gone.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:16 am
When you take a 1 yr contract as a backup without any chance of starting unless injury, you’re not wanting out. It’s called ZERO OPTION. This is coming off one of your supposedly best years per the national media.
Apparently, the folks that get paid to pick talent in the NFL didnt think JC was worth a lick. That’s why he took a 1 yr contract.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:18 am
JB,I have a feeling he will end up just like JC-being a back-up somewhere for the most he can get.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:19 am
The JC lovers JUST don’t get it: Campbell is NOT starting material; never has been, never will be.
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Clearly! The NFL has spoken and the consensus is that Campbell just doesn’t have what it takes. As expected, JC’s pom-poms and skirts bloggers in here have been exposed as frauds.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:20 am
Sullivan44, 436
AD operated in the grip of dementia for the past 10 yrs. The 19 seasons before that since Raiders won the Superbowl, AL was deteriorating mentally and found it easier to make money suing the NFL and city of Oakland than winning football games.
AD should have been kicked to the curb and expelled as having 100% managerial control years ago by his minority partners. However, I am sure he was wise enough to shower those partners with lawsuit proceeds to keep them quiet.
I said this again and again and the abuse I suffered for that was substantial.
Now the chickens come home to roost.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Try Some Reality Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Reality:
Yes!
March 14th, 2012 at 12:21 am
I hold no ill feelings toward JC.While he was here he gave his all and did his best.He just isn’t that good,IMO.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:24 am
lefty12 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 12:18 am
JB,I have a feeling he will end up just like JC-being a back-up somewhere for the most he can get.
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Yep. That’s one running game we can stop.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Now was I dreaming or did someone post in here the other day that JC was going to the Jets and posed the question “What does this mean for Sanchez?”. LOL at the notion that JC would be hired to replace Sanchez. What a joke. Some of you bloggers crack me up.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:25 am
JC never took responsibility for his bad games. He used to just say it’s one of those games rather than say it was my fault we lost. I remember he said that after the Niners game. Hated that mofo ever since. Good riddance. Where’s Misty at?
March 14th, 2012 at 12:29 am
TSR,they had him going to half the teams in the league and starting.Its weird how so many on here hate some of our decent/good players yet will throw so much support behind a mediocre player like JC.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:30 am
It’s a very big world: there are always many above you, and many below you. We all fit in somewhere. What I stated some time ago was that JC should accept his place, and milk it for as much as he can get. He is a young man, hard worker, good teammate, and perfect backup QB. He should be able to milk that for another $10M throughout his career.
If I am not mistaken he made $10M with the Skins, $8M with the Raiders, and could make another $10M as a sought after backup.
Nothing wrong with $28M. It’s way more money than I’ll ever make in my lifetime.
Kudos to JC – just glad you are gone from Oakland.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:33 am
All of the jc lovers must be asleep
March 14th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Good riddance to JC and his fans.
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JC may be gone, but I guarantee you that the first time Palmer throws a pick or makes a mistake of any kind JC’s fans will be in here yammering about him again.
Take it to the bank.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:35 am
What is really, really strange about this latest situation about JC, which I consider a personal redemption on my part, is the abuse I suffered for my stance: that included allegations of being a hater, a troll, a race-baiter, and a racist spewing evil across the the net. Most of the racial accusation derived from my comment that I couldn’t get past JC’s bottom lip that always hung low. It made him look…..stupid;
and for the most part JC isn’t the brightest bulb in the pack.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:35 am
I agree. These are folks with agendas, Lefty. They must be to have been so blind to the glaring truth. Root for and against players, posting all kinds of slander, just to advance an agenda. Sad.
I earnestly wanted JC to do well, but was very happy to have an upgrade in Palmer. JC is a game manager – great backup material. He knows it, his agent knows it, the NFL knows it.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:36 am
ET-guaranteed.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Edward Teach, #455
“JC may be gone, but I guarantee you that the first time Palmer throws a pick or makes a mistake of any kind JC’s fans will be in here yammering about him again.
Take it to the bank.”
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Teach,
You are correct, at least in my case. I have always though CP is past his prime and will never be substantially better than he was last season.
I just don’t like Palmer and thought Hue’s trade for him sucked.
With that being said, CP is much better than JC; he just has more ability and god-given talent.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:41 am
JC may be gone, but I guarantee you that the first time Palmer throws a pick or makes a mistake of any kind JC’s fans will be in here yammering about him again.
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Oh, absolutely.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Palmer is 32 and many say he is past his prime,yet half the league is doing their damnedest to sign someone who is 36 and just had 4 neck operations.Gannon was older than Palmer when he became a Raider.How old was S.Young when he finally took over for Montana?32 is a prime age for a QB,he is far from over the hill.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:44 am
I’d take Palmer over a lot of Qbs in this league right now, and I think he’ll be better next year, but that’s just one man’s opinion.
Imagine if you were a Jets fan and you just learned that your team extended Sanchez and gave him 40 million. At least Palmer gives us a shot.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:47 am
TSR,what guys like Mystic will do is come in blabbing about how terrible Palmer is,someone will say it could be worse,we could still have JC and it will start all over.Naturally M will take the high road and say he never mentioned JC but everyone will know exactly what he is talking about.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:49 am
To paraphrase George Carlin, watching Campbell’s throwing release was like watching snails f#@k.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:49 am
I am only saying that I neither favored JC or CP. It seems the blog was divided into separate camps regarding the two, as the old saying goes: “if you are not with me, you are again me.”
It is obvious that CP is more talented than JC; it’s a natural fact, is all.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:52 am
I stand by my theory on Campbell. I think he’s too smart to be a football player. He’s got a life after football. What I take from him is that he’s incapable of compromising his IQ to a point to where he could take a game like this seriously. While you look for smarts in an NFL quarterback, they also have to be a fiery competitor, and that takes a little bit of stupidity. Competition is primitive. Then again, so is throwing dung. It doesn’t mean it’s intelligent.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:54 am
I favor the more talented player as long as he isn’t a trouble maker,or a thug.Palmer was by far the better QB.If it were reversed,I’d have supported JC.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:54 am
We’re drafting a franchise QB either this year or next year. CP is a stop gap.
March 14th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Ahhh……I revise my estimate of JC’s potential salary. He signed with the Bears for $3.5, not including incentives.
Therefore as a backup, JC could make at least $20M to $25M for the duration of his career, and come out of it his head screwed on straight.
Not bad JC, not bad at all!
March 14th, 2012 at 1:06 am
I doubt he can make that much for another 6-8 years(3.5 mil).At some point he will be down to minimum and I doubt he sticks around for that.
March 14th, 2012 at 1:08 am
lefty12 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Palmer is 32 and many say he is past his prime,yet half the league is doing their damnedest to sign someone who is 36 and just had 4 neck operations.Gannon was older than Palmer when he became a Raider.How old was S.Young when he finally took over for Montana?32 is a prime age for a QB,he is far from over the hill.
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Montana had his best year at 33. Elway too. Manning won a MVP at 33. Gannon won his at 37.
Manning isn’t raising too many worries about anything besides his neck because he has such a quick fluid arm motion, that he could prolly throw forever.
CP might not be quite as compact, but its a thing of beauty… he could prolly be still throwing effectively for another 3-4 years. Easy.
March 14th, 2012 at 1:13 am
Sullivan44 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 12:54 am
We’re drafting a franchise QB either this year or next year. CP is a stop gap.
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2014 the earliest… barring injury to CP. Most teams post salary-cap with a franchise QB ride that horse until it is sunsetted… and successfully too. Its a gamble, but a calculated one.
Look at Indy… one bad year and they have another franchise QB in place for the next ten years.
The NFL is a copy-cat league.
March 14th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Bryant gets 2nd-round tender from Raiders The Raiders placed a second-round tender on restricted free agent Desmond Bryant. That means that the Raiders are entitled to a second-round draft pick as compensation if Bryant is offered a contract by another team and the Raiders refuse to match th… [...]
March 14th, 2012 at 3:17 am
If Jason Campbell is willing to back up Jay Cutler in Chicago why isn’t he willing to back up Carson Palmer in Oakland?
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Why would he want to play behind the guy that replaced him?
So long Jason. You’re a good man but no starting quarterback.
March 14th, 2012 at 5:05 am
Good Morning A.M. Crew!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 5:24 am
I guess everyone is still sleeping….
Where are the East Coast Cats???
March 14th, 2012 at 5:30 am
Brandon Marshall in trouble again. LOL at Bears.
March 14th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Good morning ray! Big day for WR’s yesterday…
The New York Post reports Bears WR Brandon Marshall “slugged” a woman at a Chelsea nightclub early last Sunday morning.
March 14th, 2012 at 5:34 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 5:24 am
I guess everyone is still sleeping….
Where are the East Coast Cats???
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Florida checking in here.
March 14th, 2012 at 5:35 am
Woke up to hear the news of Meachem signing with the Chargers. That’s a huge dropoff from VJAX. They will see he’s nothing better than Malcom Floyd.
March 14th, 2012 at 5:38 am
Good Morning Carl and Guest!
Looks like Eric Wright (CB) is off our radar…
Low tier to mid..
Next man up!
March 14th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Some of you are up and about early…
March 14th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Hawaiian, GM brother!
Had to much on my mind, tossing and turning…smh!
I’m about to brew some coffee as we speak..
March 14th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Good morning NATION !!
—maryland — checking in !!!
March 14th, 2012 at 5:47 am
What’s up Ray…yeah, I’m about to do the same!!!
What’s up Mike?
March 14th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Adam Shefter tweeted something last night that makes a lot of sense. Something like the first few days of free agency is like shopping at Neimann Marcus, and after that it’s like shopping at Target.
Reggie Mac is getting his red t-shirt and khakis ready. It’s time to wait for Target to open up like on Black Friday. This is the new reality for Raider fans.
March 14th, 2012 at 5:50 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.SO,IS GOING TO BE MORE ABOUT OBTAINING MORE DRAFT PICKS THAN SIGHNING FREE AGENTS?
March 14th, 2012 at 5:53 am
I can’t believe Buffalo is going to get Super Mario…
March 14th, 2012 at 5:54 am
whats happin Hwnrdr ? how the he11 are ya on this fine morning ?
March 14th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Michael Bush and wide receiver Chaz Schilens reportedly are meeting with the Arizona Cardinals
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LOL!
March 14th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Guest, more like Walmart after Black Friday’s leftovers/Salvation Army’s pick of the litter…I don’t see us making any noise today!
March 14th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Who is going to play Reggie in the Raider Money Ball movie?
March 14th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Woke up to hear the news of Meachem signing with the Chargers.
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who else got signed by the Denver, KC & Sandy Eggo?
I assume the Raiders haven’t scheduled visits, expressed interest or signed anybody yet.
March 14th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Wasn’t Bush talkin smack on Twitter…
I thought Chaz was signing with the 49ers?
March 14th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Forest Whitaker could play Reggie
http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/106/1064130/forest-whitaker-to-criminal-minds-spinoff-20100127115229809-000.jpg
March 14th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Michael Bush is in Arizona to train. Said as much on his Twitter account, calling people that think he would announce his business dealings on Twitter “knuckleheads”.
ESPN also retracted a report saying he was in Arizona meeting with the Cardinals.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Reggie should wait until next week.
we’ll sign a free agent or two between the 19th & 23rd
March 14th, 2012 at 6:01 am
I thought Chaz was signing with the 49ers?
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that would be awesome!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:01 am
488.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 5:54 am
whats happin Hwnrdr ? how the he11 are ya on this fine morning ?
Oh, you know…middle of the week…
Friday is payday, Saturday is green beer day…waiting to hear anything from the Raiders. But i believe its gonna be a quiet FA this year! At least in Alameda!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:02 am
R8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Guest, more like Walmart after Black Friday’s leftovers/Salvation Army’s pick of the litter…I don’t see us making any noise today!
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RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Reggie should wait until next week.
we’ll sign a free agent or two between the 19th & 23rd
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Okay…so more like hand-me-downs?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:03 am
497.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:01 am
I thought Chaz was signing with the 49ers?
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that would be awesome!
I know he’s talking with them today! Chaz better be careful going over that bridge today! Wet as he!!
His car axels may break…
March 14th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Reggie Wayne staying in Indy?
obviously it isn’t about winning …
March 14th, 2012 at 6:07 am
bcz24 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 5:53 am
I can’t believe Buffalo is going to get Super Mario…
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He left Buffalo last night without signing a contract, so he’s still on the market.
I couldn’t sleep last night for some reason, so stayed up and surfed the sites. Found the Mario thing and the Bush not in Arizona on business thing late last night.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Okay…so more like hand-me-downs?
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@ray
the Raiders only have $3 million in cap space according to Steve’s post yesterday – after the confirmed release of Boss
not sure if that amount gets lower since we tendered a few guys?
I’m baffled Reggie hasn’t cut John Henderson or made an attempt to restructure the contracts of Seabass, Shane & Tommy Kelly. We also need to get Branch signed to a long term deal
he’s moving at a steady pace, but it’s much slower than I anticipated
March 14th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Who is going to play Reggie in the Raider Money Ball movie?
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KoolKell
March 14th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Also saw a report that said that Danny Amendola wants RoMac to be godfather to his newborn son.
I may be imagining that one.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:12 am
505.edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Also saw a report that said that Danny Amendola wants RoMac to be godfather to his newborn son.
I may be imagining that one.
LOL
March 14th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Ok cap experts, if we had to be under the cap by the beginning of FA (the start of the league year), we had to of gone over some how before that mark. How does that happen?
Can we not sign players now and come next March do the necessary restructuring & cuts to get under the cap again?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Tonight’s Pool: Where does MBush end up?
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Bucs
March 14th, 2012 at 6:14 am
No doubt M. Bush will sign elsewhere as a backup mainly out of principle that he feels he should be paid starters money. But the market will say otherwise. He’s nothing more than a Tolbert, Choice, or Jacobs at this point in his career.
Bush is going to find out the hard way, getting paid small coin to be Beannie’s backup and compete with Ryan Williams for the GL carries.
He could have stayed and had a decent chance to be the starter backing up DMC with all his injuries. But his ego and pride are going to take him elsewhere.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Is there anything more annoying than a radio cutting in and out?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Nice to see Chaz get so much interest around the league. He’s a good guy, been a good soldier. Put in the hard work. Now it pays off for a 7th rounder. Always nice to hear about these type of stories. Good for him.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:15 am
He left Buffalo last night without signing a contract, so he’s still on the market.
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He is still on the market, but he IS still in Buffalo.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Is there anything more annoying than a radio cutting in and out?
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Debo and Mistic talking quarterbacks?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:16 am
RR, wouldn’t surprise me…the Bucs are on a roll!
1. V. Jackson
2. Eric Wright
3. M. Bush
March 14th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Tonight’s Pool: Where does MBush end up?
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Bucs
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Very similar skill set to Blount. I don’t see him in TB.
I think Cincy or Cleveland
March 14th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Surprised to see Glo take a flimsy one-year deal backing up Jay Cutler. So this is what his career comes to. This is the best he could do on day one of free agency? Sad, sad end of a promising career. He’s now joined the scuttlebutt clipboard crew, cashing the final paychecks. Poor soup.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:17 am
@G123
can you imagine Chaz Schilens without the injuries or JaMarcus Russell at QB?
combination of the two stunted his growth & development imo
I’m sure he’d rather catch passes from Carson Palmer than Alex Smith or Kevin Kolb next season …
March 14th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Bcz, crunch some numbers for us…make it happen, I’ll get Reg on the phone!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Haven’t seen Mistic come to eat his crow after GUARANTEEING the JC would get numerous starting gig offers.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:18 am
If it’s a guess where Bush ends up, I say Cleveland. it’s where all good RB’s go to die.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Debo and Mistic talking quarterbacks?
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LOL, Teach made a funny!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
bcz24 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Haven’t seen Mistic come to eat his crow after GUARANTEEING the JC would get numerous starting gig offers.
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I’m still waiting for the news that Jamarcus Russell has several interviews lined up. Debo told us he would, so I’m sure we’ll hear something any day now.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
@RRS,
I was kind of hoping we could still hang on to Schilens, but it’s best for him to go and make some money. Lotta interest, AZ, SF and Jets all looking at him.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Debo and Mistic talking quarterbacks?
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Yes, but after you see the first couple posts you know to scroll past the rest!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Very similar skill set to Blount. I don’t see him in TB.
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@bcz
Blount = Exclusive Rights FA
did he get tendered or re-signed?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Bush to Bengals.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I could see the patsies signing Bush. They like to recycle what we no longer want.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Debo and Mistic talking quarterbacks?
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Yes, but after you see the first couple posts you know to scroll past the rest!
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Kinda like the car crash on the side of the road. You don’t WANT to slow down and gawk, but you just can’t help yourself.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:24 am
If it’s a guess where Bush ends up, I say Cleveland. it’s where all good RB’s go to die.
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Montario Hardesty
Brandon Jackson
Chris Ogbonnaya
Bush could go there. But they still need a QB, 2 WR’s and a TE. How much cap room do they have?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:24 am
A year ago, I had a high opinion of our head coach and quarterback. These two were going to show the rest of the NFL that they were underappreciated. Now Hue is toting water buckets for the Cincy CB’s to spit in. And Campbell is backing up Cutler, behind a horrible OL.
I think I overvalued both Hue and JC. Wow, what a fall from grace!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I could see the patsies signing Bush. They like to recycle what we no longer want.
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good point, CW
March 14th, 2012 at 6:25 am
518.r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Bcz, crunch some numbers for us…make it happen, I’ll get Reg on the phone!
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What do you want crunched?
It was reported yesterday we had $600k in cap space (before the Boss release).
Boss cut – +2.5mil
Wimbley cut – +4.5mil
Hendu cut – +4mil
Add in the remaining 3 million from last year that we can carry over and that puts us a $14.5 mill in available space.
I can get us Eric Winston on a 4 year $32 mill deal that looks like this:
2012: Salary $900k Signing Bonus $12 million = $3.9 cap hit
2013: Salary $6mil Cap hit = $9 mill
*2014: Salary $7mil Cap hit = $10 mill
*2015: Salary $8mil Cap hit = $11 mill
* indicates the years in which the cap is supposed to significantly increase
That will still leave us $10 mill in cap space AND a few contracts kicking around that can be restructured.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
If I was Bush..I wouldn’t want to go to Cleveland!
Reports are they will not go after (No RGIII) Matt Flynn or Peyton and will stick to Colt McCoy???
Lol…
March 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Blount can’t and wont block and is horrible on the GL. He’s another big body that shies away from contact and likes to dance entering the hole. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bucs straight cut him.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Tonight’s Pool: Where does MBush end up?
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Denver.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I think I overvalued both Hue and JC.
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@G123
Reggie heard that Beyonce song “lemme upgrade ya”
I’ll take Allen & Palmer all day over the previous two clowns that Al Davis hired to resurrect the franchise
March 14th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I can get us Eric Winston on a 4 year $32 mill deal that looks like this:
2012: Salary $900k Signing Bonus $12 million = $3.9 cap hit
2013: Salary $6mil Cap hit = $9 mill
*2014: Salary $7mil Cap hit = $10 mill
*2015: Salary $8mil Cap hit = $11 mill
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If we want him, we need to speak up soon. He’s got 3 visits lined up with other teams. He’ll be signed soon.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Blount was tendered as an exclusive right free agent this AM
March 14th, 2012 at 6:30 am
534.guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Blount can’t and wont block and is horrible on the GL. He’s another big body that shies away from contact and likes to dance entering the hole. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bucs straight cut him.
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Huh? He runs all over people. Shys from contact? Because he jumped over a guy?
He was tendered… definitely not getting cut.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:31 am
536. lol, hadn’t heard that song. But it sounds appropriate enough. I don’t know enough to vouch for Allen yet, but Palmer is a huge upgrade. So yeah, my loyalty to Huebert and Glo ends here.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Add in the remaining 3 million from last year that we can carry over
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@bcz
when does that get applied?
I was assuming it already was factored in
March 14th, 2012 at 6:32 am
534.guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Blount can’t and wont block and is horrible on the GL. He’s another big body that shies away from contact and likes to dance entering the hole. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bucs straight cut him.
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Sounds like Bush.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:32 am
^^ The blocking and goaline, not the rest.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:33 am
508.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Tonight’s Pool: Where does MBush end up?
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Bucs
I heard something that he’s scheduled to visit Cinci? We all know who is there trying to get our guys…
March 14th, 2012 at 6:33 am
POST-535,THAT WAS MY THOUGHT,DENVER OR KC..
March 14th, 2012 at 6:33 am
@bcz
when does that get applied?
I was assuming it already was factored in
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I haven’t heard of us asking for it yet. Until I read otherwise I am going to assume it is still available.
It doesn’t carry over automatically. You have to write a letter to the league requesting it.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Tonight’s Pool: Where does MBush end up?
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Denver.
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Bengals
March 14th, 2012 at 6:35 am
So Washington just falt out bought what they think will be a Championship team…
Garcon, Morgan, Royal (?)…and traded everything for RGIII…they had a decent defense last year! What do you guys think?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:37 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:35 am
So Washington just falt out bought what they think will be a Championship team…
Garcon, Morgan, Royal (?)…and traded everything for RGIII…they had a decent defense last year! What do you guys think?
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The NFC East is going to be very competetive next year. Jerrah might miss the playoffs again, and Jason Garrett will lose his job if they do.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
THEY STILL GOT TO MAKE IT WORK HWNRDR.WILL SEE IF RAT-FACE CAN MAKE A TEAM OUT OF THOSE GUYS.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Redskins will be last place next year.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:43 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:35 am
So Washington just falt out bought what they think will be a Championship team…
Garcon, Morgan, Royal (?)…and traded everything for RGIII…they had a decent defense last year! What do you guys think?
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They need a new coach. Seriously, what has the rat done without Elway, Terrell Davis, Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey & Sharpe?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:43 am
It doesn’t carry over automatically. You have to write a letter to the league requesting it.
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:45 am
WOW!
Let’s start, as we do with all NBA trades, with the money. The Milwaukee Bucks traded Bogut and Stephen Jackson to the Warriors for Monta Ellis, Kwame Brown and Ekpe Udoh. It’s money neutral this season, but in the two following seasons the advantage goes to Milwaukee in a big way. Bogut is owed $27 million over the next two seasons, and Jackson is owed $10 million next season. Milwaukee replaces that with one year and $11 million for Ellis (or two and $22 million if he chooses not to opt out), and two at a total of $8 million for Udoh.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:46 am
That is true, Carl? BTW: Who is his running back in DC?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:46 am
So Washington just falt out bought what they think will be a Championship team…
Garcon, Morgan, Royal (?)…and traded everything for RGIII…they had a decent defense last year! What do you guys think?
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@Hwnrdr
don’t forget they already have Santana Moss, Jabar Gaffney, Anthony Armstrong, Fred Davis & Chris Cooley
not bad!
I think they need a RB though
38 Tristan Davis
29 Roy Helu
35 Evan Royster
Mike Bush to the Skins?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:46 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:35 am
So Washington just falt out bought what they think will be a Championship team…
Garcon, Morgan, Royal (?)…and traded everything for RGIII…they had a decent defense last year! What do you guys think
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Dan Snyder tries to pull this trick every few years and it never works.
I think RG3 will be a good QB, but he’s not John Elway and that’s the only guy the Orange Gremlin has ever had success with.
They’ll probably make the playoffs, but that’s about all.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I think they need a RB though
38 Tristan Davis
29 Roy Helu
35 Evan Royster
Mike Bush to the Skins?
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Except Terrell Davis, Shanahan has always had plug ‘n play RBs, so they can probably get by with that crew.
That said, Bush would be a good addition for them. Still think he ends up in Cincy.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:48 am
The Milwaukee Bucks traded Bogut and Stephen Jackson to the Warriors for Monta Ellis, Kwame Brown and Ekpe Udoh
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seriously, Hwnrdr?
LOL!
poor W’s
March 14th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Further more on the rat, he thought jake Plummer, Donovan Mcnabb, John Beck & Rex Grossman could lead his teams!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:48 am
The Milwaukee Bucks traded Bogut and Stephen Jackson to the Warriors for Monta Ellis, Kwame Brown and Ekpe Udoh
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seriously, Hwnrdr?
LOL!
poor W’s
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I barely follow the NBA & even I know that’s a sh!tty trade.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
RR, you keeping track of the Bush pool?
Put me down for the patsies.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:52 am
You didn’t see that last night Rockstar? There were a few on here that was VERY upset! And I would be too if I was a Warriors fan…someone once asked me why I’m not a Warriors fan…that trade last night, amongst the one’s in the past…that right there is the reason I could never be a fan! I still root for them and hope for the best, but…
March 14th, 2012 at 6:52 am
560.Carl Weathers Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Further more on the rat, he thought jake Plummer, Donovan Mcnabb, John Beck & Rex Grossman could lead his teams!
That is true!
March 14th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Tonight’s Pool: Where does MBush end up?
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Denver.
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Bengals
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San Diego
March 14th, 2012 at 6:54 am
An unnamed Warriors player was quoted yesterday as saying “If we are giving up on the season, I feel a hip injury coming on”
March 14th, 2012 at 6:54 am
I haven’t followed basketball since I lived in toronto years back but I loved watching Jason Richardson play, how the W’s couldn’t build a team around that guy is pretty sad.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:55 am
I’ll chime in for you Warrior fans that are worried about Andrew Bogut.
Bogut is a STUD…Period.
The Bucks were above .500 when he went down and have dropped significantly since then.
Folks in Wisconsin (who are NBA fans and there aren’t that many, but still) are NOT happy about losing Bogut. They’ve all been waiting for him to come back so they can start winning again.
You’ll see.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:56 am
IS AL ATTLES STILL ALIVE?MET THAT GUY WEN I WAS YOUNG.DEEPEST VOICE AND LARGEST HANDS EVER..
March 14th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Realistically, here are the 4 guys I’d like to see donning the silver and black next season:
Tracy Porter
Richard Marshall
Mike Tolbert
Brodrick Bunkley
Sadly, we just don’t have the cap space to go after Williams, Nicks or Carr.
Thoughts?
March 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
With all the offensive guard attention focused on Nicks, I wonder if Reggie could quietly snag Ben Grubbs for a reasonable price and move Wiz to center.
March 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
The Bucs are on a roll….just signed Carl Nicks too!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tampa Bay reached agreement with former Saints guard Carl Nicks on a five-year, $47.5 million deal including $31 million guaranteed.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:01 am
572.r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
The Bucs are on a roll….just signed Carl Nicks too!
Beat me to the punch!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Welp, so much for that idea; Grubbs is gonna be a hot commodity. Schefter just now:
“Tampa Bay reached agreement with former Saints guard Carl Nicks on a five-year, $47.5 million deal including $31 million guaranteed”
March 14th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Nicks actually got more money guaranteed than VJax. Bucs have committed $57MM guaranteed to 2 players. Wow.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:02 am
568.DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 6:55 am
I’ll chime in for you Warrior fans that are worried about Andrew Bogut.
Bogut is a STUD…Period.
The Bucks were above .500 when he went down and have dropped significantly since then.
Folks in Wisconsin (who are NBA fans and there aren’t that many, but still) are NOT happy about losing Bogut. They’ve all been waiting for him to come back so they can start winning again.
You’ll see.
True, but he is out for the year, right? So I guess the fans were upset because it looks like they tanked the season. And they sent Udoh also. I don’t know…The W’s are still only 3 places out of 8th and on a 3 game win streak, anything can happen!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Bucs are making a lot of noise. VJAX and Carl Nicks. The defense still sucks, but the offense is going to be much improved.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:06 am
RR, you keeping track of the Bush pool?
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@CW
not me, bro
I’ll be keeping track of the “WHO SHOULD WE TAKE AT THE END OF ROUND 3 WITH OUR COMP PICK (THANKS NNAMDI)” starting Monday, April 3rd – April 25th
March 14th, 2012 at 7:08 am
guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Bucs are making a lot of noise. VJAX and Carl Nicks. The defense still sucks, but the offense is going to be much improved.
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Carl Nicks opening up holes for Trent Richardson (who I think the Bucs are drafting; he seems like a Schiano type of player) will look mighty good to Bucs fans I suspect.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tampa Bay reached agreement with former Saints guard Carl Nicks on a five-year, $47.5 million deal including $31 million guaranteed.
Bucs are making a lot of noise. VJAX and Carl Nicks. The defense still sucks, but the offense is going to be much improved.
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Freeman, Winslow & Blount should be pleased
WR’s Williams, Stroughter, Benn & Parker have also had their moments the past 2 years. just not consistant
Bucs have the 5th overall pick in the draft as well
March 14th, 2012 at 7:11 am
guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Bucs are making a lot of noise. VJAX and Carl Nicks. The defense still sucks, but the offense is going to be much improved.
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Carl Nicks opening up holes for Trent Richardson (who I think the Bucs are drafting; he seems like a Schiano type of player) will look mighty good to Bucs fans I suspect.
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It’s hard for me, b/c I live in Bucs country. All the noise on the talk radio is about the excitement of these two and drafting Richardson. Sucks to be a Raider fan with nothing to talk about. Like pressing your cupped hands against the storefront window with rabbit earred pockets hanging out.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Mario Williams spotted leaving Buffalo Medical Group office this morning. That would seem to be a physical, folks.
Next man up!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Freeman, Winslow & Blount should be pleased
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Winslow is pissed if anything. He’s a me first, target hog, who is always patting the top of his helmet after every catch. He is going to pout about being the 3rd option behind Williams and Jackson. And he is another that can’t and wont block for anyone.
Blount is on his way outta town if they draft Richardson. He’s a terrible blocker, and cant catch a cold. Easily forgotten.
So Winslow and Blount are to the contrary, pretty pissed off about now.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:14 am
who the hell is coaching the Bucs now?
March 14th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Blount is on his way outta town if they draft Richardson. He’s a terrible blocker, and cant catch a cold. Easily forgotten.
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You keep saying this and ignoring the fact that they just tendered him an offer this morning to lock him up for the year. Why would they do that if they were just going to let him go.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Mario Williams spotted leaving Buffalo Medical Group office this morning. That would seem to be a physical, folks.
Next man up!!!
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that would be Kam Wimbley, who will be released in 2 days
March 14th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:14 am
who the hell is coaching the Bucs now?
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Rutgers coach Greg Schiano.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Matt Flynn visiting Seattle? Really?
March 14th, 2012 at 7:21 am
…and Chad Henne?
March 14th, 2012 at 7:24 am
You keep saying this and ignoring the fact that they just tendered him an offer this morning to lock him up for the year. Why would they do that if they were just going to let him go.
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That tender was extended about a week ago. But a lot has changed with the signing of Nicks. Richardson would change everything, if they decide against drafting Mo Claiborne.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:24 am
It looks like it’s gonna be another busy day around the league…SMH!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:32 am
@Hwnrdr
Matt Flynn and/or Chad Henne to Seattle wouldn’t surprise me.
if TJax is making peanuts might as well keep him and let him compete for the QB job with these other two
March 14th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Packers C Scott Wells “seems determined” to leave the Packers, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
Wells has talked with Tennessee, although Houston’s Chris Myers may be the Titans’ first choice. Wells could also replace Myers in Houston. It wouldn’t shock us if Wells winds up returning to Green Bay if he doesn’t get a big contract elsewhere, but the local scribes think Wells is all but gone.
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
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I wouldn’t count out the Raiders, either!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:34 am
who is gonna compete with Matt Moore in Miami if they get spurned by Peyton Manning?
Kyle Orton?
March 14th, 2012 at 7:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:34 am
who is gonna compete with Matt Moore in Miami if they get spurned by Peyton Manning?
Kyle Orton?
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Matt Flynn (coached by their HC since he came into the league) or Ryan Tannehill via the draft (coached by their new OC)
March 14th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Sounds like mario is taking his physical with buffalo.. Call soliai reg!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Packers C Scott Wells “seems determined” to leave the Packers, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
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Bad news, ray
I hope Wells re-signs with the Packers and Jason Brown (cut by Rams yesterday) goes to the Titans.
Chargers inked Hardwick already.
Matt Birk isn’t ready to call it quits
Raiders need Chris Myers and the Texans can’t afford him!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
596. K.kolb will be an option too.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I realize it 7:35AM in Cali, but DAMN!!! Cant we even get some news of a free agent visit??
Here’s what I would like to see:
Eric Winston
Tracy Porter
John Abraham
Dan Connor
Come on Reggie, get the he!! out of bed and spend some loot, bro!!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Oh, almost forgot, Mike Tolbert is to visit the Chiefs..
dont let him get away Reggie… C’mon man!!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Maybe we will sign Kyle Orton as a back up. He likes to throw those west coast dink and dank and dunk passes.
I still think once JC realizes there are only back up QB positions out there he stays in Oakland as Palmers back up. Or maybe he thinks the west coast offense is not a good match for him.
Not sold on Lienart at all even as back up. USC connection or not he will come out here partying and produce like he did for Arizona back in the day.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:39 am
I would find it very telling if Flynn’s former QB coach who is now coaching the Fins, does not make an aggressive move towards landing him.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Matt flynn is heading to seattle for an interview.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Sounds like mario is taking his physical with buffalo.. Call soliai reg!
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Would love Soliai, but he will command way too much $$$ for the Raiders to compete
March 14th, 2012 at 7:40 am
CJ,
Soup is gone. In Chicago on a one year deal, as being reported.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Raiders need Chris Myers and the Texans can’t afford him!
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I doubt the Raiders can too, didn’t Cork say something about him wanting to be one of the highest paid centers in the league?
I’m hoping for Ben Grubbs at guard and Wiz to center. Although honestly, I don’t think we can afford Grubbs either.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:41 am
602. Jc signed a 1 yr deal with chicago
March 14th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:39 am
I would find it very telling if Flynn’s former QB coach who is now coaching the Fins, does not make an aggressive move towards landing him.
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A good point. Will be very interested to watch that situation develop.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Packers C Scott Wells “seems determined” to leave the Packers, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
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Bad news, ray
I hope Wells re-signs with the Packers and Jason Brown (cut by Rams yesterday) goes to the Titans.
Chargers inked Hardwick already.
Matt Birk isn’t ready to call it quits
Raiders need Chris Myers and the Texans can’t afford him!
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Okay…I got it, send on over the hand-me-downs!
SMH…at least old man (Al) kept it interesting during free agency!
Man, do I miss the old guy!!
Next Benchwarmer up!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Yeah, that would be sweet! But the odds are very slim. I am not even sure we have the money to sign those cats!
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600.Raider-in-PA Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I realize it 7:35AM in Cali, but DAMN!!! Cant we even get some news of a free agent visit??
Here’s what I would like to see:
Eric Winston
Tracy Porter
John Abraham
Dan Connor
Come on Reggie, get the he!! out of bed and spend some loot, bro!!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/the-free-agent-hot-100/
Keep Paul Soliai & Aubrayo Franklin out of the AFC West !!
Raiders can’t afford either player and they are the best run stuffing DT’s on the market
March 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
SMH…at least old man (Al) kept it interesting during free agency!
Man, do I miss the old guy!!
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A main reason Reggie’s hands are tied right now is because of those contracts handed out, don’t forget.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
We have a center.. 2 really lets fix the d first.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:43 am
PFT says Soliai visiting the Broncos, dammit.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:43 am
606.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:40 am
CJ,
Soup is gone. In Chicago on a one year deal, as being reported.
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Thanks! Oh well easy come easy go!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Myers would be nice, but he’s 31 yo, and will be overpaid and a liability at some point. Better let someone else reach for him and his bloated salary.
Winston would be worth the paying for. He’s only 28 yo and plenty of good years ahead of us at a position of greater need.
Highly doubt we sign either.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I dont like hearing we dont have enough $$ to compete for players. Thats bs.. If AL was alive we would find the $$.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Soliai also reported to visit KC as well.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I dont like hearing we dont have enough $$ to compete for players. Thats bs.. If AL was alive we would find the $$.
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It’s called sacrificing future money and cap space for the present.
You can only kick the can down the road for so long.
We will have cap space, tons of it, in the next year or two and will be very active in FA.
This is the offseason to get things in order.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
SMH…at least old man (Al) kept it interesting during free agency!
Man, do I miss the old guy!!
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A main reason Reggie’s hands are tied right now is because of those contracts handed out, don’t forget.
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Thats NOT true.
Davis wrote these “Out of whack” contracts for 40+ years. Zero problems.
Reggie thinks they’re out of whack compared to the bargain basement scrub style Moneyball system HE is running.
We’re taking a page from Green Bay and the Pats and going after guys like Giordano rather than Finnegan.
Everyone wanted Davis gone.
Congratulations, hope it works…eventually.
Have a good morning Nation!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I dont like hearing we dont have enough $$ to compete for players. Thats bs.. If AL was alive we would find the $$.
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We have to wait for Black Friday, or maybe Black Saturday, the 1PM doorbusters. That’s all that will be left.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I dont like hearing we dont have enough $$ to compete for players. Thats bs.. If AL was alive we would find the $$.
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Javon Walker. Gibril Wilson. Larry Brown. Desmond Howard. Would you really want Al to find the money?
March 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I like Wiz at Guard more than Center..and Satele is a FA!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Chicago is having a good off season. They are in a strong division and they just got stronger. That Marshall trade was key for them. They have enough WRs around him to keep the defense honest (Sanzenbacher, Knox, Marshall, Hester, Forte out the backfield). Not bad!
I am still looking for Detroit to dominate that conference but not by much. And dare I forget about the Packs.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I dont like hearing we dont have enough $$ to compete for players. Thats bs.. If AL was alive we would find the $$.
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It’s called sacrificing future money and cap space for the present.
You can only kick the can down the road for so long.
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Exactly right.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
CJ Legend 34,
If I were a Vikings fan, I’d be extremely depressed. They look to be in the basement for a long time.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Okay…I got it, send on over the hand-me-downs!
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@ray
it’s not going to be a very exciting offseason for us Raider fans, but we’re going to have a VERY productive NFL season. chillax!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:51 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I like Wiz at Guard more than Center..and Satele is a FA!
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Satele is good as gone. Not wanted around these parts anymore.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:52 am
We only Have to go cheap because reg is not a millionare owner. Hes a gm with a yearly budget.. His hands are tied, but its by the new owners, not by the cap..
March 14th, 2012 at 7:52 am
A huge part of the Reason we can’t compete for FA’s right now is because of the past FA signings we’ve made..and huge overblown contracts .. Our only course ?… Patience …..it’s gonna be alright ..
March 14th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:52 am
We only Have to go cheap because reg is not a millionare owner. Hes a gm with a yearly budget.. His hands are tied, but its by the new owners, not by the cap..
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Uhhh…the new owner is Al’s son, who inherited all of Al’s millions.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:54 am
621.Raider Weapon X http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_nation_station Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
SMH…at least old man (Al) kept it interesting during free agency!
Man, do I miss the old guy!!
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A main reason Reggie’s hands are tied right now is because of those contracts handed out, don’t forget.
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Thats NOT true.
Davis wrote these “Out of whack” contracts for 40+ years. Zero problems.
Reggie thinks they’re out of whack compared to the bargain basement scrub style Moneyball system HE is running.
We’re taking a page from Green Bay and the Pats and going after guys like Giordano rather than Finnegan.
Everyone wanted Davis gone.
Congratulations, hope it works…eventually.
Have a good morning Nation!
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Good morning but the problem with what Al was doing in the last 5 years was paying way to much for average producing free agents and busts!!! Some he should have seen a mile away, others maybe not. But you have to be smart about the cap. We got better in the last three years in signing free agents, but it it time to get back in shape.
I would spend my money on the o-line, and defense period. W/O two veteran DBs we are hosed!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:54 am
We have to wait for Black Friday, or maybe Black Saturday, the 1PM doorbusters. That’s all that will be left.
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Monday 03/19
that will give Reggie time to get Wimbley & Henderson axed, Branch signed to a long term deal and a few more guys restructured.
our first “real” fa signing will be a CB, maybe Carr or Porter if they are still available at a reasonable rate
March 14th, 2012 at 7:55 am
So AD kicked the can down the rd with zero problems for 40 yrs but it caught up to him this yr? Funny timing.. Maybe he died on purpose?
March 14th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Carr is signed
March 14th, 2012 at 7:56 am
627.SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
CJ Legend 34,
If I were a Vikings fan, I’d be extremely depressed. They look to be in the basement for a long time.
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No doubt, the sad part is they don’t seem to have a plan and Petterson was injured and keep taking that punishment every game. We have been there as Raiders fans we know how bad those years can feel. At least I am optimistic we have a plan.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Okay, I got it….. Send over the Hand- me -downs…….
That’s right…. We’re At the dance , but we’re gonna be dancing with the ugly chicks for awhile …..it’ll change..
March 14th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Lions plan to announce Megatron mega-extension today!
Can’t we do that with some of our own players to give us some cap relief?
WAKE UP REG!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 7:58 am
634.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:54 am
We have to wait for Black Friday, or maybe Black Saturday, the 1PM doorbusters. That’s all that will be left.
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Monday 03/19
that will give Reggie time to get Wimbley & Henderson axed, Branch signed to a long term deal and a few more guys restructured.
our first “real” fa signing will be a CB, maybe Carr or Porter if they are still available at a reasonable rate
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What’s up RR?
I would love to sign Porter. We have to get a veteran CB.
March 14th, 2012 at 7:58 am
632. Mark is Not AL
March 14th, 2012 at 8:00 am
639.r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Lions plan to announce Megatron mega-extension today!
Can’t we do that with some of our own players to give us some cap relief?
WAKE UP REG!!!
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No crying in love and football.
But I still feel sick when I think that we could have taken Megatron over…dare I say his name….Nah, you know who I’m talking about….Barf!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Cut wimbly and henderson already
March 14th, 2012 at 8:01 am
635. Good post!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:03 am
our first “real” fa signing will be a CB, maybe Carr or Porter if they are still available at a reasonable rate
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Carr is “on the verge” of signing with Dallas.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:03 am
come on mckenzie sign someone already heck sign a cameraman i dont care for the love of god just give me some raider news.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Thae warriors are so lame.. At least the dont have to play small ball anymore I guess..
March 14th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Honestly,how all of you guys seem not to be bummed by this lack of action is beyond me….!
A lot of people acting as our team is ok the way it is…last time I checked we didn’t get to the superbowl last year,let ’s not be too biased:we all love our Raiders,but acting like our team hasn’t multiple holes to fill is beyond ridiculous!
On top of that,we all were expecting,at least this first year,to be quite players in free agency due to the lack of picks…..I’m sick and tired to see all other teams making deals and we are left here salivating,same as last year,while we just lose our players for other teams. And don’t come to me with the myth of “we’ve always made big splashes in free agency,the Walkers,the Moss,the Jordans,and it never pan out….” honestly,folks,that was happening several years ago,it doesn’t seem to me we’ve been that active in recent years.
We have no cap room? So shame on Reggie,he should have put us in condition to have more room by the start of free agency….! That is how you lower your standards and expectations? Where’s the committment to excellence…??
March 14th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Porter is a real possibility with his connection to allen.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:05 am
We may get one of the top FAs but I think Reg is gonna Moneyball most of this.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Skinny, the only news we’ll hear today is Wimbley’s departure!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Carr is “on the verge” of signing with Dallas
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Cool, thanks G123
looks like the 49ers locked up Rogers too
March 14th, 2012 at 8:07 am
So AD kicked the can down the rd with zero problems for 40 yrs but it caught up to him this yr?
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40 years???
Only the salary-cap era, which I think is around 15 years or so.
This doesn’t have anything to do with money, it is cap space. They have money, they just restructured Huff, Palmer and Seymour, and by transferring salary to bonus, they have to write the check for that guaranteed dough right up front. If they were cash-strapped, they couldn’t do so.
It’s about cap space, and having flexibility moving forward, and preventing from having to play this shell game every offseason.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:07 am
sup ray got the feeling your right
March 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
not really gonna miss him the guy flat out dissapeared in games
March 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
648. You say our splashes in free agency in the past is a myth.. Then you list a few splash moves.. They didnt work out, but we did make a splash.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Calvin Johnson signs for 7 years/$132M, and $60M guaranteed.
Wow!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:12 am
We’re gonna moneyball it… Sad sad day..
March 14th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Mark, we know you ‘moneyball’ your haircut, but please dont do this to our team too!!…lol
March 14th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Raiders may end up with Aaron Ross & Richard Marshall next week if Tracy Porter finds big money elsewhere
not impressed with William Gay or Cedric Griffin.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Tampa paid way too much for jackson..
March 14th, 2012 at 8:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Raiders may end up with Aaron Ross & Richard Marshall next week if Tracy Porter finds big money elsewhere
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You wouldn’t hear me complain about this.
Bunkley/Franklin to plug the middle & Tolbert/Hillis to backup DMac and let’s call it an off-season and work to find those mid-round gems.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Tampa paid way too much for jackson..
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Yep. Alvin Harper v2.0. Print that.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Yeah, if we cant get porter, marshal or moss id just pass on a fa corner..
March 14th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Ross not moss
March 14th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Tampa paid way too much for jackson..
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I disagree. 5 years / $55M, $26M guaranteed. He’s better than some of the comparable contracts that are out there. Waay better than Garcon or S. Johnson who got similar money.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:18 am
every player on the market is going to ask for a truck load of cash on the first or second day of free agency …
the Raiders are done overpaying for average players. Best bet is to sit on our hands until the frenzy dies down and we can collect system fits at a bargain rate
We have all the players we need to make the playoffs on the roster RIGHT NOW. Reggie isn’t interested in signing players just because other teams are or because Raider fans crave something to talk about
March 14th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Tolbert to kc
March 14th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Reggie isn’t interested in signing players just because other teams are or because Raider fans crave something to talk about
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And that’s why he’s the man.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:20 am
People FINALLY comin round to what Reggies cookin.
Bag on it all U want but RNS called it during Reggies press conference ON JANUARY 10TH!!!
“The Davis era is dead.”
I predict everyone will start spouting “Money ball” over the next few days like they’re the ones who figured it out.
No one likes the truth and the truth is we’re rebuilding and we’re trusting a rookie GM’s gut to do it. Hope hes a good one or we’re going to be on the scrap heap for another decade.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:20 am
666. Those guys got too much $$ too.. But what jacksons best yr? Like 70 catches?
March 14th, 2012 at 8:21 am
So the second coming of Jim Plunkett turns out to be little more than a back up to a slightly above average Jay Cutler? And even Campbell realizes he’s not starter material? McKenzie looks around, sees Al’s handiwork, and thinks “good God where did the genius lose his marbles?”
March 14th, 2012 at 8:22 am
The Bucs gave Wright 37.5 Mil over 5 years?! The bucs will be the next team to prove that blowing money will not equal wins.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:20 am
People FINALLY comin round to what Reggies cookin.
Bag on it all U want but RNS called it during Reggies press conference ON JANUARY 10TH!!!
“The Davis era is dead.”
I predict everyone will start spouting “Money ball” over the next few days like they’re the ones who figured it out.
No one likes the truth and the truth is we’re rebuilding and we’re trusting a rookie GM’s gut to do it. Hope hes a good one or we’re going to be on the scrap heap for another decade.
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As long as he don’t turn out like a Matt Millen…I think we’ll be OK!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:23 am
670. Thats a sad little dream..
March 14th, 2012 at 8:23 am
670. SHHHH! I’d say don’t tell everyone but thats what I’ve been doing! lol!
I just care about the Raiders and reality and no one serves it up like them.
Have a good morning Nation!~
March 14th, 2012 at 8:23 am
PA,
if the cap-strapped Raiders can manage to sign all 4 of these guys in free agency (Aubrayo Franklin, Manny Lawson, Aaron Ross & Richard Marshall) without breaking the bank or mortgaging the future … Reggie McKenzie should win GM of the Year honors!!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:25 am
673. Yup.. But buffalo will be another example of how to go get a guy who will change your team.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Reggie’s first visit? He played well for the dolts and could play FS if Huff is moved to CB.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
OOOOPs, forgot this:
Free agent SS Steve Gregory has reportedly received interest from three teams about a visit.The teams haven’t been disclosed, but Gregory is reportedly viewed as a starter. The Chargers seem likely to lose Gregory after failing to commit to him as more than a reserve.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:18 am
every player on the market is going to ask for a truck load of cash on the first or second day of free agency …
the Raiders are done overpaying for average players. Best bet is to sit on our hands until the frenzy dies down and we can collect system fits at a bargain rate
We have all the players we need to make the playoffs on the roster RIGHT NOW. Reggie isn’t interested in signing players just because other teams are or because Raider fans crave something to talk about
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Solid post.
I think we should add a piece or two though. Wouldn’t mind a stout NT or a decent CB.
Would love to add Wells or Myers at C and/or Winston at RT but there will be many suitors and those guys will demand some coin
March 14th, 2012 at 8:27 am
677. That would be helpful
March 14th, 2012 at 8:27 am
677. That would be a good haul for reggies strategy.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Calvin Johnson is ballin outta control.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I’d be happy with Stephen Tulloch, Brodrick Bunkley & Tracy Porter too
what do you guys think about David Hawthorne, Jarret Johnson or Erin Henderson being Wimbley’s replacement ??
March 14th, 2012 at 8:28 am
People s-l-o-w-l-y starting to catch on to Raider reality. Congrats.
“Welcome… the desert of the real.”
March 14th, 2012 at 8:30 am
685. Denver wants Bunkley to stay and hes really good but injury prone. If they sign Soliai our Knapp-kin run run run sytem is going to face trouble in big D.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Please go to the cards peyton!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Free agent SS Steve Gregory has reportedly received interest from three teams about a visit
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this guy sucks.
makes Jason Campbell look like a Hall of Fame QB
March 14th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Colts acquired OT Winston Justice from the Eagles for a sixth-round pick.
The Eagles are also sending the Colts a sixth-round pick, so it’s essentially a salary dump from Philadelphia’s perspective. Justice’s cap number for 2012 is over $4 million. Justice lost his starting right tackle job early in 2011, and ended up appearing in only six games. He’ll be in line for more playing time with the rebuilding Colts.
Related: Eagles
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More trades??
Reg = Zzzzz
March 14th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Wonder what JaMarcus Russell, drafted one spot ahead of Calvin Johnson, thinks of the richest deal in NFL history.
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Who cares what he thinks? Russell’s a chump.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:32 am
688. Agreed! lol!
No way do we want him in the divison!
Glad Wayne resigned with Colts. At least no Colt re-union of Wayne, Manning, Clarke in blue and orange.
Have a good morning!~
March 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am
689. How bout Landry? Gets dinged alot but good?
March 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Calvin Johnson’s deal is ridiculous.
Could you imagine what we would have had to pay a QB taken ahead of him had he actually panned out?
March 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Who are we “Moneyballing” it, when we have the least amount of cap space, and half our team is vastly overpaid?
That is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Moneyball.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:34 am
JB Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
So, who runs as WR out of the slot this upcoming year? Ford, D-Wow or DHB? Which WR poses the biggest threat from that position?
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Ford in the Slot. More as #1 soon, DHB until then.
Ya gotta think Reece is the best option at TE right now, he’d be better to stay in the backfield.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:35 am
We will win the division next year, no matter if Peyton is in Denver.
This isn’t rebuilding, it is simply building.
Not from scratch, but from an 8-8 team.
Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to find the closest mirror and slap themselves!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:35 am
695. Zero clue of how Money ball works. Red box the movie like Reggie did.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Well since we arent calling any of the 3 solid nose tackles on the market, I guess that means we’ll be playing a 4-3..
March 14th, 2012 at 8:36 am
697. My g-od man, wake up! Davis died, Mark and Reggie gutted the team!
Its a REBUILD!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
We will win the division next year, no matter if Peyton is in Denver.
This isn’t rebuilding, it is simply building.
Not from scratch, but from an 8-8 team.
Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to find the closest mirror and slap themselves!!!
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JFB = blog pimp
March 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
699. Thats a good observation…
March 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Gregory is the level of player rEggie will target. Just guessing within reality rather than joining the sign Mario Williams & Colstons of free agency!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Damb! Off to work. Peace owt Nation.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Reggie gutted the team!
Its a REBUILD!
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@N21
the players we pitched out the back door weren’t worth keeping. Especially with the outrageous contracts given to them by Al Davis
March 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am
And it could take YEARS.
New Owner, New GM, New HC, New OC, New DC, New system, new players.
Gannon and Gruden went 8-8 for 2 yrs.
Hope we explode on teams next year and make the play offs but looking at everything? Thats a tall order especially if Reggie sleeps thru FA.
Have a gr8 day Nation!~
March 14th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Zero clue of how Money ball works. Red box the movie like Reggie did.
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Read the book, twice, and have had dinner with Michael Lewis, who is good friends with my cousin.
Don’t be a dumbazz. Moneyball is about finding inexpensive, undervalued assets, because you can’t spend the same amount of money as everybody else.
The theory of Moneyball does not AND CAN NOT apply to a sport that has a salary cap and salary floor.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:42 am
We’d have cut cp3 and traded dmac if it was a rebuild.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Gregory is the level of player Reggie will target
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@CW
I hope you’re wrong. he sucks
I’d rather re-sign Giordano for nothing
March 14th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Go after the Chiefs CB Carr. That dude is physical! good CB, don’t he will ask for Routt money.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:44 am
705. Outrageous? WR Larry Fitz $120m million
WR Calvin Johnson $132 million.
Davis is not to blame.
They’re out of whack according to Reggie’s bargain basement system yeah but pretty much SOP everywhere else.
Did Davis “over pay”? No. How could he when we are CAPPED at $120 mill?
The majority of contracts never come to frution. Even the “guranteed” money doesnt get all paid.
Go Raiders!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
dont think he will ask for Routt Money.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
710. No way he leaves Dallas without a deal
March 14th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Wep X always says have a great day after a shtty prediction.. your fathers dead!-happy st. patricks day!:)
March 14th, 2012 at 8:47 am
707. Riiiiight…
Next time you have dinner with him ask him about the Patriots. They’ve been running a version for YEARS.
Peace owt Nation!~
March 14th, 2012 at 8:47 am
There are no Sabermetrics in football.
Moneyball theories don’t apply.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
carlos Rodgers. 4 years, max of 31M… now that sounds like a decent deal. no?
March 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
714. Reality dictates.
Peace!~
March 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Jason Campbell going to da beahs…starter? yeah, they brought in Marshall just for him!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:51 am
@CW
I hope you’re wrong. he sucks
I’d rather re-sign Giordano for nothing
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I wouldn’t sign either of them for more than “nothing”!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:51 am
716. Okay. Sure.
There is no mob, Kennedy was killed by a lone gun man, Water Gate never happened, Regan wasn’t involved in Iran Contra,Clinton never used a phat chick as a humidor and none of Sabremetrcis principals have ever been applied to football.
Peace out Nation!~
March 14th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I dont think the Pats have been running the Money Ball system thingy, I think they are on the Give Brady the Ball and try to Cheat system…
March 14th, 2012 at 8:52 am
We’d have cut cp3 and traded dmac if it was a rebuild
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@Mark
we wouldn’t have paid Seymour his $7.5 million roster bonus and then restructured him.
we wouldn’t have restructured Curry or Huff either.
wouldn’t have tagged Branch
March 14th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Maco Man, Carr is gonna get a big payday from the cowgirls. 4 years 40 Mil area..
March 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Great move by the Dubs. Only way monta ellis will make a team a winner if he’s paired with a big pg or there aren’t contending teams with a big shooting guard. If Brandon Jacobs guards Chalmers Ellis is guarding Wade? Whereas Klay has the size to contend with a Wade and Jackson can contend with Lebron with a Bogut as the last line of defense. Dubs should look for a scat pg off the bench ala Cj Watson/Dj Agustin type to get in the lane and kick out to Wrigh/Rush and your talking contender
March 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Brandon Jennings I meant
March 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
How about porter & dawkins? They know what Allen wants.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Good morning Nation.
My FA wish list:
FA
March 14th, 2012 at 8:54 am
in terms of defense?
I was hoping we would blow up the building and start over..
it appears McKenzie, Allen & Tarver have other plans.
some parts can be salvaged, so be it!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Next time you have dinner with him ask him about the Patriots. They’ve been running a version for YEARS.
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LMAO at thinking the richest team in the NFL is using a Moneyball theory.
So having the highest paid O-line in football, which they do, is part of Moneyball? Paying a QB one of the highest salaries in football?
Is that some new reverse osmosis type Sabermetrics??
March 14th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Meanwhile, McCown was re-signed by the Bears as well.
They’re just loading up on QBs who couldn’t cut in the AFC West.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
hey O,
have we outbid Buffalo for Mario Williams yet ??
March 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
725. The warriors will never contend this is Laker contry from mexico to alaska.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Meanwhile, McCown was re-signed by the Bears as well.
They’re just loading up on QBs who couldn’t cut in the AFC West.
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@Duck
still hope for Boller, Frye, Culpepper & Walter?
March 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
RR,
I miss Al.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Later raiders
March 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
725. The warriors will never contend this is Laker contry from mexico to alaska.
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Laker fan just giving the bay their props, great fans deserve a good team and now they got one
March 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Clippers > Fakers!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
730. They are in that position NOW after using the system for YEARS. lol!
Oh mercy…I have to go now.
Have a great day Nation!~ Go Raiders!
March 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Cut Henderson & Sign T Porter.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:00 am
none of Sabremetrcis principals have ever been applied to football.
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Well being that you can’t spell it I am sure you probably don’t know much about it.
Sabermetrics, is actually an acronym from SABR, which means Society for American Baseball Research. It’s all and only about baseball.
Are there different theories in football, that the Patriots may subscribe to, like trading down in the draft and such, sure. Are the Patriots spending less than other teams because they can’t afford to (they basic theory of Moneyball)? Absolutely not.
But to use terms like Moneyball and Sabermetrics does not apply. Those are BASEBALL only terms.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:00 am
648. You want us to be Hysterical?… Stomp our feet ? Hold our breath ?…..
Relax….. It’s gonna be ok….. It is what it is…
March 14th, 2012 at 9:00 am
So…. JC WANTs to be a backup?! I guess I was wrong about that dude. I’m glad he is gone.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Raider Weapon X Http://Www.Raidernationstation.Com/Raider_nation_station Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am
689. How bout Landry? Gets dinged alot but good?
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Really liked Landry coming out of LSU, and he’s definitely a hitter, but he has put on an ENORMOUS amount of upper body strength and his body is looking very under-proportioned right now. There was already a slight lack of fluidity in his hips, though he is fast, straightline, but Im really curious to see if all that extra upper body strength slows him down.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
still hope for Boller, Frye, Culpepper & Walter?
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Boller might hook on as a #3 someplace.
Frye will probably become a coach.
Culpepper is probably trying for a comeback somewhere. Good luck. He’s still got a better shot than JaMarcus, though.
Walter’s a real estate agent here in Phoenix.
http://www.andrewwalterholdings.com/Home_Page.html
March 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
To use the term Sabermetrics for football, would be like my mom calling a touchdown a “goal”.
Means you don’t have any clue what your talking about.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Sabermetrics, is actually an acronym from SABR, which means Society for American Baseball Research. It’s all and only about baseball.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I thought you made it up. I’m good at math and I don’t remember Sabermetrics. lol
March 14th, 2012 at 9:04 am
People who talk about “Moneyball” in football terms are OBVIOUSLY not referring to sabermetrics.
What they ARE referring to is finding undervalued system fits. Nothing wrong with that at all.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
657.guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Calvin Johnson signs for 7 years/$132M, and $60M guaranteed.
Wow!!!
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Wooooooweeeeee!!!!! I could only imagine, those are power ball #s.
The only problem is now you have matt stafford you have to do soemthing with soon. If CJ gets hurt that is a lot money locked up in one guy. But good for him!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Come on O, I don’t talk crap about your team, don’t call my team Fake
March 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Go be a backup JC. It’s good to know your place in life, and you are a backup
March 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Walter’s a real estate agent here in Phoenix
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LOL!
what is JaWalrus doing?
does he own a car dealership or a restaurant? anything?
is he making any money or still spending Al’s?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:06 am
And Sabermetrics, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYER ACQUISITIONS, it is all about analyzing in-game stats and the game.
Moneyball is about assembling a team.
To say that the Patriots have been using Sabermetrics to assemble their team, is about the most uneducated football comment this board has ever seen.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Great Morning Nation!!
We are frugal and waiting on value!!! Love it!
And Dwight Howard will no longer be on my team in 27 hours!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Walter’s a real estate agent here in Phoenix
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LOL!
what is JaWalrus doing?
does he own a car dealership or a restaurant? anything?
is he making any money or still spending Al’s?
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According to that SI article, JaPaycheck’s main concerns are gaining weight, holding court at the local barbershop, and sitting by the phone waiting for an NFL team to call. Gonna be in for a long-@ss wait on that last one.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:07 am
745.RaiderDuck Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
still hope for Boller, Frye, Culpepper & Walter?
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Boller might hook on as a #3 someplace.
Frye will probably become a coach.
Culpepper is probably trying for a comeback somewhere. Good luck. He’s still got a better shot than JaMarcus, though.
Walter’s a real estate agent here in Phoenix.
http://www.andrewwalterholdings.com/Home_Page.html
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I wonder if his clinets give him a hard time about the beating he took in Oakland. I could here them say, “Come on Andrew, you are hanging me out to dry like Art Shell did you all season long.” Woka woka!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Hwnrdr,
I didn’t know the Fakers had good descent fans like yourself. I thought they were all Fake Hollywood types. Btw, where is Dakota
March 14th, 2012 at 9:08 am
741. Okay. Semantics.
I did say Patriots running a VERSION of it.
Keep the terminology (sp?! Better watch out for the grammar Nazis!)
BTW, I’m not the one who brought up the term Sabremetrics you did and of course its not going to translate directly, it has to be adapted and it was.
Have a good morning and Go Raiders!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
What they ARE referring to is finding undervalued system fits. Nothing wrong with that at all.
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Absolutely, but that is not a Moneyball thing, every team in every sport does that for the last 100 years.
Moneyball is about finding undervalued fits, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS. The Patriots have options, that’s why Logan Mankins, Matt Light, Vince Wilfork, and Tom Brady are all some of the highest paid players at their positions.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Hwnrdr,
That was the last one. I promise.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
ESPN Dallas’ Calvin Watkins reports the Cowboys have “mild interest” in a few veteran receivers, including Early Doucet, Jerheme Urban and Devin Thomas.
Doucet is by far the biggest name on that list, but will also be the most expensive after posting a career-best line of 54/689/5 in 2011. He’d be a solid third receiver fallback for a team that already has Miles Austin and Dez Bryant if they fail to re-sign Laurent Robinson.
Related: Cowboys
Source: Calvin Watkins on Twitter
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How the ‘HELL’ does Dallas have all this money to spend?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
RaiderDuck Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
still hope for Boller, Frye, Culpepper & Walter?
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Boller might hook on as a #3 someplace.
Frye will probably become a coach.
Culpepper is probably trying for a comeback somewhere. Good luck. He’s still got a better shot than JaMarcus, though.
Walter’s a real estate agent here in Phoenix.
http://www.andrewwalterholdings.com/Home_Page.html
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Wow. All those Bed & Breakfast 7 step drops that Walter used to get punished on has relegated him to trying to start a pyramid scheme through his “financing company”.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Dwight Howard will no longer be on my team in 27 hours!!!
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@DAV
is that the trade deadline?
no trades after that point ???
March 14th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Cowboys have “mild interest” in a few veteran receivers, including Early Doucet, Jerheme Urban and Devin Thomas
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no love for TJ Housh?
hehe
March 14th, 2012 at 9:11 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I wonder if his clinets give him a hard time about the beating he took in Oakland. I could here them say, “Come on Andrew, you are hanging me out to dry like Art Shell did you all season long.” Woka woka!!!
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I do notice that he refers to himself as having played for “The Oakland Raiders and New England Patriots,” even though his entire Patriots tenure consisted of mop-up duty in a couple of preseason games.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Wow the other Pirate ship of the South is having one heck of a shopping day!
Tampa just signed Nicks. He would of made a great Raider. : (
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/03/buccaneers-continue-free-agent-spree-add-g-carl-nicks-cb-eric-wright/1
March 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
They got Vincent Jackson last night, they are ready to do something. Look for them to sign Mike Bush as well.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
760.Raider O Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Hwnrdr,
That was the last one. I promise.
LOL, it’s all good O! Been hearing all the Whiners here calling the Raiders traders, or faders…for years now…used to it!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Sorry for the rant, but people just throw out the term Moneyball anytime an undrafted FA is starting or some player is performing well while being underpaid.
“Moneyball” is strictly about finding creative ways to find undervalued assets, by using Sabermetrics and other off-the-beaten path statistical analysis, because you don’t have the money to compete with other teams.
In a salary-cap sport, where there really isn’t a huge discrepancy between the top and bottom of the leagues payroll, it simply doesn’t apply.
Do teams look for guys they think they can get cheap and get some good bang for their buck? Of course, but they were doing that stuff 30 years ago when Michael Lewis was in Kindergarden.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Wonder what JaMarcus Russell, drafted one spot ahead of Calvin Johnson, thinks of the richest deal in NFL history.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
JaBustus is too dumb to think about that. He is busy getting high and talking about the good ol days at the barber shop.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
764.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Cowboys have “mild interest” in a few veteran receivers, including Early Doucet, Jerheme Urban and Devin Thomas
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no love for TJ Housh?
hehe
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TJ is well done!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Dwight Howard will no longer be on my team in 27 hours!!!
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@DAV
is that the trade deadline?
no trades after that point ???
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Yes sir.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Dwight Howard will no longer be on my team in 27 hours!!!
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@DAV
is that the trade deadline?
no trades after that point ???
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I don’t follow basketball, but the local report here in Florida said that Howard now wants to stay in Whorrelando till the end of the season.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
I think Cincy is doing a good job of finding value in the draft and building piece by piece. You have to give it up to them.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
JFB,
You’re a little cranky today.
Still not over Udoh being traded, eh?
Your team got better yesterday. You may not see it until next year, but you actually got better!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Fingers – absolutely correct. Over the years the team has shelled out big money contracts for precious few big time players. Like the drunk guy that keeps ordering drinks to attract the ladies…and ends up going home alone (no playoffs for 10 years)…at some point you have to sober up and pay the bar tab. This is Reggie’s year to pay the bar tab. We will be back soon…but doin’ right this time.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:17 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Wow the other Pirate ship of the South is having one heck of a shopping day!
Tampa just signed Nicks. He would have made a great Raider. : (
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$9.5 million a year for a GUARD?!? No thanks.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:17 am
guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Dwight Howard will no longer be on my team in 27 hours!!!
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@DAV
is that the trade deadline?
no trades after that point ???
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I don’t follow basketball, but the local report here in Florida said that Howard now wants to stay in Whorrelando till the end of the season.
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And leave for free, so the team he wants to go to doesnt have to gut themselves to trade for him..
Coward.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:18 am
D Howard to the Cavs or Clippers!!!
Go Cavs!
Go Clippers!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Please enough with the Moneyball. Its not like the dude is Adam Smith, let it go, trying to find good values has been going on in every industry since we were monkeys, get over it, jeesh.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Dwight Howard is a pain in the you know what!!!
An immature giant with no creativity like Shaq had.
I am so tired about hearing about this guy.
What the NBA does not get is fans are geting real tired of these over paid premadonnas. That is why Linsanity was such a big deal. People are looking for humility in their players. After a while you don’t care who is geting 25 points and 24 boards. The new NBA is all about offense any way. It is almost expected.
I am sick of hearing about Howard every week. I would have let him go for nothing a long time ago. Orlando survived the loss of Shaq there will be another big man after Howard as well.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
History says %85-%90 of the contracts signed yesterday will go down as regrets.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Raider O Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:18 am
D Howard to the Cavs or Clippers!!!
Go Cavs!
Go Clippers!
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Crack pipe.
Down.
Put it.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:22 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Dwight Howard is a pain in the you know what!!!
An immature giant with no creativity like Shaq had.
I am so tired about hearing about this guy.
What the NBA does not get is fans are geting real tired of these over paid premadonnas. That is why Linsanity was such a big deal. People are looking for humility in their players. After a while you don’t care who is geting 25 points and 24 boards. The new NBA is all about offense any way. It is almost expected.
I am sick of hearing about Howard every week. I would have let him go for nothing a long time ago. Orlando survived the loss of Shaq there will be another big man after Howard as well.
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Umm no.
But thanks for the empathy.
Bigs like that come around once an era.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
I’m so glad you good people turned down Bynum for Howard straight up.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Morning peoples!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Chaz Schilens is on the Jets’ radar as a “viable” No. 2 receiver option.
Really? Schilens’ injury-prone background makes him worth a flier-type contract, not one for a possible starter. Schilens visited the Cardinals Tuesday, but multiple New York outlets say the Jets are interested in him. We suspect he won’t actually get much guaranteed money.
Related: Jets
Source: New York Daily News
LMFAO!!!!!
#2???
March 14th, 2012 at 9:24 am
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
I’m so glad you good people turned down Bynum for Howard straight up.
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Why is that?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:24 am
In other news, the Raiders declined to make a qualifying offer to safety Jerome Boyd. Therefore, Boyd is free to sign with any team
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Boyd is going to cash in big time elsewhere!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
History says %85-%90 of the contracts signed yesterday will go down as regrets.
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No kidding. Tampa Bay wants to spend $9.5 million year at one of the easiest positions to fill in the NFL (OG)? They’re idiots. Let them. We can get Heyer, who would do almost as good a job, back for 1/10 of that.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Who are we “Moneyballing” it, when we have the least amount of cap space, and half our team is vastly overpaid?
That is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Moneyball.
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We’re going to have to play Moneyball, given what Reggie inherited.
I’m not saying that’s what we did to get us here. Quite the opposite, yes.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:27 am
759. Okay, you’re an idiot. No two way s about it.
According to your dumb ass the only way a team can use “Sabremetric pricipals”
The central premise of Moneyball is that the collected wisdom of baseball insiders (including players, managers, coaches, scouts, and the front office) over the past century is subjective and often flawed. Statistics such as stolen bases, runs batted in, and batting average, typically used to gauge players, are relics of a 19th century view of the game and the statistics that were available at the time. The book argues that the Oakland A’s’ front office took advantage of more analytical gauges of player performance to field a team that could compete successfully against richer competitors in Major League Baseball.
Rigorous statistical analysis had demonstrated that on-base percentage and slugging percentage are better indicators of offensive success, and the A’s became convinced that these qualities were cheaper to obtain on the open market than more historically valued qualities such as speed and contact. These observations often flew in the face
of conventional baseball wisdom and the beliefs of many baseball scouts and executives.
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IF you can’t see how replacing terms like “stolen bases” and “batting average” with “opne field tackling percentage” “blocked kicks” and “turnover differntial” and how the system can be aplied to football thats on YOU.
calling other people stupid because you can’t figure it out is again, on YOU.
You’re wrong.
You can supply all the non-relevant semantics you want “The Pats never used “Sabremetric” pricipals because they’re rich now and it only applies to poor teams!
No team in the NFL uses Sabremetric principals because Sabremetrics is term that describes baseball!
Seriously?
Have a good day Nation!~
March 14th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Howard sounds like a cancer in the locker room!!
Wouldn’t want him…tired of hearing about him!
Tired of looking at him!!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Because we’d have to be dealing with the same drama you are now.
Not a fan of that guy.
We drafted our guy and he is finally healthy and developing. AND I want to keep our 2 #1 picks.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Why didn’t we cut Henderson. I can understand why we didn’t cut TK (he is a good player), but we need to cut Henderson now. We have $3 million in cap space, and we have a lot needs on defense.
We need a CB, NT/ DT, DE, and OLB.
Cut Henderson, and sign:
1- CB: T Porter
2- RT: E Winston
3- OLB: L Hill, Woodyard or McIntoch
4- DT/NT: Bunkley, Frankkin, or S Rogers
March 14th, 2012 at 9:29 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Howard sounds like a cancer in the locker room!!
Wouldn’t want him…tired of hearing about him!
Tired of looking at him!!
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Thats not really true, not a cancer.
Great teammate. Just is letting the people around him talk him into some bad decisions..
March 14th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Okay, Just fire baby?
I apologize for calling you an idiot. That was uncalled for.
BUT…
You’re dead wrong.
Have a good day Nation!~
March 14th, 2012 at 9:31 am
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Because we’d have to be dealing with the same drama you are now.
Not a fan of that guy.
We drafted our guy and he is finally healthy and developing. AND I want to keep our 2 #1 picks.
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Yea but for the future of the Lakers you’d have to take Dwight 10 times out of 10 over Bynum.
Dwight’s not a bad ‘person’, he’s just made some horrible PR and business moves.. Lebron-esque
March 14th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Another source for salary cap relief would be Tyvon. Currently, his Franchise tag is counting $6.2 million against our cap. But if Reggie can sign him to a long-term deal and get this year’s cap hit down to $3 million or so, that’d be another $3.2 we’d have.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Cut Henderson & Wimbley, and sign:
1- CB: T Porter
2- RT: E Winston
3- OLB: L Hill, Woodyard or McIntoch
4- DT/NT: Bunkley, Frankkin, or S Rogers
March 14th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Show Soali the $$$$$$$$. (instant upgrade)
Fix this fake ass, fugazi, overrated D-line!!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:35 am
I’ve no doubt Pollack, Classic Wiz and (to a lesser extent) Knapp have gone over every bit of tape they have on Barksdale. If we don’t go after Winston or another RT, it’ll be because they’re confident Barksdale can do the job for less money.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Chargers re-signed LT Jared Gaither to a four-year contract!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Cory Redding to Indy
March 14th, 2012 at 9:39 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Chargers re-signed LT Jared Gaither to a four-year contract!
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Wanted Gaither to be our RT last season.
Oh well.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:39 am
If we cut Henderson at 4 million, we’re probably going to have to sign someone for more than that.
Why not restructure him (add a year), and go after an UDFA NT?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:39 am
DE: Bryant, Houston
DT: Bunkley/ Houston
DT: Seymour/ TK
DE: Matt, Brodine
SLB: Curry
ILB: McClain, Goethel
WLB: Hill-Woodyard-McIntoch
CB: T Porter, McCann/ Underwood
CB: Chekwa/ DVD
FS: Huff
SS: Branch, Mitchell
March 14th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Kendall Langford has scheduled a meeting with the Bengals.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Wanted Gaither to be our RT last season.
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he failed his physical
March 14th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Ill take these guys :
ILB – Joe Mays
OLB – Manny Lawson
OLB – Wesley Woodyard
CB – Tracy Porter
CB – Richard Marshall
DT – Broderick Bunkley
RB – B. Green-Ellis
March 14th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Lots of undeserved money being thrown around. Really, Redskins? That much for Garcon?
Glad we’re not active, to be honest.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Chaz Schilens is on the Jets’ radar as a “viable” No. 2 receiver option.
Really? Schilens’ injury-prone background makes him worth a flier-type contract, not one for a possible starter. Schilens visited the Cardinals Tuesday, but multiple New York outlets say the Jets are interested in him. We suspect he won’t actually get much guaranteed money.
Related: Jets
Source: New York Daily News
LMFAO!!!!!
#2???
>>>>.
He could easily be a number two. Thats why you never ever give up on an injured player. Especially he is 6′ 4″ with great hands… and isn’t afraid to play slot.
Somebody should have had the foresight to lock Chaz in long ago. Now we can’t afford him.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Anyone sign Javon Walker yet???
March 14th, 2012 at 9:43 am
When healthy, Schilens is a great receiver.
It’s the “when healthy” part that’s always been his problem.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Manny Lawson is a 4-3 SLB. We have Curry, but I like the rest of your list. I’m also not a huge fan of Marshall. I know he had a good season last year, but he had a burn rate of over 70% a few years back.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Green-Ellis visiting Cincy..
March 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Redskins going way over their $84.6M cap number. Guess they are not worried about next years sanctions if they stand. How will the even field a team with so much guaranteed money next year if the cap penalties hold up?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Anyone sign Javon Walker yet???
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@CW
I think the Bucs gave him big money yesterday!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Lots of undeserved money being thrown around. Really, Redskins? That much for Garcon?
Glad we’re not active, to be honest.
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Schiiit, did you see what Morgan got?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Don’t blame Reggie and Allen for the lack of moves and improvements to the roster, their hands are tied due to the previous regime.
If the Prez can ride that line for rour years, so can Reggie and Allen.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Chaz didn’t get nicknamed Glass Schilens in here for nothing. The guy is injured much too often to worry about leaving. Besides, what did he do when healthy last year?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Marshall has had back to back good seasons for 2 different teams. Bring him in Reggie!
March 14th, 2012 at 9:46 am
When healthy, Schilens is a great receiver.
It’s the “when healthy” part that’s always been his problem.
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Chaz was healthy & active for 15 games last year.
Didn’t he finish the season like 10th in receptions?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
RaiderDuck Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:43 am
When healthy, Schilens is a great receiver.
It’s the “when healthy” part that’s always been his problem.
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He’s a good receiver, when healthy, but not great.
Heard the Whiners brought him in for a work out.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Marshall has had back to back good seasons for 2 different teams. Bring him in Reggie!
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Marshall is solid and we’ll probably won’t have to dish out a schit load of cash for him either.
Bring em’ on.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:50 am
No, I didn’t catch that. Wow, that’s a lot for Morgan. And they’re trying to get Royal now.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Am I the only one bothered by his 70% burn rate?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
SD re-signed two OL and got Meachem to replace Jackson.
good thing. Phyllis Rivers is probably whining like a little B to management right now
VJ gone. Tolbert likely leaving. McNeill & Diehlman gone forever. Luis Castillo?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Id like Laron Landry brought in.. But most likely wont happen.
Pats looking at him..
March 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
So um, no moves yet in Free Agency?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I guess we are waiting to see if we can do a deal last minute with Wimbley before the deadline?
Maybe we will pay him big time?
March 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Am I the only one bothered by his 70% burn rate?
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Yes
I have a 100% burn rate. (I’m solid)
lol
March 14th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Skins already have Santana Moss, Jabar Gaffney, Anthony Armstrong, Fred Davis & Chris Cooley
now they add Garcon, Morgan & Royal?
planning to draft RGIII…
I hope they get Mike Bush too
Dan Snyder should know he can’t buy a contender. He’s tried it before
March 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I guess we are waiting to see if we can do a deal last minute with Wimbley before the deadline?
Maybe we will pay him big time?
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NOOOOOO…..
cut him already.
March 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Id like Laron Landry brought in.. But most likely wont happen.
Pats looking at him..
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People are complaining about DMAC(injury prone), but then want Tracy Porter and Landry signed.
Don’t want to hear more whinning.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Pay Wimbley big time? Was Al resuscitated or something? Cuz that is the only way the Raiders will give Wimbley even more money.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
I guess we are waiting to see if we can do a deal last minute with Wimbley before the deadline?
Maybe we will pay him big time?
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R-talk,
we’re already scheduled to “pay him big time” thats the problem. Reggie drew a line in the sand and said take a pay reduction or get lost. If he backs down from that, what kind of message does that sends to other players and their agents? RM will not budge.
It’s a game of chicken. We’ll see who swerves. My guess is neither, resulting in his departure
March 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Chaz was healthy & active for 15 games last year.
Didn’t he finish the season like 10th in receptions?
>>>>>
He needs to go to a team where the coach is smart enough to use him.
Schillens has better hands than DHB while asleep and yet prolly got targeted 1/10th the throws.
He will do well somewhere else… just watch. Possible number one in a few years as he regains his confidence.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I guess we are waiting to see if we can do a deal last minute with Wimbley before the deadline?
Maybe we will pay him big time?
________
NOOOOOO…..
cut him already.
_____________________________________________
As another poster in here astutely put it, we are waiting until the last minute (3/17, I believe), as the early free agency frenzy will be over by then. Kamerion playing hardball. So is Reggie.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Id like Laron Landry brought in.. But most likely wont happen.
Pats looking at him..
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People are complaining about DMAC(injury prone), but then want Tracy Porter and Landry signed.
Don’t want to hear more whinning.
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Im not one of those people..so.. my statement stands
March 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Chaz Schillens is not good at football.
Whether healthy or injured.
I dont understand these comments about him. He had ample chances this season to show something with the best pure passer the Raiders have had in years. When Moore and Ford were out for 5 games straight and he did nothing.
During that time DHB outshined him, and we’re talking about someone who is 6′4″ 225. If he had anything he would have shown it by now.
He is not good.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am
832.DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Am I the only one bothered by his 70% burn rate?
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Yes
I have a 100% burn rate. (I’m solid)
lol
@@@@@@@@
Hahaha!
When was that O, 3 years ago? Maybe he just had a bad year and learned from it. Hence the 2 solid season in 2 different systems.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Vikings reached agreement with former Seahawks tight end John Carslon on a five-year, $25 million deal.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:03 am
The GB game in particular we needed to target ANYONE besides DHB. First off, he let CWood run the slant route for him, and then he let two or three other balls clang of his hands… I’m like WHY ARE WE THROWING TO HIM???
March 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Id like Laron Landry brought in.. But most likely wont happen.
Pats looking at him..
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People are complaining about DMAC(injury prone), but then want Tracy Porter and Landry signed.
Don’t want to hear more whinning.
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Im not one of those people..so.. my statement stands
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Thats why I said people.
lol
March 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Come on Jer, throw us a bone! People are arguing over Chaz Schilens FFS!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
As another poster in here astutely put it, we are waiting until the last minute (3/17, I believe), as the early free agency frenzy will be over by then. Kamerion playing hardball. So is Reggie.
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Yes, & I was the first one who floated that idea.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Is it just me, or did Chaz look slow and timid this season? (probably scared to get re-injured)
March 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
843.guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Vikings reached agreement with former Seahawks tight end John Carslon on a five-year, $25 million deal.
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Why did he get pushed out of Seattle? He showed he could catch the ball a couple of years ago and then they brought in Zck last year?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
841. Schilens football skills have never been in question.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
832.DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Am I the only one bothered by his 70% burn rate?
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Yes
I have a 100% burn rate. (I’m solid)
lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
That’s why you are the president of TGP.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:08 am
no draft, no FA, player downgrades, ? Mark new coaching, int machine QB, injury prone starting RB. Lol at the optimism of some of you.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Vikings reached agreement with former Seahawks tight end John Carslon on a five-year, $25 million deal.
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is Visanthe Shiancoe a FA?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Wow!
Another dumb trade by the W’s that reeks of desperation to get their coveted “big man”!
What a joke. Trading away your best player and scorer and a nicely developing Udoh who is your best interior defender for a damaged goods banged up Bogut and an old Steph Jackson who has crappy attitude?!?
In a way, this trade was basically Ellis and Udoh for Bogut??
hahaha
Oh man…if this team doesn’t tank bad enough to keep that important 1st round pick….this trade will be even worse than it is now!
Same old Warriors…doing the same old stupid things!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
So why did they draft Rudolph from Notre Dame..
March 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Wow!
Another dumb trade by the W’s that reeks of desperation to get their coveted “big man”!
What a joke. Trading away your best player and scorer and a nicely developing Udoh who is your best interior defender for a damaged goods banged up Bogut and an old Steph Jackson who has crappy attitude?!?
In a way, this trade was basically Ellis and Udoh for Bogut??
hahaha
Oh man…if this team doesn’t tank bad enough to keep that important 1st round pick….this trade will be even worse than it is now!
Same old Warriors…doing the same old stupid things!
—-
Hate to say I told you so..
Had a better trade with the Magic.
Owner stubbornly took a worse trade to not help the Magic..
March 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
As another poster in here astutely put it, we are waiting until the last minute (3/17, I believe), as the early free agency frenzy will be over by then. Kamerion playing hardball. So is Reggie.
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Yes, & I was the first one who floated that idea.
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I was just saying the same thing to my friend, If Kam wants to play games he may come out on the the short end of the stick. He may be dissapointed when all the teams with lots of $$ use it up by the 17th!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
So, here are the five best and worst cornerbacks of 2010, based on burn rate (minimum 50 targets, which took Nnamdi Asomugha(notes) and his 39.4 percent burn rate on 33 targets out of the picture), with a bit of perspective on each. We’ll have the numbers on the best and worst safeties and linebackers up in short order.
The best
Darrelle Revis, New York Jets: 33.9%, 19 burns on 56 targets, 340 yards, 4 TD, 10 passes defensed
No real surprise there, right? What’s interesting to watch is that as Revis establishes himself as the no-doubt best cornerback in the game, his targets finally dropped — from 108 to 56 in a one-season span, per STATS, Inc. That’s what made his 2009 even more unreal; to put up a 37% burn rate on that many targets is truly out of the stratosphere.
Stanford Routt, Oakland Raiders: 39.4%, 39 burns on 99 targets, 635 yards, 5 TD, 13 passes defensed
A lot of people thought the Raiders were nuts for giving Routt a first- and third-round tender and then signing him to a large contract extension, but the numbers and the game tape will tell you that Routt lived up to that validation after a difficult start to his career. Of course, the question is whether he will be able to take over that Oakland secondary with Asomugha almost certainly out the door. Early indications are positive.
Brandon Carr, Kansas City Chiefs: 39.8%, 43 burns on 108 targets, 758 yards, 6 TD, 25 passes defensed
Carr is the forgotten man of the Chiefs’ impressive young secondary; most people focus on Brandon Flowers(notes) and safety Eric Berry(notes), and justifiably so. But Carr isn’t just assembling stats against pikers while Flowers (who ranked 11th among cornerbacks with a 49.5% burn rate) takes all the tough duty. He’s been just as important, especially in diagnosing and covering cluster formations on the other side of the one-on-one battles Flowers frequently has.
Tramon Williams(notes), Green Bay Packers: 43.5%, 40 burns on 92 targets, 533 yards, 3 TD, 20 passes defensed
If there’s one guy looking to challenge Revis right now, Williams may be it. Take out his atypically weak performance against Mario Manningham(notes) when the Packers faced the Giants late in the regular season, and he might be at or near the top in a few of these numbers.
Antonio Cromartie, New York Jets: 43.9%, 47 burns on 107 targets, 700 yards, 7 TD, 17 passes defensed
Cromartie is the least consistent corner on the top list. He’s always been a boom-and-bust guy capable of great coverage and exasperating mistakes. The touchdown total points to that, but he had a great season as Revis’ bookend and he should be a coveted free agent under the new CBA.
The worst
Richard Marshall(notes), Carolina Panthers: 71.3%, 72 burns on 101 targets, 765 yards, 5 TD, 7 passes defensed
Marshall’s been doing the contract dance with the Panthers for a few years now, but his numbers just don’t justify the inflated opinion. Carolina was horrid last year, but its front seven was surprisingly good, leaving most of the blame for these stats on the man himself.
DeAngelo Hall(notes), Washington Redskins: 70.7% 70 burns on 99 targets, 1,055 yards, 9 TD, 16 passes defensed
Hall is the Forrest Gump of cornerbacks — he’ll have multi-pick games based on a mystical “right-place/right-time” ability, but he’ll also run around in circles and get torched by scrubs. Washington seems the perfect spot for this talented but wildly inconsistent player.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I’m sorry. Next time I will just post a link.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Bye Jason Campbell we enjoyed your time here and you helped bring this team back to .500 you will be missed.
Chicago is a cold city you will need that 3.5 to stay warm!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Come on now we need a new post with JC singing on with Chicago today!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:13 am
So Bush and Green-Ellis are visiting with the Bengals today!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Vikings reached agreement with former Seahawks tight end John Carslon on a five-year, $25 million deal.
***
is Visanthe Shiancoe a FA?
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Nope, the Vikings plan since they only have Harvin is to go to more 2TE sets. Kinda like Gronk/Hernandez.
That’s sick money for Carlson, who’s not done jack in this league to be in that price range.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:14 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/higher-education-burn-rate-for-cornerbacks?urn=nfl,wp2995
March 14th, 2012 at 10:14 am
According to ESPN 1500 Twin Cities’ Judd Zulgad, it “sounds like” free agent Visanthe Shiancoe won’t be re-signing with the Vikings.
Shiancoe is reportedly drawing interest from six teams, and wasn’t a priority for the Vikings after the end of the regular season. He’s no longer needed in Minnesota following the rapid emergence of Kyle
March 14th, 2012 at 10:15 am
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports free agent RB Michael Bush will visit the Bengals.
Related: Bengals
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
March 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:14 am
According to ESPN 1500 Twin Cities’ Judd Zulgad, it “sounds like” free agent Visanthe Shiancoe won’t be re-signing with the Vikings.
Shiancoe is reportedly drawing interest from six teams, and wasn’t a priority for the Vikings after the end of the regular season. He’s no longer needed in Minnesota following the rapid emergence of Kyle
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wow, thought he was RFA, maybe Carlson isn’t just going to be the TE2.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
856.DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Wow!
Another dumb trade by the W’s that reeks of desperation to get their coveted “big man”!
What a joke. Trading away your best player and scorer and a nicely developing Udoh who is your best interior defender for a damaged goods banged up Bogut and an old Steph Jackson who has crappy attitude?!?
In a way, this trade was basically Ellis and Udoh for Bogut??
hahaha
Oh man…if this team doesn’t tank bad enough to keep that important 1st round pick….this trade will be even worse than it is now!
Same old Warriors…doing the same old stupid things!
—-
Hate to say I told you so..
Had a better trade with the Magic.
Owner stubbornly took a worse trade to not help the Magic..
^^^^^^^^
Told me so what?
My team is the Lake Show baby!
But I’m one of those who still root for W’s to do well….but they never do. haha
Who would W’s have got from Magic…Turk and who else?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Visanthe Shiancoe: Shiancoe not expected back with Vikings
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=939&line=229802&spln=1
March 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
866.r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:15 am
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports free agent RB Michael Bush will visit the Bengals.
Related: Bengals
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
^^^^^^^^
My guess is that Bush will probably just sign with the Bungals also.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Nope, the Vikings plan since they only have Harvin is to go to more 2TE sets
***
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Vikings
Visanthe Shiancoe isn’t listed. Plus like somebody else mentioned, Kyle Rudolph was drafted in the Top 50 last year
Carlson/Rudolph in 2012
is WR Michael Jenkins gonna start opposite Harvin?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:19 am
wow, thought he was RFA, maybe Carlson isn’t just going to be the TE2.
______________________________________________________
No you could be right, they really like Kyle Rudolph. Shiancoe was hurt a lot of last year, shoulder…
March 14th, 2012 at 10:19 am
you guys are quick!!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:19 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
856.DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Wow!
Another dumb trade by the W’s that reeks of desperation to get their coveted “big man”!
What a joke. Trading away your best player and scorer and a nicely developing Udoh who is your best interior defender for a damaged goods banged up Bogut and an old Steph Jackson who has crappy attitude?!?
In a way, this trade was basically Ellis and Udoh for Bogut??
hahaha
Oh man…if this team doesn’t tank bad enough to keep that important 1st round pick….this trade will be even worse than it is now!
Same old Warriors…doing the same old stupid things!
—-
Hate to say I told you so..
Had a better trade with the Magic.
Owner stubbornly took a worse trade to not help the Magic..
^^^^^^^^
Told me so what?
My team is the Lake Show baby!
But I’m one of those who still root for W’s to do well….but they never do. haha
Who would W’s have got from Magic…Turk and who else?
—-
Kaman, Turk & Ryan Anderson
March 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Listen, anytime a GM calls you up to offer his 7 footer, you better hang up. Nobody. I mean nobody gives you a 7 footer…unless he is no good, damaged good, or doing you a favor like West/Memphis/Gasol.
The W’s have this great tradition of trading away our best players and get nothing in return. New owners same result.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Orton signed on with Dallas, Bush visiting Chicago today
March 14th, 2012 at 10:22 am
We don’t need a replacement for Boss. CP3 doesn’t throw to his TE’s anyways.
Gordon is an excellent blocker.
Myers is an average blocker w/ good hands.
Ausberry is raw, but has a bright future. (look for him to be a surprise in camp)
March 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Dallas gets a huge cap penalty and sign Orton & Carr
Skins get a huge cap penalty and sign Garcon, Morgan & Royal
interesting …
March 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Dallas gets a huge cap penalty and sign Orton & Carr
Skins get a huge cap penalty and sign Garcon, Morgan & Royal
interesting …
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Skins were +30 million inder cap before cap penalty.
And that cap penalty can be spread out over 2 years.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Dallas gets a huge cap penalty and sign Orton & Carr
Skins get a huge cap penalty and sign Garcon, Morgan & Royal
interesting …
*********
They are both thumbing their noses at the NFL and giving Goodell the middle finger. There’s no way when push comes to shove the NFL can implement those cap penalties for refusing to collude with the other 30 owners. If Goodell takes this to court, and you can bet Jones and Snyder will sue, the case will get thrown out.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
874.DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:19 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
856.DennisAllensVisor Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Wow!
Another dumb trade by the W’s that reeks of desperation to get their coveted “big man”!
What a joke. Trading away your best player and scorer and a nicely developing Udoh who is your best interior defender for a damaged goods banged up Bogut and an old Steph Jackson who has crappy attitude?!?
In a way, this trade was basically Ellis and Udoh for Bogut??
hahaha
Oh man…if this team doesn’t tank bad enough to keep that important 1st round pick….this trade will be even worse than it is now!
Same old Warriors…doing the same old stupid things!
—-
Hate to say I told you so..
Had a better trade with the Magic.
Owner stubbornly took a worse trade to not help the Magic..
^^^^^^^^
Told me so what?
My team is the Lake Show baby!
But I’m one of those who still root for W’s to do well….but they never do. haha
Who would W’s have got from Magic…Turk and who else?
—-
Kaman, Turk & Ryan Anderson
^^^^^^^^
Yep. That trade would have been better than that garbage they did yesterday.
If the W’s don’t tank bad enough to keep that 1st round pick….that will make the trade even WORSE!
Same ole stupid W’s.
I’m sure West wasn’t involved in making this ridiculous trade.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Bush would probably be a preferred option over Green-Ellis because of his superior passing-game skills. Bush is a bone-crushing pass blocker and a deceptively smooth receiver for his size
Evan Silva (PFT)
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LOL!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Listen, anytime a GM calls you up to offer his 7 footer, you better hang up. Nobody. I mean nobody gives you a 7 footer
————————————————————
Good point.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Bush would probably be a preferred option over Green-Ellis because of his superior passing-game skills. Bush is a bone-crushing pass blocker and a deceptively smooth receiver for his size
Evan Silva (PFT)
***
LOL!
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Sometimes I wonder? Do they guys even watch film?
lol
March 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
@Guest123
As I said on another site…I think the NFL hierarchy may soon get a reminder of whom signs their paychecks… There is a 10 year CBA in place and huge TV deals…They are not in a position to push anything
March 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Kaman, Turk & Ryan Anderson
^^^^^^^^
Yep. That trade would have been better than that garbage they did yesterday.
If the W’s don’t tank bad enough to keep that 1st round pick….that will make the trade even WORSE!
Same ole stupid W’s.
I’m sure West wasn’t involved in making this ridiculous trade.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
882.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Bush would probably be a preferred option over Green-Ellis because of his superior passing-game skills. Bush is a bone-crushing pass blocker and a deceptively smooth receiver for his size
Evan Silva (PFT)
***
LOL!
++++++++
double lol
March 14th, 2012 at 10:42 am
If Bogut can bounce back from his injury. Than its a good trade. If not, then we got raped again!
Curry
Thompson
Wright
Lee
Bogut
Not to be bad, if we can keep Steph and Bogut both on the floor.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Dallas QB Stephen McGee isn’t pleased.
He probably thought he had the Cowboys backup QB on lock down after Kitna had the back injury and then retired
March 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Kaman, Turk & Ryan Anderson
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How is Kaman better than Bogut?
Did you see Turk fold the tent when he went to Toronto? I think that’s the Turk you’d see playing with Kaman instead of Howard.
If Bogut can get healthy and the Ws keep the #7 pick, they will be MUCH better next year. Playoff team for sure.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
BJGE is a MUCH better blocker than Bush. WTF do these guys watch?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
887.Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
882.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Bush would probably be a preferred option over Green-Ellis because of his superior passing-game skills. Bush is a bone-crushing pass blocker and a deceptively smooth receiver for his size
Evan Silva (PFT)
***
LOL!
++++++++
double lol
I guess we can all LOL at this one…where are these guys getting that info?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Raiders are not going to jump into FA until Friday or Saturday.
Hope thet are looking at signing any one of these guys:
NT Solial
NT Franklin
OLB Tulloch
RT Winston
C Myers
CB Porter
March 14th, 2012 at 10:46 am
I would’ve traded Curry though. Been saying that since the start of the year. Ws would have gotten a king’s ransom for Curry. Isn’t he just as injury prone as Bogut?
Ellis and Thompson backcourt in the coming years would have been one of the best in the league, imo.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Carr is still a FA.
Let’s cut Wimbley, Henderson , and TK.
Sign:
CB B Carr
DT Bunkley or Franklin
OLB Leroy Hill or Woodyard
RT: E Winston
It can be done.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:48 am
where are these guys getting that info?
***
@Hwnrdr
Bush’s agent!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Jhill,
Gasol for Melo?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Raider O Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Carr is still a FA.
Let’s cut Wimbley, Henderson , and TK.
Sign:
CB B Carr
DT Bunkley or Franklin
OLB Leroy Hill or Woodyard
RT: E Winston
It can be done.
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So you changed your mind on TK?
Cut his ass and Hendu.
Sign Soali!!!(instant upgrade)
I also like Hill, but didn’t he just get arrested again?(weed)
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The candidates for LaRon Landry are the Jets, Eagles, Lions, and Patriots – PFT
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Is EJ Henderson still available?
Would be an upgrade over Romac.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
“Bush is a bone-crushing pass blocker…”
Well, he DID allow Palmer’s bones to get crushed a time or two….sno not untirely untrue.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
2012 Season: Carson Palmer > Peyton Manning
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I’m glad we kept Curry..don’t think we could’ve gotten much for him!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
HairyBush Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
As another poster in here astutely put it, we are waiting until the last minute (3/17, I believe), as the early free agency frenzy will be over by then. Kamerion playing hardball. So is Reggie.
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Yes, & I was the first one who floated that idea.
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I was just saying the same thing to my friend, If Kam wants to play games he may come out on the the short end of the stick. He may be dissapointed when all the teams with lots of $$ use it up by the 17th!
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GOOD POINT! He could end up lossing money in his greed to leverage the Raiders, if the big money is dried up by the 17th. He’s no M. Williams.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The candidates for LaRon Landry are the Jets, Eagles, Lions, and Patriots – PFT
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The hulk will probably hurt himself after a punishing tackle.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Bush’s next Bone crushing block will be his first Bone crushing block. Im convinced these writers do not watch football. If any of you are dissatisfied with your current careers, try sports writer, apparently, anyone can do it.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I’m glad we kept Curry..don’t think we could’ve gotten much for him!
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A healthy Steph, yes (many takers). An injured Steph, no.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Bush is a bone-crushing pass blocker
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??????????
March 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
896.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:48 am
where are these guys getting that info?
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@Hwnrdr
Bush’s agent!
LOL
March 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Someone asked Gasol for Melo? NO!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
DMAC,
I like TK, but we have Houston, Bryant, and Seymour, so I don’t think we need him. I also think its a good idea to add a NT to help against the run. Henderson was a good idea, but he was old and injured.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Gasol for Melo?
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Of course!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:54 am
“bone crushing”, meaning – ow, I hurt my pinkie!, MWWWWWWAAAA……AAAAAAA!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I’m glad we kept Curry..don’t think we could’ve gotten much for him!
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A healthy Steph, yes (many takers). An injured Steph, no.
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No, no no….you have me mistaken!
I’m talking about Aaron Curry….I’m a die hard Laker!!
LMFAO!!!!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
And I will throw your cackling buffoon a$$ off the wagon every time you hop on…haha heehee lol
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DKnight007 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
My team is the Lake Show baby!
But I’m one of those who still root for W’s to do well….but they never do. haha
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The candidates for LaRon Landry are the Jets, Eagles, Lions, and Patriots – PFT
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The hulk will probably hurt himself after a punishing tackle.
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I think Landry just decided that he doesnt want to be a Safety anymore, and is ready to make the jump to LB. Cant recall a Safety that big.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Gasol for Amare and Novak
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
r8eray Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I’m glad we kept Curry..don’t think we could’ve gotten much for him!
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A healthy Steph, yes (many takers). An injured Steph, no.
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No, no no….you have me mistaken!
I’m talking about Aaron Curry….I’m a die hard Laker!!
LMFAO!!!!
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My bad.
Dubs all day here!!!
lol
March 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
John David Booty Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Bush’s next Bone crushing block will be his first Bone crushing block. Im convinced these writers do not watch football. If any of you are dissatisfied with your current careers, try sports writer, apparently, anyone can do it.
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You’re probably right. They watched the Jets/Pats/9ers/cowgirls and just make up sh!t about other teams. Hmmm Bush is 260 pounds!! Damn he must be a great blocker!
March 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
What’s up Mista?
What you think about that Monta trade?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Dakota,
KG will sign with the Lakers as a FA next year, so yeah I’d do Gasol for Melo.
March 14th, 2012 at 10:57 am
John David Booty Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The candidates for LaRon Landry are the Jets, Eagles, Lions, and Patriots – PFT
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The hulk will probably hurt himself after a punishing tackle.
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I think Landry just decided that he doesnt want to be a Safety anymore, and is ready to make the jump to LB. Cant recall a Safety that big.
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Dude is fk’n huge!!! (probably juiced)
Is he moving to LB or wtf?
March 14th, 2012 at 10:57 am
917.J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Gasol for Amare and Novak
Ok, I can live with that
March 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Cant recall a Safety that big
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Booty,
what about Darnell Bing?
March 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Dakota,
If you could find a way to get Carmelo on the team, I’d be ok with you also letting Bynum go for Howard.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
LOL, Hwn.
Funny thing is Novak is the prize, imo.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Raiders official Twitter account announces Cooper Carlisle and John Henderson have been released
March 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
3,2,1…..
March 14th, 2012 at 11:02 am
No joke either: https://twitter.com/#!/RAIDERS/status/179990284246065152
March 14th, 2012 at 11:02 am
So the entire right side of the O-line needs to be addressed, and the entire right side of the Texans O-line are free agents. Hmm…
March 14th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Good move for the Raiders, though. Needed to be done.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:03 am
YoungAmerican Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 11:02 am
So the entire right side of the O-line needs to be addressed, and the entire right side of the Texans O-line are free agents. Hmm…
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Bring em’ on.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:03 am
I know some of you guys dont watch the Knicks like I have been since Lin started playing.
The Knicks would dump either Amare or Melo in a heartbeat for anything legit. Gasol for Melo makes the most sense for both teams. Melo is playing and demanding the ball like he is Kobe but he’s not Kobe. He is destroying the Knicks now. Shooting 39% since he came back. Takes the most shots on the team and still get less FTA then Lin. Maybe he will put his ego away in LA.
STAT is a barely a shadow of his former self. Dude can’t jump and his shots are blocked in the post. Got 3 rebounds against Bulls while the Bulls got 22 offensive rebounds.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Kind of surprised Coup got released. Wouldn’t mind seeing back as a back-up.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Out with the old and in with the new…
March 14th, 2012 at 11:04 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:57 am
John David Booty Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The candidates for LaRon Landry are the Jets, Eagles, Lions, and Patriots – PFT
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The hulk will probably hurt himself after a punishing tackle.
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I think Landry just decided that he doesnt want to be a Safety anymore, and is ready to make the jump to LB. Cant recall a Safety that big.
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Dude is fk’n huge!!! (probably juiced)
Is he moving to LB or wtf?
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Definitely doesnt look natural. He has always had a cut physique, and I definitely like a little extra muscle on a Safety for hitting power, but realistically, it is truly going to be very difficult for him to play Safety like that. Gonna be interesting to watch him try though.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:05 am
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Kaman, Turk & Ryan Anderson
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How is Kaman better than Bogut?
Did you see Turk fold the tent when he went to Toronto? I think that’s the Turk you’d see playing with Kaman instead of Howard.
If Bogut can get healthy and the Ws keep the #7 pick, they will be MUCH better next year. Playoff team for sure.
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Crazy talk. W’s would have got out of Biedrins contract in trade and got back a center equal to Bogut in Kaman & one of the top young PFs in Ryand Anderson.
Instead they trade their best young big in Udoh and take back SJax contract.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Thought this was funny:
Courtesy of: LaRon Landry
Obviously much of this is written in Twitter shorthand, but here’s the dialog. Go to Landry’s feed if you want to see it all.
Fan: we need answers…as a Skins fan, i feel im owed an explanation as to why u feel like its ok to go the same route as David Boston
Landry: lol not in my veins fam… Stay blessed
Fan: cool. well we’ll see come august. we dont need you tearing a bicep when you go to wrap tackle.
Landry: if u wanna get real homie we can put it on the table-talk about it!!! Nvr know at goes on behind the scenes but I’m blessed-ready
Landry: if it comes to that I persevere thru it!!! Don’t forget achillies got like that bc I shot it up to play for y’all balee that
Fan: i watch every game, son. i remember. the fans concerned tho. pics surface of you muscled up beyond belief and it seems kinda off
Landry: u right I’m 218 no fat boss I just grind F sleep I can’t bc the thought of failure can’t do it!!! Respect tho homie
Fan: i’m not entirely sure what you’re saying, but my only point is we need you healthy more now that ever with Otogwe gone.
Landry: u know exactly wt I’m saying… Don’t lie to urself boss
Fan: the finer points of your syntax elude me sometimes.
Landry: respect
Landry: water getting to deep I know-get out ur doing right!!!
Fan: all im tryna figure out is if you think its safe to carry around a DE’s worth of muscle playing the saftey position. thats all
Landry: DE 218lbs.. .cmon man I’m done Lil bro do research or learn about the game!!! Lots of athletes are gifted only a few are SPECIAL!!!
Fan: yea u 218… but you gonna break down in the open field looking like this? what about ya hip swivel?
Landry: great art work of hard work you should try it clown instead of sitting on the couch criticizing- u lame Otta here!! Yyyeerrr
Fan: this aint about my workouts, bro. i’m doing fine. i just need know you wont resemble a ‘roided up body builder come Kickoff 2012
Here is a pic of the dude on roids!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/laron-landry-says-he-hurt-his-achilles-when-he-shot-it-up-for-redskins/2012/03/13/gIQAHsca9R_blog.html
PS
Sorry for being too long!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:05 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Kind of surprised Coup got released. Wouldn’t mind seeing back as a back-up.
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Totally agree.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Chargers got Jarrett Johnson. Unfortunately for them, he won’t help them in the pass rush department. Very solid in all other aspects of the game, though.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:06 am
LaRon Landry’s personal trainer = Bill Romanowski
March 14th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Chargers got Jarret Johnson..dangit!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Biggest loser in the current football player circus – RGIII.
Having to look at Ratface and Ratface Jr until they are fired is a sad thing to do to the young man.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:07 am
raidertalk Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
HairyBush Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
guest123 Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
As another poster in here astutely put it, we are waiting until the last minute (3/17, I believe), as the early free agency frenzy will be over by then. Kamerion playing hardball. So is Reggie.
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Yes, & I was the first one who floated that idea.
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I was just saying the same thing to my friend, If Kam wants to play games he may come out on the the short end of the stick. He may be dissapointed when all the teams with lots of $$ use it up by the 17th!
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GOOD POINT! He could end up lossing money in his greed to leverage the Raiders, if the big money is dried up by the 17th. He’s no M. Williams.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I now have even More respect now for Reggie Mac!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:08 am
920.hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
What’s up Mista?
What you think about that Monta trade?
^^^^^^^^
Does it really matter what stinky dog s**t comes out of Sista Douche Stains mouth??
Sista S**t thinks it will help make the W’s a championship team……AGAIN. LMAO!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Raiders official Twitter account announces Cooper Carlisle and John Henderson have been released
https://twitter.com/#!/RAIDERS/status/179990284246065152
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blog GM jfb will be pissed !!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
R8,
Thats the fake pic, but on the other one he’s still huge. (just not over exagerrated)
March 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I know this is sacreligious to even bring up, but everything Reggie has done, or not done seems to be met with nothing but praise and understanding.
I know guys will correct me, but isn’t one of the hallmarks of a genius GM the ability to make lemonade out of lemons?
Corky has said there’s many things that can be done in the Raiders situation to get free agents that can help this team win.
All I see happening is guys getting cut to save $, which is fine, and needs to be done, but it doesn’t take a genius GM to do that. A good accountant can figure out liabilities and make the needed adjustments, cuts etc.
I wanna see him pull some magic. That’s what I thought he brought to the table.
I’m not judging Reggie as “bad”, but I’m not ready to even say he’s even “good”.
I wanna see him pull a deal. We arent even being mentioned for ANYTHING out there as even a remote possibility for ANYBODY and this team has needs…big time needs.
It doesn’t take a genius to not do anything but cut guys and wait while all the movers and shakers make their deals and then “swoop in” and pick up some scraps.
I know “Reggie is the best thing that has ever happened to the Raiders” etc. etc.
I feel like he could be arrested for robbing a liquor store and everybody would be saying how it was “the best decision” on his part etc.
I know… “we don’t have any $ man” but as cork says, there’s ways to get things done.
I want Reggie to do something special, not just cut people and take scraps.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Raiders released Cooper Carlisle
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Now we can finally put all this Savage vs Beast nonsense to rest!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Dallas gets a huge cap penalty and sign Orton & Carr
Skins get a huge cap penalty and sign Garcon, Morgan & Royal
interesting …
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C’mon RR. You know you want to say it. Let me help you out: Salary Cap Hell is a myth. It’s the greatest excuse there is for cutting players and sitting on your hands during free agency. Everyone on this board should completely disregard it, kind of like NFL front offices do.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Free agent CB Aaron Ross will reportedly visit the Redskins on Friday.
Ross will first visit the Bengals. Washington has had its sights set on the second-tier cornerbacks after losing out on Cortland Finnegan.
Related: Bengals, Redskins
Source: John Keim on Twitter
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WTF???
SMH….
March 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Last year WR’s:
(PASSES COMPLETED/PASSES TARGETED)
Schillens: 23/38 = 60.5%
Ford: 19/33 = 57.5%
DHB: 64/113 = 56.6%
Moore: 33/77 = 43%
Talk about “Money Ball”! Pretty sure this is why Schillens will get a pretty nice contract… while some Raider fans here thinks he “sucks!”
March 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Hwn,
Yesterday I was HOT. Today a little less. I hate to see Udoh leave more than Monta. I hate S Jackson returning I hope they have a trade worked out for him. Bogut will be nice next year. They threw in the towel on the playoffs this year only 3 games out that sucks! I think we will be better off next year though.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
925.J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Dakota,
If you could find a way to get Carmelo on the team, I’d be ok with you also letting Bynum go for Howard.
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Did you read that report that in just the past couple of weeks Howard has been called by Kobe and told he doesn’t want Howard on the Lakers?????
If that is true, it is time to kick Kobe to the curb. Can’t let the fkn selfish fool destroy our chances to reload instead of rebuild.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Chargers got Jarret Johnson
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guess they aren’t waiting around for Kam Wimbley?
March 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
new post
March 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Other than Reggie White and Charles Woodson, did Green Bay ever sign any big ticket/big name FAs in the past 20 years? None come to mind.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
After the Warriors nutty trade, Reggie and the rest of the local GMs would have to do a lot bad to match that trade.
New Post.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Coop released?
Looks like it is time to implement the Alex Parsons Project…Kirwan said he could be the next John Randal! (undrafted superstar)
March 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
new post !!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Looks like Mckinzie i puttin some pressure on Wimbley..letting all the teams spend that $$ before he can hit FA
March 14th, 2012 at 11:21 am
So far I see nothing to indicate that Oakland is all of a sudden a more preferred destination now that the satanic Al Davis is not around anymore.
Is Reggie the kind of guy that players wnat to come play for? How about Allen? Bush and Campbell can’t wait to get the heck outta here and take backup roles.
I hear Bush is visiting the Bears to talk about a backup role behind Forte who is not injured nearly as much as DMAC, so his chances of starting are even less.
Is Reggie and Allen trying to create an environment that guys wanna come be a part of?
I hope so.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Cb: Carr, *Porter, Middleton, *Marshall, Trufant(stop gap)
lb: lofton, hawthorne, mcclain, *lawson, mays, walden, woodyard, wheeler, ej henderson, *eron henderson, *leroy hill
Nt: *Bunkley,*Franklin,Garay, Soliali, rodgers, *okoye, sims
ol: *myers, wells, grubbs, bell, mathis, *mckinzie, *collins, rachal, zuttah, satele, l*ocklear, carey
* is people I think we should take a long look at
March 14th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Mike D’antoni is resigning
maybe the knicks have hope
March 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
JHenderson & Carlisle released.
March 14th, 2012 at 11:44 am
I made that call that Bush would sign with the Bengals about a month ago. He stays helthier than Benson, runs just as hard, and he can catch out the backfield. Dalton was in need of that last year. Also, he played at Louisville real close to Cincy so they know what the guy can do. Not surprised one bit, Bush will be in a great situation with the Bengal’s.
By the way Bengals were 40 mill under the salary cap so they have more money to burn on other players as well. They are in a good spot, dang!!
March 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Finally. Wimblys next..
March 14th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Corkys Boner Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
LBRAIDERS Says:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Prior going to back up Palmer!!
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Learn how to smell his name first retard.
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You’re going to call someone a retard because of a spelling error? LMAO what is his name supposed to smell like, genius?
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I smelled it wrong intentionally. Get a clue Jackwad.
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Reminds of that kid in fourth grade that accidentally smacks himself in the face and then acts like he meant to do it.
I spelled a word wrong “intentionally” after calling another dude a retard because he couldn’t spell.
GTFOH!
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