Raiders finally jump into free agency pool
By Steve Corkran
Friday, March 16th, 2012 at 3:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders signed free agent guard Mike Brisiel and free agent cornerback Ron Bartell within the past hour, marking the first signings by the Raiders since free agency started Tuesday.
Bartell, 30, spent the past seven seasons with the St. Louis Rams. He will be counted upon to help fill the void created by the release of 2011 opening-game starters Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson.
Bartell will be joined in the fray by holdovers Chimdi Chekwa, DeMarcus Van Dyke and Brandon Underwood. Bartell started 65 games for the Rams, though he missed all but one game last season with an injury.
Brisiel, 29, spent the past six seasons with the Houston Texans. He will be penciled in to replace Cooper Carlisle, who was released earlier this week, at right guard.
Brisiel started 47 games for the Texans, including 13 last season. He is reunited with Frank Pollack and Greg Knapp, who coached for the Texans the past five and two seasons, respectively.
The Raiders had some money to throw around at players after spending most of the past two months paring salary and creating salary-cap space.
Earlier today, the Raiders freed up $4.5 million by releasing veteran outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley. The Raiders still have around $10 million in cap room.
Also, former Raiders wide receiver Chaz Schilens signed with the New York Jets today. He visited the Cardinals, as well, before signing with the Jets. He is reunited with former Raiders wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal.
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March 16th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL
G Mike Brisiel getting $20 mil over 5 years from Raiders. He’d been looking for $4 per. Congrats Mike!
March 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Well 2 seed mizzou blew it to 15 seed norfolk st….Mike had 22…15 in second half…..too bad he has selfish ass teammates like flip pressey and marcus denmon….I’m pissed and shall be for a while
March 16th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Still need another starting CB (porter), OL, Backup QB and at least two LBs.. This is a good start.
March 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Killed my bracket B, but cuzzo played outstanding.
March 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Raiders not only have to address starting OLmen, but back-ups to PUSH starters.
Barksdale RT on roster but otherwise we have B.Campbell, so Winston RT signing would still make sense not only pairing with Brisiel, (maybe even Myers too), having that continuity there with guys who are all accustomed playing together (Pollack included), but also will help Barksdale improve having to push to be a starter.
March 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I’m interested to see what happens with the other CB slot. Do we move Huff there, sign Porter, or go with the Chekwa/DVD winner?
March 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Great! Thanks A Million for the update Steve! Good Looking Out! Yes Sir! Let the party begin! lol
March 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
well…there u are…
March 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Cool…
March 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Evan Silva @evansilva
#Raiders Bartell, Brisiel deals will get no pub because they happened late Friday but those are 2 rock-solid starters. Great pickups.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
bcz24 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
You count the incentives upfront towards the cap, and get a credit if he doesn’t meet them.
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bcz, as always, the blog cap guru.
Thanks.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Well 2 seed mizzou blew it to 15 seed norfolk st….Mike had 22…15 in second half…..too bad he has selfish ass teammates like flip pressey and marcus denmon….I’m pissed and shall be for a while
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That and the dumb ass coach…11 should be starting, he took the game over in spite of his team….
March 16th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Yo, practicing with Rasta Ganja and working out a NEW TIGHT JAM for the Reggae Boat Cruise tomorrow!
This joint is sure to get the ladies moist in all the right places and it also pumps up the power and size of my ding-dong
Check it out, but be sure to imagine steel drums wafting in the distance and a stripper massaging your nads with cocoa butter
Bob Marley, you dah friend of Beeech Dawg
When we party dem strippers massage our log
Don’t forget Jamaica, yah we’ll get super baked
Them shorties bow down to my wild trouser snake
FEELIN DAH REGGAE MUSIC, MON
March 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
yo
March 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
bcz24 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Evan Silva @evansilva
#Raiders Bartell, Brisiel deals will get no pub because they happened late Friday but those are 2 rock-solid starters. Great pickups.
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PFT love?
Wow.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Beecher my family plays ball and did well…anyone in your bloodline do schit? Beecher come up to Oakland and I got this heat to dump off on you…dome shots btch ill murder you…and you a scared btch cuz u know u gonna stay hiding like the phag u are….yea I said…please come up here I. Double Dog Dare ya….bet u gonna see if heaven or hell is real btch!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
I’m not into basketball, but caught the end of mizzou game, sucks for ur cuz b@uce man
March 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
10.bcz24 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Evan Silva @evansilva
#Raiders Bartell, Brisiel deals will get no pub because they happened late Friday but those are 2 rock-solid starters. Great pickups.
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The best pickup so far has been Reggie McKenzie.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
oh no, a double-dog dare!!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Tracy Porter next!
Get it done Big Reg!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
CB Porter and LB Woodyard or Hill would round out a very nice FA class for Oakland. All are capable contributors, and will help hold down the fort until Allen and McKenzie have enough ammunition to make real moves.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
ish is getting real now
March 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Thec and bcz…thanks….yeah I was pissed all year and coach gave flip last shot? This is why he needs to enter draft and not come back…or go overseas…fk frank haith….Beecher I got a ticket for u buddy let’s see how you talk with holow tips in your skull you btch!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Sorry for your loss, B. We were all pulling for you.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Eric Winston @ericwinston Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I’ve never played w/ a tougher guy then Mike B. He is respected by everyone and is a damn good guard. Oak got better today. Congrats Mike!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
PLEASE sign Porter!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Trinity yeah it does but when u got selfish guys on ur team that’s how it goes down in hoop….pressey and denmon are selfish
March 16th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Im a gambling man, watch Winston balk at Chiefs offer now that Brisiel agreed w/raiders, will pique his interest.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Well 2 seed mizzou blew it to 15 seed norfolk st….Mike had 22…15 in second half…..too bad he has selfish ass teammates like flip pressey and marcus denmon….I’m pissed and shall be for a while
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March 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Happy bout our two free agent signing. Blue collar hard hat wearing players. One with a lot to prove coming off injury, the other play through injuries. Nice.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
AlexMR u can come down too…I got plenty of bullets u can take 2 or 3 to your mask as well btch
March 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Beecher my family plays ball and did well…anyone in your bloodline do schit? Beecher come up to Oakland and I got this heat to dump off on you…dome shots btch ill murder you…and you a scared btch cuz u know u gonna stay hiding like the phag u are….yea I said…please come up here I. Double Dog Dare ya….bet u gonna see if heaven or hell is real btch!
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OMG how *uckin high school are you dude? Callin’ somebody out on a chat message board. Oooooooo, how frightening!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
beech’s lyrics would likely improve with lead in his brain.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
HA ha, settle down, Brian the Genital!
Have yourself one of those cold brews from the dorm fridge! That’s the one on the carpet in the sports room.
Brah, cousin did WAY better than I thought, only losing to a 15th seed in an epic choke job.
Don’t worry, sure he’ll wind up a great assistant coach at a highly regarded middle school. We’re talking free cafeteria lunches everyday, homie!
MO SWIZZLE TO THE BEAT BOX NIZZLE
March 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Thec and bcz…thanks….yeah I was pissed all year and coach gave flip last shot? This is why he needs to enter draft and not come back…or go overseas
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Hope he stays, will help his draft status as he could play in the league.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Thec and bcz…thanks….yeah I was pissed all year and coach gave flip last shot? This is why he needs to enter draft and not come back…or go overseas…fk frank haith….Beecher I got a ticket for u buddy let’s see how you talk with holow tips in your skull you btch!
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LMAO! Always the gangsta. Real gangsters love Forest Gump.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Dave u are a btch too…fk you phaggot! I’ll ace u too mthfka…we can meet today btch!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
would you at least buy me a few burgers with the $ you owe me before you capped me?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Alex Beecher doesn’t have a brain
March 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
LOL, Brien Dixon just threatened to murder me and Beeecham over the internet. Maybe I should call the FBI.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I don’t owe u schit MR…u welched on bet ya damnself with a phony address cuz ur a liar
March 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
How’s the water?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
I feel a beech basketball song coming up soon, something that tops Ice Cube’s Today Was a Good Day.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Anyone who wants it knows gow to find me…I ain’t running scared…fk y’all punks!…outro
March 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Dave u are a btch too…fk you phaggot! I’ll ace u too mthfka…we can meet today btch!
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I’ll be right up. Be sure to wait for me.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
MTM,
double dog dare?
Classic.
Post a hoodtube of the beat down.
Cats over here can’t get enough bb since J. Lin burst on the scene.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Brien, I bet you would love your cousin playing in the NBA. You would be one of those pathetic hangers on mooching off your little cousin just like Jamarcus’ family.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Anyone who wants it knows gow to find me…I ain’t running scared…fk y’all punks!…outro
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So how are all the English as a second language classes goin’ so far?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
lol, you shouldn’t care if the address is real or not if you just send the $. If I want that $ wasted on a fake address, it’s my $, so who cares.
Anyways, it’s all good. I’m glad I knew the Raiders were not a playoff team last year while the Code Blacks were wrong.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
quality pickups? you guys are high….
March 16th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Welp, its been fun. TrollPatrol shows up just in time to ruin it. Have a good weekend. One Nation. Raider Nation.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Brien’s Ebonics is fake. He is a middle class kid from Alameda.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Raiders are lead item at PFT right now.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/
March 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
LOL, Brien Dixon just threatened to murder me and Beeecham over the internet. Maybe I should call the FBI.
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Evidently Brien DICK-son is aptly named.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Brian the Genital, are you sure you’re ready to perform a triple homicide just because cousin lost to a no name 15th seed in one of the biggest choke jobs in college basketball history?
Nerd, this is just another hilarious Kelly Family highlight blooper. Embrace the reality!
Drink a dorm fridge beer and pop on some Law & Order. Unless you gotta get to that evening shift at KFC.
YO WRECKS N EFFECT COMING ATCH 2012 MO WIZZLE FRESH
March 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
G Mike Brisiel getting $20 mil over 5 years from Raiders. He’d been looking for $4 per. Congrats Mike!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Anybody have an opinion of Bartell? Never heard of him before this week
March 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
“Bartell, 30, missed all but one game last season due to a severe neck injury. He’s one of the most underrated corners in football when healthy, however, and adds much needed experience to the perimeter of Oakland’s secondary. Bartell is a big (6’1/205), physical press cornerback and
the No. 32 overall player on the PFT Hot 100 list.
Brisiel is an ideal fit for Oakland’s zone-blocking system and will immediately enter the starting lineup at right guard, replacing Cooper Carlisle.
Brisiel didn’t make the top 100 because he’s a one-scheme lineman, but the Raiders run that scheme.”
March 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
The Rams are “out of the mix” for free agent RT Eric Winston, according to Alex Marvez of FOX Sports.
Related: Rams
Source: Alex Marvez on Twitter
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Yup, that’s right….CAUSE HE’S COMING TO OAKLAND!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
“we’re number 32!”
March 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
LOL, Brien Dixon just threatened to murder me and Beeecham over the internet. Maybe I should call the FBI.
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Evidently Brien DICK-son is aptly named.
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Get this Dave, according to his facebook site, DIXON stands for:
Dynamic Innovative Xtraordinary Outstanding Nigga
March 16th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Alright Winston, you can block for 54-year old Steven Jackson, or 24-year old Darrien McFadden.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Brian the Genital, are you sure you’re ready to perform a triple homicide just because cousin lost to a no name 15th seed in one of the biggest choke jobs in college basketball history?
Nerd, this is just another hilarious Kelly Family highlight blooper. Embrace the reality!
Drink a dorm fridge beer and pop on some Law & Order. Unless you gotta get to that evening shift at KFC.
YO WRECKS N EFFECT COMING ATCH 2012 MO WIZZLE FRESH
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LMFAO! Too much!!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
What we made a move?
Where is Tracy Porter?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
darrien? what the…
off-season rust.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
LOL, Brien Dixon just threatened to murder me and Beeecham over the internet. Maybe I should call the FBI.
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Evidently Brien DICK-son is aptly named.
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Get this Dave, according to his facebook site, DIXON stands for:
Dynamic Innovative Xtraordinary Outstanding Nigga
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Wow! The guy even does acronyms without a net! Impressive.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Glass Schillens is finally gone huh? Good job Reggie…way to clear your plate of dead weight. Now bring in some LB’s. Sign Leinart, and scour the wire for a Right Tackle….please!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
AWESOME !
ESPN if running a poll asking if Mizzou’s epic tank job is the biggest 15/2 upset in NCAA history!
In other news, Brian the Genital just kicked his dog, strangled his goldfish and is threatening to shoot his weiner in the head if it winks at him again
March 16th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Rejected rhymes for Beech’s Reggae album!
“Brian Genital’s gun be poppin’,
but the beech’s head still boppin’
cuz one chokes up the March Madness
while beech makes ladies holla “oh my goodness!”
March 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Love these signings. Would love to see another upgrade on our o-line and corner or linebacker. Keep giving me value reggie mac
March 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Linebacker Vontaze Burfict supposedly “bombed” at the Pro Day workout before NFL scouts Friday. He could fall far enough to reach Raiders.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Porter and Leinart next?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Classic, Brien blaming coaches and other players for his cousin’s failure.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
I think the O-line upgrades will come within with Barksdale becoming a solid RT or depth at G.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Of all the players kept on the roster by the Raiders’ new management team — About 40 or more — Only 3 were not drafted or unsigned free agents by the Raiders.
QB Palmer DL Seymour DB/KR McCann. In other words, except for those three,
every player on the roster was picked by Al Davis (he also made the deal for
Seymour). Interesting, huh?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
We still need a dominant C
March 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Now all you toolbags can stop b!tching because Reggie hasn’t done anything.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I’ll leave you guys with the somewhat good news:
2012 draft:
1st round – Carson Palmer
2nd round – Joseph Barker
3rd round – Taiwan Jones
supplemental pick -
4th round – Jason Campbell
5th round –
6th round –
7th round – Aaron Curry
March 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I hope barksdale pans out, he would be a very important man to watch if he is the right tackle this year
March 16th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
SR Raider Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
We still need a dominant C
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Yep
March 16th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Joseph Barksdale
March 16th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
retry
2012 draft:
1st round – Carson Palmer
2nd round – Joseph Barksdale
3rd round – Taiwan Jones
supplemental pick -
4th round – Jason Campbell
5th round –
6th round –
7th round – Aaron Curry
March 16th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Raiders need some depth and or talent upgrade at lb and cb….and soon would be nice
March 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
was today not soon enough?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
we still have a 3rd round pick “alex7″
March 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Missed Aaron Curry. Not an Al pick.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Brien just posted this sad rhyme on his facebook page:
March Madness, gonna take it so far
Drove down to watch my cous in my Daddy’s car.
Everything was looking so good
This was our chance to get out of the hood
But little cous, yo, he didn’t have the nerve
And I got schooled by the #1 perv
Master Beeecham, he schooled my ass
Master Beeecham, he has no class
Master Beeecham, his dick done smell
But he still got it better than Bri and the Family Kell
March 16th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
actually, strike that, im not sure anymore lol
March 16th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
if we sign winston, myers and hawthorne that would be amazing
March 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Brien just posted this sad rhyme on his facebook page:
March Madness, gonna take it so far
Drove down to watch my cous in my Daddy’s car.
Everything was looking so good
This was our chance to get out of the hood
But little cous, yo, he didn’t have the nerve
And I got schooled by the #1 perv
Master Beeecham, he schooled my ass
Master Beeecham, he has no class
Master Beeecham, his dick done smell
But he still got it better than Bri and the Family Kell
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LMFAO!!!!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
StevenTyler Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Raiders need some depth and or talent upgrade at lb and cb….and soon would be nice
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Soon would be nice, but Reggie will play his hand as he sees fit.
I like the 1st two moves.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Linebacker Vontaze Burfict supposedly “bombed” at the Pro Day workout before NFL scouts Friday. He could fall far enough to reach Raiders.
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Called it. It’s practically a no brainer. If getting drafted extremely late or getting signed as an UDFA doesn’t motivate you, you don’t belong in the league.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Wasn’t Pryor taken with this year’s 3rd?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Raider fam, who are or who should we be looking at for our linebacker need? Not familiar with the free agents.
Thanks
March 16th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
hawthorne’s twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/D_Hawthorne57
curry and hawthorne chatting back and forth…betchya he’s secretly trying to get him to visit with raiders.
Adam Caplan @caplannfl Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
David Hawthorne could be making a few other visits in the coming days after today’s visit with the Saints.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
SR Raider Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Wasn’t Pryor taken with this year’s 3rd?
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Yes, he was. Barksdale and Taiwan were acquired with this year’s 2nd-rounder.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mark Clemens
Dude, you really need to go get some p_ssy or something.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
If wimbley stays in the afc west….cant wait to see veldheer put him on his cash cow ass!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Called it. It’s practically a no brainer. If getting drafted extremely late or getting signed as an UDFA doesn’t motivate you, you don’t belong in the league.
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If blowing it at the combine with horrible workouts and worse interviews when millions are at stake….and then blowing it again at your pro day.
If THAT doesn’t motivate you, you have NO chance in the NFL.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Wow, I can’t even speak on the crazy mess I just read getting to the bottom of the page. LMAO, you guys are something else.
Anyway, if we picked up Porter and Winston that would be great for me. That may speak volumes to how low my expectations are for us in free agency but I’d definitely be satisfied with those moves.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mark Clemens
Dude, you really need to go get some p_ssy or something.
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I’m asexual.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
promising news…
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Saints cornerback Tracy Porter is visiting the Bengals today, and also talking with the Raiders and Saints.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mark Clemens
Dude, you really need to go get some p_ssy or something.
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I’m asexual.
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TMI.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
GG Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
promising news…
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Saints cornerback Tracy Porter is visiting the Bengals today, and also talking with the Raiders and Saints.
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I wonder how bad Assistant DB Coach Hue is bad-mouthing us?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Duke is not a 2 seed, in my opinion.
They play good defense, but have no interior offensive threat whatsoever. They also have a strange habit of doing boneheaded things sometimes. I like Coach K because he turns out good kids, but this is not one of his better teams.
Pressure the perimeter, play smart on offense and you can beat them.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Called it. It’s practically a no brainer. If getting drafted extremely late or getting signed as an UDFA doesn’t motivate you, you don’t belong in the league.
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If blowing it at the combine with horrible workouts and worse interviews when millions are at stake….and then blowing it again at your pro day.
If THAT doesn’t motivate you, you have NO chance in the NFL.
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Of course, the advantage of taking someone like Burfict in Round 5 or 6 is nobody will care if he gets cut in preseason, and he should know that.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
if raiders end up signing: winston, myers, hawthorne, porter, to go along with bartell and brisiel, it would herald reggie mckenzie’s presence as a GM to fear.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I wonder how bad Assistant DB Coach Hue is bad-mouthing us?
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I hope he’s slamming the heck out of us. It would show a lack of professionalism on his part and could accomplish exactly the opposite of what he intended it to.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
#104…i think Porter would evaluate the Raiders based on Dennis Allen (and McKenzie) rather than whatever the gnome says.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
I’d like to see us get winston. and re-sign carlile as a backup. the guy is durable. with barksdale and cambell also as backups pushing for starting roles, i could see our line working out quite well.
next on the agenda would be our d-line. i got no suggestions here.
tracy porter at CB. and then our secondary is good. re-sign giordano.
for lb’s, go with the draft. maybe bart scott if he’s willing to come on the cheap.
i wouldnt mind leinart at backup qb.
then all that is left is a backup RB. i say go with adai. but then again, taiwan has shown no durability. dmac has shown no durability. and adai’s durability is in question. we need at least one of our backup rb’s to be a invincible like bush was. i think we can go with the draft tho to find what we’re looking for here.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
According to SI.com draft analyst Tony Pauline, Burfict was “not good in position drills” at the Sun Devils’ Friday workout, and Pauline acknowledged that he’s “watering that down.” One scout told Pauline he “actually felt bad for [Burfict].”
Burfict managed only 16 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press. With poor measurables and game tape, and suspect on- and off-the-field character, Burfict may struggle to be drafted at all in April.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Of course, the advantage of taking someone like Burfict in Round 5 or 6 is nobody will care if he gets cut in preseason, and he should know that.
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Sure, I get that.
Why though?
What’s he bring to the table in upside?
He’s not going to run faster…ever.
He can get stronger…obviously
What else?
Attitude?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
I wonder how bad Assistant DB Coach Hue is bad-mouthing us?
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Isn’t he the assistant special team coach?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I wonder how bad Assistant DB Coach Hue is bad-mouthing us?
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I hope he’s slamming the heck out of us. It would show a lack of professionalism on his part and could accomplish exactly the opposite of what he intended it to.
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LOL
True.
Hue is much smarter than that.
He’ll ease his way in.
After the Pedi.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Chiefs fans are getting extremely frustrated that Winston hasn’t signed yet with Chiefs. I so hope he leaves KC and visits Raiders, then signs. Meltdown in KC.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Judging from Burfict’s You Tube highlights, he seems better than our LBs already.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I am really liking the Bartell signing. I did not even realize what a value he was: See below: This is a comparison between Brandon Carr and Bartell on a St. Lois Rams website.
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Cornerbacks — Ron Bartell(notes), St. Louis Rams/Brandon Carr(notes), Kansas City Chiefs
According to STATS, Inc’s data, only five cornerbacks with 50 or more targets had a lower Burn Percentage (completions allowed) than Bartell’s 45% (45 out of an even 100). Those five cornerbacks happened to be Darrelle Revis(notes), Stanford Routt(notes), Antonio Cromartie(notes), Tramon Williams(notes), and …. Brandon Carr.
One of the reasons that the Chiefs were the AFC’s surprise team last year was that their secondary really stepped up. Carr was the forgotten man as everyone started talking about Brandon Flowers(notes) and Eric Berry(notes), but per those numbers (and only sometimes covering the other team’s #1 receiver, it must be said), Carr was the most effective man in that defensive backfield.
Bartell was Mr. Unlucky in one department. Effective as he was against the pass and the run (per FO’s metrics, he was the Rams’ best run-stopping cornerback as well), he didn’t get a single pick in 2010 — just 12 deflected passes. Carr had Bartell beat, there — 24 deflections and just one pick. Moral: When you’re looking at cornerbacks, don’t let interceptions be your ultimate guide when it comes to effectiveness.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Da Trinity Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Happy bout our two free agent signing. Blue collar hard hat wearing players. One with a lot to prove coming off injury, the other play through injuries. Nice.
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I like both of these signings byReggie. AD would have never even look at these kinda guys. We are blessed in 2012 not witnessing FA signings like Larry Brown, Desmond Howard, Javon Walker, Hall, …..
Now we need to sign a tough blue collar run stopping LB to show Rolando McBozLain how to tackle in center field. That guy Needs to be pushed.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
If Burfict wants to run around mindlessly and destroy people, sign him as a UDFA and drop his ass in Kick/Punt coverage.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
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March 16th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
109.GG Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
#104…i think Porter would evaluate the Raiders based on Dennis Allen (and McKenzie) rather than whatever the gnome says.
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I’m not talking about Porter evaluating the Raiders based on what Hue says. I’m talking about him evaluating the Bengals.
I doubt Cincy will even have Jackson in the room, though.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Judging from Burfict’s You Tube highlights, he seems better than our LBs already.
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Oh, got it.
LOL….Mike Mitchell….only slower and weaker and much heavier…got it!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
I would like the Raiders to line up a Meyers visit!
March 16th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
I would like the Raiders to line up a Meyers visit!
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I’m down with any move that improve the roster.
Meyers would.
Reggie needs to find a way to stretch the dollars. lol
March 16th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Doesn’t Burfict know that you’re supposed to stop trying AFTER you sign your contract, lol?
Box ‘o rocks, this young man.
March 16th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Who is this Meyers guy you all keep mentioning?
March 16th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Doesn’t Burfict know that you’re supposed to stop trying AFTER you sign your contract, lol?
Box ‘o rocks, this young man.
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Actions always speak louder than words, and apparently this dude has flamed in both areas.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Who is this Meyers guy you all keep mentioning?
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Offspring of Oscar.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Brisiel is a good hire.
Now if Reggie could just get Winston….
March 16th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
One of the ways you can tell if you made a good signing is to see how the losing team reacts:
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db11 6:54 PM on March 16, 2012
Rick Smith had a full year to prepare for this off season (as did every other GM). The salary cap issues required that he develop a strategy to maintain our core players. He has failed miserably and should be held accountable. We all knew that Mario would probably leave. But to allow 2 or 3 members of your most consistant unit (Offensive line) to leave is inexcusable. Rick Smith either undervalued the importance of what was arguably the best O line in football or he misjudged the final cap numbers. THAT IS HIS JOB. The Texans and the Chronicle staff will try to spin this in a positive way, but the reality is Rick Smith should be fired for incompetence.
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TexanSeal 6:52 PM on March 16, 2012
This has to be the biggest train reck of FA ever! Other teams are laughing at us! As they should!
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DeportThem2009e 6:49 PM on March 16, 2012
It’s going to be hard for Foster to run if the right side of the line is gone along with his blocking FB…
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This is in response to the Baisel signing. They are not happy down in Houston right now! Compare that to when Routt signed away…
March 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Brisiel is a good hire.
Now if Reggie could just get Winston….
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Ideal because it jump starts chemistry on the right side.
Plus of course, the guy is highly regarded.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Can ya’ll imagine our O-Line if we signed Meyers& Winston?????????????????????
LT-Veldheer
LG- Wiz
C-Meyers
RG-Breisel
RT- Winston
with Heyer,Cambpell, Satele, Hurd, Barksdale, Parsons backing up…pretty solid O-Line if u ask me.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Chris Meyers – FA Center Texans (I believe he played in the Pro Bowl this year…. He would cost more but I think this is a need since we lost Satele.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Michigan getting punked by the OTHER Ohio state university.
Raider O must be at least sort of happy about that.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Raiderboi18 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Can ya’ll imagine our O-Line if we signed Meyers& Winston?????????????????????
LT-Veldheer
LG- Wiz
C-Meyers
RG-Breisel
RT- Winston
with Heyer,Cambpell, Satele, Hurd, Barksdale, Parsons backing up…pretty solid O-Line if u ask me.
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We can surmise that if Knapp and Parsons have their way, Meyers and Winston are on the Raiders this season.
Probably not likely, but you never know.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Michigan getting punked by the OTHER Ohio state university.
Raider O must be at least sort of happy about that.
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ANY time Michigan gets punked, Raider O is happy. lol
March 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I would think Meyers more of a priority because Winston was a LT and will demand LT money and we already have a LT. Meyers and Breisel played next to each other for our current OL coach last year. That would be wild if we could get him.
Although signing Satele and then trying to develop a Center from the Draft may work too. I believe Meyers was a 5th round pick and Collins C for GB and a FA was a 6th round pick.
I am liking that Rogers Cromartie for Kelly trade if Philly would go for it. That someone suggested.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
#121…ah okay, gotcha. I have high hopes for Porter to Raiders due to D.Allen connection, and im sure players around the NFL are now re-viewing the Raiders as a choice destination with McKenzie as GM.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Lots of people seemed to think that the center would be little Wiz.
He played well there but most of his experience is as guard.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Winston was RT
March 16th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Raiderboi18 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Can ya’ll imagine our O-Line if we signed Meyers& Winston?????????????????????
LT-Veldheer
LG- Wiz
C-Meyers
RG-Breisel
RT- Winston
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In baseball its all about the pitching.
For me, in football its all about the OL.
And that’s not a bad one.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
140.GG Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Winston was RT
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Correct.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Raiderboi18 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Can ya’ll imagine our O-Line if we signed Meyers& Winston?????????????????????
LT-Veldheer
LG- Wiz
C-Meyers
RG-Breisel
RT- Winston
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In baseball its all about the pitching.
For me, in football its all about the OL.
And that’s not a bad one.
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Agree 100%
March 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Brisiel contract bigger than Carlisle’s was. It wasnt a cap decision, it was a bring in my guy decision. Not just McKenzie though since Pollack and Knapp were likely the ones pushing to get him.
I just hope Brisiel stays healthy. Should help McFadden.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
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March 16th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Mark Clemens, it’s scary how far some fans take it today. I think a lot of sports fans are gang rejects, trying to live out their gang banger fantasy in the realm of sports fanaticism. Ruining it for everyone.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
How you doing Len?
Things are looking up.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
MR you should stop hiding behind so many stupid names.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
EnglandRaider, you should stop hiding behind such stupid comments!
March 16th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
that guy slamming cartwright is an embarrassment to RN and human beings.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Your wit is underwhelming.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Uglyorc Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Brisiel contract bigger than Carlisle’s was. It wasnt a cap decision, it was a bring in my guy decision. Not just McKenzie though since Pollack and Knapp were likely the ones pushing to get him.
I just hope Brisiel stays healthy. Should help McFadden.
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In an earlier post I mentioned “Parsons”, should have been Pollack..lol
Saw a photo of Brisiel, dude is built “SOLID”.
I don’t expect he’ll get pushed back 5 yards when Carson is trying to chuck it down field, or get McFadden blown up in the backfield.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Vontaze Burfict bombed his pro day. He will likely fall, do you think the Raiders use a 5th on him?
March 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
@ EnglandRaider….Now only if we can pull it off, im believe Reggie can pull this off….What a great day it’ll be in Raider Nation!!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Arguably our team is better now that it was at the start of last year. Upgrade in the secondary, better QB, better Offensive line.
The only weak area maybe be LB, but Curry may equal Wimbley value-wise.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
How you doing Len?
Things are looking up.
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Good.
Chasing money all the time.
People,(Companies) are slooow to pay, but I understand the dynamics.
Still eating that “plow mans’? lunch.? lol
Sounded good to me when you described it.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Any team that drafts solely on pro day performances deserve to lose. What kind of a scout watches a guy prove himself to be a football player in games, then discounts him because he knocked over some cone in a workout?
March 16th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
153.devilr8er Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Vontaze Burfict bombed his pro day. He will likely fall, do you think the Raiders use a 5th on him?
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Nope. If he can’t even be bothered to prepare for the combine and his own pro day, then why would anyone think he’d take the time and make the effort to be a professional?
Undisciplined as a player, and a demonstrated poor work ethic. Somebody might grab him late, but I doubt it’ll be Reggie that does it.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Brisiel having a good time:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WtdXDEP9fck/S0FhepfudbI/AAAAAAAAA4k/YHct6RPze18/s1600/Mike+Brisiel+OL+Houston.jpg
March 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Glad to hear it Len.
That’s a ploughman’s lunch.
A good lunch. Good for the body and good for the spirit-especially if you have some spirit.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
LOL, I’ve never seen John Clayton from the side.
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2011/12/8a5db88e54da5a056eb5ac7bba110046.jpg
March 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
If we hit the lotto with Mcfadden’s health, Division is ours for the taking, so far…
March 16th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
153.devilr8er Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Vontaze Burfict bombed his pro day. He will likely fall, do you think the Raiders use a 5th on him?
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Nope. If he can’t even be bothered to prepare for the combine and his own pro day, then why would anyone think he’d take the time and make the effort to be a professional?
Undisciplined as a player, and a demonstrated poor work ethic. Somebody might grab him late, but I doubt it’ll be Reggie that does it.
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I agree. But I’m not an expert.
IF Reggie were to draft this guy, or sign him as an UDFA, I’d expect that HE see’s something that my amateur eyes don’t.
If I were to bet…Reggie doesn’t touch him with a 10 ft pole.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Any team that drafts solely on pro day performances deserve to lose. What kind of a scout watches a guy prove himself to be a football player in games, then discounts him because he knocked over some cone in a workout
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Tell that to san Fran when Vernon Davis shot up the draft board after his Pro Day.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
159.Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Brisiel having a good time:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WtdXDEP9fck/S0FhepfudbI/AAAAAAAAA4k/YHct6RPze18/s1600/Mike+Brisiel+OL+Houston.jpg
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LOL.
Looks like Snake would approve of the new lineman.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Myers is going back to Houston, per Twitter.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Players still out there that I’d like Reggie to sign:
LB Joe Mays
CB Aaron Ross
SS Melvin Bullitt
SS/CB Reggie Smith
C Chris Meyers
RT Demetrius Bell or Eric Winston
LB Leroy Hill
LB David Hawthorne….any of these people will make us better on game day!!!! Go Raiders!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
lol. That’s weird. Clayton looks like such a nerd on camera. In that picture he looks like he could have been a linebacker. deadspin’s awesome.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Watching Duke v. Lehigh, and saw a sign in the crowd that said “We Are Ridiculous-Lehigh!”
Lol
March 16th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Glad to hear it Len.
That’s a ploughman’s lunch.
A good lunch. Good for the body and good for the spirit-especially if you have some spirit.
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Ploughmans…got it.
I’ve got spirit but lack pom poms and a uniform…lol
March 16th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Great week in Raider Nation;
Mr. Mckenzie you have been a professional with the wisdom of Solomon.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Devil, thanks for the anecdotal evidence to the contrary. I don’t care about Vernon Davis. Any GM that discounts someone who’s proven himself to be a football player in games because of a fraction of a second on some sprint or because he tripped over a rope is an idiot.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Reggie Mac picking up players, is taking the Al Davis approach…
To signing coaches
March 16th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Call me old school, but I think the combine and pro day are retarded. Any scout that can’t spot a football player by watching him play in games doesn’t deserve the job.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
excellent signing, welcome to Raider Nation Brisiel & Bartell.
Raiders OLine;
Vehldeer Wisniewski [center] Brisiel [right tackle]
March 16th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
The only Al Davis approach Reggie has taken so far is showing up to the building.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Myers back with Houston at 4 years for 25 million.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I say we move Wiz to center & go find another LG. They could resign Heyer or they could also try Barksdale or BCampell at OLG. It’s easier finding a guard than a center. If Satele is resigned it should be as a BU-C only and at league minimum. We’ve also got a few other OL on our taxi squad but I don’t know much about any of them.
BTW, another important thought, who is our back-up OLT, just in case? To me, that’s a concern.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Vehldeer [left guard] Wisniewski Brisiel [right tackle]
or
Vehldeer Wisniewski Brisiel [right guard] [right tackle]
March 16th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Not sure what to think so far.
I’m happy that Reggie hasn’t totally blown up the roster, as was quite possible after Hue’s firing. Carson Palmer, TK, Seymour, Huff, Branch, Curry, Lechler, Seabass, Bryant and McFadden are all back, plus of course the young talented and inexpensive guys like Ford, Moore, Veldheer, Wiz II who were never really under consideration to go as some in here suggested they should.
Subtractions have been mostly good but overpaid guys like Routt and Kam. Not happy to see them go, but I can understand it. Would’ve liked to have seen Schilens stay, but given that he’d probably be our 4th or 5th WR I can live with it and am happy for him to have a legitimate chance to start for the Jets.
The additions I don’t know all that much about. I hear good things about the two signings today, but both guys are coming off serious injuries and are now making several mil per year.
As always, we’ll have to just wait and see. I had Reggie penciled in for an F after firing Hue and demoting Saunders and canning several position coaches on the offensive side. He may be now up to a C, not for the moves he made, but for the ones he didn’t in keeping the core of the team together and committed to a deep playoff run in 2012.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Chargers resigned Charlie Whitehurst. I really wanted to see him in a Raider uniform. Best facial hair in sports.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
170.RaiderLen Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Glad to hear it Len.
That’s a ploughman’s lunch.
A good lunch. Good for the body and good for the spirit-especially if you have some spirit.
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Ploughmans…got it.
I’ve got spirit but lack pom poms and a uniform…lol
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Well, I was thinking more along the lines of the spirit you get out of a bottle of Haig ‘n’ Haig.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
My hope is that Wisniewski, becomes our center for a decade;
I would okay with the Raiders resigning either satele or Carlisli as back ups.
Barksdale, Campbell, Heyer, Parsons, rookie fradted or ufda competing for RT & LG would be great for the Raiders as well.
Offense will be even better in 2012.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Best wishes for Chaz in NYC, I hope that he is injury free finally…..big year for Louis Murphy ahead.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Not too much to get excited about. Yawn… Over the hill expendable DB and an overpaid OL. Oh well we’ll see in 2-3 years what Reggie is made of. Probably have a new head coach by then.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Hey moderator!
I was just retweeting Cork!
And you ban a Cork retweet!
LMFAO!
March 16th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Joker94583 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Not too much to get excited about. Yawn… Over the hill expendable DB and an overpaid OL. Oh well we’ll see in 2-3 years what Reggie is made of. Probably have a new head coach by then.
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March 16th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
174.Sullivan44 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Call me old school, but I think the combine and pro day are retarded. Any scout that can’t spot a football player by watching him play in games doesn’t deserve the job.
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The combine and pro days are used to determine how a player’s talents will measure up in the pro game.
For example, a guy may look fast or quick on tape when playing against college players. He might not, however, be as fast or quick as he looks because he’s playing against guys that don’t have NFL speed, explosiveness and quickness. The drills and so forth give a clearer idea as to his actual speed, quickness and so forth.
The pro days are generally set up to give an idea of how a player will perform while running certain plays that are part of a teams’ system(s). Receivera may be asked to run routes they’ve not run before, QBs may have to make throws they’ve not made regularly, etc.
Nobody makes a decision completely based on those things, but they are a valuable part of the evaluation process.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
My hope is that Wisniewski, becomes our center for a decade;
I would okay with the Raiders resigning either satele or Carlisli as back ups.
Barksdale, Campbell, Heyer, Parsons, rookie fradted or ufda competing for RT & LG would be great for the Raiders as well.
Offense will be even better in 2012.
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Why do people keep trying to make one of the better LG’s in the NFL a Center???? Otherwise OK with what you are saying would rather bring in some people to compete for Center.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Glad we got someone like Bartell, I was getting tired of out 5 foot something midget CornerBacks trying to cover these huge Wrs like Bowe.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Good job Steve. Informative. Happy with the signings if these guys cleared medical and can contribute.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Chas Malloy Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Best wishes for Chaz in NYC, I hope that he is injury free finally…..big year for Louis Murphy ahead.
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I have this gut feeling that Louis Murphy has a breakout year. Not sure how it happens since he’s behind Moore, DHB and Ford on the depth chart, but I just think he’ll surprise. He was our best receiver in 2009 and 2010. Was hurt most of last season and was never right. But toward the end he seemed to get better and better each week. Has the physical tools. Coming close to a contract year.
Not saying he’ll be anywhere close to 1,000 yards, but I think he’ll make some positive contributions.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Very cool RM. We got 2 starters and Briesel got some major toughness in him. So happy the old AD ways are over and done with.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
No?
OK. I can take a hint.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Briesel came back and played with a cracked fibula to help the Texans clinch the playoff spot. That is a man’s man. WE need more guys like him. I’m happy we stopped the prima donna days in Oak.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Center position is more important than guard
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
raidertalk Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Glad we got someone like Bartell, I was getting tired of out 5 foot something midget CornerBacks trying to cover these huge Wrs like Bowe.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Nnamdi, Routt, CJ37, Chekwa and DVD all 6′ or taller?
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Teach, I simply disagree. Call me old school. Call me stubborn. But I am convinced there are scouts in this game that can tell if a college player is NFL caliber, simply by watching him play, and that they don’t need to view combines or fancy workout drills. And I have a gut feeling these scouts are on teams like NYG and GB.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
189.1960AutumnWind Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
My hope is that Wisniewski, becomes our center for a decade;
I would okay with the Raiders resigning either satele or Carlisli as back ups.
Barksdale, Campbell, Heyer, Parsons, rookie fradted or ufda competing for RT & LG would be great for the Raiders as well.
Offense will be even better in 2012.
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Why do people keep trying to make one of the better LG’s in the NFL a Center???? Otherwise OK with what you are saying would rather bring in some people to compete for Center.
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I’m kind of with you on that one.
He’s played well there but all of the experience of little Wiz is at guard.
I guess you try and make a LG into a center when you don’t have a center.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Center position is more important than guard
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If that is true bring in Meyers and be done with it… But I saw and others have commented is that Wiz did not play center that well (maybe not as well as Satele) and he played near pro bowl level at guard.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Just checked. All those dudes are at least 6′1″.
March 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
195.aig-raiders Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Briesel came back and played with a cracked fibula to help the Texans clinch the playoff spot. That is a man’s man. WE need more guys like him. I’m happy we stopped the prima donna days in Oak.
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Briesel is a hard man for sure.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Schillens to the Jets, ha good luck to Chaz, hope he doesn’t breakdown like he did here,
he and Sanjay must be besties ,
March 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
198.Sullivan44 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Teach, I simply disagree. Call me old school. Call me stubborn. But I am convinced there are scouts in this game that can tell if a college player is NFL caliber, simply by watching him play, and that they don’t need to view combines or fancy workout drills. And I have a gut feeling these scouts are on teams like NYG and GB.
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I understand where you’re coming from, Sully. Those guys do make decisions on who they think can play and who can’t by watching tape and games in person. The next step in the process is to make sure that what they’re seeing translates to the NFL and part of that is seeing whether or not they meet generally accepted parameters for speed, quickness and explosiveness.
For example, a guy may get to the ballcarrier enough to make you take notice and think that he could play linebacker for you. However, getting past an NFL line to do it and tackling a guy like Ray Rice is going to take more quickness and explosiveness than beating a college line and tackling a guy that’s going to grad school when he’s done playing.
You’re making a significant investment in this guy. You’re going to want to know if he can get there in a certain amount of time, or if he’s going to be a split second late.
Hope that makes some kind of sense.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Chaz may go down as one of the funniest names is raider history!
March 16th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Is TJ under contract this year?
March 16th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Pretty sure T J is a Ufa
March 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Lehigh, you’re in the lead and in the bonus. Seriously. You don’t have to shoot 3’s.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Thanks Roch
Just trying to figure out the WR situation.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Meyers stays with Texans damn would have been a nice pick up but if we can get ross or porter and winston woooo watch out AFC west
March 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Roch R Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Chaz may go down as one of the funniest names is raider history!
Chaz is the misunderstood inserted z in Chas.,the short form of Charles….being an Irishman not too many Irish men called chuck
Happy St. Patrick’s Day to the new improved Raider nation
especially my tailgating friends from Hayward ..John, Nick and Justin
March 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Teach, I still drink Budweiser. You understand.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
212.Sullivan44 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Teach, I still drink Budweiser. You understand.
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Lol, yes I do.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Oh boy. You guys watching this? Could be Choke Blue Devils.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Two 15 seeds winning in the same day would be wild. I think one of the talking heads said it’s only happened four times PERIOD, and the last time was 10 years ago.
Madness.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Wow great games, Michigan going down to the wire and Lehigh hoping for the upset.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Didn’t 0bama have Lehigh on his bracket? lol.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Adam Caplan @caplannfl
Chargers announced Billy Volek has been released. There you go.
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Raiders’ backup?
March 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
^ Hell no i’d rather take vince young
March 16th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Raiderboi18 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
^ Hell no i’d rather take vince young
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I’d rather have a strong, reliable veteran presence. Someone who knows his role and can fill in when necessary.
Vince Young wants to go somewhere he can compete, so he’ll be more expensive. His attitude has always been an issue. He didn’t look good last season, either.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
174.Sullivan44 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Any scout that can’t spot a football player by watching him play in games doesn’t deserve the job.
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I have said this dozens of times on this blog: the difference between college football and pro football is like the difference between pro football and beer league softball. They are completely different games. Height/weight, speed, agility tests can give solid indications if a player has the overall physical abilities to compete at this level. Of course nothing can measure heart.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Ron Wolf and Fred Belitnikoff both disagree with you, Seymour. For what it’s worth. Wolf took part in building 4 Super Bowl winners, one as recent as 1996. Some of what the Packers are today can be attributed to Wolf, as he hired most of the front office. Freddy B said on the radio once that he hates the logistics of the game today. Said a real football guy can spot a football player from a mile away. I believe him.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
raidertalk Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Glad we got someone like Bartell, I was getting tired of out 5 foot something midget CornerBacks trying to cover these huge Wrs like Bowe.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Nnamdi, Routt, CJ37, Chekwa and DVD all 6′ or taller?
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Correct. So are the safeties, Huff and Mitchell. Hiram Eugene clocked in at 6′2″. That was an Al thing. He wanted big, fluid corners.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
holy he11 i agree with sully !!!
March 16th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
DEFENSIVE FREE AGENTS STILL AVAILABLE BASED ON OUR NEEDS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE GUYS:
CB:
Aaron Ross(Giants)
Tracy Porter(Saints)
Jarrett Bush(Packers)
OLB/DE
Aaron Maybin(Jets)
OLB
Manny Lawson(Bengels)
DE
John Abraham(Falcons)
Mark Anderson(Patriots)
MLB
Curtis Lofton(Falcons)
NT
Antonio Garay(Chargers)
Aubrayo Franklin(Saints)
DT
Jason Jones(Titans)
March 16th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
It’s not heart. It’s a combination of heart and toughness. It’s a tenacity. It’s not a matter of being a football player. It’s a matter of willing to be a football player. Some people are just too athletic and too smart for the game. It takes the perfect combination of intelligence and stupidity, dominant physique and awkward physique. Have you ever had a conversation with a former NFL player? Most of them are just goofballs. They’re not like baseball and basketball players, all sophisticated and calculated. Football players are misfits. And a lot of people who made it to the NFL by having attributes on paper and fancy stats at combines get their heads smashed in by these misfits. BTW, read that again and cue sound to autumn wind. Reads much better that way.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Aaron Maybin ??
March 16th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Ron Wolf and Fred Belitnikoff both disagree with you, Seymour.
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We are talking apples and oranges. I don’t think they would disagree with me. It’s not that you can’t spot players, you can, it’s just the games are completely different. There is no denying that. If that wasn’t true, the Heisman winner would be a lock in the pro’s. Maybe Ron Wolf and Freddy B might disagree, but Eric Couch, Chris Weinke, Charlie Ward, Danny Weurfel, Ty Detmer, Jason White, Andre Ware and Gino Toretta would probably agree with me.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Jets’ team leader in sacks
March 16th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
sully?? is that you ?? what the hell happen to you ??
are you drinking ?? smoking ?? or am i high as a kite.. you make a lot of sense tonight. maybe i got you all wrong.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Do you guys have the same photo as I do on the blog? Is that guy standing over TeBlow mocking him with a Heisman pose? Didn’t we get our arse beat that game> Idiots.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Seymour, the Heisman trophy winner is chosen by journalists, not NFL scouts. If NFL scouts chose the Heisman winner, believe me, it would be the ugliest strong side linebacker, year after year.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Do you guys have the same photo as I do on the blog? Is that guy standing over TeBlow mocking him with a Heisman pose? Didn’t we get our arse beat that game> Idiots.
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I think that was the “Teblow sucks, Teblow Sucks” chant game.
March 16th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Winston Cancels visit to Rams……hmmmm wonder what’s going on???
March 16th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Seymour, the Heisman trophy winner is chosen by journalists, not NFL scouts. If NFL scouts chose the Heisman winner, believe me, it would be the ugliest strong side linebacker, year after year.
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Actually all the prior Heisman winners have a vote as well.
March 16th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Actually all the prior Heisman winners have a vote as well.
If they are alive, I guess I should add…
March 16th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
234.Raiderboi18 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Winston Cancels visit to Rams……hmmmm wonder what’s going on???
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FKN Chiefs might nab him.
March 16th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Winston Cancels visit to Rams……hmmmm wonder what’s going on???
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get the check book Reggie, we can use this guy !!
March 16th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Glass Schillens is finally gone huh? Good job Reggie…way to clear your plate of dead weight.
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He played 14 games last season.
I don’t understand cheering losing talented players.
Especially since the only knock on him is getting hurt.
I wish him well… and will be cheering for him!
March 16th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
“When Mr. Davis passed, you knew there were going to be some shakeups. I think it’s time now to get this thing going and start building, and if we can get that done, it would be an incredible, incredible deal.”
—Former Raiders wide receiver Tim Brown on general manager Reggie McKenzie.
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in Reggie i trust !!!
get it done SIR !!
March 16th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Aaron Maybin ??
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The Bills wouldn’t even let Maybin play on special teams his lst couple of years. That ain’t good.
March 16th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
??could be another Curry?? or solid back up if the price is right.
March 16th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
CANT HAVE ENUFF DEPTH ON O-LINE..
March 16th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
dirt lot.. good to see you sir !!
are you here late or am i ?? lol lol
March 16th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Agreed, we need depth! Last year showed why…
March 16th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
R8ER MIKE,WHAT THE HELL TIME IS IT?GOOD DAY 2 U..
March 16th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Is NY working on keeping Aaron Ross or is he good as gone…?
March 16th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Matt Girodano
Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
Lito Sheppard #21 DB
Oakland Raiders | Official Team Site
Height: 5-10 Weight: 194 Age: 30
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I guess its the secondary as a whole that seemed pretty smallish, but damn seeing Rivers complete a pass over some of our guys made em look really small.
March 16th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
raidertalk Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Glad we got someone like Bartell, I was getting tired of out 5 foot something midget CornerBacks trying to cover these huge Wrs like Bowe.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Nnamdi, Routt, CJ37, Chekwa and DVD all 6′ or taller?
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Correct. So are the safeties, Huff and Mitchell. Hiram Eugene clocked in at 6′2″. That was an Al thing. He wanted big, fluid corners.
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See post 248
March 16th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
“I’m looking forward to stabilizing the position for Oakland and showing everybody how effective I can be when I’m healthy,” Bartell said.
I hope so!
March 16th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
its 10;48 here .. pm….. must be me i am part of the am crew !! lol lol
March 16th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
LOL, Mike…so am I…popped on here for some news!
March 16th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Matthew Zeiser @MGZeiser Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Football season is coming. @Parsons65 The best center in the NFL… Follow him if you are in the know! Don’t be late to the party
Retweeted by Alex Parsons
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According to this guy, we already have our center.
March 16th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
THE HOURS/DAYS/WEEKS ROLL BY FASTER & FASTER ANYMORE..GETTING YOUNGER & BETTER LOOKING EVERY DAY.U BELIEVE ME DONT U ?
March 16th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
yeah me too . gotta keep up with the team ya know !!
plus the ole lady is asleep the boy and his girlfriend are in his room and i have been partaking in some refreshments !! life is good !!
March 16th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Of course we do Dirt Lot…as we all are bro! Tired of getting old…
March 16th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
hell yeah i believe ya dirt lot, but then again i have been smoking and drinking !! lol lol lol
March 16th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Refreshments will start soon…just came back form Costco with a lot of beers! Let the weekend begin!
Mark, Alex Parsons, huh? Hmmm…
March 16th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Just heard about the signings… AWESOME solid pickups at great value… Reggie’s da man!!
Now sign Heyer and possibly Winston and the OL looks like this:
Veldheer-Heyer-Wiz-Brisiel-Winston
Now thats a starting line!!
Next bring in Porter/Ross, Lawson, Bunkley & Tolbert…
Then it’s ‘look out AFC West’!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
WERE U LIVE R8ER MIKE ?
March 16th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I’m glad we dont have $$$ to burn this year. Even if they did, I doubt Reggie would blow his wad on high priced players.
Build it methodically and quite.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Well, Parsons is on the Raiders follow list!
March 16th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
i am in BEAUTIFUL SOUTHERN MARYLAND !!
kinda between redskin and raven territory
March 16th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Parsons played RG at USC.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
SEEN A GAME IN OLD WAR MEMORIAL STADIUM AS CHILD.ONLY TIME I WAS EVER IN YOUR STATE.DONT REMEMBER MUCH,SORRY 2 SAY.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
but i bleed black and silver and i have the tattoos to prove it !! lol lol.. born in western maryland, steeler country, in a town about 4 miles from…. are you ready for this… OAKLAND MARYLAND … no $hit.. family loves pittsburg. me i cant stand em. love me some oakland !!
March 16th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
LOL, Ok I’m out of it..Parsons was on our practice squad since 2010?
March 16th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
lol lol dirt lot .. not much to here to remember !! lol lol
March 16th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
War Memorial ?? you must be near my age !!
March 16th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Buh bye Schilens! Don’t pull a hammy walking out of the facility. Good luck in NY with Sanjay and Santonio!
March 16th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
BORN SAME YEAR AS THE OAKLAND RAIDERS,1960.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
ya got me by 3. lol lol
March 16th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
joined the nation when i was old enough to know what football was !! 1968
March 16th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
lol lol mom shopped sear and robuck catalog for school cloths , i have pic of my in kindergarten wearing raider swag !!!
March 16th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Code black ….
March 16th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Dang Dirt lot, no wonder you use caps lock. You can’t see sht at that age!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Been a serious Raider fan since 1986. I do remember watching Super Bowl XVIII.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Been Raiders fan since 2000 one year after migrating here from India…Code Black
March 16th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Remember staying up all night n day waitin for superbowl 2002
March 16th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Code black x2
March 16th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Why do people keep trying to make one of the better LG’s in the NFL a Center???? Otherwise OK with what you are saying would rather bring in some people to compete for Center.
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He might be one of the best centers? Its kinda like a shooting guard that plays a little point guard and does well… you wonder how well he would do if he did it all the time…
March 16th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
If Going to a 3-4 Mays, and Mcclain would be good fits at Lb’s.
Mays has a relationship with DA.
Not sure what the cost would be however, it would upgrade our LB core….
March 16th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
CBx3
March 16th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
That is Jameel Mcclain…
March 16th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Remember staying up all night n day waitin for superbowl 2002
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I had to work that Sunday, got home in time for the 2nd half. Almost called in sick Monday.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
People HAPPY to see Chaz gone… great. See ya…
March 16th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
CBx4
March 16th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Remember staying up all night n day waitin for superbowl 2002
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I had to work that Sunday, got home in time for the 2nd half. Almost called in sick Monday.
—– thought we were on our way to Lombardi #4 after Woodson picked up the pass on the first drive
March 16th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
# kokomo Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Still need another starting CB (porter), OL, Backup QB and at least two LBs.. This is a good start.
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We need another vet OLB…Tulloch would be a great pickup for this team and we need another CB and either a Center possibly. I would like to see a NT signed like Franklin. However, draft is deep at the DLine spots and McK makes his money finding good contributors in the middle rounds of drafts.
It looks Barksdale is going to given every chance to earn the starting RT spot.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
# Rekleiner Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
DEFENSIVE FREE AGENTS STILL AVAILABLE BASED ON OUR NEEDS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE GUYS:
CB:
Aaron Ross(Giants)
Tracy Porter(Saints)
Jarrett Bush(Packers)
OLB/DE
Aaron Maybin(Jets)
OLB
Manny Lawson(Bengels)
DE
John Abraham(Falcons)
Mark Anderson(Patriots)
MLB
Curtis Lofton(Falcons)
NT
Antonio Garay(Chargers)
Aubrayo Franklin(Saints)
DT
Jason Jones(Titans)
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Jason Jones or Franklin would be good pickups at DT/NT
Porter or Bush at the CB spot would be good also.
OLB Tulloch already signed with a team?
March 16th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Code black
March 16th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I wish the Raiders had some way to pick up OLB McClellin from Boise St..
Oh well, next year hopefully the Raiders will be in a better position.
March 16th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Code Black ! Indeed! With flashing lights an blaring sirens!
BTW McF 20 – where in India are u from? Spent some time travelling there in 2001- was in Kerala, Rajisthan and Varanasi. Amazing country! Cool Folks!
March 16th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Can we get a few Lbs n a Pass rusher is there any good pass rusher available that will come cheap
March 16th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
wonder when the raiders will wake up
March 16th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Arkraider Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Code Black ! Indeed! With flashing lights an blaring sirens!
BTW McF 20 – where in India are u from? Spent some time travelling there in 2001- was in Kerala, Rajisthan and Varanasi. Amazing country! Cool Folks!
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I’m from state of Punjab in India
March 16th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
# Rekleiner Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
DEFENSIVE FREE AGENTS STILL AVAILABLE BASED ON OUR NEEDS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE GUYS:
CB:
Aaron Ross(Giants)
Tracy Porter(Saints)
Jarrett Bush(Packers)
OLB/DE
Aaron Maybin(Jets)
OLB
Manny Lawson(Bengels)
DE
John Abraham(Falcons)
Mark Anderson(Patriots)
MLB
Curtis Lofton(Falcons)
NT
Antonio Garay(Chargers)
Aubrayo Franklin(Saints)
DT
Jason Jones(Titans)
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Jason Jones or Franklin would be good pickups at DT/NT
Porter or Bush at the CB spot would be good also.
OLB Tulloch already signed with a team?
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thought tulloch was a middle linebacker. does he play the outside well too?
March 16th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I didn’t sleep the night before the 02 AFC cham. game vs. Titans. I remember just crashing on my couch when the Raiders were receiving the Lamar Hunt trophy, doing their interviews on the field with Nantz or whoever. Romo yelling “Raiiiiders, Raaaaaiders”. I was gone. I remember waking up at like 3am and the first thing that was on t.v was a local news station doing highlights, with the subtitle, “Raiders going to SuperBowl”. It wasn’t a dream. It was real. Wish the following week was just a nightmare though.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Wouldnt mind bringing Gallery back for cheap. He’s worth the risk and move Wiz to Center. It’ll help with the lack of draft picks this year.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
jo bole so nihal sat sri akal
No disrespect intended Mcfadden 20,
My friends at the corner store taught me that.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Wouldnt mind bringing Gallery back for cheap. He’s worth the risk and move Wiz to Center. It’ll help with the lack of draft picks this year
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No way, come on AIG, you know better than that.
Your diggin deep now.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Looks like Pryor is the #2 QB afterall.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Has Gallery shaken the injury bug?
Would he swallow his pride and come back?
March 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
jo bole so nihal sat sri akal
No disrespect intended Mcfadden 20,
My friends at the corner store taught me that.
—- CODE BLACK
March 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
I don’t mind bringing Gallery back, but it has to be at the right price. Injuries are still a concern with that guy. He has not played a full season in 3 years.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Whenever I would try to focus on Gallery…he was going in the wrong direction. When he actually played.
Seahawks and his own boy Cable cut him for a reason.
No to Rob.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Code Black with Sirens & Flashing Lights!
March 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Yeah, I’d rather have Heyer at LG. Might not be a system fit though.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
We need to sign Tracy Porter.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Joker94583 Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Not too much to get excited about. Yawn… Over the hill expendable DB and an overpaid OL. Oh well we’ll see in 2-3 years what Reggie is made of. Probably have a new head coach by then.
Joker,if you don’t want to get excited fine but Reggie Mac’s just getting started and I think Brisiel is solid and Bartel EXCITING…obviously a gamble at 30yo and 2 cracked neck vertebrae last year but this guy could ball before he got hurt and signed for less than half what he was previously paid before injury, in 1 year incentive contract (up to 3 million). Before injury, Bartell could match up with almost any receiver and deliver some lights out hits. I’m sure you could still find some NFL.com highlight videos of him causing fumbles. Coming of serious injury, a roll of the dice but I LOVE IT
We still need more CB and Allen knows Porter and what he’s worth. I don’t think Reggie will get into a bidding war, it depends how much he wants. I’m sure a lot more than Bartell signed for. Allen also knows FA LB Woodyard and what he’s worth. If we don’t sign these guys they were probably asking for too much. Have heard that Denver doesn’t want LB Joe Mays back, so he probably didn’t impress Allen. With the need for starter and depth at LB, we’re sure to do something before September. Probably will also get some who will boost our ST coverage
Obviously still need LB more but I hope we at least talk to RT Winston. Bookend Tackle key to solid line play, but these guys ain’t cheap — without many top tackles available, it’s a seller’s market. But Winston is a proven zone blocker and rock solid tackles rarely hit the market and Winston, a 5 year starter, looks like the real deal.
From PFW on why Texans let him go despite having two other starting OL on FA market:
[Texans prioritize signing of FA center Myers] “more than their former right tackle [Winston]. Although Myers is three years older than Winston, the source said the Texans believe OT Rashad Butler, a six-year veteran who will step into Winston’s spot in the starting lineup, is less of a drop-off from Winston than ORG Mike Brisiel, also an unrestricted free agent who could move on, would be in replacing Myers. Butler spent last season on injured reserve with a torn triceps, but played well enough in four starts in 2010 in place of OLT Duane Brown, who was suspended, to warrant the move.”
In fact the Texans did re-sign center Myers today. Brisiel apparently can play center but his better position is guard.
I would hope Knapp, Brisiel, Reggie Mac & Raiders would at least talk to Winston and find out how much $ he wants.
It will be interesting to see how Joe Barksdale works out in a zone blocking scheme.
I know many of you don’t agree but I think Khalif Barnes gave us a pretty good year at RT. Keeping him motivated and his head in the game may always be an issue, but the tackle market is pretty thin, so he may be back whether y’all like it or not. He was signed by Cable when we ran a ZBS and he can do the job if he wants to.
Last year our OL had low sacks & good run blocking but high penalties. Not bad. I think a key was bringing a lot of decent players in to compete best start worst cut.
Stephon Heyer didn’t fit ZBS according to Redskins.
Satele fine for ZBS and a lot of the FA centers signed today so the market is getting thinner. If Wiz stays at left guard I wouldn’t mind having Satele back apparently Raiders not interested (as of yesterday at least)
keep an eye on 2x practice squadder Alex Parsons, he fits ZBS well, plays both guard spots, and was being tried at C at the end of preseason 2011, and looks like he could compete for a roster spot. He seems to think he’s ready for Pro Bowl at center. I’ll resereve judgement till the end of next season—or the end of next training camp, whichever comes last for him as a Raider.
Since backup OL can’t help your kick coverage ST you can’t keep projects on the roster forever. You CAN have too much depth. Need to make a decision not keep ‘em all. Now or never time for Bruce Campbell.
Much easier to find decent starting OG at reasonable price than OT & C because it’s less important position, easier to play. In general for OL, proven ZBS guys on market in lower quantity but also in lower demand than the power road grader guys. But since most teams like to carry few extra OL, prefer guys they know are a good fit
Gallery is 32 yo with long history of assorted injuries at his best we was good at LG but he has been hurt every year, often plays hurt but less effectively, and misses about 5 games a year. The odds of an OL player at his age with his injury history working out are not good. Can’t rule out bringing him back, at ~vet min, but hope we can do better
I think Reggie Mac is looking for value signings. A lot of the suggestions sound pricey. I have heard that Tulloch and Lofton want $$$ much more than their old teams wanted to spend
September is a long way off. Draft, udfa, & another wave of cut FA in June. Plenty of time for Reggie Mac. Let those other teams blow their wad on overpriced free agents.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
J,
I thought he was familiar with the ZBS. Didn’t he come from Wash?
March 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Damn. He actually wrote that!
March 16th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Shhhh. I’m still reading.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I think one of the 2nd year guys should be able to lock up one of the corner spots. Especially since we will be playing a lot less man press.
I’d look for the next corner to be a depth guy.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Shhhh. I’m still reading.
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LOL!
March 16th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
If Parsons and McGee can crack the rotation, that would fill a couple of holes.
Between Brisiel, Wiz, and Parsons, looks like our C is already on the roster.
Not buying the theory that moving Wiz to C weakens 2 positions. Wiz is better than Satele.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
What is going to become of the 4th round project Beast Campbell?
March 16th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Shhhh. I’m still reading.
$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
March 16th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
102.GG Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
promising news…
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Saints cornerback Tracy Porter is visiting the Bengals today, and also talking with the Raiders and Saints.
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I betcha Hue is giving him an earful on how terrible it is in Oakland.
March 16th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
J,
I’m not sold on Bartell, and I don’t think we invested a lot in him. That’s why we are still talking to T Porter. I hope we sign him.
Porter, Bartell, Chekwa, and DVD = Improved secondary IMO
March 16th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Are we still talking to him since we signed Bartell?
Pretty sure the idea is for Bartell to start if he is healthy.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I like B Campbell & Barksdale, but I don’t know if they are ready to start. We have 3 solid starters, but we still need C or LG (depends on Wiz) and a RT. If we don’t add any more OL from FA, then I think Campbell will start at RT, and Barksdake at LG.
They can get help from the other OL around them.
LT: Veldheer
LG: Barksdale
C: Wiz
RG: Brisiel
RT: Campbell
March 16th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Do you guys know the terms of Bartell’s deal?
March 16th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Some folks bag on DVD. I thought he did pretty well his rookie year. He could use a few extra pounda because he is not a big hitter, but I think he can develope into a pretty decent CB. We shall see.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Matt Girodano
Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
Lito Sheppard #21 DB
Oakland Raiders | Official Team Site
Height: 5-10 Weight: 194 Age: 30
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I guess its the secondary as a whole that seemed pretty smallish, but damn seeing Rivers complete a pass over some of our guys made em look really small.
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Yeah, but remember we signed those guys after Eugene, CJ, and Nnamdi were gone.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
I thought DVD’s coverage skills were above avg, but he still needs to improve his ball awareness.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
We need two starting CBs. Bartell only makes 1, if his neck holds up. We can ease the young guys in as nickel if we get another proven starter. Huff also in the mix. Remember what Al said, you can never have enough CBs
If Allen doesn’t want to sign his pupil Porter he must want too much $
March 16th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
FA list:
CB: T Porter
OLB/ WLB: Leroy Hill or Wesley Woodyard
DT/ NT: Bunkley or Franklin
RT: E Winston
C: Satele
March 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Ccirding to Walterfootball Bartell got a 1 year deal for $3 million.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
According*
March 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Raiders sign G Mike Brisiel (5 years, $20 million): C- Grade
The Raiders had a need for an interior lineman, and Mike Brisiel is a quality guard. But why overpay for a zone-blocking lineman when you’re cap-strapped? It makes no sense to me. Oh, and there’s also the fact that Brisiel is taking more money to go from a great team to a franchise in disarray. He doesn’t seem too concerned about winning.
Raiders sign CB Ronald Bartell (1 year, $3 million): B+ Grade
I like this Oakland signing much better than the other one. Ronald Bartell is a talented injury risk, but the Raiders aren’t taking much of a chance with this contract. If Bartell hasn’t recovered from his brutal neck injuries, Oakland can just part ways with him.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Prev post was from Walter Football.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Are DVD’s coverage skills good enough that he will not allow any completions? Esp with those ball skills. As a rookie he seemed to have more than a little trouble tackling so he’d better not let anybody catch anything unless Tyvon is back there to save a touchdown.
maybe they got him on a good steroids program this offseason
I don’t think the new strength coach can even meet with the players till April
DVD has a lot of potential lets see what he can do this year hopefully big improvement
March 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
It feels like we finally have competent management.
I look forward to the time we have a first round draft pick.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Is Checkwa going to end up at CB or Safety? Between DVD & Checkwa I think Checkwa has the most potential. Size wise DVD has 1″ more height at 6′1″ but 10# less in bulk than Checkwa at 190#. DVD definitely needs to put on some pounds.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Y dont the Raiders just sign porter to a cap friendly contract, then when the Raiders start free agency next year, sign him to a contract with more incentives…but not a outta whack contract that we’ve been accustom to. What’s the deal with Aaron Ross? Im tellin you guys..he’d be perfect in a Raiders uniform. Gotta sign Joe Mays to push Imsoslow McClain…oh yea sign Melving Bullitt and Reggie smith btw!!!!
March 16th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Code black x5
March 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Manish Mehta @TheJetsStream
Details on Chaz Schilens’ deal from the Jets: 1 year, $765K (with 500K guaranteed), per source. #nyj
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Damn they got Chaz for next to nothing. If he holds up, it’s a steal for them. Surprised the NIners didnt take a chance.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Raider O Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I like B Campbell & Barksdale, but I don’t know if they are ready to start. We have 3 solid starters, but we still need C or LG (depends on Wiz) and a RT. If we don’t add any more OL from FA, then I think Campbell will start at RT, and Barksdake at LG.
They can get help from the other OL around them.
LT: Veldheer
LG: Barksdale
C: Wiz
RG: Brisiel
RT: Campbell
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LT: Veldheer
LG: Wiz
C: Myers
RG: Brisiel
RT: Barks
= 5 of Studs!
March 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
If Gallery can come in cheap, he’s worth the risk. The guy can be a probowler at guard if he ever stays healthy enough for 1 season. I thought he was pretty solid at guard under Cable.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Why not put Curry in the middle and Mclain on the outside?
March 16th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Raider O Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I like B Campbell & Barksdale, but I don’t know if they are ready to start. We have 3 solid starters, but we still need C or LG (depends on Wiz) and a RT. If we don’t add any more OL from FA, then I think Campbell will start at RT, and Barksdake at LG.
They can get help from the other OL around them.
LT: Veldheer
LG: Barksdale
C: Wiz
RG: Brisiel
RT: Campbell
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LT: Veldheer
LG: Wiz
C: Myers
RG: Brisiel
RT: Barks
= 5 of Studs!
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Chris Myers?? He just re-sign with Houston.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Mike Brisiel, G, Texans. Age: 29.
Signed with Raiders (5 years, $20 million)
Mike Brisiel is a solid guard in a zone-blocking scheme. He pass protects well, though penalties are an issue.
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Penalties an “issue”?
Don’t like hearing that.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Raider O Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
from Walter Football:
Raiders sign G Mike Brisiel (5 years, $20 million): C- Grade
The Raiders had a need for an interior lineman, and Mike Brisiel is a quality guard. But why overpay for a zone-blocking lineman when you’re cap-strapped? It makes no sense to me. Oh, and there’s also the fact that Brisiel is taking more money to go from a great team to a franchise in disarray. He doesn’t seem too concerned about winning.
Raiders sign CB Ronald Bartell (1 year, $3 million): B+ Grade
I like this Oakland signing much better than the other one. Ronald Bartell is a talented injury risk, but the Raiders aren’t taking much of a chance with this contract. If Bartell hasn’t recovered from his brutal neck injuries, Oakland can just part ways with him.
Thanks for info Raider O. One thing: I trust Reggie Mac et al will have RAIDERS OUT OF DISARRAY VERY SOON, long before September rolls around.
2. I wonder if Brisiel price a tad high for same reasons and spending that much on an OG but Knapp should know the value of what he’s getting. Their take on supply /demand market for ZBS linemen probably right — they are up on this kind of stuff – but good fit important.
3. BRISIEL CAN TEACH ALEX PARSONS A LITTLE HUMILITY. And I don’t think he’ll be at any purple sizzurp drank parties with JaWalrus or anything. So even if we overpaid a little I don’t think he’ll lose his desire to play well like some players do. Brisiel seems like a pretty solid guy
March 16th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Remember what Al said, you can never have enough CBs.
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Aren´t we trying to forget all the ways Al used and some of his “cheap” philosophy???
March 16th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Kirk Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Why not put Curry in the middle and Mclain on the outside?
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That’s what I’m saying. When you say McClain outside, you mean outside the organization right?
March 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
I’m sorry but this Walter Football writer is an idiot.
Calls Houston a “great team”? Since when? Yeah, they made the playoffs but “great”? Since when has Houston been “great”? They are “good”. Maybe even “pretty good”, but “great” should be reserved for teams who at least make it to the conf. championship game.
And calling Oakland an org. that is in “disarray”?
Maybe this ding dong needs to read a dictionary.
Hey, we’ve got our problems with the cap but even in my harshest criticism would I say we are in “disarray”.
We haven’t been this much in “array” in a long time.
What a dik.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
just ordered Wimbley “authentic white jersey”
and Campell “black athentic black jersey” for $50 bucks a piece. i know there not on the team any more but to get to more authentic RAIDER jerseys for sale is always a plus
March 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
on raiders.com
March 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
That’s what I’m saying. When you say McClain outside, you mean outside the organization right?
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I like that thought better.
McClain is the one guy I worry about the most. I don’t like him; as a person OR as a football player.
I think he’s a liability.
I would feel better about him if he wasn’t our MLB. ILB? Let’s try it, but i’d rather he just go away.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Some of the personnel moves we see on the D will have more to do what “scheme” we inted on running.
I like ACURRY however, he is not cerebral enough to play mike in a 4-3, ilb in a 3-4maybe, never mike.
Joe Mays who has a relationship with Dennis Allen would be a great fit for an ilb posiion if we switch to 3-4.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Jereel McClain is another ilb potential FA from the ravens.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Jameel McClain
March 16th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
This is the greatest blog on Internet, you can chime in anytime n you will get intelligent people always posting here , wether it’s morning , afternoon , evening or midnight
March 16th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
# DJ Johnny Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
102.GG Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
promising news…
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Saints cornerback Tracy Porter is visiting the Bengals today, and also talking with the Raiders and Saints.
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I betcha Hue is giving him an earful on how terrible it is in Oakland.
^^^^^^^
Doubt Porter goes to Cinncy, unless they offer big money.
Porter comes to Oakland or stays with Saints IMO.
His past relationship with Allen will be important.
March 16th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
tracy porter needs to be signed by this weekend, do it reggie
March 16th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
i meant by the end of this weekend
March 16th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
I’m sorry but this Walter Football writer is an idiot.
Calls Houston a “great team”? Since when? Yeah, they made the playoffs but “great”? Since when has Houston been “great”? They are “good”. Maybe even “pretty good”, but “great” should be reserved for teams who at least make it to the conf. championship game.
And calling Oakland an org. that is in “disarray”?
Maybe this ding dong needs to read a dictionary.
Hey, we’ve got our problems with the cap but even in my harshest criticism would I say we are in “disarray”.
We haven’t been this much in “array” in a long time.
What a dik.
LETS SHOW THIS WALTER FOOTBALL WRITER WHAT A GREAT TEAM IS STARTING THIS YEAR (or 2013 if we can’t quite get there in 2012)
What exactly is Walter football talking about anyway? Walter football does player rating stuff. Because a hall of fame owner who had one of the best records in football history through about 2002 left us last fall does that make us in disarray? Now? When next season starts? Most teams are in disarray at this time of year, personnel wise at least, with all the fat trimming that smart teams have to do. Reggie Mac, management, & staff will get organization, finances, and personnel squared away by August and the coaching staff will get it all together on the field by the time it counts in September.
till they start hitting in training camp its all jack, and until the regular season starts it doesn’t matter.
Who is this Walter football guy anyway? Maybe he can tell Romac his name and they can become “friends”. Or maybe that’s what he’s talking about. Could have a point there after all
But I don’t think the new regime will take any more crap from Romac either
March 17th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Ive been wondering, michael bush hasnt got alot of interest,in the open market. I think that if the bungholes offer doesnt fall through, we have a real posibility of getting him back.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Been a raider fan since 03! I believe that was gannons last year or kerry collins’ first year, either way its been a long road but it seems like my loyalty is finally paying off, feeling real optimistic (:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:03 am
Top of the morning, Raider fans. Happy St. Patrick’s Day.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:05 am
from Walter Football:
Raiders sign G Mike Brisiel (5 years, $20 million): C- Grade
The Raiders had a need for an interior lineman, and Mike Brisiel is a quality guard. But why overpay for a zone-blocking lineman when you’re cap-strapped? It makes no sense to me. Oh, and there’s also the fact that Brisiel is taking more money to go from a great team to a franchise in disarray. He doesn’t seem too concerned about winning.
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Who is this idiot? Houston?? They have the exact same 16-16 record over the last two years and LOST to Oakland last year. Sure they made the playoffs… but are still without a franchise QB (pssst.. Shaub threw a pass right to Huff with 10 players on the field.)
They for sure have a better defense, but look at the teams doing well in the NFL right now… its throwing the ball all over the defense.
Do these people get paid to write this stuff??
March 17th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Hey MR,
Happy St. Pattys to you as well.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:08 am
aig-raiders Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
If Gallery can come in cheap, he’s worth the risk. The guy can be a probowler at guard if he ever stays healthy enough for 1 season. I thought he was pretty solid at guard under Cable.
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He was a frigging ROAD GRADER at guard at times in the ZBS.
He’s a “value” pickup that is supposed to be the mark of the new org… cmon Mck… dazzle me!!
March 17th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Details on Chaz Schilens’ deal from the Jets: 1 year, $765K (with 500K guaranteed), per source. #nyj
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Damn they got Chaz for next to nothing. If he holds up, it’s a steal for them. Surprised the NIners didnt take a chance.
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Thats frigging crazy!!
We couldn’t afford THAT???
Mckenzie… RED FLAGS RED FLAGS!!!
March 17th, 2012 at 12:25 am
@365
Relax, chaz has a lot of potential, but he can’t stay healthy. We gave him 4 years to see what he can do, I think the time has come to get another reciever. If he balls with jets, good for him, it would suck for us, but we gave the man every chance to succeed.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:25 am
I like the two FA pickups, but not spending a mill on Chaz gives me the willies… thats crazy stoopid. Al on his worst day would not let him walk for so little.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:27 am
da trinity Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:25 am
@365
Relax, chaz has a lot of potential, but he can’t stay healthy. We gave him 4 years to see what he can do, I think the time has come to get another reciever. If he balls with jets, good for him, it would suck for us, but we gave the man every chance to succeed.
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500K?
Thats like a DIME to you and me… do not try to make this into anything but a complete BLUNDER!!!
What a moron!!
March 17th, 2012 at 12:28 am
I’M WITH POST-366.TIME TO MOVE ON..
March 17th, 2012 at 12:29 am
just remember when Ronald Bartell goes ALL BEAST on Malcolm Floyd you heard it from Walter Football nerds first
March 17th, 2012 at 12:34 am
I’d rather pay that for someone that can stay healthy. Easy to for u to act brave on the internet, all cozy behind ur computer screen. I wish u would talk reckless in my face.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:35 am
371 is for gdog
March 17th, 2012 at 12:36 am
Time to move on indeed;
You figure the Raiders/Reggie are going to draft at least one WR, with Moore, DHB, Ford, & Murphy, in order to develop the next rookie wide out we were going to need to make room.
Chaz would have just taken reps away, to fragile for special teams which your fifth/sixth string WR must be able to play.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:39 am
McKenzie: Complete moron. Lets trade McFadden for a six pack of Budweiser next.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:41 am
da trinity Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:34 am
I’d rather pay that for someone that can stay healthy.
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He played 14 games last season, and I was calling McK a MORON, not you.
He is a moron.
This is not good…
March 17th, 2012 at 12:43 am
You figure the Raiders/Reggie are going to draft at least one WR, with Moore, DHB, Ford, & Murphy, in order to develop the next rookie wide out we were going to need to make room.
Chaz would have just taken reps away, to fragile for special teams which your fifth/sixth string WR must be able to play.
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Ohh no.. can’t have Chaz taking reps from MURPHY!!!
This was a BLUNDER… you can’t spin it any other way…
March 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Complete blunder for losing our fifth string WR?
Losing Nnamdi, trading Randy for a 4th, drafting the Raider abomination, whose name will not be mentioned were complete blunders; losing Chaz no big deal.
Sheezh you make it sound like you think he’ll become Rice next season.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
How come seabass doesnt kick try and kick for a touchback every kickoff? Id rather see it at the 20 everytime than have a chance for a run back
March 17th, 2012 at 12:46 am
This was almost as stupid as hiring Greg Knapp as OC… well worse.
Can we have Al back please???
March 17th, 2012 at 12:47 am
@374
Just cuz Mckenzie didnt resign chaz doesnt mean he is planning on isnt trading dmc. Dmac has shown when healty is a top 5 running back in this league, chaz is not even probably in the top 50 at his position.
March 17th, 2012 at 12:50 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Complete blunder for losing our fifth string WR?
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I was supposed to be dazzled by his “money ball”.
Here:
Last year WR’s:
(PASSES COMPLETED/PASSES TARGETED)
Schillens: 23/38 = 60.5%
Ford: 19/33 = 57.5%
DHB: 64/113 = 56.6%
Moore: 33/77 = 43%
Did Murphy even catch a pass last season??
Yea… keep Murphy dump Chaz RA RA RAIDERS!!!
March 17th, 2012 at 12:52 am
chaz played in 14 games and what were his stats. If Dmc played in that amount he would have around 1300 hundred yards rushing and about 500 receiving. I think thats worth a roste spot
March 17th, 2012 at 12:52 am
da trinity Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:47 am
@374
Just cuz Mckenzie didnt resign chaz doesnt mean he is planning on isnt trading dmc. Dmac has shown when healty is a top 5 running back in this league, chaz is not even probably in the top 50 at his position.
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Irrelevant.
500k for your top PC/PT receiver is a bargain.
McKenzie dropped the ball…
MONEY BALL!!!
March 17th, 2012 at 12:54 am
da trinity Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:52 am
chaz played in 14 games and what were his stats. If Dmc played in that amount he would have around 1300 hundred yards rushing and about 500 receiving. I think thats worth a roste spot
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So your point is that “glass” Schillens played in more games than Mcf???
I thought your point was that he couldn’t play because he was always injured???
March 17th, 2012 at 12:57 am
A dude on the internet used pro-football-reference.com to figure out the PC/PT percentage (moi) and St McKenzie is busy doing WHAT exactly???
March 17th, 2012 at 1:01 am
Gdog Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:41 am
da trinity Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:34 am
I’d rather pay that for someone that can stay healthy.
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He played 14 games last season, and I was calling McK a MORON, not you.
He is a moron.
This is not good…
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Chaz played 14 games last year. I WAS ALL FOR KEEPING CHAZ ON THE ROSTER LAST YEAR because of his great potential. But his production in almost a full healthy season last year was next exactly overwhelming now was it?
Chaz looked like he lost some speed and athleticism last year. All the injuries may be adding up. Hope he rebounds and does what we all thought he would do here.
We need a reliable posession receiver and we once all thought that Chaz would be that and a deep threat all rolled into one. But it’s hard to be reliable and hurt at the same time in the NFL. Kinda a contradiction. I was all for giving it a try for 4 years but I can understand why new regime now wants to fill that need (and roster spot) with reliable possession receiver
furthermore,
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:36 am
Chaz would have just taken reps away, to fragile for special teams which your fifth/sixth string WR must be able to play.
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great point, special teams value needs to come from somewhere — and some roster spot– and Chaz is not a likely candidate
March 17th, 2012 at 1:06 am
Mike Brisiel is an excellent free agent signing and is considered one of the top twenty best O-lineman in the NFL. He has operated under a ZBS during his six seasons of play and knows Greg Knapp well. Brisiel is credited with throwing the block that led to the Texans win in the final game of their season which got them into the playoffs.
One thing in Brisiel’s favor is that he was a walk-on undrafted free agent who stayed in the Texans development squad for a season before gaining a starting spot. He is the type the Raiders want and need at this point and not the type of prima donna for which the rule of inverse proportions will apply.
Also, Brisiel fractured his tibia early on last season when an opponent rolled up his leg while he was engaged in a block. He had a plate with 6 screws inserted, missed several games then continued to play.
Brisiel is a throw-back from the old school and just wants to play, fight and win.
It’s good to clear out the crappola that has been hanging around the o-line for years and years and restore it to a superlative nature of play. Hopefully we will replace Satele, and the O-line will be complete.
Good pick Reggie.
March 17th, 2012 at 1:09 am
I wish Chaz well, but he just had to go: he wore out his welcome and will never play a substantial amount due to injury proneness. The Raiders tried with him but it just wasn’t to be.
This season DMAC will go down prematurely again as he is much the same as Chaz. Hopefully the Raiders will have an excellent back to replace DMAC. DMAC won’t be around in 2013 as the Reggie will lose patience with him also, as well as 2013 will be his contract year.
March 17th, 2012 at 1:15 am
DMAC WILL GO ALL BEAST IN 2012…for how many games? Hopefully a lot. Maybe Walter Football already knows how many.
March 17th, 2012 at 1:40 am
Mark Clemens Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Matthew Zeiser @MGZeiser Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Football season is coming. @Parsons65 The best center in the NFL… Follow him if you are in the know! Don’t be late to the party
Retweeted by Alex Parsons
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According to this guy, we already have our center.
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TO ALEX PARSONS: TALK IS CHEAP, PRIMA DONNA
maybe we could forward Alex Parsons trash talk tweets to WALTER FOOTBALL and they can straighten him out if Mike Brisiel can’t
My initial comments about Alex Parsons were entirely based on his play in preseason the last 2 years, since that’s the only time I saw him. I wrote them before reading his stupid ass tweet
“keep an eye on 2x practice squadder Alex Parsons, he fits ZBS well, plays both guard spots, and was being tried at C at the end of preseason 2011, and looks like he could compete for a roster spot.”
it should be noted that as a practice squadder the last 2 years any team could have picked him up for NFL minimum & roster spot. So apparently he has a much higher opinion of himself than all 32 NFL teams do
but if we had a guy who played LB/ST last year in preseason as well as Alex Parsons played guard & center, I guarantee you that LB/ST would have made our roster, maybe start at WSLB over Quentin Groves
I think Brisiel was a two time practice squadder too, but he wasn’t a prima donna like this Alex Parsons. Since bulky lineman can’t cover kicks, its a little easier to stash pretty good ones on the practice squad than speed position guys. But the prima donnas never make it so I now have to lower my rating of Parsons…or defer to Walter Football
BRISIEL: PLEASE TELL PARSONS TO SHUT UP SCREW THE PARTY AND PLAY
March 17th, 2012 at 1:53 am
brisiel seems to be a pretty tough guy plays on a broken leg ,i wonder if he took any pain shots ?do you think he could inspire mcfadden ?…..mc fadden says coach i hurt my foot, then looks around and sees brisiel coming at him ,then continues “its ok though ,its ok.im gonna rub some dirt in it >:]
March 17th, 2012 at 1:55 am
Hardline Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 1:06 am
Mike Brisiel is an excellent free agent signing and is considered one of the top twenty best O-lineman in the NFL.
Top 20 O-Lineman in NFL? According to who? Walter Football?
Brisiel is supposedly All-Joe, not All-Pro
are you trying to get drunk ass Raider fans to hate on the guy if he only plays like the 57th best OL in NFL?
You are going to eliminate him from the All-Joe team too? Anyone who makes a pro bowl roster, even as alternate/ 20th best in NFL is barred from the All-Joe team for life
Lets hope he eliminates himself this year
March 17th, 2012 at 1:58 am
McFadden can only go in ALL BEAST MODE when 100% fully healthy…and fully clean…according to WALTER FOOTBALL
March 17th, 2012 at 2:00 am
LOL at a few people lamenting how we let Schilens walk.
Dude gets hurt way too often. Last season was his first halfway-healthy year in…ever, I believe.
If NYJ tries playing him heavy minutes, they’ll be lucky to get 5 starts between all his “nagging injuries” that take three times as long to heal as anyone else. This isn’t a criticism of Chaz himself, just a fact. He gets hurt easily and is a very slow healer.
March 17th, 2012 at 2:08 am
Gdog Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:50 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Complete blunder for losing our fifth string WR?
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I was supposed to be dazzled by his “money ball”.
Here:
Last year WR’s:
(PASSES COMPLETED/PASSES TARGETED)
Schillens: 23/38 = 60.5%
Ford: 19/33 = 57.5%
DHB: 64/113 = 56.6%
Moore: 33/77 = 43%
Did Murphy even catch a pass last season??
Yea… keep Murphy dump Chaz RA RA RAIDERS!!!
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did you get these stats from WALTER FOOTBALL?
Murphy caught everything –except when a defender was coming near him and he short armed the ball.. GET BRISIEL TO TOUGHEN HIS SORRY ASS UP or report him to WALTER FOOTBALL. They’ll bring his market value down to what it should be.
I’m sure WALTER FOOTBALL could also easily give you some names of available players who could replace Schilens’ whopping 23 catches too..and his whopping yardage and TD totals. And his whopping 0 special teams tackles.
Get over it. Dude is replaceable. At least until he shows he can fulfill his potential. I wish him good luck in NY. He’ll probably need it.
March 17th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Raiders finally jump into free agency pool The Raiders signed free agent guard Mike Brisiel and free agent cornerback Ron Bartell within the past hour, marking the first signings by the Raiders since free agency started Tuesday. Bartell, 30, spent the past seven seasons with the St. Louis Ram… [...]
March 17th, 2012 at 3:18 am
MEX_GHOST Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Raider O Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I like B Campbell & Barksdale, but I don’t know if they are ready to start. We have 3 solid starters, but we still need C or LG (depends on Wiz) and a RT. If we don’t add any more OL from FA, then I think Campbell will start at RT, and Barksdake at LG.
They can get help from the other OL around them.
LT: Veldheer
LG: Barksdale
C: Wiz
RG: Brisiel
RT: Campbell
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LT: Veldheer
LG: Wiz
C: Myers
RG: Brisiel
RT: Barks
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Chris Myers?? He just re-sign with Houston.
To clarify some of the comments on my earlier post re OL:
according to “sources with the Redskins” Stephon Heyer was allowed to walk in free agency because he didn’t fit their Zone Blocking System (ZBS) well. Raiders then signed him last year and he did a good job as a swingman in a blocking system that primarily was power and man blocking on run plays with a little stretch and zone type assignments on a few select plays.
New OC Greg Knapp OL coach Frank Pollack are strict ZBS adherents.
ZBS linemen do not need to be as stout or powerful but need good ability to adjust on the move, and keep their body control and balance well when disengaged. ZBS OL must be able to block a moving target consistently and react to movement well. Based on what I saw last year, those are not Heyer’s strong points – I think he played well as a power blocker. So I find the “Redskins sources” to be credible.
so if the “sources with Redskins” are correct about Heyer’s inability to fit ZBS there is a good chance we won’t re-sign him.
Going off what I saw in games last year, Barksdale didn’t look very comfortable at LG (or RG) but very promising at RT. Campbell also didn’t look ready to play at LG. They were replaced by Heyer very quickly who did a good job as a fill in. This was when Satele hurt and Wiz slid over to center. Of course they didn’t have a very long chance to improve at guard, Barksdale was a rookie last year and Campbell is a young “project”. In 200?-2010 we used Zone Blocking System (ZBS) primarily and in 2011 we switched to mostly power and man blocking scheme. Barksdale looked like a solid 3rd round pick last year in a power / man blocking system and may work fine at RT in ZBS we can’t tell until the hitting starts. If it works out with Barksdale in ZBS then great we have our RT for the forseeable future. If he isn’t cut out for ZBS then we better get someone else because an effective bookend RT is critical for holding the line together. After the mini camps the coaches will probably know more about which OLs are good fits for ZBS. Since Raiders used ZBS as recently as 2010, only 2011 rookies (ie just Barksdale) haven’t been tried in this system yet.
Bruce Campbell may be a better fit at OT and he says he prefers OT to OG. He’s running out of chances at either
March 17th, 2012 at 3:32 am
Gdog Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:57 am
A dude on the internet used pro-football-reference.com to figure out the PC/PT percentage (moi) and St McKenzie is busy doing WHAT exactly???
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That dude using pro-football-reference.com can’t even get a job at WALTER FOOTBALL. Reggie Mac is our main man at RAIDER NATION.
Reggie Mac – Linebacker 1980s LA Raiders. 7th rated ILB on Raiders All-Time All-Mean team
Now in his late 40s, Reggie Mac can PUNK every dude using pro-football-reference.com AND everyone at WALTER FOOTBALL simultaneously.
Reggie Mac RAIDER FOREVER. NFL EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR.
Reggie Mac is a BEAST
March 17th, 2012 at 3:51 am
Raiders only have 64 players listed on the roster and that includes today’s signings and unsigned free agents that were on the roster last season.
March 17th, 2012 at 4:18 am
303.J Hill Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Has Gallery shaken the injury bug?
Would he swallow his pride and come back?
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He hardly played in his one year at Seattle because of injuries.
A lot of knee problems and an abdomen injury that required surgery.
He may be health now.
On the plus side he’s familiar with ZBS and Greg Knap’s coaching since they were with us at the same time.
Gallery helped out Veldheer a lot in Veldheer’s first year and they’re used to playing next to each other.
March 17th, 2012 at 4:19 am
*healthy.
March 17th, 2012 at 4:22 am
305.Raider O Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
I don’t mind bringing Gallery back, but it has to be at the right price. Injuries are still a concern with that guy. He has not played a full season in 3 years.
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That is the key O.
The right price.
Seems like Reggie could get him for not much at all and he’d probably be glad to accept the offer and come back.
March 17th, 2012 at 4:25 am
311.Raider O Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
J,
I thought he was familiar with the ZBS. Didn’t he come from Wash?
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Man you guys have short memories. Stop smoking O.
Gallery played for Knapp when Knapp was calling the plays and then for Cable here.
March 17th, 2012 at 4:36 am
London Fletcher would be a great signing to me. He’s still a beast with 14 yrs in the league. Lead the NFL past two seasons in tackles and could tell the dummies on either side of him what to do.
March 17th, 2012 at 4:37 am
346.Seymour Bush Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Kirk Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Why not put Curry in the middle and Mclain on the outside?
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That’s what I’m saying. When you say McClain outside, you mean outside the organization right?
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I’m laughing but I don’t understand the hate for McClain. They played better when he was in. He’d be better in a 3/4 though.
March 17th, 2012 at 4:37 am
Can scratch the possibility of signing tolbert off the list he will maybe sign with the steelers
March 17th, 2012 at 5:01 am
The Right price for Gallery?…a 12 pack of cheap beer and some sunflower seeds….
March 17th, 2012 at 5:18 am
Patriots sign Brandon Lloyd. If they signed Bush, there offense would be unstoppable.
March 17th, 2012 at 6:01 am
–”Chargers released QB Billy Volek. Volek was due a $750,000 roster bonus and is expendable following the signing of backup Charlie Whitehurst. Volek hasn’t started an NFL game since 2005. His release saves the Chargers $3.5 million in cap space”–
We need to sign him as our backup QB
March 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
I really hope manning signs in San Fran. He deserves to play with a great d for once.
March 17th, 2012 at 6:50 am
San Fran is a coin flip..50/50 he’ll win a ring!
If San Frans “D” plays like they did last year, and Manning plays @ least @ 75-80% of what he did in 2010-2011..I say it’s a no brainer!
March 17th, 2012 at 6:52 am
LMN, Volek @ 3rd string?
March 17th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Rather have Leinart as backup than a QB who hasn’t played since 2005.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
How do 49ers put together the kind of team they have right now and STILL be in the Manning sweepstakes?
Someday, these studs on D will have to get paid won’t they?
March 17th, 2012 at 7:25 am
I think we might be the only team that pays our kickers this much $$$.
Problem is, when u have a defense like Raiders have, having a luxury like Lechler is a waste. No matter where he put the ball, the defense couldn’t stop anyone anyway so it didn’t matter.
I’m trying to figure where Raiders are wasting so much $ so that we are sitting here scrounging for coins and SF is perfectly willing…and able… to drop 20 mill a year on Manning.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I don’t think we need to spend a lot on another FA CB like Porter. Obviously we’re looking for Bartell to start and I think both DVD and Chekwa would be capable on the other side.
Could just sign a vet minimum type guy, ala CJ37 or Lito Sheppard and draft another guy to compete.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Chris In NY Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I don’t think we need to spend a lot on another FA CB like Porter. Obviously we’re looking for Bartell to start and I think both DVD and Chekwa would be capable on the other side.
Could just sign a vet minimum type guy, ala CJ37 or Lito Sheppard and draft another guy to compete.
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Why?…did we spend alot of money on a CB already?
March 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
SF “arguably” and by alot of accounts has this “total team package” of a great offense AND defense, but have done it while still being waaaaay under the cap.
Where are we ridiculously overspending?
March 17th, 2012 at 7:32 am
This sounds sacreligious but what about dumping Lechler?
4.5 mill. right?
Most teams don’t spend nearly that much on a punter and seem to survive somehow…and go to super bowls.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am
If Manning spurns Tenn. he will leave a lot of folks down there not too happy with him.
Not that he cares…or should.
I have a lot of family in Tennessee and they are all Vol fans. The real “cerebral” ones don’t like him that much anyway.
Beating Florida is a BIG deal for Vol fans. They still remember how Peyton had four shots at the ole ball coach at couldn’t beat him ONCE.
College is bigger than pro ball down there.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:41 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 4:25 am
311.Raider O Says:
March 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
J,
I thought he was familiar with the ZBS. Didn’t he come from Wash?
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Man you guys have short memories. Stop smoking O.
Gallery played for Knapp when Knapp was calling the plays and then for Cable here.
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I was talking about Heyer.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Maybe we can restructure Lechler & Jano’s contracts, but I don’t think we should cut them.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:43 am
F gallery. He and zmill followed flinstone to the sea… Want nothing to do with the traitor…
March 17th, 2012 at 7:46 am
SF and Tenn are the best options for Manning IMO. I don’t understand his interest in Denver. They have an overachieving defense, and no talent on offense.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Good Morning Thec.
LOL @ Flinstone
March 17th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I’m not sold on Bartell, and I think we need to sign T Porter. He is younger, and I think he is a better CB.
Sign T Porter!!!
March 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
You figure the Raiders/Reggie are going to draft at least one WR
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With the few draft picks we have, I would be shocked if we took a WR or any “skilled position” offensive player.
The draft picks the next 2 years should go to addressing the D.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Whats good Brother O?
March 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 7:46 am
SF and Tenn are the best options for Manning IMO. I don’t understand his interest in Denver. They have an overachieving defense, and no talent on offense.
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I wouldn’t say NO talent. They actually have an H-Back with a lot of athletic talent and a hard worker, too. Unfortunately for them, he’s playing Quarterback…
March 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I’m not sold on Bartell, and I think we need to sign T Porter. He is younger, and I think he is a better CB.
Sign T Porter!!!
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If the price is right agreed.
We switch to 3-4 we need Lb’s. Joe Mays, and Jemeel McClain, should come on the cheap.
March 17th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Currently 2 Ilb’s in a 3-4 would be mcclain and ACURRY
March 17th, 2012 at 8:01 am
With the few draft picks we have, I would be shocked if we took a WR or any “skilled position” offensive player.
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Enjoying the rain and the quiet morning.
I agree. We have 4 capable WRs, and we have other needs on defense.
We can add 2 WRs (URFA) after the draft to add depth.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:03 am
I am really liking this Bartell signing and considering the Raiders saved 3 million by cutting Carlisle, I doubt they are spending much more for Briesel.
Here is a link that gives some reasons why Bartell choose Oakland – he has relationships with at least two of the Coaches including DA.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/41469/bartell-raiders-are-a-perfect-match
March 17th, 2012 at 8:03 am
I wouldn’t say NO talent. They actually have an H-Back with a lot of athletic talent and a hard worker, too. Unfortunately for them, he’s playing Quarterback…
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LMAO
That’s what I think too. They have a RB pretending to be a QB.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:07 am
The only thing I like about Bartell is his 1 year deal. I know he will play his best to earn another contract before he retires. He will play his best this season.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Thec Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I’m not sold on Bartell, and I think we need to sign T Porter. He is younger, and I think he is a better CB.
Sign T Porter!!!
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I am sold on Bartell as much as can be – always uncertainty with a FA. However we are still light on CBs. I do not think we want to give the #2 corner to CC or DVD at this point.
TP is not a better CB than RB if RB is healthy though. TP is better at interceptions but TP gets burned a lot more. His burn rate is like 66% – one of the worst in the league. He is a real gambler out there. Maybe RM can dig up another gem for cheap on this. If it is true that Underwood can play slot and RB is a #1 corner he has done wonders already.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 8:03 am
I am really liking this Bartell signing and considering the Raiders saved 3 million by cutting Carlisle, I doubt they are spending much more for Briesel.
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That was a good read on Bartell. his quotes are very telling…
March 17th, 2012 at 8:13 am
The thing I like about Bartell is his deal is for 3 million. 3 million for a potential #1 CB is a steal and it is only because of his injury that we got him that cheap. One scouting service had him rated higher than TP and several other corners that are going to score a lot more than that on the FA market.
A second thing I like is Lopez and DA know this guy (see link above). They really know what they are getting. The key is if he will stay healthy. I just remember Gannon’s injury and how that worked out still.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Ltr NATION
March 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
B,
Don’t give little cuzzo bad advice. He needs to stay in school and not start pointing fingers at the 1st year coach or his teammates.
Mizzou has had trouble all year with teams that have a mobile big man who can score.
Hell Duke lost too! This is the tourney where stuff like this happens all the time. It’s called bracket busting.
Calm down young B, and help your man get ready for next season!
March 17th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Thec Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 7:43 am
F gallery. He and zmill followed flinstone to the sea… Want nothing to do with the traitor…
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Gallery wasn’t a “traitor”. Raiders announced they weren’t keeping him at the start of free agency.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Brien is a reactionary hothead. He threatened to murder at least of three of us last night. Hopefully his cousin is smarter than him and doesn’t pay that fool any attention.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Brien just wants to mooch of his cousin.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Mark Clemens Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Thec Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 7:43 am
F gallery. He and zmill followed flinstone to the sea… Want nothing to do with the traitor…
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Gallery wasn’t a “traitor”. Raiders announced they weren’t keeping him at the start of free agency.
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Gallery is not a traitor but he is also not very good anymore. He had an awful season with Seattle. He would need to demonstrate the commitment to rework his body and get back into shape or something. I just don’t see him coming back here. He probably has millions in the bank and can go off and do his old car business now or open a tattoo shop or somethng
March 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Enjoy the weekend Thec.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
for the ones complaining bout reggie not signin chaz?…its schillens we r talkin bout right?…who really cares…what difference did he make anyway?….i like the house cleaning reggie is doing…..its about time…our time might have become worse as of now…but im excited in the direction nevertheless
March 17th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I am really liking this Bartell signing and considering the Raiders saved 3 million by cutting Carlisle, I doubt they are spending much more for Briesel.
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Brisiel’s contract is 5yrs/20 million.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Mark Clemens Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Brien just wants to mooch of his cousin.
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Do you know Brien? Have you ever net him?
March 17th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Have you ever met Brien?
March 17th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Brisiel’s contract is 5yrs/20 million.
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4 million a year IF he sees the life of the contract. That’s pennies in todays free agent market.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Eddie McGhee is why Chaz wasn’t even considered.
Oh, and a cat named David Ausberry. I wonder if the TE experiment is over with this guy and he’s our big WR now?
March 17th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Good posts Alzado!
March 17th, 2012 at 8:48 am
J Hill Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Brisiel’s contract is 5yrs/20 million.
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4 million a year IF he sees the life of the contract. That’s pennies in todays free agent market.
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Considering that some of that money is bonus, his annual cap hit will be much less than 4 per….
Moreover, we are moving to ZBS, and if he can can hold up, will be a steal, short and long term…
March 17th, 2012 at 8:49 am
450.J Hill Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Brisiel’s contract is 5yrs/20 million.
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4 million a year IF he sees the life of the contract. That’s pennies in todays free agent market.
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Yep. Reggie’s making all the right moves so far.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
The only issue that I have with the offensive siwtch is that it does not slow down, or stop our offensive production.
Pryor to injuries,pun intended, this team was on its way to being a dynamic, and prolific offense.
We did leave points on the board however, we could move the ball.
I just hope and pray the O does not take a step backwards.
March 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
1 NATION…
March 17th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Yeah, the thing I’m most worried about for this team right now is not who’s going to be the starting corners or backup RB or anything having to do with the roster, but rather is the offense going to fall apart under Knapp.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:00 am
J Hill Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Eddie McGhee is why Chaz wasn’t even considered.
Oh, and a cat named David Ausberry. I wonder if the TE experiment is over with this guy and he’s our big WR now?
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Nope. Ausberry’s our TE. Palmer really likes the guy.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
I would like an example of a successful offense that Knapp showed up to and let things “fall apart”.
We may not have as many yards per game, BUT I WILL GUARANTEE, that we finish better than 16th in the NFL in scoring next year, which was our ranking last year.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am
If it weren’t for Seabass bailing out this offense with his Pro Bowl level performance last year, last years offense would have been an offense ranked in the 20’s in the league in scoring per game.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Welcome back JFB, lol!
March 17th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Nope. Ausberry’s our TE. Palmer really likes the guy.
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I could see Gordon as our TE and Ausberry back at WR.
How’s Ausberry’s blocking skills?
March 17th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Thec Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Have you ever met Brien?
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I don’t need to, don’t want to. Maybe he is a nice guy. His blog personality is complete sh*t.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Is there a corner out there that can physically matchup with Ausberry?
March 17th, 2012 at 9:15 am
J,
Guess you were right that I know nothing of basketball, lol!!!
WE packaged the guy who was the key to the W’s “success” the last few weeks, and we packaged him up in a trade like he was a Chucky Brown or an expiring contract.
STill pissed about it, but I move on.
Actually about to go swing the sticks!!!
2012 Oakland Raider offense = best it will be in 10 years!!!
March 17th, 2012 at 9:25 am
J Hill Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Nope. Ausberry’s our TE. Palmer really likes the guy.
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I could see Gordon as our TE and Ausberry back at WR.
How’s Ausberry’s blocking skills?
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Probably not that hot, but they don’t have to be.
We just have to make sure Ausberry’s a competent blocker and Gordon’s a competent receiver in order to keep defenses honest. After that, Ausberry can be our receiving TE and Gordon can be the blocking TE.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Gordon is a blocker. He blocks well as a TE & FB.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Gordon is a blocker. He blocks well as a TE & FB.
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Agreed. We just need to make sure his receiving skills are NFL-caliber. Otherwise, the D will put eight guys in the box whenever he enters the game.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Go sign billy volek. Great backup, & his skills fit the wc O.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Waddup Nation
Rack ‘em
March 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
38Cs Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Been a raider fan since 03! I believe that was gannons last year or kerry collins’ first year, either way its been a long road but it seems like my loyalty is finally paying off, feeling real optimistic (:
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I’ve been a fan ever since an Eagles fan dared to bet against me during the 1980 Super Bowl. I’ve been to a lot highs and lows with the Raiders through the years. One year, on the first game of the season, I watched the Raiders beat the Vikings in the hospital minutes after my first daughter was born. She’s my Raiderette.
Some of my friends jumped to the Niners when the Raiders moved to LA. They called the team “Traitors.” I never wavered. I stayed loyal. I went to Ricky’s a few times in those years and there was a sign, if I can remember, that said, “Missing: Professional Football Team. If found please return it to Oakland.”
I remember the joy I felt when the team came back to Oakland and the shock right after the Tuck Rule game. The team began to lose more games than I can remember. Through it all I never wavered. I stayed loyal.
I’m also optimistic,and Reggie is the right man to bring back the the glory of this historic team. There is only ONE Nation. Raider Nation.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
I think we are set at QB, RB, WR, and TE. We need to add a backup RB and depth, but we have our starters.
QB: Palmer, TP
RB: DMAC, Jones
FB: Reece, Gordon
WR: DHB, Moore, Ford, and Murphy
TE: Ausberry, Gordon, Reece, Myers
Young and Takented!
March 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Grab billy volek, and we’ll have the playbooks for the donks & dischargers.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Taiwan Jones and the kid from the practice squad is all we need at backup RB.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
With Wimbley and Moss gone, I’d have to say our #1 need is RDE.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Taiwan Jones and the kid from the practice squad is all we need at backup RB.
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As long as aC stays healthy, but what happens if he gets injured again?
March 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
No more gallery talk, yay.. Dmac is the only injury prone guy I can handle..
March 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Marks hair Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Grab billy volek, and we’ll have the playbooks for the donks & dischargers.
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Leinart’s more likely. Knapp already knows the guy.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am
As long as DMAC…..
March 17th, 2012 at 9:46 am
We have such a gaping hole at 4-3 RDE that I’d have to imagine we are now a 3-4 defense.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am
J Hill Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 9:46 am
We have such a gaping hole at 4-3 RDE that I’d have to imagine we are now a 3-4 defense.
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If we stay in the 4-3, Shaughnessy will be the RDE.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:48 am
we can take jacobs or hightower after the draft for cheap.. Rbs are easy to find. Thats why bush wasnt worth 7.7 mil.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:48 am
but what happens if he gets injured again?
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More Carson Palmer.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:50 am
478. I know but leinheart sks fat donky ball
March 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Matt S will start at RDE (4-3 defense), but we need to add another DE.
I think Bryant is a better edge rusher than Houston, do I think we should move Bryant to LDE & Houston inside.
LDE: Bryant/ Brodine in passing situations
DT: TK/ Houston
DT: Seymour/ Houston
RDE: Matt S
- 3 player rotation at DT, and I would still like to add a NT
- Brodine was tendered for a reason
- I would add a NT and an every down RDE
March 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Duck,
We took ShoNasty out of the game on most 3rd downs in favor of Wimbley.
Who’s going to be our pass rushing DEs in those situations now?
ShoNasty is the only guy in the conversation now, which doesn’t sound promising for a 4-3.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Time to sign a nt.. can’t be versitile without a nose tackle.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:52 am
, so* I think we …
March 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Where are you going to find that every down RDE, O?
I think we have a better chance of finding an OLB that can play in the 3-4 with one of our comp picks and we can pick up a NT in rd 4.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I told You People we should have signed Mario Williams.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Id go 3-4. Romac is an ilb. Our DTs & DEs are really 3-4 ends.. Trade tk.. Get franklyn
March 17th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Bryant, Houston, and Seymour would be a STUD rotation of 3-4 DEs. Sign Franklin on the cheap to play NT.
Play ShoNasty as the elephant pass rush OLB.
Draft another OLB with the Nnamdi comp pick.
Problems solved.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:56 am
H,
You need 2 OLBs and a NT to switch to 34 defense. I think finding one RDE is the better move.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am
J not H
Sorry but I can’t type lately.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Franklin is just gawd awful at NT.
Over-hyped, over-paid, and should stay “over” there (anywhere but the Raiders).
March 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Rewatching the SD game that ended our season.
Pathetic!
Mike Mitchell was right in position to make a play on that cat who returned the KO for a TD in the 2nd qtr, and didn’t even get a finger on him.
Jerome Boyd was right there looking silly too.
March 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am
J,
Let me make sure I understand you correctly.
You don’t think Matt S is an every down RDE, but you want him to rush the passer from the OLB position in a 34 defense?
March 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am
The lakers looked great last nite.. Sessions is super quick. Our bench dominated with him out there. We would have scored 110 if we didnt miss a ton of layups. Okc better get ready.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Shout to Meth – Hated that ya people’s took that L early. Was looking forward to linking up next weekend in Phoenix for the regionals. I’m sure you’re telling lil cuzzo to keep his head up and remind him he’s got plenty of basketball left. Be sure to check out ‘dem Cards tonight homie. I’m thinking the Ville is gonna put on a show.
JFB – Today’s the day we knew would come. You’re getting what you wanted; Pitino’s press with Siva and Russ in all it’s glory! I can’t front, I’m worried about Drew Gordon and him potentially getting Dieng and Behanan in foul trouble; but if they can stay on the floor, advantage Louisville. Siva looks like he’s officially turned the corner these past few weeks and he’s playing his best ball yet. And our best shooters Kuric and the 2 Smiths have been off lately, so they’re due for a hot shooting night.
Should be fun!
Bang Bang Bird Gang….Let’s go VILLE!!!
March 17th, 2012 at 10:02 am
ShoNasty is one OLB.
Plenty of OLBs and NTs available.
Are there ANY RDEs available that we could count on to be a productive every down player?
March 17th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Id just trade nasty. He has trade value.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
You are assuming Matt S can play OLB, but I’m not sure he can. I know he had a great play in coverage and had an INT, but one play is not enough to prove he can be a 34 OLB.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
We have a 4-3 roster so far, and we just released Wimbley who was a good fit for 34 defense.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
You don’t think Matt S is an every down RDE, but you want him to rush the passer from the OLB position in a 34 defense?
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I don’t think I said ShoNasty isn’t an everydown RDE.
I said the Raiders replaced him in passing situations with Wimbley.
I think YOU said we need an everydown RDE.
I’ve said I think ShoNasty is a better pass rusher than Wimbley. So standing him up and moving him around as an elephant OLB like some felt Wimbley should be shouldn’t have been a problem. Kinda like your boy Mario Williams.
My position is that we have ZERO depth at pass rushing DEs and I think OLBs are easier to find.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:10 am
503. I dissagree. We have no mlb. No rde. & most of our linmen are 3 tec dts..
March 17th, 2012 at 10:10 am
who was a good fit for 34 defense.
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DE – Bryant/Houston
DE – Seymour/Houston
NT –
OLB – Curry
ILB – McClain
ILB – Goethel
OLB – ShoNasty
March 17th, 2012 at 10:11 am
so shawntae spencer in for a visit eh? cheap cheap
March 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Not to mention we brought in allen and I want to blitz.. 3-4 sounds good.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Cheap vets. New era
March 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Have the raiders been linked to any other free agents?
March 17th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Matt S will start at RDE (4-3 defense), but we need to add another DE.
I think Bryant is a better edge rusher than Houston, do I think we should move Bryant to LDE & Houston inside.
LDE: Bryant/ Brodine in passing situations
DT: TK/ Houston
DT: Seymour/ Houston
RDE: Matt S
- 3 player rotation at DT, and I would still like to add a NT
- Brodine was tendered for a reason
- I would add a NT and an every down RDE
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I think we should add a RDE for 3 reasons:
1- Matt wasn’t that impressive the 1st 3 games before he was injured. He played well, but not great.
2- we need to add depth. The only DE listed on the roster are Matt and Brodine.
3- We need to develop a good RDE, and Move Matt to LE. I think he is a better fit at LE, but I could be wrong.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I thought we were in line to talk with porter.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:19 am
DE – Bryant/Houston
DE – Seymour/Houston
NT –
OLB – Curry
ILB – McClain
ILB – Goethel
OLB – ShoNasty
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That’s solid. Can Curry play OLB in 34? I know he has the size, but he lacks pass rushing skills.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Plenty of OLBs
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Not really. Weak FA and draft class for 3-4 OLBs. No guarantee the Raiders would find a surefire starter there.
Matt Roth would be worth a look. But at this point, the Raiders have more 4-3 pieces than 3-4 pieces.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Terrible, terrible defensive schemes by Chuck B in this game.
Way too many instances of man coverage with LBs and Safeties.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Shaughnessy is the Raiders’ best bet at RDE unless they find a way to trade up to the 1st or 2nd round in the draft.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:22 am
I just hope reg doesnt repeat our past mistakes by thinking that our currnt DTs can stop the run as is… We need an anchor. Trade kelly & nasty for a real hog..
March 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
we have probably called porter’s agent but i know shawntae spencer was at the facility. on the bright side if we can fill most of our starting holes cheap like this we will be poised for at least one large contract
March 17th, 2012 at 10:24 am
We should sign Shaun Rogers for cheap to see if we can get our new strength and conditioning coaches to prove their worth. Still believe if dude could lose just maybe 10 pounds, he has 1 or 2 more effective years in him.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am
They say curry might go inside if we go 34
March 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am
LDE – ShoNasty
3Tech – Kelly
NT – Seymour
RDE – ???
SLB – Curry
MLB – McClain
WLB – ????
March 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Brodine got tendered for a reason.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:29 am
LDE: Bryant, and BRODINE in passing situations
DT: TK/ Houston
DT: Seymour/ Houston
RDE: Matt S
SLB: Curry
MLB: McClain
WLB: Goethel (but I suggest we sign Leroy Hill or Wesley Woodyard)
March 17th, 2012 at 10:29 am
521. That looks too familiar to me.. Bad ghosts
March 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Lots of WLB types available in FA and the draft this year. Much easier to fill that hole than 3-4 rush LB.
Shaughnessy is the RDE, Bryant, Houston and Seymour can all play LDE.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
shawntae spencer? I think rolondo mclain is faster than him….might as well put him in at cb…
March 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Just not excited about our options at RDE unless we are going to be bringing a LB too.
Dline looks great as far as stopping the run.
But we all know this league is a passing league. Bryant and ShoNasty as starting DEs for us is just not enough quick pressure.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Hmmm….
4 CBs on the roster. attrition rate says 2 of them likely won’t play a full season.
2 RBs on the roster. injury rate says they need help.
ReggieMc taking a brief swim in the FA pool, but it is in the UDFA piscine that Reggie is gonna have to go for the gold.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am
I agree with YA. I like B Wagner or S Spence if they were available. Like I said before, I think Wagner will be gone, but Spence may drop due to his size. He under 6′.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Dline looks great as far as stopping the run.
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Not really.
The front seven looks like a mess regardless.
Without more draft picks or more salary cap room, there isn’t much the Raiders can do about that in 2012.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
spencer is slower than mm are you sure you want him at corner?
March 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
If Shaughnessy can’t pressure at RDE, I doubt he can pressure at OLB.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Mike Mitchell was right in position to make a play on that cat who returned the KO for a TD in the 2nd qtr, and didn’t even get a finger on him.
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Yes, Mr. Physical, the “Missile”, sure shied away from contact on that play.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Who are You People ignoring the fact that MASON BRODINE GOT TENDERED?
March 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am
SnBBleeder,
Yes, today is the day. Got to say, the Lobo’s did not look very sharp on Thursday, and the Long Beach State press bothered us a little. Although, LB State had some serious athletes on that press, so while the Cards’ press will be tougher, LB State might have the better athletes (they had 6′7 wing guys who were really long).
Key will be, as always with the Lobo’s, our bench play. We go to the bench, early and often, and might even have better athletes coming off the bench than starting.
Game On
March 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
What can you tell us about Mason Brodine, O?
6′7 255lbs
255lbs????
3-4 OLB????
March 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
He is a hard worker, has a good work ethic, he can/ needs to add weight, and he was tendered for a reason.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Rolando McClain gets beat by Vincent Jackson for a TD.
Not sure what Chuck B is thinking.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I have more confidence in Mason Brodine helping this club more than Goethel, Bruce Campbell or the “Missile”.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am
http://www.google.com/search?q=mason+brodine&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#&miuv=0
He needs to eat. He can add weight for sure.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:56 am
You’re putting a lot of emphasis on his “tender”.
What, do we get a 1st and a 3rd if someone signs him?
March 17th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I have more confidence in Mason Brodine helping this club more than Goethel, Bruce Campbell or the “Missile”.
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You had a lot of confidence is Carlisle too.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Did Goethel have an injru history in college?
He and McFadden are the reason we brought in a new strength coach, lol.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:59 am
You had a lot of confidence is Carlisle too.
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He was upgraded for a younger, more costly version.
Not like they shipped him out of town to have some unproven backup replace him.
I have come to grips with my breakup with Savage. We had a good run. Played some Bruno Mars and cried it all out, and now I can move on.
March 17th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Goethel was going to be the starter at WLB before he got injured. I don’t know if the new staff agrees. We have been targeting LBs at the combine and SR Bowl.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Savage was 35 YO, and he may still come back, but adding a player who can play the position for the next 5-6 years was a need.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Beast Campbell is still on the roster, your boy is not.
I’ll agree it doesn’t seem like he has a chance in hell of cracking the starting lineup. But he should certainly be able to make the team as a backup.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Wow, Peyton’s choice is tough, I think.
SF:
1)If it’s true he wouldn’t want to meet up with Little Brother in a playoff scenario (I have heard this repeatedly, but I certainly don’t know if it’s true), then SF might not win the battle for Peyton. It’s true the Super Bowl contender usually doesn’t go to the Bowl the next year, might not even make the playoffs, but Peyton is probably thinking he has 2-3 more good years, and within that time frame, surely he believes the Giants will at least make the playoffs and that the likelihood they will meet is good. Maybe that is not something he wants. I just don’t know.
2. SF must surely look much better on paper to him than either Denver or Tenn. because they *are* better. However, funny things happen in the NFL, with other teams coming out of the blue to challenge the favorites for even division titles, injuries, etc.
3.) Might there be a nagging concern for Manning that no matter what Harbaugh says or actually thinks, the real brains of that offense will continue to be Harbaugh, who is a great coach, but as great coaches go, a manipulator of minds. It’s easy to manipulate young players, players who aren’t smart or knowledgeable, but not easy with a player like Manning who is used to being both coach and qb of the offense. So, while Harbaugh might try to let Manning THINK he is the major game planner and signal caller of the offense, might Manning not have to wonder if Harbaugh can NEVER give that up to another? You can’t have two generals of equal authority in charge of the same operation.
4.)It has to stick in Manning’s craw that as great as he is, he’s only won one Super Bowl. This is the number one reason I think he will have a hard time saying “no” to SF. Still, if he wins one with SF, there will be people who say, “Well, sure, he went with a team that was probably going to at least get there anyway so just about any good qb could have taken that team there.” If, on the other hand, they go the Super Bowl but lose, he’ll have to put up with, “Wow, even with a ready-made Bowl contender, even with Harbaugh, the guy *still* couldn’t win it.”
5. Living in the Bay Area: I don’t know the age of Manning’s kids, something that might count for a lot in his final decision. To a lot of Midwesterners and Southerners, this is not a great place to raise kids– too “do your own thing” whether kids go to a top-notch public school or a private one. Sure, it has great weather and lots of other things that are positive, but a parent trying to shape the values of kids looks at California and sees much of what is wrong with the country.
Denver:
1. Decent defense, probably getting better all the time with Fox as a very good defensive coach.
2. Great fans–as in Indy, Manning would be King. Football is everything during the season.
3. The Elway factor–good or bad? Hard to know just how much Elway as GM and as former Qb might butt up against Manning’s wishes for the offense. I have no way of knowing how Elway might handle this, but were I Manning, I’d have to wonder about it–there’d be some doubt, if only a hint of it.
4. Pretty good place for a Midwesterner/Southerner to feel comfortable about the schools, esp. compared to
CA.
5. Can they win the division as easily as, say, SF is expected to win their division again? In Denver’s mind and probably in Manning’s, looking at KC, SD, and Oak, all in the process of rebuilding, the answer is likely a “Yes.”
Assuming they win the division (as I am sure they do), are they likely to be able to beat the next round’s opponent, as likely as Manning feels SF is likely to do? I don’t know. I suppose he looks at the perennial power teams of the NFC vs. those of the AFC. Toss up?
I think Manning is convinced the owner of the Broncos and Elway will do ANYTHING to win, including some Eddie De Bartolo, Carmen Policy moves. Yep. (Some were legal, some weren’t, but there are ways., I do believe…..) I think Elway’s drive to win is one of the major factors that might influence Manning to go Denver.
Tennessee:
1. Shrug. I don’t know much about them except to say they have a shot at winning their division with Manning, but beyond that, who knows. Perhaps the following year they might be much stronger, but Manning wants and needs to win ASAP.
2. Yes, he’s comfortable in Tenn, but pro football is not as big as college football there unless his being there and bringing the franchise back to what it once was under Fisher might incite the fans and the area. He might welcome doing that. In fact, not having ever beaten Fla when he was at Tenn might motivate him to say, “I’ll show them in Tenn that I can deliver them a Super Bowl trophy.”
3. On paper at least, the Titans seem much further away from the Super Bowl than SF, and I don’t think even Tenn as an area can top the excitement of a Denver in landing Manning.
This is hard, but I think he’s going to pick Denver. Still, wouldn’t be surprised if he went SF. Would be surprised if he went with the Titans.
It might add a lot of fun to Raider games to have Manning in our division–even sweeter when we beat them.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
2nd and 10, down 31 to 16 late in the 3rd qtr, and Hue calls a sweep left to Bush for a 2 yd gain.
Stellar!
March 17th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Is it safe to assume that DHB will be better next year?
I mean, the guy works his arsse off and has come back every year as a better player.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I think Reggie and Allen understand the fact that our offense is ready to carry this team, but they need to fix the OL and add depth. Our defense needs a lot more work.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:13 am
2nd and 10, down 31 to 16 late in the 3rd qtr, and Hue calls a sweep left to Bush for a 2 yd gain.
Stellar!
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Not as shocking when you consider that play-caller is now helping out as an assistant DB coach.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
I like these signings. Filling key holes, with players who were really solid before getting injured. If they play like they did pre-injury they’re steals.
Keep going Reggie. We still need another two O-Linemen (RT and a C or RG (if we’re moving Wiz to Center and filling his space with Bartell).
And two solid LBs as well.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
True dat, JFB.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I like our team.
I understand that we were hit hard by injuries to key starter like Huff, McClain, Seymour, CJ37, and ShoNasty. Key potential backups being like DVD, Goethel, and Chekwa being hurt in camp didn’t help either.
Carson Palmer and Aaron Curry having a full offseason and camp with our team is going to translate to improved production.
Our team is CLEARLY headed in the right direction!
March 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am
J Hill Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Just not excited about our options at RDE unless we are going to be bringing a LB too.
Dline looks great as far as stopping the run.
But we all know this league is a passing league. Bryant and ShoNasty as starting DEs for us is just not enough quick pressure.
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This same D-Line 2 years ago was in the top 5 as far as QB Sacks (I think top 3 if I remember correctly). They can get to the QB, each and every one of them. It’s stopping the run which they were mostly cold about.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
I would like an example of a successful offense that Knapp showed up to and let things “fall apart”.
We may not have as many yards per game, BUT I WILL GUARANTEE, that we finish better than 16th in the NFL in scoring next year, which was our ranking last year.
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Show me an example of an offense which he took and made considerably better since we won the superbowl (not 10 years ago, but some time in his past 7 years as an OC)
March 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am
We could easily have a #3 – #7 offense next year if we creatively use the weapons that we have and they stay healthy for the most part.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am
DHB is having a big game.
Despite the fact that he dropped a TD and a couple other bunnies.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Raider O Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I told You People we should have signed Mario Williams.
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With what? Monopoly money?
March 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 17th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I have more confidence in Mason Brodine helping this club more than Goethel, Bruce Campbell or the “Missile”.
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Isn’t Qadry Ismail a little old, anyway?
March 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
This same D-Line 2 years ago was in the top 5 as far as QB Sacks
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Our team as a whole was, not just our Dline, right?
Plus Seymour and Kelly are 2 years older and probably not going to be asked to play the shoot the gap style that we’ve become used to.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
TD pass to Boss, gets hit in the noodle and doesn’t get up.
Dude got knocked out a lot last year, unfortunately. Started in the preseason.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Mav,
I don’t think we need to be to creative at all this season. I think we saw a lot of that trickery because the OC didn’t have a lot of faith in the QB just lining up and beating someone.
With the upgrade at QB and the maturation of our WRs, I think you’re going to see us just lineup in a lot of 3 WR sets with Ausberry at TE and just outscore people.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
“Is it safe to assume that DHB will be better next year?”
He may show improvement in route running, but it’s never safe to assume his hands and tracking the ball will get better. Might get a bit better in that regard, but not appreciably better.
Hand-eye co-ordination is set much earlier in life. Only part of this is, at this age, learnable. What he can try to control is tenseness. That might help make his hands softer if he’s trying to catch the long ball, but that’s about it.
Some people cannot both run and catch at the same time, which is why he had more success with short, possession catches (ran short route, stopped, waited for the ball), then caught ball with his stomach.
Don’t ask too much of him.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Palmer
DMac
DHB
Moore
Ford
Ausberry
Veldheer
LG
Wiz
Brisiel
RT
Not sure how anyone matches up with that.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Kevin Boss has has so many concussions, even after not hard collisions, that I am surprised the NFL will even let him play again. He is the very kind of player the studies show should hang up his helmet before he has early onset Parkinsons.
March 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
40 yd run by Tolbert mid way through the 4th qtr was a back breaker.
Defensive formation we had out there, the run was not surprising at all. 3 man line with Wimbley as one of the 3 and Houston standing up as an OLB over gate.
Needless to say Rivers audibled and right right over Wimbley’s side.
Later on, Lito and Gio get abused by Floyd for 6.
I wonder if that one series of plays got all 3 of them cut?
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