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Raiders release Wimbley

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, March 16th, 2012 at 12:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.

As expected, the Raiders parted ways with their best pass rusher Friday, releasing outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley before $17.5 million in guarantees was set to kick in on the contract he signed last training camp.

The Raiders confirmed the move in a post on their Twitter account.

Wimbley, with 16 sacks in two seasons, still will receive $6.5 million from the Raiders in 2012 and now is on the open market. He could add considerably more cash as the top pass rusher available.

Wimbley had seven sacks in 2011, four against the San Diego Chargers, and was 15th in the NFL with 31 knockdowns and hurries, according to the statistical service STATS, LLC.

The Raiders managed to get under the $120.6 million salary cap without cutting Wimbley, but they cleared $4.5 million more after his release.

Originally retained as an exclusive franchise player, Wimbley agreed to a contract extension under the Al Davis regime that paid him more than $11 million last year in salary and bonus money.

If Wimbley were on the roster past Friday, he would have been due an additional $4.5 million this year, his entire $11 million salary next season would have beem guaranteed, as would have $2 million in salary in 2014.

Linta, has said repeatedly in recent days that there had been no contact with the Raiders after they initially balked at taking a pay cut.

When coach Dennis Allen was hired, Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie talked of dealing getting “out-of-whack” contracts in line as Oakland put its financial house in order.

Cornerback Stanford Routt was released Feb. 3 before a big roster bonus was due, cutting the cord on a five-year extension that could have been worth as much as $54.5 million and that essentially paid Routt some $15 million last season.

Routt signed with the Kansas City Chiefs on a deal that guarantees him $6 million this season.

Oakland is also paying $2 million this season to tight end Kevin Boss, who the club released Wednesday after one year of service.

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343 Responses to “Raiders release Wimbley”

  1. DMAC Says:

    Primero

  2. DMAC Says:

    DMAC Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    So approx. how much under the cap are we now w/ this move?
    Let’s get a long term deal worked out for Branch now.

  3. DMAC Says:

    Sign L. Hill now!

  4. MistaBrown Says:

    You are right I don’t know I just went by what you have said here. But you don’t know if I sit on the couch and lift beers either, right? That didn’t stop you from assuming I plant myself on the couch. Practice what you preach bro, or do you not know any better yourself?
    ______

    aig-raiders Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Mrs. Brown,

    Lifting that can of beer and planting your a$$ on the couch is not considered exercising.

    BTW, lifting weight doesnt necessarily make you a body builder. I’m far from body building. But you wouldnt know any better.

  5. DMAC Says:

    I got 5 on it!

  6. MistaBrown Says:

    Why is Reggie letting Wimbley what he will do JUST doit Reggie! Is your “gut” on vacation or what ?

  7. YoungAmerican Says:

    Tafur said $15 million under the cap after the Wimbley move. I’m not sure how true that is, lots of numbers have been flying around over the past several days.

    Curry will be the SLB next season. Raiders will likely stick to the 4-3 primarily, with a few 3-4 looks sprinkled in.

  8. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Steve Corkran ‏ @CorkOnTheNFL
    Reply RetweetedRetweet
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    FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details #Raiders would free up $4.5 million by releasing OLB Kamerion Wimbley today. That would give them almost $15 million in salary cap room.

  9. YoungAmerican Says:

    Oh, I guess it was Cork who said that. Good find, EnglandRaider.

  10. John David Booty Says:

    Looks like Bartell is about to be on board. Had a nice workout. This is Reggies first FA steal. Bartell is going to do good things for us.

  11. DMAC Says:

    $15 mil?
    Lets plug in a few holes now Reggie.

  12. DMAC Says:

    John David Booty Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    Looks like Bartell is about to be on board. Had a nice workout. This is Reggies first FA steal. Bartell is going to do good things for us.
    ————

    Ditto

  13. YoungAmerican Says:

    I expect Porter and Brisiel to join Bartell soon. Wonder what the Raiders’ plan is at C and RT. Satele? Myers? Collins? Winston? Practice squad guys like Hurd and Parsons? Barksdale or Campbell?

  14. R8ER MIKE Says:

    would love to see us get Winston.

  15. DMAC Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    I expect Porter and Brisiel to join Bartell soon. Wonder what the Raiders’ plan is at C and RT. Satele? Myers? Collins? Winston? Practice squad guys like Hurd and Parsons? Barksdale or Campbell?
    ========

    That would be nice YA.
    Here’s what I’m predicting on the line.

    Veldy – Heyer – Wiz – Briesel – ????(Barks?)

  16. MikieG Says:

    And in other news, the sky is blue and water is wet…

  17. chet_gordon Says:

    With the way our defense performed this past season, no player deserves that kind of dough.

  18. DMAC Says:

    MikieG Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    And in other news, the sky is blue and water is wet…
    =========

    ……….and the weed is purple

  19. HGDaddy Says:

    Jerry McDonald ‏ @Jerrymcd
    Bottom line is existing contract was the deal of an elite pass rusher. Wimbley was good, but not in the Ware-Hali-Allen realm.

  20. aig-raiders Says:

    Mrs. Brown,

    That beer can analogy is a tongue in cheek insult buddy. But never mind.

  21. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    these guys are destroying the team…4-12

  22. DMAC Says:

    Jerry McDonald ‏ @Jerrymcd
    Bottom line is existing contract was the deal of an elite pass rusher. Wimbley was good, but not in the Ware-Hali-Allen realm.
    ==========

    I agree Jerry

  23. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    these guys are destroying the team…4-12

    =========================================

    No, they’re rebuilding it.

  24. aig-raiders Says:

    I expect Porter and Brisiel to join Bartell soon.
    ————-
    That would be real nice YA.

  25. RaidO Says:

    damn manning on the niners equals niners instant super bowl favorites.

  26. John David Booty Says:

    Had to post this again. Took it from another site about Bartell.

    Last 4 games vs. Larry Fitzgerald:
    TA: 20
    Rec: 5
    Yards: 56
    PD: 1
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

    2010 season
    Last game vs. Dwayne Bowe:
    TA: 1
    Rec: 1
    Yards: 28
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

    Last game vs. Roddy White:
    TA: 4
    Rec: 3
    Yards: 14
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

    And for kicks vs. Heyward-Bey:
    TA: 5
    Rec: 2
    Yards: 39
    PD: 1
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

  27. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    17.chet_gordon Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    With the way our defense performed this past season, no player deserves that kind of dough.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Absolutely.
    That’s a well paid pizz poor defense.

  28. DMAC Says:

    JDB,

    Looks like Bartell can play. Let’s just hope he has something left in the tank and is fully healed.

  29. R8ER MIKE Says:

    ……….and the weed is purple

    *****************************
    damn DMAC you gotta keep rubbing it in dont ya !!!
    lol lol lol..i need to come out west, dont need any more reason than that !!

  30. John David Booty Says:

    More Bartell stats:

    2010

    vs. Rivers
    TA: 8
    Rec: 6
    Yards: 46
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

    vs. Ryan
    TA: 7
    Rec: 4
    Yards: 22
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

    vs.Stafford (and Calvin Johnson in parentheses)
    TA: 5 (2)
    Rec: 2 (1)
    Yards: 13 (8)
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

    2009

    vs. Rogers
    TA: 6
    Rec: 3
    Yards: 113
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

    vs. Manning (Peyton)
    TA: 9
    Rec: 7
    Yards: 102
    PD: 1
    Int: 0
    TD: 1

    vs. Brees
    TA: 1
    Rec: 1
    Yards: 9
    PD: 0

    vs. Warner – Wk 11
    TA: 5
    Rec: 5
    Yards: 50
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 1

    vs. Warner – Wk 16
    TA: 7
    Rec: 3
    Yards: 34
    PD: 0
    Int: 0
    TD: 0

  31. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    14.R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
    would love to see us get Winston.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Well he’s till out there.
    Last I heard he was visiting with KC.

  32. Marks hair Says:

    About fking time reg.. No talks for weeks.. Of course he was getting cut. Why drag it out? Should have been on the branch deal all this time.. If we did this a week ago the FAs might not think we’re broke.

  33. DMAC Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    ……….and the weed is purple

    *****************************
    damn DMAC you gotta keep rubbing it in dont ya !!!
    lol lol lol..i need to come out west, dont need any more reason than that !!
    ============

    I might send you a little tester out that way.

  34. DMAC Says:

    I gotta run peoples!
    Ya’ll have a safe, solid weekend.

  35. M Lonetree Says:

    Whack whack the out of whack
    Cut it to the bone
    Reggie Mc is rollin’ home

  36. Marks hair Says:

    Please sweet baby jesus srnd peyton to seattlle or tenn..

  37. John David Booty Says:

    DMAC Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
    JDB,

    Looks like Bartell can play. Let’s just hope he has something left in the tank and is fully healed.
    ————————————————–
    Good gamble. If these are the kinds of players Reggie is going to be looking for, Raiders are going to have squads that can play.

  38. qodrn1 Says:

    Looks like negotiations with Wimbley held up his release today. Maybe with more cap room, they decided to try to work something out. Or the Manning-49er thing sent them into a panic….

    Evidently, Manning slipped into town this week, met with the 49ers and had a physical before his visit to the Titans…and we all thought the Raiders were super secret keepers.

  39. Haters going to hate Says:

    I heard Winston left KC and is going to StL today.

  40. Haters going to hate Says:

    Maybe not

    Eric Winston ‏ @ericwinston
    Just ate lunch at Jack’s Stack. Whoa. That was impressive

  41. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    I love Reggie already. Cleaning house and getting us out the ridiculous habit of over paying players. Get cheap players and turn them into stars! Make that a part of the Raider way instead reloading with a bunch of wash ups and speedsters!

  42. YoungAmerican Says:

    Looks like Schilens is going to sign with the Jets.

  43. HGDaddy Says:

    Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora
    WR Chaz Schilens expected to agree to terms with the Jets today #freeagency

  44. Haters going to hate Says:

    Chaz signs with NYJ

  45. Kamerion Wimbley As Good As Gone - Just Blog Baby - An Oakland Raiders Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more. Says:

    [...] morning PFT reported that Wimbley will be released today and now Jerry McDonald claims the Raiders have already in formed Wimbley he’ll be free to seek employment elsewhere. The Kansas City Chiefs must be licking their [...]

  46. kokomo Says:

    Agreed that McKenzie had to make most of the moves due to the crazy contracts Al D had done. Now my question is what are we doing to replace these players with starter caliber players? As of now, we will need at least 2 CBs, 2 OLs, 1 Backup QB, 2 LBs at the very minimum. We’ve over $15M in cap room supposedly.

  47. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    And if Peyton comes to Denver, who cares, you gotta beat the best to be the best.

  48. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie talked of dealing getting “out-of-whack” contracts in line as Oakland put its financial house in order.
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    “Machete” McKenzie strikes again!

    We all know Reggie isn’t going to do any FA shopping at Nordstrom’s. Let’s just hope that he doesn’t do all of his FA shopping, at a Flea Market or yardsale…

  49. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Buh bye

  50. Rdrllldubk Says:

    Houston is a better all around DE and Shaghnessey is a better pass rusher. I dont think losing him will hurt to badly.

  51. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I’ve been thinking all day that the Bills may have hosed themselves with Mario W. $50M guaranteed? To a guy who didnt play last year with a torn pec? What happens when he re-injures in preseason?

    I like that Reggie is taking his time and not making the kind of mistakes we’ve made in the past.

  52. R8ER MIKE Says:

    lol lol DMAC.. send it with the Blackstock pic !! lol lol

  53. jesusraiderjim Says:

    47 EXACTLY. Unless you’re a betting man like Marks Hair

  54. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    44.Haters going to hate Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    Chaz signs with NYJ

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    He’ll probably get injured signing the contract.

  55. John David Booty Says:

    Said it before, Kam was just “OK” in the 3-4 with CLE. He was just “OK” in the 4-3 with OAK. He is not going to get any better at this point in his career. We can replace his production for WAY less than 11 mil.

  56. Raider O Says:

    Mex Ghost,

    I heard a few things from SDSU faculty, but I don’t know much about Los Aztecas.

  57. YoungAmerican Says:

    The Raiders were absolutely a more versatile team with Wimbley on the roster, but that contract was untenable. If he wasn’t going to take less money, there’s no way the Raiders could keep him.

  58. guest123 Says:

    per Mike Klis:

    Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering roughly $90 million over 5 years

  59. jesusraiderjim Says:

    He’ll probably get injured signing the contract.

    LMAO

  60. guest123 Says:

    from Mike Sando of ESPN:

    Also from Mort/Adam report: Seahawks had “a jet at an airport in the Denver area in a failed attempt to visit with” Peyton Manning.

  61. YoungAmerican Says:

    With the 97th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Sean Spence, Linebacker, Miami.

  62. guest123 Says:

    Seattle is a bunch of Peyton stalkers. :)

  63. John David Booty Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    I’ve been thinking all day that the Bills may have hosed themselves with Mario W. $50M guaranteed? To a guy who didnt play last year with a torn pec? What happens when he re-injures in preseason?

    I like that Reggie is taking his time and not making the kind of mistakes we’ve made in the past.
    ———————————————–
    This.

    Even if Mario beasts this year, which I fully intend him to, hes not going to make the Bills better than Houston was with him. Im going to admit, on paper, right now, Buffalo does have the best DLine in the league, ON PAPER. But what about the rest of the team. Thats a lot of money on one player for a team thats not even close to contending. And with that injury, his performance is only going to decline the next few years, as his contract balloons. No disrespect to Al, but Ralph Wilson pulled a classic Al Davis move. And we know how these deals usually pan out.

  64. guest123 Says:

    90 / 5 = 18

  65. guest123 Says:

    per Mort:

    Suzy Kolber – reports to ESPN that #Cardinals are signing QB Kevin Kolb to new (restructured) contract

    ************

    Looks like ARZ officially bowing out of the Manning sweepstakes.

  66. Marks hair Says:

    every gm in the league is a betting man

  67. John David Booty Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    With the 97th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Sean Spence, Linebacker, Miami.
    ——————————————–
    OOOOOOH!!!

    That would be cold blooded. If he makes it that far. You know Reggie already knows Spence can play.

  68. RaiderDuck Says:

    guest123 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    90 / 5 = 18

    ===================================

    For a 36-year-old QB with multiple neck surgeries and who just missed all of last season? If the Broncos want to set their money on fire like that, they’re welcome to it.

  69. Raider O Says:

    With the 97th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Sean Spence, Linebacker, Miami.
    $$$$$$$$$
    I agree, unless B Wagner is available.

  70. jesusraiderjim Says:

    every gm in the league is a betting man

    true statement.

  71. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    58.guest123 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    per Mike Klis:

    Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering roughly $90 million over 5 years

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’ll assume that’s a joke.

    Otherwise it’s totally fuk’n stupid.
    Although John isn’t too bright for a guy from Stanford.

  72. Raider O Says:

    Spence is undersized in NFL standards. I think he will be available in the 3rd-5th rd.

  73. John David Booty Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    58.guest123 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    per Mike Klis:

    Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering roughly $90 million over 5 years

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’ll assume that’s a joke.

    Otherwise it’s totally fuk’n stupid.
    Although John isn’t too bright for a guy from Stanford.
    ——————————————
    I hope he takes it. Denver isnt THAT close, still have no RB, and no WR’s, as well as a GOOD, but OVERRATED D. Hate to say that any NFL game is won by “luck”, but Denver truly had more “lucky” moments than any team last year. THEY ARE NOT THAT CLOSE. Spend all that money on Peyton, does he really even have another 5 years left? This deal will leave Denver’s cap in shambles for a few years.

  74. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Schedule just came out.

  75. Silverandblack666 Says:

    http://www.raiders.com/schedule/season-schedule.html

  76. RaidO Says:

    i think its a no brainer for manning. If he wants the best chance and its a ‘really’ good chance to win a super bowl you pick the niners.

  77. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Although John isn’t too bright for a guy from Stanford.
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`

  78. Red Bearded Raider Says:

    all i know is this lisp talking ginger of a GM better make some moves.Every team in the AFC West is making moves to better there teams but us.If i would of known we were gona dismantle like the A’s i woulda never spent 1200$ on season tickets.This is getting ridiculous!Im sick of looking up at these teams from the cellar…MAKE SOME MOVES!!!!!

  79. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    70.jesusraiderjim Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    every gm in the league is a betting man

    true statement.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lord Al was born a gambling man..
    Trying to make a living and dong the best he can..
    When it’s time to leave us, he hopes we’ll
    understand..
    Al was born a gambling man..

    My father was whiner fan in Hayward…
    He wound up on the wrong side of the Bay..
    I was born in a truck on old Snake’s birthday..
    Rollin’ down highway sixty three….

  80. John David Booty Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    Spence is undersized in NFL standards. I think he will be available in the 3rd-5th rd.
    ——————————————-
    I’ll agree that he may be a little “short”, but he makes up for it in strength and tackling ability. When I heard about how bad his combine turned out, I knew he would slip, but I still say hes a mid to late 3rd.

    Watch for a lot of teams to work him out before the draft to see if the combine was a fluke. He says he was hurt, and Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on how I seen him play in space and tackle.

  81. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    Although John isn’t too bright for a guy from Stanford.
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`

    Good one ENGLAND!

    (My fat thumb hit the wrong key on #77.)

  82. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    73.John David Booty Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    58.guest123 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    per Mike Klis:

    Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering roughly $90 million over 5 years

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’ll assume that’s a joke.

    Otherwise it’s totally fuk’n stupid.
    Although John isn’t too bright for a guy from Stanford.
    ——————————————
    I hope he takes it. Denver isnt THAT close, still have no RB, and no WR’s, as well as a GOOD, but OVERRATED D. Hate to say that any NFL game is won by “luck”, but Denver truly had more “lucky” moments than any team last year. THEY ARE NOT THAT CLOSE. Spend all that money on Peyton, does he really even have another 5 years left? This deal will leave Denver’s cap in shambles for a few years.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Well, if true, I hope he takes it too because that will fuk Denver up for a long, long time.
    If offered, it would be one stupid fuk’n deal for that football team.

  83. R8ER MIKE Says:

    WOO HOOO it 4:00…time to leave work, grab some cold brews and some tasty buds !!!
    see you all on Monday !!!!
    have a graet weekend !!
    THE NATION
    =====ONE NATION
    =======RAIDER NATION !!!

  84. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    SCHEDULE BEEN OUT SINCE SUPER BOWL SNB666..

  85. Silverandblack666 Says:

    It was on Yahoo just a minute ago is why I posted it.

  86. raidertalk Says:

    Bon Voyage Wimbley, enjoy the 6.5 million dollar vacaction courtesy of the late Al Davis…

  87. Raider O Says:

    JDB,

    I hope we draft him. The kid can play.

  88. Marks hair Says:

    Den has better wrs than sf.

  89. raidertalk Says:

    Hey at least Reggie Mac was able to drag it out, and save some face for the Organziation

  90. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THANK SNB666.LEAGUE USUALY RELEASES HOME & ROAD OPPONANTS RIGHT AFTER SEASON ENDS.DATES IN APRIL SOMETIME..GOOD DAY TO YOU BY THE WAY.

  91. Marks hair Says:

    nothing better than dragging out a divorce

  92. BewareofRaiders Says:

    Now we can make moves FINALLY!!!!

  93. raiderzmaverick Says:

    L.A. Raider Dave Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    I love Reggie already. Cleaning house and getting us out the ridiculous habit of over paying players. Get cheap players and turn them into stars! Make that a part of the Raider way instead reloading with a bunch of wash ups and speedsters!
    ======================
    I don’t mind the cleaning house – but I’d like to see him start signing some of those “cheap players he’s gonna turn into stars”.

    I really don’t care if we’re not signing the big names etc. You can find quality, but let’s get on with signing them. The first two he is bringing in sound good…but can we get them locked up?

  94. raidertalk Says:

    As a long time Raider fan this is Twilght Zone weird. Usually Al would be chomping at the bit and making all kinds of moves.

    Its funny Reggie Mac’s approach to aqcuiring Free Agents players is like Al Davis’ approach to aqcuiring new Coaches–wait until all the big names are gone, then try to scoop up a no-name/up and coming coach.

    After the defensive debacles the last few years, I welcome the change, hope it works Reggie Mac!

  95. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Peyton per PFT wants the same contract that the Colts got out from under with $61 mil the first 2 yrs. Whiners, Broncos and Titans ok with it.

  96. raidertalk Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    nothing better than dragging out a divorce
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Lol! True but it gave the Raids slightly more leverage and showed that we won’t get punked by Agents in the future. Sets a good precedent…

  97. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Why is Reggie letting Wimbley what he will do JUST doit Reggie!
    =====================================

    Does anyone here speak gibberish and can translate this?

  98. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Mike Klis of the Denver Post sez on Twitter the Donks could sign Marcus Trufant and Jameel McClain as soon as tonight or perhaps tomorrow sometime.

  99. raidertalk Says:

    So um, we must have a lat more cap-space now huh?

  100. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Why is Reggie letting Wimbley what he will do JUST doit Reggie!
    =====================================

    Does anyone here speak gibberish and can translate this?
    ————————————————-

    I took gibberish in my first year of college and I have no clue. Just did two bong hits and a shot and I still aint havin any luck. Maybe Mr Brown will enlighten us later. He usually does.

  101. GG Says:

    David Hawthorne is one of my favorite NFL players, I hope the Raiders schedule him.

  102. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    raidertalk Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    So um, we must have a lat more cap-space now huh?

    ++++++++++++++

    Consensus between Cork and Tafur seems to be $14-$15 million.

  103. raidertalk Says:

    How much space do we have now? Some said we had 9 million before the Wimbley cut, the cut saves 4.5 million, so does that give us about 13.5 million in total!

  104. Hardline Says:

    Maybe AD is in Jewish heaven getting spanked by his God Yehovah for visiting his demented buffoonery upon us for the past 29 seasons.

    At least AD could have left us with some good contracts.

  105. ohioraider Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    these guys are destroying the team…4-12
    ———————————————
    No, quite the contrary.

  106. MistaBrown Says:

    SeyGlen, I forgot to slip in “know” between Wimbley & what. Everybody but you was able to figure it out huh?

    lmao
    ______

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    MistaBrown Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Why is Reggie letting Wimbley what he will do JUST doit Reggie!
    =====================================

    Does anyone here speak gibberish and can translate this?

  107. raidertalk Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    raidertalk Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    So um, we must have a lat more cap-space now huh?

    ++++++++++++++

    Consensus between Cork and Tafur seems to be $14-$15 million.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Nice! we could get about at least 3 playas at 5 million a piece,or 2 playas at 7 million a pop etc.etc. Not bad.

  108. raiderzmaverick Says:

    raidertalk Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    How much space do we have now? Some said we had 9 million before the Wimbley cut, the cut saves 4.5 million, so does that give us about 13.5 million in total!
    ==================
    $13 mil can go a long way with good contracts.

  109. Seymour Bush Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Why is Reggie letting Wimbley what he will do JUST doit Reggie!
    =====================================

    Does anyone here speak gibberish and can translate this?
    ————————————————-

    I took gibberish in my first year of college and I have no clue. Just did two bong hits and a shot and I still aint havin any luck. Maybe Mr Brown will enlighten us later. He usually does.
    ====================================

    yeah, he “enlightens” us with even more gibberish.

  110. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    GG Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    David Hawthorne is one of my favorite NFL players, I hope the Raiders schedule him.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Hawthorne is a beast. I’d love to have him.

  111. HairyBush Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    nothing better than dragging out a divorce

    ———————-
    I’m cool with Big Reg dragging this out. FK wimbley. let teams spend there cash so his greedy ass gets less. It also shows that Big Reg means buisness. Once Reg reached out to wimbley’s agent and they said no to restructuring or pay cut or whatever, Reg washed his hands of the situation and didn’t call and plead like what might have happened in the past. You go Big Reg, do your thing!

  112. MistaBrown Says:

    Ok SeyGlen, you keep telling us how smart you are but you continue to be a derelict.

    “Why is Reggie letting Wimbley “know” what he will do JUST doit Reggie!

    Are you all better know fuktard ?

  113. MistaBrown Says:

    SeyGlen the Dunce,
    Why would Reggie inform Kam of his intentions? Just release the dude and be done with it. Do you get my point now or should you go get your color crayons and draw pictures?

    This is obviously over your head just like 4th grade math…

  114. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    It’s ok for the agent to say the team has a cash problem but this morning I posted that even though they had cap space, they had a cash flow problem and I got banned until a new post came out.

  115. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    The cap space will go further this year as we have no high draft choices to spend it on.

  116. jesusraiderjim Says:

    ExLa

    You seriously got banned for that?? Strange.

  117. raidertalk Says:

    Love the blog; best Raider personalties since the Superbowl winning teams of Olde!

    Ladies in Gentlemen we are now in the Golden Age of Raider information…

  118. RaiderDuck Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    The cap space will go further this year as we have no high draft choices to spend it on.

    ==========================================

    Unless Reggie sees someone drop down the first round and decides to trade next year’s first-rounder or something.

  119. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Glass Shilens a Jet

  120. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Might have been something I connected with Mark D.

  121. raidertalk Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    It’s ok for the agent to say the team has a cash problem but this morning I posted that even though they had cap space, they had a cash flow problem and I got banned until a new post came out.

    ——————————————————
    Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm. Is there a cash flow issue? Sounded like they did better last year with all the sell-outs ans stuff?

  122. Haters going to hate Says:

    Do teams get compensatory picks for players they cut?

  123. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    To the cynics and panicked,
    You gotta let the spending frenzy die down a bit. Everyone being snatched up now isn’t worth the money. Be patient and trust that they want to win more than you do. Reggie and the new coaching staff’s jobs are on the line. What do you go riding on this? Bragging rights? Cost of tickets or Direct TV? I’m gonna put my faith in the people that have a lot more invested in the future of the team then you do? They are not just twiddling their thumbs you know. Gone are the days trying to make a team look good on paper.

  124. Haters going to hate Says:

    I guess so, they cut Gallery last year and people think they will get one for him.

    So they could get one for Routt, Wimbley, and Boss, Chaz if they stay healthy and Campbell if he gets PT.

  125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    can you imagine Chaz playing in rain or snow?

    yikes …

    sounds like an injury waiting to happen!

  126. Haters going to hate Says:

    From Elway:

    We enjoyed visiting with Peyton today in N.C. He threw the ball great and looked very comfortable out there.

    Watching him throw today was the next step in this important process for our team and Peyton. It was a productive visit and went well.

  127. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Good post Raider Dave (LA)
    There has not been a move made yet that has impacted us .Go Raiders!! In REG We Must Trust

  128. Haters going to hate Says:

    How about Burfict as a very late pick?

  129. LA to TheBay Says:

    I believe Gallery was a Free Agent we let go sign with Seattle. You don’t get picks for guys you cut, only FAs that sign elsewhere. Whole point of comp picks.

  130. raidertalk Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    can you imagine Chaz playing in rain or snow?

    yikes …

    sounds like an injury waiting to happen!
    ——————————————————
    At least he won’t have any natural grass to injure himself over, I think they have fake grass in NY. That will keep him upright for couple games!

  131. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    remember the sellouts were trick ticket gimmicks.

  132. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Burfict’s mental state worries me…but damn he has tools.

  133. raidertalk Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    remember the sellouts were trick ticket gimmicks.
    —————————————————–
    What have you heard re cash flow?
    I thought that even though they were gimmicks, it increased the flow because it got the games on TV in more markets and brought in more cashish

  134. DJ Johnny Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    58.guest123 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    per Mike Klis:

    Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering roughly $90 million over 5 years

    I think it’s true. LaCanfora said on NFLN just now he expects the contract to be 20 mill plus a year.

  135. raidertalk Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    58.guest123 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    per Mike Klis:

    Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering roughly $90 million over 5 years

    I think it’s true. LaCanfora said on NFLN just now he expects the contract to be 20 mill plus a year.
    ————————————————– —-
    Mr. Manning meet Mr. Shaughnessy.

  136. LA to TheBay Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    Burfict’s mental state worries me…but damn he has tools.

    ——————–

    Vontaze Burfict bombs his Pro Day, too

    PFT

  137. raidertalk Says:

    raidertalk Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    58.guest123 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    per Mike Klis:

    Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering roughly $90 million over 5 years

    I think it’s true. LaCanfora said on NFLN just now he expects the contract to be 20 mill plus a year.
    ————————————————– —-
    Mr. Manning meet Mr. Shaughnessy.
    ———————————
    You’re going to know each other alot more

  138. GG Says:

    Entertaining article here:

    http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2012/03/14/you-know-youre-a-real-san-franciscan-if-you/#3650-16

  139. GG Says:

    Actually….

    http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2012/03/14/you-know-youre-a-real-san-franciscan-if-you/

  140. RaiderDuck Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Vontaze Burfict bombs his Pro Day, too

    PFT

    =======================================

    Looks like we’d be able to get him in the 6th round, if not as a UDFA.

    Assuming Reggie even wants him, that is.

  141. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Vontaze Burfict bombs his Pro Day, too

    PFT”

    Not just the mental part of it the physical part as well.

    Can you say dud.

  142. Raider O Says:

    Dude Makes JaBustus look like a Saint.

  143. GG Says:

    I think Bryant is under-appreciated compared to Shaughnessy. Bryant was a beast last season for us.

  144. Raider O Says:

    Bryant is a beast. I think he should play LDE, and we should move Houston inside.

  145. LA to TheBay Says:

    GG Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    I think Bryant is under-appreciated compared to Shaughnessy. Bryant was a beast last season for us.

    ——-

    Agree.

  146. Raider O Says:

    Is it official?
    Did we release Wimbley?

  147. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Is it official?
    Did we release Wimbley?

    ========================================

    I believe so, even if it’s not reflected on Oakland’s website yet.

  148. Mark Clemens Says:

    The biggest free agent signing to the Raiders will be where Peyton Manning decides to go. Sure hoping he goes to 49ers.

  149. Mark Clemens Says:

    Can’t believe Chaz is gone! Dammit!

  150. Raider O Says:

    We need to add another solid pass rusher. I find it interesting that we tendered Brodine.

  151. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    Houston is too small to move inside, are you kidding?

  152. Raider O Says:

    Chaz couldn’t stay healthy, but he is talented.
    GO Aztecs!

  153. oldschoolraider Says:

    # raidertalk Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    can you imagine Chaz playing in rain or snow?

    yikes …

    sounds like an injury waiting to happen!
    ——————————————————
    At least he won’t have any natural grass to injure himself over, I think they have fake grass in NY. That will keep him upright for couple games!
    *********************************************
    Schilens could trip on a chalk line and be out for the season.

  154. Raider O Says:

    L.A. Raider Dave Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
    Houston is too small to move inside, are you kidding?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Really?!
    6′3 305 is too small?!

  155. Raider O Says:

    You do realize he weighs as much as TK and Seymour, and he is 3″ shorter.

  156. Mark Clemens Says:

    OAKLAND RAIDERS ‏ @RAIDERS Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    The Raiders have released LB Kamerion Wimbley.
    ———-
    It’s official.

  157. RaiderDuck Says:

    Mark Clemens Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Can’t believe Chaz is gone! Dammit!

    =========================================

    I’m assuming that was sarcasm. :-P

  158. YoungAmerican Says:

    L.A. Raider Dave Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Houston is too small to move inside, are you kidding?

    ————–

    6′3 305. Weighs the same as Seymour, and weighs more than Bryant.

    His natural position is 3-tech DT. High motor guy who holds his gap, but isn’t an edge rusher by any means.

  159. Raiders for life Says:

    Question….
    If the Raiders do have 15mil in cap room, doesn’t some of that money have to be saved for the few draft picks and maybe UDFA?
    Or can the rookie contracts get pushed off the books until 2013?
    Just wondering if Reg spends 12 mil for FA’s, that wouldn’t leave much for rookies.

  160. Marks hair Says:

    If we cut kam & restructured routt early we could have gone after soliai.. We could have gone 3/4. Helping us blitz, and hopefully making romac a better player.. Wish we did… Go get A.Frankland reg.

  161. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    That would be nice YA.
    Here’s what I’m predicting on the line.

    Veldy – Heyer – Wiz – Briesel – ????(Barks?)

    *******************************
    Why would you take someone that had an almost pro bowl year at Guard and move him to center???? I hope the Raiders find a center. They could bring in Meyers and Collins or could bring back Satele. If we are not going with Carlisle – Briesel would be good as well.

  162. Marks hair Says:

    159. We have to pay the rooks this yr but it wont cost much..

  163. Marks hair Says:

    161. I agree. Wiz at guard gives us run left all day.. Plus he gives us a great back up center.. If he is our center, who backs him up?

  164. freezetag168 Says:

    Any of the 2011 playoff teams a HEALTHY Manning signs with would make them an instant SB Contender. If the Donks were able to make it to the Divisional Playoffs with the QB play of Tebow, what can they do with a healthy Manning?

    Likewise, a healthy Manning QB for a Niner team of V Davis, Gore, (a BIG IF) head screwed on straight Moss, coupled with the Niners D would make this a VERY long season for this Bay Area Raider fan who lives in central Niner country. (Plus I’d have to goto NFL Page 3 for “Local” Raider coverage during the upcoming season)

  165. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    I think Lamarr did some of his best work with us on the edge.

  166. YoungAmerican Says:

    Joel Corry ‏ @corryjoel

    @caplannfl Wimbley release saves Raiders $8.45 mil on the cap. He counts at $3.4 mil due to signing bonus proration accelerating into ‘12.

  167. Mark Clemens Says:

    Al must be spinning in his grave watching all of his scholarships get cut.

  168. Raider O Says:

    I think Bryant is a better edge rusher.

  169. irjonny Says:

    i know it’s not a popular topic. but if we signed gallery for pennies and he won competition in camp. veldheer-gallery-wiz-besiel-winston??? can you imagine how formidable that line is for DMAC? especially on pulling guard plays?

  170. Mark Clemens Says:

    Chris Johnson ‏ @ChrisJohnson_37 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    “@RAIDERS: The Raiders have released LB Kamerion Wimbley.” mannn team is going in the other direction
    ————
    Toast is upset.

  171. Raider O Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Joel Corry ‏ @corryjoel

    @caplannfl Wimbley release saves Raiders $8.45 mil on the cap. He counts at $3.4 mil due to signing bonus proration accelerating into ‘12.
    $$$$$$$$$
    Let’s go sign some FAs.

  172. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Question….
    If the Raiders do have 15mil in cap room, doesn’t some of that money have to be saved for the few draft picks and maybe UDFA?
    Or can the rookie contracts get pushed off the books until 2013?
    ======================================

    That freed up money is what we are going to have to use to sign draft picks and URFA’s. Thank God we don’t have any draft picks.

  173. Marks hair Says:

    166. So where does that put us 16 17 mil under?

  174. Seymour Bush Says:

    Chris Johnson ‏ @ChrisJohnson_37 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    “@RAIDERS: The Raiders have released LB Kamerion Wimbley.” mannn team is going in the other direction
    ========================================

    Team is going in the other direction??? GOOD!!!!!!

  175. irjonny Says:

    i’m also liking to veldheer-besiel-satele-wiz-?? scenario. after years of line problems somehow we have a good start for palmer and dmac this season

  176. Marks hair Says:

    169. Yes untill gallery ruptured his btthole.

  177. Raider O Says:

    Sign
    CB T Porter
    OLB/ WLB Leroy Hill or Wesley Woodyard
    RT E Winston
    C Satele
    DT Bunkley
    DE/ OLB Wimbley

  178. Marks hair Says:

    Wimbley?177?

  179. irjonny Says:

    re-signing wimbley would be the same thing as a resructure…he didn’t want that

  180. Mark Clemens Says:

    Aaron Curry ‏ @AaronCurry51 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Dear fans, if you aren’t gonna trust McKenzie and Allen please had back your eyepatch and swords remove yourself from #Raidernation
    ———–
    Aaron Curry is hardcore Silver and Black now.

  181. Hardline Says:

    $90M offer from Denver to Manning with SF purported to have matched that? I personally would not have offered Manning two dead flies.

    Let’s say Denver acquires Manning; it’s Raiders v Broncos. Raider linebacker shoots the gap, grabs Manning and head plants him. Manning’s vertebra is fractured, he retires from the NFL.

    The winning Manning suitor faces that.

    The question I ask is how many Superbowls did Manning win? That was 1?? Yes 1, and for $90M.

  182. RaiderDuck Says:

    irjonny Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    re-signing wimbley would be the same thing as a resructure…he didn’t want that

    ========================================

    Besides, let some other team deal with his garbage time stats-padding. Kamerion Wimbley = Orlando Woolridge.

  183. Marks hair Says:

    He wouldnt take our call now..

  184. Raider O Says:

    I like to keep my options open.
    Wimbley is the best pass rusher available in FA, and we need a pass rusher. We don’t know what was said, agreed on, etc…
    Until he signs with another team, you never know.

  185. Thec Says:

    Wonder where are the guys who were clamoring for Burfict? Kid may be a UDFA

  186. RaiderDuck Says:

    Mark Clemens Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Aaron Curry ‏ @AaronCurry51 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Dear fans, if you aren’t gonna trust McKenzie and Allen please had back your eyepatch and swords remove yourself from #Raidernation
    ———–
    Aaron Curry is hardcore Silver and Black now.

    ==========================================

    YES! Me likey. Now if Curry would just can the “God Squad” routine (or at least move it to a different account), I might follow him again.

  187. Marks hair Says:

    Id pay peyton in a heartbeat..

  188. Mark Clemens Says:

    If Manning is smart, he will sign with 49ers.

  189. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Irjonny Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
    i know it’s not a popular topic. but if we signed gallery for pennies and he won competition in camp. veldheer-gallery-wiz-besiel-winston??? can you imagine how formidable that line is for DMAC? especially on pulling guard plays?

    ******************************
    Did you see what Gallery did in Seattle last year? He is not going to beat out Wiz in Camp. Gallery at best was an average guard. Last year he was poor and then injured. I guess he could beat out Heyer though.

  190. Hardline Says:

    187.Marks hair Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    Id pay peyton in a heartbeat..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It’s good you are no decision maker, Mark.

  191. Raider O Says:

    If Manning wants to win a SB, he will sign with SF. They are in a weak division, they have a good/ PB RB, TE, and they have a good defense.

  192. RaiderDuck Says:

    Mark Clemens Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    If Manning is smart, he will sign with 49ers.

    =======================================

    Manning and Palmer? That would be the best Bay Area QB tandem since Montana and Plunkett, or maybe even Brodie and Stabler.

  193. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sorry but Wimbley was NOT worth that much jack. Carson, Seymour, Huff, restructured to show commitment to the team. Wimbley showed commitment to Wimbley. It’s fine, it’s his choice, he is now on the unemployment line. That was our choice, and we are going to deal with these “out of whack” contracts.

  194. irjonny Says:

    easy for curry to say. he hasn’t screamed at the computers and televisions for 10 years waiting for the raiders to get it right. oh ya and he just got paid. how about this curry? if you don’t get 8 sacks, 40+ stops and 2 INTs you can remove YOURSELF from the raider nation.

  195. Hardline Says:

    Raider O,

    Manning would be crazy to sign with Denver or Tennessee over SF. Who needs that sort of grief Denver or Tennessee will visit on him ?

  196. Marks hair Says:

    190. peyton manning is better than any quarterback we’ve ever had. It is a quarteback drven league..

  197. tatum31 Says:

    If you want to analyze McKenzie’s moves, forget about this year. Remember cuts and contract structure changes, but forget about cap space and signings. THEN, start doodling about salary cap opportunities in 2013 and 2014 and 2015. Jerry very insistently and consistently told us that salary cap issues were for amateurs to worry about and that “trust me, there will be no salary cap problems”. Of course *making* the salary cap was no problem. With due respect: wrong; very wrong. Of course not, they have to make the cap. But, time after time, Jerry said “no, we can’t afford him; “no we can’t afford him either”. That’s because caps DO matter, and if you don’t watch out, the cap will cap your azz. And, it did. *This* year. You can diddle caps by moving stuff forward and restructuring. But, eventually you have to pay the consequences. Some teams peck away at relieving those consequences a little here and there. But, if you don’t peck away at backloading, the backload gets heavy. This year, we finally pay the price. We have unloaded a bunch (not all) of the backload load, more-or-less in one fell swoop. The beauty of that will come in 2013-2014-2015. Any criticism or anxiety about our current cap crippling (despite Jerry’s constant trumpeting that cap is no problem … and I DO like Jerry) MUST take into account any benefits accruing to 2013-2015. And, those benefits will be huge. Kudos Reggie. NOT junking out players – even though it might cost as much, or nearly so, to replace them *this* year, the benefits accrue to the “out” years. Life is good. He’ll field a competitive team and he’s setting us up for years to come of excellent personnel opportunity and management.

  198. Raider O Says:

    The other players were asked to restructure, but he was asked to take a pay cut.

  199. Seymour Bush Says:

    thec Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Wonder where are the guys who were clamoring for Burfict?
    =====================================

    Probably sitting next to him in a jail cell.

  200. Mark Clemens Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    Mark Clemens Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    If Manning is smart, he will sign with 49ers.

    =======================================

    Manning and Palmer? That would be the best Bay Area QB tandem since Montana and Plunkett, or maybe even Brodie and Stabler.
    ————–
    What about Gannon and Garcia?

  201. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Irjonny Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    easy for curry to say. he hasn’t screamed at the computers and televisions for 10 years waiting for the raiders to get it right. oh ya and he just got paid. how about this curry? if you don’t get 8 sacks, 40+ stops and 2 INTs you can remove YOURSELF from the raider nation.

    ***************************************
    I hear you but I have to admit I like his Passion!

  202. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    The other players were asked to restructure, but he was asked to take a pay cut.
    ===================================

    He had 16 sacks in two seasons. And you take away his one good game he had 12 sacks in 31 games or roughly a sack every two and a half games. He BETTER be asked to take a pay cut.

  203. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    Curry is fast becoming one of my favorite Raiders.

  204. Raider O Says:

    Hardline,

    I agree with you, but I think Tenn is a good option too. They have a good OL, PB RB, good and young WRs, and they have a solid Defense. Peyton also knows the division well.
    Tenn makes sense too. The money is there also.

  205. Marks hair Says:

    I love the way curry tackles.. Coach him up coaches!

  206. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    Dont bother wasting time on fans that dont understand there are salary caps to deal with. Some want us to sign every available free agent, go after every name they recognize and want to feel like they are the #1 ranked team going into 1st pre-season game.

  207. irjonny Says:

    i like curry too

  208. Mark Clemens Says:

    Manish Mehta ‏ @TheJetsStream Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Details on Chaz Schilens’ deal from the Jets: 1 year, $765K (with 500K guaranteed), per source. #nyj
    Retweeted by Vittorio Tafur
    ———
    Wow, can’t believe that is all he could get.

  209. Raider O Says:

    He had 16 sacks in two seasons. And you take away his one good game he had 12 sacks in 31 games or roughly a sack every two and a half games. He BETTER be asked to take a pay cut.
    $$$$$$$$$$
    The point is he was asked to take a pay cut which is different from what we asked the other players to do.

  210. bcz24 Says:

    Schilens just signed with the Jets 1 year deal league minimum $765,000

  211. Marks hair Says:

    God I hope peyton goes to tenn.. If he ends up in sf its superbowl #6 for sure.. FK THAT!

  212. big chill Says:

    these are not the days where al davis signed big names or put up a lot of money for guys that didn’t deserve it, things have been quiet but i like what the new regime is doing, if only we had some draft picks though

  213. LA to TheBay Says:

    Curry is officially my favorite Raider now.

    Get your head in the good book now, Aaron.

    That is, the playbook.

  214. Marks hair Says:

    We should have offered the minimum right?

  215. RaiderDuck Says:

    Mark Clemens Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Manish Mehta ‏ @TheJetsStream Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Details on Chaz Schilens’ deal from the Jets: 1 year, $765K (with 500K guaranteed), per source. #nyj
    Retweeted by Vittorio Tafur
    ———
    Wow, can’t believe that is all he could get.

    ==========================================

    I can’t believe he managed do something as strenuous as sign a contract without getting hurt.

  216. irjonny Says:

    peyton in sf is better than peyton is denver

  217. RaiderDuck Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    We should have offered the minimum right?

    =========================================

    No. Enough of this guy taking up a valuable roster spot week in and week out while he recovers from his latest hangnail or whatever.

  218. big chill Says:

    it might not be next year but when we can get some picks and some decent FA not big money ones, we will do good. i know it’s been hard since we have been losing for so long, but i think RM will get things turned around

  219. irjonny Says:

    #215 hahahaha!! priceless

  220. Marks hair Says:

    Soup to chi already happend right? officially?

  221. GG Says:

    OL shaping up as….

    Veldheer-Wisniewski-??-Brisiel-Winston

    back ups: Barksdale, Campbell, ??, ??, ??

  222. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    If we go out and act like the eagles did last offseason, we’ll have a season like they had as well. Spent a lot of cash, didnt play one playoff game.

  223. Marks hair Says:

    This just in: wr chaz schillens tears his vagiya while dotting the i

  224. LA to TheBay Says:

    8.45m??

    FK Moneyball, go grab some people, Reg!*

    *seriously, though, low profile is fine. Culture change doesn’t happen overnight and it likely won’t happen here with more $50m contracts.

  225. Mark Clemens Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    Soup to chi already happend right? officially?
    ———-
    Yeah, I just saw him on TV at Bears press conference.

  226. RaiderDuck Says:

    L.A. Raider Dave Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    If we go out and act like the eagles did last offseason, we’ll have a season like they had as well. Spent a lot of cash, didnt play one playoff game.

    =====================================

    Al tried for his own Microwave Championship a few years back as well (Javon Walker, Gibril Wilson, etc.). Didn’t work any better.

  227. irjonny Says:

    no one here is asking for mckenzie to break the bank. we just want news that our team is getting better while the rest of the west is. that’s all. we have a whole lot of vacancies. i like the fat he’s trimming though

  228. LA to TheBay Says:

    You guys forget that Al had pretty reasonable, solid free agency moves the last few years?

    Tried to go big in 08 and pulled it back.

  229. bcz24 Says:

    Chicago is the first team ever to hold a press conference with their BACK UP quarterback. LOL. Mistic work for Dah Bears up in Chi-town?

  230. LA to TheBay Says:

    bcz, wonder if their faith in Cutler is wavering?

  231. GG Says:

    good post #197…

    I just think Jerry meant “don’t worry about the cap” in terms of the Raiders getting under it in time for FA. Don’t think Jerry meant to paint such a broad bush that the cap doesn’t matter at all.

  232. Marks hair Says:

    I liked that al went big in fa.. I just thought he always chose the wrong guys. I almost always disagreed with his first round draft picks too. And most coaches….

  233. edward teach Says:

    Eric Winston is not coming to Oakland.

    We have a lot of holes on a bad defense, and not a lot of money to fill them with. Which part of that is so difficult to understand?

  234. bcz24 Says:

    Listen guys, relax, there will be very few signings before the draft. Don’t worry though, there will still be well over 200 free agent players available, and ALL the leverage will be gone for those guys. You will see a bunch of 1 year minimum deals. There will be open competitions in camp for a LOT of positions. These guys will be hungry trying to earn a deal, and playing at their best!

    On a side note, B’s cousin is tear shiz up right now in a very tight game!

  235. GG Says:

    Redskins signing Griffin = gave up chasing Bartell = Bartell on the verge of signing with Raiders = announcement possibly imminent.

    Next in line for announcements: Brisiel and Winston.

  236. RaiderDuck Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    bcz, wonder if their faith in Cutler is wavering?

    ===================================

    I would seriously wonder that. They sign a starting-QB-caliber guy to back up Cutler, then hold possibly the first Welcome Our New Backup Quarterback press conference in NFL history.

  237. bcz24 Says:

    bcz, wonder if their faith in Cutler is wavering?
    **********
    Nah not likely. He was playing some of the best ball in his career last year before he broke his thumb.

  238. Marks hair Says:

    235. yay

  239. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    LA To TheBay Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    bcz, wonder if their faith in Cutler is wavering?

    ******************
    With Chi. pass blocking they may have a press conf. for their 4th string QB. LOL

  240. RaiderDuck Says:

    edward teach Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Eric Winston is not coming to Oakland.

    We have a lot of holes on a bad defense, and not a lot of money to fill them with. Which part of that is so difficult to understand?

    =======================================

    Brisiel is much more likely. We need at least one CB (which may be Bartell), two more linebackers (one of whom can pass rush) and a NT (if we’re going 3-4). Winston’s expected $8 mil/year is out of our price range, especially when Barksdale can be our RT for way, way less than that.

  241. GG Says:

    I think we WILL sign Brisiel AND Winston because….

    OL is important naturally, our right side was a problem last year, Frank Pollack connection, we have $15m cap space and counting.

  242. edward teach Says:

    Redskins are stupid to sign Cedric Griffin. Dude’s coming off of two ACL surgeries, and his head coach has said publicly that, although he likes the guy, he just isn’t able to play like he used to. Leslie Frazier is a former DB, and he should know what he’s talking about.

  243. Marks hair Says:

    is anyone believe in the power of prayer? let’s all pray too sweet baby jesus for peyton to tenn..

  244. big chill Says:

    RM is waiting for the price to go down on a FA’s hopefully he can get bush now that we under the cap, but bush hasn’t signed anywhere yet either.

  245. Marks hair Says:

    To not too

  246. Marks hair Says:

    We’ll probably take a back after the draft.

  247. edward teach Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
    edward teach Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Eric Winston is not coming to Oakland.

    We have a lot of holes on a bad defense, and not a lot of money to fill them with. Which part of that is so difficult to understand?

    =======================================

    Brisiel is much more likely. We need at least one CB (which may be Bartell), two more linebackers (one of whom can pass rush) and a NT (if we’re going 3-4). Winston’s expected $8 mil/year is out of our price range, especially when Barksdale can be our RT for way, way less than that

    ********************************************************

    Brisiel, yes. We can afford him. Winston is the top rated tackle still left in free agency. If he could be had for cheap, that would be great for us. He can’t, so he’s not coming to Oakland.

  248. GG Says:

    #242

    well that’s what happens when your targeted FA (bartell) instead wants to play for da raiduhs. you fall back on someone else.

  249. Marks hair Says:

    I hope bush is learning the reality that he is a backup. Just stay dork

  250. poprox13 Says:

    I would seriously wonder that. They sign a starting-QB-caliber guy to back up Cutler, then hold possibly the first Welcome Our New Backup Quarterback press conference in NFL history.

    ___________________________

    Not really a starting caliber QB

  251. Nnamdi21 Says:

    BREAKING: Texans Guard Mike Briesel signs with Raiders!

  252. RaiderDuck Says:

    poprox13 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    I would seriously wonder that. They sign a starting-QB-caliber guy to back up Cutler, then hold possibly the first Welcome Our New Backup Quarterback press conference in NFL history.

    ___________________________

    Not really a starting caliber QB

    =========================================

    Marginally so. If he were starting this year, he’d be about the 20th-best starting QB. (By contrast, Russell was a solid 32, and Palmer is Top 10.)

  253. edward teach Says:

    Mizzou getting taken to the wire by Norfolk State.

    Brien must be grippin’ right now. Or throwing stuff at his TV. Wow.

  254. GG Says:

    If Bush was smart he’d realize McFadden gets injured often and thus gets a starting gig here. Unless Bengals are planning on letting Benson (UFA) go and making Bush their feature back, but I doubt that, they’ll want Benson back, but Benson-Bush is not a good combo in terms of power and speed. More like power and power. Forte-Bush and McFadden-Bush would make a better combo.

  255. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Nice pick up. An upgrade…

  256. YoungAmerican Says:

    Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

    In a deal done and confirmed by @jeffsperbeck, former Texans guard Mike Brisiel has signed with the Oakland Raiders.

  257. Raidernationdave Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Schilens just signed with the Jets 1 year deal league minimum $765,000
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    A contract that comes with an unlimited supply of walking boots!

    Bye Chaz! You and your fragile-azz self can now go to Broadway and suck just like you did in Oaktown!

  258. Nnamdi21 Says:

    247. Ding ding ding. Solid call Teach. Weren’t going to let him leave without a deal.

  259. RaiderDuck Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    BREAKING: Texans Guard Mike Briesel signs with Raiders!

    ===================================

    Link?

  260. GG Says:

    #251…one down two to go

  261. Haters going to hate Says:

    Raiders make their first FA signing, sounds good.

  262. Chris in NY Says:

    Wish we kept Chaz and Wimbley. Chaz was pretty healthy last year and may have turned the corner with his health issues. Wimbley was overpaid, but better than just his sack totals and with upside. Not sure where we can get a comparable edge rusher.

  263. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We landed on the moon!?!?!?

  264. Raidernationdave Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    God I hope peyton goes to tenn.. If he ends up in sf its superbowl #6 for sure.. FK THAT!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Uh, no. F**k Pie-Town Manning!

  265. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Briesels a good pick up even with the busted leg last year.

    RNS says Bartell signed too…hmmm

    These are the kind of pick ups Reggieball is looking for.

    Lets do diss…

  266. Tricky70390 Says:

    Just heard the Vontaze Burfict bombed his pro day. With back to bad duds at the combine and the Pro Day, to go with the fact that he’s a headcase, he could slide all the way to the 4th or 5th round should the Raiders want to take on that kind another problem linebacker.

  267. Tricky70390 Says:

    *back to back

  268. YoungAmerican Says:

    Vittorio Tafur ‏ @VittorioTafur

    Raiders sign CB Ron Bartell

  269. Chris in NY Says:

    Don’t know much about Brisiel other than he’s coming off a broken leg and the Texans online unit as a whole has been one of the best in the league. I’m hoping Bruce Campbell and Barksdale get a chance to start in 2012. Could still happen with Brisiel starting if they move Wiz to center.

  270. Haters going to hate Says:

    Vittorio Tafur is reporting Raiders sign Bartell

  271. GG Says:

    Wimbley’s agent’s comments about McKenzie are enlightening…

    —-

    “He’s cut,” Linta said via email. “We tried this afternoon to make it work this afternoon, but there were too many constraints with the Raiders cap and cash situation. [G.M.] Reggie [McKenzie] was a real pro trying to make it work. Good guy. Kamerion is going to take the weekend to see which teams may have an interest.”

  272. edward teach Says:

    Thanks, Nnamdi. Credit goes to the Raiders, though. Until he was mentioned as a “person of interest” I’d never even heard of the guy.

    Is anybody watching the Mizzou game? Less than 4 minutes left and Norfolk is up by 4.

    I don’t have a horse in the field, so was rooting for the Tigers in support of my Nation brother.

    Damn you, Brien. Too early in the tournament to have your team lose. Time to get on the phone with cuz and get this straightened out!

  273. bcz24 Says:

    Raiders sign Ron Bartell

  274. RaiderDuck Says:

    Tricky70390 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Just heard the Vontaze Burfict bombed his pro day. With back to bad duds at the combine and the Pro Day, to go with the fact that he’s a headcase, he could slide all the way to the 4th or 5th round should the Raiders want to take on that kind another problem linebacker.

    =========================================

    Al would have walked through the flames of Hades to get this kid, but I don’t think Reggie will be so hot on him.

    Bad attitude, bad measurables, lousy senior year, blaming his coaches for everything. Sounds like everything Reggie’s trying to get us away from.

  275. GG Says:

    Told you the signings were imminent…watch this space for Winston ;)

  276. Chris in NY Says:

    I’m a big upside guy. I’d like to see us add Burfict.

  277. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    Chris Johnson tweets he doesnt like the direction Raiders are heading in…….Yeah, a winning direction. Thats why he isnt a part of it!

  278. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Bartell too!?

  279. bcz24 Says:

    He didn’t say he didn’t like it, just that we are going in a different direction.

  280. Tricky70390 Says:

    I wouldn’t touch him at all in the first 3 rounds but if he slides all the way to the back/doesn’t get drafted at all what’s to lose? Maybe the experience would even humble the kid.

  281. bcz24 Says:

    Yes, Bartell too per Vito Tafur

  282. JLofty Says:

    $#it if b@uce’s cuz doesn’t get his keister in gear my bracket is gunna collapse…

  283. LA to TheBay Says:

    Congratulations to front office for shaving 40m+ in cap space in a week.

  284. Master Beeecham Says:

    YO PARTY HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT

    Gonna be cloudy this weekend in Marina Del Rey, but the party at the Ritz never cools down (patent pending)!

    Got a HUGE Reggae Party Boat ready to set sail tomorrow for Newport, already got RSVPs from 34 Spearmint Rhino strippers. The boat only holds 40 guests, so you know what time it is (intercourse time for my weiner).

    Better start doing my Navy Seal stretching routines to limber up them groin muscles

    Yo, Rasta Ganja is gonna play so we gots to straight up practice, word. Our last show the band forgot the music for the last 5 jams. Too much stoney weed and trips to the salad bar (those Italian seasoned crouton went straight to our heads).

    Got a few new fanny packs to rotate on the cruise. Used to keep my rolling papers and lube in my headband until some shorty made it rain with Moet Chandon.

    Them papers need ultimate fanny-style protection from the elements, word

    CHECKIN’ THEM CHITLINS TILL THEY HATCH, SWIZZLE

  285. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Time for Reggie to go to work.

  286. Marks hair Says:

    254. I think benson is gone

  287. Mark Clemens Says:

    Levi Damien ‏ @LeviDamien Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    #Raiders have signed CB Ron Bartell and OG Mike Brisiel.

  288. bcz24 Says:

    1 year, 3 million for Bartell

  289. Mark Clemens Says:

    It’s official, Raiders have signed someone!

  290. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Man, this Mizzou game! Norflok now up by only 2.. Brien must be losing his mind.

  291. bcz24 Says:

    $#it if b@uce’s cuz doesn’t get his keister in gear my bracket is gunna collapse…
    ************
    He just drained a pretty jumper. Brought it back to 2

  292. LA to TheBay Says:

    Clap clap clap clap.

    Solid, though unspectacular moves.

    Bartell is a playmaker (forces fumbles, tips passes, gets a few sacks) and Briesiel is a MENCH.

    Need more of these types.

    Osgood anyone?

  293. Marks hair Says:

    Go get franklin reg

  294. Raiderbuck Says:

    Adam Schefter
    In a deal done and confirmed by @jeffsperbeck, former Texans guard Mike Brisiel has signed with the Oakland Raiders.

  295. Mark Clemens Says:

    Now we need to sign Porter.

  296. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Brien’s cuz to the line to tie

  297. bcz24 Says:

    Dixon with the HUGE STEAL and going to the line!!!! COME ON!

  298. bcz24 Says:

    TIE GAME

  299. GG Says:

    #286,,,,if he’s gone, then bush to bengals is a good move for him i guess.

  300. Marks hair Says:

    I think we’ll see a lot of 1 year deals.

  301. JB Says:

    IT BEGINS:

    Bartell & Brisiel both signed by Raiders.

  302. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raider Nation-Station

    BREAKING: 03-16-12: BARTELL IN SILVER & BLACK
    “Reggieball” takes his first Free Agent gamble on CB Ron Bartell…

    http://​www.raidernationstation.com/​ones_to_watch

    —–

    They broke this story an hour b4 anyone…

  303. JLofty Says:

    Knowing that an hour earlier would have simply MADE MY DAY! Not…

  304. GG Says:

    Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
    Height: 5-10. Weight: 222.
    40 Time: 4.44.
    Bench: 28.
    Vertical: 36. Broad: 10-2.
    Hand: 9 3/4.
    Projected Round (2012): 4-6.
    3/12/12: Turbin is a sleeper prospect who has some speed and is extremely strong. He showed that off with good speed and strength at the Combine. In 2011, Turbin averaged 6.1 yards per carry with 1,517 yards rushing and 19 touchdowns. He caught 17 passes for 171 yards and four scores as well. In 2009, Turbin broke out with 1,296 yards and 13 touchdowns. He missed the 2010 season because of an injury. Turbin is put together well and is an elusive runner.

    We have some compensatory picks end of the 3rd round. It’s possible Turbin is a target here. McFadden-Jones-Turbin

  305. Seymour Bush Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Chicago is the first team ever to hold a press conference with their BACK UP quarterback. LOL. Mistic work for Dah Bears up in Chi-town?
    ============================================

    The Bears should have been in the Championship hunt last year. Losing Cutler really hurt them. And Caleb Hanie was not the answer. Even tho Hanie ALMOST beat us, thanks once again to Hue pissing that game away.

  306. bcz24 Says:

    Sh1t thats a wrap. DAMMIT MAN there goes my bracket.

  307. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    5/20 for Brisiel

  308. Raidernationdave Says:

    The Washington Post is reporting that Schilens will “be given the chance to win the No. 2 starting job opposite Santonio Holmes since Plaxico Burress is a free agent…”

    That’s rich!!!!!!

    The guy wasn’t even no. 2 quality when he was here. Actually, he was No. 2 quality when he was here because he only produced piles of ***t when he was here!!

  309. Seymour Bush Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Clap clap clap clap.

    Solid, though unspectacular moves.

    Bartell is a playmaker (forces fumbles, tips passes, gets a few sacks) and Briesiel is a MENCH.

    Need more of these types.

    Osgood anyone?
    =======================================

    Guys that actually LOVE the game. Actual football players. There is another one of those wandering around that is in the news every 8 seconds. His name is Manning.

  310. No Mas Diamante Says:

    So RG is set and LT seems set as well. So who is going to play RT? C? LG? Where will wiz play? Wiz at center makes sense. That’s what he was when he was drafted.

  311. Marks hair Says:

    Wow johnsons deal saves the lions 10mil in cap space this yr.. Dks.

  312. bcz24 Says:

    That’s what he was when he was drafted.
    **********
    Wiz was a guard at Penn St. He is a MUCH better guard than he is a center. He is staying at guard.

  313. GG Says:

    veldheer-wiz-??-brisiel-barksdale/winston (pending)

  314. Marks hair Says:

    304. Yeah alot of people are looking at him..

  315. Haters going to hate Says:

    Raiders should go after Chris Myers but I think he will cost too much.

  316. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    I keep seeing Winston listed has their been some secret visit I do not know about?

    After looking at the two Centers available in FA (Collins and Meyers) one was drafted in the 5th and the other in the 6th. Maybe with the Comp picks we should just sign Satele and see if one of them can compete?

  317. GG Says:

    brisiel RG and winston RT makes sense for us, our right side was poor, Frank Pollack former texans OL coach now Raiders OL coach, winston still testing market, but a good bet to prefer raiders

  318. YoungAmerican Says:

    1 year, $3 million for Bartel. A little higher than I thought it would be, but it is likely a cap-friendly deal. We’ll find out more soon, I’m sure.

  319. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    Wiz makes a great LG, but is still better then any Center we have on the roster, so untill we can upgrade Center, he gonna play that. And he was a gaurd in college.

  320. GG Says:

    but dont flame me if i get that wrong, got 2/2 so far.

  321. bcz24 Says:

    No way to make a 1 year deal cap friendly. It will cost us 3 mill towards the cap.

  322. Master Beeecham Says:

    HA HA did Brian the Genital’s cousin do his classic choke job again?

    Although losing to a 15 seed is much better than I thought they’d do.

    I was expecting a blowout in the 1st round of the NIT to Western Boise Tech Community College.

    Anyway, cousin can now take his Washington General act straight to the “sports room” and get a fresh beer from the dorm fridge

    Just another classic Kelly Family tank job for the blooper reel!

    HOLLA BACK TO THE RUN DMC MO WIZZLE

  323. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Bummer.. really sorry B@uce, Michael had a great game though.

  324. LA to TheBay Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    No way to make a 1 year deal cap friendly. It will cost us 3 mill towards the cap.

    ———-

    You sure? Even if there’s some sort of injury or incentive clause?

    I know you cant spread a 1 year deal, obviously, but does the total amount of contract also count 100% as a cap hit?

  325. JLofty Says:

    Barksdale is the RAIDERS RT in 2012! Kid’s gunna rock it…

  326. YoungAmerican Says:

    You sure? Even if there’s some sort of injury or incentive clause?

    ———

    Yeah, this is what I meant. Could be a max of $3 million with incentives.

  327. JLofty Says:

    Plunk which kid was B’s cuz? Dixon?

  328. GG Says:

    Regarding Center…

    Chris Meyers could draw interest from the Raiders. Going the whole hog with Meyers-Brisiel-Winston re-grouping.

    Scott Wells would be out of our reach. Otherwise it’s Satele re-signed.

  329. bcz24 Says:

    It might be a split contract, where if he goes on IR then it only counts as half, but for now the 3 mill counts. I doubt if he signed a split contract, but if he did, and he does get hurt then we will get a 1.5 mill cap credit next year.

  330. Goldie7 Says:

    Texans right guard Mike Brisiel, an unrestricted free agent, has signed with the Oakland Raiders. Posted by John McClain on a Houston Chronicle blog‎.

  331. YoungAmerican Says:

    John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL

    G Mike Brisiel getting $20 mil over 5 years from Raiders. He’d been looking for $4 per. Congrats Mike!

  332. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Yeah..

  333. bcz24 Says:

    You count the incentives upfront towards the cap, and get a credit if he doesn’t meet them.

  334. GG Says:

    Raiders not only have to address starting OLmen, but back-ups to PUSH starters.

    Barksdale RT on roster but otherwise we have B.Campbell, so Winston RT signing would still make sense not only pairing with Brisiel, (maybe even Myers too), having that continuity there with guys who are all accustomed playing together (Pollack included), but also will help Barksdale improve having to push to be a starter.

  335. Seymour Bush Says:

    Bengals lead NFL in cap space, but they haven’t spent a nickel
    ==============================================

    And some of you say Carson “quit” on the Bungholes? Mike Brown quits on his franchise.

  336. Seymour Bush Says:

    Scott Wells would be out of our reach. Otherwise it’s Satele re-signed.
    ====================================

    Scott Wells is already signed with someone else.

  337. Gdog Says:

    He’ll probably get injured signing the contract.
    >>>>

    He played 14 games last year.

    I’d guess that is above average for NFL players… he might do that the rest of his career… I wish him well (especially since he is out of AFCW.)

  338. dcraiderfan Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    these guys are destroying the team…4-12
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    Worse we are in the basement for at 5 seasons! Thanks to Spuds and Allen!

  339. downsouthraider Says:

    Dcraiderfan Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    March 16th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    these guys are destroying the team…4-12
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    Worse we are in the basement for at 5 seasons! Thanks to Spuds and Allen!
    ————————————————————————
    You guys are pathetic! Either be on board or get off the ship

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