Free agent center Satele arrested
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, March 18th, 2012 at 9:50 am in Oakland Raiders.
There has been little buzz about the possibility of the Raiders re-signing unrestricted free agent center Samson Satele, even though he’s started 42 games in three years since being acquired from the Miami Dolphins.
In light of an disorderly conduct arrest in his native Hawaii Saturday as reported in the Honolulu Advertiser, there might be even less now.
It seemed as if Satele might be out the door last year when he was an unrestricted free agent and the Raiders drafted Stefen Wisniewski, with Hue Jackson procliaming him the starting center.
Instead, Satele signed another one-year deal with the Raiders and Wisniewski instead started all season at left guard.
When Satele arrived in Oakland, the Raiders were strictly a zone blocking team under coach Tom Cable. He was slow to adapt to the system, but eventually became the starter and has been lauded for his toughness and ability to play through injury. In Satele’s first season with Oakland, Chris Morris, smaller, quicker and an experienced zone blocker, was the starter for the first four games.
The Raiders will return to a heavy emphasis on zone blocking this season under offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and line coach Frank Pollack, who were both with the Houston Texans last season. The Raiders have already imported one Houston player in Mike Brisiel, who will replace Cooper Carlisle at right guard.
It remains to be seen whether Wisniewski will remain at left guard or move to center.
Satele was arrested at 4 a.m. in an area popular having many late-night restaurants and bars, according to the Advertiser story.
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March 18th, 2012 at 9:53 am
UNO
March 18th, 2012 at 9:53 am
I win!!!!!!
March 18th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Wasting my time with such drible…
March 18th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Based on them constantly getting pushed back in pass protection.
How many runs up the gut between Satele and Carlisle do you recall?
I’m sure you read JFB post about Sateles lack of timing on screens.
Plenty of on the field issues to point to with those 2.
March 18th, 2012 at 9:59 am
The entire right side of the line was a problem, as far as I’m concerned.
As much as the defense was far and away the biggest weakness for the Raiders, I wouldn’t complain if the Raiders made a couple more signings along the offensive line. Anthony Collins could be a great sleeper pickup for RT.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Going back to sleep this hangover off…..
March 18th, 2012 at 10:04 am
slow news day
March 18th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Nice work Jerry. Now maybe some more relevant news if you do not mind. BFD really!
March 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Just my opinion but aside from Mannings supposed unwillingness to want to play in the NFC because of his brother, the 49ers are looking like a “real” contender for a trip to the super bowl.
They just signed Manningham, have the entire D coming back, and he could be (barring injury) the missing piece that they need. If he goes to Dungver on the other hand, that would be fine with me. If you are scared as a fan to want to play him, that is weak!
March 18th, 2012 at 10:25 am
He’s going to be a lot cheaper now!
March 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
I thought Satele and Savage played well especially in run blocking situations, and didn’t do as well in pass protection.
Barnes IMO was below avg at run blocking and pass protection.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Jim,
I don’t think the rumor that Manning doesn’t want to play for the NFC is true. Why would he workout for the Whiners, if he is not interested?
March 18th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I like A Collins, but he didn’t start a lot of games for Cinci. He is young (26), so I would give him a chance if the price is right. I think he can play G too.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Agreed with YA that for one reason or the other, the entire right side of the Oline could use an upgrade.
Wiz = clear upgrade at C
Brisiel = upgrade at RG
Just saying that I’m not so sure Barksdale or Campbell are actual upgrades to Barnes. They might be. If there is no other options, bring back Barnes to compete with those 2. If what you say is true, he will get beat out in camp and either end up as a backup or cut.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
O
After the niners snuck into the race without the media even knowing I believe very lttle that the media has to offer.
All the speculation is simply that speculation. You semi-pros in here are as informed if not more so than most of the media clowns. Schefter does have his finger on the pulse but that is about it.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Raider O,
the only reason Peyton would feign interest to the Whiners if indeed he doesn’t want to be an NFC guy is by dangling himself he can hope to mess up some of SF’s off-season strategy thereby giving his baby bro whatever advantage possible.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:57 am
No one is sure Barksdale & Campbell are upgrades since they didn’t play that many snaps, but I’m sure they can’t do much worse than Barnes. I don’t mind bringing Barnes to compete, but I rather add a new OT like A Collins, or even D Bell from the Bills.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:58 am
How many wins are you guys predicting? ballpark
March 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Are we over looking Alex Parsons at C?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
M,
Always thinking outside the box.
LOL
March 18th, 2012 at 11:01 am
I thought barks showed some burst & power.. They must like him at rt cause they brought in briesel for rg..
March 18th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Veldheer
Wiz
Parsons
Brisiel
Barksdale
March 18th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Marks hair Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 10:58 am
How many wins are you guys predicting? ballpark
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I’m not yet. Wanna see more of who we pick up. Plus see at least initial signs of Knapp working with the plethora of offensive weapons. People say Knapp sucked because he didn’t have weapons. Now he does for sure have explosive pieces to the offense.
I mean even with only a very middle-class LB added and some bottom-feeder depth I still think the defense will improve. The question is, will the offense.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:03 am
16. That sounds like green crack ur smoking.. Or maybe some cheese?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:03 am
What suprise… Manning worksout with the NInnys …and the story was supposed to be a leak ?… It was a ploy to drive up Mannings asking price…. Went from 60 mill to 90+ in just a few hours …me?.. I don’t care where he goes…. If our Team is the team we need it to be its not supposed to matter ….I care about Raider business…fear No one..that’s the Raider team we want …if Manning goes to the Donkeys then we need to beat them twice a year…..that’s all it means… Fk’m all …
March 18th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Marks hair Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 11:01 am
I thought barks showed some burst & power.. They must like him at rt cause they brought in briesel for rg..
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Not sure how Barks would look in ZBS. Will have to be a “try and see” type of thing.
Like trying to put the wrong CB in our Man-Coverage scheme in free agency has proven – good players don’t always look good in the wrong system.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Jim,
I don’t think he will go to Denver. I think it will be Tenn or SF. I understand that the AFC west is a weak division, but so is the NFC west and SF has a better team than Denver. Also, Tenn has a great OL that allowed less than 25 sacks last season, and I think that will be a huge factor too. Denver has nothing to offer other than a weak division and overachieving defense.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am
25. Alot of players coaches and fans have been chanting “beat peyton” for yrs.. But its not as easy as not being scared.. Nobodys scared. Some players are just better than others.. Id rather beat him once in the playoffs than face him twice next yr..
March 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Why do you think Alex Parsons can play C?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Remember when the AFC and NFC West were dominant conferences? Like to see that again
As far as wins go I think it is too early to guess yet. We will have our work cut out to win the division.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am
26. Yeah, thats why I wanted winston.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:13 am
18…depends on what Allen and Reggie do with our defense….a little early for this Raider fan to predict wins….. I do think our offense will be much improved … Potentials there ..
March 18th, 2012 at 11:15 am
I never acually saw a link about the 90 million for Manning just 60. The conspiracy theory is not interesting. Money is not the issue he will get paid. He knows he only has a small window to get glory.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Nobody has commented on my billy volek posts. Career backup with wc skills. Has had lots of sucsess off the bench and in a few starts.. Good mentor for tp.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Marks hair Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Nobody has commented on my billy volek posts. Career backup with wc skills. Has had lots of sucsess off the bench and in a few starts.. Good mentor for tp.
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I mentioned him a couple days ago. Great option for the #2 QB spot.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
@ 30,
When has the NFC WEST EVER been a dominate division?
Answer = NEVER
March 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
33…I got the 90 mill for Manning offer from Sirius NFL radio and Broncos bleacher reports running the story …. Never know what’s real until he actually signs…
March 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Ok Mark I will bite. I thought I read that Billy Boy had not started a game since 2005. That being said we definetly need a good back-up anf TP does need a mentor. I would rather have a Henne or possibly V Young but we have to wait and see I guess. Wondering where A Smith is gonig to end up?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Henne went to Jacksonville, Hill is staying in Detroit. VY is not backup QB material – too unstable. Volek is the Raiders’ best option, and will not break the bank.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
I know… Bleacher Reports usually fulla Schidt…
March 18th, 2012 at 11:30 am
I remember when a lot of people were really high on Volek… Even as a potential started….I’d be ok with him as a back up…plus.. Could help TP ..
March 18th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Disorderly conduct isn’t exactly running over and killing someone while drunk or high. I doubt any team will be overly concerned. He’s only 27, he’ll land somewhere. Raiders should offer him a deal now on the cheap.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Seems to me like Pryor is the #2 guy.
The lack of urgency to fill that position say a lot, imo.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Isn’t Parsons a C?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
J Hill
You bring up a good point about TP although we have not really done much of anything. Not complaining I like and trust what Reg is doing. I think TP is too raw as of yet for the #2 job. Would like someone with at least some games under their belt.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Jhill .. That’s interesting … About TP maybe being #2…..would mean they think he’s made progress and has potential sooner than we’d thought..
March 18th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Been on the practice squad a couple of season, right?
Would solve a lot of problems if Parsons and Barksdale can claim starting slots.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
I wonder if TP is working out with Palmer and some of the recievers?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I’d read somewhere that Pryor was following Palmer around like a puppy trying to pickup all he could… Hope that’s the case…
March 18th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I don’t know fellas.
Just think if Pryor was the non QB prospect we’ve heard about, then there would have been a push to get a quality #2.
Is Kitna still out there?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
The front office has played things so close to the vest we really have no way of knowing what they are thinking as far as TP goes.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
A guy like Lienart is someone who would be signed to compete for the #2 job. He’s not someone that is good enough to be penciled in as the #2, imo.
A signing like that would indicate Pryor certainly is in the conversation for the #2.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
If Palmer goes down would you be confident that someone like Leinart or TP could do the job? How about McNabb? Kitna would be ok.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
I wouldn’t expect a backup QB to come in a play like a #1 QB.
Then again, a guy like Orton, Campbell, or Henne are former starters who have had some success in the league. I’d put them a notch above guys like Volek and Leinart.
I’m hoping Pryor can throw the ball. If he can, we are set at QB for years.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Palmer goes down, ride TP into the sunset…
March 18th, 2012 at 11:54 am
YoungAmerican Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 8:20 am
The line had its best performances with Heyer at OG and Wisniewski at C. Not sure how Wisniewski specifically graded out in those situations, but the line as a whole flourished with him at C.
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No they didn’t. Where some of you guys get this info is amazing to me. Look, if Wisnewski at C and Heyer at Guard were the answers, they would have been in there. Go put in the tape of the Minnesota game, the game where Satele goes out right out the end of the lst half, and you will see Wiz and Heyer get completely manhandled in the 2nd half like rag dolls. That’s why Satele was in there the rest of the season, even tho he was limping around pretty good.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I don’t think there’s any way a player who has not played one down at quarterback (and, if I recall, has played only one down of NFL football, period), is your #2 qb.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I agree. I think we did better with Satelle in center then when Wiz had to go there and we had to put Heyer in at Guard where he looked horrible last year.
On back-up QB, I think that Kitna is now over-the-hill as far as being able to really back up. Probably is retired now.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Well if TP does end up being our guy the sooner we saddle em up and ride em the better. If he is doing all the right things and soaking up knowledge The Reg & co will know it.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I’m hoping Pryor can throw the ball. If he can, we are set at QB for years
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I never watched him in college, but there are some pretty good highlights of him on youtube.
Looks like he has good arm strength but throws some wobblers.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
J Hill Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
A guy like Lienart is someone who would be signed to compete for the #2 job. He’s not someone that is good enough to be penciled in as the #2, imo.
A signing like that would indicate Pryor certainly is in the conversation for the #2.
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Terrell Pryor is not the number two Q for the 2012 season. Pryor has not shown ANYTHING that he can go out there and play at this level. Expect Leinert to show up here not that he has shown much of anything either. We will get a good look at Pryor in the preseason. Hopefully he has spent the last 7 months working on his mechanics.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
The best possible thing for Terrell Pryor is to sit back for a couple of years, and work on his game and learn from Palmer. Palmer is very forthcoming with info and a very good role model.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Knapp was known for his inch-by-inch consistent offense. Ours was most effective when it was an explosive-as-helll offense. Our weapons (when we were using our FB, WRs etc.) really stretched the field.
Maybe if we ended up having Palmer going down it might be good to have a 2-way threat in there like TP. Then it would be a run-first, run-second and have the option of running when he’s throwing (kind of like what he did with Vick the first couple years in Atlanta). It wasn’t explosive in passing, but it probably plays to the strengths of a new or mediocre QB.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Don’t have the Minny game on the DVR.
I CLEARLY recall Wiz making a noticeable impact at C when Satele got injured. I think it was Barksdale in their at LG looking outta place.
Wiz doesn’t get manhandled by anyone.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Terrell Pryor is not the number two Q for the 2012 season.
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Who is?
March 18th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I don’t think there’s any way a player who has not played one down at quarterback (and, if I recall, has played only one down of NFL football, period), is your #2 qb.
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If guys who have not played a single down can be your starting QB, certainly a guy who hasn’t played a down can be a backup.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
No they didn’t. Where some of you guys get this info is amazing to me. Look, if Wisnewski at C and Heyer at Guard were the answers, they would have been in there. Go put in the tape of the Minnesota game, the game where Satele goes out right out the end of the lst half, and you will see Wiz and Heyer get completely manhandled in the 2nd half like rag dolls. That’s why Satele was in there the rest of the season, even tho he was limping around pretty good.
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Minnesota has one of the strongest defensive lines in the league. They’re going to lose a few battles here and there. But the offense stayed on schedule for the most part, and the line play was pivotal in closing out the game after the Vikings started to rally.
With Wisniewski at C and Heyer at LG, the Raiders dominated the LOS against another pretty good defense in the first Chargers game.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
No they didn’t. Where some of you guys get this info is amazing to me. Look, if Wisnewski at C and Heyer at Guard were the answers, they would have been in there. Go put in the tape of the Minnesota game, the game where Satele goes out right out the end of the lst half, and you will see Wiz and Heyer get completely manhandled in the 2nd half like rag dolls. That’s why Satele was in there the rest of the season, even tho he was limping around pretty good.
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Minnesota has one of the strongest defensive lines in the league. They’re going to lose a few battles here and there. But the offense stayed on schedule for the most part, and the line play was pivotal in closing out the game after the Vikings started to rally.
With Wisniewski at C and Heyer at LG, the Raiders dominated the LOS against another pretty good defense in the first Chargers game.
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I don’t know – I also don’t have it on DVR. But…if it was successful, why did we change and put in an injured Center who “wasn’t playing as well”?
March 18th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
J Hill Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Don’t have the Minny game on the DVR.
I CLEARLY recall Wiz making a noticeable impact at C when Satele got injured. I think it was Barksdale in their at LG looking outta place.
Wiz doesn’t get manhandled by anyone.
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See if you can find that tape. Williams literally destroyed him. Of course, Williams destroys everyone.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I beleive that TP is going to be really good at QB however, I will defer to RM, and DA…
March 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Lechler for #2 qb! Make him really earn that 6mil.!
March 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Hate to break it to you, but if we lose our starting QB next year for any reason, chances are pretty slim of us making any noise with a backup QB.
Exception to that would be a guy like Pryor. IF he can actually throw the ball.
But guys like Lienart, Volek, or any other QB out there right now aren’t taking us anywhere.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I think it was the LG (whoever it was) that wasn’t playing as well as Wiz was at LG. So they put back Satelle even though injured because that combination played better having the “best 5″ out there.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Minnesota has one of the strongest defensive lines in the league. They’re going to lose a few battles here and there. But the offense stayed on schedule for the most part, and the line play was pivotal in closing out the game after the Vikings started to rally.
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Actually I remember we did absolutely nothing in the 2nd half of that game.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
How many wins…it all depends on a number of factors….
-Does McFadden play more or less than 8 games
-Does the Defense show some adaptability this year
-How does Coach Allen lead this team?
-Does Coach Knapp incorporate some new ideas inside the passing game?
-Do we finally move Reece to TE?
& unfortunately
-Where does Manning land? In Denver perhaps?
Too many questions to know anything just yet….
For the record…how many wins is the WRONG question….
The question should ALWAYS be will we have an opportunity to compete for the Super Bowl?
March 18th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
TP has “IT”…I would rather him in the game if plamer goes down over lienart, and volek…fk those 2….
TP will prove to all during camp UFDA.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@34 Billy Volek would be a great pick up….IMO
March 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
O I think you are correct, Denver offers Peyton nothing infact they’re an Industry clone w/o WRs now,
Tennessee offers an elite RB, in his prime and good defense;
As well as easy division
San Francisco offers elite defense, elite TE, good WRs
Winner for SF could be Kaepernick, if Peyton goes to Tenn or Denver, Alex chooses not to wait on SF, Special K good be the starter
March 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I see my Raiders going 11 and 5 raider nation baby !!
March 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Actually I remember we did absolutely nothing in the 2nd half of that game.
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Yeah, offense kept stalling. Part of it had to do with the injuries at WR. That was the game DHB got hurt, and Ford was already out.
Michael Bush still ended the game with over 100 yards on the ground against one of the better defenses in the league.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I have the SD game on DVR, and Wiz was dominant in that game with no practice.
Give him an offseason at the position and I think he’ll be better than Satele was, no question.
All world? Don’t know about that, but certainly better than Satele.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
# J Hill Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Are we over looking Alex Parsons at C?
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Parsons played DT and OG in college, was signed by RAiders as a Guard.
Don’t think he’s ever played center.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Raiders should promote Pryor to # 2, I don’t think he forgot how to play qb, he would’ve been a first round draft choice this year if he remained w/ Ohio St for his senior year.
I think it would be an excellent move should Reggie draft a qb high on his draft board, (Tannehill) w/ our 3rd round compensatory pick.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
I think it would be an excellent move should Reggie draft a qb high on his draft board, (Tannehill) w/ our 3rd round compensatory pick.
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For the next 2 year the Raids should focus on drafting guys for the Defense. We have bigger needs right now IMO
March 18th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
2nd favorite Raider play from 2011 was Wisniewski blocking the New York Jet DL/LB in the air for a Raider goal line touchdown;
Favorite was Moore’s TD catch against Buffalo, reminiscent of Lamonica to Wells
March 18th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Theft I agree defense is a bigger priority in the draft, but if the QB is there, you gotta take him,
Linebacker is our greatest need and probably best value at our 97th pick
March 18th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Thec not theft, sorry damn cell auto correct didn’t catch it
March 18th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Yeah, we need LBs desperately now. We have a MLB who looks slow. Curry who plays with “passion” but not so many smarts. And…depth that wouldn’t make the practice squad on most teams.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Thec not theft, sorry damn cell auto correct didn’t catch it
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No worries Bruh…
March 18th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Grand Coullee, just read that Manningham signed with SF, was hoping he would be the Raiders fifth WR.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
So that its until the draft? We have a little more depth at CB, I guess we will need some LBs. Ar there any good, late-round, and foolhardy LBs available in the draft?
March 18th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I hope Sean Spence falls that far in the draft for us.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Possible FA targets:
CB Tracy Porter ($5 mil/yr)
CB Jarrett Bush ($2 mil/yr)
CB William Middleton ($2 mil/yr)
CB Shawntae Spencer (vet min)
ILB Joe Mays ($1 mil/yr)
ILB Barrett Ruud (vet min)
OLB Leroy Hill ($2 mil/yr)
OLB Rocky McIntosh ($2 mil/yr)
OLB Wesley Woodyard ($1 mil/yr)
OLB JoLonn Dunbar (vet min)
DT Broderick Bunkley ($3 mil/yr)
NT Aubrayo Franklin ($1.5 mil/yr)
NT Antonio Garay ($1.5 mil/yr)
OT Anthony Collins ($2 mil/yr)
OG/C Jason Brown ($1.5 mil/yr)
OG/C Dan Koppen ($1.5 mil/yr)
QB Billy Volek ($2 mil/yr)
QB David Garrard (vet min)
March 18th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I hope Sean Spence falls that far in the draft for us.
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I believe he will.
Reminds me a lot of what happened to Greg Jones from Michigan State. Similar player. Less than stellar measurables, although he doesn’t shine on film the way Spence does.
Jones dropped to the 4th or 5th round. Spence will drop to the end of the third.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
My bad. Greg Jones was actually selected in the sixth.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
post 16 the only reason Peyton would feign interest to the Whiners if indeed he doesn’t want to be an NFC guy is by dangling himself he can hope to mess up some of SF’s off-season strategy thereby giving his baby bro whatever advantage possible.
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i dont think thats the reason eli’s a two time superbowl winner he doesnt need that kind of help.but it is a good business decision $$$$$ to explore all options if for no other reason than to see whats up.jeez titans are willing to give him a job for life or what ever ,with new players in the game who knows ,peyton is sitting in tall cotton right now
March 18th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Best case scenario: Manning signs in Tennessee, Alex Smith goes to Miami, SF Whiners desperately sign Matt Leinert. Who blows.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Larry Grant of the whiners I believe is a RFA. We should certainly make a run at that guy as a back up ILB. He played VERY well when Willis was out and should come cheap with a shot at starting job.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Best case scenario: Manning signs in Tennessee, Alex Smith goes to Miami, SF Whiners desperately sign Matt Leinert. Who blows.
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If that scenario happens (would be cool)…only probably then Flynn’s price tag goes down with little competition and SFO can get him pretty cheap.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Larry Grant of the whiners I believe is a RFA. We should certainly make a run at that guy as a back up ILB. He played VERY well when Willis was out and should come cheap with a shot at starting job.
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We’d have to give up a 3rd round draft pick (I think it was a 3rd round tender) which we don’t have. Unless it was only a 6th round tender…in which case it would be worth giving up even though we have virtually no picks.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Grant was given an original round tender.
March 18th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Spence only managed 12 reps on the bench press.
And is only 5′11.
That doesn’t concern you for a LB?
March 18th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
smith would be smart to glue his arse to harbaugh .with out jim he doesnt have the season he did last year.it would be foolish of smith to look for a different home ,i dont know is his contract up or what ?
March 18th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
J Hill Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Spence only managed 12 reps on the bench press.
And is only 5′11.
That doesn’t concern you for a LB?
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Apparently had a deep bone bruise in his shoulder. He says he can do 19 when healthy.
All I know is that the Raiders were looking at him during the Senior Bowl, and his tape suggests he has very solid instincts. I’ll take instincts over measurables any day of the week.
And if he’s there at #97? That’s a value pick at a position of need. If he doesn’t pan out, it’s not like he’d be costing the Raiders a lot of money.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Spence only managed 12 reps on the bench press.
And is only 5′11.
That doesn’t concern you for a LB?
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id be more worried about a bone density test of his forehead for a linebacker (point to the guy with the ball and tell him GET ME THE BALL )ala the replacements
March 18th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
No more moves until the draft then?
March 18th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Apparently had a deep bone bruise in his shoulder. He says he can do 19 when healthy.
All I know is that the Raiders were looking at him during the Senior Bowl, and his tape suggests he has very solid instincts.
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OK.
Hadn’t heard any of that.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Manning will be coming to the Bay area….write it down!
March 18th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
NOt a terrible crime. Just sounds like Oakland wasn’t going to take him back anywsay.
Wizzer had a season and will have an off season to get up to speed at center and he’ll be a very good one.
Options at Guard. with Breisel coming aboard.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
104. Size of the fight in the dog.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Grant was given an original round tender.
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I don’t know how I missed that. Thanks!
March 18th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Grant was given an original round tender.
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Which was which round? Do you remember. I think it was later rounds. If it was before 4th, we don’t even have a pick to give them if we try to sign him away. If it was 5th or 6th we could do it and give up one of our only draft picks left. Could be worth it, if he’s not too expensive and can get many years, but SFO would probably match anything that was a moderate-to-low contract anyways.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Raiders #2 QB: Vince Evans or Doug Flutie. Make your pick.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Grant was a 6th round pick by the Rams.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
104. Size of the fight in the dog.
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Yeah, Spence reminds me of another Hurricane LB who was undersized but turned out pretty damned good…
Jon Beason. 6′0″
“Some guys are athletes, some guys are big, some guys are mean, he’s a football player.”
I wouldn’t mind me some of ‘dem football players.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
I wonder how Manningham is going to feel in SF in they don’t get Peyton AND Alex Smith walks because hes all feeling “disrespected”. Smith meeting with Seattle? Too funny.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
imaquaman Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
smith would be smart to glue his arse to harbaugh .with out jim he doesnt have the season he did last year.it would be foolish of smith to look for a different home ,i dont know is his contract up or what ?
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I must be the last person on earth who thinks Alex Smith can play Q in the NFL other than Smith himself. The Whiners have absolutely effed him around mercilessly. And here they come again to eff him around after he went 13-3. There is no doubt that Harbaugh did a miraculous job with him, but he is a solid player. Hope he comes to his senses and tells the Whiners to go eff themselves.
March 18th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
I wonder how Manningham is going to feel in SF in they don’t get Peyton AND Alex Smith walks because hes all feeling “disrespected”. Smith meeting with Seattle? Too funny.
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I can hear Trent Baalke on the phone with Manningham right now:
“Look Mario, it’s going to be fine. Sure, we didn’t get Peyton, he played us like a cheap pawnshop fiddle, and that caused the other overall number one Alex to bail, but we got this secret weapon, that no one knows about. This kid Kaepernick we think might be better than BOTH of them COMBINED!! Hold, on I have another call coming in…..Thank God Vinnie Testaverde still has an agent…”
March 18th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I don’t care that Spence is 5′11 and not 6′. I don’t care that he ran a 4.7 40, and I don’t care that he had 12 reps on the bench. Look at his tape.
You want combine freaks, look at B Campbell.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Trent Baalke the Whiners GM talking to Alex Smith last week:
“Look Alex, we did send you over the signature page for the contract, look again, maybe your dog ate it….” laughs….
“Trent, I keep telling you, I got 17 out of 18 pages. Everything but the signature page. I don’t have a dog. Just send over the signature page so I can ink this deal and be done with it.”
“OK, Alex, it’s on it’s way….” more laugher…
March 18th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mason Brodine = Stork 2.0
And that’s why Trevor Scott got the boot.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
I hope Miami offers Smith anything close to what SF offers…the money will go lots further in south Fla.
Unless one expects Smith to play the rest of his career like he did during last year’s regular season, this can be looked at as probably his one “big” Free Agent deal.
SF’s offer didn’t knock him out…and Miami NEEDS a QB. It would be funny-ironic to see SF end up without either of the QB’s it’s courting. So much for the Harbaugh “magic” in that case.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Flynn going to Seattle. It’s a done deal.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Draft OLB Sean Spence from Miami.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
imaquaman Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Spence only managed 12 reps on the bench press.
And is only 5′11.
That doesn’t concern you for a LB?
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id be more worried about a bone density test of his forehead for a linebacker (point to the guy with the ball and tell him GET ME THE BALL )ala the replacements
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Actually — It sounds like excuse-making to me. It’s the middle of the off-season…if he can’t work it now, when can he? I’m not saying he’s not all-that as a player, but why add more question marks than necessary with a young Player? “Maybe” 19 reps when healthy isn’t exactly tearing it up.
A guy could have great football instincts…but if he’s slow, weak, or injury-prone (worse yet, any combination thereof), he’s not anyone we need to spend a precious pick on. It’s not about the money risked in these cases…it’s about the roster spot taken.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Mason Brodine is my MUP for 2012. 6′7 255
March 18th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Oops, wrong cut n’ paste (need some tips from KK, I guess)…
Meant to paste the one about Spence saying he has a bruised shoulder, and can probably do 19-reps if he’s healthy. My question is…how unhealthy is this shoulder, and has anyone seen him officially do 19-reps before?
Draft health!
March 18th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
@126
Ditto.
You can keep your Elephant Back, we got us a genuine “Brodi-saurus Back”.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Draft Football players!!
Spence is a football player and a perfect fit for WLB.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
If he’s healthy.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Bill Williamson of ESPN guesses Raiders will sign Leinart.
Connection to ex-Texans’ coaches, more of a pocket passer similar to Palmer, and Pryor is not ready / may never have accuracy to be ready.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
@129,
If that’s the case, nab Kendricks out of Cal…no injury bug.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Does anybody know if curtis loftonmlb still a fa.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Does anybody know if curtis loftonmlb still a fa.
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Both New Orleans and Atl are after Lofton. Don’t think we have a chance.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Oops, wrong cut n’ paste (need some tips from KK, I guess)…
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How can you have a wrong cut and paste? You copy it, you paste it, you hit submit.
And in those three steps you still posted the wrong one?
You aren’t all that bright, are you?
March 18th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
“Schefter reports that Flynn will sign a three-year deal worth up to $26 million, with $10 million guaranteed. The maximum value of less than $9 million (per year) reflects skepticism regarding Flynn’s ability to get it done as the week-in, week-out starting quarterback. And the “up to” means that the deal includes incentive payments, likely based on whether he plays.”
Solid deal for a possible franchise guy. Better to swing and miss…than to be the Dolphins.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
alex7 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Bill Williamson of ESPN guesses Raiders will sign Leinart.
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Yeah, they read it here three hours ago.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Niners game planned was altered to win in spite of smith. If the Niners lose smith it’s not going to set them back. Worst 3rd down conversions in the league. Worst redzone offense. league record for field goals. That’s all on smith. Harbaugh’s game plan was designed to stay away from smith’s weaknesses, and it almost got the team to the SB.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
alex7 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Bill Williamson of ESPN guesses Raiders will sign Leinart.
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Yeah, they read it here three hours ago.
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Funny stuff. You actually think media reads a blog?
March 18th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Top OLB Picks in the 2012 Draft
1. Danny Trevathan, OLB, Kentucky
2. Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State
3. Brandon Marshall, ILB/OLB, Nevada
4. Nathan Stupar, OLB, Penn State
5. Mychal Kendricks, OLB, California
Give me blue collar types who can shed, tackle and out perform the work out warriors (B. Cambell & Grant Irons…)
March 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Bruce Campbell was a top 5 OT prospect we got in round 4. Not sure why so many folks are rooting against him.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
J Hill Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Are we over looking Alex Parsons at C?
March 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Mark-the-Muppet Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Niners game planned was altered to win in spite of smith. If the Niners lose smith it’s not going to set them back. Worst 3rd down conversions in the league. Worst redzone offense. league record for field goals. That’s all on smith. Harbaugh’s game plan was designed to stay away from smith’s weaknesses, and it almost got the team to the SB.
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I always love this. The Whiners went 13-3 but Smith had nothing to do with it. The Bungholes sucked year in and year out only because of Carson Palmer. So, if a team wins, everyone is to get credit except the Q, but if the team loses, it’s the Q’s fault? OK, I think I get it now..
March 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
J Hill Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Are we over looking Alex Parsons at C?
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I sure hope we are looking for someone! Don’t move Wiz. He was not that good when playing center and was near pro bowl level at guard. I kind of think the OC and HC and GM knows that but wow so many people suggesting that on this board.
March 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Top OLB Picks in the 2012 Draft
1. Danny Trevathan, OLB, Kentucky
2. Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State
3. Brandon Marshall, ILB/OLB, Nevada
4. Nathan Stupar, OLB, Penn State
5. Mychal Kendricks, OLB, California
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If the Raiders can get DE/OLB McClellin I’m all for it. Not sure if he will be available though, but what a pick up that would be.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
J Hill
I just noticed Alex Parsons is on our roster. Do you know anything about him?
March 18th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I gotta agree with keeping Wiz at LG. Just like last season he could slide over to center if needed.
Solid guard and Back up Center.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Lot of late round picks in that group.
We’d be instantly upgraded by drafting any two of the above.
I am all for B. Cambell to earn a spot on the team, he just epoitomie of an Al Davis pick (i.e., great measurables).
And “NO” to Shanwte Spencer and Abreu Franklin.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Raiders should bring in Vince Young.
VY > CP tree trunk INT machine
March 18th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Here is some info. Not sure how he fits or how well he plays center. I guess by default he is our starting center for now. Apparently he plays any position along the line – see below:
UDRFA RG Alex Parsons – USC Signs With The Oakland Raiders
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 24, 2010 6:22 PM PDT
13 COMMENTS EMAIL PRINT
The Oakland Raiders surprised many in the Raider Nation by not drafting a Guard in the draft. While they continued to take DBs they did not take a guard.
I just found out that Alex Parsons – RG – USC has signed with the Oakland Raiders.
Parsons can play any position on the Offensive Line and many in Oakland are hoping that he can push Cooper Carlisle right away.
He also has experience on Special Teams, which will work in his favor. At 6-4 309, he projects as a good fit for Tom Cable’s zone blocking scheme. He is probably also a favorite of Al’s as he runs a consistent 4.93 40. He was projected to go in the 7th round in this deep draft and I am happy that he is aboard.
From CBS:
04/02/2010 – PRO DAY RESULTS: USC had no shortage of elite prospects at its pro day on Wednesday outdoors on FieldTurf. All 32 teams had representatives in attendance, including Panthers coach John Fox and mutliple offensive and defensive coordinators. G Alex Parsons (6-3 1/2, 305) had a 4.93-average 40, a 26 1/2-inch vertical, an 8-10 broad jump, a 4.55 short shuttle, a 7.67 three-cone drill and 25 bench press reps. – Gil Brandt, NFL.com
This UDRFA signing period has been amazing so far and it continues to get better.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Get that Leinart talk out here. VY is way better than Leinart
March 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RaidO Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Raiders should bring in Vince Young.
VY > CP tree trunk INT machine
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Career Leader in throwing INT’s among active players: Peyton Manning. No one seems to have a problem with him……
March 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
So looks like oline, back up qb, cb depth have been addressed in free agency, I see McKenzie wants to pick his linebackers and d lineman in the draft the heart of our defence. If he can at least one sleeper out of the few picks we have I’ll be satisfied but I like the direction we are going.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RaidO Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Raiders should bring in Vince Young.
VY > CP tree trunk INT machine
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Career Leader in throwing INT’s among active players: Peyton Manning. No one seems to have a problem with him……
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STOP the overrating:
Carson Palmer:
62.9%, 22694y, 154tds, 100ints, 86.9r, 4.8td%, 3.1int%
46-51 (.474), 0-2 (.000)
Aaron Brooks:
56.5%, 20261y, 123tds, 92ints, 78.5r, 4.2td%, 3.1int%
38-52(.422), 1-1 (.500)
March 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
ohioraider Says:
You subscribe to the Great Men theory of history, which elevates flawed human beings into living deities. Most great leaders benefit to one degree or another from luck and timing, and Al certainly took advantage of both–embellished by his own brand of ruthlessness, which I don’t necessarily begrudge him given what he accomplished from 1963 to around 1985. To me, it was probably justified and put a modest industrial city on the map and, what’s more, created the merged NFL as we know it today.
But your view of history tends to obscure/paper over/forgive flaws, even the most egregious ones that many great leaders ultimately succumb to.
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Wrong again, Ohio Player — I don’t obscure or forgive Al’s flaws. I never considered Al a deity…just a super-bright mind, who put himself in position to have a major impact in all of our lives. Like it or not, as fans, he was something special in our lives, even if he was “just” a man.
I never simply agreed with Al’s choices; I have my own mind on personnel issues…and also on PR issues, many of which I would’ve handled differently.
But, it never mattered that much to me that Al’s way didn’t always work-out…because I knew he was always trying the best way he knew how. I rode all the Raiders’ glories, and survived all their downfalls along the way. And, I “blame” Al for all of it, ultimately.
Flawed he was, but I never once wavered in my belief that Al had the right to do what he did with HIS own Team…mainly because I believe I would’ve done much the same thing if I owned a Team (although, I’d have GM help — I like to party on yachts too much).
Al was flawed…and his enemies will tell you that. So will his friends. Somehow, I managed to stay a fan of his, and of the Raiders through it all.
Al’s Organization was never ruined, although it was in disarray at times. Most of his Players will be on the next winning Raiders team…that magic mixture is a hard one to find sometimes. Especially if you blow it with big $$ contracts too many times, as Al did late.
Nobody made any of us in here STAY a fan. Once we become adults, we can decide which Teams to follow/spend money on. Nobody makes someone else spend money on merchandise, just so they can complain more about their Team or Owner. I find it funny (sad) how some people will come on here just to point out Al’s faults…and never any good stuff. And the guy isn’t even around anymore.
A tough salary cap year, and then the Raiders’ books can compare to most any other team’s…the sky has not fallen, and will not fall, because of Al’s contracts. It never would have.
Maybe it wasn’t the transition we all would have liked to see…but thanks to Al, the Team is in solid hands with a GM who will (hopefully) have great success along the way, just like Al. He’ll also make some bad mistakes, just like Al. And I’ll be with him all the way, just like Al. Flaws and all.
Just Loyalty, Baby.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I just noticed Alex Parsons is on our roster. Do you know anything about him?
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Parons was on the PS. last season.
According to the USC site he was listed as OG/C.
He was moved from DE.
The site also says he can play any position on the O-Line.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Vy is not a good influence for tp plus vy is a has been, I like Palmer with Ty as back up, were is Jimmy clausen at .
March 18th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Flynn just signed with Seattle;
Could have major impact on both San Francisco and our Raiders:
Miami needs a qb, could sign Smith leaving SF potentially w/o a qb other than Kaepernick;
or
Reggie could offer Miami, Pryor for a high draft choice or two.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Clausen still Newton’s back up.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Could be a risky move by Seahawks. Was Flynn beneficiary of great team mates and system or is he good? If Seahwaks are smart, they’ll play to his strengths rather than force a new system.
Could be a solid grab or the next Kolb
March 18th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
156. His name sounds familiar. He may have been with us b4?
March 18th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RaidO
being you don’t seem to know, a 7% difference in completion percentage is rather huge for a QB.
An 8.5 difference in QB rating is also meaningful.
The fact one guy is still playing and will add to the gaps in cumulative stats is also meaningful.
One guy making the Pro Bowl and leading the league in completion % and TDs is also meaningful.
Terrible, dumb comparison.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Flynn just signed with Seattle;
Could have major impact on both San Francisco and our Raiders:
Miami needs a qb, could sign Smith leaving SF potentially w/o a qb other than Kaepernick;
or
Reggie could offer Miami, Pryor for a high draft choice or two.
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Reggie should offer Palmer the Overrated over priced QB. Then maybe Raiders could get a draft pick or other positions needed.
It looks like a rebuilding year anyways rather see what TP can do then watch Palmer try to do roll outs or bootlegs and throw a boat load of INTS.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RR
Miami didn’t want to invest a top-4-rounds pick in Pryor a year ago. They wouldn’t invest a high pick now.
Remember, there might be NO other team in the NFL that views Pryor as a legit QB prospect.
Certainly no more than Brad Smith or Pat White.
March 18th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Sorry but Smith shouild bolt the first chance he gets! Harbaugh is not the only coach that can coach him. they forget that T.Ginn Jr. was getting them to and accross mid field most of their big drives and the turn overs! but Condon holding a deal with one client and persuing another for more money from the same suitor is like insider trading! What % of 24 mil for Smith vs 90 mil for Manning to an agent?
March 18th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
156. His name sounds familiar. He may have been with us b4?
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Naw, he was a rookie last year (i think) and on the PS.
6′-4″ 300#
March 18th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Harbaugh IS the only coach that can coach up Alex Smith. At least in the last 7 years, that is true.
As for Leinart, he’s certainly as good or a better backup than:
Caleb Hanie, Tyrod Taylor, Tyler Palko, Seneca Wallace, Chase Daniels, Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Batch, Jon Beck, Charlie Whitehurst, Curtis Painter, Jimmy Clausen…
March 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
I would take Charlie Batch over Leinart in a New York
minute.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Reggie should offer Palmer the Overrated over priced QB. Then maybe Raiders could get a draft pick or other positions needed.
It looks like a rebuilding year anyways rather see what TP can do then watch Palmer try to do roll outs or bootlegs and throw a boat load of INTS
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You should save this and post it again in a couple of weeks. It would make a great April Fool’s joke.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
If Mckenzie/Allen can get this team into division lead or maintain that pace, much credit to them both and their staff given what they got lumped with etc.
But if the season goes south early, it is a process of rebuilding, so should expect taking 2 steps back in 2012, then I’m not opposed to trading Palmer and recoup some picks and let Pryor show what his got (proviso that he has put in the work, is serious etc).
March 18th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I’d take Bruce Gradkowski back, over Leinart any day. Believe it or not, he’s got a stronger arm. And…guys rally behind him.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Btw, McKenzie moving all of Palmer’s money into 2012, indicative Palmer will the man in 2012, but can and will be cut/traded for little cap hit in 2013/etc. Looking at Pryor being groomed if he can rise, or another QB in 2013.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Sorry for the off the topic question, but does anyone in here watch The Walking Dead? Great episode coming up tonight.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Just my opinion but aside from Mannings supposed unwillingness to want to play in the NFC because of his brother, the 49ers are looking like a “real” contender for a trip to the super bowl.
They just signed Manningham, have the entire D coming back, and he could be (barring injury) the missing piece that they need. If he goes to Dungver on the other hand, that would be fine with me. If you are scared as a fan to want to play him, that is weak!
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The Niners are about to have that warm, wet and uncomfortable feelings akin to dropping a load in one’s pants when Alex Smith signs with Miami and PM signs with Denver.
So close and yet so very far!
Careful where you sit Niners fan! I can just hear the “squishiness” now.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Walking dead yeah baby!
March 18th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
It’s ignorant to state that because an owner has the right to make really really really stupid decisions, that you will back that owner on whatever he does.
That is the sign of a very weak man.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
If manning turns down sf he would be a fool.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Manning is making decision tomorrow.
Hard to imagine Smith making decision with Mi prior to Mannings decision tomorrow. Smith loves playing for Harb and niners. Took less money to stay with niners in recent past.
If niners lose both qb’s, they’re back in the pack.
If niners keep smith, they are huge contenders.
If niners get manning? No team matches up to them.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Dakota Says:–
March 18th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
If manning turns down sf he would be a fool.
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Agree.
Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Randy Moss, and now Monningham to throw to? All starters on the #1 defense returning? Top special team returning intact, and actually stronger? Gore in backfield?
Peyton has wha? 2-3 yrs, tops?
No other team gives him the chance to go deep in playoffs, now, better than niners.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
173.EMRaiders Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Sorry for the off the topic question, but does anyone in here watch The Walking Dead? Great episode coming up tonight.
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Season finale is tonight. I love Shameless too, that’s on tonight as well.
March 18th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
GG Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Btw, McKenzie moving all of Palmer’s money into 2012, indicative Palmer will the man in 2012, but can and will be cut/traded for little cap hit in 2013/etc. Looking at Pryor being groomed if he can rise, or another QB in 2013.
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Thats simply not true. If we saved 6 million this year (or whatever the figure is) and cut him after next year, we lose not only the salary due, but the entire 6 mill of cap space, minus one year (depending on how many years they extended it out).
CP is the Raiders starting QB for two more years. Minimum.
March 18th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Anyone see the article at PFT about veteran RB’s in low demand?
Come on back Mike!!!! You’re more than welcome.
March 18th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
CP is the Raiders starting QB for two more years. Minimum.
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If not, McK is a moron for restructuring. He toed the line with Seymour already…
March 18th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
117 i dont think i made my self clear ,i didnt mean to say he cant play .i just think it would be in his best interest to keep learning under harbaugh .he came a long way in one season give him 2 or 3 and see how he does .i just dont think he is done learning yet ,thats also how i felt about jason campbell i wish we could have played a couple more years .i think he was just starting to evolve to the next level,its a shame how things work sometimes
March 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Gdog…
we already paid Palmer everything up front in 2012, we moved the cap hit off the future years. He gets like most of it this year, and is only costing about $900k (vet minimum) in 2013 and 2014.
as far as i’m aware from a pft article on it.
March 18th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
i think palmer redid his deal for mckenzie im not sure how it works either
March 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Ok should do some actual research…
Carson Palmer
10/18/2011: Signed a four-year, $43 million contract. The deal contains $7.5 million guaranteed, including all of Palmer’s first-year salary and $5 million of Palmer’s second-year salary. 2012: $825,000 (+ $11.675 million “signing” bonus), 2013: $13 million, 2014: $15 million, 2015-2016: Voidable Years, 2017: Free Agent
March 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Trying to make sense of that…
2012: $7.5M guaranteed cap hit (consisting of base salary for 2012 of $825K + $5M of the 2013 salary.
Not sure how the $11M “signing” bonus affects the cap there in 2012, if it’s guaranteed.
2013: $5M of the $13M already paid, so another $2.5M guaranteed against the cap, which includes $900K (vet minimum + bonuses ($5.5m) not guaranteed from PFT article).
2014: $15M on the table as base salary ($900k vet minimum + bonuses ($14m) not guaranteed from PFT)
??
March 18th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
When did we get back up QB Rhett Bomar??
March 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
187
Ok should do some actual research…
Carson Palmer
10/18/2011: Signed a four-year, $43 million contract. The deal contains $7.5 million guaranteed, including all of Palmer’s first-year salary and $5 million of Palmer’s second-year salary. 2012: $825,000 (+ $11.675 million “signing” bonus), 2013: $13 million, 2014: $15 million, 2015-2016: Voidable Years, 2017: Free Agent
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wow wow that contract is almost rude to the rest of the team ,no wonder campbell was butt hurt
March 18th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
01/06/2012 Signed QB Rhett Bomar, DE Hall Davis, DB Curtis Taylor to reserve/future contract
01/03/2012 Signed DT Jamie Cumbie, OL Zach Hurd, DE Carl Ihenacho, NT Travis Ivey, DB Terrail Lambert, WR Eddie McGee, RB Lonyae Miller, and G Alex Parsons to reserve/future contract
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I’m sure it was done while Hue was here.
March 18th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Here’s a link to the restructuring of Palmers deal for you guys:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/Report-Palmer-saves-Raiders-934-million?blockID=666464&feedID=2801
Oakland Raiders saved $9.34 million against the salary cap after QB Carson Palmer agreed to restructure his contract Thursday, March 8. Palmer had his base salary in 2012 reduced from $12.5 million to the nine-year veteran minimum of $825,000.
March 18th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
McKenzie is responsible for grabbing Bomar, Jackson, Davis, Taylor and Underwood. Some of those other guys were signed post AD and not sure who was calling the shots.
March 18th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Something to keep in mind when drawing up the Raider roster, you can only suit up 46 on game day.
March 18th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Satele was arrested at 4 a.m. in an area popular having many late-night restaurants and bars, according to the Advertiser story.
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The lesson learned here, again is:
Liquor + 4:00a.m. = Arrested for disorderly conduct (or worse) damn near every time…
March 18th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Smith should sign with Miami, while he can get bigger dollars; should SF sign Manning, then Miami can lower their offer to Alex.
Of course if Peyton signs with Denver or Tennessee then cya ching
March 18th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I don’t think Reggie even has 46 players under contract yet, not that I’m complaining; I agree with the house cleaning
March 18th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Vittorio Tafur @VittorioTafur
Cornerback Tracy Porter is expected to come in for a visit with the #Raiders in the next couple of days, a league source said.
March 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
173.EMRaiders Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Sorry for the off the topic question, but does anyone in here watch The Walking Dead? Great episode coming up tonight.
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Season finale is tonight. I love Shameless too, that’s on tonight as well.
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I’m catching up now. Just watched the first season, and first episode of 2nd season. I’ve read the entire comic book series. It is just as good as the show.
March 18th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
I think I saw Al in one of the Walking Dead episodes.
March 18th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Thats good Porter is coming for a visit hope he gets a contract him with bartell is a good cb tandem. Also have chekwa and DVD not a bad set of CB
March 18th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Don’t forget Underwood, could be a sleeper.
March 18th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Vittorio Tafur
Porter may choose between the #Raiders and returning to the #Saints. He visited with the Bengals (as did Aaron Ross) but Cin. signed former Texans CB Jason Allen today instead. Porter is 25 but has had injuries to his knee (twice) and to his wrist and calf. He played for new Raiders coach Dennis Allen when Allen was his DB coach in NO
March 18th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Vittorio Tafur
One more thing on Porter: there were reports that Ross’ and Jason Allen’s visits with Bengals went well, but no such word on Porter’s. He recently told N.O. Times-Picayune that he is “100 percent healthy” … but then again what else is he going to say? The Raiders last week were not afraid of players with checkered injury histories
March 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Porter ‘will’ sign. Visiting means he’s interested, played with Allen before, McKenzie wont let him leave without his signature.
If we can score Porter as well, the new regime is impressing.
March 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Vittorio Tafur
While I guessed the Raiders would sign QB Matt Leinart the day the Texans cut him, I haven’t been able to confirm their interest. He played for new offensive coordinator (then QB coach) Greg Knapp last year and is currently working out with Raiders starter (and fellow USC-er) Carson Palmer in Los Angeles
March 18th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
McKenzie is responsible for grabbing Bomar, Jackson, Davis, Taylor and Underwood. Some of those other guys were signed post AD and not sure who was calling the shots
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Underwood was signed by Reg, he is not on that list. look at the date stamp. (post #191) Hue was still the HC. The info is from Raiders.com
You are correct in saying that they are all post AD. (RIP)
March 18th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Even safety is not our weakest set, I’m still hoping we sign Landry as well as Giordano, we would be solid and deep at safety.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Hey Dazed, you didn’t prove me wrong at all. All you underscored was that you place loyalty over rationality, which of course is the definition of fanaticism. So you’re a fanatic, that’s cool by me. But you didn’t disprove one thing I pointed out–namely, that by his boneheaded miscalculations in past two decades Al managed to disgrace his own legacy and self-sabotage the very empire he had labored to erect. The record stands for itself. His diminished reputation across the league stands for itself. As does the rather meager value of the franchise itself. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay, Indianapolis, etc., all created new models for success that far eclipsed Al’s hubristic one man does it all style that has proven to be nearly catastrophic to the team’s fortunes. You can prop him up all you want, but in the end Al committed the most cowardly of sins: he didn’t know when to exit stage left.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
per Tafur:
Former Texans tight end Joel Dreessen could also be in for a visit with Raiders soon. He visited with Saints today and his agent told Fox 26 in Houston that the Raiders and Bengals are also interested. Oakland cut starter Kevin Boss and currently has Brandon Myers, David Ausberry and Richard Gordon at tight end
March 18th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I like bringing Dreesen for a test drive. We aren’t really established with a TE and he’s a good blocker and has flashed some talent receiving the ball when Owen Daniels was out with injuries. He’s someone who could easily push Myers off the roster.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Free agent center Satele arrested There has been little buzz about the possibility of the Raiders re-signing unrestricted free agent center Samson Satele, even though he’s started 42 games in three years since being acquired from the Miami Dolphins. [...]
March 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
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The other QB options still out there for #Raiders are Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, Josh Johnson & Jon Kitna. … Yes Jeff Garcia, you too
March 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Joel Dreessen and Tracy Porter visiting in the next few days.
Things might be looking up if team can land these guys.
Both will help team install new systems on both sides of the ball.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
#209,
Your doing a wonderful job of tearing down the recently deceased owner of a football franchise.
Feel better?
I’m sure you’re a much better person than Al Davis and have built a much more lucrative empire than he has.
Actually the more cowardly of sins is not even trying. I would say not knowing when to quit trying would last on the list and hardly qualifies as “cowardly”.
What’s next on the agenda for tonight? Tearing the legs off grasshoppers?
March 18th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
GG Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Gdog…
we already paid Palmer everything up front in 2012, we moved the cap hit off the future years. He gets like most of it this year, and is only costing about $900k (vet minimum) in 2013 and 2014.
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We saved 9 million from this years cap by transferring it to future earnings. If we dump him after next season, the cap savings gets accelerated, thus if it was a four year extension, 6.75 million gets tacked on to next years cap.
He is staying a MINIMUM of two years, prolly three.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
The knee injuries have to concern you with Porter. But he’s only 25, and ran a 4.37 combine. Former 2nd round pick of the Saints in 08 and great connection with Dennis Allen. We may have to nurse him to health, but if his knees are structurally sound, he could be a real find this late in free agency.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
You can prop him up all you want, but in the end Al committed the most cowardly of sins: he didn’t know when to exit stage left.
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I feel your pain, so does every Raider fan out there.
But…Al wanted to win “NOW” his way.
Al knew his health was deteriorating. He had a plan, hand over the keys to Fox and Madden and get this team a GM.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
What happened to Porter’s knees? ACL, MCL, or PCL tears? Microfacture surgery?
March 18th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Ohio — Glad you responded. I wasn’t trying to prove you wrong. You just happen to be wrong about Al’s legacy. It’s what each person perceives it to be…not what you insist it to be. Some of us prefer to look at the whole package…and value it as a whole, not just a quarter of it.
Al focked up. Yeah…so?? Just because I was a fan of The Man, it doesn’t mean I can’t recognize when he stumbled. If you weren’t a fan of something he did, you’d have left a long time ago. Just because he’s gone, it doesn’t mean I won’t be just as loyal to the Raiders, and their management, as I ever was.
It’s not just loyalty to Al, it’s loyalty to the Team…even when they/it/the GM/the Owner fock up. Not blind. Just loyal. The kind of guy you want on your side when SHTF.
We’ll never agree on Al…no biggie. More important things in life. Nice chatting with you.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
per Tafur:
Former Texans tight end Joel Dreessen could also be in for a visit with Raiders soon. He visited with Saints today and his agent told Fox 26 in Houston that the Raiders and Bengals are also interested. Oakland cut starter Kevin Boss and currently has Brandon Myers, David Ausberry and Richard Gordon at tight end
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Dressen is also the long snapper, could it be that we cut the roster spot killa-Condo.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Not worried about Palmer staying 3 more years, still younger than Brees and no one is saying anything about his age. Still much younger than Peyton and again no one is saying anything about his age, even with his injuries. Palmer hasn’t proven he belongs with those guys, but the talent is there. It’s the age thing that I don’t understand….
Age isn’t anything but a number.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
In very simple terms, to save 9 mill this year, we transferred 2.25 mill on CP’s contract over the next 4 years. So we add an extra 2.5 million to whatever his salary is next year.
Its no big deal as long as he keeps playing for us. It becomes a HUGE deal if he doesn’t… thats how we got in cap hell after the SB year. All our veterans either retired, went to other teams, or had their neck snapped… and they were still under contract.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
per Vittorio Tafur
Former Texans guard Mike Brisiel told Houston Chronicle why he signed with #Raiders Friday: “Just the familiarity of the scheme, it’s definitely a positive,” Brisiel said. “We’re in position right now to compete in this (AFC West) division, and I’m super excited.” Houston did re-sign center Chris Myers after losing Brisiel to Raiders & T Eric Winston to Chiefs
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Welcome to Raider Nation Brisiel.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/low-demand-for-veteran-running-backs/
Looks like we may get Bush back eventhough I was starting to like the idea of drafting Turbin from Ut St.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Best case scenario:
Peyton signs with Denver, (no weapons, can’t run not concerned);
Alex signs with Miami;
San Francisco has no qb,
Trade a first and Willis to the Raiders for Palmer,
Denver cuts Tebow
Raiders sign Tebow
Raiders use Tebow, Pryor, McFadden, Reece, Moore, and Ford in new offense that teams can’t stop,
Raiders once again become the mavericks of the NFL!
March 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Gdog Says:
In very simple terms, to save 9 mill this year, we transferred 2.25 mill on CP’s contract over the next 4 years. So we add an extra 2.5 million to whatever his salary is next year.
Its no big deal as long as he keeps playing for us. It becomes a HUGE deal if he doesn’t… thats how we got in cap hell after the SB year. All our veterans either retired, went to other teams, or had their neck snapped… and they were still under contract.
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Hmmm — So let’s get this straight…
ReggieMcK did exactly what Al would do to keep/sign an extremely talented Player with a lot of potential, while freeing-up Cap space.
What a disaster!
Welcome to life as a GM in the NFL.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Not worried about Palmer staying 3 more years, still younger than Brees and no one is saying anything about his age.
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Having a top-12 QB that has the ability to be one of the best QB’s in the league is the furthest thing to a problem we have. And I doubt that will change three years from now.
The main problem we had throughout most of the decade long skid was having a bottom 12 QB, with nearly no ability to be the best.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Tebow a Raider?
Tebow??
Pffft.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
One good that may have come from the previous workout with the Bengals that didn’t go so well. If it’s between returning to the Saints or signing with the Raiders, the lack of suitors will drive down his going rate some. Reggie Mac should be able to get him on the cheap.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Hmmm — So let’s get this straight…
ReggieMcK did exactly what Al would do to keep/sign an extremely talented Player with a lot of potential, while freeing-up Cap space.
What a disaster!
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Thats not my point at all.
The point is CP is most likely our QB for the next three years.
If not, McK made a huge mistake in restructuring.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Best case scenario:
Peyton signs with Denver, (no weapons, can’t run not concerned);
Alex signs with Miami;
San Francisco has no qb,
Trade a first and Willis to the Raiders for Palmer,
Denver cuts Tebow
Raiders sign Tebow
Raiders use Tebow, Pryor, McFadden, Reece, Moore, and Ford in new offense that teams can’t stop,
Raiders once again become the mavericks of the NFL!
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No! Tebow is garbage, TP and Tebow have the same skill set why spend money and a roster spot for someone with the same skill set.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
228. well said.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Just a little sarcasm there, G.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Purdue vs KU turning into a great ending…
March 18th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Just a little sarcasm there, G.
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Ahh got it.
March 18th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
230.guest123 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
One good that may have come from the previous workout with the Bengals that didn’t go so well. If it’s between returning to the Saints or signing with the Raiders, the lack of suitors will drive down his going rate some. Reggie Mac should be able to get him on the cheap.
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Porter is from Louisiana and wants to stay with the saints so I think there are only 2 things that determine whether or not he becomes a Raider. Do they want him back and will Reggie offer him enough loot?
I bet they are willing to let him walk after contracts given to Grubbs, Colston & Brees still unsigned. They have 2nd year corner Patrick Robinson, veteran Jabari Greer and also drafted a CB in the 3rd round last year.
March 18th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
I’m gonna guess a 2 yr/8-9mil or 3yr/13mil deal could net him.
March 18th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Then Reggie let’s get it done!!!!! Sign Porter!!!!
March 18th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Apparently Manning has chosen Broncos. No official word yet.
March 18th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Where did u hear that at???
March 18th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
According to Incarcerated Bob on Twitter.
But then there’s this on Twitter too…
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow
#NFL Agent just told me he “knows for certain” #Peyton #Manning is going to be a #49er …take it w/ grain of salt but the belief is there
At this rate, it’ll be Titans where he ends up.
March 18th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
This just in,
Peyton Manning is an arrogant, overhyped, d-bag, no matter who he sign with.
More on the evening news tonight.
March 18th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
*signs
March 18th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I bet the Polians are thinking “Man, I’m glad we’re going to suck next year.”
March 18th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
alex7 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RaidO
Terrible, dumb comparison.
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Or RaidO, just plain dumb.
March 18th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
GG Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
According to Incarcerated Bob on Twitter.
But then there’s this on Twitter too…
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow
#NFL Agent just told me he “knows for certain” #Peyton #Manning is going to be a #49er …take it w/ grain of salt but the belief is there
At this rate, it’ll be Titans where he ends up.
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He ain’t going to the Whiners. He’s playing the Whiners badly. Right now if Alex Smith has ANYTHING on the ball he should realize to RUN from the Whiners and Eff them!
March 18th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
209.ohioraider Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Hey Dazed, you didn’t prove me wrong at all. All you underscored was that you place loyalty over rationality, which of course is the definition of fanaticism. So you’re a fanatic, that’s cool by me. But you didn’t disprove one thing I pointed out–namely, that by his boneheaded miscalculations in past two decades Al managed to disgrace his own legacy and self-sabotage the very empire he had labored to erect. The record stands for itself. His diminished reputation across the league stands for itself. As does the rather meager value of the franchise itself. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay, Indianapolis, etc., all created new models for success that far eclipsed Al’s hubristic one man does it all style that has proven to be nearly catastrophic to the team’s fortunes. You can prop him up all you want, but in the end Al committed the most cowardly of sins: he didn’t know when to exit stage left.
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So, “the most cowardly of sins” if not knowing when to quit?
How the hell is that being a “coward”?
You can say many things about Al; and you have, but “coward”?
Stubborn, made alot of poor decisions…ok, but not “coward”.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RAIDERS 2012=NEW REGGIME+TOUGH SCHEDULE-$$$ALARIES=GOODBYE OVERPAID+YOUNG COACHES+?NEW PLAYERS?= BARTELL=BEAST+HOLDOVERS=HOLES+ BRISIEL=TOUGH+ WHO WHAT HOLES PRIORITY 2 $$$$$FILL$$+COACH EM UP=FREE +TEAMWORK=FREE=?PLACE AFC WEST/ HOW AFC WEST/ WHO AFC WEST= WHO PLAYOFFS/////////////////SUPER BOWL WHEN RAIDERS
RAIDERS 2012 AFC WEST FIRST THINGS FIRST
March 18th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
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He ain’t going to the Whiners. He’s playing the Whiners badly. Right now if Alex Smith has ANYTHING on the ball he should realize to RUN from the Whiners and Eff them!
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I hope Alex Smith does go to the Dolphins.
I’m thinking he might be one of those guys that isn’t too happy that they’re going after Manning so hard. He may say it has nothing to do with it, or that he “understands” etc. but he was a # 1 draft choice who fashions himself as an “elite” QB (cue laff track) but i’ sure this Manning stuff stings a bit especially after the games he had in the playoffs; and let’s be honest, he did play well.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
249.alzadoX Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RAIDERS 2012=NEW REGGIME+TOUGH SCHEDULE-$$$ALARIES=GOODBYE OVERPAID+YOUNG COACHES+?NEW PLAYERS?= BARTELL=BEAST+HOLDOVERS=HOLES+ BRISIEL=TOUGH+ WHO WHAT HOLES PRIORITY 2 $$$$$FILL$$+COACH EM UP=FREE +TEAMWORK=FREE=?PLACE AFC WEST/ HOW AFC WEST/ WHO AFC WEST= WHO PLAYOFFS/////////////////SUPER BOWL WHEN RAIDERS
RAIDERS 2012 AFC WEST FIRST THINGS FIRST
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I can’t see a time when we can ever say we have an “easy” schedule.
Every schedule is tough in the NFL, although they seem to finangle it to where even the “easy” teams are a tuff match for Raiders.
I just picture the schedule makers conspiring- “Ok. We have Oakland having to play a 5-11 Denver team, and a poor Buffalo team but how can we make it as tuff as possible? I got it. Let’s have ‘em play AT Denver on opening night. Denver is always tuff at home and especially on MNF. Then…let’s make ‘em travel to the east coast to play Buffalo for an early game on a short week. Haha. We have to give ‘em some home games so let’s follow those up with the team that was in the AFC Championship game in the Jets and then give ‘em New England. That’ll take away that home field advantage, ha. Shoot, they’ll be 1-3 at best and out of it by week 5. Hahahahaha.”
March 18th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
PLENTY RAIDERS 2 DISCUSS HUE CARES WHINERS
March 18th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
ugh i hate the 49er’s, now i’ll have to listen to them preach bout how there going to the superbowl#LAME#
March 18th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
DJ Johnny Says: RAIDERS 2012=ALREADY DEAD / CONSPIRACY
March 18th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
March 18th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Raiderboi18 Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
ugh i hate the 49er’s, now i’ll have to listen to them preach bout how there going to the superbowl#LAME#
NINERS ALREADY TOO MANY SUPER BOWL = TIME FOR RAIDERS TO START CATCHING UP
March 18th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
but he was a # 1 draft choice who fashions himself as an “elite” QB (cue laff track)
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Hey, he was 13-3 last year. By Mistic’s flawed logic, he’s an all star pro bowl QB heading for the Hall of Fame.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
I’m guessing Manning signs with the Titans. Bud Adams wants to give him a “lifetime” deal.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
254.alzadoX Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
DJ Johnny Says: RAIDERS 2012=ALREADY DEAD / CONSPIRACY
March 18th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
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No. I was talking about how the league makes it as tuff as possible with the scheduling.
I was referring to last season on how the schedule was laid out.
Yes. I am a conspiracy theorist but also an eternal optimist. I made a post predicting 12-4 for us this yr.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Though Campbell would end up in Seattle, but they got a much better QB in Flynn. Smart move.
March 18th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
WE DON’T NEED 2 WORRY BOUT HIM HUE CARES UNLESS HE WANTS TO PLAY 4 RAIDERS FOR CHEAP AS BACKUP
March 18th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
*Thought
March 18th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RAIDER FANS SAY HATE NINERS CAN’T GET THEM OFF MIND
March 18th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
RAIDERS: WHO GETS CUT NEXT?
March 18th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RAIDER NATION
GET YOUR MIND OUT OF 40-WINO GUTTER
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Only three of the top 20 or so LBs available have been signed — Mario Williams, Jarret Johnson and Bryan Thomas
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The Raiders need to replace linebacker Kamerion Wimbley and if they may have to wait for the market price on second-tier guys to be set
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Jarvis Moss has tweeted that he doesn’t think he will be returning to the fold, so add backup defensive end to the list of Raiders needs.
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March 18th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
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Any NFL team will dump a player in favor of a better one. Get over it. As HRoth told Michael Corleone, `This is the business we’ve chosen.’
March 18th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Bunkley makes things easier for the Broncos Pass rushing tandem of Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil. In fact, Elvis has spoken.
“We haven’t had a guy like that, not since I’ve been here. He’s been like a monster in there.”
At least one AFC personnel director believes Brodrick Bunkley is the best 4-3 nose tackle available in free agency.
The 4-3 nose position is different from the 3-4 nose. 4-3 NTs are ordinarily lighter and expected to rush the passer more. “He’s got some talent,” the AFC exec said of Bunkley. “He can get up the field and be that penetrator.” Other potential 4-3 nose tackles on the market include Pat Sims (Bengals), Luis Castillo (Chargers), Trevor Laws (Eagles), and Cory Redding (Ravens). Mar 12 – 12:27 PM
March 18th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
RAIDER NATION DU WE NEED 4-3 NT? 3-4 NT? ALL OF ABOVE DOUBLE AT DT? RUN STUFFER? PRIORITY? $$$$$$$$$$????????????????
March 18th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
I’m sure it was Bartell who wanted the contract for only 1 year. He wants a raise once he proves he’s healthy
and when he goes ALL BEAST on Malcolm Floyd, locks down Dwayne Bowe, and busts Tim Tebow’s face, Raider Nation will be happy to pay up
March 18th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Bookend tackle is critical to OL, and overall offense, success. Last year there were too many penalties but the sacks were low and running game strong. The intense competition in training camp brought out the best in some questionable talent to fill in around the two studs
March 18th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Less than two weeks ago, there was optimism in Minnesota that free agent linebacker Erin Henderson would get a deal done with the Vikings before the start of free agency. But now that we’re four days into free agency and no deal is close, Henderson is getting upset.
Henderson vented on Twitter about what he perceives as a lack of respect from the Vikings, as shown by the lack of an offer that he thinks is acceptable. And when a fan told Henderson he’s not worth a big-money deal, Henderson went off.
“I’ve watched every single 1 of my games from last [year] 10 [times] over. I know what I’m worth,” Henderson wrote, via 1500ESPN.com. “Not to mention they [have not] even give me an offer. I don’t come to [your] job and tell [you] what you [should and shouldn't] make. So how can [you] say what I’m worth?”
Henderson said he’s surprised the Vikings haven’t agreed to pay what he thinks he’s worth.
“Whats crazy is I’m not even asking for big money,” Henderson wrote. “All I want is respectable money for what I’m asked to do.”
And Henderson even suggested that he’d quit football entirely before he’d play for less than he thinks he’s worth.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
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March 18th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RAIDERS NO CUTS IN 2 DAYS
March 18th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
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Raiders fans seem interested in former 49ers linebacker Manny Lawson and former Raven Jameel McClain, but if…
March 18th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
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Re. Wimbley: If had stayed on roster would have got 22.5 mil from Raiders minimum including 2011. Bills Mario Williams got 24.9 guarantd.
March 18th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
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Free agent Jo-Lonn Dunbar played strong-side and middle linebacker for the Saints, just turned 27 and the Raiders…
March 18th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Saints broke need to sign Brees ?
Saints letting other teams buy their trash cheap?
March 19th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Saints broke need to sign Brees ?
Saints letting other teams carry away their trash for $$$$$+2013 compensatory picks to Saints?
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March 19th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Mike Triplett, The Times-Picayune
New Orleans Saints free agent cornerback Tracy Porter is expected to visit the Oakland Raiders “in the next couple of days,” according to the San Francisco Chronicle’s Vittorio Tafur. Porter previously visited the Cincinnati Bengals.
The market has been slow for Porter so far, which is kind of surprising. Although his production dipped over the last two years and he has had a history of minor injuries, Porter is still just 25 years old. And he has played in some big-time games, including his heroics in the Super Bowl and NFC championship game two years ago. Porter has always been a confident cover man, and he rarely gets “burned” in coverage. His inconsistency has been more about missed tackles and a lack of interceptions.
Porter said before free agency started that the Saints had expressed interest in keeping him but hadn’t offered a contract. Perhaps he’ll wind up staying in New Orleans if he doesn’t find a bigger deal on the open market.
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Nice move
March 19th, 2012 at 12:49 am
#278 Violent Hands thanks for info. Porter sounds like he has some clutch game
Allen should know what Porter $$$ worth I will defer to trust they’ll sign him if price right/ if he ain’t in silver and black he wants too much $$$…or our braintrust wrong
March 19th, 2012 at 1:23 am
Sorry for posting the incarceratedbob thing, not like i bought it, just copy-pasted from another site.
Here’s something about him…
http://nfldraftmonsters.com/news/is-incarceratedbob-a-complete-fraud/
March 19th, 2012 at 2:22 am
Satele arrested ? Guess it makes a change from Seabass.
March 19th, 2012 at 2:22 am
Still desperately need:
A couple LBs (one for starter and others for depth)
A Center (or another Guard if Wiz is moving to Center) and a RT.
A back-up RB who could take over if McFadden gets hurt (Tolbert?).
If neither DVD or Chewy are even close to starting at CB, then we need another CB.
Each of these things will prove key in the season. We need a solid line (last year’s was solid allowing very few sacks and good running room in general). Now we’re changing the whole scheme and need pieces that will gel and fit. Otherwise Palmer will not find the time to pass, and he’s not super mobile.
LBs will be our major weakness as currently we don’t have anyone that is super-solid in our LB corps.
March 19th, 2012 at 2:48 am
#282 Raiderzmaverick Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 2:22 am
LBs will be our major weakness as currently we don’t have anyone that is super-solid in our LB corps.
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I heard some of our LBs do have super-solid marble brains. But I also heard that Curry was Academic All American or something resembling that..I know that one of our LBs does have a removable marble brain insert that he uses visiting his homies and before being thrown in paddy wagons…and that his real brain may fall out easily due to his frequent brain exchanges
March 19th, 2012 at 5:34 am
Source is telling me that Raiders will take a look a Donavan McNabb early this week.
March 19th, 2012 at 5:38 am
What source? McNabb is trash.
March 19th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Guest, I don’t reveal my sources.
March 19th, 2012 at 5:48 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.GUEST123,TRANSLATION-HE MADE IT UP..
March 19th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Follow Mr. Biz on twitter to get the latest NFL news. Breaking stories more frequently than ESPN.
March 19th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Good Morning DIRT-LOT, lol
March 19th, 2012 at 5:54 am
Michael Bush not happy by the money he has been offered, especially by Bengals. Now about a %35 chance he returns to Raiders.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Who cares Mr Biz how soon one finds out a story broke? I could go to sleep and not come back till August and then I can see all that happened. Or I could just wait till legit official sources reveal stories in the minutes before you do.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:05 am
FREE AGENT MARKET=USED CAR LOT
March 19th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Raiderzmaverick Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 2:22 am
Still desperately need:
A couple LBs (one for starter and others for depth)
A Center (or another Guard if Wiz is moving to Center) and a RT.
A back-up RB who could take over if McFadden gets hurt (Tolbert?).
If neither DVD or Chewy are even close to starting at CB, then we need another CB.
Each of these things will prove key in the season. We need a solid line (last year’s was solid allowing very few sacks and good running room in general). Now we’re changing the whole scheme and need pieces that will gel and fit. Otherwise Palmer will not find the time to pass, and he’s not super mobile.
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good list but no need for desperation its only march season starts september
March 19th, 2012 at 6:10 am
AGREED POST-292.STILL GOT TO KICK THE TIRES & TEST-DRIVE A FEW..
March 19th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I hope we can get down to the bottom of why the Bengals had little or no interest in Tracy Porter. Like others are saying, we need to kick the tires and see if he’s still in good shape. All I know from what little I’ve seen of Porter is that he’s a playmaker, and even though he’s inconsistent, that could be improved with coaching. He’s just 25, ran a 4.37 40. He can play either corner or safety and lets us have some versatility with how we position Huff. I think in Oakland, Porter will thrive.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Good Morning Nation!!! It’s gonna be one of those mornings!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Mornin’ Nation! Hope everyone has gotten over their St. Patrick’s hangovers.
Curtis Lofton still on the free agent market. Everything you want a middle linebacker to be.
RoMac to the strongside, sign Lofton? Good idea/bad idea?
March 19th, 2012 at 6:22 am
HWNRDR,HAS NOT EVEN BEEN 3 MONTHS AND I NEED A TAILGATE PARTY..
March 19th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Mr. Biz Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Guest, I don’t reveal my sources.
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99% chance they exist solely in your head.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:27 am
I like Curtis Lofton. But he wants too much money. He’s been asking for $9M/year and the Bucs offered $6M/year and he balked. I don’t even want him for $6M/year. So I don’t see us signing Lofton, unless he comes way down on his contract demands.
D’Qwell Jackson literally killed the LB market with his 5yr/$42M contract, which is insane (more than Patrick Willis who makes less than $8M/year). I like Q, but he’s no Patrick Willis. Lofton is running an ego trip thinking he should be paid as much as these guys or more. There’s good money to be had for Lofton, but he needs to realize that he’s more in the $6-$7M price range.
I don’t think so for the Raiders.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Word from Cincinnati is that they took a pass on Porter because they feel his asking price was too steep.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Satele seen playing pattycake with nightclub security @ club ..
March 19th, 2012 at 6:29 am
My source says peyton manning is an idiot if he does not choose the 49ers.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Source is telling me that Raiders will take a look a Donavan McNabb early this week.
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Can your sources at least spell the dude’s name right?
March 19th, 2012 at 6:30 am
298.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 6:22 am
HWNRDR,HAS NOT EVEN BEEN 3 MONTHS AND I NEED A TAILGATE PARTY..
LOL, I feel ya!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:30 am
D’Qwell Jackson literally killed the LB market with his 5yr/$42M contract, which is insane (more than Patrick Willis who makes less than $8M/year).
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I’d heard Jackson got an extension, but I didn’t know the numbers. Holy jesus, that’s high.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Buzz out of Miami is that Dolphins are seriously considering a trade for Tebow if Alex Smith passes.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Word from Cincinnati is that they took a pass on Porter because they feel his asking price was too steep.
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If that’s the case, he may have just negotiated himself into a corner. It’s either the Raiders or go back to the Saints and take their table scraps. The Saints are going to have a tough enough job to pay for their new contracts plus Brees franchise tag. I think Porter may be a bargain after all.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
My sources say it’s gonna be a long week!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
I THOUGHT THEY WERE DANCING ROCKSTAR !!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Hwnrdr started the fight with Samson to smear his reputation.
now we can re-sign him for the vet minimum!
Hwnrdr = team playa
March 19th, 2012 at 6:34 am
GUESS I’M THE ONLY 1 HERE WITH OUT ANY SOURCES..
March 19th, 2012 at 6:37 am
@ Dirt Lot
sorry for the mix up
Samson Satele = Raiders best Center since Barret Robbins (yes – that includes those gimps Grove & Newberry) … and he still gets pushed around a lot versus bigger stronger DT’s. Like Wimbley, he looks like a beast when matched up against average or inferior players
Michael Bush = dancing queen
March 19th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Dirt Lot’s sources = vodka & red bull
March 19th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Vittorio Tafur
Also In Oakland Raiders
· And here’s the lowdown on new #Raiders guard Mike Brisiel, according to Scouts Inc.: “Brisiel is a bit of a throwback who plays with a lot of intensity and toughness. He has above-average quickness … He is not a natural knee bender and has to work to keep his pad level down to leverage blocks, but will keep his feet alive and active to sustain and finish blocks off. He plays with good strength and power but relies more on his upper-body strength than hip explosion and leg power.”
March 19th, 2012 at 6:39 am
· Speaking of Scouts Inc., here’s what they say about new #Raiders cornerback Ron Bartell: “Bartell is a good-sized corner with good overall deep speed. He has long arms that he uses to jam receivers … He is not as physical a tackler as you’d expect for a cornerback with his size and strength but is willing to get involved on run support. He is a little erect in his pedal but is fluid in his hip turn … He has the speed to catch up when he bites on fakes but lacks great ball skills.”
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BARTELL=BEAST 2012 or injured bust
March 19th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Michael Bush = dancing queen
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Oh no! I just got ABBA-rolled…
March 19th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Bartell can’t possibly be a bust. No such thing as a one-year $3M bust. He’s a stopgap till 2013.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:41 am
NEVER MIX YOUR BOOZE..STRAIT,OR NOT AT ALL.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Samson Satele = Raiders best Center since Barret Robbins (yes – that includes those gimps Grove & Newberry) … and he still gets pushed around a lot versus bigger stronger DT’s. Like Wimbley, he looks like a beast when matched up against average or inferior players
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300 lbs and couldn’t even punk a security guard
March 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Vittorio Tafur
Raiders fans seem interested in former 49ers linebacker Manny Lawson and former Raven Jameel McClain, but if recent history has taught us anything it is to scan the list for former Saints, Texans and Packers (because of new shot-callers Allen, Knapp and McKenzie). Which brings us to an interesting player …
about 7 hours ago
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March 19th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Samson Satele…. looks like a beast when matched up against average or inferior players
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Kinda like RoMac when given a clear lane with no opposition and when he doesn’t have to fight through the garbage.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Guest123 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Bartell can’t possibly be a bust. No such thing as a one-year $3M bust. He’s a stopgap till 2013.
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Bartell in BEAST MODE 2012 …to get more money in 2013
Love this signing. Calculated gamble. This guy can cover, play the ball (knock it down, not good catching INT) and hit hard enough to cause some fumbles…if he’s up to it after that neck injury.
If it doesn’t work out, we just let him go, only out a little. It’s not even 3 million till all the incentives kick in.
If he makes the comeback, he’ll want more money in 2013. He was making like 6-6.5 million per year before he got hurt.
I’m sure it was Bartell who wanted the contract for only 1 year. He wants a raise once he proves he’s healthy
and when he goes ALL BEAST on Malcolm Floyd, locks down Dwayne Bowe, and busts Tim Tebow’s face, Raider Nation will be happy to pay up
Go Reggie Mac
March 19th, 2012 at 6:46 am
311.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Hwnrdr started the fight with Samson to smear his reputation.
now we can re-sign him for the vet minimum!
Hwnrdr = team playa
LOL!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:47 am
In recent seasons, the Patriots have traded for or signed numerous former Raiders, including defensive end Derrick Burgess, running back LaMont Jordan, wide receiver Doug Gabriel, quarterback Andrew Walter and most recently cornerback Sterling Moore
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Steve forgot to mention Randy Moss, Terdell Sands & Gerard Warren
but anyways, good luck to Trevor Scott. Until we play against him!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:47 am
320.alzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Samson Satele = Raiders best Center since Barret Robbins (yes – that includes those gimps Grove & Newberry) … and he still gets pushed around a lot versus bigger stronger DT’s. Like Wimbley, he looks like a beast when matched up against average or inferior players
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300 lbs and couldn’t even punk a security guard
Not sure if you been to Hawaii, but the security guard was probably bigger than him!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Bartell’s a tall, physical press coverage guy. Reggie Mac seems to like those kind of corners. I agree that it’s a good calculated and cheap gamble. Bartell rejuevenates his career and gets a nice raise in 2013, or it’s his swan song year. Really no downside to signing him. Although to go into 2012 with a legit backfield, we could sure use a Tracy Porter signing about now.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Kinda like RoMac when given a clear lane with no opposition and when he doesn’t have to fight through the garbage.
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@G123
that was my favorite line a few weeks ago
” #55 is awesome when nobody blocks him ”
hey genius, so is Sam Williams!
March 19th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Schefter just tweeted that Bush is scheduled to visit Seattle…
March 19th, 2012 at 6:52 am
it’s discount week in free agency!
I think we’ll net a few decent players between now and Friday
Reggie’s first 3 signings:
Underwood, Bartell & Brisiel
not “sexy” , but necessary
March 19th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Can you just imagine…Beast Mode and Bush? LOL
March 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Schefter just tweeted that Bush is scheduled to visit Seattle…
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Lynch + Bush = Beast & Porkchop
March 19th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Vittorio Tafur
As for true outside linebackers, there’s been little free agent buzz around former Viking Erin Henderson, ex-Seahawk Leroy Hill and former Bengal Manny Lawson. Henderson’s frustration finally came through Friday night when he tweeted, “What’s crazy is I’m not even asking for big money. All I want is respectable money for what I’m asked to do.”
about 7 hours ago
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March 19th, 2012 at 6:57 am
How much cash does seattle have left? If Bush wasn’t happy with $$ offered by a team like Cincy with tons of $$, I can’t imagine he will with the Seahawks.
Unless…Miller,Cable,and Gallery are recruiting him hard.
March 19th, 2012 at 6:59 am
It’s likely the Raiders could get Spencer for somewhere near the veteran minimum, given his lack of leverage.
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Shawntae Spencer visited on Friday, eh?
interesting. sign him up
Ross, Porter & Trufant still available ???
what about Hayden, Jennings & Gay?
March 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
I’d take Bush back if he offered a hometown discount. Otherwise he can go make a couple of extra bucks backing up Cedric Benson, Matt Forte, or Marshawn Lynch. Give him a nice 4 year/$12M deal to stay as DMC’s backup. That might not even be a discount the way the RB market is nowadays. It’s like collusion against all RB’s. They are a dime a dozen, drafted in the late rounds and recycled, rinse/repeat. It sucks to be RB if you aren’t elite.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
yeah, and we shoulda given Bush franchise tag at $7.7 million right LOL
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2012, 1:22 AM EDT:
Predictably, the market for running backs with reducing tread on their tires no longer is what it once was. And so many of the available tailbacks are ending up with their tails between their legs.
The demand simply isn’t there. Peyton Hillis, who left plenty on the table last season in Cleveland, had to settle for a one-year, $2.6 million deal. Most aren’t even getting a sniff.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:03 am
How much cash does seattle have left? If Bush wasn’t happy with $$ offered by a team like Cincy with tons of $$, I can’t imagine he will with the Seahawks.
Unless…Miller,Cable,and Gallery are recruiting him hard.
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@HB
Seattle axed Gallery last week
They do have Paul McQuistan, Ron Parker & Mike Williams as other Bush connections besides Cable & Miller though
March 19th, 2012 at 7:04 am
yeah its a passing league. Rb value has dropped unless they are one of the few elite backs.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Reggie Mac ILB LA Raiders 1980s 7th meanest Raider ILB ever – Raiders All Time All Mean Team
Reggie Mac PUNKING stupid ass overpaid prima donnas and NFL GMs 2012————————————–
March 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Seattle axed Gallery last week
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I don’t want that T-rex around here anymore, even for vets min.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Is Gallery still available? Why did he get axed? was it production or $$?
March 19th, 2012 at 7:07 am
RaidO Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:04 am
yeah its a passing league. Rb value has dropped unless they are one of the few elite backs.
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check back next year or in a few. Historically, running rules in NFL. Times changing?
March 19th, 2012 at 7:08 am
HairyBush Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Is Gallery still available? Why did he get axed? was it production or $$?
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hurt as usually but probably all of the above
March 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
340. Yeah the players were overpaid but the talent level being replaced is/will be worst. The roster will be weaker than last year. Not to much to get exicted about. To expect a better result is just stupid. 8-8 looks real good now.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Is Gallery still available? Why did he get axed? was it production or $$?
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@HB
yes – still available. knows the zbs. 31 years old
played in 12 games last year, starting all 12.
missed 4 of the first 5 games of the season due to injury, but finished healthy & strong. salary cap move.
Really was only worth about $2.5 million per , which is what Al Davis offered him (and he balked. re-joined Cable)
March 19th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Vittorio Tafur
The Raiders need to replace linebacker Kamerion Wimbley and if they may have to wait for the market price on second-tier guys to be set
about 8 hours ago
Appears in Oakland Raiders, NFL Free Agency, Football
March 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
345.RaidO Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
340. Yeah the players were overpaid but the talent level being replaced is/will be worst. The roster will be weaker than last year. Not to much to get exicted about. To expect a better result is just stupid. 8-8 looks real good now.
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Well, we can hope for better coaching (I certainly believe we will have better coaching on the defensive side of the ball) and that the new players will be more skilled in football knowledge and less apt to make stupid mistakes and be out of position.
We have not lost that much as of yet. Cooper and Satele, Chaz and Boss, Wimbley and Routt? Wimbley may be a loss, but we still have cap room to find a guy who can be a more consistant help on D.
Land CB Porter, a LB and another good o-linemamn and we will be better than last season.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Next up, don’t be surprised if Crennel lures another former Brown to Kansas City, with linebacker Kamerion Wimbley on the market.-PFT
March 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
The Raiders need to replace linebacker Kamerion Wimbley and if they may have to wait for the market price on second-tier guys to be set
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Raiders expressed interest in Julian Peterson, Jeff Ulbrich, Jamie Winborn & Derek Smith
March 19th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Vittorio Tafur
Only three of the top 20 or so LBs available have been signed — Mario Williams, Jarret Johnson and Bryan Thomas
about 8 hours ago
Appears in NFL Free Agency, Football
March 19th, 2012 at 7:18 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/alex-smith-dolphins-are-negotiating/
lots of QB’s “on the move” !!
March 19th, 2012 at 7:21 am
I would love to see Manning take his talents to SF. But if he doesn’t and Alex Smith goes to Miami, that would be funny….
….well, it would be funny until SF’s second year QB takes over and whips azz….
March 19th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Lofton still wants a boatload of money, meanwhile the Lions are scrambling to pay Stephen Tulloch. Once Tulloch signs, that will set the LB market price. Others will start to fall in line accordingly. FA LB’s way overpriced as of now.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:21 am
yeah reports are that alex smith will wait until manning picks a team.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:18 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/alex-smith-dolphins-are-negotiating/
lots of QB’s “on the move” !!
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That’s such an effed up situation, Smith told the dolphins he would only sign with them if SF signed Peyton. Dolphins must feel real important. lol
March 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am
alzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:00 am
yeah, and we shoulda given Bush franchise tag at $7.7 million right LOL
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2012, 1:22 AM EDT:
Predictably, the market for running backs with reducing tread on their tires no longer is what it once was. And so many of the available tailbacks are ending up with their tails between their legs.
The demand simply isn’t there. Peyton Hillis, who left plenty on the table last season in Cleveland, had to settle for a one-year, $2.6 million deal. Most aren’t even getting a sniff.
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Weren’t there predictions in here of Bush getting like $50 million in free agency? LMAO
Hope Reggie is waiting for Mike Tolbert’s price to drop. Good change of pace back, can handle a full load if (when) DMac is injured and unlike Bush has no problem with bulldozing straight ahead.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Vittorio Tafur @VittorioTafur Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
While I guessed the Raiders would sign QB Matt Leinart the day the Texans cut him, I haven’t been able to confirm… http://www.sulia.com/c/nfl-free-agency-2012/f/ee36ab4b-1595-40c2-994b-850c7b44219a/?source=twitter
March 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Lofton still wants a boatload of money, meanwhile the Lions are scrambling to pay Stephen Tulloch. Once Tulloch signs, that will set the LB market price. Others will start to fall in line accordingly. FA LB’s way overpriced as of now.
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@G123
Tulloch wants more money than the Browns gave D’quell Jackson!
March 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Bush is the best starting caliber RB on market. Ran well as starter but not as well in short yardage / goalline specialist last year
catch run usually block
can’t get outside like elite backs
March 19th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Vittorio Tafur
Rocky McIntosh is another interesting name at OLB. A bad fit in the Redskins’ 3-4, the 6-2, 242-pound McIntosh, 29, is a good athlete and open-field tackler. I have no idea if he is on the Raiders radar but he should be. Scouts Inc. says “McIntosh reads and reacts well to route progressions as a zone coverage defender” and that skills has been lacking in Oakland
about 8 hours ago
Appears in Oakland Raiders, NFL Free Agency, Football
March 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Vittorio Tafur just throws crap at the wall to see if it’ll stick, doesn’t he?
the Raiders are in connection to every known FA on the market. lame journalism imo
half the semi pro’s on this blog are more professional than that guy
Raider O > Vittorio Tafur
March 19th, 2012 at 7:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Is Gallery still available? Why did he get axed? was it production or $$?
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@HB
yes – still available. knows the zbs. 31 years old
played in 12 games last year, starting all 12.
missed 4 of the first 5 games of the season due to injury, but finished healthy & strong. salary cap move.
Really was only worth about $2.5 million per , which is what Al Davis offered him (and he balked. re-joined Cable)
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I live up in NW – Seattle is my NFL “home team” – He played like cr_p. He is finished. I would seriously doubt the Raiders even have him in for a visit. Big disappointment in Seattle. Not even worth vet minimum.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Serling Moore signed yet? lol
March 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
77= SHO NASTY / GETTING HIS BEAST ON FOR 2012 = TEBOW PRAY
March 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/ryan-clark-says-no-one-wants-to-join-the-dolphins/
LOL!
the Dolphins will have a better defense than the Steelers in 2012 – write that down
March 19th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Sterling Moore signed yet?
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@Dakota
he’s under contract with the Pats for 465k
Exclusive Rights Free Agent next offseason
March 19th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Gallery=hurt half year X 7 years/ plays hurt 7 games, hurt 5, pro bowl calibre 4 games 2010 = knows ZBS+knows trainer better 32 yo 2012 = 4th tier resort at vet min
March 19th, 2012 at 7:36 am
I am sure our defense will improve, even with inferior personnel…just with someone bright at the helm. I am just worried about our offense.
If I’m wrong about Knapp and he’s somewhat creative in using our weapons, I definitely see us better than last year’s 8-8. But, if Knapp conservativizes the offense like I’m worried about then we don’t have a solid enough defense like SFO, Baltimore etc. to win with a conservative offense too.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Wouldn’t be a bad idea to sign Gallery if we can get him very cheap. Knapp knows him and he played his best in the ZBS.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:37 am
367.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Sterling Moore signed yet?
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@Dakota
he’s under contract with the Pats for 465k
Exclusive Rights Free Agent next offseason
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Bummer!
March 19th, 2012 at 7:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/ryan-clark-says-no-one-wants-to-join-the-dolphins/
LOL!
the Dolphins will have a better defense than the Steelers in 2012 – write that down
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Co-sign.
Steelers have no real NT behind an aging Casey Hampton, currently have Larry Foote penciled into the spot beside Lawrence Timmons and are one Troy Polamalu knee injury away from having a very mediocre secondary.
They have all their draft picks, but that’s also putting a lot of pressure on young guys to step up and perform right away, which isn’t their usual style. PLUS they’ll need to spend some of those on guys to upgrade that offensive line.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Sterling Moore signed yet?
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@Dakota
he’s under contract with the Pats for 465k
Exclusive Rights Free Agent next offseason
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NICE TRY HIDING HIM IN PRESEASON HUE AND AL by not playing him except a few plays against scrubs then taking workout warriors off practice squad before the playa
March 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I watched Gallery play in a couple of games for Seattle…he was garbage. Rolling on the ground like a fool, whiffing on blocks.
What is it about this colossal bust that still intrigues you guys?
March 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Kevin Colbert is going to show just how good he is in the coming few years.
Casey Hampton turns 35 in September, the same month Brett Keisel turns 34. James Harrison turns 34 in May; Polamalu 31 in April.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Much easier to find decent starting OG at reasonable price than OT & C because it’s less important position, easier to play. In general for OL, proven ZBS guys on market in lower quantity but also in lower demand than the power road grader guys. But since most teams like to carry few extra OL, prefer guys they know are a good fit
March 19th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Romney won Puerto Rico….the race is officially over!
March 19th, 2012 at 7:41 am
@ PA
Chris Hoke has retired, and Hampton is rehabbing a torn ACL.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Manning is really creating some crazy scenarios with teams I can’t stand!
I think he ends up in Tenessee with Alex Smith re-signing in SF, Garrard going to Miami and Denver settling with a veteran to back up Tebow like Feely, Redman or Delhomme. Maybe Hasselback if Tennessee release him when they sign Manning.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am
It will be interesting to see how Joe Barksdale works out in a zone blocking scheme.
I know many of you don’t agree but I think Khalif Barnes gave us a pretty good year at RT. Keeping him motivated and his head in the game may always be an issue, but the tackle market is pretty thin, so he may be back whether y’all like it or not. He was signed by Cable when we ran a ZBS and he can do the job if he wants to.
Last year our OL had low sacks & good run blocking but high penalties. Not bad. I think a key was bringing a lot of decent players in to compete best start worst cut.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am
374.Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I watched Gallery play in a couple of games for Seattle…he was garbage. Rolling on the ground like a fool, whiffing on blocks.
What is it about this colossal bust that still intrigues you guys?
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It’s gotta be the ink and long hair!!
March 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
And now that we got rid of our nut-job PR man, Gallery could actually sign again with us without the bridge totally burnt.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
SEYMOUR XXXXXXXXXX 2012
March 19th, 2012 at 7:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:41 am
@ PA
Chris Hoke has retired, and Hampton is rehabbing a torn ACL.
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Forgot about Hampton’s torn ACL. Tough to come all the way back from that at his age and size.
Thinking the Steelers need to package some picks up and move up to grab Dontari Poe. But I hope they don’t because, really, fck the Steelers.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am
374.Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I watched Gallery play in a couple of games for Seattle…he was garbage. Rolling on the ground like a fool, whiffing on blocks.
What is it about this colossal bust that still intrigues you guys?
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He was a solid Guard with us here. Played well. Sucked at tackle. Pretty damned solid Guard.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Vittorio Tafur
Free agent Jo-Lonn Dunbar played strong-side and middle linebacker for the Saints, just turned 27 and the Raiders could use what some scouts say is his nose for the ball. The 6-foot, 226-pound Dunbar had a career-high 79 tackles last year and told the New Orleans Times-Picayune that he has a few teams interested and may take his first visit next week
about 8 hours ago
Appears in Oakland Raiders, NFL Free Agency, Football
March 19th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Thinking the Steelers need to package some picks up and move up to grab Dontari Poe. But I hope they don’t because, really, fck the Steelers
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Exactly, PA!
March 19th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
After adding QB Matt Flynn, the Seahawks have scheduled a visit Tuesday for Raiders RB Michael Bush. TE Jacob Tamme also to visit Seattle.
Retweeted by Jerry McDonald
March 19th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Hoping Reggie Mac gives Demetrius Bell a sniff. Really athletic at 6′5″, 315 lbs., so he’d work in a ZBS. Can be injury prone. Would be a low-risk, potentially high reward signing in the Bartell vein.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am
It will be interesting to see how Joe Barksdale works out in a zone blocking scheme.
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He should take over for Barnes at right tackle. I wonder if Wiz is our starting C this year.
March 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Hoping Reggie Mac gives Demetrius Bell a sniff. Really athletic at 6′5″, 315 lbs., so he’d work in a ZBS. Can be injury prone. Would be a low-risk, potentially high reward signing in the Bartell vein.
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FREE AGENT MARKET=USED CAR LOT
what price?
Athletic and soft as butter. Protected QB well last year till he got hurt. Can’t move a butterfly out
March 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am
If they want to keep Wiz at guard, Dan Koppen from the Pats would be a reasonable free agent target for center. He broke his fibula in Week 1 last year, but otherwise has been injury free for years. He turns 33, so he could be worht like a 2 year deal. Pretty much defines the term “line general.”
March 19th, 2012 at 7:54 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am
If they want to keep Wiz at guard, Dan Koppen from the Pats would be a reasonable free agent target for center. He broke his fibula in Week 1 last year, but otherwise has been injury free for years. He turns 33, so he could be worht like a 2 year deal. Pretty much defines the term “line general.”
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pick up the phone….
March 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am
more like: raiders free agent market= goodwill 2nd hand scrubs
March 19th, 2012 at 7:59 am
EVEN MORE LIKE PANICKED FRENZIED GMs = IDIOTS
March 19th, 2012 at 8:01 am
alzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:54 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am
If they want to keep Wiz at guard, Dan Koppen from the Pats would be a reasonable free agent target for center. He broke his fibula in Week 1 last year, but otherwise has been injury free for years. He turns 33, so he could be worht like a 2 year deal. Pretty much defines the term “line general.”
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pick up the phone….
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Veldheer-Wiz-Koppen-Brisel-Barksdale
Make it happen, Reggie.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Didn’t Raider fans want this guy?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/jarrett-bush-visiting-with-cardinals/
March 19th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Veldheer-Wiz-Koppen-Brisel-Barksdale
Make it happen, Reggie.
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then re-sign Heyer, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle & Barnes for depth !!
March 19th, 2012 at 8:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Didn’t Raider fans want this guy?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/jarrett-bush-visiting-with-cardinals/
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I had him listed as fallback option if we missed out on Bartell, Porter or Ross.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Didn’t Raider fans want this guy?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/jarrett-bush-visiting-with-cardinals/
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ex packers/reggie mac knows beast ST headhunter so-so CB ..allegedly
March 19th, 2012 at 8:15 am
RaidO Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:56 am
more like: raiders free agent market= goodwill 2nd hand scrubs
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Free agency period 3/14/12-12/31/12, April draft, rookie UDFA, JUNE 1 – NEW CUTS on FIRESALE. Training Camp July hitting camp preseason August DOESN’T COUNT UNTIL MID SEPTEMBER
March 19th, 2012 at 8:19 am
COACH EM UP = FREE
March 19th, 2012 at 8:21 am
“The Oakland Raiders began the search for possible running back depth options as they worked out former Browns, and Redskins running back James Davis. The former Clemson running back was a sixth round pick of the Browns back in 2009 and has been a limited producer in the NFL. He had 19 carries and four receptions in 2010, but spent 2011 bouncing between the Texans and Lions practice squads.
The Raiders are in need of running back help as they try to figure out the post-Michael Bush era. Darren McFadden will remain their starting running back, but given his injury history, depth is needed. The Raiders are hoping for big things from Taiwan Jones as a complement to McFadden, but he is only a second year back. At this point it would help to bring in some competition, even if Davis has not been the most dynamic of running backs.
The 49ers running back situation is focused on Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter, but they are on the lookout for competition for third string back Anthony Dixon. Although Dixon brings great energy to special teams, he has a bad habit of being a bit too much of a dancer for a big guy. Although he continues to stick on the roster, the team continues their search for competition.”
March 19th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Derek Hagan signs with Bills…
March 19th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Taiwan Jones = runs like Tony Dorsett+ blocks like Kristy Yamaguchi + breaks like china doll+ catches like DMac+ Returns kicks like he will get better soon+ runs for short yardage like yo momma+ runs goal line like pole vaulter+ coach em up = ????????????????????????????
March 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Have we seen enough from Taiwan Jones to draw those conclusions? I didn’t watch him in college, so I have no idea what he can be.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Good Morning Nation.
Sign T Porter.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Taiwan Jones also = covers kicks like Alvis Whitted sometimes+
March 19th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Have we seen enough from Taiwan Jones to draw those conclusions? I didn’t watch him in college, so I have no idea what he can be.
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+ coach em up = ????????????????????????????
March 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Vittorio Tafur just throws crap at the wall to see if it’ll stick, doesn’t he?
the Raiders are in connection to every known FA on the market. lame journalism imo
half the semi pro’s on this blog are more professional than that guy
Raider O > Vittorio Tafur
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I know Vitto speculates a lot but at least he understands that CP > TT and understands that simply winning games is not the measure of a QB like some of our semis think.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:36 am
RR,
#362, is that a compliment or an insult to Vittorio? lol
March 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Free Agent linebackers that our new regime are familiar with:
Marvin Mitchell(Mia) -Was with the Saints while Allen was there and is a special teams stud and has made plays at LB when given a chance
Wesley Woodyard(Den) – Had his best season last year under coach Allen
Brady Poppinga(Stl) – At 32 years old and having played most of his career in GB he would provide veteran leadership at the thinest position on the team
Jolonn Dunbar(NO) – Spend a few years with coach Allen
March 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I know Vitto speculates a lot but at least he understands that CP > TT and understands that simply winning games is not the measure of a QB like some of our semis think.
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yeah. He speculated that Jerome Boyd would be a “lock” to play a role in 2011 didn’t he? Ended up locked between practice squad and roster bottom now not tendered = on street
March 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Raiders aren’t a Top 5 loser in free agency, even after Jason Campbell, Rock Cartwright, Chaz Schilens, Kevin Boss & Stan Routt were ousted and found new teams
plus Michael Bush & Kam Wimbley will likely be inked early this week
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/special-monday-10-pack-winners-and-losers-in-free-agency/
March 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Panthers sign Tolbert….4 year deal.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:36 am
RR,
#362, is that a compliment or an insult to Vittorio? lol
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Vito = us
March 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am
The Oakland Raiders began the search for possible running back depth options as they worked out former Browns, and Redskins running back James Davis. The former Clemson running back was a sixth round pick of the Browns back in 2009 and has been a limited producer in the NFL. He had 19 carries and four receptions in 2010, but spent 2011 bouncing between the Texans and Lions practice squads.
Derek Hagan signs with Bills…
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@Dakota
Link? Source?
March 19th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Sign:
1- CB T Porter
2- OLB/ WLB Hill, McIntoch, Woodyard
3- RT A Collins or D Bell
4- C Satele or J Brown
5- DE/ OLB Wimbley
March 19th, 2012 at 8:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Raiders aren’t a Top 5 loser in free agency, even after Jason Campbell, Rock Cartwright, Chaz Schilens, Kevin Boss & Stan Routt were ousted and found new teams
plus Michael Bush & Kam Wimbley will likely be inked early this week
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/special-monday-10-pack-winners-and-losers-in-free-agency/
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STANFORD ROUTT 2012=ELVIS TOAST PATTERSON 1987
March 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
@Dakota
Link? Source?
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What, you don’t trust me?
March 19th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Have we seen enough from Taiwan Jones to draw those conclusions? I didn’t watch him in college, so I have no idea what he can be.
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+ coach em up = ????????????????????????????
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+ tape him up
March 19th, 2012 at 8:45 am
415.Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Panthers sign Tolbert….4 year deal.
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This is a head scratcher. I guess Tolbert wants to go where he gets paid well and doesn’t work much.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
@Dakota
Link? Source?
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What, you don’t trust me?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Are you surprised?
March 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Panthers sign Tolbert….4 year deal
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Williams & Stewart combo broken up?
March 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am
422.Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:45 am
415.Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Panthers sign Tolbert….4 year deal.
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This is a head scratcher. I guess Tolbert wants to go where he gets paid well and doesn’t work much.
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Don’t we all?
March 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am
The Oakland Raiders began the search for possible running back depth options as they worked out former Browns, and Redskins running back James Davis. The former Clemson running back was a sixth round pick of the Browns back in 2009 and has been a limited producer in the NFL. He had 19 carries and four receptions in 2010, but spent 2011 bouncing between the Texans and Lions practice squads.
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check him out. Thanks for info.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Don’t we all?
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Ya I suppose so! Usually RB’s want the ball.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Keep an eye on Jonathan Stewart. The Panthers will be looking to deal him, and the RB market isn’t what it used to be..signing of Tolbert could be his ticket out.
“ESPN’s Pat Yasinskas agrees that Jonathan Stewart is more likely to become trade bait than DeAngelo Williams if the Panthers sign free agent Mike Tolbert.
This possibility was first floated by the Charlotte Observer, and Yasinskas is a trusted voice as a former Panthers beat reporter. Stewart is entering a contract year, and the Panthers probably won’t be able to retain both him and the overpaid Williams behind 2012. If the Panthers do shop Stewart before April’s draft, they shouldn’t settle for any less than a second-round pick”
source; Rotoworld
March 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Williams & Stewart combo broken up?
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I’ve been hearing talk all weekend that Stewart will be traded and they still have Mike Goodson.
March 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Peton to the donkeys!! Son of a…
March 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Peyton*^
March 19th, 2012 at 8:54 am
RaiderSam Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Keep an eye on Jonathan Stewart. The Panthers will be looking to deal him, and the RB market isn’t what it used to be..signing of Tolbert could be his ticket out.
“ESPN’s Pat Yasinskas agrees that Jonathan Stewart is more likely to become trade bait than DeAngelo Williams if the Panthers sign free agent Mike Tolbert.
This possibility was first floated by the Charlotte Observer, and Yasinskas is a trusted voice as a former Panthers beat reporter. Stewart is entering a contract year, and the Panthers probably won’t be able to retain both him and the overpaid Williams behind 2012. If the Panthers do shop Stewart before April’s draft, they shouldn’t settle for any less than a second-round pick”
source; Rotoworld
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yeah right don’t sign Michael Bush for peanuts but give up a #2 pick + $$$ for Stewart?
March 19th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Luis Castillo visited the Chiefs & Patriots
don’t the Raiders need another 4-3 base DE?
DE’s ShoNasty (coming off of I.R.) and Lamarr Houston
Groves, Wimbley, Moss & Scott = gone
March 19th, 2012 at 8:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Raiders aren’t a Top 5 loser in free agency, even after Jason Campbell, Rock Cartwright, Chaz Schilens, Kevin Boss & Stan Routt were ousted and found new teams
plus Michael Bush & Kam Wimbley will likely be inked early this week
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/special-monday-10-pack-winners-and-losers-in-free-agency/
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Bush visiting Bengals…no word on Wimbley..maybe Colts?
“The Bears are expected to “monitor” free agent OLB Kamerion Wimbley.
Teamed with Julius Peppers, Wimbley would give the Bears the league’s most fearsome pass-rushing duo, but it’s unlikely Chicago has the money to be a serious suitor after re-signing DE Israel Idonije”
Source; Rotoworld
March 19th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Don’t we all?
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Ya I suppose so! Usually RB’s want the ball.
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we have a ball, want a RB
March 19th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Jonathan Stewart > Mike Bush !!
March 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Tebow to Miami now with Manning a donkey? We need some guys that can get to the QB!
March 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
CW,
whatchoo talkin’ bout Willis ???
PM = donkey?
I call bs
March 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Luis Castillo visited the Chiefs & Patriots
don’t the Raiders need another 4-3 base DE?
DE’s ShoNasty (coming off of I.R.) and Lamarr Houston
Groves, Wimbley, Moss & Scott = gone
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Castillo=old + <<< Houston
March 19th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Castillo would be a 4-3 DT. He’s a 3-4 DE.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
SHO NASTY =77=BEAST 2012
March 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am
BRING IT ON MANNING! Hope we end his career next opening night!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Why did he choose the Donks over the 49ers? Manning must be an idiot.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am
438.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
CW,
whatchoo talkin’ bout Willis ???
PM = donkey?
I call bs
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Just heard un Sirius, Chris Mortensen confirmed it. Tebow will be trade bait as soon as the contract is finalized.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Yup…Peyton to the Donkeys!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Dakotex is still an idiot.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:05 am
442.Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am
BRING IT ON MANNING! Hope we end his career next opening night!
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I hope we get to him, give him a good scare and he hangs ‘em up for good leaving Denver with Adam Weber & whatever scrub back up they also pick up as QB!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Luis Castillo visited the Chiefs & Patriots
don’t the Raiders need another 4-3 base DE?
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You mean a base 3-4 end.(although Patriots run a hybrid 4-3/3-4, and Yes, we do.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:07 am
BSPN says it’s true: http://espn.go.com/nfl/
March 19th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Tebow as Carson & Darren’s back up!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:02 am
438.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
CW,
whatchoo talkin’ bout Willis ???
PM = donkey?
I call bs
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Just heard un Sirius, Chris Mortensen confirmed it. Tebow will be trade bait as soon as the contract is finalized.
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It’ll be interesting to see if this opens up a lot more free agents to sign at Denver…particularly, Reggie Wayne
March 19th, 2012 at 9:08 am
We need to sign Tracy Porter now let’s shore up the secondary and get ready to beat Manning twice next year!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:09 am
“It’ll be interesting to see if this opens up a lot more free agents to sign at Denver…particularly, Reggie Wayne”
Reggie Wayne is already signed (Colts)
March 19th, 2012 at 9:10 am
IF PM signs with Broncos, it may well bust ‘em (Broncos).
March 19th, 2012 at 9:11 am
How long will it take for jerry or Steve to post this news
March 19th, 2012 at 9:11 am
http://www.nfl.com/ reporting it’s true….
What is the over/under of hours until Cork posts an update? THursday??
March 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Elway now has his 90 million dollar excuse to go a different way with Tebow. Watch for Jacksonville to scoop him up. He may not be a good QB but he can sure sell season tickets.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:15 am
You should have took your money and ran Peyton.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:15 am
SHO NASTY 77+ KELLY 93+ HOUSTON 99 + SEYMOUR XXXX 92 = 361 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PEYTON=~18
March 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Raiders sign Porter and Landry, make it happen!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The Raiders need to replace Wimbley like yesterday. Without a natural pass rush, PM will tear us apart twice a year regardless of our CBs. Rivers when he gets time does the same thing even when we had Namdi and Routt.
I guess I am glad we kept Kelly – we are going to need his pass rushing skills up the middle.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:17 am
RaidO Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Raiders should bring in Vince Young.
VY > CP tree trunk INT machine
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Dumbest post ever……
March 19th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I’m stoked. We get to crush Manning twice this year. That is, if he lasts that long
March 19th, 2012 at 9:18 am
One hard hit on Peyton and his neck will snap.Freaking ejit.Take your money and run – or is it that little bro has one more ring than you have.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I knew the Broncos would throw the Kitchen sink to get rid of Tebow without alienating their fan base. Kudos to Elway and Fox for doing it without having rioting in the streets. I was hoping for to have Tebow twice a year with a disciplined Oakland DEF = 2 wins per year. O Well…
March 19th, 2012 at 9:19 am
RaidO Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Raiders should bring in Vince Young.
VY > CP tree trunk INT machine
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Dumbest post ever……
Yes it is the single most stupidest thing I ever read!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Alex Smith just made bank, “yo, SF, show me the money!”
March 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Man I hope we play the Flaming Donkeys on opening night!
C’mon Reggie we need a stud pass rusher and some DB’s.
Shonasty needs to go Black on P. Man’s Azz!!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Neilb Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:18 am
One hard hit on Peyton and his neck will snap.Freaking ejit.Take your money and run – or is it that little bro has one more ring than you have.
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I hate to hope for an injury but if we face him healthy with the people around him, that will be trouble for our DEF. I hope Tarver can scheme some good pass rushes.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Best case scenario:
Peyton signs with Denver, (no weapons, can’t run not concerned);
Alex signs with Miami;
San Francisco has no qb,
Trade a first and Willis to the Raiders for Palmer,
Denver cuts Tebow
Raiders sign Tebow
Raiders use Tebow, Pryor, McFadden, Reece, Moore, and Ford in new offense that teams can’t stop,
Raiders once again become the mavericks of the NFL!
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I stand corrected……….
March 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The Raiders need to replace Wimbley like yesterday. Without a natural pass rush, PM will tear us apart twice a year regardless of our CBs. Rivers when he gets time does the same thing even when we had Namdi and Routt.
I guess I am glad we kept Kelly – we are going to need his pass rushing skills up the middle.
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Wimbley doesn’t go vs. 3rd string LT every week
SHO NASTY 77+ KELLY 93+ HOUSTON 99 + SEYMOUR XXXX 92 = 361 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PEYTON=~18
not many edge rushers available even for $$$$$$
Free agency period 3/14/12-12/31/12, April draft, rookie UDFA, May mini camp take a look , JUNE 1 = NEW CUTS on FIRESALE. Training Camp July hitting camp preseason August DOESN’T COUNT UNTIL MID SEPTEMBER
March 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
What’s up Dmac, Neil, 666, Nation!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Oh well, lets see what happens with this Donkey signing of Peyton…I cant stand that they signed him.
Lets go Raiders…………….!!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Raiders sign Porter and Landry, make it happen!
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LANDRY=FAT+ BAD ACHILLES TENDON
March 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am
What up Dirty?
So did PM sign w/ the Donkeys?
If so, I’m not worried. Just send the house on the 1st play and deliver the season ending knock out!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Wouldn’t want to see anyone injured.That’s why Peyton is a freaking ejit.Nothing to prove – he should think about the quality of life he has now.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Manning is an idiot!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Good morning Dirty.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:24 am
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Broncos will try to trade Tim Tebow following the official signing of free agent Peyton Manning.
Signing Manning was the Broncos’ only foolproof way to crush Tebowmania, and there’s an almost zero percent chance he will be allowed to remain on the roster and serve as a distraction behind the biggest free agent signing in NFL history. The Jaguars and Dolphins figure to be Tebow’s most frequently rumored landing spots, though it’s quite possible he won’t be shipped anywhere as a starter. Coach John Fox and VP of Football Operations John Elway will soon be free of a player they could barely hide their contempt for.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
March 19th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Thank you, Peyton. You are going to ruin Denver’s cap for years to come.
Peyton isnt gonna help when we drop 40 on Denver.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Good morning Raccoon.
Destroy the Donkeys and their QBs!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
oprox13 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 18th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Best case scenario:
Peyton signs with Denver, (no weapons, can’t run not concerned);
Alex signs with Miami;
San Francisco has no qb,
Trade a first and Willis to the Raiders for Palmer,
Denver cuts Tebow
Raiders sign Tebow
Raiders use Tebow, Pryor, McFadden, Reece, Moore, and Ford in new offense that teams can’t stop,
Raiders once again become the mavericks of the NFL!
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I stand corrected……….
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If RM and DA are stupid enough to bring in TT I am off the RM train that scenario would be a nightmare. I ilke everything into the Palmer trade though. Why can’t people understand that Palmer is actually an above average QB and TT is a TE impostering a QB.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Darn! I knew Peyton would sign with the Donkeys or the Chiefs! We are screwed! What’s a team to do? What a Nightmare!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Good Afternoon NATION !!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Remember Week 1 on Monday night when Matt Shaughnessy beat Ryan Clady like a drum the whole game?
Peyton is going to see ShoNasty in his fckign nightmares
March 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Trade for Tebow. We need a backup RB.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Let’s sign Porter! (I’ll take my chances on the injured prone CB)
March 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Trade for Tebow. We still need LB’s.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Darn! I knew Peyton would sign with the Donkeys or the Chiefs! We are screwed! What’s a team to do? What a Nightmare!
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A 36 year old QB with chronic neck issues who just hosed their cap for the foreseeable future? I am undismayed.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Manning = biggest free agent signing in history?
Maybe if he was 28…..
March 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Trade for Tebow. We need a backup RB.
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Ouch!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Peyton is not as smart as I thought he was.
Cold weather.
Tebow controversies the moment they lose any game
Their D is good but not great.
Dumb as fkc move on his part.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Trade for Tebow. We still need LB’s.
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Damn!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Darn! I knew Peyton would sign with the Donkeys or the Chiefs! We are screwed! What’s a team to do? What a Nightmare!
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NIGHTMARE 4 WHO 361 XXXX LIGHTS OUT PEYTON BRONCOS=BROKE
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
The Donks now will go after Jeff Saturday…time for Reggie Mac to step up and snag him away before the donks get to him
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I hope A. Smith schits on the Whiners and signs elsewhere.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I rather Face Tebow twice a year over Manning, but that doesn’t mean Manning scares me. We will destroy him and his no talent team. What an idiot. He chose the team with no weapons on offense, and an overachieving defense over SF & Tenn.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Manning is officially a Donkey!
I love it. The AFC West has been a running joke for awhile now. I like the competition. Beat the best to be the best. Bring on Peyton and his fragile neck!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:30 am
If Miami signs Alex, 49ers are screwed.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:30 am
If Miami signs Alex, 49ers are screwed.
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If Miami signs Alex, the Dolphins are more screwed than the 49ers.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Neilb,
I like QBs that can throw the ball.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Manning, Rivers, Palmer, and Cassell. That is a pretty good bunch of QBs right there for any division.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Neilb Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:18 am
One hard hit on Peyton and his neck will snap.Freaking ejit.Take your money and run – or is it that little bro has one more ring than you have.
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I hate to hope for an injury but if we face him healthy with the people around him, that will be trouble for our DEF. I hope Tarver can scheme some good pass rushes.
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Neil
Just to be clear – I was not rooting for an injury. Someone else posted that they wanted someone to break his neck. That is why I said I don’t want to hope for injury. I was saying we need a pass rush to put pressure on him and force some mistakes. Not to injure him. I read it and it sounded like I was the DE for the Rams or something – sorry for even sounding like that. PM is the all time interception leader and makes mistakes when pressure is on him.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Cold weather.
Tebow controversies the moment they lose any game
Their D is good but not great.
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No running game.Nothing to throw to.What a freaking ejit.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Tebow sucks and Elway finally found a way to get him off his rooster.
Why everyone is suckling his nuts is beyond me he throws like a girl.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:32 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Remember Week 1 on Monday night when Matt Shaughnessy beat Ryan Clady like a drum the whole game?
Peyton is going to see ShoNasty in his fckign nightmares
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77= SHO NASTY = GETTING HIS BEAST ON FOR 2012 = CLADY DEAD + PEYTON=RETIRED TO WHEELCHAIR
March 19th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Whats up Bo!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:33 am
When do we play the Donkeys at Denver?
Can’t wait to see PM out there on the field w/ a stiff, frozen ass neck.
Send AC on a blitz to deliver the knock out punch!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:34 am
497.DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I hope A. Smith schits on the Whiners and signs elsewhere.
That would be funny as heck! But I take it he stays in SF!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Denver has a brutal schedule.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:34 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:33 am
When do we play the Donkeys at Denver?
Can’t wait to see PM out there on the field w/ a stiff, frozen ass neck.
Send AC on a blitz to deliver the knock out punch!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NO BOUNTIES NEEDED
March 19th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Manning makes lemonade out of lemons if he has time. He is extremely accurate and tries to find creases to throw into and is like a coach on the field. He makes average WRs look like all pros. Extremely good at timing routes. Look at the drop off in Indy when he left! Don’t under estimate him. However, he does make mistakes if you get him moving in the pocket. We need to beef up our pass rush for both him and Rivers.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Elway now has his 90 million dollar excuse to go a different way with Tebow. Watch for Jacksonville to scoop him up.
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AW,
J-Ville got Chad Henne
Tebow will be Miami bound because SF will now retain Alex Smith & TN will now retain Hasselbeck
March 19th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Let’s show Manning he made the wrong decision, thinking the AFC West was the easiest way to what he wants.
I am sure Dennis Allen is pumped, knowing his defense has to face a couple of really good quarterbacks twice a year.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Raiders will make the right choices.
If no one wants Tebow as their qb, Reggie and Dennis should convert him to linebacker.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Kam to visit Titans!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Tebow to Jacksonville for Blaine Gabbert and a draft pick.
Gabbert gets to sit behind Manning and learn. Tebow sells tickets in Jacksonville. Everybody wins.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:38 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Manning makes lemonade out of lemons if he has time.
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Agreed. The only weakness in his game is clutch. His brother is a much better clutch player but Manning is a much better regular game player.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:39 am
-Ville got Chad Henne
Tebow will be Miami bound because SF will now retain Alex Smith & TN will now retain Hasselbeck
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Musical QB Chairs, and when the music stops Miami gets stuck with the lame-o QB.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Division-rival-to-be Peyton Manning hasn’t torn the Raiders to pieces. He’s 3-2, 114-for-184, 1261 yds, 12 tds, 8 int, 85.4 passer rating.
TEAR MANNING TO PIECES
SHO NASTY 77+ KELLY 93+ HOUSTON 99 + SEYMOUR XXXX 92 = 361 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PEYTON=~18
March 19th, 2012 at 9:40 am
the broncos. Peyton manning is dumb. Career over for that guy.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:40 am
MichaelMcDonagh @mcdonaghm Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@Jerrymcd @CorkOnTheNFL Raiders Vs. Broncos opening monday night in Oaktown?
Retweeted by Jerry McDonald
BRING IT ON
March 19th, 2012 at 9:40 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Darn! I knew Peyton would sign with the Donkeys or the Chiefs! We are screwed! What’s a team to do? What a Nightmare!
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A 36 year old QB with chronic neck issues who just hosed their cap for the foreseeable future? I am undismayed
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Nah Silver we are screwed. You’re out of pocket if you think Peyton can’t play any longer. Dude is part ailen. lol Manning is still a threat.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:42 am
The move makes Denver the immediate favorites in a weak AFC West, and elevates them into the top 2 or 3 teams in the AFC.
-Adam Shiesty
March 19th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Tulloch, Landry, Porter; Reggie sign two of these three.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:43 am
alzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Darn! I knew Peyton would sign with the Donkeys or the Chiefs! We are screwed! What’s a team to do? What a Nightmare!
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NIGHTMARE 4 WHO 361 XXXX LIGHTS OUT PEYTON BRONCOS=BROKE
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Nightmare for us Alzado! The Donkeys have a QB that can run the O.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Sup DMAC?
March 19th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:43 am
alzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Darn! I knew Peyton would sign with the Donkeys or the Chiefs! We are screwed! What’s a team to do? What a Nightmare!
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NIGHTMARE 4 WHO 361 XXXX LIGHTS OUT PEYTON BRONCOS=BROKE
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Nightmare for us Alzado! The Donkeys have a QB that can run the O.
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PEYTON BETTER RUN FOR HIS LIFE…NO BOUNTIES NEEDED
March 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Dang!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Last season:
We lost our starting QB
We lost our main weapon of offense
We broke the penalty records
We had the one of the worse defenses since the merger
We were one game away from winning our division
This season
We added a new GM and coaching staff
We improved the QB situation
DMAC is healthy
We Will Win The West!!!
WWWTW
March 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Why would Bush think his situation in Seattle, with Lynch the 1st stringer, would be different than his situation here? The advantage might be a bit more money but not the lead back role he has always said he wants.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Reggie get Tyvon & Desmond resigned!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am
On* offense
March 19th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Goldie7=DENVER PUS*Y
March 19th, 2012 at 9:51 am
We Raider fans said cruel stuff about Tebow and he still beat us. Careful about Manning….I’m not getting good vibes. So what because Peyton had a broken neck….never get over confident. Listen to my words….Peyton Manning is a threat with “broken neck” and all. lol Dang it.
I’m hoping Peyton is not the same as he was with the Colts.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:52 am
The one think about Peyton going to Denver that bothers me the most is that yes, I DO think the refs and the NFL will want him to succeed. He’s the biggest story they have to push of the 2012 season. Subconsciously, that affects the refs. Denver will be given every close call, and even though I believed that the old think of refs throwing flags on the Raiders might abate now that we are under new management, we will not be seen as the “new and improved Raiders who aren’t dumb,” but as “the villains who are trying to keep Peyton from his rightful destiny of achieving a second Super Bowl victory.
And no, I don’t think I am being conspiratorial because I don’t think the refs operate that way. All this stuff operates on a subconscious level. We all know that Stanford Routt will not get the same number of flags thrown on him for face guarding as he did with the Raiders.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Vittorio Tafur @VittorioTafur Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Jarvis Moss has tweeted that he doesn’t think he will be returning to the fold, so add backup defensive end to the list of Raiders needs.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am
What up Goldie?
March 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am
alzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Goldie7=DENVER PUS*Y
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Nah….Zado, I’m tough as nails. I’m only trying to shed truth to my Raider fans. lol
March 19th, 2012 at 9:54 am
If Bush wants to play, he should just stay in Oakland. DmC is so injury prone that Bush could still be a 1000 yd rusher every season here.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:54 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am
What up Goldie?
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What’s going on Man?
March 19th, 2012 at 9:56 am
FK PM!!
He is a officially a Donkey!
Let’s end his season Defense!
Where you at Huffy???
You are notorious for those high angle, drag a dude down my its neck or shoulders tackling machine.
Send Huffy on a blitz and its over!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Just Win Baby Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:54 am
If Bush wants to play, he should just stay in Oakland. DmC is so injury prone that Bush could still be a 1000 yd rusher every season here.
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DMAC ALL BEAST ALMOST ALL YEAR 2012 + BACKUP + SHORT YARDAGE
March 19th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:54 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am
What up Goldie?
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What’s going on Man?
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Not to worried about PM.
Just hoping that A. Smith fk’s the Whiners and signs elsewhere.
March 19th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Free agent OLB Kamerion Wimbley will visit the Titans on Monday.
The Titans were expected to make a push for Mario Williams before getting bogged down in the Peyton Manning sweepstakes, but signing Wimbley would be the next best thing. Wimbley hasn’t generated any public interest since his Friday release, but has almost certainly been generating significant interest behind the scenes. He’s the top remaining free agent with Manning off the board.
Related: Titans
Source: Jim Wyatt on Twitter
March 19th, 2012 at 9:59 am
We don’t need Bush. We can do better & Cheaper. Bush is a good solid RB, but he is nothing special. He had a chance to show what he can do, and I think he showed us and other teams that he is not an elite RB. He is just an above avg RB. Teams don’t want to pay that type of money for an avg RB.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:00 am
All this news and we’re commenting on ’satele stubs his toe’
March 19th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Free agent C Jeff Saturday was reportedly scheduled to visit the Packers and Titans before Peyton Manning agreed to join the Broncos on Monday.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen report that all three teams Manning had been talking with have considered adding Saturday. Manning did not “mandate” the addition of Saturday, but it would no doubt increase his comfort level with the team. It’s worth noting that Pro Football Focus graded Denver’s J.D. Walton as the NFL’s worst center in 2011. Saturday was No. 5.
Related: Broncos, Titans, Packers
Source: ESPN.com
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Should we make a play for Saturday?
Is he familiar w/ zone blocking?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Yep….I see your point DMAC but our D suck rotten eggs. We have no D.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Kam to visit Titans!
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excellent, Hwnrdr
March 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Yep….I see your point DMAC but our D suck rotten eggs. We have no D.
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Can’t be no worse than last year’s D.
I have a feeling DA and Tarver will have the D playing at a higher level.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Panthers sign Tolbert….4 year deal.
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Damned, would’ve liked to get him.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Free agent OLB Kamerion Wimbley will visit the Titans on Monday.
The Titans were expected to make a push for Mario Williams before getting bogged down in the Peyton Manning sweepstakes, but signing Wimbley would be the next best thing. Wimbley hasn’t generated any public interest since his Friday release, but has almost certainly been generating significant interest behind the scenes. He’s the top remaining free agent with Manning off the board.
Related: Titans
Source: Jim Wyatt on Twitter
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Richass Wimbley will probably have to come back for what he’s worth ~ 6M ~ half what he fleece AD for + sign up his agent LOL to bank
March 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
My worry is…Peyton Manning is part ailen. I mean just take a good look at him.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
If any of you mention Tim Teblow as someone who the Raiders should go after, I think you should stick your heads in an oven and turn the gas on.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:05 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Goldie7 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Yep….I see your point DMAC but our D suck rotten eggs. We have no D.
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Can’t be no worse than last year’s D.
I have a feeling DA and Tarver will have the D playing at a higher level.
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I am hoping so. I don’t know though DMAC.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:05 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Panthers sign Tolbert….4 year deal.
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Damned, would’ve liked to get him.
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Damn you Tolbert!
I think Reggie takes a RB in the late rounds or undradfted to fill in that spot.
DMAC
Jones
Rookie??????
March 19th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Hey Whinner fan…..how’s that turd feel your management team just sat on?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Guest123 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:39 am
-Ville got Chad Henne
Tebow will be Miami bound because SF will now retain Alex Smith & TN will now retain Hasselbeck
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Musical QB Chairs, and when the music stops Miami gets stuck with the lame-o QB.
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You seriously think C. Henne is going to stop the Jags from offering a 3rd or 2nd for TT???? The owner went on record saying get him if he is traded.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Tolbert signing will create a new FA on the market…
March 19th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Sounds like Jeff Saturday, Dallas Clark and Joseph Addai will be headed to Denver too.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Tebow needs to think about changing positions or being out of football in 2 years.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Don’t worry fellas.
Remember that PM’s neck’s has to hold up that big ass bobble head of his all season long.
Won’t happen.
We all know he throw the ball. The Question is will he be able to substain hits? Or be able to move that neck in cold ass weather?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:08 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Tolbert signing will create a new FA on the market…
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Who? Goodson? Stewart? Highly doubt it.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
AlzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Division-rival-to-be Peyton Manning hasn’t torn the Raiders to pieces. He’s 3-2, 114-for-184, 1261 yds, 12 tds, 8 int, 85.4 passer rating.
TEAR MANNING TO PIECES
SHO NASTY 77+ KELLY 93+ HOUSTON 99 + SEYMOUR XXXX 92 = 361 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PEYTON=~18
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I am telling you the key is pass rush!!!! We need to respond by getting a good OLB that can rush like Lawson maybe.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Mr. manning say hello to Mr. Shaughnessy
March 19th, 2012 at 10:11 am
567.raidertalk Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Mr. manning say hello to Mr. Shaughnessy
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Yeah, I’ll bet that scares him…..
March 19th, 2012 at 10:11 am
PM meet Huffy!
Why Huffy?
Because he always tackles high around the neck, shoulder area.
It’s over!!!!
LMAO
March 19th, 2012 at 10:12 am
SHO NASTY 77 2012= ALZADO 77 1978 = PEYTON DEAD NO BOUNTY NEEDED GIVE THE MONEY TO BRONCOS=BROKE THEY’LL NEED IT
March 19th, 2012 at 10:12 am
CSN Bay Area’s Matt Maiocco expects the 49ers to work quickly to re-sign free agent Alex Smith following Peyton Manning’s decision to sign with the Broncos.
San Francisco is still widely believed to be Smith’s top choice, and he’s been reported to have a standing offer of three years and $24 million. That would be more than generous for a seven-year veteran who just cracked the 3,000-yards passing barrier for the first time in 2011.
Source: CSN Bay Area
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Wow!
Thats a nice piece of change, for a scrub.
I still hope he signs elsewhere and fks the Whiners.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Dang…What happened to Tebow fans? Tebow fans loved him until Manning came on board. People are so fickle.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Even if Manning never plays a down for the Broncos he has still done one great service for the Broncos….given Elway a reasonable excuse to extricate the team out from under the ridiculous Teblowmania BS.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I think Manning’s neck is fine or else no doctor would have cleared him.
His biggest physical problem is his age and one year of inactivity. That doesn’t mean he won’t be a great quarterback, but it does mean that everything he does, even throw, will be just a split second slower than the year before.
Also, while he was never adept of foot, his awkwardness belied his ability at times to head for the sidelines when necessary. When you are his age, he will be slower on any number of plays. He also ran qb sneaks on short yardage. They may not want him sticking his head into the pile anymore on 3rd and 4th and short.
I actually like Manning and despise Elway so I hope we cream the whole damn team.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Does anyone have the #’s on Tolbert’s deal?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
AlzadoX Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Division-rival-to-be Peyton Manning hasn’t torn the Raiders to pieces. He’s 3-2, 114-for-184, 1261 yds, 12 tds, 8 int, 85.4 passer rating.
TEAR MANNING TO PIECES
SHO NASTY 77+ KELLY 93+ HOUSTON 99 + SEYMOUR XXXX 92 = 361 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PEYTON=~18
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I am telling you the key is pass rush!!!! We need to respond by getting a good OLB that can rush like Lawson maybe.
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ask Tarver what he’s worth /need LB/ don’t break the bank no need to panic
March 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Early on in the season we may be able to get to the Broncs, Manning and offense adjusting. Later in the season he may have everything together.
More Drama in the AFC west
March 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
575.DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Does anyone have the #’s on Tolbert’s deal?
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4 years $122 million, with $6 million guaranteed.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Sounds like Jeff Saturday, Dallas Clark and Joseph Addai will be headed to Denver too.
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Addai?
that would be funny if the Donks cut McGahee or Moreno!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:16 am
This will also light a fire under Phillip Rivers. He won’t like being known as the second best qb in the division and you know what, while some of you can’t stand him, I have a lot of respect for Rivers. Of all the qbs in the league, I think he most represents the fiery nature of what used to be Raiders.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:16 am
They may not want him sticking his head into the pile anymore on 3rd and 4th and short.
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RAIDERS GONNA STICK THE PILE IN HIS FACE
March 19th, 2012 at 10:17 am
PM meet Huffy!
Why Huffy?
Because he always tackles high around the neck, shoulder area.
It’s over!!!!
LMAO
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He did take out Adrian Peterson with a little ankle biting.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Tolbert got $30+ million per year?!?!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I don’t understand how any team would want Tebow at qb nor how trading him could bring anything of worth.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Luvmarvhub Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:16 am
This will also light a fire under Phillip Rivers. He won’t like being known as the second best qb in the division and you know what, while some of you can’t stand him, I have a lot of respect for Rivers. Of all the qbs in the league, I think he most represents the fiery nature of what used to be Raiders.
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Phillip Rivers arm = Peyton’s neck…according to some anonymous scout. I’m not so sure.
Rivers has plenty of fire either way + Norv Turner=coach=choke
March 19th, 2012 at 10:20 am
575.DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Does anyone have the #’s on Tolbert’s deal?
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No, but I just read that he turned down an offer from SD that was 1mil/year more than what Carolina offered. He really wanted to rejoin Ron Rivera, play with Newton and get back to the east coast.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Is anyone really that afraid of Manning in Denver?
Manning will not have a very strong team around him. The running game was really good one Tebow came in because of the option play. If you recall many of the long runs by RBs were of draws and QB options. The D was focused on outside containment, while the middle was wide open. We also got there D coordinator, so how good will the D be in 2012. Payton will not get the broncos the playoff in the first year and won’t get them to SB at all.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Luvmarvhub Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I don’t understand how any team would want Tebow at qb nor how trading him could bring anything of worth.
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From a pure football perspective I agree but what if you are a pro team in Northern Florida who if you sign him will get 10k more season tickets sold? What if you sell 100,000 TT jersey’s with Jags on it and get royalties. NFL is much a business as it is football and AD’s “just win baby” does not apply everywhere.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Why isn’t Cork writing up Peyton Manning to the Donkeys as a new post? Randy Moss to the 49ers was postworthy. Why not this news? It’s after 10 AM PST. Cork awake yet?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I don’t understand how any team would want Tebow at qb nor how trading him could bring anything of worth.
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$$$$$, #2 Selling Jersey for 2011, crazy…
March 19th, 2012 at 10:23 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:17 am
PM meet Huffy!
Why Huffy?
Because he always tackles high around the neck, shoulder area.
It’s over!!!!
LMAO
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HUFF 2012=CB=BLITZ=TUCK PEYTONS HEAD IN HIS BUTT AND FORGET SNOW JOB
March 19th, 2012 at 10:24 am
McRaider5150 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Is anyone really that afraid of Manning in Denver?
Manning will not have a very strong team around him. The running game was really good one Tebow came in because of the option play. If you recall many of the long runs by RBs were of draws and QB options. The D was focused on outside containment, while the middle was wide open. We also got there D coordinator, so how good will the D be in 2012. Payton will not get the broncos the playoff in the first year and won’t get them to SB at all.
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Afraid no – Concerned yes. Look at what Indy was without him! Need to think about pass rush because this is going to be a pass happy division now.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:25 am
“I don’t understand how any team would want Tebow at qb nor how trading him could bring anything of worth.”
I agree 100% why would any one want him or think that he has any trade value.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:27 am
It will not be fun to play against Manning for the next 3-4 seasons…..but hey, Reggie will just have to work that much harder to win the division. And SD might implode with Rivers talking schyt and not backing it up….who knows what can happen?
Manning’s agent must have talked him out of signing with SDF due to his conflict with representing Alex Smith. No one in their right mind would have taken the Donks over SF at the point Manning is in his career.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:30 am
I’m glad.. release the hounds..
March 19th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:20 am
575.DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Does anyone have the #’s on Tolbert’s deal?
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No, but I just read that he turned down an offer from SD that was 1mil/year more than what Carolina offered. He really wanted to rejoin Ron Rivera, play with Newton and get back to the east coast.
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I think Reggie takes a RB in the late rounds or finds an undrafted RB.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:32 am
FREE AGENT MARKET=USED CAR LOT
MANNING=BLOWN HEAD GASKET
March 19th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Maybe we can play Greg Beikert at MLB against the Broncos twice a year? He knew Manning’s audibles like the back of his hand.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:33 am
The Denver Post’s Mike Klis expects the Broncos to sign free agent Dallas Clark.
It’s unclear if Klis is just speculating or passing along sourced information, but the move would be a no-brainer after the Broncos landed Peyton Manning on Monday and allowed their 2011 starting tight end Daniel Fells to sign with the Patriots. Clark would have to be a part of a tandem, however, as injuries have limited him to just 17 of a possible 32 games the past two seasons.
Related: Broncos
Source: Mike Klis on Twitter
March 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:20 am
575.DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Does anyone have the #’s on Tolbert’s deal?
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No, but I just read that he turned down an offer from SD that was 1mil/year more than what Carolina offered. He really wanted to rejoin Ron Rivera, play with Newton and get back to the east coast.
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I think Reggie takes a RB in the late rounds or finds an undrafted RB.
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he’ll have plenty of cheap options at RB maybe 2+ specialists goalline short yardage priority if no Bush or ~equivalent. If extra backups must cover kicks maybe return them too
March 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
EM just went from the cozy digs of a toasty indoor to a high altitude freezer. I like the dude as a professional but think the adjustment is gonna be rough on him. Just my 3 and a half cent opinion. It’s good for the Raiders though.
But what a good mentor for Tebow. Thats why Elway got him, to mentor Tebow, since Elway couldn’t. Just my 3 and a half cent opinion. Politics makes strange bedfellows and so does the NFL. Print it.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Denver looking for something around a 5th round pick and Tebow is due to make 1.1 million this year
March 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
peyton manning is an idiot. He could have went to the 9ners and won some superbowls. Broncos suck. Look at how that team stacks up to colts teams from the past. Raiders should not be worried. Go raiders
March 19th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Mr. Biz Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Guest, I don’t reveal my sources.
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LOL! Some of you posters are hilarious.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:35 am
But what a good mentor for Tebow. Thats why Elway got him, to mentor Tebow, since Elway couldn’t. Just my 3 and a half cent opinion. Politics makes strange bedfellows and so does the NFL. Print it.
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March 19th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Poor Donkey fans getting their hopes up! Sighhhh I hope The Raiders play Denever first game of the season again and SMASH!!!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Let’s stop whining about Peyton. In the glory years of the Raiders, we faced top-notch talent in the AFC West. It was often the strongest division in the NFL. If you have good management and a good coaching staff, it makes your team better to face the best. I truly believe that. Our defense will be facing a qb that calls plays at the line and that will act as a honing instrument for them, making them stronger when they face other teams. I am of the belief that when you don’t face the best, that’s when you get lazy.
In addition, the Raiders are trying to get a stadium deal worked out too. Facing Denver with Manning assures one more game of a sell-out and we need all the sell-outs and season ticket sales we can get.
The Raiders are a project under first year management. They have offensive tools that hopefully are used properly to hide first year defensive weaknesses, but I am counting on Reggie and Allen to show us that the defense is better than last year’s because that defense had two problems, stupidity and lack of heart.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Pu$$ies.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Broncos just went from 70-1 odds to win the SB, to 10-1!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Good morning Raccoon.
Destroy the Donkeys and their QBs!
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What up O Ee O Ee Oo??
We seem to have a better time with pocket passers than running QB’s but PM is a whole nother beast.
Break his Neck ShoNuff!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
“Sounds like Jeff Saturday, Dallas Clark and Joseph Addai will be headed to Denver too.”
If that actually happens, I’ll be disappointed in Elway. Taking half of another’s teams offense is no way to show that you yourself are a good GM; it’s akin to a writer who doesn’t legally commit plagiarism but who does steal ideas. Shows a lack of creativity.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Why fear Manning? Two Neck surguries and off the field for a year.. Please, NFL, give us that Mon night opener again.. I’m ordering a CODE BLACK.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Question?
Do we go after a center?
Or do we go after a RT?
I like………
Veldy – Heyer(saves us some $) – Wiz – Briesel – FA (Collins?)
March 19th, 2012 at 10:41 am
The Raiders are a project under first year management. They have offensive tools that hopefully are used properly to hide first year defensive weaknesses, but I am counting on Reggie and Allen to show us that the defense is better than last year’s because that defense had two problems, stupidity and lack of heart.
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look at roster D=rat bitten swiss cheese 2011-current
but it’s still March
March 19th, 2012 at 10:41 am
592.1960AutumnWind Says:
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Afraid no – Concerned yes. Look at what Indy was without him! Need to think about pass rush because this is going to be a pass happy division now.
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I agree that a little concern is warrented because of the QB that Manning was pre-neck surgery. He also helped build that indy team. If Denver was a team like the Ravens, Niners, or Vikings, I would say look out, but Denver did not impress me at all.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Tebow has two things going for him still that Manning does not. 1) Health 2) Mobility.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
“Phillip Rivers arm = Peyton’s neck…according to some anonymous scout. I’m not so sure.”
Hmm. Maybe. If so, it shows he played hurt.
We’ve our own concerns about Carson’s elbow, many intimating that by the end of last year he wasn’t throwing with the zip he showed Hue in the beginning.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
PlunkforHOF Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Why fear Manning? Two Neck surguries and off the field for a year.. Please, NFL, give us that Mon night opener again.. I’m ordering a CODE BLACK.
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And cold weather and high altitude and Tebow fan club members.
Strange move other than high price mentor. All teams fear Tebow except the Raiders cause the Raiders got it goin. Denver needs more oxegen in the brain. Obviously EM does to.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Last time we played the Colts, Rolando McClain baited Peyton into two INT’s.
Rolando has his number!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Our line may do better aginst Payton then we are giving them credit for, if they can brreak that pocket down.
Now our DBs, on the other hand, are toast!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:44 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Tebow has two things going for him still that Manning does not. 1) Health 2) Mobility.
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And the Tebow fan club. Elway needs oxegen too.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:44 am
luvmarvhub Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
“Phillip Rivers arm = Peyton’s neck…according to some anonymous scout. I’m not so sure.”
Hmm. Maybe. If so, it shows he played hurt.
We’ve our own concerns about Carson’s elbow, many intimating that by the end of last year he wasn’t throwing with the zip he showed Hue in the beginning.
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CP still had that zip, but balls were being caught by opposing teams.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Tim Tebow isn’t going to net much in a trade, especially with a 1st rounder contract.
I’m thinking the Donkeys will take a 5th or 6th in return for him … everybody knows they can’t wait to get rid of him. hand tipped
March 19th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I would offer a 2013 4th rounder to the Donks for Tebow.
He certainly emerged as the best backup QB in the NFL last year.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Last time we played the Colts, Rolando McClain baited Peyton into two INT’s.
Rolando has his number!!!
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I don’t recall.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Last time we played the Colts, Rolando McClain baited Peyton into two INT’s.
Rolando has his number!!!
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prove it Romac
March 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Looks like other teams might due what Al did, overrate Wimbley. It’s hard not to, looking at him and at a few of a his plays. They should look at how often he simply disappears.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I would offer a 2013 4th rounder to the Donks for Tebow.
He certainly emerged as the best backup QB in the NFL last year.
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Also he’d be the best possible Michael Bush replacement available.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
“Manning will not have a very strong team around him.”
There were many years in Indy he didn’t have a strong team around him. The key is his line and his receivers…and timing, which means practice.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
We’ve our own concerns about Carson’s elbow, many intimating that by the end of last year he wasn’t throwing with the zip he showed Hue in the beginning.
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tell Hue. Not sure it’s a problem short term but it could be in future
March 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
DMAC:
LT: Veldheer
LG: Barksdale/ Heyer
C: Wiz
RG: Brisiel
RT: A Collins/ Campbell
March 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
I can see it now… PM implodes with a bad donkey team featuring an aging poor D, subpar WR corps and the Tebow chants in Denver will get louder and louder…..John Elway has mortgaged his future, and by years end will get run out of town, you heard it here first!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Seeing Alex Smith’s contract and some of these others, pretty suprising that Campbell hurried and took the Bears offer.
Than on the other hand, it isn’t that suprising. Instead of hanging in the proverbial FA “pocket” he quickly bailed and checked it down for the 4 yard completion (1 year, $3 million deal).
Typical Soup.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Tebows fan club just moved out of denver.. The fans like winning more than tebowing..
March 19th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Let’s sign Tebow to replace Kam.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Reggie McKenzie doesn’t strike me as the kind of GM who likes having a media s**tstorm surrounding his team, so I doubt he would trade for Tim Tebow.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:49 am
633.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Seeing Alex Smith’s contract and some of these others, pretty suprising that Campbell hurried and took the Bears offer.
Than on the other hand, it isn’t that suprising. Instead of hanging in the proverbial FA “pocket” he quickly bailed and checked it down for the 4 yard completion (1 year, $3 million deal).
Typical Soup.
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lol
March 19th, 2012 at 10:50 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I would offer a 2013 4th rounder to the Donks for Tebow.
He certainly emerged as the best backup QB in the NFL last year.
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Also he’d be the best possible Michael Bush replacement available.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
We need a big RB to be DMAC backup.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
DMAC:
LT: Veldheer
LG: Barksdale/ Heyer
C: Wiz
RG: Brisiel
RT: A Collins/ Campbell
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I can dig it, but I like Heyer starting, unless Barks earns that spot.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:50 am
#588, good point. Isn’t that team one of the teams that Los Angeles hopes to lure?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I will say that Porter’s leverage with the Raiders just went up. Reggie Mac has got to sign another legit corner now with Manning in Denver.
I mean, he did before, but now it’s REALLY important.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Sign Tebow to replace Bush.
Tebow = Hillis
March 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Carson didnt lose any zip on the ball.. watch game 16 again..
March 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Teblow + Curry in one locker room = People’s Temple that would end badly…..
March 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Seeing Alex Smith’s contract and some of these others, pretty suprising that Campbell hurried and took the Bears offer.
Than on the other hand, it isn’t that suprising. Instead of hanging in the proverbial FA “pocket” he quickly bailed and checked it down for the 4 yard completion (1 year, $3 million deal).
Typical Soup.
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Ahaha. Nice.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:52 am
643.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Carson didnt lose any zip on the ball.. watch game 16 again..
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Yeah, no zip on the ball and throws for 400 + yards….come on people!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Teblow + Curry in one locker room = People’s Temple that would end badly…..
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LOL, oh man, the locker room would turn into Jonestown
March 19th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Bush checking out Seattle?
They aren’t going to throw him much money or guaranteed playing time.
Are players willing to take less pay and play, to share a sideline with the great Tom Cable?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Signing Manning will not end well for Elway and his donkeys. PRINT IT!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:53 am
637. Bingo
March 19th, 2012 at 10:54 am
March 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
DMAC:
LT: Veldheer
LG: Barksdale/ Heyer
C: Wiz
RG: Brisiel
RT: A Collins/ Campbell
Heyer not zone blocker
Barksdale not guard maybe ZBS RT
Big Bruce Campbell = So far, so little … coach him up
A. Collins = FA was Bengals backup
I know many of you don’t agree but I think Khalif Barnes gave us a pretty good year at RT. Keeping him motivated and his head in the game may always be an issue, but the tackle market is pretty thin, so he may be back whether y’all like it or not. He was signed by Cable when we ran a ZBS and he can do the job if he wants to.
Last year our OL had low sacks & good run blocking but high penalties. Not bad. I think a key was bringing a lot of decent players in to compete best start worst cut
March 19th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Are players willing to take less pay and play, to share a sideline with the great Tom Cable?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
March 19th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I know many of you don’t agree but I think Khalif Barnes gave us a pretty good year at RT.
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I agree, but he cost us way more w/ those bone headed penalties. Maybe proper coaching can help that.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Stop promoting Barnes. You People are making me sick!
Barnes?!
Should we bring Harris too?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I don’t understand references to Denver’s defense as “poor.”
Their defense is what kept them in games all year, with the exception of a bad start. They grew stronger and stronger, and that is what John Fox is known for. Never underestimate what he can do with even mediocre talent, much less a superstar like Vonn Miller.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Maybe B Sims wants another chance!
March 19th, 2012 at 10:57 am
manning should retire. He will not win with broncos. He’s only got maybe 2 if any good years left. Tells me he does not want to win. Money money money
March 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
“Carson didnt lose any zip on the ball.. watch game 16 again..”
Hope you’re right. Some said, and I hope they are right, that he simply learned he had to use touch a bit more.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Barnes = Sims = Harris
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I guesas we will be stocking up on pass rushers now for the Denver game. I would keep a constant rotation pass rushers on Manning.
“LET THE BEATINGS BEGIN!!!!!”
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I don’t understand references to Denver’s defense as “poor.”
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Do these people also realize they are knocking our HC?
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I got $20 or a few beers, that Huffy ends PM season.
Anyone?????????
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
655.luvmarvhub Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I don’t understand references to Denver’s defense as “poor.”
Their defense is what kept them in games all year, with the exception of a bad start. They grew stronger and stronger, and that is what John Fox is known for. Never underestimate what he can do with even mediocre talent, much less a superstar like Vonn Miller.
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Once Dawkins went down their defense looked pretty bad. Really bad to end the year actually.
Up and down season for them I would say. They did keep them in some Teblow games initially.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Doctors like having good reputations.. Peytons head isnt on loose.. The new question is how do we win 12-13 games. Cause 8-8 or 9-7 wont get it done.
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Stop promoting Barnes. You People are making me sick!
Barnes?!
Should we bring Harris too?
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Dude, check it out
Preseason 2011, 1st game, 1st quarter, Barnes committed like 3 false starts in 4 plays.
Was at best, false start waiting to end
Now at worst false start waiting to happen
Can’t say that’s not improvement
March 19th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Barnes = Sims = Harris
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Not a big Barnes fan, but he was better than those 2 clowns.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:00 am
I hope Peyton gets some nice Denver seasonal weather this year for his home games.
Would love nothing more than to watch him agonize through a 12 degree, Mid-December home game, for a 6-8 team.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
LMAO AlzadoX.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
660.CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I guesas we will be stocking up on pass rushers now for the Denver game. I would keep a constant rotation pass rushers on Manning.
“LET THE BEATINGS BEGIN!!!!!”
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Lol, come on man, everyone knows Manning almost always gets rid of the ball before anyone can touch him….he has been doing so for years, and it is unlikely to change.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
WHAT MANNING TO DENVER MEANS TO OAKLAND
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
March 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Post of the day:
RaidO Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
peyton manning is an idiot. He could have went to the 9ners and won some superbowls. Broncos suck. Look at how that team stacks up to colts teams from the past. Raiders should not be worried. Go raiders
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
We don’t need to worry about Peyton Manning, Rolando McClain has that one covered.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
SF even picked up Manningham????
Manning is an idiot!!!! I would have been all over SF.
They already have a squad. That team could have been elite!!!
LMAO!!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hey Alex, we were just messing around.
- 49ers
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
660.CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I guesas we will be stocking up on pass rushers now for the Denver game. I would keep a constant rotation pass rushers on Manning.
“LET THE BEATINGS BEGIN!!!!!”
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Lol, come on man, everyone knows Manning almost always gets rid of the ball before anyone can touch him….he has been doing so for years, and it is unlikely to change.
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All it takes is 1 hit from Huffy around the neck/shoulder area.
It’s over!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Devers d was verry good. They had to play like 100 downs a game..
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
McRaider5150 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Is anyone really that afraid of Manning in Denver?
Manning will not have a very strong team around him. The running game was really good one Tebow came in because of the option play. If you recall many of the long runs by RBs were of draws and QB options. The D was focused on outside containment, while the middle was wide open. We also got there D coordinator, so how good will the D be in 2012. Payton will not get the broncos the playoff in the first year and won’t get them to SB at all.
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Denver was a strong enough team to win the AFC West last year.
Not that they sucked. But, I think Manning would’ve had a better chance at winning it all in Tennessee or SFO.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
#678, cause we’re gonna get to kick his ass 2X per year.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
One hit from huff.. Doubtful.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
One hit from huff.. Doubtful.
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Really?
Have you seen how Huffy tackles?
March 19th, 2012 at 11:04 am
We will crush those Bastards!!
PM just made the worst decision of his life.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
JFB
Sooooooo sorry about your boys Carlisle and Tebow.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Bring coup back as a back-up!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Khalif Barnes is the bomb
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Stop promoting Barnes. You People are making me sick!
Barnes?!
Should we bring Harris too?
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Dude, check it out
Preseason 2011, 1st game, 1st quarter, Barnes committed like 3 false starts in 4 plays.
Was at best, false start waiting to end
Now at worst false start waiting to happen
Can’t say that’s not improvement
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Come on Dakota!!! I was trying to be optimistic man. I am trying to pump up my team man and energize the base!!!! : )
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669.Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
660.CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I guesas we will be stocking up on pass rushers now for the Denver game. I would keep a constant rotation pass rushers on Manning.
“LET THE BEATINGS BEGIN!!!!!”
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Lol, come on man, everyone knows Manning almost always gets rid of the ball before anyone can touch him….he has been doing so for years, and it is unlikely to change.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
679.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
One hit from huff.. Doubtful.
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Yeah, there is a better chance that Amy Trask takes Manning out with a puzzy fart from the sidelines than there is that Huff would take him out with a hit.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Luvmarvhub Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I don’t understand references to Denver’s defense as “poor.”
Their defense is what kept them in games all year, with the exception of a bad start. They grew stronger and stronger, and that is what John Fox is known for. Never underestimate what he can do with even mediocre talent, much less a superstar like Vonn Miller.
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Their defense was average statistically and inconsistent. In some games like the Miami game they played really well. The reason DA is so well thought of is they were historically bad the year before with some significant but not earth shattering changes in personal.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Denver’s Defense overachieved last season, and I don’t expect them to repeat.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Come on Dakota!!! I was trying to be optimistic man. I am trying to pump up my team man and energize the base!!!! : )
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Oh sorry….carry on!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
679.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
One hit from huff.. Doubtful.
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Yeah, there is a better chance that Amy Trask takes Manning out with a puzzy fart from the sidelines than there is that Huff would take him out with a hit.
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I guess you’ve never payed any attention as to how Huffy makes his tackles.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Manning is really really good but if he moves his feet he can be picked off. That is the key to make him move in the pocket.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:07 am
686. Ha
March 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
West Virginia OLB Bruce Irvin was arrested Saturday for destruction of property, the day after the school’s Pro Day.
Irvin reportedly destroyed a sign at a Jimmy John’s restaurant in Morgantown. The former junior college transfer already had a troubled past by being ruled academically ineligible out of high school followed by a stint in juvenile jail. Irvin is a pass rush specialist with elite athleticism, but shies away from contact on the edge. This news may solidify Irvin as a third-day pick.
Source: CBS Sports
March 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
690.DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
679.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
One hit from huff.. Doubtful.
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Yeah, there is a better chance that Amy Trask takes Manning out with a puzzy fart from the sidelines than there is that Huff would take him out with a hit.
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I guess you’ve never payed any attention as to how Huffy makes his tackles.
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With puzzy farts?
March 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
676.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Devers d was verry good. They had to play like 100 downs a game..
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Exactly. That’s how tehy duped Peyton to sign with them.
Elway to Manning “Our defense held us in games while our offense went 3 & out for the 1st 3 quarters. With you at the helm, you can take off the pads every 4th quarter!”
March 19th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
690.DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
679.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
One hit from huff.. Doubtful.
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Yeah, there is a better chance that Amy Trask takes Manning out with a puzzy fart from the sidelines than there is that Huff would take him out with a hit.
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I guess you’ve never payed any attention as to how Huffy makes his tackles.
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With puzzy farts?
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Nope, guess again.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:09 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Manning is an idiot!!!! I would have been all over SF.
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1) Manning doesn’t want to compete his bro unless it’s the SB
2) He also has serious man-love for Elway
Conclusion: you’re right. he’s an idiot
March 19th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Wow, Peyton Manning playing for John Elway. Nice.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Manning averages like 11 wins per yr.. Thats including his sht rookie yr.. He will 100 times harder to stop than tebow.. We need 11- 12 wins for a trip to the playoffs.. The docs wouldnt let him play if his neck was shot..
March 19th, 2012 at 11:11 am
695.Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
676.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Devers d was verry good. They had to play like 100 downs a game..
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Exactly. That’s how tehy duped Peyton to sign with them.
Elway to Manning “Our defense held us in games while our offense went 3 & out for the 1st 3 quarters. With you at the helm, you can take off the pads every 4th quarter!”
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Now I have not looked this up myself, but one talking head in particular used to talk about how Teblow and their running attack saved Denver’s defense by winning the time of possession battle.
Like I said, that is from Skip Bayless……not verified.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:11 am
700?
March 19th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Last Peyton Manning vs. Raiders memory I have is Peyton doing the naked bootleg and Shaunessy crashing down hard, and that helped Peyton put the game away. Hoping Shaunessy gets a chance to squish him this time!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The docs wouldnt let him play if his neck was shot..
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IF IT AIN’T SHOT, SHOOT IT. NO BOUNTY NEEDED
March 19th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Forget about Denver’s D from last year. Their dc is our coach now. It won’t be the same.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:15 am
629.luvmarvhub Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
“Manning will not have a very strong team around him.”
There were many years in Indy he didn’t have a strong team around him. The key is his line and his receivers…and timing, which means practice.
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Please remind me how long it took him to win a SB? For most of his career they had a very good running game and TOP NOTCH WRs like Harrison and TE. He also played in a Dome. Oh and he also wasn’t 36 with 2 neck surgeries in the bag.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:15 am
I still can’t believe P Manning outran Matt. Matt must be SLOW.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:16 am
“Manning will not have a very strong team around him.”
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Manning will not have a very strong arm on him
March 19th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Wow!
I’m surrounded by Puzzies! (you know who you are)
March 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Add a DE with speed to get after Manning.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:11 am
695.Carl Weathers Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
676.Marks hair Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Devers d was verry good. They had to play like 100 downs a game..
@@@@@@@@@
Exactly. That’s how tehy duped Peyton to sign with them.
Elway to Manning “Our defense held us in games while our offense went 3 & out for the 1st 3 quarters. With you at the helm, you can take off the pads every 4th quarter!”
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Now I have not looked this up myself, but one talking head in particular used to talk about how Teblow and their running attack saved Denver’s defense by winning the time of possession battle.
Like I said, that is from Skip Bayless……not verified.
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Skip Bayless is a Tebow Worshiper and Talking head he sometimes fills in on that Pardon the interupttion thing. He does not know squat but talks really well sort of like Mike Greenburg.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Bring coup back as a back-up!
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Who???
March 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Wow!
I’m surrounded by Puzzies! (you know who you are)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lucky Bastard!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:18 am
RaiderDuck Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Bring coup back as a back-up!
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Who???
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Carlisle
March 19th, 2012 at 11:19 am
I think we need to go 3-4. Our 4 man rush doesnt get enough pressure to stop guys like peyton brees rodgers or brady.. We need to confuse him & blitz effectivly.. And I like the 3-4s ability to hide whos comming.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Was it the defense getting Denver off the field and giving it to the offense or the offense keeping the ball in possession. My guess is the former! Many of the runs were big plays not sustaining short runs to keep drives alive.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Kate Scott @katetscott Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Ha! Here’s the “F” video. RT @tyduffy: News Anchor Drops F-Bomb After Hearing Broncos Signed Manning http://is.gd/ZLwBJ0 [via @JimmyTraina]
March 19th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Wow!
I’m surrounded by Puzzies! (you know who you are)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lucky Bastard!!!!
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Not the type of puzzy men enjoy, and some will kill for unfortunately.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Trenton Baker @cerebreate Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Still seems like Joe Namath going to the Rams. RT @VittorioTafur: Elway probably Tebowing right now he’s so happy to get Manning #broncos
March 19th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Elvis Dumervil @EKD92 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
SMH…What a power move! @MillerLite40 let the hunting begin.
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
March 19th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Has Alex Smith signed with anyone else yet, effing the Whiners??? hahahahahaha
March 19th, 2012 at 11:21 am
So macho.. That wins lots of games..
March 19th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Ian R. Rapoport @RapSheet Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
According to http://PreGame.com, Broncos Super Bowl odds went from 70 to 1 in February to 10 to 1 with #MileHighManning
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
March 19th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Who kills for puzzy?
I’m guessing another puzzy.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Lindsay Jones @PostBroncos Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Let the recuiting begin RT @WillisMcGahee: To all my free agents across the nfl, I think u know what time it is. It’s about to go down…
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
March 19th, 2012 at 11:23 am
He will be stupid not to sign with the Niners…however, If I were him, knowing that he would have been dangled…I would now sign with Miami…
However, I doubt it!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Who kills for puzzy?
I’m guessing another puzzy.
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It happens
March 19th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Honestly I’m more worried about KC over Dungver. Just sayin.
Looking foward to MNF opener when the Raiders knock Peyton around and welcome him back to the NFL.
Perhaps making his comeback really short lived!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Peyton is going to find out what his baby bro has known for years, what it’s like to play in a division where every intra-divisional game is a blood feud.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Who kills for puzzy?
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I have smashed quite a few , even seen them bleed for a week. but never killed one !!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:25 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Come on Dakota!!! I was trying to be optimistic man. I am trying to pump up my team man and energize the base!!!! : )
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669.Dakota Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
660.CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I guesas we will be stocking up on pass rushers now for the Denver game. I would keep a constant rotation pass rushers on Manning.
“LET THE BEATINGS BEGIN!!!!!”
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Lol, come on man, everyone knows Manning almost always gets rid of the ball before anyone can touch him….he has been doing so for years, and it is unlikely to change.
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Referee Ed Hochuli turns on his mike at midfield:
“Personal foul, number 92 on the defense, roughing the quarterback, fifteen yards, and can we please get an ambulance onto the field….”
March 19th, 2012 at 11:25 am
new post
March 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Wow
Apparently the season is over Denver went 12-4 and is contending for a Superbowl. BSPN is going to eat this up.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7709400/nfl-peyton-manning-put-denver-broncos-control-afc-west
March 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
My only hope is if Manning really isn’t as healed as he thinks he is and Denver gets stuck without a QB scene and a bad contract.
If Manning is fully health, that man carried the entire team to victory himself even when the team around him sucked (witness the record when he got hurt last year compared to the previous 10 years in a row).
If he’s playing even close to how he played in Indy, than Denver will be tough to beat.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Donkey’s bring in ‘The GIMP”…
PeGonna be open season on that pencil necked geek.
Love the Tebow Drama that Elway’sted has created.
Gonna divide that fan base in half…
March 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Like the movie “Necessary Roughness”
Illegal shiatsu hit to the right…
March 19th, 2012 at 11:27 am
722. And theres the reality of the sitch…
March 19th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Oh wait Denver is going to repeat what they did with Elway and their running back back then. The next two seasons are over. I wonder if they will cheat the salary cap again like the did back then?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7709400/nfl-peyton-manning-put-denver-broncos-control-afc-west
March 19th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Manning to Denver — NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:28 am
“Lol, come on man, everyone knows Manning almost always gets rid of the ball before anyone can touch him….he has been doing so for years, and it is unlikely to change.”
Am thinking the same thing, that once he gets down timing with receivers, it’s not our line that has to perform, it’s our linebackers and secondary. I think the secondary might take shape, but our linebackers worry the heck out of me.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:30 am
733. Yes! Hello! He ALWAYS wins the division.. We are just trying not to get anothr 1500yrd in penalties…
March 19th, 2012 at 11:30 am
You have got to get Manning to move his feet. He is not the same person when running or scrambling. Exact opposite of Tebow. Remember this guy has thrown a ton of interceptions. Maybe we can get TP in town for a repeat performance!!!!
March 19th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Teebow to the Raiders (We still have a 5th left).
March 19th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Back to work….
March 19th, 2012 at 11:31 am
WHAT DO U WANT TO BET THE 1ST OAKLAND VS DENVER GAME WILL BE PRIM-TIME.POSSABLY EVEN THE SUN. OR MON NIGHT OPENER.THEY WILL WANT TO GET MANNING EARLY WHILE HE IS STILL HEALTHY..
March 19th, 2012 at 11:31 am
New Post
March 19th, 2012 at 11:35 am
#705: “Please remind me how long it took him to win a SB? For most of his career they had a very good running game and TOP NOTCH WRs like Harrison and TE. He also played in a Dome. Oh and he also wasn’t 36 with 2 neck surgeries in the bag.”
When the running game was lost, he still made playoffs. Furthermore, as far as Raiders and Raider fans are concerned, he doesn’t have to go to win the Super Bowl or even get there in order for him to be a success in our eyes. All he has to do is win the AFC West.
That being said, I am glad he signed with the Broncos. I believe it spurs our franchise to get better, and we’ve beaten him before. I agree with others that KC will be good and one never knows about the Chargers.
In fact, face it, no one knows about any team. The Giants could be mediocre next year.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Looking forward to seeing the Raiders play Manning twice a year…
Of course the talkers are claiming the Afc west is now all the Donkeys….
I’m not sold on Manning being the same manning we were use too…4 surgerys means the first 3 didn’t help ….. I say Bring him on… Let’s see what he’s got..until he proves he’s 100 % it’s hype… Just like( Tebow) Baby Jesus was …… If our teams is where we want it to be I don’t care who the donkeys Qb is….fk the Donkeys… Fear Nobody …
March 19th, 2012 at 11:42 am
HairyBush Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Honestly I’m more worried about KC over Dungver. Just sayin.
Looking foward to MNF opener when the Raiders knock Peyton around and welcome him back to the NFL.
Perhaps making his comeback really short lived!
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We actually now have suddenly a really strong AFC West again. Any team literally could win. SD has a good team, but we’re all sure they will somehow manage to choke.
KC was the team I was most worried about (they got some good signings and are a young and solid team).
Denver now has the QB who single-handedly brought the Colts wins for 10 years in a row.
We have potential. Lot of question marks. Hope we bring in some more players so we can win this division.
March 19th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Khalif Barnes 2011 Raiders RT sacks allowed 3.5 for 15 yards; penalties 11 false start 6 holds 3 16 games started. Not bad stats
Last year our OL had low sacks & good run blocking but high penalties. Not bad. I think a key was bringing a lot of decent players in to compete best start worst cut.
Khalif less holds than most of our OLs in 2011 sad to say
http://www.profootballweekly.com/players/khalif-barnes-148729/
Raider O Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Stop promoting Barnes. You People are making me sick!
Barnes?!
Should we bring Harris too?
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Alzado X Says:
Dude, check it out
Preseason 2011, 1st game, 1st quarter, Barnes committed like 3 false starts in 4 plays.
Was at best, false start waiting to end
Now at worst false start waiting to happen
Can’t say that’s not improvement
I know many of you don’t agree but I think Khalif Barnes gave us a pretty good year at RT. Keeping him motivated and his head in the game may always be an issue, but the tackle market is pretty thin, so he may be back whether y’all like it or not. He was signed by Cable when we ran a ZBS and he can do the job if he wants to.
March 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
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