Lawson on Raiders’ radar?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, March 24th, 2012 at 12:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Former 49ers linebacker Manny Lawson, who played last season with the Cincinnati Bengals, could be a possibility to take over the outside linebacker spot vacated by Kamerion Wimbley.
Following the Stanford Pro Day Thursday, Raiders coach Reggie McKenzie said his first priority was finding an outside linebacker and that the club had a viable starter at every other position.
Scout.com reported Lawson was drawing interest from Cleveland, Oakland and Indianapolis.
Although not the pass rusher Wimbley is, Lawson is regarded as a solid player in terms of setting an edge for defending the run _ a Raiders priority.
The Raiders defense is expected to be multiple under coach Dennis Allen and coordinator Jason Tarver (who coached on the 49ers staff when Lawson was there). The bulk of Wimbley’s pass rushing came with his hand down as a defensive ned in a nickel defense.
McKenzie said Thursday he didn’t expect many moves before the draft takes place. He also said the Raiders were well under $4 million against the salary cap (the figure is probably in the $2 million range after the re-signing of tackle Khalif Barnes). Under McKenzie, the Raiders will be less inclined to push the envelope on the cap and to massive restructures, playing it closer to vest financially.
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March 24th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
1 NATION
March 24th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Jerry, you do weekends now???
March 24th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
In the off season no less…
March 24th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Get him signed, the more linebackers the better. We need competition at all positions, big names or not bring’em all in and fight it out.
March 24th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
sign him. solid player.
March 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Why is it necessary to mention in the article that he isn’t the pass rusher Wimbley is?
Lawson would be playing outside linebacker….not defensive end….Wimbley is and has always been a 3/4 backer forced to play in a 4/3 (for Oakland) and thus played defensive end in the nickle….it would be fair to say Wimbley was a defensive end, since the majority of his snaps came with his hand down in the 5 technique….
Sign Lawson…unless we have our eye on a kid in the draft who our personnel department feels is a diamond in the rough.
March 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Right Defensive End…in the Titans 4/3
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ten/depthchart?nfl-pos=defense
March 24th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
anther slow, untalented wanna be….
March 24th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Judging from Reggie’s Q&A, I’m surprised we have $ to sign anyone. Sounded like we were just about flat broke.
Do the contracts we give to our draft picks count against this years cap? If so, we’re kinda screwed.
March 24th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
******BREAKING NEWS*********
Reports are coming in!!!
The Raiders have traded Carson Palmer, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Matt Shaugnessy, and next years 2nd rnd pick for QB Ben Rothliesberger and WR Mike Wallace!!
WOW!!!!!!
March 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
anther slow, untalented wanna be….
You are aware he’s one of the fastest LB’ers in the NFL right? and a great run defender to go along with that speed..
March 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
anther slow, untalented wanna be….
You are aware he’s one of the fastest LB’ers in the NFL right? and a great run defender to go along with that speed..
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If you’re going to go quoting actual facts, then that’s really going to undermine the ability for the automatic naysayers to contribute here. All that will be left for them will be for frequent tangents into politics, religion, race and other non-Raiders or even non-football subjects.
March 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Reggies Freckled Face Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
******BREAKING NEWS*********
Reports are coming in!!!
The Raiders have traded Carson Palmer, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Matt Shaugnessy, and next years 2nd rnd pick for QB Ben Rothliesberger and WR Mike Wallace!!
WOW!!!!!!
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You are a pathetic waste of life. Just thought you should know that.
March 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
LOL, Raiderduck
your just mad that you spent time googling this trade
March 24th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Reggies Freckled Face Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
LOL, Raiderduck
your just mad that you spent time googling this trade
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Wrong. No need. Anything that you post is, ipso facto, completely false. No research needed. Now go play outside.
March 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Thanks for the update Jer!
March 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDuck = troll feeder
March 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
You are my puppet. I pull strings and you sing me a song.
March 24th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Reggies Freckled Face Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
You are my puppet. I pull strings and you sing me a song.
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No you pull your own string, like that annoying doll Steve Martin talked about in “Planes, Trains & Automobiles.”
March 24th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
You are validating my point.
Just keep on singing, my little puppet.
March 24th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Lawson would be an improvement over Kam, and a sight cheaper as well. I’m assuming Reggie’s going to worry about a backup RB in the draft and maybe take somebody’s late cut as the backup QB. That just leaves maybe a backup Center in round 4 or 5.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
ESPN’s Bill W. says Lawson is also on Green Bay’s radar. Not good.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Looks like Big John didn’t retire after all. His agent said today that the reports that he did were untrue.
Good luck to him. He was a real pro here and I hope he finds that last contract before he hangs ‘em up for good.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
If lawson can come cheap
March 24th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
The Raiders have announced they have added Zak Gilbert as director of media relations, and named Mike Taylor director of public affairs.
Gilbert held the position of chief assistant in public relations with the Green Bay Packers for seven years from 2001-07 where he was put in charge of the often difficult task of handing publicity for Brett Favre. He held the position under Raiders General Manager Reggie McKenzie who was the Packers Director of Player Personnel during that time.
For the past four years he has served as the director of athletic media relations at Colorado State University. He has another connection with the Raiders as he worked with Tim Skipper who is the brother of Raiders running backs coach, Kelly Skipper and former Raiders quarterbacks coach Jim McElwain.
Prior to his work with the Packers and at CSU, he worked for the Colorado Rockies from 1998-2001, including three seasons as Assistant Public Relations Director and was on the staff with the Denver Broncos from 1997-98.
Gilbert will begin his duties at the league meetings this week.
Mike Taylor, who has been with the Raiders organization since 1988, welcomes Gilbert to the Raiders organization.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
If we don’t have that much cap space, how are we going to sign any other FAs plus our draft picks??
Lawson would be a good signing however. Nothing flashy, but solid enough. Our whole offseason has been that way. This team is going to look completely different on defense next year. Not a bad thing I guess. I just hope it plays a whole lot different as well. Though you can’t get much worse than what we saw last year.
I think we are picking RB, C, CB, G, DT, LB with our picks. Not necessarily in that order, but based on the best player available at each position at the time.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Well at least Reggie is trying to keep with one old Raider tradition.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
JHenderson should just retire. His tank is on empty and what he brings to the table would be a waste of one of the available 53 spots on the active roster. Oakland is NOT going to pay him $4M for the season. We have better places to spend that cash like Lawson or a host of others.
If need be, Reggie can still restructure any of the following to make room:
• Seabass
• Lechler
• DMac
• Romac
• DHB
• Houston
• Branch – Long term contract
We still have plenty of CAP wiggle room.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Violent Hands Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
The Raiders have announced they have added Zak Gilbert as director of media relations, and named Mike Taylor director of public affairs.
Gilbert held the position of chief assistant in public relations with the Green Bay Packers for seven years from 2001-07 where he was put in charge of the often difficult task of handing publicity for Brett Favre. He held the position under Raiders General Manager Reggie McKenzie who was the Packers Director of Player Personnel during that time.
For the past four years he has served as the director of athletic media relations at Colorado State University. He has another connection with the Raiders as he worked with Tim Skipper who is the brother of Raiders running backs coach, Kelly Skipper and former Raiders quarterbacks coach Jim McElwain.
Prior to his work with the Packers and at CSU, he worked for the Colorado Rockies from 1998-2001, including three seasons as Assistant Public Relations Director and was on the staff with the Denver Broncos from 1997-98.
Gilbert will begin his duties at the league meetings this week.
Mike Taylor, who has been with the Raiders organization since 1988, welcomes Gilbert to the Raiders organization.
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Wow. Moving into the 21st century of public relations. No more Al and John Herrera unnecessarily antagonizing the press.
March 24th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
And the rebuilding of the organization continues. We’re beginning to have something resembling a legitimate NFL front office.
March 24th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Lawson would be a solid pick up. AL must have put signing the fastest LB in the league in his will.
March 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
“Lawson on Raiders radar?”
Does a bear defecate in the woods?
Come on Jerry! You walking through this stuff?
A defensive end/linebacker?
We’d better be interested in him.
March 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
It’s about time moderator.
I was getting tired of re-writing that.
March 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Hell Yeah! make it happen Reggie Mac.
Aren’t we glad we got rid of that Defensive Ned Wimbley.
I hate defensive neds…
March 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
JB Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
JHenderson should just retire.
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What do you care if he retires or not? Man’s got a right ot make a living. I agree that we don’t need to bring him back (probably couldn’t anyway), but he was a pro and did his job while he was here. If he can land somewhere for another year or two before calling it quits, I say good for him.
March 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I’ve been a little concerned with the chatter on this blog about using J.Ford as trade bait.
I don’t like it.
Wes Welker for example-5′-9″
March 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
36.Raiders for life Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I’ve been a little concerned with the chatter on this blog about using J.Ford as trade bait.
I don’t like it.
Wes Welker for example-5′-9″
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Rest assured that Reggie McKenzie does not look to this blog for advice on how to run the Raiders.
Thank God.
March 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
EMRaiders Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
If we don’t have that much cap space, how are we going to sign any other FAs plus our draft picks??
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Anyone coming on board now would come cheap. Draft picks or FA’s. Probably only a few hundred grand each. If you call that cheap.
March 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Jeesh, Maybe its a good thing that hue traded away all of our 1st round draft picks…
We’d have no cashish to sign em!
March 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I think this is the Raiders remaining URFA list. Don’t quote me on this
Reg could make some cap if any of these players are waived or cut.
56 Blackstock, Darryl LB 6-3 245 28 6 Virginia
7 Boller, Kyle QB 6-3 220 30 9 California
27 Giordano, Matt DB 5-11 210 29 8 California
52 Groves, Quentin LB 6-3 265 27 5 Auburn
75 Heyer, Stephon OT 6-6 330 28 6 Maryland
84 Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR 6-2 200 34 12 Oregon State
94 Moss, Jarvis DE 6-7 260 27 6 Florida
21 Sheppard, Lito DB 5-10 195 30 11 Florida
March 24th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Hey Jer,
I didn’t know wimbly was a defensive ned. I’m not even sure what a defensive ned does. Thanks for the post but could you please explain what a defensive ned does, thanks
March 24th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
arkraider Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Hey Jer,
I didn’t know wimbly was a defensive ned. I’m not even sure what a defensive ned does. Thanks for the post but could you please explain what a defensive ned does, thanks
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Thank god reggie mac is getting rid of all the defensive neds.
I think defensive neds are people who only play well against back ups
March 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Raiders for life Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I think this is the Raiders remaining URFA list. Don’t quote me on this
Reg could make some cap if any of these players are waived or cut.
56 Blackstock, Darryl LB 6-3 245 28 6 Virginia
7 Boller, Kyle QB 6-3 220 30 9 California
27 Giordano, Matt DB 5-11 210 29 8 California
52 Groves, Quentin LB 6-3 265 27 5 Auburn
75 Heyer, Stephon OT 6-6 330 28 6 Maryland
84 Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR 6-2 200 34 12 Oregon State
94 Moss, Jarvis DE 6-7 260 27 6 Florida
21 Sheppard, Lito DB 5-10 195 30 11 Florida
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That’ll save us 50 bucks toward the salary cap.
March 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Man!!!! So now we gotta another spot to fill. Not only do we need linebackers and defensive backs, apparently we need a defensive ned!
And I was just starting to feel good about things, now this.
Way to bum me out Jerry!
March 24th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Thanks raidertalk, I think I get it now!!
March 24th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Oh yeah I forgot,
Code Black!!!!!! Yeah the kind with the sirens an flashing lights!!!!!
March 24th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
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LOL.
And to think Al Davis used to do both jobs with just two letters of the alphabet: An F and a U.
March 24th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
We DO need a Defensive NED! The Defensive NED is the newest most critical position on the D! I hear there’s a NED Flanders, or a Crazy NED out there that would come here for cheap!
March 24th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Have you guys heard Brittney Griner speak? That dude must have huge balls on his snatch..
March 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Not much left in the tank but Lawson would be our best run stopper, sad to say. The Raiders can get one more solid year out of him, maybe two. Gonna be a long season regardless. But I’d rather see motivated players playing to win rather than the underachievers we’ve been forced to watch playing for a paycheck. Too bad we’re still saddled with Seymour.
March 24th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
joker94583 Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Not much left in the tank but Lawson would be our best run stopper, sad to say.
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Huh? Lawson has only been in the league 6 years. He’s 28.
March 24th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Lawson is under 30 and had a good year last year, I think he still has a lot left in the tank.
March 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
I hope the defensive ned is equipped with nads. . .
March 24th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
We’re also going to need another Tight Ned. Another Split Ned with hands would be good, too. There’s no ned to the needs of the team!
March 24th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Actually, there is a light at the ned of the tunnel. It came from the den.
March 24th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
hey hey ya’ll
how much canola is Lawson gonna get anyways? We still got some wiggly room with the cap n sh*t?
March 24th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
good win SPURS!
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION…..SPURS BABY!!!
silver and black through an through!
March 24th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Code Ned
March 24th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Raiders for life Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I think this is the Raiders remaining URFA list. Don’t quote me on this
Reg could make some cap if any of these players are waived or cut.
56 Blackstock, Darryl LB 6-3 245 28 6 Virginia
7 Boller, Kyle QB 6-3 220 30 9 California
27 Giordano, Matt DB 5-11 210 29 8 California
52 Groves, Quentin LB 6-3 265 27 5 Auburn
75 Heyer, Stephon OT 6-6 330 28 6 Maryland
84 Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR 6-2 200 34 12 Oregon State
94 Moss, Jarvis DE 6-7 260 27 6 Florida
21 Sheppard, Lito DB 5-10 195 30 11 Florida
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Lets see
Gio, Sheppard, Boller: bye ByE!
March 24th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Code Ned code Ned
March 24th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Code black
March 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Code blacking
March 24th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Code b3ast
March 24th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Lawson would be a good addition to the Nation……for at least a 2year deal
March 24th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
60.mcfadden20. Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Code Ned code Ned
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A defensive “Ned”?
I guess “Ned” Beatty was behaving defensively in Deliverence.
March 24th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Maybe we could get some more cap room if we weren’t paying our punter 6 mill.
March 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Oh Jerry you need to post more often after a few, wink wink, We’ve been having quite the time with your defensive ned thing!!!! Ha Ha Ha !!!!!! Keep it up Jerry! No ned for spell check at all!!!
Thanks Jer, keepin us in stitches tonite!!!!
March 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
All who are bashing Many Lawson don’t know $h1T! I live in Carolina and home boy has a certified motor! When he was with the Wolfpack he would single handedly take on multiple blockers almost every single play as he was the Wolfpack star and make the play on a run. He and Curry on the ends would force EVERYTHING to the inside for McSlow to just sit and clean up.
March 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Expect the Ain’ts to release Jon Vilma any second now. HE, would be the one to sign for cheap. He is EXACTLY what we need a pro bowl MLB with instincts that can flat out play the game. He would be perfect here. After he serves a major suspension for the bounty-gate incident that is.
March 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
I’m all for asking Lechler to restructure but on the other hand he’s more than worth all that he’s paid. We’ re talking about a pro bowler and a future hall of famer imo But then again I don’t think Ray Guy is in even though he should be for dang sure!!!! I know Shane is expensive I just think the way he helps with the field position game and his consistency makes him worth every cent he’s paid. In short he EARNS his scratch.
Plus he may just end up being our #2 qb if Reggie’s cap speak is true. Ha Ha Ha
March 24th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
750.RaiderLen Says:
March 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Big John Henderson announces retirement.
^^^^^^^
What I tell ya?
Now Big John can eat all the wings and drink all the beer he wants on Thursday nights at Buffalo Wild Wings in Dublin! lol
I have seen him there multiple times….chowing down on them wings! hahaha
March 24th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I’m thinking Raiders will target a NT, OLB/DE’s and a RB in the draft. Probably a blocking, pass catching FB also.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Then again if Lechler refused to restructure then we should ask him to double as our defensive ned. I think he would be game, who knows, he may just become the greatest ned to ever play the game!!.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Sorry bout that last one, I couldn’t resist plus I really do like Lechler and any more talk of cutting him cause he’s a $6mil hit should stop now!!!
March 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
This week we find out how many compensatory draft picks we get in this year’s draft.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Hey about the draft and those compensatory picks:
Anyone know if there’s any good neds out there?
I hear we need one or two.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I don’t know, but if we get a defensive Ned we better get an offensive Ned as well to balance our team out.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
saw recently some talking head somewhere saying that RGIII!!! or some other football player was the “greatest athlete in the history of the world!”
Most likely it was on the Worldwide Leader of Hyperbole where I saw it.
Huh?
Jim Thorpe?
Jim Brown?
Some unnamed soldier in the Pelopeniasion War?
An Ethiopian farmer?
Warren Sapp isn’t alone in making the most ignorant declarations.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
no matter what any facker says, a great team/franchise only wins a handful of super bowls in a half century. try out the stats and get back to me on that.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Yeah you right EM we need a ned for both sides of the ball! Heck might as well get a ned for special teams as well!
March 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Raiders just traded Darren Mcfadden.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Yo freckles nobody is shocked by yer stuff. It’s not even humorous. Find a new deal, gettin old!
March 24th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Freckles=ChargedUp
March 24th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Lechler is our backup QB until Pryor is ready. We arent going to cut Lechler.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Raiders for life Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I think this is the Raiders remaining URFA list. Don’t quote me on this
Reg could make some cap if any of these players are waived or cut.
56 Blackstock, Darryl LB
7 Boller, Kyle QB
27 Giordano, Matt DB
52 Groves, Quentin LB
75 Heyer, Stephon OT
84 Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR
94 Moss, Jarvis DE
21 Sheppard, Lito DB
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Here’s what I’d do:
• Blackstock, Darryl LB – CUT
• Boller, Kyle QB – CUT
• Giordano, Matt DB – RESIGN
• Groves, Quentin LB – RESIGN
• Heyer, Stephon OT – RE-SIGN
• Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR – CUT
• Moss, Jarvis DE – RE-SIGN
• Sheppard, Lito DB – CUT
March 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Oh now I get it. Thanks plunk! But dude should at least try to be funny or entertaining but instead we get bfd!
March 24th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Right on ugly! No way we cut Lechler!
March 24th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Reggies Freckled Face Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
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Can we cut this clown? Good god man put down the pipe and get back on the Dungver blog where you came from.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
arkraider Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
I’m all for asking Lechler to restructure but on the other hand he’s more than worth all that he’s paid. We’ re talking about a pro bowler and a future hall of famer imo But then again I don’t think Ray Guy is in even though he should be for dang sure!!!! I know Shane is expensive I just think the way he helps with the field position game and his consistency makes him worth every cent he’s paid. In short he EARNS his scratch.
Plus he may just end up being our #2 qb if Reggie’s cap speak is true. Ha Ha Ha
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You can restructure without losing any money. Most if not all pros will be happy to do this. It usually means more guaranteed $’s up front in the form of a signing bonus. Wimbley’s situation was different. They wanted him to restructure AND take a pay cut. The pay cut was why he balked.
March 24th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
BTW Plunk how do you guys link the losers to their appropriate source? I read garbage from people like freckles and just think oh this is just another loser but you guys somehow seem to know who’s who!
How you guys figure out these losers? What’s your secret?
March 24th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Similar comments and syntax in the writing.
March 24th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
arkraider Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
BTW Plunk how do you guys link the losers to their appropriate source? I read garbage from people like freckles and just think oh this is just another loser but you guys somehow seem to know who’s who!
How you guys figure out these losers? What’s your secret?
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This guy has been posting outragous bullshvt for the last 2 days, that’s how. He is so stupid people just can’t ignore him. That is why he is a TROLL. He throws out his studid comments like a fisherman throws his line out of the boat (trolling!). Get it?
March 24th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
*stupid sorry!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Cool then! According to JB Lechler would be happy to restructure in order to free up some cash! Get it done Reg!
I guess the only problem with that type of restructure is that it kicks the can down the road causing potential cap problems in future years, right?
March 24th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
It seems like there are two ways to play the cap game. Look at Dungver and all they have been able to accomplish the last couple weeks.
March 24th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
About the WImbley cap situation. He was the Ned for 2 years. Too good of a Ned in his mind to take a paycut. Now he is not our Ned anymore. He is somebody else’s Ned now. We’ll just have to find us another Ned. Yes, another Ned will take care of it.
March 24th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Cool Thanks plunk! But that means you gotta read and think and stuff and I was thinking you guys that could link the trolls were clairavoyent!!!! Ha ha ha (yeah spelling’s wrong one of the English teaches in here will correct it cause my smarty phone sure couldn’t
March 24th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Thanks jesusraiderjim. I was always thinking like troll under a bridge but the fisherman analogy is much more apt. Makes a lot more sense!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Somebody has to put a ned to all this ned business. . .being this is 2012 is the ned in sight?
March 24th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The world is coming to an ned!!!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
This the Ned, my only friend, the Ned. The Ned of laughter…
March 24th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
This *is the Ned…
March 24th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Its the Ned of the world as we know it..
March 24th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
troll under a bridge
Same thing.
A Troll is a Troll is a Troll!
It seems like there is no ned to them!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
The Ned came to the Al Davis era.
March 24th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Well, fellas.. time to put a Ned to this.. gotta get up early for work..
March 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Wish our D would have played better at the NED of a couple games we might have made the playoffs.
March 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
CODE BLACK 2012
March 24th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Plunk
Sorry this has to NED!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
In that Houston game last year, that was one crazy Ned!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Hey didn’t that crazy Oakland preacher predict the ned of the world and the ned didn’t come! Sorry folks from outside of the bay area, you probably never heard of this crazy evangelist but us locals or most of us did.
Bottom line is the ned didn’t happen!
Thankfully we have another year to look forward to Raider ball!!!
Go Raiders! Code Black! With the sirens an flashing lights! Oh yeah don’t you know it!!!!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Oh fellas don’t leave. I’m really enjoying our conversation, I don’t want it to ned!!!
March 24th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
of the UFAs listed above…
we can’t cut them, they are unrestricted free agents.
I get what you mean though; and I do agree on those you are considering to resign:
Giordano & Groves yes resign
Moss & Heyer are possibilities and they have talent, but I don’t see them working with our return to zbs and hybrid D.
March 24th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
# JB Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Here’s what I’d do:
• Blackstock, Darryl LB – CUT
• Boller, Kyle QB – CUT
• Giordano, Matt DB – RESIGN
• Groves, Quentin LB – RESIGN
• Heyer, Stephon OT – RE-SIGN
• Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR – CUT
• Moss, Jarvis DE – RE-SIGN
• Sheppard, Lito DB – CUT
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Agreed.
The players I would like to see kept are Giordano (good special teams player and decent backup safety) Groves (same as Gio, Groves is a good special teams player and good backup OLB) Heyer (provides good depth on OLine and can start anywhere on the line except LT and Center) Moss (can be plugged in right away as the nickel rush end and is good at it. Can also play special teams and be a spot starter at RDE)
March 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
I also think we should sign Gio. And I wouldn’t mind Groves either, though I wouldn’t be mad if we found somebody else too. I do think signing Moss wouldn’t be a bad idea, and Heyer sign to the practice squad for sure. The others can see a Ned to their Raider career for all I care.
March 24th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Raider retribution, aren’t you talking about restricted free agents? Now I’m really confused.
I thought I had it all figured out. So what are restricted and unrestricted free agents again?
Jeez I kinda yearn for the good old days of football! Dang this stuff is confusing
March 24th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Rainy day in the Bay! No news? Hasn’t Lawson been on the radar for awhile now?
March 24th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
UFA – Unrestricted Free Agent – can sign with anybody they want. No cost to the receiving team other than the contract.
RFA – Under contract to current team but could be claimed for a price. The price is established before hand when current team places a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round draft choice on the player in question. The choice also represents a fixed $ amount that the current team is committing to pay the player if they are not taken. RFA are usually in their last year of their contract which allows for them to be considered a RFA status the last year of the contract. If another team claims the RFA player, they have to give the current team the stipulated draft choice. They then have to renegotiate the new contract with the player.
At least, that’s how I think it works.
March 24th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Code Ned 2
March 24th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Code néd forever
March 25th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Joker94583 Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Not much left in the tank but Lawson would be our best run stopper, sad to say. The Raiders can get one more solid year out of him, maybe two. Gonna be a long season regardless. But I’d rather see motivated players playing to win rather than the underachievers we’ve been forced to watch playing for a paycheck. Too bad we’re still saddled with Seymour.
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get ready for camp UDFA
March 25th, 2012 at 1:24 am
This is the ned for Ted, Fred & jed. . .off to bed. . .nuff said. . .
March 25th, 2012 at 1:25 am
If Lawson is signed that would be two LOB’s bereft of passrush skill (same was said of Curry). . .the ned?
March 25th, 2012 at 2:54 am
Deb time
March 25th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Lawson on Raiders’ radar? Former 49ers linebacker Manny Lawson, who played last season with the Cincinnati Bengals, could be a possibility to take over the outside linebacker spot vacated by Kamerion Wimbley. [...]
March 25th, 2012 at 3:58 am
Giordano & Groves yes resign
Moss & Heyer are possibilities and they have talent
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I’m with Retro on this. Give me all 4 players @ vet minimum and then let’s see who we can get in the draft to fill out the roster
March 25th, 2012 at 4:01 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/24/broncos-sign-backup-quarterback-caleb-hanie/
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LOL, look at the picture of the Donkeys new #2 QB!
love it
March 25th, 2012 at 4:06 am
Saints sign Curtis Lofton … nice get!
March 25th, 2012 at 4:20 am
Hargrove visits Green Bay
Roth visits Cincy
Kelly Gregg considering retirement
The Packers remain interested in LB Manny Lawson and DE Dave Tollefson.
DT Pat Sims re-signs with Cincy
March 25th, 2012 at 4:25 am
Antonio Cromartie or Tim Tebow:
Tebow’s proven over the past couple years why he’s in the NFL. He’s been a winner all his life. He’s pulled his teams out of predicaments. He’s a guy that brings a different atmosphere to the locker room and the huddle. We were missing that last year — a guy that can take control and do the things that we need to.
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wow, so basically Mark Sanchez isn’t a leader or a winner … he’s just their #1 QB. LOL
March 25th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Anyone ever seen the movie NED kelly?
March 25th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Anyone ever seen the movie NED kelly?
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I saw part of it but I missed the NED.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:53 am
http://www.raidernationstation.com/
Have a good day Nation!~
March 25th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Night of the living NED…The Walking NED…
March 25th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Tebow is a gimmick. 2 or 3 trick plays per game. probably a decoy most of the time. You have already seen the best he will ever have to offer. Just ask John Elway.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:59 am
If Lawson is signed that would be two LOB’s bereft of passrush skill (same was said of Curry). . .the ned?
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We would have better balance on D. Instead of 3 guys getting all the pressure and nobody stopping the run, we can bring pressure from different directions and clog more running lanes. I dont see that much difference between Wimbley and Lawson blitzing from the LB position. Wimbley got most of his pressure when he played up on the line in the nickel packages.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:06 am
*********WOW!!!!!!***********
Raiders have just traded ________ to the _______ in exchange for _______.
HOLY MOLY!!!!!!!!!
March 25th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Go Buckeyes!!!!
March 25th, 2012 at 8:10 am
All I know is we better fix the defensive Ned problem before the Draft!
March 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Today could be the day Tiger puts a NED to his losing ways. Will not know until the NED of the match.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
The Raiders traded Blooger Red Freckle Face for a bag of peanuts!
March 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
That’s Reggies Red Freckle Face! Please let us observe a moment of silence!
March 25th, 2012 at 8:19 am
they over spent on that loser.
March 25th, 2012 at 9:18 am
The Ned came to RRFF’s blogging days at IBA.
March 25th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Raiderlization Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
The Raiders traded Blooger Red Freckle Face for a bag of peanuts!
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Damn we got a steal for that POS
March 25th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Code blackx
March 25th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Wouldn’t want to go on a hike with Antonio Cromartie as the guide.
Seems he’s a backtracker. . .
March 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I say Lawson’s ’bout zactly what we need. An OLB who can cover and play the run.
In a 4-3 isn’t that his primary job? Your DE is supposed to maim the qb in a 4-3….
Sign Tollefson too…
March 25th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Except Lawson, albeit a fast straight line runner, like Curry, is not known as a blitzer. Plus he doesn’t play ned, unlike Wimbley. Wimbley has about 15 lbs. on Lwason. Big difference, # 136. . .Lawson mych better @ OLB. . .Wimbley lost in coverage. . .Lawson seals the point well. . .just the opposite of Wimbley; Lawson a good OLB but not good with his hand on the ground; Wimbley is good with his hand on the ground but not so much as an OLB. . .
March 25th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Lawson would give the Raiders an option at 3-4 linebacker on the weak side. Not much of a pass-rusher, and in the 4-3 he’d be an SLB exclusively (although he has coverage skills, so maybe WLB wouldn’t be completely out of the question?). The Raiders need a starting caliber player, so it’s just a question of whether they think they can get that through the draft, and what they want to do on defense. Lawson would give them some versatility on defense in the way Wimbley did, although Wimbley was better at bringing pressure. Don’t know how much the Raiders think Lawson is worth.
March 25th, 2012 at 11:33 am
We need a OLb, and from what I hear, Lawson can both play the run and the pass. Two things we struggled with last year from the LB positions. I say sign him. Let’s put a Ned to this 15yd + gains on 3rd downs!
March 25th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I hope we get at least 2 comp picks so Regg can trade one down and we can get one more guy. Think of it. 2 third round picks then trade one for a 4th and a 6th.
Use the third on a solid NT and the 4th on a LB or vic versa .
March 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
So I’ve been consistently bashing on Pryor’s lack of IQ and how that means he’ll never amount to an NFL QB. I maintain that he was picked up purely on athletic ability by Al to convert to a different position. Finally, this article is the one that I think connects the dots on Al’s ultimate genius.
In the ever changing NFL, teams are constantly coming up with different twists and tweaks on systems on both side of the ball. It’s like a game of chess between the offensive and defensive systems to find chinks in each other’s armor.
Sometimes, these new systems tend to invent a new way to look at a current position and the types of athletes that play them. The advent of the WCO brought on the smaller, faster, pass catching FB when before they were more stout pile drivers that just blocked. TEs are getting slimmer, faster and more focused on receiving to the point where some are starters with barely marginal run blocking ability. Defenses grew these mammoth, slow moving, blocker absorbing gravity wells to play as 3-4 NTs. And the specialization continues to the point where what the roles become don’t necessarily fit into the common set of known football postions.
Now when you look at Pryor and his rare combo of size and speed, and combine that with where defenses are going, it becomes more clear what Al envisioned at least a year in front of the rest of the league. Al saw this need on the defensive side of the ball for a lightning fast, long armed player that can avoid the larger OL and use his speed to wreak havoc on the offense in completely unexpected way. Pryor is the prototype physical specimen for this new position and can be a game changer for the Raiders and ultimately the whole NFL.
I present you with Terelle Pryor – the NFL’s first true defensive ned!
March 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I’m all for signing Lawson but I read that he wants to see what Green Bay will give him. And we all know they got more cabbage to spend so we’ll soon find out if he wants to be back in the bay albeit on the Raiders or if he just wants lotsa money and doesn’t mind sub-zero winters.
March 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Reggie’s doing fine….we already had some high profile players on our team .. Now he’s adding the pieces we need…The Afc West will be wide open again this year….no clear cut favorite….call it rebuilding , reloading or Retooling … But we’re gonna be alright…..
March 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
# JB Says:
March 24th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Here’s what I’d do:
• Blackstock, Darryl LB – CUT
• Boller, Kyle QB – CUT
• Giordano, Matt DB – RESIGN
• Groves, Quentin LB – RESIGN
• Heyer, Stephon OT – RE-SIGN
• Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR – CUT
• Moss, Jarvis DE – RE-SIGN
• Sheppard, Lito DB – CUT
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Agreed.
The players I would like to see kept are Giordano (good special teams player and decent backup safety) Groves (same as Gio, Groves is a good special teams player and good backup OLB) Heyer (provides good depth on OLine and can start anywhere on the line except LT and Center) Moss (can be plugged in right away as the nickel rush end and is good at it. Can also play special teams and be a spot starter at RDE)
March 25th, 2012 at 11:56 am
But Green Bay prefers developing from within. And their main weakness was lack of a pass rush, which Lawson won’t necessarily help them with. Might just be a situation where they’re kicking his tires and seeing if he could be a good value pickup.
Wouldn’t surprise me to see him take less money to go to a contender, though.
March 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Keep Housh too. But only after cutting him and resigning him as Asst WR Coach.
March 25th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I hope Reggie resigns Jarvis Moss too….I believe he’s a hungry dedicated player…
March 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
152, comp picks can’t be traded. . .
March 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Zymurge:
“So I’ve been consistently bashing on Pryor’s lack of IQ and how that means he’ll never amount to an NFL QB.”
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I am not sure about Pryor’s lack of IQ. He was caught for NCAAF rules violations and caused a scandel.
Athletic comparisons of Pryor are to Cam Newton, and it seems logical that AD drafted Pryor in the image of Cam Newton: a big, running QB, with throwing ability, which seems to be a trend in the NFL.
Cam Newton was convicted of stealing a laptop computer while attending University of Florida, which, considering Cam’s bright future, was not only an asinine act, but an act that demonstrated very low IQ.
Now Terrel Pryor only manipulated the system to gain monetary benefits, against NCAAF rules, which, in my view shows questionable ethics and not low IQ. The real difference between Pryor and many high ranking collegiate athletes is that Pryor got caught while the others scooted under the radar.
All in all, we can talk it to death, but the only true measure in which to judge TP is to test him on the field. And somehow, I doubt that means changing positions.
March 25th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
eagles are looking to trade asante samual before the draft.
March 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Oh come on hardline, I think Pryor would make a great ned!!
Switch em already Reg!!!!
March 25th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Good thing about Pryor is he’s only 22. He’s got time on his side. Hopefully the new staff can coach him up and actually help him develop. Unlike last years QB coach.
March 25th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Kim Newton convicted? Not quite. Pre-trial diversion, no official charges afterward.
But, he’s still like a shady undertaker, with that sly smirk all the time. Great talent…bigger ego.
March 25th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Everyone on this planet past present and future has skeleton’s, and issues….Some are great at hiding them however, no one on this globe is pristine…
March 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
NCAAF exploit these youth and make billios of dollars.
On top of the education they should be paying they players “above the table” not under it.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
HayesDaze37, 165
My mistake: diversion, probation, then charges dismissed.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Actually I like Pryor and think he may be our gem in the rough. I was puzzled why Zymurge made the following comment:
Zymurge,
“So I’ve been consistently bashing on Pryor’s lack of IQ and how that means he’ll never amount to an NFL QB.”
Most posters here are down on TP, especially at the thought of him possessing talent enough to play QB in the NFL.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Just cause Lawson didn’t get a ton of sacks doesnt mean he was a horrible pass rusher. He had years where he got a good amount of pressures on limited pass rushers in SF.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I read some material on Lawson and it seems his strength is sealing the edge and stopping the run. Maybe what I read was wrong.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Kinda sucks what happened with Bush, we gave him an extra year to heal up from his broke leg after we drafted him and he rewards the team with bolting first year he could. Money talks, can’t expect to take $ out of his bank account but still that year should count for something…
March 25th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
The cost of education, room and board and daily catering (known as the “trainers table”) would probably cost about 100K a year.
These collegiate players are getting paid a ton already.
Lots of college football programs lose money for the year. They don’t have the money to pay 75 .The cost of education, room and board and daily catering (known as the “trainers table”) would probably cost about 100K a year.
These collegiate players are getting paid a ton already.
Lots of college football programs lose money for the year. They don’t have the money to pay 75 players much more than maybe 2K a year, which is nothing.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Wow….not sure what happened there.
The cost of education, room and board and daily catering (known as the “trainers table”) would probably cost about 100K a year.
These collegiate players are getting paid a ton already.
Lots of college football programs lose money for the year. They don’t have the money to pay 75 players much more than maybe 2K a year, which is nothing.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
My bosses nephew plays for UTEP, a middling program that hasn’t made the tourney in years.
He told us he got about 25 pairs of shoes this year, and eats 75% of his meals at the “trainers table” (redshirts and walk-ons don’t get access) which is catered BBQ, Olive Garden and Outback most of the time.
The shoes and food probably run over 10K for the year.
I am sure at Kentucky hoops and ‘Bama football, it is closer to 50 pair of shoes and 100% of your meals with Olive Garden and Outback at the bottom end of the meals.
March 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
What the heck? Satele got a 3 year 10 million dollar contract with the Colts.
PAY DAYYYYY
Thats some good scratch! He was good player, GOOD not that good though. Played with heart (playing hurt alot) and I respected him.
Still I’m glad we didn’t pay that contract
March 25th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Matt Light expected to retire.
That’s the life of O-lineman. I heard that dude on ESPN Lomas Brown say that most O-lineman play their best football the year or two before they retire.
March 25th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Comparing Pryor athletically to Newton as a projection of NFL success is like comparing Manning intellectually to Stephen Hawking to project Hawking’s chance of playing the NFL. You need a combination of brains and brawn to play the position. You can compensate for a weakness in one with an excess in the other. Manning is the example of a super quick football mind that puts him in a position to overcome his complete lack of footspeed. Vince Young is a semi-example of raw athleticism that let him run out of situations where he couldn’t read the defense to find the correct open receiver option and/or audible to a different pattern, protection scheme or even a run.
Pryor looks a lot like VY to me. He locks onto a single WR for the entire play, and if that doesn’t develop in 2-3 seconds he takes off running. NFL defenses WILL key on this and bait the throws, by letting a WR appear open underneath and then snatch the pass with a safety over the top.
My reasoning for saying Pryor doesn’t have it mentally has nothing to do with getting caught for what he did in college. A lot smart kids are tempted at that same age and make bad decisions. It’s based on his Wonderlic score and the 3rd party stuff that I heard about Gruden’s assessment of his mentality — or lack thereof.
Go look at college footage of Pryor and Newton on their highlight throws. You’ll see Newton clearly has the intellectual superiority to go with the same athletic profile. He reads the plays and doesn’t lock onto one target the way Pryor does.
March 25th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I read somewhere Asante is 9.4m hit to the cap. Prolly why nobody wants to snag him even for the likes of a 2 or 3rd rounder
March 25th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Code Kala
March 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
No to Asante
March 25th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
No to Asante
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March 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@Zymurge – agree completely with your analysis of Pryor. Cam Newton is a whole different QB
March 25th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Lets just NED all this Asanti talk, aint gonna happen
March 25th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Tiger f’n Woods!
March 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Note to commenters here: You’re not talent scouts. You’re fans.
March 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Lets just NED all this Asanti talk, aint gonna happen
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nobody said it was gunna happen breh
March 25th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Tiger f’n Woods!
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Tell us about it Sully!!!
Good, Bad, Indifferent?
Looks like the NED of his losing ways,eh?
March 25th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
nobody said it was gunna happen breh
just yappin bruh. no hard feelins. just sayin he cost too much for our wallet!!
That’s the NED of that.
March 25th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Note to commenters here: You’re not talent scouts. You’re fans.
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Thanks for clearin that up!
March 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I think Terrell Pryor is 10 times more likely to end up playing another position than Tebow is.
March 25th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Note to commenters here: You’re not talent scouts. You’re fans.
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And you are one of the few commenters on here who is neither.
March 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
just yappin bruh. no hard feelins. just sayin he cost too much for our wallet!!
That’s the NED of that.
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All good Breh
Just yappin myself Breh
Reppin the hometown Kentucky Breh
The NED Breh
March 25th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
ZM — Nothing you say about TPryor is un-coachable. Pryor is a superior athlete who fans know nothing about at this level. It’ll take this pre-season to see if the project’s even worth continuing.
Dunno if he’s ever gonna be a high-quality starting QB, but at this point I’d put my money on Pryor making it at the position. That’s because he’s got all the physical tools, and appears to want to be a good QB (a trait JaMarcus never showed). Let’s see what a year of intensive NFL-level training has done for him.
This year, I don’t want to rely on TPryor as my #2 QB…just like I don’t want to rely on TaiJones as #2 RB…unless they beat-out “more qualified” veterans at their respective positions (and then, good for us).
Although Taiwan’s chances of success are statistically better @ RB, it’s not nearly time to say Pryor can’t make it as a QB.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I think Terrell Pryor is 10 times more likely to end up playing another position than Tebow is.
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Ridiculous…
March 25th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
That’s because he’s got all the physical tools,
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Not so sure of that, or else he wouldn’t have slid to the middle of the 3rd round (and probably much further if Al didn’t give him a parachute).
I think his “arm talent”, as the scouts these days call it, is very suspect. Throws wobblers, not spirals, slow release, iffy accuracy.
Move him to TE or Safety.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Can someone explain what this NED nonsense is all about?
March 25th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Everyone has an opinion on TPRYOR as great and that great makes for some good conversation however, lets see what the coaching staff and GM think before we determine him a “bust” or move him to TE…
We can go in the wayback machine, and look at what some of you same Semi’s were saying about Cam Newton.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Ridiculous…
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I just look at the facts.
One was a 1st rounder, the other a 3rd drafted; as QB’s.
Pryor is faster and more athletic than Tebow, making a position change more likely for him.
Tebow his rookie year played, started 3 games and almost had 10 TD’s. Pryor, did nothing his rookie year.
Tebow his 2nd year won the division and threw for 300 yards in a playoff win. Pryor will be lucky to be active on gamedays this season.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
NED = End
March 25th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I like the thinking of the new regime. Have a solid veteran at every starting position, let the newbies beat them out.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Ridiculous…
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I just look at the facts.
One was a 1st rounder, the other a 3rd drafted; as QB’s.
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So you complete miss the Fact that Pryor was projectd a 1st rounder had he gone through the draft or was that an oversight?
March 25th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Cam was impressive and I was wrong on that one.
Never said he should move positions though, and never doubted he shouldn’t be a top pick.
Who knows where Pryor would have fell if Al didn’t bail him out in the middle of the 3rd round in the sup draft.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Tebow his rookie year played, started 3 games and almost had 10 TD’s. Pryor, did nothing his rookie year.
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Who was Pryor playing behind?
Did a fan outcry exist to play Pryor?
Did Pryor miss training camp?
Dude if you are going to make a comparison make it apples to apples…
March 25th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
So you complete miss the Fact that Pryor was projectd a 1st rounder had he gone through the draft or was that an oversight?
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Says who? Link?
Sup draft is just the same, in fact it costs a team less in theory, because the pick isn’t given up until the next season.
He had a pro day, and half the league didn’t even show up. They saw the film.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Rock Chalk fools!
March 25th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Cam was impressive and I was wrong on that one.
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Exactly, and yet you are exspousing some ridiculous stuff on a Raider no less…
March 25th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Who was Pryor playing behind?
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A now journeyman backup (Soup), a guy soon to be out of the league (Boller) and a guy who just came off the couch (Palmer).
March 25th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Cam was impressive and I was wrong on that one.
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Thanks for admitting that you Sh1t on Cam and he sh1t back on you….
TPRYOR is a Raider and he will do the same…
March 25th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Exactly, and yet you are exspousing some ridiculous stuff on a Raider no less…
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Hey, you fall off the horse, and you have to hop right back on, lol.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
I think Pryor will be just fine, I don’t understand all the hate on him… maybe because we got him in the supplemental draft instead of the real one? He would have been a first or early second round pick IMO.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
A now journeyman backup (Soup), a guy soon to be out of the league (Boller) and a guy who just came off the couch (Palmer).
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Question, how many rookie QB’s have missed training camp, and the first 6 games of the season to come in and start????
Your savior tebow could not have even done that…
Like I said Ridiculous…
March 25th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Pryor could be traded during the draft, if there is another team that is high on him.
The Raiders have other priorities and a QB project has to be low on their list.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
REmember, Terrel Pryor ACTUALLY played WR in college at times, as a way to showcase his talents in lieu of potential position change in the pro’s.
This isn’t made up, it was a choreographed move by team Pryor.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
I think Pryor will be just fine, I don’t understand all the hate on him… maybe because we got him in the supplemental draft instead of the real one? He would have been a first or early second round pick IMO.
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Agree, let him develop & show us what hes got, whenever the coaches determine when that is
I don’t think he was drafted to come in and take over the Raiders..i mean the guy was a 3rd round pick
If he was a first rounder id be barking all over this blog to throw him to the wolves to see what hes got, but hes not thats the NED of it
March 25th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
REmember, Terrel Pryor ACTUALLY played WR in college at times, as a way to showcase his talents in lieu of potential position change in the pro’s.
This isn’t made up, it was a choreographed move by team Pryor.
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Can Pryor FAIL @ qb before we change him positions please?
We dont have too much depth there as it is
March 25th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
He would have been a first or early second round pick IMO.
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He had a pro day, and half the league didn’t even bother to show. No commitment to at least show up and watch.
1st or 2nd round talents, ESPECIALLY QB’S, don’t get blown off by half the league on their pro day.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Hey, I hope I am wrong on Pryor. I will gladly be here to admit it.
I just don’t even think he will be active on gamedays this year.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Ned=end
March 25th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I just don’t even think he will be active on gamedays this year.
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As a QB that is.
We shall see. The Reggie, Allen and Knapp will tip their hand a little on Pryor, depending on how they address the QB position in FA/draft.
March 25th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
JFB is right on on aspect of Pryor. But I think throwing wobblers is an understatement. I’ve seen field goal attempts that are prettier.
He does have good arm strength though.
I think the new coaching staff will give him more attention if they feel that he can develop into an NFL QB.
Remember who the QB coach was last year?
March 25th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
IMO, more impressive than anything he did as a QB:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrZYZktLdns
March 25th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
How can u think so highly of a qb like Tebow but then say a qb with a similar skillset on ur OWN TEAM wont even be active on gameday?
March 25th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I’m not a Raider fan, JFB? Now that Al Davis is dead, I’m buying season tix again.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
I don’t and can’t let who a player plays for alter my view of them.
If I did, than I would be Priest.
Tebow was a better college QB, was drafted higher, has no between-the-ears issues, and is already running laps around Pryor.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Code kala 2
March 25th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I’m not a Raider fan, JFB? Now that Al Davis is dead, I’m buying season tix again.
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Being a “fan” doesn’t allow to pick and choose when to root for the team.
That is a bandwagon fan, which I think labeling that on you would be a disservice to other bandwagoners out there.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Running laps around Pryor?
Tebow is a backup gimmic wildcard QB thanks to the Jets hiring Sparano, who is used to dealing with garbage at QB. Were talking about the same guy who drafted Pat White to run QB for him.
In case you missed it, Denver thought so much of Tebow, they couldn’t wait to run him outta town.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Get another young QB prospect, or a strong-armed vet, but leave Pryor at QB for at least another year. You people.
Pryor didn’t suddenly become a sub-standard athlete…and he was (obviously) good enough to lead a major program’s O. So, he needs to prove himself at this level…sounds like every kid coming out of college. Where a guy like JaMarcus wasted the opportunity, TPryor more than deserves one.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Tebow misses on roughly 65% of his passes, but he’s running laps around someone?
He just got traded for a 4th rd pick. To be a BACKUP.
I guess I admire how you go down with the ship, captain.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
In case you missed it, Denver thought so much of Tebow, they couldn’t wait to run him outta town.
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Elway is no Reggie McKenzie
Print that!!!!
March 25th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
He just got traded for a 4th rd pick. To be a BACKUP.
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He will start this year, probably by about week 5.
Lupica thinks he will start more games than Sanchez this season (per today’s Sports Reporters).
March 25th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
The thought that Pryor can’t out Tebow at his own game is hilarious. Give him the same rope to be terrible for more than 3/4ths of the game, and let’s see.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The Jets are a clown enough of an organization to switch to ticket selling mode if they get off to a slow start.
It won’t last though.
Ryan will be fired, along with the GM when they miss the playoffs this year. And the new coach and GM will want nothing to do with a guy who misses on close to 65% of his throws.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Tebow was a better college QB, was drafted higher, has no between-the-ears issues, and is already running laps around Pryor.
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Actually, it could be argued Tebow has plenty of between-the-ears issues, if you don’t happen to ride the same wagon he does.
There are probably just as many — if not more — Players and Coaches who would rather not have Tebow as a teammate, as those who would. He’s THAT polarizing. Not what any team needs at such an important position. NYJ will be a zoo this year…previous years won’t even compare.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
MR buy season tix?? Pffft. Everything about MR screams BS. Everything.
Quite a legacy…for what must be the most important daily activity he has. Quite sad, actually.
(Sniffle)
March 25th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Ryan will be fired, along with the GM when they miss the playoffs this year. And the new coach and GM will want nothing to do with a guy who misses on close to 65% of his throws.
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Hopefully.
Than we can pick up Tebow on the FA market cheap!!!!
March 25th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
There are probably just as many — if not more — Players and Coaches who would rather not have Tebow as a teammate, as those who would. He’s THAT polarizing.
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I think that is more of the circus surrounding Tebow than Tebow himself.
Other than puzzy-azz Brady Quinn, never heard a teammate have anything bad to say about Tebow.
But he doesn’t quelch the circus, which he probably should.
March 25th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
J Hill Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
How can u think so highly of a qb like Tebow but then say a qb with a similar skillset on ur OWN TEAM wont even be active on gameday?
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J Hill Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Running laps around Pryor?
Tebow is a backup gimmic wildcard QB thanks to the Jets hiring Sparano, who is used to dealing with garbage at QB. Were talking about the same guy who drafted Pat White to run QB for him.
In case you missed it, Denver thought so much of Tebow, they couldn’t wait to run him outta town.
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So if a guy with the same skill set as a guy that is a backup gimic QB that was all but given away, how can we project that Pryor will amount to anything?
March 25th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Johnson also said Mark Sanchez remains the team’s starter and hinted Tebow could play roles beyond quarterback.
“Tim Tebow will be a good addition to the team,” Johnson said. “From a football standpoint, he adds flexibility, versatility, he’s a great athlete and he’s a big athlete. He can do a lot of things besides being the backup quarterback. I think all of those thing are going to make us a better and stronger team going forward. I’m excited to have him on board.”
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Great athlete?
Can do a lot of things other than play QB?
Hmmmmmm ……
March 25th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
That said, I don’t think that Tebow and Pryor are all that similar. Pryor is way better as a runner, and that I think is his downfall. All too often QBs that are excellent at running don’t develop the other QB skills — you know, reading a defense, making solid throws, looking off defenders, checking down to find the weakness in the coverage, and so on.
Tebow is a fairly smart guy. His bread and butter play looked like a run/pass option that was based on his quick read of the D before the snap. I don’t think that Pryor can make that same read at the NFL level where defenses are deceptive and disguise things.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Skip Bayless loves Tim Tebow. Nuff said.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
lets face it, if we are posting here we are all pathetic losers who are suckers for non-news stories. Reggie Mac basically told us all we were free to get a life in his interview, but we will eat whatever this blog feeds us because we are incapable of independent or original thoughts.
I actually had a moment of inspiration and broke away from this blog long enough to find information suggesting that in Denver last year Allen was disappointed in pass coverage of vet LB JD (?) Williams. So I would think that maybe he would be a little concerned about our linebackers’ ability in that area too. Lawson is also allegedly pretty good in pass defense.
Unfortunately, my moment of inspiration was short lived and now I’m back here posting.
At least this article confirmed the feeling most Raider fans seem to have that the signing of Khalif Barnes is keeping us from signing any more high priced free agents.
Jerry Mac or Cork will probably do another non-news article soon to feed our addiction, as they are dispicable enablers and patheticism pimps, but their game is so weak they can’t even sell advertising in the sidebar below the article. With the refs, Jerry Mac, Cork, Reggie Mac, the NFL, the Ghost of Al Davis, and ourselves all conspiring against us, we are all doomed.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
So if a guy with the same skill set as a guy that is a backup gimic QB that was all but given away, how can we project that Pryor will amount to anything?
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I’m not excited about a guy like Tebow being our backup at all.
The Pryor fans tell me he can throw the ball much better than Tebow though. And we haven’t signed another QB yet.
Our GM isn’t in a hurry to kick Pryor off the team though. And he hasn’t been openly talked about as a gimmic wildcat QB and possibly playing other positions.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
I don’t think that Pryor can make that same read at the NFL level where defenses are deceptive and disguise things.
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Hmmmm …
Why not?
Pretty simple read. If the edge is sealed, hand the ball off. If the end guy bites on the handoff keep the ball.
Even simpler is the shotgun spread offense.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Tebow’s running was the best part of his game.
If your saying Pryor is a better runner, then I would think he’d be the better player.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Alzado,
I know you’re new here, but the comment section is the life of this blog, not the damn news stories.
This is like a big arsse water cooler, bruh!
March 25th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
At the chalkboard:
Coach Sparano: OK kid, here’s what’s gonna happen…you’re gonna drop-back 5 yards…X will go out here, Y will go here, and Z will go here…H will go in motion on “set,” and hit the edge rusher on his way around the corner…the RB will chip-block any oncoming rusher before he slips out into the flat over here. Primary receiver is Y, checkdown goes to Z, and then to the RB. After that, you’re on you’re own. Check that MLB, and watch out for the Safety over the top. Got it?
Tebow: Ummm…how deep do I drop-back?
March 25th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
AlzadoX, good comment.
To alleviate my addiction, I play the horses.
A lot like Kenny Mayne, football and horse.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Tebow was having trouble with reads, and the passing schemes in general last year. It’s one of the reasons he runs so much.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
So Alzadox,
When u starting the raider blog support group? Sounds pretty dire and I’m sure you’re not alone!! Maybe the other folks in here could help you with the 12 steps to success to life beyond being a hopeless raider blog poster!!!
Suggestions anyone?
March 25th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
I really don’t know where people are basing their opinion that Pryor will suceed at the pro level. I haven’t seen anything from him yet behind center yet to justify him suceeding.
If it’s because he was decent at the college level, than you may be dissapointed. 2 different animals, college and NFL. And just because Newton played well, doesn’t mean Pryor will do the same things.
I hope every Raider plays well and earns some Pro Bowls and Lombardi trophies, but to say Pryor is ready for big time is just wishful thinking at this point.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Arkraider Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
So Alzadox,
When u starting the raider blog support group? Sounds pretty dire and I’m sure you’re not alone!! Maybe the other folks in here could help you with the 12 steps to success to life beyond being a hopeless raider blog poster!!!
Suggestions anyone?
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We need to come up with something to help ourselves.
We may be even more doomed as previously stated, as I forgot to mention that NFLPA, Khalif Barnes, and salary cap are also part of the conspiracy against us.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
I really don’t know where people are basing their opinion that Pryor will suceed at the pro level.
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Right now, it appears like the new group is willing to go forward with him as the #2 QB. Everyone seems to agree that this new group is pretty on top of things as far as football decisions have gone.
I have never really seen Pryor play. I look forward to seeing him in the preseason.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
OKC has 3 7 footer on their front line and the Heat can’t do anything but shoot jumpers.
Once again, media crowned champions don’t win much.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Fair enough JHill.
I’m also interested to see what the kid has got this preseason. Like i said, i want to see him play against a pro defense.
Ugh, 6 more months…patiently waiting.
March 25th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Terrell Pryor has just rented a loft in West Oaktown equipped with virtual anomalies allowing him to practice as signal caller, receiver and RB.
no mention in the report if he has intention of developing any of the requisite skills or if he has acquired the facility as a front for a tattoo parlor. (when you say tattoo I’ll bet you didn’t know you were speaking Tahitian.)
March 25th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
We have to face the fact that the Raiders are not an elite franchise.
We can at least be hopeful that McKenzie will guide us to prominence.
March 25th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Reggie Mc just came from a top of the line team.
GB just came within a curly hair of being in back-to-back super bowls.
GB had the worst defense in the recorded history of American football and no RBs of any greatness. the O-line was also subpar. And yet they were there.
Raiders have a better D than that. Better O-line than that. Better runner until McF goes down. And a QB who is about 90% of Rodgers.
Cut out the penalty yards and you are there.
March 25th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
The Green Bay defense was one of the leaders in. Takeaways
March 25th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I like your optimism lonetree! I tend to think things are looking up.as well I just not sure its.gonna.be.so easy, I’m afraid there are gonna be a fair amount of speed bumps ahead with rookies at many crucial coaching and front office positions, not to mention ownership. But I too think we are heading in the right direction and good things could come quickly but common sense tells me that even if we’re lucky it still might take a couple of years to turn this thing around. I really hope we can compete an win with our current players/coaches/mgmnt/owners because we’ve all seen glimpses of greatness with guys like Mcfadden, Moore, Ford, Reece and even CP3 that it would be a shame to not have success with them, but realistically I think we might be 2 years away and some of these guys are gonna be gone. Even Gruden’s first 2 years were 8-8.
March 25th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
AlzadoX, speak for yourself. I get all my Raider news from this blog.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
If I were coach, what I would do with Pryor is have him master like 5 or 6 plays. Nothing else. Just put him in during short yardage, and goal line situations. Boot left… boot right, either run or short pass out of it.
After the league see’s all 5 plays, devise 5 more for him to master…. repeat.
I’d use him in every game. It would at least force the DC’s to spend time game planning against it… even if it didn’t work.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I can see why the media, analysts, writers, etc. would predict nothing but negative things for us this year but it’s what they are basing it on that I have issue with.
I’ve seen two sources say one of the main reasons is a “new” defensive scheme and letting so many players go from the D. Shows what they know….nothing. I see that as a plus. The D can’t get any worse… or should I say any more detrimental to the teams success.
Now, if they wanna say the uncertainty at HC is cause for concern I would have to agree. We don’t know how Allen will do as HC. He could end up being the worst ever. But…I personally think Allen is an up and coming stud HC. I think Tarver will be an upgrade over Bres. I think DMAC will be relatively healthy and a key part of the offense, and I think Palmer will show us he has still “got it” at QB and make this season a personal vendetta at proving the naysayers wrong.
For those reasons? 10-6 AT LEAST.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Gdog I like your thinking wouldn’t work long term but could work none the less. Might as well try to use him now especially if the powers that be don’t see him as the future.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I hope your right Djohnny! We got enough talent at least on the o. I could see us doing it winning 10(games and getting into the playoffs and perhaps making a little noise but on the other hand it took Gruden 2 years why should it happen any quicker now? I hope your optimism is right!
March 25th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
it took Gruden 2 years why should it happen any quicker now?
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Because we have a better roster than when Chucky took over.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Yeah JHill suppose you’re right about that. I wanna believe but being a Raiders fan can really be hard guess I’m always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
March 25th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Gdog Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
If I were coach, what I would do with Pryor is have him master like 5 or 6 plays. Nothing else. Just put him in during short yardage, and goal line situations. Boot left… boot right, either run or short pass out of it.
After the league see’s all 5 plays, devise 5 more for him to master…. repeat.
I’d use him in every game. It would at least force the DC’s to spend time game planning against it… even if it didn’t work.
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Someone suggested that Rex Ryan use Tebow on EVERY extra point play going for 2 points instead of one. They also said they could expect an 80%+ success rate. They are probably right. We maybe should look at the same approach with Pryor. If we can count on getting an extra 5 or 6 free points on every game, then we can expect that strategy to be worth possibly 2-3 additional wins a year. This approach could just be the next evolution to the pro football game. Maybe they should have a rule change and do away with the extra point all together – it’s like 98% sure thing now and is really a boring play. Make the extra point the “extra 3 point play” by getting the ball in the end zone from the 3 yd or 5 yd. line after a TD score. It would make the game more interesting and certainly more strategic. At least for 2012, it would give Pryor something to do rather than hold on to a clip board. Just saying…
March 25th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
alzadoX Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
lets face it, if we are posting here we are all pathetic losers who are suckers for non-news stories. Reggie Mac basically told us all we were free to get a life in his interview, but we will eat whatever this blog feeds us because we are incapable of independent or original thoughts.
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You must either be a newbie or a troll….
All Semi’s on this blog know its not ab
March 25th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
alzadoX Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
lets face it, if we are posting here we are all pathetic losers who are suckers for non-news stories. Reggie Mac basically told us all we were free to get a life in his interview, but we will eat whatever this blog feeds us because we are incapable of independent or original thoughts.
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You must either be a newbie or a troll….
All Semi’s on this blog know its not about the post.
Its more about the conversations that go on…
Moreover, it has nada to do with social economic status, job description, race, location where posting from….
March 25th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I would be alright with Pryor holding a clipboard if the coaches thought he was the future qb, but if not then we should use him any way we can!
March 25th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
If I were the coach I would treat TPRYOR as all QB’s on the team. Let him compete to earn his position on this team.
Coach Saunders Knows TPRYOR… His input is going to be valuble in TPRYOR’s evaluation as a QB. He has the best insight having worked with him last year.
Nothing should be a given, however I truly beleive he will emerge as the number 2 QB, and eventually be the starter….
March 25th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Gdog Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
“If I were coach, what I would do with Pryor is have him master like 5 or 6 plays. Nothing else. Just put him in during short yardage, and goal line situations. Boot left… boot right, either run or short pass out of it.
“After the league see’s all 5 plays, devise 5 more for him to master…. repeat.
“I’d use him in every game. It would at least force the DC’s to spend time game planning against it… even if it didn’t work.”
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Excellent post. Doing that makes so much sense given the athleticism of such a player that one wonders why an excellent gimmick offensive coach (and I don’t say that disparagingly, but with admiration) such as Hue, didn’t do it.
All I can think might be the reason it wasn’t done last year is that 1) it takes time to plan; 2)it requires reps in practice that might have been time needed for other things and 3) maybe the coach feared that it might have engendered jealousy among others who were “athletic” and felt it wasn’t worth the cost. I know #3 sounds odd, but a coach does have to figure personalities into the mixture. Then again, maybe Hue was so overwhelmed with stuff that after Pryor got that one play and flubbed it, he wasn’t up to trying anything else last season. If Hue were still here, you have to believe he would have plays for him.
Hopefully, they will use him. He can be a real weapon.
March 25th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
272.arkraider Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I would be alright with Pryor holding a clipboard if the coaches thought he was the future qb, but if not then we should use him any way we can!
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Me too.
I would hope Pryor would be willing to do anything for the team.
I think a pefect situation would’ve been that 3rd and 3 against Detroit that could’ve sealed the game (when Palmer overhtrew Schilens).
Pryor takes the snap and could’ve fallen forward for the first if noone was open.
I think he could be dangerous in those situations.
March 25th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
If he’s not the number 2 qb, then he ought to have plays designed for him. He can run, he can catch, he can act as a decoy, and for all I know, he can block and block better than Mike Bush.
March 25th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Then again, maybe Hue was so overwhelmed with stuff that after Pryor got that one play and flubbed it, he wasn’t up to trying anything else last season. If Hue were still here, you have to believe he would have plays for him.
Hopefully, they will use him. He can be a real weapon.
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You have to remember, that after Campbell went down, Hue was basically in full crisis mode for the rest of the season. Not only did he have to get CP up to speed with the offense, but he lost his other main weapon in McF… and also the defense was a complete grease fire.
I doubt Pryor was much of a priority.
I’d be surprised if Knapp isn’t smart enough to incorporate Pryor somehow into the offense next year. Some of his best years as OC was with Garcia… who was known for his scrambling. He ran for 353 yards in 2002 with Knapp calling plays.
The problem might be convincing CP he has to leave the field for a play…
March 25th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
I would be alright with Pryor holding a clipboard if the coaches thought he was the future qb, but if not then we should use him any way we can!
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Based on what Cork sez… he isn’t anywhere CLOSE to being ready to be our backup QB. I think everybody is kidding themselves to think that.
Thats why I would have him master just 5 plays… instead of the entire playbook.
Have someone else as backup QB that isn’t just now learning how to throw a football. Thats what Denver should have done with Tebow…
March 25th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Based on what Cork sez… he isn’t anywhere CLOSE to being ready to be our backup QB.
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“Cork ” needs to give a little more than just his opinion regarding TPRYOR being ready or not.
Cork and Jerry are scooped by the Semi’s on this blog 99.9% of the time so I would be less inclined to believe his spin unless he has a source that says TP is not ready.
I expect TP to beat out whoevr comes to camp, making the whole point moot…
March 25th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Was it Cork or Jerry that told us that S.D. was gonna just lay down in the last game of the season? That is the kind of insight I can do without.
I am pullin for T.P he can be utilized somehow. We shall see in the NED.
March 25th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Was it Cork or Jerry that told us that S.D. was gonna just lay down in the last game of the season? That is the kind of insight I can do without.
I am pullin for T.P he can be utilized somehow. We shall see in the NED.
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Yeah, based on the corkster opinion, we were going to get the automatic bid….
March 25th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
“Cork ” needs to give a little more than just his opinion regarding TPRYOR being ready or not.
Cork and Jerry are scooped by the Semi’s on this blog 99.9% of the time so I would be less inclined to believe his spin unless he has a source that says TP is not ready.
I expect TP to beat out whoevr comes to camp, making the whole point moot…
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What are you basing this on besides blind opinion?
I assume Cork has a little better insight into this than any of us.
Please.
A guy doesn’t suddenly learn how to be a professional passer in one year.
Try and become a professional golfer in a year with a horrible swing. Get back to me after you accomplish this…
March 25th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
I do think that Pryor can be effective with 5 or so plays per game in a wildcat like offense. As suggested above, a couple of fairly simple plays that are run/pass options based on a single receiver are within his skills.
The best part of that is that with the removal of the emergency QB rule, he can enter the game as the 3rd stringer without impacting the ability to put the starter back in.
Along the way, since he is going to get some “special” treatment as a QB, I’d like to see him also jump in on the kick cover team. He can be extra “special” that way, with his size and speed. It’s not even unprecedented. Jeff Hostetler volunteered for special teams when he was a rookie 3rd string QB for the Giants, because he just wanted to get on the field. And he had the wheels to pull it off. He played on various kick and punt units his first four years, and even had a blocked punt!
March 25th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
I don’t think there was a single person who thought SD was gonna lay down and give it to us that last game.
Anyone that predicted that has no experience with the history of the Afc West.
You think Norv Turner wouldn’t want to deny the team that fired him a shot at the playoffs? Or that Rivers would just say “aww screw it”.
Maybe if the Raider D would’ve showed the slightest ability,inclination, desire or ability to stop them…
March 25th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
I said “ability” twice. Freudian slip.
March 25th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Pryor is a raw quarterback who needs to greatly improve his accuracy if he is ever going to become a quality starting QB in the NFL. Of the 40 quarterbacks I have charted over the past four years, Pryor’s accuracy ranked 36th out of 40. He needs to stride into and follow through on his passes more consistently in order to improve his accuracy. He obviously needs to work on his mechanics, but if he can improve his accuracy, then the odd look of his release would not be as big of an issue.
Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-06-08/scouting-report-ohio-state-qb-terrelle-pryor#ixzz1qCXcOC5c
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The problem we will have here is very similar to Tebow’s problem. If you don’t have a natural arm swing, no matter how hard you work on the basics, you always resort to bad habits, especially under pressure.
Its similar to having a bad golf swing… breaking bad habits is nearly impossible. It takes YEARS AND YEARS of practice. Thats why ALL golf pros would rather teach someone that has never played before, rather than someone that has been playing for years but has bad mechanics.
This simply is not something that gets fixed in 6 months.
Cork is 100% right.
March 25th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Should the Raiders consider trading Seymour(DT/DE) for Samuel (CB) of Philadelphia?
March 25th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
#267, sorry JHill,
but our roster was much better in 2001/2002 than it is today.
Raiders I believe will be better than our last Super Bowl team in a year or two; but as of now no.
OL> Lincoln Kennedy, Robbins, & Wisniewski far better and more proven than anyone on our OLine today; Vehldeer, Wisniewski, & Brisiel are close and could surpass, that yet to be proven on the field;
QB> Gannon better than Palmer
RB> McFadden better than Gardner but not as productive
WR> Brown, Rice enough said!
TE> no names then no names now, but could make names for themselves this offseason workouts
Defense> Woodson & Co. better than Seymour & Co.
March 26th, 2012 at 1:23 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 25th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Should the Raiders consider trading Seymour(DT/DE) for Samuel (CB) of Philadelphia?
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No.
March 26th, 2012 at 1:24 am
We should trade a 8 time Pro Bowl, 3 time World Champion for, what has Samuel done? Explain….
March 26th, 2012 at 2:28 am
#242, that’s Skip “Baseless. . .” of BSPN. . .
March 26th, 2012 at 2:57 am
What site, praytell, had Pryor projected as a first round draft pick? When was this assessment made? And how much has he played in the meantime?
If you are alluding to the TSN article the “War Room” corrospondent merely says Pryor would go higher than he should based on the so-called “wow” factor; which means one of 32 teams (see Tebow, Tim, Denver Broncos, 2010 draft) will pull the trigger.
That’s a generality that didn’t come to fruition based on his NCAA suspension & subsequent NFL suspension following the Raiders supplemental selection of the aforementioned Pryor.
I wonder where RGIII was generally projected prior to the 2011 season & how many football sites had him projected to undergo a position change.
I remember debating with Sully44 about that on the night in question (September of last year, the night USC played ASU, if I’m not mistaken). He was backing Matt Barkley of USC & I said I would take RG III hands down as the best QB not getting paid (other than through overzealous alimni/boosters), including Napoleon Dynamite (Andrew Luck). . .
Seems RGIII’s throwing motion/mechanics came into question. . .he possesses a rather tyrannosarus rex release (see “aligator arm”) on short passes. . .his long range passes were more of the version reminiscent to most NFL QB’s. . .the last I saw of Pryor was along the lines of the former, even on deeper throws. Wonder where he is on that as of present.
And, yes, usually someone that is not observing a natural, fluid delivery will revert to their more natural approach when under fire. So, the debate continues. but for anyone to claim anyone annointed Pryor worthy of a first round draft pick is just disingenuous. . .and pandering to, say, themselves? Just saying. . .
So, along with Taiwan Jones the jury is out & competition should be obtained in the form of NFL vets @ each position. Besides, if Michael Bush’s shortcomings as a pass protector are taken into consideration what does Jones have to offer as a pass protector? Not so much. . .but that’s subject to change. . .
March 26th, 2012 at 3:01 am
# 280 that was Cork. I used to consider Cork newsworthy when he wrote for S&B Illustrated & TSN used to (don’t presently know) consult him for weekly updates, but this is reminiscent to Stevie Wonder consulting Hellen Keller for directions. At least Stevie has hearing capability. . .
March 26th, 2012 at 3:02 am
This graveyard thing is making me insensative. . .I’m not scoring much on the (good) Karma front. . .i better watch myself on the drive home this A.M.
March 26th, 2012 at 5:39 am
test
March 26th, 2012 at 5:41 am
While I’m here and allowed to post.
Good morning nation.Beautiful day over here,hope it is where you are.
March 26th, 2012 at 5:45 am
HEY NEILB,GOOD DAY 2 U SIR..
March 26th, 2012 at 5:46 am
check
March 26th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Wow,still here.
Good morning Dirt-lot.Sorry if I stop posting – this site is messing with me again.
March 26th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Anyone see the Hunger Games yet?
March 26th, 2012 at 6:05 am
T.Pryor will be more suited to Knapp`s offence ,if the Saunders/Knapp project splutters or is disrupted by injury he will ditch Saunders and install Pryor to run the roll-out option offence he favours
March 26th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Neil, what’s up buddy?
Dirt Lot, and the AM Crew…happy Monday!
March 26th, 2012 at 6:11 am
good morning AM crew!
March 26th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Morning all im excited for UDFA time,supposedly Reggies strength everything from the draft this year is a bonus,i wont wake up until day2 zzzzzz
March 26th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Dennis Allen is going to be the next Bill Belichick!
March 26th, 2012 at 6:45 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/the-free-agent-hot-100/
Anybody the Raiders should be interested in, if the price is right?
March 26th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Top UFA’s remaining, per PFT
28. Chargers offensive tackle Marcus McNeill.
31. Bills offensive tackle Demetrius Bell.
50. Seahawks linebacker David Hawthorne.
52. Redskins linebacker London Fletcher.
58. Patriots defensive end Andre Carter.
59. Jaguars defensive end Matt Roth.
60. Bengals linebacker Manny Lawson.
63. Saints defensive tackle Aubrayo Franklin.
64. Giants offensive tackle Kareem McKenzie.
66. Chargers defensive end Luis Castillo.
67. 49ers safety Reggie Smith.
68. Lions running back Kevin Smith.
69. 49ers wide receiver Braylon Edwards.
70. Jets safety Jim Leonhard.
71. Bengals running back Cedric Benson.
72. Seahawks running back Justin Forsett.
74. 49ers offensive guard Chilo Rachal.
75. Eagles defensive tackle Trevor Laws.
84. Rams center Jason Brown.
86. Raiders defensive end Jarvis Moss.
87. Chargers fullback Jacob Hester.
89. Redskins safety O.J. Atogwe.
99. Bears defensive tackle Amobi Okoye.
100. Colts tight end Dallas Clark.
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Anybody the Raiders should kick the tires on ???
March 26th, 2012 at 6:55 am
maybe Lawason and bring back Moss (Jarvis)…
March 26th, 2012 at 6:57 am
restructure DHB, Kelly, Seabass & Shane …
sign Marcus Trufant, Manny Lawson, Aubrayo Franklin & Brandon Jacobs!!
March 26th, 2012 at 6:59 am
where is BSJ?
I spent my whole weekend in Illinois
Lotawata Creek Southern Grill = bomb !!!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Anybody seen Bcz since his b-day?
March 26th, 2012 at 7:07 am
@Hwnrdr
Giordano, Groves, Moss & Heyer
Give me all 4 players @ vet minimum and then let’s see who we can get in the draft to fill out the roster
March 26th, 2012 at 7:08 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
March 26th, 2012 at 7:11 am
@Dakota
Santorum > Romney
get over it !!!
…but Mitt will likely beat Rick & Barry
March 26th, 2012 at 7:12 am
wheres Dirt Lot, JFB, Raider O, YA & Teach ???
March 26th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Dakota,
The Lakers plan to pick up the $16.4 million option on Bynum’s contract next season. However, Buss warned that under the terms of the new collective bargaining agreement that was put into place in December, thus ending the NBA’s 161-day lockout, the Lakers are unable to be as free-spending as they were in the past.
“With the new CBA, they put a lot of restrictions on teams that spend a lot of money. They want to make the playing field level and one way of doing it is penalize the teams that are spending a lot of money,” Buss said. “We have historically spent a lot of money. That has to change.”
More on the Lakers
For more news, notes and analysis of the Lakers, check out the Land O’ Lakers blog from the Kamenetzky Brothers. Blog
The Lakers will try to parse down their hefty payroll of approximately $85 million for this season, which is well above the $70.1 million luxury tax level. While they will owe a dollar-for-dollar penalty to the league office at the end of this season of approximately $15 million, it will be much harsher in two seasons when all the terms of the new CBA kick in. For teams $0-$5 million more than the luxury tax, there will be a $1.50 per dollar penalty; $5 million-$10 million over is $1.75; $10 million-$15 million is $2.50; and $15 million-$20 million is $3.25. If a team finds itself above the luxury tax four years out of any five-year period, it will owe a repeater tax which would apply an extra dollar to every increment (i.e. if a team was $0-$5 million over, it would have to pay $2.50 instead of $1.50 per every dollar above the line).
Apart from the stricter financial penalties, teams operating above the luxury tax will not be privy to the full use of salary cap exceptions, meaning they will only be able to offer a “mini” mid-level exception, rather than a full mid-level exception to attract free agents.
The Lakers also will be affected by the new revenue-sharing model the NBA has adopted. Buss estimated the Lakers, who used to dole out approximately $4 million-$6 million a season in revenue sharing, now will owe anywhere from $50 million-$80 million in revenue sharing each season.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7730149/los-angeles-lakers-jim-buss-wants-kobe-bryant-laker-life
March 26th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Mark Clemens, Violent Hands, Hwnrdr & Dakota dominate the blog right now … like Memphis over Lake Show last night, LOL
March 26th, 2012 at 7:16 am
314.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:11 am
@Dakota
Santorum > Romney
get over it !!!
…but Mitt will likely beat Rick & Barry
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WTF is wrong with YOU PEOPLE? Voting for Santorum when you know damn well he is unelectable…..let me see here, one guy doesn’t follow some of my beliefs in Romney, and the other guy follows none of my beliefs…..so I will vote for the guy who makes sure Ob@ma wins in November!
Jezuz cripes!
Did you guys know Mormons claim to be Christians too????? We all know that you people are not voting for him simply because he is Mormon.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Or like OKC over the Heatles, LOL!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:17 am
312.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:07 am
@Hwnrdr
Giordano, Groves, Moss & Heyer
Give me all 4 players @ vet minimum and then let’s see who we can get in the draft to fill out the roster
True dat…
Hey Rockstar…come on now with that laker comment…:)
March 26th, 2012 at 7:17 am
it’s funny to look at the box score of Laker games and see Jhill on there
http://www.nba.com/games/20120325/MEMLAL/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021100726#nbaGIboxscore
semi pro blogger J Wiggle could have outballed Kobe vs Grizz
March 26th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Did you guys know Mormons claim to be Christians too????? We all know that you people are not voting for him simply because he is Mormon.
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LOL!
Moms was just talking about watch out for the Mormom vote.
“They’re everywhere! You never know who they are”, she said.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:19 am
it’s funny to look at the box score of Laker games and see Jhill on there
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I wish that was me getting paid to sit in the front row.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Mitt is going to clean up the mess in 2013, just the same as The Reggie is cleaning up this mess.
Print that!!!!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Or like OKC over the Heatles, LOL!
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Chicago is doing pretty well right now. Go EAST !!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:21 am
I met Mitt at Claimjumpers in Henderson, NV during the 2008 election campaign trail.
I told him his #1 priority should be privatizing social security, and went on to pitch him until he just tuned me out after awhile, lol.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Anyway, enough BBall …
I think it is pretty interesting how the GM put out an advertisement letting all interested parties know there is a starting OLB position available.
Someone is certain to send us their resume!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Regarding the top available FA’s:
Are any of them going to come to the Raiders with a cap number less than $2M?
March 26th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Jhill,
See, just what I have been telling you this entire time! He comes right out and admits it.
When your team is making so much just on TV revenue (one report says $200 million a year on that alone), and you are unwilling to pay the luxury tax to keep your team a championship favorite, then you are a cheap azz. Do the math….$200 million on local TV + revenue from national TV deals with ESPN, TNT and ABC + gates + their share of concessions + merchandising…..
Are you really going to buy the revenue sharing and luxury tax excuse the Lakers are falling back on to justify not putting the best team they can on the court?
I am not. How much money do they need to make?
March 26th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Cork and the rest of us has to see T.P. Play at the pro level he was pretty dam good in college and we don’t know until we see! Take Cam Newton for instance! They said he would struggle Pryor Had a whole season watching and wishing and will take advantage of that! He has been reported as a student of the game staying close to the starters Campbell and Palmer! So lets see if you are wrong Cork?
March 26th, 2012 at 7:25 am
@Dakota & JFB
hey now, you know I’m voting for Mitt when he runs versus Prez BO!
just standing on a slim hope that Santorum is the guy instead. the only true conservative, like Huckabee last go round
Can you convince me Huckabee would have done any WORSE than McCain versus B.O. ??? nope
JM was a dope and an old goat to boot. it was too easy to lump him in with GWB.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:29 am
So you want them to be in the 3 dollar tax penalty bracket?
You want them to have restrictions on the moves they can make?
So what if there revenue sharing went up 50 million on top of the taxes?
I don’t think that is necessary. Shaving bum contracts like Walton, Fisher, Odom, etc to be able to pay Bynum, Pau, Kobe and Sessions as core players is not a problem for me.
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see them move Pau for Beasly and a draft pick. Pau is bringing this on himself by playing like Paula!
When Buss Jr gets rid of a productive player, then I’ll believe what you say.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:30 am
You’re right about Chicago, Rockstar…and this year they are doing it without Rose, who was in and out of the doctors office…
March 26th, 2012 at 7:30 am
hey now, you know I’m voting for Mitt when he runs versus Prez BO!
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Is it simply because he’s not BO?
Or do you really think he is a better candidate?
March 26th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Chicago is not going to get past Miami with Rose in there. Rose is going to dominate the ball more than Lucas Jr does.
LeBron will be on Rose in the 4th qtr and that will be that.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:32 am
331.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:25 am
@Dakota & JFB
hey now, you know I’m voting for Mitt when he runs versus Prez BO!
just standing on a slim hope that Santorum is the guy instead. the only true conservative, like Huckabee last go round
Can you convince me Huckabee would have done any WORSE than McCain versus B.O. ??? nope
JM was a dope and an old goat to boot. it was too easy to lump him in with GWB.
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Well good for YOU PEOPLE! You voted with your heart instead of your heads, and it may cost the entire party come November.
Way to cut off your nose to spite your face.
Romney had a chance with the swing voters, but now he has tons of damage control due to you people in the South voting for Santorum, because he looks Oh-shucksey, and the other guy wears funny undies.
Short-sighted people!
Fuk
March 26th, 2012 at 7:33 am
So at the timeshare on vaca (kind of post-anniversary, anniversary thing).
The wifey says she wants to make me pancakes, but don’t look.
The suprise is she bought the official NFL licensed Raider sandwich and pancake grill, where my pancakes have the shield on them, lol.
Awesomeness
March 26th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Dakota,
The BO-Hillary thing went into late June I believe, and was much worse than what we are seeing now.
You got beef, take it up with that dolt Gingrich. He is doing ALL the damage right now.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:38 am
332.J Hill Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:29 am
So you want them to be in the 3 dollar tax penalty bracket?
You want them to have restrictions on the moves they can make?
So what if there revenue sharing went up 50 million on top of the taxes?
I don’t think that is necessary. Shaving bum contracts like Walton, Fisher, Odom, etc to be able to pay Bynum, Pau, Kobe and Sessions as core players is not a problem for me.
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see them move Pau for Beasly and a draft pick. Pau is bringing this on himself by playing like Paula!
When Buss Jr gets rid of a productive player, then I’ll believe what you say.
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#1. what matter is it to the team if the owners have to pay that amount of luxury tax? NONE. This isn’t the NFL with a hard cap.
#2. Just based on their core player’s salaries they are going to be ineligible for the normal mid level exception, so get over it.
#3. Can’t you do math? $50 million is a drop in the bucket for this team!!!! $200 million local tv + national tv + gates + merchandise….you are really giving them that excuse? And besides, the $50 million comes off the top no matter what their payroll is. That is revenue sharing, not a luxury tax! They pay that no matter what…..because they are making boatloads of cash!
get real
March 26th, 2012 at 7:44 am
338.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Dakota,
The BO-Hillary thing went into late June I believe, and was much worse than what we are seeing now.
You got beef, take it up with that dolt Gingrich. He is doing ALL the damage right now.
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Guess what, the media won’t be sucking the republican candidates dik once the primaries are over like they did with Ob@ma in 2008, so you can take that excuse and and and….well you know.
Gingrich? Thank Jezuz he is splitting the moron vote with Santorum!
SMH….you people….look what you have done….
March 26th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:33 am
So at the timeshare on vaca (kind of post-anniversary, anniversary thing).
The wifey says she wants to make me pancakes, but don’t look.
The suprise is she bought the official NFL licensed Raider sandwich and pancake grill, where my pancakes have the shield on them, lol.
Awesomeness
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what will they come up with next! lol
March 26th, 2012 at 7:45 am
@Dakota
I know you’re voting for Romney because you think he’s the only Repub that can go toe-to-toe with B.O. (because they are both greasy politicians)
I’m voting for Santorum. Expecting him to lose to Romney, but if he wins … I think he wins the whole enchilada
still a bunch of conservatives left in America
I don’t know anybody who would vote for B.O. over Romney after Santorum gets whipped
March 26th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Jhill = okay with mega-rich Lakers using a few million in luxury taxes as an excuse to stop going for championships…..
…not me. They got away with trying it on the cheap from 2005-2008….they think the fans will show up as long as they have Kobe.
SMH Don’t give them this excuse Jhill! We are 2 titles away from overtaking the Boston Shmeltics!!!!!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:49 am
what will they come up with next! lol
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Part of my anniversary gift was Raider golf head covers.
Options a-plenty
March 26th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Gingrich? Thank Jezuz he is splitting the moron vote with Santorum!
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@Dakota
conservative = moron vote?
I dont understand, or agree!
1 – Santorum
2 – Gingrich
3 – Romney
in that order ….
BO = not an option
March 26th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I’m voting for Santorum. Expecting him to lose to Romney, but if he wins … I think he wins the whole enchilada
still a bunch of conservatives left in America
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Sorry to break the news…..general elections are won by independent voters these days….there are not enough conservatives to win a general election. Did you not know that? Does the South not understand that? Is that why you people are fking this up?
Hello? McFly? Hello? Think!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:51 am
#1. what matter is it to the team if the owners have to pay that amount of luxury tax? NONE. This isn’t the NFL with a hard cap.
#2. Just based on their core player’s salaries they are going to be ineligible for the normal mid level exception, so get over it.
#3. Can’t you do math? $50 million is a drop in the bucket for this team!!!! $200 million local tv + national tv + gates + merchandise….you are really giving them that excuse? And besides, the $50 million comes off the top no matter what their payroll is. That is revenue sharing, not a luxury tax! They pay that no matter what…..because they are making boatloads of cash!
get real
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What did you really say here, Dakota?
1) Your argument is basically that the Lakers shouldn’t try and turn a profit? How do you know what the other expenses are for the team other than the team? How much is that plane? Day to day business operations?
Buss Jr should be happy with 10 million a year profit after he pays everyone else? LMFAO!
2) So they are going to be over the cap? With just 4 players? Doesn’t sound like the cheap SOB your painting him out to be.
3) Again, you’re trying to tell another family how much money they should be happy with. Damn the fact that they made moves to make us a Championship contender for years to come, AND are and will be WAY over the salary cap.
Boatloads of cash???? This is the Buss family’s only stream of income and you don’t know how much they are pulling in after paying everyone.
AND … you know they are going to get hit with that dreaded death tax sooner than later. Buss Sr isn’t even seen anymore. You know that can’t be good.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:52 am
345.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Gingrich? Thank Jezuz he is splitting the moron vote with Santorum!
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@Dakota
conservative = moron vote?
I dont understand, or agree!
1 – Santorum
2 – Gingrich
3 – Romney
in that order ….
BO = not an option
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Moron vote = those who will vote for the guy who goes to their church over the guy who can win an election come November.
March 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
I don’t know anybody who would vote for B.O. over Romney after Santorum gets whipped
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How many electoral votes does Podunk have?
March 26th, 2012 at 7:54 am
How many electoral votes does Podunk have?
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not enough !!
March 26th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Dakota, that’s what knowledgable citizens say of big business, Wall Street & Main Street (both in NY city & Charlotte, NC, the self proclaimed Wall Street of the South. what morons @ Bank of America) (and China, too). . .how much money do they have to make (@ the @ the expense of the ever dwindling middle class. . .)
March 26th, 2012 at 7:57 am
@Dakota
Romney can beat B.O. , but Santorum can’t?
thats your opinion and anybody who doesn’t agree is a “moron” ?
LOL
it’s gonna be hilarious if Santorum does win and all YOU PEOPLE will claim THE SKY IS FALLING!! until it doesn’t
March 26th, 2012 at 8:00 am
347.J Hill Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:51 am
#1. what matter is it to the team if the owners have to pay that amount of luxury tax? NONE. This isn’t the NFL with a hard cap.
#2. Just based on their core player’s salaries they are going to be ineligible for the normal mid level exception, so get over it.
#3. Can’t you do math? $50 million is a drop in the bucket for this team!!!! $200 million local tv + national tv + gates + merchandise….you are really giving them that excuse? And besides, the $50 million comes off the top no matter what their payroll is. That is revenue sharing, not a luxury tax! They pay that no matter what…..because they are making boatloads of cash!
get real
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What did you really say here, Dakota?
1) Your argument is basically that the Lakers shouldn’t try and turn a profit? How do you know what the other expenses are for the team other than the team? How much is that plane? Day to day business operations?
Buss Jr should be happy with 10 million a year profit after he pays everyone else? LMFAO!
2) So they are going to be over the cap? With just 4 players? Doesn’t sound like the cheap SOB your painting him out to be.
3) Again, you’re trying to tell another family how much money they should be happy with. Damn the fact that they made moves to make us a Championship contender for years to come, AND are and will be WAY over the salary cap.
Boatloads of cash???? This is the Buss family’s only stream of income and you don’t know how much they are pulling in after paying everyone.
AND … you know they are going to get hit with that dreaded death tax sooner than later. Buss Sr isn’t even seen anymore. You know that can’t be good.
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When your team is with a billion dollars, and you are making annual income from just ONE SOURCE, the local TV contract, to pay your entire operating expenses (you can’t tell me that their operating expenses over and above player =salaries run more than $115 million, and they then sit back and bank all the national tv revenue, the gates and the merchandise sales…and you think I don’t want them to make a profit?? Lollollollol
boy, they have you fooled Jhill.
The Lakers spend when they are forced to by their star player and their season ticket holders. Otherwise, they are notoriously cheap. You want to let them ride this lame excuse straight into mediocrity.
Sorry you feel that way.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Jhill = okay with mega-rich Lakers using a few million in luxury taxes as an excuse to stop going for championships…..
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I guess we just see things differently.
I think the Lakers IMPROVED their roster BY FAR since the lockout was lifted. Even tried to trade Bynum for D Howard at the trade deadline.
I would have loved to have Beasley. The Lakers were more focused on getting rid of Fisher. No disrespect to Fisher, but he effin sucked and was THE reason we had no chance at a ring.
Again, imo, we upgraded our ONE weakness and we are now a contender. Sessions will be resigned, and we will make a run at D Howard. IF Pau is traded, we won’t give him away.
So what if we will no longer give dumb arsse contracts to the Waltons of the world?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:00 am
http://www.270towin.com/blog/2012-election/2012-electoral-votes-by-state
@Jhill
does this help ??
March 26th, 2012 at 8:01 am
So what if we will no longer give dumb arsse contracts to the Waltons of the world?
you mean the most under rated NBA player of all time? LOL
March 26th, 2012 at 8:02 am
352.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 7:57 am
@Dakota
Romney can beat B.O. , but Santorum can’t?
thats your opinion and anybody who doesn’t agree is a “moron” ?
LOL
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That’s right.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Dakota,
What are we arguing about????
The Lakers are a championship contender RIGHT NOW.
Will be one of the favorites for at least the next 2 years.
What’s the problem again?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Sorry to break the news…..general elections are won by independent voters these days….
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That’s BS.
Sorry to break the news to YOU, but the presidential election is won by the person who, we’ll call them “the committee”, decides is going to win.
In fact it’s already been decided.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:08 am
For the love of GOD, I hope there is some football news, and soon!
March 26th, 2012 at 8:09 am
358.J Hill Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Dakota,
What are we arguing about????
The Lakers are a championship contender RIGHT NOW.
Will be one of the favorites for at least the next 2 years.
What’s the problem again?
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We’ll see. When they dump Gasol this summer, or use the luxury tax excuse to not keep Sessions or Barnes, then we will know won’t we?
So far they have used two first round picks to acquire two rental players, and sat on the Lamar Odom trade exception and the prior trade exception they acquired….saving money instead of going for it.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:11 am
@Dakota
Santorum = Dennis Allen
Gingrich = Tom Cable
Romney = Mike Shanahan
all better than Hue Jackson (Prez B.O.)
get it ???
we’re on the same team!
March 26th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Dakota Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:09 am
358.J Hill Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Dakota,
What are we arguing about????
The Lakers are a championship contender RIGHT NOW.
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How much of a favorite would they be right now had they offered Minny their first rounder and the trade exception to get Beasely instead of insisting on Minny taking on Fishers bad contract in order to save a buck or two?
In the name of a few million in luxury taxes, they failed to give us the best opportunity we could have to win another title. That is what bothers me, and should bother you as well. These are the Lakers, not the Buck….crying poor just doesn’t cut it.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:14 am
359.J Hill Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Sorry to break the news…..general elections are won by independent voters these days….
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That’s BS.
Sorry to break the news to YOU, but the presidential election is won by the person who, we’ll call them “the committee”, decides is going to win.
In fact it’s already been decided.
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Is Jim Buss making those calls too?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:15 am
When they dump Gasol this summer, or use the luxury tax excuse to not keep Sessions or Barnes, then we will know won’t we?
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If they dump Gasol for a trade exception, don’t resign Sessions, and we end up with just Kobe and Bynum, then I’ll be right there with you.
If we dump Gasol, don’t resign Sessions but end up with Deron Williams, D Howard and a lottery pick, I won’t be crying about us saving 20 million.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Santorum = Dennis Allen
Gingrich = Tom Cable
Romney = Mike Shanahan
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Reminds me, isn’t there a new “Three Stooges” movie coming out soon?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:18 am
LOL
If Jim Buss was anywhere near “the committee” Minnesota’s owner would have had “something” happen to him for effin us outta Beasley.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:18 am
@G123
Dennis Allen = stooge?
Ouch!
guy hasn’t even coached a game yet !!
March 26th, 2012 at 8:19 am
If we dump Gasol, don’t resign Sessions but end up with Deron Williams, D Howard and a lottery pick, I won’t be crying about us saving 20 million
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LOL!!
Jhill starting to sound like Raider O with those “sign Mario Williams” chants
March 26th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Jhill=in Da’ Nile baby!!!!!
March 26th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Am Crew talking politics?!?!
You People…….
Good morning.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:23 am
367.J Hill Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:18 am
LOL
If Jim Buss was anywhere near “the committee” Minnesota’s owner would have had “something” happen to him for effin us outta Beasley.
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Funny….but then you throw in some bs at the end…..Jim Buss effed us out of Beasely by not making the no-brainer offer of the trade exception and the first round pick to Minny.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:25 am
SMH….you people can’t be reasoned with.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:25 am
instead of insisting on Minny taking on Fishers bad contract in order to save a buck or two?
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You are just stuck on that.
Original deal had Blake going to Portland and Fisher wasn’t even in that deal. They ended up keeping Blake, WHO MAKES MORE THAN FISHER. Fisher was only going to make 3 million dollars next year. You really believe that 6 million dollars (Fishers 3 million plus the 3 million luxury tax) stopped us from getting Beasley?
Why is it so hard to believe that they just wanted to get rid of him because he sucks and wouldn’t have been a good soldier transitioning to Sessions? You see he pouted his way to OKC.
We were willing to keep the higher paid Blake AND take on Beasley’s contract, but we are being cheap????
March 26th, 2012 at 8:26 am
LMAO at Herman Cain. Is he for real?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:27 am
If you belong to the same party as H Cain, then you are in deep shyyt.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:28 am
LMAO at Herman Cain. Is he for real?
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Herman Cain > Prez B.O.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Cain makes most monkeys here look/ sound like Einstein.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Cain makes most monkeys here look/ sound like Einstein
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and Prez B.O. makes Herman Cain sound like Einstein!
sad, eh?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Jim Buss effed us out of Beasely by not making the no-brainer offer of the trade exception and the first round pick to Minny.
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But Kupchak and the Minny GM are the ones on the phones making the trade.
BOTH of them believed they had a deal!!!!!
With SEVEN MINUTES LEFT before the trade deadline ended, the Minny owner came in and said NO DEAL. You’re assuming that the owner would have accepted the deal you proposed. What if he was just like Stern and was trying to eff us knowing how strong our roster would be if we added Beasley AND Sessions? Why are you so quick to blame our owner?
With it only being 7 minutes left for deals to be done, and the owner already backing out on something that was agreed to, why wasted that little bit of time instead of going with something that was already on the table.
7 minutes?????
March 26th, 2012 at 8:33 am
RR,
I don’t belong to any party (except the green party), but we all should agree that Cain shouldn’t be considered as an adoption for any position in any gov office.
Slap yourself for saying Cain > BO.
RMR > Cain
March 26th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Slap yourself for saying Cain > BO.
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nope – I stand by that
March 26th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I don’t agree with BO on a lot of things but comparing Cain to BO is ludicrous.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Obviously.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:11 am
@Dakota
Santorum = Dennis Allen
Gingrich = Tom Cable
Romney = Mike Shanahan
all better than Hue Jackson (Prez B.O.)
get it ???
we’re on the same team!
March 26th, 2012 at 8:38 am
RR,
Dakota is right. You People are beyond help.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:39 am
BO is an embarrassment to the United States of America.
The end
March 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Exactly jhill. 7 minutes. The lakers have next year to use the lamar trade exception. It isn’t just about being cheap anymore. The collective bargaining deal says if you are even one dollar over cap you can’t make any trades and can only sign only sign free agents for the league minimum. Teams have a year to get under the cap. Time to celebrate kupchak for finding teams to take Walton and fishers contracts. Next move will be to amnesty kobe and his 27 and 30 million contract
March 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Jhill,
They had a trade in place for Beasely well before the trade deadline, but it was widely reported that the Lakers refused to do it for financial reasons.
Don’t be dense. They tried to shave off luxury tax dollars instead of making the deal that would have really put us back on top as contenders.
Refuse to believe it all you want…..but it is happening.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:41 am
What I miss while I was on vacation?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Sup BCZ.
how long you been gone?
we’ll get you up to speed
March 26th, 2012 at 8:43 am
beautiful day! starting the week nicely! please no politics…how is the draft looking? going for a starting LB and some depth at RB, LB, & DT?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Looks like a bunch of politics and basketball
March 26th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Cain is an embarrassment to the human race.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:44 am
KingDan Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Exactly jhill. 7 minutes. The lakers have next year to use the lamar trade exception.
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zzzzzzzzzzz they had two years to use their last trade exemption too now didn’t they? Did they use it?
Nope.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:44 am
About 9 days. Wont be around much for the next few days either. Unseasonably warm weather has me with WAY too much business and not enough help. LOL
March 26th, 2012 at 8:45 am
2011 third-round supplemental pick Terrelle Pryor expects to stay at quarterback under the Raiders’ new coaching staff.
Pryor was asked Saturday whether he’d heard rumors of a position switch to wide receiver or tight end. “I haven’t heard them,” he said. “That’s not even a question. I’m still working to become the best quarterback.” Pryor is spending the early offseason working out at the team facility and watching film. He’ll compete to be Carson Palmer’s primary backup this year.
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Rockstar, this will brighten your day and hopefully change the subject from politics.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Why because he is black and Conservative? Self made man that didn’t rely on affirmative action? How dare he step off the Dem plantation?
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Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Cain is an embarrassment to the human race.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:47 am
I would be very embarrassed if I belonged to the same party as Cain. Reps should put a muzzle on him, so normal/ independent voters can take the rep party serious again.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I dont know much about public admin but the 9-9-9 plan sounded pretty damn good to me!
March 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
If you heard Cain speak, and you are asking why he is an idiot, then there is no hope for you.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Chargers’ Spanos says some teams are controlled by agents
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 26, 2012, 8:36 AM EDT
AP
Plenty of NFL owners and general managers have had issues with agents from time to time, but few go as far in their criticisms as Chargers owner Dean Spanos and General Manager A.J. Smith, who describe agents as somewhere between useless and destructive.
In a U-T San Diego story that examines the influence of Tom Condon and CAA on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes and other free agent movements around the NFL, Spanos and Smith sound the alarm about agents’ influence.
“Agents have a lot of control over different teams,” Spanos said. “It’s a bad situation, where certain teams are controlled by agents with key coaches and key players. It’s certainly a problem we need to continue to address. . . . There are other owners that feel the same.”
Of course, agents can’t really control owners or general managers at all: Any owner or general manager can choose not to do business with anyone he doesn’t want to do business with. Smith acknowledged that and indicated that the Chargers are ahead of the rest of the league in refusing to allow agents to manipulate them.
“An agent is only powerful, manipulative and influential if you allow it,” Smith said. “There is no ‘we’ in the [agent-team] relationship. The most important aspect of this whole deal is the team. That’s all that ever matters.”
Smith claims that agents don’t actually do their clients any good — at least not in San Diego, where Smith says the Chargers make players fair offers and then don’t change those offers no matter what the agent asks for.
“A player could be represented by superagent Tom Condon or his next-door neighbor,” Smith said. “It really is the same procedure for us. You either like what you’re hearing from us, or you don’t.”
If Spanos is right that some teams are controlled by agents, and if Smith is right that the Chargers don’t allow agents to influence them, then they should actually be happy with the state of things: The Chargers would have an advantage relative to the rest of the league.
If, on the other hand, working with agents instead of against them can sometimes be helpful to teams, and if that’s what the Chargers’ division rivals in Denver just did in the Manning chase, it’s easy to see why the Chargers would be disgruntled right now
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I loathe the Chargers, But I am in agreement with there views on agents.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Btw, BO is a blk man who is self made. You make no sense.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:52 am
KingDan Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Exactly jhill. 7 minutes. The lakers have next year to use the lamar trade exception.
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Can u believe someone is actually complaining about the the Lakers after dumping Walton and Fishers eff’d up contracts? And getting out from under Kardashian before he literally had his LASTEST mental meltdown?
99.9% of the folks on the planet think Mitch Kupchak came out on top. Then there’s that other .1%, lol.
He’s going to complain when we use our amnesty exception on Artest next year. I can already see it coming.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:54 am
JFB,
Getting ready for the Tebow PC?
March 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
You people are proving Aristotle right. He wasnt a fan of Democracy because he thought the avg man doesn’t know enough about politics to make those kind of decisions.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
You people are proving Aristotle right. He wasnt a fan of Democracy because he thought the avg man doesn’t know enough about politics to make those kind of decisions.
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Now that was an intelligent post!
March 26th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Morning/ afternoon peoples!
Get a deal done w/ Branch.
Sign Lawson.
Problem solved.
March 26th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Jake locker never completed 60% of his passes, the highest was 58, and he went in the 1st round.
TP lowest comp % was 56, his highest was 65%, he had issues off the field, so he went in the 3rd round.
TP > Locker > Tebow
If you are a Raider fan, you like Tebow as a QB but not TP, then there is something wrong with you.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:04 am
It’s ok not to like TP, but to say a freak show like Tebow is a better QB than TP is crazy IMO.
Tebow struggles to complete 45% of his passes.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Morning DMAC.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Watching NFLN …
Ryan says that Tebow will get 20 snaps a game.
What a damn circus.
2 QBs?????
March 26th, 2012 at 9:07 am
RR,
# 408, what do you think about that.
Btw, I just don’t like Cain, but I have nothing against the Rep Party. did you know most American Musl!ms are Reps?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:08 am
I just want to see some form of success from TP. It doesn’t matter what position he ends up playing. As far as I am concerned it would be an added bonus if he could be a legit NFL QB. I need to see something from him in the NFL, Then I can better gauge what I think. until then TP is…???
I look foward to preseason.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Tebow = Freak Show
Tebow + Ryan + Jets + NY = Zoo
March 26th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Vegas,
TP didn’t play WR at college. He had 2 or 3 reception and 1 TD in 3 years. I think Barnes had more snaps at TE.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:11 am
No Mas Politico
No Mas NBA
Even Charger talk is encouraged.
TIA
March 26th, 2012 at 9:14 am
411.J Hill Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Watching NFLN …
Ryan says that Tebow will get 20 snaps a game.
What a damn circus.
2 QBs?????
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Oh man, get your popcorn ready! Rex Ryan better get his resume ready!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I wonder if the official word on Lee’s contract and what has to be done to free up more money is why we have not heard anything so far in ref to a new Defensive NED?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:04 am
It’s ok not to like TP, but to say a freak show like Tebow is a better QB than TP is crazy IMO.
Tebow struggles to complete 45% of his passes.
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Call me crazy, but I have at least seen Tebow complete some passes in the NFL. I have yet to see TP complete even one.
Where have you been watching him play in the NFL?
A parallel universe? Talk about a crazy person!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:19 am
What a joke… not that I mind because I despise the jets. If you thought Sanchez was fragile minded before just wait until next season! Tebow will be starting by week 4. I can’t wait for that implosion!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Terrell Pryor has not thrown a pass and only got one play due to Jacksons play calling and his suspension! If he were not Suspended and entered the Draft we wouldn’t be having these talks! He would be on another team for sure!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Tebow struggles to compete 45% of his passes. He has a QB rating similar to JR’s, but you have to see TP throw? Can he be any worse?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Politics, Lakers, and people pimping Pryor without actually seeing him play.
Ok… I am out until a new thread is started… have at it folks!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:24 am
The Pryor vs. Tebow argument can’t even take place until after Pryor gets some starts under his belt. Regardless of that I’m going to stick with my belief that Pryor would be better in the NFL. Why you ask? Because he’s a Raider and I hate Tebow.
As far as the argument of where Pryor would have been taken in the real draft. I had a bet with my father in law that Tebow would be taken in the 1st round. Why? Because I knew someone would take a flyer on him because of what he “could be” capable of. Sometimes you have to gamble… I have a hard time believing that the same thing wouldn’t apply to Pryor. Boom or Bust the bottom line, Pryor where’s silver and black so I’m behind him.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:24 am
why not Pryor he is a Raider? LMAO! Bye!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Name one QB in the NFL that has a lower CMP % than Tebow. I have seen TP throw (college), and he is a WIP, but he doesn’t miss wide open WRs less than 10 yards away.
Tebow = Freak Show.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I also don’t think it makes any since for people to write him off as a QB (Cork!) when we haven’t even seen him play at this level. Until then I’m a Pryor fan.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Tebow struggles to compete 45% of his passes. He has a QB rating similar to JR’s, but you have to see TP throw? Can he be any worse?
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Sure. WHy not? Scouts said he had worse mechanics than Tebow… and he had accuracy issues even in college.
You DO understand how important mechanics are to a PROFESSIONAL QB, correct?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:27 am
The only complaint I have heared from the Locker room is that he has a lot to say in meetings and Campbell must have seen something he flew the coupe to be a back up! LMAO!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Got an e-mail from the nfl letting me watch the Tebow presser.Think I’ll give it a miss.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:28 am
At least Mad Men is back.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Them same scouts will be on his jock if he succeeds!they will be the ones trying to price him away from us later! Media! play the dam game! lol!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I kinda’ miss Cpt. Kirk and Tommy Howard.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Watched “moneyball” last week.Don’t know squat ’bout baseball but enjoyed the film.
Anyone here at the “20″ game?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Sign a LB AL!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:30 am
raiderjhawk Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I also don’t think it makes any since for people to write him off as a QB (Cork!) when we haven’t even seen him play at this level. Until then I’m a Pryor fan.
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Well at least your honest about it. Blind faith gets many people through the day.
IIRC, Cork talked to people that actually saw him throwing in practice.
You don’t fix arm swing problems overnight folks… ok, have at it though!!
And people thought Tebow was a messiah figure!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:31 am
March 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Politics, Lakers, and people pimping Pryor without actually seeing him play.
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You watched TP at college?
Nothing worse than people forming opinions based on nothing. I have seen the kid throw for 3 years, and I watched Tebow throw in the NFL. I understand it’s not the same (you don’t have to a rocket scientist to realize that), but saying Tebow is better just because he played in the NFL is not a valid argument.
Based on that logic or lack of, Tebow is better than RG3 and Luck.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:31 am
434.neilb Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Watched “moneyball” last week.Don’t know squat ’bout baseball but enjoyed the film.
Anyone here at the “20″ game?
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Nope, but I saw Babe Ruth call his shot against the Cubs…..
March 26th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Kinda asked for that!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Dakota = TV addict. Health issues come as no surprise…
March 26th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Sure. WHy not? Scouts said he had worse mechanics than Tebow… and he had accuracy issues even in college.
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Link supporting your statement about the scouts?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Per profootballtalk.com only 74 of the top 100 FA’s have been signed leaving 26 to so far get a cold sholder with only lower price tags avalible! get one Reggie!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Never watched “Mad men”.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Tebow > Pryor
NFL QBs must have judgment, maturity and leadership.
OSU does not teach these (no NFL qbs of note, ever).
But hey, the Vest got TP some cool tats!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Remember this ish?
-BHP’s MUP List-
01rdrfan ; D.Moore – WR
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Albert Bigelow Paine ; Chaz Schillens – WR
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
(X)Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Giordano – DB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
(X)Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
(IR)BigTed707 ; R.Brown – LB(My pick is a curse)
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(X)Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
(X)BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; T.Scott – DE
CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
(IR)Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Wiz 2.0 – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
(X)Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
DIRT-LOT ; DHB – WR
DMAC ; Bruce Campbell – OL
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
DonManoukiansNeighbor; D.Hagan – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
EMRaiders ; D.Moore – WR
Exlaraiderseasinticketholder ; Denarius Moore – WR
FarEastRaider ; T.Jones – RB
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
(X)GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Ghostraiders ; Hagan – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; Chaz Schillens – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; DHB – WR
JLofty ; D.Moore – WR
(X)Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
(X)KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
(X)LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
LMN ; Jarvis Moss – DE
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Heyer – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
M Lonetree ; Stephon Heyer – OL
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
(X)MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
No Mas Diamante ; DVD – CB
Noteasilyimpressed ; R.Gordon – TE
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
PatchedUp ; D.Moore – WR
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purvisman ; DHB – WR
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
(X)Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaideredoutL.A ; Derek Hagan – WR
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderjambo ; D.Moore – WR
Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
*Raiderman99 ; Carson Palmer – QB
(X)RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
Realtruraider ; DHB – WR
(X)Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Derek Hagan – WR
(PS)*RFL ; Jerome Boyd – S?
Ryan ; Hagan – WR
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; Chaz – WR
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; DVD – CB
SilverNBlackPA ; T.Jones – RB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
TBRaiders ; D.Moore – WR
The Big Banana ; T. Jones – RB
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Try Some Reality ; Denarius Moore – WR
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Barkesdale – OL
Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL
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GRATS TO THE DHB SUPPORTERS! Most here doubted he would ever have that kind of year.
Consolation prizes to WIZ and D.MOORE
March 26th, 2012 at 9:38 am
440.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Dakota = TV addict. Health issues come as no surprise…
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DVR = 10 years off my life expectancy
I do hit the treadmill for 20 minutes 5 times a week.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Btw, TP had a better CMP% than Jake Locker who also went in the 1st round.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Per profootballtalk.com only 74 of the top 100 FA’s have been signed leaving 26 to so far get a cold sholder with only lower price tags avalible! get one Reggie!
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Don’t think Reggie will bother.I’ll bet he’s already thinking about un-drafted free agents.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:40 am
He can’t be any worse the Jamarcus and he was taken #1.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Glad to hear that Dakota.
And Beasley sux.
In Kokchap we trust.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Preppie,
Your hate is clouding your judgement.
What does weed and Mich have in common? They both get smoked in Bowls.
How do you make Mich cookies? You put’em in a bowl and beat them for 3 hours.
I hope you enjoyed that sigle win the last 9 years. Be Scuuurrrrred Preppie? UM will destroy you for the next 6 years.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I trust Kokchap….I don’t trust Jim Pony Boy Buss.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Raider O = Back up in this biz! Did you bring bananas?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:45 am
452.Dakota Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I trust Kokchap….I don’t trust Jim Pony Boy Buss.
I definitely agree with that one!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Funny, yet spurious nonetheless Mustafa.
Pryor is a ten year old upstairs. OSU simply does not prepare pro qbs…
TE perhaps for TP.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Funny, yet spurious nonetheless Mustafa.
Pryor is a ten year old upstairs. OSU simply does not prepare pro qbs…
TE perhaps for TP.
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hahaha. Perhaps true but can we trust this info coming from a Michigan fan?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Whats a 10 year old doing upstairs?
If you say rotting, I’m gonna barf.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:50 am
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
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LOL, thanks Ted!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:51 am
As a Raider I wish TP were not immature and inaccurate AIG….yet I fear the other 29 teams were right about him.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:53 am
BT707,
Not enough. Too many monkeys!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Even though my bracket didn’t go as well as planned. I still have Kentucky and Kansas in the final w/ Kentucky taking it all.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
yo BSJ
I spent my whole weekend in Illinois
Lotawata Creek Southern Grill = bomb !!!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:55 am
ESPN reports soon-to-be suspended Saints coach Sean Payton has approached Bill Parcells about filling in for him for the 2012 season.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
March 26th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Terrelle Pryor will be coached up by Knapp, Defilippo & Southwick. oh yeah, and he’ll learn a bunch from Carson Palmer too
Pryor = 2014 franchise QB!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:57 am
RR,
Read posts 408 & 412.
March 26th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Probably already posted, by I was to lazy to scroll up and read.
2011 third-round supplemental pick Terrelle Pryor expects to stay at quarterback under the Raiders’ new coaching staff.
Pryor was asked Saturday whether he’d heard rumors of a position switch to wide receiver or tight end. “I haven’t heard them,” he said. “That’s not even a question. I’m still working to become the best quarterback.” Pryor is spending the early offseason working out at the team facility and watching film. He’ll compete to be Carson Palmer’s primary backup this year.
Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
March 26th, 2012 at 9:57 am
463.DMAC Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:55 am
ESPN reports soon-to-be suspended Saints coach Sean Payton has approached Bill Parcells about filling in for him for the 2012 season.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Seen that too! Isn’t that funny? only because I don’t think that Parcells wants to step back on the sideline!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:58 am
*Raiderman99 ; Carson Palmer – QB
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Wow, I thought this was laughable last year – I think this pick was made before we got T. Edwards?
March 26th, 2012 at 9:58 am
ESPN reports soon-to-be suspended Saints coach Sean Payton has approached Bill Parcells about filling in for him for the 2012 season.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
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why?
thats stupid.
the Saints are in good hands with Steve Spagnuolo running the defense (that just added Bunkley & Lofton) and Pete Carmichael Jr. running that potent offense with Drew Brees under center
March 26th, 2012 at 9:58 am
TP!
TP!
TP!
March 26th, 2012 at 9:59 am
TP!!!
TP!!!
TP!!!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
TP running an option inside the redzone?
Anyone?
March 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
*Raiderman99 ; Carson Palmer – QB
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@Ted
that must be a “revised” list
my sources indicate RM99 lobbied for Vince Young the past two offseasons
March 26th, 2012 at 10:01 am
BigTed707 Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Remember this ish?
-BHP’s MUP List-
01rdrfan ; D.Moore – WR
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Albert Bigelow Paine ; Chaz Schillens – WR
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
(X)Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Giordano – DB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
(X)Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
(IR)BigTed707 ; R.Brown – LB(My pick is a curse)
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(X)Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
(X)BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; T.Scott – DE
CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
(IR)Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Wiz 2.0 – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
(X)Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
DIRT-LOT ; DHB – WR
DMAC ; Bruce Campbell – OL
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
DonManoukiansNeighbor; D.Hagan – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
EMRaiders ; D.Moore – WR
Exlaraiderseasinticketholder ; Denarius Moore – WR
FarEastRaider ; T.Jones – RB
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
(X)GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Ghostraiders ; Hagan – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; Chaz Schillens – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; DHB – WR
JLofty ; D.Moore – WR
(X)Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
(X)KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
(X)LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
LMN ; Jarvis Moss – DE
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Heyer – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
M Lonetree ; Stephon Heyer – OL
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
(X)MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
No Mas Diamante ; DVD – CB
Noteasilyimpressed ; R.Gordon – TE
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
PatchedUp ; D.Moore – WR
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purvisman ; DHB – WR
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
(X)Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaideredoutL.A ; Derek Hagan – WR
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderjambo ; D.Moore – WR
Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
*Raiderman99 ; Carson Palmer – QB
(X)RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
Realtruraider ; DHB – WR
(X)Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Derek Hagan – WR
(PS)*RFL ; Jerome Boyd – S?
Ryan ; Hagan – WR
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; Chaz – WR
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; DVD – CB
SilverNBlackPA ; T.Jones – RB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
TBRaiders ; D.Moore – WR
The Big Banana ; T. Jones – RB
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Try Some Reality ; Denarius Moore – WR
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Barkesdale – OL
Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL
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GRATS TO THE DHB SUPPORTERS! Most here doubted he would ever have that kind of year.
Consolation prizes to WIZ and D.MOORE
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Wow someone went with Bryson Kelly!
I like my pick of D.Moore
March 26th, 2012 at 10:01 am
470.DMAC Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:58 am
TP!
TP!
TP!
471.Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:59 am
TP!!!
TP!!!
TP!!!
for my bunghole….
March 26th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Chilli cheese dog for your bunghole??
March 26th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I’ll pass
March 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
DMAC Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
TP running an option inside the redzone?
Anyone?
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Anything, but pounding bush 4 times only to 4 and out
March 26th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Big plans for AC??? Or???
Raiders WLB Aaron Curry’s new contract actually tacked four years onto his old rookie deal, keeping Curry under Oakland’s control through 2016.
The final three seasons are voidable, however, and none of Curry’s $3.5 million due in 2013 is guaranteed. It’s believed the deal will void after two seasons, assuming Curry is still a Raider then. He received a $1.885 million signing bonus and a 2012 base salary of $615,000. Curry should return as a starter in 2012, and he will be back in 2013 if he plays well on the weak side.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:05 am
@Ted
that must be a “revised” list
my sources indicate RM99 lobbied for Vince Young the past two offseasons
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I thought this was more a dig at JCamp, or “JaJason” as RM99 would say, but it turned out to be quite prolific.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Tjbwall Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
DMAC Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
TP running an option inside the redzone?
Anyone?
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Anything, but pounding bush 4 times only to 4 and out
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Fa’sho
March 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Rhett Bomar for student council president!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I want AC to ball!!
I think he has the potential.
These new coaches have there work cut out for them.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Glad you enjoyed IL Rockstar.
I haven’t been there, but East Saint Louis is not highly regarded among Illinoisans.
In fact, anything south of Peoria is basically Kentucky.
So I bet you enjoyed the cheesy fries and chicken strips.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
I love my A’s, but I won’t be up at 3am to check them out live.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:10 am
I heard they did good in Tokyo though…
March 26th, 2012 at 10:11 am
BSJ,
So Kentucky is the home of cheesy fries and chicken strips? Hmmmmmmm
March 26th, 2012 at 10:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:10 am
I heard they did good in Tokyo though…
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They have, but I think they got there asses kicked last night or this morning though.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
@BSJ
Fairview Heights, IL was cool man.
the Ramada was a pos though!!
my brother n law is stationed at Scott AFB right now
just helped him move into a new duplex in New Baden, IL.
love that small town. Reminds me of what Cloverdale, CA used to be like
March 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
What i have told people about the Raiders I will say about the A’s…I believe this season they will surprise many of you!!!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
BTW, I just learned my main man Jimmy Carter quit the Southern Baptists over their stone age views on women’s rights.
JC = (still) best prez since FDR!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I want AC to ball!!
I think he has the potential.
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With Manning and Rivers in the division, the LBs aren’t going to play a huge role for us this year
Best thing about McClain is he is already pretty good in pass coverage. He’ll be the LB on the field the most. The other LB will be rushing the passer most of the time.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Saint Charles, MO was cool too
March 26th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DMAC Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:11 am
BSJ,
So Kentucky is the home of cheesy fries and chicken strips? Hmmmmmmm
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No I had to google RRS’s trailer resort of choice. Found high ratings for their fried fare.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Queefs going w/ the zone blocking 2?
New Chiefs RT Eric Winston revealed in a written interview with SI.com’s Peter King that Kansas City will run a zone-blocking scheme in 2012.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
What i have told people about the Raiders I will say about the A’s…I believe this season they will surprise many of you!!!
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Ditto
March 26th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Jimmy Carter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I had to google RRS’s trailer resort of choice. Found high ratings for their fried fare.
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LOL!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Kansas City will run a zone-blocking scheme in 2012
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that will be quite a transition for Charles & Hillis!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:20 am
I don’t like Dems, but I do like Carter & Clinton.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:20 am
is Jimmy Carter’s slogan the same as BSJ’s ?
Just Google, Baby!
education = wikipedia
March 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Carter > Clinton IMO
We need more Jimmy Carters in this country and world. 1st class human being.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Weak.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Raider O,
whatever you do – don’t ask BC for a cigar!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Jimmy Carter’s slogan was Peace and Integrity, RRS.
Kind of mimics another JC you are a big fan of, no?
March 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
BTW Mustafa, you were spot on about the Hermanator this AM…
Guy needs to visit RRS in Uzbeki-beki-beki-beki-beki-podunkistan.
I prefer my President have a better intellect than most of the voting electorate.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Jimmy Carter’s slogan was Peace and Integrity, RRS.
Kind of mimics another JC you are a big fan of, no?
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I like Jason Campbell more than Jimmy Carter, actually
I wish Jimmy would have accepted Jesus while he was in office. might not have been so weak & douchey
March 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I prefer my President have a better intellect than most of the voting electorate
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I assume BSJ isn’t voting to re-elect Prez B.O. then?
suhweet!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
The whole debate over whether TP would have been a 1st round pick is so ridiculous!!!
He went throught the sup draft, and was a mid 3rd round pick. End of story!!!!
Who’s fault is it that he was facing a suspension and going through the sup draft? All off-the-field issues factor into where one is drafted.
I hope I am wrong on TP, because it is hell to waste a 3rd round pick, but I don’t think he is an option as a NFL QB.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:31 am
What are some of Jimmy Carter’s failures as president?
The Iranian Hostage Crisis—The deposed Shah of Iran had come to the U.S. to get treatment for cancer. When he arrived, the Iranians stormed our embassy, and held about 20 U.S. diplomats hostage for a little over a year. Carter tried a military rescue attempt, that failed miserably, with our helicopters crashing in the desert about 100 miles outside of Tehran, and about 30 solders getting killed. The Iranians only started to seriously negotiate the hostages release when Reagan was the president elect, and let them go about 10 minutes after he was officially sworn into office.
Overly trusting the Soviet Union—He had negotiated an arms control treaty with Leonid Brezhnev, the then leader of the now deposed Soviet Union, trusting he would abide by it. About a month later, Brezhnev marched his Soviet troupes into Afghanistan, and overtook the country.
The economy—Under the Carter administration, both unemployment and inflation rose at a significant rate. One of his campaign promises was that he would send every American a $50.00 bill, hoping they would spend it and stimulate the economy. That never even came close to happening.
Weakening the military—Besides the failed rescue attempt previously mentioned (which happened a little less then a year before he left office) Carter pretty much gutted out the military. Even though the economy was terrible, enlistments were down, and more people who were already in the military were leaving at a faster pace once their time was up. This, along with the unexpected Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, was the reason why he reinstated young men who were between the ages of 18-20 (of which I was one) to register for a potential draft.
Not respected by our NATO allies–What the leader of France had to say about him could not be repeated on the airwaves. The rest of the NATO countries did not sing high praises of him neither.
Being blindly naive–He was, by far, way to trusting! The Soviet Union is just one case in such!
A terrible speaker—He would always lick his lips, and give a nervous smile (which happened way far to often) whenever a reporter caught him off guard with a question. More often then not, he came across as unsure of himself. Not the image you want the leader of the #1 power in the free world to portray.
The only reason he got elected in the first place was it was two years after the Watergate Scandal, and most of the country had not forgiven Gerald Ford for having pardoned Richard Nixon. When the 1980 election arrived, it was no surprise that Ronald Reagan beat him by an enormous landslide!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:34 am
RR
LOL
Clinton was a P I M P
March 26th, 2012 at 10:35 am
At TP’s “Pro-day” 15 of the 32 teams didn’t even show up.
Does that sound like a 1st rounder? Half the league wouldn’t even show up to watch him, and probably wouldn’t have even drafted him, in the 7th round.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Has anyone heard anything about Houston moving inside?
Or is that just pure speculation by, us semi’s.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:36 am
2012 draft class features draft picks surrendered to acquire Palmer, Campbell & Pryor.
I assume we wont be drafting a QB this year.
We’ll roll with Bomar as #3 QB or get a cheap vet in here like Matt Leinart or A.J. Feeley
March 26th, 2012 at 10:37 am
“It ain’t White-Boy Day, is it?”
March 26th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Deportation is in your future.
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guest123 Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 9:11 am
No Mas Politico
No Mas NBA
March 26th, 2012 at 10:37 am
RRS, methinks you worship Jesus Conan and not the Prince of Peace. Check yourself, little evangelist.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:38 am
I knew you were going to post something about the Iranian hostage situation. I will allow Preppie to handle this issue, since most of you people think I have my own agenda about anything related to that area.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Free Dharun Ravi!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Carter was the biggest failure of a US pres and then came BO to surpass him. And you want more J Carters?
lmao
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Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Carter > Clinton IMO
We need more Jimmy Carters in this country and world. 1st class human being.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Again, I hope I am wrong.
If TP replaces a struggling Palmer and wins the division (like Tebow last year), Bruce Campbell Beasts out at RT, Aaron Curry puts down the bible and learns how to think on the field, and DVD emerges as a starting CB, that would be some serious egg on your boys face, and I would be pleased as punch.
YOU PEOPLE, need to realize, that EVERY NFL team has somewhere between 10-20% of their roster of guys who will be out of the league in a year or three.
We have guys on our current roster, who suck, and will be out of the league soon. This is how it works. Not hating on players, wishing against them succeeding or anything, it is just dealing with reality.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I’ll leave the knuckle dragger alone on this one Mustafa. He is, after all, hoping for a Santorum/Cain ticket. Enough said there…
Problem is, he gives my saviour a bad name.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Here is the full Pryor article. At the least, he’s definitely saying ALL the right things.
Oakland Raiders quarterback Terrelle Pryor signed autographs in Steelers’ territory Saturday afternoon.
The former Jeannette High School and Ohio State superstar was at Westmoreland Mall near Greensburg signing photos, jerseys and other memorabilia during a two-hour session. With a wide grin, Pryor shook hands, poised for pictures and talked to hundreds of fans waiting to see him — all for a fee that started at $30.
Pryor is about to begin his second season in the NFL, and he enters it as a quarterback. He dismissed rumors that the Raiders organization, which selected him Aug. 23 in the third round of the supplemental draft, asked him to switch positions.
“I haven’t heard them,” Pryor said about the rumors. “That’s not even a question. I’m still working to become the best quarterback.”
Pryor spent his first season in Oakland watching and learning from the sidelines.
He got on the field for one play, but the Raiders were penalized before the snap and Pryor returned to the sidelines. The game was Oct. 23 against Kansas City.
“I had a whole package for that game,” Pryor said. “I was going to make a bunch of throws, but we ended up getting smashed and I was yanked. Who knows where it would have gone? I’m confident I would have been successful during that time. We were down, 21-0, and we didn’t run any plays.”
Pryor missed the first five games of the season; the NFL honored the NCAA’s suspension levied when he was at Ohio State. He also missed much of training camp while waiting for the NFL to make a decision that allowed Pryor to enter the supplemental draft.
He said it was tough not being able to learn with the Raiders during that five-week period. He didn’t get paid, and he couldn’t have any contact with the coaches.
“The suspension put me way behind,” Pryor said. “But the future is bright, and I’m living in the future.”
After the season, Oakland fired coach Hue Jackson. The Raiders hired Dennis Allen to replace him.
Even though Pryor said he felt Jackson wanted Pryor to be successful, he’s excited about the new coaching staff.
“I’m getting a fresh start with the new staff coming in,” Pryor said. “I’m going to learn the new system just like all the other quarterbacks. All I’m just looking for is a fair shot.”
Pryor will be competing against veteran quarterback Carson Palmer — who the Raiders acquired during the season — and Rhett Bomar.
“The new staff told us that all positions are open, so you have to battle for the position you want,” Pryor said. “There is going to be some good competition. Once you get the position, you have to keep fighting for it.
“Like Tom Brady said, he felt he had to work hard every day, like he was going to lose his job. That’s what gives him that edge that he never wanted to be behind someone. That quote right there lifted me up and picked up my spirits. To hear him say that makes me work extra hard.”
Because of NFL rules, Pryor can’t learn anything from his new coaches until the team officially begins practice in late April.
“I can go in and talk to the coaches, but it can’t be about football,” Pryor said. “I knew the coaches are eager to get started, and so am I.
“I’ve been working out with (Raiders teammates) Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford and Taiwan Jones. I’m training hard, and I’m looking at film. It’s good to be in there and have chemistry with my teammates. To see how hard they work, it pushed me to work even harder.”
One of the biggest things Pryor learned during his first season was about the speed of defensive linemen and cornerbacks.
“I wanted to experience the difference between the college and pro levels,” Pryor said.
One coach that Pryor learned a lot from was Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown. He said Brown was always confident and supportive.
The Steelers and Raiders are scheduled to play in Oakland this season. Pryor said he’d love to be the starting quarterback in that game.
“They better hope I’m not playing,” he laughed.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Problem is, he gives my saviour a bad name.
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Who Condo or DMAC?
March 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Bring Back Chris Francis!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:35 am
At TP’s “Pro-day” 15 of the 32 teams didn’t even show up.
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And then Cam Newton and Tebowmania hit the scene.
The same day of TPs pro day, you would have said it would have been foolish to think a team would trade 3 #1s for RGIII.
I think it’s pretty obvious that had Pryor sat out the 6 games and came back and played, he would have been no worse than a high 2nd rd pick.
I base that solely on the other bums that were drafted at least that high if not higher. Kapernicky, for example.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
BSJ,
True that TP can be more mature. I am worried about his intelligence in making reads. Accuracy can be worked on. However, he does have a very strong work ethic so I think we are ok.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:44 am
A strong work ethic my ass.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Has anyone heard anything about Houston moving inside?
Or is that just pure speculation by, us semi’s.
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@DMAC
just speculation. Houston will slide inside when one of two things happen …
#1 Seymour or Kelly gets traded, cut or injured
#2 we get another base DE
Right now Desmond Bryant is the first guy to come off the bench and releive everybody on the D-Line
ShoNasty-Seymour-Kelly-Houston
if somebody gets injured and a starter needs a breather we’re in deep doodoo
73 Jamie Cumbie DT
62 Hall Davis DE
95 Mason Brodine DE
97 Travis Ivey DT
Who ???
March 26th, 2012 at 10:46 am
“I’ve been working out with (Raiders teammates) Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford and Taiwan Jones. I’m training hard, and I’m looking at film. It’s good to be in there and have chemistry with my teammates. To see how hard they work, it pushed me to work even harder.”
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TP!
TP!
TP!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:46 am
And then Cam Newton and Tebowmania hit the scene.
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By the date of his pro-day, Cam was already the consensus #1 pick and Tebow already had almost 10 TD’s his rookie year.
That probably helped TP trickle into the 3rd round.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Same as with DMAC, I would be ecstatic to be wrong about TP.
However, I am rarely wrong. And certainly not here. LOL.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:47 am
methinks you worship Jesus Conan
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Who ???
March 26th, 2012 at 10:47 am
The Bounty scandal gives to the Raiders? Sorry if someone else posted this…
The Raiders would get the 96th pick instead of the 97th pick as the comp pick, because the Saints lost their pick in the 3rd round.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/42126/rookie-olbs-who-could-fit-oakland
March 26th, 2012 at 10:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Has anyone heard anything about Houston moving inside?
Or is that just pure speculation by, us semi’s.
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@DMAC
just speculation. Houston will slide inside when one of two things happen …
#1 Seymour or Kelly gets traded, cut or injured
#2 we get another base DE
Right now Desmond Bryant is the first guy to come off the bench and releive everybody on the D-Line
ShoNasty-Seymour-Kelly-Houston
if somebody gets injured and a starter needs a breather we’re in deep doodoo
73 Jamie Cumbie DT
62 Hall Davis DE
95 Mason Brodine DE
97 Travis Ivey DT
Who ???
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The Bengals have scheduled a meeting with free agent DT Amobi Okoye.
What do you think about this dude?
March 26th, 2012 at 10:48 am
“I’ve been working out with (Raiders teammates) Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford and Taiwan Jones.”
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Based on the company he keeps, I expect TP to spend the 2012 season in a walking boot.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Problem is, he gives my saviour a bad name.
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Who Condo or DMAC?
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LOL @ DMAC!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:50 am
next Monday (04/02) the Raider players can finally get playbooks from Knapp & Tarver!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:52 am
The rest of the offseason will be a “tell” on what the staff and The Reggie think of our QB situation.
If we are rolling with Bomar as the only competition to TP as the #2, than safe to say the staff likes what they see from TP.
Draft a QB or bring in a guy to specifically be the veteran #2, than don’t expect to see TP doing much but the Dougie this season.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Adam Caplan reports that the Bengals have scheduled a free agent meeting with defensive tackle Amobi Okoye.
The visit will take place following this week’s NFL owners meetings.
Okoye, who’s still only 24 years old, tallied four sacks off the bench for the Bears last season. In Cincinnati, he could spell starting “three-technique” tackle Geno Atkins when Atkins needs a breather. The Bengals’ other defensive tackles are Domata Peko, Pat Sims, and Nick Hayden.
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@DMAC
I wouldn’t mind having Amobi Okoye come off the bench and be our 3rd or 4th DT
March 26th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Again, I hope I am wrong.
If TP replaces a struggling Palmer and wins the division (like Tebow last year), Bruce Campbell Beasts out at RT, Aaron Curry puts down the bible and learns how to think on the field, and DVD emerges as a starting CB, that would be some serious egg on your boys face, and I would be pleased as punch.
YOU PEOPLE, need to realize, that EVERY NFL team has somewhere between 10-20% of their roster of guys who will be out of the league in a year or three.
We have guys on our current roster, who suck, and will be out of the league soon. This is how it works. Not hating on players, wishing against them succeeding or anything, it is just dealing with reality.
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agreed, except bible part
March 26th, 2012 at 10:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:50 am
next Monday (04/02) the Raider players can finally get playbooks from Knapp & Tarver!
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Do you really think all teams wait for their playbook?
I don’t.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Q: Looking to add another quarterback behind Palmer, Pryor . .
McKenzie: Kind of the same as like running back for us, make sure you bring a legitimate guy in.
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@ JFB & Raider O
legitimate = veteran?
Pryor & TJones = not legit?
what does this mean ???
March 26th, 2012 at 10:55 am
You know, that is what I like to hear from any qb on our roster…did Russell say any of that?
If he had, BSJ, that is where I would agree strongly with you, as most of us! Until further notice, I am willing to give TP a fair shot as he says he wants!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:55 am
YO! WORD TO THE HIZZLE TO THE FLY MO DEE
First off, politics are for nerds.
Your boy Beeech Diggity Dawg spent the weekend locked down in the penthouse with the Certified Platinum Posse and Rasta Ganja working on our new album!
That’s right, party zeros – we’re taking this smooth island jamnation to the top of the charts!
But first we decided to get high on grass and top shelf margaritas. Our bass player got so wasted he made love all night long to the PARTYDUDE 8000 without lube.
The next day he woke up with a facial tick and Stage 4 hemorrhoids.
Gonna take a man-sized dump now and work on some new lyrics for this friggity fresh idea I had about breaking the 69 endurance record with a team of Spearmint Rhino strippers and select waitresses.
All set over smooth island steel drums wafting over somewhere in the distance.
Stay tuned, blog goobs
FIZZLE UP, GOTTA GET SOME ANTACID RELIEF, WORD
March 26th, 2012 at 10:56 am
536.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:48 am
“I’ve been working out with (Raiders teammates) Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford and Taiwan Jones.”
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Based on the company he keeps, I expect TP to spend the 2012 season in a walking boot.
LMAO!!! Ok, that is a good one!
March 26th, 2012 at 10:57 am
is Hue Jackson gonna get another Rooney Rule HC (see 49ers last year) interview @ Saints before they hire Parcells?
March 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
RRS,
The Reggie is pretty clever, and my uncanny read between the line skills may have met their match.
Not sure what that quote means. Or the one about our LB’s.
March 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
547.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:57 am
is Hue Jackson gonna get another Rooney Rule HC (see 49ers last year) interview @ Saints before they hire Parcells?
Can the Saints do that though?
March 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
why don’t the Saints bring back Ditka?
March 26th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Reg already said they are bringing in another vet QB:
“Kind of the same as like running back for us, make sure you bring a legitimate guy in.”
In other words, TP is not a “legitimate” QB. He’s a Buckeye…
March 26th, 2012 at 10:59 am
550.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
why don’t the Saints bring back Ditka?
because he will be Boba Fett!
March 26th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Dam, I was scooped by a hillrod emigre…
March 26th, 2012 at 11:03 am
RR,
Could mean a lot of things. Could mean we need guys better than Kyle B to compete with TP for the backup position. Could mean that he wants capable/ legit players at every position including depth, or it could mean the Org is not sold on TP.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:05 am
working on our new album!
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Hey Beech,
When you dropping the album?
It’s been 5+ years already.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Reg already said they are bringing in another vet QB
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Pryor will beat out guys like Clemens, Feeley, Delhomme, O’Connell & Batch!
I don’t think former Raiders Boller, Losman & Garcia will be on Reggie’s radar
March 26th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Or it could mean that “legitimate” is the antonym (look it up SDSU grad) to “Buckeye”.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Preppie,
Reggie knows about The Greatness of The Buckeyes (and how they beat that no talent team up north every year). They drafted AJ Hawk in the 1st round.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:10 am
AJ Hawk has been a disappointment too. Same as Carpenter.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Mustafa LLC, have you jumped on the BAC bandwagon yet? Or are you rich enough already?
March 26th, 2012 at 11:14 am
DMAC, my hip hop album Wrecks N Effect is in the final production stages and was scheduled to drop in 2012.
Dem Girls Gettin’ Mo Fly, word
But now I am focusing my attention on my smooth island reggae side project, Rasta Ganja. This new record is going to be straight up silly, word to your willy
Problem is, whenever we try to practice we end up getting high instead. Plus we forget most of the jams from the last practice.
But at least we have plenty of budget left for Olive Garden power lunches
Right now we’re just waiting for the Prep H to kick in on my bass player’s Stage 4 Hemms then we’ll kick out the beats, Mon
March 26th, 2012 at 11:17 am
AJ Hawk has been a disappointment too. Same as Carpenter
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@BSJ
I’d take Hawk & Carpenter over any of our LB’s!!
I’m holding out hope for Aaron Curry, but the rest are trash
March 26th, 2012 at 11:21 am
That’s not much of an endorsement RRS.
Packer fans are almost uniformally down on AJ Hawk though. The only exceptions are the closet Nancyboys who dig his hair.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Raider O Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
You people are proving Aristotle right. He wasnt a fan of Democracy because he thought the avg man doesn’t know enough about politics to make those kind of decisions.
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And that was before the days of electronic media, where the masses are SO easy to misinform. Now the average man is even more dangerous because he actually thinks he knows something. In reality, he’s easily polarized by one issue targeted to appeal to his view (and usually a fringe one from a politics point of view, like gay marriage, spotted owls, or which bible a candidate claims to follow) and then blinded to the bigger picture of what the government actually focuses on.
It’s no coincidence that this breaks out in a sports forum. It’s not that different from a “fan” perspective. Fans of either side become intensely polarized to the point that they can only see the faults in the other party and become oblivious to the faults in their own.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Reggie knows about The Greatness of The Buckeyes (and how they beat that no talent team up north every year).
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Since you brought this up, what is the OSU record against UM in football? You must be WAY up right?
Feel free to post the actual numbers for me, nutmonkey.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Steelers GM Kevin Colbert confirmed Monday that free agent ILB James Farrior won’t be resigning with Pittsburgh.
Farrior was cut in large part due to a $2.825 million salary, but also because his performance has fallen off. “When we terminated those players we felt that their time as a Steeler was over and it was time for everybody to move forward,” said Colbert. “I think when they all left they know that you can never say never. But they also know that was their last time as a Steeler.”
March 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Speaking at Monday’s owners meetings, Colts owner Jim Irsay said the team is still in the “evaluation process” of whom it will select with the No. 1 pick.
It’s been widely assumed since the Colts clinched the top pick that they would be drafting Stanford QB Andrew Luck, but the sensational workouts turned in by Baylor QB Robert Griffin III have made it less of a foregone conclusion. The smart money remains on Luck, but Griffin appears to have a puncher’s chance.
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Does this mean that if RGIII goes to Indy, will Shanny be ok with Luck?
March 26th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Preppie,
No need. I know what it means. Unlike Mich Graduates, I don’t have to use wiki or google for everything.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
What happened to RED’s cheaper camera, Scarlet, that was supposed to kill the pro-consumer market?
March 26th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Preppie,
BAC scares me. High P/E.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
The trend may end preppie. I don’t trust it. Maybe options.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Trend will end…
March 26th, 2012 at 11:48 am
One thing you can never knock TP for is his work ethic. His college coach gushed about it and nobody in Oak has complained about it.
Do we have the strongest armed group of QBs or what? Palmer, TP and Bomar. Al Davis is alive and well in Oak.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
why don’t the Saints bring back Ditka?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ditka doesn’t pay “bounty bucks”…err…incentive pay behind the scenes, covertly…
he pays his players right there on the sidelines!
March 26th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Comp picks should be announced today for Raiders.
Expect us to get the #96th pick at the end of 3rd Round for sure.
Then hopefully we get a pick at end of 4th and end of 5th rounds. If not we should get a pick at end of 5th and 6th rounds.
It’s possible we get two picks at the end of Round 5 also.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Pryor is an X Factor at QB, could be the best there ever is!
March 26th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Breaking_Black Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
What happened to RED’s cheaper camera, Scarlet, that was supposed to kill the pro-consumer market?
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The Red got killed by the GH2 with the hacked software. Not even close of a competition. Even the new 5dM3 lost out in sharpness to that panny per Endgadget this morning. Red Scarlet $10k and GH2 $992. It’s all over youtube and vimeo.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Pryor is an X Factor at QB, could be the best there ever is!
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At his worst, he can be Vince Young with a better attitude and work ethic. Not bad for a 3rd rounder.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Yeah I can definitely appreciate the things I hear about TP’s work ethic. (always with Carson and speaking up in meetings)
Even if he doesn’t turn out to be our future qb, at least he put forth the effort to succeed as a Raider, which is a lot more than we can say about a lot of players that have worn the Silver & Black over the past few years.
March 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
576.RaiderRetribution Says:
March 26th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Pryor is an X Factor at QB, could be the best there ever is!
^^^^^^^^^
Knapp and Saunders just need to utilize Pryor as a weapon and take advantage of his skill set and not just have him sit on his azz on the sideline and be the 2nd or 3rd string QB.
Get the kid out there to run some pistol or spread read zone options and wild cat formations and get him out there and use him as a big TE/WR to jump up and catch passes in the red zone!
March 26th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Comp picks should be announced today for Raiders.
Expect us to get the #96th pick at the end of 3rd Round for sure.
Then hopefully we get a pick at end of 4th and end of 5th rounds. If not we should get a pick at end of 5th and 6th rounds.
It’s possible we get two picks at the end of Round 5 also.
March 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
At the QB position, you need someone to be fearless and works hard. I have always appreciated those things from TP. JC had all the tools except that fearless attitude to put it all together. Jawalrus was fearless but he didnt have the work habit.
March 26th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Yo, getting ready to unveil my new jam called “Stripper 69 Freak Out”, inspired by the size and power of my weiner as I try to set a new 69ing world record.
Fortunately my bass player’s Stage 4 Hemms have subsided considerably. Now homie don’t cry so much when he ties his Pro Keds.
Check this jam, sure to inspire world peace, going green and more critical praise for my weiner’s skillz
Yo, gonna go for the record, where’s Guiness?
Gonna 69 some strippers need an official witness
After 3 days of macking I’ll go down in history
Although my weiner will probably be in a sling, that ain’t no mystery
MO FRESH CUT FRIES, DEM WHOPPER COMIN ATCHU
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