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Allen on `Bountygate,’ Raider defense

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 26th, 2012 at 8:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

An excerpt from Raiders coach Dennis Allen at the NFL meetings on Sirius XM NFL radio discussing his former employer, the Saints, and their penalties for bounties, and the potential of his Oakland defense:

Q: With your former team in the news, and former boss (Sean Payton) and defensive coordinator (Gregg Williams), what light if any can you shed on this and what have been people talking about in terms of bounties and what’s going on with the Saints and the severe penalties they face?

Allen: I think first and foremost, I think we gotta undersand that our job as employees of the NFL is to protect the integrity of the game. I think commissioner Goodell made that clearly obvious when he addressed the whole group this morning. I think that’s been something that’s been critical. Player safety, obviously, is at the forefront of the NFL. In general, I feel badly for everybody that’s been involved with the whole situation. It’s kind of an unfortunate situation, but the commissioner has made it clear that those type of practices are not acceptable and I support his decisions and what he decided to do from a punishment standpoint.

Q: Physical play prevalent in all game plans, who do you address that with your team without crossing the line?

Allen: I think you have to always be forthright with your team and be kind of one step ahead of everything. I think you can play this game in a physical manner without the intent to injure and I think that’s really at the end of the day what the NFL is trying to accomplish.

Q: Talk about personnel that you’re inheriting and how much talent is there, if guys can fit in and can you take advantage of their skills?

Allen: I think we’ve got some key players in place. Obviously, up front, we’ve got a pretty good group of guys up front where we can get after the passer and are still pretty stout against the run up front, from a linebacker standpoint. Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing. Obviously, Aaron Curry, it was good to get him back, we’ve got to find a way to replace Kamerion Wimbley. I think from a secondary standpoint, with Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch, I feel real good about that position. Corner was a position we had to make sure we had to upgrade. I think we did a nice job of that, Shawntae Spencer and obviously Ron Bartell. We’re excited about who we have back there and we’re looking forward to continuing throughout the free agency process and throughout the draft and seeing if we can acaquire some more players.

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347 Responses to “Allen on `Bountygate,’ Raider defense”

  1. SR Raider Says:

    Uno

  2. Sullivan44 Says:

    Zimmerman’s a murderer.

  3. Raider O Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Sully,

    Let me give you an example. An Iraqi woman was killed in El Cajon last week. Her 17 yo daughter found her laying in a pool of blood with a note that said “go back to your home your terrorists). How come this is not national news?
    Btw, her husband works with the US military.
    The media tells people to jump, and they ask how high. That’s my point.

  4. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing.

    ******************************

    Best thing I heard so far this offseason (besided canning Hue).

    If Rolando can emerge as a leader and a very good MLB, it will be bigger than any splashy FA signing we could have made.

  5. SR Raider Says:

    Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing.
    **************

    Translation: this guy looked real good coming out of college and I hope we can make something out of him

  6. KoolKell Says:

    I thought the Iraqi woman, beaten to death with a tire iron, was very sad, and speaks to the kind’s of attitudes, that have root in that group of people, who don’t recognize our connection as human beings.

  7. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Draft DB’s.

    Many of them.

    Bartell + Spencer + DVD + Chekwa = grade A horse crap

  8. papertiger418 Says:

    Way to deflect the first question, DA! Nice to have a savvy coach that isn’t a snakeoil salesman.

  9. papertiger418 Says:

    I’m surprised he didn’t bring up Gio when talking about the secondary. We need to re-sign that guy pronto!

  10. Raider O Says:

    Minorities should be concerned with other/ bigger issues. We should focus on education, keeping our kids out of the prison system, and trying to level/ balance the position of power. We can NOT do that when we are too busy focusing on small hate crimes, and ignoring bigger issues.

  11. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would love nothing more than to send Peyton to the pension collection line, about 10 passes into his Bronco career in the season opener.

    Make Elway and the national media look like complete fools.

    Than Tebow can start and play well in NYJ, and complete fan revolt in Denver.

    One can only dream.

  12. KoolKell Says:

    “Small Hate crimes”. You might be surprised how they add up, and the multiplier effects.

  13. Seymour Bush Says:

    Twocents Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Seymour, it is clear to me what the majority of “Americans” want. Security, an easy life at the expense of others and world domination so that they can get scarce recourses at a bargain price.
    Others have tried that course and they have failed and those that follow that path deserve what they get.
    ==============================================

    Believe it or not, most of what you say I agree with. The differences are you believe the government is the evil player in individual lives, I believe American corporate interests are behind those government policies. You believe in a society with little state intervention, I believe the state has to regulate entities and initiate benefits for the weakest of the society. If we cut back military spending by the state, we could probably have the society we are both looking for. Simple really….

  14. Raider O Says:

    If people wanted to hear about real issues, then the media will be forced to discuss those issue. People watching = more money

  15. KoolKell Says:

    JFB, you could pray to Jesus.

  16. Chris in NY Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    Raider O Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Sully,

    Let me give you an example. An Iraqi woman was killed in El Cajon last week. Her 17 yo daughter found her laying in a pool of blood with a note that said “go back to your home your terrorists). How come this is not national news?
    Btw, her husband works with the US military.
    The media tells people to jump, and they ask how high. That’s my point.

    ——————————-

    Not familiar with the story, but if I had to bet on it I’d bet she was killed by one or more jihadists (particularly given her husband’s connection with the U.S. Military you describe) and it was done just to incite outrage and made to look like a murder by a U.S. soldier.

  17. Sullivan44 Says:

    Raider O,

    What do you not understand about the capability of Americans to be concerned about black on black crime, black education, so forth, and the type of racism Zimmerman displayed all at the same time?

  18. Raider O Says:

    I shouldn’t have said small hate crimes. It was a bad choice of words. I apologies, and I hope I didn’t offend anyone (especially people who suffered such crimes)It wasn’t my intention.

  19. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Never.

    I would rather pray to Rolando McClain.

  20. papertiger418 Says:

    @JFB

    If we’re the ones who end Manning’s career, the NFL is going to have a whole nother reason to stick it to the team.

    Not saying I wouldn’t love to see it happen, but the consequences bear consideration. We got a clean slate with the regime change; I want to keep it that way for now.

  21. Sullivan44 Says:

    Anyone think S. Peyton will actually serve his entire suspension? I think he appeals and it’s lifted midway into the season.

  22. Seymour Bush Says:

    Corner was a position we had to make sure we had to upgrade.
    ========================================

    Translation: Routt and Chris Johnson? You had to be kidding.

  23. hwnrdr Says:

    I want to have something that Allen is on right now…I respect his enthusiasm, but stout against the run? Where?

  24. Raider O Says:

    Chris,

    It’s a possibility. Btw, They were musl!ms.

  25. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Anyone think S. Peyton will actually serve his entire suspension? I think he appeals and it’s lifted midway into the season.
    ===================================

    The reason the suspensions were so harsh was Williams and Payton kept denying there was any type of “bounty System” or that they were at all involved. Until NFL films showed some locker room clips of Payton and Williams paying the bounties and dancing about it. That’s what pissed Goddell off.

  26. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I hope the Saints go 6-8, and than Goodell can reinstate Peyton for the last two games, just to humiliate him.

  27. Seymour Bush Says:

    Allen: I think we’ve got some key players in place. Obviously, up front, we’ve got a pretty good group of guys up front where we can get after the passer and are still pretty stout against the run up front, from a linebacker standpoint. Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing. Obviously, Aaron Curry, it was good to get him back, we’ve got to find a way to replace Kamerion Wimbley. I think from a secondary standpoint, with Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch, I feel real good about that position.
    =======================================

    Translation: What the fook are our linebackers DOING out there??? They certainly aren’t tackling anyone.

  28. Chris in NY Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    Anyone think S. Peyton will actually serve his entire suspension? I think he appeals and it’s lifted midway into the season.

    ——————————

    I think he’ll serve it out. Commish is PO’d about them lying and has been trying to craft his legacy around player safety issues from the beginning. No way he goes soft on this.

  29. papertiger418 Says:

    Yeah, I think that interest has been tacked onto the suspension. No way Goodell shows mercy after being jerked around like that.

  30. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    You give people too much credit. GWB was elected twice!

  31. morilla Says:

    Chris In NY Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    Raider O Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    Raider O Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Sully,

    Let me give you an example. An Iraqi woman was killed in El Cajon last week. Her 17 yo daughter found her laying in a pool of blood with a note that said “go back to your home your terrorists). How come this is not national news?
    Btw, her husband works with the US military.
    The media tells people to jump, and they ask how high. That’s my point.

    ——————————-

    Not familiar with the story, but if I had to bet on it I’d bet she was killed by one or more jihadists (particularly given her husband’s connection with the U.S. Military you describe) and it was done just to incite outrage and made to look like a murder by a U.S. soldier.
    ———–

    El Cajon is here in San Diego.

  32. Sullivan44 Says:

    lol. You guys really think Goodell didn’t know about bounties all along? I think he’s just putting on a good front of cracking down. Soon as the story settles down, they’ll start looking at an earlier date to bring Peyton back. Maybe Williams might stay banned. Why no investigation of other teams? Because Goodell knows it’s league wide, and it would be an epic scandal. This was all just a quick patch up to put it to rest.

  33. Seymour Bush Says:

    Obviously, Aaron Curry, it was good to get him back, we’ve got to find a way to replace Kamerion Wimbley.
    ========================================

    Ronnel Lewis OLB Oklahoma. There’s you answer.

  34. Chris in NY Says:

    and dancing about it. That’s what pissed Goddell off.

    26.Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
    I hope the Saints go 6-8, and than Goodell can reinstate Peyton for the last two games, just to humiliate him.

    ————————–

    Peyton would probably be thrilled if the Saints started 6-8. If they go 12-4 this year, it diminishes what he means to the team.

  35. SR Raider Says:

    “Goodell: Bounty probe not over” – CBS Sports

  36. hendu Says:

    21, its Sean Payton, not Peyton.You will never learn!lol

  37. Tjbwall Says:

    Ronnel Lewis OLB Oklahoma. There’s you answer.
    ========================================
    That would be lovely, but not likely happenin my brutha

  38. DKnight007 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Sully,

    Let me give you an example. An Iraqi woman was killed in El Cajon last week. Her 17 yo daughter found her laying in a pool of blood with a note that said “go back to your home your terrorists). How come this is not national news?
    Btw, her husband works with the US military.
    The media tells people to jump, and they ask how high. That’s my point.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Wow. Unbelievable.

    Your right about the media. It’s about manipulating the weak minded.

    I mean look the Tebow crap today?? All of that circus for a backup QB?

    Oy vey….the world we live is warped.

    Loved seeing that no talent overexposed trash Kardashian get flour dumped on her azz! Classic!

  39. Sullivan44 Says:

    Just like when police say “ongoing investigation”. Sure.

  40. Tjbwall Says:

    ALLEN:
    Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing
    =================================================
    Kid was the youngest player on the D last yr
    still 22 yrs old
    Dennis allen/Tarver work your magic

  41. Seymour Bush Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Ronnel Lewis OLB Oklahoma. There’s you answer.
    ========================================
    That would be lovely, but not likely happenin my brutha
    =========================================

    I have him slated as a mid third rounder, and I am hoping he falls off the board to us.

  42. Sullivan44 Says:

    Who follows Kardashian on twitter? I do! I do! Yesterday she tweeted that she handles pressure very well. lol. What pressure? Whether she’s going to take the Porsche or the Lambo? Or did she mean she handled Ray Jay’s pressure well? (adjusting my tie like Letterman)

  43. Raider O Says:

    Loved seeing that no talent overexposed trash Kardashian get flour dumped on her azz! Classic!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Please don’t get me started. Font forget Jersey Shore. 6 or 7 seasons?!.

  44. Sullivan44 Says:

    El Cajon is where Southern California meets Mississippi. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see a minority kid get Trayvoned there some day soon.

  45. Raider O Says:

    Don’t*….

  46. Seymour Bush Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    ALLEN:
    Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing
    =================================================
    Kid was the youngest player on the D last yr
    still 22 yrs old
    Dennis allen/Tarver work your magic
    =======================================

    The problem with McClain is offensive coordinators are just flat out schooling him. He is always taking the wrong gap, taking the wrong guy, waiting, taking the blow, not delivering the blow. Hopefully, the light goes on this year, and he can just go out there and play.

  47. Raider O Says:

    March 26th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    El Cajon is where Southern California meets Mississippi. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see a minority kid get Trayvoned there some day soon.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    You should google it. It happened already.

  48. DKnight007 Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Tjbwall Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Ronnel Lewis OLB Oklahoma. There’s you answer.
    ========================================
    That would be lovely, but not likely happenin my brutha
    =========================================

    I have him slated as a mid third rounder, and I am hoping he falls off the board to us.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Would be nice if Lewis fell to us at the end of 3rd Round….but I highly doubt it.

  49. papertiger418 Says:

    Anybody else think we should restructure Lechler’s contract to free up more cap room? It’s not like the guy is going anywhere anytime soon.

  50. morilla Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    El Cajon is where Southern California meets Mississippi. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see a minority kid get Trayvoned there some day soon.
    ————

    I’m sure it’s already happened.

  51. Tjbwall Says:

    I have him slated as a mid third rounder, and I am hoping he falls off the board to us.
    ================================================
    Ouch THE Ronnell Lewis mid 3rd, sorry to say, but that’d be a miracle after the way he preformed in the combine. You say mid 3 I’ve got him going mid to low 2

  52. DKnight007 Says:

    I used to live in SD. Go Aztecs!

    El Cajon is a dirt bag town. Full of meth labs, meth addicted tweakers and nasty hookers.

  53. Raider O Says:

    Go AZTECS!!!!!!

  54. DJ Johnny Says:

    Multiple eyewitness reports state that Trayvon was seen beating on Zimmerman. Zimmmerman has the scars to prove it.

    What causes the attack on Zimmerman from Trayvon? It is debatable and we will probaly never know the whole truth to the story in it’s enitrety.

    Just cuz the kid has skittles and iced tea instead of needles and a crack pipe in his pocket somehow exonerate him of any wrong doing…and prove what an innocent little boy he was. “Look…Skittles. He couldn’t of done anything wrong”.

    Everybody so quick to jump on a chance to play the race card and have a reason to riot and be pizzed off before they even know any of the facts of the story.

  55. Tjbwall Says:

    Probably just as much a chance @ Ronnell Lewis as Alameda Ta’amu or Bobby Wagner though…crazier things have happened

  56. Seymour Bush Says:

    papertiger418 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Anybody else think we should restructure Lechler’s contract to free up more cap room? It’s not like the guy is going anywhere anytime soon.
    ======================================

    Yes. I don’t mind paying Lechler but $3.8mm a year is a bit excessive.

  57. Raider O Says:

    DK,

    They tried to fix El Cajon by spending some money on down town EC. It’s looks much better now (Main St).

  58. Seymour Bush Says:

    Would be nice if Lewis fell to us at the end of 3rd Round….but I highly doubt it.
    =======================================

    Lewis is a project. He played 8 man ball in high school, and had some problems at the end of the year academically. His stock could easily fall.

  59. qodrn1 Says:

    Football news is sure slow right now…….

  60. Seymour Bush Says:

    The guy I really like is Brandon Thompson DT from Clemson. I also have him as a 3rd rounder, but HIGHLY doubt we will get any shot at him.

  61. RaiderDuck Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
    papertiger418 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Anybody else think we should restructure Lechler’s contract to free up more cap room? It’s not like the guy is going anywhere anytime soon.
    ======================================

    Yes. I don’t mind paying Lechler but $3.8mm a year is a bit excessive.

    ===========================================

    He’s in the final year of his deal. IF NECESSARY, we could restructure. Don’t know that we’ll have to, though. Reggie’s sounding an awful lot like someone who’s mostly done with FA, and is concentrating on the draft now.

  62. Seymour Bush Says:

    qodrn1 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Football news is sure slow right now…….
    =========================================

    Just flip on the Teblow Channel. That guy is always doing something…

  63. Seymour Bush Says:

    Michael Egnew TE from Missouri?

  64. KoolKell Says:

    Oh yeah, Djhonny, Trayvon stalked Zimmerman with a bag of skittles. Otherwise, he did nothing wrong.

  65. Sullivan44 Says:

    I pulled into El Cajon a few years back when my car was overheating. Went to a Kragen right there on the main drag, El Cajon blvd? Main? Anyhow, I sat there in my car to wait for the engine to cool, and my goodness were there some interesting characters walking down that street.

  66. Sullivan44 Says:

    Johnny,

    Zimmerman is told by the 911 dispatch not to pursue Martin. After that, he has left his car for some reason and a struggle ensues with Martin, where at some point Zimmerman shoots him. Zimmerman’s going to have a tough tie with the self defense strategy. Self defense is when you’re avoiding a confrontation, not seeking it.

  67. Sullivan44 Says:

    Zimmerman “was” told.

  68. Tjbwall Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    Michael Egnew TE from Missouri?
    ==================================
    I like Egnew, but don’t we ave bigger problems?
    You low on Ausberry & Gordon?

  69. Seymour Bush Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Probably just as much a chance @ Ronnell Lewis as Alameda Ta’amu or Bobby Wagner though…crazier things have happened
    =========================================

    I have Wagner going in the top of the 2nd round.

  70. hwnrdr Says:

    So… because he was beaten, when was that ever a right to shoot and kill anyone? I agree about the race card thing but…

  71. Seymour Bush Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    Michael Egnew TE from Missouri?
    ==================================
    I like Egnew, but don’t we ave bigger problems?
    You low on Ausberry & Gordon?
    ======================================

    Actually I like both Ausberry and Gordon and Brandon Myers. I just have Egnew as one of the best players available at the end of the 3rd.

  72. Raider O Says:

    LMAO RMR.
    El Cajon BLV turns into Main st. I used to work there. You are absolutely right.
    Still LMAO.

  73. Sullivan44 Says:

    You can’t claim self defense when you start the fight.

    Zimmerman calls 911. 911 tells him to let the police handle it. Zimmerman approaches Martin anyway (tough guy syndrome, hero). Zimmerman gets his ass kicked. Then Zimmerman shoots Martin. That is not self defense. That’s a man first attempting to physically attack another person, a kid, for this matter, failing, and then using a gun the second time. I don’t care what fancy cuts he probably gave himself after he got home that night, that 911 call destroys his self defense claim.

  74. joker94583 Says:

    Allen is a politician! Speaks many words yet says virtually nothing.

  75. DJ Johnny Says:

    64.KoolKell Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
    Oh yeah, Djhonny, Trayvon stalked Zimmerman with a bag of skittles. Otherwise, he did nothing wrong.

    Hey. Now you’re playing the skittles card. What I meant was the “media” made it a point to say that all he had in his pockets were skittles and a can of iced tea, as if that shows without a doubt he could not have don anything to provoke the attack from Zimmerman. According to many EYEWITNESS reports…not having weapons on himself did not stop Trayvon from beating on Zimmerman. But seriously, Jesse Jackson is speaking before a rally of people holding up “I am Trayvon” placards and protesting and demanding “justice” before the facts of the case are even known. That’s what I don’t like about this.

    Some people want this so badly to be a hate crime and for Trayvon to be an innocent “victim” when the reports we’re hearing suggest otherwise.

    Maybe he is/was…let’s wait and see before people start marching and protesting.

  76. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    I watched a guy in a wheelchair stab a prostitute, and I was chased by a prostitute once for telling her to get off the lot.
    I also gave them balloons for flashing.
    The good ol’ days.

  77. alzadoX Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
    Draft DB’s.

    Many of them.

    Bartell + Spencer + DVD + Chekwa = grade A horse crap

    **********

    if healthy, Bartell is one of the better CBs in NFL, one of most underrated, pushing for Pro Bowl consideration…until he broke his neck. If he’s healthy and hasn’t lost his aggression, we have a good one. Bartell is a big corner and could be matched up with big receivers

    Spencer, we’ll have to see how much he has left

    Chekwa did okay between numerous injuries as rookie, had shoulder surgery

    DVD silky smooth fast and can cover but ? competitiveness and not physical.

    Pat Lee signing “in progress” ,

    Underwood, Lambert, McCann

    expecting to add another and have a good competition in camp; hopefully coach em up well, hopefully new defensive coordinator can coordinate. We should be better than 2011 here, hopefully much better

  78. Sullivan44 Says:

    Did stop by a pretty good Taqueria on my way back to I-8, though.

  79. Tjbwall Says:

    Actually I like both Ausberry and Gordon and Brandon Myers. I just have Egnew as one of the best players available at the end of the 3rd.
    ==========================================
    True
    Casey Hayward Db
    Jonathon Massaquoi Olb/De
    Nigel Bradham

    other possible “slippers”

  80. Sullivan44 Says:

    Zimmerman would be better off had he never called 911 in the first place. No witnesses, his story against basically nobody’s. That 911 call cooks his goose. It proves him to be the aggressor.

  81. Seymour Bush Says:

    What do you think of George Iloka Boise State DB?

  82. Sullivan44 Says:

    O, you worked at that Kragen? The guys who worked there were a holes, I know that. They were actually telling me I had to leave when I was waiting for my car to cool, that there was no loitering. My motor was in the freakin’ red. And I was going to add radiator fluid they sold me. Since when did Kragen not let you do that? lol.

  83. Seymour Bush Says:

    I have Massaquoi going right around the same time as Shawn Spence: in the mid third. Both are possibilities to fall into the top of the 4th.

  84. Tjbwall Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    What do you think of George Iloka Boise State DB?
    ========================================
    NO hips

  85. Seymour Bush Says:

    Brandham I have much further down the board. At that point Tank Carder from TCU or Shaun Prater the corner from Iowa jump out at me.

  86. Tjbwall Says:

    Sorry i’m a Kentucky native, but what do you think of Danny Trevathan?

    Miles Burris & David Molk?

  87. Gdog Says:

    Politics politics politics… despite hundreds of pleas for it to stop.

    There are a thousand POLITICAL blogs to argue politics.

    Why is it here??

    Mob rules??

    NBA garbage is at least SPORTS… am I the only one sick of skipping over ten garbage posts to see one about Raider football??

    This should be self-policed.

  88. Seymour Bush Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    What do you think of George Iloka Boise State DB?
    ========================================
    NO hips
    ===================================

    Iloka is a BIG DB. He played well Senior week, and tho he isn’t clocked as fast, he shows really good instincts. I like him as a BIG safety.

  89. KoolKell Says:

    Playing the “skittles card” Boy, you people.

  90. Sullivan44 Says:

    lol. Nobody’s even discussing politics.

  91. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    I used to sell cars in that area. I used to work for a dealership.

  92. alzadoX Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    I want to have something that Allen is on right now…I respect his enthusiasm, but stout against the run? Where?

    ************

    with the right coaching hopefully he’s right. I think he was referring to the DLine (not clear, maybe LB too). I checked out what Allen did in his one season as Def Coordinator in Denver last year, and it’s pretty impressive. Dumervil + a lot of nobodies on DL to play well, with Broderick Bunkley having a career year. It seems like we have a lot of good individual talents but a lot of them are fairly similar (Kelly, Seymour, Houston, & Bryant) and best positions 3-T under tackle/ penetrator, LDE, or 3-4 DE. RDE Sho’Nasty if he’s okay after shoulder surgery is excellent. Interesting that Reggie Mac interview and Allen interview they don’t talk about adding a NT or run stuffing DT. In the 4-3 hybrid they played in Denver last year Bunkley usually lined up on center’s nose. He is 6-2 and anchors strong but played on the move a lot, not a space eater type pure 2 gap guy. Of course, we don’t have anyone like that now. Raiders allegedly high on 1st year player Travis Ivey only NT on roster (practice squad 2011), 1 career NFL game.

    A different scheme, different coaching, a few additions hopefully can create a much better result

  93. papertiger418 Says:

    Yeah, I think the political storm has passed mostly…thank God.

    Anyway, what are we going to do about a RB? DMAC and Taiwan aren’t nearly enough.

  94. Gdog Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    lol. Nobody’s even discussing politics.
    >>>>

    Ha… whadever… show me the posts you have talked about Raider football in this notestream.

    Or any.

    Surprised anyone lets you post here…

  95. Seymour Bush Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Sorry i’m a Kentucky native, but what do you think of Danny Trevathan?
    =====================================

    Trevathan is a really good prospect. Not that big, but they guy can flat out play. I don’t even have him on my board. Shows you what I know. The other guys I don’t know.

  96. Sullivan44 Says:

    Right on, O. I still like the SD area overall. Visit whenever I get a chance. Can’t beat the weather. And the women at the beaches aren’t looking any worse.

  97. Sullivan44 Says:

    Gdog, nobody’s discussing politics. The Trayvon Martin murder? Yes. But that’s not politics. It’s a major national story.

  98. Sullivan44 Says:

    A lot of homeless people around SD’s beaches anymore, I’ve noticed that. That’s a sign of the times, though.

  99. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s March, G Dog. It’s not like training camp breaks next week. Draft isn’t even for another month. Take a chill pill.

  100. KoolKell Says:

    You can discuss Ho’s, Bulldaggers, and Coksukers, all day in here. Nobody say’s a word about it.

  101. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    Let me know next time you visit SD. We can talk politics for hours. Good food and smoke on me.

  102. DJ Johnny Says:

    89.KoolKell Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
    Playing the “skittles card” Boy, you people.

    I was kidding. Geez.

  103. Tjbwall Says:

    =====================================

    Trevathan is a really good prospect. Not that big, but they guy can flat out play. I don’t even have him on my board. Shows you what I know. The other guys I don’t know.
    ============================================
    Haha he’d be a good guy to snatch with our 6 imo
    David molk(C)i got him going in the 4 or 5 he could start(good zone blocker)
    Miles Burris solid production @ olb for utah state

    I also like Frank Alexander olb/de as a sit pass rusher
    Ganaway hope he falls right in our lap

  104. Gdog Says:

    Sullivan has now made 14 of 94 posts to this notestream. 2 were football related. ZERO Raiders related.

    I will let the readers decide…

  105. KoolKell Says:

    Grog, do you have any Raider breaking news?

  106. Gdog Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    It’s March, G Dog. It’s not like training camp breaks next week. Draft isn’t even for another month. Take a chill pill.
    >>>>

    Alright.

    You rule this roost!

    Knock yourselves out DOOODS!!!

  107. Gdog Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Grog, do you have any Raider breaking news?
    >>>>

    Nope… so I don’t talk about garbage non-related to Raiders.

    But knock yourselves out!!

    You guys deserve each other!!

  108. Gdog Says:

    See ya….. This blog should be self-policing is my only point.

    You children prefer that is not…

    Peace.

  109. KoolKell Says:

    Shall we speculate about who the Raiders will get at #95?

  110. DJ Johnny Says:

    109.KoolKell Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    Shall we speculate about who the Raiders will get at #95?

    RG III

  111. papertiger418 Says:

    I think we should continue to discuss how refreshing it is to have the beginnings of a functional front office. No offense to Al Davis, but the last decade has been pretty rough, and I’m grateful for a change of pace.

    Also, it’s going to be fun watching the Chargers crash and burn this year.

  112. Tjbwall Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    Shall we speculate about who the Raiders will get at #95?
    =============================================
    We’ll id like to see Alameda Ta’amu in Alameda

  113. DJ Johnny Says:

    “With the 95th pick in the NFL Draft the Raiders pick Britney Griner from Baylor”.

    He may play basketball but this dude would be a stud on special teams.

  114. papertiger418 Says:

    Also, it deserves to be pointed out how lucky we are that the NFL just went after the top coaches in the bounty scandal. Having to deal with DA being suspended or fined would have fit in perfectly with our bad luck over the past few years

  115. KoolKell Says:

    Looks like Reggie is helping our image in the NFL circles.

  116. DJ Johnny Says:

    Maybe the league is finally coming around to the idea that a successful Raider franchise is actually good for the NFL.

  117. KoolKell Says:

    Maybe, we’ll get the benefit of the doubt, in some of the “close calls”

  118. papertiger418 Says:

    Indeed. That’s another advantage we get as a result of the regime change; having a GM who came from one of the league’s darling teams, Green Bay. We get more credibility by virtue of association.

    I think this was also a factor in us not getting docked cap room by the NFL for off-loading salary in an uncapped year. I know we weren’t given extra room along with the Saints, but if Al had still been alive, I imagine we would have incurred a heftier fine on our cap.

    Life in the post-AD era, right?

  119. DJ Johnny Says:

    I wonder if a winning Raider org. is more likely to leave Oakland, or less likely?

  120. KoolKell Says:

    Who came first, the chIcken or the egg?

  121. DJ Johnny Says:

    To be or not to be? THAT is the question.

  122. alzadoX Says:

    This is an important article / subject. First time Dennis Allen said what he thinks of Raiders defensive personnel, and shows he can evade questions on scandal. Still would like to know what kind of defensive schemes they’re gonna put in, beyond basic set of 4-3 or 3-4. Did he say anything about that Jerry. Thanks for article.

    But these people posting just ignore the Raider news and talk about the important things happening in society. They must be in the wrong place

  123. papertiger418 Says:

    I hope they don’t go anywhere. The city needs to keep the A’s and the Raiders in town. The only good news we have in that regard is no news–yet. None of the national sites are speculating on whether we’re headed to LA; it’s all Vikings, Jags, Rams, and Chargers.

  124. DJ Johnny Says:

    One thing about the interview is that it’s extremely brief.

    There had to be more to it right?

    That “transcript” probably lasted less than a minute.

    I’d like to hear more.

  125. Sullivan44 Says:

    Something tells me G dog just doesn’t like the outcome of the “political” discussion.

  126. KoolKell Says:

    I heard they signed an extension.,at the Coliseum. I think LA was Al’s idea. thye’re tied to Oakland

  127. papertiger418 Says:

    As to whether we should discuss the ills of society on a football blog, I would only say this: minor digressions are okay, but we need to stay on point. I’m a Raider fan, and while I’ve been lurking for a while, I’d like to come here and talk about Raiders news. At the very least we should make fun of the Chargers or something.

  128. ron69 Says:

    It’s mock time
    Plan A
    3.-Robert Turbin RB
    4.-Jack Crawford DE
    5.-Daris Fleming OLB
    5.-Marcus Forston DT
    6.-Bob Hebert C

    Plan B
    3.-David Molk C
    4.-Vick Vallard RB
    5.-Justin Francis DE
    5.-Terrel Manning OLB
    6.-Domimique Hamilton DT

  129. Sullivan44 Says:

    God damn. I’m ashamed of this country right now.

    http://newsone.com/nation/kirstensavali/nola-cop-trayvon-lived-like-a-thug-and-he-died-like-one/

  130. luvmarvhub Says:

    From Inductivist blog, post of March 25, 2012

    http://inductivist.blogspot.com/

    “The Trayvon Martin case is an opportunity to remind people of the reality of interracial crime in the United States.

    “For the purposes of this analysis, I’ll use the term ‘whites’ to refer to whites plus Hispanics since they get lumped together in the data. According to FBI data for 2010, 218 blacks were murdered by whites. Blacks murdered 447 whites. But this is comparing apple and oranges since whites are 6.4 times the size of the black population. If we calculate murders per 10 million in the race-specific population (interracial murder is rare), the rate is 8.82 for whites and 114.89 for blacks. So blacks kill whites at a rate 13 times higher than that of whites killing blacks.

    “Another way to look at it is multiply the black population by 6.4 to make it as large as whites. If it were as large, 2861 whites would have been murdered compared to the 218 blacks killed by whites.”

    The 13 year old white kid doused in gasoline, then set afire by the two black teens just this month? Pretty much buried in the back pages of the Midwestern newspapers and not even reported out here until the Trayvon Martin incident hit the fan. It was a hate crime with the boys telling the victim he was getting what he deserved “white boy.” Sounds like a copycat crime–couple of years ago same thing happened to another white kid set afire by black thugs. Same media coverage–little, all on back pages–just doesn’t fit the meme the liberal press wants to push. Stories like that make Matt Lauer nervous because he’d have to talk about black crime stats in general. The worst data, of course, is black on black crime, with decent black folks trying to move out of horrid violent places, and the violence following them. Dysfunction in the black community is horrid. We all pay a price.

  131. papertiger418 Says:

    Man, if we could get Turbin that would be so sweet. Bay Area product. Would hopefully work out better than Morrison.

  132. KoolKell Says:

    Wow. No, those “small hate crimes” add up.

  133. KoolKell Says:

    #130, I abhor that hate crime against that kid. We have to stop it.

  134. Sullivan44 Says:

    There is a difference between teens attacking another teen and an adult attacking a teen. Nothing excuses what Zimmerman did.

  135. KoolKell Says:

    One thing about Al Davis, he didn’t care what color you were.

  136. Sullivan44 Says:

    In his latter years Al didn’t care about winning, either. I kid.

  137. YoungAmerican Says:

    3rd (compensatory) – LB Sean Spence, Miami
    4th (compensatory) – FS Janzen Jackson, McNeese State
    5th – RB Terrance Ganaway, Baylor
    5th (compensatory) – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
    6th – OL Matt Reynolds, BYU

  138. YoungAmerican Says:

    3rd (compensatory) – DE/OLB Jake Bequette, Arkansas
    4th (compensatory) – NT Damon Harrison, William Penn
    5th – RB Terrance Ganaway, Baylor
    5th (compensatory) – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
    6th – DB Robert Blanton, Notre Dame

  139. KoolKell Says:

    1968, he drafted Eldridge Dickey in the 1st round. Kenny Stabler in the 2nd.

  140. KoolKell Says:

    Did that Hicks. Kid, come from Re- gena, or from Re-Gina?

  141. DKnight007 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    DK,

    They tried to fix El Cajon by spending some money on down town EC. It’s looks much better now (Main St)

    ^^^^^^^
    They have been working on main st for years. Still a trashy, drugged up town.

  142. KoolKell Says:

    Re-jina? Lol. time to go to bed.

  143. DKnight007 Says:

    # YoungAmerican Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    3rd (compensatory) – LB Sean Spence, Miami
    4th (compensatory) – FS Janzen Jackson, McNeese State
    5th – RB Terrance Ganaway, Baylor
    5th (compensatory) – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
    6th – OL Matt Reynolds, BYU

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hicks is an intriguing prospect.

  144. Hardline Says:

    In Los Angeles County from Jan. 1, 2007 to March 25, 2012 there were nearly 3897 murders with 50% of the total murdered being Latino and 32% being of the total murdered being black. 12% of those murdered were whites, and roughly 4% were Asian.

    These homicide statistics show that Latins mostly murdered other Latins, and Blacks mostly murdered other Blacks. In some instances Blacks murdered Latins and Latins murdered Blacks.

    The task is to bring down Black on Black, and Latino on Latino murders as those two ethnicities are slaughtering themselves at an alarming rate.

    The Trayvon Martin murder, which in my opinion was not justified on any self-defense theory, has been blown up by the media. Hate crimes come in many varieties and normally won’t be delegated to Blacks who murder Whites. I suppose that is just politics and political correctness.

    The following are actual murder statistics, County of Los Angeles broken down by ethnicity and number:

    By race or ethnicity
    Latino
    2,009
    (2,009)
    Black
    1,253
    (1,253)
    White
    469
    (469)
    Asian
    126
    (126)

    Blunt force
    233
    (233)
    Gunshot
    2,978
    (2,978)
    Other
    179
    (179)
    Stabbing
    405
    (405)
    Strangled
    41
    (41)
    Unspecified
    91
    (91)

  145. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Luvmarvhub Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
    From Inductivist blog, post of March 25, 2012

    http://inductivist.blogspot.com/

    “The Trayvon Martin case is an opportunity to remind people of the reality of interracial crime in the United States.

    “For the purposes of this analysis, I’ll use the term ‘whites’ to refer to whites plus Hispanics since they get lumped together in the data. According to FBI data for 2010, 218 blacks were murdered by whites. Blacks murdered 447 whites. But this is comparing apple and oranges since whites are 6.4 times the size of the black population. If we calculate murders per 10 million in the race-specific population (interracial murder is rare), the rate is 8.82 for whites and 114.89 for blacks. So blacks kill whites at a rate 13 times higher than that of whites killing blacks.

    “Another way to look at it is multiply the black population by 6.4 to make it as large as whites. If it were as large, 2861 whites would have been murdered compared to the 218 blacks killed by whites.”

    The 13 year old white kid doused in gasoline, then set afire by the two black teens just this month? Pretty much buried in the back pages of the Midwestern newspapers and not even reported out here until the Trayvon Martin incident hit the fan. It was a hate crime with the boys telling the victim he was getting what he deserved “white boy.” Sounds like a copycat crime–couple of years ago same thing happened to another white kid set afire by black thugs. Same media coverage–little, all on back pages–just doesn’t fit the meme the liberal press wants to push. Stories like that make Matt Lauer nervous because he’d have to talk about black crime stats in general. The worst data, of course, is black on black crime, with decent black folks trying to move out of horrid violent places, and the violence following them. Dysfunction in the black community is horrid. We all pay a price.

    #####################################

    Wow, now there’s some truth for ya. Blacks kill whites at a rate 13 times the rate of whites killing blacks, eh?

  146. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    So much for the misinformation and propaganda spewed in here by sock puppet army and trusty sidekick the other day. Blacks never kill whites, eh? It’s never reported, morons. Nothing sexy about that. Media is all about money.

  147. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    And to answer the question posed on the sign carried by one of the protesters/marchers that read “Today Trayvon, who tomorrow?”…

    the answer to that apparently is Ted, then Mike the next day, a random 13 year old white kid the day after that, John, Alex, Enrique, Mitchell, Billy, Gary, Juan, Billy, Bobby, Lee, THEN another Trayvon…on the 14th day.

    Don’t worry lady, you’ll go through 13 white people with no fanfare before we hit another Trayvon.

    Too bad no marches are planned for the 13 year old barbarically set ablaze.

  148. Sullivan44 Says:

    Most black on white murders are not racially motivated. They’re common crimes, typically where money is the motivation. Most I believe are robberies. Most white on black murders, however, like Zimmerman’s murder of Martin, are racially motivated.

  149. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ghost of Al, same media is hardly reporting on Zimmerman’s criminal past, which includes assaulting a cop. There’s as much evidence of a media bias against Martin as there is of Zimmerman.

  150. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ghost of Al writes,

    “before we hit another Trayvon”

    Says it all.

    Like I said, even Zimmerman’s supporters know he’s guilty.

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  152. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Says you, the expert on such things right? You were in here just the other day claiming that blacks never kill whites. Then it went to “well, just a few times” and now it’s “well, yes they do it at a much greater clip but it’s not racial”

    LMAO! Call it what you want to make yourself feel better. Racially motivated or not, the numbers speak for themselves.

  153. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Zimmerman is guilty as all heck, based on what I know. You’ll never hear me deny it. What I’m disputing is your ridculous garbage about it not going the other way.

  154. Allen on `Bountygate,’ Raider defense Says:

    Allen on `Bountygate,’ Raider defense

    By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
    Monday, March 26th, 2012 at 8:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

    An excerpt from Raiders coach Dennis Allen at the NFL meetings on Sirius XM NFL radio discussing his former employer, the Saints, and their penalties for bounties, and the potential of his Oakland defense:

    Q: With your former team in the news, and former boss (Sean Payton) and defensive coordinator (Gregg Williams), what light if any can you shed on this and what have been people talking about in terms of bounties and what’s going on with the Saints and the severe penalties they face?

    Allen: I think first and foremost, I think we gotta undersand that our job as employees of the NFL is to protect the integrity of the game. I think commissioner Goodell made that clearly obvious when he addressed the whole group this morning. I think that’s been something that’s been critical. Player safety, obviously, is at the forefront of the NFL. In general, I feel badly for everybody that’s been involved with the whole situation. It’s kind of an unfortunate situation, but the commissioner has made it clear that those type of practices are not acceptable and I support his decisions and what he decided to do from a punishment standpoint.

    Q: Physical play prevalent in all game plans, who do you address that with your team without crossing the line?

    Allen: I think you have to always be forthright with your team and be kind of one step ahead of everything. I think you can play this game in a physical manner without the intent to injure and I think that’s really at the end of the day what the NFL is trying to accomplish.

    Q: Talk about personnel that you’re inheriting and how much talent is there, if guys can fit in and can you take advantage of their skills?

    Allen: I think we’ve got some key players in place. Obviously, up front, we’ve got a pretty good group of guys up front where we can get after the passer and are still pretty stout against the run up front, from a linebacker standpoint. Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing. Obviously, Aaron Curry, it was good to get him back, we’ve got to find a way to replace Kamerion Wimbley. I think from a secondary standpoint, with Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch, I feel real good about that position. Corner was a position we had to make sure we had to upgrade. I think we did a nice job of that, Shawntae Spencer and obviously Ron Bartell. We’re excited about who we have back there and we’re looking forward to continuing throughout the free agency process and throughout the draft and seeing if we can acaquire some more players.

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/03/26/allen-on-bountygate-raider-defense/

    :mrgreen:

  155. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Zimmerman’s supporters…LOL. You’re one funny sock puppet.

  156. Allen on `Bountygate,’ Raider defense Says:

    :mrgreen:

  157. Sullivan44 Says:

    The numbers demonstrate that most black on white crime is monetarily motivated. Most black on white crimes are robberies. What is a robbery, Ghost of Al? What’s the desired result? Racial dominance, or money, mostly for drugs?

    On the other hand, most white on black crime is racially motivated, like the “hit” on another black kid that you promised will happen.

  158. Diddly On Crouton Says:

    ReggieMac and Allen mean fckng business. No more same ol same ol. Raiders be smokin hot. So hot they could burn the back side of a cats ass a hundred yards away.

  159. 910Raider Says:

    test

  160. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Hardly reporting. LOL. They’re reporting it, aren’t they? It’s come to light. Fact is they’re fanning racial flames all across this country and not reporting it when it goes in reverse. Nothing good will come of this. It could result in retaliation type violence and all caused by the media’s greed.

    You won’t change the bigoted white population’s views of such things and it will only spark anger from the black community against whites, including areas where there isn’t even a racial problem, against innocent victims.

    Folks want to target bigoted racist morons, be my guest. When innocent 13 year olds and 17 year olds are targeted, it’s stupid. No matter what color the aggressor is.

    You like to act like everything is one-sided when it’s not. That’s the point here.

    And you of course twisted my words to mean something I didn’t intend. Par for the course for you. By ‘hit another’ I meant “get to another”. Not hit in the literal sense. I could have easily said “we’ll hit 13 whites before getting to another black”. That’s okay though, it’s all you have to hang onto so go ahead. We all know your MO.

  161. Sullivan44 Says:

    And the dirt on Martin’s come to light, too. Like I said, there’s as much evidence of a bias against Martin as there is a bias against Zimmerman.

  162. Sullivan44 Says:

    I disagree, something good is going to come of this. When the DOJ concludes their investigation, George Zimmerman is going to prison, where he belongs. Justice served. Good thing. You said yourself he’s guilty as all heck.

  163. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Squirm all you want…fact is blacks target whites at a bigger rate. If someone’s dying, it doesn’t matter what the motivation. There is nothing worse you can do then to take someone’s life, besides rape, which is equally awful.

  164. RaiderTiv Says:

    Instead of talking Raider foot ball. I noticed we are talking about Race issues. SO if we are talking about the Martin Murder and Zimmerman…why are we not talking about the Boy who is white that got set on fire by 2 black 16 year olds on his own front porch trying to get inside his house! They poured gas on him and hit him with a bic lighter this happend in Kansas City. I doubt you will see Rev Al and Rev Jesse there to comfort the parents…probably go and defend the boys that did it and give them medals. You won’t see that in international news…which brings me to the Iraqi woman…it did make head line news around the nation…I saw it here in Missouri.

  165. KoolKell Says:

    #160, I feel ya. We’ve got to stop this.

  166. Sullivan44 Says:

    Blacks target whites for their money, not because they hate them. Whites target blacks because of their race. And we just saw another example of it in Florida, per your own admission. “guilty as heck”, is what you said. And then you promised more black people will get “hit” by white racists in the future.

  167. RaiderTiv Says:

    By the way…they said to that boy “Thats what you get white boy!!” HATE CRIME

  168. Sullivan44 Says:

    RaiderTiv, the white kid killed by black kids were teenagers attacking teenagers. Not the same thing as an adult attacking a teenager.

  169. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    That’s the only good point I’ve heard you make. If Zimmerman was going to get off, and this attention refocuses the attention, then yes that is good. I’m concerned about the affect on the folks not involved though. Hate is a dangerous thing.

  170. Hardline Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 12:33 am

    “Blacks target whites for their money, not because they hate them. Whites target blacks because of their race.”
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Where did you ever come with that theory Sullivan ?

  171. Sullivan44 Says:

    I don’t think there’ll be too much of an affect on those not involved. The type of people that support Zimmerman will continue to defend white racists whenever they make the news.

  172. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    I promised? LOL! Get some sleep, MR.

  173. Sullivan44 Says:

    This is what you said, Ghost of Al

    “Don’t worry lady, you’ll go through 13 white people with no fanfare before we hit another Trayvon.”

    Sounds like a promise to me.

  174. Smokey Says:

    Best Smokey Robinson song ever:
    Tracks of my tears

  175. KoolKell Says:

    Oh yeah, Black folk have a long history of abusing whites.

  176. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    And you of course twisted my words to mean something I didn’t intend. Par for the course for you. By ‘hit another’ I meant “get to another”. Not hit in the literal sense. I could have easily said “we’ll hit 13 whites before getting to another black”. That’s okay though, it’s all you have to hang onto so go ahead. We all know your MO.

  177. KoolKell Says:

    I’m surprised black folk haven’t been annilated yet, for all their cruelty to white folk.

  178. Hardline Says:

    “According to news reports, Christian and Newsom, both white, had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was carjacked, bound and blindfolded by three males, and “taken back to Lemaricus Devall ‘Slim’ Davidson’s rented house on Chipman Street.

    According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sod.mized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.

    Channon’s death came only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vag.na, a.us and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with “an object,” possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution – all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then “hog-tied,” with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.

  179. Hardline Says:

    The perpetrators of this crime were black, and didn’t seem to have larceny on their minds…..

  180. Sullivan44 Says:

    “We hit another Trayvon”

    we = a group of people you belong to. “Them” would be a group of people you don’t belong to. “We” means you, and others.

    hit = in the context in which you used it, it means kill. Murder. A “hit”. Like a mafia hit.

    “a trayvon” = in this context, you mean a black person.

    “before we hit another Trayvon”.

    Is that not what you said?

  181. Wannabisi Says:

    Best Elvis song ever:

    Live performance at half time, Raiders vs Houston Texans, “we’re caught in a trap”

    Even tho Elvis did some stupid stuff, at least he was a Raider fan. Makes the dude all right, cept for “I did it my way”. Never cared for that song.

    ♪♫♪♫♪ I did it, mmmmyyyyy wwaaaaaayyyyy ♪♫♪♫♪♫

  182. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    LOL. Sidekick getting in on the comedy routine. Let’s keep it to the present day, okay sidekick. Or is that how you rationalize? Is this payback for history? Fight ignorance with more ignorance?

  183. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    MR – those words can mean many things. You took it that way because that’s what your bigoted mind wants to believe. Not my problem. Get help.

  184. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    We = society
    hit another = encounter another

    That’s what I meant. Like it or not. It’s all you have to hang your hat on, though. Twisting words to avoid having to respond to the many other words I posted. So sad.

  185. Sullivan44 Says:

    You’re clearly the one who needs help, Ghost of Al. I hope no black people live near you or your so called “we”. I fear for their lives.

  186. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Hardline – it must have been a robbery gone bad, no? MR, the expert says so.

  187. Sullivan44 Says:

    “Don’t worry lady, you’ll go through 13 white people with no fanfare before we hit another Trayvon.”

  188. Gremlin Raider 101 Says:

    :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

    I’m ssooooooooooooo excited to see the new look Raidahs. I just hope the say NO to the new look uni’s, cuz the traditional Raider uni’s do not need any modification.

    :mad: :lol: :mad: :lol: :mad:

    :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

  189. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    I have never harmed nor have any intention or desire to harm a black person. MLK is one of my personal heros. What I do hate are bigots, no matter their color. Keep trying. Poor MR…

  190. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ghost, just curious. What city do you live in?

  191. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    LOL. MR in melt down mode. How many more times you going to post that? Won’t change anything. Ah, what a sad little man. Have nothing else to comment on? Must be because you have no retort to what I’m saying.

  192. Sullivan44 Says:

    “I have never harmed nor have any intention or desire to harm a black person. MLK is one of my personal heros. What I do hate are bigots, no matter their color. Keep trying. Poor MR…” – Ghost of Al Davis

    “Don’t worry lady, you’ll go through 13 white people with no fanfare before we hit another Trayvon.” – Ghost of Al Davis

  193. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    I live in one of the most diverse cities in the nation and wouldn’t have it any other way. I’ll let you guess at which one. Too much of one race makes me ill.

  194. Sullivan44 Says:

    Eating your own words doesn’t taste good, does it? Especially when the words are as disgusting as yours.

    What city do you live in? Just curious.

  195. Sullivan44 Says:

    “Too much of one race makes me ill.”

    Yeah, and I think you’ve already revealed which race that is…

  196. Hardline Says:

    Sullivan44,

    Sorry dude, maybe there is credence in your theory that most blacks accost whites in robbery attempts. Read the following regarding a crime that 2 black perpetrators on trial for murder and robbery committed in April of 2011, in Florida:

    “A British tourist cried for his life as his friend was shot, then was gunned down himself, a court has heard.

    Shawn Tyson, who is accused of killing James Kouzaris, 24, and James Cooper, 25, allegedly told a friend that he tried to rob them, but when they did not have any money, he shot one first, then the other.

    Latrece Washington, 18, said Tyson told her he told the men that as they did not have any money, he had “something for your ass”.

    Kouzaris, from Northampton, and Cooper, from Hampton Lucy, Warwick, were gunned down after they drunkenly walked into a public housing project known as The Courts in the early hours of 16 April.

    They were found shirtless with their trousers round their thighs, but still had their wallets and a small amount of money on them.

    Tyson, 17, is charged with two counts of first-degree murder.

    Washington, who was 17 at the time, yesterday told the court that on 16 April last year, Tyson told her he had shot the men.”

  197. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Too bad you have no rebuttal to this. I must have slapped you silly with some truth.

    The Ghost Of Al Davis Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    Hardly reporting. LOL. They’re reporting it, aren’t they? It’s come to light. Fact is they’re fanning racial flames all across this country and not reporting it when it goes in reverse. Nothing good will come of this. It could result in retaliation type violence and all caused by the media’s greed.

    You won’t change the bigoted white population’s views of such things and it will only spark anger from the black community against whites, including areas where there isn’t even a racial problem, against innocent victims.

    Folks want to target bigoted racist morons, be my guest. When innocent 13 year olds and 17 year olds are targeted, it’s stupid. No matter what color the aggressor is.

    You like to act like everything is one-sided when it’s not. That’s the point here.

    And you of course twisted my words to mean something I didn’t intend. Par for the course for you. By ‘hit another’ I meant “get to another”. Not hit in the literal sense. I could have easily said “we’ll hit 13 whites before getting to another black”. That’s okay though, it’s all you have to hang onto so go ahead. We all know your MO.

  198. Sullivan44 Says:

    Oh, you slapped me silly with some truth alright.

  199. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Haha! There he goes again. MR, you remind me of Rush Limbaugh.

  200. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hardline, the article describes a robbery gone bad. Goes further to back up my argument. Most black crimes against whites are robberies. Most white crimes against blacks are racially motivated.

  201. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Hardline – MR doesn’t want to respond to you right now. He’s busy twisting and reposting small bits of my words but with his own dellusional translation. Such is the case when one doesn’t have anything intelligent to say. How old are you, MR? You sound like a couple of broken records I remember from elementary school.

  202. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ghost of Al Davis, you remind me of George Zimmerman.

    “Don’t worry lady, you’ll go through 13 white people with no fanfare before we hit another Trayvon.”

  203. KoolKell Says:

    Ghost of Al Davis

    I think American History, will teach you the law of averages in America, when it comes to race crimes.

  204. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 1:01 am
    Ghost of Al Davis

    I think American History, will teach you the law of averages in America, when it comes to race crimes.

    ##################################

    Let’s keep it to the present day, okay. Or is that how you rationalize? Is this payback for history? Fight ignorance with more ignorance? Your ancestors would be ashamed. With all that they went through only to have you rationalize present day ignorance using all the blood, sweat, and tears that they shed. So sad…

  205. Sullivan44 Says:

    Keep it to the present day? No problemo. This quote is from today:

    “Don’t worry lady, you’ll go through 13 white people with no fanfare before we hit another Trayvon.”

  206. KoolKell Says:

    I’ve never seen a crowd of black folk, lynching a white dude, have you?

  207. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    MR – you’re embarrassing yourself. Post something intelligent. Save some dignity. Quit acting like a troll.

  208. Sullivan44 Says:

    “I have never harmed nor have any intention or desire to harm a black person. MLK is one of my personal heros. What I do hate are bigots, no matter their color. Keep trying. Poor MR…”

    “Your ancestors would be ashamed. With all that they went through only to have you rationalize present day ignorance using all the blood, sweat, and tears that they shed.”

    “Don’t worry lady, you’ll go through 13 white people with no fanfare before we hit another Trayvon.”

  209. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    I’ve never seen a crowd of white folk lynching a black dude either. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

  210. Sullivan44 Says:

    Is there a better word for deranged?

  211. KoolKell Says:

    I’ve never seen a “whites at the back of the bus” sign, have you?

  212. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 1:09 am

    Is there a better word for deranged?

    ###############

    Yes, there is….Sullivan44. aka RMR

  213. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ghost of Al Davis, I really got under your skin. If I were black, I’d fear for my life.

  214. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Nor have I seen a “blacks at the back of the bus” sign. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

  215. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    More comedy, eh, MR? Right, you got under my skin. I reduced you to full-on troll mode and you’re the one to get under my skin. LOL. Poor guy.

    Oh, and you have nothing to fear, my little troll. No matter what your skin color.

  216. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ghost, you’re worked up. I have to be honest, if I were black, I might contact the authorities. What you’ve said earlier combined with this anger? Not good.

  217. KoolKell Says:

    It’s “certain people” who get very uncomfortable with these conversations.

  218. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    LOL. Funny guy, you are. Authorities would laugh at you like they have many times over already, I’m sure.

  219. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m not going to call the authorities, Ghost. I know you won’t harm me. I’m white. But if I were black, I’d be concerned. Heck, Im still concerned for black people who live near you.

  220. KoolKell Says:

    Peace Gentlemen, goodnite

  221. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Goodnite, Kell.

  222. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    MR, I’m touched you would try to bait me with the same fervor you do some of your regular rivals in here. Sorry it fell flat on its face.

  223. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m out too. Goodnight, Kell.

    Ghost, move to a rural area.

  224. Hardline Says:

    Ghost,

    What were you two arguing about anyway ?

  225. papertiger418 Says:

    This is NOT the blog to talk about race relations or hate crimes. The internet has more than enough forums for those of you who wish to do so.

  226. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Nah, rural areas not for me. I do have black neighbors, MR. As much as you hate to hear this, we have cordial conversations every time we see each other. Too bad you’re so full of hatred, MR. I’m glad we don’t have people like you in my neighborhood. Nope, no bigots that I know of in this area.

  227. papertiger418 Says:

    And if we want to talk about media coverage, we can always make fun of Bill Williamson’s AFC West blog over on ESPN. Guy covered the Broncos for the Post. Enough said.

  228. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Hardline Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 1:30 am
    Ghost,

    What were you two arguing about anyway ?

    ###########################

    Just pointing out MR’s bigotry. The facts were too much for him to handle so he tried to twist my words and kept posting the same thing over and over. Poor guy.

  229. Hardline Says:

    Ghost,

    I think think Sullivan44 called it a night already.

  230. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    Yes, that’s enough of that. I agree, tiger. Hey, any of you catch that talk from Reggie about wanting more “NFL money”. He mentioned the cap separately but hopefully that’s all he was referring to.

  231. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    It’s about time. Well past his bed time.

  232. Hardline Says:

    Ghost,

    Some posters here get very worked up, especially at night. I think they are drinking and have a bad reaction. There is a guy named HaysDaze, who gets very worked up at me using personal attacks, name calling etc.

    I wouldn’t worry about Sullivan44. He gets all worked up over nothing.

  233. The Ghost of Al Davis Says:

    I agree, Hardline. I think folks come in here expecting too much. These are the folks typically with no life outside of the online communities they attend. And that explains why they take things so personal and get all worked up. To them, this is everything. So when they get called out or folks don’t agree with everything they say, they act out in internet bravado or obnoxious troll-like behavior.

  234. papertiger418 Says:

    I just don’t understand the mentality. I mean, I check in here to basically just talk about how awesome the Raiders are and to disparage our opponents in the AFC West and across the NFL in general. You think that would provide more than enough subject matter to satisfy people, but apparently that’s not the case. It’s just frustrating because I do care about those other topics; I just don’t care to think about them when visiting this blog.

  235. fingers Says:

    No Football talk ?… I’ll comeback for the Morning shift …

  236. guest123 Says:

    Good Morning Nation

  237. Mark Clemens Says:

    Good morning. We are alive at ninety five!

  238. guest123 Says:

    Yes indeed. I was thinking it would be 96, but I forgot that TP actually boosted us a pick, so 95 and still alive!

  239. bcz24 Says:

    Make sure you all go to NFL.Com/Bracketology and vote for the ‘76 Raiders as the greatest team of all time. They are in the final 4, up against the ‘85 Bears in the semi-finals! Raider Nation lets pull our boys to victory!

  240. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!

  241. fingers Says:

    239..I had the honor of being there and watching the 76 team destroy the Vikings in Pasadena in 77……
    One of my fondest memory’s… You bet I’ll vote for them…

  242. Mark Clemens Says:

    Fingers, you should be inducted into this blog’s hall of fame. Anyone who was at a Raiders Super Bowl victory is an automatic inductee.

  243. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.WAS IN NEW ORLEANS IN JAN-1981.SB-XV.AS A 20 YEAR OLD KID, THE 5 DAYS I SPENT THERE AROUND SUPER-SUNDAY WITH MY FATHER AND 3 UNCLES SHALL I SAY,WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

  244. fingers Says:

    242..I was living in Santa Monica at the time… … My whole family are diehard bayarea born Raider fans…anyway… My uncle brought down his family and they stayed with me and my girlfriend and had 2 tickets for us…never forget the electricity in the stands if the Rosebowl that day…total Raider day….Just dominated …

  245. RaiderRockstar Says:

    when you set the board, you try to set it to where you can have some possible starters through the fifth round. -RM

    ***

    how awesome would it be for BigMac to draft 4 starters in this year’s draft?

  246. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I need a lot more picks than what I have now and some more free agent moves. The only thing I wish I had more of was NFL money and NFL cap. That’s what I wish I had more of. -RM

    ***

    Are there gonna be some trades on draft day?

  247. fingers Says:

    I trust Reggie…. I believe he knows exactly what he’s going to do….. And I believe we’re gonna to be better off with him as GM

  248. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: What do you do from here going forward in regards to clearing more space to add pieces to puzzle?

    McKenzie: Not a whole lot this year. I think the bulk of it has been done. Now it’s just, you try to wait it out and see who the best fit for these 53 guys in the long run to make this team and then try to figure out, at this point its going to be production and talent.

    ***

    hot dang!

    Cross everybody off the PFT Top 100 FA list. Oakland isn’t a potential destination

  249. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:08 am
    I need a lot more picks than what I have now and some more free agent moves. The only thing I wish I had more of was NFL money and NFL cap. That’s what I wish I had more of. -RM

    ***

    Are there gonna be some trades on draft day?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple mid/late round picks go next year to get another 3rd/4th/5th this year.

    Wouldn’t look for anything more than that though. Reggie Mac can’t trade next year’s 1st, for instance, even if he wanted to because that pick belongs to the Bengals if we make the AFC Championship.

  250. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    hot dang!

    Cross everybody off the PFT Top 100 FA list. Oakland isn’t a potential destination

    ++++++++++++++++

    Mostly I can’t disagree with Reggie, although guys like David Hawthorne and Leroy Hill remain unsigned and the LB corps needs a boost.

  251. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    fingers Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:09 am
    I trust Reggie…. I believe he knows exactly what he’s going to do….. And I believe we’re gonna to be better off with him as GM

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Every time he opens his mouth I feel better about him. So fcking stoked about the RM era.

  252. guest123 Says:

    DIRT LOT and Fingers for induction to honorary Raider Blog HOF? what say you all?

    I say yes.

    My greatest Raider ‘live’ moment was watching Jim Plunkett defeat the Houston Oilers in Dec 79 at the Oakland Alameda Coliseum on their way to SBIV. Beat them down 27-7 that day.

    I am humbled.

  253. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Here’s a name that could be had in the 4th to 6th round that you guys are gonna get sick of hearing me repeat for the next month: Danny Trevathan, OLB from Kentucky.

    John Booty said, and I agree, that he was the best OLB in the SEC last year and that covers some big time schools and big time players. He’s flying under the radar. Some team, and I hope it’s the Raiders, are going to get a steal.

  254. fingers Says:

    251…agreed

  255. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m going to use the draft the best available player, and if it’s at position that we’re strong, so be it. – RM

    ***

    Reggie just took out all the guesswork.

    #95 = BPA

  256. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    MORE NAMES:

    Nick Jean-Baptiste, NT, Baylor
    Emmanuel Acho, OLB, Texas
    Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati
    Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
    Joe Looney, G, Wake Forest
    David Molk, C, Michigan
    Desmond Wynn, G, Rutgers
    Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
    Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia

  257. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the contract and production, all of that goes hand in hand. If something is not matching, or it’s kind of out of whack, you’re going to have to be forced to make a decision – RM

    ***

    no more scholarships!

    you hearin’ this, McClain ???

  258. fingers Says:

    I’ve always been a huge Al Davis fan… But the last decade I believe had slipped in his decision making ..

  259. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:16 am
    I’m going to use the draft the best available player, and if it’s at position that we’re strong, so be it. – RM

    ***

    Reggie just took out all the guesswork.

    #95 = BPA

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Always a wise strategy. Drafting for need is okay in the 1st round, where you’re hoping to get that immediate impact player. Other than that? BPA, BPA, BPA.

  260. guest123 Says:

    I still think Reggie could be doing more to bring in quality vets to keep this team competitive. If it’s true of the ’salary cap myth’, he should be restructuring and signing Branch long term. It’s a two year window to get out of cap hell.

    Reggie Mac can do more if he wanted to. I hope he succeeds, but I am critical of him being too conservative. We still have to field a competitive team and we have some holes that aren’t solvable through only the draft.

  261. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:18 am
    the contract and production, all of that goes hand in hand. If something is not matching, or it’s kind of out of whack, you’re going to have to be forced to make a decision – RM

    ***

    no more scholarships!

    you hearin’ this, McClain ???

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yep. Put up or shut up time. They pretty clearly see potential there enough to give him another go, but I really think he only gets this season to prove he should be a Raider from 2013 and beyond.

  262. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BigMac thinks this year’s team will be better than last years … so do I

    2012 Raiders = AFC West Champs !!

  263. fingers Says:

    The Teams being run like a real business now…and we still have a a great legacy to build on ….were gonna be fine..

  264. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BigMac ain’t scared of Peyton Manning

    that makes 3 of us, JFB

  265. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THAT WAS IN DEC-1980 GUEST.WAS SITTING IN SEC129 ROW 3 SEAT 2..LESTER HAYS HAD A MONSTER DAY WITH THOSE CORNER BLITZES. WAS ALL OVER SNAKE THAT DAY.WAS SORRY TO SEE STABLER COME “HOME”THAT WAY BUT HEY,HE WAS THE ENEMY THAT DAY..

  266. fingers Says:

    I don’t know a lot about coach Allen , but he seemed to motivate that Donkey defense last yr and all I’ve heard are good things about his leadership

  267. fingers Says:

    265…I still have my ” I was there” button from the 77 superbowl…( 76 ) team…

  268. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:22 am
    BigMac ain’t scared of Peyton Manning

    that makes 3 of us, JFB

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ahem. 4.

  269. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    fingers Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:25 am
    265…I still have my ” I was there” button from the 77 superbowl…( 76 ) team…

    ++++++++++++++

    The ‘76 Raiders have made the Final Four of the NFL’s fan voting tournament of the all time greatest team

  270. guest123 Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:23 am
    THAT WAS IN DEC-1980 GUEST.WAS SITTING IN SEC129 ROW 3 SEAT 2..LESTER HAYS HAD A MONSTER DAY WITH THOSE CORNER BLITZES. WAS ALL OVER SNAKE THAT DAY.WAS SORRY TO SEE STABLER COME “HOME”THAT WAY BUT HEY,HE WAS THE ENEMY THAT DAY..

    *********

    I remember Lester Hayes had a great day….guess it was ‘80. Didn’t Lester have a pick 6 that day? I thought it was Dan Pastorini who was the enemy. The defense shut down Earl Campbell. I was like 14 yo back then. Houston fans sitting in front of me cheering on the team in white. My uncle took me to the game, said “good guys wear black”.

  271. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we’ve got a pretty good group of guys up front where we can get after the passer and are still pretty stout against the run – DA

    ***

    ShoNasty-Seymour-Kelly-Houston

    studly group under Allen & Tarver ???

  272. guest123 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:27 am
    we’ve got a pretty good group of guys up front where we can get after the passer and are still pretty stout against the run – DA

    ***

    ShoNasty-Seymour-Kelly-Houston

    studly group under Allen & Tarver ???

    ******

    Only if we are running a base 4-3

  273. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I ENVY U FINGERS.TO SEE THAT TEAM ON THAT DAY..I DO ENVY U SIR.

  274. fingers Says:

    I can’t wait to see Manning thrown around like a Ragdoll…. I also don’t believe at 36 and having had 4 neck surgerys that he’s gonna be the same manning we remember …

  275. JR Says:

    You are NOT the only one!

    ——————————–
    Gdog Says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Politics politics politics… despite hundreds of pleas for it to stop.

    There are a thousand POLITICAL blogs to argue politics.

    Why is it here??

    Mob rules??

    NBA garbage is at least SPORTS… am I the only one sick of skipping over ten garbage posts to see one about Raider football??

    This should be self-policed.

  276. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing – DA

    ***

    uhhh, I don’t see where Dennis Allen says ROMAC is talented. nothing about being stout versus the run or fierce in coverage. no lofty expectations. nothing about skill or work ethic. nothing about leadership or the ability to shed blocks.

    Can some of you semi pro’s read between the lines here and make me feel better about our MLB play next season?

    If our D-Line is “pretty stout against the run” as Allen describes it, why were we TERRIBLE at defending it?

    are we still blaming Michael Huff? LOL!!!

  277. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    PASTORINI WAS TRADED 4 STABLER IN OFF SEASON AFTER 79 SEASON AND WAS HURT IN GAME 5 VS K.C.I WAS IN SAME SEAT.PLUNKETT CAME IN AND THE REST IS HISTORY.YES,LESTER DID BRING ONE BACK 4 A TD.

  278. hwnrdr Says:

    I ain’t scared of anyone on our schedule this year! to be the best, you have to beat the best…and I think we will surprise many this year (barring injuries)! Bring it on!!!

  279. guest123 Says:

    fingers Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:30 am
    I can’t wait to see Manning thrown around like a Ragdoll…. I also don’t believe at 36 and having had 4 neck surgerys that he’s gonna be the same manning we remember …

    *******

    I agree. Peyton relies on timing of his skill position and communications during the snap count. He’s working with young unproven guys who never had to work to be so precise as Peyton is going to demand.

    And what do we know of Peyton’s live arm strength anymore? He’s going to be so overhyped and anything less than Peyton vinatage ‘95/96 will be a huge failure.

  280. hwnrdr Says:

    Dirt Lot…was that the game that the coliseum errupted after Pastorini got hurt?

  281. fingers Says:

    275…agree…I come here to escape politics…

  282. JR Says:

    Reggie isn’t selling any snake oil. He has a plan.

    —————————————-

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:12 am

    fingers Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:09 am
    I trust Reggie…. I believe he knows exactly what he’s going to do….. And I believe we’re gonna to be better off with him as GM

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Every time he opens his mouth I feel better about him. So fcking stoked about the RM era.

  283. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Honestly RRS, when I read between the lines of what DA is saying, this is what I see:

    “These players have been laboring under an outdated scheme and sch!t coaching for years. I can fix that.”

  284. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Corner was a position we had to make sure we had to upgrade. I think we did a nice job of that, Shawntae Spencer and obviously Ron Bartell. We’re excited about who we have back there – DA

    ***

    Routt, CJ37, Sheppard, Eugene gone.

    Bartell, Spencer, Underwood, Lee = upgrade?

    strange. the consenus on this blog is that our secondary will be awful next season – perhaps the NFL’s worst – and that we’re definately gonna draft a CB at #95

    me thinks not!!

  285. fingers Says:

    279… I had the same surgery on my Neck Mannings had… But I only needed 1 surgery…4 Screws hold 2 vertebrae together… I don’t see how he’s gonna make it… I know all people are diffrent … But having 4 surgerys means he had problems ..

  286. JR Says:

    The 40 times may not equal great players, but it does mean that these are good athletes.

    The good-40-times guys also have been playing football for a long time. Hopefully Allen can coach them up.

  287. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WERE A FEW JEERS HWNRDR,BUT ERRUPTED,NO.A LARGE PORTION OF RAIDER FANS WERE STILL IN SHOCK OF SNAKE BEING SHIPPED OUT.ANYBODY BEHIND CENTER THAT YEAR WOULD NOT BE IN A GOOD SITUATION WITH THE FAN BASE..

  288. Mark Clemens Says:

    My greatest live Raider moment was Nov. 30, 1987. That was the Bo Jackson Monday Night game against Seattle. 221 yards for Bo Jackson, 91 yard TD run, and running over Bozworth at the goal line.

  289. Carl Weathers Says:

    Dennis Allen says a whole lotta nothing. I like it. Do your talking on the field.

    p.s. Thanks for the draft picks Goodell!

  290. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:37 am
    Corner was a position we had to make sure we had to upgrade. I think we did a nice job of that, Shawntae Spencer and obviously Ron Bartell. We’re excited about who we have back there – DA

    ***

    Routt, CJ37, Sheppard, Eugene gone.

    Bartell, Spencer, Underwood, Lee = upgrade?

    strange. the consenus on this blog is that our secondary will be awful next season – perhaps the NFL’s worst – and that we’re definately gonna draft a CB at #95

    me thinks not!!

    ———————
    If we had all the new names you mentioned along with a restructured Routt I would feel differently about the secondary. Eugene and CJ37 were addtion by subtraction, Lito was ok. We will see what happens with draft/trades/free agency.

  291. fingers Says:

    The morning shift is hands down the best shift on this blog … Way to much nonsense and bickering at night …

  292. fingers Says:

    That Donkey defense was nothing … Allen got them playing good ball. He will do it here too..

  293. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    fingers Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:43 am
    The morning shift is hands down the best shift on this blog … Way to much nonsense and bickering at night …

    ++++++++++

    Amen. Don’t even come on here at night. If I want to talk politics, I’ll go to a political bog and get in a fight. Mostly I want to avoid that schit, so I come here to talk sports. Good times.

  294. hwnrdr Says:

    287.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:40 am
    WERE A FEW JEERS HWNRDR,BUT ERRUPTED,NO.A LARGE PORTION OF RAIDER FANS WERE STILL IN SHOCK OF SNAKE BEING SHIPPED OUT.ANYBODY BEHIND CENTER THAT YEAR WOULD NOT BE IN A GOOD SITUATION WITH THE FAN BASE..

    Yeah, I can imagine…I was like, “What the…” … Couldn’t swear at the time, but I sure wanted to! In the end it turned out ok though…Never wanted to even know why The Snake, The Ghost and The Assassin was traded to Houston!

  295. hwnrdr Says:

    293.SilverNBlackPA Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:46 am
    fingers Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:43 am
    The morning shift is hands down the best shift on this blog … Way to much nonsense and bickering at night …

    ++++++++++

    Amen. Don’t even come on here at night. If I want to talk politics, I’ll go to a political bog and get in a fight. Mostly I want to avoid that schit, so I come here to talk sports. Good times.

    Sometimes I go in there in the pm…it does get ridiculuous at times…there are maybe a few times where its about football and have some good convos going…not always though…
    I think the main topic I’ve seen in here last night was Travon martin!

  296. fingers Says:

    I’ve got some chores to do.. Raider On!!….see ya Later …

  297. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Allen is talking to our defensive leader Rolando frequently, and getting him prepared to have a bigger rue the day list than McFadden.

  298. Just Fire Baby Says:

    (sorry comment from last nights topic……)

    Hwnrdr,

    You asked last night when is it OK to kill someone. Here is your answer, and why Zimmerman won’t face charges.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/21/2706789/miami-judge-stabbing-in-the-back.html

  299. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple mid/late round picks go next year to get another 3rd/4th/5th this year.

    ***

    I hope Reggie doesn’t trade future picks.

    I hope he makes due with what he’s got this year – 5 draft selections

  300. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I WILL TRY AND MAKE THIS BRIEF..
    AFTER GAME 5 IN 1980 VS KC.THE GAME WERE PASTORINI GOES DOWN,DAVE CASPER,WHO HAD A VERY BAD GAE BY THE WAY,GOES OFF TO THE PRESS AFTER THE GAME.BASICALLY SAYING THE TEAM WASNT THAT GOOD,WERE GOING NOWHERE AND SO ON.THEY HAD A 2-3 RECORD AT THE TIME.AL WASTED NO TIME IN TRADING CASPER TO THE OILERS (HOUSTON WAS AL’S FAVORITE TRADING PARTNER AT THE TIME,TATUM ALSO WENT TO HOUSTON)

  301. RaiderRockstar Says:

    guys like David Hawthorne and Leroy Hill remain unsigned and the LB corps needs a boost

    ***

    @PA

    Reggie said that he’s open to getting a starting linebacker to replace Kam in free agency “but the contract will have to work out” – in other words, if a good player wants to come to Oakland and get a chance to start, he’ll be welcomed with open arms, but he’ll have to accept something close to the vet minimum salary (this season anyway)

  302. guest123 Says:

    DIRT-LOT

    I don’t remember the section, row, seat I was at that game. I just remember Lester Hayes running back the INT for a TD in the opposite corner of the end zone. I was in the middle section, at the GL level, maybe a few seats back.

    It was crazy! The Houston Oiler fans with their baby blue jerseys just shook their heads. It was all Raiders that day.

  303. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:52 am
    Wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple mid/late round picks go next year to get another 3rd/4th/5th this year.

    ***

    I hope Reggie doesn’t trade future picks.

    I hope he makes due with what he’s got this year – 5 draft selections
    ——————–
    The impression I get from Reggie is he’s a guy who does not mortgage the future, therefore I highly doubt that any deal that gets done will have anything to do with future draft picks. That being said I could definetley see players on our current roster being offered as trade bait for the right price.

  304. DJ Johnny Says:

    269.SilverNBlackPA Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:26 am
    fingers Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:25 am
    265…I still have my ” I was there” button from the 77 superbowl…( 76 ) team…

    ++++++++++++++

    The ‘76 Raiders have made the Final Four of the NFL’s fan voting tournament of the all time greatest team

    Seeing as this “tournament” is nothing more than a fans popularity contest, it shows there is indeed a fairly significant Raider “nation” still out there.

  305. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh ok, so Casper mouthed off…! Got it now, thanks! But why Tatum?

  306. guest123 Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 6:55 am
    I WILL TRY AND MAKE THIS BRIEF..
    AFTER GAME 5 IN 1980 VS KC.THE GAME WERE PASTORINI GOES DOWN,DAVE CASPER,WHO HAD A VERY BAD GAE BY THE WAY,GOES OFF TO THE PRESS AFTER THE GAME.BASICALLY SAYING THE TEAM WASNT THAT GOOD,WERE GOING NOWHERE AND SO ON.THEY HAD A 2-3 RECORD AT THE TIME.AL WASTED NO TIME IN TRADING CASPER TO THE OILERS (HOUSTON WAS AL’S FAVORITE TRADING PARTNER AT THE TIME,TATUM ALSO WENT TO HOUSTON)

    ***********

    Yes, yes….

    I remember it that way too.

    2-3 to a contender was unheard of back then in the 14 game schedule.

    Plunkett was a retread, never was, wildcard QB.

    Never in the history of the Superbowl had a wildcard QB won or even gone to a SuperBowl. They were longshots the entire way, only favorites against Houston, but no one picked the Raiders to win from then on in.

    And Plunkett made history destroying the favored Eagles with Rod Martin’s 3 INT’s and Kenny King ripping off that long TD run.

  307. hwnrdr Says:

    JFB, I’m still shaking my head…
    So, if I get my a** beat down, like Zimmerman did…because of the law “Stand your ground”…I can come back and kill that guy because it is ok? By law standards, whatevers…but to me, it is never ok to kill someone because of a beat down, that you challenged! Ok, sorry…no more…

  308. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    JACK TATUM WAS TRADED THE YEAR B4 IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.JACK WAS BEAT TO DEATH.

  309. Mark Clemens Says:

    Seeing as this “tournament” is nothing more than a fans popularity contest, it shows there is indeed a fairly significant Raider “nation” still out there.
    ———-
    Hard to believe that there are no Steeler or Cowboy teams left. How the hell did the Ravens make it so far?

  310. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I still think Reggie could be doing more to bring in quality vets to keep this team competitive. If it’s true of the ’salary cap myth’, he should be restructuring and signing Branch long term. It’s a two year window to get out of cap hell.

    Reggie Mac can do more if he wanted to. I hope he succeeds, but I am critical of him being too conservative. We still have to field a competitive team and we have some holes that aren’t solvable through only the draft.

    ***

    @G123

    I agree to a certain extent. It baffles me that Seabass, Shane, DHB & Tommy Kelly haven’t been asked to restructure.

    Perhaps this is something we’re working on, but Reggie didn’t say anything to suggest that and he seems like an honest guy. Reporters flat out asked him the question

    However – I think that making Branch play the entire year on the tag could be a wise move. Tyvon Branch is an average player that has a lot of potential. potential that could be realized with a defense not created by Al Davis and coached by Chuck Bresnahan. there was a thin crop of safeties in FA, so Reggie would have found it difficult to replace TB unless he just decided to roll with Mitchell at SS for 16 games. If Branch has a breakout season, he will be rewarded. If he plays like he did under John Marshall (not in a “contract year”) he will be told to kick rocks

    BigMac doesn’t want to give Branch a monster contract and see him fail. that could have easily happened. At this point in his career, Tyvon Branch = Gibril Wilson

  311. Mark Clemens Says:

    Also, the 49ers team that destroyed Denver was probably much better than the 84 team.

  312. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I can’t wait to see Manning thrown around like a Ragdoll…. I also don’t believe at 36 and having had 4 neck surgerys that he’s gonna be the same manning we remember …

    Peyton relies on timing of his skill position and communications during the snap count. He’s working with young unproven guys who never had to work to be so precise as Peyton is going to demand.

    And what do we know of Peyton’s live arm strength anymore? He’s going to be so overhyped and anything less than Peyton vinatage ‘95/96 will be a huge failure.

    ***

    co-signed with fingers & G123 !!!

  313. Mark Clemens Says:

    I hope we get Manning early.

  314. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rolando is going to own to Rockstar in about 200 days.

    Print that!!!

  315. hwnrdr Says:

    JFB, thanks for that article…you know by all means that the last post was not a strike at you…I just shake my head sometimes!

  316. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I could definetley see players on our current roster being offered as trade bait for the right price

    ***

    @HB

    any players you have in mind with tradeable contracts?

    JFB mentioned Jacoby Ford and I can see that..

  317. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rolando is going to own to Rockstar in about 200 days.

    ***

    He’s gonna own me from the bench ??

  318. DJ Johnny Says:

    Well, I guess we have a draft after all.

    Weird to hear the Raiders getting anything resembling a “break” from the league.

    If I didn’t know better, i’d think the league might want the Raiders to improve their team a bit.

    This decision on the comp picks even surprised Reggie, so it could’ve gone the other way and no one would’ve squawked.

    I guess there’s no hard and fast formula for determining this, so for some reason the scales tipped the Raiders way it appears.

  319. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    Of course man, you could call me all kinds of names and I will just chalk it up to a bad day, lol.

    Just wanted you to know, as one of the level-headed ones here, that there is precedance to literally kill someone in Florida who is running away, and get away with it.

  320. guest123 Says:

    @RRS,

    I happen to be a Branch fan. I think he’s one of the few guys on last year’s defense that played all out, all the time, and gave 110% effort regardless of the score. He may not even be as gifted as the top 5 safeties, but the effort and professionalism is something the team sorely needs.

    In the past Al Davis would have paid Branch for his work going forward, mafioso style. Taking care of the guys who took care of him. But those days are over, and Reggie-ball is here.

    Now, not to criticise Reggie too much, since we have had our share of Gibril Wilson’s, and AD’s scholarships have ruined the team’s cap. But in the rare case of Branch, I think Reggie should pull the trigger and get him signed long term. It would open up the money we need to sign a pass rushing SLB we need.

  321. hwnrdr Says:

    Thanks, JFB!

  322. DJ Johnny Says:

    Remember, Manning was 10-6 his last yr. playing with the Colts. Good, but not world beaters, and that was a pretty good Colt team.

    The guy is not superman. He’s very good, but he can be had.

    If he was unbeatable he’d more SB’s than his little brother.

  323. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He’s gonna own me from the bench ??

    *********************************

    Yup, on the bench at the end of a game, basking in the glow of another blowout victory he led.

  324. Mark Clemens Says:

    Weird to hear the Raiders getting anything resembling a “break” from the league.
    ———–
    No Al = No Vendetta

  325. guest123 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 7:13 am
    Well, I guess we have a draft after all.

    Weird to hear the Raiders getting anything resembling a “break” from the league.

    If I didn’t know better, i’d think the league might want the Raiders to improve their team a bit.

    This decision on the comp picks even surprised Reggie, so it could’ve gone the other way and no one would’ve squawked.

    I guess there’s no hard and fast formula for determining this, so for some reason the scales tipped the Raiders way it appears.

    ******

    Was thinking the same thing. Maybe the NFL just wants to give the post AD management a shot in the arm. Maybe now they can allow his son a chance to field a winner.

    I only hope that Mark Davis one day hoists the SB trophy high in the air, and say’s “this one’s for your dad!”.

  326. bcz24 Says:

    I think we bled off all the ‘talent’ we are going to get rid of. I don’t see any trades occurring, unless someone makes an offer that is considered WAY overpaying for a player (like giving us a 2nd rounder for Kelly or Ford)

  327. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Peyton is 9-10 in the playoffs.

    I believe he has 6 first round playoff losses.

    Elway will be canned soon enough, as this is going to just blow up in his face.

    People mock Tebow, but he set a fairly high bar for Peyton to get over.

    He won the division and than threw for 300 yards in a playoff win to get to the 2nd round. Anything less will be a massive failure for Peyton and Smellway.

  328. RaiderRockstar Says:

    But in the rare case of Branch, I think Reggie should pull the trigger and get him signed long term. It would open up the money we need to sign a pass rushing SLB we need

    ***

    @G123

    I’m confident Reggie will find Wimbley’s replacement via cheap free agent or mid-round draft pick

    he’s an excellent talent evaluator. thats his reputation anyways.

    Let’s not forget that next year we’ll have money to spend in free agency and draft picks to use. So if Branch doesn’t cut it, it won’t be hard to replace him. TB being tagged gives us a year to see if he’s gonna dominate in this new defensive scheme. You can’t say with 100% certainty that he will. nobody can – which is why nobody on defense got a big money deal

  329. guest123 Says:

    I’d love to trade Ford and/or Kelly. Their value will never be higher than it is right now. Either draft picks or players. We have more important needs right now and Kelly’s cap number is too high.

  330. DJ Johnny Says:

    Guest,

    When they hoist the Lombardi they should all be wearing Al Davis masks just to tick everybody off.

  331. J Hill Says:

    Q: Talk about personnel that you’re inheriting and how much talent is there, if guys can fit in and can you take advantage of their skills?

    Allen: I think we’ve got some key players in place. Obviously, up front, we’ve got a pretty good group of guys up front where we can get after the passer and are still pretty stout against the run up front, from a linebacker standpoint. Rolando McClain was a first round draft choice and I’m looking forward to the opportunity of getting to work with him and he’s been real receptive to what we’re planning on doing.

    ———————————————————-

    RRS,

    Why don’t you read the question first!

    After reading the question, the first NAME he mentions when talking about “talent he is inheriting” is Rolando McClain.

    He thinks McClain can “fit in” to what he wants to do, and he can “take advantage” of his skills.

    Where’s my man Banana????

    How’s that for reading between the lines, lol!

  332. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/tommy-kelly/

    @bcz

    I think Kelly’s contract makes him untradeable, don’t you?

  333. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 7:11 am
    I could definetley see players on our current roster being offered as trade bait for the right price

    ***

    @HB

    any players you have in mind with tradeable contracts?

    JFB mentioned Jacoby Ford and I can see that..

    ——————-
    I tried giving this a lot of thought and as you said the key here is tradeable contracts. I think that the players I see as possible trade bait get ruled out for the reason of another team not wanting to pick up there contract unless there is some kind of agreement made with said trade partner. Big Reg may trade someone that really surprises most of the nation and not neccasarily making them happy. Even with no top draft picks the draft weekend may be interesting. Oh I do see L. Murphy gone for a 7th rounder or late 6th round. Like to see Jacoby stay, Wouldn’t be shocked if he was gone either.

  334. guest123 Says:

    @ RRS,

    That’s a good point about no big defensive signings. What does that say about Reggie’s confidence in Tarver? I think he’s under a microscope. A one year trial period to see if he can turn the defense around with just coaching.

  335. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How’s that for reading between the lines

    ***

    thanks, Jhill

    knew I could count on you!

    :)

  336. bcz24 Says:

    I was just using Kelly and Ford as examples, not implying that that is going to happen. I was trying to demonstrate what I meant by saying I don’t think anyone will be traded unless someone makes an offer that is far more valuable than the player we are getting.

  337. John David Booty Says:

    Picks are out. We have #95, #129, #148, #168, #189.

  338. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t even think Lou Murphy could net us a 6th or 7th rounder.

    He will probably get the same treatment that lame Kirk Morrison did, package him to move up maybe 15-20 spots in a later round.

  339. John David Booty Says:

    3rd round #95
    4th round #129
    5 round #148 and #168
    6th round #189

  340. RaiderRockstar Says:

    L. Murphy gone for a 7th rounder or late 6th round

    ***

    @HB

    Murph definately needs to step up his game. I could see him getting shipped out for next to nothing, but I have hope he’ll turn it around. he gets hurt a lot and often has a case of alligator arms while crossing the middle

  341. Dakota Says:

    You don’t get compensatroy picks for losing players you cut do you? It would be awesome to get some pick next year for Routt, Boss and Wimbley!

    Maybe we will get something for Bush and Campbell though….and Gio of course.

  342. RaiderRockstar Says:

    lame Kirk Morrison

    ***

    @JFB

    calling Capt Kirk “lame” would be like calling Manute Bol “fat”

    doesn’t make any sense.

  343. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post ladies

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