Tollefson leaves Oakland without contract
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, April 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Free agent defensive lineman Dave Tollefson said he is on his way back home, to Omaha, Neb., pleased with the way his visit went with the Raiders today but without a contract in hand.
Tollefson, 29, said he is hopeful of working out a contract with the Raiders in the coming days. In the interim, he is headed to Nashville on Thursday for a visit with the Tennessee Titans.
“I’m sure the Raiders don’t want me going to Tennessee,” Tollefson said by phone a few minutes ago. “So, I hope something gets worked out beforehand.”
Tollefson is an Ygnacio Valley High School graduate who also attended Los Medanos College. He has spent the past five seasons with the New York Giants, playing a pivotal role in their winning two Super Bowl titles.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie has shown a knack for landing players he gets in the building in Alameda. So far, he has signed every player who has made the trek to Alameda. Signing Tollefson would make McKenzie 5-for-5.
As Tollefson said, the ball is in the Raiders court.
Tollefson would join the Raiders defensive line rotation and become a core member of the special teams if he signs here.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
bootlickers start your engines…
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Id really like to see the Raiders snag Tolle……do it Reggie
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
bummer
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Reggie will sign #5 on April 5…print that.
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Must be asking for starter $$$….
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Maybe Reggie has to do some tinkering with some other out of whack contracts before he can offer Tollefson a market value deal?
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Yep…need to get Branch signed…. Cap room
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
“As Tollefson said, the ball’s in the Raiders’ court.”
No translation necessary.
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Problem is Titans can pay market +…they are Tollefson leverage and we are overextended…
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Such is this season…
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Tell Amy Trask to reach down deep in her purse for that loose change…c’mon girl, get it.
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Rockstar…..
RE: #95
That kid, What’s his name? From, South Eastern Bumphuq Podunk Tech. Is the pick….
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Why even waste time on this special teamer I thought Reggie was still looking for a starting Sam.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
HUGE BREAKING NEWS FROM CAMP BEEECH DAWG
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So, in an effort to capitalize on this totally sweet trend, let me introduce my brand new boy band:
2 KOOL 4 SKOOL
I’m currently auditioning for 4 fellow members and plan on mostly stealing jams from Boyz 2 Men.
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There is also a once in a lifetime investment opportunity for blog nerds, stay tuned for details …
YO DON’T BLINK, IT’S THE NEW N’SYNC
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Why even waste time on this special teamer I thought Reggie was still looking for a starting Sam
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See Wheeler signing in case you just awoke from a coma…
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
The Oracle Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Tell Amy Trask to reach down deep in her purse for that loose change…c’mon girl, get it.
Now that’s effin funny, thanx for the laugh
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Kind of funny, Corkran acting like he’s Jay effing Glazer. With his Tollefson “ball in the Raiders court.” scoopage….
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
THE BLACKHOLE Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Why even waste time on this special teamer I thought Reggie was still looking for a starting Sam.
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Don’t listen to Cork…Tollefson is in Alameda for more than a ST visit
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Maybe he left without a contract because we say something we didn’t like? Something in the physical or otherwise?
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
saw
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I’m wondering if the Raiders are aware of someone signing Bryant, and giving the Raiders their 2nd round draft choice, Tollefson to be Bryant’s replacement.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
#14
Go ahead and make that paper, but come on man, talking boy bands on a Raider blog? Ain’t right unless your looking to sign Mcclain as your lead singer to get him off our team!
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Mike Goodson has got some Good separation between his two front teeth!!
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I gathered from the chat that Corkran does talk to Tollefson directly; you figure he’s gotta have at least one or two connections.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I’m wondering if the Raiders are aware of someone signing Bryant, and giving the Raiders their 2nd round draft choice, Tollefson to be Bryant’s replacement.
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Now there’s something interesting to consider. Especially knowing how Reggie likes his draft picks.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
TheGreatness Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
#14
Go ahead and make that paper, but come on man, talking boy bands on a Raider blog? Ain’t right unless your looking to sign Mcclain as your lead singer to get him off our team!
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Everyone on the blog knows the Beeech Dawg is a multi-platinum musical genius.
My revolutionary new boy band, 2 Kool 4 Skool, is the next step in my evolution. And it’ll probably get my nob slobbed by more 18 year old babes.
I will be holding auditions over the next few weeks for 4 additional members, who will be filling the “shy”, “nice”, “baby” and “loser” roles.
I’ll be handling the classic “handsome stud with large pee pee” position.
Investment opportunity details to come …
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I wonder how Tollefson will feel if Bryant is signed in Tennessee before he gets a chance to visit them.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
26..lol
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
JFB, sometimes I come up with serious forethought, thanks.
I actually hope that Reggie signs Tollefson and resigns Bryant.
Raiders once again would have one of the best DLs in the NFL.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
@ RaiderRockstar: #95
Whitney Mercilus (Illinois)
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
100.No Mas Diamante Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Heck, seems Adrian Peterson has been hurt as much as Dmac and no one ever call him injury prone.
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It’s because Adrian Peterson has been injured and unable to play a total of 7 games in his FIVE yr. career and DMAC has been injured and unable to play for NINETEEN (19) games in his FOUR yr. career.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Tollefson would not be a bad add and increases the depth at DE, but if the talk of going with a 3-4 at least part time is true we still need a beast NT. Hell, find Sands, wheel him out on a hand truck and plant him in the middle. Be like my permanent low post in b-ball. Kinda. Gotta go around him to get there. And it’s a long way around.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Just re-read my post. May have hit the bar too early today, but to buzzed to care.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Area Man, you made me laugh, that’s good enough in here.
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
[...] with the New York Giants, playing a pivotal role in their winning two Super Bowl titles. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Just watched the “State of the Raiders” on NFL Network. Pretty clear that neither analyst had done a shred of research. Don’t waste your time.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
as did i, i hope this coaching staff finally pulls the players head out of their you know whats. SICK AND TIRED of cheering on a gimmick after though of a team.
cant wait until the raiders return to glory and we fans can hear analysts say how they knew it all along
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Ed, the talking heads don’t even realize that AD has passed and there is a new regime. Those that know, do. Those that know nothing just talk.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
5 for 5 in signing below average talent? lol….
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
5 for 5 in signing below average talent? lol….
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As opposed to Stanford “Toast” Routt, Kamerion “3 sacks in 15 games” Wimbley and “Concussion Man” Kevin Boss?
I like RM’s signings better.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Al was the Raiders. He had success early in his tenure and then became a tired joke.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Once they get Tyvon signed we will have more cap space whats the hold up?
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
do you really think routt was manhandled by calvin johnson? wait till you see these never have-beens signed to play cb….
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Twocents Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Al was the Raiders. He had success early in his tenure and then became a tired joke.
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There are still some posters here who don’t understand that. They don’t get that Al’s tenure once the Reagan Administration ended was mostly disastrous.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
do you really think routt was manhandled by calvin johnson? wait till you see these never have-beens signed to play cb….
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We’re running zones now. Relax.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I like Al as an owner but as far as his GM skills were concerned, I wonder even if he got too much credit for the winning years. Ron Wolf never lost, even in the ’90s, when he won another Super Bowl in Green Bay. How good can a GM really be when they go years without winning? This is like Geoff Petrie in Sacramento. He’s supposed to be this big genius. Yet the Kings fell apart after Adelman left. Adelman, btw, wins wherever he goes. You tell me. Al Davis was awesome as an owner. As a GM, I think that’s where his sinister side comes out. He took a lot of credit for a winning era that Ron Wolf is more responsible for than him. And Wolf is hardly mentioned in Raiders’ folklore. I did a search on him once at Raiders.com and all that turned up was a mention of him by a former player in one of those ‘where are they now’ pieces. Nothing from the Raiders’ organization on Ron Wolf. That’s pathetic.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
raiderduck if you do not realize the sucess in recent drafts with moore,branch,heywardbey,lil wiz,seabass,dmac,houston,veldeer,reece, you must be rm brother.if you do not remember gruden teams went 8-8 3 years in a row before they broke thru.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Success?
We haven’t had a winning season since 2002. Just what is your definition of success, Chuck?
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
47.chuck Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
raiderduck if you do not realize the sucess in recent drafts with moore,branch,heywardbey,lil wiz,seabass,dmac,houston,veldeer,reece, you must be rm brother.if you do not remember gruden teams went 8-8 3 years in a row before they broke thru.
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Actually they went TWO straight 8-8.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
chuck Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
raiderduck if you do not realize the sucess in recent drafts with moore,branch,heywardbey,lil wiz,seabass,dmac,houston,veldeer,reece, you must be rm brother.if you do not remember gruden teams went 8-8 3 years in a row before they broke thru.
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Yes, I remember those players. I also remember a much bigger number who didn’t do so well (starting with JaPaycheck).
I remember his chasing good HC candidates away with his ridiculous demands. Why would someone with ANY OTHER OPTIONS take an HC job where the entire defensive scheme is dictated from above, as are the weekly starters and your active/inactive list.
I remember his throwing mismatched players together and demanding his coaching staffs work it out. This is how we end up with a defensive line populated almost solely with 3-techniques.
And I remember how his hand-picked coach Hue Jackson presided over the worst-disciplined squad in NFL history.
I’m glad Reggie’s in charge now, and glad he is putting together a modern NFL organization that’s actually run sanely.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Can Tollefson longsnap?
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Trade Darren McFranc!
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Can Tollefson longsnap?
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Who cares? We’ve got Condo for that.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Ron Wolf was/is a genius. But he doesn’t deserve credit for just the Raiders…Folks up in GB should be thanking their lucky stars that he came to the Northwoods and saved their franchise too.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I didn’t know that DMOE attended Camp Palmer also…
http://twitter.com/#!/FrankyMurdock/status/183251317681160192/photo/1
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Gruden inherited a 4-12 team with Jeff George as QB, only one real WR with hands, a talented yet hit and miss RB, and a defense whose lone star had been Chester McGlockton. I’m surprised it took him only 3 years to get a 12 win season. Just goes further to back up praise of Gruden.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Condo is a menace to victory.
Eat reality.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Remember a newspaper article way back in ‘94 quoting a Chiefs defensive player after they beat us, “everyone knows all you have to do is stop Harvey and Tim”.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Condo is a menace to victory.
Eat reality.
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Really? Point to any botched snaps Condo’s made. I can’t remember any.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Say what you want about uncle Al. He is the reason I am a Raider fan. And I am sure I am not the only one.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Can’t play a real position…look up Adam Treu.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Can’t play a real position…look up Adam Treu.
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LOTS of teams have dedicated Long Snapper. No big deal.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Al discovered Gruden and took him out too.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
36.edward teach Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Just watched the “State of the Raiders” on NFL Network. Pretty clear that neither analyst had done a shred of research. Don’t waste your time.
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Thanks Ed. I was gonna ask about that.
Even WalterFootball has their analysis all screwed up in regard to the Raiders.
U wanna pick them #26 in your power rankings? Fine, but don’t tell me it’s becuz of the ‘new defensive schemes’ we’ll be implementing and the fact we’ve let go so many key players on a defense that was the worst since the ‘52 Texans. They also cite that we have a new HC.
Some would say it’s for those reasons we’ll actually be good.
Most ALL analysts(nationally)don’t even realize how bad our D was.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Lots of teams = Castro
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Lots of teams = Castro
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So you’re saying that someone is a communist dictator because they do what somebody else does? Whatever.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Stanford Routt gave up 8 touchdowns last year and had over 10 per cent of the team’s (record number) of penalties all by himself. He was one of the league’s highest paid cornerbacks. What makes those stats even more unbelievably bad is that, whether we had a rookie or a journeyman on the other side, opposing QBs targeted him anyway.
I am astonished that anyone would think that cutting him was a bad idea.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
This is what NFLN (thinks)it knows about the 2012 Raiders:
-New GM
-New HC
-They still think Seymour is a total stud.
-We’ll never recover from Aso.
-We lost Routt.
-We won’t be as good on defense cuz of losing so many “key” players.
-Carson Palmer is a ?
-Lots of penalties.
-No M. Bush (hurts us immensely in their opinion).
They don’t know anything about the Raiders really.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Looks like Reg is building this thing like restoring a car. From the inside out. Might not be bright and shiny on the outside but it will run like a striped azz ape on the inside!!!
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Lol post #11 that’s funny.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
r8der mike…al wanted to win more than any of these fools…
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Negative preseason prognostications by the media never bother me. There are two possibilities:
1) We’ll be way better, in which case nobody will remember the prediction, or
2) We won’t, in which case the prediction was accurate and what’s there to get mad about?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
r8der mike…al wanted to win more than any of these fools…
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He did a cruddy job of it during the last two decades of his life…
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
63.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Al discovered Gruden and took him out too.
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Well Gruden was looking for another job with Notre Dame and others and how could he pass up getting:
-Tampa’s 1st and 2nd rounders in 2003
…as well as:
-Tampas 1st and 2nd rounders in 2004
PLUS
-$8 million in cash.
FOR A COACH.
Thats hard to pass up, especially for a HC who didn’t wanna be there anymore anyway.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
True duck but Al was and will always be the Raiders.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I hope reggie does good but I do not have much faith in the knapp hiring the offense was not the problem.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Yeah, Bo, Al really took Gruden out in Super Bowl 37.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
An offense that cannot score in the red zone is a big problem.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I can accept that Al was and always will be the Raiders. It’s just inaccurate to say that his personnel decisions are primarily to credit for the Raiders’ success in the ’70s and ’80s.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
True duck but Al was and will always be the Raiders.
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Correct, in the same way that Red Auerbach will always be the Celtics. But Auerbach didn’t keep running the team long past his prime, either. Ditto with Tommy Lasorda and the Dodgers.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Bo, I just logically concluded who you are; you’re ex-Mrs. Condo.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Al was and always will be the Raiders, but the fact that he gave Ron Wolf almost no credit for the Raiders 3 Super Bowl victories means he lacked a lot of class, too. Then again, class isn’t that important to many of his vehement supporters, anyway. So I guess it is what it is.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RaiderDuck,
The NFL Network piece wasn’t really positive or negative. It was just remarkably off-base. It was as if someone had asked you or me to talk about the state of the Bears with no notice. We could probably wing it, but even a casual Bears fan would be going “huh?’
That’s what the Raiders bit was like.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
60.R8ER MIKE Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Say what you want about uncle Al. He is the reason I am a Raider fan. And I am sure I am not the only one.
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Al created the whole Raider “thing” and encouraged and promoted the image and brand of the Raiders that so many people like myself fell in love with originally…also the winning.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
edward teach Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RaiderDuck,
The NFL Network piece wasn’t really positive or negative. It was just remarkably off-base. It was as if someone had asked you or me to talk about the state of the Bears with no notice. We could probably wing it, but even a casual Bears fan would be going “huh?’
That’s what the Raiders bit was like.
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Gotcha. In other words, they knew less than us.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
If the Raiders didn’t win football games, that Raider style and image would be sitting in the same drawer as your dad’s bell bottoms.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Agree. He went way past he prime. Some folks don’t know when to stop. But with his love for the silver and black he couldn’t stop. Like a fathers love for his children
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Sully, Al not only was the primary in player personnel for the Raiders in the 70’s and 80’s, he’s the one that told Pittsburgh to start Bradshaw over Gilliam and told jerry & jimmy to start Michael Irvin, and that’s from those two players!
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
#86,
True to that.
The winning in the late 60’s, 70’s and early 80’s solidified the “brand”.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
We’re going to have wait until the season starts to see what we have and I’m not saying we are a lock to win the division.
I am confident that it will be apparent to long time fans that we are headed in the right direction.
We won’t be a team that others look forward to playing.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
That being said, Raiderretribution, Ron Wolf won a Super Bowl in the ’90s. You don’t want to know what Al’s record was in the ’90s.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Life with a real GM.
We also have a real QB, a real head coach, and a real defensive coordinator.
It’s a new day in Raider Nation.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
When GB snapped Ron Wolf up it turned that whole franchise around quickly.
When u think about how much $ that guy is responsible for generating…
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Kirk Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Life with a real GM.
We also have a real QB, a real head coach, and a real defensive coordinator.
It’s a new day in Raider Nation.
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Agreed.
Palmer = First top-level QB since Gannon
Allen = First top-level HC since Gruden
Allen/Tarver = First independent defensive coaching since…Willie Shaw?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Go McFargas! Go Reggie!
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
When GB snapped Ron Wolf up it turned that whole franchise around quickly.
When u think about how much $ that guy is responsible for generating…
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Green Bay before Wolf was a moribund franchise living off the Lombardi glory years two decades earlier (as witnessed by their constant hiring of his former players to be mediocre HCs). Wolf turned that franchise into winners.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
When you go to a Super Bowl, you have to win. If you get beat, like the Raiders did against Tampa Bay, you are no better than the Bills or the Vikings. It makes me retch just thinking about it.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I don’t know why the Davis loyalists don’t just concede to the Ron Wolf argument. It’s a battle they’ve lost long ago. Some of these guys, their philosophy is to give up no ground, and to argue against any criticism of Al. Has to be exhausting.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Giving props to Wolf doesn’t have to take away from Al Davis.
We can look at Wolf and be proud he was a part of the organization.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Without Wolf, Al would have never won anything.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Agreed, Johnny. Except when Al was in charge, you couldn’t find anything about Ron Wolf at the Raiders’ official www. Still probably can’t. I haven’t been to the website in some time. I would love to see both Al and Ron share the credit, even if Ron probably does deserve a little more and has the more recent accolades to prove it. But Al’s circle doesn’t see it that way. They’d like Ron Wolf to be remembered as Al’s errand boy. So they deserve all they heat they get.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Agreed #99.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Stabler was a Wolf pick. Al never liked Stabler. Traded him for Pastorini, that is all you have to know.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
What a nasty bunch, Al’s inner circle. Ugh. I can only imagine what it must have been like to work for the Raiders in recent years. I’ll bet that Herrera incident was just the tip of the iceberg. Gannon said the chaos was so bad he doesn’t know how the team was able to stay focused. Hopefully Reggie is just cleaning them out like bathroom mold.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Dj I agree sir.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Twocents Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Stabler was a Wolf pick. Al never liked Stabler. Traded him for Pastorini, that is all you have to know.
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Any citations for this?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
So you say he wouldn’t! But the world will never know will they? Let’s go RM get a contract worked out some body got to Team Up! and take a restructure!
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Chargers sign Roscoe Parrish..Rivers kicks his dog….
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Twocents, have you read Pastorni’s book? Read some review of it, he takes aim at the Raiders and some women he bedded that eventually did him wrong. What a dork.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Sully was www. Around in the Ron Wolfe era?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Fairley the latest Lion to be arrested for weed…
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Twocents, have you read Pastorni’s book? Read some review of it, he takes aim at the Raiders and some women he bedded that eventually did him wrong. What a dork.
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Everything I’ve read of Pastorini suggests he’s a bitter ex-jock who can’t understand how lucky he was.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Citation that Al traded Stabler for Pastorni, which would pretty much indicate that Al thought Pastorini was better than Stabler? Sure, Duck. We’ll get you citation that your laptop screen is rectangular, too, if you want.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Citations?, citations?, I ain’t got to show you no stinking citations.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Who grabbed Plunkett off the couch?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
RaiderDuck, 1968, Al Davis drafted Eldridge Dickey, Qb in the first round. Kenny Stabler in the 2nd.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Mike, is that a serious question?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
All blog GM’s that were calling for Hawthorne to be signed..too late.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/231047/saints-continue-lb-overhaul-with-hawthorne
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Kenny Stabler left the team after a year of inactivity, and went back to Alabama..
He wasn’t the strong-armed QB that Al covets.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
…in the Name of Jesus Christ, demand that your are freed from the stronghold of Satan.-Aaron Curry
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Yeah Sully. Learn me something here.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I’VE BEEN THOROUGHLY OWNED!! lol.
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Sully was www. Around in the Ron Wolfe era?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
As a matter of fact, the last d-minded coach the Raiders had was John Madden.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Sounds like a quote from Pulp Fiction.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Citation that Al traded Stabler for Pastorni, which would pretty much indicate that Al thought Pastorini was better than Stabler? Sure, Duck. We’ll get you citation that your laptop screen is rectangular, too, if you want.
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Trading an over-the-hill Stabler for Pastorini is not the same thing as saying Stabler was a Ron Wolf pick and Al never wanted him. Two different things.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
That settles it. There was no internet around in the Ron Wolf era, so that explains why there wouldn’t have been anything about Ron Wolf on the team’s official website… back in the ’70s. I should have known my place and never crossed the line.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Owend?? What does that mean?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
So in the 70s you had a computer Sully? You one rich biotch
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Best part of the Raiders’ official website back in the ’70s was the Q&A with Madden, and Disco Talk with Skip Thomas.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 pm
And Ron Wolf resurected the Packer franchise, but move along folks, nothing to see here.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Kenny Stabler had a blog on the Raiders’ official website in the ’70s where he alerted fans to the cheapest beer prices in the East Bay.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Nude pictures of the cheerleaders were the best part of the Raiders official website in the ’70s. The full bushes were awesome.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Any man that can win a Super Bowl hungover, is a hero of mine.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
So in the 70s you had a computer Sully? You one rich biotch
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First time I ever used a computer was in the late 70s. Commodore PET.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Twocents Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Any man that can win a Super Bowl hungover, is a hero of mine.
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Didn’t that Packer TE win Super Bowl I with a splitting hangover headache or something? Max McGhee?
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Tandy, in the late ’80s. Dr. J vs. Larry Bird. All day long.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
erDuck Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Everything I’ve read of Pastorini suggests he’s a bitter ex-jock who can’t understand how lucky he was.
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Raider fans cheering the second they heard his leg snap, and then cheering all the more when he was wheeled off the field on a cart would make anyone hate the Raiders and Raider fans and be bitter.
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Alcohol hurt that Raider team, too. One of the reasons we lost to Denver in ‘77, besides horrible officiating, is that a Denver hotel employee saw Tooz and another player smashed at 3am, and tipped the Broncos off. They ran at Tooz all day.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
134.RaiderDuck Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
So in the 70s you had a computer Sully? You one rich biotch
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First time I ever used a computer was in the late 70s. Commodore PET.
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Tell us about your Intellivision and especially about the Poker & Blackjack, Math Fun, Armor Battle, and Backgammon games!
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
#5: I really don’t think another team would give us a #2 for Bryant.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
POST-137,THE WHOLE CHEERING THE INJURY,URBAN LEGEND..
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
The Oracle Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
134.RaiderDuck Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
So in the 70s you had a computer Sully? You one rich biotch
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First time I ever used a computer was in the late 70s. Commodore PET.
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Tell us about your Intellivision and especially about the Poker & Blackjack, Math Fun, Armor Battle, and Backgammon games!
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Never had Armor Battle or Math Fun.
Sub Hunt, Shark! Shark!, Burger Time and the D&D games were probably my favorites.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
EWstyle Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
#5: I really don’t think another team would give us a #2 for Bryant.
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Seriously doubt it. He’s a complete unknown outside Oakland.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Sullivan: I’ve been a Raider Fan from the beginning, lived in Santa Rosa(Raider Training Home) for years. You hit it right on the button Ron Wolf was a huge reason for the Raiders early success. Even later on if Al had swallowed his pride and asked him to comeback, there was no need for the Raiders to be in the shape they got themselves in. Actually it’s a little sad that it took Al’s death to bring Ron back into the fold with Mark asking Ron Wolf to help him hire a GM. I think most of you are going to be thrilled with the overall moves that Reggie makes from here forward. The Raiders are IMO headed for success.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
138.Sullivan44 Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Alcohol hurt that Raider team, too. One of the reasons we lost to Denver in ‘77, besides horrible officiating, is that a Denver hotel employee saw Tooz and another player smashed at 3am, and tipped the Broncos off. They ran at Tooz all day.
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That Denver game in 77 was the worst officiated game I have ever seen.
I really think there was some mob money on that game.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
EWstyle Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
#5: I really don’t think another team would give us a #2 for Bryant.
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Seriously doubt it. He’s a complete unknown outside Oakland.
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I will bet we would get a 3rd rounder for him. Desmond is really developing into a very nice player who can play a couple of positions on the Dline. And I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd rounder right now.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
I will bet we would get a 3rd rounder for him. Desmond is really developing into a very nice player who can play a couple of positions on the Dline. And I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd rounder right now.
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Not sure why some poster’s want to trade known comodities, for question marks.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:15 pm
fusion, Mark Davis going right to Ron Wolf is a profound statement as to Wolf’s impact on the Raiders’s success years ago.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Tollefson leaves Oakland without contract Free agent defensive lineman Dave Tollefson said he is on his way back home, to Omaha, Neb., pleased with the way his visit went with the Raiders today but without a contract in hand. Tollefson, 29, said he is hopeful of working out a contract with t… [...]
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
To some posters, every bird in the bush, looks like thanksgiving turkey.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 am
still awaiting votes for #95 pick
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This is a tough call. Mac brought in a fat guy to check out before the draft and openly expressed his thoughts about bringing in a solid LB.
I think he might have to trade up to get Chapman or Sammy Brown. I don’t think he will trade draft picks. Somebody might get traded to move up a few spots, I’m not sure who that would be.
I’m going out on a limb here….Put me down for Center Mike Brewster, Ohio ST.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Sully: between he and Madden, they’ve righted the ship. Now we’re going had working SOB’s who remind me of the Old Raiders–get blitzed on your own time just make sure you’re ready to strap it on and work when it’s time to go to work. Our ride is about to begin again, hang on tight everyone
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
A lot of people only know Madden as the t.v. personality and hate him. I lost count of how many plays he would correctly predict in games he was covering, I’m talking on first down, not obvious plays. “They’re going to run that play action to the tight end here”. And that’s what they’d run. Madden was sharp as hell. I give Davis credit for finding these guys, that’s for sure. But then he gutted the organization of them and tried to take credit.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
I know that Al was charismatic to some of you, you worship the image. But a cold, hard look at what he was in the last thirty years reveals a darker side that became all about Al and not so much about the Raiders.
To Al, he was the Raiders and it was all about him showing the rest of the league that he was smarter and better than they were. Unfortunately, he was fighting a battle that was lost long ago. Really kind of sad when your ego blinds you to reality.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
How auspicious to have Ron Wolf’s protege as our GM. It’s a beautiful thang!
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
And it took Mark no time at all, Kell. The minute he was handed the team, he gutted the organization of Al’s henchmen, including Hue Jackson, and hired a Ron Wolf guy. He only kept Amy Trask. Herrera? Gone.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I will say this about Al, he respected Madden and Wolf enough to tell his son to follow their advice.
Can’t understand why he didn’t listen to them when he was alive.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Yeah, Shows you what Mark thinks of Ron Wolf. He knows.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
He knew who to call
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Stabler was a Wolf pick. Al never liked Stabler.
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If this was true, why did Al later say that not keeping Stabler was one of his biggest mistakes he’d ever made?
This is crazy talk…
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Ron Wolf was a heck of a personnel man and played a vital role in building those great Raider teams of yesteryear.
But it’s revisionist history to claim he was the primary force driving the organization’s ascent to the top of the NFL.
Al Davis was the head honcho. No one else. Al micromanaged almost every facet. Nothing escaped his attention. His word was the final word. The buck stopped with Al.
If you’re going to blame him (rightfully so) for the failures of the Raiders since their last SB appearance, then you should credit him for the glory years before that.
I’m still a huge Raider fan – but it’s not the same without the old man.
Yes, it sure seemed like the game passed him by. How can an objective observer think otherwise ? Horrible free agent signings. Complete whiffs on a multitude of extremely high draft picks. A decade of utter futility.
Al became the laughingstock of the NFL.
Made me root even harder for him to turn things around.
Nothing would have been sweeter than to see the old renegade have the last laugh.
Some are convinced this could never happen. They’re relieved Al’s gone.
Hope the new regime can restore the Raiders to greatness.
But for this Raider fan, it just ain’t gonna be the same without the captain of the ship.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Al owning to it being “his” mistake would go further to support the argument that Al never wanted Stabler, would it not?
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Grog in 1968, Stabler was the Raiders 2nd QB drafted that year. He drafted the 1st Black QB ever drafted in the 1st round, Eldridge Dickey, Tennessee A&M.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
99….well said…..I agree.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Considering we haven’t had a winning season in a decade, I certainly hope things won’t be the same without Al. As far as football operations go.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Raidermann99, you’re right. It’s just that Al Davis hasn’t won without Ron Wolf, yet Ron Wolf has won without Al Davis.
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
I miss Al. He was interesting.
RIP AL.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Al owning to it being “his” mistake would go further to support the argument that Al never wanted Stabler, would it not?
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IIRC, the feud was most definitely mutual. Stabler holding out for a better contract was the final straw.
I think Stabler admitted it was a mistake too. In his book he said all he did was hand the damn ball off to Earl Campbell.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
If the Raiders can get back to winning, won’t that help Al’s legacy? The dysfunction and losing were certainly turning it into a pathetic joke. The brand is great, but goes stale pretty quick after there is winning to back it up. Now that Al has passed, we still have Raider history but we also have a future again, finally. The twitter age society and modern big business football make it impossible for anything like the 1970s Raiders to happen again anyway.
Ron Wolf certainly deserves a lot of credit for the Raiders success and it’s a shame that Al couldn’t give him some credit. He also did fairly well with Tampa Bay and I believe it was the Falcons, but nothing spectacular. Green Bay is his crowning legacy.
But Al certainly called the shots in Oakland, and for the first 20 years he was exceptional at football decisions and a groundbreaker in things ranging from race relations, taking on league power, building Raiders National following, etc.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I look at Al Davis as much of a cultural icon as football icon. As a assistant coach at USC in the late 50′, he organized a coaches strike against the PAC 8, to allow black officials in college ball. A successful strike, btw.
He certainly fit in the East Bay in the 60’s 70’s, culturally.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
“Pity the student who does not surpass his master.”
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Former NFL general manager Ron Wolf worked under Davis twice during his career. He felt honored to have worked for a man like Davis.
In an earlier interview this author had with Wolf, he elaborated.
“I think that I was blessed with [working for Davis] because he was energetic…so smart,” recalled Wolf.
“In those days, if you were in a pro football operation, you ran the operation entirely from a business sense and from a coaching sense. He had that capability.
We are talking about George Halas’, Paul Brown’s, people of that ilk who could do that and Al was in that vein. The same vein.
Brilliant man. He took the time to train me.
I am very, very fortunate to have been under his tutelage.”
Davis influenced Wolf.
“I think that most of how I did things was a result of working for Al Davis,” Wolf said.
“There were several things I would never incorporate or operate the way he did because my personality is not like his, but as far as learning work ethic and certainly the evaluation process, that would be all Al Davis.”
“Can you imagine having an opportunity to learn from a legendary figure such as Al Davis? This was my good fortune to say the least.
He taught me every aspect of pro football from an organizational standpoint, scouting & personnel, signing, building a team, etc.”.
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What else is there to say?.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Al Davis and that crook from Vegas he was tied to in investigations, I forget his name, built Eastmont Mall. Lol.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Nice post, Marley. The Karma of having Reggie Mckenzie now is powerful.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
What else is there to say? Ron Wolf won a Super Bowl without a shred of help from Al Davis. Al Davis never won a Super Bowl without any help from Ron Wolf. Ron Wolf is a class guy so of course he’s going to praise the owner that gave him his first shot. If Wolf told the truth, which is probably that Al was a pain in the ass who constantly got in the way of he and the other scouts that knew what they were doing, you guys would be calling him classless, vindictive, etc. Wolf’s a smart man who knew not to burn his bridges.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Claiborne scored the lowest ever Wonderlic score…He scored a 4 out of 50….. He still can ball better than most but wow that seems low.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Raiders bringing in Washington State linebacker Alex Hoffman-Ellis to come work out….Any1 know anything about this guy
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
“12/04/11 – 2011 ALL-PAC-12 CONFERENCE SECOND TEAM (COACHES): LB Alex Hoffman-Ellis, Sr., Washington State, has been selected All-Pac-12 Second Team for the 2011 college football season as selected by the Pac-12 head football coaches. Hoffman-Ellis caps his WSU career with his first all-conference selection after posting a team-high 88 tackles, good for seventh in the conference which included a conference-leading 68 solo stops in his 12 starts. The Los Angeles native finished with 11 tackles-for-loss, a pair of sacks and one interception he returned for a touchdown. – Washington State football” —-NFL DRAFT SCOUT
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I’ve been criticizing Al Davis for about 7 years. saying he’s past his prime, selfish, hasn’t won in decades, Wishing he would train someone and retire, the nutty contracts, no long term thinking at age 82, etc.
Got lots of hate from people, who are now essentially agreeing with me.
Have I heard any apologies, you were right Kell, Atta boy Kell?
Hell No.
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
We all love ya Uncle Kell
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Lol.
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Eat sh!t Kell.
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KoolKell Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Got lots of hate from people, who are now essentially agreeing with me.
Have I heard any apologies, you were right Kell, Atta boy Kell?
Hell No.
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Damn Tollefson left without a contracto.
I guess years in NY taught him to be cut throat and contract savvy.
A dude like him could help us spell Kelly and Seymore; keep em’ sharp for the 4th quarter. Ahh the 4th quarter, where our defense had its legendary meltdowns.
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Why dont the Lakers like having the lead?
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Raiderman #161,
I agree with you and couldn’t have said it better! Thanks for your insight.
I love the Raiders and an very excited about Reggie leading us in a new direction but will miss Al very much, yeah he didn’t do so well towards the end but no one can doubt that all he truly cared about was “the greatness of the Raiders”
If he had only allowed coaches to have power he would’ve won plenty towards the end. Every owner/GM botches 1 st round picks/ its a crap shoot!
I’m excited for the new Reggime, but never lost respect for Al.
Raider On! Code Black! Oh don’t you know it, with sirens and lights!!!
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
MR or Sullivan.
Long time no see.
Man Al Davis is dead, yet your obsession remains or are you just a troll? what was it?…anyway, you are a sad man.
But just for old times sake, here we go:
- MR says: “Ron Wolf won a Super Bowl without a shred of help from Al Davis. Al Davis never won a Super Bowl without any help from Ron Wolf.”
Yeah nobody is arguing that Ron Wolf surpassed Davis as a GM over the past 20 years, give it a rest, you’ve only said it a million times.
- MR says: “Ron Wolf is a class guy so of course he’s going to praise the owner that gave him his first shot.”
- Uhm, his first shot? as Wolf has said, it was much more than his “first shot”:
“I think that most of how I did things was a result of working for Al Davis,” Wolf said. “He taught me every aspect of pro football from an organizational standpoint, scouting & personnel, signing, building a team, etc.”.
- MR says: “If Wolf told the truth, which is probably that Al was a pain in the ass who constantly got in the way of he and the other scouts that knew what they were doing.”
I’m guessing you have met Ron Wolf and spoken to him about what it was really like for him down in Oakland, right?.
I’m sure he opened his heart out to you and explained why, if it was such a bad situation working for Al Davis, he came right back and took the same job after Tampa Bay fired him in the late 70’s, right?.
I mean the football world must have known those Raider teams were all Wolf, how could they have missed that?.
You’d think that most teams would have jumped at the chance to hire the guy who built those great teams, right? … so share with us, why did he choose to go back to work for Davis?.
Go away loser.
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 pm
I’ll post more on the Davis-Wolf relationship, it’s an interesting story, I think.
I’ve posted some of this before, specially the Gene Upshaw story but I see many new people here so I’m gonna do it again, just because I love that story and it shows a glimpse of how Davis-Wolf interacted.
On how Wolf joined the Raiders:
“Wolf had just finished final exams at the University of Oklahoma in 1963 when Davis called him with a job offer out of the blue.
The editor of “Pro Football Illustrated” (now “Pro Football Weekly”) happened to be in Northern California attending a wedding when Davis became the Raiders’ coach and GM, so he went to Oakland to interview Davis about the new jobs.
During their conversation, Davis said he needed an assistant scout who was good at remembering names, and the editor recommended Wolf, who had worked at “Pro Football Illustrated” the year before.
Wolf jumped at the chance to break into pro football but had never scouted, so he learned by spending hours watching game film with Davis and his four-man coaching staff.
The AFL at the time had only eight teams and 33 players per team, so they’d watch everyone and rank each player by position.
“It was right in front of you, they were showing it on film,” Wolf said.
“’This guy’s the best, and this guy’s the worst,’ why he’s the best and why he’s the worst. And Al did everything by comparison, he was a big comparison guy. He’d take the left tackles, and go one through eight in the AFL. You could see how they fell in and why a guy was really good and you could also see why a guy was really bad.”
Wolf said Davis also pushed him hard, was a stickler for thoroughness in written reports and challenged his conclusions.
Scouts who worked for Wolf likewise say he set high standards for effort, put them on the spot to defend their stances, and was attentive to detail, including intolerant of grammatical and typographical errors in reports.
“(Davis) was very demanding,” Wolf said.
“But he also let you do your thing. He could not stand a haphazard report or a haphazard attempt to do something. It was either all or nothing, and you learned how to do it that way to please him.
You’d try to go over everything with him when you had a situation, try to explain to him, and invariably he’d ask the one question you never thought of. He was a genius.”
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Some are convinced this could never happen. They’re relieved Al’s gone.
Hope the new regime can restore the Raiders to greatness.
But for this Raider fan, it just ain’t gonna be the same without the captain of the ship.
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Well said and bravo. Luckily Al left the ship in pretty good shape. A lot of Al-haters will try and pretend the coming success will have nothing to do with Al, but at least for a few years, with the exception of CP (THANK YOU HUE!) it will be done with almost ALL of Al’s players.
He left a TON of good young talent for the new regime to mold, plus some key veterans to help them do it.
Anybody begging for props saying what a crappy job Al did is not gonna get anything from me besides GTH!
And here’s a dollar… try to buy yourself some CLASS… and yes, I am looking at you “KoolKell.”
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 pm
http://www.nfl.com/photos/09000d5d8280d850?module=HP11_hot_topics#id:09000d5d8280d96b
I think the new uniforms are as butt assed ugly as ugly assed butt. And that is just plain butt ugly.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Wolf wouldn’t have said what he said about Al Davis if he didn’t mean it.
I would like to see what happens if someone approached Ron Wolf TODAY and told him to his face that he’s lying about any praise for Al Davis and see what happens. Al is gone so Ron doesn’t have to worry about any of Al’s “goons” coming after him for telling the truth.
While you’re at it, go tell Mike Lombardi he’s lying when he says that he and Belichik “stole” many of the ideas they brought to Cleveland with them from who? Al Davis and tell him he’s a liar.
It is possible to appreciate what Ron Wolf did for the Raiders and at the same time not have to disparage Al Davis.
Getting your team TO the SB is no small task. If Al was such a total incompetant loser how did he do that without Ron Wolf? I know, it was Gruden…Al had nothing to do with it.
Wolf has no reason to be scared to tell the truth about Al Davis.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Interesting how some people will start a conversation about Al Davis, you respond, and they accuse you of being “obsessed” with him. People like “MarleyBob” are more obsessed with Al Davis and promoting their delusional god-like image of him than I could ever be.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
post 171,185, Well said, sorry to say, mr, mrs, sully, they dont care, wont listen to reason, they hate Mr Davis, period. Bob, look forward to some more pre draft info from You, Raiders!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Big Foot says Raidahs 1st pick will be Tyrone Crawford. As I’ve tromped all over the Cascades, I’ve seen him play at Boise State from the mountain tops. Dude is a must, not a bust.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Hey, Wolf admired Al Davis. I’m not denying it. Still doesn’t change the facts. Despite Wolf’s lip service to Al, the man has won without Al. Al only won consistently without Wolf when he had Gruden. Al Davis never won without Gruden or Wolf, at the end of the day. Both Gruden and Wolf went on to win Super Bowls without a shred of help from Al. Honestly, I’ve been trying to show Al some respect since he died, but people like this Marley character make it impossible. As long as he’s calling me out directly with his long winded posts and doing it in the name of defending Al, as if Al Davis saved the freakin’ planet or something, I’m taking the gloves off and letting that P.O.S. and his bloated perception of Al Davis have it.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Lol. Ah yeah.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Al ‘Coach’ Davis is a legend. Period.
http://www.raiders.com/history/al-davis.html
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Here’s Ron Wolf sharing how Gene Upshaw became a Raider:
“Wolf admitted in a 2008 interview that he didn’t want Oakland to draft Upshaw in 1967.
Upshaw was Davis’ guy.
But like war rooms can be, the two men made cases for their guys — Davis for Upshaw, Wolf for Arkansas halfback Harry Jones.
Recalled Wolf to Sports Illustrated’s Paul Zimmerman of the pick:
“We argued right up to the start of the draft, into the first round, actually.
Finally Al threw his hands up and said, ‘All right, dammit, you win.
Call Harry Jones and alert him. Use the phone in the hall.’ I went out to the hall phone.
We had a radio hookup to draft headquarters in New York that day, with a loud speaker, and I could hear Pete Rozelle announcing the first-round selections.
So I looked up Jones’ number, and while I was dialing, I heard Rozelle on the loud speaker, ‘In the first round, the Oakland Raiders select Eugene Upshaw, guard, Texas A&I.’”
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That story shows how closely they worked together and what a solid friendship they shared, I mean, Al had to fool Wolf to get him out of the room and then called himself and made the pick before Wolf could make the call, clearly Davis respected Wolf enough not to tell him: shut up about Jones, I’m taking Upshaw and that’s it.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Al ‘Coach” Davis has done more for the NFL than the NFL.
http://www.raiders.com/history/al-davis.html
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Hey Marley, Al Davis was nothing more than an NFL owner who succeeded early in his career yet struggled late in it. Al was also a compulsive liar and was outright cruel to some of his players and coaching stuff. The world would have survived and been just fine even if Al Davis were never born, so f*** you and him!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
It’s very likely that Ron Wolf, John Madden and Jon Gruden would have been successful in the NFL even if Al Davis had never been born.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
As long as he’s calling me out directly with his long winded posts and doing it in the name of defending Al, as if Al Davis saved the freakin’ planet or something, I’m taking the gloves off and letting that P.O.S. and his bloated perception of Al Davis have it.
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Don’t you have some politics or NBA to go on and on and on like a narcissistic child.. instead?
Do you even HAVE a life outside this forum?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Hey Marley, Al Davis was nothing more than an NFL owner who succeeded early in his career yet struggled late in it. Al was also a compulsive liar and was outright cruel to some of his players and coaching stuff. The world would have survived and been just fine even if Al Davis were never born, so f*** you and him!.
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Oh oh, looks like MR is about to have another meltdown, just as he always does when his sad, tired little act gets exposed.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Marley, don’t you think that you need to,er..recognize, that I was right and you were wrong in diagnosing the Raider’s, problems over the years?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
193, Yawn, my money is on Bob, a real Raider Fan!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Al Davis was great!
Ron Wolf was great!
Together and separately!
STFU already! They both deserve praise and criticism independently!
Sorry but I’ve heard enough of this argument!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Alright…. Sullivan has taken over his sand box… time for him to break all the toys and throw sand at anyone he can bully (while pretending to be an adult.)
I, again, am out until the next thread…
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Raiders must resign Bryant, he is our best all around defensive lineman. Never said we should trade him, I was just speculating as he and Tollefson are of the same mold. Hopefully we sign and keep both.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Marley, thanks for admitting that you were only trying to agitate me all along. Now who’s the troll?
Yeah, you got my attention. Anyone calls me out in some long winded bitcchfest is going to get a response. I’m only human.
First you accuse me of being obsessed with Al Davis, when I’d only responded to a conversation already taking place about him. Even funnier that you accuse me of being obsessed with him when you clearly worship him like he’s a god. You tell me who’s obsessed.
Then you imply I’m some kind of troll. But tell me, how are you contributing to the football discussion when you just basically admitted that you were trying to agitate me, hoping for a response?
You’re a troll, Marley, and you’re more obsessed with Al Davis than anyone in here.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Ark raider, are you the fk’n moderator?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Interesting how some people will start a conversation about Al Davis, you respond, and they accuse you of being “obsessed” with him. People like “MarleyBob” are more obsessed with Al Davis and promoting their delusional god-like image of him than I could ever be.
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Dude, I’m always posting about our current team, coaches, players, the draft and free agents.
Al Davis cannot improve or weaken this team anymore, he’s a topic for trolls and insane freaks such as yourself.
That being said, we’ll never forget Al and the Raiders will always be his team, but he’s not here anymore.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Marley, there was a discussion going on about Al Davis before I’d even arrived. So just stfu.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Marley,
The Raiders are Mark Davis’s team. And he canned all of Al’s guys right away, including Herrera. Guess he’s about as obsessed with Al Davis as I am. haha
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
So we can only speak about the 95# pick?
I wonder how the blog Libertarians feel about that?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Marley, thanks for admitting that you were only trying to agitate me all along. Now who’s the troll?
Yeah, you got my attention. Anyone calls me out in some long winded bitcchfest is going to get a response. I’m only human.
First you accuse me of being obsessed with Al Davis, when I’d only responded to a conversation already taking place about him. Even funnier that you accuse me of being obsessed with him when you clearly worship him like he’s a god. You tell me who’s obsessed.
Then you imply I’m some kind of troll. But tell me, how are you contributing to the football discussion when you just basically admitted that you were trying to agitate me, hoping for a response?
You’re a troll, Marley, and you’re more obsessed with Al Davis than anyone in here.
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What the hell are you talking about?.
Just admit you have nothing left to say.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
And please try to tell me Herrera “resigned”, so I can laugh my ass off!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm
- MR says: “Ron Wolf won a Super Bowl without a shred of help from Al Davis. Al Davis never won a Super Bowl without any help from Ron Wolf.”
Yeah nobody is arguing that Ron Wolf surpassed Davis as a GM over the past 20 years, give it a rest, you’ve only said it a million times.
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I might argue that. Tho we will never know, it is possible that Davis actually did a better job of drafting players than Wolf even til the end. What is undeniable is Wolf did a better job of having a structure to develop the players he drafted. That is what is undeniable.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Mark Davis is the Raiders, and the Raiders are Mark Davis! How about that?
Don’t believe me? Try finding John Herrera in the building, Marley.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 pm
“The world would have survived and been just fine even if Al Davis were never born.”
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But..we wouldn’t have had the Raiders as we know it.
I think you were misconstrued when u said Wolf won without a shred of help from Al.
I took it you were saying Wolf went to GB and worked his magic to turn around a dormant franchise which was living in the past…in GB and did it without Al Davis.
If you’re saying Ron Wolf was great in his own right with or without AL Davis I think you’re right.
Did Wolf learn some things from Al that may have helped him in achieving the greatness he did in GB? It doesn’t take away from the genius of Wolf. We all learn something from others and it doesn’t detract from our own achievements.
I think Wolf was a genius. Al picked the right guy to help him win 3 SB’s in 7 yrs. I don’t think it should detract from Al’s “legacy” the fact he had a great mind working for and with him to accomplish that.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Bob, #202 ?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
Marley, don’t you think that you need to,er..recognize, that I was right and you were wrong in diagnosing the Raider’s, problems over the years?.
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Old man, I’m sorry but I don’t recall you diagnosing much of anything,you know on-field stuff, player acquisition stuff, schemes, etc.
Stuff like: “I like Campbell”, doesn’t count.
I will acknowledge that you have led the blog in complaining about almost anything and posting our record since what was it, 1988?.
But seriously Kell, as one of the few people here who actaully likes you, I’m glad to see you excited about the future.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Yeah, Kell. Marley loves to go back and burn people on things they said years ago. I’d love to see some of his sunshine blowing pom pom comments back in the day about how things were going to work out under Cable. And, you said it, Kell. He was wrong. You were right. But he wont’ give you one shred of credit. He’ll just tell you you’re obsessed with Al Davis. Then when you respond he’ll say, “you’re having a meltdown! Gotcha”. What freaking a hole.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Mark Davis is the Raiders, and the Raiders are Mark Davis! How about that?
Don’t believe me? Try finding John Herrera in the building, Marley.
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LOL.
I forgot you have a weird thing for John Herrera too.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Then when you respond he’ll say, “you’re having a meltdown! Gotcha”. What freaking a hole.
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You are melting down. He’s right about that..
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
What did I tell you, Kell.
Marley comes out and insults you personally, calling you “old man”, when you didn’t even insult him. And watch. As soon as you respond, he’ll pull out his, “haha, you’re having a meltdown”. Jesus H. Christ. You tell me who the troll is in here tonight.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Bob,
Clearly Mark Davis had the same weird thing for Al and Herrera that I had. Tell me he didn’t gut the organization the first off-season after taking over?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
According to Seymour and Marley, if you respond to any comment, it’s melt-down. What a couple of idiots.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
I’ll say this, most of the dipstick Packer fans have no idea who Ron Wolf is, as they consider it their God given right to have a championship caliber football team and that somehow it was Vince Lombardi’s ghost who returned the team to greatness.
Wolf has flown under the radar as to his contributions to the franchises he’s served. It’s good to give him his props.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
You never heard me say any thing about player acquisition?
C’mon Man. I was at Frank Youell Field when Al Davis was HC, sonny boy.
Yeah , I posted records and other numbers, you know, facts?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Yeah, Kell. Marley loves to go back and burn people on things they said years ago.
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Dude, I’ve said plenty of stupid stuff, we all have.
That’s why we’re fans, we’ll buy the hype and hope some unknown, undrafted FA is gonna turn into a Pro-Bowl player.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Good point, Johnny. Any Green Bay fan who doesn’t know of Ron Wolf and his contributions to their success are as stupid as Bob Marley.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
You never heard me say any thing about player acquisition? C’mon Man. I was at Frank Youell Field when Al Davis was HC, sonny boy.
Yeah , I posted records and other numbers, you know, facts?.
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I know you were and I find it really cool, that’s why I treat you with respect old man, but what do you want me to say?.
Oh and please acknowledege MR, I think he’s looking for your help.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
I just find it ironic Bob, that I’ m hearing all the Davis people, echoing what some of us critics have said for years.
You know, you “on-field” experts?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Krappy, what are you doing on the blog way past your bed time begging for someone to pat you on the head?
All you get credit for on the blog is whining about Al Davis and running and hiding when you get bagged on.
Such a confused old fool, so funny!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
I just find it ironic Bob, that I’ m hearing all the Davis people, echoing what some of us critics have said for years.
You know, you “on-field” experts?
And Bob, It’s pretty obvious that, I’m not overly-worried about who likes me on this blog.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
I just find it ironic Bob, that I’ m hearing all the Davis people, echoing what some of us critics have said for years.
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Like what? give some examples buddy.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Krappy, of course you worry about who likes you on the blog. Remember, you think of yourself as a “blog personality”?
The hits just keep comin’!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I’ve been criticizing Al Davis for about 7 years. saying he’s past his prime, selfish, hasn’t won in decades, Wishing he would train someone and retire, the nutty contracts, no long term thinking at age 82, etc.
Got lots of hate from people, who are now essentially agreeing with me. Have I heard any apologies, you were right Kell, Atta boy Kell? Hell No.
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Kell, If Al Davis had lived through the entire NFL season last year, the Raiders would have won the AFC West. That wack a** defensive scheme that lost us game after game would have never been allowed under Al’s watch.
Kell, you FAIL! Now get off Al’s nut sack and let us watch Reggie build this team!
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Most GB fans are straight up psycho. They cry when they lose. It’s a fact that domestic violence cases go up 40% in the State of Wisconsin after a Packers loss.
I remember being at my sisters cabin in Wisconsin Rapids and going to the grocery store after GB lost a REGULAR SEASON game and this old lady..i’d say around 80 or so, was literally crying about the game and lowered her head on the conveyor belt at the checkout and was sobbing uncontrollably and people were patting her on the back telling her it was gonna be all right and I whispered to her not to worry I was sure they’d win next week.
She hugged me and thanked me “so much” for saying that.
That is a true story.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
And Bob, It’s pretty obvious that, I’m not overly-worried about who likes me on this blog.
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Lol, I know, another reason you’re ok on my book old fella, I’m not looking for your sympathy either.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Yeah, considering the previous 8 seasons, you have to believe the Raiders would have won the division if Al were in charge the duration of last year.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Krappy, did you beg the Chamber of Commerce for praise after you drove your shiny cool Corvette in the town parade?
Bet they regret the day they ever agreed to that one!
Awesome
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Green Bay needs to be buried in a massive blizzard.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Ah everybody’s here now
If Al Davis had lived till”………………….they would, what?
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
No Foolivan-
Considering that despite having the worst defense I’ve seen in decades, we came with in one game of winning the division.
I’m convinced that that infamous ONE STOP that we needed from our defense in multiple games last year, would have been achieved with Al Davis running the defense, instead of Bresnehan doing his own thing…
I’m not talking about 8 seasons ago. I’m talking about LAST SEASON. But I’m sure the logic of that eludes you once again.
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Yo, speaking of my new boy band 2 Kool 4 Skool, just had auditions and think I’ve got the “shy” part booked.
The delivery guy from Little Caesar’s fit the bill, just gotta get homie to pout more and shop at Abercrombie & Fitch
Bout to stack that cheese, you know what time it is
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
No Kell, I’m no moderator just someone who’s tired of this current blog brawl over whether Ron Wolf or Al Davis were great or horrible separately or together.
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Armchair pootbutt, the Raiders lost 4 of their last 5, FYI.
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Clarence Kell Thomas-
Those last 4 out of 5 games they lost were done with someone OTHER than Al Davis running the team.
You’re so slow, you’re proving my point for me.smh.
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Hey Kell I think Armchair’s point was that an Al Davis/Breshnahan defense was better than a Breshnahan solo defense ie. The last 4 of 5 that you speak.
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Armchair, fk you.
Later Gents
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Wow! I’m kinda new around here but he sure left in a huff! Is he always so grumpy? Or was he havin a bad day?
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 pm
I’m out too, good night people.
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
250.arkraider Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Wow! I’m kinda new around here but he sure left in a huff! Is he always so grumpy? Or was he havin a bad day?
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Of whom do you speak? Everybody seems crabby tonight.
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Ok everybody. Go straight to hell.
(kidding).
Good night.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:58 am
Sullivan44 Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
… This is like Geoff Petrie in Sacramento. He’s supposed to be this big genius. Yet the Kings fell apart after Adelman left. Adelman, btw, wins wherever he goes.
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I don’t agree with you on Al.
But I do agree with you on Petrie and Adelman.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:25 am
arkraider Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Hey Kell I think Armchair’s point was that an Al Davis/Breshnahan defense was better than a Breshnahan solo defense ie. The last 4 of 5 that you speak.
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arkraider-
We all get it except Kelly…Apparently they don’t teach common sense in Real Estate School.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:28 am
KoolKell Says:
April 3rd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Armchair, fk you.
Later Gents
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This is what happens when the mental midgets get pwned on this blog…
Kelly storms off spewing expletives.
Sullivan storms off and makes sandwiches.
It’s the equivalent of a white flag when they can’t formulate a coherent, intelligent argument to back up their pathetic statements…
My job here is done. Goodnight everyone.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:58 am
Okay, let’s get it straight, here and now.
AD labored under the influence of old age and dementia for past 10 seasons. His genius passed him by as the NFL entered a new age. AD should have been relieved of his managerial duties, compelled by the minority partners under the theories of negligence and oppression. The Raiders, in their dysfunctional state, while under AD’s control, could barely put together two 8/8 seasons in 10 yrs. To speculate that AD, if he had lived, could have taken us into the playoffs is nonsense; hopefully the perpetrators of that idiotic notion will gain a life and do something more creative than put forth such appallingly stupid theories.
The cultivation and encouragement of the demented and maniacal can only produce bitter and stunted fruit:
Consider AD’s acquistions and hiring of the past 10 seasons; they were absolutely disastrous and are too numerous as to be beyond the scope of this posting.
Think of J. Russell, or last season’s DC, who hadn’t been in the NFL since the Gruden years; consider the second coming of Art Shell and John Walsh. Remeber the numerous FA signings who plundered the Raiders treasury in return for almost complete non-performance. It’s sick, sad and repulsive.
I’ll say it once and for all, God performs many miracles, and the fact that AD was taken off our hands, was one of those miracles. (Hopefully, I phrased that in a “respectful” enough tone as not to upset Corky.)
Thankfully, those dark years are behind us.
Now I am most encouraged with Reggie and Mark; I think they are consumate professionals and great leaders.
What Mark doesn’t know he defers to professionals, which is his duty to the club, his partners, and fans. Reggie is stuffing our roster with many talented staff members and players, FA’s, making trades, and inexorably will workout walk-ons once camp gets going.
We feel like a real professional football team where competition amongst staff and players to produce an excellent team, now rules the day.
Soon, we’ll be smelling the fear and blood of our opponents insofar as just by the Raiders taking the field, we’ll have won the game.
This is the Raiders, and the resumption of an era that made us the greatest sports organization ever!
April 4th, 2012 at 3:31 am
Lets take him back. http://www.klewtv.com/sports/Seattle-release-Gallery-re-sign-McQuistan-142742655.html
April 4th, 2012 at 3:58 am
PercEpTivE Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 3:31 am
Lets take him back.
http://www.klewtv.com/sports/Seattle-release-Gallery-re-sign-McQuistan-142742655.html
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Take him back for what purpose ? Gallery at best was a mediocre O lineman, and that is before is injury problems began. Now, he is over-the-hill, beset with injuries. Gallery had a good run and became a multi-millionaire several times over. Now it is time for him to retire.
He can’t help the Raiders at this point.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:15 am
PercEpTivE Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 3:31 am
Lets take him back. http://www.klewtv.com/sports/Seattle-release-Gallery-re-sign-McQuistan-142742655.html
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dodnt he sign with the Pats ??
April 4th, 2012 at 5:15 am
oh and b.t.w.
GOOD MORNING NATION !!!
April 4th, 2012 at 5:15 am
Just say “No” to Gallery — he had his day; I wish him well … time to ride toward the sunset.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:19 am
Just put on a pot of coffee – it’s still early , even on the East Coast – wake up Nation – it’s another beautiful day to rock the Silver and Black!
April 4th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Already on my second cup of joe Tbone.
Rise and shine, Raider Nation!
April 4th, 2012 at 5:34 am
It was good seeing DMAC back in a uniform again yesterday – even if it was only just to pose. I went back on YouTube and watched those highlights of him lighting up the Broncos in ‘10 — awesome baby, with a capital A!
April 4th, 2012 at 5:39 am
If I were to come up with a comparision so far career wise for Darren McFadden, I would have to say Kerry Wood of the Cubs.
When healthy, top-flight, arguably the most dominant at their position. But Kerry could never stay healthy and at this stage in his career is now in the bullpen.
Let’s hope Darren can stay healthy and out of the pen.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:45 am
If DMAC can have 6 lights-out games against all our division opponents, I’m good with that.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
You think Tollefson resigns?
April 4th, 2012 at 5:51 am
With Tollefson leaving without a contract, it seems Reggie is from the school of “here’s our offer, there is no negotiating”.
There was a short SI article about the lack of need for agents in today’s NFL, and how they really could hire a lawyer to look over the contract for probably $500 and save tons of money.
Who is pushing the need for an agent? The NFLPA union, as typical.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:52 am
LOL! Nate Washington of the Titans metaphorically threw Peyton Manning under the bus yesterday (at the Nike uniform unveiling) and wondered why they were even taking a look at bringing him in, in the first place. Sour grapes on his part, or does he believe (like some of us do) that Peyton is going to end up on a stretcher before season’s end? — and then, Brady Quinn would become an NFL starter – unless they re-trade for Tebow!
April 4th, 2012 at 5:54 am
Yeah, I think Tollefson signs with Oakland. Tennessee isn’t going to break the bank for him, and in the end Tollefson wants to return home to the Bay Area.
Maybe he wants to visit Tennessee to do his due diligence and see what the market will offer. But barring an unforseen offer from the Titans, I think he’ll take what the Raiders offer and sign soon.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:55 am
I think Brady Quinn left the Donks, right?
April 4th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Early free agents are probably going to reap much higher dollars, which is why some of them are deliberating. Remember – Michael Bush’s deal happened a lot later than we all thought it would. Tollefson will most likely be signed by a team before the end of the week – I think Reggie knows what he is doing; if he signs with the Raiders, it’ll be good for the organization — if he doesn’t, there’s plenty of other young, hungry talent out there.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:57 am
I think that maybe the issue for Tollefson not signing is that he’s 29 yo, and Reggie McKenzie is all about 1-year deals lately. Probably Tollefson wants some better long term security. But he’s a journeyman situational player. I don’t think any team is going to offer that kind of deal.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Raider Nation.
I called it early. I told everyone DMAC had a Lisfrance injury last year right after it happened. Cockran would not confirm it nor JerryMac. First words out of McFadden during the interview was “It takes time to recover from a Lisfranc injury.” Just call me Dr.Exla. lol
April 4th, 2012 at 5:59 am
#272 – You’re right — it’s either going to be Caleb Hanie or Adam Weber (right now) … The fear of God has just sent a cold chill down the spines of all Broncos opponents!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Dr. Exla is in the hoooooooowwwwwwwwwwww-ssseeeeeee!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Hanie/Weber are the new Sorgi/Painter. If/when Manning goes down, donks will be sunk.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Mornin’ A.M. crew!
Draft Mychal Kendricks!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:06 am
hwnrdr Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 5:55 am
I think Brady Quinn left the Donks, right?
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He’s Matt Cassel’s backup as of now.
I hope the Chiefs keep clinging to Cassel; they could be a scary ass team if they had a real franchise QB. Thank god they didn’t get Manning.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Who do you want the Raiders to draft at #95 ???
RaiderRockstar: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Carl Weathers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8ER MIKE: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
CJ Legend 34: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
RaiderDuck: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
PlunkforHOF: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
HairyBush: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
John David Booty: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Raiderfankirk: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Goldie7: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
El Tato: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Xraided: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Dan78: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Aig-Raiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
8RaiderReign8: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
DutchRaider77: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
BewareofRaiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8drinOK: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
YoungAmerican: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Silverandblack666: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Fingers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Guest123: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Poprox13: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Neilb: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Just Fire Baby: Casey Heyward (Vandy)
R8eray: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Hwnrdr: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
DMAC: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Thec: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Wasbanned: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertbone: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
R8dercain: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
BigZ@CSM: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertalk: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Lowdown_in_Beijing: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Inonewordraider: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Jesusraiderjim: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raider O: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
RaiderRetribution: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
DJ Johnny: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Hardline: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
SilverNBlackPA: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
No Mas Diamante: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Bcz24: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Antispy3: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Blackmamba_20: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Raiderinparadise: Keenan Robinson (Texas)
Marley Bob: Emmanuel Acho (Texas)
Marks Hair: Dontari Poe (Memphis)
Raiderzmaverick: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Raiderjambo: Sean Spence (Miami U)
SR Raider: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Da Trinity: Sean Spence (Miami U)
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
Big Foot is a size 11: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
THE BLACKHOLE: Whitney Mercilus (Illinois)
JLofty: Trumaine Johnson (Montana)
LA to TheBay: Josh Robinson (USF)
Qodrn1: Josh Robinson (USF)
Plunketthead: Josh Robinson (USF)
RaidO: Josh Robinson (USF)
Dakota: Ladarius Green (Louisiana-Lafayette)
Deja vu: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
The Oracle: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
Raider Dell: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
ToneMcFresh: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
Tjbwall: Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma U)
PurpleDrank81: Shea McClellin (Boise State)
GG: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Raiders for life: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Oldschoolraider: David Molk (Michigan)
Raiderman99: Isaiah Pead (Cincinnati)
Just Win Baby: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
ELWAYs TEETH: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
Twocents: Greg Childs (Arkansas)
DT42: Brock Osweiler (Arizona State)
April 4th, 2012 at 6:07 am
I had a better diagnosis than ‘Little Ding” or “Big Ding” of Hue Jackson. lol
April 4th, 2012 at 6:09 am
still awaiting votes for #95 pick
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April 4th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Exla:
I wonder what Cable would have called DMAC’s injury — maybe a “Hansen of the foot”!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
I just checked the Chiefs’ roster on their website and poor old Brady Quinn doesn’t even have a number! LFMAO
April 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
or LMFAO (whichever you choose)!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
“I’m sure the Raiders don’t want me going to Tennessee,” Tollefson said
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what an arrogant thing to say.
pass on him, Reggie
April 4th, 2012 at 6:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
“I’m sure the Raiders don’t want me going to Tennessee,” Tollefson said
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what an arrogant thing to say.
pass on him, Reggie
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Meh. It’s just posturing, trying to get the best payday possible. I don’t blame him.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:15 am
284.raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Exla:
I wonder what Cable would have called DMAC’s injury — maybe a “Hansen of the foot”!
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Maybe a little “women beater”. ouch!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:17 am
I gotta say, I’m heartened by the Nation’s choices for who to draft at #95.
I favor Kendricks, but Chapman, Davis, Ta’amu, and Bradham would all be great choices. Wouldn’t mind Molk and Childs.
Actually, I think whoever drafts Greg Childs is getting a steal. He was playing his way into first round contention throughout his career til he got hurt. If he can stay healthy, look out.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Nobody is on board with my DB pick, lol.
Not many wanted Rolando McClain either, and look how awesome that turned out!!!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Who’s to say the Raiders made a contract offer to Tollefson? Maybe they weren’t impressed and let him leave? It does sound like they had interest in Tollefson after his comment, “I’m sure the Raiders don’t want me going to Tennessee,” Maybe it’s all a smokescreen.
All that was reported was that he left Oakland without a contract in hand.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:28 am
From Chuckie B to this egg-head from Stanford.
These defensive players must have been shocked at the playbook they were handed this year.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:30 am
I really, honestly, anticipate big-things from Rolando this season.
It will be some of the best interion LB’ing play we have had in years.
Book it
April 4th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:28 am
From Chuckie B to this egg-head from Stanford.
These defensive players must have been shocked at the playbook they were handed this year.
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Guys who’ve been with the Raiders their whole career like Kelly and McClain had to be like “Wait, this doesn’t have a converted defensive end and slow-footed MLB covering the best WRs in the game! Is that allowed?!”
April 4th, 2012 at 6:31 am
From Al Saunders to Greg Knapp.
These offensive players must be shocked at the playbook they were handed this year.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:30 am
I really, honestly, anticipate big-things from Rolando this season.
It will be some of the best interion LB’ing play we have had in years.
Book it
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I have faith because of DA and his multiple look defensive scheme. He’s clearly going to put guys into the best position for them to be successful rather than trying to force a square peg into a round hole.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:34 am
JUST HOPE THAT IS IN A GOOD WAY GUEST POST-296..
April 4th, 2012 at 6:35 am
I think Aaron Curry is going to have a breakout year, this year.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Not to make excuses or anything……
But Rolando was thrown in as a rookie MLB in an outdated scheme, and than had his DC fired and replaced by an even more outdated DC, Chuck B. With a shortened offseason to boot.
He is being put into a much better opportunity to succeed with this new staff and organization, and I think he will thrive.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Did some research on Philip Wheeler when he was coming out of Georgia Tech. Did you know he was regarded as maybe the best blitzing linebacker outside of the first round? The Colts woefully misused this guy. No wonder he wanted to come here, I’ll be Allen promised to turn him loose finally.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:39 am
raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:35 am
I think Aaron Curry is going to have a breakout year, this year.
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Curry might actually be the best fit playing at 3-4 ILB. That would allow him to keep the play in front of him rather than try to run in man-to-man which he clearly can’t do. It’s possible!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:41 am
PA, that is what Wheeler has said so far…he said that Indy’s D revolved around Peytonm Manning’s O. He said that Manning always had the lead so the D really was misused. He said here, based on talking with Caoch Tarver and Allen, he will have the chance to turn it loose! And supposedly, while rushing the QB, he has the ability to sniff out and stop the run plays!!!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Not sold on Curry.
He can be effective in spurts though. I thought he was at his best in short yardage situations, 3rd and 1’s and such.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:42 am
I can’t wait for when the pre-season predictions by all the pundits and so-called experts start. The consensus will, I promise you, be that the Raiders will be in the basement at around 6-10.
Fck that. The Chargers will finish last. The Broncos in 3rd. Dogfight between Oakland and KC for 1st.
PRINT THAT
April 4th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Curry always seemed involved in our short-yardage stops, whenever we had them.
I will give that to him.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:42 am
DIRT-LOT 298, I’m trying to optimistic.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:44 am
I’d like to see the Raiders draft the fastest guy in the draft at #95.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Curry always seemed involved in our short-yardage stops, whenever we had them.
I will give that to him.
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In a 4-3, Curry is a two-down outside linebacker who has to come out on 3rd down if there’s any other option, which we didn’t have last year. Obviously not the guy everyone thought he’d be; in retrospect he was probably a 2nd round prospect and not a top 10 guy.
Anyway, I think he could be successful as a 3-4 ILB because he can either stuff the run which he excels at or if he has to drop into coverage, it’d be in a zone that keeps him facing the LOS. Because as we all know, when he has to turn his back to the line of scrimmage and run with a WR/TE…hoo boy. Not good.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
KC was the weirdest team last year. Blown-out the first few weeks, than win 4-5 in a row, back and forth all year.
With no QB. As of now, they can’t win the division, IMO, without an ugrade to hang with Palmer, Peyton and Philisha.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
That NFLN segment “State of the Raiders” was garbage. They glossed over coach Allen and the new coaching staff and concentrated on last year’s stats. I love DMC’s response to the video of Peyton Manning. He basically brushed that news off. “It is what it is, we only gotta worry about ourselves”. He seemed genuinely annoyed by the question. As he should have been.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:47 am
guest123 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
That NFLN segment “State of the Raiders” was garbage. They glossed over coach Allen and the new coaching staff and concentrated on last year’s stats.
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Hilarious. Dumbazzes.
The owner and guiding hand for 50 damn years is gone, an entirely new regime and new philosophy from the top down is installed and they brush it off like it’s no big deal and want to talk about Peyton Manning. Fck them.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
KC was the weirdest team last year. Blown-out the first few weeks, than win 4-5 in a row, back and forth all year.
With no QB. As of now, they can’t win the division, IMO, without an ugrade to hang with Palmer, Peyton and Philisha.
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That defense, with Berry healthy, can be awesome and if Charles stays healthy he can cover up a lot of QB sins.
Interesting note: The Chiefs have hosted Ryan Tannehill for a pre-draft visit and reportedly liked his pro day workout. Don’t rule out a trade up if they think he can really be their guy.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:52 am
308.Mark Clemens Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:44 am
I’d like to see the Raiders draft the fastest guy in the draft at #95.
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Must have gone to the Al Davis draft training seminar.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Not to mention the Chiefs signing Routt, Winston, and Hillis. I think it’s not immediate contention b/c they lack a franchise QB that the other 3 teams in division have, but if they ever get one they will be dangerous.
I don’t think Tannenhill is a franchise QB. 20 game college career. Lots to learn. He’ll have to take his knocks. KC will continue to tread water w/o a franchise QB.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Let’s face it — NFLN loves to hate on the Raiders – probably influenced, in part, by their problem child, Warren Sapp. Everyone is going to start piling on pretty soon about the “demise of the Raiders, starting with Al’s death”. New GM, new coach, pretty new system, rusty veteran QB, no 1st or 2nd round picks, and a star running back coming off of injury. All things spell 5-11 prognostications, I guarantee it; however, we are gonna shock the world, baby!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:55 am
I think it will be us and KC, because KC, based on tehir D nad Crennell running the show will be the toughest. Not too worried about Peyton and the Donks…just call it a hunch!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Ryan Tannehill = younger version of Jimmy Claussen
April 4th, 2012 at 6:56 am
however, we are gonna shock the world, baby!
And that was my story and I will stick to it!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:57 am
I agree with post #317.
I see Peyton Manning going down hard and once and for all.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:57 am
KC is the team that worries me most, this year.
April 4th, 2012 at 6:59 am
#320 – and then, all those #18 orange jerseys will start appearing on E-Bay!
April 4th, 2012 at 6:59 am
322.raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 6:59 am
#320 – and then, all those #18 orange jerseys will start appearing on E-Bay!
LOL
April 4th, 2012 at 7:00 am
With the 95th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select CB Josh Robinson from Central Florida. 40 time = 4.33
April 4th, 2012 at 7:00 am
305. Raiders going 6-10 would not be a surprise. Its not a playoff or die year anymore like it would have been before all the changes. They can blame it on all the changes if they suck this season. They or reggie basically created a copout.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Hey Clemens — I didn’t know that anyone had dug up Al this week!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:02 am
My friend and I used to argue about which Manning brother looked the most mentally retarded. I always said Peyton, he said Eli. What do you guys think?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Hey Clemens — I didn’t know that anyone had dug up Al this week!
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Al actually left it in his will that the Reggie must draft the fastest guy available every year.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:04 am
324.Mark Clemens Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:00 am
With the 95th pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select CB Josh Robinson from Central Florida. 40 time = 4.33
Like Reggie said before…he’s fast, but can he play football? We do need corners though…sigh
April 4th, 2012 at 7:05 am
327.Mark Clemens Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:02 am
My friend and I used to argue about which Manning brother looked the most mentally retarded. I always said Peyton, he said Eli. What do you guys think?
LOL…Eli does have his eyes going in different directions
April 4th, 2012 at 7:05 am
We could take Pittsburgh (showing some age), New Orleans (total disarray) and Tampa (still green), we could at least split with our division (that’s 6 wins, right there) and then get wins over Cleveland and Miami. Just one more win, and we’d be at 9-7 — dare to dream, brethren!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Eli’s pretty good when he hones in on a receiver — he just throws it to the “one in the middle” — it’s those damn lazy eyes!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:08 am
If a 6-10 transition year is what it takes to change the culture, get rid of the scholarships, get back to disciplined technique, fundamentals, sustained effort…..
Then I’ll take my lumps and go with the program. We may not have the pieces to talk about shocking anyone. But we’re going to surprise some people this year.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:09 am
My friend and I used to argue about which Manning brother looked the most mentally retarded. I always said Peyton, he said Eli. What do you guys think?
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Always think “dude where’s my car” when I see Jay Cutler.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I think our offense will pretty much be the same. I just hope that Palmer cleans up his INTs…our D is the one that I think will surprise many, hence the whole team!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Look what Cincinnati did last year. Every year, at least one team comes out of the woodwork and does what nobody thought they were capable of. I’m happy to be flying “under the radar”, as opposed to being the “sexy preseason pick”.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:10 am
LOL, good one Neil! Good Afternoon!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:11 am
#334 – Brady Quinn = Ashton Kutcher in shoulder pads!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Agreed Tbone…I rather stay off the radar. Less disappointment that way…although last year was still kinda hard to swallow…
April 4th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Morning Hwnrdr!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Remember – we didn’t use the TE hardly at all, last year (after relying on Zach heavily in ‘10). If Ausberry can develop into a weapon, and we could bring in a guy like Dallas Clark and he could be both healthy and productive, that could open up things quite a bit. I’m anxious to see how things look in training camp …
April 4th, 2012 at 7:15 am
#337 – Afternoon? The cannibis must be really good today!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:15 am
When Whosyourmamma came in last year hence cutting Hagan (stupid move still, I believe)…wasn’t there like an overabundance of TEs that maybe one of them should have been placed on the PS?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:16 am
342.raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:15 am
#337 – Afternoon? The cannibis must be really good today!
LOL, Neil lives in England
April 4th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Tbone….
Along those lines I’m interested in how they use Reece.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:18 am
According to Steve Corkran of the Oakland Tribune, a Tyvon Branch extension is “in the works right now” with Raiders brass.
It sounds like GM Reggie McKenzie has prioritized locking up Branch. Not only would extending him keep a good player under Oakland’s control, it would free up salary cap space. Branch is currently sporting a one-year, $6.22 million franchise tag. Extending him could clear upwards of $5 million versus the cap.
Good news, but why isn’t this a new thread Cork?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Tbone…
I’m from the north-east of England.Click on my name!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Okay – maybe I am the one who needs to put down the cannibis!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Speaking in a Tuesday radio interview, Joe Flacco said he believes he’s the best quarterback in the NFL.
“I don’t think I’m top five, I think I’m the best,” Flacco said. “I don’t think I’d be very successful at my job if I didn’t feel that way. … That doesn’t mean that things are going to work out that way.” Still in search of a new contract, Flacco is taking Eli Manning’s “elite” 2011 confidence game to a new level. It’s unlikely to produce the same results.
Whoah…
April 4th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Regardless of the excess TE’s on the roster last year, Hue had the choice of IR’ing DMC, and he knew it was a Lis-Franc and it wouldn’t be ready soon. He rode DMC’s roster spot like Nick Miller.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:21 am
333. After sucking for so many years i have to strongly disagree with that comment. Raiders were finally on the up and up. One game away from the playoffs and before all the changes expected to be a strong playoff team this season. You say what you want about hue but that is the fact. Now they are back to square one with season having a copout if they suck. Also all these changes may not even work. Then what? Raiders suck again and you will hear a lot of should have kept hue talk. Lol
April 4th, 2012 at 7:21 am
All good Tbone, you didn’t know…but speaking of cannibus…where is Mike?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Read that aswell Hwnrdr.It’s this season’s “we’re a dream team” quote.What an ejit.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:22 am
350.guest123 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Regardless of the excess TE’s on the roster last year, Hue had the choice of IR’ing DMC, and he knew it was a Lis-Franc and it wouldn’t be ready soon. He rode DMC’s roster spot like Nick Miller.
True, or JC because we all knew that he wasn’t coming back in 6 weeks
April 4th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Yesterday was the second day of offseason workouts — Veldheer says he has been keeping in shape at the gym he opened up back in his Michigan home; Brodine says he was keeping in shape in Nebraska (probably lifting tractors!), DMAC was trying on new uniforms and Michael Huff was just trying to learn peoples’ names!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:25 am
LOL LOL LOL.. right here at work, slave to the grind !!
and yes wake and bake in full effect !!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:27 am
What we do this year will get down to fundamentals, players who are hungry and motivated, and individuals who are capable of “stepping up and making a play”. Some of that was missing last year, with a lot of people just sleepwalking after Al’s death. All in all, I truly believe the team is ready to take the next step.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Veldheer is from Mich?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Mike checks in — and seems both cogent and lucid today (great job out of you!)
April 4th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Hillsdale.Where’s that?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:31 am
yeah, i have my moments !! lol lol
April 4th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Wow, Obam@ does not recognize the Supreme Court’s right to overturn unconstitutional federal statutes?
I thought this guy went to law school…..
When is he going to move to have the Presidency declared a King or Caeser and abolish Congress too?
Go Raiders!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Neilb,
Mich!
Do you guys have a large ghetto area that kills industries? We call ours Mich.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:35 am
All hail Caesar! All hail Caesar!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Good Morning A.M. Crew!!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Flaccos a dork.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:38 am
King 0bama would be an improvement over our joke of a Supreme Court.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Flacco is the best QB…..on the Ravens at least….
April 4th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Raider O Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Neilb,
Mich!
Do you guys have a large ghetto area that kills industries? We call ours Mich.
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lol lol lol lol lol lol
April 4th, 2012 at 7:39 am
LMAO at Flacco. This guy is not even a top 10 QB.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Not many wanted Rolando McClain either, and look how awesome that turned out!!!
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@JFB
actually, if I remember correctly there were about 15 other bloggers that wanted ROMAC as well
April 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Mike,
LOL
I hate Mich almost as much as I love weed & Bush.
Damn you Mich!
Go Buckeyes!!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I wanted us to trade up for Suh, but McClain was my 2nd choice.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I wasn’t sold in JPP, and I thought he was just a combine freak.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I really, honestly, anticipate big-things from Rolando this season.
It will be some of the best interion LB’ing play we have had in years.
Book it
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@JFB
I wouldn’t say “big things” are what I expect from #55 this year, but I don’t see how any of us don’t expect improvement.
Al Davis is gone and so are his sockpuppet DC’s like Marshall & Bresnahan. scholarships have ended. discipline is here.
2012 = best MLB play we’ve had since Kirk Morrison!
2010 & 2011 = atrocious MLB play
April 4th, 2012 at 7:46 am
I am holding out hope for McClain….because I have no choice. Don’t have the cap space to cut him this year, so you have to hope that the new coaching staff can light a fire under his azz and teach him how to play the game.
DHB had a pretty good 3rd year….he is almost an average WR now! Maybe McClain can become an average MLB too?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I have a feeling we will find out that Rolando was playing distracted all last year after that drive by attempt on him. I think he will have a good year.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:49 am
woooo hoooo only 43 more posts till 420 !!!!!
April 4th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I’ll own up to wanting to pick RoMac at #8. It was either him or Iupati. What could go wrong? All-American MVP of the National Champs and QB of the defense. We had a weak incumbent that needed to go in Cap’n Kirk. RoMac was supposed to be this intense student of the game and one of Coach Saban’s prized pupils. Seemed like a great pick and all around blue chip prospect. We hadn’t had someone of his pedigree at LB in years.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:52 am
I hope that Rolando McClain proves my gut instinct right and develops into a solid player, but there is enough of a sample size to be skeptical it will ever happen. I don’t think it’s the coaching staff either. He just doesn’t seem to have it in him.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Just said goodbye to Quentin Groves on twitter. Good luck Groves.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am
McClain is very talented. N Saban said he is the smartest player he ever coached. He is big, 6′3 250+, and runs a 4.6, and he is a good/strong tackler. He played for 2 HCs & 2 DCs (not including AL) since he was drafted. I can’t think of a single player on Defense who had a great season (Branch too) last year.
I can’t wait to see him play this season.
April 4th, 2012 at 7:55 am
379.guest123 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I’ll own up to wanting to pick RoMac at #8. It was either him or Iupati. What could go wrong? All-American MVP of the National Champs and QB of the defense. We had a weak incumbent that needed to go in Cap’n Kirk. RoMac was supposed to be this intense student of the game and one of Coach Saban’s prized pupils. Seemed like a great pick and all around blue chip prospect. We hadn’t had someone of his pedigree at LB in years.
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That’s what everyone said about him going into the draft. Kind of a Robert Gallery hype….but it is the team’s responsibility to dig deeper into a players character, work ethic etc. I think the Raiders dropped the ball in that area once again. I watch McClain play in one game, and I watched him because I knew there was a possibility we would draft him. He never made any outstanding plays and he looked slow. Saw him come in late on plays and end up getting an assist on a tackle, but he looked slow to react to plays.
How could the Raiders miss that?
April 4th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Did some research on Philip Wheeler when he was coming out of Georgia Tech. Did you know he was regarded as maybe the best blitzing linebacker outside of the first round? The Colts woefully misused this guy. No wonder he wanted to come here, I’ll be Allen promised to turn him loose finally.
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awesome!!
milk him for all he’s worth, like Al Davis did with Derrick Burgess
April 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am
How could the Raiders miss that?
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Al was probably snoozing while watching game film.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I knew this guy who went to bama. He blew so much smoke up my azz about romac… Our D would be sooo good. blablabla.. Hope the new coaches can fix him.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I wanted us to draft L Woodley, but we drafted Z Miller.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Not many wanted Rolando McClain either, and look how awesome that turned out!!!
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@JFB
actually, if I remember correctly there were about 15 other bloggers that wanted ROMAC as well
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Yeah…I’m one of them!
This year is his last straw….or else we’ll do him like Seattle did Curry!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:02 am
KC was the weirdest team last year. Blown-out the first few weeks, than win 4-5 in a row, back and forth all year.
With no QB. As of now, they can’t win the division, IMO, without an ugrade to hang with Palmer, Peyton and Philisha.
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@JFB
Cassel was injured last year. they only missed the playoffs by one game. who’s to say they wouldn’t have won the division last year with a healthy Matt Cassel?
he was a Pro Bowler and division champ in 2010. that was before the Chiefs lost Eric Berry, Jamaal Charles, Tony Moeaki and Cassel himself to injury in 2011..
Matt Cassel will be fine in 2012 as long as he and his playmakers stay healthy – but the same could be said for Palmer, DMAC, etc
April 4th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Why no cp3 Q & A? Lets talk playbook cork..
April 4th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I think the Raiders dropped the ball in that area once again. I watch McClain play in one game, and I watched him because I knew there was a possibility we would draft him. He never made any outstanding plays and he looked slow. Saw him come in late on plays and end up getting an assist on a tackle, but he looked slow to react to plays.
How could the Raiders miss that?
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Good question, I think some of his personal shortcomings were masked by his ability to be a good line caller. He was like DC back there and read the formations well, setting up his teammates to be ready for the next formation or audible. I think that’s what the scouts saw and it played off as ‘leadership’. But he never was the first guy to the ball, and played off others aggressiveness.
Still shaking my head that the scouts could have missed that component of his game. It was a critical flaw not to notice. No doubt the scouts that are rumored to be fired have to be the same ones who evaluated RoMac. That is a firable offense to not see what they should have seen on film.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:06 am
DMAC was trying on new uniforms
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I mean to be fair, he was chosen by the team to represent us in the uniform unveiling.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:09 am
According to Steve Corkran of the Oakland Tribune, a Tyvon Branch extension is “in the works right now” with Raiders brass.
It sounds like GM Reggie McKenzie has prioritized locking up Branch. Not only would extending him keep a good player under Oakland’s control, it would free up salary cap space. Branch is currently sporting a one-year, $6.22 million franchise tag. Extending him could clear upwards of $5 million versus the cap.
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thanks Hwnrdr
don’t overpay him, Reggie!!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Who do you want the Raiders to draft at #95 ???
RaiderRockstar: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Carl Weathers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8ER MIKE: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
CJ Legend 34: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
RaiderDuck: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
PlunkforHOF: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
HairyBush: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
John David Booty: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Raiderfankirk: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Goldie7: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
El Tato: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Xraided: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Dan78: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Aig-Raiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
8RaiderReign8: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
DutchRaider77: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
BewareofRaiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8drinOK: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
YoungAmerican: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Silverandblack666: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Fingers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Guest123: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Poprox13: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Neilb: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Just Fire Baby: Casey Heyward (Vandy)
R8eray: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Hwnrdr: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
DMAC: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Thec: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Wasbanned: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertbone: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
R8dercain: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
BigZ@CSM: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertalk: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Lowdown_in_Beijing: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Inonewordraider: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Jesusraiderjim: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raider O: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
RaiderRetribution: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
DJ Johnny: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Hardline: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
SilverNBlackPA: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
No Mas Diamante: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Bcz24: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Antispy3: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Blackmamba_20: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Raiderinparadise: Keenan Robinson (Texas)
Marley Bob: Emmanuel Acho (Texas)
Marks Hair: Dontari Poe (Memphis)
Raiderzmaverick: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Raiderjambo: Sean Spence (Miami U)
SR Raider: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Da Trinity: Sean Spence (Miami U)
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
Big Foot is a size 11: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
THE BLACKHOLE: Whitney Mercilus (Illinois)
JLofty: Trumaine Johnson (Montana)
LA to TheBay: Josh Robinson (USF)
Qodrn1: Josh Robinson (USF)
Mark Clemens: Josh Robinson (USF)
Plunketthead: Josh Robinson (USF)
RaidO: Josh Robinson (USF)
Dakota: Ladarius Green (Louisiana-Lafayette)
Deja vu: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
The Oracle: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
Raider Dell: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
ToneMcFresh: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
Tjbwall: Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma U)
PurpleDrank81: Shea McClellin (Boise State)
GG: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Raiders for life: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Oldschoolraider: David Molk (Michigan)
Raiderman99: Isaiah Pead (Cincinnati)
Just Win Baby: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
ELWAYs TEETH: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
Twocents: Greg Childs (Arkansas)
DT42: Brock Osweiler (Arizona State)
April 4th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Where did Groves go?
April 4th, 2012 at 8:10 am
I dont think we need to worry about overpaying guys anymore.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Can I change my pick to luck? He is on the top of my board..
April 4th, 2012 at 8:11 am
The problem with McClain is the same problem Russell had/has…
No heart. Dude has the physical tools to be awesome, he just doesn’t put forth the effort.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Demetrius Bell says his visits are over
Bell recently visited the Steelers and the Eagles.
-PFT
April 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Branch is getting an extension? Great news. Can’t wait to see what the Haters have to say. RR?
April 4th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Pick 95 if AL was alive? Devon Whylie wr/returner Fresno st. 4.33 40 comming off a foot injury. 4.25 40 a couple yrs ago when 100%.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:17 am
If we draft Whylie, I’ll change my screenname to Whylie’s Wheels
April 4th, 2012 at 8:18 am
RRS left me off da list shain.
Cut Condo.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Free agent QB Dennis Dixon will reportedly throw to Jerricho Cotchery in Wednesday’s workout.
Outside of a late-March visit to Denver, Dixon has received surprisingly little interest as a possible No. 2 quarterback. The Rams do have a vacancy behind Sam Bradford.
Related: Rams
Source: Adam Caplan on Twitter Apr 4 – 11:16 AM
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Get on the phone Regg!
His going rate is dropping by the minute!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:22 am
again…
April 4th, 2012 at 8:24 am
LOL Preppie.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:29 am
BAC down 3% today…good thing I shorted 1000 shares.
I could teach u a lot bout $$$ Mustafa.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Preppie,
I appreciate that, and I’m willing to learn.
Teach me!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Btw, I have been monitoring BAC’s movement since you told me about it. It was down a few weeks back.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:36 am
with the #95 pick in the 2012 draft, Oakland Raiders select Brandon Thompson DT out of Clemson.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Who do you want the Raiders to draft at #95 ???
RaiderRockstar: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Carl Weathers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8ER MIKE: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
CJ Legend 34: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
RaiderDuck: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
PlunkforHOF: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
HairyBush: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
John David Booty: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Raiderfankirk: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Goldie7: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
El Tato: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Xraided: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Dan78: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Aig-Raiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
8RaiderReign8: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
DutchRaider77: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
BewareofRaiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8drinOK: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
YoungAmerican: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Silverandblack666: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Fingers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Guest123: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Poprox13: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Neilb: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Just Fire Baby: Casey Heyward (Vandy)
R8eray: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Hwnrdr: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
DMAC: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Thec: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Wasbanned: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertbone: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
R8dercain: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
BigZ@CSM: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertalk: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Lowdown_in_Beijing: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Inonewordraider: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Jesusraiderjim: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Mike Martin (Michigan)
Raider O: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
RaiderRetribution: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
DJ Johnny: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Hardline: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
SilverNBlackPA: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
No Mas Diamante: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Bcz24: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Antispy3: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Blackmamba_20: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Raiderinparadise: Keenan Robinson (Texas)
Marley Bob: Emmanuel Acho (Texas)
Marks Hair: Dontari Poe (Memphis)
Raiderzmaverick: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Raiderjambo: Sean Spence (Miami U)
SR Raider: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Da Trinity: Sean Spence (Miami U)
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
Big Foot is a size 11: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
THE BLACKHOLE: Whitney Mercilus (Illinois)
JLofty: Trumaine Johnson (Montana)
LA to TheBay: Josh Robinson (USF)
Qodrn1: Josh Robinson (USF)
Mark Clemens: Josh Robinson (USF)
Plunketthead: Josh Robinson (USF)
RaidO: Josh Robinson (USF)
Dakota: Ladarius Green (Louisiana-Lafayette)
Deja vu: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
The Oracle: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
Raider Dell: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
ToneMcFresh: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
Tjbwall: Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma U)
PurpleDrank81: Shea McClellin (Boise State)
GG: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Raiders for life: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Oldschoolraider: David Molk (Michigan)
Raiderman99: Isaiah Pead (Cincinnati)
Just Win Baby: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
ELWAYs TEETH: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
Twocents: Greg Childs (Arkansas)
DT42: Brock Osweiler (Arizona State)
April 4th, 2012 at 8:37 am
gotcha BSJ & STR
April 4th, 2012 at 8:38 am
RRS, where is my love?
Mike Martin, DT, from THE University of Michigan
April 4th, 2012 at 8:38 am
still awaiting votes for #95 pick
Attn:
Jhill
Exla
HGDaddy
ROG
JB
Guy
C2E
303Raider
arkraider
anallpro24
realtruraider
cfrylopez
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765Raiders
House Fly
micafonist
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J-Raider
Randy the Raider Redneck Alligator
Seymour Bush
SaintKaufman
SharkCatcher
AutumnWind
coffee house raider
ArmChair GM
ENGLANDRAIDER
PercEpTivE
arkraider
I90 Raider
hendu
HitManMorris
TheGreatness
Area man
Al_is_theraiders
chuck
408RAIDER
EWstyle
Raiderfusion
Gdog
Sullivan44
Kirk
Morilla
raiderjhawk
Raider Guy
Master Beeecham
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Try Some Reality
waklaboo
Banana
Chris in NY
AmysInCharge
horrordude0215
raiderlization
sacraiderfan
araiderso
Debo
April 4th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Alameda Ta’amu & Mychal Kendricks are likely 2nd round picks. I think it’s a pipedream to see them at 95.
If you scrub the list, it looks like Chapman and Brown are good bets to be the favorites at 95. I wouldn’t mind either one.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Hwnrdr Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Where did Groves go?
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He is a free agent. Raiders gave his number to Wheeler. He visited with the Giants recently.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Alameda Ta’amu & Mychal Kendricks are likely 2nd round picks. I think it’s a pipedream to see them at 95.
If you scrub the list, it looks like Chapman and Brown are good bets to be the favorites at 95. I wouldn’t mind either one.
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Agreed with G123!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:43 am
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that WR Jerome Simpson will work out for the Rams today, then head to court in Kentucky tomorrow, where he’ll be sentenced after pleading guilty to charges stemming from the delivery of a package of marijuana to his house.
The good news for Simpson is that he’s expected to do no more than 60 days behind bars, which means he’ll be out in plenty of time for training camp. And if his workout goes well, the Rams may be ready to have him at camp.
What we don’t know is whether Simpson will be available at the start of the season. He is expected to be suspended by the NFL, probably for multiple games.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Kendricks is 5′11!!!! Name one LB who is shorter than 6′ and was drafted in the 1st 2 rounds.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:43 am
420 WOOOHOOOO
PUFF PUFF PASS
April 4th, 2012 at 8:44 am
looks like a good time to go outside and fire one up !!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Beason is 6′. I know it’s just an inch, but tell that to scouts who pass on QBs under 6′2, or teams that pass on LBs because they are not 6′+.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:45 am
416.Mark Clemens Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Hwnrdr Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Where did Groves go?
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He is a free agent. Raiders gave his number to Wheeler. He visited with the Giants recently.
Gotcha! Thanks!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Let’s do it Mike!!
GDP and Silver Haze cocktail for me.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Get on the phone Regg!
His going rate is dropping by the minute!
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@ ray
which player do you want?
Dennis Dixon or Jerricho Cotchery?
April 4th, 2012 at 8:47 am
pass the dotchie to the left hand side!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:47 am
#426…it was a cool and lonely breezy afternoon…
April 4th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Branch is getting an extension? Great news. Can’t wait to see what the Haters have to say. RR?
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@ Raider O
since when did I get labeled a Branch hater?
because I said we should give him a reasonable “take it or leave it” contract offer instead of tagging him?
April 4th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Its 8:48am here mike.. Its a perfect time to blaze..
April 4th, 2012 at 8:51 am
RR,
You are known as a Branch and McClain hater. Get over it.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Eagles get Bell.
nice add since they lost Peters for the season to injury
what is their fascination with Bills OL?
April 4th, 2012 at 8:52 am
You are known as a Branch and McClain hater. Get over it.
***
ROMAC? yes
Branch? innocent until proven guilty
April 4th, 2012 at 8:53 am
RR,
LMAO!
You got it.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Lets trade our 2014 draft for Luck.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:54 am
morning noon and night , its always a good time to blaze !!
Man made booze and God made grass.
Now who do you trust ????
April 4th, 2012 at 8:54 am
to be fair, I only “hate” on #55 because he’s a terrible football player
April 4th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Lets trade our 2014 draft for Luck.
***
marks hair = palmer & pryor hater??
April 4th, 2012 at 8:55 am
DIXON!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Nah, im just board…
April 4th, 2012 at 8:58 am
bored
April 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
I like our OL, but I’m not sold on Barnes. He is the Weakest link in that unit.
I’m also not sure how CC will handle moving to LG.
Draft C M Brewster, keep Wiz at LG, and find a new RT.
April 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
f*ck a cheap bong
i wanna smoke with cheech and chong
and if i wanna f*ck long
i let my ding a long hit the bong
and then its on
always pass the dutchie to the left
because the right way is wrong!!!!
April 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Grass!!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
@ ray
is Dennis Dixon any better than these guys??
Matt Leinart
Kellen Clemens
Jake Delhomme
A.J. Feeley
Luke McCown
Kevin O’Connell
I’m gonna assume he’s better than former Raider QB’s Jeff Garcia, Kyle Boller & J.P. Losman also on the market
April 4th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Raider O likes Punky Brewster??
April 4th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I would steal caorolina & denvers goal line plays and use TP there this season. Cam is unstoppable down there.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:02 am
RR,
A lot of people think TP should move to another position, but the same people like Tebow as a QB and think Locker is better than TP due to his draft status.
I don’t get it.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:03 am
@Marks Hair
Knapp > McCoy & Chudzinski
April 4th, 2012 at 9:03 am
man im tired of seeing the poohssy ass mofo. i type in url nfl.com and fahqin teblow is the first thing i see.
FAHQIN TIRED OF THIS CUMSTAIN!
get over this schit man!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:04 am
RR,
Necer heard of it. I had to google it.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Never*
April 4th, 2012 at 9:05 am
A lot of people think TP should move to another position
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@ Raider O
a lot of people are ignorant. so what else is new??
the sky is blue, the grass is green and horse manure doesn’t stink
April 4th, 2012 at 9:06 am
i had never seen TP play until i youtubed him, but alot of my Raider-hating buddies that watch college ball actually have a lot of good things to say about him and a few even think he should have got reps in the K.C. game when Palmer had just arrived.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Rockstar, as a horse owner and living on a ranch with about 8 others, horse manure actually doesnt stink. its the piss on the schit that gives the stench, lol
April 4th, 2012 at 9:08 am
TP played in a spread o & he has poor or at best inconsistant mechanics.. so some will say take advantage of his talents, while you teach him the qb pos.. Or just move him to wr alltogether.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:09 am
TP needs to improve his throwing motion, which will improve his accuracy, strength, and Spin. He reminds me of D McNabb, but TP is a better athlete.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:09 am
as a horse owner and living on a ranch with about 8 others, horse manure actually doesnt stink
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@STR
I know – I was being serious!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
TP player under C too!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
RRS, I think so..
When Big Ben when down, he did a good job coming in, from what I remember.
He’s still young with plenty of potential!
Might be very similar to TP style, but if TP is not ready…why not?
April 4th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Played*
April 4th, 2012 at 9:12 am
*went
April 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Raider O
lol, just re-read your post.
you were being serious, my bad.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:16 am
*bagina
April 4th, 2012 at 9:17 am
anyone have a replica jersey that I can ask a question about?
April 4th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Is v.y ever gonna get a job?
April 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am
TP accuracy? Get outta here with that mess. Dude was 10th Passing Efficiency Rating in the ncaa in 2010. Not bad.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:23 am
DMAC. Afternoon sir !!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:23 am
STR,
You can always blame it on Weed or Mich.
Damn you Mich!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:24 am
raiderjhawk Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:17 am
anyone have a replica jersey that I can ask a question about?
***************************************************
ask away. but i me kinda high right now
April 4th, 2012 at 9:26 am
i am *
April 4th, 2012 at 9:26 am
TP accuracy? Get outta here with that mess. Dude was 10th Passing Efficiency Rating in the ncaa in 2010. Not bad.
***
@Raid
exactly – this is why Raider O was denounced as President of the TP fanclub. thanks for your support
April 4th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Probably old news, but I didn’t feel like scrolling up to read.
According to Steve Corkran of the Oakland Tribune, a Tyvon Branch extension is “in the works right now” with Raiders brass.
It sounds like GM Reggie McKenzie has prioritized locking up Branch. Not only would extending him keep a good player under Oakland’s control, it would free up salary cap space. Branch is currently sporting a one-year, $6.22 million franchise tag. Extending him could clear upwards of $5 million versus the cap.
Source: Steve Corkran on Twitter
================
Reggie will get this deal done and then get Tollefson signed.
Holla!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:26 am
anyone have a replica jersey that I can ask a question about?
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ask away. but i me kinda high right now
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LMAO
April 4th, 2012 at 9:27 am
R8ER MIKE, do the replica jersey’s run big? I normally wear a Large shirt, I’m wondering if a Large jersey will be too big. The Reebok jerseys are on sale for 40 bones at Raiders.com! They have D. Moore in Large and a Med. one in Palmer…
April 4th, 2012 at 9:29 am
TP needs to mature…kids prob is judgment AND accuracy.
Has nice ink tho LOLOLOLOL
April 4th, 2012 at 9:29 am
RR,
No, that’s why you were denounced! I posted all those stats long time ago, but his accuracy is an issue. I’m not going to lie, but he is more accurate than Locker.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:30 am
466.Marks hair Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Is v.y ever gonna get a job?
+++++++++++++++
Maybe he can tutor that LSU cornerback that got a 4 on the wonderlic?
April 4th, 2012 at 9:31 am
I used to wear Large, I tried a replica, and Medium was a better fit IMO.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:31 am
no the replica jerseys dont run big .
April 4th, 2012 at 9:31 am
DMAC, yeah I posted that one earlier…but its all good
April 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
i wear a 2x and the replica 2x fit fine
April 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Free agent WR Jerome Simpson will visit the Rams Wednesday.
It will be Simpson’s first known visit of free agency. The 26-year-old, four-year veteran will be sentenced in his felony drug case on Thursday. He’s facing a maximum of 60 days in jail, but it’s the four-game suspension (at minimum) that’s expected to follow that’s chilled his market to a freeze. Coach Marvin Lewis recently hinted Simpson could end up back in Cincinnati.
Related: Rams
Source: Jim Thomas on Twitter
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Didn’t know this dude was a FA. For those of you who are still concerned about our WR’s, I think this dude could be signed on the cheap. The only problem is that he has a 4 game suspension.
I don’t see Reggie bringing him, but wouldn’t mind him on the team.
Eddie MgGee might crack the 53 man roster this season. The kid had been working hard w/ CP3.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
he is more accurate than Locker.
***
Agree that draft status is moot
neither Locker nor Pryor is starting in 2012 (barring injury)
Matt Hasselbeck (post failed Peyton Manning attempt) & Carson Palmer are firmly entrenched imo
April 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Dakota Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:30 am
466.Marks hair Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Is v.y ever gonna get a job?
+++++++++++++++
Maybe he can tutor that LSU cornerback that got a 4 on the wonderlic?
===========
Be easy Dakota.
That kid has a learning disability.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Eddie McGee might crack the 53 man roster this season
***
@DMAC
I fully expect that to happen. Ausberry too
April 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
I hope McKenzie is careful with his negotiations with Branch. One-year wonder in a contract year….still seen in the end zone looking confused as teams score on us in the air….doesn’t make many plays close to the LOS against the run….don’t break the bank for this guy!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:35 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
i wear a 2x and the replica 2x fit fine
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I hit it 2x, then pass it on down
April 4th, 2012 at 9:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Eddie McGee might crack the 53 man roster this season
***
@DMAC
I fully expect that to happen. Ausberry too
============
I think the youngters will shine this season.
Big role for Ausberry. I think the entire staff is high on that kid.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Chargers signed Mario Henderson.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
I hope McKenzie is careful with his negotiations with Branch. One-year wonder in a contract year….still seen in the end zone looking confused as teams score on us in the air….doesn’t make many plays close to the LOS against the run….don’t break the bank for this guy!
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DA and company will have Branch playing in his 1st pro bowl.
Holla!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I wear a 2x myself…I can fit an XL but I like my clothing a bit loose…lol
April 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
RR,
Maybe Palmer was talking about McGee. We need a big WR on the roster to replace Chaz.
Go Aztecs!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:39 am
You heard CP tree trunk excited about doing bootlegs and rollouts in the new wco. LOL. TP will see some playing time this year.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Panthers sign ex-49er safety Reggie Smith
April 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider O Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
RR,
Maybe Palmer was talking about McGee. We need a big WR on the roster to replace Chaz.
Go Aztecs!
============
McGee = Chaz’ replacement
April 4th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I wear 2X now, and 1X Jersey is a good fit for me.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:42 am
So what time today will we announce the Tollefson signing? (Reggie will have him signed before the end of the day)
April 4th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I need to lose weight!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Chargers Sign Former Raider OT Mario Henderson
Apr 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm by Ernie Padaon
The San Diego Chargers have signed former Oakland Raiders OT Mario Henderson according to Mario’s facebook page. Henderson was drafted by Oakland in 2007 and played in Oakland till 2010. He started 8 games for Oakland. Last season Henderson played football with the Colorado Ice.
Here is what he wrote on his facebook yesterday:
God is gud i just want to give him all the praise for given me another chance He deserves all da credit n wanna thank th San Diego chargers for given me another chance n i know wat i need to do. Im goin back to Cali .. The Real is on the Rise….
Henderson is back in the NFL with us and will be getting his second chance. He stands at 6-foot-7, 300 pounds and will get a chance to be a reserve behind Jared Gaither and Jeromey Clary.
Henderson was arrested last year for a concealed weapons violation after getting pulled over for his music blaring out of his Impala (NBC-2).
We have another body to throw into the mix and hopefully he can revive his career here.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Raider O Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I need to lose weight!
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Get your fat ass on that treadmill and put down the hot cheeto puffs.
lol
April 4th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I don’t eat a lot, I eat healthy food (most of the time), but I eat late. I like to smoke, eat, and sleep.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:43 am
for once in his life, Dakota wasn’t foolin
LOL
April 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Mornin, fellas.
I believe Branch will indeed play in the Pro Bowl this year.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
503.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:43 am
for once in his life, Dakota wasn’t foolin
LOL
++++++++++++++
I mix it up to keep you guys guessing!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
DMAC,
LOL
I don’t like that crap. I’m not a hamster.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
joetoronto Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Mornin, fellas.
I believe Branch will indeed play in the Pro Bowl this year.
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Morning.
Two great minds thinking alike.
Yes indeed.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Raider O Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
DMAC,
LOL
I don’t like that crap. I’m not a hamster.
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Call me hamster, then.
lol
April 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Speaking of losing weight, Henderson is carrying way too much, his old knees can’t handle it.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am
DMAC,
Put some weed and bush at the end of it, and I will run better than any hamster.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am
LMAO DMAC
April 4th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Good One O! I didn’t like it either but it has help me lose some weight…I lost almost 20 pounds, well, that and doing a bit of weights…you know, food on fork, lift from plate to mouth…repeat!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Oh wait…that helped me gain it back…lol
April 4th, 2012 at 9:49 am
McGee & Owens to replace Schilens & Housh on the 53 ???
Ausberry to replace Boss?
Goodson to replace Bush?
Briesel replaces Satele on the starting OL?
Pryor #2 QB instead of Boller?
I’m good with it.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Raider O Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am
DMAC,
Put some weed and bush at the end of it, and I will run better than any hamster.
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You should get you a custom made extra XL hamster wheel. It could be a great exercise toy for you.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am
hwnrdr Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I wear a 2x myself…I can fit an XL but I like my clothing a bit loose…lol
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same goes for me !!
i mean i could get in a medium , but it aint pretty !!
lol lol lol lol..
and fu*k that.. life is too short to go small !!!
April 4th, 2012 at 9:52 am
hwnrdr Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Good One O! I didn’t like it either but it has help me lose some weight…I lost almost 20 pounds, well, that and doing a bit of weights…you know, food on fork, lift from plate to mouth…repeat!
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Hwrdr, pumping weights?
Will I be able to recognize you, next home game?
April 4th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Raider O Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am
DMAC,
Put some weed and bush at the end of it, and I will run better than any hamster.
+++++++++++++++
Maybe this is the answer to our nation’s energy needs? Hook a generator up to that wheel and let Raider O go! Problem is that the left would probably complain about all the CO2 you would generate with your breathing, 2nd hand smoke and funyun farts.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Who do you want the Raiders to draft at #95 ???
RaiderRockstar: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Carl Weathers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8ER MIKE: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
CJ Legend 34: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
RaiderDuck: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
PlunkforHOF: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
HairyBush: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
John David Booty: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Raiderfankirk: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Goldie7: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
El Tato: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Xraided: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Dan78: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Aig-Raiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
8RaiderReign8: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
DutchRaider77: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
BewareofRaiders: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
R8drinOK: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
YoungAmerican: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Silverandblack666: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Fingers: Josh Chapman (Alabama)
Guest123: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Poprox13: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Neilb: Demario Davis (Arkansas State)
Just Fire Baby: Casey Heyward (Vandy)
R8eray: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Hwnrdr: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
DMAC: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Thec: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Wasbanned: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertbone: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
R8dercain: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
BigZ@CSM: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Raidertalk: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Lowdown_in_Beijing: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Inonewordraider: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Jesusraiderjim: Alameda Ta’amu (Washington)
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Mike Martin (Michigan)
SouthTexasRaider: Brandon Thompson (Clemson)
Raider O: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
RaiderRetribution: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
DJ Johnny: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Hardline: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
SilverNBlackPA: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
No Mas Diamante: Mychal Kendricks (Cal)
Bcz24: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Antispy3: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Blackmamba_20: Sammy Brown (Houston U)
Raiderinparadise: Keenan Robinson (Texas)
Marley Bob: Emmanuel Acho (Texas)
Marks Hair: Dontari Poe (Memphis)
Raiderzmaverick: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Raiderjambo: Sean Spence (Miami U)
SR Raider: Sean Spence (Miami U)
Da Trinity: Sean Spence (Miami U)
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
Big Foot is a size 11: Tyrone Crawford (Boise St)
THE BLACKHOLE: Whitney Mercilus (Illinois)
JLofty: Trumaine Johnson (Montana)
LA to TheBay: Josh Robinson (USF)
Qodrn1: Josh Robinson (USF)
Mark Clemens: Josh Robinson (USF)
Plunketthead: Josh Robinson (USF)
RaidO: Josh Robinson (USF)
Dakota: Ladarius Green (Louisiana-Lafayette)
Deja vu: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
The Oracle: Nigel Bradham (Florida State)
Raider Dell: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
ToneMcFresh: Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
Tjbwall: Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma U)
PurpleDrank81: Shea McClellin (Boise State)
GG: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Raiders for life: Michael Brewster (Ohio State)
Oldschoolraider: David Molk (Michigan)
Raiderman99: Isaiah Pead (Cincinnati)
Just Win Baby: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
ELWAYs TEETH: Robert Turbin (Utah State)
Twocents: Greg Childs (Arkansas)
DT42: Brock Osweiler (Arizona State)
April 4th, 2012 at 9:59 am
alright, thanks fella’s!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Romney likes cheesy grits, so he says. wow.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Hwnrdr,
Like is too short, and you can’t take anything with you to the afterlife. I like to eat, smoke, have sex, and traveling. I also like making money so I can continue to enjoy these things. I will die (heart-attack most likely) with a smile on my face after I smoke some nice Cali green.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Dennis Dickson > Rhett Bomar
April 4th, 2012 at 10:06 am
517.DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:52 am
hwnrdr Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Good One O! I didn’t like it either but it has help me lose some weight…I lost almost 20 pounds, well, that and doing a bit of weights…you know, food on fork, lift from plate to mouth…repeat!
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Hwrdr, pumping weights?
Will I be able to recognize you, next home game?
LOL, yeah you will…not trying to get buff, huge or whatever…just trying to toned down and get a little healthier…
We all know that taigating season, all diets are off!!!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:49 am
McGee & Owens to replace Schilens & Housh on the 53 ???
Ausberry to replace Boss?
Goodson to replace Bush?
Briesel replaces Satele on the starting OL?
Pryor #2 QB instead of Boller?
I’m good with it.
*******
Taiwan is going to beat out Goodson as RB2
Pryor is going to battle it out with a vet QB for QB2
I don’t see McGee making the roster. I do like bringing in TO though.
Ausberry needs to learn how to block to be a TE1 for this team. I like Gordon better at this point.
I like Bresiel at RG, but I’m shaky at best on Cooper as our LG. We need an upgrade maybe in the draft. I also don’t like Barnes at RT. Hope that Barks can beat him out.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:06 am
522.Raider O Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Hwnrdr,
Like is too short, and you can’t take anything with you to the afterlife. I like to eat, smoke, have sex, and traveling. I also like making money so I can continue to enjoy these things. I will die (heart-attack most likely) with a smile on my face after I smoke some nice Cali green.
That is true!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am
#522 –
…and my turn-ons are: organic smokes, barbecued ribs, Jameson, hookers dressed up like Raiderettes, and bloggin’ with my homies …
April 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am
498.DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:42 am
So what time today will we announce the Tollefson signing? (Reggie will have him signed before the end of the day)
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I think Reggie is working on the Branch deal first to free up the $$$ THEN offer Tollefson a contract.
I don’t see that happening by the end of the day but I could be wrong.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Dakota,
Or maybe the answer is to stop using so damn much. Occam’s razor: all being equal, simpler solution/ explanation is better than complex one.
White boy lost his mind. Wants me to run for energy?!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Branch deal will get worked out today or tomorrow — I say give it ’till Saturday for Tollefson.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Tollefson is gonna visit with the Titans and then he can choose between the 4 teams interested in him.
if he doesn’t want to be a Raider, tell him to go kick rocks.
we have enough guys on the roster willing to go to the highest bidder, collecting a paycheck. with no loyalty to the Raiders whatsoever
I’m not willing to break the bank for a 29 year old reserve D-Lineman. I don’t see him taking any playing time away from the starters or fellow reserve Desmond Bryant
April 4th, 2012 at 10:13 am
raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Branch deal will get worked out today or tomorrow — I say give it ’till Saturday for Tollefson.
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I don’t think Reggie wants Tollefson to visit the Titans. If he really wants to sign him, he’ll get it done no later than 2morrow morning.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Hwnrdr;
Send me a shout (thomjones72@yahoo.com) – it’s a filtered e-mail account. I’ve been blogging with you guys for about two years and want to hook up with your crew when the regular season kicks off in Oakland. I’m coming from D.C.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I don’t see him taking any playing time away from the starters or fellow reserve Desmond Bryant
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I do.
We need pass rushers.
+ dude can stand tall and play some LB if we need him 2.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I really doubt Pryor is going to be the #2 QB. I don’t think the Raiders view a developmental QB who hasn’t thrown an NFL pass as insurance for Carson Palmer.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
I don’t want to sign Tollefson just for the sake of saying Reggie is 5-for-5 in getting guys who visit signed..
if he can be a productive bench player for 2 years and doesn’t cost a lot, sign him
getting into a bidding war for an average player is beyond stupid. Hopefully those days are long gone
April 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Dennis Dickson > Rhett Bomar
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3 legged goat> Rhett Bomar
April 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Well, I hope that Branch’s deal doesn’t screw it up…I don’t think it will, though!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
As far as “breaking bank” on Tollefson – not going to happen. He’s a replacement for Moss and Scott. Veteran depth. That’s it.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
YoungAmerican Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I really doubt Pryor is going to be the #2 QB. I don’t think the Raiders view a developmental QB who hasn’t thrown an NFL pass as insurance for Carson Palmer.
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He’ll be #2 after he beats out whomever his competition is in training camp.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
I wonder Volek’s asking price is?
April 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
#535
Troy Smith > Terrelle Pryor
Troy Smith can’t get a starting job anywhere
T. Pryor best served by changing positions
April 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
(what)
April 4th, 2012 at 10:18 am
533.raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Hwnrdr;
Send me a shout (thomjones72@yahoo.com) – it’s a filtered e-mail account. I’ve been blogging with you guys for about two years and want to hook up with your crew when the regular season kicks off in Oakland. I’m coming from D.C.
Sounds good!
Ok, give me a minute, I’ll shoot you an email!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:18 am
We need pass rushers.
+ dude can stand tall and play some LB if we need him 2.
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@DMAC
Tollefson is a DE/DT like Tyler Brayton or Chris Cooper back in the day.
He’s not a DE/OLB like Trevor Scott, Jarvis Moss, Kam Wimbley or Quinton Groves
April 4th, 2012 at 10:19 am
He’ll be #2 after he beats out whomever his competition is in training camp.
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If that happens, great. That means he somehow took a massive leap this offseason.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hey Hwnrdr
I accidently lost all my #’s.
Shoot me an email w/ your # please.
yeris510@yahoo.com
April 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:18 am
We need pass rushers.
+ dude can stand tall and play some LB if we need him 2.
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@DMAC
Tollefson is a DE/DT like Tyler Brayton or Chris Cooper back in the day.
He’s not a DE/OLB like Trevor Scott, Jarvis Moss, Kam Wimbley or Quinton Groves
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I think your mistaken RRS.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:22 am
I really doubt Pryor is going to be the #2 QB. I don’t think the Raiders view a developmental QB who hasn’t thrown an NFL pass as insurance for Carson Palmer.
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@YA
is Goodson not the replacement for Bush?
a 3rd string RB special teamer that fumbles a lot??
Reggie is counting on the Raider coaches to develop some of these young players!!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Taiwan is going to beat out Goodson as RB2
Pryor is going to battle it out with a vet QB for QB2
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Truth
April 4th, 2012 at 10:23 am
18 hours ago – The New York Giants made UFA DE Dave Tollefson an offer to return, but other options has driven his price up.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
T. Pryor best served by changing positions
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Based on what?
Did RM DA AS or GK reccomend this????
April 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
I don’t think there is a “replacement” for Bush. I just think the Raiders are focused on having more depth at RB, and competition in camp. Miller, Jackson, and Goodson will all have a chance to prove themselves.
QB will be no different. I fully expect a veteran to be added.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
So if we lose Tollefson the sky will not be falling.
We’ll have to muddle through somehow.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Toffelson is 6′4 266. He is not a DT. He can rush the passer from the DT position in passing situations, but he is not a DT. Same as J Tuck. He is a DE.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
I really doubt Pryor is going to be the #2 QB. I don’t think the Raiders view a developmental QB who hasn’t thrown an NFL pass as insurance for Carson Palmer.
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AS, knows TP better than anyone at this point.
We will ALL know what TP real soon, and what the plans are….Anything else from me or anyone outside the org is opinion, or speculation.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I know Goodson can catch a ball out of the back field and has great speed.
I know about his fumblitis, but can this dude block and pick up blitzes?
April 4th, 2012 at 10:27 am
The fact that were in the middle of working on Tyvon Branch’s new contract has me thinking that Reggie wants Tollefson
April 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
547.DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hey Hwnrdr
I accidently lost all my #’s.
Shoot me an email w/ your # please.
yeris510@yahoo.com
I’ll probably just send you a text…same number right?
April 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Pryor @TerrellePryorReply
Retweet
If I’m not studying play book I’m playing tiger woods golf ha #addicted
April 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Remember – Pryor was a HueJack pick. I don’t believe he is going to be phased in to the plans. We’re best served going for a veteran back-up. Now, if T. Pryor makes some huge strides between now and the end of training camp, I’ll be the first one to step forward and say, “Hey, I was wrong!”
April 4th, 2012 at 10:29 am
hwnrdr Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
547.DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hey Hwnrdr
I accidently lost all my #’s.
Shoot me an email w/ your # please.
yeris510@yahoo.com
I’ll probably just send you a text…same number right?
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yes sir
April 4th, 2012 at 10:29 am
got it
April 4th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Remember – Pryor was a HueJack pick. I don’t believe he is going to be phased in to the plans.
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So was CPalmer, DMO,Wiz, as examples…
If the org feels he can play the qb position, he will get a shot…If not he will get jettison, plain and simple…
I am of the belief he will beat out who ever comes in…
April 4th, 2012 at 10:32 am
raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Hwnrdr;
Send me a shout (thomjones72@yahoo.com) – it’s a filtered e-mail account. I’ve been blogging with you guys for about two years and want to hook up with your crew when the regular season kicks off in Oakland. I’m coming from D.C.
**************Raidertbone, i am just outside of D.C.
work in Mrrlow Heights. where are you?
April 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Tbone…just sent you an email…
April 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
DMAC, cool!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:36 am
To anybody in the know …
what’s the word on Bernard Berrian?
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
TJONES > goodson
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
1 NATION
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
r8ER Mike:
Fairfax (also known as “Fair-neck) VA
April 4th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Thec Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
TJONES > goodson
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I luv Jones, but I want the better blocker back there.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Michael Gehlken @UTgehlken
Chargers are in contract discussions with reserve tackle Mario Henderson, league source says. No deal finalized. Yet to cross that bridge.
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PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN.
I would love nothing more than to see the Chargers have to trot Mario out onto the field after Gaither inevitably has to sit due to some random injury.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
If Goodson can hang onto the ball, I like the addition!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Toffelson is 6′4 266. He is not a DT. He can rush the passer from the DT position in passing situations, but he is not a DT. Same as J Tuck. He is a DE.
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@ Raider O
exactly my point, thank you
seen Tollefson line up at DT on occasion in New York, not OLB
otherwise his “natural” position is base DE
April 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
#573 – I would love to see Mario across the line from an angry Richard Seymour!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
r8ER Mike:
Fairfax (also known as “Fair-neck) VA
************
oh damn you are only about 20 minutes from here.
we will have to hook up for a few cold beers some tasty buds and a Raider game on t.v.
some of the left coast guys might be comeing this way when we play the Ravens this year have to make it one big Baltimore party !!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:46 am
I would love to see Mario across the line from an angry Richard Seymour!
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@Tbone
the last time these two faced eachother, Mario won!
remember “Super Mario” starting for Kwame Harris at LT besting Seymour in New England & Mario Williams in Houston and getting major props for it?
April 4th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Outside of his technical/intellectual development, whether TP gets a shot at number 2 depends on two things:
> Knapp’s passing offense as designed to be run by CPalmer. If it is at all like last year, Palmer will be in the pocket and running a lot of no huddle – essentially calling plays (which is awesome) at the line ala Manning. TP cannot run this type of passing O.
> Whether Saunders and Knapp install a package to use TP as a read option threat like Tebow. TP would come in and out of the game, which I think means he has to be the #2 QB if the #1 is not hurt.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
571.raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
r8ER Mike:
Fairfax (also known as “Fair-neck) VA
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If you see Cheney leaving the Innova hospital in Fairfax, do me a big fave…hit the gas. Just to test that new heart…
April 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
God is gud
April 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
of course, you never know which Seymour is gonna show up on Sundays..
the dominant one who stuffs the run and gets 2 sacks spending all day behind the L.O.S. or the nonexistant one who might not even pressure the QB, make a tackle or swat a pass
he plays when he wants to, like Albert Haynesworth or Randy Moss
April 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
My understanding is that Knapp runs a lot of bootleg, moving pocket stuff, not what Palmer ran here last year.
Seems to fit TP’s style.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
561.raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Remember – Pryor was a HueJack pick. I don’t believe he is going to be phased in to the plans. We’re best served going for a veteran back-up. Now, if T. Pryor makes some huge strides between now and the end of training camp, I’ll be the first one to step forward and say, “Hey, I was wrong!”
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Pryor was NOT a HueJax pick. He was an Al Davis pick. All the proof you need is the fact that HueJax gave Pryor ONE SNAP in a game, and then he wasn’t even active for the rest of the season.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
the last time these two faced eachother, Mario won!
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That was Mario in his PRIME tho…lol
That reminds me, I gotta apologize here to Barry Sims. I ragged on him pretty hard and then look at the crapola that followed.
Now I have perspective on bad LTs.
http://www.barrysims.net/Photos/121206_3.html
April 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
> Knapp’s passing offense as designed to be run by CPalmer. If it is at all like last year, Palmer will be in the pocket and running a lot of no huddle – essentially calling plays (which is awesome) at the line ala Manning. TP cannot run this type of passing O.
> Whether Saunders and Knapp install a package to use TP as a read option threat like Tebow. TP would come in and out of the game, which I think means he has to be the #2 QB if the #1 is not hurt.
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1. We have no idea whether or not Pryor can ran an offense where he calls plays at the line. This is just a guess on your part.
2. The rule that says the 3rd qb can’t come in to the game before the 4th quarter or the other 2 qbs HAVE to sit the rest of the game was removed last season. You can rotate your #3 qb in at anytime.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
My understanding is that Knapp runs a lot of bootleg, moving pocket stuff, not what Palmer ran here last year.
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I expect him to cater to CPs strengths. To what degree I don’t know. I doubt Knapp runs the same passing game as he did with McCown here. That would suck.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Watch the Niner vs Giant Playoff Game and you’ll notice that Tollefson played most of the time as DT and the same thing went for the seen in the rest of the season….I remember a tweet by Mike Garafolo saying that Tollefson played someting like 60% of his snaps at DT
April 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Knapp did fine with Mike Vick & Jeff Garcia (mobile QB’s)
he also did fine with Matt Schaub & Matt Hasselbeck (statue QB’s)
whether it’s Palmer or Pryor at QB, our offense will be fine imo
Knapp’s offense will be run-run-run or run-run-pass. He’s the most run-oriented play caller in the past 10+ years. Those that think we’re gonna be pass happy just because that seems to be the trend in this league nowadays are in for a rude awakening.
McKenzie isn’t into whats popular. He’s interested in what is right. Look at Palmer’s interception history and the youth of his intended targets heading into 2012. We will be the #1 rushing team in the NFL next year and Carson will take his deep shots down the field because they won’t be able to double anybody, respecting the run. Tossing it over their heads, as Palmer put it.
2012 Raiders = AFC West Champs!!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am
1. We have no idea whether or not Pryor can ran an offense where he calls plays at the line. This is just a guess on your part.
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A guess? He is a totally unexperienced rookie at pro set passing. NO rookie would start running no huddle calling plays at the line, certainly not one from a spread game in college. No guessing.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am
577.R8ER MIKE Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
raidertbone Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
r8ER Mike:
Fairfax (also known as “Fair-neck) VA
************
oh damn you are only about 20 minutes from here.
we will have to hook up for a few cold beers some tasty buds and a Raider game on t.v.
some of the left coast guys might be comeing this way when we play the Ravens this year have to make it one big Baltimore party !!
YES!!!
The pre-season schedule comes out today…I say in a week or two, the regular season schedule will be out!
April 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am
2. The rule that says the 3rd qb can’t come in to the game before the 4th quarter or the other 2 qbs HAVE to sit the rest of the game was removed last season. You can rotate your #3 qb in at anytime.
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Thats good to know, ty.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
589
I can dig it
April 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Palmer just said he’s been working on his footwork in anticipation of Knapp’s offense.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:59 am
What are you talking about. Lots of college QBs that ran a spread went to the line with more than one play…
April 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
I doubt Knapp runs the same passing game as he did with McCown here. That would suck.
***
@BSJ
Knapp was play caller for only 4 games during his 2-year tenure here and all 4 he was handcuffed by having JaWalrus as starting QB
we actually won 1 of those 4 games, LOL
Greg Knapp = COY??
April 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
And Pryor has been with the team for the better part of a year… I am pretty sure he learned SOMETHING by now.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:01 am
No doubt that Pryor is a gifted athelete, but in the pocket, even a rolling one, you still need zip and accuracy. I don’t see that with his throws. He is focused on his primary read and after that he’s liable to tuck and run if it’s not there. He needs to go through an entire crash course with Knapp to be ready just to operate the offense. Not saying he can’t do it, but he’s nowhere near ready to be #2 right now, and it’s going to be a steep learning curve to be the #2 by opening day.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:01 am
I pray that Saunders doesn’t have to take over as our OC, because if that’s the case we’ll probably be 1-5.
Saunders > Knapp
April 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am
How is it a given that Pryor has learned SOMETHING by now? Brand new regime, new coaches, new WCO…lot of new stuff to process.
But he does have that one play last year, that didn’t count.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I’m not feeling the run-run-run or run-run-pass strategy. Sound like more Bed & Breakfast stuff that will lead to Lechler wearing out his leg.
This is a passing league. We need to open it up and take shots down the field and do it at will on any down.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Bcz,
Who is this spread college QB who came to the NFL as a rookie and was running no huddle, making calls at the line? With NO snaps under his belt?
April 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am
How is it a given that Pryor has learned SOMETHING by now? Brand new regime, new coaches, new WCO…lot of new stuff to process.
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He still learned a pro style offense, and practiced in it for all of last season, and worked with an NFL QB coach the 6 weeks he was suspended
April 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Saunders > Knapp
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@DMAC
Al Saunders hasn’t been a play caller since his days with the Washington Redskins in 2007, where he failed miserably
what are you basing this off of?
KC 2001-2005 ???
you think he’s a better OC because he has a bigger playbook that Hue Jackson used to call plays from?
I don’t understand why people think Saunders is better than Knapp.. blows my mind
ROG claims this all the time, but it always ends up being hatred because he has coached the 49ers previously
April 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
If Tebow can play QB, I don’t know why it’s assumed, Pryor can’t.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
My guess is that Knapp will heavily influence the run game but that Saunders and Palmer will get a lot of input in how the passing game is structured.
Why would we want Moore, DHB and Ford to learn a whole new route tree as such newbies? This is why Saunders is still here.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Saunders > Knapp
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@DMAC
Al Saunders hasn’t been a play caller since his days with the Washington Redskins in 2007, where he failed miserably
what are you basing this off of?
KC 2001-2005 ???
you think he’s a better OC because he has a bigger playbook that Hue Jackson used to call plays from?
I don’t understand why people think Saunders is better than Knapp.. blows my mind
ROG claims this all the time, but it always ends up being hatred because he has coached the 49ers previously
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My eyes are witness.
Saunders > Knapp
I just hope Knapp get w/ the fk’n program and is successful.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Only you say he can’t KK.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Winning the NFL rushing title isn’t anything I think we need to make a priority.
NY Giants finished dead last in rushing and won a Super Bowl.
That’s all you need to know.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Who is this spread college QB who came to the NFL as a rookie and was running no huddle, making calls at the line? With NO snaps under his belt?
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Who is the Rookie qb that came in to the NFL and threw for over 4,000 yards and rushed for over 700 yards… Cam Newton did it. There is a first time for everything.
Pryor practiced with the team for an entire season. Most ‘rookie’ qbs don’t have that.
Im not saying Pryor CAN run a no huddle offense. I am just disagreeing with you that he CAN’T. Unless you can show me some empirical evidence to support that it is nothing more than conjecture on your part.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:11 am
He still learned a pro style offense, and practiced in it for all of last season.
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TP said he had a “package” put in by Hue. Not likely it was “pro style” unless wildcat is now pro style.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I’m not feeling the run-run-run or run-run-pass strategy.
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@G123
when we’re winning ballgames, you wont mind it so much
you want the gunslinger Palmer tossing it up for grabs all the time like Favre or Cutler?? to a bunch of young unproven WR’s with a brand new playbook & position coach?
yeah – count me out
April 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am
So whats up w/ Reece?
Did we resign him or what?
April 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Im not saying Pryor CAN run a no huddle offense. I am just disagreeing with you that he CAN’T.
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I just know he can’t THIS FALL.
Sure am glad you think Cam Newton fell into our lap from the Buckeye tree. Dime a dozen.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Working on foot work? CP tree trunk will not make through the season. Get ready for TP time.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
to a bunch of young unproven WR’s with a brand new playbook & position coach?
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Obviously, because you know Sanjay Lal was so damn good!
April 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Pryor practiced with the team for an entire season.
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Duh he missed camp and 5 games.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I can say this about Knapp. His playbook probably will have CP3 cut down on those bone headed INT’s.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Winning the NFL rushing title isn’t anything I think we need to make a priority.
NY Giants finished dead last in rushing and won a Super Bowl.
That’s all you need to know.
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@G123
if the Texans have Matt Schaub instead of TJ Yates, I think they win the SB trophy instead (even if Andre Johnson sits)
you have to have a balanced offense. With Palmer & DMAC, I think we’ll have that. Palmer can still throw for 4,000 yards and 20+ TD’s if we’re the #1 rushing team in football
Don’t just assume that a run-first team wont be passing the football at all. If that were the case, Palmer might as well kick rocks and let’s sign Matt Leinart
April 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Once again run heavy teams do not win super bowls. If that is the direction this team is going then the season is already over.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
let’s sign Matt Leinart
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co-sign!
April 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaidO Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Once again run heavy teams do not win super bowls. If that is the direction this team is going then the season is already over.
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I disagree.
How do you stop a high powered passing offense?
April 4th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Obviously, because you know Sanjay Lal was so damn good!
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hey man, Lal had a job lined up with the Jets before his Oakland contract even expired!!
he had a new job before Waufle, Fassel & Henry did
obviously somebody thought he did a fine job with guys like DHB, Moore, Ford, Schilens & Murphy
April 4th, 2012 at 11:25 am
TP said he had a “package” put in by Hue. Not likely it was “pro style” unless wildcat is now pro style.
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TP said he knew and practiced the whole playbook.
He was with the team for the last 2 weeks of preseason, and had an NFL QB coach working with him privately for his entire suspension. I would think it is a safe guess they didn’t spend 6 weeks working on that designed run that Hue called against KC.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaidO Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Once again run heavy teams do not win super bowls. If that is the direction this team is going then the season is already over.
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I disagree.
How do you stop a high powered passing offense?
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Hate to say this, but the Whiners probably would of beaten the Pats in the super bowl, if it wasn’t for that fumble.
Are they not a run heavy team?
Defense wins championships!
The way you stop or contain a high powered passing offense is to be able to run the ball succesfully, so that opposing offenses don’t send their QB on the field to do damage.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:30 am
the Raiders have been built to snuff out the pass for YEARS under Al Davis. our priority in the draft & free agency was always in the secondary.
how many games have we won since the Super Bowl loss to TB?
not nearly enough. not even a playoff appearance
how many fewer games did we win after losing Nnamdi Asomugha to Philly, CJ37 missing basically the entire season, Huff missing 4 games, Chuck B as DC and Routt getting 17 flags?
none! 8-8 again
Toast Routt, Sheppard & Giordano off the street, rookies DVD and Chekwa
the Raiders aren’t built to pass the ball & stop the pass any longer. Reggie & Dennis are defensive minded guys that want to get back to smashmouth football. DA was a donkey last year, was passing their strength? GK was a houston boot last year, was passing their strength?
WAKE UP and smell the coffee!!
April 4th, 2012 at 11:31 am
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@ Raider O
exactly my point, thank you
seen Tollefson line up at DT on occasion in New York, not OLB
otherwise his “natural” position is base DE
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Natural position is DE in 4-3 base
Only time Tollefson was used as DT was in Nickel or obvious passing downs to send a passrush of Tuck,JPP,Osi,Tollefson
Packers scheduled visit with Tollefson with hopes of him taking over Eric Walden’s position OLB on the other side of Clay Matthews, so thats not out of the question
April 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Coffee smelss good…at 5:30 AM…lol
April 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Packers scheduled visit with Tollefson with hopes of him taking over Eric Walden’s position OLB on the other side of Clay Matthews, so thats not out of the question
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yeah, I know Dave played some OLB in college too.
He’s 29 years old though and he’s never done it (to my knowledge) in the pros
April 4th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Coffee smells good…at 5:30 AM
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@Hwnrdr
hey man, coffee still smells good at 1:30pm in Podunk
April 4th, 2012 at 11:38 am
2012 NFL Preseason schedule set to be unveiled at 12:00 PST (3:00 here on the East Coast) — about 15 minutes from now.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:38 am
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yeah, I know Dave played some OLB in college too.
He’s 29 years old though and he’s never done it (to my knowledge) in the pros
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Mario Williams,Lamarr Woodley & lots of kids coming outta college will be asked to come in and stand up
Raiders defense as a whole will be asked to do things that they have never done before..it just comes with the NFL
Maybe they’ll be asked to stop the run!?!?
April 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Coffee smells good…at 5:30 AM
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@Hwnrdr
hey man, coffee still smells good at 1:30pm in Podunk
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Skunky weed, smells better at anytime of the day.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
So critical of our new system when we haven’t even played one down. Of course there will be first season obstacles. I can only imagine what the criticism will be like in here then.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Is Hagan still out there?
Bring back Hagan!!
April 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
I find it interesting that the same folks that are worried about Knapp emphasizing the run are the same folks that are suggesting that Pryor get his shot this year because Tebow got his last year.
If “run-heavy offenses don’t win in today’s NFL” why would you want Pryor out there at this poiñt in his career? Did you people wàtch Denver play last year?
Pryor is no better a passer right now than Tebow was last year. Do you really want to see that nonsense on the field in Oakland? I know I don’t.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
#632
Things the defense has never done before:
1. Hold onto leads late
2. Exhibit skills in dropping back into pass coverage
3. Not jumping offsides
4. Fundamental tackling
5. Not getting stiff-armed to the ground (well okay, Hiram is no longer here – the rest of the defense gets a pass on that one!)
6. Getting nasty without getting unnecessary penalties
April 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Pryor is no better a passer right now than Tebow was last year
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Link? Source?
April 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
R8ER Mike:
You still on?
April 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
637^^^^^^^^^
True dat!
April 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Skunky weed, smells better at anytime of the day.
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how very true !!!!
April 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Raiders wont’ be the same without Al. Which means we’ll never go 7 years straight losing 11 or more games again.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Why do ppl keep saying goodson is fast? I thought he ran a 4.54 40.. He’s replacing rock isnt he? Not bush?
April 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
hair transplant= bush replacemant ???
April 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Marks hair Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Why do ppl keep saying goodson is fast? I thought he ran a 4.54 40.. He’s replacing rock isnt he? Not bush?
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I’ll be honest. When ever I used the Panthers on Madden. I recall Goodson was a speedy RB. Schit maybe its quickness or acceleration.
Got a nice set of wheels.
April 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Oakland Raiders punter Shane Lechler and USA Football will donate a $1,500 equipment grant to the football program at East Bernard (Texas) High School, Lechler’s alma mater.
Lechler was named to USA Football’s 2011 All-Fundamentals Team, honoring 26 NFL players who employ proper technique for younger players to emulate. Each All-Fundamentals Team player is awarded a $1,500 equipment grant from USA Football to donate to the youth or high school program of his choice.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Eastern Carolina University OT Steven Baker will visit the Raiders, Sirius XM Radio is reporting. At 6-8, 310 pounds, Baker is an impressive physical specimen, but he did not become a starter until his senior season. The Raiders, who traded OL Bruce Campbell on Friday to Carolina for RB Mike Goodson, need to add depth on the offensive line.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
The Oakland Raiders have scheduled Houston linebacker Sammy Brown for a visit, according to Scout.com. Brown is a pass-rushing 3-4 outside linebacker who led the NCAA in tackles for a loss last season, with 28. Brown also finished the season with 12.5 sacks. He has both size and decent speed, standing at 6′2″ tall and weighing in at 243 pounds, while running a 4.63 40 yard dash.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Rockstar,
Look at any pre-draft scouting report on Pryor. Read anything written about him inhere by McDonald or Corkran,who have seen him practice as a Raider. Watch his college games.
Look, I want the kid to succeed. He’s a Raider. I would rather he has the time to develop properly than put him out there because some other dude did it last year. That is just flawed logic.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Raiders are on national TV (ESPN) on Monday night, August 13th vs. Cowboys (in Oakland)
April 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
#620, agree completely!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
guest123 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
#620, agree completely!
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Did you read my take on that?
post 625
April 4th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
State of the Franchise: Raiders
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d828117d3/State-of-the-Franchise-Raiders?module=HP11_content_stream
April 4th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
guest123 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
#620, agree completely!
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Did you read my take on that?
post 625
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Here’s my counter….
Both Super Bowl teams were potent passing attacks and running was a sidebar. The other favorites to be there, Green Bay and New Orleans were very similar teams, (even though NO was great running the ball).
All the coulda, shoulda’s argument tells me is that relying on a running attack and strong defense with game manager QB is a recipe for cutting it extremely close with all the things that have to go right to win on any given Sunday. Bad luck can easily derail those types of teams.
But teams with high power QB’s that can light up the scoreboard with 90 second 4 play drives, those cats go up by 3 scores and the defense takes over. They allow the other team to make mistakes in desparation mode.
I tell you which team I want to be.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
guest123 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
guest123 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
#620, agree completely!
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Did you read my take on that?
post 625
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Here’s my counter….
Both Super Bowl teams were potent passing attacks and running was a sidebar. The other favorites to be there, Green Bay and New Orleans were very similar teams, (even though NO was great running the ball).
All the coulda, shoulda’s argument tells me is that relying on a running attack and strong defense with game manager QB is a recipe for cutting it extremely close with all the things that have to go right to win on any given Sunday. Bad luck can easily derail those types of teams.
But teams with high power QB’s that can light up the scoreboard with 90 second 4 play drives, those cats go up by 3 scores and the defense takes over. They allow the other team to make mistakes in desparation mode.
I tell you which team I want to be.
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Fair enough.
I guess we agree to disagree.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@G123
hey man, if DMAC & Jones both get hurt (again) and Goodson is a fumble machine we may have no choice but to go pass happy … in which case Palmer will have 20 INT’s by Week 10 and you’ll be calling for my boy Terrelle Pryor!!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
HUGE NEWS PART II, PARTY NERDS
Brahs, word has spread like wildfire through the blog about the launching of my new boy band, 2 Kool 4 Skool.
Pretty soon you’ll be able to join our official fan club, the 2 Kool 4 Skool Krew. Membership is $2,300 per year not including monthly service charges and escalating dues.
Last night we filled the position of the “shy” member with the dweeby delivery guy from Little Caesar’s.
He’s shopping at Abercrombie & Fitch today, then getting his pubes waxed after Olive Garden.
Gonna have some more auditions today and then get over to Super Cuts for a trim. Probably lock up a sponsorship deal as well, gotta get 2K4S on some TV ads asap
Yo, this project is going to bring in mad cheddar, you’re all witnesses to the new era
LEBRON CAN’T STEP TO THE POWER OF THE NEW SKOOL
April 4th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
The Chiefs announced Wednesday that they have re-signed free agent cornerback Travis Daniels.
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they sniffed Chris Carr and opted to re-sign Daniels instead?
LOL, poor Christina
join Stu Schweigert in the UFL buddy
April 4th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
645. Fast on madden?. Goofy
April 4th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Go Heat!!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I love the spring……The NFL Draft and Squirrel Hunting
April 4th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Bring back J. Moss and Q. Groves for depth! I’d also sign T.O. as long as it’s vet min. and a performance based contract.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I love the spring……The NFL Draft and Squirrel Hunting
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Where do you live? I can’t hunt Squirrel till Sept in Ma.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Go Heat!!
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It was great to see the Heat all out dominated by the Celtics on sunday!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Bring back J. Moss and Q. Groves for depth! I’d also sign T.O. as long as it’s vet min. and a performance based contract.
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co-signed, jhawk
I’ll take Moss, Groves, Giordano & Heyer back after Branch signs a long term deal and frees up some cash
Reggie, whats the hold up on the 5-year $15 million contract for T-Branch??
Could it be that his agent is asking for 6-years $50 million after you placed the franchise tag on him??
April 4th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Marks hair Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
645. Fast on madden?. Goofy
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Goofy? No.
You asked a question and I answered it for you buddy.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Thunder vs Heat finals!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I live in the Bay Area but hunt out of Sonora
April 4th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Vet minimum for a 10 year guy like TO is $925K.
Still a nice chunk of change when you look at some of the other guys on the roster.
But Fck it! I co-sign on Terrel Owens as a Raider!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I live in the Bay Area but hunt out of Sonora
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what’s the overall hunting scene like out there?
April 4th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Hey, anyone seen KrappyKell?
We’re looking for an old fool to wander on stage during our 2 Kool 4 Skool concert and get blasted by smelly green goo.
The kids will go nuts and the parents will mistakenly think they’re getting their money’s worth.
The audition is pretty simple – we’ll just hose down Krappy for 2.5 hours with smell green goo and then see if he’s still breathing
WORDY WORD FRESH
April 4th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I predict that, within days of signing Tyvon Branch to a new long-term deal, RM will sign the legitimate backup QB that he has said he needs to have.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
It was great to see the Heat all out dominated by the Celtics on sunday!
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@HB
it was great to see the Lakers get beat by Memphis & OKC last week, too!!
too bad you can’t play the W’s every night, eh?
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I rather sign Jerome Simpson w/ his 4 game suspension, than T.O. any day.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@655 DMAC
agree! Peace.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Barber says Wonderlic test doesn’t matter
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Who the Fk cares what he says
April 4th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I rather sign Jerome Simpson w/ his 4 game suspension, than T.O. any day.
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I can do a flip into the endzone, Do u want to sign me?
April 4th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
You know it’s not really as bad as most people think…It is a little crowded but have some beautiful bucks taken the past couple years….When I do hunt squirrel I do I get permits from the state for pest control reasons.. In Sonora though the Squirrels look like small dogs lol..Those are the good eaten 1’s…A little fatty but if you boil first they come out great
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@Teach
if Goodson is considered a legitimate backup RB, I guess Leinart qualifies for a legitimate backup QB ??
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
It was great to see the Heat all out dominated by the Celtics on sunday!
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@HB
it was great to see the Lakers get beat by Memphis & OKC last week, too!!
too bad you can’t play the W’s every night, eh?
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I feel bad for Warriors fans, It’s always playoffs…next year.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I rather sign Jerome Simpson w/ his 4 game suspension, than T.O. any day.
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I can do a flip into the endzone, Do u want to sign me?
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Hell to the no!
I guess you didn’t get a chance to see Simpson play 2 much.
Simpson > T.O.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
*Have seen
April 4th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
It was great to see the Heat all out dominated by the Celtics on sunday!
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@HB
it was great to see the Lakers get beat by Memphis & OKC last week, too!!
too bad you can’t play the W’s every night, eh?
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I feel bad for Warriors fans, It’s always playoffs…next year.
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Sadly, same could be said for our Raiders.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
everyone wants to play the warriors every night
April 4th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I can do a flip into the endzone, Do u want to sign me?
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re-sign Johnnie Lee!!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I feel the w’s brought a curse to oakland..
April 4th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
You know it’s not really as bad as most people think…It is a little crowded but have some beautiful bucks taken the past couple years….When I do hunt squirrel I do I get permits from the state for pest control reasons.. In Sonora though the Squirrels look like small dogs lol..Those are the good eaten 1’s…A little fatty but if you boil first they come out great
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They are good eatin, just a lot of work to clean.
Hopefully this will be my year to get my 1st buck. Last year my friend shot one and I did all the work, It’s my turn. I have been going out the last 5 seasons. I think I may try bow season, It seems like by the time I get out there for shotgun season most of the deer have been picked over. At least in my area.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I rather sign Jerome Simpson w/ his 4 game suspension, than T.O. any day.
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I can do a flip into the endzone, Do u want to sign me?
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Hell to the no!
I guess you didn’t get a chance to see Simpson play 2 much.
Simpson > T.O.
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I haven’t really been on board for signing T.O. but I think I would take him over Simpson at least this year. Just for “swagger reasons” I did watch Simpson play last year on NFL ticket. I did not watch every game, but from what I saw besides a couple plays he looked mediocre.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
I havent done to much hunting in the past couple of years do to working so much but I guess things could be worst…. Good luck getting your 1st deer…Man I cant imagine hunting deer with a shotgun thats gotta be interesting
April 4th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
DMAC Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
It was great to see the Heat all out dominated by the Celtics on sunday!
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@HB
it was great to see the Lakers get beat by Memphis & OKC last week, too!!
too bad you can’t play the W’s every night, eh?
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I feel bad for Warriors fans, It’s always playoffs…next year.
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Sadly, same could be said for our Raiders
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I try not to think about it but your absolutley right.
April 4th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I can do a flip into the endzone, Do u want to sign me?
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re-sign Johnnie Lee!!
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Ran into JLH last week.
Said business was booming.
http://www.ballerride.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/hydraulic-truck-3.jpg
April 4th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Slow news day.
Raiders holding auditions for new cheerleaders.
Time to get the wifey’s registered!
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Raiders-holding-auditions-for-new-cheerl?blockID=682220&feedID=2801
April 4th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Chargers re-signed DE Luis Castillo to a one-year contract.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Rockstar,
McKenzie has a much better idea of who and what he’s looking for than I do. Leinartprobably knows as much about the basics of what Knapp will run here as anyone, but I would think that they would go on more than just familiarity. If they thought someone else was a better fit maybe they’d bring that guy in instead.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RaidO Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:21 am
333. After sucking for so many years i have to strongly disagree with that comment. Raiders were finally on the up and up. One game away from the playoffs and before all the changes expected to be a strong playoff team this season. You say what you want about hue but that is the fact. Now they are back to square one with season having a copout if they suck. Also all these changes may not even work. Then what? Raiders suck again and you will hear a lot of should have kept hue talk. Lol
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Every action that McK has taken so far indicates he didn’t believe we were fundamentally a solid playoff team. Poor work habits. Lack of discipline. Inmates running the asylum. He’s building for the long term which is exactly what he should be doing.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Deer Hunting. A sport between an animal dependent on primal instincts due to an inferior intellectual capacity, and a deer.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Ran into JLH last week.
Said business was booming.
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@DMAC
you bassturd!!! [chris farley voice]
April 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
LMAO
April 4th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Chargers re-signed DE Luis Castillo to a one-year contract
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Would have rather signed Castillo over Tollefson!!
April 4th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
WOOOO HOOOOO …ITS 4:20 PEOPLES !!! SMOKE UP !!
PUFF PUFF PASS !!!!!!
April 4th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 4th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Chargers re-signed DE Luis Castillo to a one-year contract
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Would have rather signed Castillo over Tollefson!!
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Dude is done.
Injuries have fked his career up.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Some of you really need to go back and review the season and look at the teams we beat last year. We were an average team with tons of potential and very little depth.
If Reggie doesn’t make the changes he has, we don’t have room to grow because we’re committed to a bunch of overpaid players who contributed to an 8-8 season.
I know you’re not used to it but this is how a real football program is built for long term success instead of short-term satisfaction.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Rolando McClain’s future:
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April 4th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
new post
April 4th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
695. Solid post. Humans fear change; it’s in our nature. Reggie knows what he’s doing.
April 4th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
95th pick Brandon Thompson (Clemson Univ.)
April 6th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
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