Allen careful regarding CBA restrictions
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen says he’s done extensive research, with help from administrators Dan Ventrelle and Tom Delaney, on the new collective bargaining agreement to make sure his club doesn’t run afoul of the law.
Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer noted that Allen has been strident in making sure rules are enforced while at the same time accounting for every split-second available during the strength and conditioning phase.
“It’s kind of weird. We’ve really had only one meeting with coach Allen where he kind of introduced himself and introduced the team,” Palmer said Thursday afternoon. “There are so many rules and he’s doing a good job of making sure he doesn’t even come close to breaking a rule.
“But you can tell his hand print, his footprints, are all over everything. Everything is so organized. You can tell the plan is in place. He didn’t spend a bunch of time on it, but he let it be known his job is to come in and win a world championship.
“There’s a map to it. They’ve been very anal about the time in meetings, the amount of time we can spend in the weight room, making sure there are no infractions whatsoever. There’s a real tight focus on where he’s headed with this team and this organization. It gets you excited for the next stage, the minicamp, the OTAs, the mandatory minicamp, training camp and then of course the season.”
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April 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
YA,
What do you think of Coryell Judie from Texas A&M? The only CB in your mocks is Leonard Johnson who had great production at college, but I have my concerns due to his slow 40 and height.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
1 NATION
April 5th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Damn you Raider O….
April 5th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
his job is to come in and win a world championship
April 5th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
According to this post, Allen is doing a great job keeping things organized and ready.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
YA,
What do you think of Coryell Judie from Texas A&M? The only CB in your mocks is Leonard Johnson who had great production at college, but I have my concerns due to his slow 40 and height.
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I haven’t seen him play, to be honest. Heard he’s had some trouble with injuries, but when healthy is a solid player. Haven’t heard much else or seen him for myself, though.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Reposts shouldn’t be counted as 1st comments.LOL
April 5th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Too slow bro. Better luck next time.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Leonard Johnson’s measurables don’t really concern me. Kid can play.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
A few possible scenarios for the draft:
3rd (compensatory) – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
4th (compensatory) – OLB Sammy Brown, Houston
5th – DB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
5th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Frank Alexander, Oklahoma
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – DE/OLB Bruce Irvin, West Virginia
4th (compensatory) – OLB/DE Jonathan Massaquoi, Troy
5th – DL Jonathan Massaquoi, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OT Steven Baker, ECU
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – CB Leonard Johnson, Iowa State
4th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Jake Bequette, Arkansas
5th – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OLB/ILB Emmanuel Acho, Texas
6th – OT Matt Reynolds, BYU
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I like it…
Check this one!
3rd: Josh Chapman
4th: Sammy Brown
5th: Jonathan Massaquoi
5th: Emmanuel Acho
6th: Miles Burris
I know…too many LB’s, but that way we can’t miss!!
Lol..
April 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Its too early to get over hyped up however, I do like the direction this team is going…
April 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
A few possible scenarios for the draft:
3rd (compensatory) – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
4th (compensatory) – OLB Sammy Brown, Houston
5th – DB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
5th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Frank Alexander, Oklahoma
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – DE/OLB Bruce Irvin, West Virginia
4th (compensatory) – OLB/DE Jonathan Massaquoi, Troy
5th – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OT Steven Baker, ECU
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – CB Leonard Johnson, Iowa State
4th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Jake Bequette, Arkansas
5th – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OLB/ILB Emmanuel Acho, Texas
6th – OT Matt Reynolds, BYU
April 5th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
No they shouldn’t…1 nation, UNO, and 1st are better options.
LOL
April 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
I know…too many LB’s, but that way we can’t miss!!
Lol..
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Raiders need a lot of depth at LB. Only have 4 on the roster, one is coming back from an ACL injuries. Wouldn’t mind seeing a few LBs drafted.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
YA,you constantly mention what you’ve heard regarding players.Are you repeating what you hear from places like ESPN and the radio or do you hear actual evaluations from those that count?
April 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Great work Jerry. Thanks for keepin us up on all things Raider.
This year itr really is going year round in part because of the regime change and subsequent rebuild.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Reposts shouldn’t be counted as 1st comments.LOL
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Agreed, that post should be stricken from the record…
April 5th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
I’m getting over hyped. I get over hyped every year. I can’t help it.
WWWTW
April 5th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I like it…
Check this one!
3rd: Josh Chapman
4th: *Jonathan Massaquoi
5th: *Akiem Hicks
5th: Emmanuel Acho
6th: Miles Burris
I know…too many LB’s, but that way we can’t miss!!
Lol..
April 5th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
As for NATION knowledge, I would put the Semi’s up against anything espn has…
April 5th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
YA,you constantly mention what you’ve heard regarding players.Are you repeating what you hear from places like ESPN and the radio or do you hear actual evaluations from those that count?
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Follow a lot of people on Twitter who talk to NFL scouts. Some very good information available from football writers and evaluators alike. I try to read a lot of scouting reports. I also watch a lot of college football – I try to follow draft prospects all season and pay attention to their performances in-game. The draft fascinates me, so I spend a large part of the season (and pass time during the offseason) doing research.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Thec Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
As for NATION knowledge, I would put the Semi’s up against anything espn has…
$$$$$$$$$$
Agree 100%.
Some people like YA & Bcz know a lot about the draft and cap because they do their own research. It is not as sophisticated but just as effective if not better IMHO.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
YA=the next Mel Kiper but hopefully better.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Mel Kiper <—-Azz hizat
April 5th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Pretty exciting stuff.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
edward teach Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
And the greatest home remedy of all … BEER!!!
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At this point in the evening, I have to agree
April 5th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Whether you like him or not(I’m in the not crowd),it’s pretty amazing how Kiper worked himself into this draft guru.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Some people like YA & Bcz know a lot about the draft and cap because they do their own research. It is not as sophisticated but just as effective if not better IMHO
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And it’s very much appreciated. One of the reasons some of us come on the blog. A few of you actually know what you’re talking about
April 5th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RULES ???????? Wow.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
O Mock Draft 3.0:
3- OLB Mychal Kendricks or OLB Sean Spence
4- NT N J Baptiste
5- CB Croyell Judie
5- DE/ OLB Cordarro Law
6- FS J Jackson
April 5th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
“Everything is so organized” Wow.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Correction:
O Mock Draft 3.0:
3- OLB: Mychal Kendricks/ Sean Spence/ Bruce Irvin
4- NT N J Baptiste
5- CB Croyell Judie
5- DE/ OLB Cordarro Law
6- FS J Jackson
April 5th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
One of the those LBs will be available at 95. I can’t imagine all 3 being drafted in the top 100 picks. They all have issues. Ta’amu and Chapman will be gone before our pick IMO.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Dennis Allen running a tight ship. I like it. Instilling a bit of discipline from the outset can only help this island of misfit toys.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
FS J Jackson was kicked out of Tenn for drug issues, but this draft is not deep at S so who knows?
April 5th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
We don’t need any safeties,but RM did say he would take the best players even if we were already set at a position.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
I may be in the minority,but if we do need another S I’d rather bring back Gio than draft an unknown especially with our lack of draft choices.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Why not?
Huff, Branch, and MM. We need another FS IMO unless you think one of the CBs on our roster can play FS.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I cant wait to see what the new uniforms look like on a 380 pound lineman and those tights showing off all that goo.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Any safety we bring in will be for depth.Why not fill that spot with a known,capable player we can probably get for minimum than spend one of our few draft choices on one when we have other needs?
April 5th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Gio is a good option, but is he willing to play for the vets min. We don’t have a lot of cap space, and it is much cheaper to sign a Rookie in later rounds or after the draft than signing a vet. Good Vets will get cut after the draft, so we should be very careful to make sure we have enough cap space.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Raiders coach Dennis Allen says he’s done extensive research, with help from administrators Dan Ventrelle and Tom Delaney, on the new collective bargaining agreement to make sure his club doesn’t run afoul of the law.
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Do they have nfl police in the club houses and on the practice fields to enforce all the mumbo jumbo of cba and nfl law? Can the coach drop a duece without violating any rules?
Coach: Hey son, I want to see you pass the football.
Prospective QB: OK coach. If I can swallow it, I’ll pass it sooner or later.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I think we should get a young kid to develop, since we only need him for depth (as you said) and STs.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Only if he is projected to be better than a minimum vet.If he isn’t projected to be better,get another player at another position who might turn out to be a good BU or possibly a starter.In a normal year with a full amount of draft choices I see your point,but with our limited picks we can’t afford ‘maybe’ type players.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Why not?
Huff, Branch, and MM. We need another FS IMO unless you think one of the CBs on our roster can play FS.
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Underwood played some Fs in college
Gb had him in transition to Fs too
Who knows? I dont
April 5th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Good evening Nation!!!
Like what Allen has been saying so far…kinda to early, but keeping positive!
April 5th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Underwood played some Fs in college
Gb had him in transition to Fs too
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I noticed that too. Maybe he can play NB and FS. Offers more value.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Good evening Hwnrdr.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Yawn… Wake me up in July
April 5th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I think we should get a young kid to develop, since we only need him for depth (as you said) and STs.
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Underwood 25 & played St in Gb
April 5th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Raiders are one of 5 teams who have decided not to use the new uniforms. That includes the new fabric construct of the jerseys and pants and socks with all the built-in padding and fancy mesh pieces etc.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
J Jackson is a good FS prospect, but he had drug issues and got kicked out of Tenn. he was projected a lot higher before he had his off the field issues.
April 5th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
I think by Mckenzie letting Cartwright walk he let us know he’s not signing anybody to be “just a special teams guy”
April 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
One thing I like about our QB Palmer is his excitement level. The guy is really happy to be a Raider.
He’s probably just so excited to be looking cool in a uniform and not having to wear that ridiculous clown outfit they have in Cincy.
But seriously, can u picture Jamarcus saying the stuff Palmer does? Or even JC? I don’t ever recall a Raider QB sounding this optimistic and excited to be part of this team.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Blog Goobs, the draft is going to be sweet, can’t wait to get some gnarly freaks.
Speaking of my new boy band 2 Kewl 4 Skool (2K4S), we finished our photo session today and our hairdos looked hella tight
I blow dried, fluffed, gelled then styled my pubes but we were only doing headshots. But trust me, they would’ve looked amazing on film in the right lighting.
Still need Krappy to sign that contract to perform with us on tour.
He’ll play the crazy old fool who wanders up on stage in the middle of the show and we blast him into the 30th row with green smelly goo
I know, the role is a real stretch for the old dog, huh
FEEDIN THE BEAST FROM THE MIDDLE EAST
April 5th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I love how some of you talk about Giordano as if he’s a liability. He only picked off everything thrown in his direction last year.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Beecham, Can’t wait to see “2 Kewl 4 Skool” in action.
I hope you’re prepared for some backlash from the education community.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Beecham’s intro:
“Ladies and Gentlemen, no more rap groups that are a bad influence on our children. Put your hands together for 2Cool4School!”
April 5th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Beecham, You might have to record a song to appease the uptight people who will protest the message that the anme of your band suggests.
You might wanna try a remake of the Coasters classic “Yakety Yak”.
“Yakety Yak..don’t smoke crack”.
Just a thought.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
DJ,
That’s because Carson Palmer is a bona fide big time QB. JaMarcus was an uber talented slug. Campbell was a game manager.
As much as everyone was moaning about the trade last season, would any of you seriously prefer the No. 17 pick in the draft to Carson Palmer right now?
Honestly, honestly, and keep in mind I’m all about having a great QB, I would say the number 1 pick, the Andrew Luck pick is the only one in this draft that I’d take over Palmer.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Al Davis ruined JaMarcus Russell.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
DJ Johnny, you’ve gotta play some of our upcoming tracks on your radio show
We’re going to have plenty of subliminal messages about smoking hella weed and bareback love making, so your audience will surely love us
Need to find a way to properly fluff and style our pubes for our photo shoots without frying our nads
This afternoon I had to soak my boys in a cooling mixture of top shelf margaritas and Palmolive
April 5th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Look at JaMarcus Russell pre Raiders.
Look at JaMarcus Russell post Raiders.
Enough said. Another casualty of what Rich Gannon called the “chaos”. It would have eaten any rookie QB alive. Gannon was a seasoned veteran and it made him want to explode.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Al Davis ruined Jamarcus? Come on. I know your just a hate baiter but come on. Did Al make him gain all that weight, nod out in meetings on his cheap ass pain meds?
Yeah right! I’ll buy that the organization in its state of disorganization didn’t do the boy any favors but he had zero ambition and drive otherwise don’t u think another team would’ve taken a chance on him?
April 5th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Chris,
Yeah. I just don’t remember any Raider QB sound like he’s this much into the team since…Gannon I guess, right?
For some reason I’ve always liked Palmer…even when he was with the Bengals.
I remember the rush I got when I was driving around lsitening to Jim Rome on the radio when he announced the deal and my first thought was “YES”!!! “We actually have an elite, big name QB”. Now, I know he may not be considered to be “elite” anymore but that was just MY first thought when I heard the trade. I think he has that “eliteness” in him in the right situation.
Sure he disappointed me a bit…especially the GB game, but he had his moments where you saw it…flashes of “elite”.
I love the fact he embraces the pressure and he doesn;t seem to be afraid to make a mistake.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Russell was going nowhere but up. Sky was the limit. He was a happy kid. Full of hopes. Living his dream. Then, he stepped foot in Oakland. Live in denial all you want to. Rich Gannon was 30 when he came here and the place made him want to explode. He’s said so.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
The Russell debate is really easy to close out.
Simple.
Look at him pre Raiders, look at him post Raiders.
Enough said.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Sullivan,
Gannon was also a journeyman nobody before he got to the Raiders in his 30s and became a multi-time Championship game QB and NFL MVP. If JaMarcus had the heart and drive of a Peyton Manning or Drew Brees he could have been one of the best of all time. He just didn’t have it in him.
And I don’t blame the Raiders for drafting him, because I’m in line with Al’s philosophy of swinging big and going for upside.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
You’d be happy to if you just got 30 million dollars and all you cared about was chillin an gettin high! Wouldn’t you be happy too. But it takes a desire, dedication and a lot of hard work to be a successful QB in the NFL, regardless of the chaos here the boy clearly didn’t care from day one.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
You miss the point, Chris. Gannon was 30 years old when he got here, and the place made him want to erupt. Have you heard of any of Gannon’s interviews in the past few years about his days with the Raiders? He was 30. The chaos made concentrating “impossible”. That was the word he used. So imagine what this place does to a 22 year old kid. JaMarcus had no freakin’ chance. The Raiders’ dysfunctional culture absolutely destroyed the kid.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
It’s not about the money. What 22 year old is good at managing money anyway? I’d like to see you at 22 with millions of dollars. You’d blow it in a matter of months.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Beecham, If you get me a CD of “2kewl 4 skool” or even a good quality MP3 I PROMISE you I will find a place for it on my shift someway somehow. I mean that.
It’s not a major market audience like LA but it’d be fun.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
I know what Gannon has said, but that culture didn’t prevent him from ascending to NFL MVP. I believe he believes what he’s saying, but I think the results he achieved disprove his own claims.
April 5th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Chris, Gannon was 30. 32, I think, actually. That’s why Gannon was able to thrive. He also had a damn good coach and somewhat of an offensive system. Are incapable of grasping the difference between a 32 year old being thrown into a chaotic work environment and a 22 year old?
April 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Chris, your responses are DENIAL, DENIAL, DENIAL. Each one of them.
April 5th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Darius Flemming would be a quality mid-late round pick to add depth at LB. Jones out of Syracuse as well…
April 5th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
So what is stopping Jamarcus from losing weight and making a comeback?
Regardless of what Al supposedly did to him there’s no excuse for sleeping through meetings and not being at all committed to being a good QB.
He was last one in and first one out at practice all the time.
How is that Al’s fault?
April 5th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
I saw JR in college…..not just the bowl game.
He didn’t have it.
Crazy talent but average otherwise
April 5th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Look at him pre Raiders, look at him post Raiders.
Enough said.
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“Post” Raiders? He’s sitting on a porch in Alabama eating marshmallows and staring at his “Chosen One” tattoo; telling stories to kids about how he used to be somebody.
No doubt he’s telling those same kids to not believe the 99 % of sports writers and analysts who call him the biggest bust in the history of sports.
He’s a great example to those kids too. If a boss gives you 3 million dollars to do a job, but the work situation is not perfect and you meet some adversity, the thing to do is not try anymore and seek out drugs. Then, when they fire you, you give up right away and stop trying, cuz after all if the world doesn’t coddle you and treat you like a little helpless baby, even after giving you 36 million and sticking up for you publicly then you should just give up and never try again. But always remember kids, it was my mean bosses fault. You know, the guy that gave me 36 million to a job that I didn’t feel was important enough to even stay awake for.
April 6th, 2012 at 9:14 am
People … Al did not ruin JR. JR was flawed from the get go. The thing Al did wrong was draft JR #1. The skinny on JR was that he was talented but raw and undisciplined. He was going to need time to mature and have the kind of coaches and situation where he could be brought along slowly. If you want to blame Al for “ruining” JR it has to be in the context of, JR was a bad choice for the Raiders.
JR himself says that he was losing family members to death and that hurt him immensely. Football was not a priority when family members are dying.
I believe for all his size and strength JR was emotionally fragile … he was/is a Baby Huey, a man-child.
He was not ready to play QB in the NFL, he was handed all this money and responsibility and he could not handle it. He was depressed because of deaths in the family and really didn’t care if he played or not.
You can say Al ruined JR but Al is renowned for his fierce loyalty to his players which he expected in return. Once a Raider, always a Raider. I think Al did not quite understand the modern player and their loyalty to money and not team. I think he tried to instill that in players by handing them more money to show his loyalty to them but in most cases, it back-fired and the players took advantage of an aging gentleman who expected things to be as they once were.
JR did not want to play. At LSU he was surrounded by great talent which was not the case in Oakland. If JR truly wanted to play, he would have put in the effort. If he still wants to play he would put in the effort. He has done neither.
To my knowledge no other team in the NFL has contacted JR to see if he wants to come in and work on his game. If I were the Raiders, I’d bring him in and let him and put him on the practice squad, if he wants to.
April 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
People … Al did not ruin JR. JR was flawed from the get go. The thing Al did wrong was draft JR #1. The skinny on JR was that he was talented but raw and undisciplined. He was going to need time to mature and have the kind of coaches and situation where he could be brought along slowly. If you want to blame Al for “ruining” JR it has to be in the context of, JR was a bad choice for the Raiders.
JR himself says that he was losing family members to death and that hurt him immensely. Football was not a priority when family members are dying.
I believe for all his size and strength JR was emotionally fragile … he was/is a Baby Huey, a man-child.
He was not ready to play QB in the NFL, he was handed all this money and responsibility and he could not handle it. He was depressed because of deaths in the family and really didn’t care if he played or not.
You can say Al ruined JR but Al is renowned for his fierce loyalty to his players which he expected in return. Once a Raider, always a Raider. I think Al did not quite understand the modern player and their loyalty to money and not team. I think he tried to instill that in players by handing them more money to show his loyalty to them but in most cases, it back-fired and the players took advantage of an aging gentleman who expected things to be as they once were.
JR did not want to play. At LSU he was surrounded by great talent which was not the case in Oakland. If JR truly wanted to play, he would have put in the effort. If he still wants to play he would put in the effort. He has done neither.
To my knowledge no other team in the NFL has contacted JR to see if he wants to come in and work on his game. If I were the Raiders, I’d bring him in and put him on the practice squad, if he wants to.