Palmer sees playbook _ and he loves it
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer has noted in a couple of offseason interviews his frustration with not having seen the playbook which will ostensibly become his manual to an AFC West title and beyond this season.
The strength and conditioning phase of the Raiders offseason is four days old and Palmer can’t work with position coaches or coordinators on the field, but he’s in the formative stages of learning the playbook and has spent time in meetings as the offense has been installed. To say Palmer is excited would be an understatement.
Some of his observations during an interview late Thursday afternoon:
– “I think it’s really going to fit the personnel we have. The style of play with the offensive line and the zone running scheme, and the speed we have in the backfield, it’s built for making a read, making one cut, and getting vertical and putting pressure on the defense with our speed and our running backs just heading north when they find the hole in that zone.”
– “I spent time talking with Darren (McFadden) and Taiwan Jones about it, and obviously the running game is going to be big for the Oakland Raiders this year. And what comes off the running game is really cool. All the play-action stuff really utilizes what we have on the outside. There’s not a lot of routes where guys are stopping. They’re using their speed, they’re on the move. It’s going to fit the strong suits of a lot of guys we have on offense, including myself.”
– “Defensive players are taught to read, not to put their eyes in the backfield and get caught by the quarterback. But from the film I’ve been watching (of the Houston Texans), it looks like a run to the first five guys. They don’t know for a few second after the ball is snapped that the quarterback has already gone into his first read. The Texans played with three different quarterbacks and when their big guy, Andre Johnson went down, they don’t slow down a bit.”
– “A lot of things quarterbacks are asked to do in this offense are strengths of mine. There are a lot of naked bootlegs and I’ve always focused on working on that. I did so much of it in college and I’m excited to do more of it now. I haven’t done it a ton (in the NFL, but it’s something I’m comfortable doing.”
– “The good thing with all this play-action stuff and move-the-pocket stuff is that some of the best plays are the screens and checkdowns to running backs. When you cover Jacoby (Ford) downfield and Denarius downfield, one of the positives is the checkdown, the easy throw, the dumpoff to the running back. When Darren McFadden and Taiwan Jones have five, six or seven yards separation between them between the next defender, they rarely get tackled by the first defender. I love throwing the ball downfield, but watching Houston and seeing the completions that got with Arian Foster with 10 yards of cushion, were exciting to see. It gave him a chance to put his foot in the ground and go.”
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April 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
1st
April 5th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
What happened to Brien? Did he get banned, or is he just too embarrassed after his cousin’s big flop in the tournament?
April 5th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
3rd!
Don’t wear hoodies if youre a minority like myself.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Imagine how damaging this could be with Pryor also at QB. Even more to fear.
Sorry to beat the “I love Terrelle Pryor” drum over again.
Obviously, Palmer is the man, great passing ability etc. I do love the potential of Pryor tho once he properly develops.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Brien’s fine. He’ll be back when he feels like it.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Palmer may be great or he may be awful. Who knows? None of us have ever seen him play in the NFL.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
**I meant Pryor.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
i like it! We need a modern offense – dont forget reece and ausberry
April 5th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
That’s true Mark Clemens. Just put me down in the rooting for Pryor section. Like I detailed in my last post of the previous blog article, that’s what I (in my armchair GM hat) would do…
Trade Kelly, Seymour, Palmer, McFadden…for picks. Trade a lot of them down. Single out Brewster, Chapman, Turbin, Russell Wilson, and many LBs in the draft. Acquire more vet CBs after teams make their cuts.
Just me, and don’t expect anyone to agree with me in entirety. Definitely tho trade Kelly and Seymour and draft Michael Brewster tho.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Brien’s off to his KKK retreat, will be back with new schemes later.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Bill Williamson:
As of Thursday evening, the Raiders are still very much in the mix for Dave Tollefson and have a solid offer out to him. He is listening to other offers. The free-agent defensive end, who’s spent all five seasons of his NFL career with the New York Giants, would be a key backup in Oakland.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
did he sign a waiver?
April 5th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
If we sign Tollefson, I take that as a hint that Kelly and Seymour are expendable/tradeable for picks. We would have a billion 3-tech 4-3 DTs hybrid 5-tech 3-4 DEs.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
jk…never mind. It must be the off-season.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Sure Tollefson, is just the piece we need to replace Tommy Kelly AND Richard Seymour.
(sarcasm)
April 5th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Palmer mentioned Jacoby and Denarius mind you. Not DHB..
April 5th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Or he could be taking a refresher Troll course.
April 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Kelly and Seymour aren’t going anywhere and that is a good thing.You don’t trade good established players for mid round draft picks if you want to be a good team.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Palmer mentioned Jacoby and Denarius mind you. Not DHB..
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Why hate on one of your more productive players?
April 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Tollefsen is really a 4-3 defensive end. More of a replacement for Trevor Scott or Jarvis Moss. Don’t see how he affects TK. And if you know the details of Seymour’s contract you know the chances of him getting cut or traded at this point are 0.00000000000001%
April 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Palmer didn’t mention DHB because he knows that he is going to be traded for a first rounder.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Doesn’t sound like the new offense suits DHBs strengths. Who knows though. One would assume an NFL coordinator could mix that stuff in as well. But DHB does struggle with the deep flight tracking of the ball. Needs it in his hands early and then get his YAC. Moore and Ford are much better deep ball receivers.
Who knows though. DHB is a grinder. Maybe he’ll have that aspect of his game in check this year as well.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Lefty 12: nails it onTK and Seymour.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
I don’t mind trading TK. How many UTs do we need on one roster? We have Seymour, TK, Houston, and Bryant. The team is also looking to add a NT.
We can afford to trade a DT, and I think TK Makes the most sense.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Pick at number 95. Brewster center Ohio State.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
LDE: Bryant
DT: Rookie NT/ Houston
DT: Seymour/ Houston/
RDE: Shaughnessy
April 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Bryant should also move inside in passing situations, and have a nickel pass rusher play LDE.
Seymour, Houston, rookie NT, and Bryant can rotate at DT.
Like I said, I think we can afford to trade TK.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Palmer didn’t mention DHB because he knows that he is going to be traded for a first rounder.
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That aint happening…maybe a 3rd?
April 5th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
kind of a bummer he left him out though kid is a try hard kinda guy it seems. come on Carson where’s the love.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Or maybe he just forgot to mention his name. Occam’s razor: all things being equal, simpler solution/ explanation is better than complex.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Or maybe he just forgot to mention his name. Occam’s razor: all things being equal, simpler solution/ explanation is better than complex.
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Truth…guys reading to much into nothing.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
A few possible scenarios for the draft:
3rd (compensatory) – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
4th (compensatory) – OLB Sammy Brown, Houston
5th – DB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
5th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Frank Alexander, Oklahoma
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – DE/OLB Bruce Irvin, West Virginia
4th (compensatory) – OLB/DE Jonathan Massaquoi, Troy
5th – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OT Steven Baker, ECU
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – CB Leonard Johnson, Iowa State
4th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Jake Bequette, Arkansas
5th – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OLB/ILB Emmanuel Acho, Texas
6th – OT Matt Reynolds, BYU
April 5th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
YA,
Why is Jake Bequette’s stock falling? Does he have any Issues that I’m not aware of?
April 5th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Maybe Palmer was just feeding all those that try and read tooooooo much into everything that is said.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Beat me to it Thec.(:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
First scenario is solid, no offensive players selected… Thats the perfect draft.
Also do not waste a pick on a so called ” skill” player rb, te, & wr.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Beat me to it Thec.(:
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Payback brother…lol
April 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
YA,
Why is Jake Bequette’s stock falling? Does he have any Issues that I’m not aware of?
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He’s seen as somewhat of a “tweener”. Excels at no particular thing, just has a really high motor and is a solid tackler. Doesn’t have overwhelming sack numbers. I’ve seen him projected everywhere between the 3rd and the 6th rounds.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Maybe Palmer was just feeding all those that try and read tooooooo much into everything that is said.
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I mean really, I make up something outlandish like;
” Jerry intentionally did not mention DHB to get the blog spun up”
April 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
I think with the 95 pick we’ll draft someone who will be a backup DT this season and our starting NT of the future.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
YA,
I thought he had 10 sacks in 10 games as a SR. What do you think of him? Better prospect for 4-3 IMO but nor sure where? Is he a RDE or LDE?
April 5th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
probably right on the dhb issue, secret weapon///
i believe he was working out with palmer, TO, and crew, if i’m not mistaken.. no wait i know i’m not mistaken he’s the one that tweeted the picture.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Sarcasm,Thec,sarcasm.Obviously since CP didn’t mention DHB ,he must not be part of the teams plans.I find some of the conclusions on here unbelievable whenever someone with the organization says something.The tea-leaf readers work overtime on this blog!
April 5th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
DHB got his bell rung and carted off the field.
When that happens some players make a decision right then if they want to play NFL football or not.
I think DHB made that decision….and in the words of OBI one Knobe….”if you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine”
I think he stays.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
The tea-leaf readers work overtime on this blog!
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hahahahahaha…Right…
April 5th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
play hard he will
April 5th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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TDMhis kid is a DMO Sleeper…He is going to creep onto someones team, and wind up making an impact…
April 5th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
YA,
I thought he had 10 sacks in 10 games as a SR. What do you think of him? Better prospect for 4-3 IMO but nor sure where? Is he a RDE or LDE?
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Yeah, his senior year was definitely his breakout season. He battled injury but was still productive (although I’ve heard one knock on him is that he disappears sometimes, and doesn’t always finish). The games I’ve seen him in, he always seemed to be around the ball. Seems like the kind of player who could play RDE, LDE, and even OLB in some situations. Could even play 5-tech DE if he added some weight. I like him a lot as a player. He looks like an instant contributor to me.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
3rd (compensatory) – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
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would be a great pick, doubt he gets outta the 2nd…
April 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Go Aztecs!
April 5th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
would be a great pick, doubt he gets outta the 2nd…
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Same here, but there’s a chance he could fall due to his injury.
As I said before, it wouldn’t surprise me if Chapman was drafted before Ta’amu.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
We do need to find a speed edge rush specialist. Shaughnessy, TK, Seymour and Bryant are all capable of beating a way to the QB, but we do need a guy who can apply quick pressure on a consistent basis to get the QB off his mark and force him into that oncoming onslaught of aforementioned linemen.
Any recommendations as to who that guy may be in the mid to later rounds of this draft?
April 5th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
We should trade Tommy Kelly and DHB for a first founder, and get a DT tru run stuffer.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
We should trade Tommy Kelly and DHB for a first founder, and get a DT tru run stuffer.
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Good humor is always appreciated on here!
April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
DHB could be the Andre Johnson of this offense.IMO RM is pretty satisfied with the team and the picks we have.I don’t see any major trades happening this offseason.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
As I said before, it wouldn’t surprise me if Chapman was drafted before Ta’amu.
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Logical as he is a 3 down player, most you get out of alameda is 2 rush downs….
April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
YA,
What do you think of Coryell Judie from Texas A&M? The only CB in your mocks is Leonard Johnson who had great production at college, but I have my concerns due to his slow 40 and height.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
New post.
April 5th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
A few possible scenarios for the draft:
3rd (compensatory) – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
4th (compensatory) – OLB Sammy Brown, Houston
5th – DB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
5th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Frank Alexander, Oklahoma
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – DE/OLB Bruce Irvin, West Virginia
4th (compensatory) – OLB/DE Jonathan Massaquoi, Troy
5th – DL Jonathan Massaquoi, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OT Steven Baker, ECU
6th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
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3rd (compensatory) – CB Leonard Johnson, Iowa State
4th (compensatory) – DE/OLB Jake Bequette, Arkansas
5th – DL Akiem Hicks, Regina
5th (compensatory) – OLB/ILB Emmanuel Acho, Texas
6th – OT Matt Reynolds, BYU
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I like it…
Check this one!
3rd: Josh Chapman
4th: Sammy Brown
5th: Jonathan Massaquoi
5th: Emmanuel Acho
6th: Miles Burris
I know…too many LB’s, but that way we can’t miss!!
Lol..
April 5th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
# Raider O Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Bryant should also move inside in passing situations, and have a nickel pass rusher play LDE.
Seymour, Houston, rookie NT, and Bryant can rotate at DT.
Like I said, I think we can afford to trade TK.
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I have been saying this all along. If McK and Allen can get a 3rd Rounder for Kelly, they should do it in a heartbeat.
April 5th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
I really do think they like TK right now… he’s our best pass rusher for christ sakes! until they get a proven pass rusher off the edge(can’t count ShoNasty quite yet due to his very serious injury)… they keep that pressure he gets quite a bit coming from up the middle.
if they do decide to trade TK, they had better resign Bryant long term. dude is a BEAST as a 3-4 DE or a 3 technique in a 4-3.
April 5th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
if Seymour, TK, and Bryant can stuff the run with a big NT (CHAPMAN!) up the middle, they are in business! a DL that can colapse the pocket on a regular basis and stuffing the run more often?! LOOK OUT AFC WEST! and WATCH YO BACK PEYTON U SLIEN HEADED PUNKAZZBISH!
April 5th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
*ALIEN
April 6th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Texans had an excellent offense last few years, an won games, whereas Raiders O was usually very good but often stalled at inopportune times
April 6th, 2012 at 7:20 am
The Raiders should really take a look at David Molk, Center from Michigan. From most mock drafts i have seen I think he will be there in the 5th possibly the 6th. This would keep Lil Wiz at LG and Carlisle on the bench as a Back up RG or LG. Veldheer, Lil Wiz, Molk, Briesel, Barksdale/Barnes. Pretty solid OL IMO with the exception of Barnes and unknown Barksdale.
April 6th, 2012 at 10:47 am
16.wolff Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Palmer mentioned Jacoby and Denarius mind you. Not DHB..
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A QB doesn’t need to talk up the most productive and durable reciever on the squad…who also is the toughest to tackle.
If you recall, the same speculation of “DHB isn’t mentioned by Hu” talk was rampant all last offseason.
Then, what happened?
April 6th, 2012 at 10:52 am
17.KoolKell Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Or he could be taking a refresher Troll course.
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refresher troll course…now that is funny.
April 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
[...] Carson Palmer likes what he’s seen from a Raiders [...]
April 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
[...] think it’s really going to fit the personnel we have,” Palmer told the the Bay Area News Group[4]. “The style of play with the offensive line and the zone running scheme, and the speed we [...]
April 6th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Chris in NY Says:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Tollefsen is really a 4-3 defensive end. More of a replacement for Trevor Scott or Jarvis Moss. Don’t see how he affects TK. And if you know the details of Seymour’s contract you know the chances of him getting cut or traded at this point are 0.00000000000001%
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So you’re telling me there’s a chance.
April 6th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
[...] think it’s really going to fit the personnel we have,” Palmer told the the Bay Area News Group. “The style of play with the offensive line and the zone running scheme, and the speed we [...]
April 8th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
why is everyone talkin about trading DHB. hes been going up hill and if you know anythng about football when players get better every year.. they will continue. hes only going to get better unless he busts a McFadden and gets injured. i wouldnt mind if Mourphy got traded. hes ok but last year he didnt look like he was into it like the year before. and Carson didnt mention Heybey bey cus he was just giving an example. Its known within the Raiders that T.Jones and Jacoby are the fastest. Moore is hard to defend. so its obvious that C,S and even LB will pay attention to these guys. giving the “quick pass” an easy target.