Raiders take flier on hoops player
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, April 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The San Diego Chargers struck gold by taking a chance on a basketball player and giving him a shot at playing tight end. The Raiders are following the trail blazed by the Chargers’ signing of Antonio Gates with the addition of tight end Andre Hardy.
Hardy’s background is that of a basketball player, not football. He played hoops at Cal State Fullerton the past two years after a two-year stint at Oral Roberts.
Coincidentally, Hardy is a San Diego native, the place Gates still calls home at the tail end of a potential Pro Football Hall of Fame career.
Hardy’s father, Andre, played in the NFL for parts of three seasons, with the Philadelphia Eagles, Seattle Seahawks and 49ers.
Hardy, 6-feet-5 and 250 pounds, will compete for a roster spot among the likes of David Ausberry, Brandon Myers and Richard Gordon.
Hardy held a pro day on April 4. It’s obvious the Raiders liked what they saw that day.
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April 12th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
no way 1st
April 12th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
GO RAIDERS!
April 12th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
3rd?
April 12th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Dope!
April 12th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
In Reggie we trust
April 12th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Dont want to sound like a tool but what is a flier?
April 12th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
NAZRAIDER Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Dont want to sound like a tool but what is a flier?
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It means they took a chance that involves very little risk/investment.
April 12th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Him and David Ausberry in two TE sets. Would make a killer set like gronk hernandez duo
April 12th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Hardy Video:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/4/10/2937441/andre-hardy-the-national-copycat-league-continues
April 12th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Jimmy Graham part 2
April 12th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I know nothing about this guy but I already hope he makes the team and does great things. Worked the Gonzo, Gates, and Graham. Why the hell not.
April 12th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
hope so…we’ll soon find out…
April 12th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
*worked for
April 12th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
YA,
I’m starting to notice a trend with you involving Buckeyes.
TP, Hawk, so who is next? lol
Go Buckeyes!!!
April 12th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Hardy Video:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/4/10/2937441/andre-hardy-the-national-copycat-league-continues
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Looking at hardy video, he has good hands…
4.7 40 time
April 12th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Raider O Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
YA,
I’m starting to notice a trend with you involving Buckeyes.
TP, Hawk, so who is next? lol
Go Buckeyes!!!
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Ha! I like DeVier Posey?
April 12th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Big man looks like he gets downfield in a hurry.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Reggie is leaving no rock unturned! I love how he is simulating having picks in each of the first 3 rounds. Thanks for the recommendation Wolf & Herrock! I’m feeling good about the new regime.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
This signing makes really good sense to me. High reward low risk. Nice. I still don’t know how my Raiders will slow down martian head Manning , I’m feeling a little unsure about the situation but maybe Coach Allen and his crew will figure it all out.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Posey is a solid WR, but I like the big kid from Miami Streeter. He is 6′5 220 (taller than Posey), and runs 4.4.
We should sign Posey if he doesn’t get drafted.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
How were we able to sign him before the draft?
April 12th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
LTR Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
How were we able to sign him before the draft?
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He wasn’t eligible for the draft. Not a college football player.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Hardy ran a 4.71 forty, has a 35in vertical leap and a 79in wingspan! jeeze louise!
April 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
19…Martian Head Manning?…. Lmaooo… Love it…
We call him Bubblehead…
The guys got a forehead you could park a truck on..
April 12th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Seems he has the requisite size measureables for an all around tight end (blocker & receiver). Not the fastest guy around but can get up in the air for the ball over the middle. Wonder if he has football instincts. . .
April 12th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Yep…Zack Miller wasn’t fast .. But knew how to get open..
April 12th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Manning can be stopped he is not God. For a guy out of the league for a year then come back go to a team and they autmoatically superbowl contender? Give me a break. Dont get me wrong peyton is good but he is also getting old and had 4 neck surgeries. And he did bwat us at home but thats besides the point. DA can stop him. If Peyton is so great how come he only have 1 ring? Tom Brady had 3 hell Ben has 2 and so does Eli.No way peyton last 6 games. Plus broncos line is not that great how many times teblow took a beating? Alot!!
April 12th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Beware… That’s true… And the question is still there about his neck… 4 operations means 3 of them didn’t workout all that well
April 12th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I liked that workout video. What I noticed is that some of those passes were way off-target, but he adjusted nicely and still made the catch. Bottom line: He’s got some athletic skill and didn’t cost any draft picks.
Worst case, we cut him during camp and lose nothing. Best case, this kid could be something a year or two down the line.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Did he play football in high school? Looks like he has nice size but could put on a little weight upstairs. . .
April 12th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
This signing makes really good sense to me. High reward low risk. Nice. I still don’t know how my Raiders will slow down martian head Manning , I’m feeling a little unsure about the situation but maybe Coach Allen and his crew will figure it all out. ———————————————————————————————————————————————-First off he hasnt even said that he is 100%. 2nd no marvin harrison 3rd no reggie wayne 4th no dallas clark and lastly no pro bowl center calling blocking assignment.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
04-12-12: PRYOR ON A WIRE?
Is Reggie doing simple evaluations or plotting to ditch the promising prospect?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
For reals? Pryor’s legit
April 12th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
He should be working a lot with TP on the practice field and in preseason.
If nothing else, he is intriguing.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Im waiting for dictator roger goodell to come out and say its the officails job to keep him safe. 10, as the over/under on how many sacks on him get cancelled out this year do to ruffing the passer.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Waiting for Goodell to drop the bom-b on Allen for his part in Bounty gate…
Naw! That would’ve happened already right?
Never know with this League. Just cuz Mr Davis dead…
April 12th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Hope we keep Pryor. If Newton / Tebow taught us nothing its that mobile freaks can get things done.
He’s a developmental so develop him!
April 12th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
24.fingers Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
19…Martian Head Manning?…. Lmaooo… Love it…
We call him Bubblehead…
The guys got a forehead you could park a truck on..
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Where Manning is from all the babies are born with high foreheads and Marlboro’s in their mouths.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
were keeping pryor, thats just corkrans alias making things up.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
How about cone head manning!!
April 12th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
fingers Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
19…Martian Head Manning?…. Lmaooo… Love it…
We call him Bubblehead…
The guys got a forehead you could park a truck on..
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Hey Fingers I really am lol. Manning has the biggest forehead…I’ve ever seen. honestly. Gee wiz
April 12th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Lets see, He’s a good athlete and fast for his size and you all think Reggies a genius for finding something that Al Davis has failed with for years. At least he didn’t waste a draft pick on him.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
some of you, anyhow.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
hes no ricky dudley
April 12th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
24.fingers Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
19…Martian Head Manning?…. Lmaooo… Love it…
We call him Bubblehead…
The guys got a forehead you could park a truck on..
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Where Manning is from all the babies are born with high foreheads and Marlboro’s in their mouths.
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Darn, I just discovered this posts. Whew, DJ I need to stop this laughing. Too funny man.
April 12th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
manning=BUCKETHEAD
April 12th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Hahaha the mannings do talk like they have something in their mouths
April 12th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
44.Goldie7 Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
24.fingers Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
19…Martian Head Manning?…. Lmaooo… Love it…
We call him Bubblehead…
The guys got a forehead you could park a truck on..
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Where Manning is from all the babies are born with high foreheads and Marlboro’s in their mouths.
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Darn, I just discovered this posts. Whew, DJ I need to stop this laughing. Too funny man.
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Ha. You started all this Goldie…
April 12th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
BewareofRaiders Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Manning can be stopped he is not God. For a guy out of the league for a year then come back go to a team and they autmoatically superbowl contender? Give me a break. Dont get me wrong peyton is good but he is also getting old and had 4 neck surgeries. And he did bwat us at home but thats besides the point. DA can stop him. If Peyton is so great how come he only have 1 ring? Tom Brady had 3 hell Ben has 2 and so does Eli.No way peyton last 6 games. Plus broncos line is not that great how many times teblow took a beating? Alot!!
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I see what you’re saying Beware but according to ESPN Trey(I’m in love with Tom Brady)Wingo and his crew, Peyton Manning will be the same QB (or better) before the 4 neck surgeries. Not that I take him seriously. Everytime Trey Wingo is on ESPN when I happen to be watching…I usually end up turning because his voice alone is very annoying plus the ‘Man crush” he has on Tom Brady is unacceptable.
April 12th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
how many denver broncos would it take to cover mannings forehead when they do there annual bukakke party in mini camp?
April 12th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
lol@DJ whew.
April 12th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
bunk moorland Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
how many denver broncos would it take to cover mannings forehead when they do there annual bukakke party in mini camp?
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lol…I have no idea Bunk but having a huge forehead like Manning is abnormal.
April 12th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
it’s Manning’s whole cranium. lol
April 12th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I bet tis guy becomes a LB for us
April 12th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Bunk Moorland Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
how many denver broncos would it take to cover mannings forehead when they do there annual bukakke party in mini camp?
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ROTFLMAO haha after i just read this i lost it
April 12th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
we will Sign a record number undrafted free agent
April 12th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
I’m ready for the Hardy Party!
April 12th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
O Mock Draft 5.5:
3- OLB Sean Spence
4- DE Jonathan Massaquoi
5- CB Coryell Judie
5- OLB Miles Burris
6- OT Joe Long (Jake Long’s younger brother)
We can sign an URFA NT after the draft.
April 12th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I also like DE/ OLB Cordarro Law a lot.
April 12th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Raiders take flier on hoops player The San Diego Chargers struck gold by taking a chance on a basketball player and giving him a shot at playing tight end. The Raiders are following the trail blazed by the Chargers’ signing of Antonio Gates with the addition of tight end Andre H… [...]
April 12th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I like it! Go Raiders!
April 12th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
BigMac is turning over every stone to find a gem. Who thought he would be perusing basketball teams for a tight end??
Kudos Reggie, I love making money for nothing, and I think you do too.
April 12th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
This guy is a specimen of a human, I hope he can play football!
April 12th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
“04/25/2010 – A closer look at the Saints’ picks: Round 3/95 — Jimmy Graham, TE, 6-6, 259, Miami (Fla.): As a college basketball player for three years, he’s a project. But the Saints like his 4.50 speed, 38 1/2-inch vertical leap and the fact he had five TDs on only 17 receptions last year.”
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anything is possible, right? nice vid Thec, keep em comin! kid has some HANDS and looks very fluid in his motions much like Graham.. although i’m sure i’m hyping this up too much, but it’s just real hard to ignore the good chance of adding YET ANOTHER dangerous weapon at NaPalmer’s disposal … when you throw in Ausberry, who’s another project, who knows what could happen.
April 12th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
meant to add the biggest difference here is that Graham has football experience… something Hardy definitely does not.
April 12th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I seriously cracked up when I read “bukkake”, scrolling through the commment’s, I haven’t heard that in forever… good stuff!
April 12th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Hardy will have a target on his back throughout training camp and preseason. Not sure how the players will respond to a rookie basketball player, could be brutal for him. If Hardy can survive the torment….you never know. Good luck Andre.
April 12th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
I agrees…cut Condo.
April 12th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
His 40 time isn’t that great for a TE, you would think a guy like this would of had to put up some eye opening numbers to get a shot in the NFL. Maybe Reggie saw something else in this guy, lets hope his gut is right on this one and he found a gem.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Reggie Reggie Reggie!
April 12th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Raider4life: surviving the torment will certainly show how tough he is, and he seems to have good hands on him. Reggie is IMO molding this team the right way, getting rid of the dead weight and bringing guys you’d like to go to war with. Most of the players brought in have some football smarts. That’s a hell of a lot better than some of the crap we’ve been drafting, and then giving out ridiculous contracts for no effort.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Nobody in here knows who we will get in the draft, period! we will take the the best player available at #95. who knows who that will be. reggie will go stricktly by the board and how it falls is a mystery to all of us.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
The Raiders uniforms should never change, but I wouldn’t mind seeing the cheerleader outfits get an update.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Mark Clemens Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
The Raiders uniforms should never change, but I wouldn’t mind seeing the cheerleader outfits get an update.
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agreed…. much less fabric, the current outfits cover up too much of the natural beauty…
April 12th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Raiderfusion
I didn’t mean to sound negative. I like the pick up for two reasons.
1. Didn’t cost a draft pick
2. If he doesn’t pan out, put him on PS or kick him to the curb. But… I do wish him the best of luck.
I just think he’s gonna take a beating.
I agree with your assessment of Reggie M. As a Raider fan I’m pretty excited about this season.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Not sure if this video has been posted yet…More catching less lifting. Kid has good hands. Catches away from his body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOaajv2cMu8
April 12th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Stephen A Smith needs to stop yelling. Him and Sapp are loud and ignorant.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
75. Nice video. Good to see Reggie is leaving no stone unturned. The Raiders are moving in the right direction. I can’t wait to see how this draft goes and to see what Allen can do with this defense.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Someone should explain to Sapp and Smith that yelling doesn’t equal winning the debate/ argument. It means you are loud and ignorant.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Hardy ran a 4.71 forty, has a 35in vertical leap and a 79in wingspan! jeeze louise!
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Anyone that can jump like that with such a wingspan is a matchup nightmare at TE… IF he can catch… and more importantly, catch knowing a safety or LB is going to take his head off. If it was easy, there would be tons of Gate’s in the NFL. There are not.
Low risk/high reward.
Nice though.
April 12th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I like it. Odds are this guy doesn’t make it out of camp, but I love the outside the box, big upside thinking from Reggie. Very Raiderish.
Now go sign Shockey.
April 12th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
From the workout video, looks like he has better hands than DHB .. And the dude is big, fast and strong. RMac is doing a great job. We will be better this year.
GO RAIDERS!!!
April 12th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RMac is a proven evaluator of talent so be sure this kid is not just a camp body he showed something in his workouts to get a chance – he will have the opportunity to compete for a spot and only get on the squad with results on the field. Despite the insane cap situation, we’ve been relatively active in the off season and I think we will be pleasantly surprised once we see the product on the field.
GO RAIDERS!
April 12th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
sean spence for 95th
April 12th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
You can call Black men ignorant, and get away with it all day, despite their accomplishments
April 12th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
You can call Black men ignorant, and get away with it all day, despite their accomplishments
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??????????????Where did that come from?
April 12th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Kheeston Randall
April 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
That came from post #76, FYI, Lefty.
April 12th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
You can call Black men ignorant, and get away with it all day, despite their accomplishments
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It might be time to turn off the internet. Go for walk. Get some fresh air. Read a book. Honestly, maybe technology isn’t all that.
April 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Of course as a white man, those kinds of comments go completley over your head, unnoticed.
April 12th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Skip Bayless is ignorant and loud too.
Feel better KK?
April 12th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Not really.
April 12th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Btw, Jim Rome is an idiot. I’m going to stop watching ESPN and NFLN.
April 12th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
I was just wondering,KK.Actually,I do believe Sapp is ignorant and a loudmouth.I don’t see S.Smith the same way.
April 12th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Race had nothing to do with my statements, and it’s not a good idea to keep involving race in everything.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Btw Raider O, if they catch your Jordanian ass out in the boonies somewhere, your chances are probably worse than mine.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Ricky Dudley anyone? Sure Al is dead? This is a total Al move. Maybe Reggie is paying homage to Al. Apparently Reggie isn’t as happy at TE as he said. One never knows maybe this guy will pan out.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
If you look at the TEs,Gordon and Myers are the ones who should be concerned.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
I’m an American too, and I get treated with respect, so I have nothing to complain about personally. I’m also aware of race issues and history in this country.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
I like Gordon. He is a good blocker, and he can play FB.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
joker94583 Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Ricky Dudley anyone? Sure Al is dead? This is a total Al move.
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Hey Joker, do you mind sending us a photo of your face? So we can send it into toilet paper? And wipe our asses with it? Seriously?
April 12th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Trayvon Martin was an American, too.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Hands of stone.We want TEs that can catch the ball.If this guy or Ausberry can block at all,someone like Gordan won’t be able to stick around.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Hardy had a workout in SD or SF (I think SD but not sure), and a few teams attended his workout.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
It was in SD.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
It’s a good idea to have a TE who is a good blocker also capable of playing FB. Reece is a good weapon on offense, but he is not a great blocker. If we release Gordon, we may have to keep two FBs, which is not a good idea IMO.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Reece can catch and all of our TEs can catch (Ausberry was a WR at USC), but how many can block well like Gordon?
April 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
101.KoolKell Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Trayvon Martin was an American, too.
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and so ?
April 12th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
So long as the basketball player didn’t cost us one thin dime, I am good with it.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RaiderO #92 – agree totally Jim Rome is horrible, don’t have tv right now but I can’t stand him on the radio.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
92.Raider O Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Btw, Jim Rome is an idiot. I’m going to stop watching ESPN and NFLN.
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IMO, Jim Rome is sometimes great, and sometimes an idiot, especially when he does stupid parodies of his fans on air. His interview a few months ago of Ryan Leaf was classic. Leaf was releasing a book he authored, claiming to be totally clean from pain pills, while his real job was burglarizing houses of strangers and friends alike for oxycondone.
Rome was seriously fooled on that one.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Trying to figure out who the Raiders are overpaying for?
How are the Eagles able to build a “dream team” and still have the same payroll Raiders have?
How about SF?
They can afford to add Moss and anybody else they want it seems.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
With the 95th pick in the draft, Raiders pick a CB for sure. I would.
April 12th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Arkraider,
“don’t have tv right now.”
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What happened to your TV Ark, Ryan Leaf steal it to buy pain killers ?? (joking)
April 12th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Good one Hardline, no Ryan Leaf invasions here. Ha ha. No just trying to recover after our/my economic recession. Things/work was horrible a couple of years back. Things are better but still playing catch up. So I canceled all non essentials like home phone and tv to help get back over the hump. The tv is not essential until…… September and Raiders football!
April 12th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
I don’t get why Leaf didn’t just go to a cushy detox place for a few weeks. I know there’s stuff they can give u to get off that stuff. Sub…something or other.
To be so desperate that you’re breaking into peoples homes to steal pills?
Wow.
Just go to a Malibu detox or something.
April 12th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Raiders take flier on hoops player
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, April 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The San Diego Chargers struck gold by taking a chance on a basketball player and giving him a shot at playing tight end. The Raiders are following the trail blazed by the Chargers’ signing of Antonio Gates with the addition of tight end Andre Hardy.
Hardy’s background is that of a basketball player, not football. He played hoops at Cal State Fullerton the past two years after a two-year stint at Oral Roberts.
Coincidentally, Hardy is a San Diego native, the place Gates still calls home at the tail end of a potential Pro Football Hall of Fame career.
Hardy’s father, Andre, played in the NFL for parts of three seasons, with the Philadelphia Eagles, Seattle Seahawks and 49ers.
Hardy, 6-feet-5 and 250 pounds, will compete for a roster spot among the likes of David Ausberry, Brandon Myers and Richard Gordon.
Hardy held a pro day on April 4. It’s obvious the Raiders liked what they saw that day.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/04/12/raiders-take-flier-on-hoops-player/
April 12th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
April 12th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Well at least now when we take a basketball player we know he’s displayed some kind of football skill at some point.
April 12th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
fo sho the pick at 95 big mama wants to see
JOSH CHAPMAN
April 12th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Sanders
The Colonel Dude was a Raider fan too.
The Colonel picks sean spence at # 95
April 12th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Arkraider,
I am in the transportation business Ark. Increased fuel prices always means trouble for me, and is really, really bad for business. It’s been up and down for me for the for the past 3 yrs, but 2012 has been really bad so far.
You are in Arkansas ?
April 12th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
DJ Johnny, #114,
I don’t think Leaf is particularly short on money. I beleive in the interview with Jim Rome he said he went through detox.
The worst kind of addict is a pill addict. It seems to really get into their blood and they just can’t shake it.
You know will now go to prison in TX for a number of years. Probably, the day he gets out, he’ll be prowling around for more oxycondone.
April 12th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Doubt he makes the team.
April 12th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Also, truth be told, many of the self-destructive things Rush Limbaugh says can probably be chalked up to him being on oxycontin again. He probably takes a handful of pills, a slug off the whiskey bottle, then goes on air.
Rush went through re-hab and came out “cured”, but I have my doubts. I am surprised with all the heat he’s taken recently someone didn’t attack him on that front.
April 12th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Just watched a couple of YouTubes of Sammy Brown, the Houston OLB that the Raiders reportedly have interest in. I don’t know if he can play in the NFL or not, but his burst and closing speed really stands out when you watch him. Pretty impressive from that standpoint.
April 12th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Hardy kid shld come in hungry,so I have faith he’s gonna work hard…
May just have found my pick 4 camp favorite
D.Moore was last year!!!
One Nation
Unda God
April 12th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Ed.teach he looks small on tape doe…
But he cld be London Flecther esc
April 13th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Sammy Brown is listed at 6-2/245. Some guys just carry it differently, I guess.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:45 am
I was enrolled in Cal State Fullerton last year. I do not know Andre Hardy, but one of my roommates was manager of the school’s basketball team (program where he gets to learn how to be a basketball coach).
I text him as soon as I found out about Raiders signing Hardy and asked him if he knew Hardy. He said yes and asked why. Then I asked him if Hardy was athletic and what was his character like. He replied that Hardy is indeed athletic BUT he is injury prone and he quit on the basketball team half way through the season and my buddy then said he questions his commitment. We continued talking about Hardy but thing that popped out to me that my friend said was that Hardy is “sketchy” and that “he’s the kinda guy that’ll get arrested if he’s in the nfl. like no joke lol”
So with that said, I’m not sure if McKenzie did any background checking on this guy other than that workout visit ??
April 13th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Also like to point out that I heard he signed a 3 year contract. Not from same source though.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:41 am
Camp fodder.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:09 am
Jimmy Graham was a basketball player… this could work, ya never know
April 13th, 2012 at 5:17 am
Camp fodder.
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agreed.
Why ever bother? This only makes you wonder if Reggie’s a good evaluator of talent.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:19 am
Dude never played football, has linebacker speed, so-so power. He’s a project with zero upside.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:39 am
He replied that Hardy is indeed athletic BUT he is injury prone and he quit on the basketball team half way through the season and my buddy then said he questions his commitment.
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Thats all I need to know about that… from what I know about Allen, this guy is dead meat. Prolly one of the first cuts in camp…
April 13th, 2012 at 5:40 am
Osi doesnt want to be a backup for the gmen bring him in move houston inside its a win win…but then that means houston wont start because of kelly n sey and im sure houston wants to start…oh well never mind carry on my raiders brothers hope yall have a good one
April 13th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
First really questionable signing…I saw the tweet yesterday and I immediately replied, “Who?”
April 13th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Reggie and Hardy SR. came into the league around the same time, maybe they are buddies? Could be a favour for his friend, we need lots more bodies on the roster for camp anyways.
Maybe he was forced into playing basketball and his heart has always been with football. Reggie wants guys that LOVE to play football…
April 13th, 2012 at 5:50 am
That’s a good point CW! And like someone said earlier, that kid from NO played basketball…you never know…
April 13th, 2012 at 5:51 am
RaidersNextGM Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:45 am
I was enrolled in Cal State Fullerton last year. I do not know Andre Hardy, but one of my roommates was manager of the school’s basketball team (program where he gets to learn how to be a basketball coach).
I text him as soon as I found out about Raiders signing Hardy and asked him if he knew Hardy. He said yes and asked why. Then I asked him if Hardy was athletic and what was his character like. He replied that Hardy is indeed athletic BUT he is injury prone and he quit on the basketball team half way through the season and my buddy then said he questions his commitment. We continued talking about Hardy but thing that popped out to me that my friend said was that Hardy is “sketchy” and that “he’s the kinda guy that’ll get arrested if he’s in the nfl. like no joke lol”
So with that said, I’m not sure if McKenzie did any background checking on this guy other than that workout visit ??
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There is absolutely no risk with this signing. Reggie got him for peanuts and didn’t have to give up a draft pick. If he can play, that’s great, if not, he will be cut.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Besides, who knows why thsi kid was signed, but all of a sudden we are questioning his evaluation of talent….calm down guys, its still the offseason!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Mark, exactly!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Signing Hardy is like buying a lottery ticket. If it pans out, Reggie is a genius. If he gets cuts, nobody will ever remember the guy.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:53 am
They took a flier on a prospect. Maybe they think they can catch lightning in a bottle twice (like NO did with Graham or SD did with Gates). Very low risk signing. Cost’s us nothing, doesn’t even count towards the cap because only the top 51 contacts count until opening day
April 13th, 2012 at 5:53 am
hwnrdr Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:50 am
That’s a good point CW! And like someone said earlier, that kid from NO played basketball…you never know…
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That kid from NO, Jimmy Graham also played college football. He also ran a 4.5ish 40 and a 39 inch vertical. This Hardy kid runs about par with LB’s which means they will easily cover him one on one, and his vertical is 35 inches.
This is not a Jimmy Graham clone.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:57 am
I still don’t understand why Reggie is waiting till after the draft to get his vet backup QB. I get that he wants to evaluate Pryor and find out if he’s the one. But that’s also a position that can be signed dirt cheap now, and get a head start with the coaches right now. Why wait?
There is risk with waiting on the evaluation process of TP. We need contingency plans and the earlier they are in place the better.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:57 am
I never said that Guest…but like the others were saying, you never know…and very low risk!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:58 am
I agree that it’s low risk as a UDFA. Problem is we’re in a football hungry news cycle pre-draft. If this had happened after the draft, no one would have batted an eye.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Reggie may be waiting to get a backup QB because other teams are waiting too. I haven’t seen a QB signed in a while now.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:04 am
They should have made Bruce Campbell a tight end.
He certainly isn’t going to make it as a lineman.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:05 am
AT LEAST THE RAIDERS WONT BE DRAFTING HARDY..
April 13th, 2012 at 6:08 am
LOL, good one Dirt Lot!!!
Anyways…I agree Guest, I scratched my head when I saw that yesterday…but waht can we do now! At least he wasn’t part of the Credit Card Roullete that Huff an the Boys were playing at PF Changs last night…LOL
And I heard that Mitchell lost the C/C Roulette and punted the football in PF Changs…I wish I could have ssen that!
April 13th, 2012 at 6:09 am
150.Kirk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:04 am
They should have made Bruce Campbell a tight end.
He certainly isn’t going to make it as a lineman.
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They changed his name and made him a running back
April 13th, 2012 at 6:09 am
AT LEAST THE RAIDERS WONT BE DRAFTING HARDY..
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They couldn’t even if they wanted to. He’s draft ineligible. He’s 25 and hasn’t played a down of football in 7 years.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Mark Clemens Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Reggie may be waiting to get a backup QB because other teams are waiting too. I haven’t seen a QB signed in a while now.
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I think they’re waiting to see how Pryor does in OTAs. Can he be a legit backup this season and they can sign a loser Kyle Boller type to be 3rd string or do they need to go get a guy who can be a real 2nd string like Matt Leinart
April 13th, 2012 at 6:17 am
I think they’re waiting to see how Pryor does in OTAs. Can he be a legit backup this season and they can sign a loser Kyle Boller type to be 3rd string or do they need to go get a guy who can be a real 2nd string like Matt Leinart
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But isn’t there a risk that if TP bombs, you have to ramp up halfway thru OTA’s and quickly get your Leinart type in on a compressed schedule?
Why not bring in competition for TP now? It will only help TP’s development having another vet working with him.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:21 am
guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:57 am
I still don’t understand why Reggie is waiting till after the draft to get his vet backup QB.
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Who is left to choose from? I doubt he brings in a legitimate #2 until camp begins. Focus on Pryor and see what he can do, plus they also have a QB (Braum?) on the roster to play catch with guys.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Why not bring in competition for TP now?
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That is what leads me to believe that he is a lot further along than some of you are giving him credit for.
HAS to be, for a lot of the reasons you state above. Ramping up, and all that. Why would the the new Reggime put the team in that kind of jeopardy?
Doesn’t it make sense that Saunders liked what he saw outta Pryor last year, and has given word to the GM and HC that we’re fine at QB?
April 13th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Go Dodgers!!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 6:35 am
We have 3 QB’s on the roster if you include Bomar.
We WILL bring in somebody else, but that somebody will definately tip the hand of how this staff feels about TP.
Draft a kid in the 6th or 7th round to team with Bomar, than TP is obviously the primary backup and growing on the staff.
Draft a QB in the 4th round, or bring in a vet to be the primary backup, well than it is the other way.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Why would the the new Reggime put the team in that kind of jeopardy?
Doesn’t it make sense that Saunders liked what he saw outta Pryor last year, and has given word to the GM and HC that we’re fine at QB?
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Ok, let’s give TP the benefit of the doubt. Reggie certainly already has. Despite not being a system fit in Greg Knapps WCO. Despite no NFL experience. Despite Reggie himself admitting he doesn’t know what he has in TP.
It’s like your question, why put the new regime in jeopardy?
Why not hire on a cheap vet backup throwaway QB like Leinart, and if things change post-draft, cut him and start over? In the meantime, you continue the development that CP3, Leinart and the WR crew were working on last month.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:39 am
I think this hoops kid will land either on the practice squad, or they will IR him and keep him around for a year to see if they can really develop something.
I mean, with no football experience, chances are by the first cuts of camp, he will be nowhere near ready to even step on the practice field. If you are going to cut him then, than there really is no point of bringing him in, in the first place.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:40 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Mark Clemens Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Reggie may be waiting to get a backup QB because other teams are waiting too. I haven’t seen a QB signed in a while now.
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I think they’re waiting to see how Pryor does in OTAs. Can he be a legit backup this season and they can sign a loser Kyle Boller type to be 3rd string or do they need to go get a guy who can be a real 2nd string like Matt Leinart///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////matt leinart is no second string,hes terrible. I would rather take a chance with pryor and fail then bring in somebody who already failed.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:43 am
For those of you who say we need to bring in a vet backup qb,who do you think we should get? Vince evans is no longer playing incase you dont know.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:44 am
JFB,
Call your shot ….
Kapernicky or Pryor, who has the better career?
April 13th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Leinart has at least thrown an NFL pass.
The last thing we need, is for us to be 7-5 and Palmer gets hurt at halftime in San Diego, and we are trotting out a guy who has never even attempted an NFL pass.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Leinart has at least thrown an NFL pass.
The last thing we need, is for us to be 7-5 and Palmer gets hurt at halftime in San Diego, and we are trotting out a guy who has never even attempted an NFL pass.
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truth
April 13th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Leinart has at least thrown an NFL pass.
The last thing we need, is for us to be 7-5 and Palmer gets hurt at halftime in San Diego, and we are trotting out a guy who has never even attempted an NFL pass.——Thats what they said in new england when Bledsoe went down,how did that work out for them?
April 13th, 2012 at 6:48 am
I will go with Pryor, because he has a legit chance of playing and excelling at another position.
I wouldn’t be suprised if neither ever starts more than 10 games as an NFL QB.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:48 am
The last thing we need, is for us to be 7-5 and Palmer gets hurt at halftime in San Diego, and we are trotting out a guy who has never even attempted an NFL pass.
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We always have Lechler
April 13th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Beyond that, let’s assume that Pryor is going to make it as our #2. He’s raw, no experience. He’s going into his first OTA’s ever. It’s all new to him, regardless of his brief time on the sidelines last year. If there was any one player who needs a mentor right about now, it’s TP.
CP3 needs to immerse himself in GK’s system and he’s not going to be wet nursing TP. We need a vet with experience to show TP how it’s done, from training sessions to mini camps, to OTA’s, etc.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Thats what they said in new england when Bledsoe went down,how did that work out for them?
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That happened in September of the season.
If Palmer gets hurt in September, I don’t care who the backup is, Pryor needs to start playing a ton.
I am talking about maybe needing a bandaid for a half of a divisional road game. In that case, I will take Matt Leinart over Pryor.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:50 am
G123,
I think Pryor is ready. I don’t think the new Reggime is putting the team in jeopardy.
I disagree with the Knapp’s offense thing. I think his ability to run off of that bootleg is going to add another demension to the offense. I think we are going to be in shotgun 3 WRs more than you think.
I expect Palmer to start for a long time here. If Pryor has to play earlier, I think you’ll see a much different offensive attack.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:51 am
We need a vet with experience to show TP how it’s done, from training sessions to mini camps, to OTA’s, etc.
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We can always bring back Jeff Garcia, lol.
Seriously, that sounds like a perfect job for Gradkowski.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:52 am
It’s dangerous to assume that Pryor is ready to be QB2. I mean we all as fans would love that to be true. But we need a proven safety net in case Pryor’s not ready. We could have that guy in now, today. And the time they invest now will pay off down the road.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:52 am
167.guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Leinart has at least thrown an NFL pass.
The last thing we need, is for us to be 7-5 and Palmer gets hurt at halftime in San Diego, and we are trotting out a guy who has never even attempted an NFL pass.
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truth
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The real truth of the matter is that if you lose your starting QB, especially in the AFC West, you’re chances of doing anything are pretty slim.
NO ONE has any confidence in Lienart. You’re just throwing that name out there.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:53 am
We need a vet with experience to show TP how it’s done, from training sessions to mini camps, to OTA’s, etc.
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Carson Palmer?????
April 13th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Beyond that, let’s assume that Pryor is going to make it as our #2. He’s raw, no experience. He’s going into his first OTA’s ever. It’s all new to him, regardless of his brief time on the sidelines last year. If there was any one player who needs a mentor right about now, it’s TP.
CP3 needs to immerse himself in GK’s system and he’s not going to be wet nursing TP. We need a vet with experience to show TP how it’s done, from training sessions to mini camps, to OTA’s, etc.————————————————————————— haveing a vet mentor a young qb? i always get confussed with this.In today nfl name me one qb who was mentored by probowl qb then took over the raines and was pro bowler. arron rogers dont count mcarthy brought him along if favre did he would throw more picks and text reporters pic of his package
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April 13th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Pryor’s mobility makes him ideal for the WCO. However, it is his ability to throw accurately and make reads out of the pocket that is the concern, and why he was a mid 3rd round draft pick.
Can’t wait for preseason.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:55 am
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April 13th, 2012 at 6:56 am
I disagree with the Knapp’s offense thing. I think his ability to run off of that bootleg is going to add another demension to the offense. I think we are going to be in shotgun 3 WRs more than you think.
I expect Palmer to start for a long time here. If Pryor has to play earlier, I think you’ll see a much different offensive attack.
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JHill, I respect that you think that Pryor is going to succeed in Knapp’s WCO with a wrinkle. But isn’t that just hitting the “I believe” button? Wouldn’t we all feel better if TP had an expendable vet QB pushing him till we get the training wheels off?
April 13th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Cmon guys, this is ridiculous.
Al Saunders, Coach Allen, and McKenzie all know better than we do, wouldn’t you say?
If they are confident in Pryor, why can’t you be?
I’m already thinking of him shining in preseason, and a couple of mop up duties this season, and us parlaying him into a 1st rd pick and a player or 2 a la Philidelphia and their backup QBs, lol.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Relax. It’s April.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:57 am
But isn’t that just hitting the “I believe” button?
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LOL!
Of course it is.
I bashed the shyyt outta Pryor until we drafted him.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:58 am
The real truth of the matter is that if you lose your starting QB, especially in the AFC West, you’re chances of doing anything are pretty slim.
NO ONE has any confidence in Lienart. You’re just throwing that name out there.
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I don’t want Leinart to be my starter either. If CP3 goes down, it likely means the season’s over. I want Leinart or another vet to be that wet nurse that brings TP up to speed. Once he’s used up, cut him and go with TP as the backup with confidence.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:59 am
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April 13th, 2012 at 6:59 am
And it’s just that I don’t like ANY of the names out there at QB right now. Matt Lienart??? Hell to the naw!!! Vince Young???? NOPE!!!!
I’d love to have Gardowski back. Always said he was the perfect backup.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Accualy it would be better for him to come in at the end of the season. Defences wounldnt have a hole year of game film to prep for his scrammble roll out type game.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:00 am
mop up duties…man wouldn’t that be nice! BTW: Did they throw in Boller 2 years ago in Denver?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Al Saunders, Coach Allen, and McKenzie all know better than we do, wouldn’t you say?
If they are confident in Pryor, why can’t you be?
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Are we sure they are confident in him? What if they release the depth chart and they have Rhett Bomar ahead of him?
Can’t make any predictions on the mood of our staff towards any players, until we see their reps, run-time, and what they are asked to do.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Accualy it would be better for him to come in at the end of the season. Defences wounldnt have a hole year of game film to prep for his scrammble roll out type game.
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Except if he is in at the end of the season, it might be some of the most important football we have played in 10 years.
I am not talking about playing 10 games of the season. I am talking about Palmer out 2-3 weeks at the end of a potential playoff run. Do you want to give the ball to someone who has never attempted an NFL pass, or someone who at least has thrown some NFL TD’s before?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:04 am
What if they release the depth chart and they have Rhett Bomar ahead of him?
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Then I want you to the new GM in the Hue “used car salesman” category since he just told us Pryor was the #2.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Al Saunders, Coach Allen, and McKenzie all know better than we do, wouldn’t you say?
If they are confident in Pryor, why can’t you be?
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Are we sure they are confident in him? What if they release the depth chart and they have Rhett Bomar ahead of him?
Can’t make any predictions on the mood of our staff towards any players, until we see their reps, run-time, and what they are asked to do.
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But you are doing that samethng, saying pryor isnt ready.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Except if he is in at the end of the season, it might be some of the most important football we have played in 10 years.
I am not talking about playing 10 games of the season. I am talking about Palmer out 2-3 weeks at the end of a potential playoff run. Do you want to give the ball to someone who has never attempted an NFL pass, or someone who at least has thrown some NFL TD’s before?
”””””””””””””””””””””””””””’ If that someone is matt lienrt,yes i would rather have pryor
April 13th, 2012 at 7:08 am
But you are doing that samethng, saying pryor isnt ready.
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I am not saying PRYOR isn’t ready, I am saying 99.9% of 3rd round picks at QB who have never taken an NFL snap aren’t remotely close to ready.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Do you want to give the ball to someone who has never attempted an NFL pass, or someone who at least has thrown some NFL TD’s before?
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Could you be a little more specific on who that guy is whoe has attempted an NFL pass?
No to Lienart and Young. I’ll take my chances with Pryor.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:10 am
I am not talking about playing 10 games of the season. I am talking about Palmer out 2-3 weeks at the end of a potential playoff run. Do you want to give the ball to someone who has never attempted an NFL pass, or someone who at least has thrown some NFL TD’s before?
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This is the critical reason to have a qualified #2 QB. Someone who can be a short term stopgap until the starter comes back from some mild injury or ailment. If the starter goes down early in the season, then the season’s lost barring a miracle. I don’t think TP or any other vet QB out there can save the season. But to effectively game-manage a game and hold down the fort and tread water till Palmer comes back….that will be critical in a potential playoff run.
The backup QB position is critical.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Q: Do you see Terrelle Pryor as a viable possibility as a backup QB this year?
McKENZIE: Absolutely. Yep. Hopefully our quarterback coach and offensive coordinator, the staff, can work him starting next week’s voluntary minicamp. And see if we can get him rolling. It’s going to be a constant evaluation. But they need to find out how good he is and how good he can be.
Q: He’s a possible No. 2 QB?
McKENZIE: That’s his goal right there and that’s the goal that the coaches are going to try to get him going.
Q: You need to decide that before you think about adding a veteran for the No. 2 QB spot? First you’re going to see if Pryor can do it?
McKENZIE: Yeah, I think that’s a natural progression, absolutely. They need to know what he is, how he can throw the ball, how he picks it up and get him on the field. So next week, I think, it’s going to be a great tell-tale sign for the coaching staff. Not just for the quarterback position, but many of those positions.
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I don’t see anything there that says he is the #2 right now.
Can he “possibly” be a #2? That’s “his goal”?
Sounds like he was given every opportunity to say TP is our #2, and he avoided it at all costs.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:12 am
All im saying is name me a back up you would have confidece in? Why send in leinrt when we already know what he gives us,and still dont know what we have in pryor.Send pryor in see what we have in him,is he the future? If not get rid of him. we need that roster spot for a future qb
April 13th, 2012 at 7:13 am
The last thing we need, is for us to be 7-5 and Palmer gets hurt at halftime in San Diego, and we are trotting out a guy who has never even attempted an NFL pass.
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Thats garbage…..He is a pro, and will have to do it sometime….
Move off the evaluation platform, you are sinking imo…
April 13th, 2012 at 7:13 am
All im saying is name me a back up you would have confidece in?
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TPRYOR
April 13th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I don’t see anything there that says he is the #2 right now.
Can he “possibly” be a #2? That’s “his goal”?
Sounds like he was given every opportunity to say TP is our #2, and he avoided it at all costs.
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I do not want it given to him. He has to earn it, and he will…
Name someone you would bring in, and he willl beat them out…
April 13th, 2012 at 7:15 am
What’s up Thec? Happy Friday the 13th!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Given McK’s answers to Pryor regarding the b/u position, the “goal” is for him to be the #2, eventually. So for now, who is the b/u Reggie? Do we have one? Is it Bomar? Whoever it is, who is going to push Pryor to earn that b/u role?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:16 am
All im saying is name me a back up you would have confidece in?
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Whoever the staff names the backup.
As of know, it is still open, and new arms will be brought in.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Then I want you to the new GM in the Hue “used car salesman” category since he just told us Pryor was the #2.
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Exactly…
April 13th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Thec,
I do know one thing, I would much rather have Pryor over that hack Troy Smith, lol.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Name someone you would bring in, and he willl beat them out…
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I want Matt Leinart to be brought in. I also want Pryor to “beat him out”. But in the meantime, he gets pushed, and learns to be an NFL QB. He would earn it. Then go ahead and cut Leinart back to unemployment lines.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Had he not got a tattoo he would of went in late 1st earlier third
April 13th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Whoever the staff names the backup.
As of know, it is still open, and new arms will be brought in.
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TPRYOR will be given every opportunity to be the number 2. When he beats out whoever you have in mind, you will be deduced to “GM used car salesman”
April 13th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Thec,
I do know one thing, I would much rather have Pryor over that hack Troy Smith, lol.
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hahahahahahahha…Touche
April 13th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I would be suprised if TP is the primary backup next week.
I believe Bomar will start off as the #2.
We shall see.
Pryor will certainly get way more run in the preseason, as his ceiling is massively higher than Bomar’s.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Leinart already knows Knapp’s offense. I would sign him to compete with Pryor. If Pryor wins the job, that would be great. Leinart seems like a better QB than Boller, possibly better than Garbagekowski too.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I would much rather have Pryor over that hack Troy Smith, lol.
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man you have a steel trap…went to the wayback machine….still lol….
April 13th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Leinrt couldnt push a broom let alone pryor. I understand what your saying ,but lienrt? How about Billy Volic
April 13th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Pryor should be smart and ready to go…didn’t he say half way through the season that he already had the playbook down?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:22 am
I would have to agree with bringing someone in to really push the kid.
Give him nada, make him earn to get burn…
April 13th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Breaking news:
The Oakland Raiders are currently in negotiations with Dwight Howard.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:25 am
bunk moorland Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Leinrt couldnt push a broom let alone pryor. I understand what your saying ,but lienrt? How about Billy Volic
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Leinart was in Houston last year where Knapp was QB coach. Knapp runs a similar scheme to what we’ve seen out of the Texans. He’d be familiar with a lot of the concepts and terminology already
That said, if Leinart isn’t brought to compete as backup with Knapp here, it says loud and clear we don’t want him.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Pryor really should have gotten some playing time in those Packer and Dolphin games last year after they were already blown out. Hue was a garbage coach.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Maybe Lebron will quit basketball and play football. He would probably too many passes in the 4th quarter, though.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:28 am
220.Mark Clemens Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Pryor really should have gotten some playing time in those Packer and Dolphin games last year after they were already blown out. Hue was a garbage coach.
That I agree! I was saying that in the 3rd qtr when it was already obvious!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Pryor really should have gotten some playing time in those Packer and Dolphin games last year after they were already blown out. Hue was a garbage coach.
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I would agree that he should have certainly got the last drive or two.
Instead Hue had TJ Housh in there padding his stats to nobody’s gain.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:29 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and happy Friday the 13th !!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Both Terrell Pyror and Mo Clarett went to OSU, got kicked out, had to wait a year for the draft (different for each, but somewhat similar) and weren’t allowed to use the OSU campus for their Pro day.
Want to guess which player had more teams attend his pre-draft workout?
Unfortunately it wasn’t Pryor, but the fat drunk guy.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Let’s not dwell on the past. Let’s look to the future…
backup backup backup TE wasn’t a priority to bring in now, backup QB to compete with Pryor was.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:31 am
CP tree trunk will not make through the season . Have you seen CP do roll outs and bootlegs? Lol. He will be hamered. Reggie already said TP will be the #2. Get ready for TP time.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Unfortunately it wasn’t Pryor, but the fat drunk guy.
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JFB, i never had a pro-day !! lol lol lol
April 13th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Reggie already said TP will be the #2.
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The transcript is on the previous thread, and he says no such thing.
Just that it is their “goal” to have him at #2.
I believe Bomar is the #2 next week, with Pryor getting every chance (as he should) to earn the #2 gig throughout the preseason.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:34 am
How does one set up a pro day if you haven’t played football in 7 years? Just wondering how that happens?
I imagine you sign an agent, and somehow that agent is able to talk to NFL teams secretaries without the line going dead. This entire story seems crazy!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Mark Clemens Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Pryor really should have gotten some playing time in those Packer and Dolphin games last year after they were already blown out. Hue was a garbage coach
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I agree Pryor should have been put in during those blowouts. I think it was more of Hue being a rookie coach more than just being an idiot. I like Hue and am still dissapointed he didn’t get another year. I know it’s not a popular opinion but you like who like.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:35 am
And who is his Bomar guy???
April 13th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Mike,
I thought is was held at Southern Maryland CC, with attending teams the Golden Corral, Flying Dog Brewery, Flexall 454, and Buffalo Wild Wings?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Both Terrell Pyror and Mo Clarett went to OSU, got kicked out, had to wait a year for the draft (different for each, but somewhat similar) and weren’t allowed to use the OSU campus for their Pro day.
Want to guess which player had more teams attend his pre-draft workout?
Unfortunately it wasn’t Pryor, but the fat drunk guy.
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Damn…might as well compare him with Jamarcus!
Don’t really know the beef you got against the kid, but at least wait and see what he has out on the field!
At least till pre-season ends..
April 13th, 2012 at 7:37 am
BTW…Good Morning Raider Nation!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:37 am
The NFL year is officially underway and is almost 2 weeks old. We should already have the depth chart at least pencilled out by now at QB. There should be a plan in place for GK and crew. Bomar at QB#2? With TP to someday take his place? Really? Is that the plan?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:38 am
See, this is how you take a flier on a basketball player. Just some schlub free agent who you can cut in training camp, and not even feel it. What you don’t do is waste a 1st rounder on him (see Ricky Dudley)
April 13th, 2012 at 7:38 am
*you
April 13th, 2012 at 7:39 am
HairyBush Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Mark Clemens Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Pryor really should have gotten some playing time in those Packer and Dolphin games last year after they were already blown out. Hue was a garbage coach
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I agree Pryor should have been put in during those blowouts. I think it was more of Hue being a rookie coach more than just being an idiot. I like Hue and am still dissapointed he didn’t get another year. I know it’s not a popular opinion but you like who like.————————————————————–I cant blame him. No lead is safe when Suck bressnahan is d cordinater
April 13th, 2012 at 7:40 am
I would put $$ down that Leinart and T.O. will be Raiders at some point this season.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:40 am
No to Lienart and Young. I’ll take my chances with Pryor
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agreed with Jhill!
who else is available?
Donovan McNabb, Luke McCown & Jake Delhomme?
LOL
April 13th, 2012 at 7:41 am
I imagine you sign an agent, and somehow that agent is able to talk to NFL teams secretaries without the line going dead. This entire story seems crazy!
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I heard he sent out twitter pics of him shirtless in front of his bathroom mirror, like some backpage whore, and got some interest for his pro-day.
Modern-day media for you.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Where’s Charlie Frye? Why not bring him into be a camp body? Dude was aces at the x’s and o’s.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:42 am
what is Shaq doing these days?
the locker room could use his veteran leadership..
Also, I’m pretty sure Allen Iverson could play safety in the NFL
sign’em Reggie!!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Yo Rockstar, The wife just got me a muzzle loader for my b-day. Pretty excited to have the hunting season extended this winter!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Don’t really know the beef you got against the kid, but at least wait and see what he has out on the field!
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No beef, just reality.
Don’t get the “if’s” when it comes to him and the draft. He was a mid 3rd rounder, who was saved from further failing by Al, and had half the league not even bother to show up for his pro day, probably meaning they had zero interest in drafting him, in any round.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:44 am
@ ottocrat
need your pick for OAK at #95 bro
please & thank you
April 13th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Bomar over TP? Hell no
April 13th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I heard he sent out twitter pics of him shirtless in front of his bathroom mirror, like some backpage whore, and got some interest for his pro-day.
Modern-day media for you.
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Wow, I hope that’s not true. These days it’s easy to photoshop yourself to have the tightest 6 pack. One of these days, somebody is going to set up an elaborate hoax and 10 NFL teams are going to send scouts on an April fools joke.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:46 am
The wife just got me a muzzle loader for my b-day. Pretty excited to have the hunting season extended this winter!
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woohoo!
HB, I’m going to Bass Pro today. Gotta get me a plug for the 12ga shotgun. Inherited from my grandfather, you can fit 5 shells in there. legal limit to hunt with in Missouri is only 3. don’t want to get busted by the conservation agent
Turkey season opens Monday!!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Question for you hunters…what happens if you shoot an animal that is not in season?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Where’s Charlie Frye? Why not bring him into be a camp body? Dude was aces at the x’s and o’s.
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good question.
it’s either him or other former Raiders Kyle Boller, Jeff Garcia or J.P. Losman
pass on all 4 ?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:48 am
QB depth chart. CP. TP. Bomar
April 13th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I golfed with the regional President of Bass last weekend, they threw me in his grouping. Good dude.
I believe they are based out of the state of Podunk.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:49 am
but, but, an NFL GM taking a chance on a height, weight guy? That never happens in the modern NFL. Next thing you know the Raiders will be picking players based on 40 times. McKenzie has taken some big chances this free agency period. If they work there will be huge payoffs. If Al had tried this there would be thousands of posts about how he can’t run a modern franchise. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:49 am
what happens if you shoot an animal that is not in season?
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you get a big fine.
could lose your hunting permit and/or heritage card.
Yes – even if it’s on your own property!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:40 am
No to Lienart and Young. I’ll take my chances with Pryor
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agreed with Jhill!
who else is available?
Donovan McNabb, Luke McCown & Jake Delhomme?
LOL
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How about Dennis Dixon?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Mike,
I thought is was held at Southern Maryland CC, with attending teams the Golden Corral, Flying Dog Brewery, Flexall 454, and Buffalo Wild Wings?
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lmao !! now i am hungry !!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am
As crazy is it sounds to sign a basketball player who hasn’t played football in like forever, which sounds like a crazy Al move…..
Reality is Al wouldn’t touch this dude with a 4.71 40. First question Al would make is, “what’s his 40 time?” and the response would be dial tone.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:46 am
The wife just got me a muzzle loader for my b-day. Pretty excited to have the hunting season extended this winter!
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woohoo!
HB, I’m going to Bass Pro today. Gotta get me a plug for the 12ga shotgun. Inherited from my grandfather, you can fit 5 shells in there. legal limit to hunt with in Missouri is only 3. don’t want to get busted by the conservation agent
Turkey season opens Monday!!
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Yeah, 3 is the limit here as well. I never even shot a muzzle loader before, I’m hoping to get a hold of my godfather who has experience with them. I feel like I’m in the 1800’s with this thing even though it looks modern lol My friend is trying to get permission from this woman up the street so we can hunt her land. There are like 100 turkeys there on any given day!
It’s funny those conservation agents are bigger dick heads than cops!
April 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Thanks Rockstar, now I have to ask…what’s a heritage card? Sorry bro, you know I’m from Hawaii…
April 13th, 2012 at 7:52 am
258.R8ER MIKE Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Mike,
I thought is was held at Southern Maryland CC, with attending teams the Golden Corral, Flying Dog Brewery, Flexall 454, and Buffalo Wild Wings?
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lmao !! now i am hungry !!
LOL< Me too
April 13th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Rhett Bomar is a beast!!!! He kicks ass in madden!!!!, Bomar to Tp all day son!!!!….. J/k, Bomar was the #1 rated high school QB before committing to OU along with Adrian Peterson.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Don’t really know the beef you got against the kid, but at least wait and see what he has out on the field!
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No beef, just reality.
Don’t get the “if’s” when it comes to him and the draft. He was a mid 3rd rounder, who was saved from further failing by Al, and had half the league not even bother to show up for his pro day, probably meaning they had zero interest in drafting him, in any round.
—————————————————————————————————————- In the same comment you say you dont get the”ifs” then proseed to say “probably”. Isnt that the same thing? Example. Half the league didnt show up for his pro day,probably meaning they knew he was so good he wouldnt last to there pick.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am
263.Raiderboi18 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Rhett Bomar is a beast!!!! He kicks ass in madden!!!!, Bomar to Tp all day son!!!!….. J/k, Bomar was the #1 rated high school QB before committing to OU along with Adrian Peterson.
Thanks! I never heard of him…and I’m sorry too lazy to google anything right now…
Did he ever make it at OU?
April 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am
I golfed with the regional President of Bass last weekend, they threw me in his grouping. Good dude.
I believe they are based out of the state of Podunk.
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@JFB
there are no better people in this world than Podunkers
city slickers tend to hate, when they have no experience in this part of the country or with people like us
every single one of you fools would love fishing, hunting, trapping & gigging with me. But instead you’ll make fun of me and what I do, because you don’t understand it and it would make you nervous being out of your element/comfort zone
April 13th, 2012 at 7:55 am
He was drafted in the 3rd of the supplemental draft, and half the teams didn’t show up, so…..
Tom Brady was a 6th round pick.
Based on your Logic, TP is better than T Brady.
Based on this logic, TK, Bryant, and Reece are garbage. They didn’t get drafted.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Yeah. Reggie this and reggie that. Bringing in this basketball player is a total AL move excpet the 40 time is a little slower than AL liked.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Thanks Rockstar, now I have to ask…what’s a heritage card?
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@Hwnrdr
you get one once you complete the hunter safety course. I think you have to have one if you hunt between the ages of 12-60 or something like that.
permit (ie. tags) are purchased every year prior to (or during) the season
April 13th, 2012 at 7:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am
I golfed with the regional President of Bass last weekend, they threw me in his grouping. Good dude.
I believe they are based out of the state of Podunk.
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@JFB
there are no better people in this world than Podunkers
city slickers tend to hate, when they have no experience in this part of the country or with people like us
every single one of you fools would love fishing, hunting, trapping & gigging with me. But instead you’ll make fun of me and what I do, because you don’t understand it and it would make you nervous being out of your element/comfort zone
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@ Rockstar:
At least when the apocolypse hits we will be able to fend for ourselves! The city slickers will come up to us starving and be like hey man I’m starving can I have some of that fire roasted venison? lol
April 13th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I still am a believer in Al Davis S/W/H players. You can’t coach speed. I never had a problem with him reaching for some of his “projects” and trying to develop them.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:57 am
He did ok as a freshman but got kicked off the team his sophomore year for pretending to work at a car dealership n getting paid big bucks. Then he played out his college career at Sam Houston st. Drafted by the Giants for a DUI, signed by the Vikings n cut again. Now he’s with us.,
April 13th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Draft status means nothing.
JaBustus was the 1st pick of the draft, and most teams were at his pro day, so does that mean he is better than TP?
LOL
April 13th, 2012 at 7:59 am
272.Raiderboi18 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:57 am
He did ok as a freshman but got kicked off the team his sophomore year for pretending to work at a car dealership n getting paid big bucks. Then he played out his college career at Sam Houston st. Drafted by the Giants for a DUI, signed by the Vikings n cut again. Now he’s with us.,
Thanks man! Appreciate it!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:00 am
RB Blount punched a kid and didn’t get drafted, so he can’t play too?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Thanks! I never heard of him…and I’m sorry too lazy to google anything right now…
Did he ever make it at OU?
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Bomar got a job at a car dealership and was payed thousands of dollars for doing little work. He was forced to leave Oklahoma and play for Sam Houston State. He was drafted by the Giants in the 5th round. While with the Vikings, he was arrested for drunk driving during training camp.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:00 am
I meant cut for getting a DUI. I’d take Dennis Dixon in a heartbeat!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:01 am
270.HairyBush Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am
I golfed with the regional President of Bass last weekend, they threw me in his grouping. Good dude.
I believe they are based out of the state of Podunk.
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@JFB
there are no better people in this world than Podunkers
city slickers tend to hate, when they have no experience in this part of the country or with people like us
every single one of you fools would love fishing, hunting, trapping & gigging with me. But instead you’ll make fun of me and what I do, because you don’t understand it and it would make you nervous being out of your element/comfort zone
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@ Rockstar:
At least when the apocolypse hits we will be able to fend for ourselves! The city slickers will come up to us starving and be like hey man I’m starving can I have some of that fire roasted venison? lol
Venison! Yummy! haven’t had that in years! I give a lot of respect to you guys! In Hawaii, we hunt pig, but that’s all year round…no need for license! There is also an abundance of goats for some reason! If you ever had goat, it’s actually pretty good!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I believe in Bomar!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Bring back Tui, He just needs the right system lol
April 13th, 2012 at 8:01 am
In the same comment you say you dont get the”ifs” then proseed to say “probably”. Isnt that the same thing? Example. Half the league didnt show up for his pro day,probably meaning they knew he was so good he wouldnt last to there pick.
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Facts are, he wasn’t a 1st round pick, he was a 3rd round pick, half the league didn’t show up to his pro-day and half the league passed on him at least 3 times.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
I never even shot a muzzle loader before, I’m hoping to get a hold of my godfather who has experience with them. I feel like I’m in the 1800’s with this thing even though it looks modern
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@HB
congrats man. you’re going to have a blast. just make sure you keep that thing clean!
it’s so awesome to shoot deer with one, because you can’t see for a second after you fire. all this black smoke. then you just see the deer drop. no better feeling. I just got my first muzzle loader on Father’s Day of last year. prior to that I had been using my father n laws.
What are you hunting turkeys with?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
If you ever had goat, it’s actually pretty good!
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I like cabrita very much.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
every single one of you fools would love fishing, hunting, trapping & gigging with me. But instead you’ll make fun of me and what I do, because you don’t understand it and it would make you nervous being out of your element/comfort zone
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As long as beer is involved, I am in!!!
And while YOU PEOPLE stayed in the Valley to get your schooling, I ventured up north into the wildnerness and spent many a weekend fishing. Gigging??? Not so sure of that, but again beer me.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Venison! Yummy! haven’t had that in years! I give a lot of respect to you guys! In Hawaii, we hunt pig, but that’s all year round…no need for license! There is also an abundance of goats for some reason! If you ever had goat, it’s actually pretty good!————————————-
I’m a chef and I take pride in turning foods that are not typical into something delicious. I have not had goat but I’m sure marinated and cooked properly it’s good eatin.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
I know this isn’t a big deal considering the guy most likely got paid very little but I was sharing what my ex-roommate had said about Hardy so you guys won’t get your hopes up.
Pryor definitely is back-up material too btw. I think you guys need to take into account where he ranks among this draft class of quarterbacks. I personally think he’s like a Kaepernick type QB. Hence you guys even comparing the two in this comment section already. The thing about Pryor is that he already has been in the pros for almost a full season as opposed to a QB getting drafted in two weeks. So I would definitely have Pryor as my No. 2. Meanwhile Palmer has 3 more seasons left in him. After those 3 seasons, Pryor should be polished and ready to go.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Facts are Jabusts was the 1st pick of the draft. T Brady was a 6th round pick, and a lot of players don’t get drafted like TK, Reece, Bryant, and Blount.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:04 am
276.Mark Clemens Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Thanks! I never heard of him…and I’m sorry too lazy to google anything right now…
Did he ever make it at OU?
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Bomar got a job at a car dealership and was payed thousands of dollars for doing little work. He was forced to leave Oklahoma and play for Sam Houston State. He was drafted by the Giants in the 5th round. While with the Vikings, he was arrested for drunk driving during training camp.
So I guess this kid might have something to offer! Thanks Mark!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Bring back Tui, He just needs the right system
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LOL!
yeah, maybe he’s just a late bloomer?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:05 am
The entire league Passed on T Brady for 5 rounds, do you are saying TP is better QB prospect than T Brady?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
I never even shot a muzzle loader before, I’m hoping to get a hold of my godfather who has experience with them. I feel like I’m in the 1800’s with this thing even though it looks modern
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@HB
congrats man. you’re going to have a blast. just make sure you keep that thing clean!
it’s so awesome to shoot deer with one, because you can’t see for a second after you fire. all this black smoke. then you just see the deer drop. no better feeling. I just got my first muzzle loader on Father’s Day of last year. prior to that I had been using my father n laws.
What are you hunting turkeys with?
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I use the same gun I use for duck season, I just change out the choke (Mossburg 835) I also use this gun for deer I just put on a slug barrel. (which cost more than the gun, go figure!)
April 13th, 2012 at 8:06 am
So* you ….
April 13th, 2012 at 8:06 am
280. Tui! Yeah Tui never got a fair shot. He was showing signs of greatness before he got hurt. I think it was the detriot home game.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:07 am
O,
You are on the record for liking long-term trends, care to visit the correlation where one is drafted to how many Pro Bowls they will make, or the trend of recent HOF inductee’s who were mostly early draft picks?
Or should we focus on the outliers?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:07 am
TP Haters are funny especially the ones who like Tebow. I don’t understand it.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:08 am
285.HairyBush Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Venison! Yummy! haven’t had that in years! I give a lot of respect to you guys! In Hawaii, we hunt pig, but that’s all year round…no need for license! There is also an abundance of goats for some reason! If you ever had goat, it’s actually pretty good!————————————-
I’m a chef and I take pride in turning foods that are not typical into something delicious. I have not had goat but I’m sure marinated and cooked properly it’s good eatin.
I’m married to a Filipino, so I know that some of the nastiest looking or even smelling foods taste friggen delicious! Never turn my head on food! Always try everything at least once!!!
Escargo, never thought I would even come near to eating a snail, but had some and it was delicious!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Gigging??? Not so sure of that, but again beer me.
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@JFB
google it. tons of fun. you’re basically trying to stab fish or frogs with a long 3-5 pronged spear
if you get REALLY brave, try noodlin’ (however – it is illegal in Missouri)
April 13th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Hey RaiderRockStar,
I’m picking Sean Spence for the Raider’s 95th.
Thanks for making list!
Gotta run to. Work.
Have a good day, Nation!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:09 am
293.RaidO Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:06 am
280. Tui! Yeah Tui never got a fair shot. He was showing signs of greatness before he got hurt. I think it was the detriot home game.
Yes it was, the game after Gannon got hurt…the it was the … Oh goodness, what was his name that was drafted by Seattle???
April 13th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I didn’t say I like LT trends. What I said was you can’t call it a trend if it only happened once.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:01 am
In the same comment you say you dont get the”ifs” then proseed to say “probably”. Isnt that the same thing? Example. Half the league didnt show up for his pro day,probably meaning they knew he was so good he wouldnt last to there pick.
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Facts are, he wasn’t a 1st round pick, he was a 3rd round pick, half the league didn’t show up to his pro-day and half the league passed on him at least 3 times.
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Fact: Brady was selected 199th overall, probably didn’t even have a pro day, 31 teams passed on him 6.2 times…
What was that?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The entire league Passed on T Brady for 5 rounds, do you are saying TP is better QB prospect than T Brady?
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I think it would be very fair to say Pryor was considered a more talented player coming out of college than Brady.
Talent is what the draft is based off. Nobody knows how much one will work or enjoy competiting once they get drafted.
Brady works harder and is one of the greatest competitors of our lifetime, but I bet Jabustus could roll out of bed right now and heave the ball farther than Tom can.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Vegas,
Why not? Do the research and let me know what you find.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:11 am
tomorrow I celebrate 5 years of marriage with the woman of my dreams.
she’s not reading this, but HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, BABY!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Pryor really should have gotten some playing time in those Packer and Dolphin games last year after they were already blown out. Hue was a garbage coach.
That I agree! I was saying that in the 3rd qtr when it was already obvious!!!
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Easy to say that in retrospect, but at the time Hue had this team playing for a playoff birth, and Palmer needed all the reps he could get. We weren’t eliminated from the race until the final SD game.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:11 am
you’re basically trying to stab fish or frogs with a long 3-5 pronged spear
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Remind me not to go gigging with Dick Cheney.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Brady works harder and is one of the greatest competitors of our lifetime, but I bet Jabustus could roll out of bed right now and heave the ball farther than Tom can.
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Brady does have a hell of a cannon though.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:13 am
RRS,
Nice. Congrats man.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Any of you hunters ever get caught in a Deliverance type situation?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:13 am
it was good to see Ed Teach talking up Sammy Brown last night.
I’m tempted to slap that down as his pick …
would that be inappropriate?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:14 am
What I said was you can’t call it a trend if it only happened once.
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How often or how long must it take to be a short-term trend, or do you not look at short-term trends compared to long-term trends?
I.E (just making numbers up), historically 3 DB’s were taken in the first round since they draft started, however the last 10 years, 5 DB’s have averaged being took in the first round.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:15 am
I like Sammy Brown as our 4th rounder. Would still love if Chapman was our 3rd. But that’s looking less and less likely.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Congrats, Rockstar!
Did u get my pick a few posts back?
Thanks!! And what will the lucky winner(s) receive?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Hwnrdr Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:08 am
285.HairyBush Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Venison! Yummy! haven’t had that in years! I give a lot of respect to you guys! In Hawaii, we hunt pig, but that’s all year round…no need for license! There is also an abundance of goats for some reason! If you ever had goat, it’s actually pretty good!————————————-
I’m a chef and I take pride in turning foods that are not typical into something delicious. I have not had goat but I’m sure marinated and cooked properly it’s good eatin.
I’m married to a Filipino, so I know that some of the nastiest looking or even smelling foods taste friggen delicious! Never turn my head on food! Always try everything at least once!!!
Escargo, never thought I would even come near to eating a snail, but had some and it was delicious!!!
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Ever had Balut?
I cracked that sucker open (hammered and baked) and still couldn’t bite that chicks head off!
Blew chunks moments later..told myself never again!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Remind me not to go gigging with Dick Cheney.
Any of you hunters ever get caught in a Deliverance type situation?
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LOL!!
no
April 13th, 2012 at 8:16 am
hwnrdr Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:09 am
293.RaidO Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:06 am
280. Tui! Yeah Tui never got a fair shot. He was showing signs of greatness before he got hurt. I think it was the detriot home game.
Yes it was, the game after Gannon got hurt…the it was the … Oh goodness, what was his name that was drafted by Seattle???
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Rick Mirer
April 13th, 2012 at 8:16 am
TK: undrafted
Bryant: undrafted
Reece: undrafted
There are undrafted players on every team, so does that mean they can’t play, or does it mean the draft is not an exact science and a crapshoot?
A lot factors are involved in drafting players such as their size, speed, school, off the field issues, etc…
Forming your opinions on who can play and cant based on draft status makes no sense to me. I have seen the kid play, and I’m comfortable saying he will start in the NFL.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Balut?
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?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
How big of a surprise would it be if Reggie traded away Pryor for a decent established vet QB on another team, or a draft pick?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
what will the lucky winner(s) receive?
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@ Ark
got your pick. winner receives bragging rights
Also, the winner of Big Ted’s MUP list was supposed to get a autographed Darryl Blackstock photo
was that ever awarded??
April 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
How big of a surprise would it be if Reggie traded away Pryor for a decent established vet QB on another team, or a draft pick?
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That is about as likely as McFadden playing 16 games lol
April 13th, 2012 at 8:19 am
HairyBush Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Balut?
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Balut (duck egg), a boiled, fertilized egg
April 13th, 2012 at 8:19 am
McFadden playing 16 games = Oakland AFC Division Champs
print that!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
what will the lucky winner(s) receive?
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@ Ark
got your pick. winner receives bragging rights
Also, the winner of Big Ted’s MUP list was supposed to get a autographed Darryl Blackstock photo
was that ever awarded??
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Thanks for reminding me, I want by autographed photo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:20 am
guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:19 am
McFadden playing 16 games = Oakland AFC Division Champs
print that!
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Not AFC west? full blown AFC champs?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:18 am
How big of a surprise would it be if Reggie traded away Pryor for a decent established vet QB on another team, or a draft pick?
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After the comment he made??
Q: Do you see Terrelle Pryor as a viable possibility as a backup QB this year?
McKENZIE: Absolutely. Yep!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Not AFC west? full blown AFC champs?
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Why not? It’s Friday the 13th
April 13th, 2012 at 8:22 am
314.r8eray Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Hwnrdr Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:08 am
285.HairyBush Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Venison! Yummy! haven’t had that in years! I give a lot of respect to you guys! In Hawaii, we hunt pig, but that’s all year round…no need for license! There is also an abundance of goats for some reason! If you ever had goat, it’s actually pretty good!————————————-
I’m a chef and I take pride in turning foods that are not typical into something delicious. I have not had goat but I’m sure marinated and cooked properly it’s good eatin.
I’m married to a Filipino, so I know that some of the nastiest looking or even smelling foods taste friggen delicious! Never turn my head on food! Always try everything at least once!!!
Escargo, never thought I would even come near to eating a snail, but had some and it was delicious!!!
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Ever had Balut?
I cracked that sucker open (hammered and baked) and still couldn’t bite that chicks head off!
Blew chunks moments later..told myself never again!
Oh heck no!!! Balut? Couldn’t even stand the smell…but my father in law would just crack it open and …slurp!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Why not? Do the research and let me know what you find.
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Can’t do too much research right now by last years draft class (recent players inducted):
-Cortez Kennedy (#3 overall)
-Chris Doleman (#4 overall)
-Willie Roaf (#8 overall)
-Curtis Martin (3rd rounder)
-Dermonti Dawson (2nd rounder)
2011
-Deon (#3 overall)
-Marshall Faulk (#2 overall)
-Richard Dent (8th rounder)
-Shannon Sharpe (7th rounder)
2010
-Ricky Jackson (2nd round)
-Russ Grimm (3rd round)
-Jerry Rice (1st round)
-Emmit Smith (1st round)
-Floyd Little (1st round)
-John Randle (undrafted)
So the last three years, you got 1 undrafted guy, 2 late round guys, 4 mid round guys, and 8 first rounders.
Yes there is outliers, like Brady in the 6th round and Jamarcus #1 overall, but on a macro-level, these draft guys get it right more often than not. That’s why most HOFers and Pro Bowlers are 1st round picks, especially of late.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:22 am
I watched the Oak@Hou game last nite. (game after Al passed) I was alittle choked up at the end. Even though I like Hue I have to admit it was cold blooded to cut Bruce davis right after he blocked that punt.
DHB,Huff, And Jano (all Al 1st rounders) were the reason they prevailed.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I always thought as Marcel Reece as our Antonio gates and with ausberry on the verge of being known with his speed and size I really don’t see the addition of this guy. If he runs 4.7 the majority lb’s and de’s can be on this guys hip when ever he runs his routte. I don’t know about this one but I ain’t expecting a gram or gates prototype, hope he has real long arms and can jump high better not shy away from contract.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:25 am
How big of a surprise would it be if Reggie traded away Pryor for a decent established vet QB on another team, or a draft pick?
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@G123
I would be surprised if Reggie traded Pryor away for … ANYTHING!!
he’s got tremendous potential. Reggie has no picks. There aren’t any young stud free agent QB’s that are dirt cheap for Palmer to take under his wing. We aren’t gonna waste pick #95 on a project QB. our “established vet” is Carson Palmer. Pryor is the guy we’re gonna groom. #3QB is Bomar unless him and Pryor both stink when they see playing time on the field (OTA’s, camp, preseason)
I’m probably the minority here, but I think we’re good at QB. Bring in an undrafted kid to play QB and be another “camp arm”. If he beats out Bomar? good for him.
I wouldn’t care if we signed somebody else cheap like Kellen Clemens or A.J. Feeley to hold a clipboard instead of rolling with Bomar or an undrafted kid either
April 13th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Whatever his wing span or other measureables. A TE who runs a 4.7 forty is Brandon Myers dream come true. He now has someone who makes him look athletic.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:26 am
He wont make the roster.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:27 am
How often or how long must it take to be a short-term trend, or do you not look at short-term trends compared to long-term trends?
I.E (just making numbers up), historically 3 DB’s were taken in the first round since they draft started, however the last 10 years, 5 DB’s have averaged being took in the first round.
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It has to happen more than ONE TIME to be a trend. I’ll use your example from the prev debate. 10 DTs were drafted before the 95th pick, but is that a trend or a fluke. It could be the beginning of a trend (not a trend yet), but it can be a one time thing too due to a weak class, more teams need DTs than normal, etc…
April 13th, 2012 at 8:28 am
@RRS,
I realize you are prez of the TP fan club, but I am going to remain skeptical until he proves it to me. I’m not rooting against him. He is a Raider and I want him to prove my doubts wrong. But he’s gotta earn it. Nothing is for free.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Thanks! RRS!!!
Happy Friday the 13th everyone!!!!!
Watch out! Be careful out there today!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:29 am
it was cold blooded to cut Bruce davis right after he blocked that punt.
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Agreed. Sam Williams & Bruce Davis II were good special teamers.
Ricky Brown was too, and he was placed on I.R. for a stubbed pinky toe the day after Al passed …
Derek Hagan was another good special teamer that Hue axed
He put ‘Bones’ in a position to fail towards the end of the season!!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:30 am
One of the staples of the wco is passing to the fb as the primary receiver.. Reece will be busy at fb.. He wont be switching to te.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:30 am
he’s gotta earn it. Nothing is for free
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couldn’t agree more, G123
no more scholarships!!
you hearin’ this McJelly55 ??
April 13th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Vegas,
If you want to be more accurate in your research, you should only focus on HOF QBs. But we were talking in general so I understand.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Spurs, Mavs & Clippers all showed up last night..
watch out Lakers!!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Poe (350lbs) ran a 4.98 40. And did 44 reps of 225lbs on the bench.. Wow..
April 13th, 2012 at 8:36 am
The spurs better not slip
April 13th, 2012 at 8:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Spurs, Mavs & Clippers all showed up last night..
watch out Lakers!!
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After the Spurs got smashed the night before without Kobe?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:40 am
O Mock Draft 5.5:
3- OLB Sean Spence
4- DE Jonathan Massaquoi
5- CB Coryell Judie
5- OLB Miles Burris
6- OT Joe Long (Jake Long’s younger brother)
April 13th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I wish ee had a pick.. This draft will be so boring..
April 13th, 2012 at 8:42 am
After the Spurs got smashed the night before without Kobe?
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they got humbled. that was a wake up call!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I wish we had a first rd pick..
April 13th, 2012 at 8:44 am
RR,
Please change my pick to Sean Spence. No way Kendricks will be available at 95.
Thank you
April 13th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Wake up call..lol the giant woke up! 30 rebounds..
April 13th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I agree w/ RaiderRockstar at #332. And it’s not even being about Pryor’s “fan club”. It’s just football smart and common sense to want to have Pryor as your no.2 to groom because after all Cp3 may retire in 3-4 years?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Fire Del Negro!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Bomar got a job at a car dealership and was payed thousands of dollars for doing little work. He was forced to leave Oklahoma and play for Sam Houston State. He was drafted by the Giants in the 5th round. While with the Vikings, he was arrested for drunk driving during training camp.
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And this is the guy JFB likes over Pryor?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Marks hair Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Poe (350lbs) ran a 4.98 40. And did 44 reps of 225lbs on the bench.. Wow..
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And yet he couldn’t even dominate in Conference USA. Pass.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:49 am
@ RaidersNextGM
need your pick for OAK at #95 bro
please & thank you
April 13th, 2012 at 8:50 am
346. Long was named Winner of 2011 Gene Upshaw Award!
I say worth a look in 7-FA!
April 13th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Attn: Semi Pros
what is the best draft website with predictions for the Top 100 picks ??
April 13th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Poes the type of talent we need to finally stop the run.. He’ll go top 10.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Marks hair Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Poe’s the type of talent we need to finally stop the run.. He’ll go top 10.
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He’ll go top 10 based on his combine numbers. He was not productive at all. He’s kind of the DT equivalent of Michael Bush: someone who’s built to be a mauler but tries to get fancy.
Ta’amu or Chapman will be fine at NT, and one of them will hopefully be there at #95.
April 13th, 2012 at 8:58 am
I wanted to look at film for few possible prospects and then I’ll post my pick for 3rd round selection later on today
April 13th, 2012 at 8:59 am
I know Raiders don’t need a wideout but is anyone else intrigued by WR Nick Toon out of Wisconsin?
April 13th, 2012 at 8:59 am
360. All 3 will be gone..
April 13th, 2012 at 9:00 am
RR,
NFL draft scout, Walter Football, and draft countdown.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:01 am
And this is the guy JFB likes over Pryor?
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When did I say this?
I think he will be the #2 next week, just because it isn’t his first NFL camp.
All intentions are for TP to be the #2, not Rhett.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Spurs, Mavs & Clippers all showed up last night..
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When was the last time one of those teams beat the Lakers?
April 13th, 2012 at 9:02 am
thanks, O
April 13th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Anybody we draft will be a back up & special teamer.. So wr is just as likely as any other pos.. Reg will take the top guy on his board..
April 13th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Marks hair Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:59 am
360. All 3 will be gone..
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If they’re both gone, then we take the top LB and grab Hebron Fangupo from BYU in Round 5.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:04 am
All intentions are for TP to be the #2, not Rhett.
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But you think Rhett will be #2?
Just not understanding your thought process.
What do you think The Reggime is basing his intentions for Pryor to be the #2 on? Do you think Saunders is ok with Pryor being #2?
April 13th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Poe = biggest draft bust this season
He didn’t nothing in his games he played in.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Vegas,
Did you read post 335, and do you agree?
April 13th, 2012 at 9:09 am
But you think Rhett will be #2?
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To start camp, yes, just for the pace of things and to ease Pryor along.
We, as well as the staff, won’t know much until Pryor see’s a 3rd and 8 NFL defense for the first time and reacts.
I am just saying, The Reggie was asked three questions about Pryor on the last thread, and basically never endorsed him as the #2, as we sit today.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:09 am
RR,
These sites get more accurate closer to the draft. They consider team needs, team visits, and they have their own sources for information.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:10 am
I did, and that is why we get paid the big bucks, to determine if something is the BEGINNING of a trend, or just a statistical abberation.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Walter Football Mock
*** Round 1 ***
Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
Washington Redskins: Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, OT, USC
Cleveland Browns: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
St. Louis Rams: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State
Jacksonville Jaguars: Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
Miami Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
Carolina Panthers: Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
Buffalo Bills: Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
Kansas City Chiefs: David DeCastro, G, Stanford
Seattle Seahawks: Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
Arizona Cardinals: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
Dallas Cowboys: Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis
Philadelphia Eagles: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
New York Jets: Mark Barron, SS, Alabama
Cincinnati Bengals: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
San Diego Chargers: Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Alabama
Chicago Bears: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina
Tennessee Titans: Whitney Mercilus, DE/OLB, Illinois
Cincinnati Bengals: Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia
Cleveland Browns: Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
Detroit Lions: Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
Pittsburgh Steelers: Dont’a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
Denver Broncos: Kendall Wright, WR/KR, Baylor
Houston Texans: Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
New England Patriots: Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
Green Bay Packers: Shea McClellin, DE/OLB, Boise State
Baltimore Ravens: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
San Francisco 49ers: Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
New England Patriots: Devon Still, DE/DT, Penn State
New York Giants: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
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St. Louis Rams: Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
Indianapolis Colts: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
Minnesota Vikings: Harrison Smith, SS, Notre Dame
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
Cleveland Browns: Rueben Randle, WR, LSU
Jacksonville Jaguars: Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
St. Louis Rams: Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
Carolina Panthers: Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
Buffalo Bills: Josh Robinson, CB/KR, Central Florfida
Miami Dolphins: Chandler Jones, DE/OLB, Syracuse
Seattle Seahawks: Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall
Kansas City Chiefs: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
Dallas Cowboys: Ronnell Lewis, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
Philadelphia Eagles: Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
New York Jets: David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
New England Patriots: Amini Silatolu, G/OT, Midwestern State
San Diego Chargers: Kevin Zeitler, G, Wisconsin
Chicago Bears: Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech
Philadelphia Eagles: Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State
Tennessee Titans: Lavonte David, OLB, Nebraska
Cincinnati Bengals: Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
Detroit Lions: Bobby Massie, OT, Ole Miss
Atlanta Falcons: Kelechi Osemele, G, Iowa State
Pittsburgh Steelers: Kendall Reyes, DE/DT, Connecticut
Denver Broncos: Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
Houston Texans: Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California
Green Bay Packers: LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
Baltimore Ravens: Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
San Francisco 49ers: Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State
New England Patriots: Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
New York Giants: Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
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Can we safely assume none of these guys will be on the board at pick # 95 ???
April 13th, 2012 at 9:11 am
TOP 10 Bench Press Reps at the combine (prior to this year):
The Bench Press at the NFL Combine is used as a basic measure of strength. The event measures how many times a player can bench press 225 lbs. The best bench press scores ever recorded at the NFL Combine are:
1.51 reps – Justin Ernest (1999)
2.49 reps – Stephen Paea (2011)
3.45 reps – Leif Larsen (2000)
4.45 reps – Mike Kudla (2006)
5.45 reps – Mitch Petrus (2010)
6.44 reps – Brodrick Bunkley (2006)
7.44 reps – Jeff Owens (2010)
8.43 reps – Scott Young (2005)
9.42 reps – Isaac Sopoaga (2004)
10.42 reps – Tank Tyler (2007)
Has anybody heard of any of these guys, besides Bunkley? I guess Sopoaga and Petrus are still around.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:12 am
LMAO Vegas. I thought you were in Sales and not security analysis.
Can’t win with Vegas!
April 13th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I think Alshon Jeffery is going to be a beast, and would be a steal to the Colts in the early 2nd round.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Can we safely assume none of these guys will be on the board at pick # 95 ???
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I think so, yes. I don’t see anyone on that list with much of a chance of dropping to #95.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:15 am
I like the signing… low risk, high reward. At the very least, if he doesn’t pan out he’s cut with no cost.
Re: Backup QB. I like Pryor, and if Reggie and the crew say that he’s our #2, there’s a reason for it. If he doesn’t look to good in the OTA’s, I wouldn’t mind bringing in Young for the right price.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Best NFL Combine Forty Yard Dash Times (Official)
1.4.21 – Trindon Holliday (2010)
2.4.22 – Jacoby Ford (2010)
3.4.24 – Chris Johnson (2008)
4.4.24 – Rondel Menendez (1999)
5.4.25 – Demarcus Van Dyke (2011)
6.4.25 – Darius Heyward-Bay (2009)
7.4.26 – Jerome Mathis (2005)
8.4.27 – C.J. Spiller (2010)
9.4.27 – Stanford Routt (2005)
10.4.28 – Mike Wallace (2009)
11.4.28 – Champ Bailey (1999)
12.4.29 – Johnny Knox (2009)
13.4.29 – Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (2008)
14.4.29 – Fabian Washington (2005)
15.4.29 – Jay Hinton (1999)
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We can laugh at it, but I like the list of top 40 timed players over the benchpress list.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:16 am
I think so, yes. I don’t see anyone on that list with much of a chance of dropping to #95.
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thank you, YA
I trust & value your opinion on draft related matters
April 13th, 2012 at 9:16 am
?? think anyone will give up their #1 pick for the steelers mike wallace ??
April 13th, 2012 at 9:17 am
DVD, for being the 5th fastest player to enter the league through the combine, never seemed to catch anybody from behind last year.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Anyone else hear the Ryan Grant coming to Oakland rumors?
April 13th, 2012 at 9:21 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Think anyone will give up their #1 pick for the Steelers’ Mike Wallace ??
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Not if he’s still demanding Larry Fitzgerald money.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I pray somehow Ronnell Lewis drops to us.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Vegas,
Are you a CFP or CFA?
April 13th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Ryan Grant coming here? It’s always a possibility, but…never heard the rumor!
April 13th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I really like LaVonte David from Nebraska.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:28 am
No.
The execs want me to go the 18 month CFP school, but I would just rather get my masters.
There is other rinky-dink retirment “credentials” that I can pick up.
CFP stuff is too mickey mouse for me. I don’t care about your budgeting issues.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Vegas,
There are a few programs that allow you to do both (MBA & CFP). A few programs allow you to do CFA and MBA, but they are in Europe. I’m more interested in CFA.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Btw Vegas, maybe you should consider CFA, if you are that interested in analyzing securities.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Btw Vegas, maybe you should consider CFA, if you are that interested in analyzing securities.
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I am 31 years old with a good job and who saves a lot o money. I am not trying to rock the boat, just stay where I am until I am 52, the wife can retire on her federal pension and I can move back to Vegas.
That’s the plan, and any added work in between is not going to be enjoyed, lol.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:35 am
LMAO Vegas. I like it.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Planning to retire when I reach 50. I want to be a farmer.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:39 am
The only reason I am considering the CFP course/exam is because one of my local competitors is a CFP, who thinks he is so damn high and mighty (with a series 6 and half the AUM as us lol) that I just want to get the license and tell people how stupid and worthless it/he is.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Planning to retire when I reach 50. I want to be a farmer.
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???? tree farmer ????
April 13th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Planning to retire when I reach 50. I want to be a farmer.
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Not a bad idea. You can spend your sunset years collecting all those farm subsidies from the government.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Than again, I don’t need it and don’t want the added work.
Whatever HR genius created “personal and professional development” programs, I just want to punch him in his face.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Mike,
Is there anything else to farm/ grow?
LOL
April 13th, 2012 at 9:44 am
You are killing me Vegas.
Dude, Get your MBA/ CFP in 3 years, and demand more money to improve your retirement plan. More money = more fun at Vegas.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Duck,
I don’t think the Gov wants to subsidies me for what I plan to grow, but a lot can change the next 2 decades.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Vegas,
IS your employer willing to pay for MBA/ CFP?
April 13th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Mike,
Is there anything else to farm/ grow?
LOL
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I want to retire and open a clear eyes and munchie stand next to Os farm !!!!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 9:51 am
IS your employer willing to pay for MBA/ CFP?
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CFP yes, MBA have to be 5 years vested and than yes.
Makes it worth it, but than I get those and they want me to move up the ranks. Which sounds great, until they tell you, that you have to move to DC or Denver.
I actually like Albuquerque, my brand new 3,000 square foot home, and my little 6 pound dog THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 9:53 am
LMAO Mike. Don’t forget the glass/ smoke shop.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:53 am
I look at my regional president.
He has worked in Wisconsin, Texas, California and now in Denver. over about 15 years. No doubt a move up to DC is next.
That just doesn’t sound enticing. Maybe when I was 23 and single, but not these days.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:55 am
i can tell you cause i live here JFB… D.C. sucks !!
the weather sucks, the people suck, traffic sucks, it all just sucks !!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
This Sean Spencer guy is interesting. Seems to me that his size is his only negative, which leads to his shedding blocks ability being poor. But if he’s moved to outside linebacker, won’t need to worry much about that right?
April 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Eddie Mush, these days they NEED you in New Mexico.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:57 am
So you have 1-2 more years before you qualify for it.
IMHO: you should wait, do both (MBA/ CFP) and have your employer pay, and you will have more options with your current employer or other employers. Improving your credentials will help you achieve your goals faster, and it will improve your retirement plan.
Btw, I have a mini pin, but he is a beast. 20 pounds!
April 13th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Why would anyone want to live up in DC? All you have to do is visit once to want to make a beeline back to Reagan Nat’l Airport and back to someplace, anyplace else. Sorry R8er Mike.
April 13th, 2012 at 9:59 am
New Mex is beautiful, beautiful women, great food, low cost of living.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Vegas,
With better credentials, you can get a better job in your current location, or you can move to a finance hub like SF/ NY/ or Chicago.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:02 am
guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Why would anyone want to live up in DC? All you have to do is visit once to want to make a beeline back to Reagan Nat’l Airport and back to someplace, anyplace else. Sorry R8er Mike.
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PLEASE i agree 100% !!!
i work about 3 miles from the D.C. line, but i live 40 miles away in BEAUTIFUL SUNNY VACATION CAPITOL southern Maryland aka.. redneck central !!!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Btw, I have a mini pin, but he is a beast. 20 pounds!
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lol lol .. i have a choco. lab , hes my B.F.F… (big fat f@ck ) 100 lbs !!!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:06 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:02 am
guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Why would anyone want to live up in DC? All you have to do is visit once to want to make a beeline back to Reagan Nat’l Airport and back to someplace, anyplace else. Sorry R8er Mike.
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PLEASE i agree 100% !!!
i work about 3 miles from the D.C. line, but i live 40 miles away in BEAUTIFUL SUNNY VACATION CAPITOL southern Maryland aka.. redneck central !!!!!
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Been to DC at least a dozen times on business trips. The highlight of my vacation was always stepping off the plane at my home airport. I don’t blame you for living 40 mi away.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Ausberry is going to be a stud this year. I’m calling it now. He will emerge from our TE crew. No need to draft a TE.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am
LOL Mike. Labs are good dogs. Good god man! What do you feed the beast, and how much does that cost you?
April 13th, 2012 at 10:13 am
LOL, Mike probably gives the dog a super, making the dog hungry as f**k…why he’s 100 lbs! LOL
April 13th, 2012 at 10:13 am
i know what you mean Guest !! lol lol lol
live this close and dont go into D.C. for anything !!
he11 even the Redskins dont go to D.C. to play football.. they play in Landover Maryland !!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
LMAO Hwnrdr. Mike and the dog getting the munchies LMAO
April 13th, 2012 at 10:17 am
why he’s 100 lbs! LOL
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cause he a B.F.F. !!! lol lol lol but the vet said he isnt fat , hes just a big boy !!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Walter football has us taking 3 offensive players with our 5 draft picks …
I hope this doesn’t happen. this draft should be all about
DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
LMAO Hwnrdr. Mike and the dog getting the munchies LMAO
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lol lol lol … potato chips and milk bones, aint nothing better !!!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:19 am
425.R8ER MIKE Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:17 am
why he’s 100 lbs! LOL
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cause he a B.F.F. !!! lol lol lol but the vet said he isnt fat , hes just a big boy !!
If you turn around and the dog tells you to puff puff pass…lol
April 13th, 2012 at 10:20 am
427.R8ER MIKE Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:16 am
LMAO Hwnrdr. Mike and the dog getting the munchies LMAO
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lol lol lol … potato chips and milk bones, aint nothing better !!!
LOL…hey, my sister in laws cat used to get high off of me…used to always grab the cat’s mouth and exhale!!! It was always funny as heck!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
you know ,that damn dog is allways around me…. just might be something to it !! lol lol lol
April 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
if Josh Chapman (Alabama) & Alameda Ta’amu (Washington) are both off the board at pick #95, would it be foolish to draft NJB out of Baylor there?
Walter football has him off the board to the Steelers in RD4 before we pick again
April 13th, 2012 at 10:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
if Josh Chapman (Alabama) & Alameda Ta’amu (Washington) are both off the board at pick #95, would it be foolish to draft NJB out of Baylor there?
Walter football has him off the board to the Steelers in RD4 before we pick again
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Fangupo should still be on the board in Round 4, and maybe in Round 5 as well. No need to reach in Round 3 if Chapman and Ta’amu are both gone.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:26 am
430.R8ER MIKE Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
you know ,that damn dog is allways around me…. just might be something to it !! lol lol lol
LOL! Hey, aint nothing like having a buddy around to get high with…
April 13th, 2012 at 10:26 am
last 2 picks of the draft …
would anybody care if we selected local products D.J. Campbell & Asa Jackson to compete in the secondary ??
April 13th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Anyone in the 2nd round Walter football mock that is worth trading TK for? Assuming we can get a 2nd rounder for TK.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I think the Raiders should be patient with the NT thing. NJB is not nearly as good of a nose tackle prospect as Ian Williams was last year, and Williams ended up going undrafted.
Developmental NTs don’t seem to be valued very highly. And even if NJB is gone, Akiem Hicks and Hebron Fangupo will be around late.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:29 am
@ Duck
Walter football doesn’t even have Hebron Fangupo being drafted in the first 6 rounds … does the big fella have any talent or are we looking at another Terdell Sands/Travis Ivey type of guy?
April 13th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Fangupo will be around in the 6th. Might even be UDFA, who knows.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Anyone in the 2nd round Walter football mock that is worth trading TK for? Assuming we can get a 2nd rounder for TK.
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@G123
Ronnell Lewis, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California
Alameda Ta’amu, NT, Washington
April 13th, 2012 at 10:33 am
even if NJB is gone, Akiem Hicks and Hebron Fangupo will be around late.
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@ YA
is there a huge drop in talent when you go from a player like NJB to those other guys??
April 13th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Bobby Wagner would be a great fit here.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:34 am
@ YA
is there a huge drop in talent when you go from a player like NJB to those other guys??
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I don’t think so. NJB’s stock improved after a strong Senior Bowl, but I’m not convinced he’ll be picked higher than the 5th anyway.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:29 am
@ Duck
Walter football doesn’t even have Hebron Fangupo being drafted in the first 6 rounds … does the big fella have any talent or are we looking at another Terdell Sands/Travis Ivey type of guy?
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NFL Draft Scout has him as a fifth-rounder. Walter is probably scared off by his age (27), but it’s not that big a deal.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1697210/hebron-fangupo
April 13th, 2012 at 10:36 am
They have a name for people who move into an empty house with a fake lease…what is it called?
April 13th, 2012 at 10:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Anyone in the 2nd round Walter football mock that is worth trading TK for? Assuming we can get a 2nd rounder for TK.
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@G123
Ronnell Lewis, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California
Alameda Ta’amu, NT, Washington
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I agree, any of these guys is more a need going forward than TK is now.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:40 am
435.guest123 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Anyone in the 2nd round Walter football mock that is worth trading TK for? Assuming we can get a 2nd rounder for TK.
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Zach Brown
April 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
“They have a name for people who move into an empty house with a fake lease…what is it called?”
Squatter.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:43 am
lol Hwnrdr.. he is my buddy !!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:44 am
YA,
Exactly. I don’t think Chapman will be available, and that’s why my mock has no NTs. We can get one after the draft.
O Mock Draft 5.5:
3- OLB Sean Spence
4- DE Jonathan Massaquoi
5- CB Coryell Judie
5- OLB Miles Burris
6- OT Joe Long (Jake Long’s younger brother)
April 13th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Who are the teams that STILL have a bunch of cap room?
anybody know?
due to the rookie cap & wage scale, nobody really has to “break the bank” on any of these youngsters..
If there is a team out there with money to spend, who needs a DT, that would they consider trading a 2nd for TK ???
It would allow certain teams to pass on players like Cox, Poe, Brockers, Still & Worthy and focus on other (bigger) needs early in the draft!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:46 am
trade TK for a Squatter!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:47 am
trade TK for the Zach Brown band!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:47 am
RR,
Like I told you earlier, these sites get more accurate closer to the draft. 3-7 days before the draft.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:48 am
my mock has no NTs. We can get one after the draft.
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O,
Aubrayo Franklin?
April 13th, 2012 at 10:50 am
these sites get more accurate closer to the draft. 3-7 days before the draft.
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O,
more like 7:30 EST on 04/27
two weeks from today, baby!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RR,
We can sign a vet NT (players getting cut later), but I was talking about an URFA.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:52 am
I like the draft, it’s my favorite part of the season, but it’s hard to get very excited when you don’t have a 1st or 2nd round picks.
April 13th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I was talking about an URFA.
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yikes!
players not getting drafted expected to help us stuff the run? you are a gambling man, O!
I like that about you. But how long has the Run Defense been a problem? 9 years, NINE!
April 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Wow we hired a former cal state fullerton basketball plyer…
Hey my step brother is a former intramurals player at Cal State LA.
Maybe we can hire him for fullback?
April 13th, 2012 at 10:58 am
it’s hard to get very excited when you don’t have a 1st or 2nd round picks.
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I’m excited right now, but I’ll be even more excited 2 weeks from now at about pick #90 when you’re looking at the Top 10 guys still on the board
according to Walter, that’ll be :
Nigel Bradham, ILB, Florida State
Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette
Sean Spence, OLB, Miami
Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
Joe Adams, WR/KR, Arkansas
Chase Minnifield, CB/KR, Virginia
April 13th, 2012 at 11:02 am
“Aubrayo Franklin?”
He is still out there I heard that his play has dropped off as of late maybe he is a guy that Dennis Allen can motivate to play at a high level again.
If he is cheap RM will consider him I would assume.
Raider Rockstar I think that Tampa and KC are the 2 teams with the most cap room right now.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:02 am
RR,
It’s about Value. Do you want to reach to have a NT who may never play a down in the NFL, or would you rather draft the best player available?
Btw, The entire draft is a gamble bro.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:03 am
RR,
Did you change my pick to Sean Spence?
April 13th, 2012 at 11:05 am
YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Bobby Wagner would be a great fit here.
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Amen….
April 13th, 2012 at 11:05 am
The Saints owner Tom benson purchased the Hornets….no wonder he doesn’t want to pay Drew!
April 13th, 2012 at 11:06 am
raidertalk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Wow we hired a former cal state fullerton basketball plyer…
Hey my step brother is a former intramurals player at Cal State LA.
Maybe we can hire him for fullback?
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got any game tape? whats his measurables?
April 13th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Nigel Bradham, ILB, Florida State
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This guy brings it….
April 13th, 2012 at 11:07 am
RR,
Also, if we keep TK, we have Seymour, Houston, and Bryant, I don’t think a rookie NT is going to get many snaps. I rather draft players who can contribute this season.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I think that Tampa and KC are the 2 teams with the most cap room right now.
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thanks, Silver
I would trade Tommy Kelly to the Bucs for a 3rd rounder, #68 overall
April 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Tampa is running a 4-3, so I don’t see them interested in A. Franklin.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
RaidersNextGM Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
This Sean Spencer guy is interesting. Seems to me that his size is his only negative, which leads to his shedding blocks ability being poor. But if he’s moved to outside linebacker, won’t need to worry much about that right?
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He is going to need to get stronger, or he will wind up in the washing machine on most plays.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Tampa might be interested in TK, that I could see.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:11 am
if we keep TK, we have Seymour, Houston, and Bryant, I don’t think a rookie NT is going to get many snaps
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Seymour & Bryant are basically on one year contracts.
John Henderson is gone and if he would have stayed healthy, would have seen PLENTY of snaps last season!
btw, Houston is a starting DE right now.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Ronnell Lewis, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
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Another guy that can bring it….
April 13th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I’m excited right now, but I’ll be even more excited 2 weeks from now at about pick #90 when you’re looking at the Top 10 guys still on the board
according to Walter, that’ll be :
Nigel Bradham, ILB, Florida State
Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette
Sean Spence, OLB, Miami
Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
Joe Adams, WR/KR, Arkansas
Chase Minnifield, CB/KR, Virginia
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Casey Hayward!!!
Not that we need one, but that Joe Adams guy for Arkansas could be a great value pick (for another team) in the mid rounds.
Whenever I watched Arkansas play the last two years, I thought they had like 3 guys at WR who should warrant some interest from the NFL.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Spence is a perfect fit for Tampa 2 or 4-3 WLB due to his size.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Tampa might be interested in TK, that I could see.
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Yup – they could put him next to Gerald McCoy
Amobi Okoye is a backup & Brian Price sucks!
April 13th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Tampa signing A Okoye kind of limits their need for a TK trade.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Tommy Kelly is about 100 times better than these other guys on the Bucs roster:
95 John McCargo DT
90 Roy Miller DT
98 Frank Okam DT
96 Amobi Okoye DT
92 Brian Price DT
78 E. J. Wilson DT
April 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
I keep telling you guys, we aren’t going to run that much base defense (be it a 3-4 or 4-3) and we are going to be very creative.
So the need for some basic “true” NT is not a top priority.
I have said, and expect, that Desmond Bryant will got as much run as anyone at NT. His skill and size is a perfect comparision to Jay Ratcliff.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:16 am
I like that question that Reggie got, where he was asked if other GM’s were going to “test him out” with lowball offers. Made me think automatically about the Patriots-Raider trade history. I liked Reggie’s answer.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:17 am
TB invested a 1st in McCoy, and a high 2nd in Price, so I don’t think they are willing to invest a 2nd or 3rd to trade for another DT IMHO.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I rather see Houston at NT over Bryant.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Petrino Mistress….not bad
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/04/11/261032-jessica-dorrell-the-25-year-old-mistress-of-arkansas-football-coach-bo.jpg
April 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Chargers sign tackle Mario Henderson to one-year deal: http://bit.ly/IuXXge
April 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Not bad at all.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Tampa is bleeding at the secondary spots. They could get a nice boost if they draft Mo Claiborne, but that’s still not enough. Ronde is on his last legs and Talib is probably gone. Their only adequate free safety they just cut. I think Tampa is going to go heavy in the secondary on draft day.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:20 am
HGDaddy Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Chargers sign tackle Mario Henderson to one-year deal: http://bit.ly/IuXXge
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Just keep him away from the buffet line…
April 13th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Tampa’s LB’s all suck too.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I believe it was quoted as Desmond Bryant was the strongest guy on the team.
And with his education, I will take a leap and also say he is one of the smartest.
Probably not the case with Lamarr Houston. Instead of just holding up blockers, he will probably rather get in a fight with them and just completely pay no attention to his job as a “true” NT.
Bryant could do it, without any or many mental mistakes.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:22 am
JFB,
Was it your wife that worked at the VA in Vegas? The VA is pushing hard to close the Hot Springs facility. It will kill our town, and leave a bunch of veterans in Eastern WY, and Western NE and SD without nearby medical facilities. They want to farm to work out to little local hospitals who have no idea how to treat the issues that arise with Vets.
Sad deal…..hopefully our congressional delegation can get it stopped.
I am all for saving money, but how about cutting some GSA positions before you start cutting veteran’s benefits and services?
April 13th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Thec Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:06 am
raidertalk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Wow we hired a former cal state fullerton basketball plyer…
Hey my step brother is a former intramurals player at Cal State LA.
Maybe we can hire him for fullback?
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got any game tape? whats his measurables?
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Dude is about 5′5 300lbs and can kill it on the XBOX
April 13th, 2012 at 11:23 am
TO thinks he will play in the NFL this year and boy would you guys lose it if reggie sign him haha but i would not mind bringing TO in especially at Vet Min. But after this interview he damn near blew his chances but its the cowgirls no one care about the cowgirls
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/13/t-o-says-hell-play-this-year-but-romo-keeps-him-out-of-dallas/
April 13th, 2012 at 11:24 am
The Dischargers signed Mario Hendu.
This a great news for our D-Line.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
raidertalk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Thec Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:06 am
raidertalk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Wow we hired a former cal state fullerton basketball plyer…
Hey my step brother is a former intramurals player at Cal State LA.
Maybe we can hire him for fullback?
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got any game tape? whats his measurables?
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Dude is about 5′5 300lbs and can kill it on the XBOX
oh yeah he could probably run the 40 in less than a minute
April 13th, 2012 at 11:27 am
RaiderDuck Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:20 am
HGDaddy Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Chargers sign tackle Mario Henderson to one-year deal: http://bit.ly/IuXXge
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Just keep him away from the buffet line…
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He LL no, let’s send him a gift card for Sizzlers!
April 13th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I like my NTs to be over 300 pounds, and don’t use Ratliff from the Cowboys as example since I’m not impressed with him or that defense.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:29 am
LOL at Raccoon. What’s up bro?
April 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Dakota Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Petrino Mistress….not bad
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this one better?
http://deadspin.com/alison-melder/
April 13th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Chargers hire Mario Henderson…thats the best news I’ve heard all year
Th chargers under the leadership of the great norvel turner have officially returned to the days before shwn meirrman learned about steriods and ladanian tolmlison learn to cry
April 13th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I want to see video of Hardys Pro Day. Anybody seen any of it?
April 13th, 2012 at 11:33 am
If we can’t get a 2nd for Bryant, we’re not getting a 2nd for Kelly.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:34 am
DKnight007 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I want to see video of Hardys Pro Day. Anybody seen any of it?
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They put up a link on Post #9.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Reggie signing Hardy gave the Raiders a free draft pick in 2012.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
He played hoops at Cal State Fullerton the past two years after a two-year stint at Oral Roberts.
I wouldn’t mind but shes kinda old now
April 13th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Thec Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:05 am
YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Bobby Wagner would be a great fit here.
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Amen….
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In the 4th RD!
I like…
April 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Oral Roberts= Two gays named Bob????
April 13th, 2012 at 11:41 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Oral Roberts= Two gays named Bob????
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lol
Myabe that explains how a Cal State Fullerton B-ball player can get so far!
April 13th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Its a Christian university here in Tulsa…the golden eagles.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Here’s a thought… if Janoris Jenkins has damaged his draft stock enough to fall to #95, do the Raiders take him?
April 13th, 2012 at 11:46 am
In the 4th RD!
I like…
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He won’t get out of the 2nd round, most likely. Slim chance he’ll be there at the top of the 3rd. Snowball’s chance in hell he’ll be there at #95.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:49 am
We need to keep lbs in pass coverage a lot against Manning and his quick release to his slot reciever which means we need DL that can bring a strong pass rush on most downs. Tommy Kelley isn’t going anywhere this year and I would expect that any glimpse of a 3-4 will be soon forgotten. Matt Shaughnessy is going to have a monster year if he’s healthy and Tommy Kelley is going to the pro bowl.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Was it your wife that worked at the VA in Vegas?
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Yup, it is a joint facility there shared with active employees on base.
She is now in the ER in ABQ, which does everything but trauma.
Sucks to hear about that, I will ask my wife if she has heard about it (she is very active in all VA stuff). If they do leave, hopefully she gets some type of FERS benefit from it and can go join a private hospital until she can live off her hubby full-time.
Your wife is not bedside though right? On the clinical side of things? My wife isn’t, and her tootsies would make D-Mac cringe.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
499.HGDaddy Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Dakota Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Petrino Mistress….not bad
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this one better?
http://deadspin.com/alison-melder/
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How do these guys get these hotties?
Belichik is notorious for boinking hot chicks too.
Must be the $$$ they make.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
just because somebody “can play” NT, doesn’t mean they can play it well!
Ratliff without Wade Phillips is about as worthless as Joey Porter without Dick LeBeau imo
April 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
512.Just Win Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:49 am
We need to keep lbs in pass coverage a lot against Manning and his quick release to his slot reciever which means we need DL that can bring a strong pass rush on most downs. Tommy Kelley isn’t going anywhere this year and I would expect that any glimpse of a 3-4 will be soon forgotten. Matt Shaughnessy is going to have a monster year if he’s healthy and Tommy Kelley is going to the pro bowl.
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Horrible how there was absolutely NO PRESSURE from the front 4 on the last drives of SD and Detroit…
Seymour, and the rest, looked like they were just standing up pretending to try and apply some pressure…it looked like they were playing “patty cake” with the opposing o-linemen.
That crap has gotta stop.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Here’s a thought… if Janoris Jenkins has damaged his draft stock enough to fall to #95, do the Raiders take him?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
J Jenkins will get drafted before B Wagner.
April 13th, 2012 at 11:58 am
510.YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Here’s a thought… if Janoris Jenkins has damaged his draft stock enough to fall to #95, do the Raiders take him?
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Character issues or not, I don’t see Janoris falling much past 40-45
April 13th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The agent for Alabama NT Josh Chapman (ACL surgery) promises that his client will be ready for the start of training camp.
Chapman underwent surgery to repair his left ACL and meniscus in January after playing through the injury for the final eight games of his senior year. Agent predictions can’t be taken at face value, but there are no indications that Chapman has suffered any setbacks. He projects as a middle-round pick.
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter Apr 13 – 2:39 PM
April 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Here’s a thought… if Janoris Jenkins has damaged his draft stock enough to fall to #95, do the Raiders take him?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
J Jenkins will get drafted before B Wagner.
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Word is a lot of teams have a 3rd round grade on Jenkins – they’re scared away by his off-field exploits. Apparently he kept smoking weed (oh no! he’s the devil!) even after getting kicked out of Florida.
Might be the most talented corner in the draft. The dude is costing himself a lot of money.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Jenkins issue isn’t the weed, it was hit tweeting.
Plenty of college guys smoke pot, but how many were dumb enough to tweet about it (this fool actually tweeted “wake and bake” in the mornings), and also throw in some X-rated pics of girls while doing so?
April 13th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Chapman needs his agent to promise he will be ready for camp?
Sounds like he won’t be ready for camp.
Not an option in the 3rd round.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Jenkins issue isn’t the weed, it was hit tweeting.
Plenty of college guys smoke pot, but how many were dumb enough to tweet about it (this fool actually tweeted “wake and bake” in the mornings), and also throw in some X-rated pics of girls while doing so?
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Wasn’t that the Florida S, Will(?) Black last season?
April 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
512.Just Win Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:49 am
We need to keep lbs in pass coverage a lot against Manning and his quick release to his slot reciever which means we need DL that can bring a strong pass rush on most downs. Tommy Kelley isn’t going anywhere this year and I would expect that any glimpse of a 3-4 will be soon forgotten. Matt Shaughnessy is going to have a monster year if he’s healthy and Tommy Kelley is going to the pro bowl.
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Horrible how there was absolutely NO PRESSURE from the front 4 on the last drives of SD and Detroit…
Seymour, and the rest, looked like they were just standing up pretending to try and apply some pressure…it looked like they were playing “patty cake” with the opposing o-linemen.
That crap has gotta stop.
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Agreed. 100%
I actually think bringing in tollefson and rotating these guys will REALLY help the older Kelly and Syemore be productive late into the games
That idea was above the head of Huebris and Bres
April 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
The Chargers seem hell bent on x-Raiders such as Super Mario. Give the Raiders a 3rd round draft pick for not so super Rolando. Maybe Reggie can catch AJ in a moment of weakness after AJ fired up a fatty with a shot of Makers Mark.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Wasn’t that the Florida S, Will(?) Black last season?
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Ooooppss….wrong dope-smoking Florida Gator DB.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Hue Jackson And Chuck Bresnahan;
Together the collective defensive knowledge of a peanut shell
April 13th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
After watching his YouTube video I’m a little skeptical because it doesn’t seem like he has much burst/explosion coming off the line or out of his breaks. But I guess neither did Zach Miller. Still kinda figured he’d be an athletic freak or something to get noticed with no college experience. Does seem to have nice hands though. Am I trippin? Does a successful TE need more burst?
April 13th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Jenkins issue isn’t the weed, it was hit tweeting.
Plenty of college guys smoke pot, but how many were dumb enough to tweet about it (this fool actually tweeted “wake and bake” in the mornings), and also throw in some X-rated pics of girls while doing so?
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Sounds like a classic Al Davis pic!
the Reggime will stay away from this…
they want people who actually care about football
April 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
I’d take Chapman, no question. No way would I pass on a player who mans up and finishes the season with a partially torn ACL. A will to win that strong is a rare find, and something the Oakland Raiders could certainly use.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Also somebody on some blog somewhere kept saying he smoked hella trees. But so does everybody I s’pose.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Ooooppss….wrong dope-smoking Florida Gator DB.
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Haha, easy mistake to make. If I’m not mistaken, there was another Florida DB from last year’s drafts who had similar character concerns.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Ah I see I’m late on that
April 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Sleepy Chino Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Also somebody on some blog somewhere kept saying he smoked hella trees. But so does everybody I s’pose.
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True , but i have a job already .
April 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
330.HairyBush Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 8:22 am
I watched the Oak@Hou game last nite. (game after Al passed) I was alittle choked up at the end. Even though I like Hue I have to admit it was cold blooded to cut Bruce davis right after he blocked that punt.
DHB,Huff, And Jano (all Al 1st rounders) were the reason they prevailed.
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Yeah. How’d u like how threw that prayer down the field at the end when we were trying to close it out? I believe Gio was on the coverage. Ridiculous. Even games we won it was nip and tuck at the end when it shouldn’t have been.
One thing that bugged me offensively was how Palmer was never able to get us that “seal the deal” third down conversion at the end of games.
-Houston
-Detroit (the infamous 3rd and 3 to Schilens that would have ended it)
-Chicago
Yes, the D SHOULD HAVE held anyway but Palmer and the offense SHOULD have converted also.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Campbell was the QB for the Houston game.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Speaking about people like Jenkins, its amazing how talented peeps out there can’t help themselves with weed, stupid tweets and video games.
This dude I know has gotten like multiple job/intern offers and simply rejects them, says he’s waiting for something better but has been on the unemployment check for about a year.
Dude just plays xbox all day and goes out for fast-food at night. Lays about the coach when not doing the above
April 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
OAK FB Marcel Reece, similarly, has not begun offseason work with team sitting on his exclusive-rights tender, and Raiders S Tyvon Branch…
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Branch has been out of the start of offseason work not signing his franchise tag
April 13th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
524.raidertalk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
512.Just Win Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:49 am
We need to keep lbs in pass coverage a lot against Manning and his quick release to his slot reciever which means we need DL that can bring a strong pass rush on most downs. Tommy Kelley isn’t going anywhere this year and I would expect that any glimpse of a 3-4 will be soon forgotten. Matt Shaughnessy is going to have a monster year if he’s healthy and Tommy Kelley is going to the pro bowl.
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Horrible how there was absolutely NO PRESSURE from the front 4 on the last drives of SD and Detroit…
Seymour, and the rest, looked like they were just standing up pretending to try and apply some pressure…it looked like they were playing “patty cake” with the opposing o-linemen.
That crap has gotta stop.
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Agreed. 100%
I actually think bringing in tollefson and rotating these guys will REALLY help the older Kelly and Syemore be productive late into the games
That idea was above the head of Huebris and Bres
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I’m totally serious when I say this; with the protection that Rivers and Stafford were getting at the end of those games Jamarcus Russell could have dissected the Raider D. As weird as that may sound I believe it to be true.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
538.YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
OAK FB Marcel Reece, similarly, has not begun offseason work with team sitting on his exclusive-rights tender, and Raiders S Tyvon Branch…
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Branch has been out of the start of offseason work not signing his franchise tag
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Should this concern us?
April 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
536.YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Campbell was the QB for the Houston game.
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That’s right. Woops. My bad.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Branch is probably just waiting on negotiations for his long-term deal.
The Raiders probably won’t be negotiating with Reece until they have a deal done with Branch. Maybe not even until after they have their draft picks signed.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
this one better?
http://deadspin.com/alison-melder/
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How do these guys get these hotties?
Belichik is notorious for boinking hot chicks too.
Must be the $$$ they make.
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it’s the $ they spend. I work in orange county, the epicenter of prostitution, I mean gold digging, and just got off phone with hot young client of mine who has nothing but hot young friends that “hook up” with her 50 something year old boss who she tells me is not attractive at all but they do so for the bills he pays of theirs and she gets her bills paid for pimpin them out
April 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_18dYSC9Kqw&feature=youtube_gdata_player hardy pro day
April 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Inoneword’s boss seems like a standup dude and a quality employer.
April 13th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Wait…..your “client” pimps out girls to your “boss”.
Who do you work for, bang bros?
April 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Wait…..your “client” pimps out girls to your “boss”.
Who do you work for, bang bros?
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LMFAO !!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
the more i think about it , the more i think i need to move to Orange county !!!
April 13th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Anyways, will be leaving here in 10 minutes to start my weeknd early! Have a great weekend if I don’t jump on here over the weekend
ONE NATION!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Reece & Branch need to get to work!
However, more reps for Tonga & Mitchell can only be seen as a good thing imo
April 13th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
@ HGDaddy
need your pick at #95 for OAK bro
please & thank you
April 13th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Rockstar.
Kudos to you for the commitment in putting that whole thing together.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
David Ausberry, Brandon Myers and Richard Gordon.
now the Raiders add Andre Hardy!
I wonder if Mel Kiper Jr. still thinks we’re drafting a Te at #95 ??
April 13th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Thanks DJG!
still a work in progress
2 weeks until the draft …
still need the pick of 5-10 semi pros in addition to a handful of other random guys, trolls or newbies
April 13th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Mel Kiper is A Flucking Idiot!!!!!! Fluck him and that bastard Donkey Tom Jackson!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I’m not so sure about the sean spence pick fellas. many believe he compares a lot to Geno Hayes who is currently a UFA or got cut. Why not pick him up and save the pick for another position/player. why? because as we all know, the raiders cherish size, speed, strength and now also smarts and football knowledge
. spence is 5′11.
so since RM hasn’t given Hayes a look(at least not that we know off) i would rule out spence. just process of elimination in my book, but you never know. also keep in mind the combine when the raiders looked at a lot of OLB was before we signed wheeler and Tollefson. just saying.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Talking with Todd McShay
Can the Raiders get any impact players with a small draft class?
The Raiders currently have just their fifth- and sixth-round picks. They will get some compensatory picks next month, but No. 97 (near the end of the third round) will be the highest possible comp pick. McShay said the draft is fairly strong in the middle rounds and the Raiders will get a chance to add a decent player or two. He is unsure if Oakland can get an immediate impact player, but thinks there are some good cornerbacks (the position is Oakland’s biggest need) in the middle of the draft. Among the cornerbacks who could be available in the middle rounds are South Carolina’s Stephon Gilmore, Virginia Tech’s Jayron Hosley, West Virginia’s Keith Tandy and Maryland’s Cameron Chism – By Bill Williamson (02/26/12)
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thoughts ??
April 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
#552
cosign, thanks RR, definetely keeps the discussion going.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
JFB, Todd McShay & Jon Becker all think the Raiders should be going after a CB with pick #95
good idea or bad idea?
on the current roster:
Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa, McCann, Lee & Lambert
April 13th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Raiders showed interest in Sean Spence at the SR bowl.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
JFB, Todd McShay & Jon Becker all think the Raiders should be going after a CB with pick #95
good idea or bad idea?
on the current roster:
Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa, McCann, Lee & Lambert
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If we’re going to be running a 3-4 even part-time, then we need a NT and more LBs. CB is a distant third at best.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
#95 will be a bad mo fo olb or nt , common sence fellas.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
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i think bad idea, we need safeties see my pick @ 95, DL, OL, ILB since Mcclain could be facing a possible supension, i think OLB is a position which could easily be filled with depth(already have our starter) after the draft. need a bruiser @RB, but low priority. and i think we should pick up Vollek as QB. thats it in a nuttshell for imo. you?
April 13th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@RaiderRockstar u missed Brandon Underwood
April 13th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
but thinks there are some good cornerbacks (the position is Oakland’s biggest need) in the middle of the draft.
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Co-sign.
Our current turd-sandwich of DB’s is easily one of the worst in the league.
We are trying to stopgap a major hole with vet’s who aren’t considered starters or guys who have never played? I can see maybe 1 or 2 of those guys emerging, but like 3 or 4 of them? Not including injuries?
I think we should draft no less than 2 DB’s.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
The #95 pick, like the rest, will be best player available. Pretty deep CB class, so there’s a good chance it will be a CB.
This draft is deepest at DT, CB, and LB, so my guess is the #95 pick will be one of those. But you never know.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
South Carolina’s Stephon Gilmore, Virginia Tech’s Jayron Hosley, West Virginia’s Keith Tandy and Maryland’s Cameron Chism
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Don’t know much about these guys, other than Chism is considered an athlete and not much of a football player (gee have we heard that before regarding Maryland players??).
April 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
We are trying to stopgap a major hole with vet’s who aren’t considered starters or guys who have never played?
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Before his neck injury, Bartell was considered an above-average starter. That leaves just ONE CB spot to fill with someone unproven. We’ll be fine.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
u missed Brandon Underwood
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sorry, boi
I thought he was a safety?
April 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Before his neck injury, Bartell was considered an above-average starter. That leaves just ONE CB spot to fill with someone unproven. We’ll be fine.
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First off, nickle corner is considered a starter, our new coach said as much. So we need 3.
OK, cool, we got one spot sewed up to the dude with chipped vertebrea in his neck. That doesn’t sound serious, I’m sure that won’t cause him to miss any time.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Hardy looks like he has really good hands in the video.
He looks better than DHB.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
OK, cool, we got one spot sewed up to the dude with chipped vertebra in his neck. That doesn’t sound serious, I’m sure that won’t cause him to miss any time.
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If it’s healed then no, it shouldn’t cause him to miss any time. Injuries DO heal.
April 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
In 2010, Bartell played in 15 games, but only started 12.
What happened those other three games? Was he benched? He played, but didn’t start. He wasn’t even a starter on a lowly Rams team, 7 years into his career?
Not counting on this guy to do much more than what CJ37 did here, which is play decent ball, sandwiched between injuries and not so great ball.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I think DVD and chekwa will blossom this yr. My cuz is a gb packer fan and says Lee is solid back up so I think we are fine at cb and will hopefully get a sleeper cb in rnd 5.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I don’t think this is a strong class for LBs. How many LBs ( not tweeners) will get drafted in the 1st round? Why are undersized LBs being considered in the 2nd and 3rd round, if this is a strong LB class?
It’s a weak LB class.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
we already have 2 sophmore cb’s on the team, why add nother rook? camp will produce 2 solid starters, look who they have to go up against? cp3 and our wr’s. will be ok @ cb fellas.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
In 2010, Bartell played in 15 games, but only started 12.
What happened those other three games? Was he benched? He played, but didn’t start. He wasn’t even a starter on a lowly Rams team, 7 years into his career?
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I have no idea. Maybe he had a nagging injury or something that caused him to come off the bench. Frankly, I don’t feel like Google-searching Rams reports from two seasons ago to determine why he didn’t start three games for a 10-win team.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
I think between DVD and Chekwa, we will get one nickle corner out of those two. Maybe some spot starts.
I think Chekwa has a chance to earn a starting spot. DVD is on the outside looking in.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
i always go under the precedent that it can’t be any worse than last year on defense. been saying that for almost a decade now lol. but gotta real good feeling this time around, for sure. this team will be good.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
we already have 2 sophmore cb’s on the team, why add nother rook?
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Because on any given Sunday you need at least 3 solid cover guys, and with the NFL and injuries, on the whole season, you need like 6.
Last year we had CJ37, Chekwa, DVD all miss time due to injuries. We ended up with Lito Sheppard (a guy out of the league before us, and now out of the league after us)covering guys with our season on the line for crying out loud.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I don’t think this is a strong class for LBs. How many LBs ( not tweeners) will get drafted in the 1st round? Why are undersized LBs being considered in the 2nd and 3rd round, if this is a strong LB class?
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Because the LB position simply isn’t valued very highly. Look at what happened with the LB market in free agency.
Plenty of LBs in this draft class will become starters.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Hehe. Super Mario is a Suck D1ckego Super Charger.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Every since I started blogging on here, I have got every 1st pick of our draft right (DHB, McClain, Wiz) and had D-Moore as our 4th round pick in my mocks, months before last years draft.
I feel pretty confident on our draft stuff/needs. We will be taking a corner early, mark my words.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Undersized LBs are more common these days because defenses are using more nickel packages. You need LBs who are athletic and can cover, not just big two-down thumpers (who still have a role, but can be found in the late rounds).
You can find starter-caliber LBs almost anywhere in the draft. Jamar Cheney, Colin McCarthy, Mason Foster, Wesley Woodyard, etc..
April 13th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
CB Coryell Judie (Texas A&M) is a good value pick, if he is available in the 5th round.
He is 6′ 195, runs a sub 4.45 40 and 1.5 sec 10 yard split. He didn’t play a lot last season due to injury.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Mike562, where abouts you at?
April 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
#586
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April 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Tulsa,ok
April 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
MOST Small LBs are not a good fit for for all schemes. Better for for WLB in 4-3 or Tampa 2. Btw, small LBs do get drafted, but it has to be a weak class for them to get drafted this high.
Woodyard was undrafted, and Jamar Chaney was a 7th round pick.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
I had 4 players drafted from my mock draft that year.
McClain, Houston, Ford, and Campbell. I should start charging you woolen for my Mock Drafts.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
You People*
April 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
raiderboi18 you from oklahoma?
April 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
583.Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Every since I started blogging on here, I have got every 1st pick of our draft right (DHB, McClain, Wiz) and had D-Moore as our 4th round pick in my mocks, months before last years draft.
I feel pretty confident on our draft stuff/needs. We will be taking a corner early, mark my words.
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I almost agree with you. I say S is the bigger issue for the same depth reasons you outlined. Huff or Branch go down, we’re screwed. Plus Huff and Branch can play nickle and dime corner. I like a S in the draft who can step in play now.
I recognize that pass rushing DE/LB is also a HUGE hole on the squad.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Well when you have 18 different verisons of a mock draft it is a little easier to nail a few!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
we already have 2 sophmore cb’s on the team, why add nother rook?
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Because on any given Sunday you need at least 3 solid cover guys, and with the NFL and injuries, on the whole season, you need like 6.
Last year we had CJ37, Chekwa, DVD all miss time due to injuries. We ended up with Lito Sheppard (a guy out of the league before us, and now out of the league after us)covering guys with our season on the line for crying out loud.
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And we now get Peyton Manning at least twice a year. CB would be a nice guess for our lst pick.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
O Mock Draft 5.5:
3- LB Sean Spence
4- DE Jonathan Massaquoi
5- CB Coryell Judie
5- OLB Miles Burris
6- OT Joe Long Jake Long’s younger brother. He started 45 games for Wayne state.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
MOST Small LBs are not a good fit for for all schemes. Better for for WLB in 4-3 or Tampa 2. Btw, small LBs do get drafted, but it has to be a weak class for them to get drafted this high.
Woodyard was undrafted, and Jamar Chaney was a 7th round pick.
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Right. You can find STARTING LBs in the late rounds.
This year in particular, there are a lot of LBs that will be available in the middle and late rounds who can find roles early.
From the fourth round on?
Demario Davis, Miles Buris, Tank Carder, Emmanuel Acho, Keenan Robinson, Audie Cole, James-Michael Johnson, Nigel Bradham, Josh Kaddu, Travis Lewis, Danny Trevathan, Terrell Manning, Tahir Whitehead, Kyle Wilber – all these guys are draftable, and several of them will find roles early.
The fact that undersized guys like David, Spence, and Kendricks are 2nd round prospects is just a coincidence. Those three “undersized” linebackers have incredible football instincts, and a skill set that most defensive coaches can use to great effect – whether it’s as a 3-4 ILB or 4-3 OLB or MLB.
Even Pat Willis is “light” for his height. Lawrence Timmons is undersized. Beason is undersized. Thomas Davis is, too. So is Vilma. It’s not uncommon to have lighter, more athletic LBs – no matter what the scheme is.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I was talking about my final Mock. That will be released 24-72 hours before the draft.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
I recognize that pass rushing DE/LB is also a HUGE hole on the squad.
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Co-sign.
#1 offseason need, find competant NFL coach (check)
#2 offseason need, find people (many of them) who can cover (still work in progress, but efforts have been made)
#3 offseason need, find speed edge rusher (draft)
April 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Yes sir mike562,
April 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
594
lmao
598
so whats the point of the last 50 you shared? lol, jk.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I was talking about my final Mock. That will be released 24-72 hours before the draft.
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LOL……do you have to sign up and become a member to get the final version?
April 13th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Vilma, Beason, Timmons, and Willis are 6′+.
Kendricks, Spence, and the kid from KY are 5′11. Spence added writhe to get drafted. His playing weight was around 220. He added 10 pounds to improve his draft status.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
raiderboi18
cool, raider nation never seems to amaze me.truly a world wide brand.
got any scoop on markelle martin, fs oklahoma state?
April 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
LOL Vegas. That’s a great idea.
Btw, almost all mock drafts change a few times before the draft.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I watched him a few times on tv, seems like a good athlete, heavy hitter. Seems to have a knack for digesting plays. I’d take him.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
The difference between 6′0 and 5′11 is literally an inch, so I don’t think that means Beason is not small and Spence is. Vilma and Timmons are all “small” weight-wise – and they’re 6′1, only two inches taller than Spence and Kendricks, who weigh the same as them.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Broncos cut CB Andre Goodman, team announces
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Dennis Allen got the most out of this guy. Started pretty much the entire season in 2011. Wonder if the Raiders will look at him.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
LMAO Mike. I like to entertain you people and myself (I enjoy the research and analysts), and some of the Semis here (Vegas) think I’m useless without the Mock drafts.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
JFB,
Do you agree with the S issue?
Initially I said that we would draft a DB at 95. Said that guy would probably be from a small school. Actualy hoped it would be a guy from a small school because that would mean he has first round talent but dropped because of competition or something.
YA threw a couple of solid prospects out there. Could you list them again, if you have them handy? The guy from Alabama, Tennessee, and I forgot the last one.
Also, have you found any DB prospects from any small schools that might be available for a steal at 95?
Scouting Dept is on top of their game big time!
April 13th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
YA,
Tell that to the NFL and scouts. Same goes for QBs, but I didn’t make the rules.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
YA,
The difference between 6′1 (Vick and Brees) and 5′11 is also 2″, but how many 5′11 QBs get drafted to play QB?
April 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
606.
thx
fact that we are terribly thin at fs and he maybe available only due to injury, he grew on me @95. could be great value. him and branch with bartell, chekwa, spencer and wheeler, romac, curry at lb…oh boy.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
NFL scouts still think very highly of David, Kendricks, and Spence. That’s why they’ll all be taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
The reason that non-pass rushing LBs aren’t taken higher in the draft is because you can usually find them late in the draft, too.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
CB Andre Goodman is instantly the best CB on the market and has ties to Dennis Allen
go get’em Reggie
wont cost much 2 weeks before the draft!
April 13th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
This is my big board for the #95 pick:
3rd – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama; OLB Ronnell Lewis, Oklahoma; OLB/ILB Sean Spence, Miami; CB Leonard Johnson, Iowa State; DE Tyrone Crawford, Boise State; OLB/DE Bruce Irvin, West Virginia; ILB James Michael-Johnson, Nevada
April 13th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
NFL scouts still think very highly of David, Kendricks, and Spence. That’s why they’ll all be taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
$$$$$$$$$$&
Or, it’s just a weak LB class.
lol
April 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
no prob RaiderO just messin with ya. its unkown territory for all of us right now without AD at the draft helm, so i get it.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
I have to admit, I did less work when Al was alive. All I had to do was look at 40 times.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Btw, almost all mock drafts change a few times before the draft.
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Absolutely, mine as well.
As of now, this is what I got:
3rd- Casey Hayward, DB (Vandy)
Nobody else seems on board, but I love him if he is available. May have to schlepp off a future pick or player to have up a dozen or so spots to get him. If not, go with Chapman, but I think cover guys are a bigger need on this defense.
4th- Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB (Troy)
Never watched him play, but good measurables, and Troy seems to produce these OLB/DE hybrid types, and we desperately need an edge speed rusher. He shows up on a lot of the Blogs scouting department brainstorms.
5th- Kheeston Randall, DT/DE (Texas)
Guy who never quite lived up to his talents, but can rush the passer, and be versatile in our new 3-4/4-3 hybrid-type defense. Very good Senior Bowl.
5th- Nate Potter, OT (Boise State)
Probably played better than where he will be drafted, but didn’t measure out as big as would have liked. Insurance at LT, and ZBS type lineman.
6th- Tashuan Gipson, DB (Wyoming)
Decent size and can tackle, play special teams, and compete for the 12th starter on defense, the nickle corner.
Undrafted FA’s: Travis Benjamin, Bradie Ewing, Joe Suhey, Kellen Moore
April 13th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
NFL scouts still think very highly of David, Kendricks, and Spence. That’s why they’ll all be taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
$$$$$$$$$$&
Or, it’s just a weak LB class.
lol
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No, it isn’t. Aside from the draftable players I listed above? Luke Kuechly, Donta Hightower, Zach Brown, Bobby Wagner, and Ronnell Lewis will be taken in the 1st and 2nd rounds.
If you need a potential starter at ILB or OLB this year, there are plenty of options.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Another draftable ILB = Najee Goode, West Virginia.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
JFB,
Do you agree with the S issue?
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I agree that a draft pick could be used here, I still think Chekwa could eventually slide to getting some safety reps, and I also agree with you that we are incredibly thin at Safety right now.
At least we have two NFL level starters at Safety in Branch and Huffy. Can’t say that about DB, IMO.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
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April 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Who do you want the Raiders to draft at #95 ???
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April 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
5 LBs in the 1st two rounds and 2 of them are undersized = Strong LB class?
I don’t think so.
April 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Thx RR.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Jordan Bernstine reminds me a little of Joe Lefeged. Would be a solid UDFA pickup to add competition at SS. I’m not convinced Mike Mitchell makes it out of camp.
DeQuan Menzie and Robert Blanton would be developmental options at FS.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Correction.
One undersized player.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Good Mock Vegas. I like Casey Hayward a lot.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
If you want an undersized ILB with a great motor, you can look at New Mexico’s own Carmen Messina!!!
Although his stats can be skewed a little (152 tackles, really??) being that New Mexico would typically lose games by around 63-7, so there were a lot of garbage time tackles to be had.
If he is playing at UNM, chances are he is not very physically talented, lol. But hey, undrafted FA, the guy can be every bit of Goethel.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
5 LBs in the 1st two rounds and 2 of them are undersized = Strong LB class?
I don’t think so.
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Didn’t say strong. I said deep.
ILB/OLB isn’t a highly-valued position, so if only one got picked in the first round, it wouldn’t be out of the ordinary. That’s pretty consistent with the last few drafts.
But again, if a team is looking for a potential starter at ILB or OLB, there are PLENTY of options between rounds 2 and 5.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
LOL at some of the names on the not yet voted list.
Masha Puddonga?? Really?
Lounge Lizard Larry?
April 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I remember saying it was a weak LB class a few days back, and you disagreed saying it was a strong class, but I could be wrong. I also said C Casserly agreed with my statement.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Lefty and PurpleDrank81 (two high-quality semi’s) have Tank Carder as their pick.
Two-time Mountain West defensive POY, so I have watched him plenty of times. Very fast off the edge, and TCU’s defense is alwasy very well coached. He kind of worries me though, that he wasn’t even as good as Jerry Hughes (same type of player and position at TCU), and Hughes has been a major bust in the NFL so far.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
LBs who will be available between rounds 2 and 6:
Donta Hightower
Zach Brown
Bobby Wagner
Ronnell Lewis
Miles Buris
Demario Davis
Tank Carder
Emmanuel Acho
Keenan Robinson
Audie Cole
James-Michael Johnson
Nigel Bradham
Josh Kaddu
Travis Lewis
Danny Trevathan
Terrell Manning
16 players who have the potential to be starters at 3-4 ILB or 4-3 MLB/OLB Most of whom will be available in the mid/late rounds.
Again, if a team is looking to add competition to those positions, they’ll have plenty of options in this draft.
That’s a pretty deep
April 13th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
When you play at TCU, you get to kick in the head of UNLV and New Mexico twice a year, and you can probably make a pretty solid youtube cutup just from playing those two each year.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
class if you ask me.*
April 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Btw, I do agree with you. It’s a deep LBs class. We can draft a solid player in rounds 3-6. Spence, KY kid, Burris, Law, etc..
April 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Well, I guess those days are over for TCU’s players, as they are in the Big East or something crazy now.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I think Carder will be around in the late 4th/early 5th. Could be a good value pick there.
Biggest problem with Hughes is that he was a DE/OLB hybrid who was trying to find a role on a Tampa-2 defense.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I really like James-Michael Johnson from Nevada. Will be a good pro. Look for him to come off the board between the late 3rd and late 4th.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I don’t see what the big deal is about a player smoking pot…. especially if that player is doing the damn thang and handling business in an eye opening manner.. that corner back from Miami is something special considering the WRs he shut down that are currently in the NFL (I Forget which ones but they were top 15 picks)
April 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Reading about Carmen Messina, and he lead the NCAA in tackles last year with a 162.
Man that is a lot of meaningless tackles for an 1-10 team.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
454 career collegiate tackles, #10 in collegiate history.
Who would have known that when I was watching the Lobo’s lose 43-17 to Wyoming, that I was watching collegiate tackling history!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Danny Trevathan reminds me of Wesley Woodyard, but a little more polished. 5th-6th round value.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I would trade a future pick for Z Brown.
Hightower is projected as a 1st round pick.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Trevathan! That’s his name.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Raiders will have a 2nd round pick in 2013!
April 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Woodyard was a S at KY.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I read earlier that Arkansas had nice bunch of Wideouts that are nfl caliber players so going to watch this film on DB Casey Hayward vs. Arkansas….. this guy might be my 3rd round selection RaiderRockStar
April 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
We don’t have a 2nd in 2013. It was part of the Palmer trade.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Zach Brown will find a role for sure. Now that we seem to be in the “era of the tight end”, teams will need LBs who can cover. Zach Brown will need to spend more time in the film room, as he does have trouble diagnosing plays at times, but he has all the tools necessary to be a very solid pro. Scary fast for a player his size.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Arkansas has some NFL level WR’s.
Maybe not any first rounder, but like 3 mid to late rounders.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Spence only did 12 rep on bench at combine. Worst of any linbacker.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
537.raidertalk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Speaking about people like Jenkins, its amazing how talented peeps out there can’t help themselves with weed, stupid tweets and video games.
This dude I know has gotten like multiple job/intern offers and simply rejects them, says he’s waiting for something better but has been on the unemployment check for about a year.
Dude just plays xbox all day and goes out for fast-food at night. Lays about the coach when not doing the above
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I think these are what are known as
“Millenials”
Haha. But, Millenials are Americans too I guess. Unless that cat has a trust fund as a cushion, good luck with that.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
hellsbells Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Spence only did 12 rep on bench at combine. Worst of any linbacker.
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Wasn’t healthy. Bone bruise in his upper arm.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
If all the top players are drafted, save one position; would Reggie actually draft an RB at #95 if say James Polk available?
April 13th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
James Polk the president?
April 13th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
O, Raiders will have the 2nd round pick in 2013!
April 13th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Personally, I’m not a huge Chris Polk fan. He’s not “lead back” material in my honest opinion. Doesn’t has a huge repertoire of moves, runs a little upright and doesn’t do much after contact. At least from the Washington games I’ve watched.
Regardless, rotational big-bodied RBs can be found later in the draft.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
What about Brandon Taylor FS LSU. Dude sounds good and seems to be unreated. 3/4 round prospect.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Same with VT RB David Wilson. Don’t see anything special there.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Since you all are talking future picks, the Raiders need to save their future first rounders for Jadaveon Clowney. The youngster is still immature by all accounts, but he is a baller.
He will be a football household name…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IbdgDBwrjQ
April 13th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
The Oracle Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Since you all are talking future picks, the Raiders need to save their future first rounders for Jadaveon Clowney. The youngster is still immature by all accounts, but he is a baller.
He will be a football household name…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IbdgDBwrjQ
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On this note, I REALLY like Aaron Lynch. Kid is going to be an incredible pro. Shame he’s transferring from Notre Dame.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Young American, thanks for catching the Washington/Oregon RB combo, Presidential concept.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
hellsbells Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
What about Brandon Taylor FS LSU. Dude sounds good and seems to be unreated. 3/4 round prospect.
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I’ve heard good things… but it’s hard to rate these LSU DBs. Playmakers all over the field on that defense.
Reggie McKenzie was apparently talking to Alabama’s DeQuan Menzie at the Senior Bowl. CB who may be a better FS prospect. But that kind of versatility would definitely help the Raider defense.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
O, Raiders will have the 2nd round pick in 2013!
$$$$$$$$$$$
We traded our 1st this year and 2nd next year (and a possible 1st if we make the AFC title game).
April 13th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
For Palmer!
April 13th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
ThiThis would be a great year to draft a college player from one of the U.S. military colleges, USAF, ARMY, NAVY; since our selections are all mid to late founders anyway, we are short on picks. It would definitely make the Raiders stronger in the future!,
April 13th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
649
nice 1 raiderretribution, know what you mean,
won’t have a first right?
April 13th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
O,
I think it is either/or next year.
Either we go to the Championship game and it is a 1st, or otherwise they get a 2nd. Not potentially both.
I think the guy claiming we were going to have a 2nd next year, was cleverly predicting a championship game run for our boys.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Clowney is going to be a top 10, maybe top 4 pick when he comes out.
I sure hope he isn’t on our draft radar in two years, but he is definitely a beast.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
When the Raiders reach the AFC Championship game, we lose our 1st and keep our 2nd round draft pick in 2013.
It’s one or the other, not both in 2013.
The key is the Raiders will win in 2013!
April 13th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Vegas,
I understood his intention, but I can’t find anything that supports his claim (either/ or). I think it’s a 1st and a 2nd, and if we make the AFC title game, we will have to give them an another 1st.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Can you please post a link or source. I’m sure you are not making it up, but I like to make sure. That’s good news.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Thank you Mike & Just Fire Baby. Raider O just proved the falacy of evolution theories, us monkies are smarter than he is.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
First this year, and a first or second next year depending on how far we go in the playoffs.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
No need. I found an ESPN article that supports your claim. Thank you.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
I really hope the Raiders end up having to give the Bengals their 1st round pick in 2013.
That said, the thought of a player like Robert Woods, David Amerson, or Sam Montgomery joining the Raiders… can’t complain about that if the Raiders fall short of the AFC Championship.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
The more I read about the NT from Baylor the more I LIKE. Want him with our fourth if he is still there. No on could handle him at the senior bowl.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
LMAO!!!
You are a smart Monkey.
April 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
I think it’s a 1st and a 2nd, and if we make the AFC title game, we will have to give them an another 1st.
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Nope.
1st this year.
1st or 2nd next year depending on if we make the AFC Championship.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Raider O, how come you believe everything the government tells you without asking for a “link or a source”?
April 13th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
SI’s got their draft ratings up.
They do not like Jean-Baptiste AT ALL.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/70548.html
April 13th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
I’m glad to see you posting again Twocents. I thought I scared away the other day.
Who told you that I listen to the GOV, and who told you that I don’t ask questions and require facts and proof.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Raider O, you drove me to drink. I just woke up.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Try weed next time.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Bobbie Massie woulda made a good Raiderat RT…dammit.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Reggie McKenzie:
Q: You’ve said you’re in a best-player-available situation at No. 95. What positions do you see as a need that you can address in the draft?.
“You know what? When I talk to the coaching staff about (it), we need depth.
We feel like we’ve got players that we can line up at a lot of spots. And we’ve got some good players. But when you talk about a guy goes down, who do we have? A guy goes down here… we need depth at a few spots. Quite a few spots.
And some of these guys, it’s going to play out with the competition that we already have. The coaches are going to have to get to know some of these guys who are already on the roster.
But we need some depth, regardless. To compete and hopefully win jobs. And that’s what we’re targeting.
When we say best player, whether it’s D-line, linebacker, O-line, tight end… I mean, it doesn’t matter. We want to get a good player. We’ve got five picks, we need to make ‘em all count.”
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Reading what Reggie had to say, I’d like to grab LB Emmanuel Acho from Texas in the 4th round.
He’s not getting love from the pundits and media who seem to focus mostly on OLB’s that can rush the passer and project as 3-4 rush guys, it’s the glamour position nowadays.
But you also need do-it-all kind of players who can give you solid all-around play without excelling at one single thing.
Emmanuel Acho at 6′2 238 is athletic, with good size, smarts, bloodlines, intangibles and comes from a major program so he has faced tough competition, I think he’s really underrated.
I’ve seen him projected anywhere, as high as 2nd and as low as 6th, mostly 3rd-4th.
But I see a guy that can come in and at least provide depth at every LB spot while pushing the starters for their jobs and eventually taking over one of them.
Not bad for a 3rd-4th round pick.
Some stuff on Acho:
From cbs.com and the national football post:
“Isn’t a dynamic straight-line athlete, but plays faster because of instincts.
Is a good tackler, can shed blocks and plays stronger than his frame would indicate.
Has the versatility to play a number of spots in a 4-3 scheme or get some looks inside in a 34. Looks like a potential starter in the NFL either way.”
“Acho has the same strong character and production his brother [Sam, a 2011 fourth-round pick] did coming into last year’s draft process, but Sam fell a bit in the draft because scouts weren’t sure if his best NFL fit was as a 4-3 end or 3-4 linebacker.
There’s no question with Emmanuel, whose athleticism and versatility should make him a top 100 pick for 4-3 teams as a chase second-level defender.”
Todd McShay, espn.com: “A lot of the things I like about Sam I like about Emmanuel. I think that Sam is a little more athletic, but with Emmanuel, you see the instincts, you see the preparation he has for games, the versatility. I looked at my scouting report and it’s consistent in every single facet of the game. He’s a smart, dedicated football player.”
April 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Raider O, if our rulers would end the war on drugs, I would grow the most fantastic weed in the world and give it away.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
If Reggie were to grab Goodman (CB) and Ryan Grant (RB) that would take care of two needs coming into this years draft for a fraction of the price!
April 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
The Oracle Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
537.raidertalk Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Speaking about people like Jenkins, its amazing how talented peeps out there can’t help themselves with weed, stupid tweets and video games.
This dude I know has gotten like multiple job/intern offers and simply rejects them, says he’s waiting for something better but has been on the unemployment check for about a year.
Dude just plays xbox all day and goes out for fast-food at night. Lays about the coach when not doing the above
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I think these are what are known as
“Millenials”
Haha. But, Millenials are Americans too I guess. Unless that cat has a trust fund as a cushion, good luck with that.
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Nah just leaching off his fam. But he’ll make it to coachella somehow.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
1- you can grow weed in CA if you have a card.
2- Give it away? Are you a hippie? No profits?
April 13th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Raiders FB Reece missing team workouts
Raiders fullback Marcel Reece is not participating in the start of the team’s offseason program, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
Reece, a key cog in the team and a Pro Bowl alternate, is sitting on an exclusive-rights tender worth $545,000. Many would say he has out-performed that level of compensation.
He has yet to sign and report for offseason work. Oakland’s run game is in flux, with Michael Bush lost to free agency and Darren McFadden coming off an injury-marred 2011.
Reece led all fullbacks in receiving yards last season with 301. He also had two touchdowns on 27 receptions, and, in a very limited role, rushed 17 times for 112 yards.
Raiders safety Tyvon Branch also has yet to sign his franchise tender.
Follow Jason La Canfora on Twitter @JasonLaCanfora.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
I agree with you. We are spending too much on the war on drugs, and we can use this money on other things like free health and addiction recovery centers like Europe.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
3rd (compensatory) – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
4th (compensatory) – OLB Sammy Brown, Houston
5th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
5th (compensatory) – DB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
6th – DE/OLB Frank Alexander, Oklahoma
April 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Anybody with a backyard can grow good weed. The profit would be small. That’s the beauty of a free market.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Its funny, another friend is trying to hire peeps and says that people come into the job interview and say “i want this job but i really want to do something else.” I was like what!?
Geez, I’ve never told anybody that on an interview–even if it were true.
Its just the ‘millenials’ I guess. Maybe people just want you to treat them like rock-stars, when they haven’t done chit.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Should we trade for Osi Umenyiora?
April 13th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Leinert, Volek, Rosenfels, Delhomme…these are some of the names of vet QB’s available. As we know, we are looking for one.
If it came down to it, looks like Vince Young is made more attractive because of that list. Doubt RM wants a mindset like VY on the team, but faced with the options who knows.
Pickings are slim. Lets see what camp cuts bring.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
I don’t smoke but I support medicinal. Right now is proably the golden age for pot. It’s at its lowest level of regulation.And Right before the big capitalist pick it up and turn it Malboro
April 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Should we trade for Osi Umenyiora?
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Trade what?
April 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Try weed next time.
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Purp cures All!
April 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Thec
TK or draft picks.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Raccoon,
Smoking GDP!
April 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Raidertalk, free men and free markets advance civilization. Socialist and central planning impoverish people.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
We can trade our 5th and 6th this year, but we can’t trade comp picks.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Twocents,
How old are, and have you been to Europe (Germany, France, Spain, Italia, etc…)?
April 13th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Socialism is not the enemy, but I prefer capitalism.
April 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Italya*
April 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
To all my tweeps, it’s official! I have accepted the Team Chaplain position with the Oakland Raiders. Wow, so excited!#Raider4Life
April 13th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Should we trade for Osi Umenyiora?
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Would fill a huge hole if he’s still got that burst. Wasn’t he coming off the bench for the Giants?
Why on earth would you trade Tommy Kelly? Why don’t you wait and see what the new DC asks him to do and then see how he performs? Seymour will be gone shortly, so I think we’ll need to keep Kelly around as the wiley ole vet.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
712.YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
To all my tweeps, it’s official! I have accepted the Team Chaplain position with the Oakland Raiders. Wow, so excited!#Raider4Life
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That’s great news man.
Good for him!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Raider O, old enough to have seen the fate of the Soviet Union.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
amen, jhill…tk is a staple on this d…dude is nothing but energy, got the crowd rockin at o co against dirty sanchez and the jets, i wouldn’t trade him…if anything trade huff
April 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Why do teams need Chaplains?
April 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Kelly, Seymour, and Houston are 3 BIG cats to have on our starting DL. Move them around to different spots along the line and fill in ShoNasty and the LBs accordingly.
Chess players calling the D this year fellas!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Mikep,
Seems like some of our fans want to get rid of guys just because they are not the best guy in the NFL at their particular position. Simply being a good player doesn’t cut it.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Why do teams need Chaplains?
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Why not?
I’m not religious in the least, but plenty of athletes are.
Chaplain would provide counseling, “spiritual guidance”, would lead prayer groups before and after games, etc..
Anything to help these guys get closer on the team, and be more emotionally, mentally, “spiritually” stable is worth it for me. Especially if it’s a former player helping them do so. I’m sure he has some valuable insight for the young guys on the team.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Thec
TK or draft picks.
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RM likes his picks so we can rule that out…
April 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
We need a nickle DE. Usi would be a limited snap guy. Tommy Kelly is a 3 down player.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Chess players calling the D this year fellas!
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checkers = bresh
April 13th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
mikep562 Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
amen, jhill…tk is a staple on this d…dude is nothing but energy, got the crowd rockin at o co against dirty sanchez and the jets, i wouldn’t trade him…if anything trade huff
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So… keep a guy at a position where there’s plenty of depth… trade a guy at a position where there’s no depth. Got it.
I’m OK with Kelly staying a Raider, but if the team needs to add pieces he’s the first guy they should approach to restructure his contract. More importantly, they need to rotate him out more frequently. He’s solid when he’s fresh, but too many times late in games I see him losing 1-on-1 matchups.
If the Raiders can add a true 1-tech or 0-tech tackle, it would let Kelly get more rest and allow him to focus on what he does best.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
If Chapman is there at #95, then he is my #1 choice for the Raiders to draft.
I also wouild love to see Corderro Law be converted to a stand OLB pass rusher/edge player who can stuff the run at the end of the 3rd. I like Mossaquio and Bradham as well.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Spence slip to the 4th round due to his size.
I wish Shea McClellin would fall to us at #95, he would be a great fit IMO. Too bad he will be gone in Round 2.
I would like to see Ronnell Lewis fall to #95 as well.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
714.J Hill Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
712.YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
To all my tweeps, it’s official! I have accepted the Team Chaplain position with the Oakland Raiders. Wow, so excited!#Raider4Life
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That’s great news man.
Good for him!
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Excellence at the core of life even!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
723.Thec Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Chess players calling the D this year fellas!
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checkers = bresh
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not even backgammon?
April 13th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
714.J Hill Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
712.YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
To all my tweeps, it’s official! I have accepted the Team Chaplain position with the Oakland Raiders. Wow, so excited!#Raider4Life
^^^^^^^^
Fantastic!
Preach on Napolean!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
If Chapman is there at #95, then he is my #1 choice for the Raiders to draft.
I also wouild love to see Corderro Law be converted to a stand OLB pass rusher/edge player who can stuff the run at the end of the 3rd. I like Mossaquio and Bradham as well.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Spence slip to the 4th round due to his size.
I wish Shea McClellin would fall to us at #95, he would be a great fit IMO. Too bad he will be gone in Round 2.
I would like to see Ronnell Lewis fall to #95 as well.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
He’s solid when he’s fresh, but too many times late in games I see him losing 1-on-1 matchups.
If the Raiders can add a true 1-tech or 0-tech tackle, it would let Kelly get more rest and allow him to focus on what he does best.
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Agreed.
The Seymour and Henderson injuries caused him to play way more snap than were intended, wouldn’t you say?
I don’t think Bryant and Houston were nearly as effective at DT as they were at DE. I think Chapman will be gone by the time we pick. But getting a guy to backup Seymour and Kelly is CRUCIAL!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Per PFT, Broncos starting CB Andre Goodman s on the market….
April 13th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Twocents Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Raidertalk, free men and free markets advance civilization. Socialist and central planning impoverish people.
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Your right. We should return our free makets to the level of freedom of 1929.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
What is our backup Oline looking like?
Veldheer-Open-Wiz-Brisiel-Barnes
Backups – Carlisle, Barksdale, Parsons.
There are going to be some highly rated OGs sitting there at 95, right?
April 13th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Agreed.
The Seymour and Henderson injuries caused him to play way more snap than were intended, wouldn’t you say?
I don’t think Bryant and Houston were nearly as effective at DT as they were at DE. I think Chapman will be gone by the time we pick. But getting a guy to backup Seymour and Kelly is CRUCIAL!
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I actually really like Bryant at DE. Could be a perfect fit at LDE.
I think Houston is a beast at DT and should be there more often. Manhandles OGs, collapses the pocket, but still maintains gap discipline. Not a flashy player, but a high-motor, disruptive young lineman. He’s going to be a very good pro.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Marcel Reece better get his arsse in camp. He’s fooling himself if he thinks he’s headed towards some sort of payday.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Fangupo from BYU would be a good pick in Round 5 as a NT prospect.
I think the big boy from Canada Akiem Hicks is an intriguing player as well as a NT.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Raidertalk, we should return to classical liberalism, that is what created the wealth that made modern society. Look it up.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I like Houston a lot. Just not at the expense of Kelly, so to speak. I have have Houston as a starter.
I think Seymour will be gone next year and we’ll have Kelly, Houston and Bryant as the main 3 on the DL.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I’m definitely not sold on Carlisle at LG, but I suppose the Raiders could do worse. I’m interested to see how highly the Raiders value offensive linemen.
Personally, I’m not very high on the O-line class this year. But the coaching staff knows exactly what they’re looking for. Could be some sleeper prospects who possess the kind of athleticism and intelligence it takes to be a proficient zone-blocking lineman.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I think Houston is a beast at DT and should be there more often. Manhandles OGs, collapses the pocket, but still maintains gap discipline.
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Based on what?
April 13th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Twocents Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Raidertalk, we should return to classical liberalism, that is what created the wealth that made modern society. Look it up.
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So how long before all the new distribution centers are out of business and they sell Cannibus over-the-counter at 7-11?
April 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I’m definitely not sold on Carlisle at LG, but I suppose the Raiders could do worse. I’m interested to see how highly the Raiders value offensive linemen.
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Reggie said that Knapp, Pollack and Classic Wiz thought #66 could play LG, and that’s good enough for me until proven otherwise.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Draft Needs …
S
DE/OLB
OG
NT
FA needs….
CB
QB
OT
April 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Based on what?
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He saw action there, particularly in nickel packages when Seymour was injured. Was very, very good. He’s very good at LDE, too, but isn’t really a natural edge rusher so he’s not going to put up huge sack numbers or anything.
Houston is the most talented defensive lineman on this team. He’ll be very valuable to the Raiders once Seymour and Kelly are gone.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Kell, just a theory but most guys are not from the city that their team represents. Maybe a team chaplain is a good and consistent option for guys that have that where they live in the offseason but don’t have consistent access during the football year.
A chaplain could also provide easier and less logistical access to religious services when on the road, or even at home for that matter.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
My FA wishlist:
FA targets:
QB Billy Volek
WR Jerome Simpson
C Jeff Faine
CB Andre Goodman
April 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Why does it have to come to Kelly being gone before Houston becomes very valuable? I think he’ll continue to show his value. He’ll remain a starter. Kelly and Seymour are not in his way at all.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Based on what?
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He saw action there, particularly in nickel packages when Seymour was injured. Was very, very good. He’s very good at LDE, too, but isn’t really a natural edge rusher so he’s not going to put up huge sack numbers or anything.
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How many snaps has Houston played at DT? or can’t you point to any particular game? because frankly, I don’t remember him playing there.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Raidertalk, I don’t get your point.
In a free market the consumer is sovereign.
Without a facist state the producers are successful only when they satisfy wants of the consumer.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Btw, Houston looks small compared to Kelly/Seymour.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Chaplain Napoleon Kaufman, love ya man! However, why not suit up for another gig with your OAKLAND RAIDERS? Bet you’ve still got some juice left in them old legs of yours!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
#691 twocents – please share if its as good as you say
April 13th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Pardon, can you point to any particular games where Houston played DT?
April 13th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Some great FOOTBALL talk in here today Nation, informative and interesting keep up the good work!
April 13th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
ya, i said trade huff only because he has more value and because he is imo the only defensive liability left. i’d prefer to keep him for depth obviously, never liked him as a player though. for me he is in that routt class. overpaid because of great potential that will never come, dude just simply can’t tackle and is suspect in coverage. we need to shut the backfield down with some heart hitn mofos with a nose for the football, not trackstars. like i said martin, branch, chekwa as nickle and b/u fs, bartell and spencer. maybe resign gio…no need for huff really.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RaidersNextGM, with freedom you will have everything that you can rightfully obtain.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
YA,
I wasn’t as impressed with Houston at DT as I was with him at LDE. Might have to do with limited snaps there.
Regardless, it’s a clean slate with me on all hte guys because the are going to be asked to do something different than they were last year.
I can see Houston lining up across from an OG and taking him out of the play, not “trying to get past him”. Same with Kelly/Seymour and whoever they are lined up in front of.
April 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Twocents Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Raidertalk, I don’t get your point.
In a free market the consumer is sovereign.
Without a facist state the producers are successful only when they satisfy wants of the consumer.
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I guess I said we were in the “golden age” of medicinal use pot because it is at an all-time low in regulation (see all the distribution centers poping up everywhere). And medicinal pot has not been taken up by entities like Marlboro and Camel.
Corporations who have sold cigs to kids, used chemicals to enance addicitive qualities, used their power to hide abuses (see the lawsuits), you know all the things to create more “wants” for the consumer.
I guess I like the market the way its now. Not some CEOs from NJR nabisco or Coke making all the $.
Like the home-made DIY thing happening. But I don’t smoke although I support Medicinal
April 13th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
J Hill Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
YA,
I wasn’t as impressed with Houston at DT as I was with him at LDE. Might have to do with limited snaps there.
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When did he play DT?
April 13th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
He played DT when Seymour was hurt and in some nickle packages. You didn’t notice because he wasn’t maing an impact.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raidertalk, my point is that without the government these large corporations would be at the mercy of the people. In a free society with free exchange the people rule.
I suspect that the sticking point in all these arguments is that most Americans believe that the “majority rules”.
I believe in individuals, I want no part of the politics of collectivism. Just because a majority says “give me what I want” has no authority with me.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Houston saw time at DT in the first SD game, MIN, MIA and GB games.
It’s his natural position, and in my opinion it shows. If we’re going to knock him for not getting sacks while playing DT part-time, then we’d have to knock TK and Seymour for all the games where they were unable to pressure the QB when that’s their full-time position.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I’ve got the Cleveland game, Detriot, SanDiego Thursday nite, Houston game on DVR. I don’t remember seeing Houston at DT in any. can anybody point to something I can see?
April 13th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
J Hill Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Why does it have to come to Kelly being gone before Houston becomes very valuable? I think he’ll continue to show his value. He’ll remain a starter. Kelly and Seymour are not in his way at all.
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He’s already valuable. But Kelly and Seymour aren’t getting any younger. My point is that Houston is going to be a key cog in this team going forward, especially because the current starters at DT don’t have a whole lot of productive years left.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
TK had 7.5 sacks to lead the league at his position.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Raider O Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Raccoon,
Smoking GDP!
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G Daddy is the Raider of Smoke!
April 13th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
TK had 7.5 sacks to lead the league at his position.
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He’s a skilled inside pass rusher. The problem is his run-stopping, or lack thereof.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
TK had 7.5 sacks to lead the league at his position.
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I remember when Rid Coleman had 10 from the same spot. 7 the year before.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Rod.
Man I miss D Russ and R. Upshaw.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Btw, Houston looks small compared to Kelly/Seymour.
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Cause he is.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
3rd (compensatory) – NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
4th (compensatory) – OLB Sammy Brown, Houston
5th – OLB/ILB Miles Burris, San Diego State
5th (compensatory) – DB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
6th – DE/OLB Frank Alexander, Oklahoma
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I like it man, I would switch Miles Burris to 4th and Sammy Brown to 5th though. I also wouldn’t mind seeing someone drafted on the oline
April 13th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Don’t forget the Raider defense read like a 3′rd grade reader to opposing coaches for the last 20 years. See spot run.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Houston is the same weight, but 3 or 4 inches shorter than Seymour and TK.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
NoT true YA, that’s obvious.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Houston is a leverage player. Gets underneath blockers and fights through to fill his gap. Solid tackler, disciplined, high motor.
Last month, one of the scouts I follow on Twitter said “I never get tired of watching Lamar Houston play.”
For what it’s worth, he led the Raiders’ defensive linemen in tackles last season. 51. Next highest was Kelly at 41.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I think frank alexander gets drafted before the 6th round
April 13th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
They are listed about the same weight, my eyes says different.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Houston is the same weight, but 3 or 4 inches shorter than Seymour and TK.
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No way Houston is over 305, and now way TK is under 330 I’ve stood and spoke to both of em side by side.
Tardell Sands wasn’t on .oz under 350. Dude was SCARY big, but lazy.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I’m all for Houston. Agree that he is a baller. Have him in my starting lineup.
Just don’t see the need to get rid of Kelly or Seymour. We need SIX really good DE/DT types. We have 4 really good ones in Kelly-Seymour-Houston-Bryant. I’d like to see all of those guys get major snaps this year.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Big shout out to Napoleon Kaufman!!! Welcome back!!!
April 13th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Napoleon Kaufman returns to Raiders, as team chaplain.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/13/napoleon-kaufman-returns-to-raiders-as-team-chaplain/
April 13th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
anyone know if their is any truth to Ryan Grant becoming a Raider??
April 13th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
that screen name cracks me up bout Elways teeth lol
April 13th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I am not “religious’ but I do believe in intelligent design.
I do have a serious problem with those that insist that it was the state that created the world.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
The donks released andre goodman i would say we should bring him in and reading some of the post on pft some raider fans wants him. Never seen him play amd when i looked him up on youtube and he was getting abused by ford and dhb. But thats good to see ford and dhb torching cbs but i dont know about goodman what do yall think?
April 13th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
# Thec Says:
April 12th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Hardy Video:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/4/10/2937441/andre-hardy-the-national-copycat-league-continues
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No bad, I would like to see get off the line quicker and run more crisp routes.
I think he can do more damage being split out in slot in red zone or short yardage situations and he can be sneaky in drag routes.
April 13th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Goodman played pretty well under Allen. Would be a decent option to add competition for the nickel CB role if the Raiders don’t add a CB in the draft. Would be nice to have a fallback option if Bartell can’t stay healthy or Spencer doesn’t cut it.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Frank Alexander Oklahoma, #84
6-3.5″ WT: 260lbs. 40-YD: 4.85 FIT: DLE
ARM: NA HAND: NA AGE: 22
Fairly instinctive non-athletic, stiff, try-hard competitor lacking rush speed and functional strength for the pro game.
Prediction: FA
April 13th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
# BewareofRaiders Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
The donks released andre goodman i would say we should bring him in and reading some of the post on pft some raider fans wants him. Never seen him play amd when i looked him up on youtube and he was getting abused by ford and dhb. But thats good to see ford and dhb torching cbs but i dont know about goodman what do yall think?
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I agree. I think McK and Allen should try and sign Goodman and then we don’t have to waste any picks on the CB position in the draft.
Don’t see us drafting a TE now that McK signed Hardy to compete with the other 3 TE’s on roster.
April 13th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Looked up goodman stats and he had 10 pass deflections and 2 ints along with 49 tackles not bad. And he was a starter
April 13th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
yea i mean, why not? i bet they’ll miss Goodman when Porter goes down with injury.. which is bound to happen sooner or later … he could easily compete with the useless Spencer and push him off the roster.
April 14th, 2012 at 12:00 am
BewareofRaiders Says:
April 13th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Looked up goodman stats and he had 10 pass deflections and 2 ints along with 49 tackles not bad. And he was a starter
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that’s better than anyone currently on the raider’s roster, outside of maybe Bartell given he’s healthy
April 14th, 2012 at 5:55 am
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