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What Raiders can expect from this year’s draft class

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, April 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders aren’t scheduled to make their first selection in this year’s NFL draft until the final pick of the third round, at No. 95 overall. In total, they have five picks as of now, including three compensatory selections.
That got us thinking, how did the teams fare last year with the comparable selections that the Raiders have this year. In short, the only player selected at the draft spots the Raiders hold right now that did anything of note was Raiders wide receiver Denarius Moore.
Moore was selected in the fifth round, at No. 148. Coincidentally, that’s one of the spots the Raiders pick this year, too. Here’s the breakdown of the players selected last year at the draft spots the Raiders have this year:

95 – Curtis Brown, defensive back, Texas, Steelers
128 – Julius Thomas, tight end, Portland State, Broncos
148 – Denarius Moore, wide receiver, Tennessee, Raiders
168 – Demarcus Love, offensive line, Arkansas, Vikings
189 – Mike Mohamed, linebacker, Cal, Broncos

Brown played in 12 games for the Steelers. During those games, he posted 14 tackles and forced one fumble.

Thomas appeared in five games for the Broncos last season. He caught one pass for 5 yards.

Love didn’t appear in any games for the Vikings.

Mohamed played in two games for the Broncos, but he didn’t make any tackles or post any stats.

Moore burst onto the scene right away, securing meaningful playing time from the outset of the season. He started 10 of the 13 games he played and caught 33 passes for 618 yards and five touchdowns.

So, an unscientific look at where the Raiders pick this year shows that there are quality players available, even if the hit rate isn’t anywhere near as high as in the earlier rounds.
The key is, identifying those players and hoping they are available when the Raiders pick.

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  • SharkCatcher

    That Quinton Mosses Kid is a beast. You hit some…. you miss some.

  • Raidernationdave

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    No Lance didn’t want Rodgers,he was already on the Packers.Lance wanted the other QB who was a bust that year from ND.

    __________________________________________________

    Well he could be kinda right…remember supposedly GB was going to trade us Aaron Rogers for Randy Moss when Kiffen was the head coach. Could you imagine Aaron Rogers and Calvin Johnson!
    +++++++++++++

    Thanks Dutch for the backup.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    I don’t think Todd Marinoivich was considered a sure thing, nor Rickey Dudley or Rob Fredrickson. But many were.

  • Twocents

    I don’t think Kiffin wanted Quinn, he wanted Johnson.
    He brought him in for a look-see and when asked what he thought of him, 1-10, he said “he’s a 15.”

  • lefty12

    KK,that is why I said “usually,again,usually”.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    But, when you only have 6 playoff appearances in the last 25 years, Al Davis’ drafting was not the only problem.

  • Twocents

    If our rookie coach could see that, why didn’t the “genius”.

  • Hardline

    Lefty12:

    Sorry Lefty, I shall stay on point.

  • Twocents

    Al Davis was the entire franchise, who else is there to blame?

  • realtruraider

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubYpplmzVk
    ——————————————————

    Listen to Mel Kiper right after we drafted Russel.

    It was the 1st pick in the draft. Not alot of teams would draft a WR with the 1st pick, thats just how it is. Now in hindsight Megatron would of ben well worth the risk, but thats hindsight

  • lefty12

    We had Moss and should have taken Johnson.Sure take a WR every year.It worked so well for Millen in Detroit didn’t it!If the bust had turned into the player most thought he’d be all you naysayers would be here saying you knew he’d be great and were glad we picked him over everyone else.

  • http://000 Bob Marley

    TE Rickey Dudley.

    People forget but he was the 1st basketball player turned TE, we picked him 9th in 1996 and the next year KC drafted Tony Gonzalez with the 13th pick, needless to say it worked out better for them.

  • Raidernationdave

    lefty12 Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    Lance wanted Aaron Rodgers is a correct statement.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Not when we were talking about the draft and you make the statement Lance wanted Rodgers.Lance wanted to draft Brady Quinn.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Read your history about this Lefty.

    “Prior to the 2007 season, rumors surfaced about a potential trade involving Rodgers in which he would be traded to the Oakland Raiders for wide receiver Randy Moss.[38] However, Moss was traded to the New England Patriots during the second day of the 2007 NFL Draft, and Rodgers stayed in Green Bay.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Rodgers

    I said Lance wanted Aaron Rodgers. Lance may have indeed wanted Brady Quinn before JaFatso. Last time I checked Brady Quinn was still in the NFL. JaBustus? Purple drank baby, purple drank!

  • Twocents

    Millen wasn’t a “genius”. According to some, Al Davis was.

  • Raidernationdave

    KoolKell Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Hardline, you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.
    ++++++++++++

    Anyone surprised by that statement?

  • http://000 Bob Marley

    If you don’t have a QB, you grab the QB.

    Period.

    Jimmy Johnson often mentioned this.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Bob Marley Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    TE Rickey Dudley.

    People forget but he was the 1st basketball player turned TE, we picked him 9th in 1996 and the next year KC drafted Tony Gonzalez with the 13th pick, needless to say it worked out better for them.
    ———————————————
    Gonzales also had a great career as a football player at Cal.

  • Raidernationdave

    Seymour Bush Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    If you are talking about the Randy Moss for Aaron Rodgers deal, you have some cred.
    ++++++++++

    Bite me!

  • realtruraider

    A trade (almost)

    When trades are made, there may be two negotiations: one about trade compensation, and one about financial compensation.

    In 2007, the Raiders made Randy Moss available. We were interested provided we could agree on trade terms and compensation. The Patriots were interested, too.

    Moss demanded a one-year deal so he could hit the market after the season and recoup some lost value, but we insisted on a two-year deal. We did not want to be a temporary stop for him before he made another big contract elsewhere. When New England relented on the one-year term, Moss was a Patriot.

    Favre was livid. I spent the rest of the draft listening to Bus Cook, his agent, express Favre’s anger, along with threats to not show up. I knew Favre had long dreamed of playing with Moss, but I told him that Greg Jennings would be a star in time. Favre said he didn’t have time. I explained our method of drafting and developing players, but it only served to deepen his resentment of a general manager who did not welcome his input the way previous regimes had.

    Andrew Brandt
    ——————————————————-

    To me this sounds like Moss was the reason we didn’t trade him to the Packers.

  • lefty12

    Raidernationdave-we were talking about the draft.Kiffen may or may not have wanted Rodgers-there is no documentation he was the one behind the trade RUMOR,and that is what it was -a RUMOR.That isn’t what we were discussing.It was reported Kiffin wanted to draft Quinn over the bust.

  • Just Fire Baby

    J,

    I know I am from New Mexico and fairly unfamiliar with the subject, but I did not see any rain today.

  • Raidernationdave

    SharkCatcher Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Coach Davis knew about Jamarcus Russel since he was 12 yrs old (documented) and when he fell in in our laps at # 1 there was no way he wasn’t going to draft him.C Johnson wasnt a 100% sure thing and Coach Davis wasn’t impressed with him running with somebody’s else shows at the combine.
    +++++++++++++++

    Lots of people, not just Al, knew about JaFatso when he was 12 including the ice cream man and the local doughnut shop!

  • Raidernationdave

    lefty12 Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Raidernationdave-we were talking about the draft.Kiffen may or may not have wanted Rodgers-there is no documentation he was the one behind the trade RUMOR,and that is what it was -a RUMOR.That isn’t what we were discussing.It was reported Kiffin wanted to draft Quinn over the bust.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Before the draft Lance wanted AR. Rumor or not it is documented. Say what you will about Lance, plenty have including me, but the dude can evaluate talent and it is well documented Lance didn’t want JaPurpledrank.

  • raider till i die

    I don’t think we need TE do we really?? I thought we were set

  • Marks hair

    224. We are. Corks always wrong

  • lefty12

    It isn’t documented,but since all you seem to care about is whether you are considered right, I’ll play along and say Kiffin wanted Rodgers.The only problem is we were discussing the draft,who Kiffen wanted in the draft, and Rodgers wasn’t in the same draft class as ‘the bust’.

  • Twocents

    Marley, many a GM has lost his job by grabbing the QB.
    The point is, Al could not lose his job. Never drafted a QB in his life.
    Don’t count Stabler or Plunkett. Stabler was a Wolf pick, Plunkett was Flores.

  • Raidernationdave

    realtruraider Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    A trade (almost)

    When trades are made, there may be two negotiations: one about trade compensation, and one about financial compensation.

    In 2007, the Raiders made Randy Moss available. We were interested provided we could agree on trade terms and compensation. The Patriots were interested, too.

    Moss demanded a one-year deal so he could hit the market after the season and recoup some lost value, but we insisted on a two-year deal. We did not want to be a temporary stop for him before he made another big contract elsewhere. When New England relented on the one-year term, Moss was a Patriot.

    Favre was livid. I spent the rest of the draft listening to Bus Cook, his agent, express Favre’s anger, along with threats to not show up. I knew Favre had long dreamed of playing with Moss, but I told him that Greg Jennings would be a star in time. Favre said he didn’t have time. I explained our method of drafting and developing players, but it only served to deepen his resentment of a general manager who did not welcome his input the way previous regimes had.

    Andrew Brandt
    ——————————————————-

    To me this sounds like Moss was the reason we didn’t trade him to the Packers.
    +++++++++++++++++

    lefty12 Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Raidernationdave-we were talking about the draft.Kiffen may or may not have wanted Rodgers-there is no documentation he was the one behind the trade RUMOR,and that is what it was -a RUMOR.That isn’t what we were discussing.It was reported Kiffin wanted to draft Quinn over the bust.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Need I say more?

    Oh what would have been! 07 the Raiders draft Calvin Johnson number 1 and it could have been something special. Oh well, no use crying over spilled purple drank!

  • realtruraider

    223

    How the fk do you know Lame wanted him? Show me the documents. If anything it was Al. I don’t even think they offered up Rodgers from what I have read.

  • Raidernationdave

    lefty12 Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    It isn’t documented,but since all you seem to care about is whether you are considered right, I’ll play along and say Kiffin wanted Rodgers.The only problem is we were discussing the draft,who Kiffen wanted in the draft, and Rodgers wasn’t in the same draft class as ‘the bust’.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Man Lefty you sure are hard-headed. Is it possible to conceive in your mind, prior to the draft of 07, that Lance was leading a play to try and get AR? That’s what I’m talking about.

  • realtruraider

    228

    You got it all twisted, you don’t have a fking clue. That article doesn’t say nothin about Rodgers or Lame.

  • raiderzmaverick

    Five Gallon Oil Can Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    How can anyone ever deny how great Coach Davis was. Even in his last dreft he had the acumen to draft the great Denarius Moore. The man had it all til the end.

    And if anyone ever wants to criticize Coach for taking JaRussell, well, any of the other 31 teams would have taken him #1. We just happened to have the #1 pick that year. Russell could throw the ball a country mile. Who woulda thought he couldn’t play football.

    And the team that Coach built last year shoulda been in the post season. Not Coachs’ fault the defense shat the bed.
    ============================
    I’d argue that. I think that he definitely had some good things going (including some good picks the last few drafts). But, also he had some bad things going.

    It is LARGELY “Coach’s fault” that the defense shat last season, as he was the one that brought in Bresnehan to run it.
    Any self-respecting owner wouldn’t have stooped that low, or forced such a thing upon his Head Coach. It’s like setting the team up for failure before it even began.

  • severeraiderz

    I wanted Megatron in the first and Stanton in the second or Troy Smith in the fourth

  • Raidernationdave

    realtruraider Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    223

    How the fk do you know Lame wanted him? Show me the documents. If anything it was Al. I don’t even think they offered up Rodgers from what I have read.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    The play was on and it was led by Lance. You’ll recall, hopefully, that it was too far into his “reign” as head coach that Lance routinely and often clashed with Al. WTF you folks have some real short memories.

  • http://000 Bob Marley

    So Al was letting Lane shop his prized, star, ultimate vertical-weapon WR?.

    I don’t think so.

  • realtruraider

    That whole draft sucked for QB, Russell, Quinn, Edwards etc. none have done schit, horrible draft for QB’s

  • Twocents

    Let’s say I make some investments in the 70′s. I am wildly successful. Then in the nineties I am broke. Would you hail me as a genius?

  • lefty12

    Sure it was possible,but it isn’t documented and there is nothing to suggest he did.You are speculating and trying to present it as fact.The thing is WE WERE DISCUSSING THE DRAFT,not trades.

    227-the Raiders picked up Plunkett after he was dumped by the whiners,he wasn’t a Wolf pick.

  • realtruraider

    @Raidernationdave

    Show me anything that supports the garbage you are throwing around. You sound alot like that fool Sulli/MR ,right now

  • Raidernationdave

    realtruraider Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    228

    You got it all twisted, you don’t have a fking clue. That article doesn’t say nothin about Rodgers or Lame.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Read this, and be a man and apologize after: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Rodgers

    This from March of 2007 from the archive”Archive for March, 2007
    Randy rumors rampant

    Lane Kiffin left Atlanta following the Pro Day of Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson Thursday afternoon as rumors swirled that the Raiders were on the verge of dealing wide receiver Randy Moss to the Green Bay Packers.

    According to the Boston Herald, the Raiders would also ship tight end Courtney Anderson to Green Bay. In return, Oakland would receive backup quarterback Aaron Rodgers and a seventh-round draft pick.

    The Green Bay Press Gazette countered with a story which said outgoing Packers CEO Bob Harlan said no deal is imminent.

    Harlan said he had not heard a word regarding a deal from general manager Ted Thompson. “If it was that close, (Thompson) would have called us by now.”

    All the while, Profootballtalk.com has continued to update the Moss-to-Packers scenario, having first broached Rodgers’ potential involvement days ago.

    If the Raiders were to receive Rodgers and a No. 7 for Moss and Anderson, it would be a fairly unprecedented dump job by Davis of a substantial talent. More importantly, it would be evidence Davis’ priority is to give his young coach an environenment more conducive to success.

    But whatever the Raiders don’t get in a Packers deal, their position as the top team in the draft becomes even more valuable. They could either get the player they want, or allow suitors to throw players and draft picks their way for the right to select JaMarcus Russell or Johnson, generally considered the top two talents in the draft.

    As for Rodgers, he seems to have more detractors than supporters. But if this deal were to be made, it would be clear Kiffin thinks Rodgers has enough skill to at least compete with Andrew Walter for the starting job in 2007 based on his own observations while Kiffin was USC and Rodgers was at Cal.

    Whether he’s right or wrong is not the point. Any play-calling coach ought to be able to pick his own quarterback.

    Right now, only Kiffin knows what he prefers. Based on his close-to-the-vest interviews at the LSU workout Wednesday, he has already mastered the art of the dodge.”

  • RAIDER WEAPON X http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_nation_station

    232. Russell could play. He choose not to. Big difference.

    I agree that Bres, like every single other thing done by the Raiders since 1963 was Al Davis’ doing but the old man dying last season can’t be held responsible for the injuries, pizz poor timing on substitutions , D play calls and personell at critical times.

    Thats on the guy Al picked to run the D.

    Not sure if people will ever understand the Davis D. Green Bay, New England and the Giants do.

    They posted the worst, the 2nd worst and the the 27th worst Defenses and all excelled last season because they kniow D stats mean shazzah.

    Critical plays that win games are paramount and thats they tyope of D were STILL going to be looking at with Reggie ball.

  • Twocents

    I never said that Plunkett was a Wolf pick. I meant that Flores recommended that he be picked up off the scrap heap.

  • Raidernationdave

    Bob Marley Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    So Al was letting Lane shop his prized, star, ultimate vertical-weapon WR?.

    I don’t think so.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The plan was on. WTF? Do you guys even follow Raider football?

  • Twocents

    Lefty12, read it again.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Vegas,

    Welcome to Cali.
    Btw, it’s raining (drizzling) in SD.

  • http://000 Bob Marley

    I can buy that Lane had enough pull, at least during his first few months on the job, to get Al to gauge league-wide interest on Moss, but no way Al let Lane, or any other coach, play GM and cook up trades with other teams.

    Andrew Brandt made it clear, he said the Raiders made Randy Moss available, not that we specifically offered him for Rodgers or anyone on their team, it was most likely GB who came asking about what it would take to get him since Favre wanted him so bad.

  • RAIDER WEAPON X http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_nation_station

    240. Wikipedia?! YOU could;ve written that! lol!

    Matt Flynn showed Rodgers, like Gannon, was a system QB. Even if “Lance” had gotten him he may not have been the same performer for us as he has been for GB.

    Kiffin may have had a bead on Rodgers, I don’t know, but he also signed Hall, Walker and others.

  • Raidernationdave

    realtruraider Says:
    April 25th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    @Raidernationdave

    Show me anything that supports the garbage you are throwing around. You sound alot like that fool Sulli/MR ,right now
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Read the post right below this turd you left!

  • RAIDER WEAPON X http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_nation_station

    Geez mauh-neez RR, half that “who we gonna pick?” list is RMR.

  • RAIDER WEAPON X http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_nation_station

    STEVE: thank U for all the great raider news! U and Jerry are much appreciated!