Raiders select OL Bergstrom — updated with quotes
By Steve Corkran
Friday, April 27th, 2012 at 8:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders first selection of the 2012 NFL draft is Utah offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom, with the 95th and final pick of the third round.
Bergstrom, 6-feet-5 and 313 pounds, is 25 years old. He started 12 games at right offensive tackle for Utah last season and was a first-team All-Pac 12 selection.
The Raiders projected guards are Mike Brisiel and Cooper Carlisle. Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie said Bergstrom will be worked at guard initially but that there’s a chance he will be used at offensive tackle at times, too.
Bergstrom played mostly right offensive tackle in college. He worked at left guard at the Senior Bowl and said he already views himself as a guard.
“There were some teams that I talked to that saw me as somebody who could play tackle,” Bergstrom said in a conference call with Bay Area media. “Even talking to the Raiders, they said maybe I could play tackle but I would probably move into guard first. I’m not sure. I kind of knew all along that I was going to be a guard first and maybe be able to play that backup tackle in the future, or right away. But guard’s my position. I’ve already changed my mind-set to guard. So, that’s what I’m thinking right now.”
McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen are rooted in the defensive-minded mold. Yet, they felt as if Bergstrom was too talented to pass on at the end of the third round.
McKenzie said he doesn’t view Bergstrom’s age — he will be 26 by the time the season begins — as a hindrance. Quite the contrary.
McKenzie said Bergstrom benefits from being more mature and grounded. Bergstrom is married and has a daughter. He went on a mission for his church straight out of high school.
Bergstrom said he spends most of his down time at home, studying and hanging out with his family.
“Physically, I feel like my body is as in as good a shape as any 20- or 21-year-old, and it will last just as long because I take care of it,” Bergstrom said.
Interestingly, Bergstrom was not one of the numerous players the Raiders had in for a pre-draft visit. However, the Raiders interviewed him at the NFL scouting combine and the Senior Bowl.
McKenzie said Bergstrom did well in the interview and showed that he is someone who loves football. McKenzie and Allen said they are intent upon selecting players who have a passion for playing football.
“We’re not gonna change our approach,” McKenzie said. “We want good football players. Of course, the bigger the better. The faster the better. As long as they are good football players that our coaches, we feel like our coaches can work with. That’s not gonna change. We’re not gonna take fliers just on guys, in hope that they can play.”
Allen said he loves Bergstrom’s versatility the most.
“He can play offensive tackle, he can play offensive guard,” Allen said. “He’s a guy that fits the type of scheme that we’re going to be here, with some of the zone-blocking stuff and his ability to get to the second level. So, when you watch tape on him, you can tell not only by watching tape that this guy loves football, but he also has the athleticism that you need to run our type of zone blocking scheme. So we’re excited about him and think he’s gonna be a real good player for us.”
Coincidentally, Bergstrom’s brother-in-law is Baltimore Ravens defensive end Paul Kruger, and the Raiders play the Ravens this season.
Bergstrom cited Kruger as being instrumental in his development into a pro prospect.
“He was a great help,” Bergstrom said. “Not just throughout this process. Even in my senior year, I talked to him and he’d kind of fill me in a lot on what it was about my game that needed to change and what NFL coaches were really looking for out of college linemen. That was probably the biggest help from him, just every week telling me what it is that I need to do to be more recognizable to NFL coaches.”
The Raiders took notice.
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April 27th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
1st
April 27th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Instant starter. Will be a Raider for 10 years
plus. Nice pick Reggie.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
woot Reggie is smarter than all of you!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Positives: Mature, seasoned right tackle. Has the agility, technique and size to contribute early in his professional career. Quick, active hands to latch on to defenders. Adequate foot quickness to remain outside. Can get to the second level with surprising agility when adjusting to moving defenders. Underrated athleticism, agility, balance and even straight-line speed to contribute. Impressed at guard and tackle at the Senior Bowl. Negatives: Susceptible to speed rushers. Has only average quickness off the snap and doesn’t possess the acceleration or arm length to corral defenders once they cross his face. Anticipates speed rushers attacking the edge and will over-set to the outside, leaving inside rushing lanes wide open for defenders to jab-step outside and re-direct through the gap.
Drops his head too often on contact, which causes problems against swim moves. Went on a two-year LDS mission following high school and will turn 26 in August
April 27th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Give me Massie if you’re going to take an O lineman. Can’t believe he’s still on the board.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Here’s a quote from our new right offensive tackle:
…(Your best strengths?) I’m a finisher. You watch me on film and I finish players not just plays.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
John David Booty Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Instant starter. Will be a Raider for 10 years
plus. Nice pick Reggie.
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Yeah i think he’ll start at LG or RT … not bad
April 27th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Mormon pick for the Raaaaiders in the draft.
Mormon pick for prez in November.
good year for the weird undies bunch!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
95.7 The Game @957thegame
@DaveRazzano likes the selection of Utah’s Todd Bergstrom. When Razz heard, he immediately said “Nice!” as he had the OT in the 2nd round
Retweeted by John Dickinson
April 27th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
you know where Reggies’ at. Wants to protect Palmer. So he got the big guy. Reggie Mac Code Black!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
OK CODE BLACK .. SEE YOU GUYS LATER
April 27th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
reggie fails….boring
April 27th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Reggie making a statement: he wants, steady, character guys with minimal flash (Bergstrom went on a mission for two years, which is why he’s now 26). I like it. It’s a new day in Raiderland. What you think, ChrisinNY? Still think Reggie’s upholding Al’s philosophy? Let’s build a team with character and talent, so you don’t have to hate the fkrs down the line.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
This is hilarious! All you wanna be draft experts are nothing but retarded jokers.
lmfao
April 27th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Amazed that Ronnell Lewis is lasting this long. Heard him mentioned as a potential 2nd round pick. Does he have some health issues I’m not aware of?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
I bet no one saw that coming.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
It took McKenzie all of 5 seconds to make this selection. They had him rated very highly, we have to wait and see, but I believe they figure he’s a starter.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
6. I like that quote very much. Tells me the kid’s got a mean streak.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
I like the pick. Big, versatile, intelligent O-Lineman. Great depth at the least.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Smart pick. Not sexy but value pick. We need replacement for coop soon. I bet a dt in next round.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Ohioraider, Yep. solid.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
YoungLibtard, give us your next expert opinion I haven’t laughed in at least 30 seconds.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Profootball Weekly has Bergstrom ranked as the #1 Z-OG, and mentions that he will thrive in a zone scheme
April 27th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Massie doesnt fit our scheme. Hes power dude.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
From PFW:
Notes:
Married and has a daughter. His brother-in-law is Baltimore Ravens DE Paul Kruger, a former Ute. Tony also earned letters in basketball (three) and track (two) at Skyline High in Utah. After graduating high school in 2005, went on LDS church mission. At Utah in 2008, appeared in 10 games, drawing one start at left tackle. Did not play against Michigan, Air Force or Oregon State (coach’s decision). Started all 26 games at right tackle the next two seasons, grading out at 81 percent in ’09 and 83 percent in ’10 when he did not allow a sack. Made 12 starts at right tackle in ’11 and graded out at a team-best 85 percent. Missed most of the Brigham Young game and did not play against Washington with a knee injury. Turns 26 in early August. Team captain.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
I’m glad the Raiders will have a plan behind Carlisle. Also potentially versatile enough to use as insurance behind Barnes and Barksdale.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
YoungAmerican Ronnell Lewis had school problems (I think grades). Could that be why hes dropping?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Puff puff pass my brothers!!
welcome to the nation Mr. Bergsrorm!!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
This is hilarious! All you wanna be draft experts are nothing but retarded jokers.
lmfao
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Even Cork thought it would be a DT!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Who you talkin’ to Massa Brown?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
In Reggie we trust.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Guy Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
YoungAmerican Ronnell Lewis had school problems (I think grades). Could that be why hes dropping?
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Interesting, could very well be. Maybe just not very impressive in interviews.
Looking forward to the rest of the draft, still a lot of quality football players. Exciting to finally see a Raider draft with BPA in mind.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Here is a link to the press conference:
http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=raidersofficial
April 27th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
The only worry i have is most mormon i know ae too nice. I hope he is a mean sob in pads.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Bark, Veldheer, Wiz and Berg….our o-line is set for the next decade.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I hope the rest of our games don’t get moved until after sundown do to his inability to work on Sundays…
Cooper best start looking for a agent to sell his house.
K2, there is your scoop…get on it.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Reggie PC NOW!
http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=raidersofficial
April 27th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Bergstrom at RT?
Says he played mostly RT at Utah.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Biography: Three-year starter used at both left and right tackle. All-conference selection the past two years.
Positives: College tackle who projects to guard in the NFL. Works to bend his knees, blocks with a wide base and stays square. Quickly gets his hands up, jolts defenders at the point of attack and keeps opponents away. Attacks assignments and works hard until the whistle blows. Makes good use of angles, keeps his feet moving and keeps his head on a swivel.
Negatives: Not a natural knee bender. Late with his hands on occasion. Not a finisher.
Analysis: Bergstrom displayed steady development in his game the past three years and looked terrific during the Senior Bowl when placed inside at guard. He’s a solid blocking prospect who could start at guard in the NFL and be a reserve at both tackle positions.
Projection: 3rd
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/79972.html#ixzz1tIkIm66r
April 27th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
8..8-Cork isn’t a great talent evaluator,haven’t you figured that out yet.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Kinda disappointed….really wanted Ronnell Lewis, due to our lack of depth. But, solid pick I guess.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I still can’t believe how disappointed I was when colts traded up, I thought for sure they would take Ta’amu after the Steelers passed on him. I wanted a run stopper so badly..
April 27th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I do not have one complaint.. Good depth for the O-Line
April 27th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Aig,
Mormons are very nice, super passive, they ride aound on horses and buggies, and if you kick them, they can’t fight back…
Oh wait, that isn’t the Mormons, that’s Kell.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Looks like SharkCatcher Lighter Snatcher was right in the thinking that Reggie would goi
offensive line..Just look at my ” who do u want ” prediction
April 27th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Analysis: Bergstrom displayed steady development in his game the past three years and looked terrific during the Senior Bowl when placed inside at guard. He’s a solid blocking prospect who could start at guard in the NFL and be a reserve at both tackle positions.
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Great stuff. Sounds like BPA and need aligning there.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
The kid projects very well @OG in a ZBS and they want to run the football. This is the type of player you need to run that scheme. I don’t like his armlength but he should be fine at OG and he’s a finisher…and a fighter.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
3 months of expert blog opinions and predictions down the drain, again! I been watching this circus for about 4 years now!
Luv it! Can’t wait until next years draft!
lol
April 27th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
…(37 career starts. Feel you’re ready?) Absolutely. We had a great coaching staff at Utah. I’ve been through a bunch of O-line coaches who all brought something new to the table. Between the three of them I think they prepared me about as well as I could be…(Your best strengths?) I’m a finisher. You watch me on film and I finish players not just plays. I’m really good with my hands. I get my hands inside. I have a good punch on pass blocking…(RT at Utah?) I was mostly right tackle. I played left as a freshman but switched to right and stayed there after that. I’m happy to move anywhere. I played only left guard in the senior bowl and felt like I did alright there. I played a little left tackle my freshman year. I played center in high school. I’ve heard all of it. I’ve heard guys say you’ll probably move to guard. Whatever. Whatever it takes to win. I want to win…(Married to Paul Kruger’s sister). Paul especially has been a great help. I’ve been talking to him a little bit. He’s been giving me advice on what to expect at the next level and throughout this combine process. (He went against Kruger in college.) He kicked my butt every day as a freshman. It was a good time. – Utah OT Tony Bergstrom, 2012 NFL Combine Transcript
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Just got home love the pick solid character guy and even better player Reggie I love this pick!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Raiderboi18 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Kinda disappointed….really wanted Ronnell Lewis, due to our lack of depth. But, solid pick I guess.
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Lack of interest in NT and DE/OLB hybrids might indicate something about their defensive plans for 2012.
If they take a linebacker, look for a 4-3 WLB type. Maybe Terrell Manning?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Our 1st pick is a 26 yo OG?!?!
I don’t like it. We allowed 387 yards last season, and we drafted a 26 yo OG.
Excuse me, but I don’t like this pick.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Kid is all pac 12, team capt, married and 26. guess we dont have to worry about him firing his gun at people when he goes home.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
At 6′6 and 315 pounds…dude is a big beast.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
r they gonna try this guy at rt ? every1 thought we were going for a dt granted carlisle is long in the tooth and maybe big reg is more concerned with palmers safety speaking of which offer 1 of our 5th rounders for colt mccoy
April 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I think the OL is set except for RT. I hope Barksdale is up to the task.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Sweet jesus, tj the clown is here to give his expert opinion hahaha
It doesn’t get much better than this….unless 0hbama’s teleprompter short circuits.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I’ve always thought that one of the advantages of ZBS is that OL and RB positions are easy to fill with lower round draft picks. We could have picked this guy up in later rounds. Good pick but there are at least 3 or 4 guys that are grading out higher on other teams boards. Would have liked them to focus on a run stopper now and pick this guy up later.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I told everyone that would listen that we were going line..its documented.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Our 1st pick is a 26 yo OG?!?!
I don’t like it. We allowed 387 yards last season, and we drafted a 26 yo OG.
Excuse me, but I don’t like this pick.
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Maybe the plan is to see how much of those issues were scheme-based before starting to address specific problems. Either way, lots of draft left. The rest of the Raiders’ picks come tomorrow.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Is he willing to play on sundays? Didn’t Al draft some mormon years ago that said fk dt schyyyyt, I don’t play on sundays!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Lefty12 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
8..8-Cork isn’t a great talent evaluator,haven’t you figured that out yet.
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I keep giving him the benefit of the doubt.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
So much for BPA…
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
tj,
CooCooKell was at Raider Image waiting for you with his walker and a broken fibula but you didn’t show up!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
DT42 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I’ve always thought that one of the advantages of ZBS is that OL and RB positions are easy to fill with lower round draft picks. We could have picked this guy up in later rounds. Good pick but there are at least 3 or 4 guys that are grading out higher on other teams boards. Would have liked them to focus on a run stopper now and pick this guy up later.
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I don’t know about that, not a very deep class on the OL this year. Some good prospects in the first three rounds, and a steep dropoff talent-wise after that.
It’s probable that the Raiders had some other players rated around the same as Bergstrom, but those players were at deeper positions.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Im Happy with a solid OL pick, lookin for D all day tomorrow. Hope so, I want this D to be Feared, RAIDERS!!!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Our 1st pick is a 26 yo OG?!?!
I don’t like it. We allowed 387 yards last season, and we drafted a 26 yo OG.
Excuse me, but I don’t like this pick.
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What is it about best player available that you don’t get?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Looks like no one won on the prediction list. Maybe we should keep it for the next pick…
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Dakota, Young was given permission in that 10% of his multi-million dollar contract went to their coffers.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
YA,
You know there were better players available. Ta’amu, Chapman, and Massaquoi are better than a 26 YO ZBS OG.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
HaHaHaHa
Imagine that!
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qodrn1 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Looks like no one won on the prediction list
April 27th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I guess by “BPA” Big Reg means his “BPA list”, not the consensus BPA list…
April 27th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Anything that helps the O line is ok with me.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Our 1st pick is a 26 yo OG?!?!
I don’t like it. We allowed 387 yards last season, and we drafted a 26 yo OG.
Excuse me, but I don’t like this pick.
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What is it about best player available that you don’t get?
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Maybe I don’t think he is the Best Player Available. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RaiderO this kid is a plug and play talent you don’t have to wait on. He did a mission out of Highschool for 2 years thus the age but aside from that he can play for 10 years easy. Stop with the parameters that don’t mean squat, we have a player………..period!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
So much for BPA…
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You don’t know what their board looked like.
Remember, team’s draft boards are VASTLY different from one another. A handful of teams had Bruce Irvin as a 1st round talent, others had him as a mid/late-round selection.
That’s the thing about the draft. Can’t second-guess your evaluations at the last minute. Stick to what you saw, and take the player you think is best.
Even with most of us here – all of us value players differently. My selection would have been different, but then again I’m not working directly with the coaches and scouts to create a draft board.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
“In 1995, BYU football standout Eli Herring made it clear to NFL teams that they shouldn’t draft him because he did not want to play football on Sunday’s. The reason – Sunday is the Lord’s day.
Herring would have been one of the top picks that year, but most teams respected his decision and didn’t draft him. Then the Oakland Raiders decided to use their 6th round pick on him in hopes that they could change his mind. They couldn’t. After a few months, the Raiders and all other teams left him alone and he hasn’t heard from the pros since.
Herring is now a math teacher at Mountain View High School in Orem, UT. He and his wife of eight years have four children. His church calling keeps him busy, as do his familial responsibilities.
Unable to get football completely out of his blood, Herring now coaches the offensive line at Mountain View.
Without hesitation, he says he does not regret his decision to forego professional football.”
April 27th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
I live in Utah and love the Utes. This guy will be good for the Raiders. Get as many Morons on the team as you want just don’t let one into the White House. Pleaseeeeeee!!!!! Romney can not sustain his block and is lousy in the ZBS anyway.
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haTE it when i post to myself lol
April 27th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
I gave up following the draft when Calvin Johnson & A Peterson were there for the taking and somehow they weren’t selected. I can take a hint!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Bergstrom seems pretty solid. Brother-in-law plays football in NFL. Married with a daughter. Game has been improving steadily. Guy that won’t end up on the beginning of the nightly news.
Disappointing as a first pick, but pretty good pick for round three. Seems to be a surprise; don’t think he clocked any visits to Alameda.
Maybe we still take the Alameda guy. The Raiders pick again real soon in the 4th round.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
I think most of us were expecting OL to be adressed in this draft. Maybe not with this pick but he obviously was the BPA, according to Reggie.
Tomorrow we’ll have a DT, a DE, 2 LB,s, & CB. Unless Reggie’s board has some real good offensive weapons left or a replacement for Shane “big money” Lechler!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Yall acting like we took a 26 year old in the 1st round…its the last pick in the 3rd!!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
YA,
You know there were better players available. Ta’amu, Chapman, and Massaquoi are better than a 26 YO ZBS OG.
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According to me? Sure. Although truly, the only players left I’d say are measurably “better” than Begstrom are Ronnell Lewis and Josh Chapman. But again, I don’t know what the Raiders are planning on doing on defense. Nor how they evaluate offensive linemen. All I can speak to are my own preferences.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
tj the clown, you are still doing this?
……..period
lmao
April 27th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
YA,
True dat, but I was kinda anticipating a different looking board, if you catch me.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I guess by “BPA” Big Reg means his “BPA list”, not the consensus BPA list…
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I’ll go with Reggie’s version of the BPA over Mycok, McShame, Melody Kiper or any mock draft geek site you guys looked at.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
I don’t know about that, not a very deep class on the OL this year. Some good prospects in the first three rounds, and a steep dropoff talent-wise after that.
It’s probable that the Raiders had some other players rated around the same as Bergstrom, but those players were at deeper positions.
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Massie, Sanders out of FSU just to name a few. If you want smart and dependable you can even pick Ben Jones out of Georgia. Its not a deep class for teams running power schemes but we don’t. So really the only boards that we should be concerned with are teams like the Redskins, Seahawks, Falcons and Texans. Like I said the pick doesn’t bother me but it doesn’t inspire me either. Just kind of average.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
BHP,
I respect you and your opinions, but I don’t think he is the BPA. I also know how passionate you are about everything Raiders, so your opinion doesn’t count. lol
April 27th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Qodrn the next raiders pick is a compensatory pick and it is like the 33rd pick of the 4th
April 27th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Anyone know why Massey is being passed over?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Steve Young was a mormon.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Yes, I see that. I misread the jumble on the screen at ESPN.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Sanders has worth ethic and health issues, as far as I’ve heard. Also, like Massie, isn’t a system fit.
About the right value for a solid player. Not sexy, but at #95 there are no “perfect” picks.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
It is called a draft for a reason who knows how these guys pan out, I like this pick solid in my opinion. Reggie knows talent and i believe alot of ours issues on defense last year were scheme and Coaching related Reggie knows what we need
April 27th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
No, really?
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Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Steve Young was a mormon.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Yup agreed sharkcatcher
April 27th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Everyone’s board is different they set it sccording to the scheme’s and player ratings for there organization if you’re looking at someone else’s board it can look skewed you have to be on this staff to understand. The LOS is how you win games the better you are on both sides the better team you have…………..period
April 27th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
I trust Big Mac,
He got his man, as anti-climatic as it was.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OT/Tony-Bergstrom.php
Strengths:
• Exceptional hand placement
• Utilizes leverage very well
• Quick off the snap
• Motor runs high
• Tough with a killer instinct
Weaknesses:
• Doesn’t excel in one area
• Often bends at the waist
• Not very athletic
• Massive struggles against speed
• May need to move inside to guard
Injury History:
•Missed two games in 2011 due to torn ligament in knee
Notes:
2011 First Team All-Pac-12 — Academic All-MWC — Cousin Ryan Roberts played baseball for the Chicago White Sox — Brother in-law of Ravens LB Paul Kruger — Limited upside but his versatility and toughness will be valued.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I love reggie’s hair…..no one will fk with a dude with hair like that.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Give me my Mutha&@% props…I atleast predicted an offenisive linemen JERKS!!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I think Ta’amu, Chapman, and Massaquoi are better prospects. They also can help a defense that allowed 387 yards last season. You People said we can’t blame it all on Chucky and the scheme, and players were responsible too.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Watch for the goal line offense to improve with this move. Carlisle was a liability there.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
OK, so maybe Reggie was serious when he said he’d go for BPA.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I am on record here stating that I hate ZBS. I stand by that.
Was not a fan last time it was here. Very doubtful it will work here now. Houston is only team I have seen have success running the ball with ZBS.
Hate to see picks wasted on OL that will be gone from here in 2 years when the ZBS fails to work again.
Defense was a huge need and the Raiders haven’t stopped the run in a decade.
Don’t like the pick.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I think Ta’amu, Chapman, and Massaquoi are better prospects. They also can help a defense that allowed 387 yards last season. You People said we can’t blame it all on Chucky and the scheme, and players were responsible too.
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You think so. I do too (at least with Chapman). But it doesn’t mean the coaching staff does, or that any of those players fit into what they’re planning on doing.
Yes, they could probably help the defense, but drafting for need is flawed. The Raiders have a plan and they’re sticking to it, as they should.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Shark,
Congrats on calling this shot. It was as satisfying as waiting for the end of the massage, only to have have the hot chick turn into an old grandma.
Oh, she can do the job, but it’s just not the same.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
MistaBrown Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
3 months of expert blog opinions and predictions down the drain, again! I been watching this circus for about 4 years now!
Luv it! Can’t wait until next years draft!
lol
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Yeah, it will be better next year when we have some picks. It’s tough being in the band when you don’t have a horn to blow.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Houston is only team I have seen have success running the ball with ZBS.
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Ever heard of the Denver Broncos? They won two Super Bowls using the ZBS.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Was not a fan last time it was here. Very doubtful it will work here now. Houston is only team I have seen have success running the ball with ZBS.
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Denver. Washington. Seattle. Chiefs. Even New England and Green Bay, who can run the ball when they need to.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
You know whats funny??
Reggie looks disappointed….he doesn’t sound content about the whole pick!
He’ll be 27 when season starts, he’s a Bible Thumper, he’s married with a kid…and he’ll retire in a couple of years!
Way to go Reggie!!!
Put on a smile Reggie…you drafted him!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Can never have enough big uglies on both sides. Hope we get a dt next round.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Maybe Reggie will trade up to get Alameda or Chapman.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
The thud heard ’round the Raider World.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Get this guys….
Bergstrom displayed his strengh at the combine; the 32 bench press reps tied for third most among offensive linemen.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
I would trade Tommy Kelly for the first pick in the 4th round.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Thanks lowdown …that’s more like it.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Just like there were no flashy free agent signings, Reggie is just doing his thing and drafting football players. Signing football players and drafting football players to replace the POS “athletes” that have choked our roster for years and years and years.
Doesn’t care about how they look coming off the bus….they just have to perform when it counts.
Reggie is going to fix this….he wasn’t left with much to work with this offseason, but he will get the job done.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Like this pick, our right side of the O Line was a mess with too many snap count issues, confused assignments…
Bergstrom is a grown ass man who is grounded and will come to work everyday…shipping out Campbell and drafting Bergstrom says a lot about how much Character and effort will rate among the coaching staff/mgmt…
BTW: Anyone remmeber that Mark Wilson was a Mormon and he had no trouble playing on Sundays, he just had trouble paying QB in the NFL…
April 27th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Houston is only team I have seen have success running the ball with ZBS.
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Ever heard of the Denver Broncos? They won two Super Bowls using the ZBS.
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With a HOFer at QB. Denver win anything since he left?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I don’t know this front office like I knew the previous but I do know how organizations work. EVERYONE’s board is different. BPA to one org. is very different to BPA in another. You cannot judge one org. based on another. They’re runnning diff scheme’s and the board is set accordingly.
None of you know how they’re coaches and scouts view one player juxtaposed to another. You’re making judgements based on bits and piece’s of info and drawing hard conclusions when you just don’t know.
I listen and watch what people do and I draw conclusions based on what is said and DONE!. They’re not out to appease a buinch of fans they want to win. This pick is an indication they have a plan IMHO!!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
BPA is overrated!
If I need DL, and there are a few players available (including DL) with similar grades, then I will draft a DL over a the BPA available if the grades are very similar. If there is a huge gap, then I will take the BPA.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
R8eray Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
You know whats funny??
Reggie looks disappointed….he doesn’t sound content about the whole pick!
He’ll be 27 when season starts, he’s a Bible Thumper, he’s married with a kid…and he’ll retire in a couple of years!
Way to go Reggie!!!
Put on a smile Reggie…you drafted him!
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The 27-years-old thing doesn’t worry me. Guards can play well into their 30s.
As anti-religion as I am, I really don’t care about his religious views, as long as he can play.
Married with a kid is GOOD. It means you don’t have to worry about him tomcatting around or snorting cocaine of some groupie’s chest.
As for the whole “he’ll retire in a couple of years:” What are you smoking, and can I have some?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Sanders has worth ethic and health issues, as far as I’ve heard. Also, like Massie, isn’t a system fit.
About the right value for a solid player. Not sexy, but at #95 there are no “perfect” picks.
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Massie might not be a system fit but i question the comment about Zebbie Sanders. His position coach is Rick Trickett, they run a zone blocking scheme at FSU and again there position coach is Rick Trickett. If there is one OLine that i’m not worried about as far as discipline and work ethic its FSU. You must be thinking Mario Henderson. There’s story (rumor) that Trickett allegedly peed on a football twice before allowing a center to snap the ball because he was “pissed off” at the kid. Here’s snapshot of a day in the life of an FSU Olineman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJjeSavdGI
April 27th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
We are a team with MANY needs, and the pick indicated that RM saw how taxed our offensive line was last year. Our center played hurt most of the season and Campbell just never earned the trust of the coaching staffs. When he left via trade, we should have perked up our ears that Reggie would try for another o-lineman. You need several offensive lineman and the more versatile they are, the better.
There are defensive players by the load left on Reggie’s board, but I’m going to take him at his word–that of those on his list, he took the best player.
Defensive players always get more attention from fans, but just think how great it is when you have a team whose offense can grind it, keep getting first downs, protect the qb, and wear down the opponent’s defense while keeping your defense on the bench, rested.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
morons give me the chills, like gnomes, the Easter bunny, and other fictional creatures….
This ain”t your daddy’s Raiders.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
BPA is absolutely not overrated.
You have to draft players who you believe can play. If you reach for a player just because he plays a position you “need” and leave players you believe are BETTER on the board, it doesn’t help your team.
If the “need” pick doesn’t pan out, not only do you still have to fill that need but you didn’t even get a player who can contribute to your football team.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Reg looks like he’s gonna fire him some scouts…
April 27th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
morons give me the chills, like gnomes, the Easter bunny, and other fictional creatures….
This ain”t your daddy’s Raiders.
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Maybe Nap Kaufmann can show him the way to salvation?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
What’s with all the Mormon talk? You people never around Mormons? Hard-working, helpful, dedicated to a higher purpose, including helping their fellow man, never mooch off others, taught self-reliance and responsibility from the day they’re born, taught to contribute to team/group efforts.
And remember Steve YOung?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I don’t know this front office like I knew the previous but I do know how organizations work. EVERYONE’s board is different. BPA to one org. is very different to BPA in another. You cannot judge one org. based on another. They’re runnning diff scheme’s and the board is set accordingly.
None of you know how they’re coaches and scouts view one player juxtaposed to another. You’re making judgements based on bits and piece’s of info and drawing hard conclusions when you just don’t know.
I listen and watch what people do and I draw conclusions based on what is said and DONE!. They’re not out to appease a buinch of fans they want to win. This pick is an indication they have a plan IMHO!!
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I love your ability to transition seamlessly from Captain Obvious to Captain Oblivious and back.
You sound like you are on your period………period!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Not a sexy pick but possible starter for years to come if that’s the case were guna look back and say exallent pick bye Reggie
April 27th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
morons give me the chills, like gnomes, the Easter bunny, and other fictional creatures….
This ain”t your daddy’s Raiders.
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Of course, because BYU has NEVER produced any NFL players before. Not one. Ever.
And Mormon beliefs are no more or less nutty than conventional Christian beliefs.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700210746/Utah-Utes-football-Tony-Bergstrom-Us-leader-of-leaders.html
I like it. The guy looks like a best and a good guy. It’s a new day in Raider Naton.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
With a HOFer at QB. Denver win anything since he left?
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Elway was over the hill at the time. Terrel Davis and the ZBS won those Super Bowls.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Hey, its the 95th pick. Not like their is a lot of value out there at this point.
I just don’t like ZBS I don’t value ZBS OL very high.
But hey, I just watch the games. Don’t have to like the pick. I will still be a Raiders fan regardless of who they draft, what offense they run, or how sorry their defense is every year.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Duck, going into the #93rd pick I was like…it’s a can’t miss with Brandon Thompson (DT), Alameda Ta’amu (NT) and Cam Johnson (DE) we gotta get one or the other…2 picks later I was like…WTF, my wife started laughing, talking about I had
a look on my face like someone got killed!
Just a little (ALOT) disappointed..that’s all!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I was at the game in SF where a freaking UNCOVERED Nap, dropped a hot read pass from Gannon….He was wide open, uncovered….Have despised him since that day.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
What’s with all the Mormon talk? You people never around Mormons? Hard-working, helpful, dedicated to a higher purpose, including helping their fellow man, never mooch off others, taught self-reliance and responsibility from the day they’re born, taught to contribute to team/group efforts.
And remember Steve YOung?
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And will soon be running the country!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
With a HOFer at QB. Denver win anything since he left?
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Elway was over the hill at the time. Terrel Davis and the ZBS won those Super Bowls.
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sure… whatever
April 27th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I thought they’d go defense but this is a smart pick.
No Bergstrom’s not that aggressive a player but he is a smart player and should work out well with the ZBS.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Ok sharkcatcher.. you got close. shame we weren’t playing horseshoes .!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
you guys act like you have always loved ZBS.
I remember when this board was sick of just a few years ago.
guess I’m the only one brave enough to be consistent.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
What’s with all the Mormon talk? You people never around Mormons? Hard-working, helpful, dedicated to a higher purpose, including helping their fellow man, never mooch off others, taught self-reliance and responsibility from the day they’re born, taught to contribute to team/group efforts.
And remember Steve YOung?
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And will soon be running the country!
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The only Mormon who might soon be “running the country” is Jon Huntsman five years from now.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Raider O You’re just pissed because they didn’t do what YOU think they should’ve done. What you don’t uinderstand is YOU don’t count. You’re not in that warroom making decisions that cna get you fired a year from now. They are!!
Fans think they know more than the professionals because you have a modicum of info enough to be dangerous. These people know what they need they see the tape they know what’s on this team we don’t. This kid can play and we needed depth on this line. We got it and that is all that matters…………period
April 27th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Yes, morons are as fictional as Michael Jackson, the boogeyman and “insert other religion here”.
They just give me the creeps, what with their civility, and running for President and all.
It might be a boon for us, He might be calm, but once he gets one or two more wives, he’ll become crazed and take it out on opposing defenses.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Reggie looked like he was gonna cry during the press conference…like he didn’t really want that pick!
Press asking him “you do know this will go down in history as your 1st pick as a GM?”
Hope he’s got something up his sleeve for tomorrow!!
April 27th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
morons give me the chills, like gnomes, the Easter bunny, and other fictional creatures….
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You don’t like him based on his religion?!
What the fuk is wrong with you?
The only thing that matters is whether he can play football.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Anyone think with all of the DTs taken by the rest of the AFC west, the Raiders got worried and drafted a OG?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
BPA is absolutely not overrated.
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Did you read the entire post??
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
BPA is overrated!
If I need DL, and there are a few players available (including DL) with similar grades, then I will draft a DL over a the BPA available if the grades are very similar. If there is a huge gap, then I will take the BPA.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Yes, morons are as fictional as Michael Jackson, the boogeyman and “insert other religion here”.
They just give me the creeps, what with their civility, and running for President and all.
It might be a boon for us, He might be calm, but once he gets one or two more wives, he’ll become crazed and take it out on opposing defenses.
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I’m no Mormon, but you are aware they banned polygamy well over 100 years ago?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
It might be a boon for us, He might be calm, but once he gets one or two more wives, he’ll become crazed and take it out on opposing defenses.
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lol
April 27th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Fans are way too fickle he makes one freakin pick and you all turn on him. That why it’s insane to listen to media and fans, they all think they know. But they don’t…………period
April 27th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
LMAO! I was thinking the same. They have a PLAN!!! lol
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I love your ability to transition seamlessly from Captain Obvious to Captain Oblivious and back.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Huntsman is another nice congenial bloke, met him in Beijing…nice guy. Creepy guy.
Like Barney or Mr. Rogers, or Gepedofile from Ponochio.
The upside? no Cooper at LG.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Fans are way too fickle he makes one freakin pick and you all turn on him. That why it’s insane to listen to media and fans, they all think they know. But they don’t…………period
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Have to agree here. I have my own preferences, but I’m not about to pretend I know more than the coaching staff. Especially once you get to the 95th pick in the draft.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
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I’m no Mormon, but you are aware they banned polygamy well over 100 years ago?
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Banned shmanned. I can drive you 30 miles away from my house and show you a town of thousands of them. You ever hear of Warren Jeffs?? I can educate you all on the subject and I am not Mormon or Polig
April 27th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
BHP,
All our opinions don’t count, but that should not stop fans from forming opinions. I never said I know more than the ORG, I never said I know more than the avg fan, but I don’t have to agree with the everything.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Bergstrom was the third strongest O linemen at the combine.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
R8eray Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Reggie looked like he was gonna cry during the press conference…like he didn’t really want that pick!
Press asking him “you do know this will go down in history as your 1st pick as a GM?”
Hope he’s got something up his sleeve for tomorrow!!
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I think that’s more “Reggie being tired” than anything else. And he’s got another long, hard day ahead of him tomorrow.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Kell left here in a hurry.
Off to sell Cooper’s house.
Goodbye to both geezers.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Fans are way too fickle he makes one freakin pick and you all turn on him. That why it’s insane to listen to media and fans, they all think they know. But they don’t…………
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Hey!
Priest is back! And sticking up for the Raiders and the world is as it should be….period.
Welcome back Priest.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
you can never go wrong with a UTE player. They have a great head coach and usually produce high character guys with great work ethic.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
So we pretty much got the 2nd pick in the 5th round? Is that right?
34th overall when there’s 32 teams?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
#134, Thanks for the link.
Yes, RM is going for leaders. (Consider Monte Poole’s comments about high-priced Stanford Routt–for that money a player should be a leader, not the follower Poole called him, and I agree. You need a few real leaders on both sides of the ball.
Majored in chemical engineering–hardly the kind of guy you’d get from LSU, Alabama, and the like.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
How can anyone be upset with drafting a lineman, regardless of offense or defense? All these years we would hear how Al neglected the trenches and that’s where games were won. Now RM is focusing on getting a potential starter and certainly depth where needed and people are whining?
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
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I’m no Mormon, but you are aware they banned polygamy well over 100 years ago?
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Banned shmanned. I can drive you 30 miles away from my house and show you a town of thousands of them. You ever hear of Warren Jeffs?? I can educate you all on the subject and I am not Mormon or Polig
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Saying Warren Jeffs represents Mormons is like saying Fred Phelps represents mainstream Christianity.
The Mormon hierarchy would LOVE it if Jeffs and his entire clan vanished off the face of the Earth tomorrow. They consider him a 100% heretic.
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
wasbanned Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
you guys act like you have always loved ZBS.
I remember when this board was sick of just a few years ago.
guess I’m the only one brave enough to be consistent.
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Naw, not a big fan of ZBS. For one, McFadden plays better in a power offense. He struggled with the ZBS early on. I am skeptical about how well he is going to play in that offense.
Remember, Hugh asked Darren what he liked, he said power, and that is when he started looking like one of the best two backs in football.
Anyone who thinks DMAC is not the key to our season (offensively) is fooling themselves.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Bergstrom was the third strongest O linemen at the combine.
32 reps….
April 27th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Again, I find it hard to believe that a 26 yo ZBS OG is the best player available. Btw, I’m not the only one. Kiper and Mayock had other players listed in their BPA list, and the 26 yo OG wasn’t on it.
GMs don’t make mistakes!! LMAO
April 27th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
It’s not about agreeing with everything bruh. The man made one damn pick, I hated him letting Mike Bush go. I still don’t agree with that move but that doesn’t mean he cannot biuld a winner. We’ll never agree with evrything anyone does. It’s about what is the plan and can they execute it to the point of winning. That is all that matters, we fans are way too involved with all this stuff when to be honest very few really understand the process.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
133,I dont care what You think about anything, but stfu about what I believe in, cuz You have some NUTTY opinions,IMO
April 27th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
As long as Bergstrom can make Cooper disappear, I don’t care how many wives he has…
April 27th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
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Agreed Duck, just sayin. The politicians in Utah and Arizona sure seem to look the other way as far as enforcing any laws. I could care less, if you want more than one wife you are an IDIOT anyway. IMHO
April 27th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Again, I find it hard to believe that a 26 yo ZBS OG is the best player available. Btw, I’m not the only one. Kiper and Mayock had other players listed in their BPA list, and the 26 yo OG wasn’t on it.
GMs don’t make mistakes!! LMAO
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If they were gonna go O-line they should’ve gone with Bobby Massie of Mississippi…dude was ranked 44th overall on Mike Maycoks Top 100!!
One thing is for sure…Tony was not on his Top 200!!
How about Philip Blake from Baylor or Brewster??
April 27th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
BHP,
I missed our debates. It’s great to have you back.
You are right. I’m not involved in the Org, so I don’t know the plan, but I do know the 26 yo ZBS OG is not the BPA……period.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Well I guess we see the value of a “true” NT.
About on par with the punter that Jax drafted.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I realize this comment is late but O says our pick wasn’t his BPA.O,that is why you are an unemployed used car salesman and Reggie and Allen are NFL a NLF GM & HC respectively.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
What a fuken wasted day I spent in front of the tube!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
It’s not about agreeing with everything bruh. The man made one damn pick, I hated him letting Mike Bush go. I still don’t agree with that move but that doesn’t mean he cannot biuld a winner. We’ll never agree with evrything anyone does. It’s about what is the plan and can they execute it to the point of winning. That is all that matters, we fans are way too involved with all this stuff when to be honest very few really understand the process.
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Couldn’t afford Mike Bush. We have about $39.95 left to sign our rookie pool. Mostly from dead money relating to shoddy scholarship contracts.
Reggie has his work cut out for him. We had a better roster last year at this point. Denver, KC and SD will be better than last year.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Where you at Riff??
You could have had me in the bag, lol!!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
I would draft Massie or Brewster over a 26 yo G.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
This dude nailed it:
Raiders Draft Preview: Tony Bergstrom
Apr 2nd, 2012 at 9:32 am by Chris ShellcroftDraft
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Jared Veldheer has quietly developed into a quality left tackle. Without all the hype that followed Robert Gallery, Veldheer’s journey from DIII football to collecting checks on Sundays is nothing short of amazing. While the Raiders did very well for themselves in unearthing and developing Veldheer they’ve found nothing but dead ends in the search for a legit right tackle.
Kahlif Barnes played very well last year, all things being considered. He played so well that the Raiders offered Barnes yet another one-year contract. In other words Reggie McKenzie is still in the market for a right tackle.
Entering his second season, Joe Barksdale will likely get a look during the preseason. After some mixed reviews as a rookie Barksdale will have to show serious improvement to move into the starting lineup.
With only a handful of late round picks the Raiders will have to do some digging to find another quality lineman in the Veldheer vein. Utah’s Tony Bergstrom isn’t the athlete Veldheer is but he’s been a solid starter for three years and he’s versatile enough to help improve any NFL team’s depth. Here is a quick analysis of this 3rd to 4th round prospect.
Tony Bergstrom, OT, Utah
Height: 6’5”
Weight: 313lbs
Strengths: Three year starter at right tackle. Good technique and very good in open space. Could play either tackle or guard at the next level. Might not become a legit starter but will be a solid rotational player. Did not allow a sack all season in 2011 which is impressive considering it was Utah’s first year of PAC-12 play.
Weaknesses: Recovering from knee surgery so health is a concern. An older prospect due to two-year religious mission prior to enrollment at Utah. Has good strength but doesn’t have much of a mean streak you’d like to see in NFL tackles. Might not have much potential for improvement.
Tags: Draft Preview, Featured, Jared Veldheer, Joseph Barksdale, Khalif Barnes, Reggie McKenzie,
April 27th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
More than one wiffe ? No!
more than one woman? Yes.
Marriage should be outlawed…unless, in this case, it helps Bergstrom go Alzedo on someone…
April 27th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
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Agreed Duck, just sayin. The politicians in Utah and Arizona sure seem to look the other way as far as enforcing any laws. I could care less, if you want more than one wife you are an IDIOT anyway. IMHO
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The problem with Colorado City and Short Creek is that the local politicians (Mayor, Police Chief, Sheriff, etc.) are all Jeffs’ minions. Truly dunging out his cult once and for all would involve sending in the National Guard, and nobody really wants to go that far. So they put their fingers in their ears and pretend it doesn’t exist.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Lefty12 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I realize this comment is late but O says our pick wasn’t his BPA.O,that is why you are an unemployed used car salesman and Reggie and Allen are NFL a NLF GM & HC respectively.
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I really like to debate with you, but comments like this make it really hard.
I’m not a car salesman, and I’m not unemployed.
So you are saying fans should not have opinions?!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
God, why does every topic have to descend into stupidity on this blog. Let’s see: let’s find all the players raised in any of a myriad of Baptist churches and wail on them for not being literate in science; let’s wail on any player raised Catholic and call him an “idol worshipper.”
Give it up. Calling people names shows your provincialness.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Wasbanned #105-
Maybe I’m mistaken but didn’t the donkeys run the ZBS when they seemed to be able to plug in any unknown rb that would bust off 1000+ yards. If that’s right I would say the ZBS can and will work! Trust in the Reggime! Defensive picks to come!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
you guys act like you have always loved ZBS.
I remember when this board was sick of just a few years ago.
guess I’m the only one brave enough to be consistent.
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I thought I was the only ZBS lover, but apparently there are a few other stragglers out there.
Kind of concerned about dudes age though. That Watkins guy for the Eagles was older and supposed to start right away, and he was a disaster last season.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Bergstrom was the third strongest O linemen at the combine.
Does that mean anything?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
AFC WEST 2012 RANKS according to BSPN
1. DONKS
2. KFC
3. DOLTS
4. the raiders
April 27th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
GForce21 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
wasbanned Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
you guys act like you have always loved ZBS.
I remember when this board was sick of just a few years ago.
guess I’m the only one brave enough to be consistent.
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Naw, not a big fan of ZBS. For one, McFadden plays better in a power offense. He struggled with the ZBS early on. I am skeptical about how well he is going to play in that offense.
Remember, Hugh asked Darren what he liked, he said power, and that is when he started looking like one of the best two backs in football.
Anyone who thinks DMAC is not the key to our season (offensively) is fooling themselves.
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I agree.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
His Age? Age?
How about his tiny T-REx arms that make Gallery look like Mr. Fantastic.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Where you at Riff??
You could have had me in the bag, lol!!!!
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You got that right Vegas.
What you thought though was what most people thought.
I guess travel is paying off for Riff although I doubt he learnt that in Paris.
Next time you make a bet with him, never agree to accept Euros.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Weaknesses: Recovering from knee surgery so health is a concern. An older prospect due to two-year religious mission prior to enrollment at Utah. Has good strength but doesn’t have much of a mean streak you’d like to see in NFL tackles. Might not have much potential for improvement.
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Yikes!!!!
I still have faith in The Reggie though, even if this dude flops.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
This was a late late 3rd round pick….were you guys expecting our savior? Best we could hope fore was a potential starter in a year or two….we got that.
On to the next late draft pick…..hopefully Reggie can mine some jems.
I’d rather have the best zone blocking lineman in the draft that someone that Reggie doesn’t think can help much at NT or LBer.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RaiderO Just try to digest this, The BPA is according the board in THIS org. Mayock and others don’t have one iota of a clue how the board is set up in this org. Just judging what he did based on their board you’ll just get confused.
Biulding a team is not a process of collecting talent according to overall talent evaluation. Biulding a team is very similar to putting a jigsaw puzzle together the pieces may not fit here that fit somewhere else. Hopefully that helps.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I rather have opinions and be wrong most of the time than be a follower who depends on other to form his opinions got him.
Lefty, when I want to hear your opinions, I will visit the Raiders’ site.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
R8eray Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
AFC WEST 2012 RANKS according to BSPN
1. DONKS
2. KFC
3. DOLTS
4. the raiders
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Who cares? Either we’ll finish better than that, in which case the prediction will be shown to be garbage, or we won’t, in which case the prediction is accurate and there’s nothing to get mad about.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Kirk Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Bergstrom was the third strongest O linemen at the combine.
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It’s a good pick Kirk. He’s going to fit right in with what McKenzie and Allen have planned.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
McFadden’s best career game? 2nd game of career in ZBS.
Best year of his career? 2010, when Cable was running his hybrid O-line scheme.
He will be fine. Never heard of a RB who couldn’t succeed in the ZBS.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Kirk Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Bergstrom was the third strongest O linemen at the combine.
Does that mean anything?
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It means the guy plugs away in the weight room and works hard. Add to that his football skills (as shown by his first team All Pac 12 status), and he’s this year’s version of Baby Wiz or Veldheer.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Chapman might be available in the 5th round, like I said.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
O,
We pretty much got a starting LG mayne.
The DT you wanted would have CERTAINLY been a backup
Wouldn’t you agree a starter at 95 is what we needed?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
@ 190, Maybe it means that Reggie, just like Kell, likes strong men??
Kell Singing Milly Vanilly’s Greatest Hits > the groan heard round the Raider Nation
April 27th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
I rather have opinions and be wrong most of the time than be a follower who depends on other to form his opinions got him.
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That is why I put up with your shenanagins and have you on the staff.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RaiderO Just try to digest this, The BPA is according the board in THIS org. Mayock and others don’t have one iota of a clue how the board is set up in this org. Just judging what he did based on their board you’ll just get confused.
Biulding a team is not a process of collecting talent according to overall talent evaluation. Biulding a team is very similar to putting a jigsaw puzzle together the pieces may not fit here that fit somewhere else. Hopefully that helps.
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I agree, and that’s why I said the BPA system is overrated (another line for the Media and Fans). The ORG will draft a player than they think fits their scheme/ plan, even I’d he is not the BPA (in general). He is the BPA for their plan/ scheme.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
PEACE!!!! I’M OUT!!!!!!!SMH!!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RaiderO Just try to digest this, The BPA is according the board in THIS org. Mayock and others don’t have one iota of a clue how the board is set up in this org. Just judging what he did based on their board you’ll just get confused.
Biulding a team is not a process of collecting talent according to overall talent evaluation. Biulding a team is very similar to putting a jigsaw puzzle together the pieces may not fit here that fit somewhere else. Hopefully that helps.
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So you are trying to convince people that different teams value different types of players. Wow, great insight.
The problem is this. Sometimes you draft players that fit a specific scheme. When it doesn’t succeed, the coach gets fired and the scheme changes rendering those scheme players obsolete. If its one thing we loooooove to do, its fire coaches.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Thx Vegas. LOL
April 27th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I don’t like the ZBS, but that could just be some residual Cable hate talking. If we are going to run it, I like the fact that we are drafting players and signing players to run it correctly. To have a coach and GM working together getting the players they want that fits their system = we are already ahead of where we have been the past 25 years.
Remember,when we ran the ZBS (and I cringed at first when I found out we were going back to it) Cable was giving Fargas the bulk of the carries, and we had no QB to keep the D honest. I am willing to see if it works this time around.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
JFB, are you ready to concede Savage is a backup at best?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Mormon pick for the Raaaaiders in the draft.
Mormon pick for prez in November.
good year for the weird undies bunch!
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Bwahahahahaha!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
to me the fact that mckenzie went OL instead of DL means he thinks Carson is our ticket to the big show. protect Carson and keep him on his feet for the next few years. If Palmer didn’t get his leg folded against the steelers years ago he probably would have a ring. now’s his chance
April 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Nobodies perfect there isn’t a GM alive who gets it all right. Reggie will have his share of flops like everyone else he just has to make sure he doesn’t get to many of them just like everyone else. This is an inexact science no one has the market cornered on this process no matter what anyone says.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
McFadden’s best career game? 2nd game of career in ZBS.
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Pretty partial to his game against Denver (59-14) and his game against the Jags (best single run of his career).
April 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Anyone have Bergstrom on the RRS list ? LOL
Wake up notice to our current LG and RT’s.
I’m down with Reggie.
Draft on.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
J Hill,
Sweet to have a new LG.
Reg def not bringing sexy back.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
J,
I’m not mad because they didn’t draft a DT, but I’m mad because I don’t think a 26 yo ZBS OG with short arms is the BPA.
I agree that we needed to draft a starter with that pick.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Like I said, I expect the goalline offense to improve with this move.
Wonder if this means Hurd and Parsons are sticking to the practice squad for now. Or maybe Parsons will be the backup center?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
easy to bench 32 times when your arms only move six inches…
April 27th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Lefty,
So your contribution to this chat is an ex used car salesman knows less about football than a current GM and HC?!?!
I’m impressed!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
GForce21 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Pretty partial to his game against Denver (59-14)…
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I was at that game….it was fking awesome. Just fking awesome I say!!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
easy to bench 32 times when your arms only move six inches…
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ROFLMAO
April 27th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
how many years does palmer have left? reggie needs starters to contribute day one. not developmental players. we can get a hoard of those as udfas. smart move regardless of position
next year i think reggie gets his aaron rodgers early in the draft to learn under palmer. lovin the way this is going so far
April 27th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Start O-Line
Veld
Bergstrom
Wiz
Breisel
Barksdale
Hurd and Parsons to 2nd string.
How long until Kell plays his racism card….???
April 27th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
GForce21 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Pretty partial to his game against Denver (59-14)…
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I was at that game….it was fking awesome. Just fking awesome I say!!!!
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Surprised you made it out of their house alive, they had to be enraged.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Wisniewski is definately our starting center now.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
It will be nice to have the Raider offensive line solidified before the Raiders have to find their QB of the future.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
J,
I’m not mad because they didn’t draft a DT, but I’m mad because I don’t think a 26 yo ZBS OG with short arms is the BPA.
I agree that we needed to draft a starter with that pick.
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O, Don’t get all hung up on arm length.
Dude HAS arms. An inch here or their is NOT a defining characteristic of a player.
Starting LG?
Plays for 5 to 10 years?
That works.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
So our OL is now
Veldheer-Bergstrom-Wiz-Brisiel-Barksdale (or Barnes)
With Carlisle, Barnes (or Barksdale), and a couple of cheap FA pickups as the backups.
Pretty good.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
I think it means he likes what he has on the Dline better than what he has on the Oline. I thought he would go for a LB when I saw the G I knew the coaches wanted more depth there first.
We as fans see things one way, they see things and sometimes it is a bit shocking. But you have to trust they know best or else you’ll go nuts!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Btw, I rather draft a RT to help the OL over an OG. Savage wasn’t the weakest link, it was Barnes.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Right Tackle still up in the air?
three way competition, Barnes & Barksdale front runners, with Bergstrom or another OL on the horizon?
would love to see the Raiders & Reggie trade with New England for Cannon!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
irjonny Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
to me the fact that mckenzie went OL instead of DL means he thinks Carson is our ticket to the big show. protect Carson and keep him on his feet for the next few years. If Palmer didn’t get his leg folded against the steelers years ago he probably would have a ring. now’s his chance
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You can’t have too many OL guys.
It’s all about the OL and the Raiders have a lot invested in Palmer.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
MC Grandmaster Flash sang about a white line…dman, Kell gonna have a fit.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
easy to bench 32 times when your arms only move six inches…
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Hardi har har.
A wide grip can make any arm length a movement of 6 inches on the bench press.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
O,pulling your chain.The player you consider the BPA isn’t what someone else might consider the BPA.It doesn’t mean either is wrong,it just means different people see things different ways.In 3-5 years we’ll know who is correct.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Let me remind You People. This G is not guaranteed a starting position. He has to earn it.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
YA how do you know they don’t think they have the QB of the future? That’sw hy you guys get so frustrated because YOU think you’re opinion counts……….it doesn’t.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
So our OL is now
Veldheer-Bergstrom-Wiz-Brisiel-Barksdale (or Barnes)
With Carlisle, Barnes (or Barksdale), and a couple of cheap FA pickups as the backups.
Pretty good.
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It’s getting there.
McKenzie said he thinks Carlisel can play LG.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
YA how do you know they don’t think they have the QB of the future? That’sw hy you guys get so frustrated because YOU think you’re opinion counts……….it doesn’t.
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Didn’t say that guy wasn’t already on the roster. But if he is, they have to find out what he’s capable of and how soon he’ll be able to take the lead.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
dline/lb next.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Also, I am not frustrated with the pick at all.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Lefty,
I know I’m an ex car salesman, and my opinions don’t mean much, but I’m not the only one who thinks a ZBS OG with short arms is NOT the BPA. Others who get paid well to evaluate talent agree with my opinion.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
GForce21 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
GForce21 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Pretty partial to his game against Denver (59-14)…
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I was at that game….it was fking awesome. Just fking awesome I say!!!!
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Surprised you made it out of their house alive, they had to be enraged.
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Pffft, Bronco fans only act tough when they win. Walking out of the last MNF game at Mile High, when it was 6 below and the Raiders lost on a last second FG by Elam (2000 I think) that was rough.
Walking out of the stadium after the Jano missed 2nd FG after the Ratface timeout…that was tough.
But the Bronco fans were in shock and fled the stadium with their tails between their legs in the 3rd quarter of the Massacre at Mile High (invesco). 59-14 and they were all crying like babies!
Last years opener, they were all just complaining about their QB….I started a Teblow chant after Orton’s first incomplete pass lol.
Denver fans are puzzies.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
irjonny Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
how many years does palmer have left?
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Everyone thinks Palmer is ancient. He is 32. The Browns just drafted someone who will be 29 (or close to) when the season starts. Rapistberger is 30, Eli is 31, Peyton is 36, Brady is 34, Vick is 31 etc.
Favre was a road guard for Moses during the red sea crossing and he just retired.
Palmer has plenty of good years left.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
for the 2012 draft Raiders have acquired:
1)Palmer = starter
2)Jones & Barksdale = backups
3)Pryor = back up
3c) Bergstrom = potential starting guard/backup tackle for Nnamdi Asomugha; it kind of reminds me of the 4th round choice we made for Randy Moss; I hope it turns out to be a great move for the Raiders
4)Campbell = starter no longer with team
5) ?
5c)?
6)?
7) Curry = starter
April 27th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Len,
Arm length is important for OL especially in pass protection. Why do you think Gallery was a bust?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
228.RaiderRetribution Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Wisniewski is definately our starting center now.
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Exactly.
And our O line played much better last year with Wisniewski at center.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
with Carlisle’s new contract and multiple years of experience, I think he will be the back up to both Brisiele and Bergstrom
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
(Reggie Mckenzie inhale) I think The Raiders got a good football player that loves the game & will compete every snap. I’d like to see us get a good football player tomorrow too. Maybe Cousins or Burfict if he’s available. (7 second pause)…Yeah that’s what i wanna see us do.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
I’m not going to lose sleep over the pick, but I don’t like it. I thought there were better players available that can help this team. you don’t have to start to have an impact on the team.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Lefty12 This hole BPA thing is so freakin subjective it’s ridiculous anyway. They speak of it as though it’s factual. It is based on the organization who puts it together not some talking head. He’s there to get ratings how does he know the BPA for every org.? It’s a load of crap!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
pryor is not and never will be the answer in my opinion. i don’t think he’s a reggie guy either. brett favre, aaron rodgers, terell pryor? nope. don’t get me wrong i hope i’m mistaked but it’s my thought mckenzie will draft early qb next year to be face of the future raiders. and we have a young o-line to welcome him
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Len,
Arm length is important for OL especially in pass protection. Why do you think Gallery was a bust?
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Arm length is more important for tackles….shouldn’t be much of an issue for a guard…that is why Gallery had some “success” at guard….if being average is a success.
Fking bust!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Whether you like this pick, or not, I think everyone here would be happy to see Cooper removed from the starting lineup…
April 27th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Len,
Arm length is important for OL especially in pass protection. Why do you think Gallery was a bust?
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Because he was a weak minded, injury prone btch?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
249.Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Len,
Arm length is important for OL especially in pass protection. Why do you think Gallery was a bust?
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It’s not so important for a guard.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
also if you think there were “better” players available at 95, who says reggie doesn’t trade up to pick them tomorrow? mature ZB O-lineman i’m ok with
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
You people decided our rookie OG is a starter?!?! Based on what? His draft status?! He was the last pick in the 3rd round! He has to earn it. Savage played well last season.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
The guy is going to play guard.His ’short arms’ won’t matter in the inside.Quit hating on the guy because he isn’t the person you wanted us to pick.Look at it this way-nobody else predicted he’d be the choice,so you weren’t that wrong.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Kirk Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
228.RaiderRetribution Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Wisniewski is definately our starting center now.
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Exactly.
And our O line played much better last year with Wisniewski at center.
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much stronger as well, and now with the strength and and ZBS abilities of Bergstrom Raiders interior line of Wisniewski, Brisiel, & Bergstrom will be the strongest in the NFL.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
GForce21 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
irjonny Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
how many years does palmer have left?
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Everyone thinks Palmer is ancient. He is 32.
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Wasn’t Gannon about 35 when he first came to the Raiders?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
My hope was that Raiders would draft Wilson, QB or Kendricks, LB but I knew neither would be there at #95.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I am not going to annoint the rookie as a starter yet….I have wanted Carlisle gone for a couple of years, and he still manages to keep his job, so I won’t count him out….but next year might be a different story.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I for one own a replica Joseph Smith hat, I looked in it and I was instructed Cooper Carlisle is always pushed 2 yards into the backfield and most plays and that Reggie wants T-Rex2.0 to replace him…That’s what I’m basing my theory on.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
I think Reggie looked at our team and decided we desperately needed depth at O line.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
GForce21 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
irjonny Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
how many years does palmer have left?
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Everyone thinks Palmer is ancient. He is 32.
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Wasn’t Gannon about 35 when he first came to the Raiders?
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Ah yeah, good on ya, way better point than what I was making.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
If any of yall put about one tenth the work into the draft process that king Regginald did, love to hear what you think. For the rest of us who just go from what mayock or keiper say…let’s just wait and see
April 27th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Bergstrom did well at guard in the Senior Bowl.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Palmer has 4 good years left, and could play even longer depending on health.
Plenty of time to secure his successor.
TP will get a look since he is cheap for a 3rd stringer…..we will sign a proven backup before camp.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
That includes any one who saw this cat play a game
April 27th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Post 245, O Youre thinking of Gallery,He had short arms as a tackle,He was moved inside and did a heck of a job as LG, lets give the guy a RAIDER welcome, bet ya Reggie is right. We will see.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
irjonny Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
also if you think there were “better” players available at 95, who says reggie doesn’t trade up to pick them tomorrow? mature ZB O-lineman i’m ok with
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true, and Reggie was not able to trade up using our 95th pick;
last year pundits were down on Wisniewski before the draft Raiders had one of the best rookie OL in the draft, most productive with the exception of T. Smith of Dallas.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Who is hating on the guy? Grow up man!! I’m saying I don’t think he was the BPA, but you confuse that with hate?! Really?
I wish the young man nothing but the best, but I don’t think he was the best pick for us.
I’m sure you can understand that. They call it forming opinions!
If you keep it up, I will start ignoring your posts. You are starting to sound like KK and MR.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Another point here is that Reggie is employing a no knuckleheads policy.
Something we have sorely needed in the past…
April 27th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
BERGSTROM? REALLY? DONT GET ME WRONG,HAVING SOLID BACK UPS AT OUR O LINE IS GOOD BUT I THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE PICKED HIM UP WAY LATER IN THE DRAFT (5TH ROUND). OUR DEFENSE NEEDS ALL THE HELP WE COULD GET. WHAT DO WE DO WITH BARKSDALE NOW? I WOULD TAKE BARKS ANY DAY OVER THIS DUDE.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@ englandraider
just saying he’s not young. reggie has plans i would think to use palmer to teach another bright young prospect like he did with rodgers. makes sense to me.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
R4, Barksdale is a tackle, Bergstrom’s a guard.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
They’ve made it quite clear they liked their D-lineman
April 27th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Hendu,
I hope so.
RAIDERS!!!
April 27th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
I hear you Priest.If everyone thought the same and had the same players as their BPA,all the clowns who predict the draft would say the same things and all the teams would know exactly who everyone else would pick.Davis,Kiper,Mayock,and Todd M.all differ on almost every pick,just as every GM does.
April 27th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
I GET IT KIRK BUT DIDNT WE JUST PICK UP A GUARD?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
at least we didn’t pick a punter in the 3rd
April 27th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RaiderO Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning……LOL
April 27th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I was a little angry before but I really don’t know much about him. I don’t mean to be a downer but everyone blindly defending this pick imagine if one of our rivals took him. What would you guys being saying about him then? Would he be a “huge reach” like derek wolfe for the broncos or Donald Stephenson for the Chiefs was?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
DOES ANY ONE KNOW WHAT ROUND THIS KID WAS PROJECTED BEING DRAFTED?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Guy
i bash every pick they make haha!! we should be defending our pick. reggie has a year to make a doubter out of me. i’m also confident in the pick because al didn’t make it
April 27th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
what about jacoby jones?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Right on, D all day tomorrow. Youre thoughts, O?
April 27th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
288.R41D8R41IF3 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
DOES ANY ONE KNOW WHAT ROUND THIS KID WAS PROJECTED BEING DRAFTED?
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2nd to 3rd round…
April 27th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Seeing that he should be a good fit for LG in a ZBS…if he pans out, i llike it…won’t have to touch OL for years. Would be nice to get stronger where you are weak…but might as well stay strong where you are strong…We’re going to have a young, solid unit for a long time. If they are solid, this will be such a nice luxury.
April 27th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RONNELL LEWIS NEWLY FOUND HEALTH ISSUES
DE/LB Ronnell Lewis Oklahoma has some potential/high risk or maybe actual problem with anemia, “sickle cell anemia trait” recently discovered. I’m not a doctor…but this kind of scares me. They say he “wears down late in games” and going to a 16 game pro schedule, he may be too big of a gamble
this info came from Pro Football Weekly early this week, apparently recently discovered issue.
YoungAmerican Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Amazed that Ronnell Lewis is lasting this long. Heard him mentioned as a potential 2nd round pick. Does he have some health issues I’m not aware of?
April 27th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
lefty12 Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
The guy is going to play guard.His ’short arms’ won’t matter in the inside.Quit hating on the guy because he isn’t the person you wanted us to pick.Look at it this way-nobody else predicted he’d be the choice,so you weren’t that wrong.
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I know many of us semis like to knock the beat writers but JERRY McDONALD in his SJ Mercury news article a couple days ago said the BERGSTROM WAS OL WHO FIT RAIDERS NEEDS/SCHEME he also listed one other, who he rated 2nd to Bergstrom, in South Dakota OG Tom Compton. So lets give Jerry Mac props
PFW rated Bergstrom projected 2nd to 3rd round pick
April 28th, 2012 at 3:33 am
ErboristeriaAlimenti Biologici…
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April 28th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Not opposed to the pick…. But I was suprised by it…..
If he makes the Raiders better is my bottom line…
April 28th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Is he willing to play on sundays? Didn’t Al draft some mormon years ago that said fk dt schyyyyt, I don’t play on sundays!
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No that was Walter Sobchak he told “that kraut a f’ing thousand times that He don’t roll on Shabbos!”
Lol
April 28th, 2012 at 6:47 am
洗面乳…
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April 28th, 2012 at 6:54 am
aig-raiders Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Kid is all pac 12, team capt, married and 26. guess we dont have to worry about him firing his gun at people when he goes home.
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Exactly. No reason why you can’t have speed, strength, AND character.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:23 am
rekla,ma opole…
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