ESPN: Raiders to sign Leinart
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, April 28th, 2012 at 7:39 am in Oakland Raiders.
Matt Leinart is coming to Oakland, likely as the backup quarterback, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
The move makes sense, given the Raiders’ depth at the position and Leinart having been in the Houston Texans’ system last season with current Oakland offensive coordinator Greg Knapp having been quarterbacks coach there last year.
It also makes sense because it’s way too early to tell if Terrelle Pryor, last year’s acquisition with a third-round supplemental pick, is anywhere close to being an option to back up Carson Palmer.
At the Raiders’ first voluntary minicamp, general manager Reggie McKenzie said it was important for Pryor to get some work to see how far along he is in terms of development.
During an interview with 95.7 The Game Friday, coach Dennis Allen deflected the question about Pryor’s standing as a potential backup, saying it was only important that he get better every day.
Given Pryor’s suspension upon signing last season and his arrival on the final day of training camp in Napa, he is essentially a rookie this season.
It lessens the likelihood that McKenzie will be looking for another quarterback Saturday with the final four selections of the Oakland draft.
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April 28th, 2012 at 7:42 am
TP!!!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Ono?
April 28th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Reggie is building depth on offense.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Make it happen Reggie
April 28th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Clearly Knapp loved the way Leinart made coffee. Cream, one sugar. Hired.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:48 am
No wonder we went o-line with our first pick. Stay healthy Carson!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:48 am
We all saw this coming a mile away.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:49 am
It was going to happen eventually.
Maybe TP will eventually be ready to be a #2 QB. Maybe even a #1. For now? He has to learn the ropes, and be pushed by a veteran. Handing him the job based on potential alone would be silly, to say the least.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Reggie not sold on Pryor, I like the move
April 28th, 2012 at 7:50 am
leinhart will fit knapps 5 yard hook offense fine…
April 28th, 2012 at 7:50 am
About the Bregstrom pick:
Good: You can never go wrong picking up OL that can play, the kid looks like a lock to play early and start for the next 6-8 years.
Now that’s some real value with the last pick in the 3rd Round, more like a 4th rounder actually.
Bregstrom has no baggage, no character issues and is a smart, hard-working player, but he’s not just an intangibles guy.
He’s also a good athlete, at 6′5 313 he’s a bit bigger than your traditional ZBS Guard and he can move.
The “bad”: Most of us were looking to take a chance on a player who could become difference-maker or play-maker if you will, taking an OG over some of the athletic TE’s, pass-rushing DE-OLB’s, run-stuffing DT-NT’s and explosive WR’s and DB’s available was not a sexy move.
But with no earlier picks, we needed to “make them count” as Reggie said, and it looks like we found a safe player and early contributor, one that is much more likely to succeed than most of the players that remained available.
Now if some of the guys drafted after Bergstrom turn out to become Pro Bowlers and he doesn’t, I won’t be upset because other teams can afford to go with the upside picks, they have already chosen 2,3 or 4 players by now, we didn’t have that luxury.
Solid pick, Veldheer-Bergstrom should handle the left side of the Line for the next few years and likely excel at it.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Good Move.. i like..
April 28th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Having Pyror as a backup to Palmer is the same as having Boller being a backup to Campbell. And we all know how that turned out.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Bcz24 Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Bergstrom isn’t going to start from day 1. He will learn the guard position from Coop and Brisiel for a year and will be the first guy in if any of our lineman get hurt.
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Homeboy better start!!! Dude is like 30 years old…we aint got time to wait!!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:56 am
This guy was playing well after he took over for Shaub last season… He got injured.. but i think its a good move.. Heisman trophy winner .. already knows knapp and his style.. i think we did just fine..
April 28th, 2012 at 7:59 am
It lessens the likelihood that McKenzie will be looking for another quarterback Saturday with the final four selections of the Oakland draft.
-Jerry
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It wouldn’t surprise me…it wouldn’t surprise me if we draft a WR and a TE too!
April 28th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Think cooper going to back up both guard spots. This pick is growing on me. Lie is stating to look solid. RT not to sure yet.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Today I aint sitting in front of the tube for hours…I’m TiVo-ing the thing!
Hopefully when I get back from a walk through I gotta do, I come back to something positive!
April 28th, 2012 at 8:02 am
I can’t recall seeing Leinart ever play well. When his name is mentioned all I see is a perplexed look on his face as he gets up from the ground or watches an opposing player run with the football he just tossed.
I hope he does well of course.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:03 am
BBL…stroke it easy guys!!
April 28th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Kenny Stabler my ass.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Bergstrom will start eventually, but do we really want him to start a MNF opener, if in reality one of the vets behind him is better at that stage.
I would look for him to play in all 16 games, and maybe have 7-8 starts.
But he will be infinitely times better than that slug Bruce Campbell.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:06 am
More on Tony Bergstrom, read carefully and you’ll love the guy:
- Good-sized, experienced, versatile, bump-and-steer blocker. Is best-suited at left guard in a zone scheme, although he possesses the smarts and versatility to serve as an emergency backup tackle.
Improved as a senior and reminds evaluators of former Ute and Broncos 2010 second-rounder Zane Beadles.
- Bergstrom is a tough, physical lineman who will likely kick inside to guard at the next level. However, he can bend, anchor on contact and shows enough short area quickness to mature into a solid NFL starter.
- Positives.
Good size for an NFL lineman with a powerful body.
Can win a battle with anyone in a phone booth.
Disciplined player who is very quick off the snap of the ball.
Does a good job sliding to the next level and finding his blocks in traffic.
Is a good finisher who never gives up on a play.
Does an excellent job keeping his hands inside on the defender even when caught off balance.
Shows very good leverage in both run and pass blocking keeping his hips low to the ground.
Explodes out of his stance with leverage and delivers a very powerful initial blow when run blocking.
Has the ability to take the defender completely out of the play.
Does a good job picking up the blitz and is powerful enough to just chip the blitzer and throw him off his course.
* Played the guard position at the Senior Bowl and performed well against some of the top prospects in this year’s draft.
Negatives.
Arms are a little short for an NFL tackle (no problem for us).
Has a very powerful body but could do a better job using his legs to drive defenders out of the box.
Is not fast enough pulling down the line and will have difficulty trying to block athletic linebackers down field.
Is a little slow coming backwards out of his stance, will need to shorten his steps to be an effective guard in a power blocking scheme or in pass protection. (no power blocking here).
Needs to improve on his footwork in pass protection.
Throws a powerful first punch but has a tendency to stop moving his feet after gaining the physical advantage over the defender in both the run and pass protection.
Also has a tendency to stand up too straight in pass protection leaving him susceptible to a bull rush.
Sometimes has trouble adjusting and re-setting after absorbing a strong initial punch from a defender.
* An overall tough player who doesn’t have the athletic ability to play tackle in the NFL but could be a starting guard with some improvement in his footwork.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:06 am
This is not only a good move its a great move. Now when we start 6-2 and Palmer goes down for the year, I dont have to worry about my biggest nightmare of facing the reality of having Pryor take the keys to the offense to try to lead us into the playoffs.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Frank Alexander and Chapman still there.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Well…..welcome aboard if true
April 28th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Based on how fast round 3 went we should be picking just after 1 EST
April 28th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Leinart signing means TP will have some work to do to make the 53, IMO.
Obviously he should beat out Bomar, but what if he doesn’t? The Reggie didn’t pick him.
Not saying he WILL be cut, but he better just outplay Rhett so there is no reason to allow that to enter into The Reggie and DA’s mind.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Its good but Im hoping we sign a free agent from college. Its time for the raider nation to have our own young franchise guy not continue retreads. Go raiders and reggie your doing great with what hand you ve been dealt.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Quite a few good players left on the board. Excited to see how today shakes out. Interested to see what kind of defensive players the Raiders are going to target.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Improved as a senior and reminds evaluators of former Ute and Broncos 2010 second-rounder Zane Beadles.
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That dude Beadles blows!!!!
We were pushing him around last year like he was Michelle Beadles.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Vegas we sure as hell don’t want carlisle starting MNF
April 28th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Good move getting Leinhart…veteran back-up who knows the system we’ll be using on O…Not starter material but a decent back-up…TP is far too raw to be thrown to the wolves…Leinhart signing takes pressure off of him so we can try to develop him at a proper pace.
Like the Bergstrom pick though I was expecting a defensive player at #95 like almost everyone else…Combined with the Biesel(?) pickup and our hopes for Barksdale, our O-line is a lot better on paper than last year. Other than that, I’ve found the draft a monumental bore…Guess not picking for so long will do that.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:10 am
A bit from the national football post scout Wes Bunting at the Senior Bowl:
Stock on the rise:
Tony Bergstrom:
“I wasn’t a big fan of Bergstrom coming into the game.
However, watching him at guard this week, I thought he did a nice job sinking his hips and extending his arms into contact, while displaying the anchor and fluidity to mirror.
He was one of the best blockers on the North squad and looks like a potential starting caliber guard to me.”
April 28th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Vegas we sure as hell don’t want carlisle starting MNF
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Why not, it worked last year.
I don’t think Coop has much left in the tank and will retire at the end of the year.
But I find it highly unlikely a rookie playing a new position for his first time, will be better week 1 than someone who was played 80 straight games in a row there.
Week 10, different story.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Don’t forget that many were saying Wiz II wasn’t strong enough before last year’s draft…Nits.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Que.. im soryy man.. but give me a frigging break..when was the last time the Raidrs drafted a great QB??.. im glad we got Leinart..
April 28th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Id rather take Alameda Ta’amu than Chapman…but will be happy with either….need a NT bad as well as a RDE
April 28th, 2012 at 8:15 am
The thing I like the most about this Bergstrom dude is that he’s not just a high-character overachiever.
The guy clearly has great size and more than enough mobility for the ZBS, some kids have the size but can’t move, others can move but are smaller, Bergstrom gives you both.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Played in the same system in college. Think he could take starting job week one, but may the best man win. Competition makes everyone better. Still think we take a big nt dude from Baylor. He was manhandling people at senior bowl. 4-3 or 3-4 DT.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Why? Vegas cuz CARLISLE sucks and is a p-ssy….sick of seeing him
April 28th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Hellsbells….I can dig ole dude from Baylor as our NT….for so many years Al wouldn’t properly address the NT position in draft and its hurt us very bad
April 28th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Took paycut to be backup.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Raiders pick next??
April 28th, 2012 at 8:20 am
A bit of nasty is always good in a hog.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:21 am
For those interested, NFL.com video highlights of our new Guard.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d828b1221/article/raiders...
And this is an interesting stat from M. poole article.
The flashiest aspect of Bergstrom’s resume — and a statistic that surely caught the eyes of McKenzie and the coaching staff — is this: 150 knockdowns, resulting in 41 touchdowns, during his 48-game career.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:22 am
If we go rde do not think we take a NT. think Houston will kick into inside rotation. That is like a two for one. Still would like to get a NT.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I like Reggie McRibzie going after the trenches with Bergstrom….time to get a RT….hope Barksdale is ready
April 28th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Hells……Houston is a UT tho I think….Saeymour gonna play NT again….time for Kelly to be sent the fk on
April 28th, 2012 at 8:25 am
I think it was Young American who made this point last night.
KC got DT Dontario Poe, SD got Kendall Reyes and Denver got DT Derek Wolfe.
We countered with OG Tony Bergstrom.
Nice move, it all starts with your Division.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Ill be back a lil later….y’all stay cool
April 28th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Cuz YoungAmerican= smart football mind
April 28th, 2012 at 8:26 am
#48: If Barksdale’s ready our O-line will be a lot stronger than last year. Got sick of seeing Coop and Satele getting man-handled by bigger D-linemen.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Agree Houston is a ut, but don’t know if we will draft a DT with the numbers we would have on the roster. No value for Kelly now, unless we get future picks for him, players have no trade vaue any more.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:30 am
“Got sick of seeing Coop and Satele getting man-handled by bigger D-linemen.”
The system wasn’t the best fit for them, but didn’t we finish in the top 10 or 5 in rushing yards with those two getting “man-handled” in the middle?.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Like what the rams are doing, just because I hate the niners.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Ghostraiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Que.. im soryy man.. but give me a frigging break..when was the last time the Raidrs drafted a great QB??.. im glad we got Leinart..
Im glad to but, I still am waiting for the day we have our own developed qb and Its Reggie now not Rest in Peace AL Davis. Its a new program everyday
April 28th, 2012 at 8:32 am
55.. lol.. classic!!..
April 28th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Reggie Max Board is different than other teams boards…Duh!
Most analysts/journalists are wrong…Duh!
Third rounders don’t usually start…Duh!
QB/RB are now safer because of the pic…Duh!
Everyone in the league thinks our D line is the strongest part of our D…Duh!
I was wrong with my pic… Duh!
April 28th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Little guys get manhandled more in the passing game, pocket getting collapsed by bigger DTs.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:33 am
#55: Yes Marley but those two did tend to get stuffed in critical short-yardage situations. They did both play hard and give their all for us but power is nice…even in a ZBS.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:35 am
So far, it’s not easy to gauge how RegMac is going to turn out. The majority of the FAs he brought in seem more than stop-plug fill-in the holes types. He let go better than average players, yes, considering the financial swamp he came into, and possibly with a strong directive from Markie to save cash, and get not only into the modern, but profit world.
Drafting an OL player, and going away from all predictable “need” in the defensive side, RegMac is not only setting his imprint, as Monte Poole writes, but also showing he is not listening to “expert bloggers” or 17-year “insiders” like Corky.
IMHO and wishful thinking, RegMac is building for the future and wouldn’t care much for immediate success this season. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Raiders at 5-11 or 6-10, and get positioned for the 2013 draft and season with mostly a roster designed and built RegMac’s way.
Seeing most of the SC quarterbacks play since their HS days down here in SoCal, I can’t believe when I see Matt Leinart with so little success and bust, when he was projected to be a better pro than Palmer, Cassell, or Sanchez.
Did he fall into a bad situation in AZ? Was he unlucky or just too fragile?
I’ve never been a Palmer fan, and was hoping that Hue would have traded for him instead of Palmer last season. At least, it would have been a lot cheaper.
So here it is, what if Leinart outplays Palmer in camp? Then again, I’m really hoping that Terrell Pryor proves everyone wrong and becomes the QB and stud player he was projected to be. Remember, TP at one time in his young career was the highest rated player of his class.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:35 am
#60: And we all should be able to recall them getting bull-rushed back into the backfield on passing plays.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Que… look who we have picked over the years at the Qb Position…
Rusty Hilger
Marc Wilson
Todd Marijuanavich(Marinovich)
Jamarcus Russell
Steve Buerline
Tuiasasopo
Im sure im missing many other… I cant believe that Beurline was the only guy who was only AVG at the position.. the rest really sucked!!
April 28th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Well, bottom lin is we’ve improved interior OL with RG Brisiel, Wis at C and Bergstrom-Carslile.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:36 am
I am s gla theal Davis years are over. That took too long and my liver felt it. Next year, just think…we might have 7 draft picks like a regular team! And won’t mortgage our future on guys like prior and Taiwan jones
April 28th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Zopi offense will roll, defense will be better, 8-8 last year, why so negative?
April 28th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I agree bob…that’s what it comes down to. If this guy makes the team…that is a good sign as he was basically a fourth round pick
April 28th, 2012 at 8:37 am
#65: Agreed.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:38 am
I wonder how long Lamar Miller’s gonna last. He’d be a hellova back-up to McFadden. The fact that he’s still there is pretty amazing.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:39 am
70 heard he has bad knees, that is hy he slid.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I am looking at the Kheeston Randle kid from Texas with our next pick.
Can play 4-3 or 3-4, and is also a high-character player.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Pryoy might not make the 53????
WOW!
Carlisle is a MNF starter though???
CMON!
April 28th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Miller has character red-flags as well.
Kind of curious of the timing of the announcement of Leinart. We could have had him signed in that camp last week with the playbook and everything.
With them waiting until after their 3rd round pick, makes me think there was some consideration to draft a QB at that spot.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:42 am
ghostraiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Que… look who we have picked over the years at the Qb Position…
Rusty Hilger
Marc Wilson
Todd Marijuanavich(Marinovich)
Jamarcus Russell
Steve Buerline
Tuiasasopo
Im sure im missing many other… I cant believe that Beurline was the only guy who was only AVG at the position.. the rest really sucked!!
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The reason is that we judged the players almost entirely on their “measurables”.
The QB position relies the most out of any position of a student of the game, hard working, smart, quick thinking and reacting etc.
Footwork, extra time put in etc. normally helps determine the success of the QB. Obviously they need to to be solid overall, but the strongest arm does not = the best QB.
We coached up enough “fast” CBs that some of them turned out well. Normally took our players a few years to make average and a few more to be great if they ever turned out great (see Aso as an example), maybe DHB after 4 years will go into “solid”.
More projects taken, key attributes being height, weight, speed – thus worst position to base that solely on is QB (see Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russel etc.)
April 28th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Let’s see, Boller vrs. Leinert. Leinert in a flash. Has Palmer to help him regain his b@lls. lol
April 28th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Tui being the obvious exception fitting the Gruden mold (More like Gannon)
April 28th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Maybe we were looking at the kid from ASU.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Time for lunch, a quick grocery run (I hope) then deck beers…Warm sunny day up here…I’ll check tomorrow to see who else we pick…Peace out.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:44 am
J,
You saying that if Leinart is signed as the primary backup, and Bomar outplays TP in the preseason and camp, you think TP is still a lock for the 53?
Not at all. He needs to play well in the preseason, to fight for his NFL career.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Next we trade for Sanchez and we have 3 USC Heismans. LMFAO
April 28th, 2012 at 8:44 am
JFB..
Getting high character guys who LOVE playing football.. Thats Mckenzies motto.. as oppose to guys who run like the wind no matter if they played great in college..
April 28th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I like a S with the next pick.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Bomar is garbage.
Palmer, Leinart and Pryor give us a top starter, a decent back-up with some Plunkett-like potential and a 22 year old kid to develop.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I think we need a Solid CB.. Does anybody know about who our new CBs are?? The only guy i like that shows promise is chimdi chekwa..
April 28th, 2012 at 8:48 am
hellsbells Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 8:39 am
70 heard he has bad knees, that is hy he slid.
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Hells Bells! I didn’t know that. He was a beast at Miami. Probably the only player that was a real threat on that team.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Orson Charles, Emmanuel Acho, Malik Jackson, Ron Brooks and Trevor Guyton are the guys I liked that remain available.
Marcus Forstson, Chigbo Anunoboy, Charles Deas, Tauren Poole, Bryce Brown, Derek Carrier for the late rounds.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Let’s be real here. From the look of it Prayor is not gonna cut it as a QB in NFL. Before its too late isn’t it best for the team and kid to switch him to TE now?
I’m way more comfortable w Leinert as backup than Boller. Hue displayed nepotism giving that job to his buddy Biller last year.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Pryor might very well be battling to stay on the roster. For the past year and a half the coaches have been saying the same thing about him in the politest way possible. He isnt close to ready for the NFL. He was a Al pick, and Al was reaching. Nobody on that staff would of touched him and now he is going to have to battle for the #3 spot. It will be interesting to see what he’s got during the preseason.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:52 am
“Let’s be real here. From the look of it Prayor is not gonna cut it as a QB in NFL.”
Even if he doesn’t, no reason he can’t be used in the Brad Smith wild-card role.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:52 am
What are you draft experts predicting today?
I’m sure you have analyzed every player still on the board…lmao
YoungLibtard, your up first lets hear your precision draft analysis.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:52 am
I have never seen TP or Bomar play at the NFL, neither has anyone else really, so I will wait and see them play before I draw any comparisions.
All I am saying, is TP better outplay someone in camp, and not be the #4 QB, because he than may become the #3 TE.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Leinart’s health is a big concern, he got his shot last year and he lasted one half of football before going down thanks to his lack of mobility
April 28th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Mista.
What’s wrong with killing some time playing GM?.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Josina Anderson (ESPN) is a piece of A$$.
The end
April 28th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Nothing at all Bob.
I enjoy the show
April 28th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Leinart got hurt on a screen pass.
Wasn’t a mobility issue, although he is not that mobile.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Mista.
Just wait until next year when we have a 1st rounder…lol.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Not wanting to get leinart beacause he’s injury prone is nonsense.. Im glad we got him.. I think hes going to do just fine with us..
April 28th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Maybe we can trade for Sanchez too!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Josina Anderson (ESPN) is a piece of A$$.
The end
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Josina aaight, but I like the new first take girl Charissa Thompson, turns out she went to school at ucsb while i was going there….never saw her but then again there was so much hot tail making her unnoticeable
April 28th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Bob Marley Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 8:15 am
The thing I like the most about this Bergstrom dude is that he’s not just a high-character overachiever.
The guy clearly has great size and more than enough mobility for the ZBS, some kids have the size but can’t move, others can move but are smaller, Bergstrom gives you both.
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This is exactly right. Bergstrom is big and athletic. Played well against better competition and played very well at the Senior Bowl, particularly in the practices. Very high character guy. Basically everything you want, and an excellent start to the RM regime.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am
My only problem with this move is that Leinart is terrible.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I read an article last year that said Leinart really started taking his profession more seriously once Az let him go. Lots of time at the facility, studying etc.
Certainly a better backup than Boeller.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am
PeymourGlenn, did you see all the Browns fans in here yesterday?
Nows your chance to call them all out…
lmao
April 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I believe we are the only team that has two heisman trophy winners… both TROJANS TOO!!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:04 am
I remember when we had a 1st rounder and Calvin Johnson & A Peterson were available and didn’t get selected. Thats when I checked out of the draft.
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Bob Marley Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Mista.
Just wait until next year when we have a 1st rounder…lol.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Not wanting to get leinart beacause he’s injury prone is nonsense.. Im glad we got him.. I think hes going to do just fine with us..
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Oh I wanted him all along…look at my eralier posts, just sayin, his health is a concern, but for what its worth, I dont think his maturity is a concern any longer like it was when he was in az
April 28th, 2012 at 9:04 am
alzadoX Says:
April 27th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
JERRY MAC RIGHT AGAIN
I know many of us semis like to knock the beat writers but JERRY McDONALD in his SJ Mercury news article a couple days ago said that BERGSTROM WAS OL WHO FIT RAIDERS NEEDS/SCHEME he also listed one other, who he rated 2nd to Bergstrom, in South Dakota OG Tom Compton. So lets give Jerry Mac props
PFW rated Bergstrom projected 2nd to 3rd round pick
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SD in the house!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:05 am
No surprise here….good move…need a veteran and an upgrade over boller, not much but an upgrade regardless.
Wasn’t gonna draft a QB this year anyway.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:05 am
I’d trade Leinart and Palmer for Sanchez, any day. Let them be Teabag’s caddies.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Ghostraiders,
Im with ya all the way, even though I was a steve buerline fan lol. He got in Al dog house plus he wasnt the deep ball thrower. All Im saying is we havent seen what reggie can do when it comes to picking a Qb. The past is the past. Go raiders forever. I liked Leinart coming out but he has to prove he isnt soft
April 28th, 2012 at 9:06 am
MistaBrown Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am
PeymourGlenn, did you see all the Browns fans in here yesterday?
Nows your chance to call them all out…
lmao
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You must have been in Dawg heaven. Were you wearing one of those stupid “dawg” masks when the Cleveland Clowns made their lst selection?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Now that Leinart is aboard, Raiderettes better take watch out, lmao
April 28th, 2012 at 9:06 am
PeymourGlen, thats exactly right! LOL
We all remember your draft analysis when JaMeatloaf was selected, thats exactly right!
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Seymour Bush Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Bob Marley Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 8:15 am
The thing I like the most about this Bergstrom dude is that he’s not just a high-character overachiever.
The guy clearly has great size and more than enough mobility for the ZBS, some kids have the size but can’t move, others can move but are smaller, Bergstrom gives you both.
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This is exactly right.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Pryor isn’t getting cut, JFB!
WR or TE switch will happen before he gets cut.
Why r u so quick to think it was Pryor who sparked the Leinart signin as opposed to Rhett stinking up the joint?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:07 am
MistaBrown Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am
PeymourGlenn, did you see all the Browns fans in here yesterday?
Nows your chance to call them all out…
lmao
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I’d rather have GoCong over our current MLB in a heartbeat.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Wow
I thought if Alameda was there – he was going to Alameda… However I did not know that Bergstrom was going to be there that late. I mean he is the best interior OL for a zone blocking scheme in the draft! I knew at some point we needed to go center or guard for depth but having that guy fall to us is really good. I thought he would not be there. Late second or early third round pick. I wish we could move up to get Alameda would be an upgrade from Henderson.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Who will be at the Raiders table? Al’s brother still?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:11 am
112. Que.. i admit im a lil bias because i love the trojans.. but i hope he signs with us.. I watched him play at USC.. The guy needs a good running back.. which we have in dmac.. to take the pressure off. He needs a very good oline to protect him.. he had both at USC.. he’s not the most nimble guy in the world.. but he just needs to focus now.. forget the partying crap and get serious about playing in the NFL.. Im glad we got him.. he’s much better than Pryor.. right now anyway..
April 28th, 2012 at 9:11 am
It would be nice if they cue up the trojans theme song every time we get a first down next year…always hypes me up hearing it
April 28th, 2012 at 9:12 am
TP will be the backup. You People ….. We signed leinart! Leinart!!!!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:13 am
One thing I am liking about RM is that he is quiet he seems to come up with that stuff out of nowhere. For instance, if other ZBS teams thought we would go that way I am sure Indy’s phone would have been buzzing. I am sure he was high on Washington’s board as an ideal Guard prospect to protect RG3 among other teams. I bet they all calculated that RM was going DT or LB and that Bergstrom was safe until the 4th.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Garbagekowski drafted!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Why r u so quick to think it was Pryor who sparked the Leinart signin as opposed to Rhett stinking up the joint?
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I think it is pretty safe to say it was both not looking like a viable option at the backup gig.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Vegas,
OL Gino Gradkowski Bruce’s brother just got drafted by the Ravens.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:15 am
The Gradkowski’s are all-world athletes.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Raider o.. actually we hav’nt signed him yet.. but it looks good.. he’s comming to oaklan tofro a workout and says he plans on signing.. maybe he has a verbal agreement with reggie already..I hope..
April 28th, 2012 at 9:16 am
I think it is pretty safe to say it was both not looking like a viable option at the backup gig.
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I don’t think so. I think it has more to do with Rhett. If we needed someone to replace the backup (TP), I think we would have signed a better/ more capable QB.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:15 am
The Gradkowski’s are all-world athletes.
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LOL
That’s why they play OG and QB!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Having Leinart is not an indictment on Pryor. Pryor was and is and will be for at least this year a development project. RM has put in a QB coach and a character development person to help people like Pryor thrive in the NFL. Lienart already has a head start on where the offense is heading and can help Palmer and Pryor adapt. This is a good and expected move.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Thx Ghost.
You People are getting excited and calling him a backup and he is not even signed.
LMAO
April 28th, 2012 at 9:18 am
JFB where you at?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Come on Bhomar is a camp arm – he may have hopes and aspirations but that is what he is viewed as unless he pulls a Kurt Warner which is a 1/1000 occurrence.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Raider O, how’s it going?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Riff,
You were right. lol
Good morning brother. I’m feeling better today.
Draft Defense! We allowed 387 yards per game last season.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am
I forgot you were abroad Riff. Good evening.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Loved Goodell coming out from wherever he was to introduce Willie Brown with our pick and Willie finishing with a Go Raiders!….
April 28th, 2012 at 9:24 am
PeymourGlen, the point is you will not call them out you only pull this ignorant sh!t on me. Yu are a troll and a moron.
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Seymour Bush Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:06 am
You must have been in Dawg heaven. Were you wearing one of those stupid “dawg” masks when the Cleveland Clowns made their lst selection?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Willie Brown is all CLASS!!.. Im glad he’s a Raider.. The man is COOOOOL!! A GREAT Raider Hall of Famer.. We need more guys like him now..
April 28th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Riff nailed it, not many called OL, nice.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Redskins drafted another QB?! Cousins.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Ooff….the orange pony Broncos area having a good draft.
They got my guy in DT Derek Wolfe in Round 2, the Aztec RB Hillman and now they have one of the few CB’s I liked in Round 4 or 5 for Raiders in Omar Bolden. Ugh
McK former team Green Bay is having a good draft also. They have DE/OLB Perry, DT/NT Worthy and CB Hayward
April 28th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Rex Grossman SUCKS man!!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
DiKnight, still on J Lins jock ?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Panthers getting Ta’amu here, I bet.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Well, I wasnt right.
But I do appreciate JFB eating his crow with dignity. Of which he did in the previous posts.
But to be honest, his bet was rather what Reggie would do, not what he should do. I felt we should draft O-line and I called Corky a scrub for even suggeting a DB. Thats how the debate started.
What I actually thought Reggie would do was draft LB. So, in reality, both me and JFB were wrong and nobody would have won the bet.
But, I think its safe to say that while the bet was a draw, I did win the debate. My line of thinking is in line with that of a NFL GM, our GM. And Corky is in fact, just a guy with a blog.
I never would have taken JFB’s money. All I ask for is a bit of credibility now. I think Ie earned that. I was the one guy that said to draft O-line and Mcfadden20 had the nerve to say that nobody saw that coming even though he was there for the whole battle I had with JFB. Other than that, no love lost. Actually, much respect to you Raider O as you were the only one intelligent enough to read my reasoning for why I said draft an olineman and you actually changed your opinion rather than stubbornly sticking to it. You sir, were the second smartest member of the blog last nite and gained respect in my book.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Oh wow, there goes Alexander.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Has anybody taken Armond Armstead USC DT??.. that dude could be a beast!!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:29 am
And yes, its time to start stacking up on defense. D-line to learn from Seymore and help push his old ass out the door.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:30 am
103.rediaR Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:02 am
My only problem with this move is that Leinart is terrible.
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Now you’re just nit-picking.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Alexander gone now…
April 28th, 2012 at 9:32 am
I would like to see Massaquoi available for us.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Leinert is terrible. Let’s hope he doesn’t see the field and Pryor can step up
April 28th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Wow.. someone giving up a third round and a fifth round to pick next?? Is it al davis’s ghost??
April 28th, 2012 at 9:33 am
148.YoungAmerican Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Oh wow, there goes Alexander.
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Dang. I wanted that guy.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:34 am
i was hoping Martin would have available yesterday, after hearing what McK said, about good players he liked coming off the board in round 3, I think he was looking at Martin, Bequette and Thompson yesterday.
Bradham off the board!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Still holding out hope Chapman and /or Alameda are still there at 129
April 28th, 2012 at 9:34 am
bye turbin
April 28th, 2012 at 9:35 am
beach Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:32 am
I would like to see Massaquoi available for us
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He just might be.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:35 am
What a waste giving up our 3rd round pick for Pryor. Was that Al’s final “dumb” move?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:35 am
There will be some good players available. At what position? Who knows.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Pryor is whatever….Leinart I just don’t know mayne….gotta be better than Boller right?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Riff,
I thought you established credibility yesterday with good logic and a strong debate. Today was just the icing on the cake.
Thank you for the kind words.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Leinart played a couple good quarters for the Texans last season before he got hurt. But that’s the only good football I’ve ever seen him play.
Still, the Raiders need someone to push Pryor.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Kc guy was like where am I.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Ta’amu, Chapman, or Massaquoi!!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Boss01…….that’s right! Ta’amu or Chapman….let’s be ready for battle in the trenches
April 28th, 2012 at 9:37 am
KC just drafted Nick Millers clone…lol
April 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am
This whole team seems to be building around this ZBS.
If we change coaches and direction anytime soon…talk about a re-build.
Leinart seems to be on board BECAUSE OF his familiarity with Knapp and the whole ZBS. Same with Bergstrom.
This is what they call “All In”.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Fk kc
April 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I have no problem eating crow when served, part of taking chances.
We still got 4 or 5 more picks to drafts some DB’s, lol.
Didn’t really want to get too catty, but it does piss me off with the whole “I bet you never played argument”.
I watch and know a ton about baseball and I played Juco baseball, and my determination of whether someone knows anything about the game has nothing to do with whether they quit playing at 16 or 22 years old.
You either know what you are talking about or you don’t.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am
C Philip Blake to Denver.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Leinart knows the system. He will be a good film study guy to help TP and CP. He knows X’s and O’s.
He can command an offense and has shown mild leadership skills. He is accurate. And he’s cheap.
He’s a quality 3rd stringer IMO and I dont mind him as our backup either. Tho, I’d much rather we had Gradkowski back there but that is a whole nother issue.
Leinarts weaknesses are his arm strength and mobility. I dont care about arm strength. It has never won a SuperBowl. It is highly overrated. I care about accuracy.
I dont really care if a QB is mobile but he does have to understand moving in the pocket. Our line is strong enough to protect Leinart for a few quarters if need be and if the line is breaking down, well, we have as athletic a QB in Pryor that youre going to find so pick your poison. TP and Leinart compliment each other perfectly. They give us very different options at backup QB. If we are running the ball well while/if CP goes down, Leinart can run the gameplan fine and pass just enough to keep a defense honest. If the run is getting stuffed, roll out Pryor and let him run wild cause at that point, what do we have to lose?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raider O…..yes Massaqoui can come on thru to Alameda as well….let’s go be prepared for war!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I really do like the fact that no one’s excited about Leinart… It probably means he’s going to be really good with us.. lol!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Ta’amu, Chapman, or Massaquoi!!
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With those guys still on the board, id be working the phones to trade up if I were Reggie
April 28th, 2012 at 9:40 am
How many more picks to we pick?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Arm Strength is not overrated…..you don’t have to have a cannon but you gotta be able to make all the throws
April 28th, 2012 at 9:40 am
NEW!~ 04-18-12: PRYOR UNDER FIRE
Damned today with faint praise Pryor could be the latest Davis project rejected…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
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This is from 10 days ago and makes some valid points.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Didn’t really want to get too catty
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Meow!
I enjoy reading your posts.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Steelers have to take Ta’amu here, right?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:41 am
163.Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Pryor is whatever….Leinart I just don’t know mayne….gotta be better than Boller right?
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I think Todd Marinovich in his present state would be better than Boller.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:41 am
New he steelers would get him.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:41 am
174. It does make a certain sense
April 28th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Boss01….again another great post but will McRibzie do it?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Well there gos Ta’mu
April 28th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Damn…Steelers got Ta’amu
April 28th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Steelers got taammuummuu. Figures
April 28th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Fk the steelers…well Ta’amu you gotta get your ass whipped week 3….deal with it!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:43 am
B,
We are on the same page. Need a NT and a pass rusher capable of getting double digit sacks.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Personally? I don’t like Ta’amu as a pure NT. Pad level too high. Not exactly exceptional against double teams. But if anyone can coach him up, the Steelers can.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Ta’amu!!!!! Another reason to hate the Steelers!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Boss01….again another great post but will McRibzie do it?
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I was hoping he would, but Reggie is a man with a plan, I trust the dude more than I ever trusted AD
April 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Turbin gone
April 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Well Chapman or some other NT I hope….but I doubt it now…who knows what is on McRibzie’s mind?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
We’ll just sit there
April 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Taamu GONE!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
I like Ta’amu as a NT is 4-3 scheme. He can rush the passer too, so he is not a liability in passing situations.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Pryor was a wasted pick. Another Al Davis project that will never pan out.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Going DT USC.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:45 am
In*
April 28th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Mush, you need to work on your crow eating techniques.
Either you know what you are talking about or you don’t.
Just Win Baby.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:45 am
196. I do. we’re not plaing 3-4. No need for a nt.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:47 am
This is going to be a great blog when all you spoiled kids don’t get the NT Yall w ant for x.-mas
April 28th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Chapman and Mossaquoi still available. Cam Johnson still out there as well. Interesting.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Reg will take the bpa. We’re alittle thin at alomost every position.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:48 am
We need a pass rusher. Season on the line, and San Diego’s scrub line gave Rivers an hour to throw each pass.
Massaquoi or Kheeston
April 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Cam Johnson is a good pick too.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Jerrymcd:
No Alameda in Alameda _ Steelers take NT Ta’amu with pick they got from Redskins, who got it from Raiders for Jason Campbell. [via Twitter]
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Damn
April 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Boss01….well I’m an Al Davis lackey admittedly so I can’t roll with that completely but yes McRibzies has a plan and to fix our operation you need a damn good plan
April 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am
I say we get another O linemen
April 28th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Jerrymcd: No Alameda in Alameda _ Steelers take NT Ta’amu with pick they got from Redskins, who got it from Raiders for Jason Campbell
April 28th, 2012 at 9:50 am
OLB Terell Manning still available
April 28th, 2012 at 9:50 am
As far as the NT debate, I still think I have the corks from the champagne everyone was popping after we signed John Henderson.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Come on somebody fall o us please. Agreed need pass rusher off the end.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Vegas…exactly…jan 1st we didn’t even touch rivers
April 28th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Method, arm strength is way down my list of what I look for in a QB. This is in order of importance (give or take one or two posittions)…
Leadership
Work Ethic/Decision Making/Judgment
Accuracy
Clutch Factor
Durability
Moving in the Pocket
Quick Release
Mobility
Arm Strength
Size
etc
As you can see, I have it ranked at about 9th. Look at all the QB’s to ever have won a SuperBowl and what do you have in common? Those top 6 attributes were all their strongest traits. If they didnt have all 6, they had most of them.
You can win without arm strenght. Gannon didnt have a rocket arm. Stabler had a slow release. But the had the things that count in spades. We all loved the Gannon years. Lets not forget what made that guy the best weve ever had. The only thing Gannon lacked in my top 6 was durability.
Remember, Rice even said he felt Rich was better than Montana and Young. Food for thought.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Al was a shrewd operator.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Bob Marley Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 7:50 am
About the Bregstrom pick:
Good: You can never go wrong picking up OL that can play, the kid looks like a lock to play early and start for the next 6-8 years.
Now that’s some real value with the last pick in the 3rd Round, more like a 4th rounder actually.
Bregstrom has no baggage, no character issues and is a smart, hard-working player, but he’s not just an intangibles guy.
He’s also a good athlete, at 6′5 313 he’s a bit bigger than your traditional ZBS Guard and he can move.
The “bad”: Most of us were looking to take a chance on a player who could become difference-maker or play-maker if you will, taking an OG over some of the athletic TE’s, pass-rushing DE-OLB’s, run-stuffing DT-NT’s and explosive WR’s and DB’s available was not a sexy move.
But with no earlier picks, we needed to “make them count” as Reggie said, and it looks like we found a safe player and early contributor, one that is much more likely to succeed than most of the players that remained available.
Now if some of the guys drafted after Bergstrom turn out to become Pro Bowlers and he doesn’t, I won’t be upset because other teams can afford to go with the upside picks, they have already chosen 2,3 or 4 players by now, we didn’t have that luxury.
Solid pick, Veldheer-Bergstrom should handle the left side of the Line for the next few years and likely excel at it.
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Great post Bob.
I totally agree with you.
McKenzie didn’t pick the guy that I wanted but this is a solid pick and Bergstrom is probably going to give us years of play.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:52 am
One thing is for sure, Reggie is going to draft some FOOTBALL PLAYERS, physical dudes ready to play, im all in
April 28th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I trust Reggie, of course, but we have to go defense this next pick.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Well Chapman or some other NT I hope….but I doubt it now…who knows what is on McRibzie’s mind?
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What is on his mind is right now Draft picks are over priced and he is not going to mortgage our future by reaching in with next years picks at heavily discounted prices. Remember two of our picks remaining are not even tradable. I guess we did not have takers on Kelly if he was even offered. Maybe we wait till a DT is injured in camp somewhere and get the price that he is worth. Also remember we will not have our 2nd (upgradable to a first) next year either.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:52 am
JFB, I love your never say die attitude. HAHAHA. Swinging til the bitter end.
It’s all good bro. You owned up, you’re cool in my book.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Damn the Browns got the Benjamin kid from the U.
I thought he might be an UDFA option. He will make some plays in this league.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Boss01….well I’m an Al Davis lackey admittedly so I can’t roll with that completely but yes McRibzies has a plan and to fix our operation you need a damn good plan
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I respect the love for AD, but I kinda like that Reggie is gonna bring in tough dudes ready to play, no more projects or reaches
April 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am
219. 20-40 years ago.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Massies out.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am
DT Billy Wynn still available. He was a power lifter and wrestler in high school and some college.
Wynn could probably play a little DE in 3-4 looks as well.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I really don’t see a NT in the future. The Raiders aren’t going to a 3-4. If anything they will run a hybrid and throw in a little here and there. Which means people that can play multiple positions and not wasting picks on speacilty players.
And didn’t they recently sign Travis Ivey for their NT experiment?
April 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Ive watched this board for a long time but never participated because of all the flaming and trolling that goes on. I just want to talk intelligent football.
Since the mods have been cleaning up lately over the last month things have gotten much better around here.
Raider O and Bob Marley have always been two of my favorite blog members. Hell, usually JFB, youre on point too. There’s one other guy whos stuff I like reading too, his name is Ryan I think I cant remember.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Billy Wynn is a FOOTBALL player.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Actually John henderson was our best run defender in the middle in 2010 vegas raider and you know it….he was still better than kelly and Seymour combined vs the run and you know it…..and all of us NT pundits always wanted a young drafted NT…..Henderson is tougher abd better than that loser Carlisle can ever be……coop couldn’t lick his cleats as far as being a NFL starter over the course of their careers
April 28th, 2012 at 9:56 am
“I guess we couldn’t trade kelly”…Raiders are trading Kelly..Yall need need to let that go.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Leadership
Work ethic
Accuracy
Quick release / Arm strength
Mobility
Size
April 28th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Wow, Sensabaugh gone in round 4? Interesting.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:58 am
God Massaqoui gone? Dammit well where we gonna geet a real RDE now? Reggie please don’t have us go with Shaughnessy at RDE
April 28th, 2012 at 9:58 am
We are not going to play 3-4.. Its over. finally…
Bpa
April 28th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I’m sure it’s been mentioned but I just saw alameda was taken with our Jason Campbell pick… Ouch!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:59 am
I have heard this is a deep LB draft. If I had to predict we will go LB with our next pick. It is probably where the BPA is and is also an area of need. I do not think we have the leverage to go from 4/3 to 3/4 this year so NT is not a priority and we role with Ivy or a later round pick or UDFA there for now.
Just guessing. This guy is harder to figure out than AD was but so far I like his moves after the fact better.
April 28th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Ooff….the orange pony Broncos area having a good draft.
They got my guy in DT Derek Wolfe in Round 2, the Aztec RB Hillman and now they have one of the few CB’s I liked in Round 4 or 5 for Raiders in Omar Bolden. Ugh
McK former team Green Bay is having a good draft also. They have DE/OLB Perry, DT/NT Worthy and CB Hayward
April 28th, 2012 at 9:59 am
SharkCatcher fair enough…..and let it go that we will have a good run d in the middle….Seymour and Kelly are not gonna get it done
April 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Raider O, what do you think Manning and Brees and Rogers use more? Their ability to shuffle in the pocket or their armstrength?
I guarantee if you sat and watched a game just noting those two factors, you’d rank mobility one spot higher on your list. Those guys move in the pocket so perfectly.
You dont put “clutch factor” in your top 6? It’s hard to be one of the great ones without being able to take your team on a 2 minute drill. Size wont win games late in the 4th quarter.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
First good pick. I don’t know anything about the Kid but if the Raiders are starting over start building on both sides of trenches. Corners and safeties will adapt to the best schemes upfront and a good O-lineman is always a blessing.
Get it done Raider Nation!!!!!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
I hope we tak chapman with our 2 pick in the 5, or our 6rd.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Anyone else ant to punch trey wingo in his face?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:01 am
I respect the love for AD, but I kinda like that Reggie is gonna bring in tough dudes ready to play, no more projects or reaches
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I like how Reg is handling his rookie year at the draft. No flashy moves or trading away his players. Showing patience and planning for the future.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Yep.
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Hellsbells Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Anyone else ant to punch trey wingo in his face?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Armond Armstead???
April 28th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Draft for depth.
Trade FOR picks.
Sign FA’s to plug holes.
Build from the lineman out.
Pretty simple really.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I think the NFL is moving to a different game.
They have changed the rules and are going to change them some more so that may play into who Reggie drafts.
He may be building a different team then some of us are use to.
More scoring, more protecting the QB and WR. Telling D players they have to change the way they hit.
And I think we will see more rule changes to prevent concussions
April 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Niners just took a Looney. Great name for a jersey.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Just 11 more picks to go until the Raiders are on the clock.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Why wouldn’t you want Shaunessy at de …he has shown flashes of pro bowl potential ..what games are you watching?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Hope he is a but lol
April 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Brees is uncanny at finding passing lanes to throw through. Manipulating the pocket they call it.
Peyton just powers through the trees when he is in the pocket. He is a bigger dude than people think.
Brady and Rogers kind of shuffle around a little more (Tom not anymore but quite a bit years ago).
April 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am
YoungLibtard, who do you like with that pick ?
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YoungAmerican Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Just 11 more picks to go until the Raiders are on the clock.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Shaughnessy has the potential to be a VERY good player, but needs to show he can be consistent.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am
# hellsbells Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Anyone else ant to punch trey wingo in his face?
^^^^^^^^
Can’t stand that guy….one of the many reasons why I hate BSPN.
I avoid watching NFL Live, like it is the plague.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
I kinda like that the DT Jared Crick from Nebraska is still out there, had a pec injury that’s why he’s fallen this much, initially projected to be late 1st, early 2nd rounder
April 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Leinert? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Pryor sucks.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Im hoping for lewis lb..
April 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
MistaBrown Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am
YoungLibtard, who do you like with that pick ?
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Who do I like? Or who do I think it will be?
Lots of players I like still on the board, but I’m not into offering predictions.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Bust
April 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
I wonder what alter ego MR will adopt next. Everytime he gets banned he comes back like he has never been here before untill he is exposed again. (yawn)
April 28th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Trade DMAC, Condo and TP for Stu Schweigert
April 28th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Stupid Bengals, I love their Draft.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:06 am
QB’s size is overrated IMHO, but I think arm strength is important. You have to be able to throw and deliver the ball quick so defenses can’t make a play on it, and you need to be able to throw in cold/ Rain/ windy weather. I remember Rivers trying to pass against the wind vs NE in the AFC title game, and he couldn’t do it.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Shaughnessy is cool….but at RDE? Naw I like him at LDE with Houston sliding inside….sad this won’t happen
April 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DiKnight, I wanna punch you in the face just as much as Wingo.
Still on J Lin’s jock ?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Bo lmao
April 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Lewis would be a great pick if he’s still around. Terrell Manning, as well. Maybe Sammy Brown? Massaquoi, Meznie, Kaddu, Acho, Julian Miller, Cam Johnson, James-Michael-Johnson, Keenan Robinson, Miles Burris…
April 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am
f course not
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YoungAmerican Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Lots of players I like still on the board, but I’m not into offering predictions.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Plunketthead, you are correct.
That was kinda the problem with AD. He was so ahead of the curve sometimes that he outthunk himself and those around him. If you look at the way hes drafted and tried to build teams during our abismal last 20 years, he actually was ahead of things. But I think at times he was ahead too much, especially for his coaches and I think thats where a lot of the disputes came from and why they didnt want to do things his way. Gruden was the one guy that did do things Al’s way and only fought the winnable battles and that is why he succeeded.
Reggie isnt necessarily going to be more contemporary than AL, what he’s going to do different is that he will bring in coaches that are contemporary and they will request a certain type of player, and Reggie will go find them. Reggie isnt a trend setter, he’s simply an excellent judge of who can play. Dennis Allen has told him the system he wants to run and Reggie is finding guys to fit that system.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Big year for nasty. He needs to step up and get consistant. Get pressure way more often.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am
My pick Ladarius green is a charger…..we blew it!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Mista lol….stay killin em
April 28th, 2012 at 10:09 am
MB, you do realize there’s a distinct difference between me providing MY OWN big board, and what Reggie McKenzie’s is? Right?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Method, since we are the same guy you stay killin em too.
haha
April 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Is Fugger still around? Or NT from Baylor. Dude can play in the 4-3.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Massie OT is gone, not our Massaquoi.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Good job Washington! Bringing in controversy for absolutely no reason. Shanny is a megalomaniac!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Riff,
I think leadership and work ethic determines how you play in the clutch.
Are we talking about mobility or pocket awareness? I don’t think Manning is mobile, but he has great pocket awareness and a quick release. Rogers is a mobile QB and he has great pocket awareness. I think he is the best QB in the NFL.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:13 am
So did anyone on RRS’ list pick Bergstrom? He was my second choice lol
April 28th, 2012 at 10:13 am
YoungLibtard, you realize your board is something you wrote on toilet paper and Reggie’s board is an actual board? Right?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:14 am
go raiders go raiders go raiders go raiders go raiders go raiders go raiders go raiders
April 28th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Raider O…. Rivers has a strong arm and a quick release.
Anticipation is far more important than arm strength when trying to keep defenders from making a play.
Cutler has all the arm strength in the world but until he gets the other stuff figured out, he’s just another GM killer.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Manning not mobile? I seem to remember a certain TD gallop. He can if he needs to.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Method, remember when J Lin blew up for 3 games in his life and DiKnight was poking fun at the Warriors for releasing him? Now DiKnight is silent as a mouse.
Go figure!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I predicted an O linemen on the RRS list …still waiting for.my ” way to go shark catcher”
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
“Dennis Allen has told him the system he wants to run and Reggie is finding guys to fit that system.”
Reggie probaly knows what system he wants to run and he made sure Allen was on the same page before hiring him
And Al was never really ahead of the times in the past twenty years. He had trouble adjusting to free agency and being sidelined and then being off the field all together, but other then that you are right on the money.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
MistaBrown Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:13 am
YoungLibtard, you realize your board is something you wrote on toilet paper and Reggie’s board is an actual board? Right?
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Many of the players I have on my board went exactly where I thought they would. If you want to contribute ideas of your own and add to a conversation about football, feel free to do so. Otherwise I have no interest in your antics.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Riff.
Glad you decided to participate, already like your stuff.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:16 am
i hope we get Armstead.. he’s from sac town and the dude showed flashes of being a complete beast at usc..
April 28th, 2012 at 10:17 am
“antics”
lmao
April 28th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Dang, qweeefs picked up Devon Wylie. Remember that name
April 28th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Al knew football. The Giants are a great example. They won 2 SBs (recently) using his formula. 4 man rush, and they invest a lot in CBs and WRs.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Sanders from FSU is still there.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:18 am
There will be good football players available when Raiders pick soon.
DE Johnson
DT/DE Crick
DT Wynn
OLB R Lewis
NT Chapman
OLB/DE Mossaquio
OLB Manning
OLB T Lewis
CB J Norman
April 28th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Yes Raider O, there is a difference between pocket awareness and mobility. I wrote a nice post in response to JFB just now but it got deleted somehow after submitting.
mobility = vick, rogers, randall cunningham
pocket awareness/manipulation = manning, rogers, brees, etc.
manning is a great example. no mobility but can manipulate a pocket like nobodies business. and rogers is awesome to discuss as well because he can run with the best of them, but he uses his pocket awareness far more than his athleticism.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Way to go Shark. YOU WERE RIGHT!! YOU WIN!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:19 am
CooCooKell must not be done with his prune juice & oatmeal. Awaiting his arrival any minute now! C’mon Munster push yourself away from the table and get your blog on!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Young A,
Who you think McK targets with the next pick?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Wasn’t someone crying last night because we didn’t take the LB lewis?…..he is still on the board….guess other gms agreed with reggie on that one….
April 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am
The Nebraska CB remains available, 2nd-3rd round value, fighting off cops at a bar was dumb, but at least he’s no junkie.
Alfonzo Dennard.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:21 am
296. Ive posted his name.. He ran a 4.25 a couple yrs ago.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:21 am
LB NIGEL BRADHAM could be the pick at 134
April 28th, 2012 at 10:21 am
DKnight007 Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Young A,
Who you think McK targets with the next pick?
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Highest player on his board. Marvin Jones is still there, which amazes me.
Lots of good LBs left. Maybe that’ll be BPA.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:22 am
The Giants did follow Als formula pretty well. Thats why Gilbride was always a candidate.
But they have never paid their WRs or DBs. They draft em cause they keep losing them. They fill up stats due to their great dline and oline, but then the WR’s bolt for big money elsewhere and dont exactly light it up IMO.
Id say the Giants have a lot more invested in their lines than their exterior. But now we are just getting right back to last nights debate haha.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Lighting luck joint… This helps..
April 28th, 2012 at 10:22 am
It seems Cricks injuries are worrying teams about him.
I don’t think McK will take him
April 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I’m not a big fan of Crick.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
SharkCatcher Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
I predicted an O linemen on the RRS list …still waiting for.my ” way to go shark catcher”
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You only get that if you actually predicted Bergstrom LOL. Surprised to see him still avaialble – if not I bet I would have been right with Alameda because he fell as well and that was a need. Anyways good job because unlike many on board you at least saw OL as an area of need. Did you specifically say interior OL? ie center or guard??? or were you thinking more tackle?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Toons a good pick
April 28th, 2012 at 10:24 am
I liked Ron Brooks a lot, off to Buffalo.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:24 am
307. Isnt he long gone?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:24 am
# YoungAmerican Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:21 am
DKnight007 Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Young A,
Who you think McK targets with the next pick?
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Highest player on his board. Marvin Jones is still there, which amazes me.
Lots of good LBs left. Maybe that’ll be BPA.
^^^^^^^^
I was looking at Jones also.
However, this team needs best available at DE/OLB IMO
Jones could certainly qualify as BPA though when the pick comes up.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
CB – Boykin gone to eagles
April 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Son of Al Toon ?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DAMN if you ever grow up of being in NFL try for Wide Receiver every 4th or 5th pick is on the WR LOL
April 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
I think the giants will take a chance on armstead.. watch??
Dammit!!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Riff,
I don’t think Rivers has a strong arm. Strong enough to play in the NFL, but not the same strength as Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rogers IMO. I think that is one of the reasons for his lack of success in terms of winning a SB.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Hebron Fangupo NT/DT BYU
Josh Chapman NT/DT Alabama Knee
Ronnell Lewis DE/LB Oklahoma would be my top guy but medical questions don’t know where to put him
Miles Burris, LB, S.D. St.
Terrell Manning, LB, North Carolina St.
Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
Johnathan Massaquioi, DE, Troy St.
Sean Prater, CB, Iowa
April 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Cam Johnson > massaqoui
April 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Ronnel LEwis gone to DEtrioit
April 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am
There goes lewis.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am
R Lewis is gone
April 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Raider O, should I cite examples of athletes that didnt have leadership but were plenty clutch?
Clutch is something you are born with. You got it or you dont. Vick has always been a clutch guy, but he hasnt always worked hard.
Robert Horry was clutch, but never a leader.
Vinatieri is clutch, not a leader.
Jake Plummer was clutch. Was he ever really a leader or a hard worker?
Plenty of WR’s out there that are clutch. WR though is generally the position with the least amount of leadership characteristics.
Tony Romo is clutch and a hard worker (I know Im going to be in the minority here with that one) but he is far from a leader.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Well, I guess the Lions see Lewis as a DE. Same build as Avril. Interesting.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Winn?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am
i think reggie is going to draft a DT with pick #128.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Ronnell Lewis and CB Ron Brooks off board
Hebron Fangupo NT/DT BYU
Josh Chapman NT/DT Alabama Knee
Miles Burris, LB, S.D. St.
Terrell Manning, LB, North Carolina St.
Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
Johnathan Massaquioi, DE, Troy St.
Sean Prater, CB, Iowa
April 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
supapimp Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:27 am
i think reggie is going to draft a DT with pick #128.
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OR LB
April 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Tony Romeo is anything but clutch, if anything he is a leader but definitely not clutch
April 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
#129
April 28th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Looks like pick may come down to players like Jones, Winn, T Lewis, Johnson, T Manning, Chapman, maybe one of the CB’s.
Don’t want a CB in this round in draft though.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:29 am
CRick GOne hahahahahah
April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
There goes Crick
April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Maybe Mossaquio as well of course.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Riff,
Al was OLD school. He loved his players, and considered them family and not an investment. He was too involved emotionally to make the best decisions at times, but I liked his passion so I can’t complain.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Tank Carder still available???
April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Texans got Crick. Good system fit.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Draft Carlos Francis!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
My logic was that you have expect one of your linemen will go down for a few games or snaps so we needed one more big guy as insurance for Barnes, and the other fellas. good long offensive drives can help the defense too
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Josh Norman at CB or Massaquoi, please.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Reggie not biting on players that are damaged goods
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Josh Norman is indeed an interesting prospect.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
If you guys remember (or read about), the great Raider group of the 70’s main strength was the O-line.
Shell, Upshaw, Dalby, etc.
Of course the team was great all around, but without that dominant O-line you have to wonder how good that team would have really been.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
go raiders
April 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Really think we are going LB with this neck pick.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am
oh yea baby..
April 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am
defense for sure..
April 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I got goosebumps now, 2 more picks, Chapman still there
April 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Raider O Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Riff,
Al was OLD school. He loved his players, and considered them family and not an investment. He was too involved emotionally to make the best decisions at times, but I liked his passion so I can’t complain.
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100%!!!! His players were like his kids. He knew everything about them. What owner heckles reporters who have hall of fame votes about xplayers besides AD!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Draft Kheeston!!!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
O,
Cant pin the lack of SuperBowls on Rivers’ arm strength. Show me where arm strength was a major factor in any other SuperBowls.
Secondly, SB’s are team achievements. Rivers shouldnt be vilified for not having won one no less than Marino. Both guys are accurate, leaders, and tough. I love yelling insults at them but I gotta give them credit where it is due.
Rivers has all the tools to win one. He just needs a real head coach. I mean, c’mon, its Norm Turner. the guy freezes up come playoff time. Norv is the antithesis of clutch. He belongs upstairs, not on the sideline.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
TP will beat out lienart
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Brady was unreal in the pocket last years playoffs.
I never seen anyone move half steps and steps to avoid tackles like that staying in the pocket the entire team.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
DRAFT MCFADDEN!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
OK We’re ON CLOCK NOW YES BABY …
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
With AD you were not drafted you were adopted….
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
340.Raider O Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Riff,
Al was OLD school. He loved his players, and considered them family and not an investment. He was too involved emotionally to make the best decisions at times, but I liked his passion so I can’t complain.
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There’s been talk that Al would’ve made a move for Osi Umenyora if he were around for this draft.
I would have welcomed that as a GOOD thing.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:34 am
LETS SEE who does REG thinks can play
April 28th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Chapman may be damaged goods, torn ACL
April 28th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Chapman still out there?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Armstead Baby.. USC back to back picks?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Just said Chpman will be ready by training camp.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Dr James Andrew checked him out.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I will laugh if its burfict
April 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Thec Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
TP will beat out lienart
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Both will be on roster but specific wildcat plays will be created for TP to come into games – thats my prediction if we do indeed sign Lienart. Our new OC has worked with mobile QBs that can run before. Vick and Garcia to name two.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am
OK Pick already god damn it lol
April 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Of course bit#@ Ass.ESPN takes a commercial break when its our turn to pick..don’t know why o didn’t see that coming
April 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am
RAIDERS WIll take every 2nd to pick another starter . CODE BLACK
April 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am
I can live with Manning, too. Let’s go Reggie!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am
go for Chapman!!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Chap still avail now reg knew what he was doing getting berg yesterday
April 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am
SharkCatcher Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Of course bit#@ Ass.ESPN takes a commercial break when its our turn to pick..don’t know why o didn’t see that coming
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THey werent gonna talk about the pick anyways ..
April 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Who???
April 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Alameda to Steel City, who called that one??
April 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Miles Burris, yes solid pick.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Riff,
You have a valid point about clutch, but I think Leadership AND work ethic (combined) can help in the clutch. Preparation and leadership reduce anxiety, and helps player adapt and make faster decisions, which helps them in the clutch. You are right, some players just have it, and some don’t regardless of their work ethic or leadership.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
MilesBurris
April 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
GO AZTECS!!!!!!!
We got a good player Nation!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
OLB. whoa
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Burris!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Burris olb. Big production. Nice pick.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
No way??? Miles Burris Im 1 of the happiest ppl in the world rite now
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
GO AZTECS….BURRIS!
Not a bad pick. I actually like him better than T Lewis.
Burris wouldn’t have been there in Round 5 for Raiders.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Hells bells.. what do you know about this kid?? is he any good??
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Well, you swung and missed AGAIN!
How about J lin though????
hahahahaha
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DKnight007 Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Looks like pick may come down to players like Jones, Winn, T Lewis, Johnson, T Manning, Chapman, maybe one of the CB’s.
Don’t want a CB in this round in draft though.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Let’s scroll up ..who said ” I think we going lb this pick” I’m on Fire!!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Very good pick indeed.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I guess Reggie knows better than to sign another player from Alabama
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
YUP LB it is .. DT in the 5th ?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I’ll take an OLB, even if he is from a horrendous program like SDSU
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Finally… DEFENSE!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Time to look up this guy. Miles Burris linebacker.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Knew you would like that one O
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Miles Burris, LB GREAT MOTOR
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Ya!!! Had Burris but thought he woulda been later. BPA Baby!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Well my 4th round Mock Draft Pick was correct lol
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
This is better than watching the 3 stooges.
You draft experts!!!!
hahahahahahahahaha
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
is Burris a pass rusher??
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
@395 marshall faulk is a aztec alum.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Maybe chapman with one of our 5th rounders
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
obviously big production.. he’s from sdstate… how good is he??
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I predict we’re gonna pick Miles Burris…
If i’m right i deserve some props.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
MistaBrown Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
This is better than watching the 3 stooges.
You draft experts!!!!
hahahahahahahahaha
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OK genius now go back to your corner
April 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
WE should draft another LB to replace Curry
April 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
ok I am going to go Shark Catcher and say see about an hour ago I said it would be LB and I was thinking OLB. Actually if Alameda was still there he would have done that….
April 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
is Burris a pass rusher??
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Better blitzer than outside rusher. ILB/OLB in 3-4, SLB or possibly MLB in 4-3.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
DTs are falling. We will still get one.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VapULyU56To
burris
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
TOLD you guys it will be a LB
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Kirk morrisson clone???
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
He was very productive. Tacs & sacs
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
JFB we just did.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I’m looking for Sammy Brown with a late-round pick, too. Would definitely shore up the LB corps. I’m very high on Brown, and the Raiders have showed some interest in him.
I also like Terrell Manning quite a bit.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
CODE BLACK ***
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
is Burris a pass rusher??
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sure is. Big sack guy. Playmaker more than athlete. Great motor
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Sounds like a solid pick. We need ‘backers. Not enough on the roster to field a team yet much less get everyone through camp healthy…
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Now it’s time for Nick Jean Baptiste in the 5th
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
397.beach Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Time to look up this guy. Miles Burris linebacker.
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Search engines are blowing up as we speak.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
All of my posts keep getting deleted. So Im gonna call it a nite.
Chat with ya later O, Marley, method, JFB, etc
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Now 40 people will say what a great pick it was.
lmao
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Christ, Reggie is blowing the draft.
Bergstrom should have been a 4th rounder and Burris should have been a late 5th or a early 6th..
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Miles Burris is an outside linebacker who recorded 19 tackles for loss, eight sacks and three fumble recoveries for SDSU last season.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
BTW, Im ok with taking Burris at this point.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Obviously, McK, Allen and the scouts liked Burris better than T Lewis and T Manning. I liked T Manning better than Burris actually, do to the speed Manning played against in the SEC.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Im tryna figure out why Terrell Manning has dropped so far down the boards…Was projected high 3rd low 4th
April 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Did we just take Burris? hahaha
April 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
LMN, give it up. This kid Burriss can play any linebacker position.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
425.MistaBrown Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Now 40 people will say what a great pick it was.
lmao
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I would’ve taken him in the 1st.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
we pick again at #148
less than 20 picks to go, get Chapman!!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Im 2 for 2!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
kid can ply however, could have been had in 5th
April 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
ghostraiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
obviously big production.. he’s from sdstate… how good is he??
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gotta check back in 5 years to know how good any draftee is
April 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I originally thought we could get Massaquoi at # 148. Let’s see where he goes.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Dane Brugler @dpbrugler
Miles Burris was born to wear a #Raiders uniform…excellent pick, no quit in him #NFLDraft
April 28th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Riff,
I said “one of the reasons” for his lack of success in terms of winning a SB. You are right, football is a team sport, so we can’t blame Rivers for everything, but I live in SD (I get to watch him and his loud mouth), and I watched the AFC title game vs NE, and his lack of arm strength was on display. It was windy, and he couldn’t deliver the ball without being picked or defense making a play. That’s the game were they had all those FGs.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Forget Chapman guys, he has bad knees. We can’t gamble with thes picks.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Burris along with Bergstrom, both high character guys, I see a trend from Reggie
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Thec Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
kid can ply however, could have been had in 5th
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A 4th round compensatory pick is basically a 5th round pick.
If you like the kid, you take him where you have him rated. Draft day isn’t the time to second guess your big board.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
It’d be cool if Chapman falls to the early/mid 5th rnd…
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
CorkOnTheNFL:
Miles Burris is an outside linebacker who recorded 19 tackles for loss, eight sacks and three fumble recoveries for SDSU last season. [via Twitter]
I hear some also project him as MLB, ILB,including some posters here who have watched him play a lot
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Burris has a Twitter account…that’s what we need a big whiteboy lb ..hope he pans out
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Burris = FOOTBALL PLAYER
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Interesting article:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1127936-baltimore-ravens-why-the-ravens-could-make-miles-burris-the-steal-of-the-draft
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Is Burfict still available?
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
PFW Draft Profile on LB Miles Burris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwiugXKf-K0
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
With the middle of the 5th round pick I predict a trade down to get another pick in the 6th or maybe next year picks. It will be RM’s first opportunity to trade down.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Good night Riff.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Im very happy. But these arent 1st rd picks, so its harder for reg to mess up.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
We need depth on the D line. That must be addressed at 148.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Everyone on youtube looking at burris.. go raiders..lol
April 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Burfict wil either be a late 7th or go Undrafted
April 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Burris is a perfect flex player for a hybrid system.
Wonder if Wheeler will see time at WLB with Burris at SLB.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:48 am
new post
April 28th, 2012 at 10:48 am
I excited again!!!! No lefty, it has nothing to do with having him on my list. I just think he is a good fit. A LB who can rush the passer.
Great Pick!!
He is an AZTEC!!!!!! Go Aztecs!!!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am
No this guy can stack and shed. Destroys Rbs who try to pick him up.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am
A 4th round compensatory pick is basically a 5th round pick.
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Disagree…The pick i had in mind was our rd 5 (33)168, not quite the same as a 4th rounder…
April 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Youre right O, you did say “one of the reasons”. I mis-read you. My bad.
Dont forget, Manning has a cannon and the wind messed him up in NE also. The wind makes noodle arms of the best of them.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Raider O….We were just chopping it up bout thid kid like 3 weeks ago…Im juiced we picked him p…Easily 1 of my favorite players in the draft and was a huge sleeper
April 28th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Ohioraider Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Interesting article:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1127936-baltimore-ravens-why-the-ravens-could-make-miles-burris-the-steal-of-the-draft
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One correction:
“The next great RAIDERS linebacker” Ha Ha Ha…
Out of nowhere again.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:51 am
This kid has leader written all over him. You reading this, McClain? Gonna make your life a little harder in camp!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Miles Burris: 6′2 246 lbs, 4.68 40, 31 reps bench press – projected to go right where Reggie took him, 4th or 5th round
April 28th, 2012 at 10:52 am
I see a lb that sheds blockers and flies at ball carriers. Hesure aint flat footed waiting for the tackle like burfict.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:52 am
High character is the key to a great football team. Look at the Patriots. Reggie knows how to pick football players, thank goodness!
April 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Is that kaddu lb from Oregon still on board?
April 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Leinart is a joke.
April 28th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Josh Chapman, Tank Carder, Josh Norman off board, trade down
Division III DB Chris Greenwood on R4 sounds like a little reach I would have liked him later
Hebron Fangupo NT/DT BYU
Miles Burris, LB, S.D. St. GOT HIM ALREADY!
Terrell Manning, LB, North Carolina St.
Johnathan Massaquioi, DE, Troy St.
Sean Prater, CB, Iowa
April 28th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Hebron Fangupo NT/DT BYU
Miles Burris, LB, S.D. St. GOT HIM ALREADY!
Terrell Manning, LB, North Carolina St.
Johnathan Massaquioi, DE, Troy St.
April 28th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Jack Crawford anyone, huge beast
April 28th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
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