More undrafted free agents signed by Raiders — updated
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, April 28th, 2012 at 5:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Since we last spoke, the Raiders have added six more undrafted free agents. They are:
Missouri DL Dominique Hamilton, Southern California wide receiver Brandon Carswell, East Carolina wide receiver Lance Lewis, Utah cornerback Conroy Black, Penn State cornerback Chaz Powell and California (Pa.) wide receiver Thomas Mayo.
Note: As is expected during this uncertain time, there is plenty of misinformation floating around. Nothing is official until the Raiders confirm the signings.
Case in point, Pittsburgh defensive end Brandon Lindsey now is linked to signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Still sorting through that one. Stay tuned.
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April 28th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Lindsey went to the Steelers.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
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April 28th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
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April 28th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
BALLIN….BIG MAC IS COMING UP REAL BIG RITE NOW
April 28th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Hardline Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Mista Brown,
So MLBs are the Captains of the Defense?
Jamista Clown is a moron. Now in the passing era, safeties call the defenses on a lot of teams. Jamista Clown is living in the distant past as he is in all aspects of his life.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Looks like Reggie is now trying to add a free agent pass rusher. Good move.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Aaron Henry
Dom Hamilton
Lucas Nix
Derek Carrier
Conroy Black
Lance Lewis
Thomas Mayo
Brandon Carswell
Chaz Powell
Marquette King
Looks like McKenzie wants competition at WR.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Alex Hoffman-Ellis and Sammy Brown would be a nice cap on this UDFA class.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
How does the signing of UFAs go? Is it just a free for all?
April 28th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Free for all. It’s like the gold rush.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Knox Bardeen @knoxbardeen
7th-round pick Travian Robertson said he was talking to #Raiders about signing as a UDFA when #Falcons called & said they were drafting him
April 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Anyone bite on Vontaze Burfict?
April 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Also is there a limit on how many guys you can bring in?
April 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Anyone bite on Vontaze Burfict?
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I think he got a call from the Arapahoe County Sheriff.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Don’t get all the WR signings. Seems like we have at least 5 guys who are better on the roster. Even Calhoun sounds like as good or better of an option than any of these guys.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Anyone bite on Vontaze Burfict?
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Cincy
April 28th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
14.Seymour Bush Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Anyone bite on Vontaze Burfict?
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I think he got a call from the Arapahoe County Sheriff.
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Ha. Good one.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Chris in NY Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Don’t get all the WR signings. Seems like we have at least 5 guys who are better on the roster. Even Calhoun sounds like as good or better of an option than any of these guys.
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Competition.
April 28th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
No RB?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Sammy Brown, Cordarro Law, Alex Hoffman-Ellis… please.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Are we approaching the 90 man limit yet?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Oh, that must explain it. No Travis Lewis, per his Twitter.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
#16,
Thx Guest.
The guy goes from 1st round shoe-in to…almost not getting in the league at all.
Who knows? Maybe he won’t even make the team.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
It just dawned on me that the Raiders didnt draft a DB this year. I can’t remember a draft since I’ve been a Raider fan that we didnt pick up at least 1 db.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
lance lewis
April 28th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
aig-raiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
It just dawned on me that the Raiders didnt draft a DB this year. I can’t remember a draft since I’ve been a Raider fan that we didnt pick up at least 1 db.
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Funny thing is, this is the time we had the biggest need at DB in as long as I can remember.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
AIG…… We got a steal in Aaron Henry
April 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Right, Lance Lewis.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Chris,
I prefer to get vet DB like the guys we picked up so far. IMHO, the Steelers and Ravens have the best defenses in the league. Who are their famous corners again? You get a solid front 7 and 1 mean SOB FS. We still need a mean SOB FS.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Kirk Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Raiders picked Bergstrom because their number one priority is to make sure Wiz stays at center for the whole year.
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Cause were gonna have 1-2 possession WR.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I like Burris alot.
When a guy has an excitement level like his it suggests he really gives a crap.
I want guys who give a crap.
Maybe if we had more of that we wouldn’t have let Detroit march 98 yds. with the season on the line.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Looked at tape on Aaron Henry dont seem to be all that bad.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Chris In NY Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
aig-raiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
It just dawned on me that the Raiders didnt draft a DB this year. I can’t remember a draft since I’ve been a Raider fan that we didnt pick up at least 1 db.
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Funny thing is, this is the time we had the biggest need at DB in as long as I can remember.
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Cordarro Law, and a few others are still out there.
passed on Alfonso Dennard for Count of Monte Christo, Georgia at DT in the 5th
maybe Aaron Henry will be tried at corner, not FS?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
aig-raiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Chris,
I prefer to get vet DB like the guys we picked up so far. IMHO, the Steelers and Ravens have the best defenses in the league. Who are their famous corners again? You get a solid front 7 and 1 mean SOB FS. We still need a mean SOB FS.
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I agree that top CBs are generally overpaid and I’d take an elite pass rusher over an elite CB.
I do worry though that we’ve got 4 corners who could be pretty good, or who all could also struggle. Really, I’m just as high on DVD and Chekway at this point and hoping they emerge as the starters.
I worry about the fact that we still don’t have any edge rushers to speak of. Allen and the D are going to have to dial up the pressure with creative blitzing this year. No doubt about it. Although, from what I hear, that is Allen’s specialty.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I like Burris alot.
When a guy has an excitement level like his it suggests he really gives a crap.
I want guys who give a crap.
Maybe if we had more of that we wouldn’t have let Detroit march 98 yds. with the season on the line.
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maybe Reggie McKenzie saw a little Clay Matthews, Jr in Miles Burris, he was making a lot of plays on the highlight tape. FYI; most of the plays he was unblocked or had a free line to the runner….appears to be a blitz type…very little tape of him defeating blockers, though – still looks good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VapULyU56To
April 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Obviously, we can’t address everything in one draft but I think this is a great start. Of course, I tell myself that in years past when Al reached for guys like Jawalrus, DHB, MM34 and countless others. That’s why I’m a fan.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
It looks like DHB is looking at competition. By the looks of all these big WR’s coming in.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
No run stuffer? Reggie you fked up….Seymour and Kelly not gonna do much…let’s pray we have a real RDe on this years team….oh well we shall see what the deal is come august
April 28th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Can’t say that I feel any more or less confident after the draft than before. Still in wait and see mode.
9+ wins.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Burris is definitely a poor man’s Clay Matthews. I hope is at least 50% of Matthew’s production.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Good point Sam. I think on a few of those plays he simply ran past any would be blocker, but you’re right; i don’t see him running in unscathed too much at the nfl level.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
I like Aaron Henry. Nice selection. He was snubbed by the Big 10 writers but was a lst team All Conference selection by the coaches. Not invited to the combine. No one knows why. Decent size, can play either corner or safety, ran a 4.5 forty. Funny how a 4.4 guy goes in the lst 4 rounds and a 4.5 guy goes undrafted.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I like the miles burris pick. Maybe DA can use him the same way he used Von Miller
April 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
We need Henry to stay at S.
Pat Lee might win a starting CB, or at least the nickle. Isn’t he the kid who filled in for CWood in the SB and played well?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
seriously? if you’re hating on this draft then you know nothing about football. go back to nfl.com solid draft considering started with 5 late picks
April 28th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Chris,
I think DVD was another typical Al Davis reach and will never pan out. Chekwa has potential. DVD = Buchanon without the attitude. We get Shonasty back. But I still am waiting for a ball hawking FS back there. I can’t say anyone on our roster can be that person now.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
No run stuffer? Reggie you fked up….
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Brien they brought in a bunch of LB’s who can run defend, and they signed a bunch of corners in FA who can run defend. I have been telling you this for years. You blame the DT’s for the run defense, me the coaches and the people in the league blame the LB’s and the secondary for our poor run defense.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
So its Shaughnessy Seymour Kelly Houston as our base DL? Hard to be excited….let’s hope our LBs are up to the task
April 28th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Great move by Vontaze to leave school his junior year.
Someone was joking that he signed with Enterprise-Rent-A Car.
Got to have a college degree for them, so even that is not an option.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
J Hill Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
We need Henry to stay at S.
Pat Lee might win a starting CB, or at least the nickle. Isn’t he the kid who filled in for CWood in the SB and played well?
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that he is. people forget about him, including myself. he has skills when he must fill in for someone. i like the competition at CB, so long as everyone stays healthy. Bartell is a good signing if his neck holds up.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
aig-raiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Obviously, we can’t address everything in one draft but I think this is a great start. Of course, I tell myself that in years past when Al reached for guys like Jawalrus, DHB, MM34 and countless others. That’s why I’m a fan.
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DHB > Crabtree (the guy we were “supposed to take”) and only getting better.
I’m a big MM34 fan as well. Hasn’t had much of a chance with Branch establishing himself as the starter before MM got here, but the kid can definitely play.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
PS Reggie thinks so too. that’s why you haven’t seen a CB signed.(it could come in the second round of cuts from teams)
April 28th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Glenny…haha you don’t think our crappy DT play is linked with the run d woes the last decade? Come on….Seymour and Kelly are a joke and Des Bryant is 290…Travis Ivey? Whatever….guess we just building so I guess we will address more next draft….whewwwww boy don’t know what McRibzie I don’t agree with it at all
April 28th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
i tell that to niner fans everyday.
AL DAVIS WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE CRAPTREE AND DHBALLIN CONTEST!
thank you for playing!
April 28th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Some reporst are saying Lewis actually went to the Redskins, but check out Lance Lewis outjumping 1st round pick Stephon gilmore
Lance Lewis vs South Carolina 2011 – YouTube
April 28th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Burris said he played in a 3-3-5 defensive scheme for the Aztecs. I’ve heard his name down here in the radio a bunch but never follow that team. It easthe first time I’ve heard of a 3-3-5.
I’m really excited to see this kid play. From what I’ve watched he is all go.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Pat Lee is a good player just could not crack the lineup with Cwood out there. Lee kept getting hurt. You got Underwood as well. Shawtae Spencer is more of a cover corner than run defender.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Method, i would have liked more DT’s signed.
with that being said, i think it was more of our shabby LB’er crew more than it was our DL. Seymour has a lot more help this year, especially from his DC(Allen through Tarver) calling better plays …
we will not have the bset D in the league, but it will automatically be better without CHUNKY B calling the worst Raider D in team history.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I think a big part of the Raider Defensive woes, is that it’s been so easy to read.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Yes SB, although Underwood.
BigMac think we’re fine. i trust the man.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
aig-raiders Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Chris,
I think DVD was another typical Al Davis reach and will never pan out. Chekwa has potential. DVD = Buchanon without the attitude. We get Shonasty back. But I still am waiting for a ball hawking FS back there. I can’t say anyone on our roster can be that person now.
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DVD is very fast, very long and very fluid. Perfect raw ability for a CB. Rod Woodson loved him. Far better prospect than anything we’ll grab off the UFA heap. And Al’s acumen at drafting corners was second to none.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Aig…..dvd is a moron like Phillip was….he doesn’t care about winning and losing….I hope he gets cut this preseason
April 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Isn’t next year MM34’s 4th year in the league?
He needs to improve, because quite frankly his last month of last season was about as bad as he has played since he was here. He seems to be getting worse, not better.
KC game, missed tackles everywhere. SD game, gets burnt for a TD, lets a kick returner blow right past him and through his hole and ultimately allows a TD.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
DVD is my MUP pick this year.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Glenny…haha you don’t think our crappy DT play is linked with the run d woes the last decade?
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No. Our run defense woes are two things: runs off the edge and the MLB. I heard Kirk Morrison is interning to be an announcer. So-Longo McLame can follow in his footsteps.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
July 22: Deadline for unsigned UFA to sign with new clubs.
July 22: Deadline for transition players to sign with new clubs.
Late July: Training camps across the league begin.
Aug. 13: Preseason: Dallas at Oakland, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Aug. 28: Roster cutdown to 80 players
Sept. 2: Roster cutdown to 53 players.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Isn’t next year MM34’s 4th year in the league?
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4th and Last year in the league, based on the lst three.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Good point Sam. I think on a few of those plays he simply ran past any would be blocker, but you’re right; i don’t see him running in unscathed too much at the nfl level.
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thanks, DJ Johnny
Looks like much of the draft is special teams/depth to push what starters we already have. My only complaint is passing on Dennard, with injury prone vets Shawntae Spencer and Bartell (neck?!) starting….Dennard wouldve been nice fall back (great in run support and decent in coverage). The thing with DVD is that he’s a finesse paper tiger…much lighter contact-shy version of Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie. Burris could at least help on specials and add occasional heat coming off the edge…did not see much of him in coverage, either.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RaiderSam Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I like Burris alot.
When a guy has an excitement level like his it suggests he really gives a crap.
I want guys who give a crap.
Maybe if we had more of that we wouldn’t have let Detroit march 98 yds. with the season on the line.
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maybe Reggie McKenzie saw a little Clay Matthews, Jr in Miles Burris, he was making a lot of plays on the highlight tape. FYI; most of the plays he was unblocked or had a free line to the runner….appears to be a blitz type…very little tape of him defeating blockers, though – still looks good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VapULyU56To
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I like the kid.
- Decent athleticism
- Looks to have great instincts
- When he gets there, he finishes
April 28th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Kell that’s partially true and partially not so…..Al kept having underachieving DL like the ones who will start this year….I’m not feeling Seymour Kelly and the other DTs….still gonna be rough for us vs running backs I see
April 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Chekwa was better than DVD in high school (they played in the same state), in college, and his rookie year.
He will be better next year and so on and so on.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Isn’t next year MM34’s 4th year in the league?
He needs to improve, because quite frankly his last month of last season was about as bad as he has played since he was here. He seems to be getting worse, not better.
KC game, missed tackles everywhere. SD game, gets burnt for a TD, lets a kick returner blow right past him and through his hole and ultimately allows a TD.
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And let’s not forget the Green Bay game where the FIRST PLAY from scrimmage he comes in over runs the play, MCLame takes the wrong hole, and Grant goes 55 yards basically untouched. How does ANYONE go 55 yards untouched on a football field?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Isn’t next year MM34’s 4th year in the league?
He needs to improve, because quite frankly his last month of last season was about as bad as he has played since he was here. He seems to be getting worse, not better.
KC game, missed tackles everywhere. SD game, gets burnt for a TD, lets a kick returner blow right past him and through his hole and ultimately allows a TD.
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Had a sensational pick in coverage on TE J.Finley in the Green Bay game in red-zone..he has his moments…but Henry, and a few others have a shot…. too bad Brandon Hardin was taken by Bears
April 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Making the opposing teams think a little can’t hurt the run defense.
Peyton Manning just ran laps around us when we played him last, calling for runs to Dominick frkn Rhodes and bagging 6 yards a pop.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Madness were you disappointed that we passed Ta’amu twice too?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Glenny you ain’t watched all the games I see….people run up the gut on the Raiders a lot during the last ten years….that isn’t up for debate…our DTs are awful
April 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Method, I just don’t see how you can be mad at this when we were shorthanded. The 2 Dlineman we drafted very good athletes and this kid Hamilton the FA great size and potential. TKelly was an undrafted FA so was Des but this Christo kid is very interesting. If the Nix kid sticks with us this is a very solid haul from where we were standing.
Not to forget the Henry kid, I think Carriers a longshot but who knows. I think our guys gave a very decent performance everything considered.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Had a sensational pick in coverage on TE J.Finley in the Green Bay game in red-zone..
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It was a nice play, of course though we were down about 35 points at the time, so kind of takes the shine off it a little bit.
Not too many people in here bragging about Rolando’s two second half sacks that game, and safety.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
You guys act like Mitchell has been a disaster because
1) The talking heads panned the pick.
2) He gave up a TD to Gates in the finale. Not the first guy Gates has scored a TD on in his career.
The kid plays with a lot of enthusiasm and has had some nice games. He can play.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Isn’t next year MM34’s 4th year in the league?
He needs to improve, because quite frankly his last month of last season was about as bad as he has played since he was here. He seems to be getting worse, not better.
KC game, missed tackles everywhere. SD game, gets burnt for a TD, lets a kick returner blow right past him and through his hole and ultimately allows a TD.
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And let’s not forget the Green Bay game where the FIRST PLAY from scrimmage he comes in over runs the play, MCLame takes the wrong hole, and Grant goes 55 yards basically untouched. How does ANYONE go 55 yards untouched on a football field?
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Well, there was the long run by Mike Tolbert in the final game of the season.
irony; Ryan Grant might be signed after June 1st …
April 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Glenny you ain’t watched all the games I see….people run up the gut on the Raiders a lot during the last ten years….that isn’t up for debate…our DTs are awful
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Why is the MLB not in the right gap? Over and over and over and over and…….
April 28th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Guy Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Madness were you disappointed that we passed Ta’amu twice too?
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I know I was. A few people thought Ta’amu didnt have the motor and his weight fluctuates….
Hamiton and Count of Monte Cristo better be the truth in the middle
April 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
We will see our DLine do different things this year with a new schemes
April 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
our DTs are awful……..LOL
Method can’t you see the powers that be, disagree. I dissagree and have said so many times but you just can’t see it. TK was one if the top peforming DT’s in the league the only reason he doesn’t go to the probowl is overall defensive stats.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Had a sensational pick in coverage on TE J.Finley in the Green Bay game in red-zone..
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It was a nice play, of course though we were down about 35 points at the time, so kind of takes the shine off it a little bit.
Not too many people in here bragging about Rolando’s two second half sacks that game, and safety.
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maybe the potential will materialize and the “light” will come on for these guys….we’ll see…Burris is definitely a gamer and so is Penn St.’s Nasty Nate Stupar
April 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Lucas Nix, G
Biography: Three-year starter who’s been used at both tackle and guard for Pittsburgh.
Positives: Nice-sized lineman who shows a degree of athleticism and versatility in his game. Fires off the snap into blocks, stays square and anchors at the point. Quickly gets his hands into defenders and fights hard throughout the action. Moves relatively well on his feet. Keeps his head on a swivel and works well with linemates. Nasty and attacks assignments. Blocks with leverage, for the most part.
Negatives: Lacks a dominant base. Must do a better job sinking his butt and bending his knees at the line of scrimmage. Struggled with a knee injury in the middle part of the 2011 season, which slowed his development.
Analysis: Nix was very productive the past three seasons and is a line prospect who offers size and growth potential. He could develop into a starter in the NFL or at the very least could be an inexpensive utility blocker for several positions on the offensive line.
Projection: 4th
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83573.html#ixzz1tOBwIL6t
April 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Glenny you ain’t watched all the games I see
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Bri either you are a defensive football genius, or Reggie Mac, Dennis Allen, Johnnie Holland and I are on the right track.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Glenny spare me this gap excuse…..it doesn’t fly anymore…Seymour should retire and Kelly needs to just quit on himself
April 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Reggie might have found a starter.. Thats as good as we couldve hoped for.. A+
April 28th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Chris in NY Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
You guys act like Mitchell has been a disaster because
1) The talking heads panned the pick.
2) He gave up a TD to Gates in the finale. Not the first guy Gates has scored a TD on in his career.
The kid plays with a lot of enthusiasm and has had some nice games. He can play.
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his best contributions have been on special teams, that of which is very valuable. with that said, there are a few guys like Henry pushing him for a backup roll now at either FS or SS(looks like a good size for either) ..
that’s what Reggie truly wants, competition throughout all the defensive positions! with the exception of DT’s outside of Hamilton, there isn’t a whole lot there thus far.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
BhP good to see ya again…..sorry man but Kelly is not a top DT with such a sorry ass run d…..he sucks and I can’t wait til he is gone
April 28th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
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April 28th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Glenny…I’m a realist about the DT slot….at one time I defended seymour and kelly….them days are over…our run d will continue to suffer with those losers
April 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
McClain played on one leg all year yet he put up very respectable stats. Try playing in this league on one solid leg and see how far you get.
I think you guys don’t understand how injuries affect a players performance you think if he’s out there he’s 100% well that’s not the case. You constantly bash players for NOT playing hurt yet when they do you’re pissed because they’re not themselves.
Which is it? should they sit instead???
Mike Bush busted his ass for us on a bad wheel and all he ever gets is spit on. Maybe he should’ve used the injury as an excuse and let play Cartwright all year……….I guess that’s the only way to make some of you happy……..it’s a joke!
April 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
SB,
Do you just look at any hole a RB has against us and say it’s a missed assignment by the MLB?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I think a big part of the Raider Defensive woes, is that it’s been so easy to read.
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BINGO
April 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
NFL. COM Grade by player
Bergstrom 59
Burris 52
Crawford 65
Criner 79.7
Bilukidi NO GRADE
Stupar 46.5
70-84 Eventual Starter 2nd-3rd A quality player who will contribute to the team early on and is expected to develop into a starter. A reliable player who brings value to the position.
50-69 Draftable Player 4th-7th A prospect with the ability to make team as a backup/role player. Needs to be a special teams contributor at applicable positions. Players in the high range of this category might have long-term potential.
20-49 Free Agent UDFA A player with solid measurables, intangibles, college achievements, or a developing skill that warrants an opportunity in an NFL camp. In the right situation, he could earn a place on a 53-man roster, but most likely will be a practice squad player or a camp body.
…..
According to their grades and scale the Raiders got
ONE eventual starter at WR that can contribute this season.
THREE special teams guys that might be backups
TWO that graded out as UDFA (Why waste picks on guys they could have had after the draft?)
April 28th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Jhill how? You have no pass rush off edges nor do you have DTs that play the run well….Dline is a weakness
April 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Xraided Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
his best contributions have been on special teams, that of which is very valuable. with that said, there are a few guys like Henry pushing him for a backup roll now at either FS or SS(looks like a good size for either) ..
that’s what Reggie truly wants, competition throughout all the defensive positions! with the exception of DT’s outside of Hamilton, there isn’t a whole lot there thus far.
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This is exactly right. Reggie Mac has brought in competition at every single spot BUT defensive tackle. Seymour, Kelly and Desmond have played well. I like Cumbie as well. Every other job is up for grabs.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
79. He has never had a good game
April 28th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Glenny you ain’t watched all the games I see
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Bri either you are a defensive football genius, or Reggie Mac, Dennis Allen, Johnnie Holland and I are on the right track.
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I’m betting the latter.
In Reg we trust
Hail to the new Reg-gime
April 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Wasbanned so nfl.com said our picks sucked?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Nate Stupar has a good eye at reading plays.Hes always around the football.Pretty good at stuffing running backs.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
97. What do they know?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Wasbanned Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
NFL. COM Grade by player
Bergstrom 59
Burris 52
Crawford 65
Criner 79.7
Bilukidi NO GRADE
Stupar 46.5
70-84 Eventual Starter 2nd-3rd A quality player who will contribute to the team early on and is expected to develop into a starter. A reliable player who brings value to the position.
50-69 Draftable Player 4th-7th A prospect with the ability to make team as a backup/role player. Needs to be a special teams contributor at applicable positions. Players in the high range of this category might have long-term potential.
20-49 Free Agent UDFA A player with solid measurables, intangibles, college achievements, or a developing skill that warrants an opportunity in an NFL camp. In the right situation, he could earn a place on a 53-man roster, but most likely will be a practice squad player or a camp body.
…..
According to their grades and scale the Raiders got
ONE eventual starter at WR that can contribute this season.
THREE special teams guys that might be backups
TWO that graded out as UDFA (Why waste picks on guys they could have had after the draft?)
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FOUR; YOU CANT MEASURE HEART.
a lot of dudes blew up as 7th round picks or without even being drafted; Tramon Williams, London Fletcher, Marques Colston, Sam Shields …we could go on and on.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Historically Black Colleges & Universities game players signed as UDFAs
hbcuclassics says:
April 28, 2012 at 9:28 pm
HBCU Classic Sports
2012 Draft Update:
Christian Thompson, S, SC State – Baltimore
Ryan Davis, DE/OLB, Bethune – Jacksonville
Mario Louis, WR, Grambling – Houston
Marquette King, P, FVSU – Oakland
James Dekle, G, Prairie View – Arizona
Kevin Elliott, WR, FAMU – Jacksonville
Demario Pippen, RB,Tuskegee – Denver
LaMont Bryant, TE, Morgan St – Baltimore
Bryan Tymes, TE, FAMU – San Francisco
Jared Green, WR, Southern – Carolina
Donovan Robinson, DE, Jackson St – New York Jets
Adrian Hamilton, DE, Prairie View – Dallas
Antonio Dennard, CB, Langston – Jaguars
stay tuned…www.hbuclassics.com
April 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Good to talk to bruh, but for the 1,000th time the run isn’t a direct reflection of the DT’s. Run defense is all consumming all 11 players must play the run to have a great run D…………period
Let me add this, I’m not all that worried about stopping the run the way you are because this is a passing league. You must get to the QB, stop the run on your way there.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Sam….you can bet the latter…that’s fine…just know seymour is really a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 LDE/UT but his legs are shot…Kelly has always sucked and started all over the dline….you guys think its scheme I say its talent…guess we shall see eh?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
if the highlights of burris are true for the whole game and hes around the ball the whole game then he is defenitly like matthews
cuz matthews didnt make most of the takles but hes was always where the ball was
in the highlights he doesnt quit hes in hot pursuit and makin tackles 20 yrds downfield and coming from the oppisite side chasing down plays going away from WOW
looks like we got relentless pass rusher
April 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I’m not saying the picks sucked.
Most graded out as value for place they were chosen.
Only 2 graded out as UDFA or lower value than the spot they were drafted.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Hahahahahah BHP and for thousandth time DTs first duty is to stop run..be serious and a passing league? Well who the hell is your pass rushers? Lol Thank you….dline is a weakness
April 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Yeah, can’t wait to see this NEW Raiders “Multiple Defense”
April 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
You wnat a great run D then tackle well and play with discipline. the Steelers entire D is focus on stopping the run 1st and pressuring the QB 2nd. Our D is focused on killing the QB and stoppping the run 2nd.
Once you understand that then you wont be so frustrated.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Actually Crawford and Criner graded out at higher value than the spot taken according to NFL.com
April 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
That up to the coaches to figure out B they have to get to the QB…………period
April 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Hope Reggie finds us a poss wr….dhb improved but isn’t a poss wr…he better than craptree tho…thank god
April 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Miles Burris is a savage.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Some of the basic tenets of Bob Davie’s and RC Slocumb’s “Wrecking Crew” defense, which Dennis Allen was a part of are these:
Believe that big defense wins big games.
Set High Standards.
Get All Players to Play Hard
Develop an Unselfish Attitude
Does any of that sound like last years Raider defense?
April 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Sorry but Crawford sucks…I don’t like that pick…he can’t get to the qb like a beast does
April 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I want Carson Palmer to throw touchdowns
April 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
We play a 1gap system predicated on killing the QB we aint catching like a 2gap system Balt and Pitt and SF all catch we penetrate like the NYG and they just won it all…………period
April 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Steelers have had a lot of talent on d come on BHP…bad comparison
April 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
wasbanned Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
NFL. COM Grade by player
According to their grades and scale the Raiders got
JONTRAIN Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Lemme say this for the third time: Grading a draft right after it’s over is idiotic. And a waste of time. That’s all I was saying.
THANKS. BUT PLEASE REPEAT A FEW MORE TIMES AS NEEDED
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
THE GENTLEMAN WHO ANNOUNCED THE RAIDERS SELECTION YESTERDAY WAS ALSO AN UDFA.HE IS ALSO IN THE HALL OF FAME..
I’m sure that the Raiders’ new Reggime felt like they got the best players available at those picks. No one will know for 5 years or so. “Grading” drafts before then is stupid…at least as stupid as trying to think who they will pick before hand, and also less fun, imo
April 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
good draft solid picks
no reaches no panic moves
udfa class looks good also
nothin but guys that want to play the game
April 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Man with shownasty and Burris getting after the QB.They gona have some sacks.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
B,
We just disagree on the DTs. Seymour is getting older and Henderson is gone. I get it. But agree with Priest that we need to get to the QB first and foremost these days. Especially with the QBs in our division.
The new HC like to blitz the LBs instead of counting on the DEs.
I think the D will be just fine.
April 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Lol BHP…giants dline has talent…we don’t….we just got big guys
April 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
We just drafted the Possession WR in this draft in Criner, and Craw is raw ma. B give it up man you’re boxed in this was a good haul………….period
April 28th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Sam….you can bet the latter…that’s fine…just know seymour is really a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 LDE/UT but his legs are shot…Kelly has always sucked and started all over the dline….you guys think its scheme I say its talent…guess we shall see eh?
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too many people judging based on previous organization…give it a chance. we’ll see. If you notice, the Pats didnt have that much individual talent, but the whole of the team played within the team discipline. Denver didnt have that much, but they executed just enough to win down the stretch….lets give Allen
goals a chance….aka;
“set high standards”
“get all players to play hard” – this probably tears into the “talent” theory
“Develop an unselfish attitude” – Pats and Belichick were all over this concept
April 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
We were 2nd in the league in sacks………..Lol
give it up B.!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
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April 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Priest,
So you think we are going to run the same D as in years past?
April 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Palmer will have a better year.Boot legs and play action and MCfadden healthy.Palmer loves the playbook.Not often a QB says that.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
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#Raiders reportedly sign Nevada DE Kaelin Burnett.
great. He’s a potential pass rusher DE/OLB
April 28th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Jhill He knows he’s losing ground and tryin to go down swingin’ LOL
April 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Jhill at end of day you gotta play straight up football….in a 4-3 eventually you need those DEs to handle that biz
April 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
alzadoX Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
wasbanned Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
NFL. COM Grade by player
According to their grades and scale the Raiders got
JONTRAIN Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Lemme say this for the third time: Grading a draft right after it’s over is idiotic. And a waste of time. That’s all I was saying.
THANKS. BUT PLEASE REPEAT A FEW MORE TIMES AS NEEDED
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
THE GENTLEMAN WHO ANNOUNCED THE RAIDERS SELECTION YESTERDAY WAS ALSO AN UDFA.HE IS ALSO IN THE HALL OF FAME..
I’m sure that the Raiders’ new Reggime felt like they got the best players available at those picks. No one will know for 5 years or so. “Grading” drafts before then is stupid…at least as stupid as trying to think who they will pick before hand, and also less fun, imo
…….
How about a lesson in reading comprehension…
THAT WAS NOT A DRAFT GRADE. THAT WAS A PRE-DRAFT GRADE ON EACH PLAYER THAT WAS SELECTED.
I know some of you guys struggle, but dang man.
Reading is Fundamental
April 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Lol BHP…giants dline has talent…we don’t….we just got big guys
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I’m confused.
did we go 8-8 in back to back seasons or 2-14?
Feel free to jump off the band wagon anytime.
You’ll be back on in November anyway when were 6-5 in the thick of the race as usual…
April 28th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
How about a lesson in reading comprehension…
THAT WAS NOT A DRAFT GRADE. THAT WAS A PRE-DRAFT GRADE ON EACH PLAYER THAT WAS SELECTED.
I know some of you guys struggle, but dang man.
Reading is Fundamental
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Predicting is idiotic.
Let the season play out – and get on board.
RAIDER NATION NOW, RAIDER NATION FOREVER!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
BhP bullschit I don’t lose….fkin kelly and seymour continue to stink and you jjustify their schitty play time and time again…you are like one of those ppl defending drug dealers saying its not all their fault….puhleeze….sooner seymour and kelly leave or get injured the better
April 28th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Jhill Quiet as kept we were multiple last year. based on this draft we’re staying with the same game plan. We didn’t draft a single DE/OLB what does taht tel ya? We’re going 4/3 base with mult. fronts and coverage as well. We played a ton of zone last year(cover2) and I see the same thing with the corners we brought in.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
I think Burris will turn out to be our best defensive player.Hes got a motor and a half on him.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Proof is in the pudding jhill and bhp…you been defending schitty DT play for years…these guys gettin no passes from me…..Kelly is the worse he makes me sick….starts all over the dline the last 8 years and we suck yet he is so damn good to y’all lol
April 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I think Reggie did fine given the circumstances that he was left with. However, I was kinda upset about Ta’amu, and worse, he went to Pitt…but hey, like I said last night…I’m not Reggie!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Sam lol…what? You don’t make any sense at all…bandwagon? Come on now you just reaching patna….be legit in your posts man….I’m at every game all day and every year…spare me your garbage….
April 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Xraided Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
his best contributions have been on special teams, that of which is very valuable. with that said, there are a few guys like Henry pushing him for a backup roll now at either FS or SS(looks like a good size for either) ..
that’s what Reggie truly wants, competition throughout all the defensive positions! with the exception of DT’s outside of Hamilton, there isn’t a whole lot there thus far.
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This is exactly right. Reggie Mac has brought in competition at every single spot BUT defensive tackle. Seymour, Kelly and Desmond have played well. I like Cumbie as well. Every other job is up for grabs.
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yes. and EVERYONE INCLUDING METHOD, please remember there’s another round of cuts. people will be hitting the waiver wire like it’s going out of style. ESPECIALLY with all the 1st round DT’s taken .. there will be other pushed off the roster. one man’s sh!t is another man’s gold!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
New post guys!
April 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Method To My Madness,
So Method, memba me ?? Doubtful. I challenged you regarding the Sacramento Kings and their new forum deal that was supposedly “done”; because the retard Dennis Johnson put the cost on the people through higher city taxes I predicted it wouldn’t fly.
Of course, you just went “ape”, swinging like a monkey from a tree with horrible invectives, even challenged me to a fist fight in the city of Oakland.
What do you have to say now once the deal has “officially” blown up ???
April 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Well, I won’t hold against you. But you would be wise to tone it down a little; one thing for sure: you aren’t as smart as you think you are.
April 28th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
And I can’t wait to hear the garbage you will now spew in my disfavor. Oh well……
April 28th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
B,
And I can say u have been excusing everyone else for years. Bottom line is a missed assignment from one guy shouldn’t equal a 40yd plus run. Be it a DT, a LB, or a DE.
Cut out the “big plays” and this defense will be just fine.
Get off the field on 3rd down, and we’ll be just fine.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Sam lol…what? You don’t make any sense at all…bandwagon? Come on now you just reaching patna….be legit in your posts man….I’m at every game all day and every year…spare me your garbage….
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Reaching is predicting a bad draft before players take the field. Legit is being on board with the team REGARDLESS of who they pick.
It is what it is. We ride together we die together…Raider Nation, make my kool aid a 40 ounce.
April 28th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Hardline Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Method To My Madness,
So Method, memba me ?? Doubtful. I challenged you regarding the Sacramento Kings and their new forum deal that was supposedly “done”; because the retard Dennis Johnson put the cost on the people through higher city taxes I predicted it wouldn’t fly.
Of course, you just went “ape”, swinging like a monkey from a tree with horrible invectives, even challenged me to a fist fight in the city of Oakland.
What do you have to say now once the deal has “officially” blown up ???
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OMG a fight over the freaking Sacramento Kings – whose only claim to fame was “almost” beating the Lakers and advancing in the playoffs once in a decade?!
April 28th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
April 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Wasbanned so nfl.com said our picks sucked?
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You mean the NFL.com that said JR was the next coming of John Elway? That NFL.com. Bergstrom was considered the best zbs lineman in the draft. Not sure if NFL.com graded him as a tackle or what. The definition of a sleeper pick is someone the mainstream pundits overlook. Many think Berris as well as the guy from Angola are sleeper picks. Therefore their scores are irrelvant. The way we find out is next year if the contribute or not and for some development projects like Pryor or the guy from Penn State maybe 2-3 years.
April 28th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Priest, you hyperventilating son of a gun knock it off with your “periods” once and for all. You don’t have the final word on a blog, your opinion does not end the debate, got it? Put a lid on it or I’m gonna make a special example of you this season my friend. You follow what I’m saying here?
April 29th, 2012 at 2:17 am
the DT could be nice (if confirmed)
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2012/jan/29/mus-hamilton-opens-nfl-scouts-eyes/?tigerextra
April 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am
additional UDFA’s available…have some signed yet? Cork had the Raiders adding nearly 20 undrafted free agents
4. Darrell Scott, South Florida
5. Jonas Gray, Notre Dame
Wide receivers
1. Jermaine Kearse, WR, Washington
2. Dwight Jones, North Carolina
3. Jerrell Jackson, Missouri
4. James Rodgers, Oregon State
5. Lavasier Tuinei, Oregon State
Tight ends
1. Kevin Koger, Michigan
2. Garrett Celek, Michigan State
3. Beau Reliford, Florida State
4. Matt Veldman, North Dakota State
5. Adam Nissley, Central Florida
Offensive linemen
1. James Brown (guard), Troy
2. Luke Nix (guard), Pittsburgh (to Raiders)
3. Quentin Saulsberry (center), Mississippi State
1. Ronald Leary (guard), Memphis
2. Desmond Wynn (guard), Rutgers
Defensive linemen
1. Armond Armstead (tackle), Southern California
2. Loni Fangupo (tackle), BYU
3. Vaughn Meatoga (tackle), Hawaii
Linebackers
1. Tyler Nielsen (OLB), Iowa
2. Adrien Cole (ILB), Louisiana Tech
3. Brandon Lindsey (OLB), Pittsburgh
4. Jerry Franklin (ILB), Arkansas
5. D.J. Holt, California
Defensive backs
2. Aaron Henry (FS), Wisconsin (to Raiders)
3. Janzen Jackson (FS), McNeese State
4. Kelcie McCray (SS), Arkansas State
Specialists
1. Carson Wiggs (K), Purdue
2. Drew Butler (P), Georgia
3. Josh Harris (LS), Auburn
4. Justin Tucker (K), Texas
5. Shawn Powell (P), Florida State
April 30th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Still think the Raiders need to add a center – definitely need depth there. It will be interesting to see how Marquette King does during the pre-season. I am sure he will get most (if not all) of the reps punting – looking at some video this guy can bomb it. Lechler has been fantastic but adding a young cannon to the practice squad with an undrafted free agent… nice move. Check out the video http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/4/28/2985237/oakland-raiders-kick-off-undrafted-free-agency-by-signing-punter
Not crazy about Leinart but he would definitely be a huge upgrade over Boller and some insurance… again need to pick up a backup center maybe after some roster cuts?
April 30th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
The Raiders need to get a proven deep threat….aka t.o. Not only would this bring experience to the WRS it will also allow Mcfadden an extra 2-3 yards per carry. SuperBowl here we come.
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