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Leinart, Sorgi work out for Raiders; Leinart signed — update

Veteran quarterbacks Jim Sorgi and Matt Leinart worked out for the Raiders in Alameda today. The workouts weren’t open to the media.
Ultimately, the Raiders settled upon Leinart, who played under Raiders new offensive coordinator Greg Knapp with the Houston Texans last season.
The Raiders just confirmed Leinart’s signing in a press release a few minutes ago.
The Raiders confirmed the workouts, but they didn’t provide details such as whether the players attempted passes. This is important in the case of both, given Sorgi hasn’t attempted a pass in a regular-season game since 2008 and Leinart hasn’t attempted a pass since he broke his collarbone last season.
Leinart will compete with Terrelle Pryor and Rhett Bomar for the primary backup spot to Carson Palmer.
Colleague Jerry McDonald trekked to Alameda in hopes of digging out more information. However, he wasn’t permitted access to either player.

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  • raiderzmaverick

    I don’t think a UDFA is similar. If you’re punting 7 times a game and gaining an extra 7 yards (maybe more because of hangtime limiting returns) that’s an extra 50 yards.
    That means the difference a lot of times between a score or a not score.
    And, better kickers, angle their kicks, can pin the defense on the .5 yard line (like last year in the San Diego game before our defense let them march the whole way down the field).
    Obviously if we have a crap “D” they can march as far as they want, but if it builds up a lot it’ll be beneficial to have the best punter in the business.

  • priesttj

    TP’s strength is the 8 route and 7 as well as 9. The WCO rarely uses those routes that’s why I hate they fired Hue he would’ve made a star out of TP.

  • raiderzmaverick

    priesttj Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Cranberry

    I have no problem with Leinart as long as he comes here and take sthe agme seriously. His game is limited and he needs to spend as much tim e as possible working on it instead of pretending he’s something he’s not. His armstrength is pitiful and he’s essentially a checkdown QB which is fine as long as you run this system which is geared to his ability.

    On the other hand TP is set way back as a result if this system and a coach like Knapp I’m not sure has the wherewithall to utilize his talentsbeyond asking him to check evrything down. TP is a bigplay QB you have to coach him and biuld a system to his talent instead forcing him into this 2yardpassing game. Let him attack the defense more with 6&7 routes as well as 9. He can do the hitch’s and and slants and crosses just fine but allow him to let the offense breath.
    =================
    I think a combination of not catering to Pryor’s abilities, and the fact that he probably needs a lot of work to get to a point of playing are both against him.

  • raiderzmaverick

    Knapp seems very fixed in the type of offense he runs, and doesn’t sway from it even if the talent around him has other strengths.

  • Raider J

    This is a “show & prove” year. It seems to me that Reggie Mac is giving Leinart and many others the opportunity to compete for jobs. If Matt can’t secure a #2 QB spot when he has the advantage of experience with the OC then he is a bust that must go. If he earns the spot then hopefully we will only see him play during blowouts. If he has to play then the running game and defense need to takeover. 3-4 healthy seasons for CP will make #2 QB discussions pointless. By then, Matt will either be ready or gone and Pryor will either be ready or have switched positions.

  • priesttj

    Look you guys are wasting your time with this can he beat out Leinart it’s not a matter of beating out Leinart. It’s bigger than that Leinart is nothing (NON-ISSUE) It’s about developing this kid as quickly as possible. Leinart is an afterthought.Fart!!

  • xraided

    with a name like 1960AutumnWind, you should know that Punters are the Raiders forte. Lechler gives you the luxury of getting out of bad positions on the field and gives a hopefully upgraded defense a LONG field to work with everytime.. of course he’s not worth the money, but Reggie won’t dump him(nor would any GM in the league), and Shane knows that.

  • xraided

    Raider J,

    if we’re handing teams their azzes this upcoming year with the rough schedule, then mission accomplished in one off season for this team. that means things are truly coming together. i’m a very happy Raider fan at that point.

  • Raidervill

    Don’t understand the argument. A team should keep 3 QB’s. Leinhart and Pryor battle for #2 and the loser is #3. Either way I am pleased with the set of QB’s the Raider’s have for this year. All of these guys have potential for greatness that has surfaced at some point in their careers. It’s up to DA and RMac to get it back out of one of them.

  • xraided

    about TP, that’s exactly right Priest. he is being GROOMED for the FUTURE. just what Al had in mind.

    i swear he could already run an offense like teboner and the donko’s did last year(should napalmer go down) with an option 3 style attack, and MURDER teams all day long!

    especially since a gameplan like that would help keep DMC healthy, and the guy would not have to assume the complete workload with Carson out!

    just in a worst case scenario situation.

  • priesttj

    Look they needed someone cheap who knew the WCO in case Palmer goes down so they brought this guy with a 1 year contract for no money. He’s insurance from the disaster we experienced last year. They don’t know how long it will take TP to learn that offense. They hope they don’t need Leinart beyond this year…………period

  • priesttj

    Exraided You’re so right people are jumping to way to many conclusions with this Leinart singing all he is is disaster insurance…………..period

  • xraided

    I mean, a playbook filled with booklegs will help TP along in using those athletic skills, can everyone at least agree to that?

  • xraided

    disaster insurance is something we did not have last year … until we give up a 1st round pick, that is.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    182
    True dat
    Lechler will be here for his career. No doubt.

    It it doesn’t hurt to take a perk at what else is out there
    Plus it gives lech some Competition.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    I owned the chat…

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Pryor has a LONG way to go. Under-developed clay.

  • The Beeech Dawg

    LAKER FANS STAND UP N REPRESENT

    Brahs, just finished pleasuring myself in the can to an old issue of Oui magazine, settling down for a big Laker Purple N Gold Showtime 4th quarter finish

    Yo, whether it’s the playoffs or pleasuring your dode, you gots to finish

    Will be rehearsing tonight with 2 Kewl 4 Skool, got some hot new choreography we’ll be trying out. My patent move the Jupiterwalk (the Moonwalk is for gay dweebs) is hella sweet

    It’s where I backstep slide right into a hot tub and a cheesesteak magically falls into my mouth

    THAT’S JUST HOW WE DO

  • YoungAmerican

    priesttj Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Look they needed someone cheap who knew the WCO in case Palmer goes down so they brought this guy with a 1 year contract for no money. He’s insurance from the disaster we experienced last year. They don’t know how long it will take TP to learn that offense. They hope they don’t need Leinart beyond this year…………

    ==================

    You know Raider Nation is freaking the f*** out when Priest has to be the voice of reason.

  • Hardline

    Currently we lack a 1/2 punch that DMAC and Bush provided. Now it seems we are scraping around trying to find a replacement for Bush which isn’t as easy as many Posters claimed in here before Bush was released.

    Think of the potential of Pryor being the #2 punch to DMC if for some reason CP goes down early this season.

    If Pryor can’t beat out Leinart, then what good is he?
    Reggie and DA should coach up our excellent prospect TP, so he can take the 2nd spot.

    For some reason, Corky, believes Pryor will never make it in the NFL; he said it again in the live chat today. The problem is that Corky engages conclusory allegations and not facts, same as his prediction that the Bolts would lay down for us.

    Where is your proof Cork, and on what facts are you basing your conclusory allegations ?? I base my opinion on facts: Pryor has great highlight reels, throwing and running, similiar stats to Cam Newton, and won two collegiate championships.

    Corky is not alone in stating his opinion with no proof; many posters do the same thing in here.

    At least give TP plenty of quality time in the preseason. I doubt CP needs that many reps to get tuned up: give the show to TP, especially when the game is on the line.

  • alex7

    the reason many of us believe Pryor will never make it in the NFL is that…

    he’s a terrible passer.

    The end. If you struggle with accuracy vs good teams in college, you tend to really struggle with it in the NFL.

  • beach

    It will be very interesting to see how Pryor competes vs. Leinart. Leinart has shown me nothing in his career.

  • xraided

    220.

    good call. Benson or Grant could be good options. Benson is too much $ and Grant would cost less, but is an injury waiting to happen. we can’t have both.

    all the same, i’d want to roll with 4 RB’s starting out the season if i were BigMac. with an emphasis on the running game in the Knapp show, it’s necessary… not to mention DMC will more than likely go down at some point, so picture it as having 3 other options when our star sits on IR … here’s hoping i’m wrong!

  • xraided

    the Pryor vs. Leinart competition will be most likely the most exciting one in training camp. it will very much paint a picture of where Pryor is at, and show that Matt has the ability to start for an offense in a pinch. if i remember correctly, he was playing well before going down last year, am i wrong?

  • xraided

    221. that’s debatable. the accuracy is there, go watch his main highlights.

    it’s the consistency of his arm and his ability to read defenses that could doom him in the end if he doesn’t hunker down and bust is AZZ to learn it for the next couple of years.

  • alex7

    they’re highlights. Of course he looks good in his highlights. That’s why they’re called highlights.

    Look at his games vs USC, Miami, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

    He was at 50% passing with more INTs than TDs.

    Terrible. I don’t care what he did vs Indiana and the Ohio Bobcats.

  • JLofty

    That kid RB from Fresno, Miller, looks like hez gots skiulz…

  • Bad News Dude

    So Leinart’s here to replace TP and Marquette King’s here to replace Lechler? lol…bunch of geniuses in here.

  • Bad News Dude

    Plus it gives lech some Competition.

    ………………………..

    King competition for SL? LMAO!

    King is Lechler’s personal water boy.

  • Kirk

    221.alex7 Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    the reason many of us believe Pryor will never make it in the NFL is that…

    he’s a terrible passer.

    The end. If you struggle with accuracy vs good teams in college, you tend to really struggle with it in the NFL.

    …………………………………..

    Pryor’s stats were almost as good as Cam Newton’s.

    And he seems to have a very good ability to throw on the run. Click on the link….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulYKdokw48

  • EMRaiders

    Why is everyone freaking out about Leinart? The only reason he was brought in is because of his familiarity with Knapp’s playbook. Which is also why they went with him over Sorgi. Well, that and the fact that no one knows exactly what Sorgi can and can’t do because of his limited playing time.

    Besides those two, who else was out there that were without a doubt a much better option?

    Another reason Leinart might’ve been brought in is as a camp arm. This whole Pryor is out idea doesn’t really make sense. I don’t see the point in letting Pryor go now when really, he has not even had a chance to show what he can do.

    The Raiders will probably go all the way to the final preseason game before naming the #2 QB. That is unless either Leinart or Pryor do something beyond what is expected of them early on and lock down the spot.

    If you think about it, Leinart and Pryor are two different types of QBs. In the WCO you need a mobile QB that can get outside the pocket and create plays when the original play breaks down. Aside from bootlegs and roll outs. I would think Pryor fits this mold better than Leinart. Last I remember Leinart was not a very mobile QB. But than again, neither is Palmer, so what do I know….lol

    What I am really worried about is how is Knapp going to use all the talent around him. Say what you want about Hue, but he used his weapons. Maybe not in the best way sometimes, but he did use them. Knapp on the other side strikes me of a more conservative playcaller. He is the one I am really interested on seeing how he is going to do. A bit worried too. Never liked the idea of bringing him back. But then again, maybe Allen will crack the whip on him and Saunders will help out with the gameplanning a bit and do some of the stuff that worked from last year…

  • alex7

    no, I don’t look at “highlights”. I look at the entire picture.

    He sucked vs every good D he played.

    Dude, don’t compare SEC competition (Cam) vs the terrible Big-10.

    Again, vs USC, Miami, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa… Pryor threw for under 50% completions with more INTs than TDs.

  • alex7

    Leinart’s not here to “replace” Pryor.

    Pryor was and continues to be a 3rd string “QB”.

    Leinart was and continues to be a 2nd string backup.

    Leinart replaces Boller.

  • Kirk

    232.alex7 Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 10:38 pm
    no, I don’t look at “highlights”. I look at the entire picture.

    He sucked vs every good D he played.

    Dude, don’t compare SEC competition (Cam) vs the terrible Big-10.

    Again, vs USC, Miami, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa… Pryor threw for under 50% completions with more INTs than TDs.

    …………………………………

    His stats were almost the same as Cam Newton’s.

  • The Beeech Dawg

    Huge Lake Show win, now time to get fizzle on some banana daiquiris

    Aw yeah, that’s how Backstreet Boyz represented back in the day

    Brahs, 2 Kewl 4 Skool rehearsal was hella awesome. Although I briefly electrocuted my weiner on the keyboard amp

    Thankfully I was able to soak off the burn in a nearby bottle of Kearns Nectar

    Got some new lyrics coming your way, time to change into your favorite tighty whities and put on your Ray Bans

    This jam is hella tight, like how my weiner fit into that bottle of Kearns Nectar

  • alex7

    you know who’s stats were better than Cam Newton’s?

    Kelly Moore from Boise State. And he went undrafted.

    So yeah, stats…

    Oh wait, maybe we should look at Pryor vs legit defenses instead of his 400 yards vs the Ohio Bobcats.

    No? ok.

  • alex7

    Cam Newton broke SEC passing efficiency records.

    Pryor? uhh, sucked.

    vs and completion %:

    USC 44%
    Wisconsin 38%
    Penn St. 47%
    Arkansas 56%
    Iowa 54%
    Wisconsin 50%
    Miami 44%

    CREAM PUFFS:

    Ohio Bobcats – 75%
    Marshall 68%
    Eastern Michigan (don’t laugh) – 76%
    Indiana – 80%
    Purdue 72%
    Minnesota 81%

    Don’t tell me YOU DON’T NOTICE ANYTHING.

  • Raidah Funk Funk

    Lets face it brahs. I really like the Leinart signing as a back up #2. Granted he went to USC and Pete made him who he is, but this is the NFL and he can mop up if needed. Save TP for the grooming and Leinart for the brooming. CP3 baby!

  • Raidah Funk Funk

    alex7 Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
    you know who’s stats were better than Cam Newton’s?

    Kelly Moore from Boise State. And he went undrafted.

    So yeah, stats…

    Oh wait, maybe we should look at Pryor vs legit defenses instead of his 400 yards vs the Ohio Bobcats.

    No? ok.

    ***************************************************

    Kinda good post, but TP is gonna be groomed slowly and with good NFL coaching, he’ll be good. Leinart is a good signing and he can help with the grooming of TP. One year Leinart at #2. TP be #2 next year. Leinart will be a great mopper upper. Big Reggie knows what he’s doin. Big Reggie doin what Big Reggie gotta do. Get ova it brahs.

  • arkraider

    C

  • dcraiderfan

    From second to dead last for this football season. Not a viable QB in crybaby Palmer or Leinart. What is Spuds thinking? Allen should coaching Terrelle Pryor not holding with Palmer and now Leinart. What the Flip is Mark Davis thinking? This is not going to be pretty this season. What is the best strategy is to let both so called QB fall by the wayside, period. Like Hue Jackson, the the raidernation should take a stand and fire Spuds for a lousy season coming. Rebuilding or not. Call Mark Davis NOW. More viable QBs are out there than these two losers!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Raidernationdave

    #328.

    That was too funny! Huge snicker. They got TP cheap for at least 3 yrs. behind CP3 to learn & grow. He needs to mature. Let’s hope he do fo shizzle homies in da hizzle! Yo!

    Sorry I’m stoned!

  • Raidernationdave

    In a way it makes sense to sign ML since he is familiar with GK & his offense. If I’m not mistaken he played somewhat decent for 2 games last year. Right? So maybe.