Leinart, Sorgi work out for Raiders; Leinart signed — update
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, May 1st, 2012 at 3:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Veteran quarterbacks Jim Sorgi and Matt Leinart worked out for the Raiders in Alameda today. The workouts weren’t open to the media.
Ultimately, the Raiders settled upon Leinart, who played under Raiders new offensive coordinator Greg Knapp with the Houston Texans last season.
The Raiders just confirmed Leinart’s signing in a press release a few minutes ago.
The Raiders confirmed the workouts, but they didn’t provide details such as whether the players attempted passes. This is important in the case of both, given Sorgi hasn’t attempted a pass in a regular-season game since 2008 and Leinart hasn’t attempted a pass since he broke his collarbone last season.
Leinart will compete with Terrelle Pryor and Rhett Bomar for the primary backup spot to Carson Palmer.
Colleague Jerry McDonald trekked to Alameda in hopes of digging out more information. However, he wasn’t permitted access to either player.
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May 1st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I don’t think anybody here is in a position to blame McKenzie for the firing of a scout.
May 1st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Bit slow on the draw here, Corky.
May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I still say let’s Coach Pryor up. Let’s see what Leinart and Sorgi have in store. I’m not sold yet.
May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
KrappyRat, instead of resorting to cut and pasting tired old articles and running and hiding, why don’t we settle this the man’s way?
I’m calling you out, old fool –
ULTIMATE BLOG RAP BATTLE
Lyrical warfare BEEECHAM V KRAPPY
5 Rounds
This Friday in the blog. You and Me, fool.
Are you tough enough to enter my internet hip hop octagon? Probably not,huh
May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I dont think anybody in here is in a position to blame Becker for banning Krappy
May 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
94577z06 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I dont think anybody in here is in a position to blame Becker for banning Krappy
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Ahhh, the sock puppets……..
May 1st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Seriously, what’s with the Sorgi fixation by teams? I’m no Leinart fan, but I can at least remember him pulling some drives out of his butt. Sorgi I swear, for the life of me, I can’t recall an instance of him actually playing in a game. It’s as if this guy gets sniffs off of the soul fact that he was Manning’s backup.
May 1st, 2012 at 3:46 pm
good one !
May 1st, 2012 at 3:51 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I’m calling you out, old fool –
ULTIMATE BLOG RAP BATTLE
Lyrical warfare BEEECHAM V KRAPPY
5 Rounds
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Get a Life, Klown!!!!
May 1st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Pryor will have no problems beating out Lienart. This is the first signing I’m not happy about but considering he’ll be a 3rd string QB, it fine.
May 1st, 2012 at 3:58 pm
KrappyRat, I’ll take that as a simple surrender. Defeated before he even steps in the ring
Sad, sad old fool
Now do as Corkran ordered – Go kick rock rocks, Clown!
CLASSIC
May 1st, 2012 at 3:58 pm
The one thing I took from the live chat was that there’s no way Reggie’s paying a punter $5mil. Of course, he also said that the UDFA punter signing was a non-story, but I can’t imagine Lechler giving up any money at this stage of his career. He’ll probably go to Dallas or some other big market team.
May 1st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I wish he was banned, so we can talk football without the freak show. Seek attention some where else!
May 1st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Also, whoever impersonated Kell was hilarious! Steve’s now calling every fool a Klown before he tells them to go kick rocks.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Beeech,
Let me know when you are ready for a world tour. We have to promote the new album.
Keep up the great work.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
I know they say that a team has a 53 man roster but in reality you can only suit up 46.
Barring an injury to Palmer, Pryor never suits up.
When I draw up a roster consisting of starters and necessary back-ups I see 40 guys and the other six have to contribute on special teams or as specialist in certain sets.
It’s a tough game.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Quarterback-Matt-Leinart-Signs-with-Raiders/51831430-240c-4771-ba69-5f11436412a8
Leinart signed with Raiders.
He played (was on the roster) under Knapp so thats helpful at this stage at least.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
I have complete faith in Reggie.
Go Raiders!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Matty Ice in the hizzy!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Ok Big Reg let’s work on getting Jacoby Jones
May 1st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Beeecham will totally destroy Kell in a rap battle. Kell can only lift other people’s rhymes. The old man don’t got no game.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Raiderjhawk Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Pryor will have no problems beating out Lienart. This is the first signing I’m not happy about but considering he’ll be a 3rd string QB, it fine.
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You honestly believe that if Pryor was anywhere near close to Leinart that they would SIGN Leinart?
Pryor is AT LEAST another full year away from even being a backup…
Haven’t been on here in awhile…hopefully a couple of these draft picks pan out…
WTF…this dude still doing internet rap battles?!?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Man, I don’t like this signing. My only hope besides Obi-Wan Kenobi, is I’m wrong.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Raider O, 2 Kewl 4 Skool has been rehearsing everyday and the choreography is getting hella tight
Although I sprained my left nad yesterday when I did a flying scissor kick into the bass drum
Brah, get with DJ Johnny asap and make sure we’ll have enough weed for 50 US and 120 European dates
We can hide our stash in the back up dancers suitcases and if they get busted, we’ll quickly put on fake moustaches and walk the other way
TAKING THIS JAM UNIVERSAL, SHOUT OUT TO DR DRE
May 1st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Ha…Beechum had to change his name??!?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
When you dropping your first single Beeech Dawg?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
The Texans were reportedly very disappointed by Jacoby Jones. Knapp was the QB coach there. Any reason to necessarily believe he likes Jones? Obviously familiar with him, must have an idea on his value
Leinart had lots of left (throwing) shoulder injuries/offseason surgeries in college, and I believe another early in NFL career. He actually was good as an NFL rookie (like 5-6 years ago) and then many think his Hollywood mentality got the best of him overshadowing his modest ability as an NFL QB. He since has had more injuries to throwing shoulder, latest last year after throwing like 13 passes. I think the free agent rookie took over for him after he got hurt though, not beat him out for 2nd string
May 1st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Colleague Jerry McDonald trekked to Alameda in hopes of digging out more information. However, he wasn’t permitted access to either player.
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But, Jer is just in time for happy hour. Not a wasted trip after all….(;
May 1st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Albert Puss, until you swear off Madden Retard as your Lord & Savior we are still mortal enemies
Oh yeah and the first single for 2K4S called “Bummer Summer” should hit shopping malls and TGI Friday’s sometime this Summer
Hopefully my nad will be fully healed by then
May 1st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Raider J Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Leinart signed with Raiders.
He played (was on the roster) under Knapp so thats helpful at this stage at least.
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All that proves is Leinert know how Knapp takes his coffee.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
*knows
May 1st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Qb1, CP3
QB2, Leinart
QB3, Pryor
I can dig it!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:23 pm
leinart is useless…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
“Yo” Beeech…why did you change the name??
May 1st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Leinart sucks. really.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
ElkG, Beeech changed his name because he was banned when Kell snitched on him to Becker.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Leinart will be the number two and pryor will be the number three …. book it!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Beeech, why can’t we all just get along. You and MR are two pees in a pod. You both add much needed flavor to this blog hole. You’re both hella cool.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
ElkGRaider Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
“Yo” Beeech…why did you change the name??
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Overweight KrappyRat tattletaled on me to Becker for making fun of him and I got banned.
Regrouped over Olive Garden with the Certified Platinum Posse and came back with wicked new handle
That’s just how we roll in 2 Kewl 4 Skool, wizzle
May 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
We could not get a better 2nd than lionet?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Raiders have been clear about this:
1) Gave Pryor a few weeks to show what he’s got as QB;
2) After those weeks, they sent out for Leinart.
3) STILL looking at Sorgi
Pryor is gone.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Thanks Bigelow…blog drama!!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Jacoby Jones anyone?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Wrong…
Veteran quarterbacks Jim Sorgi and Matt Leinart worked out for the Raiders in Alameda today. The workouts weren’t open to the media.
Ultimately, the Raiders settled upon Leinart.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:32 pm
So…Jacoby was officially released…we need to kick some TIRES!!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Beeech, you ever party with Leinart?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:32 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Raiders have been clear about this:
1) Gave Pryor a few weeks to show what he’s got as QB;
2) After those weeks, they sent out for Leinart.
3) STILL looking at Sorgi
Pryor is gone.
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Wrong….You missed the part where it says they settled on Lionet…Try again bruh…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
LMAO Beeech.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Leinart sucks and you fools haven’t even seen Pryor play in the NFL. Who knows what he can do, we know what Leinart can do.
Carson “THE MAD” Bomber
Pryor
Leinart
book it.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Pryor can’t be gone with less than one year in the league at QB…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Can’t wait to get that authentic Nike Leinart Raiders jersey.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Raiders have been clear about this:
1) Gave Pryor a few weeks to show what he’s got as QB;
2) After those weeks, they sent out for Leinart.
3) STILL looking at Sorgi
Pryor is gone.
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We know where you stand… You are giving Pryor no shot, and also want to be right in your convictions…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Pryor is gone huh? They gave Pryor a couple of weeks to show what he’s got huh? Holy crap man come back to planet earth, they’ve had one little mini camp which was more about learning the playbook than practicing. There’s rules in place that say the coaches can’t coach the players right now so when would Pryor have a couple of weeks to show what he’s got. Wow…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Couldnt care less
May 1st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
ElkGRaider:
I’ll bet you money right now that at the end of both of their careers Pryor is in the books as a better QB than Leinart.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Not a huge Leinart fan, hopefully he’s grown up. At the end of the day (stole that from Reggie) it’s an upgrade tho. So, step up Pryor if ya want it…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Pryor is gone huh? They gave Pryor a couple of weeks to show what he’s got huh? Holy crap man come back to planet earth, they’ve had one little mini camp which was more about learning the playbook than practicing. There’s rules in place that say the coaches can’t coach the players right now so when would Pryor have a couple of weeks to show what he’s got. Wow…
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+1
Took the words off my keyboard.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Albert Puss, I’m willing to give you a shot as 2K4S Director of Fan Recruitment to test your loyalty
You job duties involve getting as many credit card #s from our teenage fan’s parents as possible so we can illegally purchase huge amounts of weed
Raider O will be your supervisor, don’t screw this up or I’ll revoke your Kewl Kidz Kard
May 1st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Al Saunders know much more about TPRYOR than anyone on this blog….Question is, if he is not an NFL QB Coach Saunders should have spoken up long ago right?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
I’d rather go into the season with Leinart as the backup then Pryor. If Palmer goes down, Leinart could still win games. Pryor could be a disaster.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Man…all these USC guys…how about fat @ss Lendale White???
May 1st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Reggie came from:
Brett Favre
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn
Allen came from:
Drew Brees then saw Tebow (like Pryor)
You think either of them believe QB’s like Pryor are worth grooming?
I don’t.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I will do my best Beeecham.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
All I know is, if CP goes down with injury I’m going to feel a lot better about having TP come in. At least he can keep things alive and make plays with his feet, it adds a whole new dimension to our team. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if we see some regular packages with Pryor this season. We’ve seen how awesome Leinart is, if he was any better he’d actually stick with a team for more than a few seasons at a time!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Reggie came from:
Brett Favre
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn
Allen came from:
Drew Brees then saw Tebow (like Pryor)
You think either of them believe QB’s like Pryor are worth grooming?
I don’t.
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I appreciate your opinion on TO however, you are neither Reggie, or Allen…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Sorry TP
May 1st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Raiderjhawk Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
ElkGRaider:
I’ll bet you money right now that at the end of both of their careers Pryor is in the books as a better QB than Leinart.
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Maybe. Honestly (Hue!), he is going to have to do A LOT of work. His throwing motion isn’t fluid. Its like he pushes the ball. Also…sure he has great line speed but we need more shiftiness. I wish him the best of luck…hopefully will be great…just is NO WHERE near close to be a starter…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
Report: Benson Hoping To Sign With Raiders #Bengals http://sbn.to/IEvPb3 via @CincyJungle
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I hope so. If DMac gets injured, Benson would be a nice replacement.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Raiderjhawk Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Pryor is gone huh? They gave Pryor a couple of weeks to show what he’s got huh? Holy crap man come back to planet earth, they’ve had one little mini camp which was more about learning the playbook than practicing. There’s rules in place that say the coaches can’t coach the players right now so when would Pryor have a couple of weeks to show what he’s got. Wow…
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You are wasting your time. He is not interested in the facts, he just want to form opinions based on assumptions that are based on nothing.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Let’s just hope CP stays healthy all season, then we won’t have to worry about who’s 2 and who’s 3.
CARSON “THE MAD” BOMBER 2012!! Career season baby!!!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
Report: Benson Hoping To Sign With Raiders #Bengals http://sbn.to/IEvPb3 via @CincyJungle
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I hope so. If DMac gets injured, Benson would be a nice replacement.
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I’m down for that…if its cheap
May 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Someone tell me why we would bring in another RB? I’m kind of excited about Goodson. I remember when both RB’s in Carolina got hurt a few seasons back and that fool was lighting ish up. Lonyae Miller has tons of potential as well.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Interesting on the Live Chat: Rolando is the playa most likley on the Bubble to get cut!
I for one hope he recovers from his injury and legal issues. But the bad news is starting to stack up…
May 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Leinart sucks
May 1st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
How can you work out a QB without having him throw passes?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raiderjhawk Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Someone tell me why we would bring in another RB? I’m kind of excited about Goodson. I remember when both RB’s in Carolina got hurt a few seasons back and that fool was lighting ish up. Lonyae Miller has tons of potential as well.
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Because the RBs on our roster suck, and we need better RBs (using the same logic as some people here use with TP).
May 1st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Thec Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Al Saunders know much more about TPRYOR than anyone on this blog….Question is, if he is not an NFL QB Coach Saunders should have spoken up long ago right?
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You never know what you have until the bullets start flying. Look at Teblow’s. You will see Pryor in the preseason and see how he looks against scrubs. Problem is he might look pretty good against scrubs and no hopers. Then knucklehead Raider fan will be sreaming for him to start against Julius Peppers and Troy Palamalu instead of Carson Palmer.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Beeech Dawg got to be hoppin
while the strippers be poppin
and he be cleanin the toppin
gettin ready for another round of sloppin
WIZZ AND JIZZ IN DA HOUSE
May 1st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Its not far fetched that Leinart can end up with a Gannon-esque career. The fact remains that hes arguably the greatest QB in Trojan history,and one of the greatest college QBs of all time, had a pretty good rookie season and even had a then rookie record 400+ yard passing game, and really just caught bad breaks with management changes and injuries. As it stands, he still has size, accuracy, and football intelligence. Not to mention, hes just 28 (same age as Brandon Weeden).
And now working in his favor, he is finally part of the greatest franchise in the NFL, The Oakland Raiders.
I think its comical for anyone to argue that Pryor is better now, or at anytime before, better than Leinart. I actually am pulling for them both to have dynamite careers. But it is what it is, if the team thought Pryor was ready for #2, we wouldnt even be having this discussion.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Raiderjhawk Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Someone tell me why we would bring in another RB? I’m kind of excited about Goodson. I remember when both RB’s in Carolina got hurt a few seasons back and that fool was lighting ish up. Lonyae Miller has tons of potential as well.
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Goodson has fumblitis. Thats why he did not play in Carolina. He may not make it through preseason.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Then knucklehead Raider fan will be sreaming for him to start against Julius Peppers and Troy Palamalu instead of Carson Palmer.
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hahahahahahaha….Truth….I may be one of them…lol
May 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
No one is sure if Goodson or Jones can carry the load if/when McFadden gets injured. Benson has been a feature back, as has had a couple nice seasons with the Bengals. Also, is more of a power back, which is something the Raiders don’t currently have unless they believe Lonyae Miller can fill that role.
Wouldn’t mind Benson for the vet minimum.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Welcome Matt Leinart.
Good move by Reggie…hope this starts a streak of good moves…
Thats 1
May 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Leinart may be the next Jim Plunket. Who knows?
May 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
One thing for sure is that Pryor has pretty good arm strength. He can really heave those wobblers down field and fairly accurate doing it. If he can learn how to throw a beautiful long spiral like Palmer he has a solid chance.
Pryor has a QB coach this year. Not Hue the self proclaimed QB coach of last season.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
I think its comical for anyone to argue that Pryor is better now, or at anytime before, better than Leinart. I actually am pulling for them both to have dynamite careers. But it is what it is, if the team thought Pryor was ready for #2, we wouldnt even be having this discussion.
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If JaRu woulda come thru or had a good o-line and good play callin, and burners who could get 70 yards down the field, we surely wouldn’t be talkin bout this. JaRu could throw the ball far. Gannon never had this cannon.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Just dont get all the Leinart hate. Hes not Peyton Manning, but damn, hes not Josh McCown either, people.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828cb518/article/matt-leinart-signs-with-oakland-raiders-after-workout?module=HP11_headline_stack
May 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
On Goodson:
“The reality, however, is that Rivera did give Goodson an opportunity: In the first game of the preseason, when Goodson got the ball 10 times. The problem was that Goodson fumbled on two of those 10 touches, and after that Rivera never had faith in him again. Goodson also fumbled six times in the 2010 regular season, so those preseason fumbles weren’t an aberration. Rivera didn’t think he could trust Goodson to hold onto the ball, and that’s why Rivera didn’t want Goodson to carry the ball.”
Raiders need another RB.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Matt gets another chance. The time off and failures will make him better. He comes from a winner USC and knows what it takes. Oh hell yeah!
May 1st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Reggie the man. Code Black.
May 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Alright RaidO, I’m with ya. Bring on Benson for vet min!
May 1st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Matt Leinart’s greatest moment as a pro:
http://www.gossipboulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/02000000113.jpg
May 1st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
@RaidO
Agree that Benson would be a good pickup, but you don’t think Goodson can “learn” to control his fumbling problem, like Tiki Barber and Curtis Martin did?
May 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
17.Raider J Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Quarterback-Matt-Leinart-Signs-with-Raiders/51831430-240c-4771-ba69-5f11436412a8
Leinart signed with Raiders.
He played (was on the roster) under Knapp so thats helpful at this stage at least.
^^^^^^^
As I said before, lets hope Hollywood Leinart doesn’t see the field and Pryor steps it up.
I hope Allen and Knapp realize that when it comes to Pryor or anyother player on the roster, don’t try and force square pegs into round holes!
Utilize the strengths of players on the roster!
May 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Anyone who has seen Goodson run can see he can play. Hes fast, hes physical, and doesnt avoid contact. He actually runs heavy downhill, like DMac, but way shiftier. He just needs to learn how to hold onto the damn ball. I really think he will work out well as Dmacs backup. He just really needs to tuck that ball.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Ban the knuckleheads!
May 1st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Thec Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Then knucklehead Raider fan will be sreaming for him to start against Julius Peppers and Troy Palamalu instead of Carson Palmer.
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hahahahahahaha….Truth….I may be one of them…lol
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Right now no one knows what we have in Pryor. Including Pryor. It will be nice to see him in the preseason. Best thing for him is to sit back and enjoy the show for the next three years and then be ready to play.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Good to see you back Tj. Hope your not upset with the Leinart signing. Big Reggie just doin what Big Reggie gotta do. Pryor got some good mentors on him. Might fire Pryor up. But Big Reggie just doin what Big Reggie gotta do. All in the best interest of the Raidahs.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Big Al would have been down with this move.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:02 pm
43m Jerry McDonald Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
New CBA makes it impossible to accelerate progress of QB like Pryor. No throwing vs. defenses, no contact. Practices are glorified walkthrus
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49m Jerry McDonald Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
Raiders’ Pryor was not legitimate option to be backup, considering he’s essentially in a second rookie year. Got here late, new system, etc
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50m Tim Kawakami Tim Kawakami @timkawakami
Raiders have been clear about this: 1) Gave Pryor a few weeks to show what he’s got as QB; 2) After those weeks, they sent out for Leinart.
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57m Monte Poole Monte Poole @1MontePoole
By signing Leinart, hint from @Raiders to Terrelle Pryor: Can you gain weight and become a TE?
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I’m with Jerry. Pryor should get a chance to compete at QB but he probably can’t do to much to improve himself till training camp.
Before the signing of Leinart, only 2 other QBs on the roster and one of them was oft-arrested-on-alcohol-related-charges Rhett Bomar, 1st year NFL player. Another legitimate, competitive QB was necessary no matter what
At the mini camp, the Raiders could see where Pryor is right now, but that doesn’t equate to what he can become in the future as a QB. Certainly, he needs some competition for the #2 job. We’ll see the pecking order for this year by early September, and have a better idea about the long term future of Pryor as well by then. He’s a very talented QB
May 1st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
84.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Leinart may be the next Jim Plunket. Who knows?
^^^^^^^^
Leinart needs to get his heas out of his azz and grow and be a man and stop acting like he is still the popular QB/guy on campus in college.
Be a pro and step his game up.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
John David Booty Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Just dont get all the Leinart hate. Hes not Peyton Manning, but damn, hes not Josh McCown either, people.
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if Leinart is better than Josh McCown, he needs to prove it
May 1st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
17.Raider J Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Quarterback-Matt-Leinart-Signs-with-Raiders/51831430-240c-4771-ba69-5f11436412a8
Leinart signed with Raiders.
He played (was on the roster) under Knapp so thats helpful at this stage at least.
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As I said before, lets hope Hollywood Leinart doesn’t see the field and Pryor steps it up.
I hope Allen and Knapp realize that when it comes to Pryor or any other player on the roster, that they don’t try and force square pegs into round holes!
Utilize the strengths of players on the roster and make adjustments accordingly.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
@RaidO
Agree that Benson would be a good pickup, but you don’t think Goodson can “learn” to control his fumbling problem, like Tiki Barber and Curtis Martin did?
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No. His fumblitis goes back to his college days.
Texas A&M 2006: “Goodson had problems protecting the football early in the season, fumbling twice in the Aggies opener against The Citadel (Military College).”
May 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Seems like there have been Leinart to the Raider rumors for the last 5 years.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
can someone PLEASE tell me why we did not go after Mark Sanchez and sign him?!?!?!?!? Makes no sense not to procure a bona fide #2 like Sanchez. He belongs in Silver and Black. Not green and white. Hell no. Reggie, trade trade trade for Sanchez, a bona fide #2.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Mouthfull Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
can someone PLEASE tell me why we did not go after Mark Sanchez and sign him?!?!?!?!? Makes no sense not to procure a bona fide #2 like Sanchez. He belongs in Silver and Black. Not green and white. Hell no. Reggie, trade trade trade for Sanchez, a bona fide #2.
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Sanchez should be available soon but he sucks to.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
can someone PLEASE tell me why we did not go after Mark Sanchez and sign him?!?!?!?!? Makes no sense not to procure a bona fide #2 like Sanchez. He belongs in Silver and Black. Not green and white. Hell no. Reggie, trade trade trade for Sanchez, a bona fide #2.
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You do realize that he just signed a contract extension with the Jets?
“A league source told the Daily News that Sanchez would earn $20.5 million in guarantees for 2012 and 2013. The fourth-year quarterback is set to earn $40.5 million over the final three years. The total value of his new-look five-year deal is $58.25 million.
Sanchez was going to be a $14.25 million hit on the cap before the extension. The team freed up $6.4 million in cap space this season, according to a detailed breakdown”
May 1st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
alzadoX Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
John David Booty Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Just dont get all the Leinart hate. Hes not Peyton Manning, but damn, hes not Josh McCown either, people.
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if Leinart is better than Josh McCown, he needs to prove it
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Actually McCown won a few games as a starter before he came here and was booed off the field by Raider fan. And that is more than Leinert has done.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
can someone PLEASE tell me why we did not go after Mark Sanchez and sign him?!?!?!?!? Makes no sense not to procure a bona fide #2 like Sanchez. He belongs in Silver and Black. Not green and white. Hell no. Reggie, trade trade trade for Sanchez, a bona fide #2.
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You do realize that he just signed a contract extension with the Jets?
“A league source told the Daily News that Sanchez would earn $20.5 million in guarantees for 2012 and 2013. The fourth-year quarterback is set to earn $40.5 million over the final three years. The total value of his new-look five-year deal is $58.25 million.
Sanchez was going to be a $14.25 million hit on the cap before the extension. The team freed up $6.4 million in cap space this season, according to a detailed breakdown”
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I guess that is going to make Sanchez the highest paid NFL QB backup ever.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Actually McCown won a few games as a starter before he came here and was booed off the field by Raider fan. And that is more than Leinert has done.
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My favorite story on McCown was when he was on Detroit and they had some receiver injuries, he lobbied the coaches to play receiver…they were not too receptive.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
Didn’t realize the @Raiders signing a backup quarterback in @MattLeinartQB was such a polarizing Twitter issue in regards to @TerrellePryor
Retweeted by Levi Damien
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It’s because all the Davis sycophants want Pryor to be Al’s last great pick.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
My favorite story on McCown was when he was on Detroit and they had some receiver injuries, he lobbied the coaches to play receiver…they were not too receptive.
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LOL, I could see TP doing the same thing if he gets bored riding the pine.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Wow, now Sanchez sucks? I guess theres no middle ground. Either youre Joe Montana or you suck. I’ll take Sanchez and his production over the last few years, over the QB play weve had since Gannon. Hes made some big mistakes, but hes also pulled off some big wins. Hes just now going into his 4th NFL season as a full time starter, and coming off a “poor” season of 3500 yards and 26 TDs. Sanchez is gonna be just fine. Not the best, but he doesnt suck. I actually think hes gonna have a breakout season this year.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Campbell=Leinert
May 1st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Campbell=Leinert
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LOL. No way. Campbell is way better than Leinert
May 1st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Ok lets twist one up and lets welcome the newest Raider
WELCOME TO THE NATION Matt Leinart!!
May 1st, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Leinart will be a better backup than Gradkowski.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
No vote on Benson and and Ryan Grant…
Too slow….
May 1st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
That’s funny how Matt Leinart’s career comes to a full circle in backing up Carson Palmer…just like the Good Ol’ Days!!
May 1st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
When JC got here from Washington he sucked.
played better in his next year tho
May 1st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Rolando isnt going to be cut. Do the math cork.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:30 pm
118. Kermit the frog style yay! (sarcasum…)
May 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm
On the record…Campbell at this point in his career his (hands down) better than Leinart.
You just never know until Palmer goes down…and then Leinart and then, here comes our future (TP) !!
May 1st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Marks hair Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Rolando isnt going to be cut. Do the math cork.
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Hope Rolando plays great, acts great, and sticks around
But mathwise, we can afford a few salary cap acceleration hits a year, especially if it furthers the overall team goals as seen by the new Reggime
To implement a new culture of discipline and accountability, the new staff needs depth and competition at all positions so they can dump or sit players who aren’t getting it done.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
lol Mark
May 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Raiders’ new punter:
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2176803469/image.jpg
May 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
126. No seriously, we literally dont have enough space to cut him.. Its like an extra 8 mill or something.. If we had an extra 8 mill we should have gone after carr.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Raiders new punter is built like Pryor:
https://twitter.com/#!/MarquetteKing/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Finstagr.am%2Fp%2FJSN8svwB6b%2F
May 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
At least once a day I think or say to myself..Fkin alabama…
Misdemeanor..lol
May 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I’ll take Leinert over last year’s horrible backup, Boller any day of the week.
Besides Al loved Leinert out of college as he always loved any QB at USC so his ghost finally watches him in silver and black. Touching story.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Monte Poole @1MontePoole
Among comments sources say were made by Al Davis while firing Art Shell in ‘07: U wanted to draft Huff, we shoulda took Leinart.
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May 1st, 2012 at 5:44 pm
We could use King on fake punts
May 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Funny thing is, most of the people bashing leinart today will be chanting his name the first time Palmer loses a game where he throws a couple of picks.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Al had me sold on Liono, lord of the thundercats.. But he turned out to be such a p¤ssy… Made me look bad for wanting him.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I think there is a real chance that King is going to be the Raider punter, at least in 2013. Lechler is in the final year of his contract and is making 5 million this season. I really doubt Reggie will pay that much to keep him in 2013. I think Lechler may be released, or maybe we will keep 2 punters on the roster this year.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Leinert would’ve been drafted #1 overall by the 40-whinners if he had left college after his junior year in 2005. That was his first questionable decision followed by many more on and off field ones.
I don’t think Leinert was that bad. He was average like Alex Smith and not a star.
But Once a starting QB is benched though they’re ruined for life. Plunkett was an exception like a few other cases but that’s normally the case. It affects their head. Who could forget the great Andrew Walter!
May 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Leinart? Seriously? I’d rather see Bomar or even Boller as backup. Leinart is a punk. Pryor will still be 3rd if not at WR. Here’s hoping Palmer stays healthy all year. So who is out Bomar or Pryor?
May 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
One thing about Liono, he knows that he’s a carreer back up at this point. And he knows to stay in this league, that means working crazy hard & being a great teamate. He has no illusions about his place im sure..
May 1st, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Leinart is much better than Boller, who did not belong in the league last year. He’ll probably be rated as a slightly below-average backup
May 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Dakota Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Funny thing is, most of the people bashing leinart today will be chanting his name the first time Palmer loses a game where he throws a couple of picks.
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No , they will chanting for TP. Depending on the preseason you may be to.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:57 pm
#140:
Yeah where else could he earn a cool million watering a cap backward, get the chicks, save his health, and live in luxury? Only happens as a backup QB in NFL. He knows that. You right.
May 1st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Boller was only kept around to make sure that no one gave JC any challenge to his starting role…
I trust that reggie has ENDED the ‘Scholarship’ era and is looking for competent back ups at every position…let’s see what leinart can do.
Now what about Jacoby Jones Caosh Knapp?
May 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Marks hair Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Al had me sold on Liono, lord of the thundercats.. But he turned out to be such a p¤ssy… Made me look bad for wanting him.
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When Leinart came out of college I was kinda happy we didn’t draft him because I thought he was a lefthanded Chad Pennington–one more arm injury away from a rag-arm. I way overrated Leinart. He wasn’t bad as a rookie 5-6 years ago. Remember AD when he fired Shell, blaming him for talking AD out of drafting Leinart in the previous draft? Then Leinart goes all puzzy…
supposedly learned humility and was primed for a comeback when Schaub went down last year, then Leinart throws 13 passes and gets hurt again
compared to some of the other backup QBs on market, Leinart has some things going for him mainly known commodity to Knapp/ new scheme.
We needed another QB to compete for #2. Lets give Leinart a chance
May 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Boller was only kept around to make sure that no one gave JC any challenge to his starting role…
I trust that reggie has ENDED the ‘Scholarship’ era and is looking for competent back ups at every position…let’s see what leinart can do.
Now what about Jacoby Jones Caosh Knapp?
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Oh please no Jacoby Jones coach Knapp. He sucks ars.
May 1st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
I hope tp shocks the world(mostly) and dominates the camp & preseason, then goes on to be the man. One last score from AL.. One last middle finger.
May 1st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Would rather of had Colt Brennan back than Leinart.
Dude never got a shot in the NFL . Looked like he had some serious potential. Sad
Colt Brennan 1st game vs Colts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeJN4_iKkZQ&feature=related
May 1st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Joker94583 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Leinart? Seriously? I’d rather see Bomar or even Boller as backup. Leinart is a punk. Pryor will still be 3rd if not at WR. Here’s hoping Palmer stays healthy all year. So who is out Bomar or Pryor?
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Bomar. We don’t have a 3rd-rounder invested in him, and Pryor’s a good enough athlete to become a WR (or maybe even a DB) if quarterback doesn’t work out a year down the line.
May 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Dakota Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Funny thing is, most of the people bashing leinart today will be chanting his name the first time Palmer loses a game where he throws a couple of picks.
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Oh, you bet your azz. Amazing number of schmucks show up in here when Palmer throws a pick. Like flies on sh1t.
Not so much at the games. At least not yet. But I don’t put it past some of the goons that show up for games.
May 1st, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Man, I just watched rounds 2-3 on my DVR, those cats took it way to easy on the Pats on espn. The saftey they took in the 2nd round (I believe it was our pick we traded to them) was expected to be a UDFA.
I remember a couple years ago when the Raiders made a similar pick in the 2nd round when we selected Mike Mitchell. BSPN killed us for that pick and talked schit about MM while they were at it, it was classless to say the least.
Fk BSPN!!!
May 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Poor Andrew, my boy was not cut out to be a NFL QB. At least he bought his momma a double wide to live out her days in.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Leinart will be a better backup than Gradkowski.
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Absolutey!!!!!!!!!!
Best post of the year.
get ova it leinart haters.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Leinart, Sorgi work out for Raiders; Leinart signed — update Veteran quarterbacks Jim Sorgi and Matt Leinart worked out for the Raiders in Alameda today. The workouts weren’t open to the media. Ultimately, the Raiders settled upon Leinart, who played under Raiders new offensive coordinator Greg Knapp wit… [...]
May 1st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Some of you need to stay away from the kitchen knives… and tall bridges. I saw Pryor’s first game at OSU in person. Look like the quickest on the field if not the fastest. He has skills, but far from polished. He needs to develop, but with QB roll outs, etc in the new Houston-esque offense, he actually has a better shot at QB than staying a true pocket passer. He probably isn’t ready for back up role, but jeez… he’s been a Raider for 9-10 months and coaching/gm change. Give it some time and another year – summer of 2013 will be the real testing ground if he stays a QB or not at the earliest.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
The Defense lost a few games last year and I predict the opposite will happen this year.
Its all about coach Allen right now.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
KrappyRat, instead of resorting to cut and pasting tired old articles and running and hiding, why don’t we settle this the man’s way?
I’m calling you out, old fool –
ULTIMATE BLOG RAP BATTLE
Lyrical warfare BEEECHAM V KRAPPY
5 Rounds
This Friday in the blog. You and Me, fool.
Are you tough enough to enter my internet hip hop octagon? Probably not,huh
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A blog jam battle between Beeecham and KK? Kell would never agree to it. He’d get KO’d!
Here’s a guy that can’t even plagiarize a good rhyme.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
A backup QB’s job is not to lose a game (like Boller did for us against the Chiefs last season) but instead to manage the team and the game. The backup doesn’t have to make big plays, just cannot commit stupid errors.
Matt Leinart is capable of this type of performance.
The funny thing is, TP might be capable of winning games and making a difference…but most likely he isn’t close to ready just yet.
When we factor in that Leinart knows Knapp’s system and knows Carson extremely well, this is a no brainer decision and I support it fully.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
What’s the big deal with all this Leinart and TP talk, anyway. Leinart is being brought in as an insurance policy backup. Knows the system. Get over it, goobers. Why does it have to be Leinart or TP. We have BOTH! TP needs time!
May 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
Didn’t realize the @Raiders signing a backup quarterback in @MattLeinartQB was such a polarizing Twitter issue in regards to @TerrellePryor
Retweeted by Levi Damien
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Seriously, WTF?! You people amaze me sometimes with your desire to argue trivial BS.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
KK and MR having a tiff? LMAO!
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KoolKell Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
94577z06 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I dont think anybody in here is in a position to blame Becker for banning Krappy
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Ahhh, the sock puppets……..
May 1st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Haven’t Been in here In a while.
Still some of the vets in here.
Oh an MR. Nuthing changes huh
Leinart is going to be a svcbl backup.
If he had to play an take us to the playoffs. I believe he can with a healthy DMAC
The guy is an excellent play action guy.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
137.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I think there is a real chance that King is going to be the Raider punter, at least in 2013. Lechler is in the final year of his contract and is making 5 million this season. I really doubt Reggie will pay that much to keep him in 2013. I think Lechler may be released, or maybe we will keep 2 punters on the roster this year.
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The way the league is going with salary cap concerns etc. does it really make sense to keep a punter at the amount of $ they’re paying Lechler?
He’s great. The best imo, but…he’s a punter.
If you’re trying to be careful with your $ you have to make tuff decisions on where that $$$ is gonna best be spent.
If we’re not signing a top end defensive guy cuz we’re paying so much to our punter…then it’s something u need to think about.
May 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
The punter is here as an extra camp leg
May 1st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
158.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
A backup QB’s job is not to lose a game (like Boller did for us against the Chiefs last season) but instead to manage the team and the game. The backup doesn’t have to make big plays, just cannot commit stupid errors.
Matt Leinart is capable of this type of performance.
The funny thing is, TP might be capable of winning games and making a difference…but most likely he isn’t close to ready just yet.
When we factor in that Leinart knows Knapp’s system and knows Carson extremely well, this is a no brainer decision and I support it fully.
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Sounds like Reggie’s redeeming himself a bit with this move? I know you were a bit down on him for the Kingdon firing.
I’m glad they worked him out before signing him. They must’ve seen that the guy has a little something.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I am just watching his moves closely because no one else seems to want to do it.
Nothing wrong playing the devil’s advocate…
Reggie doesn’t need my approval..or to redeem himself in any way.
I respect that he is doing what he feels is correct, and while I do not agree with every move thus far, I support him.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Post 155, 158. Finally some positive opinions I can agree with.
I am not sure why the Raiders signing of Leinhart is such an indictment on TPryor? Would be a very unwise move by RMac to go into 2012 with basically a 3rd round pick rook as #2. No training camp, no pre-season, not many reps in practice. That’s TP…our 3rd round pick this year, pretty much.
Sign a young vet, a definite plus knowing Knapp’s system, in Leinhart. I have no idea if USC boy will be any good, but he is young enough to have a slight hope he just may redeem himself. I just hope we don’t find out…16 for CP3 please.
Palmer-Leinhart-Pryor. As a Raider fan that is not a bad place to be.
One Nation Baby…
May 1st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
“Palmer-Leinhart-Pryor. As a Raider fan that is not a bad place to be.”
Yup
May 1st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
R8dercain Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
The punter is here as an extra camp leg
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Don’t be surprised if he makes final roster or practice squad. Personally seen King in live action. Young man has a powerful leg and great hang time.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Given the backup qbs, I am glad Reggie drafted an O lineman with his first pick.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
166.
correct.
he will never make all the moves you want him to. i think what he has to work with, he’s doing a great job with.
i think he rolls with confidence because he knows that he’ll actually be here next year and beyond. although having that kind of freedom could potentially be the opposite effect, just like at Hue Jackson.. CP3 was the right move, and he got canned for it(among other reasons i realize)
but i truly believe once he gets more room under the cap to work with, to sign his main players startig with Branch, DMC, V, Ford, etc.. and then bring in some other big acquisitions to piece together the puzzle on defense. it can’t all happen in one off season. what he does in the next few years as a whole is the huge “?”
May 1st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
169.
i hate it, because he’ll end up somewhere else like NE… i’d almost like to hear my odds on that and throw some cash down. they’re always looking for our garbage like with Sterling Moore.. ridiculous..
we just have no choice because of Lechler. which isn’t a bad problem to have…
May 1st, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Matt Leinart’s greatest moment as a pro:
http://www.gossipboulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/02000000113.jpg
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Must’a been one helluva roller coaster ride.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
PS Leinart is capable of doing the job should the unspeakable happen! that is, if that collarbone of his holds up. i do trust him over TP as right of this moment. good signing.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
From what I’ve seen from the GM and HC’s quotes about Pryor, they’re not really optimistic about him being a QB at this point. They don’t come out and say he sucks, but they say that he needs to get better each day and stuff.
On people they think look good, they say he looks good, or he is looking good or anything. They haven’t said anything like that even once. I think they’re pretty skeptical about it themselves at this point.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
yea dave, i’ll take the one on the left, THANK YOU!
May 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I don’t believe that Pryor is the level of QB prospect some on here believe he is, but I think Leinart is merely a tomato can that they are lining up for Pryor to beat.
Makes sense. Really no shot of him beating out Palmer for the #1 gig, so why not bring in some has-beens and let Pryor build up his confidence, beating out a seasoned vet, so to speak.
I like the move. And if Pryor can’t beat out the Matt Leinart’s of the world, than the writing is on the wall as well.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Palmer, Leinart, Pryor…At one time or another each one of these guys was the story of the day.
I don’t think you’ll find a QB trio in the league with more name recognition than the Raiders.
Lets hope it translates to success.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
#169 and 172 If that UDFA can punt similar to Shane then why do we keep SL. SL makes a ton of money for a Punter. Another out of wack contract will be dealt with?
May 1st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Marquette King had the 3rd highest punting average, IN HIS OWN CRAPPY D-II CONFERENCE.
LMFAO at thinking he could even hold a candle to Shane.
His punting average between all BCS leagues (D-1, 2 and 3) was none other than 28th best.
Stellar!!!
May 1st, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Everyone talking about this new punter maybe taking his job.
We will all get a kick out of it, when he finally comes in, in a preseason game, and wobbles a 41 yarder, which was about his career average.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
2013 could be a different story, as Shane will be a FA, and surely he will be asked to take a decent paycut if he wants to stick around.
But his salary and cap figure are guaranteed now for 2012, so he ain’t going anywhere. The Reggie is a smart guy, if he were looking to do something with Shane’s 2012 salary and/or roster spot, if would have been done already.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
JFB,
I dont worry much about Marquette. I worry more that Reggie dont want to employ the highest paid punter in the league. As a former LB, I dont think he views punters the same way as the rest of the roster, just a hunch.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Free agent running back Cedric Benson, who has rushed for more than 1,000 yards in each of the past three seasons, is hoping to play for the Raiders, according to an ESPN report.
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So is Oakland becoming THE cool place to come to now?
Things are changing fast round here.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
I’m happy we signed Leinart. Palmer and Leinart/TP is better than TP/Bomar or TP/Boller. Dont know why everyone is all pissy. Leinart can come in immediately and execute Knapp’s offense in an emergency. That’s right an emergency. Arm strength is overrated for a back up. Look up Kyle Boller.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
So Al gave a Punter a solid contract with Money even before the season began??? No wonder we have not consistently won since 1984! I like SL but he is not Peyton. Wow.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Will Cedric lower his shoulder and get that 1 yd or will he dance like Bush? I dont watch Cedric. Anyone got the scoop on him?
May 1st, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Cederic Bensen isn’t a bad runner. Not great, but good insurance for probably a cheap price. No harm in bringing him in.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
We can’t afford Cedric but gee we have a great Punter!
May 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Don’t think Leinart’s a bad idea. He’s obviously not a great QB, but proven more than TP has. And, in an emergency, he could step in easier.
At least at this point. Let’s see. Maybe TP will light things up and we will cut Leinart. I just think TP has a lot longer learning curve in the NFL than many people here realize.
College doesn’t = success in NFL. Look at the QBs drafter. The winningest College QB and one who broke the single-seaon records were just brought in as undrafted free agents by teams.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
If we’re playing the “Defense First”, and run run run offense that they’re dreaming up, a good punter is key actually, and noone can boom the punts and gain those few extra yards as well as Lechler.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
According to most scouts and talent evaluaters the Punter in SF for one is now better than SL. Like I said if a UDFA is comparable why are we paying SL like 2.5 million to Punt.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
2011
Michael Bush 3.8 ypc.
Cedric Benson 3.9 ypc.
Seems like it wouldn’t be bad move to have a guy like Benson…1,000 yd.+ rusher last 3 seasons as a guy to come in in case McFadden goes down.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
189.1960AutumnWind Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
We can’t afford Cedric but gee we have a great Punter!
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That’s been my point AW.
No disrespect to Lechler but where is the $$$ best spent?
May 1st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Reggie didn’t draft a RB cause he knows he could get a good vet RB at minimum salary. My bet is on Ryan Grant due to common denominators w Reggie but he could also wait for final cuts of other teams. RBs are dime a dozen these days.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
It’s nice to hear about players HOPING to come to Oakland.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
When Guy was our punter he was heads a shoulders above the other Punters. I mean we could play field position and gain 5-10 yards per exchange. Now that great punters are a dime a dozen there is not the premium there anymore. For instance if a UDFA is similar it is a bad investment to pay that kind of money on a punter.
May 1st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Pryor does have a long learning curve…but raw, undenied physical skills. Let him learn as the 3rd QB for a few years and then we can determine if he is an NFL QB. Leinhart knows the system, Knapp must trust him, and he is buds with CP…sounds like a solid backup QB to me.
Now lets worry about the guys who will decide if the Raiders earn W’s on the field in 2012. It’s all about Palmer now.
One Nation Baby…
May 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Cranberry
I have no problem with Leinart as long as he comes here and take sthe agme seriously. His game is limited and he needs to spend as much tim e as possible working on it instead of pretending he’s something he’s not. His armstrength is pitiful and he’s essentially a checkdown QB which is fine as long as you run this system which is geared to his ability.
On the other hand TP is set way back as a result if this system and a coach like Knapp I’m not sure has the wherewithall to utilize his talentsbeyond asking him to check evrything down. TP is a bigplay QB you have to coach him and biuld a system to his talent instead forcing him into this 2yardpassing game. Let him attack the defense more with 6&7 routes as well as 9. He can do the hitch’s and and slants and crosses just fine but allow him to let the offense breath.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I like the move. And if Pryor can’t beat out the Matt Leinart’s of the world, than the writing is on the wall as well.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Just Fire,
When it comes down to it, if TP can’t beat out Leinart, with head to head competition, by the end of this season, well then, maybe he should be dismissed.
I like your analysis
May 1st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I don’t think a UDFA is similar. If you’re punting 7 times a game and gaining an extra 7 yards (maybe more because of hangtime limiting returns) that’s an extra 50 yards.
That means the difference a lot of times between a score or a not score.
And, better kickers, angle their kicks, can pin the defense on the .5 yard line (like last year in the San Diego game before our defense let them march the whole way down the field).
Obviously if we have a crap “D” they can march as far as they want, but if it builds up a lot it’ll be beneficial to have the best punter in the business.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:06 pm
TP’s strength is the 8 route and 7 as well as 9. The WCO rarely uses those routes that’s why I hate they fired Hue he would’ve made a star out of TP.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
priesttj Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Cranberry
I have no problem with Leinart as long as he comes here and take sthe agme seriously. His game is limited and he needs to spend as much tim e as possible working on it instead of pretending he’s something he’s not. His armstrength is pitiful and he’s essentially a checkdown QB which is fine as long as you run this system which is geared to his ability.
On the other hand TP is set way back as a result if this system and a coach like Knapp I’m not sure has the wherewithall to utilize his talentsbeyond asking him to check evrything down. TP is a bigplay QB you have to coach him and biuld a system to his talent instead forcing him into this 2yardpassing game. Let him attack the defense more with 6&7 routes as well as 9. He can do the hitch’s and and slants and crosses just fine but allow him to let the offense breath.
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I think a combination of not catering to Pryor’s abilities, and the fact that he probably needs a lot of work to get to a point of playing are both against him.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Knapp seems very fixed in the type of offense he runs, and doesn’t sway from it even if the talent around him has other strengths.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:07 pm
This is a “show & prove” year. It seems to me that Reggie Mac is giving Leinart and many others the opportunity to compete for jobs. If Matt can’t secure a #2 QB spot when he has the advantage of experience with the OC then he is a bust that must go. If he earns the spot then hopefully we will only see him play during blowouts. If he has to play then the running game and defense need to takeover. 3-4 healthy seasons for CP will make #2 QB discussions pointless. By then, Matt will either be ready or gone and Pryor will either be ready or have switched positions.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Look you guys are wasting your time with this can he beat out Leinart it’s not a matter of beating out Leinart. It’s bigger than that Leinart is nothing (NON-ISSUE) It’s about developing this kid as quickly as possible. Leinart is an afterthought.Fart!!
May 1st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
with a name like 1960AutumnWind, you should know that Punters are the Raiders forte. Lechler gives you the luxury of getting out of bad positions on the field and gives a hopefully upgraded defense a LONG field to work with everytime.. of course he’s not worth the money, but Reggie won’t dump him(nor would any GM in the league), and Shane knows that.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Raider J,
if we’re handing teams their azzes this upcoming year with the rough schedule, then mission accomplished in one off season for this team. that means things are truly coming together. i’m a very happy Raider fan at that point.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Don’t understand the argument. A team should keep 3 QB’s. Leinhart and Pryor battle for #2 and the loser is #3. Either way I am pleased with the set of QB’s the Raider’s have for this year. All of these guys have potential for greatness that has surfaced at some point in their careers. It’s up to DA and RMac to get it back out of one of them.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:18 pm
about TP, that’s exactly right Priest. he is being GROOMED for the FUTURE. just what Al had in mind.
i swear he could already run an offense like teboner and the donko’s did last year(should napalmer go down) with an option 3 style attack, and MURDER teams all day long!
especially since a gameplan like that would help keep DMC healthy, and the guy would not have to assume the complete workload with Carson out!
just in a worst case scenario situation.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Look they needed someone cheap who knew the WCO in case Palmer goes down so they brought this guy with a 1 year contract for no money. He’s insurance from the disaster we experienced last year. They don’t know how long it will take TP to learn that offense. They hope they don’t need Leinart beyond this year…………period
May 1st, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Exraided You’re so right people are jumping to way to many conclusions with this Leinart singing all he is is disaster insurance…………..period
May 1st, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I mean, a playbook filled with booklegs will help TP along in using those athletic skills, can everyone at least agree to that?
May 1st, 2012 at 9:23 pm
disaster insurance is something we did not have last year … until we give up a 1st round pick, that is.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:27 pm
182
True dat
Lechler will be here for his career. No doubt.
It it doesn’t hurt to take a perk at what else is out there
Plus it gives lech some Competition.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I owned the chat…
May 1st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Pryor has a LONG way to go. Under-developed clay.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:34 pm
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Yo, whether it’s the playoffs or pleasuring your dode, you gots to finish
Will be rehearsing tonight with 2 Kewl 4 Skool, got some hot new choreography we’ll be trying out. My patent move the Jupiterwalk (the Moonwalk is for gay dweebs) is hella sweet
It’s where I backstep slide right into a hot tub and a cheesesteak magically falls into my mouth
THAT’S JUST HOW WE DO
May 1st, 2012 at 9:37 pm
priesttj Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Look they needed someone cheap who knew the WCO in case Palmer goes down so they brought this guy with a 1 year contract for no money. He’s insurance from the disaster we experienced last year. They don’t know how long it will take TP to learn that offense. They hope they don’t need Leinart beyond this year…………
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You know Raider Nation is freaking the f*** out when Priest has to be the voice of reason.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Currently we lack a 1/2 punch that DMAC and Bush provided. Now it seems we are scraping around trying to find a replacement for Bush which isn’t as easy as many Posters claimed in here before Bush was released.
Think of the potential of Pryor being the #2 punch to DMC if for some reason CP goes down early this season.
If Pryor can’t beat out Leinart, then what good is he?
Reggie and DA should coach up our excellent prospect TP, so he can take the 2nd spot.
For some reason, Corky, believes Pryor will never make it in the NFL; he said it again in the live chat today. The problem is that Corky engages conclusory allegations and not facts, same as his prediction that the Bolts would lay down for us.
Where is your proof Cork, and on what facts are you basing your conclusory allegations ?? I base my opinion on facts: Pryor has great highlight reels, throwing and running, similiar stats to Cam Newton, and won two collegiate championships.
Corky is not alone in stating his opinion with no proof; many posters do the same thing in here.
At least give TP plenty of quality time in the preseason. I doubt CP needs that many reps to get tuned up: give the show to TP, especially when the game is on the line.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:47 pm
the reason many of us believe Pryor will never make it in the NFL is that…
he’s a terrible passer.
The end. If you struggle with accuracy vs good teams in college, you tend to really struggle with it in the NFL.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
It will be very interesting to see how Pryor competes vs. Leinart. Leinart has shown me nothing in his career.
May 1st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
220.
good call. Benson or Grant could be good options. Benson is too much $ and Grant would cost less, but is an injury waiting to happen. we can’t have both.
all the same, i’d want to roll with 4 RB’s starting out the season if i were BigMac. with an emphasis on the running game in the Knapp show, it’s necessary… not to mention DMC will more than likely go down at some point, so picture it as having 3 other options when our star sits on IR … here’s hoping i’m wrong!
May 1st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
the Pryor vs. Leinart competition will be most likely the most exciting one in training camp. it will very much paint a picture of where Pryor is at, and show that Matt has the ability to start for an offense in a pinch. if i remember correctly, he was playing well before going down last year, am i wrong?
May 1st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
221. that’s debatable. the accuracy is there, go watch his main highlights.
it’s the consistency of his arm and his ability to read defenses that could doom him in the end if he doesn’t hunker down and bust is AZZ to learn it for the next couple of years.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
they’re highlights. Of course he looks good in his highlights. That’s why they’re called highlights.
Look at his games vs USC, Miami, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
He was at 50% passing with more INTs than TDs.
Terrible. I don’t care what he did vs Indiana and the Ohio Bobcats.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:17 pm
That kid RB from Fresno, Miller, looks like hez gots skiulz…
May 1st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
So Leinart’s here to replace TP and Marquette King’s here to replace Lechler? lol…bunch of geniuses in here.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Plus it gives lech some Competition.
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King competition for SL? LMAO!
King is Lechler’s personal water boy.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:25 pm
221.alex7 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 9:47 pm
the reason many of us believe Pryor will never make it in the NFL is that…
he’s a terrible passer.
The end. If you struggle with accuracy vs good teams in college, you tend to really struggle with it in the NFL.
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Pryor’s stats were almost as good as Cam Newton’s.
And he seems to have a very good ability to throw on the run. Click on the link….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulYKdokw48
May 1st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Why is everyone freaking out about Leinart? The only reason he was brought in is because of his familiarity with Knapp’s playbook. Which is also why they went with him over Sorgi. Well, that and the fact that no one knows exactly what Sorgi can and can’t do because of his limited playing time.
Besides those two, who else was out there that were without a doubt a much better option?
Another reason Leinart might’ve been brought in is as a camp arm. This whole Pryor is out idea doesn’t really make sense. I don’t see the point in letting Pryor go now when really, he has not even had a chance to show what he can do.
The Raiders will probably go all the way to the final preseason game before naming the #2 QB. That is unless either Leinart or Pryor do something beyond what is expected of them early on and lock down the spot.
If you think about it, Leinart and Pryor are two different types of QBs. In the WCO you need a mobile QB that can get outside the pocket and create plays when the original play breaks down. Aside from bootlegs and roll outs. I would think Pryor fits this mold better than Leinart. Last I remember Leinart was not a very mobile QB. But than again, neither is Palmer, so what do I know….lol
What I am really worried about is how is Knapp going to use all the talent around him. Say what you want about Hue, but he used his weapons. Maybe not in the best way sometimes, but he did use them. Knapp on the other side strikes me of a more conservative playcaller. He is the one I am really interested on seeing how he is going to do. A bit worried too. Never liked the idea of bringing him back. But then again, maybe Allen will crack the whip on him and Saunders will help out with the gameplanning a bit and do some of the stuff that worked from last year…
May 1st, 2012 at 10:38 pm
no, I don’t look at “highlights”. I look at the entire picture.
He sucked vs every good D he played.
Dude, don’t compare SEC competition (Cam) vs the terrible Big-10.
Again, vs USC, Miami, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa… Pryor threw for under 50% completions with more INTs than TDs.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Leinart’s not here to “replace” Pryor.
Pryor was and continues to be a 3rd string “QB”.
Leinart was and continues to be a 2nd string backup.
Leinart replaces Boller.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
232.alex7 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 10:38 pm
no, I don’t look at “highlights”. I look at the entire picture.
He sucked vs every good D he played.
Dude, don’t compare SEC competition (Cam) vs the terrible Big-10.
Again, vs USC, Miami, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa… Pryor threw for under 50% completions with more INTs than TDs.
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His stats were almost the same as Cam Newton’s.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Huge Lake Show win, now time to get fizzle on some banana daiquiris
Aw yeah, that’s how Backstreet Boyz represented back in the day
Brahs, 2 Kewl 4 Skool rehearsal was hella awesome. Although I briefly electrocuted my weiner on the keyboard amp
Thankfully I was able to soak off the burn in a nearby bottle of Kearns Nectar
Got some new lyrics coming your way, time to change into your favorite tighty whities and put on your Ray Bans
This jam is hella tight, like how my weiner fit into that bottle of Kearns Nectar
May 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
you know who’s stats were better than Cam Newton’s?
Kelly Moore from Boise State. And he went undrafted.
So yeah, stats…
Oh wait, maybe we should look at Pryor vs legit defenses instead of his 400 yards vs the Ohio Bobcats.
No? ok.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Cam Newton broke SEC passing efficiency records.
Pryor? uhh, sucked.
vs and completion %:
USC 44%
Wisconsin 38%
Penn St. 47%
Arkansas 56%
Iowa 54%
Wisconsin 50%
Miami 44%
CREAM PUFFS:
Ohio Bobcats – 75%
Marshall 68%
Eastern Michigan (don’t laugh) – 76%
Indiana – 80%
Purdue 72%
Minnesota 81%
Don’t tell me YOU DON’T NOTICE ANYTHING.
May 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Lets face it brahs. I really like the Leinart signing as a back up #2. Granted he went to USC and Pete made him who he is, but this is the NFL and he can mop up if needed. Save TP for the grooming and Leinart for the brooming. CP3 baby!
May 1st, 2012 at 11:01 pm
alex7 Says:
May 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
you know who’s stats were better than Cam Newton’s?
Kelly Moore from Boise State. And he went undrafted.
So yeah, stats…
Oh wait, maybe we should look at Pryor vs legit defenses instead of his 400 yards vs the Ohio Bobcats.
No? ok.
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Kinda good post, but TP is gonna be groomed slowly and with good NFL coaching, he’ll be good. Leinart is a good signing and he can help with the grooming of TP. One year Leinart at #2. TP be #2 next year. Leinart will be a great mopper upper. Big Reggie knows what he’s doin. Big Reggie doin what Big Reggie gotta do. Get ova it brahs.
May 1st, 2012 at 11:03 pm
C
May 1st, 2012 at 11:27 pm
From second to dead last for this football season. Not a viable QB in crybaby Palmer or Leinart. What is Spuds thinking? Allen should coaching Terrelle Pryor not holding with Palmer and now Leinart. What the Flip is Mark Davis thinking? This is not going to be pretty this season. What is the best strategy is to let both so called QB fall by the wayside, period. Like Hue Jackson, the the raidernation should take a stand and fire Spuds for a lousy season coming. Rebuilding or not. Call Mark Davis NOW. More viable QBs are out there than these two losers!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 1st, 2012 at 11:32 pm
#328.
That was too funny! Huge snicker. They got TP cheap for at least 3 yrs. behind CP3 to learn & grow. He needs to mature. Let’s hope he do fo shizzle homies in da hizzle! Yo!
Sorry I’m stoned!
May 1st, 2012 at 11:46 pm
In a way it makes sense to sign ML since he is familiar with GK & his offense. If I’m not mistaken he played somewhat decent for 2 games last year. Right? So maybe.