Leinart, Sorgi work out for Raiders; Leinart signed — update


Veteran quarterbacks Jim Sorgi and Matt Leinart worked out for the Raiders in Alameda today. The workouts weren’t open to the media.
Ultimately, the Raiders settled upon Leinart, who played under Raiders new offensive coordinator Greg Knapp with the Houston Texans last season.
The Raiders just confirmed Leinart’s signing in a press release a few minutes ago.
The Raiders confirmed the workouts, but they didn’t provide details such as whether the players attempted passes. This is important in the case of both, given Sorgi hasn’t attempted a pass in a regular-season game since 2008 and Leinart hasn’t attempted a pass since he broke his collarbone last season.
Leinart will compete with Terrelle Pryor and Rhett Bomar for the primary backup spot to Carson Palmer.
Colleague Jerry McDonald trekked to Alameda in hopes of digging out more information. However, he wasn’t permitted access to either player.


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  • realtruraider

    Man, I just watched rounds 2-3 on my DVR, those cats took it way to easy on the Pats on espn. The saftey they took in the 2nd round (I believe it was our pick we traded to them) was expected to be a UDFA.

    I remember a couple years ago when the Raiders made a similar pick in the 2nd round when we selected Mike Mitchell. BSPN killed us for that pick and talked schit about MM while they were at it, it was classless to say the least.

    Fk BSPN!!!

  • Plunketthead

    Poor Andrew, my boy was not cut out to be a NFL QB. At least he bought his momma a double wide to live out her days in.

  • Raidah Funk Funk

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    Leinart will be a better backup than Gradkowski.



    Best post of the year.

    get ova it leinart haters.

  • Bobby Bushay

    Some of you need to stay away from the kitchen knives… and tall bridges. I saw Pryor’s first game at OSU in person. Look like the quickest on the field if not the fastest. He has skills, but far from polished. He needs to develop, but with QB roll outs, etc in the new Houston-esque offense, he actually has a better shot at QB than staying a true pocket passer. He probably isn’t ready for back up role, but jeez… he’s been a Raider for 9-10 months and coaching/gm change. Give it some time and another year – summer of 2013 will be the real testing ground if he stays a QB or not at the earliest.

  • Plunketthead

    The Defense lost a few games last year and I predict the opposite will happen this year.

    Its all about coach Allen right now.

  • Bad News Dude

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    KrappyRat, instead of resorting to cut and pasting tired old articles and running and hiding, why don’t we settle this the man’s way?

    I’m calling you out, old fool –

    Lyrical warfare BEEECHAM V KRAPPY
    5 Rounds

    This Friday in the blog. You and Me, fool.

    Are you tough enough to enter my internet hip hop octagon? Probably not,huh


    A blog jam battle between Beeecham and KK? Kell would never agree to it. He’d get KO’d!

    Here’s a guy that can’t even plagiarize a good rhyme.

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    A backup QB’s job is not to lose a game (like Boller did for us against the Chiefs last season) but instead to manage the team and the game. The backup doesn’t have to make big plays, just cannot commit stupid errors.

    Matt Leinart is capable of this type of performance.

    The funny thing is, TP might be capable of winning games and making a difference…but most likely he isn’t close to ready just yet.

    When we factor in that Leinart knows Knapp’s system and knows Carson extremely well, this is a no brainer decision and I support it fully.

  • Bad News Dude

    What’s the big deal with all this Leinart and TP talk, anyway. Leinart is being brought in as an insurance policy backup. Knows the system. Get over it, goobers. Why does it have to be Leinart or TP. We have BOTH! TP needs time!

  • Bad News Dude

    Paul Gutierrez ‏ @PGutierrezCSN

    Didn’t realize the @Raiders signing a backup quarterback in @MattLeinartQB was such a polarizing Twitter issue in regards to @TerrellePryor
    Retweeted by Levi Damien


    Seriously, WTF?! You people amaze me sometimes with your desire to argue trivial BS.

  • Bad News Dude

    KK and MR having a tiff? LMAO!


    KoolKell Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    94577z06 Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    I dont think anybody in here is in a position to blame Becker for banning Krappy
    Ahhh, the sock puppets……..

  • Haven’t Been in here In a while.
    Still some of the vets in here.
    Oh an MR. Nuthing changes huh

    Leinart is going to be a svcbl backup.
    If he had to play an take us to the playoffs. I believe he can with a healthy DMAC
    The guy is an excellent play action guy.

  • DJ Johnny

    137.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    I think there is a real chance that King is going to be the Raider punter, at least in 2013. Lechler is in the final year of his contract and is making 5 million this season. I really doubt Reggie will pay that much to keep him in 2013. I think Lechler may be released, or maybe we will keep 2 punters on the roster this year.

    The way the league is going with salary cap concerns etc. does it really make sense to keep a punter at the amount of $ they’re paying Lechler?

    He’s great. The best imo, but…he’s a punter.

    If you’re trying to be careful with your $ you have to make tuff decisions on where that $$$ is gonna best be spent.

    If we’re not signing a top end defensive guy cuz we’re paying so much to our punter…then it’s something u need to think about.

  • The punter is here as an extra camp leg

  • DJ Johnny

    158.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    A backup QB’s job is not to lose a game (like Boller did for us against the Chiefs last season) but instead to manage the team and the game. The backup doesn’t have to make big plays, just cannot commit stupid errors.

    Matt Leinart is capable of this type of performance.

    The funny thing is, TP might be capable of winning games and making a difference…but most likely he isn’t close to ready just yet.

    When we factor in that Leinart knows Knapp’s system and knows Carson extremely well, this is a no brainer decision and I support it fully.

    Sounds like Reggie’s redeeming himself a bit with this move? I know you were a bit down on him for the Kingdon firing.

    I’m glad they worked him out before signing him. They must’ve seen that the guy has a little something.

  • backstageatapuppetshow

    I am just watching his moves closely because no one else seems to want to do it.

    Nothing wrong playing the devil’s advocate…

    Reggie doesn’t need my approval..or to redeem himself in any way.

    I respect that he is doing what he feels is correct, and while I do not agree with every move thus far, I support him.

  • Raidervill

    Post 155, 158. Finally some positive opinions I can agree with.

    I am not sure why the Raiders signing of Leinhart is such an indictment on TPryor? Would be a very unwise move by RMac to go into 2012 with basically a 3rd round pick rook as #2. No training camp, no pre-season, not many reps in practice. That’s TP…our 3rd round pick this year, pretty much.

    Sign a young vet, a definite plus knowing Knapp’s system, in Leinhart. I have no idea if USC boy will be any good, but he is young enough to have a slight hope he just may redeem himself. I just hope we don’t find out…16 for CP3 please.

    Palmer-Leinhart-Pryor. As a Raider fan that is not a bad place to be.

    One Nation Baby…

  • morilla

    “Palmer-Leinhart-Pryor. As a Raider fan that is not a bad place to be.”


  • downsouthraider

    R8dercain Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    The punter is here as an extra camp leg
    Don’t be surprised if he makes final roster or practice squad. Personally seen King in live action. Young man has a powerful leg and great hang time.

  • Kirk

    Given the backup qbs, I am glad Reggie drafted an O lineman with his first pick.

  • xraided



    he will never make all the moves you want him to. i think what he has to work with, he’s doing a great job with.

    i think he rolls with confidence because he knows that he’ll actually be here next year and beyond. although having that kind of freedom could potentially be the opposite effect, just like at Hue Jackson.. CP3 was the right move, and he got canned for it(among other reasons i realize)

    but i truly believe once he gets more room under the cap to work with, to sign his main players startig with Branch, DMC, V, Ford, etc.. and then bring in some other big acquisitions to piece together the puzzle on defense. it can’t all happen in one off season. what he does in the next few years as a whole is the huge “?”

  • xraided


    i hate it, because he’ll end up somewhere else like NE… i’d almost like to hear my odds on that and throw some cash down. they’re always looking for our garbage like with Sterling Moore.. ridiculous..

    we just have no choice because of Lechler. which isn’t a bad problem to have…

  • Raidernationdave

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Matt Leinart’s greatest moment as a pro:


    Must’a been one helluva roller coaster ride.

  • xraided

    PS Leinart is capable of doing the job should the unspeakable happen! that is, if that collarbone of his holds up. i do trust him over TP as right of this moment. good signing.

  • raiderzmaverick

    From what I’ve seen from the GM and HC’s quotes about Pryor, they’re not really optimistic about him being a QB at this point. They don’t come out and say he sucks, but they say that he needs to get better each day and stuff.
    On people they think look good, they say he looks good, or he is looking good or anything. They haven’t said anything like that even once. I think they’re pretty skeptical about it themselves at this point.

  • xraided

    yea dave, i’ll take the one on the left, THANK YOU!

  • Just Fire Baby

    I don’t believe that Pryor is the level of QB prospect some on here believe he is, but I think Leinart is merely a tomato can that they are lining up for Pryor to beat.

    Makes sense. Really no shot of him beating out Palmer for the #1 gig, so why not bring in some has-beens and let Pryor build up his confidence, beating out a seasoned vet, so to speak.

    I like the move. And if Pryor can’t beat out the Matt Leinart’s of the world, than the writing is on the wall as well.

  • DJ Johnny

    Palmer, Leinart, Pryor…At one time or another each one of these guys was the story of the day.

    I don’t think you’ll find a QB trio in the league with more name recognition than the Raiders.

    Lets hope it translates to success.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    #169 and 172 If that UDFA can punt similar to Shane then why do we keep SL. SL makes a ton of money for a Punter. Another out of wack contract will be dealt with?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Marquette King had the 3rd highest punting average, IN HIS OWN CRAPPY D-II CONFERENCE.

    LMFAO at thinking he could even hold a candle to Shane.

    His punting average between all BCS leagues (D-1, 2 and 3) was none other than 28th best.


  • Just Fire Baby

    Everyone talking about this new punter maybe taking his job.

    We will all get a kick out of it, when he finally comes in, in a preseason game, and wobbles a 41 yarder, which was about his career average.

  • Just Fire Baby

    2013 could be a different story, as Shane will be a FA, and surely he will be asked to take a decent paycut if he wants to stick around.

    But his salary and cap figure are guaranteed now for 2012, so he ain’t going anywhere. The Reggie is a smart guy, if he were looking to do something with Shane’s 2012 salary and/or roster spot, if would have been done already.

  • aig-raiders


    I dont worry much about Marquette. I worry more that Reggie dont want to employ the highest paid punter in the league. As a former LB, I dont think he views punters the same way as the rest of the roster, just a hunch.

  • DJ Johnny

    Free agent running back Cedric Benson, who has rushed for more than 1,000 yards in each of the past three seasons, is hoping to play for the Raiders, according to an ESPN report.

    So is Oakland becoming THE cool place to come to now?

    Things are changing fast round here.

  • aig-raiders

    I’m happy we signed Leinart. Palmer and Leinart/TP is better than TP/Bomar or TP/Boller. Dont know why everyone is all pissy. Leinart can come in immediately and execute Knapp’s offense in an emergency. That’s right an emergency. Arm strength is overrated for a back up. Look up Kyle Boller.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    So Al gave a Punter a solid contract with Money even before the season began??? No wonder we have not consistently won since 1984! I like SL but he is not Peyton. Wow.

  • aig-raiders

    Will Cedric lower his shoulder and get that 1 yd or will he dance like Bush? I dont watch Cedric. Anyone got the scoop on him?

  • raiderzmaverick

    Cederic Bensen isn’t a bad runner. Not great, but good insurance for probably a cheap price. No harm in bringing him in.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    We can’t afford Cedric but gee we have a great Punter!

  • raiderzmaverick

    Don’t think Leinart’s a bad idea. He’s obviously not a great QB, but proven more than TP has. And, in an emergency, he could step in easier.
    At least at this point. Let’s see. Maybe TP will light things up and we will cut Leinart. I just think TP has a lot longer learning curve in the NFL than many people here realize.
    College doesn’t = success in NFL. Look at the QBs drafter. The winningest College QB and one who broke the single-seaon records were just brought in as undrafted free agents by teams.

  • raiderzmaverick

    If we’re playing the “Defense First”, and run run run offense that they’re dreaming up, a good punter is key actually, and noone can boom the punts and gain those few extra yards as well as Lechler.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    According to most scouts and talent evaluaters the Punter in SF for one is now better than SL. Like I said if a UDFA is comparable why are we paying SL like 2.5 million to Punt.

  • DJ Johnny


    Michael Bush 3.8 ypc.

    Cedric Benson 3.9 ypc.

    Seems like it wouldn’t be bad move to have a guy like Benson…1,000 yd.+ rusher last 3 seasons as a guy to come in in case McFadden goes down.

  • DJ Johnny

    189.1960AutumnWind Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    We can’t afford Cedric but gee we have a great Punter!

    That’s been my point AW.

    No disrespect to Lechler but where is the $$$ best spent?

  • UCLA Raiders

    Reggie didn’t draft a RB cause he knows he could get a good vet RB at minimum salary. My bet is on Ryan Grant due to common denominators w Reggie but he could also wait for final cuts of other teams. RBs are dime a dozen these days.

  • DJ Johnny

    It’s nice to hear about players HOPING to come to Oakland.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    When Guy was our punter he was heads a shoulders above the other Punters. I mean we could play field position and gain 5-10 yards per exchange. Now that great punters are a dime a dozen there is not the premium there anymore. For instance if a UDFA is similar it is a bad investment to pay that kind of money on a punter.

  • Raidervill

    Pryor does have a long learning curve…but raw, undenied physical skills. Let him learn as the 3rd QB for a few years and then we can determine if he is an NFL QB. Leinhart knows the system, Knapp must trust him, and he is buds with CP…sounds like a solid backup QB to me.

    Now lets worry about the guys who will decide if the Raiders earn W’s on the field in 2012. It’s all about Palmer now.

    One Nation Baby…

  • priesttj


    I have no problem with Leinart as long as he comes here and take sthe agme seriously. His game is limited and he needs to spend as much tim e as possible working on it instead of pretending he’s something he’s not. His armstrength is pitiful and he’s essentially a checkdown QB which is fine as long as you run this system which is geared to his ability.

    On the other hand TP is set way back as a result if this system and a coach like Knapp I’m not sure has the wherewithall to utilize his talentsbeyond asking him to check evrything down. TP is a bigplay QB you have to coach him and biuld a system to his talent instead forcing him into this 2yardpassing game. Let him attack the defense more with 6&7 routes as well as 9. He can do the hitch’s and and slants and crosses just fine but allow him to let the offense breath.

  • Hardline

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 1st, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    I like the move. And if Pryor can’t beat out the Matt Leinart’s of the world, than the writing is on the wall as well.

    Just Fire,

    When it comes down to it, if TP can’t beat out Leinart, with head to head competition, by the end of this season, well then, maybe he should be dismissed.

    I like your analysis

  • raiderzmaverick

    I don’t think a UDFA is similar. If you’re punting 7 times a game and gaining an extra 7 yards (maybe more because of hangtime limiting returns) that’s an extra 50 yards.
    That means the difference a lot of times between a score or a not score.
    And, better kickers, angle their kicks, can pin the defense on the .5 yard line (like last year in the San Diego game before our defense let them march the whole way down the field).
    Obviously if we have a crap “D” they can march as far as they want, but if it builds up a lot it’ll be beneficial to have the best punter in the business.